November 3, 2023 — Boulder Arts Commission Retreat

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] And then that resonates with you also, like so I like I like David Lynch media room. I like reading literature. highlight, the aquarium version.

[1:01] That's all right. I just had a little bit awesome. Nice. I like no. I like indifference. Oh. shameless I spend a lot of time watching

[2:06] apologies. I like second time. Oh, my God! Oh, yeah. And

[3:12] I like another percentage. I would like to get out and see more productions. I run nice

[4:04] like to meet of our successors every time become a leader in our community. One of the next steps for us. Hmm! I'd like to be able to have us to, not just the top 6, but like the top 20, I would like for us to be able to

[5:01] better and best to report back on our computing impact. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry people of color came home. And. pardon me. like everyone will return to. Yeah.

[6:11] I I would like to see a continuation of diversify of types of organizations in what they are producing. I would like to see So for for older artists, and getting a portable and and for the arts to expand more

[7:04] ways of. And I didn't have me things that we don't normally talk about like how much it can cost New York. 2 more. We'll see. Okay. I like there'd be ours that everyone will already. Last one I would see continued collaboration from collaborative.

[8:25] so do you mind my purposes? Okay. the. And what we said at the time

[9:04] a way for you to articulate work that we do. And so Sam has a mission. Our mission is to consolidate and we sort of use that as a north star to the work we do. and the feeling at the time was the Commission's works a little bit different, and this is how and so if if you want to change this.

[10:00] So oh, maybe we work collaboratively with city staff first. and I'll create a highly innovative, vibrant, and resilient. And I mean for other reasons why I said in this position being signed.

[11:01] And it's II actually like it. The the only thing I don't wanna make it longer, but it's it's almost missing. Is that and the community to support artists and arts organizations, every the only criticism I have education situation. Okay. that's the yeah, seriously.

[12:26] So I like adding our organization for that application based branch program, the organization for my work this year will Bill, and present it is, what is the

[13:04] we are investing the tax dollars? We're using tax base. And you're leveraging. I don't know recommendation. I'm just putting it on. I mean, is the expectation of that conceptually, it's just or contextually, as assume when people read that

[14:02] the contacts is that it's a city of older thing. And so the tax dollars are assumed. Most people. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I can see how other people may have totally. Yeah. Laura Brandon, would you mind just adding. after artists an article really arts, comma arts, organizations. artists, and arts organization? Thank you. It looks like it. This is something that we need to approve by alright.

[15:05] highly innovative resiliency. Second motion favor. Okay. okay, thank you. We didn't have any discussion.

[16:27] Yeah.

[17:21] okay, so while we're doing stuff. well, that's great.

[20:40] As we report 30 min. Lauren's gonna pull up the presentation. Join me for this great. You gonna click through, and I'll switch when you're talking. Okay. Great So another thing that we do with groceries is gonna talk about leader head for staff.

[21:03] And this has been your advisory role. We'll talk about that person. But let me hear your thoughts about what we're gonna be doing and advice you have to make next slide, please. Otherwise I don't know what I'm supposed to say. Alright. So this is the 2 min summary visioning as well. 2,000 people. We said, What is your priorities for culture in the community? They gave us a bunch of answers in a lot of different ways, using a lot of different interactions. We took direct quotes from people that sort of summarize the feelings of the community and create this 6 community priorities. They are priorities for everyone in cultural leadership, including the government, and is basically the community speaking to itself about what is important.

[22:22] We digest that into a collective vision. Together we will grapple with social, physical, and cultural environment to include creativity as an essential ingredient for well being. Prosperity enjoyed everyone. Community is that's the are important to making success in any of our priorities until we go across the board and address the role of the arts in achieving our goals. And as I mentioned, the staff's mission is to achieve more in the community around this fish. Okay? And then, after taking a little bit of a exercise in collecting those priorities and that vision into a municipal strategy. We came up with these 8 priorities

[23:10] which we have been working on now together. For since the 8 year for 8 priorities in a 9 year cultural plan, so we're looking at how to complete the things we can understand things you couldn't do, and oh. transform this into the next steps. So that's important to remember about the next. But okay. an important transformation happened. We talked about many times moved to the community vitality department. It was precipitated by the library district employment. We needed to understand where what was the future of the arts, but it ended up being much more than a convenience. Exercise, right? That the the way that community vitality addresses our needs in boulder

