November 14, 2022 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:01] Now, so we should be good. Sydney. Are you our technical host for the evening? Awesome. So i'll call to order the Transportation Advisory board meeting for November fourteenth, two thousand and twenty-two um! And before we get started with our business, i'll turn it over to Sydney for some ground. Rules, you. Okay? So uh, we are pleased to have you join us to start the balance between meaningful transparent engagement and online security. The following rules will be applied for this meeting. This meeting has been called to conduct the business of the city of Boulder. Activities that disrupt delay or otherwise interfere with the meeting are prohibited, the time for speaking or asking questions will be limited to three minutes. No person shall speak except we recognize by the person presiding, and no person shall speak for longer than the time allotted.

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[2:01] Thanks, Sydney. Our second item on the agenda today is the approval of minutes. We have a couple that we need to get to first the ones from September of this year, and then the ones from the last month to any tab. Members have any edits for either of those awesome great um. Natalie and I made a quick last minute change on one. Now do you want to say anything about that, or do we need to bring? We get it into the record. Um, You can read it into the record, I think. Okay, let me find it a name. She is trying to say something, I think, but she is muted,

[3:00] pushed on mute. I was just wondering. Is this separate from the email that you sent us about. I don't know the mayor that sent us about two hours ago. Yes, um! This is a small edit in that section, and it's a stiff We're not aware of details of one hundred's. Ethics concerns, after returning from leave, had several one on one conversations since, and trying to go forward an ethical, candid manner. Um, no. I had a brief chat to clarify some things that it's not all that. I just read that definitely. What was in the packet. Okay, in addition to the ones that I submitted via email earlier. Uh: So we'll do this one at a time. Um, Can I get a motion to approve the September minutes. If there are no subsequent requests, I move to approve the September of minutes as amended twenty seconds. All those in favor

[4:00] unanimous of five books. And now for the October, I move to approve the October minutes, thanks to you, with a second, all those in favor on this with that. That's thanks. Third agenda. Item is public comment. Any members of the public wishing to speak to the Transportation Advisory Board about a transportation topic. We'll have three minutes to do so. If you're interested in speaking to us tonight, please use the the raise hand feature uh in the the zoom platform, and our our technical host will be able to unmute you for your three minutes of uh public comment. I'll note that tonight we are having a public hearing on the transportation improvement program. So if you're here to speak about that specific item, we'll have a an opportunity for public comments um momentarily on on that

[5:00] so feel free to raise your hands. Now, if you're interested in speaking during public comment, i'm not seeing any hands to me or uh Lynn Siegel: Yeah, Lynn, I've been missing the Excel Energy partnership meeting because of this, and i'd really rather that you have the disclaimer about comments offline. You know have have people somehow set that up. So it's not wasting my time, because I need to be at that meeting, and this meeting at the same time. And i'm just watching the same old stuff. Um, Not only that when you do that at the beginning of the meeting, and then fifteen minutes later, you do public comment. No one's gonna have seen it anyway, so somehow get it online and then have people just say yes or something to it like It's just a waste of time. Um, I wanted to bring up about sombrero um

[6:06] marsh issue today because um! There was a special meeting on this, and this brings to mind the, and I sent you a long letter um yesterday or Sunday. You should have gotten it about how the different ports need to be on track with each other, need to be coordinating a integrated approach to planning which everything is very interrelated, you know. And if you can't figure out how it's interrelated. Then you need to think more because it absolutely is. And, for example, I went to this year Club breakfast. I'm very upset at Sierra Club because they supported See you south. But um I mean expansion um, and you know transportation. It's going to be a nightmare for that. We're just adding a huge population to boulder. That's the biggest thing coming down. Um, i'm just praying that something that some ballot measure can be put on for the open for the disposal of the of the open space for that project. But you should be doing everything you can to stop that from ha being able to happen. It's basically an illegal. The whole thing is

[7:25] completely illegal. Went below. The radar was an agreement just like excel energy. The partnership. It's hor horrific to have to go to that tonight because we work so hard for municipalizing and and getting this thing under boulders control. Um! And there's so many interrelated things. Um, for example, some very much people were complaining about the open space Board hadn't even heard about it. I'd been to planning board meeting September sixth, and I knew all about it, and then they say, well it, someone on the board said, Well, I think that's a transportation issue. So the transportation board should be involved with it sixty-three. It's gonna have a lot more activity on it, and that's

[8:11] impactful to um december or march in the natural habitat for that area. So that's how, for example, how transportation Advisory Board interacts with Usb. T. And Lsbt didn't even know about it. And Planning board had been entertaining it. So these things really need to be integrated. Um! And I guess my time's up by thanks for joining us tonight. Lynn. Good luck with the other meeting. Anyone else. Wishing to speak to a couple of comments. Seeing no other hands raised, i'll close public comment, and we'll move to agenda item, for which will be a public hearing where Tab will be asked to provide a recommendation to Council on the transportation improvement program, now also known as Tip Call number for Projects

[9:04] um staff will be giving us a a presentation, after which members of the Board will have an opportunity to ask clarifying questions will then open it up for a public hearing for any numbers wishing to speak for up up to three minutes, and then Tab will begin our deliberation. So welcome, Valerie Watson for presentation. Thanks. Okay. All right. Let me know if you're not seeing a presentation. It's huh? Alright. Good evening, Members of Tab Valerie Watson. Transportation planning manager with the City of Boulder, joined tonight by Garrett Slayer, Principal transportation projects. Engineer: This evening we'll focus in on our staff recommendations for the Dr. Cog transportation improvement program or tip call number four.

[10:05] But before that we have some updates to share on tip Call number three, and we'll conclude with project updates for call Number four, and seek your recommendation to Council for the staff recommended projects. Now let's turn our attention to tip. Call three, and as a reminder, this is a regional call cycle, where municipalities coordinate together on joint applications for projects of regional benefits. Last Wednesday, after the publishing of our memo for tonight's, item we received word that the Dr. Cog, sub regional forum Technical advisory committee or tech has scored the tip. Call three projects from the boulder region. We have mostly good news and a little bit of bad news. Um! They have tentatively recommended partial funding for the diagonal mobility and safety Improvements Project and full funding for the Colorado seven Br. T, or Bus rapid transit starter service from Boulder to Brighton.

[11:03] Unfortunately, even though it received one of the highest scores, the tech did not recommend any funding for our joint application with Longmont for the local bat lanes and bike and ped safety improvement Projects Staff are following up to understand The rationale for the recommendations made by the Tech and staff are also poised to repackage this application for submittal to future grant opportunities for consideration. Tonight we wish to hear from tab your feedback on the potential to include a repackaged application as part of tip call for considering that one of the previously recommended projects thirtieth, and a Rappaho intersection is being withdrawn, and we'll talk a little bit more on that in a moment. So we're tentatively considering repackaging a portion of this unsuccessful joint application for call for leaving a majority of boulder scope in the application on the call. Three wait list.

[12:01] This would maximize the opportunity to achieve funding, considering the competitiveness of the scope. And as we saw in that relatively high score that this did receive from the tech, we'll summarize this all towards the end of the presentation to assist in your deliberation tonight. Okay, And then the main topic tonight. Tip, call for. So let's take a look at where things stand. Now that we've completed the required community engagement, and have taken a closer look at a couple of the projects as we shared in August and September we have made a lot of progress with refining the design concepts, for two of the staff recommended projects Colorado, seven or Rapaho, and the Thirtieth Street, Multimodal intersection, and the West Colorado Avenue. Multimodal improvements projects per tap feedback, and we'll give updates on the projects in a bit um that are in yellow. Um. First, we'd like to offer an update on the Colorado seven Arapaho Avenue and Thirtieth Street. Multimodal intersection project um that's shown in red here on the screen staff have decided to withdraw this project from consideration as a candidate in this fourth call for projects.

[13:16] Since September staff have worked to address tap feedback, and we engaged consultant assistance, and worked internally to refine the conceptual design of the intersection. We were looking at how to reconfigure vehicular operations and the physical layout of the intersection to respond to your requests regarding safety for people walking and bicycling, and reduce right of way acquisition, and thereby total project cost. We discovered in this process a couple of things, namely, that there are concurrent design efforts along Thirtieth Street in Arapaho corridors that we want to make those efforts better and maximize flexibility, timing, wise of designing and concert with those. Ultimately we want to ensure the operational solutions work for both corridors and the intersection itself

[14:02] also timeline. There are a number of intersection elements that need more in depth study, which doesn't mesh with the timeline. For this call submission. All right. So here's the map of the recommended project shown in solid blue lines for call for all three are on a names or a can corridor, or both, which we believe makes them highly competitive for this call, and also helps us meet our council priority goals for can connectivity. Let's take a quick look at the community engagement that we conducted since the last tab meeting in October. We sent out mailers to folks in the project areas produce project fact sheets and informational videos, and posted all of this on the city's web page. There we offered an online feedback form and virtual appointments for office hours with Staff. We also sent out a city press release and social media.

[15:02] From this engagement we got a range of comments, and some core themes emerged across the projects, respondents expressed the desire for more protection at crossings and intersections, for people walking and bicycling, and the desire to see more separation from vehicles for people bicycling folks also expressed a desire for improved transit facilities. A few comments mentioned support for these projects with the caveat that there be attention paid to ensuring adequate traffic flow overall broad support for the project concepts. Also we asked respondents to indicate how they typically travel, mainly to get a sense for the spread of responses, and we saw participations from um all modes of travel. Next, let's look at the staff recommended projects a little closer, and some updates since we last looked in detail with you in September, as a quick refresher, the projects recommended by Staff for this fourth tip call for projects, complete key connections along the can especially thirtieth Colorado and Folsom,

[16:04] when you consider our tip efforts across calls two, three, and four, we're making a concerted effort to secure a funding future for good portions of the can. And when you look at where projects have been recently implemented, or are in final design shown on the map here in salmon, green and light boo. Even more of the network is being addressed with our current call for pursuits. All right, Let's look at Colorado for this call cycle. We're looking at the west side of this corridor with both the West Colorado project from Fols into the region shown in solid blue here, as well as the pre design application for fulsome shown in dashboard. Since we last presented on this project, Staff have refined the concept design to reconfigure roadway layout and lane, striping, incorporating previous tab feedback. This has reduced the needed right of way acquisition, and thereby the total project costs. So we're down from five million. Now at three point six million.

