June 28, 2023 — Boulder Arts Commission Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:05] I'd like to bring the Arts Commission. June 20, eighth meeting to order. welcome everybody. We have some members of the public here tonight. Oh, actually. that's really public public. It's more like a working public. Well, before we get started. I just like to do this real quick the City Boulder Arts Commission acknowledges the city of Boulder. It is on the ancestral homelands, and unse the territory of indigenous peoples who have traversed within stewarded lands in the Boulder Valley since time and memorial. those indigenous nations into the Arapaho, Cheyenne, Comanche, Iowa, Sioux, and others. Our benefit from this land came at a dire cost, indigenous people, and we get thanks to them. Thank you. all right.

[1:01] The approval of the agenda. Is there a motion. anybody? The session? Not seeing any. please raise your hand. All those in favor. approval of the minutes from the main meeting. and of course I don't have any plan. There is a session where we were. I think. any other changes. I would like to entertain a motion for Google. And that's what that revision.

[2:09] Yeah, there a second. any discussion. all those in favor. Please raise your hand. We are crank and look at public participation. Do we have anybody from the public would like to see today. No one is signed up to speak. Alright, thank you. Matters from guests who would like to introduce our yes, so I'd be happy to So tonight we have farm to spaceship. We have Brian Corgan and Linda client. Thank you. They are here to present the process for which some of the farms of spaceship slash experiments and public art projects. we're selected and hopefully move forward. it's really kind of an update, and if you have questions about any of the projects or process, feel free.

[3:02] And I'll head over them, and then I think when they're done, I can. I'll it wouldn't be a part of the spaceship I guess happening if we didn't play well again. Very simple. And this is An editing, a little short of example of what? So so what we're going to do is we're gonna okay. And then you're going to say, for what else could this be? So it's very simple. It's going to pass around. And then the

[4:03] just one user. something called. okay. yeah. the world most inefficient. The challenges. We're going to put 30 s on the clock, and let's see how many times we can get it now.

[5:12] Yeah, no one will. They'll put me up to rules on this game. They're all okay, you can. How many times around 30 s? to pay a battery.

[6:26] maybe let's let it have go ahead. Okay, third time this time, no matter what the person says, everyone in the room response, yes, that is a what? Okay, yes, that is a line. All right. Ready.

[7:27] It's a So this is a little sampling. you guys, maybe you can imagine why, why, why do we play that with anything?

[8:09] But it changes like when you're working on a piece of okay. yeah. So there's a little example But one of the tiny little phones as my, everything is fun. But also we like that activities here, because when you think about what else it can be for me like an artist. Right? What else in this thing? And you're also thinking like an entrepreneur, right? Like what else excel to us? That's really kind of the commonality between early. That's why we do that. Okay, so now we're going to show you to remind you who we are. A little video.

[9:09] Yes. excellent. Yeah, oh, sure. So all my sound is on, is it on? On your end? It should be. Do you like adventure? How about fun us to Hi, we're farmer spaceship. We're a network of artists, entrepreneurs, researchers, foodies, designers, farmers, scientists, executives, and community leaders working to make our businesses, workplaces and neighborhoods, more fun. How through our adventure school, an immersive education program, teaching everything from experience, design to community engagement, all the tools you need to make any adventure super fun.

[10:00] So join us. You belong here. So this is really kind of the goal of the spaceship is together. We're fixing in social isolation, in commanding qualities, worker, burnout, civic polarization, community disinvestment, and the most important one on here. For in the days and night, right? We want to make everything more fun. And we're also growing inclusive. Wealth building community wellness, civic engagement, neighborhood vibrancy, peer to peer to support. And so Wendy. Why is she say a little bit about what we've been on here. Okay, well, this this has been a process we've been so far with up here. And it was. It starts with a cohort of artists, and one of the kind of the main thrust of the program is to teach artists that they are entrepreneurs.

[11:08] and and they're all generating value in a different way. Right? So that that's kind of the course of what we do. And and through a here specifically with the we were asked to experiment with. So that's where we brought the Co. Work together, and we have gone through part of the process. We had that intense. We take together the, I guess, for prototype experience, it would be in their expression, or, you know, with their process or in their small business. Yeah. Then you gave the money for that to create what I've learned like, what? What did engage the public? What's it?

[12:04] And we ask them. So if we get more, we get a slightly bigger part of what we, the next step will be the next of learning. And that's about the we're in the process of yes and I think, even with the paper plate, I love that as a game, and it just shows like, Hey, what you already have that you will use right like, what are your in the assets? What are your assets? And then how do you use that to something super fun and a really low cost way, because if it's fun, it's fun. So before you invest all this money right into, maybe it's not being so much fun, right, you can go ahead and kind of test it in a small little ways. So we started off the program with the 2 day workshop, and we're going to show you what that looks like. Right here. Wow. I,

[13:24] yeah, you're still not done. So we want to just kind of talk about really these like 3 keywords, their experiments, public and art. And you know, through the process of being together and the cohort the public piece, I think, with maybe. where there was the most friction. for the artists in the global war to really kind of, think about, how does their work kind of translate from maybe inside of a gallery outside of the gallery, and really kind of thinking about that idea of like, how do you engage people in co-creation? and then also, how do you really kind of build a community around the consumption of the experience as well?

[14:14] But I would I would. I would add to that to the fact that friction. What we mean at 9 months in this we saw the most transformation in that. and asking them to create was a real. I don't want to end up, and it's been fun to watch them understand the value of that. And then I think the it was the experimental part to it was a challenge for some. It's like something to step out of your part right now, and we asked them to experiment with this public. What, exactly is. And part of that experiment, too, is like bringing in the Covid response. it's like it's a bit of all the different ways that we can

[15:07] to address it, to feel it, you know. Talk about it. That was part of the experience. and then to the art part it was a was was interesting because we got it all over the place. So I think that was it was really a fun. So it was kind of 3 bill or 4 full experience. We had experiments and experience based public arts. So we got, you know, 2. And it was, it was really a great way to talk about. And I think one of the things to going back to. Why experiences so a pre covid data point when that's 74% of Americans super experiences over things and stuff. So when we think about really again, this like, how do we build well, building opportunities for artists. It's like, How do we really kind of have artists back into the experience economy, right? As a a revenue stream for their practice?

