March 7, 2023 — University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:02] We are now reporting in roll call. roll call. Yes. Cheryl right, Bush Head Rock. Well not be able to attend and Andrew Schumer here. I will pass it over to our chair. Okay. Does anyone have any changes to the It's me. I did not see any changes that needed to happen. I can move to it for a minute. Second. Okay, you get that. You're very quiet down here. alright. Public participation. If we

[1:00] not, I don't not have any members of the public. I I check the attendees, Lisa on the If there's a so, not panelists, you can build. Yeah. So, Danica. Yes, since you don't know when we can allowed to speak. We have one member of the public here. It looks like so good to that's like Seagull. Correct. I'm going to be allowed to talk? No where we have we have Len. Now. when can you hear us? Yes. you can. Are you here for the public hearing, or do you have general comment, for you can't say the pu. What's the public hearing subject we are. We have a petition for property to be included in You can see you, too.

[2:00] Okay. and that's later. Correct. It's our next agenda. It's all right after the correct. Okay. So do you want me to speak now. I will leave it up to the chair. Yeah. yes, please. If you would speak now. Yeah, I have problems with the development of the Hill Hotel and the the taking of the traditional businesses on University Hill, which, I think add a lot of vitality to to downtown, and the whole of boulder. and the more that that hotels which, like the Hell Hotel and the conference center across the street, are right in the center of the busiest part of town is really hard on congestion.

[3:02] in spite of the fact that people maybe walking there's they're getting here, whether they're getting here on bus, whether they're getting here on uber whether they're getting here on a car and taking up space in in the Cajid parking lot under the Hail Hotel, and i'd like to know what a parking space cost to rent in boulder. and whether it's it's structured or or surface. That's something I think it's in this like incredibly important. I mean when Danica was talking about 2,206 pearl and and stok is developing that space into 45 units, and they want a parking reduction when there is not even a discussion of what it costs for the parking space in a concept review

[4:00] that's horrible, because scope continues doing their concept review as if nothing's happened, and there, and that's a huge part. That's a third of the cost of the rent. for example, at that site which is basically a glorified hotel, which means we don't need the Hill Hotel. Well, you know. Sorry we're stuck with it, you know, but I think it's it's a big drain on boulder's. Economy, it's not. It's not a a benefit. For example, 2,006 is 300 square foot units that have that are furnished with robotic furniture, so that you can stand to live in a space of 300 square feet, which is the size of a large hotel room. I mean 166 is the size of a spark parking space, 166 core feet

[5:01] and it's about the size of a hotel room, and yet it's advertised as the middle missing middle. which it's not because as soon as the as soon as it gets approved, and they get people in with the Ami of 80 to 120. Then it goes to market rate. and that's what hotels our market rate, but at least with a hotel. We get sales, tax revenue for the city at 2,206 pearl. We get property values elevated because that market value is going to go way up. and all you're doing is drawing more and more people to boulder. Landmarks are getting thrown away. There's another scope development for a landmark area, and well on walnut and 17. And then there's nothing to come here and see, except if you want to go to a tourist town to go look at hotels and at empty storefronts, like Arts and Crafts co-OP on the mall for

[6:03] for 3 years now empty. and and Gibbons white just sitting on it because they can. They can write it off and look at all that's happening to Boulder. As a result, all the people that Haven't visited it. and Haven't had something to attract them to that space. So i'm just saying for for the Hill Development. you know, please do anything you can to leave it alone to not turn it into another soulless space that has a huge effect on congesting all of boulder with the May one main out arterial going through town, Broadway. That's all I had to say. Thank you, LAN, for taking the time to attend the meeting and and voice your concerns is there. You had mentioned. You wanted to know what a parking spot costs. Are

[7:04] Are you asking for us to respond to that question? It's $897 a month for a caged spot. but that's just deduced from from what I could get from, You know, when you go and drive in there and and pay, and for a long stay it would be 897 bucks a month. But I want to know what officially what a real parking space costs in boulder for rent for rent. Well, I mean it'd be nice to know what the land value of it is. Also as a for sale. Item. you know, like I don't know that I'll be able to answer that question today, I can tell you. There is public lots and private lots, and

[8:08] as a as a business owner. We we definitely buy monthly parking for our staff, and it's in that 3 to 3, 50, a month per employee or monthly parking. Okay, yeah. that that helps. And I'd be curious what the land value is, and the thing is to it's between a surface spot and a structured spot. If you know what I mean. I do. I do. I just don't have that that information to give you right at this time. Yeah. just a reference of what we pay for the city implied that a surface space would be less expensive. But I can't believe that because the surface space takes up, then then you can't have any structures above it, you know. But anyway.

[9:09] well, thank you, Lynn. Is there anything else that you wanted to add? I guess i'd like to say that I I really think that what boulder needs to do more than anything is develop impact fee fees per per capita per person on any development in town. and they need to balance the jobs housing imbalance because it's It's to the point where you know. I don't know what it's going to cost to Redo the library, but probably 500,000 a 1 million. And who's paying for that for me? I'm paying. and it's because of the homelessness and the wealth and equity. And and the more

[10:00] this the dense development, the higher value of the land, the more wealth in equity, the more service. People have to come into boulder and can't afford to live here, and the more that the homelessness becomes a problem. I I definitely hear what what your concerns are. And again thank you for taking the time to attend the meeting. Sure. Thanks for running it. Yeah. No other members of the public correct consent agenda. Is there anything? Anyone? Thanks. Agenda on sunny financials? Anybody have any, I guess, unless there are questions. Does anybody have any questions about the financial.

[11:02] the public hearing, which is the district petition for inclusion of 100 and 55, plus Street, and aged all right. We do have the petition. Information is included your package. But we do have a a presentation for the folks who are watching virtually have the the context of what we're going to be discussing in this public hearing. I don't know that we're staying on for this, but we'll go through the presentation, and then we can have a public hearing and then move to a decision. I'm going to share my 3, all right. and i'm going to hand it over to It's been doing a lot of the work and the the Hill Hotel partners. On getting this petition across the line. I'm. As well, and in your commission practice, and we did receive a petition from the the hotel on their

[12:08] to position into the you to district in 2,021. We finalized the cell of the from the street law, and one of the parcels that it directly about to the current boundary of you. It is also included in how hotel developments, but for unknown reasons, excluded from that particular boundary. And so, as this transaction has transpired basically at this point, we have an inconsistent boundary. So i'll just still small. You can see it below the to the west of the boundary at the top. There so it's a 55,000 and so this petition helps address that in some boundary, so the current development does actually extend into. So, for a number of reasons just continuing the formal boundary of you, Jen, having a single tax rate for that from an assessment standpoint, creating a lot of it in terms of assessing the properties.

[13:10] this petition has been brought forward to look forward to things forward, and I think that just as I highlighted the the real purpose of the conclusion is to make sure that we're not by secting the actual development of the Health Hotel with the youed boundary, creating that ease of taxation and assessment, and then just more formalizing the of our relationship with this great partner with you, Jen, being able to look at those different strategies for working. And so it looks like it's a big, great opportunity for us to capitalize on the and just make sure there's right. As we gather today. The Commission has the opportunity to either grant the inclusion. It's modified or denied the petition, at which point

[14:07] you're able to make a motion to accept the petition, which will then go to the counsel for for formal approval. And so at this stage there was a resolution documented in the packet, and that's the action that we would be taking. So before we move into a motion, we need to see if there's anybody that's interested that wants to speak. As for public hearing. I can start sharing my over to attendees. Now it's yeah, but go to that. A lot of talk on then. when we're now moving into the public hearing for the petition or the Hill Hotel parcel. And so, if you would like to speak specifically on that item. Now, is your opportunity.

