May 2, 2023 — University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:01] Are they? Recording. hey? There. please. Okay. it is at 40'clock. Welcome to the camping meeting. It's Tuesday. May Second. 2023, and I will call role Daryl: the Board present French Bush. Ted Rockwell, and Andrew Schumer and I will turn the meeting over to our chair for procedural Okay for the March seventh meeting minutes to anyone have any changes that they would to propose to the minutes. Oh, okay. my second. All in favor.

[1:04] right. Got it. Next thing on the agenda is elections. or this year's chair and vice chair, so I might chime in, since we are on the same slate of commissioners right now, since we did not get anybody appointed, so we can continue with the existing slate. If that's the direction you'd like to go and wait and see if we get some new commissioners through an upcoming recruitment cycle, and then do elections after that. Or if you'd like to do. actually gonna share all your tired of running meetings we can. I mean, I think we can leave it until we have.

[2:01] if that's what people want to do, unless what if you would prefer to be chair. I'm fine leaving it as is, I've no desire to necessarily step into that right now, if that people are okay with you. Alright. So we're going to be support for now as it so yeah. Oh, well, not 2 elections. So just to clarify really meeting them in August we would end up with potentially new membership on the the Commission. And at that point we then need to. Yeah. let's see. I when I mentioned that Robin left did mentioned to me when I saw her recently, that she was interested in coming back on the commission.

[3:04] I told her it possible that the applications would be opening. Do we have a date yet doing a job at them? We'll talk about okay, that's right. I can see that. Okay, great alright. any topics from the consent agenda and anyone. And let's wait real quick. Can we go to attendees and see if there are any numbers of the public. Okay. Okay, great. But I think Okay. So move on. Okay. Anyone with any any feedback on the consent agenda, anything that needs to be discussed. Okay, anything on the fund. Financials.

[4:08] Okay. And, Jake, you're up next with the hill boulder. Update. Thanks for getting that update to us. Thank you. Yeah, Thank you, Lisa for sending that along, and everybody hear me. All right. I'm going to share my screen. All right. Is that showing up? Yes. Okay. So a couple of updates. I wanna highlight a couple of new businesses. We've got one called Dundon box, which is Korean Street food, and that's where Gaku Ramen used to be, or Scrooge Mackey I mean prime nutrition opened up in the spot where Sherry's soda shop was.

[5:05] and then I really want to highlight this business, Alice, and rose that's coming into the in his free spot. Still. Tbd: on when exactly it's opening. But you can, if you google it, the there's photos from the designer online, and the interior is incredible. It's this kind of like Alison Wonderland inspired luxury, champagne, Bar. Really cool looking. I if it you know, I hope it works out for them, and if it does, this would be an addition to the hills kind of more high end offerings which is really good. That's something we're lacking. It's really Che: I took a peek inside it's really all the furniture is in, and it looks like the food service area. It's been updated. Yeah, yeah, the furniture is amazing. They've got these incredible, like chandeliers that are like a the silhouette of a human body that forms the chandelier

[6:03] really cool stuff. and then the ginger pig still still on its way. Don't don't have an update on when that's coming in, but that's next to insomnia cookies. The building is almost finished, being painted with this pretty bright blue. It brings a nice pop to the hill with right next to Allison Rose being repainted. Yeah. Yeah, I noticed that it looks really good. So I want to get these 2 events on your calendars. The Boulder Garden tour is gonna be starting in the Uni Hill neighborhood this year. It's been going on for a long time, but it doesn't always start on the hill, so that's that's awesome. That's on June 20, fourth. and then we, the Hill Boulder, are planning a Hill Block party on a Saturday, July 20 ninth. That's gonna be marketed towards the families in the neighborhood. It's gonna be a kid. Friendly event.

[7:08] We'll have a I've got a magician booked a balloon artist, a face painter, and an ice cream truck. and some kind of games and activities and stuff. That's 2 to 6 Pm. On the on July 20, ninth, and that'll be on the Event street which will close down to vehicle traffic. We'll have the ice cream truck over on the West End, the magician in a kind of corner there by the sink. and hopefully, we'll get some food out from some of the businesses, and should be fun. I I've been in touch with the Hill neighbors, and they're excited about it. We are waiting to hear back on some funding from an Arts and culture. Grant that will hopefully allow for a second block party tentatively August nineteenth. But that's not confirmed yet. We're still waiting on the money for that.

[8:02] Can I ask a question? Do you have insight into the plans with C you using their parking lot for away game. Viewing I I did. I actually reached out to Chris and Regan about that a while ago, because Jessica Benjamin, who's planning the Sinks 100 year party. was. There was some concerns that there might be overlapping events on one certain day of those one of those certain away games sounds like there's no no. no plans at this time to actually do that away game showing that was discussed. But I have been in touch with Jessica about her potentially taking the lead on that, she said she's interested in that, but it would only be for September second. So just one of the away games. But she she's interested in showing that away game in Lot 65.

[9:06] But as far as I know, there's no plans to make that a a regular occurrence. Okay, thanks. And then I think there was some. There was some information in the packet about the Ambassador program from Laurie, but i'll just give the hill boulders kind of side of it. So we yeah, we got money from Cu to expand the program on the Hill, and we've got Mario Chavez is going to be the the Hill Ambassador Lead. He is the Hill Ambassador Lead. We've got an email address and a phone number set up for him. so he can be reached, or the on Duty Ambassador can be reached@thatnumberhereorattheemailambassadorsatthehillboulder.com. and then I've got our our current hours for that are Sunday to Wednesday, 7 to 8, 37 am. To 8, 30 Pm. And Thursday to Saturday, 7 am. To 1030 Pm.

[10:05] And then i'm working with Terry from downtown boulder to get some flyers and business cards printed. We'll have those distributed to each of the hill businesses probably mid next week. Those will have the phone number, the email and kind of a little a list of all the services that the ambassadors are able to provide. We've already gotten. We've already gotten some good feedback from some business owners that they've seen. They've seen those ambassadors out in their bright blue shirts, helping people out, dealing with on how people in front of the businesses just kinda you know, keeping up a presence on the hill. So we've already got some really good feedback on that, and i'm hoping it continues to continues to be successful. Those are my updates. If you have any questions, feel free to let me know.

