November 8, 2021 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting
Date: 2021-11-08 Body: Transportation Advisory Board Type: Regular Meeting Recording: YouTube
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[0:01] Alright, we are recording. Thank you very much. Let people in. looks like excellent all right good at 6pm on Monday November 8 and one i'm calling this meat of the transportation Advisory Board to order Thank you so much for joining us i'm going to remember this time. To have our technical host for the evening walk us through durrell's we do not have it, I guess we're a public area. um this evening and things run as smoothly as they're scheduled to, then we should have a nice early night, relatively speaking, for us to go ahead and allison with walk us through and we'll get started. Alright, thank you to everyone, my name is Alice and i'll be your technical host this evening i'm just here to go over a few of the technical roles for the evening. This meeting has been called to conduct the business of the city of boulder activities that disrupt delay or otherwise interfere with the meeting are prohibited.
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[2:00] If any attendee attempts to use the chat for any other reason other than seeking assistance from the host the city reserves the right to disable that individuals access to chat. Only the coast and that individuals doesn't end by the host will be permitted to share their screen during me thanks to lead back to you. Thanks very much allison alright, my first substantive order of business is he is the approval of the Minutes from our October meeting. Again, if anyone has any changes or amendments to the Minutes, assuming you've had a chance to review them. But do let me know i'm only seeing to other TEAM members on camera. So Alex or have you have some changes to shoot me a Oh, I went off video now. I can't see me Alex hi there. I don't know why my video just went off for the host stopped my video it says, but in any event i'm still here, I have no changes to the Minutes does anyone else have any changes to the Minutes.
[3:04] see a nun I will entertain a motion to approve the. minutes. move to approve. up into the right. box. All right, near the scada. allison i'm being told I can't turn on my video. i'll let you guys started out in the meantime, however, all in favor of approving the Minutes from October 123 I say I. Respect in it, you will need a second. I think you seconded it Ryan one second okay. yeah. All right, the Minutes are approved thanks very much. Nice job again Secretary home minutes. Alright, the next item of business, the World Day of Remembrance devote road traffic victims will be held this year worldwide November 21 I have item on here that Erica will be driving.
[4:04] Okay, I was able to turn off my mute so I can do that. So. Thank you um tab board members really appreciate it, I know that we have spoken extensively about Vision Zero and the need for safe in our Community. So we have with us a guest today treaty weller 10 who's going to be talking more about her cause. Direct as Director of it could be me and then also about the World Day of Remembrance, this is an international that started in 2005. And it honors 1.35 million people who've been killed and millions more injured on the world's road each year and organizing for changed prevent such tragedies, given our extensive discussion. And I know the past, this is something I have full confidence that we all support.
[5:00] The event is taking on extra urgency, as the number of people dying and severely injured in preventable chopper crashes, the US is rising an alarming rate. The first half of 2021 18.4% more people died in road traffic crashes compared to 2020 according to the US Department of Transportation now that's across the United States. Last year overall over 42,000 people died on us roads, which was a 24% spike over the prior year and the rate of traffic deaths, this is the highest in 96 years according to the national safety Council. This event also recognizes emergency responders because they're so critical. Our police and fire departments were the first to arrive on scene to provide immediate assistance and care to those who are injured and we honor the strength and courage of these people provide the critical service charge community. Both the city of boulder and boulder county with unfortunately experienced several traffic CAP related fatalities and severe injuries this year alone.
[6:06] And we're greatly disturbed by this these crashes affect everyone people walking people cycling people driving and these crashes also affect the hundreds of friends and family members be systems symptoms. are returned work through the Vision Zero Community partnership is crucial to involve local governments and Community stakeholders to get behind Vision Zero and to develop and implement a coordinated approach to improve safety. And within the city of boulder our work together on the safe streets report provides the background and how severe crashes happen. Who, they are happening to and where they are occurring this information, plus the corresponding Vision Zero action plan provides the roadmap to identify the right steps to take so that we can work toward improving safety on our words for all.
[7:00] With that, I would like to introduce you to treating will attend to have some words of inspiration and coalesce this for all of us training. Thank you so much Eric and thank you for everybody to who's here for having me be here with you guys. So I am the founder and President of a could be me it's a 501 C three nonprofit our mission is basically to improve the relationship between motorists and all users off the road by creating an environment of mutual respect. I was very fortunate to get invited to join a coalition with Vision Zero and families for safe streets to. To ask for support on this zero traffic that's resolution, which is in Congress right now and we've been working together on several efforts among them, the World Day of Remembrance and it's just to me it's been.
[8:00] Well it's been very sad and very motivating at the same time, to share the space with these people. And it could be me we have about 300 ambassadors and, most of us are crushed survivors with families for safe streets they have their members are all survivors have family. Members that have been killed so i've been on these calls for the last six months or so sharing the stage with people that have. lost their children and have lost their parents and it's just been it's been very mind opening much. More than anything, it the the the fact that all these things could have been avoided. is just mind blowing to me, and that we have the resources, and we have the information we have a plan to make things better and to really get to zero so with that that this effort to just remember all those.
[9:07] People. are so important, we have been coordinating with David camp and we have. event planning. And for the 21st of November, we will meet at Pearl street on street well that intersection and we will be giving out in lieu of candles will be giving out. Little bike lights and we're donating some little strips that are also reflective and we will walk with these people and get to ninth street and just remember all these people that we've lost needlessly and just it's it's just such a shame, but at the same time it's to. Strengthen to. Get inspired by these people, because if they can survive these horrible tragedies, I think we can all.
[10:02] And we owe it to them to make things better and that's my approach to everything that I do I think that. You know i'm just so fortunate i'm a crash survivor myself and I honestly, thank God, every day, for having the opportunity to be here and to be alive and to watch my kids grow up so a lot of people don't have that. And so yeah so thank you so much for this opportunity and it's going to be a great event I hope everybody can join us and yeah and I hope the weather cooperates as well. What time will it start. i'm sorry, so it starts at 530 and it goes on to 630 and again we'll meet on 15 street and pro and just walk on Pearl street to ninth street. So that's walking the pedestrian mall. Yes. Okay. I appreciate your work, I remember when.
[11:02] The it could be me campaign was presented at the visions or a partnership meeting a couple of years ago. yeah. yeah. We were in a room, because we were. So it, you know, and I do I do recognize as someone who's been doing advocacy work on this time saver years as well how much dedication, it takes and how. how difficult it is to remain positive and hopeful. When it feels that change is. happening too slowly. So I commend you for for your work and your drive I was curious if. If. Something would come up that. And when I was on a conference call about world remember say I didn't see any other attendees from boulder so good job decay and city staff for figuring out and event appreciate that I wish that there was a. plan to have it more visible to motorists. I would say. walking on the pedestrian mall is an easy place to do this.
[12:00] and we're actually trying to to raise motorist attention to the harm that occurs and the impact that it has on real people and their families, I would encourage us to in future events to try to make it as visible as possible, but I appreciate the effort on this one, thank you. Thank you. anyone else tab like to comment here. Ryan. Good I just say thank you 20 stories is training or training. Training training just wanted to say thank you and I am I live in not close to iris in North boulder and I have seen at least one of the the murals on the fence line there and I said before, I was on tablets, I thought was great and I just really appreciated that appreciate that and. applaud you for your efforts and really, really, really happy that you're out there, raising awareness about this.
[13:00] issue, which is not, which is something that a lot of people just most people don't think about they don't think about it, unless you've been personally affected and i'm just really grateful for your. Thank you, and I just want to I guess pitch in the car traffic deaths resolution which is it's just such a light of hope for all of this that's happening. Port that we're getting I have personally been involved in about 20 some calls i've been leading these meetings and the response. And 47 co sponsors, as of today and we're continuing to get a lot of support and it's like I said i've been participating in these calls with people that have lost loved ones and I just. i'm a computer I you know I bike with my little boys school every day and I just i'm just so grateful to have them with me. Well, thank you for joining us Erica, thank you for putting this on.
[14:03] Thank you. Thank you Taylor and. Of course we'll be talking a little later tonight about the safe streets report, which is a good place to start about not just building support, but what the heck did we do so. Thanks very much. All right, we will move on now to have a public comment, since our usual comment period where members of the public are able to speak to us. and speak their minds have three minutes to let us know what you're thinking what's on your mind, but if you are interested in joining the public comment, please raise your hand. With Terrence millis asking to comment in the chat so. yeah and so Terrence and then i'll have lens so Terrence i'm going to ask you to unmute so you should be able to unmute yourself. Okay, just one moment i'll put the three minute timer in my. backgrounds, so you know what you're just all right.
[15:05] Great Thank you meredith so so board thank thanks for the opportunity to comment here. I, I had asked meredith to share a two page memo that I provided and i'm not in the habit of sending memos to boards, but I thought it was worthwhile to send some pictures which are in the memo I sent and and what i'm what i'm asking for go ahead. Sorry. i'm asking the board, please consider adding a crosswalk that traverses spine road where it crosses South otter creek circle and Wellington road and. A crosswalk has has become more urgently needed. Because CREST few elementary has established a bus stop right there at that intersection and you can see in the pictures in that memo.
[16:06] The kids lining up to get on the bus and at that time of the morning, there are a lot of cars traveling down spine that's one item I wish you'd consider and then also to please consider revisiting the complex project point tally that. was captured in the neighborhood speed management program that intersection and that portion of spine is one of the projects on that list and it's now on it's now the knife project on the list. And it's been on that list for a couple of years and there hasn't been much of anything done on that road to slow traffic down, except for posting the blue signs that indicate this as part of the neighborhood speed management Program. And I believe right now that Kelly is incorrect, because it doesn't capture accidents that have occurred there and the past few years, and if those were captured.
[17:06] I believe this spine road project would be number one on the list again thanks for your time and I appreciate that you're trying to balance limited resources to make our streets safe i'd love to see this spot on the road, be more of a priority, thank you. Thank you Karen. Thank you terrance next up I have Lynn Lynn i'm going to ask you to unmute right now and just one moment i'll reset the timer. 700 parking spaces at the millennium. Count that 700 300 up at 311 stapleton. You know, it could be me to the way things are going in boulder This is utterly unacceptable that.
[18:02] The City of boulder does not Sue. See you. To cap enrollment that's what you need to recommend as responsible members of transportation Advisory Board. Because, as I was just walking past. In front of whole foods, the other day just listening to conversation have a guy on the phone. If they pass a Su South it's going to grow boulder three times the size that is now and you don't doubt it at all, and it doesn't matter if it's going to be at North or not. We don't have to babysit see where they should expand, I can tell you one place, they could expand would be directly west of Jenny carruthers biotech you know but i'm not there babysitter they can figure out where they expand and and i'm also not their compliance, you know the olive. has got these micro units there you know with a car for every space, you know and we aren't producing the kind of housing, that we should be at Alpine balsam should be Martha housing because that's communal it tends to use a lot less cars.
[19:16] The student housing at the millenniums going to be uber uber expensive and 700 spaces, this is just not not workable, you know you might as well ask to be the next one that's going to get off on your on your bike and I drive my car once every six months. And you know another thing I could see that would be nice is that there's more more liberal things for bikers to do. In the cold in the extreme weather here, people are protected in their cars they're heated or their cooled appropriately, you know we out in the extreme weather should be able to go through.
[20:04] A crosswalk when there's nobody in the intersection instead of standing there waiting or where there's situations where cars can really somehow be more considerate of the the extreme conditions that bicyclists are exposed to. And, and also the lights could be automated much better, I see so many empty intersections and everybody's sitting there waiting. And the emissions are building up as everyone's waiting, we have Ai to easily be able to do these things if we weren't just building and building and building like see you. Thank God that. CAP enrollment is see that's what has to be done. Thanks. All right, to you, I don't see any more hands up at the moment.
[21:05] And I see that I was on mute that's the problem. Thanks very much. To karen's melissa's point I do remember your email coming through Sir, thank you for. joining us again this evening we did. sort of check in with staff to see what the scheduling looks like, for we have a placeholder and a plan to read to have a look at how we score projects with the SMP. And so, while we're trying to beat the weather and get things that have been planned and scored under the existing system on the ground, we are sensitive to feedback like yours. about how we can better prioritize it's always something that we're we're looking to do, and so that is on on our radar it's something we will turn to probably early. Next year, but it is, it is an active item that we have, so I appreciate your persistence on this and don't don't think we're ignoring. have a lot of a lot of things to get to, but we will be thinking hard about how we prioritize and s&p projects in the future.
[22:03] All right. I see no further hands, so we will go ahead and close the public comment portion of the meeting. And we will move right in now to Item number five staff briefing is happy back on the safe streets report. All right, good evening, let me share my screen. hi nice to see you. Thank you good to see you as well. Okay, can you see my screen now. All right, can everyone see my screen. Yes. Okay, thank you all right, well, good evening everyone, my name is Devon jocelyn i'm the principal traffic engineer for the city and i've been serving as the project manager for the safe streets report update. And tonight i'm going to be presenting the work that our project team has done so far and I really just want to thank the project team for their efforts on this it's been a very heavy lift with lots of data to analyze I really appreciate the team's attention to detail on this.
[23:16] or four main things I want to talk about tonight I do want to let you know that the presentation should take about 25 minutes, or so we wanted to allow a little more time for the presentation tonight because there is so much material to. However, given that we have about an hour for this agenda item we do feel that that would reserve time for discussion at the end, I know, there was a lot of material, both in the memo and in your packet and there is a lot to take in with this. So, just a brief introduction. reminding everyone as we've kind of heard already tonight that really the goal of Vision Zero is holders goal to eliminate all severe traffic crashes involving people using all modes of travel and there are five.
[24:06] Key objectives to that and really the the point to emphasize here is that it takes a concerted and coordinated effort between the four e's to really achieve that Vision Zero. And I want to point out here just what the safe streets report is the safe streets report is the summary of quantitative data on crashes. that have occurred during a specific time frame within the city of boulder in this case we're on the fourth edition of the report and that analyzed crash data for the period 2018 through 2020. The information and the report is used to identify prioritize plan and implement responses to crashes to improve travel safety within the city. One of the four e's is evaluation and that has to do with why what and when, and when you're talking about crashes.
[25:05] there's A Vision Zero guiding principle that states, you really need to use a people focused data driven action oriented and interdisciplinary approach to carrying out the for ease. As I alluded to earlier and really one way we do this is through the completion of the safe streets report because it allows us to. reflect upon and evaluate the effectiveness of engineering improvements enforcement tactics and educational outreach that has been conducted to see how much progress has been made or not or identify certain trends that may have emerged within the most recent three year period. And we look at that three year period, just to allow us to digest the data on a regular basis, and continue to identify areas in the city that would be most advantageous to deploy crush countermeasures.
[26:02] So again, this is just a brief timeline of the safe streets report and its history, you can see, the first publication was back in 2009. and looked at data from 2009 through 2011 in 2014 the city adopted Vision Zero in the transportation master plan and then we've had two subsequent updates to that and we're now on the fourth edition looking at 2018 through 20. Just to get everyone on the same page when we talk what a severe crash is we are referring to crashes that result in a fatality or an incapacitating injury. That is what we consider a severe crash, and this is in line with many other visions hero cities, who have the goal of reducing all fatal or incapacitating injury crashes. And you'll see that we group these two crash types together and refer to them as severe crashes throughout this presentation and within the safe streets report.
