November 13, 2023 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] Now. alright, that's all on you. Thanks, Veronica. Go ahead and call to order the City of Boulder Transportation Advisory Board Meeting for November thirteenth, 2023, before we conduct any business. I'll turn it over to Veronic, our technical host this evening to go over our ground rules. All right. Can you see my screen? Yes, yes, alright. We're pleased to have you all join us today to strike a balance between meaningful, transparent engagement and online security, the following rules would be applied. This meeting has been called to conduct the business of the city of Boulder. Activities that disrupt delay or otherwise interfere with the meeting are prohibited. The time for speaking is limited to 3 min. No person shall speak except when recognized by the person presiding, and no person shall speak for longer than the time allotted. Each person shall be registered to speak at the meeting, using persons real name, any person believed to be using a name other than the one they're commonly known by will not be permitted to speak.

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[2:07] Tila did not get a chance to review them. What time were they sent? They were sent to? Around 30'clock they were posted around 10'clock with my apologies. Yeah, I didn't notice them come in. I did notice that they were not missing, and I assumed we were just going to punch it to next month. If you would like to move it lower down on the agenda. I can have a look while we're on the meeting. or we can punch it down the road to next month, did Ryan, did you have any comments with? No, it's good looks good to me. I checked it out. Looks good. Okay? Well, hopefully. Whoever's around in a month will have had a time to review them all, and we can approval. I had to go through really quickly. I'll give them a closer look. I've got a full month to do. So.

[3:07] Okay. that brings us to agenda. Item 4, which is public comments. Any members of the public wishing to address the Board about a transportation matter, will have up to 3 min to do so. If you're interested in addressing the board, please use the raise hand feature within the Zoom Platform, and our technical host will call on you. Okay, let's see, Harry Ross, if you are able to confirm, you're able to talk. I can start the timer once that is confirmed. Hey, this is Harry, can you hear me? Yes, perfect. Go ahead. Hello, everyone. Thank you for having me. I'll keep to my 3 min. I really appreciate this time. I just wanted to attend today as a representative of the Boulder airport, and I've spoken to many of you. I've met with many of you about the airport, but I would just like to offer up a little bit of information about it and make myself available to anybody else on the Advisory Board that would be interested.

[4:12] some background on the airport. This is from cdots economic impact statement that it came out just a couple of years ago. They do this for every airport in the State. Their most recent one says that Boulder airport is contributing about 300 jobs to the local economy and brings in about 60 million dollars a year. So it's an important economic driver for us. Most people think about the airport as a center for recreation for recreational pilots. But it's an awful lot more. And that's what I'm really trying to educate people on E. In addition to recreational flying at any given time, there are probably 30 student pilots that aspire to go fly, most of them for the airlines. And this is where most airlines pilots get their first couple of 1,000 h of training little regional airports like this.

[5:07] airports, also a big center for emergency response. So we all remember what happened in the floods, and that was the second largest National Guard Air response in Us. History after Katrina. But the fire department, the sheriff's department, the National Guard. They all train there. I work out of a a hangar that the life flight helicopter flies in and out of every single day. So when when a car rolls over on the diagonal. that's where that life-saving helicopter comes from. In addition, there is really critical climate research that comes out of neon aviation and scientific aviation. These are the 2 worldwide research organizations that most of the national labs, locally and and nationally use to gather climate data around the literally around the world. It's also a great center for community activity. I sit on the boards of a number of

[6:06] of of airport community locations, and we have weekly meetings that the entire community is open to the community working group opened us up to a whole nother group. And that's been great because we've been able to bring them in 2 activities that we really took to hard, and we've worked on very hard to try to be good neighbors is noise, reduction, and so their voluntary noise, reduction guidelines that the airport users have put in place, and what I can proudly say is less than less than half of the now non-compliant complaints come from pilots based at our airport. Most of the complaints really come from pilots from other places like Broomfield eerie, and we're working hard to try to educate them about how to be good neighbors with us. The one that I'm working on most closely is lead reduction. Leaded fuel is still used at the airport. That concludes your 3 min. But

[7:08] thank you for joining us this evening. Thanks for having me first the next person I have on the list is Chris before? If you can confirm, you're able to speak. Thank you very much for inviting me to speak cool. Can you hear me again? I very much done. I'm gonna take the 3 min I would. I would like to request that we look into constructing a traffic circle interchange between table Mesa and South Boulder Road it would help if there were no left turns, particularly the rather fraught left turn that comes off of Table Mesa to go onto the ramp to go west on 36, and the rather terrifying merge across a bike lane when you come off of foothills and then try to travel west on table, mesa. The addition of a traffic circle there would eliminate all the left turns. It would also free up the traffic in that area. I understand that there are some pretty intense construction problems with with choking that particular point, but I think it's worth our time to look into it.

[8:13] I grew up in Boston and New York and I can personally attest to the suburbs around Boston. So that's Acton, Acton, Boxboro, Harvard, Concord, Walden, etc., use this exact method to solve their interface between highway and local roads, and so there are plenty of examples of how we could deploy this. Thank you very much for your time. Thanks, Christopher. So. Steven. If you are able to confirm, you're able to speak. Steven. Yes, perfect. Can you hear me? Yup, okay. I am just calling in. I wrote an email last week about the Crosswalk being installed it 20 s Arapo. this is something that neighborhood and see you and Rupe has been working on for

[9:05] years, if not decades. and a sort of surprises bein installed. I couldn't find any documentation on it on the city website. We really haven't heard anything about it for the last few years. So so right now it's a crosswalk, and I call it cross bike. There's a multi path there, so they have green paint and white paint. There's only one set of signs sort of at the Crosswalk. So the cross bike. Actually. if you're heading west. that before that sign is even there. And, as you know, Rappa Hose, very high volume traffic and pretty high volume, so pretty high speeds if it's not clogged. So I'm just wondering if there's any way to get with the engineer, and to

[10:02] see if they're gonna install rectangular, rapid, flashing beacons that was planned years ago. Or if what is installed right now, which is very inadequate. I've tried it both walking, my dog and biking. You have to. Really. No, the the motorists are not expecting a crosswalk there, and they're not stopping unless you really flag them down and is a 6 foot tall guy. It's takes a lot of flagging. So I was just wondering who to get in touch with within the city to have my email and do a walkthrough with an engineer and see if it's it's done. Maybe there is plans next year to install lights, but I don't see any power or anything any polls being put in. Thank you.

[11:04] Thanks, Steven. Are there any other members of the public. Cushing, to address the board at this time? If so, please raise your hand. We have Lynn. Then, if you're able to confirm you're able to speak. Yeah. I wanted to ripe actually, about all of the 15 min Neighborhoods that everyone's always proposing, because. you know, I have to commute out constantly, and I'm centrally located. There's not enough stuff that the whole boots by my place. and I have to go East, and I'd rather not go East at all. but I have to. And the other night I went. the friends of Young was meeting at the out Boulder place, which is 40 seventh, and that area east of foothills and

[12:04] at night going across foothills a 70 year old woman in my bike. you know, with cars goin 80 miles an hour 2 feet from me. It's like, just really not pedestrian oriented type environment. So as much as bolder wants to be pedestrian oriented. We're not. We're just getting more and more sprawl. And between the different places of sprawl, like the perfect example is water view. You all know. Water view right the little 15 min Neighborhood anchored on a brew pub. That's real brilliant and on 58 and Arapaho and a car garage for every unit. And guess where they're gonna want to be going West. They want to come West. and when they come West they crowd the roadways, and I'm trying to get out of town for one thing or another to get to Walmart or some store I can afford, and I have to compete with trash trucks, construction rigs, you know, Major major stuff.

[13:20] and I'd like to know what y'all are doing to make this environment safer and more friendly to a 70 year old, who drives her car once every 6 months. I mean, tell me about it because I want to know And when are you going to fix up Pearl Street, where the fire was, because I have to cross the street every time for 3, 4 years now. like the developers are salivating as they're building these new, expensive places that don't fund you appropriately for the impact that they cause. As the wealth parity increases.

[14:06] So you really need to be advocating to the planning board, because you're just the fall board for what the bad stuff that happens in Boulder, and you have to accommodate it, and it's not fair to to the Tab to have to accommodate to poor planning. So go for it, please help done. Thanks, Lynn. Thank you, Lynn. I'm not seeing any more hands at this time. Are there any board members or Natalie any one want to respond to any of the things that we heard to night during public comment at this time. Sure, yeah, we can. Devin is here with us this evening, and so he can speak a little bit to the project that we're working on at on a wrap. A home on 20 s.

[15:00] Hi! Good evening. My name is Devin Joson. I'm the city's principal traffic engineer. and thank you for your comments. Steven, relative to Twenty-second and Arapaho. That was a crossing location that had been on our list for quite some time. Really, I would say. Sounds like, for many years you've been tracking it, Steven, but we were actively tracking it as staff. Really, since Twenty-second got designated as a neighborhood. Green Street. Recognizing that the connection of Twenty-second Street aligning with the shared street that can get folks to the Boulder Creek path. Is a very desirable crossing location for people. and we recognized also that the pedestrian signal that is located about 200 feet to the west of 20 s Street. we operate that signal in a coordinated way. So pedestrians do often experience a short wait when using that pedestrian signal, because it is trying to keep traffic along a rapper coordinated and moving in that manner. But we noted that Twenty-second was a desirable crossing, location and staff had worked

[16:17] last year with a consultant to prepare a design. And then we had the resources this year. Because it was our top crossing location. To go ahead and get that installed this year. Relative to the Rrsb question. That was something that we looked at very carefully. and one of the key considerations was the proximity to the pedestrian signal. and both staff and our consultant we're concerned about putting an Rfb. That close to a traffic signal the concern being that with 2 kind of active traffic traffic control devices that close to one another it might be possible at a motorist

[17:03] might be looking ahead to the signal and missed the Rr Fb. Or vice versa. So for that reason, as well as the reason that our Pict does currently say that static signs are the appropriate sign for that location as well. So for those 2 reasons, we didn't at this time to feel an RRFB. Was needed. But that is something that we can continue to monitor over time. We do intend to do. Some monitoring of the crossing volumes in that area. Recognizing that. It's been a while since a comprehensive crossing studies been done in that area, and if we find that people really are drawn more so to the 20 s street crossing and aren't using the pedestrian signal as much. That might be a means for considering removal of that pedestrian signal and upgraded. To the crossing. Twenty-second.