[11:02] Do you understand the rationale with having the ambassadors start so early? Nobody is out and about on the hill. Yeah, I think my understanding from Terry is that the the hours that I just read out are the hours for the ambassadors in general, and the actual. The one who's actually going to be up on the hill might run from more like 10 am. To 5 Pm. And then, if you call that number outside of those hours, it gets routed to whoever is down on Pearl Street, and they're able to come up and help out. So I don't. I don't actually think that an ambassador is up on the hill at 7 am. They're just available to come up to the hill. Okay, that that makes sense.

[12:04] And Justin. Can anyone hear me? Okay, I I just can't see myself in the screen. So I wasn't sure typically to remember that a lot of our problem issues occur during the late night. So those ambassadors also show up early in the morning to do some clean and safe and mitigate some of the debris and waste. This may have left been left behind overnight, so that the merchants don't necessarily have to face that first thing at that opening. Great. Thank you. Anybody have any questions for Jake, hey, J. Did you have an opening date for Alex. Arose, or is that still? Tbd. still. Tbd. Thanks. because they there was not a liquor license in that space correct? So they're going through that process.

[13:05] Correct. I've not seen a liquor license yet. I've only seen a business license, and like a dba wasn't it going to be the and they plan it to be sort of an edible on premise. They want to start there. That was what I had heard. Yeah, I I I think I told you that at the last at the last. You can't see meeting. That is either no longer the plan or was not the plan. Not sure but it at this point. It's a tea house and champagne bar. Yeah, because the last concept that that we saw and I can't remember the name of it was when I looked it up for, and I guess they have other businesses. But this is a much better bit and a much more, I think, welcome

[14:05] a concept for drawing people up to the hill. I think. Yeah, I agree. They originally were the mad hatter which had other locations that were doing that sort of marijuana kind of marijuana bar kind of thing. But this is pivoted now. Perfect. The other one other thing. You mentioned it briefly the hundredth anniversary of the same kind. There's a lot going on. You guys are. We're hosting this film from here, and that That's it. So I don't know what else is in the works, although I do think there's oh, I think it's ongoing. Yeah, they're doing some new city counts watching first. I'm sorry. Maybe in September. Yeah, they i'm working with Jessica Benjamin who's from saber productions used to be first byte boulder. She's kind of spearheading the

[15:07] party planning So that's gonna be on September second. and I i'll speak more about it at the next meeting. It's not. Not many of the details are set in stone yet, but it they're hoping it to be a pretty big block party, kind of she would like to close down Thirteenth. We'll see if that works out, but she's got big plans for for it to kind of be a whole hill event. And you know, like Cheryl said, there's stuff that the fox they're gonna have an exhibit at the Boulder Museum. and i'll i'll speak more about that at the next meeting. When I have more information it'd be nice to to support them somehow. I'm getting the information up there. Yeah, because I mean it's at the point of the you right now, right? I'm just i'm waiting on Jessica. I've been poking her regularly to you know, so that we can get tickets on sale and get it up on our website. So I I poked at her again. I think she's pretty busy with.

[16:08] and that's over now, correct. Yeah. First sip just ended first up there. First site is in the Okay, this. Okay? So yeah, we'll we'll certainly push everything that we can out on our end and on the help older website. Well, I don't know. Yeah, and this thing is also been doing their Friday afternoon. They see in the last Friday. I don't know if that's promoted on the website. Not yet. But yeah, I will add that actually. yeah, because they have been alright. J. Is there anything else, Andrew? Did you have any questions? Anything else anyone wants to

[17:01] discuss about you? Just on the Sync Sync Centennial note I was i'm talking with the Hill Hotel. So the people who are curating the art for the Hill Hotel are hopefully gonna have all of the artifacts or some of the artifacts from that exhibit at the Boulder Museum on display in the lobby of the Hill Hotel. which I think would be a really cool kind of cohesive. You know, way to show that the the hotel cares about the community that it's coming into. So i'm working with Danica and Jessica to kind of make those connections and see if we can get that to happen. I will say that. How long ago was it, maybe 2 years ago, when we talked about, maybe having an exhibit in the hotel that Harold, the history of the outdoor industry in Boulder that started with some businesses on the hill. I think, Trent, you.

[18:06] You brought that up to me, and I think that was at some point brought to her attention. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to maybe put that back in for thoughts or the hotel developers thoughts, because that's a pretty cool yeah, we were talking about it with Jennifer, and then I can't remember his name there he was there and then lacked what was his name. Yeah, that's right. So then, it just kind of went away so happy to re-engage that, especially since it's the mountain year it's on the site, the site. It's the site so that's great. Yeah, I'll. I'll remind Danica about that

[19:00] and as far as if you're talking about Neptune. Mountaineering is that is what the shop they used to be up there. or Neptune. Okay, because Bob is still around Boulder. very famous climbing school, and then real quickly, for I guess for Jessica I have yet to receive any application for a special event permit, and literally right now. May Second is exactly 120 days from their event. So in the next 30 days we need to get an application, and for them to do a street closure. Okay, Thank you. LAN: yeah. I I have reminded them about that a few times now, and i'll continue to continue to push them on that as have. I? Thanks, Jake. Yep. Thanks. Alright. Thank you. Yep. Thanks. Everyone. Okay. Moving on to matters from staff. Her side management update.

[20:01] It's actually been Carly set for Barron peers. But I know that this is listening in. It looks like, but i'm sure if he's presenting it all but great thanks all. I think Chris was gonna kick us off. I'm not sure if he has panelists abilities. All right, Chris. I i'm here I'm here all right. Well, thank you so much. Chris Hagglin, principal planner in transportation mobility on the transportation planning team, and tonight we wanted to share with you a an update on our curbside management project. We've been to this committee before, as well as all the other committees and our transportation advisory Board as well, and we'd like to share with you where we are in the project, as we're kind of getting towards the end.

[21:06] Our plan is as I'll talk about further is to go to our Transportation Advisory Board in June, their June twelfth meeting, and at that meeting we will be asking Tab to advise the city manager to use our curbside management implementation guidebook to guide the operation of traffic and parking in public right of way. So this project is really all about. How do we most effectively use our curb side so, Carly? Why, don't you go to the next slide? Thanks. So you know. Why. Why are we going to manage the curb, and you know we we do it already. But we're we're just changing some of the ways in which we're doing it, and some of the options that we have, and how we designate different curbside uses. But you know, really, the curve is that front door to all destinations.