[27:12] want to talk briefly about the methodology use this time to conduct the crash analysis. A few things to point out is that overall the methodology is consistent with previous reports, however, there were a few changes we made this time around. One thing to note is that all crash summaries in the latest safe streets report will include only crashes that occur on public roadways crashes that occurred on private property or removed. And this is a change from prior reports as such, some total numbers and percentages that were reported in previous years may not quite match what's reported in this latest report update. However, we will have a separate section within the report to allow reviewers of the report to do an apples to apples comparison.
[28:08] And there are three main reasons for this change and the reporting of private property crashes, and those are to align with industry standards for Vision Zero reporting. That we don't have any jurisdiction to mitigate crashes on private property and that crashes on private property often lack full reporting by officers, sometimes we don't get all the details about what happened. Just to note private property crashes account for approximately 410 crashes per year and 1% of those crashes are generally severe crashes. Another thing to note is that 91% of private property crashes occur in parking lots, as everyone knows and as we're still experiencing in our lives. coven 19 had quite an impact on the crash numbers, so we wanted to do a few things to account for the reduction in crashes in terms of the change in travel as well.
[29:12] And we noted in 2020 that both vehicle miles traveled and bicycle volumes decreased, and so we have some comparisons in the report. That compare the decrease in crashes to the change in travel within the city. Another thing that we did this time around, was to separate the Vision Zero Action Plan update from the safe streets report update. And this was done to really allow us to take a proper amount of time and do another thorough analysis to help guide what actions, we can take based on the trends identified in this industry report update. So these next slides will talk about the key findings and trends from the analysis of the.
[30:00] crash data, and this is an infographic that I think does a nice job of summarizing really the highlights of the report and going from top to bottom, left to right, you can see that really total crashes per year have been trending down in the city since 2016. crashes peaked at about 26 total hundred crashes, excuse me 2600 cold crashes in 2016 then declined to approximately 2200 total crashes in 2019 and just to know, there are approximately 1200 total crashes in. Severe crashes have remained steady since 2016 ranging between 55 to 60 severe crashes per year, except for 2020 which was impacted by code. And had 38 severe crashes and just to note again that in 2020 there was a 44% reduction in the total number of crashes and a 31% reduction in severe crashes compared to the year.
[31:13] And we noted that the vehicle miles traveled during that time decreased by 29% so this would seem to indicate to some extent that both total and severe crashes did decrease a bit more than the reduction in travel that occurred as a result of the pandemic. And there at the bottom, you can see, there are five main areas of concern crashes involving pedestrians bicyclists left turns speeding and motorists aged 65 and over. These are crashes that have a much higher percentage of severe crashes compared to the percentage of total crashes, and you can see there at the bottom that most of our severe crashes really nearly two thirds of them.
[32:03] Between 2018 and 2020 occurred on our principal arterial and minor arterial roadways and just noting again that arterial roadways make up about 16% of our centerline miles. One other thing to note that's not on this slide is speaking about the crash types that occur in the city and we see that rear end and right angle. Also, known as T bone or broadside crashes account for approximately half of all crashes within the city, but only 17% of severe crashes. In terms of severe crashes, we find that crashes involving pedestrians bicycles and people making life turns account for approximately two thirds of severe crashes within the city, and that is why they're highlighted as areas of concern.
[33:03] So these next slides will walk through those five areas of concern in more detail and provide some additional insights into them. And really what we see is that most crashes involving pedestrians result in some level of injury. And that's despite pedestrian crashes representing only 2% of all crashes, they account for 18% of our total severe crashes, however, we have seen a slight decrease in pedestrian crashes since 2016 the total number has gone down from about 64 in 2016 to 50 total in 2019. And the severe crashes involving pedestrians have remained fairly steady at about 10 crashes per year. What we do find is that most of the crashes involving pedestrian occur within an intersection, however, that crashes that occur within a traveling are more likely to be severe.
[34:13] And when we talk about traveling we talked about. an instance where the pedestrian was crossing in an area that's not a marked or unmarked pedestrian facility. And this slide highlights the four most common pedestrian crash types that we see within the city, and this was the result of our pedestrian and bicycle crash analysis tool that we run. Specifically, focusing on pedestrian and bicycle crashes, to give us more detail into where and why they occur. And what we can see on this slide is that these four crash types represent half of all pedestrian crashes, but 75% of all severe pedestrian crashes.
[35:02] And i'll draw your attention to the two at the bottom, the pedestrian dash and dart out account for about a third of severe pedestrian crashes. And just so everyone knows the dash occurs when the vestry and steps out unexpectedly from the curb at an intersection or other designated crossing. And the dart out occurs when a pedestrian steps out unexpectedly from the curb at a location not typically designed as a crossing location, such as between parked cars. And these crashes are ones that cannot necessarily be addressed by engineering alone and will likely require education campaigns and encouraging a sense of shared responsibility and courtesy on the roads. Just a note that we have spoken to another city within the metro area of the city of lakewood. Regarding ways they are trying to educate pedestrians about the shared responsibility they have when crossing the street.
[36:03] And like what has installed signs at a few of their mark crosswalks that remind pedestrians, that it is unlawful to cross the street into the immediate path of a vehicle. boulder has similar language in its code, and this may be one strategy for a desk addressing pedestrian dash type crashes. And I just wanted to speak briefly to some of the pedestrian improvements that have been completed or are planned within the city, I think most of the members of tab are familiar with these we completed the rfp at 23rd and Canyon and there were a number of other. pedestrian improvements included within the Vision Zero innovation program back. Within the last few months in terms of planned improvements, you can see those on the right side of this slide there are a number of exciting improvements planned for this coming year.
[37:06] The baseline road and Canyon creek road just as a refresher that that refers to changing the crossing type on baseline road at Canyon creek from an rfp to a full traffic signal. want to talk next about the severity of bicycle crashes, and again, you can see that bicycle crashes, although they represent 6% of total crashes account for 36% of our total severe crashes. Similar to pedestrian crashes, we have seen a downward trend in the total number of bicycle crashes since 2016 we've seen a nearly a 30% decrease in the total number of bicycle crashes, there were 136 total in 2016. Excuse me 194 total in 2016 and that number of decreased to 136 total in.
[38:06] However, again, similar to the Austrian crashes. The the severe crashes per year has remained fairly constant at about 20 severe crashes per year. Excuse me 18 severe crashes per year for the period 2018 through 2020 we had 20 severe crashes per year for the period 2015 through 2017 so we've seen. A slight decrease in the number of severe crashes per year involving bicyclists and again similar to pedestrians, we find that most bicycle crashes occur within an intersection as well as severe by crashes often occur within an intersection. And again, similar to the pedestrians, we have here the four most common bicycle crash types and these four crash types account for nearly half 46%.
[39:04] Of all bicycle crashes and 37% of severe bicycle crashes these crash types generally follow trends from the prior reports there weren't necessarily surprises here. Just a note. about the diagram showing right turn on read at a civilized intersection. That diagrams a little misleading it's more so when the cyclist is writing perpendicular to the vehicle waiting when right turn on red crashes occur. But That being said, the visions were action plan will give us a chance to examine these crashes in more detail and look for common causal factors or site conditions that lead to them and then and lend themselves to the implementation of crash countermeasures. and want to speak briefly about the bicycle improvements that have been installed within the city, since the last safe streets report.
[40:04] slide i'm sure does not cover them all, but there are a few that we wanted to highlight here the buffer bike lanes on pine street some other improvements made along table Mesa drive. Really, the three highway safety improvement program projects that include Colorado and region broadway railey and baseline and 29th. As well as a number of green conflict markings installed on 13th street to name one example, and then we have a few that are planned next later this year, the folsom street vertically separated bike lanes, as well as the high street buffered bike lanes next year. walking through the severity of left turn crashes, we find again that, although they account for 16% of all crashes they count for three 4% of our total severe crashes. And we've done quite a quite a bit of work here in analyzing you know left turn changes of turn phasing changes, but one.
[41:08] trend that didn't emerge from the most recent crash data is that we're now seeing more crashes occur at uncivilized intersections so we saw an increase in left turn crashes at uncivilized intersections and five fewer at civilized intersections compared to the prior period. So we're seeing some gains in terms of our left turn signal phasing adjustments, but we're seeing an emerging trend at uncivilized intersections. In terms of work we've done to evaluate some of our left turn facing changes we had data at. 15 intersections or approaches, where we we had enough data at least two years of data to evaluate the effectiveness of left turn phasing changes that were made.
[42:05] And we found that those left turn facing changes resulted in an average of an 87% reduction in total crashes per year and the crash reduction at each intersection range between 35% and 100%. And that works not going to stop we've been very fortunate that we were awarded over $3 million in grant funds to allow us to continue to make upgrades to our signal system. One of the largest will be working on next year is the doctor colleague regional transportation operations and technology grant. And that grant will allow us to upgrade 67 signals along six core doors and it's mainly our major chord doors that are on the doctor called high injury network, including foothills 28th arapahoe broadway baseline and Taylor Mesa.
[43:01] We also have the highway safety improvement program money to reconstruct signals at three intersections that'll be full some pine broadway and baseline baseline and mohawk and I really the fourth one that I mentioned earlier, is the signal we adding at baseline and Canyon creek. And we, we got another grant undersea for signals that will allow us to rebuild 15 approaches at 10 intersections. and allow us to implement flashing yellow arrow and protected left term phasing by time of day, in accordance with our signal timing practices, so all of these projects will be well underway next year and we're excited to see the changes that those will bring. want to talk briefly about speeding crashes as well, we saw. quite an uptick in speeding related crashes within the city and again, you can see that they represent about a third of our total severe crashes.
[44:08] So this is a bit concerning to see that, now that really one out of every three severe crashes involves speeding. And there's a pretty specific demographic when you break down the data of who was involved in these crashes and it's you know 80% of the time when it's a severe crash involves a male driver and often that driver is between the ages of 25 and 34 years old. So it's a pretty targeted demographic there in terms of education or outreach that can be targeted to try to change behaviors. In terms of speeding litigations we wanted to continue to emphasize that this is a point of emphasis within our our division in our department. And we were able to leverage, a lot of the findings from the prior say street report.
[45:04] To justify us getting a Community mobility planning and implementation grant that will allow us next year to take a more comprehensive look at how we set speed limits and how he signed speed limits within the city. We were worried about 100,000 for that study and we'll be starting that middle of next year, when the funding becomes available. And just wanted to touch again on the neighborhood speed management program and the great work that that's been doing in our Community. You know today we've installed 52 speed humps on 22 streets we've installed one pair of radar speed displays and we've installed one interim sugar cane, and we have yet in progress this year 19 speed humps on eight streets and 11 speed cushions six on 26th street and five on 55th street. So there continues to be great work done through the SMP to try to mitigate speeds on our local and collector streets, and then we did a similar thing with the Vision Zero innovation program this year, where we were able to more quickly implement traffic calming along corridors.
[46:19] Rather than having wait them wait, they could get projects this year. In terms of the older drivers, this was another trend that we've seen a pretty dramatic increase in the number of crashes and walling are older drivers drivers that are 65 years old and older. And we've seen that again, these represent a pretty large portion of our severe crashes as well. it's pretty startling to think that since 2010 crashes and welding and older adults have increased by 89% while the older adult population has increased by 35%.
[47:02] So, in terms of next steps will be bringing a similar presentation to the one tonight to city council on December 14 to make them aware of the work we've done to date. And then we'll have the draft report available for review During January and we plan to come back to tab in January for questions and discussion about the report itself. And then we'll go to counsel with that report for questions and discussion in February with a plan to finalize the report by the end of the month, in February 2022. And from there, we plan to jump right into the action plan, update and really use the rest of to complete that update to the Vision Zero Action Plan. So with that That concludes the presentation and we have these two questions for cab just to guide our discussion, but.
[48:03] Certainly doesn't have to be limited to these questions, so thank you very much. Thank you Devon. appreciate it and trying to pull up the questions, maybe already pulling them up there, but i'm. Happy I my initial question and it but i'd like to do is have tab go through, and ask questions first, before giving some commentary so we'll have two rounds if people want to weigh in twice, but one question I have just right off the top. is, how will the draft report it's going to be prepared and available in January differ from what we're looking at tonight, this is just the analysis portion is the data, but what will be different or added later on. Go ahead and answer that question now. yeah please. Okay, certainly um, so I think you know, this is a lot of the hard data and numbers around the trends that we've seen. But the report will also touch a little bit more in terms of the education and enforcement components which weren't necessarily mentioned in this presentation, or the memo.
[49:10] And will also highlight a little bit more about things that have been done within the prior period as a means of trying to mitigate the crash trends that we saw within the city. Okay, so will you be also including some analysis of the effectiveness of those measures that's maybe not in here right now. To to a certain extent, I do think largely what we've been able to evaluate with with hard data is the Left turn signal facing changes and that that was presented here tonight. Okay. it's a little bit hard to gauge. On the system level the impacts of things like green conflict markings or other measures like that. yeah. tab any other questions of Devon anything you needed to know or ask mark go ahead.
[50:06] Thanks Devon. 3 million for left hand turn phasing improvements sounds like a bunch of money until you start. You know, measuring hardware and G if you need new master arms and stuff so is the focus of the left the quote improvements and left turn facing about replacing. permissive green balls with permissive flashing yellow arrows or is it about moving to protected left turns. Some combination and, if so, what, how do we decide where to do a protected left and and make that improvement versus the smaller improvement of a flashing yellow versus a.
[51:10] I I didn't quite properly state that Dr Khan project, I would say it there's quite a bit more involved than just left turn signal phase and changes within that project. project is also allowing us to really do a full upgrade of our signal system on those core doors will be taking out the radio communication that we've been using. For queen intersections and putting the intersections on our fiber optic network, for you know more reliable faster communication between the intersections and then we'll also be. installing some additional detection at the intersections on the main streets will be installing advanced detection that will allow us to more efficiently. You know time the signals and have them adjust as as cars approach the intersection and that's called automated traffic signal performance measures and will be able to get a lot more data out of our signal system.
[52:12] By having those measures in place so that that project is a little more than just phasing. But in terms of your question about left turn phasing. Yes, it is a combination of changing green balls to flashing yellow arrows and then the phasing determination is ultimately. decided, in accordance with our traffic signal timing practices manual and that looks at things like the number of lanes, you have to cross the speed limit. The opposing traffic volume, the number of pedestrians and bicyclists that are in conflict with that movement all those factors come into play when we make a determination of left turn facing. So you're, the last thing you said there the about pedestrian presence bike presence.
[53:06] Do any of these improvements allow for. A restricted or protected left and i'm thinking now of pedestrian I want the protection that if I hit the back button and I want to cross that it would activate a fully protected it would protect me crossing rather than me having to wonder about someone. If I if I hit the back button and i'm now told i've got a white man walking there that I can be confident that I have a that the phasing is protecting me from the Left turn movement of the automobile. That is something we are looking at more closely and we haven't implemented at 30th and all that it's called pedestrian protect phasing and it's just that, if if you push the button to cross it will serve a protected left turn phase, during the conflicting pedestrian clearance time.
[54:19] So that is an option that we have available to us in our toolbox that we can explore more widespread throughout the city. Well, go experience that particular one because I certainly experienced many that I wish that was the. case and I think there are other things you can do with the flashing yellow arrow. That certainly make it better than the green ball, but one one of those things is to delay the onset of the flashing yellow arrow. Basically, you just red arrow during the walk indication and then turn it on during the pedestrian don't walk the flashing pedestrian don't walk indication so it's kind of like an API for left turns okay.
