August 11, 2022 — Police Oversight Panel Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:03] Alright, so welcome to the August 2022 boulder police oversight panel meeting. And the wonderful people on the panel, who are here today, I don't believe we have any members of the public online right now, or the press. But if they go on, we will direct them to use the Q amp a function throughout the meeting and if either Daniel or I get distracted during the meeting at any point if one of you guys if we have anyone jump on can make sure to. watch the Q amp a box would be great. And I will start with reading overland acknowledgement, we acknowledge the arapaho youth in cheyenne tribes traditional custodians of the land on which the police oversight panel and boulder police department operate and pay our respects to their elders past and present. And in terms of our agenda for this evening, we will start with approval of the last month's meeting committee reports panel retreat feedback and takeaways.

[1:10] The August 25 viewing of the documentary film, this is not we are Nicole conference deciding on who will be going from the panel. panel number application and selection process monitors report joey i'll let you do all the sub parts, while others report panel selection of pieces to review and public comments so first of all, we need to vote on approving the July. Meetings notes has ever had a chance to review the Minutes and great So can I have a vote to approve of July 2022 meeting notes show hands. I second do we need to say in order. To do it, I don't know if we just do it, I have no idea.

[2:00] I think we can just do it in accordance with our bylaws we didn't make any parliamentary yeah. I don't need emotion okay. Great yeah you can just call her vote and then we go and I think we can do that just about on anything. Oh, my love that okay well that makes sense here. So he's here to. I was like he's in favor of it too. yeah I. Really really like. All right, alright show of hands. Here, she go. Okay, so we're good to go thanks Sarah meeting notes are a proof, and so we will go into committee reports i'm going to start actually with governance with us oh sorry, and then I will look to you should know to to join us. Okay, so um we mainly just went over um. First last month's meetings and then we're kind of working through just preliminary draft, still have a couple of.

[3:07] items that have been brought forward to governance so specifically 2.4 of the bylaws which is orientation and training 4.1 F, which is complaint procedures for the like if somebody has a complaint regarding panelists. 5.1 which is communications process external communications from the panel to. Whoever that may be. And then also 3.1 D, which is our regular monthly meeting procedures, a standard boilerplate template for our agendas procedure for requesting items to be added to the agenda, and then also a procedure for commenting during public meetings. And then, our timeliness for case reviews in terms of how quickly were committing to getting the case reviews being done that section four point to see and then finally 3.2 which was other meetings.

[4:12] we're still working through the guiding principles, our hope is to plan a meeting for everyone to come together and kind of work through some of those some of that language. And then we didn't have. Any. We didn't have a member of the public, but there was no public comment. We are down to two Members at this point so if there is anyone that is interested in joining governance, let us know or otherwise, we can also you know we're hopefully getting new meet new people so that we'll we'll see which Wednesday when I joined so that's where we are. Also in that house, I just want to know, even though I am not coming to meetings any longer just because of also trying to focus on.

[5:00] Recruitment that if you and Martha have things that you need help on with review right whether that's writing something drafting something or just editing still more than happy to be a resource for that, I would say just give me a little bit more lead time. But definitely like in the interim period, well, I know because you guys are the committee that's down so definitely feel free to still use me as a resource I don't want it to feel like you're totally left on your. Show I appreciate that Thank you. So let's go to legacy I haven't heard back from patient. With legacy. We have met we kind of. got a more solid. plan together about the data we wanted to pull and then joey went to the data person and we got a data dump today i've not looked at it, but it does exist, so yay.

[6:02] i'm hoping to be able to review it and turn out a little something, but I think we're going to be just like unpacking it if the next meeting, which I have done as the 25th is that what everybody has. Okay yeah the 25th. And we did talk about maybe starting to invite. Maybe like past Task Force members to. Those meetings, just to get some more perspective and. Really hone in on and some of those critical features that. would build a legacy. So that was pretty neat. But that's all you have so far. I could give some quick highlights on the data, if you want me to do that, from that email that I sent y'all but we don't have to get into that if you if you're not ready to go into that but.

[7:03] Now i'm excited to hear about it, I when I arrived, I was like oh yeah but I had just. it's always. exciting when you get the data in that you've been waiting for give me just a second and pull that email up. So the data we received his from is covers January 2022 through mid July 2022 so the most of the year that has occurred so far. There were a. Total of exactly 100 individuals contacted 100 juveniles contacted during that period, which is makes it very convenient for data calculations, to have a nice round number like that, and a juvenile was is considered anyone under 18 years old, at this point.

[8:02] so out of those 100 individuals contacted they were seven arrests everything else were citations. Of those arrests three of them were for warrants four of them were based on probable cause that was observed by the officer. That essentially a 7% arrest rate and the rest were citations generally for traffic violations. The demographics 72% male 28% female approximately 52% white 48% latinx with one black male. In this population. Seven people arrested were white and latinx mostly male one was female and there were no uses a force that occurred in any of these 100 incidents in this year in.

[9:07] January 2022 to July 2022 so that's essentially what I could pull out very quickly today just from the spreadsheet. The committee will continue reviewing it and thinking about it and thinking sort of sort of trying to understand what the best way to go about the rest of this review or this study would be but i'm excited we got the data. Sorry didn't mean it took so long, I just wanted to let you know that we got some interesting stuff. Still, so what one of the things that I want us to see is because we just got a snapshot for a year, so. But over our row and later see where it comes in, we gotta look at trends, I want to see how far this goes in terms of the data, how many years can we get so that we build a story, then we can make comparison what's going on just one year it's a good start, but right.

[10:11] I think we need six months. what's that Martha. Six months. It says yes six I guess six and a half months yeah. Man yeah that's usually exactly what we do Chico we start with a small little taste of the data like this to kind of get a sense of it and then. figure out what's your deeper questions are and then do a larger data sample to see that exact trend that you're talking about, so I think that's exactly the plan. Okay, so on I haven't heard back from Asia so i'm going to have us move on and if I do, are you guys okay if we come back to her for a brief update later in the meeting just got my have to be able to hear from her and, if not. We can ask her just do a an email summary of what's been going on but um next on the agenda is panel retreat feedback and takeaways and I will just say there is supposed to be a survey from me that hasn't happened with my move and starting a new job and i'm really sorry.

[11:18] i'm not going to promise when it will happen, it will happen, hopefully sometime this month, but I can't say for sure next week. But know that it's coming, but I think this is also a great space for us we're just going to share what we thought and felt and how it went and all of that. And thanks for your patience with me awesome. I mean, I could say I thought it went really well, I look forward to be in person with everybody soon, I think that was really good and we had the most substantive conversations I think we've ever had, and I think a lot of that had to do just being in person, sharing food and space and.

[12:05] And a while after together, thank you for everyone's good at humor. I agree, I thought it just felt. Really really good to be face to face and and to be in the same room. And I think in some ways to sounds kind of silly but being in the municipal building and being in a place of. Not only a power, but where were changes happen on a city level Community wide level like it felt like a health impact and it gave me a recognition. of how important what we're doing is and not to get caught up fully just sometimes the kind of lost in the weeds right it's the frustrating stuff that held some way to me. Sorry, you can go ahead and or and Martha also I want to talk so.

[13:03] Just that I think that it was a pretty clear signal that we should start seriously discussing meeting in person for a monthly meetings. And that's something I can say we're waiting we're waiting for the cue from city. Council. So, once they go back in person and the rest of panels and boards and so yeah we're Arielle joey and I are are watching closely because, as soon as that happens yeah I think we should move to hybrid for our monthly meetings at least our monthly meetings yeah. yeah I really enjoyed it and I feel like the accomplished more in person, if that makes sense. Because it was it was just a quicker. Experience and interaction and. there's more content to the discussion so I definitely appreciate in person, more than not that this is horrible but I did it is my preference.