[24:08] was the perfect fit for the arts program to come in and create zoom energy and to transform itself to be this interesting self sustaining title of what happens for you as residents and for visitors. What is the experience like a meeting here? And that includes cultural vibrancy that there should be a lot going on, you should be able to step outside and build something wonderful is gonna happen to you today. and that includes all of the arts program we're talking about as well special events. But then the places that that activity happens in is district vitality, that our activity centers should be, have the infrastructure uses and the the policies in place to make sure you're enjoying it, and edification of using our public spaces is strong, and as our District Vitality office, and then your access to all of that wonderful places and that wonderful activity

[25:14] is about access for all that, the way you get into town, and the experience you have of either walking out of your door, taking the bus in biking around parking in neighborhoods, parking in garages. that sequence is actually very important and often left alone. But the magic about this is that really intentional, that those 3 things should be off of each other and keep each other going to make this a really wonderful place to begin. Chris Jones, how do you do alright? So, positioning into this new way of doing business. We've learned a lot, and we've adjusted and improved the arts program significantly with that fit. It's been

[26:08] really great experience, and I think it has a lot of problems for the future. Especially this strategy can become more real in whatever the next iteration of the cultural plan becomes. we can take more advantage of this. In order to do that. Our director has just overseed a little bit a a restructuring to make things a little more organized along these lines. And one of the things is to create a new position in the middle of creating a new position for a a senior manager to oversee both cultural library and creative vitality. And so one thing that's happening right now is that I'm setting it on an intern basis to help manage that and get that start off well and and it's very exciting work. And it also means that we can get together special events and district vitality with the arts more closely and find efficiencies, but also just become more effective overall.

[27:08] So I'm really excited to do that work over next month, while we hire a permanent position for that which is going to be a real good game changer for us on staff to make that happen. So I'm gonna pause for a second to make sure that we all feel good about the cultural plan and where we come from. We're gonna talk about where we go soon, Buddy. If there's any questions about the plan itself, and how we how we've been executed for for medial question. Sorry I should notice downtown.

[28:21] And so we provide services within the boundaries. Thanks. Thank you. There. Higher level investment in that area versus city by sales tax. So that spread same level of services and across the entire city

[29:16] we're in our. That's why they higher as far as the work we all do. You are currently still in general fund operation. The reason for coming to the demo. Hmm, that's something.

[30:08] yeah, I would say, for the most part right? But it's context. And I think that's interesting is that if someone says I'd like to. So area planning the activity center retail, all of that does have an impact into the conversation of our program. So we do have an active role. But it's not

[31:23] II guess the first thing I think of. I guess the first thing I think of, though in our in the context of our wording grants is, to be sure, I mean, I can see how geographic location could play a role. I mean, what if we were giving all our grants to people that live on Ableton Hill and not realizing we're not giving any to like Samantha or any number of places around. And so I just wanted to. What do we prefer? Look at the data right? So we developed cultural assets, understanding what is the current? How are we only

[32:07] putting in, you know? Both who are who are more inclined to to see resources. It doesn't mean that they're not providing a city wide service, or think about the recovery.

[33:01] So you know, thinking about, how do you see more policy based on data that should not be the manager. Correct. So just wanted to. Only so, this is not the other deal, you know.

[34:03] redo every single street, every single day across the entire city. All the same time they have to strategically ship over many, many years to get the utility their responses for those general fund every road, every yeah. Good. I'm just stepping into. Go through some of our 2023 accomplishments. And I'm gonna offer them to ask you to talk about 156 grants, which includes the some upper relief funding which is continuing and also part of those grants. I also just wanted to filling out again our website shift, because I think it's gonna be a little shocking whenever we get our website in like a week. So I just wanna keep saying also, art, some economic prosperity. 6 research after 7 years publish. And we did like,

[35:16] that's really some news. Step on it. Hopefully, some more as it's coming out. But it was that's not research that a lot of our organizations helped us with. So, thanks to those organization, thanks to this organization that you're listening, it also shows just how much you tax through the economic. Oh, we're not having it today. It might be resonant

[36:06] nonprofits. Oh, yeah. oh, totally so there is. If you go to the boulder, Colorado economic prosperity. 6. There's a good calculator of a nonprofit like they can put in their own nonprofit data and get back how much their organization can pass the economy. There's also all of the older data, is there? The full, the full report? And then they shorten report all kinds of stuff. Let me know.

