June 5, 2023 — Cannabis Licensing Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:03] Which Kristen did did you decide was going to start things up? That would be me welcome to the city of Boulder, cannabis, Licensing and Advisory Board Meeting for Monday, June fifth, 2,023. At the time is 305 pm. I will begin by displaying and reading the instructions for virtual meetings and rules of decorum. public participation at beverage, licensing authority and cannabis, licensing and advisory meetings. The city has engaged with community members to co-create a vision for productive, meaningful, and inclusive civic conversations. This vision supports physical and emotional safety for community members, staff and board and commission members, as well as democracy. For people of all ages, identities lived experiences and political perspectives.

[1:07] More information about this vision and the projects community engagement process can be found at the link on your screen. The following are examples of rules of decorum found in the boulder revised code and other guidelines that support the this vision. These will be upheld. During this meeting all remarks and testimony shall be limited to matters related to city business. No participant. She'll make threats or use other forms of intimidation against any person. Obscenity, racial epithets, and other speech and behavior that disrupts or otherwise impedes the ability to conduct the meeting are prohibited. participants are required to sign up to speak, using the name they are commonly known by, and individuals must display their whole name before being allowed to speak online.

[2:05] All right. Ready for roll call that I am Member Anderson still. No, no response. Yet Member Christie did email his absence. Remember, Daniel. present Member Green. I'm not seeing. Oh, hmm! So she was going to join us. I got a text from her she. her son, is in a State championship little League game, and she's driving back and forth. She was going to join us virtually our our, this Not with the camera. But I guess she didn't quite make it yet. Hey? Thank you. Vice chair. Keegan.

[3:00] present share conspiracy. Present member noble. I ex officio member Thompson, did email her absence. So X official member, Bailey present. We have it quorum. I will. Oh. I I'm just. I'm wondering if sand or do you want to introduce our extra extra attorney or our our attorney. I'm happy to do that. Yes, so so thank you. Chair. I am really excited to introduce to you, Andy Prohard, who recently joined the city attorney's office. I believe it was May 15, and He comes from the ages office. He can describe to you a little bit about his background. when I hand it over to him. But we've been doing some training, he and I related to lab. He's also has other responsibilities. He's going to be

[4:12] representing the it department and no, I now I'm forgetting purchasing and and contracts and things like that which and he has a lot of great experience experience with boards and supporting boards and commission. So we're super excited to have him here. You already saw a a little bit of his work in the packet There was a memo in there that he did relating to the use of the term marijuana? Really great work, Andy. Thank you so much, and I'm excited to hand the reins off to you while I have enjoyed my time. What supporting this board I am anxious to get back to my main duties, and

[5:01] I know and and believe that Andy will do a fantastic job, and I will continue to support him as I am his supervisor. So we're gonna continue to work together to to make sure that you all here on this board, get all the support that you need. So with that, I'm gonna hand it out to Andy. Yeah, thank you. Hi! Hi! Board Obviously, Andy Froard. I come from the Colorado Attorney General's office. I've represented 3 boards, so they were mostly there was the first one was the autonomous mobility task force, which was part of C dot and then I represented 2 broadband boards, and one of them was engaged in, I guess, fairly contentious. decision making that included quasi judicial decision making. And so I'm excited to come in and help with the creation of this process, and to support you all

[6:00] stylistically, I'm pretty hands on, so I'll probably I guess. Don't be afraid to direct me and staff to, to collaborate and work on things, to produce first drafts and sort of get things into shape before they they come your way. And I would really love to get to know all of you. So at some point if you have time, I'd love to have coffee or have a conference call. Just so I can get some of your perspectives and learn how I can support your efforts. And if there's things that can be improved or tweaked, or just generally to get an idea of what your thoughts are. so be looking out for that contact shortly from me and The last thing I'll say is. I think it's it's really great. I I know you all spend a lot of time. I haven't had a ton of a a chance to talk to you about how much time you spend, really. But but that's really one of the great things of government is when people come in and spend a lot of time committing to something sort of selflessly without any any benefits to them personally. And so kudos to you. And if I can make that easier on you. please let me know. So good meeting you all.

[7:12] Thanks, Andy, and in terms of the transition. This will be my last meeting with Cloud, and Andy will take over next month. Hit the ground running. thanks. And and you're okay with us calling you Andy. Yes, yeah, if I'm not mistaken, all of us are fine with us, being called by our first name. But I was waiting to see what one of the Christians call you to see if they would call you on solar for a heart or something like that. No, please call me Andy. I thank you. Yeah, welcome. I appreciate the thing you put together also. so I think now I got it. Scroll back. continuing on with our agenda is the approval of the Cannabis, Licensing and Advisory Board meeting. Minutes from May first, 2,023.

[8:04] Does anyone have any concerns about past minutes? Corrections. Brian motions to prove the May minutes and a second on that. Anyone. Ethan, I know you're just okay. any one of those or abstaining? Okay, good and next is, I want to know. Excuse me. Elections of chair and vice chair. Certainly. So elections of chair and vice chair is the next item on our agenda. For this process we will typically hear nominations for the chair and then proceed through that process and then move on for vice chair.

[9:01] The point of consideration. I know that we're missing 2 members. If we want to continue forward with the election or nomination process, or do you want to table this for another meeting. We have a fuller tenants. Brian's got a good point. That was the reason why we delayed that until this meeting I think we have even less than the last time we chose to delay. And then, just tell me to get ahead of ourselves here, but just scheduling for July, we'll it's likely that we may not have a July meeting. We can, of course, discuss this later on in a meeting, but that our next opportunity to have election, or to have a meeting after this. What may not be until August as well. What do folks think. Robin? I guess I would check in with you. Chair to see how you're feeling if you're you know. Willing? Obviously, you're gonna do this meeting. But are you okay waiting? Are you hoping to have more certainty about what your role is going to be going forward?

[10:08] I I'm not in any hurry. I fully support waiting till we have the bigger board present, but did want to check in with you on how you're feeling. Well, I think, as I have said before, although I don't know if I said it publicly in this form, but I might have just mentioned it to Brian. That I'm fine with continuing as a chair, even if it is for a month or 2. I was, you know, if we were going to have elections, I was going to see who else wants to be chair. And and you know I don't wanna or the position if someone else really wants to reach her. I'm fine with that But I'm also fine continuing on. I mean, I I enjoy being the chair. I don't. But it's not my life's work, I guess.

[11:02] just speaking from only for myself, I think my I share a member nobles sentiment that I would like to have full membership possible here for this decision, but I'm also comfortable. remaining chair until we have time to have an election with everyone present over here from Ethan and Allison to yeah, for the same reason that we postponed elections. last meeting. I think it's appropriate to to push these out again out of respect for those who are not present. Sounds like a plan like, do we need to vote on that? Okay, you're you're muted all right. And no, I don't think there's any need for that. Just we'll just make note of it. That will show up to the next agenda. Yeah, move that to the next meeting. Yep. okay, good

[12:01] So next, I have general public comments for the board. is. It was decided to be heard before agenda. Item 4. Due to timing for those following along in the meeting packet. Okay. sounds great. And I see Elizabeth is already here. So, continuing on in the agenda is agenda. Item number 2, general public comments for the board. Do we have everybody in the room. So the way that this new zoom format works is that there are people who are panelists. which are include city staff and board members only, and then the presenters, if we have them. And then everyone else is under attendees. I, as the zoom host can see the attendees, but no one else can, so I will be able to

[13:12] make sure that whoever needs to speak for public comment can speak, but that's why you're not saying that so just 2 more names that I'm not familiar with, and or maybe I just don't remember. And I am familiar with Christopher and Jolly. Now. Is it Galia jolly? I'm not sure how how to pronounce that one. Christopher says, City of Boulder. No, yes, Hello, Chair. I am a new licensing specialist with the licensing division for the City of Boulder. This is my first time attending the meeting, so I'm just here to learn. All right. Welcome, Christopher. and good afternoon board members. Elizabeth Crow, with housing and human services on my colleague, Julia Daly, and I will be presenting on the C fund update shortly. I might have guessed that. But thank you for clarifying that it's better not to make any assumptions right?

[14:03] Okay? So in that case we're ready for general public comments. Right? That is correct. Again, public comments will be limited to 3 min per speaker. If you wish to speak you can use. Raise your hand using the icon at the bottom of your screen. If anyone is calling in by phone, they can raise their hand by pressing Star 9. Do we have anyone for general public comment? I'm not seeing any raised hands in the attendees. Well, we're waiting. I'll just mention that Evan did text back and says he's not going to be able to make the meeting today

[15:04] and still not raised hands for me. Chair coinsman, would you like me to close the general public comment section. I think. that seems appropriate. Okay. so we're still gonna do 3. And then 5. Correct. Okay? So apologies. we're in this new process of calling agenda items. Agenda. Item number 3 matters from the cannabis enforcement officer. Yeah, I don't have anything of for the panel, but I was wondering if anybody has any questions for me that you guys have been waiting to ask

[16:08] Officer kicknick, are you sort of attending every couple of meetings, or what's you? How are you doing things? So that if I do have a question or need a minute to think about things before I'm attending every meeting. I think I've missed 2, and that was for personal reasons. I don't stay on the whole time you guys go a little late. Well, and I saw you on the agenda. I just wasn't exactly sure that what you might have for us. So that's good good to remember to bring things if we've got them. Yeah, I think that that's new, so that if I do have anything I need to present or ask you guys, I there's a place for me to do that. So that's the new addition to the format.

[17:00] I I guess I do have one quick question, if you don't mind. Chair. No, yeah, I I actually was thinking, I I I'll let you ask, and then I'll I'll I'll work on my question. So the Emmy, the Marijuana Enforcement Division, has this new or they're they're getting ready to roll out this new dashboard where you can see underage violations and that sort of thing. How do you and the boulder police department feed into that, if at all? And and if not, do you do your own, are you? Is your staying stuff back up and running, and how do you report it? We report our stings via just a report we document the day we did it, and what facilities we visited, and what the results were a pass or fail we Usually the first one of the year we do with the State. so They don't. I don't have to report it to them because they were there, so they know what the results were. any others that I do, or that they do, most of the time we ask each other to

[18:13] to attend. So usually there's we're both doing the same ones. I do some additional ones. Some spot checks that the State doesn't do. but I keep a running log sheet of those And right now we're not tied into their dashboard. but they're still We're gonna talk about that. A few of them are out on vacation. So when they come back, we're gonna see if there's a way for us to add our information to the State. But right now we don't participate in their dashboard. Okay? And just a quick follow up the log that you keep. Is that something you could share with Cloud. Yeah, anytime. You guys want to know how many inspections I've done and and

[19:03] what the results are, I'd be glad to tell you. Yeah, I mean, I'd love to see it in the packet. Just an update from you. With that. Thank you. You are welcome. So, Pam, I have a few questions. in in 2 different arenas, and and maybe this is more like protocol Kristen's and or Sandra or Andy. When we get to the policy suggestion form. I'm trying to figure out the legalities of the consultation room. and I mean, we can wait until we get to there in the agenda. Or is this the only time that Pam gets to talk. And, Pam, do you mind me calling? You am? Or do you want to be?

