May 7, 2024 — University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission Regular Meeting

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[0:09] Roll call Trent bush back here. Tell Jones. Ted Rockwell, Ted, not here. and I can follow. Yes, here. Okay. alright. So moving into our procedural items approval of the March fifth, 2,024 meeting minutes. Signal all in our package. Do I hear a motion to accept the meeting minutes as submitted. Yes. second second, we have a motion on the table to approve any discussion, seeing none, voting to approve. The March fifth, 2024 meeting minutes. all in favor. Any objections? You know

[1:01] you're kidding? I can't for the first time. Well, we have not sworn in the new. Our next item is farewell to Michelle Shaw Great. We serve on mission for the very tenure but really is that we're seeing so many different changes here within the Commission. yes, she's she's serving Cheryl. Thank you so much for your leadership. It's been a fun ride. It's a good good time to exit. Feel good about work that and all the Commissioners have done up until this point. That wasn't very fun for the work you've done. Thank you.

[2:00] It takes a bill. You're you're welcome. But and if you don't mind, Mr. Chair, so I guess humor. It's been an absolute pleasure. We Cheryl, since I came back to the city. In this work. And yeah, no doubt your influence has been a big part of the progress we're experiencing. We'll continue to be experiencing. We did bring cookies, and I know we can't. We're not planning to stay this whole time. But, please, we'll pass these around for handling our regular business. We have a special message token of our appreciation. It's really something for work. I'm sure. There's a spot at the box where this will fit nicely.

[3:07] Thank you for your very many years of the size of the the it's the matter to be honest years. I'm always available. Exactly. That's what it's been. Did you have the ability to participate a little more back with the hill boulder? And so, you know, in some ways. alright! Yes, we have no doubt that we will continue to see you and be involved in the work that you'll be doing on the hill. Sounds like you got some community working. Well, thank you. We'll be in touch. It's so much right here.

[4:03] Proclamation counsel. Next to this, please sign out. I'll let you get down to business because you have the swearing. Gonna take the cookie with me. appreciate everything everybody's done. Are you going to widespread? I'll be Peter's handler. Yes. I know you 2 know each other so. and you know how to get involved in so forth.

[5:01] If there any questions. thank you very much. I'll see you next year. Okay, that brings us to our next procedural item, which is a welcome open office for you, Commissioner Danica Powell. How do we handle the oath of office portion of this? I have an oath of office that I can walk through with Danica on camera with your hand raised. If you don't mind standing, what's more, so you can see the words as I'm saying that. But don't have to raise your okay repeat after me. I state your name, but I will support the Constitution and the State of Colorado, State of Colorado, and the charter and ordinance of the City of Boulder and the charter, and faithfully perform the duties of the office of a member

[6:05] member of University Hill Commercial Area Management Mission, and faithfully perform the duties of the office of a member of the University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission, which the time about to enter. Beautiful congratulations. This is sign here, and then we'll have Lauren signed, and then you're all set committed. do you think? Yeah, I guess. Thank you. So maybe as just a quick welcome we can do. I've met before. Maybe each Commissioner can do that. Go a little bit with the city staff as well as to get a sense of what the roles are. and give you an opportunity to also describe your role. So I'm the chair of the Commission. My name is Ted Rockwell. Maybe next year someone else will be the chair. We'll see. I work near University of Colorado Boulder. I'm a communications and marketing professional there, and having experience on some other boards to help commission.

[7:08] Gosh! Probably about 3 years ago. So. Danica, who are you? My name is Danica Powell. I live in boulder. I have previously served on the planning board and the hardest board in the city of Boulder Borough I also wanted to be rewarded directors. The Sierra Club, Executive Committee, and some other things. I run a consulting firm called Trustle Strategy Group, where I met a lot of folks on the hill through working on the hill projects and work on a lot of different things. We were on planning board together, Drew and I. So a lot of connections in town and 2 kids, 16 and 13 that will both be going to boulder high next year, so so expect everyone to keep their eyes on them for me. I guess that's it.

[8:05] And I'm really excited to serve on this question. So, Andrew, a brief introduction just we know each other well, I've been on the I think, 3 years, maybe when you can't see and but we'll leave it at that, I guess. Okay. Oh, tell Jones one of the partners at the Sync. And I've been on. You can't see. This is my first year inside my first year, right? Sixteenth 22, you know, Chris, hmm. and we had orientation last week. So okay, okay, I was using it as maybe a way of having a smooth transition into welcoming board specialist work candidate, which is the next thing on our agenda. Hello, Lauren! Yes. So Lauren has recently joined us. As our report specialist. And that position services secretary for the

[9:10] 5 conditions that we have. Sorry sometimes. This count. and really helping with. Just the management of the community vitality. Administrative duties. With Lisa. So we're not. We're not losing Lisa anymore. In this work. She joined us from the plane development services team. So really glad to have one here and some additional support. Keep everything running smoothly. So Lauren, welcome anything else you'd like to share with yourself. No, just happy to be here and excited to learn more about this and be part of it. I live in Boulder. Yeah, I lived here my whole life. So I did. I went to Boulder hiking. But yeah. great place. Very glad you're here. It's nice to meet you alright, so that brings us to elections of chair and vice chair. We didn't really discuss this the last time around. But we are now here at this moment.

[10:11] I'm I'm gonna put my name out there itself, nominate myself to continue in the chair role. Feel like it could be good in terms of continuity and allow for some of the momentum that we created the last year to continue in that role. are there any other people who would like to support to put their name in the hat for the chair position. I second your. That sounds great now on Device chair andrew is currently serving as vice chair. I really appreciate your your work there. I also know that you have been stretched a little bit there, and you sort of fill a gap in that in that way. Do I hear any nominations for advice? Chair moving forward? I'd love to have, and I might nominate you, but I'd like to know that you would be support that or that there wouldn't be someone else who went by phone.

[11:05] Yeah, I'm happy to step aside if somebody wants to, you know, under undertake that. I'm happy to. I haven't done that much so happy to fill the gap, if need be. But if somebody else wants to step up and play. that's great as well. I am stressed again, but with that but it's it's not a huge job. Let me take this off work. Try alright. Andrew alright. Second, that so what I'm going to do then, is propose. See if there is a motion on the table to approve the slate of nominations of 10. Rockwell is chair and shoemaker is vice chair for the University Hill Commercial Area District Commission.

[12:00] I moved to nominate Ted Rockwell as Chair and Andrew Shoemakers, Vice Chair of the University Hill Commercial Management Commission. See unanimous vote Missing Trend. But Nanos. thank you for your work there. Thanks, Andrew, for stepping in there. And we are now moving through procedural items to problem participation. I understand that we do have someone on the live for public participation. There are 2 members of the public on the call. If anybody would like to speak at this time, please raise your hand. I but Mary Ellis's free screen. Yeah, Josh Watson. So we will, I mean open up the mic for Mary Ellis, first followed by. Hear me! Yep. Oh, good. Okay. Hi, just here, representing the University Hill Neighborhood Association and

[13:02] boy, things are looking so much better in the commercial district. Now, things are really looking cleaned up, and it feels much safer place to be after dark. I've heard that the Hill Ambassador program is very successful. They're very welcoming and are cleaning up a lot of mess that's around. And Nancy asked that I express appreciation for the Hill Merchants Association's communications with residents. and we're looking forward to some good events this summer that will bring some activities to the district. And there was a question of whether, since the Arpa funding has expired at the end of this year will expire. What is the status of the request to City council for the additional $10,000 a year from the general fund to keep up the momentum of all the efforts that have been initiated?

[14:00] That was one question. Another question is, if it's possible to get a copy of the ULI. Tap Fourteenth Street report or design proposal. Those are the 2 questions, and then my final comments are the lime scooter. Chorale design has really worked out so much better than anyone had hoped. It's just really helped us a lot. They there. I just really haven't seen scooters left in the middle of sidewalks anymore for a couple of weeks. Now it's just great. and of course we're all looking forward to the opening of the Moxie Hotel. So that's really all I have to report. And if you could, if anyone knows about the status of the $10,000 request from Council. If you would like Chris. So we are able to absorb that administrative face so already included in the 2025 budget. So no need to go to council to ask for those funds we're planning

[15:09] existing budget. Did you? Did you hear that, Aaron? I had a little trouble hearing that. Could you please restate it? It's my computer isn't great. Sorry. So we are able to absorb that request within our existing budget. So without going to council to ask for the 10 K. We're planning on, including that additional amount in our contribution to the whole emergence next year, and thereafter. So at the end of through the end of this year there is funding, and then there will be a request made for 2025. Is that correct? It will. That's already included. So we're yeah in the in the planned budget. So without without even having to have a council formal request for 10 additional 10,000 additional dollars we've already administratively, with that in our 2025 budget. Okay.

