January 23, 2023 — Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:03] Okay, great. Thank you for that, Rosa. Thank you. Everybody for joining us here tonight. We do have a hybrid meeting tonight. This is our first time. So we're hoping that everybody can bear with us tonight in case we have some bugs to iron out. We we're just not sure, because it's our first time. We do have quorum of proud members, so I will officially call this meeting to order at 6 0 1. My first question is, Would anybody like to make a motion to approve the agenda? Sunny. Okay, great. Do I have a second? Is there any discussion before we approve the agenda? Any questions. Okay, Hearing no opposition, the motion passes and the agenda is approved. and i'll turn it over right now to Ali for items of discussion for future board meetings or items and tours. Thank you, Madam Chair, most immediately. I wanted to call the Board's attention, but on Wednesday.

[1:05] here, in this very building, the Tape Municipal Building will be hosting an open house for the Start Places plan, you know. Here, we can share more if you have questions about that. But I know you're interested in being involved in the community and hearing conversations is someone else. They'll be talking about the historic places, planning specifically with the community to support our historic places and volunteerism and other methods. The findings of the plan itself are are less exciting to most community members because they're about asset management, and how we take care of them, even though folks agree they're important. So the other thing I wanted to call your attention to is that there' been some changes in February coming up on February the ninth, and you will catch it. Your next update. There's been some changes. The City Council meeting gets adjust or their agenda gets adjusted every single Monday based on projects in flight based on community contact. February ninth. That that study session is now it will have the out in our community conversation which will include participation by boulder housing partners. Who's the city's housing.

[2:07] It will not have the family homelessness, conversation, a Key City partner is not available that evening, and so they're working to reschedule it and the Sam, the safe and manage public spaces. Annual update is also being rescheduled, they will likely add the city's legislative agenda to that study session on February ninth. So I flag that if you don't want to listen live. You can always find council materials online, and you can also watch it later. Their midterm check in on February 20, third, and 20 fourth is where City Council will review their work plan. So when city councils are elected, which in Boulder is in the odd years, they develop a 2 year work plan. So we're in 2 year 2 of this council's work plan, and they will spend 2 evenings revisiting their key priorities for parts of recreation. There are not a lot of impacts their major projects relate to planning, and they relate to housing. However, we could see some shifts if they make space for more planning focus and support around civic area projects.

[3:07] The other item on your agenda that I wanted to call out is that coming up in March we have several meetings this in March and April last year you had meetings every 2 weeks. That's a big ask of you. It's a big ask of our team, but there's a lot of work to do as we prepare for the budget. And so we're really looking forward to the study session that we'll have with you where we talk about our capital investment strategy and we talk about our fee policy. I believe a date has been set for that. It says TV here, but I believe that was scheduled for April second. It looks like this is missing. Some of those date updates for us. Is that accurate? I believe our March meeting is on the unless i'm looking at the wrong pdf. I Pdf. Says the March meeting is the 27 in person. I believe that means actually the twentieth sorry, and the study session is Monday, April second, and so you'll have meetings. Book. That means for you to break it. It's like a third. Thank you. You will have meetings, book endings for.

[4:04] and break, but not over spring break, and then you'll have your regular april meeting on the 24. So I just. I want to thank you in advance for your time. I also wanted to thank you in advance for your thoughtfulness about how we'll onboard new members to that important work and getting them up to speed, because people, as you know, especially sunny and and they need to, who are so fresh in that you dive into prep right a mixed budget season, and anything we can do to support them and help folks feel comfortable. We're we're here for that. I'm going to interrupt for a second. I'm a little little confused. So when does the City Council gonna be looking at the library? Reallocation. library, library allocation? First conversation is March ninth. And are we going to be asking for a chunk of that? Right? We are going to be asking for about 8 million dollars in that money. So parks and recreation, If you all remember the master plan that you Well, I wonder if we're going to feature board items you might propose to add to the item

[5:01] the agenda. Actually, we can talk about it during our 2,023 action items and the financial strategy how that probably would fit in that conversation. I wonder if you could park you on that question about just about how hard from recreation is managing this financial strategy. Yeah. yeah, we just clicked on. We'd like to submit on Friday, and I would love to share more about that it's probably appropriate 30 or 2023. The other thing. I'm sorry I just want to celebrate that on February eleventh we're hosting this for the first time in 3 years. This is an event for adults and a special small person in their life. It is an inclusive event for families. and it's it's been happening in Boulder for over 15 years, and the team every year tries to make it better, and we're so thrilled to be welcoming people back. So if you're looking for something to do on February eleventh, and you have a special small person in your life. I highly recommend you. Take them on a date.

[6:02] My son is 14, and we'll be going bowling because he's he's not going to the sweetheart, so he'll be helping blow up balloons, and then we'll be going bowling. The age range that we find is most appropriate for this event. It's about 3 or 11 years old. Alright, that's all I have. Madam Chair. Thank you for the opportunity. Yeah, that's beautiful. So next we go to public participation, and for the first time in a while we have none unless somebody has walked in Rosa. Nobody. Okay. So. Anyway, we have no public participation. So we'll move on to the consent agenda. Is that Appropriate alley. Is that okay? I don't. Okay, fantastic. So we're looking for an approval of minutes. I So there's 2 min on your in your agenda. It's november 20 eighth 2022, and December twelfth of 2,022. So i'm asking first if there's any questions on the November twentieth 22 min.

[7:03] or if you're comfortable, making a motion on both we could do that as well to make a motion to approve both the minutes from November, 28, and December 20 December 12. Great check a second. That Oh, perfect, Thank you, Sunny. I actually have an edit to the separate 12 min. Well, then, we have to back it up, and then we'll just approve. November 20 eighth first. So, chuck, Can you change your amendment, or can you change your motion? Okay, I make a motion to approve the minutes from November 2820, 20 and sunny. Are you? Okay? Seconding? Great. Okay, Great. Thank you for that. That's approved. And then so now we'll go to the 12 and Elliot. Yeah. So i'm sorry to do this, but the last page of the minutes has for the bottom of the page. It says Prab had the following question.

[8:00] is your comment. And it, said Elliot, to replace Brock. First of all, I should say hooded. I would assume, because it's me. Yeah. And Ellie, it's also a misspell, but it doesn't it doesn't say what I what it doesn't actually like. Explain what the I believe it was. I was replacing Rock at the planning session for the next meeting which I attended with you, Pam. So if the meetings could, if the notes could reflect that in some way that would be awesome. Oh, I see. So what I we're on folks. Just we're on the same plan. We're on on page 11 of the packet, and under item D. It said there was an emotion to amend the agenda just to replace Brock at the agenda setting meeting, for I had the following questions, and the the outcome was that it should replace Brock. If the agenda study meeting will make that edit Okay, fantastic. Thank you. I make a motion to approve the minutes as modified.

[9:03] Do I have a second? Thank you, Elliot. Thanks for catching that eagle eye that's fantastic. wonderful. perfect. Okay. So the motion is approved. We've got those minutes, and so the next thing we will do is go for the updates. From Alli. We'll pass it over to ally roads, for the parks direct updates that are not listed on the agenda. Thank you. And so I I want to call out that this item of the agenda. It's called the consent agenda, for from a Roberts rules hold over right of items that are not supposed to be controversial in nature, and that you just approved with no question over time. They've evolved in parks and recreation to be updates from the department, and so that's why it's called the consent to Jeff. I know Elliot and I just had a nice conversation about. Maybe, as you you talk about updating the proud hand book, the call thing things. and maybe make more sense, and especially as we talk about being more clean, inclusive and having an environment that makes sense. So here are some updates that you can approve on your and your consent agenda.

[10:01] As always, we have updates from our planning team and from across the permanent operations. There is work that happens every single day that we don't talk about. This is just some highlights, some great things that have happened in the last month or so. If you have questions, there are a lot of really smart people in this room and on this call who can answer them? I had a question. but i'm a i'm a little embarrassed to ask you, but i'm going to ask you. I wanted to know what was the what's the big deal about the badger like? I know that he hasn't been around in a while, but like is he extinct? I don't know much about him. It seems like it was very exciting. Yeah, I love that you asked that question because someone else was maybe wondering it. So thank you for being brave. Our our senior manager for natural resources. Regina Elsner manages that team, and it has some information. Thank you. Regina Elsner (she/her): Yeah. So badgers are just a really cool species. I do not believe they are quite yet listed as a species of conservation concern in the State of Colorado.

[11:05] Regina Elsner (she/her): but they are pretty close, because they require a pretty large home range and an undisturbed home range in order to be able to hunt and survive, especially in the winter months. And so it's just really cool that we have enough Regina Elsner (she/her): land and undisturbed property that they that they have come back to that area. And so, yeah, as you noted, the last time we were able to confirm a badger in the reservoir areas back in 2,008. So this is a very welcome return to this predator for this predator. and he's cute. Yeah, just something on the ecological benefits of having a predator like this on the North Shore, because I know that so a staff we saw a lot more detail right about this, and I just found fascinating the difference just having a predator like this in that area can have. Regina Elsner (she/her): Yeah. So predators, and especially sort of these higher level predators are great for helping keep ecosystems in check, and in particular they, the badgers, tend to pray on prairie dots, so that really helps keep those populations in check, so they don't expand beyond

[12:16] Regina Elsner (she/her): healthy population levels. So predators are great. It also helps us with vegetation management, making sure that we are able to keep healthy native ecosystems, native plant systems and communities. So what is the primary? Regina Elsner (she/her): They a lot of small mammals, similar like I said to prairie dogs. They'll eat Regina Elsner (she/her): my souls other things like that. Oh, my understanding about the address, that you should not. Members of the community should not attempt to approach them. Regina Elsner (she/her): No, that is why we we are very careful about not actually identifying where in the reservoir complex we have found them

[13:10] Regina Elsner (she/her): so. Yes, no, we we are trying, even within our own staff, trying to minimize disturbance. That's why we put out the motion cameras so that we are not actually going in and disturbing them as Well, so. Yep. Well, thank you. I have a question about the north folder part office. Hello! Sounds like we're going to be moving pretty quickly on renovating the bathrooms on the picnic shelter starting next month. I believe that's correct. There's some discussion about collaborating with the Alpine Boston. I am is that seems like there. There are a couple of things for the park. There is like the playground and the immediately surrounding infrastructure for that.

[14:01] and there are bigger issues with drainage that are related to Alpine Boston. Are you separating those out and doing? Going to do the playground this year, and then worry about other stuff later, or you can delay the playground. Do it all on one comprehensive approach. How? How is that kind of you? Just introduce yourself for the first time. Oh, Sorry absolutely. Hi! I'm Tina Briggs Parks Planner project manager on this particular project. So on the North poker, Park playground renovation. They are 2 separate but related projects, and so they are, both of us. Well, one is about drainage. You want to stop the playground renovation, but we know, even if it's like our renovation. We've had some drainage issues with it shooting across the playground. And what we're looking at is, what is the core of that issue? How do we fix the core while we're tearing the playground down anyways. rather than kind of putting a band-aid on it and as it turns out that drainage actually meets up with the Alpine boss improvements that'll be happening, so they they will happen on separate timelines and be separate projects. But we want to make sure that they're coordinated in the planning section. And that's why I've taken just a few minutes to step back to make sure we're fully coordinating that. And then also making sure that we're fully addressing the issues of drainage and the north side. So it is separate, but

[15:24] it's related. Okay, great thanks. Can I just add that we ask the exact same question. We know folks have been waiting for this playground, but it doesn't make sense to not have the powerful approach to drain the teenage Tina's mentioned, and I really appreciate it, because it's one of those times where it's there's there's some good expression right like in for a penny in for a p like it's just it's it. It will be smarter. And how we spend money because we're not measure. Once those are twice cut. Once. I think it's the expression I'm looking for. Here.

[16:00] I had one more question unless the Board had other questions. So on the South South Boulder Recreation center alley. I was just. I was just. I couldn't figure it out. Was it a new pump that died. or was it a pope that died while it was closed like I couldn't I I couldn't figure it out. It was a very old pump that was nearing the end of its life cycle, and we were planning for that replacement, anyway, and it failed. It's it. It failed a little too soon. But you got the Pope replaced so fast, so you already had one on order. I'm gonna let Scott Schutenberger, a deputy director, has oversee for recreation. I'm just impressed because this yeah, from my knowledge, it takes so long for me to get a boiler. P. So i'm like how to do that. We we actually contacted several companies, and instead of just going with the the cheapest product. We also live. It's the timeline and the amount of downtime that we would be faced with, and so we we were able to find a company that was able to to get to us awfully quick, which was wonderful with the holiday season. So yeah, I i'd say, part of it is, we got lucky.

