August 9, 2021 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting
Date: 2021-08-09 Body: Transportation Advisory Board Type: Regular Meeting Recording: YouTube
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[0:00] style i'm. i'm going to remember that we're going to go over our roles and expectations, before I enroll into the rest of the meeting. So let's go ahead and do that allison. Just one moment. Sorry for them. Now i'm glad to hear what. We remember to do it earlier this time to have. Just one moment.
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[3:02] It should be used for a technical online platform related questions only if an attendee attempts to use chat for any other reason than seeking assistance from the host the city reserve the right to disable that individuals access to chat. Only the host and individuals doesn't by the host will be permitted to share their screen during the evening, thank you too. Thanks very much sorry to put you on the spot. We can move ahead now and turn to any amendments before we approve the July minutes from our July meeting do any members of the board, have any changes amendments or corrections to the Minutes, the draft Minutes that were circulated. I see some shaking heads. I see no hands, I would invite a motion to approve the draft minutes.
[4:02] I moved to approve the draft minutes. Thanks mark well second that before. Oh Alex you're about to unmute him because I wasn't at the July meeting. You can abstain from voting for sure. So there is a motion to approve the July minutes among those who were in attendance at that meeting all those in favor of approving said minutes raise your hand, say, I can see 1234 hands, the Minutes are approved thanks meredith you see the little moment of celebration there nice job. All right, we actually have a fairly brief and yet very meaty agenda so it's a it's a pleasure to to really start tackling some of these heavier topics and. To have our new city manager nuria river river band my on with us, I welcome you i'm very glad you're here Erica I don't know if you had any introductory comments or thoughts that we hadn't really.
[5:03] prepped any remarks in cahoots, but I would invite you. To go ahead and take the wheel at the moment. But I do appreciate you over here and I hope you'll stay on for much of. meetings we do have some you know pretty significant deep discussion topics coming up later. So to some tab numbers on the board, and you know, to welcome nuria tonight, I think that this is one of the first things that you'd asked us for staff as we received a new embrace to welcome to new city manager so without further ado, I will turn it over to Maria. Thanks Erica I wondered how you were going to do that. Right right. Well, thank you right. Thank you so much for inviting me. it's it's a pleasure, and I know that you know i'm sure you all have questions about me and although I think that most people saw the wildly public.
[6:00] sort of forum as they were searching for a new city manager, so I think most people know a little bit about me. But i'll share with you that I am much more excited to hear about you and to learn of the business that tab does. I come from cities where there is a tremendous amount of not just Community engagement, a lot of boards and commissions I joke, with people that minneapolis has about 76 and Austin had. or 83 and Austin had 76 one of those two numbers, so we come from cities where there's a lot of engagement and I come from cities where I think some advisory boards are. More I think involved in the process and others, and I am embarking on a conversation with a variety of boards as well. to learn a little bit more about how that experience has been with you all, and what those thoughts are is we're tackling some big things together, in particular, I know that. i've seen your agenda for today i'm hoping to stay for a little bit I actually have another meeting.
[7:04] That, I have to get to but i'm hoping to stay for a chunk of the conversation, as you move forward today. But know that I probably will be reaching out I know i've had an opportunity to speak with Ryan and i've asked me to. reach out to utila and to think about what other Members or around that I want to get a flavor of some of the boards and what's working well and what's not working so well. As we move forward, because it is vital for all of us to be doing this work in this, you are all more experts than I am and and things of transportation, but it's exciting to me to see how they all interact. As we move forward and, perhaps, where we have some gaps that we need to make sure that tap has eyes on other plans that perhaps go beyond Erica scope of work. into things like the climate action plan or other issues, as we move forward so i'll stop there and say I am an open book feel free to ask me questions.
[8:02] If I don't know the answer I usually say so, if I don't I can't say the answer i'll usually say so as well, so kind of what you see, is what you get with me. Thank you, Maria you might have seen that mark mcintyre email, the questions he and I spoke earlier, I would like to get to that one pretty quickly, but before we do. I am curious if you have a sense of how formal or informal or frequent or infrequent our reactions as members of the Board should be with. You or members of your direct staff, as opposed to trying to coordinate things through Eric I think that Erica probably has a preference for trying to to coordinate and put out fires. And they don't I don't know that there's a there's a conflict with that, but I don't know what your expectations and your experience are about my interactions with boards like ours. yeah. i'll say that it is. In my two previous cities both minneapolis and Austin we had a staff liaison most of the boards and commissions ran through that staff liaison.
[9:07] We would provide in both the city's opportunities for Stat for our advisory boards, particularly on issues that pertain to them to speak directly with Council and we would present and then allow for space for that. Here, I understand that there's a lot of conversation happening about boards and commissions i've been in touch with some of the Council members that are on the subcommittee. For boards and commissions, you are a body that is appointed by Council. And really figuring out what does that look like, for you that's one of the reasons that i'm engaging in conversations with a variety of the boards and commissions, we have. In the city to just get a better sense of how is it that you communicate with Council members or to leadership in this case may, although you've got a great leader in Erica as you move forward. As you can imagine it's hard with so many boards and commissions for me to be meeting directly with everyone at any given time, but I do think that, when there are media issues when there are topics that are critical.
[10:05] You know i'll want to hear and i'll probably tag Erica and see what's on the agenda, and perhaps pop in occasionally because I think it's important to see that. I do keep track of meeting minutes I do look at some of the other boards and commissions, who are recording and occasionally stop in but mostly it's going to be on topical issues of great interest as that most forward. Okay, thank you um. I let's go ahead and turn to marks question mark you you wrote it out and send it out, do you want a moment to restate it or do you think yeah you've got it kind of nailed it it's not of course in the records, so we need to. make some kind of public record here above what your what your question is but. Do you. incorporate your literally if you want me to read it. Fine, but. Everyone well actually the the public hasn't.
[11:01] read it, so I guess Maybe I should quickly just read through so that the members of the public. Have a have an idea of what was being asked so after welcoming nuria and being excited and anticipatory of. Being able to talk with her, I wrote the following and preface, it is my personal perception that we, the collective we encompassing the city. are good at setting and setting aggressive goals, this is especially true of our climate goals, goals that I think we can all agree need urgent action. However, our various plans and actions for many departments do not reflect the urgency and need for action and change that our goals demand or 2019 transportation master plan and tonight's agenda item seven. Climate and transportation briefing our excellent examples we chose a 2030 planning horizon for rtmp climate goals we have used 15 to 20% of the time allotted to reach those goals, but our progress is poor and I attached the.
[12:21] report on progress report card, my question is why. Why are we struggling to meet our collective goals, goals that Council voted for unanimously and what can we, as an advisory board due to support staff in urgently, making the changes needed to reach our goals That was my question. So that's a great question mark right like I i'm recalling and I hope i'm getting this right, but I believe there was a report a few years ago, I want to say bye brookings institute that looked at this very issue. And said, you know communities all across the nation are like spending all this time setting goals and committing, particularly on.
[13:06] Climate Action and reducing emissions and really lofty goals, and yet the report suggests that we haven't gotten to where we are so you're not the only one, posing the question right. I don't know when i'll be honest, I don't know yet enough the dynamic of the city, but i'll say that a couple things one is I. I don't know how many of you saw the Climate Action Plan recently and the update. But one of the things I really liked and appreciated about that plan and that update was really looking at going beyond just what a siloed department is looking at, and I think we've got more to do in that regard right. Like I think climate initiatives has done a good job of setting forth what we're moving forward and thinking about systemic change. But i'll pause it, and this is a conversation i've had with others, and will continue to work with staff, a little bit more is. Where are the other departments or other advisory board fitting into some of the things that are moving forward.
[14:04] Moving forward on climate isn't just about transportation, although obviously that's a big part of it, but you know doing. Creating hubs and multimodal and trying to electrify our vehicles all of that is terrific as we think about it, but how does that fit into housing and how does that fit into sort of 15 minute communities, and how does that fit into. Some of the other development conversations that we're having and the impact on affordability and so forth right so. weaving some of this, I think, is a really important aspect of figuring out better mechanisms to leverage each other's collective wisdom, if you will. So I think that's something that cities in general struggle with not, not because they want to keep everyone in the silo but because we as cities. Just you know we're working on our particular things it is something that I am thinking about how to. bridge and we leave the transportation master planned with the police master plan with the climate action with housing like really how do we think about those all those pieces as interlocking.
[15:11] So I think there's always work to do there The other thing i'll note to and it's timely your question, because I was just having this kind I had an earlier meeting this morning with. Our county partners our school district our county see you and the city maps and we were actually the topic of conversation was transportation. And really thinking about how can we leverage each other in different ways and there to there are silos wanting to be or not. But we're thinking about bringing even our staffs together, who work on transportation and this could be an opportunity to even bring. Our advisory boards, as we move forward but thinking about the levers that aren't ours right like the city can only do. A piece of it, the county has bigger levers, there is a regional conversation to have with our TV about what they're doing in this realm.
[16:06] The school districts, which is trying to figure out how do I bust kids less because they're living closer to the schools that they attend. versus having to spend time putting more buses out on the street it's a complex nuance and I think that the time is overdue, to really bring us all to have a good conversation about. livability and transportation and commuting and what our goals are going to be, how do we urge, how do we put a sense of urgency to things like development and what is boulder going to stand for, so I don't have an easy answer to you. Right, other than I think that there's just more work to be done to leverage the whole versus what it always feels like is that we're really leveraging pieces of the components, instead of really thinking about how to press the levers and make it a bigger a bigger push for urgency.
[17:00] Well, thank you and I appreciate your. Emphasis on urgency, and you know, a day doesn't go by, with the smoke the you know just everything whether it's deaths of pedestrians and cyclists or others and in automobiles and our climate, the sense of urgency, I think I can speak for tab is high on our part and. And I think that, from a transportation perspective. The the Board has tried to look at every piece and say how does this move us forward in in. In our goals and and I personally am an advocate of that we don't necessarily need big grand solutions, we need a whole lot of small. actions that add up to these grand solutions, but you know every, the devil is in the details and and moving forward on.
[18:08] Some things that might be boring to others are our capital improvement programs, and so forth anyway it's important that we concentrate on all those little things but I appreciate your sense of urgency and your answer, thank you. And you're aligned with brookings at the end of the day one of their conclusions was we really I don't know that we need loftier goals we need implementable goals, we need to actually see things done. As we move forward, and so it appears, you are right alongside some of our scholars, as we move forward in this. I think if I could, I would just take small issue with something that mark just said, which is you know it takes a lot of a lot of moving a little details and I think, to some extent we've done a lot of things on little details and one of the. biggest points in our Year and letter to counsel at the end of last year was we've done admirable work around the margins, but.
[19:05] The majority of our dangerous streets and our high injury and fatal crashes are happening on arterial roadways. And those that's a big lift to change how those operate change how how people behave on them and change. What what we are seeing and what we are about to discuss in further detail that's a very big lever. And I think another question I have just super briefly I don't want this to go on too long, there has been a movement move in the direction of involving tab more. directly and earlier on in certain land use planning processes I haven't heard anything recently and I don't know Eric if you know anything but, while I have you both here does anyone know anything about. formal changes to the Charter that would allow tab to be consulted on a regular basis without specific invitation by the Council on land use decisions concept review or otherwise.
[20:02] I don't know myself and maybe Erica knows more I know that we're going to have a bit of a conversation at tomorrow's meeting about. Bringing in boards and commissions sort of closer into design process as we move forward so I guess we'll all get to learn a little bit more about that, but. It is something all earmarked for my own sort of homework to go look back at what that looks like and maybe Erica has more knowledge about it than I do. So I think a nohria nailed it in one, and I think that. tab is not the only board or Commission that has an interest in you know more engagement. For actually very the some of the self same reasons that you just talked about in terms of goals and so forth, and so as Maria said, tomorrow night Councils going to have you know, a discussion around at least part of those things. Okay, I appreciate that I was specifically talking about the portion of the chart that says tab shall not weigh in on land use decisions unless specifically invited by Council and we've been we've been hearing some encouraging news that there's you know.
[21:10] A desire to integrate that more fully recognizing that transportation or land use planning are connected and ought to be connected instead of siloed that's all I was trying to raise. I got it and I have written it down myself just. hate it I. Thank you so much for coming and joining us does any other Member of tab have anything they want to leave nuria with Ryan. Very good, so good to have you and also, I just want to say thanks for being generous with your time with limited me the other day. I just have to be super brief first wanted to just endorse what what mark said about urgency and I, and I think one of the I can't remember if I would have said this already or not to you, but. One at one of the things that feels like a like a really strong tool in any department and the city is. is like just what's the list of actions that you take today, based on basically just kind of like first principles logic your redemption issue and getting to that just It just seems like like an opportunity across departments, including this one.
[22:10] And then the. i'll just cut to the chase I guess i'll offer one question i'll make a comment it's an optional question, if you want to take it, but. equity, I think, is one of these topics that obviously crosses so many so much of what we do across the city. And it's it's it's something that I think also is a little bit in the eye of the beholder with with our various stakeholders, including within the city with with the public. And it's kind of I think we have this this situation now, in which it's I don't think it's very well defined and again at least some common parlance, in which. We can all sort of understand the principles so it's kind of easy in almost any decision to say, well, we shouldn't do this because of equity or we should do this because of equity. And i'm and I guess, I would just the comment is if there's some process through the racial equity. Implementation Plan or otherwise to just create, I guess, a little more of a kind of a discipline or an understanding about what what we've been and what we what counts, I think that would that would help a lot with what we're trying to do here so welcome to comment but no need to.
[23:11] yeah no I appreciate that and actually i'm happy to comment, a on that piece i'll say that I think that's why the assessment tool is being rolled out we're just in the beginning stages of that is that most sword, but I think we have heard from. staff as they're implementing that that a little bit more guidance will be helpful, but so I know that amy is working with Gare that government alliance for race and equity i'm thinking through what that is. and hopefully that tool, you know i've now been in three cities who've used the racial equity tool and and promoted by gear, as we move forward. The point of the tool really is is to do is to be a disrupter, if you will, is to really stop. and say who's benefiting from the section and who is not benefiting and who was actually being harmed by, that is, we think through it. And it really grounds itself and data, and I think that's one of the first things that we, as a city have to do what I have discovered is that our systems don't really.
[24:07] dis aggregate data, and we really got to get there for good and make some hard decisions that are grounded in that, as we move forward. But I take your point and I think that we are working as we move forward on that, and then the other thing that's kind of tied to this racial equity question but it's also about your urgency i'll say that. A there are a lot of cities that use different modalities right to move work forward, and so I don't suggest that this is the only one, by any means, but. You know the benefit of coming from other cities is that perhaps I have seen some things that that have worked in other places, may not work here, but one of the things we did in minneapolis actually was to. collapse, some of our plans, particularly our strategic plan and that Council approved and our racial equity plan so they were one in the same. And then we embarked with a facilitator on metrics of urgency to do kind of what i'm hearing you Ryan, an underlying the question which is.
[25:04] What are the few things that if we did would actually get us further and the metrics of urgency conversation call it whatever you may call it to me is really a hard look at prioritization. and your biggest win, what is the biggest bang for the buck that really gets us further and putting our work through that lens or something like that lens. might be really beneficial, because the reality is we can't do all things. And if we do a little bit of everything that people want us to do, then our change is going to be even more incremental than we would like. So prioritization though requires a lot of discipline, it means saying no to some things because we're really going to focus on a B or C. And that's a discipline that will have to get through, as we move forward, but to me I haven't seen yet a better approach to. Really scalpel like target focusing work to move it forward so i'll be curious as we in the city now i've been talking to folks in our and CMO.
[26:02] In other departments, if we take a look at the strategic planning process in general. One of the questions i'll be asking, precisely, is how do we actually prioritize and then, how do we hold ourselves accountable and measure it, because if you can't measure it then it also to me doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, with that I would prefer to move on, I don't see anything burning from hutch or Alex. What you're leaning forward every. question, but I can I can I can. slip it or I can just keep it super short. Welcome noria is fantastic to have you here all my questions last comment is around we have Council now. Making a lot of pretty detailed and pretty nuance decisions and their their primary information comes from some combination of of the various advisory boards and staff were staff frankly does most of the heavy lifting.
[27:08] But knowing a decent number of the Council members, and I think many members of our board do. it's amazing how they're sort of balanced on the on the one hand, on the other hand, and if you talk to them in frank terms, quite often it's like some. Some nuance of some information that sort of tilted them one way or the other, and there's many ingredients and what we do here and transportation are pretty darn fast moving stuff. And one of my personal worries is getting us really up to date. When we're trying to make calls about things like aspects of micro mobility or other things are technology enabled there are other things where like a lot of the climate stuff, which is actually turning along in various places. So, so my comment. question is, you know how do we, how do we help staff to do the heavy lifting and Have we really sort of drag that stuff into the light, some of us are professionally involved enough so with that we try a bit.