[22:02] It's where someone connects to different modes of transportation, often transitioning to a pedestrian when you look at it, you know. Besides our our roads themselves, the curb is probably our one of our largest public resources, and it's up to the city to manage how we designate different curbside uses. I think, the most compelling reason why we are also making changes is that the curb has growing demands on it. and for different types of demands. We've seen this over time change with how commerce is done. When you think about the proliferation of Ups Fedex Amazon deliveries. When you think about the growth of transportation network companies or Tncs like Uber and lyft hailing, you know, for the ride hailing. And then you think about all the changes that happened during Covid, some of which were temporary, but some of which may stay with us in terms of the number of people that require that

[23:09] real short-term pick up and drop off parking option. And ultimately, you know the curbside management is a way to achieve our community goals and transportation next one, please. Oh, okay, Going right to? Well, we're doing an abrupted version in in front of you. I think it was probably a little over a little less than 2 months ago. So if you're probably laid out the curb framework in our meeting in March, where we identify the curve menu, the hierarchy of what curve use categories are more important on which street types. So we really just want to focus on some of the changes and and additions that we've added over the last 2 months. So so if you're probably presenting these typical areas last time where we identified the layout and distribution of different curve uses in an area. But we wanted to provide a little bit more guidance without being prescriptive. As to how are we making these changes from our existing distribution of curve uses into the future so higher level than where are we seeing a loading zone exactly on every block, and how many perklet should be on each block. We're providing sample blocks and so on the next slide. But really want to

[24:23] it. Provide this range of different curve, use categories depending on the street type. So we're seeing a shift where we're reallocating on street parking to things like activation for people, access for commerce and activation and place making. So within each of these different categories is a lot of different specific curb uses that a lot can choose depending on the land. Use context, history of crashes, resonant complaints, compliance. But generally we're seeing this reallocation, the shift towards more for people and activation people in order to accomplish the city goals to really prioritize this valuable space for people, and use garages of straight structures to for vehicle storage so working closely with community vitality as as Chris knows, in order to, you know, work on the the pricing comparison as well as education for the public about using garages for parking and reallocating the on street space. So here's an example. This is on a a commercial center block where we have a high density of uses and a mix of user

[25:23] we're gonna see higher turnover of spaces and more activation. So example that that redistribution, less vehicle storage, and more of those other uses, so the tool will help inventory kind of your existing uses, and then based off the location of the block. That city staff is is working on this analyzing. We'll provide a sample pie chart like this one here, and then from there there'll be different example. Blocks that can be used to help guide. Decisions of where kind of changes in curb use are appropriate, and with the ratio, the distribution and the location on each block, we should stay in the future for these different curve uses. So this is one example. Each example has context around where it's appropriate. We've got a commercial center next to a neighborhood avenue or a higher density residential area.

[26:17] So one other addition over the last 2 months is we heard a lot from our stakeholder group. Where do allies fit into this, or do we want to prioritise allies for moving people? Should we prioritize them for dining areas, for parklets behind businesses, or are they just a place for loading? So there's 2 main goals, one to accomplish when we think about allies in the context of curbside management, what on street uses are we seeing today that potentially could shift towards the alleys in order to make our streets in our curb space safer, more comfortable for people. So things like commercial loading. We heard a a lot and a recommendations in the guidebook about moving, loading into the alleys. We're feasible, and we're also seeing an opportunity to activate allies more. So we have a great peer review of communities like for Collins, which maybe you might be familiar with their ally activation program, and we've identified Preliminary alley segments that are prime for activation. We are recommending that an ally access plan is appropriate. The future this is crips and management plan. So we touch on alleys, but digging deeper and really identifying

[27:17] those opportunities to activate allies further is a great next step for the city. and then the other addition is about managed parking. So there's currently guidance on when to change parking, pricing. So for the performance space parking, pricing program based on utilization. When should pricing go up? What we don't have currently city does not have currently as guidance on. When, to add a time restriction to a block, or when to go from free to to a price block, and that's both within the current Gids, where there's some blocks that just are missing, so it's almost a a clean up of those blocks that are free and unrestricted, even though they're within the Gids, but also identify other areas where we want to manage blocks, even if that's not a gid. So thinking about output awesome. What are the different criteria that are at play here? And when do we want to shift from, free

[28:07] to priced, or for not time restricted to time restricted. So this is a a part of the guidebook as well. This guidance. We also have language that you know, starting the process of of making changes to the boulder revised code. So these are the different categories that we have proposed ordinance language to. So this will go through public review and and the the full process. But we've written a first draft of the new ordinance language around, you know, referencing the guidebook as a tool. Additional curbside uses that aren't present today flexible loading zones being one of those. If you're a caller presentation in March. Right now in the performance space pricing guidelines in the city managers rule to enforce those. If a block has low parking utilization, City managers allowed to reduce the price of that block, we're shifting it to instead, using price as a lever for an underutilized block to rather use supply as a lever to to acknowledge. If a block is under parts, then reallocating those parking spaces to other uses, the appropriate action, rather than reducing the price of that block.

[29:14] And then, lastly, we're working with developers is still can be led by the city. But guidance on including in the site, review process and and the traffic study, development process considerations for how changes to curb site use, and the blocks adjacent to that new development can help the tdm component of things and and enhance the the comfort and kind of the functionality of that new development, and also acknowledged that there'll be a shift. And how demand for the curved space in in demand for the curves based off of that change of land use or potential increase of densification. So i'll hand it over to Chris to go over some final next steps over the next 2 months. While we close up the project.

[30:03] we have our final access Allies meeting in May. As well. This is the kind of the community working group that we've been working with throughout the whole project bouncing ideas off of and getting their input As I mentioned. We'll be going to tab on June twelfth, asking them to advise the city manager to use our curbside implementation guidebook at to to guide city policy and practices. We'll send it out some additional information based on that, the result of that tab meeting to City Council, and then probably June through October, will be working on updating any of those related ordinances or city manager rule changes. I do also want to say that you know we we really value this commission's input. And so, you know, as we implement the guidebook, and then we start thinking about what are some of those proactive changes we may make to different curbside uses within your area. We will certainly always come to this Commission to get your input and feedback before any of those curbside changes

[31:18] would be made. You know, we really value your input, especially, you know, at many of us business owners. But and so we'll be doing that, and then we'll be working on those reactive changes as well. So if there are businesses within the Commission district that are seeking to have a a change in a requesting one, then we can work through that process, and I think one of the one of the best things that this project has done, and I'm. And Carly discussed him at the the last time we were in front of you is what are those standard operating procedures that city staff will use as and this new online tool that Pier and Pierce has developed to help the city go through those changes based on what is the data that we're looking at? What are the current conditions. What's the system

[32:11] around it? It could be because this is really a network approach, right? Not any one block face is going to solve the curbside demands of an area. So we have to look at it really like a network approach, and any changes we make. How is that going to affect the rest of the network. And how can we fulfill the demand within a network of blocks rather than one in a individual block? So those are our our key next steps moving forward. and we're happy to answer any questions. I know this was abbreviated. I I I know that some of you may not have been at our our March meeting, where we really went through in detail all the implementation guidebook. So I I know some of you may have some questions.