[15:03] Yeah, I haven't read the materials on the Hill Hill Hotel Petition. It is this. What kind of the document. Is that so? It's. It's. hey? You did University Hill. General Improvement district is what most of the hotel, as well as all of the commercial districts in. And what this petition is, there's a small parcel of the hotel that is, that what? Technically in the Channel improvement district? And so this is a formality to include that he, that small piece of the hotel into the University Hill General Improvement District.

[16:05] It's mainly for ease of assessing and and taxing the property as one unit as opposed to majority of the hotel, and then this one small piece, and if i'm not explaining it correctly. somebody else can jump in, but it. It is a formality to make a small part of the hotel included in the general Improvement district. Well, considering I'm. Opposed to the Hill hotel to start with. I guess i'd oppose it, but probably considering that you're going to continue it anyway. it it just wouldn't be part of the of you did, and it would have to be taxed differently. It probably cost more of my tax dollars to tax it individually, then

[17:02] as combined. So what whatever is most efficient for me, as the taxpayer is what I suggest you do. Unfortunately, it can't just undo this hotel, which I think is a disaster for boulder. But yeah. good. Thank you. Lynn. Yeah. Does anyone else have motion? Okay. Got it? That the that we recommend or accept the petition that set forth an exhibitor attachment to the it' be. Pack it. I can read that so, but it's attached to our package, so I would move that we accept it, and moving on to city council. My second

[18:03] All in favor. All right. Okay. Thank you. Commissioners. Thank you for your comments. Let's see matters from this that Thank you, madam. Chair. Oh, oh, thanks! Oh, I was seeing the but if you have something you want to know, I was gonna I was going to do the same debate. Hi, Jake. Hey, everyone! How's it going? Can you hear me? Yup. Yes. Okay. Great. Yeah. So I attach some updates that should be in the packet in front of you. So the main things I wanted to point out were that we have successfully launched our new website for the hill. and that's using the city light platform That downtown folder uses for their website.

[19:01] That's gone really Well, the we've already, I think. almost tripled our web traffic, and the sort of engagement. you know. The Google Search engagement has gone up, I think, 230. So just all really good metrics for this new website being way better for the hill than the you know kind of entry level alternative that we had previously. So that's that's really good. Along with that new website. We have a new blog which we haven't had before. So that's really good for kind of. you know, spotlighting local news, sharing stories about new businesses. We've got a handful of articles up there right now. more on the way. and then the new website also includes a business directory. That's way more comprehensive. It's got stuff like Happy hour information links to a website, and social media for each business links to articles in our blog articles on you know other websites

[20:07] so, and it has a map that will direct you towards other hill businesses so big improvement there as well in terms of. Did someone have a question. No. in terms of business, new businesses. We've got the ginger pig coming in the Dumpling Deli and the study tattoo. study, tattoo, lounge. and then the Chase Bank branch is closing. I just heard about that quick overview of a couple of projects we're working on right now. We're working with downtown boulder and the city on some signs that are hopefully going to go up around the hill Hotel site that will help with pedestrian and bike navigation around the hill to and from the hill should kind of direct towards local landmarks. Chautauqua to you campus.

[21:09] So that's that's going well. Also working with the city on a survey retail gaps. We've done it before. and then live from the hill we're hoping to bring back. We are going to bring back. Actually, we just were awarded a grant from Visit Boulder to to bring back some of our live music on the Hill Event Street, so that that's really good. We're also gonna try to bring back something that Sarah piloted a few years ago. Philanthropy, which was kind of like a. you know. clean up the hill initiative, trying to bring together students and neighbors. So we're gonna do a spring clean up, and i'm in conversation with some with Brenda from the neighborhood relations. And then Amanda Nagel from, or I guess, who's involved with the Hill revitalization working group. So spring clean up. He'll clean up in the spring, and we're going to work with Ifc on that as well. The inner Fraternity Council.

[22:14] I think that's all. Oh, and then we we're working on hopefully, getting a c dot. Grant to do some alley improvements. Regan and I are working on that. So those are my updates. Any questions, any thing you want more information on is something. Has there been any interest that you have heard for the Rosenberg space? I haven't heard anything about any interest or anything specifically about that space? No. Okay. Do we know what one of the in it's free spot? That's the other the other space the

[23:00] it doesn't. Look like it's retail? No, it's a restaurant. Oh, is it? I've heard. Yeah, All I heard was from Dakota about. And look at sign. Yeah, it's kind of a mad at our feeding some. but it's property owners the the the permit request came from a, the company called the Matt Hatter, so certainly some sort of just straight up, like great. Fully. I sell them more. But from what I can see through the keyhole, you know. Yeah, that's all I've heard. All I've heard was from Dakota. He thought it was a we'd speak easy called the Mad Hatter. so I don't know anything about that. I didn't know that was even a thing that was legal, but that's what I've heard. That would be consistent with my research of what the Mad had or is in other places where that had to resist. Okay. Okay, they must have worked as the licensing

[24:07] or yeah downtown is supposed to be a a cannabis lounge. But great, Thank you. When would the live live on the hill, start after the students depart for the summer? Not all the students. But would it be before after graduation? It would be after it would be starting after sometime in mid June. It's this is, you know, Permit dependent. We haven't. We don't have a permit for it yet, so we need about 3 months to do that. So it'd be late. June would start. Okay, Great thanks so much. Do you have any questions for us as conditioners?

[25:04] No, not at this time. Great Lori. Okay. So so i'm sorry. Call Assistant Vice Chancellor of Local Government and community engagement, and I'm here with Dana Paul. We're here this afternoon to talk a little bit about the Conference Center and hotel project, and so, just to clarify it, is on the University side. So the east side of Broadway, and you know ground breaking has just occurred. And so we're gonna talk a little bit about what's kind of going up the the you know, timeframe is that there'll be kind of soft opening in the spring of 2,025 and a then kind of you know, hoping for full of rooms is the the latter part of 25 that takes under way. So with that alternative Danica and then you know, certainly let this be kind of a a fluid conversation. If you have specific questions, we're happy to answer.

[26:13] Thanks, Lori. I do think I need the screen sharing functionality. Well, someone's working on that. I did also want to let you know. I'm not here to talk about the Hill Hotel, but that's obviously under construction, and there will be a topping out ceremony that I will share information on which will be exciting. All right. You should be able to share. That looks good. Now I just gotta find my screen. Seneca. What's what's popping up? Ceremony is that when the roof comes on, the one I've been to is super cool, it's. It was it, Macy's, and we actually signed a pink beam and the beam. There's a whole tradition behind it, the topping out. They put a tree on it, and

[27:08] it goes back a long time where you place this last beam in place, or the first beam in place. I don't know, and it's kind of the topping out. So it's a phase in construction celebration, it may seem it was a pink beam and honor of breast cancer awareness, but everybody got to sign the beam, and so it went into the building. I'm not sure how this one will be conducted, but it's kind of a fun way to celebrate. I tend to like them better than groundbreaking, because there's something to look at, and this one you get to actually see. You know the construction midway, which I know you're all very familiar with, as you see it every day, but it's a chance to get on site, so I will share information about that. Once I have it. Great thanks. Okay. Sorry. This date is, I thought I'd updated it. But as as you can tell, I've I've continued to share updates on this project. Let me just make sure this is the right one.

