February 10, 2025 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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[0:03] Perfect. Is there anybody in the waiting room. 7 people. Okay. We are starting recording. So we may begin. Yeah. So let's go ahead and let them in. Oh, they're already all in. Oh, they're already on. Okay. I can't see them too many. It is 6 o'clock February 10.th I am calling to order the february 2025, meeting of the Transportation Advisory Board. We will move to technical rules, Veronica. and then get the meeting going. All right. Can everyone see my screen? Nice? Thank you for joining the Transportation Advisory Board meeting to strike a balance between meaningful, transparent engagement and online security, the following rules will be applied. This meeting has been called to conduct the business of city of boulder activities that disrupt delay or otherwise interfere with the meetings are prohibited. The time for speaking is limited to 3 min. No person shall speak except for when recognized by the person presiding, and no person shall speak for longer than the time allotted.

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[2:07] Only the host and individuals designated by the host will be permitted to share the screen during the meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, Trini. I saw you were unlike the visitor side, and you were here. Normally, we would move to approval of the minutes. But the January minutes are not available right now, so we will. We'll deal with them next month. So that being said, we will now just open it up for public comment. We have no public hearing items tonight. So this is your chance as a member of the public to come. speak to us raise things that you think we need to be aware of. and you'll have. Veronica is going to be keeping time for you and calling on you. So go ahead, Veronica. All right, Lynn. I'm gonna ask you to unmute yourself and confirm. You're able to speak.

[3:02] Well, let's just think this through jobs housing balance. I don't think the Transportation Advisory Board really has a lot of control over the cost of housing in boulder, except indirectly. Okay. Which is significant, too. But as long as you're providing a pathway for more and more people to be here, the question is to be here, or to be going somewhere else. Have you ever heard the terminology? Doichheit? It's a Yiddish term, and it means hearness, or I always knew what doikite was, but I didn't know there was a word for it. It's like, wherever you are, there you'll be, you know, so like it doesn't matter if you travel some far away. You're still there, you know. Wherever you are, there you'll be. That's what it means.

[4:11] I really love the word. and I'm glad there was word for what I was thinking of my whole life. Pretty neat. But the problem is, if you're moving people always, then where are you moving them, and why? If they have their 15 min neighborhoods, they shouldn't need to go anywhere. But if the housing cost is too expensive, and they're just having to travel into boulder to work. Then that's putting a great demand on our. you know, transportation system. If they're rich enough to afford to have Amazon come every 5 min to bring them every little thing that they want at their house. That's tough on our asphalt, because we haven't got enough money for all of that, you know, just driving down 6th Street, Tila, you know it's like potholes and stuff.

[5:11] So what to do. And I think the best thing we can do is let the developers pay and and that's really the cost. Mechanism is really the only way that you can control the growth and any in any respect really and you know you want to stick it to the taxpayers or to the residents. Then it's going to just get accelerated up anyway, because it's the more expense for them the more they can absorb it and it. And it continues the elevation of the price and the wealth disparity. So please do something. Let the developers pay. They can handle it. They really.

[6:09] Thank you, Lynn. Some dramatic Oscars music. I love it. It's the default sounds, you know. It looks like we have someone else. Andrew, you're raising your hand. Would you confirm you're able to speak. Hi! Can you hear me? Yes, perfect Good evening board members. My name is Andrew Brandt, and I just wanted to introduce myself. I am an applicant for the board, so I just wanted to let you know that I have been watching your meetings and reading your board docs, and I appreciate the work that you have all done and wanted to introduce myself. And I will be sending you all an email and and asking to talk to you about the work that you've done and what your priorities are for the coming year. So that was it. I have no other comment, and thank you very much for the work that you're doing.

[7:12] Awesome. Thank you, Andrew. Thanks, Andrew. Does not look like anyone else, is raising their hand. Okay. Oh, we have someone. Yeah, I was assuming Trish. Would you be able to confirm? Oh, think! Tricia's hand went down. So I'm gonna give it a few more seconds to see. Oh, there we go! Alright, Trish! Would you be able to confirm? You're able to speak. Yes, I was wondering how that happened. I see you just sent me a control. You can hear me now. Yes, perfect. Excellent! Thank you. Shall shall I start my 3 min.

[8:02] Yes. Thank you. My name is Trish. And why am I here? In December I learned that the city is planning to promote the 14th and walnut bike and ride shelter as a secure bike parking location. That insight made me very excited, and I wanted to learn more. I did provide a deck yesterday. I want to share with you. It's a collection of my observations. As I sought to understand how the shelters work. I didn't expect to encounter a confusing process, and after gaining access to the shelters, I'll tell you I was disappointed. Why did I include bike theft metrics in the deck that I sent you well, on behalf of Bike Boulder, our advocacy team. We've been doing a lot of metrics, and I want to share with you that boulder bike. Theft trends are on the rise, both inside and outside the shelters. In 2024, they rose 15% to boulder police reports over 2023. So things are getting worse. Unfortunately.

[9:04] here's the high level observations that I have for you. I know there was a lot of detail in those decks for the 14th and walnut location. The old signage that had been there a while has been recently removed. When you go to the shelter, as of today, there's no information regarding access maintenance or contacts over the past month. I've observed conditions in the bike and ride getting increasingly more littered with broken lighting, just walking in feels scary, and as a woman I would not feel safe, using the shelter day or night, it is easy for others to tailgate through the turnstile or the alternate door entrance. Once inside, there is no requirement to badge out. It seems possible that someone could be lurking inside the shelter. so I found that pretty scary. My understanding is that over a number of years the cards have been lost, stolen, or potentially duplicated. Using that access method.

[10:02] Older cards were issued to all locations, not just 3 locations, and because of this the shelter has likely been compromised, and would be hard to correct the security without major upgrades regarding the second shelter that I visited Table mesa. This smaller shelter seems more open, the racks being used are a single row of 7 inverted use on the cage exterior. A sign clearly indicates that the shelter is for long term secure bicycle storage. however, over the past week 3 bikes were stolen, each bike was secured with a combination of U locks and cabling. More than 70% of the bike racks at this same location are installed as wall hanging, and they are not compatible with modern e-bikes or heavy bikes, so very little of the shelters being used that's very similar to the shelter at 30th and diagonal, by the way, where I saw no usage whatsoever. And, by the way, the large shelter at 14th and walnut

[11:04] I observed 5 bikes in there one day 7 bikes in there another day. It's very lightly used. Thank you very much. Trish. That was an impressive slide deck that you sent. I really want to thank you for bringing these issues to our attention. I have no intention of putting Staff on the spot on any of this. You've highlighted a couple of, I think, critical intersecting problems. And I will, I think, touch back on on your comments and your slide deck when we talk about future agenda topics at the end of this meeting. because I do think that you've raised a few things that are worthy of investigation and response. So that's not going to happen right? The second. But thank you for highlighting that for us. It doesn't look like we have anyone else raising their hand, Heila. Okay, going, going almost gone alright. We're gonna close the public hearing or the public comment period.

[12:10] Okay, so with that, then we will move on to Item 5 of the agenda, or I suppose it's the 4th one. The staff briefing on the shared micromobility program. Thanks to. I'm just gonna pass that over to Steven to introduce. This is Valerie Watson. Interim transportation mobility director. Thanks. Yeah, thanks, Valerie. So name Steve's transportation planning manager. I'm excited to introduce the shared micromobility program Update to you all tonight. We're here to share the outstanding work. The team is conducting to grow ridership and continually iterate to improve the program for riders in the community. It's now been over one year since the Charity scooter pilot was extended to a citywide program, and we wanted to provide you all with an update. There isn't a decision in front of the board tonight, but the team will be asking for feedback and clarifying questions about the program as outlined in your memo. So with that, I'll hand it over to Allison Moore Farrell, who manages the program.