[18:09] Thanks, Devin. Yeah, thank you. Did the you mentioned the pick tick. That's the pedestrian crossing treatment installation guidelines. Yes, thank you. II meant to say out that acronym and II didn't. So. Thank you. Oh, no, I was curious if you mentioned that it doesn't sound like warrant based on the number of crossers. Does that also provide guidance on how close it can be to another device like stop control device. Some of that is is left to engineering judgment. And in this case we felt the signal was was too close to be to have an RR. Be that close to the signal. Okay. thank you. Any other comments on this item or any of the others that came up during public comment at this time.

[19:03] not seeing any. That'll bring us to agenda. Item 5, which is an information. Only item on the annual update on performance based pricing and ramp. Is there anything pertaining to this information? Item that anyone would like to discuss while we're on the call, Tila. Thank you. I had a little bit of email back and forth today. Curious about a couple of things I saw in the memo with Samantha Bromberg. which were helpful. I feel like I should just update you the emails. so I am continuing it to be curious about underperforming blocks and some of the information in the memo on the Npp side.

[20:12] sort of sort of it wasn't very clear where, some of the founders were, or some of the underperforming blocks were, I did appreciate them, noting that 3 zones are currently comp seems like completely underperforming average parking occupancy around 25% or below I will note that what is recited in the memo based on the city manager rule. If any established Npp zone in the program does not meet the approved key metrics for 3 consecutive years, it may be identified by staff for termination. this is a little frustrating to me, because the thing seems to me it ought to be identified by staff for termination. and I think that that should be true, for any block is found under performing it looks like Staff is really stepping up some of their data, gathering and analysis on on parking rates

[21:12] on some of these blocks. But the statement in the memo sort of suggests that a zone entirely can get shut down or not, as I recall. And I hope Sam is on the call here. As I recall the city manager can upon his or her own recognizance shorten that 3 year period can contract his own might not eliminate his own. So I just wanted to to raise these possibilities because I believe that there are certainly based on some of the data some of these Npp zones that are not performing or not really demonstrating that they're they're serving the purpose that we were hoping. But I was also hoping for a little bit more granular data. About block by block, even in some zones, which I think probably can justify

[22:10] an ongoing parking regulation, but maybe not throughout the entire zone. Samantha was very helpful, and said that they are working towards eventually hosting a public website with the data. So I don't have any more updated maps. But hopefully. and I don't really have a timeline on when we would get more information. but there is movement toward making some of the data behind this much more transparent, which is great. I also asked about program financial. So those of you who have been on the board for a little while might remember that in previous npp updates we had gotten sort of broad brush idea about how much the program as a whole was generating in revenue versus how much it was costing the city in Enforcement and unfortunately, Samantha informed me that our previous financial model I'm reading from her email was created prior to the Covid pandemic. So until we've had a chance to recreate the model accordingly. We're not ready to report out.

[23:14] that's a little frustrating, but I am cognizant. That Covid messed a whole bunch of things up. I just want to circle back to. And I wasn't here at the July meeting. But when the Npp program came up in particular in context with the East aurora expansion and the staff, Memo basically said, we're not sure what to do. It doesn't seem to be a good tool. The gist was from tab. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a good tool. We should probably think about making parking regulations sort of more in alignment with our current Tnp. As opposed to the Npp program, which was crafted in 1990, mid 1990, S. When I say 96

[24:05] so I again would like to extend my willingness to work on a different, more flexible. better strategy. I was also kind of waiting to hear about this input before I raised as much as an individual person. Suggestions to the City managers office about other underperforming blocks. and I would at this time like to raise again, reiterate past tab advice. to suspend any further npp applications until we really have a better handle on this, because I think, having availability to the public to petition to include their blocks. And Mpp program is simply raising false hopes at the moment, I think we were able to say very straightforwardly, when we decided as a city and the City Council under City Council direction, to stop doing the Nsmp program, it was a much cleaner break. We could tell people sorry. That's not a program happening right now, and I think we should be doing the same thing with the Npp.

[25:23] Thank you, Tila. Some thoughts does Staff wanna respond to any of that first, though? Well, yeah, thank you, Gila. I just wanna say there's no community vitality staff here with us this evening, but we did let them know that. You know. Likely there would be just comments and feedback, so we'll follow up with staff to just let them know to tune into the recording, so that if there's any other information that they can provide, then they'll certainly follow up thanks and maybe teal. If you hear anything back, you could bring it up as a matter from the board at next at the next meeting.

[26:01] and I echo your thought on suspending the program similar to Nsmp. And I think that's probably the sort of feedback that could best be plugged in at a council retreat. and I know we're gonna talk about parking more broadly. pardon code reform, or broadly later, under matters from the Board. But if that's something that a majority of the Board was interested in. Maybe we could flag it as something to bake into whatever advice on the upcoming 2 years for the next Council. Maybe we can incorporate that into a way of most importantly, not giving anyone false hope. And certainly trying to minimize the amount of effort that goes into something. If we don't think it's gonna bring change. Any other tab feedback on this information. Item.

[27:03] not see any that brings us to agenda. Item 6, which is a staff update on annual snow and ice program and the staff recommendations on the Snow and Ice Response Review project. Yes, and Scott is here with us this this evening to present and this is kind of a dual presentation. There will be some information about the project. The Snow nice program review project. And then also our annual snow. Nice control update. So it's kind of a 2 parter. Take it away, Scott. Thanks. Yep, good good evening. Everyone. I have Scott select transportation maintenance manager for the city. And I'm going to share some highlights. Around our snow and ice response for last year's snow season. Our approach for this season, and then I will pass it on to my colleagues to present on the snow and ice response. Review.

[28:08] So last season we received around average snowfall for the for the season. And had a similar number of events. As you can see in this slide. Just slightly, you know. One fewer event. and and a little less know the previous year. And we also spent roughly the same amount of money. From year to year. I attribute, I think, for a little little around $100,000 difference from last year to this year. and I attribute that to some of the colder temperatures that we had during the middle of winter last year, that that extended some of our response in our ice control. I also wanted to highlight Daniel. I'll be going next slide, please.

[29:03] One of the one of the changes for this season is on our off street and protected bike lane operators. We did add a dedicated vehicle and operator to the protected bike lanes for this season. And that's something that we haven't necessarily needed in the past. And and with the inclusion of the North Broadway bike Lane and the baseline protected bike facility and bus warranted for this year. in store for Daniel next slide, please. In store for this season. We're going to continue our comprehensive training program that we started last season, we did notice that there were fewer major vehicle damage sustained throughout the season with that. And oftentimes we're pairing new

[30:01] drivers that maybe haven't ever driven a large truck in snow. And and we pair them with operators that have plowing experience to show them areas and how to operate those plows during stressful distributions. and then it. It also seemed to decrease the amount of improperly plowed areas. So you know, in the in the past we've had drivers that would would take off and and think that they were on their route. They would be either on somebody else's route or on a completely different route, so that that training program has really helped clean up our efficiency stragglers. And, as I mentioned earlier, we have the new protected Pipe Lane dedicated route, and then also wanted to touch on the long range forecast for this season. I don't put a lot of weight into these long range forecasts.

[31:04] But but I think the local media has done a pretty decent job of. you know at least letting us know that there's the potential for a strong ill medio this year. What that means for our area we're kind of in in between areas, really. But they're calling for mostly average to just above average snowfall for for our area this year. and then next slide, Daniel. I did also want to touch that. We did hear some feedback on our first snow storm we had a couple of weeks ago. Most of it was around the protected bike lanes on baseline and the protected intersection at 30 in Colorado. It allowed us to identify some areas that if we could make improvements, and we've done such for the next snowstorm. We did plan to continue

[32:05] making changes and adjusting how we do things as we learn how those new facilities interact with winter mothers. And with that I will close on the update for the season. And open it up to tab for any questions about this current snow season. Thank you, Scott. Any board members have any questions or feedback. I don't think yeah. till then. Right. Thank you. I am curious. I remember that a couple of years ago we decided to plow to stop plowing snow to the center of major arterials. because it was sort of bleeding into the travel lanes. And then there were some motor vehicle

[33:06] crashes or boo boos and then I think I remember from last season, Natalie said we were in on some in some places again, plowing back to the center instead of clogging the gutter and the Bike Lane and do have have as a city. Have we learned how to optimize where we soup the snow cause I think we were playing around with in this last snow season. putting it back in the center. Median. yeah. So we do that in in a couple of areas, that are particularly tight. The downtown area is one of those locations that we do plow to the center and and it is an area that we can also, after the snowstorm. go back and actually take a snowflower and remove that snow from the downtown area. So we we aren't funded for Staff to be able to do that across the city. And what we do experience with the snow cloud to the center is that you'll get that freeze back that we often see in in bike lanes

[34:19] and wholesome, being a good example of that. But we've had some some challenges. Ralph frees back from night to night, and with that we try to keep that snow cloud to the outside. We do, when temperatures are favorable. return with our trucks to pull that snow away from those bike lanes and get those opened up and actually pull it out into the traffic lanes to to melt so. But that obviously takes favorable conditions still has to stop the travel lanes have to be mostly clear, but we do strive to keep some of that bike lane clear even when we're storing snow there.