[17:11] Well, I just want the Board to know that what they did was magical, because it is unheard of to get a pump replaced that fast it really is in the industry. So I just really i'm kudos. When I read that I was like you guys kind of glossed over that. But like from the profession. That's a huge, huge deal you did to get that pump going. So thank you for that. Yeah. And and unfortunately, we know already that we have a pump down over a spruce that we need to get replaced as well. And so we're going to try and get that order as soon as possible, so that we do hit the timeline for for opening up spruce for the summer. So, hopefully, we have just good luck. Well, thank you for being proactive on that. I appreciate it. Any other questions before we move on

[18:02] All you also did. Operations updates to right, all in one. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So there's we don't have any action items. and we don't have any matters for discussion. So we'll move on to the matters from the department. So i'm assuming you're going to pass it, maybe to Megan I am. Megan is actually office evening, so i'm going to cover this item for her. She has family in town, and we like to let people hang out with their family. And so the intent of this item you all had an incredible conversation in December, and I I guess I also want to just thank you for leaning into that conversation. I think you're leading the way in the city, and not only being interested in the conversation, but the way you're engaged in it, and aware of the city's commitment to racial life, what it gets to be commend. So thank you for for digging in on that. We said that we would take your comments and synthesize them to see, and that so that we could then pass them along to the clerk's office for some of it. We've missed the boat for 2,023 recruitment that is. have I mean, now, however, all of your comments, if, when we hear back from you tonight, if they're accurate, we'll make sure that they inform future efforts.

[19:08] And so I think this is really we don't have a presentation here. It's just an open comment of Did Did we capture your feedback? Is there anything that we need to add edit or or okay. And I also just I guess this is a a time to let you all know that you will have to vacant. He's anticipated in this upcoming cycle, and you have 5 applications. You're tied with housing advisory boards for the most other boards and commissions have one or maybe 2 prep continues to be a popular place to be. I'll confirm that for you. While you guys start your discussion. Rosa might know off the top of our head. I'll look at 30 first. It's the the 30 first. so we have 5 applications for 2 spots already. It's a historically that give me historical trends to people to like. Do we tend to get the most applications like in the last 2 days? Correct? That is, that is the typical trend. So I I would love for 2 spots, I think 10 at least would be a good number of of applicants to make sure that that we continue to have a strong board.

[20:18] It is the thirtieth Ellie and Ross, and do their stuff. I think we said the 30 first Monday, January. Yes, okay. So whatever you all are doing to help support recruit, and it's working good. and we do have signs up at the recreation centers. I know that was one of your recommendations. It's. We also passed along the recommendation that in the future years we use one of the city's graphic designers to make a a compelling and I just want to say it's a kind of, I think that Staff has done a really great job capturing what I believe we discussed. So this is really good. I did, too, Ali. I was really. I thought the notes taken were very copious. I thought they were really well done.

[21:10] Anyone else. The only comment I would make, and then potentially, it's a question. But we had discussed as part of this plan updating the handbook. and I had volunteered to kind of spearhead that, but we didn't really as a board. decide if we wanted to do that, and nobody like voted to delegate it to a certain person, or establish a timeline for edits to that. And I wanted, if we wanted to raise that now, or we want to table that discussion for next time. for the suggestion of taking that up and matters for board in today's on a meeting.

[22:07] So does that mean we'll talk about it later in the agenda, like in on prep matters, or to add it to maybe make it a C. Or what do we need to put it on the next agenda alley? I think you can just discuss under general crowd matters. Okay, sounds good. Not going to take any formal action or discuss anything substantial or controversial. So I think that's appropriate. Okay, okay, sounds good. What? While? I'm interjecting Rosa, there are 3 chat messages. I I don't know if this is your only screen. I just want to make sure that, like I need is not trying to get in or no. I'm monitoring the chat, and it was my first stop. So No, no, but thank you, thank you. I should have. I should have announced that in the beginning. But it's me and Mary Scott talking about. She was trying to get on.

[23:03] Okay. If it's okay, we'll move on. To Bpr 2,023 action plan. Allie. I'm ready. That's why you're asking the board. Oh, no, I I You know what I did for the kind of question. No, I did. We're moving on. I'm ready. And Rosa, i'm not in the zoom. So if you would pull up this presentation, I would appreciate it's the B. Pr: 2,023 action plan while she does that all to share that we're really excited to share the work we have outlined for this coming year with the members of the Board. The Action Plan, You'll see. We have a graphic in just a moment is where we you just scratched distracted, trying to multiply this, Rosa. It's in the proud folder for tonight. There you go. Look at that!

[24:01] All right, Awesome. And we'll start with, and this slide will be up in just a moment is, why do we do this? Why do we plan? I've been in the department for 20 years. We did not always have an action plan, but with our 2,014 master plan, we made a promise that the plan was not going to sit on the shelf, and that every year we would look at it and say what is most important next. And so if you go to the next slide, you'll see this the Graphic from this current plan that says, Every single year we're going to have this this 5 step process. We're going to look at the the the master plan and everything we heard from the community. Right? You all get a lot of input. Our elected officials have a lot of, input and we're going to use that and develop the annual action plan. And that is where we'll invent the goals and initiatives that are in the strategic plan, but also the fiscally constrained alternatives of the planning scenarios. And so i'm going to present this item with Scott, and we never we never! We never finalized. Who's doing what? But i'm going to have him cover the next slide, because I know that he's capable and ready to talk a little bit about

[25:03] as we do this here. So absolutely one of the important things is, is all of these plans tied together. So we start off with that top level with the city of Boulder. The priorities values that the organization holistically is looked at, and then, Of course our guiding document is our master plan, and so we want to tie everything into our master plan and make sure that those overarching policy goals in the master plan really are addressed within our action plan items. And so what's really exciting about this action plan on the things we're going to talk about specifically today is this is the plan that moves our department forward at all times that growth mindset that we try and instill in all of our staff and really try and continue to move forward is is really guided by this action plan that we've decided to to implement this year, and that's what we're gonna cover. Aside from that, we also have teamwork work plan. So, for example, our our our fitness team or forestry, and and each of the different areas have their own work, plans that roll up into our action plan that that really truly roll all the way up into our border priorities and values.

[26:08] And on top of that this summer. Here we're just kind of wrapping up our performance evaluations and our prices of our staff, and we do some goal setting for the next year, and really look at individual performance goals, and how we're getting people to continue to move forward and think holistically about these plans and how their growth can help implement the and and and lead to success. And it's you more planned and our so that's kind of how this all ties together, and it's a really important piece to to our success, and getting everybody on board and the wheels moving in the right direction at all times. We we call this our that was perfect. We call this our nesting dollars Graphic, because we used to hear from our employees there's so many plans. Why do you plan so much right? And then, but now I actually heard this last year i'm kind of sick of hearing about the nesting dolls, and I call that a huge win, because it means people get it that the message has sunk in at the part of everything is each individual, and that's why it's for just the next slide. I want to tell you that even before we talk about our action plan.

[27:09] that is probably less than 15 of the work that we do 85 of what we do is just delivering this system. It's operating the parts it's operating the recreation centers, making sure that those things are prepared to serve us well into the future. And and I call that out for a couple of reasons, one because it's the work that is, on some, and on celebrated most of the time. I I tell our teammates that they need to remember that on any given day there's thousands of people having an incredible time in our system and in North Boulder Park, or, you know, doing all the different things that happen in our parts every single day, and we don't hear from them. We hear from the person who the water fountain should have looked later, or the other thing, but the work we do every single day. It's the backbone of the system, and it's a lot we have done a lot of really thoughtful work the last really, I mean, we we've done it for 10 years, but the last 3 we've had to get razor razor focused on. How much time does that take for our teammates are tired and they're working very hard. You know how hard they've been working the last 3 years.

[28:12] There's not a lot of capacity for more outside of managing the system. So it's really important to understand that any new initiatives we take on almost always require us to stop or cause something else. If we're going to be thoughtful about our employees while being in capacity. And the other thing I want to point out is that we're about to talk about our 2,023 work, action, plan. It is ambitious. Most of it will carry forward in the 2,024 some of it will be caused or delayed. I can promise that now. because something else will happen, or something will take more time than we thought, or it'll just see in 3 months when we we look at things, we'll think that's not as important. It's going to wait so that we can give more resources to this, or because we just don't have the capacity. So with that I'm going to talk about some of our department wide efforts. So when we talk about what goes on our action plan, these are typically initiatives that carry across more than one of our service areas.

[29:05] They advance an initiative of the Master Plan, and they're typically time bound. They're not ongoing work. So if you go to the next slide. i'm gonna talk about most of these. But i'm gonna let Scott start with the summer spot because he's our sponsor for that item. And I know you guys are eager to hear about what we're doing for staff. Well being that this is my eighth week here on the job. But i'm I'm really excited. I've heard over and over again. Why can we not find enough lifeguards, or we don't have enough park up staff, and those kind of things that we know how important it is for us to have a our Our facilities open at this point, and services happening for the community. And so we've developed a matrix team, and we actually meet tomorrow morning. It'll be our first meeting of the year to get together and talk about kind of our one boulder approach to hiring, training, onboarding, recruiting, and and and bringing in our summer employees. And so this is a a really exciting time for me, especially because I've been able to reconnect with the community I grew up in, which is awesome and working with, See you and the the high schools here in town and some other community organizations. But as a as a matrix team, this group is really going to be focused from

[30:16] starting right away tomorrow all the way through, to get us through the summer and make sure that we're not only recruiting and and hiring and and implementing processes that allow individuals to to have a seamless transition into this role. But we need to retain those, and hopefully it right place to work. So they bring to friends and and people they know as well. So that's the main initiative of the summer squad, and and we're ready to roll, and and the goal is, you know, once we open those after pulls, we really need to be ramped up and and parked it going, and and our camps and all those programs. So it starts now, and i'm very excited about it. So if you know anyone that wants to to work for parts and reg let me know we'll, we'll make it happen.

[31:01] There's a lot in that item, and you'll hear updates at a regular basis over the next several months. But I just. I want to point out, Scott said. It starts tomorrow. I'll just appreciate it. Actually started his second day here, where we said, this is your most important thing when everybody said, what do we want to? You know we many members of the leadership team. We had a reduced level of leadership for the past 3 years, and we said, we're bringing out a new guy. How can he help? And everybody said staffing, and he dove right in. He has met with both high School. He's connected with CEO, and already renewed our contract for student work, study, and working with Pbsd. Workforce development. So i'm really excited to see what some energy and some capacity is doing to this work. It's very exciting. Each of the initiatives that we're going to talk about has a sponsor. That is a member of our leadership team. But to for efficiency i'm going to provide a high level overview. so that, and then, if you have questions. I might tap someone on the team. the capital investment strategy. This is something that you're going to be hearing about in the coming months. In 2,016. We developed a 10 year plan for how we would invest in our assets. That's where we got the focus of replacing Scott Carpenter Pool and the facility of the reservoir, those major projects. So we're going to be coming to you in March with some choices.

[32:13] because we we have it's many projects and this much money. And so we're going to be coming. You and march to update that 10 Year Plan, and we're really excited about that work, Mark, as I was sharing with folks before the meeting. We have an incredible planning team, and they are doing rock solid work, and i'm excited for you to see it and to help us help us prioritize management. Mary, I know you'll be interested in this. You're always either about the beehive data you all are interested in how we make decisions about how we take care of systems. Fun Fact. We launched Beehive in September of 2,019, and some teams were able to take it and run with it and other teams we're not able to get up to speed with because of the pandemic and the fact that we've been just all hands on deck heads down to operate our system. So again, great new members of our team, Mark is, I would say, an expert in asset management many ways, and he and I, along with others, are helping to make sure that we're using our tools so that we can make data, driven decisions and taking care of our assets. So by the end of the year the whole business that across our department all of our teams are using our tools to catalog or inventory.

[33:18] No one's condition and use that data to plan for the management of the system. The Jedi team is justice, equity, diversity, inclusion, as you'll recall from last year we shared with you that city Council accepted the city's first ever racial equity plan in it. It's the work of that is organized around several categories. The first is that everyone gets it, and that requires a training of all city employees. The second major pillar of the city's racial equity plan is to justly do the work. and to make sure all departments can do that it requires that every department have a Jedi team that could do a department scan, and what that will do is look for areas where our services could be. Further in systemic racism. I'm going to give an example here. So I think sometimes that that

[34:05] these are uncomfortable topics, and people don't know what that means. So i'm going to give it an example. If we only operated our part system based upon complaints. we might only hear from people who speak English who have access to computers and who trust their government. There are members of our community who Don't speak English, who don't have access to a computer and don't trust the government. And so, by not addressing that barrier we are operating, assisted the system that is further in systemic racism. We don't want to do that, and so that's perfect scan will be identifying ways that we might be perpetuating racism and ways that we can help make sure our services are more equitable and inclusive safety committees. This is very exciting to a lot of us. Safety is something that is critically important. Workforce is the heart of everything that we do when we need to make sure our people are safe at work. This is a leading practice. It's something that's gone by it over the last several years because of our workload and our busyness. Stephanie Mcgrow is leading this charge department wide. We have a lamb operations team and a recreation team. They are meeting. They are setting their goals for the year, and

[35:10] safety is exciting. Capra. This is the commission for the accreditation of parts of recreation agencies. We wrote a lot about this in the memo, because you're going to be hearing more and more about Capra. So what we actually talked about ways that you might be involved in various Capra efforts. If you go to the next slide, because we're gonna we just talked to you about resources and limitation. I just want to make sure you understand why we think the capital accreditation is important. There are benefits to the community. There are benefits to our team. We can save money. It will drive. Scott talked earlier about it a mindset of continuous improvement. The accreditation process is ongoing. You have to recertify every 5 years, and so you don't get to just check the box and say you're done. You have to keep going. because I have some institutional knowledge. At this point i'll just share with you all that that our teams not really been interested in this in the past. We're not.

