August 11, 2025 — Police Oversight Panel Regular Meeting

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[0:03] [Music] All right, welcome everybody. Uh, we'll officially call this meeting to order. Welcome to the August 2025 fall panel meeting. Um, we'll start as always with our land acknowledgement. We acknowledge the Arapjo Ute and Cheyenne tribes, the traditional custodians of the land on which the Police Oversight Panel and Boulder Police Department operate, and pay our respects to their elders, past and present. I want to welcome everyone to this meeting. Panel members, thank you all for being here. Uh members of the public, any media we may have joining us, and of course our Boulder staff. Thanks for being here, everybody. um want to give some polite reminders of our agreed upon meeting expectations. Everyone try to keep your uh cameras on for the majority of the meeting. Totally fine to pop off for a few minutes here and there, but we want to make sure

[1:00] everyone is on camera, especially when we are voting. Um so we'll keep those on, please. Uh for any members of the public, you are welcome to use the Q&A during the meeting for small questions. If you have bigger questions or comments, please pause for uh our public comment. We'll do that about halfway through the meeting. It tends to be 30 p.m. So, we will have time for everyone in attendance to make public comment at that time. Uh you can also email us, contact us anytime at our o full panel email address. You can email us at uh police oversight panel bouldercol.gov. You can also visit our website to find out more information or to submit a complaint. Um that's bouldercol.govservices/ police oversight. Um and we'd love to hear from you. Please reach out anytime. Uh all of our meetings are recorded. You can see this meeting and all of our past

[2:00] meetings online anytime also posted to our website. Um and with that, I will kick it over to Sher or Selena for a roll call. Thanks, Lizzy. Um, Curtis looks to be absent uh with notification in advance. Uh, Chico, >> I'm here. >> Um, Bill is currently absent, but he might be popping in. Allan >> um AB >> appears to be absent. Turner >> here. >> Uh Solidad >> here. >> Milen >> here. Lizzy >> here. Um >> Kristen also appears to be absent. Um Jason

[3:01] [Music] here >> and that is seven. So y'all have quorum. >> All right. Thank you Sherry. Um so with that we will go to a brief look at our agenda for tonight. Believe you guys should be able to see this. Um we will start with our usual discussion of the minutes and we'll have a chance to approve those. We'll go into 20 minutes for an update on community outreach and engagement. Um we have a few items today. Uh some event updates and we'll also go into a brief discussion of event planning. Uh we'll have our IPM report. Uh our panel updates and ad hoc items tonight will be some discussion about a recent fatal incident uh with CUPD and uh AMR paramedics. Uh Sherry will give us some information about that. Uh we'll talk through ride along reminders and an

[4:01] update on legal training. Uh then we'll go to public comment again hopefully 30 p.m. Uh we'll go into our potentially closed session if folks want to uh opt into that. Then we'll get to regular business, our case review, voting, case assignment status, and uh assignment of new cases before 30. Um, if anyone has items they would like to propose adding to the minutes, we can take those suggestions now. Or if anyone would like, we can vote to approve the minutes. Do we have any suggestions or a motion to approve? >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of July >> or I'm sorry, the the agenda. Approve the >> or the agenda. Sorry. >> Thank you, Alan. I think I started it. Do we have a second? I will second. >> Great. All right. All in favor of approving the agenda.

[5:04] >> All right. Any opposed? Fabulous. All right. Our agenda is approved. With that, we will go over to potentially approving the minutes. Do we have any edits uh or suggestions of changes to the minutes or do we have a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve. >> We have a second. >> I'll second. >> Great. Um, all in favor of approving the minutes. All right. Any opposed? All right. Our minutes are approved. Um, with that, we'll get into our first agenda item, starting with Well, we're going to have a community outreach and engagement update. We had Bill slotted in for this. I know he had kind of a last minute urgent situation. Did he has

[6:03] he ended up joining by chance? I know he was going to try to drop in. Okay. Well, Sherry, I know. Do you want have any of these update update items? We could start with those or we could sort of table this to later in the agenda. in the hopes that he might be able to pop in. Or a third option, one of our other community engagement and outreach committee members could give our update. >> There's several options if you want. >> That would be great. >> Thank you. >> Or items, not options. Um so next Thursday which is August 21st there the B the police oversight panel members are invited to join the community connectors and residents. This is something that Bill has been um arranging and the community connectors and residents are people who um have a role with the city um based on their