[16:00] and the the ui tap Fourteenth Street design. It is. It is in last month's packet. We can make sure it's set up. Yup. Okay, great, thank you. That's all I had. Thank you. Thank you, Barry. Glad to hear that the month Scooter situation it is better than anticipated. Oh, it's really wonderful, actually. Excellent. Does anyone have any questions or follow ups for Mary? Okay. excellent. Do we have another person, Josh Watson. and we see your hand. Here. Okay. Can you guys see and hear me. Yes, we can't see you, but we can hear you. You can't see me. Okay, let me see if I can. I don't know. Yeah, we as part of these meetings, we will not be able to see you suffering. Okay? No problem. Hey? Guys? So my name is Josh. A lot of you have gotten over the past month or so

[17:02] the tree report. I did as well as the proposal for planting in the empty tree wells. And I just showed up to today to see if you guys had any questions about any of the stuff I had in there. My background was was an arboreist here in the city boulder. so I had a lot of interaction with the forestry department during that time I have since retired from being an arborist. I've always kind of worked as a massage therapist. So I opened this office on the hill almost 2 years ago now. And so I was just walking around. I saw the trees free wells empty, and I just started taking the clipboard with me and started noticing how many were missing. I didn't know it was quite so many, so I just made a map. And here we are today. So I just kind of think of me as a resource. I will gladly bash forestries policies. Over the years. I think a lot of foresters and arborist that are local do not really speak out against the city on stuff because of those city contracts.

[18:03] and where, in my case, I'm retired. I'm no longer going to be getting those contracts in any sense. I really don't have a horse in the race anymore, and I'm glad to offer any information that I can. It's good. So I've I first asked, does did anybody get or not get that report and would like it. You can contact me through my business. Fit bodywork. If any member of the community is watching this and like to see those reports fit Bodyworkcom, my emails on there. And it goes right to me. Thank you, Josh. I I think all of the members of the Commission have received their communications, and I think that I'll speak for myself. But if anyone else wants to disagree with us, I think we all are aware, and and keenly would like to guide the city to helping make this the the hill a vibrant place which would include

[19:09] making sure that planting sort of happening and trees are happening the way that with beautified area and and be sustainable. I think that's probably the biggest thing here is making sure that whatever is done can help promote those trees that are planted to actually survive and and make it more than just a couple of seasons. So I appreciate your passion around this. Does anyone else have any statement or any reaction for Josh? No? Then this. Thank him for the work that he did as well. So. Yeah, no problem. It took probably about a hundred 50 h of just kind of work. But I I've got a background in graphic design as well. So those maps were just vector graphics I can pull layers on, put layers off.

[20:04] So if anybody has any request for those maps to be customized. I can do that. But and also, as of this week I just reported to forestry. We we just lost about 3 more trees for the spring so about 3 or 4 didn't make it. Couple are just suspect at this point, but it kind of happens every spring. So yeah, I'm I'm here to help. I'm gonna continue working on this. I just heard back from Chris today. not a very positive feedback on the potential planting those the zeroscape. the low water usage plants as just a temporary recover to keep those wells from becoming mud pits when it rains. I was just hoping we could get some kind of a temporary solution hopefully, by August. That was just kind of my goals at this point. Excellent. Thank you very much for your work and for your feedback, and all of that.

[21:03] Okay, thank you guys. So let me know if you have any questions. Excellent, we will alright. This braces the other public participation. I believe there's no one else on the line moving to the consent agenda. Does anyone have anything that they wanted to reference within the consent agenda or in the Fund Financials phone financials? Yeah. So. looking at the Ujid, Dtmc report 2023. We budgeted. I'm gonna move $17,000 of interest in investment earnings. But in 2023 we came through with 84

[22:00] 4 1, 3. So 8, 4,000. Was that just an increase that the city decided to give Eugid? No. So, or the sale of the partner? No. So the what was budgeted in 2023 was based on previous years budget, before we had the sale Pleasant bought and so it wasn't accounting for all that additional interest receiving amount. So now we have adjusted upward or anticipated, and 2023 is really good year when it came to investment performance. So those 2 things combined not budgeting for it with all that new money. And then it was really good year. We've upped it for 2024. Let's do that as a result. So oh, wait! Did I get that right? That's great way of describing it. The the only other thing that I saw was

[23:01] 2023 budget under personnel and operating. We're planning to spend a lot more money. Even capital improvement. But the actual really low, but then really will compare to the budget of 2023. But then the 2024 budget is backup near the 2023 budget. Just kind of wondering why that is, did we not spend enough money that we should have spent? And or do we miss plan something we plan to spend at this next year. It's a really good question. So there are 2 pieces of that. First of all. We haven't been fully staffed when I was interim director. There's still a big director position which impacted our personnel expenses, and there are a few positions like that. So not as many positions drawing down from personal expenses. But and then, when it comes to operating, we've been trying really, really hard, actually, to make sure that we're

[24:03] even though we budgeted more than we're bringing in. We're trying to preserve as much of the user fund as possible for a future capital outlay for the Fourteenth Street hard or whatever we want, whatever decision you want to make there. So if we do spend more than we're bringing in, we're just eating more and more into our capacity to do that. So we've been trying to keep our expenses down. We can certainly spend up to the allocated budget, but that has just yet some longer term implications on the fund out. Yup. Thank you. This will follow. Thanks for asking this question, too. The the 48,000 or 46 48,320 on the budget for the next year's interest. Is that just being conservative? Or is that? Yeah? Yeah. And those numbers, I believe, are just given to us from the finance department. So that's why there was some lag central finance to help us understand kind of what our portfolio could perform as

[25:10] and it's they're very conservative, as you can see, our budget to actuals for 23 obviously requests how conservative they can be right. But in part, if that was because the cash balance for for the interest to be able to accrue on was not factored into that 17,000 because of the sales. 2 million dollars can make a lot of interest if you've let it sit for a while. So yeah. but yeah, we're we're hoping it's it's always nice to see our budget to actuals over perform in revenue and underperform and expenses. But we like to try to keep them as close as possible. So we do have a really good understanding of the fund health over time trying to get you to the flow. Yeah, 100% and then I guess the only other thing that I saw this report. It seems like. are you looking at the hourly visits, or the daily visits, or whatever.

[26:02] We're definitely lower than we were last year with people coming into town. Is that a direct correlation with the construction that's going on? Or do we know what that means, or we'll get a sec. So that's part of actually the presentation that yes, we can. Let's we certainly thinking, yes, putting the pieces together. You read your packet. Anything else? Go ahead. I was just gonna ask if there's any other questions. Anything else around on financials or consent. Agenda time. Okay. Excellent. Moving forward. Then for a bill or update from Home Versus Association. Jake, yeah, I don't have a whole lot to report on this month, mostly because much of what I'm working on. I'm working with Regan on. And I think she's gonna

[27:04] present on that later. But I did want to call out, emergent Meetup is coming up on May fourteenth at 2 Pm. It's at the same location. The Crown Institute Aspen Conference room. We yeah are hopeful that future meetups might be held in the boxy. But for now we're we're sticking with the Crown Institute space whenever they can fit us in. So that's coming up next Yup next week, Tuesday, May fourteenth, to 2 Pm. Couple of district projects that I called out that I think Regan will talk about more. But we're doing some spring flower planting on May fourteenth. We've got the ambassadors helping, and we've got some city maintenance staff helping that's the same day as our merchant meet up. But we are looking for volunteers. If you know anyone who wants to help plant some flowers we're working on. So the office bards and culture is working on some public art projects, including a crosswalk mural that will go across Pleasant Street outside of the new Moxie and then, in kind of

[28:15] early phases of a larger public art project for the Hill, and more details to come. 3 new businesses have opened, or there, or they're worth mentioning since our last meeting. The Nick Ryan Art Gallery, that is located behind Alice Barbershop. The grand opening is May sixteenth the moxy boulder. Sounds like May twenty-third ish is the last I heard, and then Tripoli may open this July. That's not confirmed. But that's that was the most recent estimate I heard. And then they also have appeared on Google Maps now. So and I meant to include that the point cafe has reopened as the loving cup.