[37:10] Week, of course. Let me get next year. I know real real world. We've done

[38:19] Social street. That happened on Thirteenth Street, and then also the Placeholder festival. She had a 3 day festival right off the Pearl, and she had her set up there as well. So that was really engaging with community about public space. We are. We'll do some more engagement policy work and help us help me some of our other programs. And then we're also in the middle of hiring all of our coordinators to do that kind of help me with bigger, long term products. I'm hoping to to show.

[39:01] Thank you. We are leaders in the broader community. No. thank you, Walter. Hmm.

[40:01] so let's see, that'd be. oh. yeah. Okay. So coming after 2024, we'll be onboarding our new as always, ongoing, planning, funding, figuring out which capital products are moving forward which timelines for us to jump in on. Make sure we get our allocation of 1% funding, pull up panels together and take off the public. Our selection process.

[41:21] Of course, ongoing new public art project management. So this is stuff like including and just there's probably a handful of products that are in process right now. So north, folder art district North Broadway quarter. Project, the North older Library project, fire station. 3. So those are all in process. Of course, donations project. So that's kind of more lands with the panel to review. I really wanna do a collection assessment and audit when we get the collection auto excel spreadsheet into a database

[42:01] and then hopefully, website, much more robust and interactive collection. Initially, where is everything? Get into a database. And then we can start creating better signage for the network. I didn't feel like creating signage for our works that are on my cell spreadsheet. So there's there's steps. We're going to get there incrementally and of course, maintenance projects. I just met with silo workshop yesterday. They have 3 to 5.

[43:15] Question that this is one of your artists hiring grants. So the laundry style at the nobo. Right? Yeah. that's it. And Maria Fernando, right? Mickey Mountain. So working on student our 2024 grant program. Perhaps obviously the quarterly cultural organizations on it. So it's like what we mentioned. We hope host is quarterly with lots of different topics, right? With all the funders to talk so broad range. If you ever have a topic of interest, you please your needs, maybe because, of course, we're always here in the community, or a better interest to use commissioners.

[44:02] the sponsorship program, and the finally of Arpa funding. So within the Grant program are some of the Arpa awards as well as some of the funding that is ongoing like the Arts Administration funds. Sure. this is yes. so as you saw position. I hope to introduce that person to you in the next meeting. and they're gonna have some old responsibilities like getting our monthly forms for artists back up and running, put together some more of a resources and support programs. But most of their work is gonna be new stuff. And so it's industries that were disproportionately impacted by the recession. And so that includes artists and use and creative businesses.

[45:12] So those parts of the strategy are now elevated for 2 years will figure out how to really respond to the conditions. So things like reviewing our senses, study finding out what those new conditions are and trying to create recommendations to deploy and and doing the program around venues and new sort of senses around audience. We know that menus are still struggling to recover the rest of the economy. So understanding that creating new programs there, but also well, these are the other strategy areas. But taking a look in collaboration with our district office and our economic mentality office of the mix of programs that are available to create a businesses. And if there's anything missing in that on the venues front while we're still trying to do that assessment and understand we're also going to be finishing up the renewal of release for the theory for the next

[46:05] couple of decades. Make sure that they have smooth runway ahead of them. And we're on the team for the safety tax, which, as you remember, 10% of that tax is going to nonprofits and the venue issues that they're having in our community. And so that's a out of finance. But we're participating to make sure that that is really impactful for nonprofits. And then our use strategy bringing some of the things back in the grants program and in outreach to colleges, universities and high schools. and trying to tie back in to some of the things that we started up before the pandemic that had to let go and bring back some of those alright a little dormant lately. So one of our goals is to really kind of revive that program, evaluate the program and see what new opportunities might be out there. Older. Strong is another community initiated project

[47:07] Memorial monument, something on public space. So I'll be kind of where they need me. I'll be helping them navigate the city and all of our processes. and then subcommittee planning and district. Let me see. Thank you. that's something. I think that's just

[48:29] this is a flower. Yeah, and a couple of local like the makery a couple of local And so we dialogue which is our part of our engagement communication strategy. So continue to managing and grow our communications inventory. We just have past $5,000 on government.