[33:09] I don't have any questions. and someone else has questions at this time. But thank you for the update. sure thing. Yes, and and you know, from our pilot program. We did have some pilots in on University Hill, the flexible loading zones we're used throughout the day through a variety of uses. I mean. We just saw so much use of of those flexible loading zones. We were really happy to see the the diversity of uses by different types of vehicles and different types of users, and we also collected data on average stays. So we have a good idea of how long each of these loading zones was used by different types of users. So we're going to use all of that

[34:02] as as we move forward. That's great, great, Thank you. All right, Thank you. That's all right. Well, then, we can move over to Reagan, who has some great updates for you all regarding our work with the Colorado or Bernard Institute on our technical advisory panel of Grants. That is moving forward because I it is nowhere here as request this one. I know some exciting updates for you all. So we did just have our kick off meeting this morning. You all my staff. and we were able to confirm the it's for the community which will be June 20, first and 20 s. so i'll be sending you all invites for that coming up here soon. I just want to thank Cheryl for being willing to host the box much appreciated Carol or me one budget. But the team meeting is

[35:03] It's gonna be 2 business days with the panel and all the system, various activities, including stakeholder interviews. There will be a site tour which we ask that that we conducted later in the day in the early. and then there will be working sessions to develop recommendations. Address that problem statement, and then, finally, a presentation from the panel, outlining the reading, the recommendations. and then, lastly, a file report would be delivering approximately 6 weeks after the meeting. and with all that said, we're planning to bring it to our vitalization efforts, particularly the recommendations from the panel that's to redevelopment Fourteenth Street law, along with next steps to.

[36:02] So that's what I I just want to offer. So there are 6 stakeholder sessions, so we would like for Camc to be representative one of those panels, possibly with a couple of Council members, and so we can have 2 members from you can't see. Attend that, and it will need to be notices about our meeting and public attending, so want to see if there's any volunteers or nominations of who but I can participate in that level of the stakeholder process. The stakeholder interviews would be half an hour each June 20, first and 20 s. Let me. Everyone can be invited to the final presentation. That's an open public meeting, and so you can all be there to review the final results. We just can't invite the entire commission to the the So the stakeholder interviews are on the first day, so G 20,

[37:05] you know, waited to rake. you know. Break it up so that there's multiple sessions. Yes, one session and 2 and another session. So the challenges we have. We want to make sure there's broad, so there is. There will be like that business representatives, so we could break it up in that sense of of if there's a. So I went in as a business representative, and I would just have to say, i'm not speaking, for you can't see. Is that what that would be so, then you wouldn't be on the stakeholder meeting that's with city council numbers.

[38:00] so we certainly would like to. We want to to. We we also want to. Strategically. We only have 6 of our sessions. We want to make sure we have a broad stakeholder, so we can see you in only talking to 6 people. Okay, yeah, I would say, it will be one will be policy maker. You know the the policy leadership and flood influencers. So that's the one we'll, we'll one not at least for that one. And then, if there's there will be a business numbers property owners once, so that there certainly would be, I would be happy to participate in that function and have. you know, another one of okay, if you, if possible. We've got 2 business right here on this, but not on the No. I'm. Represent 3 or 3. There won't be a C. You there will be a Cu. Related session, so that maybe that would be a good one, maybe so, and not participating as a C.

[39:04] I I could participate as that. How they did you so potentially share. I want to represent for the yeah. Exactly. Okay. So that's on June 20 first. Another presentation will be It's that's mainly during the day. I guess. Just trying to get a sense of I'm on the first day goes to a little after. but that's I think, with so it will pull you in for a half hour, and so more more details on the exact time, slot or that. But please do mark your calendars so that doesn't get booked up so

[40:01] before that final presentation at 40'clock or 30'clock, or something the next following day. because it's happening in the I know that there's a lot of regional interest in this at being a Ui number. I can see who's been signing up. And so we've got that folks that are really interested in coming to boulder and and helping us. It's a strategic direction. So if you can see what exactly so, I mean it's that normal that that's that's a really tight timeframe for somebody to all the information, and then come to some conclusions that they may be presented to city council with some. you know, oracle. What if the stakeholders

[41:05] tell me. feel that the the analysis is on the mark, so to speak, what? What's the recourse for the the the meeting with city council study session. We're not asking them to bless as a strategy out voting on anything they're going to get the next step along the way to see from their perspective. What's the next steps in community engagement engagement with key stakeholders, just to to pull out what what does have in settings, so that we know what we can get to work on. Have we or the city? Have we given them access to the previous studies to where they keep all the input from all the stakeholders

[42:04] present back to the community. But so that's kind of that's it's it's scary that's to keep up on their process. So they do. This process. you know, for other projects that the eerie town center was the result of this exact process, where they absorb all the documents that have been produced in the past. They have a 2 day session outside unbiased opinions. They've done all their reading. They have conversations with folks who are really close to the issues, and within 6 to 8 weeks they produce. They produce a report based on there and the swap analysis that we did back in whatever month that was from the Commissioner's opinions on what our strengths, and we all the I think that you've been sharing, we those are in the stack

[43:03] a lot after their final presentation. It's it's not like their work is done. It sounds like it'll be a fairly error process. We'll be able to review the final before by feedback. It's not our will be so. You couldn't have any. and that that next day of the presentation that did you say that was open to everybody in the same time. Yes. yeah, you can't. You can't sit together and talk business. But there's a but if there's a public meeting, you all are able to see if you Adam, that' be seen how to in the corner together. Got it? Okay, make sense. Take over the city. Okay. And everybody's available in town. June 20 first, 20, s.

[44:04] awesome, perfect. That's good. Alright. Do you have any other questions for us with this? Okay, perfect. So I will go ahead and confirm the States on our calendar. All right. Preliminary Budget Review. So Teresa Pink was here. We're in the midst. It's already time to start talking about the 2,024 budget, and so Teresa, as our senior manager of business services, like the vitality, is leading the process for the department, and for all of our general districts she has some overview information to share you. Today, as we work to build the you and and budget or support of the Gid. Do you want me to share the presentation? Is that okay? Any alright, Well, i'll let you in the packet. It's not. Or is it different. It's different from the packet. It's just kind of the year to date, but financial.