[29:06] So there! That coffee shop on the corners open again. Done done. Box has closed. That was where the Scrooge monkey all Scrooge rocky spot. No word on. didn't didn't hear why, but I reached out and see if they respond. That's all. I've got any questions for Jake or. yeah, I I do have a question. are all of these businesses up on the hill that have been getting closed down even, I guess downtown are resolved through the students. Are they due to what? To the stings that are going around none of these are related to that. I've heard things about like chicken on the hill. Taco Turkey! Was that sitting influenced, or is that just they did something different. I

[30:00] do not know. I was just wondering. I do not know. My understanding is that chicken on the hill and Taco junky are open. I think they were closed for a brief period. My understanding is that things have been resolved enough that they're now open. Just yeah. right? That's true right underage alcohol sales. And so there was shut down for a period of time as a result of being in violation of that like they need to pay. I'm not entirely clear on this, but I think that those businesses had to pay it fine in order to to go. So basically, they send somebody, and that's under age to try and buy alcohol with a real id that shows that they're under age. Okay, we're still allowing it to happen any other questions for Jake before we move forward the agenda. You talked about wayfinding.

[31:03] I'll talk about late findings. I just got a note on how to miss something. Jake, do you know, it's the Moxies opening? But they're also probably a couple of other businesses within the moxy potentially. Do you know much about those details. Yeah, I've not heard any opening dates for the Mr. Osso and the cafe. I think those are the no, but I I have not heard details. Yeah, but I will hopefully include them in the next one. I'm assuming those details should be available. But I think they're trying to get their records by purchasing.

[32:00] So with any luck. Oh, actually, let me add one thing that that this reminds me of. So visit boulder and saver productions. Just jess Ben. They have helped set up a taste of the hill tour for the moxy employees. That's on the twenty-first. so they'll they'll bring the. They've got most of the employees already in place at the Moxy, so they'll bring them around and kind of give them little. let me double check. I mean, I'll I'll follow up with the exact same timeframe cause it just got planned really, recently. Emails for Jake. It is the 20 first of this month. Yeah.

[33:01] you'll feature that in that little versions association meeting options. Correct? Yes. excellent. Moving forward in our agenda over to Madison staff. So I maybe I'll do a little bit of an intro, so I think maybe get some time for slides to get up. So the city has access to a new platform called Baser AI this is a AI platform that utilizes cell phone data much like market research folks have been doing for many, many years now. But it is able to provide a tool that we're able to easily extrapolate some interesting data in a pretty efficient way. We're not having to pay an outside consultant to do it on a regular basis. We're able to use our license to do the work ourselves. And so we're really looking forward to being able to provide regular updates to all of our commissions and our dids. on visitor data that we're getting from this platform.

[34:07] And so Elliot has volunteered to be our presenter. And putting these reports together on a quarterly basis, and maybe, like the end of the year will do a full year. Report for how things went. But yeah, with that I will hand it over to what we're seeing. Then Chris will pick up the pieces of the trouble. So Chris's point, please realize the software platform we're using. This report is looking at Q, one from 23 and 24. And it's basically visitation numbers is what we're looking at. So it's an aggregate number of basically any cell phone that pings within this area. If you have any geolocation stuff turned on your cell phone, this, this is feeding into that data. So it's all anonymous. None of it has any data. privacy issues with it involved in it. But it does help us get a good understanding of at least what cell phones are doing which pretty much everyone has a cell phone these days. So people are doing.

[35:05] so this is our area. Obviously, the Universal University Hill General Improvement District. So that's the Geoffense that we put around this area to help us kind of track movement of people, and we'll get into some of the cool details. So blue is 2024 on the left hand side, and red is 2023, actually. Yes, and you can see there that you know. 23. We had a little bit more visitation in Q. One than we did in 24 2320 23 was actually a very good year economically in terms of well, as we saw with the interest rates, and also visitations. People were out more those types of things. I think the inflation, woes, and everything else that's going on in the world is just slowing things down a little bit, and people are getting a little fatigued.

[36:01] But I think some of the the interesting remarks you can see here is that the average dwell time. So how long people actually spent within University Hill was also a little bit higher. So not only were we getting more visitors, but they were also staying longer. So that was kind of an interesting note to to to make. I might not. So something that's really interesting about this is this panel visits line. That's the number of pings that they actually use to extrapolate the estimated number of folks who are visiting the space and that number went up which might be, you know, their algorithm might have said that actually, more people have their location services turned on. And so they do these calculations. But yet interesting thing is the number of visitors stay relatively flat for the first quarter, but the number of times that they're visiting is what change that's translated into this first quarter. And I I do suspect, and and curious whether or not the business change in operations. Well, there's some more stats, see later. But the kind of point to maybe a difference in the young person's experience on the hill this quarter versus

[37:15] same time last year. Exactly. So something else I do want to mention as well. Is that chris and I were looking at the calendar, but I remember correctly. there was 4 Saturdays. Oh, I just completely closed. That so convenient. Yes, it's what I get for using a touch screen. There was 4 Saturdays, and we're not sharing all I don't know. Multi tasking here. So bear with me as I try to do that for Saturdays in January, and there was only or so 4 and 24, 4 and 23. But there was one more Sunday, so an extra weekend they can make, you know, somewhat of an impact here. But again, that was just for

[38:04] January. So let's move on. So here's the visits. Trends. Again. 23 is in red. 24 is in blue, so the trends mirror each other pretty well so that the scale on the bottom there is your your day. So you have 90 days within the quarter you can see, they're kind of like February ish timeframe. There was actually more visitations in 23 than there was in 24 so maybe things are a little romantic around university, home type thing. and then something else we can capture, too. And I apologize. This is extremely small on the screen. Is our demographics. So we have medium household income, our degree, medium age, common ethnicity, and persons per household that we can see there. So here's an average across all those

[39:00] which tells a pretty good story as well. You can see, these demographics will probably look a little bit larger than say, like downtown or 20 Ninth Street Mall, just because of its proximity to the university. But this is kind of distrib distribution of that household income across again, that 50 to 100,000. is really where we found that average. But we did have quite a few in that over 150 K. Here's a distribution of our education. You can see most of it's higher education, at least 40 degree or more, which should become no surprise right next to the university. And here's our age demographic, and you can see a large portion of the visits are in that 18 to 24 year old category. So it's it's very predominantly. That like college age, and this is again for 2024, and then ethnicity wise we're looking at most. Visits were from white ethnicity. What? And then the household high household size as well again. Kind of more. That single 2 and a half household kind of size.

[40:11] Any questions so far. Yeah, I've got a couple of questions. Actually, if you go back to the the line shirt, it's got the red, blue 2 2 things, the chart that's on the right hand side says 2.3 M. 2.8 M. What does that represent? And why the tools exactly the same in both of those. I didn't really understand what was going on there. Chris, can you touch? So these are because they're the same district. So this, if we were Comp. So we're comparing same different time zone. The same area. So we can also do is compare University Hill to downtown boulder. And then that those numbers will be different, because it's different visitation.

[41:00] But really, it's just because we're comparing same overlay area, the same overlay area. So that's why they're so 2.3, and represents total for the year. That so that's just pertains to the the one in the line graph, not the the total numbers. So the with the chart on the right is total number for the year 2 2.3. Yeah. So it's it's already they do. It's year over year. It's the 2 different years are the 2 different colors. But since how there's 2 different, it's almost treating it like it's 2 different areas. But it's the same area. It's just over 2 different years. So it's the way place, right? Aggregates the data. So the the table on the right. It's a little misleading, because it looks as if there's 2 different sections. But really it's the same exact thing, because it's all University Hill. So that's why, the numbers repeat 2.3,000,002.8,000,003.4.

[42:15] Yeah in the table. They don't really on the graph. They they're relevant. Yeah. Yeah. And then just a question about or just a thought, I'm wondering what the weather was like in February, year over year is that I didn't see any anything like that in here, but I know a lot of track weather is something in terms of the traffic number of people coming in on any particular week. We this is a populated report in the Pdf. But happy to sit down with you on the one on one, and kinda but it does track all those things and track special events that are going on. So we are able to see that, I think for the benefit of our work. It's more trends over time. And yeah, weather certainly does play a significant factor in in activity. And

[43:05] something that we can look at. And you can look at using this app. Thank you. Of course. Will we be looking at this every quarter through every one of these? That's the intent. Yep. So kind of continue to watch. So after graduation comes tourism, and that's in. There's that halfway between quarters to do so you'll see it like completely switch from students or 18 to 24 to yeah, yeah, I mean, so you have a January to March, April mid June, July that September, October to December. Right, so that June timeframe is going to be that big transition between the you know your largely college population to more of a tourist population, so that demographics could change. And again, what we're hoping is now that we know that we have this data with the new hotels and the conference are opening up. We're gonna hopefully be able to see when it's been what we have been saying. And we can. We? This day goes back to 2,017. I have run annual courses.

[44:11] We don't. We didn't want to overwhelm you with. And yeah, we do see a complete drop off in May. And then everything builds back up in the fall. And we're hoping that with the the anticipated economic generators, we're gonna see those numbers be different in the summer and and winter. Once use that session, and we'll be able to show it of an interesting point that it probably is next level at this point, because we're just being introduced to this kind of idea and this data, but that perhaps on the Hill quarterly reports might not be the best way to measure summer traffic. And I'm wondering if there's a way of building a kind of between mid May and Mid August kind of which bridges quarters. I think, for now quarterly is perfectly acceptable, and we're gonna be able to see.

