July 16, 2024 — Human Relations Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:00] JH: Yeah, what did I do that. Here we go. Okay. good evening, and welcome to the. Zee. Meeting, the meeting. For the. Human, or like. Commission of the City of Boulder. Indonesia, Esther reign on the Zoom border. Tonight we have an interpretation service, and so. So. I am. Hope. You're seeing. And. Screen some instructions on. Picking. The lack. Language. Of your choice, to. Listen, to listen. And into this meeting, and. Participate in this meeting. Please select your. Language by clicking on. The interpretation, globe icon.

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[5:01] we have some community members who are. I'm seeing in the audience for those that would like to. You. Speak in the public comment section. We will ask that you've raised your hand and we'll call on. New. And unmute you when we get to. That. Section. Thank you, Christian. JHI think we're. Ready to go. And I have this slide. So. Let me know if. You want me. To put those up. So thank you. Good evening, everybody. It's good to see everyone. It seems. That's like I still haven't met Erin and bear. That's correct. So hopefully, you know. We can get. Get together soon, and then do something. So tonight is July 16, th and. Welcome to the

[6:02] July Hsc. Meeting. So. So. I'm just gonna. Straight with the meeting. It's. 6, 18 Pm. So the call to order. Welcome to the Hsc. Meeting. These meetings. Is, live and recorded, my. My name is. Jean! You. There, but I go. By JH. And I'm the chair. The Commission. So now it's time to check to see if we. Of mourners. 3 members. I see Carlos, me and. Aaron. I can't see. The panel of the screen guys, is that okay? Like. Christian, if you can help me. I believe we have feature as well. Okay. Yes. speaker is driving, but will come on. Camera. Shortly. Okay. Today is July 16. It is 6, 19 pm.

[7:00] so we officially start the meeting. Where is it today? We have myself? JH. If so. But he! Everybody else can say their name. Please. Aaron Gabriel Nyer. Picker Yacob. Hello! Bundle this. Christian Phillips, City of Boulder housing and human services. And Elizabeth Crow, City of Boulder. Housing and human services it think. Here. So thank you for everyone. Thank you to everyone for being here, so I will pass on the word to the city staff for them to go over the walls, which I think Christian already. Went to. And logistic to of this recorded meeting.

[8:04] So thank you. And it's time to approve. The last meeting minutes in our packet we had I see question I can't see. Can you pull us? Help me with that, Elizabeth? Please. What is it that you'd like the dates of the the date of the minute. Nuts. Limited to the date. Did you want them? Screen shared, or just. Just save gotcha. Yeah, it's. The minutes from. April, April. It's been. Wow! It's been a while. Yup. Yeah. The meeting from April. To. 2024. So it's time to ask commissioners, do you have any. Subject. Choose. Suggest. Need adjustment on the

[9:01] but if not, No. We can move on to make a motion to approve. The July 16, Meeting minutes. Who would like to take a motion. Yeah, so moved. We will second the motion. Second. Speaker, make it fast all in favors. Say, Hi. can you guys see me? I can't see myself. Is that a thing. I don't know how to do that, but. Yeah, I see you. Okay, cool. Thank you. We got it. To, we. You can see and hear you. Okay. Thank you. So moving on to approving our previous meetings meeting. Dings. Mean it. Meeting, minutes.

[10:00] Every meeting our secretary takes notes, those notes. So it's our call minutes. Every month. Minutes are. Including, in. Packet. Review them and approve them the following month, and that is always part of the. Agenda. any adjustment. Met to the minutes. HI think the 1st question you asked was about the I got him back. In, the. Notes, but I think I've. Fixed it. The minutes were just. Pass, but the agenda. And were there any adjustments to. The agenda. The jay. Yeah. Sorry to the agenda. I'm. I'm sorry. Yeah. Oh, you're fine. and this is, I'll just put up this slide. This is the brief. Slide version of the. Janet. Folks need to look again. Here.

[11:00] You did correct that, Elizabeth, you said, Okay. You know, you know Groton and Ninguna hostel. I can't. Everybody good. For everybody! I couldn't hear what Carl say. Carl said something, and I. Oh, you might need to pick the English in terms. Perpetu. Language under the interpretation. Okay. Jha. Think when you rejoined again, you might need to. Reselect that, and then you can hear interpreters. Okay, cool. Alright. Can I have a motion to approve the agenda? Is that correct? Elizabeth, yeah. Yes. And a motion to second. I motion to approve the agenda for today's meeting. July 16.th

[12:03] 2024, right, this. I second. Movement, motion. All in favor. Say, Hi! I say, Hi! So. Alright! Brings up. Bring. Brings us up to the item to item 4, which is community participation for community participation. Members of the public join. Our need. And contribute. Today they can do do it. Lie. Each participant has 3 min to share and staff has time to respond. Community members can sign up in advance Christian. Has a. Anyone sign up to. Speak. So I think tonight we did not have a sign in sheet. I think. We have looks like 3 attendees that have tuned in. If. They are.

[13:00] Are interested. In sharing for public comment. We should have them raise their hand, and I can unmute them. And get. Timer! On the screen for public comment. Do you have anyone that raised their hand now. Looks like we have one person. Send. And Elizabeth, if you can. Stop sharing you. Your screen so I can get in there. Deb. We have one person, mark fear, and I am good. Point. To. Alright. I'm assuming people can hear me. We can hear you give me one second mark. Good to see you. Let me share my screen real quick, so I can get our timer.

[14:00] Andy bye. Alright, mark! The floor is yours. Or is. Okay, if I can find it. Hi, folks, I've spoken in front of this. August. Body. Of 4. Or but it. Is, usually. Been on affordable housing issues or tenant rights. So issues. Something I do hope to. Address. In more detail at some other point. Point. But today. Hey? I'm not gonna address that. In, so. Said what I wanted to talk about, and I don't think I've. Asked this before. For a. This group. But I have been involved with. Issues. Around the mid east. And specific. Typically does. Israel! And I have been very frustrated by the level of well, ultimately conflict and disengagement.

[15:03] Darn it. And. If you. Feels to me like. The. And Relations Committee. Is a good. Place. to. Help create a community. Dialogue. On this issue, or. Maybe not as the primary sponsor, but a partner in this, which is what I've. Been trying to do. I've been trying to find partners willing to create a community dialogue. We can have civil. Discussion on very emotional issues. Use That would be heavily moderated and mediated. With the. Hopes of finding common ground both on this issue of what's happening right now. And further in the future. The hr. See, I. Has done these types of. Community dialogues in the past.

[16:02] and while I know you all have quite a bit. On your plate. More than enough. I would ask you. To consider. Consider again, being a partner, a Co partner. In Perhaps helping create this community space for a dial. So, and I've spoken with a couple of you. Already about this. But Just making a more. Official request, now. And I'll end it. There! Thanks. Alright. Thank you, Mark.

[17:02] Right. Whoa! You can. Just quick point of process. Do do we, as commissioners respond here or. Does that do not respond to. You can respond, yeah. Yes, absolutely. And I'm happy to Answer any questions. Questions. from. Commissioner. As well. I'm just on the topic. If you. You have them. Cool. Yeah. I'll I'll just say that I was planning to mention this, and. The Commissioner and my Commissioner update. I've also had some conversations with Mark. I saw that we have on our staff update. It's chronic nuisance or. I wasn't sure if they were related. I I know I've heard this related to nuisance within City Council meetings and city council meetings have been continually disrupted by this and. I've. Heard, many people. Perspective, that I also.