[28:10] three of us that are you know have careers related to this area, but even so you're relying on one person's professional you know, knowledge, so I. I should stop reacting here and say i've been concerned about timeliness I literally had a conversation in my backyard, two days ago with a city council Member who said. that she or he made a decision about something based on some information which, by the time he or she got it was like two or three years out of date but that's what they got and it's like really. yeah I appreciate that and I think i'll will continue to have conversations about it again, as I talked to other boards and commissions because you're not the only person who said that, how do we quickly get up to speed. But then I also want to think a little bit more thoroughly on how do we leverage this collective expertise even more right like sometimes for big projects we we employ a device like a task force.
[29:08] Where we really get some additional expertise from folks depending on how often you meet on how. Information gets forwarded and, frankly, some of the rules right nothing kills conversation more like robert's rules, sometimes. to figure out how do we get some of that inside I don't have the answer to it now, but i'll say that it has come up enough to think about. How do we leverage amazing professionals that are in community with all also say amazing professionals that work for the city of boulder. In moving forward some of that conversation and there could be other strategies that we talked about but happy to you know connect at some point, and continue to pull that thread. Thank you. And if it's okay with you till i'm going to stay around a little bit in here a little easier.
[30:02] conversation, but when I knock out, please, no, it has been a pleasure and then i'm going to another meeting, so it is not at all desire to leave because I actually think you're gonna have a really good conversation today. Well it's nice to have you read the Minutes to so. Pretty appreciate you making time to come with us to come be with us this evening Thank you so much. Alright, we will move on now to the next item of the agenda, normally, we would go to public comment this evening. When we were setting the agenda and revising it recently we decided collectively to move this next item, because of its urgent importance. To the Community and we expected to hear some comment from the Community in the public comment, we are going to move to a number of recent fatalities and injuries on boulder roads and boulder just outside of city limits and within city limits it's been a horrible month.
[31:00] And I would like to turn it over to Erica and and brand for this portion we are joined by believe by sergeant Angeles from this city. Police department and sergeant. list is that what it was up to the sky and sergeant liska I believe is with. The State police my getting this correct. Yes, thank you. um, so I will take the cue from you then Tila and on. And I just wanted to share with you the board, I guess, a couple of things, by way of preface so whenever I am natalie we're speaking with in our charity ilan. Alex about this particular item at that point we were contextually talking about two bicycle fatalities that occurred in our Community. Well, one within the city in and one immediately outside of our boundaries, but then that very self same weekend.
[32:05] We had additional fatalities and severe injuries and I just wanted to let all of you know as tough board members, but the staff were very concerned about these crashes. And the severe crashes, and that we are working with our PD counterparts to really monitor and look for trends and potential mitigation. We recognize, on one hand, that severe crashes are sometimes are often very random in nature and occurred for reaching for reasons that aren't necessarily. Based on our ability to do engineering or educate or take other actions in the specific time but, and also to recognize that, even though there's been a recent uptick over the past month about. It with regard to having additional fatalities and serious injuries they're still down in 2021 state when compared to a pre cope with period.
[33:08] That having been said, that's not an excuse, because Vision Zero has a very important word in it and it's zero and so with that, I just wanted. to let all of you know that we have staff recognize that and that we have invited our colleagues in enforcement. Both here at the city and at the state that are in the process of investigating these various crashes. so that you can have a better understanding, we can have a better understanding and that we can move forward so with that I will turn it over to rob evangelist for so that she can share with you the latest information that she has, thank you very much. Thank you Erica Thank you tab for inviting me again it's always good to have this meeting and get together, unfortunately, I think this year is.
[34:01] the depth of information that about shares definitely more than we've had in the in the previous years, I did want to ask sergeant liska if he wanted to go first he's only got one to share and then, if he had another appointment to get to he could he could share his and move on. Scott. Well, hearing none, then I will go ahead and go forward i'm going to just go in chronological order of the crashes that have occurred on our city streets recently i'm going to give me just a minute to share my screen. See how that works. So let's start with the crash that occurred on.
[35:01] May 20 South boulder road and Manhattan. And if you'll recall, this is the fatal bike crash that happened there. Make sure we can see that. screen that i'm sharing the PowerPoint presentation, yes okay all right, so this this crash occurred at three o'clock in the afternoon on may 20. Robin I I don't I only see your your windows folder not the PowerPoint. Okay, and I think if you're able to drag your PowerPoint over to the screen where your windows folder is that might work. Okay. Does that look. Better. worse. No i'm not seeing it. When you share your screen.
[36:01] It provides the option to share and once. yeah So if you share your screen and click on the on the piece that shows your PowerPoint. That. Yes, perfect okay. Well there's going to need you to walk me through just a little bit. Okay, so again may 20 three o'clock in the afternoon bright sunny day so that you're aware of the weather conditions. Are, this is the intersection that we're talking about this is South folder road in Manhattan South older runs east, west Manhattan. runs north, south, this is the pdq right here if you're familiar with that intersection. So the Nissan altima is 2005 Sedan it's being driven by a 20 year old female driver she's.
[37:03] Transporting her female 15 year old female passenger who's actually or sister they're both seat belted and they're on their way to a dentist appointment. they're driving in the number one lane, which is the left hand lane, and there was no indication or evidence of chemical impairment or use of electronic devices at the time of the crash. The bicyclist is writing a cruiser style bike with the front basket he's a 60 year old male writer, and he is not wearing a helmet. The bike bicycle is left northbound on Manhattan circle, he was coming from the pdq parking lot he had purchase purchase some alcohol and other beverages there. At the time of crash, it was unknown if he had any impairment, however toxicology reports that he was not under the influence at the time of the crash. So as i'm in the nissan's traveling eastbound in that first lane the cycle cross sell folder road after failing to stop at the STOP sign and was struck by the Nice on.
[38:08] The bicycle is traveling in the roadway he's required to follow all traffic laws include stopping at that stop sign, so in this case the Nissan had the right of way. collision cause the cyclist to be propelled up onto the hood of the ultimate and that he landed on the windshield. From there he became airborne from the vehicle he landed partially on the median partially in the westbound lane he stuck his head on the median he sustains serious head trauma, he was transported the hospital work he was pronounced deceased. This is a rendition, that the reconstruction is too, so if you can see the nissan's traveling eastbound and that number one lane the bicyclist traveling northbound crosses over and is struck by the Nissan. These are aerial pictures taken by the drone. Of the scene, these are police cars here it's not part of the scene.
[39:11] So we did have video from the pdq and witnesses as well on scene, and it was determined that the cause of the crash was the bicycle failing to stop at the STOP sign. The reconstruction. gave us estimated speeds for the vehicle somewhere between 35 and 45 miles an hour the speed zone there's 35 miles an hour. The bicyclist is estimated to be writing between seven and 10 miles an hour we consulted with the district attorney in this case, and they agreed with our findings and no charges are coming. This is body cam video of the video of pdq. You can see the bicyclist leaving the pdq parking lot here.
[40:07] He enters the roadway failing to stop for that stop sign. And oncoming traffic. Are there any questions on this case. Alright, seeing none, I will continue. Sorry claire's and ventilator I thought I was speaking I did I didn't know. i'm just noting, I understand that the the bicycle failing to yield was the cause of the crash and i'm just curious about the all the the other finding that the vehicle was exceeding the speed limit. I recognize that might not have been identified as a cause of the crash, do you ever identified contributing factors, do you ever conclude that both parties, all parties are at fault.
[41:06] And why, if this person was speeding and was involved in a fatal crash Would that not be, for instance, failure to exercise, do you care. Sure that's a great question So these are estimated speeds right and so based on many things which are can be faulty right and so. proving a speeding charge in this case would be very difficult, and then the da his office is always hesitant there's also the question of when do you give up your right away, how fast, you need to be going to give up your right away. And that that question is very difficult to answer. Right abusing abusing the right away might. Change the the conclusion with that, like. And I think that's a great that's a great question at which, at which point, are you abusing it so much. That is failing to stop at the STOP sign gives him the better right away.
[42:00] mm hmm. Are you are, you only. Are you guided to only find one party at fault there's never a toss up. So, not necessarily right the district attorney can definitely make the decision that her speed was so agree aegis that it contributed to this crash in this case it, that was not determined. understood, thank you. Any other questions. We will move on, so that was again may 20. So the next crash we. are going to cover his 30th and Pearl. which ended up being a serious injury crash. But it's time it came out it definitely was questionable whether or not this person was going to live, so this crash happened at 856 in the evening on July 25.
[43:05] at the intersection of 30th unfurl. This is a Google picture of 30 and Pearl so obviously it's a little bit outdated, but this is the new Google building here on the southeast corner. This is 30th street this is Pearl street. So our driver her or. at fault driver we call to one was a 20,014 subaru for Forrester, driven by a 20 year old see you student he had a valid Florida driver's license. He had just completed a workout at crunch fist fitness he was driving northbound on 30th to turn westbound on Pearl street and had a flashing yellow light, he was driving his girlfriend's car with permission. He yielded to a southbound motorcycle that was in the Far Right lane and turned right or westbound on Pearl street he continued his turn.
[44:03] He did not see to you too until the crash to you to or the second vehicle was a moped which was actually classified as a motorcycle in the straight through lane. He he was cooperative on scene, he gave statements and voluntary blood samples. The driver of the motorcycle is a 34 year old male he had a valid Wisconsin license but he did not have a motorcycle endorsement. He just left as residents on eagle way, which is north of belmont he was heading towards magnolia road or and King supers to pick up some medical marijuana and some food at King supers he was southbound on 30th and the Left through lane, and he had the green light. This vehicle looks like a moped but it's a motorcycle it's 125 CC so it's classified as motorcycle he was not wearing a helmet.
[45:00] He sustains significant injuries, the right lower leg and multiple broken ribs. The motorcyclists attempted to avoid the accident applied the brakes, which caused the motorcycle to go down on the right side, there were visible Gouges and scrape marks on the pavement pre impact. He slid about 50 feet on what pavement before you collided, again with the right front of the subaru. The subaru came to an immediate stop after running over a motorcyclist running over the motorcyclist the motorcycle landed under the Left front corner of the subaru the Left rear tire of the subaru came to rest on the motorcycle rider. That vehicle was lifted off the back of the motorcyclist who was lying face down on the pavement by the subaru driver and other witnesses. The motorcyclist was transported to bch with serious injuries he's had major orthopedic surgery, and he still risks losing his right leg. found out today, he was at home in recovery, he was at rehab for about a week and today's at home, we do not have video of this accident investigation is complete, but we are waiting for toxicology reports before making a final charging recommendation to the district attorney.
[46:16] Wait a couple of great witnesses on this crash as well that saw the headlight of the motorcycle coming toward the intersection so the motorcycle swerve. They get estimate the motorcycle speed was at 40 to 45. So again, the diagram rendition here's the vehicle going northbound trying to make that turn the motorcycle common southbound and they come together in the intersection. scenes from the crash that night. This is what the motorcycle looks like looks like a moped but it's classified as a motorcycle.
[47:01] And then. The super damage. Questions can I answer on this one. The diagram shows the super returning from the Left most left turn lane is that is that confirmed the lane that he was leaving from i'm just. curious about sightlines there. yep that's that's correct, so the first motorcycles coming through the intersection southbound here and makes it a right on Pearl street that's where he was focused. He did not see this motorcycle that was in this lane, and you know sightlines may have played a role. Eight o'clock at night, it was a wet and dry every night. it's hard to say how bright that headlight was we won't know because it's broken. But he he claims he never saw that motorcycle coming through. Okay, thank you Jeff. Was the rain, a factor in the motorcycles cyclists ability to control his cycle.
[48:07] Well i'm sure it played a role I think many factors did fact that he wasn't motorcycle endorsed. And the rain itself and his ability to keep the motorcycle up right. yeah. Okay, no other questions we'll move on, so that was Sunday night. Monday morning Monday midday I suppose we went to a single vehicle crash at 47th and independence. This one happened to 10 in the afternoon.
[49:00] Other bright and sunny day, this is 47th street it runs north, south, this is independence again these pictures, these are Google pictures that haven't been updated still an open field, but this is. resident apartments now. And the the vehicle owner in this crash lived in these apartments so he was heading home. So the vehicle was a 2016 grey acura rdx driven by a 43 year old male driver who was wearing a seatbelt, we had no indication or evidence of chemical impairment or use of electronic device at the time of the crash. The accurate was traveling southbound on 47th street approach approximately 284 feet north of independence road in the southbound lane. It veered left crossing over the northbound lane and the bike lane collided with a guardrail on the east side of the roadway. Then, had a second impact with the same guardrail for their self.
[50:01] The accurate remained in contact with the guardrail until it reached the end of the guardrail continued southbound crossing over independence road. into the field where it collided with at least one wouldn't post and a chain link fence the accurate peer to have rolled at least once. It caught fire and then came to arrest came to rest facing up right more northbound boulder fire department name, Mr responded. extricated the driver and transported him to boulder Community health, where he was pronounced deceased the autopsy confirmed he died due to injuries sustained in the crash. We did have a witness on scene, who observed the driver before they leave the driver was suffering a medical issue before the impact. The drawing rendition there's the vehicle that's traveling southbound crossing over the northbound lanes with the two impacts, with the guardrail across independence hits this corner something causes the vehicle, the role and it uprights facing northbound.
[51:08] Any questions on that crash. Do you have an estimate of his speed. So we do that, that was in there. We believe he was traveling at or just above the speed limit. I was looking I didn't see any indication. yeah I didn't see it in there either, but my understanding is he was driving at or just above. And the toxicology report is. As it's been released. So we don't have the toxicology report yet that usually comes several weeks after the autopsy so we won't actually know if he was under the influence for several more weeks, but at this point there's no indication.
[52:00] He was coming from yoga class. Right. Then Monday night. We responded to diagnose and 34. On the double fatal which happened about 11. So here's diagonal which runs east, west 34th street is primarily and egress into a residential area. The first vehicle is a 2016 BMW 28 I was traveling westbound on the diagonal turning South on the 34th street.
[53:08] was driven by a 79 year old male driver and he was carrying two passengers 53 year old male passenger in the front seat wearing a seat belt. The 56 year old male passenger, it was the rear on the rear passenger side and he was not wearing a seatbelt, the occupants had been in longmont most of the evening at a Community Center playing table tennis and they stopped for a sandwich and a drink in longmont. The second vehicle was a black Nissan altima. This vehicle was traveling eastbound on diagonal in the second or the middle lane was driven by 20 or 21 year old male driver and he had just left work after a double shift. Those two vehicles came together and the two passengers in the BMW were pronounced deceased on seen. The driver of the BMW was seriously injured in the crash and was hospitalized he had serious injuries and will require many surgeries but he's stable, for now, and the driver of the Nissan was treated and released from the hospital, the next day.
[54:15] So our investigation is still really early on this one. But we do have, at this point we've have some drone footage with some laser mapping imaging we've got interviews with involved parties crash reconstruction forensics and toxicology is all forthcoming. We are obviously investigating if drugs and alcohol electronic device or speed may have been factors in this one. The drawing rendition and the vehicles after the crash the BMW came to rest on the southeast corner and the Nissan came dressed in this lane, it was traveling in. And there's the vehicles after the crash. So this one I don't have a whole lot of answers for you just because we're so early on in our investigation, but i'll try and answer any of that you have.
[55:07] I have a question not necessarily specifically about this crash but and just hearing your. Discussion of these crashes this evening you've mentioned several times you've gotten updates about the status of. people's recoveries from their injuries as a as a matter of course in doing the investigations for serious injury crashes. Do you typically regularly follow up with these i'm asking because it's been raised several times by Community cycles they've been concerned that we're missing. Data by not directly following up with a hospital and i'm not certain how well founded that concern is but we don't know a whole lot about what your standard practices about. Checking in on people who've gone to the hospital if they make a turn for the worst and ultimately die you generally will find that out is that not correct. yep that's a great question. So in serious crashes we follow up regularly the state of Colorado considered considers it a fatal accident if they die within 30 days they have the crash injuries, due to the crash, and so.
[56:09] You know, for that reason, and for the reason that we really truly want to know how they're doing, and if they're doing better if they're doing worse, so that we can. You know, help in any way that we can and charge appropriately, so my team does a fantastic job for the first few days checking in daily and then after that check in every week or so. Thank you that's helpful to know I am aware of data that there's often not very good follow up but it's often in very large cities where it's just they're just too many. Too many. Soldiers with with you know less. Serious crashes obviously getting the data from the hospital is going to be difficult right that's protected information and so. In all of these cases, if we're going to get any information from the hospital are the people need to sign releases to give that information over to us we're not entitled to it.
[57:02] got it Thank you. yep any other questions on this crash. Right two more crashes. That was on Monday night. and later in the week. So we just have the one more crash good ahead of myself on Wednesday, we had the 47th and independence, this is a bike versus vehicle crash. happened on Wednesday it again to 10 hours. Beautiful sunny day. i'm sorry wrong crash. You notice, I was little triangle pattern of where these crashes happened.
[58:00] I don't think is a contributing factor but interesting nonetheless. So this one happened i'm sorry 613 at night, so this is. The highway here, and this is 47th street which runs yourself. So in this crash 2000 1900 passport was being driven by a 20 year old male driver he's wearing a seatbelt. he's eastbound on diagonal and the number one lane he's delivering food for uber eats he's approaching a red traffic signal there's no indication or evidence of chemical impairment or use of his electronic device at the time of this crash. The bicyclist is a 34 year old male writer his helmet was properly Warren he is southbound on 47th street facing a green traffic signal there's no indication of impairment at the time of the crash from this writer.
[59:01] On the passports traveling eastbound on diagonal on the left, most straight through lane approaching a red traffic signal the bicyclist to southbound on 47th and the dedicated bicycle and approaching green traffic signal diagonal. Several northbound and southbound cars past safely through the intersection on the green signal before the bicyclist entered. The Honda failed stop prior to the intersection and collided with the bicyclist in the intersection. The bicyclist was rejected, from the bike and landed on his right side, including his head and was knocked unconscious he's transport, he was transported to bch he was treated treated for a brain bleed. In all over body fractures you spent three days and I see you use released on the 31st to homecare. Drawing rendition vehicles traveling eastbound bicyclists struggling southbound they come together in the intersection. We happen to have a red light camera and that intersection with which really helps with our investigation and you can see why it makes it easy for us to determine fault and this one.
[60:35] So with that, with the help of that photo red light camera was determined the Honda ran the red light, and he was issued a summons for careless driving causing serious injury and we were able to charge the vulnerable. User enhancer on this one, you can see that we estimated his speed between 35 and 40 miles an hour speed zone of 40 miles an hour he had a we had a witness that was driving with him prior to the red light, we said he was under the speed limit.
[61:05] The bicycle speed was approximately 30 mile an hour and the speed zone at 3040 miles an hour. And so obviously he was not speeding and this crash. Pictures of the Honda pictures of the bicycle. This is just approaching the intersection there is some discussion about being two lights at this intersection not entirely sure whether or not, that was a factor, the driver didn't say as much this is eastbound on the West side approaching. And you can see, as you continue to approach you get under that. overpass and then there's a second light, and this is the light that he ran there. Any questions on that final crash. I ever coupled. In this case. When you say there is no evidence of the driver using electronic device, he was an uber each driver making a delivery yes.
[62:09] that's correct. In making a delivery, I mean typically the uber drivers have their GPS up on their dash kind of in front of them, and it is a point of focus did. Is there any way i'm not sure I wonder how you reach a conclusion that he wasn't that the electronic device was not a factor. So the only thing we can go off is the evidence we have and what we did have is the photo red light camera. picture prior to the elevation and he was looking straight ahead okay. um the other question I have is with that actually excellent footage from the. The intersection camera can you does the intersection camera have high enough resolution or frames per second for you to calculate speed simply by the video rather than by skid marks.
[63:22] So the camera itself gives us speed. Oh going when they're going through the intersection, but you can see back here the officer, maybe it's up here. The officer, was able to utilize the video to help with his. With his math skills there. Okay, that was for the cyclist. Correct yeah, but we can do the same for the vehicle. Okay, but again, again, those are going to be estimates. great job. Obviously the cameras is not the same as real life, I okay.
[64:01] Thank you. Any other questions. Okay, so i'm going to turn it over to sergeant liska so he can tell you about his crash, I will stick around for a little bit. To see if there's any other questions and if transportation has any questions for me I won't be able to stay for the whole meeting, though, but again I just appreciate you guys. asking me to be here. And thank you very much for coming and for doing this hard work, I do want to know you know what we can know as soon as we can know it, and I do know that you. cooperate quite a lot on the safe streets report as well, that you know comes out it's your regular presence at the Vision Zero partnership meeting, so I just wanted to acknowledge, I know that this is difficult work you're remarkably calm. But I appreciate you coming in and updating us tonight, thank you. happy to be here. sergeant liska welcome, thank you for joining us as well.
[65:03] Thank you, can you hear me at all or yep we can hear you okay. Probably earlier, I was trying to unmute the wrong device on, is it possible share my screen at all. It should be. Yes. Let me close. yeah you got it. yeah it looks like you, let me make sure your co hosts Okay, you should be Now let me know if that works. Great. Can you see that, yes, we do. um so the crash recovered. game is called covers his bicycle fatal crash or case report number one. trooper kyle mcduffie with our vehicle or crimes in it is the lead investigator in this one.
[66:02] So this crash to vehicle crash or, as I call an SUV it's more of like a it was like a Volvo station wagon versus the bicycle and occurred on Thursday July 15 at about 6:14pm. locations at V hill road or i'm sorry the wheel drive at wagon wheel gap road in boulder county. Can vehicle once a bolo xc 70 I was traveling westbound and Lee hill road. The bicycle was eastbound on the hill road So if you can picture it the mobile is going up uphill upgrade and the bicycle is coming downhill. Vehicle one the driver attempted to make a left turn on to wagon wheel gap road in front of vehicle to or front of the bicycle and basically hit head on. The bicycle hit the front end of the vehicle, the Volvo and then the wider was rejected traveled into the windshield and who's pronounced dead, on seeing.
[67:02] The bicycle slows we're in a bicycle helmet. here's kind of a Google earth image of the roadway again, you see the with the bicycles coming downhill, the vehicles coming up hill wanted to make a left turn on to wagon wheel gap. See the yellow line in here base that's approximately 30 tariffs are 300 feet so it's one of those kind of assumption, we can make as far as at the bike is traveling at about 2525 miles an hour. It takes about 8.2 seconds for the bike to cover a distance so we're looking at how much visibility, does the the the driver have. it's another Google earth image looking. From the perspective of the driver the Volvo looking up getting ready to make the Left turn onto wagon wheel gap, and you can see a little bit of some of the shading like from the trees barely see the vehicle with this headlights on.
[68:11] And this is actually taken on the day of, so this is a couple hours after the actual crash during the middle of the investigation yellow circle indicates proximity area of impact the area where the the ball will hit the bicyclist. And this is a picture of the actual vehicle on see the damage to the hood damage to the windshield. So those crashes still on investigation. It looks like After talking to the investigator actually one of the co investigator they're saying that there are there are chair charges that will be pending against the driver. Based they need to finish up the investigation first before following the charges and then everything will be presented to the DHS first.
[69:00] What things that they're looking at is speed of the bicyclist the visibility, the bicyclists. Just use that. So that way, we have a thorough investigation, we can present to the da. interviews from the driver look at all the evidence we're going to analyze both the vehicle in the bicycle for defects possible failures any damage. it's not known if the bike had any kind of a light on it, which made a maybe a little more visible, but in this case, most likely it's not really a factor, since the car made a left turn in front of a bicyclist just a little bit of additional information. The driver of the vehicle don't mail 68 years old, and then the bicyclists was adult male 39 years old. Other any questions on this. I have one that is did the. driver of the Volvo I right through that intersection.
[70:05] Practically daily certainly weekly on my bike. And did the driver. May was were they in continuous motion, making the left hand turn or did they stop. And then. then proceed with their turn. To be honestly I don't know I don't have an answer that one I was trying to get Ahold of mesquita prior to this and I wasn't able to contact him at all. So the answer I don't know, if anything, easy to make an either my understanding from. The initial report was that to sort of make a left turn saw the by coming at them and I think he I believe he stopped. Right and path or slowly, at least as far as an exact speed on him, I do not know. Thank you.
[71:07] Anything else. Do you have any idea when. The investigation will be completed. um I don't know I don't have an answer for that one. investigator usually for these these take on chargeable they'd like to get them done within two months before really presents to the DEA the D wants to have all the toxic got toxicology from the coroner's office. They want the final the final autopsy report from the corner chorus office and usually for us, I will take about two months that way when presented they have all the facts. And then your description of how long it would take a cyclist traveling at 25 miles an hour is that suggesting that the speed limit there is 25 miles an hour. it's just like it's bikes coming downhill estimated speed. Oh, I think it is 25 miles an hour and then mostly every bite that we get our action, say that it's it's an approximate speed based on people coming downhill from the hill.
[72:08] Okay. it's just give somebody a perspective of it this bike is doing 2525 miles an hour it'll take them about eight seconds to cover that distance okay. What is the speed limit there. I think it is 25 i'm not positive though i'm not positive either. Thank you. Any other questions tab anyone. Well surgeon liska surgeon evangelists Thank you again for. coming here and joining us touch you have unmuted you have a question. yeah I guess I i've had numerous conversations with local bicyclists all of all of us, right up in that area and. almost without exception, they tell me they go really fast down that hill. and almost without exception, they said they're not going to do that anymore.
[73:01] So for what that's. worth. till you're muted. Thank you. And Ryan, are you trying to unmute are you trying to chime in here. Alright, switching phones I did have something at the end of the of the individual items I wasn't sure if we're there yet, are we there is this a synthesis good morning for synthesis. Yes, thank you. Okay, great um so I guess two things one I appreciate the officers being here doing this, I think that it's important relatively new tab but it it feels to me that it's really important that we have.
[74:03] We have a good sense of each of each fatality case both what is the understood cause are contributing causes and then also what is the, what are the policy implications if any. And I I got to thinking hearing some of the discussion that there's a question with these one of these cases of is there a charging recommendation. I sort of i'm sort of searching also for is their policy recommendation meet with individual ones or across the group or group, you know I just looking at multiple and I, on the. First case we talked about the may 20 one you know there's this till you raise the question well Okay, so the driver was likely speeding that may not. be something that meets a legal threshold or an enforcement threshold of charging. But it's certainly raises my my radar that if if we if we think probably the driver was speeding.
[75:02] Is there anything from a policy standpoint like or other drivers speeding there and Is there something to do about it that's, just as I mean specific example, but. I guess, I would just say like maybe this is, for this is for staff for for transportation staff are there any I guess policy implications on either any individual cases we've talked about or looking across the set. So let me try this. I think that. In terms of all these different crashes they're obviously as we just heard tonight they're in different stages of investigation and sort of causality and so forth. I think that as tab numbers on how so a staff talks about you know Vision Zero Horton etc, and the subsequent items. This evening I think that will give you more of a sense of sort of database approaches, and so we know where there are. Potential clusters and also available and staff will also talk about how we use the data to be able to identify where there are key issue areas across the Community and make recommendations.
[76:13] about investments, and I think that will be able to have a more robust conversation in that context and it's still a little bit too early, looking at as we just heard. about the status of the investigations, you know this evening a little bit too early to say that there's one or even two singular points of causality and we should lean in on. That Thank you. Alex. Sure first i'd like to think. surgeons to ska and banner least for joining us tonight you're I didn't have any questions for you, because your presentations are rather thorough and answered a lot of the curiosity, so I had coming into tonight.
[77:05] Getting a strong understanding of what happened really helps us as we're moving forward with planning and projects and also helps us, so I go lot of questions from Community members in the aftermath of. high profile crashes like this, so your guarantee brought for tonight is is very helpful to Eric has point there's no rush on any sorts of policy or. Projects changes that could help prevent these crashes in these specific locations or types of crashes, but, if at all possible, I think, bringing forward some potential solutions would be helpful and if not, are evident immediately and the. investigation needs to run its course I would certainly be open to revisiting. Any of these specific crashes or others if there are actionable items that staff tab or we could even encourage Council to become involved with.
[78:10] And I think the maybe the word of the night early on, was was urgency, this is a pretty horrendous month we've had a bit of an indictment on our system today the. 30th in Pearl location as a place where we've conducted a corridor study and I don't see much in the way of promises that that can that can solve anything upon implementation, the diagonal is something that we've. studied in depth and and spent the millions of dollars necessary and infrastructure improvements and saw multiple crashes along there. And out on 47th near independence that's one of the few places that much needed affordable housing hasn't been blocked and bolder and where some. of our lower income residents reside in an area without bike lanes that are less stress, or even a complete sidewalk network, so if this small.
[79:11] amount of time that led to us a lot of crashes in a fairly small footprint all these are most of these are within a half mile or so of each other, thank really underscores that urgency with which we need to act. Thanks Alex. anyone else mark. I have some other comments or i'm saving them for the Vision Zero. Discussion okay yeah that was also a reason for having this item now, and you know here is, it was very awkward to start talking about your visions your action plan you've had a month like this leading up to it. I know that we are continuing to think about these things and analyze them there's a lot of work on the safe streets report that that is yet to be done and i'm hopeful that we will.
[80:05] learn what we can I find, as a lawyer, working on this stuff and having been working on it and you know the intersection between lot urban planning and advocacy for 20 years now. I find a lot of fault and how the law is written and applied to particular circumstances, you know the speed limit is a suggestion. there's a frustrating thing called the rule of two you can you have to be doing at least two things culpable to really be charged, these days, because one level of culpability normally speeding is just forgiven. And where we successfully had City Council change, you know the baseline speed limit on a residential streets to 20 miles an hour. The hope was that that would help it help set the temperature and the expectations for what we see on the roadway and hopefully what we enforce on the roadway. To make it more serious and make people who are contributing to the severity of the crime, if not the cause of the crime of the crash.
[81:07] internalize that a bit and we're not getting there and it's not a city of boulder problem it's not a Colorado problem it's a it's a national crisis and it kills 40,000 people a year and i'm sorry that some of them are boulder residence. But. We shoulder on. I would definitely like to see in the next day streets gold report some more like robust consideration of particular. causes trends trend lines that we're seeing on these that you know as we collect data that will only become clearer, but at some point I don't want to just be studying this stuff I want to be taking more. Action on different levels, and that is not it's not a feasible thing to ask a transportation department of any municipality to shoulder alone, it means partnerships with.
[82:00] Law enforcement with district attorneys with prosecuting attorneys with the city leadership let's say this is not an acceptable way to drive in our Community, so I think the only thing that jumped out at me from the. The in city crashes, at least, was that 1234 out of seven drivers were 20 or 21 years old, so you know there's some element of perhaps inexperience maybe our failure to set expectations to drive more cautiously I don't know but. The use of some of these drivers to have been involved at such a young age with horrific traffic crashes. Is concerning. Well, we are going to leave it there for now. And I think this is a fine time to move to public comment I don't see too many members of the public on here, as usual, we will have three minutes for members of the public who wish to speak to tab about transportation matters to to chime in you have a hand raise raise hand.
[83:09] function and if that's not working, you can tell me that's not working in the chat. But if any member of the public would like to address tab this is your chance. All right to I have Stephen. adele up first so Stephen i'm going to ask you to unmute. And, in place of my title you'll see the three minute timer so that you know when your time is getting close. And you should be able to unmute Stephen. There we go sorry I did this on my phone. Well, first, I was going to give a thank you to transportation staff we got an affected crosswalk it 17th and groove.
[84:01] This is one where we've been fighting for for over a decade. You need me, for I moved into the neighborhood. So. We had asked for a crosswalk on the North side. 17th has grove crosses it had been denied. Because there was enough volume there was one on the South side and then all of a sudden, just two weeks ago got installed so big thank you, I don't know what prompted to change. But it's great just feel walk there and have a crosswalk. that's designated. And it sort of leads into the death of a. baseline. With a cyclist was in an intersection with cross ramps. And just going home after go in the store, you know you wonder if that that intersection if people have asked for a crosswalk there that'd be nice evaluating the report.
[85:03] And if they have why it's been denied. And if they haven't hopefully there's sort of emergency evacuation of that crossing. So another. crashes and happen when somebody else gets killed. We have another crosswalk on grove crossing folsom and right by the French CAFE. There, and I was walking back yesterday, and there was a lady walking with the toddler across the crosswalk and it's an unmarked crosswalk we've asked for it to be marked but it doesn't meet the evaluation criteria. Luckily, all the cars are nice and stocks. But it's one of those you know, we need to with all these deaths and serious injuries need to reevaluate, especially the flashing yellow arrows. it's hard to believe the Vision Zero action plan that is one of the action plans is flashing yellow arrows.
[86:05] pearland 30th has protected left turn lanes until until 7pm. Then, that it turns of flashing yellow arrow so this. motorcyclists life was changed all because. we're trying to keep up our level of service at an intersection that's only reason we ever change from project to level two flashing yellow arrow is to maintain the vehicle level of service at intersections. i've been in close calls along broadway on the bike path after peak hours when it productive less confessional arose. This shouldn't be part of our visions your plan it's pathetic Thank you. Thank you, Stephen. And I don't see any other hands up to you, what do you see any. No, I don't see any either.
[87:02] Oh nevermind okay there's court curtain or back Kurt. Kurt i'm going to ask you to unmute right now, and let me restart that. Okay, thank you for catching me i'm sorry to that I raised my hand at the last minute, and thank you particularly to the police and staple. staff who were doing the investigation of these crashes i'm sure it's very, very difficult work and i'm definitely appreciative of their service to us in doing this. On this I will I will certainly observed the obvious, which is that. Most of these occur on our materials. which we all know, are most dangerous roadways and but, but ones that we have not taken serious steps to improve the safety on frankly and every single one of these, I would say, with the possible exception of the the single vehicle crash on 47.
[88:10] Speed was a was a contributing factor there's no there's no denying that. What we want to talk about it or not, if the all of the vehicles bikes the motor vehicles we're all traveling say no more than 20 miles per hour. Probably all of these people would be still alive, and so I think we just need to be honest about that we can make a decision, a policy decision that people's lives are not worth. people's time, but if that's our policy decision, we should be clear about it, we should not beat around the bush, we should say we're sacrificing people's lives and and people's. Long term health in order to save the time of drivers and and I just really think we should be put that out there and be honest about it so that there's no ambiguity, so thank you.
[89:16] Thank you curt. Thank you. And they don't see any more hands. up and neither do I. Okay, great thanks as always remembers the public. coming in speaking your mind we do listen we're Moving on now to Item six stuff briefing and tab feedback on the plan project nears. Devon jocelyn. Good evening. hi let you go ahead. Thank you.
[90:08] Can everyone see my screen. not yet. Sorry. sure. All right, looks like it's kicking off there we know we're good to go. Okay. Sorry for that little hiccup or good evening everyone, my name is Devon jocelyn i'm the principal traffic engineer for the city. And i'm pleased to be here tonight to provide some highlights of work related to visions euro during the second quarter of 21. Through this presentation, I hope to expound upon and bring life to some of the key items that were noted in the memo submitted to tab in advance of this presentation.
[91:01] it's important to note that a few things within the presentation occurred since the last tab meeting and are included in order to keep tab in the loop on projects with the latest information. Just for reference the the photo on the title slide here is of the speed kidney that was installed on cherry avenue between ninth and eighth streets and this drone photo gives a good sense of the shape of the speed kidney and the horizontal deflection it provides. i'm going to focus on six items tonight, the first thing is to just recap for tab the items that were brought to tab and quarter to relative to visions euro. Next, one to provide an update on visions your innovation program and the progress on completing group one and group two projects i'm also going to provide a summary of the feedback that we received during our to neighborhood forums last month.
[92:07] relative to the Vision Zero pavement management program i'll provide tab with an update on the progress and plans for folsom street and baseline road. For Item number four there the additional key updates relative to the four e's i'll provide updates relative to engineering enforcement education. and evaluation and within this presentation I plan to provide an update on the safe streets folder report and the progress we're making to update that. Item number five has to do with. highlighting some continued impacts, the code is have on the work plan and budget budget process and then six is to just give a heads up to tab about upcoming items that will be coming your way for the remainder of the year.
[93:00] So in quarter two there were a few key things that were brought to tab in April May and June, the actions that tab took. were related to the SMP so in April, you recall tablet prove the project prioritization methodology for the simple and complex projects basically prioritizing projects by the ranking one through six for simple projects. and choosing to focus on the top rank complex project for next year, which is baseline road. In May. tab decided to move forward with constructing the six simple projects in 2021 and planning one complex project in which will be baseline road. So for the visa update you recall that we've broken these projects into two groups group one was largely focused on last year, and many of the projects were completed last year, although there were a couple that.
[94:05] bled into the second quarter of this year, but i'm happy to say that now all of the group one installations are fully complete. We do still have art to be installed in the Gospel neighborhood at the curve extensions installed at 17th and 18th street and we continue to gather feedback through an online feedback form for the one projects. With respect to group to we had our to neighborhood forums last month and we're continuing to revoke receive and review feedback about our proposed designs. Taking that feedback into consideration we're looking toward finalizing the designs this month and we've placed an order for the materials that will need to get started implementing those group two projects later this month or in early September. I want to highlight briefly just recall, many of you probably already seen these on the ground, either through driving or riding or walking around town.
[95:09] But I just want to again highlight the nature of these visions hero innovation projects and kind of the quick build lower cost nature of them. relative to the second quarter update the treatments at 2016 spruce and 2013 Canyon or completed in a second order. And the speed kidney and hardened centerline at baseline and mohawk or completed last month as as I scroll through these photos just keep in mind that the treatments at 2016 spruce. Along grove street 2013 Canyon the treatments along aurora avenue and grinnell avenue, are the most like what you can expect to see for the majority of the proposed group two treatments that will be looking to implement here in the next few months.
[96:00] So this is again just a representation of the projects that have already been completed sampling of the curve extensions along grove as well as the enhancements at 23rd and Canyon. The curve extensions at aurora will be building upon those as part of the expanded segment where we're looking to. install a more treatments as a means of calling traffic along aurora and aurora was the first for that we did. through coordination with boulder valley school district, but we are excited to have some additional treatments there and another. Crossing enhancement planned at aurora and Evans drive and that will be an interim measure for just about a year, until we get the permanency mpi project installed next year at aurora and Evans. photo number 10 there highlights the heart and Center line that was installed last month baseline mohawk and the heart and Center line I helps guide the.
[97:06] terrain vehicles and encourages slower turning speeds, it also improves the visibility of the turning motorist and allows them to see a little bit better beyond their a pillar and look for pedestrians that may be crossing same time they're looking to complete their turn. So, with respect to group one feedback, not a lot has changed since the last time we spoke with you. we've received a total of 39 responses, the most recent of which we received on July 14 so just after last month's tab meeting and again, none of the feedback has really changed so 50% of people feel that the group one. Projects have improved their comfort in some way. percent responded and said the treatments really caused no change in their comfort 15% felt it worse than their comfort.
[98:02] And we have not gotten feedback yet on the speed kidney or the heart and Center line relative to the speed kidney we were evaluating the height of the speed kidney. We do believe that it may not have been built to the proper specification and we're working with are paving contractor to get that double checked and remedied. heart and Sarah and we do intend to put out the feedback science soon to begin collecting feedback on that. relative to the group to neighborhood forms that were held last month those forums are available and posted online on the city website and the the new link is posted there for people that are interested, and maybe having a bit of a hard time navigating the new website. On July 21 we had 21 Community Members join us on July 29 we had 13 Community Members join us and we've received a number about 14 comment forms received following the meeting.
[99:09] And a number of emails as well, most of the feedback we've received has been related to the darley avenue corridor and the proposed designs there. The darley comment forums, we receive 10 common forms eight people were opposed to the project two people were in favor of the project and we receive many of the emails that we receive were from darley avenue residents of voicing concerns over the proposed designs. So we are working with the residents along darley avenue. To respond to their concerns and inform them of our approach for moving forward and being responsive to the their concerns.
[100:00] i'll highlight our approach to to that later in my presentation, but just to give you a sense of the main concerns that they had with our proposed designs. The concerns were focused on the removal of on street parking creating a shared lane condition for cars and bikes as well as some concerns about snow removal. There also seem to be some confusion along darley avenue between the difference of visa interim treatments and the SNP petition process and the ultimate permanent traffic calming project that they would receive. So we've been working with the residents to clarify that process and the difference between the two. There are some people along darlene that feel speed cushions are really the only acceptable treatment. And some of them are asking to have their names removed from the SMP petition that was completed a few years ago.
[101:04] Unless they can have some certainty that speed cushions would be the the treatment installed and again we've been working with those residents individually to respond to and address those concerns. Some other folks were very appreciative of the projects and we're thankful for the quick bill low cost projects that could be installed sooner rather than later. There were some concerns expressed about the delineate or posts being knocked over and either the treatment losing effectiveness or just not really looking as Nice and there were questions about how responsive city staff would be to making those repairs, if possible, and knock down. On glenwood and HALO the the feedback has generally been positive and focusing to be excited about the proposed treatments. We had a few comments along the aurora avenue corridor that were asking about the cost of the treatments, as well as a few more details of the designs, I think, on our one of our design exhibits we had.
[102:15] An error. In our design at Evans, and it appears as though we were going to be narrowing Evans to a wide road, which is not the case Evans will remain a two way traffic. intersecting aurora so we clarified that with the person who asked that question. And again we're looking to. provide a revised set of designs for the residents along darlene need to consider and again react to and provide feedback on and we'll be doing that throughout this month. So relative to some of the other grip two projects that aren't focusing on traffic calming or the s&p core doors there was designed for a curb extension proposed at the intersection of 20th and growth.
[103:10] And that was presented at the Gospel neighborhood association meeting on July 20 and feedback was generally positive so we're planning to move forward with that. We are also proposing a few crossing enhancements along spine road near chaparral court, and we did not receive any feedback negative or positive relative to that threw out this feedback process so we're planning to move forward with those as well. Regarding the treatment plan at 10th and university. Staff took a closer look at that treatment and decided to revise the design a bit in order to retain more on street parking we're also planning to mark that intersection with marked crosswalks at all four legs of the intersection not just the east and west legs crossing university.
[104:05] And those crossings are warranted in accordance with our pedestrian crossing treatment installation guidelines. just wanted to highlight as well that ninth and balsam and ninth and cedar have been prepped and their plan to get artistic crosswalks later this year staffs in the process of coordinating with the artists refined designs and develop a schedule for completing that art. When I say that the the intersection has been prepped this photo indicates what that means, basically, the the parallel bars has been put down creating the canvas on which the art can be placed in between the crosswalk. There are a few other crossing treatments at ninth and cascade and folsom and Hawthorne street which we have been looking at designs for those designs are advancing.
[105:04] Ninth and cascade we have a design for some curve extensions using paint and delineate or posts and that one will likely be done. sooner than later, since the curve ramps at that intersection are already upgraded but folsom street and Hawthorne, we need to make a few curb ramp upgrades before marketing and signing with crosswalk and installing the. paint and post curve extensions. This is an update these photos are hot off the press, they happened this weekend. The intersection of 19th and avocado and 19th in Yarmouth the Community came out in full force and helps complete the art these intersections this past weekend. And the finished designs, as you can see, are quite vibrant and colorful and I think the Community was very supportive and really the project got done quicker than anyone expected because of the strong Community support.
[106:11] 19th in Yarmouth I guess officially marks, our first group to project that we can check off the list 19th and avocado was separate from divisions here innovation Program. It was funded through a can do Colorado grant but one of the goals of that brand was to really bring the Community together during coded and. We feel we achieve that goal, based on the way people came out to help. Devon, those are beautiful i'm glad you included that slide I just want to make sure I know we handed you the baton about 20 minutes late, but I just want to make sure we'll have time to get through your presentation and that getting feedback in so okay. Thank you. A little bit probably about five more. minutes. Thanks. The group to timeline is shown here.
[107:03] Again we we plan to begin an implementation later this month and early September expect that that implementation may may drag all the way into November, but as we install treatments, we will plan to evaluate them. So for darling we have a little bit different approach again to be sensitive and respond to that feedback that we got from. So we are planning to revise the design and receive feedback on the revised design from the Community this month and then in September will decide whether or not to proceed, I think one of the options is to do nothing and and leave the option of the SNP more permanent table. It may be that we also reach a common ground with the revised designs. So relative to the vm visions or a pavement management program you'll recall that we we came to you with plans for folsom street and baseline road folsom was milled last week, the milling is complete.
[108:15] And they're planning to begin paving operations, this week we expect that it will take about a week to complete the. But I want to provide again just a more detailed update on the design and staffs thinking for how fulsome will evolve from the inner condition to the ultimate condition. So the inner inner cross section and show here, this is after painting, but before the new curve basically it's returning to the existing condition and minus striping in the buffer. And the reason we're not including the buffer hatching for the interim condition is because it will would look out of place once the curve is ultimately installed within the buffer area.
[109:02] The ultimate cross section is shown here same dimensions for describing as the interim condition, but there will be a six inch hot curb. placed between the bike lane and the traveling within the buffer area and we're planning to put flexible linear posts on the curb at 40 foot intervals. And we'll do three closely spaced delineate as you approach the perch depart each intersection Russell planning degree in conflict markings and enhanced signing the green conflict markings will be placed across public streets and in the transition areas along the corridor. The curve, that we are choosing to go with will look very much like the example shown here from four columns along West mulberry street. This curve has a similar profile to it as the one we're planning to use.
[110:01] Of note here the gaps in the curve, we may not end up with gaps in quite the same areas, as shown here the gaps in our curve will be determined by the drainage analysis. Again, just to reiterate the timeline here we're expecting it to one week to complete the painting that interim cross section will be installed after the paving the thing to note here is that the concrete work timeline is still to be determined. we've reached out to our local concrete contractors and we're trying to get a better sense of when they can install. baseline road, there is not a lot new to update here the milling is not planning to start until at least after see you move in which is kind of next week, the through. These next items just highlight the changes really mentioned before he's I wanted to give you some visuals here of what it means when we refer to traffic signal changes so these highlight primarily flashing yellow arrow indications that were installed.
[111:11] At some intersections recently and recall it a flashing yellow arrow for Section indication can run both the arrow as well as protected only a lectern facing so it does provide that flexibility. To change it arapahoe and folsom before and after. As well as it broadway in arapahoe. Other things relative to engineering are the DCS update work is underway on that. we've also been refining designs for the Community mobility planning and implicate implementation crossings at 15th and iris Colorado used to 33rd and aurora and Evans and we're planning to discuss both of those items with you next month. The Green streets we're looking at some ongoing Community engagement and planning to come to tab with that in November.
[112:07] With enforcement, not a lot of updates here as well, no new red light cameras are planned to be installed this year and the summary report of photo red light enforcement available in early 22 really 2022. So relative to education, just wanted to highlight a few things that have occurred here. Trying to remain as active as we can, the the bottom item there is probably the thing most of note in response to the recent crashes, they want to look at launching a traffic seat safety campaign this month. we're in the process of determining the messaging and distribution channels for that. The same streets bowler report the update is underway, the planning to complete the crash analysis and mapping.
[113:01] Within the next two months prepare the draft report after that and planning to come to tab in October and possible November to receive feedback on the update. The deadline is that we are preparing for a Council study session on December 7 so December 7, we will have a draft report ready to present to Council. So what the impacts of co bed, the thing to highlight here is that the budget does include some additional requests for transportation see IP. As well as Vision Zero capital improvements, such as the pavement management program and some signal system upgrades on support of the Vision Zero goals. Future tab agenda items are listed here, as we know them now and that concludes my presentation, thank you. Thank you devin.
[114:00] I will open it up to questions from tab. anyone thinks that helps me see appreciate that and remember tab wanna jump in here any questions or feedback or Devon. Mark go ahead. In light of. The number of left turn injuries and deaths we've experienced and not all of them are at civilized intersections but I had my own close call which i've shared with all of those on the tab email list at a permissive left arrow. I, my question is have we ever undertaken the task of calculating the. for lack of a better word loss of service, and I know that that's Not a word that the at the board likes, but it is a metric.
[115:09] The total loss of service if we just made all centralized left hand turns protected. My knowledge we have not studied that in depth understand the implications of changing left turn phasing to protect only friends at all intersections within the city. Do you know of any community that has such a. policy or has implemented that. I do not know of one off the top of my head, but i'm sure that is something we could research. Well boulder could be first. Okay um.
[116:01] The other one that has come up for me and I noticed it in the presentation flashing yellow arrows for right turns do they exist anywhere in boulder in a functional, I know that they you're planning for them at broadway and rarely do they exist anywhere else in a functioning state. do not know. So broadway really is planned on being the first. It is great. But it is and that's not an experiment per se, that is, the first of a plan to actually add flashing yellow permissive flashing yellow arrows for right turns at other intersections. That is something that staff is considering doing.
[117:01] Okay. And finally, in the project list I didn't see the traffic circle and I forgive me, you gave me the drawing with the street location I don't have it here in front of me at the moment you didn't have the traffic circle in the project list that you and Ryan, and I met on. Where is that traffic circle and what is it says. Our traffic circle is planned to be installed at aurora and 35th. We did not receive any negative feedback relative to that proposed design, so it would be what we are planning on. In the next month or two Okay, and just to summarize my feedback from our meeting, which was super helpful to me and I really appreciate you and Ryan, taking the time to meet. That the design as as it was presented to me at the time, which was very similar to the design at 23rd and pine 23rd and maple turn etc it's a it's a it's a design that's very similar to what we have currently.
[118:19] I need to be on record that is an ineffective design effective design as a traffic calming device because of the radio is too small. And the amount of deflection is too small, so I just I want to state that and and hope that in Ryan was kind of encouraging, but he couldn't commit to anything that through either ramped curbs or some other feature, we could both increase the radio and increase the degree of deflection. Correct and aurora and 35th We are doing that traffic circle in combination with curve extensions to put motorists more toward the Center create that deflection outward around the Sir.
[119:09] Okay. Thank you. I may have missed that what project is that a part of or funding Program. That is one of the treatments we're proposing along aurora in conjunction with divisions your innovation Program. Okay, the second group. So it's a temporary traffic skeptical circle. Correct and. In full transparency, we are reviewing some options for how the circle could be built. Okay, few different material types, we could are considering. Okay. anyone else have questions feedback for Devon Ryan go ahead. Ryan forgot your microphone.
[120:01] Issues. Apologies Devon, thank you, I have one quick comment and one question on the comment thinking to the previous item on on recent traffic fatalities and serious injuries. I feel like big picture, two of the most important things the tab should be weighing in on our strategic planning overall just the various aspects of big picture. Planning and thinking and then secondly, if there's a if there's a catastrophe that, in which we is not worked and that's fatalities and serious injuries and. I I guess i'm i'm just thinking when I look at the division zero plan and some of the references or the crash reports before it. One thing that I feel I could add usefully to our dialogue here and, by the way, sort of super productive is discussion earlier with the officers to hear hear about the reports I feel like it's important for us to have. That kind of organization going forward sort of case by case on the big ones and i'm just i'm imagining you know I don't know if it goes in this the same memo that we do we have.
[121:09] You know when when we need to do these kind of updates, but something like a table in which we can just really clearly look at. Maybe there's three columns the first column is here's here's the here was the the incident or the crash with a fatality surgery next one is here's the. You know, determine causes for contributing causes, and then the third one is. What are the policy implications, you know after after some consideration and just something for us as as a tab I think you know we owe City Council our our views on on how things are working. I think I think we need something like that going forward, I think it would also just contribute to healthy dialogue so just want to have that as a comment. And then question is also just reflecting on that previous item, just it's you know just hearing the the reconstruction of the different. Of the different crashes it just jumps out how important that data is here and there's a lot of this forensics works that has to happen, and it is one gosh i'm really hoping for video footage video cameras and and i'm just wondering if there's.
[122:12] If there's anything we can or should do more to create a more distributed use of video around the city. it's probably it's probably considered and has over to you know, concerns the considerations but i'm just wondering what is there a role to increase more of the visual you know video footage and or their obstacles that stand in the way of that. Thinking because that is a very it's a good question but it's has a lot of parts to it. I think, relative to expanded use of video within the city, I can tell you that, as part of a grant we received through the Doc Dr clock. We are planning to install many more closed circuit TV cameras at intersections that will give us surveillance of the intersections typically those cameras, though, do not record, they just provide a live stream of the intersection.
[123:15] does anything prevent the city from recording that screen the separate place. Are there like aclu kind of concerns or. Right and that might be a limitation of that camera, but if we're streaming it somewhere. yeah I know other agencies, I think, do you have that ability, so I would need to check into what what it would take. takes off the top. Devon thanks and as i'm saying and I haven't I mean i'm just sort of came to me, I could imagine there's all kinds of. equity and other issues that i've not had not thought of so i'm not saying this is like this is, I don't know the solution that just sort of. taken by the looking at these reports that gosh I wish there was more video and hope I have video online when I have problems so anyway okay thanks for that.
[124:10] Thanks anyone else. I appreciate the report Devon, I really liked how the memo tied a bunch of these things into actual numbered items on the on the visions or action plan. Think that's one of the large deficits on the tmp action plan is it's hard to tell when what we're doing what it's not number it's hard to refer to my question really is. I know that our parts of the visions your action plan we identified also not just like near term feasibility of some of these these items, but impact like what would be really impactful. Change to make like focusing on the Left turn arrows protected phasing was a big one, is there anything. that comes to mind that we have left on the table that we're not really working on that will be one of those high impact things in the Vision Zero Action Plan that we should be maybe help helping push forward onto the work plan in the next year or two.
[125:08] One thing that comes to mind relative to that that we are looking at closely is the interactions. At multiple use path persons and how we sign and mark those and convey information to all users. I think there's been some challenges at multiple use path crossings with right turns from the intersecting streets where the person who's turning right is looking left. And they begin their turn, without looking to the right and there could be some on the multitudes path approaching from the right that they do not see, so I think that's one thing that staff, in particular, wants to take a close look at with this this update have a safe streets report. Okay, thank you. anyone else, before we let devin go.
[126:00] lovely Thank you devin for your time. yeah sure thing alright we're Moving on now to the staff briefing and tap the back on climate and transportation item seven on the agenda. Erica is going to lead this one. So I will introduce Chris hagman because then the key person that has been the liaison our climate and sustainability folks and to share the presentation, so thank you. Thank you. Yes, thank you Erica let me get my presentation going. Can you see the PowerPoint. We can. All right, so now I just go to.
[127:00] The slideshow, you have the site China. Yes, you do. All right, excellent Thank you and I am going to apologize, I do have to turn my camera off because i'm worried about my bandwidth. I have. A lot of kids at home on electronics, but good evening. My name is Chris hagglund i'm the acting transportation planning manager for transportation and mobility, I am joined here tonight with a number of my colleagues from climate initiatives, I believe I have Jonathan Cohen matt and lauren all here with me from the team. And they will be here and able to help answer any of your questions. The purpose of tonight's presentation is to provide a briefing on our shared transportation and climate efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. So I will be reviewing with you our climate and transportation goals, how we conduct our ghd analysis our past achievements and discuss our future future focus areas to build on both our past successes take advantage of opportunities and overcome the many challenges that we face.
[128:21] According to the greenhouse gas inventory for the city approximately 29% of all ghd emissions stem from transportation related activities, the majority of the city's emissions are the results of the heating and cooling of residential and commercial buildings. Recently the updated Climate Action Plan calls for a 70% reduction for all ghd emissions and specifically for transportation related emissions. The goal is to reduce the portion of transportation specific ghd by 50% from its 2005 baseline.
[129:02] According to the 2019 inventory progress toward this goal is evident, with a reduction citywide of 21% and for transportation specific. Emissions a 15% reduction from our 2005 baseline I did want to apologize for accidentally transposing numbers for the city wide ghd goal in the memo and the initial presentation that was shared. I mistakenly used the reduction total rather than the target in those things just transposing those two numbers and I would like to thank Tila for noticing my error and so it's been corrected in this slide. When we look at reducing our transportation related. Emissions we focus on three sectors bmt reduction through changes and travel behavior and modal shift of TRIPS away from vehicle trips. The impacts of increased fuel efficiency standards or federal CAFE standards for automobiles trucks that reduce emissions per vehicle miles of travel.
[130:06] And emission reductions from electrification vehicles through technological advancements and seen in our electric vehicle adoption rates. It is projected that approximately half of the transportation related emission reductions will likely come from electrification. There are a variety of ways that we can measure GHz emissions with each of each with different assumptions different methodologies. The city has selected to use the methodology for transportation, one of the key points of this methodology is that all the travel within boulder. is counted, along with half of the vehicle miles traveled of trips that enter or leave the city for work trips by either residents or non resident employees. Over the years, the city has relied on a variety of data sources to estimate bmt which is then converted to ghd with emission factors.
[131:04] For our overall annual and daily bmt figures, the city has typically relied on Dr cogs regional travel model which estimates total trips in and out and within boulder and the distances those. Distance traveled the city's transportation department has been using this data, since the early 90s, and for the past MPs 1994 had been used at the base as the baseline. For many years ago, was to keep the empty steady despite growth in population and employment, which we have seen significant growth since that time with this increased emphasis on meeting climate goals, the goal was shifted to a bmt reduction of 20% by 2030 with the last tmp update. As you may also know the city has been conducting surveys both residents and employees, since 1990 1991 respectively.
[132:03] We have used trip data and bmt data from the survey as a check on Dr Cox regional travel model. but also to track the bmt per capita objective that was introduced into our more recent tmp for both residents for all trips and. For work trips by non resident employees and then just this last year some exciting news, the city has begun subscribing to a service to provide cell phone data through a company called streetlight information from cell phone towers tracks. tracks cell phones as they move from where they are at night, presumably residences to wherever they are during the day, presumably at work. bmt can can be calculated, based on the origin and destination and the routes taken. Furthermore, this data can be segmented by census track and provide some rich demographic data for the owners of those moving cell phones we most recently use the data for East arapahoe sub Community plant.
[133:08] Data can also track through traffic, which is another aspect of travel through boulder and for this year streetlight actually gave us their their modified multimodal package. That can also segment out other types of vehicles such as bicyclists and also pedestrians, based on the speed of travel, so we are looking forward to using this new data set. A lot of the work that we did to come up with our ghd inventory analysis. And in information that's in our tmp is from a kind of a 2014 2015 sweep analysis sweep is the southwest energy efficiency project. And we work with them to project potential emission reductions, based on the implement implementation of Obama era CAFE standards and looking at electric vehicle adoption rates.
[134:06] At the time of that analysis, the tmp goal was a 80% reduction by 2050 so as you can tell there's been many times, where we've had both the targets, change the target years change, and also the baseline years in which we're looking at. The analysis also looked at projected emissions from bmt reductions from mode shift by meeting our team P objectives. The analysis separated out emt and and greenhouse gas emission percentages for residents non resident employees students transit service freight and also personal aircraft from the boulder municipal airport. The city plans on updating this analysis as part of our tmp update and for future ghd inventories especially excited about using our new cell phone data to do this, we certainly look forward to working with tab.
[135:06] On this effort, given your expertise and your interest one interesting note that we have already found out is that the actual vehicle adoption rate in boulder is almost 25% higher than the assumed rates of the 2015 sweep analysis. into the investments, the. city has made and multimodal infrastructure transit service edm programs safety improvements for pedestrians and bicyclists. The city has made progress in meeting bmt and co chair goals, although there is still much to do to meet our goals, and especially at a faster pace. The city has will continue to work on installing charging infrastructure and fleet electrification and, as you know, the city recently added three fully electric cars, the vehicles and we plan on electrifying more hopefully over time.
[136:02] sob trips by residents for all trips has steadily declined, with a reduction of 44% from 44% in 1992 36% in 2018 and even more progress has been made on work trips by resonance with a shift from 67% sov travel in 1992 just 34% in the same by our last one, which was in 2018. downtown boulder with his parking management and GM program featuring the master ECO past contract has seen less than half of employees, using an sob. To get to work, prior to coven despite increases in both population and employment bmt has declined from 2.62 million per day. In the climate action plan based year of 2005 to approximately 2.5 million today if voters deep daily bmt had grown at the same rate. As the rest of the doctor called region or bmt would have doubled well past actions have produced these results, we are still not on track to meet our tmt and ghd goals.
[137:11] Fuel efficiency improvements and electrification will certainly contribute significantly to this effort, but we do need to continue our efforts to reduce bmt through mode shift. Which is essentially what the tmp Action Plan, it tends to accomplish, of course, we face a number of challenges. The ability to achieve these goals are also impacted by local and regional land use decisions housing affordability. desired economic and Community vitality outcomes and mostly almost most significantly, our CDs ability to provide the level of both local and regional transit service really needed to meet our goals. In terms of future actions on fuel efficiency i'm sure some of you have seen just last week President Joe Biden signed an executive order aimed at making half of all new vehicles sold and.
[138:02] In 2030 zero emission vehicles and will propose new vehicle emission rules to curb pollution through 2026. biden's proposed rules which cover the the years 2023 to 2026 or expect to be similar and overall vehicle emission reductions to California is deal with the automakers that aims to improve fuel economy 3.7% annually through 2026. For our own fleet, the city's fleet we we have set policies around the purchase of vehicles requiring battery electric vehicles when available. When not available this the next preferred option is plug in electric, hybrid vehicles, of course, you must know that there are some heavy duty specialized vehicles, where there are no options currently available, such as some of our fire equipment. Recently we, as I mentioned, we added our three hot vehicles, we are working presently on some new grant opportunities that will add.
[139:07] Possibly up to six new hop electric buses in the near future we're also working with XL on their transportation electrification plan which is centered on charging hubs rebates for electrical vehicle purchases and school bus electrification. In terms of the bmt sector, we have many opportunities, we look to Vision Zero to make it safer for our residents employees and visitors to walk and bike safely around our Community. We look to shared Mike room ability, which will provide a key first and final mile option and make regional transit trips more viable with that person final mile ability and I think we also have a huge opportunity and telework which i've called lately the silver lining of Kofi.
[140:01] For ghd reduction, specifically, we need to focus on non resident employees. The daily bmt of a non resident employee for just one way of their work trip alone is almost double the red a boulder residents bmt for all trips. And since 1990 we haven't really seen a change in their behavior other when gas prices spiked in 2008, we need to focus on regional transit. And we are working towards brt quarter projects on state highway 119 state route seven with si.in our regional partners. We also need to work with our regional partners of back to colleague, and the more in the north front range ammo to revamp our van pooling programs, and for those outside of our TD, and for those. Especially those non resident employees who are outside of our TV districts and again, we need to keep working on maintaining the momentum of the telework shift which can can partially eliminate work trips for a specific number of our non resident employees.
[141:07] As we initiate or next tmp update We look forward to working with tab on overcoming these challenges and maximizing our opportunities to meet are both rtmp and climate goals. And then my questions I have for you, which were in the memo was does tab have any questions regarding tmt and climate action plan goals methodologies or analysis any of our past achievements or future focus areas. I bet someone does. Mark you had a question when he was back on slide five I think Do you remember what that was was something about our rates of adoption equals being higher. than it was 25 it was a number 25% of. Batman oh.
[142:01] No, it was. It was farther forward. There you go, he was yep yeah. Okay. yeah there was a you tossed out a number that. 25% of something somewhere somewhere anyway, I tried to remember it and i've lost it so if you if you see 25% of your notes for this slide I had a question, but other than that we can go on. yeah yeah i'm not exactly sure what. they're referring to, but I can. I made a note that we were back on slide five, and I believe it was something along the lines of boulder residents adopting a vehicles 25% higher than was assumed. Oh Okay, because we. know that, yes, yes, yes. you're welcome. yeah so so basically when sweep did their analysis. i'll try and turn up turn on my camera because it's kind of awkward. When sweet did their analysis they had an adoption rate for older residents and they predicted the number of electric vehicles that would be in boulder by 2020.
[143:13] Because that analysis was done really done in 2014 the report was 2015, and so we went back and looked at the number that they predicted for 2020. And then we looked at the number of electric vehicles that are actually in boulder and that number was 25% higher than sweeps projected estimate. Great that that answers my question, thank you. you're welcome. So mark know that you did be searched on the record several times on these tesla owners in town, you have anything to say to them now. Plus i'm sure there's still a vehicle. that's right. And I don't disparage tesla owners is merged previous owners like me plugin previous owners tesla owners I don't care i'll be searched them all it's still a vehicle and we're still relying.
[144:15] On excels. reduction in their in their coal and natural gas usage to produce electricity to charge our vehicles again self inclusive here. And, and I think that sometimes. i'll be smart us all and say we are failing to do the hard work to change the things that are under our control where what we can do within the city and whether it's Vision Zero improvements. hardened facilities for cyclists, to reduce the empty rather than rely on the EPA and carb and the electric vehicle market to make our job easy as reducing our greenhouse gas.
[145:13] Emissions so i'm going to turn that around and rather than be smart anybody, I want to add the asked one question, and that is. In our recent analyses are we really doing all we can, or why aren't we doing more with what we can control. i'm not sure. How to answer that market. Well, in terms of. What Okay, in turn, okay total if you look at our report card. Where we look at total bmt.
[146:05] Still trending out. Essentially. it's not going down enough for us to reach our goals by 2030. If you look at our greenhouse gas emissions is not going down enough to reach our goals by 2030 and, if you look at the progress we've made much of that progress has to again. To my way of reading it. has to do with the grids reduction of use of fossil fuels and the electrification vehicles versus actually getting people out of cars. onto bikes on the track on to transit walking etc, and so those things are harder, but we control those things.
[147:00] it's not it's not the market for electric vehicles it's not federal subsidies tax subsidies for electric vehicles it's not the next wind farm that XL builds it's it's the things that we can control, we can implement, we can do so. i'll make a case that we could be doing, we could do be doing more under the things that we can control. Now, and and i'd certainly agree with you, you know when we look at. ghd emissions certainly one of the big sectors is the non resident employee. And since 1990 the sov mode share rate for the non resident employee has pretty much been at 80%. Only when the gas prices spiked it did go up so regional transit is certainly one of the key areas that we need to make significant progress on to make to provide regional travel options that are competitive, to the personal vehicle in terms of time in terms of cost in terms of convenience.
[148:15] And I think that's what you know we're doing with the brt projects on state highway. And state route seven those are the corridors that the majority of our non resident employees and turn leave the city and so that work to me, is extremely important in reducing both bmt and greenhouse gas emissions, for example. Jonathan I see you unmuted you want to jump in here. Well you're very attentive, I appreciate that very much yeah good evening everybody, my name is Jonathan koa and i'm the acting director of the climate initiatives department, I also wanted to just introduce. Some of my team that's joined tonight carolyn Eelam, who is the energy manager she'll probably have a fair amount to to add to this conversation lauren tremblay our data analyst.
[149:07] Who is fantastic with our numbers and i'm not sure if I saw matt lerman on he had some parental duties this evening he may or may not be here. Mark I first of all, I really appreciate the opportunity to be with you all tonight, I hope that this is a series or a start a series of conversations with tab. And I have to just acknowledge the the great work and the partnership that we have been building between our departments between climate initiatives and transportation. And in mark I also i'm going to start by saying, I agree with you and traditionally when we started our work going back to 2006 when we adopted our first Climate Action Plan. all the way up to 2015 and then our revision our last revision in 2017 2019. Our focus has been predominantly on the biggest lever, that we can pull related to emissions, and that has been an energy in that his band and electricity generation.
[150:05] And women when you talk about the things that we can control, I will say that much of our work up to this point has been in the policy realm working at the state level encouraging. Both the public utilities Commission and our regulatory agencies to apply pressure on our provider to clean up. its energy supply its electricity supply now we find ourselves in a very unique situation where we've been successful. And we have a utility that has state mandates to reach 80% reduction in emissions by 2030 that's good news. That allows us to shift our focus to more of the things, just as you say that we can control what it, what are the next biggest levers that we need to be pulling. And that's why I think there is such a strong affinity between our departments and thinking about how we can really align around. emissions associated with transportation I think that's incredibly exciting the things that we can control, both in terms of policy, the things that we can influence in terms of Community values, so I will just say just going back to the be smirking.
[151:08] point that was made no I just. got me off. I want to retract it. and I. Thought anyway okay so. Then. i'm just giving you a little bit. I just wanted you to hear the. point that I think this is really. A time to approach the climate issue with a greater sense of urgency. And it isn't about doing more of what we've done it's really changing our approach and our tactics and electrification is one of the tools that we use clearly there has been such a. History and a strong foundation for the work that has been coming out of the transportation department in terms of reducing bmt. looking at ways to get people out of their vehicles and, as a last resort if they are going to be in a vehicle making sure that it's electric and making sure that that electric vehicle is charged by clean, renewable electricity.
[152:11] Thank you, thank you john and Chris I appreciate your your replies to my castigating remarks. And there's many other tools as well in the toolbox yeah okay. All right, okay. Can I take a shot. yeah go ahead, I saw I saw you don't need to touch go ahead. yeah I know some of these folks so they probably know what i'm just saying before I say it. But I am particularly interested in how to handle the trade offs across various particular business constituencies in the city around telecommuting. You know there's folks that love it I think many of us in the treatment world sort of like it, but if you're the restaurant across the street from Google. The went there because you know they had 300 people in the building you weren't so happy and we have a system where local merchants tend to have people's ears, on the Council level, at least.
[153:09] So i'm wondering how to really think about this and. You know, find ways for the city to encourage telecommuting. yeah no, I understand your point exactly telecommuting, especially during coven we saw a 30% reduction in overall traffic volumes in the city of boulder. Significant reduction we do know that telework is not for all types of jobs, you know some jobs, as you mentioned, do not have the ability to have have teleworking, there are, however, a lot of jobs in boulder that that do fit that mold. And I would say, you know, certainly one of the hard points is that trade off right, I mean our city depends on sales tax revenue sales tax revenue, especially in our commercial areas are very related to real retail jobs, their restaurants their entertainment certainly need.
[154:12] People coming to those places right, so I think we have to really balance, how do we both promote telework but the same time providing economic vitality for our businesses which we rely on to generate sales tax to do the work that we do. And it is a I think it is a difficult balance, certainly, I think one way, we can we're we're already going to start working with businesses. Through boulder chamber and the BBC to understand one how has teleworking transform their businesses, we want to gather data on businesses that you know how are they going to continue what's their coven pivot for how there are. employing their workforce are they working from home is it partial is a hybrid work environment, like the city is working on.
[155:05] So we're going to start gathering that data and start listening to businesses. But I think we always ask you said, we have to be mindful of the trade offs and the impacts of economic vitality, when we don't have people in boulder during the day to to spend money it's it's a it's an important question. Well, I think you you you captured it right, Chris I mean the reason I brought it up in that way is. I, I think that decision makers in the city are are going to be forced to make the decision systematically the wrong way, because otherwise the city won't have its revenue, so you know that the link with the revenue model is going to kill the decision making on things like this. Without some modifications to the revenue ball so. yeah that's my concern and i've had a couple of chats with the some folks on the Council about this that you know you you you you can't have a big right clause sort of driving your decision making, which is you know where you get the vast majority of your money.
[156:12] And then you know, have the city changed fundamentally so you know I did I did I do think that you know the the Cross departmental coordination and maybe this coming in part to Erica you and Jonathan. The needs to create the tangibility be tangibility about that, to encourage Council and others to say Okay, we really have to bite the bullet on these things about revenue models. I may interject I think that you know, taking a thread from what whenever scenario was speaking to tab you know earlier this evening. She had indicated, you know that she's very much interested in and committed to in looking across all the different plans and looking toward implementation and how you know they all kind of knit together and balance and.
[157:06] I think that you know, Jonathan I can speak for both of us that's something that we're looking forward to, because the discussion we're having tonight you know it's like kind of squeeze a balloon over here pops up someplace else and so it's trying to. come up with a different paradigm, to make that actually solve for X and sort of that algebraic type of thing. Thank you. And, if I may add just real quickly you know the city prior to coven we were working on some alternative funding mechanisms for the transportation department We certainly hope to renew those activities. You know, as soon as we can, because we knew we know that diversifying our revenue is critical to reaching some of those goals and then those trade offs won't be as as difficult they'll still be there, but maybe not as difficult.
[158:04] I am left with a sense that we've kind of left one of the large leavers on on yank when we when we. sort of allowed parking pricing discussion to get so watered down, you know when you see that we saw a significant change in behavior when gas prices went up, I was like yes that's. that's exactly the kind of you know minute change that can affect behavior and we're not talking about all or nothing we're talking about you know, a constriction and a diminution of you know, some behavior that we've determined is somewhat harmful. And i'm quite curious about the. Coming from California, where I grew up, which is also a car is king and mass transit is terrible in general with you hotspots that are great. carpooling became a real real lifesaver for very congested areas and so to hear Christie or you say like sov you know hasn't budged since the 90s, and therefore transit.
[159:05] I feel like maybe your maybe you've done all the analysis and people won't carpool anyway, but. ride sharing private ride sharing you know ad hoc kind of ways to encourage people to carpool really rescued, a lot of the bay area, and you know couldn't. Like effective congestion bracing over the bridges and things that's how they managed and it's horrible don't don't get me wrong we're not aiming for that that these seem like leavers, we could pull if we had sufficient. drive and I wonder if if our poor direction is going to be that sufficient drive. i'm hoping it will ignite some appetite for re re addressing and rethinking about some of these alternative funding models that that you've mentioned, I want to make sure I give her a chance to hop in here he's gotten good job there, you can even put your hand up. Thanks.
[160:00] Chris Thank you please presentation, you have three questions I have something for free to them. Just a couple things first, so thank you also john for being here and nobody's reference so i'll do it the big IPCC report was out today. telling us that we're looks like we're going to shoot past the 1.5 degrees, not a huge surprise for those following us. But just to I just like to ground us a little bit to point out that these discussions, get really wonky. quickly, but what we're talking about here is our our biosphere collapsing and literally the seasons, as we know them deconstructing and. As far as i'm concerned, this is the most important transportation issue and it's more most important City policy issues that we have to deal with and. I just think we should try to keep keep that as close to our minds as we can, as we, as we think about where we need to stretch where we need to really need to push and I know i've been a squeaky wheel on this. So I didn't want to channel somebody else and it's a member of the public that wrote in today.
[161:00] turns out eileen kerrigan if i'm saying your name right short of a pretty eloquent personal story about our climate changes, impacting her and she said. Essentially, like, I take a thesis statement as electric vehicles and stricter CAFE standards are necessary but they're not sufficient to decarbonize transportation so. Two questions from her husband city, reducing bmt vt per capita and also how do you how do you analytically think about that level of DVD adoption split between ev adoption and then. Everything else and I didn't she didn't say exactly that way but um these are similar questions that i've asked and I just wanted to recognize we have Members of public asking us these questions. And so the other thing just for before I go to the questions is on. My day job I work for an organization that's focused predominantly on eds and it's with an understanding of that and some of the limitations of EBS. That i've come too much discussion saying what are we doing about shifting in and be empty, so I really first one to just commend and thank Erica and Chris and the team for.
[162:03] What appears to be having flipped the switch and getting getting bmt and most shifting into this which i'm. really grateful for i'm glad we don't have to keep talking about whether it belongs to me or not I and, specifically, I really appreciate it Erica the. Perhaps Chris the the the the language in the document for today, which says that the tmp and it's Action Plan versus a framework for the for the climate plan through transportation. that's that's great that's what we that's what i've been hoping we would have I hope this would have been here before, would have been nice to have had it with our encounter at City Council talking. About amps but i'm really got us here, so I think the team for moving in that direction and. I would just make one more comment is i'm glad we have the common ground from this to build from, and I agree with Jonathan that we're gonna I think there's a lot for us to sort of begin to unpack on this. And I with that and in the spirit of doing so I just I would quibble a little bit Jonathan with them.
[163:00] This so there's this construct of of things we can control, and those are the things that we should spend a lot of our time on that i've. heard heard you say a little bit about. I would say, the thing that we can as a city can control the most is the streets it's literally the streets, that we that the city controls the direct operations for all of the maintenance. All the rules, all the enforcement, it is, and it is this team here, and I would say that if you if you just consider where does the city have its levers to to move climate. Climate Action, this is, this is, this is the, this is the furnace room, this is, this is where we can actually move stuff we have all the levers and switches. And so I just want to, I guess, I would suggest that we just be made, maybe just maybe better reflected in as we think about where do we have to control so. Anyway, thanks for the part of the listening to the prelude on Chris on the first question, the first question was is the board, have any questions regarding the tmt. As climate goals, I guess, my my sort of main question is just do you do you do we know what the big levers are for mode shifting for the empty mode shifting.
[164:13] Like we'd like I mean I know the presentation, you talked about it, you kind of kind of like somatic areas, but we do we have a pretty good understanding of the specific things that the city can do and we'll plan to do to to actually drive the mode shifting. And so what are those things, and if not, what what do we, what do we need to do in the collected to to do to roll up our sleeves and really get our on our hands as a team around us. yeah, so I think there's. You know there's many different things. We really have to provide viable options. multimodal options for. People. And, as I said before. That. is competitive. To the car. In terms of time convenience cost.
[165:01] That will get people to switch. So, as I already brought up the regional brt example. Surely that is going to be. A key especially and when we look at where. Our non. resident employees work. The other thing I think is one of the most underutilized modes and it kind of. point to something that deal brought up was carpooling, but I think van pooling is is one of those options, where you know you have places like puget sound that has like thousand plus van pools on the road, you know we have a few hundred. And you know those programs are Dr cogs programs and the north front range mph program the band go program the city for years has been providing subsidies to anybody who uses a band pool. We also provide an additional subsidy for city employees to Vancouver as well, I think one of the key change, we need to do in the band point is to simplify the pricing.
[166:05] And the fair structure and also to provide a benefit to our to employees, where the employee pays a small portion and employers pay a larger portion. The University of Colorado implemented the eventual program where vampire riders pay a flat fee of $25 a month and see you picks up the rest of their Bamboo cost typically example cost is about $100 a month, so the so the employer is paying most of the cost of that. I think that's a program we can replicate and allison and I in our cdn program we're on the verge of doing that, before covert hit, we will get back on that and do that, I think, micro mobility is a tremendous opportunity in our city. The first and final mile is a huge issue, especially for our regional transit users, you know they get off the bus and they still got a mile to go.
[167:07] I think the micro mobility program I think he bikes in that shared program are going to be a huge game changer. we're going to continue invest in that and and we're going to do the the year long pilot with the students and see how they work out as well, I think those are two big things i'd mentioned again telework telework is a tremendous. way to just eliminate those work trips, all together, which have which are contributing a huge percentage of the bmt and the greenhouse gas emissions. More closer to home, I agree with you on the streets to me, that is the essence of our low stress market bike network. A bit our Vision Zero improvements of 15 minute neighborhoods, we need to do that we need to make some bold land use, changes in order to really help those.
[168:03] happen it's one thing to reduce our speeds to our Vision Zero 20 it's quite another to look at you know some of our tools and how we do those to really make the connection between the neighborhood and those commercial destinations that can be done safely by foot or by bike. You know, or by bus to make those daily trips taken but you know we've done a good job with with city residents it's the non resident employees really some of the. keys. I you know, I was really hopeful. When the employee trip reduction program idea was circulating at the. State level. Unfortunately that was kind of moved to be voluntary. But I think it, it is a first step. to something that will. likely have a profound. impact on that employer. Side so on, you know Those are some of the things off the top of my head. That, I think.
[169:00] Are the ways in which we can really start changing. Travel behavior and. You know the focus on that non. resident employee. and housing affordability, without a doubt, is. You know, is an issue. Creating more affordable housing here. Is. is another thing that. I think, would help. as well. Okay, thanks for that great so I violent agreement with those topic areas look forward to hopefully figuring out a way we can help to. I guess create a little more maybe discipline around them and goals and discipline around those and tab and provide some support. So so thanks for that, on the second question, do we have any questions on the past achievements, I guess, I sort of I don't you know don't spend too much time here but. If you went in the I think you presented it in your slides and what I saw in the memo the analysis section was that we've actually had some significant reductions.
[170:03] promote shifting from from sov in the past and i'm just curious with there's any thinking on like what's the story there like what what did what caused that. city, did we can continue continue to build from. yeah I mean. Honestly, I would say, you know. The rtb ECO pass. Program. which was essentially started in boulder in our in our downtown the neighborhood programs. The master contracts. The CU college pass. When I have. done the analysis of. The survey results. We saw that. Someone with. The NICO pass in their pocket. is five times more likely. To use transit to get to work. On their car at home, they are nine times more. likely to use transit. For a non work trip. When I specifically, and this is getting.
[171:02] You know the data is little old. But I did a survey of neighborhood ECO past participants, I think this was maybe 2009. I found out that people residence with a neighborhood ECO pass produce 55% less greenhouse gas emissions, then a resident without access to one of those passes or a business ego pass. And so that brings me to you know, an idea that we've certainly had for a long time in the city of boulder that we haven't been able to make it come to fruition and that's the Community wide ego pass. And whether or not we do it within the parameters of our TD, or we look outside of the parameters of our TD, I think that developing a way to subsidize transit passes in some way or transit use in some way.
[172:02] will make a profound difference, one of the more interesting things we also saw from that NICO past study is that people with an eco pass, not only do they take transit. You know X amount more they also walk and bike more, and I think that's really about the development of long term culture change. The neighborhood ECO pass to me is fascinating because it creates a culture of transit use within a family. It is families using transit together, it is children learning to use the bus and the bus is normalized behavior. I would love to see that type of program expand, you know we've tried within our TD. You know, and we may have to look for ways outside and I know, mark you know we've been working together on that for a while and you know I think we need to find a way to provide that transit subsidy to more people.
[173:10] Great Okay, so one more question on your second class yeah quick question do we have questions about past past patterns. So I look at the the current driving or the recent driving, I think it was 37% about 37% so bs and about 29% multi multi multi multiple occupant driving. And so you know that's in the 5550 cars driving around in the city. And i'm just trying to imagine what's what do we know about what like Why are people driving and one of my. instinct is that well, we have 30,000 ish students in school students and so not not university, but I mean like parents drive you know students going to elementary and. High School and so on, and my my feeling is that that's probably a big part of it, and so there's like the whole school system that there's some there's that's a. Big chunk of it but i'm just curious if you if if that seems right or if there's any other stories about like what are the big reasons that people are driving if there's like kind of key categories or.
[174:09] Demographics that are really important to this, you know understanding of what's happening in the city. yeah certainly I think we need to explore that. More we do know that. The majority of those multiple. occupant vehicle trips. Are with children. So driving children around is certainly you know, a huge percentage. of that. You know, and I think when I when you look at school in general. Open enrollment has a significant. impact. On on travel behavior. And if parents have to. You know, start their day by taking a child to. school. They end up driving all the way to. work so that certainly has an impact. Okay, thanks i'll just go to the last final one is, I appreciate your patience on this just going through this quickly.
[175:02] So the final question was is the board, have any influence on focus areas for further gh T I do enjoy the input, if I could i'll just verbally say. maintenance, I think, to do that could benefit from being added into here and perhaps afterwards I can write this down. But i'll just i'll just kind of go in order so it's like maybe seven points or so the first one is that um. One thing that jumped out at me is some of the references to things that the Federal the federal agencies are doing and. I would, I guess, I would really prefer to have a climate Climate Action Plan focus on the thing that the city is acting on. I think that's generally an accepted definition of the action of an action plan of an organization, I know it's a little bit. Confusing to sort of unravel who's doing what but you know, in general I would think of CAFE standards and ease that are being led. Adoption being led from federal ED incentives that's not really climate action for the city.
[176:04] What would the climate expert the city would be things that the city is doing to accelerate. Adoption of these could be charger incentives charging infrastructure tdnn that encourages ev us for maybe a couple of reviews. regulations that in encourage or some kind of incentives that encourage people to drive small smaller vehicles. So I don't want to be too dogmatic about it, but I do think the plan would would benefit from some discussion on look there's there's sort of some background changes that are happening, those are great. that's kind of baseline and then what boulder is going to focus on and report on are the things that folder is taking action core. that's my first point second suggestion would be I don't know if I miss it, but in the in the reference to including the tmp goals of of vision sorry of. The mta mode shifting I don't know if I saw Vision Zero and I would just I just searched that that Vision Zero should be on here as one of the key climate goals.
[177:03] for the reason that we know the majority of people nationwide who don't bike or. The majority people who a majority, people will say that they don't like because they are legitimately afraid of being hit by a car. And there's more and more studies showing that the landscape is becoming even more hostile from the from the view of a bicyclist and I don't mean boulder specifically but just just in general. And so, so there's a there's a strong connection between getting visions you're right and encouraging that most shifting onto onto punted bikes and pedestrians, so I suggest that we ideally include that. I think the third thing would be this is perhaps just going to take some time to work together on but it's left characterize the mode shifting strategies and that. And that means there are some things that were within our grasp, but there are some other things that are going to require some work but are still worth doing, namely some of these systems problems are you have to do you know supply and demand together.
[178:02] And or areas where the city has said, some of the obstacles are the cities and departments and some of the you know Jared jurisdictional stuff. itself to me those see like things that requires some characterization and the climate plan of you know. How we're going to attack those things, so what we don't end up doing is saying well we're not going to pursue this one measure because it by itself is not going to get us everywhere. Rather here's the 10 things we need to do, and the plans that the planets are getting getting to it, and in that I would say parking strategy to some extent, is one of those small things that is necessary but not sufficient for this mode shifting. So, in any case I just think we need some kind of a characterization of those of those mode shifting strategies. I think the just a couple more here. You know what i'll just come to the last one right i'll try to write this down and send it to the whole list. And and staff, but the final one I just I thought, things were mentioning is i'm I feel like there's a rule I don't know if this goes into climate plan exactly but there's a role here to play on educating.
[179:09] Different. different departments, that are not transportation about the role of of non car options that can connecting that can help with economic and Community vitality. And there's that one topic is impacting local businesses and there's you know there's an active discussion nationally taking place around the city around the country. On on cities, who are starting to understand that, even though shop owners will say they just have this kind of life experience reflex to say, well, we need cars here to grow, the business. It actually turns out that putting more bikes in front of the business means more people coming in and there's and there's there's more because market activity. And I think there's something around like just studying this a little better and really testing this idea that there's this strong.
[180:00] Tension between economic vitality and some of these merchants and goals, because I, because I think what we're finding is there's there's there's a lot more complementarities and. A lot of people expect, and then, and then the other part of economic community vitality. is just you know what one of the one of the big opportunities of giving people alternatives to driving in a car by themselves is that we're putting wealth back back into people's pockets and. The more that we can help people to accomplish that the more that we're we're increasing the economic and Community vitality, you know big big picture, so we'd love for the plants include some some reference to those topics. So, in any case, I thank you for listening and i'll just. get off the podium here, and all I need to write somebody down submit yeah. No, I look forward to working you know with you and, as we do, or update. Our next ghd inventory and you know we're going to be embarking on the transportation master plan you know really look forward to working with you to incorporate those ideas.
[181:03] Thanks Chris thanks Ryan i'm Chris I had emailed you over the weekend, I had a question about whether we're considering free traffic or. Yes, that's part of the numbers or not part of it. yeah certainly is. and You know I can provide you additional information on the breakdown. Again curious. For me to discern that from the materials okay yep thanks anyone else. Oh Alex perked up and unmuted go ahead Alex. The first like to thank Ryan for initiating this conversation I think and all the work that staff put into this and i'm glad to hear that this might be a little bit more of a series than a one off meeting. Earlier early on, I was a little disconcerting hearing, I think, Maria mentioned that the county holds the strongest leavers and then within transportation, the RCD is who were were most dependent on to solve some of those regional.
[182:04] issues but Chris in response to summarize questions named a ton of things that are are within the city's control and some of those will take time, some of those will take money, some of them will take. drawn out processes what I haven't heard is anything that perhaps could be rather immediate something that. We could put before Council and say, do we have the political will will you stand behind us to take bold immediate action it feels like we've declared emergency. But aren't acting with much swiftness so I agree with everything Christie said, are there any of those the think are particularly quick things we could do. or with our streets being the essence of our low stress walking by network, and perhaps the thing that that city can really control other things with the streets, so we could do in a in a brisk manner with enough public and political support.
[183:03] Well, I know you know new development is not a huge you know part of this equation, but you know prior you know we were working on the parking code changes and also a potential tedium ordinance for. New development, so I think those are things you know the parking code changes really should take a shorter amount of time. You know, we certainly want to look at also you know, the development of smart streets and make sure that we have electric electric vehicle charging infrastructure in place, I think those will also make a big difference. You know I think there are also possibly you know some policies, you know kind of that tpm dial of doing policies around. tedium requirements requirements for existing businesses as well, not just new developments that has not gained a lot of traction in the past, but you know policy changes can happen and have a much faster quicker impact.
[184:12] I think, including some of those as in some of these materials would be helpful and almost presented as a menu to. The current or upcoming Council would be perhaps ways we can expedite some of these efforts yeah. Thanks Alex anyone else. Think we've done a round Robin. I do, encourage that to hear that this was hopefully the beginning of a few iterations of this conversation so look forward to continuing it at some point down the road soon with you, but thank you very much for coming. Thank you and thank you, my climate colleagues for for joining us on this Monday night. RON Thank you yeah.
[185:00] To mark yes. I have one final comment, and that was i'm. Ryan, I wish you could have been on the east folder sub Community plan joint meeting with the planning board because, and I was, I was scrambling trying to find the. The latest version of these boulders up Community plan, but the striking thing just in terms of this topic was that that East folder sub Community plan mentions climate in in the most general of ways and doesn't really doesn't relate. Housing travel distance from home to employment. It really doesn't relate in any quantifiable measurable or even even beyond just a basic sentence or two in the outline or goals there's nothing there's really nothing there and I think that as we, as a city go forward the.
[186:08] jonathan's team needs to be involved in in every you know this cross collateral ization of departments and the silo wing of things. But every plan that we produce has to be viewed with at least with a climate lens if not entirely through a climate lens and and that you know that anyway, these smaller subcommittee and plan was one that was. An excellent example of a plan that had been worked on for a very long time in the very recent past. That just really climate was not addressed in any meaningful way. So i'm hoping we can we can. work out other plans. And mark to just to draw it out, I think this is this is totally solvable with with a a climate plan here, in which we say okay let's just.
[187:04] let's say most shifting is half I don't know half of it for transportation and then within mode shifting we've got four key strategies they're each going to you know do a quarter of the work. And then that gives that gives the the direction to other departments to say well okay this, this is the strategy that we're not feeding into i'm just making up the numbers and the fractions but yeah So hopefully we can get to that get to that point. Okay, thanks, Jonathan yes last words 20 seconds. i'll do a quick, I just wanted again appreciate all of the comments. Really really positive and I want you all to know that I think this is exactly what Eric and I have been talking about how do we. Think about climate less of an appendage something to kind of tack on to the end and making it deeply rooted in our in our planning process so. How we are starting to work with our colleagues in planning to think about how land use plays into a very broad and comprehensive climate strategy how this is really a lens that we begin with and not end with.
[188:00] So I just wanted again appreciate all the comments that i've heard tonight and again reiterate that this is the beginning of a number of conversations that we should be having on this topic, so thank you. Fantastic Thank you thanks for being here tonight thanks guys. All right, thank you. Very well, can I close this out now and we will move to matters. First, after matters, an agenda safe streets report update from Devon. feel I will yield my time here unless tab feels that i'm presentation did not give a sufficient update on the safe streets report. I see no objection from any Member of tab thanks for being so thorough before. um. And then I. Looked over my notes, so that draft is going to counsel on December so we'll expect to see it yeah. Right. And then next shared micro mobility program hi DK.
[189:00] hello to a meeting tab. I see everyone and I can't think of a better timing, then, to give you some of the news that I have for you tonight regarding our shared Michael ability program i've got a brief presentation that i'ma share with you here. So let me. it's working. Great. Let me just move to. Presentation mode here. Maybe Chris islands kids are playing on your network now. hogging all your bandwidth. Yes. It seems to be loading. Okay, there you go. slideshow from beginning all right here we go there, we go okay.
[190:06] Great thanks a lot everyone, I have just a quick presentation to give you some exciting news, again, I think the timing is perfect, to release this news you guys are the first to hear it. And this is all about our micro mobility or share mega mobility program and we've come to the point where we have selected. Our vendors and we're ready to share that information with you uncover some of the highlights but quickly Just to give you an overall understanding of the whole selection process. In August 2020 we issued an rfp request for information, which provides a lot of background information, what we can expect. So between September 2020 2020 and February 21 February 2021 we had a collaborative process that we did with some Community stakeholders to develop a shared scope of work. What do we want to see in that program and so those entities were a CU boulder boulder county tab Thank you very much, Argentina, for contributing your time to helping to help shape that rfp.
[191:09] The boulder Chamber committee cycles surpass bolder and bolder housing partners to name a few, and so this really is a I think a shared or. A shared vision in terms of what we want to get from our share Michael mobility program and so all that work went into to develop that rfp which we issued in March of 2021. And then from April through may response team sorry the review the response review team, which consisted of the city. staffer a CU boulder and boulder county participated in several interviews and demonstrations and then in May we selected the dinner vendors. And then we had the contractual process, which lasted a few months and we just completed that and So here we are today to announce the vendors and share the details for the program commencement.
[192:00] And so, our two lucky contestants are the cycle and line and so with the cycle there's a very important caveat or I should say nuance to this. b cycle llc the subsidiary to track which manufacturers, all of the cycle components came to the table with a response to our rfp to take over operations that are currently cycle system. This was very helpful in terms of having a private firm behind or a corporation behind running the program in terms of our annual subsidy that we will no longer have. They partnered with line the scooters to develop sort of a Co proposal and they've been working closely back and forth to develop that kind of what will be our shared Michael mobility program consisting of E bikes and scooters. So a few highlights for each of the bikes and scooters they're working on a transition to fully electric assist fleet that we won't have any more petabytes per se.
[193:05] Human powered pedal bike so we'll all be electric assist bikes will have 400 bikes in circulation in 2021 and will gradually increase that number and 2022 up to 500 as we expand the surface area to all parts of boulder including. Including gun barrel, and one of the things that will be working on, is to refurbish the existing docking stations. there's a new brand or I should say an updated brand for recycle this black and white logo up there and. And so you're going to see changes coming to the existing stations and they're also going to be these new 3.0 modular docking stations. That a little bit more versatile and we can install those on many more locations throughout the city. And they don't require the same amount of infrastructure on the previous stations were were pretty expensive to manufacture and also install. And so, these modular docking stations are battery powered and they they're they're a lot more like I said versatile and can be stuck in Nixon crannies and whatnot.
[194:04] And again, the expanded service areas we're really excited about having service in North North boulder boulder South boulder those places where we don't have a bikes service today. And all these will be linked with transit that's a big part of this, and really helping to drive down those regional transit or those regional vehicle miles. And then line some details for line he scooters will be getting their new s for model and and we had an opportunity to DEMO these particular devices, they. they're new and they have their little bit more sturdy than some of the earlier versions of IE scooters larger wheel diameter. A more solid frame swappable batteries those will come in time right now they're still using the batteries where they're installed within the scooter. But just a you know, the latest and the greatest when it comes to the technology, and so you know if there's we've been somewhat beneficial in terms of waiting.
[195:06] Because now we're getting the I guess the cream of the crop now in terms of technology little more sustainable as well he's also last a lot longer in the field. So it's a start we're going to see 200 East scooters these are capped at 50 miles per hour. And the line may increase the number of scooters in the fleet, through a demand base camp model so if these devices are getting more than two rides per device per day, we can expand their fleet size. By 20% every two weeks. And then, so this first year of operations, we are looking at limited service and East folder for the first year of operations. And of course we'll do an evaluation quarterly evaluation keep you guys up to up to speed on what's happening with developments are occurring and how things are going. On but after that first year we'll we'll do a formal evaluation report and then bring it back to tab and city council with recommendations and how to move the program forward.
[196:11] One of the interesting or I guess yeah, what are the interesting program or the pieces of this program with the scooters as. For the first ride there's a training ride mode, where the scooters can only go eight to 10 miles per hour and so from from a lot of the data we did looking at crashes 30% of the crashes. were occurring for first time writers and so we really hope this is going to help with safety have the gains. In terms of communications, we have a joint press release going out August 11 that's just in a couple days that's with CU boulder county and all the Chamber line and the cycle. we'll have the we'll announce the vendors and also program details our city web page is going to be a great resource here we'll have faqs.
[197:03] Talking about how to how to check out one of these bikes and scooters where they can be written safety helmet use parking appropriately responsible parking. Access to affordability programs how to report issues, and of course contact information will also be using a number of other tactics from our communications team I city newsletter inside over new segments social media collaborating with our Community partners on those. blog posts, and then a big piece of this too, and again for those regional trips is that communication with local businesses utilizing that the strength of chamber, etc. And that's really what I had for you here tonight, hope that was brief enough and gave you the good information and it's exciting to be here at this point and we're ready to launch this program so with that and answer any questions, if you like.
[198:02] Thanks decay. When they hit the ground. So the scooters are going to hit August 17. And how does this affect see us i'm planning. To see you is also in the process. Of. Separate rfp process right. No, not a separate an rfp process but. yep, so there are finalizing their agreements, right now, as well, so everything is timing up pretty nicely here. Okay yeah for both see you and the city and homeless equal they're so excited to be this point and we're ready to launch this program. Then mark go ahead. So has see you changed. What what what is see you status and terms in terms of scooters on campus is that, at last, I heard or understood it was no, but what is see us policy on scooters.
[199:06] Thanks for asking that question mark they've had they've had a change in mind, and so they. are still concerned about the scooter use on their main campus but, for the first year of operation is they're willing to give it a go. And the scooters will be allowed on East campus and also Williams village so parking devices and use of those devices there'll be specific dismount zones, but they are they're willing to give it a try, as we all are, and so. Working with them very closely to develop a successful program we hope it will be. And I see the dismount symbol down in the bottom i'm pointing to my screen and you can't see that but anyway on the on the current slide I see the little dismount symbol, have we. finished started what's the progress on our two consolidated dismount zones in the city and signage and Community education on those discount zones.
[200:10] Right, the boulder revised Code has been changed the maps are legal from the revised good web page all the markings now are in place, and both university Hill and and. and also in the downtown area and education is ongoing we've been doing this is a. I purposely put this little image in here it's one of our communication assets to help folks know where you know these devices can be written, so this communication outreach will be ongoing but we've initiated when that policy was changed. Great Thank you. Any other questions for DK. here. Great thanks a lot for your time. And DK, this is a you must feel pretty good to actually have this coming about finally.
[201:07] Oh yeah absolutely mark thanks for yeah most definitely it's been it's been a real team effort you know multi departments within the city, I mean. Every Community stakeholder you can think of within boulder it's really a collective vision coming together and it's go time so it's we're we're happy to be here and to see this thing through. Well, good work, thank you. Thank you can appreciate. Thank you. Alright what's next heads up about asphalt and paint challenges for projects Erica. And so, just to quickly share with you that we're running into some challenges in terms of getting projects out into the field, and the reason why is that there is a statewide i'm shortage of asphalt. And that's due to a number of different factors one is that the largest supplier binder material it shut down their operation for maintenance and they're having it's taking a little bit longer i'm due to get things out because of international supply chain issues.
[202:17] there's also a shortage of truck drivers to deliver the binder to us, as well as a shortage of folks to actually. You know, to fill fill in the contractors that we use, you know to do that so just want to make you aware of it that you know, we had lots of goals and aspirations to be able to do things very quickly and. Actually, the summer, but we're running into some issues so just wanted to give you that heads up around that and we're keeping a very close eye on it. Okay. So you know that's full information sharing The other thing, too, is that we have been getting many inquiries about Oh, the US 36 bridge is falling at.
[203:06] baseline in fact it's not and wanted to make sure that you know you are aware that we have been talking with you about repairs for si dot and we're expecting those to you know happen, you know. little bit later on in the fall, but what you'll see is that you know there's some do laminating of the of the concrete and some exposed rebar and everything there are no safety concerns but. there's a bit of alarm that's been going up amongst some folks just want to make sure that you're you and the viewing public are aware that there are no safety concerns, and then the repairs are on the way. And the thanks hadn't heard of that. Is it mostly visible to people on the on like under underneath and on the ground or two drivers.
[204:00] So it's visible to people that are going on underneath it so whether or not you're like walking or driving. cars and how observant you are. each of you are observant and people talk to you, I just wanted to make sure that you were. There were no so thank you okay. All right, is that it for matters from staff. It is. I think, so all right we'll move on to Madison the board. there's any debriefing that we should be doing from the joint planning board and tab working session. Mark had tried to spur some interest in having a you know more formal comments to City Council since through some developments are great as that meeting was beginning is that, am I remembering these things right. I was a little addled because the news of. Mr acosta came in, while we were on that that meeting, so I think a bunch of us were maybe not attending particularly.
[205:01] To matters I did find, as I had mentioned at the end of that meeting, it was pretty interesting to see her very different perspectives that that to some extent it felt like there had been ships passing in the night with respect to. Thinking about transportation planning and concept plans and. and staff and Members of the planning board, they just didn't have the same kinds of perspectives that we did so I was really pleased that we had a joint session. um any other perspectives any input mark you're unmuted. None none other than what I said earlier, where. There was lots of discussion about jobs lots of discussion about housing. and very little about how either of those two things relate to climate change and greenhouse gas reduction and how. In the East boulder sub Community bland. You know the idea of having people live near where they work cheap, that means several things, but especially if you're in commuters you are less commuting overall and and some great benefits to to the Community, and so it, yes, it was interesting to have the distinction between.
