November 18, 2024 — Police Oversight Panel Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:02] Okay, thank you. Everyone. Thank you, Selena. And for monitoring the QA. And forgetting members here, just remember anything should be said out loud, and not to use a group chat, and we have minutes being taken by city staff. So welcome to public. We acknowledge the Arapaho, you and Cheyenne tribes, the traditional custodians on the land on which the police oversight panel and boulder police department operate to pay our respects to the elders, past and present. just a reminder to the panel members of our agreements made earlier at our retreat this year around the way we treat each other, and this business like to welcome the public any potential press to the meeting and welcome esteemed panel members. Thank you. Everyone for being here and acknowledge anything in the moment that was difficult this week, and that it may have been challenging. If there are members of the public, we have a. QA. Feature that you can use in zoom for small questions. If there's something you would like to

[1:03] say later, or something bigger, you can save that for the public comment section. And you can contact us outside of this meeting at police oversight panel. One word at Boulder, colorado.gov, and our website is Boulder, Colorado, Gov forward, slash services forward, slash police dash oversight. and our agenda and our meetings are also posted to our website as well. So first, st I would just like to have a approval of our minutes from last week. Everyone that's present. Okay, so I guess we just want to do a roll call. Haven't done that before, so could be no way do last things about last time, or give me a sec.

[2:02] Okay, so present, too. So then present, I'm present, Victor. Present, Jason. Present. Let's see here. No, here in Chico. I'm around. I'm kidding. The next item is approval of agenda. Yeah. So wait a second second and show of hands to approve the agenda. Okay, the next item is the approval of our minutes from last meeting

[3:07] any comments on that before we make the motion time to approve. 10 min of last minute, maybe, and a second. so I could just do it good. The next piece is, oh, yeah, I'm sorry. Anyone in favor of approving the meeting. Say, Hi! Or raise your hand. Everyone, Jason abstaining. Hey, Jason is abstaining.

[4:08] and next we will hear from the community outreach and engagement team. Hey? That would be me today chairing the committee and don't have as much of a report we met, and we just talked about project that they're working on. That involves all of us. 1st of all, I'm just curious, because I don't think we've ever talked about like. how do you all see community engagement in relation to our committee, because I think, rather than just throw things up and see what sticks in terms of that like, I'm a meeting with somebody at the city. The person you gave me we haven't met yet is person you send an email for. And so because they do a lot of community engagement things. So I'm trying to see if there's things that we could piggyback on. But I wanted to have a conversation with us to see

[5:09] what are your views around? Think about our panel and what we do and community engagement. How do you see it? Because what I really want to do is make sure that whatever I bring to us that it's connected to whatever interest you have. And so so I'd love to just hear a little bit from everybody, and thank you for taking notes. Just kind of what do you? What do you think about when you think about community engagement in relation to our lease panel in terms of who or topics? Or do we just piggyback with other groups? Should we do something on our own? So and again, I don't see it as something we're gonna do every month, but maybe once a quarter. So something that's really of value. So everybody's voice in the conversation who wants to start? Just jump on in.

[6:06] See what you got. You know we've been thinking about that for a little bit. I I think that for me, community engagement is both personal and on the panel. Oh, Job, like personally building relationships with community communities are particularly, you know, maybe have a tendency to encounter the police more often, for whatever reasons and so developing personal relationship, showing up at events and those communities, and

[7:00] and sharing the information that we have and talking to people about what the panel does. But also just talking and being there, it's it's again building relationship and building trust. And then also being present for the larger the public at large. But I think tabling is is important. Having community meetings where people can come and share what whatever they they feel about police and what they want from us 2, what they expect out of the payment account. And I know it's a lot of work like when you say it that way. But really, when you do it on a personal level as as you go places, I think that makes it a lot easier. So that's I'll stop here. Good question. Yeah, work away around the table. If you don't think that's okay, we'll stay with

[8:03] no. So of course I agree with what Megan just said. I do have a little bit of a a perspective here. We be recorded on this account several weeks ago. But we met with the community connectors. and and 1 1 of the things that I wanted to bring up to to the committee was that we we heard not unclear, but the the Hispanic community. Specifically the people with my. They all had several stories to share. Some of them were, you know, concerning things that specific situations that happened, and and also like the perspective that they are not necessarily customers of Ppd, so I I would love to be able to approach the connectors again, and and kind of follow up on that from a community engagement perspective. Because,

[9:08] I guess in in my again, this is my very personal opinion. We all know that we. We have not received complaints from the Hispanic community. And now I I can say for sure that there are things that we should be hearing and kind of setting our eyes on. And and there's a reason that that disconnect still exists. and my hope would be that this year we could make a plan to fill that gap. Which that's that. And and so that that's very, very specific kind of approach, knowing that we can do a lot. I mean, we can do everything. But if we can do one thing I think it will be, it will be very important, especially now with with the changes in our in our politics, I think.

[10:09] this will become a most like a more vulnerable community, and probably more most likely to engage. And I know that we, as a city, has an approach that is worth sharing. So, anyway, that's my. is there somebody or somebody's that I can touch base with, who's part of that community connector group? So he's the one that I can get connected. And I and I will say that the in general, the community connector were eager to connect, and some of them didn't know we existed. Yeah. So so I'm happy to support you if that's of help, and and I use Spanish, and it was great. We saw that because she spoke Spanish, so the entire thing was led in Spanish, which was wonderful, because the the conversation was very fluid, and people just were like

[11:06] eager to share because of that. So I'll just keep trying to get on it. Just cancel it and if I can just give you just 2 seconds. I know there's also like a group of connectors who are African American people, I think, know several of them, and so I would be interested also in in connecting with them. Good stuff. Know you're new, but you're not really new to the community. I think that that what an important role is is to purvey this notion of safety and cause. I went on this right around with the guy the other day. and just watching his approach. You know it was less. and I I think when, whenever that we all the citizens we ran into, you know there's this sort of

[12:04] standoffishness. What did I do wrong, or what did what? What are you looking for? And I think but then was pervade. Was this notion of safety while we're just here to see how you're doing, or because we? We went out on the on the be quite a bit, for up in North Poulder, which happens to be my neighborhood. and I I think that's important to for us as faces of the community to sort of reinforce that the cops aren't necessarily there to get you or catch you doing something wrong. We want to catch people doing something right? That's what this guy was doing. catching people doing good things, not necessarily bad things. And so I don't know. I. I agree that you know, with the change in political climate, and we're kind of in a little bubble here in Colorado.

