September 12, 2023 — Downtown Management Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:00] They do. And so I move that we change 9 B. Lyme emer scooter to the staff to become oh. let's put it after public participation. and that will get it done. Ensure we get it done. We to pass this. We just need a majority vote of the Board to move to change the agenda order. Sure, I'll move that we change it. Sure. Great. So yeah. Now we'll make sure we get that done. So we don't like to slop off the back end tonight. But Lisa, would you like to start us? Yes, thank you. Mr. Chair. Welcome to the Downtown Management Commission meeting. It is

[1:00] Tuesday, September twelfth. and I will call Roll Susan Newsom here. Don Po, here. Stephanie, trees here. and Justin Calvin will not be attending. and I will turn the meeting over to our chair or procedural items. Great. Well, I move we approve the minutes from our last meeting on July eleventh. Do we have a second second? Prove they are next. We have our elections. And so Justin's not here. He's in trouble. But Susan, you're you're you're about to. When does your term expire? I think my last meeting is in March of next year.

[2:00] Great? Well. I'm well, hey? I apologize. I can't be there. My wife is also on a city board, and they've moved her meetings from for Thursday to Tuesday. So it makes childcare issues challenging for me. But I Stephanie, I I think you know, addressing you. Do you have interest in being the chair? I do not. I would like to remain vice chair. That's okay. I think you're doing a great job done, and my capacity is little limited. Currently, it seems to be so. Well, I feel. yeah. So, Susan, I assume you don't want to be chair. What with you going off the board at some point, so I would maybe move that we table this to the next session when Justin is here, so we can get his input.

[3:08] Otherwise I will volunteer to be chair again, but II like the idea of passing it around. but if I don't want to saddle Justin with it, if he's not into it. and we have no indication that he is or is not. Does anyone talk to him? You did not indicate either way, alright? Well, that sounds appropriate great. So let's table elections till our next meeting yet again. Thank you, Stephanie, for the vote of confidence. So moving on to the next item of public participation. I believe Reagan's part of the city. So is there any public here? I mean, yeah, we could look over. And if anybody wants to speak from the public. I'm not seeing any. It's just staff, so we should be good to go

[4:01] great. So moving on to the next agenda item, which is now line is gutter expansion letter to the staff. to make sure that we're doing this properly. I wrote this up and There was a couple of things that came to light after our last meeting. One of them is that this isn't going to city council, that Chris Hagland is kind of the the one deciding the Senate kind of moved ahead faster than we all thought and kind of, was in in a way in indicated after our last meeting. So to degree, this is oh. I don't know if it's moot. I think it's always worth raising your hand. But does anyone have any comments on that letter to be sent to so Chris and to city council.

[5:00] and just a point of clarification the intent would be to send it to Chris, and when he does his next information item, it will be added to the end of the packet. So okay. do, do we give a chance for Chris to reply. or does that? Is that not useful? It certainly could. Okay, I'm I mean to say that, like it would be ideal if we if we did reach some alignment prior to taking it to council. But if you think it's better as just like a packet. that's what I was curious about between Chris and us like that conversation. Sure, that's the preference of the we can just send it directly to Chris. See what if he responds, and then maybe. or maybe adapted, or something. You know. What do you think about that?

[6:02] I am open to always? just after the Friday night buff parade thing there is a you know how like, when motorcycles sort of gang and they kind of like are down the highway and they can't you. They become one organism, and you can't like get around them. It was kind of like that of line scooters where, like, there's a whole past, all of them going by down canyon on the sidewalk, and like we just had to wait for, like all of them, no as well that for them all to pass by. And so, yeah, they're already there and stuff. So we have different opinions. My opinion is maybe stronger than others. And I temper this as our group. I am game to just send it to Chris Chris Jones here just said we would. You know it would be added to Chris Hagland's packet, and I don't know what that is. Part of me says

[7:04] this is a big deal to the DM. If this is a big deal to the Dmc. We could send it to Chris Hagland, and we could send it to council. II don't know why we wouldn't do that. And when when Chris Jones, you said we would just add it to Chris Hegel's packet. I don't know what that packet is, so I guess I need more clarification transportation mobility. So let's maybe remove the names out of transportation. Mobility is leading this work. Council empowered them to implement. And in that, though they did. seek input from a variety of stakeholders, including the downtown Management Commission. They have since worked with last year's to implement all over the city. That's the 23 and in many cases did make changes to the locations of slow zones, and and some of the other capabilities of last year's have. But it seems that maybe there are some requests that

[8:06] from the the Dsc. Meetings that we're not met. so we can certainly communicate directly with transportation mobility, and see if they have a formal response to why or why not? They've not made a change by this particular stakeholder group, and then go from there. Transportation mobility doesn't need to provide counsel at some point. I'm not sure when it's on the calendar or an information item, to update counsel on how the program is going. Now that it's been expanded. In that they would certainly include And they can't include feedback they they receive from various stakeholders, including Dmc. So the Council would have the full spectrum of perspective on what's going on, and concerns that folks might have again. It doesn't mean that

[9:08] that will lead to changes, or the the when it comes down to it. Well, it's a downtown Management commission. There's a lot of players involved in what happens in the public right of way and while we you all are an advisory board for for all things downtown, and you're a stop along the way. They might have fairly good reasons about why the requests that were made at the meeting weren't weren't put into place. Maybe the one follow up question I had with that Chris, is the timing of transportation mobility reporting to Council was indeterminate. I heard it's like some day in the future, and I guess I just don't want this to.

[10:01] We don't need counsel to weigh in on it. but I also don't want this. Can we set some expectation? Or how could we say, Hey, transportation, mobility? We would like an answer within this time, or III guess I just don't want things to always move at the speed of government, you know so well, II don't wanna necessarily volunteer our friends and transportation mobility to have a response to you within the next 30 days. I don't know that that would be a problem. So if we direct the communication to Chris. I imagine that we could get a response email to you all. certainly within the next month. And if that's not the case we can let you know. That sounds fair to me. I think we'll this will probably be on our agenda next time, anyway. Sort of how do we think it's going so further? The process, I think it makes sense to to do that. Send the message, Chris.

[11:05] Sounds good, Stephanie, sound good to you? It does. Yeah. I mean. from what I was, did I read that? There's a one year contract with 5 or yeah, that's not very long, and especially in government time. So I imagine they're going to be like getting feedback in general and like assessing how it's going. And we're going to be an input into, like the scooters, or just late everywhere, like they all are in Denver and ever like we're not. Maybe the Pop. Maybe it's only a couple of people, or just during see you events or something. So II do think it's a little early to tell the scope of what isn't working, and so I don't think time will hurt us. Frankly, I think it might help kind of gather more information. So keep your eyes out. And I agree with this plan? Yes. Well, then, I move that

[12:00] we direct this be sent to transportation mobility. Do we send it, Chris? Or do you facilitate that? In some manner we staff can facilitate. And just as a point of order, the chair typically shouldn't make motions, you should leave it up to your other commissioners to make the motions, and you get to take the vote awesome. So does anyone move that we pass this? Sure, I'll move that we send half step. Send the memo to transportation. And do we have a second Stephanie? Second? Great? Well, thank you for that. Terry. Did Terry have a question. I saw your hand was up earlier. Okay. cool, do we? Maybe I just need to. Re, well, it's maybe too late now. Do we need to put that timeline thing in there, Chris, or can we just kind of assume that's what's gonna happen. Or you can just talk to them about that. It'll be reflected in the minutes. And yeah, we didn't have a formal motion. As long as the Commission approves of the language. As a body, then we'll we'll make sure that that's reflected in our message to to press transportation, mobility.

[13:17] great speeding right along. Consent, agenda topics will not be discussed unless there is a question to the Commission from the Commission. and so did anyone have any questions. This includes the affordable commercial development program. I guess it's a in the last consent, agenda. The topic but it might be out of order is, I was reading about the homeless State Center. and then saw, like rumors of the camera that

[14:04] the location or there's some questions padded so and that's early. But it sounds like it hard last minutes. So. And I noticed it wasn't in this consent. So I was curious of the thread. It can be later discussed. But I think that because the we have a public safety update coming up very soon in our agenda. I think that, can we put it that question to them, Stephanie? That seemed good. Chris. Sure. deputy chief might be able to speak to what's going on that they center. But I wanna acknowledge that at a previous meeting. Yes, we did have housing human services here to talk about that. I know there have been changes since last time we heard from them, and so, if the deputy chief isn't able to answer questions. We can certainly reach out to housing services and see if they want to provide a written update or a future verbal.