[28:08] It's not. Give me 1 s. There we go. Alright, that looks right. Sorry i'm a little frazzled. I think I typed in the text. My son got in trouble the high school, or, like you need to come, Get him now, and his phones taken away, and i'm like I cannot. So i'm sure some of you can relate. So I just wanted to give an update. There's really not a whole lot new, but I wanted to be available also for questions, so that I can hope I might be able to answer them in real time or get back to you. So, as everyone's familiar and Laurie just mentioned, we started construction

[29:09] on the Conference center, and here's the site plan at the corner of University and Grand View and Broadway. I think everyone here is pretty familiar with the layout of the site, the main function and the ballrooms being here closer to University Broadway, the entrance and valet off Thirteenth, and the parking garage here on the rear some site work has been started out there. I think. Some trees were removed. We're hoping that's an improving some of the site. Safety issues that we've experienced in the past. I love any feedback related to that. This is the zoom in of the Site Plan Retail Restaurant. Here lobby, lounge, lots of ballroom pre function, and back of house space.

[30:02] Here is the landscape plan. So the great public space that will be part of this and community gathering space out there on Broadway. And here's a little more information on the Pool terrace, where I plan to be sipping a cocktail hopefully. maybe not next summer, but hopefully, soon after. And here again is the lobby and ballroom space. These are renderings. I I believe some of you, if not most of you, have already seen these. They were updated about the end of last year. This is the view, looking to the mountains, obviously, and the courtyard space. This is looking back towards the hotel and the lobby, or the ballroom space. With this roll up garage door and kind of indoor outdoor space, and lots of really flexible outdoor space that can be used for functions, weddings, events, etc.

[31:00] I just saw Kamala Harris, vice President Kamala Harris yesterday in Ourvada, and i'm hoping that next time something like this happens in Colorado. It could be here, too. I could easily see something like that event taking place here. And is this the the most? This is the one that's on the site. This update this packet. Yeah. So nothing has been updated. You know the rendering. Stop getting finalize once you get into construction documents, which is where we are at. So I haven't heard of any changes. Lori. I don't know if you've heard of any. I think this is what's being built nice. Yeah, I even heard any additional updates. This is. Go ahead. Sorry. Who is that? Yes. yeah, I think it's actually, you know, kind of a spring open. So we'll be able to start s sipping the cocktails then. But I think, as far as you know, this kind of hotel strategy, I think the thought is

[32:14] to have, you know, a soft opening so that they can kind of work out the kinks, and then have you know it, a plan for kind of full capacity. A little bit later in the year Great Get another rendering view of the crosswalk there at Broadway and University, looking out back towards the hotel and the Ballroom Space Conference Center at night another view looking kind of straight on the project from across the street. And this is as you're looking up towards it at the kind of corner of Thirteenth and Grand View. You can see the the valet space here, or the drop off, and and then here's another view. Looking back to the northeast again. The corner space Here's a be cycle station. You can start to see that pool terrace up above.

[33:11] This is a good view of that drop off on Thirteenth Street, where you have this. You know the valet and the turnaround lobby drop off. and then this: if you were taking your car back to the garage, you would continue down Thirteenth Street. This is a rendering of the parking garage lit up at night. You can see the circulation and the entrance to the parking garage. Another view of the garage from the hotel rooms, as you would be looking directly to the north towards the kind of where the our freedom is, and towards downtown. This, I say, obviously has a lot of grade change to this rendering shows how that parking garage is kind of talk is brought down on the grade into the as it travels down towards the

[34:05] Sorry, as it travels down the hill, down the slope there, and then you can see the pocket park. So again, same updated, same schedule that I've been sharing it started. Construction is started, and it's estimated to end in middle of our Q. 2, 2025 grand opening summer of 2025 hinsel, Phelps contractor a lot of concern around safety Broadway impacts. We're trying to put updates on the website as we have them. And so I love any feedback on anything that you're hearing questions you have, I'll do my best to answer them. and if I can't answer them, I will get back to the group if I have any questions. The only question I have is the retail piece of relatively new, because before the retail section

[35:02] I I I guess it. That's a restaurant that retail space on that first on the First Level. but seems to be below the pool. Is that a restaurant? I think it's probably a hotel retail space, you know where you could. you know, buy something or buy like you know who I think of like the Saint Julian, or like the Spa? I don't think it's like a a third party retail, but it's put there so that it has the most visibility along the high traffic area. And then it looks, You know there's a cafe kind of coffee shop back here. Do you anticipate that there will. that there will be any long disruptions on Broadway, since the commercial district was pretty impacted

[36:04] as the Hill Hotel was being built. So just when the Hill Hotel opens, are we looking at in a Broadway impact again? Well, let me. I have a little lifeline here with gene culture. Who's, you know, managing the construction, the the the challenge with the hill hotels. We to put it in a brand new sewer line in the middle of Broadway, and that cause intense amount. That's a very atypical improvement. I don't believe there's anything, and I think at the most, we're probably shutting down one lane when the improvements along Broadway and Grand Viewer being done, but nothing to the extent that we saw with the Hill Hotel, and that, and there would also be a flagger on site as well. But I can get you. I'm she's looks like she's going to get back. I mean we're we're a little far off, but it's always good to anticipate.

[37:00] We're not have businesses in a panic that it will happen for any extended fury to jam absolutely. We definitely knew about the sewer line. I think it took longer and was a bigger project than any anybody hoped for. We do have a QR. Code on the sign on the and I can. I think it's on the website with. So people are walking by. They can scan the QR code and hopefully get updates, and we will try and keep that updated as much as possible. We're also streamlining all the Faqs and everything in one place. So but I will get back to you. and I think you know. Certainly this group is easy to do, so. We can do that. Okay, thanks. That's good. I just want to jump in for a moment, and some of you obviously have heard about concerns regarding them all the use path.

[38:03] And so we are working with tool consulting, which is a kind of bike and pedestrian safety, consulting firm on kind of looking more closely at that that path to identify opportunities to increase safety measures, and that kind of thing, and so more to come on that we but I wanted to let you know. Some of you were aware that we were looking at doing that, and that work is under way. Great. Sorry if you have any other questions. Alright. Thanks, Laurie. Thanks, Jenka. Alright, thanks. If I get a response on more details about Broadway. I'll just type them in the oh, 4, 11 to 8, 15. I will type them in the chat. It's coming in on my phone right now, so I will. I will send more information and we will update the website. Alright. Thank you. Thanks. Everyone. Bye bye.

[39:02] Hi. Alright, so curbside management update Here he is. Hi, Chris! Hi, there! Good evening. Let me share my screen, and then we'll begin our presentation all right. Can everybody see the slide. Yes. excellent. Thank you. So we are here today to provide an update on our progress on developing a comprehensive set of curbside management policies and practices for the city. Over the past several months the team has completed the flexible loading zone pilots and assembled the components of what eventually will make up our final deliverable for this project, and that is our curbside management implementation guidebook.