[17:05] We also received feedback from the Dr. Cog sub regional Forum Technical Advisory Committee. At their meeting last week various cities were allowed to present on one abstract each, and staff put this abstract forward for feedback. The tech gave favorable comments on the project in general. They also raised that a financial partnership with Cu. Boulder would increase the competitiveness of this application even more additionally. Tak commented that the physical proximity to fulsome field which draws visitors from far and wide, makes us a project that has a unique opportunity to showcase a multimodal street staff are encouraged to make note of both of these points in our eventual application narrative, and I just want to pause here. We realize that members of Tab may not have seen the notification of this tax session by Boulder County. These meetings are usually held on the second Monday of the months. Um, but this one was rescheduled um to last Thursday. Just want to make notice that

[18:07] all right. And here's a rendering of what that project is now looking like. The large image is looking east along Colorado at Folsom and Franklin Field. The smaller field is on the bottom left corner of the image. Then the detail of the transit super stop is looking west between region and Folsom. Lastly, there's a small street corner detail image um that shows the northwest corner of fulsome um. It shows the new curb alignment and design elements. There. I'll just pause if anyone wants to take a look here, all right. So moving on for the Thirtieth Street corridor, the second of focus, it's Colorado to baseline, and as a refresher we're currently constructing improvements along thirtieth from Arapah to Colorado, and we were funded for Thirtieth from Arapaho all the way up to the diagonal and call to,

[19:04] and as a reminder, this project will construct, raise protected bicycle lanes, and improve sidewalks, and we are at a total project cost of seven point, three million for this application for Folsom Street. We're looking at the can identified segment between Pine to Colorado, meeting up with the existing protected bicycle lane and crossing improvements north of the segment between Pine and Belmont, we're excited about how this application for Folsom will allow us to secure a process for this can priority corridor and free up those local dollars for more immediate needs on baseline and iris. And we're looking at a one point. Five million dollar project cost for this pre design effort. Right now, let's talk about next steps tonight. We request your recommendation to Council, then on December First we'll visit council for public hearing, and their official endorsement. And then we'll assemble the applications by the january, two thousand and twenty-three deadline

[20:04] all right so here's the recommended motion language for tap consideration. A motion to recommend that city council approved the proposed submittal by staff, Although not discussed in the memo. We mentioned earlier the disappointing news that our joint application with Longmont for the diagonal, and call three looks to be not recommended for funding. So, after discussion with Tab tonight, staff would like the flexibility to repackage and submit that application as well. Along with the three staff recommended projects on the screen. Here we recognize that Tab Hasn't had a lot of time to consider this, but we wanted to make sure to raise it tonight, so it can be considered as part of our Council recommendation. At this time Staff are considering focusing in on one intersection from that unfunded joint. Longmont older call three Project Canyon and Twenty Eighth Street, and submitting an application for transit, signal priority, or tsp at this location,

[21:03] and that would be in the ballpark of around eight hundred thousand. The remainder of the call three scope for the boulder portion. Um of that application would remain on the call. Three wait list. That's our proposed strategy. At the moment Longlot may do something similar with their components of the application, they may repackage a portion or all of their um their bit for the application and call for again with the scoring so high in tax recommendations for call three, We're looking to be nimble. Given this late breaking information and maximize our chances as a city for funding the scope across both calls. With that we appreciate all of Tabs feedback to date on all things, Tip, and we're now available for questions. Thanks, Valerie. Tila. Thank you, Valerie. Um very polished and concise. Thank you. Um, maybe a little bit too polished because i'm not understanding what was approved, and what wasn't approved. If we can go back to the call. Number three projects Um, the caller of nineteen diagonal mobility and safety improvements got funded, or probably will get funded.

[22:18] Um, but the local bat lanes wouldn't. And you in your description earlier, said the batlines, I think, included that maybe the bike way. That's kind of what i'm wondering what are the mobility and safety improvements for? Maybe we're just talking about different sections of one. It can you tell me what got turned down. So I have a better understanding of what you're repackaging. Okay, Um, let me just uh come back to the zoom screen here one second. Um. So what I have on the screen here are the These are the tentative recommendations of the Dr. Cog Technical Advisory Committee, the Tech Um. They make their tent of recommendations, and then the Doctor Co. Board approves those later down the road. Um, so um typically that these recommendations usually stand. And so that's why we're, you know, working from here. Um, as if these would be um approved by the Dr. Clock board.

[23:14] Um, so the uh mobility and safety improvements um for for Colorado, one nineteen for the diagonal was was a Boulder County Submission Um, and that did receive partial funding. Um. It involves the the elements that you're discussing um the that lanes um business access transit um lanes also had some pedestrian and bike improvements woven in to that application. Um is along with the bat lanes um, which is more of a transit, but focused efficiency um component of that application. That was the one that was not recommended for any funding despite its high score. Um! And then third on the screen. Here is the um Colorado, seven Arapaho Br. T. Starter service that was fully funded um in in terms of the tax recommendations. Does that help clarify your question? Uh no, um, I mean i'm perfectly clear on what was probably funded, and probably not. I'm just not sure what the difference between Number One and number two here is, and particularly like what the bike way

[24:21] was lumped into or not. Oh, thank you for clarifying Garrett. May I invite you to speak to these um these two applications, sure. So as Valerie and for the record, Garrett's later principal transportation projects. Engineer uh. As Valerie noted, the Boulder County led application is focused on the trunk line enhancements to Colorado, one hundred and nineteen, It Uh It's a multi million dollar effort that's being slowly sort of piece together over a period of many years. This application, specifically, was for enhancements uh from Nyawat road to Airport Road, and so that is the segment that the Boulder County portion is focused on the city of Boulder City long. Not application was focused on providing better bikeway connections from the proposed Um Co. One nineteen bike way to make better connections into and around the uh, the the city edges.

[25:20] Um a and the um just a a little bit of a parallel. Um. We know that when the thirty-six bike way was uh implemented that one of the the primary complaints we heard from the community was, uh, we got to the edge of the town, and then it just sort of gave up. And so, with the one hundred and nineteen efforts we are making a concerted effort to truly try to integrate uh a connected system from the city to the trunk improvements, and that's what a part of this The uh, The components of the bike way of the city of Longmont City Boulder Project comprised. The other was the Tsp and Bat Lane enhancements primarily along the segment of the diagonal um between twenty eight and foothills, as well as transit signal priority components at that intersection with twenty-eight at the foothills as well as it Canyon Boulevard

[26:11] Okay. So then, to summarize what we're. Um what you're asking us about now in terms of the potential repackaging would be that latter part that you're talking about the this transit signal priority uh, but only at one intersection as opposed to that segment correct. And, Valerie, I don't want to take any of your presentation away. I i'm happy to speak to the reasoning behind that. Um, if you're okay. With that. Okay, So the the thinking on that Tila is that the intersection with canyon and twenty-eight is geographically discreet from the rest of the segment improvements and enhancements from iris to foothills. And um as well. We've got the Twenty Eighth Street Outlines project that is hopefully going to be advertised for construction here in the next two or three weeks, and so the timing of these transit signal priority enhancements at Canyon

[27:04] would come uh nicely on the heels of the construction completion of Twenty Eighth Street, so that we wouldn't have that sort of missing node in the and the corridor enhancements, and also um. The scope of the project is sort of small, and uh a lot of times. When you go through these tips uh scoring applications, you wind up with like an extra half a million dollars for people are going well. Okay, what are we going to do with that? And it seems like It's It's sort of uh uh, an an an avantageous way to try to uh to get a foothold in the funding opportunity for a call for, because it's a it's likely to be a small request for in in and making this enhancements just to the intersection at Canyon and twenty-eight Okay, Thank you. That helps a lot, and and sorry to interrupt um. I was just wondering. I I think, Garrett and Valerie you also shared with me that um at the wasn't, at the I don't know if it was at the separational Forum. But Um Boulder County Staff thought that it would score very highly. Um in call for, too, Is that right?

[28:14] And and I should clarify uh Natalie that that was feedback that was provided, not at the tech meeting, but uh, from Boulder County Staff. Uh, after we got the disappointing those about the the the non-punding recommendation. Can you say a little bit more about what transit is being prioritized at that location, and try to quantify the the benefits of what this would get us at the intersection with Canyon. Yes, yes, so specifically. What we are looking to implement would be for the left turning buses. They would be in in that outside uh Gp Lane, on Canyon, but then the buses would be able to skip the queue and go to the front of the line and be given a specific bus left turn only phase um, and then and then it would have a receiving lane on northbound twenty-eight for the bus lanes as well,

[29:15] so that that's the primary enhancements it's it's signal as well as minor um curb and gutter, and and and street geometry revisions to accommodate the the Turn Lane. Thanks, Gary. I was just also wondering if maybe Danny or Jean could speak to um. You know the transit service. That would that is, either there today or that would benefit from this in the future. Sure, this is Jean Um, Jean Samson, City of older transportation staff, so I think, as as tub is aware. Um, this is part of the larger one, nineteen uh mobility and safety and bus rapid transit project. So we're looking at um high frequency transit between um downtown boulder and downtown Longmont and Rtd. Is planning to begin to um booster what they call the bolt service

[30:08] today between Boulder and Longmont in um preparation for full brt service, and so, like some of the elements you were looking at, and you see that slide in front of you. The first project, Mobility and Safety Improvement Project that's actually helping to fund Brt platforms and expanded Parking rides um along the trunk line as well as pieces of um, the commuter bike way. So this is really um a key pinch point on that transit on that expedited transit service that we're hoping to um sort of unstick, if you will, within the city to expedite um brt transit service time so that it's competitive with the automobile. Thanks. Any other questions from Tab Alex, I have something.

