April 26, 2023 — Boulder Arts Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:00] It's we are now recording. We're back. Bus begins the meeting. Welcome to the April 20, sixth. 2023 folder of the commission meeting. Hello, the never line before we get started. I just want to read our land acknowledgment. The City of Older Arts Commission acknowledges the City of Boulder is on the ancestral homelands and unse the territory of indigenous people. So Traverse lived in and stewarded lands in the Boulder Valley time immemorial. Those indigenous nations include the Arapaho, Cheyenne, Iowa, Sioux, and others. Our benefit from this land came at a dire cost to the indigenous people, and we give thanks to them. So first up on the agenda is the approval of the agenda. Everybody has a copy. Let's see. Do we need Caroline to take this vote?

[1:06] It wants to. I mean that i'm going to take my time. So i'm not going to join you at the table because we're still sort of negotiating the doors, and we don't know that we have any public who are coming, but just in case so just you know I I love you all. I am anyone else. if you'd like. So

[2:04] you know, if if you'd like, you could start with swearing in straight to that, come back to yeah, it doesn't require. Okay, that'd be a wonderful use of time. So it's with great pleasure that we're going to swear in our 2 new older Arts Commission Commissioners, Cheryl, Cardozo and Jeffrey cash. So i'm gonna read the oath of office. and we'll do a little thing where you just repeat what I say, and then i'll help you out. Each sign this. the officialness of it all. I state your name. Are we doing this in unison? Yeah. Oh. I I can solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States of America. I'll support the Constitution of the United States of America, and of the State of Colorado, and of the State of Colorado and the charter and ordinances of the City of Boulder, and faithfully perform the duties.

[3:14] I Basically, perform. The duties of the office of a member in the office of a member of the Arts Commission, which I am about to enter of the Office Commission, which i'm about to enter. Wonderful! Thank you very much sign those I will hand them to the which secretary it won't be official. it is it's a which I have to keep in mind. This is Well, that's it an initial.

[4:00] Thank you, sir. It's all right. So one approval of the agenda with somebody like to make a motion. Thank you, Caroline Any discussion. not seeing any. All those in favor will pass it unanimously. Thank you. Next up is approval of the minutes from the March 2023 meeting Matt on page 4. There is a computation error in the numbers, so just want to point out that we'll fix it so it's 10,000. Me a banker. Thank you. Let's see. So do I hear a motion

[5:05] I made to approve the minutes from all Mark meeting. Thank you. Is there a second? Thank you, Maria. Any discussion right? Not seeing any. All those in favor and vote passes unanimously. Thank you, everybody. Public participation that i'll look to you for that. So we do not have anyone signed up to now in person or in video. Correct. Okay, thank you. I just want to reiterate to the community that our meetings are now open to the public. Thanks, Scott. Finally, we welcome and encourage public participation in our meeting. So out there in TV, I am, please. If you have something to say, we we welcome you to our meetings. I think it's just that. I think it's just here to listen. That's what Lisa said, oh, i'm sorry.

[6:06] so it's Matt incorrect. No? Well, he was as we talked about in person when I, when I said that the hand went up. So. Jennifer, I'm going to turn on your ability. You should be able to unmute yourself. We give you 2 min to speak. Oh. hello! Am I unmuted you are. I just wanted to let you know I'm here because I heard somebody say that nobody was here on video, and i'm here. So i'm glad you hear my apologies. I meant no one on video is expressed and interested in speaking during public comment. Okay, are we good to move on from? Okay, Thank you. Let's see. So we did the swearing in introductions. If let's just. I'd love to hear

[7:00] from our 2 new commissioners. Just tell us a little bit about yourselves, and we'll all do the same. I'm cheryl Cardozo I first got i'm originally from New York. What a few years! And I to have got to boulder 96 just for a little while. And that's what happened. I first got involved in the arts and older when I ran the my Mc's breakthrough Arts program, I don't think, exists anymore which offered free. And we also, at the time oversaw the teen area of the creek. I also started working medical education. So I i'm an actor actor background. So I use theater to teach health professionals how to communicate better. I to teach that over in the shoots, and was here to stay until I met an Australian.

