November 28, 2022 — Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] Yeah, she's here Ali Rhodes she/her: perfect. So we're at Great. Ali Rhodes she/her: Here we go. Did you say we could start? Is that is that your way of telling me to go, Madam Chair, if you're ready. Okay. Sounds good, and we'd like to call this meeting to order, and it is now it is six o one. Thank you for everybody being here, and it's a nice cold afternoon evening and boulder it's beautiful outside, so i'm glad um we're inside today. Um, we have. We do have a core of mine. I know we're missing two, but we have quorum correct. Okay, fantastic. So officially, call this meeting to order um. Would any one of the um crowd members like to um make a motion to approve the agenda? I'll move, Mary Scott. Thanks, Mary. I can't, because You're on the phone. I can't see your hand yet. Do I have a second?

[1:01] Oh, second, Very good. Oh, Elliot, Hi, I didn't. I didn't see you down there. Thing. Okay, Great, I can't get my video to turn on for some reason. So that may be why it is enabled pretty quickly here. No problem. We got Mary Scott with the um motion, and I put chuck for a second. All right. Great alright. Thank you. Um. Now we'll move on. Hold on a second. Um, Are we gonna do? Are we gonna do the future board and Tours? Now? Ally: Yeah, Okay, alright, great. I I remember from the retreat. Thanks for bringing that up, Pam. What I remember from your retreat is you wanted to leave it here earlier in the meeting, so that members they are here for public participation could also benefit from your. Ali Rhodes she/her: So we will now pass it over to Ally, who is going to present our and highlight our upcoming activities. I can do that. I'm going to share my screen. So I think we agreed that that would be a process improvement. Also your retreat if we were looking at it as we talk about it.

[2:03] So that's good. We can see you. Ali Rhodes she/her: Hi, Elliot, i'm also gonna take this moment since I have the mic. You'll notice there's a new member of our team uh with our video on Scott. Shootenberg is our new deputy director for community service. He joins us from the city of Greeley, where he spent the last five years, and started his career actually in campus recreation at the University of Northern Colorado. We'll have a month more in depth uh introduction in your December packet, and i'm certain you'll be hearing from him in the months ahead. But he's here, and you'll see his name on some items so wanted to introduce you all. We're Ali Rhodes she/her: very, very glad that Scott is here to help uh lighten the load for some of the heavier projects we have ahead help support our team. Um, So you'll and you'll hear more about that in January, when we talk about our two thousand and twenty-three work plan. So let me dive into that what you have coming in the next few months. So in December uh the reservoir team is gonna come up with you with their annual aquatic nuisance species. This is a very similar update to what they'll share with the Water Resources Advisory Board. They're working closely

[3:03] Ali Rhodes she/her: with our colleagues in utilities as a reminder. Uh, at the end of the season the State did identify, or Eurasian milf oil in the Boulder reservoir, and they since conducted a survey. So the team will be giving results of that and and how we plan it to manage water quality at the Boulder reservoir, this golf course. Item. I want to know. It's in italics because we knew it was tentative. That has indeed moved. We're going to move that into the first quarter. When we have a more thorough update based upon funding and based on the project timeline Ali Rhodes she/her: in December, we're gonna follow up with you on a conversation you have tonight. Stephanie and Stacey and Chris Pesarelli and others have been working hard again to review the peak season at the Boulder reservoir, and they're going to be bringing their analysis and recommendations for the two thousand and twenty-three season in December they will report back on what the final operation plan is based upon your input tonight. Ali Rhodes she/her: Um other. If you look at these rose below, I don't know if you all can see my curse. So This is the section where we're trying to highlight some items that might be of interest to you, one to let you know that actually this Thursday Evening City Council is reading a declaration and honor of international persons with a Disabilities day, and in that declaration they're going to be honoring our own expand team and and um presenting that declaration to one of our participants, we're pretty excited because it's not often that a city program is recognized and highlighted.

[4:19] Ali Rhodes she/her: Um, also uh the shared micro mobility update that you all gave input to transportation on last month will be going to city Council in December. Ali Rhodes she/her: Uh, you can see here a summary of upcoming operational updates. I'll also let you know that this Saturday night is the lights of December parade in downtown boulder. So folks looking for a way to celebrate the holidays that is happening Saturday night, and then you can wander over into the civic area to participate in this. No much fun virtual augmented reality. Options Ali Rhodes she/her: uh looking into the New year. We're gonna start bringing you an overview of our action initiatives. We'll be bringing the two thousand and twenty-two summary, and some of these larger strategies related to the recreation centers. Uh how we plan to update our aging infrastructure. You're gonna hear a follow up the actual discussion on the Pleasant View access. Item that Doug is presenting tonight.

[5:10] Ali Rhodes she/her: Um, yeah. So I think those are the big highlights for the next quarter ahead. Question, Ally, and it might be silly. And is your with the lights that you were talking about? That's different than the one that was at the county courthouse the other night. Ali Rhodes she/her: That's a great comment. So uh last weekend on Sunday evening was the on switch on the holidays event downtown boulder in partnership with city parks and recreation. So that's when they actually turn on the holiday lights in on the on the courthouse lawn. That's the one thousand three hundred block on the Pearl Street, Mall and um in a civic area. And actually I see Brian Bury turned his video on, and he manages this area, and i'm gonna let him give a little more information on that. Bryan Beary (he/him/his): Sure, Thanks, Ali, and it's It's in the packet also. But in addition to the lights this year. We also have these augmented reality features that have been added. There are six features on the Mall, five in the civic area. You do need Instagram on your phone to access those. But once you pull that up you can interact, Take some photos with a couple of fun uh features that we have spread out across the area to. So that's a a highlight this year, in addition to the lights that are in the civic area, and along them all,

[6:18] Brian. I was there, and it was fantastic, and your Santa and Mrs. Claws were just so authentic. They were fantastic. But your new stars this year they they knew they look, they look so beautiful when you're driving you. Can they just change the whole um mall to in my perspective? I thought they were beautiful. Did I freeze? Bryan Beary (he/him/his): No, no, you're all good thanks. I'll pass on that feedback. Great, Thank you for that. I didn't realize it was different. So, Thanks, Ellie, Are you done? I'm sorry mine's going. It's going slow. Okay, great. We'll move on um to public participation. Rosa, Are you with us, or will uh Ally, help me with this.

[7:05] Chris Passarelli: I think we are still working on it. So, ally, if you might be able to read that off, that'd be great. Well, i'll read this part. So this portion of the meeting is for the members of to communicate ideas and concerns and or concern to the Board regarding parks for recreation issues for which a public hearing is not scheduled. Later in the meeting Tonight there are, and I believe we have about eight from from eight public speakers. Um and um. The public is encouraged to comment on the need for parts of recreation programs and facilities as they perceive them. All speakers are limited to three minutes. Depending on the nature of your matter. You may or may not receive a response from the Board after you deliver your comments. However, the Board is always listening to and appreciative of your community feedback. Um! So ally. Uh! Would you help me present the additional guidelines, and then call on our first speaker. I'd appreciate it. Ali Rhodes she/her: I can do that. So I am going to share these guidelines for public participation.

[8:01] Ali Rhodes she/her: And uh, the city is engaged with community members to co-create a vision for productive meaningful and inclusive civic conversations. This vision supports physical and emotional safety for community members, staff and council and board members as well as democracy. For people of all ages identities lived experiences and political expense Ali Rhodes she/her: perspectives For more information about this vision and the community. Engagement processes. Please visit Boulder, Colorado, Gov: Black Splash services, backsplash, productive hyphen atmospheres for tonight. And this meeting. Ali Rhodes she/her: That means, Ali Rhodes she/her: are you all see? On my screen? Ali Rhodes she/her: Yes, Okay, Ali Rhodes she/her: Um, There are rules of decorum spelled out in the boulder, Revised code and other guidelines that support this vision and these these these rules will be upheld during this meeting all remarks and testimony during public participation. She'll be limited to matters related to city business. No participant shall make threats or use any forms of intimidation against any person.

[9:00] Ali Rhodes she/her: Obscenity, racial epithets, and other speech and behavior that disrupts or otherwise impedes the ability to conduct the meeting are prohibited. Ali Rhodes she/her: Participants are required to sign up, to speak in advance and use the name. They are commonly known by individuals, must display their whole name before being allowed to speak online currently. Only automo audio testimony is permitted online. And so i'm multitasking here. I want to make sure everyone signed up for public participation. Please do click on the three bubbles in the upper right hand corner of your um. Ali Rhodes she/her: Actually sorry we are in the Webinar format, which means that we will be muting and unmute muting people as they are available for public participation. And so i'm going to go, Rosa, if you can give me a head, not the email you sent us with public sign up are those in the order that folks signed up? Should I go in that order? Thank you so much. So uh if you'll get prepared, Patrick Edwards will be first, then Michael and i'm sorry I am going to mispronounce this, and I hope you'll correct me. X. You, Michael. You mark Grassman admin noise. That's our first four. So i'm gonna

[10:00] Ali Rhodes she/her: start by unmuting Patrick Edwards, Ali Rhodes she/her: and you'll have three minutes. I am Ali Rhodes she/her: working fast on my uh feet. Here, i'm gonna pull up a timer, and i'm gonna show it in my video, and that will be your three minute uh Timer. Ali Rhodes she/her: So, Edwards, i'm going to unmute you now, Ali Rhodes she/her: and you're able to begin great. Thank you very much. My name is Pat Edwards. I'm. A member of the Boulder Tennis Association Board. We asked to have Pre up, hold a meeting in the very near future, seeking collaboration on the topic of the current and long term issues confronting racket sports participants. A summary of reasons warranting a dedicated meeting follow. We are aware of the competing pressures and budget budget issues for parks and rack and its staff. Our comments are not criticisms of the department staff or other racket sports players. We were stating the reality of the situation. Per Usa. Pickle Ball. Pickleball is the fastest growing sport in the Us. There's a forty percent in in players increase in players in just two thousand and twenty

[11:01] Boko Pickle Ball League leadership has done a great job in growing participation over three hundred members, with many, many more on affiliated players for the Tennis Industry association from two thousand to two thousand and nine, there was a forty-four percent increase in players from two thousand and nineteen to two thousand and twenty another forty-nine percent spike platform tennis is experience estimated thirty to forty percent increase in participation just since two thousand and twenty. How is the city responded. There hasn't been a new public tennis court, built in approximately twenty years. There are no dedicated pickle ball courts, no new platform tennis courts augmented the two loan unheeded courts at North Boulder Rec Center. Now line for pickle ball. The tennis community was not consulted about nine of twenty-eight public tennis courts line for pickle ball This effectively takes some out of use for League play under Colorado usta regulations. Unfortunately, it begs for confrontation between tennis and pickle ball players. Given the limited availability of viable courts, and it could lead to pickleball wars being experienced, no one desires, but is the case in many cities, and there are no public indoor chords. Bta Board members with hundreds of years of combined experience in tennis, used a usta

[12:19] court condition guide to assess all twenty-eight public courts of the thirteen at the Rec center. Nine are now dominated by pickleball players, for are regularly used by gotten so tennis for lessons most of the year. Gonzo does a great job, and demands vastly exceeds available courts. Six courts are spread around the city in small pockets. Eight of the courts, we assess, are in four to unplayable condition. Most notably Tom Watson's four Courts ruled unsafe for play by the Colorado usta. They leave Southern net. Viable chords next year This will be compounded by Rocky Mountain tennis clubs, fifteen tennis courts being closed, due to the development of a a public uh private housing for uh students.

[13:09] And this is gonna throw hundreds of players out into the public court situation that is deteriorating. So we're requesting collaboration with Brad. The other racket sports community help resolve these issues. Thank you very much. Ali Rhodes she/her: All right, and next up is Michael, and I hope you'll uh tell me how to say your name. Should we correspond in the future. Hello, Ali! Yup! Uh! Can you hear me? Yeah, My name is uh, Michael. The last name is uh, pronounced shoe. So uh, yeah, Ali Rhodes she/her: all right, you're ready to go. We'll start the timer when you start talking. And, Chris, Thank you much for the assist You're gonna uh win utility player of the day cool. Yeah. So my name is Michael Shu, and I've been working with Patrick as well uh working with the tennis community to raise awareness about the state of tennis facilities in boulder Uh. So one thing that we've done with at the Boulder Tennis Association is, we recently ran a survey about the state of tennis and boulder, and we had four hundred and twenty-two respondents for our survey

[14:17] uh t I want to share with you. You know, four of those responses, and you know there's hundreds of responses that are effectively, very, very similar. Uh, one person said, I play in boulder with long established tennis friends. The condition of the courts are so bad that they're often our trip hazards. I'd like to see Boulder make a commitment to improved court surfaces and better facilities, especially indoor for a tennis community, Another person said: When I play tennis it is almost embarrassing. When teams have to come to boulder and play in our courts. We always have courts with cracks in them, and weeds growing up for nets that are not well maintained. Uh, we usually have a ported party or nothing at all. I find myself booking courts and playing matches outside of the City of Boulder, because it's hard to deal with the logistics of pickle ball camps and the poorly maintained courts. If the surrounding counties have beautiful facilities like that one up in log months,

[15:08] another person said, Uh Boulder desperately, needs a public indoor tennis facility like our Fada created with Apex center. It's crazy that boulder people have to drive to East Longmont or Vada to play indoor tennis and another person said, Uh, I'm considering moving my family out of boulder due to the lack of tennis facilities. And so yeah, these these full respondents are just kind of like generally what you'd find in the responses they weren't like cherry picture, or anything like that. So it's just kind of an indicator. Um, we're just starting to go through the data. So we'll share more with you. Uh, as we finish our analysis. Um. But really, you know, part of it is that we were just I I We think that we just can't afford to wait a year for for parks and wreck to start any kind of a land assessment just given the pain that the tense community is currently feeling, and we've already spoken at Bta to uh our Vada Parker Grand Junction in Longmont and steamboat, and we've made connections with all of those successful tennis projects. And so we have a really good idea uh about how to move forward with this, and we actually want to help with raising public and private funding for any kind of a uh tennis facility going forward.

[16:12] And so uh, just like, Patrick said. We'd ask for a meeting with Prab to be scheduled sometime in the near future uh dedicated to addressing Boulder's racket sports with uh bta vocal pickleball and Boulder Paddle League. Thanks. Ali Rhodes she/her: And next up is Mark Grassman. Uh, thank you. Ah, Parks and Wreck Advisory Board for the opportunity to speak tonight. My name is Mark Grassman, and I love to play tennis. I'm. Also disabled. I am here to urge the Advisory Board to consider more public funding

[17:00] mit Ctl. And for tennis courts in the city. I've been a resident for over forty years, and have played on public courts regularly during that time, where our courts at the local recreation centers and public schools, but they offer, and not accessible to wheelchair tennis players. When I learned that rocking out and tennis center had a program for wheelchair tennis. It was a real gift. One hundred and ten I've been able to continue a sport that I love, and it has significantly improved my rehabilitation. As has already been mentioned. Tonight the tennis courts at the Rocky Mountain tennis center will be lost to the redevelopment in the next two years, and the tennis courts at Ceo South will be lost due to the University's plan development. The wheelchair tennis program at Rocky Mount Tennis Center is the only one in the state that features coaching, and sanction tournaments one hundred and fifty. Their courts are accessible, and they provide instruction and regular playing opportunities for wheelchair tennis. While they are a private tennis club, they encourage and accept non-member participation in their programs. Another one of their programs reaches out and promotes tennis and outreach programs to local schools for children that are disabled or less fortunate.