[45:18] that addition to the

[46:40] priorities we take those and put them together with our department work plan, making sure that the work that we've got in place is going to help achieve those goals, and then that takes us into kind of more of our financial protection. We start getting to the the actual prior. You're looking at that where we need to go in the new budget here and looking at strategic planning and how to pull it together.

[47:05] Okay, my teacher. it's not okay. So we're gonna right at the bottom of this right now. So the face we're in right now. It's kind of diving into the department budget development phase of this and then August that is piled into the wide budget development process. It'll go then, to counsel for adoption, and then that brings us back around to our So if you go down some of the key priorities that came out of our discussions, including cleanliness, commercial area, revitalization, strategic partnership. thinking of and creating the hills of destination, and then really focus on on the new to find health, and I think some of the feedback that we got from Jake in his report are really great up to you to see some of those priorities taking.

[48:07] You can flight and see an action on those. So it's thinking that we've got the presence in downtown. There are some ambassadors on the hill, which is a really exciting transition for us City staff. I've included a new additional power washing on the just simple things to kind of help people on the commercial area revitalization. We've got our of funding that's been identified to help promote those activations, and we're really happy to be your partner with the helpful and providing financial support, so that' be able to facilitate the exciting activities like the block party and make sure that there are activities to make it a vibrant place. because it's kind of talked about strategic partnerships, seeing some of the fruits of those right now, but looking to for the room to blossom as we go forward. I know there's a lot of excitement around.

[49:00] Okay. office center, and I think that really falls well into the I'm. Looking at this business that are coming online and creating some an energy and excitement around what's going on. And then as far as the users but helps things control for a little more internally. Certainly we talked about our interest in advocating, for you did, in terms of the increasing the general fund appropriations that kind of took the dip during the pandemic. It went down to what about 2? So starting to have this conversation talk about the economic vibrancy and the importance of the bill as a destination and helping Council understand some of the challenges. Obviously, we're really excited. We just for your awareness to get the so we have a. So we have a next piece of the puzzle in our map. And so if you go to see the map boundaries and you do, those have increased at this point. It so I think it'll be a lot to our bookkeeping wise as the New Hill Hotel is assessed.

[50:15] and things like that so really excited to see the growth and element there and then, looking at other ways that we can find to the budget, making sure that we're exploring everything from timber, and then looking at those restrictions, and whether or not those are helping or hindering our progress on the hill. That's a lot of really exciting things that we're seeing the counter priorities coming into alignment with what we're looking at at the city staff. And then, as we go, look at next slide. One of the things that was a little bit challenging last year is the timing of our meetings in May, a little bit premature to have a full budget to be able to share with you. And then, by the July meeting, we've already submitted those budgets to counsel, and so we're looking to those

[51:03] a combined commission meeting budget. maybe in in June, or we could bring the Commissioners together to share the budget, Give them time for us to be able to make the tweets adjustments, for we actually submit those budgets. I'm saying that this is going to be working to coordinate that meeting, and so that you all have that opportunity to review the time transport budget prior to actual submissions. That's great. That's a great improvement. Yeah, I think. And so then go to the next slide. We just kind of run through the budget calendar high level again. We're right in that Budget development phase in April through 2. Obviously today kind of represents the high level I already using kind of how we went about creating this new opportunity with the the June meeting and picking into account all of the priorities that's been established

[52:00] doing well together, the actual be able to make a motion to approve hopefully. We'll get that place, and that'll be early. A good step forward, and then it will move. The end of June is our actual submission deadline. The live. We'll look at the cip review team and Ebt, the Executive budget team will start. Thank you. and then it's September. That's when we actually budget and sign up to council, and then so that have the formal adoption, but so just wanted to make sure that you were in the loop and aware of that and kind of looking forward to the Zoom Meeting to get a lot more question from someone. see? And just to be clear. Oh.

[53:01] Lynn couldn't hear, so it's about. So the June meeting is proposed to be a cross so downtown Mini Hill, and we reduction emissions together to get the presentation on the overall vitality budget with the specific proposals for each of the funds, and then each commission would need to go separately to approve as that commission. But just wanna to make sure that we can maybe have the whole opportunity together and all today, and it's good practice for us, and presuming that goes well, we get your feedback. Then we have more presentations for other groups ahead. Preparation for me else great. So we will continue to move forward on drafting the budget and look forward to to sharing some of information will still plan on

[54:04] more conversations and and meetings to come. So thank you so much, Teresa, for putting this together to you any more questions on our process. Thanks. all right, and that's the end of the slides. Stop sharing my okay. i'm going to interject in the agenda room. But we have a new face in the room. I wanted to take the opportunity to new staff Member Christine Edwards. Hello! She is joining us as our new operations, and they its senior manager. This is her second week with the city comes to us from together, formerly in attention homes where she served as the chief chief operating officer so really excited after her joining the team, and she's taken from a fire right now, and was in meeting marathons today. and i'm so glad you're able to stop by. But maybe so, as you know, this is the you can't see mission. Would you like to share a little bit more about yourself. Christine and

[55:16] I've been at Boulder residents since 2,006, because then to a number you would see 2 or 3 min right? So my ex used to manage bands. I ended up managing that not a busting, or only the Busing Company who were rented buses out to Tory musicians went on national tour. So that was kind of. And then for that, I was at an organization called so I've been really deeply ingrained in this community long time, and i'm excited if I might be at the city and supporting businesses. And okay. you want to introduce yourself to sure. Hi, i'm in your shoemaker. I've been

[56:01] one, if you can see for maybe 2 years and a half. I was on the city council before that in a bit of border I love right off the hill late Nineties Cheryl. the chair of the Commissioner. I've been on this for 8 years. 3 with a one year break. and it moved to Boulder, the end of 91. So I've been here for a long time. Love serving boulder. and we will continue to work to improve the help. Commercial district. I'm. Ted Rock. Well, I work at the University of Colorado. Been there for 17 years offices 2 blocks away from the hill right next to the conference there bills currently

[57:00] and older since the late nineties homeowner in South Boulder. and it's a pleasure to serve on this commission and this district become all it can be back to something, maybe business lot of years. And I started a few businesses on Hill over many years and decades. I've been here my whole life on a month. My. I I've been here for a few generations. My grandfather's worked on the hell, my! So just the the hills near near to me, and especially some the more glory days that it's seen, and then just wanted to get involved to try to help any guide it back to her. So team will be meeting our Enforcement team, our meetings, team customer service teams, part of all, but also, of course, making sure that she's involved in challenges and the work that we're doing.