[36:05] We're not a department or an or agency that is cared about accolades or rewards. We we want meaningful outcomes and things that make a difference to the community. But in 2,019 we asked our team, hey, this cap for things keep coming up. Are you interested? And they said, yeah, we are. We are because it'll help us document policy and practice something that we can grow in. And they said, because you know what we do really good work, and we want to be recognized that that desire to adopt our policies and practices and and the need to have more documentation came out again during our master planning process. A lot of our processes are really sophisticated. Sometimes they're overly complicated. Something that was set up Another department in the city through an organizational assessment was, If you're familiar with outcomes razor, it's the principle that the simplest solution is most often true. We we tend to apply the opposite across the city. And so that's why one of our models for the year is to keep it simple, and certainly as we can on the cafeteria.

[37:02] So we're very excited about this accreditation. You will come along that journey with us. We hope that next October you'll be celebrating with us. We'll go to Georgia on the National Conference and be accredited, and get to bring that back to Boulder and celebrate with you all, it can be a part of the journey. The question would accreditation, help with insurance costs, or any other any other aspects of They're definitely our financial savings in a lot of ways, one because you're going to be more efficient by documenting some of your policies for insurance. The city self-insured in a lot of ways. But when you think of like workers, comp there's there's 2 chapters that address risk. One is about risk and security, and I I've kind of pocketed that as the environment around us. And how do we make sure that people are safe at work through training with the police department and active shooter drills and safety around different press. That's an entire chapter of practices that will have to achieve. There's another chapter that is around safety, and it's the work that I just mentioned that Stephanie is leading. So what's cool about Kappa is a lot of the work we're already going to do is going to achieve those standards. But chuck chapters 8, 9 specific

[38:12] should reduce cost, because we should. We do pretty good with workers, compensation plays, and employees. But our hope is to do even better, which should save us money. I I think there are other ways where we will save money. maybe not directly, but indirectly. I know we spend a lot of safe time staff time looking for or trying to make decisions on things that that probably are accepted policy, but it's buried in like 5 proud levels because we didn't document. The fee policy is a great example. You're a new member of our team, and you ask me what our fee policy is. I refer you to the May 2,019 Prad Level, where the prab lasts had a robust conversation about resident non resident age based discounts, etc. So that's going to get translated into documents. And there's going to be administrative savings. Yes. so on the last. Slide.

[39:01] And you're talking about your initiatives. the list so capital investment, strategy and asset management, and I've never asked this before. I've been curious about how do you distinguish between asset management and capital investment strategy. Is it seem to kind of play on each other? Did Mark give you like candy and ask you to ask me up to like 9, completely related as management existing facilities. That's what we condition. What do they look like? You're managing those in that the I system? Meanwhile, you've got a couple of investment program looking to build new assets or do what the city calls enhancement replacement of assets. Meanwhile, that cup investment program is also then tied into the hive, as which are the ones we need to bring up to good. For. I don't work in Oregon a typical rule with like 70% takes care of what you got 30. It's like investment in the place a new so it's balancing that, and you'll see us come back and march as a sorry, the able to study session talking to you about what is that balance? And how do we get that right? So you're right to completely integrated.

[40:13] They just happen to run separately, because asset management also has the management of the assets not just in. Thank you. I think that was. I would have what other terms the asset management it is that day to day cyclical maintenance and the ongoing preventative maintenance. So there's a lot more maintenance and asset management than there is the capital investment tend to be the larger 6 figure 1 million dollar projects that take it. Take something to something that's all the way down to fair. It's not just just good maintenance. It's going to fit. I said. It's going to be a capital infusion, so like the new development, you know all part versus like tightening the screws on. That's one example. Yeah, we should develop a good graphic on like. So for a playground there's asset management. There's the there's the safety checks that happen on a regular basis. There's the regular replacement of about swing that that's asset. Management. The capital investment is, what is that? That playground cast? Its 15 year life cycle, and should we be replacing it.

[41:15] it's like a day to do work, order that you put in. Okay enough. That did a slide. We just even for our own stuff, to talk through the between the 2. So we'll happily bring that name as part of the study session, because that helps explain it and helps you make the decisions on it. Okay, thank you. Any other questions before we move to the recreation focused initiatives. I have one. I'm going to be an outgoing member soon, and i'm interest in that Safety Committee. It's one to say that I don't know if that's even a thing. If you're not in the city meeting, like our members of the community, a part of the work. Right? Yeah. Mary, where it might be appropriate, as if you have subject matter expertise, that you could be a speaker to the group. Or if there's resources, you think we should be aware of. You should give us a call on April first.

[42:06] Okay, cause I I think there's a lot of ways where you have expertise and work that you've wanted to be a part of our work, but not been able to because of the conflict with Crab. So I I hope we go for lunch in April. so i'll call out the partnership with the community. Right? Mary connected us with a colleague for our employee workshop in October to talk about mental well being and self care. And it was incredible. We have these resources right here at our community hospital that can help us take care of our workforce. So yes, we'll talk in April, Barry. alright. So we have 3, I guess I want to pause and make sure. Let's do 10 s pause to make sure. There's other questions on those other items before we have Scott talk about recreation. I'm. Okay. Everybody people in the room making sure on the virtual we might need like the 15 s awkward. We've been going to 10, but with with with hybrid we're going to maybe go 15. Just be Really, we can all be comfortable with some awkward silence. The other thing I want to flag is we'll have talk, Scott, talk about these recreation focused items, and then i'm going to talk about how that relates to the Funding Gap and Chuck's question of the library dollars.

[43:17] Does that work? I'm going to stand for a while. Please do it. Do whatever you need to be comfortable. Do you need anything? Okay? Perfect? So in talking about the 3 items that are really more recreation-focused. We want to be very intentional with what we do, and the services that we provide and what's offered the community. We don't want to just have progress, because that's what we've always done. And so the first piece of this is creation of the creation of a program plan which actually ties back into our camera accreditation, which is, is wonderful. And this is really 75% done. It's pulling the information together, and and how we program understanding how programs are operated through our organization is extremely important. From there we go into a feed policy document, and this is what really codifies the existing practices that we're putting into place. What do we charge for the services that we offer the programs that we offer? And

[44:12] and how do we communicate that to the public, and that that feed policy really needs to be something that is, is basically outlining. What is the really what is the support that's provided by external funding. What should people pay? Versus what do they pay? What do we charge? And and looking at the the cost recovery model, and and those dollars associated with that. And so this is a a next really important piece, so that we can communicate to the rowing group. So we can communicate to any user group that we work with. This is the fee. And this is how much we're gonna need to charge for those fees. And and that's supported by crab all the way up to city council. The last piece of that is is really creating a a level of service Just because we can do enough. We should do it.

[45:02] And so really understanding a level of service. And what the needs of the community are this piece? We're probably gonna dive into a little bit more, and it's gonna take a little bit longer to get this one finalized. But we need to be forward thinking so as we're putting in budget request for 2,024, and and further years out, we really have to have a plan on what is the level of service, what we offer to the community. We also Don't, want to duplicate the services that are already happening within the community. We want to make sure that we're complementing other programs that are happening here in the community. So that's some of the focus around recreation and issues. Is there anything I can answer for you on those? Okay. What i'll add is that the level of service conversation ties directly to the library funding. So crowd Members will work back to last day when they, when we were talking about the 2,023 budget, we said, we are short, and we are going to ask for general fund money, and if we don't get it. We're going to come back to you, and we're going to talk about reducing Services

[46:01] City council and approving the 2,023 budget they approved a one-time funding 2 parts of recreation to cover that gap and and central finance said we're going to propose that we don't think the general plan has the funding to provide that on an ongoing basis. But we'll do it for one year, and in that year you need to have a level of service conversation. Are you both? Are you doing too much? And maybe you don't need this much money. If you reduce services somewhere, you wouldn't need more general fund dollars. And so this ties to the library allocation because we have submitted over 8 million dollars in funding requests. So the master plan, if you'll remember it identifies about a 6 million dollar funding gap. based on the math that we did in 2,008, 20 and 21 will cost escalation. Since then, as well as improved cataloging and condition assessments of our inventories, we we have that number a whole lot higher. So we've submitted requests to take care of what we have, so we have

[47:00] request for more people in park maintenance. We have request for more dollars to do better with our athletic fields, our tennis courts, our parking lots, our restrooms, our shelters. and we have request for recreation. We think we're doing really good community benefit work, and we don't want to reduce services. So we've asked for funding for financial aid. We've asked for funding for a for people disabilities, and wi-fi and we've asked for funding to actually do more in the 2,023 budget. We ask for a position to improve our navigation and connection with speaking community members, and with folks who don't typically access parts of my creation services, that one doesn't fund it. So we've asked for. If you think of the master plan, Mostly we've asked for funding to address our funding gap, and that fiscally constrained an alternative. But in some areas we've also asked for more, because we think that the lines for this money, the library money. There's about 10 million dollars that's going to be available because voters approve the library district, and so. whichever way people voted on it. There's now money available in the city's budget to be reallocated. I have heard conversations that that money was being spent on social and structured, so maybe it should be continued to be spent on social infrastructure. So we're making lots of asks.

[48:13] So in the normal budget process the city presents a proposed budget to council, and there is an iteration as a coordinated budget. You, Don't, go in and say, this is what parts of recreation, once it's all coordinated to the city manager. Is this for flex also being coordinated to see manager and has Okay, or is this? That's a really good question. So here's what Here's what the process is right now. Last week departments across the city submitted requests. and they did what we did and said, this is an incredible opportunity for new and ongoing money. Boulder typically can get one time capital dollars right then. Community culture, resilience and safety tax proof with 80% approval. Ongoing money is a little harder. And so in February there's going to be an internal conversation from the executive budget team, where they take all of those requests, and they prioritize them based on the city wide lens. Those will go to Council has a financial Strategy Committee build that them.

[49:12] Whatever package they put together. Council will discuss on March ninth. They're having a special study session on this re allocation so that all of this isn't hashed out through the 2,024 budget process there's enough to has out, as you booked, develop a budget. The idea is that some early guidance will help the city develop a budget that aligns with what council's wishes are. So. chuck, I think the the short answer to your question is, it will happen in tandem with the 2,024 budget development, with an early and early check in with city council about how they'd like to see the money reallocated. I I guess I wasn't asking about coordination with the 2,024 budget process, but rather this this this request is out of phase with the normal budgeting process right. But is there a parallel process for this? For the library funds.

[50:04] or the city vetting it and presenting a package to Council for the library fund realization. Yes, that is happening in the preparation for the March ninth study session. Okay, is that? Yes, yeah. I got a little confused when you mentioned the 2,012 budget. Well, so right now, there's this list city wide of asks right? What would you do with more money? And they actually create some initial criteria right around. It should be either supporting a core operational need. It should be enhancing an existing program, or if you think there's a need to grow or improve a program. You You could do that as well. but you have to show alignment with the city's equity goals with the city strategic framework. So we, our team did incredible work, as always, but they were very thoughtful analysis, and we have 10 submissions that total about 8 billiondollars. Those are getting evaluated by the city's executive budget team, and then the Council Financial Strategy Committee to prepare a package for Council to stuff on March 9 that conversation should give

[51:03] guidance for developing the 24, but it won't actually allocate the money or give final direction. But hopefully, it gives enough information that we can prepare a 24 budget that is lighter on talking about the libraries. 10 million, because there's 400 millionthat we need to talk about Gotcha. So. Is there anything that we, as crad can do to be supportive of this process? I mean, it sounds like there is a whole procedure to go here. I don't know if and and then the and the committee that's going to review the city's the proposal of Council. If there's a role for us to play, or if it goes to council, is there a role for us to play in terms of? First thing? I've been very supportive of of the Okay, so funds that you've outlined that supporting these key equity objectives and trying to improve some of our replace number, allow the bus capacity and expands over capacity as the community has indicated. They want

[52:02] the problem of a formal role. As we developed the 2,024 budget so you saw in your future board. We're going to start coming to you in in February. We're going to outline our approach and our Timeline for developing the 24 budget in March April and May. We're going to consult with you on the capital budget, the operating budget, and you're going to approve the capital budget. And your input should be reflected in that operating budget and the fees and the services we provide. Council typically asks, either in the meeting or in the study session, and the medals will say is, what did the boarding Commission say about this request? And what is their input so it will be reflected formally in that way. As far. As for the library reallocation, I ask the question of how you know Woodwards and Commissions be consulted. What does that look like? I don't think the time is allowing for that in in a formal way. Other than that. everything we submitted is outlined in the master plan that you all had heavy guidance in right. So I would say, your voice is reflected in that way.