[40:00] This guidebook will serve as internal policy that will outline for city staff the procedures for making both proactive and reactive changes to the curb. And today we're looking for your feedback on some of these components of the guidebook that we're working on. Ultimately we plan on re returning to boards and commissions later this spring, and we'll be asking you as a as a commission to advise the city manager to use the guidebook to manage curbside uses in the public right of way. The reason for this procedure is that under the Border revised code. The authority to designate traffic operations and parking, including curbside uses, is granted to the city manager and then delegated to the city traffic engineer. So tonight we're checking in on our progress and developing that guidebook for us, and then seeking your feedback

[41:02] Also I am joined by by Carly Pipe, who is a consultant with fear and peers, and she'll be doing some of the presentation. But i'll just start off by giving you a bit of the project background. So curbside management is essentially the practice of designated curbside uses. The curb itself can be thought of as that side of the roadway or the sidewalk that is nearest to the curb. and and in general curbside management is really about planning and and managing how the curb is used by a variety of different users. The man. The management of the curve is really important. It's the front door to our destinations. It connects people to a multitude of different transportation options. and it's really it's one of our largest public resources. What we have really seen, especially during Covid and through. You know, some technological advances in changing in, in in the commerce and transportation we've seen a growing number of competing needs

[42:15] for the curb side. Think about the the increase in Amazon, ups deliveries. Think about during Covid the need to provide short term parking for people to quickly pick up things that they had ordered from a restaurant or something like that Uber and lyft a huge change in how people travel, and it's all about how both people and vehicles access the curb, and then ultimately, we want to see our curbside management policies and practices as contributing to our community goals around transportation and and climate. We have a number of different ways in which these the the project, and ultimately our curbside management policies and practices impact our city goals.

[43:07] For example, vision 0. We have goals in our city to reduce in a and ultimately eliminate serious and fatal injuries we have seen through, you know. Say, just take, for example, Uber, and lift rides a lot of unsafe behavior about the pick up and drop off as passengers right in the middle of the travel lane, not only risking the safety of individuals, but also delaying traffic, so that that comes in. and we certainly want to reduce traffic delay, since that contributes to increased greenhouse gas emissions. We are also through this project, developing a set of standard operating procedures for city staff to make government or more responsible to both the needs of our community, and to look at how we can use data to make some decisions. If we see areas that have significant violations or citations for double parking, we may think well do. We need to address some loading zone issues in this area.

[44:14] But ultimately, I think, and you know, probably in for this board. This is about economic vitality as well. We have seen how commerce has changed, how interactions between individuals and businesses have changed. And this is how we're adapting to this, to this new environment. The the curbside management program. And this project, you know, we see this as part of our our amp strategy, our access management, and parking strategy. We have many different gears that operate within amps. You know we've just recently updated a lot of our parking pricing performance based pricing our our residential permits. We're right in the middle of doing an evaluation of our Chautauqua access management plan, and those are all projects under amps. And then Amps is again another cog in the wheel. Of all of these

[45:09] documents that guide all of our city staff work from the Board of Comprehensive plan to our Transportation master Plan. With that I like to pass it over to Carly. Great thanks, Chris. So before launching into recommendations of how we're going to make changes to the curve, we did a thorough existing conditions, analysis and outreach to the community. So we collected quantitative data. We worked with cord to inventory all of the group space, the current designations and nuances of time of day, as well as utilization of parking, and all the the 3 managed districts. We also looked at how all these are allocated where loading is allowed, parking is allowed. and then we supplemented that with observations with qualitative data, understanding that those curbside designations are often not abide by there. There's a lot of non compliance to build off of what? What? Chris stated. We're seeing, loading, happening

[46:08] it through double parking. I saw one in the center turn lane of East Pearl the other day we're seeing bus stops being parked in by vehicles and bike lanes being used for parking. So we use those observations to capture. How kind of the latent demand, or where or how we're seeing a discrepancy between the designations, the curve and how the curve is used. We also did a thorough review of boulder revised code, and talked to a number of city staff to understand how the curb is changed today, and how it's codified into policy as well. so that snapshot of how the curb is used to be. In the 3 min districts we can see the majority of the curb is, for on street parking. So this varies. The snapshot is over the summer, so there are some more parklets than there are in the winter, but this gave us just a sense of of how the curb is used today, and we could kind of look at this compared to our vision that we established through this pro through this process of how do we want the curb to be used into the future? Given the value of this space.

[47:13] So the community engagement piece. We wanted to understand the community. How would they like to see the curve used? And how does that vary in different parts of the city? So we re reached out to the community through a number of different ways. We use intercept events Here we are in this photo at the farmers market, an online survey information through website and social media as well, and we had the opportunity for the community for community members to drop pins and lines to identify where they'd like to see changes in the curb. and this created a heat map To understand the different curve uses that the community envisions for the future. We also met with a a group called the Access Allies to the Stakeholder group, who kind of our experts in this space, and these were great touch points to understand through the project process, how different stakeholders use the curve. We also talk to different focus groups like transmission network companies, Amazon Fedex

[48:07] bicycle kind of proponents to the community cycles, as well as folks with disabilities to understand the barriers, to using the curb, and how they'd like to see these these curve distinctions being made into the future. So this is just one response from many of how the community wants to see the curb in downtown. So we ask this for the 3 different districts. So for University Hill there's a chart like this, too. The themes are very similar in that. They want to see more uses for activation. So that's trees, bike parking crossings, food, trucks. So, rather than the existing kind of doughnut or pie chart we saw of on street parking, you know more uses on the activation side. So we took all this information, and we developed a number of of different deliverable. So the first is a curve. Menu. So all the uses on the left and white our existing curve uses today that you're familiar with the 3. On the right are 3 new curb uses based off of our research and best practice peer reviews.

[49:08] and i'm hearing from the community. So the first is a flexible loading zone. So this will talk about in detail in a few sat slides, because we piloted this idea, so i'll cover the other 2 at a high level here. So the first is a public seeding parklet. So this is a little bit different than a private outdoor dining parklet. This one is not associated with a business. It provides an opportunity for that activation. We heard from the community for shade through trees, seating another place to just hang out and and drink a cup of coffee and then car share parking so currently. Car share. Parking is off street. So we are exploring the idea of bringing that on street to increase visibility, promote the goals of sustainability as well, and making multimodal options for community members. So we've done is kind of integrate these different curb uses into a typology. So we we classified all streets within the city of Bolt, or into categories based off of street classification in combination with land use. So we identified 5 different categories, and this help provide a framework. So what did the curb look like in these 5 different categories? Understanding that the curve is going to be different on a a street with single family homes, then a street in one of the manage to 6. That's filled with businesses and and vitality, and we want higher turnover of.

[50:26] So this is kind of the starting framework for our recommendations. Is this categorization of streets into different categories? So in the next slide. You can see how this manifested throughout the city. So in University Hill primarily have commercial centers, so that's kind of the the highest density of uses commercial uses where we want the highest turnover of spaces. So you'll see in the next slide how this is manifested as it compares to the different curb uses. So in a commercial center we're prioritizing access for people. So those pink uses are things like bike parking bus stops passenger pick up. So, never having a vehicle there for for more than

[51:07] 1015 min at the most. And then we've got access for commerce, so loading, whether that be private or or personal loading, commercial loading, so kind of capturing all the different pieces that that Chris mentioned we're seeing, especially as in the last few years, with Covid increased demand for these loading spaces, for for all uses and then activation, and then vehicle storage, just to provide contrast. And on the other side of the spectrum. A neighborhood avenue. That's a a street with more single family homes on it. The higher priority is going to be vehicle storage on those streets. So we're we're not being prescriptive. This is a framework to help identify what types of uses are higher priority, on what types of streets. And so this is just an example again, just a framework. But what this brings into is the fact that different blocks are going to interact with each other. So we understand that by changing the makeup of the curb on one block we're putting pressure. That demand is now can being displaced to the neighboring block. So we don't want to work block by block. But these recommendations are made by zone understanding the interaction between different uses. So we've categorized the city into various different combinations of types within the typology.