[20:06] And So what would be most appropriate. From the group's point of view on that one I'll have to defer to the city attorney if there's any legalities of what can and cannot be discussed. I think that as long as you're okay with hanging on. I'd like to just get through the agenda because it is one of the items. And that's on our agenda to discuss. And actually. is it the next one? No, I guess it's after the update. are you okay with hanging out now? Okay, that's what I figured would be most appropriate. I just want to make sure that we can call on her if we need to call on her. And the other questions have to do, which I don't think is technically on our agenda for today. But Most people probably know there was an article in the newspaper yesterday.

[21:11] about our some of our work, or some of our discussions that The essence of the article was to say that the hospitality business will be brought to city council at some point in time, and there's a pretty good discussion of fairly balanced discussion, I would say by the author, and one of the things that talked about in the article, that that it just made me wonder. you know, when we put together the recommendations that those under the age of 25 would not be allowed to in hospitality suites. I wonder about the enforceability of that. And and, as you might have. as you said just a moment ago, that might be, you might yield or or allow the city attorneys to answer that rather than you. But I'm also wondering from the police point of view.

[22:08] Oh, depending, you know, if it's approved and how the statute is written. we have full enforcement. Right? So if it's written that it has to be 25 and older, that's that's what we will enforce. So it's the same as if you know those under the age of 21 try to get into a alcohol establishment. Okay? And just in case everyone knows where there was a was the article yesterday which Brian. Thank you, Brian, for forwarding that to me. Congratulations on Robin on Robin and Stacey might be joining us on getting recorded. But anyways, all right. So I think we're ready for the policy suggests and wait. No, we're gonna do it. 5. Okay.

[23:01] certainly. Our next item on the agenda is set as agenda number 5 in the packet. but we are moving it up. That is the update on the Substance Education Awareness Fund. We have Elizabeth Curl with us. Hi, good afternoon, board members. Elizabeth Crow again. Deputy director for the city's Housing and Human services department. It's actually been a couple of years almost to the month since I was last here providing you an update on our substance education awareness fund or C fund program, and I'm very excited to be able to introduce to you my colleague, Julia Daly. who can come on camera now. we've had a lot of changes in the program and also within our staffing support for this program in the last couple of years. One is that I transitioned about a year ago to

[24:00] a new role in the department, and that left my vacancy as investments manager. which Jalia is now filling, and has been since the end of October. getting up to speed on all of the intricacies and nuances of the C fund and is gonna be providing the the bulk of the presentation for you all today. we've got a slide show that I will forward, and I think I have the permissions to do that. We'll find out in just a moment, and Kristen or Kristen correct, will correct me if I'm wrong. But before I turn it over to Julia, I just want to thank you. for this for your service. on this board. Know that these are topics. very important to you. And it's part of our role in the Housing and human Services department along with our colleagues and tax and finance and the city attorney's office to make sure that the revenue from the recreational marijuana tax resources really put to very good use and very strategic use. for youth, prevention

[25:02] of substance, use and abuse. So with that we'll introduce Julia and I'll go ahead and get the slides up, Julie, if you want to start by introducing yourself, and then we'll move ahead. Hello, everyone as Elizabeth mentioned. My name is Julia Daly. still fairly new to my role as the human. So human services invest its manager and the Housing and Human Services Department, which I am thoroughly enjoying thus far. Still learning a lot, but also feeling pretty confident in certain things, and so I am very thankful to have Elizabeth here for her support during this presentation. And so. if I seem like, I am just having a cliffhanger she will likely jump into help out. Julia will interject really quickly, and say, I actually am not able to screen. Share Kristen, if you can help out with that, that would be great. It says it's been disabled or okay. Great. Thank you.

[26:13] Yes. Caitlin is our back end administrator for our meetings. of which we are very grateful. Thank you. I should not be confused by 3 staff members whose names begin with K. But then, before you start real quickly, Caitlin, you're watching the waiting room. Should Stacey join us? Right? So again, this presentation is put together just for the members of the Cannabis Licensing Advisory Board. and we will get going.

[27:03] So to provide a little bit of background. Some of you may have been on the board the last time that Elizabeth presented. Some of you may not have been. I know I wasn't. So. the substance, Education and Awareness Fund is a part of the revised Code 3, 14, one legislative intent for public safety, enforcement and administrative purposes, and for comprehensive substance, abuse programs, including and without limitation, prevention, treatment, education, responsible use, intervention, and monitoring with an emphasis on youth. And so that is the primary focus of the funds that are collected through the marijuana tax revenue and the vape tax revenue and so back in 2,013 is when it was approved by voters, and then in 2,016 is when the actual fund came on board and started

[28:00] funding programs within the community to provide substance, education, and awareness to youth and to their parents and other trusted adults. And then the first round of funds that were actually allocated started in 2,017 as a 2,021. There's been the addition of the vape tax. And so it originally started out as just the marijuana text revenue and It's been a great addition promoting prevention in the community for vaping. And then just in 2,022 there was a second round of See fund awards or grants. It is a 5 year cycle. The way that the funding runs is 5 every 5 years. And so we are in year 2 of our second 5 year round.

[29:01] so the way that we actually have the C fund structured currently is that the city is the financial sort of manager of the An At. But what I said, the financial manager. that was, I wanted to use a better word than that, but couldn't think of one as we monitor and receive the funds And then we partner with Boulder county community services to provide technical assistance and training to our community partners, and so on. On the city side, we hold the fund round. We get contracts out into the community and we review end of your reports and the our community partner. Our partners with boulder community services provide consultation, technical assistance. they facilitate our quarterly meeting. And they do program data tracking as well. to assist us with like annual reports and things of that nature.

[30:06] So the major focus and goal of the C fund is to do 4 things create widespread community distribution and awareness of the information and programs that are available within the city of Boulder. Second, to shift community perceptions of the risk associated with substance use, including, you know, the impact of drugs, alcohol, recreational marijuana, and the use of prescription drugs among children and youth. Thirdly, is to prevent and reduce youth use of alcohol and recreational recreational drugs, including marijuana. and last, but not least, is to reduce accidental ingestion of marijuana and other drugs. This is the first segment of the

[31:04] C Fund logic model. And we all love a good logic model that helps us to, you know. Think about how are we making an impact in the community? How are we measuring any? How are we measuring that impact? And so one of the things that we do is partner programming. And we have strategic activities that are going on in the community to enhance the work that we're doing. and that is providing, you know, technical assistance and substance use prevention training for staff that implement the C fund programs. And so on the youth level. there's alternative recreational activities that are put on by groups. that are considered to be natural highs. And so those are activities that kids can go out in the community and do and engage in instead of engaging in negative behaviors or behaviors that lead to substance, use and abuse. there are pure mentorship between youth in

[32:09] other programs. And also when we think of Yo-ab, which we'll get to a little bit lower further down in the presentation. But the youth opportunities and Advisory Board. And then there's youth, adult leadership activities where trusted adults engage in activities and leadership with youth. Next is for the caregivers and our program facilitators engage with parents to help them learn about the most current data and best practices. to help, you know, train them and increase their familiar knowledge of how to engage with their youth and communicate with their youth about substance, use, and abuse.

[33:02] And lastly, for for other adults that may not be parents or program staff that are trusted, adults that engage in any activities or just engage with youth. And those, again, are to provide training to those adults on how to be positive role models with our youth and other adult youth leadership activities and then promoting responsible retailer practices. This is one of our community partners that promote and reduce access, promote youth. Per excuse me, promote the reduction of youth, access to substance uses to to substances. And then, lastly, is a community education on substance use issues, and my apologies that I am so tongue-tied

[34:00] next is the outcomes or what we you know look for the funds to be doing in terms of impacting in the community. And so partner outcomes include increase implementation and of substance use, prevention strategies, expansion of substance use prevention through a collaboration work and then implementation and sustainability of equitable practice within each agency's culture. And so what that really means is, you know, encouraging with the community partners that receive grantee funding from the C fund to collaborate with each other so that they're not necessarily duplicating services. And to you know, implement a sustainable model that that promotes a culture of equity within each one of their agencies, and also to reflect

[35:02] hopefully that the staff that are providing the services reflect the youth that are utilizing, utilizing the services. And then actual program outcomes that we intend and hope to see is that parents and trusted adults are setting clear expectation for use regarding alcohol and marijuana consumption. Parents and trusted adults will also have an influence on youth decisions, to vape and use alcohol and other substances adults and youth will perceive the risk associated with substance. Use and vaping. and lastly, that youth will feel that they have a trusted adult that they can go to if they have any issues, especially where peer pressure and things like that are concerned. Lastly, are the actual goals of the

[36:01] substance. Use education and awareness fund, and we break it down into short term, intermediate and long term goals. And these are goals that are worked through in periodic times. And so for short-term, you know, we intend to have widespread community distribution. An awareness of the information, and so helping to do that is being a part of this meeting today? and making sure that we have a good platform online as well for folks to access any resources that they might need intermediate would be to shift community perceptions of risk associated with substance, use, and abuse. long-term. Our prevention of youth, substance, use and abuse, and the fourth goal would be to prevent and reduce actual ingestion of marijuana and other drugs. And that's for not only youth and kids, but also your animals and stuff, too, you know.

