June 24, 2024 — Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:02] That would be fine. I trying to figure out a lot of us are sleep. Here, so we'll, we'll have to excuse me, as we proceed. hey? Let's see, shall we? Is it recording for a sec, brother? Yes, for me. Yes, chair we have. We have quorum this evening. see? So I'll officially calls order. Do we take role? I have everybody for the minutes. Okay, good. So why don't we have a motion to through the agenda. I'm not sharing to approve the agenda. Okay, there's a second. Okay? Yeah. Second, all, all in favor of

[1:03] you're in my Christmas day. okay, so see? And there's is there any discussion about the agenda or the motion? Thanks, alright. Seeing that we'll proceed? so And I guess we can move straight to future board items. this item will be presented by Scott for you. As a reminder. This is also where members of our crowd can suggest items that we'd like to be considered scheduling in future meetings. So, Ali, would you like to tell us about feature board items. I will. And just I know we're still getting at the rhythm. First, st can I could just do a thumb check. Are you all hearing me. Okay. quick, thank you. Great. Thank you for letting me join you virtually tonight. So you have this in your packet. We don't read it to you but want to call out just some notable items. One of the most significant happens Wednesday evening, where the beverage licensing authority will consider a liquor license application by our partner at the Flatirons golf course.

[2:19] We don't anticipate any issues with that. There has historically been a liquor license at that site for decades, but it is a milestone that will help us finalize a date for opening along with the closeout status. So at your July meeting, or sooner, we expect to share with you the date for the anticipating opening of that facility along with the celebration hope wanna invite you on July 4th is one of our signature events at the band shell in the Central Park the Boulder Symphony plays an incredible mix of patriotic music. It's a lovely event. something that is not on the document, but I just wanted to mention to you that on Thursday City Council is going to discuss what's called a baseline urban services study for the planning reserve. This is property in the north of Boulder that both the city and county through the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan had agreed in the future could be annexed into the city to meet future needs

[3:12] per our code. The 1st step in that process is an assessment of the urban services needs. What are the criteria that would be required to make that part of the city, and that relates to transportation and utility infrastructure as well as parkland? So that's a very technical process. We don't expect there to be any policy decisions. Thursday night. It really is just a discussion of the findings of that baseline urban services study. But because 40% of the land is parkland, you all might be hearing about it, and so just wanted to make sure you are aware. and then also just highlighting. Your next meeting in July is where you will take action on expenditures from the permanent Parks and recreation fund. Tonight you will have a discussion on those items. We really hope for a clean read of that in July. So if you do have questions on the budget or the cip. We just really appreciate your engagements and questions, then cause we unanimous approval is what we're looking for in July.

[4:07] And then, also just noting that we are planning for your annual CIP trip in August. This is a really valuable opportunity in the field where we will get to be on site at several key projects and talk to you about them. So just making sure you have those on your calendars. They're really exciting events. And with that I'll hand it back to the chair. Thanks, Kelly. Thank you very much. Any any questions on future items. Is there a date for the August meeting? There is and the date is. yeah. It's our usual meeting that we're just putting filter and set up and we're lucky we'll have someone from our drives around the van. Is that? Yes. So yes, we'll need that and built available. Go out from there.

[5:01] okay, sleep. Okay. So with that, I think we can move to all the participation. we have quite a few comments tonight. pretty much all about. Well, we'll see what they're found. As a reminder this. this portion of the meeting is for members of the public to communicate ideas or concerns to board regarding parts of issues for which a public hearing is not scheduled later. This meeting. See, tonight there are there are 12. Yes, a There is no both. The 1st plan is on the agenda, so we hold these until we get to that course of the agenda, or, you know, not, go here. All these comments at this time. During part of public participation time. The public's encourage to comment on the need for parcel recreation programs at facilities as they perceive them. All speakers will limit to 3 min, depending on the nature of your matter, you may may or may not receive 1st response to the board. Have you delivered your comments?

[6:14] The Board is always listening to an appreciative of the community feedback. We do ask, if at all possible, that our speakers use their name to sign it to Zoom. I know there's a couple of people who are signed in with like iphone, and that makes it very difficult. We'll do our best to accommodate everyone, of course. so, Rosario? Yes, yeah, thank you, Mr. Chair. The 1st person I have on my list is Matt Richll. but I do not see his name online. not signed in as Matt. So I am going to move to Lori Mason. Lori, Mason. I'm going to

[7:02] unmute you. Give me just a chance to call up a timer for you. Lori, are you ready. Lori? Are you ready. I am ready. Yes. Okay, thank you. Laurie. Hello, everyone! My name is Lori Mason. I live in Boulder, Colorado, and I am here today to support development of indoor tennis in boulder even more so. I support an alliance between tennis center of the Rockies and Boulder to develop indoor tennis facilities. My family and I have been members of Rocky Mountain tennis Center. For the past 2 years. I play on several teams under Rmtc. My husband and I play on a mixed doubles League and my daughter is going to camp at Rmtc. This summer. Some of my closer friends are fellow teammates from my Tennis League, whom I've met through tennis. It's created a wonderful community for myself and my family.