[14:09] Any constructive criticism or things that you would like to see next time that you didn't get to see. All right, so utterly perfect in every single way got it that's what happens with the event plan by our long room. i'm gonna start being a party planner. that's a great idea. My only. thing that could have been better was was really only like me like I should have been like Oh, we could have used some time for governance to like to go through guiding principles, or whatever you know, like that was it didn't hit me until it was too late, so that was. You know. No, I think you're totally right that the the session that patient Victor did was great and if we have committees take advantage of you know, and we have big chunks of time like that for for workshopping together, I think it will be, it will be great going for it, I agree yeah.

[15:09] I look forward to more in the future. I think that's a good takeaway to those, even if we don't do like a full retreat like when you were just talking about the guiding principles like maybe that is something we should get in PR. Doing an in person meeting to do that what you were talking about in the your committee reported Asa. yeah. Not to put that on you like. DASA put this together, but like yeah. Like. To take that away is like when we want to work together, is to start to set up those sessions. yeah. And certainly will get the the retreat scheduled earlier hopefully for next year as well, now that we know it's something we want to do. That way we can. really be planning ahead. yeah. yeah and that's if you need a room or so, if you want to help hold a meeting in person like that just let me know we can arrange the room, and I can order food for that to.

[16:01] be like a little I don't say mini retreat, but we can have some of the the extras that we had at the retreat for for something like that as well. I also just wanted to say it was really fun to be. kind of watching y'all, even though I was participating in the retreat with y'all to kind of be watching from the outside, in a way to and kind of observe y'all see and y'all. began to like really gel together and getting comfortable with each other and they really gave me a lot of confidence in this in the process going forward and so it's really nice to see all of you coming together around this work like that, so thank you all for that. awesome I was only going to add that, like. The only thing that could have like I don't know I felt. Like a team shirt or something I know that's corny but, like, I felt like oh wait where's I was our thing. not totally something. or started, particularly as you, as you all start doing outreach events we can definitely get y'all some little polo shirts or T shirts hoodies and.

[17:02] polos sorry. hey hey. I look good in the polo okay. i'm Okay, with the Polo. polo but like it's too. This is true. And we could probably do a variety of different things T. shirt people who was. doing what about a water bottle I really want to penalize. I think we can make that half an hour. A formal gown to me. I think a police oversight water water bottle will be some cool swag and I also would be great to welcome new people on with like it'd be great like hey welcome to the team and. You get a pop. Also, like i'd also like to see us develop something like that we could hand out to people like a refrigerator magnet or something where contact information, how to file a complaint. love that. always be be there for them i've also in the past i've thought about when, at the time when.

[18:03] Those little rubber wristbands were popular I thought about making some of those with like the phone number or the website on how to file a complaint to give out to you that that fat is kind of past that's. No longer cool, but thanks. lance Armstrong. Well, but to that point joy does that not to go off on too far, of a tangent but does the city provide like an emergency services magnet like I feel like at least when I lived in our value. question I don't know. Like I. Remember, my parents had like an emergency services magnet that was on. The fridge for years and years, and if boulder already does that, if we could just get added on there may be yeah. yeah i'll ask about that they may very well have something like that already. In which case, then we can hand that out, as well as you know, because then I think more people would take it as well. yeah but any ideas y'all have for little things like that that you'd like to use as outreach items are are for the.

[19:00] New panel Members coming in let's make a list, and let me start looking into what what the options are and the city order stuff like that or other sort of events and boards and stuff so won't be a problem. My gosh the symbolism of a hoodie or the oversight committee on that. But. Perfect well anything else, or can we move on. Good great. So next is the August 25 viewing of this is not who we are, at chautauqua I wish, she was here to talk about this too, because she has a connection to the director, so this is a movie about being black in boulder. Including historical perspective made by a local black filmmaker and it is being screened at chautauqua. dining Hall, which has some contentious racial history and so they're they're putting on this event and hosting it and screening the film and then there's there is a talk back after the film i've seen it I and it mentions the.

[20:14] start and origins of the police oversight panel, so the task force is in it and I thought was really powerful film and joey has determined with the city that we can get free tickets for any panel number who'd like to see the movie on that day. So do any of you guys know right now, if that's something you'd like to because we probably should make Ross. guide like. yeah me. Actually it twice, but I would go just to see the back, because those are awesome. yeah it's Katrina Miller is the director. Thanks for. What time is going to be. Somewhere we can look really quick.

[21:04] I think it was in the evening, but I don't remember the. evening I know. it's not who we are, you go seven clock. doors open at 630 shows at seven. We can always. reschedule the legacy review committee that's scandal, on that day. So that we can attend, if you want. So far, it looks like. Daniel Chico do you want to take it as well. yeah I can come along. Great and then joining me just be consistent on email and asked to make rotation Victor also if they want them, and I think this will also be great because today, she is working on. Setting up a separate film screening with Katrina which would be a panel Member featured as one of the talkback participants at a different screening later in the year.

[22:04] So I think us going and showing that we have interested in this film and you know participating and supporting its efforts of promotion to. Will bode well for us later on down the line, and also, I think it's just a great outreach event, I think the event should talk will be really largely attended and so that having a panel presence there will be a good thing for us ultimately so. I think, even if it's just a passive outreach. To us, and not that's kind of a negative word passive, but something of you know we don't get our Community outreach doesn't necessarily have to be. Really structured like goal oriented like we're going here to hand out brochures and to end to ask question you know it's like I think just being present at this kind of. A cultural community event, I think, is is just kind of a big deal to be that presence, it reminds me of like when the region's just like show up to concerts on campus.

[23:06] Or you know the the City Council shows up to a dairy Center event and they're not there with an agenda they're there just to be members of the community into. yeah, so I think it's really valuable and yeah I wish, he was here, but I really appreciate her reaching out and getting this going yeah. Great great agreed okay great. Next Steps in April Conference so i'll let joey jump in on that. Okay, so yeah we have the conference coming up September 11 through the 15th you all have the link in your email, we have a couple of folks who have expressed interest, I think, so far we have Daniel hadassah and Martha. anyone else who's here tonight, want to be considered for that, but co chairs that are minors and the co chairs, are going to make a decision on.

[24:03] who's going to go, but the thinking all along, has been that one co chair and one potential future co chair should go to kind of have that consistency and bring all that knowledge back. yeah and I can say I was. I have to check with my supervisor y'all about whether or not I can go next week, and so, then Arielle and I were going to get together, then after i've gotten that note, to see to make that final decision of which which two of us should go. But yeah the expenses of course i'll be covered by the city and I think it'll be. very helpful for the panel to just network to meet other other because there'll be other panel Members from other cities there'll be other. You know, professional oversight folks you sit there you sort of absorb all the knowledge from the panels, but you also get a lot of handouts and. sort of draft policies and other cities or best practices and stuff that you can bring back to the panel and share so, so I would say that part of the.

[25:08] deal and gone is yet all the expenses are covered by the city, but your responsibility when you come back is to kind of fully report back and bring all that knowledge back to to the to the panel and. kind of be that conveyor that information so there's a little work at the end and the conferences are busy you know it's a it's like 830 in the morning to five as long days. You know if you get exhausted, you can take a break you don't have to like be at every. panel and there's usually several panels going on at once, so usually have to kind of decide which one you want to be at or sometimes jump jump around between a couple, so you can try to pick up as much as you can. But yeah I think it'll be very helpful for all of us to have two REPS go. Yes, it will be in touch next week, then with that final decision and yeah that's right around the corner boy some timbers here.

[26:04] Okay. Great that's adorable. So next we have panel number application selection process joey I don't know if you had anything for this to or he didn't want to Daniel and I to. Either way, if you all want to go, and I can fill in any additional details, maybe. joy, do you want to give us a rundown of how it went last time, just a quick. Sure yeah and then Arielle. And I can pick up on this time. Absolutely, so the way we did it last time. It starts really with the. Well, first, making a public announcement to announcing what the schedule is going to be so every everyone knows when the due dates are, how to apply. When the decision is going to be made when the terms would start, so we have press releases and everything from two years ago that we just need to kind of recycle and update. We have most almost all the infrastructure for this whole process in place just has to be updated and reissued, but we will make that announcement simultaneously, we will be the Co chairs.

