July 11, 2022 — Transportation Advisory Board Regular Meeting
Date: 2022-07-11 Body: Transportation Advisory Board Type: Regular Meeting Recording: YouTube
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[2:04] Thank you Veronica. First up, we have the approval of the June 2022 minutes hope everyone got a chance to review those does anyone have any edits that they're like made. Not. Seeing any all entertain a motion to approve them and it says is. have to approve the Minutes as is. i'll second that all those in favor. Of a three. Training for. Extreme. Okay third item on the agenda is public comments tonight, we have to public hearings, one about the capital improvement program And what about the downtown boulder station if you're here tonight to.
[3:05] Talk about those we have Alaska to hold off until we get to those items on the agenda, but anyone wishing to speak about anything transportation related to the board. now's the time to do so and you'll have up to three minutes if interested. If you're interested use the reaction tool at the bottom of the frame to to raise your hand. And Veronica I see Garrett has his hand raised. All right, Gary i'm gonna ask you to use and then all three minute countdown Could you confirm that you are able to me, before I start the countdown. I was muted, right now, can you hear me. Perfect okay 30 minutes starts now. Thank you very much, I sort of wonder bring an issue to your attention that I am sort of becoming increasingly frustrated by in the sense that.
[4:04] I live in gun barrel on city streets that is increasingly being saturated with commercial vehicle traffic, who are seeking shortcuts around the diag and other ways that are becoming increasingly congested I just had my wit's end here, because I this street I live on crosses. An open space trail. And you know, there are people. Crossing this often. And when semi trucks large vehicles. With trailers. You know, present a pretty real hazard, and I can tell you, like the amount of vehicles going down here at speeds that are well in excess of the speed limit. And even if they were traveling in the scheme of it, they would not be able to stop in time to avoid a pedestrian or biker. You know, and I sort of did a little bit of legwork in the sense that I was looking for guidance on whether or not boulder has a truck route or anything. For routing commercial vehicles, like longmont does, and I could find no such regulations and it's concerning to me because you know as boulder is being sort of built around by other.
[5:12] You know, municipalities and townships you know, there is an increasing amount of traffic, and you know, the amount of ups trucks fedex trucks free trucks that are all using this city street that has residences on it. I just don't know you know what my recourse here it's I don't know who to ask, or who to talk to and there's really not much guidance in the sense. In terms of city regs so it's just kind of here I am you know counting vehicles in the hundreds that are going by on a daily basis, that are you know, a nuisance to me, but also a hazard to people using this trail. And I can pretty much count every day, I hear the squeal of tires from a vehicle coming to that crosswalk finding a pedestrian there were a biker and. More than one occasion i've had almost break up this fights between people so like this is clearly a place where there is a lot of tension.
[6:07] And I am seeing an increasing amount of truck traffic and I don't understand why they're using this street as a way to you know go by, you know, the amount of garbage trucks alone. And there isn't garbage day you know six days a week, so i'm just curious you know why I sort of have to put up with this, and what I can do to sort of like stem this or am I just sort of stuck. In sort of being a interstate for commercial traffic so and that I will use my time, thank you for your attention. Thanks Garrett do sorry to hear about this year mind sharing which street the truck traffic is on. yeah I live on North 71st so it crosses the logo trail. Okay. And it runs 252 where there's a giant sign that says, you know, welcome to city of boulder you know there's. photo radar so it's pretty clear signage that that's a city street so anyway thanks.
[7:05] Thank you. See once eagle has her Andrews. Alright, when I asked you to on you. and your three minutes begin now. I was just at the town hall meeting for the place just ready to speak there, but I can't be in two places at once, so I don't know how to avoid this. But I was riding my bike today. out to my comparative property for the board of assessment appeals with the state to to fight my property taxes. On workflow which is out of your district, I know it's not in the city of boulder it's before 95th and on arapahoe it's right offer up Oh, and it was um where does the city end, can you tell me, is it 75th is it before 75th.
[8:03] The city border margin. I don't want to tell you about stuff that's problem in outside of your district, you know i'm just trying to. do the right thing here. can't tell me where the city ends. Sorry Lynn is Lynn talking about Rocco and 75th. that's outside of the city of boulder foundry. Okay, and 65th is in 63rd where does it end like. it's around in Garrett can help. But when we're taking we're taking up your time so I want to be mindful of that. yeah and. In any case, and. I i'm finding the shoulder is like a foot in places, and then it shrinks to be less than a foot and i'm riding my bike and 70 years old in April of 23 and i'm.
[9:08] These big hall or tracks are coming by and you know Western disposal and construction stuff and cement tracks and major stuff with with a very narrow. shoulder for me to ride my bike and i'm i'm trying to not drive my car but. I don't see how that's very possible when i'm going East out of city limits so maybe you need to consult with the county about the shoulders being wide enough. And in one place the shoulder was even even rated you know, like the asphalt was so I had to go inside the white line and just to. You know, get continue on my route and, and this is like pastoral beautiful country like it's like sonoma valley out there and like people can't really ride their bikes out there.
[10:10] So I was just wondering if anything can be connected with the county to produce something more feasible and also still the whittier fire is a problem, every time i'm going West on. On Pearl and i'm suddenly in the street and I don't like competing with cars and and with yeah that's just not reasonable for older folks especially so thanks. Excellent the city staff on it provide some insights about what's going on on arapahoe both in the city Oh, I see. Oh gets a quarterback next and then maybe staff going to provide a response about arapahoe and then the truck traffic on 71st. All right, Kurt I asked you to on mute yourself.
[11:02] And i'm starting your 30 minutes now. Okay sounds good, I just wanted to speak briefly on behalf of Community cycles about 3825 minutes three. You should have received an email from us. Basically, we feel that it's important that the north, south connection be maintained between walnut and and frontier as envisioned in the. Transportation connections plan, but we don't feel that it need be, for street, we think that a multi use, there would be an appropriate compromise. We understand the crossing the railroad tracks is is problem, but if we don't reserve this right away now then it's going to go away and there's no way to ever get this connection, so we feel that some connection is important, but it may not be a full on strict connection thank.
[12:00] Thanks hurt. If there are no other people interested in speaking during public comment i'll turn the city staff, if you have any response to these comments are here. Sure things Alex so. For somebody first that's something. We can look into to an end Gary I see just popped on, I know, there was some conversation about some of the first with the county and i'm not sure Karen are we are we still that part of our system still. yeah i'll just take my name and title for the record Garrett Slater principal transportation projects engineer so. The county has approached the city about the possibility of doing a swap for East baseline road and North 71st and we have not yet made a determination. With regard to how to proceed there, but that is up for consideration, I would just say that there are.
[13:03] portions of 71st that are under the control of the city and portions that are not but. We work with the county very closely in those areas where there's meandering boundaries, and we can take a further look and to what steps can be taken for safer bike and pedestrian crossings have so many first. yeah definitely thanks Garrett, and then for arapaho so our limits and Gary can confirm this, I believe it's like at 63rd. there's a kind of a neighborhood street on the North side, where the city limits and and then it becomes county east of there. And then there was a question or was there a question about kind of multimodal projects some along that corridor. So we can we can certainly share more information with Lynn around the state highway seven regional work that's happening.
[14:07] And the work that we're doing in our plans with East arapahoe Garrett, did you have anything specifically that you wanted to share related to stay at seven regional work. Just that the work is continuing in terms of the planning and design efforts to consider all modes of travel. and providing for better choices, because it's pretty clear to anyone who's experienced the sections east of 75th street that the choices become pretty limited, from that point eastward, so I can appreciate the concerns that were raised and that's the same type of. concerns that are being considered as the preliminary design moves forward. And I think under matters from staff tonight we'll have an update from Nathan, about the Multi use path within the city limits on on Easter Fo.
[15:01] Seeing no more hands up we'll move on to our first public hearing of the night it's on the. Capital improvement programme city staff will provide the board with the presentation and we'll be able to ask some clarifying questions after that we'll open it up to a public hearing. And then there'll be some tap liberation and no formal motion so i'll turn it over to Garrett for the presentation. Right, I am all i'll see if I can get the right window selected here. alright. So hopefully you see the full screen and not the presenter view.
[16:03] Correct okay great. All right, alright, so this is the third stop and the the presentation of the 23 to 28 transportation and mobility department capital improvement program and the. Quick recap is at our first meeting we provided an overview of the already approved 22 to 27 capital improvement program and then at our meeting last month we provided a draft overview and proposal for consideration and took. That feedback and comments of tab members at that meeting, and then this evening we're here to request a formal recommendations and planning board of the tip so we'll go ahead and.
[17:00] move forward So these are the aspects of the presentation, it will look very similar to the one from last time. And the purpose of our capital improvement program it differs from the annual budgets in the programmatic elements and some of the divisions in the capital approval program allows us to make. steps toward investing in the transportation system with one time enhancement projects, as well as making investments and the existing infrastructure to take care of the the major assets such as our streets are multi use paths our bridges and our sidewalks. And when we consider the level of and the quantity of assets that we have in the Community it's important we recognize the literally billions of dollars, that we have all over our Community, that we need to take care of. And, much like an individual homeowner or car owner or a bike owner, that you have to perform maintenance and sometimes enhancements to those items our transportation assets are no different, and so we make investments in those policies consistent with the recommendations from the.