[18:00] Hold that like. It seems like there's a discussion that wants to happen in our community, and. There's Yeah, some tension. And I do think. I do think it could be what. Wise, for. Us, to. Take some kind of stand on how we move forward and. Terms of communication. Hitting in a way. Can can address that tension. So I'll just say that. Can share briefly. That the. At, the. Chronic nuisance ordinance that's mentioned later. Is, a complete. Different. Topic. Yeah, not not really. To this one. Yeah, I I remember like seeing that. And I was like, Oh, that's the thing. And I looked up. And like, actually, that's probably something else. So. Thanks for clarifying that. Of course. So mark thank you for. Doc. Talking to us tonight. But I just wanna make sure I'm careful of what I'm gonna say. So before I say anything, I wanna ask Elizabeth questions, Elizabeth.

[19:05] To make sure. You know, Mark. Is bringing a subject, that. I you know I. Do you understand? It's from Outside the city. and the Hr. See, it's a I'm not gonna. Say it's like his the audiences for the perimeter of boulder. Do you think that's something. We can. Talk about? Or is that something. We need to You know. Make sure. It's you know, to. Bring inside the Hrc. Because I know it's you know, it's an international issue right now. Wow! And And it's a good thing to to talk about, but. Make sure it's part of like I think, that we can do. As well. It's a good question. What I would just is that if hrc, well, what I. Would suggest is. Number one. That we. if 80. Hrc. Members are interested. Than just talking. It. We can move that to later in the agenda there's a discussion.

[20:02] Discussion on items. There's a different part of the agenda that would probably. Be the place to have this conversation. And then. Would be. Happy to provide a little bit more, you know, more input generally. If you are interested, if. Members are interested. you could. Reach out. You. Let's see. Manager and possibly city council, member. And ask. If they are. if they would want the. Hrc. To step into this role kind of here. Hearing. This This suggestion or request. Us, from community. Members. Because city council has. It's not has decided. Not to take up. The ceasefire resolution. In, the. Has come up, over and over. I think it would just. Be a good gesture. To reach out to those other staff members, city staff members and and see what their thoughts are. And then. From there. If the answer is Yes, it would be for us to work together.

[21:04] 80. Trc. Members and city staff to to figure out what that what that might look like. Like, but I think. 1st step would be simply to reach back, out. To other. Cities, to. Staff member not here. And ask them about that. If you all want to talk about it, I think we would put that. Manager. To aid. And fix, which is that discussion. And information. Items. Okay, cool. I'm. I, I, if. There's no. Of the. This? Does this? Part, I'd move to add that to the agenda. Add to the agenda point. To have a little bit of discussion. From this. Later in the meeting. I agree. I agree, too. Thank you. cool We'll add that there.

[22:02] Alright, thank you, guys. And thank you. Mark again. You know, I think I'm glad that we added there and put it there, so we can talk. Come on in a minute. Now we. Give me! Second. Come on. time opens. So that's 5. Now, Elizabeth, is that correct? If I may ask. And I'm just. Making this one change, adding this discussion item to the slide. And then I can. Put the slides back up. Again, and I believe Taylor Ryman is up. Next for the 1st action item on minimum. Okay. Cool. Just a minute. There, too.

[23:14] And while Elizabeth is getting that going, I'll introduce myself. Okay, Hi, everyone, Taylor. I am in. I use she her pronouns with the city of Boulder and the climate Initiatives department. Last time we talked was. I think April. if memory serves. Me, and we were in. And the. Middle of our engagement window during that time. So it's. Great, to. Be. Back with the Hrc. And to tell you a little bit about how our engagement ended up going. We have currently a draft report and a couple draft reports. And.

[24:00] Orient us us all back into the issue. The unique approach that this engagement effort took. I will go through the report. Very high, level. Because of the volume. Of information. It's hard to get into. Too many details, but I will be available. At the end for questions. Could we go on to the next slide? Questions for the Commissioner. And. And I believe you got the report and your packet. Of the. Materials, so hopefully. Folks have taken. And a look at that. But our 2 questions for tonight are, Do you feel like. Reports, accurate. Reflect. The. Perspectives you are hearing in the community about the potential impacts of increasing the minimum wage. And do you have suggestions. To city staff, about. How to make this information easy, to read or understand. Next.

[25:00] Slide. I like to keep this like. In the presentation, because I want to acknowledge the tremendous support. We have. Gotten from our municipal. Simple. Partners who are part of this effort, but also community organizations who have representatives on. And the teams. That have been. And facility. This work and these deliverables, since. September. Of last year, the 5 cities that you see on the slide, the their Logos are. The city of. Boulder, the city of Lafayette, Louisville. Erie, and Longmont. The 5 of us. Us, have. Been working together since September to complete an economic analysis, that is, that is being done by. A. Consultant now, and those those materials are also near nearly ready as well as doing staff led engagement.

[26:01] Efforts. Around minimum wage. The Council meeting right now is scheduled for August twenty-twond in Boulder, and the 4. Other cities. Have different meetings scheduled for us to come and present. The information that we've. Found over the course. Of, but. Last 10 months. and get Council's direction on whether or. Or not. We would like to move forward with drafting an. Ordinance next slide. As a reminder. Right now, these, this is where minimum wages fall. In Colorado. The gray. In the back. That, you see, is supposed to represent our state. 8. Colorado. Did us a favor. But. I being. A very easy rectangle. So it. Was easy to represent, but.

[27:00] For most of Colorado. The. Minimum wage is at 1,442. Except for in those communities that have. Raised the minimum. Mum, we. Age, of. But. Of this. State floor, which was recently allowed by. Like. Legislation passed in 2,019. So those that have done that include Denver and Edgewater. Those are in the bottom there in the orange, and then in the yellowish color, is unincorporated. Boulder County. That raise. Theirs. Starting this year. They have. An escalation of a few. Years, to. It, reach. Is $25. And 20. 30, and then the blue. Outlined cities with the magnifying glass, representing. The 5 cities that are working together. Study this issue and determine if we should follow. Some of our Metro partners and. Changing the minimum. Wage next slide.

[28:03] As a reminder. As always. Is, the. The engagement spectrum is a very important piece of how we build and carry out engagement efforts. This community engagement effort fell on. The, in. Involve, level. Of the spect. Drum. which include. Woods. Community voices. Is deeper in. Decision making process. Makes, a. Commitment to reporting back on those. That participate. And sharing with them how we use their. Feedback. The involved level. Of the spect. Spectrum is, how all 5. Cities. Carried out their engagement. There were slightly different strategies, and how that was implemented. But in general we all. Followed, Broad model where we held focus group sessions with community members and those in the business community. And then. We had a question. Online that we all share. And.

[29:00] Folks across the the Metro. Region completed next slide. Most of the questions in the questionnaire were close. End, question. How much do you make. Do you think we should. Change, minimum wage things like that. There were. 3! Oh! Open ended questions both in the questionnaire and in the focus group focus groups that remained true for everyone. And that is what do you think the positive impact. Acts, of. Of this decision would be, what do you think the negative impacts could be? And is there anything else. Else. These 3 questions. And to. Between in questionnaires and focus groups, we received a tremendous volume of comments that. Sifted through. Through. And while this wasn't designed to be an ultra assignment. Antific. Engage. And approach. We did use a little bit of methodology

[30:00] that. Involved us. Combing the comments, identify. 25. Unique topic areas that bubbled up. Up, a. Across all comments. And so. And then going through and coding. How often those comments were raised next slide. And get. Engagement regionally. So this is a broad stroke of the pen on. Oh, I shouldn't use those phrases I will speak very generally about. In. Engagement regionally. The these, the themes that come up in this next section section are themes that. But. Spanned across all engagement. In 5 cities. There are more unique city reports. There's 1 for Boulder, one for Longmont, one for Lewisville, etc, etc. That staff. Made specifically to speak to we were able to comb out the particular.