[27:12] I guess the whole panel will be. Selecting to Community organizations to nonprofits that serve the boulder community to assist and sit on this selection committee. Once those are so we need to have a process by which we will notify the organization's asking kind of solicit interest ask them if they would like to be a part of this. Or we could just look at a list, and you all can decide which which do you want to reach out to and the last last in two years ago, we did it was the naacp and the Islamic Center a boulder county initially the naacp was not included in that it was initially.

[28:02] El Centro amistad but they after a meeting or two they had to pull out because of the just the time commitment that it was, and so in double ACP came in and fill that seat. So there'll be a decision process you all need to make. To to get the community groups involved and then it's a matter of. Essentially, waiting for the application deadline, once the deadline has been reached, then there's a process by which you all have to look through all the applications and last time we were we received 50 something applications 56 applications, I believe. So we'll probably I would expect something in that range again, maybe, maybe a little less this time potentially more. Now that yet panels been operating, but you all, will have to read through those and kind of rank them according to your preference and then provide those probably to the Co chairs and then.

[29:01] Daniel and I are going to be meeting with one of the implementation TEAM members next week who's going to share. Because the implementation team did a lot of the we tried to keep the monitors have a separate from the decision making and sort of processing the. The implementation teams sort of review of the applications, so that the monitor wasn't couldn't be accused of you know manipulating that process anyway. So shawn Ray is the implementation team Member he's going to share the process that he created and he used this process, he learned this process from. University admissions procedures that he's has been a part of as a professional and so he took all the the the implementation teams rankings of the applications and then had like a formula. applied a ranking are a number to each of the applicants which wasn't like the final say or anything, it was just like this is how. You all on the implementation team collectively sort of rank them and then there were some, then you basically hold a discussion once you have that list.

[30:09] And you kind of go from there for for you all process, I think it was like six or seven people that everyone agreed on, it was kind of obvious like yeah. There was no need for discussion and then there was like a group of maybe five or six that were on the cusp so it's not like you're discussing. Every all 56 applicants, but then we get we gave everyone an opportunity to try to pull someone from anywhere on the list that. Just because they thought they might have had good live experience or something about them caught their attention and I thought they might be good, and so, then, so the group just came to that decision through discussion. Once they had sort of that ranking and it became a lot, it was a lot easier and quicker than we thought it was going to be, once we had that ranking. yeah and I was. Like oh man, this is gonna be a.

[31:00] Hard knock down conversation to get through, but it turned out it actually wasn't. And I can speak to that joey so so y'all my plan is so uh so yeah i'll be meeting with Sean rates to. Get the detail and everything that they did. And then i'll be following up with all of you to set up a meeting for us to talk sit down and really talk about what our priorities are to build out that criteria to just help us make some to turn some of our. Qualitative feelings into some quantitative data we use it in HR we use it in in hiring to so what a meeting to set that criteria and then set up that process of how will narrow down the candidates before we. Before we. make a final selection and then one thing Arielle joey and I have been talking about so i'll send our army style and out boulder were kind of the to follow up organizations that the implementation team had considered. When we all were recruited and one thing I want to know going forward as we're looking closer at the ordinance and our requirements for student.

[32:08] panel Members, we really need to be doing recruitment every year, which means that will be reaching out to an organization, every year, and so joy correct me if i'm wrong with the implementation teams kind of. Vision for those two orgs was that we would work our way through many of the nonprofit organizations in boulder over time and so that all considered Arielle and I what we'd love to hear your feedback we were thinking of maybe just approaching a central me start and outlook boulder. First, this year and seeing if they're interested in serving on the. The recruitment in the recruitment process as kind of a carry over from last year. But I might just jump in really quick if you don't mind for me to just read the mission and values of the. Integrated.

[33:01] To kind of help give you guys some context sorry to cut you off at all. No, no yeah it's great. um so our Center i'm his dad's mission and values and our to create opportunities and programs that promote equity and health, education and quality of life for the Latino community in boulder county. And out boulder working independently and in collaboration we facilitate connection advocacy education, research and programs to in sure LGBT Q plus people. and communities thrive in boulder county and beyond, so those are, I think it's just important to state their two missions and as Daniel said, if you feel comfortable those would be the two organizations we'd go to initially. yeah. um I I was thinking, I mean, so it sounds like we're with a The goal is to work with every organization in the area.

[34:00] and be we're going to be doing this, a lot right like we're going to be recruiting people a lot and so. What i'm wondering is if maybe we just want to reach out to all of the local charities and say here's what we're going to need from you. we're going to need somebody now, but if you need a year to schedule from somebody you know, can we can we book you to be the next or you know to kind of get a sense of because. they're probably also limited on manpower like to help them coordinate when they're going to have time versus when we're going to need somebody and we can kind of. schedule, you know, maybe a couple people out and that way, we have you know we have a plan, and it makes it a little bit easier and we don't risk that somebody wanting to be involved and not being able to because of time commitment. Totally. Just building on what does I saying, I think the Community engagement team has already built a database of.

[35:02] People we organizations, we should be targeting so we already have a blueprint there. I think that's true and I also think, though, that this, these are two nonprofits who have already expressed interest in working with us like you know overly expressed interest in working with us and and while we want to target everyone and make sure I also. I think like linking back and strengthening connections to with with populations and people that we already have started an initial connection with is. is important, and I know from conversations with joey that at least at the time out boulder was disappointed that they they ultimately didn't get to participate, you know they might they might now be like we are way too busy and. And don't have the manpower um but no DAS I think what your your point is is great, but also that's a lot of work right so in. A lot of ways we can start to set up the system for that I think of how we reach out to all these nonprofits letting them know.

[36:07] With a student on the panel how often this will be happening, I think that's great, but I also think getting that off of the ground, along with just getting this our first round of I mean we have. I think it is six spots to fill between alternate between alternate and two new seats so filling that I would just be worried about the workload of reaching out to the hundreds of nonprofits that are in boulder county so that's my initial hesitation there. yeah and I think um I think what i'm thinking is, we would, I mean i'm good moving forward with the people that have already expressed that have already contacted us and said yes, we definitely want to do this, and we think we have the time now um. But I think that having you know, a second letter, like, I said that just says here's going to be our future plan, if you think that you have will have any interest, let us know and we'll contact you know, like we would love to have that, like a list of more people for next time.

[37:12] Definitely i'm happy to work on that so i'm happy to work on a form letter that. We can review internally of of recruitment, or you know what it would look like an offer letter to a nonprofit basically of what the time commitment would be that we could use if that would be helpful if people want to see a draft of that. I wondered, too, I think that I had two thoughts, as I think if we reach out directly if we reach out directly. To a bunch of organizations saying hey we're looking for Members and they ultimately don't get picked that also feels like a little bit of a. bit of a little bit of a hook hook and pull on them, and so I wonder if it's maybe a little bit more of.

[38:02] US putting out like a press release putting putting out a statement asking city of boulder to put something out and saying we are looking for organizations who are interested in getting involved. Please get in touch with the panel, and then we create a shortlist which I think would include. El Centro and out boulder other shortlist of organizations that we want to follow up with who have already reached out with us and so maybe that way that might want Arielle to your point. kind of condensed the workload so that we're not having to reach out to all these organizations, because I also worry about the organization that we might overlook in that process. You know, and so, if it's direct outreach then they have no way of getting back to us, whereas I think if we do a general you know if we if we asked city boulder to put out a press release we put a statement on our website. We asked for city of boulder to put a put out a call on their Facebook, which I think they did.