[18:14] tmp which are summarized here on this slide. So the current recommended tip for 23 to 28 includes $88 million and total investment, with approximately 9.7 million and grant funding, with an average total of 13 million per year, and our major capital maintenance and multimodal programs comprising about $8 million that per year. The funding largely comes from our sales tax and through grant funds we have three different funding sources, we have the transportation fund the transportation development fun and the boulder junction fun.
[19:01] And we don't have any current projects in this tip that are recommended from the boulder junction fun, that is because. Most of the all of the key public improvements identified for the boulder junction phase one have been now implemented, and so we are going to be focused on this. effort for the CIT brown the transportation fun and then development fun and the development fun is funded by excise taxes that supports the impacts from growth and development, and being able to make investments in the system to accommodate those impacts. So as we've noted a number of times in the last couple of months in our presentations the city has a long history of turning our dimes and quarters into dollars through grant opportunities. The largest program that we typically are in pursuit of those dollars would be the transportation approval or the tip program through the Denver Regional Council of governments or Dr kg.
[20:04] And then we also have other funding sources such as each SIP and tap and srt s which we've discussed last month that we routinely pursue and we noted. Last time, the projects that we have submitted applications for in the tip and we expect here by the end of the month early August to get some initial indication of how our most recent applications are fairing. There are also a variety of new federal notice of funding opportunities that are out and available to local agencies to pursue. And we are working individually as a city, as well as collectively with our local agency partners partners in the boulder county region, as well as the greater Denver Dr cod region to explore funding opportunities for. Improvement programs and projects that might see benefit from these additional funding sources.
[21:03] One of the major factors that says, challenging the ability of the transportation and mobility see IP to deliver further on the goals of the 2019 tmp is inflation. You can't escape the news of inflation it's pretty much Everywhere you go right now, and the construction marketplace is no different. And I think I mentioned last month that we saw 15% year over year asphalt price increases, I have another anecdotal piece of evidence to pass along. That, for the first time ever, one of our own called track contractors requested a mid year price increase to account for the increasing cost of fuel and particularly. Diesel to be able to transport materials and equipment to and from the Community, they had requested some additional pricing increases to reflect that so it continues to be a challenge that our purchasing power is going down a little bit each year.
[22:04] And this is a slide that we shared last month that speaks to that particular challenges their unique to the infrastructure marketplace this information coming from the see cost data book and indicating the double digit growth over the last couple years. So, as noted the CFP provides funding for both individual one time projects, as well as for programs, the majority of this funding going toward our programs. And the mix of that is approximately 60% of programs and 40% of projects. So this is a recap, of the tabular summary of each of the individual line items within the CIT programs. The but the top seven or eight are primarily focused on capital maintenance and then the bottom five or six are focused on multimodal enhancements to to making safe and.
[23:03] Improvements this the safety and mobility of our multimodal system and we'll talk a little bit more about that as well as recap, some of the information, information from last month. I what I did want to note, as shown here in yellow and this was noted in the memo changes from last year, see tip. To this year see IP as the consolidation of individual line items focused on local streets. to break in recognition of investments, not being prioritized on our core arterial network or can and so each of the roles highlighted in yellow here, show the changes from the CIPS presented last year. And then on the individual projects, the only new project proposed for this year is the traffic signal at 14 grand Canyon to support better crossing and better operation of the downtown boulder station which we will actually talk about as the next agenda item this evening.
[24:04] Then the summary of projects in the Development Fund are. largely focused on the implementation of a single project, the 28th in Colorado intersection signal maintenance upgrades and providing funding for development, coordination, as well as grant pursuits under the typical imagined tmp implementation. So just taking a further look at some of the programs I don't want to get too far into this since we've kind of covered it last couple months, but a reminder that the largest source of our capital maintenance programs goes towards our pavement management program and we're. pleased to note that this has expanded in its scope and its impact as it's being leveraged to make safety mobility enhancements for Vision Zero as well as the low stress walk and bike network on quarters, such as lehigh that we visited on our bike tour, a few weeks ago.
[25:06] We also have the pedestrian programs that are focused on. Proactive repair of sidewalks just as a brief reminder the boulder revised Code or city code says that the responsibility of maintenance and long term repair have sidewalks adjacent and properties are the responsibility about land owner, but because the. walking is the fundamental mode of transportation in the city, we would look for opportunities to identify funding to make repairs to the to the sidewalk network, make it more usable and. We work with Jason property owners and have a sidewalk repair program, which is the middle road here identified as repair, replacement in Ada. And then we also have a reactive program where, if an individual landowner would like to make repairs to the sidewalk we will repair that make that repair with them in a 5050 partnership, and that makes us unique and.
[26:04] reared and as most of the cities in the State do not work with land owners to provide supplemental public funding in this manner. And then, finally, we have the missing links program that installs missing sidewalk links, as well as installs pedestrian crossing treatments which are the type of projects, you see, in the images here on the lower right. We also have the Multi use path programs one focused on enhancements which is largely been focused in the confluence path area, as well as the Multi use capital path maintenance. Which is we've got some illustrations of that in the lower right here up by the Community gardens where we repeat those pathways a couple years ago and so that goes towards paving and replacing a bridge decks along the multis talent network. And then, finally, we have our bridge asset management program to help take care of the multitude of miners and major structures that are multi use paths and bike ways and roadways cross because we have 17.
[27:08] drainage tributaries as well as 13 irrigation ditches we have several of these types of crossings and several hundred structures to take care of we need this important funding to be able to take care of these structures. So changes, as noted, to the to the tip include repurchasing of the individual local street line items and to the core arterial network line item and as well the 14th and Canyon traffic's in the replacement. which will happen, a couple of years after the conclusion of the downtown boulder gate expansion. So the other major line item of the CP is our tip local match and tmp implementation. And this is programmed at about an average of 3 million per year and we use this funding source to help provide the bulk of the local match on each of our grant project so.
[28:07] As we find out which of our projects are awarded funding through the tip cycle we're currently going through, as well as the one will be starting later this year and into 2023. We will re purpose, the funds from this tip local maps tmp implementation to provide the local match for standalone projects which will appear and the tip we present to you next spring and early summer. individual projects that we noted last time that the tip as as making possible include the 28th in Colorado protected intersection, which is an outcome of the 30th and Colorado quarter study. And we just had a preliminary design review meeting with our partners. Throughout the city, as well as our partners at si dot this just this past week so we're pleased with the progress on this, and it is continues to be on track for 2023 construction.
[29:04] And this will, of course, build out the protected bike lane infrastructure, as well as convert general purpose lanes to bat lanes in the east, west direction along Colorado avenue. Then we also have the 30 street multimodal enhancements and that project is past the preliminary design and moving toward final design. and will also make multimodal enhancements between Colorado and just south of arapahoe and that one is also on track for going to construction and 2023. The regional transportation and technology grant is going to be funding the Vision Zero as well as smart city investments and we just purchase a lot of the equipment. To bring that to fruition and so will be connecting on number of our traffic signals to the broadband network, which has been installed. by our partners and the information, information technology department over the last couple years so that we can provide more real time dynamic response to traffic operations.
[30:09] And then we also have the safer signals projects that will be replacing signal heads to provide for safety features such as leading pedestrian intervals that are a number of locations around the city. We also have the H super highway safety improvement program funding for traffic signals at folsom pine broadway baseline baseline and mohawk that will be going to construction in 2023. And we also have the East arapahoe multis path project that is went through a seat and was approved by tap here pretty recently and will be going to construction in 2023. And I believe that will be having an update here this evening to talk about it as Alex mentioned earlier we've got Nathan here to provide an update on the status of this project.
[31:06] i'll also be talking about the downtown boulder station here and just the moment. And also, it has noted the 14th and Canyon traffic signal as needed to accommodate better bus turning operation, as well as safety and mobility enhancements for all users at the intersection, and that is slated for construction and 2025. So those are some of the highlights of the key projects and programs that we are requesting that you recommend a planning board. So the next step is that we would go to planning board in August and then we'll be visiting city council and September and October, as part of the overall budget and CFP approval. And so, our request to you is the recommendation, as noted, and with that i'm concluding the presentation and happy to take any questions you might have. Thank you any questions from tab.
[32:06] have one one general question. yeah, thank you for this and for all the opportunities to really learn this process, and my question is, I know that you know the inflation is factored in, to the numbers and costs, increasing over time i'm curious how. How like new new assets, so a new whether it's a new road or a new. path or sidewalks and power all of those factored in, is there's kind of an is there an interplay between the cost of maintaining those new facilities. And the plans that call for those new facilities so i'm just wondering kind of how that maybe it's through this process, maybe it's through some other process i'm just curious. How yeah those those plans and these budgets are sort of aligned over time.
[33:03] that's a great question and so every time we identify a project to be a part of the CHP we are required by our. Budget finance department to answer the question is this going to increase or decrease needs for maintenance of a particular facility. and occasionally we do wind up in a place where we are going to have increased maintenance needs but that's also a question of treat us book so. If we are going to have additional maintenance needs for perhaps a protected bike lane facility, but it's going to make for a safer transportation choices for folks that's the type of trade off that we certainly are open to considering. We strive to to implement capital projects that are actually going to reduce maintenance over time and an example of that is the currently under construction North broadway we cannot. reconstruction project where we're paving that section of street from asphalt and concrete where asphalt has a typical service life of about seven to eight years before it needs maintenance and attention.