[35:12] Teal, is that it for you. Alex? Mayor Scott? Thanks. 2 questions. First one is I I'm trying to remember the history of over the last couple of years our discussion on updating kind of like a strategic plan for this for the snow. Nice response program. If I'm not mistaken, we had started a process, and there was some feedback that we'd receive, or that your team had received, and if I'm I think there wasn't. We haven't really got like an analysis of that yet, and like a a wider plan, I could be misremembering. But can you just remind me is, that is that the case? Was there like a strategic with sort of plan. Update that involve community feedback. Forgive me if I'm forgetting some key milestones.

[36:05] No, no, that's that's fine, right? We're pretty confusing this month. That's in that next part of the presentation. So I'm gonna hand that over here. Then a bog, and Daniel Sheener, and they will give a comprehensive presentation on the analysis. Sorry. Okay. I missed the table of contents for the agenda. Okay, excuse me, thank you. I'll I'll I'll desist. Thank you. Thanks, Ryan. Anything else before we hear from others. Okay, probably best to hear from others. So we have the complete picture. Alright sounds great. Well, with that, then thank you very much. Tab I will pass it along to and manifold to start into the analysis. Presentation. Thanks, Scott.

[37:00] good evening, chair and board members. My name is Ben Mannebah Key. Him and I am a project manager with Public Works business services. Taking over this project for Noreen Walsh. Who has retired from the city to ground us back into what what this pro program review is is that is to take a step back. And in another way, like in an exercise standardization. What In response to some of the things that we've heard in the community which feel discuss in the next slide? And then, also understanding what other folks in the region are doing with their snow and ice clearing. And then after that, what are the steps we need to make to implement these possible changes. The one thing to note for this is that we are looking at specifically stuff maintained via the Transportation Mobility Department. So we work with a number of amazing agency partners, both within the city and other folks outside, including the county. The State.

[38:12] see boulder transit agencies to keep things clear in the winter. But the stuff we'll be talking about today is the stuff by us and our department. You'll see the timeline at the bottom of the slide here. We are getting towards the end of this project where we are. We have a number of proposed recommendations that will be going to the community after the tap presentation here and after that, then we'll be looking to finalize some of those and work towards implementing those which will include a a look at future budgets in a budget. Request Daniel next slide, please.

[39:02] So from that previous timeline we had a first go at hearing from different folks out in the boulder community on how they experience the transportation system in the winter, and how and how that is affected. By the way that we clear snow. So we had a number of different channels of communication. Some of those included a online based an open house some as well as a survey, and also connecting with kind of more focus groups, including the community connectors and residents to kind of dive deeper into to see if there was things that we weren't hearing on the right hand side. just to summarize some of the things that we did here it. We're kind of broken down by the way, that folks traveled as you might expect. If you don't

[40:00] use some of the bike infrastructure. You're not gonna kind of see how that's affected by ice. That's kind of melted and refrozen on the ground, and same goes on the flip side. If you're not driving, then that's not something experience. And so that's kind of those were a kind of broken kind of broken up, and you can read more about that. In one of the attachments. That kind of goes into much deeper detail on how those kind of played out some of the other. Some of the things that we heard on more generally as themes was asking the city to look at. Take a height and focus to things around equity themes around. You know. traveling in different ways that were outside of the car. Multimodal and then also are all around the way that the city communicates about the program, both in the way that both of we report like how we're doing and and report and then reporting how you know, like, when we're actually going to be out on the roads, you know. Like, when is my street going to be plowed? That kind of frame of reference next slide, please.

[41:18] Okay. so in kind of taking the feedback that we've heard we revisited our program, purpose and goals. To see if they still aligned, which for the most part. They did, however, making some tweaks with some of that feedback which, as I kind of just mentioned, that focus on equity and multimodal travel. and also in that kind of communication piece on you know, how are we using? You know, what kind of data are we collecting? And is is that message or kind of the things that we're learning from that data. Getting implemented in our operations. And then both and also communicated out to folks in the community

[42:05] next slide, please. So to frame the way that you know, the city may approach clearing snow and ice is breaking it down by how big the storm is going to be, or the the snow event. and so in front of you is showing is a small medium at large in you know the idea of trying to make this as easy to understand, for folks that aren't in the snow clearing business. And you've kind of got the inch totals, and we'll kind of go into this more in more detail as we go on in this presentation. But the the reason to break these down is that we can scale our approach and the resources that we apply out onto our transportation system in level with the kind of snow we're expecting to see.

[43:07] Next slide, please. Then, as I go this over, if you remember the most recent snow that we had a couple of weeks ago. That would be around the size of medium for the purposes of this. this presentation so we'll be breaking this kind of table down section by section. This was provided to us by. The consultant Olson associates that's working with us on this and this is a way that we could communicate. What kind of service? And yeah, and plowing folks can expect either on their streets, on their paths transit areas, bike infrastructure, etc. and and then on the bottom. Just to note, because I may be harder to read. There's a little asterisk for the shoveled areas, and that's more highlighting that

[44:05] adjacent properties to any kind of a sidewalk. An existing part of our code is to for those to be cleared within 24 h, and that's more by the either the residential or commercial property owners. Just that. That's an existing Part of our regulations right now. Next slide. And Daniel sheeter from our department will be taking over from this part great thanks, Ben, good evening, Tab members. My name is Daniel Sheeter, principal transportation planner in the planning division. I'll begin by diving into the proposed proposed criteria for each of the program components, streets, multi-use paths, bike network and shoveled areas that you kind of saw on the on the overall program. Graphic that Ben just shared the recommended data. Driven criteria was influenced by community feedback, including what we heard at tap when we came in the early part of this year to align to better align with mode chair objectives in the Tmd. And is broken out with mode. Specific considerations be that transit driving, biking, or walking.

[45:16] So, beginning with streets and small storms up to 3 inches. First, priority criteria are all street segments that are high traffic serve critical highway and arterial emergency response routes and or serve high ridership transit routes. What stops with greater than 50 boardings and alightings per day, and those would be cleared of snow within 12 h after snow stops under this proposed storm size. Approach streets directly accessing Rtd. Via Dvsd. Bus facilities would would also have service so that transit can get in and out of, in and out of those yards. And this next series of slides. And you should

[46:00] you received a link to this presentation in the packet for this meeting? and it's kind of an interactive presentation so that we could embed these these maps and you all can can also manipulate these on your own devices. And what you're seeing here is the left side. If you toggle for some of these toggle the legend on gives you gives you some more context there. But it you're seeing on the left side of this map the existing routes in this case, under the old framework primary routes. and then on the right hand side, recommended routes which, under the proposed storm size approach, would be first priority routes, and you can swipe back and forth and zoom zoom in on this to kind of compare. Compare the existing program and the recommended changes. These maps are best viewed on devices with larger screens, but they do also function on on phones and tablets, and you can also go full screen with them with this expand button.

[47:04] so not to detract from the screen share here. But you can also follow along the presentation and and kind of zoom in on details as we go through these slides and and get to the Q. And A. So that is the the first priority streets for smallstorm. I'll then toggle to medium storms for streets. and so for these larger storms or medium-sized storms. First priority streets receive pre-treatment and would continue to be cleared by 12 h after snow stops. But during these medium snow events between 3 and 8 inches. Second, priority streets begin to see service here, and would be cleared of snow by 24 h after snow stops. So the proposed data driven criteria here for second priority include all remaining critical emergency response routes. All remaining transit routes that

[48:03] have have less utilized or lower utilization for their for their stops, lower ridership. the remaining critical emergency response routes. And then we begin to incorporate steeper streets, and these would be the the steepest in the city, with grades of over 6.5 and now you can see on the slide over map here. Those those routes that we saw in the preceding slide are kind of faded into the background here, and you can see the the secondary routes from the existing program are the second priority routes. Under this, this, these proposed changes, these recommended changes overlaid on top and the boulder colors. And so you can. You can again compare and contrast the the changes so moving on to large storms. Now that third tier of storms which is any storm greater than 8 inches.

[49:00] first and Second priority streets would continue to be cleared as they went under under smaller storms. But third priority streets are proposed to be added. which consist of street segments with grades between 4% and 6.5%. And so these third priority streets would be clear 48 h after snow stops. And of course, for this icon, for before storm meets that again, that for forecasted large storms, transportation and mobility, crews would apply pre-treatment to those first and priority, first and Second priority streets. and again, that those Third priority streets are are emphasized on both of these maps, and you can see they primarily given. The criteria being driven by street grades, are on the western side of the city. with some exceptions. So before transitioning to multi-use paths and the bike network. I'd like to introduce a new bike route designation that was developed to be an input to the bike criteria

[50:08] or the proposed storm size approach. So this we're calling these cross-town bikeways. And they're bike facilities that are tagged. Specifically with his designation to create a network of primarily low stress, principal bike routes that utilize a combination of existing on street bike facilities and multi-use paths. So a combination of on and off street facilities. The routes provide access to key destinations, such as neighborhood centers. schools, parks and open space job centers and CEO campuses. So for the proposed changes to the snow and ice response program identifying these cross-town bikeways is critical to identify gaps in the existing plow network and improve connections between on and off street facilities and allow us to prioritize our our resources for the program. The routes are preliminary and will be updated based on feedback and as well as the completion of planned capital projects as those are implemented in the coming years.

[51:07] And this won't the we plan to. Not just keep this within the snow and ice program. It will also be utilized for an upcoming update to the bike map and potentially other transportation mobility programs and projects as well. So that provides some context as we dive into first, multi use paths. and so there are not major changes proposed to service on multi-space paths. As Ben mentioned. The feedback we received on on on clearing snow for Maltese Pass was was relatively positive. And and will we propose to continue to maintain all 36 path miles that are maintained by transportation and mobility. There are about 90 paths miles total in the city, but other entities maintain those remaining miles, including Parks and Rec, and see you and private property owners as well, but specifically for the the lines that you see lit up on this map.