[13:00] But at the same time people watch TV and people talk and people hear stories. And so what is it we can do to help? Maybe not alleviate those fears, but to reinforce the opposite of the fields. So here you talk about like how we communicate a balance where we acknowledge the issues because we're looking at cases every time we meet with. That's not everything that the police department expect. Okay, great Mr. Co-chair. I would say. Part of community engagement is Making sure that we continue to stay engaged within ourselves. So we're not 11 strangers. We have a lot of self work to do, and so to be able to make these hard decisions and talk to someone authentically. It's important that we have some relationships between ourselves. So whether it's the

[14:06] retreat or something like that just working that into the fabric of community engagement, I think, is also important education for the public, but also for the police. Right? They don't know what we do not. Every officer has had an encounter with us. so just making sure that there's a balance on both sides. Hopefully, part of this community engagement is increasing recruitment. The more we're out there, the more we're visible, and people have more questions. But recruitment is always in the back of my mind of like, what? Who's gonna who wants to do this work? Right? So at some way, we need to make this seem attractive, right? If we want to recruit. and on the other level we need to make it easier for panel members to engage. So if we could just plug and play a few events that'd be great. What I mean is, we just show up. do the thing, and leave we don't have to set anything up. We are not involved in any planning. You just tell me the time and place, and I'll give you 45 min of

[15:06] everything I know about the police panel. I would also say, like you did the community connectors event. We talked about. You do it once in a small group, and then we all show up. So next all 11 of us will meet the community connectors and say, Hey. we're we're actually we have some. We're interested in this. It's not just a 1 off right, so meet with a small group, and then I love to meet them as well. And the last part is. if we could track our hours. We tried it 3 years ago. But there's a city website where any volunteer for this, for the city can track their hours, and we tried to do it. It it became a task because we did so much work. But how much work are we really doing? Right? So if we have a way to track our hours. And like, Look, we're doing 200 HA year, and we only signed up for 80. But we're actually doing less. But

[16:01] it became a task to do it. So I'm not sure if it's appropriate to suggest again. But that's just an idea, and that's all I have. I I guess what I can say is that I I like the direct approach. When I I for example, this afternoon I was speaking with somebody who does expert points. and is from time to time in this area. And I just mentioned, hey, there's this thing. you know. If there's cases. If there's something. You see, you report anonymously. You don't know how to do all that. Just give me a call, and we'll I'll talk about how to do it. And and so that it's so. I I want people rather than them to to start with. Oh, I don't know if I should do this go to a website, maybe get lost? I'd rather have them call me up and say, I have this case. Now, what do I?

[17:00] And see if I can't help them to to report it, to figure out how best. But I think anonymous and and and personal is what I'm talking about smaller numbers, but maybe it's more effective. Well, I mean, it could be a combination of everything right. It's just any one way to do what we're talking about admin account. Yeah. 1st of all, when you speak with Edgar, he does the block parties in the summertime. So I think that fits in. you know, with the idea of like, we don't necessarily have to do a lot of promoting. You need to show up And then the people are already there coming out for a specific event. So that's something that I hope I hope to that we can do next year, both myself or the panel or together. I think just 1 1 thing that I've noticed this year is, you know, making sure that if it's an event that requires more than just one or 2 people showing up to, you know, speak or attend a meeting. That there's enough time to really plan it out and promote it. So being somewhat, you know, thinking in advance and being strategic. So that we're not scrambling

[18:25] is something that I think would be important. And I just wanted to follow up on Victor's discussion of hours tracking that was brought up to me several months ago by the the people who do the volunteer management for the city of Boulder, and at that time I was told that they're transitioning over to a completely new system that's supposed to happen sometime around the this, this change of the year. So hopefully, that's something that we can. Hopefully, it's not too onerous. But it seemed like it would make more sense to learn how to do it on the new system, not learn it on one system, and then, a few months later, have to change. I've been using blockify. It's a free app that you can use and just do your own tracking. Just to give you an idea of what

[19:12] use it for my projects, but I've also used it. I started with them so that might be like, if you're curious right now, occupy is is a pretty easy app to use. It's quick question, and then it will go into mine, too, for the tracking app, is it? What's the purpose, is it? For to make sure we're kind of the expected workload or well, one of the things that I would want to use that for, so that for for recruitment we would actually be able to give but if people are registers as volunteers, they get invited to different things, and I think they get some special offers. But the city just likes to know how many volunteer hours they're they're getting

[20:07] great. I get everything I had kind of on my mind. I think others already mentioned. So I'll just give you like. endorse some of those comments. love the idea to think about like the different goals of our engagement, spreading awareness. And just general education about panel, what we do, and maybe even more importantly, what we don't do like. There's a lot of confusion sometimes when big things pop up about what our role is and like what we have less control or influence over. that recruitment was a really great point. The more we're out in the community showing people who we are, what we're doing, the more I think people, we will attract us. Also, just the more general goal of like building trust and relationships, I think is super important. And I really love the idea to focus on communities that we're not hearing from. That's super important.

[21:02] Also piggybacking on existing to the events. I think that's great idea, super efficient. But also maybe make sure that we're going into community based events as well, not just city events that all kind of tend to attract the same groups. Yeah. Yeah. Do you mind going to the last line, because then you can just go right into your you bet. Also. I think you guys kind of covered everything. The only thing I would say, like, obviously like trying to get the the communities that are less represented is is awesome. But, like at the same time, don't forget to like get the like. Everybody like, I think if you spend you, you spend the time there, and it's like I've already done my my part. And who's gonna go do like with the what's the next? Who's gonna sit at Creek fest and do this? If you, if I've already spent my time trying to connect with this segment of the population. So I would. Just

[22:06] so you try to. That goes into what everybody else said, you know. Try to like the block parties and just make sure that all the big events are are covered as well. Just not the the targeted populations. We don't just segment ourselves so much that we miss out on the broader community there input as well. Can I ask a follow up questioning? Who's that? Victor was was mentioning the educational piece and and listen to public and to the police. Do you see that as a need as of now like that, we should also try to engage with their officers or patrol. I don't know. I don't know, because I would love to to get that sense. I mean, when we go to certain groups, you you kind of anticipate the the response at all. They didn't know you exist kind of thing. But I'm I'm wondering if if

[23:06] how-, how how much of a priority should it be to also outreach to to our partners? Because I think if it's based on how much time you wanna as the panel want to put into it. priority? No, but it definitely wouldn't hurt. We actually don't. I'm sorry. cool. We have that conversation, too, and not maybe, checking it to see Panel could present when they have their new recruits, just to let them get to know us and introduce ourselves to them so, and part of what I'll commit to do is when these come up, I'll quick check in with Alistair and Cheryl where he is. See what that thing so. But Chico. I don't have much to say, except that I'm in support of what everybody has said. Our role is to reinforce

[24:08] to the public that we have their back, or we have their sex. So in whatever form or fashion. the only thing I'm that I need to ask is sherry if you can guide me on this. The city does a newsletter right? How often I don't know. Is it possible that we can have a standing column in there where we report. Oh, whoop! I'm pleased to report, Chico, that great minds think alike. So in the the city twice a year puts out a print newsletter. and the the next. The next Newsletter is supposed to come out in either the last week of November or the 1st week of December, and Luna and Victor have a piece in that Newsletter.

