September 2, 2025 — University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission Regular Meeting

Transcript

Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] for all to start the meeting. All right, we are now recording. Welcome to the University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission meeting. It is September 2nd, 2025, and I will call the roll. Trent Bush is not here. Tell Jones? Here. Amanda Powell is not here. Ted Rockwell? Here. Dane Anderson? Here. I will turn over the meeting to Chair Walkwell for procedural items. All right. We have one item under procedurals, and that is the approval of July 25 meeting minutes is submitted. Do I hear a motion? commercial. I have motion to approve it. Motion, and I'm going to give Dane the second motion. Okay, I second it. There you go. Let's, let's go ahead. Any discussion on this? I'm going to call for a vote. All those in favor of approving the meeting minutes from the July meeting.

[1:05] Alright. Are there any members of the public here? We'd like to participate. State anything for the Commission today? I do have someone online. If you would like to participate in public comment, please raise your hand at this time. Not seeing a race again. Okay. We will then move on. to the consent agenda. Were there anything in the consent agenda that commissioners had any questions about, or matters they'd like to speak to? note. done. We'll move on to an update on the Hill Boulder. Is Chief Hudson Memphrey among us? He's not here to give an update, but we wanted to keep the slot open for any questions that commissioners may have.

[2:07] Any questions that we may want to bring forward for to consider at a later date? No, no doubt. No. Yeah, I can't think of anything here. Love to know how… opening weekend with my mind has gone, the football game. We did a touring the other day. Right, yeah. Great, we will move on then, to, matters from staff. Item 6. Looks like we had a flexible loading zone update. Did you have Chris Heckram online? Hello, everybody. Chris Eglin here, Principal Project Manager with Transportation Mobility. I just want to give you a quick update on our work on curbside management in University Hill.

[3:00] I've been working with our GIS team, and we've… updated all of our existing conditions, and mapping in our GIS system. Then I have reviewed… with our principal traffic engineer, Devin Joslin, all the, data we received from our pilot that we did a couple years ago in the University of Hill with the flexible loading zones. Based on that analysis, he's thinking that probably 2 locations. One on 13th and one on college would probably be most appropriate. But we do want to do some site visits. I was trying to schedule kind of a walkabout with, Trent and Tel, who are our representatives from the Uni Hill Commission, but… basically because of school, coming back, move-in, busyness, and I think, Trent was also, away. We were unable to schedule that, so our next step is really to schedule that walkabout.

[4:06] With Trent and tell myself and our principal traffic engineer, so we can review those locations so that we can return and make a proposal. Given the delay in doing that, we may see a slight delay in getting any changes on the ground. We were hoping to have everything done by the end of September, but I think it would be, best practice for us to return to the Commission, in the next month with those proposed changes so they can be vetted by the Commission, and then have those installed as soon as possible after that. So, That is, the update. Unfortunately not a lot of work done. Our transportation operations team is, basically short 3 traffic engineers. So, it's been a… it's been difficult to, to get, kind of the time required to get on that, but, we will hope to get back on track, do the walkabout, and then return to this board with a proposal of any changes, for you to review.

[5:17] Chris, so, are you… you're indicating that you're planning on coming back to this commission in November, then? Yeah, I think, you know, I thought maybe… I didn't know if you had an October meeting. We have a… no, we don't, as just this commission meeting, we have a joint commission meeting, but I would doubt that we will present at that. Okay. In November, on November 4th. Okay. Well, maybe we'll want to do something ahead of time, maybe outside of the commission meetings, but still allow the commissioners to weigh in on any proposed, changes. You know, and that will be coming from our principal traffic engineer. But I did want to, you know, get the input from Trent and Tell before we move on to that next step, so…

[6:05] I think that makes a lot of sense, just trying to make sure we understand what the timing would be. If you need something in November, then… Yeah, we wouldn't want to wait until then, because I'm… I want to get into the downtown area by that time. I was really hoping to have everything installed by the end of September in UniHale, but we may just have a slight delay, but I'm still working with Trent and Tell on getting those Dates, with our traffic engineer, but it's really the availability of our traffic engineer that's the issue, just because they're so short-staffed right now. Hmm. Well, Dane, tell, do you have any unique further for Chris? No, just shoot me an email, let's get it scheduled up. Yep, for sure, no. Yeah, we kind of ran into the move-in week, and everybody's like, oh, real busy this week, but but yeah, well, I'll get that scheduled as soon as possible. Perfect. Alright, thank you all.