[49:02] also, we're still using X, we have a user that is super popular. I mean, it's really strong. And people use it a lot. Necessarily, it's one of our main communication strategies for the Arts week 2024. We get to wonderful. We have some new fresh ideas this year. Working on like just regional leadership. So we participate a lot of regional like the Colorado Oh, Cci, going to conferences everything that's happening with our neighbors here and beyond. And then cultural plan next steps, figuring out next year what and how we're going to do things. And I'm happy to say that I think

[50:01] building our communications over the last 8 9 years now is really really going to be helpful as we go through our next round of cultural planning whatever that is because here again doing well because of community. I'm not sure about the broader community, but that's for later. And then you'll be wearing these outfits for the next. So I wanna take a moment after, you seem like sort of what we do. It's like, Okay, Staff, gonna be plenty busy. But we need to help. And so here's what we need to help with this first call. There is part of, and those are largely around decisions about the distribution of funds from the brand program. Okay? So that's very important.

[51:11] you have other branch responsibilities, though. Scoring. giving us advice on like you said on the criteria and process, participating in the workshops and helping us to make sure that people have a good experience with their interactions, whether they get it correct or not. and so in addition to oh, and then the sponsorship teams a little bit separate. But it is another way that we find it so thank you, for you know public art also has some requirements of you know this isn't a law. It's a policy. But you are responsible for helping advise the city manager on the implementation plan, which is our approval, to proceed with projects

[52:00] participating in selection panels, to choose the artists to proceed with the project and approving the process at the end of that, to get an artist under contract. same social channels. Another way that you interact with public art. But all of that, plus all the other programs we do ours programs, older arts, we, our research programs. All of that, we need your help on first of all, being ambassador of this workhouse community to be able to articulate why this is important, and why people should participate in all this and then advising staff. Everything that we do. We need your input to make sure we're being added to the goals so that sort of wraps it up, and I wanted to linger on that last part for a second, because the you know, we very but yes, the culture plan is Sunday at the end of 24. We actually can't tell you right now what it's gonna look like over the course of this year or 2.

[53:06] Do whatever we need to do for 25 and after and that's for several reasons, is is, first of all, we need to have a scoping exercise where we understand? What about the plan should continue? What about the plan needs to be? set aside? And what do in the community? We're not responding to. Also, the city is going through strategic plan work right now. and there's a pause on new master strategic plans and departments while we figure out city wide plan works back in that first part of next year, that is, gonna inform what the cultural plan looks like. And last, but not least, is how we integrate with strategy for the department. So those things kind of have to fall into place. But what we're going to be asking to do, regardless of how that holds in places in some manner to come to us and advise on scope, outreach, and eventually results of the planning exercise, and at the next meeting we may be talking about 2 different scenarios depending on if the vote on 2 ways, yes or no

[54:07] community will decide, and will be responsive to that. So that's our first game. and then we'll have some more questions to ask for you to make sure we're going the right direction on that. Okay? Any questions. Okay? So I have a a question while you're standing at the other room where I know we're but just brief. Briefly, if 2 way passes. The first thing about that is as far as like from a financial and policy perspective, we're playing a conservative approach and assuming it's not going to pass and making plans for that first. But we're not naive to the fact that that's gonna be transformative if it does pass. And so we have the the luxury.

[55:03] if it does pass, of taking the year of 2024, because funds will begin to be generated. January 25. Correct. So my not answer to you is we we're going to take advantage of that time and do it carefully. So I can't say anything for certain. There's certain things personally that I can assume. That program I would expect to continue and be enhanced. Public art has some funding gaps that need to be addressed, I would feel that it would be behind addressing some of those things. The way that we support venues. This has been pointed out several times over the course of past 8 years. And it's been something that the cultural plan, quite frankly, is sufficient. We address certain circumstances in 2015. That change very well.