[34:09] and concrete you could let concrete go for about 20 or 30 years before it needs maintenance and attention so. Our maintenance crews are now going to spend a lot less time filling potholes on North broadway because we're repaving in a country so that's an example of how we explore odds of avenues and opportunities to try to reduce their ongoing maintenance with projects for possible. Thank you, we can. hear it also question about inflation. And i'm just. Thinking about how to put this into context. So maybe i'll try to kind of specific questions, one how how significant is the is the added cost that we are experiencing due to inflation how significant is that within overall budget, like just sort of order of magnitude and also do you have any sense that.
[35:04] That the transportation department is experiencing inflation, more so than other departments, or is it just sort of across the board, or do you not know that just sort of curious for an overall you know, to understand this in context. Well, so I can say that we. recently went through a round of budget reviews across the department and I had the pleasure to hear presentations from almost every department, where inflation was certainly a factor as to. Whether there was an apples to apples comparison about who is experiencing, it the most Ryan I don't think that there was that kind of information presented. But. So where the inflation is really hitting our department hardest is more on the capital maintenance programs and the operational budgets, because when we build our capital projects. and build those budgets, rather we we try to build in a pretty healthy inflation and contingency factor to help address the likelihood of increased causes that project.
[36:10] moves forward the the annual programs, though we assume a baseline a sort of inflation. Typically, and the two to 3% range and if we're dealing with 10 to 15 What that means is we're having to scale back. On the number of streets that we might be able to ship sealer the number of sidewalk ramps that we can rip and replace and an upgrade we have a quantified. Just how much that's affected us this year, relative to last year, but that's something I can certainly look into a follow up to give you some specific information. yeah and I was just going to add to garrett's point that certainly I think across the organization, those that have kind of capital maintenance projects, they are experiencing the impact of inflation and and then certainly within the transportation sector, you know across the state.
[37:10] In fact, our numbers are from kind of C dot construction costs and X and so we're not alone right it's kind of every sector of transportation when within the state and probably nationally as well. Here I was wondering, with the downtown boulder station, we do identified the need to upgrade the signal at 14th and Canyon. And as its shown in here it's all the local funds would there be anything prohibiting us in the coming year, so to try to get the grants like ah SIP grants to try to make the local cost of that was. we're certainly open to that, and if there is an opportunity will absolutely pursue it typically in order to be successful at.
[38:03] Receiving each set funds, you have to demonstrate a crash pattern or a crash history and we don't really have a strong crash pattern at this particular intersection. we're more looking to be proactive in terms of expecting and significantly increased pedestrian activity crossing the location here, as well as. Making sure that we've got the equipment and the controller, as well as the signal heads, to be able to accommodate that the bus turning movements as safely as possible. So it's more of a proactive rather than reactive if we can persuade our partners that seat up that that's a good use of their funds absolutely we'll explore that yeah. Thanks and then last month we got an update on the 28th in Colorado design projects. And I remember on the Northwest corner there the pork chop island was slated to be removed and then in your slide tonight it showed on a right turn bypass lane has something changed there is that just an old old graphic.
[39:07] I might have grabbed an old graphic so please go with the information from last time and not mine, which might be, I might have grabbed from the wrong file. Okay, no worries thanks anymore more questions from tab. not seeing any will open this up to a public hearing any members of the public that was to provide some testimony on the CIT can go ahead and raise your hand now using the reaction tool. And i'm not seeing any hands come up. So i'll open it up to tab for liberation. And i'll start by saying I would happily approve this as as.
[40:06] I don't have anything dad Alex and I I trust your your direction on that. yeah likewise. yeah I feel like we've we've had a good chance to discuss and influence this over not just last three months, but over a year, so. there's a third is so all going to entertain a motion to. entertain any motions. If not, I will move the tab recommends the staff recommended 2023 to 2028 tip to planning board. I second. Thanks any additional deliberation. If not, all those in favor.
[41:01] passes unanimously thanks Garrett. Next up, we have our second public hearing of the night, which will be about the downtown boulder station Community environmental assessment process I think carrots got this one as well. I do so, I just want to say thank you for your participation and the CFP and looking forward to. Working with you all on the implementation of it in future years, and so we are here to. This evening, asked for your recommendation of the Community environmental assessment process approval of the downtown boulder gate expansion project and. So we presented this last time or last at the last meeting, and so this is your we're here this evening to have the public hearing and asked for your formal recommendation. So, just a quick overview on the project so reminder that the past studies whoops I need to advance.
[42:06] Past studies have shown that the downtown boulder station accommodates more buses and passengers than it was. Size to deliver and it's going to expect it to increase, as we are slowly making our way towards the implementation of brt on highway 119 and highway seven. And the gate expansion project will help to provide additional capacity for transit operations and making better connections for people accessing the station by foot bicycle and or personal vehicle. As well as, and I want just want to know, meaning the Americans with Disabilities Act guidelines so here are some images that depict the existing conditions at the station which serves about the same number of lines is denver's Union station with half the gate capacity and so.
[43:01] The section adjacent to the building station 14 street north of Canyon was successfully converted back in 2014 and 2015. And that was converted to a full transit street and we are looking to do something somewhat similar with the 14 street section self a Canyon it wouldn't be a transit only street but they're providing gates of a similar type of configuration to what you see north of Canyon. So the project scope will provide five additional gates, which includes to sotto sawtooth gates on the West side and one side to get on the east side as well as to parallel gates on the east side. wider sidewalks urban design and landscaping amenities information kiosks as well as we're finding. Here is a sort of a bird's eye view to get a better perspective of the existing downtown boulder station, as well as the 14 street expansion and how it intersects with arapahoe and with Canyon so this slide depicts the zoomed in.
[44:17] exhibit of the the configuration of the gate expansion and shows the gates, as well as potential shelter locations and kiosks as well as a relocated driveway adjacent to what we call the James travel building. just north of the pedestrian crossing on the east side as well as landscaping enhancements and. Provide providing some operational changes to the intersection at arapahoe and 14 to accommodate bus turning moments. So we've participated and Community engagement on this project through a variety of sources, including site visits, with the Center for people with disabilities station pop ups with Community connectors rack card flyers the web page neighborhood mailers and city social media.
[45:15] And we, through that process have received really good set of feedback. For consideration and how to make the project better and some examples of that are on the next slide here we've heard concerns about security and what that would look like, and so we have held meetings with. Our TV security, as well as the boulder police to to note that the there's a partnership in place which would be. extended to these additional gates on the 14th street South and then our TVs evaluating the possibility of how they might add additional security. And the commitment that we are making to our TD as that, through our project, we will. Look, to provide a conduit for fiber and power supply, so that we can connect to the existing security technology that they have inside the building of the the station to provide closed circuit television cameras for security for the personnel who are monitoring that.
[46:19] 24 seven both at the station, as well as its locations remote, so that is an addition to the project and, as a part of the the seep through coordination with other departments and input here at the city, we have. recognized that this project is located in the floodplain and identified a design, which will cause no rise to the floodplain, which is good for all the the. Business and landowners along this quarter and we have also identified a plan that will work in coordination with our partners in the forestry and parks and recreation department.
[47:01] That will look to preserve a couple of high value oak and honey locust trees and some of the other lower value trees that would be removed, will be mitigated with tree plantings as part of the project. So a reminder, the funding for this project comes from a grant through Dr cod, as well as a grant from rtb and about 40% of the funds are coming from the city for approximately $1 million project. So we have been engaged with Community engagement and the concept development through the spring and we are here with you at the public hearing this evening, and this is slated for City Council call up. Agenda on July 21 we got word that the City Council would like a presentation on this next their meeting on on July 21 and so we're looking forward to the engagement with city council and.
[48:01] Police the approval of the seat then we'll move forward with permitting and final design and construction document development so that we can move forward to construction in 2023. So those are all of the sort of the the items that are part of the seat and the key elements of this project, and so what we'd like to ask from you now is a recommendation and approval of the seat to the city council. Thanks Garrett before it to the public hearing is anyone have any clarifying questions. question. Which is I don't know a lot about transit street design so i'm curious in terms of shelter placement like how that is decided is that, based on where there's space, or is it based on like some proximity to the where the buses arrived or sort of the.
[49:03] thought process there. So this location is going to be a bit unique in that we're going to have to work with a number of existing constraints, if we were starting from scratch, we probably like to have a shelter adjacent to every one of the gates. But due to the number of driveways and building entrances and landscaping and utility conflicts we're going to fit them in where. Where we possibly can, and try to situate them as close to the to the gates as possible. Okay, thank you. Any more questions for Garrett. not seen any will open it up for the public hearing any members of the public, there was just speak on this matter will have up to three minutes to do so Veronica see Nick has his hand raised if you're interested in speaking, please use the reaction tool to raise your hand.