[13:09] Wonderful. Thank you so much, Steven. And I just want to confirm. Can folks see my screen. Yes. Thumbs up. Good. Okay, great. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much, Stephen. Good evening, Tab members. I'm Allison Moore Farrell, senior transportation planner with transportation and mobility. Today I'll be sharing with you an update on the city shared micromobility program. So a key action in our transportation master plan is to expand access to shared electric micromobility. Micromobility refers to ways of getting around for smaller scale travel like scooters, skateboards, and bikes. We work with b-cycle to provide shared e-bikes and lime to provide shared E-scooters, shared micromobility offers yet another multimodal transportation choice to advance our goals around reduced vmt and greenhouse gas emissions, and often serves as a 1st and last mile solution to connect, to transit.

[14:04] Let's start with a little bit of history. So back in 2011 the city worked with b-cycle to bring shared bikes to boulder. In the early years it was subsidized by the city to get the program established as the performance of the system proved strong. We transitioned to a privatized model in 2021, where be cycle is allowed to operate in the city under a use agreement and pays per trip fees to the city, that we in turn invest back into public infrastructure things like wayfinding signage and education campaigns as of 2024 B cycle had approximately 300 e-bikes in operation in boulder and over 50 docking stations. Today, B-cycle continues to be a valued partner in our community. I'm going to share a lot of interesting data over the next few slides. And while we'll walk through this data fairly quickly, we can circle back and dig in into any of it after the presentation. Some of this was also in the memo that was shared with you last week.

[15:00] while ridership slowly grew in the early years of b-cycle ridership significantly increased in 2021 and in every year since. So this is primarily due to 2 factors in 2021 B cycle finished their electrification efforts and they fully transitioned to an electric fleet and also in 2021, every Cu student began receiving A B cycle membership through their student fees. So though the student membership accounts for a significant increase, there's still an increase in ridership outside of student memberships in a city of just over 100,000 residents. We had over 777,000 shared e-bike trips last year with over 25,000 unique riders, which is a pretty incredible amount. I wanted to share some impressive e-bike ridership numbers. and in order to compare similar metrics between citywide expansion of E-scooters, which is lime, which I'll share in a moment. This data is pulled from September 2023 to December 2024. So a 16 month period. Because that's when E-scooters went citywide. So we wanted that data to be comparable.

[16:12] So I point this out because the previous slide identifies the data by year. So I just wanted to distinguish that for you over the course of those 16 months there were nearly 1.1 million rides taken by B cycle, with an average of 2,200 trips per day, and B cycle riders tend to take trips that last an average of 15 min and about 2 miles. and as we shared in the memo, there are recent studies from Nacdo and Napsa that show that approximately 40% of shared micromobility trips replace vehicle trips. Given that estimate, it can be inferred that shared e-bike trips over the past 16 months have removed approximately 440,000 vehicle trips from Boulder streets. Now, the other half of our shared micro mobility system is E-scooters. Lime shared E-scooters 1st operated under a pilot program starting in 2021, in which they were allowed to operate east of 28th Street, and after that successful one year Pilot, the city expanded the operational area for Lime citywide. In Fall 2023

[17:18] lion shared. E-scooters are also allowed to operate in boulder under a similar agreement with the city, with similar fees and the system for E-scooters is currently a dockless model with geofencing technology, regulating use and parking in high activity areas. And, as I mentioned earlier, the city conducted a 1 year pilot of charity scooters using lime as the scooter provider, and after conducting an evaluation and report boards and commissions, as well as city council supported that citywide expansion, and the geographic area of that expansion was about threefold. So we expanded the scooters from 300 to 900 over that period. This expansion unlocked many destinations that were not reachable in the pilot that had limited operations to areas east of 28th Street.

[18:04] and, as shown in this animation citywide expansion made a significant impact on overall ridership. During the pilot phase ridership grew modestly. Then, after citywide expansion, we saw an exponential increase as you see in these numbers. our highest ridership month was October 2024, with over 120,000 total trips, and in this model routes identified in dark purple signify more ridership. And we'll note that a little bit later in this model. And this information can also be seen on the regional online dashboard provided by Dr. Cog. That's publicly available again. You'll see here that the citywide expansion we saw significant increase 2023 ended up with 338,000 rides, whereas 2024 ended with 692,000 charity scooter rides. And it's really important to note that boulder community members are replacing vehicle trips at a high rate compared to other comparable cities around the country to share some comparison in Boise, Idaho, which is approximately twice the population of Boulder, and also has a large university. They experienced 560,000 rides in 2024, so less than boulder for a larger city.

[19:25] and, like I mentioned above, in order to compare the similar metrics between E-bikes and E-scooters. This data is pulled from September 2023 to December 2024, which is when E-scooters expanded citywide. So over the course of those 16 months there were nearly 1 million rides taken on E-scooters shared E-scooters with an average of 1,950 trips per day. Lime riders tend to take a little shorter trips than e-bikes that last an average of 6 min, and approximately one mile. And again, as we shared from the national studies with the 40% mode shift

[20:04] over the past 16 months these scooters have removed approximately 380,000 vehicle trips from Boulder Streets. And again, this is, I have the link to the public dashboard from Dr. Cog listed here. It's also in the memo that's available at any time. Here again we see the significant growth I mentioned. The usage rates are considerably lower during the colder winter months, and higher usage is commiserate with nicer weather. See you, boulder school schedule football schedule usage is typically highest in September and October. The highest ridership month we've seen so far is October 2024, like I mentioned, with over 120,000 rides. We see the highest ridership days on cu football game days which should not be a surprise. You'll see the days noted here. Those those spiked days, you see, are football game days from fall 2024, and each of those days accounted for approximately 6,000 trips in a day. And this is citywide that you're seeing.

[21:16] Now, Cu lime and the city work together to strategize and implement appropriate game day management techniques. Lime identifies specific routes for riders that are geofenced, and they have additional staff to accommodate that increased demand. Events are highly managed, and showcase all the tools that we have really in our toolkit, working in tandem together, and we continue to build upon what we've learned on these high ridership days. And it's important to keep in mind, because on days when our community is experiencing this influx of visitors. These mobility devices can help folks get around town and allows the city to scale transportation needs when necessary.

[22:00] I know I've shared some impressive numbers, and the efforts completed by Lyme staff and city staff. However, I also want to highlight that this is still a relatively new program. That is a need and will continue to be in need of monitoring and iterations. I want to share community feedback, both positive and negative as well as lessons we've learned thus far. Most community members we've connected with agree that shared micromobility as a policy and is a way to meet city goals. We've met some challenges, however, with parking behavior, specifically parking on sidewalks with being a challenge. This is especially concerning for those in our disability community. We regularly work with Cpwd and the National Federation of the Blind to address issues and brainstorm solutions. Lime is also working on technology. To prevent this. we're also working with other types of fines and warnings that I'll touch base on a little bit later. That could serve as a stick as well as incentives for good parking behavior. Changing this rider behavior is one of the primary challenges we see

[23:06] riding behavior and following rules of the road in some neighborhoods is also a challenge and affordability can be a challenge. In some cases, while one ride is typically not cost. Prohibitive as a daily rider, using this as a commuting tool affordability can become a challenge. We've learned a lot of lessons over the past few years with micromobility and specifically E-scooters. We've learned that communication is key both focus communication for scooter users, but also communications for all community members, riders, and non riders to be seeing the same information, so that folks are really seeing all of that at the same time and understanding the rules and information of the program. We've learned that proactive and reactive parking enforcement is key. We've worked with city parking enforcement teams and our urban rangers to identify and report Miss parked scooters. And this has really helped us understand where potential issue areas are that we can be proactive about. We've also implemented mandatory parking zones which I'll expand upon in just a moment.