[52:07] There would be no change to service there. But we are recommending data, different approach data, driven approach to prioritize service on highly utilized paths. And so this would include off street segments of those cross town bikeways that I just mentioned. and then given that our bike data citywide is not comprehensive. You know those eco counter loops that you see in some locations. It's not comprehensive citywide for the time being. We're leaning on strava data here, but filtering it to just rides that are tagged as commutes and we've done some sensitivity. Analysis of of this to kind of land on the threshold there that is shown in the table at 3,500 annual Strava commutes. But it allows us to kind of take a citywide

[53:02] citywide data source for utilization of the path network and an on street network, as you'll see in a second. Core. Arterial network paths would also be a first are proposed to be a first priority. and then all remaining paths would be second priority. And so again, this just establishes a data-driven framework using using these data sets and and mirrors. You know what we've done for streets and what you'll see for the on street bike network in a minute. And here this is just outlining this table is outlining the response. Time for first and second priority path segments and that they vary by storm size similar to the way that they do for streets. But you know, for any storm all 36 miles of paths that transportation and mobility maintains would would have snow cleared from them

[54:01] for all storms. So the city's multi-pads are an important component of the overall night bike network. But they provide limited connectivity on their own and so using the proposed criteria for on street bike facilities. Those would be, you know, anything from a neighborhood Green Street all the way up to a protected bike lane that that exist on street. the recommended changes propose 83% of the network on street network to be cleared according to storm size, which marks about a 4% increase over the existing program and the recommended criteria you see there in the table focuses on core arterial streets for all small small storms which includes the city's protected bike lanes on baseline, thirtieth in Colorado and Folsom, and potential future corridors as well, would be added to that, and second, the second criteria. Second priority criteria includes on street segments of the aforementioned crosstown bikeways and street segments, with more than 700 annual strava commutes

[55:11] these selections help staff better connect on street facilities and multi-use pads, enabling file service to be added to many Key Street segments to create a to create continuous bike routes that utilize multiple facility types. Please note that additional segments of the bike network are plowed if covered under transit and driving criteria. So this map you see on the right is not all encompassing. You might find segments that that do fall under other criteria, but this really demonstrates the criteria, the bike specific criteria you see on the left-hand side of your screen there. And again, this has that same slide over feature, showing the existing program in blue with the blue lines here, and the recommended changes. To plow routes or street scene class service with the green lines.

[56:04] and then, just to reiterate kind of what Scott mentioned at the start of the presentation. Protected bike, lane and intersection design can vary significantly in materials and and design. Our location. So, for example, some of our protective bike lanes are street level and others are sidewalk level. The type of vertical separation can also affect operations. And so as a result, snow and ice response requires tail learning service to each specific facility and deploying specialized plows, and in some cases even contracted shoveling to clear snow. and the department recently recently procured a specialized small plow to clear snow from existing protected bike lanes and intersections. But as additional facilities are constructed in the future through the department's capital projects, additional resources and equipment may be needed may be needed to maintain a high level of service or the bike network.

[57:01] So the final program component is shoveled areas. And so these are areas that are small. You know, really smaller constrained spaces. We're using the larger snow clearing equipment is not feasible. So what does that encompass? These are select curve ramps, Median refuge islands and bus stop platforms that are cleared by contractors, and so there are currently about 156, or there are 156 of these locations. 41 of which are transit stops. and then we also have some additional transit stops that are serviced by volunteers through the city's shovel. A stop program which represents about an additional 38 transit stops bringing the total number of cleared transit stops under the existing program to 79. And so the proposed criteria in the table Focuses those contractor resources at high and moderate ridership transit stops as well as high use crossings.

[58:00] And then third priority not shown here would be all transistops with low ridership of less than 35 riders per day to kind of drill down into those bus stops in a little bit more detail. This map shows the existing 79 thought, while this really shows both existing and recommended. And so the 79 stops that currently have snow removal fall under shovel, a stop and currently cleared by contractor. We also have a number of stops cleared by other agencies in yellow Cu and Rtd, specifically. And then using that data-driven criteria and to better meet the programs proposed purpose and goals. the changes would recommend it that an additional 36 stops be cleared with contractors, which would be an 8% increase in cleared stops compared to the existing program.

[59:01] and would result in all stops with more than 35 riders per day being cleared of snow. which totals out to about 40% of all 556 total stops in the city. And we're currently at just about just over 30% cleared. So the the recommended changes and the criteria proposal meaningful increase there and and bus stop clearance. And so at this point that wraps up the program, I'll turn it back over to Ben to the remaining slides. Thanks, Daniel. After applying all of this criteria. Then staff took a look at this resulting kind of coverage of our transportation network and went through a process of a of a screening? Or does this make sense? And does this kind of meet? The city's more overall goals around racial equity?

[60:05] And there's a number of different ways that we did this. one of those was kind of mentioned back earlier, where in some of our community engagement previously did, and future plan, which we'll get into connecting with our community connectors in residence and other other community groups to kind of delve deeper into how people experience our system also. Taking a look at how this affects our manufactured home communities and other major boulder housing project properties to make sure that folks can kind of connect into the rest of the system. And then what you see in front of you is Another way we screened, which was through through the city's racial equity index. And so, as a reminder that racial equity index is something that takes census block groups which are kind of geographically, roughly, 600 to 3,000 people.

[61:09] and it takes a number of factors, including race and socioeconomic factors like like your income and things like that, and puts them together into an indices. A rating from one to 5 on the leftmost column of this table. And so then, the highest priority, or the 5 in this case are areas of the city that that are the most racially differs and or the most economically differs. And when taking a look at our existing program and the recommended program using this all these new criteria that Daniel just explained. we we were hoping that, or we were looking at. We want this to not be a detriment to those that need our services the most and kind of if you move to the for this right column of this table, you see that there's an increase in the amount of the transportation transportation system

[62:15] clear to snow and ice for those that are of the highest priority. In our racial equity. Index. And this is something that as we fine tune or make any changes to our program, we can always check back into kind of these different methods to see how we're doing with that next slide, please, Dana. So we went through quite a number of different topics. And so this is a slide that we can get back to and talk over. But this is just kind of everything in summary that we've talked about. and a kind of something to reiterate was with our new, or with this kind of proposed recommendations we end up with a increase in can't be a number of lane miles, or in the number of the amount of street that we're surfacing, as well as the amount of our on street bike network and an increase in the number of transit stops that would be covered

[63:17] with with snow and ice clearing. But we can always get back to the, since this is a lot of information on here next, please. So when, after we go back to the community and see, does these changes meet their expectations. And as we make tweaks we're gonna be looking towards, how do we implement these things? And so when we do that, we will go to city council and ask for some sort of a budget request. If we increase the amount of infrastructure that we're servicing that money needs to come from either. Some needs to come from somewhere.

[64:02] and so then to kind of you know, ground us into what kind of order of magnitude. You know, do these impacts make Scott said. Earlier, our adopted budget this last year, or this current year is 1.8 4 million. And when we're thinking about how much? you know, some of the the resources that we need to clear streets like plows. Shawn at bottom there. You know that that also requires labor and people power. And so for each for each snow plow. If we were to purchase. Then we need 2 folks to operate that and just something to ground us in and stuff that staff has in the back of our heads as we're kind of moving towards some kind of implementation. Stuff we can talk about as we go along next slide, please.

[65:03] So with, this is a the timeline on the right is a repeat from earlier in the presentation. So we're here at our second round of engagements, or at the beginning of starting with a tap presentation here, and we are going to go out again with another on demand. Open house both in English and Spanish. To explain all the stuff that you've seen here today. Also, we will be reaching out and meeting with a number of community partners. If they are listed kind of here to kind of further our understanding of the impacts of the recommendations we're making. And we will be you know, once we have kind of a more finalized set of recommendations. And as we move towards some set of some sort of budget request. We'll have a third round of engagement kind of at the end there of this upcoming spring.

[66:06] and so we have the 3 questions for the board that were included in the memo, and then up here on the screen. and we are open for a discussion and questions. Thank you. Ben and Daniel. Any tab members have any questions or responses to these questions that are posed to us for Van Danieler Scott. I was there something. Chip? So I'll start with the questions, and then I'll and then, if you so I can then answer this. Daniel. Where do we go here? I have just a few quick questions. One II was trying to follow the very end there on the budget. It with the change is represented. And I'm not sure but could maybe, could you just comment on the what is the change in the the budget for this? But also relatively.

[67:10] is it kind of a 0 sum with respect to the change from where we were to where we do with respect to we have to take away parts to get parts? Or is there a chance that you found any kind of efficiency improvements with respect to how resources are you? Just just just curious. I might let Ben or Scott respond to that first. I can fill in, fill in for them after, but then feel free to take a crack at that. I'm also. I'm also happy to jump into, however helpful. So and and I'll I offered that because we didn't have the financials completed at this point. But we thought it was important to come and get your feedback. Before this, you know, got further along and kind of the financial analysis piece of the work. So we don't have you know what the financial impacts going to be with the recommended recommendations or the recommended changes.

[68:13] But we'll be working on that next and and it's it's not so much 0 sum, I think. You know. Obviously, everything's a trade off. So it's not necessarily 0 sum within the snow and ice program. But it's 0 sum with, you know, within the transportation fund. And so, as we look to invest more in snow. Nice maintenance, then that means it has to come from some other thing that we would spend money on in the transportation fund. Got it? Okay, Alex, I get. That was my one question. I have comments. But should I defer to you or others with questions? First. you can do comments down, too. Okay, great. Okay. So I did the question. That was the first question was your question, what additional information?