[8:17] my tennis friends and I have been discussing what to do and where to go. For the last year, when indoor tennis goes way in boulder. We are honestly heartbroken about the state of tennis in boulder and the lack of an indoor facility. We have hundreds of texts on this subject, and I cannot drive 3 blocks in boulder without scouting a location for facility. I'm sure this committee is well aware that Meadows has a 5 plus year. Wait list and Boulder Country Club even more so, and they're both very costly. I have traveled to clubs and courts outside of boulder to see if I can find an alternative. But I cannot be a working parent and keep being an avid tennis player because of the travel time. I would like to say a little bit about Coach Kendall and Donna. They're both wonderful humans. I regularly take private lessons with Coach Kendall for the last 7 months, and he's not only a top Notch coach, but an honorable human. Kendall and Donna are wonderful members of the community. Do you know that they have provided wheelchair tennis program for several years. At no or little cost they volunteered their time to so many people. They would be incredible contributors and managers of an indoor tennis facility in boulder

[9:25] boulder is consistently ranked one of the top cities to live in because of its access to the outdoors and recreation and its conscious development. I know for sure. If Boulder created an indoor tennis program and pick a ball facility, it would be so widely used that this next meeting would be about how to expand it and create even more courts. If you go to Neptune mountaineering cafe, you feel the history and love for the sport of climbing and mountaineering at a full cycle. You see cyclists coming together for tennis players. We have just been getting booted from one court to another and one location to another. We want a home. It will be wonderful for those of us who love tennis and racquet sports to have a facility, a community and a place to play, meet, and connect over a healthy and positive endeavor.

[10:10] This past month I found myself Googling the top cities to live in. If you love tennis, they're all in California and Florida, and I really don't want to move there. I want to stay in Boulder I hope that the City Council strongly considers this potentially wonderful alliance between Kendall and Donna and tennis center of the Rockies with Boulder. Thank you so much for listening and considering my point of view. Thank you, Lori. go to be. I will now call on Julie Schoon, Schoenfeld addressed as Julie. Let me see if I can find you, Julie.

[11:00] Okay, Julie. I'm going to unmute you and show the timer. When it begins. You may begin speaking. Can you hear me? Okay. okay, I'll start now. Hello! My name is Julie Schoonfeld. I'm a thirty-year resident of the City of Boulder, a current boulder housing Partners Commissioner and a member of the city's racial equity working group. I'm speaking tonight in my individual capacity. I started playing tennis about 14 years ago at the North Boulder Recreation Center, with Gonzo Garcia, who is a boulder legend, having taught many hundreds of boulder kids and adults to love tennis. About 10 years ago I was fortunate to join a private club where my love of tennis has blossomed into what my husband might call an obsession. I now play on multiple Usta teams, and one of them even won a State championship in 2,023.

[12:02] Most of my physical and emotional health is due to the exercise and friendships that tennis has given me. My kids both played tennis for Boulder High School, and they have been proud to represent Boulder while competing against other kids on the Front range. I don't know the exact number of outdoor courts that Boulder has lost with the closing of Rmtc. But do feel certain that currently there is no public place to play indoors in boulder, and that both the CU women's tennis team and the CU. Club tennis team are without a permanent home through the Usta League I often play teams based out of the Apex tennis center in Arvada. That facility opened in 2018, and was funded through a bond passed by the voters. It's beautiful, and it has 4 indoor and 8 outdoor courts, which are almost always in use. Apex holds clinics that fill up immediately when signups open a week in advance. Some of the best adult tennis teams in the State are housed at the apex facility and several boulder juniors currently travel to apex for lessons and clinics. This year 3 of the 7 5, a girls, individual state tennis champions were won.

[13:13] Tennis championships sorry were won by Ralston Valley High School athletes. Rv. Is located close to the apex facility. I support the construction of a public facility like apex here in Boulder, so that all boulder residents have the opportunity to play tennis year round without the financial and other barriers that come with joining a private club, I would be willing to donate my time in order to make this a reality. Thank you. Thank you, Julie.