[53:02] and all that was my question. I don't know if you can see my hand up was just that there won't be any like behind the scenes coming up with something that we haven't all already discussed over the years of needs in the community like I don't want to say hairbrain scheme, but you know oh, we could use money for a brand new thing. None of this conversation and decisions should happen out of the public eye. Of course that's for people all over this community are dreaming about what they could do with 10 million dollars. But decisions will happen in public view. In meetings like this, and meetings with city council. The Financial Strategy Committee is 3 members of Council. Their meetings are televised and available to the public. That did I answer your question, Mary? Yes, just that. Our our the parts and wreck is not going to your people, who worked very hard. Aren't coming up with

[54:02] brand new innovative ideas that we haven't all discussed. They're basically going off of the needs that we've expressed over the years in a number of documents. It's specifically from the parks and recreation based or plan. Yeah, all of our hopes and dreams should be in that document. Any other questions. Good luck. right? It's an incredible and exciting opportunity. Thank you. Yeah. I'm very excited. I I will not that we get 8 million dollars. But I think we will. We have. We're going to get to see some once in a career generational change. Why is this Council going to make the decision on allocating right? So they're on the March 9 study session. They don't take action, and they don't give formal direction.

[55:02] They can give guidance that will staff will take to hard, as we build the 2,024 budget, so their typical timeline so the formal action will take when they approve the 24 budget, because that's when the money is available. That is typically in October. So the typical timeline is that they have one. It's not 2 study sessions in late August or early September. They have a first, second, sometimes a third reading, starting at the end of September and into October. So that's when they'll have the formal discussions. They'll take action on the budget. But then the study sessions are going to give all the departments a sense of where they want to go is that they're able to come to some agreement as to how this money should be prioritized and spent. So you guys can. Yeah. So again. I mean the city's budget. Overall is I I I don't. I shouldn't make up numbers. It's a lot of money. It's over 400 milliondollars, I think for 2024, 10 milliondollars is not a lot. It's it's less than 5

[56:05] What is that? 5% would be 40,000,010 min? No, Anyway, it's Who's the math person? Brian Barry is like jumping up and down and give you that number. It's less than 5% right. Brian Barry, I don't do the math in my head. It's a small fraction of the overall budget, so the hope is to get guided so again that whole conversation in the fall should be focused on the whole budget. It could be dominated by this library conversation that wouldn't serve the city. Well. I answer your question. Yes, okay. The other thing. I will notice that this fee policy is as Scott noted. We do intend to bring that to City Council to study session in April and talk about the level of service for a couple of reasons. But the biggest is that we know that the minute someone does not like our fees. They write a letter to Crab, or they write a letter to city council, and we want folks to understand the choices that are being made, and the policy that is governing our fees, so that i'm going to steal from Rachel, Friend, which she approved our when they approved our master plan, our Council member said, You're looking for cover

[57:09] absolutely. We are looking for cover. Our team Get speed up all the time about fees. People don't like to pay fees, and we want a rock solid policy that makes life easier for everybody, including our customers. It can be really vague and unclear sometimes. All right, Thank you. Yeah. And I just ask, since I did do that so fast can I leave 15 s for any members of my team if I missed something in it's. We're not all in the room, and so I can't read people's faces if I totally botched something. So I just team this is this is your chance. If I miss something important. Or Misspo, please speak now and clarify and make it better would be great to see their faces. I only I I only see the sheet

[58:03] perfect. Thank you. I see Stacy starting to talk. It looks like you're muted, Stacey. Thank you for coming on. Can I point out that Jackson Height are incredibly business services. Manager, you all know well, is in Africa. So while we've been coordinating all this work, Stacy has been leading it. She has done an incredible job, and as soon as she's unmuted it looks like she's got something to say, there she goes. Stacie Hoffmann: Yeah, great. I just wanted to chime in very quickly. Just on these city of boulders. 2023, approved Budget it's 5 Stacie Hoffmann: 100 i'm sorry, 513 million Stacie Hoffmann: So we have about 354 out of the operating and 159 for capital expenditure so just wanted to quickly jump in and just clarify that

[59:04] that's my ask for them All right. Team Last call Wonderful Madam Chair. Thank you for that moment. I appreciate it, and I appreciate the work of this team. We're doing really cool things for the community. Yeah, No problem, Thank you. Our next item, i'll go ahead. No, no, it's you. We're moving on to the same matter for the program. Our next item is an update on the platter. It's got so slowly. The project manager on this is our city senior planner at Tina Briggs, and she is being organized here to share some information with you. Yeah, Rosa, do you want to? I i'm not able to share my screen for you, but you can the presentations in the back folder as well. You're finding that I might see if we can plug in this desk, so that you know in charge here

[60:17] actually wasn't charging. Oh, no! Go back one. What is that one folder? There you go first one. Thank you for that. Alright, Well, i'll just get started while those are coming up. So we're just talking about the clients, of course. Facilities side Most of what i'll talk about in your mammal, but I have a few extra things I thought the pictures were kind of small, and what I realized I did is I didn't attach the Pdf. So you could hit the jpeg and have a pull up on your screen, so I will fix that, and those images are also going to be available on the project web page. So.

[61:17] and I will just kind of do a quick overview. I know a few of you are really familiar with this project, and maybe a few less so so we'll just run through a little bit of over you with that overview. But the timeline looks like, and then i'll share some rendering of the new existing and new building existing building and parking lot, the existing building stuff and the parking lot you've seen before. But we'll just in case there's any questions I want to have a couple of visuals. So starting with the overview really just remembering this as to a place infrastructure that was just or destroyed in the 2,013. But and it was given by direction from city council on 2,014. So it's been on the plan for quite a while. And then what it really includes is a neighborhood restaurant we heard in the East older community plan

[62:11] that restaurants is something that they were lacking on the East Side. So this is intended to serve not only the golf course, but the neighborhood as well. We've done an outdoor best space, and then indoor restrooms to replace the outdoor restrooms that have actually been on site since 2,014, and then we'll do some renovations to the existing building. Most of the renovations we're doing to the existing building or upgrades that they need to happen. Anyway. Things like Rip doors, windows, and the other part of that is to make these 2 buildings, which sit fairly close to each other, look like at least cousins rather than siblings. but just what we can to keep that updated. So inside this building will be a bar restaurant in kitchen. The kitchen is actually intended to serve the golf course, the driving range. the event lawn, and the restaurant all once it was size to do that, and it was also sized according with the parking lot, we paid really close attention to what that maximum would look like, and making sure the kitchen and parking, not going to handle that

[63:11] next slide. So it's just a quick overview of the timeline. You can see we started in pre planning which is building that scope of concept planning at 2020 to side development through 21, and then 22 has been a lot of permitting and value engineering so as you know, from previous memos that the escalation. Pricing construction has gotten a little bit crazy. So we did everything we put this year terminally bring that down and to something we can afford. We're currently in the instruction. So we are just signed a construction contract with a company called Way Construction, and so I can talk a little bit more about how we contracted them, but they are actually part of a Cmgc contract, which means they came in earlier than a construction, and they've actually been working with us through that value of engineering. So we've actually been going to their subconscious, and they've actually even been giving ideas on material changes and anything like that so?

[64:14] Including the construction that's coming up is a new building, the entire like parking lot and driveway replacement. So not just a an overlay run emissions to the pro shop. and then we're anticipating the construction to try to start in the spring of 23 and that's. Right now we are working on a building permit, so it's. and then on there. We should get comments back fairly soon, and then we'll be able to break around on that one. So next slide. This is really just a view from the golf course. A nice number that one through 5. Just so if we want to come back and reference, I just want to show you guys a couple of things. We know this new billing is going to pay. Take about 9 to 12 months to build, and then what we do, and we intend to renovate the

[65:01] existing pro shop in January and February 24. That's on the tail end of the project, and the reason we have those days is really those are the lowest, obviously like playability, and we want to disrupt play as little as possible, right like we want to make sure the revenue generation stays through our construction as much as possible. There will be some disruptions with the parking lot, but we're gonna do our best to just pay attention that revenue and not impact that piece of that next slide. So right now, where those people are standing, kind of in the foreground. They're they're, I think, our practice screens, or there's like a practice facility there where, like you can chip up in practice. You're chipping where it's like there's a in green part of the toward the pro shop. Is that existing green where you can practice chipping and cutting, going to remain? Or is that going to be but got it It' so there are 3. There's 3 small greens around the Prep. Shop, one of those which will be the one for this to the west will be impacted, and we're going to.

[66:10] Yeah. So it will be. Take it away. It'll be move somewhere else. No, you'll just it'll be reduced to 2. What we'll do is we'll sleep that side. Walk out a little bit, and then what you see here is where those people are standing. That's actually one of the that one would be so. You'd be able to put up one of those large white events tense because we're not able to open it. That's on the inside, and we want to leave the restaurant available for community and golf use and still be able to all the events. Yeah, I think that that that person makes one sense to do that. I just wasn't sure what you can go to the next 5 or so, please. So this is just the cart staging. And so what this is the view is, if you're if you're a golfer, you know the facility Well, you'd be standing at the driving range. It kind of looking at in the existing buildings. Kind of up to the left picture. What you'll see is this is the entrance to the bathrooms, and then just to selected that is, that pick up window that I was talking about, so you could see how the carts are actually kind of

[67:13] meant to flow right, and they're not necessarily crossing traffic. And on that far side where you're able to step by on the 9, pick up drinks, refreshments, and cut back out. One of the things we really talked about is having that quick turn on the 9. It's a revenue generator. Part of it is really to make it easy convenient. Keep the play moving, and then we get more players on. Okay, next one. So this is just from the working. I I we have an accessible entrance with that car. It's sort of demonstrating. Is there's actually going to be a drop offline, a drop off the pickup plane. We do, and it doesn't show on this. But there is improved access from the parking lot. As Well, there's going to be a cross-log and a curve cut as well.

[68:00] and then there'll be a little bit of lighting. So because there is some neighborhood access right now it's currently after dark the whole facility closes. This is something that's gonna have the ability to be open, For example, in the winter, a little bit after dark. So we have added very minimal lighting in the front of the building in the patio area, and then, obviously a little bit in parking about just for safety. you can understand. And this is if you're sitting on the patio. We've been talking about this for a really long time, some of the things. This is a good demonstration of what we have value and cheered out. That's going to be basically a plain concrete base, and where you see sort of the wood on the other side of the roof. It's really just gonna be a little bit more about a flat paint. There's things we just had to give up to trying to get us closer to where we were going to be. But what this should you can see, there's basically like 2 tables deep in there almost so. It's a pretty deep while we're hanging, which should give us a free season Dining One of the other value. Engineering pieces we had to take out was electric heaters at the R that are set in.

[69:06] Our answer to that is, let's wire those, and if we get a vendor in in time, is that something that they could add to it really will extend that they're using the extent of their dining room next slide. Yeah. So this is pretty. Just this similar. It just shows it kind of moving towards the evening hours. You can see a little bit of fire pit back there and then, just thinking of more that it is that neighborhood gathering place in addition to got somebody trying to emphasize that lesson. So yeah, really, Tiny in the back there. exactly next slide. So this is just building footprint overall, so I just really wanted to express the red. It's really the footprint. The blue dashed line is that patio overhang. And then what you say in that correct in the grey grin pattern is where we have the concrete.

[70:07] and then what you can barely see kind of on the bottom of the screen. There's a really like dark light, great outline that's one potential location for an event tent, but that could move all the way towards the parking lot, and anywhere in between. It was more just a demonstration of the size of a tent that could go out there and maybe move around based on mute next slide, please. This you've seen before. This is really just what we're doing to the existing. You can see this is a picture of of the restaurant trailer that will obviously be going away, and just some fairly minimal impacts on the inside. The one thing that we are doing is because we know, pointed like we know brick and mortar sales are reduced, and more things are going on line. There is an additional office space, and we reconfigure things to be any access on the interior.