[45:08] But I do wonder, given the way traffic works for this particular commercial district. If something like that might not be in order. Yeah, we we can create date filters to last day of graduation, greater last day graduation. I think we have a lot of flexibility within. How we pull these reports. Even more of a an introduction. Oh. but it's great! I'm glad we're figure out a lot of ideas all before we walk. It's exactly right. Exactly right. Alright, thank you. Of course. So these here this is kind of I train a heat map here that shows some of the like home locations. So where people are coming from and going to. So anything that's in that blueish color is greater than 755,000 and then you can kind of see how it kind of plays out on that. Thank you. Yeah, less than yes. People, right? Thank you.

[46:13] Yes. So you'd see the majority of visits are in red which makes a lot more sense than the people coming in. This one here is kind of interesting as well. It tells you what people are doing before they come to like where they're coming from to get to the hill, and then where they're going to. You can see the majority of it is home. So most people are coming from home to the hill, and then going from the hill to home. But you can also see that colleges and universities, obviously and student residential, has a lot to do with that. No, I think big surprises here, although that hotels and casinos that might change a little bit. We have no lunch on the hill 2 or 3 times a week, and I was interested to kind of see, like a work to work. And I was curious.

[47:02] Why Post wasn't work. Maybe it just sees me as a university employee. I'm going back to a college or university in that case, but the Geoffense for Cu would be, the university would show up as work. So I'm yeah. Okay. So people are leaving work getting drunk, and then I can't make it. No, no kidding. That is interesting. They aren't going back to work, though. Yeah, there is time of day. Well, and then the next slide is something that is very telling. Yep. So this this looks more about the distribution of those daily visits. Again, 24 versus 23 blue versus red kind of like the days of the week that people are visiting this area. So you can see it's a little bit more heavy. On the Thursday, Friday we would see that across. Really, any of our districts. More more people go out on the weekends. No surprise there. But then, even furthermore, we can kind of see the time of day on that next one which

[48:07] does have like a nice like afternoon starts to pick up and starts to die off there around 1011, 12 o'clock at night. So there's that little lull in the very early morning hours. So people aren't crawling around too much especially in 2024. But a lot of that has to do with number of visits. So what's really interesting here is, we are seeing the stats that the busiest time on the hill is at 10 o'clock at night. It is busier on the hill these days at 1011, 12 o'clock at night than it is in downtown boulder. 2023 was was strongest here, and that's a new anomaly from the past 3 years. That was not the case. 3, 4 years ago. So we are seeing some changes in behavior. And that's where that own. So the hill to home comes from is huge number of visitors after school. They got home.

[49:08] Then they've gone back out. and then they go back home before they go back to school hopefully. But they're not getting up very early. It looks like, according to their but just really interesting numbers. But we are seeing they've dropped a bit in 2024, and I suspect. Now that the this department has caught up with some of the behaviors of some businesses on the hill, it's changed a bit. And the experience that folks are having and still not visiting as often. That's why I suspect. visit duration set next one there. So this is the length of the visit. If you will. you can see there's actually quite a bit of visitation that does go over that 150 min, which is pretty neat to see, but a lot of it's aggregate around that 15 to 45 min. Even 23. First 24.

[50:08] So lunch. Go to it quick. Lunch, going back to the office, those types of things. And then these are the routes that people are taking to get to the hill. And you can see, obviously the majority of it that's coming down Broadway. But there are some ancillary streets, and then, of course, region drive with the university and everything else. So in this day is really helpful for our way finding conversations and thinking about that unfortunately placard AI is not yet able to distill out pedestrians from cars. So this is just largely people driving, which is not the only demograph we're trying to reach with our way, finding work. But and this is the journey to the hill. We are also able to see the journey from now, where books are headed after they've left. Fortunately, place right now, unless you populated report with one or the other. Not both. So we're showing you. The 2 journey of in this report is the University itself blacked out in this data because it it seems to not.

[51:13] I would expect there to be a lot of traffic right? And this is just car traffic. So actually, the lead school of business, Brian Lundowski. They have. They have a license for place. AI, too, and they've been Geo fencing all the sea properties. You can look at Folsom Field. Got it? Football is not the biggest draw. I'm sure you can imagine what the biggest draw last year was for Yup so, and the biggest stay in downtown boulder, according to Place Surai last year was parents weekend in October. Presumed it would be Memorial Day, though.

[52:00] there is one caveat when you're using cell phone data. And if you have a big event like a race event, for people might not bring their cell phones with them. Then, you're not going to get those numbers. So there, there are some caveats to using this data and stuff. That's why I wanna point to. It's more, can we see trends over time? And that's really what we're going to understand. We have seen a slight Slowdown in sales, tax receipts for January. That's consistent with what we're saying, and some of the visitation numbers for our commercial districts. And so this is just one way that we can continue to monitor how things are going as we try to figure out what our priorities are for the months years ahead. Thanks so much. Yeah. Thanks for acting in. Did you have anything else on this? Or is that? That's all I have any other questions I can figure out how to stop sharing. Hey?

[53:00] Alright, can you share my screen? Great? Now, we'll yeah move on to Regan's, update on where we're at with the wayfinding and other revitalization revitalization efforts. Yes. alright. Dive right in. Sorry, giving you all an update on pedestrian wayfinding. So just as a reminder, we are installing temporary wayfinding signage which is replicating the signage that's currently installed downtown on Pearl Street to be installed within you did within the commercial district and along Key Corridor, so that includes Broadway, Eleventh Street, and Thirteenth Street, up the Arboretum path back to Broadway. At this point we are in the final stages of finalizing the signs with the designer. And I think we're on track with installing them on existing lamp posts that if lamp posts that we've identified by Memorial Day, which is exciting so hopefully that'll be

[54:16] all set and ready to go before the hotel opens. Fingers crossed. But an example sign is on the right hand side, and they will be double the size of the ones that are currently downtown. They're gonna be about 18 by 22 inches. Wanna show you a map of the proposed locations here, ignore the numbering systems, correlates with the excel spreadsheet that I have. But this gives you a general idea of where they will be located. So again, as you can see, going up Eleventh Street, they'll be on the pedestrian scale, lighting along Broadway, and then again on thirteenth, going up the arborea all the way to downtown.

[55:00] Tell, did you say you had a question about? Yeah. So if you're looking for driving southbound on Broadway, going up from here up to the Moxie. There's a sign from years ago, when it was parking on the right, it says, parking with the big P, and it points to the right. It's just still sitting there. People are confused quite often. I have. I guess if you're moving on. I just have one more question. Yeah, do they have other? If you go back one slide? Are there other things besides those? For? Yeah, there are several landmarks, and then there will also be several locations where it's just this way to downtown, and on the other side, this way to the hill to really help visitors kind of navigate between 2 districts.

[56:10] Yeah, there are several warm headmarks on the other side. In other words, assigned their location specific. Exactly. Yeah. and there are 2 signs on C use property. I think it's 28 and 29, but we've already received approval. From them, and they're excited to help us out with this alright. Another exciting initiative, this upcoming summer we're partnering with Bruce music project. So they are a nonprofit local nonprofit organization in boulder. They sort of operate as a music incubator. They help up, and coming artists kind of find a stage and a presence. so they will be producing a live music event series that will feature a talented youth artist, 2 emerging local acts and one established, established regional act for each event.

[57:02] The dates are listed there, as well as their flyer on the right hand side. I can't. What is it called on the Rise concert series? Yes. and there will be one event. So the first 3 are on the Hill Events Street, and then the final one in September will be in Boulder Junction and Depa Square Plaza. And so right now, we're working on finalizing our agreement with them and getting that final approval to do an event in Depot square, and the musicians have not yet been selected. That's still in progress. Jake touched on this briefly during his Update. But we are working with a mural artist to create an artistic crosswalk design across Pleasant Street at Broadway, and the intent is for her for the design to flow up onto the sidewalk as well. and we've identified 5 mural artists from the mural artist roster that will be asking to submit a proposal

[58:06] that tells the story of the hill that includes some of the hills, unique elements, such as such such as it's rich music, history. It's proximity to see you etc. And so the mural artists are going to submit a proposal by end of May, and then hopefully, selection and installation will take place in June, going into July. Certain opportunity for any of the Commissioners to participate in the selection process. Yeah, absolutely. Once we get the proposals from the 5 year. Lras, I'm more than happy to share that. Yeah. Cheryl was. Well, Cheryl's involved. She's no longer on the commission, so we'll just need to. Right? Okay. But I just wanna make sure that we can bring in one more right perfect.

