August 26, 2025 — Human Relations Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:07] Okay, we are live, it is August 26th, 6.05 p.m. This is the August Human Relations Commission meeting. Thank you all for joining us. Just as a reminder, we have an interpretation service for folks who would like to listen or participate in tonight's meeting. If you can, just… navigate to the bottom part of your screen, you'll see a… a little globe. icon. Click on the globe, and you'll see English and Spanish, and you can choose the language. That you would like to listen in on tonight's meeting. Bienvenidos a todos esta es la reunion del Comision de Relaciones Humanos de la Ciura de Boulder. Primabos un servicio de interpretacion.

[1:02] Barrett. Todos? … Let's see… Pue ver en la parte abajo de su pantalla, hay un globo mundial. Puede hacer un click en el globo mundial, y pued ver las dosediamas que… Ofrecemos esta noche espanol y ingles. Puede escoger la rioma que quierre escucharra estu es reunion. Y con esto paso la palabra a Carlos. Bueno meches a todos. Entonces vamos comienzo a nuestra reunion de… Via gusto, son las ais con siete del 25. Pasamos a nuestro primer punto que son agustes en la agenda.

[2:01] Ally and DNA? Alborn… Punto que quiera. Incluiro cambiar. Bueno, entonces seguimos. Vamos a probar las minutas de el mes pasado. Para esto, necesitamos una emocion. I move to approve the minutes from last month. A second. Okay, entonces, vamos a votar, levanten humano, di gan hay. Perfecto. Gracias. Entonces, les minutas del mes pasado en sido a probatas, Cristian. Gracias. Y pasamos al punto numero tres que es…

[3:04] son comentarios abiertos por parte de la comunidad. Tesado la palabra Cristian. And it does not look like we have any… members of… The community joining us tonight. So we can just keep moving right along, Carlos? Gracias, Christian. Nuestro opunto siguientes son… Unos de accion, pero. Creo que no tenemos ninguno. Entonces, vamos a nuestro punto principal. Excucion, que es el… Retiro del consejo. Yes, and so, you may all remember at our last meeting, we discussed, briefly.

[4:08] the retreat, for this commission that typically happens in August. Due to, sort of, everybody's schedule, … we decided last meeting to push it back to late October. I have October 25th, which is a Saturday. From 9am to… 12 PM earmarked, but please correct me if I'm wrong. And then as… follow-up from… last meeting. For all of us was to, just brainstorm some ideas around What we would like to, discuss, or what we would like to accomplish with our, time together. For the retreat. …

[5:05] It looks like… So… 10 to 1… … Emily's thinking it was… we had it… Slotted for 10 a.m. to 1PM, does that sound correct? I recall talking about something like that, and that sounds good to me. Public… I don't know, brunchy or grazing. Grazing food. I'm a big brunch fan, you know. Sorry, Elizabeth. I will… I will speak things out loud. I wrote in the chat. I thought we had it over brunch, like, 10 to 1 or something like that, but maybe not. Yep, and it sounds like that is other folks' memories as well, so I can… no problem, we'll just adjust that. As a….

[6:08] Yo, estoy de acuerdo si… un problem problema. No se… ustedes, Christiane Elizabeth. My only thought, and we'll touch on this later, is that we'll have two new commissioners. Who we haven't connected with yet about the meeting date, and so…. Selected yet? They have. I think Christian's got that on the agenda for the staff update, but we can say now. And so it… It probably makes sense to just identify a second date, or we can just hold on that until we hear from them. If they can't make it on that, Saturday, then…

[7:02] Then I'll get back to you. What Saturday were we talking about? Sorry, I missed it. October 25th. Okay. Oh, right, right, I remember. last Saturday in October, And yes, in case, … just share this piece, since it is a little bit applicable. We did… Their city council selected two applicants From the second round of recruitment. So we will be joined by Jorge Martinez and Mindy Miller. And I was in… Mindy's interview, I was not able to join Jorge's, so I wasn't able to, meet him. Virtually face-to-face. But Mindy was able to. If it makes sense, I can reach out to them.

[8:03] And say, we are planning… we were planning on this time. this date, and see if that works with them first, and then if so, just confirm with you all, and then if not, we can identify a second date. Does that sound good? Yep. Okay. And in terms of discussion, will the two new folks have met with you, Elizabeth? Only assuming, Christian, that you're on parental leave. Will they have met with you before this, … retreat, or will this be, like, their first interaction with HRC? Good question. It's reasonable to expect that, I mean, maybe the stars will align, and Christian will be able to kind of get to this with their schedules before he goes on leave, but either way, one of us will meet with them and make sure they have

[9:15] you know, the handbook and other kind of core materials, but it will be the first time, you know, maybe with the… I mean, with the exception of the, meeting with Council, but their first kind of time to actually spend time getting to know you all. So I'm not sure if you were heading in this direction or not, Emily, but it probably makes sense to do at least some. kind of basic orientation, reminders, kind of grounding as a group that would benefit them. But they'll already have been through the nuts and bolts. Yeah, that's helpful, Elizabeth. … I don't, unfortunately, have a great structure idea for this, and I think it would be helpful even just to get to know you, Carlos and Aaron, better, in addition to Jorge and Mindy, some…

[10:13] icebreaker… Type… team… team bonding. Team building, as well. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, so… I can say… I… Our, like, documentation on previous, retreats is… a little light, but what I can say is that, each one that I can see, like, agendas for, or meeting notes for, does include a decent chunk of time, for commissioners to… Kind of just be together, connect on a… personal level.

[11:04] So an icebreaker activity, get-to-know-you activity. I would say is definitely something that… especially with new members, would be… I could definitely see benefit for, so, we can… For sure, incorporate that into a retreat. And then I'm also hearing, as well, … maybe some… light, or… brief… Just kind of, like, grounding. me ocurre… que podemos hacer… como laquisimos con… con aron. Este dia este… No estuvo Emily, namos estudo Aron, estuvo este Elizabeth, estuvo Korth, estuo Yo. Que estuvimos ahi a un lado del oficina en el casia elaboria del Rio.

[12:02] A ser al casi conocera los este… I don't know, it was… Comisionados. Y pues. podre el algo. No se que… que les parece. Are you thinking, Carlos, this would be something in addition to the retreat, or at the retreat itself? Podemos… podemos hacer la antes del retro. Nonce? Pisadas este para la reneion de septiembre, en lugar de tener la reunion ser un… Un este, asi un convivio pequeno y conocera los nuevos comision. Y a despuesa retirlo en Octobre.