[39:01] Last go around. That that might be a more sustainable way one of reaching as many organizations as possible. And also reaching the organizations that really are interested in having the time because I also feel like. You know if I was if I was running a nonprofit and got an email from Arielle was like hey would you like to join in i'm like Oh, we could we could pull someone together to do that right. And then nothing comes of it or it does come of it and it turns out, we didn't really have the time capacity I think there might just experienced a lot of churn and that, if we don't put the Agency on the organization's. I guess, I have to sorry to keep playing devil's advocate, I have two concerns or hypotheticals here to have one we don't hear back from anyone or two, we hear back from 75 organizations, and this is a separate application process onto itself which both of those seem awful to me. i'll add the first time it did almost feel like a separate application process.

[40:01] For. The. Community organizations. and also to daniel's point there were I did sense that there were some of the organizations that felt a little miffed at the end, like what we volunteered for this, I thought you wanted this now, you tell them we didn't get telling us we didn't get selected. So that you do run that risk when you make that sort of targeted outreach to people. The other only other point I would make is that it's possible we might not have to do this every year the student terms are one year. But the students can still do to two terms, so they right we get on a cycle, where we have two students who do two years and then we don't you know they just end the cycle, with the rest of the the terms that are that are getting. That we're going through. that those are only my only kind of comments. Martha did you. have anything. I don't know i'm kind of hearing like.

[41:02] We prioritize these these two groups. But I also feel like. Maybe that's the like the rest of the population could so that like an introductory something from this, the communications network, just so that we can start those networking feelers without it being like specific to this process, or like to that piece so. Just so that it's both. Because, then I actually really like that it's different groups for the next sentence so kind of you know, build the Community and expand. In an inclusive way, so I think that's really awesome. that's a really good point Martha we shouldn't just be reaching out to these organizations, when we need something from. from them when we make when we need their time we should yeah build that relationship long term yeah good point.

[42:02] Agreed, well, it sounds like um, we need to think on this a little bit more about the the outreach to to nonprofits, and so we have a follow up meeting tomorrow the Co chairs with with joey. As we do, after all of our regular meetings and so maybe we can put together kind of a proposal to the panel a few different options that people can vote on over email and we'll we'll get that cranking out because I know that we need to make a decision on this. quickly, I think. take up too much more time on it. yeah sorry I didn't mean interrupt that I think what we were thinking like we need to probably get this process started by like late September. And so we were thinking we sort of talked about a little bit tonight get the ideas out there and then come back. For the September meeting with a sort of plan in place a couple decision points that the panel will need to make, and then you you all make those decisions at the September meeting, and then we start the process at that point.

[43:01] yeah cuz a lot because yeah our goal is to have our new panelists and. alternate selected. By the end of the year right, we also have panel Members will be rotating off in the new year, so it is kind of we are, we are, we are pressed for time, I think, as well. And the other thing we need to keep in mind, which we learned last time is, we have to remember that we have the holidays and Thursday in November and December that ends up taking out with big big chunks of time. Especially when you need to like interview a bunch of people and you need like a big schedule so. That you need to keep that in mind as well. So maybe in that case off of. Arielle what you were saying us three joey Arielle. And I will build out a plan. for selecting the organization's. and final timeline and we'll send that around for review and maybe we should go ahead and do that as an email vote and we can follow up in the Sep tember meeting to announce the results of that just to keep things moving not to not to hide things but to keep the ball rolling.

[44:07] And then, what it sounds like, then, is our big decision here is whether or not to do direct outreach to nonprofit organizations or to do indirect outreach through. through other communication channels, but either way it sounds are we, we would we all are, are we interested in reaching back out to El Centro and out boulder to reassess their interest either way with these results Okay, that I just wanted to double check on that. But I think that gives us a clear way forward. You know, Sir, I don't know, is it, yes, Spain. The. timeline are you are we hoping to have people. By the first line is evident just.

[45:03] Or is that really helpful, so do you mind sharing your screen with that timeline you have from last time, because I think that will help it helped me a lot to see kind of the structure of everything, and I think it's I think it's a really. Solid plan that they did last time sorry. I have it up, if I don't have oh perfect I was I don't have a second to pull it up, but if that. joy, can you. I need it. And you let me share my screen joey. Thanks. Do okay. yeah so we were looking really we're looking at the fast track y'all. And so, the reason is that one because we are down panel Members, we do not have our full nine right now, we also don't have our student representation. So the sooner we get in alignment there, the better, but we also have people cycling off.

[46:02] In January, and so that's kind of we need so to your point Martha yes, I think before January 1 is is our pressing timeline. And so, with the fast track then really we're looking at getting started, I mean it's now to get a month, a month jump on it. But if you move all these dates back full month and joy's point taken about the holidays, because I think if I remember correctly last go around that's why all our interviews got bumped into the New Year was just the scheduling. scheduling around that. yeah we I think we were actually ended up on option number two. Great. Are you all process. yeah. But yeah I think the the point about essentially taking this time frame and bumping everything up a month month and a half is is about what we're looking at yeah which will give us more time and allow us to.

[47:02] I think finished before the first of the year right. So yeah we saw our first our first action item we have to action items one Arielle joey and I will come back to you all, with a plan to give feedback and approve. But then either way, we need to have our nonprofits selected by Sep tember by the second week of Sep tember that's Our most pressing deadline, right now, so we'll meet it will just make it happen that's what we do. Great and I i'm very good here are we are still going alright, moving on. Is that a cell him to take my. um I we have monitors report and panel selection cases Next, I would recommend that we take our break here so that joey can kind of go on interrupted um.

[48:03] Do we want to we don't have any members of the public, I don't think right now, either, so do you guys want take a 10 minute break come back at 630 does that work for everyone, nine minutes. So sorry. Sorry sorry. yeah i'm here for you. 730 is that good. Lucy all. Sufficient. And i'll hand it over to joey for our monitors report and fyi everyone joey sent us out the PowerPoint with this distance as well that's in the Channel meeting folders well, if you want to pull those up otherwise joey i'll hand it over to you. Alright, thank you, Daniel first item on my report is just the passage of ordinance. That increased the panel from nine to 11 so we got it done that'll it's it's an effect, now it is, it is the new law.

[49:08] What this also means now is that, instead of operating under ordinance at 430 which used to be the ordinance we operate under it's the same ordinance just as a new number, now that it has been. adapted so the only changes to it, where the nine to 11 and the. increase of the alternates and there was a section that there was some language in the selection process that only applied to the first time that the panel was created where it talks about. The panel members drawing straws to decide who would have a two year term, and who would have a three year term that whole thing is moved now so they just took that out of the ordinance but everything else in the ordinance is the same. Any questions before I move on to the next item, any questions about the new ordinance process went very smoothly, thank you, Daniel and Arielle for being there to answer any questions from the Council, we we got a couple of questions.

[50:09] They were, but the Council was clearly fully in support of expanding, I think it was unanimous vote and expanding the panel that we did get some questions around. The workload we shared that with them, I had a little slide where I talked about how many hours you all are donating or devoting to this. told talked about where adding people would help in terms of the time commitment for panel members. But yeah The other thing I think that came through was that one of the panel members, one of the Council Members asked if. The if you all were getting paid any kind of stipend, and so I said yep tell them what it was, and that we had in we were planning to increase that and the new. Budget, and they were all like nodding in agreement like yeah this panel seems to be doing, like a lot of work and they deserve additional compensation and resources, and I think the mayor thank all of you specifically for doing this work and acknowledge that it was hard difficult work.

[51:08] So yeah I think we, I came away feeling like we had the full support of the panel have a full support of the Council. On both expansion of the panel and increase up the stipend so that was all good signs to me. I was gonna ask joy, so it just occurred to me our quorum number now is six correct. yeah we'll have to adjust that exactly yeah. cool so yeah but a good we go up to six. What well in January, once we have the new members joining the panel once that the panel is actually expanded to 11 so we'll see we'll still be nine or eight until we actually bring the new people on. got what God wants a new people on and we have 11 then will increase the corum to six. aquarium is still five for the nine, even though we only have eight but as soon as we bring on 11 then it's six. Exactly that's not confusing at all.