[55:03] Thank you. it's kind of more like a lagging left turn. Right right now Alex you unmuted some questions. sorry if I missed this level there'd be a technical appendix that highlights some of the potential treatments at our highest crashed intersections like we've had in the past two years. I think we're incorporating that into the Vision Zero Action Plan, this year, the high crash locations are just identified. Just as that just by their numbers and we didn't really get a chance to with this analysis dive more deeply into the specific, you know how the numbers stack up in terms of crush types were trends at the intersection level. what's the timeline for that effort. The action plan will be completed throughout next year.
[56:02] Okay. But we do do intend to be very specific with that action plan and identify, you know very specific countermeasures, we can apply at our intersections. Okay, thanks hatcher Ryan, you have any questions at this point. Ryan go ahead. And then thanks i'm thinking big picture you presented the four e's engineering education enforcement and emergency medical services if I got that right um i'm just thinking. So. If you if you think about other cities or places that are best in class in any of these categories that are that will be periods of ours. Is that something that you use think about like you can identify other places, and this is they're really doing this right we'd like to do that or is, that is, it is this not is that not something that you can we can and should use.
[57:10] Oh, I would say absolutely we we are always trying to learn from our pure cities and other cities within the metro area. are quite a few coordinating Vision Zero type meetings that staff attends in order to learn from others and find innovative best practices that we can take back and try here that others may have already tried out elsewhere. Okay, so focused on the pretty focused on the the Denver metro area, it was when you think of pure cities you're not thinking like east coast West Coast Europe. Well, I. So, yes and no I mean, I think, for the speed limit setting grant that we have we do intend to look nationally, and I think we have also found.
[58:01] You know, you can always learn from others nationally as well, so it's not just limited to the metro area, but I would say, those are who we have the best relationships with and can really you know shift and explore ways to improve things. Okay, thanks for that and then one just one follow up on this might be a little bit abstract, but if you think about those four e's so i'll. seems fine to me that those are those are the right ones are there. Are any of those more important than others, if you are, if you said Look, we want to really we want to really reduce to zero and we've got the money and the time or whatever, I mean is. Are all four of those have equal weight and importance or is one of those where we would likely, if we really try and get get the most impact from. That that's a bit hard to say I mean I, as I said in the presentation, I really do feel it takes all of them to help you achieve your ultimate goal.
[59:02] You know argue that engineering may have the most impact, but I think what we find sometimes is is, it is hard to. Implement education campaigns that you feel make an impact on people and there are certain crashes that really lend themselves to education over engineering. Because it's it's just a certain behavior you know, like you, shouldn't look down at your phone while you're driving right you shouldn't be. are sending a text message, but it's like people do it all the time So how do you get inside their head and educate them that that is not an acceptable behavior when they're behind the wheel, so I think that is certainly a component as well. And I you know we can talk about enforcement as well, and how that gets implemented, and I think what this report does is it can lend itself to informing.
[60:00] Where enforcement should be targeted and the road have the most issue in terms of speeding, that we can explore later, and you know, take a closer look at them to maybe make adjustments. Okay, thanks. Okay touched everything questions. yeah I just had a had a simple one devin. And I, I believe, like I think everybody does on this call that the arterial walls and these major streets are at the core of. Where we need to do things that are preventative but but I struggle with the way we're running the numbers and I just wanted to double check. Saying that per mile they're the worst. I get why we're doing that because that's our easy measurement but i'm presuming, we are also confident that per car they're the worst because that's what I care about you know, a mile a residential street where hardly everybody anybody hardly ever goes up and down it.
[61:08] To me isn't you know so yeah I probably don't have as high probability accidents i'm wondering if we have any inside tend to the accident rates are accident probabilities are so verities you know per car going through. The street type I know you haven't had time to do the the intersection level look at this yet. Well, you bring up a bit of a sticky situation in the industry because crash rates are a bit of an interesting animal when you get into them because you can imagine that an intersection like foothills in arapahoe that has many, many cars going through it every day. You know you're you're dividing by that larger number of cars, so it takes many more crashes. In a rate that would be equal to on a local street if there's one or two crashes, and only a few hundred cars per day, your rate will maybe be higher on the local street as or to the major arterial intersection, so there is.
[62:15] A way around that in the industry that I think will look into what the action plan, and those are called safety performance functions and they really compare the characteristics of an intersection. to other inner. Have a similar type so for foothills coho you might look at like a four lane or six lane major arterial intersection that has a median dividing it. And you will find how that intersection compares to other specific intersections of a similar type. And that will inform whether or not you have a higher than expected frequency or a higher than expected severity of crashes at an intersection like that. And that's referred to in the highway safety manual as the level of service of safety and it's on a scale from one to four.
[63:05] With one being your lowest potential to really implement crash countermeasures that would make a difference and for being you have a high potential to bring crashes down by by making changes at the intersection. got it Thank you. Well, said Devon, thank you, I have a couple of questions. One of them being I noticed when we went through the report and the word driver wasn't used a whole lot instead it was very neutral language about people and people involved in crashes, you know as students, but. There were a couple of times in in the draft and then also in your presentation tonight, where you called out senior drivers. And I wondered if there was something different going on with the senior data, so I mean just, for instance, taking this this year so far we've had at least three seniors kill on our roadways. And one of them was a pedestrian and one of them was a driver and one of them was a passenger in that car i'm calling correctly, are we, including all three of those seniors as part of the charts or are we pulling out seeing the drivers.
[64:12] I think our data that we've presented in the presentation and the packet looks at an instance where the driver is age 65 or older and is that is found to be at fault in the crash okay. So they're not they're not just senior involved. Cooper fitz is senior, that is, the driver. Okay. interesting and it wasn't clear, by the way, from the from the draft so just bear that in mind some of these and I plan on on the side to send you a more blow by blow. Thank you. yeah cuz I love this stuff and love diving into it, but we don't have to do that at this whole meeting. But another question that I had, and I have all of the old.
[65:03] Reports and. In the first two, there were different things that we looked at that are no longer include i'm curious why. And then, of course, in the first two, they also didn't ever look at speed and i'm hoping, in large part because of tabs feedback on the speed. That is now sort of a regular part of the analysis, what i'm thinking of it isn't here is things like time of day and time of year of crashes, is there a reason that that got left out or was considered not as important. How did you decide sort of what to what to put in and what to leave out and because he's a former reports vary from 53 pages long to 15 pages long, so I appreciate we're still playing with the format, but what What was your thinking and including what you did. For, so I think we see this, the overall safe streets report as the very high level overview and summary of the crash data for that three year period.
[66:03] And that allows us to then take a deeper dive through the action plan and get into more of those things that you mentioned, like time of day. You know day of the week month lighting conditions, all of those things really should be reviewed when you're talking about what improvements could potentially be made at an intersection or or other location. Okay. um I think my last question is a map kind of related to one of the changes that you made, and it made a lot of sense to only look at crashes on public streets, because you don't have jurisdiction in the parking lots. And and they're generally not injury crashes that are happening in those parking lots which made a lot of sense of course places that we are seeing high numbers of car crashes and injuries. are major roadways are carols and and the big collectors desert, of course, places where the city of boulder doesn't isn't the only.
[67:07] entity that has jurisdiction and so i'm curious are the is the attention to those are cereals it's it was a little upsetting to see it. At page 41 out of 43 or whatever it was but next to last to say Oh, by the way, 65% of our crashes are happening on these roads, and they have no further real deep dive on them when earlier we've. You know we've got four pictures about what looks like maybe two or three crashes on some other crash types, is there a reason that we're not. dealing specifically with the. The size of the roadway is that because see that has to be involved are we focusing only on city boulder streets where we were the only game in town. I wouldn't say that's the case no I do think we find that are the quarter wars, where we have the most crashes are higher speed higher volume quarters that we're kind of the ones mentioned.
[68:09] And in fact we're we're working very closely with Seattle region for their they're in the process of conducting a region for pedestrian bicycle safety study. And we said that's great see that, but we, we would much appreciate the opportunity if we could be the ones that would take that deeper dive into the crash data along the state highways and and more so informed seat. Of what we're finding in terms of those crashes along you know broadway Canyon arapaho baseline. I don't think it was intentional that we didn't take a deeper dive and I think that's certainly feedback we can take moving forward to do that. And I think there is certainly opportunity when you talk regional partnerships, either through Dr club or c.to kind of come to consensus and and find ways to make improvements to those roadways.
[69:08] Okay, thank you now i'm going to cycle back through and see if 10 members have a specific feedback for Devon. or other staff on the call here about this draft, bearing in mind we're going to get a more complete sort of. Take on on these things as the as the work continues and we'll have another talk about this in January I think it's what was on the schedule so much you're unmuted if you want to go first you I know you're gonna leave early so. Let me know, thank you, I appreciate that. um I don't know if this is a question question or comment but. i'm very interested in in the linkages between three things. One is severe accidents clearly that's our main subject the The second is bad driving behavior.
[70:03] And the third is. think things that we can do to deter bad driving behavior and i'm. I don't even know very closely what those might be. Whether they're speed cameras whether they're. You know, things that we're doing in roadway design and on on not only these car. doors, but many other places. To me it's the combination that really might help us over the hump and i'm wondering in the report ties. That comes out of whether there's a way to make any of those linkages whether we have some places in the city. Where we think that the roadway is helping us versus hurting us. As we come up to intersections are some of these you know high higher risk patients.
[71:04] I would say that that's those are good things to be mindful of, and I think there are some opportunities we plan to look at that in more detail, we we are kicking off the. Analysis of 20 is plenty and one large component of that evaluation will be to understand, to the extent that the. speed limit sign influences driver behavior versus kind of the environmental conditions and roadway design influences driver behavior. And their tendency to drive or not drive at the 20 mile an hour posted speed and I think another thing we've seen that will explore in more detail with the speed limit setting grant is. How the roadway context comes into play when you're talking about setting speed limits, I think there is a lot in the way of technology that can be leveraged I mean there's certainly a number of Apps you know you can set your phone to do not disturb you can have these.
[72:05] Basically ignition interlocks that you, you know you have to blow into and crew you're not drunk before the carbon. So there are things like that that could be leveraged as well to kind of reduce impairment and distraction, but those are you know I don't know kind of where those stand in the industry, or what the future trends are related to those and I think we've seen in addition that. There is this appetite in the United States we're just bigger faster, more powerful vehicles and the just the sheer size of like a F 150 truck compared to. A child is pretty staggering and there continues to be this manufacturing of you know, safety features within the vehicle to protect the occupants which is great.
[73:00] But the vehicles themselves are getting heavier and more powerful and larger so it's kind of this interesting dynamic of their sort of playing against each other, where. Defense inside are probably more protected with more advanced features, but the the vulnerable road users are perhaps left in a more desperate situation because of those changes. But I think the three things I mentioned, we can definitely take into mind as we you know look to. look into the data more and get into the causal factors. Okay, thanks. Who wants to go next. Alex i'm muted. I guess, this is a question, but I don't necessarily need an answer tonight when we look at our tip are there, areas where we're spending too much money relative to where we could do more, get elsewhere.
[74:05] This as the we have. A tip we project those long ways out, but we have this pressure data and i'm curious if there are. Any indications that we should be spending our money in different ways, based on this data. So gnarly a question. yeah I was gonna say I may need to. pause on that question for a minute, but. I do think we, you know, I hope that you saw there was some alignment that. Actually, where we are seeing some crash trends we either do have projects completed or projects in the works, so we do try to use this work, to the extent we can to really tell us where we should be making those investments. Thanks Ryan go ahead. No thanks I can't remember these questions you had for us where, but I think there's muscle and input so i'll just offer to two thoughts, one I, I understand that you know we're bound we're we're constrained by by funding budgets available to do the work.
[75:19] I also think, though, that it would be especially with the new City Council coming on that this would be a really great opportunity to say. If we had more money resource whatever, this is what that this is what a step change could look like and. I I didn't hurt you quite say the engineering was the top speed of my understanding is probably as the toffee, I think, maybe you were kind of saying, but I think we've seen that around the world, at least, that if you, you can engineer. At least the cars away from the vulnerable users to a very large extent um, so I think we have a big opportunity to just tell that story here to say look like you know if we had.
[76:06] This is this what we'd love to do if we had the money for it and put that on Council to talk to you know give direction, and you know we have legislative office in the city, to some extent that can work on that, but um. I think we owe it to ourselves to say, even if we don't have the money, this is what we do if we did. And then the second thing is my I was asking about pure cities and I, you know I would prefer it to. Be more of a global assessment, I mean global with a lowercase G, perhaps we just you know I know that that takes resources to so perhaps that's part of the story of we have more money we do this type of an assessment, but the search that we we know. You know all the all the best practices state of the art to borrow from including from you know cities beyond the Rockies area so than that that's all I have thanks. OK thanks.
[77:02] Mark I saw your email, so I know you have comments. yeah thank. You so i'll start, since you mentioned the email i'll start there and I want to kind of concur with. Ryan and Alex about this tip and how we're spending money and that the for engineering can be a. Big mitigation for lack of mitigate the need for enforcement mitigate some of the need for education and. So when I when I look at the four intersections that were in the memo and that I sent the pictures of Google maps i'm continuing to look at Colorado and 28 street and you look at that, from the air. that's an engineering marble what we have done there to move a lot of traffic.
[78:02] Through that intersection and I drive up there all the time, and I know it's it's it's busy, and we can't go back in the past and eliminate that ridiculous frontage road and all sorts of stuff, but when you look at it anyway i'm making a case that. We have we are we're really good at engineering. But I think that we need to be really. Good at engineering now for what we're trying to achieve in the future, and that is reduction and bmt increase in mode shift and. greater safety for. vulnerable users and and and those particular intersections but especially foothills and arapahoe Colorado and 28 are. really difficult for pedestrians and cyclists to navigate and I know there are underpasses nearby in some instances, but there are a lot of times you just have to you have to.
[79:11] get somewhere, and you have to go through those intersections and they're intimidating they're dangerous, and I think our data shows that, so I would encourage the department to use these exceptional engineering skills that produce these high throughput intersections. But going forward to change that to to achieve our climate goals our safety goals, so that that's my comment on those and it really is stunning, to look at the amount of engineering that goes into those into those intersections. um. And I want you, if you have any comment you're welcome to reply, but that was just my little. speech on that the only other thing and it's much more fun day is in the presentation on.
[80:09] On slide 11. This is the first of many, this is a snapshot I find the one I really appreciate seeing real trend grass versus just, for instance, it says. Has a has a dark Gray down arrow 44% okay so. was down 44% over. or. You know. there's a there's missing it dumb in the effort to try to make it snappy and pretty we've really lost some of the meaning there so.
[81:01] The other thing is, if you take that slide and then you also look in the memo at just page 2223 etc, the colors of the numbers are confusing they're they're red they're Gray, we have you know. dark arrows going down anyway, I really struggle, I was really struggling with trying to. understand what some of this was telling me, partly because of the use of color in some of the some of the graphs and trends was inconsistent, or you know, in all the columns it's red and some of the columns it's all Gray, without even though some things were good something bad. Can you right now, no that's that's good feedback yeah. For sure I think we can take a look at. cleaning up and making it very clear and consistent throughout when we express you know trends or numbers.