[13:02] No se. Que pianza en ustedes. I love that idea, Carlos. I think that would be a really good use of our… time, and I… if you all are… open, I am happy to, like, think more deeply on a team-building exercise. I still… I think, I did really appreciate meeting you all in that casual setting, and, I still have so much curiosity about you, I don't know much about either of you. … So, would love to… If you all are open to put a little bit more structure to something like that, so that we could get to know each other in a deeper way. Yeah, that sounds really great to me, and I'd be more than happy to support with that as well. Fair enough.

[14:00] just stating the obvious, that if you have a meeting with the new, commissioners in September, Christian would not be there. I could make sure, we have some other staff support for that, but…. Yeah, we would definitely… your presence would be missed, Christian, and I… I do think it would be really nice to have some time with the new commissioners before the… before we, like, get down to business for the retreat. The… the retreat that might be named otherwise a non-retreat…. So, just some clarification for… for me. So the, suggestion is that you… or the decision is that you would like to have a non-meeting gathering with the new commissioners, so there would not be any Business on the agenda, just, …

[15:03] Yeah, there's a way to do that. We'll check with Roberto again. It's legit, but just need to make sure it's not a meeting. … And then the retreat, … would also include, or I'm assuming, but just clarifying, would also include an icebreaker type activity, and Emily and Erin, you both volunteered to kind of help put something together for that. I'm… I'm happy to help with that on the retreat as well, I was volunteering for the…. Gotcha. None… non-meeting. Gotcha, okay. And I'll let you drive that ship, Emily, and just, like, let me know any way you wanna… want my support with that. I guess Carlos and Aaron, is there anything…

[16:01] Any, like, content or structure that… that is… Particularly, like, curious to you all that… That you want me to know about, to consider in the development of those activities. No. No, a mi no se me a corre nada, pero si tu tienes algoenmente. Adelante? Okay, thanks. In terms of… logistics, so I can try to… get this, at least scheduled before I'm… Although, I will also miss you all. … we… At the last meeting, had voted to… shift. typical meeting night to the third Monday of each month. Do you want me to…

[17:03] since that would have been, or would be when we would have our September meeting, do you want me just to start with that date and see if it works for… The two new folks. Sounds good. So I will just, … check availability, and… want to keep the 6? 6 o'clock hour, or move it up earlier. Fix is fine. I'm seeing head nods. Carlos, 6 work for you? See? El tercer lunes de el mes de septiembre des el y 15, no.

[18:03] Grill. Yes, sir. Mr. Para mi esta bien. Wonderful. Okay, so we pivoted a little bit. Back to the agenda… the actual… Retreat that will be named Retreat, or however we'd like to label that. … So, we have datetime, and we would like to have some team-building icebreaker activity. Component to that meeting, in terms of… focus, or… discussion, Goals or outcomes that we'd be looking for from that. meeting, I'm… Curious to hear folks' thoughts on those.

[19:06] Yo estaba pensando en la idea que Dio Elizabeth para construir un equipo otra urgente externa. Como lo hicimos una vez… Yeah, it's the Elizabeth? No se que pienzan los demas. bring in someone, Carlos, for, like, the team-building exercise, bring in someone… I think last time we might have… we started talking about, like, bringing in a facilitator who might be able to, like. help us with idea generation? What… I'm curious more of what you mean, Carlos. de como vamos a trabajar, como vamos a… generar este…

[20:07] O llevar nuestra este… nuestras reuniones. Tambien tenemos que ir pensando en que tenemos que nombrar una… Un nuevo este… Presidente de la Comision. Si un vice presidente. Y pues. Hay mucho, hay muchas cosas que… que tenemos que realizar y… Y pues alguien que… que venga y nos de ideas, o nos de este… I'll go. I'll go para. Para nosotros… Tener este nuestras bases de como vamos auva. A trabajar todos juntos. Yeah. I'm, like, uncertain whether we necessarily need, like, a trained facilitator. I kind of, like, think that if we come in with the clear questions, like, that we need to be asking, such as, like, how do we want to do leadership, where do we want to be going, I think if we, like, give ourselves, like.

[21:14] some time to really, like, dive into those questions, then we can totally do it. And if we need, like, I have plenty of experience facilitating those kind of conversations, and I'm, like, more than happy to… to, like, play that role, in whatever way we want. But I also think we can kind of, like. Come together and, like, ask those questions, and it will emerge. We just need the right structure to do so. I would just offer, just kind of addressing Carlos' question, that, One of the primary functions of a retreat is to focus on your work plan for the next year, and…

[22:00] For you all, potentially, if you want, and certainly for the new members, if it's helpful, that can include, … just some basic, you know, framework and background. I mean, Christian and I can kick that off if it's helpful, just to say, here's… Here's what work plans tend to involve. Here, again, I think a couple of meetings ago, we kind of talked about Wanting to revisit whether or not your work plan kind of lives in the spreadsheet, which Carlos will recall, we kind of developed on HRC commission members' kind of guidance and request, but maybe… maybe that's not the format or method that you want to use moving forward, so… I think it probably makes sense to have an agenda item that's just focused on You know, in that kind of umbrella, or the… bucket, …

[23:00] around a work plan, I think, you know, Christian and I would be happy to just provide a little bit of a presentation and framework to get… get you going with that conversation. There also may be some… Ideas that you will have yourselves after the meeting with, council members earlier, you know, prior to that, so…. Do we have a date for that yet? Yes. I guess that might…. You might have updates as well. I wonder, per your two comments, Carlos and Aaron, if… we might spend some time in this meeting, since I think we have some time to… generate some discussion questions together? Does that feel like a useful use of our time? Yeah, I think coming up with a few discussion questions. So, Elizabeth and Christian, …

[24:03] I… I think that bit of history may be helpful about work plans, and just if there's, like. Christian, I think maybe last year at our retreat, you did, like, an update on… some numbers, maybe? Like, or, like, a short PowerPoint? I don't know, that… like, something just to level set that we all… Roberto also did a presentation, I thought that was helpful. I want to make sure that, like, the new members especially are coming in with, like. As much information as they can, so that they can be active participants in the conversation as well. … So for, like, a f- 3-hour retreat, if, like. there was half an hour to 45 minutes of, like, content, I guess I would be kind of fine with that, and then another hour and a half or so of discussion.

