November 29, 2023 — Boulder Arts Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:03] Amid not like right welcome to the November 20, ninth. 20 23. Earth commissioning will come to order. Alright. let's start with the ask land, acknowledge them, and we'll do the approval of the event. The city of Boulder acknowledges the city is on the ancestral homelands, and the unseen territory of indigenous peoples who have traversed, lived in and stored in land and the Boulder Valley since time immemorial. Those indigenous nations include the Apache Arapaho. sorry, Anne. the landscape Joni. to show me through, and the city of Boulder recognizes that I'm now living and working on these ancestral lands. have a responsibility to acknowledge and address the past.

[1:09] We must work to build a more gift. Alright. I'd like to approve the agenda. I have one addition to it. We're gonna add A 7 B, which is, gonna be a discussion with Lauren about Central field trip funding anybody else. Someone will make a motion. I will make a motion. Second. what is your motion? Elaborate on that to approve the agenda? You all in favor? Okay? Something, you know. Wanna click

[2:01] great and approval of November reach doesn't have any edit. I can make some function to it through retreat minutes from November second. I will second all in favor. All right. Do you have anybody for public certification? You don't, and there's nobody. Okay? All right, let's move on to welcoming our new staff member. Yay. does somebody have an introduction.

[3:00] Okay, manager, right? If you don't mind the same. Thank you for having no problem. I'm super happy to be here. I told Matt during the interview process that you could make my brain. And so that's yeah. I'm really excited to be here. I've been around Boulder for a while I to run open studios. and then I work for downtown boulder with the Television's pretty engagement. And now we'll hear about the public service. It's really rare to help with all things art and culture. Oh, yeah.

[4:04] what do you call them? Forums, forums kind of networking monthly events. So start doing that probably in Q, 2, 28 for my goal. Gonna be looking at doing an artist's census and then lots of work with figuring out where our venues are and what they need from my my Google clip. So funded by Arpa. figure out like how to help those 2 groups, artists and memories. public more better. Yes. hired in the contractors week. So I'm going to be doing that. most likely still. And we're figuring out how that works with the employment thing.

[5:04] What about dance is for everybody not sure choose to do that, is that? Oh, yeah, that's so, muted Mary. Yeah, so I don't know I'm I'm actually having lunch with Mary on Friday to get a yeah download figure out to doing and what she was trying to do and what she was able to do. The because he's historical. No, I see. Yeah, we'll see. I'd love to help with that. Okay. she knows who I am. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Well, we're glad to have you. Thank you. Welcome, please.

[6:00] Awesome. Alright. Hope we don't become a nightmare. Yeah. A while ago I served on community on into the third one community year. And that was. it's amazing, like we would be here for hours and hours, and it would be kind of a slob that I would always leave so inspired and without trouble, sleeping after leaving like the 4 h meetings. Just because it's so excited about all the people. I was just in the loop on the dream. Yeah. Oh, there you go.

[7:01] all right. So it's a good joke that you have matters from missioners. So A is a new little section of the meeting that Georgia myself. that one I did. We were gonna try out just to give a little bit more structure to our liaison balls, cause I know for myself, I but I sometimes II forget to reach out, and I'll come and spend 6 months, and I have no idea how things are going for my organization. So the idea is that we've set us by time. We'll do this every meeting and give everybody 2 or 3 min to kind of fill the commission in on how things are going, what issues they're hearing back. That we can deal with or deeper conversations on just feedback on what's the pulse of our our general operating support organization?

[8:07] And so today you may or may not have something to report back. I've reached out to try and talk to Mylee and Brown Group scheduled anything with them, but hopefully we'll have better. more full of reports next time. So I think it's an opportunity today. Either tell us about something that you've seen out in the community, or something you have been hearing from our conversation that you had with one of your. or even just kind of where, what? What you might intend to do around communications with them so that we have something that's been. I'm happy to start great. I guess the I had emailed all of them when we were first assigned. and

[9:00] there were a couple that I never heard back, from. which you know, probably consistent with the last few years. I always do kind of the same thing. As soon as I find out who they are, I email kind of a Boof email. it's fairly consistent. I didn't hear back from a couple a few more email saying, Oh, say, thanks so much for reaching out, and I'll let you know if I have any questions or issues. And then there were a couple that wanted to meet, which was great love, that so that was exciting meeting with 2 different groups. I don't know if it's important to say who they are, cause I would never want people to feel like we're gonna special attention when we vote. I don't know what's we've ever really done this before. I don't know what the implications are. I I'd like to hear you who you met with. I think that's I would like to hear who you met with. Oh, okay, yeah, I think just because other people to

[10:02] respond and reach out so that they when they hear what you're talking about, they might say, Oh, this is how will we support it? So I met with lemon sponge ballet, and I met with Todd from East Window. and it was very exciting with Todd, just cause he's he's just really trying to get this thing going his little gallery. And I wanted to become big. That's why I wanted to work with small small groups. I told you a while ago. and so it's fun, and I'm trying to help him with some kind of behind the scenes stuff not really board governance, but just helping in general. I think what each window could use some help with, if I may be so Bold is marketing. and so if there's any way to get.