[8:01] and then I left for 18 months, which turned into 7 years. and he always wanted to to New York. You know, 5 years in New York City. that small child into the 6 years because of Covid, and when school time for school to start. It came back here, and I continue in Australia. I was doing the medical education, and I am continuing to that center has in the 20 years I've been there has grown astronomically, and now we work with nurses and position, assistant students, pharmacy, students as well as not the students. I dabble it stand up comedy, my love, which is you thinking i'm funny. and i'm really excited to be part of this, and start giving back to a place that I love so much, and i'll keep older, creative and vibrate. Yeah, sure. My name is Jeffrey Cash, and i'm just so. I'm able to live in a town that has this, and makes it so accessible for for everyone. I have a background in theatre. I've been doing summer sucks. I was 7 years old and and went to college for that

[9:15] met my husband, and it's for 18 years ago, when we moved out the folder 13 years ago for his job at Cu. He's in the College of Music. and we were able to make some really fast, meaningful roots here and and make an impact as as best we could. and I i'm happy to to be involved. I I like to think of myself as a community builder. I I run the community affairs first. One of the large credit unions here in town, and work for a previous credit union for 10 years. Here. also in a restaurant and just brand a nonprofit, and if i'll manage a trade shows in the company for a number of years. Locally, I I sit on the board for the Shakespeare festival, and I just set up the dairy art center board. I still am involved over the dairy center by curating and hosting a monthly classic film series.

[10:07] I started and run on board County, so that I personally, I would be to queue any of my Sports League, which is the only on Sunday nights. Let's see I. I have a stage character, Mrs. LED. A. Bagel. With him. I have 5 traveled the country to raise 2.5 million dollars for, and I I raised about 2.5 million dollars for charities across the country locally form a bit of dairy, our center, the clock tower, cap rate, or nieces. and i'm just happy to get involved in any way I can, and sit on a number of other boards outside of forming our side, involved in a lot of fundraising and consulting work and and and bringing development directors and executive directors and board members together to to collaborate nothing I've ever done in my life was something because Jeffrey did. It was because we brought people together, and they figured out a way that they could work together.

[11:07] Great glad to be here. Yeah, welcome to both of you. Carolyn. All of us trying to follow the pattern of what you guys talked about. I moved here from detroit via Boston in 1995. So it's been a community number for a long time now I've been immersed in the arts since I was young. I was a musician. It's not my summer center. I lock in that. So you know, mostly doing music. I I've been really over to the earth for a number of years, and what my professional volunteer Here I helped to start Phoenix Asylum, which is a maker and artist space. I've done numerous boards throughout the years. I'm the regional contact for the burning man community here. So I I bring out a lot of that burning in perspective to art, some public art, some.

[12:08] and experience the arts. I'm. Working on a big civic arts project right now. which is slightly grinding its way through the process, and i'm an arts attorney. So I help support. you know, and creative businesses, and they've been involved in a number of different events. and I went to film school for a while, so i'm a big. So I love the I'm really glad to be here, and I love this team. I'm: Ellie I'm from Oklahoma, originally a self taught visual artist and illustrator. and then I work at a public which is a bicycle trade store, and and also for them, and then also independently, I produce events, whether it's style, oriented or drag or not. And then I also perform. Drag.

[13:06] Yeah. Maria Hi! Everyone. Sorry I couldn't join you in person. I i'm Maria, call. I'm an architect. I've moved up to Boulder in about 2,013, and prior to that I was involved with Denver office of cultural affairs, as well as the Creative Industry Board. So i'm happy to be able to continue serving the community through these boards. I'm an architect, and my work is primarily focused around museum and cultural facilities. So I worked on most of the cultural buildings in Denver, Denver Art Museum, Museum of Contemporary Nature and science. and currently now working on the Clifford Still Museum. So that's really my passion. And then I i'm a dabbler and visual arts, like most architects, you know. So and I went to definitely went to Carnival. And so I spent some

[14:01] 6 years there, you know, 5 years from yeah. So no, that No, no, Pittsburgh. Well. nice to meet you both. Some let's say my name is Bruce Burowski. I am a filmmaker. I moved here 33 years ago, 1990 from San Francisco. I grew up in Miami Beach, and I've been doing photography and film since I was a little kid. I was on the board of directors of the Boulder Chamber for 10 years chair during part of it. and I like to think of myself as very involved in our little community. So yeah, again. Welcome to both of you. We're excited to have you on the Arts Commission. Welcome. So yeah, let's let's keep moving. You'll need Georgia that our next meeting. And does that make 7? That's all that's really awesome.