[59:01] And then, lastly, some other upcoming efforts, while power washing took place on May second and third. I've heard it looks really nice. I haven't been up there in the last week. Good evening. jake already mentioned this as well, but we are partnering with Dvp. The Hillboulder, the ambassadors to do some plantings next Tuesday in the raised flower beds on thirteenth of Pennsylvania, as well as in the planters within the district. We'll be investigating new murals. I know that we've been to do a mural on the other side of that property because it spruce up the alley. I think we've failed at making contact with them thus far. Keep trying. Not that I'm in school today. No, the guy that used to run it all the time. I thought he was the owner. He's no longer there, so completely different group. So I don't know. Maybe that's why you're not getting hold of anybody. I'll have to touch base with Cheryl on that. She's attempted the last couple. Okay, yeah, it's definitely different. Crew in there.

[60:14] We are exploring, planning for some short term Fourteenth Street law activations to activate the space over there, draw more foot traffic and visitors, something engaging. For that space, and then, lastly, exploring a site for a permanent public objectivity. That's all. I thought questions for me again. Beautiful! Alright with that over to Matt. sound that having what we have on the planning side for all of our districts. That have some applications for the work that we're doing, Eugene, specifically for some long term decision making companies

[61:00] the commercial area connections and quality life Improvements Council priority that was established for retreat. So, Matt, I will hand it over to you. Appreciate that as our officially district vitality and cultural vibrancy or sweat in this meeting your district mentality first. Yeah, I appreciate that and we covered a little bit on this last meeting. Give you a taste, but we've got some detail here, so I wanted to walk you through it. We've got some questions for you at the end about your advice on the scope. Any stakeholders anyone else we should be contacting to make sure this work does well, and then finally asking for volunteers to help us out. And represent, you can't see but as far as the scope of this project. We wanted to start with the the reasons that we're starting this work now. We talked a little bit about last time that there's new opportunities in each of the districts. I mean, certainly on the hill, the hotel, the conference center. There's also, you know, issues that new challenges that we're facing in the districts that we're keeping an eye on. But also that city council really made it clear that

[62:17] in their retreat. The connections between our commercial areas and the quality of life in them is a real priority for them, and they called out specifically that connection between the hill and downtown that we need to focus on this across all departments. And so there will be a lot of efforts and a lot of but I'll I'll explain to you in a little bit about how this project can really be a key way of answering those questions. I really want to be able to see this on my own screen. But okay, that's interrupting me. Unacceptable. but one of the key ways to understand this is that it does this project does ultimately

[63:01] work its way into some recommendations for you and city council, as the Board of Governors, directors, correct board of directors to make decisions like, that's really what we want to provide with you, with some recommendations on how to decide on on what to do. Coming up and both sequencing of how we'll get to that is, first going out to the community stakeholders. People across the city to ask those questions about what the vision is? Both right now, the current state of what do we need to do in the big future, to make improvements, to connections, to quality of life, to the maintaining what we have, but also looking out into the future and trying to anticipate the building that we're gonna need to plan for down the road. So once we have a vision, we need to understand what it's gonna take to execute on that and make all these things happen? And then how do we prioritize those vision elements? How do we just set forward stages of how we can accomplish these different things

[64:07] once we know how much it's gonna cost and what we should do. First, then, we need to know the financial tools, all the governance governance efficiencies that we need to put in place in order to accomplish that. And then, finally, any policy or ordinance or other actions that we need to take. And we're gonna do all of that in a quick 15 months. So when we think about those the sequencing of those elements, we are looking at them as current state future state, because we want to by about this time next year have some media things in place, maybe even already. Going in order to make some actions. And I won't read all of these questions. They were in the packet. But these, these are high level. We're actually going in through a process with other departments to refine this and make sure we got these questions just right. And then also, the future state right is to understand the long term. So we we're

[65:07] I have a vision of a matrix of birds, future state, current state, all the elements. It's going to be beautiful. but this is something I showed you last time when we get to that point of understanding the vision, understanding the cost of prioritization and having a roadmap, we really need to pay attention to the balance of the revenue side of the taxation, parking revenues against the obligations, the expenses, the immediate maintenance that's needed, and then that vision for the future, and making sure among financials. get us to that point efficiently. speaking of which we put this together. I think I just think it's beautiful. I put it here, but one of the things that probably very few people outside of this room and the other general improvement districts understand, is exactly how the general improvement districts

[66:07] tax and what the revenue was like. And this shows you some of the things that we're trying to rebalance. Right is that we have University Hill that is generating not enough to meet our current vision, let alone a future state. And what is the future of getting to that point versus something like Boulder Junction? Same thing happened to me versus Boulder Junction, which is collecting a lot of revenue revenue for parking and transportation management that for an area that Rtd isn't servicing right now. So we need to understand things in in that vision element. In order to make this chart really efficient for all the districts. Pause there for a second. Chris, do you have anything to add around Elliot?

[67:01] Can I ask a really detailed question here? I'm sorry, Chris. I'm gonna have to do it. Gross assessed value for you. Jet is 19 million dollars just under 20 million dollars. That cannot be correct. Can't be. The a single building on the hill cost 3 to 4 million dollars. And so I'm wondering, how do we come up with that number when all you have to do is look at the hill and you see multiple buildings where you just tally it up, and you're at 20 million dollars halfway down the block. And it's actual value versus success value. Sure again, for I mean downtown boulder Cajun 411 taxing boss. So the assessed values understand it, though, because that's you're what you're getting for me is like the general reaction of like, how is this possible right that seems like such a low tax?

[68:03] the the the taxable assessed value when I mean, honestly, you can't buy a shack in this town for a million bucks. You know what I mean. So so it is. It is the difference between assess value and actual value. So it says, value. You take the actual value, you multiply it by the assessment rate which is set at the state level and residential is 6.7% last year. So if you have a million dollar property, that's only what $67,000 worth of assessed value. Right? So that's where that number comes from. So it's a very small portion of the actual value. But the assessed values what the mill levies get applied to. And you did. Specifically, the mill levees get reduced because of tamer limits. So the full no levy authority when Youtube was formed is 4.9, 8, 4, but due to revenue limits from time to go. It's gotten limited to 1.6 9 one. So there's kind. It's kind of a 2 full. You have the assessment rate, and then all of this is going to be very much in your face. Come this valley here, and it's currently being debated right now. And

[69:13] actually, today's seventh. So it's no longer being debated in the State Senate, because yesterday was the end of legislation. Forward 2023, 2024. So I don't know what happened to that bill to keep it that way. Which translates into challenges for property tax based entities for downtown boulder business for the district, dealing with some of these same challenges, because there have been effort as an effort to reduce individual property tax versus which then translates into reduced revenues for text districts. I appreciate the explanation I went through this. I'm like, I'm not a numbers kind of communications. Guy, across the face. Not not just the actual mill versus what the miller needs before revenue limits. That's effectively. We're one third where we would need to be. But then the gross assessed value seems so woefully low. It's like how you can't.

[70:17] I don't. I think my property tax is like more than that, or something. It is so small. Yeah, well, so the 33,000. That's a very small portion of your tax bill. Yeah. So it's what 2 of your full tax Bill is actually going to. So if you're if you're, you live in Youtube, if you feel much, if you're in property, and there's not a lot of residential in Eugene. It's mostly commercial. so can I just try. I move this. Really, I don't get this either. But is the asset, so is the gross assessed value of property. Associate all the property you find it mostly the most, the commercial tax rate, because it's mostly commercial. And then that's

[71:06] the 19 million correct. So in the zoom, the commercial taxing rate, like 2022. So it's 20% of the gross assessed value of all the land. Actually, yeah, I mean. So they kind of got it multiplied that by 4 ish. 4 and a half ish. That's gonna give you a little bit more of an insight into the actual values of properties. So more like 80 million 90 million 1 million. So we're around, there is probably a little bit closer to the actual that I can get you. That comes from the county right and the and the total right. The total mills that you can see in each of the the second line. Each of the districts have different total property taxing obligation between Boulder Valley School district and Older county. And all these things. And so our dids are just a very small portion of the overall tax burden. The property tax burden and it all boils down to at least for each other

[72:07] small enough fine. So why, on the column on the right we have district revenue of over half a million dollars. but only 56, and a sets value versus those percentages are completely way off versus you did. That's 11 seminals, the number of males. 1.7 bills. And that wasn't the original. No, that's been registered down through Tabor Laws, where beach dad parking tm of. and debris and not subjected to the table restrictions. We could go through that process with about property owners on the health debris district. That's an option that we want to explore with you all. If you want to figure out a way to generate more revenues, for the for the Gid

[73:15] are extremely confusing. And the mill do you remember? Yes, it is French for or Latin for 1,000. So that's where the context is. $1. $1,000 is the idea. Right? Thousandth of a dollar. one thousandth of a dollar a dollar. Okay. not a dollar. And about.