[31:01] Um, okay, Thank you, Valerie and Team This is. This is pretty succinct and a nice presentation. Um! So I see the the The requested action to us is to to ideally recommend going forward as proposed here. Um! I would expect uh Council to be interested in, uh the racial equity um, or orientation of this, and i'd be curious to hear you talk about if the whether or not the way forward. Has um gone through the racial equity process instrument. Um, and also just for background. And this might be it beneficial to others, too. But I certainly like to know um. To what extent does the um is our competitiveness, or or does the do the applications themselves request information about equity or racial equity. Um, i'm just sort of curious about how our efforts on that might align with with what um might make us more competitive, and if that's a a place. Um,

[32:04] I don't know where there's where there's a kind of a connectivity. So those are. Those are two questions. Sorry that was a long way that I can repeat it. Um, i'm happy to speak to the The application itself does ask questions about the populations that will be served by the projects, And so we're able to provide data. Um, you know a range of data points that talk about the different um, You know, folks that would be served um whether it's um economic um data or otherwise. So that's something we do bolster um our applications with um in terms of the just the overall process. Um, you know i'll just right. Um good. Call back to some of our previous presentations on on this um where you know, we are essentially starting with a project list that came out of our transportation master Plan, And so that would be the planning process that identified Um. The potential projects that we then called down to a list of candidates that we then reviewed with you over the last several months.

[33:10] Uh, yeah, and i'll just add, I mean, I think We've thought about equity as part of the criteria right as well, and I can't, you know, remember every little detail about that. But um, you know, I think that's part of it, and as we go forward into the future, I think we'll get even better and more robust kind of equity evaluations as part of the projects that we bring forward for Tip Um, because we'll continue to apply the racial equity instrument as part of the T, and prioritizing projects, and so into the future We'll just, I think that process. It will be more embedded into the work that we do to get to this point. But certainly, you know there was um thinking around equity for this call for list of projects. Thank you.

[34:02] Just have have any more clarifying questions before we open up the public hearing, not seeing any. If you'd like to address Tab about this matter, we'll have a public hearing where any members of the public are able to speak for up to three minutes. Please use the raised hand function within Zoom. If you're interested in speaking, Stephen Hagel. Welcome. Okay, I think i'm working um. So I have a question just on the Thirtieth Street. Just sort of going back to the original plans are where we were keeping four lanes of traffic and expanding the right of way. It seems like that was right after Coastal Street, right sizing,

[35:01] and the main goal, you know, as expressed by the city was to maintain traffic speeds the vehicle speeds. Is there any? So this looks like the plan of thirtieth is going ahead with that. Is there any flight. Um Consideration of going down to a three lane um configuration for that for actually decreasing traffic, and the probably less pollution break entire dust for the residents on thirtieth, and not increasing the right of ways which would decrease the cause of that Ajax. Probably quite a bit. Um. So that's my question. Is Are we just going with the plan that was made up a few years ago with changes of priority? Does someone from Staff want to answer that?

[36:06] I'm not happy to take it. I was waiting to see if anyone else wanted to. Um, Yeah, we would certainly thanks for the question, Stephen and um. It's definitely something that we've thought about. Um We it would be, you know, a consideration as part of the design process. Assuming we get the funding um, then it would be part of that process, thanks to alien for the question, Steven, Any other members of the public, hoping to speak, see Kurt Nord back. Welcome, Kurt, Hi, Kurt, or back. Uh. This is a total detail, level comment, and probably inappropriate. But this is my opportunity, so i'll make it for the design of the Colorado uh changes that was presented at Fulsome the at the intersection of Folsom in Colorado

[37:04] for southbound traffic on fulls of at Colorado Currently, there is uh no right turn on red uh marking, which hopefully would continue. And so there's a right turn lane, and there's a left turn line, but neither one can move when the there's red. And so you really don't need both lines you. It could be a combined left turn right, turn link um, which they would allow for a narrower crossing of fulsome. So I just want to suggest that that would be a possibility for the design place. Thanks great. I think that's something I've brought up briefly with the staff. Anyone else wishing to speak,

[38:01] seeing that we'll go ahead and and open up for a tab deliberation, I think, to add on to Kurt's point. We're also inviting people to turn into a bus only lane which I think will sort of make it less of a of a respected treatment if we for inviting that kind of behavior. So yeah, think of three to two. Conversion from uh the block approaching Folsom wood would make it make it safer and and sort it out. Um, so we're not setting people up to be in the wrong spot. So I came in tonight, ready to support three of these uh little throw off by the the fourth one. Um, How are you all feeling? Yeah. Um, thanks. Yeah, I know. I likewise I um, you know I'm happy about the trajectory of the evolution of selection, these projects and um, I I guess. Uh yeah. So i'm. I'm supported. So

[39:07] what stuff is proposed? I guess I'm a little unclear uh the the way that the the proposed language for for the motion is set up, as we will just support the staff recommendations. So it's still kind of leading up to staff, whether they want to pursue that hybrid repackage or not. Um, which i'm okay with. I also think we'd be a little. I feel a little on firm our ground, saying, we support the three uh that we're in the memo, and this make no recommendation. Um from tab on on this new one, because we don't really know I don't quite understand what's what's gotten left out, and what's um included in the I don't think we have a cost Estimate on it, do we? But there's some information that we have on the other projects that we don't really have for that one. So um definitely not going to dissuade staff. I'm actually quite impressed with the nimbleness. You know that that this has shown um that you you did come up with some idea for for what to do after um

[40:03] um we got turned down on on call three um, So I don't, wanna you know. Tell you that was that was wrong. I just don't think I have enough information to give up a recommendation for or against it. But I'm certainly happy to recommend the three that you were already prepared to do this evening. Thanks. Yeah. I think the cost of that was something like eight hundred thousand, which I this a bit of money for a single transit intersection. I think it mostly benefit the the long month bounds traffic. Um, whereas the that correctly, if i'm wrong with the the inbound to boulder traffic is just making a a right turn where it will lead this transit signal and and receiving light. So just one intersection, one way for eight hundred thousand, feels a little steep for me. So i'm a little reluctant on that. I mean. It is a pretty novel treatment, for the bus only left turn line. I appreciate it with that as well. I I Haven't experienced that. I know that I've seen pictures of it. Um, but I don't know if we've adopted it anywhere in Boulder or in Colorado. Really. So um,

[41:14] you know the if that's the costume I didn't. I missed that number. Sorry, but it's not shocking to me. But again I just don't feel firm in my details to be able to recommend it. Yeah, my biggest concern is probably like we've seen in the past is we? We can't control how things are scored, or we can only control what we submit projects on, and i'd hate to miss out on on fulsome, because at the last minute we threw out this idea and it Our regional partners like this regional transit project more than a a slightly more um local street where we've put our efforts to so far pretty. I was just gonna add, if that um before the Council meeting, if there was any chance that we could get more information like more specifics on this fourth one.

[42:03] Um, so we could. We'll just make a more educated choice. The trouble with that is that to make a recommendation as tab, we need to have had the public hearing what we did tonight, and so, you know, we could maybe quickly on our third me Monday, or whatever. But um. We kind of got all the the pieces in place to make a recommendation one or the other tonight, so we should make a recommendation one way or the other. Um. Now I agree, and I think if if we were to see any information in the um, the Council packet, we'd be welcome to reach out to council and our individual capacity. If if we have a stronger understanding of of things, can I just offer maybe a summary? It sounds like um I maybe not everybody. We haven't done a a full straw, but it sounds like they're People seem to be happy with with the first three, and the fourth one is excitingly novel and great. That staff got this together. But we just, you know I haven't had a chance to yeah to thoroughly analyze it so like you said before she left. That's not a that's not an affirmative or a or a

[43:14] negative statement. Um. And then, yeah, it goes to staff to go from there just as a message for council. Natalie. What's your preference? My preference? Um! So I I mean I can understand all sides of it. I guess I think I agree. I think this would be an exciting project and um, and from a cost standpoint I actually think it's probably pretty good roi as far as um what you're putting into it, and then the eventual benefit. Um, But I can certainly, you know I can understand also the uh adding this into the list, and then it it

[44:03] just ends up competing right? Because you're You're throwing in four projects. I mean, they're all competing with each other. So. Um yeah, I I lean towards putting it in. I think it's um. I think it's worth putting in there A. And I procedurally I was what I was thinking and was going to add, is that we can um submit all four, for you know Staff's recommendation to council with the caveat that tab um. Their recommendations was for the three projects Um, and we can provide. In fact, I think Valerie was going to mention to that um. We'd love it to have um. Actually sorry. That was not that. It was on me to mention that we certainly would love um

[45:00] you to provide, you know, input to council. Either you can come to that that meeting or um, or we can summarize your feedback in a slide. Um, But either way we'll get that kind of message across to them on. Okay. So I guess what I'm What i'm trying to get at is uh does it? Does it matter a whole lot to staff whether Tab says yes on the three and no no comment on the fourth? Or would it really benefit you if we actually just said, Whatever Staff wants to do, if it's three, it's three. If it's for not really even knowing if you've decided fully to put it in. Yeah, I think there's a benefit of having um. What's the proposals have been submitted? Is there any wiggle room of saying like we we would rather have full product X over Project Y, or we kind of just beholden to. However, our regional peers score them.

[46:04] I like Garrett, take that one, so each of the projects will be scored, and then um the the the the region, the sub region, I should say isn't necessarily bound to the scoring, as we saw with call three Um! So there are. Uh, we'll be uh opportunity for us to uh insert our own preference if we will find ourselves in a place where um, perhaps canyon and twenty-eight is funded, and fulsome is scores well, but uh there, there's not enough funding to go around. We could say we'd rather fun folsom and then we we'd have that ability to maneuver. Okay, I think i'd i'd feel a little more comfortable recommending the twenty-eight and canyon on the condition that it's the fourth priority out of the four. I don't see any downside to

[47:01] doing that other than being out the the twenty percent local match which we might be hard to spend that more that more effectively without the a grant. I think I saw Valerie nodding at that suggestion, but i'm not confident. I think What we just heard is that is a possibility to do is I can get some confirmation of that. I think it's like it. I think that allows us the flexibility to, you know. Work up to the Council date um to be able to, you know. Provide that information at council. Um! And as Natalie mentioned it. It. It just gives us a lot of flexibility. We need um, and so I think it any recommendation from Tab that includes this um in some fashion would be helpful. Okay,

[48:04] Alright, trying to craft a motion here. Does everyone have any thoughts like type? Um supported the proposed submittal to the under regional council of Government. So it's just supporting what Staff wants to do. I think we call out specific projects and extends um, not just a blank check sort of approach. May I raise a point of order for that? Um! This is the same language that was used in the um recommendation for call cycle two if that helps just to provide any clarity for tab deliberation. Okay,