[52:00] The math. of democracy. The next item on monsters report we just want I just needed to get us sort of settled on how we were going to do this review and discussion of the. boulders reimagining policing plan, I was able, I sent out the doodle I didn't get a whole lot of responses to that, but in over the past month, where where I had committee meetings or case reviews i've been able to talk to several of you. I think the consensus that I got and you all change this, if you all have a different view at this point, but I think the consensus i'm getting is that there was a preference for doing it at our next meeting on Sep tember ninth I believe it is as long as we can ensure that. Like we would make the meeting specifically about like what dedicate one hour to the the reimagining policing plan and then probably one hour to our. New panel Member application and selection process.

[53:03] covered just those two topics and our next meeting and make sure to make sure that we have enough time for those two very important items, maybe do just like very quick updates from the the. committee's but it's been most of our time on those two agenda items, I think that that avoids haven't you all, having to schedule another evening, separate from our panel meetings or case reviews are committing work meetings. So I think that's that's the signal i'm getting that that that would work for most everyone as long as we also acknowledge that, if we do need to go past two hours. On September 9 meeting that we allow ourselves to do that, to make sure that we cover everything so that we're not cutting something out that we would have otherwise done. Does that sound workable does that sound like a plan you always get this plan, like two weeks ahead of time or so have time to review it. And then you could provide any written feedback you want ahead of time and then come to that meeting, and it will probably be the chief and.

[54:07] Wendy shorts, I think, who has been the kind of program managers, with a process manager for this whole process she's a city staff member, not a police department employee and maybe like a city manager or something as well may join them. Does that sound workable any other suggestions or other preferences. that the plan we got. Good feedback on. I don't think you all received it yet. yeah I don't think it's been provided to you, yet as it. Was it was in that article, we sent around. Oh yeah it, you may have come across it somewhere else publicly, like other links and stuff to it, but I don't think we've formerly said that to you all, with the requested to review it yet. Oh, my wife hates it. super honest response is thinking of is for us.

[55:02] I don't know, I have to go in my email check it out, because I gave some super honest responses. And i'm. All good I mean you can do that either as a Community Member or as a panel Member it doesn't stop you from. Going continuing to do this, give you feedback with the panel. Martha I think that was just an email to all of us, that was an internal chain. Okay. that's right now I do remember seeing that. But yeah hold on to that that you're ahead of the game you you've already reviewed it and have something to say so. that's all good. So sorry any other thoughts. suggestions on how to do this. And I think I think that sounds great I think we probably should anticipate adding on some extra time um and get kind of a consensus of which way works best if we want to start earlier and later.

[56:01] would be my only suggestion I guess. Any preference from this group my sense of the group is that going later into the evening is easier than starting earlier but. Whatever you all think. I can say for myself going later is easier. Saying same for me. Either we have no preference. I don't think I have a preference either. I will say it does look like that. Is our next meeting, the eighth or the 15th. would be the eighth. Day okay. um I should be. into some sort of.

[57:00] Back to School groups by then. So. You guys have a. conflict that date also i'll confirm. But we also just because of that, I noticed was important meeting um if that's the case we'll just want to check in with panelists who aren't here and make sure that we have corn. Okay. And Martha you were saying you'll be back in the school grinds our thing, meaning that it would be more difficult, are. Not just that, by the eighth I should at least have some sort of after school well so. I thought you have a special. Like we're scheduling stuff is yeah. yeah. it's always an event because they're in different places. Okay gotcha. All right, we'll plan template. i'll send out the email confirming with everyone but tentatively planned for September 8.

[58:04] Adding any additional time that we need to know all right. Thank you. just get my little slide set up here. Okay. So for this past month. The panel as a whole, we were only able to get to one case review, but that's actually because we were waiting on to other cases to be completed by the police department, so it wasn't the holdup wasn't on Iran. Those two complaints those two cases did just get completed at the end of last week reached out to the parent or the three the two pairs of three panel members that are assigned to those two cases to get those scheduled. We have a few more something to review tonight, so those will go on the list as well, whichever you select so we'll have another full three that we're ready to review going into this next cycle.

[59:08] The Department has responded to there were two outstanding one that we did this past cycle and one that was a holdover from a past cycle those have been received so they there are no sort of open recommendations from the panel that we're waiting currently for from the police department. The cases that we did receive this past cycle oh 101101601 involves an allegation of respect for others rule for. This was the case that involved the trespass and parking dispute in the north bold or REC Center parking lot. Where they were allegations of white privilege of fact to get a taser there was some subsequent exchange between a sergeant and the complainant and then also included a referral to hhs or child welfare check.

[60:07] The panel had sustained the rule for allegation or recommended to sustain the rule for allegation. The panel also recommended further investigation of an officers reference to this, the subject the complainants mental health status, an officer had had made comments to. Third parties on the scene and the panel had also recommended de escalation training for the dispatchers for this case, the chief did not sustain she came to a determination of not sustained. They did do the additional investigation that the panel recommended that the review committee recommended that has been shared with that review committee. They the the additional investigation did address the additional concerns raised by the panel by the review Committee, such as the verbal exchange the the reference to the mental health status the child child welfare referral.

[61:12] They there was there was a conclusion was that there was no policy violations their references to mental health status by officers is not a hipaa violation. That police are not held to the to the Hippo policies and standards and rules. And the referral to hhs was concluded, to be. sort of part of what they're trained to do when a child is potentially and in danger, the argument here was that child was in the vehicle when the vehicle was being used to block someone else's vehicle in during a confrontation and then that's that's what had triggered the officers. feeling like he should report that to the job welfare services, our faces, yes, excuse me. So that was the the outcome on that 1011 is also a respect for others, but also included an allegation of use of force, this involved in individual who was Adam mental health facility facility.

[62:13] Who the doctor there had determined he needed to be put it on a mental health holds of the officers just arrived to carry that out. In the process, the man was trying to light a cigarette just before going into the ambulance and the officer told him. Several times, not to do that and then took the cigarette out of his mouth and sort of knocked it out of his mouth. The individual allege that the officer slapped him in the face and slapped him in the chest or struck him in the chest. But the body worn camera footage clearly demonstrated that it was just grabbing the cigarette or knocking the cigarette out of the mouth, there was no slap to the face or knocked to the chest. The panel that reviewed this which included a review of the body worn camera footage did recommend to exonerate the officer on this and the Chiefs determination was also exonerated.

[63:06] Oh one six involved a pursuit, there were two officers had allegations against them, this was an internal this was a pair of internal allegations filed within the department by. supervisors and commanders concerned about the tactics used by an officer during a pursuit this essentially included going the wrong way down one way boulevard. And the. pursuit being called off by a supervisor, but the officer continuing to. engage in the pursuit another officer blocked the road way during their pursuit and there was some question around whether that was a actual violation of policy or not. It was determined, both by the panel and the department that it wasn't a violation of the roadblock policy as the policy is currently written, but that the policy should be.

[64:02] improved upon and revised to make the intention more clear, so there was a ultimately. Not sustained or exonerated of the officer for blocking the road, but with some retraining and coaching for what needs to be considered for safety reasons for public safety and for officer safety reasons. The allegation against the officer who actually engaged in in the pursuit and drove the wrong way and disregarded the direction to stop the pursuit, those were sustained. With a one year sorry a five year letter a reprimand recommended by the panel. The chief did sustain that did a five and an agreed to a five year letter a rapper reprimand. The one other note, I should add here is that the officer who these complaints were sustained against. had actually taken it has actually taken employment with another law enforcement agency, a federal law enforcement agency so it's no longer a member of the.