[52:18] and created a typical area for each of those different zonal areas. And so this framework will be used as changes to the curb are made to see where on a curb should different curb spaces go. For example, loading should be at the end of the curve. We also want to understand what is the proportion of the ratio of these different curb uses to each other? What percent of each block should be made up of each curve. So these typical areas help us understand and identify those different design considerations as well as ratios. And then qualitatively, what types of curb uses do we want to see more of in the future, and which do we want to see less of so for the community outreach, as well as all of our research and best practices, and in line with the goals that that Chris identified. We want to see an increase in access for people.

[53:04] commerce and place making as well, maybe at a slightly lower degree, and then a decrease in in vehicle, parking on street and promoting off street opportunities for vehicle parking. So I forgot to mention existing conditions. We looked at utilization of vehicle parking and off street structures, and see an opportunity to better utilize those structure, parking as well as surface parking lots. So the flexible loading that I mentioned it's a proposed new curve. Use so what this is is in the pilot. We identified it as 10 min. We're currently evaluating that amount of time to see what the appropriate time restriction is for the future. But it's a space for any type of loading, or any type of parking for a short term use. So this could be an Amazon vehicle to be you picking up your take out dinner or an online order. So the goal is to to have a higher productivity of the curve. So we were seeing passenger loading spaces and commercial loading spaces separate into these conditions with different peaks. So an opportunity to kind of pair those peaks in the a similar model as we we see with shared parking, so it's a shared loading model to better utilize and and have a higher productivity of the curve.

[54:16] So we also worked with Uber Ly to Geo fence and the transportation network companies app. So if you were to go to to book a ride, you would see those designated like spaces of where the flexible loading zones are, and both passengers and drivers are directed to those specific spaces to to pick up passengers with the goal of improving safety, reducing double parking and a lot of dangerous behaviors we observed during our qualitative data collection. Sorry to go back and forth, so we're currently evaluating the the pilot. So it just wrapped up. We've hours and hours of footage of camera data that we're synthesizing for again that quantitative and qualitative counting the the number of uses of of each of those flexible loading zones that dwell? Time, the dwell time per use. How long are delivery vehicles staying there? Versus how long are Tncs versus private vehicles dwelling in those spaces. We're also looking for those qualitative things like near misses from a a safety standpoint.

[55:13] the non-compliance so we're in in the depths of that. But on the next slide we do have some preliminary takeaways from the evaluation. So far, so far as as I mentioned, we're seeing that folks do need a little bit more than 10 min. So somewhere between 10 min and 30 min is the sweet spot that our analysis will identify. And it be a program at a time for these flexible learning zones we do see an offset of when commercial vehicles are using the zone versus private vehicles. So so in that sense that the pilot has been really successful Also, Still, seeing a look. a little bit of non-compliance, but a reduction to today's conditions and safety data is tough. It's a small sample size and challenges with data collection. So so far, the before and after of of collisions Hasn't revealed any any changes with with the pilot.

[56:04] So this is a a a lot of change. I think the the vision of these typical areas is is probably alarming, as we see a reduction of of on street vehicle parking. It's really important to understand that these changes are not going to be made out of months in in many cases they're reactive, and there's a process behind each change to the curb. So this is creating a long term vision with a a defined set of catalysts that are going to work towards that vision to ensure that the right uses are there based off of per. So we've identified those different catalyst for making changes to the curve into 4 different categories, and i'll walk through each of those individually. So the first of development. This follows well on the the last 2 items. So when there's a new development, we want to incorporate into that process consideration of what changes to the curve need to be made understanding that a new development or redevelopment is going to change the demand for the curb outside of that that development. So in in the case of conference center in the hotel. An increase of Uber lift is is very likely, so we're going to want a higher turnover of spaces fewer, if if any, on street long term parking spaces

[57:18] adjacent to those uses. So this is a lot about process, and making sure that the material that we've reviewed in the previous slides is is applied and used as the development review process takes place. The next titles for a change to the curb is looking at capital projects, so large cord or plans. It starts at an early stage when the the corridor is being studied and planned, that uses to the curb are considered as a part of that planning process, and then that moves forward through design and implementation as well. So there's a cost, efficiency and incorporating changes to the curve along with major capital projects. So we want to make sure to to kind of document and formalize this process.

[58:01] Sorry. and then the next one. This is on the proactive side. So what can the city do to monitor performance measures in order to identify? What are those key blocks for those key spaces where we need to make a change to the curve based off of a number of different factors. So those factors are crashes. If there's a block or a part of a block where there are a high number of collisions due to curb related activity. That is, a trigger to city staff, to evaluate and apply the the material presented to see that that may be the the curve isn't allocated appropriately, and there are safety implications to that. The next is is resident. Complaints, community member complaints as well as citation. So a mismatch of supply and demand, and and thus seeing kind of those those complaints or or citations, and then utilization, so either over under utilization, is also another sign that there's a mismatch of supply and demand and a need to assess making changes to the curve.

[59:03] and then, lastly, reactive changes. So when a business request, a change to the curb space outside of their business or resonant requests, is request to change the curb space, the current process to make that change Isn't necessarily standardized or consistent, or even transparent. So we had lots of conversations with city staff to talk about for each different curb. Use what is the process today? And we've taken what works well, but we've also applied the changes that were recommended as well as our research to understand where we want to kind of provide better guidance for those those changes. So for every curve use in the curve menu, we've created one of these cut sheets that you can see here. This one's for accessible parking. So it's a flow chart for city staff to use to help kind of guide their decision making process as to whether they say they allow that change being requested by the business, or they do not allow it so consideration for an Ada space would be the slope of the street

[60:03] number of other Ada spaces in the area. And so this process, these flow charts incorporate a subjective element as well. So for the score that you come out to at the end. There's an element of of subjectivity kind of incorporated into into this decision, making framework So on the implementation side there for every curb use as well, we've developed a cut sheet, so these are design considerations. How long should that curve space be? What is the appropriate material type? How much is it going to cost both for implementation as well as operation and maintenance? And that's not just a dollar value. That's staff time as well. So important considerations for the resources to make sure these fit within city budgets. So each curve use. This will be an important guide for city staff to use as they make these changes and implement changes to the curve. And then how do we prioritize implementation. So we have the the framework here. So on the the proactive side. It's going to be in commercial areas first. So this is where we're seeing the highest need for higher turnover spaces from what exists today, and then it's looking at specific curb uses so flexible. Loading zones have been highly successful. We've had the opportunity to pilot that pilot them and see that success.