[18:04] Hopefully, the rocket on tennis center will be able to continue its programs that benefits so many people in the city and the University will be able to replace its tennis courts At See you South, the dozens of tennis courts associated with these entities will soon be gone. I encourage boulder parks and Wreck to schedule a public meeting, soon to discuss and recommend the possibility of more public support from the city. Other cities have done this, and have successful public-private partnerships. These have led to more tennis facilities for everyone as well as the disabled. An excellent example of this kind of project would be the apex tennis center in Rvada. They were able to scare public support, to build a facility that includes both indoor and outdoor courts with handicap access. Other examples have already been mentioned in Grand Junction and Sioux Falls. I know that the city has many needs, but surely improving tennis opportunities for the public and the disabled is among them.

[19:02] Thank you very much for your time, Ali Rhodes she/her: thank you. And next up is Ted noise, Ali, May I ask a quick question of Uh, Mr. Grassman? Yes, um! Can you tell me what? Uh, what are the modifications of the court that are needed for wheelchair tennis. What? What's different about those courts, Ali Rhodes she/her: Mr. Grassman? If you're still listening and able to answer that question, I I the chair is curious as am I? Um! What you find not accessible about some of the courts in Boulder the public courts, Ellie. I wonder if, when you unloaded me. You muted him. Ali Rhodes she/her: It It looks like he's still able to talk. How about this mark? We have your email. We'll follow up offline. If you are,

[20:03] Ali Rhodes she/her: he's still able to talk, and he's unmuted. Ali Rhodes she/her: So we'll follow up on that um folks. If someone could. My email is Rhodes R. H. O. D. E. S. My first initial is A. So it's Roads A. At Boulder, Colorado, Gov. And i'm alli rhodes. I'm. The director of Parks and Recreation. I I share Chuck's question. Ali Rhodes she/her: So with that Ted noise you are the next speaker up. Welcome to um the board and staff, and I appreciate the Ted noise. The full name is Edmund Noise. I'm. A seventy-seven year old, retired Arizona Trial lawyer and judge I moved to Boulder in two thousand and ten I'm. A past president and current member of Bcr. And I have an ownership interest in two boats and one Llc. That owns a trailer. My one request tonight

[21:02] is that the board gives staff the direction, advice, and consent to return the reservoir to the former opening hours of five am or six am. In two thousand and twenty-two. The reservoir opened at nine Am. In the spring and fall, and six am. In the summer. Staff proposes those same reduced hours for two thousand and twenty-three last I heard the additional fees from opening at five or six Am. In this athletic community, and warming climate would probably cover reasonable staff costs restoring the early hours would also be a big step towards repairing the staff user relationships that have soured in recent years with staffs frequently harsh, unilateral edicts regarding higher fees, and fewer services. Staff has announced the two thousand and twenty-two reservoir profit of a hundred thousand dollars, which comes in part from increased fees, and reduced services. You all know that this strategy, if carried on too long,

[22:06] generates more collateral damage, that increased revenue, for example, in two thousand and nineteen staff summarily banned rollers from using a boat rack on which I and many others had spent hundreds of dollars and hours over the years to build and maintain the in two thousand and twenty-one staff revoked previous consent, and summarily banned Llc. Members from storing even one boat on our own boat rack. This move would uh have generated an increase in our storage fees of two hundred and seventeen percent, the latter at profit-making and effort actually reduced revenue when we moved the trailer off site, and took three boats to Union Union Reservoir, by the way, opens at six A. M. From March, one to October, the thirty one every year, and the uh

[23:01] it's no wake all the time, and the storage fees out. There are less I pay as a non-resident than what I pay in boulder as a resident. We prefer to row in boulder, though where Bcr and many friends grow. In conclusion, Staff is advised the board that it proposes to extend flank season to April, one and October one thirty one. That's a good small step. I request seriously. I I seriously request the Board to give staff the support and direction they need to restore those early hours, and I am over and out unless there's questions. Thank you. Ali Rhodes she/her: Next up is Susan Adams. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yes, okay. I'm speaking tonight to ask you for your advocacy for the rowing community known as Cjc. The Colorado Junior crew and Vcr. Which is boulder community rowing.

[24:04] I'm. Asking you to support your reservoir staff to invite us to be reservoir partners, which will increase your revenue by offering Boulder County citizens a strong fitness community for your youth, adults, and silver sneaker patrons. This will stop us from being treated as a user group which, according to your staff, requires you to charge us a progressive increase in early access fees. Let me explain. Our early access fee has risen from thirty dollars an hour in two thousand and nineteen to one hundred an hour in two thousand and twenty-two, with the declaration that it will incrementally increase to a total of two hundred and forty dollars an hour over the next two years. This fee is the same fee charge, whether there are thirty-five rowers at the reservoir or two hundred general patrons, and this rate gives us no access to your building or bathrooms. Ally Rose has said: This fee has arrived at by determining average hourly cost to operate the reservoir throughout the year. This average has no relationship to the actual cost of opening the res early. We also noticed that your staff charge triathlete groups such as Iron Man. This fee, with the difference being that they have to close the reservoirs to public losing day, use revenue, whereas we pay the same fee without requiring closure, which gives you a profit opportunity, especially when marketed well to the general public.

[25:16] With this increase in out of hours. Access. Our membership now pays three hundred and ten a month to row in our programs when it used to be one hundred and ninety-five, and this does not include individual facility, fee, or storage fees for private boats, which brings the monthly payment to three hundred and seventy-two per hour. This has decreased our membership numbers from over eighty-seven, and two thousand and eighteen to thirty-seven this year, in addition to this increase in the hourly charge. Your staff have reduced the reservoir open hours, and it's wakeless hours which are critically needed for our programs to access flat water. It is increasingly becoming inhospitable to store boats at the reservoir, because we simply cannot have regular access to our own equipment. Furthermore, University of Colorado move their practice to the afternoon, which means the burden of paying the early access comes entirely on Vcr's shoulders. No more cost share. We also learned that a decision was made to give the University of Colorado a sixty dollars an hour fee, giving me great pause As to this being an equitable decision

[26:13] in the past, a key card has been given to our paid coaches to open the gate, giving you a huge cost share. And we're leaving management issues for Stacey Cole, especially our coaches, are all us uh rowing, certified, which means they know how to respond to a rowing emergency on the water. We've tried to negotiate with your staff to provide our own safety support again saving us costs, but are told no consistently. So i'm here to say to you, the Advisory Board, the Ally Road, Stephanie Monroe and Stacey Cole need to hear from you, to increase the reservoir open hours, wakeless hours, and to do what you can to encourage them, to treat us as partners, not adversaries. Thank you. Ali Rhodes she/her: Next up, and my participant list just went away. Give me two seconds, is Roman.

[27:05] Ali Rhodes she/her: I'll be right there with that Ali Rhodes she/her: All right, Roman. You should be able to speak now. All right. Can you hear me? Okay, All right. Good stuff. Um, hello! My name is Roman Sam Martino. I use he and pronouns. Uh, thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I've been using the reservoir for over ten years, first as a row with you, and now as a rower with Pcr. I mean. I've come today just to highlight a couple of adjustments to the reservoir that I think would be really beneficial for our community in Boulder Um. Returning to the Pre. Covid opening time of five A. M. For the high season uh the initial change made a lot of sense just given the uh environment of how things were uh three years ago. But I think it's about time to return to how things were before then, at least. When it comes to these hours. It really gives the everyday people in the boulder community, such as myself, maximum use of the reservoir while being able to work nine to five job.

[28:01] Um! I did notice that the shoulder season uh is going to extend April first to October. Thirty first Um! That's going to be an awesome change, and i'm really excited to see that uh proposal being uh brought forth, and the last thing I wanted to bring up is that. I think there's a real real opportunity to uh have more collaboration with impacted groups when it comes to operational changes at the reservoir, and I just want to highlight one specific example here to to show what I mean. Um. In April of last last Sorry this year, throwing programs were given less than a week's notice of a usage restriction determined by the combined air and water temperature. Um! And it was really really impactful to uh to the operation of the programs, and it wasn't really clear as to why this change was needed, or the problem that was trying to solve um top down. Solutions like this can result in significant impacts to the everyday. User and I really think that having a more collaborative approach would bring a lot of buy in to uh solving some of these challenges that that do come up. Um, you know, I think talking to folks is really beneficial.

[29:12] Uh, so at the end of the day. I know this city has many simultaneous needs, but there is a huge opportunity here to achieve some great community benefit, and uh, get more use of that out of the reservoir. Thank you so much. Ali Rhodes she/her: All right. Next up is Mark Eller. You should be able to speak in just one second. Ali Rhodes she/her: There you go, Mark, you should be able to unmute yourself and begin speaking. Great. Thank you. Uh. So my name is Mark Eller, and I have lived and work in boulder for a little more than two, which is fine. I think, Norman, you're still on the mic. I got it. Go ahead. Thank you so much. Mark

[30:09] back up just a little bit from where we've been focusing on and just talk a little bit about the position of our nonprofit club in the community. Um! So you know, I don't know if any of you have read the boys in the boat, but I would say that our club is sort of like the boys, the girls, the families, the students, the teachers, professionals, and retirees in the boats in the boulder community. Um! And we have a decades long tradition of working with the city to provide nonprofit programming that hundreds of boulder citizens have participated in out of the reservoir benefiting from quiet human powered recreation and in a natural setting, and we recognize that it's not easy for Reservoir Staff to manage the shared resource of the reservoir in a way that everyone agrees is equitable. But I will tell you right now that our board and our members, you know, like we have our backs against the wall,

[31:03] and we are not going to survive with the increase. These uh sharp increases in fees that we're faced with. Susan talked a little bit, and i'll repeat um thirty dollars an hour just a few years ago is what we were paying for early access, and the talk now is uh to go a hundred and even two hundred dollars per hour to have that early access that we depend on for quiet water in the morning. So the main thing I just want to emphasize. For for this P. Rap group is that we are a nonprofit community. Focus club that offers services to a broad cross section of border residents. We welcome anyone and everyone who wants to row, and we provide them with equipment, coaching, and support, and we give them the most affordable rates that we can provide. Given our situation, however, and Susan also touched on this. We are treated. We feel, and we've been told in similar fashion to the for profit groups the contract with the reservoir, and I think that's a fundamentally flawed approach. Um without substantial changes. Our nonprofit group will not survive. So we really sincerely hope that we can work more productively with staff this year to find mutually beneficial arrangements.

[32:19] Rowers are known for their dedication and tenacity. We want to see this through, and I want to thank P. Rap for allowing us to speak tonight. Ali Rhodes she/her: Members of the Board. There is one more person who signed up following the protocol that has folks submit their request by four thirty, and that is Larry Mckel, and I am unmuting you Now, Larry. Okay, can we? Chris Passarelli: Yes, All right. Thank you. My name is Liar Mckel. I've been a board resident for thirty three years. My comments for the public participation Portion of this evening's meeting are to speak about over management and underutilization of the city facilities. You'll hear from staff about the reservoir operation.

[33:11] In general it is positive and very encouraging as an open water swim, organizer and paddle border. I have certainly gotten my usage out of the reservoir. I also support the positive trajectory, as we all try to recover from the pandemic. That's it. I'm always looking for a room for improvement, and I think there is some of that room. This is stated with the best of intentions, because, as a frequent reservoir, user I feel both the pains as well as the joys, of visiting the reservoir. I would encourage Brad to delve deeper into the data contained in the attachment. As there's some interesting numbers, the small sampling of respondents that did not visit the reservoir satiates. My confirmation bias in terms of costs and and rules and regulations being too big contributors along with the hours of operation also being included as a reason for non-visitation.

[34:05] I see this is early morning signs The reservoir. Only past proposal is an interesting proposal and will certainly cause me to reevaluate my own personal two thousand and twenty-three activity budget. I look forward to promoting it with the open water. Swim community and the paddle, board, as I know. Should it be approved heading into two thousand and twenty-three. How can we start to restore some of our pre-pandemic levels of operation not only at the reservoir, but throughout the parks and rec system. This is rhetorical question at the moment, and it's asked, having experienced the staff shortages that cause spruce pool to never open this past summer East Border Rec Center, opening at six Am. Versus the previous five, thirty Am. And the reservoir hours of admission to be shortened, as we just heard from many of the boulder community rowers as a member of the boulder community myself. The prices for the services are going up, while the operations are curtailed either through regulations or our reductions. The Macro economic wins that are coming.

[35:11] Hint at recessionary pressures. Couple of this with another viral outbreak, and it could be worse version of two thousand and twenty personally. Oh, none of that comes to pass pre-pandemic Master Plan, as a guide to the future borders recreation Amenities, it'd be great, for, proud to encourage more creativity with pricing, timing, and exercising of our user groups, pick up some of the slack and the offerings to offset the unique challenges that weren't envisioned with the earlier plan. Reservoir pass Option is a fresh approach to raising visitation rates, and consequently revenue. Look forward to continuing to explore creative ways, provide additional services with city staff into two thousand and twenty-three and beyond. Thank you, thank you, Larry. I think that. Was it for public comments That correct, Ali,

[36:04] Ali Rhodes she/her: that that is the sign up that we received by four, thirty Pm. Today, and following the process posted online, great, And for those of you who logged on and may not know the process. We There is a process. There is a link on the on the website, and we're sorry we didn't get to hear from you today, but if there's anything that is um really um critical for you, if you could just please email Allie rose or director and um connect with her, or you could always email one of the board members and um we'll get back to you. Um, but we most likely we'll. We'll be working with our director, Alli Rhodes. I'm. Sorry. No one. Okay. Um, Now we'll move on to the consent agenda. Great. No, I I. I had a question for you actually for Rosa. So do we. We typically do two motions. This has it all in one. So can we? Um do I do one motion for the two minutes, or at there it's It's separate, because I've all i'm used to doing. It's separate for each for each meeting.

[37:11] Item A is the minutes. So item a of your consent agenda's approval of the minutes from October and November. Those don't require a roll call. Vote. So you typically just do a hands up. Vote if you approve those minutes, and then you move on to the next items, right right. But I was asking if they were separate. But we can do them together. Ali Rhodes she/her: Great! Can you mean the minutes correct it? It? It It depends on if the board agrees with them all, and supports them as a package then great. But if for some reason we need to separate them out, then we can. Okay, perfect for that, Pam. I wasn't following your question. No problem. I probably wasn't clear um. Could I get a motion to it for approval of the minutes from October twenty, fourth and November seventh. Can I um make one comment about the November seventh being notes? Um. My name is Misspell. Um. It's i'm pretty sure we're all familiar with who the Eliot hood is on the prab. But um, I have two t's in my name, and that often gets misspelled. So, just for the record wanted to. You know that correction. Otherwise I have no issue with the minutes.

[38:17] If you want to hear me, i'll go ahead and correct that. Yeah, you bet. All right, Rosa. Ali Rhodes she/her: She was testing me. I can all I do. Public comment, wait to say, Call everybody. Thank you so much, Chris and Tim behind the scenes for getting the timer and making that happen. This is why our team is incredible. Keep calm and move out. Or what is it? Something like that. Thank you, Chuck. Can I get a second second Elliot that you? I was writing Chuck. Okay, perfect, great. Now we'll move on to updates from the Director of Parks Regression Alley.