[15:05] Yeah, I I was gonna mention that it's Thank you for saving us from ourselves. I just assume you guys have already met Lauren and Matt. That bad bad. Yeah, I think we formally have face to face, but it's so nice to me. And and she she met. She and I met. She met Chris yesterday, but I've known for for years. Oh, okay, wonderful. Yeah. So just to be clear the background. In in one sentence is the Arts Commission and the Arts and Culture Office used to be under the Boulder Public Library, but got slid off to the office of community vitality. One was a couple a few months ago. Most of your the Covid blurred. It could have been 5 years ago. Yeah, it feels like it's just a few months.

[16:07] It's like a yeah. And Chris, obviously it's like a good deal. Yeah, the office of community vice. So normally, if he's here. But yeah, you'll be seeing a lot of them as well. All right. So what do we have next? Why must the leadership positions? Are we doing that now, Are we going to wait till so there is typically we do that when new commissioners are sworn in. But we're recommending that we go ahead and postpone that. And so to do that we would just do a motion. and that's just a keep. Consistency on the the judging of the grant applications correct, you know. Okay. thanks, everyone. I moved that we post. That's until July. 2023,

[17:00] I second. Thank you both. Any discussion. not not hearing any, all those in favor awesome. So it passes unanimously. Thank you, everybody. You can just fly them through that. Let's see. So i'm pretty impressed with my H. A. It's never the stuff. Alright, Laura, You wanna take us through the brands. Sorry to be up to you. Okay? Oh, and i'm just gonna take 2 s to tell our new commissioners so what we what we try to do in the interest of time, because nobody really like yeah meetings to go to what. But we ask what we've all kind of agreed on is that when we get sent the packets each month from Matt or Lisa, or even more, and when we get set up the the day packet for the meeting, we ask that everybody read it

[18:09] and be comfortable with what's in there, and then. So when we have the meeting. there's no person presenting all the stuff that we should have read already. They can get right to any questions we might have any kind of discussions. We want to have everybody. Okay, with that. Okay, Great? Thank you. All right, Martin. It's all yours. So first we have the grand decisions on community projects for organization, and the benefit of our new commissioners. As M. Might have walked you through. There's a so, and say you received the first round. The arts education grants. So you'll review them in our Grant software. Hopefully, it's fairly easy, but feel free to tell me anytime. If you want to walk through. you do a first round, and then you'll receive a one page response to those, and then a second round of feedback, and then

[19:01] we will bring the final scores to you at the meetings. So you'll be able to talk about the decisions of these meetings, because the scores are ultimately a guide for you. They're not the final decisions. And so at this meeting is where you, if you have concerned. If you want to talk through anything. This is where you would make any kind of changes or adjustments in the now 6 years I've been here that's never happened. But you're welcome to the things around if you feel like the top score, and these are ideal for what you have in mind. it's at this meeting, and account. You have the option to approve the step recommendation for that I scoring grants. That's another piece that set to recommend. Also that you approve the highest for advance, but also. That's a recommendation from us. So you are welcome to to find that recommendation. You can approve individual grants, so that would be if you're moving them around, or you post, call an approval of individual grants pending answers to any specific questions. So, for example, I don't know I I don't think it's ever happened. But, for example, let's see if it's. Something happened at a fire somewhere.