[7:01] involvement in different communities within Boulder. So, this is an opportunity to meet some people who might be able to help us um share the word about the what the police oversight panel does and more importantly help connect us uh with some of the communities that the panel is hoping to reach. So, this should be an invitation that is on all of your calendars. Um so, if you can please accept or or decline, I'm sure that would be appreciated by the people who are putting this together. Um but hopefully we will be able to see lots of faces. um in person uh next Thursday. Um any questions about that? Okay. Um I've shared with you my hopes that um we would be able to be at some tableabling events at CU since it is expected that we are going to have at least one um open student panel member

[8:00] for the next year. Um, so there were two that were that I told people about on August 27th and August 26th. Um, because we don't fit in uh perfectly with what they're looking for. Um, we are on the wait list, but I will definitely let people know if we find out that there is a spot on either of those days um to be able to table. Um Curtis had shared that there is a Nuropa tableabling event on September 3rd um when students are coming back. Uh so the expectation is that he and he inquired about reaching out to Luna to see if they could join also which I thought was a great idea. Um so he's not here right now to share more information about that but that's what that's what that event is on September 3rd. Um we also to just recently um Jeremy Moore, he's the dean at Nuropa. He followed up with some inquiries um

[9:01] about u him wanting to know more about the panel and um maybe have some collaboration with the panel and uh BPD. So um there's a hope that we continue that conversation uh with Nuropa and build some relationship build stronger relationships with that with that entity. Um and then on September 7th is the what's up Boulder. This is an annual event. This year it takes place at Scott Carpenter Park and it is basically where a lot of city departments um have have tables to share the work that they're doing and be able to um communicate and engage with community members. Um it's expected that about 400 community members are going to attend this year. And I'm looking to see uh I think Melen and Lizzy were the two people who are

[10:02] present in this meeting who were able to attend last year. Um Lizzy, can we borrow your tent? >> Oh yes, I mean to get back to you about that. Definitely available. >> Okay, we'll arrange for a time for a pickup drop off. Um thank you so much. that will be very helpful because the sun is hot. Um um so and I shared with the engagement committee that there was a request, a really smart request from someone who asked if we could be on like a bingo card scavenger hunt type of things where it made people have to find the table. So I was able to reach out and get us on that this year. So there were there are going to be people seeking the table out. Um so it's an event where again a lot of people come and it'll give us some opportunity to talk with people who might have very little or no information about um the police oversight panel and oversight of the Boulder Police

[11:01] Department in general. And I believe you all should have a calendar uh invite for that date also. >> All right. I'll just add for any folks who are interested and thinking about going, it's a very low-key, casual, informal opportunity. So, it's like a great entry into community engagement for the panel. Go ahead, Jerry. >> I just remembered an important detail. So, last year the the judge of the municipal court was in the dunk tank. He was actually right across from us. My daughter dunked him twice. Um, and I had made a suggestion that maybe Red Fern should be in the dunk tape. And when I saw some public announcements about uh what's up Boulder, it says Chief Judge and Red Fern. So, just letting you know.

[12:01] Great. All right. Well, thank you, Sher. Um, for our last item, I apologize. I had completely forgotten that Bill submitted some notes for us to read for to give on his behalf for the final um item on our agenda. So, thank you Solidad for reminding me of that. Um would you be up for giving those reading those comments for us? >> Sure. Can you hear me? Okay. >> Yep. >> Yep. Okay, cool. Uh so from Bill, um I'm going to be looking to this side where the screen is. Uh, a personal issue. Hi everyone. A personal personal issue came up and I'll be in transit in an airplane during our meeting. I'll try to hop on Zoom if I can and if that works out, I'll have to give my camera and sound off since I'll be on a on a plane. Uh, I can't participate with chat. Um, I wanted to give you all a quick update on a recent community engagement meeting and then invite those who were there to