[24:15] We've learned that data, driven decisions allow us to understand more clearly what issues folks are sharing with us anecdotally, and the backend dashboard that I mentioned that Dr. Cog hosts for jurisdictions that have micro mobility allows us to be both proactive and reactive. With these program iterations. We've learned that we need to allow and accommodate the need for new infrastructure for this new mode. You may have seen some of these new parking crowds around the city, and I'll I'll show some pictures later. But we have developed some some new infrastructure. To accommodate this with these challenges and community feedback, we've made a number of program iterations during the citywide expansion in Fall 2023. We began with some of the technical tools to manage operations and parking.

[25:09] so some of these include no go zones, which is locations where scooters cannot be used. You cannot ride in the zone. The scooter loses power, and you have to physically move it outside that zone. For example, Pearl Street, Mall, on the bricks, parts of the Cu campus. Those are all no go zones. The slow zones are locations where scooters have a Max speed of 10 miles per hour instead of the regular 15 miles per hour. So we have some of these, and I'll show in a moment some some maps of where those are on 13th Street, on University Hill, and some of the streets downtown that intersect with Pearl Street Mall. We have some no parking zones where you are not allowed to park your E-scooter, you will be fined, and your meter will continue to run. We also have mandatory parking zones and mandatory parking corrals which really dovetail together to create some proactive parking solutions, and I'll touch on those in depth in a minute.

[26:13] So these mandatory parking crowds, also known as lime groves. We have a number throughout the city, and these are the lime groves in downtown boulder, which were implemented in Fall 2023. All of these are above the curb and strategically placed locations. city staff and lime staff considered likely origins and destinations of trips, including activity centers and the downtown transit station. And we've seen good compliance in these locations. We have regular conversations with downtown boulder partnership regarding any issues that their members see, and we take that feedback into the consideration as we make iterations. Also in downtown boulder, the team focused on creating virtual low speed zones where E-scooters reduce in speed to 10 miles per hour. So that's the that yellow zone that you see around there.

[27:06] and this map shows the mandatory parking zones and corrals in the University Hill Commercial district and residential neighborhood. This is an area that we've expanded through iterations and working with community members. And in response to ridership and end trip and parking data as well as that community input. We made these changes throughout 2024 and expanded the zone to include not only the commercial district but the majority of the residential neighborhood as well, where we're seeing a lot of that parking and ridership occurring, and the primary aim here was to manage parking in Lime grove, so that riders were not parking scooters on lawns, sidewalks, and other public right away. Given that these lime groves are below the curb, near intersections, they also act as a safety feature. Daylighting intersections without removing vehicle. Parking. Iterations like this are beneficial and also take a great deal of staff effort, including identifying appropriate locations that don't interfere with regular city functions like maintenance and snow removal and emergency operations in a physically constrained neighborhood.

[28:14] Another iteration that has occurred with mandatory parking zones and crowds is the introductions of warnings and fines as a disincentive. If a rider does not park in a crowd, they receive warnings on the 1st offense, and their ride continues to charge, and a $10 fine on the second offense. With this we've seen really good compliance in these areas, and we continue to aim to make data-driven decisions that are informed by community input and we work with lime staff to closely monitor these iterations and again have seen good compliance in this expanded zone. Now I find this slide really interesting. Because these image, these images visually show the impact of mandatory parking zones and corrals in the University Hall neighborhood. So

[29:05] again I it's it's hard to see on here, but that street at the bottom is baseline, and then on the far edge, you have 8th and I think it goes all the way to 16th so you're really seeing that southern part of the University Hill neighborhood. Here the image on the left shows parking prior to any mandatory parking zones or corral. So this is at the very beginning of the citywide expansion. Once the corrals were implemented and geofencing enforced, we see significantly more organized parking in this neighborhood, and this leads to better understanding of appropriate parking for riders and more clarity for all community members. So on the right you'll see the little tags. Those are where mandatory parking corrals exist, and I'll show some images of those on the next few slides, so you can kind of have an understanding of what they look like in the field.

[30:00] In person. But it's helpful to understand here, this is some of this back end information. That we're able to see through this Dr. Cog resource that we have. And we can see this better organization of parking in our mandatory parking zones in our managed areas. So here's some examples of implemented mark implemented parking corrals in the city. As we go throughout the city and identify areas where parking crowds would be appropriate, where there's high ridership, a good deal of folks parking and ending trips. We also look at things like multifamily housing, and and folks who are are using and riding on the scooters. So this photo on the left is actually in front of. We saw there was a lot of end trips there, and this is actually right in front of a sorority house. So that made sense that a lot of folks who are living here in multifamily housing are using this location. So we identified this as an appropriate location for parking crowd

[31:04] on the right side. Here we have a parking corral in downtown boulder, and again, seeing that it is above curb in this location, and we see a lot of that ridership and parking in this area. Here's a few more examples of parking crowds in the University Hill neighborhood again, on the right side. Here we have it in a dense area, where we've seen a lot of ridership and parking, and then on the left side. Here is another parking crowd and an example of one of our lawn signs identifying. This is where you should park. And this information I'll share is also in the app when you're parking. It's very obvious when you're taking a ride and parking. And I took some screenshots here to to demonstrate that. But again, we felt. It's really important to have some of that physical signage as well. So all community members, whether you're riding a scooter or walking your dog

[32:01] you understand the appropriate place for this to be. and Staff recognized, there would be a need to iterate and adjust the program after expansion, and upon hearing from the community and reviewing the usage data. So as citywide expansion progressed, we monitor operations and work with lime to adjust as issues have arisen. Here are some of the screenshots from the in-app messaging in the lime app, and we. We are continually working with lime to make updates in here to communicate clearly with writers. These screenshots show you the slow zone mandatory parking zone and in the downtown area, and that screenshot on the right shows a message saying you did not park in the correct location. Next time you will be fined $10. So this was something that would occur. Show on your screen. If you are parking in a mandatory parking zone, and you did not park in.