[49:11] any other comments, or can we start working on a on a motion? Well, i'm perfectly comfortable with the proposed suggested motion language in the memo, so i'm giving Alex a chance to doll it up or change it. Specify it more, but i'll just. I'll just run mostly with it and mention canon as well. So mo i'll move to recommend to City Council to approve the following core material network projects to the Denver Regional Council of Government, and for the two thousand and twenty-four, two thousand and twenty-seven transportation improvements, programs of regional project selection process. West Colorado Avenue. Multimodal improvements from region Drive to Folsom Street. Various street multimodal improvements from Baseline Road to Colorado have

[50:02] fulsome street multimedal improvements predesign from Pine Street to Colorado as and twenty Eighth and canyon transit signal priority intersection Improvements. No. I wasn't done uh with the preference that's Colorado thirtieth and fulsome projects take priority over the twenty-eight and canyon projects. I Second, the motion again. Thanks, Tila. Do we have any debate or discussion on the motion? Well, it Ha, Natalie, how does that? How do you feel about that? Well, I guess i'm just mostly. I was just

[51:04] reflecting on like with Staff Garrett, Valerie. You know the folks that are attending the sub regional meetings. Does that feel like we can work with within those constraints? I guess in that Forum? I I I think so. Um, there are any number of ways that this could play out um, and so and it's There's a decent chance that this canyon a Twenty eighth project because of its uh location on critical regional corridors, could come out to be the highest scoring project, and I can appreciate the concern that Tab would have about what that might mean for these other critically important projects on the can network. Um! It could play out that that would be the only projects that could get funded um out of uh, because uh, there are several projects that Boulder County has put forward via the tip abstracts. They may not submit, all of them, but a number of their projects uh look like they could score very, very well if they decide to submit. Um, so we could find ourselves in a place where um, we might only get one project uh out of all of these. And um, so it's I I I think um.

[52:22] We know and understand what your priorities are, what it what I I think, would work to try to bring that to fruition through um the maximum of of the the working on the sub regional um tech um, and so I I guess. Um! It's. I I wish I had the crystal ball to know exactly how it would play out on the scoring, so I could give you a more definitive response here. Yeah, I would say, I think you know tab just needs to be comfortable with like at at a certain point, like we understand the priorities, and we're going to go and represent that. And and then it's going like the the cards are going to fall where they may right. And so, just making sure that you all are

[53:05] comfortable with that I uh really appreciate Staff's deference to Tab and your uh collegiality with us, and the respect that you've shown us at our opinions. Um, And I would just remind tab members. We are a mere advisory board, right? So we're giving, You know, the clearest advice we can to counsel, but that's all it is it doesn't bite to anybody or anything. And so thank you, Staff, for like really bending over backwards to accommodate our wishes, and and you know, take them seriously. But my! I think it would be a little more just. I I don't know I don't. I don't feel so worried about, for the number four is is something that I need to analyze. I I do sort of think big picture, is it? It's a request for, you know, endorsement of the general management of the thing. And um! So I i'm happy to go if if Tab feels like the the more specific

[54:03] um motion language. If you feel more comfortable, i'm happy to go with that. But i'm also. I'm fine with the language that step provided Originally I i'm kind of I agree with Ryan. I think um either. But i'm comfortable with what the staff provided as well. But yeah, and I think Alex has expressed he's not quite comfortable with it, and he is comfortable with this, and i'm comfortable with both of them. And so for the sake of unanimity. Not that it's, you know an end in itself, but it might be a nice way to just package it up um neatly and get staff. I think the support that we are trying to show them that. I'm. I'm just worried about what happened in two thousand and nineteen, where there was a lot of local enthusiasm for Thirtieth Street. There was more regional support for the table by over pass, and we we didn't get our our first choice, and then we had the I mean. We left out and eventually got it. But um! I wouldn't want to set ourselves up in that position again. And so I think,

[55:05] as people who are here to advise council on policy, I I would think that there's a lot more opportunity, especially with this council, to do something that's been really challenging and boulder, which is, which is work on on fulsome, and it'd be a missed opportunity if if we were to do do something that we know. Our Our regional supporters are in the State are eventually gonna sign on to. So I prefer to keep the um. But motion languages. Okay, I I I will also point out like there's nothing in the the current motion that would prevent Staff from deciding. Yeah, never mind, we don't want that, for you know, deciding it's it that the risk of cannibalizing other

[56:00] options is too bad, but i'm sure we are not the only municipality that's uh doing a Hail Mary in this last round um, and trying to scrape up as many dollars as they can with the variety of different projects. So I think the current motion will give Staff the flexibility to do what they think is best. Um! And you know, recognize that we're not in control of no one on this calls in control of how, how it plays out. So. Does that mean we're ready to vote on this motion? It's tough. Alex. I swayed by your i'm swayed by your your your policy and strategy, thinking but I I I think I have a slightly stronger in impulse to just sort of give gifts uh staff are um my, you know, just sort of endorsement that they'll do their best on this with

[57:00] with with the understanding that, as you said a couple of times, you know ultimately, we're just advising a staff doesn't need to. And then they're They're hearing our our thoughts. Um! That they can operate with their own agency. I I didn't answer the question. It was ready to vote. So I bet I'm: Yeah, I'm happy if it's time to vote. Are there any competing motions before we vote? No no one's a post. No one's a moved with the original language. Um, i'm willing to see how this book comes out before I do. That. Was it worth doing? A frigate. Magnificent procedure it is worth getting understanding of people prefer. Which which which is the two of people prefer using. That sort of the question is, Mhm. I mean having heard Alex, I would hate the city to miss out on something that we want to prioritize,

[58:00] because it's like a fourth project is in there, that's kind of a I don't have a really strong feeling either way. I'm kind of happy with both. Um, i'm fine with the the modification of the prioritization to represent that aspect of this discussion. Um, But yeah, I don't. I don't I don't feel strongly, really, either way. I also don't feel strongly. So if I get this, I feel strongly. I'm not strong. So I get. Yeah, Alex, You seem to feel pretty opinion. So I actually you're You're kind of swing me there. So i'm i'm happy to go with the unless steel you want to anything i'm i'm happy to. I guess I sort of lean towards Alex. Your thought then, ultimately, since we're in, grow kinda we should watch you a little bit on this. I I think i'll give weight to the things that have been most vetted by tab, most funded by staff, and the public said opportunity to to weigh in on. And then, if we're so fortunate to get the fourth with

[59:08] money. That's this left over. We can see what happens. There's nothing else. All those in favor of the motion With five votes and Meredith, I can email you the motion language, do we? Second, it? Would you do that properly twenty minutes ago? Okay, I know. So excruciating. I feel like. I mean that I appreciate it on that one. Um, yeah, that Thank you, Valerie and Staff. I i'm glad we At one point we're going to do this back in May. Um. So many of these projects three out of the four that we just voted on weren't, even on the menu back. Then we've shaved millions of dollars off of other ones improve safety. Even even the projects that we're not going to go after now, like the Twenty Eighth Street multi east path. We we change the alignment there, shave some cost off, and um, I think we'll be better situated to

[60:07] to look at uh thirtieth and and Arapaho when when that design uh progresses in that in the coming years. So but thank you for being such a collaborator with Tab on that. And Alex. I just like to add, I mean, and I know you guys are probably aware of this, Grant. But um! The applications just came out for a um National Safety Council grant that might be able to aid It's not eight hundred, but it's two hundred, so it could help. Anyway, I I put in the link on the chat. So you guys want to check it out if you're not aware of it, which i'm sure you are. But just that I chocolate in there. Thanks, Jenny. Whatever we can get. Alright, So with that we'll move on to agenda. Item five, which is a staff briefing and tab feedback on the shared micro mobility program. And I see David comes here for that update.

[61:02] I'll get things rolling here. Let's See here. Okay, I assume everyone can see my presentation screen. Yes, great, excellent. Good evening, Tab. I'm. Dk: Senior Transportation Planner, and it's great to be back with you all this evening. We have a lot of information to share with you this evening regarding the key findings from the shared East. Good evaluation report, as well as some preliminary next steps to formalize the program in two thousand and twenty-three. We look forward to addressing any questions following the presentation before we jump into the details of the Scooter evaluation report. It's important to revisit the overall goal of the share Micro mobility program, which consists of both E Bikes and East goods. Our goal is to provide safe, equitable, and sustainable forms of transportation that improve quality life, provide connections to transit and key destinations, and replace motor vehicle trips to reduce greenhouse gas emissions

[62:15] before we initiated the shared E. Scooter pilot program Staff identified several criteria by which we would measure the efficacy of the program. All these criteria were evaluated there in the pilot program, but with the special emphasis on safety and sustainability as these criteria were still were, and still are, of very high importance. And here's where we are in terms of the overall shared East. Good re evaluation process in two thousand and twenty city council directed Staff to include E. Scooters in the shared micro mobility program, but in a limited service area east of Twenty Eighth Street, with the intention to test E. Scooters and to to determine if they are, in fact, a good fit for boulder. Since then we've selected a vendor lyme through a request for proposal process, and on August seventeenth two thousand and twenty-one. We launched the pilot program.

[63:08] Staff has collected data and community input over a one-year time period and we've been sharing the key findings with several community stakeholders over the past month and a half following, Tab and city council will begin to finalize, proposed next steps for the program, and begin to incorporate any changes in early two thousand and twenty-three. Okay, let's turn our attention now to the key findings from the shared E Scooter evaluation report. Since the start of the program. Staff has been observing the operational aspects, and it has been a mix of both good and bad results. On one hand, the sharedy scooters have proved to be a new convenient form of transportation for people to get to work school and to shop and run errands; and, on the other hand, these studios have had a negative impact on people also using sidewalks and multi-use paths, and particularly those people with disabilities.