[37:09] so that's a pretty important one. And within this entire framework of prevention activities. you know, they will reduce and or eliminate health disparities that are associated with substance, use, and and abuse. So some major elements of the C fund include utilizing multiple resources and grantee supports for increased capacity and long-term impact. And so through that we have five-year grant cycles. As I mentioned previously. this past year, in 2,022, we offered off cycle investments to community partners. we create learning every learning, environment and environment of collaboration among see fun partners

[38:11] and then provide training and technical assistance. for community partners that receive C fund funding. These are all of our partners. We have the names listed on the left side, and then our grantees, I should say, and then their actual logos some of them you may recognize from just working in the community and in the capacity that you do, and some of them you may not. And the text is not that big and so just thought it might be helpful to have that there on the left. Some fun highlights that we thought we would like to share with you is that for the 2022 grant term which spans January first to

[39:05] December 30. First about 2,200 youth were served across all of our grantees and pillar, which is the prevention and intervention for lifelong alternative recovery. which is through Boulder, county health or community health. Excuse me. they partner with Boulder County public health to distribute, to distribute over 60 narcan kits and do overdose for reversal trainings. at the pride fast. Last year. Boulder County public health. they are funded through our vape funding, and they actually hosted a media campaign to help reduce youth use of vapor, vaping products, whether they be just tobacco or marijuana containing. And they reached over 3,100 unique. I mean, excuse me 31,000 unique users with over 1.8 million impressions.

[40:12] and that's quite impressive. I think. I'm not a huge tech person, or anything like that. But that's saying that, you know, they're reaching a lot of families within the boulder community. And people are going on their website and looking at the materials that they have available. and that's mainly use that are ages 18 to 21, which is a major part of You know our caption Caption area, or the group of folks that we want to impact in the community. 90% of youth reported feeling support from the staff at the white Mcca of Northern Colorado, when they attended programs in the community. And they do that that includes like going bowling and different things like that that allows them to kind of engage with peers and with trusted adults and staff of the Y.M.C.A. Program, and that 76% also felt participation increased their self-confidence.

[41:13] and lastly, over 180 kits for quit. 180 quit kits were provided to youth who smoke or vape to help them quit. And that was a cool program that was started by youth that attend natural highs, and it was their thought to do that, and it includes chewing gum and other things that kind of take on some sensory. You know things that may cause somebody to want to smoke and One fun thing that I have that I could add is that one of our new off-cycle grantees, with, of which there, for for the 2,023 Grant cycle. does also offer fentanyl. test kits in addition to narcan

[42:02] emergency reversal medication as well for those that may ingest and and overdose. The Institute for Strengthening Families is a new initiative that was brought forth in 2022. That is a bilingual website for parents and youth alike to go on and find community resources and different things that are going on in the community. to help promote their communication with one another around substance use. and, you know, helps them to feel confident with communicating with each other, whether it's parent to youth or youth to parent. and we do anticipate that number rising to include a lot more folks once the site goes live. So the the site has kind of been in a pilot period right now, and once the school year jumps off and fall, it will become public, and so there should be far more attention and traffic to that website

[43:19] and pathways to prevention is a a program that is supported by our partners at Boulder County community services. that provides subsidized training and certification for peer specialists in the community and also for family specialists in the community to get certified on substance, use education with best practices and best interventions to engage with youth and The great thing about that is that there's, you know, the creation of potential jobs with getting that certification for folks. And so that's a really great way to get folks get getting paid for doing some of the things that they're passionate about

[44:10] and also promoting, you know, substance, education, and awareness in the community. And then, lastly, is our youth Opportunities Advisory Board, and they serve as a an advisory committee to the Substance, Education and Awareness Fund, and in the past had the capacity to vote on what things got funded that were folks submitted applications for and they did have input on our off-cycle funding opportunities. This past funding off on off-round funding cycle that we had and They engage in evaluation, and I know that they're really looking forward to getting the annual report that we are going to be publishing here later on, in the summer or early fall. to see what is the actual impact of the C fund dollars in the community. Live action and and living color. So we're excited to

[45:13] get that published here in the coming weeks or months, and thank you so much for your time. And I am sorry I was babbling. I've had a really bad headache today, but anyway, for more information, please contact myself. or Elizabeth Crow, my supervisor and the deputy director and we also provided our web page there available for you. Were there any questions or anything at this moment? I know I just kind of spat a lot of information at you. Speak up, Jalia. Thank you so much for your presentation. Is there? Where can we see the Boulder County Public Health media campaign that had all those impressions.

[46:06] Oh, the for the strengthening families. I believe it should be on our website. But we're happy to provide the link for you directly. I guess I was just going back to the thing that said that you guys had had, like 1.3 million impressions on a media campaign. That one. It's the third bullet that's through Boulder County public health. And so they track that information on their end because it's on their website. I thought you were, where's the Where's the media campaign? Can we see it? I don't have You should be able to. But I will do some research and get back to you on that. Is that okay? And I'm I just, I just love to see it. I haven't seen anything in the community.

[47:00] I must. Yeah, I think Allison can can step in here, and the short answer is, yes, we can. We can get you some more information on that. But, Allison, go ahead. Go for it, Allison. Yeah. So that particular campaign was around vape use. I believe it was the all fax no cap campaign. I can send some of the information and connect folks with my colleagues who were running that It was made by by young people. They had a lot of really great engagement on tik tok which is part of the reason why probably no one on this call has seen it. because they ads were specifically targeted towards young people. but let me see what I can find and maybe I can send it off to folks at city of folder and then connect anybody who's interested with my colleagues here. But it was in our tobacco education prevention partnership team. held that work and specifically run use vaping.

[48:05] and that just one follow up jolly and thank you for that, Allison. I appreciate it. I'd love to just see it. in the in your presentation. I was just sort of trying to look for the things that were specifically about marijuana and cannabis. This board is the cannabis licensing Board, and so just wondered what things were maybe the most focused on making youth aware of risks and downsides of marijuana. Use Good question. I am so one. The major thing is that each agency has their own specific targeted agenda that they do with the youth and how they deliver that information. I'm actually in the process of doing site visits to see that work first hand. but maybe Elizabeth, are you?

[49:06] We able to help provide some support on this one? So I think 1 one reality for a lot of our C. Fund grantees is that they're focused on risk perception. generally as well as specifically for various substances, including marijuana. same is true for kind of the trusted adult relationships. it's about kind of establishing that perspective. among you. Actually, I'm going to stop screen sharing, because then we can look at each other little better here. and so in some cases there's a very specific focus on marijuana versus other other substances and other times there's not One example, I think, of an organization that has programming that is more focused on marijuana is a natural highs where they're specifically talking about. And I think for many folks here are familiar with that organization.

[50:05] so they can focus really, specifically on on marijuana other organizations like the programming that the why does is focused on having sober events and kind of talking to youth about the range of addictive substances, including marijuana, but not exclusive to that. So I think that is a good question that we can kind of go back, and maybe Julia can get back in touch with a little bit more kind of granularity about the Pro. Up the programs that in 2,020 to very specifically looked at marijuana and focused on marijuana data. as opposed to kind of the general topic of risk perception which applies to to all drugs. and I think I mean folks on this in this board know, and and I think Allison can can chime in here as well. that it is that prevention structure that sometimes distinguishes, sometimes doesn't where the risk perception differs from alcohol to marijuana. To other substances. The healthy kids, Colorado survey indicates that where sometimes there is a substantial difference between the risk that you ascribed to one addictive substances and not to another.

[51:18] So that's something that's really one of those topics that's discussed at the Quarterly Grantee meetings. and that our colleagues with Boulder County Community services will will focus on with the grantees to help understand what those distinctions are. Why, you think that one substance is less harmful than another. and how that can impact their lives and choices moving forward. Thanks anyone else with questions. Oh, and Stacey's here. or Stacy may not be able to be visible.

[52:00] Brian. Hi! There! But, Elizabeth, you had mentioned that the last time you came and presented to our board is kind of in the depths of the pandemic and things like that. So I wanted to know, like, how your programs and programming and priorities are changing as we kind of like exit the pandemic phase. And so how that is impacting the kinds of things that I know you mentioned. You're in this kind of 5 year cycle. So maybe there's a little bit of inertia they did here, if I just wanted to know, like as we kind of enter the exit, excuse me a to this pandemic phase, how is that impacting some of your programming and outreach efforts. Sure, I can start here, Julia, and feel free to to jump in, since we collectively spanned the pandemic era so initially. 2020 21 as as I think everyone knows, the level of stress and that our youth were experiencing from the isolation from all of the other impacts. not being able to go to school, not being able to socialize.

[53:06] was really concerning. And of course there were a lot of impacts on C funded programs themselves. and our grantees. For the most part, we're able to pivot hold online events. some of them worked quite well. among you to keep them engaged even when they couldn't be together. Physically. there were some programs such as the programs the pillar programs that Julia mentioned earlier that actually had a pretty phenomenal growth in participation because they were online and made accessible to many, many other members of the community. So I think that was kind of one unintended outcome. of the pandemic is that online became such more a positive platform for people to tap into educational programs and connect in that way. but for the most part for the other grantees, it definitely was a challenge for them to really keep up with

[54:07] young people and keep them engaged in programming what we've seen kind of coming out of the pandemic And again, Allison feel free to jump in here as well. Is that heightened sense of awareness among youth themselves. They're seeing their, their, their friends, their classmates. you know, going through these stressors, so closely linked to other mental behavioral health trauma that they're facing. and also among parents who are again well aware, oftentimes, of this increase in stress. there have been some other positive developments, I I think, in our with our eyes as funders or investment partners in this work, and that is include the school district. kind of incorporating more of this work themselves. We actually had a reduction in need from the C fund to support programs like sources of strength which you will be able to increasingly fund as a part of the general programming for the district. that's one example. also the growth and many other organizations, including the 4 groups. As Julia mentioned that we've brought into the funding program out Boulder County span

[55:18] Now I blinking on on the other 2, I have a dream, and I missedad. these are organizations that had already had some level of programming on substance use prevention. And they've really ramped that up in the last couple of years. Again, in part as a response to the increase. Need that's being expressed by the young people. so those are. That's a couple of observations pretty high level. Still, to say that obviously the need for these kinds of services, the awareness of the trauma and the impact on on kids through Covid was was was pretty clear and our organizations really, we have been able to to step up and meet that demand

[56:05] having the addition of the vape fund the vap tax or the electronic smoking device tax to be added to what we already had from recreational marijuana. tech sources was really helpful. It essentially doubled. the kind of grant funding impact we had and that again was just really great and able to enabling the city to step up and help meet that demand. Thank you. It's a great question. Thank you others. So I have one question, and first of all, thanks, Elizabeth, for all the time you've put in so far, and it sounds like, maybe you're transitioning to a new role. And so we may or may not see you in the future, but it sounds like you've left it in capable hands.