[82:07] To try to make it as clear to the reader as possible yeah. Okay, that that's my only two comments, thank you. yeah thanks for. Thanks mark. Okay, I have a few comments as well, one of them I kind of already alluded to, and it's that. I feel there's a lot of attention here and effort and big pictures on. Some some crash types that are, I think, simply not worthy of the those space. In that's that's devoted to it in this draft, particularly if we're and it was page 41 out of 42 if we're only going to point out that. 65% of our crashes occur on principle and minor arterial roadways you know, at the very end of the report that's a that's a huge data point if it's 65%.
[83:05] of our severe crashes are happening on this kind of roadway We really need to pay more attention to that, then, to the two or three if I reverse engineer, the numbers right of the dash out dart out pedestrian motor vehicle crashes that you know get their own infographic. I found I found that the. These graphics were really good really easy to understand in general. I did have trouble sometimes when there was no no read i'm like well what what happened, did we did change colors was just there wasn't enough data. On some and so, for instance, on page. 10 of the draft. The severity of private property crashes. And we're not really with you very already said we're not going to talk about him, I would just ditch that whole slide I got no value out of that.
[84:06] Especially because there were you know to fatales one in 2011 one and 2019 they're just felt like in places, and we were just kind of filling space, and I think that sort of shorter and punchier and more. More important data should remain in but the stuff that's not recognizing you probably put a lot of work into making this like it's simply not a critical part of the story, or about how we're moving forward. As I understand it, so I would I would kind of get a more critical API to whether we need all of the infographics here, but in general, I thought that the. graphs were and because of the size like Nice and easy to see what was going on and so generally I think pretty well done as as compared to the previous drafts. And I think i'm going to speak a little bit out of both sides of my mouth and one of them one side is going to say I would be very skeptical of some of this data.
[85:08] And from drawing hard conclusions about some of it, in particular because of how we are 2020 was and so i'm looking for this slide but the one that's talking about age. Here we go page 38 of the draft report i'm saying there in the big red box at the top you've concluded, while crashes involving people aged 2228 29. In some years accounted for 48% of total crashes they're no longer over represented in severe crashes, and this they're no longer a problem seems based entirely on 2020 data. Were total crashes were nearly have and be involved the severity dropped by a third, and given that. Most of those age 20 to 29 people are students at university and that they were not in class Those are some of them were not even in the sea.
[86:05] I really wouldn't conclude it's no longer a problem because it has been a pressing problem noted and all of the previous reports and you're you have data, going back to 2009 I think we had the first date in 2008 as well. We know it's an issue and it's you know it's revived again this year, I think. In the seven severe crashes we've talked about, I believe, five of them involved drivers 25 and younger so. Be careful with concluding a whole lot. about that, when we're relying on data, and I think you've done a good job and. not relying on that by the slide talking about speeding crashes, which also showed a drop and severity. But you rightly say, between 2018 to 2021 out of every three severe crashes involved speeding and didn't conclude oh it's getting better or this trend is downward because it's just it's a messy year this data is in general is kind of messy.
[87:02] And so I think you've done a good job at not like over interpreting or over relying on some weird data now where i'm going to speak out of the other side of my mouth is. I would say as an advocate, and I know you're not an advocate, you have to josh. But as an advocate some of these some of this data was very exciting, I think, because of how it tells a story, and that we ought to be using it to enhance our messaging in places. When we conclude that education is a valid approach for expert type of crash, and I think the biggest place that it tells the story is in showing how. Severe crashes and overall crashes dropped in 2020 yes by much larger margins than the vehicle miles driven dropped and so that tells me that if we can really get people to.
[88:03] brace our goals for your vehicle miles traveled to really stop as much sob us as we know, claim for a lot of reasons that we want to pursue that we have. reason to believe we will gain outsized safety benefits from that kind of movement and it should help us make the story that we need more money that we need. Better leadership from si.on these high injury network locations and to not just treat this as an engineering and a safety problem, but to treat the safety gains from our larger goals of improving the way that people travel. This data should help help us craft that story, and I think gain a lot for our Community if we let it so in the final draft I would love to see some really big picture, discussion of those kinds of trends places where we seen stuck.
[89:10] Like you know, even though overall crashes drops there's still about 18 or 20 cyclists getting very, very seriously injured every year. And being honest about you know places where we need more of a regional push or to try to do something different, because despite a number of. Improvements we've attempted, we are seeing a flat line, so it should help us sound the alarm for really trying to do something bolder. And, as I forget but notice earlier but notice, we have a new Council. it's a good time to try to catch their ears, this is maybe more on me and people like tab as individuals and as as advocates to to reach out to them and try to try to sell some of this data as part of a story about why City Council needs to be more supportive of and.
[90:01] More skeptical of objections to making bigger changes, because we can tinker with the mass arms of a light well you know as long as we want to, but. They are going to be certain crash types that are not. amenable to changes like that and doing bigger bolder things like teaming are arterial it's going to take more political will and more political effort, I think that. To the extent that this data and this report can help tell that story and help paint the urgency of the problem, the better. feedback. yeah. And, as I said, i'll reach out to you separately with you know oh there's a typo on this or I don't think that that's quite right, and you know. it's not clear what the label means on this so. i'll get around to that. that'd be great. yeah really, really appreciate it, this is looking really.
[91:01] really good and impressive I don't want us to be adding too much information so that it becomes too dense I noted the page counts of some of our earlier. attempt attempts and the biggest one. i'm forgetting, but some of them are really to be against text and you're avoiding doing that. So far, which makes it just sort of more accessible, easy to kind of flip through, but we still don't want to have 60 pages of punchy stuff if we can get it down to you know 30 pages of punchy stuff with a big fat appendix, so that people can see how the sausage was made. You know, for those who really want to dive into the data better that that has been a pretty good approach in the past. Okay yeah I think our intent is largely to follow the template of the prior report and fill that in with with the new data that we found. Okay. All right, well, we look forward to seeing how this develops any further feedback tab.
[92:03] Excellent alright. Thanks Ben thanks guys. Now let's move now to the staff briefing and transit service and regional update sorry Devon, did you want to anything else from us is there anything. I don't think so, too, just to clarify again, this was a little bit. Separate effort than the report itself, so I think you'll find the report when we presented to you, it will look a little bit different than what was presented to you tonight, although the content will generally be the same, it may be presented slightly differently. Okay, great Thank you yeah. you're all. Right sorry that was a quick reverse about that. looks like we have James Hansen, a Daniel Connor here for the transit service. Regional update. Good evening i'm Danny o'connor here principal transportation planner transit program manager pleasure to be with you.
[93:04] All tonight, so, as mentioned Jean sansone. principal transportation planner is joining me as we're going to co present this presentation on transit and regional project update. Let me go. ahead to the next slide here, please so. Specific to just kind of the order of how what brief tonight, this is similar to how was outlined in the memo we have five topics and in specifically to discuss versus the rtb coven 19 service plan. To is an update on hop three is the diagonal Colorado state highway 119 court or four is arapahoe Ave Colorado seven corridor and five is Northwest rail in front range passenger rail update.
[94:04] Next slide please so. So, with the transit update. If you can go next slide please so. As we have shared with you, before our TD continues to operate it system of regional bus and rail services under its Cobra 19 service plan, which has been an effect since April of 2020. The rtb coven 19 service plan initially represented about 60% of pre covert service levels and generally involves providing service levels and schedules typical of Saturday on weekdays Consequently, this is the resulted in reduced frequencies and shorter service hours for services. And, in some cases, their service suspensions for routes that did not have previously a Saturday schedule. Our TV system ridership has been significantly impacted by covered conditions and currently is trending between 40 to 50% of pre coven.
[95:06] Levels Just to give you kind of a perspective of what that looks like in 2019 you know basically our TV was caring about 290 300,000 writers per day right now they're trending at about 120 5000 per day system wide. Next slide please so. Since April of 2020 rtb has been gradually restoring services as conditions allow with consideration factors for restoration, including. ridership demand return to work return to school Title six and equity analysis public in public and customer comments and balancing it's limited operator availability. As of September of 2021 our TV is now operating about 70% of its pre coven. 2019 service levels as they were able to add in some services really in conjunction with the return to school push that we saw with this fall semester.
[96:09] are currently our TVs financial projections are indicating that they expected a restore about 85% of its 2019 service level so really the baseline service levels by 2025 2026 next slide please. So, as you can imagine city staff has been really monitoring service changes service levels customer comments Community impacts, since this service plan was initially implemented in April 2020. And we remain in continuous dialogue with our TV and presenting these matters and formally submitting requests for critical service restorations during their public input periods for plan service changes. Echoing many of the public comments provided to our TV during its latest round of public input, our primary primary asked of our TV have included.
[97:08] Continuous and an updated customer messaging around the status of suspended services currently there's seven routes. That have been suspended in boulder since April of 2020 their stops remain in the ground and just it's just so important, just to keep customers surprised, as far as the status and alternative options for those routes. To you know we continue to you know hear comments and advocate for the restoration of flat our flyer two and a flat our life flyer for services three we're really looking for restoration of transit services that boulder junction. For return of the golden boulder route and five working with our TV and partners for providing a new on demand service for the gun barrel area is, this is an area that has recently lost route service.
[98:05] Next slide please. So really in discussions today with our TV part of our request for these restorations has focused on requesting federal transit relief funding that is. been designated for the boulder county small urbanized areas to be applied for such priority service restorations you may have seen the latest development which si dot our TV and boulder county have agreed. For see to transfer federal funding designated for boulder county smaller urbanized areas to boulder county instead of our TV. ads we are having ongoing discussions with boulder county staff on how this federal funding, maybe use going forward for service restorations and operational systems and bolder. And the meantime staff will continue to monitor service levels and customer concerns promote public input opportunities and advocate for critical service restorations with our partners that are.
[99:02] Next slide please. So switching gears Let me give a quick update on hop services and boulder. hop has also been operating with reduce frequencies since April of 2020 we continue to plan and really look at service levels and coordination with our funding partners of our TV and see you currently hop is operating. 75% of its pre coven 2019 service hours, the service plan really is coordinated with increasing frequencies and services when see us and session and scaling back when see you is out of class really to match the greatest ridership demand that we see. You know, we are seeing some encouraging movements with hop ridership October ridership averaged about 1200 per day, this is well, this is about 43% of what October of 2019 ridership was for hop it is more than double what we saw last October next slide please.
[100:06] Just for some more additional context on hop ridership trends during coven this graph depicts hop ridership from January 2019 to October of 2021. To the left, the green bar show 2019 hop ridership in that in a pre cove area you'll note that there's a typical seasonal curve and the data. With higher counts corresponding what's you has semesters are in classes are in and were there are many months in 2019 with ridership greater than 60,000. Blue bars, in the middle refer to 2020 and really dramatically show the immediate impact coven had on ridership starting with March and April figures. You know I think what's so interesting in this slide it in February of 20 2020 that was one of our highest ridership months we were at over 100,000 writers on hop and you know as soon as really coven took effect, we were down to less than 20,000 for half from April on.
[101:12] To the right in orange is 2020 trends and I think what's really encouraging or this last three months August September in October, those are the first. Three months that we have seen ridership over 20,000 on hop since March of 2020 a really good sign this this corresponds with see us return to campus this fall and you know, an encouraging trend for where hop ridership continues to gradually grow. If you go to the last slide please here. staff is also working to enhance the hop by pursuing you know part of our strategy to electrify the hop fleet by 2030. For the 2019 transportation masterplan goal, you may recall that we took delivery of three battery electric buses in April, and we are in the process of securing and finalizing various grants that will allow us to purchase an additional 60 buses with delivery expected and.
[102:19] Funding for this next event of ordering includes see that faster grants see settlement grants. And an expiring see that MMF grant that was initially secured for hop service expansion to occur in 2020 that we are pivoting to purchase. He buses in light of the unfair conditions for service expansion in the near term really the consequence of what this can do just with these grants is is having half of the hot fleet electric by 2023 which we're very excited by. With that, let me turn it over to Jeanne to discuss the regional transportation projects. Thanks Danny.
[103:01] So. i'm going to switch gears and building off of the transit update that Danny just provided and zoom out a little bit and speak about the status status of some of our regional transportation projects. So, as you all know, the boulder valley COMP plan and our transportation masterplan provide us the policy framework, by which we, a city staff and use boards and city council represented, it was work with. Our neighbors and our agency partners to plan and pursue funding and implement regional priority projects and our current policies from the tmp. support greater much choice for boulder residents students visitors and non resident employees and encourage high quality multimodal travel options. Through transit bicycling ride sharing and other modes of transportation and you'll see this reflected in the map in front of you. So this map illustrates and network of multimodal regional court or is identified in 2014 Northwest area mobility steady which we affectionately referred to as names.
[104:03] And this evening i'm going to highlight three of our priority names quarter, starting with our highest priority, which is. The diagonal or Colorado 119 and i'll also cover the status of Easter apo Colorado seven multimodal quarter improvements. As well as completion of the rts Northwest rail project and you'll notice that i'm no longer referring to these as state highway 118 or state highway seven because see that is officially transitioning to. Colorado and 19 and Colorado seven so i'm trying to get used to this, as I present this information. So turning our attention to Colorado and 19 and the multimodal planning and environmental linkage study that are TD sponsored and was completed in 2019 really established the multimodal vision for this quarter. And it also established a handful of goals so just to highlight a few improving safety enhancing travel time and pedestrian and bicycle connectivity.
[105:01] are all important goals that have guided the work in this quarter of the last several years and, as you see listed on the bottom of the slide We work closely with all of our quarter stakeholders and partners to develop funding and implementation strategies to advance these goals. And this map has a lot of information on it, but what is describing. is also detailed more in your memo is that we're actively coordinating among or quarter partners in major improvements will include things like. The beer T transit enhancements a commuter bike way and intersection optimization. And first and final mile connectivity and of course enhancements within the city of boulder and the city of long line as you're well aware, such as a 28 street improvement project to facilitate expected expedited transit travel time once brt is within our city centers. A major advancement in the product development process that I want to share with you tonight, has been seated US leadership in moving forward what they call the Colorado 119 safety and mobility project.
[106:05] And this project picked up where our TVs Pal are planning environmental linkage study left off, and the technical analysis of the highway design and when i'm talking about the highway design i'm really referring to the trunk so that section of Colorado 119 between boulder in longmont. Over the past year, the study looked at seven alternatives for 2045 conditions, ranging from what would happen if we do nothing, the no bill alternative to adding additional general purpose lanes. To adding Q jump lanes at congested intersections to adding full told express lanes to the trunk line, much like what you see on 36 today. results of the study we're finalizing last month and they indicated that intersection improvements. paired with the queue jump lanes option is the preferred alternative, given that it's the lower cost as compared with alternatives such as fully managed lanes. and provides the ability to provide access exceptional beer to travel time savings and triple liability.
[107:05] An illustration of the preferred design concept at the intercept the intersection of 118 and 52 is shown here, so you see the commuter bike way. In the middle of the highway and those blue lines represent the Q jumps and, in many cases they're they're quite long quarter mile to a half mile long depending. So what next given this recommendation see that's going to be advancing design through this year next with final design expected in 2023 and plans to advertise for construction in the fall of 2023. And as you can imagine there's going to be a great deal of Community engagement throughout this process and we'll keep you updated more, as we know about what that engagement looks like I know that you've also. been actively involved in much of the commuter by equate design and, as we know more about how that design is progressing, we will keep you posted. So, moving on from 119 let's turn our attention to another priority nouns quarter Colorado seven or arapahoe within the city of boulder.