[16:11] and to really again, kind of think about. Then also that opportunity, because experience design is where you can build the connections between. Again, people who are different from each other right? And so, through really good experience design, you can have a person that may think they're over here meet a person who may think they're over there. And to you guys experience design, they find out that they actually have common allies. So that's why we've paid experiences. So with that with you don't have to go work. Okay? Evan, Evan owns the and his plan is to performance space plant parenthood. A humorous thought, provoking interactive experience around plant care.

[17:02] And this is actually performative. It will be a pop up that they pop up a lot of this And so it's like a placeholder festival. it's got some other ideas that outdoor places where this can pop up it just existing in the public realm. It's a work comedy on honestly right. And it makes you think. And this point is around, bringing plans to your life intentionally, and the adoption process he actually is like thinking about how he actually adopted the plan. And really making it making a comment on our relationship with the national world and on an on a little aside. Yeah. And what one thing I want to say about this one, too, is just the power of Evan as a long business owner, and then partnering with an artist, and really kind of the transformation that has happened there to understand really like, what is that intersection of small business plus parts.

[18:17] So the next one is pages of butter art. And so she is working on the playwright, which is an interactive sculpture designed for the a user to expose the bird, and otherwise in images from a selection of colorful options in order to build and share a unique narrative. the project will have an online sharing of clients so essentially she's going to work with the placeholder festival on this one as well. And they're going to work together on really kind of thinking of what each one of the pieces in the sculpture looks like. So the content is a way for people to kind of envision. Maybe what the future of the girlfriend call could look like in another like 5 or 10 years

[19:29] scale and what I love about change was her transformation from art to to She. She understood that this process, that the the images that she details are the ones she chose to realize if she co-creates this with participation of community. And those images are things that are meetings about that really what she comes up with in the storytelling, as it's recorded, is of value to say, a business or a community, because people are should be their own stories. They're telling you that we collect that data that actually own value. So I think that was until October.

[20:07] And I think, like just what we think about all the surveys we take, and you know they're not as fun. But this right here. Now, this, this totally kicks survey. This thing is up there, and people can just go and switch the shape. So it's it's a big, it's like a story phone. So essentially as you kind of pick and turn different dials, you're 15 different ways to tell the story of what what the sculpture is and what it says. so there's little QR. Codes underneath each one of the things that you can scan it and then it onto you. I believe the link to the picture, and then you share it. Okay. okay. Heather

[21:01] heather is. This is really introduced. Fiber arts, teaching situation, story network connecting, connecting local people, suffering adverse effects of the pandemic illustrators, designers, artists create visual images of their experience. This is really interesting because it is so co-created. The experiences are gathered from underrepresented communities. They are by our artists. Take those experience and create a visual narrative of these experiences, and then the stitches take that and actually stitch it and it becomes visual art that when we shared some dates there that would be a shared. So it really goes across from the storyteller to the artificial, to the hands on craft kind of stitch that puts the you know, one together and one experiment within this 2 is kind of thinking about under resource communities that don't have the time to participate and really kind of thinking about, how can you pay for their participation? Because again, the time is very valuable, and they need to be doing other things right. And so, if we can really space for them to be able to participate. How do we then engage

[22:14] so, Rob? Rob owns Oh, my God! So he is working on an artist in residence program that, essentially is going to work with music first and happy at dagger to explore how art can still out of the store front and into the community. So he has been doing. you know, having artists come in and do performances inside of his face and all of that. But we've been kind of pushing him to think about, how does it not just activate the inside of this space, but also still out onto the street and really kind of think about that as an invitation to come into this store. It's just real transformation, was the the artist in residence.

[23:00] He was, yes, struggling with some ideas, and it's inviting an artist to come in and interpret this situation, for now it's like such an eye-opener. That was kind of that sort of a business person to start our up. We were discovering how to okay. And Corey's doing it. This AR. It's an interactive story of Boulder's historic Black community toll through a contemporary augmented reality, mobile application. He's got great partners on this to talk with his store boulder museum of boulder. They're all super excited. And it's basically something you could use on your device. And you you walk around and different points of history would be highlighted in a are on your device. and the using of boulder is really loving this, and there can they have an opening? That's my word with their. But it'll start being a Okay? So she's doing a project that essentially is to be the connecting community through interactive

[24:04] and that activation offers an intergenerational part of experience through letter writing, culminating in a public display. So she's been doing a lot of again, just like pencil type of stuff. But we've been kind of thinking about, how does that, then become a really a display in terms of public ours? And so she's working on kind of thinking about how to you project all of the pencil letters that she's received. And do you like a gorilla kind of projection on ability one night, and then think about how that becomes an invitation to come in and actually sign up and have your own account. and also speaking of under and kind of community. A lot of the people who are volunteering at worktails here, living have different sort of like dementia or something in other ways eventually, and she a clean that. And it's been this really interesting experience for her to put him in it when they're pinpoint project with the young people

[25:12] and the experience of writing the letters for the people who are experiencing the match up. It's been a way for them to kind of tap back into a place where they feel comfortable. And they, yeah. okay, Nicole, pressing play a mobile community space that empowers people to create a tangible for themselves and others. This is so simple. This is a card where you are asked to create a little bit of kindness for yourself and a kind for someone else, and in her prototype just a very small. It was really just kind of a crap. She was taken into this choice in the public, and the simplest instructions. Make something kind for yourself, and makes me point to someone else. And the response that she got, if you were so interested in mailing, and they're making all kinds of things. And they were touched by one of our stories. So she really her prototype. really.