[71:04] Tina, may I ask a question? Of course, since i'll be gone? But it time you feel this? Do you remember when we were talking about the windows and what we were going to do about the birds? You know that that potentially could hit the windows would have you all decided what you were going to do, because. unfortunately, in the last 6 months I've had so many birds die in my house because they hit the windows. I was just wondering if you had addressed it, because it was brought up like a year ago. So we have addressed that actually we looked. We actually were lying on the National Park Service data and information. and what their protocol is. And one of the recommendations is putting the windows in, and then they actually have a process of tracking. So let's decide how much of an issue it is where the issue is, and then there are some after market treatments that we can put on there. That would be sort of a grid pattern. So more so, I think, in the new building

[72:02] having that grid pattern right like we'll change the way it is looking out, but it's also the cost from the expense of the value engineering piece. So if we track and we pay attention and we see where there's issue, we can put a treatment on the the sides of the windows that are having the issue. So we do have a product kind of looked at what we could add, and it's a fairly minimal expense. If you're just adding it to a couple of windows that are, you know, problems. Oh, that's wonderful. May I call you offline about that, too? Okay, Thank you. I have a question about the main building. The restaurant, so is when people are playing golf, and they want to go get something for lunch. If they're rounding 9 or just. They're done with their route, whatever. That's a different restaurant than the community restaurant, or is the same restaurant that's serving the golfers and the community. Okay, so there should. There's a pick up window on the outside. So the someone coming around on their 9 would have 2 options depending on the vendor. I would venture to guess the right. Them get the right vendor in there. You're online, placing your order

[73:09] and then you're stopping by pick up window, grabbing it, and being able to use the restroom and go. So the way we've actually configured the restaurant, too, is there's a a clear path between, like the kitchen and the bar area which has the open window or the pickup window. Okay? And my next question that if you get your plate for it I get a vendor in there as best of running it ourselves. Correct? Okay, yeah. And you'll get an update from Stephanie on that, I think in the next couple of months, probably March for April. It's on the calendar. Okay, so absolutely. And we definitely envision it, serving the entire community, not just the the neighborhood, but it could be a a really fun place for people to come and hang out, and just a a great location here around, so that's the whole right, and there will be a like her license as well. So you gotta go through that process as well. Okay.

[74:00] We anticipate that being approved and done when we open. Or is that something that we just paid like we'll be of trailing the finished instruction? That'd be a good question. The intention is, when the building is done. We have assigned an approved lease with a vendor who has an approved license right fully open and begin at the very beginning. And so we've actually started last summer, working with the Colorado group. We learned through our experience with Boulder rescue that we are not experts in restaurant operations, and while we've learned a time. We brought in experts to help us with finding great people developing a lease that would reflect leading practices in private partnerships. And they're actually part of their fee is to help us find someone great. So we're pretty pretty excited about it. Yeah. So I I would assume that it's part of the like our licensing process. we're going to ensure that the proposal is that the same

[75:00] neighborhood wide like city-wide, so like the regional facility is not just a restaurant and bar for, like the house is there around the golf course? Correct? Okay, which I know was a barrier to a reservoir restaurant. But process correct. I'll also point out another distinction here is that there has been an existing liquor license here for decades. Tom. the director of golf and his team have been bringing the neighbors along again. Learning from the reservoir experience where we heard from folks where they felt like this was a surprise we have, I would. I would say, we're trying to air on the side of over communication to keep people in the low. Tina, and operations are working hand and glove to keep up communications to keep clear on what we're trying to deliver, so that we don't hear folks say that that restaurant. So I think they're all doing a really great job, and we're going to try and deliver something right for the community next slide. And this is just a quick overview of the parking lot Again, what we talked about before, so the configuration of striving is the same direction it was before. There's permitting reasons for that to leave the striping the same direction. However, we did add the vegetation that I was which you see on each end of those rows.

[76:17] and what we're talking about in this hidden a little bit, but sort of the top right is where our accessible parking is, so we've got an AV station there, and we have a second AV station that we don't need to do per code, but we feel like it's a really good location and and high potential use. And then what we're doing is leaving those islands for potential future ev stations. Something else we've also looked at is, if you look at the the islands that are on the it's East side, but the top of the page. If we put a TV station in there with 2 ports, it actually will service 3 to 4 parking spots. So we're also trying to expand that as well as the use of those. because we know right right. There can be some conflicts, and we're trying to eliminate that as well.

[77:05] Well, the parking spots in the center. Are they gonna be wired up for future Ev access, or will it just be on the island just the islands right now. But there's a fair amount of violence, and, as like you were saying, like, I say, those TV stations to port could actually facilitate 3 spaces. So technology is always proving. So we'll keep watching on that. And we were just we have to keep. You know you have to have so much space for an AV station with concrete base and all it works. So if we were to put in the middle of islands. we would lose the you have sort of the right amount for the high use times. The other thing I would add is that to build on the point about technology always change. I just saw something last week for off grid charging stations that are that are fueled by an overhead solar umbrella. And so I I expect we're going to continue to see advance. In this we see that the electric car market is is surging, and that the charming has to keep up with it's so expensive, and comes at a cost. So I I think I I would predict that if we were to talk about trends and and design that we're going to continue to see

[78:15] starting improvements because people are seeing that, cap all over the country. It's just that clarity of like leaving, basically we're running a on do it that's coming out to each one of the silence. So if technology, as it changes to, there's multiple things that could happen within that without having to take it would make sense to run conduit along the center line of each of those parking stripes. With that you fully access cover on the problem with, so that any one of those parties could essentially have a have an AV charging court at some point in the future. I was a little bit of a discussion, but in the value of engineering is that we're right now that possibility right? You're sending. I think it was, I think it became like $15,000 to do the first you we rose

[79:06] on the on the almost. I don't know eighty's classified as all modes. But the other thing, I guess I just wanted to call out and and connect up from a previous conversation that is currently that frontage on a Rappah, who is a gap in the transportation from a multi-use cap, that it's one that we flag every single time, and try and find, and as we we do see infrastructure funding. I've got it on my wish list for things of conversation this morning, but on the north side of the road, and so then it's the safe crossing. My other dream is that we just build a tunnel that get people from the Centennial Trail on the south side of the golf course to the clubhouse, so I've asked Scott to investigate that if we could just build a channel we need that to get people across the golf course to the restaurant on from the south for a while, like Rich, you know. There's got to be something. Now we go to the next side. That's kind of the end of my presentation.

[80:09] Okay? Yeah. you're muted. Oh, I re muted so a couple of questions. If we are going to do that, chunnel, or whatever it should be rounded, so that. you know, when we were kids, we used to whatever camp out in the tunnels of the highway that was being built near my house, and stuff so rounded edges is, yeah, Mary, I would I should clarify that. I mean facetious building a tunnel for pedestrian transportation is highly ineffective cost costs. There. There are other ways to get people to desire. The golf course. It'll be more cost effective. We'll figure it out. Okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm: sorry. I shouldn't be sarcastic in my case.

[81:03] A couple of years ago we talked about drive-in movies, and I wanted to make sure that was still in the plan. Thanks. Yeah, I'll speak for the operations team, and that that the motto that they have adopted at Flatter. This is a place where everyone feels welcome, and it's not just that they want everyone, even that is, Tom would say the non golfy people feel welcome, but that even if you're not playing golf right, I mean, I don't know about you. When I saw those pictures in the back lawn, cornel, and ladder, and whatever long game you want to play, they got the performances by the orchestra. Scott can answer this, too, right, but I just know what they've been building in the last 3 years, with performances by the various music groups that the drive in They we want this golf course to be a place for everyone. It's why we are spending so much money on it. and I can't tell if the grassy area, if people who didn't drive or wanted to bike, could they put a blanket for movie night? Is I? I don't know. Where would the screen be?

[82:00] Yeah, Absolutely. There's there's gonna be quite a bit of space out there on you saw the the footprint and gray for the the large event tent. But there's quite a bit of additional space, so we would probably look at doing an inflatable screen, and really a a nice setup where we can envision a lot of places where where people could just bring their lawn chairs or or sit on blankets. Yeah, the parking lot on the sort of east. Let's see if I so on the yeah, the I guess it'd be the west side of the property. So you think of the new building in the west side of property? The event one does is adjacent to the parking lot. So there are ways we could configure that. And I think the question really would be, is our people craving right sitting in their car, or they're going to crave sitting on the blanket or a combination of them. There are opportunities for both as a non golfing person. This is really exciting. I've never. I'm very excited to bring my family there. But given that, I just want to urge you to make those parking spaces big enough

[83:09] to bigger than that so that you can actually get kids in and out of your car and open the door because it is impossible. I did some. It's so many instances to park that Scott carpenter and get out of regard, or you come up, come back and you can't get it back in your car. so there's secret. So those are mostly compact parking spaces. What you'll notice, and you can't really talk from the drawing is every other parking row is compact, and the other is the standard parking space, so kind of varying that to fit as many as we can in, but also right, like people have golf bags and children. Yes. and then there will also be a restraint cross lock all the way through, parking lot as well. I saw Stephanie, who's our regional facilities Manager turned on her camera. Stephanie, if you wanted to add to this, please do your muted friend.

[84:02] Stephanie Munro: No, not at all. I'm listening. And you guys are doing a great job covering it. The only thing that I popped on camera on was the movie. So and you all answered it so nicely done. Thank you. That's something we have to get better at is remember, we we have really great teammates in the room and on the computer. So sorry we missed that the first time, Stephanie and I I I do want to add to that. I I think, in looking at Stephanie and Tom's vision for kind of the overall oper of the call. Of course the hope would be Whoever comes and operate the restaurant it's running, you know, weekday specials where you can come out with your little ones. We can get them a putter in the pro shop. They can be on the put in green, and and you know parents can sit and and eat a nice meal and enjoy the indoor outer space and tremendous view, and and really just open whether you're golfing or not. And so, if we find the right company to to run that restaurant, or really confident it's gonna be a popular location

[85:01] where it's it's really going to see a lot of use to be extremely successful, because there's not much else in the area. so that'd be great, and it's fun to think of like I don't know if it's manager call for how different those 2 things are with this fun concept. Yeah, there's awesome. Yeah, let's get people interested. And then what you I didn't really describe on that, too. So the dining room actually has a large that opens up it's not a it's it's it's it's it's. It's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's it' just slightly upscale, right? That you know, right like there's there's a firepace coming in. It's awesome. Well, this is very exciting. Yeah. And I meant when introducing this item to share that both with this item and the next item, it's. It's more informational because we're portable with golf course. We're giving you an update. You gave lots of information along the way, but you know the action plan and the that conversation at the civic area we're poisoning you for future conversations so heavy, and I was talking tonight, but

[86:12] setting the stage for or board engagement like of the year. and I hope we can reduce site visits in the near future. That would be yeah, we would love that. I don't know if we're going to do a ground breaking ceremony. But we probably will do. We're planning that out right now, because I want to do. I want to get folks out there and excited while we're on our instruction as well. So we talked about a couple of things, even the park construction safety corners of building, for example, and potentially having the neighbors of crab out for a small barbecue to just kind of review the site and talk about it. It feels different sometimes when you're on site. 2 people are like, oh, that's what that is, and that's where that is. So we haven't decided what all the logistics of that are. Exactly. And that's that's the plan of the attention. And you'll see Vayner's going up on the construction fence is what it's going to look like from each side. That's why you'll see these renderings that come each side, so we could put banner on each side with those constructor ping as well.

[87:06] So what that that Martin was going to chime in with one. I don't know it. It's like it's a good segue, it's, you know it's your ampere services. Yeah, yeah, my tenth full time. 6 months. But the golf course is one really tricky projects. At the minute the city wide, seeing cost, escalation go through the we've we've seen the ability to hire contractors become really difficult. And Tina did a fantastic job. Anything that you described to basically rating costs and keep the quality of the projects and find new ways to actually think about the design that kept the quality, but safe costs you next. If there are no more questions on that item, i'm gonna give a 10 s pause and continue with matters from the department.

[88:04] Thank you. Well, are we gonna Are we going to go on specific after after the pause? No, yep. There's one more, one more matter for the department. So i'll let Mark. Actually, I'll let you introduce this item. And she home civic area. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. So that yeah of the planning team now is new. So it's probably about just mentioning a few of us characters that are existing on board. So yeah, as you know, I jumped on board it in July because it's the new planning manager. It's part about these real to make that more centralized and focused. And within that team now we've got. We see Tina, Senior planner, and we've brought them to Senior landscape architects tonight. She'll be for this. You'll meet Aaron Wagner. Soon she's gonna working, for instance, on violent parks. You'll be hearing about that. and then we also have Charlotte. This. Come on forward us at planning now

[89:03] and then Tina's recently in a replacement for our cultural resources. So when you see the hyperbole, they can be David. And then, on the other hand the things we've got in our instruction team. That's since we're just looking how we could revive that. And that so we're very excited. It's a new team. That's how he's pointed out for a lot of planes coming out. The hangers moving on to the runway. So that's what you're seeing. These informs is the lift off, you'll get more engaged in projects we're working on now on plan phase One be a specific area, and i'll just mention she always come to us. We design workshop and landscape application, planning for great background. They've actually worked with city and a number of projects that you've got some familiarity. and we're very excited for show me to work on this project because she's got that technical design background along with the planning background. Thanks, Mark, and I i'll say thank you so much. I met some of you before today, and hello to all that I haven't met in person yet hopefully. Eventually, i'm excited to be part of the team, the department and the city. It's really great to work with such an innovative everyone.