[69:07] So so I think this is ye? Yes, on question number 2, does the snow nice response review draft, anyway. additional information is what I recommend. Staff share so I guess maybe I'll blame the answer to that question and and my just general comments. So I'm curious to hear what my other, my colleague said, but II feel like this is a really incredible presentation. And I I really a few things that I really value. Here. One is the data. Some of some of the some of the corridors that I mentioned didn't didn't appear. But I you know, De Daniel, as you described you. You got a data driven approach here and that is using logic of the whole system of the city. And I just I don't. I can't think of seeing another presentation like this that looked at the whole city as a system, use data to to drive it. And I just, I'm I'm really pleased to see that here. And I'd love to see that repeated

[70:03] and secondly, the use of the technology with presentation. I, this is really, I just really helpful for I think people that see and comprehend, and just a really great presentation. And then, finally, III understand some of the work on the with respect to equity and community engagement is still ongoing. But we just complement so far on what seems to be a a a pretty pretty, thoughtful approach. And also, I think this looks like a really good example of using an equity analysis to consider the status quo. Now, the status quo can can change and needs to change. And I think that's great. So that's that was my comments. My, my only suggestion, and I think it says, maybe get to the third question is, I would be interested to, you know, recognizing that the budget is has some limit, and there's we're not going to be able to get everything done that we just.

[71:04] you know. However, this land. So you're able to flag and and write down the thing things that are outstanding that we're not getting to from a standpoint of accessibility and inclusion especially with respect to feedback from center for people with disabilities in the disability community. So that so the city Council and the public can see that and see that what we're not doing, and you know I ideally that would come with some direction on resources needed to address it, or what a next step would be but you know I that might. There might be a whole level of analysis. You can't do so, at least, leaving, you know, some sort of remainder. You're done with this and I would expect some of that to include sidewalk considerations that may be outside the scope of this, but from the standpoint of the public seems to be related. So that's all I have. Thank you. Thanks, Ryan. till

[72:01] thank you. I just wanted to chime in and say that I really, I was also very impressed with the analysis that I saw like this was kind of a really great example of data, driven analysis and decision making. And I, in particular, like the projects revised purpose and goals. I think that's that's getting much better wrapping our arms around much better what we ought to be looking for in terms of how to frame some community frustration that the that the street right outside their house is not getting cloud as quickly as they want. I think this is really really good, and in particular, this sort of joint framework about how serious the snow is and how critical the street is is a really great way to frame it. I kind of like the the graphic with that that 3 by 3 year. I'm sure. So on the data bit. I am leery about using strava data.

[73:06] I think it's probably useful should not be all that we use. And and and you know you might not be all that. So I'd be interested in hearing other other things like Strava data. But Strava bills itself as sort of a workout a, an exercise based a physical challenge kind of based app. And so it's really great that they have a a commuter thing. But that is not what most Java users use it for. I mean, I'm looking at their their home page right now, record, sweat, share kudos. It's it's to share your workout goals and stuff and so, to the extent we have other things to draw on about where how people are using, especially the multi use paths. I'm reminded, or I, if I recall correctly our

[74:00] in terms of service with at least the line scooters. And possibly you're not recycle. Includes the city's ability to access and utilize anonymized user data about where they're going? are we also? Are we using that for this purpose to the extent that we're, you know, relying on Stravin and tell us where cyclists want to go. Are we also looking at where line scooter users and the cycle users want to go? That's a great suggestion, Tila. We did not map that as we were developing criteria. But I know II know we well, maybe the Scooter team. I know Valerie maybe could speak to some of the data we're beginning to receive from from lime on the scooter side. How that's being collected by the city or viewable by the city. But I think it's a great place where we could. We could eventually take a pass at that and see if we could access that for the purposes of kind of comparing that to the Strava data and agree with some of

[75:08] your concerns. About that data set we in. It wasn't the only criteria proposed here, and we did kind of use it to validate both our our identification of those cross town bike ways I mentioned, as well as check it against our eco counters. You know our our location? Yeah, where where they exist to confirm that kind of matches up with what we're seeing at those spot locations and also is consistent with those kind of principal bike routes that we want to focus service on network wide but point taken on on Strava as a platform as a data source. There. Yeah, I mean, it's great. They're using it. But I would just like to think about other ways that we can, you know, pull similar data from other sources, because Strava is definitely not a great way to show what everyday cyclists are. You know, expecting to find or expecting to go.

[76:06] I just wanna add, I mean, III agree with you that most people on Strava are athletes, and at the same time I know that there's a there's a division of Strava called Metro, which provides this data to a lot of cities and planners. And just, it's very, very useful. So I what I would suggest, instead of like overlooking, you know, the positive things that they could bring to the table is that we also consider all of the athletic rights right? Because I use Strava on a regular basis, and with meeting or not, I'm not like specifying where I'm going or what I'm doing. I mean, I just, you know, like, really take the time to do. But I am on the platform. I use it all the time. And so maybe just think about it like that, too, just not eliminating rides that could potentially be commute because they're not labeled as such because they're not tagged that way. Yeah, that's that's useful. I did not know about Metro. That's great trainee. Of course, like what we don't want to do is

[77:14] Just get everything from one clear road for leisure writers who are not going to go out with it's I see, or snowy and I think that's why that's really why the B cycle data and the line data might be, you know, very useful, because those are shorter utility trips generally. No one. No one's trying to get a workout. Most be cycle bikes. So I wanted to raise that second thing I forgot. Third thing. I'll go back to. The second thing, I'm sure. Third thing is as I recall I think right at the end of Bill Cowan's term as a as director. It was, it was like the snowiest boulder was the snowiest city in America when one winter Bill Cowan was at the helm

[78:02] and we have one really heavy late season dump of snow. and that single snowfall. As I recall. we had to ask for extra money and something on the order of 4.5,000 $450,000 for a single snow event. And so I recognize that 1.8 million is a nice big a bump up from 1.4 million but at the time when that extra expenditure got, you know, blessed and and and authorized. I think Sam Waver was the mayor at the time, and he said, You know climate change is coming. These snow events are going to get larger, more frequent, and more severe. And so I think it would do staff well in framing budget discussions going forward to say, this is likely to become an even bigger ticket item every year. Recognizing we've already. you know, bumped up requests to reflect inflation in in the price of of asphalt and concrete and things. The likelihood of having really big

[79:13] snow. Events that are quite expensive to manage is going to be something for city council to wrestle with. do we maintain current community expectations about how quickly and how responsibly city staff clears the streets? Or do we tell them? You know you're gonna have to Accept a little worse condition on the road, because weather patterns are getting worse. But I do think it would be worth your while staff to lay the groundwork for asking more and more money, or asking more and more forgiveness. More money either to keep keeps things at at at the standards that the that the community has come to expect or forgiveness for not being able to keep up with that, because like the atmosphere, is actually conspiring against us.

[80:11] The third thing just flashed into my head, and then it went back out. Oh, here it is! for minor snow events the one to 3 inches. I am curious. Obviously, we're doing preparation ahead of these snow events based on a the forecast right? And we're anticipating how much snow there is based on the forecasts are getting really delightfully accurate. Not perfect. But I'm wondering if in any of the decision to pre-treat, or how frequently to plow during events, if there's any attention paid to what the forecast is, post the snow event. So if it's a one to 3 inch snowfall, and yet the forecast temperature 2 days from now is 65 degrees.

[81:03] I would think the city would be highly justified in doing almost nothing to clear the snow on anything but the most critical routes. Whereas, if there's a moderate snow event, and the forecast says the temperature is not expected to exceed freezing for 4 or 5 days, and there's a good likelihood of another snow event. We might expect a different response. Or be more forgiving of of the of the city response. Is there any leeway in the plan right now about what the forecast post a snow event is? If there isn't currently any consideration for after storm. I think one thing that would benefit us from a warm up immediately after the storm is that that 24 h or 12 h will be reduced because of those increase in temperatures. And our after start clean up will be much quicker as well.

[82:10] as far as for the opposite. And you know, if there's snow expected 2 days later, and and incredibly cold temperatures. the plan itself doesn't take that into account. But staff will so in we we do that in our current approach, that if we know that there is an additional 8 inch storm coming after an 8 inch storm. we're more likely to move things closer to the outside. Allow ourselves some more room, because we know there's going to be additional snowfall that we need to slip. but that that is, that is a good consideration team. We'll go and believe that in our our considerations. Yeah, II mean, I hesitate to to to make the storm response, to formulate and to remove some of the human judgment you just described.

[83:07] I think one overarching. And and I think Ryan touched on this one overarching like theme, is that this? There was some very real world practical thinking that went into this. II just commend you on The thinking and the preparation, and the the sophistication of the planning that I'm seeing in this this document. I think it's pretty great congratulations. Thank you. Tila Trenni. Did you have anything? If not, it looks like Becky. Does Becky go ahead? Thanks. Yeah, I just wanted to echo what others have said about that it's like really well communicated and presented, and I think will be super helpful people to understand whether or not there. The street they're thinking about. You know, is on the map. I think it's it's yeah, really, really well communicated individuals to even like the credit card and water bottle size of how much snow there is, you know, that's all really great.