[50:01] All right, they don't ask you to unmute and i'll start the three minutes now. They have a quick question here, you mentioned like fiber and. I remember what else but is there any plan to have like like quite a bit of power running in case you guys switch to electric buses. Oh, maybe this isn't like a book for an uber but anyway, maybe, maybe consider electric buses like converting from natural gas, whatever you guys have currently. Yes, I appreciate the question I don't think that we would be looking to accommodate the. The. Charging of the buses at this particular facility along 14 street, and I am probably not the best person to speak to how rtb. Charges the electric buses I think that's probably at their their.
[51:01] At their maintenance facility over on 33rd street. But I think natalie and her Danny are here in the meeting and would be able to speak to that. Danny are you available, I mean I can certainly. Speak to it, but I, it would be great Danny probably has more relevant information than I do. yeah happy to so good evening, Daniel Connor city of boulder principal transportation planner transit program manager. yeah so as far as. You know that the fleet's the fleets in the region are TD, as well as the city's hop fleets we're all looking and taking steps for electrification and you know right now really the the electrification. Decisions and infrastructure is typically being built at garage locations where vehicles are maintained and housed overnight so in in.
[52:09] In boulder for the rtb buses that serve downtown boulder station that facility as Gary mentioned is around 33rd street. And our TV is part of its. As part of the Colorado. Study for brt has is also envisioning a larger maintenance facility in boulder county. really to be prepped and ready to go for electric buses, as they move into that into that space that is part of their kind of long range plan, where they are on, that is, you know, probably a few years out. The city just this context is you know we we partner with via mobility services for the hop service currently there's three electric buses that are in service and that go by downtown boulder station.
[53:02] All of their charging right now is occurring at its facility at the va facility here here in boulder office 63rd street and that's typically where it's working just so that it can be charged overnight, and that the buses can run full during the day when they're out and about. Thanks Danny and Nick for that question any other members of the public wishing to speak during this public hearing. not seen any open it up for a tab discussion. Yes, i'm all right. i'll see you I go. Okay, so I was one of four of the tab members that attended the field trip to visit the site and.
[54:01] I you know I there was a few members of the community that that were pretty knowledgeable there and between us and tab I didn't seem to me like there was anything. I don't know controversial or any big questions is so this seems pretty pretty straightforward least that was my impression, so I don't have any questions, although I think Nick raises a. Excuse me an interesting point me the sort of a broader point about what's the what's our what's our plan for electric buses in boulder, and this is like a pretty big question and I know si.is involved in addition to our TV so. i'd love to talk more about that in the future, but I think that's probably a separate kind of a separate topic for for this one, so now, I think this is. I don't have any questions about this, then i'm happy to happy to support it unless any other TEAM members have any concerns I have I don't know about. Thanks for and. i'm also ready to support it, I hope that we can have a conversation with si.in our TV about the 14th and Canyon signal see if they can be supportive in that.
[55:07] And then I know this is just for the infrastructure and some of the operations decision is going to happen later like which routes stop at which gate. Whenever that conversation does happen, I hope that equity is a big part of that decision making process, some of the routes that. serve boulder. downtown boulder station or more. White color commute our oriented and others are have a larger span of service throughout the day and are more of a local route. And so I think not just looking at what we watch buses have the highest ridership but who's writing the buses and what time of day will help them, hopefully address some of those security and safety concerns. not seen any more hands carrot, do you have any proposed language for us.
[56:02] I think that it was in the memo but I don't have it in the on a PowerPoint slide I think it can be as simple as. That you recommend the approval of the downtown boulder station gate expansion seep to to city council. Okay, very 30 or something. They are exactly with the mem house yes. Oh entertain a motion. Bring for one for myself. I move that tab recommends to the city council. Approval of the downtown boulder station expansion seep. I seconded. Thanks training. And in deliberation. Seeing none all those in favor. unanimous.
[57:00] Thank you good. With that will move forward a little ahead of schedule for agenda item six, which is a staff briefing and tab feedback regarding the 3825 walnut street concept planner view. I believe it's a few. Thanks thanks Alex and actually i'm going to introduce. The danica Pal she'll be presenting this and chatting and please feel free to do the introduction as well. I think we just kind of put us both on this so that somebody would have a chance to introduce the consultant, who I know is representing the developer tonight. People to hear me. We are. Good evening, my name is Shabnam vista and i'm a senior planner at the development review department.
[58:05] So today we have the concept plan for Life Sciences building it's approximately hundred and 12,000 square feet with 226 surface parking provided. A public hearing was held at planning board on April 28 and then the item was presented as a column to city council on may 17. And the key issue that was discussed at city council and referred to, then tab was regarding the transit village area plan connections, the property itself, which is 3025 Valmont isn't in the plan, but it's impacted by the connections plan that's within TV APP. And the applicant has prepared a brief presentation today to talk about that item and their efforts to date to address the issue and get feedback from tab.
[59:08] Great hi i'm danica Pal with trestle strategy group Thank you Shabnam i'm joined here by Daniel eisenman with conscious Bay company, who is the property owner. And Shannon Jones of Stan tech, they are the architect and designer and Tony Thornton also architect and designer with Stan tech. So I know we only have a brief amount of time, maybe we might have a little more because we're early on the agenda, but I have a quick presentation, I will. acknowledge that in my many years of working on projects in boulder and being on planning board. I have never been referred to tab from city council, so this is my first, so we are looking forward to your feedback I think it's a great feedback loop that was just incorporated. So we've done our best to explain what we're working on and trying to figure out and got feedback on at both planning board and Council.
[60:03] And would love your feedback, as we move forward through the process we have just gone through concept reviews, so your feedback is very important. As we continue to refine the site design, we have not submitted site review yet, so this is really integral to the site planning for the project site so. it's a very important meeting for us and so thank you for having us and I will share some of the background information and our whole team is available for questions and discussion. So this project is on the 3800 block of walnut, which is currently occupied by the. restaurant supply company, and we are looking at redeveloping the site into a life science building. it's an old building that needs upgrading and so we're we took the concept planned to planning board and city council.
[61:06] And as part of that there's several connections across this property, the one that we're here to discuss tonight is the TV APP local connector road that was identified in 2007 so i'm going to lead you through our analysis and. feel free to interrupt me with questions if you have them and I see this as a discussion, not just a presentation. So in 2007 many of you are probably involved in the T that planning process, there were a lot of connections identified at that time, some of many of which have been built in, some of which will be built during T about phase two. This property is not in TV out phase two, but it is a Jason to phase two, so there was a collector road identified collecting connecting walnut to frontier underneath the railroad tracks. And it was an item noted under there was it was number 62 local connection, you can see in the bottom left saying let's support let's create a.
[62:10] underpass at the railroad tracks, to improve access to this area and support increase in land use intensity at the time that property owner suggested that they would pay for it. And I think it was added as a connection into the tea bag plan, I will note that the current property owner conscious Bay company is not the same owner. That was there in 2007 so from our research which we've done a lot but haven't fully uncovered everything it doesn't appear, there was a feasibility study for that connection at the time for local connector road. So we are proposing to remove that or during this development process, we were proposing to remove that connection from the plan, and I will. Talk about what connections, we are providing, but I also know that we quickly dip into site review criteria so i'm going to focus on the TV APP connection and happy to answer any other questions as they come up.
[63:10] So when we looked at the feasibility we looked at, not only the underpass which was. identified in the TV APP we actually looked at an overpass and not grade crossing, as well as a multimodal crossing we heard feedback from Community cycles that there would be interested in a multi modal connection across the tracks, so that did enter our discussion and our evaluation. So, during that time we've discussed this with the nsf we actually have a good relationship with them in having meetings and discussing. You know this project with them we're working on a few other projects with them as well. To improve the flood protection in the area jv or civil engineer looked at the fuse about feasibility of an overpass and an underpass. And we reached out to the prior property owners was suggested during our public hearings to find out what they were thinking and what their thought process was.
[64:08] On you know, creating a local road connection underneath the railroad tracks, we also did some cost estimating with our civil engineer. So, from an underpass standpoint, which is what was identified in TV APP we found it technically feasible, it would be financially expensive as well, it would. it's located within the hundred year flood plain and the ramping would extend beyond the sidewalk edges of lone nut into the right of way. And also into the via killer right away so. While the nsf would entertain a connection under their railroad tracks, it would also just be a big deep hole for a road connecting through these properties, we also don't own all sides of the equation, so that would be a difficult road to build with this project.
[65:09] So we look soon overpass what would that look like, could we go over the railroad tracks also technically feasible for the same reasons, it has a lot of ramping it requires a very large ramp up and down. it's also located within the hundred year flood plain it would extend farther beyond the underpass and it would look a lot, like the foothills parkway overpass, which is a very large kind of. ramp up with a lot of embankments and a lot of just physical separations which we don't think would be good for the Community development in this area, so it would have this really giant ramp up and over the railroad tracks. It would create would bifurcated the site, it would create view shed problems. It would also impact connectivity accessibility, we also found from our engineer, that it would request, we would need variances from the design and construction standards if we needed to achieve the vertical ramping necessary to you know get down on both sides.
[66:16] It would have probably accessibility issues, and it would require additional property beyond what conscious Bay owns. So, then, we looked at, well, we can't go under, we can't go over so let's look at grade and as many of you probably know from your interactions with the nsf they don't they will not allow any more at grade road. or trail connections, I can get into the differentiation between the road and trail. But if we were to do an accurate crossing it would require closure of another X rayed crossing in boulder and according to staff who hopefully can talk about this in more detail. Closing any other accurate crossings would cause significant distress to the system we've worked really hard to have safe railroad crossings and so.