[11:02] you know all our grantees time and the newsletters, you know. I don't know how to do that equitably. But maybe you kind of divvy it up. And you just newsletter because you do those amazing newsletters. you know, to throw them some love. If there's if they're having a show, why not included in there? And you know you do that for the most part, anyway. But maybe just your I don't know. Well, that's also the second thing. her Instagram. Yes. yeah. Communication for new vitality. Amazing. And she's got amazing ideas. But one of the assistants to help us with the Newsletter, and so I've been sending her recommendations from some of our colleagues in other, like the foundations, those little bios of their grantees really nice with it. Personal

[12:00] little interviews and pictures, some kind of like highlight grantee highlights. It's really normal. Great. so we haven't like fully got it together yet, but I would II would love that, and I do love the idea like being kind of a little bio about bar. It would be our to our operating support. Grantee, we can't do them like that. Pull the tight Earthlings already. Does that right? So yeah, yeah, no, it's a really cool gallery. If you guys haven't been there, I highly recommend it. They have really, really cutting edge programming. really cool stuff that you're not seeing anywhere else. And I know he's trying to get on the map for doing that kind of stuff so as much as we can help them. and even helping to get the word out to to Denver Media to bring in more people into our town, to spend money as they go out to restaurants, to go to these galleries and stuff. So the more collaborative we can look at it, whether it's helping them get into.

[13:04] What's that? A Daria you know any number of things. Just get that Denver audience, maybe coming to boulder a little bit more for the first Friday. Any member. yeah. And then Robert and Jennifer doing great you know, end of the day. We're a little upset that they didn't get a grant this year, and so I asked. I answered questions as they asked. and it's great. It's great to have that that communication line open that they have somebody to talk to. That's on the Arts Commission connect. but ends might prepare. I had a similar experience after emailing, I heard back from some. and I have sort of a range of experienced longevity in the city in my group so like the film festival.

[14:05] feel like I'm learning from them around a while. So we had a great coffee, and got to know each other, and you know, when grams come around, I might be of more use to them, but they they sort of know the terrain. But formerly Boulder ensemble theater company, formerly known as Butterfly Effect, have had a big change. And I don't know that I've offered that much the floor yet, but we've talked about things that could be coming, and I did have the pleasure of seeing full grade attending. You know I call myself in New York's novel Theater, and I was very, and my husband, too, and we're both very, very pleasant. Impress great show, and my parents are coming to town over Christmas, or even just a couple of last year. So I just like having sort of.

[15:05] and those oh, and wow! The arts heartbreak. Thank you. So I've met with them. And now I donated some stuff there. But again, there. they're not in a great need area right now, is there reports? That's not so. Did you meet with anyone from that seat? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then I met Mark at the show. Do it from that time said, Hello. But next, who's running show. So. But yeah, so just is settling in. It's gonna be. I highly recommend art. Oh, my God, it's it's unbelievable. We just walk around. They have everything, everything, everything.

[16:04] I made the mistake of bringing my 7 year old. Yeah, she's like she wanted to buy like the carousel live projector. I need 5. No one ever needed 5. No one ever wanted to sit through someone else's slide. But yeah, that's great. I feel here yesterday. so same experience. I emailed everyone and Lauren emailed everyone to me. And I. So Hello! And there's a handful of people that reached out Frickin flyers is always reaching out And she's you know. How do I say it without sounding like complaining?

[17:00] The point that she brings up is that she's space is not affordable for artists. and I spoke with another artist organization this morning, and they were just saying the same thing. And so so that makes me question. And I just a question. you know, like when the dairy is paying a dollar a month or a dollar a year. so that stays. But then charges and gets a lot of support from grants, but then they're charging harvest. It's like. level fees to get in there. Which makes it hard. And so I know some groups are playing in different tones, because they're more, they feel more welcome because the pricing is more affordable. So I just wonder how we can shift it so that that money trickles down into the artist button

[18:03] and employers. and oh. Local theaters met with them. That was great unless they have a board. and their faculty is very diverse. which I think makes them. They've come up with some programming like they've shown me the the numbers, and it's very impactful. And so I just really. it was good to know that. And I applaud them for putting people of color a leadership position. And you know. walking the talk. and they're not back in this trying to figure it out. Stay. So they already figured out they're doing it. They've done it. They've got the job pattern and yeah got to see their show. I think I talked about it last time you enjoy myself.