[13:01] jump in and add anything I missed. Uh first a big thank you to everyone for the great conversation, the openness and the willingness to dig into some important topics. One of the main decisions we made uh was that we are not going to create a formal process for community engagement work on the panel right now. Instead, we agreed to put together a proposal template that anyone on the panel can use if they have an idea for an event the panel might support or if we want to participate in someone else's event like tableabling and talking about how to engage with the panel or file a complaint. I'll be drafting that template next week and sharing it with you all. It will include details like who the contact person is, what the event is, when is when it is happening, what's needed, and whether there's a budget. We also had a pretty in-depth discussion about the panel budget. We agreed to ask our co-chairs to add the budget conversation to a

[14:01] future full panel meeting agenda. There's interest in knowing if we have a specific budget for community engagement, how to access it, and what the process is for getting any extra resources we might need. Selena also offered to help us track down the budget for the independent police monitor, which uh is where our engagement funds come from. We already use that budget for things like food and retreats. So, having clarity will help us plan for events that might require more than just snacks. Um, that's the gist of our discussion. We didn't really get to upcoming engagement activities. So, I'd like to ask Curtis to share uh the one he's involved with and Sherry to share uh any she's aware of as well, which we already did. And of course, if uh anyone who has who was at the meeting wants to fill in the blanks or add something I missed, please jump in. Thanks everyone.

[15:00] Thanks a lot, Dad. All right. Does anyone have anything to add? Anyone who's in the meeting want to add any comments or thoughts? Bill also just texted me and he said he's available live for questions via chat. So, if you have any questions for Bill, I can text them to him. He's happy to participate. All right, everyone feeling good about that plan? Kind of a streamlined template option to facilitate without too much added process. Great. All right. Any other community outreach and engagement items? We have a little time before we go over to our IPM report. All right, hearing none, I will pass it over back to Sherry. Thanks.

[16:26] Apologies, I was muted. Um, can people see me? Can people see the the screen? Okay, thank you. Okay. The August 2025 Boulder Police Oversight Panel um independent police monitors report So looking at the case file review data

[17:00] for July 2025, there were two full case file reviews completed. Um and we are still waiting for BPD disposition on those two cases and currently um there are 10 cases awaiting panel review. um one of them MI2024-065 we are in the process of scheduling we're going to look at the cases that have been completed since July 1st 2025 SM2024-00002 has been closed MI2024-84 at the request of a business officers were clearing people sleeping outside the business under posted no trespassing signs. Officers one and two contacted multiple people including complainant and requested they pack up and leave the area and provide their names and or identification. The officers contacted

[18:02] complainant when he was completely covered and his physical features including his race were obscured from the officers. During this contact, complainant vacasillated between providing and revoking consent for officer 2 to obtain complainant's wallet and ID from within his other belongings. Officer 2 did not inform complainant of his right to refuse the search. Complainant also alleged that unknown officers were tracking him through his phone, but did not provide details about that. Allegation Officer one, rule one, compliance with values, rules, and general orders. General Order 100, unbiased policing, profiled complainant based on his race. The monitor recommended that this allegation be unfounded and the department agreed. And officer one, rule five, police authority and public trust, detained the complainant. I recommended that this allegation be exonerated and the department agreed. Um, officer two, rule one, compliance

[19:01] with values, rules and general orders. General Order 100 unbiased policing profile complainant based on his race. The monitor recommended that this be unfounded and the department agreed with the unfounded recommendation and a rule five allegation police authority and public trust detained complainant. I recommended that this allegation be exonerated and the department agreed. And also for officer 2, rule five, police authority and public trust search complainants possessions. Um, I recommended that this allegation be sustained with verbal counseling and the department agreed on that recommendation and agreed to provide verbal counseling to the officer. For the unknown officers, rule five, police authority and public trust followed and/or tracking complaining complainant through his phone. I recommended that against unknown officers, this allegation be unfounded and the department agreed. MI2025-021.