[25:00] Excellent. Boy, but see it in picture autographs. Okay. Okay of 2. Actually. So here engagement thoughts. And then to share your event. I think I just wanna voice that the election feels like big deal, and not necessarily not. As for me personally, not as much at the like national level, but like how it is enabling white supremacist groups, especially here in Colorado. I think that's something that we should not be. Taking lightly. Couple weeks ago I I'm a part of this community. My partner dances with indigenous Mexican

[26:00] machine. Good answers to that case. Bye. Jimmy Chuntley, and they did have some folks who were like just like we don't know who they were, and it's it's hard to know but just like really kind of prowling the parking lot and staring at the dancing and so I just want to put it on people's radar that alright, it's real. I address that part and I think, as far as community outreach. I think of it as like more personal through personal relationships. That's kind of how I operate. Letting people know letting organizations that I'm a part of know. that I'm on it and what we do. And I'm really curious about this community connector. It's red. I would love to facilitate like a capsule practice with them, or

[27:04] figure out ways to warm up that connection a little bit more and get stories flowing. And I am planning to do a brief workshop on the topic of policing. It's a part of some training that I've been receiving at Naropa. and that's gonna be on December 7th at 7, and it won't be open to the public. I'm hoping to have it just be panel members and close people that we want to invite to be trust. But I think, since it's a public meeting like knowing that we're trying some like alternative alternative community engagement strategies. And maybe that will grow into something bigger, depending on like how successful it is.

[28:03] and pull up the 10 seconds inside shit. You sent that out to everybody I did. It's in your email, and Alistair confirmed that he could join. I think if anyone has folks who want to come who don't want to interact with Alistair? It would be totally appropriate to ask anyone to come or if you don't want him to come. I won't tell him that you said anything. And yeah, it's so. The workshop is based on the work of Joanna Macy, who has done a lot of like big ecological environmental grief work. But I also weave in a couple of other inspirations. And I'm adapting it to a police context, and it'll be kind of like

[29:06] we're sharing with each other stories. And we're just witnessing each other in our grief if we feel that we want to bring it. And yeah, I will have some mentors there. I have a few friends who are coming. And there are more details in your emails. About that. What would you like to see from the panel? Oh, yeah, yeah. Please come if you can. And yeah, if you have close ones who might be interested in coming, please invite them as well. How many people are you looking for in addition to the folks that you've already applied. Oh, yeah, I think I would cap it at 15 there's an Rsvp form.

[30:05] So please fill that out. It's with the email. yeah. And if we get to that cap and you send it in late, I'll let you know if if we're full It's it's it is here. 46. 0, I was also curious. If we could get funding to get it catered. That work. And how about. We talk about some. Okay, great. I think for this kind of work. It's really important to have food. Yeah, for people to just that's part of the yeah, yeah, I'll I'll work with my school to my the Neuropa chaplains will also be there as support. So

[31:06] yeah, the the university is supporting me in this endeavor, which is great. Any questions on this just something pop in my mind. May 1st is typically known as Law Day. And there's right. I I don't know all of the things, but there are things that happen at the courthouse that are supposedly a way to get people a little bit more involved understanding. So I was wondering if you know, maybe we could have have people at the courthouse on that same day, so that we, you know, just to have some exposure and that sort of thing. I don't know more about it. But okay, I'll I'll dig in that.

[32:08] There's things going on that are bringing people in. Then that's kind of like, easy for us, because people already did we go to Victor's plug and play? We just come in share something, and I think it's more of a sort of a well, I don't. I don't know. I'll learn more about it. Let me know. So yeah, if you all have ideas that come up throughout the year and have a contact person, I'm happy to follow up so that it's I don't want to make this burdensome. I want to make it impactful. So okay. anything else I just want to say thank you to there, for that's a lot of work that you're putting in. And so I appreciate that it's important work as well. So keep it need to do it. And you have to do more than one. Right? So you have, like 3 or 4 completed 3.

[33:13] Do you have a holder email yet? Or right now, so a message link in the time link your email. So I'm doing it right now. Okay. okay, that's all. Thank you for. And just wanna welcome, Alan, so welcome, Alan. Every speech, something about your stuff. anything you like to say. I know you, you know, Bill, personally. So no, I had

[34:06] just sort of 3, rd my deck of some other volunteering commitments. And so it was a good time Tim applied in with the city government again. I hadn't been involved with the city government, maybe since 2,005, 2,008 around in there, right? So I thought I'd give the good people of Boulder another shot. Well, I'm glad you jumped in. You've already done your ride along. So that's kind of commitment we need. Right? You're curious, actually, those are. I'll probably do it again. That was very eye opening for me. In fact, all criminals should probably do a ride along. So you get it to kind of a feel for

[35:03] an underlying message there, what's like? Well, thank you. The next item on our agenda is the Independent Monitor report. Yeah. It says sharing is not turned on. I can't see anybody now. I'm just looking at the ceiling. So the camera got shifted, or something. Oh, that's me! Thank you for that. I was staring at the at the ceiling.

[36:04] Because it's Then. okay, yeah. okay, the November 2,024 Boulder police oversight. Independent police monitors report. So since October, we've completed one full case file review. and there's 1 file still pending Bpd disposition, and we have 9 cases awaiting panel review. Looking at our completed cases. In the month of October we have MI. 2, 0 2, 4, dash 0, 1, 6.

[37:00] The complaint alleged that officer one did not arrest her ex. For domestic violence. The evidence established that officer, one conducted a thorough interview of the complaint of the complainant, located her ex and documented the investigation. The investigation include contradictory statements, and did not establish probable cause for the arrest of her ex. There were additional complaints, that she made, including that officers, told her that her ex has rights and that police need evidence to arrest somebody, and those were classified as community inquiries. The allegation against officer one was rule, one. Compliance with values, rules, and general orders, and did not comply with requirements of general order. 3, 1, 3, 2. I recommended that the allegation be not sustained, but still allow verbal coaching for the officer and the department agreed with that recommendation. MI. 2, 0, 2, 4, 0 3, 7, officer one responded to screaming at the downtown Rtv station, and countered the complainant who was smoking a marijuana joint. The officer informed the complainant that smoking was prohibited, and asked for his name.

[38:12] The complainant began packing his items and began to walk away. Officer one pushed complaint back onto the bench. When the complainant objected. Officer, one told him. I'll put my hands all over you. In response to the complainant's request for his name officer, one had complained, read it off of his nameplate. so there were allegations against Officer. One rule 6. Use of force pushed the complainant. The panel recommended that this allegation be exonerated, and the Department agreed. Another allegation was a rule for respect for others, spoke to complainant in a vulgar and or unprofessional manner. The panel recommended that officer one have this allegation be sustained with a 5 year written reprimand and coaching, and the department determined that the allegation was sustained, but instead issued a 1 year written reprimand and additional de-escalation training for that officer.