[15:11] I don't think I have any question. 7 up. I had one question because this happened since our last meeting on page 15 of the agenda, under affordable commercial. The program development. August Tenth. Staff went to council on a study session for an update on the affordable commercial pilot program. And since that's potentially part of the properties that the Dmc oversees I could we have? Do you know what that update was? Could we have that sent out to us tomorrow so we could see what that update was. So I can. I can speak to that Commissioner. So I'm I'm happy to send you the memo from that study session, and then the Study session summary as well. Council offered significant support for our plans to, or our recommendations rather

[16:08] to develop an affordable commercial pilot program. This work will really kick off in 2024, and it's it's mostly separate from the existing properties within, although there there may be some overlap. But this is really speaking to a formalized, affordable commercial program for the city. Is it downtown, or where is it? It would be city wide. So that said a significant portion of the resources are coming from cages. So we have a lot of components to our our portable proposed affordable commercial program. The application that we are exploring. Would it could include leasing a space in the downtown area and holding a master lease on a space that is broken up into smaller spaces. That's one path that we are

[17:04] considering in the development of this pilot program. And so that element of it certainly would be downtown. But with that we have affordable commercial covenants that exist with properties at thirtieth and pearl at the Macy's redevelopment. And so we'll be. We're wanting to also formalize some of those components. So while it's see why program there certainly will be investment components that occur in the downtown within the resources are a part of this. Can I ask some quick questions about the consent agenda? Do you know regarding the University Hill Improvement District when the hotel is gonna be finished or Conference center? Is there a timeline for that? It's always moving in my head. And there's the 2 project. And maybe, Regan, you might have some pressure memory, but that should be done. Early early next year, and then the Conference center, I understand. Should be completed by 2,025, Regan, did I get that about right?

[18:22] Maybe double. That's right. Chris. Construction. Okay, yeah. And the other thing, I was curious. The 3, the public's. Oh, wait! There's a new name Boulder, social Street. Sorry. Do you think that we will be able to get an update in one of our standing meetings on that. Which one do you think that will be on how that went? So they're gonna assess that. And sure we can approach the project manager. From I think there are new. So we had a retirement. So in in business service, anyhow.

[19:07] we can invite the project manager to a future meeting. yeah. So in your including your packet, was actually an information item that's been prepared for council. So how about. If you didn't have a chance to review that, let us know if if you have additional questions, I did review that. Okay, it said something like, we'll give an update towards the end of the year on how it went like the data from it. So I was hoping we could add that. yeah, maybe that would be great topic. and Lane chimed in with the name of the new Project manager, Ben Mattebog.

[20:01] Yes. I went to the social streets on. Well, first, to finish these affordable commercial stuff I'd love for us to have the updates on that as well as it impacts the downtown management area. I think that's really fascinating, and it fits in with our priorities pretty well. I went to the social streets on Friday I was somehow, you know, because I pay attention all these city things. I got the emails. I got some free ice cream. My kid got a free icop thing. and there's a lot of cheerleaders, but not a lot of public. So I hope more, more people get to some of these things because the actual Pearl Street was packed. The thirteenth! I just don't know if people just didn't know about it, or what, but it was that one was sparsely attended. I'd generally say

[21:03] so. Consent, agenda, moving on. Since there's no more questions from that fund. Financials. the fund will not be discussed unless there are questions posed by the Commission, please. Reference the packet attachment, and that was on page 17 ish. I had one question. the transfers in and out. I just that's a term that I'm familiar with, and I saw that the transfer is it? Have not hit yet. Nor have they cost allocation and transfers out hit. Can you just describe again what those are for me. I just forget what that is. Sure. Hi, I'm over over here. Good to see everybody again. Budget officer those 10 hit at the end of the year. So there's a couple of different transfers in fact, the hatred and fun

[22:02] cost. Allocation is essentially the administrative overhead costs all the internal services that are provided by the general fund. So all of the the dedicated funds, including. our general improvement, paying the cost allocation. So that comes out in one month, some at the end of the year and then same thing with transfers. So to transfer from general fund to to pages. And and in the big picture, did you see any red flags or anything that you would want to be like. Hey? I noticed this. Here's kind of something that's worth noting from your point of view. not from mine. Now this is Theresa. I think we're tracking pretty well right now. And one thing else notice, we are. Gonna see a little bit of the difference in the way that our parking revenue comes in for, because we're transitioning to our gateless system for going from a quarterly payment to a monthly payment, so that revenue will come in a little bit differently than

[23:14] the fun. Stephanie, Susan! Anything else? Or should we move on to the next step? Did you have any thoughts on the budgetary aspects. Any. The capital improvement program? We haven't spent much of that. Is that a timing thing as well? A lot of it is okay. You don't see any major changes to that happening. So I think that there's a likelihood that we probably won't spend a full budget amount that will have to roll into next year. But we are doing an incredible amount of work this year, which I'm really pleased with, and so we will save more of that expense. Come in as we get most of the end of the year. Okay. one question about personnel is the difference between the

[24:00] your date and the budget related to still a lot of open positions that been planned to fill? Or is that something else? For? Partly that? And then partly with our transition from the workday system. There's an actual journal entry process that has to happen. And so when reven or when the expenses are booked in our financial system units. They haven't always caught up with this queue document that is reporting here. So there's like basically expense reported in the financial system that hasn't caught up like 3 months behind. Try to do the math of adding that up yeah city wide to get those journals record in a time of matter, so that it catches up so probably. and

[25:01] great if we're done with fund financials. Is that officer Redfern? I can see there. hey! How are you good seeing you again. Thanks for joining us again. Yeah. My pleasure. Is it my turn? It is your turn. Public safety update great. So I'm not sure if I met everybody, so I'll reintroduce myself. Steve rent from deputy police chief just here to see if you have questions. I'll just give you kind of a little bit of an update on some of the broader topics that we've been dealing with that specifically impact downtown. It's been busy. It's been it's been really busy. And so far we're keeping up with football. It's been the first couple of weekends have been busy, but actually for us. Minus a couple of one offs like the guide where we're rising up on the hill. Overall. It's been. It's been really good but I'll talk about just a little bit of our internal state of affairs right now. We're down about 15 officers we were getting really close to being fully staffed. And then we had a push of people that left to go work for other departments for various reasons.

[26:07] So we're about 1 75 hiring left and right to get back to 1 90 we've got 17 officers that have about a month and a half left in our field training program. And so once those 17 hit the street, we'll have the ability to look at where definitely needs are add additional positions back to some of the positions like the multi which we initially last couple years, had to pull people from to put back on the street. To make sure we can handle 9, 1 one calls. And so we're really excited something we can kinda slow the departures. we wanna supplement some of the teams we've had to pull down, and the priorities on that or the the Mal team, the whole team and our cabinet team. And so those are gonna kind of be the priorities to put some staffing in. If that all works out well you'll see more officers in the area which is our goal. If you're not familiar with what's been going on with us. We had a meeting, a council meeting Thursday night, where our reimagined policing plan was unanimously approved by Council, which is exciting for us.

[27:10] it, really, it's been a 2 and a half, almost 3 year project. And and for us. What's exciting in there is not only knowing that Council agrees with with our goals for the next few years, but it allows us to be up. Implement those goals once, and if we are able to get back to where we're fully staff, we there's a good likelihood that we can seek additional positions, full time employment positions based on some of the needs in that plan. So that's obviously not put the card before the horse. But there's potential there that we can maybe even bring out more officers that will allow us to further work on our problem, solving efforts and all those things. Got a lot of great ideas and things we'd love to do since we'd love to bring back that got taken down after 2020, like our Dui unit, some others. We hire. We have our first K. 9 that we brought on through all through donations directly foundation. She's a rock star, and she is

[28:08] very close to being certified. She's a great Pr tool as well. She's very friendly. really cool dog. So that's exciting we'd love. She's half a German short hair pointer, half lab. So she's in fact, I think we just posted a couple of videos on social media in the last couple of days. If you go and check it out. She's great. Her name is Astro she was named in honor of officer at her telling, because the Astros were his favorite sport. Team. So it's really cool. We love to be able to bring another canon in near future, too. So that's really exciting. Some of the bad, or things that aren't going well. We've been struggling in this area for about 2 months. It looks really good. We up with back to school, we up our enforcement of encampments to 3 days a week, and what that seemed to do is push people downtown.

[29:01] There's people onto the Mall. I just drove by there now, and it's pristine. It looks really really great. We posted last week. based upon some of the Cabinet type set up, we actually did post and and did send me to our notice, and on Friday went through arresting a couple of people that wouldn't move, and then everybody else moved on. Central Park is a continuous struggle. You'll see a couple of cameras that have been put up, one on the pro in front of the courthouse, the big camera trees with the lights on top. We're doing those as a pilot program they've won down Central Park. That's really to be used a lot on our stamps work. But it's it's a great deterrent for people that are potentially committing crime. So we're hoping those are successful. we've had a decent amount of crime in and around Central Park. We did an operation. Wednesday let over on the 1,300 block of Pearl, where we arrested quite a few people in one day we had undercover officers out. We had surveillance, and we we took off 3 or 3 significant drug dealers down here. It's increasingly overdose. So it's a constant struggle for us.