[25:04] That's getting more into the process, though. Maybe we just go back to the… back to the questions, … One of the questions that I would like to… discuss with you all is how to support more public input in our work. … So I would like to, like, explore ways to… More actively engage with different air… different… Sub-communities in our community, so that we are… not only… Responding to people who find us. Also, like, proactively understanding community issues that are… Obviously, we all have our own, different and overlapping

[26:02] communities that we're involved in in Boulder, and yeah, I guess I have curiosity over, like, being more agentive, more proactive. In seeking input in our work. So that's one question I would like to put on the… like, just having a discussion of, like, how does… how does our work even get to us? And then what do we do with it once… once we get it? So that… that could maybe be… be a flow of discussion. Totally. Yeah, I think, I think one question I'd like to drop in there is just, like, how do we want to, like, do meetings? Like, what does working effectively, like. Like, is there a way that we want to work effectively in these hours? How do we want to use our time… use our time well? Like, I'd like to just, like, ask a question about, like, are there different ways we want to be meeting? Are there different ways we want to use this time? Right now, you know, we're kind of, like, using the structure that's given to us, and it's, like, it's, like, a really good structure, but I'm like.

[27:07] Are there ways that we might want to use this time that enable us to be more effective? So, that's a… that's a question I'll drop in there that I think would be good for us to discuss. I appreciate that. And do we… Christian and Elizabeth, do… can we change the structure of our meeting? Our public meeting? I'm not necessarily saying go outside of, like, the agenda, like, there's, like, you know, action items, and there's, like, commissioner discussion and all of that, but it's, like, within commissioner discussion, within our action items, it's like, how are we… how are we discussing? How are we as commissioners? It's like, you know, there's… there's things that we have to do, and I think there's, like, structure that, like, totally makes sense that, like, we have to, and I think that can totally be a part of the discussion, is, like, making sure that we're doing what's required, but also, like. within any section, with any section commissioner discussion, how are we… how are we discussing? When we're addressing action items, like, what are… what is it that we want to put on there?

[28:02] like, are you talking about, like, revisiting or visiting, for the first time, community norms? Like, how we… how we even determine, like, okay, do we… do we need complete consensus? Like, what happens if one person disagrees? that… that type of thing, or… I just… I think Erin just am, not quite… not quite clear on what… what this question is getting at. Yeah, I mean, I think all of that would totally be included in it. Like, what are the norms for how we want to meet together? Like, what if… just, like, what are things that we think are valuable for us to discuss together in these times? And what are, like, norms for how we want to relate? Like, do we want to, like, create a norm where it's, like, we do, like, a… few-minute personal check-in at the start, so we can actually get to know each other? Do we want to have, like, a time for, like, open discussion, where it's not necessarily, like, an agenda item, but it's like, hey, like, what are… what are things that you've been seeing in the community? What are we all tracking? Like, I think all of those are, like.

[29:02] ways that we might innovate on what it means to be a Human Relations Commission, and so, like, I'd just like for us to kind of, not now, of course, but, like, during this time, like, to open the discussion about, like, how can we serve most effectively in this Human Relations Commission role, and, like, how do we use this time to effectively do that? Got it. Thank you, Erin. That sounds like a great question. I would just add, and this is not a suggestion, but just noting that, I think you're right there, like, there, and Emily, there's… … Within each, kind of, agenda item, you do have… a fair amount of latitude if you decide in your work plan, for example, that you want to… You know, more deeply understand an issue, and one of the ways that you want to engage differently with community members is to

[30:02] Invite in a guest speaker, invite in community leaders, organizational representatives, people from populations, like, you can do all of those things within a meeting. If you choose to do so, right? And obviously, within a scope and kind of issue areas that are appropriate for the HRC, but assuming that is the case, there's… there are other ways. You don't kind of only have to for example, speak with each other at a meeting. That's a great way to have a meeting, but you have more kind of flexibility and latitude to do things a little bit differently If you choose. That's not exactly norms, but… You know, something that, … we want to… it's our, you know, we… we as staff can help you kind of understand what some of those options are, right? Or if you're… as you're discussing them, say, like, that's totally fine. You're more than welcome to do that, or…

[31:03] You know, where an idea might kind of be beyond the scope or the boundary. Eso es lo que… lo que me interesa a saber este, Elizabeth. De que tema se pueden hablar dentro de la comision. Para traer algun ponente, o alguien que penga hablar. de la comunidad. Que temas… a que temas de verirse. It sounds like it's just a little open, like, if there's perspectives we want to hear from the community, maybe, like, we're like. Hey, Carlos, we'd love to hear from some members of the Latin community to, like, hear more of that lived experience, or it's like, or it's like, what are communities that, like, maybe are not well represented in Boulder? Like, certain marginalized communities, or whoever? It's like, I think what Elizabeth is really expressing is that, like, there's flexibility for how we can use this, and, like, if we want to invite people into this meeting.

[32:09] And we think that that… we could use this space to have a conversation that would be beneficial to, like, bring more perspectives in, where then maybe we can bridge those perspectives to City Council in some kind of a meaningful way. What I'm really hearing is that there's, like, there's flexibility in how we use this space. And so then it's up to us to, like, be creative about what perspectives do we want to bring in. And I think that's something we might want to, like, drop as a question. Like, are there perspectives that we want to better represent as a Human Relations Commission? Then we can have that… Another drop in the bucket for us to discuss when we… I'll meet for this. generally speaking, I like this balance that I'm sensing of, like, let's… let's make sure we're all clear on, like, the fundamentals, foundations, and…

[33:05] structure that is required. And then there's this level of innovation, of, like. okay, what can we do to innovate on that? What can we do to expand that, be creative on that, and support this really being, I think, something that JH brought up quite a few times last year, was like… just what I heard from him was, like, a desire to be, like, effective in our work. And impactful, and I… I share that desire. So, like, how can we innovate and support additional elements, of this commission that will support our work being more impactful. As impactful as we can. As… as humans, here. So, I don't know if that's, like….

[34:00] Just a note on process, like, that could be a way that we structure that conversation as, like. kind of… and I… maybe from a participant perspective, would also appreciate that of, like, Christian and Elizabeth, you all talk about, like, the… what are the bones, like, what is required, of us, what are the expectations? And then we have, … You know, discussion around that, of, like, any questions around that, and then, like, okay, what ideas or questions do we have to kind of innovate and extend, expand, create new possibilities from that structure or beyond that structure? Yeah, I think that's a really good space to explore. So, I think so far, Christian, we have, like, how are people… how are people and ideas brought to human relations?

[35:07] How are the meetings structured? How is the work plan structured? Are there other… Carlos, you brought up, like, leadership. I think that's a great… also, a great topic. That we could… we could… we have a lot of space to innovate, I think. My assumption is, on, like, what does leadership look like in… in HRC? What do we want it to look like? Did I miss any topics, or are there any other topics that folks want to cover? But I also heard from the… … Group are what kind of, … Topics or themes can be… Discussed at meetings what perspectives … would…

[36:05] the HRC like to bring into… … Our meeting space, and… … How to go about that, and then also how… sort of, like, the question of effectiveness, Emily. you had right at the end there, I guess… how I… Wrote it is, like, how will… the HRC know. That it's being effective. Or what is, … How to be effective, as a commission. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like we've got a… We've got a good… a good space of inquiry. … A lot to explore. Anything you wanted to add, Carlos?