[7:01] Thank you. Have a great day. Dude. And so, Matt… I knew you needed a car for something. Here you are. It works out. It proved its worth. So I wanted to give you a brief update on the, progress on the Downtown Development Authority exploration. We have retained PUMA as our consultant, and they've already started to take some first steps Really early steps in just having conversations with a few stakeholders throughout the area of planning that we're expecting for the DDA to form an advisory group. And looks like that advisory group meeting's gonna happen September 16th, and it would be great to have, UCAMSI have representation on that group. It's gonna be a monthly commitment. They haven't decided exactly how that plays out. They'll wait till they bring the group together to find out what days and times are the best, but, we did send along in the memo some very scant details so you could start to think about representing you.

[8:06] I'm not sure that we need a vote on that. Or is it just a sort of nod? What would you prefer? It would be nice to have a formal… yeah, if you wanted… if you want to have someone represent, you can't see… there needs to be a formal action. Great. So, thank you for that. We're looking then for a motion and seconded vote on who would represent. You can't see a Diego. So, Nat, how… how long will this engagement go? Well, monthly for how long? It'll be monthly through the summer of next year. And that, lines up with the processing we need to take, before this gets, into the cycle to go on to the November ballot.

[9:01] there may be opportunities to engage after that point, but that won't be with the city team. There may be a campaign for the DDA, and there may be members of this group who continue on for that. But, so, you know, what I'm asking for specifically is now through next summer, but, there's other opportunities, and for other people who aren't be appointed to get engaged after that. Should we wait on that? Is there a possibility to do that? So, you certainly can. There's a possibility that you will miss two, maybe three of these meetings when I had the presentation. Is there a way to vote without being here at this meeting? Nope. You have to be at the meeting to vote, but there's nothing to say that you couldn't assign someone for this first two, three meetings, and then reconsider later. Oh, you can swap it later. Yeah, it's just a toilet. I mean, it's not my expertise, but… Do you… so, Dan… You can also vote for commissioners that are here.

[10:02] Because you have a car, you guys get to make decisions. That's right. I hear you, Chris, I hear you. We… just so you know, you don't necessarily need expertise in district formation or economic development or anything like that. We're just looking for someone to represent this body and have some insight into that. So, before we kind of get into that, I have a question about my term of service. This runs through next summer. I believe I cycle off… early this next year, or do I cycle off after this next year? You're… you would cycle up… you would cycle up when… when someone gets appointed to your seat. So, at the end of… it'd be at the beginning of 26, whenever the next person sign was in. So that would… that would… If there's a personal sign. Right. You can reapply, as well. It could. Make it worth my while. But, no, the reason I point that out is that, I would hate to

[11:15] elect someone to this role that isn't going to meet that. And this is a relatively important set of circumstances and decisions, so… Yeah. I'm going to end up kind of taking my name out of the hat, just because of that. I could do an interim between now and maybe in the year, seeing that we're missing two-fifths of this commission currently. But at the same time, I would encourage others to consider Participant. So… Dean, are you interested? Tell you an indicated interest, but mainly it sounded a little bit like you were just kind of like… Well, no, I mean, I'd be okay doing it. Like I said, I just don't have any experience in that field, and I'm just wondering if somebody like Danica would be better in that field than me. But if we can transfer it, and we need to vote right now, I'd hate to vote

[12:06] I think the main… the main issue is that the meeting's two weeks, and so having someone there for this initial meeting could be, like, an interim situation, is what I was thinking, and then we can go beyond that and re-elect somebody, potentially, to then. How offensive would it be for us to make a decision now to elect someone interim, and then in the meantime having a conversation with, say, someone like Dan? And say to them, hey, we really would prefer for you to be doing this. So, it's quite possible that Danica's already planned to be involved. Okay. So, Because she's working on a variety of similar types of initiatives, yeah. So, you could do… You could have up to two, right? You just can't have a quorum. So, you could do an interim with a blessing to Danica as well. She might already be planning the blessing.

[13:02] So… then you're… Two birds, one stone. Yeah. Okay, then I'm gonna make a motion. Dane, are you okay if I make a motion here? Sure. Okay. wanted to make sure you had a voice there. I kind of cut you up before you got a chance to… Oh, that's okay. All right, I'm gonna make a motion to appoint Tel Jones, Danica. Thank you. To serve, on the DDA Authority, committee that is meeting starting on September 16th. Okay, I'll second that. Sweet. Right. Discussion. I think that that makes sense to us. Now, if we end up electing these two individuals, let's say Dana is like, I absolutely can't do it. Is that a problem? Or if Tel is like, you know what, I attended the first meeting, really, you should just be sending Danica. This isn't, like, that kind of vote, right? We're basically appointing a couple people, if one of them signs they don't want to do it anymore, it's no big deal, right? Yeah. It is easily remed…

[14:15] Dr. Exactly. Easily remedied, yes. It's just making sure that there's public acknowledgement, that a quorum of… of… the commission said. These are our reps. So, excellent. Thank you, Chris. I appreciate the guidance there. All right, any further discussion on the motion on the table? Let's go ahead and call for a vote. All those in favor? Thank you very much. Thank you, Matt, for bearing with us. I would appreciate that. Things could be tricky. Speaking of tricky things, your 2026 budget recommendations… Awesome. Great, so I'm gonna have, Melissa, if you could kindly share the screen for me. Ellie Labonte conveniently took a vacation this week.