[57:07] And so, Charlie, I'd like to ask you a question on on. Now that we don't have the slides, I was gonna ask about the slide, the second of the last slide. There was something on it that we get that back up, or 8 one, I believe. Here. this slide. I'll tell you when I see it. It has something to do with it. Has the pathways to prevention. Oh, yeah, this one here. Yes, it it talks about. I don't remember if you highlighted this certified prevention specialists. Can you talk a little bit about that, or or both items, really. But yes, and so yes. So their certificate programs that peers or adults that are engaged with the youth can take and actually become certified.

[58:05] substance use prevention specialists. and I mentioned, when I talked about this, I was talking about the fact that people can actually get certified for doing something that they're passionate about and being able to get jobs. And I know that in talking with our partner today at Boulder County community services. You know, they've been talking to some organizations are looking to hire certified prevention specialists and Allah, especially peer specialists and a lot of a lot of clinical data and clinical program is going towards a peer- model, because, you know, folks that folks will youth and others, you know, will usually, you know. have a a, a, a baseline, or a common ground with someone that has been in their position before, and so they are seeking peers to do this certified prevention specialists role here. And in addition.

[59:08] that community providers that can build Medicaid are also looking to bring on certified prevention specialists that can actually be employed at organizations and work on a professional in a professional capacity as prevention. Specialists, whether they be peer or actual family? prevention specialists. And then, when it says 7 enrolled that 7 people currently enroll in programs and yeah, it to to date. that have enrolled and received the training through Boulder County community services through their pathways to prevention program. And do you haven't? Are there any graduates of that yet, or I'm not quite sure. That's a great question. I'm happy to follow up on that.

[60:00] But the first one you're describing it. I was imagining, like one of the high schools, are several of the schools, middle schools and high schools. Would some somebody would be working with or aiming to work with them. But now now I'm hearing, like older community hospital or some I don't know. I'm I'm getting a different vision. What you just described, if it. you know, has something to do with insurance, and somebody could. Bill insurance better? Yeah. So so my understanding there is that you know. a lot of. You know, providers in the community are moving towards, or would like to be able to bill Medicaid, and I'm sorry if I cause any confusion in that. But I had a like a conversation with our partner, and she was just talking about some of the potential avenues for professional development and employment

[61:02] for certified prevention specialists, and that would be something such as getting employed with an agency that is larger, like a boulder county boulder, community health or any larger health care, organization or agency that provides preventative prevention services to be able to. If that person is working for their agency and is a certified prevention specialist that that service could be billed to Medicaid as a part of the the services that they provide to the community. Okay. one of the things I would just add, very, very briefly, again, I think this board is probably aware of how. again thinking about board member Keegan's question about Covid impact. there's just been such an increase in need overall for mental behavioral health services, including

[62:05] but board member noble as well of this. including around substance use prevention. And as Julia said, this prevention specialist approaches for the certified prevention specialist and the peer and family support specialists is a way to help build that capacity of more people who are either already working somewhere in this area, including staff members of our nonprofit agencies that have some substance use prevention programming to really take that next step in their own professional development and their capacity to better serve our community members. So over time, we hope that by, you know, removing the cost barrier that some organizations or community members would have saying, my gosh! I'd really love to get that certification. but it costs money to do that, and I don't necessarily have that supportive structure in place. people to supervise me in a workplace environment. to enable me to do the, you know, to participate in the classes and the study time. so we aim through the C fund to

[63:10] add a little bit more of our funding to remove that cost barrier and really provide this opportunity to people who are already working in this realm somehow and over time, you know, by adding 7, 8, 9, 1015 community members, you know, in any given year. to that pool of folks who are getting certified. We're generally hoping to boost boost that level of capacity in our community. Thank you. Thank you for rounding out those edges. There, Elizabeth! Julia sounds like you've hit the ground running, understanding the different agencies and acronyms. Good job. I'm trying. Thank you. Any other question. One more quick questions, I wondered, is that the craft classes that are put on through Boulder County is that something that comes under CFC funding, or is that separate? Or do you know

[64:12] I'm not sure I am. I'm not sure I understand. When you say craft classes. I know that some of the agencies that we provide funding to will put on craft classes for their no, I'm sorry. It's a specific curriculum for parents to their kids start to dabble in substances. It seems like it's been very effective for a lot of families, and I just was wondering if that was under the C. Funding. Sorry, jolly. I wasn't clear. Allison. You want to go ahead. I believe the funding for that is through the Behavioral Health Administration or through the office of behavioral health at the State. so my understanding is that it's not connected right now to the C fund and not run by community services

[65:10] we can confirm. It's it's not funded through the C fund. Although Julie is absolutely correct. I'm thinking about some of the activities that a healthy youth alliance and some of the other agencies did during Covid. And since then we're actually using online, you know, kind of little C craft classes to an engage the youth and in sober, sober activities. So everyone knows I I suspected it was an acronym community reinforcement and family training. any any other questions?

[66:05] Well. thank you so much for having us. really appreciate it. likely correct that next time you ask for a presentation. it will be Julia going so low. But always here to support her and any available to help answer any questions you might have about about how the C fund is creating this impact in our community. Thanks to the both of you. Thank you for your time. Okay, continuing on into our agenda today is the policy suggestion forms received for the June meeting in the packet. You did we receive one policy suggestion, form? so I will turn that over to you. Chair comes from all right. Everybody has seen the policies to suggest some form I'm assuming.

[67:07] I don't have. I I I miss the meeting that we plan this meeting. So, Brian, do you remember? Was there any discussion about how to how to discuss this. So I was busy doing a clinic survey This didn't come up in our I a meeting with Staff. But I guess this is a policy suggestion form from Aaron speeds with native roots. regarding some changes in statutory language. regarding our medical dispenser, you need to set aside space. so I don't know if other board members wanted to pick this up some kind of way or or if the city attorneys had any input. or if we would need to ask to the attorneys the staff to sort of.

[68:00] So this is kind of what it's like as a first read, if the city attorney said, any feedback on this. so I'm happy to jump in in terms of the procedure for this it seems like First and foremost, we would want to get some direction from this board. If there's any interest in pursuing or having us do any work to look into this. That would be the first step, and then we could always come back with that information for a bigger, broader discussion from the full board, and then at that point the Board can make it a decision on a recommendation on whether or not they want to make any possible change to the code or not. we did do just an initial look and research into the issue. And he did that for me. And it. It doesn't appear as though there would be any conflict per se in their request.

[69:06] However, as you all will know, local governments have the ability to add additional requirements, and that that are unique to their community. and that's what may have happened here. We're still trying to research the history to understand. Why, that additional requirement may have been included. And In addition to that, I think that it's important to note that while they may be asking for a removal of this. what is it called? The room? The consultation room that I think it actually has broader implications in the code because of the way that our code is drafted in terms of the fact that you know. it requires for medical marijuana facilities.

[70:05] it requires some additional services be providing better, similar, consistent with the wellness center. So I think it's a a broader discussion. and so, as I mentioned. perhaps the Board can have a discussion today on whether there's any interest in having us look into this further, and we can always come back, but I think it would be important to have some consensus coming forward to do that, because that would require some additional work and check, please, but I just want to recognize that the author of this policy is also in the room as well, if but yeah, Robin. you know. I guess I would just say that absent some good information about what the original intent was of adding this on to the statute

[71:03] makes the conversation a little bit hard to have. I mean. what was the idea? Was it a privacy issue? Was it ensuring integrity and an actual medical process? What what were those things. Because if we don't really understand that intent, then, you know, we're discussing changing something. with some key. Missing information would be my. Input so I'm I'm happy to wait on this and get more information from the staff. Andy, did you have any further insight based on your research into this? not not too much more. But I I will know they've requested that 3 provisions be stricken. and there's some overlap. and just in terms of like that subsection H. 3. Subsection h. 2. They don't just pertain to the separate room requirement. There's also language in there that

[72:05] basically speaks to medical marijuana facilities operating other medical adjacent type services. And so I think we'd want to be careful and sort of evaluating. You know what both what the request is, but also making sure we understand the original intent. So I think that's all I have for you right now, Mr. Chairman. you can call me Tom. so I'm just trying to like rather than make assumptions. I'm trying to understand the history of The events in Colorado medical marijuana was approved before recreational. Is that correct? And and so medical marijuana. or our cannabis, whatever? We haven't got to that part in the agenda yet. Marijuana right now. So I'm wondering if they created that ruling back when that was established

[73:13] akin to our analogous to a pharmacist needing to have a a private consultation space. That's what I'm imagining. I don't know if there's any truth to my imagination. I think the they have a valid point in that. Buttenders don't exactly have our wealth of I mean they. They have a lot of knowledge. but I don't know if they have a wealth of knowledge with respect to specifics of medical marijuana Stacey. So forgive me if I'm not answering this to what you're thinking, Tom, but I my understanding of recollection, was the doctors weren't supposed to be practicing on site for conflict of interest reasons. I believe that's why it was done away with, I think, when medical first came to Colorado. there was basically facilities where the medicine was grown

[74:15] distributed. Patients were seen. It's like one stop shop, and I think there was a concerns, for you know, ethical issues potentially coming up complex of interest. And so I I believe that was at least at that point what led to that changing. But I don't know if I'm on topic here enough to answer your question. They and I apologize to everyone for being a little scattered here today. That's okay. You've got important things to do. Yeah. The Little League championship is a big dealing. Now. It only comes around probably once in a lifetime. I got 4 kids. This is the first one, and this is my youngest. So there you go. So anyways, that's my understanding of that. So anyone in the room, including Stacey. Who would it have been designed for to use this consultation room

[75:12] when they had when when it was created? I I I'm having trouble envisioning that I mean I agree with you time and again, not having any familiarity with the legislative intent for this language. but I think that your hypothesis, I think, was probably likely to be born out, that this they may be trying to emulate some sort of like pharmacy like oh, they are intent here. I again, if we had enough questions, and if the board and chair are willing to also invite us to hear from Aaron, if she was able to speak, and then maybe provide some that color for this if she's able to. But I think that continue to. But speaking of my capacity, I agree that. Yeah. this legislative language creates the appearance of this. Be engaging in some sort of like medical consultation, I think. Is it appropriate for the kinds of

[76:07] to training and qualifications that but tenders would have. And so I think that I guess we want to understand that. But I would want to also remove the appearance that this is a medical consultation that I think is not an appropriate yeah. Yeah. And Stacy, your hand is still up. You intend to have your hands still up. Oh, thank you. Oh, wait! It's back up. so confusing! Well, so was Aaron present for the period of time during public comment, because we can't see who's in the room anymore. So do you know whether. because we we have allowed special circumstances where we allow someone to speak outside of the public comment period. but then we also open it up to others. If I remember who were not present during the public common period. I can see some benefit, and allowing Aaron to speak, but I also don't want to be

[77:07] unfair or presumptuous. Certainly. Chairperson Aaron did message through the chat. She was here. She wants to thank for the including the policy suggesting from the agenda today she is here on the call, and would welcome a chance to answer any questions from the Cloud members if that might help the conversation. Is there anyone? I I'm all for getting more information even before, if we put this off to making any decisions that until some future meeting. But Is there anyone opposed to hearing from Aaron. Robin. You have your microphone off. That's fine. I mean, again, I just really feel like we need the staff to give us the background or on that, but I'm but I'm open to hearing what she has to say.