[67:10] That was like a real know go with the railroad i've inserted some of their policy statements, I also have some about the trails they their policy says, will allow trails across the railroad tracks if they are with a road. So in the road requires a great an accurate crossing of another location again i'm not the expert on this, but i'm happy to discuss this further with staff and yourselves. So the other connection, that is, identify, this is actually in the tmp connections plan, which is a more recent document shows a trail multimodal connection along the south side of the railroad tracks, so this actually connects.
[68:00] all the way from the TV APP all the way out to each folder and we looked at it was shown in East folder sub Community plan so this appears to be a very strong multimodal connection for which this project could provide for. and provide the trail connection the nsf has said, it cannot be in there right away, and that it has to be fenced anything has to be fenced from the road, so this would be a. 10 foot multimodal connection with the appropriate easements and that would be located, we would put that on our property here and, ultimately, over time, hopefully, it would connect to the rest of the system again, this is our property and when I was talking about the local. Road connection, it would be approximately right here. As many of you know a lot of these lines were drawn with kind of thick markers so it's it and they were the this connection was actually shown on. We believe bns have property, but we would move that off of their property onto ours, and this connection was shown straddling we believe the two properties.
[69:11] So this is the existing site there's the one story warehouse building so here to get into what our proposed project is is this is the multimodal reservation for that multimodal path that was in the tmp. And that would be out of the railroad right away with a fence, and here we are looking at a potential pedestrian path. That would connect to this multi modal reservation and another pedestrian path around the site to provide really good site circulation, which is a in important component of the site review criteria. But not proposing to create a multimodal connection across the road tracks, because we don't believe that's anything that would be supported by the railroad in the future.
[70:00] These are the site connections that we just discussed and you have are submitted materials here's our cover letter, where we describe our analysis and what we went through. Project site and then you can see, you know to wrap up here as well, and a lot of the other multimodal connections here's the tmp connection. TV APP here's our number 62 So these are just these are all the materials we provided in advance of the meeting. And here's our site diagram showing the circulation, which I can bring up in more detail if you're interested showing. Circulation around the site. And then we had some background materials from bsf discussing the different options in the position papers we did include the email to the prior previous property owner and didn't get a response.
[71:02] More than doubtful we ever engaged, since our program was never to redevelop so that was from the owner at the time of to APP. And then here's more of the technical documents so i'm going to stop sharing there and open it up for discussion and questions. Thanks danica. From tab have some questions or feedback. Alex. Thanks Dan I can thank you i'm just could you help to just sort of crystallize um I guess the decision that is being proposed to be made. And the alternative like in the system, maybe the alternative is to do nothing, and if nothing, then what is, what does that mean just just that sense of kind of very simply what's, what are the other options on the table that we should be thinking about or.
[72:02] How to think about what is, what is the decision versus the alternative. yeah, and this is the Gray area I don't totally understand so look to staff for support, but I think the question for you is, would you support removing. The the collector road underpass from the transit village area plan is that a road connection that you would like to see. That opens up as we've shown a bunch of other discussion items, so I, but I think that was the specific ask of tab, but of course we want to discuss. And we want to support good multimodal connectivity through our project in the area, so I don't know if staff has more input on what the specific asked of tab is but that's what I understand. So i'll address that a little bit further if you don't mind Edward Stafford senior manager of engineering planning development services so danica summaries pretty accurate there they're making a request for a modification.
[73:09] To the connections plan that are part of TV APP, and that is to modify or really to remove that connection of that collector road in the crossing or underpass of the railroad. Alternatives to that of course you could recommend that it remained and that they accommodate that within their site and provide funding towards its construction. which we would then have to evaluate as part of the site review and determine what the impacts would be and what the implications for, but the city and the applicant certainly an option. The opposite into that spectrum is to completely remove any connection like pad or railroad or street sorry through there. and remove that from the plan and then their development would be evaluated based upon site review criteria. For general circulation in the middle could be whether or not there's. Something to remain from multi use path or pedestrian path connection through there which could or could not include a crossing of the railroad.
[74:04] Acknowledging that the information that's been provided through their analysis is that across the railroad is. Like be technically feasible and again would be a challenge in there, but you could potentially have to the path go up to their. Property line and connect into the area that they're looking at a reservation. We do believe that the railroad may have a little bit of concern there about making sure we don't get any people into revenue right away so that's something we would work with the applicant to their site review to address. And turtle sparrow planning and development services and where do you want to talk a little bit just about staffs initial recommendation when we went forward to planning board. Certainly, and we have looked at this and recognizing that some of the more technical analysis didn't happen in the plan staff has been supportive of the applicants request to delete this particular connection. or. Anyone from have any opinions on this.
[75:03] Right. clarifying and a clarifying question, and so I understand that. it's not it's not possible sounds like to do just. Like multi use path, without the road the railroad one permit that Is that correct danica that's what they said and. understanding of reading their requirements so um. And I refer might be here from bsf I saw him, maybe come in so he's the expert on their policies so. Okay, thanks i'm. Sure, I guess, if i'm sorry I missed the name, but if someone from the nsf could speak to that that be really helpful just to confirm if that's the case. yeah I think it's. refer there is. Sure yeah right for being a staff here, Charlie short notice girl, let me in here.
[76:03] yeah we we don't generally allow new at grade crossings, you know our our policy is to to reduce at grade crossings to reduce obviously risk of train on. Train on pet or train on vehicle collisions you know every crossing is a chance for you know more more potential incidences but you know if the city. could identify alternate you know could identify connections that they would would want to get rid of that would increase safety, it could. You know, it could be negotiated for but you know, without without alternates that would close and generally net increase safety would wouldn't be allowed. Thanks and then so that's for the upgrade and then, if it were. An underpass or overpass would it have the same all the same technical challenges that an entire road.
[77:05] Construction here would connection versus a multi use path connection. For danica or build over. Time it's it's a it's a. it's a it's a cost. translate. yeah good not being an engineer, but the overpass would require the same ramping up and down because you have to have the clearance for the railroad tracks and other clearances the underpass possibly would be less deep. Because you wouldn't be driving fire trucks under it I don't know Daniel do you have a more technical answer. short answer is. To do an overpass or another pass it would be upwards of $10 million to execute which is just an extraordinary amount of money for a private. developer to execute such a large.
[78:02] Public improvement project second if you can imagine an overpass being a solace foothills parkway when it crosses the railway imagine the division that we create on both sides it's just very unpleasant. And then third the underpass in order the ramping and champ or copy was off for him from TV, in order to make the ramping work, we would have to seems like extend beyond the curb line and walnut avenue so i'm not sure how that happens. So it seems like a lot of things are working against us to make this happen, and so generally that's that's where our position lies. yeah Thank you and and that enough, the same regardless of whether it were an underpass That was a multiuse path for. For an entire road said okay that's. And Sharon did you want to add anything we do have our civil engineering here who's the expert on the.
[79:02] High back um yeah I can answer it more from a technical standpoint but Daniels correct the the issue isn't the height of or the width of the overpass it's the requirement that the nsf has going over their train track, so the cost and the height is really based on that. If you had a road obviously you're adding more decking but you're still requiring the same amount of length to make it accessible and we can't put a. Non accessible paths in the city of boulder so effectively we're building the same thing it's just narrower. But the height the length all the things that tell us where we actually have to end it on both sides of the property that's what actually doesn't change between the two, to answer your question. And Okay, thank you yeah. I would also like to remind everybody that there's an upgrade connection already within 400 feet of our site and Pearl in in the rail and pro street in the rail so we're not that far from that existing connection already that's safe connection so just wanted to remind everybody that.
[80:10] I have another question that's this is for staff is. are given the other plans from pads in this area are there, looking back at this plan now are those are those all still feasible, is it just this piece, that was not or given this interaction with the railroad and are there other connections that are also. unlikely or path you know paths that couldn't be developed as in the plan, looking back at it at this point. So we have not completed a review of the rest of the plan from a technical feasibility standpoint, in the recent time so really can't answer that fully, other than to say that the one. That runs parallel to the railroad that danica had in her presentation that discussion. That was shown as being within the railroad right away we're also concerned, given the railroad stance on the use of it right away, whether that one can be built in there it's not that that can be built at all it's whether or not that location.
[81:07] is feasible, or will we need to show it on the opposite side on the private properties and how we would acquire those rights to build it. Okay, thank you. I think i'd be okay with. Amending the connections plan to remove this. Particular connection number 62 just given the feasibility with the great changes the cost the railroad the floodplain. I think, having that potential north, south pet by connection up to maybe a multi path along the railway would be a good thing to include. And the overall, this would would help provide access pet bike accept throughout the area and help get people to and from boulder junction help serving as a first last mile connection.
[82:00] This stretch of walnut I think it has about a third of a mile gap in between dedicated pedestrian crossings there's a pedestrian crossing at. Maybe 33rd street and then another one over on the other side of foothills over by kg and you. So if I think a good way to help support the goals of the tmp and improve the connectivity of this area would be to try to introduce a pet crossing in this area, so if there is a Maltese path on the. The West side of the building have that align with a crossing of walnut street would be nice. And then another question, I had and danica would it be possible to pull up that circulation plan. Yes. So I think one best practice with connectivity is is trying to establish a much as much of a grid as possible, and so I was wondering if you guys had considered it looks like this site has a single driveway.