[39:00] Ali Rhodes she/her: Thank you for that, Madam Chair, and for the benefit of our new teammates, and because we have um some community members listening in this portion of the agenda is where our department shares informational updates for the Advisory Board. There's a lot that happens in our department every single month. It's not all documented here, but there are some highlights things that we think the Board would appreciate being aware of um updates new programs. There's some great news about funding in here, and so we share these as informational items. And if the Board member has any questions, I have an incredible team here that can any questions, Chuck? Go ahead. So uh a quick question about the Halloween drive and movie at the reservoir. Um In the past we've had driving movies at other locations. I think the golf course was the most recent Um! What was the rationale for hosting it at the Reservoir, which is a little further out of town, and maybe a little less convenient to reach as opposed to doing it again at the golf course.

[40:03] Ali Rhodes she/her: I believe Brian theory is available, and he has oversight for our community uh events and activations. I'll let him take that. Bryan Beary (he/him/his): Thanks, Ali. Hi check um The Bryan Beary (he/him/his): The The simple answer is that we uh did had some some uncertainty with construction project out at the golf course this past year, and so with it. How far in advance we need to plan the event, and uh, do all the special event permitting. We chose the reservoir for the site based on some other feedback of driving movies that uh have taken place out there uh last year. Uh! And again it was successful. I think it does have some advantages over uh the golf course in terms of It's it's traffic flow. But you're absolutely right. It is further out of town. Bryan Beary (he/him/his): So there's a balance there. So uh, once we get on the other side of the golf course Construction project. We'll take another close look at that. Um, but they do accommodate about the same amount of people. So uh we really could go either way there. Bryan Beary (he/him/his): Okay, Thank you.

[41:01] Any other questions for Ali Bring to the team. Great good job, Ellie and your team um. Do you want to move on to see project updates? Ali Rhodes she/her: Yeah. So items B and C. And I believe D are all operational updates that we just have organized under uh items that are updates from my office. They are planning and project updates, and then the operations update. Okay, fantastic since. And does anybody have any questions. I just i'm assuming that we'll move on, since it's all bundled great, and there's no action items tonight. But so um pass back over to ally road to um pass it over to whoever is going to be discussing the two thousand and twenty-two boulder reservoir operation Plan Review not um. Ali Rhodes she/her: I wonder if just real quick, and I I you know it's not often. We have a lot of folks listening in at prab meetings. I wonder if if Madam chair, and even members of the Board will be talking. You heard public comment about reservoir operations, and there will be opportunity for discussion about that. But I wonder if you want a sixty second update on the state of courts, and our plan to address the demand for tennis and pick up, or do you all feel like you're in the loop on that.

[42:15] Ali Rhodes she/her: Oh, I think it will update would be fantastic. Okay, Um. Some of the folks listening in heard this. They were at our City council meeting a a a week and a half ago, and I shared very similar comments. And so, folks, I Ali Rhodes she/her: I hope you'll know that these words continue to be true, and for members of the Board, if you have questions, please please let me know. So, as you heard, you know from some of these tennis folks, and as we discussed during our master planning process, both tennis and pickle ball are growing sports. Um! While most of the community from the statistically valid survey that we conducted in the master plan. Think we have the right amount of courts again, as you, as you heard from some of the the tennis there is. Ali Rhodes she/her: There's a concern about both the quality and the quantity of courts in boulder, and I think that there's a There's a real sense of urgency given the impending development at the Millennium pro property in the Um. Where the Rocky Mountain Tennis Center is, which is a private club with both indoor and outdoor courts. So uh, we are paying attention, we are aware, and we are taking action on this and all of it's directed by the policy that was recently outlined in the unanimously approved two thousand and twenty-two parked and recreation Master Plan, so first,

[43:19] Ali Rhodes she/her: as it relates to the condition of current courts. They're right. We're behind on maintenance, starting in two thousand and twenty-three we're spending two hundred thousand dollars a year on maintenance that triples what we've been spending on tennis court to better take care of the courts that we have tennis. Um. Tom Watson is on that list. We know that it that it's way behind. Those courts are lit, Ali Rhodes she/her: and I want to note that also. I heard a comment that said, We don't have any um. We we do have indoor pickleball courts. We do not have indoor public tennis courts. Ali Rhodes she/her: Uh, we also are working to maximize benefit to our joy. Use agreement with the Boulder Valley school district. So while tennis players prefer not to have pickle ball lines on their courts, um we do promote multi-use facilities, we're aware that the Colorado Tennis Association does allow lead play on courts with pickleball lines if both teams agree. Um, but it does take that agreement. So Um Bdsd: because the courts that they have are dedicated for high school level of our city play. They will not be painting, pickle all lines on their courts, and so That's one way we're trying to use uh

[44:17] Ali Rhodes she/her: many community amendments to meet the demand. Uh, we're also working to determine if and how we would partner on a racket facility in Boulder. We know folks are really interested in a public facility. As you heard. There are public facilities in utter community. The most frequently cited ones right now are in Ourvada, just just south of us, and then in steamboat. Ali Rhodes she/her: Um. We're interested in that conversation. We have told both the Boulder Tennis Association, the Rocky Mountain Tennis um Club, and the the newly formed Boco Pickleball Club that we're interested in that conversation, and that we um Ali Rhodes she/her: in two thousand and twenty-three have added to our work Plan to look at a level of service. Analysis of the courts to determine uh if city land should be used for such a facility that should be informed by demand. Um! And really we, you know what we're trying to make

[45:04] Ali Rhodes she/her: folks understand is that we have a responsibility to make sure that land and resources are very thoughtfully used. And so we understand we're not working at a pace that that is meeting the sense of urgency and concern that these folks feel. But it is on our work plan. Um! I believe that one of our next steps Mark Davison is our planning senior manager, as you're aware, he's uh out of the office on vacation. But we had talked about reaching out to the group to even if we, if it would help folks feel better that we're authentically listening, engaged. Perhaps we should explore a letter of intent Ali Rhodes she/her: just to explore, to identify that we do intend to carefully, thoughtfully explore a public private partnership for a racket facility in Boulder, and so I guess I just. I wanted to make sure we had space for you all to hear that that that it's on our work plan in two thousand and twenty-three we're making space for this conversation, both the use of land and a potential partnership. Ali Rhodes she/her: So with that, maybe i'll pause. If there's questions, and then we can go into introducing the next item.

[46:05] Ali Rhodes she/her: I did the ten second virtual virtual pause. No, I was doing a thumbs up. I enjoyed the update. Thank you. Ali Rhodes she/her: Yep. And so then folks who join for public comment tonight with tennis, if somehow our our messages aren't getting through, or I mean, if it's just the pace, I understand that our timelines may not be aligned, but feel free to to reach out and let me know how we can connect to make sure. You understand that we're listening, and we're here and uh, and we're we're on it. Ali Rhodes she/her: So with that i'm gonna shift gears to the Boulder Reservoir. So um we have here tonight. Stephanie Monroe is our regional facilities. Manager Stacey Cole is the Boulder reservoir manager, and Chris Passelli is in our business services team. We're so lucky to have talented folks across the Department to help with data analysis, with decision making. And so this is, I think, the fourth year that we've brought you in the fall and after action review of our peak season,

[47:03] Ali Rhodes she/her: and as you heard from some of the rowing friends, there's a lot of folks who use the reservoir in different ways. And so For years we've worked to make sure that the way the reservoir is used is balancing many different competing interests that it's thoughtful about the resources that we use. And so once again they're coming to you with their analysis of our two thousand and twenty-two season on several different key areas. They're going to share with you the feedback we get the their analysis and our recommended action. And what we want from you tonight Ali Rhodes she/her: is your input on those, because we'll consider that as we finalize the two thousand and twenty-three operations, That's what we'll bring back to you in december. So with that I will hand it to the team to share with you their great work. Stephanie Munro: Thank you, Ellie, for that great introduction. Um and yes, good evening, Members of the Crab. Thank you for listening and having us tonight as your guests. Um, I am Stephanie Monroe, regional facility manager,

[48:03] Stephanie Munro: and as Ali uh indicated, i'm joined with my two subject matter experts who I could not do without uh getting through tonight's presentation. Stacy, Cole, Reservoir Facility Supervisor and Chris pass Raleigh. Our business service analysts um. The two of them will help me with Stephanie Munro: this presentation, and uh as well as uh uh tremendous helpers with the coordination and um analysis of Science Project Stephanie Munro: Chris next slide Stephanie Munro: um Stephanie Munro: it. Stephanie Munro: Oh, sorry, Stephanie Munro: um! In the following slides, as Alli had uh indicated, that we will be sharing our initial performance data for the two thousand and twenty-two season. Um, then provide an assessment of our adjustments made for two thousand and twenty-two followed by the review of the proposed updates for our two thousand and twenty-three operations plan Stephanie Munro: Next slide

[49:00] Stephanie Munro: um boulder parks and recreation uh continues to align business practices with the guidance outlined in the new adopted two thousand and twenty-two boulder parks and recreation plan, as well as the Boulder reservoir master plan Stephanie Munro: this part of the adaptive management. Um, we have completed steps four of five after analyzing the two thousand and twenty-two operations and getting information through the data points and the community questionnaire Stephanie Munro: um we are here today to present our recommendations and current intent for next year. We have five areas where we will like to have your input as we continue to work to improve them and share additional feedback and themes that we saw from our community members. Stephanie Munro: Um, Those five goals that we will be continuing uh through two thousand and twenty-three are reduction of a ands Stephanie Munro: bring storage fees closer to the market rate, incentivize sustainability, Stephanie Munro: offer flexible continuous access options, and enhance access and cost recovery for watercraft permits.

[50:04] Stephanie Munro: Now How do we get come up with these recommendations? Um, you've heard this a lot from Regina just like our master planning process. We get Input from the community. Everything in the master plan is frame by the city, sustainability, um, city sustainability, equity, and really resilience commitments, Stephanie Munro: and the recommendations are synthesized from the community engagement research, leading practices, our staff input and then policy. Um, We apply the research we receive, input and we then review policy and develop those solutions. Um: we did post the annual questionnaire to the reservoir email list Stephanie Munro: and did, and we received five hundred and fifty valid responses. And I do have to report out that we had to disregard seven hundred, a hundred and seventy sorry responses were removed, based on repeated submissions similar to what we shared last year. Stephanie Munro: Um! So with that i'm gonna send it to Stacey so she can talk about the reservoir operations.

[51:04] Can I ask a quick question doing some therapy on my foot here. Sorry about that. But um, when you say one hundred and seven, does that mean um same person, multiple times or same same email, What does that mean, Chris Passarelli: Yeah, i'm happy to speak to this one. Um: Chris Passarelli: Basically, several factors together indicated that one person was responsible for pretty much all these between Ip address twice Os Chris Passarelli: and uh sequential timing. So one being finished, and then the next one starting a moment later. Chris Passarelli: Yeah, it seems like we, it's pretty much one actor, everybody largely engaged in very good faith. Stephanie Munro: Thank you, Stacey. Stacy Cole: Okay, Um. Stacy Cole: I am going to talk about the reservoir operating season. The reservoir is a highly seasonal facility, with the height of recreation. Use occurring from Memorial Day to Labor Day, when the reservoir is fully staffed, and we're delivering, delivering all of our services, including um our Ans services, our water safety services for boaters, our lifeguards for swimmers at the Swim beach.

[52:17] Stacy Cole: Um! On either side of the high season. We have what we call our flake seasons, which are the spring. In the fall months they see reduced staffing um, and not as many services as We don't have our swim beach open at that time, but all of our other um Stacy Cole: services are still available in those flank seasons. Stacy Cole: Next slide Stacy Cole: um the South shore is visited by approximately three hundred thousand visitors in a typical year. The majority of these visitations happen. Um, in that high season. Timeframe from Memorial day to Labor Day, when the reservoir is charging its full access fees

[53:04] Stacy Cole: in the flank seasons users pay the reduced access fee, and outside of those flank seasons visitors can use the South Shore area without paying any access fee. Stacy Cole: Um! We will be going through a number of slides after this one and um i'm going to go through this one real quick, and then i'll i'll wrap up with with how we're going to move forward um! So in the twenty twenty-two operations. Um, we expended about one point two million versus one point zero eight million last year um and we saw a significant increase in our fueling costs and our staffing costs. Stacy Cole: Um! Our revenue was slightly up at one point. Two eight million collected. Um. But moving forward, we'll need to prepare to be have sustainable operations in two thousand and twenty-three, As our expenses continue to rise.

[54:04] Stacy Cole: Um! We did see a return um to our larger medium and large special events as well as our picnics to pre pandemic levels. Um! Our events are still kind of in that recovery stage, and we're continuing to um get more of those events back over the years. Stacy Cole: So moving forward. Um! The next few slides are very intertwined, and we want to make sure that we can give you the full picture of what we're thinking as we move forward. So we'll proceed through the next few slides, and ask that you please. Keep your questions till the end of that part of the presentation. Stacy Cole: Stephanie, you're up Stephanie Munro: all right. Thanks, Stacey. All right. The first operational outcome to review is the Ans program aquatics nuisance uh species program. Boulder Reservoir Institute. Some of the strictest policy procedures and policies will be on the standards that is decay dictated by the colorado parks and well of Cpw.

[55:06] Stephanie Munro: Given the continued rising a ands risk, we intend to continue the moratorium of not issuing any new class. Five permits, and no new class, five watercraft, Stephanie Munro: and we do not plan to loosen those restrictions on visiting other bodies of water at this time. Um. This would include any new class five permits for new voters, or for current voters to replace their current class by watercraft, and then, in addition, restrictions on visiting other bodies of water would remain the same. Stephanie Munro: Um! Some highlights Here there were seventy four class five total bulk permits issued in two thousand and twenty-two. This is down from eighty-four and twenty-one. Um. We did find that some class five boats uh voters decided not to renew their permits at all Stephanie Munro: um and then something to note here in two thousand and nineteen. We issued one hundred and forty-four, which is twice the amount of what we have issued in this this last current. Season.

[56:06] Stephanie Munro: Um! Next slide, Please Thank you. Um. Our second operational adjustment to review is this: are the storage fees um in two thousand and twenty-one staff presented to the crab concerns on how far below market rate, Bpr's reservoir storage, pricing was Stephanie Munro: vpr charges, uh five hundred and twenty-three dollars uh per year for gravel storage, space Stephanie Munro: while the average in the area is um close to seventeen, over one thousand seven hundred annually. And again last year we um vpr increase fees by ten percent in two thousand and twenty-two Stephanie Munro: staff propose a continuation of the prop endorse uh policy of subtly increasing storage pricing by ten percent annually Stephanie Munro: until bpr pricing is caught up to two-thirds of the average um in the area, and in two thousand and twenty-three. The benchmark gravel space would cost six hundred and thirty-two dollars and fifty cents, which is approximately thirty, six percent of the two thousand and twenty-one market average,

[57:08] Stephanie Munro: and then we plan to um complete a new market survey along with the Aar press process in two thousand and twenty-three Stephanie Munro: next slide. Stephanie Munro: Okay, uh incentivize sustainability is the next item to review um in two thousand and twenty-two through the aar process we instituted a twenty-five percent entry discount on visits that are via carpool uh foot bike, et cetera. Stephanie Munro: This discount would only apply to those paying gate fees during that high season, and does not include anyone that that entered during the flank season. Twilight hours, or with an unlimited pass access. Pass Stephanie Munro: um! There was a total of over twenty one thousand discount entries, including adult youth and senior household. This amounted to almost half of the of the over forty-five thousand high season daily visits again excludes that link season twilight, and pass

[58:08] Stephanie Munro: for contacts those forty-five thousand daily entrance feet uh payers make up about one-third of the total people that visited in the high season, the remainder would have been user groups and passholders Stephanie Munro: so to um. Total facility. Access revenue is down by about sixty-six thousand, from two thousand and twenty-one, as discussed in our operational summary Stephanie Munro: so with that one hundred and thirty-eight thousand of total gate revenue coming in for modal multimodal visits. The net impact of sustainability and of that twenty-five percent discount was about forty-six thousand um according to two thirds of the gate. I'm sorry accounting for that. Two thirds of the gate revenue decline Stephanie Munro: um Some interesting facts here we found question or respondents of over two-thirds of whom purchased a boat permit, did say that incentive. Um uh! Did not say that instead of had a significant impact on their behavior.