[84:18] And also the the kind of cross town bikeways piece that is like, so my understanding is that that's and so that's a new designation. Is that right? Yeah. Let's, you know, always always appreciate when a project can develop something that's then, you know, able to inform other work. So so that's a really neat aspect of this as well. So I don't have. I don't have many much else in the way of comments, so I do have. I'm sorry to ask one budget question, because I know you said that, Natalie, that the budget, you know piece isn't is fully known yet, but I'm curious if this framework would. The way that it prioritizes

[85:01] different areas, based on the conditions discussed. If that prioritization would then be used to scale a program if, like the full budget amount wasn't available, or if that would be kind of a different set of considerations. Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm happy to just comment on that. II mean, I think that's an interesting idea. I'm not sure if the team has gotten that far to consider the using that kind of prioritization to scale and kind of like phase. Some of these recommendations, Scott, do you have anything more to share on that? Yeah, yeah. So the the way it is built is is very much that it's scalable. So we can, we can scale up with with this we could scale down if we, you know, see, times of staff turnover and and staff issues. We're able to go both ways. This which is really

[86:00] that's has interested me along the way with this outscale. Great? Yeah, thank you. For that response. And yeah. Lastly, I can appreciate that I really haven't thought about it, but just the difference in all the different kinds of facilities and new facilities, and how that affects, you know, meeting to change operations and planning. So thank you for all the work that goes into adapting to that. So yeah. So it's a great project and appreciate the presentation tonight. Yeah, that killed it. We've heard from others. It's great to see how data driven. This is, how network-focused. That's the hearing about the new prioritized bike, cross down bikeways, making sure that those are providing important connections within the network. Is a an approach that I like others II really appreciate. and a very cool use of the mapping that was a really neat tool I've never seen utilized before, being able to sort of live zoom in zoom out on mapping, and curious to see how the city can continue utilize that in the future I think that'll be really beneficial in communicating with the community. It's really clear what the expectations are transparent, I think managing expectations with star removals

[87:19] almost impossible. But if anyone were to spend some time trying to figure out what to expect. This would clearly communicate that that for them. So I think to your your second question here. What you've outlined is has really. I think it's well aligned with the the purpose and goals. I'm looking forward to see how this develops. And as we continue to build out more protected bicycle infrastructure. I hope there's some economies of scale of you know. Would you more network effect there, where one where one segment ends, another one picks up. And so it's less of that time spent relocating specialty equipment. But the specialty equipment has a network of its own. Just to continue on. So there's some long-term benefit as we build more out hopefully in the future. But yeah, very well done.

[88:05] Tila. Did you have something else. if I may just for a second gush about Scott and our maintenance team. You know, I think we've been reflecting a lot lately, just given the new infrastructure. That you know, is different than a lot of cities have. And then we've had in the past that require just more innovative approach to maintaining our system. And Scott's been very open and innovative, and just like willing to take on that challenge. And he's cultivating a team that can also like, appreciate that and be excited about that. I think. You know, historically and traditionally, public works, you know, and maintenance teams are not super excited about having a diversity of infrastructure on their systems. And he and I spend a lot of time just talking about that and talking about. How can we help people feel excited about getting to do this work in our city? So just wanted to give a little bit of praise to Scott.

[89:04] Thanks. Well done, Scott. Anything else from Tab, or a little behind schedule? Very worthwhile discussion. But if there's nothing else, I'll thank the team. Scott, Ben and Daniel, and continue on with our agenda next up. Visit. Item 7 matters first, matters from city staff. Yes, thank you. And we do have one item tonight, and Devin is back with us to give it update. Thank you. Thank you, Natalie. Let me share my screen. Alright. Good evening, Tab. My name is Devin Jocelyn. I'm the city's principal traffic engineer. and I'm excited to be here tonight to present an Update on expansion of the photo enforcement program.

[90:01] I have with me tonight. Not in a Van Joe Van, the Photo Enforcement Supervisor to answer any questions that I'm unable to about specific details about the photo enforcement program. Similar to what Natalie just said. I'm very proud of staff for hitting the ground, running on this and really working hard to get this program expanded as quickly as possible. In compliance with the law. it's really amazing that the law, allowing for expansion of automated enforcement on 2 more types of streets was signed by Governor Polis into law in early June, and staff from transportation and mobility. The police department and the city attorney's office are prepared to have City Council adopt a resolution early next month to designate corridors, to allow for expanded automated enforcement within the city. To my knowledge, boulder will be the first city in the State to hopefully adopt a resolution designating corridors for automated enforcement.

[91:09] There are a few things out of our control, which I'll explain later in the presentation. But we're not letting that slow us down. We're still advancing this important work. There are 3 main things I want to talk about tonight. The background of photo enforcement within the city of Boulder and the passage of Sp. Senate Bill 23200, which allows for expansion of automated enforcement. The process staff used to determine corridors to designate as automated vehicle identification corridors in compliance with the new law, and the next steps for what can be expected in 2024 in terms of program expansion. Some of you may know this already. But I was actually somewhat surprised to learn. That Boulder has had a photo traffic enforcement program for 25 years, going all the way back to 1998.

[92:08] But in those 25 years the program has grown to include 180 plus neighborhood photo radar van deployment locations. There are 5 full time and 2 part time photo enforcement officers. 2 photo radar vans and 11 red light running cameras. So that's quite an impressive history. And we're excited to be adding to that history. In this moment. We know from the safe streets, report that one out of every 3 fatal and serious injury crashes between 2018 and 2020 involve speeding. We know also, from our review of crash data that speed related crashes accounted for an average of 7 severe and 65 total crashes per year from 2018 through 2022.

[93:02] And we know that crash data indicates that 67% of all fatal and serious injury crashes within the city occurred on arterial arterial roadways. I do wanna note and give thanks to both City Council and the Transportation Advisory Board, who strongly supported the passage of Senate Bill 23200 recognizing that it was essential to achieving the city's vision 0 goal. Within the vision 0 action plan. You'll recall that. That plan contains an action which is focused on strategically expanding deployment of automated vehicle identification systems, including both fixed and mobile speed enforcement where allowed by State law. and just as a refresher prior to the passage of Senate Bill 23200

[94:01] photo enforcement operations by the city of Boulder were restricted to residential neighborhood streets with speed limits of 35 miles per hour or less within school zones adjacent to a park or in active construction zones. With the passage of Senate Bill 23200. The Colorado Revised Statutes 42, 4, 1, 10, dot 5, 2 g. For those who might be interested in the specific state statute. That was amended, and now allows for the expanded use of municipalities of automated vehicle identification systems on any street or portion of a street that has been designated as an automated vehicle identification corridor. and the law requires that corridors be designated by ordinance or resolution of its governing body.

[95:00] I want to point out that there is within boulder revised code. 7, 4, 74 is what authorizes the use of automated enforcement systems within the city, and the city attorney's office advised that no update was needed to the Brc. In order to comply with the new law. For this reason Staff is asking City Council to adopt a resolution to designate corridors as automated vehicle identification corridors. I'll talk briefly on this slide and the next few about the process that we used to determine which corridor should be designated the new law requires that corridors be designated, based on review of data collected within the past 5 years, related to incidents of crashes, speeding, reckless driving or community of complaints, of speeding on a street

[96:01] as such transportation and mobility and police department staff reviewed crash data and calls to police dispatch regarding complaints of speeding or reckless driving. This data was used as a basis for determining which corridors should be designated via Resolution for City Council the city attorney's office was instrumental in writing the Resolution and advising us on making sure that the data we reviewed was appropriate, to determine the corridors to be designated the city attorney's office also advised that State-owned corridors which are the portions of State highways that run through Boulder city limits, could be designated as automated vehicle identification corridors at this time. However. transportation and mobility staff will need to coordinate with cdot and get concurrence on the final limits of the corridors

[97:03] before an automated enforcement can begin on State-owned corridors. And this is a 2024 work plan item for transportation and mobility. Staff. And I just want to point out that the Resolution is currently on the Council Calendar and on their consent agenda for the December Seventh City Council Meeting. The map on the left of this slide illustrates the location where crashes that were a result of exceeding the safe speed limit or traveling at 10 miles per hour or more above the posted speed limit occurred within the most recent 5 year period from 2018, through the end of August 2023 as can be seen, many of these crashes occur on the city's expressway, principal arterial and minor arterial streets, and also those that have some of our higher speed limits.

[98:02] The map on the right illustrates those same speed related crashes. In a heat map. The map illustrates that there are speed related crashes along the extents of the corridors that are recommended to be designated in the resolution. This map illustrates a heat map of speeding related calls to police dispatch. This shows where community complaints of speeding have been noted. You can see that there are clusters of palls at intersections along the arterial streets, but the map also illustrates that speeding concerns are reported across the entire city. you can see also here that where there is the highest frequency of police related calls about speeding correlate with the crash data as well. And these 2 things were very key considerations in determining the corridors we want to designate.

[99:06] So this map shows the corridors that will be designated by resolution as automated vehicle identification corridors. The dark blue line shows the city owned corridors and the light blue line shows the State owned corridors, and again, the State owned corridors are ones where c.is in the process of developing guidelines. For how they want to handle automated enforcement on State highways, and we're going to continue to coordinate with them on any steps necessary to formalize the designation of the State highway corridors in accordance with sea dot guidelines. The other thing to point out on this slide is that the corridors that are not designated specifically designated as automated vehicle identification corridors. Those corridors can continue to be enforced. Because they are still in compliance with the law that they're

[100:06] on residential neighborhoods speed less than 35 miles per hour. So they don't specifically have to be designated in order for enforcement to to continue to occur. and then, just in full awareness for all enforcement could occur anywhere on the extents of a corridor that is designated for automated enforcement. and then just wanted to point out as well the correlation of the corridors that are designated to the location of our existing 11 red light running cameras as well as the 2 cameras that are currently planned to be added. And if you'll recall, those are at 20 Eighth Street and J Road for the southbound approach and Canyon Boulevard at Fifteenth for the westbound approach.

[101:00] This is important because our red light running cameras can be used to enforce speeding at intersections if the functionality to do so is enabled. And this is one method of implementation that transportation and mobility and police department staff are considering as a means of adding fixed speed cameras. and you'll note that the red light running camera at Broadway and Pine is the only location that is not on a State-owned corridor in terms of the City Council resolution. I mentioned earlier that that is, on the December seventh City Council consent agenda. and the Resolution asked Council to resolve 2 things, to approve the expanded use of automated vehicle identification systems on Boulder's streets. and to approve the designation of certain streets as automated vehicle identification corridors.