[74:02] And and I think the discussion is great because this is something everyone's gonna ask when we go through this process. Right? So we need to be careful. Do this right. Have people understand before they give us advice and their vision right? So that it's good to make sure this is thoughtful explanation. So back to the scope on this project is we have some several things that we're going to accomplish. We're going to do deep community engagement with stakeholders, with people who know these districts well. A one A in here is there's also an opportunity to when we ask about vision and about the criteria of what makes a great commercial center. There's there's opportunity to learn about how all of our commercial centers across the city work or can work best. And so, in order again, going back to that city council priority, we want to make sure that we don't squander this opportunity and ask the right questions in order to get out of this, not only what to do with our general proven districts, but what to do with commercial size generally. So that's a little twist that's going to be in here, and I'm sure we'll need your advice on that as well. To complement what the community tells us about vision. We're going to take a look at some data and research projects, especially benchmarking

[75:23] but also a careful analysis of deployment of all we've been talking about with taxation rates and assessments, and so reduce a fully rounded understanding of the current future state of districts. it from the data. Provide recommendations which we'll get a chance to look at. Comment on and then ultimately, seek, seek approval and be asking you for your recommendation on that as well. And then I think we're already pushing this deadline a little bit. But we're scoping out the project right now and are looking to have the Rfp on the streets pretty soon. But have someone contracted in the third quarter, and we will be before city council. A date determined, maybe August.

[76:16] Talk about this with them. And then, by the end of this year we do some occasion to kick off and get the project started. So this work is going to be moving into the update to the Boulder Valley Comp plan cause. There are some key definitions related to neighborhood centers. There are team in the city of Boulder because Council has an expressive desire that while the connection between the University Hill Neighborhood Center and the downtown Regional Center. Is a priority for them. They also want to have a conversation about gunbarrel and the ideal market. They open area north Boulder. So we're trying to work out planning and development Services department on making sure that they're all speaking the same languages we're contemplating

[77:05] and the dids we have. We do have a little bit more leverage because we do have dedicated funding to help accomplish the the vision for neighborhood centers. Than other hybrid centers do. So we want to develop the vision and be the model for these conversations. So before we ask our questions. View, I just wanted to make sure that it's clear that as clear as it can be or if there's anything missing that we should go investigate, seek out before we get roll. You can always come to. Well, she's not so our questions for you. You have any advice on us for success of the scope, and particularly who we should be talking to.

[78:00] Again. You know I'll bam a little bit where you think about that. But you can reach out to us. Regan's on this team. This is Elliot and Christine. So we're ready to talk anytime to make sure this goes well, but wanted to get your advice on this. And didn't we, at the last meeting get volunteers from? We can't see. We got some sort of preliminary. I think we're gonna stand it today. I? Well, I was just seeing like using this data that you have and really trying to try and get stakeholders that represent the visitors and people that are coming to the hill, which is a lot younger, and and I don't know how to do that, but that seems like that. If they're these are the people spending money and time on the hill. They should be participating in this somehow. Why not? You know, obviously not making decisions. But I think that that would be a group that you'd want to try and have a

[79:04] stakeholder engagement with the 18 to 24. And what about alums that come back for football and stuff like that? Those somebody that we want to? Yeah, I mean, I think, in addition, that I just think that that's a hard group. And they're not usually when they're students. And but it just seems like those are the people that that the data is showing like overwhelming things that they're on. So we're using this reporting tool. I think it's very valuable to kind of try and hit some stakeholder groups that that makes sense, I mean. And then certainly, student voices. But someone who has. or understanding of their yeah, those could be the employers who are employing some of the students or work, you know, seeing them well and back to the data. If parents weekend is a big

[80:01] population in town. the people who the coordinate parents weekend parents. Okay, yeah. that'd be a good one. Yeah. I mean to broaden the point that Danic is making. I think community engagement here is tricky and one that probably deserves a significant amount of thought about in terms of creating damage, because there. There are a lot of residents up there, and our business owners. And we don't want their voices to be muted necessarily, but we also need to make sure that it's seen as a commercial area history as well. And that there are people being attracted that or should be attracted. That's the one thing I would say about Dennis observation. That's an obvious commercial. you know. Consumer customer. But there may be ones that we would want to be engaged with that aren't being tracked currently.

[81:02] that aren't aren't participating. The hill in particular has that kind of issue. So I don't have any like bright ideas for you how to how to do that. But it does seem like there's a certain amount of let's help identify what we mean by the community that we're engaging. Well, and that's interesting. You make me think, too, like that spreads into how we prioritize. Because, you know, I I think I'm aware that there's only so much we can do to stop people in Boulder from commenting like, we're going to be great engagement, I have no doubt. Yeah. But it's also like. what are the voices that lead us to a reasonable priorization of the ideas? yeah, cares. I think the way it would. Oak. I mean. I'm when I think about connections between the hill and downtown. I know you're not soliciting feedback at this moment, but I'm also bike rider. And there's one big thing that is difficult is that the bike path is on the east side of, and there is no easy way for the hill to engage with the bike paths. You can go underneath that overpass there.

[82:17] But then you end up on the hill, and there's really no good way for you to ride your bike. And you can't. Really. You're either in an alley or on the sidewalk. Okay? And we also know that when they build a conference center. That intersection is interesting. We've got the bike path going right along Broadway, and there's people turning into the hotel space, the conference center space. And there's been, you know, rumblings about potentially building like a bridge or something, you know, out over Thirteenth, so that the cars and the bikes don't have to intercept. I wonder if those 2 ideas couldn't be somehow combined, so that the connection literal connection between downtown and the hill is really thought through and ends up promoting carless traffic to the hill or downtown from the hill. That kind of thing.

[83:11] So there's there's that that's an example of maybe that wouldn't necessarily be automatically thought of as part of the community engagement. That would happen. You know. But here you go alright soup. So love to have at least one, and at most 2 of you serve on an advisory group. Along with the other District Board representatives to. but I I don't think the work will be terribly cumbersome. I think it's going to be a lot of You know. We're doing documents, provide some feedback, some meetings to here, we're, you know, have a consultant on board at some point, you know, sitting with them and and give them the guidance and then respond to feedback. So

[84:08] our goal is to not make this a burden, but make it effective and efficient, so wants to get in with us and spend a little more time on it over the next year and a half. You book just where the expectations and hours we haven't really mapped that out yet. So if you get in with now, you can help us design, likely, probably monthly or every month. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. I would expect, with some materials to review in advance. so kind of like what's already on. Just I think I think that when you refer to volunteers before you're referring to me. And so I think my name was on that list, because I'll just confirm that I can, now that you've seen it against very well, exactly print.

[85:01] And yeah, really appreciate it. Forcing alright. Will that include this manners and staff? Excellent! Thank you. All appreciate it. That brings us to managing commissioners. First thing up is the you can't see by monthly meeting updates. So thank you, Chris and staff for allowing us to have or enabling, I guess, empowering a every other month kind of informal conversation about matters before the Commission. We had our first meeting last month. Andrew and I attended and it was a great way of us kind of keeping momentum going on a variety of subjects that are happening particularly around. The the University Hill Commission. I think it went well, I don't know, Andrew, if you had any thoughts here, either. I think it's a good idea at this moment for us to continue doing that just because there is so many things so many moving parts happening. I know it helped me stay prepared for this meeting. I'm not sure if it was helpful to Staff, and I'd love to hear thoughts around that here as well

[86:19] both. I don't speak for the team, but personally, I find a regular eating. Some chicken keeps us accountable and and on task it's an opportunity to share and have it be a little bit more informal and get some feedback from someone who's interested in involved to make sure that we're also ready prepared for the more formal meeting. So I would love to hear from you. I completely agree that I think it was helpful just to get back in to the project. Make sure that we're communicating well, and that if there's a need for us to like, get some advice from boots on the ground we have that. So it's great.

[87:00] I think one of the the things I wanted to make sure to express the commission is that this is an informal meeting. We don't necessarily have a formal agenda. We're not trying to do anything other than touch base. What? What's going on? What have we done in the last month? That kind of thing. So that it's really just a way of continuing communications and moving things forward. The one thing I'm gonna point out is the next one is literally a week from today. which seems so, I think it may need to be adjusted. Yeah, there's one in a month, too. So maybe either one of them next week is just not out. We'll send the communication out to everyone. Oh. and there might be something with the meeting. Recurrence logic. If you modify one event, it still contains all the other events.