[20:08] and if you wanted to be sure that they would still carry on with whatever they have proposed to do, because it is now 2 months from when they posted you this and you can. These are kind of people online. See? That's something that might be as I can get it. But the ones in 2 are the the top scoring, and you can see it. Actually, i'm sorry, Lisa, do you mind moving? Oh, my goodness! Oh, really, could you move down a little bit? So this is the overall average across. We do not have a tie. We have a very, very, very close

[21:02] for, but we do not have a tie in the instant of a tie. We have some for their point system set up to be able to deal with that. However, these are the top 6, and we do have a threshold score, which is 75% of the total, but it's 27, and so there's only one organization that didn't meet that threshold the threshold generally is used to talk about how many are above the threshold, but are not being able to be funded. This to me. Read that we have a lot of very strong applications. Frankly, a point. almost all of them above 75 of the scores. So at this point you will want to talk through these top 6. See if you have any questions, and then you'll have a vote on it. I do have a motion language if you the top 6. I do want to note that the bullet community media. Right in the packet was listed as Kg. New, who's adjusted. And there's like an adjustment in your

[22:09] this right? She and I flies on the walls for this? Basically Yes, yeah. So you're welcome to vote. And I do believe you actually, you don't want to. Yeah, you do want to vote because of a non vote is a no great yes, so that no, not going to see. Yes, it is boulder only, but the scores are a guideline for you to as, and not having scored, but as city, and both pressing your colleagues and scores to guide you. But you you're also welcome to right, because I I I mean I haven't seen applications. I don't I mean I I I know a lot of the operating budgets, and I don't know all of them. You know. Where is the impact where it's not the yeah. So so you're you're permitted to. But you don't have to, and the general rule on everything is, you know, listening colleagues, reading the packet and looking at this and talking to staff it, it is something well as reason to make a

[23:19] So typically we would make a motion and then have discussion. But in this case i'll open it up just based on tradition. If there's any discussion before we make it unless somebody wants to go ahead and make a motion. I take the temperature. I'm: sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. As a group or just individually, go around the room individually. Yeah, no, thank you. And I just to start it off. I'm quite happy to both with the staff recommendation of the top scores.

[24:08] Sounds like Caroline is not in her head. Maria. Okay. So why don't we just if somebody yet, Matt: when you get to discussion, I have 1 point. Okay, Thank you. Okay, there we go. So somebody would like to make a motion. I'll I'll make a motion. I I move that's Sansui Festival of of Dance, Cinema, Boulder, Symphony, Street, Wise Arts, Boulder, Community, Media Modus Theatre, and the Community Roots Art Festival be awarded grants and the community project for organizations. Category. Is there a second Awesome. Thank you. So before we started our discussion, Matt. And then Lauren. Thank you not be a it's a body of voice, not

[25:02] I. I had some conversation with Georgia. She regrets that she wasn't able to attend tonight, but she wanted to make sure that we just brought up the subject of Modus theatre. They supplied a response in the Q. A. Restoring step. and she believes there was a misunderstanding on the comments she gave on that step, and she had taken wording in the rubric, and applied that to her score, and put that in there. There. There may have been a misunderstanding that in the couple of Equity Section that she was saying. Only some people are served by the equity efforts of this grant. That is not what she intended. It was merely a reflection of a read on the the scale and some of the details of the effort. So she wanted me to make sure you all knew in that context her thoughts and she definitely didn't want the impression to come across that there was anything that she was diminishing the equity effort in that it was merely a scale and comparison issue, and especially this is me speaking now. Thank you, Georgia.

[26:09] This is especially important, for I think this particular one, because there is so much anti trans efforts going on across the country that we want to make it really clear, regardless of the outcome of the grants or their discussion that we're supportive of rights and of artists speaking out. So I wanted to make sure that that was clear in the process. Great. I can be my way back to your boat. I Okay, All right. That's fair enough. Any discussion amongst the Commissioners. It's not necessary. It's not mandatory. It's in Co. There's a coach here to to abstain, knowing that everyone else is on the working. I don't need to have an opinion on. I mean you can based it on the scores. That's the answer. That's not question how many people, by a total 30 total is it the highest when it's in the back end like that. Okay.