[31:00] Is a pen. That engaged from Lewisville, Lafayette. And so when we put all of those comments together, Staff analyzed. So specific. The feedback from people who self identified as a community member in their city. And they wrote a more unique city report. But we then sort of. Of up. Analyze those and created more of a a Meta report. Church. To share out on. The perspectives. So so these. some of this will lack an amount. Of d, 2. That you do see in the city reports is is what I'm the takeaway from that. Next slide. Engagement by the numbers across. All 5. Of ours. Cities, we. Worked independently. In some cases long. Man, who. Hosted several sessions. City of both. Or host. Several sessions. And then we also did some joint. Point. Sessions together, and in total we had 14. Focus group session. The questionnaire received 993.

[32:01] Responses. I was really. Bombed. Didn't reach 1,000. I was. Really hoping it would But it didn't. And of those 932 submit. Responses. Than English, and 61. Submitted responses into. Spanish Import. And to note that. There are plenty of folks. Who speak English and Spanish, one. Or the other alone, or both. Of. And it It varied in which language folks were comfortable. Filling things out. In That's true. To say. The 61 submitted in Spanish is not. Necessarily a reflection of that is. The art. Spanish speaking community because there was a lot of folks. Who maybe had specific. Spanish as a 1st link. Which that chose to complete the survey. In English. Next slide. There are 4 categories in the regional report, and they have titles on each of them. And it's it's designed to sort of.

[33:06] Represent a spectrum of opinion. In. and how we categorise the. First.st One was purpose of middle. Wage. And the comments that we organized under under these themes were improving human. Dignity and sense of community. Unity. A lot of that speaks to. People's. Ability to meet their base. Basic. Needs to spend more time with family and focus on being able to be resources. First.st With time and other things. To, a. Us on their health. And becoming less reliant. And I. And safety net services provided by. Public. And nonprofit partners. And then the on the other side of this is minimum wage versus living wage. Those. Saying, Well, minimum wage is intense. To be for folks who do not. Have a lot. Of. Experience. And it's supposed to be a starter job where you build skills.

[34:01] And you get. Training to then move into higher paying wages. And, in fact, if we do raise the minimum wage, it may. Result in over paying people who should. Not rely on. The minimum wage. Because that's. Not what. But still. Designed to to. To be so. That's kind of. The spectrum of a pay. And that's represented. Here, on! Purpose of minimum wage. Slide. You got it, Elizabeth Building. The second one is building an attractive community. For both workers. And business. Is, and. And they're organized in factors that attract and factors that repel. Factors that. Tracked, meaning what? But what is the. All. And the. Pull. Is. Higher wages can result in more employee satisfaction. Reduced employees. Absenteeism, Higher Productivity. Greater workforce participation. Perhaps

[35:01] folks want to see minimum wage. And that's attractive to them. Factors that repel sort of fall on more of the business side of things. Businesses and. Adjusting to an increased minimum wage, could. Force them to. Close or move to a city that doesn't have a higher minimum wage. Larger corporations can absorb some of these changes, whereas our small. Of it is. In this community might struggle a little bit. But so. Talk about factors that repel. Are we pushing out small businesses by doing this? The wage compression is is a very big. Issue that came up. In engagement, because, while there are a certain number of. People that may be. Impacted by an increase. East, minimum wage. Folks who maybe make close to minimum wage just a little bit above it. Or is. Employers might have to make a series of additional. Adjustments to. Wages. In. A lot of different title types. so that

[36:00] folks are incentivized to go. So far. Or those. Us. Higher, paying positions, perhaps with more. Responsive. Abilities and. And things like that. Other ways, that. Oh! Ways that employers could adjust is just reducing the number of hours that. Employees, work. Terminating jobs, perhaps investing more in in capital and automating. Ing. Certain kinds of labour, so. We're that's more on the factors that repel. Things? How? How does it take. Taking away jobs. Like slide regional economic impacts. This is on spending and inflation. A lot of folks talked about how higher. Ages could lead to. To greater. Disposable income. Come, we. Would then be spent, and help. Stimulate our economy. Thanks. The other side of that. Of course. In, the. Business is adjusting to increase labor costs made. Need to raise the price. Of their goods, and that would put a squeeze.

[37:00] Is. On folks who are paying for those goods. next slide. And then there's the the last one is appropriateness of a change to the local minimum wage. There was a difference of opinion on the role of local government. Some folks. Came out. Strong on. This is really the job of. Of the. Federal Government and the State Government. To set. The wage floor. There are. Market forces that help drive, how businesses respond and. And and. Businesses respond. To help. To find the minimum wage. And. And then there were some on the other side of that. That, said local. This is an opportunity. Opportunity for local governments to come out strong and really advocate for. Folks in the community by increasing them. Minimum wage the other side of appropriateness. Of a. Change is that. But well, this is as. Much as we're struggling with affordability. And. All of these things are very.

[38:01] Through. There are a lot. Of other policies. Strategies that we could be looking at. And minimum wage is just not not the appropriate solution for addressing affordability. Next slide. this slide talks about sector specific impact. So in the in the engagement feedback, there were. A few. Of. Trees. That really bubbled to the top common. That we. Heard, either frequently or not frequently, but just because they weren't said frequently. Gently. Doesn't mean that if they were true they wouldn't have a great impact on the the. Industry, that it spoke. 2, the 3 that are listed here are restaurants. Childcare. Providers and agriculture. There's a lot of nuance. Is in each. Of these, and and how they would respond to a higher. A mum. I can certainly answer questions around that. But. We can move on to the next slide.

[39:00] And get. Into. I believe, the boulder specific. Specific report. Engagement in Boulder. Thank you. So by the numbers. So what we just talked about was the regional. Report. That's all. 5. Cities, and that that was a very generalized description. Of the kinds of comments that we heard in all 5 engagement by the numbers in boulder. So among that about a thousand. And question. Responses, and among the. Folks who participate. Participated in. Focus groups. 98 were from Boulder 390 of questionnaire responses identified. Boulder, community. Members. And this is where things got. A little bit different is because in. Boulder. We were noticing that there were. We weren't reaching as many people in the community. As we had hoped. To. We weren't having necessarily the numbers or the kinds of business representation that we were hoping to see at some point.

[40:05] The focus group. So we. Implemented additional strategies that went well above and beyond the engagement. Model, agreed to. By the 5. I have city. And and the other 4 cities also did some additional strategy work on on their side. But for. Boulder. It was 4 drop in visits to the. Of food. Bank. 8 h in total, where we we're in the waiting room, and. Talking, to. Program. Participants. As as they were waiting for their appointments, just educating folks about the issue and helping them fill. The question. In a. With, I. Pads. We also went around on foot and did a business. This canvas. Effort. We walked in. To and spoke to people in 252 stores or business businesses in general across the city, and specifically not in the downtown areas because the downtown business community is really who we saw well represented.

[41:04] Presented in focus groups. So we were looking to reach parts of the community that may. Maybe weren't. In that downtown core that maybe hadn't heard. Believe it or not. Not. Not everybody. Follows us. On Facebook, the city of Boulder and. And and that's crazy. But just really trying to get the word out to folks that these there are opportunities for them to. Leave, their. Voice. We can move on to the next slide. Like, I said, oh. actually, so this sorry! When I was speaking about methodology earlier. Er. And the topic areas identified. Those. Being categorized into key themes and unique themes. That was actually the boulder report apologies for that. The Meta report took a a slightly different approach where we looked across all 5.

[42:00] Of the reports like. The one I'm doing here, and put those into the regional report. So sorry apologies for that. Feel free to ask me questions. And. at the end. This is where we did our coding of the 25 topic areas and key themes and unique themes were identified. Side next slide. In the key themes arena and we also had category. Where is that? Based on community members and employers. The reason for doing so is that our gate there our engagement was really set up for that. We. Design! Find spaces and advertise. Is. Certain focus groups. Oops! For community members and certain focus groups for business owners. Folks were welcome to come to either of them. But we recognize that there might be different. Rules, of. Comfort with engaging if you are a community member sitting among a lot of business owners and vice versa. So we really designed engagement events, to try to meet people where they are, try to create environments where.