[58:09] You're familiar, I'm: i'm also up a one or downtown. so we're really delighted to have our thanks for coming by sure we'll be reaching it. Yes. oh, and special events as well. I also wanted to mention one more thing on the work that I know that some trees have been planted in. More trees are being plants. We've the the landscaping improvements that went in. We've got landscaping, that's on. And I think hopefully I did very, very soon I have a question. Should I head on my little list here?

[59:01] It looks like some of the small trees that we planted in the last iteration of hill improvements and irrigation. It looks like some of them are not making it. And will those be replaced as part of the new plantings that are going in to the in boxes. First, do we have an update on the irrigation that you have it all up and running that's been repaired. That was strategic. To make sure we water the plants that we are planting the treaty is definitely on. Look the little trees that were planted chime in that. I've been coordinating for a street department, and we're planning on doing inventory of vacant trees and trees, what trees are aligned, and how big in coming up with a plan.

[60:01] It's perfect right. I can't tell if they're going to make it. But that would be nice as an entry to the commercial district if we had some vibrant. healthy trees there. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it just seems some of them didn't quite make it through the Oh, I know functioning of the irrigation that's got to all right Lastly, Lisa has an update on our recruitment.

[61:11] But this is the 23 mid year Commissioner recruitment This is given to me today, but it's so. It has not been officially approved by the city manager's office in council, but they said they don't expect any push back. This should be how it's gonna go. So the big days are may 29 that that will open and as always that will be available to any perspective potential commissioner online, so they can apply online. All the information will be there. accepting applications through July second and interviews July eleventh and twelfth, and then hopefully at the City Council meeting on August third. There'll be a nomination.

[62:00] It would be great, and I just had the update for the vacancies on the commissions, and this is like this. So they consent. So this was before we had a chance to talk with you, Cheryl, but we have one vacancy, and then it says there would possibly be a second one if show chose not to continue the service. So there's definitely one property owner, representative. and it will depend on if we get at it. So your term you can stay in your seat until there's somebody that is that pointed to fill the seat. and so we'll see what the process reveals. Oh, just the city! Do you do you have an idea of what's most important to city council? And the reason, I ask. That is because not this here, but the previous year there was one applicant that didn't get approved, so it it made me think what what it. What is city Council looking for?

[63:04] And the applicant? We're there hot buttons that they're not looking for. I I I guess i'm just you know I can't. I can't speak to Councils position on that question. But I and i'm not exactly sure what the was for that. Okay. But they're also quite possible that there was some sort of big simulating reason why they weren't eligible, for let's see. they didn't live in the district or something. and there there might have been an app again that showed up on the rust. But then, through the regular interview and betting processes, realized that they're actually not multiple. I I I don't know that there would be from answer on that. But I thought I at least ask if there was any insight given the number of vacancies that we have on our commissions. I don't know the Council as being too terribly picky, and then there's there's a major Triggers for them to not accept

[64:15] an application, although I do know that there has been a time where they never, They did not want to consider candidates. If there wasn't at least one other candidate to answer them against. I don't know that they have the luxury of of continuing that approach, but I and I don't. I've heard that recently that that there is a limit. and whether or not they are willing to interview someone, and it has to be so. The 2 openings, If I were, you know. if they got 2 people they wanted to appoint to the Commission they would both have to be property on our business. I believe. So we are. We have the 2

[65:03] considering this round up to be. It's the way you put it. Chris. Sheriff. Stay so, but I I understand it. Cheryl can't leave. I would think City. Well, they're all newer, so it might not be tired of me quite yet. But alright. Let's see. Thank you, Lisa. Does there need to be any more discussion on Commissioner recruitment. Anybody has

[66:03] ideas or thoughts they want to put forward. Or okay. Okay, yeah. let's see. So matters from the Commissioner. I mean, I put this on because I just think it's still critical, and I don't know if there are actionable items that we can be taking to keep. you know, kicking this can down the road until the district is not penalized for being adjacent to the University and Alison, and responsible as a district for behavior of, you know the student population. So i'm just. I'm a little at a loss. But I do think we need to start.

[67:05] We need to continue discussing this until we get some movement on it. So any words wisdom from I know he got in the news. You know we have some city council members that are not familiar. We did a tour of the L. We talked about our flight, but I think this particular issue is something that I think really needs to be put from center, because they are the only ones who can remove that additional restriction. I suspect the topic is going to come up a few times during the Ui app stakeholder meetings. I would encourage if you wanted to have a phone of confidence for the 2 members that are going to be on the stakeholder meeting with council members if you want to, as a commission

[68:05] the that you want to support them in sending a specific message as a body. I think we can. We can formalize that as that right now to, so that you are speaking, even though you will, that you're at 2. You can say at our last meeting. You need this, our top priority for this topic, because we did, we? Well, we didn't explicitly say in the Ui tap. Grant that this is a barrier that we need to address. From this conversation we did recognize that there are regulatory. and that I was a that was a way to to make sure that there was space for the conversation on this and other regulatory and barriers. Maybe not the right word, but knowing that it's come out again with this with the cannabis hospitality right? The the recommendations from Cannabis Commission

[69:05] and I think licensing is so we're gonna we? We're recommending to council that we allow those establishments everywhere but University of commercial area. So it continues to the students can't take right. But and so it multiple transportation there haven't so, and recommendations continue to get made the treat, the University Hill Commercial, with the discrimination differently than everywhere else. And so I think that that will. I think the top will come up in in June. So i'm Unclear, he said that we could stay now that we would like the 2 commissioners who will be. and a stakeholder meeting with city Council members. So what is that process? Do we just say that we would?