[56:01] So I'm gonna set understanding that then use may be a part. But I'm also keenly aware of our interactions with other programs. So we talked about like overlap with districts, with special events. I'm thinking about the fact that some of our city owned nonprofit operated venues are not ready for climate change and the implications to their programming their audience in their buildings. I think there's all these opportunities for us to be paying attention to. I can't say which of those will be the priorities here. Cause. Not only do we need to see if the voters pass it. We're gonna have new counsel and a new city watch strategic plan. All those inputs are gonna add her to things that I just mentioned, or things that I can't imagine. Right? So yeah, we're we're gonna take some time in the context of. And I think not. Only

[57:09] we keep you in the loop, but we can also thank you. And so alright, we are moving on to Okay, so and

[58:02] essentially flat. We thought about that over the past few months I won't go into detail there. There's a little bit of pop across. All departments for sort of inflation increases to to read realign our programs. But because we're in this in between phase of the total plan, some setting we're not going to really start anything new. So at least nothing new that possible. So the the work across the city is that this is constrained environment. We're being very careful. The outlook over time is that constraining it's

[59:02] or for faculty. And so, being very mindful to be very careful about how we plan. So even even starting next year, the idea is that we take the programs that are working well, that are ongoing, and that we're very careful of anything new as we any questions about that. So our next question is, is is to you about topics for future agendas. Now we have a a business cycle that works pretty well of grantees and public art season, of certain key points where you have work to do. But there are moments in there for us to have different types of conversations about your priorities, and so just wanted to turn back to you right now to say, like, what do you see? Is emerging in that regard

[60:20] and so that staff can start to work with the chair and vice chair and start plans with this. So, for instance. as we said a year ago, we had a conversation about tolerance, and that's transformed into a couple of different items that we worked on together. So that's a great example of what might happen with this. I wanna point out some things we work. So you know, George, last year, that we should do some work on how to do best conditions. We can be. Now that we haven't had those conversations, but we certainly have to put resources into that. So, you know, that's an example. Something I'd like to present on. you know.

[61:09] I would love to see that. Yeah. But I'm wondering if. there's interest in doing session. Addressing some of the ideas finishes. and it seems like that will be long enough to have you know, have it as a phone question, and

[62:05] who would thank you? I don't know how to fix that So you know. I would like to. That's we need to know. you know, and for us to create

[63:07] city, please and like solution. Let's see suggesting we invite books because and just say, please things best. you know. the evenings.

[64:07] some some so and to do some foundations and then raise the prices.

[65:08] Yeah. But I wonder? I I'm curious, really feel about this similar logic in terms of Geos. Friends. we, the dairy pays no rent. and they're competing for for apples. Apples is that fair example of an organization that doesn't pay one. So we don't. We don't have a lot.

[66:00] An organization only has. They can only use the series well, just a minute. And the meeting now even free. And that is just no discussion. So and then it charges for the customer. 13. Did you also? Yeah. And so small organization has their audience, and it's really hard that. And so let me ask you this. I I'm personally hearing what you say.

[67:07] You know, since we're talking about next year. what area of our circle work? Just what I'm saying. You know that smaller organization to get larger branch? It's not our.

[68:00] So I'm just saying $600 and 8 to we did so. I'm hearing this. The way I'm registering this is making space in the agenda as we're talking about project 2025 bigger and more big organizations

[69:05] or grants. Come in talk. Yeah. we increase the budget responses. I don't know. recession with the art community enroller. Is there a way to potentially work with

[70:03] the city or the Chambers to bring together executive directors, to have an expert come in and talk about cultivation boards, understand? Working boards and advisory boards. I sit on many boards very, very basic business model. That's good. Make sense from business sense, but isn't entirely working from fundraising and sponsorship and long term cultivation. Right? So is there a way to help kind of bring them together to of them all their sales

[71:30] all in favor. Exactly.

[72:20] I don't get ready for Mexico pools in that room. So we have already, because of as possible. Focus on the government.