[33:09] so I'd like to share a little bit about safety and messaging over the past year. most of Lyme reported incidents were single vehicle falls that did not involve motor vehicle or other scooters. So as we're going through that, let's please keep that in mind. Let's see, I apologize. I jumped ahead there. Compared to relative to the rides, provided there have been few micro mobility reported collisions. and while we recognize that safety incidents are likely underreported as with any mode there. If there's no property damage, or severe injury, this is the information we have from Boulder police as well as from Lyme and MB. Cycle. and in 2024 there were 0 fatalities on the shared micromobility system. So for shared e-bikes in 2024 B cycle reported 16 e-bike safety incidents. Boulder police had 8 e-bike safety incidents reported, and those are

[34:12] those are just e-bikes. Sometimes boulder police is not able to distinguish between shared and e-bikes, so I include them all. To make sure we encompass all of those for shared E-scooters. Lime reported 36 safety incidents and Boulder police reported 19 safety incidents and safety messaging education is a key part of our micro mobility program. We have information on which wheels go, where on our web page and lime also connects in app messaging, demonstrating how to use the scooter where to park it again something we continually work with them on for that in-app messaging. and in addition to the messaging through typical city channels, Staff conducted an education and courtesy campaign over the past few years. In fall 2023, spring, 2024, and we continue to utilize this messaging on socials and lawn signs and out in the community

[35:14] and in concert with the citywide expansion. We, the city, implemented an education and can safety campaign that focused on shared E-scooter usage and parking. So here are some of the messages. That we shared with community members again for both writers and non writers alike. So really everyone can be on the same page there of of where you should be riding, where you should be parking that sort of thing from the onset. Equitable approaches to shared micro mobility has been a priority for the city of Boulder, Lyme and B cycle. Both offer multiple equity focused programs that center on income qualified users per city code. Any provider is actually required to provide 30 min yearly passes to income qualified community members

[36:04] B. Cycle also partnered with the Boulder Library to offer the book a bike program which allows folks to check out B cycle bikes for 7 days at a time through the main library and all boulder housing partners, residents receive free boulder, B cycle, access lime is also required as part of their contract, to have 15% of their fleet available within equity focused areas. So really, allowing for that access to be there. we continue to monitor program performance. So we can iterate and make these data driven decisions that are informed by community insights and input. With shared micromobility, we are fortunate to have a fantastic amount of data provided by B cycle online through this reporting program that I've mentioned. That helps inform improvements and adjustments. This technology is flexible and allows us to be nimble and making any changes to the program.

[37:00] We continue to collect community feedback and partner with B cycle and lime. So we can have a balanced program that aims to meet our city goals and benefit community members. So with that, I'd like to thank you for your time and attention and open the floor up to these questions and any clarification I can provide. Thank you so much. Thank you, Allison. That was terrific, Mike. I see you unmuted. Yeah, I have a couple of questions. I love these systems and I use them when I need to get my bike serviced or my car serviced and it saves couple a round trip trip from somebody to pick me up or something. I 1st of all, I'm wondering about whether these programs are both revenue generators for the city with fees and things like The the lime corrals. Is that an expense that the city

[38:03] pays for, or how does that compare to to the revenues generated. Yes, Mike, that is a wonderful question, and I realize I spent like 5 seconds on that piece of it. So let me share a little bit more. Thank you for the question. Yes, this is actually a revenue generating program with each ride. When this, when the micro mobility program is formalized in 2021. It was required of providers. With each ride to that 15 cents would be sent to the city, so each quarter I invoice the city for those. And we have all of that information on the back end through this this program that I mentioned, and we use that to reinvest in the program. That's the purpose of those funds. So whether that's for education campaigns or infrastructure development for the program, we are able to reinvest those funds into the micro mobility program in terms of the parking crowds for lime and infrastructure for B cycle stations that is, up to the provider, to build those to staff time, and and all of that to build those.

[39:12] At at the direction of the the city. I guess that where to put those. Yes, it's it's something we definitely developed together. So it's it's quite, quite a process. But it's it's actually quite enjoyable. So what we do is again, we'll look at the ridership data parking data identify if any new areas need to be considered. And we need to manage in any other areas. Similar to how we manage parking in some neighborhoods or downtown. Right? So we kind of look at a number of different factors to determine, do we need to create a mandatory parking zone and corrals. and then I'll go ahead and do site visits with Lyme staff and identify appropriate locations. and then we'll bring those through our maintenance staff, our engineering team, boulder, police boulder fire, making sure it's kind of checking all those boxes that we're not. You know it's okay for snow plowing or drainage, or a fire truck turning around. So making sure all of those locations are appropriate with different city departments and regular city functions.

[40:13] and once we determine those locations, they'll go ahead and submit a revocable permit to the city which we will work to approve. 1 1 more question. Yeah. I tend to use lime, because the B cycle is is limited in terms of where you can start and finish a ride. I know. in San Francisco at sometimes they've had a bike sharing programs that are more like lime where you find them parked pretty much anywhere. and I can imagine why you might not want to do that could leave a lot of bikes in places you don't want them. Has there been discussion about that with B cycle or other bike sharing programs.

[41:09] Yeah, it's a great question. So this is a competitive Rfp process that we do every 5 years. So we will be conducting another competitive process in 2026, our last one was in 2021, and that is certainly something that that we could consider. We have found success in kind of this docked and dockless model of docked e-bikes and dockless E-scooters. But it's certainly something we would consider in the future as we continue and grow the program. We also work with a lot of different cities, both regionally and across the nation, to kind of understand the pros and cons of each of those. Again, we've we've discovered over the past few years of this program in in Boulder. It's worked really well to have that docked system for B cycle and you. You can identify exactly where those locations are. And then the dockless system like you mentioned with lime, allows you to have more of that 1st and last mile connection to a wider range of the city. But

[42:11] again, it's this this system, and micro mobility is continuing to evolve, so we certainly consider all angles. There. Thanks. Go ahead! Trini. Alright. Well, thank you so much for your presentation, Allison. That was great. I just have a couple of questions, and I'm really glad that the the fine is working. You know that if they don't. but I'm such a huge fan of positive reinforcement that I'm wondering if there was like an incentive program to behave the way you're supposed to, instead of, you know, charging a fee like a points or rewards. And on that same vine. I was wondering. Well, first, st if you know, because you have all this data, who the main demographic of of what the you know most popular user looks like.

[43:06] are they college students, are they? I mean, who would our target audience? B. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great question. So I'll answer that in a few parts I'm also a fan of positive reinforcement and incentives, and it's certainly conversations we've had with both lime and B cycle. We haven't implemented any of those as as of date. But but that's certainly part of the conversation to have both incentives and disincentives in order to change that behavior, or increase good behavior right? in terms of the demographic data. So the information we have from ride report is a we. We don't have the demographic data in ride report, which is the doctor. Cog back end that we use. But there are a number of different national studies that have really looked into this. So it is typically your your younger demographics under 30, and those studies that I mentioned from Nafta and Napsa do have that information, and I can certainly follow up with you on that to provide that. And we do have that information from those national studies.

[44:17] That's great. Yeah. Cause you can cater whatever this you know, positive reinforcement program could look like depending on who you're targeting right? And finally, I have a last question. So is there a way to track because you can track each trip? Can you track? How fast people were going? Can you track the speeds. That's a good question. So like I mentioned the micro mobility is a max speed of 15 miles per hour, and in the slow zones is the 10 miles per hour. I'm not aware if through our existing back end reporting, we have the information. Are are you thinking on like certain streets, is a certain speed or

[45:00] average. Because, yeah, because we do know that we have a problem with people not really respecting the speed limit, right? Whether it's because they're not aware of it, or you know there's just so many people going so fast on the paths. And so I'm wondering if there's a way again through positive reinforcement to encourage people to to follow these limits. And if we had some way of tracking how fast these people were going, you know that would be. No, yeah, no, that's a great question, especially on paths. Thank you for clarifying that. So I I think this has been shared with tab before of the streetlight data that we use for other modes in the city. However, sometimes it it might not get as granular to that level, and it's also difficult to. I I think it would be close to impossible to identify whether it's like shared e-bike versus personal e-bike and I don't think we have that information through. Write report. But, Steven, correct me if I'm wrong. If you've seen that before.