[39:07] The 3rd allegation rule one compliance with values, rules, and general orders. Customer service value did not provide his name. Upon request. the panel recommended, not sustained, and the department agreed. Mi. 2,024. One officers encountered complainant, sleeping in a hammock that was hanging over the creek. Complainant reported that he had set up last night, and Officer one issued complainants a ticket for overnight camping complainant refused to further engage with officers after receiving the ticket complainant denied camping overnight throughout the encounter officer. One stressed that his main concern was complainant. Safety due to the hammock strung over the creek. Officers then spoke with nearby campers, who appeared to share similar demographics to complainants, and issued them warnings to pack and leave the area. The 1st allegation was Rule file police authority and public trust issued a camping ticket to complainant. The Independent Police Monitor recommended that this allegation be exonerated in accordance with General Order 121. Section 8, and the department agreed.

[40:11] Second allegation rule one. But the officer issued warnings instead of tickets to 2 nearby campers. The Monitor recommended that this allegation be exonerated. General order 121, section 8, and the Department agreed. Mi. 2, 0, 2, 4, dash 0 4, 5, sergeant one conducted a traffic stop on a plaint, who was unable to produce proof of insurance. Upon learning that she was receiving a ticket complainant informed Sergeant one that she planned to file a complaint that she was discriminated, based on her gender and age. Previously, during their conversation, there was no reference made to her gender or age complainant has a lengthy multi-state history of making false statements in courts and other venues, and making frivolous complaints the allegation against Sergeant one was a rule, one

[41:02] allegation unbiased, policing that the that the sergeant discriminated against complainant, based on her gender age and retaliation. and the Independent police monitor recommended that that allegation be unfounded in accordance with general Order 121, section 8, and the department read. and the second allegation against the sergeant was rule, 5. Police authority and public trust issued a traffic ticket fun. and it was recommended that that be exonerated. General order 1, 20 dash, one, section 8, department degree. Mi. 2,024, 0 4, 9 officers responded to a report of assault and were conducting their investigation, including interviewing the victim. The complainant approached and began recording their conversation with the victim group, who identified the complainant as an associate of his assailant sergeant. One then instructed complainant to stay away from their investigation, and informed her that if she came closer she would be arrested for obstruction.

[42:06] Boulder revised Code 5, 5, 3, subsection B. And Colorado revised statute 18 dash 8, 104 provide different language about the distance from where a person can record a police investigation. The allegation against Sergeant One was a rule, 2. Conformance with laws. violated complainants, 1st Amendment right by instructing her to stay farther than 8 feet away. During a police investigation. The Independent police monitor recommended that this allegation be unfounded, and the Department also determined that it was unfounded. and the Monitor made additional comments that we received recently have received increased complaints that officers obstruct community members, ability to report officer interactions with other members of the public. The discrepancy between the relevant boulder and Colorado codes regarding allowable distance for recording contributes to potential confusion by Bp. Members.

[43:00] I requested that Bpd's legal advisor review this discrepancy and ensure that Bpd training complies with legal requirements. The older chief of police response was the Monitor noted that she would like the police legal advisor to review and provide training if applicable. Psu should share that direction with the legal advisor to review. and Mi. 2, 0 2, 4, 0 5, 7. Probationary police officer number one was observed striking another vehicle in the parking lot as he backed out. When advised that he struck another vehicle. Ppo. One denied it and drove away. This probationary police officer resigned from Vpd. Prior to this complaint being classified, the allegation was Rule one. Departing the scene, after being informed by a Bpd. Officer that he struck a parked vehicle. I recommended that this allegation be administratively closed, and the department agreed. and MI. 2, 0 2, 4, 0 6, 0 officer. One responded to noise complaints by an anonymous neighbor. Before engaging, he observed the noise level around the building.

[44:04] Barely any noise was captured on Officer one's body worn camera. He spoke with both parties, and advised the residents that they received noise complaints. Officer one also spoke with the reporting party, and acknowledged that there was noise, but it did not rise to the level of excessive, and unless the noise escalated it was not a police matter. The allegation against Officer one which was Rule one spoke dismissively to complainant. I recommended that that allegation be unfounded in accordance with general order 121, section 8. I also recommended verbal coaching both on options to address noise complaints, and providing improved customer service to community members. The department agreed. Deputy Chief agreed that Officer one should receive coaching on specifics of Boulder's 2 most commonly used noise ordinances. disrupting quiet enjoyment of home and unreasonable noise prohibited Mi. 2, 0, 2, 4, 0 6, 2 complaint provided extensive emails about problems she encountered with various entities

[45:04] in quotes. I would like to make a formal complaint against the people in Boulder, who have filed false reports against me, using the Dea's office and local police officers who are involved hacking my electronic devices, illegal audio and video surveillance harassment gang stalking attempted murder plot against me, false allegations against my reputation, and using the judicial system to benefit themselves illegally by filing fake reports against me with the Dea's office. despite repeated attempts to learn details about alleged misconduct by the officers. Complainant ultimately did not provide the requisite details to pursue an investigation. There's an allegation against an unknown officer. Rule for respect for others stalked and or harassed complaint. and I recommend in the department agreed to administratively close that complaint. and mi. 2,024, 0 6, 4 complainant provided a voicemail to Bpd. Stating he was being harassed by a Bpd officer who used applied physics and utilized websites to impact complainants, liver. Bpd. Contacted complainant's father, who advised that complainant is unhoused and makes drug-induced delusional statements. Bpd. Eventually contacted complainant and learned of his whereabouts before complainant reported he no longer wanted to talk. Bpd. Recontacted his father to provide information about complainants, new location.

[46:23] the allegation against an unknown officer that a rule for harass complainant. The Independent Police Monitor recommended, and the Department agreed that it should be closed administratively. Okay. Looking at the month of October, the Monitor classified classified 24 complaints of those 12 were misconduct. One was serious misconduct. There were 5 community inquiries, 4 community feedbacks and 2 cases were referred for the conflict facilitation process

[47:02] the Monitor observed 9 interviews. There were 0 critical incident, scene responses. The Monitor deemed 3 cases thorough and complete, and Bpd. Closed 9 cases regarding the docket of cases as of November 13, th there were 51 open cases. 31 of those cases have been classified, and 3 of them at the time were pending my classification, and Psu had 17 cases in preliminary investigation status. Looking at our 2,024 open case, update all open cases classified in q. 1 and Q, 2 are either in chain of command, review, or being prepped for panel review. Our oldest case which is under active investigation is MI. 2, 0 2, 4, dash 4, 6, and that was classified at the end of we have 3 cases that are waiting. Panel scheduling.