[59:05] Stephanie Munro: But we know that this questionnaire is most captured input by our regular visitors. However, qualitative data from our gate cashier staff members indicate that this is making a difference where it matters. Most They reported multiple families coming in particular during peak times on July Fourth weekend patrons commented Stephanie Munro: that they didn't usually come to the reservoir, but the twenty-five for the in, for everyone in the car meant they could come out and spend the day the whole day at the facility. Stephanie Munro: So if this incentive is bringing new customers in and lowering barriers to cost conscious visitors while encouraging carpool and sustain sustainable transport. The program is achieving those city goals Stephanie Munro: um and since revenue impact is reasonable and directly supports the climate goals. B. Pr. Recommends continuing offering this discount for gate payers in two thousand and twenty-three. Stephanie Munro: Okay, i'm going to pass it back to Chris. He has a number of slides here again that they

[60:01] Stephanie Munro: they roll together. So be patient. We're We're getting close Chris Passarelli: definitely. It's a good marathon. Thank you. Step, of course. Okay. So these are the last two topics. Um, we've heard in public comments I mentioned of a reservoir access pass, and then we're also going to talk about uh those boat permits. Chris Passarelli: So um reservoir access, as we know, is a hot topic. Um, we've this kind of the story begins a bit back in two thousand and nineteen and two thousand and twenty, Chris Passarelli: when entrance fees across the system were all synchronized, Chris Passarelli: so an entrance at, say, the north boulder rec center cost the same as one to the Scott Carpenter pool uh, or the reservoir in the high season, Chris Passarelli: and so the goal is to keep entrances consistent Chris Passarelli: and aligned with cost. Recovery as those baseline expenses of staffing utilities. And overhead Uh existed across the system regardless of which facility someone was visiting. Chris Passarelli: Um, We finally competed, completed this process of making our entrances consistent this year by separating the boat permits Um, particularly the large graph permits from the bundled access passes that used to be part of the parcel there, so that they could purchase the entrance pass, or daily access that works best for them.

[61:14] Chris Passarelli: Uh, for instance, voters that way, we're not paying for an access pass that could be redundant if they were a financial aid recipient or a silver speakers member. Chris Passarelli: So Chris Passarelli: in the last couple of years we added a six month pass and a summer fun pass which were unlimited. System wide passes to try to match the seasonal nature of our outdoor pools and the reservoir. Chris Passarelli: But we've heard you loud and clear. Feedback has been consistent that many users really want a reservoir. Only pass Chris Passarelli: um. Chris Passarelli: So we put our heads together to figure out how we can do that. While still balancing the consistency and proud guidance that we've received. Chris Passarelli: Um. So as we see here the pink slice on this beautiful pie forty-six of questionnaire respondents uh stated a preference to access the P. The site, using a reservoir only pass or punches

[62:04] Chris Passarelli: uh while twenty-nine, the light blue over there still enjoy using a system might pass. So we like these options, but there's clearly some support there for a dedicated pass. Chris Passarelli: Um! Chris Passarelli: So we do think that this year, bearing in mind the guidance to keep pricing tied to cost recovery and developing the price structure through a consistent methodology. Uh, we do think we can introduce a pass in two thousand and twenty-three to cover the full seven month fe season at the reservoir, so that would include the flanks as well as the peak Chris Passarelli: um, Chris Passarelli: and the real reason for this is the seasonal variability in the hours Chris Passarelli: and pricing. So the fact that the services and hours are lower in the flank times, and we only charge five dollars per person or ten dollars for a car load. It means that when we put that through the process that we use to calculate our system wide passes. Chris Passarelli: We do you think we can offer this? And you can see the pricing table at right? Chris Passarelli: So Chris Passarelli: um, yeah, essentially in exchange for not having a swim beach running that whole time, we could get people in the door,

[63:05] Chris Passarelli: so the proposed pricing there is approximately three hundred and fifty or three hundred and forty five dollars for a resident worker. Adult Chris Passarelli: um for comparison. If you were to buy seven, one month passes uh system wide, it would be just under five hundred dollars at four hundred and eighty-three. Chris Passarelli: But this methodology is still based on the cost that we are incurring at the reservoir. Chris Passarelli: So that is the reservoir access issue. Chris Passarelli: And now permit access. This is Chris Passarelli: a big one. Everyone wants to get out on the water. The uh. So the previous section focused on access to the whole facility by all the users. But here we're going to zoom in on boat. Permit pricing Chris Passarelli: um in quantities. Chris Passarelli: So the demand is still very high for the all season long. Small craft permits they sold out uh for the first time ever, in the first twenty-four hours there was a record interest. Chris Passarelli: Um. Chris Passarelli: Meanwhile, though, in the past we've seen about twenty or thirty of these permits not ever being picked up, so someone buys them, and they don't take them home and go boating with them.

[64:06] Chris Passarelli: Um. So we tried to resell permits that weren't picked up through the the peak in July Chris Passarelli: um, and then resell them to folks that might want to boat in the fall. But this took an enormous amount of staff time. Um! The impact was pretty limited as far as how many people new people got to go boating Chris Passarelli: um and cost confusion for uh, staff and customers alike. Chris Passarelli: And in the meantime we did continue to offer the weekday passes, Chris Passarelli: which uh would only work for Monday through Friday except for holidays. Chris Passarelli: This would help fill in the gaps of the off peak time, as opposed to say Fourth of July and the weekends. Chris Passarelli: And so this year I should say we we did a massive increase. We added five hundred permits for week taper uh visitors, small craft voters, as well as five hundred season wide uh permits.

[65:03] Chris Passarelli: And so in the questionnaire we heard people want more permits um understandable. We saw the interest Chris Passarelli: um Chris Passarelli: so while many requested daily or non-annual access for small craft that's not a regime that we can implement while still meeting our A Ands requirements. Chris Passarelli: Our users and our permit holders need to commit to storage inspection and use procedures, since we depend on the knowledge of them to be experts to help keep our water clean. Uh and so through Rocky Mountain paddle board our onsite partner. We do offer rentals for people that want to vote on a shorter term there without an annual commitment. Chris Passarelli: Um. Chris Passarelli: So while we would love to add more in the peak season, you'll see on the slide here. Bullet number two. Uh. We did observe a essentially doubling in uh Lake Patrol rescues with the small craft. Chris Passarelli: Um, I should say contacts. But there were situations that were of questionable safety, Chris Passarelli: and so that was with five hundred new um

[66:03] Chris Passarelli: season permits. Chris Passarelli: And so between the A. Ands risks, and these safety events, which occurred invariably on the weekends and holidays. When Chris Passarelli: resources are the lowest and interest is the highest, Chris Passarelli: we are not able to add additional season. Long passes at this time, Chris Passarelli: but we do want to add another five hundred on the weekdays, because that operationally seem to work well, and we do want to get as many people out on the water as we can without compromising the safety, the Ans security and sustainable operations, Chris Passarelli: so as far as what we recommend. As I mentioned, we want to put another five hundred uh weekday permits in there, Chris Passarelli: just to make sure that there is an option while still maintaining safety. Chris Passarelli: Um! Chris Passarelli: And we don't want to increase the strain on our limited like control resources during those peak times. Chris Passarelli: So Chris Passarelli: as we look holistically at this. Um, Chris Passarelli: This is going to refer back to the previous proposal of the reservoir only guest as well. So

[67:04] Chris Passarelli: we're proposing that for folks that buy a reservoir pass along with a boat permit if they go for both of those. Then, when they come up and pick, come in and pick up their permit, we would offer three paper, bring a guest, passes uh for small craft, permit holders and five for large craft permit holders. Chris Passarelli: Um! These would only work at the reservoir. But would it be a nice way to help bring someone in if, say they wanted to come along to with you as you Kayak? And and they could rent a board and join you on that, or come join you on a large craft. Chris Passarelli: Um! Chris Passarelli: So we're hoping that can help introduce new uh new folks, while also helping folks um get their permit and commit to a season out that there is Chris Passarelli: um. Last, but not least, we did talk about Chris Passarelli: the increasing of expenses. I really want to make sure we emphasize size on this. The lake patrol Hourly wages Chris Passarelli: have gone up approximately fifty percent since two thousand and twenty um,

[68:00] Chris Passarelli: and the roles have become harder to fill as well. So we would love to have as many people out there running everything all the time, but it is. The the wages have gone up, as well as the fuel and utilities that we also discussed earlier. Chris Passarelli: Um! Chris Passarelli: So as the Ans. Risks its surrounding bodies of water and continuing to increase. And we have to keep those boat inspector positions filled. Chris Passarelli: We're looking at the boat. Permit pricing um Chris Passarelli: Last year we did not Chris Passarelli: increase the boat permit prices Chris Passarelli: uh we wanted to keep the minute the impact minimal on folks, Chris Passarelli: and instead, that was when we separated out the bundle to access from the permits, so they, the value of them, stayed largely the same. Chris Passarelli: We acknowledged that that has to go up to keep pace with our expenses. Chris Passarelli: So we do have a ten percent uh rise across the permit classes based on the the increases and expenses that we've seen, Chris Passarelli: but I do want to highlight the middle rows here as well with the under fifty horsepower permit, and the sailboat permit.

[69:03] Chris Passarelli: When we took out the value of the Chris Passarelli: um access passes that used to be bundled with them. Chris Passarelli: The sailboat we we pulled out that value directly, and it left them, costing only a hundred eighty dollars, which really doesn't proportionally support the lake, patrol and boat inspection services. Chris Passarelli: So those permits we do want to by having a thirty percent increase which would bring it up to about two hundred and fifty dollars. Chris Passarelli: Um! That would Chris Passarelli: then realign the expense of the permit with the services that are being delivered, and the expenses that i'll go behind that. Chris Passarelli: So thanks. I know that's just a whole bugaboo there. Um! So that concludes, though our five operational areas. So I will hand back to Stacy Cole to go over some last feedback and other operational uh tweaks that we're looking at. Stacy Cole: Thank you, Chris. That was a great job. Stacy Cole: Um, So just some more highlights and questionnaire results. Um! The questionnaire results demonstrated that guests enjoyed their time at the reservoir over three quarters of the visitors reported having a very positive experience.

[70:05] Stacy Cole: Um, the main building is not getting used as much as we would like it to um, so there are definite opportunities for us to look at options for activating that space. A little bit more um respondents rated amenities Stacy Cole: um overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly, as somewhat or very positive Stacy Cole: Um, and almost half of the respondents are happy with the balance between the no wake and shared Lake time. Um, Stacy Cole: and that the balance of those is, we kind of want to adjust um so that we can mirror the percentage of no wake time in the high season to the same, being the same in the flank season, Stacy Cole: so um additional twenty-three adjustments that will be Stacy Cole: looking at our extending the flank seasons um from starting on April first rather than mid April, and then running all the way through the end of October. Um, and we we ended those in Mid-october this year.

[71:13] Stacy Cole: Um, so that would provide Lake patrol services on the water. Um for those that extended four weeks. Stacy Cole: Um, We definitely want to explore what kind of food options we can have at the main building area. Stacy Cole: And then, as I said, we're going to start to shift the No. Wait times during the flank seasons, so that we will be increasing the total. No wait time by approximately six hours per week to maintain that consistent fifteen percent of the total lake time. Stacy Cole: Um, throughout all of our fee seasons Stacy Cole: and back to you, Stephanie, to wrap it up. Stacy Cole: You're on mute.

[72:01] Stephanie Munro: Gosh, darn it all right, Thank you both. That was great. All right. So we are at the end, and we have some questions up here. Does Um. The first one is as the prop proposed that support the proposed operational updates Stephanie Munro: of the five topics discussed. We have them up there, and we will be able to go back and forth on um the slides, because i'm sure you all have lots of questions, Stephanie Munro: and then finally to wrap that up um, or is there anything else additional feedback? Um that you would like us to review and or look at for, uh possible, proposed operational adjustments for the two thousand and twenty-three um operational season Stephanie Munro: So with that questions thoughts. Stephanie Munro: Oh, I see Elliot already. Elliot go ahead. Um! So to kind of organize the the comment and questions I have. So

[73:02] uh, my first question is around the sustainability goals. So um do we have electric vehicle charging stations at the reservoir? Stephanie Munro: Yes, we do. How many do we have, Stacey? Do you know, off the top of your head. There are four. There are two stations that have a total of four chargers. Okay. Has there been discussion about increasing the capacity of ed chargers or stations at the reservoir. Stacy Cole: We have not had those conversations now. Um just given the um the clear um, I guess, increase across Colorado and and the country and and ev um, and you know our city sustainability goals being um somewhat centered around uh electrifying our grid. Um in our transportation system, I think we should look at that? Um, just as a comment.

[74:06] Um! And in tandem with that um do we have specific goals around like I understand. You know as a citizen of the city. I want there to be fewer gas guzzling cars that drive out to the reservoir and take up a parking space. Um. I want to see more a higher percentage of people who bike or carpool um, or, you know, walk over there, and but I recognize that it's a pretty long distance for most people to get out there, so they may not. That may not be the most feasible option for people. But, um! It'd be great if we I know we're thinking about. How do we increase the number of multi mobile and non gas guzzling, You know transportation visits to the reservoir. But i'm wondering if we have any specific goals around, you know, sustaining number of people, or increasing the number of people that visit, but decreasing the number of you know, fossil fuel um power cars

[75:06] that come to the reservoir. Ali Rhodes she/her: I I can chime in on that Elliot. We don't have facility specific goals around reducing vehicle Miles traveled. It is a citywide goal. That is one of the benchmarks that climate initiatives, tracks, and we report out on this is an area that the master plan has called out as an initiative we need to undertake in the next few years is develop those specific strategies, so that not only is the infrastructure resilient, but that our programming is thinking about that we're not there yet. Um, I can tell you that for the reservoir there are strategies that get. They're indirectly there are the strategies we talked about. I don't actually you might not have been on the board, so in two thousand and twenty we shared. There is a Ali Rhodes she/her: a planned network of path to correct, more, to to connect the heart of Boulder, which is just three miles from the reservoir to the reservoirs gate, and Osmp actually owns land, has an undeveloped trail that connects from the intersection of Um

[76:04] Ali Rhodes she/her: Forty-seven Street and Jay road it goes through the neighborhood behind the dirt road there, and connects to the boulder res where it's not developed, and so bicycles aren't allowed. So there's there's infrastructure planned and not funded, and there need to be management strategies. We're not there yet. Okay, Um. Just coming from the education world, you know. Goals are kind of the the way we drive toward targets. And uh, I always find that it's helpful to you. Set a goal around certain percentages of things. It makes you think critically about how to get there, but I I totally recognize what you're saying. Um, and it's great to hear that um bpr is definitely thinking about um about all of that, because it's a pretty important thing for the city. Uh so my and and i'll be done after this. But my next question relates to the events that we've had at the reservoir both the small and the medium size events. Um, when are those events typically held like you know? Are they middle of the day? Afternoon, morning, evening?