[64:07] The next two slides will further explore what we've been hearing. Who's using e scooters today and some general utilization statistics. This past September the city of Boulder administered a questionnaire and over one thousand people responded. We summed up the major themes. We've heard from the questionnaire a Lyme customer questionnaire, numerous inquiry about the reports as well as direct feedback to staff. In addition to the issue of impeding sidewalks and multi-use paths, people have also with the ski scooters, abandoning creeks and ditches, and observed unsafe running behaviors, and have expressed concerns that unorganized parking of these scooters have added clutter to any neighborhoods. But there's also an appreciation for sharedy scooters as they provide a new alternative to driving, and they are considered a more convenient mode of transportation which are also fun to write

[65:09] today. Lyme has forty thousand unique customers in the boulder market alone. Their customers are, on the average age of thirty, one years old, and most of them live in households, earning less than the medium median income level. This could be attributed to a high number of college age students using the program. There also seems to be an equal split of people enjoying the recreational value of these scooters and those people using E. Scooters for utilitarian purposes. Okay, Now let's look at some of the general stats at the start of the program two hundred E scooters were deployed, and through a demand-based cap formula lyme now has three hundred e scooters operating in these boulder. A demand-based cap helps to regulate the overall number of E scooters in a market ensuring there is sufficient supply for people wishing to use an East good for their journey

[66:02] Over the course of the pilot program. One hundred and fifteen thousand trips have been generated, equating to over one hundred and seventeen thousand miles traveled the and, as you can see East good, your trips are generally short. About one mile. We estimate that twenty five percent of these scooter chips displaced motor vehicle trips. This estimation is based on a statistically valid survey administered by lyme in two thousand and nineteen. The resulting greenhouse gas savings is approximately twenty-six thousand pounds, which is equivalent to about one hundred, both sorry, one thousand three hundred gallons of gasoline, consumed as for safety through the review of Ceo boulder and city of boulder police records. Our data shows that there were four crashes involving moderate to severe injuries. All four cases. The injured person was transported to the hospital via ambulance, and because the safety criteria is such an important criteria of the pilot program, Let's take a deeper dive

[67:03] based on Nash early national sharedy, scooter crash data. We saw less than what we thought we would see. We think this is due to several contributing factors, one being the durability of the E. Scooters have greatly improved. Two thousand and eighteen more people have become familiar with these scooters based on experiences elsewhere. Mit. Ctl and the city of boulder has a robust and maintained network of walk and bike infrastructure, and most drivers do have a greater awareness of vulnerable road users due to boulder's already high number of people walking, biking, and now scooting one hundred and fifty that said operational challenges still remain for people walking and for people with disabilities, using sidewalks and multi-use paths. And although no and although no crashes have been recorded, people riding shady scooters and pedestrians during the pilot program there's still a perceived risk which could lead to people choosing not to use these facilities due to fear of getting hurt.

[68:07] Now let's take a closer dive at the mode. Shift. It's clear from the responses in the questionnaire that shared these scooters. Maybe the may be displacing motor vehicle trips. In fact, nearly half of all these your ships appear to have done so, However, active transportation trips are also impacted. Nearly thirty percent of respondents said that they would have walked if an E. Scooter was not available. It's evident that you scooters provide a faster means to get to a destination over walking, and there is certainly the convenience factor. We also ask people where they normally write a new scooter. Bike lanes and multi-use paths are very popular and Some people indicated sidewalks. Stuff will need to know why people are riding east cutters and sidewalks, and it's it is illegal, that is, unless there is no adjacent bike facility in the street, then they may do so. So here are the top three reasons: generally: people feel unsafe because of vehicular traffic speeds and volume. There's the convenience of being able to travel by directional one side of the street to access destinations from their origination,

[69:15] and sometimes they don't have a bike facility industry that they can use. Okay, Now let's shift our attention to overall utilization. We also examine utilization and other identified zones in the city, such as boulder's, racial equity, zones, employment centers, see You boulders, campuses being East campus, and Williams village and gun barrel. But for the sake of time I will not be covering those areas in tonight's presentation. However, if any questions do arise uh regarding those areas. Um. After the presentation we are prepared to speak to those.

[70:00] This heat map represents all routes traveled within the East Boulder service area, and, as you can see, East Gears have penetrated all parts of these boulder and they've been ridden on nearly every street and multi-use path. The dark purple corridor running north-south is Thirtieth Street and here's a look! At Chip starts the dark purple polygons indicate high activity, levels and as you can see all focused areas are in these zones. I showed you a trip ends map. It would look very similar to this map in that most trips are under one mile. Twenty-nine Street. Mall is a major destination, and in indicating sh these sketers may and do some economic activity connecting people to goods and services. There's also a high number of trips being taken between Cu Boulder campuses to the Twenty Eighth Street, East Boulder Boundary to reach the main campus. The

[71:04] Okay. This is the final section of tonight's presentation. The key findings from the evaluation report and community input. To date has informed a preliminary set of proposed next steps to guide the transition from the pilot phase to a formal program. Let's begin. Here are the initial program areas, we think, comprise the foundation of our next phase of the sharedy scooter program. We are exploring serious area expansion, mandatory, designated parking zones, improve safety efforts, transportation, demand management tactics to increase ridership, specific policy and accessibility elements to optimize the program for a disadvantage community, and finally ways in which we can use the collected fees to to support the program moving forward and expanding the program. City-wide is a proposed next step, but to do so in a manner that exercises by strategic and coordinated approach with stakeholders in boulder, sensitive areas, such as Pearl Street, Mall, and University Hill. One

[72:10] staff will also continue coordinating with Cu Bowler as they deem the appropriate steps necessary to continue expansion on Cu's main campus mit ctl, and these identified dismount. Zones for downtown and University Hill were recently adopted by city council during update to the boulder revised code in two thousand and nineteen. These areas may provide an inertia roadmap to creating the restricted writing zones one hundred and fifty, and to address many of the concerns associated with improperly parked E. Scooters and sensitive zones, like Pearl Street, Mall, and University Hill staff, is proposing the designation of mandatory designated parking zones, consisting of both on and off street, signed and marked facilities.

[73:01] Coordination with stakeholders on these locations will be imperative to the success of this strategy. This next slide provides an example of what these designated parking areas look like. The one on the left is at Cu. Boulder, and the one on the right is in the city of right away, where it's being experienced. But experimenting with on street climb grows. Okay. Safety is paramount, and we believe these next steps will continue to improve safety and existing operational challenges. I'd like to highlight just a few one being to eliminate those impacts to people with disabilities on sidewalks and multi-use paths. We'd like to create a culture of safety and courtesy on our multi-use path system through signing, marking, and safety education efforts, and we need to wrap up the safety, education messaging through special events and social media campaigns

[74:07] from a Tdm. Perspective. There's great potential to integrate memberships for people living and working within the three of the city's general improvement districts, as well as student membership programs with Cu. Boulder and Neroba in terms of policy and accessibility. There's more work in coordination to be done to optimize the program for people living in traditionally under served neighborhoods such as San Lazaro Sun. Well, the Central and Orchard Park, through continued coordination with the city's, connectors and residents program, we aim to remove barriers to access lives, affordability program and increase overall utilization, stemming from all racial equity zones in boulder. And then the city has been collecting license and per ride fees, and to date has a mask over twenty thousand dollars from from shared E. Scooter. Operations combined with revenue from B. Cycle's, license, and per trip fees. The city will determine appropriate expenditures to support two hundred and fifty,

[75:16] and advance the overall shared micro mobility program in two thousand and twenty-three. Okay, and to conclude by presentation. Let's circle back to where we are in the overall process. We are currently in the phase of taking input from boards, commissions, and council on proposed next steps, which will then consolidate and finalize, and put into action in the first quarter of two thousand and twenty-three. Thank you for your time. Tonight. We have a few questions before you here. We'd like to know if you've had any observations from the pilot program that you like to share, and we do appreciate any suggestions to refine the scooter program as we go into next steps.

[76:07] Thanks, Dk: Anyone have any observations or suggestions or clarifying questions? I have a few questions that okay, thanks great thanks to Kay. Thanks for the presentation and all the materials. Um, i'm in general, very supportive of of the program. So um, I just have a few questions if I could, just to try to understand a little bit. Um. So on next steps, and I apologize if I missed this. But um! What what's the is the general idea, as far as formalizing into a bigger program is, Is there expansion in terms of area and and number of vehicles? And if so, can you just summarize that? And i'm sorry if I miss this. No problem uh Ron, a lot of that's to come. There's still a lot of talks to to be had in terms of what the phasing of the you know the roll out. The expansion looks like what we need to do, and in East Boulder um to bring that up to par. Um! What are the at the ideal number of scooters that we would have, and so through continue coordination with Lyme and also our stakeholders. We'll we'll come up with those uh details as we move forward.

[77:18] Okay, Got it? Um! And then like to. Also, I I see some of the um data on uh forty-seven percent of respondents would have taken a car, if not scooter um sounds reasonable. I'm just curious if if we've had a chance yet to be able to um describe impact on Moch our most shift goals like, Are we at that far yet, or is it hard to? I'm just like kind of roughly, or is it sort of haven't had a chance to do that yet? Well, the the moch your goals in the Tmp right now. Um, for sov trips within the city is actually going down it's under fifty. However, it's some of the regional trips that Haven't budged much which are up there in the high seventys. Still,

[78:03] So right? So my question is, is, the is the impact, the the impact of the scooter program on mode shift. Um. Much of progress do we have that? We know what what share of the wedge the scooter program is on, and it's fine. It's the answers. Yeah, We'd have to come back to that and do that analysis. Don't have the information tonight. Sorry, Ryan Brian. I will know. I I forget if it was eighty or eighty eight. But the the vast majority of these of users are local here. Um! So they're not regional and commuters, except for you know, ten to twenty percent. Um. So my my guess is that that helps answer your question, too. Yeah. Well, I mean I I would I would stipulate the I. I I believe these are reducing card as i'm just i'm just curious how excited I should be like. Hi! So i'd be excited, really excited. Um, I'd like to be really excited. So I look forward to the data when that's that's ready. But yeah, I mean this. I so. Um, i'm just trying to understand the day a little bit. I guess. One more question that. Dk: um just on the on the uh equity and the racial like we category.

[79:04] I lost my place here. But um, I I think I said two things. I was curious about one um. That participation was relatively low on the like the low income program. Um, And I was just curious if there's any like hypotheses or ideas about like what's going on there. And maybe this is like. The point of the next stage is to work on that more. But i'm just curious if you have any um if you have any. I don't know anything to share on that, You know we have some ideas, but I really don't want to make any assumptions at this point. I think it's really going to take some some more in depth work with our community uh connectors program and and working with those communities a bit for to figure out. You know what those all those barriers actually are. We have some ideas. But okay, okay, thanks for the clear. My question. I appreciate it. That's all I have, can we? So all I wanted to say the case Well, thank you for your presentation, and I am just so grateful to hear that there's gonna be a change on how these um the line scooters are docked. I know that it's a huge concern for the community that there there's been lots of places where I've read where people are just like they're even annoyed about how they the students, or whoever's writing them at that particular time, leave the scooters all over the place, and I think that will help

[80:26] and fix the problem, and even the upkeep for the scooters long term will be a better thing, right? So I just wanted to point that out. So I think that's really important. Thank you. Yeah, no one else. Yeah, Hi, thanks. Dk: that was um I The The memo was a lot of fun to read. The The graph report is looking really interesting. Um, I was curious. If you could tell us a little bit more of the back story behind, you know, when we were trying to decide whether to do the pilot and where to do the pilot. We did not have a firm answer from Cu about whether they were going to be allow them.