[48:02] Mi, 2, 0, 2, 4, dash 0, 1, 3, MI. 2, 0, 2, 4, dash 0, 2, 4, and we are scheduled this week to review mi. 2, 0 2, 4, dash 0 2, 8. And I spoke with Bpd. Today and regarding the fatal officer involved shooting from December. Their expectation is that case will be ready for panel review in early December. and some updates on some of the additional activities that I've been involved in in October. We talked earlier about the emergency response Connector meeting in early October. I attended a roll call briefing on de-escalation and verbal judo that happened. The most of the week that I was at may call but I learned that this refresher course was in serious part provided to the patrol officers, due to some panel recommendations and some conversations that came out of the

[49:12] de-escalating train de-escalation training. That panel members attended myself and Milen. In the week of October 13, th through the 17th we attended the National Association for the Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement Conference, and enjoyed learning a lot from our peers across the country, and came back with lots of ideas. And then co-chairs. Soledad, Victor and I presented before city council at a study session on October 24.th That is the end of my report. Unless people have questions. I don't have a question, but I do have a comment regarding the the case about the

[50:00] obstruction based on 8 feet versus the State law. So we previously have received training from the D's office to kind of not not go by the older municipal statute and go by the State statute specifically, because it doesn't have like a this 8 foot thing that's so isn't super helpful. So it's more like it. You can direct people to be in certain locations or certain distances as opposed to this very static distance, so that could be boom. If you're seeing more complaints like that, that could be part of it in terms of we're not really going off the Mini quota going by the State statute? Thank you. Was there a piece on student recruitment? It's Oh, oh, Chico, we see your hand.

[51:02] Yes, I'll take you back, Sherry. I'll take you back to am I? 2024, dash 0 4, 5. Maybe you can bring it up. Oh, it's I've got a trivial question, because May, maybe if you brought it up again, we shared on your screen. Then maybe I can point out what? What I'm trying to ask. Let me let me do something first, st and then I'll get it up.

[52:08] Oh, okay. Yes, so so my question is, and I think it's just for my education purposes here. The last part where it says the complainant has a lengthy multi-state history of making false statements in courts, and how would we know that? And the reason why, I ask that is. if I told this person we are bringing in external factors and facts, and she wasn't convicted in some other state or some other jurisdiction. Is that not gonna buy us our decisions. And if people know that if they've had issues elsewhere and we are gonna be bringing out issues like this that are unrelated.

[53:01] are they not going to be fearful of reporting anything to us? Those are interesting concerns. Chico. She filed multiple complaints. That brought us into there. There was a lot of work done by Psu and myself, and we had a lot of information to review, because of the very interesting circumstances of many complaints that that she made. That normally, we don't go into that deep of a dive. But it was more following some of the information that she provided with us. And in this instance, normally, this type of complaint I probably would not unfound on its face, but it seemed that it was appropriate, based on the information that was viewed in the body or camera, and a credibility assessment that it was able to reach a positive finding of unfounded and exonerated because of that information. But it's not something that normally we go seeking it. But again she she made many complaints. About different city departments and the police department, and the investigation was more extensive than

[54:18] Then our investigations normally go. Normally we don't go seeking out people's criminal histories or looking at their conduct in other state courts. Thank you for the clarification. I did want to say so. We are expecting to do student recruitment for Abigail, who will not be seeking another term. We've been working with with Cu, and are going to have things posted while going along with boards and commissions, posting but one thing that I also wanted to say is, if anyone is

[55:06] planning on signing on for another term, or seeking that chico or if anyone feels like the panel is something that they don't foresee fitting into their life in the next year to finish up their their term. This would be a really important time to tell me, because if one person is leaving who we weren't expecting, then we would probably be triggering another recruitment, and I'd want to do it at the same time. So please, you know, reach out to me if you are either plan wanting to see if you can serve another term, or if you are considering stepping down from the family. and certainly with student recruitment. You know, if you know of any students who you think would be great for the panel. There is a link on our website for people to sign up, so that when the recruitment goes live, I'll email all of them.

[56:03] And because it. It can be an undergraduate or a graduate student. Thank you. Well, now, we can take our mid evening break. Come back in about 5 min. Who are you there? Something? Are we ready? Welcome back everyone. I'll pass this off to Solada. Great cool. So next item in our agenda is final updates. I know we just wanna acknowledge that we have also guest speakers as a topic and ad hoc items. So we had in our agenda. And I think this is published in our website that we had say, Admin son as a guest speaker. Unfortunately, he's not gonna be able to join us tonight he might be still here.

[57:10] so we'll follow up and and see if he can join us. And in the next meeting. So okay, let's start with city council study session. And we can update people on that show you what this all? Yeah. Basically, when sat, well, we didn't sit, it was a virtual meeting, but did some education to the Council, and said, What do you want to learn? For you know? So it was good. We had a strong presentation. We look strong the last time we were in front of the panel wasn't the best. So this is our 1st time to present as a cohesive unit, and we really impress them with who we are, what we do. And we were all about business and it. It seemed like a good meeting for them to to kind of just check the temperature of what we're doing. And we have the annual report to present.

[58:06] So it looked pretty strong. It's okay. I think the word stability was used. And oh. I watched you all. Oh, all of it. I mean, not the whole City Council thing, but the study session with you 3. And but it's really yes, thank you so much. You presented us very, very well, and I really appreciated that. And I got to hear from some city Council members, too, that were very pleased with it. So just happy to report and thank you for the great job. You did stay here. Okay? Common questions. Well, I I just echo what Victor said. I think it was a great presentation.

[59:03] Share their educational presentation that is very intense, short, and precise, and concise. So it was good a lot of questions, I will say. Most of the questions were it felt coming out of curiosity, not out of judgment, which was very, very nice place to be in, so just adding that to the to the mix. so what was like a standout question that they asked about. Well, I will share, because I know that I gave the answer of providing that, as of from January 1st to October first, st that the complaints made by people who identify as Latino. we're 14 made up 14% of the of the complaints for that time period. So that was an answer to one of the questions I think it was regarding like how we're planning on doing outreach to some of the the communities that we're worried about being underserved, possibly over policed and maybe uninformed about this this process or not trusting

[60:17] also, when they heard that we didn't have any mental health counseling for watching all the videos that we watch. They were concerned about that. So they wanted to readdress that and provide us some support. Oh, yeah, that's a good point to share. I think that that the the the point that we made a couple of months ago about counseling for the final numbers was very well received. There was openness from the city manager in terms of kind of please look, follow up on this and and figure this out. So very, very yeah, that was very helpful to hear. A lot of I would say positive comments and and encouragement for the work we have seen. I think

[61:05] you know the changes that we were not heard of that much in terms of having issues or anything. So they were pleased to hear that we were functioning, working, that, you know. Basically, we had the ordinance, the bylaws, a bunch of cases we catch up on everything. So I think you know, it's overall. Very, very okay. Moving on upcoming vacancies and future commitments. I sort of did the upcoming vacancies already. I think it was Victor who wanted to talk about future commitments. I think we already addressed it kind of with that community engagement, conversation, and other things and thing, if people want to renew or continue perfect.