[88:02] But yeah, we will not be having one next week. And so the first one it was me and Andrew, the next one will be me until I think so may actually be in June. Now. Do you have any questions, Danica, about what this is, I know that you're literally an hour in on this whole thing. So like, just an agenda check in yeah, basically, everybody. No, there is actually an agenda setting meeting that happens, and the chair and vice chair try to go to that. This is specific to you can receive business, and it's literally just a check in an informal check in between formal meetings. because we only need once every other month. And so, being able to do that is, we we just instituted. This is helping us make sure that we're communicating in the same terminology that we're the same. Priorities are being kept month over month over month.

[89:11] We are finding that meeting every other month was preventing us from then having more informal conversations, say, Okay, where are we with this? Who's doing? What? How are we gonna get there? So commissioners talking in business at the same time? And so really, when you're not meeting support, you're meeting as passionate community volunteers who happen to be commission members who are interested in the topics of the work. And so it's an opportunity to do more of a deeper dive, and just the happenings of of the department, and and you can't see related work sounds great as long as it's not over urgent to staff. That was the the meeting, they tell tell. And myself and Chris had a meeting to basically say, How can we cause there's so much happening with hell. How can we just keep the momentum moving without breaking any open meeting rules or overburdening staff? And I think that this was a good suggestion. By by, Chris, to help us

[90:16] realize that that goal realize that vision. So doesn't sound like, you guys have to do all this work or an agenda or minutes, you just get to chat. Yeah, I like it. That sounds like a great opportunity also, maybe, to meet up on the hill and walk and talk. I don't know if that's every other month second Tuesday. so you'll still see an update on your and we rotate. So the chair goes to all of them. But we rotate alphabetically through the other members.

[91:08] Yep. we're gonna start posting on the hotline questions. Personal context. You you can't cease to meet monthly. So we had moved to every other month, but you know it felt like, especially with so much going on. There were pieces of this result in lieu of returning to a monthly formal meeting. And this was our so yeah, monthly formal might have been onerous for both commissioners and staff. You know, we may end up returning to that place, depending on what happens with 4 Fourteenth Street lot discussions and development. At that point we'll have to kind of pull back on the table like what's really going on

[92:03] to light solution. Okay. moving into Moxie Hotel, opening this on the agenda. But I don't remember exactly. I think we were. I think we were meeting today, and the hotel supposed to open tomorrow. But that's not the case. It's supposed to open the twenty-threer like, Jake said. And I was asking about a party and sounds like they're not gonna do that. But maybe at their at their meet week. They were gonna do a big open until August, like a brand opening party. They it may not be. I imagine they want to get people in those hotel rooms and not divert the energy away. It has been a long haul. What's slow down the but the last note to sleep from it, or was it they just wanted to hear? I don't know exactly. I'm not really involved day to day, but there is some permitting stuff. There's

[93:07] We just got the awning permit last Thursday for city Council, you know. They go to city council to get a revocable license for the awning. You know there's just a lot, and it's just because it goes over the sidewalk. And the liquor license went through really? Well, though, went well. And is it, Sarah, and spoke. Couldn't support it. We had some problems in the chat liquor license, the Hill Neighbors, I know. Yeah, I I think it's just been. I I don't know. I mean, maybe they're having their own problems. But it's it's a big, it's a really complicated project on a really small site the 3 road surrounding it. I mean, it's probably one of the tightest construction projects. So.

[94:00] But I saw the landscaping going in. Oh, well, we'll have to make that happen. That's what I was asking, Matt. Travel, and I'm like, when do we? You know I want to invite all you all when there is a party. But the lobbies, gorgeous emota, did the art. So it's got local artists. It's just really pretty. I think rooms are small small means like guys sick about it without soapless. Nobody can really party in the room, so they've got to go out. Well, no, the rooms are really small. I think the lobby is really big, and lobby is just really cool, and there's like so many more meeting rooms that I had envisioned like big banquet rooms and meeting rooms. And the other thing I was saying is that what I love is that every view from each side of it is different. You get this beautiful view downtown boulder.

[95:22] a really cool built view of the we get the epic flat irons. You get the mountains, and then you get the hill like you can see the hill, and then you can see the university so like literally, you could kind of pick a different landscape that I don't think you experience like the 4 seasons of boulder. So that was really nice and the hot tubs really small. He is really small. So they had some major options. It's all in building. So it was super complicated. She was actions wrong. They did incredible job on that design. So I'm ready to go and celebrate. But I I think it's just a hard project.

[96:01] and trying to build something on Broadway. It's not easy with customer once in generation. Yes, once in a generation project for sure and nobody. And they didn't get the hopping sign. Didn't talk to you. Yeah. they didn't. The the developer didn't want the hot pink side. No, the city said, it's fine. That's what boxy does. Yeah. And the developer didn't want. They wanted classy, and so they won. They got the bronze. It's classy, but still out fun. Thank you for the update. Yeah, I'll share more. But he did save my twenty-third, so I don't know. It's not like a weekend

[97:00] Thursday. So Thursday, so. okay, anything else around Boxy Hotel before I move on to the Fourteenth Street lot activation for sea football season. you touched on this in your presentation, and I think that we've been all very curious about what can happen. Help support ideas around that. Given a recent press about the sea football teams, maybe the final season possibly today. But is there anything that this Commission can do to support your work there in terms of figuring out how we can activate the Fourteenth Street live. I mean, from my perspective, I think we're open to creative strategies. There. We did receive a proposal from a design firm recently that we weren't super stoked. I don't think it would be engaging or activating enough with the use student population? and so I'm actually chatting with someone tomorrow about that proposal to see how maybe we can

[98:07] revise it and make it for the Fourteenth Street we'll have, but I'm open to ideas. Would love to do something there this summer. We have a parklet that's some storage, you know, or dining park that I was brainstorming today. Can we put that there and do something creative? But I'm I'm open to feedback. But it sounds like everyone asking, Chris, you said the city is not really trying to prove it's it's up to somebody to come up, step up, get it like you'll work with them if they do, and we can bring some resources to the table and make try to make the process as easy as possible. But we don't want to be part of the nurse. It's like it's still the new territory for us. Is this something that we should be getting involved with is a boulder with

[99:00] using Miliano and share serving power well, with something. That would probably I. She seemed to be reaching out to us and complaining us how she can help us. So bad idea to try and use that maybe an intersection between visible and, you know, like the Alumni Association, like they mentioned before who basically plans. Yeah, maybe that's what we should do on the next meeting. What's the goal of the parking lot like engagement? What's the purpose? Is it just to bring people to the hill. And like, just, kinda is it to? Yes, okay. So it was one of the recommendations that came out of the Ui report from last year was, instead of focusing on trying to turn around a big redevelopment of that personal right now. Focus on some of these other things, the connections and the work that we have been doing in the way finding and use the in between time to do soft activations of space. That might translate into a different conversation about how

[100:15] we want to use that space, because there has been a lot of conversation around. We need to make sure that you're building revenue generated parking on that space because it's our last opportunity to do so. But the you all that report suggests that maybe we'll discover different uses of the space in between time, for we move into that new space conscious, I mean, I guess it seems like a conflict, because parking is probably the best revenue generator. I don't know. I think parking revenues, heart. I'm I work with church that is across from. See you, and they create insane amounts of revenue around their parking space. So it's hard like, what can you do that also generates revenue to match that. Do you need to match it? I don't know.

[101:02] And and what is soft activation? You know what? What is the it's we don't currently sell parking permits on the Fourteenth Street, but doesn't mean we can't. We do not have any of that. We, any of our city, manage laws. We don't do any special event rates and utilization during summer months currently is really low on the Fourteenth Street. So it's not really actually generating a lot of revenue during. Okay, so you would be competing with some of the high is that. And I mean what you just described. It's, it seems, sounds like we're missing a huge economic opportunity. Can we? Can we do? I'd say, that's something we are been interested in. It is not a If we were to go down that route. you all surface the Advisory Board of Directors of Uhugit. So we would definitely need to make sure that that Council is on board, as the actual board of directors of Eugene. And that's not something that we've heard from them in the past. We've tried to charge for weekend parking $3 flat rate, or our downtime. Rogers, our busiest day in our downtime. Rogers is Saturdays.