[108:07] Over the last several years many planning and feasibility studies, including our Easter EPA transportation plan have established again multimodal vision for travel in this case it's between Brighton and boulder in the vision for the 2029 mile quarter. Excuse me, includes an integrated plan for bus rapid transit improvements, supported by multimodal roadway bicycle and pedestrian infrastructure and transit supportive land development at plan station areas. And as you can see from the maps the quarter spans three counties and multiple local jurisdictions between boulder on the West and Brighton on the east. So to advance the implementation of this vision, the Colorado seven coalition. which includes the city of boulder in coordination with si dot and our TV successfully secured $10 million to advanced previous planning work into preliminary design.
[109:02] The Colorado seven quarter development plan, which was completed this year and approved by the Colorado seven coalition in February this year. programs these funds to advance preliminary engineering and environmental design projects throughout the quarter and what you're seeing in this map is an illustration of these design projects. As well as construction and operational improvement projects throughout the quarter, in addition to the preliminary engineering that's being conducted as part of that $10 million program of projects. So honing in on our end of the quarter approximately $1.4 million of these funds are allocated for preliminary design and environmental engineering at East arapahoe between 20 and 64. For us, this is a really important next step for advancing the vision for Easter arapaho which includes. Maintaining to general purpose lands in each direction repurchasing the existing curbside general purpose lanes traveling to be our tea and right training vehicles.
[110:00] And pedestrian and bicycle improvements, including an Austrian multi use path and raise protected bike lanes and i'll just note that. tab has seen over the last several months work on the east arapaho multi use path and transit stop project which is entering into. final design and. I just want to say that a lot of the guidance that we've received from members of tab are helping us in that final assignment process, such that we're. reducing the amount of throwaway if you will work that's being done in advance of the preliminary engineering project, so thank you to tap for that. And we're also so as it as that preliminary engineering project progresses, we have code we've collaborated with si.to develop the scope of work for this project, and we hope to issue a request for proposals by early 2022. thinking that the project, the preliminary engineering project for that core for the quarter will take approximately 12 months. We also expect that see that will be making available approximately two plus million dollars and funds for the city of boulder proof to.
[111:06] proceed with preliminary design and potential right away acquisition for improvements identified in the 30th and Colorado quarter study to the cholera seven and 38 street intersection shown here so arapaho and. 30th street. The last regional quarter update i'll be sharing with you this evening is the Northwest rail project so approved by voters in 2004 feels like a really long time ago. As part of the fast jack's boat and at full build out the commuter rail project was expected to cost over one and a half billion dollars. and much of this class is associated with double tracking the be nsf tracks were approximately 40 miles. Building 11 stations and running trains at a pretty high frequency, as you can see here 15 minute peak and 30 minute off peak service and as we're all well aware, due to financial constraints Northwest rail has not yet been built.
[112:04] And so, given that over the last several years, the idea of a peak service or a relatively quick lower cost way providing limited rail service with three trains into Denver in the morning and three chains out of Denver in the afternoon has gained momentum. And in August of 2021 the art CD approved the RD board approved $8 million for the Northwest rail line peak service study. goals with a steady include importantly determining project costs because it's been. a very long time since any decree of engineering or operational work has been done on this quarter. And impacts, as well as preparing for the possibility of federal funding and developing a coordinated operation plan. with other passenger rail service and what I mean by other passenger rail service specifically is the front range passenger rail. And it's a statewide initiative to develop passenger rail between Pueblo for cons with eventual plans to extend even further south and north and, as you can see from this map.
[113:05] or know if you can see the Center of it, but there are a few potential lyman's along the front range with the Northwest realignment being the leading candidate for passenger rail. Another consideration in this entire discussion is i'm checks amtrak's interest in expanding the US passenger market for inner city room. And their interest in this quarter, in particular, so, as you can see, there are a few different potential partnerships with our TD Amtrak and the front range passenger rail to consider as they initiate this study. So, moving forward our staff is actively partnering with our TD in Northwest serious communities to select a steady consultant we're reviewing proposals now. The study will include extensive Community engagement and is expected to start in the first quarter of 2022 and be completed by 2024. So with that I will stop and ask if there any questions comments and feedback for myself, thank you very much.
[114:03] Thanks. tab, what do you think anybody want to chime in here. I can't see everybody, so you want to time I go ahead and unmute and and open. up. To questions gene the money that is being diverted from the Federal Government via si.to the county. Rather than to our TD, and without passing judgment on whether that was right or wrong or whatever. So what are we going to do with that money, or is the county figuring that out, I was just going to give it back to our TV is a little allowances, they improve service us it's going to work, you know.
[115:05] Well, I will start by saying we are in the process of figuring out, but I would defer to natalie and Danny to provide more of an explanation. yeah I mean I think jeans got it right we're in the process of figuring it out. we've had an initial conversation with the county and the other local jurisdictions that. are receiving a portion of the funding and there will need to be a lot further conversation with sita and FDA about how that money can be allocated for eligible activities. But the focus will be on restoring services that have been cut and it doesn't necessarily need to be the exact same service that was there before, but it needs to serve the purpose of the service that was cut so. I think that's that's kind of what we know right now and and we're happy to keep you all posted as we learn more and really determine how we are going to specifically spend the money.
[116:09] Okay, thank you, and the second question I have is. I think for gene, but anyone. As the. passenger rail study, which is what an $8 million study that I understand that correctly. The Northwest real study is a million dollars, yes. So does that study include an evaluation of. protective services like brt to limited service rail. So that is not the purpose of the study, the purpose of the study is to determine the cost and impacts of rail service itself.
[117:06] And what that would mean in terms of a complimentary best Peter service, but the intent is not to open up the discussion to rail or brt it would it would include the be the underlying names brt network as part of that whole system. So, by doing the study. Are we continuing to. Not. Do the in the work necessary for the RT and i'm not just a Dr D advocate I just trying to understand. How. We, as a community and city as a county as a Northwest region. Are we going to have an opportunity to make that sort of choice.
[118:02] Or is our governor just driving this to you know limited rail, etc. I would love to understand if we're going to be presented with some alternatives. At the conclusion of the study or even even before the studies concluded. So i'm given that given that's not the intent of the study there's going to be a robust Community engagement process, and I would say that that is the avenue, by which to provide that type of feedback to our TD. related to the priority of rail. I would not in any way characterize this study as slowing down our investment or advocacy for beer or tea that's moving ahead full throttle on all fronts so um I guess that that's what I would share with you at this point mark.
[119:07] Okay, all right that's all thank you yeah. Thanks anyone else tab. Right. Here going thanks. Jim anything so i'm just make it i'll make an observation and then I guess it's sort of question i'm just Danny is falling falling. Falling your data story about the data, so I saw we had the if I got this right, the highest ridership ever on our rtb system literally at the point at which Colbert shut everything down. Now things are getting going again with public health and vaccines now for a. lot of the kids were really closing in on know. Society being really gone getting Hello JESSICA going in and i'm just you know our job is tab is to advise counsel and and.
[120:06] You know I feel like the story with counselors you know, we should be asking, not only for a complete and total restoration, but an expansion of us in transit services um and I saw the data if I got this right. or ridership is it 40 or 50% of what it used to be, but our service level is only at 60% of what it used to be so um I guess i'm just. I don't know, I suppose, if i'm lamenting I don't find it very satisfactory how little power, it seems we have here and i'm. guess i'm just wondering how this, how does this this request, our TV work we do we we just sort of have to ask them line by line, can you. Please do this, or is there, I don't know, maybe, maybe, my question is, could you could you share a little bit more about how how much power do we have to to you know in this and.
[121:00] Is there anything we can do, or the Council should know about the get help to to get this this transit service restored and heading in the right direction. yeah so Ryan, really, really great question and happy to provide some discussion on that. You know, I think. When rtb initially implemented it's coven plan and they did, like many transit agencies across the nation just kind of scale back. scale back they put them in the Saturday service level they. They have three basically three times a year, where they have opportunity to add service or change service service. Changes there's January, if there's June and then there's September. What they've been basically balancing is so that 60% was across the whole really the whole district. they've been adding as they can.
[122:01] But one of the stressors and it's. Some of it, some that memo and part of the discussion is that they're they're significantly limited as far as what they have, as far as operator avail availability so even when. I mentioned that by September of this year we're back up to 70% of where we were pre coated our request for additional flat iron flyer additional golden boulder reinstate. Part of that is is is being held up due to their limited operator Labor pool now what I will say in with what I think is really important, you know just from the advocacy standpoint and the presenting is. You know i've been able to attend these public meetings have all been virtual and then rtb takes any public comment that comes in, through this specific.
[123:01] email address portal categorizes that that all goes up to the board in the amount of comments that. You know, especially on these last changes the overwhelming comment was flat iron flyer to for restoration flat iron flyer for restoration and golden boulder service restoration, I mean just numerous numerous so it's making it to them. You know I think we're caught in this. You know just difficulty getting it restarted between their operator availability, you know and also just work in the finances, I think the other thing that was was interesting and you noted it was in the memo and also in the presentation that they're even our TVs same same. You know the service levels that were on the ground and 2019 they're not you know, anticipating being able to bring them back 100% you know that by 2025 2026 they're estimating they'll have 85% back and then might be, as far as far as it gets it could be redesigned.
[124:12] But you know just a really you know really kind of you know something really to kind of gather and and consider. So I think the continuous conversations help I think anything that we can do you know just to continue hearing these requests sharing them with staff and then you know elevating them through our political dialogue is just just just important we've been consistently asking for these. Really, I mean these themes. For multiple you know multiple markups and multiple public input opportunities and our TV realizes their priority the. You know they're held up on on operators for making it happen is what they'll tell us.
[125:05] Thanks Danny deal, I just have a comment to the tab colleagues I don't know if this is time for a very brief on, but I can wait that kevin's after that. You have a comment on what. The comments on my tab colleagues. Oh wait if if I should or I can just say briefly now. yeah go ahead. Okay it's just that I, you know I don't know the solution is here, but it. said, you know our job is to face Council and we should be talking about doubling transit not about accepting transit being it may be at 50% it percentile and it's be years now, so um. This is a political question obviously i'm think it has to do with our. Part our policy legislative priorities, the city is something to do with it um, but I just I want to put that marker down for me and I I don't think this is an extraordinary satisfactory.
[126:01] I guess vision of 2025 maybe getting back to I think we put our heads together on how we can be helpful city and getting staffing support this name. Thanks Ryan. yeah and Ryan, I would just offer it, you know it might be helpful to have more. Just like offline conversation with Danny and Jean about some of the work we've done as a city you regarding transit service delivery and. Potential models that we've considered the Uca dollars that Danny mentioned the money that will be allocated to boulder county and then a portion to the local governments. You know that's a start and trying to figure out how to do something a little bit outside of the box, then you know traditionally just having our TV delivery service. But I think you know danny's point is that, if we continue with the current model we you know we're constrained by our TVs driver shortages and also their funding, you know that 85% by 2025.
[127:09] is purely because you know they have systemic funding challenges that you know put them on that course, and so you know we'd be happy to share more with you, I think offline just so that you have a chance to learn more about some of the work that we've done. Thanks natalie. I don't know who, this is a question for but i've been listening to us tonight with a different filter than usual, and I usually have a definitely have a vulnerable road user filter on. Which kind of went off a little bit when I saw the Cross section that gene put up on the Colorado 119. changes and using the Q jumps just because, as we were looking at intersections that keep coming up in our safe streets report, and you know the crash histories, the.
[128:01] The bigger and Messier more an intersection that has been designed for vehicle throughput the worse, it is for the volume of road user, and so I have the same kind of concerned about that. Design when I when I see slides like that, but the different filter i've had tonight is because of the conversation i'll talk about during overboard comment but. We don't tend to talk have enough, I think about people with disabilities and people who are low income and, in particular when we're talking about transit surface, those are the people who, I think, are the you know need to use. Customers that we that we ought to be going far further to serve them, the general public and so i'm curious in these. In these conversations and iterations of service changes, and now you know getting some services back online how much has. People with low income or with disabilities and difficulty moving around with more private you know vehicles, how much has that been part of the conversation about how to prioritize service coming back online.
[129:15] Let me add. As part of our t's. Analysis when they. decide how to bring services back they do basically they conducted Title six analysis. right that. measures. Really it has a minority. Minority index, as well as low low income and when every service plan that they bring together basically has to have. Prove that there's no disparate impacts based upon the services that are coming back that they're being restored in respect to the populations across the region so that's that is occurring. system wide if our TVs plans, I think the other piece it's really important, just to consider is that the paratransit service.
[130:10] That really is is required by by FDA FDA law that within three quarters of a mile of fixed routes, there has to be a door to door option for those who were have a physical. physical disability or or who qualify who can't access the fixed route that has remained intact through code. That wasn't scaled back even with these routes being suspended or what have you so at least that safety net is still been there just that that paratransit senior service piece, you know, but that that also remains just a very important piece going forward, because it is based upon typically. What the network of routes, the the the geography of the network and then basically a three quarter mile buffer.
[131:07] In boulder we have the whole city covered, which is, which is really, really good from a pair of transit standpoint as far as the city limits. Okay, thank you. anyone else tam much probably wraps it up on this item MUS I see. hands excellent I will note that hutch appears to have left the meeting he didn't tell us ahead of time he had to leave early so we. were down a member. Thank you Danny gene. And thanks for your time. again. appreciate it alright, we move now to matters matters from staff understand, we have an update on 15th and iris possibly high live.
[132:13] Ask i'll ask you to unmute does that work. Oh, you just did and then. Maybe you should be able to so. You did it, oh no it flashed out and then now okay well you're doing great with the interpretive dance so maybe. i'll remove a Co host and add you on again see if our. Alright try again let. me unmute and it keeps meeting her so just write really big on a piece of. paper.
[133:05] I don't know natalie can you just give us the just. I can. Live has some Resto like some nice slides. To show that go along with the story. But I also know we're running late so. let's see if we have. Just one more you want to. get those. We could skip ahead if you have any other. matter just show the slides. Okay. Okay. Are we can try, we can try this move it on to matters from the board and then come back to this and be like. Sure, either way is fine with me yeah that works. yeah so maybe live leave the meeting and come back and see if it works. let's say that. it's doable. All right, if there's nothing else under management staff. Nice evening. Okay, good. Matters from the board let's see yes so there's the tab application questions.
[134:05] We don't change up very often we tried to change when a couple years ago and that changed didn't get in until this last round so Ryan, you were the first successful contender with the new question, but I did see that you had sent an email with thoughts on those application questions. So other members of tab I don't know if you've seen that. email but feel free to go to it now I didn't have any substantive changes just Basically, this is the city's process our earlier change kind of took out and unfair and huge question you know what What would you change about our regional plan patterns, or something. Something that wasn't really appropriate to ask tensile to have Member to weigh in on, and so I did look at the changes. Ryan, that you. suggested and I liked them. I didn't know if other tab Members had any thoughts.
[135:04] Okay, maybe I say a word to you love. Absolutely, please. So. You could just you know I don't this isn't super super important that these changes going there, but you know I just went through the application process, you know most marketers around then. And I remember feeling like to these questions were pretty redundant on, and those are now the questions in six and I remember working on this and just really trying to. separate the two, so I think those are redundant and then I think that. there's a couple places where it would just given the work we do, and that your main topics would bet would benefit from a little more just kind of sharper sharper focus on some language so that's like on the last question now. And then I think on the diversity, the final thing is just you know that there was a there was the last question discuss diversity of thought and.