[65:01] boulder police department, but that is the report back on the three click cases that were closed this past cycle any comments questions before I move on to the next set of statistics. I definitely have some thoughts. wow. i'm. i'm trying to. articulate. Without becoming that you know biased caricature of an angry brown percent. But I definitely and concerned about 001. And that outcome and i'm wondering if it is possible to.

[66:02] I don't remember what we will be called it, but during the retreat, we talked about. Maybe like exploring more options about maybe statements or something. After. The chief overrides our recommendations and just i'm wondering how people feel about that. yeah I thought this was an idea that Sarah raise those Sarah also wants to jump in on I think it's. A good idea and I would agree that this would be the time for us to start. Publishing publishing statements to cases that we that were outcomes deferred. And just doing that I would say, on a regular basis to that this can just kind of become protocol, and I think yeah this would be the time to start that process, so I also am in favor of doing that.

[67:04] I agree, and I think, maybe the format is. You know each month to release you know joey exactly I mean anyone who attended these meetings can see this information, and so, if we can make that available as a statement from the panel here's the cases we reviewed this this. This go around here's our verdicts here's the the the Chiefs outcomes and yeah we have we have the statements section on our website already to go to handle that. yeah That was my thought. Sarah in the in the chat says agreed. i'll just send a summary that. Joe he does, why don't we just published that in full, I mean, then, that, then there is no need of US issuing further statements and then we step back and forth exchanges.

[68:10] Oh, that was what I was actually thinking was that yeah we essentially take what joey has given us today and just reformat it into a statement that a statement that can go on our website or is reproducible for for any members of the public who aren't attending a meeting. yeah but, but my my take is that. There is no need of US focusing on disagreements and agreements just what whatever joey has done, whether we agree, though he didn't agree just that. Did you see what Sarah said with I think what we discussed was exactly that, with a descent, with a we descend kind of know and.

[69:00] This is again just this is personal so speak for myself, I think. We have room here for that we descend to be pretty clear if we want that to be that this this can be standardized every month and then. If the panel decides, we want to add on a stronger statement to or anything keep it short, of course, but I personally think we are. We have the power, and we have the room to say publicly if we disagree with something and there's no reason for us not to so that's. that's my stance on that, and for me with this one, this is one where I would have no problem with art we descend to sentence statement being pretty strong in terms of disagree. One thing I would just point out that you may want to consider, as part of the process of how you all decide to do this is so, you have. Three panel Members who are actually reviewing the case, and you know the case pretty well, and then they come a determination is dumb to they make a recommendation, then you may have the chief disagree or go a different direction.

[70:05] You probably want to have a process where the rest of the panel looks at the case if you're going to say something collectively. Make sure you all feel that way about the case about the evidence about before. Because it just you would have I mean you could do it where you're just kind of your each the whole group is sort of trusting the three and where you're all going to put your weight behind that but you may also. want to consider like if you're going to put out a public statement, then you should all feel comfortable with the evidence and know it sort of inside and out. Before you put your names on on a public statement. that's how I would feel if I was, I was doing it, but you all may feel differently. I think that's the advantage of republishing exactly what we just had so that slide you had joey republished into. A clear description of the reviewed case a clear.

[71:04] understanding that the panel did not agree with the police chiefs final verdict cuz that's in there right we exonerated right that's in there are some exonerated. The chief exonerated we sustained that's right there in the statement, and so, in that sense, then, like we've already made this information, public, but we have not made it accessible and we have not made it. If someone wants to dig into a deeper and to call up the panel and say hey Can you give us more information on this case you looked into, I think that's been where the three Members become more involved, but I think just even for our own sanity and workload. uh you know i'm inclined to yeah we just we make what we see every month available as soon as possible, as a statement that that the media can reach out to the public and reach out to. that's just that's yeah that's kind of where i'm at because otherwise I yeah concerning how long it's taken for us to make statements in the past, I don't think we can do that, every month.

[72:08] Because I just think it's it's it's a lot of work and in the event that something really does come to a head. We have to be prepared for that, too, because. If the police chief decides to make her own statement and get her PR folks involved, you know, though that's that's something we have to be prepared for and so i'd rather be saving up that time to deal with that situation than preparing a specific statement every month to go along with. what's clear we disagreed yeah. I mean if we're just going to like republish what's already being published that's not a statement. Not. Quite point it's not published right we show it in our meeting and that's not. who sits down and watch as a two hour meeting to get those details every week that's what i'm kind of saying is that I think we should publish it and I think that's the statement because the police chief isn't isn't publishing these these verdicts.

[73:10] I guess, where I see it like I for this particular thing I have three separate issues. One the verbiage, we got about hipaa and it not applying to law enforcement. I emphatically disagree on and that is because you know police officers are able to say hey I have this individual had glossy eyes, I. I smell the smell of alcohol and their breath and I assume that they were under the influence of X, Y and Z that's a diagnosis that's rendered and their descriptions their. influences absolutely affect the lives of people. And, at a certain level, especially because we're getting into like issues with people who have mental health, who have trauma.

[74:05] They have to abide by disability. Those are protected classes, so to say, oh no that doesn't apply is very odd I mean i'm not articulating it Well now, of course, but even that. isn't that a security of police information issue to just dispense it out to whoever. Obviously, I would like gather fast before and make sure that everybody agrees, but like. If we're going to make a statement I don't know why they wouldn't. Be bold about it. That, I think that's the point, and then, especially for like I looked up the data just because I didn't want to feel like oh my gosh nuts, but like it's not it's not a small thing to call in a child welfare report it isn't. So the census data for boulder county reflects 14% of the Latino Community here in this county.

[75:10] But right now in. kids that are involved in child welfare there's 360 kids in the Community and. Of those kids 133 of those kids are Latino kids that is 42%. When the Community census says this for 14% but the Community that's being affected is 42% there's clearly a disparity there, so we can't be like Willy nilly about. them calling over. Situations like this. I mean, I want to expand more than that, now, but I feel like if we're gonna.

[76:00] If we're going to make a statement that's actually make a statement. that's just my. So I I hear. I hear what you're saying, Daniel in terms of like the feasibility and the the amount of work and Labor um. I think that we could make. I think that we could think of a way to present the data consistently that also brings very much to attention the times when there has been a disagreement between us and the cheats and I think that we could present that, in a way that is clear and obvious. But also isn't necessarily producing a statement every single time, that being said. I mean, I think we've had.

[77:03] a very small percentage of the cases go this way, and so the reality that we would be writing a statement every single month I don't think is is is the case, even if we were to do that every single time that this happened. But I do think. I agree that this is this is this feels like a big one, and that maybe needs a little bit of. More yeah yeah yeah. So maybe that's what it is it's two processes is one we have this this system of how we publish. Our verdicts and our disagreements. And to to always have the door open to adding a. A more narrative statement to that day to those results as well yeah Sir, I see your handle handed to you. hey i'm just wondering um.

[78:02] So i've often seen I think things like city council members when they get when they descent to something often right like an op ED. And i'm wondering. If, for instance, like in this case, I agree with Martha but i'm not sure i'm as passionate as she is with about the disagreement and i'm wondering if one. Member is passionate if we should use the tactics of city council and write an op ED we can publish what joey publishes. And there will be some interested Community partners who might pick up pick up the ball and run with it, but I think I what i'm wondering, is the rules. That we put in place or City Council put in place about writing things like op eds. And i'm wondering if that is an option we have and then any individual.

[79:03] panel Member can do that. If we get to this particular point, like, I feel like Martha could probably get some coffee and write an op ED today what's her passion. And then we wouldn't have to have we wouldn't actually have to deliberate it, we would say i'm going to write an op ED and publish it in the whatever it's called. I love that. I think it's great yeah and as individuals, I mean, as far as like can we do this as individuals, we can we can write and say whatever I mean it's in our bylaws. We none of this work will infringe on our right to free speech, so all of this conversation of side if anyone in this room, wants to write an op ED there is nothing. preventing them from doing so and I just want not to press it in one direction, but just to address that straight on is that we have no procedure to prohibit any individuals from expressing themselves yeah Chico yeah.