[20:02] A police officer from a different jurisdiction wanted BPD to charge his ex-girlfriend with stalking and/or harassment. Ex-girlfriend posted information about him on social media sites including are we dating the same guy and communicated with his current girlfriends and ex-wife. He also reported receiving multiple multiple calls from ex-girlfriend during obscene hours of the morning. BPD conducted an investigation that included speaking with ex-girlfriend and a recent girlfriend. Ex-girlfriend explained that she called him in the early morning hours because he works midnights and that is when he is awake. She admitted posting truthful information about him on social media and reaching out to his former and current partners as protected first amendment activities. Detective Juan collaborated with both his sergeant and the BPD legal adviser to reach the decision to not charge the ex-girlfriend. Allegations against detective 1, rule

[21:01] one, compliance with values, rules, and general orders, general order 203, investigative responsibility and case assignments, failed to conduct a sufficient investigation. I recommended that this allegation be unfounded and the department agreed. MI2025-022. Officer 1 responded to a complaint that a vehicle had been parked on a residential street for the past two weeks. When officer 1 contacted the vehicle, complainant was inside the back of the vehicle. Complainant described officer 1 as escalating and banging violently on his vehicle, harassing and pushing his chest close to his. Officer 1's bodywn camera refuted this description, but captured Officer 1 and the complainant talking over each other. Officer one told complainant that if he did not move his vehicle in an hour that it would be towed. Um the allegation against officer one was a rule four respect for others was unprofessional andor inappropriate towards complainant. I recommended that

[22:01] this allegation be not sustained and the department agreed. MI2025-025 has been closed. MI2025-026. Officer one responded to a park after two individuals called 911 on each other. The initial dispute began when a woman complained that complainant was idling his vehicle. When officer one arrived, complainant was no longer present and he spoke with woman. Officer one called complainant twice but then did not respond to a voicemail complaintant later left for him. And this the allegation against officer one was rule one compliance with values rules and general orders customer service value did not return a community member's voicemail. I recommended that this allegation be administratively closed with a coaching recommendation and the department agreed with that recommendation.

[23:02] MI2025-027 officers observed a car veering as it passed protesters and noted that the drivers seemed to be engaging negatively with the protesters while driving behind him. The officers confirmed their understanding that Driver had the right to argue or disagree with the protesters. The evidence established that the officers followed behind Driver because of his driving, including swerving near protesters and swerving within his lane. Officers issued Driver a summon for careless driving. Driver did not cooperate with PSU's attempt to learn more about his allegations. Additional comments made by complainant were disproven by camera footage and will not be made allegations. These include the claim that the officers followed driver for 5 miles and failed to inform driver why he was pulled over. Allegations against officer 1, rule 5, police authority and public trust, violated driver's constitutional rights. I recommended that this allegation be administratively closed and the

[24:01] department agreed. MI2025-029 complainant was removed from RTD bus and told he could not ride the bus for the rest of the evening. Officers 1 and two responded to a disturbance call because complainant was yelling at RTD employees. Officers considered whether complainant should go to detox or could walk home. Complainant wanted the officers to drive him home. The officers declined and left the scene. Complainant began calling BPD multiple times to complain and reached Sergeant One who drove to meet complainant and gave him a ride to his home. Sergeant 1 also coached the officers and explained that although providing a ride was not required, officers have the discretion and opportunity to solve a problem instead of creating new problems. The allegation against officer one, rule four, respect for others, uh, spoke rudely to complainant. I recommended that that be administratively closed and the department agreed. And officer 2,

[25:01] the same allegation, spoke rudely to complainant with the same recommendations and outcomes of administratively closed. And MI2025-031 complained alleged that he witnessed an unlawful traffic stop. In later correspondence correspondence he reported not having a complaint. Review of the body worn camera of the incident did not capture misconduct. Um the allegation against officer one rule four respect for others harassed a motorist. A motorist uh the monitor recommended that this be administratively closed and the department agreed. Looking at the 2024 open case load, there are five cases. SM2024-03 is in chain of command review. MI2024-065 is uh waiting scheduling for panel review. MI2024-076 is with the chief of police. MI2024-078

[26:03] is being prepped for panel review. And MI2024-82 is in chain of command review. Um looking at uh case statistics for 2025 month of July um I classified six complaints. Four of those were misconduct. There were zero serious misconduct classifications. One community inquiry, one community feedback, zero unspecified incidents, zero were referred to conflict facilitation process. I did not observe any interviews, had no critical incident scene response. Um, and I deemed thorough and complete two investigations by the PSU unit. And the investigations that were closed by BPD in the month of July were nine that you just heard of. And looking at our open docket, um,