[19:04] It's great, and I saw whole country and and very moving. And I just saw So of anherts one woman showing about very, very, very impressive. And so. yeah, and I've gotten a lot of invitations. From local artists who are not. I'm not laying. I'm not liaison so. But I've been able to see there a lot of I just whatever. Hey, John. do you want to go, Mara? Sure I can update you on on 3 organizations. First is a Colorado Mahlerfest. I attended. They had a house concert and a preview for their upcoming year. Their artistic director. Kenneth. Oh, their artistic director was in attendance. Kenneth Woods. Sorry about that

[20:18] as well as their their Board and and Key members, members of Staff, and I have to say I was blown away. They they are doing some fantastic work. I think they're upcoming. Mahler fest in the spring is gonna be really amazing. And I think they're really starting to find ways to extend beyond just the work of Mahler. And they're doing a for instance, a a piece on I don't know how it's gonna turn out but a rift on a Hendrix piece as part of that. So I think that's gonna be really a fantastic festival this spring. I'm toward the studio arts boulder new facility. And for those of you who haven't been there it's just fantastic, and maybe if the rest of you haven't been. Maybe Matt can help introduction to get all of you through that building. I think it's just going to be a lot of very versatile

[21:11] spaces for making art, and as you all know, it's integral with a community, so it's it's walkable to North Boulder. And and then again, as you all know, I'm on the Bemoka board representing all of you. They're continuing to move forward with the plans for the expansion. They have not yet issued the rfp. But essentially everything's in alignment with the update that David gave you. I think that was in August. And and I just am really impressed by how broad their programming is, and how they're really addressing the the Dei objectives. And I should say one of the organizations. And maybe this is a a kind of a broader issue. One of them organizations said their their employee expenses is a real strain on the organization. And so I think this is a trend that we're gonna see both in the arts organizations. And II think it's across the board. You know, I know I think it's happening in architecture firms to that to attract and maintain the the best talent. You not only have to obviously pay

[22:20] decent living wages, but there's a lot of benefits that that folks are looking for. So I don't know if that's anywhere that the Commission can help. As far as sharing. I think, Lauren, you have salary data things like this. But just something in the back of our minds that that is becoming a pressure on a lot of the organizations. Right? I reached out to all my groups. And we decided to add the spot. And I haven't heard that just several anything, though to come again and just if I'm gonna get in touch with them. But I assume that it's kind of the same thing that we said, though once we get a little bit.

[23:04] Grant. I'll probably feel a bigger, said conversation. The one thing that I did do is I went to performance by the Boulder Symphony. and I've I've been doing in comparison to what I've had been used to seeing as an audience for. or classical music is that the symphony's audience was young. Okay. there were younger people there wasn't. It wasn't out. It wasn't entirely. But I mean they have a fairly young orchestra, and it's very diverse. So I mean, that's it, as they do.

[24:02] Applications they have to say about moves on that, but didn't have a chance to talk about anything. Just the companies are going internally, but that's my. but that was something. I did notice that full-time public theater kind of thing that it would. And over the crowd there wasn't that name so that and so I don't know if you have that experience. But I didn't know if that's something that could be a challenge. That was something that I really stuck out to me. And actually Mark reached out to me to ask what I thought of the performance, and I told him all the things I loved about it. But I said, I want to see you have a more diverse audience, because it was very one group of people. and he agreed. He's like, I really won't do. And I know he's working hard. He and I are actually working. He's helping these.

[25:03] He's sponsoring wind up markers as of because he's trying to get into different communities and helping connecting. But yes. I did notice that, and very much. Yeah. You know, I brought my husband. Really. Yeah. no matter. I don't know. Well, we'll thank you for for all of that. And we'll we'll continue to leave this on the agenda. It's an experiment. If it's not worth our time to have this every month, we'll adjust. So just let us know. Feel like it's just excruciating. Is that true? I really appreciated it, I thought, think it's great to hear what everyone's seeing in the community. I think it's great. I think, as we get into it, we can go faster. But I think it's really worthwhile

[26:11] a second. Thank you. We also have down other topics from the community. I feel like we already folded that in. So if you have anything else that you wanna add for that. I just want to say 1 one quick thing. I don't usually get into the team building the touchy deal. We stop, as it were, gotta look folder, and then for 33 years and never gets old, but I just wanted to say. despite that I really enjoyed the retreat. It was, you know, walking around there afterwards that was really cool, and then I I wasn't expecting that it to be so. So whatever emotional any number of things.

[27:00] So just thank you for all who put it together. Thank you. Yeah, it was great. I got a lot out of it. Yeah, I actually took my daughter after we were done. Hmm! I love that organization. Alright. I live in South Boulder, and often feel very fervent. I love that it was in our backyard, and we but we go there to that park like 3 or 4 times a week. I don't know how that she wrote, but yeah, I just love having the Rp. In our North. Thank you for that. I know the team. It really meant a lot to everybody that it was so long braced and understood and used and beneficial to people. So I'll share that

[28:01] commission business. I got it so every year. You've all been through this process right? But this is the behind the baby. I'll quickly before. These are questions that that's it that they ask during the process. And so the edits user, do you want Friday? You're welcome? But so I'll I'll take the notes and we'll send them for work. But these are specific questions that we bring to you every year to see if there's anything in these specific want to allow highlight of everybody had a chance to go.