[27:13] most of tests there. I think I I I like to echo. I I don't know who said it, but I think that the the closeness and the scores, that the I think the applications are excellent, and I really starting to address a lot of the rubric and the the needs for diversity in our community and expression of diversity. So I think that's that's a huge plus, obviously the the the negative is. There's limited funds to to give, and it's very competitive. Yeah, I I could say this either, before after we go, but i'll just say it now this is the hardest part. And i'm saying this especially to the new Commissioners. This is the hardest part, because there are a lot of great grants applications in there, and we're about to vote, and over 20

[28:08] organizations in Boulder are not going to get this funding, and you know it's sad, and there's all we can do is ask for more money to give away, and that's what we try to do every year. So this is. This is a good part of what we do, but it's also kind of a the disappointing thing as well not to be able to give money to everybody. Comment that Maria just turned on my mind. I completely echo what Maria said, and I've noticed, and also that as I go through personally my evaluation, I oftentimes have gaps in the evaluation and outcomes area where i'm talking questions, and most the organizations are really good about answering when I pop them. But it may be something that we can talk about in our retreat. As to how we can support people having more robust.

[29:03] I I I I I I agree. I would just say maybe we somehow, if we could do that before the retreat, because if we wait, the only reason is, if we wait for the retreat, I don't think it gives Lauren enough time to put it in that whole new set of grant applications. It's kind of like a whole year. Is that right? I'm a meeting. so so you know I would encourage you to maybe either do it by yourself or work with another commissioner, but try to, maybe. you know. Bring it to to the the commission as a as something to present like that's kinda done and fleshed out. And then we all all we have to do is phone on it. What? Yeah, no, I I Many of us, I think, are interested in the kind of that same thing. So I knew if if you were, if you were interested in somebody else at our expert. I just know how to ask questions. So you want to just the question that we're asking them, and that's all what I was saying I would say much like we've got like. Now we've got a grant

[30:20] opportunity for frank writers. So yeah, what what resources can we bring to communicate. How help the entities do that? Are you know the question, or even consideration? Questions? Yes, so it was one of the topics that we brought up with other county arts science that they are doing a 2 part series of training on how to do evaluations because they don't like it's better for how they're going to be doing it. Not necessarily. But i'll keep looking and thinking about that, too. But if there is language that needs to be changed. I think it brings open to it.

[31:01] Yeah, like I i'm looking to, I think, in our I think our languages like that looking for quantitative and qualitative analysis, and how how their election is going to, what benchmarks are They're measuring against, too, and like a lot of those elements to be missing, or the answer right? So last people who had a great time. Okay. we really like it. It did you, really? And part of that goes into something we were talking about earlier, which was the language, the actual language, and the grants, and making it more, You know, when you just said that qualitative and quantitative. and I was just imagining how a person who's English isn't their first language, how they might respond to seeing that, and feel like, oh, my God! There's no way I can fill up this application.

[32:02] You know. That's that's a barrier that might be improved upon. Alright, do do we need to talk before we do a final vote about the like letter from our email from lemon sponge cake. And as as I recall, they did not get the questions is that how it was Lauren. So we sent out an email from our Grant software to with their evaluation. So as you're scoring during the internal scoring, you're also writing comments and questions if they are scoring below a certain point, so they have a way to respond to. So it's not just like i'm giving those, for you know the book. So it goes from our software, and they did not. It got a second there, Google, like, Wait list. However, we do in the Grant application on the website, and in a number of different places. We tell people the full calendar, and so, when they have signed off on their in the shop location. It says, I know the calendar for this, so they it's honestly on them to reach out to us if they Haven't received it, and

[33:13] it's we had to decline. There were 4 organizations that 3 of them reached out and said: I missed the day, and on this round alone, much less the the last round. So it it does frankly kind of happen here and there that in this email they miss the dates. But we keep very, very tightly to our schedules. So we're being receptible of all of our applicants, and all of all of you, because it would delay everything. And and just to be clear. The other people that you said they they're they got the email. the other ones. I'm not sure. They just said I missed the date, so I don't know if they miss the email. I'm. Just curious if there was a consistency there with the email part of it there isn't there hasn't been for lots of other people it's totally possible. But part of the process is, we tell people to make sure to add this to your wait list. So you know that it's gonna come through. Check your joint mail like kind of stuff that we do so. Unfortunately, when they sign the agreement to the application. The timing is in the application. So they're saying, I understand that this is how it works. And