[27:01] these numbers are current. As of August 5th, there were 42 cases. Of those 21 were classified um nine were pending monitor classification um and 12 of them were in preliminary investigation by PSU. And regarding my own community engagement or special events in July very light um I I did a BPD ride along with a sergeant. Um, I also looked and about half of the month I was um on vacation or city holiday. So, are there any questions before I stop sharing my screen? >> Chico, >> share it. So on on your monthly case summary,

[28:03] are you going to put the a new classification where we get those cases where we don't have those any information reducted and stuff like that? >> I don't in in the case summaries that you get. Yeah, in the monthly case summary, >> there was some exchange about the those cases that are sealed. >> Are you going to be reporting that we got this, but we we're not it's not being reviewed. >> We can talk more about those during close session. >> Okay. So, the question is, are you going to be tracking them here? I am reporting to publicly to the um limits of my ability.

[29:08] That answer your question, Chico? >> That's fine. All right. Any other questions for Sherry? We're just going to go right back to Sherry for our next items. So, Sherry cannot find the stop sharing screen. Oh, there we there. I'm gonna find it. Too many layers of windows open. >> Well, good. Um, so that brings us to our ad hoc items. First one is a discussion of the fatal incident. I didn't know that I was talking about

[30:00] this to kick it off, but um I think people should have seen the inquiry from former um co-chair Victor King regarding an incident that happened in December 2024. um where the district attorney publicly released um his report into an investigation where a person who had been um detained by CUPD and then transported to the hospital um died in custody after um I think two days later um Victor inquired whether the panel was going to um be looking into that. Um so that is one of the cases that we are going to um be able to discuss in close closed session. >> Does anyone have any public meeting questions about that? I know there's some questions about kind of why we hadn't maybe heard about it through the usual official like critical incident

[31:01] channels. Just some differences with this. Do you want do you want to address that Sherry? why this didn't come across as a a critical incident initially. >> Um I was notified of this uh case pretty early on and I reviewed the video and um there was a discussion of whether or not it did classify did qualify as a critical incident. um it isn't clear. Um but we've been able to talk with uh with BPD and basically have an understanding that um we're not going to argue about whether it technically is a critical incident or not. Um but that the because there are criminal charges against one of the paramedics um and BPD does not have control over most of the evidence in this case. The expectation is going to be that the panel will be able to review the the evidence. Um, but it's going to be after the conclusion of the felony criminal trial

[32:02] >> or criminal matter. I don't know if it's going to go to trial or not. >> Okay. So, according to our ordinance with a critical incident where BPD is the main agency involved, we would be required to do a panel review. Correct. you wouldn't you wouldn't be required, but you certainly would have the ability to vote to to decide whether or not you would, which I expect the answer is would almost always be yes. >> Okay. Um and um I don't remember the exact uh exact reasons, but Dor uh District Attorney Dherty and his uh public report identified that this took the Boulder County um investigative team um longer to to get to his his finding and report than it normally does. >> Any other questions? Turner, I saw you

[33:00] had your hand up briefly. Did you have a question? >> It's been answered. >> Cool. Go ahead, Melan. >> So, I'm just wondering, um, BPD was involved, but not maybe directly in this critical incident. >> How about we talk about it in close session? Go ahead, >> Sterling. with the criminal case going um that could take you know a couple years to finally dispo. Would it make sense to like discuss that after like have this discussion after because then there's probably going to be different panel members on as opposed to you know it gets discussed now and then people who are on the panel now aren't going to be able to have an input or thought about it when it actually is able to be reviewed if it's chosen to be. um panel members have in the past um

[34:02] deferred votes. So that is always an option if they feel that there's more information that they could obtain um and vote at a later time. >> Okay. So it's listed in our summary briefly. Is the intention that we could choose to vote tonight or defer or is it listed just forformational purposes tonight? I assume that you would vote on it. >> Okay. I mean, but you can also we have had times where someone has made a motion to defer. Okay. I appreciate your point though, Sterling. That totally makes sense. Um, let's let's talk about it in close session. But any other questions, comments. All right. Uh, we'll go to our next item. Ride along reminder. Um, I guess that's me. Um, I there are