[78:01] I think we can do both. not not all today, but hearing no one opposed. how about we give Aaron 3 min or less? I mean, do it just like we do public comment. Certainly I can open up a Google Timer. and I will promote to allow her to talk. Our hand is up all right. Hello, Erin. I I I I I can. So Are you able to see your screen? I can see. Oh, now I see a black box with my name and it okay. So I am going to share my screen with a 3 min timer, and I will let you know when that timer begins.

[79:00] Can you see the time, or Aaron? There can certainly your time begins now. Great thanks. Hi! To your current once, man and cloud members. Thanks for letting me. I'm on, and thanks for devoting part of the agenda to this policy suggestion from I think it's a you you guys covered the the average of the game as far as I'm concerned really. Well, you know, be it really clear? I'm representing native roots. We have 2 stores in Boulder, and one of them is that's adult use on Pearl Street, and then we also have a medical only location called the Dandelion, which is on Walnut Street. and this requirement, for there's 2 requirements that pertain to our medical store. That's 6, 14, 7, each 2 and 6, 14, 7 h. 30. And those requirements hold on a second Kristen. This is where I was. Gonna make a joke with Andy that Andy over overseeing it. Everything should work perfectly for him. but

[80:06] there we go. Let's try one more time. One on the timer. Okay. yes, I apologize. Oh, now we have an advertisement. One moment. Sorry you were on a roll. Okay? Well, no, still. I could hold my watch up to one moment. I don't know why it won't come off of there one moment. I can jump in for you, Kristen, if you need. Thank you. It's like I've got it up. But it won't. How about now? There you go. Thank you.

[81:02] Okay, go ahead, Aaron there. So yeah, thanks again. and I think it's like this is Robin. mentioned an interest in knowing the legislative intent behind this rule, especially the rule about requiring medical marijuana stores in boulder do other things besides dispense marijuana, so we can't only dispense marijuana. We must also provide some other holistic medicine or alternative medicine service. I'm also very curious about the legislative intent. I don't have any insights on what sparked that rule. I think that was likely before. I began in the industry. But Also very curious. What I suspect, though, is that whatever we find the intent to have been that it's likely this rule has likely outlasted its utility, or at least common practice in boulder. And one thing I just wanted to say I. I think if Andy mentioned that

[82:01] the scope here is kind of broad, because I've included that provision as something that I think will be worth striking, which is 6, 14, 7 h. 2 I think what Andy mentioned is, you know, that's a bigger scope change than just eliminating the the requirement for this one private puppy, a room, a room. and the only thing I wanted to note there, I think that's totally correct. But I would just note that eliminating or striking that provision wouldn't inherently prohibit any medical dispensaries from continuing to offer acupuncture or aroma therapy, or the other example services that were on there, but I think it would eliminate the requirement that they do such. So Also, it looks like I'm not running out of. Oh, you you. You were given 3 h instead of 3 apologies. You have one more minute, that's all I'm done. I think that's that's all. You yeah, let me know. If you have questions better, I'll I'll I'll I'll cap it there.

[83:03] Okay, questions, for I kind of wish Evan was here because he might be able to tell us a little bit of history. but it's not so. So the reason we might want to get more information and come back to this for questions, since we have Aaron on. or 3 h timer. I guess, just to not a question for Aaron. But I would just want to do. I don't know if the Board can do it. Not a 5 kind of equivalent like the Council does, but I guess I would like to sort of direct staff, the attorney's office to term the legislative intent of this part of the code. and then consider If there are any other kinds of implications associated with striking the the relevant language for having consultation rooms. Well.

[84:09] I can make that a formal motion, I guess, or not a 5 is sufficient. Just 1 one last check before we discuss that any other questions for Aaron, or will officially put her back in the waiting room. He none. Let's discuss. Brian's suggestion did not sound like a motion. Somehow you're mute, but you can hear me. Yeah. Now we can. Yeah. I agree with Brian's suggestion, appreciate. this person bringing this forward? Thank you, Aaron, and I think we just need a little more history, and then we can probably, you know, move forward more productively. But thank you.

[85:09] Staff, is there another caller we can provide, or questions we can give you better direction on page. No, I think you're fine, I think as long as it is, there is enough interest by the majority of the Board to to move forward and have us look into it and spend time on it. I think that's what would be important to understand. I haven't heard from Ethan or I'm not sure if there was anyone else that needed to weigh in. But As long as there, there's a majority I don't think you need a motion. I just, you know as well it just needs to be enough interest as well. I think the things to clarify our history or the timeline. and how it got to where it is, and what the ramifications for the continuing of it, as well as the ramifications for changing. Ethan.

[86:08] Yeah. So I certainly think it's worth the time. exploring this in a little bit more detail. in in my opinion, I think it's actually in alignment with some of the discourse that was had during the high premises panel, where I think everybody was. in of the same opinion that these medical advice. scenarios most likely shouldn't be occurring. from individuals specifically that buttenders that should be left up to the professionals with the licenses and ability to do that. so willing to continue this discussion in the next to next meeting. Provide that we get some more clarity on the

[87:04] the intent. Great. Thank you. So we'll take that direction, and we'll do our best to come back at the next meeting with some information. Give us little time to look into that legislative history and also any potential implications? so I think we've got our marching orders. And thank you. It's easy for you to say, because you're not going to be here. So, Andy, you okay with all that, too. Yup, of course. Yeah. Okay, cool. And and Kristen Kaitlyn pretty well. Anyone else got that? Okay? So I'm looking at the time. I'm trying to figure out whether this is a good time for a break, or should we wait until after the next agenda.

[88:02] Anybody have a strong opinion. I was discussing a good breaking time. Yes, okay, all right. How about I'm gonna be I luxurious 10 min. So 443 now we're official. Okay? so I don't have the agenda. It's like, item 6, right? Correct agenda. Item number 6. Discussion regarding may meeting policy, suggestion form amending code to replace the term marijuana with cannabis. and maybe in the spirit of equity and fairness. and since I can't see who's in the waiting room is Jeff Guard in the waiting room.

[89:05] Jeff Guard is not in the waiting room. He was, but he is no longer in there. Okay, all right. If he reappears, will you let me know? Yes, I will. Was it? Did he get off recently. honestly, I don't know exactly what time he got off. but it was a while ago. Okay, so Brian, you can clue me in, but I was hoping maybe to get further insight from Andy. I mean, he has this nice, how many pages this 3 changes? but maybe we just hit the highlights and translate it from legally into something the rest of us can understand. Sure. So yeah, sorry about the length.

[90:01] the I think the essence of it is is the Board reviewed the policy suggestion concerning basically changing all of the references to marijuana to cannabis. And as I noted in the memo, I couldn't opine on sort of the history of the usage of marijuana or its implications. it's racial implications, or any other biases or prejudices that it may you know, sort of represent. But I kind of looked at it just from a practical issue of of what would this mean, and and what are, what sort of the language that the State uses? Some of the other municipalities use? And we had a discussion, or I had a discussion with Staff as well to go over this. and the essence of it is one. I'll say there's probably a lot of people on this call that have more expertise than I do about any of this distinctions and different type different types of cannabis. And what's encompassed within cannabis and everything else but

[91:14] Just as a practical matter. the the the word marijuana is used. I guess. Basically, throughout the boulder Revised Code. there are references to cannabis, and there are many more references to marijuana. And just in, I think it's chapters 14 and 15 which relate to medical marijuana and the re to in the recreational marijuana. I think there was 1,000, and like 94 references to to the words marijuana, and so I did want to kind of te this up with that memo to sort of explain some of that perspective, and how there are scientific distinctions at issue as well.

[92:07] but that doesn't mean this isn't something that the Board couldn't either investigate further or take up But we just we did want to make sure you were aware that there might be technical distinctions between marijuana and cannabis, that we really need to look at all of those references in the code to make sure we're drawing the correct distinction as we need to. If we were going to make any changes or or make a make a recommendation to make any changes, so I hope that t it up for you all a little bit 1,000 50,000 foot views so. and I'll just jump in here. And I'll add that. So I spent So my email to staff attached there. So I spent some time just poking around the city provides code, just to look where it's from. This language appears in which chapters and contacts that appears

[93:02] so. if you're looking at the reading packet on a page. He's 28 and 29, I think, 7, 28, 7 to 28 It includes that email where I sort of did my sort of version of due diligence around, just like where this kind of language appears. for me, the the, the, the, the, the here is really hemp So the existence of hem as a distinct kind of regulatory category. to find that both the Federal level and then inheriting all the way down. But I I guess hemp as a definition of any cannabis that contains less than 0 point 3. I try and wait. it's I think, that it is just me a tiny here that this kind of like carve out for hem is really just a political policy abstraction that has no real basis, any kind of sort of meaningful scientific.

[94:05] I got a difference between these plants. They're genetically. almost identical. And so it's really the fact that some clients make more PC. And some clients make less And so I think, until my my senses I just want to share it in my since my opinion would be that Given the pervasiveness of this language the fact that we have to grapple with this sort of carve out that exists for him. that all these concerns about sort of redefining, or sort of removing the term marijuana from code, you know, seems premature until we have an opportunity to sort of define cannabis as an all encompassing sort of definition and then not have to sort of grapple with sort of marijuana is everything that's not. And because we decided to sort of create this car out for him. but again, it's just kind of fascinating all the different ways in which it is to find always it shows other parts of the city code. So I appreciate

[95:07] all the effort that Andy made for this information together. probably in this kind of background. I just want to convey my thanks as well. Others, Ethan Robin like with Echo Brian's thanks to Andy that was a really terrific memo, good background, etc. And, Brian, I appreciated your thoughts on it, too. I'll just tell you that for me. Using a word like cannabis, I think, is less precise for somebody who advocates for transparency and more studies and understanding of the implications of the psychoactive part of this plant. Thc. and so I I really hate that this is potentially hurtful to a community. I think that's very problematic. But I also think we have to be precise, because

[96:03] and if this is where we are right now, where we understand marijuana to be psychoactive. And you know this valuable part of the plant. Cbd to be non psychoactive. I think that distinction is really important. And if you say cannabis, you're talking about both things. So I think that's problematic. And so I wouldn't support making the change at this time. for all of those reasons and the things that Andy described about just linguistically having some of those challenges. Ethan. Any thoughts on. Yes, if I remember correctly, In the last meeting, Jeff Guard did mention that he's aware that the Governor's offices, in currently in process of working to phase out marijuana already.