[81:06] Um! Clearly they did, because we have data on their usage. And well, Bill, and you know all kinds of other places that are campus. Um. So can you explain a little bit about what what you know about how the University arrived at the same kind of decision that we did. And do you have feedback, whether the University is planning to continue or expand or modify its its program, or where it's absolutely. Yeah, I mean as recall it was uh City council that asked us to try this in the East border area, and uh and see was really following our lead in terms of where we'd launch this, and and at first um see you was somewhat adamant about having these scooters on their campuses. Um! And so uh staff internally there at Cu. Um worked with their um leadership to allow to try it out to experiment uh with these scooters on the um, the east boulder. Sorry the East campus, and also Williams village. Um,

[82:07] you know, when we were directed to initiate the program. Uh, we were asked to go completely dockless, and uh and so, but he scooter m sorry. So you made the decision to go directly to a designated parking area situation which was really interesting to watch, because we collected a lot of data from Ceo, and how it was operating at the University, and they've maintained that um a status quo there of of having the more of the docked system, if you will, using virtual stations and um. And so since then they they have also been um experimenting with bringing the scooters over to main campus and have um installed three new stations. So um administratively, we're we're able to make changes to the E scooter program without going to council. Um, And we were making those changes based upon the the need, and so we made an administrative decision to um allow each other to advance on the main campus crossing that um twenty-eight people order to to see the effect to see if those trips would be made all the way to campus, and it's been um so far successful, according to

[83:15] Okay, Good. That's That's good information. Thanks. Um. Oh, oh! I had the other question in mind. Um, it'll come to me, and just to like tomorrow, you know. Oh, oh, uh b cycle, have have you? I? It looks like you've done a lot of outreach and feedback from a bunch of different businesses in the area and groups. Um, what does B cycle think about this? I note that most of the trips are about a mile. It was remarkably consistent across all of these areas. Um! And we think that the cycle trips are usually longer. But I was just curious whether we've heard anything from them about how they think that this. This the East Scooter availability has affected the cycles core business. You know they're both kind of serving two different inches. So the so the bike trips are a little bit longer, you know. They're over a little over two miles

[84:08] right now. Um B cycle is experiencing exponential growth right now with e bikes. Yes, and then also the membership program. I see you boulder and uh, and so there, you know, because it's a dock system. We don't. We don't really have any complaints around the system. Um other than I can't find a bike or this. This bike is out of juice, and you know, and they've been working so hard to to keep up with demand. But it's interesting, because, you know, when we did the Rfp. Process Um, both be cycle and Lyme went in together on their Rfp. To compo what? To complement each other and to date. I think it's working pretty good. You'll see. Sometimes we've got deployment zones that have both uh the the do you cycle bikes? And we've got the um he scooters Park, you know. Nice, you know, right right next to the station there. So um! I think they've been complementing each other. Well,

[85:08] um! And there seems to be like I said, a a niche for both. And and when I think about combining, you know the trips that have, because, you know, right now there really hasn't been a lot of too much space for mind to operate and talk about what that mode shift has that affect a mo chef? When I start to think about the kind of citywide expansion plus b cycle, the overall shared micro mobility. I think that's when we're really going to be able to take those numbers and see how it is affecting our overall mark mode, shift and displacing those motor vehicle trips um altogether, and and also the greenhouse gas savings. It's going to be need to factor those in as we move forward, and we can report back on what those findings are. Okay. Um, I I'm pretty familiar with the geographic limitations on where the pilot was. I definitely encourage us to to open it up to larger areas of the city as we move forward,

[86:01] just want to be on the record on that I was never up teach Fan of keeping them, you know, restricted to Twenty Eighth Street and further east was there a northern limit where they operate? It is Jay. Okay, yeah. Up to this I am seeing it. I'm looking at the heat map. Um fascinating. I love the graphics in this um report. The presentation. Um, but i'm looking at the heap map, and there is quite a bit above. J: Yeah, just a little bit. But uh what what really stands out to me is that um Belmont is heavily traveled. Um thirtieth, of course, is the the of the show, but there's almost no or very little use on Iris, and that is, I think, reinforcing how unpleasant uh Iris Avenue is for travel in any mode other than in a a motor vehicle of some kind. So if people are following the rules, they're expected to be in that bike lane on Iris, because there is a bike lane there and not use the sidewalk. Um, i'm pretty confident the most of the users of these on Iris would be on the sidewalk, anyway,

[87:08] not withstanding the rules. But um! It's really that heat map is showing us. This is kind of a no go zone, even though. Um, there's a there's still a lot of users going all the way up to Iris, you know, from Thirtieth Street, Um. And other places. So to me it just reinforces the urgency of of correcting Iris. Uh, it's rightfully in our, you know, can priority um network. But I want to use this as another data point for saying we need to fix this singer rather than later. Well, just to be clear to that, Iris Um, you know, east or west of Twenty Eighth Street is not included in the current boundary. Um, and so i'm not sure what what part you see, but maybe not belong. I'm looking at the hem from Iris from twenty eighth all the way over to I guess would be for forty-seven. Okay, Got it Got it? Yeah, there's There's almost no nobody over there. Um. Compared to the other East West corridors.

[88:10] Yeah, Well, for some of these other destinations I'm having a hard time figuring out what the heck would be that far out on Belmont, for instance. So I hear you. But well, there's actually quite a bit of uh travel in between a lot of our underserved communities. So folks coming from San Lesaro over to Samuel sent to sign Wendell Santro. There was actually quite a bit of interplay. Yeah, this is just fascinating data. So thank you for this. I really Um, yeah. So other than uh encouraging you to, you know, Continue: I I find these results really. Um encouraging. I do think user behavior paired with, You know the financial incentive for this. Using your lines, we are going to help curb some of the the negative impacts that we are seeing um and overall. I think that um the the safety we we, if we are shifting people from

[89:03] private vehicles on to scooters. Um! Just the safety benefits from them, not menacing other people on the road is is pretty significant. Um, I recognize there have been a couple of crashes. I'm curious whether the person who was um impaired uh, like I think he was drunk, maybe from what I saw in the report Um, who suffered a head injury uh whether that was before or after the innovation that line has with a little sobriety test before you can check one of these things out. I mean, what a great idea! Like if If we could do half of these measures for motor vehicles that we are employing to make these line scooters safer, we would have much safer communities overall. Um, I think my only other comment it when we were talking earlier um before the pilot, or wondering about how Geo fencing worked, We got some really rosy predictions about how precise the Geo fencing could be, and so I was surprised and a little dismayed to see in the raft report that at the moment. It's not accurate enough to tell whether this shooter is on a bike land on the street or on the sidewalk.

[90:09] Um! I would absolutely prefer that they'd be allowed to be on the street. Um, you know the North South corridors from uh like ninth to nineteenth, I think the memo said Seventh, but seven doesn't go through um. But to assume, uh, but that these scooters are being used on the on the road where it kind of feels safe and secure, and you know it's It's not hectic uh, but rather than have them disabled throughout the entire area, I think we can treat them more or less as we are treating bicycles. Um in the sensitive um pedestrian dense areas. And just, you know, Trust the people sorted out. I guess maybe i'm being Polyann that way. But again, it's better than motor vehicles, if not being able to use it. To get to the boulder. Bookstore is a disincentive to going there at all. Uh, you know, I would rather assume that they're gonna They're gonna use the the road um to get there and allow e scooters to be used in that in that downtown area.

[91:07] That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, thanks, Thanks, Dave. Um, It really Yeah, that's great uh great results to see, and i'm excited about the direction of everything. Um! And as to you had noted um some of the streets that uh almost totally traveled, or in our can network, which I think is always it's also really um uh great! To see that you have those that will. We can expect even more ridership. I you know, with the improvements that are coming um to some of those arterials. Um, I get a few questions. Um, I have a question uh, you know, just kind of a background question about the dismount zones. Um. So does this mean If somebody is riding on the sidewalk, they have to dismount because okay, And then on those three. So

[92:02] okay, thanks, uh, But they could be outside of those areas technically, so essentially that shaded yellow area was basically all bikes and scooter skateboards. Um! Must, you know you must dismount in those zones, and you'll see the you'll see the the cows on the on the pavement, indicating, you know which sections of sidewalk or or just not. Sounds okay. Thanks. Yeah, I I notice i'm on a Curl Street Mall. But I guess I didn't notice previously kind of in the areas around. But yeah, right? Exactly. Um, no. I'm sure sure that there is some registered. Um uh I had a question. I was just curious about the survey. The um uh the note about allowing access to shared scooters past hours of operation for people working the service industry. I'm just curious how that how that works, or how that would might work um if there.

[93:00] Well, if they're tied to a membership program, it'll be. We're capable of, you know, discerning who is, you know, part of that membership program, and who isn't? And right now, so some of those details will be worked out as we move forward if we're able to create these membership programs and our Gids. But, um, man, it seems like with this technology right now so much can be done. Uh, except for the preciseness of the Geo fencing. That's kind of the one thing, but from an operational perspective, you know, we could slow these things down in certain areas we can turn them on. For some folks we have certain membership um options and and what not. So there's a lot of things we can do. Um, It will work through those details as we as you roll it out. Okay, Great thanks. Um. And then my other questions. I just really curious about the the parking potential. Um, uh, I Could it be? Well, I guess my first question is, how like, if you decide to go ahead with adding more designated computer parking spaces? Um! What is the role

[94:02] of transportation and community vitality together in that? Or who like, how does, How would that work? It's how definitely definitely in the the downtown area. And you know what that looks like with curbside management um and integrating those um parking areas. But you know, right now we're looking at you know areas around the peripheral of the downtown Dismount zone where we'd have those parking um zones looking at both on and off streets, and that's all still to be determined as well as we as we move forward. But obviously most definitely, you know, coordination between our two departments. Okay, thanks. And then so that would be the the first kind of target area would be right outside those discount zones? Or is there also consideration for the like other parts like throughout the city Settle kind of? I think we're taking this approach um citywide, and we're developing criteria to identify those candidate areas. And then we'll go into the um, the stakeholder outreach and talking about where these things would go. And um. You know there's a There's a lot to it when you start to designate. You know some of these on street and off street areas. And who's affected and whatnot especially, you know, with local businesses and whatnot. But no, I think there are some neighborhoods, too, that could benefit from um having designated parking areas.