[46:04] Yeah, we don't have the speed data presented as like one of our regular kind of quick analyses, but that is baked in. If that's of interest, the types of reports we could pull. I'll just reiterate what Alison mentioned that that is the reason why we set the Max speed at 15 miles an hour, which is the speed limit for our bike lanes and pads and trails. To make sure that folks aren't exceeding those speed limits. So. So just to clarify. It's not just the scooters that are capped at that. It's also the e-bikes. Correct. Correct. Yeah. So if you really work, you know, you can pedal a little quicker into an e-bike as we've all experienced. But that's again a reason why we want to make sure that folks are following those 50 mile an hour. Speed limits that are there for good reason. So. Because think about it. I mean, we could average, I mean, depending on the route. We could know, you know what, what?

[47:00] I don't know how often people are speeding and what their general speeds are, and you know, kind of learn from all that behavior on how we can correct it. Yeah. And like Steven mentioned, that is the nice thing about shared micro mobility. And having that oversight is that we can set those speed limits with our providers, which is something that is much more difficult to do for a personal e-bike, for example. Alison, could you cap the speed, I mean, is there a way that they can control it? And like set it to a certain speed maximum. So that is what occurs. Yes. Oh, really. Yes. So just to clarify the the electric assist stops. Providing that assist at that speed. And so it takes considerable physical effort for someone to go faster than that 15 miles per hour, whether it's a scooter or or bike a lime or or B cycle so that I would say, speeding with shared micro ability is pretty rare.

[48:04] 9. During the physical effort it would take to sustain that. Yeah, I'm trying to remember is not that I was trying to speed. So perhaps that's why I wasn't like confronting any limiters. But yeah, I, yeah. Well, that that's okay. So that's awesome. Well, thank you. Darcy, I wanna give you a chance before I grab the talking spoon. Yeah, thank you. Thanks, Allison. I really appreciate all of this data. I don't have any questions. Honestly, I feel like it was very well presented, and I'm quite familiar with both of these programs. And so I don't have any questions. If you know, we can talk a little bit more after question period. Sure. Thanks, Darcy, I'll I'll circle back to you. so yeah, I I loved this presentation. Thank you so much, Alison. There's so much information in there, and I can tell you, paired it way down. If you want any more, we have lots. Totally do. But it's okay. And so I think I heard you correctly. Are you estimating that the micro mobility program has replaced 380,000 vehicle trips in the city of Boulder. Is that the number that I wrote down? Was I listening correctly?

[49:14] So I will share. Yup, let me Tell me more about that number. Yeah, absolutely. And this is why I always preface this with the fact that these are national studies. So they're not sponsored by any of the providers by. So I do always like to preface it with that is there studies done by Nacdo and Napsa. So national studies. So take that as it is right. This wasn't a statistically significant study for the city of Boulder. These are national studies that we are applying to the city of Boulder. So, of course, that is an approximate number. Yeah. And the yeah, thank you, Mike. So correct me, if I didn't get any of the information correct. But yeah, let me pull, pull that back up. And again, this is also in your memo. It is

[50:04] that information. So it is that 40% mode shift of is is what these studies have shown. So for e-bikes, and I just don't want to flip off the numbers. So I'm just looking back for e-bikes over the past 16 months. They have removed. Using that metric. They have removed approximately 440,000 trips from Boulder Streets, and over those same 16 months, September 2023 to December 2024 E-scooter trips shared. E-scooter trips have removed 380,000 vehicle trips from boulder streets. So that would be a grand total of what. Let me do that math really quick for you. Those are different numbers than you have in the Memo.

[51:00] Yes, so those are different numbers, because in the memo it's for the 12 months, and this is. That's what I thought. I apologize. It's it's funny we're going back and forth. I wanted to provide as close to recent data as I could for this and the memo is for the 12 month period of 2024. I wanted to have that comparable. So yes, they are different numbers. So I see? Thank you for noting that. Pointing that out. So that's a total of 820,000 trips. Okay, that's astounding. I'm looking for a better microphone. But I'm walking around my house. When does this information get relayed? And in what form to city council this overall? Not just the number I talked to you about, but the overall, like update. Sure. Well, we have this information listed online, but I'll leave it to Valerie to share that information. Yeah, this is really more of an operational conversation. And so something that that we would really just brief tab on typically and we have not been asked for any kind of update. At council. It's not one of their 10 priorities for for this year. But you know, I think if Tab so wishes

[52:18] that is really the purview of of this board is to advise Council and happy to partner with you if if there's further action that you want to take. Yeah, so this does. Is this working better? It's still kind of. Looking better. Okay, I'll do it. That's better. Yes. So let's let's talk about that. At the at the close of of this I'm gonna carry on with questions. again. I think that the data that we get it's all part of the Rfp. Was part of like the the licensing procedure. In the 1st place, and kudos to staff on like thinking of that, making sure that that was part of it. Do we receive any similar information from Uber and Lyft, or other rideshare companies that are operating in Boulder.

[53:11] I'll hand that off to Valerie. That's not regular data that that we have any kind of agreement with those providers to share. Because they don't need a special license to operate here. Is that correct? Yeah. I wanted to circle back to the the parking the mandatory parking bits. Mandatory parking zones. I I was impressed that they are working that well, I think Trini's right like the financial incentive, and the stick is is doing its job here. I think that the one thing that came to mind for me was on every one of those streets like that that earlier, the before picture, with the clusters of where lime scooters are, looks just like what we expect as a community for availability of free on street car parking.

[54:14] has. And and I and I was listening really closely to the decision making about where to place the chorales like I said, I'm impressed that they work that well. But the after picture to me looked so austere. And I thought, if we are really trying to push micro mobility as a. you know, seeing with this, with this model how successful it's been in avoiding 3 quarters of a million car trips. shouldn't we be considering putting parking in additional locations that will make it easier for people to use these. And I'm noting that the average trips for you know, an e-scooter and an e-bike no surprise. They're short. These are all within town. We're not talking about the 65,000 in commuters daily. We're talking about making it easier for people to get around inside the city, and that's exactly what we ought to be doing. So what would the steps be in prioritizing and elevating the ease of access for people who aren't university students but are living in.

[55:21] you know, maybe dense populations where these 30 somethings are, what, what would be the process for sort of democratizing our street space. Even further, to to put a put a thumb on the scale that says we will help you get access to this micro mobility. Allison. I'd love if you could talk through a little bit more about what these diagrams are showing and and maybe help our tab members understand a little bit about the the density of those dots on the right side. And what changes in ridership did we, or did we not see before and after the lime groves were expanded in the hill.

[56:00] Love it. Thank thank you, Tila and Valerie, and and then, Tila, I'll explain a little bit more about further of the process of how we build upon that, and actually some new mandatory parking zones elsewhere in the city that are being implemented due to that demand. So again, I completely hear what you're saying. And again we we work on these mandatory parking corrals in areas where we're seeing this high ridership, extensive parking. And then also community concerns. So we're also seeing Miss Parking in some of these areas, and how folks should not be parking. And there's, for example, there's a senior living facility around here. I think the Academy is what it's called. and we were seeing a lot of parking in that area, and there's folks there who are struggling to walk around on the sidewalks, and so we wanted to make sure we were organizing the scooters so that they were away from that area so that folks could get around on sidewalks. So we really took the time, especially in University Hill, to understand where we should be placing these

[57:06] and yeah. And Valerie pointed out a good thing and again. I'm there's a lot through ride report I can walk through, but I know the I know some of the The circles on the right look smaller, but they're a darker color, which actually shows that they have a lot more scooters there. And again, it's it's hard to see at the scale. I was trying to figure out an appropriate scale to show all of this. But this number right here at, I believe this is Aurora and 11, th I think there's 1,200 scooters that were parked here over this 2 month period. So what you're doing is, you know we're condensing down a lot of these scooters to where folks are parking and riding. We learned, of course, around Chautauqua. Folks are riding up the hill to Chautauqua. Not a big surprise there, and needing to park there. So we have 2 parking crowds there. You'll see a long baseline that have really organized those. So instead of parking, you know, within a block of Chautauqua, folks are parking in this really focused area right in front of Chautauqua. So there's actually, we are condensing those into these areas. I'll also note again, it's a little hard to see at this scale.