[62:00] Next ad hoc committees so know the new bylaws. basically got rid of the established committees, and then we have the opportunity to create committees, one of them being data project related and parameters. Then second possibility will be the 2025 annual report. and then regarding training. So I will let can talk about the annual report. So the ordinance actually says that the annual report is from the panel, with the assistance of the Monitor. That's not really how it worked this year. So my thoughts were that I still expect to do the the heavy lifting of the annual report. But I'd really like to get it out early in 2025. Consider just

[63:00] it could look very different than than it looked this time. I know that we will still have outstanding cases. So my thoughts were that then, once we finish the last 2,024 case that I would just send. create, basically like the the data from the entire year of 2,024. And just put that out as like an addendum or supplemental but basically, I'm hoping to have, you know, one or 2 panel members volunteer to work in like quarter one of 2025 to just knock out the oh, there it says 2025 annual report. That's wrong. The 2024 annual report so that we can get that out, you know, earlier in the year instead of in Q 3 like it was this time. so If anyone is interested in that. I would love to hear from you now, or hear that you have questions or thoughts.

[64:07] Question, yeah. What kind of oh, wow! Like, what? What would be the expectation of that? Well, helping to write some of it specifically from like the panel perspective. And for people who saw the annual report. It's it's just dense and beside, like there's there are some graphs that have some numbers and statistics. and a lot of it is the the case addendum. So since for all of 2024, all of our cases are up online, you know, the Independent Police Monitor report is up online. So it might just be referencing like, this is where you can go see them. I've seen some annual reports from some not for profits that I, you know. Sign up for your report. Yes, and then probably just 4 pages with some links so really like

[65:04] reimagining what would be helpful to a member of the community. That's not so daunting. And just yeah blocks text. So thinking of ways to make it interesting, one of the one of the takeaways from may call. That I also would like to do is, I think it was Seattle did with their public school students had an art competition for the cover of it. So I thought that might be an interesting way to try to segue community engagement, and, you know, have have some way to interact and get some interest from some of the young people in our community coming in at the school district. So really, are you sure you so the ask is q. 1 work on it and publish it within q 1. So end of q 1, or like, very early. So it's like, a.

[66:00] yeah, yeah, okay, I'm probably interested in helping reach out to you guys. I guess this will be a question, right? Like data project and parameters like, I know you. Oh, Tico, you have your right. Yeah, yes. So so I I was gonna take you back to the just a few. Remind me again, because in my mind I'm still not very clear on the new setup of hardware committees, and how we are going to be operating. So basically, the idea is that the the only standing committee that we will have is that we have right now is the community engagement and outreach meeting we don't have the other standing committees that we used to have like legacy committee, and I can remember the other one

[67:04] governance governance but the panel will be able to create ad hoc meetings according to the needs that we have at any given time. So, for example. Right now I would say that the work that Lisey and and you Tickle were doing on data and reporting that will for me qualify as an ad hoc committee, and you are working on that specifically rather than you know, like a. So I mean once that you're done with that like that committee will disappear until we have the next need. Does that make sense. Somewhat so. So the question I have a follow on question is, so, Lisa and I. We we carry on as if it's just the name change, but in terms of modus operandi. It's business. Yeah, it will, basically you. You will run your committee the way that you need to run it and adjust

[68:06] as you will need to to, you know, with the work you're doing, please. Yeah, I have a question about that. And I wonder if this is the same kind of maybe different interpretation that she go ahead. But I interpreted this when we talked about it. As a potential bylaw change to be like project based. So when the when the whole panel says, we really want to look at stops data, we want to do an analysis of stops data. Then we say, Okay, let's stand up an ad hoc committee for an analysis of stops data. And then that committee goes until that analysis is done. And then, when the next topic comes up, we say, Okay, we're going to do this analysis of I don't know complaints, data. Who wants to be a part of that? Is that different than what you all. It sounds like. You all are envisioning more of like a this year. We're gonna have a standing ad hoc data committee which feels no, okay, that's what I'm saying, like the needs that we have at any given time. So we are now like, it has a start and an end kind of based on one. Yeah.

[69:09] think that you're right. That's the definition. But I'm data being so important. I'm just wondering, like, I I could. I go back to the need for data for this panel and the need for data from probably someone who is not as busy as the person who is doing it also for the police, and also someone who can look at it from the panels perspective rather than And so again, I would like to ask if it would be possible to include in the budget, or to ask for the funds to have like at least the person who could work on data for us so that we can ask you know. So we can have access to someone. Because if we say, Oh, this case brings up a question that we need to have information on whatever. And then we have to dig all this information that's going to take a long time.

[70:14] because there's tons of data instead of digging it and sorting it. I mean, you can speak to that a lot better than I can. But whereas if we have a non like someone that works with the panel. hmm! And and I know we've talked about it, Sherry. If you said also that we could look into like maybe students who are, you know, working, and I don't know how that would work. I, personally would prefer to have a person even part time. But that would be working for this panel. and I think we need to replace the budget for that.

[71:01] that's my opinion. I'm not, you know, stating like we have to request the budget. But that that is my opinion about this. And I think it's really really important for us to have data. Yeah. And one thing that is, I mean, this addresses. Part of your issue is. as far as I know, Bpd hasn't put out their data for 2023 yet. So I think, once that comes out and we can see what the breadth of it is. I think that that would be a really good opportunity to see like. what do we want to learn more about? And why? Why is the reason why we haven't seen 2023 yet, is there is that normal? Or is that because that seems like very far? I I mean, I think, because of. I think Dr. Reinhart is the main person who's working on it, and he's too busy. He's too busy. Yeah, that's why that it's a good point.

[72:00] But like I said, I think that you know, when we get to see that and to see what form it looks like that it could spark lots of different potential areas that we want to look into deeper. Yeah, and that. And that's 1 thing. But it would be nice to have a person already there, like, okay, let's go. Let's do what the panel wants rather than wait. and then say, Oh, we want to look into that, and then wait again until we actually can look into it just to add to what you were saying. I think also, the point of the ad hoc committees is that we don't have, which has been kind of the case. 2 people working grace amounts of time to to kind of gather information and presenting to the panel. When I guess we can, we can split that work if you're tired of it. We don't have the same expertise, but I think there, there's there's way to kind of alleviate the

[73:00] below. So but I do think that's important. Yeah. So when you're talking about the data project, so that's basically just the police departments. frequencies of calls and all that kind of stuff, or what is you can do a number of things. What is the parameter of that present? You know the number of traffic stops and parking tickets and voice calls that cause. It seems to me I heard that the that the city is going through the 5 year planning process. and so I also know that the police department is Michael. The other departments have to provide their projected needs over the next 5 years, and this would be a good time to. I guess, have input into that process to remove them where you pardon me.