[95:16] Um, It's good. A lot of the complaints that we've received from folks are in those um residential area this, and not so much in the um. You know the activity centers today, but kind of on the outskirts and and whatnot. So Mhm okay, thanks. Um. And i'm curious because I've seen um. I've seen bike parking use as a way to daylight intersections, and i'm wondering if this scooter parking could could have that sort of um function as well, and then also be serving, you know, even even greater purpose. That's a great idea. Absolutely. I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay, Um, yeah, And that might, for folks who are wary of losing a car Parking space might also be helpful.

[96:09] The lots of road users um! And then the other. Uh, my! My! One of the thought is just um uh! This is um kind of from my own perspective of where I live. But i'd love i'd love to think about um parking spots where there's like a lot of multi-family house housing um. And so potentially like a lot of users within, you know, a short distance of um of like a a scooter parking area. Um, That seems like just a good, a good, potential kind of data point to us is just kind of the density, residential density. Yeah, that's a great point, absolutely. That could be one of those criteria that we would use to identify this location is, you know, the the density of the housing in the area. Okay? Well, thanks. Um. Those are all questions I have. Thanks any more feedback on a second,

[97:03] Alex. I have. I had my feedback. Really, I asked questions. Now I have. I have some feedback. Okay? Um, Dk: Thank you again. And congratulations on successful pilot. I think One thing that jumps out is um. This was, This is a complete unknown. What like a year year and a half ago and um, now we've done this. And yeah, there's some complaints here and there. But I mean, we've We've rolled this whole thing out, and it's It's incredibly exciting. So um well done. And i'm really glad to see that it's It's gonna move forward, and it's hopefully expand. Um, I I think that. Okay, just a few points that from there. Um! I see in the data. There's just an incredible amount of demand for mobility options, besides cars. I see one hundred and fifty thousand trips in the year. So per day. That's about three hundred and fifteen um, and I guess half ish of those are probably we're. We're um car replacement trips. So hundred and fifty hundred and sixty car trips in the city per day not being taken, um, and hundred and seventeen thousand miles in total half of that again. Miles of sixty, fifty, sixty thousand trips or miles in the city.

[98:14] Uh, avoided by car. I mean, that's that's pretty incredible. Um! And this is in a the a relatively less tense part of the city. If you look at the map uh, if we look at them out. So um yeah, sort of funny looking at the hemap. It just gets it gets really purple, and then it stops because of the Geo offense. So let's open that up. Um! There's there's a clearly a a, a, a huge amount of demand. Um, W. With this we are, we are, I don't know, for doubling, or what the the factor is. But we're increasing the number of people who need more um safe infrastructure. So we need to. We need to, you know. Build that out. And um as we do it, and I think, um! I would just awfully advise that when we think about counsel in, you know, with T Tab analyzing council, This is the kind of thing that you know. You can sort of sort of a brochure test of what you see here, and I think it's um

[99:05] easy to think about, you know, if you if you're um, I I don't know if it's it would be easy to be fretful about opening up to more scooters and more dense parts of the city. But I I think um, it's exactly what we should be doing, and and that's because this is a core component of an overall multimodal system. And um, we, of course, do need to build out more safety support infrastructure as as we do it. Um, so I would just um hope that we could you or we tab or carry the message to Council that you know this isn't just scooters. This is part of a an integrated system that we need to build um If we are to realize our our um various Ts, goals and and other equity goals, or related goals in the city. So um those are my observations. Um. Well done, Thank you right,

[100:03] thanks to you, not seeing anything else. So I think we'll move on to matters. Not only are there any matters from stuff. Yeah, thanks, Alex. I had a um late edition that I missed on uh before we publish the agenda. So I appreciate you asking um. So I just wanted to provide an update on the um sustainability and resilient strategy Report that Chatauqua released. Um. Well, I sent it via email to the Board on October twenty fifth. Um. And I just wanted to provide a brief update on that, because I some of you may have received that and thought like, What is this? Where did it come from? Um. So we've been the city's been working with Chautauqua on this um effort for a a couple of years, and I mean there was Covid and such. So I think we've kind of lost track of time, but it's been a while that we've been working on it. Um! And it's been a an effort across the whole organization. There were folks

[101:09] from Pms and climate, initiatives, um and utilities and transportation all kind of involved in the process. Um And I don't know if anyone had a chance to look at the report, but it's basically a strategy document and includes conceptual um recommendations around infrastructure, including transportation infrastructure upgrades. Um. So just for kind of where things are at to date. We're we're still um kind of reviewing what's in that document, and we'll be evaluating prioritizing the recommendations for programming um in the future and future. Cips. Um, but that work is still kind of Tbd. We we haven't started that work. We are uh just starting to get our kind of resources aligned to identify a project manager. Um! That, I think, is coming out of the city manager's office to help us do that next phase of work to prioritize

[102:09] the projects that are within that report. But it really is cross, you know. Cross cutting from utilities, projects, transportation projects, climate initiatives, projects. So um we'll certainly be back with future information and future updates on that. But I just wanted to give you just a brief summary of kind of where that came from, and um, that there will definitely be more in the future that you all will be plugged into awesome. Ask him that report is interesting to what about what? What else got on there? Any other matters from staff or questions on that item? Nothing more for me. Thanks out. I move on to matters from the board. The first thing is, is the

[103:00] our opportunity to weigh in on the recruitment questions for the two thousand and twenty-three tab applications, and I appreciate some clarity from staff. Here are we just being asked for broad feedback? Should we be words? Nothing? What level of feedback would be most appreciated? Um! So I can chime in with kind of my thoughts. And then Meredith um feel free to as well, and I I imagine others just on tab might have a recollection of the history. And how you guys have um kind of informed for the development of the questions really from my understanding. Um, each Board kind of deals with these differently. Some boards um, you know, revise them, and have something that they would like to contribute to. How the questions are asked or framed other boards. Just kind of leave it to the staff to deal with um, so we wanted to just provide it as an opportunity. If Tap wanted to weigh in on the questions. Um, but there's no prescribed process for this city wide,

[104:14] cool, and by chance Could you by chance display the questions? Oh, Yes. Do you want me to put them up, or do you have a Meredith? I can work on it. I think that. Okay, thank you. I don't have the amount in any family that so can start. Uh lori's uh, while they're coming up. His listening with on tab who's read them? Have any feedback? Tila um. I like the change to Number six. Um. What personal experience you have that can lend to advancement and diversity, equity and inclusion on the board. Um. This question,

[105:01] probably about four years old now, but was basically, what can what personal experience do you have that can lend diversity of thought, I think, was how it'd be first began. Uh, but this is much more uh focused on um di issues, which I think is an appropriate place to pivot and kind of a better way to ask the question, who we are trying to? And what can we do differently? To make transportation investments that serve historically under serve community members is a really good like. Give us some bright ideas. Kind of question. Um, the proposed question. Nine, I think, is um almost too big in reach because it's sort of asking. Okay, smart guy, how would you fix our like budget shortfall? I think we've had multiple working groups. Think about multiple times. Um, it's uh it's basically saying uh, since maintenance costs keep going up uh we um Our funding sources stay pretty much flat. We're losing chances to build any enhancements. And so ha! What is your approach to continuing to meet our transportation goals while balancing the competing needs for limited resources?

[106:08] I that's just a such a big question that i'm not sure we would get Very um, certainly not focused answers, but probably not very useful, answers. Um! We might that better ask you what kinds of considerations should be more important or less important when we're trying to to figure out what to do with competing needs for limited resources. But I just think the question, as it's phrased, is just two giant it was. It was about as bad as the question. We tried to replace it with um with the with the number eight that's been pressed out. Um! Which was something like, How do you resolve regional in commuting problems or something, you know, huge like that. So I would just shy away from asking such a giant giant scope of a question and be a little bit more targeted, and what we're asking them to to assess and to suggest.

[107:00] Do I have the right ones up that you I agree with you. I think I would try to keep one question for question and keep the questions not to advance where someone who spends a bunch of time on the cip could maybe answer that question. But we're not excluding people who don't even know where to begin or haven't had the time to begin, so I would. General Feedback would be. Keep them a little broader. One question per, And then on the last one um kind of implies we've achieved, we're achieving our team goals. I think we're maybe phrase that towards how could we make progress towards our our team goals? Because we're um. We're not there yet for a vision Zero city, especially any other feedback. I I probably waited too much last time. But I the general comment I do, for as I agree agree with um what I've heard, and I think

[108:06] now thinking about it with another year a year on um. Yeah, I think some of these they're they're So they're kind of like techno every tech no focus, and they they kind of like. I think they they They imply that you should have. You know we're looking for, like I don't know technical folks, planners and engineers and um, and it would be nice if it was I don't know you sort of felt just like it was meant to be more inclusive to focus and asking a question about like, What are you excited about to bring to the City of Boulder? What do you think we need to do, and not not tie it to like some specific goals that the city has, but just invited more creative um kind of approach. But Now I here I go. I guess i'm proposing more questions, so I don't know I i'm happy to just let it ride. But I I do think it would be interesting to

[109:01] think about something that's just like. What do you want to offer? Thanks, Ryan. Anything else not seeing anything staff? Do you have enough from us on that. Yeah, Can I stop share? Is that okay? Yeah, yeah, I think that works. We can certainly um revise and pair back and simplify, make it less technical, definitely awesome train. I tell us about the world day of remembrance. Yeah. Well, thanks, Alex. For putting this on the agenda. It's really important to me as a traffic um victim. Um survivor. And so yeah, i'm excited to say that last week the official Declaration was read at the City Councilman meeting, and Boulder recognizes November twentieth as the world day of remembrance for traffic victims. Um, As events happen across the country throughout the week. Our second annual event in Boulder will be held on November nineteenth, which is this coming Saturday and is Co co-hosted with It could be me the city of Boulder and Dr. Cog.