[43:11] We could. Be vulnerable and disagree, but that still be in an agreeable manner. And so that's why the reporting in in the Boulder report. Is, but. Community members and employers. So the key themes listed by community members. Number. Are increasing ability to meet basic needs, improve quality of life, economic growth. Making. Boulder, a more attractive. Place to live, work in. Play and concern about inflation. Shen. And the rising cost of goods and services for employers. It was increased pressure on small and local businesses, businesses forced to perhaps. Increase, pro. This is. Is. Reducing employee hours benefit. It's an opportunity. Opportunities and wage inequity and compression, and changing the character. Folder. Well we notice

[44:00] any. This demonstration of key and. Unique theme. And the regional report that I said last time. I. It's a lot of kind of the same stuff. Ask. It's just organized in a slightly different way. And and that's done intentionally, because there are a lot of different ways. That you could. Connect certain comments to to each other, and we wanted to present a couple of different ways of digesting that information, to help us think through a. Plex. Problem next slide. Unique themes on the community member side talked about reducing. The wealth. Gap. If it's Cliff. Where, if you pay folks. A. More it might push them. Out of their. Eligibility. Need to receive public. Benefits. possibly better environmental outcomes. If people are making more and don't have. To commute. So far to make a decent living living that might result in better environmental outcomes, greater societal benefits.

[45:04] providing more union leverage. enabling. Students, to. Stay in boulder and childcare expenses. and then on the employer side of things. They talked. A lot about commercial. Leasing, Cost. So. Explore. Of the vulnerable. And then here are some of those industry. Specific comments, very similar to the regional report spoke about restaurants. nonprofit service, providers, agriculture and child care, providers. Next slide. So that wraps up. Up. The report and feel free to give me feedback on this 1st off. It's the 1st time I'm presenting on it, and I toyed in my head with which one makes sense to start with. I I decided to go with regional 1st and then boulder. I think maybe it would be helpful. Also to go boulder 1st and then regional.

[46:01] I think there are additional Dd. And the boulder report that that could help build on. But thank you for your time. And Taylor, your. Does, a. Right now is to get some input from Hrc members on these questions, and. Are all. So I'm trying to remember about our conversation. Last week. To give folks a time to respond. After the meeting for a certain period. Right. Pardon me if you already said that. I just want to capture. From the note. Totally. Yeah. If folks have feedback or questions. I'm here to take them. Out! Talk to Elizabeth. And by tomorrow end of day. If. There's anything that else that comes. Comes up. We are currently finalizing this deliverable and putting some design elements on it. So it would be helpful to. Make sure the content is.

[47:00] Is all locked down, so. So, if. If anything comes up. Up in your between. Now and. And tomorrow. Pro, add. Live. We'll we'll take re written feedback. Back as well. I'll just say yes. Thanks for putting. Together. It feels if. Feels very like. Comprehend. I feel like I was able to get a. A good picture of. What's happened. And yeah. I appreciate. The New. Months in the positive. And the negatives, and I think to answer one of your questions. Questions, yet. Those are a lot of. A lot of. The perspectives that I'm hearing around the benefits and around people needing this and around. How. It can amplify. For the economy, and also. Especially around. The way it's gonna challenge. Small businesses. That's that's the perspective. Most present, but some of those other ones make a lot of sense. And I've heard. Similar perspective. So, yeah, thanks for putting this together. Thank you.

[48:05] Your your timebying Korea Istanbul, Plato he was, Stather in a windows corner stadium. He is. Which I thought to assist us. Deploy commentarios. you croque car present there is the is that assuming a key I was agent in their own slas. Last perspective was K. A favourite contravari, wrote. Hello, Kester estuvi viensta complex gracias. I'll also kind of echo. What Aaron. And Carlos. Said, I totally agree. It was such a great presentation, very engaging and very comprehensive. I think there's a portion I don't I don't remember exactly how you worded it. But you were.

[49:00] Saying something about opponents, of raising the minimum wage. said there might be other solutions to providing economical support to You know, people in these. Up. Positions. I think it would be helpful to kind of know what those other. Solutions are. Or what you know, what examples. Opponents are suggesting, because nothing would cross my mind but. But. There are some concerns like valid concerns. With raising the minimum. So it would kind of be nice to kind of brainstorm some solutions, or, you know, keep it in the back of everything. Everyone's mind. Yeah. And I, I can respond a little bit to that. Obviously, there's housing, which is one of the the biggest costs that. Folks are. Struggling with right, and we are doing a lot in that arena to try to create more housing affordability. There's also. Else. Care

[50:00] challenges. I heard from a lot of business owners like Gosh, I would love to raise minimum wage, but healthcare is super expensive. And so so for those that provide healthcare, also raising. Raising the. Wage was something. That. Seemed pretty. Pretty. Impossible. And there was the Faa Family Act that was passed at the State level that has been putting a squeeze on employers. But the how I understand it is addressing affordability. There are kind of like. 2 up. And so. You. Lower the price of. Stuff that we've. Buy, or you raise. How much people make. I I think that. What brought this conversation. About was that we are doing so. Much. Around transportation and housing and. Healthcare's. Kind of out of our hands, because it's more of a higher government thing. But we're doing a lot in a lot of places. And we hadn't yet.

[51:00] Very. Explored minimum wage. So that's what we're doing here now. Elizabeth is also doing a lot around the universal basic income pilot, which I think is super cool. Pinks, but. But update. I'm a I have a question. Can you hear me? I have a question so. Volume. I see. I read the the report a little bit, and then kind of. Understand certain part. Automate. And certainly I don't. So how do you know either increasing the minimum range or no action on the minimum range? Each. Affecting, relative. Equity on like equity of our like black, indigenous, and older people color. It might be. Called the byproduct. Residents.

[52:00] How is that, you know? Do you have any idea on that. It's not something that I think the engagement report speaks to very much, but I have. Looked at. The Economic Analysis report. And it does talk about. What. What does? What are the Democrats? Topics. People making minimum wage right now, and a lot of the folks. that make minimum wage. Right now in Boulder County are people of color, and people who do not have high school, or you know much more than high school. education attainment. So it talks about what that community looks like, and. And the fact that it is just. Proportionate, based on just the demographics of our our city. So the someone. And could. We can suppose that. A. Change in minimum wage. Age. Would help, address. Racial wealth disparities.

[53:04] Is that what your your question is? It has more numbers that I. I don. Have on the top of my head. But the economic analysis. Says so. Side of this work does address the the question. That you just asked. Well, I didn't find much on it. That's why I asked you about. Question. I've been able to see if you have any additional. Information! Does that make sense. Yeah, I I don't want to speak too much to the economic analysis, just because it's not final. Ized, yet. And I don't want. Get get to. Far ahead of that deliverable. But the the question is, is a fair one to to. Ask. Thank you this morning.

[54:03] Just lifting up the second question that Taylor posed. Some of you. To that but any other. Suggestion. Options, for how the information, either in the presentation or the report which was, and. The packet. Could be. Better shared with community. Members. Yeah, I think I would just kind of plus one. What I. Speaker. Start saying as well of the parts where it's like there's critiques of why, it wouldn't work. And. Would be really interesting to hear. If there is discussions or proposals. About like what makes them workable. Then it's like. Okay. It's. Challenging for healthcare and. Agriculture. Sure. And child, child care agriculture if it's like. In the report. That's kind of like. Reasons, to. Not do it, and it would be really. Nice to have more perspectives of like. What are? Other. Ways. Mitigating these.