[15:10] Chris Scott is well, acquainted with the budget. He was instrumental in doing the actual building of the budget, so I'm glad he can be here to present to you all, but myself and others will be happy to help answer questions. on the details, I guess. Awesome. So, hi everyone, if I haven't met you, my name is Chris Scott, I'm the Budget Analyst for Community Vitality, and today I'm going to share with you all the 2026 CMO City Manager's Office recommended budget for community vitality, as well as, the UGID fund. So the purpose of this presentation today is to present to you all the recommended budget, and for our staff, like Chris mentioned, to provide any support on questions you might have, as well as ultimately understand your support of the CMO's recommended budget.

[16:05] I will work through these slides, and then at the end, I've left some time for questions, so if you wouldn't mind holding off on any questions, until the end of my presentation, that would be great. And then, ultimately, after our question and feedback time, I do have some recommended, motion language, for The 2026 budget. Melissa, next slide, please. So, for our agenda today, I'm gonna walk through some key accomplishments for the Hill. I'm also gonna work through some, I think some helpful budget definitions that'll be helpful for you all in guiding through… through everything here. I'll then jump into CMO's recommended budget, as well as our CIP plan, and then I'll go into more detail on kind of a three-year comparison of UGID specifically. And then, like I said, I'll leave time for, a bit about, like, kind of what's next, and,

[17:09] Any questions or feedback that you all might have for us? Next slide, Melissa. So, some key accomplishments. We had, the On the Rise Fest, which brought live music and entertainment to the district. We also had our, refreshed crosswalk paintings and creative murals on the hill, with our public art and district vitality teams. Next slide, please. And then we have everyone's favorite, big-belly trash cans that were brought to the hill. I think these were really cool and brought a lot more access to trash and recycling for those on the hill. Next slide, please. And then, finally, we improved our district connections between the Hill and downtown with sidewalk upgrades, as well as the park-to-park shuttle routing that was expanded along Broadway and the Hill.

[18:03] Great. So with this year's accomplishments, I'm just going to kind of jump into moving into some language that I think is helpful for you all in understanding the budget, and some items that I'm going to bring up shortly. Next slide, please. So the first items I just wanted to go through with you all are cost allocations, internal services, and transfers. So, cost allocations are like a transfer, but they are typically for very specific and defined services that are funded by the General Fund. So this includes services from things like, city attorney's office, city clerk, City Manager's office, or IT, etc. Our internal services are services that are provided from facilities and fleet. Those typically also include our, you know, things like our replacement funds, our equipment replacement, our vehicle replacement funds.

[19:00] We also have central software costs that are shared across the city, those are included there. As well as all of our computers that we have here in Community Vitality, those share a computer replacement fund. Finally, transfers. So, transfers are simply a revenue and an expense between two different funds. So, a very clear and easy example for this group, would be the general fund transfer to You did. That is considered a transfer. And so just in accounting language, this would show up as an expense in the general fund and a revenue within our district fund. Next slide, please. Great. So, next are reserves. So reserves are a type of savings account that stays within the fund, but it's typically for emergency uses. And… or if there are any revenue shortfalls, things like that. They tend to change from year to year, as they're based on at least 16.7% of the next year's operating budget.

[20:02] So the thing that you're probably most familiar with are operating reserves, and that 16.7% for operating reserves comes from that it's 2 months' worth of operating expenses. So, for example, the 2025 operating reserve was simply based on, 2 months' worth of 2026 operating expenses. There are also a couple other types of reserves, so we have sick and vacation time reserves. Those tend to try and, offset any, you know, employees that might separate from the organization for things like FMLA or extended, absences. These are not… technically required in a fund, but it's just something to keep in mind. There are also other reserves that City Council, could… or staff could identify that they recommend be included, in a fund as well. Next slide, please.

[21:00] And just a reminder about what a fund financial is. So a fund financial is a document that shows, basically, an overview of our current financial… of the current financial status, as well as a, A projected outlook of a fund, so it includes things like the actual reserves, which we tend to use the word sources, as well as expenses, which we use the term useless. From the previous year and the current year's adopted and advised budget, the recommended budget for the following year, and like I said, an outlook that we use projected revenues and expenses for the next 5 years. Great. So now for the… for the fun stuff, I'm gonna head into the City Manager's 2026 recommended budget. So first, I'm just gonna pop into, our recommended budget for community vitality. And then I'll move into our CIP, and then a little bit more details about UGIT specifically. So to start, this is our overall community vitality

[22:07] recommended budget. You can see the total budget for 2026 is just under $24.7 million. I've separated it out between sources on the left side, so those are our revenues, and on the right side are our uses. So our sources include taxes, so things like property tax, use taxes, you know, there's a whole bunch of different types that could be included there, but basically taxes out there. Our investments, which are… which are just our, interest earnings on our… on our funds. And then our products, which include a whole range of things, including parking permits, leases and rents, our enforcement from our parking garages, things like that. So, the right side just shows our recommended budget split out from our personnel budget and our non-personnel budget.

[23:04] And it's broken out by, each of our work groups. I think the important thing to note here is that, parking enforcement, there are… there's no budget there for us this year, as parking enforcement has moved to planning and development services. So their budget will be included with their… And then the other thing to note is that on our sources side, you'll note that we have $0 in transfers for 2026. I'll go into more detail shortly about what that means specifically for YouTube. Awesome. Great, so now we'll jump into our capital improvement plan. So our CIP is a 6-year budget from 2026 to 2031. Just some important things to highlight for this commission. There are no capital dollars for UGID next year that we,

[24:03] get solder approved. And the important ones for this year are, definitely the, our garage restoration efforts. So you'll see we have our spruce garage. We have $4.6 million approved or recommended for that. We also have our St. Julian garage in 2026 that's going to start. Our Pearl Street Mall refresh with the upcoming anniversary of, the Pearl Street Mall, is there in 2026 as well. And then we'll also be starting work on improving, electronic signage in the Boulder Junction garages, so that's there under For $300,000. And then finally, we have our public art dollars through CCRS. It's a little complicated, but I'll do my best to try and explain what that means. So, the tax sets aside, it's based off of a sales tax, and the tax sets aside 10% of its revenue for non-profit projects, and of that remaining

[25:05] 90%, the city sets aside 1% for public art installations, for capital projects, that are funded by that same tax. Great. Next slide, please. So now I'm just going to jump into UGID specifically, and a 3-year comparison of the fund. So, for the 3-year comparison, I have here 2024, 2025, and 2026. there's a few terms I kind of want to fill you all in on, just so that you kind of understand. So, The 2026 recommended budget is the budget that is currently being recommended by CMO. An adopted budget, so 2025, adopted, is the budget that was ultimately approved and adopted by City Council. The 2025 revised is just an update of the 2025 adopted that's just based on

[26:06] Updated projections, so you can see, like, our investment, investments went up, because we projected… we had better data going in, knowing that we would have a higher, return on our, investments. And then the other thing you'll note that's important for you all to understand for the revised budget, revised budgets also include, carryover dollars from the previous year that were set aside and encumbered. So you'll see that if you're looking at 2025 adopted versus 2025 revised, in that non-personnel line, so non-personnel being our operating budget, it went up significantly on that side, and that's just because Those are mostly, dollars that we had already encumbered in the previous year, and were just carried over into the next year. So, be,

[27:01] The table is broken down, like I mentioned before, sources and uses, so sources being our revenues, our investments, products, taxes, and transfers, and then our uses being split out from personnel and non-personnel. And then we also have our capital dollars, and then our transfers and cost allocations, which I had mentioned earlier, are typically involving things like the, the admin transfer, which is a shared, amount based on the, the fund balance, and those are included there as well. So, just some important highlights to capture for 2026. You will note that there are, there are no transfers, being planned, or that were part of the recommended budget for 2026. Cmo had recommended an ongoing reduction in the general fund transfer, to Fugid as part of this budget. So that is included there. And then also you can see that there, we had not planned on appropriating any capital dollars of 2026 as well.

[28:08] Next slide, please. So, just some highlights. I am gonna… I'll go back to that last screen, because I know that'll be the one folks want to have questions about, but, just wanted to go over a little bit of a three-year comparison and some important… numbers. So, like I mentioned, before, we have the different types of budgets, and it's helpful to mostly either look at those in, like, an apples-to-apples comparison, so either looking at, like, 2024 revised, which is missing an S, versus, you know, 2025 revised. However, it's sometimes nice to look at something like 2024 revised budget versus the 2024 actuals. So the actuals were what we actually did, actually spent. or received, money from. So, it really helps us understand how our projection performance was, as well as our expense assumptions.

[29:09] So you can see that, when we were looking at 2024 revised versus actuals, our revenue projections came in 11% higher than where we anticipated, while our expense assumptions were 13% under where we anticipated. The other one that I think is useful to look at is the 2025 adopted, which is the budget that was adopted from City Council, versus the 2026 CMO recommended, which we now have. And those revenue projections, are… are 55% lower than the previous year, primarily due to that general fund, transfer. And then our expense assumptions were also 55% below the previous year, and that's primarily due to the capital dollars.

[30:01] Great. So, next slide, please. And, that wraps up my presentation, so I will now open the floor for questions and feedback from this commission. And as a reminder, once that's done, I do have some suggested motion language as it pertains to supporting the CMO's recommended budget. After this. So, thank you. Nope. Melissa, could you go… yeah. Oh, there's also one thing I forgot to mention at the beginning. I had, made some corrections to some of these numbers, in this, in this presentation compared to what you to what was shared in your packets. So Ellie is going to be resending the slides with the updated numbers after this meeting. Excuse me.

[31:01] Does anyone have any questions? Lord. Sorry, I… Chris, Chris, yeah. There's… there's so many Chris's, you can just, yeah. Chris. Dane? Well… What do you think you can do that. Why do transfers and cattle get removed? We'll figure that out, for sure. So, as part of the City Manager's recommended budget for all funds, including Parks and Recreation and KJID, in order to close the budget gap. That was estimated for 2026. all general fund transfers, or most general fund transfers, have been eliminated from the recommended budget for analysis and situation. KJED, Parks and Rec, yeah. Okay. All, if not both. And then is that the same with transfers?

[32:00] That's… that is true, so that's… Okay, that's transpose. And then capital? Capital, Probably because of the fund health, we had, entertained the possibility of, pursuing a capital investment for the 14th Street lot, but that, that, proposal did not carry forward. And that's the only thing that we had suggested. you would move forward with. Since that was declined, there's no… investment plan. Okay. in the packet, there are several numbers that are highlighted in orange. Yeah, I'm just curious. It, I think when that presentation was sent, those were highlighted because we were updating the numbers, and for some reason they were sent as part of the packet, so maybe that's the only idea. I spent a minute trying to figure out why they were special.

[33:12] I don't have a question as much as an observation that city staff have heard, and that this commission has heard from before. This budget's upside down in Eugen, and cannot continue, this way. And, I understand the city manager's, the pressure that the city is under, and the city manager's recommendation to not do transfers, I would hope that that could be something that gets reconsidered. Huh. If one looks at the recommended reading links. The projected 5-year budget for Eugene is dire. We end up below Recommended, reserves within just a few years. Can you tell me what you're doing before I.

[34:01] there was one opportunity to sell an asset in Eugen, and that gave this particular district a good reserve to allow for investment in that community, which will now be spent on keeping the lights on. Wow. That is something that we have learned about on this commission for several years, and now we're here again. I would also note that within the last 10 years, UGID was getting a transfer of supposed to double what this current transfer is for the 25 budget season. $450,000 in 2018. And that going to zero from $450,000 is a significant problem for this particular disability. So, if we're going to, as a district, continue to spend money in the way that it's being spent, we're going to have to figure something out as a city to be able to make sure that this doesn't just completely run into that.

[35:08] If one looks at the projected budget for 2030, Which doesn't, you know, seems like it could be a long way away. It's only 5 years out. The reserve, would be at just over half a million dollars. It's currently about $3.9 million. By the next year, it'd be down to $32,000. Oh. It's a long way of saying that If voters do not approve the DBA, which I think a lot of people have their hopes up on. If voters don't approve the DDA, Eugene is in a bad shape. We are going to have to figure something out to ensure that that area of the city is actually being funded appropriately to do the basins. from the city's Wilson. So that's my statement.

[36:03] My question to city staff would be, do you have any recommendations or any insight on what the 27 recommended item? Is there any possibility that the transfer would be something for this district in particular that could be unfroze. What are the politics of the situation currently beyond the 26th season, which I know is fraught with probably emotional? Hmph. Thanks for the question. So, on a high level, part of the challenge is the number of dedicated funds that exist in the city. As a… only fund that the city manager has the ability to be more flexible with is the drip open. So that's part of the strategy. Where's… We're saying that transfer ending for multiple times. you correctly spoke in that, the DDA is… is…

[37:04] The community and what the organization is looking toward as a different way to meet needs beads in both the Hill area and downtown. I would not envision The 2027 budget being proposed any differently than this. Hmm. Because the vote for the DDA won't happen until November of 2026, after the budget for 2027 has already been established, so… All good questions. Certainly, Nothing that you've mentioned is… is… News to us, and it's all tied into what we've been saying as well about the management of this fund. And… Being subjected to all the same, challenges that the rest of the city has, this is where the City Manager Budgets land at.

[38:09] Wow. You don't have to… You don't have to vote to, recommend approval. It's up to you all to determine whether or not you're… That's the message you want to send to City Council as the Board of Directors of each other. But, this is what is going to be presented today. It's funny. Dean, I want to give you a voice if you had any questions at this point, too, before I… I've got another thing that I'm working on. One… one question I have isn't regarding investments, the investment… number, for… let's just take the 25 revised and 26 revised amended. I see $116,000, $117,000 roughly, and then

[39:06] close to 118 in 26. Does that number reflect a return on the, reserve. Like, you should have? Yeah, it's the entire… basically the balance that is in the bank, which includes the reserve as well. Okay. So, another statement then, It would seem that that is the largest source of income for you. And so, spending down that balance Makes… Little to no sense. If we're talking about something that isn't just a year or maybe two emergency. And so, I would like to put a very fine point on that. Go ahead. If this is the condition that we're in now, then… This is not a feasible financial situation for this district. I know that I've said that in a different way in my original statement, but it needs to be said out loud. The number one source of income for Eugen is the return on the reserve that it currently has.

[40:19] We could… we could look at other areas of the city where the amount of money that it would take to balance this budget is what they're spending doing. I don't… I don't want to minimize, but small potatoes. All right, that's… that's my understanding after a question. Dana. Well, I agree with all of that. This does not look good for… the Hill? Do we… as a commission, not approve this, and do they re-look at this? Is that how that would work, or what is our… what are our options to kind of…

[41:00] protest. Well, there would be multiple things. I… we're currently… let's try to reserve where we are for Questions and comments for staff, We can talk about remedies, or whatever. Gotcha. Decide to start voting, illness. Do you have… do you want to form that in the form of a question? I don't know that I have any questions for staff. It's all kind of spelt out here, what they're proposing, which isn't great for the Hill. So, no, I don't have any questions for the staff, per se. Okay. I think we have… We understand what the situation is. Why don't we go ahead and move forward on the slides here. Do you have recommended language? I do, yeah.

[42:08] Suggested motion language is a motion to recommend City Council serving as the Board of Directors for the University Hill General Improvement District adopt the City Manager's 2026 recommended budget appropriating money to defray expenses and liabilities pertaining to the University Hill General District State Department. Amen.

[43:04] Alright, I'm gonna make a motion to… I'm going to make a motion to accept the suggested language. We'll hear a second. I'll second that. Alright, we're gonna have discussion about this. So, Dane, you asked the question, what… what else could be done here? I mean, here's the thing. We… the three of us could vote on this now, and if we accept it, it goes forward as… as is, and we recommend Moving this forward with this language with no other kind of comment associated with it, which is fine. We could also just deny that if we wanted to. We get all three, or two, or two of us to vote against it, and it fails. We could also amend the motion to…

[44:03] Change the language, or add a disclaimer, or something along those lines. We wanted to. Here's the thing I'm gonna say. I don't know that there's any changing where we're going in terms of the city budget. This most likely will be approved as is without much, fanfare, where people Considering other options, I think this is where we are, as far as I can… Yep. That doesn't mean to say that we don't have a voice in voicing what the University Hills needs are in sending forward the recommendation to Council. So, in making the motion, what I'm doing is allowing us to discuss this matter. Whether or not we accept this motion is up to us. We can also make another motion. We deny this one, and…

[45:00] make another motion, which has other language in it. So, putting all that out on the table for the commissioners to consider. Any thoughts? Well, I think you're correct. This is probably going to be adopted, so… Maybe it's best that we send language along with our, you know, approval. What the needs of… the Hill are, so at least it's publicly known that we're… Trying to… Trying to help. Yeah. 3 is probably gonna get pushed here. quite a platform.

[46:02] Yeah, I don't know that I would necessarily frame it as fighting back, as much as just making sure the concern is very… I made a lot of statements before in the hopes that it makes them into, you know, meeting minutes. Yeah. what meeting minutes are. Message to Council is a different portion of this is a different thing. So, it does give us that opportunity. If… then I… I will… I'm gonna withdraw my motion. Motion was no longer on the table. Someone else would like to make a motion to accept this, that's great. We can go ahead and do that, but I'm withdrawn by motion. Why are you doing that? Because I think that in order to be able to, send what we would need to City Council, we're going to have to amend this.

[47:03] F. Alright. I think it might be as simple as a… I think we need to come up with a kind of statement, a single Time sentence, regarding… Use its fund balance. And the spending that it preserves is being unsustainable. So… Willie, are you ready? Ma'am, I was actually pulling up, Okay, alright.

[48:01] Given that… The 2025 UGID Commission priorities include the near- and long-term fiscal resiliency of UGID, We urge City Council to consider. future years… General Fund Balance. to Nugent. It is the only fiscal Only way to maintain fiscal resiliency. It's a little sloppy sentence. Yeah, Ellie can read that to him, please.

[49:00] No, I don't have all of it. Given that the 2025… answer the priorities. And I have included… I think, to the near term and long term. I urge City Council to consider future years of the general… I was gonna… Okay. The year and long-term fiscal Resiliency. of the Eugent Fund. Good morning. Well, let me… so, we have to vote on it and say, this is the thing. I want to get it right. Who's sharing the screen right now? We get the slides down, and this… and the… Working document. Thank you, Chris.

[50:02] Here we go. Given that this 2025 We can't see priorities to hold near-term and long-term fiscal resiliency of the UGID fund. Is that the correct way of saying that. We urge City Council to consider future years To consider in future years, to… reinstate, let's do… in future years, to reinstate the general fund Transferred. To you, Eugene. Thank you. The only way to, yeah, to maintain any, yeah, to maintain fiscal, resiliency. For… the district.

[51:02] Okay, so… We urge. How do people feel about that phrase? We're urging City Council to consider, in future years. Is that too strong? You want to keep it there. I like that. Okay. Right. Please read through this, the three of us, the three-fifths of us. Given that the trade-off approach. Dude. Instead of a picture.

[52:01] Alright, so… Now to figure out how to turn a corner into, emotion of a previous thing. Ellie, is there a way of, like, pulling… here, a cognitive? Cheered. talking to Ellie like she's a Star Trek bot or something. Don't just read my mind. Make it so! annoying. Alright. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out if we need to add anything to the beginning of the motion to basically say, having said that, or something along those lines. the Commission approved. The Commission has made a motion to So you're talking about a statement.

[53:00] Put the statement first. I'm thinking we put that statement first. And then we end up approving. We could do it the other way around, too. We could make the motion. Which then has a statement at the end of it. Right. There you go. Thank you, yes, perfect. We could do it in that order, and it almost looks fun. Yeah, it makes sense that way. Yep. Okay. Dan, do you have any opinions about that? What do you see? Nope, I like it the way you guys have it up there now. I think that makes sense. Yeah.

[54:00] I'm going to make a motion to approve the statement that we see here on the screen that reads, motion to recommend City Council serving as the Board of Directors for University of Health General Improvement District, adopt the City Managers 2026 recommended budget appropriated money to defer expenses and liabilities pertaining to the University Hill General Proving District Fund. Given that the 2025 CAMC priorities include the near-term and long-term fiscal resilience of the UGID fund, we urge City Council to urge to consider in future years, reinstating the general fund transfer to UGID as the only way to maintain fiscal resiliency in the district. In the second. Second. Second. Any discussion? Discussed the hell out of the stuff. There you go. Yeah, right? A good thing? Yep, I'm good. All right, I'd like to all vote on the motion that's on the floor. All those in favor of that language, say aye. Aye. Aye.

[55:01] Alright. I really appreciate all your patience there. I don't know, you know, what are we gonna do? I do feel like there's… a moment in time here that I think we all understand the… Difficulties the city is facing, but at the same time, this particular area of the city has been… Underwater for such a long time. that calling it an emergency, the emergency here is, you know, kind of ridiculous for you. It's… we're… we've been there for so long, and the city has had to subsidize what's going on for so long. That this… this can continue for this particular district. Especially not past due. just becomes… unsustainer. I really appreciate Craig and patience. Thank you. Alright. That moves us on to the, Draft Commission Summit Agenda Review. Chris Jones. So, to put in your packet was a draft agenda that we have put together with a number of topics.

[56:07] That we feel… pertain to most or all of the GIDs that Planning Vitality manages. Including some topics around the future of the DDA, and where, We might be headed. contingent on how things fit next year. So… We didn't spend a ton of time on this. We just know these are… these are topics that, are coming up quick for us. We do have some, information that we'll want to share with all of the missions. In many ways, it's kind of, you know, many birds with one stone, and… But we're still very flexible. This is our first… we're meeting with DMC next week, and then Bulgar Junction after that. But if there's something on here that you're wondering about or curious about.

[57:09] or if the time, the amount of time, from 3 to 9 p.m, for those that need to go to the, the racial equity, optional item, we could also take a look at scaling back the number of hours as well. This date has moved around a few times, too, I believe. Yeah, it's a long session, 6 hours, yeah. So… For okay, because I already end early? Do we end early? Yeah, so the… the… The Advancing Racial Equity, the role of government training. not every… if you've already been through it, I think, Dane, you just went through it. Yes. market orientation, it's being offered for commissioners who have not yet taken it.

[58:02] As part of their orientation, but I would say, you know, Ted, as you… if you are not planning to reapply… well, even if you do reapply, you'll have an opportunity, and if you stay on, you'd have an opportunity to take the training as part of the orientation next year. So, just want to, Put that out there. Yeah. The one… the piece that I have wondered about, and I don't know if this is… It would seem that it would be a part of this agenda, because it's so specifically around where the DEA may be going. Is what the communication strategy may be, knowing that we're facing the voters in a year. It seems like that's a really essential component. If… as I said earlier in the meeting, if the voters don't approve it, then we're C, with this recommendation. And so, making sure the city is making a compelling case for why UDA, the general public, is that included in one of this, or…

[59:12] So, the topic that will be most pertinent to where the city's headed in that regard would be the academic development strategy. update. With some mention of the DDA, but we'll still be in the midst of the technical meeting, so that will all need to be, worked out in preparation for what we're anticipating, anticipated, a touch with City Council in May of next year. that's when we will have, you know, crossed our T's and dotted our I's on all of that work. And then, as you heard from Matt earlier, once, the item moves to the ballot, then we have to go silent. We'll be actually relying on Our external partners to carry the message. From there on out.

[60:01] So, a lot of work to happen on that front. not gonna be really, a place to bake and share, in October. That makes sense. Jane, do you have anything going on? No, I don't have any questions about that. how are we doing on RSVPs for this commission, on this one? Did everyone… was everyone able to confirm participation for this, do you know, or… For the 20th? Yeah. I got, like, 12 responses out of 15 saying that that one was a big date, so I'm hoping for pretty high, turnout. What about ours? Oh, my God. I think… I think everyone's… Yeah, that's what I was curious about, is I'd love to know if there's someone I need to nudge.

[61:02] Oh, yeah. Okay. Alright, well, I think that that's that, Chris, if you have anything else there. Now, if you're generally comfortable with the direction that it's headed, it could continue to be refined and changed, but just want to make sure that there's nothing that you were really hoping to get out of the time that you're not seeing on the list. as we slow by those plans quite a bit. the one… the one thing that I… I… just… just occurs to me now is introductions. 20 minutes may not be long enough. Just because the numbers that you just said, 12, 15 people, it's a lot. Yeah. And if we're talking about a group of people coming together that are going to be working together in the future, introductions may end up taking more time than that, and it's such a, you know, key thing, but… It does seem like that's the opportunity, right, of creating synergies among commissions themselves.

[62:07] Thank you. Sure. Thanks for your coordination. Let's, you know. It's a big, kind of big deal, you know, having all these commissions come together. Doesn't happen every day. One day in October. Alright. Alright, well, it's back to me. The bi-monthly check-in recap. Well, recap is going to be relatively brief. We primarily talked about the DEA, and what was happening on that front. There was a little bit of conversation about the limelight's impending opening. Danica was on the call, and she knows a little bit about what's going on with the limeline, so we have that as well. There was a preview of the budget conversation we just came through as well. Don't eat it.

[63:01] Which, yeah, that was helpful. I think beyond that, it was… there wasn't much else. This wasn't there. That's right. Right? I thought I missed two times a bill, but… did you miss this last time? I don't think I… I think I was there. You were there? I was there. I'm sorry. I was wrong. Alright, they all blend together for me as well. I really appreciate them. I'm very grateful to you, Chris, for putting them on our agenda, because it is… it is an important thing. We are moving things forward in those meetings, but they are informal, and so… The fact that my recaps end up feeling more informal is due to that nature. All right, any other matters from Commissioners? Anything anyone wanted to bring up? In this moment in the meeting. No.

[64:01] Okay, just a reminder that we have the next bi-monthly check-in meeting coming up on the 14th, it's you and I tell. And then we have that all commissions, summit meeting happening, as we'll discuss it on the 20th, and our next Commission meeting will be 4 p.m. on November 4th. Yep. Anything else for the order? I would like to add, it's just… we don't see it on the agenda, but the Joint Commission agenda setting meeting. Just want to make sure that I have chair, and vice chair, and… I'm pulling up my calendar now. It has the data right off the top of their head. I think it is October… Second, yes. At 1. Got it. Yeah, just want to make sure that's online. Great. The chair and, Vice Chair Commission, we all get together, discuss the agenda for… Okay.

[65:01] Nice. All right, anything else for the go of the order, as my old boss used to say? I should say that. No? Good? Meeting adjourned. Hi, Dean! Bye, guys!