[30:05] adding to that struggle. The jail is as of last week telling us, they will no longer, at least temporarily, take any municipal arrests or warrants because they're full. That's extremely problematic for us. and I'm hoping that's a temporary thing. I don't envy the sheriff. That's there's a lot of issues that lead to the jail being full short staff. But we don't get to turn off the 9 1 one calls. We don't get to, not respond when we're called, and so not being able to jail people when it's necessary, appropriate on, on misdemeanor, municipal charges and stuff and work through that they're still taking any other serious crimes. So we're not like we're not taking people. But constant struggle there, we're still seeing a constant struggle with Pr bonds. We had a guy right outside our doors here 3 weeks ago. Cops found him right nearby he even showed us where the knife was. He was 2 days after he was arrested, given a Pr. Bond and released. We rearrested him Thursday, in fact, the chief and I walking here for a meeting, and he was out here berating one of the civilian Park Rangers

[31:12] chief and I started to chase him down. And he got away. There's more to that story. But it's very fast. But anyway he turned out we found him a little bit later. He's stolen another bike downtown. He had over 50 fental pills on at that point, resisting arrest again. And so he was out on the Prm unacceptable. And that's some of the struggles we're dealing with the da's office is a great partner, and they continuously, when, especially when we go to them and say, Hey, this person's a menace, please ask, you know. Try to keep them in custody, at least till they can see a judge. unfortunately, it's just a interesting challenge that we're dealing with. So all of that to be said. We're well aware of the issues we're all all all over them. We're offering overtime for officers for increased presence. We're going to as well as we come back into the holiday season

[32:04] overtime. In in, in downtown, overtime, in the shopping areas the cops are exhausted, though, and sometimes it's hard to even get those fills. So that's some great meetings with business community. Terry facilitated one last week. we've heard loud and clear from them of some of their frustrations. And we're working on those 35 people came to the reimagining open comment accounts in the night. And we heard overwhelmingly from a lot of the business community that stuff there's issues we're gonna continue to to work through. So that's kind of the high level overview some of the things going on. We're big time up staff for this weekend with an 8 Pm. Game. We have some serious concerns about some of the all day drinking, and then the game at 8. And obviously Csu, I mean, I will not pledge my allegiance.

[33:02] So we believe we have adequate resources here, and then just kinda see what happens. That's kind of the the overview. Any questions that you have. I'm happy to. Is there anything in the reimagine policing concept about this problem with the jail? I mean that it's been a problem since Covid it? I mean, both with more serious crime, and with just the petty fact, I mean, they know they can get away with anything. So it's it's really I don't disagree with you, and it's not in the plan, because the plan is really our strategic plan. What we're going to do when when the sheriff has to make those tough decisions like shutting us off from municipal valuations. We share that with Council. We share that with City manager. And then, you know, there's a whole sheriff has county commissioners all those things, and so

[34:00] are in a perfect world. You know. the county on their end would realize that they need to do something different and do whatever it is the sheriff needs, whether it's bodies or either the alternative sense. Something is being built, but it's a couple of years out. And so really, we're trying to keep doing our part, and hopefully, you know, hope, hop, hop hoping by just being factual about what's going on that something changes over on that end. It's it's definitely not a lack of the sheriff not wanting to be our partner. He's a great, he's a great partner. But it's different set of challenges. So yeah, there's a lot of people, huge backup on people waiting to go to the State Hospital. Colorado has a disable mental health resources. It's last in the country. And so there's a just a great deal of people waiting in custody to go to Pueblo and which it's a beautiful place. But the second piece of that is, there's a ton of people like 9 or 80 to 90% of the people in custody or waiting trial, because trials got super back to update code. So like Michael, they opened up another courtroom that they're trying to try people left and right, that's fine. So if and then the other part is, there's a bunch of people in custody with department of corrections, and they're really slow to come. Pick up people.

[35:19] and those are people you can. At least those are people that need to go back to prison because they're series vendors. And so that's that's state of affairs that they share with us. And that's a constant struggle for them. Yes. thanks for sharing. That was helpful context. I think that what I guess I noticed about the the homeless population is that the sort of migrate based on times of day? And so. I think the one I know that it sounds like your short staff, and I was thinking about the ambassadors. But even just like Thursday night, my husband and I walking on the Broad Street Mall like when it feels empty, and it will feel like it's a little bit more when it gets colder.

[36:00] And then there's a group of people there. It's not encampment technically, because there's not tense, but just like a lot of people around like there's the perception of feeling not safe if they don't see police or ambassadors. So I think I think, even if the problem these are not easy problems to solve right. I think when you're especially like someone like me, a small woman and like it's pretty empty, and you don't see anyone around that could help you if something went wrong. If there was someone who was high and like, you know, worst case scenario, I think that's when the public you feel more unsafe versus like every city has problems. But if you feel like if something would go wrong, people would help you, then you don't feel scared. So I guess to me. I'm curious about how sort of police and or ambassadors could work together to with that natural migration that happens a night and day, and kind of be more of a presence there in the interim before all valid concerns and what we're experiencing. So our mal team works daytime hours if we are able to up staff that stretch into the evening. And it it really is just a matter of having the resources to put the number of offers. So our patrol officers

[37:14] we'll do like on my way over here. There's a couple of them that called out that they're going to be off control on them all. It's all dependent upon calls and some nice. They're just running. So it's really just dependent upon when they can get out and do that perfect world we'd have back. We used to have 8 officers, basically 2 and a half right now. So that's part of that is, once we're able to hopefully get where we need to be. We cannot stuff that. But what we share with the business, too, is, if there's ever any unsafe condition, regardless of staffing our response times, or extremely high compared to the national average. If there's ever scenario where someone is acting weird, if there's somebody following you, I mean, don't even have to call them when you can hit that button inside your phone, whatever 7, 10 times it'll call number one for you could text, another one like a lot of times. What we see is people like, well, we don't wanna buy the cops and say, No, somebody's making you feel an easy

[38:06] call us. We will get there quick, and then, you know, so it's may not be in a cabin, but if people are setting up there like the other day. There were no tents, but it looked like somebody's living room over there on the notice that for 72 h, you know, and so we keep reporting into part of boulder. If even if there's no tents because it, it probably does fit the definition of the cabin unless it's just one single person that's quite frequently, but accounts additional reports. perception that is worse when it's less crowded around. I don't think people feel this way when there's a ton of people around in the same way. So just thinking of lighting like some solutions. And they.

[39:10] I know it's tough issue. But the perception of lack of safety is even stronger than what the reality is. And I think that I think that's part of the issue that I don't know if we've seen any like real. Well, I want to know about the quick kind of responses to like. This is a dark block. People avoid it. Let's do something, or let's put someone here where I think those things would help change that like perception that boulders getting more and more dangerous. But I would encourage you all as a group, that if that if those conditions exist to report those council, report those to the proper people. You know there is a dark skies, or so it's called. So we and we deal with the same thing. When we had the guy on the hill last year that was perpetrating against women like he was able to go very freely in and out of dark, really dark blocks and alleys, and it's like, you know. So from our end. We there's a lot of things that you know make it up to that will will help alleviate somebody feeling comfortable.

[40:11] Yep. I think the communications a big deal. I really appreciate the police working and the Da working with the downtown community for those meetings. I think those are really helpful, just because the more you know, the more you understand, business community understands the issues, I think there's more compassion and understanding and collaboration. So I really appreciate the time that your team puts forward to to talk to the business community. and I'll just say that if there's any meeting, if there's any individual business that wants us to come out and do an assessment on what they can do better to determine. We have a whole program that will come out and evaluate a pro business crime prevention through my environmental design. It's just a matter of just letting us know when there's something we'll come. We'll come, speak with concerns and try to do we can. One more thing. So I think folder transportation goals are directly at odds with

[41:03] the bike scenario, which is like everyone's afraid to park their bikes, so get stolen and like there's my bike right there, because I would never park it out here, and just in the space like. So like, how do we, as city move forward with like what I think we all want to be like potentially city with less cars than any other city like that's the vision. But the reality is this crazy, sophisticated bikes dealing ring and one off that, you know, people I probably are biking less because they're afraid to break to park their bikes downtown so like. how can the police help and like kind of work on a plan to address? I think those 2 goals that make makes that will really tough index. If you go to the bike index, it's national website. We're all over it. Really helps us, because I can tell you, like the guy the other day, Stabber, he installed a bike and he and said, Yeah, you guys took my bike this morning. So I took this one. It wasn't in the bike index so literally. If you have, you know this way, can we find it with an On house person.

[42:16] or whoever. And you know there's no serial number we can look by make model. And what we ask on the bike conduct, you'll actually take a picture with your bike and say, this is my bike. It just helps us. I mean, we recover small mics left and right. We've been posting. If you follow us, especially on Instagram, we post in the Facebook, like stories on Facebook, when we have people that have pictures of their bikes. We take the report we put those out. This bike's been stolen. We actually get decent success with that and then, obviously just making sure that when people walk their bikes, if they have proper locks, or sadly, 2 locks, and then we do have a bait like program that we've been doing operations with it. It it has a little bit of an impact when we catch somebody and steal one of our bikes. The end of the day.