[70:01] I'd say, if there was a formal notion of how you would like topic to be representative, there's a majority vote that says you want to empower the commissioners to have that I move to empower the 2 commissioners who will be attending the that Grant stakeholder meeting to support the removal of the liquor license restrictions specific to university. You know. with City council. That makes sense. Put it more exactly. I'll second that so we can start discussing it of that. Okay, i'm wondering if the language there is exactly right. I feel like what we're doing is asking for the University Hill area of commercial area district to be treated the same as any other

[71:03] commercial district in the city in terms of liquor licensing. And I would say, that is marijuana licensing. I'm just concerned that if we just say, roll back, it's not enough. I think I guess, my point there being that we also just heard some discrimination against being able to use the hell in other commercial is that perhaps we don't want restrictions there. Either. I guess the main point is it shouldn't this, or just be considered a business district like any other in the city. and so the language would be closer to treated just as any other business district within the I I Yeah, and I think we can also frame it in the context of everyone is talking about the an interconnectedness between downtown boulder and the hill. In light of these 2 projects really between the hill

[72:08] and downtown. And so we need to make it seamless, and it seems to be seamless in all kinds of ways, but what he called discrimination or opportunity, or what not. This idea that that you know it's really just it's false one in a way you need a positive instead of a negative right like let's not go back. Let's go forward with right. With all the new opportunity, both of the the conference center, the connected interconnectedness, the and so forth. And so and so to revisit these types of things that were based one, an old. now outdated structure, right? Because even if you look at the new. can't remember the 2 names through the coffee shop, champagne, or

[73:07] how are they going? You know it's like you have to sell 50% in food in order to be compliant with your liquor license with the champagne bar, and then you have to shut it down by 11. It would be so wonderful for a show to get out. Some of our shows are ending earlier, especially for adult. You know not let's say over 25 as the Age group to walk down the street to have a a night cap. and then you've got the empty albums on the hill space where he, Turner. you know my can reconsider his decision to go into the albums on the hill if it didn't.

[74:00] if it didn't impact. If that decision didn't impact his current grandfathered like a liquor, license. hours and percentage and things like that. It's also a safety issue, I think, because the accumulation, you know here that world so important, especially at night time. More people on the street, the safer it is. And you know that we're not stopping students, I mean, in working from legally drinking. They're all walking down to the hill, I mean. They're all walking downtown. Why not capture some of them up here and and get that crowd going and and and have it feel safer in the evenings as possible. All right, so i'm relatively adapt to parliamentary procedure. And so i'm going to suggest a friendly amendment to the motion.

[75:00] Thank you to rephrase the motion. and this is where I could be to help to make a recommendation to power, the 2 Board members attending whatever that language was, the City Council. Thank you to ring for the recommendation that the University Hill Commercial Area district be treated as any other business district in city boulder in terms of what the wrong phrase liquor, licensing, and cannabis regulations. Do we need to say all regulatory how about somebody

[76:03] up in there with the right language? Yes, thank you. All regulatory considerations guiding commercial. Okay? And Lisa, did you get all that? Not all of it, but it's recording, so i'll make sure it's like a 100% accurate, and then there's nothing to stop as well. Cheryl: for example, the business do we need to? On the amended. I think we need a second. I second all in favor. bye. So now the minutes will reflect that specific language does not prohibit you all from elaborating in conversation in the stakeholder meeting. But then that would be the the specific language that is shared in.

[77:04] Do we know for certain that the 2 Commissioners will be in the same stakeholder group as city Council members. That would be our intent in working with the to make sure that there is a appointed elected stakeholder group. So you will be working with. you know I folks to make sure that that is right, Chris. Help us out with that, so that I I mean, let's let's. Let's say that the Ui. You know how to minimum. This is something to be explored right. and and that that provides some additional. It's ultimately, when this something like this to happen. it would need to be put on the City Council as work, plan at the retreat, and then go from there. Or is it

[78:03] that's get to be there's certainly we we update the folder or vice code on, you know, a regular basis through, since agendas depends on the level of interest of the broader community and proposed change. and what other departments think it's going to take. Is is it just revising the the code and getting a thumbs up from council to study session and and getting on the consent agenda? And then it changes. I suspect that there are folks that live nearby the commercial area that might get on their attention, their radar, and they would want to pick it up for. But I don't get to make those decisions, because it's find any department really that that is late to land use. and so there would need to be an involvement in

[79:03] request of the planning department to make sure that this is a priority. Whether or not it needs to be a on work, item. or that are due process with changes they make all the time. I'm. Just thinking 3 steps ahead what we. what it legally is our ability. It's obviously something that we all think is something that a minimum should be explored to. But what is our ability as a group or pointing someone to go have a conversation with the Neighborhood association. not this time around, because it's not it's, you know, premature, but it's about that, because you know what I would say, the work that we're doing in community vitality is parallel to the hell revised realization of a group that participated in. And so similarly to that process where

[80:07] there's a group that got together and talked about things that need to be done to make things better on the hill. In the residential area we effectively, you can see, is identified as the stakeholder group that's charged with making things better in the commercial area. We're in the process of like coming together. Okay, what are the top priority things to do to make that possible that could lead to a set of recommendations that we get in front of Council, and administratively without a huge work plan. Item: on any departments side of the organization. We can get those ordinance changes across the finish line. That's possibility similar similar to what happened with the neighborhood group. I can't guarantee that that's how the process will go, sure, but that's certainly what we are trying to map out here is

[81:04] through a variety of stakeholder influence, and some outside experts coming in. What are the top priority recommendations? Things that we need to change in order to set the commercial area for the success possible in light of all this opportunity. But it certainly like, consisting, contents the context with live constraints. So we'll see what gets revealed through the process. And if we can hold the planning department along with us in that conversation. And yeah, that's that's what our desire is with the planning department also the body that would. So we talked about the moratorium on residential new housing in the commercial district. which I guess, is good.

[82:07] You know some of the recommendations for the Fourteenth Street lots that that was a priority. or any best you can best use of that what's the process to for that to change So that particular more to I am just because I I don't know what that takes. If if councils decide that they want to take it up, and they express through the the Council Agenda committee that that's a it's not that hard to end. The moratorium. They come out randomly. If If there's enough Council members to think that's priority to be added to future meeting.

[83:00] so that it's just in some matter, so that potentially it could be a very quick change that could impact the use of last big asset that we have. And I would. I was just curious, because I didn't, and I would say that that is maybe another topic to i'm up at the Ui stakeholder sessions and acknowledging that we have 2 million just over 2 million dollars to bring the to the table. It's not a lot of dollars these days, but it is part of a capital stack to make something happen at Fourteenth Street I thought it was 2.7 in it. I'm just trying to keep it. So. Yeah, acknowledging that that we are bringing something in the table, but it's not. It's not going to be enough to get something. I think, what? We aspire toward across the finish line. So it needs to be leveraged to bring other folks the table to make something happen, and then housing is determined that that's what's been a pencil best.