[55:00] Negative impacts without just tossing. The, in. Entire thing out. And you're talking specifically on like the industry the industry call outs. Yeah, I mean, I think the direct industry call out. And then the effect it has on small business. Those are 2. The ones that are most present. Me that would be like the big. Just reasons. Would vote no on this, and so I think it would be very useful to give another. Alternative. Rather than vote. No. So here's other things that can be done to mitigate those negatives. That made sense. Yeah. Yes, I'm just taking notes.

[56:00] And it does sound like if JH. If we're inferring from your Your question. That. Folks will. Would be, and will be interested in seeing that economic analysis. Report when it's when. Final that Taylor was referring. To, as well. Sure. I agree with that. I I can. Yeah. I don't know about so I hesitate on presenting on that report myself, because. Very tech. Technical and the we're working with the consultant to figure out how to bring that to council, but certainly can keep Hrc. Informed, for when those. Those opportunities. User Available. Bubble.

[57:03] Last question I have, Taylor is, are you looking for feedback right away? Or if we have a feedback, can we get back to you later? Yeah. Sure figured it's a long report, and I tried to do it, and. 15. Minutes But if you would like to spend more. Digesting the presentation and reading the report tomorrow at 5 Pm. Is when I was hoping to get any final. Feedback. Back to send it along to the team. Okay. right? This slow talk and stuff is like, I. I like the challenge. It's it's good for Taylor. You did. Great, I think. Elena and Myra. You can confirm.

[58:03] Thank you, Taylor. Alright! Thanks, guys, for having me have a great rest of your night. Satisfactor. Excellent. Nice. Okay, so we do have one more agenda item under the action items. James. Each, and then. Which is the debrief on how for commissioners that went to. Some of the. June events, I mean. Immigrant heritage. A man. June. Team, pride, events, etc. So. Wanted to hear back. Back from folks. Who who might have participated. Participated in those.

[59:12] I was at the boulder boulder pride fest, and I thought it was a really really beautiful event. And there was a lot of great participation by the city seemed like. To really thread. And community space. And just like. Very, very. Connected. So yeah, it was. It was neat, nice. Must be in there. Robert, that you maybe school poker cannot. I mean, when I went to Ms. Ms kipaso. okay, not as Kosaski case, the

[60:02] personalities. inoppy, Hazistira, and Inguna estos aventos. for example, the speed of the school. Pedro! Yeah. Nymphs. To. Similarly, I was. Unable to attend anything. This past month. but looking towards. To other ones coming up. I can share just from a staff perspective that the Human Relations Fund was able. To support.

[61:00] Ports. With grants to. Local. Community organizations for all 3 of those kinds of. Events, I. Immigrant heritage month. Juneteenth. And pride. The sea. We also partnered with local agencies black led agencies. That held the Juneteenth flight. Grazing, that. Was that. On June 14, th Friday afternoon. Afternoon. We were. Inside. Again for rain or the chance of rain, I think, for, like the second or 3.rd Year in a row. But it was a really great event. And we had music, food, and. Some really beautiful. Beautiful and a pretty. Presentations and testimonies. From local community members as well. We do have our human relations fund. I actually. Could save. Really briefly, because. Didn't include it in our staff update slot.

[62:00] But the human relation. Fund continues to also have. Grants going out beyond those. Very specific events, this. Spring. And. And There's. Some that there. Working to To make decisions on. The next couple of months. And so we'll update your work plans. But. And she. If you recall ingrid. And started. Having a page there just with. All the kinds of community events that are relevant. To the Hrc's work. That you can go to. To at any time. whether you talk about it at a meeting or not, so we will. Continue to update. That spreadsheet for you to review. View.

[63:19] So I believe we're up to the next agenda items. Do you? The discussion. And informational items. I wasn't meeting. Sorry I. Try to talk, but. Wasn't me. Okay, thank you. Sorry. Yeah. Now we are at the part of the meeting where we have discussions and informal. Items. As a reminder. We do not need to vote, but I invite. Like commissioners to break. Discipline. Openly. So, you know, I think one of the thing is what Aaron. And he it's a subject of mark fever is that I hope I. Say his name properly. I think so.

[64:00] And Erin put it there. A. And I think if we have anything else we can put it out there. So there were 2 other things on that for that agenda. Item, one Was. A topic that Carlos. Wanted to talk about again regarding. And traffic. King. Training, Carlos, did you wanna speak to that? Or do you want me to address what we talked about. I'm sorry you are not so, Are you most accurate? Okay, I'm I'm I integrate proxima Pedro. See mosquitoes? I don't know whatever. Monsieur. Earlier. They were. Sure. So, Erin, this will be new information for you. But

[65:02] So. Several months ago, back in. And the spring. We ingrid. Had. Shared with the commissioners that. But. The city of Boulder was going to be having. Being, a. Presentation to our staff. On the topic of. Human trafficking in our community. And. What it looks like. Like. Kinds of people. are people who may be experiencing. been trafficking. What sort of. Myths. Or stereotypes, we might have. How to recognize it, and then what we can be aware of, so that we can. Have less of it in our community. And at. A time. Kind of earlier in the year. Staff were also in communication with. District attorney's office, and other agents. Agencies to. Potentially have.

[66:00] A community. Wide, to. Raining on. Human, to. Trafficking. However. We. Really all. Kind of got so. Far as scheduling. Those staff trainings and Weren't quite sure if there was more interest. Didn't in. Having larger community. Community-wide trainings. And so When we had our. kind of a. Agenda, setting committee. Meeting. Last month. For the hrs. See had shared that we would be able to come back. Back to you. With an up. Date as to whether or not. There were other sessions. Land. Currently there are not. however, if it is something. That the Hrc. Is interested. To the end. We could speak. With our city colleague. Need. Anna Sylvia Evan Daniel Curiel works in our office. Of equity and. Belonging. About potential. Julie. Making that training available. And to. Others in the key. Community. So just wanted to.

[67:01] Was it. Interested. Bringing this issue up again to. Commissioners to see if. Something that you would. Be. Be interested in. So I think out. can you guys hear me? Is that okay? I think, what? that like subject Elizabeth. About. I think it was right before you. Man 2 years ago. Ago. On my side. I I tried. To bring it out with clay. and I felt like there was so much dead end, and and. And you. Because one thing is there a new Office. Tennessee. That's

[68:01] especially for that right now or. Oh! How do you. The fault because I tried with. Play. And it was not. It was a possible to even start any. Process. So the city of Boulder does not have a. Specific. Kind of office or program on human trafficking. It is really handled more. The state. Or the county level, through the. Strict attorney's office when those. Issues come up. However. We did provide. Work. With an organization. Called. The laboratory to combat human trafficking. Who actually gave the. Training session. To city. Staff. We're into. Did. It was a. About, and. I'm. Maybe like a 90. Minutes, so like an hour and a half for me. Maybe a 2 h training from that staff with the laboratory to. Combat human trafficking?

[69:01] So if the Hrc. See, we're interested in in holding something like that again. We would our colleague, Anna Sylvia, would would help us get in touch with the woman who took. Of the true. Training. For the staff that that could be. One. Option. I think. We'd have to talk with them again, and. You'd probably want to. Here about what was involved. And kind of talk. About what some options are before making. Making a decision, but if you're interested we could certainly. Certainly we could certainly help that communication line. Well I am, but. Cause. I would love that because I have tried with clay, and I felt like, you know, it will be good to Stop. Over again and see where I got. Of that. if possible. add. I'd love to love to learn more. I feel like I. Don't have a clear enough picture to have a strong view on this, but. Love! To learn more.