[43:01] There is, you know, for someone stealing a bicycle as a property crime. There's a very reasonable chance. They won't go to jail at all. Probably get a summons, and so we kind of have to wait till they may feel to appear on that or anything like that. So there's a lot of things but check out the bike index. That's a huge part of it. It's not gonna necessarily prevent the theft, but it makes it much easier for us to get it back to you, and then make much, much easier if it's 2 in the morning, and we find in a camera with 6 or 7 bikes where they go through the index ago. This one's still on this one still, and we're gonna seize it and get it back to the owner. And so in like, typically in okay condition. Usually, I mean, sometimes we do at the end that are just cutting bikes up, for I don't know reason to sell scrap metal, but most of the time, you know, you'll see people out here. You're riding a really expensive bike. You know, it just depends on what they're using it for. But we'll also find we've we've done search warrants on more organized rings, and there's like 100. I don't know how many people know about the bike index, and like or

[44:07] you know, it's one of those things I'm not the most organized person. Sometimes we're like until something bad happens. You're like shoot. I should have done that. So maybe II don't know if there's communication, or you lock bikes, or like all the vendors. But whenever you lock bike I feel like that's the moment where you could prompt someone to actually sign up. because I just thought I don't know if I have fine signed up my, read all my bikes. You may be of one bike, but not all of them. So I'm just next time you chase someone you should skip hard to steal them.

[45:02] Great. Well, let's move on to our next item. Terry. I saw you at the event on Friday. I didn't say Hi, cause I didn't want to cost you with my family, but the thanks for putting that on it would have been great to see you in person. Just I don't know, Steve. Are you still there? You know? I cannot think them enough. Every time I see an officer I try to take them. If anyone's been to the 1,300 block since Friday. It looks like a different place it's really clean and safe and lovely down there right now. So we're incredibly grateful for all of the actions that were taken over the past few days. Especially leading up to the stampede. The 1,300 block is is just in tip top shape right now. The camera that he was speaking about is

[46:07] up there and as far as I know, it's going to be there, at least through the weekend our in our ideal world. We would advocate for it being a permanent fixture. It seems to be doing a lot in deterring bad behavior. So we're eternally grateful for whatever happened the past few days it really got that block clean. So right now, the business improvement district, we're in the process of getting all of our plans in order for 2024 first of all, exciting news we have a new CEO. Her name is Betina Swigger, Swigger Swager. I keep saying it wrong. She's coming to us from San Luis Obispo. She will be here in late November. So you guys are kind of stuck with me in the interim. But patina and I have been in contact, and we're really excited to welcome her.

[47:02] Slow, as they call it, is very similar to downtown boulder. They're college town. They're they have really high rents and housing is an issue. So a lot of the things that we're experiencing in Boulder she's extremely familiar with. She also has ties to Colorado, which has a lot of really good friends that are in Boulder, so we'll be excited for her to get started in late November until then. Next week we will go in front of our board of directors to get our 2024 work plan and budget approved. Once the board approves it, we will go into council in early or mid October for council approval. Backing up just a little bit about the Ambassador program. Last week I did go to the Finance Committee, copied Mark and Chris and a few other people. We're asking for an additional about $103,000 to cover the ambassador program for 2024. What that money will do will allow us to give ambassadors a raise

[48:10] of about a dollar. So right, they're about at $20 right now. The raise will bring them to somewhere between $20 and 50 cents to $21 an hour. It's kind of critical for recruitment and retention right now, as the ambassadors do a lot of really hard work and our counterpart organization in Denver. The Col. Colfax bid we want to be more competitive with their rates. So I did send a letter off to council this morning, also requesting support of that request for the additional 103,000. It goes kind of in line. There's a budget line item right now for about. I think it's up 489,000 in the 2024 budget to give hourly employees and city contractors a living wage increase to 22, a little over $22 an hour.

[49:07] In many regards the ambassadors are contractors of the city with how much the city contributes to the program. So we are. We have our fingers crossed that we'll be able to do that if we have a flat budget for the program next year. We still feel that it's a priority to get the ambassadors that really small pay increase. But what that will mean is a reduction in services in order to accomplish that and unfortunately, kind of what you guys were just talking about. The. their, their focus of work will really fall under clean and safe that happens during the day. So a lot of the decrease in hours is going to have to come in the evening hours. So we are hopeful. We're moving that forward. We know that there's a public hearing on the budget coming up the first week of October, and we already have

[50:00] some allies ready to speak and to encourage Council to hopefully find that increased funding for us. So we can keep that program going strong. in regards to the lime scooters. In the past 2 days I've gotten comments from some different business owners. I'm not sure what's going on. I actually sent an email to Chris this afternoon. we were told that the Pearl Street Mall was a no scooter zone, and also the slow area was surrounding the downtown people are speeding down at the Mall in the scooters, and yes, Sunday. One of the business owners told me that in front of a large audience a guy who was going really fast actually flipped off and over the handlebars. And when he landed on the ground people actually cheered because he almost hit a lot of people walking on the Mall. So we'd love to try to get ahead of that issue. Figure out if

[51:04] the no scooter zone and the slow zones are actually in place, because it doesn't seem like they're working really well at the moment. And we've had a lot of people. Also. They didn't know they were coming. And so we'll definitely try to help spread the word and give out all of the correct information to the business community. Terry. Just so. You know what that what our position was when we were in this letter we're giving to the transportation mobility we were talking about that we had recommended a slow zone that's like all the way from beyond the library to like this huge, this much bigger area, because all of that not just Pearl Street itself, which is a no go zone, but like the whole neighborhood. Yet basically, all of caged in essence is where people walk. Yeah, definitely done. And we were told right before they launched that that was already in place, or we were under the assumption that it was in place. So to get that clarified. Or

[52:09] and so what happened is that that didn't happen, that that slow zone is not that big. That's what we were asking for, and that's not what happened. I wanted a as partners with the Dbp. That's the deep Dmc. Was looking for a very large. slow zone. and that was not part of the plan. Gotcha. Okay. well, hopefully, we can all get that fixed. So everybody feels safe. Because again, the ambassadors can do their best to educate people, but they can't enforce anything. So it's a challenge. we're dealing with skateboarders. cyclists. And now the scooters. So that's just a little overwhelming. 3 times to get off

[53:13] in uniform, officer, and the person completely disregarded that so for our poor ambassadors to be standing out there screaming at people to please follow the rules. That's all we can do. We don't have any form of punishment or anything we can have them enact. So there, people seem a lot more defiant these days, too. So Other than that, we're wrapping up. You guys mentioned boulder social streets. So Dvp, our events team has been overseeing efforts on Thirteenth Street as Don mentioned Friday. We had the best intention of getting people there, for like a pre stampede event, however, with a big event already planned on the Pearl Street Mall, trying to divert attention down to that area was extremely tricky.

[54:07] even with free ice cream and free shaped ice. People already had their plans to be on the Mall, and that's definitely where they wanted to stay. We're working closely with community vitality parking services in helping launch the gateless garage system. So we have a whole communication plan in place to make sure that that goes smoothly. We had an earlier meeting yesterday talking about some of the challenges with the stampede, and also with on Game Day and the garage is backing up as people are trying to get out. We're looking forward to that gateless system, working seamlessly to make sure people move through the garages a lot more efficiently moving forward. I think that covers everything. If anyone has any questions. I'm happy to answer them.

[55:07] Let's say, Terry. the ambassador program. I think we all agree that it's super important. and in your appeal to counsel if everyone else agrees, I think it makes sense that you can say you presented this concept about raises to us, and we enthusiastically agree that it's an important source of safety for downtown, and we completely support it. Would it help if we write a letter or support? Or do you think that it's going to be approved, and if you do, then you know no, II don't have any idea a letter support would mean the world to us as we gear up our efforts. If that's something that you guys would be willing to do, we would be extremely grateful

[56:01] a little bit on this topic. And I am game for us to write a letter. If Susan or Stephanie, if you wouldn't mind taking the lead of just a simple paragraph saying how this ladders to safety, and so on. Since I wrote the other one, I wouldn't mind having someone else write this one. What are you presenting? Carried the public hearing on the budget is October fifth, I believe, Chris, is it? Does that sound right? Yes, correct. So we're gonna gear up efforts to try to have everybody. send letters, and I. We already have a couple of people lined up to be part of the public speaking. Portion of that hearing as well. Thank you all. Thanks, Terry. thanks, Terry, for your efforts as the stand-in, too. We really appreciate it. matters from Staff Mark wolf. Good to see you again.

[57:08] Good to see you as well. yes. So thank you, Mark, for being here. City's budget officer, as you recall at our last Dmc meeting staff team presented our preliminary budget work that we've been doing. We touch. We touch on a lot of topics that has since gone to the broader city budget team, and our request for Cv. Or balance and evaluate it. Next to all of the asks of all departments of the city. And there have been some adjustments that are being looked at. Help achieve all of the goals that we are seeking to achieve and what we want to acknowledge that we got an affirmative vote from you all the last meeting, and we want to be able to share with council budget, as you all are confidently standing behind.