[29:05] II guess I have a comment just to sort of discuss to start discussion. I think that all these bullets feel important to me. I feel like maybe the third to last bullet. I would love to have a discussion with permission as to whether or not we think that's the area that we think would be most meeting of ideas from new commissioners. And maybe there's something else that we could recommend that like we have on top of mine. I know it came up at the Retreat like, how do we get more arts out to the kids. And so maybe we can help craft the question that's more something that feels more topical and priority for us as a group city council is also thinking along those lines. So that's

[30:02] I have something. I have something tangential for that. Yeah. So when these interviews happen, if they're still done the same way. It's like, I don't know 3 or 4 council people, or whoever shows up the most. Yeah. Yeah. So what I what I'm finding is that sometimes in that kind of interview. as awkward as it as that is because all the candidates are there that are applying for this thing all at once being interviewed. It wasn't. It was one at a time. and also there were oh, there was only 2 that applied. Oh, my God! Usually we have like one. Yeah, mine were probably 6 or 7. Yeah. Well, with

[31:04] point that I was gonna make was sometimes when when there's more than 2 people being interviewed? There's some really good ideas to these questions, really good answers that come out of it. that I'm hoping somebody's keeping track of what those are cause. Even if that person doesn't get selected, we might have gained, like some really good ideas. and some of those answers that make any sense totally. Yeah. When I hate to lose that stuff, those those cool ideas. I mean. Well, if somebody's watching it afterwards, it's one thing to record is another to watch it, and I'm not trying to create more work. But I just hate to see stuff like good ideas not captured. something to think about. or I'm just planting that seed. Just something to think about. One comment I had is that we? We got the questions ahead of time. yeah, and their city Council

[32:01] like the questions that they ask everyone, and then commission specific questions, and there was a lot of overlap. So I don't know if it's possible to find out what the Council's already planning on asking cause that might help us narrow or so. Really. I don't think we're gonna have. You need to have edit set at Friday. We're not so. But maybe that's just a comment. Say to them that, yeah. there have almost an identical question. You don't need to. So how do people feel like I getting ideas on how to support our, to culture in our community that encourage artistic innovation and increase awareness and participation in access to arts. Is that our top tier, like idea of what we want to cultivate ideas around that are or can. Is there a better priority for the group of commissioners that.

[33:00] like that capturing ideas more. I think, the increasing audiences. university of Biology. diversity of audiences and audiences and artists and artists. little bit like next one but commitment to it, and then their ideas about how to do committed to do it. But if it doesn't. and any other thoughts like in before we start work sniffing something. Are there are there any other priorities or other ideas on this question or other people like the question you. Wanna is there anything in here about

[34:01] being committed to being here? They have the time last bullet point kind of says that without saying it exactly. Maybe Tweet the words a little bit to be like really clear. And then to me, really clear means having, like a metric like you should be expected to spend X number of hours a month. And I think we have that on the fa ques. Yeah. But maybe it's a good time to reiterate that. You know, whatever that X number is to say, I put it out there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I think that's I think that's a good suggestion, as like details can be found. And then the second question, like. Can you commit to this workflow? I mean, in a perfect world? We would have them see that link to the Faqs. Well, before, yeah, they're sitting with council members. Yeah. And my recollection is that exactly.

[35:09] I don't remember the question to get ahead of them. and I had already. like, read the essay. I wanted to know. Maybe when they send out the questions they could include that link. So they have to another chance to week people out there. Yes. yeah. So maybe adding that question, and then taking into consideration in in the interest of editing and making it shorter. I do find that the third bullet point is the the least effective for me in this situation. I think it's much more about all the other things than how they do. We don't have that much things that were. you know, partisan fighting. So that is in the interest of time, of an interview. I think that would be the least priority, and that might be one of the dental

[36:06] we have a lot of. if it was more contentious. I say, Oh, my God, we gotta have. I think it's I think it's a good way to read someone. And yeah, I would. The only problem is, people are. Gonna say what they want you to hear. what they think you want to hear right? Would you get that answer? Then you'll get the people who answer honestly, and then you'll get the answer of a wild card. Might say something like. I always take control and start throwing things until you know whatever. because, it gives you an opportunity to understand what may, you might be inviting into the room. And I think that's a very important land commission is to to have something. lots of things that pretty nicely with others or not in some way.

[37:08] Yeah, no, II completely agree. I just don't think you're gonna get honest answers out of a question like this. Sorry you say. II yeah, I just don't think in a 10 min interview asking all these questions about the arts and stuff that somebody's, gonna you know. Well, you know, I do get upset. That's maybe the conflict of interest would be more in the application of a interview like maybe you could take that one out and put it in there and within the application. I remember that that was when I, the third one could be sort of reframed, is.

[38:00] talk about a time that handle the conflict badly. I like that. or or and you could take it to the next level of so 2 Arts Commission members are arguing. how do you solve the how do you bring them together? Or how do you come to consensus in the media almost like a practical example? I don't even do like a math world, but see what they're traveling towards each other. So going back to that from last bullet. where we have people happy with that focus on gathering ideas, or we have the suggestion of what are your ideas to improve diversity of audiences and artists. Alright! 5 questions talked about. I like that, too.