[58:18] There's a couple really small blue dots in here. There's, I think, 3 on this left side, and those are individual scooters that were clearly miss Parked. And like I said, we, we have had warnings and fines. So this sounds a bit odd to say, but it's always helpful to see that, because it kind of it, it's connecting the data that I'm seeing Lime provide to what we're seeing in ride reports. So they're sharing with us. You know the number of warnings and fines that are received, and I see, hey, there are a few folks that are still not parking where they are supposed to be parking, so they are receiving those warnings and fines. So you do see those occasionally which again, sort of validates that information that they are sharing so. And I'll point to another piece of your question

[59:06] about about accessibility and making sure that folks can, you know, can get to places within very close to their home. We've actually had a lot of feedback from both community members, writers, and line. that this organized model has been beneficial for all 3 of those groups, because for community members it's seen as more organized on the street network, and for the reasons I mentioned before, with the daylighting and all of this, so it is more organized for riders on their app. They know exactly where to go. They can see on their app. Okay, I go, you know, 2 blocks that way, and that's where I park. And you can also see how many scooters are already there. So if it's an overcrowded stall. you can. You can see that on the app, and then. To be fair. That was that was available before as well they they could. They could see where a scooter was and go get it so. Absolutely. That's not a benefit of the mandatory parking zone. Absolutely. That's that's always been available. And then for line, it allows them to organize in a quicker way for their kind of route, you know. Pick up the scooters. Okay, let's let's relocate them here. We have more folks over here. So so it has been beneficial in that sense.

[60:15] Yes. And I think Valerie hinted that there are going to be new new areas to park that are coming online soon. Yes. So our primary areas we have. So all of the Cu campuses are mandatory parking zones. That was, that was at the very beginning of the Expansion University Hill and downtown boulder, I showed those images. We've also recently approved expansion to an area in North Boulder kind of along the North Boulder, North Broadway Arts district up there, and and some of those neighborhoods. and then also north of Willville, where we're seeing some missed parking issues. There's a lot of just potential friction there and then in the Goss Grove neighborhood, we're also going to be implementing a mandatory parking zone and corral. So again, these areas where we're seeing a lot of ridership, a lot of parking and also some community concerns and really identifying those areas where it makes the most sense to manage this parking.

[61:12] Is there any concentration? I I know you mentioned like really focusing on part of around the Academy, which makes sense. And of course, there are other retirement communities in other parts of town that are much more affordable. Frankly, Academy, which I think would deserve similar attention. So yeah, I would like to highlight that as a thing to think about or look at, and you probably are nodding your head because you already have. But is there also a focus around high schools? I believe the minimum age is 16 for these E-scooters and e-bikes. Is that correct? Only just 18. 18. So what? How did my 17 year old exchange student get one? Then. I can't speak to that. No me, neither.

[62:02] You have. When you sign up, you state that you're 18 and. Okay. Alright. Well, I see. I see some lime scooters at like the middle school around here. Even so. I would encourage. Would I encourage just curious what your thinking is around. heightening availability at high schools. Yeah, we had. It's a good question. We haven't done a lot around the high schools, but around the elementary school. So, for example in University Hill, we do have it as a no parking zone. So Again trying to reduce any friction or conflict there, recognizing that there is high ridership in those areas. And then also a lot of younger students. But that's a good point of high schools of of looking to kind of focus on that, because, frankly, at high schools some people are 18 and some people are not. So that's kind of a yeah, that that'd be an interesting one to look further into. Yeah, interesting, Darcy. I see your hand up.

[63:02] Yeah, thank you. I remember when both these programs started and and some of the conversation around the development of them. But I don't remember whether we did consider dockless bike share shared bikes. Do you have a yeah. We did consider dockless bike share. Okay, I just wanted to bring that up because it came up earlier and like one dockless system, seems to be kind of enough, but like 2 dockless systems, could be challenging but also on the high school. Conversation. Thank you for bringing that up, Tila, because actually, I have heard from several people that high schoolers are riding lime scooters, and that they really love it. And is there a way? I know, that there are liability issues. But could there be a way to make them accessible to people 15 and up 14 and up, I mean, well, 16, maybe I don't know. Maybe 16, because then you could, you could drive a car. Why can't you ride an e-scooter? It's a lot safer, I mean, in a lot of ways.

[64:06] But we know that high schoolers want more ways to get around that they need the flexibility and agency that these micro mobility programs afford them. And you know, there aren't always be cycle stations where they need to go like, how do we really make micro mobility more broadly available to people who are in that? In between phase of like, maybe they can't drive, or they don't have access to a car, and we don't really want them to be driving, anyway. And but they need to get around, and they need to traverse some pretty far distances, and they need to relieve their parents of the responsibility to chauffeur them around. So how do we do that? I really want to see us work on. Yeah, certainly. No. I think that's a good point, Darcy. And I think something we can connect with our city attorney's office on and understand. You know the original reasoning, and then working with the providers to kind of dig in further. So I don't have that answer for you right now, but it's certainly something we can look into.

[65:03] Yeah, I I support Darcy's comments quite a lot. And and also keeping in mind that the Colorado safety stop law like that. That applies 15 and over, I think, or over 15, maybe, is but yeah, both of those have a lower threshold than than using an E-scooter. And really, I have very vested interests in having younger drivers using less lethal things. Yeah. Do I have one more other question here? Oh, so low income or income qualified residents can get a free B cycle pass is that this current state of affairs. And lime. So this interaction. Okay. Of revised Code. Cause cause you were talking about how you know people are using them for a daily commuting that it can become a financial burden, I suppose. Are are we aware? I don't. I don't know how aware income qualified residents are of these programs.

[66:07] And that is, yeah. It's a really good point, Tila, and that's something we're working with both lime and B cycle on. And one of the things that we are looking to use. Some of our revenue fees from this program on is the communications piece of it and hiring folks, whether it's community connectors or other programs. In order to more broadly share that information. So that we do have higher, higher amounts of folks. Of that. It's something that. Thinking, you know, we probably gained some information about people who were seeking for a subsidized, you know, Private E-bike. Not everybody got one. Did the people who didn't win the lottery on that? Did they have another offer, or, you know, were they made aware of these other options? Yeah, no, definitely. That's I'm I'm glad you bring that up. And that's certainly on our radar of ways to increase knowledge and access and communications around that piece.

[67:04] Okay. Great. Okay, Darcy, I'm gonna come back to you because you said you had more just sort of comments and feedback. I think that's the end of my questions. some of which were disguised as questions, but were actually feedback. Yeah, you know, I'm I'm not sure that I have a lot more to add. I feel like we've had a good conversation about these programs are really significant. You've done a great job at capturing and distilling the data and sharing it out. I shared the memo with my colleagues at transportation connections. And you know, it's it's really good information. And I think more of us need to kind of understand how they're operating and how well, they're doing and that they really are serving a community need? yeah, I think this, I had something else. But now I. Can't remember. I'm back around. When it comes back.