[58:10] So we have invited Mark here to talk kind of about the citywide budget considerations and trade offs. And specifically, some conversation around the ambassador program where we did discuss, you know, this whole need for additional funding for the ambassador program at the previous Dmc. Meeting, well supported, spending some dollars on those enhancements since then, taking a look at all the other competing needs on the general fund. General Fund is paying for a significant majority of the best program up until now. And so the proposal for 2024 includes shifting at least 4, 2024. The Ambassador program to Cajun. So it doesn't mean that we can't entertain additional funding to meet Terry's and Dvps requests. But it's quite likely that that so we'd be looking to the to make those

[59:19] expenses. They're investors on the hill. My district as well. Right? Do they correct crossover at all, or is it? It's all pulling from the same team essentially. But the general fund is still contributing to the ambassador program and civic area, and on the hill. The see you contribution is is contributing to the bad ambassadors on the Hill. I think the work that Mark and his team does is made sure that they separated. the the downtown ambassador team would be cover primarily from Kaji dollars. And if we wanted to increase from the 3 7,000 $372,000.

[60:06] That's currently allocated that we could do that. But it would. Probably the accounts will probably see that coming from that in the Caja truck. Do you except see, I was reading? See, you gave additional funding of 45,000. Is that all they have given? So I could. That that's a pilot program that we do. And it's basically running through first quarter. So we have tried. We. We're also talking to see right now, because in negotiations for the block by block contract, it would be much easier if we were able to do it holistically for the entire fiscal year 2024. So we are working with, see you right now in trying to have them join us for the second through the fourth quarter.

[61:01] They only have. Just so we're clear on that. The majority of ambassadors are downtown. They have a team lead, and one dedicated ambassador up on the hill alright. So outside of that mark, is there anything more that you want to dive into? Sure, just a little bit broader context. you know, 2 funds in particular. We needed to come up with some creative solutions general fund is one I always talk about but also the community culture and safety tags or primary capital. Tax for general capital projects across the city. So those are really the 2 areas that we were looking across all phones really to figure out a way to meet our goals. So

[62:02] with general fund in particular. You know, we have very limited room going into the budget. We knew we would have limited group chat ongoing things so new services, new people. Because of decisions that we made in 23 to for new programs expanded programs like like our spaces, efforts like the Services Center, which is coming like things like that. 23 and then you know. Certainly we have some positive news in terms of revenue. Make it up for yourselves on property tax, and some of the impact of the library. But district being created, for you know, some of resources. And so that's balanced with sales flowing as inflation comes down. So all that kind of anticipating about 3 million dollars worth of general fund.

[63:03] and from departments we received over 26 million dollars in plus almost a hundred ftd. so scale was large and we looked to funds where we could try to help out, and so shortening a long process into a few sentences. But many funds were asked to kinda chip in more with Covid parks and recur example, and looking all of the dedicated phone sources. And kaja. This another example, where certainly the the fund is healthy, balanced with knowing that the primary focus is the capital infrastructure. So the recommended budget to propose, Chris mentioned splitting the cost of the ambassador program one third program.

[64:00] the 2 aspects of that program that are still funded one time dollars. So kind of pilot nature of the Ambassador program and the Urban Park Rangers program. Both of those are extended in 2024 onetime dollars as well. So both both aspects continue, but not with ongoing funding. At the moment, knowing we need a permanent solution. So that split is about 125,000 or 25,000, general 5, 250,000 kg. one of 3 that Terry mentioned. II would imagine that that will come up that council on Thursday because sent to our financial strategy committee. What we're trying to do with city Council just for your awareness is to have them make recommended changes to the recommended budget prior to first reading. So our goal is always to have adopted budget.

[65:00] So time, perspective probably would recommend pulling any additional dollars. Constraints. 103 would be ongoing cost lightly saying so. pilot if you will. I know that would be for that to be just going to people which is not good. So I think it helps. I mean at that. I know counsel will do what they wanted to stage with the budget, but certainly, and for support for looking at pages. Additional cost. And I think that helps guaranteed. So that's on, Sam. So happy to answer questions on that and then, as it relates to capital logging, it's also important to mention that with the Ccrs we are target numbers looking at over the 6 years. So backing up the second. Sorry Ccrs is a 15 year tax.

[66:06] I think that's right. About 200 and some 1 million dollar tax of it. And so we had asked departments to submit total costs some of the major projects that were listed in the ballot and others that will qualify under Ccrs revitalization. So 1 million dollars is in Ccrs. I recommend budget for that project. 26, I believe, and 2 million and so that number will find as we get closer to that project. Obviously, that's a broader project. Just the city. But again, just pointing out, that's a change from

[67:16] July. Those are the significant ones. if I missed anything that sounds right that all come from the retirement of that debt. So that helps. It's so. You know, basically, you all already voted affirmative support untenable, like to a different direction. I confess I have a little bit of hard time hearing Mark, for whatever reason. I don't know if it's just the intonation of his voice over the mic. So that's kind of challenging for me. Maybe my one question that I heard just from the beginning this part of the conversation when we had the sidebar about how the

[68:08] the money going from cage it into the ambassadors reading between the lines. There is there, like a request that the Dmc. Put more money towards it, or something I just didn't like. I had a hard enough time hearing. I just didn't know what the outcome of that was. can you hear me now? Try to speak. Lisa. Could you move the camera over to? Thanks? So, but by general point was II don't know what council would do. Counsel could certainly add general fund money to to fulfill. Terry's request. II think it helps because Staff would not recommend pulling additional general fund dollars at this point I think it helps. If the Commission did support additional dollars for that 103,000 no promises, but I do think it helps the discussion with

[69:07] from from my perspective. I don't check that with anybody, but from a mother perspective. So, as we remember, we did, I think Dmc. Did. Also we put money where our mouth was for the day shelter. Too correct in some sort of way. No, I don't. I don't think so we did for the art project. So you're thinking. I don't think we're supporting. This is where I just like. That's why II I'm confused. I just remember at 1 point we were gonna write a letter this there, like we we were in support of the day center. And I, Chris, I recall. You say, well, put your money where your mouth is a little bit. One thing to say, Nimby of. but I remember you just saying it's like a little bit Nimby of like. Well, it's great. It's over there. If you did this, if Dmc. Put some that's I'm summarizing briefly

[70:06] so in the budget that we drafted. We did include $200,000. For safety. Then we'd suggested that could go to expanding the Ambassador program once that went in the hopper of the citywide budget process. That $200,000 actually turned into $250,000. And it was. And it was instead of the general fund contribution. So what Mark is asking for now is if Dmc. Would like to maybe formally make a you know, a motion to support additional cage to delete, but beyond what's already being allocated or proposed for 2024 up to 250 k. To to. If if Dmc supports increasing that even more

[71:04] cover, the increases that Terry's been suggesting, then that gives counsel, some affirmative guidance, because that's your your role. Your role is to recommend about it. As an advisory board to counsel which really is the Board of directors of the central area, general Improvement district. And so, if you all think that that this is a reasonable approach to using dollars, and you have an affirmative at this meeting to say yes, even more. Makes sense to help we just to fulfill the proposal that Terry's put together, and that just tells me how to make that decision in October. Is anything need to be cut to meet the additional? Something like that

[72:17] is the way that 250 that's in there now is that kind of now permanently earmarked. And it would like, or is that kind of like temporarily? It's being proposed as a one time. So the the faster program is still considered a pilot. So it will be a one time budget allocation for 2024, which means that next year, when we're planning the 2025. But then we need to have the conversation again, to determine whether or not the program is going to continue permanently. Where are the the ongoing funds come from? Where they gonna come from? Because the moment that you make program ongoing, then those resources are no longer available to be leveraged for capital campaigns, bonding initiatives, which is really, you know, the true intention of the the Gid funds are are more for the capital side. So the more that we eat away at operating, the less leverage we have

[73:21] or future capital campaigns can I make a motion to support? That's the telling city council that Kajed will contribute personally. You want me to step away, is it? I don't. I'm happy to get. I don't know if it's appropriate for me to be here. Just tell me if you want me to. It's a public meeting you're welcome here to save, maybe. Don't. Yeah, don't opine. Well, my reasoning is that well.

[74:01] I in in an ideal scenario anyone who has a financial state would contribute. That's my approach. I don't think government should pay for everything. See you businesses ideally, everyone contribute. But we don't want the Pro. The program. We know how important is, and we want it to be stable, and it sounds like it will be unstable if we don't increase the spend, and that So, leaving it to the council to pull from anything else in the general fund which we know the priorities are. oh, almost center affordable housing, and this isn't like on their top 10. Then II feel that the best way to keep it moving is that we provide additional support occasion where it's most acutely felt by not having night staff or having less hours. It's gonna affect the downtown the most. So so that's why that's why I support this path.