[84:12] Then we have some some barriers removed in order to to make that actually work. Yeah, I think to from the record, and that that that that an email you some of it. There's maybe a healthy disagreement on that that's subject, and I would ask you to forward the material I forwarded to you to the as well. That's great. What is the process for the ui tab Grant recommendation? It's making it into city council's hands. So the thing i'm thinking we we just agree that we're gonna, you know, when we have a stakeholder meeting it comes up. But that's sort of like. you know, throwing pennies in in the lake. That is one piece of the bigger conversation. And so we are already scheduling the console for August tenth. Okay, and see Manners approval for that date.

[85:11] We brought this up with city council at the Retreat. Help! Revitalization as the topic, and that's that's that's our our agenda. Item. it's nice session is Oh, commercial error and revitalization update. Knowing that we have not just the Ui tab. We we have a lot of things that we want to bring to with them to get them engaged in this conversation. It's and it's, and it's a study session. So it's not like they're going to be making any, you know, voting on any changes, but it is our opportunity to bring to my challenges and the opportunities we're looking forward to, that. We're glad we have it's. You will like to have the kind of get the momentum going, and then our next big touch. There will be a huge opportunity that we want

[86:03] seems to be well done. and we will have to smack if you all. Before that we'll meet with you. We want to get your lesson. That's your august meeting on the materials that we can be cancelled. Reason, I ask. Thank you. And the reason I asked that is that you know June 20 s is just a month and a half away. June 20 s to August. Even the meeting we have there's an opportunity in there potentially, and I I wonder if i'm just wondering out loud whether there's any sort of lobby, or you should try to engage it to ensure that we're not starting cold on this issue for the August tenth working session. In other words, city council may have a lot on their play in terms of considering what's going on on the hill and liver licensing is just one of them. you know. Is is there another opportunity for us as a group to ensure that we're getting this message to them? Beyond that June 20 first stakeholder.

[87:05] 2. Well, we will all form, and so we can make this. We can't make formal decisions. We're not together in a meeting so sure. There's the budget meeting, especially in the budget, and then we'll have the August meeting where we're. So our next meeting is so what I don't know. Sorry, my, my, my, my see who's around on July fifth to see if they don't to have the meeting, and maybe we can be proactive, and ship the meeting, and I don't know what's all involved in that, but I know for certain I will not. So yeah, let's since we're meeting in June for the joint budget meeting. and apologies for getting my months messed up. I thought the Fourth was. I don't know

[88:06] Wednesday. so this it would be Wednesday, July the it's still not going to be here, but it's Wednesday, not Tuesday. So people worked on finding a good rescheduled for the July meeting, and it might like to August as well know materials are the pair. So I would like to. I mean it's not I don't, you know. meeting doesn't have to cancel, because i'm not going to be here, but in one of the 3 remaining well, i'd say that issue with Sign your dependence side. We would much rather have

[89:06] for Council. and those won't. Be ready to the last week of July, anyway. And so if we were able to move July meeting to august one. You stay, August one that would be really really great for that bye. That works for me right? So noted. Yes, I i'll. I'll set it like revised, and also confirming location, because sometimes there's an issue. This room books up fast. But there's other options everywhere. So absolutely yeah, I'll send it. Well, you know it's funny to say that because I am training very soon to do meetings up there. So we used to have meetings up there for years.

[90:08] Yeah. yeah. it's set up. you know, on top. There, we've been trying to build a a more connected relationship between staff and the alright, so we are going to consider the main thing. We don't have to vote on that. No, I mean stuff will take care of it. Alright Does anyone have anything else that they I was just gonna say an email with like from the city about. You know, if fiber is going to be. you know, in the works with everything, with all the other upgrades

[91:08] which will be great. And that was it. I think the alley behind smelly, deadly. It is just even kind of a nightmare to drive through. I don't want to walk through, or we're trying to attribute anything. so I just wanted to bring that up, and you want to put some thought in it, and I just have one other thing I don't know if this ever happened. I think the last meeting I I brought up that there were no parking meters, therefore no parking revenue where our business parks and pays for parking with our tour buses. But I would say that's probably only a 150 days out of the year. So we're losing parking revenue by not having parking leaders in that one

[92:06] stretch sounds I Law college. So you know, in like that we lose a lot of parking revenue. If you can see by the the numbers it would be great to get. you know. 190 days of potential parking especially. You know we've got a big football season coming up, and people are, You know we're just giving people pretty far there. I don't know if that's I'm looking at you just because I don't know what you're looking at in terms of you know who can make something like that happen. But I do feel like the district needs every penny that we can get, and we it would be awesome. And i'm. I'm hoping that when our business is for the use of those spaces

[93:01] goes into you can't see income bucket. I'm not sure. So our all of our on street program is a general fund program. So the money doesn't come directly to any of the fun. But it is part of our conversation with the general fund transfer, because we are. do want to be known as the partner benefits district. So, even though it's a general funding operation, it is good business practice, and yes. on street partner revenues within the districts that those revenues are just the utilization, the parking utilization figures in to the data that you know we're talking about. Those are fine spots. I I will bring up that with the Conference Center construction beginning, it pulled some like a 150 parking spots offline. which means that a lot of the same employees are actually not paying for parking at Cu. So there's no place to park. They're just going up to the hell and binder 3 spots. And so then I know for a fact that those are known stocks the people seek out. So

[94:15] bring up a very good point. Yeah, I think they were paid at least at one time. I'm not sure if something happened with the replacement project or what happened to. Those are not. Yeah. I think there was construction in that area, and maybe it happened around the time that the new district lighting was put in place. Got it. So this is. It's a cross from Little Red House there.

[95:09] and does anyone have anything else they want? Conference Center, you know, involve, anyway. But grand view are they tunneling under that? Are they playing pedestrian tunnel underneath? I'm not frustrated Also there is so. It's not in this part something happening there. That looks a lot. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be a big pain point. It's saying, there's no there's nothing plan. No pedestrian tunnel plan. I wonder what that is. It's as wide as what you would expect to be a pedestrian tunnel, and it's it's being short of right with what you would expect to be. Then eventually

[96:02] i'm do it. Oh. certainly no public that's happening to the west of the temporary bike lane. Yeah. In in broad what used to be Broadway right? The gift can see you right? They're putting it in for now they're going to bury it, and then they're going to be like hey? That's what I want it. We've got an account. No, we're going to probably send you a bytes to Council Members Minor and the mayor. as our just given interest express. If the Council Retreat and and the mayor's role, if they don't, they're not available for some reason.

[97:00] if you that's great. I used to adjourn the meeting at 5, 36, we have a second. I'm. Good. Thank you.