[73:10] Yeah. Happy. Okay. Other agencies. There it is. market agent behavioral

[74:03] grants. Thank you alright. it is And taking cognitive, and teacher follows me in the classroom so. and but but but perhaps the arts and culture office sort of

[75:02] bringing together point of having maybe having where we're able to get K through 12 arts slash other stuff instructors to come in, and our organization as well, and we can. I don't know what kind of kind of random, and then the almost like a initiative and talk if if specifically, has a an office partnerships. And

[76:01] then it's just kind of going on national. We have a partnership and see so

[77:00] and here support and like, there's question they're coming is Llanfrom. Yeah? Well. that you know, we still out to all of our artists organization

[78:14] district. Yeah, I mean the the problems I I've seen. It's this day to day is an artist has an idea to apply for granted real project brands in the school. and then so they have this great idea. But where do they go? How do you find a teacher that wants to bring that person into their room? How do you do that? So we can help with that value. What are the avenues of these, and just

[79:00] bring back to their attention and policy? Now, direction? Is that like step that I think right now.

[80:00] And I actually did another great topic for us all. I mean, yeah. I think the last round, so we might.

[81:18] So they're all sort of

[82:05] okay. Okay? So finally, these are. it's going to talk to us. Can we put that up on the screen because I'm not. Gonna oh, you got kicked out. Okay, yeah. Alright. So a reminder then. No, every meeting. Thank you very much.

[83:02] Oh, thanks to you, sir. Oh, okay, I appreciate it. Yeah, but that is a 10 to 2 decision after the member meeting. If there's another agenda, hold it, and if there's not okay, so I could direct your attention all the days running across the top. Those are what we're suggesting.

[84:07] There's a few dates that so so normally, the earth's Commission meets on the fourth Wednesday of each month that there's certain dates that Staff is suggesting. We'll get back one week primarily because of holidays. So you know. January, we have the New New Year's Day, July Fourth of July. Now these 2 I moved in accordance with what we did this year, so I move this ahead and I move this one ahead. and then based tricky because we'll have 2 commission meetings. That older Junction meeting will be on the date that Arts Commission already needs. So that's why we would probably back a day. But basically it's a domino effect. So we would bump it back to the 30, first, because the rest of our commissions are are bugging back, and we can. It's difficult to have 2 the same week. So

[85:00] the cross the dates across, or what you'll kind of be looking at and deciding if those days work for you. That's what suggesting still, 6 to 8, 30, or 6. We did add a half an hour to Google. Alright. So let's last Wednesdays that we should be aware of. And then, when these are approved, I'll put them on the website and do the meeting advice and

[86:06] no registration not for or, shall I say, anyone has an attraction not right now no

[87:26] and so, if I may. So that that's been in box lately. But we got we're just to consider.

[88:19] It's looking like there were 3 will be in March. and we'll get more information. Sorry

[89:12] successfully. Then. Roi Government spending, spending. I know some great. I don't remember which organization today. But defining of the access that 3 months

[90:14] and kind of an off season. But it is kind of on season with making sure that it's not in. So just we need a room with our needs different types. No, no. we're still focused on the something about another group. this concept of a 750 C

[91:01] performing direct center. Yeah, I mean, create all their customary outfits. And I excellent, excellent and just it, it has been ever been to one in this area. I have a tree of all places. I mean.

[92:01] so different.

[93:11] yeah, I think it's important that we go on record. And the Council is supported in terms of this. Yeah, I don't know if that's our best interest. Who went to the State House to say we have the who would say, Go over there and say, second step

[94:44] on the part of. and it's all remember city council.

[95:16] Okay? So this one. you know, we're in the and and great I would love to make sure you.

[96:19] Yeah, I think because we don't have. I don't think there's a and have that ready, and either pretty good.

[97:18] What do you want to do with your time next year? But if there's anything else your priorities to Unicorn. I remember somebody that mentioned. I don't know. We wanna revisit that.

[98:00] I can say, just like. not necessarily. Let me call you

[99:22] yeah. the Equity project and bringing them in. We have work that we can do. I wonder if I wonder, if if that could be brought in a little bit, because I think we have an opportunity to address George's thoughts from last retreat.