[75:02] The reason I wanted to question it. Not that I'm against it. but I just wanted to question. It is, if Council looks to Dmc. To be the one funding it as this pilot program. At what point does it stop being a pilot program? And at what point does the Dmc. And not take the onus of being the Funder for it when we may need money for something else. And so I just wanted to understand kind of what the bigger picture implications of go, you know, going off. You know we've we've put our chips down. Now, are we going all in, you know, with it? And how does that impact? What? How that hack hits with the as we move into future years. And as we move from a pilot program, you know. what's the domino effect my response would be like, I would want to give Terry and team more leeway to raise money from for profit entities to expand the program. This government is not an endless well funding, and but to be in a crunch to raise money like fund to program is really tough. Must you know, they're very good at fundraising, but like the idea that it's in partnership with a lot of different organizations that have a stake. And so but

[76:17] that takes time to have like a big campaign to like get big, you know, amounts of funding for continue a program. So an interim one year solution seems like a good solution for not saying that we're gonna contribute for like 5, 10 years. Right? We're just saying the next year. Mark, I wonder? You know, since you're this is all so new to me. I don't really deal with the budgets of the city that much, and I think you do it a little bit more than I do. Mark. How how do you forecast this into the future? And you know, do you have any recommendations? Maybe it's a fair question. I. So Chris's point, we're going to have to make a decision on the permanence of this program next year. Essentially, the way we're recommending is to kick the can and to get one more year of data from both the Urban Park Ranger program and the Ambassador program and say, how is our approach to safe advantage? Work?

[77:19] and then we answer the question, 25. Do we make these aspects permanent? And then where do we fund them? II do think you're indicating support for perhaps a permanent solution where caged is paying for 2 thirds, 3 quarters of of a program for for the Ambassador program. And you're right, I mean, can't predict the future. Certainly things come over the fence. And now you have this ongoing costs. There, I think overall agent is a healthy fund. You have the ability to to make it work. If it's a top priority of the condition, then it's helpful for council to build out at the stage of budget development.

[78:04] I love your answer and approach Mark. Thank you. That's yeah. You you're gonna continue. But that like, I wanted to know just what's the longer interim impact. And I guess maybe I I'd almost wanna put a sticky note on it that says, Counsel, what are you gonna do for the long term? Put it off. And yeah, I mean, II don't want to be step out of Terminator, but I mean certainly, knowing that you all support permanence of the program is helpful knowledge. I yeah. compare the price of the an ambassador versus a police officer. And you get a large amount of the impact that you do from an officer? Maybe not the full impact. But still you get it's it's to me it's money well spent. Yeah. All these approaches go hand in hand. There's no one solution to safety. It's all of these different things. And this is an important part of that. That's it's our number one priority. So I think it makes sense to publicly support it.

[79:11] So if we wanted to move it now, oh, so are we saying a certain number now? It was 200. Now it's 2 49. Is there a new number? We're saying. the new number would be it 3, 50? Yeah. 3, 52, yeah, 3 50 is but $352,000. Sounds like maybe trying to figure one way to simplify. II think if you're leaving your recommendation recommendation on budget that would be inclusive of the changes, so that I think the extra information we would need tonight is on the additional request. So if there was a a motion that passed in support of an additional $103,000 from cages or

[80:05] the increased investor budget. I would move what he said. and support also, not just the dollar amount, but of sometimes older partnership. And they're stewardship and use of those funds motion. It's a motion. Yes, second emotions is that they said that. Did you get his? Do we have to all vote all in favor as long? Yeah, Don agrees. Then we're good. I agree. Alright. And I'll make sure that. Lisa. Yeah, yeah, I have motion to recommend 103,000. There's no from Cajun budget to support investor program expansion, something along this and the Dvp. As well. Yes, that's good.

[81:11] Terry had a nice little note in our chat. Thank you so much. Your support means a lot to us, and it really is a big deal. The safety is the most important fight. The first thing we need to revitalize downtown because that snowballs into so many other parts of people wanting to work and people wanting to go to restaurants. And all these different things, I think it's so important. Before we move under garage improvements up dates. I wanted to know one other thing in the chat that Lane had mentioned that, Terry, there are 4 other emails from the hill residents about large numbers of line scooters on our lawns, sidewalks, and 80 Ga. Access ramps. They are sent to Council members by hill residents. So Council is is hearing about Lyme. People upset by line

[82:02] directly from residents. We can continue with talking to transportation mobility. We could potentially. You know, there is precedent for the community is talking to council directly about Lyme. Hearing no one else say, Hey, Don, let's change. I think we're gonna stick with transportation mobility. But that was my reading is, do we go to council? Or do we just go to transportation mobility? I still think we start with transportation. I mean I it's a one year contract. So if the goal is to end it after a year. that's fine. I just wanted to put the chat into con into into record here. So moving on we're doing well on time overall matters from commit matters from staff garage improvement updates.

[83:00] So we have Christine Edwards here, our senior manager of operations and maintenance she is just going to share some timelines. There's a lot going on in the garages right now. You all may have noticed from lollipops and replacements to power washing and restriping to installation of cameras for payless system. It goes on and on. So every with everything happening. All once we thought it would be a good time to update Dmc on various problems with the brush. So, Christine, over to you. and you should have the guts. We can't hear you, though. did it work. are we not? We did it just for a second hold on trying to get all my screens organized. We didn't. Okay, so Raj improvements. This is just a quick, high level overview for everyone here. There are. We have details. We're constantly sending updates and updating our website with information. We're working with Terry and crew to get the word out but wanted to give you an idea of what we're doing with those capital infrastructure dollars. That change it has been

[84:16] has been. I'm sorry Dmc. Has been responsible for so some of the things that we have done so far I don't know. If everybody remembers. Back in July and August we had Rtd. Closed for ramp repairs. So that was exciting. We have power washed and striped spruce the spruce garage. The Lollipop sign project. You all know what the lollipop signs are signs in front of all of the garages. They're gonna light up. They're gonna tell you how many spots are available within the garages. It's exciting. but yeah, so we have. We have that process, that in process. we've started. I don't know. Everybody knows we're starting the conversion from the Rtv Eco passes to an online system. And we did lots of elevator work specifically at which is exciting

[85:07] just for fun, fact for everybody. Our power, washing and striving was so successful that the folks at Cedar and High decided to do a photo shoot in our brand newly striped garages to ignore the people and bring clothes. Look at that amazing striping. You're welcome, very exciting. But wanted to let you guys know that what is coming up next. So the big push right now is we're going gate lists. Sure, you heard heard about it over and over again. We're really excited. It's gonna be great, especially on nights like last Friday we had the stampede and there were lines. It was like trying to get out of red Rocks, which is just part of big events, and it will be nice, and the gates are not there and walking everyone, so that we are still on track to go gateless. October first. as Terry mentioned. Our team has been working really really hard to do. Outreach all of the port permit holders. Oh, sorry. I copied mostly evening work. I'll change that guys. But we are currently doing installation on cameras in all of the garages, because, as you can imagine we are. Does that 18 days until launch? So we've got lots going on?

[86:25] this is the parking guidance system, where there's mostly evening work happening in the in all of the garages. September seventeenth to October nineteenth. So this part will come up a little bit later, right after the garage. Feel like garages have gone gateless, but it will tell you, where is there parking available? On which level let you know how many spaces are available. So it helps people navigate the garages better rather than circling. I guess. I should say. Are there any questions about those those parts so far, or any additional comments. I know that

[87:00] Teresa and Chris have also been have just been crushing it. Theresa's been rushing it on this whole transfer indicate less exciting. Yeah, it's gonna be good. okay. So up next. we're gonna be doing power washing and striving here at 1,500 pearl. That's where I am. That's fine waiting at it behind me. So that's next week it will be September eighteenth through 20 s, we're not going to fully close that garage. We're going to be the top floors first the first few days, and then the bottom floors on the second day, so it'll be a little bit tighter. We'll squeeze, but that garage will still stay open. Randolph, in case you guys haven't noticed. I guess I should say you all haven't noticed. Construction is happening there. It is closed public from September twelfth, starting today until November first, and so there's no public parking. There are a few permit holders that are allowed to park there during construction. But we're trying to make it just permit holders that they understand that. The movement within that garage.

[88:08] Because it will be a nightmare. People don't understand what's going on with construction. There will likely be additional work that has to be done, but there won't be as big of a parking impact after November first. So in anticipation of going gateless, we're installing speed bumps at the exits of all of the garages to slow people down. Because if you're excited to leave the garage, you might forget that there's a there might be pedestrians walking in front of you, so install. Next be bumps just low folks down Saint Julian. We are doing some Corey behind the wall in the basement to see what's going on behind there. We know that there's water. It's close to Boulder Creek, so, checking out what's needed for the waterproofing behind there, we're doing some advanced work on traffic coding. So we're gonna be prepping the the garage space in order to add a layer and protect concrete. Because when people start coming in and out of the garages they bring in water weird chemicals that like to eat away at the concrete. So we're trying to protect the investment as long as possible with track coding. There's also gonna be some stair work. Same thing happens with people's shoes, and when they come in from outside, and they have stuff on their boots it starts to eat away at the concrete on the stairs, so it's time for us to take a look at that

[89:32] and fix that situation. Rtd is open. But you should know that the ramp between levels 2 and 3 are down to one lane, because there's still some work that we're doing in that area. So we have showing up right now, but based on the work that we're doing at Spruce and with all of the garages, and and Randolph will restart some extra work in our TV, probably around November, and then at Spruce, where you saw the pretty pictures. We're gonna be doing additional work on the stairs. And then we'll be doing some construction in the area are in the basement later on this year.