[37:06] Puesta miem podemos, como dice Emili, hoy que toque dice el tema de libergo. Habler un poco sobre… sobre liberaz go ser liberal liber. Si, dentro… dentro de las comunidades. See? Y no tan solo dentro de las cunidades, tambien… aqui en este… En la comision, porque tambien va a ver momentos en que tenemos que dirigir al grupo, see? Y tenemos que… que aprender y saber, tener esas nociones de… Deliveraz go. Totally. Yeah, I like that. I like that inquiry. I like… not just, like, how are we doing leadership here in the HRC, and what's that mean for us, but, like, how are we showing up as leaders within the community? And I think that's, like, really looking at how can we…

[38:08] how can we, like, as the Human Relations Commission, like, affect the wider community, and not just be this little place where dialogue is happening, but how are we, like, also supporting… supporting this in the wider community? And I think that's a really good space to be in discussion around. Oh, most… Carlos, that's almost giving me an idea for one of our icebreakers. That would be, I think, a really sweet centering question of what does it mean to be a leader in your communities? How do you show up as a leader? How do you want to show up as a leader? I like that. Yeah.

[39:06] So, in terms of… … We got some good… questions that we would like to dig into and answer, it sounds like. As well as… some… Historical knowledge and structural Knowledge that we want to revisit for some of us, or learn, for the newer folks at the meeting there, in terms of actually organizing this and, putting this into Sort of a sequence of events or an agenda. … what would be… How do we wanna go about that? Do we want to… Try to hammer that out now, or do we… … There could be a… Subcommittee that works on that.

[40:00] Between now and the retreat, offline. What do folks think is the best way to go forward there? I feel confident we could… We could get it done now. How do you feel, Carlos and Aaron? At a selfish level, I was excited for a short meeting, but I think that's also totally wise and reasonable to knock it out now. I think we have most of it figured out, right? So, … here's what I was thinking… how I've… I thought we had talked about it, maybe, is like… Half an hour to 45 minutes at the beginning of, like, less structured or, like, looser icebreaker activity. … And then… Do you think Roberto will be able to make this, or…? is… no.

[41:02] I don't know off the top of my head, … I have asked him to do things on less turnaround, and he's been able to do that. This is about 2 months. Yeah. So… As long as he does not have any, he's, like, one of those ultra… marathoners and… So as long as he's not, like, traversing some mountain range somewhere, I imagine he might be, willing to do that. I don't want to sign him up for anything, but I can certainly approach him about it. Okay, cause what… can you all remind me what he presented on last year? What specifically? Yes, so last year he… he and I sort of co-presented, on… His part in particular was about the quasi-judicial function of the… HRC. Where you all would be working.

[42:01] In pretty close coordination with him or, someone else at the city attorney's office. Okay. I guess… personally, given… like, I definitely honor and respect that that's an important part of our role as applicable, given how how sparsely… that has come up. I guess I would prioritize, and I'm curious what you two think, Carlos and Aaron, I would prioritize, Christian, if you could do… your, like, baseline presentation on, like, this is what HRC is, here's, like, HRC in the numbers, for, like, 15 or 20 minutes, and then, I think maybe that would flow nicely into some of our… Waffling between… not waffling… titrating between, talking about what is and then what could be with those discussion questions.

[43:01] But what do you two think, Corlys and Aaron? Think what you…. creo que estaria bien, podemos discutir sobre, sobre esto tambien, podemos hablarlo. Me gusto la idea. Yeah. I mean, I think what you proposed sounds… sounds super good to me. Yeah, sounds good to me. And then… the only other thing would be, like, a break. You know, like a 10-minute break. Totally. flower sample. I'm a big fan of Greg. I would just again say, and maybe this is implicit in what you shared, Emily, in terms of those key questions, but,

[44:01] that the, if you want, kind of the overview of work plan kind of context and framework, I think that would be a really good Selfishly, I think that would position our… us as staff to help you better, if that's also just a part of the agenda. I was thinking about What those elements are, so that you're kind of leaving the meeting, if you want that as an outcome, with a little bit more structure, to track. It's up to you, but we have tried to use some time at past retreats to You know, kind of leave knowing, like, this is some of what we're going to be doing next. Yeah, I don't… I don't know… If, from what we've discussed, I don't know if… if that's, like, an out… I think… I guess, from what I… am gleaning, and correct me if you two think there's something different here, Carlos and Aaron, is, like.

[45:05] This would really be more… mostly on, like, let's get some, like, other… processes in place, like, let's generate some more ideas of communities, speakers, places we can go to… to more proactively promote HRC, stuff like that. So I get, you know, maybe those stuff… that stuff can go on a work plan, Elizabeth. I… I guess I'm more… sensing, like, an expansion from this, rather than a, like, okay, at the next meeting, then that would mean we would be talking about this. It would be like, okay, this is what the next meeting might look like, and this is how it would be different from the other meetings, and that trusting that, like, shifting the process would also shift the outcome. Yeah. I mean, for me, it's like… A work plan, like… I mean, I always start with, like, what a thing is before, like, what is the thing doing? Like, start from being and move to doing. And so, to me, it's, like, a lot of the important work for us right now, because it's, like.

[46:14] if you look at the relationship between Council and HRC, like, it has been consistently a little unclear of what HRC, like, needs to do, and so it feels like a lot more of the work is in that discovery process and, like, outlining our process and outlining how we can be effective in the community. And I think part of this discovery process is, like, at retreat, and part of it is, like, hopefully in our meeting with City Council, that there can be a little bit more of this discovery process of, like, how we can best serve the wider community and the bridge between community and government. And so, like, my inclination is, like. yes, do a little bit of, like, work plan, but, like, I don't think it makes too much sense to have a super linear work plan when, like, a lot more of the work is… is in the discovery. Like, I think it would be very different if we were a board or commission where it's, like.