[80:00] yeah so just going back to what joey said picking it up from the. If we're going to go down this path, then you are assuming that all of us have reviewed the case which is not the case. So then. If the then it means that. We have to find a way of everybody reviewing the case which is more workload I don't think that the system was designed for us to be. Double handling or triple handling matters so. that's why for me and i'm just. Saying that if if if I told the report that Joe we did. If we publicize that then we get an inquiry, then we can dig further and add on to that why we disagreed. i'm just thinking about the workload I frankly I don't have time to take on more assignment.

[81:07] that's just me. Thank you. yeah. For the sake of moving forward. Should we take a vote now about asking joey to publish the information that he shows in the slides to publish that in a statement format to our website as as thing one that we are that we all agreed to do. As a as a statement are just essentially like the slides that I show you all put both find a place to put those on the website. I think that we could present something and i'd like to if it's okay i'd like to just put together, something that would.

[82:05] You know kind of what i'm imagining is like you know, a nice little descriptive here's this is this here's how many times exonerated maybe a couple of like comment options, so you can like look into specific things if it's like things we want to highlight. You know, specifically like like that's the number of times that was sustained by us not sustained by the chief here's a hyperlink to some details or a little bit of extra detail on those specific cases um but yeah I can I can. put together something and then we can kind of come together and i'm more than happy to do that if that's. Okay, with y'all I think that would be great personally also if you're if you're up for doing that and just kind of a proposal I really appreciate that and I think your feet excellent. sure.

[83:04] and always go. And that's not to drop the second point about how we make. A more impactful statement wall so balancing our workload and so. I guess just with maybe just with it with a couple minutes here if we just want to do we want to set aside. Some time to discuss that further do we want to wait until our next meeting to discuss that because I don't want to shut it down just by by by passively tabling it I do want to move forward, so thank you, but then also how do we want to move forward with making a decision about. An additional more impactful statement and what we've heard from the options. Sorry, you said city council, but the first thing that came to mind was supreme court because there's there's one judge who writes the dissenting opinion there's one judge who writes the dissenting opinion.

[84:05] You know it's like so maybe there's there's the one panel Member who writes the which I think was hearing one panel who writes an opinion. And then the other extreme of that and a panel Member who writes an opinion to accompany at that and represents that opinion for themselves or for the three people they have the have the reviewing committee that's option one option two is. that the panel does a full review and prepares a full statement that would go out and so I think those are the two options were discussing outside of doing nothing. One other option, I was just thinking about I was just thinking about how the ordinance. Was sort of imagining this how the implementation team, what sort of imagine something like this happening. They specifically wrote in the ordinance that the monitor would report out these things at the meeting, and then the panel could make any comments or statements or observations about those outcomes and policies and what have you so one other way to do it could be.

[85:09] A verbal statement at the meeting, and if you all know, you're going to make a statement like that you can notify whoever you want, you know Members of the media and that. someone's going to be making a statement tonight on a on a case and then you say it at the meeting and you're quoted in your own words with your name. And so, everyone doesn't have to sort of agree with it or take the responsibility for it it's just but it's that individual that's an opportunity to voice that make that individual statement. yourself in your own words that's another option i'll just throw out there. i'm lifting up Sarah in the chat asked, can we can we get alignment via email.

[86:09] And it is 808 um. Real quick yeah I think I think that's a great idea, I will say this is another thing I mean this is one of the things that the governance is kind of dealing with, and we do need to flush out in our bylaws, so it is a new process. will come up with something, and it will be alright so um yeah it's I think starting via emails is a great start and I vote for that. Okay, and and DASA and Martha since you are the our loan to governance Committee, I think, on this too, since the Co chairs are designated as the the the the watching the columns. The spokespersons for the panel, if you want to reach if you want to include Arielle in that brainstorm there's anything way any way we can support that that's not to get involved if you don't want us involved with it.

[87:09] But it to if you want to reach out to us, or if we wanted to do a sub meeting to talk about it, and maybe that's then where we can bring something back to the rest of the panel. yeah I say we'll we'll prioritize it for this next month's meeting, which would be the 17th or for this month's meeting sorry 17 if we need to reschedule to kind of fit people's schedules, let me know and we can we can update that but for now it is the 17 six to 7pm got it Thank you. All right, that do have just one last slide just to just some statistics to show you guys is where we're at, and then I will turn it back over to the Chair. So this is that these are numbers, we received last month in July we had four complaints filed three of those are misconduct one classified as serious misconduct, the panel you all have those four cases in your case summaries tonight.

[88:10] Just one Community inquiry filed in July so far in August one complaint received no community agrees and 11 open cases current. chair, I will turn it back over to you. Who. beans. So i'm just making sure that meeting is in my calendar, and so there we go okay i'm. do so next step panel Members, we need to vote on our cases. Joyce sent those out to us, so please go ahead and pull those up. And while panel Members are doing that, we do have one member of the public and then for anyone who's viewing this afterwards, just to note that what we're about to do is to vote on the case summaries.

[89:08] For this past month that came from complaints. Against the boulder police department, we just wanted to note that these are full case summaries not complaints, not just summaries of the complaints. What joey does is pulls together summaries of any additional police camera footage and he available evidence initial investigations other complaints any kind of extenuating waiting circumstances. That help us to better understand the context of the complaint before we vote, we do not read out the details of these complaints, because we want to make sure we protect the privacy. of both the complaint T and the complainants, but, as you just saw each month joey reads out the case summaries of the ones we've completed and so you'll see those in our annual report as well.

[90:01] And so panel Members, we will do this with a majority vote, and I will read out the full case number and the rule violations just to make sure we're on the same page Joe see you in the Doc thanks for ready to go, so our first one is m I to 022 dash 017 these allegations are a Rule one. against two officers i'll give you just a second. panel members all in favor of reviewing this case hands up. panel Thank you Martha I see one. Okay, and panel members. All in favor of not reviewing this case hands up. The nays habit. The next one is in my 2022 dashes 018.

[91:04] And these allegations are also a Rule one. Just a second. And panel members all in favor of reviewing this case hands up. 1234. All against reviewing this case hands up Thank you Sarah the eyes have it, we will review MIT zero to 2018. Next up is MIT 022 dash 019. This allegation is a Rule one violation. panel members hands up if you'd like to review this case.

[92:01] See 1234 Thank you panel members hands up if you're against reviewing this case. And the eyes habit, so we will review in my 2022 dash 019. Next up is MIA to zero to two dashes 020, this is a Rule one violation and a Rule five violation. give you just a second. And panel members hands up, if you would like to review this case. I see 2020020 yes. In my 2022 dash 020. And Chico you did get a hand for that right, yes that's for panel members hands up against reviewing this case that's too, so we will review this case, the eyes have it, thank you next up is sm 2022 dash 004.

[93:13] And this is a Rule one violation sorry it's embedded deep end. it's the long one, and it's our last one yeah one. panel members hands up, if you would like to review this case. that's unanimous, so we will will review sm to 022 dash 004. And, in accordance with the Sarah holt Protocol would we go ahead and like to sign up for those panel Members who are here sign up for which cases we'd like to do joy, do you want to just go through those and will volunteer. joy I think you're muted joey. Yes, let me check my other lists to see which other outstanding cases we have may have.

[94:07] Okay, we have three people actually already assigned to that other open case so yeah we can just go through each one and sign up and i'm seeing tasha in the participants section, let me promote her in. So yeah 018. If you want to volunteer for that one, let me know. Oh sorry joey I also, I have to take off a few minutes early i'm so sorry about that you guys, but I wanted to volunteer for. And i'm happy to do any but I was happy to volunteer for the one that's going to be a little bit longer and take more time on. which the last one. The last one, and so, if you want to put me down for that i'm happy to. I think we all should do the last one.