[83:09] Okay sorry. No worries. I think this is what you want to see. Here are the schematic one that also should 38 three with the truck. Oh okay. Sorry. This one. yeah okay. So I was wondering if you would consider located the loan driveway off of walnut street at 38 street, which was at the bottom, you can just kind of barely make it out. Because, then that 38th and walnut would be a little bit more of a four way intersection and I might be a good place to do and always stop, which would help support people walking safely getting across walnut street and help close that that large gap between dedicated extreme crossings.
[84:16] that's something you considered. Oh, right here. yeah. I don't know if we've discussed that. I don't believe that's come up, we were. Charles or Edward I don't think that's come up in our discussions. Now I don't recall it being something that certainly as an applicant team that something you could look at I don't know whether it would meet the requirements for multi way four way stop but. there's not necessarily a code provision that will allow us to mandated there, we can certainly evaluate it. And the issue may be just speaking from the engineering perspective that it is the low point of the site on that side so we're also trying to get great drainage for snow storm and walnut so I could see that creating different hazards not pedestrian directly but icing.
[85:15] and other concerns if we shift too far to the east. But something we can definitely you know confirm. Okay yeah I think it's something we can look at Daniel do you have any comments on that. um no I mean certainly I don't know the technicalities we haven't looked at it. From a development standpoint, it does affect parking. sort of how the side is efficient, with its parking we are adjusting our parking to have a 25% parking reduction. So, this would make a fairly inefficient parking reducing substantially the sort of our Council that's, the only thing that comes into my but more from a development I don't know the particularities of what would happen to that intersection.
[86:03] Okay, thank you, I think it might also impact, how you get that that truck in and out to the. Yes. that's a really good point, because this is a life sciences building deliveries of. are pretty critical. The safe deliveries are pretty critical to the to the operations of the project, so we studied this substantially in fact having the the Multi use path to the north of our side south of the railroad tracks has pushed us the limits of what we can actually do from a delivery standpoint. anything. And I don't know if this is water quality here, I think it is but. But. yeah we're looking at water quality and several points along the site, and I would, I would just say the pedestrian crossings if if that's a necessity to. The and Edward you can speak to this more of a PR code, I think we can accommodate we often try not to have drive access for private line up with public street.
[87:11] Without you know a lot of really intense signage and all that, but we can always accommodate the pedestrian crossing when they're not aligned. To meet whatever requirements are needed so maybe we just keep that in mind as we. continue through process as well. Good. Anything else frame tab. Thanks i'm very risk of being excuse me too much in the weeds here i'm just trying to make sure I and tracking feedback we received from Community cycles and what what. How that tracks with with this, so I think what we've seen we got an email from Community cycles on Saturday tab. which says impart Community cycles strongly poses limiting connection at this location.
[88:03] However, we have seen update plans which indicate the applicant will ask for an amendment to the T that connection plans connections plan. To change the streets and will tell us path we would support such an amendment, then there's a little bit more detail. And then it perfectly acceptable alternative to an underpass to be an upgrade signal lies multi youth multi use path crossing of the tracks with quiet zone in infrastructure. it's may be cheaper, so I think that was what was reflected from the team to say no that's that's not going to work that's just prohibitive. So do I have that right that that's what Community cycle, said that the proposal here is to say, well, sorry that's unfortunately cannot accommodate that that correct. Or, more or less correct. Oh yeah I trail upgrade crossing isn't feasible or I you know we even looked at, you know, putting stubbing out a crossing but that also has challenges, because you're driving people.
[89:01] To a railroad tracks without a crossing, and that has implications from a safety perspective there's another location in town without a crossing where people are riding their bikes and. I mean I don't know anyone that's done that but um. You know you you hook your bike over the railroad tracks to continue on, and so we don't want to create that situation where we know we can't get across it so we were looking more. At this north, south connectivity and then, how do we create circulation within our site, so that people there's more. And this is gets into the site review criteria of how do we provide permeability and connectivity, but no providing an accurate. multimodal path seems impossible, both because we'd have to give up another accurate crossing somewhere else, and a road would have to accompany that trail and that's how I read the the nsf they'll allow a trail if a road is built, alongside it. Okay okay thanks for clarifying that's what I thought I just just my comment is this is a tough one, because we have.
[90:05] Community cycles knows this space pretty well saying this is this isn't doesn't work for them and the consultants saying well this and staff, I suppose, saying this is, you know this is. The way it looks to them, so my thought would be you know there's anything that the proposal and the consulting can do to I don't know provide some mitigation maybe that's not the right word some. Additional measures to support with our mode shifting goals and making the streets, safer and easier for cyclists pedestrians I should be happy to see that. But that's that's all I have, for now, thank you. Ryan, do you have anything in mind as to what kind of support. Well i'm not sure i'm the closest to this on either of the sides I just I just you know what I have a little bit of heartburn with Community you know hearing just sort of a bit like a no to.
[91:00] Do our main you know bicycle. Safety answering. To be nice if there was some kind of some kind of give back I don't know what that is I really don't know if that'll be good. No, no, I appreciate that from our standpoint, we really wanted this connection to work because the work and activity for us, the better. Multiple ways, but it was just technically feasible and you know we've heard a lot of clip from from being a Stephen and their guidelines that they don't allow these great connections for all the reasons i'm not going to regurgitate. On the other hand, we are making a we are acknowledging the fact that there's going to there isn't the tmp plan. To use fat being plan that's going to go all along the rail and connecting to each folder. So we are supporting that and we are basically reserving and potentially building that that path, if that's what's necessary for us to do. likely, and I think I heard this from from Edward is in order for that trail to happen along the.
[92:03] The the rail, they would have to actually buy all the property to connect it all the way through these folders so I don't know what the likelihood of, that is, but in preparation for that and in support of that. we'd be happy to reserve it and build it, if necessary, if that's what you guys want us to do. Thanks Daniel. Thanks any more tab support or opposition to amending the tea bag connections plan. But there's one follow up question on that which is if I realized, it would take a lot, unfortunately this this multi use path on the railroad to be built adjacent to it but. If they were there, I saw on either side of the building as a pedestrian path and then there's the main road into the parking lot so would somebody trying to access that multis path, what would, how would they be expected to get there from walnut street. If they could wipe their pedestrian make use of history and path, but if they're on a bike would they be allowed on that path, or is it would it be only for pedestrians with the expected Could they not cross on the property at all to get to that path from walnut.
[93:13] i'm. Shannon and Tony or I don't know that there are some some challenges with that location and given a reservation. We understand that excel that's the easement that excel needs in order to provide bound to the building. Particular along that side that's, not to say that we could consider it if that's something that you guys feel pretty strongly about. Certainly, we could consider a multi use path to connect to that portion of the of the site or create a reservation for the moment that gets built. Because, certainly, I would not like to spend that much money on something that might never happen in Korea connection that might not ever happen so be certainly be open to provide a reservation to create that connection.
[94:05] And before. Before I say that. I just want to make sure i'm not speaking on a term, so I would like the architects in in in jvm to tell us that even possible. Sharon, we might have you feel this one in terms of with over there. yeah we shifted the building enough backing, so that, because there is some nebulous around what we will see through site review we want to make sure that we can account for things that may come up. There are a couple options on the West side, where we could use and share space with excel and utilities is, as you were mentioning Daniel, so I think it's more a question. I would hate to see concrete surround the entire site to provide multiuse path into. A rectangle around the entire big you around the whole site, because we can't get a true connective path from others. But I think we're we're prepped, at least on the west and north side for the possibility of needing to provide a multi multi use path.
[95:06] In the event that there's problems it's just something i'd prefer to seize reservation, not a design or construct because it's a lot of carbon footprint for concrete that ultimately might not be you know complete, so I think it's really. Well, last year that critical moment. I wish I should. finish your sentence it's really important that we look at it during site review, I think the so we have allowed for that and the reservation would be split on both properties and so you know it could be built in the future, but. You got it. It also is it's at the expense of like I mentioned driving people to railroad tracks that they can't cross and also landscaping and other things, so I think we want to balance all of that out and provide really good circulation. Through the through the site review process, but we did I can bring it the screen backup, but we did move the building a to allow for that future possibility.
[96:08] Thanks dude i'm sorry if I broke out there at the ads good say. Thanks yeah I appreciate the insight. Thanks anything else from top. If not, thank you to staff and the this large team of consultants. Think, we learned a lot before Friday something useful for you as well. yeah We appreciate your time like I said, this is a new thing for many of us so but I do think it's an important step in the process to get your feedback early on, before we start like we said before we start landing buildings and other important things, so we really appreciate it. Thank you. Next up, we have agenda items seven which was just an information item so so no presentation about an update on excel energy streetlight led conversion did anyone on tab have any pressing thoughts or questions about that.