[35:01] two things. If you have not done a ride along in the last 12 months, um, contact Bethany to get those in. Um, I believe last year quite a few people did them in the months leading up to, uh, the passage of the ordinance on I think October 23rd. So, I suspect that there are several people who are going to have their ride along expiring soon. So, reach out to Bethany so that you can get on the on the calendar for ride alongs. Thank you for those who have already done that. Um, but it is a requirement to maintain your ability to vote as a panel member. So, get those in um so that no one loses their voting status. and Selena had or has created um a chart where you can update your your ride alongs on it. That was I included the link in the last um updates from from the monitor. So, please fill that out and get your ride along scheduled if you

[36:01] need them. And also, ride alongs are nicer when it's not cold. >> Can you remind us the recommended times? What are the um >> Oh, sure. >> briefings. >> The it's highly recommended um to attend the the the briefings which would be considered roll calls in a lot of other departments. And those occur at 00 in the morning, 2:00 in the 00 at night as the way to start off your your ride along. It's not essential, but I think it really gives you framing for some of the things that the officers do and what they are expected, like what they're briefed on that morning and how they have follow-up conversations about incidents that happened either on that watch the day or so before or something that happened on a different watch but needs to be conveyed to the whole department. >> Got it. Thank you. >> Go ahead, Meyn.

[37:00] Um, I think I'm looking at your latest email, Sher, and I'm not seeing it, but I'm >> then maybe it was the week before. >> I may be missing that. So, >> I definitely do not have that pulled up. I know you are one of the people who has done a ride along relatively recently. >> Yeah, >> I can send it in the chat if that's helpful. >> Yeah, it would be great. Thank you. Apologies if I was thinking about the week prior. >> Um, oh, was someone about to say something? >> Oh, go ahead. >> Okay. Um, and this I believe was in in last week's email is we have a poll for a legal training. Um, I believe only two people. Thank you, Melen. Um have filled the poll filled out the poll to find out

[38:00] which day um would work best for people. Um so please get that filled out so we can get that on the calendar in a way that it accommodates the most panel members. >> Go ahead, Selena. >> Yeah, I just want to notify everybody that Milan had caught an error in my doodle poll. Um, so it looks on like on September 22nd. Um, that won't be a date that is available because we have the chief of police meeting that afternoon. So, um, I will make sure to make those edits in the doodle. Last item I think is well, actually, did we just address the last item? Anything else on the legal training? >> Good. All right. >> Although I mean I guess uh Selena with a

[39:00] Melanicist just tipped off also that September 22nd is the Q3 uh meeting with the chief. So there is a document where you can put in questions or topics. Um, and I have been assured that the the hot team or some representative from the hot team is going to be able to attend to um provide some of the questions or provide answers to um all of your thoughtful questions about the work that they do. >> Great. >> And the link to that, I think, was in your last email this week. And you can always find I I put I I put that in the the meeting documents for the month that it takes place in. >> Great. All right. Uh that takes us to public comment and halfway through our meeting I'm going to pass it over to Silabad. Take it from here.

[40:03] >> Okay. Thank you. Um, so we I'm looking at public comment, but uh we don't have any members of the public, right? No. Um, so I guess we can just skip to close session if that's okay. Uh we will need someone to make a motion to go into close session in a second. >> I forgot to mention before we This is typically also when we might take a break. Do we want to do that after or now? What do folks prefer? Break now or close session and then break? I I sort of think close session because that'll have us ending right around 7:30. So, if there is a member of the public who had hoped to um to speak at

[41:02] 7:30, that that timing seems to work. >> Nice. All right. Um I'll motion to go to close session. >> Okay. We need a second. >> I second. >> Okay. Give me one moment. I'm uh finishing up notes, so give me one second. Uh 20 minutes. Okay. All righty. See you guys soon. Uh, okay. So, we're back from close session uh and um seeing no members of the public to uh kind of re-engage with

[42:01] public comment. We're going to take a five minute break. Uh and we'll be back. Oh, 7 minute. Let's do that. So, we'll 55. Um I'll see you in a minute. Yes. Okay, welcome back. Um, so we uh have a few minutes left in our meeting. Um, we have case review voting and case assignment status. So let's um move into the voting. Um, so I'm going to identify the case. We're going to vote and Cherry or Selena are going to roll call votes. Okay, cool. So, our uh first case is uh EVT 0001 234. That's the critical incense we