[26:16] Eric, so Eric is working to do a music festival kind of a one day music festival that really is kind of a prototype to an accelerator for musicians here in Boulder he's really kind of expressed that it's hard to be a musician in bolder and to be able to kind of grow. And so he's really seeing that gap is an opportunity for him to really kind of. Think about how he can fill that and especially for really kind of, you know, 5 plot where musicians that maybe don't have this opportunities or the spaces that some other musicians have on on his way to the big that

[27:04] we're. It's It's right. It's you, too. Yeah. yeah, he was part of that. Yeah, the B is right. Next to the okay. Kelly, Kelly is earlier. Wcom, a large scale labyrinth, which is an architectural architecture of pros. It was participants undertake a secret block in the nature of their story. This project has seen a lot of different. It's working on this, a lot of the ways. And it's basically you, you walk through a labyrinth that there's there's a word story. And I think the biggest transformation for Kelly has been the co-creation

[28:00] really having to understand and get excited about, how can this? How can this be? Co-? And it's been exciting to see her what to watch that it bloom, and she's got some really good partners as well so, and no dates on this one yet. but it's a it's coming. She's also working on materials. She's, you know, she has a big idea. And it's yeah. And one of the other kind of fun. Things, too. Is that one of our partners? They are really for they're they're really great at typography. So kind of been asking probably the question around, what does community generated community driven, you know, community create co-created typography look like as a a platform in and of itself to share stories. So I think when you start to get into kind of the experimental kind of type based world, I think there's some really kind of fine possibilities that she has great partners to help pull that off. So.

[29:08] Oh, and Jennifer Jennifer, I've got the chocolate piece in folder community chocolate events. this is. It's it's not hard to explain. Excuse me, Chunk. Art, that it's participatory. and she is looking. She's got great partners. She's going to be down in the in the community. Our day on September 20 fourth, and I think what she's discovering is now. The community can be involved in all parts of it, because she's talking about having a chalk making the part of it, and so bring the co-creation of the actual art material into it. How the how the the key sort is made, that's all done by the public. And then this this new idea! It hasn't come quite well. The whole circle is to what it? What does it look like if also, the committee could participate in power? So she's looking at all ends of it, yeah, and that she's experienced. And and speaking of power washing when it gets into the permission of chalk.

[30:10] you know. And this really again, I think artists, understanding policy decisions. And then how the policy decisions really impact their work of what they can and can't do. this is one of them of just, you know, kind of. There's very strict restrictions around chunk and talk art. So it's been really kind of fine to see her understand, maybe, how she could be a catalyst for maybe kind of showing the possibilities of what chart is versus what I did. Stephanie shine on. That's my good. Okay, yeah. So Stephanie, Stephanie is working on doing a mobile farmers market and creative adventure that essentially makes is food justice with aren't making and really kind of thinking about

[31:01] so often. Again, we ask people to come to us. But how do we go to them? And how does this really kind of mobile food card slash art experience go into neighborhoods that needed the most and really kind of, I think, with this particular project? Is it? building a relationship with those community notes to understand? Really like, how do you even be invited into a community? And that's where kind of, like the public piece of the public art comes in. And really her transformation. Yeah. And the the art part is to keep it like, how do you make a food. it's not great. So that's that's our cohort. That's where we're at The next the next phases are all coming.

[32:01] and We do have actually 2 more projects that we're going to present in next month. so we have. So yeah, we're gonna keep you guys in suspect and we also have one more activity to do, because, all good. Well, first off and experience design people remember the last thing first and the first thing second. So when you think about good experience, design, what you end with is really important. The way you begin with the second important. So we're going to do something really fun again. It's your fancy. Okay, any kind of. So there you go. all right. So it's going to take a quick moment to imagine the most true and beautiful public art feature.

[33:01] the most true and beautiful public. They get a real scene that you can see. It was true, beautiful. Now thing. Gosh! What's what? 11? What's in the way? It's the opposite. Let's see, we'll get a name. What is it? Also to see it shape all right, that obstacles in your head. You're going to drop that obstacle into your mouth. The obstacle is down your, and it's at least 10 inches. Here we go pitch it. hold it! There you go. An obstacle has been released. And now in one big collective balloon part.

[34:00] So that's the update on experience of public arts. all the I don't know. I question. Well, we certainly haven't been our news weather, but I imagine we'll Yeah. I think the bar works like, yeah, they're all downtown boulder district events or city event events. Yeah. And yeah, you're welcome to come to any of those. Check them out. And next month we'll have to. They're still sort of in process. any other questions or anything. It's we're about at a time for the second of the meeting. But are there any questions? Real? Quick? No. Yes. Okay, which? This is not a quick question. So, yeah, and thank you very much. this was

[35:05] an unusual project. It was a bit of a risk for these good people to approve it, and and so kudos to you for really running with it, and to the One thing that we're really aware of is outcomes on public art. which is tricky as the best services. But we have some layered out comes fine with this project, right? Not only how these artists and business owners are interacting with that unity and the revol out there, but also like what they're hearing with them as they develop this after the projects are done and the other people get involved in their partners like, there's, there's all these different directions and go. Do you have any advice for us about how to capture some of that information and understand the impact? That's yeah. well, one thing that I think is interesting is that we've been talking with a boulder company called the Merchant that actually is able to really kind of measure how people are engaging with an experience, and whether or not they give a shit about it in their words. And I think that that's a pretty interesting

[36:16] kind of player. Because when you think about again this, like the impact of what we all know our can do right being able to kind of measure the heart essentially is what they do. Because when you measure the heart, you're measuring the brain. So when they do that. You're able to then actually see, like how people are feeling in the moment with those experiences, and one of the things that they measure as long as with giving a shit is what they call psychological safety, which I would also just call trunks. And it's interesting, because when you look at really kind of what makes businesses successful psychological safety. And a team right? Especially when you're working in really creative fields that you have to have that trust with people. So

[37:06] when you are able to have those high levels of psychological safety which is kind of what we're doing with these experiences is like, how do we use these experiences as a way to build trust? Then you kind of think about, well, how do we make our workplaces better? How do we make our neighborhoods better? How do we make our better? And so I think that's kind of an interesting way to really kind of think about beyond the usual suspects. Right of like, how you measure this stuff. Sure, you can go ahead and kind of like. ask how many people were engaged, and maybe how much money did they make from you know the sales of their for sale experience, or whatever. But I think getting down into just was important the loud and the trust, and all the things that keep our community together. I think that is really. thank you so much.

[38:01] That's always the hardest question right next to them on the agenda. All right. Let's see. Lauren, you wanna talk to us, though. everybody back to work. Yeah. So please feel free to get up, and it's more so we're going to start with A review of our reports. Oh. so

[39:00] the thing that Bruce brought up is that he should so from voting on the will be kind of for part one, and then part 2. Is that anybody has any that you want to discuss? I do have a both language that I can update to. So yeah, why don't we do my first Do you want me to stay in the room or leave so technically, you should. If you run the this one, the vote for this one, and then I'll come back in.