[97:10] If not we'll look forward to seeing how that public process turns out in the months to come, and that brings us to matters first from staff. Think. Nathan, is with us. Yes, good evening. Well, good evening members of tab I just have a couple of slides and i'm here to give you a. brief update on a project, my name is Nathan Pope i'm a senior transportation planner and how many of you. brief progress update on the status of the State highway seven East arapahoe road multi use path and transit stop project. As many of you know, this project is the first step and implementing the vision for the East arapaho transportation plan.
[98:03] This specific project fills in missing links along the Multi use path system and enhances bus stops along arapahoe avenue between 38th and marine streets and down to charitable road. will share this project with you in September 2021 for a public hearing on the Community environmental assessment process or seep which has since been approved. So a little background, just to make sure we're all on the same page the city, adopted the East arapaho transportation plan in 2018. And the plan sets out a long range vision to create a regional multimodal quarter along state highway seven Easter apo with high quality. and high frequency bus rapid transit original bike way multi use paths and first and final mile supportive infrastructure. The elements of the East arapaho transportation plan are intended to be phased incrementally this project will advance the near term action. Action items at the East arapaho transportation plan by addressing existing deficiencies, such as missing segments of the Multi use path.
[99:01] Upgrading narrow sidewalks to city of boulder standard multi use path wits with and upgrading transit stops that lack infrastructure such as trash receptacles benches and shelters. In 2019 this is able to apply for and receive federal funding for this project, which has a total budget of 1.9 million and is composed of federal and city transportation funds. You remember that the preferred design option prioritises the cross the desire to cross section of a 12 foot multi use path and an eight foot landscape buffer where where can be accommodated within the existing public right away. In little limited segments of the quarter the Multi use path narrows to 10 feet in width and the buffer with various between two to eight feet to maximize improvements within the existing public right away. Since since the project was presented for public hearing of the seat, six months ago staff of work to incorporate comments we heard from 10 members. This includes focusing our limited resources on segments of the multiuse path that have the most need and not reconstructing usable path segments.
[100:05] were possible, the design now keeps the existing path and add color concrete to achieve the desired section, allowing us to stretch your dollars further. staff have also work to ensure that the design accommodates all future Easter apo transportation plan projects, to the extent possible. The team is finalizing the design and preparing to go to bed on the project, the project is currently slated to begin construction in spring or summer of 2023 pending underground of the of the overhead utilities by XL. As the team finalizes finalizing the design we're happy to hear any additional comments and questions from tab and that's that's the end of my update Thank you so much for your time and we're happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thanks Nathan, I think one thing we discussed a while back was if it was nice i'm glad to hear that there are some segments that are going to be preserved because they're deemed usable.
[101:01] There are some discussion a while back about if there's a need right now to extend the Maltese path. On the south side of arapaho as it goes, East towards the golf course because, once you reach the golf course there's not more multiuse path and so it'd be upgrading a sidewalk to them will taste path D is that something that's included or not included in the scope of this. i'm going to hand off to Brian butcher who's the project manager and can answer that on that specific question, Brian do you have a answer on that part that exact segment. yeah thanks Nathan by Alex good question so we be not reconstruct he says. We do infill some of the combo to make it a little bit more of a usable sidewalk but we've not reconstruct or widen the path. So much to each we do have a transit stuff on that South side to try to accommodate so we want to make sure that we can accommodate that but no, we did not reconstruct all the way to the golf course okay.
[102:09] thanks for that clarification. I think on this roadway when the bus he missed the bus is when they when they are stopping they're typically going to be. stopping at the street level and then we're going to have them will tell us path and so that we want In most places have a conflict between buses that are pulling over to pick people up. And people who might be traveling on bike, with the exception of the stop at the golf course there's no sidewalk or Maltese path there and then similarly there's a. This isn't a these bad directions, have you found that the golf course there's no sidewalk or Maltese path and so it's possible that the bus will be pulling over and kind of blocking the path of the cyclists. And then similarly at eastbound at hotel road there's again a possibility of a bus blocking the path of a cyclist does the design include something like a floating bus stop or something that would prevent a bus from stopping and the bike way like they do today.
[103:15] Are you referring to the STOP in front of the golf course on kind of the south side there. yeah the two South side he's them stops the the one at the golf course and then the one hotel road. The one the golf course we are not currently doing anything with that was kind of outside the limits of our project, the other eastbound stop at old tail which are referring to. We are making a kind of dedicated connection with the bus can pull over, but it would have to pull over to the. Side stop to to get to that point. So, in both cases at the bus stopping would probably book The path of a cyclist.
[104:00] you're talking about a cyclist on the street. yeah because there's no sidewalk or or multi scaffolding the golf course. Correct yes. Okay, if possible, and Bush allows some sort of simple floating bus stop at those locations, I think, would help ensure that people can feel safe getting across this stretch that that doesn't provide as much infrastructure as the rest of the quarter. yeah. definitely take a look at that. Thanks. Any other questions or feedback from tab. Okay, thanks Jason. Thank you. It looks like Chris hogan's here for curbside management update on pilot projects, yes. Good evening tap Chris Hagan principal planner Let me share my screen, I am also joined by Alison Moore Feral our senior transportation planner and helping with the curbside management project and leading the pilot project phase of that which is what we'll be talking about today.
[105:35] Seeing the presentation correctly. All right, thank you so once again we're we're pleased to come to you tonight to give you an update on curbside management and specifically kind of where we are in looking at the design. and implementation of pilot projects for this so just kind of what we wanted to share with you tonight is just again since we do have some new tab members.
[106:01] or newish I would say, we wanted to give a brief overview of the curbside management project, and then we want to get into some of the pilot project concepts that we're working on and then any discussion input from tab would be helpful, and then we can share our next steps as well. So why manage the curb you know the curve, is a very important resource it's a public resource, with a growing number of competing. demands, especially new demands, most recently, and it is a limited supply, so we need to figure out how we want to best organize and manage that curb the curve is really the front door to a number of destinations. For our residents and employees and visitors and it's a important location for that connection between transportation options. what's really interesting as we've been talking to our university hill Commission and our downtown Commission is. is really the the fact that commerce is changing how people conduct business how they receive goods and services is changing and a lot of that is happening at the curb.
[107:09] we've seen tremendous growth of transportation network companies such as uber and lyft with increased online shopping we've seen a. tremendous increase in package delivery ups Amazon fedex all those and we're also seeing a lot of the food delivery services such as store dash so. The way in which commerce is happening is changing and and we need to adapt to that on how we manage the curb to best promote that efficiency of commerce, but also look at safety as well and we're going to use this tool to help also of course work towards our Community goals. The curbside is used for a huge variety of purposes, you know historically vehicle storage and short term parking is probably one of the main ones can.
[108:02] still be able to see in our existing conditions report that will be coming out, but there is a variety of other ways, most of curve is used. related for micro mobility or electric vehicle charging and a lot of it is related to freight and loading zones and how these are used and and, once again, like the TMC pickup and drop off. Ada access so there's a variety of demands placed on the curb, and so this project is really looking at developing a set of policies and then an implementation guidebook to help. city staff guide how we use the curve and how we respond to any request for changes on how the curve is designated as well. Just a brief update on kind of what happened so far, since we last updated tab we have published our best practices report that's been published online and on the access allies websites. were right in the process of finalizing the existing conditions report all the staff feedback has.
[109:03] been given we're just going to have our consultants update it and then we're going to pass it on to leadership for the final review so that hopefully will be done fairly soon. And, and then we've been really working on the pilot projects we've been doing a lot of outreach. To boards and commissions on getting some ideas and input, for you know what are the needs, what are the opportunities, what are the limitations for how we adjust how the curve is is used in in the downtown in the university hill specifically. Just last week we met with you can't see which is the university hill commission to discuss these pilot pilot projects and university Hill and had a great amount of feedback. After this meeting tonight tomorrow night we're going to the downtown management permission to do the same types of things. And so, with that i'll turn it over to allison who is leading our efforts on the pilot projects.
[110:02] Great Thank you Chris for that introduction so as we're identifying the pilot projects locations and really getting into the specifics i'll go over what we're looking at for the. Different pilot categories so First, we have the transportation network company staging area, so your uber and lyft and looking at pickup and dropoff zones. For uber and lyft and we identified some issues and opportunities here, and primarily regarding unsafe movements in the travel lane, and we noticed this on your observations. As well as data collection that we've done in the in the three commercial districts that were studying. And these pilot projects were looking like Chris mentioned in the downtown university hill district other kind of. issues with transportation network companies that we've noticed is cruising find passengers, which is increasing bmt and JC emissions in our commercial districts so looking at some.
[111:07] Using these pilots has opportunities to address those with staging areas and will show a map of the areas were considering for that and kind of looking at the different circulation within these areas that would be most appropriate for TMC staging areas. Another pilot category that we're digging into is flexible loading zones, and this is going to address a lot more of the delivery concerns. As we've noticed in the past few years deliveries have increased with not only more traditional deliveries like ups and Amazon but we're having uber eats a lot of these. dynamic companies that are coming in and utilizing these zones so we're looking at really streamlining these zones, so that it's. A lot more simplified and easy to use for each of the users and then looking at how that will increase safety in these loading, unloading zones for all users.