[39:03] and just to give a nod to what I heard coming up a lot a lot in the retreat is that question of education and dedication. What are ideas about building people that have right. too much more salience people. because we don't really have any control over that. We just need grants if you can be in control of already. Yeah, there. I like the diversity. I have a full better than that

[40:04] integration. Mario, and with us. Wondering if least, when I interviewed, had looked at the cultural plan. do we have any. And I know that's gonna be starting to be rethought. Do we have any questions related to the cultural plan? Or do we want to refer them to that? Just a I don't. I don't have the answer to that. Just a question for all of you seems to be something the cultural equities. the cultural. Yeah. These statements I'm having always there

[41:02] right on this. Have you had any experiences with this board or the services that oversee that going to provide that with yes or no, because, either way, it's more about what they're bringing to the table. If they've noticed or not. I feel like we've had. First we have. II have access just to having haven't gone to meetings to to know what that's one of them commission again. is there anybody else who came on that I didn't know enough that I mean, I've worked from for them alright. Those meetings. Yeah, I didn't have any experience with this board, but I had been on the board and and some of yeah, but it was very different.

[42:08] 22. I didn't last. How long ago? Didn't know. I think that's okay. I don't think anyone you don't have to have experience. We wouldn't want people to feel that that's a barrier and not apply.

[43:02] And then. just to be clear for Lauren, I on the first left bullet. I'm hearing that. No, there's no opposition to changing that over to the getting. What are the ideas around getting more diversity and audiences? Okay. Warren, you have what you need, you. Wanna I'm available tomorrow if you want to. And then So edits go out, and then the application that opens the public on December eighteenth sometimes. So so. I will

[44:02] ask you to think of people I don't know for that. It opens in the number 18 24. That's okay, I will submit. But we want to push it out. We want to be fit. Anybody that would let me see for benchmarks here. Right? Alright. Thank you. Okay, we have a little bit and thank you. Because Bruce is leaving. That's why we're getting. But I don't really minding that. I thought you weren't leaving until April. I think that's with that my last meeting. But I need to that. They have those months to interview. And then. oh, the deadline and share. Okay? And then they okay. And and then you and

[45:01] right on. Yeah. okay, you're honest with me. and I would sort of Oh, gotcha, gotcha gotcha gotcha gotcha? Okay? Yeah. Got it. We should just make a note that we know Bruce. One thought for the hugs and warm chat when I hear you say, Yeah. have you heard? Okay, so let's move on to B, which is the message to City Council.

[46:02] which at the time of the retreat, I think, weren't sure whether or not they were even going to be soliciting or not. But that's so. Yeah. So for this meeting in particular, we wanted to be sure, because of the timing of it. that we do get to discuss your priority right and that you also kind of elect somebody to wrap the weather. That's the case, and then we will help shepherd it around. I think that's good sunshine. But for this meeting you want to talk about priorities in the last few letters they've had 4 or 5. So if you all kind of hopefully agree on general ideas for your programs and elect somebody to work on a letter. If they ask. and then we'll as soon as we find out how them. if they're asking for a letter format that is great

[47:08] involved. I will reiterate my offer. If you ever want to do this as a video letter, I'd be happy to volunteer my services to fill them awesome cool. which I think lends itself to the arts. Very well. I love that. I whether it's a screenplay or a letter I'm willing to put in time to write it. I would love if Jeffrey is around. because we have a lot of data I would love and help you should do that with the data that we have access to. So

[48:08] figure out. do we need to come up with those priorities tonight. Yep. okay, start like, let's start to get a list together. and we may have time depending on what the time is, for when we have. and we'll be going through iterations of it. So there will be time by like. oh, yeah. can I ask. what is that perfect like welcome. What are we? Why are why are we sharing that priority? Because Council has their retreat? February March March. So they established their own work plan. We want to help them. The arts top of mind.

[49:01] That's the short version. What would you say may have one. They don't have. Okay. typically, it would just be more money. But I think clearly we've got this diversity of I think that can be, echoed the diversity of audience. maybe integrating the arts and everything the city does big statement. But about breaking that down later, I'm just trying to get some buckets here. arts in the schools.

[50:05] and whether that I mean that might be something I'll have to go back to the. In this school I read. I read a lot of grants that had people going to school, although I don't know which ones actually got it. I know, Maria. that means Matt could be talking more. This year's a little bit. not only because we don't know what they're gonna ask for before, and all that, like, we're we're One of the things that staff and council you wasn't as well pretty is how to. and so keep going. I just want to point out that in most years where they would look at your priorities and pick it in context. I have a feeling that helpful

[51:00] quarter. what we should do in mind. And I have a lot. and and we've had an ongoing public offering the support, or they care about that kind of detail like this. I think they'd want to know. What should they keep in mind red flags and the pitfalls that you guys. what are the priorities? How should think about this? You know. Yeah, I think we'll have plenty of time, and you'll be on the front lines of saying What are the account? Was more like? The principal is on the level of like that sound a little. Yeah, I think it. You know, we were to follow that I'm not suggesting that's the right one. But we were following that along. It's like, before the living event uses the big thing like, think about how to spend this money.