[40:07] So for that, for a reminder for everybody we're just going to be talking about Do you have the option to approve the report to approve it. with specific questions. There's a lot of any answers to any questions or not. So then we someone else to it. cool promotion, or actually I I I apologize. We don't have a port. to be sure we come back. Oh, and Maria Korea is.

[41:02] I don't think about that question for you. I think that we correct. I second all in favor. Oh, really. Okay. So then also. I'll save her all very much. Okay.

[42:07] 1 min. Okay. hey? Hey? Correct. let's see. So the next one is up on the screen. take any out of that. Or would you like to vote on all those together. What are you thinking? How do you work out any other ones that need speaking? Okay. so with somebody. typically, we would do the discussion after the motion is raised. But I'm fine that people want to talk about it before. If somebody wants to make a motion to go for oh, Maria! Nope, go ahead! Did you want to read it? No! Oh, Is it me? Or sure sure! Oh, I move that we approve the Grant reports from the Colorado Shakespeare Festival. Frequent Flyer Productions Museum, a Boulder, or Lano Music School of Musical Arts.

[43:10] Rocky Ridge Music Center, and T. 2 dance company 1 s. There I have a few comments. you know I I found several of them very thoughtful and I really appreciated the the like. for instance, Rocky Ridge, the reflection on both what they had gone through with the extensions and the Covid and some of their larger, broader takeaways about collaboration and flexibility. And so I really appreciated their report. There was. There was others, too, that were thoughtful. But I just think that level of depth of thinking back on the grant. And the program, I think, is helpful to them. And I think it's also helpful to us.

[44:03] Yeah, I'll just. I'll say it in a different way. but the same thing basically is, you know, it's so. There's a lot of consideration that goes into approving the brands. And when we go and stuff, and it's so, I don't know. Refreshing is the right work work. But it's just a wonderful experience. And I really enjoy this part where we get to see what people did and like the reality of it all who got to go to the thing and looking at the pictures of people enjoying the the performances. it's just a what I really enjoyed this part. All right. any other discussion. Okay, I'll call for the vote, all those in favor. And yeah, great any. I think that was unanimous. Thank you. Everybody.

[45:04] Okay. yeah. So there's remember, she had a lot of so really, really. or maybe suggest that she gets I I saw in the report that there was reference to a that that was sort of that was still part of what was up. and then there was reference to. so

[46:03] that good pieces that it seemed like there were. okay. yeah. yeah. I mean, it was quite obvious that it's not even close to being done. Yeah, I really don't think we've got a video that was earlier in the process. Just to give us some examples of interviews. My guess. But again.

[47:12] so we're we're gonna all look at you now. where are we on terms of the bigger picture that we've given her this much? We over this much, and we're do. What? What was she supposed to end up that, you know. I quote unquote giving us finish. Edited Master Bill. So

[48:00] sure for So I think. what is happening. she's initially okay. So it is still there for her. but it is the they want to ask for the question. have a sense of what I'll be with the finding finish for the project. So what did she? What? As part of this grant? Again for a little contract? What? What are we all about? What is, what did she commit to deliver? Is it a work in progress.

[49:01] or is it a finished edited? Sure that I? Okay, yeah, you know, and maybe we can go through other stuff while you're looking at that, because I think it's a pretty straightforward question, I mean in a Grant application. If you would write, I'm gonna the final product will be a work in progress, or the final product will be something that I'm going to enter into film customers. That's a and there was than what we saw. I I'm willing to be a little flexible on that, because some, you know, for for a film maker. I think it's a little bit above like amateur. It's kind of up there, so I would, I guess I expect more. But if that was the request to get a grant to do something, a work in progress, to show to the community to get feedback. Then that's what we committed to to paying for.

[50:04] And then I saw like just to kind of a little bit of devil's as to what we expect. If it is a finished project. what that looks like. I saw somewhere from there to be the the expectation of her. I wasn't sure what she gave us was. what's in that. But if I can give some. Yeah. And then I I think I somewhat speak for my fellow commissioners. When I say we're we're flexible. We're nothing about flexible. But let's go back to the original language and see what the artists committed to, and then work backwards from that.

[51:11] That's all with the more And then in the evaluation section, it also mentions like, out on the evaluation of the application. It's slightly older. So as for this, as you notice, for great valuation. The project will be mentioned, the audience attendance at various publications by 10, that over So there is some assumption that it will be screen. it does not have

[52:03] She didn't mention fine for The. There's like these different civic to that. okay, bye. that. Now. if that is possible they'll display. The person that it's working with is still there. but it does so that that language to me means a finished documentary. would you agree with that statement from the staff perspective? Do you see anywhere in there that she's alluding to a work in progress and on finished documentary something that's not done.

[53:06] Video project. Yeah, I'm trying to give the benefit of that before we take the next steps here. Is there anything that leads us to believe that. Well, I mean I could say somebody that it's ever going to be done, and it's all sorts of things. So I I'm just very concerned that we doing this, we almost are enabling, and doesn't set, a very good precedent for the Arts Commission, and how we deal with these post moments all about everybody

[54:04] year ago, 2 years ago. It's all over so. And that was hopeful. That was the 4. So so you know, we can just kind of talk, we go ahead. So this is almost kind of like her asking for another extension. Is that how we should be looking at this. that she's same. Yeah. yeah.

[55:06] Well, I mean. is that what we want to do? Or are we to assume that this is the finish that it's going to get for the foreseeable future. Yeah, I just. I was. yeah, okay. And and we could, you know, ask it within the context of reference that. yeah. that we just believe that there is something else out there.

[56:02] Yeah. what is the not just to get the money? But yeah. yeah. And and I am. So I'm trying to come at it from that perspective as well as trying to be open minded. You know, people have typical. Okay. let's see, like one of the top and still making instructors at the it doesn't really matter. What really matters is this is the final report. She does not include the 30 min document. but the question is. Thank you. Okay. So now that's great. And I think we need some substance behind that. So if you know that fork on the road. If if it's not, then what are we going to do? If it is, then what are we going to do?