[97:01] I would hate to task the city staff with work that would more or less be. We're done, and if we go through all the the painstaking efforts to strike out marijuana. I replace it with cannabis, and then the state. you know, makes their own changes that would require us to double back and and redo the same work twice So I think it's it's in our best interest to maybe reach out to the to the State and see what their intentions are, and in a in a perfect world scenario we could roll out. you know, the city of Boulder's amendments somewhat in line with. we're on the same timeline with the the States intentions as well. So I think

[98:01] we we wouldn't want to make you know any A/C. Decisions now. perhaps need to open up that discourse with with the State, first. to better understand their intentions and plans that was coming up for me, if and knowing that there might be some other things moving. that I think conceptually it makes sense to explore. But I feel like the exploration at this point of looking at the great, the great memo, and looking at how many things would need to change, and knowing that there's some movement in other places feels like it's not the right time to go further, but something to keep in mind. Then I just wanted to add one thing, and this is mostly for Andy the constant of because it predates this time on the but officer Gigg, I did so just pursue it to a section B like on the reading packet, age 25.

[99:00] So again, it's kind of talking about you know the distinction between cannabis and marijuana. But But in boulder because of this wild floo poll that exists in the hemp bill that was passed by Congress. it. It is permissible for unlicensed businesses. That's how to sell a Thc containing substances as long as they fall below this point 3% by dryweight sort of threshold. So I just wanted to sort of raise for Andy, because he wasn't aware that I did investigate this and the share a one page letter sort of sharing this. I don't know if you want to share more about this. If you've got updates on that since Pam has your hand up, go ahead. Pam. yeah. I've raised my hand because I can reach out to the State met tomorrow to see if they've heard anything about the governor's interest in striking the word marijuana.

[100:01] and I can get that back to the licensing staff. in regards to the levels of Thc that are allowed. Legally, I did research that with the state because there was some issues about a A that was going around that had a certain level of T thc. and unfortunately it's legal, because it is under the level that the the science defines marijuana the level of thc, that it needs So they still acknowledge that anything below the certain level is is considered him, and anything above is considered marijuana, and falls under the the regulatory rules. and just to clarify is is that a State rule? Is that a Federal rule? And is that FDA? Or which? It's it's both.

[101:00] No, no. Are they in agreement at least. Okay, that's good. Colorado. General Assembly in the in the last session that just closed passed a bill that put some greater regulation on products that contain thc, that are derived from hem. and that's send a bill 23 to 71. If anyone wants to look at it a little further. But it's a little more robust regulation on hemp products derived from T. H. C. Products drive from him. But I agree with the rest of the board that. I'm grateful for Jeff and other members of community for reasons, is an issue. It is a live issue. I also shared a sense of the board that.

[102:01] this is a very complicated, regulatory sort of issued us to change the code, if it you know this term appears thousands of times in the code. And like these definitions are shifting and response to state and federal things that we should sort of wait our turn in line for those changes to come down to us, and then I think we should be in coordinating ways that allow us to make those changes and combination with that nice. I would also echo everyone's gratefulness for Amy putting this together, and I would also echo that I think we're all in sympathy with Jeff's intention. But it's not a matter of just like back in the good old days you could take Microsoft words, and how you know, have it find marijuana and change them all to cannabis. it'd be a lot of changes, first of all, and I find it curious that

[103:05] when I tried to Google Federal rules regarding cannabis. It just steered me to marijuana every time. But in the State. This is a question for Andy that I don't know if you got a chance to look at. I I know I hear what's happening in Colorado. I wonder if other States have moved in that direction of changing terminology or clarifying terminology. because California, interestingly, when I googled you know what I just said, cannabis or Federal rules regarding cannabis. The fifth thing that came up with California rule, and it was all. It was all cannabis terminology. Now we had mentioned marijuana, but cannabis was the number one term it appeared. so I'm just curious as to whether other States have jumped ahead of us on clarifying this.

[104:01] Yeah. And I I I don't know that answer I pretty much just looked through throughout Colorado. And, oddly enough, the Marijuana Enforcement Division has I believe it was our web web page. That's cannabis, Colorado So there is some sort of like interchangeability in terms of some of that usage. But I I mean it. It seems like Colorado definitely hasn't shifted away at this point from using the term marijuana So that's kind of kind of where I landed. and that's that's helpful to know, too, that there might be some action taken at the State level to make that change. so we can definitely look into that for the board and staff, and I will look into that. But at this at this point. Yeah, I'm not sure I have much more info for you.

[105:01] so I know you were working down at the State level, but I think you live in Boulder, but I'm not sure about that. I think I remember hearing that. no, I I don't let them bolt. All right. Well, that's okay. Good for you, But we here in Boulder like to think that we like to lead the world and we sometimes get that wrong. But but we still like to think that One thing I I mean, it's a. This has been a. This whole landscape changes on a daily, weekly, monthly, yearly basis. I mean, you know, this is all it's been evolving over more than a decade, and it's going to continue to evolve. I mean, just today I got an inkling that What's your name to see you change lab. Who is it? Brian? cinnamon did? Well, the other one head of that Angela, is is gonna at this putting together a research proposal to study different concentrations of Thc, and it's trying to get a in the investigation all

[106:14] new drug whatever you call it, exception. And so I don't know how that's gonna fly, you know, with State rules, Federal rules, university roles. we'll see. Just add enough water. And it's not marijuana anymore. Step. I guess. It is like, you know, I guess what I was trying to say is that we'll just have to adapt to whatever comes next. But I do. I do find it interesting that the City Council, at the time when they created this board. had the wherewithal or the insight to not call it the Marijuana board. They called it the Cannabis Board. So that's just kind of interesting.

[107:04] But anyways. so to come up with a conclusion. we're gonna put this on the back burner. we'll be sympathetic. But yeah, I say, we should revisit this if there's movement at the state level. And do you think that each one of us will probably keep track of that independently. Or do we need an assignment along that line? Or it's gonna happen. I mean, whatever happens happens right. or maybe just say that Kristen Watkins is in the Governor's office. He's on a short list of speakers for a future cloud meeting, so that might be a question we can pose to after walk into the future meeting if we okay.

[108:00] all right. what's next? I have to scroll back up to see the agenda. That would be agenda. Item number 7 matters from the city attorney. and I really don't have anything Obviously the biggest notice is Andy joining this group and there, you know, there may be some additional work. that We would look into by CEO. But and I'm thinking particularly of the rules of procedure. But that looks like something that's gonna be listed. Oh. as one of the items under the licensing office. So I'll wait and see what direction we get from you all about that. but I think

[109:01] we have at least one assignment from this meeting. And so that's all that I have. I don't know, Andy, if you had anything else that you wanted to add. Nope, that's it. And, Andy, you'll contact us each individually to see if we can arrange some time to. Yeah, yeah, I'll I'll be reaching out probably in the next couple of weeks, so probably just stagger some meetings and just reach out and touch base and not no pressure. But it would be good to meet with you all. So okay. and you have our phone numbers. I'm presuming, or you have access to our phone numbers. Yes. okay. okay. Matters from the regulatory licensing office.

[110:02] Thank you, Kristen. So In your packet we have some draft with the procedure, and these date back to 2020. When the board was originally formed, and from what I could gather, back in 2,020 it sounds like the board discussed these rules of procedure but never actually formally adopted them. So we just wanted to revisit that to see if that's something that the Board would be interested in in formally adopting or making any changes to the draft that was written back in 2,020. What pages that I'm scrolling through? It's 39 38. Alright scroll too fast. Oops.

[111:02] Yeah, there's lots of a not in May 2,020 there was a lot. So have we ever discussed this? Sorry have we ever discussed this? It would they were presented to the to the board. Excuse me, back in May of 2020, so it's it's been a while since these were discussed. and then using the beverage, licensing board as a model. If they had any changes or practices or the rules of procedure that changed a meaningful way since May 2020. Sure. So that's a that's a good point. these rules for procedure. We're copied from the bla. We also procedure for our liquor board. although I will say they are much shorter than the bla rules for procedure, because Bla acts as a quasi judicial board, and that's not something that cloud has taken up yet.

[112:15] so the the bla has made some changes to their rules over the years. But it's mostly related to rules, procedure for public hearings and and things of that nature. I can't. I'd have to do a comparison, but I can't recall any changes to the topics that are outlined in these draft rules of procedure that we provided to you. The only difference that I noticed, and I'm not sure if it was right or not. But Besides those additions of how you hold a public hearing and define a neighborhood and stuff like that. is there? Quorum is different than ours. I think, is, their quorum is 3, right? Yeah, there are this 4.