[52:09] Had it worked out like that, would be the sort of thing nodding no words. what do you run that book when we're here? Okay? Right? So well, what I had to say about it actually was tying into this grant reports that we have. It's just that I'm just gonna say, I think that if the venues are gonna charge

[53:03] large numbers for artists to perform, then we need to raise the amount of money that we give to small organizations and individuals so that they can afford to. Okay, then listen. you know. and cause I was just noticing on the Grant report. Hi. the the number. the bear reading that video had like a 4.2 K views. Okay? And then but there they got $5,000 because there was a individual grant. Yeah. And then and I think the way that I read it, let's say we're $7,000 in red in their budget. Right? So. And then large organizations

[54:00] and get double the menu. I haven't seen anyone reach that amount. People so just giving bigger numbers. smaller group. a bridge, the brat, because they're doing they're doing work. They are reaching there making unexpected. And I don't know if it's rule. But there is a goal of making the small organization being one more means to do that. What trying to how the how our brand-news funding should be distributed amongst what sizes. Yes. but I hear you saying, like the venue affordability. the underlying principle

[55:02] artists need to be able to afford to perform in our city for our audiences? Yeah. and to even be able to simple. is it appropriate? Is it appropriate to say something like we support. create boulders, concept of building a 750 person performing Arts Center is that in line with what we're so everyone agreed with that one. And I think, Bruce, I think that's shifting a little bit that their findings are that has to be adaptive reuse. It's not a new new facility. right? Right? Yeah. But I guess that this is the bigger picture of concept of making some spaces available.

[56:00] Yeah. I didn't know if that was something that which you want to say. We need to support that or affordability abandonings. Mix of venue. You know that that's something that the cultural plan playwright. So maybe, just generally speaking, yeah. Yeah. And to that point. I think if that makes sense, people move. I would love to underscore last plan. Why? And that that I think that that's worth okay on it years long. Also

[57:01] what that the Dei focus and and what leads to us having questions and the grant applications about how and leadership artists side of things promote diversity. that that sort of attention take care forward, and not just the satisfied as well. We did pretty good job on that. We thank a horrible job and time to move on to something else, you know. So, continuing to well. row, R. Get more like hand records.

[58:01] Oh. waiting here. you need to integrate up. Yeah. And I mean, you want to stay delayed. But yeah, say that people. it works for us and the arts can help. And you know well, and I was piggybacking on that, and thinking about what you said about salaries and all that, that, to encourage all the commissions to think outside the box when it comes to the art. So like the housing. Good thing about you know. But just so, not just for city council to keep the arts at top of mind, but for for it to be a conversation across, you know, to raise awareness. and it lends itself more to some and other

[59:05] lottery census find the same thing. It's not wrong. the biggest challenge before the arts. probably nothing on the truth. arts and reflection. No. you know that's all. Anything else in terms of like bullet point. Have one. Do you have one? I would suggest we include affordable housing.

[60:01] I know that's a little outside of our or purview. But I think that creatives need affordable housing to stay in this community. Yeah. and and following. I was surprised. I asked someone today how much actors? Yep. and I was told it's like 3, 3, 50 a week for 20 h of a person. and alright for for performances. So say they rehearse for 7 weeks. So they get paid that they perform. Okay, so and and I, I was shocked because as a when I my fee, for when I do like private parties, or like birthday parties, or whatever I charge, 2, 50 for 20,

[61:08] sorry I don't know how anyone pays for so salary housing venue and then fund higher funding for individual and small element. And then I think I was hearing, though, are are you guys hearing something different than Matt was saying. Terms of making a recommendation to city council about how would we budget that they give us brain so much going to general operation which is going to fall large, that that

[62:01] to no, it's more like a. So because we get we get to work on the budget like they they make staff will make the recommendation as to how to allocate our budget in terms of how much is going to large organizations, how much is going to budget project grants, how much those grants should be. And that so we get to 10. And we get to work data. Yeah. we glaze over our core next year, when we careful input all kinds of stuff before

[63:00] we have 7. I should be clear about one thing, the the housing affordability. I think it's really important that we include that in this letter, that it's in the context of artists and or creative, yet live like live work, housing and stuff that would be was like real specific about this. It's it's a huge issue in vulgar. generally speaking, of course, but specifically, I think, as Matt said, to stay on our lane and refer to it just already. I'm envisioning that like in just to briefly lay this out. How it's appearing to my head is Laura Lauren and I have talked about that. There is a report that talks about all the areas of municipal life that the arts impact on on a like dollar basic also like crime. And you know that there is a web of how arts interact with

[64:07] helping municipalities. and that there is something to be said in the letter about that. and and why then also other areas through the. And I think I think that and bring it all back. Can I ask us as this is, gonna be out in left field? So it's a stretch question. For all of you. I mean, I was, I was really impressed with the conversation with Carl at our retreat. Should should we be asking for any partnerships or advocacy at the State or Federal level, as it relates to the arts.