[136:01] This is, I mean this isn't just thought this is diversity of everything we should be focused on and it's not just diversity, but its equity and inclusion and I think we should bring that up to be at least second question, and you know, really, really invite people to talk to talk to that. Okay that's the substance of what was in there. Nice do any of the other white men on this board one and restaurants. it's like their. Mark you're unmuted. Okay. No, I appreciate, I did not tackle this task and I appreciate Ryan doing that and, and I agree that the questions. That have lingered over the years without change and what well, we live in a very rapidly changing world so anyway, I support these changes and.
[137:01] i'm not sure do we send this if the board, as a group, say we do a little straw poll and say yeah we like this. Where do we send these, and how does How does that get incorporated, or is it up to someone on Council to incorporate them. yeah yeah I wonder if meredith can speak to that, I think I think it gets sent to somewhere needs to go via the magic of meredith. And, but I think it won't be it's not like a formal tab action. But it would just be you know here's tabs input and whoever compiles the questionnaires at there's a committee, I think. of Council, and so I think that they would decide to keep them or scrap them but it's not a it's not a binding to sit in any way. The revisions San yeah I can relate it those yeah so agree that our questions would be great.
[138:02] Right. So, to the extent that regard sent the questions, then, is to send it back to those who sent it to us asking the question and from a staff standpoint, we don't have any issues with this. yeah, the only thing they gave me pause I think was just the focus on electrifying transportation in the very last question um. it's question though it's not it's not it's I mean it's it's asking what I think is a very big question for us minutes what, how do you think about the interdependency and the you know relative prioritization between. mode mode shifting and electrification and and that's not the presuppose any right answer, but that I expect that to an applicant's response to that question. To really eliminate their priorities where the where the coming from with biases that with respect to those two different really important areas for us so anyway, that was the intention but i'm not i'm not willing to.
[139:03] Okay. I think I was just a little confused about that those were. two options and you were suggesting that they view the potential priority and relationship among those two goals that way, I think we could probably word it a little more. yeah it was it's not that. It might not be the friendlies wording. yeah but the idea was to just talk, talk to those two different areas, and then yeah. yeah and I love the idea, you know saying hey assess us on our goals. Mark you have a suggestion. No, I was just actually rereading that last question, and in my initial reading of it, I was, I was, I feel I have had similar response to you as well. Where we you know the electrification anyway, we different people think different things about electrification but I appreciate ryan's attempt to draw people out and to.
[140:05] Either you know so allow Council to either confirm or. Anyway, I think it's a way of drawing people out and what their biases and tendencies are toward or against so. The trick question. So anyway, I, like the question. Okay Alex any feedback. The third question about team people's I like I think it could be a little bit of a lift or unclear for someone who doesn't follow folder transportation happenings as closely. that's crap yeah. But having. Having it be having a reference there to. The goals, so that anyone, no matter how familiar, they are could answer that question and know that they're answering the question I think would be helpful.
[141:08] I don't know if that would make it too long, of a question we already have. You make a list of goals in the question. No Sir reference to the latest tmp report card or. Two other I don't know if that's a website or a document but. provide all the information needed. to point them to that report on progress. yeah. Okay. I am going to suggest that Ryan, as the main author of this, thank you for your thoughts on it you're hearing general support and some minor feedback on clarity, I think, would you be willing Ryan to. incorporate that splits it up and then just copy us on what you send meredith.
[142:04] Get blue. Full well done. Is live back can she unmute. let's get right. All right, we're in the backup now. Oh good thanks Ryan thanks for your patience and for allowing me to wear my air traffic controller headphones which apparently is the only way that we can. still work tonight so i'll just bring up just a few slides here to guide our discussion Okay, can you all see the PowerPoint okay. So yeah hi. i'm amy lewin and go by live and wanted to give just a brief update. On one of the pedestrian crossings that we talked about last month.
[143:01] 15th and iris and we'd a lot of great discussion really listen to your feedback and some additional feedback that we got from neighbors subsequent to the meeting. which was great and so tonight, I wanted to just briefly share the latest design that we have, considering that feedback also just wanted to note that we actually have hired a consultant to kind of just get another. set of eyes on it get their professional feedback it's tool design group, and they have great expertise and we just want to make sure that we're including all the design elements that would be most beneficial so. Just as a reminder, by way of reference here, this is street here going North and then iris avenue is here at this intersection and the concept that we have here is to enhance this existing crossing.
[144:03] And one of the new elements that we haven't really used before as much in these crossings in boulder is this left turn pocket to really help cyclists get over to this connection to get to the crossing. We are adding an rfp at this location, that does not currently have one and the items in yellow are the main updates, taking into account your feedback. And so, one of the things that we're proposing in this design is to actually wide in the Multi use path, as well as the crossing itself to 12 feet wide to make it a little more prominent. And then the other key thing that we discussed at length last time was extending this median so it now goes through the intersection so. The vehicles that are going eastbound it stays one lane through the intersection adds this concrete here that really will kind of calm traffic in this area and reduce the number of potential conflicts from turning vehicles that would have happened from this westbound left turn.
[145:21] As well as the potential conflicts from northbound left turns that would have been turning and crossing in this pedestrian area so. One of the things that we will be doing is in addition to that desire interview will do additional. Community engagement about this proposed change because, obviously, there are some access impacts for the residents, but this is where we've. landed, you know I know that there was some talk in some desire to make this look a little more like folsom and walnut we we really went back and discuss that and.
[146:01] It the two locations, we determined really are different in terms of the volumes and the infrastructure and conditions and that location folsom and walnut actually had a particular crash trend we were trying to mitigate. And, in discussing this where we've landed is that having the one crossing for drivers to focus on with the lights, the signs and the striping. Would we think would be the the safest approach, and so this is what we have right now and, as you know, we like to do a little rendering here, so you can see what this would look like on the ground again with that extended median that we just talked about. And so, in terms of next steps, I mentioned that consultant review of this design that will happen this month, then we will do the resident outreach and. finish up our final design, by the end of the year and go to construction.
[147:02] by the middle of next year, so. Thanks, very much for the time and again for your input and. yeah any questions or comments i'm happy to entertain a. Live can you back up to the pictures, the first picture you spent a lot time on. yeah thanks. Thank you um it looks like from one of the renderings that this the send a medium will be in concrete and not just paint. mm hmm. OK, and then also from a discussion I had with natalie. One of one of the things that we had talked about at the last meeting was to use that extended median and then. To allow a cyclist to remain a northbound cyclists to remain in the right hand lane and not have to go, you know sort of across the street in a little bit against direction of traffic. Of oncoming traffic to go straight through and natalie said it felt like from the analysis that staff did that that would require a second.
[148:07] Our fb is that right, I just want, I just want to fill in some details that I got that make this make more sense than some of the other options, so my capturing that more or less right. yeah I would want to confirm. you like. me to that. yeah yeah. And Devon feel free to chime in here about kind of our analysis of having a second or B, or if we, you know how to basically a path for the cyclists at the intersection. That that would basically require another crossing. that's correct, I think we felt if we were going to provide that option to cyclists, they would need a second rfp to do so, however, we had reservations about the rfp being activated automatically.
[149:02] With the tech. As it is a 15th and walnut earth i'm sorry false and then we'll let you know we really want the cyclist to play an active role in crossing the street as well. Okay, so will there be an automatic detection here for this rfp or will we have to take our hands off the handlebars to push the button. like this will need to push the button here okay. Okay tab do you have any. Feedback questions, mark you look unmuted. hey i'm unmuted. So. Why it, why is a single. flashing beacon. And a single. curb cut on the North side and a single cut through the extended media so yay I appreciate the extended medium.
[150:04] I still don't I don't get the why of it being preferable. I understand that you guys talked about this, but I don't get the why what is the, why is it preferable to have a single ver and make people cross the oncoming traffic go to the West side of the street. Then cross and then cut back, why is that preferable. Evan do you want to speak to that. Sure, I think what we find here is that we really just want to focus the drivers attention at the one location. And, given the volumes of cyclists and very low volume of cars on street we don't feel it's unreasonable for cyclists to us that left turn lane to cross over and get themselves to the rfp to make the crossing.
[151:02] If I could ask marks question a little different way, why can't the rfp be more in the T in the middle of the intersection, why does it have to be on the one West leg instead of sort of in the middle. i'm imagining that it's it's much more accessible for a pedestrian on one leg. That we're in in more in the middle. Okay. So has the consultant. been supplied with the alternative construction, like the folsom and wallet design. As an option. And are you evaluating costs for both options.
[152:02] yeah the the consultant will be looking at. You know, different alternatives not not just this one and we'll we'll talk to them about some of the options that we've considered and that we've heard from tap and from the Community. And then, what was your second question mark sorry. Oh cost analysis. cost analysis. yeah. awesome yes, so we we weren't doing a cost comparison you know we heard, we heard your point, you know that. You know, a real budget reason you know it doesn't really make a lot of sense, given some of the other decisions we've made on projects, so you know we're we're purely making the decision from. You know data and traffic volumes and the way that the intersection is currently designed.
[153:06] Okay. that's all i've got for today. Okay. Any other comments. Okay, great um I appreciate your flexibility and changing it up, I still love it but. I do think it's a vast improvement on what's out there right now. I also really don't for a for a green street that's trying to prioritize bicycling traffic. To have a an rfp that you have to push is as a cyclist kind of difficult to approach, especially, I think, not from the corner that we're focused on in this picture. But from the northern side of the intersection is a pretty sharp left hand turn that a cyclist coming from 16th street would have to make them out the.
[154:01] sidewalk and then hook a Left and as someone who frequently is towing a trailer those kinds of terms are difficult and I can't actually get very close to a Pole. But. You know this is another one of those like people with disabilities approaching it in a different manner than the typical able bodied cyclist. that's a that's a hard bit of geometry for a person towing a kid bike a kids trailer or another kind of trailer to navigate what we're looking at probably implementing there if you have to touch the rfp and it's not. You know, an automated trigger. So. We could have it be sensed in turn on you know automatically the way that they do it well, but and also, most of the time that would be far preferable for the amount of cyclists traffic that we're inviting here to use this. Oh, I guess, my last comment is to the extent that we can help out with any of the you know the messaging and talking to the neighbors or communicating about this change, please do come back or send send people are way.
[155:10] i'd rather than you know come here and complain then then take it out on unfairly on staff Ryan, you have your hand up I. I should have said this before so i've been appreciating to your marks leadership on on evaluation of this one. I have not had much to add but i've agreed with pretty much everything i've heard either of you say at the previous meeting and this meeting I it seems like we had there's a the two of you are. In agreement with each other, which means we've got just just for clarity at least three of five board member yeah board members that yeah we know still appreciate improvement but um I just want to make sure that wasn't unclear that i'm. Not that that's a. Market to thank you appreciate that. Alright, thanks so much.
[156:03] keep us posted. will do, thank you. Thank you. Real quick. Could you send your slides. To tab or me either one. That okay natalie. Okay, he came on screen and i'm muted and I was like oh. Sorry. No that's okay. All right, let's move back now managing board. um gosh we want to suggest an item for city council's retreat, this is our opportunity I do appreciate that we're being asked earlier in the process this year. to weigh in on what we want to ask Council to think about and this is, I think, taking the place of the usual. letter.
[157:00] that's correct and, if I may, I guess, one of the things that is a step in a staff liaison to the board, we are asked to encourage you to focus on that one thing that you think is most important that Council focuses on for transportation. Okay, so we just play word association meredith yes. and following up on where we are kiss ass at least the way I read it there's it's not guaranteed that they all get it fit into their agenda, of course. And it's not clear to me what what kind of a statement that they want we're tracking a we use specificity when describing our proposal and outline what success on our item would look like. So it's not just you know, throwing out a main idea but.
[158:03] trying to get them to add something to their agenda, I think what it would have helped us if we knew what was already on their agenda which I don't know. chemo i'm a little confused Okay, so this is instead of the annual letter, yes, so that's confirmed and. It is how we was there something what was conveyed to us in this request. Okay, I haven't seen that. Or have I said. i've missed it. I thought and then promptly forgot about it, and at the agenda setting meeting i'm like I never saw this before, and then the words you know, like real back and forth of email between me and meredith on it, so it happened in October. Taylor ryman send around a letter saying boards and commissions basically the retreat committee is in the process of planning the City Council retreat.
[159:01] there'll be doing some pre retreat work in January and so by December 15 at noon. If a board and Commission wants to suggest an item to the added the council's. to your work plan, we should speak up now, and we can only say one additional item. And they say, if you decide to offer a suggestion me encourage your boards you'd specificity with describing your proposal comment and outline what success on your item would look like. And then we would welcome the opportunity to discuss with you how that work plan relates to work at your border Commission is doing, but the ass right now is does have want to suggest an item for inclusion on Councils 2022 to 23 work plan. And so what is that one item that we all agree on and how would we describe our proposal succinctly with detail a and.
[160:02] was the last thing. Specific and allied with success on our item a book like Erica has her hand up. Like here, I thought i'd try that for a little bit. Thank you so in terms of specificity, you know this so here's an example that you've done in the past, so you know, one of the items that you had shared. That you wanted Council to focus on or program was Vision Zero but you were very specific in saying wanting to do. Something that or decrease speeds, hence the 20 is plenty and So what does success look like it was implementing a 20th funny program and having X, Y amp Z characteristics that you know that it was. Put into cities ordinance that it was signed, that there was Community education and that it was enforced, and so, and that there were other.
[161:02] Things that the city was doing to help reinforce slowing down speeds in residential neighborhoods or that 20 mile per hour speed limit was put into place so it's that kind of thing. At least that's how we were coached as liaisons to the board try and think, to encourage you to think about that little specificity. Okay, thank you, that was helpful. The only last thing I have to notice this is do, as I said, December 15 our next tab meetings December 13 so we're talking about it now, because there was. Very little chance and we're going to be able to have a meeting of the minds and write something up in two days you will be lovely if we could wrap this up tonight, but I think it's not. it's not necessarily the goal, but I just I don't even know if we could, as a group, identify one thing.
[162:00] And then have people two people assigned to work on it and bring it back for for approval at the next meeting is a possible route we could take with us. that's. Well, one thing that comes to mind for me. Is. Of course, everything we do is interrelated, you know you could you could pick any point on a circle that includes climate safety bmt mode shift and on the circle and they all intersect and they all overlap and so picking one of them is. Actually, not that difficult for me, and I think it's reaching making we're making progress on our bmt goal, as stated in the.
[163:00] tmp and it's a scenario that we, we have not made progress, we have data. The war on it. It success looks like success looks like reducing bmt reducing greenhouse gases, improving safety to get people out of their cars, you have to make the roadway safer so. You know it's all of it wrapped up and again it's kind of you could you could pick safety, you can pick anything else but. My vote is. The metric of bmt as measured in our tmp. Okay, but what would counsel action look like this is. bright Council action would be to do, the one thing they can do, which is direct the city manager to direct the transportation department to implement policies that actually made progress and got people out of their cars.
[164:12] Using Council the newly elected Councils, both political capital and political will to do that. right because because making progress on bmt will not be easy, it is not simple it is controversial and upset some people. But it is our goal, and it is in our tmp and it was adopted by the prior Council unanimously, and we know we're failing at it so. For this Council to say this is important to us, we hear you tab and city manager transportation department you we we have your back, we will support you, we will provide cover because.