[14:00] I will now call on Cindy Goldrich. Cindy. I'm looking for you. I found you. I'm going to unmute you and prepare the clock. Hey? Okay, cat. Yes. Hi! Can you hear me? Go ahead! Okay. Hi, I'm not gonna say too much, because the previous speakers really spoke so eloquently about the issue. But I will say I moved here almost 6 years ago. and the community especially for the older people, the seniors that has gathered around tennis is incredible. It's large, it's diverse. And they really. you know, look at tennis as a center where they are regularly going. So I think the fact that there are not going to be any indoor courts this winter is really a shame. Also I know that we brought in Coach Prime, and that brought a tremendous amount of

[15:06] attention and resources and money to boulder. The fact that cu tennis girls women now potentially has nowhere to play is is bizarre and and horrifying. That we would do such a difference in the men and the women in terms of servicing. So. for many of the reasons that have already been mentioned, I really hope that before it's too late. The city decides to prioritize creating some indoor courts for the boulder tennis community. I yield my time. Thank you. Thank you, Cindy. Aiden this person. Would you just also meet usually. This isn't cooked enough yet. She's spoken because it looks like Julie is.

[16:01] Yeah, awesome. I will now call on Jennifer. Joe. Cindy is still on mute. and I guess I'll just put this together so proud that we do have time on our agenda discuss. or it's so we can. It's available in the reserve arm. That's that's what somebody's done. Miss Joe. Are you ready. Miss Jo? Hello! Yes! Can you hear me? We can hear you. Okay.

[17:08] Hi, everyone. My name is Jennifer Joe. and I'm a resident here for 12 years. I moved here from California. Tennis has been a very large part of my life. I played in college, I played in high school, and it was my way of expressing and having a place that I could call my own I'm gonna speak on behalf of my daughter, who is a member at Rntc. she's 13 years old, and she got into tennis because she needed a sport to call her own it was during Covid where she didn't have anything to do. She decided to pick up tennis, because also, prior to Covid, she was getting bullied at school for being overweight. She picked up tennis as a sport to

[18:01] as a safe place, and because I also played tennis, she lost her grandparents. 4 of her grandparents during Covid. and one of her last grandparents was a was a huge supporter of tennis. and she made a promise to her grandparent that she would actually playing college because that was her dream of playing in college and possibly getting a scholarship if she can do that. Her dream is to go to medical school, and also to dedicate her life to tennis. tennis has become who she is, and has helped her get through a lot of horrible parts in her life. Last year she was able to become one of the best players in Colorado, with the help of Rntc. And she just recently well, she's learned that Sally Rmtc. Is no longer available, and there's not a whole lot of places in Boulder to play tennis.

[19:03] That is why she's asking for help to make this happen, that she just didn't put her heart and soul into something to be shut down because she doesn't have anywhere to play so she's kindly asking for your help to get a place to play so she can reach her full of potential. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Jennifer. I will now call on CJ. Wiley, addressed as Mr. Wiley. Let me see if I can find you. I'm here. Are you ready, Mr. Wiley? Yeah. thanks so much. My name is Cj. Willy. I. I moved to East Boulder rather recently with my wife and our 4 young children.

[20:03] I want to speak with you about what a healthy racket sports ecosystem looks like. In particular, that ecosystem needs to have a blend of public facilities and private facilities as these facilities serve different purposes. we have in Boulder some wonderful human resources. Someone mentioned Gonzo earlier. He's fantastic. in particular, I wanna highlight Kendall and Donna Chatamba who have given 20 plus years to this community, and they are committed to boulder at a level beyond. Frankly, what I think Boulder deserves in terms of what has happened to them, and in their dream of of supporting the boulder tennis community.

[21:01] So I want to speak in in favor of a public private partnership. And I want Boulder parks and Rec to really think creatively about some of these sites that they've identified and how they could potentially benefit from having a private facility at some of the sites where the private facility could be built a lot more quickly and frankly would still be open to the public. Much in the same way that Rmtc. Was could still host large tennis events which is now sadly missing from the boulder bracket sports ecosystem. and it's not mutually exclusive with having world class public facilities run by boulder parks and Rec. I think both can exist and both should exist. Because they serve different communities and and different purposes. So I'm not sure if you've done much benchmarking with other communities. But

[22:02] I have as a as I travel and play tennis and I see cities that have a healthy racket sports, ecosystem big cities like San Diego. where they're able to to host major events. They have a healthy racket sports, ecosystem. smaller cities, much closer, like steamboat springs has a population of around, you know, 12 to 15,000, depending on the season. And it has a healthy racket. Sports. Ecosystem centered around a single tennis and pickleball center, which now has separate buildings for each sport. a good benchmark might be Boise, Idaho. It's 2 and a half times the size of boulder, and it has a large college. I counted up last time I was there. I think they have more than 40 courts. And so I would say, here in Boulder we've gone what could be called a fairly healthy ecosystem, where courts are strained for use, particularly. Thank you, Mr. Willie.