[68:00] But generally I just thank you. You're doing a great job. Let's see how we can help these programs be even more, you know, have a greater uptake for replacing more car trips definitely, especially by younger drivers. One thing I did want to say, because Tila's asking about the awareness of availability, of micromobility among income qualified communities, and I know that there were some I heard fairly recently. Maybe it was like a year ago from some researchers in the environmental design program at Cu Boulder, who were conducting some kind of community research with residents of income qualified kind of areas. And they got some good data from the community members about how they want to be communicated with about these kinds of opportunities. And so that that is happening. And I think there's some positive developments there. Thanks. Darcy, Trini or Mike.

[69:02] Any parting thoughts. Go ahead, Mike. Yeah, thanks tila for pointing out the density of of the corrals on the hill. It did seem like some of them were 5 blocks apart, or. Than that. Yeah. Well, there were alleys on that map. So. That's true. It would be nice to have more of those so people don't have to walk so far and if we do end up opening this to 16 year olds. I assume we'd have to have some pretty big corrals at the High schools. Yeah. And I think that's great. Actually, because we know, you know, the open enrollment policy would be a Bbsd has really

[70:04] had some either unanticipated or undervalued ancillary effects about families driving their students to school. and I think the more that we can replace those unnecessary car trips with something less lethal. That would be terrific. I think there's a lot of promise there. I am nearing the end of my term here. It's been 8 lovely years. And so this is one of the sort of areas of real change and significant progress that I have been able to witness firsthand. I was so proud of what I saw in this in the slide deck. In the presentation. I couldn't believe it. I forwarded it around.

[71:06] I have. I went to Clark Riders Super Bowl Party yesterday, and I'm like, Oh, my God! Stop. We're gonna work with Clark closely, we work with, yeah. So, and he said, he's been. They're not ready to involve the city yet, but he's he's willing to let me meddle a little bit. He's having conversations with local boulder community health. So you know, local public health agencies about this. And I'm really, really encouraged by what I see. And in particular, how the data who has supported a whole lot of our well founded assumptions and educated guesses and modeling and effort that was intensely frustrating to me actually, because it took so long, and it delayed things. And I suppose I should. I could have asked this as a question in the question period, but from my recollection

[72:05] of the intense thinking about and probing, and what ifing and modeling and forecasting? There have been no surprises in this, how how this program has unfolded arbitrarily limiting it. To explicitly exclude access by university students was a mistake. And when we broadened this program citywide, of course, we saw exponential growth in ridership. Of course we saw increased popularity. Of course the sky did not fall. There were no fatal incidents in 2024. There is no reason to demonize these new things as scary. I entirely share the concern about improperly parking these things on sidewalks and impeding access. That's a very valid concern. I am astounded at the flexibility and ingenuity of city staff of Lyme.

[73:06] I know Lyft does similar things, but just of this industry to address that. and I would propose or posit that having more on street off curb parking areas for these things, both legitimizes them as an actual form of transportation that deserves room on our city streets. It reinforces the notion that our streets are a safe place to use these things. So the picture Allison that you put up of of the curbside bike corral at 15th and Walnut. So no 11th and walnut. I was like, how how do those scooters get there? They're up on the curve and the like. The decal. It says, no ride. Zone is right in the photo you are. It's like telling drivers like, please turn off your car and just push your car into the parking stall. It is incorrect. This is coming from a place that says these things are newfangled, and we don't know what to do with them.

[74:11] and just like we saw with parking, protected bike lanes and other physically protected bike lanes in New York City. having a dedicated, visible, obviously safe and generally respected area of the transportation network dedicated to bicycles, suddenly tamed the wild West of bad bicycling behavior all over town. I think putting these parking docks is so essential as a message to the community and those community members that actually legitimizes their concerns about them being on the sidewalk, they shouldn't be on the sidewalk. They should be right there by the curb. They should be accessible. They're not blocking fire exits. They're not blocking sightlines. They are actually performing a public service by being clustered and parked there together, and we should be doing more of that.

[75:03] So bravo, kudos! And where we started this conversation was, I want to see this information presented to city council. There are a couple of people still left on city council who were with me for part of this journey. and who were worried about the citywide expansion, or who believed Tab at the time, that we should expand citywide, and I would like to just close the the circle here. I think we have enough information to say that this should be considered a success. I think you demonstrated, like I said, remarkable flexibility and ingenuity in tweaking how we do things. I think that this is one of the more wildly, demonstrably successful efforts by city staff.

[76:00] and I want Council to know about it. Thanks. Thanks, Taylor. I appreciate all your insight and all your work on this, and I also want to give. My work, I just complained. But I'm right. Provided a lot of feedback and insight, and I also want to give my predecessor Dk, on this. A lot of Dk. Worked a lot with Valerie early on in the development. This is 2019 2021. Getting this going. And again without much data, right like. And as as you were sharing this. The the world didn't explode in Boulder when this came, but there was a lot of you know, kind of back and forth with it and and we didn't have a lot of data to to build off of. But a lot of now we do. And it's been really interesting to iterate. And I also want to give kudos to so many people in our department, from our engineering team to our maintenance team, to even just developing these parking stalls. You know. These are all Mutcd approved. And you know all of these.

[77:02] so I do want to give kudos. There's so many folks involved with this. It looks so simple out in the field. But there's been a lot of thought process to make sure these are appropriate, and that they can be a long, lasting part of our multimodal system. So appreciate that. Yeah. So you're thinking your Co. Stars and your producers and your directors. Veronica's gonna start playing them off music. But Darcy, remember what she was. Gonna say, she's raised her hand, and then we're gonna leave it. Well, I just wanna say I mean to be fair, you know, like at that time I remember you know, I was doing the boulder walk stuff, and Dk was taking this on as a project, and he was very doubtful about whether this was a great investment. You know. I mean. Everybody was because it was a new thing, and people were very concerned about how the scooters would be used, and how you know how they would affect sidewalks and access, and all the things right. And there was a lot of skepticism, even though it was an innovative idea. It's an innovative industry, you've, you know, come from New York and seen what works. And and so I think the process was probably the right process, even though it was slower.

[78:12] Okay, okay, okay, okay. I see your face. I mean, I know limiting it to Easter 28, th was it was. It was a wild period, and it really just showed the demand right? I mean, it made it so clear. So I I hear you, Tila, and I appreciate that. Yeah, maybe it was delayed. But but they had to deal with a lot of push back, you know, and so I think it was. It was done well to make sure that there would be documentation of how it would function and had, and to help people get used to the idea. And I mean, that's kind of what we. That's what we do here. And I think it. It worked in this case, really. Well, so anyway, kudos to. Give us the opportunity to learn from other cities nationwide which we've continued to draw on today.