[165:04] We are we are the new Council and we take this seriously and we're going we want you to act on that in within your department, because Council date they acknowledge that it's not Councils role to. determine color of pylons or or with the Multi use paths, but to provide broad policy direction and so that's what this Council could do is provide very broad policy direction political will and courage to actually make progress on our goals. Okay. Because if look at that. Ryan well so it's giving you the clapping modi Ryan, I would love to hear your thoughts here. So I think we're writing a manifesto right now. I think marks on the right track, I think that that focusing on on one of one of our tmp goals is is the right thing to do.
[166:05] Because that's what we care about um I think I think that. This is such a big and, in many ways, political. job to do it's very it's it's very it's hard and I think making inviting Council to be a partner in that. Will will benefit staff, it will benefit, you will benefit city. And I think one simple reason is because simply by going through the process of briefing counsel on it and saying you know, this is about moving beyond status quo and you're going to have to do things that are are just you know. rounding the edges, I think I think the the benefit of going through a process with Council which will is probably what we need to be able to do that. um and I think one thing that Council could say is you know, will we expect briefings on this every I don't know what duration, but something to cut to create a little create some accountability for it.
[167:10] And then something to really get you know Council to. provide the direction and the and the cover and. The support to say staff yeah you're gonna you might have to do some things that are going to cut side the lines from like what's we've done before, but we're asking you to do it so. i'm supporting something like that. Okay, would you envision the Council action would be. It was similar to what mark said I don't know if we need a couple of Sub bullets under it, but we yeah I mean it could be to direct. Direct staff to maybe like I don't know, maybe, if you if you're a few points of it can be development assessment based of. progress to date and what the challenges have been and what we need to do about it what it will take to.
[168:03] achieve the goals and then to to achieve the goals and then number three to report back to us quarterly until we've achieved the goals I don't correlate the right, the right direction or frequency of it. Maybe that's too much detail, but I mean just those kinds of things I would imagine being that the idea by. Okay. So you're basically our climate guy. Is this climate enough for you to be empty goal to focus on the bmt goal. You know, because it's a. Part of it it's a big part of that. yeah. So. I think it's the part where we've been this the softest and I think it's the so one says no i'd rather say let's talk about climate let's have it let's do the grand. And the translation climate strategy, but um I think that might be a more useful discussion after we go through a more focused one on mode chef or.
[169:01] The empty slashed you know mode shifting I think this is where we probably need to dig dig dig the deepest and if we have that as a as a foundation to go from, then we can add in the easy part. But I don't feel stronger. hmm okay interesting Alex you have any thoughts. I like what i'm hearing i'm trying to think how some of these actions might overlap with things that would. be going into the tmp update anyway. And i'm curious if a success or something like this would include more. High impacts near term options that Council could take versus the 10 year things that will do to reach our goals at our tmp horizon a decade from now. Some of this could be fairly parallel to things that we're already going to do, but I think if we could pull out some near term quick when things that require that political capital and well, I think that would be more of a success, in my view.
[170:11] Such as. It could be a policy thing it could be any program it could be infrastructure. I don't know I mean any of the above okay. i'm. i'm still a little preoccupied with the lack of action on our you know major arterial walls. And I know that those are hard to work on and part of the hard part is that there see that roads, for the most part. I think was pretty encouraging some of the information that we heard from Devon earlier about you know ongoing work. With si dot and through si dot, but we know that's a very slow moving bureaucracy and I don't have a great idea of a Council action that would.
[171:05] just get to slower speeds lower volumes and lower you know injury and death rates on those major roadways, but I do think that, without specifically asking Council. To turn a spotlight on that those roads. That we're going to continue to get drops to the streets reports that you mentioned 65% of crashes, on page 41. If they have their staff isn't going to be pushed to to really and and supported in in trying to cut down speeds and volumes on these roads, they there's no reason, they should be sticking their necks out Council needs to stick their neck out first and. Have the city manager, you know identify this as a priority, direct them publicly prominently so that it doesn't it doesn't fall to staff to figure this out.
[172:08] What is Council action on that look like I don't know can counsel do it congestion pricing I don't know you can definitely play with parking pricing, or you know instruct the city manager to play with parking pricing more than they have. I don't think there were i'm worried about parking if we don't if we don't discuss the strip the strategy that it falls under it's just going to get. kicked out of the room if we if we if we don't if we don't have the story, the positive story. right if we don't tie it to the goal or say we're. Leading yet. yeah, which is why I think marks approach is a good one, like oh sorry this goals, already been decided. Help us get there. The other thing is, I think you know 20 is plenty That was a big success and I think it was also easy for people to get it was intuitive it was an easy easy thing to know, so I you know.
[173:07] I offer that as a design criteria criteria on this what's like a super easy thing for a lay person to remember and understand. Okay what's our what's our plan going forward here. I just want to feed on the 20th planning thing and because, for those of us that were on tab. When. It seemed like 20 years. 20 is plenty was an impossibility on 13th street and then suddenly a Council member. gathered up some support and. That changed that whole dynamic changed when. councilman gates decided hey I want to work on this and suddenly it staffs attitude towards a change it went from unobtainable to.
[174:12] done with signs in this amazingly short period of time, so I think whatever we choose and really um I think it's it's a it could be arterial I like arterial I think that's a great idea. it's it's is it is it something that if we if Council chose to act on it, that is achievable and maybe the empty is too big. You know it's a big thing and that's attractive in that regard, maybe it is too big and maybe. something you know, like 20 is plenty is preferable or lowering speeds on our tutorials si.be damned or whatever it might be, I think.
[175:01] The 20 is plenty example that Ryan gave is a great example of what political will can do, because it wasn't a slam dunk until Council decided to make it a slam dunk. So why don't we let's just pick two people and and and let them get on with the molding and drafting and debating. hi I appreciate your volunteerism mark terrific thanks. Brian would you like to join them. Excellent. I would like to make sure that. Our other cast Members have the opportunity to. stick their head in the right or whatever. Okay. I agree Alex if you're feeling or Tila to feel on this i'm happy to give it to you as well.
[176:04] i'm feeling a little over committed these days so i'm. gonna let this one go to someone else Alex. happy to pass this on to mark and Ryan, it sounds like. articles are the theme that helps achieve many of our goals speed kills the arterial speed management plan for the Program. Right. So as. The senior Member of the single item Council committee. What without violating any open meetings law or anything else, then, if Ryan, and I work together on this, we could welcome. One way suggestions in one way input of g to likes our materials mark likes bmt Ryan likes climate and then.
[177:06] trust us and let us work on that and we'll we'll be back with you, but certainly you can provide us with one or more different options to. To get us thinking. Okay, great. Thank you appreciate that. And I have a feeling, you know they say be specific, but I think they also would rather we be succinct so you know, the more, and this is, I think, where mark is really good as being quite quite pithy and capturing some stuff that. It doesn't have to be bullet pointed out. So okay good I feel good about that. I. lost my other window. So next is the tab Rules of Procedure and.
[178:05] it's sort of a little perennial item and i'm wondering if it's not more appropriate to just table it until our. retreat we feel like we have a lot of dangling items for our retreat this one definitely feels sort of retreat worthy. I have not heard extensive feedback on either the nuts and bolts of it, or whether we think at this point it's even a worthwhile thing to do. I forget how it was structured, but I presume we would have to vote on it, and so we might have to have a. public hearing to be able to adopt it, this is a question that had not occurred to me before a couple of days ago. That I can kind of consult. But I believe, if we adopted, it would be an action that we're taking we're supposed to have a public hearing for any action so we're not going to take any action on it this evening.
[179:03] I would like to suggest that we table it until the retreat. any objection to that thinking about that mark. no objection, I support taking it to the retreat. I keep intending to do some editing or suggestions on it, and only today, did I actually get around to it, but it was not very complete so um but, as I read it more carefully today. I appreciate the amount of effort that went into it. And I kept comparing it to the current. folder revised Code sections and anyway, I appreciate you I do appreciate the amount of work, you put into that, and you know I do struggle with one particular section, but I think if we have this as a retreat agenda item with the goal of.
[180:10] Being able to come out of the retreat. being prepared to go into the retreat with a bunch of edits and thoughts and then come out of the retreat with a an item that I review is probably likely we need to. Have a public hearing on adopting new procedures. That we come out with something that is ready go ready to go after the retreat. Okay. I think another good reason to put it off to the retreat is that we're it some of some of the friction that gave rise to this effort has East, I think, and at the moment i'm certainly feeling more comfortable with. The way tab tab and staff have been interacting and setting agendas and. So it doesn't feel like an urgent.
[181:02] solution to an urgent problem. So hearing no objection we're going to table this until the retreat we'll just hold drafts in advance. and give ourselves time before the retreat to really review it more on it think about it. Good, then we can just get it off the gym Okay, we move now to open board a comment. I think i'm going to let Ryan go first cuz he sent an email earlier this month to this sort of as a placeholder. Talking about how we're right in the middle of you know, global climate summit and so well i'm not gonna put words in your mouth Ryan, do you have anything for open for comments. yeah I guess the email i'm not sure if there's much for me to say I was a it was I was questioning or maybe I was proposing that we have a briefing on top 26 and what, if anything, bowlers doing about the climate talks that were in the middle of this, you know this week.
[182:05] I don't think that that I don't have anything prepared to say to it and I don't know the staff, does it so but um maybe in future, our future meeting so anyway, I didn't have anything else other than just. i'm i'm curious did you think to reach out to anyone on EB, to see if they're already planning to do some kind of run down I know we've had previous discussions with them and. About sort of how this is one area where siloed thinking is not really helping us because transportation does have such an impact on climate change, environmental. Policies that they need to be, we need to be interacting more with them, but this might be a good place for the idea it's a. Good it's a good point, maybe following the meeting because we. need on their meetings. Sorry, is it let's put it on there me. Fine, but yeah we have not had as far as I know, we've had not had any substantive.
[183:02] Partnership between tab nav on climate and transportation. Right at some dialogue around the Council study session last summer, but we do i've there's been no follow up, that is. Okay well why don't I forward what you sent to Miriam hacker and see see what she thinks about. To start, because I know her personally and can be a. Very well, under the radar thing and see if she thinks that that their current board would be open to spearheading this kind of effort. Okay, thank you, anyone else open board comment. I just had one one thing to kind of mull over as I alluded to earlier tonight, I had a. You know, an eye opening conversation with a totally blind the traveler Jordan caster. Earlier today, came out of an email conversation I saw that makes me he was on, but I think he's off now she's met with him over a year ago, I think.
[184:08] She lives near say arapahoe and 30th ish. And i'm seeing some other nods recognitions movie she's been in touch with a few of you, I think. There are a lot of places where her concerns definitely intersect with work that's ongoing or, at least in the work plan. But it's always difficult to kind of communicate to citizens what what's actually happening now what prevents you know instant change what kinds of competing jurisdictional issues, there are in places like arapahoe. And you know that term rtb bus service was truncated and all these kinds of things, and also to really listen to their concerns and make them feel heard. and ensure that they're not invisible and I thought, actually, we have not done a very good job.
[185:05] Considering speaking about and having front and Center people with disabilities and more than the typical difficulty in. getting around that we should have and as as people trying to build all kinds of equity into the work that we do this is, I think a no pun intended a blind spot that we've had. She raised a number of issues about those push buttons to cross the street how inaccessible, they are for someone with no vision or low vision different kinds of technology that had been unrolled. Over the years, and our you know our sort of piecemeal approach on on just changing mass heads and on signals to get left turn arrows is telling me how slowly that kind of infrastructure changes and so um, I just wanted to raise it tonight.
[186:05] To say I think we can be doing a better job about thinking about this, we can probably be doing a better job and I really not impressed with the new cities website finding information about what staff is doing is there somewhere and it's still very difficult to find. And I want to just have a mental placeholder so that, when we are doing work. You know, in the coming year on destiny crossing treatment guidelines and things like that that we make an effort to reach out to to her to other people with disabilities, I think when live was driving the. The pedestrian Action Committee for rtmp update she did an excellent job at thinking these things through. and reaching out but it's something we need to continue to do Eric I see your hand is up. Oh, thank you appreciate it so just wanted to let you know that we have been in the process. As part of regret a grander effort or bigger effort dealing with Ada throughout the entire city.
[187:05] But putting together and we actually have you know, an initial draft that we've prepared for a transportation Ada plan that we've worked together with folks with disabilities and so forth, is different, you know, stakeholders and so forth, so we've been trying to. build up that body of work, and then you know we come back at a future date and talk with tab about that. So it's just wanted to make you aware that a we have been doing things sort of you know back at the other, the factory and we've been trying to make sure that we've been getting. As much input and information and counsel and advice, as we can, but the other thing to the the the individual that you spoke with last year she'd actually interacted with a fair amount of our staff and. As you said, it was very much a learning process and so we've been taking that information and trying to incorporate it into you know our go forward thinking and planning about know.
[188:07] Things that you know that we would consider to be simple terms of buttons and so forth, trying to make sure that surfaces, you know are. Not too slippery and so forth, so things like that, just to cover as a couple of examples, and you know, maybe natalie if you had any additional things that you'd like to share. yeah I mean, I think you covered it and and we'd be happy to share we jedi godwin who recently left us she has been working on this. Ada self evaluation plan for gosh probably two three years at this point, and that we have an executive summary that we could share we did quite a bit of Community engagement around that. And the next step is you know, developing the transition plan to be able to meet the goals, you know that we've identified through the.
[189:00] Self evaluation, so we can share that out with tab just so that you have that as awareness and will be coming to tab as we kind of identify a process for developing the transition plan you'll definitely be a stakeholder in that process. Okay. appreciate that Thank you. In the meantime, you know she is interested in in talking to staff, again I think generally she's had a good experience with that, but she's you know frustrated as. I think it's quite understandable with plans that have been underway for the assessments for two or three years because she's got to leave the House, you know tomorrow morning essence. This doesn't help her every day commute and we've all we've all gotten to experience what it's like to be a shut in and as we're all getting to go back out. She is still to some extent trapped by the lack of infrastructure and the lack of practical implementable tools for her today and I just want to make sure that we remember that.
[190:06] Thank you, thanks. anyone else. Okay, then. Where you to keep us on time. Future agenda topics, you can see the list here I don't think I have any updates on anything in particular. So unless anyone has more feedback or something to add take off mark go ahead. yeah, so I do in fact really reading your procedures. and giving that initial go through, and then then looking at the length of our. Agenda to future agenda topics and the persistence and the.
[191:02] longevity of some of those items. i'm going to make a proposal, one I would like to add an item to that list and to I like to make a suggestion or request that we could do as early as tonight, and that is to take a straw poll. Of the board, and does the board support the continued. life of those of those proposed agenda items and by voting on them up or down. We would be able to. then decide if this is something that. Staff doesn't want to do, does the board want to tackle it ourselves, but, but I would like some resolution on these things.
[192:01] And and hear from staff it's like you know if you guys are going to tackle that issue okay that's, that is, we can't direct you to do anything we readily acknowledge that. And, and I don't think any of those agenda items are are an attempt to direct staff at anything but if if it is something that if the board wants to tackle it we're going to have to tackle it on their own i'd like to know that if it's something that staff is working on silently. Great just give us a time frame if it's. If it's something we all agree is important great if it's something everyone thinks is a harebrained idea and they wish mark with let it drop then just raise your hand and say I vote we remove that item from the future agenda item list. It would be i'd like some resolution on it and I don't want to direct anyone on how to do anything but it's chair one way to do that would be to just put straw poll down the list.