[90:17] So i'll go ahead and do the civic area presentation and basically kicking off next phases. So I know It's been a long road. We have quite a few more faces to do a lot to do so. Why, don't you go to the next slide? Just the arrows down below your screen? There you scroll down and hover at the bottom of the screen. I think you'll see some arrows. You can just arrow down now that you've got it.

[91:01] Why, don't you move the Rosa, if you drag the people to the left side of the screen. I think you'll see a little bit more of the navigation. No. it might just be flowing up a little bit. You might need to. Is there a way to get you on camera? Okay. we'll have you. Yeah. People will pop up as they talk perfect. Okay. Okay. So, for this is Jenna. I know it looks long. I'll try to keep it simple and concise, but we'll talk about some of the next phases. What we've done what we're looking for in the future. And then the planning context where we have been. Phase one a: what's completed basically mark alluded to phase one. B. So that's the initial project. Scope and schedule will be working on for the next couple of years.

[92:09] and then have involvement next steps that you all can afford to, and key questions. So still there we go. So in the civic area phases I just wanted to point out. So our 2,015 civic area plan. We had a lot of great planning work done for this whole area City Park, Central Park area, downtown included Pearl Street and arboretum updates. So what we had to do was sort of kind of chop that up right into multiple phases actually get final implementation done. So just wanted to call your attention to that phase one basically the improvements between the library and the municipal Building. So all of that constructed now is what i'll be calling phase one

[93:01] tonight phase one B is actually just. We wanted to acknowledge that Central Park is included in Phase one B. And that was really meant to be constructed in phase one a. Because of budget constraints. We just couldn't get there so it's just an acknowledgment that phase one as a total has split into 2 separate cases. If that makes sense as we go through this this, just keep in mind a couple of questions. So clarity on the scope of work for next phase that one be. And then actually any issues that we should be focused on for community engagement. That'll be some of our next steps. And so we just wanted to highlight those 2 things as we go through the presentation. Just keep top of mind for questions, and i'll get to those at the end of this presentation. So where we have been, I thought it would be a good idea just to recap right. It's been several years. We've had a pandemic. We've had market shifts. So just 2012 older kicked off the civic area of planning effort

[94:06] 2,013. We had a vision plan adopted by Council, and that really included overall 9 guiding principles. We moved into a civic area plan in 2,015. And really what that did was take those principles and marry it with this control plan. So we got the overall vision, and then we got sort of the diagram of concept married together, if that makes sense. and that that really included, like I mentioned Civic Park, Central Park and East and West Bookend. The diagram really didn't include a conceptual plan for connection up to Pearl Street and the Pearl Street enhancement itself. But it definitely outlines that. and the original planning effort as well as the arboretum connection and design. That's all inclusive of this planning effort. And then just a reminder of all the robust public engagement stakeholder engagement, crab counsel many advisory boards is included in

[95:08] the last several years, and we'll continue to go forward with that type of robust engagement in phase one we i'm not gonna go through all of the guiding principles. I just have them up on the screen here. These are the 9 that I talked about before, and I just wanted to call attention to the importance of them, and how we really guided design through these 9 principles in phase one a, we'll definitely be carrying this forward in phase one B. This is what we all sort of agreed on in the community as priority, and with the city and Vpr. So for phase one be. This will definitely be carried forward in the next planning and phase of design phase one a completed. So I thought I would just mention what's out there today, and what we got accomplished. We've got to accomplish quite a bit for the budget right, and they're very beautiful improvements, and I think very dynamic and engaging. So we're really opening up the space with event law, and that multi-use lawn really wonderful native gardens and some new enhancements to heartscape and it plazas. We did a great work on

[96:23] the you player area, which is more of a natural play and water play. Next to the library, if you can remember the Cree clean up and restoration that took place. We definitely worked hard to enhance and create views, clean up the creek and making it more healthy. There was a lot of work done, and that also included these wonderful notes down to the creek, some more access, more views, more engagement, and with that, too. We did a bit of an upgrade on some existing historical seating areas next to the creek. and then sort of the thing that ties everything together is the multi Mobile pass. We did a lot of work on the bike path that will eventually connect to the Boulder Creek area, so giving it a fresher update. I believe we even included a little bit of striping and enhancement on that, as well as that spine up Eleventh Street, so connecting that pedestrian

[97:18] enhancement from each side of the park across the creek, so that we got quite a bit done. and just you know, because sometimes spatially, it's better to look at planned view. So this is really in space one a completed from the library to the Municipal building, including that Creek Restoration, Our pedestrian connections both east and west. the event one that we sort of opened up and plaza and library enhancements. So okay, so what we can look forward to and what we're just as Mark mentioned, getting kind of the plane situated, and we're coming out of the plane here as one. So the project and management plan developing a project charter with the scope of work so really defining that boundary. Right? Like I said, phase one a and one B. Really, we were supposed to include Central Park into the construction of

[98:17] one space one. But since we didn't we can take a more holistic look, so we can step back, and we can say, okay, really, what does phase one be? What should that include? And that's what we'll be working on in terms of thinking about a project boundary doing a project management plan around that boundary and developing a community engagement plan. So we're really going to look at a pretty big area, and then probably really dial it in. Eventually, when we get down to design. we're not a historic district in this area as well, and we'll be back in Q. 2. To just give an update on that. That is also starting in the planning phase right now. So early days on that.

[99:01] or what work hand in hand with planning and development services with that historic district test 2 pre planning. We're gonna have all these bullet points, gap analysis, activity and space activation present study. Really, if you think about this, this is going to be analysis. So the key thing here that we would like to work. That is guiding analysis for phase, one because a lot of area to cover, you know, need gaps to fill in for that analysis on site. Also, we have this newly constructed and phase one a. How is it being utilized? What's working? What's on. You know multiple questions there to survey and ask in game on something that we've already built, and i'll remind us to again there's been so much done since 2,018 when this implementation went in market could have shifted to to what people expect and walk from parks, what kind of program they want to see, how they want to utilize different amenities.

[100:03] So all of that can go into our pre planning work, and those 2 tasks will sort of go hand in hand in 2,023 schematic design. So this is where I talk about getting deeper into that level where we're starting to draw a boundary hopefully. We will. If I go back a couple of slides, we will start to have drawings and illustrate of drawing similar to this that encompasses east of Broadway again, not really knowing exactly the boundary yet, but we're really drilling down into a site. Specific project. We're going to still do some of the analysis with a feasibility study and a market area study again, kind of figuring out if any perception or needs of the public or retail has shifted since then, and how to incorporate all of that into a beautifully integrated part design. Along with that. I know Allie and Tina and Mark all mentioned kind of costs and

[101:03] really inflation, and really having to work with, for instance, the golf course. So what will be key during this phase as well, would be not only the design, but pairing that with consistent cost analysis, right? So as the market kind of has flung into major inflation, and maybe your market will be slowing down, and some things will be softening. We'll really try and keep cost, tracking as schematic, but also at design documentation and see drawings. I probably should have spelled those 2 outlined in Dd. And Cds. But those will, as we dive down into the detail. We'll marry that with cost, and we'll get a better idea of final implementation and construction and task 5. Hopefully, we're kicking off construction by 2,025, and at the same time test 6 and 7. We'll be working on some plans to sort of marry up with a part really looking at the maintenance standards and practices and space activation plan. So those will kind of dug tail together at the same around the same time as task 5.

[102:07] So as I went through all those bullet points, I touched on some of that timing. But this is just a graphics, so you can see really where we're at for this year. It's that scoping and so really doing our homework on what was already built. What kind of gaps do we have in our our current study or thinking and analysis of the site, we'll get into the schematic design. We'll start to kick that off at the end of 2,023, but really get going in 2,024 design development. That's that detailing and final cost analysis will be 2025 and hopefully kicking off construction. And then that overlap with those 2 plants that will sort of overlay the 2 faces of the part so private involvement. I just wanted to let you all know that major activities for collaboration, and we'll definitely be around the programming of phase One B. As we kind of look at scoping and finalize boundary as well as the final.

[103:10] the the final schematic design. And we'll be looking for recommendations and collaborating with Crab on that. And just to know, you know, reminder on prayer rules and responsibilities. You can look to the Prep. Organization and functions document from the Deputy Attorney Office. and the other note, too. As we go through involvement, we will be guided by the city engagement spectrum table from Folders engagement, strategic framework. So this document here is really just talking to how we engage, how often we engage when we engage right. And so Crab can look forward to when we inform, and we'll inform from past one to 7 all the way up all the way through those tasks. As we progress we'll involve grab and study sessions on site, programming and space activation, and we'll consult updated items to review a draft schematic design and multiple alternatives.

[104:09] and then finally collaborating on action items to review the final schematic design plan. Do you know me kind of an ask on this slide? Yeah, when you talk about it it about collaborating activities and programming alternatives and then consulting are sorry, involving on site, program and space activation. Will you clarify those terms from a landscape or perspective because of what I think it goes to a lot of people says this recreation, programming and activities, and that's not what we're talking about. So what if you would clarify that? I think that would be on that. I'm sorry on the program when you talk about site programming and site activities. You're not talking about aquatics and gymnastics. And yes, that's yes, that's a good question. So when I say programming, I'm really talking about where play activities will occur, we're flexible events will occur where we want connections and multimodal connections. really outdoor activity spaces, and some of those will be tied into physical attributes like these structures and things like that.

[105:08] So it's space design it that that same thing happens in vertical architecture. They talk about space programming, and thank you for that. Make sure we are all on the same in the same park. Thanks, Sally. Basic question that it's. It's related to this slide, I suppose, but in terms of Thank you, my community. What other city departments and groups. How to review this before it gets. That's a great question, Elliot, and it brings me to my next steps. So in Q 2. What we're going to be really updating you all on is. I'll just jump down here. This should see, should actually say community and stakeholder engagement plan. So right now, currently, we're going through a plan. It's sort of decipher. Okay, core team of the civic area. We have sort of that team built, and then really, we need to decide advisory boards from there we'll definitely obviously include Crab. We'll be looking to counsel as well. The planning board is going to be involved. Did I miss me. I was

[106:19] perspective. We talked about that planning and design services, transport utilities. And how do you do services? In some ways? It's easy to list that we just have, like those sort of internal multi call team meeting on Friday to stop talking to. I'm going to add a few, because I do think that's an important question, and it also speaks to how grateful we are to have a skilled planner like she homemade, to manage the the various threats that are going to need to come together on this project. So the Arts Commission will provide input on public art for 5 min strategies related to ours that it's not necessarily to relevant.

[107:05] since part one B is, it relates to park at the core, but the east bulk end has some critical city facilities and potential as people talk about it forming the arts conflict. The downtown Management Commission should be consulting on connectivity and relationship with the downtown. The cultural area general Improvement district. The Humans Relations Commission could be consulted for advice on fostering inclusiveness, particularly as it relates to our homeless population, and marks forward, will be consulted on this. I think you mentioned them where there's an interest in the historic district, the library, the mission could be consulted for changes to the library and put on anything that Jason Library. Probably not likely for the space of the project. As we're talking about the east side of the park you mentioned planning board and Tab Ra. The Water Resources Advisory Board could be consulted on Creek improvements, and any proposed flood mitigation. So to to to there are 20 boarding commissions. I think maybe there's 4 that we want to be considering. You ask. People will say, Why does it take the sync along? This is a complicated 5 that

[108:06] it's. You talk about projects that impact cities. This is one. It's 5 years from now. We're going to walk in this park, and we're going to talk about what an incredible space it is, and we're going to be grateful that we are soft getting there and we the the yeah. But but the requirement will manage space. Yes, or whatever is constructed will be managed. But just to kind of find like, and we've got planning and design services. I'm like a key oversight, now collaborate on the largest at the area. And then what's the the hand in hand with you? Who me? Because we have these specific spaces, like the the regions, have Central Park, etc. That will be box Basically, design. I think. There's my clarification, though, that parks will be taking care of all of that one, because that includes, like for Moka, the tea house, the atrium right? And so those right, I think you care, has a part in it but all those other. the

[109:02] So this is. This might be a little bit in the weeds, but in terms of managing property is parts responsible for the entirety of the creek. or is there like it? Isn't just the banks of the creed you you keep that so another. If there is a water and property law in, out out of that are specific. I'm just wondering like whether that's something. and everyone has a different stake in it as you get into the management of it, we've actually locally the that will be part of the big analysis that. And here's the other thing I would add is that I mean, we actually Joe, how do you choose the Director of Utilities? And he was just offering the the way our departments work together for the creek for the reservoir. It's exemplary of how agency should coordinate and partner together. So if there is a piano in the middle of the creek, our team doesn't. Say. Don't, get it utilities right like there is a very strong partnership between utilities and transportation and parts of recreation for the entire length of the Boulder Creek path, and so our team does the day to day operations of the creek path. We do minor maintenance if it gets within a certain distance in proximity to the creek. We will absolutely consult with utilities, because not only because of the

[110:20] the the water, but there's also there's a really rich criterion for that. It's really it it it takes a lot of partnership in the line is is very, very gray, but I think in a good way. Well, I guess this is great. You want it to be. It could be pretty black and white. It is Colorado. Water lies complex, and it's so. We consult with utilities a lot. If you think of like the ever Pearson kids fishing, we have to be very, very careful about managing how much water goes into that pond because it does take away from when it has to be calculated in the city's water water water. there's award that's escaped. Yeah, sure it's it's not water budget. It's our allocation. It's our ownership of water out of the

[111:02] but I think from what we saw from one a. This that's where that collaboration comes through because of the touch of spaces that we created. and that we have a few slides to finish up. Just. Yeah, I just along with that community engagement and stakeholder engagement. We will have that to preview. In Q 2. We'll have sort of the first pass of scope of work. We'll update our charter, and then we'll have more to share with the partnership on the planning and development services. They're working through the historic district creation and timeline, so they'll be sharing that as well. and it's perfect for a question of it. Honestly. Haven't. We thought that up through associate goes. But it's incredible how complicated this problem is, you know, and some of those things are predictable. The human element I feel like is less predictable.