[79:00] It was a whole new thing. Yeah. Well and honestly, I was thinking during this presentation, I hope other cities are watching this. We. We get calls often from other cities, especially. Flag. Mandatory parking zones and corrals. We I mean weekly. I share our process on that because folks are parking is is one of the primary challenges. And we we share out about our process often on that. Proud of you kids. Okay, let's move on. Everyone. That was, that was the only. Thank you, Allison. That was great. Thank you. Thanks. You guys, thanks, Steven. that was the the main substance of the meeting tonight. We are gonna now move to matters matters from staff. I just had an open placeholder. Is there anything, Valerie? Not this evening. Thanks, Tila. Okay, then we'll move along to matters from the board. I had a question. I haven't looked it up. I don't know if it's publicly available or not. But the application period has closed. We heard tonight from one applicant, and I see some other unfamiliar names who are watching. So if if you are tab applicant sitting here

[80:17] trying to see how the sausage is made, that was a pretty good sausage making session. But do reach out if you have questions. We are, you know, public appointees, and we are available. And I I'm I don't think I'm only speaking for myself, but we'll be happy to talk to you about our experience. the expectations and sort of the the dedication, and the time that it takes to serve on this board, Mike. I see your hand up. Sure. I have a question for staff. It came up in a discussion with Kurt Nordback, who's on planning board? Regarding the implementation of long term bike, storage and residential properties. It seems like

[81:04] a number of those our vertical bike storage, which don't work so well for modern e-bikes, heavy bikes, cargo bikes. just wondering, is that something that is still allowed in the in the city code? for for the mandate, for long-term bike storage. So yeah, that feedback was provided to staff. The the team working on the access management parking strategies. Effort. That came through tab and also council recently. That that feedback was provided to that team, and it has been considered and currently, I think that form of parking is still an option for for projects to consider, especially with space constraints. But I think the feedback that we heard from Kurt and other members of the community through that process was that it would be good to consider how an array of bicycle parking.

[82:14] dimensioning could be considered. Given that that there has been an increase in the number of e-cargo bikes, cargo bikes just longer profile, longer tail bikes that are being used and and just changes in how folks are using bikes and and that increased demand for long term storage. So it's also all conversations that that have been had and and considered by staff. Thanks. Hey? Anyone else have anything for open board? Comment. I have a couple of things. Mike, did you have something else.

[83:00] Just the item you Yeah. So Mike and I, together with another member of community Cycles Advocacy Committee, started just walking around to a few businesses on Folsom to make sure that they were aware of the, and engaged in sort of in the in the outreach process in Folsom. Several of them said they had already been visited by city staff, and some of them were like, Oh, yeah, now I have the poster upstairs, and so well done, that's quite different than how this went last time. But, Mike, did you have any like impressions or takeaways from the couple of hours we spent just kind of knocking on doors. And generally I'm just very surprised at how open and a lot of the businesses were enthusiastic about this. some of them not so much. There was really only one that was reported to be hostile, and that was neither. Tila and I went to the 3rd person. Michael Edesma

[84:08] talk to that place and got an earful apparently. And that that is in the The one block on the north side, between Goss and grove strip Mall that they don't even know. On the on the west side. Sorry. Yeah. On the West side. They don't even have a sidewalk on that block. They've got parking up to the building and then parking up to Folsom. Yeah, I wasn't trying to get into the details. I was just kind of, you know, just letting you know that community cycles has been doing this. And in general pretty pretty lopsided support in general for the idea. and also a pretty significant amount of awareness. I would say from the business owners through the the outreach that the city's been doing. So.

[85:01] Yeah, seems like it's it's going well, I think a lot of them. Had they? Were they? They were aware of the previous Folsom efforts, the living lab efforts in 2015, but not terribly informed about them. So it's a chance to kind of restart the conversation fresh, I think. I'll just can. I just add that the Boulder chamber is hosting a business listening session on. Cool. The 25th of. Is this? Day, the 25.th Okay. Sorry. Is this the second one? This is the 1st one for this project. So the other one was on 30th Street. Exactly. Yeah, we've done quite a few kind of business. engagement opportunities. But this one is a listening session with dinner at the folder chamber for people. From any businesses employees or owners, operators so we welcome everyone to come to that and please join us.

[86:04] Great. Thank you. And if I might add, we do have our open house this this week. Yeah. Wednesday evening. And of course tab members are invited to not only join us for that, but really help us out with the the actual event production? And you know you have all received that invitation, and we really look forward to seeing you there. If you're able to attend. And is it a is it a publicly noticed, Dealey? So we don't have to worry about more than 2 of us showing up. Yeah. I mean, I think in any situation like this, the guidance that you have received is to not talk about city business together while you're at the event. But you are certainly all welcome to attend and and have more than 2 of you there. And if you have questions about that. You can ask me on the night of, or or in advance. I would also just highlight.

[87:00] You know the the engagement that the team has been doing really started last year, not only in partnership with Boulder Chamber transportation connections, but with some of the business luncheon events that Darcy was mentioning. But we've really been doing a lot of focused engagement along the corridor, reaching out to to folks that don't usually engage in our city processes, and that is not just with all the businesses along the corridor. But you know other groups, and I just want to lift up that the open house is is just one of many engagement activities that the team has carefully been conducting over several months. So again, if if this is the 1st time that someone's hearing about it that could just be that that they're the kind of person that the traditional engagement activities might reach. But I want to lift up how much work the team has been doing to bring people into the process that wouldn't normally engage.

[88:01] Yep, I know you're doing your homework. Yeah. And one of the business owners of Mike and I talked to. He was unaware of any of this outreach that happened on on Irs. He's like, I don't think they did. I'm like, oh, boy, you can't win them all. You can't win them all. I think the last thing I wanted to flag is it's maybe retreat time of year again, like we have to start thinking about that and I think things like Trish Emser's emails and comments like that that feels like something that was shining a bit of a spotlight on a place that we hadn't really been talking about or focusing on. So just in general members, be thinking about stuff that you might want to bring forward at the Retreat for discussion, for highlighting. It's an opportunity to sort of figure out what big themes are going to emerge in terms of what we be asking ourselves and and our board and our public to be focusing on as always can as a multi year effort. I'm sure it's still going to take

[89:11] prime position in our priorities. But that doesn't have to exclude other priorities. So just be thinking about what you might want to have on your retreat and then not gonna help you with that. So yeah, all right. On we go. If no one else has any comments from the board. Tila. When is your last meeting. Probably next month. Really. Yeah, I'm assuming our next meeting will be before the next appointments happen. But as soon as as soon as the next 2 members get appointed. I'm squeezed off. So choose what city street you would like to rename for me. Why are you laughing. No, no, I'm not. Just laugh. Oh, do him. Yeah.

[90:00] Know right. I will accept an hour. Illustrate back. His way. Just quickly. I want to. I want to. Sorry. Go ahead! Were you saying something, Trini? I'm sorry. No, no, I was just repeating. T. Less way has to ring to it. Yes, yes, I like that. I just wanted to lift up what trish brought as well. I think that. That was a a really important kind of investigation, and something that we haven't talked about enough. And even my organization hasn't addressed. And so I think this is something that really needs attention. It looked like a lot of processes were broken, and, you know, insights and new opportunities to to improve that system in partnership with Rtd. And the county, and whoever else is working on that. But I wanted to thank Trish for bringing that to our attention. Yeah, I agree. So I I will be talking about this. I think, at our agenda setting meeting next week, if it's next week.

[91:02] Yeah. Cause you know, it touched on a whole bunch of things like, what is the county doing with Rtd doing? Why are these websites broken? Who's in charge of cleaning this thing and the bike theft. Where's Pd. On this? Like all of all of it, it was a it was a multi-headed hydra, but I think, well placed, and so it deserves some attention on some future tab meetings. I think. As always. If you have other ideas and things you wanna bring forward, and just kind of put in our radar for future meetings, either for next month or further out. So please be thinking about that future meeting topics and retreat topics. and with that I will entertain a motion to adjourn. They moved. To a journal. Oh, it might be. You move like. It's been a second. Darcy. Thank you. Everyone who tuned in. We'll see you same Bat Channel next month. Bye. Bye.

[92:00] Thanks. Everybody. Appreciate it. Thank you.