[34:15] just think, he'd be the bad guy over over and over again. But i'm happy to do that, because we want to be kind of a set and make sure everybody's treated fairly. I think that was a fantastic explanation, and I I agree with you. I just thought it would be good to discuss it publicly. So thank you for that that clarification. So, for any of our applicants that are watching. So if you miss something, if you think you miss something, feel free to to me, we don't wanna we don't want that to happen. Okay, Great, Any more discussion before the do we publish like annually, like a list of like the yeah. So November 15 of every single year. I will publish our full schedule. That's for everybody. And if you want calendar invitations or anything for you guys for our new commissioners, I'm happy to send you individual little reminders.

[35:10] You can type in Grant program, not going to use published on November 15. So people really just put it on their calendars everything. Yeah. So even if you met an email, theoretically, it's not, you know, and it goes in our newsletter and that kind of thing. It's always on my website. Yeah. I'm kind of like I'm: Sure, people are actually sick of that by the time. Okay, any other questions or discussion alright, i'll call for the vote all those in favor. And thank you very much. It passes unanimously, everybody. Okay. I speak it. Okay, this is exciting. So you might remember the Commission from last year that we had 3 36,000 and change dollars left over from the Grant program last year, because we didn't have enough applicants in a couple of categories. It's not happening this year, by the way. So we, the Commission last year asks that 30,000 be dedicated to this category, and then the additional 6 be dedicated to

[36:18] the venue and event fund, which is the rental assistance, like helping people rent them at space. So we have requested it in our first adjustment to base, so it has to go through. It has to be approved. We can't just hold it over, but it was requested. It's gonna be discussed in May, and then decision is June first. So for the next 3 grantees actually do they need to vote on this. Yeah, we're gonna come back. Okay, Great. So if and when we are awarded those funds, we will come back to you asking that you vote to award the next 3. That sounds fine because it gets little. It just is that, honestly, it's the next 3. We've come back to you and and have you vote on these next 3 projects.

[37:09] I know that's that's great news. Thank you. All right. Okay. What else you got for us? I want to have. There's so many there's so many there's so many, I mean, for those people watching that are disgusting, you know. So we have great reports this evening. We had 4 reports or these seeming. So you'll receive the These reports are follow up from other awards that we're right. So for community project grants and Arts education to see the final 20 of their award. You need to accuse the Commission needs to approve their report.

[38:09] so you bring them to you. You'll get it in a packet, usually about a week in a couple of days you for commission meeting. I'll send you a reminder. Read the report. It's one page of text, and then usually pictures, and you know, content to see how it's going. Your options are to approve the reports approved individual ones, and the individual ones with questions. So if you you can say yes, I want them to get their final 20% payment. However, I still have some questions about the report. you can postpone a Google of individual reports pending answers to specific questions. So if you're like, i'm really concerned about something that they mentioned in the report. I want to hold back at 20. So they've answered that question, and then the final that you can decline a report and cancel the final 20, which I haven't seen happen is generally they just Haven't answered the question that you

[39:04] happened once that and it's Yeah. So we have 4 reports that you would have seen. I just put this up there. the older International. So if you have any specific questions, if you want to hold out or call out any right? Yeah. So I like Caroline. This idea of just getting a sense. So because normally we've been with discussion that for the motion is on the table. So right now to be known as Caroline's method. airline process. You know people.

[40:09] I read through all the reports, and i'm happy to approve all of it. seeing similar nodding the consensus on this one. Yeah. So I would be happy to entertain number. I'll move up my question, Thank you. And we've now we approved the Grant reports from the Boulder International there. A second. Any discussion I have just a few comments that struck him struck up, came to the forefront for me, I think, in the past we've talked about the importance of the Arts Education Project grants, and we know that there were some challenges

[41:03] continuing those during Covid, and I just found the ones that were submitted had an incredible impact. If I I did my math right, I think that there was an outreach to 833 students, which is, I think, incredible for these 3 programs. So I I think that's a big. That's the future, You know it's a future pipeline, and that's the future of our our city. So I think that's like a big plus that I wanted to call out, and I I think the other thing I I really enjoyed seeing was the integration, You know a lot of them talk about STEM, and they're integrating arts into that so? It's steam. And I think that's again moving the dialogue forward in our education system. That's wonderful, Maria. Thank you. Anyone else. And I I just really like the multicultural what was going on. So yeah, it feels good. Yeah, it's very nice to see. Yeah, good friend.