[70:01] Me too. And Carlos, is that a yes, I didn't see your scrolling down. See, your reaction. Action. Claro Clarke is the. E. So one option. That you all could do is, if there are, is like one or. 2. Who Hrc. Members who would want to talk more. With Christian. And or myself, and. And our. Colleague, Anna Sylvia, just to hear a little bit more. More about the. The train. And talk about some of those options. I think that might be just an official. And way to move ahead, just thinking about what that would look like.

[71:05] I'm happy to support if that'd be helpful. Be a part of that. Thanks, Erin Whoopsie. alright, going back and forth from the notes document here. Okay. I actually don't. Know what cost was involved. Or if it's just a part of what the laboratory. To combat human trafficking. Does. And. Remember, the. Details. So So I think what I'm hearing. Is, that. Erin and Christian, and I'll figure out.

[72:01] Which of us will will be. Up and bring. Back, some more information. Information back. Back to the Commission. That sound good. I don't see you say that. Okay. So then there are 2 other topics. Topics, the next one. Was the Hrc. Annual. Retreat And. so as members. Recall in past years, and Erin again. Again. Would be. For you, and. Emily oftentimes in August. Guest. Commission. Owners will have a. Retreat. Might be held at the same. Same time as a kind of a normal meeting. Deng. But it's just different. Format so that you can talk more. More about Hear a little bit more, sometimes. Time is about. The. The human rights.

[73:00] Ordinance. And the the history of the Human Relations Committee. Or maybe focus on a particular. Topic, or how you. Want to communicate. In each other. Other. Last year. As commissioners might. Remember. We. Had her. Or Consultant, mia. Come in and and us. Let a session. And I. And. How Commissioners might. Want to use. Your time. In, the. Age with community member. When you might. Decide to kind of. Out outside of meetings. And meet with people and and talk with people that way. And there were several. Their ideas. Like that. So just wanted to share that. But it is. Already. In July. Right, which is. Hard to believe. And if you all want. And to. To have a rich. Reit. Similarly, maybe there would. Be, some. Maybe one or 2 of you. You kind of help

[74:00] work with staff to Determine what you might. Want to cover what you might want to talk. About. And how you. Want to conduct that meeting. Most of the. Time it would be an. In person, meeting, although again. It, it. Wouldn't have to be would be up for us to decide. Sounds great to me. Yeah. Yeah, and. So. My August is a little full, but. I'm hopeful that we could find. And some time that could work. I'd personally. Be very interested in. And in person meeting, I feel like, yeah, the. Ability to navigate and. Dive deep in discussion, feels like. Lot, greater. In person, Yeah, yes, it should. Should we just. Guess what we might like to. Discuss. At the retreat. I'd love to hear what other people's perspectives are, especially for. Who have been part of this a little longer than me. What might. Feel alive.

[75:07] From what I recall, I think the. Tree. We're gonna spend some time. I am told. I can. About? How. He drove. See is ran. and like any thoughts that. As the as. The members have on. What changes we'd like. Like to me. It's been working. Well, what happens? Working. Well, that's like a portion. And but. From what I recall. So that kind of leads me to asking a little. Elizabeth, if that time. Timeframe has. To be the case. So for, like. Aaron. He can be. In Hrc. For a little bit. So. That he has time to kind of reflect. And we all do to be able to do that retreat and. Don't know that. I'm open to any date. I don't believe there's anything in the Handbook. That says it has to be. In that month.

[76:00] I think you have some flexibility. A lot of. If that's something that you all want to talk about. Yeah, and I feel good with it. Being August. Guess as well like, you know. I think. Known as funded. Get tossing the deal. And you learn a lot that way. How long. Long as they were. Treat. Usually I don't know if you said maybe I didn't hear you say that, but. Others can feel free to. Jump in usually. It's around, you know. No. A couple of hours, and. With food. Maybe just a little. A bit. Of more informal. Tom. Together to chat. yeah, I mean some of the the recent times. Certainly. When Jh. Is. Been on, spam. And the Covid, yeah. Years, so that was a little bit different as well.

[77:00] Feel free. To jump in here. It's really. What you make it, you know. I don't think we would advise having. Mike. And all day retreat, or anything like that. You all are. Busy and And that could get could. Get a little much, but it's tended to be. Another evening. Eating just a little bit. But less formal. That's great! What other topics do we use. Discuss as well. Some kind of speaker. Seeing. Yeah, so. A couple. Of years ago. So I. That I recall And that was. I think the 1st that ingrid. And I. Were you know, actively kind of helping. Helping you all with. This retreat. Lucas Markley, who is formerly one of our cities. Attorneys. Who you. No longer were. For the city. He came and did that. Overview. You, a. The human rights, ordinance. And, you know, talked a little bit about you know what what is considered.

[78:01] You know, to be human rights issues. Per se in boulder. I think we might have touched it on that. Little bit. Year, as well. And then you. Yeah. Came in. And again, had that call. Conversation. About how Hrc. Member. Might be. We're interested. And engage. With community kind of outside of these. Sorts of meetings. And Christian, I know, has been thinking a little. Bit about this, just anticipating. Might be. Interested it. If you wanted Christian as well. Yeah, so what I can share being 2 months into this work myself. Health. So maybe just a little bit newer than Aaron. is what we have in terms. A. Program, data. such as, like, Hro. Claims human rights, ordinance. It's claims.

[79:00] The failure to pay wages, claims. Sort of like. Bird's eye view. This is what we're seeing. And. Any trends or anything like that. Anyone who had worked. With ingrid. Previously will know. She. Kept fancy. Fantastic. Records. And so. So she left me with a. Very nice package of sort of some historical data in the time that she. She was in the office. That I can share as well as I reached out to Roberto. Ramirez, who is our new. Who For lack of a better term, Lucas, in the city attorney's office. Who? Is more than willing to come. Share and talk with you all about. Sort of like. What a. Human. It's ordinance claim, or affiliate or pay wages. Claim sort of lifespan.

[80:01] Looks like. So you get an idea for. Some of the work. That's going on. On regarding to the ordinance. In particular. And where. You all Could play a role regarding some of these claims as well. Sounds like an interesting thing to to. Deeper into cool. Heartless and. Mute. Brethren. see, yes. Theatre. April K. See it in either. Algoness Prague. Does. You're there. The. Case. Okay, when hunt is okay, when is the way in Greece?

[81:05] Hey? Look for the You gotta stay. Yeah, come on, Boriana said. Like. Like one. That's the lesser. Papers! I was as. You don't think. Can you guys request us. Perosi Mozanto esotematica? You go to Caserdar Center. For me! It can be very, very. Is. For, and I know you all. Know, would know this. From your own work. People like ingrid. Christian, you know. So others. Staff. Members before them, just. So focused on doing the work that sometimes you like. Oh, yeah. kind of come up and and share big picture. What? What that looks. Like, and what the impact. Sorry, and. Observe. And. Questions and get your questions back. So Certainly. A

[82:01] Lot of work that have. Happens there. I know. Yeah. Sure Roberto would be happy to share. About that. If you're interested. So also it would be up to Commissioners. But if. You. Want. To have a retreat. Maybe there's 1 person. And. Or a couple. I think normally we might meet with. The chair and vice chair to talk about agendas like we do for other meetings. You, too, could. You know me. With. Christian, and I. To talk. About these. Options, just. Like we would normally. Unless someone else. Is also. Interested and You know, in just. Kind of thinking about. The. Retreat, agenda! It's up to you. Well. which would include when. And where, and all those sorts of things.