[43:00] discussed previously. Um incident happened in December 27th of 2024. Um, so we have discussed it and I think we're ready to vote. >> Jenna Sher and yes um Chico >> yes >> and Alan is yes. Yes. >> Um, Turner, >> sorry, my audio was messed up. >> Um, this is the voting whether to take um EVT 004. Okay. >> Um, Solidad, >> yes. >> And Milan,

[44:01] >> yes. >> And Lizzy, >> yes. and Jason. >> Yes. And I apologize for sneezing on audio. >> Didn't hear it. >> We didn't hear you. >> Okay. >> Uh Okay. Next case is MI 2025 034. Um allegations um rule one conformance with laws deployed fireworks. Rule four, respect for others, harass, and or taunted neighbors. Um, and we're ready to go. >> Okay. Chico, >> no. >> Alan, >> yes. >> Turner, >> yes. >> Solidad. >> Yes. >> Nan, >> yes. >> Lizzy,

[45:00] >> yes. and Jason. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Oh. Oh, you say it first. >> Okay. Uh, the case is MI 2025 036. Uh, officer one, rule one, compliance with values, uh, rules and general orders. uh discretion arrest standards and enforcement actions. Rule one, compliance with values, rules and general orders, traffic enforcement. Rule one, again, same compliance with values, unbiased policing. Um, and we're ready to vote. >> Okay, Chico? >> Yes. >> Alan, >> yes.

[46:01] Turner, >> yes. >> Solidad, >> yes. >> Milen, >> yes. >> Lizzy, >> yes. >> And Jason. >> To be different, I'm going to say no. >> Got to be a rebel. Um okay. Uh then we move to assignments. So we are reviewing the two cases, right? The three cases. Okay. Okay. for the first case volunteers. Uh the first case is the critical incident one.

[47:03] Uh just to note, we don't need to be just three in these cases. We can all review the case. So everyone that has interest can sign up to review the case. Actually, that's true for all the cases, but we need a minimum of three um to review. Okay. So, no one's interested. >> Okay. again. So, this is for the critical incidence case. Okay. So, I don't know if I was looking away at the wrong time, but I have Chico, Alan, Soladad, Milen, and Lizzie. Did anyone else raise their hand or express interest that I missed? Okay. For our next case, MI 2025 034 volunteers email.

[48:05] Okay, hold it on, Jason. Okay. Um, next case, MI 2025036 Lizzy Chica. Mhm. Did anybody else? >> I I'll put my name there. >> Um, as a potential I'm interested in like case two, but three cases tonight is a lot. So, >> do do you want to be put down as sort of like an alternate or something like that or like

[49:00] >> I love it when more than three people sign up. If there's a conflict, >> it's it's far easier to schedule. >> Yeah. Um, >> also, um, Turner, I'm sorry. I don't want to put you on the spot. And I, >> uh, recognize you didn't sign up for any, but, uh, you you can, even if you haven't shadow yet a case, you can assign because by the time that we review these cases, you're going to be able to be reviewing. So, >> okay. Well, yeah, I'm interested in the first and second. >> Okay. Yeah, that's what I thought. So, if >> Sorry, I had no idea. Thank you. Um, and I'm sorry, Milen, the Did you Did you want to be fully included or did you want me to like identify you as a potential alternate for that? >> Just Just include me fully. >> Okay.

[50:00] Okay. And what appear that Turner is going to be in the first and second? Okay, cool. Um, okay. So, uh, we we have the assignments. Uh, Milan, I see your hand. >> Yeah. I just I just want to put down on the record that I um um I have asked uh for two cases to be reclassified by the um independent police monitor CF 20 202513 and CI 2025009 and that those were um denied. Um, I think I'm I just want to voice a concern for biases that have been um disregarded and uh I just wanted to be on the record. So, thank you very much. >> Okay. Thank you, Milan.

[51:00] Um, okay. Anyone anything else? Um, if there's nothing further, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion. >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second. >> Okay. Actually, Jason, you're third, but okay, we'll take it. >> Okay, great. Thank you everyone. Great meeting. Uh, and I'll see you in person next month. Good job, guys. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you all. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye.