May 13, 2024 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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[0:00] Recording. Write to your Handbook. Thank you very much. It is 601. On Monday, May thirteenth, I am calling the May 2024, Tab meeting to order. We have a quorum of 3 tab members at the moment. I know that trainee, will Orton was not able to join us this month, but hopefully, Jen Oakes will will join us soon. But let's go ahead and get started. And let people in. And while we're waiting, maybe for Jen to join. We can go over the technical rules. Alright! I will be sharing screens. Let me know if you're able to see the slides. See it. We are pleased to have you join us to strike a balance between meaningful, transparent engagement and online security. The following rules would be applied to this meeting. This meeting has been called to conduct the business of the city of Boulder. Activities that disrupt delay or otherwise interfere with the meeting are prohibited. The time for speaking is limited to 3 min.

[1:01] No person shall speak except when recognized by myself, and no person shall speak longer than the time allotted. Each person shall register to speak at the meeting, using the person's real name. Any person believed to be using a name other than the one they're commonly known by will not be permitted to speak. Please use the raise hand function to be recognized for public comment. If you're on your phone, you will need to press, Star 9 to raise your hand and star 6 to unmute. Nobody will be permitted, except for city officials, employees, and invited speakers and presenters, all others will participate by voice. Only. The person presiding at the meeting should enforce these rules by muting anyone who violates any rules. The QA function is enabled, it will be used for individuals to communicate with me. It will be used for technical and all my platform related questions only if an attendee attempts to use Q. And a. For any other reasons, the technical host has the right to disable that individuals access to the chat only the host and individuals designated by the host will be permitted to share their screen during the meeting.

[2:04] Thank you. Thank you very much. With that we will move to consideration and approval of the April 2024 min. Does anyone have any revisions. corrections. I'm not sure how much it matters. But in agenda, item 4. Under moving to elect you as chair. I believe it was I who made that motion, and not yourself, so. And nominate myself. I I moved that that you'd be chair. And I think Mike seconded that. So if we just want to correct that, I'm not sure how important. I appreciate that to avoid appearance of self dealing so. Excuse me. Sorry. I'm looking. Item 4 B. One. I could share this screen. I have chair do him. Nominated by kitchen, seconded by Wilmington accepted, is that incorrect.

[3:14] Well, it was the motion below that motion to elect. Hmm. Museum as tab Chair and Willerton as vice chair, and then I I mean, perhaps, that maybe I only move to. I'll nominate her. I'm not sure, but I think it. I I. It. It wasn't. It wasn't my O mount motion. I think it was mine. I think I'm the one who moved to to make Teila trip. Yeah, thank you. All correct. Yeah, thank you. Okay with that change. Is there any other discussion or corrections of the minutes? Not I. Seeing none. I'll entertain a motion to approve. I move to approve the minutes. Thank you. Acted. I'll second that.

[4:01] and we all approve. Hands up, please. All 3 of us. Okay. thank you very much, Meredith, as usual. Nice job. and unless someone else can see people I cannot see, I still don't see Jen Oakes on here. So we will. Table item 4 for the moment and see if if she appears, and as soon as she does someone I don't know wave her electronic hands wildly so we can swear her in, and she can begin to participate as as an official member, the Port great. So already we are at a public comment. Then any member of the public wishing to chime in. You can raise your little electronic hand, or I think it's Star 9 on the phone Veronica taught us. do we have anyone wishing to speak to Tab this evening.

[5:04] It looks like we have one raised hand. Lynn, if you could confirm, you're able to speak. Hang. I always wait because I want to be the last word. and I. Well, you're first and last this time. Right. Well, so far, maybe I'll provoked something. But I guess what I want to talk about today. The same old, same old, in a way. But I had my Fanny pack somehow fell out of my pan year yesterday, or something. Ha! I don't know what how this could happen. And I was on my way to a cello concert and French pianist up at St. Andrews. and I was in Central Boulder and when I got up there I went to my pan year, and my Fanny pack was gone with my social security card and everything. So

[6:04] So! And the concert was starting right then, and I'd been waiting and waiting for this concert. It was so disappointing. So I rushed back to where I'd been at 6 13 walnut, whereas where I'm trying to stop a demolition of the little house between 2 condos, and I thought it fell off when it was kind of warm, and I took off my shirt, wasn't there? Went home, I thought. Oh, I never put it in. My tenure at home wasn't at home. and I never go to the front door because I never drive my car. But the policeman had her card there. Someone had turned it in. They didn't ask who and where, so it'll always be a mystery to me, you know, so I can't improve this, but I'm thankful I have it, but in any case it when I was so I rushed. It was by then. It was just coming to 5 o'clock, and I rushed up there to see the very end of the concert which it had ended when I got there, and the policeman was coming in to the parking lot to give me my Fanny pack as I went in, cause I called them and said, Well, I'm going to my concert, that's what matters. And and that was really cool, that it was a See you please, too, and I so I really don't understand. So

[7:24] So my point was, when I went there. It took me like 2 or 3 times going through the lights. This is why I don't drive my car aside from the fact that I got a fat button. I like to ride my bike. I mean, I need to get some exercise. Besides, you know. being on the on the Internet all the time writing letters to you and stuff so. And it was just so frustrating, just waiting through all these stoplights just to get that short place. And it reminds me of the fact that we've got 5 count of 5 affordable housing

[8:03] food deserts coming up. There's Boulder Junction that's already there. Diagonal plaza, 2 and gunbarrel, and then now another one another, one boulder housing partners across from the cemetery at Iris. And then we've got that one out at Arapaho. That is a complete island, you know, and it changes the dynamics of driving around town and the congestion. And I'm sorry I have to go. But yeah, it's I know it's beyond your control, you know, and it's just the the transportation board. But it it really makes your job hard. Thanks, Lynn, I appreciate that, and I'm glad to hear the system worked for you a little bit this week. I don't see anyone else. With their hand raised. Neither do I.

[9:01] Going once, going twice. Fantastic. Thank you, members of the public, for tuning in telling us what you're thinking. Let's move on. Oh, good! This is the cip update. Next item 6 so new members and I know mike has already reached out with some particular interest on on this subject, but we are at the part of this stuff that happens every year about the capital improvement program, and Garrett is here to help us understand. This is the first of probably 3 updates specifically on this item. But this is kind of how the sausage gets made on the big projects, so we'll have the the first inner introduction here. With Garrett. We'll revisit this topic again probably next month, and then we may or may not finalize the cip. Well, Garrett's gonna tell us, but it may or may not happen in July or August. One of those 2. It's likely when we're gonna finish our work on this. So it takes a little bit of remembering where we were last time, because it's just a big big topic to to get your heads around.

[10:09] Okay, Garrett. I'll hand it over to you. Thank you, Tila. It warms my heart that you started off by saying good. It's time to talk about the cip. I know I've I've learned. I like the hard way. It's actually, really, really important. It is no offense, not not the juiciest part of being on this board, but it is very important. Yes. Well, great glad to be here this evening and We've been having a few technical difficulties I wanted to see. Have we been able to promote Karen Steiner to a panelist. I wanted to introduce Karen to you all. Let me go ahead and do that. She should be able to. Alright. Karen, are you able to unmute yourself.

[11:06] Yes, I was just able to. Great. So I wanted to introduce Karen to you all. Karen is our new transportation, senior financial analyst, and is a critical part of helping us to bring together the annual budget and capital improvement program. And she's going to be here making sure that all the financial information that we present is correct with our budget and cip development practices and standards, and so just wanted her to become familiar with you all as she'll be joining us throughout the Cip development over the course of the next few meetings. So I, for the record am the capital projects manager for the Transportation and Mobility Department, and I'm also joined by Brian Wiltshire, who is a civil engineering manager on our team, a project manager that's been with the city for 12 years. So hopefully, Brian, you are also in a place that you can speak when it's time for you to come online.

[12:08] So we are here to talk about what the capital improvement program is and how it differs from the annual budget, how it's funded. Then we'll provide an overview of the projects and programs that reside in the capital improve program. And then what our next steps will be as we go through the process this spring and early summer. So the capital improvement program is how we bring to fruition all the variety of projects and major programs that you see happening around the city. And I relate capital improvement program to a a homeownership. So you might think of our annual operating budget which funds things such as filling potholes and snow response. General street maintenance and traffic operation. Those are the sorts of things that are covered in your homeowner budget, such as like grocery, shopping and sweeping and

[13:06] removing the snow from your own sidewalk and so forth. But when it comes time to do a major replacement, maybe you need to replace the plumbing. Or maybe you need to replace the roof, or maybe it's time to do an addition to the home, because you need more space. Those are examples of what would be a capital expense. And so when we go beyond routine maintenance of our system to major capital maintenance, or when we want to make an enhancement to our system. It falls to the capital improvement program to cause that to occur. And so we make investments in our system because we have billions of dollars of assets that are existing, and we've got ambitious ideas and visions and goals that we want to carry out and bring to to fruition for our community projects and programs such as the core arterial network and the vision 0 action plan are all really critical goals that we've got. And the capital puma program is the primary mechanism by which that will happen.

[14:08] And so we make these investments consistent with the 2019 transportation master plan, where we've categorized them into levels of high medium and low. And so the first Hi is, we want to make sure that we are taking care of what we've got since we've spent significant dollars over the decades putting in place what we have. We need to make sure that we're taking care of that as a baseline. Then we want to a A and also consistently with that, we want to make sure that we're investing and vision 0 and travel safety cause, that's all. Also a paramount goal of our department. Then we want to look at making operational improvements and enhancements of the transit pedestrian, a bicycle system. We previously would have put the neighborhood speed management into this category. It's called out explicitly, and the 2019 Tnp, so that's why it's identified here. That program has been put on on. Pause,

[15:05] and then, finally, the the lowest category is quality of life investments such as noise, mitigation. So we're spending the great majority of our time and effort in that high priority. As we talk about the capital improvement program. we also have the city's sustainability, equity and resiliency framework, where we want to make sure that the investments that we're putting into transportation and mobility infrastructure consistent with the overarching city-wide goals that are consistent with the Sare framework. And so we want all of our investments to be safe, healthy, and socially thriving, creating a livable, a a high livability community. Most of them are going to align with the accessible and connected goal both as well. Environmentally sustainable and economically vital. So as we look at introducing new line items within the capital improvement program, we need to demonstrate to our decision makers our policy makers as well as our own internal budget staff that these investments are consistent with the share framework.

[16:17] So we have a process where each year we ask you to provide comments and feedback on the capital improvement program we outlined in the memo that was shared with you, that this month we'll be talking about and providing an overview of the cip that was approved for the 24 to 29, and then in June we'll be coming back to present the draft 25 to 30, and then in August, we'll look to ask for a recommendation that will be carried forward to the planning board and then ultimately City Council as part of the 2025 budget process. So the already approved 24 to 29. Cip represents an over 100 million dollars program comprised of almost 17 million dollars in grants.

[17:06] The Median total per year. Over that. But a 6 year time span is about 14.7, and the programs comprise about 8 million of that each year. So how is this made possible? It's primarily made possible through our transportation fund, which is largely funded by the sales tax. We have other sources that go into the transportation fund, such as the Highway Users Trust Fund, also known as the gas tax. There are other miscellaneous funds and fees that we get that flow down from the State and the county to the city. But the great majority is made possible by the sales tax. and we have a pretty long and storied history here at the city, of taking our transportation sales, tax dollars and pursuing grant opportunities. We'll get to that here in just a moment. And I like to use the expression, we strive to turn our dimes and quarters into dollars by pursuing those grants where we provide that local match and are able to leverage the funding that we do have to obtaining funds to to achieve larger projects and programs.

[18:18] I would point out that there are not many communities in the State of Colorado that are fortunate to have a dedicated transportation fund. So we're very fortunate to have one, and it's allowed the city of Boulder to be able to make the strides it has in terms of investing and delivering transportation infrastructure. and, as was noted in the memo, there is a change coming at the end of 2029, where 0 point 1 5% of the sales tax will be going back to the general fund and away from the transportation fund. and Karen's here to make sure that I don't say anything incorrectly. but it is going to have a big impact on our ability to continue to be able to deliver on projects and programs, and particularly on our ability to be able to pursue grant opportunities. The monumental safe streets for all grant that was awarded to the city at the end of 2023 would not have been possible without having these dedicated transportation fund sources.

[19:21] And so, as we look to 2030, and beyond there is some uncertainty about the city's ability to continue to be competitive at pursuing those types of grants as well as the other types of grants that we've been successful at winning over the years. The other funds that bring transportation investment possible are the Transportation Development Fund, which is largely an excise and sales use tax that is attributed to development activities around the city. And so we take those resources and those revenues and invest them in areas that are related to to growth and development.

[20:01] It's a much, much smaller size or slice of the pie, as you can see from the the the graphics that were presented, and then the Boulder Junction Fund is similarly a Transportation Development Fund, but it lives within instead of the overall city boundary. It lives inside the footprint of the Boulder Junction area around Thirtieth and Pearl and Belmont and and the the railroad. So just to elaborate a bit further on the types of Grant opportunities that we have pursued over the years, and that we currently have inside of our capital improvement program. The primary source has been through the Denver Regional Council of Governments, which is, which is the Denver Metro area transportation planning agency responsible for distributing transportation funds to local agencies like ours. And so that's a competitive process that every 3 to 4 years that we submit project ideas that we think will be competitive, and that we've had a pretty long track record of of winning a number of projects within each of those cycles to make projects possible. So examples of recent projects that have been completed that

[21:16] made possible by the Dr. Cog transportation improvement program or Tip funds would be the Thirtieth and Colorado intersection, the soon to be completed. 20 Eighth and Colorado intersection, the Thirtieth Street project that is now under construction. Those are all examples of tip projects. The next category is the highway safety improvement program or hip. These primarily go to delivering projects that will improve safety for all modes of users. And currently we have a slate of traffic signal and pedestrian crossing treatments that are in the capital improvement program that will make safety improvements to those particular intersections and crossing treatment locations.

[22:01] The next category is the transportation alternatives program or tap, and we have tap funds and the Nineteenth Street project that Lindsey Merse will be highlighting later on in the agenda this evening, and we were also awarded tap funds to build an extension of the multi-use path along Highway 36 from 4 Mile Canyon Creek up to J Road. So that is an opportunity that we've been successful at. It comes around about every 3 or 4 years safe for us to school is an opportunity that comes around every one or 2 years depending on funding availability through the Colorado Department, or transportation or Cdoc, and recent examples of that or the Mesa and Bear Creek elementary improvements, and we were also awarded funding for for the some improvements to Manhattan Middle School along Manhattan to improve non motorized travel for students as well as family looking to get to and from Manhattan Middle School. So that's a project that will be starting later this year. And then I've already noted the say streets for all that. We're very fortunate to have that as a major project a great major funding source to make a lot of projects, and our capital approval program become possible.

[23:22] Other opportunities that continue to be out there just because we've won one safe streets for all doesn't mean that we're precluded from going out and getting others in the future. So hopefully, that's a program opportunity that that continues to be available for years to come. There are other and a variety of other federal programs that we continue to explore right now. We sort of have our hands full with all the the grants and projects that we've recently won. But and then and then in the next few years, we'll look to to see if we can be as competitive in some of these other Grant opportunities as we've been with the safe streets for all. So in addition to the sales tax situation that will hit us in 2030. Tila's seen this graphic for a number of years, so she could probably actually recite this one having seen it. But it's an important reminder that construction cost indexes are outpacing standard consumer price indexes, and that's keeping up with inflation and the infrastructure construct construction marketplace continues to be a challenge. And so this is a graphic that depicts

[24:27] the reduction of purchasing power as time goes by, and we see this showing up, and a number of our area, our, our our major investment areas, such as pavement and bridges and sidewalks. And here is an example of that. So the increase, and and pricing went kind of crazy right after Covid, which you can see, this is the Colorado construction cost Index, which is a report put out by CD, and so the the trend line is the green line but you can see the variability. Last year

[25:04] things continue to go up, just not at the rate that they have been going up so as opposed to 17 to 20% increases in costs. We saw things go up only double digit at 10%. So still pretty significant. So that was a bit about the the funding where it comes from, the grant opportunities that we pursue. And now we'll so change our focus to talking about how we spend the money that is in the capital approval program. So we divvy it up into the multimodal programs and into the multimodal projects. And it's split right now about 50, 50 and the 24 to 29 that will likely continue as we look to bringing the 25 to 30 capital improvement program. And so the types of programs that are in the multimodal side of the the pie chart are the major maintenance, the major capital maintenance. So the these wouldn't include the sidewalk repair program, general sidewalk maintenance.

[26:13] multi use path, enhancements and capital maintenance. So we have, been doing some work on the multi use path system to replace degraded pavement as well as replace bicycle and pedestrian bridges that are on the multi use path system that's made possible by by these capital maintenance items. The pavement management program lives under this side of the the the cip, which is the most substantial item and the capital improvement program. We also have the major capital reconstruction which funds bridges. and then we also had some seed funding and the prior year for our core core arterial network, which is has largely spun off into their own individual projects. For as we head into 25 and 30, and then we also have the line item for doing mobility enhancements with the the payment management program, which is something that will be talked about next on the agenda.

[27:10] So a little bit more on the payment management program I James Smith, our pavement program manager and Daniel Sheeter, our multimodal lead designer, are here to talk about this next on the agenda, so I don't wanna take too much away from them. But what I do wanna note is, is that this is a major part of our our assets. When we talk about having billions of dollars of assets that we need to take care of. We are, spending a lot of money on taking care of our payment, because it's there's a lot of money out there in that in in that asset that we need to take care of. So that's all I'll say about that, and they'll they'll provide a much more in-depth overview of this next. Then, on the pedestrian programs. These are both enhancements, but primarily maintenance. You might live in a neighborhood where you've seen the sidewalk repair program come in and upgrade degraded sidewalk conditions as well as make improvements to pedestrian curb ramps at intersections.

[28:10] There's also a miscellaneous program that if a a homeowner or business owner wants to improve the sidewalk in front of their property, the city will partner 50 50 with them on that upgrade. And this is in the this funding is because we we recognize that walking is a fundamental mode of transportation for residents of the community, and we want to make that possible by closing missing links and making the existing sidewalks safer and better. We are fortunate that again, by having the transportation Fund, we're able to make these investments there. Most every city and the State has a code that says sidewalk maintenance is responsibility of the adjacent landowner and boulder. Is you not not unique in that way? We're like pretty much every other city in the State where we are unique is that we are one of a very, very small number of communities that actually participate with homeowners and making investments to upgrade the sidewalk as well as having a proactive program that strives to go and and bring our sidewalk facilities up to Ada compliance.

[29:21] The multi-use path program is like, I said, focused on taking care of repaving existing paths, as well as replacing pedestrian bridges, as well as making enhancements to the existing multi-use path system. And then we have the the bridge asset program that is responsible for taking care of the bridges and structures that are all over our transportation network. Whether they're on the multi use path or on the street system. And when I talk about bridges and minor structures, typically we would think of things like the Broadway bridge over Boulder Creek, or perhaps Folsom Bridge, over Goose Creek, which are much larger structures and by transportation, infrastructure, definition

[30:07] structures are actually anything larger than 4 feet and span, and we have in the category of bridges between 4 foot span to 20 foot span, approximately 275 structures. and which is a disproportionate number for a community of our size. The reason for that is that we have 13 creeks and drainage ways that come out of the mountains, and we also have 17 irrigation ditches that flow out of the mountains. And so that means that we have a lot of streets crossing these waterways that we have to have culverts and structures to cross. So a number of those structures are aging in a poor condition. And so we are spending money to try to keep those structures in in good condition, because, in addition to providing a vehicle or access, many of these streets are important travel ways for pedestrians and bicyclists and transit users.

[31:05] Alright. So that's an overview of the capital maintenance and multimodal enhancement programs. And I'm going to hand it now over to Brian Wilchire. He's going to talk about some of the key projects that are in the 24 to 29 cip. And an important designation here is that there might be some projects that are currently under construction that you don't see in in here, and so Brian will talk about. Why, that's the case. So, Brian, are you queued up and ready to go. I believe so. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. Excellent. Okay, thank you very much. Garrett. Good evening, everyone. My name is Brian Wilchair, and I'm a civil engineering manager within the transportation mobility group primarily responsible for implementing the cip projects. I'll be covering the transportation cip portion of tonight's presentation this present day or this transportation cip project slide that you're seeing is presenting the projects currently in planning phase projects in construction such as the Twentieth and Colorado protected intersection and the Thirtieth Street bike lane projects aren't shown since they've already been funded in Prior approved Cip Years

[32:17] table you're seeing shows the budget amount for each project, and in which year the funding will be received. Garrett, next slide. Thank you. This tip local match years 22, through 25 and 24 through 27 projects and the Tmp implementation slide discusses the various funding sources, such as tap safe routes to school. Hsip also noted it on a previous slide, and in which years. The local match is being provided for. As we receive funding for these specific projects, the match comes out of the 4 million dollar average yearly allocation and goes into each specific project. For instance, that's why the Tip and Tmp funding in 2025 only shows up as a million dollars. It's also important to note

[33:05] that the funding shown includes the soft costs, such as planning, design and staff costs, and then the hard costs which are the construction and material costs Garrett next slide, please. Okay, thank you. Now, I'm gonna highlight. A few key projects, not the entire list, but just the ones of broader interest to the public. The first project is the Baseline Road Phase 2 project. The first phase of the baseline was constructed in 2023, which was the tall curb implementation. This project represents Tmp investment categories one and 2. Construction of this project is anticipated to begin in 2025 total funding for the project at 3.9 million with 3.1 a million of that coming from Grant funding project as part of the core arterial network. The graphics that you're seeing on the slide shows the limits of the project essentially from Thirtieth Street to Foothills Parkway, as well as the multimodal distributions. So for this project, we're looking at about

[34:03] a split of 20% for pedestrians, bike at 50% 20% for transit and 10% for roadway. This funding is the second phase of work on Baseline Road to deliver comprehensive multimodal capital intensive improvements, including completing the tall curb protected bike lanes installed during the first phase with work with scheduled pavement maintenance in 2023. The now completed first phase of work use city funds to begin installing safety improvements sooner from 20 Eighth Street to Foothills Parkway, and on Mohawk, from Baseline Road to Pawnee Drive. This included repaving and restipering the roadway, new concrete, tall curves to protect the Bike Lane at strategic locations new or widened bike lane buffers, new crosswalk and corner islands, shortened pedestrian and bicycle crossing distances and green bike lane markings.

[35:00] Garrett. Next slide, please. Second project is the Thirtieth Street preliminary design from Arapaho to Iris. This project is looking at the next segment of the Thirtieth Street corridor. Previous improve and Projects Thirtieth and Colorado underpass, Thirtieth Street, Bike Lane improvements came directly out of the Thirtieth Street and Colorado Avenue corridors study project completed back in 2,018. This current project also represents Tmp. Investment priorities one and 2. The engagement and design phase will occur in 2024, and 2025, with implementation projected to be 2026, and beyond using some of the recently awarded safe streets for all funding. this project is also part of the core arterial network and a safe streets for all corridor carrots. Next slide, if you would please. Third project being presented tonight is the Broadway intersection improvements project. The goals of the project are to convert the third lane of Broadway in each direction to a business access transit also known as a Bat Lane and improve transit at at the Broadway region and Broadway table mesa intersections.

[36:13] This project is also another can corridor or within the can corridor with Tmp. Investment priorities one and 2. The design of this project is expected to be completed in 2024, with construction in 2,025 city received 4 million dollars in grant funding for the project with a total cost expected to reach 4.6 million multimodal distribution for this project includes pedestrians at 10% and transit at 90%. Garrett next slide. Thank you. Next up is the East Arapaho multi-use path and transit stops Project goal. This project is to enhance the multi-use paths and connect the missing links to help complete the network. This project represents Tmp investment priorities. One and 2

[37:00] construction of this project is anticipated to begin in fall winter of 24, with the undergrounding of the overhead electric lines, which is currently under construction by excel, followed immediately by construction of the multi-use path and transit improvements total funding for the project comes in at 1.9 million, with 760,000 of that coming from a Federal Cac. Grant Garrett. Next slide, please. The last 2 projects are the downtown Boulder Station and the Fourteenth and Canyon traffic signal replacement projects. Goal of these projects is to improve pedestrian safety crossing or crossing safety and bus operations through the signal improvements and enhanced transit through additional bus capacity. Downtown Boulder Station represents Dmp. Investment priorities one and 2. Construction of this project is anticipated to begin in 2024, with total funding for the project at 982,000, with 593,000 coming from grants funding for the fourteenth and Canyon improvements is 650,000, with construction expected to start in 2,025.

[38:10] Alright. so next steps are. We will come back in June and present the draft 25 to 30, Cip and I, I wanted to say for the newer tab members. I know this is a lot of information, and it's as Tila noted. It's it's it's a lot to absorb in a short timeframe, and years past we have offered to meet with newer members in a smaller meeting, if necessary, to to help facilitate the understanding. So that you're feeling as informed as possible and contributing to the development and the the the recommendation of the cip. And as Taylor noted I I we're I wanna come back to that point just here. Sort of ad hoc to say a number of the projects that we're building right now were approved by tab members perhaps 5 or 6 years ago. So the work that you're doing now as a part of the Cip 25 to 30 will not be realized until some of your actually

[39:19] fulfilled your your term and have have left the Board, and it will be, you know, another set of board members who are saying, Why are we doing these sets of projects, and will be because you all said, This is what we think is important and where we should be spinning our resources. So it's super important that we have you all involved and and participating in this effort, and and glad to have your attention on this, and then at the August meeting, as I noted. That's where we'll look to get a recommendation from you as we head into the the Planning Board. which will occur also in August, and then September and October is where city council will review, do a study session and then approve the 25 budget and the 25 to 30 cip. So with that happy to take any questions that you all might have.

[40:04] Thank you, Garrett. I'm gonna pause us right here. Jen Oakes has joined us, so I would like to swear her in as a tab member before we proceed with questions from tab members. If that's all right with everybody. Veronica, are you gonna be the one to to swear her in? Yes, yeah. Okay. Okay. Do so, let me share my. Hi, Jen, welcome! Nice to see you. Thanks for joining us. Alright, Jen, I'm gonna be sharing my screen, and we, if you could please, read the oath that is displayed. Let's see. So, Jen, it looks like you're talking, but I can't hear you. Yeah, Veronica, just a second. I don't know that we can hear Jennifer. Oh, let's see. Do have a horrible Internet.

[41:02] That. That's okay. I heard you just now working. Here, you know. Yeah. We'll go ahead and Hi Jennifer Oaks to solemnly swear that I will supported Constitutional United States of America and of the safe Colorado, and then charter and large, of the city of Border, and faithfully perform the duties of the office of a member of the report for which I am about to enter. Terrific! Welcome aboard! Dude sorry about my communication. Errors. I'm not sure what you're referring to, but you're here with us now. So carry on. Okay. So you saw most of Garrett's presentation. But I think you might not have been here right at the beginning. This will be the first of, you know, 3 kind of check ins but this is a portion where we have a chance as board members to sort of ask clarifying questions.

[42:16] The staff isn't really necessarily coming to us tonight for any particular feedback. But they're always very gracious and accepting it. But if you have questions about what was presented and and what you've heard so far. This is a great time. We'll have the people here and it it generally. If you have a question. Probably someone else does as well. So it's a good time to ask questions, Mike. You look unmuted and ready to go. Oh, can't hear you either.

[43:20] Nope, still, not so. Jen has her hand up. Let's go to Jen, and then we'll see Mike, if you can sort out what's going on. In the meantime. Okay, I you hear me. Okay. Yep. Okay. I wanted to know if disability was ever part of the plan. Any process for any of these grants or projects. Yes, so I I can speak to that and say that that is incorporated and integrated to each of the planning efforts, as well as the design and construction projects that are included in the Cip programs as well as individual projects.

[44:14] A as part of the E. Each of these endeavors. It's really important both to us, individually and collectively, but also because we know that the city has goals of and inclusion, and it's consistent with our share framework that we need to be thinking about how to address the needs of people of all ages and abilities, as we bring these fraud projects forward. And I, an example that I've shared, I think, in the past, and I think is a as a great one is that we worked with some community connectors on the development of the downtown boulder station, and where we were able to meet with the center for people, with disabilities on sites to understand what the unique challenges and barriers are to a design where we're looking to add additional bus gates. And it was super informative to a experience it with the the folks that were there on the ground with us, so we could get that type of feedback and incorporate those comments into the design. And so we did

[45:21] look to do that on every project as as is, it being an implicit part of the process. Mike, are we gonna try you again? Now. Yeah. Can you hear me? Oh, there you go! Took the air pods out of the equation. I was really impressed to learn all the projects. I I wasn't familiar with all of these that are planned. And the biggest question mark that stands out to me is funding with

[46:00] the expiring transportation tax sales tax in 2029. so I have 2 questions about that about funding When would it? W. Would the transportation department be considering? Asking to to have that renewed as a ballot measure and and also what happens when suddenly inflation goes from an average of 5% to about 15% over the last 3 years. When you, when you've allocated funding for for projects. Natalie, do you want to take the first part of that. Sure I can take the first part, and then it'd be great if you can take the second one So for the first one. I'll say we we it's definitely on our minds around the expiring portion of the sales tax dedicated fund for transportation. We're definitely lifting up those conversations with the city manager's office.

[47:06] the City Council as part of their priorities for the coming 2 years. One of their work plan items is to focus on the citywide long term. Financial strategy and transportation, you know, isn't alone and I think we may be unique in that. A portion of our dedicated fund is is expiring so soon. But really many of the departments and the city as a whole is really facing some serious financial constraints around how we can continue deliver to deliver the level of service that we're currently providing with our current resources. I think frankly, I can say that we can't. and Garrett and Karen and I and and the leadership team have had some conversations about that as a department, and I'm definitely lifting those up, you know, city wide.

[48:01] but to be determined what the solution will be. I think that we'll be hearing from city council in the coming months and year to see what direction we're headed. Alright. And to answer your second question. the Mike, the the the simplest answer to what we have been doing in recent years is we're doing less and so the on the the payment management program on the sidewalk programs. And here, here's a concrete no pun intended. Example for you. This, when the sidewalk repair program was initiated and 2010, 2011 timeframe. The city was divided into 30 geographic areas, there's 30 different zones, and at that time, with the funding that we had in place the plant, the the goal was to be able to deliver one zone per year. 3 or 4 years later we were only do be able to do 2 zones or we were able to do one zone every 2 years now it's taking us 4 years to do one zone.

[49:12] And so that's a really great example of. So it just means that that we're not able to do all that we've set out to do at at the pace that we hope that we would be able to, and so that on the capital maintenance programs. We're not able to repay as many streets. We're not able to take as care as many sidewalks on capital projects. It means we have to be really aggressive at getting as many Grant funds in the door as possible, so that we can deliver on on these projects, since we don't have that many and that much funding of our own to be able to to, to deploy. And I'll and I'll just add to that. And Garrett, certainly. And Karen correct me if I'm wrong. But I think even we're, you know, many times in a situation where we expected a certain bid on a project. And we.

[50:03] the bids that are coming in are much higher than the expected and budgeted for. And so then we have to go to council for an atb and adjustment to base, to seek additional dollars, to be able to fund those projects. And that's all coming out of, you know the same dedicated fund of money that we were talking about, that will be seen a portion, a portion of it going away here in the next few years. And so that just takes away from our bottom line, which takes away from, you know, all of the capital maintenance and ongoing costs that we need to be able to cover on an annual basis. Thanks to both of you. So if I can ask a follow up question on Mike's sort of what do we do with the money running out? You know, a couple of years ago there was a a side working group with tab and staff about thinking about alternate funding mechanisms, recognizing that maybe the nature of commerce is changing, and the way that we're collecting sales tax revenue in the city might not be sufficient to meet our needs.

[51:10] when do we revisit that or re resurrect that because it seems like the the need was apparent a few years ago, and it's all the more apparent now. The working group kind of studied a few different ideas, but nothing really came of it. Nothing went further, you know, was. to my mind, to my knowledge, like presented to council as a as a potential. So how? How are we gonna be more imaginative, I suppose, in collecting revenue in the future? Yeah, I think. you know, we're certainly interested in continuing those conversations around what you know additional or different funding sources we can be considering and picking up the work that was done. There was a lot of good work that was done. And and what If I recall correctly, it was essentially like kind of right before Covid hit that we had kind of got to a point where we were ready to go and have a conversation with Council about it. And then, you know, with Covid hitting, it really just wasn't an appropriate time for us to be able to have those conversations.

[52:15] So it's just been put on hold. And then there's really been, I would say, kind of a shift in perspective as a whole for the city. And and and it's not necessarily a shift in perspective, but maybe more. So that, like we're seeing as a whole city, not just transportation, that there's a funding problem. Right? And so, we're just trying to have a more holistic conversation and bring the entire. You know all the departments in the entire city into that conversation. So I it's not to say that I think we can't, you know, pick up that work again. I think it's just going to be in a more host. Holistic conversation wide. And and I think that would be. You know. we'll potentially be talking about where Tab wants to focus. You know their priorities or efforts in the coming year at the Retreat. But potentially, you know, funding might be an area that Tab is interested and talking to council about right and focusing in that area. Since that's on councils, you know, work plan for priorities in the coming years.

[53:22] Okay. Sorry other questions. Tab members. Not at the moment. thanks, Garrett. I was wondering on the slide showing the programs. Why is there $0 allocated for can for 2025, 26, and 27. That's because we've got funding in place for the priority corridors as standalone projects, which you'll see when we bring the 25 to 30. So. So it's not in the. It's not on the programs page. It's on the pro projects page. And relax. And then there is programmatic funding sort of

[54:01] planned in 2028, right? Yeah. That was, that's sort of a placeholder, as we're not quite sure where we'll be at that point in time. But we wanted to sort of carve out some space that was where we were at with our financial scenario. This time last year. With the the little bit darker outlook. We'll see where that that takes us as we come back to you in June. But the idea is we do want to try to preserve some of that can quarter money for 28 as as stand alone for making that investment in this key priority. Okay. I I I appreciate your like defensive parrying about the about the sidewalk maintenance and splitting the funds with the with homeowners, cause. Of course you anticipated my grumpiness about that fit. But I would just like kind of like to raise and leave hanging as a question, because I haven't ranted very much this year. To say like, if walking is as fundamental a mode of transportation as your preface said, then why why do we, as a city, as a municipality.

[55:14] not fully funded the way that we fully fund roadway maintenance fully, publicly fund you know, cleaning up and repairing stuff that happens on the roads and the highways and the bridges. And specifically, when you were mentioning bridges, I mean, we can. We'll go back to the Transcript. But we don't need to, really. But you were saying, you know, these are in addition to being, of course, you know, things that carry automobiles. Some of these bridges are important for pedestrians and and transit users and bikers as well. And I would argue, if we're living up to our commitment to value all of those modes equally, then they shouldn't at any point in your discussions of these things, be sort of add ons and after thoughts. And I that that statement just struck me as an add on and an afterthought.

[56:05] because it does appear through decades, your predecessors as well, but through decades of of budgeting and management and maintenance of the system that we are baking in auto centric and baking in some failure to accommodate slower people modes of moving around. So I just like to point it out every time I see it and smell it, just hoping that we can train ourselves to be thinking about it. I am not accusing you of, you know, failing to value these things, but I'm just saying it's it's inherent in the system, and it's and it's important to recognize it when it raises its head. I I appreciate that, and I I guess I would just offer 1 one friendly sort of rebuttal to that which is that none of our programs are fully funded. So the payment management program could easily use double the money it gets. The bridge program could use 5 times the money it gets. The sidewalk program needs 4 times the money, so none of them are funded at the level they should be to truly be taking care of them in a proactive way.

[57:12] But in terms of the and and then the capital maintenance investment we're making as a percentage of the value of that asset. I would say it's it's it's somewhat proportional in the range of being being proportional. Okay, I appreciate that. Another thing that has occurred to me. And I'm we're not gonna try to delve into discussing Iris. But you know, it's with the elephant in the room. Of course it's gonna be for a few months as a lot of the sort of private feedback that I've heard from people who are very in involved and very sort of up to speed on these things. And then some people who are just looking at it for the first time. Is a concern about how like the sidewalk options appear favorable in some of the not portfolios. The options, options a. 3D.

[58:02] And some of them appear. We're not doing any changes, and my understanding and I was hoping to clarify this tonight. My understanding is that those are because of the way we fund stuff. Sidewalkie stuff is probably treated as a separate project. We don't tend to. When we're looking at a quarter. Yes, great. We're trying to pull all different kinds of money from different things. But, the money that actually gets spent on sidewalk improvements might come from a different pool, even if it's happening at the same time. And it's part of the same effort. As a quarter wide thing. I'm not sure if I got this right, and if I still don't after 8 years, I'm sorry. But it would help, I think, if we if I. And we had a better understanding of When projects get broken up into disparate projects when it feels like they should be integrated, I guess. So, yeah. So as a matter of course, we don't look to bifurcate the funding for pedestrian and sidewalk improvements for the standalone capital projects.

[59:07] they they. They are a critical element of each of the the projects. And so once it's in the cip, it's it's not separated or delineated, but. Yeah, I think I think what I'm trying to say, though, is that the money that we're chasing the grant funding is often separated that way. and that that might be reflected in how Staff is thinking about and communicating with the public about. You know the order of operations, or whatever like wh. The way that things unfold, even if it's in the same area, they've become disparate projects. So, for instance, someone asked me like, Oh, Iris, you know I don't see this thing that we were talking about crossing at Fifteenth showing up on this map. And I'm like, Oh, no, that's a separate project that's already separately funded. And to the members of the public they're like, Well, why, that's not different to them. But it's different to us. yep. Do you mind if I jump in? Okay? Well, so I think

[60:01] in my mind, that's a bit of a different situation, right? Because it's not so much about like a mode being bifurcated out of that like. That project was just a project that was on the work plan, you know, many years, because there was a need to look at crossing improvements at Fifteenth and Iris and we went after a grant. And I mean, that's been on the books for many years. And so that, you know it's not so much like oh, that was an improvement that was bifurcated from the overall project. And and I think the thing about that we can just clearly say is that all 4 options for Iris that are moving forward will include sidewalk improvements. And and so it's it's not like we're going in to can doesn't say, well, you can only make bike Lane improvements right? The the it's a transportation improvement project. It's going to benefit all modes, even people traveling by car, right? Like we have been saying that over and over again, so

[61:03] hopefully that like helps. Just, I think, like your question was, are we bifurcating a mode in these projects? And and we're not like that's not our. We generally try to be making it better for everybody using a corridor right? I'm saying that a number of people who are studying option a versus option d are seeing differences in the sidewalk treatments and improvements on those and thinking, Aha! Those sidewalk improvements are only folded into option. D. And my understanding is that's not correct. That's not correct. I think the the reason people may be coming to that conclusion is because, you know, in C and D, we're completely having to rebuild the crew and gotten sidewalks right? And so it just might be more intuitive for people that like that's what they hear. And so it's going to be rebuilt. But we'll be making sidewalk improvements in A and D as well. Okay. Darcy, your hand is up. Thank you.

[62:00] Yeah, no. I just wanted to build on that a little bit. So I the you know, it's clear to me that across these projects. You know, you've you've designated that pedestrian bike roadway improvements. You know that you've got certain percentages for each of those uses. And they? You can see that they are kind of built in. But just further, a little bit to Tila's point. Multi use paths. So how are those? Kind of distinctly designated from, say, sidewalks. In these projects. So like the the Paypin management program, you know, is maybe looking at the entire roadway, including the sidewalks and bike lanes and all that stuff. But multi-use paths are. Are they funded completely separately, are they? I I maybe I'm just not catching how those are really distinct projects from

[63:00] larger roadway improvements. and what the implications are for that I guess, for funding. That's a it's a great question. I'm I'm glad you asked Darcy. So you're correct that the the and I I wanna clarify so the payment management program just that. This is to help further your understanding of the scope of that program in a a given year, it will spend approximately 30% of the budget, not on street pavement, but on a a upgrading the the adjacent concrete sidewalk and and curb ramps. So there there are a a number of benefits that are happening through the Pmp. Across the the system to to make travel better for all users. And that is also the case when we touch multi use paths as part of the Pmp. The but the the multi use path investment is more for the the paths that follow Greenways. So whether it's Boulder Creek or Goose Creek or Skunk Creek or Bear Creek, the most recent major maintenance that a lot of folks saw was in the community gardens er along gardens area where we repaved all the paths from asphalt to concrete that took place via the multi use path maintenance because the the street pmp is never gonna be able to touch something like that.

[64:22] Okay, great. Thank you very much. I mean, it's such an a vital network. And we depend on it as pedestrians and bicyclists. And so it's it's really good to to hear how these projects are distinct from from the others. Thank you. Thank you any other questions right now for Garrett, Karen and Brian. Alright, we will see you next month. Thank you for this. I will say it gets a gets a lot more detailed next month. So tab members do kind of schedule some time to really pour over it. I expect after the discussion next month we will

[65:02] be seeing if there's appetite to have one of those other like Mini like study sessions that Garrett so nicely quasi offered to do, and so just have a have a sense of how how comfortable you're feeling with what what you understand with these projects, and whether you have deeper, wanna do some deeper dives, because we will probably have time to do that if we've if we prepared enough. Thank you, Garrett. Thank you. Hey? So we will move on now to the Pmp. The pavement management program. Mobility enhancements overview. This is item 7 on the agenda. Alright. So I'm going to introduce this one. We've got James Smith, our pavement program manager, and Daniel Sheeter, who are going to be presenting this. and I just wanted to give a bit of a a preface to introduce that the payment management program for many, many years was focused on just taking care of the maintenance side of things. And in recent years we've been growing the focus of that to implement mobility enhancements around the system, so that as we have contractor resources deployed in a given area, we can try to introduce

[66:15] better and safer treatments for our vulnerable road users. And so I'm gonna hand it off now to to James to provide the overview of the Pmp. And then, Daniel, talk about the mobility enhancement side of things. Thanks, Garrett. Can everybody hear me? Okay. Awesome. I'm James Smith. I'm the pavement manager and I'm joined by Daniel Sheater. Transportation principle, principal transportation planner, and he'll talk about the mobility enhancements here later on in this presentation. And then, Garrett, are you controlling slides? Or is that. Me. I think, yeah, that coming through for everybody. Yep, thanks, Daniel, appreciate it. Alright. So the payment management program was established by the transportation Division to maintain boulders 300 Mile street system in a in a good condition.

[67:08] With this program all streets are inspected on a 3 year interval to maintain awareness of existing conditions and guide, where pavement rehabilitation work will be made in future years. So we can go on to the next slide there. So with these inspections our streets are rated on the payment condition index scale. The Pci is a numerical rating system, commonly used by transportation agencies to indicate the general condition of payment infrastructure. and it's developed by the Us. Army corps of engineers. The Pci is based on a visual survey of the number and types of distresses in a pavement Pci ratings range from 0 to 100 with 100 representing the best possible conditions.

[68:02] and we can go on to the next slide. See? So the goal of the payment management program is to identify the optimal level of funding, timing and renewal strategies that will keep the roadway network at or above a good pci here we see a typical payment degradation curve and you can see by spending money on good streets, we extend the life and and avoid more costly repairs in the future. So we want to optimize the right treatment at the right time in an asset life cycle. And our strategy really is keeping our good roads good. So we're not spending a whole lot of money on in the future when they get really bad. So go on to the next slide here we kinda see, or we see. Sorry our

[69:02] typical street treatments that we do crack ceiling we typically do after we've resurfaced the street within 3 to 5 years. and this helps seal up the road and prevent water from infiltrating and causing potholes or sub-based damage that create fit larger failures in the future. And it extends our payment life 2 to 3 years chip ceiling is another common one that we do on our local kind of lower volume streets. And it's it's a layer of sealant that goes down and then topped with a crushed stone. and this extends our pavement life. It could be up 5 to 10 years and then another. The kind of the most common one is our asphalt resurfacing treatment. This is where we removed remove 2 or more inches of the existing asphalt and replace it with a fresh layer. And we typically see a

[70:02] a life extension of 20 15 to 20 years. There. And then our most costly treatment is our street reconstruction, and this is the full removal of all asphalt, and and sometimes even the subgrade and reworking and placing it back. And this is where, where streets are completely failed. So we can move on to the next slide. So here, for existing conditions, we designate our roads by local, arterial and collector with 71 local, 17 arterial, and 12% collector. And here on this graph, you can kind of see the distribution of those streets and their Pci ratings right now. For 2024. We're reporting an average Pci for the network at a 77. So not terrible.

[71:03] We can move on to the next slide also the pmp. Kinda leverages outside resources, one of which being the Colorado Asphalt Pavement Association, and they conduct a survey of all local agencies to see what how much money they're spending and what their Pci are generally. And this helps us kinda gauge where we're at. And we can see that we're we're in line with a lot of agencies, and we have a pretty competitive pci. Finally. Henry Bonds hand it over to Daniel for talking about how we're integrating the mobility enhancements now. Great. Thanks. James. Daniel Sheater, principal transportation planner in the planning division. So as James mentioned, and Garrett to mobility, enhancements are coordinated with the pavement management program as a cost effective and efficient way to make Boulder Street safer for people walking, biking, rolling, driving, and taking transit

[72:12] due to available resources. Mobility, enhancements are typically limited to signage and striping changes, such as new crosswalks or restripe by cleans, but can sometimes propose more complex elements. 2 benefits that I'd like to highlight related to aligning with the Pmpr. That striping changes can be incorporated into already planned repaving work. and that traffic impacts can also be minimized, since traffic control is coordinated with the overall pmp scope which could entail you know, chip seal or resurfacing or roadway reconstruction. so identifying opportunities for mobility, enhancements, hinges on early identification of which streets will be candidates for repaving. This allows for inter departmental coordination. If repaving needs to be coordinated with projects led by other departments, such as planned utility, work

[73:04] within transportation, mobility, a multidisciplinary team of capital projects, operations, maintenance and planning staff develops designs that are informed by existing conditions, analysis. the city's design and construction standards. What we hear from the community and plan document planning document recommendations like those from the transportation master plan, or the low stress walk and bike plan planning staff also lead community engagement for any proposed enhancements. And the goal of this approach is to identify potential mobility enhancements as early as possible, so that there is ample time for design, development and construction. Planning the maps on this slide show this year's paving plan for 2024, and a preliminary preliminary resurfacing plan for 20 for the 2025 paving year on the right. So we who doesn't love a good slideshow of before. After pictures, I'll walk through some examples of some recent mobility enhancements.

[74:01] This first one is, not a photo, but a screenshot of a striping plan. For Boston Avenue and Edgewood Avenue. And mobility. The mobility, enhancements initiative implemented a minor striping change to that corridor last year that was designed in house to narrow vehicle lanes to standard widths and add a buffer to the westbound bike lane. The next project is one that Brian mentioned the Baseline road transportation, safety Improvements project, initial phase one improvements were coordinated with repaving last summer and included installing segments of tall curb protected bike lanes. Between Thirtieth and foothills. Post separated. Bibles were also implemented between Thirtieth Street and the 20 Eighth Street, Us. 36 interchange as an upgrade to existing, painted 5 foot bike lanes. The phase 2 project Brian mentioned is just east of Thirtieth, between thirtieth and foothills, and these photos show that tall curve as well as

[75:02] some vinyl wraps with art from a local local artist continuing with baseline intersection, tightening at side streets and a quick build protected intersection at Baseline and Mohawk were also installed last summer. Many of these enhancements will be made permanent as part of the more comprehensive phase, 2 project which kicked off earlier this year. the intersection tightening utilized paint and post treatments to slow the speed of turning vehicles and reduce conflicts between people, biking and driving and the quick build. Intersection improvements enhance the North South bikeway on Mohawk Drive and provide a dedicated space for people on bikes to wait or make turns at the intersection, as well as calmed speeds for turning vehicles for 2024 concrete work on Morehead Avenue for the mobility enhancements. There have been completed the enhancements include Splitter Islands to calm traffic at Key pedestrian crossings.

[76:02] and there in the photo is the Bear Creek Crossing, and the recently installed Splitter Islands. There, as well as a new pedestrian crossing near the High Mar senior housing community and post office at the south end of the corridor. So the Pmp also repairs many aspects of street infrastructure to bring it up to a state of good repair. These aren't technically categorized as mobility enhancements, but they do bring about safety, safety benefits as well. So in the case of Morehead this example is a before after of a drainage inlet that was replaced and relocated out of the gutter pan which improves the safety and comfort of the on street by plane. There the blade enhancements are also coordinated with Americans with Disability Act or Ada improvements, including the reconstruction of curb ramps. So in this case you see an example of directional curb ramps that were installed along the corridor as well as the

[77:02] detectable warning surface and the the the before photo on the left. You know, you can see that there is not ample space to wait at those curb ramps, the existing curb ramps. And there weren't domes. Those those detectable warning surfaces before. So those are all brought up to Ada standards. The final example was completed just a few weeks ago at the Broadway multi-use path underpass to Lashley Lane, in South Boulder. as you can see in the photo at the top of the slide. The crossing lacked a receiving curb ramp on the east side of the street, and a small Median island created a pinch point near the underpass opening. The crossing was upgraded to remove the Median island. as well as bulb out the east sidewalk to shorten the crossing distance and install a new curb ramp. That detectable warning surfaces were also added to the west side curve ramp there in the photo.

[78:01] So for 2024, we basically have 2 2 corridors for mobility enhancements. This year east Baseline will see mobility enhancements this year from Foothills Parkway to 50 Fifth Street. So operational enhancements are planned to improve multimodal travel and safety. and for Morehead I shared some examples of the initial construction. Earlier in the presentation. The final phase of and of implementation will begin with repaving next week, weather dependent, and we'll include resiping and installation of speed cushions at the conclusion of resurfacing. and with that James and I are happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you, Daniel. Questions. Tab. Thank you. I can see you all. Hi, Darcy, go ahead. It's not really, really a question. I just wanted to thank you for that change you made to the

[79:01] paving on the on Lashley, you know, at at that underpass, because that really was hazardous with bicyclists and pedestrians interacting at that space with that weird little island that was there, so I really appreciate that, being taken care of and opened up, and the receiving ramp on the other side, with the widened pavement on the other side that that really will make a huge difference. This is part of a, you know, a series of walks that I lead with my group on the walk 3, 60 and other places. And that's always been a really difficult pinch point, just because bicyclists are also very active through there. So I really appreciate that change. And you know, all of these look really positive and important. I'd love to hear from Jen about how these the new directional ramps and the domes. You know how how functional that is for wheelchair users, and whether you know these

[80:06] improvements are really are really enhancing mobility on those areas. It, does she? I really don't know, because I need to have real experience. but it looks good from what I can tell. thank you. Darcy, for for mentioning that I'll share that with my team the the lastly lane was kind of it was an Ada upgrade as well. That kinda came came about because Lashley was resurfaced. So it's good to hear good feedback on that, and I'll share that with my team. Thank you. Yeah, thanks. Improving all of these places that were so narrow and just difficult to traverse, and especially for people with any kind of mobility device. I imagine that all of these improvements are are really beneficial. So thank you.

[81:04] Hmm! So to that end, since I don't see hands up, but feel free to raise your hands, tab, if you have other stuff. Sort of further to my comment about different sources of funding and different projects, and it not making a whole lot of sense necessarily from the public facing side. In my neighborhood, which just had a whole bunch of maybe it's still ongoing. I haven't looked around for the last couple of days. Just a lot of of ramp replacement and and upgrading, and, you know. correcting drainage, and that's all terrific. And in between those ramps, of course, we have large slates of of stone natural stone I'm in Mapleton Hill, which get heaved up or broken, or, you know, cracked or trees, and the the sidewalks between those ramps that are fairly impassable. So it's a it's a very piecemeal, you know, token, step in the right direction. But in terms of that project fundamentally changing

[82:07] the ease for people to get around. it. It hasn't changed. My grandfather stayed here with us for 1010 years ago, and he was like, I am not walking around this neighborhood, but that's not safe for me. Because of the condition of the sidewalks. So. I can. Please. Yeah, yeah. I know you. Little bit. Everything all at once. There's no, there's no ferry with a magic wand that's gonna give us all the money to do everything with all of all the you know, all that we want. But that's that's just a an expression of what I was trying to describe earlier about. Sure. Yeah. And I like Garrett said so. Mapleton Hill is in the annual sidewalk repair program, and when we could do one zone in one year. We're we're now doing one zone and 4 and. And the stone replacements are quite expensive so trying to get the Ada upgrades done now and then we will be coming back for for the rest of the sidewalk.

[83:06] So when you say stone, replace. Is not. You mean you're replacing that that the stone with with concrete or with other stone. No, no, we'll we'll be either resetting this the existing stone, or replacing with new new flagstone. Interesting. Is this a landmarksy thing? Is this? Why. Yeah, yeah, that's my understanding. Yeah, Yeah, I and Garrett may know the history on this. I think it's community preference. We've heard pretty robust feedback about replacing it for. M-hmm. Like material. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, there, there, there, among other absolute nose like thou shalt not move the ban shell, thou shalt not replace flagstone with concrete. it. It's such such a perfect segue. My next question, which is, I think, some of these things that I love the before and after. Thank you, Daniel, and some of these things. I'm sure if you had floated the ideas to take away that

[84:11] that that weird little Pinch point that Darcy was just talking about, for, lastly, that was probably put in specifically to slow down bicycles because of a concern that they would be going too fast when they're coming in and out of the tunnel, slightly down hills. You're entering the street, you know. Good reasons to have it. It didn't work very well, but I'm sure you could have shown 2 boulder rights, that thing, and you'd got you'd get 5 different opinions out of them about whether it was an okay thing to do. And so this is one of those times where I think. hooray! We can just move to the inform level of community engagement. Because, you know, we are relying on city staff and engineering expertise to just go ahead with it. And I continue to just still scratch my head like, why, sometimes, for some projects we defer to community input, like thou shalt not replace my sandstone sidewalk

[85:01] to instead, overruling that and saying, I'm sorry we have standards about how people get around, and if it's getting in the way of basic mobility for wait what to hear it. Say, one of the most fundamental ways to move around in town. We ought to be able at some point to like exercise, legislative and administrative fiat, to say, this is regrettable. We'll color it red if you want red sidewalk. I personally love the stone, but I am very able, you know, bodied and and fleet footed, and whatever I sure, if I was running around the neighborhood I wouldn't run on our sidewalks, cause I'm clumsy, so it's not. They're they're not up to standard, and for us to defer, I think, to frankly, my rich neighbors. On what should be a public policy. Decision is wrong

[86:06] there, ran Number 2. I was doing so well, and here we are in Maine. I'm. And I think. Thank you. I'll just say, you know, without taking an a opinion really on it. Right? Of course. Is that when we have a funding discussion as a city around the level of service that we can afford to provide for the future. I think those are really important points to bring up. Great Darcy, you have your hand up again, or still. That again, I just wanted to ask if that has. So the 50% partnership on sidewalk maintenance replacement has. So you say that, you know people are very adamant, that they want those flagstone sidewalks where they're historical?

[87:01] Is there? If could there be a cost argument to be made for improving, you know, like it would be cheaper for you if we did this. And and is there some way, I mean, I don't know if if the residents of that community, like Tila mentioned are just so committed to having that historical kind of precedent maintained. but you know there's a there's a really big cost differential, I imagine. There, you know, with with replacing and improving those sidewalks for the homeowners adjacent to them. So I don't know. I guess that's just a common. It's a good comment, Darcy. And the past when that that point was raised with residents. And in in the historic district. It it. It wasn't a persuasive one at that time. I have so many thoughts about landmarks. Historic districts. But oh, Darn, jen, raise your hand, so i'll defer to Jen.

[88:04] I just wanted to know as a flag to say like 9 an Ada violation. It's a good question. Garrett. Do you know. do does the flagstone once? It's, you know, once we've had a chance to go back and repair it. From, you know, just the aging kind of state that it's been in. Does it meet kind of our Ada standards? Yeah. So my understanding is that when it goes back and gets installed that it's done so consistent with our program criteria, where the horizontal and vertical displacement is within certain tolerances. th. The the challenge with that is that over time it this the sandstone is more likely to move than concrete. So at the time of installation it is in compliance. But there's not a guarantee that it will stay in that form over the years.

[89:09] Right, Mike. Sorry. Go ahead, Jen. I think that needs to be revisited because I don't. I mean, I know I'm new. I don't really know the road, but it seems to me every day compliant now, should not mean that it's okay in the future. Gotcha, Mike, go ahead. Oh, I I wanted to second. What? What Taylor raised about Making sure we come up with standards and move forward based on best practices. And as Taylor alluded to there are often

[90:01] well connected and loud voices that participate in any engagement that are not necessarily reflective of the population that Alexa City council. So I yeah, I understand there can be backlash to some things. that People who I believe in cars as the primary way of getting around might have. But I I hope we can come up with standards that recognize city where you know biking and walking are safe on on all of our streets that that aren't limited access highways. Thanks. I just wanna clarify my that. My comment was not so much about like the representativeness of of people in their opinions. But just that at a certain point,

[91:07] governmental expertise and legislative expertise and and engineering expertise is gonna give us the right answer for achieving some of the goals and the and the requirements. You know that we have as a municipality. And for some of these projects I really think that over engagement and or and over and and too high of an expectation of engagement by our community members, is getting in the way of us, actually achieving progress and our goals and meeting our responsibilities. But. So I I did. Wanna point out that the ability to use flagstone in sandstone is actually in city code, and I posted a link to that subsection in the chat. It's a section 8, dash, 2, dash, 17 part C. That says that if a property owner wants to use sandstone they can. So it's currently in the the residents have that right by city code today.

[92:11] Hmm. That's great. I'll I'll I'm curious. I'll take a look at that. I doubt that it has a like a heightened responsibility to maintain it. Cause, of course we know that you know, concrete panels can also lift up with trees over time. It's not necessarily, you know, so defective or concrete, is not necessarily completely superior all the time, but we, I think it is implicit in our conversation tonight that flags knows more likely to move than concrete. It is more likely to come out of compliance. And I think that's where Jen was suggesting. Maybe we need to revisit how we're thinking about it. Not that it's your job to think about it, Garrett. It's in the city code. That would be a city council thing. or perhaps city attorneys.

[93:03] Okay. Is this horse dead? Shall we move on? Sorry I let this go on so long. I'm seeing no further hands up from tab members. So with that we will close by agenda. Item 7. Thank you. everyone. And we'll move now to matters from staff. Thanks, Heila. We have a couple of matters tonight. Our first one will be assume ech avenue project update. And I think Garrett's kicking us off on that one's Garrett's the star of the show tonight. I think if alright. So I think Taylor might recall that we started the Sumac Avenue project back in 2018 2019 timeframe, and it was put on pause. It was one of the projects and efforts that was put on pause as a result to the financial impacts of Covid and we have now revive this project, and it is moving forward. And so a number of the residents are interested to hear where things stand with it, and John Mcfarlane, our transportation planner, and Roger Kane, our project manager, are here this evening to provide an Update on sumac.

[94:17] Yeah, thank you, Garrett, and good evening, Tab members. My name is John Mcfarlane, Senior transportation planner in the Planning Division. See me 1 s. Here. there we go. Okay? So yeah. As Garrett mentioned, I'll be giving an update on the seem like avenue project. Tonight. I'll be sharing information on project context and background past project work. As Garrett mentioned, it was paused in 2020 during Covid, our restart of the project, and then next steps.

[95:01] Okay. So the limits for improvements on Sumac Avenue are between Nineteenth Street, on the east and Broadway on the west, as shown in the map. On the right. Sumac Avenue is an important corridor, north boulder for East West connectivity to schools, recreational destinations, including crestview, elementary and Crestview Park on the corridor, private schools on the east end of the corridor. There's Tara performing arts and Boulder Waldorf on the east end, on nineteenth. and then also on the west end of the corridor is the Wonderland Lake Trailhead. In addition to improvements on Sumac, there are also several city projects currently in planning design and construction as shown on the map, and then future projects identified in transportation. Master Plan, that this project will connect into. So after this presentation, you'll hear more about the Nineteenth Street projects. But we've got the Nineteenth Street and 4 Mile Canyon Creek underpass project currently in construction between Sumac and Upland, and then beginning construction. Later. This spring is Nineteenth Street. Multimodal improvement projects between Norwood and Sumac.

[96:11] and then at the west end of the corridor, open space and mountain Parks is leading site improvements at Wonderland, lake Trailhead. Parks, and recreation is also leading planning and design of the future park on Violet, which will include a multi-use path connection on the 4 Mile Canyon Creek Corridor and future improvements to Violet Avenue with park development. And then, in the longer term, we are also pursuing. We're going to submit a safe route to school, grant application this fall for a missing sidewalk links project on the south side of Upland that would connect into the Nineteenth and 4 Mile Canyon Creek underpass, and could provide a future low stress connection to the future park on Violet with a future, a multi-use path completion here on Seventeenth Street, which is identified in the transportation Master Plan. and then, finally, the Sumac Avenue project is guided by the Transportation master plan which identifies missing sidewalk links on Sumac. Currently, there is only a sidewalk on the north side of Sumac, between Nineteenth and the western edge of Crestview Park

[97:13] and the low stress walking bike network plan also identifies sumac as a Neighborhood Green Street, between Nineteenth Street and Fifteenth Street. So due to do a poor local roadway drainage get discontinuous sidewalks and deteriorating pavement conditions. The project's main focus, when it began in 2019 was to address these needs. The project began in Spring 2019, but was paused in early 2020, due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and for staffing and financial reasons, and Franks on the left is a timeline. Before the project was paused. Through 2019 and early 2020 staff conducted an existing condition analysis and introduced the project to the Transportation Advisory Board in October of 2019

[98:01] staff also hosted a variety of public engagement opportunities, including 2 public open houses and other ways. Community members could provide input on the project, such as a partnership with growing up folder to learn how students and families of Crestview Su. Mac to travel to and from school. These efforts resulted in over 200 200 public comments on the Project staff also began concept design and presented several high-level streak design options for public feedback. In February 2,020, the design options focused on drainage sidewalks and on street parking during during engagement and in the 200 plus comments we received, we heard a strong preference from the community for curb and gutter drainage along the corridor, the need for a continuous sidewalk or multi-use path. and to preserve both on-street parking and landscaping, where feasible on the right is a timeline for the project. As we we started the work at the end of 2023.

[99:00] As we restarted concept design, we have had the opportunity to revisit public comments. We heard and introduce new project elements for public feedback. These include traffic calming measures to slow vehicle, speeds along the corridor, and working with open space and mountain parks to coordinate their site. Design improvements at the Wonderland Lake Trailhead, with a new pedestrian crossing at Sumac and Broadway. We are also working closely with our colleagues in parks and recreation on connections to the future Violet Park, and have discussed potential improvements with Crestview administration as well. Later this week on Wednesday, in a couple days here, we'll be hosting an in-person public open house to share designs with the community. As we move toward final design, we'll also be engaging property owners one-on-one and exploring funding options for the project. One option for funding could be exercising existing annexation agreements for project cost, sharing with residents. pending, funding, and permitting approvals, project construction could take place as early as the summer of 2,025.

[100:03] So, as I mentioned, our next step in the project will be hosting the public open House this Wednesday from 5 to 7 PM. At Crestview Elementary, and there's an opportunity for Board members to attend and share this opportunity with others. We'll also be posting the open house materials online via be heard boulder after the event, to provide an opportunity for those who are unable to attend to share feedback on the project. This concludes my presentation and update on the project, and we're happy to answer any questions you all may have. Thank you. I'm looking for hands in the hands. Tab looks like Darcy knows all about it. That's her in the picture. I know all about this, as you can see, I've been intimately involved. Yeah. So. I was 6 inches of hair ago. That was a long time ago. 2,019. A lot has happened since then, but I checked in with growing up boulder about these posters, and unfortunately they no longer have them. But I have sent

[101:13] the original photos to Mary Mincer if they want to get those reprinted, or I don't know if you have any interest in John, and having another set of these, or having it on a digital asset of some sort at the at the Open House. I think it would be valuable for the families who were originally involved in this project to see that their voices are still being heard. And but anyway, that aside, I appreciate that you've picked up this project again, and it's moving forward. It's it's of great value to that community, and we heard so many ideas and interests and comments from both crestview students and parents, but also property owners along

[102:02] sumac, who no longer have children at at Crossville or have kind of moved there since their families have moved on. So a lot of there's a lot of. There's a great variety of of interest in improvements to this this street, and I'm excited to hear what you hear. Unfortunately, I'm actually not going to be able to attend the open house on a Wednesday, as I hoped I would be able to. So I'm going to be at a retreat, but I hope it goes really well, and I'm eager to hear the outcomes from this, and I'm really excited just to see it moving forward. So thank you. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Darcy. And I would. Yeah, I would love to have the boards and be able to share them at the open house if you can. Send them my way. Great thanks. Anyone else. John, right at the end you hit on funding for this project, and I from from my vague memories of it before. I thought that this project was almost entirely funded by those.

[103:04] Oh, I don't know what you're calling them, but like. The Annexation agreements. Yeah, from the annexation agreements with individual landowners along here. Right it was. It was folded into their property. Purchase. Are you saying now that that's not sufficient to fund this the project, or I guess we don't know, because we haven't picked the final design up. I'll I'll I'll jump in and respond to that one, Tila and say so. The the annexation agreement obligations never required them to generally contribute more than half of the the total cost, and so th! The formula is still to be determined. But that's sort of a a general guideline for the for right now. Okay, and was half including the roadway. I for some reason I thought it was about half for the drainage and sidewalks.

[104:00] So unfortunately, the precise language of each of the annexation agreements is a little bit different. Some of them specify road. Some of them are are are less specific. And so we'll be working with the city attorney's office on what is reasonable as we move forward in the process. Interesting. Alright, thank you. I don't think we have any other hands. Appreciate the update. I also will not be able to make the fifteenth but carry on. Thank you. Thank you. And we have one more matters, item, and going to kick that one off as well on Nineteenth Street. Right? So there are, as a reminder 2 19 street projects that are taking place. One is the 4 Mile Canyon Creek underpass work between sumac and upland, which is already under construction and creating some travel impacts for those in North Boulder and then the other Nineteenth Street project is one that has been

[105:19] in the planning and design phase for some time, and we're very excited to now be in the construction phase, and Lindsay Merr's our project manager is here to provide an update about that one. Yeah. So it says, I can't share my screen. I have the presentation here. If you want me to share for my computer, Lindsey. Yeah, it just, says the host, disabled participant screen sharing. So I'm not able to. If you're able to. Garrett, that works.

[106:06] Can you try again? Okay. Okay, that's thank you. Hello, everyone. It's nice to be back at Tab presenting on this project. So this is the Nineteenth Street Multimodal Improvements project. So this is the project that runs from Norwood Avenue to just north of Sumac Avenue, and so, like, Garrett said, I'm just here to give kind of a project construction update. And so for from a project team and funding standpoint. So city staff. So I'm the project manager. Working on this project, and then John Mcfarlane, who just presented on sumac. He is the planner on this project. The contractor that was our low bid contractor was Goodland construction. Inc. With Ben Moreland, the project manager. I've worked with them before. They're they're great. If a any of you around. When we I did the Andris to airport phase one path. They are the ones that actually constructed that. So I'm really looking forward to working with them on this project

[107:04] funding for the Nineteenth Street multimodal comes from the transportation alternatives program, the tap funding from Ceda and then city transportation funds next one and so here's the project location. So, as Garrett had mentioned, and even John earlier, there are 2 19 street projects. So the 19 Street and 4 Mile Canyon Creek Underpass project is the project that's located up near Upland, and that's the project that's currently in construction right there in front of Crestview. This project picks up right there they actually tie and connect together, and then we we carry it south all the way down to Norwood, and and, as you can see, there's 4 schools, you know, right in the vicinity of both of these projects. And then there's a fire station up near Violet. So that's and then we have the 4 Mile Cany Creek and then Wonderland Creek. So just a lot happening in this in these 2 project locations. And so the construction well, let me actually go through con the scope of the project. So

[108:06] for the project, we're gonna install continuous sidewalks on both sides of Nineteenth Street. We're gonna upgrade the existing shoulder to buffered bike lanes. So any of the on street parking won't actually be there. But we're gonna put buffered bike lanes. Stripe buffered bike lanes. So it'd be similar to parts of Folsom. We're gonna install traffic calming, which is speed cushions. And we're gonna reduce this posted speed limit to 25 along that corridor, between Norwood and upland. And then we're going to upgrade and install pedestrian curb ramps and crossing enhancements. We're going to improve the Rtd bus stops. We're gonna replace the Wonderland Creek box culvert. It's actually currently just a pipe. It's gonna become a much larger box culvert. And then I'm installing new storms, sewer pipe and drainage inlets from Sumac down to Wonderland Creek. and construction timeline. And so that

[109:00] this project, the Nineteenth Street Multimodal Improvements project. We're just about to start that we've I would imagine, I believe, tree removal start the twenty-second. So we're what a week out from actually starting activity out in this area between Norwood and Zoomac, and construction will last until about August of next year, and then the underpass project started in march. And it's gonna take a couple of years. So till February of 2026, so we have a project website, the project website actually has both projects on that. We also have a project phone number that covers both both projects. And we're using boulder cone zones to kind of advertise some of the the impacts out there. And then we are coordinating directly with the schools as impacts and different things change. And so that wraps up the quick update on that one. This is great news. This is a long time coming.

[110:04] Yeah, I was gonna jump in and just say that this is a huge milestone, big congratulations to Lindsey on getting us to construction on this project. It has been a long time coming, and kind of a hard road at time, so. It's yeah. Thanks, Natalie. Yeah. Questions. Tab. Oh, Mike, go ahead. Your yellow hand blends in with your background. I just raised it. Second. Okay. So what is the the the situation there with? Are there any thing that is like a bike lane there? And what? What's the What would it take to get a protected bike lane there is that just is that a budget increase when when you do something like this?

[111:00] Yeah. So was your first question, what's there today? Is that was, is that your first? Yeah. So today, it depends which direction you're going southbound. It feels like a just a shoulder right? Because there's no curb. There's no sidewalk northbound. There's kind of a funky curb curb. We'll call it curb blocks right? And so that feels more like what a bike lane would feel like. And so then this project? This corridor, was identified as buffered bike lanes and Garrett remind me which plan that was identified in. I wanna say, the It's the the low stress bike plan from 2,019 recommends the Nineteenth Street to be a buffered bike lane treatment. Yes, thank you. So that's what you know. That's why that was carried forward so. Just, and that's a factor that depends on the traffic on that street. I assume. Correct. Correct. It's it's the traffic volume as well as the the travel speed. And as Lindsey noted that the project will also be incorporating speed mitigation as a project element which should reduce some of the the stress of vehicular traffic adjacent to those bike lanes.

[112:18] Thank you. Also the addition of sidewalks is going to help cause. You know, our city ordnance says you can ride your bike on the sidewalk and I remember, and I've done a couple of walkthroughs with, I think, with Lindsay on this project. I think I was the first time I met you. and we did note we did different times of day on purpose, but we noted sort of presence of young aged cyclists, which was sort of unusual from just, you know, man on the street perspective purely anecdotal. But we noted a a high number of kids already on that street, so it was also indicating to us that the stress level wasn't incredibly bad could be improved. And I think this will will help quite a lot.

[113:01] Lindsay. I remember that there were gosh! Because the profiles block to block and even property to property were different. There were a whole lot of concerns about the drainage, and maybe using trying to not use eminent domain, but that some of the properties appeared to sort of encroach into the public sphere, and we were talking about maybe having to acquire right of way by by might or by money. How did that go. Yeah, we we did so. There were, I believe, we landed on. Well, 4 permanent easement. Unfortunately, one of the residents ended up passing away, and the city ended up purchasing this property. So I think we landed on 3 permanent easements. One was pretty considerable. It was the one on the east side of Wonderland Creek, but that also became a flood and drainagement. That wasn't that was really kind of expanding. The fact that there should have probably always been a flood and drainage. So we landed, I think, on 3 per minutes, and then about 22 temporary easements, and so those are just to be able to tie driveways back in. But but really the nature of the design with the new storm system and the new box from a drainage standpoint. I'm really

[114:11] the goal. The ultimate goal, when it related to drainage, was to not change it really from what it's wanting to do today. And, in fact, really try to improve it, which we know will happen. I'd say, probably in most places, because we're taking that kind of sheet flow, and we're, you know, we're collecting it and and dropping it into roadside ditches, which you know I will work to improve and make better. And so yeah, we didn't actually have to do any type of major acquisition. Okay, that's great. Yeah. What is the plan for now that there's a bus and a bike lane and a buffered bike lane? What's the plan at the bus stops. What's the nature of the bus stop improvements actually. The bus stops improvements. So it's going to be just the buses will pull off and block the bike lane right? So we're not doing any type of floating bus islands. It they'll actually just pull over to the transit stops the the improvements really come from. I don't know it. How often you've driven out, or people have used or walk nineteenth.

[115:14] We have bus stops literally now that are like grass ditches. I mean, there's literally a sign in right right up there north of Quincis. One or right there south of Redwood is one example. And so we're going to just provide a landing space for people. In some instances it's a in like a a detached sidewalk area. So it's a dedicated little pad for the bus stop, and then some cases it is that the sidewalk will operate as the transit stop. But just that in and up itself will become an improvement. But yeah, the bus will actually pull over, pick up, and then pull back into the travel, lead. I recall at 1 point we were talking about trying to install benches, at least in some of these more heavily, more frequently used stops along here. I think the answer that I got at the time was, we would have to approach Rtd. For funding for that.

[116:04] I have no idea if there was any follow through. Are there any benches happening. There are benches happening. Not every bus stop. So not every bus. Stop warranted it. And bike. And actually, I don't think we're doing any bike racks. None of them warranted the bike racks. We just weren't see seeing that type of use, though that doesn't negate being able to put those in in the future. And so but yeah, I'd say the stops where you see the either the makeshift benches. I believe there's 3 for both projects, and they're the southbound direction. Primarily the northbound. We found people weren't really milling around to need the benching. But yes, so I I wanna say there's 2 or 3 that are getting a bench. Grace. Yep. Any other questions on this. Thanks, Lindsay. Thanks for including the Project web page, which reminded me I had a question way up on Pmp. Ask.

[117:04] You're welcome. Thank you. Guys. Thank you. If I can ask a quick question back on the pmp, item 7, it is this. the if members of the public wanted to find out like, when is my street gonna be? Instead of putting in an inquiry, bold or ticket, or whatever where would they look to find out where their street of concern is on the schedule. I'm not sure if James is still with us. If you're here, James, feel free to chime in. But I'll I'll jump in and say that typically as we're looking out ahead with the pmp, we're not super eager to share beyond the next year, because so much can change in a in a year to year, depending on how hard the the winter is, how hard the how much precipitation we might get and and and contractor pricing, changing from year to year others, James. So I'll stop talking to let him speak.

[118:03] Oh, yeah, so yeah, just continuing that. Yeah. So there's a lot of variability, the the plan. So it could change quite a bit. We do have the payment management website up and are sharing a map out of the current year. Of this year. Okay, yeah. Of this year. We actually put a quite a bit of work into this, the the website this year and made it a more accessible map that they could kinda navigate through and see what kind of treatments are coming up to their streets. And we are working on kind of a more out your look plan. Whether we share it out with the public. I'll kind of work with Garrett on that. Okay. But. But yeah, right now, just kinda requesting where my street is and kind of where where it is is. Is is there. That's how we're handling them. Yeah, okay. Alright. Thank you. Sorry I forgot to do that. One. Thanks for sticking around

[119:03] alright any other questions on this item on Nineteenth Street projects. Yes, Darcy. Just one quick thing. So one of the things we found I when I was working with growing up Boulder on Nineteenth Street in general, not just soon back, but Nineteenth Street we saw a lot of issues with crossings, with pedestrian crossings on Nineteenth Street, and just drivers not yielding especially to young people, as they were waiting to cross the stray, and wondering what improvements are going to be made to those crossings. And if there are some Rfps or anything else going in on Nineteenth Street. I don't know if I think she. It did. Is Lynn. Did Lindsay drop off. Ran away. Dropped off. Sorry I should have asked earlier, but that was a big issue, that we noticed that that the crossings on Nineteenth Street were really problematic, and I'm hoping that those will be improved as well, not just the sidewalks, which is also essential, because there are so many missing links along there. So that's really wonderful.

[120:07] Yeah. And is it true, now that she's gone, this is true, that this only goes from the north side of Norwood. It doesn't actually include the Norwit intersection. Like, I remember that. Okay. Correct. She shows. Looks like the green line goes to the bottom of the Norwood intersection. So just be careful that because it was a big point of contention before. I don't know if James or Garrett have have information about the crossings, but we can certainly just follow up with information regarding question. And I'll just jump into. We are looking at north of Norwood for payment management, right payment, new improvements there. So I think. in future years on the heels of the project, we'll look to see what we can do there. Okay, yeah, there is a lot of consternation, part largely because of speeds and sight lines. But that intersection itself is a problem as opposed to north of that. Okay.

[121:04] we do what we do when we can do it. Thank you. So I think that's it. Now on that one and so we will move to matters from the board. Let's quickly revisit representatives and alternates for just the 2 committees that we have identified as likely to need some tab input. Jen, you weren't here here for, excuse me. so there are 2 kind of often there's there's some ongoing collaboration, or sometimes multi board things going on where we need to send a representative of Tab to participate on behalf of Tab, and then come back and report what happened. This year. We are anticipating we'll need a tab member to participate with a vision. 0 community partnership committee and then one for the pedestrian Crossing treatment installation guidelines, working group and I've been involved with it with

[122:02] Division 0 one for this next year. I believe Trini wanted to take that on, and I was the alternate there's you know, under our rules 2 tab members can go no more than 2. But we pick one person who's kinda gonna be committed to it and and the alternate will be the next one in line. But in in any one of these. If a chat member has an interest in in the particular meeting, you can still go as long as it's not more than 2 of us attending. But I was curious, Jen, in particular. I'm gonna put you on the spot wondering if you wanted to be involved with the pedestrian crossing treatment installation guidelines, working group. Darcy, of course, has done a lot of work with watching stuff around here. But we thought that you might have a perspective, and I don't recall what the kind of time commitment was looking like, but I think it's going to pick up pretty quickly and also wrap up pretty quickly as I recall. Yeah. In fact, we just had a meeting this past week. So I wanted to mention that that I was there, and Trinny was also there. But I am happy to yield my space on that committee to Jen if she's interested.

[123:08] yeah. So yeah. Trini and I were both on that meeting this past week with. How many, how many meetings. Means? Do you. Think they're gonna have. They said there was just going to be. In fact, I I'm sorry I wasn't prepared. I should have brought that up. I don't. I have it in my work email, and I can't see it right now. But, There was just like one other meeting this fall, scheduled as far as I could tell. So one, you know, and it was a it was a substantial like an hour and a half meeting, and then there will be another one in September. I think so. You know. Low demand, but important for upgrading the guidelines. So if Jen, that's something you'd like to be involved with. I'm happy to yield my my space to you. I did so much, doing much. Okay. thanks. Appreciate that. Thanks, Darcy, for going. I do say, with your you know your prior experience. You're the right person for this one. So.

[124:04] Yeah. And I was invited directly, and I. So I just you know, it just made sense for me to go because I had been part of the pedestrian advisory committee and all these other things. And so it just kind of made sense for me to to be there. But but yeah, we can. You know, looking forward, we can designate someone else if we like. Sure. Mike, do you wanna be the alternate for this. since we don't really have you in the wings for anything in particular, or we could just push you back on training. If there's only one more meeting. She's already been to the first one. and she's not here. I can volunteer. No, I'd be happy to attend as well the. Okay? Well, we'll put you. We'll put you down for alternate and see what happens with the timing for the next meeting. Okay. That sound? Okay, yeah. Appreciate that. Thank you. Okay. I'll set Meredith on that. I can't hear you.

[125:01] I was just hoping for a thumbs up. Meredith is muted. There you go! So sorry. So sorry. Yeah. okay, so Jenny's primary and Mike is alternate. Is that correct? No, Darcy is primary. Rfc. Is going to remain. Thank. Yes, Darcy will remain. Okay, got it. Thank you. Okay, thank you. That's why I checked. Okay, let's quickly talk about the retreat. All of you were available in the what did we say 9 to one timeframe. And to. 10 to 2. Thank you. 10 to 2 and all of us preferred an in person meeting. My understanding is we're still working on a meeting location. But I'm hopeful we will be able to PIN one down and keep you posted. With asking for input about what the agenda might look like. And then also talking sort of with Staff and with Natalie about

[126:08] timing and things. I think there's gonna be 3 main things that we talk about with some time for some getting to know you stuff and some breaks and some I don't know side conversations we will be meeting approximately, I don't know. I would guess. 45 min to an hour with someone from the city attorney's office. We'll be talking about communications, emails and potentially policies and procedures. About how tab operates. So sort of formalizing. just just the way that we operate and interact with staff. It's something that other boards do have, not all of them. And this board doesn't. and we'll talk about whether we want to, whether we need to. It's kind of reviving an effort that came up a couple of years ago. With Prior tabs. I would like to include an item for about an hour. Just kind of talking about communication efforts.

[127:02] Specifically how we work, you know, as tab go over a little bit sort of talking to the press. I think sometimes we get calls, you know, to speak on our behalf, and just things to be cautious of, but also I would like to have more robust discussion with Staff about how we can sort of help city staff in the City Communications Office get their messaging across and kind of be more united if we wanna be united also how to how to disagree with what we think is going on. But I would like to have a a about an hour discussion of that, and I think we'll probably also at the beginning of that hope to get a little bit of insight from the city attorney's office. If that hasn't already been discussed in our sort of general tap communications and emails sort of item. And then, Mike has raised an interest, and I think it's a good one to talk about sort of our budgeting and spending and kind of along the lines of what we were discussing before. Just how to

[128:02] think about. You know the scope of what we are asked to weigh in on the scope of things we shouldn't necessarily be weighing in on how nit picky we should or shouldn't be and where we can be useful on helping sort of support staff in its longer term, planning efforts and spending and budgeting efforts. And I'm not really sure how that's gonna flesh out, Mike. I would like to talk to you a little bit more about that. But I'm hoping to get you a draft agenda at some point on Friday that we'll have a meeting with city staff in the morning. and we'll hopefully PIN down a a location and more of a an agenda. If there's something else that you would like to see. on the retreat agenda. This is kind of the last call. Email me if you don't wanna raise it right now. Call me. You know how to reach me. But I will be trying to finalize this on Friday, but that's what it looks like to me at the moment.

[129:02] Mike. Yeah. Point of information. sounds like this is a public meeting, and what does that entail in terms of? Is it being. One of the ones where the public can watch. But there's no public input, so there's no public hearing. There's no public comment. I'm trying to remember in the Prior in person meetings. Did we ever have someone come in person? I think we probably did. But they just kind of watch. And and it will be broadcast on the Internet. That's a fine question. Let's just say, when we did the in person ones before, it wasn't. Okay. Okay. But Covid is happening. And now zoom is happening, and so I don't know. Probably I I mean, I would guess so. Is that right, Natalie. We don't know. Yeah. So what I will try to do is when we're working on a location, we'll work on a location that we can.

[130:04] Okay. That it can be, you know, a high. We have to be clear. We have always recorded it, Mike. So there's always been a like an audio recording available just like any other meeting. And so yes, that will be recorded. But whether it'll be kind of live time like this I don't know. Yep. Good question anything else on that. No fires to put out at the moment. Great open board. Comment. Anyone have anything they want to raise that we haven't already been conjugating about. I think I just have one thing, if I'm if I'm not seeing any hands and it's something that Natalie and I have talked about before kind of on our walks around town. But it has really come up quite frequently, I think, mostly from emails, from community cycles and and some

[131:03] I think. Well placed iron about different construction areas. that oftentimes the construction. you know, there's materials that are stored in the public right of way. There's fencing that closes off a sidewalk. There's stuff that gets in the way. Signage alerting, you know, people to to a a work zone coming up, and that signage is plunk in the bike Lane kind of thing, and it just feels like we don't understand. We members of the public trying to use our our public right of way in different modes. Don't understand why. Sometimes construction projects can take up. Take up the sidewalk for a week or longer and really complicate things for these vulnerable users without any apparent forethought. Oversight? An alternative being provided. And so I'm just wanting to. It may be for a future meeting, but I think it is something worth thinking about. I think, Natalie, when you and I were walking around like. Now, why is this allowed? You said, Okay, that's actually not allowed. And I will call, you know the right away management. Something like that. And sure enough the next day that you know that big

[132:21] piece of machinery was not blocking the sidewalk anymore. But it was 4 days later, just like what what happens when it's violated, and in particular, some of these are clearly when they're fenced off. The construction prod. The construction crew might not have done it properly. So. There was the church on South Broadway that blocked off the sidewalk, and they shouldn't have with their with their chain link fencing, so I would just like to have a little bit more clarity and discussion. About what the rules are about preserving cyclist and pedestrian access in particular, in in connection Aaron. adjacent to construction zone, because it seems to be all over the place. But if it happened in a mo in the roadway, if it was taking up a motor vehicle Lane, the way that it takes up sidewalks and bike lanes we would never sit for it

[133:15] there rant 3 of the evening. Sheesh! Something's gotten into me. Anything else open board comment from anybody else. I gather Natalie doesn't want to respond to my rent, but that's okay. I'm not sure that I have an answer to it, Mike. You know, I think as we've discussed like there are opportunities potentially with you know, with development review as projects are in that period in which they're starting construction. I I think frankly like it gets to staffing resource constraints. We have, you know, just a very limited team of people in our on our right away team. And so I think it's probably

[134:11] not possible for us to kind of be babysitting every project that's happening. And so oftentimes it is that reactive like. Described. but I think you know, it's something that we we certainly recognize is there's an opportunity there. I just don't know that we have like a solution that I can speak to tonight. Sure. And yeah, as soon as you know. If others from the team, Garrett, about. If you have anything you wanna speak to, please. There's conspicuous silence. That's okay. Ye. Yeah, I can jump in here and just speak to what I understand of the challenge that Natalie is referencing. So I would, say I I I'd like to think that we're pretty good on the capital projects in terms of not having these sudden surprises where the sidewalks suddenly close, that we provide detours or notification in advance. We're not perfect, but we try really really hard where, if we have to do a closure that we provide advance notification to go to the other side of the street, either at a pet crossing or traffic signal, and so on, and so forth.

[135:19] That same practice doesn't always occur on the private development projects and on our capital improvement projects. We have the staffing and resources to make sure that those controls and those detour notifications are are put in place. The average right of way inspector for private development has 30 to 40 different projects that they're inspecting any given time. And so they're not able to sit on a project like we are on the capital projects where we have staff devoted to just that one project. and and and monitor it so I don't know what the easy answer is, but I can tell you that there is a disparate level of staffing and resource that goes to the private development enforcement versus the capital enforcement.

[136:06] I wonder if finds for not complying were worse? If suddenly private developers might summon the resources to appropriately follow their responsibilities? I mean, I'm assuming with in terms of the development Review and and and those right away permits, that there is a checklist that says what you do if you're blocking a by a bike lane or or sidewalk. is that a safe assumption, or am I polyganish? Again. I I I'm not familiar enough with the the that side of our, our, our organization to be able to speak to it. So I I don't want to conjecture. Sure. Alright. Well, I appreciate your your response, and I like. I said I would like to raise this. You know more depth in the future, because it it does keep arising. And I think it. It does affect Our.

[137:01] I think it affects the city's credibility about whether it's actually prioritizing the things that it says. It's wanting to prioritize. And this is a really good place when we say we're making improvements. And we're doing this for multimodal stuff. But in the meantime I'm sorry you're gonna have to go. you know. Go play in traffic literally. So I think we can try to help you do better on that. Help the the city do better on that. Yes, Mike. Yeah, I don't know who to address this to. But this is really about the Cu project on Broadway. with University and Grand view. Where there seems to be an issue, where the the bike path and the pedestrian sidewalk have to cross over, and they've chosen that place to be a grand you, which is on a downhill, which is been noted as a

[138:00] a dangerous place for that to happen, and it would be better to to have that happen up at at university. Does does the city have any say in in this design? That's that's happening right now. Mike, are you asking about a like a detour. No, no, this is the perfect. I'm talking about when they cross sides when pads go from being next to the street to being on the other side. Oh, yeah, on the as they pass the intersection. So. Hmm. and I I'm not sure where the construction is at right now. Garrett. feel free to to jump in. If you have, you know just more timely information on this. but we will push that further, you know, past the intersection so that that change isn't having to happen right as they like, you know. Get through the intersection. That's going to be addressed. And it will be, you know, it'll basically just happen a little bit further. I don't know the exact number of feet that we ended up where we landed with Cu garret. But I don't know. Has that condition

[139:16] been put in place yet? Or is that to come. It. It's still to come. And my understanding, according to the last update, was, it was supposed to be late this year. I and I don't have regular updates from that project team, so I don't know if they're on schedule, or if they're running behind. But the last I'd heard it was supposed to be later this year. Yeah, and that's something. I'm happy to follow on that, just to get a status update to understand when that would be addressed. So you're saying that crossing will happen downhill further. Yeah, it'll happen further downhill instead of further uphill. Right. because there was the recognition that having that occur, basically right, as you know, people get through. The intersection is not great, because there's a lot going on, and so it will just be further down.

[140:09] So it. Yeah. I don't think there was some thought that pushing it up to university might be better, because it's not downhill but you're saying that the intersection complicates that. Yeah. So Through the design process we it was recommended that the current configuration with the bikes on the the bikes are on the East Side, right their shop on the East Side. That inner that intersection that was the recommended design. But then there was the recognition that once you get to Grand View and get through Grand View.

[141:00] they were, as it's shown today, is it? Come? They have to immediately. Bikes have to then be on the outer outside lane, and we're trying to address that so that they continue on the inner on the inside lane further down the hip. So that that conflict just isn't happening at the intersection, basically, or that decision. So it's a happy. The intersection. Okay. yeah, I guess it. You know. Obviously, when you get down to the arboretum that the bike lane takes off to. Yeah. So. And so we're trying to meet that condition. The issue. I'm wondering why is, you know it looks like it. Previously the bike lane was on the East Side this hole way. But but now it's moving. Mike, I'm gonna suggest that we take this conversation sort of out of the the Tab meeting. We don't really need to like all of staff and members of the public to come through this but I'm sure we can find if if it might be better, just from an email exchange. I don't know.

[142:13] Yeah, I'm happy to. And Mike, I can. Just I. We can talk too. I'm happy to connect with you, and we can talk through. We've had a we've had a lot of conversations. There's been a lot of talk about. Chris. So I'm happy. Yeah, I'm happy to reach out to you. Okay, thank you. Appreciate that. Alright. Any other open board comment for now lovely future agenda topics. If anyone has anything to raise now or by next. Well, we can talk about it at the Retreat, too. So but, as I said, I'm I'm here you know how to find me. You know how to email me. And I'll even if I see it's you, I'll even answer my phone. That's special tab treatment. So let me know if you have any ideas for future agenda topics, but otherwise I will be happy to entertain a motion to adjourn.

[143:07] I move to adjourn the meeting. 1 min early, Darcy kitching. We have a second. I second. Thank you all good. Alright. If we wouldn't move to adjourn Jen. If I can't see you. we gotta vote you, anyway. So thank you we're adjourned. Have a good night. We'll see you next time. Thanks everyone, appreciate it. Next Monday. Thanks, Natalie. Thank you. Bye.