[113:06] Sorry they're they're a smaller board. It's a 5 person word. That's why they're for it. We just, generally speaking, looking at these, they seem accurate to the way we've operated for the last, you know, several years, and I didn't see anything that needed that needed to be changed, that I could see. My question to staff is that? Are we operating in a breach by not having formally approved these rules procedure? And should we just approve them so that we cover our buts, and that we can. We advise them in the future as we see fit? okay. Are we operating in a reach right now? I guess it would be my question that in

[114:02] you know. What's interesting, you know, is that there isn't necessarily any requirement. There' be rules of procedure for this board. so I think it would be important to make sure that There was at some point a motion by the or approving the rules. that are in place just to kind of legitimize it. But I don't think that there's anything that you've been doing wrong. You know. It sounds like you've been practicing what's in there already. So yeah. so in tangential to Brian's question, is it really our boards? per view to approve this? Or is it more? The city console? It's it's you. It's this board, because there's no requirement. That city council approve it, whereas the

[115:08] average licensing authorities both procedures do require council approval. This board does not. and there's many other boards that don't require a council. I read with curiosity the second for the last paragraph on page 42, I've always thought that we've tried to resemble Roberts rules of order. maybe not to the T But I do. You know just a warning, Andy, that I sometimes seek advice, or trying to do things by Robert's rules of order. But it says right there Roberts rules, or newly revised. 1,981 shall not be applicable the proceedings of the club I don't know where that came from. I don't remember. We're reading that And and, by the way, Robert's Rules of Order is on twelfth edition

[116:06] and 2,020 is the most recent version, not 1,981. No, I don't know if it's changed much. I I did not order the book. I think this is just a get out of jail free cart that we run things a little bit booster than Roberts rules. So I think that's we. We approximate it. A procedure. That's exactly right. I think that's the theory behind it. Does the alcohol board use, Robert? Does any? Does the city console? Does anyone use the number tools of order? So the city council has its own council rules of procedure that it follows. and if it's not addressed in the Council rules procedure, then they will default to the Roberts rules, but. generally speaking, they that's not the first approach, and I think, for the reason that Brian just mentioned it

[117:02] makes it cumbersome sometimes, and and and difficult to actually run a meeting. so It's not unusual that the robot tools would work. It would not be the first. It wasn't addressed to the rules. Hmm! Or just the fyi and the if you go back historically and you look at who has made motions and seconded in them. I I don't think you'll see my name, because I have been living by Robert tools of order which the chairperson is not supposed to make motions or second, they were just supposed to guide others. and doesn't matter to me much. I just I think that's still a good approach to take So because it invites discussion from other board members. Right? so I think it's probably still a good approach to take

[118:04] Robin. The only other issue that I've flagged was on page 41, and it's like the third paragraph down about when Boulder City Council can hear our recommendations. It it puts, it says, once a year as necessary. And I wonder, should that say once a year, or as necessary? Or should there be a little more clear definition there? Because that's a question we come back to round and round and round every time we talk about something. Well, how do we give this to the Council? And so maybe you guys could think about that. There's a better way to clarify that. Ryan. I I I got a comment on that, too. But go ahead, Brian. Okay. So in in, in medicine, the professors that teach the different body parts always think that their body part is the most important body part, and they drill that into medical students. And so in that vein.

[119:08] The cannabis board is the most important board on the city, you know, for the city of boulder. And so we think that you know the the city Council is just waiting, you know. Maybe midnight tonight they're going to read through our minutes or tomorrow morning, or something like that. Probably not true. but we still like to think that. So, Brian. Sorry just to bit of levity next time. in regards to taking up our quasi-judicial powers like a superhero. would there be any meaningful changes required to these rules of procedure as they are currently presented. Kristen, I know you'd mentioned that these kind of predated that capacity. But now we're in the midst of picking up that mantle with these need to be altered or revised as somebody to like that.

[120:06] I I'll I'll chime in. I don't. I don't know that these would need to be revised, but we would definitely want to add rules on the end similar to what the pla has done. So alright, thank you. And I had pulled up. I can't find it now, because I have too many windows open. But There was a link to the bla rules of procedure. Is it easy to find. I'm looking at a list of 12 to 13 things here. That's page number 13. I'm sorry. Page 37 in your packet. Oh, okay, so I don't need to go looking. I I I was looking at the documents. I was not. What was the number one.

[121:00] page 37. Okay? Oh, yeah, that's that's the link. Okay? So I did. okay. and is it the which document is it? Of these 12 or 13 choices? Here will be the amendment. That's 28. So currently, there's 29 pages which includes the cover sheet to the boulder beverage licensing authority rules of procedure. Okay? So maybe the the top one might be the options on that web page. the link should open directly to the rules of procedure.

[122:09] but I think it's the top one on the list. so it would be the version that was adopted. April thirtieth. I'm sorry. April twentieth, 2,023. Okay. all right. Other. the staff need any particular direction, or we need to just do our homework, and I'm replaced from the We'd like to hear from the board if you'd like to adopt these rules or procedure as is, or if there's any changes you'd like to make please let us know so they can make those changes and present them to you in an updated form.

[123:01] Would you like to hear those now? Or should we just email you with comments? Either is fine. Does anybody have any comments off the top or upfront. The only the only thing, I I think, did you guys register the the question I had about I, page 41. It was that that would be something I'd like clarity on. Otherwise I didn't see anything that was problematic in these. These seem consistent with how we've operated before intending on adopting our quasi-judicial responsibilities here.

[124:02] relatively soon. I think it's certainly appropriate to to add on those additional chapters as needed. You can just fill the on this question here, that if we wanted to emulate the average licensing authorities procedures here, is it best to kind of do this in a piecemeal fashion, where we like add a chapter and a previous chapter at a time, or approve them all sales, and they all projects. The staff have a sense of that. The best way to kind of go about incorporating you just additional procedures here. But what's already captured, such as emulating the Blas. I'll just jump in, and I also, I'm not going to be doing the work, and it seems better to just do it all at once rather than piece mail. But I would to

[125:01] other staff members, and if they have other thoughts, but it seems like it would be a cleaner way to go. And I I was just gonna add, I'm I'm happy to take a first shot at incorporating these additional chapters and converting them to cloud. I guess appropriate language, and then it will make it lengthier, so that might be a little bit more of involved discussion at the time of adoption. But that shouldn't be. I mean the the bla has a really good format and system right now. So we could probably get that to you for the next meeting, if you like it'll be a challenge, because it's going from 2 and a half pages to potentially 25 pages. But clearly some of the things in the bla even in the table of contents. They are not going to be applicable to us.

[126:01] Bed and breakfast permits. So right. But I think that's a good idea to first shot past us. Yeah, I would welcome if Andy, in the Green's office wanted to take a shot at translating the Blaz or the Canvas Board Review at a future meeting. Ethan. What do you think? I will hardly agree. Robin. that makes 4 of us 4 out of 4. That's our quorum, according to our or by lost. That's great. Yeah, we'll we'll get on that, and we'll work internally and try to get you something for next meeting. So

[127:03] okay. back to any other matters from the we have agenda topics for future cloud meetings. So one was mentioned earlier. this is on page. It's the last page, isn't it So? And and there's been some Texting or emailing about whether Nathan doing is available, or if we wanted to have him. And then also an email back from. I want to pronounce his last name, John Simat. Yeah, Robin, you had talked a bit about this. So maybe you want to share a little bit more about

[128:02] Nathan and inviting it. Yeah, Nathan, when I got contacted him to talk to us about cannabis, hyper Emmesis. He said. You know I have this group. I'm very interested in getting more licenses involved, and I'd love to come and talk to the Cloud about what I do, and how my organization can make the environment, and bolder, safer and better for consumers. And so he wanted to come and make a presentation to clap sounded very sincere, and I know this group. The responsible area retailers has been referenced lots of times by different cloud members during other discussions, so I'd certainly be opening to open to hearing his presentation. If the rest of the board is. I would welcome that.

[129:04] I agree. I'm mute. oops. Sorry I got you with them. Brian. You had mentioned Tristan Watkins. He's not on the schedule. We we have nobody scheduled to speak in your future. Right? I the first step. But I don't believe so. Okay. did I see a communication, maybe in the packet between the Cu school of Public health that Dr. Simat. who agreed he would be happy to come and make a presentation on the findings. They they released their report since our last meeting. I think he gave a name of someone who would be appointed to figure out

[130:04] who would speak. Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry. What P. Is that on again. let's see 47, I believe. Oh, yeah, I just didn't go back far enough. He was just referring to the assistant. Who can help make the arrangements. Okay? And she was. CC, okay, so I guess we just need to come to conclusion at what? Where we are at for for priorities. I would definitely welcome presentations for both Dr. Sam and Matt, and

[131:00] they can do it. I agree, I echo, that those seem to be 2 high priority people that we should hear from so lower down. You would put anything from the change lab. and our Jonathan Singer and our Kristen Watkins and I have one more suggestion to add to the list also. okay. not going to add it. since it, since it seemed to get attention in the newspaper article. I've been looking into finding one or more speakers to address this age difference between 21 and 25, and why we chose to go with 25 and And I think there's

[132:01] we're getting some insight from other folks. as to who might be able to address those issues. You know the brain development and how cannabis might affect people in different stages of brain development. so I don't have a name yet, but I would reserve a place on the list somewhere, but no, not in the near future. Brian. Have you had any conversation with Cinnamon or anybody from that lab? No, not recently. I just know, through my kind of research article alerts that Her lab had a number of papers just come out recently. If I haven't had a chance to dive into him yet. Okay? And as I mentioned earlier, they're, you know, intending to do more stuff

[133:05] I wanted to mention. since we're talking about. Sorry, Tom, go ahead. Okay. Well, you know, since the Cu study, that school of public health study came out In the ensuing month another study came out of Denmark. That is pretty groundbreaking study, because it followed 6 million people, and I tried to include it in the packet, but it was. It came out a little too late. I'll put it in the next packet. But the researchers in this study concluded that As many as 30% of cases of schizophrenia among men, ages 21 to 30 might have been averted by averting cannabis use disorder. and I think this is something that would be great for us to understand. As a group the implication of this particular study, because it's so large, and it's in all the medical journals right now. Jam has got it. Psychological medicine has it. Somebody's laughing, but it! It's a big study, and it's really concerning. And

[134:19] I I don't know if we could have a speaker to come in and speak about that particular study, but that seems like kind of an urgent thing for the industry to understand and for consumers to understand. If that is an existential risk. So I would submit that. And again, I'll put that in the next packet. try to send it to a couple of folks ahead of ahead of time. But I'd appreciate the Board's consideration of that new study. I my, I don't. I'm not sure I got the audio when you said, is that for schizophrenia, or what is what is that for? The the study concluded that as many as 30% of cases of schizophrenia among men ages 21 to 30, could have been prevented

[135:10] by first prevent preventing cannabis use disorder. It made a very strong association between cannabis, use disorder and schizophrenia. Okay? Well, that might go along with the speaker that I'm trying to find. Exactly, Tom. That's why I brought it up. Just what you were talking about there. Okay, do we have any information that suggests that Jonathan Singer wants to come and speak with us? Or was that just a name that got thrown out. I am. He's an interesting guy, and I like him. But does he want to come? Speak with with us?

[136:01] You might actually understand some of the you know some of the things the history. Alright. I don't know what. I don't know who proposed Jonathan. Anybody. Okay? So do you want to try to do 2 speakers whenever we're we're gonna discuss when the next meeting is also right. you want to try to do 2 speakers. I think. Yeah, we could get Nathan do. And John some. I think there's a strong consensus around getting them to speak. So I I would want to prioritize them. That was. And again, J July. It seems unlikely. We'll talk about that in a minute here. But yes, a future meeting. Do you want to choose one over the other.