[95:03] it's we're not limited to three. remembers yeah we can talk about last one. yeah. yeah i'd like to sign up for that one as well, so. joy it sounds like we have at least four people for. done yo you read my mind on the last one to. I actually I actually really do think that the whole panel may want to. yeah we can do that. yeah cool. let's do our first like everybody me. A second i'll be right back sorry that something happened, and the other one would be. two seconds. We do. um guys before I leave to Daniel demon saying to him also do 019. yeah and actually I think I could put it in there 019 you said Arielle. yeah yeah. Do you have the power. So i'm actually going to take over for Joe you all. Great actually i'm going to go Member by Member if that or or nevermind that doesn't make sense that's Honorable a 017 who would like to jump on that.

[96:07] I don't think we assign that one. That was a no, thank you Martha I can read that's my English major where I meant the 018 Thank you 018. I think I have a conflict with it so. mark is out okay bye bye Arielle. earlier. Was that a hand not too okay. No, I was waving binary out sorry. i'm gonna i'm gonna put myself on this, because that was. It i'm i'm having a hard time signing up right, I prefer the putting my name in a in a thing if that's. Okay, I just like I I can't decide I can't decide the this way i'm sorry. Do we not want to sign up for the reviews, then, do we want to try and do that over email is that what i'm hearing.

[97:06] Oh, she can send in what she prefers later. Then the rest of us can can go ahead. Great so let's just go panel Member by panel Member then if that makes sense, Sarah which cases would you like to review. I mean, I think there probably needs to be an addendum here as well, like I didn't vote for any of them except the last one so i'll take the last one okay there's probably some level of effort and burden you take on by wanting to review. Cases just to note. Okay Martha which cases would you like to review. i'm. 019. And 004019. And zero. Sorry, you say 00 for.

[98:00] The last. That last one okay yeah we're on the last one so just the other good Chico. 020 and the last one. here to zero, and last one. Is. And I know you should just joined us so. We got some of them joy, if you want to follow up with them you chef at DASA and victor. Am I missing anyone yeah I always hear so tight tisha DASA and Victor about which cases they want to do, but then, otherwise we should get us into the pipe. yeah and maybe two if we want to make sure to give tisha and Victor the opportunity if they if they're not interested in 004 I think that's fine right, I mean. We can't mandate that the whole panel reviewer case so just to make sure they get the opportunity to. Correct yeah the way they are, and it says, or the way I think your bylaws read is at least three panel Members on each committee, so it doesn't say how many are too many are so that's fine.

[99:12] Okay boom thanks y'all we do have a member of the public with us. And so. let's move to public comments. In other states, I also want to give. update for Victor and I can add my apologies for not being available earlier but happy to do that, after public comment very quickly. yeah perfect. So, yes for public comments i'm pulling up my notes. Someone. yeah so members of the public, we will will give you the chance to unmute in order to see if you want to get public comment, you will get to unimpeded limit minutes to comment if there's an interruption or loss of connection the clock will be stopped.

[100:11] We will give you verbal notice of time at 20 seconds to end and we will mute the feed or right at two minutes. And panel members y'all may offer short responses at the end of a comment, and you can go ahead and just chat me directly, if you would like to give a response. And then, otherwise give me just one second to pull up a timer. And joey it looks like we have. oops sorry. My handy dandy reliable timer doesn't work anymore, here we go joy, if you want to I think it's. Yes, mean apologies i'm just reading it out of the chat joy, if you want to unmute our member of the public.

[101:03] So i've asked her to unmute I think Okay, I think she's ready. hello, can you hear me. We can continue. Oh hi I am just here because of Martha Wilson I She invited me to go ahead and string this I I, this is my first introduction to this committee. I think it's amazing and i'm just kind of learning and i've been a boulder Community Member for 23 years i've been here on my Latina. i'm a mental health clinician and i'm out in the Community, trying to pursue social justice so i'm just kind of here observing for the first time and learning and absorbing I appreciate it, I appreciate this committee. Thank you JASMINE I don't know about y'all but i'm hearing a future panel Member there and that's. funny said, my first thought was, by the way, we're recruiting soon.

[102:00] But, but all but thank you for being here and thank you for your feedback we really do appreciate that. They I am and I think that's it for public comments so yeah tisha if you want to give. Your update. So i'm trying to stop screen share won't. So go ahead and take a shot. awesome Thank you and i'll be using video as i'm driving now can you hear me as my volume okay. Yes, I can hear you. Now. Okay wonderful so hi you should add up to your pronouns I am one of the co chairs of the Community engagement and communication committee with Victor king. And we have been working our committees and working on a communication and outreach plan, we were able to get some critical information at the top five top retrieved.

[103:00] from other panelists panelists particularly around our goals stakeholder groups that we wanted to make sure that we were talking to people in our Community that we wanted to be talking to. Making sure that we're not only keeping them informed, but we are collaborating with them. To strengthen policing in boulder, and so we have a draft almost available for public comment there's just a few more. Areas that i'd love to get done by the end of this week, so that we can get that posted publicly and will also we've also identified almost 100 individuals from elected officials to the city and county agents need to visit visit is like the Cambridge chamber. really did a nice cross section religious groups affinity group outdoor recreation and really trying to get the diversity within the diversity of our community that will be reaching out. intentionally, as well as offering universal opportunities for feedback over the next month, so look out for be on the lookout for that and.

[104:06] we'll have our next meeting, and that it's open to the public that was my official public comment at that time, in addition to the plan, we also. had some really great media opportunities that I want to thank Arielle and Daniel and joey and others who. were on the folder reporting lab interview and one make sure that those are getting posted we're also working to update the website our section of the website that has the most relevant information. transparency was one of the goals that we identified and so really want to make sure that our meeting, though in presentations recording the builder available are are easily accessible so that's something that will be the next piece of work. And where our fellow panelists. We are working on the media protocol, we have a draft language but there's just some considerations that will need to review as a committee meeting, as well as with the Co chairs and they will be able to circle back.

[105:05] Thank you for your patience around that and then Lastly, we have an exciting opportunity to Joy, or to. participate in the screening of this is not us, which is a film about the lack of boulder and it's just an incredible film I got to see the Gary art Center it'll be agreed on August 25 at the should talk with. Chicago auditorium and thankfully panelists are invited to join and it'll be covered, as part of our professional development funds. it's a really great opportunity, there is a lot in there about the formation of this panel there's segments, the interviews that. darien from naacp and others did to really you know form the foundation, as well as the founding group of force and so. You know if I did hear back from a few of you that you're available and interested it's not too late, so please let us know what I think there's already 500 tickets already sold, which is very exciting.

[106:07] And in addition to that, we also receive the engagement list or some we're beginning to receive. More information or. sounds the way that our police department already engages with maybe to be like cognitive join, so that we get are amplified. touch point but we're also looking for opportunities to engage in existing, whether it be Community associations or. Other ways that communities already getting together recognize that both are really stretched right now really want to. Have a balance between come to us you've got these great opportunities, whether it be a town hall or Community forum but there's also the opportunity to go to where people are so that's all I have at the moment. And I happy to field any questions that panelists or others they have.

[107:06] awesome Thank you so much T shirt and, yes, we did mention that should talk with us, too, and I think everyone actually. asks joy to procure them tickets, so we should have quite a few of us there, which is really exciting and big thanks to all the work you and Victor had put in. To our Community outreach in Victor I think this is the first meeting that victor's had to miss for work and so yeah just wanted to voice that and with just a few minutes to go. Any final thoughts before we all sign off. Oh, I did want to lift up to you, lift up that Nicole Conference and that there were opportunities for panelists. Yes, yes, yes. yeah.

[108:00] Oh good. Who beings well. that's it y'all Thank you I know this was a longer meeting today, thank you all for being here and we have a lot on our plates so we'll be seeing each other soon, thank you for your commitment, thank you for your time have a good night and have a good weekend. Thank you. tonight.