[77:05] Stacy Cole: Um. So our picnics generally happen throughout the course of our operating hours. Um. Our special events, which are open and accessible to the public typically are happening in that daytime timeframe, or even before ours, Stacy Cole: when they come in and start to set up such as the triathlon and running races. Um! Have there been any um complaints from neighbors, um or others about noise, or anything related to those small medium or large scale events that we've had, Stacy Cole: I would say, this year we were very successful in um monitoring sound, and we did receive one comment: Um, throughout the course of the year about noise and um, It ended up that that particular comment was investigated, and

[78:00] Stacy Cole: it it was a It was a non conversation starter. Okay, Thank you Stephanie Munro: all right. Thanks. Elliot. Um, Mary Scott, I see your hand up. Hey? Um, i'm just it. It might be. Well, I have two things. Actually, one is maybe bigger than this particular conversation. When you say, activate the main space. Um, I assume you mean, uh, private or publicly, and not like private events. Is that right? Stephanie Munro: So the the main, the the restaurants. The building is called the main building. So that's the the area that we're talking about. Um in activating that at that area better and more efficiently. Um, Stephanie Munro: it. It would be a combination of both that that area was designed, so that it has the public gathering um ability and programmability uh place to gather um and have the community use that space at the at the reservoir. Um. In addition uh Our concept plan shows that it should be activated into um some sort of a con concessionnaire cafe, restaurant type space.

[79:16] Stephanie Munro: Um, what that looks like. We're we're on sure at this at this time. Um. But in addition to that, the Boulder reservoir, master Plan also indicates that we do balance um events, whether that be medium small or large, um public or private events. So, Stephanie Munro: to answer your question, Mary, it's a it's a balance of all of that. And how do we activate that um to its fullest ability as well as um into that community effort is is something that we are always looking at, and always looking to improve. And and how do we do that? The best, Stephanie Munro: Allie? Did I hit everything there? Okay, Did that answer your question, Mary? Um, It it did. I just. I feel like with the you know the issues um that we've had out there. I just want to make sure that it's not just the seven of us. I don't think any of whom live there live out there. I just want to make sure that the community

[80:15] feedback, um, you know, is integrated into that decision. Um, i'm feeling a little um tonight with pickleball courts, and then thinking of the swimmers this summer, and you know, and the res and access it. Just There's obviously it's part of the being on the prab. But there are so many special interest groups, and i'm kind of sitting here trying to brainstorm. How can we make the city's work even more transparent for the public? One of my thoughts, I, you guys, do such a great job with stats that I don't know that it would be that difficult but potentially comparing, making five columns from Union Reservoir. How much it cost, how many square feet. How many citizens tax rate? I mean things that

[81:04] for all of these, including the res, make a lot more transparency for the public and for us? So we don't have to wait for a meeting to see, maybe even to have it on on parks and rec website as an ongoing annual thing to just update um those. No, maybe not annual. It might be every five years, as you guys do comparisons of different cities and costs and stuff Ali Rhodes she/her: I want to chime in on that. Because, Mary, I I hear your comment, and I I appreciate the the nod, for how do we take all of the information we have and make it Ali Rhodes she/her: um available transparent. We're actually doing a training next week on even just the language that we use. There's a lot of jargon in our business, right? And how do we make sure we're talking to community members in ways. What I what you just recommended was part of the two thousand and eighteen South Shore capital strategy. It's a document that's online. It's a comparison of all of the open water bodies on the front range. How they're operated um, and and I think, as it is German. Into this conversation the key distinction with the Boulder reservoir and those facilities is funding. The Boulder reservoir does not

[82:07] Ali Rhodes she/her: receive the South shore, the recreation areas right, the nap, the north shore. That's natural and open to the public and free. We operate that with tax dollars, but all of the recreation operations, and that's the biggest distinction between what we operate at the Boulder reservoir and what you find certainly at Union, although it's changing and drastically, as folks recognize um increasing costs and the need to pay for services Right? But um, Mary, I hear your point in two thousand and twenty-three. One of the things you're going to hear us talk about is the business plan for the boulder reservoir Ali Rhodes she/her: or the site management, if you will right. And what are we doing to continue to implement this team is doing such great work. But some of these are policy decisions. We shouldn't be revisiting every year. And And so how do we get that online? How do we get it? Really transparent? Um. Ali Rhodes she/her: And And so we'll continue to look at that but what you just mentioned, as far as a comparison, and benchmarking with the other, the other bodies of what we do have that available? Um, you said, Every five years. I think the last one was done in two thousand and eighteen, although Stacy, I think you guys do it informally more regularly than that.

[83:04] Stacy Cole: Yeah, we do check. Hi, um! I had a question about the boat storage uh costs uh It's my understanding that this these are for gravel parking spaces in the parking lot. Or is this for bow racks and small crap storage? Stacy Cole: The price that Chris quoted was for a gravel space. But we have multiple options with a different pricing structures. So we have rack spaces that have one cost associated with them. Um. And then we have our paved spaces which have another cost associated with them. Okay, Thank you. So Um, I have a couple of comments. Um, We heard a lot of testimony this at the beginning of the meeting about uh from older community rowing and uh, there are rowing users.

[84:00] Um! It was very concerning frankly. Um, they're talking about not being feeling not valued as partners in use of the rose. They're talking about. What they feel is unfair pricing early morning access period that are rather the fees that are um charged during to other users for the rest of the rest of the day. Extremely accelerating costs for them to join the rowing club and and participate in rowing um Lack of collaboration and more uh dictated edicts coming from a staff toward them. So these are all um, you know. These are things I don't have direct experience with, so I don't know uh how to how to evaluate their comments, and how to judge them and weigh them against the uh, while we hear from staff. So I guess I like,

[85:00] you know it concerns me, and i'd like I like to hear that we're doing everything we can to accommodate and reduce costs for users from nonprofit groups who open their um programs up to a low-income people and youth and other groups and we want to get out on the reservoir, and i'd be extremely concerned if they are going to have to close up shop, because the costs are simply beyond what most of them can can cover. Okay, So that's one comment. Um. So i'll just say everything, and then maybe I get feedback. Um! I was really struck by the difference in the number of users of small craft uh human power craft versus the power boats and the larger sailboats. Um. It's interesting that the no wake hours are the the split of the No wake. Hours doesn't come close to matching the number of users of each of these uh categories of of watercraft, and I feel like that. There's a

[86:02] they just connect there, and some of our um goals in terms of environmental sustainability. Um with the way we're partitioning late time and and and and a disconnect with the number of users in those different groups. And now we're partitioning link time among them. Um, i'm concerned about the aquatic nuisance species. I know we're going to be hearing more about millfall next month, so I won't comment further on that. But That's just another red flag that we're even with the extreme care and attention to detail that we're doing to try to remove those different species on craft that are in the right under any reservoir we're still not fully succeeding, and maybe mail for the of the three major nuisance species major maybe meal foils the least concerning, but it's still a sign that that contamination is an ongoing concern, and that sort of gets back to the craft that are the big risk for that which are the larger power boats that have ball of stinks,

[87:02] and I guess larger sailboats might as well. Finally, in regards to the fee, I the fees as entrance I'm. Still concerned about runners and bikers who are, might be surprised or caught off guard by entering the main entrance, and finding they have to pay a fee just to run around the lake, and it's a very hefty fee just to run around the trail, and one way to mitigate this. I know a lot of people access the trails at Ku Lake, and it might be nice just to have a sign there that informs runners that if they run counterclockwise around the lake they're going to have to pay an entrance fee, but if they want to run clockwise around the lake they Aren't going to have to pay an entrance fee because they're going to be entering the the back door, so to speak, so that would be a form of. I don't know how people to make a choice about which direction they're going to take the trail, and then not get surprised when they get to the entrance and get it with a hefty entrance.

[88:00] All right. I'll hang on for any feedback Ali Rhodes she/her: chuck. I'd love to start, and i'd love to respond to the user group comments, and I I I have to tell you that I'm: i'm Ali Rhodes she/her: trying to do this very carefully, and i'll just say that everything that is about to come out of my mouth is true, and the first is that for the user groups to hear that we have said, and and we mean. We have no interest for these groups to to not be in existence. We know that there is great camaraderie. There is great physical activity. Um we Ali Rhodes she/her: to to hear that that folks don't find as collaborative really disappoints me, because I know this spring I actually was in a lot of the meetings with the user groups for twenty, twenty-two, and I know that we spent hours, not only doing analysis and preparing options, but meeting with them and talking through them, and preparing materials, and so um Ali Rhodes she/her: it it. It's frustrating to hear that that that wasn't effective. I understand that folks are frustrated by the fees. So what I just pulled up is some some of the information we shared with them this spring. We've not yet done twenty twenty-three as our group fees, because we're still analyzing how the two thousand and twenty-two model worked. But in two thousand and twenty-two

[89:04] Ali Rhodes she/her: um we shared with the user group there are specific fees for their programs, The crew, Doc, that the crews use that is, that is a maintenance expense that these groups should pay for, because there's not community benefit there. It's for the user groups. There are program specific fees for their sheds and for their moorings, and so they are paying for those fees. Ali Rhodes she/her: There are common fees that all users of the reservoir pay that we have applied to these groups. There are common fees for permits and storage. There are common fees for access. Ali Rhodes she/her: Um! It was in two thousand and eighteen or twenty nineteen. We did analysis, and while most users, either through a punch card or an annual pass, or a drop in fee. The Avenue average revenue per visit was, let's say four, four to five dollars a visit. The row and user groups were paying fifty cents to visit, Ali Rhodes she/her: and so I can understand that the fee increases. Do feel significant to them. What will you been working to do carefully and slowly is to make it more fair, and we understand these increases. They have other costs. Rowing is an expensive course. There are there um sport. There are expenses related to their coaching

[90:09] Ali Rhodes she/her: and into their group. And so, as we've added the fees to Ali Rhodes she/her: not only have fairness to other folks, use the reservoir, but to cover our costs that has made their sport expensive, and that is challenging. Um. You heard earlier that mentioned that. See, you chose to move their mowing during operating hours rather than outside of reservoir hours. What we are doing is if they are uh wanting to be on the water outside of user outside of regular business hours. They're paying for the cost of those operations, because there's no other members of the community there. Our research has shown that but from five to six Am. The rowers are the only ones on the wall, Ali Rhodes she/her: and so those are not regular business hours. Ali Rhodes she/her: Um, chuck you! You have a whole bunch of other questions. But what I I guess what i'll i'll leave with is, it relates to user groups that I feel like the team has been very careful has been very fair. We are not trying to make revenue. If there is a profit this year, be clear that's not the goal for the reservoir. It's because there was significant savings. Is it related to some of the staffing and some of the things that did not happen, expenses that we budgeted for? And had they happened we would have broken even, which is the goal.

[91:13] Ali Rhodes she/her: Um! Ali Rhodes she/her: So just know that you know Susan and Um, Mark and other members of Vcr. We will continue talking with you and doing our best to manage the Boulder reservoir for everybody. Ali Rhodes she/her: And so with that, I think Stacey or Stephanie hopefully, you were taking notes. I know Chuck had some other questions. Stephanie Munro: Yeah, um, I'm Actually, Stacey, Do you want to talk a little bit about the shared lake last year uh two years ago. How we developed the shared Lake and the um no wake um scheduled scheduling of the lake and and share that everyone during those times can be on the lake. Yeah, Stacy Cole: I I think that's that's the important comment to make is that everybody can be on the water at any time. Um! It's just where they can be on the water, and how they can be on the water. And so when we have

[92:06] Stacy Cole: all watercraft on the water, and we are in a wake situation where the motor boats can create a wake. Stacy Cole: These small craft need to stay in the No wake area, which is a pretty significant perimeter around the outside Stacy Cole: um. And then, during the No Wake times the power boats can be on the water. They just cannot create the wake, So access is there all the time for everybody? It's just what they can do on the lake, and where they can go is different. During those times. Chris Passarelli: I can hop on one of the others, too, with just regarding the A Ands. Because I hear you chuck as far as the concerns about like what we're being really stringent. How did this still happen? Um! I had the same response when I first heard about the uh the millfoil. I do just want to note that this more than muscles and things

[93:01] Chris Passarelli: can come in and myriad ways it can be someone's boots. It can be waterfall. It can be a dog. Um! So we still, I believe at this point do not know where this came from. Um, but I guess I would just say it does not discourage me from Chris Passarelli: the importance of continuing to fight particularly against the muscles, and on being really diligent with the crafts Chris Passarelli: um, a few feathers have where they want to add to that, Stacy Cole: I think the only thing I would add, Chris, is that chuck you now that we're going to come back to you in December and give you a very um detailed update about the milf oil and and what's happening, and what our plans are moving forward. So at that time, you know we're happy to answer additional questions Once you have that information. Stephanie Munro: Okay? And the last, I think um question was the runners and the entrance. Um and Stacy correct me if i'm wrong. Um During flank season, the last two years we did allow runners to run through, but during high season is when we ask them.

[94:06] Stephanie Munro: So, chuck! Are you wanting us to look into possibility of the possibility of not charging during high season? Or I'm. I just need some clarity on on your common as far as runners dropped off outside by a car, and then they walk on, and don't pay their entrance fee, and I know that's very tough on staff to try to keep a handle on it. What i'm What i'm saying is that people that are accessing the lake from Kootlake may not be aware that if they run um counterclockwise around the lake they're going to have to pay an interest fee at the main entrance as they come around the lake, whereas if they run clockwise, they would not have to pay that fee. I'm just asking for an informational sign to let people know that, so that they're aware

[95:00] that Um, it's gonna they're going to have to carry some money, and they're running shorts if they if they run counterclockwise. Stephanie Munro: Yeah, I can speak for uh the time that I have been at the in the the gatehouse uh listening to the cashiers. Uh they do inform them of that. Um, I've heard them, you know, in inform them where to park as well as where to um, possibly go to the other direction. So there is some communication at the gate, Stephanie Munro: I struggling a little bit with a sign, because um! The more signage we put out there I think that it opens up the um. If I can run, then I can bike, and then I can also bring my little craft down there and get on the water. So I I cringe a little bit about people uh circumventing Stephanie Munro: the fee access area as well as the possible A ands risk that would pose uh people coming in through that area. Uh, just because they now know that they don't have to pay Ali Rhodes she/her: all that. The ideal state that we share is documented in the South Shore Capital strategy. What we want is a trail that circumnavigates the reservoir right for bikers for runners. It's, if you go to strava It is one of the most popular routes in Boulder. We know that right? And it's why, Chuck, I appreciate. You understand the issue. It's really then hard to manage. You know what is a user fee supported site. So ideally, we'd have this trail. You'd have clear gating and access to the recreation area.

[96:22] Ali Rhodes she/her: Yeah, but it's so. It's so hard because it's such a porous site. It makes it really hard on our team. It's not ideal just to make sure we're all on the same page that it's It's It's a um, it's an in between state that is problematic, all right. I think we answered your questions. Uh Stephanie Munro: chuck. Do you have anything? Okay? Um, I don't see any other hands. Am I missing anyone? I didn't? I didn't have a a complaint? I actually wanted her concern. I just wanted to say thank you, because I thought this is our third time hearing this, and I just wanted to tell you, Chris and And, Stephanie, you did a great job in that analysis, and I appreciate you looking at doing a new pass for two thousand and twenty-three that single pass, because that's what we asked for, You know um for you to look at, and that's what the patrons wanted. So I just wanted to say, Thank you for doing that.