[90:10] So any questions about that. Christine? Yes. this is exciting. well, any of the stair work, all the stair work involved cleaning, too like is it baked into the project? And it sounds small, but like when things look kind of dirty that you avoid going to the garage, and we want people to go there. So no, I'm laughing because something that our maintenance team deals with on an almost daily basis. So we are. there will be cleaning of the stairs we're planning to put together, and you'll see in the next slide more of a This team has been playing a lot of catch up on deferred maintenance that during Covid everyone kind of tightened down on spending trying to spend on just the base the basics, because none of us knew what was gonna happen when it came to the economy. And now this crew is playing catch up on on some maintenance stuff construction, making sure that their improvements done. So part of that will be to set a cadence of when does striping and power washing happen?

[91:18] How to make sure to make that the main, how to activate the maintenance team in a way that they are providing that level of friendliness that you're talking about. So that will be coming more detail soon. But we're planning to to do power washing and striving on a particular case, probably starting in the spring. So just so, you know. Okay, that's yeah. That's good. I was. Gonna say, I can let you know if it smells like you're in, and I'll message you, maybe to do it early. We do. It's not pleasant. Our maintenance team. We sometimes get messages that I know it's not desirable. It's not fun. They are amazing. And we have them out there every single day

[92:04] really helps they. They've got some special stuff. I went out with them one day, and they took me on like this is how we clean up everything. So I was pouring the the powdery stuff on that absorbs the nastiness. And then we're having to sweep it all up. So yeah, they've got some processes. But it's a It really helps for sure. Create like people want to go back there, because I hear people say I don't want to go in the garage, because the stair to the elevator still like urine like that's not that much money in the scheme of things to maintain, to get people to want to go there. So I think it's a worthy investment. Absolutely keep. Keep up the good work. One question that I had on that photo shoot. Did they pay a location fee? No. Who knows that, Terry? But I really just want the clothes. It's fine. They looked adorable, but no, they did not.

[93:09] Must not have been so stinky on that particular day. Just any other questions. Okay? So last slide I have for y'all so as we were talking about, there's maintenance. We're trying to get ahead of a maintenance plan. So one of the things one of the projects that we're going to be tackling in 2024. And this is worked into the budget is we're going to be putting together a Cmcg plan. So we're going to be hiring in a consultant to do an assessment of all of the facilities to let us know, like here are the high priority things. This is how we would stagger the approach eventually the goal. In some case I didn't say it. Cmcg is construction manager, general contractor. that's what it stands for, and so the idea is you hire in a general manager, and they hire in some in order to work on a large project. This is similar to what facilities Fleet does. So it's it's something that already happens within the city.

[94:11] but we're gonna be applying it to the garages. And ideally, we'll get ourselves on a cadence where people experience there's been lots of opening and closing of garages ideally. We would tackle one garage a year and do as much of head to toe, refurbishment, clean up, and then move on to the next garage and get ourselves on a cadence where we're doing one garage a year. It won't feel so scatter, shot. There will always be things. It's construction where we can, but hopefully there will be a little bit more planned games that we can. We can get a help since the last time we met the past couple of times rates in the garages changed a little bit. Has there been any feedback or anyone chatter from that from the community. I've not heard too much about it. Theresa. Do you know Sam's been Fielding? Too many questions about that, or Chris?

[95:07] I'm Aurora. No, I don't think so. I have not heard of saying it. and I guess the are you talking about the rates in the garage haven't changed. You're talking about the On street dynamic pricing because we haven't got date list yet. So it doesn't change. Yeah, it will go. It will change. Yeah, it will change what we're doing. Yeah. I think I saw one comment from somebody saying, like. you're increasing our rates by a dollar. But But it's only been one. So we'll see you what comes of it. thank you with the question mark. You're welcome. Thanks for the update. Not a problem. Alright so easy. If I can stop sharing great. Well, so next matters from commission, it's a proof full of our top priorities. And

[96:06] Terry, there's a question I'm gonna have for you as part of that. But this is the last page of our packet. and a few items were yellow. But do we need to? Just we can discuss the actual wording. The other second part of this that I wanted to know is like these, we use this to kind of like, how we measure things. You know, we actually use this kind of to gauge the funding of the the ambassadors. So to a degree, this is helps become our guiding principles to a degree. But are there things that we can do then to help forward? Some of these items are, are any of these things that we can actually use to impact our agendas. And what we're actually working on, that's maybe great. We have this, the list.

[97:01] Can we use this to actually impact change other than what's presented to us. Are any of these things. So let me get more specific with my question. Let's take it may be like the long term invest investing, planning, creating an implement a 5 year vision plan. And consider development of underutilized par parcels, you know. So far that's always been when things are brought to us by staff, we deal with them. I didn't know how many of these we could actually become like action items for us where I know we're not really directing staff to do stuff. But how can we make movement on these? I think it's about when the staff makes their work plan for the year, and making sure that

[98:02] those items are reflected in our priorities. Cause I don't think that we can say, hey? Now, work on this thing that you've never heard of before. Are you insinuating? It should be, if you are agree with it, of cutting the amount of things. If we don't believe there. of things we can act on cause, I'd rather have less. There's a lot here less that we can actually do stuff related to like. And I feel like some of these are more specific, whereas, like, encourage the work, the return to work like, what do you think does that mean? Tell people to go into the office like? Well, I guess that's maybe like a route of what my question is on this. Thanks, Christine. You have to drop in a way, that's my question is, I'm still a little bit unclear, is like, yes, these are priorities, and these are what we if they're just what we're measuring things against, it's I don't mind a longer list. If if it's

[99:08] what can we actually do anything about? And we can't do anything about considering longer term, you know. when we when every car self strives a and so on. Yeah. And we can't actually do anything about that, you know, I can see removing that. So in a way, I'm a little bit confused as to like what this list is used for. Yeah, I think it's used for connecting to where our top priorities intersect with, like the budget, or what letters we put to council like. If that's why I think the list could be possibly a little smaller and more specific. because I think we're very focused on the top priority, which is our number one. So it makes sense. I think the return to work bullet. I don't know what that means, so I would propose cutting it unless we know what it means.

[100:02] Well, II see that being an important thing. Well, I look at the the headers. We have 5 headers, 5 headers. Seems. Okay. There's like supporting statements under that that we can deal with. The return to work. you know, like DVD. Puts on the the office Olympics, for instance. and I think from a vibrant downtown. I think the fact that everyone's working from home is a long-term consideration, and has again a huge snowball effect. For how many people go out for lunch. How many people do shopping downtown? And so yeah, and eventually, like the collapse of downtown, because there's no one there during the day. Yeah, like, so to me, like, the return to work is an important consideration. How much can we actually do about it? Well, the office Olympics is one event for one day a year. But there can be more things that we could actually that are important to Dmc

[101:02] with the daytime being driven by office workers. Yeah, no, I agree with that. I think the phrasing is very general, whereas, like I, I saw a really good example of something the other day, and then I was like I was gonna share like I work at kill. And it's a Co. Working space. They negotiated with pizza Alberico, a lunch that pizza catered, and it was lower cost, and if you would go there and they scaled it, and like 50 people got a flood from Pizza Rio Virgo, and they're doing it every month, and it's less than if you would go there. So it saves people money. It helps bring continuous business for pizza, real Veraco. It's a win-win, right? Like people get to eat for less. And the business has like recurring stable business. Right? Like, II wanna see more like projects. More things like that. I mean, obviously, someone took initiative to make that happen. But, like specifically a directing potentially like, it's too expensive to eat downtown like that was a concern we saw. It's a very specific thing

[102:12] that possibly we could do. But to me return to work is like returning to buying things downtown. Is that like the you know it, it's a little general for me, and some of the other things feel a lot more specific which I like but that's not the only I mean, I think, that the the bottom bullets are we? We feel very disconnected from those, because well, I think that that's where the steps both long term and yearly work plan. I mean, it's not something that we would talk about every meeting. But yeah, when that time of year comes around. And I'm okay with more general bullet points, because

[103:00] you sort of tie yourself. If if they're very specific, you, you can tend to tie yourself into an initiative for the sake of that. The one thing I could see with return to work working from home is working. So I think maybe it's the working downtown. This may be just like the term. Encourage the return to work downtown or into office, or something like that. Yeah. yeah, that would at least help there. Yeah. the strategic partnership thing is this something that someone else has already have in mind that has in mind? Or was this? RI, yeah. I have been talking about this with other. There's one other Commissioner who I've known for a very long time. and he so there's 2 parts to this multi Commission meetings. This is one of the reasons I wanted to be Chair, so I could be on the every other month meeting to hear from KJ. Or from you Jid, and