[102:07] Noting that the specific extent of the designation on each portion of the State-owned corridors will be determined in consultation with the Colorado Department of Transportation. Oh. so in terms of next steps, the intended outcomes of the photo enforcement program expansion are to reduce speed-related, fatal and serious injury crashes increase awareness of speed, enforcement on boulders, streets reduce speeding and increase the sense of community safety in terms of program expansion. That is an ongoing process. That will be initiated in 2024. It's difficult at this time to estimate exactly when and how many sites will become operational immediately. But this is something we'll keep you posted on.

[103:04] And again, just a reminder that we will be working with Cdot to finalize the designation and allow for deployment on those state-owned corridors. But that's what I had for my update, and I'm happy to take any questions. You might have. Thanks, Devin any questions. Trenni. Hi, Devin, thank you for your presentation. And yeah, it's been an incredible process. And it's been so exciting to see that that this is actually coming to life, and that we're pioneering this effort. But I guess II was kind of like shocked that we're gonna have to like hold off until cdot kind of clears the the state on roads. So what do you think is the timeline is because Broadway is such a big issue right? And all the way, like there's a stretch of it, obviously, that is being taken care of. But the one that doesn't belong to us per se. that's a huge problem.

[104:09] So it's just very. II don't know. It was kind of like to see that that's gonna be something that we're gonna have to wait for. So do you have any idea what the timeline might be? I don't have an exact timeline. We've been in close communication with C. Dot. They have been a little coy about the timing of their their guidelines, and when they'll make them available but as soon as they do, it is something that we're ready to jump on and begin working with them to get those corridors kind of formally designated to allow for enforcement to occur. And I just wanna give credit to the city attorney's office because they navigated some law for us and came to the interpretation that we are able to include those corridors in our resolution at this time.

[105:09] which saves us the trouble of having to either amend the resolution at a later date to add them in, or to amend it to like, be more specific about the extent of the corridor. So in that regard, we're set up well with the way the resolutions written that once we get the final concurrence from Cdoc, we can begin enforcement right away. Is there any way that they that we could override. Because, given that, that's part of like our high impact network. really, the the need, the high need. especially to that particular stretch of Broadway in particular. I don't believe we can. I mean, it's something I could potentially re explore with the city attorney's office. But there is

[106:00] a specific clause in the law that says the corridors also must be designated. you know, in collaboration or in consultation with the Colorado Department of Transportation. Yeah, well, thank you, Devin, thank you so much. You're welcome. Thanks, Devin. It's exciting to have this new Enforcement tool in our tool box so open the skits implemented as swiftly as possible any other feedback or tila questions from Tab. Yeah, thank you, Devin. You took some wind out of my sales because I was in open board comment, or in the the like. Next agenda. I was gonna ask for this subject to be brought before us next month, so really happy to hear it. And would you be willing to forward us the slides that you'd use this evening? Sure. and I believe that a member of city staff is, would they were scheduled to come to community cycles Advocacy Committee, I think, this month on snow and ice removal.

[107:09] But from my recent speaking with them they're actually much more interested in this subject, so I don't know if you would be available in December or January to come to Cic and talk to them. I'm sure they'll have some questions, but I think your explanation tonight and the slides are probably gonna answer most of their questions. But I would just like to extend speak for them, but Pretty sure they'd be interested in talking to you about this, so I hope you'd be willing to to meet with them and answer some further questions. But this is really really exciting. I gather we are confident that city council will support the resolution. There's no action or or nudging required by tab at them. At this time Natalie might have more insight into that. I mean at this point it is currently remains on the consent agenda, which usually means that it's not controversial. I expect it to be adopted.

[108:10] Yup. Nothing, nothing other than what? Devin said. Okay, great. Thank you. Good job. Happy to hear this. Just a quick writer on that, does it? Is it helpful if you, if you're able to say that the tab is supportive. I don't. I mean, I don't know if there's a procedural way to do that. But oh, well, that is a good point, Ryan. There is a section we are including a memo like a cover memo to council. That will explain in a little more detail similar to what I did tonight, the data and the process that we use to designate the corridors and the the resolution then gets attached to that memo. But there is a section within that memo that points out. Did we bring it to the board? What was their feedback? So in that sense, I think. Yes, if a formal feedback or not of approval from Tab might be

[109:03] helpful. But I don't know if that can be done in this matters from staff format or not. Right point of order. We can't make any formal action at the moment, but I am on record as a personal member of Tab as being in support of this. It sounds like Tweetie was so Ryan is, and I'm curious if other members of the Board might say something like that. Believe I've supported this in the past on the record, and will continue to. Yes, I am also supportive. Do with that what you can or wish. Hmm. great, that's all we yeah, that's all we have under matters tonight. Thanks. Well, we'll move on to matters from the board. Think the only thing on our agenda is Becky's update on updating parking. Yeah, thanks. So I have been doing outreach to other boards board members

[110:04] members of other boards. so, addressing our request to council around updating the off street, parking rules and ordinances. And so I about wrap that up. We have 28, maybe 29 folks signed on from 10 different boards. So I really, really pleased about that. I think it's great to show that this issue is, you know, not definitely not just a transportation issue or a housing issue. It's really affects a lot of areas that boards work on. One example being, you know, our water resources and all the water infrastructure and how excess runoff included runoff affects that. And so just getting the support from a lot of different boards helps kind of illustrate that it's a broader, it's a much broader issue, and therefore, you know, more more incentive for council to take it up and and really seriously consider it, and try to get it done within their

[111:00] within the framework of their next sort of priority agenda priorities. I just to give you a little insight on this for folks who didn't sign on. From what I know. Mostly in most cases, people just didn't respond to my email. So I don't. That's not really a yes or no, just you know, I just didn't hear back. There were a few folks who just felt like they didn't. They didn't know enough. They wanted to learn more before they would feel ready. There were There were a few people who were definitely interested in revising the rules, but not ready to say for sure. They wanted to eliminate all parking minimums. So that's not, you know, not surprising either. So any of these was just like maybe a couple of people each and then. lastly, there were maybe 2 or 3 folks who felt like they couldn't comment on something that wasn't brought to them formally in a meeting. In some cases that was expressed as a preference, and then some. In one case, somebody said they were told that, so I don't know who told them. That cause that was one of the sort of challenges of doing this outreach is.

[112:10] People felt like they couldn't speak to it. And I would try to explain that. Yes, you can. As an individual board member. Yeah, you can endorse. Essentially, a policy proposal in the same way that you can endorse a Council member running for office, or or a candidate running for Council. But I think that is a point of confusion for a lot of what board members is where this fell within their purview. So, thinking about the the broader effort around revising change. Or you know, updating how boards and commissions work. You know, there was some some results of that that work recently that were released. I think you know, hopefully, part of that could be clarifying this for people when they're joining boards and commissions. Their ability, you know, to speak for themselves as board members on issues. But of course, if they choose not to, that is understandable too. Excuse me. I meant give themselves on issues that weren't necessarily brought to them by the city that they are allowed to do that, clarifying that specifically but yeah, can can understand reasons why some folks didn't say on like I said in most cases.

[113:13] folks just didn't write back pretty good, though, for email, which is not always the the easiest medium. So the next step is to reach out to council members. New members as well as folks continuing on so once the election fully wraps up. Then. I'll start on that. And if anybody wants to to join me in meeting with Council members at any point, let me know first, we can only have only have 2 of us reach for those meetings. But if you would like to be one of those people in one of those any of those meetings. Just let me know and I'll happy to include you. That'll probably happen. I'll try to get talk to some folks before you know, before the end of the year, but probably some a number will be in January, I would think. I I'm trying to remember, is the retreat is in March. The Council retreats in March. Is that right? Yeah. Okay.

[114:05] great thanks. So we have some time. and then, yeah. Lastly, I probably fun to note that Austin removed parking minimums throughout the city. On November second. So it became by doing that it became the biggest city in the us to take this step in updating their parking policy. and they also have a council manager form of government. So similarly, it was passed, you know, with a majority of council members. So it's good inspiration for for for us moving forward. And then oh, one more thing I'll add, since you brought up Tila earlier in talking about the Mpp. And you know the recommendations we might have, I'd be yeah happy to chat about that more. I certainly haven't. I've been like very focused in my hours just on this off street stuff, and haven't done any other, you know. Worked on any other part or thought about any of the other parts of

[115:03] the on street management. And I do think there are probably a few recommendations. We, as a group could come to based on conversations we've had over time. I think it might be difficult to communicate them at the same time to council members. I don't know. I'm but I'd be interested in hearing other thoughts on like how to like would be the most effective way to go about that so yeah, we'd love to talk about it more, though. Thank you. This is so. I'm I'm so impressed with the reach outreach that you've done I have on election night. I had someone approach me. She is on, I think, on Osmp, which is like I. Who is this person? What is this thing what's going on? And so I think for some of those holdouts who think that or who aren't sure that they have enough information, aren't sure where they're coming, where you're coming from. Do you feel free to send them my way, I think, coming out of our tab retreat? You and I were sort of tasked with with teaming up on on this effort, and so

[116:07] as the second in line, I'm definitely taking for a second fiddle what you the efforts you've done. But if you think it's worth trying to wrangle another, you know 3 or 4 people I may be able to to assuage the concerns of some of the people. Who've told you they don't. They're not sure they don't understand. They're not, you know, sure where this is coming from. So I'm I'm happy. And I do have time at the moment to to handle some of that great thanks. Yeah, I appreciate it. And I'll definitely, definitely definitely let you know. II figure also, you know, folks who maybe don't feel ready. Now, if if this item does make onto Councils agenda, and then is going to come to boards. That'll be another opportunity for us to go back and engage with folks and say, Okay, well, now, this is a formal city item. Let's let's chat about it. So I look forward to that, too. And yeah, but really appreciate you're offered help, I'll keep you posted.