[83:03] But I think how would I put it there? I I think it will be good for. For and then we treat. Now, I think, to have. Of a. A little more understanding. I feel like. To about how well I remember. Like you said 2 years. Ago, when. We had somebody that come in. And then talk about it, and I feel like sometimes. Hello as the right. Now. The oldest member of the. The. I see there are. A lot. That I have to talks with people people do on my own research to find out. Shhh. And I think if we have a retreat, we. Somebody that can come real like we have. 2 years ago to help the newest. Members. That will definitely make a big difference on, on I will say, on the future and on the wall of the the new members to UN. You know they have a better idea.

[84:05] Even older members. I don't think Carlos ever had a. like. You know somebody presented like why, where you know when and how everything kind of fit in so. Okay. well, it sounds like, generally. Support for that. do you? JH. Do you think that. You, Carlos! Christian. And I would meet. Just like we would. Normally for a meeting agenda. Does that work. Yeah, that works for me. Yeah, that works. And I'm sorry. The last time. Way out. I, my phone died and I don't remember. Anything. And pro. It happens. I dexing Christian, I think. Frankly, it was like too late, so alright!

[85:01] It happens. yeah. So everybody good. We don't have to. Take a vote. But just after. Nation. Of that. Feature! So good. Okay, great. Okay. So then the 3rd item. For. Session was. Following up, on. Mark fears. Request. To. Have the Hrc. Consider Helping with some kind of dialogue. On the Gaza. Is he put. The Gaza. Israel. Topic. So I think our S. Staff guidance. Would be that if it is. Something. And feel free to talk about it. Here yourselves. That you do. Do that. You just. Interested in knowing about that. We. Really recommend Reaching out to the city manager. To get. Her her input on that we've shared before. I know ingrid, and I have that we

[86:04] regardless of the topic. Or the issue. It's. Just important, to. City staff members that anyone serving. And border. Commissioner, committee. Feel as though they're spent. In there. Time on something. That You know, city staff, we're we're. City, council, whatever. Is most appropriate in that circle. Circumstance. Really wants to hear. From you. That we want you to have a really good. Experience and feel like you're being, you know, useful. Full, and you know. Kind of have the directive. That that feels right. And so that would be a next step. App if you choose. If you talk. About it, and. And and want to take that and. There are then, you know, and even for things like a. Human trafficking, training. Whatever it is. Chris. Shouldn't I? And others. Staff. Can't, you know, necessarily. Have. A mission. Are safe. Hey? We want. Want you to. Go? Do you know.

[87:00] This, this, this this and this, so. That kind of direction. If you're interested. And exploring. A particular. Or topic or area. Would again and. Need to check. With this. City manager. Potential. The other. Before. Were. You know. Would be able to allocate staff time. Tennis. Help with something like that. So that's just that's just kind of. An overview, but feel free to discuss. Amongst yourselves what. what your you know. Thoughts were. About. Me. Interferes. Request. Thanks, Elizabeth, I can. I can share some thoughts here to start. I think, jade you made it. You made a good. Point earlier, which is that. You know, is this kind of dialogue. Like within. The purview of. City, and I think that's a really. Really good point and. My perspective is. Dialoguing. What's happening. In the Middle East is. Not necessarily something that this. City should be. To focus on, but. I think what the city. Should be focusing on. Is when there is tension within our.

[88:02] Community. And I think there is a great amount of tension in our community right now. That is. In relationship. To what's happening there. And I. And if. What I think would be useful for. Us to bring to legacy councils like, how do we create processes that enable us to find resolution. Solution. Our community when there's things that are tense. And like. Here's 1 example. Example of that is that. Right now. There are people who are hating other people. In the community, based on what their view. Is, and. A, p. Who are. Being affected. By the global. Conversation. Around that. A. And so finding a way to like create space for. How people are impacted by something not getting. 2 into the details of what's happening. Across the globe, but getting into the. Way that is impacting people's lived experience here. And the. Way that. Impact. Our community relationship here think that could be a very useful framing. That we might. Be able to bring the City Council. Like, is. There some way we can prior.

[89:00] Prioritize. Creating better dialogue processes and. Our community, to. Dress. Tensions. They arise such that there's not this constant like. Explosion of the 10. Into city council meetings in a way that's actually just. Erupting. Us taking care of city business. Well, Aaron, I'm really impressed, and that's the best way to put it, because I think you know, one way or another, it affects that community here. It was like, I think. Think it was last Saturday or last. Sunday. I don't remember exactly. I was I was in town, and there was a protest, and you can see there were 2 2 sides and you know. But I was like I was with my kids. And I kind of felt like, Okay, you know. So. I need to get out of here before I get hit, and I totally agree, and I didn't see it. Like and. Thank you for. Bringing that clarity. So I

[90:02] you know, if there's somebody that has a good. a better way, you know. To. Coming in. I think that is. Good way, to, to. To to frame it, and I don't see. Tennessee. because, you know. So, and. Does definitely affects our community here. By, you know which side you're. Self. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, thanks for that. I'm curious of. Sir Fee, if you have anything to add. On this. I don't have some anything to add, but I do agree. With you. I think. It is important for us to have those discussions, and present it to you. So they can. So and maybe we can think of like. Practical ways to do that. So that you know our intention is to make sure people can have dialogue that is able to. You like. You know how. Good. Dialogue, but we don't wanna call. Any conflict, either

[91:01] You know, giving, especially if it's gonna be a larger event, or setting or something. We just wanted to keep. Careful of what. Conflict that we might be involved in causing within the community even more. That's not to say. Say we should avoid talking about things that are. Call. totally. Did I? Look here, locate yourself in sandal in Kitemaos? Yeah. Up, or. The the sometime I'm Pocoti fishing. See. Commodity, hot ambience, the age idos lathos e. The name was Castar. No, Sothros say noon. punto Natro. Okay, there's no no problem with the Sydney. But again. And for a car. For them. Mussolida affected Canto, Como, Lacomonida entrances.

[92:01] Okay. But I may just into case sometime. Or that. I think that's so raised. That's great. So I'm curious, like Elizabeth. If there's a recommendation you might have for where to go. From this. It sounds like. There's some consensus here of like. there's an interest in us, maybe recommending to city council to facilitate some dialogue that stays focused on community impact and relationships. So it's like that thing. We would do is like. Put together like a some suggestion that city council make some motion. There. good question, I would say. We start 1st with city managers office. Who can give guidance on whether or not it. What is a question?

[93:00] That would go to city councils. Not they've already, I think, decided pretty clearly. They're not intending. To make, to. Take a position. Think it's. Self, which is. Is not. Necessarily. But you're all. About here. So I think a. 1st stop would be. Let's see. Manager. Office. Sometimes. Have. Happens just with communication. You know, outside of these meetings with. With. City staff, like. Myself. Could be that you, you know, one person which would volunteer to kind of write up a short letter or email. That would go to the same. Manager. For others, to. View, and you know. Kind of way you're not allowed. To all communicate as a. Group on on email. but oftentimes that will go one by one. Just so that you can kind of be speaking with each other and get that agreement.

[94:01] So that that would be one way. To to go about. That it's kind of. It sounds like a long process. It doesn't necessarily have to be, but. Typically one Commissioner. Would you know phone. And tier to to draft. That up. Check, with. The other. Commissioners to get their review and. Effort. or any. Changes. And then Christian and I can certainly help get that to where? Where you intended to go. Perfect. If y'all are okay with it, I'd love to volunteer. To draft something up, and I can run it by 2. Yes. Cool, cool. Is that a thumbs up from you as well? Carlos? Ergo Macarthur. Nothing. De la Secunda. Usually have to have to vote on it. I think you can just move ahead. Yes. I second it

[95:03] all in a favor. That's really good. Got it. Okay. So. So those were those 3 topics. Yeah. Thank you guys. So now we are moving on. The staffroom. Update, and I will pass it this on to Elizabeth and. I'm Christian. Yeah. Christian will probably take up some some of this later on. But this being his 1st Hrc meeting, and, by the way. Yay! so typically for these staff updates, unless there's a very. Specific. Topic that Hrc. Members are interested in having us talk about and kind of know about it. Had of. Time. We really just wanna let you know. Maybe if there's any

[96:01] any topic that you have talked. About. And recently, you know. Earlier this year. Or even. Little bit last year. Or that you've had questions about previously that we just. Let you know. Some of. What is happening. Happening. So this slide. And again, each of these is a link. Link to over. Page, and you'll you'll have it when we distribute the the packet. On Pd. Of the slides. But the 1st is that commissioners have. They're pretty. Obviously been interested in knowing when the Homelessness Day Service Center would be opening and. Kind of tracking that process. It is now open. It's being held. At, the. Boulder shelter for the homeless and. North, boulder. During. The daytime. Hours, that. Previously the shelter would. Have been. Would have been closed. So now they're. Are, my. More.