[61:24] The so implementing flexible loading zones across the city is is going to be a higher priority. Out of that curve Menu Other loading types, like passenger and goods loading as well, are higher priority, and then thinking about those different performance measures in the proactive space. So those curves that are that score highly in those different performance measures will rise to the top. and then on the reactive side. That is, you know, applying the tools and continuing to respond to requests, but also educating businesses and stakeholders. That this these processes exist as well as city staff about how to apply these different frameworks. So it'll be important to evaluate to continue to collect data as changes to the curve are made similar to what we're doing with the pilot project now understand before and after changes to to different conditions, to make sure that we're, you know, moving forward with the goals of the city, and continuing to tweak as these changes are made. And then the important piece is communicating effectively to the public, so that they're aware when changes are made that we're providing the appropriate kind of communication medium. So this was recently done

[62:28] with changes to parking, pricing, so a similar approach to ensure that there's transparency and awareness from the community standpoint. As changes, the curb are made, and then future technologies so curb, space is constantly changing. Transportation is constantly changing. So we've provided a a a great snapshot in time today, and kind of our sense of where the future of the curve is going, and ways to monitor and force price the curb. But it's important for the city to kind of stay up on these technologies and best practices. And then, of course, kind of working with you all, as any changes are made, and consulting on curbside changes in in all 3 districts before the designation of the implementation

[63:11] before any changes are made. Following the designation of the implementation, the guidebook as city policy. So we'll definitely be in communication, as as you just the curb are being considered before they are made. so i'll hands it over to Chris for a couple of other slides. Yeah, Well, thank you, Carly, and we'll have time for any questions, of course, at the end. But I just wanted to share with you what those, what our next steps are. So, following our our meetings. We've already had a meeting with our Transportation Advisory Board. We have our downtown Management Commission coming up and also sharing some information with Boulder Junction. Those are all happening in this month. In April we'll be submitting to City council and information packet that will provide an update on our implementation guidebook along with any input and feedback from our boards and commissions.

[64:08] Following, then some refinement of of the guidebook based on that, input we'll probably be returning to our our boards and commissions in May, and this is where we'll be providing a staff recommendation on overall policies and practices that are contained in that guidebook. We'll be going to tab in June, and then we'll be looking for Tab to recommend to the city manager to use this guidebook in the future as city policy under the authority of the city manager rules, and then performed by our principal traffic engineer following our meeting with city Council in June, which will well actually be an information packet to them. We'll be working the rest of the the time on this project and updating any ordinances that would need to be change, and maybe even some updates on the language in those city manager rules

[65:06] that give the authority of of these changes to the principal traffic engineer. And so with that we'd like to just open it up for your feedback. and I could. I can unshare the screen if you want to see all, see each other. That would be the best thing to do. Thank you. Yeah. A lot of work has been going into this project. It's like to speak up with feedback at this point. I I guess, for me, for the commercial district on the hill. I guess it is that there would be significant number of changes in the way.

[66:08] The curbs are used, particularly with commercial delivery and uber and lyft that I mean, that's we don't have a lot of space to work with, but those are kind of pain points for safety and access for the businesses. I like that. You moved away from the 10 min time period, because most deliveries not most. I'd say half half of the deliveries that that I have seen have required more than 10 min. So that's I think that's got it.

[67:00] I was happy to see that change. Yeah. And now we have actual data to back that. Yeah. hey, Any feedback I had a question on. If I saw that there was a discussion of a a non. You know of parklets that are not assigned to businesses. and that how are you deciding where those go and what the need of those are, for we can obviously, especially on the hill. There's a public spaces tend to get, you know. Get either answer or other kinds of things might happen there, and and I think there's some concern about that. So how how is how it's deciding where those might occur. How is that taking place? Or, if they're needed, we have so few parking spots to work with. Yeah, I can start because there's something you want to add. So it's both looking at the need for that additional public space, green space, as well as the opportunity, cost of kind of what would be replaced in that process. So to the point of of

[68:12] kind of parking utilization of parking is extremely highly utilized. It's which we consider 85% utilized or above. Then the the trade off is high, so it would be less likely to implement a public seeding parklet in places where there are a lot of empty parking spaces and and kind of. There's an opportunity to turn some over, then a public seating purpose considered. If there is a lack of of public seating, a lack of green space, not a park nearby, not a private dining parklet nearby, so it kind of in the scenario under which there there is parking available to be turned over for for this public seating park. But those considerations fall under kind of tree canopy coverage, other spaces nearby for for green space. The need for activation in that area.

[69:01] Yeah, yeah. no, I I I think our our district is I mean, we get our funding from parking revenue to do these park. Let's take that opportunity for revenue out of the mix. Yeah, that's a great question. So we're doing a monetization of the curb analysis, because traditionally builder and and almost all other cities only charge for parking. So we're kind of understanding that the curb has value. What other curb uses have opportunity to generate revenue as well. So maybe that comes from a permit fee a one time. Permit free for a business and a private dining Parklet, considering, charging for loading as well. This is something that a number of other cities do, that we had interviews with, and did peer reviews for so kind of looking at charging for for access to the curb for loading commercial loading vehicles as well. A public seating park that's a little bit unique. I don't know if folks have experienced those in San Francisco is the one example I know where they're sponsored by a business, so there's still an opportunity to generate revenue through them. It's an opportunity for advertisement for that business, even though it's it's a public space.

[70:09] Just one comment on the having loading be it a cost that would only be passed along to the business through. You know the same way that the the gas fee, the you know, all all of these things are ultimately passed along to the business. So I would say for our district. I would never support something like that, because it's essential to the businesses to function and just increase their their costs. That's helpful, and that's consistent with what we heard from downtown as well. And so this is not a recommendation. It's a research exploration, and just a a kind of state of the the practice in some other places that are being piloted, but not a recommendation. As part of this effort. But I appreciate that that feedback helpful.

[71:11] Yeah, yeah. And I and I just follow up with that. I mean, you know, at this point in the when we finish the implementation guide book and and provide that monetization is, is not going to be in a staff. Recommendation is really looking forward into the future to see we are currently monitoring some of the practices that are being used. The city of Aspen is currently doing a a project where they monitor. They've monetized the curb, and due to that really high demand of their loading zones, They actually require delivery vehicles to make reservations, you know, through like an online app system, to preserve a loading space because they have so much demand. and then they they use the fee to offset the cost of having, you know, to manage that area. So, but we are just looking at it. You know. We've heard loud and clear from from other commissions that that monetization is not not something that they would recommend that the city pursue at this time.

[72:16] and I, I have one final piece of of feedback. University Hill Commercial district is probably at one of its lowest points. So I would definitely. Since you're looking at, you know parking use. We are hoping that the district will improve, and we will need all of the spots all of the time. So please don't use current parking usage to determine what our our needs will be in the future, because we're hoping to attract attract people. However they can't come to the hill. But just because they may not be, they may not be, is now on a regular basis. It's just because people are not coming to the hill, because the hill is not in a great place right now.

[73:16] Commercial district. No, and and thank you. And and certainly, you know, we'll take that into account. And you know we'll always be continually collecting data to monitor this situation, and you know, and any curbside designation changes that the city is looking at. We will definitely bring to the Commission and get your input. we understand. You know, the economic vitality needs of the of the district, and and Don't want to certainly disrupt anything you know. So we'll we'll always take everything to to this commission for your input before making any changes to group side uses. All right. Thank you. Anybody else have anything to add. I think the the south side of Pennsylvania is already taken away, or the event street

[74:05] so just to know that that was already done when your factory, then sort of the public spaces and those kinds of things, in case that that there was a lag time between that happening and the new sort of that that was actually already done. Alright. Thank you so much. Alright. Well, thank you for your time. All right, Take care of Rig, and I think you are up next with the signage of David. Oh, no, no. Oh, yeah, You're the you, the tap, Grant. Lisa, can you? I promise My presentation is not as thorough as Christmas was very short.