[104:01] the other one Junction but then I also like know the the Commissioner for the Arts Commission, and that's impacting us, what with the art on the garage. And so I think we need more communication right now, we're also siloed. We don't talk to you. We don't know what the other groups are doing. And so, Terry, this is kind of strategic partnerships, and the one the second bullet point under long term investment planning. Connect. Now. that's a different one. I'm I was just getting confused there. The annual sum with Dbp bid Council see you and other groups, you know. So I view this as 2 parts one. I I invited the board chair of Dvp. To our retreat. They don't know we exist. and we are both working on the same stuff and I think we should meet with

[105:00] but we can't just do it, because anytime there's more than 3, 2 of us in a room. It it we deal with a meeting loss. So we have to have this organized in a way, but I think we should meet with the downtown Boulder Partnership Board and have meetings with them. work together to enact that 5 Year Vision plan for them to know what we're doing as the city that we have, that we are only liaison, that they don't even know exists, and that we're the ones getting a third of a million dollars to help the ambassadors, and they don't even know we exist. And so I see Kerry nodding. So I would like to have like meetings with them. I would like to have meetings with, like the other commissions, whether it's arts, commission, or other thing transportation. We should talk to transportation sometimes, because, like. what do they think about line and and stuff like that? So that's some of my, that's one of my passions is, how can we work better versus always having to go through staff? How can we collaborate more. John? I'll just add, that is great idea. Before chip left. He was really trying to figure out a way. So we have 3 different boards of directors. We have 3 different budgets. They're all interconnected.

[106:11] and in all the downturn partnership as a whole. We're all working towards the same goals, but the boards are extremely siloed and staff winds up, giving the exact same presentation 3 times a month to 3 different boards of directors, and then our CEO comes to Dmc. And does the same thing, and we would absolutely love the opportunity. To work more collaboratively because we all are working towards the same goals. Ii would love once patina gets here, if we can kind of look at that moving forward. But one suggestion I would have is, we're trying to look at how we can consolidate our 3 boards internally, but until we get to that point. maybe it is a representative from the Downtown Management Commission is assigned to each one of our boards so that way. It's one person who's getting an in-depth idea of what each of our boards do. But I think we'll have an overall better understanding of

[107:13] what we're all working towards that way. And that sounds like a great idea. Yeah, there's different ways. We can do this. III don't mean for all this all 3 to get there. But yeah, we are going as city liaisons plugging into pre-existing things. But II do have a a premonition that the consultant hired to figure out what's going on with the board is because there's an assessment that it's not working well, that there's too much duplication, not enough recruitment. So I don't know when you hire consultants. They typically cut stuff so like, or combine or reorg as the former consultant. So II guess I'm curious to see what will come out of that, because I agree with you done. There seems to be a lot of duplication and miscommunication, because they're so siloed, and maybe that will come through

[108:06] in the assessment from the consultants about at least the like you did. Whatever bids one. I mean to me, it's so obvious it should be combined into one. But like, that's just my opinion. So like, I have, the city charter will allow that. Yeah, I think the city doesn't. From what I've heard, they don't think that the current state is successful. What is what is the timeline of the consultant work and recommendations? I I know, they finished. I guess we have to ask Staff. and I'm not 100% sure. I know they they just mentioned that in a meeting today, but I don't know what the timeframe is. This survey just closed? Last Monday, or something like that. So I assume they're yeah. No, they actually met with all the Board secretaries yesterday to get some opinions from us, but

[109:02] you know, definitive. So they're still in information. Gathering 3 steps from the very first step right now, it's just a gathering. Yeah. So it's gonna take a while. It's gonna take a while. And with the new head of Dvp, seems like. There's not a whole lot that we can do other than what we've already done. With that joint meeting that we had earlier this year. Continue with that. Yeah, I think I think getting invited to those things, at least in the interim. Trying to be more connected, would help if you could maybe send us the times when those meetings are, we could figure out who's works for what schedule or ideally like. We wouldn't come for the whole Board meeting one way Terry comes for all of ours, II depending on the duration of them and stuff. You know. How long are they, Terry? They're long they're at least an hour and a half like. So our

[110:01] and we we meet like on the third Thursday, or we have a very specific cadence. So. but this is all good to hear, because it should fall in line with by the time Latina starts, and our efforts, and really wanting to consolidate things. to have you guys in that group of conversations. We are all for it, and we would welcome the opportunity to look how we how we could collaborate the best to make sure that everybody's feeling like we're all working most efficient efficiently towards all of our goals. and does come to 2 of our 3 board meetings so. and I've come to your meeting to to the Bid Board meeting before, so I don't think there's any. because if they're public meetings right? Oh, the board meetings are public. Okay? I didn't know. Yeah.

[111:00] But I think, yeah. We might need Lisa on our staff here as secretary to help coordinate schedules and meetings, and who can get to one? But I think in general it'd be wise for one of us to get assigned to each like until you guys, until the Dpp consolidates your boards. we should probably like one person takes this one. So we and that someone takes this one, and someone takes that one. So we're not like always like being reintroduced to like what's going on and what each 1 one became like. The the liaison to each one, and the kind of the same way that we would wish. Council was here at our meetings. At times. I think this is a really good first step to consolidate the power of our teams. I know that, at least with the big board there is at least one council member in attendance at every one of those meetings. Yeah, there's usually 2 there at the bid board. I was. Gonna say, Terry, in particular. What we like is we want. We don't love to hear about stuff like after, and they've already been decided and the strategies confirmed. And we're just informed it's not meaningful to us as a board. We like to be like involved in the strategy, or just know about it. So that we're like aware early on, because I think we find that sometimes we find out about stuff like.

[112:18] Oh, that happened. We didn't even know about it. And it worked for us. We feel like. but we are on this commission representing S. The businesses or citizens at large in the so. you know, we feel like that. We have at least a meaningful seat at the table. People to say, like, you know, we're trying to speak to what we think would be successful, given who we represent. So I think it would be good to not and to help us. I think we'll make it more meaningful for us to as a decide. So he would tell me things all the time that came up in their meetings, that I had no idea what's going on so.

[113:01] And then I think we need to build that into our agendas. So as we. So when we have our every other month planning meetings, I think we need to have like 5, 10 min for each of the representatives. Well, you know again, Carrier, you're here. But in a way we need to be able to like circulate that information we found among our board as well our commission. So it doesn't just end up with like one person knows that we need to be able to distribute that knowledge. So I think we need to start building some share time of like what we. Here's what Terry says, but we are a different commission. We do have a different opinion in a different lens. But we do have it similar goals. But we might have like. here's what they say, but I think we should do it this way. Kind of approach, but it's for them to do. But we're just talking to each other monthly. It's a lot of work. So that's why we're looking at ways that we can consolidate so tomorrow or this Thursday the Dvp board meets

[114:03] and that's our advocacy. That's our 501 C. 6. That's our membership and advocacy arm. The bid board is meeting next Thursday, and we're that's strictly presentation of the 2024 work plan and proposed budget. The other board is our 501, which is our nonprofit, and under that arm is all of our events. so they don't meet until October second. and again I just wanna make sure like you said it's a it's public meetings. I don't. I don't foresee any. I don't know why you guys haven't been included in the past. But, I can't foresee any reason that we wouldn't welcome you guys to yeah. And in a way, I don't know that we need to speak. You know, it's we're not asking for a seat on your boards. I just wanna listen. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's a great idea. And knowing Chip what he had intended to do, he just didn't get it done before he left, but this was a direction he wanted to go in to try to break down some of the silos and make sure that we were all working

[115:14] as a bigger community group to get things done. Well. So 2 things, I think, need to happen. Carrie, can you do you have like information sheets? Or can you write a paragraph or anything. Just so we should have 5 people on our commission right now we have 4 and so I guess I'd like, for, like just a little bit of information what the 3 different boards are. so that maybe within our group we can say, Oh, I have more interest in this one. I have more interested in this one or that time just works for me. I can never make an eighta meeting, or whatever someone might say. I don't think I have everyone's contact. Don, can I just send it to you for this? Why don't you send it to Lisa?

[116:01] Oh, okay, that's good to know. Okay. we have all sorts of rules. You don't have city council. It's like they have. It's like the Brady bunch. So because it is time. And I need to get my kids to my piano lessons. if we add, add, encourage through. To return to work downtown, and or return to work in the office. If we put like 2 words like that at the end of that one. Can we move? So would someone want to move approval of our priorities at the end of the bullet points in the bullet points. and very change it all to the same color, same color, font font size.

[117:13] Great II so I at least I don't know that we had the appropriate language there. But To make it official I would like to move, or does anyone move the approval of the 2023 top Dmc priorities with those changes, what we just discussed? I just tried to put in an official language. This is good at that for us. We're good. Oh. is approved. Yeah, big motion motion to adjourn. Nope. Seconded. we will see you all in November.

[118:04] Good thanks. Everyone really productive. Thank you. And to go to meet people so.