[47:07] Council's like, hey, we need you to figure this out, and figure this out, and figure this out, and, like, that's not where we are. And so, like, my suspicion is that a better use of our time might be to actually, like, give a little bit of space to the discovery process and to, like, the reinvention of HRC, than to creating some super linear work plan. I would tend to agree with what you're saying, Aaron. Practically speaking, We have been able to accomplish. … one… one tangible event… Carlos, you… you heavily supported another, so two tangible events plus an event in process without consistently referring back to the spreadsheet. …

[48:00] And I guess this is also how, like, I've functioned in my… in my other job… in my jobs, has been, like, more relational and agenda-focused, like, the agenda and then the relationships within the meeting set the work. … so I guess I feel less… like, I feel… I feel open, Elizabeth, for sure, of, like, absolutely talking about the work plan, and, like, how it's been used in the past, and, like… I'm certainly open to hearing, like, if there are ways that we haven't been working as effectively, given our lack of use of the work plan, and I don't… I'm with Erin that, like, well, I don't want to visit… this isn't an… Anyway, I don't… I don't necessarily feel tied to a work plan, … Yeah. I feel tied to, like, expanding and…. Yeah. Like, let's figure out how we're effective, and if there's a work… if we, like…

[49:02] discover where work plan, and maybe that's, like, part of it, and, like, where I really want, you know, Commission to be discussing, but also, like, you, Elizabeth, and you, Christian, to, like. bring those perspectives in, because, like, rather than, like, defaulting to we need to have a work plan, unless it's, like, a legal requirement that we need to, like, have something like that, like… looking at how a work plan can serve us being effective in how we're moving as a commission. And, like, I think we should totally have that and be like, where… where can a work plan serve an effective role? And where we find it can serve an effective role, like, let's use it. But maybe let's not, like, necessarily default to doing things just because it's how it's been done. Is my inclination. So, I… I follow on. … Well enough. It sounds like the… information that we can provide… I can provide as staff for you all is, like.

[50:02] What are the expectations, and slash requirements of the HRC, do we need to have a actual… Like, tangible document that is our work plan, that we can show this is what we plan to do over the course of time. Over the course of the next year, whatever that looks like. And then, … Kind of based on that, it fits into the discussion around, how we'll… you all know, or how well we all know, if the HRC's being effective, if it's… Somewhere into that question. In that conversation. And so I think there's room for discussion around both there. Cool. Sounds good to me. Bueno, para mi… Para mill yo creo que tener este plan de trabajo es como una base de lo que vamos a realizar. Pero obviamente, no nos vamos a tara ese plan de trabajo. Lo tenemos que a realizar

[51:13] De forma que nosotros… … Los sentimos, o lo vamos a llevar. a nuestras comunidades, si, no es atarnos a este plan de trabajo, lo vamos a tener como Como notas, o como hoyas. Team? Pero… Es decidades, las vamos a desarrollanos otros masa fondo, mas abiertas. Team? Eso es lo que… y lo que yo… Yo pienzo de criar este plan de trabajo. From your perspective, Carlos, would you like us to leave the meeting with…

[52:00] Some form of work plan? To leave the retreat with some form of work plan. Pues, estarita eu pienzo que… Tendreamos que dejar primero a… lo muestren. Clara esta que dijeron que uno de nosotros, os de nosotros, podiamos trabajar junto con ellos. Crearlo En el retiro se nos presenta. Y podemos hacer modificaciones en referencia lo que tengamos. Si queremos an exar algo, oquitar algo. Lo podemos iraciendo. Yeah, I also think, like, the work plan, it could just be, like, here's, like, a bunch of things that we wanna…

[53:01] dialogue about, like, here's a bunch of perspectives we want to have, here's, like, where we want to improve our processes, because it seems like we're going to get to some of that in the course of the retreat, but there's… you know, we've opened a big space of inquiry, and it's like, we'll be able to get to some of that, like, in our retreat and everything, and it's like, there's gonna be a lot more things, and, like, there's gonna be a lot of discovery of, like, here's voices that we want to bring in, here's, like. here's things that we need to discuss. I mean, it seems like that's kind of what the work plan is, is like, what are things we need to discuss? And so, if we can, you know, articulate like, what are… what are the perspectives we need, and how do we best serve, and how do we bring in the right perspectives and have the right dialogues? And, like, we can probably chart that out in a semi-linear way, and that's… Probably, like, bridging these… these two spaces together anyways. So, maybe an area of, like… Coming together around this would be having… having one of the desired deliverables of the… Of the retreat being…

[54:06] A… a singular person. Creating a work plan, and then asking for feedback from our group, or, you know, creating a smaller committee, and then the same thing happening. How does… how does that sound to you, too? Yeah, I mean, it sounds like we're, like, planning to set aside time for discussion about a lot of these topics. Like, we've already talked about having discussion to open these questions about what perspectives… what perspectives we want, like, who… what kind of dialogues we want to have, like, all of these are things that… the questions we want to open in the retreat, and it seems like. From these discussions, like, one of the natural outputs can be a work plan, where it's, like, charting out, like. this, this, this, this, this. Like, it doesn't need to be, like, super specific, but, like. we should, from that discussion, come out with, like, here's a number of things that we need to dive deeper into, and here's a number of perspectives that we want to have more in. And, like, that can totally take the form of a work plan, at least in my understanding of a work plan.

[55:14] And I think that's one thing, just reflecting on last year's retreat. We didn't have, I don't recall, like, a tangible, kind of. output from the retreat. I… it was great to, like, get together and learn more about the history of HRC. I don't think we kind of left with, like, a… a formulated plan-ish? Do… did we? From my memory, And what I have here, it's more… it was much more… Just kind of grounding in… sort of, like, the foundational knowledge around HRC. Role of commissioner, role of… the commission…

[56:01] And kind of, like, a deep dive into what that looks like. Yeah, I do… I do feel excited about having some type, like, for me, the work plan in a, you know, expansive form does feel a little bit like momentum carrying us into the year, so I… I do feel excited about that. I guess… would I feel less… excite… I think, Elizabeth, like, I so appreciate you having made that spreadsheet, and just also acknowledged, like, that hasn't been a part of our process, so… want to be, … want to, like, acknowledge the effort that you put in, and then any… any time that that has been a part of the process, and then also don't want to, like, institute or reinstitute a process that, like, isn't… Isn't working for whatever reason for us, so, …

[57:01] Yeah, I don't know when… I don't know when that conversation comes in. I think we could probably… we can definitely have a great start to that conversation when it happens, and then, I think there's also just a part of working together will be, like, a new team once the other two members come in. … So maybe, like, re… Creating another work plan, and then as part of the work plan, we'll rework on how we work on our work plan, you know? Yeah, I think if… if I may just, kind of offer some… perspective. So, and Carlos, this might kind of jog your memory from A few years ago, I think the HRC conversations were in a very similar place, and they… they have been, right, for a while, in terms of, like, well. If no one… if we're not receiving a very, very specific directive, there's not an initiative, a project that someone is asking us.