[57:08] But then we has to wait for another the next meeting. I'd almost rather give Staff the tools they need to just deal with it rather than having it come back here. That's my opinion. Okay. we might. But we not. I mean, we say, there's. there's a solution for problem A, there's a solution for problem need. And she's is her answer, and it's actually so, instead of making some some. I I hear what you're saying, I guess my proposal would be Is this the finished documentary? If she says yes.

[58:01] we'll come back to that. If she says no. then we're sorry we can't grant another extension. Thank you for filing your final report. The project isn't done, so unfortunately, we won't be able to send you the final payment. So then the question is, if this is the final product. obviously a an unfinished piece. do we? As she fulfilled her agreement. even though we know. But you know cool already that aesthetics is a whole. Another part of it right? So it was to say, when it's done. She could be editing. Anybody could be editing for another 10 years. I've seen many documentaries take that long to be edited. It's nothing new. it's just a matter of, you know. as a funding resource. What are our what are our requirements?

[59:09] Oh. the way there has. I'm not remembering specifically it was a key project over high school that they weren't able to something like that right now. Yeah. it was a matter of the penalty. Right? It wasn't. If you don't make it 20% for telling us you did something and you didn't do it. It was, they acknowledged you didn't do this. That's cool to say there's that. Well, let me let me ask that in a different way. The staff have a recommendation. I think the I agree with what I was like, and then thought on all of this, and where you like, shout out, if you have any

[60:09] But there has been cases, I think, even recently, where you said, this is your last time. This is the new deadline, like you're setting a deadline for when it's finished, and if she, if I'm able to do so, then sort of makes your own decision, and if not, then she doesn't make you know if we can make the the the documentary great. but I also understand what you're saying about. and that's fun to complete work. But this is like very, very causes me. What do you call it? Like? Circumstances are very, very straight to those one, but very challenging.

[61:06] Yeah, so that's all right. But I in the report I didn't see anything about like I would like where where they think they're at it like what they do there. that because. like. it's obviously languishing. and some sort of we have to say, we have a year. And that's the final extension.

[62:07] So yeah, as a as my. And yeah, quite familiar with the world of filmmaking. So I I know a lot of these nuances. But there's a lot of variables of that. May I? A up there. There's an introduction in details about topic and some but back So, putting that side on. I'll respond to you inquiry as quick as it is to be the maximum number of that commission for us to feel it's sensitive to challenges with filmmaker and his clients for the extension. If this is the final one. I hope that let me follow you first one for a while, and for me supported the extension with the addition of the language final, the pertinent motion plan.

[63:09] All right. I I don't think it's I. All right. Yeah. I mean, I just feel if we don't follow through on what we committed. Then it makes us look like we're not handling. It's our chart. our F, who shared responsibility. Unfortunately for the what I felt. Yeah, I will share this.

[64:04] yes. So would you like to write a little motion? That? Yeah. I don't know what like policy setting. We want to put something that like we will be told on a if we decided the last one people here. Yeah. may I suggest to finish up this motion? And then as well.

[65:04] Is that all it needs to say to make that motion a move that we defined in the here a second. Thank you. Any discussion before we vote. I'll just add that. Yes. I think we're all voting on this. It's all. I think all of us would love to see that finished documentary. Someday. Yeah, I mean I I was. I was all set to watch it. I did play, and then I'm watching, and it's all these jump cuts like there was no editing, and so on

[66:10] about it. You? So I was really excited. alright. So any other discussion? Yeah. Just one question. So once we decline. If she says, I like to resubmit next month, what? What? What, what's the response? Or is it done? I mean, I'm I'm hearing in the room. It sort of it's it's done. Yeah. The option that she has process, which is the process that but essentially she. yeah. that. But

[67:05] there's no like process. We're going to submit another report to request additional. But I think it there has not been a but I saw that before. We both ask that the staff feel that the Commission. as done everything we could to facilitate the making of this documentary and encouraging the harness to finish their work. So so so, Bruce. My suggestion, then, to the group, then, is that we modify the motion language to put some of that feedback in there.

[68:05] Yeah. So if it is appealed. It actually has some the reason why it was declined. I I I like that. I just. I think that that's what Lauren was intimating when she said, she's gonna give her the link to this video to hear what everybody was saying. Carolyn. on how to. I'm hedging against that just out of respect for the what is that once and another public one? There you go. I feel like I I tend to

[69:00] any other discussion. So well, I do want to hear that 11. So How about? I feel like you have done as much as you can. Oh. the number of extension! Oh. and you have a really good discussion about what this all means. And so there, there are a great number of reasons, as you know.

[70:01] and and that's, you know, not to be board. But the fact of the matter is that made a motion. It said, it's the final. It would not be very wise to lightly. Oh. so I I agree. Well, I and that we set up a process during the good, because we have many, many extensions. This is actually very rare to have. It's like we're an extension that we're never The the process is their second extension. Again, the first, if it's appropriate, and then the second. If it is the programme, we connect them with the Commissioner, the third one they we can commission to request the extension and the forward one she also came to.

[71:03] So I think what you're trying to get at 8 was as she had about the contact. Also, if she didn't need other resources or contacts or something. And so there's been now a few times that you know what connected her with the Commissioners, or she's been that, you know, like speaking with the measures that if there was something to like help along that process that she's been in contact, and that was 2020 20, right? So hopefully, we made it through like you can help you. However, that is possible, right? But it's like you have these sessions in this. So okay, well, thank you, Lauren, and that I just I I wanted to be absolutely sure that we can all feel good, that we did our due diligence, because this is not something denying. This isn't something any of us take lightly. So thank you for taking the time to talk it all through. We're about to go on something that you know. It's a very real thing. So it it it gives me some comfort. Hearing the minutes from a year ago, and you know that's

[72:14] that's it. Right there. all right. Any other discussion before the vote. But then you said you brought it up and then but I also think it then makes it easy more clear. and then and Maria correct me if I'm misinterpreting your attack. But this modification need not be all the reasons why

[73:09] planning necessarily it could be as simple as because we made this commitment to May at home to. Yeah, just just trying to tie it back to the core of why we're rejecting this. Yeah, now, that's great. Let's get more in a minute. So right something. And then is the second part, Lauren. that we do. We need to. and the and the work is still not complete. Do we need to have a comment comma, or

[74:00] I don't know. because the terms of the motion in May of 2,020 we're not at. How does that look for you. That's great. Yeah. Any other discussion? That's a good question. It is a good question. And yeah. but it wasn't a 30 min.