[110:25] We will meet at five Pm. In front of the downtown Court House. We will hear from our mayor, Aaron Brockett Council member Bob Yates, who was a victim of traffic, while he himself, last year, and members from our city staff doctor called, and a representative from Congressman the Goose. Immediately afterwards we will begin a short memorial walk that will showcase buildings that are illuminated with a color yellow as a symbol of support and unity to the families of the people of our community that our community has lost. We also have an art exhibit, and the lawn in front of the courthouse to pay tribute to the thirteen lives lost in Boulder County this past year. Um! I sent a little earlier, and that was meant for. Now. Um! There is this beautiful thing that they did in la um. They have

[111:10] halos that are representing and kind of like what um white bikes do for for cyclist that are hit um. They have halos for pedestrian deaths, and so I thought it would be really cool to incorporate something like that. I'm trying to get a hold of the artists to see if we could do something similar. Obviously we we have very little time, but in the interim we could do something fun. I mean not fun, but something around that, because I think it's really really cool. Um! So I just want to thank you know It's been a pleasure to work with everybody on on this, with the city of the the Transportation Mobility Department, and especially David Kem. He's been amazing um, and has worked so hard to make all of this happen. And so, please, if you haven't thought about it, please come um again. It's at five Pm. In front of the courthouse.

[112:06] I've heard back from Tela and Becky and Alex. I don't know Ryan, if you can make it. We'd love to see you there, and I think I have to make it public, since we would all be there. So I mean, I don't know how the technicality of that as tab um, so we can ask our secretary to please publicly notice this event. Oh, thank you to, and then we can all go, and we'll probably not talk much shop, anyway, but just in case. No, thank you guys so much for the time, and hope to see you there. Saturday. Thanks. Training. How I can make it. It's impressive to see how big this is scaling up. I remember last year seeing some photos of it, and now you've got the mayor in the courthouse and all the buildings downtown, and that's uh should be really exciting to to celebrate this um Any other

[113:00] comments under open board comments to up. Yeah, I just wanted to uh to to respond. We've gotten a couple of very well written. Well reason the concerned letters about uh kids on super seventy-three s um on these bikes that are not um legal on our sidewalks. Um. And probably the parents of kids are right, and they are unaware of that fact. And just trying to. There's been a lot of handwriting over community cycles as well about it. Um! And my thinking is that it would probably be a better message, since These are generally school age kids that we are hearing um communities and community members in school. Um, Administrator is concerned about. If we could um kind of come out with something official, so i'm reaching out to um land and Hilliard um to see if he's open or able to to craft a statement. But I think a message coming from principles to individual families of students is probably going to be more effective than some citywide campaign. But I do recognize that Um! That that particular model of Bike is is really uh popular. I've

[114:17] been attending Middle School recently, and so I see them. Um, you know, right up, and I actually see how the other students react to them. When someone gets a new one and um it's it's quite a thing, and I think it It's one of the um one of the vehicles that we hadn't really anticipated when we were trying to come up with the which wheels go. Where um stuff that that Dk has referenced earlier in this meeting. So i'm. I'm hoping that Bbsd. Will take the lead on this, but I just kind of wanted to flag it because it has come through our tab emails. Um, and you know, should be a city wide concern as well. So just curious of any things happening on the staff side that I honestly think via the best one to leave the charge on us. Um, so I i'm gonna have. I think Valerie has some background information she was going to share.

[115:08] Yeah, um, we just we have it the ready that um which wheels go where um slide. If that would be helpful to put on screen for this discussion. You can bring that up real quick, and I was just going to say, as Dk is bringing that up. Um, We have seen some emails coming in to tab and Council on this topic. Um, and it's something that we're thinking about. I appreciate. You know your willingness to reach out to Bebsd to um also kind of advocate for the safety around these devices? And Tila, can I add something? Can you please address the fact that none of these kids are wearing helmets or the majority of them. It's really, I mean, if you're going to address it with Bbsd. I think it. It would be a good thing that parents are aware that you know it could save it's life.

[116:12] So I have a couple of slides speaking about this. Um it. Yes, we've we've been receiving some uh an uptick and growing concerns around certain types of um vehicles. Specifically the super seventy-three, and the onyx and the rad power There's a number of brands out there, and these things can go up to forty-five miles per hour in some cases. Um, and so um a lot of activity around a lot of our schools. A lot of activity around Casey Middle School um in the ideal shopping center. Um! We've seen some of that um, and that is, you know I exactly. One of our things is to partner with the with the the the school district, because that's a way in which we can reach those um junior high students that are are using those, and so um whether it be a combined um effort with tab. I happy to do that, and i'll let you know

[117:05] um. Natalie and Tila work out the details of how you like staffs involve it. Um! And and working with you on this. But um! There's a lot more we can do, I think, at this point to to talk about where um these things are allowed to ride, and and then also um some safety education messaging around them, too. And so um Valerie did mention the the the whe, which will go where? Let me see if I can pull that up here real quick. Um one second. So this is the sorry one second here now. Sdk is looking for that, you know. I think the the markets changing so quickly with the different types of e bikes um, and other devices that are out there, and um some um are able to be modified after market. Um, you know. So there's a lot that we can also do is is what Dk had just um described, and and just helping educate people on the differences between the devices and what is currently allowed or not allowed, and where um, and I think that's what Dk was going to pull up is is our exist

[118:20] materials on that topic? Yes, but i'm sorry about that. I'm working on it right here. One Sec. Here it comes. Thanks. If I could just request that you email it to me. So I can kind of include that in my talk with land And yeah, that was the same graphic on the other side. Yeah, okay, yeah, it just I had. Yeah, and it But it's not really talking about is what the difference between the like class, two and class three is, and that's kind of I think that's where we're at, and and the aftermarket modification is an excellent I will say, though, too, that we did actually provide um guidance. We changed the boulder revised code to address those types of vehicles.

[119:10] So I think it's a matter of updating some of this information, and including those types of devices into this particular chart. Right here. Um, that can be disseminated. Um, you know, throughout our partners. Yeah. But I honestly just getting it to the the drill sergeant. Parents. Is they going to be our most effective strategy. So I appreciate that if you could send that to me, or is that in the um, the draft report uh this Yes, this one. I think it is in the draft report. Okay, I didn't notice that page. Okay, I do worries. I can go ahead and send you um the overall final micro mobility, Guy, which has, you know, all of the different devices where they're allowed to operate. And then also it also has the specific Brc code associated with with each one.

[120:03] I would love that. Thank you. Yeah. So i'm not going to do this on behalf of Tab. I'm doing this as a you know It's a real sergeant, Mom, but um just wanted to let you know that it's been a concern, and I wanted to make sure If anyone you know watching this or checking in on, you know his tab. Notice those emails, or you know what is the city doing just to say we're working out. We're thinking about it, and we're strategizing. So in the future will there be like any specific um like any differentiation between the different types of key bikes, because obviously a bike that has a full throttle capacity is so different than one that has a pedal assist type of mechanism. Or you know motor, I mean, I don't know. So would that be something that the city could consider, perhaps classifying them. And so, at least the consumer is clear on what the expectation is

[121:04] absolutely there. There are the different classifications of the E bikes today. Class one, two, and three, and then we've got some of these things now that are outside of you in that classification in which you're called um low-powered electric bikes and so in and those right now are not allowed on, you know, sidewalks from all to use past, and it can be written in the street only at this point. Um! But I think, providing what you're saying is providing some clarification around all these different clear of the classes, and where they can be written today, I I think, is um important to this on, but I can. I also. I guess I have a question. Um. So I I think I think the point is to clarify to parents the the district. That class three, or, I guess, beyond class. Two vehicle. The bikes are are problematic for young people,

[122:01] and and that's, I think, in my I guess modifications to um. And I mean, you see that. Okay? So I think that seems fine. Um, it. Um, I get. I get nervous because I I think that you bikes are such an important part of our of our future system of getting people out of cars, and for those who aren't close to them. It's really easy to just sort of hear. Oh, yeah, the E bikes get rid of the bikes, and I don't know for that power actually has it. I think this is something we need to be careful about. Um that we're. We're not scaring people away from me bikes um, but rather saying, in In fact, E. By X. Are really important for our city's goals, and we'd like your kids to be coming school. Well, maybe not. Your kids don't think about this, but the point is like we should have more e bikes going to schools and less cars going to schools. Um, And there is a um a problematic version. Um, and I suppose. Thirdly,

[123:05] I don't know about others. But like in my high school, when I went to school, I five kids died in cars and separate accidents, and i'd rather have in general have kids of bikes, and you know, in the city than being told They need to go dread cars, and I think there's um, you know there's a There's a lot of safety opportunity here to to to it really encouraging um teenagers to be taking alternative to cars. So you don't require a lot of cases here, but I just want to express my concern about um handing handy for the thinking of this the Bbsd. Which may or may not have um. You know folks who are really thinking about it this way. This is a different class of vehicle, and that's probably something parents don't like recognize. So can I suggest something to that? And now we'll be more than happy to work on this with you. Um! What if we suggest to Vvsd A. A. A pamphlet or something that we can hand out

[124:03] to showcase what the differences are, and making it something that is completely inviting a post like just to support Ryan. I'm. Completely. But um! But if you're not aware of the multiple, you know the variety of bikes that are out there as a parent, and if you want to buy one for a child, you need to know you know what each of them is capable of. So I think that would be really interesting. Maybe something in conjunction with the city. If you guys did something with Pbsd just to kind of Christmas shopping advice. Hey? Christmas is coming. You might want to. Well, it sounds like there's a lot of interest in this, and so i'll. I'll report back and let you know how it goes. Um! But I I hear you loud and clear. Thank you. Thank you for taking this on to you. Thanks for leaving us

[125:02] any other matters from the board, not seeing any uh featured in the topics. Looks like we have a fairly busy December as currently outlined uh, but as always feel free to reach out to me. If there's if there's anything you like added to the agenda, we can work on that in the the setting meeting in a couple of weeks, and with that we've complete the agenda. Can I please get a motion to adjourn for any kilo seconds. All those in favor, thanks to Council members. Fear: Yeah, Thank you. Everyone for being here tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Good night.