[58:06] to do than how, from the world of things that could fit within the scope, like, well, what do we do? And so, I mean. Tip… typically, … In city structure, including for boards and commissions. Board of Commission, you know, does have a quote-unquote work plan, and our department, you know, and I think citywide, what that means is generally, like, a very clear idea that's shared among all commissioners or board members that says, this is what we want, this is the impact that we want to have, this is the outcome That we want to have. This is the change that we want to try to make in our community to make it better within our scope. what you do to do that, then the activities follow. And there are a couple of things, I think, that Christian and I would just remind you are kind of already

[59:06] you've been talking about it, right? There include, focusing on you know, the difficult dialogues, model, right? There are things, right? Last year, the work plan Included conversation of, we have an opportunity to try to educate our community about human trafficking, right? That's a thing. It was an activity, but the outcome, or the goal, was more people in our community understand what human trafficking is and how it relates to human rights, right? That's kind of a thing. So it doesn't all have to be You know, … like, just like, well, we're gonna talk about these topics, but ideally, any work plan, I mean, on a staff level, our work plan is very specific outcomes, like, how does this thing that we're gonna do

[60:01] Why are we doing it? Well, we're doing it because we think it will result in this better outcome for our community. So, in its ideal form, I think any work plan does that, right? Just helps… provide a… some of those, kind of the North Star for why… why are you doing what you're doing? And what kind of impact do you want to have? how you do that and on what topics, I think are, again, like, it sounds to me like the questions you've been lifting up, again, for what it's worth. are all the right questions. A work plan simply tries to tie them together in a document that gives you the ability as commissioners every meeting to say, oh yeah, that is what we said we were going to do. Oh, yeah, that was our goal. Oh yeah, that was the thing that… the kind of change that we wanted to make. Without that, right, for any of us, right, it's like meeting to meeting. It's like, well, what are we gonna talk about? And I'm not saying that that's what you're doing, but, like.

[61:02] I think that's just kind of the function of a work plan and how they tend to be used, certainly with staff, but also with boards, commissions, committees, etc. So that expectation does exist, the form that it takes. And how you all think about it. There's not just one way. But, … it, it is… At its most basic elements, a way to capture, like, what are… what changed… what impacts do we want to have within our scope? what are the challenges? Why are we focusing on this set of things? Why do we think we want to do this this year, this next year, instead of… you know, these other things. So, again, I think the ordering… it can happen, it can be created in several different ways, but, you know, Christian and I, and as your, you know, kind of staff support.

[62:01] We just want to make sure we're clear, that there is an expectation that boards and commissions have a work plan. And so we can help you to the extent you need it, right? To kind of provide some context, a framework, if it's helpful. And so that enables you to have the kinds of conversations you want at the retreat. And that you have some idea, right? It's… every meeting isn't only, like, well, what should we… and again, I'm not saying you're doing this, but that's the risk, right? It's like, every meeting's like, well, what do we want to do? When you already have had some of those conversations, what's been lacking is, like, really… Kind of tying it together in a way that allows you to revisit. check on, are you doing what you said you were gonna do? Is it having the kind of impact you wanted? And then after you've done the things, whatever they are, it's like, did that have impact? Is there anything we want to do? What do we have to kind of show? What do our community members have to show, right, for having engaged with this body?

[63:08] As a city commission. So, I'm going on a little bit long now, but I think, … not to leave the impression, right, that it's like, must leave with a spreadsheet. It can look different ways, it can be structured in a way that really feels right to all of you, the three of you and the two new commissioners. But it should, at its best, help you Accomplish what you want to accomplish, and have the kinds of impacts you want to have. I hope maybe that's helpful. Totally. Yeah, I mean, to me, it sounds like we're all kind of saying the same thing. It's like, we need to discover how to work well, we need to open the question, we need to figure out, like, what it looks like to… how we want to run our meetings, what kind of rhythm we want to build that can actually make the impact, and then we need to look at what kind of structure, which means, like, how do we put what we discover through our conversation into a form that we can refer to? And so, yeah, it sounds…

[64:04] Sounds like that, and so it sounds like what we're talking about is, like, making sure we have time in the meeting to discover and answer those questions, and making sure that we're committed to putting it into structure so it can support us and future members serving well. Entonces, ha mi me gustaria que… Emily, fuera parte de… Del estructura de… De como se vai a cabol nuestra… Mr. Retiro. Que ya participe con Elisabeth y con… Christian, en la laboracion de… el plan de trabajo y de todesto. Y creo que vi quiero nesta de acuerd.

[65:07] … Are those… Carlos, are those two separate requests that… You were wanting to, like, wrap up the conversation around our retreat and move on and have Christian, Elizabeth, and I work up, like, a sample agenda, and then send it to you and Erin, and then a separate request to follow up with them after the retreat to, like, come up with some sort of work plan for our… Approval or input? No, aqui mencionaron que… que crear una pequena comision para elaborar el plan de retro. See? Oh, I. Utussis. I was… sorry, Carlos, I think I was hoping to… I was suggesting a small committee actually for after the retreat.

[66:04] There were two things. There was the request… because there was the inquiry of, do we talk about what the retreat schedule is right now, or do we open up a little subcommittee? And then there's also the, we need a work plan that comes out of the retreat. And it sounds like there's some amount of the schedule that we kind of have clarity on now, and maybe, like, a request to, like. take what we've done and, like, bring it into some final form, and then it sounds like during the retreat, we probably want to be discovering most of the work planning, getting that, and maybe at the retreat, like, we make a decision about, like, what is going on, like, what further needs done, and then maybe we can create that subcommittee then. Does that sound good, Carlos? I'm definitely more than happy to help with the creation of the work plan after the… After the retreat, do we… do we want, do we need more time offline to work on the agenda? Like, are there pieces that we still aren't clear on, or…?

[67:08] How are folks feeling? I do not know. Yeah. I feel good with everything we're talking about right now, and if there's anything final that needs, then I'm, like, totally… supportive of you coming up with whatever, but it sounds like we have most of it. I don't know, Christian, Elizabeth, do you feel like we have the schedule, or is there more conversation that you think. Well, why don't I just run through… Yeah, that's what I have, so…. That's easy. So I have basically 30 to 45 minutes to start the… Retreat with just gathering and connecting time. … We transition into… some… a light version, I think, of what

[68:01] Was the majority of last year's retreat content, so… Some grounding in the history. Role of the commission, role of the commissioners, and then… They look at sort of, like, the HRC, currently, and also, just kinda… what data I have in terms of what my office… what I am, covering. And then… A break? That would be… Above the, sort of grounding, 30, 45 minutes as well. In that area, and then a break, and then the remainder of the time, basically, to… Address the questions that we I've identified at this meeting. I think… just one…

[69:03] What… based on the numbers, Christian, like, the times… how long would we have for that last conversation? That would… that would depend. If we had… … Probably… Between 1-2 hours. Okay. I can definitely… Pare down my part, and keep it… To, like, 30 minutes in the… spirit of, like, giving y'all as much time to converse as you want. …. We can also put a…. container on… Sort of, like, gathering and connecting time as well. Yeah, I think, just recognizing how much… how many questions we've posed, I think I would like to leave as much time as possible for that.