[75:05] Your attendees okay. and then they cost Okay. there we go. So I just wanted to give the Commission a bit of a heads up. A project that we're currently working on is to modernize some of our outdated on street signage infrastructure across the city. So you'll be seeing changes to some of the signs and the side posts, and on the hill coming shortly in the

[76:02] in the year to to come. And this is what the new science will look like. Really, this is all I have to share with you. It's just to let you know that you're going to be seeing these changes. We're going to be making everything look a lot nicer. We Haven't updated a lot of this infrastructure in a very long time. So we're really looking forward to cleaning the signage of making it really nice and new, and updating the polls of host structures that we can easily change it out in the future if we ever need to make changes to signage. And hopefully, this will address some of the areas where maybe we're not seeing revenue because signage isn't clear. Yeah, I think actually really surprising to me. Yeah, we're we're gonna make sure that the signs are placed appropriately. A lot of the old signs for just kind of by convenience. Wherever we removed an old single head we put a sign. There we're approaching this from a much more strategic place this time around, so that we make sure that there the signs are placed in the appropriate places as well.

[77:04] That's wonderful. One thing I also know that now that we have the new touch screen pay stations. We're trying to get a little rid of as much of the text. Clutter that you see on a lot of our sides today and rely on the pay stations to convey information about different areas as well Do a lot of people not have licenses on their license plates on their cars. Well, they do. They just will walk away from the car and then realize oh, I forgot my license and then walk back. So if we put it on the signage hopefully, people will remember to either take a picture or something, and then they can go to the kiosk and pay, and it'll save them a little bit of a headache. So, and these lovely pop signs. Those will be located wherever the pay stations are, so it'll be a big sign, and you know that's where you need to walk to. So, hey for your

[78:01] and that's it. and that's not way Finding to find parking got it. No, this is. This is just the signage sort of the informational signage, so that folks know how how to pay, and that there it is paid parking. So you'll also see on these posts, and it signs a picture. But the Park mobile signs will still be as they have the phone numbers so that and those actually, we're gonna be updating those Park mobile signs as well, so they'll have a little QR. Code so you can scan it. It'll just make everything more consistent across the city, because right now there's like all these different iterations of parking science from across the years and posts. We're just gonna start with the same slate. So yeah, and this is going to changing over the course of the year. Yes, we're hoping to complete the project this year, and I think right now we're hoping to get to the hill around June.

[79:01] you know, depending on how things go and maintenance, and actually installing the signs that might change. But that's what we're targeting right now. Okay? Oh. okay. hey, Jess. I'm: Sorry. Sorry I can't be there in person with you all started feeling a little under the weather this afternoon. but happy to give an update on u alli tap. Am I correct? That it was announced during the last meeting that we were awarded the great opportunity. Yes. great. So I can just talk verbally quickly about next steps. So just to recap what that means we will be working with a group of volunteers with you, alli expertise, to help us work through some of these district wide challenges that we're seeing on the hill. and to have them address recommendations. Address these district wide challenges through recommendations that seek to redevelop the Fourteenth Street Street lock

[80:08] to go. Yeah, do you run down what what you're looking at is district wide challenges? Yeah, we were looking at business retention issues. We're looking at some of the connectivity challenges on the hill. We're considering some of the new developments that are coming online, and what impact that will have. What if I, missing safety issues are a priority that we want to address. So these are some of the district wide challenges, and these are all laid out in the application which I think you guys have, and i'm happy to send it to you again. No, i'm sure I have it. I just wanted to clarify what they were on the same page with the challenges. Yeah, absolutely. So regarding next steps, I'm working on putting together an advanced packet for the panel so that they can familiarize themselves with the hill, and with this project.

[81:09] and in that packet it will include historical context studies, maps, demographic and economic data challenges. I mean context on the challenges that we see today. zoning and regulatory barriers, etc., and then also putting together a stakeholder list, they will be conducting stakeholder interviews as part of the process. And lastly, the most recent update that I received from the Alli is that they're working on finalizing the boulder schedule. So we'll know more soon about when we're going to be having a kickoff meeting. and then ultimately convening with the tab which we anticipate to be in the spring happy to answer any other questions. How long will it process when When do you expect the process to be

[82:02] based on? I heard from you all I we should be having the kick off meeting likely this month, and then the convening with the tab. It's a one and a half day total convening, which will consist of different activities, and that will likely be in the spring. And then, following that convening, they will provide a presentation and then recommendations for us. and then we'll be using that and all the other work that's been going on in around Fourteenth Street and updates things that have been changing on the help from the landscape improvements that we've been working on to prepare an information item for council. We've promised in by the end of Q. 2 or early Q. 3, getting an information line and put together. We anticipate that the preparation of that information item is going to trigger a study session. We house specifically around University Hill. We do that, J. As I have that they're

[83:03] meeting to get 20 years worth of knowledge for the safety piece. Will they have the opportunity to see the Hill commercial district in full swing on a Friday or Saturday night, and how it impacts the commercial district. Because if if safety is truly, you know one of the challenges that they're going to make a recommendation on. I would I would like to recommend that they at least see the hell in action before the students depart on a weekend. Nice weekend I I just feel like if we're if we're accepting recommendations that I would love them to be as informed as possible on something is

[84:03] important as safety. Yeah. I mean, we'll definitely take that into consideration. A tour of the Hill district, I believe, as part of is one of those activities that'll be part of that convening. I don't know if there are any restrictions around day or time, but it's something that we absolutely can consider if we can make that tour impactful. That would be. I think you were about to say something, but to ask Charlie for the for the staff, cause we've had. You know we've scheduled in on different other hill groups. you know, meetings at, you know observations Sometimes the timing wasn't ideal. What are you suggesting might be the best time for for someone to observe in a perfect world, knowing that the time issue my time is here. you know, not not knowing what that day and a half period is like. I I would love to see.

[85:09] I mean, we know when the hill gets going, and it depends on maybe, how great the weather is. Sometimes it can be in the afternoon. Sometimes it can be in the evening. so by you know It's it's hard to say, but just walking. taking a quick tour down Thirteenth Street and College Avenue. I don't think it's going to provide a perspective there. you know it could be a a lost chance to gain perspective on the scope of the the issues. Well, with the timing be of the interviews.

[86:01] and would that provide an opportunity for this dialogue to occur that might say, You know your meeting is now we know your meeting is on Day X. And in that dialogue, you know, it might be useful, if not the entire group. But maybe one of you at least could see, you know. Come down 10 Pm. Tonight, or whether it's 8 8 Pm. Or whatever, you know, etc., so that we can, you know, maybe get the input of some of the commercial calls to help this help. The Ui staff. you know. See everything right? Yeah, these are all questions i'm happy to ask during the kickoff meeting as well, and get you all eyes perspective. not only on timing, but on the best way to sort of approach some of these issues and make it so that the panel really understands what we're dealing with here.

[87:00] would I? I'm just trying to think outside of the box here a little bit. But if we interviewed did very short interviews with stakeholders that could he shown to the group the panel. like, say, Lisa could have for 2 min about her experience, and the impact Not Lisa, your wife. But you know we still Lisa Nelson. I'm. I'm just trying to figure out how we can give them a more well rounded experience of the hill without without them having the time to get that. Yeah. just trying to think of of ways that because it's it's, you know.