[97:01] Kind of not quite. But you know. Virtually round the clock. Access that community members have. To Services that are that are there. If it's something that. But you're interest. In the web link that we'll share has a lot more information. They're volunteers. Also been a fair. Amount of kind of coverage of this topic is. As I think some of. You know and. Been in the works for quite some time. I'm but that is now open. Yeah. Services are moving ahead. We also just wanted to share again the web page. For the. Police oversight panel. As some commissioners have been entering. Interested in in this topic for sure. We've had a couple of months ago, or maybe a few months. To go now. Some questions that you all had posed to the panel, chair and vice chair, and they respond. Good we've.

[98:00] Had the police oversight. Staff member, sherry dawn come prior to that kind of maybe right early and earliest in the year. And share, so not. Necessarily any milestones that Christian or I can represent. But again, the information, is there. If you want it. Going back. To this. Topic of chronic. Newson. Ordinance we mentioned it kind of at the very beginning. Of the meeting. And. Erin, you were wondering about that. This is a item that came to the Hrc. As well as other. Organizations. To the community. Connectors, the. Tenant Advisory Committee. So lots of our. Are different. Liaison, group. Groups. It is about a. At. Change or an update. To an ordinance that would help address issues that at. Between. Landlords or property owners.

[99:01] and the people who live there. Where, if. There is. Is a bill. Thing, or a regulation that is. Being. Where someone is not. Not being. Compliance. There was City council. Muscles. Interest in. Actually. Making an ordinance that is truly citywide. And there's. And a lot of work done on this in the last year. Just wanted to let you know. That this topic will be going To be discussed at the city. Council meeting on July 25. Which is coming up very soon. There is a project, web, page. Which, if. You're interested in. obviously always welcome to join city council meetings as. And observer yourselves. And that leads to the next bullet point. Which is just the reminder. Again. It's been discussed before. Or. Anyone. In the community. Is welcome to.

[100:00] Observe. Online. They're in person when they are in person meetings. To provide public. Comment, or. Speak at a public here. For city council meetings. This is something that. But some of you have. Been interested in, but also, maybe questions that you're getting from the community members. Are wondering how to communicate with city Council members. So we just. Just wanted to. Provide that information again as well. And then, lastly, the link to your Hrc. Work plan. For 2024, and 25. Just lists and kind of track. Like some of those discuss. Item. Terms of. Presentations that we've had and where, Christian, I. Continue to update that document. What you've discussed this evening. So you're able to remember, what has already been addressed. This year, and do some. Planning for the rest of this year and next.

[101:02] So that's really all we had for the update. But. If you have. Have any other questions so. Happy, to. Take them, and if. We don't know the answers. We're happy to get. Them for you any questions. For my part, for my partner, no. Nope. It looks like Elizabeth may have frozen. I know she is in a

[102:01] not super great Wi-fi area. Right now. Give me one second, let me try to text her and let her. Now. Looks like we lost her for a minute. She's gonna try to pop back in. And I back. Yes, you are. All right.

[103:00] So I think the next topic, Jh, is just the updates from commissioners and Carlos had one thing you wanted to bring up regarding National night out. She is the national night out or national. As soon as organizado for principal member for Laporte. Lesia. Is on the La Policy Tuesday of bueno custody is the okay. I still went to. Participant. To connect police. Yeah, is the event. Martes seize the Augusto, the Cinco Ocho, and I'll park the foothills account on the Atraza Mikasa.

[104:02] He was. There is the presenter personnel. Tell us you there. The policy. Yeah, those bombardos. It was presto juenta de la comunidar. hey, Barbara? Who knows? Is there? Tokyo? Over Pinyata Saluno? Say event was a paranoia. And Yangzhou. Your trust cost us. And so. Says. standing vitados, if we don't assist you unlocking that gracias una kosamas, telavino tangle flyer, Prankolotengas, Hello, manda Christian parakilo not low Monday, OS. Yoluo, Mandarios, Salos, Manda.

[105:05] Thank you, Carlos. Any other updates from commissioners. If not, that's okay. That's okay. Yeah. Look cool. Okay? Oh, we are almost at the end of the meeting, which that I would like to pass it on to stuff or resume. I already did that Elizabeth correct. I didn't give the follow up items yet. I think.

[106:01] Really quick recap, and then There are no other issues after that, I think. You're in a. And then. Thank you. And if I can do it in 1 min, We could actually. And maybe exactly at 8 o'clock. So Christian and I have several things to. 2. Follow up! On! First, st so. All, we will actually last last. Last. Things. First, st we And we. Look for receiving a flyer for national night out from Carlos. And be able to show. Yeah, that around. Around with everyone. Possibly. With the packet. We will. Christian. I will hear from Erin, I think some. Time, soon. With whatever communication you all might want to send to. City may. Manager regarding. The. you know, kind of addressing the tensions.

[107:00] In the community. Community. About kind of. An effect. The Gaza and Israel conf. Clicked. We will speak with JH. And. And. Carlos about the Hrc. Reit. We'll look at our schedules. Chris. And I will. And reach out to both of you. In another week or so to to set that up. I will just note that just for. Me, not even here. Including Christian schedule, have. A lot of. Out of town. Travel. For work in the next couple of weeks. But we'll we'll do our best. To do it. At a time. That works for you all. And then potentially, that retreat will be in August. But again. it doesn't necessarily. Really have to be. So we'll work on that as. Well, we will

[108:01] Erin, also. Offer to. You're on a roll, my friend. signing up for stuff is going to. Connect with Christian and. Hi! I'm so. So we can introduce you to our colleague, Anna Sylvia, and kind. And have a conversation. Together. About what a. Whether. And Hrc. Wants to continue with. Kind of planning. For a community training. The laboratory, to. Combat, human. Trafficking. And then from there we will just ha be happy to be in touch with you all. In with. Taylor Ryman, who present. To the minimum. Wage. Taylor, I know we'll be interested, as will the rest. The team work. On this. Issue, for. City in sharing more information about the engagement process. Us. The economic. Report when it's 5. And if that's some. Something that.

[109:00] The Hrc. Wants to. Hear more. About or otherwise kind of be more and. Engaged in that process, as it. Moves forward. Taylor would be the person. We can help you. Communicate with on that. I think that's it. That's Christian. Anything else. On our plates, that. He can recall. Nothing that I have in mind. And Snoop great. Well, thank you. Rob. Hey? Thank you. With that we can move on to. A dream. Tonight meeting. Not. Of 8 0. 1 Pm. Can I get a motion to adjourn. The Ju. July 16.th 22. Full meeting. So moved. Who will segue.

[110:00] I second. Kundal. That's okay. All in favor. Aye, aye. Take you. Eric. Good to see you. Man. Maybe we should get together. Food for coffee. What do you do? I would love that. I would love that. Yeah, I'll send you an email. This weekend. This weekend. Yeah.