[137:03] It's good for both. Okay and and do you want a city staff? Do you want to make the next inquiry, or do you want me to send another message first. We're happy to to reach out directly and help facilitate but if you'd like to do that and get back to us either either way is fine. How about you do it in CC. Me sounds good. So we we acknowledged your reply to Dr. Kenceman, and would like to schedule how soon, or you know. how's that? So sounds good. We'll reach out to him. Make sure your okay. And who wants to do, Nathan. or you already in discussion with him. Is that correct? Yeah, I'm happy to reach out to him. Let's let's decide what date we're meeting next. So we can.

[138:05] But yes, I'm happy to reach out to you. Good segue, when's the next meeting? So One of the things that I can do is, I can definitely clean up We've been just adding to this list, but I can maybe do a strike through for things that we've already discussed. If that would help make it clear or just reorder it. for the suggestions for future meetings, if that would help. Sure. that'd be great. Okay? And then. So we do have a couple of quorum and attendance items coming up next. the first one is quorum and attendance notification. staff would just request that if you're going to be absent, and you're gonna email, the chair or the vice chair, if you would please make sure to include staff on that email as well.

[139:01] that way, we know whether or not we have a potential to maybe not have a quorum, because some people just email us versus just the the chair or the vice chair. So they all kind of need to be centralized, so the staff knows whether or not we are at risk having to cancel the meeting and reschedule because it goes out on the public website. So we just ask if everybody could remember to please do that. And then moving on to the question of the hour. The July third meeting Forum. Right? You need to make sure that everyone who, especially those that not in attendance today get that same message. We can do that. Hey, Sandra? Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to add one quick thing related to because at the end we're still operating under virtual

[140:00] meeting procedures. And I I think I know that it would be important for the folks that are participating in the meeting to have their cameras on, and I know that sometimes we have challenges with scheduling and that sort of thing, but it's important. in order to determine whether somebody is actually participating or not, to to make sure that their cameras are on, and that's a practice that every board does and you know you can discuss it if you have an objection to that approach. But I think that it would be helpful for you. moving forward to be able to confirm whether somebody is actually participating or not. I think that's a good expectation, but there probably needs to be exceptions to a rule. Okay.

[141:00] Stacy's probably on the I don't know where you call the sidelines. What do you call a little leap field? I don't know. I mean. it might be hard for her today. but she's not on right now. So yeah, I share Sandra's concern, and I would just maybe direct. And you to make sure if we can like incorporate some kind of expectational. That's that in the rules procedure. Yeah, we we can definitely do something like that. Okay. thank you. Okay, Kristen, you want to go back to where you go. So for the July third meeting in an attempt to see if about establishing a quorum. July third is a Monday with the legal Fourth of July holiday being that Tuesday the Fourth.

[142:03] We already have one indicator, although it is an ex official member that will not be able to be present at that time. you as a board, have a couple of different options like we've presented you in the past. You can choose to try and keep that. If we can obtain a quorum. you can choose to move it to another day that we can find mutually available in that month, or, like the city council does in the summertime. You can choose to take a a month off, as like a summer break and staff just remind us of the scale up in the planning meeting for our meeting. That staff is not available on July tenth, so that the soon as Monday would be a July seventeenth. Right? That is correct. My! I would make the case for cancelling the July meeting. having our next meeting being August in line of

[143:00] all day and constraints. I I welcome with this feedback. Is there any downside of that? My second that I know it's not an official motion, but I know it was. It was a near motion. discussion. Ethan. I was just gonna say that I'm I'm in favor of of canceling the meeting as well. Well, it might be unanimous again. See what we can do with less board members. I shouldn't say that I didn't say that. All right. Does that work, Kristen Kristen Kristen. So what I'm hearing is that you were wanting to cancel the July meeting date. We will put notice up on the web page.

[144:02] and we will resume back with the August at the usual date as long as it's August seventh, the first of August right. According to our rules, any 2 of us can ask for a meeting at any point in time. So that could be disrupted by 2 outliers. okay and that Moves us to the next one summer quorum, setting, if you have any indication of any planned vacations or other conflicts that you're aware of for the next. Maybe, now that we're moving past July. if we go September. I'm sorry. August, September and October. because of school. if you could email those to us, so we can determine and please email them individually not as a group.

[145:03] if you could email those to staff. So we can determine whether or not we're going to have issues with summer quorum setting. That would be greatly appreciated. Is it on the list to discuss coming back to in person or hybrid. right just jumping in here stuff incorrectly. But I think that between folks like be remote we'd always have to have some kind of remote option for all the board to attend. So we are back in the space of it has to be hybrid. At best, there's no fully person that that's really an option to bring all the board members here that poses some logistical challenges. It sounds like. yeah, the city console do hybrid? Yes, they they do. They. Their business meetings are hybrid. Their study sessions are remote.

[146:05] Hmm. okay. I guess I want to get a sense of what people think about at least trying to meet in person some of us not I. I know it won't be all of us, because Member Thompson probably isn't going to be here in town. and I I'll give personal experience just today. I had first in person meeting in 3 and a half years of institutional Review Board on campus, and it was great. I mean seeing some of these people that I've only seen on little faces in a screen. Meeting them in person is such a world of difference, and it's so positive. No, I know that's not feasible.

[147:04] and it creates challenges. But I think in person I'm always a fan of in person versus Hi Brend. If we can do it. maybe we could target some specific dates that would be easier for members to make an in person meeting happen. Unfortunately, you missed you weren't around or on the board yet for the retreat. I think that was a positive thing. Yeah, we could schedule something. Not for August. I guess no one of the things that staff would need to do is have those dates tentatively identified. and then we would have to schedule a meeting room that could accommodate us at at that date and time.

[148:02] In previous years we had had, you know, the Council chambers, which we had reserved would reserve out for an entire year for the beverage licensing authority on the third Wednesday of every month, and we had that that set out council chambers is currently undergoing renovations. So that is not going to be available to us for several months, so we would need to look at different meeting spaces within this. We do have a couple of options. But we do have to work around all the other current boards and our commissions that are currently working in a hybrid or wanting to work in a hybrid and see where it would fit in with availability to schedule that. And it's almost always going to need to be in a city building for the technology and the recording purposes that we have for the hybrid meeting setups. Yes. okay. And is is September gonna this labor day? Is it? Labor Day? Whatever holiday that is.

[149:04] does that will that disrupt the schedule at all? I don't know what they what the Labor Day is. Monday, the 20 eighth, I believe. Am I right? It's not the first Monday in September. It is Monday, September fourth. So that will change. Yeah, that date would need to be reviewed. So I guess, looking ahead, is there any conflicts with doing it on the eleventh? I don't have anything calendar out that far for staff at this time. that would have to be looked at if you want absolute. If we're going to plan ahead to meet in person, or could we just say September, October, or November

[150:03] licensing manager? We could probably work with a range of days. But we would like to hear probably like a vote or a majority of the Board. that can confirm that you can attend those dates in person. That would be helpful. But we can certainly work with the range. We don't necessarily need just one date to choose from. I would say. Let's start in October, since that, maybe, is at the moment the next normal meeting. But I recognize that staff constraints and schedules may not be visible right now. Ethan Robin. I'm I'm I'm with Brian on that one. Yeah, me, too. October onward works better for me.

[151:03] Unanimous again. Wow! Oh, go ahead! Oh, sorry! I just wanted to clarify. Is the intent to have a fully in-person meeting similar to what we did with the retreat? Or is, that is the intent to have that as a hybrid meeting with people having the option to attend virtually well, I think we we'd probably be encouraged to come in person if you can. and with the option of hybrid for those that cannot. either because they're not in the State. or they just came down with Covid or something, whatever. Got it. Thank you. That's all. Okay, Brian, it was your suggestion. So

[152:02] okay. and if you know you, something comes up and you say, Oh, October is not going to work. Then we'll look at November. Okay. okay, what else? the only other thing that we have under this section from regulatory licensing is just a reminder that you did get an email, and it was included as an exhibit in materials on the web page. that there was a racial equity training reminder for those of you that have not scheduled It's very valuable for the city, and so they would like you if you have not already taken your racial equity training to please follow the instructions in the email see when they're offering next and take advantage of them, if you can

[153:04] because they're gonna keep sending emails. okay. and then on to agenda, an item number 9 matters from the chair and members of the board. I have nothing specific what about the other folks other than I. I already mentioned that they are. If you have not read the article. you should well, I'll get that to Staff to include in the future packet, but that just came out of the weekend And then I just shared these 2 nice review articles. So these are both literature views of other articles. This is an article analyzing the data from other scientific artific levels about the effects of cannabis legalization. and again, just kind of highlighting that There's a wide variation in terms of the qualities, articles, and that that from particles your point in different kinds of directions, so not to say that there are no effects, but that, you know, measuring these things is very hard, and people are finding different kinds of effects. but I just coincidentally found that these 2 kinds of really nice, the hierarchy of kind of scientific evidence like that. Systematic reviews are sort of.

[154:24] You're the top of the kinds of quality things, because you're looking at a a group of articles together. So I just was excited to see that there were now 2 separate review articles looking at the effects of cannabis legalization that and different kinds of outcomes. Thank you. And Robin, you're gonna send at least one article be included in a second. Yeah. okay. okay. Anyone else

[155:02] I'm going to shoot for an unless there's something else that I don't know. I would be glad to let people have an hour ish of their own life since we remember. We're all volunteers. those in the public who are listening. I don't know if there is anybody anymore. But you know we're all volunteers. Well, that's not true. All of us, all of us on the board are volunteers. Okay? Well. I will a motion to adjourn, and I will also thank Sandra for all her efforts and contributions over the recent months. All of the work that you do, and

[156:01] the fact that you volunteer your time to do this is really great. So thank you. I would echo that. And I was going to test Robert's rules of order and do the motion. But. Brian, be me to it, darn it. I'm an Ethan. Second the motion in the sentiments, thank you, Sandra. likewise. and welcome, Andy. are you sure, Andy? I I don't know if I have much of a say in it, so I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure, especially with your boss in the virtual room. Yeah. Okay. What were you welcome? all right. Well, thanks. I heard a a motion. In a second, anyone opposed or upsetting. All right, have a good Monday evening. Thank you, everybody for sure. And, Christopher.

[157:04] Thank you. Thank you, sir. Happy to be here. How it going.