[88:00] Well, that's an important asset for us. And to have a a group. Yeah, a a group of experts I here. But on a both of their day and a day and a half is going to be a series of focus group meetings with different stakeholder groups. The timing it would be, I think, Our request of that would be that, hey? If your timing can be more oriented toward a Thursday Friday, something you know I may be asking me impossible, but I would at least love it to be considered. Yeah. it's 90 By the is it possible that the city, the City Channel 8 could. if if you know. I'm on the recommendation one night and film. maybe 10 min, or a, or a walking path, or something like that that might be shared. The the city's got those resources already. I don't know if that's possible, you know. I think you get into permission.

[89:04] Permission issues there which I would think the city might be sensitive to. There's maybe some historic footage. We can take this to the our stool Buffs Instagram Page. Yeah, it's. I mean, I I I mean. I don't want to be the dead horse I just want. I feel like we don't. You know we we have. I think. a a small period of time, with one final asset, with a a group that they are, may not have an understanding, and they are being asked to present recommendations for an asset of ours, even though we don't.

[90:00] and we need them to have the clearest view possible. so that so that the recommendations are meaningful. We've had a a ton of experts. They they have to be meaningful and have an out, you know, have the opportunity to have success. Yeah, absolutely. I think we want to be a strategic as possible approaching this work. I'm wondering. I guess, just thinking out loud. Do we want to possibly invite someone from the police department to come and speak to the tap once to the panel once we do convene with them, just to speak to crime statistics and what not get their perspective. I mean, I think. Did it sound like you? You know it is fine, but I I think, absorbing the 5 and the feel is, is.

[91:08] and to understand the difference between the 2 and what goes on cause it. It's like you said on a Tuesday. It's very football game day things like that. But I just wanted to make sure that we're making the most of this opportunity, and that it's it's it provides accuracy. So otherwise we're not solving a problem. If we're not presenting it accurately. Yeah, definitely. And safety is something we can emphasize in the advanced packet as well. Okay.

[92:00] Anybody else, you can tell. I get worked up that one more. Do you have any questions for us? Not at this moment. Okay. And the stakeholders and food businesses and property owners in the commercial district. Okay. alright. This is quick. I mean, do we? Are we part of this? Can we be part of this? Yes, so we will. Probably we'll need to make sure that you're not all showing up together, because it is substance. But yeah, you'll certainly you're your major stakeholder conversation for historic information, this 2,001 study that might be interesting for them to understand the breadth. Oh, that's all right. That that some of these problems have existed.

[93:02] Yeah, absolutely all right. Thank you. Hope you feel better. Thank you. You know so many people are going down. So this next item that's under matters from commissioners. It's a hold over from the last time that we got together, so i'm not sure. I want to send any more time discussing all sort of revenue streams. I did want to share that. We are certainly thinking about what we can be doing on the staff side. One of the more significant opportunities is the deep brewing conversations. So there's taber restrictions on the that have led to some reductions from what they could be. So without going to a vote of the the taxpayers. If we're able to de Bruce

[94:06] the current, no levy that could lead to some additional revenues for the district, we're also working through our, of course, deeper you might require about there is there's still a real component, but not asking for for higher taxes. It's more asking for. So some other things that we're also looking at acknowledging that parking revenues are going up. and most covid through our budget process, and planning for 2,024 will be lobbying for an increase in the general fund. Transfer into the district, recognizing that it is producing more revenue for the city. Those are some so 2 key strategies that we're going to be presenting on that side that are very administrative, and so hopefully be able to break some more

[95:08] positive things. And and well. You saw the timeline on the addition of the the parcel. That's not. It's not going to generate a ton more money for the district, but we hear you, and in and even the Fourteenth Street conversation, you want to make sure that that as we leverage that parcel, that part of that is making sure that it continues to fulfill the true purpose of the Gid, providing access that generates revenue, so that we are in a in a that are on the cycle for the district. Good! It's not on this issue, but it's one of the That's right. That's just just to check on that. You can see you know whether we've got There's one

[96:02] so yes, we did have one applicant, Mark Heinrich then has withdrawn his application, but nominated Oh, it it is the co-owner of Chris. Is he making his brother? I don't know if it was his brother, but unfortunately it was it was after the application process close. I'm not sure how the clerk's office is going to handle that, because he went through it, and he decided he was over, extended it, wanted to to drawn some fresh blood, new energy. and Canada as well. It sounds like, from what I read in the pocket that Council is considering. Reopening the application in May

[97:05] there would be 2 spots, because you're routing off. I'm rotating off, and we've got an opening, but the open one already. That's right. The case is is been. they can take a while. and then you're opening off as of after this meeting, really. which I will, if if we don't ever have a form of I. You know I would stay, although it might be good for me to step down his chair. since the link by my term it's technically over. you know. That might be something to look at. I do have somebody on my team to doesn't live on the hill doesn't that lives in the city.

[98:01] and she is our Vp. Of finance and accounting, and she is looking to get more involved. So she's involved with You know. What have I think she could, because you serve as a property on her representative. So, as soon as we learn more from the clerk's office on reopening applications. and I will make sure that those books have an opportunity. It would be great to have somebody who's got some real buy in a call of yeah for sure. And the other key consideration is Cheryl, or to the office we are required to have at least one female and a member of the Commission. So that's something to be thinking about as well. So there are 2 spots.

[99:02] So there we go. It's the same nominated managers help us don't sound neither of those sound familiar. But oh. that communication went directly to the Council. We'll follow up with Mark. It would. It's reopened, because yeah. certainly wanna they can. Okay. I think does anybody have any of their items? Questions. Okay. I was thinking when I was thinking back to the the hotel, not the

[100:02] This is just basic question I never really asked. University does or does not. I mean, I know it's not part of our district. If they collect city tax, they don't go any. So the new conference in our hotel. That is that okay? Other than foot traffic through sales tax? Right? So sales tax, there will be accommodations tax. So there's it's not. It's not on State land, and it is a private operation. So there there is a sales tax component to work, but they're not. They don't pay property taxes, so that clearly it happened to the as well, right? Yeah. as well. But I've used that as leverage for us, like for support for the Hel ambassadors, right? So it sounds like the University yeah universities coming to the table With what? Seventy-

[101:07] the ambassadors is there something else to? No, no, I just have My, we are. We're also working with them on some fall activations in the of that street, so they might be interested in doing some away game watch parties on the hill with using their lot as the area where you watch the game and the events stream, possibly partnering with the city on a beer garden or something like that. So they're off. Campus. Student housing is really interested in something like that that happen because they're anticipating a lot more interested in football. Yes, I think there will be, and we want to bring that energy to that. What is? I was just throwing in that the last comment on the chat about Cal. Well.

[102:00] in previous ever on you can see almost all that was the previous. And here's he was a day he's a a I think he's. I I mentioned to him. I think he's interested. That's another possible option. Yeah. And just to note to go back April eleventh, through August, fifteenth, Broadway. The east plane on Broadway, northbound, will be closed April eleventh, through August, the and we build a new my turn line on the temporary bike thing will be located just east of the existing by. So that will be awesome. Yeah. Would you like an extra? I have? I don't know maybe city council by right. Well, did they think about this when they made the decision around the whole?

[103:08] But thank you. So I move to a you on the meeting. Second. Okay, but I I do it. We don't have to put it on nature in the meeting, or I think it is from Harvard School. I did look at that, but some information just does not stay in my bridge. All right, thanks a lot.