[74:02] Usually it's like about 5 years behind. On it. I went through 2 comprehensive plans in 5 in. In the time that I was on the planning board. And so this would be a good time. What I think for, because we're trying to get trying to decrease. to increase the or decrease the inputs and increase the outputs becoming more sustainable as police department. This might be a good time for us to have those conversations about. Okay, how can we become more sustainable in our? I know that. But but what we're trying to do is work ourselves. You know. I look at it as we're trying to work ourselves out of a job because the police department is suddenly so egalitarian, and the citizens are so aware of. Of. you know the processes and whatnot that that there it's it's in more balance. So as opposed to sitting around waiting for problems to arise. And I think that's kind of the metrics that the system has set up.

[75:10] How do we sort of work work with a community and interface with the police department, so that we are able to become more efficient in what the Department does, as well as how the community reacts to that. Think there's it's my personal opinion. But I think there's always going to be the need for oversight of police, just because by definition, yeah, I understand that. But at the same time, what can we do through this planning document? To at least try to raise the bar a little bit. you know, to me when I see these complaints those make about placeholders like what was going through their head when they get there. It's and so it's it's a sort of trying to figure out how we get ahead of it a little bit, because the whole city is not just doing police department. They're doing fire departments. They're doing streets, doing everything. And we're just one little niche on that. But

[76:06] it's something that's that's you know. You just can't buy $20 with the police protection, right? Or $10 with the fire department. You have to every everybody chips into it equal. And so I think this is a good chance for us to do the I could do more citizen Gate citizen engagement, particularly during this planning process. But I I'm sorry I'm I'm having a hard time calling. But I'm really tired. So I saw were you talking about data in particular? I'm talking about data because the police department through this planning process. You know, all the departments go to the planning board, and they have these big presentations for hours at a time. Right? And so, how? How would we use data like, how does that enter into the way the panel is looking at data?

[77:05] Well, I think that's the question is there, do we want to have primary input into this massive, comprehensive plan for the community with regards to one of the. you know, important citizen contact points. Because you know the water Department. you know, they don't have a water department oversight Committee and the Transportation Department doesn't have a transportation department oversight committee. Right? Please. Yeah, I just briefly going back to the data questions. I'm with you. I think it's it's interesting. Knowing that that's going on. I hadn't heard that? The 2023 data you mentioned is that a public release that we're talking about or a release to us? What is coming? My understanding is that it's supposed to be a 20, that it's supposed to be a public release. So this is like the 2023 data set that is already available online for other years. This is like

[78:00] calls for service. I am going to be very excited to see what it is. Okay, yeah, it'd be helpful, maybe to know. But I'll look at what's what's in there so far. Chico. I see your hand. Yes, and now that I've a bit of clarity on how these whole ad hoc committees are gonna function. Looking at the projects. And and I know for a fact now that the way we'll be proceeding will be project based. So so I I think. with what Lisa and I started. We, we need to wrap that up and maybe sherry. If we organize one or 2 meetings with a view of maybe Jan, sometime January, because we're going into holiday season. January. We wrap it up and and move on to other things. please. You may have something there to say, because you already started with the dashboard. I think we are.

[79:05] We're almost there right. Yeah, I mean, I think we sort of where we were was. here's a look at the data and a way to browse it. If anyone wants to browse and come back with more questions or areas where we want to dig deeper, come on back, and we haven't heard anything. So I think it seems like panel interest is probably in other areas for priorities. so I think we can move ahead with those. It seems like stops. Data was the big area of interest. But we're waiting on that. There was some reason we couldn't. Okay, that feels like the the area that people are most interested in. So perhaps we wait. Do we have any idea, timeline, on that? So Lucy and Chico? May I ask something? I mean it will be super valuable, because I know that you have been immersed in data for a couple of months. and and I'm sure there are things that you were able to see or identify that we missed

[80:05] so kind of. As you wrap up to say, it will be very interesting to follow up with this couple of things that we found that might have been interesting or not. But it will be better recommendation and things, maybe. that that we can keep looking at, as you see things that we haven't as you love them. We could do that. We can go on, Lizzy. I think if you envision, like universe of Bpd data as like a desert, and like the little part that we looked at as like a little cup of sand like I. I don't think we can make huge well, general insights from it because of how we requested the data, and specifically what we got like, how the data set was crafted. That was based on a lot of learning we did along the way, and exploration with Dr. Reinhardt about like, how are things defined? What kind of data do we need if we want to answer certain types of questions like, we learned a lot about how

[81:12] Bp data structure. So what we got did not answer some of the big questions I think we would want to answer with that type of data looking at calls to schools. Maybe most primarily the sort of geographic we used like a 1 block radius to get to gather data relating to schools which is pretty broad, and that includes a lot that doesn't have to do with schools. So I'd be hesitant. Given the data set to like pull too much out of it. That was definitive. But we'll take a look as kind of like a final conclusion. And we can give you guys kind of an overview that works. I was thinking, maybe you can identify the mix. But. Yes. Think the next one Sam, is like over here. It's not.

[82:04] If maybe if we're doing like once 4 at a time of data that we can explore and maybe say, Okay, we. We look at that. It will be interesting to look at this one, and then from them we go to the other one. But I think on this ocean of this, this particular project came out of like the previous iteration of the data committee. So it was sort of like, followed it through, but it was based on like some specific areas of interest that we wanted to explore. I would think of it as like a little pilot. So I'll I'll just echo what Lizzie has said, and maybe one of the things we could do as we wrap up as she said. We may not have a definitive answers to some of the questions that we thought would ask. but but maybe this would can be used as a springboard. Maybe, as we meet with the community as part of our community engagement to garner some

[83:03] further questions of what the community feels about this kind of topic. Yeah. And we build from there. Sounds, great. Yeah. Okay, that's more. In the agenda next. Training, Victor, you had something that was mine. So I think last year, when we did the the onboarding training and the annual training. One thing that I noticed from Epd bringing in their training and the legal department bringing in their training was, it felt like a lot of it was redundant. And then there were spots that got what we went over really quickly, that we could probably flush out more and have more interest in that. so sort of the same same request as the to work on the annual report like a. q. 1 project of like, let's figure out how to make this training as useful as possible, both like the official training that needs to be done, and just some of the technical onboarding of the administrative tasks

[84:13] and that sort of thing. So Victor had said that he was interested in working with me on that, and seeing if anyone else would be interested in taking a taking a hand and identifying training needs and trying to tailor that for for the panel, for, like the next year. even work on training. Send me an email. Okay? But quick question on that, do we do? We still have Sarah as a consultant for possible whatever. or she's making the pamphlet for us. And think that's the last thing right. Did you remember pamphlets in January? There's a couple of more things. Maybe the is then case review manual.