[65:01] and and have city council support in that. You don't know what that is. So again, I'm through through and just throwing that out to all of you. I think that would be great if, like. My question is, when trying to ask that specific ask, was it like. General, like, we're going to be giving you some more thoughts for that, and we may come to you, I think, for that. So you're going for Trevor. You know. What I would say we got we got great call

[66:01] but acquired ports. whatever you know. So we're not so experts. Yeah, yeah, they're great. And there is a federal. So he reads it. Several right? Sort of, any level? Yeah, yeah, there is American city arts which seems to think that we all, with all the data or the they also have kind of the rest of updates whenever things are happening. Federal level, right. Oh. I'm not sure that they but Wendy. okay.

[67:00] at any rate, I'm talking about the Federal version of Cool. awesome. I love 7, wondering if you said something about the Ddi. We can maybe change the wording on that to. And people like color and or people who are historically marginalized having them in leadership. I think we've all used for lie enough. but some kind of confusion around it like. Well, I don't get it, cause I let some native indigenous people come and perform here. So doesn't that mean that we are doing the Di? It's got an all white staff and board?

[68:08] There's a difference letting people into your club for a moment. and I'm actually having them in having ownership. Having a voice I'll share with you. I saw a thing. It was a call for artists. Thing it was in like Kentucky or something, but they had taken some historic phones, and we did them know with the call for artists they were offering at home. trying to get yeah. Awesome. all right. Well, in the interest of time, if you think of anything, maybe passing on the staff, and again

[69:01] of the germinate the thought until we can talk about it. So you said you had 7 or 8. What are they? Well, Just in order of charity. But and and I can write integrating. and how it is located. Work at our office at our table. 2 other work are controlled. according. I'm just gonna say, make the venue perspective like this sort of thing. Portability, if I mean affordable housing. salary and employment support so specifically for creatives in both of these companies and salary creative

[70:00] basically account and then encouraging. We're gonna historically marginalized in leadership and in other work and alone. I don't think you can an advocate? Yeah. advocacy. Yes, advocacy and Federal level. So we'll keep teasing us out. And as we get a deadline we've got a couple months start working on language. Once right. this is our priorities. Take pick the top 5 of our 17 suggestion. Right? Don't bother asking the other. and how well, this relates to the new funding.

[71:03] Okay, you want to hit up on the December meeting. Sure. I even speak perfect. So that's Bill. So at the December meeting, unless we have any grant reports that are urgent, and that means they. So somebody payment. And so I wanna double check that our. But last year there was just one, they said, Sure, that's cool, and then we can hold the December meeting. So we ask you at this meeting.

[72:04] 2, 3. He asked you to vote to cancer, visible art commission meetings and also ways required. If it is the case, then we'll put something so public. everybody. and just do a quick link. literally live on it. And I move that we can't. December Art Commission meeting unless required to meet to approve, grab the vote. I second it all in favor classes. Maria has her hand. It all right. Lauren Grant reports great move is right up. We had 2 reports, and you mentioned already even Celia.

[73:03] one individual and one for the organizations. and then we have the. You have the chance to recruit them with individual ones. Questions postpone or handheld effect. And and I have language. What? But question on comment. Lama. It's me, Mac, are you okay? You need anything. I think she doesn't have. She needs to have her mute. Okay, I'll go get you something. What would you like? Yep. time. Okay.

[74:00] beautiful. So I just wanted to say. did you guys call? Say something to me? Sorry about that? Oh, you heard me sorry about that. I just wanted to say that I really appreciated her. and I just appreciate how cream this report was. It was very to enjoy Celia. I'm sorry with the Baron. Just how clean professionals very clear and where and how the money was spent. And then the video, as I mentioned before, just had. you know, over 4,000 views. So it really reached a lot of people which I really impressed with. I just want to congratulate her on a job very well done. and then the same for the Craft festival

[75:00] which I actually went to. I didn't know that it was an Arts convention. It's just there. It was cool and again. with this budget being so clean and clear, and showing very specifically how the money was spent. Just have to really congratulate people when they do that. They had. They had a 750 people. Which is a good number. But again, like I said, this video videos are different. But that's again, it's just my. there's the same more money to the I am. I really appreciate it. There, I thought. That's a great project on an important topic. And again along the same lines, wanted to congratulate them in getting this project done in the mid.

[76:05] I the comment. II loved the craft report also. I was not able to get the link on the photo store, so if they are able to provide that as an informational thing. I love that I know I'm not talking. Were there more than 2? Yeah, they make right any other comments or motion. That's fine. So I will be able to share your comments with the like to make motion. I move that we approve the Grant reports from Celia Tui and the community roots, arts festival 1 s. any other discussion before

[77:01] all in favor. Thank you. Alright. Also, field trip club keep going. So this is more of an update. And so kind of applications come in learning back up the Cultural Field Fund. If you all know we have $2,000 a year that's to be applied for by teachers at title money. Video folder is asking to bring students to cultural great. It's a great program. The application super easy is very like, who's coming? What are you spending the time. Generally we get through most of it, or all of it. I had the location come in from Justice High School. which is actually in Lafayette, but it's one of the title one school

[78:01] like that's important. That's the title, one list, and then it's changed. I didn't know that it was in my team or a year, but it had been 5 years at this point. There's 6 schools on the list. and 3 of them are not in the city of. So what I would like to and together is that you change the language instead of saying title one schools in the city of Boulder, we say in the Boulder Valley School district to attend have experiences with holders or institutions. I think you all know this title. One tools are designed to serve students. 80% of them are identified as low income or equal homeless. And I think it's for me for us to adjust our our work. be bringing students, some of which also live with the people right. but to be bringing them into the viewing board.