[75:00] Yeah. I don't. So you still have that up the minute? Yeah. what are the terms being used? Is it, do you see? Like terms like work in progress, or uncompleted, or anything other than finish documentary. Well, this may be in the report. and not so. So let me take you so fine cool that 30 min work in progress.

[76:10] I'm just trying to do. I think we're all trying to get well this out. That would be cause for you to consider a appeal. So you, you know, not not to say that you couldn't like take some action right now that way. It reflects that, and that's all fine. But if you do go through this. If she comes back and says you missed something. Okay to get that motion back on that. Okay? Oh, and there's

[77:00] that that that would be okay. Okay. I want to be sure. We're that meeting everyone that comes in. Okay, we have a motion on the table. Any other discussion before we go right. I actually think the motions change. So you I make a motion that we abandoned fire motion and replace it with this language that we declined. Is there a second? Thank you. Any other discussion. not seeing any. All those in favor like the motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Everybody return to the question that you have. I don't know, like a certain number of extensions.

[78:03] but something. although I think we also okay. So what? What? How does the language read now? Does it say anything about X. Number of it just says in a second, you'll be connecting with the Commission by the another request. This was just so, you know, when we ask commission, you decided, it is someone sounds fine. They are they

[79:12] 99%. Yeah, I tend to agree with. what George is said in terms of not having an exact number. I want some flexibility like not saying it's only this number, and that's it. And we're always obligated to that number. I I like the case by case. okay. what else do you have? First line? Nothing fine. I'm sorry. actually go first. Thank you all so much for your So I have 2 more slides that you can see one is the

[80:00] so you will have the option to through the set recommendations that I may explore in grants to prove individual rants, or to those from a Google individual. Grant something we answers to any specific questions, and next I will show you the this for ranking. this is after your 2 scores, and there's. you know, side that all? And then the project of France. Sorry. And actually so.

[81:05] because I actually wrote that. So yeah, not for me. But but in this case. okay. but it's not. Oh, sorry. let's see. Well, first off. does anybody feel the need to separate any of these out? Anybody? with anybody like to make a motion in the discussion. Once there's a motion on the table that's one with wonderful learning. No people

[82:04] that are. I'm in that. The over high school, Manhattan Middle School local theatre of Colorado, Shakespeare plus call the cultural caravan. You know, cultural art, science, and culture. The awarded education grants. Thank you. Is there a second. really? any discussion? I'm excited to see you? Yeah.

[83:01] so hard. They were all really good. Yes. hey? Anybody else. hey? I'll call for the votes. All those in favor. Please raise your hand. Thank you, everybody. we're just on check it out. Oh, there. that's on me. But yeah, I know. So, Lauren, what else you got there additional. I remember that the end of last year And the our Commission recommended that if they, we're able to get them again this year because it doesn't.

[84:04] If they were given to the program again, that 30,000. So I'm reading this back to you. This is the scores for me. from earlier this year. so with 30,000, you can fund the next 3 scores which are all side. This is like real, lucky backs. They're inside the dairy art center. Are you supposed to collective? And the hills remaining since the funds. Actually. So it was 36,000. The remaining 6, 7 has been dedicated, and it's going out to the venue and affordability funds. Those are already.

[85:00] But so for this I have motion link, which and really this is I guess the only update is that it's looking to all of them all of their applications with the programs happening after today, because you can't fund something attractively. they're also parking and excited. Actually, when I spoke to one of them. She didn't know I haven't hung up, but she went. Huh! So I have motion language. There's anything else for session. Let's get the motion language. Oh, and then, like Caroline, did you have a a question? Okay, great. Thank you. let's see. So again, let's get emotional that we can have discussion. anybody at all. I'm in the

[86:02] so there! A second there any discussion? It's very best. Oh, yes. but one of them is, only it's less. So what? Yeah. yeah. So oh. they requested when they through their application. That's how much they requested. Right? Well, we have 30,000. Well, the Commissioner. I I thought it was going to be.

[87:04] And they wrote to us and said that this is great. grants. Yeah, we do that. The the the technical answer to your question is, yes, however, Staff's recommendation in these cases. It's always to not go, not to go there to not fun partially. that there's a couple of reasons why, but the core of it is that we haven't had this consistent thing since 2,016 in our funding around fully asking for what we need, and this being fully funded. there's all sorts of implications of not doing that by partial funding. Sometimes it creates by the gaps. things don't be completed in the way that they're submitted in an application that those changes can be brought back here and become complicated issues. And so it's a principal stance has nothing to do with local theatre. What they were doing was in their application. But we always take it as much to say. You prefer that not to partial function.

[88:11] Got it so in in. He's a the Caroline discussed as part of this proposal for local Theatre company is that they? You could change the motion language, say, and $4,000 to global theater company, right? And then we wouldn't drop a contract to that. If you don't, the $4,000 would go for that unless you assign it to something else right now. that's also possible. What else I mean, it would still be in the sort of made a commitment, and this would fully honor that commitment. And so I don't know what a process would be like after that, I would say. Most likely it would just remain on stand at the end of the year. Go back

[89:12] that question, too. This wouldn't be a partial funding. But could you potentially give the 4,000 to the hill and up there? I'm not that one to go with that. I like your the way you're thinking. But that's just that. Personally. Yeah. I I didn't like it when I first alright. So we have a motion on the table with the second.

[90:01] any other discussion before we come? Oh. yeah. it's any impact. They are. Okay is cool. All right. Once again. I'm gonna call for the vote all those in favor. Please raise your hand.