[97:20] You put the questions back up, please, so we can peruse one more time. Thanks, yes, one moment, just one more quick question. Do we offer discounted uh passes for entrance or annual passes, either daily entrance or annual passes for low income. People? Chris Passarelli: Yes, Oh, yeah, sorry. Go ahead. Stephanie Munro: That that would be. Yes, Chuck, we do um. Stephanie Munro: That just to be Yeah, Go ahead. Go ahead. Ali Rhodes she/her: I was in. Say, our Equity Pass, which is the past. You actually in your consent agenda. We talked about funding for two thousand and twenty-three that provides a hundred percent free access for anyone who qualifies, and as a reminder in the pandemic we expanded what qualification looks like. So if you are on an unemployment, if you are working with one of our nonprofit partners, you get a hundred percent free access to all of our recreation facilities which includes the Boulder reservoir.

[98:14] Great. Thank you. Stephanie Munro: Alright, So Chris put those questions back up for us. Um! So just as a reminder um do. We're asking for if you support the proposed operational um updates of the five topics. Discuss this evening. Stephanie Munro: Um, and they're listed there and then. Our final question is, if there's uh any other questions or additional feedback that um on the proposed res of our operations that you would like us to to look at and review Stephanie Munro: between now and next month. Chuck, can I ask you a question? I got my I got myself confused by by your the um

[99:03] conversation. Are you in agreement with these five, based on what your concerns are? Yes, yes, my my concerns are about um other aspects of reservoir operations. Not these five topics, I guess, if you happen to know Stacy or um. Oh, your picture is not showing. I can't remember, Stephanie. Yes, sorry. That's okay. Do you? Are. There are the reservoirs the size of ours A. Anywhere, you know that that could be not too uncommon that just do not allow class five boats, since it is so small Stephanie Munro: there are absolutely reservoirs. I'm gonna let Stacey answer that question. Stacy Cole: Um, Mary. There are a number of reservoirs that only allow small craft. Um that are in our proximity. Um. But also

[100:07] Stacy Cole: there are some conversations happening across the country about um what we consider to be cost five boats. Um. So that is our classification at the Boulder reservoir. That is not a statewide classification or a national classification. It was just a way for us to kind of look at the boats and figure out how the risk Stacy Cole: kind of laid out with the boats. Um! But with those larger wakeboard, slash, ballast, tank boats. Um, there's some conversation and some research happening about those boats and the impacts that they have. And I guess. Yeah, not to be overly provocative. But I really appreciated what Chuck said about that. Our environmental awareness. And you know the edge that we'd like to create just that. I mean I enjoyed boating growing up, but that's a pretty small reservoir from the razor. I've been to all around the country and beyond, and

[101:04] you know i'm just gonna throw out hopefully. Classify boat owners don't come back and harpoon me. But you know that at some point ecologically, this is a really um outdoorsy community, and you know, uh um! What do you call it? Skate Skiing uh water Skiing is is really fun when you have to make those super tight curves in a small reservoir to me, not as fun, but that's just me at some point i'm just gonna throw out there that in the next, whatever ten years or less, that we have a really robust uh, and, as we used to call it, in my old job, a courageous conversation about classified boats at all on such a small reservoir, with all of the constraints on a lot of levels that we have. So I just wanted to say that for the record. Thank you. Nothing against boat owners. By the way, Ali Rhodes she/her: I i'll add so, Mary. One of the things that is that governs Boulder reservoir policy is the two thousand and twelve Boulder reservoir master plan. At that point there was a courageous out, loud conversation about power boats,

[102:09] Ali Rhodes she/her: Um, and at that time city Council and the prab discussed several options, and the option that was determined at that point was one, a a careful mix of voting types and two adaptive management practices, and so that the team, as you saw with this class five and no new permits right. We have continually managed. But Stacy. I don't want to make up numbers in two thousand and twelve. How many class five boats were there, I think, like two hundred right. Ali Rhodes she/her: I I think it was like one forty-four or something like that. Yeah. And so over time as we've restricted access right, you can't take your boat and go around to other places and come back to the res. You can't get a new boat. We are seeing a natural attrition to the class, five boats, and that is a conversation that we intend to keep having. I i'm, not predisposing an outcome. But we agree with you, based on the research based on continued trends, part of adaptive management is continuing to ask the question, What's the right mix of voting at the Boulder reservoir,

[103:06] and then i'll just add that if there's no new permits if i'm new to boulder or new boat, and I can't get a permit like, how fair is that that the seventy, whatever or five people who have it have them indefinitely. You know. How do you manage that? But I know you guys know that already. So thanks great. So I know this Isn't: a vote, right? Is it Just Ali Rhodes she/her: discussion? Is Bond. Okay? Thank you to get your wonderful insights. But yeah, then, we do have next steps. But I wonder if we could go back a slide? But following on your comment check, I wanted to make sure did we get? And all the other I heard you respond to the five. We see a general straw poll that those make sense. Were there any other questions or comments that we should take in at this point Ali Rhodes she/her: I see head nodding sunny. Thank you,

[104:01] watching the faces. Ali Rhodes she/her: Okay, So want to make sure because this is your chance. What end up happening? Right. We take the input and the team will talk about next steps. But this really is helpful for us, because what what I appreciate this team has done because it's modeled it for the other areas of the department is, we're going to develop our two thousand and twenty-three operation plan. And then next summer we're we're in. Go mode right? There's not time for creating new plans and entertaining two ideas, right? And so this is this is our chance to say, Okay, What What What is twenty? Twenty-three look like and all With that you can go into your next steps team. Thank you for Ali Rhodes she/her: making space. To make sure we heard everything. Stephanie Munro: Yeah, Sorry I was having a hard time unmuting myself. Um. So yes, our our next steps are uh we will be providing that final overview summary of the two thousand and twenty-three reservoir operations um in the prep matters uh from the department next month in December, and you will also see um the ans uh program Summary report also in uh that memo next uh month.

[105:13] Stephanie Munro: Um, just i'm not sure if you were aware. But we are back to running our continuing of our open to the public watersite chats. We've already had one Stephanie Munro: um last month uh in No? Well, i'm sorry it's November still is that this month November Um. And then our next one will be in January, and then in February, before we start our uh high season operations. Those are at the reservoir five, thirty Pm. And again open to uh, anyone that wants to attend. So lots of different uh voices and thoughts and ideas. Stephanie Munro: Um are discussed during those times. Um. And then finally, the rest of our staff will begin operating, planning for implementing any operation adjustments in January of two thousand and twenty-three. Stephanie Munro: With that

[106:00] Stephanie Munro: there's one more slide, Thank you. Oh, he's not gonna show up, but it's a great thing! Thank you um for your time tonight, and of course, the staff effort. It's um a heavy load for uh Chris and Stacy and myself. But there are also lots of other members on this team that Stephanie Munro: helped us along uh to produce this wonderful report out. So thank you all for um sitting through that, and thank you for um hanging with us tonight. Great. With that we'll move on to matters from the department and ally um. You wanted to talk about the December meeting. Ali Rhodes she/her: Yeah, and in fact. Um, I do want to tell you. December twelve. I actually have an update in the fact that unfortunately there was a water main break at the Brenton building um, which is one of the locations, so uh to say out loud, The city has now several rooms that are prepared, ready to go with tech and everything to facilitate. Really well done. Hybrid board meetings um with the goal for all of the groups to be hybrid by the end of the year, because our meeting moved up two weeks because of the holidays. There's several other board

[107:12] Ali Rhodes she/her: meetings that night that coupled with the flood means we don't. We don't have a good room for December twelve, so hopefully you all will support one more virtual meeting, and then, January, We will be ready to go um full steam ahead. With your normal meeting date. We have a room reserved. Rosa has that all booked out for twenty twenty-three I can't remember if it's at Brenton or Tate, but we have a beautiful, lovely room. You will be hybrid. We're gonna ask you to wait one more month. Well, I appreciate that. Ali Rhodes she/her: Is that it do you? Questions, comments, concerns you. You look very concerned about it. I'm concerned because i'm so bummed. It was so lovely, being with you all in person, and I know It's nice being in our basement and being able to go upstairs to our families right afterwards. But there's there's something to be said, for in person collaboration, i'm eager for it to happen. Um having a moment to to connect before the meeting. Right um, So I I feel so sad that i'm asking you to wait a month, but we just simply don't have an easy space to make it happen in in December.

[108:14] Ali Rhodes she/her: Chuck. You have a hand up. Yeah, are Are they hybrid meetings going to be a hybrid from a public participation point of view or hybrid for the Uh members of the crab as well as well. Ali Rhodes she/her: That's a really good question. Um, my! I'm going to talk about three levels for public participation. Absolutely hybrid one of the the barriers that's been broken down from the pandemic right? I'm a working mom with two kids. I can show up for public comment from my basement and get back upstairs to Hamburg. I hope her right and the kids and whatever is going on upstairs. So from a public participation level, absolutely hybrid, I'm going to need to double check on boards. I do believe Board members can attend hybrid, and the perhaps should consider a conversation about if you have preference. And, Elliot. You had made it a comment at the Retreat that it might be time to update your handbook,

[109:00] Ali Rhodes she/her: your meeting rules, and information from the Charter about whether you're in person or hybrid is something to consider. Um, I'll get back to you with the answer on that, and from a staff perspective my direction will be. Folks who are presenting should almost always be in person. But sometimes we have subject matter. Experts who are just here, if we need them, or folks might have things going on. Staff will be a mix of um in person and virtual. Okay? I asked. Because January, February and March. I will be in Fairbanks, Alaska. So Ali Rhodes she/her: um for me it'll be hybrid or nothing. Yup! So chuck i'll follow up, and in Rosa I don't know, if you remember, from all of our conversations with the clerk's office. I I remember the conversation about updating the Charter language to make sure it's clear, and I just i'm sorry the details are escaping me at the moment. I don't know either, but we can find out tomorrow. Ali Rhodes she/her: Chuck, we'll get back to you. I believe hybrid is is allowed, and we'll get we'll send. How about this? We'll send the board an overview of board attendance, and then perhaps we consider a matter from the board at your December meeting about If you want to set meeting norms about attendance, how many meetings, hybrid, virtual present, And it could be something you consider updating in your handbook and your meeting rules

[110:15] Ali Rhodes she/her: thumbs up. Sounds good. Ali Rhodes she/her: Thank you. Ali Rhodes she/her: Okay, great. Then we'll move on to the Pleasant View field access parking an improvement, visibility. Study. Ali Rhodes she/her: Yeah. For this item. I'm gonna introduce our senior landscape architect, dog uh senior landscape architect, Doug Godfrey um and take a minute just to appreciate Doug for eleven years of service to the city of Alders Parks and Recreation Department. Those who are in early in the meeting heard that he, uh will be joining his wife and daughters in England later this week, and I know he's excited to be back in a home with furniture, and to be with his family, and to begin this new adventure. He has left his mark across our community and the parks that he has helped to read. Ali Rhodes she/her: He was our Lead Project Manager for Scott, Carpenter Pool, the Boulder Reservoir Main Building. What a way to leave your mark on a community Right? Um. He's left his mark on our organization as well. He's an incredibly bright teammate who has made conversations better. He's made days more fun. He's pretty witty. Um, and he can. Uh, he's! He's a mean Hercules Mulligan. So, Doug: Thank you so much for your service. Your last item. We're gonna talk about the uh pleasant view. Access. Thank you.

[111:24] Doug Godfrey: Yeah, I think. Thank you, Allison, for those nice words. I I really appreciate it. And um Doug Godfrey: it it's been heck of a run, and I I've told people many times that the the work that I've done here with uh boulder parks and Rec has been some of the most profound work that I've done, and I, you know, like Alice instead. I've been doing this for eleven years with the Department, and I had ten years on the private side prior to coming here. So Doug Godfrey: um! Doug Godfrey: It's. It's been really meaningful work for me, and this changed kind of how I move throughout the profession quite profoundly. So, um, thanks to you, Allison, for the you know space to do that as well as everyone that that came before you and all of my supervisors, too. So. Um, yeah, thank you. And so yes, I am here tonight to give an update on the pleasant view. Um, access improvements. Um feasibility. Study um parking access

[112:20] Doug Godfrey: and feasibility study, and I'm going to try and share my screen here. I do have a Doug Godfrey: quick presentation. I know we're getting towards the end of the meeting here, so i'll try and make this as clean or as quick and concise as possible. Um, Doug Godfrey: But yeah, So we we started this project several months ago. And um the we're at a point now where the consultant uh Fox Total Transportation group has completed their existing conditions. Analysis out at um Pleasant view, and so we just wanted to give you an update and a little bit of background. Um! And then take any questions that you might have.

[113:02] Doug Godfrey: Um. Can you all see my screen? Okay. Doug Godfrey: Okay. Great Um. So again, the purpose of this feasibility studies to identify recommendations for physical site improvements and ask access management strategies to address parking issues. Multimodal transportation and safety concerns. Doug Godfrey: Um. It looks to develop a process and timeframe for next steps and implementation strategies and provide high level cost, estimating for potential site improvements. Um, i'll. I'll highlight that, Doug Godfrey: you know this is a a feasibility study, and what that means is Um, we hope that there's some really good, and you know we we hope that they're really good recommendations and strategies that come out of this. Um, what I just want to make sure that everyone knows is that there will be next steps to this. Um! There might be some things that come out of this that are that? Do you have some immediate action items that we can take advantage of? But I think a lot of what's going to come out of this is um kind of what those next steps need to be. How do we

[114:05] Doug Godfrey: with the public? Um, You know, How do we actually move through the process of permitting some of these uh site improvements uh recommendations that come out of this study. So it is kind of a a springboard into what I think and hope will be um a much more um robust process after this. Um, Doug Godfrey: so a little bit um. I know you know a lot about the the background of the facility. But pleasant view is classified as a premier athletic field for the department. Um. It hosts a wide range of activities and events over the course of three seasons. So you know, we have everything from um kid and Adult League games at Pleasant View to um Doug Godfrey: a lot of different tournaments like Rugby soccer um and ultimate frisbee tournaments out there. Doug Godfrey: Uh the current design is based off of a nineteen ninety-three preliminary plan uh that plan had eight full size, soccer fields, a Rugby field, and then um a couple of warm up facilities uh warm up fields kind of interspersed through the plan as well. Um

[115:15] Doug Godfrey: in two thousand and seventeen. That field layout was adjusted to accommodate more youth, soccer, play, and this resulted in uh three additional fields. Um, at the facility Doug Godfrey: um in one thousand nine hundred and ninety-three for that one thousand nine hundred and ninety-three plan, the totals for uh the the total number of parking spaces out there, based on that plan, was five hundred and thirty one, and i'll just note that Um! That was a mistake. I had four hundred and seventy-nine in the proud memo. It's actually five hundred and thirty-one. There was a um row of parking along the west border uh that I did not count, and um caught, as I was putting the presentation together. So there are actually five hundred and thirty-one space Doug Godfrey: that were called for um in that one thousand nine hundred and ninety-three plan. The current parking totals are actually four hundred and sixteen spaces. And so if you kind of figure out where the spaces did not happen. There were these seventy-eight stalls up here at the far northwest corner again, those uh parking stalls along the western edge, and then there were some stalls along um the south side along Kalmea that did not go in as well.

[116:27] Doug Godfrey: Um, I Doug Godfrey: do not, I cannot. Um. I do not know specifically why those stalls didn't go in. Um. I have an idea that the ones along the western edge of the facility did not go in because um of when Doug Godfrey: the how the the the neighborhood to the west developed um that's where the multi-use path is now and there's um that multi-use path of but right up against the those um, Doug Godfrey: those that those housing units along that western edge there. So that is, you know some of the reason we're one of the reasons Why, those parking lots to the park installs do not happen there.