[112:03] and i'm just wondering, you know, knowing how much energy and and resource for put into one a which looks amazing. But the usage, I think, has been really severely impacted by the human element. And i'm just wondering what what. what have you learned from that is going into the planning of one B. So and when you say the human element, is it? Can you speak a little bit more like the the the people who are living there? Who are, you know, closing down our libraries because of met and things like that. So it just you know you're you're You're trying to create space for the community, and that park at the library is amazing. But as a parent I know a lot of people don't go there anymore. They don't use it anymore because of dangers. Host by the people are living

[113:00] in that area. So I'm. Just curious. You know. What What have you learned from that situation that is going into the planning and management of of the next phase. and I don't have it. It's so complex. I don't even really know how to ask that question. So I what I would say is, it really goes into a couple of things one of them would be. I'll go back to that word programming again and thinking about how we're really programming space and knowing that we're going to be doing the work to really study how people are engaging in work in the part that's out there today, and one a really leaning some good information from there. But also, Ally, what was the name of the plan? The engagement, the coexistence? Yes, thank you. The co-existent plan that we have that can guide us in helping, working with multiple user groups and people found around the city who also need access to multiple amenities, but in a.

[114:06] So we do have that plan that we'll incorporate in and work closely with that. Do you want to just go back and schedule it. Second. So I think this will help this is it's it's a main topic of conversation. How do we make? Space is successful for everyone in the community, and you know that looks amazing, right. But then, you see, see something new which you want to see before the design plan is, yeah, the dog blue to last rooms. and those 2 rows are saying: While we're moving through design and construction, you do design construction. You walk away, and then people come in like social workers, volunteers. Junior ranges would be that they can open space that back of it Space, you've programs. But that all happens after the box constructed in the. So the so Google here is to bring in blue. It seems like the operation side. But how do we send all that space like? So people are looking at the design of the construction.

[115:12] and then in the blue it's like that. Is that activation to what is about like these spaces to be successful. So it won't happen to. And then we're planning on hopefully, being able to use sort of the funding to look at the space for 3 years and actually make adjustments. Okay. So that's it's there's no perfect solution to this. And how we will point to that. But at least in this we'll protest on time to the Houston space. I think more closely with it. That was both of you. Answer that perfectly. I do want to. I want to add something about the phase one a and the use of the park. So when that park was completed we had great hopes and dreams for activation, and concerts and vendors, and

[116:02] we we were on a really good trajectory of that until 2020. So if you look at our position reductions in our funding reductions. We took away funding for events that couldn't happen right? So it's not like we. We defunded activities that were happening in Central Park. There, said one of the godfathers of of, you know, Parks planning who was a commissioner with the art of recreation and then work for the trust for public land. He. He said something to that session. I was at once that I just we live by with this is that a multiplicity of positive uses is the best response to negative uses, and we've not been able to do that in the area phase one due to the pandemic ally. Can you repeat that? I didn't. I didn't hear that a multiplicity of positive uses is the best response to negative uses. And so, when we talk about how we design the space. how we use the space we want to see. She only had lovely pictures of the park and people in it on a vibrant market. Saturday. We want that happening 7 days a week. Right? We want that fostering. If If people are living and working downtown, we want them in the park

[117:12] all day, every day, and and we need to build that. So in addition to with this second phase of the part, we have to revisit the work with the first face of the park. And how are we funding and setting it up for ongoing? I'll mention you said earlier. Your department's going to manage the Park. Yes, and my dream is that 4 years we have a strong partnership with people that are operating this park. You look at great downtown civic spaces. They are not operated by the city alone. There is a partnership. There are many, many people, including nonprofits that are operating the space. A micro example of that because it takes the partnership with the downtown boulder partnership to make that space work they pick up where the city can in not only operations and maintenance, but in the programming that they do. So you name an activity that happens on the Pearl Street Mall? We don't make it happen. I I do with Chip all the time. We get great credit for my welcome that we do the tool of give away right. But the concerts, the the festivals that happen on them all. That's the downtown boulder

[118:14] partnership. So my hope is that in tandem with this project we design a backbone and an infrastructure that helps make sure that this part, if it if pearl streets the heart, and in the civic areas the soul, it is constantly looking like these pictures we don't have. I want to be. We don't have the answer right now. She only mentioned a resource that we started to use with the master plan where we talked about space values and including with members of the homeless community. We're going to continue this, that conversation in this planning process. We're going to talk to people about behaviors. The intent is to destigmatize the members of the House community and others, and just talk with people about behaviors that are okay and not in public spaces. Those are the pictures. Thank you for bringing that up. That's right like this is useful.

[119:00] so it's a great presentation. Could you please go to the plan view that sort of shows connection across canyon. Yeah. I guess that that's good right there. So there you're showing connections up to the are, you know, so so defining the scope of this is going to be really tough, right city on property. You've got some privately owned property that there, to the south of the World Museum contemporary art on Thirteenth Street. And you're showing these important connections. They go across canyon linking up to downtown to the Pearl Street. Mall these equally important connections that are going to go south. the hook up to see you. The hill, the New Hotel Conference center. That's there which is just really distress the stressful condition. There are missing connections that you're not showing into the Gospel neighborhood across Fourteenth Street. past the

[120:02] and on fourteenth our team is going to be occupied by a new bus terminal soon, so Rtd. Will be parking buses along there and having stops there. So those connections to the East are just as important as the ones to the North and South. So I don't envy you with defining the scope of the I can't give you an advice. But I wish you a lot of luck Actually, in transportation. We just discussed it. Yeah, this is a big one moment. What we do want to do is it's like the 2,015 plan gives us great guidance to you know. Phase one. It's being years 8 years since that was developed. So that's still this point with blue blog. We're gonna look at it. It's not a fine boundary yet. We'll be able to then see. Let's do schematic design.

[121:01] and we might come back and be like. This is how much we can do for this won't be, but we will quite the face to. We have clear a cost, estimating which then will allow us to then from those projects and in sequence, so it keeps the whole thing moving forward. and and as we get into this there might be simple reasons like we need to do the other reading path now, because he is developing Conference center. and there's a way to fund that. Meanwhile we might be looking to the north of here thing. But let's hold up on those connections, because that was urgent for it to be a matter of cost which once we have to prioritize. So that's the important decision we'll be making in about a year's time. That and thanks for seeing good luck. I have to try it. It's it's it. You want things to go your way. But man with the brains around the table. I feel like a thoughtfulness. They they oh. they bring me these like 2 years. Why is it going to take? Oh, this is why it's going to take so long because they're going to thoughtfully right if we're going to before there's so many different metaphors you can use right. But we're we're going to then a beautiful civic area scarf, and they're making sure we have all the threads first of all, in the same room right before we start, Nitty, do we all agree on the pattern.

[122:13] and and I'm really grateful for the thoughtfulness with which they're steering this plan. Yeah, it's a super important crossroads from a transportation point of view. There's a bicycle commuter right? So you've got the creek path running there east, west. You've got the the older multiuse path coming down past the all the All fields by the High School, crossing Thirteenth going down 13, crossing onto Thirteenth, going toward the Pearl Street Mall. So it's it's a super dynamic an important area that you gotta get right exciting. Okay. Anyone else online.

[123:00] Oh. thank you. Inaugural presentations of the. And she told me you made it. and then that wraps up matters from the department for tonight. right? And I'm. I'm very sorry to do this, but I need to go, and I've talked to Ali and Rosa before, but i'm going to pass the meeting off to Chuck right now. I most of you know that I commute, and I work in California. My city that I grew up in Monterey Park had a massacre this weekend. It's my city. I grew up in it Monterey Park, in Al Hambra, and they have a vigilant now, and i'm I I need to get. I need to get there. I thought we would be done by now. But, Chuck, you know how I feel about the next matter. I just ask that you keep us in your prayers because i'll hammer Monterey Park, Pico Rivera, Montebello. It's like Lewisville, Longmont. older. superiorable room field. It's the same. We're the same. So I ask that you keep us in your thoughts and chuck i'm going to pass it off to you if you don't mind to handle the last 2.

[124:06] Oh, that's fine, thank you, and good luck. I think about it. Thank you. Everybody appreciate, appreciate your support. Take care we have a new next time. That's actually we have none. and that matters for the discussion. Information we have none. No, we are you those. So now we're the matters for Board Members So National Board. We have hybrid meetings. discussion about how they want to move forward with hybrid meetings. and then we're gonna discuss alliance proposal to what was your proposal of a handbook provision to the yeah. I don't have a proposal that I just gonna initiate the process. Okay, Good day.

[125:00] Okay. So hybrid meetings. Do you have anything for us alling on how how we're going to do hybrid meetings in the future? How we're going to handle public participation. Yeah, the so this item. these 3 options. our free comments came a more about as Russia and Chap. And and I were coordinated for the first meeting. One was just for civic dialogue, making sure that Board members know that even Board members should refrain from using the chat, so that all comments are recorded for the community. So the best way, if you have something to add is to raise your hand as Pam noted earlier. Both she and Rosa are monitoring the chat. So if something does need to be set out loud, it will be. and then for attendance. We wanted to call out that as we publish your packet, we're gonna we're going to share what we believe to be the tenants that'll help with food, planning. It'll help with the chair and vice chair with meeting facilitation, and it'll also also help. Make sure we have a forum. And so I think that what we saw is we would assume you're going to be there virtually in like or in person, unless we here otherwise, but that

[126:10] you all can decide if you want us to do that, everyone. if that's helpful, we find out for for many planning. And then finally, why Don't, we publish the packet we were wanting to get information for you. There was a question of. Could you choose to have a virtual old meeting? We didn't hear back from the city attorney's office on this, and and you can. I'm going to pull up. I want to pull up the language from the city attorney. Really quick, if that's okay, just to. So here's City Council in advance of this discussion, where meetings went, hybrid updated the city charter to allow for remote or I'll say, I say virtual, because remote and workforce Language means you're like in another state. We're just saying virtual, regardless of where you are, you are virtually participating. And so

[127:01] i'm going to stop talking for a minute, so I can find this quickly. This language. the important thing to balance, i'm still looking. But the important thing that we have to balance it, that that the meeting of the community and the public is conducted in public. and so the Prep. Cannot decide to have a meeting where the public is not able to participate. So if your meeting is entirely virtual, then the public has to be able to participate entirely virtual. Rosa, are you able to take it? The life of me? I'm trying. I'm looking in my email to find. Oh, I know because I filed it in an important place, so it's not. We're going to document. This is part of what should get documented in your handbook. This language, and Elliot, I think I forwarded it to you so that you were aware of this direction and this conversation. So

[128:14] city Attorney way to give us the exact language that said, basically You can have a meeting or in person, you can have a meeting virtual only. But if you are virtual, only the public should be able to participate it, it should be only because of a public health. Reason is when you should be virtual only, or if there's no opportunity for public engagement. So, for example, city council, holder, City Council has elected that their business meetings are going to be in person. Board members may participate virtually, if they need to, but in general they will strive for in person participation. Their study sessions, Don't, have public engagement, so they are entirely virtual. So really the key trigger here is, if there's public engagement, you want to allow people the opportunity to either come, speak to you in person.