[42:02] All right. Anyone else. all right. All those in favor. Please raise your hand. and both passes unanimously. Thank you. Everybody matters from Commissioners anything top of mind anybody wants to talk about. Definitely. Let me know what you do for support the yearly meetings that have been sent out for appointment. So thank you for doing that. There was mention of a retreat if you could send that to the 2 of us, or actually, basically link basically to everyone, if you have. all right. So we know where and what the logistics are, and when, because I know we all have very busy schedules.

[43:03] I want to make sure that we're available. No, we're usually the the staff is great about setting out the whole year for the meetings, so people can plan a drop, block it off on their calendars, so i'm sure you'll be getting that very, very soon. It' be in December. What they have this December I don't remember usually you a meeting on the books, but the past 2 years we have. Oh, that's right. Yeah, if we don't, if it's not a a lot of stuff that we need to talk about. That's to that point. There's also November meeting of the December meetings. It's the last Wednesday. Just fall in holiday land. We'll be good. I've ever meeting all those Yeah, because November would be 20 s. It would be the day before, and I am up to my almost the October retreat. It's typically I don't know 4 or 5 h long. So we definitely want to get to that date, because that's super important for us to be able to really kind of delve into issues go deep on. Some stop is that on the regular

[44:12] 8 that we would typically mean in October that's not always. They start a negotiation a lot. We'll try and started earlier this year. We should start that August. Yeah, the sooner the better. So everybody can get them all blocked off because it is a longer meeting, so I want to be sure everybody has plenty of notice. I'll just mention that the older kind of film commission is having a big event that you all are invited to May seventeenth, over at he town. thanks in part to Graham. a number of places I don't have that, including older Arts Commission create boulder business and business. We're also known as visit boulder and

[45:04] number of sponsors as well, so I hope everybody can make it to that, and to the public who are creative people that we're calling a creative industry night. So it's not just filmmakers. It's web designers, graphic designers, photographers. mobile app developers all about the creative community. It's free anyone else before we go on to to Matt. All right, madam. Thanks very much. So in the second, I will ask if you have any questions about the managers at all clear up. But while you're thinking about those couple of notes Boulder Arts week wrapped up. we're gonna do it planned on the next meeting. Have a presentation from Lauren and April and the director of the last week to numbers. Talk about the experience from the feature. So look forward to that also. The next meeting we're planning on having the team from farm to spaceship come and talk about the progress on the experiments of public art.

[46:12] It's it's at a really critical stage right now, where we have seen some of the preliminary proposals, and we're working with ours to and businesses to combine those. But we're hoping to be with both the standing select panel and with you about this, in order to check in before we proceed, and actually start implementing some of these. So it's going to be pretty critical to get you back at that one. There's an off chance we might from that to June, but still hopefully so as easy as this. Meetings going the next month's going to be a juice, sticking it out with us in other important news, the quick round of on research that's going on arts and economic prosperity. 6. It's a study that we've been working on for almost a year now, I think, and it'll keep going for another few months. It's through a method for the arts takes a look at the economic impact of the nonprofit sector, and there they.

[47:08] their audiences huge undertaking where Lauren has to go out. Get 800. I know. I'm gonna say 800 individual surveys from audience members and deep dive organizational survey from about 40 nonprofits. Morgan's already exceeded all those numbers. It's still in great, but we're getting almost to the point now, where we'll kind of close that up. So for a few months to digesting that, and on the other end of that we can do a report presentation for you about that. Send it out to the community and also informs our economic. So all that is coming, and then I don't know if you caught but the some of the other methods University data Arts program as named Boulder in one of its top 10 most arts vibrant cities again. Yeah, so we got the notice of that. They're going to be completing the data visualization. So we're soon. They didn't rank us. This time we were number 2. The last time they decided not to rank, making everyone to feel bad.