[112:02] and reducing collisions and conflicts in those zones, as well as traffic delay and congestion and really trying to understand that behavior better so that we can adapt. As we move forward so recognizing that this is a really dynamic space on the curb and figuring out how we can respond best to that and be flexible in that moving forward so. that's what we're looking at with these two different pilot idea categories and like Chris mentioned we're looking in the downtown and university hill area. which will will look at maps on the next few slides and the timeframe we're looking for is a three to four month pilot time frame so we're looking at starting in late August and going through November or December so Chris have you can move forward to the maps. So, here are some of the locations we're looking at for the university hope pilot projects and like Chris mentioned, we went to the.
[113:01] University Health Commission last week and spoke with them about these locations and. and see you a chair that lot 65 would would not be appropriate spot, but we discussed with the Commission, a couple other locations that could work for. TMC staging so we're looking at kind of some circulation issues with with those locations and then working with uber and lyft to look at the feasibility of that so. recognizing that this is a location that that uses a lot of tn fees and then along 13th street and a little bit along college you'll see right there is where we're looking at for the flexible loading zones. And it's no it's important to note here it's not taking away parking on the street, this is this is reimagining some of the existing loading zones that. That have different amounts of time and kind of different direction and that sort of thing so we're we're looking at making them more flexible, but not taking away parking on this specific.
[114:01] The specific spot. And then next up, we have some locations in downtown against still kind of narrowing down exactly where but. kind of a similar idea of recognizing where T and c's are most prevalent and looking at appropriate circulation in the downtown area based on that and. You know, looking at the origin and destination of those TMC and figuring out how we can best meet the needs of. of users for that and then looking at those flexible loading zones as well, where it's most appropriate. In the downtown district So these are the locations that we're looking at and and really what we would really appreciate from you is asking any you know clarifying questions from the. From the concepts of these pilot ideas again we're still narrowing down exactly. The locations and we may kind of combine some of them or or reduce a few of those and if if they're not making sense for the concepts, but.
[115:04] If you have any clarifying questions about those those two primary concepts of the TMC staging and the flexible loading zones we'd be happy to clarify as we're moving forward with the design of those pilot projects. And here are just some of the locations listed. for clarification. And the end. Okay, go ahead. I was going to open up for discussion. Thank you for this this overview I think these are interesting concepts to explore seeing this just for the first time, right now, no, no immediate feedback from me on the specific locations. But it will be interesting to see how it performs and especially as a user seeing what it's like with the pickup and drop off, I look forward to experiencing that.
[116:01] Certainly i'm will share with you, you know when it is kicked off so so we'd love your feedback as a user of the space, and I know it's a lot of locations to kind of. You know process right now on the spot, but again, if you have any questions about the concept and as a whole for the pilots that's also helpful yeah. Anyone have anything. If not we'll just wait to check it out. I just got a just run run by some of the next steps before we finish up, so we do have the existing conditions report that's in the final process of review this looks at. Our three general areas of boulder junction uni Hill and cages, and this will how we're currently using the curbside So this report will be out soon and we'll we'll pass this on. As allison said for the pilot project what we're what we're really doing is right now we're just kind of in the process of identifying what and where.
[117:06] Soon we'll start on the actual design of how these flexible loading zones and TMC staging areas work will develop in an engagement plan and communication plan. there's a lot of players involved we've got to talk to property owners we've got to talk to. The delivery providers the tn sees to really have them integrated into this pilot project, so we can learn from them and see what they need and respond. As I mentioned we're going to the DM see tomorrow next week, we have our check in with the access allies, where. We have tab Members on that access allies will dive a little deeper into the actual pilot areas that we're looking at and kind of what we're thinking. Then we will we have a information, information item don't and a Council just to alert them and keep them in the know that pilot projects are being designed and they will be implemented.
[118:09] And you know we never want to catch them unaware, so there will be provided an update, we are looking at the implementation of these pilot projects, probably in late August. There will be some baseline data collection, that will take place before implementation as well, so we'll be doing that and we can certainly return to tab. In in August, or in September, depending on where we are in that process, to give you a real final update on on what we're going to be implementing in terms of the pilot project but also how we're going to evaluate their effectiveness as well. And that's our update. Thanks Chris. All right. Anything else from tab. Have a good night.
[119:08] natalie do you buy rebate program update. I do. So Alex it just asked me to give an update from Council, we had a discussion, I guess, a couple weeks ago now, with Council about potentially doing an e bike rebate program pilot this year I think most of you kind of have the background on where the idea came from and whatnot. Also, the Council decided, you know, given that it would have taken some staff resources, and we would have needed to ship things to accommodate that this year they decided not to pursue an auto five to. amend our work plan and 2022 we are doing some legwork this year, just to be able to potentially go after something in 2023 a I noted and.
[120:01] If you guys have more questions valerie's here, and you can speak to us as well. But there's some state funding that's going to be available later this year and so will certainly be looking to pursue that and that will set us up nicely, to be able to. Hopefully initiate a program in 2023 so we're certainly thinking about it and we're will be getting into work planning for 2023 here soon in the next couple months and that will be a part of those discussions. exactly know Brian You helped kick this off case what you have. To thanks yeah thanks Alex excuse me thank you natalie um I don't have anything else to say other than the now I could just try a kind of a message on the implications and then you could help correct me. I think that. First of all, people should go by you bikes now there's no don't wait don't wait because there's no there's no program and and so and we you know.
[121:01] I will continue to you know pursue and try to support that anything I can such that the city would would, in the future, have you back incentive Program. But we there's no reason as a as a consumer, as a buyer right now to think Oh, this is like around the corner, because you know you would it would need to go through process again, and you know folks will know about that so. Please don't don't wait if you're thinking on on getting anybody. Right. Nothing certain so. don't wait yeah. Thanks Ryan anything else from today. I think Danny might have a zero fer fer better error update for TD. yeah. yeah Thank you. So. Good evening again tab Danny o'connor principal transportation planner transit program manager just wanted to take a moment to give you a quick.
[122:02] update related to a transit announcement so for during the entire month of August rtb will offer zero fares across the system as part of its zero fair for better air initiative. This initiative is made possible but Colorado senate bill. In partnership with the Colorado energy office and is designed to reduce ground level ozone by increasing use of public transit. So current RTE customers will also benefit, as they will not have to use or purchase fair products throughout all of August to ride and zero fare will also apply to the city's hops service all throughout August. So, in just as some context, as many of you may be aware, between 19 tmp really recommends that zero fair transit service, so this is a strategy it's specifically called out as.
[123:01] You know, a strategy to enhance the equity and as well to reduce gh geez through bolstering ridership, so we are very excited to see this initiative take flight and hopefully lead to expand the conversations and offerings for zero fair in the future. The city's communications team is working to prepare messaging on this there's a whole host of messaging that our TV has set up and it's all going to go out kind of in a public campaign starting July 15th and our city comms will be. awesome augmenting that and working through those channels as well out in the Community really to to push this. So, really, I mean just to give more of a plug if you haven't been on transit lately August, will be a great and easy time to use local and regional. transit for for any of your trips and really kind of get a first hand experience of how the system is functioning and how it has changed, especially after the service and ridership impacts of coven.
[124:09] August is also one of those months, where we really see ridership grow as students return to school more Community activities occur and, as mentioned, this is one of our big ozone months as far as the region. So keep an eye out for that anything you can do to help promote. August zero fair we'd appreciate and then please stay tuned his staff is planning some additional activities. In the in the upcoming months for tab in the Community, that will build upon the zero fair aug to further highlight and discuss transit initiatives in the Community. I heard interest earlier in electrification I think that's that's obviously one topic we'd love to further discuss coming up, so thank you so much, and happy to entertain any questions.
[125:01] Thanks Danny I hadn't heard about this, this is a great program and welcome news when others are talking about things like gas tax holidays, hopefully. As a more sustainable solution and I feel it to hopefully get some people some exposure to transit and might create some some new writers, even after the end of August. yeah. And you know I think what will be interesting to just as a plug is you know our TD is you know will be actively really tracking kind of some of the trends that are occurring. With zero fair so that'll that'll be good and it's it's looking back at previous months it's looking back at previous August, you know and granted cove it's been a major disrupter for for transit. But, really, you know as the fall semester comes and, as you know, a lot of kind of another return to work is opening up you know we're really interested to see what will happen this august and it's also program for next August, according to this on the bill.
[126:04] anything from tab. Thanks Danny thanks. natalie, are there any other. Matters from stuff. Though. Right matters from the board our first tweet retreat we didn't quite get to top priorities and a real tab retreat, so I think we have a second part coming soon meredith the of the day, for that. Tuesday August nine from 230 to 5pm. Is that still work for all 10 members that are here tonight. awesome. All a challenge natalie and we'll figure out what the agenda is going to be, and hopefully we can share that with everyone in advance of the retreat. yeah I will just say I talk to Heidi today and I told her that we'd be reaching out once we confirm the date tonight we'd be reaching out to organize the agenda.
[127:10] sounds good. Any open board common. Know awesome. Any any future agenda topics that aren't on here the. Ticket on our radar as we, as we work on our scheduling on the colored ones. i'll just say the for the August, meaning, we are still working on the police department I down provisions zero so. I believe that we'll get at it, but. We just have that morning internal work to confirm. Okay. Thanks. No one has anything else so entertain a motion to adjourn.
[128:04] Exactly got it. i'll second that all those in favor. Thanks everyone. Thanks good night.