[193:08] Okay, like it would not. Remember, these things are going to happen so most of your eyes. When not if. Right and I wondered so. We spent quite a bit of time at the last agenda setting mean going through each of these items with Tila and Alex and so. Like I wonder if it would just be. Like maybe we need to get more clear about what a future agenda topic like what goes on this list, and then, once we've accounted for something that's you know, in the work plan and on our tab calendar. Then it can come off this list you know it's we've all come, you know to agreement on what needs to happen next, because most of these we have talked about, and they will be coming to you at some point. I think there was the only one that I think to is just for clarification on the leaf on one.
[194:05] But I think everything else will be coming at some point. Okay, and then I wasn't sure about he process for future opportunities, so this is about. Having total yeah That was one that. For you guys to. yeah right right. yeah so does that clarify some of it mark. A C D E, F and G are definitely going to happen and we're so we're just still kind of in a holding pattern on B and E. Okay i'm i'm looking at the second. i'm unclear about each. Okay, I think this is referring to. How we if Council continues to invite tab to have some input at the concept review phase of a new development.
[195:06] Which now they do by invitation only in which they did you know, for the first time last month, two months ago. We didn't really have a very solid process so that was kind of touches comment like we didn't really know what we were doing where the product was supposed to look like and. How we did it, and so we kind of need to figure out, you know, when asked by Council to weigh in what way it looks like. Yes, what yes So yes, I support that agenda. yeah. yeah it could be a retreat, or it could we could you know put in some discussion of it. You know, a future meeting looks looks light. off, but if that happened. So that's what he is doing so I guess what we're seeking is clarification from staff, right now, what I think mark is speaking is clarification should should we be inviting clay on describing the presentations should we be waiting Eric I guess.
[196:05] So i'm talking, you know with nuria about this. So. amy amy came, you know, is responsible for this whole area, and I have been asked to be able to be in lockstep with everyone else and it's on you know the work plan to be able to get this in front of folks but the. Whole I guess you know messaging and so forth, wanted to be able to have a consistent across you know all boards and across you know every place in the Community and we're just a little bit behind. So it's you know, one of the things it's not it's not as if we're not going to do it, but it's just trying to make sure that we're doing it the right way that makes sense. Yes, that makes sense, thank you and I appreciate the acknowledgement that these things are not just in some.
[197:03] limbo that's that's great um. And i'll just simply say that I did witness the presentation at another board meeting you know now going on six eight months ago, so anyway. and understand that. Consistency and and policy across boards, is a good thing, and I appreciate. That. So if it's going to happen and it's just a matter of when and and massaging some policy things. Great. equity and acknowledgement of our current world and our past history, there is some urgency, there and, and so I would I would encourage us to. do what we can, especially on light agenda items light agenda.
[198:05] Meeting. Meetings Thank you. White tonight. You know, could have been could have been a good night so anyway do what you can and let's let's see if we can make some progress there. Okay, thank you. That was actually useful in discussion. And I have, I want to add one to the list and. Yes, and I will again this is this is one where it's again I would appreciate, whether it's now or. At the next meeting when we have time to play ball at time, all of this over and it's not going to be news or a surprise because i've talked about it before, but as we deal with pedestrian crosses and we deal with the success of our SMP.
[199:03] I really, really would like to see us implement an SMP like process for pedestrian crossing now that's what i'd like to see, I would like to see us discuss the possibility of that what that looks like. If people are opposed to it if staff supposed to, why is it expensive whatever it might be, but I think our again our innocent P, is a model of success for Community involvement objective criteria on so many levels and. I think that type of process needs to be applied to pedestrian process so that, for instance, the the speaker who who came on tonight, he spoke he spoke quite well he had gave us some very good reasons.
[200:03] And, as per as per the the future. Your Rules of Procedure, you know we really we really don't do much response in the moment to to to the public and and people who have a request and. And I feel a void there. In pedestrian crossings we it's something that that is important to the Community is a high demand. And we get pinged about it repeatedly and I would like to see us have a process where we acknowledge those requests evaluate them under a criteria and then approve it on a budget, just like we do the SME.
[201:03] So the reason that the nsf has its own process is it's a you know, a. flavor of project that is new, unique and restricted to boulder. And it's a place where we've asked for and to some extent, maybe there was a speed kidney. Where we asked staff to do some non standard things and to do more than just a standard speed hump and we're still you know sort of developing what that what that program looks like. But for pedestrian crossing treatments, I mean there's there's sort of binding manuals about when and where you do them that i've been seeing some nodding from natalie it's it's not a place where we. are inventing the wheel there's actually like engineering standards for it now, I think, maybe what you're talking about is whether to have enhanced treatments, like the visa kind of.
[202:06] stuff make them better know what he. So i'm unclear what you're asking for it well, I know the scoring rubric or something but. When we apply that because we're we're supposed to be or staff is supposed to be already doing that kind of thing for evaluating any Prosecutor, which is every intersection you know, unless there's some reason not to. So i'm i'm talking about popular and broadway 15th and iris. Full sermon walnut how those. pedestrian crossings were decided. were decided upon. How they were designed and implemented. Public feedback for those Canyon and 26 you know just any number there, there is a demand, there is a request in the Community.
[203:05] For gee I would, I think we need a pedestrian crossing at 30th and o'neill circle I wherever there there's a demand in the Community for these things, just like there's a demand in the Community for speed mitigation on on my street and. The SNP has provided a structure, a methodology a scoring system so that when when it comes down to. stash recommendations and tabs approval of those recommendations and public hearings we all have we've all benefited from. This structure, and we have a basis of support, that is, that is, I think, much more stable than some ad hoc process where.
[204:03] The speaker tonight says, I really think we need one year and then what what is he supposed to do, from this point. If he was asking for a speed bump he could have he could contact Ryan knowles he could get an application, you could sign up as neighbors he could go through the process we do a speed steady. It but he's not asking for a speed bump he's asking for a mark pedestrian process and. And we don't have a process for that and and so he asked what did we do we said okay thanks for speaking tonight. You know where did that, where did that request go. And not that we need to be to pop to one on every request. But I see, I continue to see the benefit in a rigorous objective process like what we use for the s&p and I think it could be applied beyond pedestrian crossing.
[205:07] But anyway, I think I think it builds a much better basis of Community support and when one neighbor objects. They don't say they can't say, well, you didn't hear me I didn't get to do this they got to speak at a public hearing on a process that their neighbors went out and got support of other neighbors. Okay process so that's what i'm saying. All right, Erica would like to chime in here. I guess two things one is just you know, to make sure that people aren't left with the impression that there's not a rigorous process, because in fact there is and. simply the fact that not every intersection gets a treatment doesn't mean that there's not a process it just means that there's a prioress. needs to be prioritization of resources and that prioritization whenever we come through.
[206:03] We have been trying to be very transparent with tab on how we go through these different processes, so I guess that's one thing and then the second thing is, which you know I think really points to you know some of the discussion we had earlier about you know equity discussions so forth. Part of our. part of what we need to do not just staff but tab is to be able to be conscious. of equity concerns throughout the Community, so that it's not just simply people raising their hand saying I want something but it's being able to do that equitably throughout the entire Community and. The reality is, is that we don't have an infinite budget we have a finite budget and even. You know, we try to do our best, we bring our capital program you know before you give you the criteria and so forth. But even with all that they're still going to be things that just don't get done in immediate term, but we have on the long term plan.
[207:08] And those things you know are identified, you know in our transportation master plan and other things that we're going to continue to bring to you, and so forth, so. I think that just from a staff standpoint, I just want to clarify that. We do have a rigorous process, but we just don't have an infinite amount of money, and I think that you recognize that collectively and so that's why we come to work together with you to create those priorities and what is fair and equitable through throughout the entire Community. Okay, and maybe we should take this offline because it's the hours getting late we've discussed this for a while, but I just i'm going to ask for another minute or so of indulgence here. The. i'm well aware that our DNS MP budget is not infinite infinite and by having a process, a public process does not indicate a an infinite budget and and I applaud and support and strive in my own life and in my service on tab to always have equity considerations at the forefront.
[208:27] And I think that that's why. I think we all. benefit from the objective criteria used in the NS MP. to score projects so that we end we do end up with, not just a speed home on the the richest street in town that happens to be wide and. there's a particular neighbor there, but we end up using objective criteria is one way to build equity, not to reduce it.
[209:05] And so again for for all the reasons you've you've stated limited budget equity concerns I can point I think I can point to our collective success with the NS MP in the process that those things are. are enhanced by the process rather than diminished by the process. Okay. So our procedures are in place, you know the the draft procedures but mark was suggesting we maybe try it out. and feel out whether other members of the board with support putting on this idea discussion of an SMP like scoring system. As an agenda topic and a future agenda, I am not convinced from what i've heard tonight that that would be a useful.
[210:09] exercise and it doesn't sound like something that staff is willing to put on. The work plan without the support and so, in that case, if we were following the draft procedures, I believe we would. mark would be seeking the support of at least one other board member put it on, and then they the those mark would take the the job of sort of organizing a presentation and and handling that portion of the meeting, my. Getting that more or less right mark. yeah so. Since Ryan Alex are the other two board members on right now, if either of you are in support of pursuing this item as a future agenda item, this is your chance to support it, or otherwise mark has agreed to just drop it, I think, yes.
[211:00] Alex you're the engineer, you should go first on this one. When we talk about updating our pedestrian crossing and treatment installation guidelines, whatever pick take I think often people are. gonna say people Council members tab members Community Members are disappointed with what they're hearing from. The city is they feel a need for a crossing and the city stands by the data that, in their view, says that there's no need for a crossing and the program as you've outlined it mark sets up for a lot of. it'd be hard to manage expectations inviting Community members to say to tell us where where they feel something is needed if they might just run into this buzzsaw of.
[212:01] installation requirements, where you know someone might feel that because there's a bus stop. That that are then the demand for crossing, but if the city takes a look at it and says that there's only a dozen people crossing here at Day, it would be dangerous to put in a crosswalk because it would give. people walking this false sense of security or the driver expectation would. accurately be that 99% of time there's going to be somebody crossing there. we're going to have trouble managing expectations, whereas beat humps are pretty straightforward. You know we've measured that. We get our cross product should ever have number of speeding vehicles per day, and we have this pre approved solution, I think the expectation, there is a little more straightforward and we wouldn't run into some issues that we might with the crossing and.
[213:05] Just putting down zebra markings or whatever is pretty low cost effort getting into. Our fb territory those those are incredibly expensive, and we might run into this thing that we have with the SMP complex list, where the waitlist is nearing decades long, I think we could pretty quickly get there if it's arterial and collector our be project wish list. Okay, so Alice sheila. Yes, please. So what I think I hear as the idea of the mark is raising it appeals to me is is that we we be implement a some way or pilot some way to give some more power or voice to.
[214:05] Community Community input on establishment of crosswalk I don't know if that's a market put it that way, but that's what I got from him to me, I quite like that. Now I think if you put the s&p Rubik straight over it, I don't recall all of the criteria, but maybe the criteria either aren't exactly right or maybe there's a way to. Extremely tighten them or do something, but maybe maybe it's not the right thing to think of it as an SMP that would create that sense of expectation. But I don't know but i'd be i'd be favorable to exploring the boundaries of what might be possible here to show it so that we at least have some tool that's beyond like the warrants are you know sort of whatever small set of options there now that really don't give. yeah I don't know, I guess, we just don't have a mechanism for.
[215:01] For this, and you know just as an example of maybe it feels like there is a threshold at which you if we have enough input and there's you can set the criteria, the right way, this. should be able to make a case for crosswalk. So no so just to be clear, we do currently use input that we received from the Community, you know if we're hearing about certain locations, that is fed into our process in the way that we prioritize things so it's not like there's no Community input component to our current process. But there's not a there's not an objective or not objective there there's not a program for in which you say to the Community hey, this is the thing you know we will it's more just, you know I think I sent an email at one point saying hey can I get across because broadway. And, but you know that didn't that didn't fit into any program as far as I know.
[216:04] Right right because it creates this you that Alex was talking about, you know the it's a real issue with the MSM P, you know we have probably a 20 year long list with the complex projects that. You know there's no end in sight and so it's just creating is perpetuating the issue. Okay. Okay, so in terms of what's going on right now, at the moment, it sounds like mark is secured support from one other tab number to think about this, he has, I believe, accepted the responsibility for. Creating content first section of a future meeting will have to figure out when that there's time for future meeting, but I believe, for now, this idea has made it onto the list of future meeting topics. So that's where i'm going to leave that for now. and Random mark you're already talking to each other about the letter to Council so. You know some of this comes up that discussion that's great.
[217:04] i'll mark i'll just check in with you, before our agenda, setting meeting next week to see if you have an idea of whether you want to proceed and, if so, when and we'll see if we can, if there is time the next agenda or when when we might build it into a future meeting. Okay thumbs up excellent anything else. No, there isn't anything else oh right. well. I wasn't sure if we were going through. So I had one on here on the on the future agenda topics where we do, making cases for those now we're explaining those now or no i'm just exactly what i'm there that. Has the word humans in it that that is consequence, something I said last meeting, so I don't know if this is the time for me to say anything about that and vote or. Are you are you saying that so. We will be talking about neighborhoods be management program criteria in the future at a future meeting in the spring. If you think there's something miss stated here is a sort of a placeholder but it's not we're not going to will do anything.
[218:04] Okay, so what I read on there as much in the last the last board meeting. The Board matters I said I want an agenda item talk about how humans are valued and it K and which do it, which I said a few words about. That was an economy that came from after the discussion I made rescue management, so I guess I don't know what was intended by the written agenda item. If it's really just. An SMP or if it was my comments saying let's have a discussion about you know basically put. Okay, I think it was understood that your comment had to do with when we're looking at the SNP. In the future, so. Okay, it was intended to be broad I mean it's started from that discussion, so it, I would suggest is worth the Stat that's worth the board's consideration of this is what I. intend to be the concept of the discussion is it an interesting useful discussion or not, so I could say what that is now, or we could do that a different time. Oh, this is the time to do it now.
[219:01] Okay, so um and in this I was, I was just kind of going. safely, as you can. Okay, so. The question is simply, there was a comment at the last meeting on the recipe from a resident who had talked about. You, how are you counting kids in this calculation and it just got to be thinking that the question of of public input and who do we expect to be getting public input from when we're. When we as as as the city, are making it seems like a topic that's the right altitude for tab. It so question of like who do we think we actually need to be hearing from and when do we know we have heard enough from the people, besides those two just you know, avoiding the way forward. So things like people from different communities natural by transit non-drivers people under 18 so you know, this may or may not be a good discussion, but I thought it was an interesting. OK so i'm going to say that, from what you've described right now it's probably subsumed under the to happen sometime but we don't know when, at the moment sort of broader equity discussion about how we're talking to.
[220:09] The Community about equity and, like our role in it, and our older to listen to absorb reflect and incorporate that feedback, I think that that that will be covered in this kind of. conversation to be had in the future so thanks for the clarification understood and we'll at the agenda setting meeting will will clean up this list. Okay. I would love to entertain a motion to adjourn. motion to adjourn. Thanks Ryan. Oh mark second good job. All right. We could put it to a vote, or we could just say yes, we all were going to adjourn. emotion is approved, thank you very much, thanks for hanging in there, members of the public by Ryan thanks for waving at us.
[221:01] always nice to see you folks will see you next month. Thanks to thank you.