[117:04] Doug Godfrey: Um! Doug Godfrey: So a big, you know this The The consultant did the point where they're at right now is they've completed a draft of the existing conditions. Um part of the larger plan. Doug Godfrey: Um The team. The The existing conditions looks at the actual site conditions out there. The historic and current programmed events, facility, usage, previous plans and documents. Land uses zoning multi. You multimodal transportation access, Doug Godfrey: user feedback and onsite data gathering Um, The onsite data gathering was a big component of putting this existing conditions um part of the report together that that onsite uh observation included uh looking at parking utilization, Doug Godfrey: offsite, parking use, bicycle and pedestrian site, access and circulation. Um! The consultant team was out there for two days. They were out on October fifteenth and October sixteenth, on October

[118:10] Doug Godfrey: fifteenth. It was uh the fields were again. That was a Saturday, and they were used and reserved by Um Bc. You Boulder County united, and on Sunday Doug Godfrey: the sixteenth um. There were reservations out there for Vcu and um some adult league play as well, so um and you can see the the um Doug Godfrey: the results of that onsite um data gathering and observations. Um, Their full report. Their draft report is in as as an attachment to the um, the proud memo Doug Godfrey: um Doug Godfrey: some of the this is not all of the preliminary findings and takeaways that you'll find in that report. But I pulled out some of the ones that I thought were a little um more relevant. But again they're they're all important. But these are the ones that stood out to me.

[119:09] Doug Godfrey: Um! First one being there's an adequate There is adequate parking and reasonable access to the fields during weekday activities uh challenges with parking supply and reasonable access generally occur on the weekends, and primarily on Saturdays. One Doug Godfrey: Um, i'd say that the the one caveat to this is uh when the facility has tournaments. Doug Godfrey: Um, I think when we have tournaments out there, you're clearly gonna get um a lot of activity on both the Saturday and Sunday, and you know if there's anything that happens on a you know Friday as well. But um for the day like I said they were out there for um some games from you, some you games on Saturday, when they saw the heaviest usage on the on the fifteenth. Doug Godfrey: Um on, and I I do think also, you know it could be a a you know a point of conversation, for the proud and among staff is, if we would see um merit in having the consultant go back out and do some data gathering when there. It actually is a a tournament going on for both those for both weekend days, both Saturday and Sunday, and

[120:16] Doug Godfrey: when you look through the report, I think it's or this existing conditions, I think it's pretty clear that on days like Saturdays, there. Um, Doug Godfrey: there's parking that, have you? Parking within. The existing lot is very difficult, and there is some spill over into um, some adjacent properties, and along count me as so I think that problem is is clearly only going to be exacerbated when there are, you know, larger tournaments going on going on both Saturday and Sunday. Um, you know Again, one of the reasons, you know. Sunday. Doug Godfrey: Uh we are. Uh, my! My understanding is that Doug Godfrey: um! Some of the vendors do contract with cavalry, and so on Sundays, when Calvary has service, the those spaces are not open so obviously. Again, there's gonna be more of a parking issue out there on on Sundays.

[121:08] Doug Godfrey: Um, let's see. So on busier weekend days the current parking supply and the parking lot is inadequate for the number of motor vehicles arriving Doug Godfrey: in general. There's good bicycle and pedestrian facilities allowing for access to be to pleasant view through though limiting access to the east entrance causes confusion and conflict. So you have the bikes coming from the other trail systems, and there are those conflicts that can happen right at that entry gate on the east side Doug Godfrey: uh the primary facility, Doug Godfrey: the primary facility missing for complete bicycle and pedestrian access to the fields are bicycle facilities along Calmedia Um as we've noted uh the the bike lines uh do end a little bit farther to the west on Kalmi at Island.

[122:00] Doug Godfrey: Uh, while some of the event related parking was found in adjacent neighborhoods. The amount was small, with most occurring in areas closest to the fields, and i'll just go back to what I said a little bit ago that I think that um on tournament days where there are larger number likely going to be larger number of people's up people out there that um, we might see more of an impact to those adjacent neighborhoods than we would Doug Godfrey: um similar to what we saw on the fifteenth when they were out there um doing those counts. And when they were out there they did see illegal parking along Calmedia and in the adjacent businesses. Doug Godfrey: So um! That's a really quick overview. I think a lot of um. The information is is is in that existing conditions report, and there's a lot of it in there, so I didn't want to spend too much time going over that, since this is just an update. But I I did want to um Doug Godfrey: here from the prab, and your thoughts if there's any glaring issues. Um you saw with the existing conditions report. If you had any questions Um, but beyond that, our next and i'll take those in the second. But beyond that our next steps are

[123:13] Doug Godfrey: um. They're gonna take the comments from the prab as well as staff and finalize this existing conditions through November and December, Doug Godfrey: uh December and January. Will they will be preparing a draft feasibility study, and then we'll be coming back to the prab um as a discussion. Item um discussion information item in February, and then we hope to have the plan uh finalized by March Doug Godfrey: Again, if we do think that there's merit in having um Doug Godfrey: some additional onsite data gathering done perhaps over a a tournament. We'll need to work with our athletics folks and the consultant to see when the best time for that would be, and how they could use that information to um change or inform the

[124:04] Doug Godfrey: the final plan. So Doug Godfrey: Thank you. And yeah, if there any questions, i'll go ahead and try and field those now. So who'll be taking over for you? Um after you're gone. Um. We have a new senior landscape architect. Her name is Darren Wagner. Um Darren actually Doug Godfrey: um used to work for the city's open space and mountain parks group, so she's a very familiar um with the city. And uh, one of the individuals who one of the on the consultant team um with Fox Tuttle. His name is Um. Bill Cowan and Bill used to work for the city's transportation department. He's again now with Fox Tuttle, so he's very familiar um with this site, and and you know a lot of things going on in adjacent areas around the site. So Doug Godfrey: he's gonna to be a a tremendous asset to work with, and both he and Darren have worked together. Um on. I believe it was the the access plan for Chautauqua. So this fits this particular project will fit right Fit in well with with the Darren and Bill.

[125:11] Okay, Thank you. Were there any questions from the prab? I have one. Okay, I I see Elliot and then, Mary, it's uh, just quickly. How do we categorize the parking at the church? Is that it's not illegal. But is it on sanctions? Is it adjacent? Um, um That kind of catalyzed, Doug Godfrey: I mean. I I think it could be considered illegal in that, you know someone could be ticketed for parking in that spot or toad, that being said, uh, and my understanding is that Doug Godfrey: some vendors do have a contract with cavalry to park there on Saturdays. Um for some events. So um in that regard it's it's not illegal. But if they are in there on Sunday or some time, that where a contract is not in place, then they could likely be towed.

[126:10] Doug Godfrey: And then it is all. If you are looking along. Cal. Me of those uh this, Doug Godfrey: tell me, is actually signed for no parking. So that is illegal parking there. And just so i'm clear, because i'm not as familiar with what a feasibility study is. Um, you know nuts and bolts. Are we looking at solutions to the various problems that you've highlighted in your presentation, or is it some other Doug Godfrey: um like? What's this study going to show us? And what are we going to comment on? Yeah, It it's a good question. It's they're going to provide recommendations for? You know best recommendations based on the information that comes out in the existing conditions Doug Godfrey: to um. They're going to use that to provide recommendations and strategies that we can um

[127:00] Doug Godfrey: further look into if that makes sense, because you know what you know just as an example. What we want to do right now is, say, Well, let's start charging to you, Park, in the parking lot, or let's go Just put parking out on Calmia. There's steps that need to happen. After that we want to be able to talk with the user groups to um where the contractors to and vendors to understand what impact that would have on on their service. And so Doug Godfrey: that's just not something that was covered in this particular report. So we want to make sure that we understand what that next step needs to be. But this is going to give us a a much better idea of um. You know what what has the potential to be most successful out there. Great. Thank you. Yeah, Mary. Then up um, Doug: I'm just wondering when you are working on an issue regarding parking or cars or movement of people around the city of any kind. Do you work at all with people from the Transportation Board or their city support staff?

[128:05] Doug Godfrey: Um On this team we do have one, if not two members from the the transportation uh group kind, of helping out and providing their thoughts and comments. Uh, David, David Thompson is is one who is Doug Godfrey: um been looking at this as well. He's a little hard to wrangle with his workload, but he's definitely someone that we have engaged with. And again I will say, Ha! Having Bill coward on, you know bills with the city for many, many years, and so he's a tremendous asset to have um as part of this part of this team. He's very familiar with all of the cities processes and existing plans that are out there. So Yeah, thank you. Um. So first of all, I wanted to thank you for a great presentation. And Doug, I'm: sorry we won't get to see more of you in the future, and uh really enjoy the presentation you gave. Thank you. Sure, um fox tunnel does a really good job. So congratulations on selecting them to do the to do this analysis

[129:09] and the feasibility study so good choice. There. Um! I want to point out that one of the ways they they're freezing is very careful right in in the side you have up. They say current parking supply, and the parking lot is inadequate for the number of motor vehicles arriving, and they don't say they're not enough parking spaces to two different kinds of things. Um, because one could reduce the number of motor vehicles arriving and get rid of the problem as well. Um, So I think they're they're good in that respect that they don't have a a purely auto-centric um viewpoint, which you might get from some transportation consultants. Um! I want to sort of play devil devil's! I advocate for a moment, and um ask what is the benefit to the city and its citizens, of having large regional tournaments that attract teams from all over the State, and maybe from other States

[130:01] to come and play in boulder. What what do we get out of it? Why should we host these large turn of months at possibly considerable cost, the since they're the only things that are causing the uh mismatch between parking supply and number of arriving vehicles. Ali Rhodes she/her: Um, that, Alison, I might use you for a little bit on this one I will. I mean I will in that, because it's it's not a you know It's not a planning question. It's an economic vitality question, while it's not heavy in our strategy. There are some communities who rely on regional national tournaments exclusively as a funding source for maintenance, for filling hotel nights. Boulder is a tourism heavy town. We actually say no to tournaments more often than we take them. For example, there was recently a large national tournament Ali Rhodes she/her: taking place in August, and we we don't have the hotel nights right in August. We are very heavy with just summer tourism. Move in with the university, but for regional tournaments. There are. Um! We should. We should prepare an overview of what age levels they serve right. But I could tell you, having middle school children if we're not playing in boulder on a weekend, we're driving somewhere, because, as children go older that the the competition in the community doesn't exist anymore, and you do play in regional. And so if you're never if you're never hosting, then you're always dry,

[131:22] Ali Rhodes she/her: and you're never getting the benefits of hosting, which is that people do buy meals. There may be hotel nights if it's if it's a larger tournament, so there is some economic benefit. But you kind of nuts on it the key point they're chuck, and that it needs to pay for itself Right? It's it's there is some economic benefit, and how we do it. We often work with the Convention and Visitors bureau to analyze What's the economic impact of this event? And so i'll i'll. I'll make up the numbers, I believe a Cu. Home game Ali Rhodes she/her: um Ali Rhodes she/her: has a significant like million plus dollar impact. Every weekend there's a home game for see you the boulder boulder similar. They can estimate that based on how many people are coming for how long they're coming. Iron Man. Similar right? We know when folks come they come for four to five nights. They spend thousands of dollars, and there's economic benefit there, especially because maintenance on our facilities is funded by sales tax. So um!

[132:13] Ali Rhodes she/her: There are reasons, and they should pay for themselves. Um! The other thing I want to add a caveat, and I say this: some of this i'm trying to remember the details of the report. It is not just the tournaments where parking at Pleasant View is an issue. We're there uh in the spring. In the fall my family two to three days a week, and just at dinner Sunday evening it was a conversation about how hard it is the flow, and so it's not just about vehicles, even bicycles. My family most often comes in from the West, either biking, walking, or and that the access is an issue even just on the regular Saturday League play. Doug Godfrey: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I I hope I didn't come across as that it that it was only during tournaments when when there was a a parking issue, because what? What this report this existing conditions

[133:00] Doug Godfrey: report showed was that on that Saturday when the fields were used for League play. Um! There was definitely spill over into the adjacent neighborhood. So it it. It's absolutely a problem on just regular League play. Not even tournaments Turn of it would definitely be an issue, right, I guess, As we move forward in evaluating this problem and come up with solutions, I want to make sure the burden falls on the groups that are, or the events that are leading to the problem and doesn't fall on groups like grew grassroots ultimate, who, you know, occupy for her five fields uh during weekday, and if the overall cost of the other facility go up because we have to increase because of increased infrastructure costs. I want to make sure that they're not spread evenly across all users of the facility, but they are focused on the users that are causing the increased infrastructure costs and not on everyone else,

[134:02] anyway. That's um, you know. We're just talking about the existing conditions. I just want to sort of uh prime to pump a little bit for future discussions. Doug Godfrey: I agree with you, Chuck. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Doug. Doug Godfrey: Thank you. All. Ali Rhodes she/her: Alright. Ali the fiscal Two thousand and twenty-three operating budget. Who's gonna have this? This is your last update about the planning of the two thousand and twenty-three budget. And I think Jackson just has a very quick update that's written Here, Jackson, hide our business services manager. Jackson Hite: Exactly. Jackson Hite: Doug. I'm: gonna stop sharing your screen. Jackson Hite: Okay, Um, Thank you. Everyone for your patience. It's been a while since I've been on Zoom.

[135:00] Jackson Hite: I wanted to give you a Jackson Hite: sorry Let me put this in the present mode. Jackson Hite: Am I showing the wrong screen. Now Jackson Hite: it says two thousand and twenty-three budget. Jackson Hite: Okay, Um. So, as you all know, we started the twenty twenty-three budget development process back in February of this year. Um. The Prep. Had several different opportunities to weigh in on the Budget um from February through June starting, and Janet went to uh different Department White Review committees, the Executive Budget Team, the Financial Jackson Hite: Strategy Committee from City Council, and then it progressed through City Council Um as of the end of October we do have an adopted and approved twenty-three budget. Um. This is just to show you the high level overview. Um. The department does have five funds, and the twenty-three approved budget is thirty, five point nine million.

[136:03] Jackson Hite: Um. You will see this as a fairly significant increase from the twenty, twenty and twenty one actuals. Um! As we are continuing to recover out of the pandemic Jackson Hite: Um, we are still spending significantly less than twenty, nineteen, but as you recall twenty, nineteen we had two major capital projects that did cause our funds to increase substantially. Jackson Hite: Looking at our budget more by the categories and types of how we are spending. Um. The light blue on the bottom is our operating personnel that is paying the salaries um for all of our staff that provide the wonderful services. Jackson Hite: The green is our operating budget that uh we spend for the material supplies and services, and then the yellow is our dedicated Vpr. Capital funds, whereas the mustard color is um additional funding that's provided through one time capital funds that are recurring sources of funding Jackson Hite: in the black numbers. You will see um what the combined operating budget is, and that's really focused on our um people and things that we're buying on a yearly basis and isn't specifically focused on the capital budget that varies um rather substantially every year.