[85:06] Right? So that's 1 thing. But I don't know if she will be involved in any type of training, or that's on the table. That would be on the table. Okay, okay, just wanted to make sure that it's not just. I mean, they will have that. Okay, okay, cool. So then, Victor and Bill, we're going to help out with training. Great, amazing help with that, too. All right, that's great. I just had something pop into my head next we have December 16th for meeting with the Chief. So apparently, I mean, after looking at at the emails coming back and forth. I will join it online. Then I think that's a great question. I think that's the question, are we good of doing that meeting online

[86:05] with everyone I have to say, yes, I'm gonna be here soon. Okay, cool. So, Selena, we're good. How do you see? Okay. So according to our new order of business in the agenda we have public comment. Do we have any one from the public? Nope, there's okay. So again following the new guidance, we are now ready to go into closed session. so we will be there for 30 min, and then we can come back to regular business to do the voting on cases, and then, you know, wrap up so.

[87:00] thank you. Are you waiting, or are you waiting? It's up to you guys, I guess I don't know. I mean whatever. There's no point in cases afterwards. Sure, you want to go full. Okay, see you next one. And it's 20 min. So, oh. oh, 6, 3. Yeah. Okay. Then. okay, was that we're back. Okay, I'm gonna switch to my phone for the voting. Okay, thank you, Victor.

[88:08] Okay, let's so we're back in 2 open. Session, and we're gonna proceed with voting. On the cases we just talked about. Okay, show on Sm, 2024, dash 0 0 4. Yeah. Vote. So I'm gonna start there. Luna. Yes, you see. Yes, yes, Jason. Yes, Adam, yes. so let me just yes, Chico.

[89:02] Yes. A, b. AB: Yes. Take care is, oh, okay. okay, cool on. Wait, Victor. You see, there's this person that has the bu. But I don't know if it's a okay. Let's say, just a moment. Yeah, let's see what it is. Oh, my gosh! Is that big? Is that you, Victor Victor? Is that you be? You.

[90:03] Vu: Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, cool so we just voted, we're missing you. And the 1st case, 0 0 4. Vu: No. Okay, they will have record of that. Yep. Moving up MI. 2024, dash 0 6, 5. Luna. Yes, yes, Abigail. Yes, Jason. Yes, Alan, yes, I say yes, Milan. Yes, Bill Chico. No. A, b. AB: Yes. Victor Victor

[91:02] Victor. AB: Okay, we can do upstairs, I guess. Okay. And am I? 2024, 0 6, 6? No, Luna, no, Jason, no, Alan, no, I said, no, Milan. No, it's Bill Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: Is this 6, 6, or 6, 7. 6, 6. Vu: No. Okay, MI. 2024. Dash. Oh, 6, 7. Luna. No, you see. No. Abigail. Yes, Jason. Yes, Alan, yes. So let yes, Milan. Yes, Bill.

[92:03] Yes. Chico. Yes. A, b. AB: Yes. Victor. It's good. Vu: Yes. Okay. Next case MI. 2024, dash 0 6, 8. Lona. Yes, yes, Abigail. Yes, Jason. Yes, Alan, yes. So let yes, Milan. Yes, Bill. Yes. Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: No. Okay. Next case MI. 2024, 0 6, 9.

[93:01] Luna. No, Lucy, no, Abigail, no, no. Alan, no, no Milan, no Bill, no Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: No. Okay. Am I. 2024, 0 7, 0. No busy, no abio, no, Jason, no, Alan, no, no, Milan, no bill. Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: No. Okay. Am I? 2024. AB: Dash 0, 7, 1. Luna. Yes, yes, Abigail. Yes, Jason. No other. No.

[94:07] Yes, Milan. Yes, Bill. Yeah. Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: Yes. MI. 2024, 0 7, 2. Luna snow. Is he? No Abigail? No Jason, no Alan, no, no Milan, no Bill, no Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: No. Okay. Mi. 2024, 0 7, 3. Luna. No, no, Abigail, no Jason, no, Alan, no, no Milan, no bill.

[95:04] Chico. No. AB: Maybe no. Victor. Vu: No. Okay. Next case MI. 2024, dash 0 7, 4. You see. No, Abigail, no, Jason, no, Alan, no, I say no, Milan, no bill. Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: No. Next case, MI. 2024, 0 75. Luna. No. Lucy, no Abigail, no Jason, no Adam, no, no Milan, no Bill, Chico. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor.

[96:00] Vu: No. Okay. Next case, MI. 2024, 0 76. Luna. Busy. Yes, there we go. Yes. Jason. Yes, Alan, yes, yes, Milan. Yes, Bill Tico. Yes. A, b. AB: Yes. Victor. Vu: Yes. Thank you. Last one. Am I? 2024, 0 7, 7. Luna. No, Lucy, no abio, no, Jason, no, Alan, no, I say no Milan, no bill, no tickle. No. A, b. AB: No. Victor. Vu: No. And those are the cases for today assignments. So I think. But I'm hoping Selina can confirm.

[97:07] Okay, that I think I have The serious misconduct case, and then 0 6, 5, yes, 0 6, 7, yes, 0 6, 8, yes, 0 7, 6, yes. and 0 7, 1. Oh, sure enough here. Okay. it's great volunteers. Are you asking? I'm not asking. I'm asking. Okay, I'm going for it. So who wants to volunteer for reviewing? 0 0 4, Jason for existing. We are. Oh, we already have an existing. If other people want to put themselves on that, please.

[98:06] Jason, I would like to. But yeah. perfect. Next, please, then am I. 2024, 0 6, 5 volunteers, Jason Luna, Millab. AB: A, b. And a B, perfect. Okay, for reviewing. Case mi, 2024, 0, 6, 7. Put me one on that. Okay. Chico Melan. You, too, Bill.

[99:04] Okay. 0 68. Luna Abigail, Lucy. AB: Okay. 0 71. Okay. Vu: Volunteer. So, Victor Abigail. did you get it? Yeah, Soledad, Victor and Abigail and Abigail, that's my right. Now. Okay? And last 1 0 76 volunteers resy. Me, down.

[100:02] Pico, you said, Yeah, you. AB: Yes, and. Okay. AB: I said it as well. Okay. 8. So we have Abigail Bill, Chico and page. Vu: Hello! Vu: How was your meeting. Okay. Vu: So sorry. No, they're fine. You're on on microphone open. Okay? So thank you. Everyone. We have the assignment of the cases. And with that we need a motion to adjourn. I motion to adjourn down there. By, your.

[101:00] That's so fun. And I was like, Oh, okay, Abigail, Lizzie.