[102:20] and right now we're getting all the way that parking week for free, and we've been unsuccessful on that. So we're not. I'd say that we're very open to that possibility. so you could just pull up into that parking lot and pay like the daily rate where everybody else is charging like $50 or 100 $50. Unless it's a Sunday that's free. There's a cap. But in that time that you can stay in that that says there's a cap on the that law has pretty long. Yeah. Doesn't have a one. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And if it's after 7 months down free. So we are definitely not

[103:02] realizing all of our revenue opportunities. In that lot, for sure. But I would say that. Well, I would say that the Fourteenth street.is never gonna solve our perking and access related challenges. On how that that even if we were to build only parking there, we would still have parking access related challenges on the hill. So that's the that's part of this conversation that we want to be having is what is the long term vision? And how do we move toward that? There is a suggestion in the report that university is our next great pedestrian space. and what does you know? How do we? If that is true? That's conversation. We want to have with the steps that we're taking in that direction. So more to come on the conversation. certainly there, there is money on that. We leave on the table as the city of Boulder. In our management of all of the parking that we we manage because we

[104:06] we try to balance the revenue possibilities with the needs and loss of the business communities that we're serving. There's a lot of different feelings about. How much we should be charging for parking in that room. Well, I I don't. I'm new to this thing, so I just it feels like anything you do. There, you don't want to detract from the other hill businesses. So to me it's like a come here and get something to go there like it's a check in here and get. I don't know something to go to the businesses and not like doing. I just can't see me like Come to the pop up something on Fourteenth street parking lot like, it's like, we're trying to create something when we're already trying. Not don't have enough business on the other businesses, so I don't know why, I don't know. I'm trying to see what I don't know what that would be.

[105:00] I appreciate you, Ali. I'm on. And you, Ali, I'm presenting it you all tomorrow, but like sometimes like, Oh, let's have soft like, have fun. Things sounds great. But what what are those? And what is the purpose like? Is it to get people to the other businesses? And if so, like we don't want them to linger at the Fourteenth Street? We want that to be a this gateway of some sort, and like doing. And then you, I mean, did you do something with blind scooters, and like to? You know. I don't know, like do different parking on the weekends or the bike thing I'm really interested in. How bike? Yeah, the hill is not a bike friendly place. So how do you? Maybe there's something around that. and that is something. So some of the proposals that have been entertained is there a miniature draw application? Or maybe there is a pump track, you know, some what's a unique draw to this space that that makes people think, oh, I want to go to the hill today. Because there's this thing

[106:10] like an activity or game that helps students and residents formal competition. Ohio, like 20 years ago, like you could do something like that, I know. But you can't have this. So I'm guessing. Bless you guys, so do you get a link somewhere? Yeah. And that's amazing. And again, we're trying to create space for folks who are excited to do because we do have activations on the hell that we've had the snow boarding demonstrations and skateboard demonstrations, and want to empower and enable folks who are motivated to to make those unique things happen. But we just don't. We don't have capacity on our staff to do the doing on that. In that space we do have the ability to incentivize and and make as easy as possible. the work for folks who are really excited about doing the type of activation.

[107:11] How did sorry? How did you publicize this act? So it sounds like you asked for proposals for people to be interested in using that space, to do something to create revenue for themselves is that we didn't even get to that point. Oh, yeah, that. So, you know. Do you have the background on how we got? We got a proposal? We haven't come from solicitation process. We're right now just sort of fielding other things in the community that we see with a line trying to bring them in. And the concept being that you know, there's a lot of evidence about lost leader concepts, feeding, business feeding activity. And so it's along those lines is when we see those opportunity. I think eventually might get to like actually soliciting proposals. But one of the things that's sort of a weird truth about lost leader is that it's gotta be individualized for the area.

[108:08] And so there actually has to be a little bit of digging into uses. For instance, you know, if we were to do something over the summer in this location. It might be something about families and reintroducing family activity to the hill which I know in the past has been something that's, you know, been a savings challenge. And so, because of all those nuances, W. What our focus has been right now is on the short term things about. You know the the crosswalk and the the tree canopy, and things like that. And so I think well, if we find a great opportunity, we're open to it and and pursuing it. But we need to design a program. If we're going to set up proposals that you know, sort of in response to the location. But I think one of the context for this, when when this discussion came up, was the Uli idea. But there was also the idea of. For example, during a football game. If we were able to put a screen up there and have people actually watch the game that would actually keep that would cause tailgating, for example, to occur on the hills. Then you've got that foot traffic

[109:13] walking around, going to restaurants and things like that. And so that's just a unique one off, you know. If you, if you've already got this giant event going on. how can we capitalize on that? And we're also talking about that in relation to the Dead and Company shows that we're happening where it was like. Is there any way that that could be a thing that we could use that space to have participants in this giant show that's happening at Stadium end up in the brain lock this year. We're gonna have Tyler chilters, and then Odessa at at the stadium. It's gonna bring in 50, 55,000 people per show. Is there a way of there being an activation of Hill that's really attracting people. And so there's a space there that's happening within company.

[110:03] Bbsd was able to create a shakedown street a space where independent vendors could set up. And that thing was the circus. And practically, I mean, there's many people there more crowded than the creek fest. Frankly. And so is there a way of doing that on the help? Yeah. And don't don't think that you're like so new to this. We're really just grappling with these questions and trying to figure out how to do this, you're thinking is so helpful because I haven't thinking that way. You said, some things here that have really got me thinking about what we should try to do or or not. Yeah, that's a really interesting example about pst, yeah, they can do it kind of happens spontaneously. They are not subjected to same city regulations. When it comes to licensing. And some of it. some of the activity occurs downstream.

[111:09] Okay, yeah, I think that's interesting. It's a tough space. I mean, I think that I'll definitely think about it. I think we may wanna as as things may occur to us about what we would want to do in this space, we should start sharing some ideas with one another outside of you know. Maybe you know you and I have conversation about this for some ideas around so that we can then bring it back to the Commission officially and start talking about some of these things. The thing I'm concerned about. So our next meeting is isn't until July, actually. So if we're gonna try to do anything in time for, say, football season. we're we need to vote now that raises the question. I know you're not party players and see you is excellent during parties. Right? Is there a discussion to be had with them?

[112:07] We've got this space, is there? Do you have any interest in activity, and we've had that conversation with them. They have their own spaces, or we can just in the meantime booze price on the event parking. I mean it. It makes sense to me. I'm gonna go back to something you almost asked, I think didn't get to ask, which is, if we wanted to do that. What is the process? Should I suggest a motion to increase parking to $50 per space to be able to live? Say, we'd wanna do some analysis. The last thing we wanna do is pricing in a way, because there's there is a ton of free parking on the L on Saturdays in general, and so I don't even. And so we do charge for parking. It'd be interesting to see if people, even there currently and then at the rates that we are charging, which are the standard rates when there is

[113:04] so much free parking elsewhere, but without picking a price. I would support looking at doing special event, parking for that for the shows in the summer. I mean again, the church that they they break in a lot of money on those event days, and I don't. We could say, let's be competitive. We're not gonna but I don't see any reason why we couldn't do special pricing. I would support that. We will certainly look into it dependent. and it would be good to have a board action if we don't need to. Necessarily have a board action, probably to to make that happen. But but a motion to explore is that, Andrew? Why don't you go ahead? Stated formally. I think you know, I propose a motion. Make a motion. You're gonna make a motion to

[114:07] for staff to explore possibility of special event parking, pricing for the Fourteenth Street live. Just leave it there. I'll second that, and I will call for a vote. Then, on this motion, unless there's further discussion about this. Okay, let's call her vote all in favor. So there you go. You got what you need to kind of move to that portal, but without giving it too many teeth. Right? We're not dictating there. I appreciate that discussion and dedicate again, just to reiterate you were literally entering a conversation by doing tap here that we're really just starting to grapple with. So yeah, your thoughts are really helpful. Special event pricing. Maybe there's an incentive to get to go visit the businesses and get valid, you know, Val. Validation, validation. I know that takes down power. You don't know how you would

[115:07] do that, but maybe there's a way that you could say, oh, we'll take $5 off your price if you go visit a business or something I don't know just trying to, you know, keep people or attract them to that part of town after the game, the adult adulting thing that we're we're hoping to achieve right with all these hotels. Well, and I think one of the big differences between the parking lots that you're talking about with your clients is that that's literally right next door. So that's the one other Fourteenth Street lot. A lot of people have been lived here many years. No idea even exists. So there are some challenges in terms of activation that. I don't think those parking lots have the same same issues with no, but I think there are people that will pay to know that they just have a safe place to park, and don't have to worry about it getting towed, or whatever happens, there's people that will do that. There's lots of people will

[116:06] run around and move their car, you know, to avoid paying a fee for sure. Alright, we have reached the end of our agenda, and we've also reached the end of the allotted time for this commission meeting. Is there anything else that we wanted to bring up at this moment. The one thing I'm gonna bring up is that our next meeting is on July ninth, which means, if we're doing it every other monthly formal meeting. I'm wondering if we do one in June the next one May August. Great, and that's already happened. Excellent! Moving forward. Great alright! Is there anything else meeting adjourned. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Please take cookies. I'll say something.