[48:21] We're still in the top 10, and then the last thing is is that next meeting you'll be able to meet Red and Picker, who is our new public administrator long, last, and so he starts on Monday. It'll take a little while to wrap up, but we'll be able to pretty soon meeting. Yeah. So with that we're able to breed it right thumbs up for Brendan. So Are there any questions about the Matt? I have a question about your line items about the Venues? The feasibility study I create boulder

[49:07] is that is that been published online, or can you share any bullet points for us or high level discussions? Yeah, it it's available mine. I'll share the link with everyone. So you can read it for yourself. It's quite accepted documents. So if you work aware, create boulder and obviously organization to study of, if it's possible to bring an effort to that was new performing arts venue in boulder. They had a panel of experts, and did a lot of interviews, and launched that to as a presentation of the community. They compiled all of that into this report. In short, the report says that Yes, absolutely. There is a capacity in the marketplace, and the need in the community and amongst artists organizations. But there is a long fuse on making something like that a reality. And so there's a kind of a elegant

[50:02] step by step, of starting with adaptive reuse and some smaller efforts in order to build towards that through the establishment of a trust model. So it it. It's laid out pretty well there, I can definitely. Of course, you can reach out to Crate Boulder. They are great at. They are responsive, but it does what is in an interesting direction. Right? It's not the first time that the subjects come up, but it's a very different approach. So so so no conversation about public private partnership in that type of development. no conversation other than there will have to be some government interaction right? And so we don't know the level of that yet we haven't sort of gotten into financing and that sort of thing. So we're just at the point where the idea is sort of on the table for discussion.

[51:00] So yeah, they They'll probably be coming here as the first stop. So you may be the first to know if that's moving forward towards making it. Reality is well they is, is the report in addition to or after everything they presented in the town. What they presented at each. I mean it's. It's mostly a detailed back into what they presented. There is some requirements based on the conversation. They're yeah anything else that No, it's it for me, Thank you. Well. yeah, we are. Oh, my wow! Well. unless anybody has any any events you want to talk about in your world that you want to share with everybody. I mean, I can pull up a list of volunteers that we need for our project like on the seventh, the seventeenth. You got 60 s. I'm: not sure. You know Arts education.

[52:09] Okay? Thank you. Okay. So while i'm pulling this up, I can tell you a little bit about the project which the commissioners who are around when we get our in our arts, grants no about the proposal but it. We are bringing a burning man, style temple to boulder. And if you're familiar with burning man, you may know about the big name it gets firm, but there's also a no denominational sample space where participants go in, and you messages on the walls and the Mentos, and lay down grief and comma. and then at the burning man events that is released from fire in a community setting. So we're bringing the same style of temple to boulder. It's not going to be released through fire. Obviously, because that's part of the problem we're trying to feel.

[53:06] But it's it's going to be a pavilion style temple. It's designed by an architect and Boulder, who also designed the large temple in burning me at a large amount. Last year. He's a holder on the tech, and has donated the design. and we need a bunch of volunteers, and I'm looking for my list on that. We're looking for somebody people that it's meant to be very community and and older supported. and the roles that we have that would be really well handled by community members. Or we're looking for somebody that can that will need to be opening, and ceremonies and scripts orchestrate that and project. Manage that. We're looking for somebody who's gonna be a billeting lead which would be for people to come out of town, the

[54:08] whatever the case would be. We're also looking for somebody who has a pr communication, and we need our So those are the the top 3 that i'll say right. So you know anybody, or you want to hear more about Projects CD. And we are very gratefully supported by a crab from the Boulder Arts Mission. What are the dates for opening? And that's we email this stuff to do that. Thank you so much.

[55:05] Right? Anyone else. I'll just quickly mention that the this is Boulder, the Convention and Visitors Bureau for the first time in a few years they're going to put on the Fourth of July show at fulls and Field Yay, and instead of fireworks it's going to be a drone show. Yeah. anything else from commissioners or staff. No, not seeing anybody. I will adjourn this meeting.