[137:15] Jackson Hite: So you can see that our biggest um increase in twenty-three is focused on restoring um, continuing to restore people and positions. Um as well as just the general increased cost of labor for providing the services Jackson Hite: within the green line. You will see that we have accounted for increased cost, escalation for the various supplies and materials that we do purchase. Um, which was very fortunate for us to do. Given how early we developed budget. Jackson Hite: So all of these are pretty charts. Um. Unfortunately, we don't have uh as many pictures for the budget, but the four key areas where you community members residents will see budget enhancements are focused on the Ranger pilot program. Um, the personnel that I already mentioned, taking care of what we have, and then inflationary expenses

[138:01] Jackson Hite: within the future pilot program. Um City Council did approve, continued funding for the pilot through next December, Jackson Hite: and with that we now have one working supervisor, and as of two weeks from now we will have uh two rangers filled that are working year round in addition to one temporary staff member that uh works over the peak summer season Jackson Hite: in terms of personnel. Um! We are continuing to fte that we're funded through our both um. These are tied to the sports, health and wellness and East Border Community center work groups, Jackson Hite: and then we are implementing a few new positions. Um, We have a programs and partnerships manager that will focus on leveraging, funding um and finding better opportunities for grants philanthropy and donations. That will be a new position um coming in twenty-three. Jackson Hite: Additionally, with the um increased use and maintenance of the system, there will be a new landscaping and irrigation technician for the civic area um which in this is the entire central zone, which is Pearl Street, Mall um downtown campus and a few pocket parks. Um within the central zone,

[139:12] Jackson Hite: as you heard earlier. Um! The reservoir is continuing to see increased usage, and with that there is a year round boat inspector that will be um included in the budgets. This is really intended to provide consistency and um that year-round support, since people are entering the reservoir throughout the entire season, and not just the peak season, Jackson Hite: and then, finally, there will be a water safety coordinator for the Aquatics Work group to help restore swim lessons that have been impacted over the course of the pandemic Jackson Hite: as far as taking care of what we have. Um, we didn't include nine hundred thousand dollars in the budget to really focus on the R. Andr, and the maintenance of some different asset types that are incredibly valuable across the system. Allie mentioned earlier that we are investing over two hundred thousand dollars into courts maintenance. But we're also investing into our fields irrigation and then access and mobility, which includes a variety of parking lot improvements, um bike infrastructure sidewalks and different ways to move people around the system.

[140:13] Jackson Hite: And then, as I mentioned earlier, Um, we are accounting for inflationary expenses. So while the budget is growing um. Our purchasing power has decreased significantly over the course of the last few years, so we will see um. Some increased costs that don't necessarily cop for increase services, Jackson Hite: and with that um. All of this funding goes into effect on January first, and I just want to thank everyone in the department who was involved in the Budget Development process. Um. As well as the proud for your advisory role throughout the entire process. Jackson Hite: I do not have any questions for you tonight, but i'm happy to answer them. If there's anything you'd like answered. I think you should celebrate

[141:05] four slides. I'm very impressed with you right now. Good job any questions for Jackson or Alley. All right. Well, you can enter your December like hoof with a weight off of you. All right. The next thing we'll move on is matter from the board. Um. The new procedures. A video to zoom is that with you, Rosa? Yes, that was me. Um! I threw that on there? Um, just as an fyi that uh going forward. Um, all of the zoom webinars or zoom meetings um will be uh uploaded onto the city's Youtube uh Page, the playlist uh within four business days. So if you happen to miss the meeting and want to tune into what transpired, um wait about for business days and go to our Youtube Web Page, and you'll see the

[142:11] the meeting. Um recording there. Ali Rhodes she/her: I I want to double click on that as a process improvement that's never before been available. We have meeting recordings. If you just want to listen to board meetings. Of course there's the minutes. But um, you know, speaking of transparency and making information available to the community, I think having these meetings available in the zoom recording is a is a really great process. Improvement. Great. Thank you. And then, if you um all you want to talk about the application or the crab um recruitment. Ali Rhodes she/her: Uh, I can do that this is an item. The clerk's office every year solicits input from existing board members as they begin to recruit. So in January they'll begin the recruitment process for new board and commission members. This board will have two seats to fill, And so we would like your input on the questions for that application with Chuck and Pam's approval, we took an initial go. It's some improvements based upon where we are in our planning process, with our our strategic planning.

[143:15] Ali Rhodes she/her: Um. And if if you have input for us we'll we'll hand it off to the clerk's office. I believe they they needed it in the next week or so. So we don't have a lot of time for heavy um word, smithing and and group think. But I guess hopefully, I I trust this group to be effective Ali Rhodes she/her: and and thoughtful. I would ask you to consider just the we've talked about welcoming and inclusive, and so making sure that the process, you know, sunny. Um, you just went through it. And so, having input on on the application would be really valuable great. They can email you Ali Rhodes she/her: uh folks could email us, but I think we have some space. If you want to have a conversation about it right now, that would be great.

[144:02] It looks like Elliot has a question, though. Yeah. Just two quick thoughts. Um. One is, I think, that it would be helpful to add a question that asks applicants what they're unique. Experience or perspective is that they are going to bring to the Board. Maybe that's embodied in some of the questions. But we ask you, why do you want to join this board, and then we get into You know what legacy do you want to leave? Which I have a comment about? And then we get into um. You know more specific questions about how do we? How can we possibly spend uh money to put out all needs, you know, and I and how you would you deal with that? So I think it'd be helpful just to kind of give people a softball like what kind of you know unique perspective or experience would you bring to this? For, given its mission? And in the scope it's work. Um! Just to give people a chance to like, you know. Talk about that? Um, and it may yield some interesting answers. Um! The second thing is the this: isn't as much about the content of that question, but I was a little confused about the fact that the

[145:10] and I don't have my but for some reason my adobe Pdf. Fro. So i'm not looking at the question. But for memory, I recall that the first question is, Why do you want to join this board? And then in the same line? It starts a question about legacy um like, What do you want to accomplish or or have accomplished in five years? I think that should be either separated or it should be deleted. Um, I I think it's a different question than why do you want to join the board? Um, and um the legacy question I feel like for someone applying It's a little bit abstract. I think it would be better just to ask people what you want to accomplish on this board, I mean that's a lot more um tangible for somebody who's never served on this board. Um, but that's just my suggestion. Then that's all for me and ally. It took a lot of patience, and for me to to to restrict my comments and words that thing to what was a minute. So

[146:15] Ali Rhodes she/her: can I ask a question on that. But i'm thinking of I'm reflecting in the conversation you all just had at your retreat about the role of the crab, and I wonder if the question about what you hope to see your legacy on the time of the board, If that's if that's confusing right like about. I I don't know. I guess i'd love the boards and put on Elliot suggestion to just strike that maybe the first question is, why do you want to be on the board. And what unique perspective experiences would you bring to the work? I i'd like to say something real quick. I think we should strike it, too, because it leads like when I was five years ago. Looking back at it, I was eager and thinking, Okay, legacy. Then you're We're going to make a difference right as an individual. But you don't, I mean we we do. Of course we do in the world, but we're a board. We're a collective body. We we don't individually leave a legacy. We leave a legacy as our as our group, so I think the question is inappropriate, in my opinion. But

[147:08] uh, Ch: I agree. Yeah, And I agree, too. I like the idea of having why you want to be on this board. What you need perspectives and inputs can you bring, or something to that effect? That would be perfectly sufficient. I I agree with that as well. I feel like the legacy is little misleading. Uh, for the reasons, Mary said. It's it it it. It gives you the impression that that you can have, you know, really like a Passion Project, or an idea that you can push through, and it's really more about, you know, just commenting on um, you know, making sure that that the direction that you're headed is a good direction rather than changing the direction so much like it feels. Yeah, having a legacy doesn't feel like the right term

[148:10] disappointing. Yeah. So I would like for someone to be assigned to rework these questions. Um, and send them to our prop email. So what we have here is um the list of four questions that um We were given towards Smith, but it sounds like um. You also have additional questions to add to this. So. Um Eliot, if you would like to send us a new document that would be great. I'm more than happy to do that. But I I don't want to speak on behalf of the Board. Um, i'm happy to like capture what I believe people have suggested tonight and send it on. But um! I think anything more than four is too much. I mean, you're you've got. I remember being like, you know. And then, yeah, Well, I, if you guys want to you guys want to delegate that to me. I'm happy to do it. I both for you.

[149:15] Thank you, Mary. Unanimous. Okay. When do you want that, Rosa. Yeah, I I'll do that in the next forty-eight hours. I'm not going to sit on it. Could you send me an email to remind me, though. Great thanks, Elliot, any more on that topic. Okay, we'll move on to prab matters, and there wasn't really much for us to sign up for. For, you know, based on the calendar that Alli went for the next couple of months. So does anybody want to just talk about what they've done since the last time we saw it, or we can

[150:02] and didn't. We say also Pamela and everybody at our meeting, that it's also a time to just not, of course, chit chat, but not just say what we've done, but also things and ideas that have come up meetings and such. Um, I guess. Ally uh Rhodes. That One thing was i'd love. If, as you're reading the calendar, I mean, I know we have our next meeting on uh uh December twelfth, I think. But to name all of the events up until the next meeting, because, like it was, it was top heavy on things before you know Christmas, and then nothing too much. Remember when you did the calendar very opening fun thing that we decided to have you posted it and read it, and maybe there aren't anything, because if we have December twelfth and they'll, I guess it'll be the end of January. They'll be like seven weeks before a ton of things will probably happen

[151:01] that we didn't hear about. Ali Rhodes she/her: So what I think you're asking is that for the December meeting the upcoming events be as robust as we can make it. We've talked about that as a team, and I think you'll keep seeing them think. Oh, yeah, that's the thing that probably would want to know about. We'll keep trying to add more and more to that great thanks. Chat. Oh, i'm sorry, Chuck. Then Elliot um. I met with a member of the Military Officers Association of America, who has a boulder chapter with about one hundred members, and these are tired veterans, largely, mostly in their late seventys and eightys. I'd say, pretty old group of guys, and they are interested in developing a um interpretive display at Bill Bauer Park. Bill Bower Park is on table, Mesa and Yale, so it's west of Broadway, sort of up the hill from the um King supers on table, mesa,

[152:00] and it's a small park that was developed in two thousand and fourteen as a neighborhood park, and it's named after Bill Bower, who was one of the famous do Little Raiders of World War Ii. These were airmen who launched their Air Force air airplanes off of a um aircraft carrier in the first year of the war. And uh, did the bombing run on Japan at a time when the Us. Was very much getting pummeled by the Japanese, and so it was a real morale booster for for the Us. And they they launched off this aircraft carrier, knowing they couldn't come back and land on the aircraft carrier. And so they had to proceed over China, where they bailed out of their aircraft, and about a third of them died. And so it's in part of suicide Mission, and and to some extent and Bill Bower did not, and he survived and became an Air Force colonel, and ended up moving to Boulder and retiring there and becoming a neighborhood fixture. And when the park was created. He was um. He was named in his honor. He had passed away about three years before the park was created,

[153:03] but this group of veterans has been trying uh since June, I guess, to get approval for a um interpretive display that has a plaque similar to one of Scott Carpenter park that describes skilled hour, and why the park is named after him, and includes some landscaping elements, and they're willing to raise the money for this through their veterans groups and various fundraisers, and they feel like they have neighborhood support, but they feel like they're not making much progress and getting approval, and they would like to, uh find a way to get their approval. Um as quickly as possible, and I think part of this is motivated by the fact that they're quite elderly, and many of them don't have a lot of time left, and they want to see this honor done to their um fellow veteran, so I guess i'd like to see if it's possible, and it was very short notice. But to have a short information item to discuss if there are any issues with this, or what could be done to allow this to move forward, or, if it won't, move forward, and for whatever reason, just a quick update on the status of this request.

[154:10] You're on Mute Alley. Ali Rhodes she/her: It's not great. Um, Ali Rhodes she/her: mark. Davis and I mentioned is out of the office through Wednesday. I will ask him about this. I don't, I mean, unless the the rest of the Board is interested. I can just get you an email on Friday with what I know with what the planning team has told them. Sometimes again, our pace just doesn't align with folks because of our resources. I don't know the details here i'll get them, and i'll report back to you. Ali Rhodes she/her: And so, if if the rest of the board is curious, I can, we can include a consent agenda item up the date in December or chalk. I can just shoot you an email i'm curious. Elliot your hands up. Yeah, just to wanna send a quick! Shout out to um our amazing department. Um! I was traveling. I've been traveling a lot the last year across the country, visiting family and whatnot and um i'm always struck by how great our part system is compared to

[155:07] municipalities across the country. Um, even in the fluent communities. Um! And um! I think we should be very proud of that. I know we did pick and um try, and you know, squeeze as much juice out of eleven as we can. Um. But I don't want to with sight of the fact that we have a real world class park system here, and it's doing no short measure to the amazing staff that are at the department. Um! And so I just wanted to to say that that was something that struck me over the holidays, and something that I was frankly thankful for. Um over the things to be on three. Ali Rhodes she/her: Can I say thanks on behalf of our team? Um. Ali Rhodes she/her: One of the things. I i'm incredibly grateful to be a part of this team. It is incredible work, and most people are in it because they're passionate about it, and the gratitude is low, and so when we hear it, it did. Is it is nice, and it is nice to hear that doesn't mean we don't also welcome the criticism. We want to be great, and we are committed to committed continuous improvement. But

[156:12] Ali Rhodes she/her: some some moderation is nice, and hearing the appreciation is is nice. We haven't. We have incredible peaks. We have an incredible system, and we we hope to keep make it even better anyone else. Thank you, Ali. If um, Ali, we Maybe it was two years ago we heard about this initiative to really look at renaming parks and placards and stuff, and I feel like that kind of trails on Chuck's group. Um, you know they want a placard, and so maybe we could also have an update on where we are as a city on Park naming renaming placards. And you know how we're going to acknowledge all of all of the people who parks are named after.

[157:04] Ali Rhodes she/her: So where we left. That effort was incredible recommendations from the students. It to you one of the I believe. I I don't remember one of the things we've committed who is part of our racial equity work is to develop a formal, updated park naming strategy that considers what are now leading practices that perhaps park names are not in perpetuity. Maybe they're revisited after a certain amount of time. Some agencies. New York City, for example, is revisiting park names every fifty years to ensure that they continue to align with community values. So Ali Rhodes she/her: updating. That is, is um on our wish list and not on our work plan. It's something we hope to have time for. One of the things you'll hear about is we are very careful, as we talk about the upcoming Violet Park to development, to rever, refer to Violet Park as it's working title. That's been a working title because it's on Violet Street. It's not intentionally or thoughtfully named, and we really look forward to a community conversation about Ali Rhodes she/her: That's when you'll see the findings from that report right? Where of our parks that are named for people? They're they're not telling the whole community story. They don't celebrate very many women. They don't celebrate very many people come of color. It's overwhelmingly white male founders of boulder right when when we were settled by um white settlers in the late

[158:16] Ali Rhodes she/her: early twentieth century. So, Mary, um, Ali Rhodes she/her: I I say that to just be responsive to you, and that it is on our minds, and it's not something we have capacity for what we committed to is to, Ali Rhodes she/her: as it relates, to addressing racial equity to lean in on the work that we do to make our programs equitable. The naming strategy is something we want to get to. It's just not primary, but you'll hear about it again just when we talk about Violet Park working title Great anyone else. Before I make my update and adjourn great. I just wanted to put a shout out for the play. Boulder Foundation uh Colorado gives Day is always like the first Tuesday of December,

[159:06] and so if you are thinking about making a donation. If you could just think about potentially giving back to our um our arm, our fundraising arm of our department here. Uh, just consider it. I know they would appreciate it very much, because a lot of the funds go to help the low income kids with the playpass program. Um, and with that Um! It is eight, forty, and if there's nobody else we can adjourn the meeting. That sound Good. Okay, great. We'll see you all. Thank you, Bye, bye, thanks. Good night.