[129:03] or virtually. We know that people have preferences both ways. This has been one of the great learnings of the pandemic for public engagement. We've seen members of the community participate who never would before, because they're not going to come down to the Tate Building on a Monday night. We know some people that find that a barrier, and so that if there's a meeting that has public engagement, the meeting should be hybrid. So that's the general guidance. I will find that language, and I I think I passed it to Elliott's, just to put in his folder that he's going to start for the scan book. Oh, bless you, yes. old place, i'll see if I miss something, I think I got the just to that. But and what we technically be capable of handling hybrid meetings on every meeting. Can we Just pause right now and give it's so very well, right like. So yes, depends on the facility, though. Right? If we're meeting in this room, it's gonna work if we're meeting somewhere else. So here's that's something for you to think about. In the past the crap had rotated where you had meetings. There are 3 spaces city wide that are set up to facilitate a hybrid board.

[130:09] I mean you don't be limited in where your meetings can be if they're already. So the key message from Sandra is that the city's Border commission's ability to exclude or limit the public from in person. Attendance is limited to meetings where there's a public health or safety concern. So if you're meeting in person, the public has to be allowed to be attend. and there's no prohibition on meetings taking place completely, virtually, or both. The members of the public and board members are virtual. So I did misread that you can have a meeting in person. You can have it hybrid. Whenever and as much as you want. You can have it virtual as much as you want, but the but members of the public have to be included. Gotcha. So I believe that where we left it last time was that we were going to push for in person to the extent possible with

[131:00] people who were out of town on travel or at other family reasons, they couldn't attend, excused, and able to attend remotely. Is that something that we're comfortable continuing like that. Do we want to continue to push for in person to the extent possible? I wish Anita was here because she really is, I think, a proponent of. you know, having the option with her disabled husband and child. Care issues just so she could weigh in. I'm. Here, Mary. Oh, good, oh, good. So then we'd love to hear your input on this. I can pay you. Yeah, I I just would love to hear very much your particular opinion on this subject, if you wouldn't mind.

[132:04] No, I don't. But do you mind repeating the question? Because I lost a little bit of the audio. Thank you. Well, Chuck, do you want to restate? I mean I don't. I'm sure I I think that where we left it in the was that we were. we were most comfortable with having in person. to the extent possible. with the exceptions of people who are on travel, or who had family emergencies or issues that will that require them to attend remotely. So with the with the emphasis on in person, with a backup being remote. Thank you. I oh, hold on 1 s. I'm trying to do the I don't have a an option for a video. I apologize. so I always prefer in person. even though at times it might be difficult, but I just feel like it's more beneficial.

[133:06] So I do prefer in person, with the option of doing virtual when one is just challenging. That's my opinion. Thank you. Great thanks for that's very useful. Is there anyone with a with a different viewpoint that would like to express it now. or the same viewpoint, for that matter. wanna make sure we're not. You know that we're considering thing, people, persons abilities that we might not even be thinking of right now, just because it's not our life. Yeah, You know. single Moms persons in wheelchairs, you know things of that Nature who really would like to be more involved. But Canner is someone without a car who it's really a production to get, you know.

[134:01] just want to, because if we decide this, I mean. Obviously, it could always be changed. But we're just going to make sure that we're getting a wide range of options for anyone who might apply to the board. That's all. I I think this gives us a preference, but with the flexibility to handle people that that are not able to attend in person. So I just want to add something. I I really appreciate everyone thinking about this because I feel the same way. I feel like if someone is committed to the meeting. They're gonna try their best. but if they have a challenging situation or they can make it. For some reason I I would love for them to have the option because they can. Still. they can still be great members and and cooperate a lot. Yeah, I I agree that that's a very good point.

[135:03] Okay, I think we're in agreement on this, so I guess it sort of moves us naturally toward the the because this would be incorporated into the Prep Handbook. That's. Yeah. So I think we at the last meeting with the last 2 meetings we've discussed the need to update the grab Handbook, because it is, you know, wildly out of date for a variety of reasons, and I had volunteered to take a look at the handbook. I know, chuck. You've looked at it as well, and you know you agree with that point that it needs to be updated. I would propose that a subset of us be delegated to. you know, actually tackling the revisions. and, you know, proposing edits to the full board for their consideration. And i'm happy to be part of that subset of people in concert with staff from the Department. Of course, to make sure that we're

[136:02] I doing things correctly and need to, you know, consult with it. So you turn this office for necessary. So i'm i'm proposing that as a plan, and i'm more than happy to be part of the subset, and i'm more than happy to like. You're at the whole effort. But I do need the help of at least one additional credit member on this effort, because I don't have all the answers. So so I think we are limited to having one additional person, because beyond that it becomes a meeting. Right? So. Is there a prior member who would like to participate with on this topic? Understanding that we don't have Jason and Pamela is gone. I mean, I would. But I mean graduate school is really challenging. I so I I feel like it would be remiss to not have do a little bit of it before Pamela and I leave just because we do have the 5 years and at least have some.

[137:07] I don't know. Everybody should have some, Input but I I don't know that i'm up to being the main person. I don't know. Elliot. What do you think? I mean? 20 h. 6 h to get through it. Yeah, I think 20 is probably more accurate in terms of actually, you know, reviewing what needs to be updated. And then. you know, revising. And I kind of pour over stuff, probably longer than I need to, just because that's what I do for a living. But. bye. you know, in terms of timing. When is your last meeting, Mary? Well, I believe it's March, and then we passed the baton. So April we show up for 10 min, and obviously it's more of an alley question, I think. And we say, Hi, goodbye in April. And then, you guys.

[138:03] the new people get sworn in. Is that right, Ally? The goodbye is typically at the March meeting perfect. So I think that's what I mean, Elliot. There I don't also have. We don't have a lot of time. Pamela and I, but i'd love to see it before it moves on into that should be a problem, so we could shoot for having. When's the February meeting again. I have 27 it, and it could be, I guess, a proposed, a a moderate path forward could be that Eliot consults. We. We have the handbook and a word document. You can marry. And Pam, with their knowledge and tenure, could site flags of areas where they think like this is an issue, because and not be tasked with the solving of the issue, and they get the easy job of just saying what doesn't work, and why it's an issue. If you don't want to compress the timeframe too much

[139:05] by project with some people who are spearheading the effort to actually put time to paper. So what I would propose is that we have. and this homework assignment for the Prep. Where we are all tasked with between now and the February meeting. Going through the handbook and reading it, identifying areas that we believe need to be updated and discussing that at the meeting in February and actually having robust discussion, you know, it could be a 5 min discussion, but at least where we, as a group, go through and party things we wanted fix, because that is a time when we're all going to be here. and it's going to be an official meeting. And then between the July 20, seventh, and the official march meeting, not the study session. We will proposed revisions to the group. And that way you guys get to have input, in your last meeting of what the revision is like in.

[140:05] and then we may not actually say this, is it? We may say we need to do some more from that, or there's a chance. We say, this is great. Let's adopt this our new handbook. That's my proposal. I think it might be nice, though, to get as far as we can by the March meeting, and then have a little something for the new people to to do. I mean, I know they're new, you know the brand new members, but to before they even get here to put something in place that they're going to be a part of for 5 years. It seems a little like we're speeding through it. I don't know. I know it takes 6 months to kind of get one's head wrapped around the the position. but if you think it's that easy, Eliot, just to kind of do a few revisions and turn it out?

[141:00] No, it's an interesting point about collaborating with the new piece. I just I mean I I think we should give them the opportunity for sure to do that. So what we could do is if the April meeting is the is their first meeting. We could present the proposed changes to them as part of the packet, and, you know, encourage them to read revisions, and then at the meeting they can. We can have a discussion about those proposed provisions, and if they want to comment on them and propose any changes they can, and we can always decide to allow an additional month of review. I mean handbook provisions for boards typically take a long time because they're They've existed for a while, and it's hard to change things like that, because it involves procedures that are gonna last a lot longer than the members that are currently sitting on the board. So if this goes on for a couple of months beyond March, I find that that and I agree we should involve the the new Board members as well. I just wanted to make sure you guys have adequate

[142:04] by invite. I also think, in the welcome letter that was one of my contributions to years ago that maybe you could even have a, you know. Welcome to the Prab, and please read the Handbook because our first media it. Just it's nice being when you're a new member, to have something that you actually are tasked to do instead of just passively, and she initially sitting there like, what should I be doing? Kind of for more fun and engaged to come in with something you already supposed to have? Kind of Yeah. Yeah. So this will get them to read the handbook, too. I'd be supportive of you and I'd be happy to read the Handbook and provide you with comments. Hey? For the next meeting? Great. awesome

[143:03] question, just to make sure that the next step happens. Are you stewarding this assignment and getting the information to each board member, or what is I'm just thinking functionally, what does that look like? Especially because Pam is not here, and Chase is not here the existing awards, all members. Yeah, and that that way I don't have to reach out to everybody, and you know. And then we all come to the next meeting with our thoughts on where to revise. And then, after that. I and the other person working with me should have a pretty good idea of what we want to do, and maybe we filter, and it's if people use a word document, we filter those edits through staff so you can compile them. And that could be something we discussed at the next meeting. Yep. So I think Rosa will just be your project manager for this. Okay.

[144:00] So yeah. So right now, it's really all of us are are tasked with coming to next meeting with. Some proposed that it's, and obviously that's not gonna it's not like everybody has solved problems between now and the next meeting. But it's a good chance for us to really dig in and figure out. What do we want to change? Especially for people who are going to be on this for for a number of years, like There's an incentive to make this this process, and then make sure the handbook is clear that make it technical suggestion, and I don't know if this will cause a proud meeting. But if Rose, if you will share it from your on drive. Everyone can work on the same document and see that it's. I would advice it gets that. But I like the idea the efficiency is follow the rules. Yeah, I I do, would ask that you consider to as you get into this process, how to avoid words, that thing. And in groups like, just because that's very chat. Once you've done it with boards. It sounds like, so you'll have. You have trips and tips and tricks to make it not painful? Yeah. So focus on concepts and issues, not words that will. That would be great advice to have in mind. Okay, yeah.

[145:10] Big picture stuff. Okay. ally something that I just thought of, or maybe more, Rosa. In the old days we used to have name big name plates when we were in the Chambers. and I think with hybrid especially, it's very helpful to, you know, especially for new people or community members to be seen to be reading people's names. Yeah, we'll follow up on that tomorrow. Thank you so much, Mary. We'll get a more to make sure we have them for the February meeting. Yup. Okay. thanks very much. I think the final item is Prad matters. This is your chance to bring up any interactions you have in community members that you want to bring to the attention. the with the crab. anything you've heard, anything you can participate in.

[146:00] and didn't we decide Chuck, that it's also any concerns or questions or comments that we want to put in. Yes, those are not that are handled by direct communication with Staff. so those that you want to bring to the attention of the Crab Overall. Yes. so i'll open it up for anyone who has anything they like to mention. Discuss. I just mentioned that I was lucky enough to go over to North Boulder. We had a big snow, and that was awesome. It was just full of people. We were able to be a group of kids at the Park and actually get around on our own. And it was. It was just marvelous. So you were in the park down the recreation center. We were at the North Pole. Okay? Sorry. We were skiing, and the kids were making it. So it was really cool, seeing lots of people enjoying the weather and so and then rooms. rooms, trail. So

[147:01] it's good stuff, and then that grooming is done by some by a partnership with Boulder Nordic Club. It's awesome. They do it there. They do it for the Host Community Park, and it costs us nothing other than coordinating with them, and it's it's pretty cool, and they do take donations if you really do it. I met with, or I've communicated with the veterans crew. It was concerned about the build our park, and they wanted to express their appreciation for communications they had with Staff, and are moving forward and getting. or at least making some progress toward getting that back installed, and maybe something bigger. So thank you, Staff from them. That's t this work she knows on that note, I I think is again being outgoing. I really really like the idea of just placards everywhere explaining parks. I love the ones at end car the nature ones.

[148:03] I think it. It is a really big contribution of a city to citizens and visitors, and such to have everything from the name changes at the parks, you know to weather patterns and such, so that it sort of put that that plug in. That's been on my mind and on that vein I spoke to a committee community member my my wife. package for tree species at some part for some subset of the trees. so especially parts that have a wide variety of trees like North Border Park. Again. say, this is whatever we Unfortunately we have an issue at, generally speaking, for those disappearing. Interestingly, they collect this items. but it's it's such a good idea. It's too helpful when we could do it, and there is maybe we can do QR. Codes well as you can, if there is. can I just give you 1 s

[149:01] cold? The science officer Osmp. Gave me this app called Seek. and you put the camera next to the treatment identified speaks out. That's a fantastic tool that we wouldn't treat them not going to that. It's kind of nice to know when you're looking at it very quickly, because you know we were thinking of new trees for our house, and then we see that's beautiful tree, and we like how it changes color, and how it looks all throughout the seasons. What is it, you know, like Chuck? Are you aware of the resource on our forestry page about recommended species for roller in our comment. Anyone else for prime matters. Okay, I think that includes our general first good job. So with no further business in the crowd. I guess we will join the meeting. Thank you all for thanks, Ch.