[91:04] You all very, very much. And then the last piece from the is the second step of the leadership Pipeline Fund. So the background section here is what we discussed last time. And it was in was brought up to you previously. The clarification side of this are based is based on what this is, gonna the last meeting and these 2 points and these questions and integrated into the application. So it's it's the for it's intended for our leaders, really in their career. And then also these questions, then, will be questions that are responding to you 5 applicants. And so when you get their one page, application with the resume and what they're

[92:06] they all have. and and to be clear if they don't address them in their in their essays, whatever that we can ask them during the live interviews. I'm curious where this came from. This this idea here for a lot of people writing in. He's actually from discussions those questions about location in the. So this the idea was to both make that more broad reach, more people and more opportunities, different ways. I don't want. But then there is also the discussion of the impact of of

[93:06] and bringing those 2 concepts together. so that because the the path for people to directly work in the arts and people from understood communities to see a barrier free pathway in the shipping yards, like those 2 things aligned with so discussion last time about, we transfer a while to see if both your support and have to be so. No, it wasn't a and so is this taking the place of that? It was 6,000, and then we had 2,000 separately saved that we had for the we always hope to build a fellowship

[94:06] but it the previous was for 6,000 for the Cu Arts administration, but the 6,000 only cover there the cost of the certificate. So it didn't help for anything else. but yeah, I know is this, is this specifically limited to see you. Now, yeah, that's for us, to be sure. whenever this is published. the high school that are. I think you awesome. Do you have a what do you need for that? I do have language on it because the budget of the funds for it specifically, and then endorse our proposal for the press.

[95:08] Sorry? Yeah. So if somebody wants to make a motion, if they get a second, then we can. We have some discussion about it. Take a look. I will schedule application and decision making process. Yeah, is there a second. really any discussion? We don't have to discuss it. But I always want to make it time for people to say what they want to be. but I'm right there. but I'm willing to try. I trust, Staff, so let's give it a go.

[96:02] Yes, before we go that anybody. all those in favor. Please raise your hand. The vote is unanimous. Thank you. Everybody. Yeah. yeah, I I think it's really noted the staff that commissioners we've got some concerns about this program in general. So yeah, we're hoping it works amazing. And it's like a new success. Obviously. let's see. All right. So thank you, Lauren, and thank you back to the top section all of the points there. But thank you for helping us get through all that.

[97:03] Appreciate that. So yeah. Brendan, you want to walk us through Belmont Rain Guard. I would love to. If you could be really conscious of time. public or in action items today, sort of run through the process, and finalists are from work with the our budget here is 18,000 $750,000. the process to date on June eighth, 2,022, there was an orientation meeting where we just that we're Mandy. And this wall of the packet. Right? This is all the packet. Okay? So yeah, I prefer you didn't go through it. Okay, that we've already read. Just here's the of time. Here's the process with dates or the the process for the selection of the artist. here's our selection panel through, served on this panel. We have a technical review committee.

[98:02] I think you all know our review criteria for all of our projects. This was the first proposal from A, that Coleman rainmaker. Couple of images. We have the feedback from the selection panel. some positives, and also some negatives. and then our next proposal. untitled from Shawn Yarbro. other image of the artwork. 2 different proposals we're presented. and here are some of the feedback from the selection panel. Again, some positives, and also. and lastly, the artwork that was selected, the artist that was selected Gregory Field, from Lafayette, Colorado. This piece is called Water Trail. it's sort of an illustration of the the water systems that are at play here. The rain garden. He again proposed to

[99:04] versions of this artwork. So we're still working through some of the design and placement issues. But again, here's some more feedback from the panel. and finally the selection panel remic recommendation. It was a 4 to one vote for Gregory Field. My, a camera was on our panel could not attend, but concurred via email with the majority vote and some of the some of the recommendations were to work with city staff and engineering community to locate the best site for the art and sort of the illustration of water catchment is true to actual systems at play, trying to have one linear panel instead of 2 short ones for continuity and consider community engagement component. So the next steps are that you all approve this process and the finalists to advance to the city manager's office for approval of contracting. Then we'll follow up with concerns from the panel to ensure the design meets the expectation. Patients hopefully have a first preliminary design before the end of the year, final design and fabrication next year, and hopefully install that before the end of the year

[100:07] any questions about the process. You need a vote from us. I do. I I have a question. Can you please remind me, was there a budget submitted? as part of the the process. that's a good question. I wasn't here for that. I'm sure. There was a a as far as before the project was started. Yeah. And so the artists do do know the budget for the contract, which was the 18,750. so you're right there. There might be some adjustments with the design as we move forward. They did provide budgets that looked pretty good, but there were some questions. So I think that's what the preliminary design process is for during contracting is to

[101:02] hey the feedback from the panel, you know from the Technical Review Committee, and really refine this design, and really ensure that we can afford it. And so there might be some tweaks with the design. If there's anything super, Major, I will come back to you all for for to to report on that and get approval. But you know, Maria, as an example, during the presentation Gregory Fields did point out that he made some adjustments to materials and technique because of the low budget. So he's got his eye on it. Yeah. great. And I I think the other part is, you know, it'd be great for the artists to also make some money on this as well, so that that us all doesn't go into fabrication. So that's definitely like top of my list, for the artist is that they need to pay themselves. They cannot to spend all the money on materials. So that's yeah, we definitely want our artists to get paid for their work. Thank you. Yeah. Some point of clarification that and the passes that are. Both is about up through the process. But the many ones are not. What are we? Right? That's essentially. And so you advertise the opportunity. And then kind of

[102:15] I actually didn't do any of that. Mandy did that art. I picked up this project about a month ago. Okay, so we I I manage the final selection meeting where the so we had. That been artists that gave pre preliminary proposals, and we're paid for that work. And then we had then the panel selected 3 to refine those proposals with feedback from the Technical Review Committee, and then they are being paid for this final presentation of the local. So of those 3 Gregory Fields with but you having trouble piecing together the initial application, Bruce, do you remember that first round, how many initial applications. You went through

[103:07] dozens. Right? It was a bunch. Yeah. Yeah. So there were definitely more than a 7. But only 7 were selected to create that preliminary proposal, and then from there they selected 3 to for 5, and we present the great payment to all those people doesn't have a ready. That's that was additional for them to create the so the preliminary proposal. They were paid 250 that $150, and then for the refined proposal. The 3 are getting an additional 500. Okay? And so there's one chosen to send each other one. And there that there's that feedback. Okay.