[100:08] Maybe after the new Commissioners. You come for public office just the one right with other comments. Of how you'd have business, because there's a lot of things you do that are not anywhere in training, and you just kind of get thrown in, and so maybe we could do something more serious about things like the best way to use robbers, rules of orders, in a conversation, in a meeting

[101:09] or or tactics for communicating with the community between meetings, and how to conduct during meetings. What's tactical, what's useful, and how we use meetings. I think there's some things there that it might be great if we all have together. And so maybe it's something that we do need great training every year for commissioners. Maybe it's something else as well. Soft skills. you know.

[102:04] Where do they stand with their cell? International chapter 8 years, and the best thing that I just loved was being on the Grants Committee. and there would be, let's say, 4 finalists or social enterprise, so that one category there'd be 5 finalists, and we would actually go each of the 5 places and spend an hour with their executive director for the facility that we sit down in the conference room and she taught. We next question. We learned so much in that hour about that organization. It was amazing that affects me to this day when I think about you know who I wanna help or when I do a profile video, or like the stuff I learn about the organization we just get so deep into it, really get what they're doing.

[103:17] And I just found that so valuable. And I don't know we can apply that here we have time. But I just wanted to to put that into the minutes. Very.

[104:03] I I'd love to continue that conversation, because I see that and trash. We have some challenges with that which are notable, but we did that like meetings and watch this every single month. So I think that there may be ways to between meetings. So Tours or something like that. I mean, it's very difficult to get together. The community doesn't really.

[105:05] I think it would be nice if you visited us, which is really difficult. Right? Is that a lot of the way that you're gonna be high functioning as to those are on the community. And so 2 things that occur to me about that is that we usually have a ticket phone where we would cover. So you know. but to in regards. But the second part is shared.

[106:07] So more history. When we started the ease on relationships, we used to be that you were required to meet with them 3 times a year, and you had to write a report and put it into the package. And that was how we said, like, you have a special relationship with the organization. But everyone needs information. And it was not functional right? You already. And so this is become more of a a solo relationship as you have with your organization. Well, it's between the

[107:04] to but I mean anything outside the box somehow. and 4 different.

[108:20] Do so

[109:14] anytime they're off. Keep track of it. But That's more than $50, and and

[110:24] but we

[111:42] so

[112:02] minimum is, if or the 2 Commissioners are in a room. For whatever reason, we're all gonna agree that we're not gonna talk any business. and then and that'll be on what make sure that you know. Yeah. 2 conditions. Okay, 2 Commissioners meeting together is if 2 commissioners meet together and talk about business, and then one of those, okay. So you know, right? So you also don't want to create an important situation where

[113:12] you know 5 view our events. And we? Yeah, we, you know. it's all about painting with all hot water. Because II mean one of the highest functioning conditions. So it's just a matter of like. It's fine. You're all humans run into each other just like. be diligent about it. Don't screw that up. So that's all. We need to be false some time. So

[114:00] discussion anything else that we need? We're gonna talk about now. Yes, and I can contribute as so appreciation. But it ends up. mobilize, and so break can be time. first of all, thank you very much for what?

[115:13] It's not easy work, and it's mostly rewarding, but not always. And it's it's hard. And I think it's interesting curiosity that city council wants to. You all have expertise in the arts and different ways and different aspects of how our you know our mandate. and so important to

[116:01] the and I'm very aware of how not only effective, but just and vision and how and working well, because so thank you for what you do. And thank you to staff

[117:00] and you don't know and press. Thank you. Because not only set this up to be really good and to work well, but you also care about us, and you can mention us some great ways to make sure that perspective. And you brought some incredible knowledge, but also some great laughs, and they just thought about working.

[118:00] so as a thank you for our.

[119:13] This is one of 4 times anywhere. Once in problems after the shooting once in Now the purpose of our meeting. whatever

[120:57] you know what happens. Pandemic. So it's temporary

[121:07] expression and invitation for people and

[122:15] and should be what you would like to the thanks for including it.

[123:05] Probably isn't. It's down. Thank you that. Yeah. II just know I'm gonna stop recording. Yes.