[70:00] P-part…. Okay. And then with the addition of the… of Carlos, of your idea of meeting in September to get to know each other better, that would also give us… That time, so leaning more towards, like, the 20 to 30 minute, maybe, for the gathering part. Yeah, that sounds good, because in September, since we won't be, like, doing it as an official, like, work meeting, it sounds like we probably can't be, like. And opening some of those questions, but we can be doing a lot of getting to know each other, which means we can cut down the getting to know each other section during the retreat. Enough. Me pareceivier. So we could say, just to… … do the math real quick. 20-minute… gather, connect… Eat a quick something, drink some coffee, I can do a 20-30 minute presentation. That leaves us about

[71:01] 10-15 minutes for a break, and then… The remaining 2-ish hours, would be… Going through the… walking through the questions and, generating some ideas. We'd probably want, like, a 5-minute break somewhere. I think Drake's in the middle, but… Kind of, like, take some time, and, like. I think we can kind of be in the emergent process within those two hours of, like, let's be in the question, let's step back and take, like, a metal look at it, like, how do we want to facilitate the next process? Like… But… but with those two hours dedicated to taking time to answer these questions, be an inquiry together, and then, like, with the intent of coming out with enough structure to kind of, like, create a work plan out of. I would… one thing that might help, just with the timing, and that would… Potentially be helpful with again, kind of framing, what a work plan is and isn't, and what are you required or not required to do. …

[72:07] Your handbook, which we just… you know, work to revise, has a section on work planning, so I think as… Christian and or I will work with the two new members to kind of go through the handbook, just it's… generally a good idea for, to kind of re… read and review, and just kind of have that reminder. And if… Then, you know, that might just shave a little bit of time off, kind of during the meeting, to do… to do that review, kind of in the moment. Yep, that sounds like a good plan. I will plan on reviewing the work plan section. I will review the work planning section as well. Cool. And then, Christian, I, … And Carlos and Aaron, if you are open to this, I'd be happy to take a look at those questions that we developed and come up with, like, a proposed flow of the questions, and then toss it back to you all to see what you think. I don't think it's, like… nothing is, like, make or break, and I do think there's, like.

[73:15] Importance to the intention of the sequencing of the questions. That sounds great. Yeah, I digress. Okay, and then Erin, you said you're open to, like, facilitating that? Sure, yeah, yeah, I'm happy to play a part in that. My facilitation is fairly light, but I know what to do. I do think, and Carlos, I'm curious how you feel, but I do think having, like. some… again, leadership, like, we could all play our own role in this, like, somebody looking at time, like, you know, are you spending 40 minutes on the first question? Like, okay, it's time to move on. Someone thinking about, like, themes, all of that stuff. I don't know, Erin, if you want to play all those roles.

[74:03] … But I do, you know, I do think, like, we need some… We could be supported with some facilitation for that. Totally. Yeah, I have a lot of experience with that in a lot of my organizations, and I'd be more than happy to play that role, and also more than happy to give space for anybody else who wants to play a meaningful role in that. But if people just want to, like, lob it to me, then I'm happy to stay in that facilitator role. I'm a… I'm very poor at time management when facilitating, so I will not be. I will not be. I can… I can definitely handle that. Thank you. Puedo… puedo de mili preparar algo deliberaco. Perogunos 10utos talvez. Cool. That'd be awesome, Carlos. Yeah, that would be great. Yeah, yeah, you can definitely, like, lead, because I think if people want to, like, lead sub… like, play a leadership role within an inquiry. Like, I can kind of hold the big structure. We're gonna be, like, looking at a lot of different, different questions, and then, like, if people are like, hey, I want to play a leadership role within asking this question, such as, like, the question of, like, how do we handle community leadership, and then you can, like.

[75:15] do that, Carlos, and so people can kind of name to me before, or, like. like, as we're going, hey, I would like to… to facilitate this… this question, and so I can… I can create the structure to allow… allow people to facilitate whichever questions they want to… Facilitate. Sounds good. Puesque asi tenemos estructurado. Provo. Algo mas…. I think we're good. Yeah. One last piece, in terms of logistics. For the setting. … We have, in the past, we met at…

[76:02] Park Central. Last year, we met at the second floor of Park Central. Sort of where we… Ad figures going away. … I don't believe that space will be in use on a Saturday morning, so we could look there. I also… just proactively has, reserved the conference, the community room at the North Boulder Library. Which has a… Is the newest library branch, and has a, like. Very cool if you haven't been there. Kind of view… down into the Flatirons, and then it also has, like, cool garden space, and free parking. So… … open to folks' input. I have that reserved already, so I can change that no problem if we have a different setting, but that was just something…

[77:00] … I wanted to… Nailed down today, as well. Sounds good to me. Yeah, the library sounds great. Yeah. Shit. Okay. You should come in your room in the North Boulder Library? Yes, so it's, … sort of behind those… yeah, sort of behind those shops on Broadway. Yeah, I love the North Boulder Library. I've only been there a few times, but I want to spend more time there, so…. Cool. More than happy to meet there. I guess the makerspace has their open studio hours before or after. Nice. Yeah, I wanna check that one out. Sorry, Carlos, what are you saying? me parece… me parece viene la biblioteca. vemas esta cirquita mi casa. I was gonna say, it's very convenient for you, Carlos. Okay.

[78:02] Cool. Seems like we've got all the clarity we need around retreat, which is great. You know? estra agenda yo creo. Del siguiente punto es actualizaciones del personal de la ciudad. Yes, indeed, and let me… Share my screen, we… Alright. Nope. Sorry, y'all. Here we go. We already touched upon… …

[79:00] the two new commissioners, so we will be joined by Jorge Martinez and Mindy Miller. … Just a couple… updates from… in terms of city work that, the Commission has been interested in. Following in the past, at the… August 14th, City Council study session, … the… team, within Housing and Human Services, and a consultant, Gave an update on the city's homelessness, strategy. … And the link is right there for you to, check out. It was a… … pretty… I had never… I'd listened to it myself, and just had not heard the information presented in … that way, and haven't dedicated that much time, it was really.