[117:01] Yeah, thanks, Becky, and you've assembled a very impressive roster so far, and Antila, whoever you can add, would be, would be great, and I look forward to seeing like the 2 of you can do as far as bringing that to the individual councilmembers and walking them through the the process, and maybe that would be a good opportunity to speak to the the Nvp. And maybe that's something we can talk about as a board between now and then. Alex, can I also just quickly add my my audits? Ii thank you, Becky. I this is really impressive leadership, and the easiest thing for a board member to do is to just take the things that come in front of them. But you you had a real vision here, and this is this is really like high value. Add for for a board member. And this is we should. This is like what board members should be doing. So. I think it's you you're you're a role model for for other board members to have vision and to go after it, and I'm grateful for that. Thank you. Well, thank you. That's I appreciate everyone's everyone's support in the endeavor and stuff. Yeah. it's been fun to reach out and connect with folks on other boards. So

[118:07] yeah, so. But I'll I'll keep everyone posted as we keep rolling here. Sounds good before we talk about Ryan, and maybe give Ryan a chance to speak. Does the Board members have any other things they'd like to bring up under matters? I just want to invite everybody to the role day of remembrance. It's the Sunday at 11 Am. We're co-hosting with the city of Boulder. And hopefully, everybody here can make it. We're gonna have a crash survivor speak. She's a member of our community evenings, Laurel and the mayor is gonna speak, and some council members as well. And hopefully, someone from Tab beyond me. anyway, hope to see you guys there. And so we're meeting. It's meet you're meeting at the courthouse on 14 Street, on pro Street Mall.

[119:00] Thank you so much to like. Yes, 11 am. Like we did last year. It's gonna be nice and sunny, and it'll be wonderful. Okay. So after we, we hear from people who and we'll finished at the tea house, we're including Boulder high just to include Magnus White. So And that's all I have. Thank you. Hey? Thank you for that reminder. With that we know we're all in the midst of an election where everyone's vote gets to get counted, and we're still a few days away from being at that point. But as the votes currently fall, Ryan is, and place to be elected to council, so nothing's definitive as of now, so we didn't put it on the agenda, but we wanted to acknowledge that this might be Ryan's last Tab meeting and this capacity.

[120:02] and if it is, thank him for his service to this board. it's not. We will. We will welcome you back a pleasure to have you back. But hopefully, that's not the case. So we'll sort of awkward timing with with this meeting and the the way the the tallying is going. But. Brian, thank you. You've been a tremendous voice on this board for the last 3 years, the way you've gotten and so involved in the community so quickly. It's been impressive, and would be well suited to have you serving us on on council so hopefully. That's that's what we get to to see. And II think Brian might have some some words and some ideas. But before we let him talk, if anyone else has anything say about Ryan service feel free to to chip in. Well, I talked Ryan into applying for Tab. and I tried to talk him out of running for council.

[121:02] And this is one of the rare occasions. I have a difficult time articulating my feelings. but it has been an absolute. gratifying pleasure to pull you in and to see you jump off the next cliff. It's been terrific. I am so proud of you! I'm so proud of knowing you. and I think, you have been very consequential in your time on the board. So personally, I would like to see you continue, but if you have to go on and be one of the boss. People. Go on and be one of the boss people and don't forget us little people. Well, I just wanna say, thank you, Ryan for everything, everything that you have brought to the board and everything. I got to know Ryan a lot more on our journeys to Necto, and it was really cool to see how you flourished in that whole week.

[122:10] and how excited you were about council. So I am really, really happy. And okay, I'm I'm jumping. But but II really hope that that you are that you get one of those seeds, because it will be incredible to know that our voice is there with you. So thank you. Sad. Yeah. I'll follow up on what Tony said, and it's thank you for writing in general running for council. It's a huge undertaking sorry to. I wasn't sure what you're reacting to. But yeah, so thank you for writing for council. And yeah, your willingness like to serve on the board, but then to connect beyond and to serve on council. And I think ultimately.

[123:08] that's really how transportation changes like across the country is changing our. You know how our leaders view it and what they're willing to do to change it and invest in it. So I think it's just really the is. Ultimately the most critical thing is having people in office who are who are committed to that so so thank you for for recognizing that and and pursuing it, and of course, for everything you've contributed during your time on the board. Well, said everyone, looking forward to your your bold leadership, whether it's here hopefully there. Alright, thanks, Alex, thanks everybody. Should I say something now and then? We okay? Well, yeah, kind of a kind of kind of an odd, odd goodbye. Not clear. If I'm hired for the next job or not. Hopefully, we won't have to do this again, but if we

[124:04] good good so I'll knock on wood and say a few words. I guess So 3 things. So First, I would just like to share that if I do end up leaving Tab at for city council, it it is in the mission of transportation and it is the experience here with Tab that's got got me wanting to do this. I've gotten to know the transportation team and the department as one of the the things that has the greatest impact on people's day to day. Life experiences boulder and it, the Transportation Department and our transportation initiatives is the value center for the community. It is something that we put money into and resources into. We get things back. We get money back both households and the city. And I'm just really excited about try and create more. So more resources and support and space for this team to do that work, and at the same time to advance.

[125:07] I guess a sense of accountability that that's something this department should be doing. And so that's the direct work we've been doing. It's to more integrated land, use policy or work with land use. And then with wider regional and state work. So anyway, just to just to state that may be the obvious, which is yeah, I'm heading to council hopefully with the transportation agenda. Second thing is, I am I've just blown away with what Natalie Valerie the team have built over both of your tenures and others. Here. I'm really just so excited about the direction of things. The infrastructure programs. the folks on vision 0 and and bringing policy, ideas, advocacy, ideas like we just heard from Devon. The data driven systems work like from Daniel team. And I'm just thinking about today. But I'm just really optimistic about where the department and the city through transportation is going

[126:02] and if I had to offer one word of guess, course clarity it would be on can, and just maybe some gentle encouragement to say that from my perspective. the full intent of can is to create no compromise protection for people who are outside of cars on our arterials. It is explicitly a commitment to make protected bike lanes on Iris that was in written into the staffs, or excuse me, the Council's presentation. that is viewable on Youtube as part of the retreat, and it was the basis for a 9 0 vote to make it a work plan priority. So you know, I've been to some community meetings, and I've heard, you know some I don't know. Maybe that's not clear to the community. And so I think it's not something the department really has face to back off on. It's it's codified, and we need to get it on track. And if residents have a problem with that, then refer it to city council.

[127:04] So that's my second thing. And the third thing is just a final thought on what I think, is overcoming what is one of our biggest barriers to doing more? And that's change management at the community level. And to the extent I'm in this role on the board to bring my own specific perspective. I guess I would just try to offer something new today and say. as somebody who spent quite a bit of time talking with community members over the last few months, literally campaigning for for office. II think that it's important for us to think about that. The the real big improvement opportunities we have to make in our transportation system represent disruption by definition. and to do just to to make this transformation and work through disruption in any setting requires change management. And so change management. That makes it clear to the participants what we're doing. What's the vision. What are what are the exciting things moving towards?

[128:06] What are the benefits that will accrue? Why is it urgent? And there's different change management frameworks so pick whatever. But but just to point out that I think a lot of our community members don't have a lot of understanding about the the great benefits that will come when we make our system systematically safer, and we give people a chance to live more freely without a car or with less, with less need for a car, and I think we have some work to do as I guess council as a political body, as our as our executive level within staff and with our transportation department to sell this to sell this to the community and and and not just, you know, kind of go unit by unit sort of quietly along. We we need to. We need to really sell it. And again, I think this is rooted in evidence based study of change management. And it's it's gonna be the most important thing for

[129:02] for our success. So I hope to be partnering that and helping the community understand the great opportunity to make our transportation system and our community safer, more affordable, more inclusive. But we're gonna have to sell it. And II think that's gonna be someone should think more about together. So I'll just close and thank thank you again. Natalie and Valerie and the rest of the team for your tutelage and partnership, and also Tila for getting me into this, and Alex and Tony Becki for everything. So I think that's it. I'll sign up. Thanks, Ryan. I was just gonna add, thanks, Ryan. And yeah, hopefully, you know, we'll keep working together. Absolutely. Think that concludes matters agenda topic. A future agenda topics looks like a light December schedule.

[130:03] Please let me know if there's anything that's that's super pressing. You'd like to discuss in December. that sounds like if Staff might might not have a whole lot. We've considered post not doing that meeting and just reconvening after the New Year. So if there's any strong reason to do a December meeting, please let deal this isn't really so much about agenda topics in December. But typically around this time of year we would be doing our letter to council for their retreat, and then we would have a retreat a little bit later. Given that the Council retreats in March. Are we anticipating a March retreat, or will it be later than that? Right? So we so we haven't received any communication about a letter for from boards to council. So we'll we'll share that if we do get any, you know. Request for that. But to my knowledge, Meredith, please jump in and correct me if if yeah, here we're, I'm I'm

[131:13] almost positive that there hasn't been a request yet, so we will definitely keep you all apprised when we learn about that or what the request is. And then, as far as the timing of our retreat. we can consider something around the same time, or closely following. I think we had been kind of timing it around that may timeframe the last couple of years. But if there's an interest in timing it differently, we're open to that just certainly, you know, we can stay in conversation about it. I think, with the Counts retreat. The counts for treat list. This year's upcoming year will be later than typical, so the letter process will probably start a little late as well.

[132:05] Okay, with that that concludes our agenda for this evening. So entertain a motion to adjourn training with the motion. I second oh, training with the motion, Becky at the second, all those in favor. second. unanimous with 5. That's thank you. Everyone. There we go there right.