[104:01] very good as well. hey, John? So that the proposed motion is that you approve this process to select Gregory Field for the somebody like that. That motion. I move that we approve this process with properly convention, and recommend the proposal by artists. Gregory Fields advanced in the city manager for final people. It's like a second any discussion before we go. Good job. alright and all favor. Please raise your hand. Yeah. The cute passes unanimously. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, Brandon. I know he's any other advice for success from the Commission can can I bring this? Is that okay with you? Sure, because there's some people do this so? yes, we do approve the process, but we don't neglect the fact that you represent the community. You have expertise in the arts. You may have great things to say to Staff City manager's office to the artist to make this success, and you may have opinions about this that we want to make sure you have an opportunity. So this is just a moment for us to.

[105:08] Honestly, I like the 2 panels, because then it makes it a space where people are kind of that's cool. I won't say conjugating. That's not right, though, coming from the name of the congregating instead of one long thing that just kind of. I wrote it down for sure. Yeah. any other feedback. Oh, yeah, they'll be. Step into your drive, and if you think of anything after the meeting. Just email, Brendan or text, or call any hour of my I'll give you a warning. I forgot all right. next on the agenda is once again fascinating to talk about, down to the phone and then matter, Matt Matt, any matters you don't matter from commercial out. That's right. Yup.

[106:26] thank you. That is, from Commissioners. I have. I have a report for the Temple of Equality, which is the funded public for Project Grants. Sorry, but also and thanks to Staff, I'm going to tribute to Staff lighting a fire under the it's a planning department, the

[107:01] I guess I'll just say the next the Older County Film Commission Event will be September thirteenth. So mark your calendar. One one of the speakers will be that guy who used to be the producer of the golden girls. I was his partner on a couple of projects. Yeah, I know him since 94 really, good guy, and we were. The community was sorry to loosen to Santa Fe. but it very well down here, but he's excited to come up for our talk. and there should be some other cool stuff. that we talk about at the phone commission event. But I can't talk about it just yet, because it's not public. but there's cool stuff happening in the building commission.

[108:06] there's a neat thing that will be coming to both there to be film. How much can I say? An episodic series? That's probably it. So it's kind of fun. Anyone else? Okay, Matt, you're up yeah, real quick. while you're thinking about all of your questions about the Wanted to acknowledge that Maureen has. He's been wrapping up our. It's a big deal And you know, last time we sort of talked really briefly about the the eyes and all that. But this is a big one, and so that is going to be rolling out the public at the end of the year is So we will need your help to spread the word and kind of still have some talking points and some materials about that.

[109:12] But what I don't think I mentioned last time is that it happens right at a time when there's a whole bunch of data. so we've got in in addition to ours, like, how about economic prosperity? The Nhs can be releasing data. Oh. the study and we've been working with the development center about for their economic study of the metro area. So all that happens very good. So we do rely quite heavily on day to make decisions. And especially since we're going to be having discussions coming up about updating the corporate planets here. So I just want to give you hands up. That's that's coming our way. And so count on an amazing meeting in November, December, all about data.

[110:13] So with that, said my favorite topic. But is there any other question? You just trigger the fact that we we have? It's it's been a while there. There was the time during Covid, when you know it happened, and we were quite sure. And so this year we just didn't send it out to everyone, because we just transition back in that sort of thing. But for everyone's dollars we do reserve some funds typically every year for commissioners to attend things like that. so it just wasn't right this year wasn't making it started. Yeah. So And you know, we were thinking at this conference. We also have money subs, but they are still

[111:12] yeah. Professional development for you is sad this year, but next year we'll be back in the swing of things. So if it comes back around. I kylie, said J. A commissioner be able to attend the what's an American for the arts that I went to that. My, maybe my first year on the Commission. Incredible! Incredible! I I got so much out of it. It's great seminars on like every home. everything with relative to what we're doing, grant making place, making public art, equity. everything. I I highly recommend it. So if there's funds, then Staff can make available for professional development.

[112:01] definitely talk to them and see me for for your interest. I think they're coming back to doing it and public in person, I think. or internal conference. Yeah. cool. Let's see, it does say matters from staff. So I feel like I should have more into anything. I don't think you we have watching. Thank you for sending. We should did a little bit. There was a lot of people traveling so to be really good at, and I'll just check on to that. I highly encourage you all to attend these events. It's really cool for us to be there.

[113:06] because these are, you know, probably 90% of the people in the room are going to be applying for grants. And so when they get to see you, a commissioner attending the events. They they take it much more seriously like, wow! This is this, I should. It's good that I'm here. so I I highly encourage you. It's obviously not mandatory. We respect your time. But I I highly encourage Commissioner to try to attend as many events as you can cool. What? Like? Monthly. Yeah. when we used to do this, and for some more, I mean, like for arts, events used to print out the older county Works Alliance calendar. Because that's really the like events happening around town calendar.

[114:02] Yeah, that's sort of like our events, any grants they're opening. And that sort of thing. Okay, every 4 weeks there's a lot of been working with Marta to get some. So I'm hoping to get some confidence in there so that they'll want to. audition for open to the public. yeah, yeah, love for our social yeah. And then having a show at our gallery, Philly dance.

[115:04] what? What's the date? Then collecting? I have some answers. There's some other. I'll use it as a segue to say I'm sorry I won't be able to attend. But I will be teaching filmmaking workshop to native American high school students on this new Indian reservation. So for for a week and a half. I'll be teaching on the You Mountain, you reservation near outside court says, and then I get a day off, and then another week and a half teaching on the Southern you Indian reservation for a total of 3 weeks. So I did it last year for 2 weeks, and I guess they like the. So they invited me back and made it even longer. so I'm very excited about that. So it it's it's funny, because when I read that land acknowledgment at the beginning.

[116:10] Oh, my God! It's so much more meaningful to me now now that I spent time there, it's like, wow! What I'm reading these these these words are real. And I I I am so grateful that I'm able to spend that time there. So yeah, that's why I'm missing. What are you gonna do on your day off the topic. But it's a rango. It's right at the top of the middle. Anybody else a Maria Cheryl. You want anything you want to share what you're working on or promote an event you're doing. All I can do is that

[117:06] technical for that first position? Have you talked to Kevin? So he's doing so much on the yeah, it'll be one of the very. I got more people

[118:01] right. Anyone else. all right. I'm not seeing anybody. Thank you, everybody. And hey.