[80:01] impactful work that happened there, and it was an interesting, very interesting listen. So if you're… like me and want to just tune into that, while you're doing some other work, it's on YouTube. … As well, Elevate Boulder. Elizabeth presented a little bit of information at the last meeting, but we will have a final evaluation report, which will be released on September 15th. And then a participant storytelling event, to happen at the Derry Arts Center, beginning at 2pm on September 21st. And then, in addition, … the city is pursuing, Boulder is pursuing accreditation as a welcoming America, city, and what that means is, we are… have been doing… a small team of us has been

[81:02] compiling, … information and, … presenting information to Welcoming America is a nonprofit… a national nonprofit organization, that accredits cities based on, Their work in… essentially supporting immigrant communities, in their, municipality. And so, we have submitted our… Sort of self-audit, and we'll have a few… … Meetings with their staff in the… Next couple months to come, and then we'll have some…. Ideally, information and updates and celebration to share out, once we have the results of…. that process. Let me pause there. Elizabeth, anything…

[82:02] else, to add, or anything that I missed there? Just one other… sorry if you just said this, Christian, I'll admit I just got a quick distraction, but … our human relations. fund, within HHS is supporting a Nepali event, that's happening, I think, the first weekend in September. We can, if folks are interested in that. and engaging with our Nepali community, we can get that information to you. Yeah, I would love that information. Yes, and then, so that leads right into, the last bullet point here, community events. Labor Rights Week, excuse me, is this week. … And it is… just a national, week to bring awareness to the protections, for workers in the U.S.

[83:06] How this relates specifically to this group, and we're doing a little… communications… Outreach on it this week in particular is around the failure to pay wages, ordinance, which is our Cities, wage theft, ordinance, or prohibition on wage theft. So as soon as I have… we did a little video and are gonna do some social media. … campaigning around that. As soon as I have that information for you all, I can… Push it out to you, and then… starting September 15th and continuing to October 15th is Hispanic Heritage Month. And there will be… more… community events to come. The only thing that I could… we're not funding any of them, to my knowledge, at least, the city is not funding

[84:09] The… any of the events, … this year, so the only one that I was able to find on a quick search, was Festival del Sol, which is also September 21st from 12 to 5 at Chautauqua, and there will be Music, vendors, a… … Nature Walk for those who, would like to participate, and… It's out on the, sort of, lawn area outside the Chautauqua Auditorium. And as usual, if there are more events, we will try to get that information out to you in advance of those. And one last piece as we… As I am remembering. The… Aaron, you had asked earlier the dinner with Council …

[85:08] is October 21st. I don't believe I left it out of here, because I actually don't believe we have any more updates to share, necessarily, in terms of what, Council would like to discuss, or Council would like to hear from, other than, I think, interested in some interaction with the Commission and hearing about, sort of topics, that are coming up for the HRC, and I can provide some information on what my office is seeing as well. Cool. That's… that's helpful. Good to know. Yeah. And of course, as we get anything Alice, we will keep you informed. They are a busy group. Totally. I pass it back to you, Carlos.

[86:03] Gracias, Christian. La informacion. Nuestro siguiente punto es… Las actualizaciones de… Los comisionados. Mmm… no… no update for me. things are good. I'm just back from two weeks of travel and back in school, so that's… that's my personal… personal update, is back in school and busier than ever, but glad to be here. Are you at school right now, Erin? I'm in New Vista High School because I was attending the beginning of the Boulder Chamber Candidate Forum, and if this finishes, I may be able to catch, like, the closing remarks. Well, I will keep mine very brief. I was able to attend Modus theater's, event where they had, several of their undocu monologues read by

[87:07] monologists plus, members of law enforcement, former members of law enforcement, and then they had, immigrant rights training, which was really helpful, and I was impressed to hear what, Michael Doherty is doing to promote those. Around the city, so that was really heartening. … Doing them online and… and in ways that are accessible, for people who understandably don't want to be out and about in public today, so… I think that is my update. una actualizacion, pero si… Bingo!

[88:01] Dos invitaciones que serlees? La primera es para el sabado 6 septiembre. aqui en la conida de ponderosa, y creo que ustedes yales llego el email, creo que el des manar a uno. de la comunidad, y me gustaria que asistieran para que convivieran con… con la comunidad y con various personas que van a sistir. La segunda invitaciones que el 10 deceptiembre. Este hay un evento por parte de la ciudad que se llama WhatsApp Boulder? Cero que empiezar la una de una cuerdo que ahora. Si me ayuda se disableda. Y y este tambien. Tambien este pueden asister.

[89:00] Para que se integren tambien a… A conocer este… A la comunidad tambien, porque va a ver que entre de la comunidad y va a ver este… Personal de la ciudad, y… Organizaciones tambien. Es escan las dos invitaciones que tenes que serles. No se cristian si tienes el Flyer de WhatsApp Boulder para que nos lo… Se los mandes, yoya lo tengo ahora, pero. Yep. Elizabeth and I were just… chatting each other, like, oh, shoot, we should probably mention this as well. It is just not on my radar, because I think I will be pretty busy that weekend. … What's up, Boulder? Sunday, September 7th, from 1pm to 4pm. over at Scott Carpenter Park, and it's an opportunity to… Interact with, learn about, and, provide input on, a wide variety of city services. It's a pretty awesome event.

[90:05] … And yes, I will send out the flyer, to all folks, Carlos, don't worry about that. Appreciate it. I would be sad to miss those. Grandpa. Traveling. Gracias. Gracias, Christian. Entonces, vamos a siguiente punto que son… puntos seguimiento, Cristian. Yes, … So, what I will do is, … Emily, I heard you… Volunteer to do some sequencing of the questions we've identified, so what I can do is, send you a Rough agenda based on tonight's conversation. And depending on, that would be for the retreat, depending on when,

[91:01] you have that ready, it would go to me or Elizabeth. to… Bump back out to… The commissioners for input? I believe? Does that sound right, Elizabeth, or would she… okay. See you nodding your head. And then…. Yep. I will work on, just confirming with the two new commissioners the date and time for the October retreat. And… confirming September 15th at 6 o'clock for, a non-meeting, and gathering of commissioners to…. Spend some time getting to know each other. Am I missing anything? No creo que esto esta. Sabien. Fantastic.

[92:01] Bueno, entonces… si no hay nada mas. Que discutir, que comentar, o algo. Vamos a dar por terminad nuestra reunion del dia de hoy. Siendo la 7370. Nos pasamos y 10 minutos. Pero esta bien. Entonces, necesitamos un amocion para terminar… Nuestra Union. I move to end the meeting. Second that motion. Entonces, todos estamos de acuerdo. Gracias que tengan buena noche, y nos vemos para el 15 de… Septiembre. thing. because. Good night, everyone. Gracias a todos, gracias.