[79:03] So I think, unless maybe you have really drastic uses that were really like. you're really challenged by this idea. This is more of a recommendation, and it would begin in 2024. The application you got is for May of next year, so they will be able to be funded here, and we would make this adjustment with the next program. We don't want to change the current program that it's like. And it is to attend things in the school. Yeah, that would be the that would help us still be supporting city folder programs. and I think that's the only reason I would be comfortable with it. Yeah, we're bringing audiences to older performances. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And justice high school doing amazing things anyway. So it seems like they're good with it. Yeah. And the other 2 are we love way and another one that it's a new like. They they shifted around pretty substantially. But I think.

[80:04] what are the 3 and 3 you mean online? And Hi. pioneers might have pioneers them up. Oh, that might be the other one. Yeah. Pioneers them up. Yeah. And then and then that case. okay? And it shifted over time, also feature. But yeah, I think you met people make that change little bit about that. I feel like it. Alliance with the recent adjustment. Oh, wow. I'm sure I'm gonna I'm gonna journey to the Ammon. Yeah, okay, so, Emerald.

[81:08] do you have a meeting? Yeah. Now, I was not wrong. I didn't any questions or questions for the don't see any questions. Let's move on to the next one great Grant program discussion. Michael. Unspent phone. Yes. So this is another process that we do for every year where we have funds. That remain from our grant budget. So this year we have the only, but this is probably a lowest out of our point 4 million. We have $10,000. Good job, everybody. $2,834. And so what, we asked as our finance team. To shift this into the next year of

[82:09] our recommendations is to assign 2,000 of it to be added to a community project. Grant for organizations achieve probably know those are the survey most applied for and have horse rate of getting a grant. Right? So usually there's like 20 by 30 applicants, and we have 6, 7, and then the 8 34. Then you 44 Does anybody have thoughts about staff or the speakers. You have not. I'm I'm fine with that. But I just want to plant the seed of something. 1. One of the things I think we're lacking is lacking. Overall is grants to kids. And personally, I'd like to see at some point I don't know if this money is the one to start it with, but

[83:02] at some point. you know whether it's old or arts week and getting kids paying kids $500 to do a hour-long performance about something during Boulder Arts week. Maybe we take care of the venue. And these people or people show up and do their performance. And they're they're getting paid. the next level of that would be an actual granting program for kids. I just wanted to put that out. What inspired you. You know, I'll say exactly what I'm trying to get to the point where I can do this with the older phone commission and give particularly underserved filmmakers grants that they can do their films and feel like they're doing it professionally, cause they have a budget, even if it's 500 or a thousand dollars. That's a lot of money for kids doing film.

[84:01] And I just think it's it's it's encouraging the the the arts as a career path as a potential career path. Besides creating art for the community who enjoy I when I when I ran breakthrough arts to the water years ago, the the teen area of the Creek festival. and we had an art tent for high school students from the district share their work. And after the first year I was like, Why don't we sell that. And because we want to deepen the real world of being an artist. But the you know, they were saying they were like $25 100 bucks. I actually just found a piece that I bought. And yeah, just the validation is a young artist, that what they're doing is worthwhile to other people, and it's not just like their parents putting it on the fridge

[85:09] and you know I don't want to. I'm not pushing that we need to take this money and do that. Not starting now. But I just wanted to plant that seed. Okay. okay. How do we go about the proposal? Did you have any other comments on this? I have. I have a question. Just does Lauren or Matt does it? I mean, I think $10,000 means the budget was run really well. But is there any a any push back from the city when you roll money over to the following year? They think that you have too much money

[86:01] I like. Yes. Well. no. $10,000 is yeah, absolutely great like question and thought, it's frankly kind of small for the city of Holder, especially level. I think last year, and we don't get to roll over. We actually have to ask for an investment today. So you have to give permission. If they we have to ask my permission to receive that because it is dedicated to. But I think if we were seriously under spending, there would be a lot more concern. But 10,000 out of. and I just city. But it's a big deal for you want to edit appreciate being an Iona?

[87:02] I think she doesn't ask this. But where does it come from? Oh, it's it's understood, and in different ways. There's a few organizations that only have the parcel funding, and they're still understanding categories. But nothing like. So we've received some funding back home program or year. But it's kind of like weird spending. They didn't ask for the Williamsburg. No, we'll put on it whenever right. Okay. that chat by the public. Oh, that was me in the very beginning. Oh, yeah, so thank you. So we have reached the end of our agenda. I will bang this and close the meeting, and maybe we can stop recording and just

[88:02] hang out if we've got. Do we have to talk about.