[206:26] A majority of the planning board members and and tab and and even with our trying to focus on transportation. There was definitely a a lack of in my mind that acknowledgement of the relationship of the plan to reach our climate goals. And how how that how those things should mesh together. That was it. Thanks anyone else.
[207:02] All right, right we missed you. gap update. How did it go did you empty the pockets of SMP. You know, it was. We had a different representative from osb T. On this year, and so the the temperature was lower and the meeting was more productive, but I attribute that much more to the meeting was led this year by Joe data yuichi of the utilities department. Who. said essentially last year, there was a great fear that these these great assets were being kind of set adrift without leadership or management and. and Joe has stepped in and he was very careful to not just accept responsibility for the Green ways, but he acknowledged that a lack of directorship or management, and this is in no way to.
[208:20] diminish all the people that work on the green ways they just tend to do it as best they can, without. I think good concise guidance or or leadership Joe addressed that in the meeting he came to the meeting prepared and. And it put I think it put the green ways advisory committee members at ease that Oh, we have we have someone here because we were we were kind of on our own, with some. administrative staff help last year, but the lack of. High Level directorship was really apparent last year and this year that was addressed, and there was the main product of it was discussion.
[209:06] That we should meet more than once a year to approve a tip that we looked at the day before, and that these are important assets and that and, in fact, everyone agreed that we should meet more than once a year, so. So whoever is going to be the oh. I was just gonna say I think you just volunteered to do it. Alex gets to do all. they're gonna be there every other week now for. see the value in looking at a CFP a few times for you, though. yeah. All right, good we're now at open board comments anyone have any burning issues. Ryan.
[210:01] not sure where this goes. um. i'll just try it here, I was having. Some tooling around lately on my our cargo bike with small kids looking for places to park and you know sort of finding. continuously trying to find a good bike rack and it's you know, I was in a bungee find Park, and so this ramp sort of the storing up the ramp down triangle lines, and it really didn't work for the bike and I always just sort of asking. Some folks like hey what's the story here like, how do we who's in charge of the bike racks, how do we get you know more standard. To spec to spec bike racks that that cyclists, you know there's a there's kind of a framework for their bike racks to work well for actual cyclists and. Think super super admin committee seconds of mission oh yeah you know we actually given advice with city in this room, you know as while ago. There was a big purchase that sort of landed with a bunch of a bunch of these ones, but we haven't this is kind of a cold cold issue for some time, I don't know where things stand on this, but I just.
[211:06] wanted to make sure that if if there's any big purchases or ways we can influence good good bike rack good practices bike rack both look, you know locate the location of the bike racks to designing the bike racks the inflation, the bike racks and in a way that our. Our reflect modern bikes including cargo bikes electric bikes and our desire to have more bags. would love for us to have a chance to weigh in on that so maybe this is the future board meeting comment, but I just you know, on the on the side more topic our thought here is is. On the climate plan with the idea that we're going to we're going to create more bikes want to replace cars. Part of that is a low stress network, no, no question about that, but another part is creating a more frictionless travel experience for people. To have a sense when they get to the place they're going they're going to have a good place it's a good location and easy way to kick park the bike.
[212:02] kids or whatever, and then move on, so. This is it's not a small thing I think it's somebody who you know doesn't spend a lot of time and, like it sort of like what are you complaining about, but this is really one of those you know, one of a few things that actually doing quite a difference so um. I guess just register my comment that I think is important, and if there's any you know chance for us to help staff to or the staff to get this right away. So i'm not sure where your which bike racks they were because I. feel like the ones right by the playground, there are the you you racks so i'm not sure where the triangle ones are. Right now. And I couldn't get through to the plague good. yeah just East of the playground Oh, I never had a problem I gotta I don't have a cargo bike but I haven't been trailing. But there is, and I couldn't point you to wear, but there are. Like engineering standards for placement of bike racks for the city and those were what giving you these cycles referred to when they were. supposed to be installing them for businesses, but there are clearances there are spacing requirements is supposed to be on a concrete pad it's supposed to be inverted us.
[213:06] That engineering standard does exist somewhere in the city of boulder guidance it's not mandatory for private businesses and I don't know what the processes for getting different ones in the parks, but I the way you're describing I think does exist somewhere. So what I was gonna say i'm just very briefly, is that you'll have an excellent opportunity to weigh in on that what the design guidelines, and so you know that. The DCS update. Right. back. Go ahead. I was just going to concur with. You Ryan. And just add the one thing that i've had to experience as. A cargo bike the bike writer, is, I have to be very careful that I do not block disabled access there, there are there, I think there was a. brewing conflict between.
[214:01] Large bike parking. And and handicap ramp access and stuff. That as bikes are bigger longer heavier. trailers that. And I think cyclists many times are. Not cognizant. of how they might be. impeding disable access. To stores parks. etc. Our data exactly right and on first blush somebody might look at and say, well, what what are these gig at why, why do we want these big big bikes around, but if we go back to what Chris told us, which is 27% of our. Half ass forgot what the number is some large share of these multi activated vehicles driving around town our parents moving kids, this is the vehicle to replace those kids moving a few miles. And I will be one of those parents driving across the city in my bike starting next week for kindergartener my plan is take every single one of those trips in a bike. we'll see how it goes i'll report back, but, but you know, this is, this is the kind of kind of thing we should be really trying to encourage and so it's the design.
[215:07] construction standards is the right place to do it that's great that I did I do my my sort of. Thinking of this word for a manager standpoint, I just wanted to check it that's right because. You know there's a manner manner of what are the standards but there's also a matter of who's doing the procurement and then who's actually doing you know the implementation so. If that's right that's the place to focus let's do it, but it just strikes me that this feels like an issue that might get kind of lost in the actual implementation of it. Okay, do you have something to add. Is it Okay, if I if I could Erica was was on the right name there that it's a DCS item. There is a bike parking policy, there is an ordinance in place in the boulder revised Code for how and where and what type of bike racks are installed within the city. There are different entities that managed by parking with say in the downtown or in the parks and whatnot and so i'm happy to if to follow up with you Ryan.
[216:06] If needed to talk with you more about what's in place now, and some of those procurement questions you have and how we go about requesting. bike racks for parks and whatnot, so this is a one of my duties as bicycle planner so i'm happy to help in any way possible. Thank you DK and before you before you mute yourself. Okay, what what what happened in what's the plan with the bike counter that gut crumpled on 13th street. yeah that's really unfortunate that was. yeah of eco totem and it visibly but displayed, you know how many cyclists were traveling through that to go intersection. it's not repairable it was demolished, as you probably saw pictures of that now through social media and so we're waiting now to. To see if they're like the cars for the drivers insurance will cover the replacement or also you know, putting into question is that the best place to to have that ticker kind of counter there because it's been hit multiple times and.
[217:09] So, like what's the right kind of counter it's a great location for a counter but what's the right type of counter to put in that location continue counting bikes and if we have to do a replacement with the Eco tourism is there, another location that might be more suitable. Okay, all right we're still collecting data in the meantime, though right because the. The tracks in the road are still there is that right. yeah that's a really good question I don't know if the lead, so there is an electromagnetic loop that counts, you know the cyclist and feeds over to this little box that's you know underground and whatnot i'm not sure if. If, when that was demolished if if it affected the numbers i'll have to follow up with you on that one to. Okay, you know lost any data or not. Okay. Thank you.
[218:00] My burning issues. About. happy. Go ahead Alex. About a year ago I think a drunk driver took out the whittier South sign on walnut at 18 street and after it sat there for a couple of months, and eventually city crews removed is there is that something that gets replaced or is that just a relic loss to graphic violence. I will lead to follow up with you on that, because I remember asking bill Keller in that very self serving question, and he said it get back to me and I don't remember what the answer is. So i'll replicate them. Thank you. anybody else for open board comment. break future agenda items, so of course you saw at the end of devon's presentation, there were some highlights of future agenda stuff.
[219:01] To that I wanted to raise already raised in different contexts, this evening, and then just following up on something I had mentioned last month, was that Erica natalie and I have been continuing to refine and work on the like draft rules of procedure for tab. I have missed my own deadline of last week, so I owe them a little bit more work product, but it has nearly nearly done we just wanted to make sure that we let the city attorney's office. Have a look at it before disseminating it so my my plan is to stop procrastinating get that done and the next couple of days have it to the city attorney in plenty of time to circulate to you guys to to look at to read and we will discuss it next month. If I may, to just. guess you're overly harsh on yourself and your great. Working i'm a real procrastinator. And we greatly appreciated ability to work together on that, so thank you. Okay. that's nice of you, thank you.
[220:01] I did miss my own deadline it's okay. Anything else for future agenda. Items yes Ryan. Do a couple things just just kind of retracement we talked about today, so it sounds like climate. I don't know do we made a an actual next steps plan, but it's but it sounds like we're going to need to come back to this at some level on the climate plan on the next level of development. Right, yes, maybe that goes too fast to advise us i'm happy to meet yourself available for offline or you know small group if needed. So that's one another one is I don't think we I don't know if we raise this specifically, but I would just say like I hope we can make as a procedural matter if there's unfortunately another fatality or. serious injury, we have another way to kind of do what we did, today I forgive me freedoms for and that's that's all implied but. I just I think this was the right, the right thing to do, and then the third thing is in on back on a discussion on Chris I think Chris acknowledged a lot of the.
[221:08] A lot of in driving within the city schools in school school traffic parents driving the kids around school starts next week. I as a parent with kids going starting kindergarten I haven't really heard much on what school, like the tedium plan for schools. would love love to make sure that the parents are doing their most so are the schools during the most help parents make that all work. The trip tracker thing I tried to register that that's not really up yet so I know schools are busy I don't want to be too hard at school, but it does seem like it's some at some level, this is a pretty big Center of activity for our traffic and travel and. At some point, would love to follow begin with the schools and then like I taught for the school item, a few months back so I don't want to be overbearing but. Just seems like there's there's really something there with with with with schools that we should be following up on and making sure all the terms you're getting the best advice, how do you how do you add your back you can carpool cargo bikes on stuff.
[222:03] So ptsd did send an email a couple of days ago they got buried in my my stuff and I went back and looked carefully at a day looking specifically for some of that stuff they have some links to a new program about like setting up your own carpooling van pulling kind of system. And I think that a lot of it is that there has been some changeover with some of the bb St personnel working on this stuff and so there's going to be a bit of a learning curve this fall. But they have already started sending out some messaging. So go back and review that and I think stay tuned. yeah because Peter Hurst is no longer during the trip tracker so i'm not surprised it's a little slow to get started, and we don't know we won't know till tomorrow night right what. Whether master happening or distance like there's just so much up in the air right now they're starting to offer parents who are using buses to get to do their own travel and get reimbursed by the mile I have a few thoughts on that.
[223:01] So I think cove is not doing any any favors to that team, but you're you're right to be thinking about it and right to be not trying to step on toes at the moment. But I think you and I are going to be the ones really paying attention to this stuff and bugging them so thanks for that. Well, put, but we will not take any immediate action on that one how's that. Okay. mark. So i'm going to. i'm feeling repetitive here on my future agenda topic items, but i'm going to say it anyway, I have three i'd like to, and I also like the board it's like, mark you know we're not going to do that, just like let's just say that anyway, the. clay thong. presentation on boulders history, I think cab could benefit from that and I would like to see that on a future tab agenda that's one.
[224:06] And I don't know think progress or anything has been done, if someone was tasked me with contacting clay for a future thing, but I will leave it to our the agenda setters in in our chairman and vice chair, unless you want to test me with that. So, do we not touch on this not enclave i'm, in particular, but when Maria was here earlier, and we had sort of asked to have. Ryan, you of course you, you were the one driving it and I don't want to misquote you. But trying to raise the issue of equity and transportation as a concrete. discussion in the future that's one of the things I think that we had asked Maria to be thinking about and trying to come back to us with, and I think that what you've just raised mark would fit into that discussion. sure.
[225:00] Yes, of course, it fits into that discussion I. I think that. it's clays presentation and his his work product stands on its own, as a. As an interesting lesson in history and unintended consequences and could be an intro to a broad base intro to this ongoing discussion regarding regarding equity. Okay, I appreciate that and I will also confess the part of the reason, this has been put on hold is again my procrastination on. The operating agreement has a good player, whatever the rules procedure, because a good portion of the reason that we we even embarked on that project was being unsure what to do when some members of tab wanted to invite. You know other people and it's not the staff work plan and how do we shoehorn it and then what you know what are their guard rails for that kind of activity so you're right that's been on hold and it's on me.
[226:05] Good i'm. At our upcoming at our next meeting, I see that the pedestrian crossing topic will be will be discussed and something I have advocated for in the past and would. I would like us to discuss at the next meeting is rather than treating pedestrian crossings as something that gets done like. signal ization That is something that has greater a greater degree of Community involvement and Community support much more like the SMP then a signal ization decision that well the book says X number of cars, hence we do it, and this is how we do it.
[227:00] I think the Community could benefit from and would. When i'm in contact with the Community about their frustrations, whether for pedestrians and cyclists getting across. Our materials, I think, Community involvement in that decision making process would be a great thing, so I would like that to be part of our discussion at the next meeting. Okay, thank you. Okay number three. Number three okay i'm. At our last meeting. I think it was the last meeting broadway and really was discuss and I asked about a lessons learned. Exercise regarding broadway and really in that intersection and, as I remember it Erica agreed that that was something they were going to do, I offered to attend and I don't think that that.
[228:06] invitation was extended, but if the broadway and really lessons learned exercise has been concluded, I would like. It to either be discussed at a future tab meeting or at a minimum, I would like a I would appreciate. Any documentation that was produced from the lessons learned, I would like to have us all be able to share in those lessons so whether that's a future agenda topic, or just an information item that's passed on to the tab. I would like to see something of that product. Okay Eric do you have any response at the moment you don't have to. Now I just i'm so natalie was on point with that and leading that and she's out of the office, right now, so I don't know exactly what has happened with it, but certainly we can offer lessons learned or whatever what we've learned from that.
[229:10] that's what I need. To the extent I recall anything in addition to that, I think that we were because they were tied on the same tip grant funding and cycle, it was also tying, together with the bike the Multi is Kathy on street bike lane at Colorado and 28. So here's what I can say is that I think in just about every project we learn lessons and so maybe we can kind of like scoop all those things up and. You know, give context and it's like okay here are these projects, this is what we learned this is what we continue to do this is what we do different so I just don't know exactly where we're at and that debrief and so. I suspect mark's point is hoping that we don't have to really learn the same lessons each time.
[230:01] Yes, of course, of course, we learn if we're if we're all doing our job we all learn from our experiences, however, I think, on some projects warrant based on cost overruns design failures and. safety concerns I think some projects warrant a greater degree of attention than others, and this is one again the tab is welcome to tell me. drop it mark, this is not going to happen, but in in my way of my perception, this is one that warrants a serious lessons learned exercise and a and a written product. That would be my request.
[231:00] Okay. All mulato where we will will actually like frame that particular request against the draft Rules of Procedure and see how it holds up, and I think that's going to be a very useful. sort of filter to put these new you know proposed procedures through is that is that going to satisfy people. I think, right now, it would probably need the support of only one other tab Member to proceed with that and if it takes more than an hour of staff time Eric would have to approve it, I think that's. Maybe that's not a path that we want to go down but. thanks for that request I think that's going to be a useful exercise either for tab or. four lessons learned but either way it's it's a it's an interesting one thanks. It sounds like at the moment we don't have a commitment to take that anywhere. I agree with your assessment. Okay.
[232:02] So just for clarity ID are you talking about support from other tap numbers or from stuff. I believe I what I was trying to say as it sounds like I haven't received a commitment from you Erica that staff would be. Preparing some kind of you know, lessons learned and not just in a. Like hold that mental file, but in some sort of written down sort of process document that is either discuss with tab or just tab is informed of it. So, not all definitely you know share with you, I just I don't know what i'm, as I said, natalie was on point for that I don't know what format things either had or will have in the future so. I think that you know we can certainly. share with tab and you know, when you say a written form or whatever it's like we've got presentations got all kinds of things so well we'll definitely share that you know those learnings with you.
[233:10] Okay. I don't know if it's ringing the same bells with mark as it is with me, but for the folsom street protected bike lane. You can ask various members of staff like what what did we learn from that, what did we learn we shouldn't do what what was the problem there and we get 20 different answers if we asked 110 different people. And so maybe there's some value in having some kind of collective understanding of what went right what went wrong what go differently next time and Marcus suggesting broadway really have a test case for that kind of if i'm interpreting marks. Request correctly. yeah. I mean what I can say is i've heard you I. gotcha. Thank you, as I said, you didn't have to have any answer.
[234:00] anything further tab. Other than a motion to dismiss maybe. make a motion to dismiss. Ryan for the win make some motion to dismiss. I love muted. All right, all in favor shall we adjourn. Chris came back on camera just from his last cameo of the evening, thank you very much we appreciate you hanging out and not too bad people we were way behind and we're only eight minutes past good job catching up thanks all. Right, we will we will see you next time, and probably in between. Thanks. bye.