[23:02] And heard. I just want to say that we have quite a lot of benchmarking. I hope you'll stay visibility for the presentation later and later in the day to hear about all that. I will now call on Lori Mason. Oh, I went already. We went. I think we went a little bit out of order. Rosa Charlie Hoffman, I will now call on Charlie Hoffman. Yeah, I I unmuted. Perfect! Go ahead! Charlie! Okay. My name is Charlie Hoffman. I came to Boulder in 1972. So I'm kind of one of the older guys. I remember when Pearl Street Mall was, you know, before Pearl Street, Mall and Street just went all the way through, and

[24:03] and there was a very handy junkyard in what is now Valmont Park, which is kind of irrelevant to kind of relevant to the whole tennis situation. I fell in love with the town large part because of the athletics and all the athletes. You know, Boulder is very remarkable in that regard. providing opportunity for people to engage in sports, social, you know socially. and even running was a social sport for me provides real value to the community. I've met a diverse set of people as a runner, and now that I'm older as a tennis and pickleball player it's been great, but it's also becoming way more difficult to get on a court. The social aspect of the sport has been huge for me. I believe it nurtures a social cohesion in the collective community that is also very important, especially in these times of divisiveness. Public facilities is the best way to bring the full range of our demographic together. To reach the diverse set of people requires a diverse set of sporting opportunities without joining an exclusive club.

[25:07] I'm most concerned about racquet sports right now, and by that I mean tennis and pickleball. We're losing 29 or so courts in this calendar year, and all the bubbles at Rocky Mountain tennis Center has been discussed. Rmtc. Was the only affordable option for indoor tennis in the winter, and they also provided clinics to the general public, so we could practice up for the coming outdoor season. Our only options now are joining an exclusive club in Boulder, or driving to nearby towns like Longmont for the Longmont Athletic Club, or which is an Erie So, to conclude, I'm emphatic that the tennis center at Belmont Park and additional outdoor courts at Ebcc and elsewhere be given a high priority. The 18 month study that we saw this winter

[26:01] provided the racket sports community with some real hope. But now the tough decisions need to be made. So please give that study the serious consideration it deserves. Thank you. Thank you, Charlie. I will now call on Leslie Krug. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Leslie, are you ready. I am. Let's go. Hi! I'm Leslie Krug. I've been a member at Rocky Mountain tennis, formerly the Harvest House since it opened in 1977. Yes, 47 years. There I am devastated with the city's plan to take away and not replace 2729 courts whatever, and our tennis home from us.

[27:09] We need access to play tennis in boulder with reasonable availability and cost, both in and outdoor courts. Indoor courts being key in Colorado with professional management clinics, tournaments, League play programs for Disabled Players and a home for the Cu Women's Tennis team. Rocky Mountain tennis has done this successfully for many, many years and will be a plug and play manager, or facilities that the city decides to build. This makes the most sense owners. Kendall and Donna to Tomba are passionate about this sport and have the experience to make tennis work for all of us. We have such a fantastic community of players and friends who are committed to this life sport game that offers fitness, strategy, social mental health, benefits, competition increases in longevity and can be played just about any age around the world.

[28:06] Did you know that tennis can help with weight loss, improve balance, increase upper body strength. It's an aerobic activity that raises your heart rate and flexibility, agility, speed, 3 h of tennis a week can reduce your cardiovascular disease by up to 56% it has been proven to be the best sport in which to start children as it addresses most athletic competencies. and playing tennis extends a healthy lifestyle anywhere from 6 to 10 years. Longevity is a hot topic these days. We all want our golden years to be healthy ones. It can be played by a huge range of ages, from the very young to the very old and Rocky Mountain has a 1 0 0 year old woman who credits tennis for helping her maintain a healthy lifestyle. mental health, social activities. It. It's all about our community. We have great players where

[29:03] many education levels were very ethnicity. Do multi-sport. We're just a very cohesive community. And I would ask you to please build this facility that meets our needs. Consider Donna and Kendall as the managers of a new facility, and take care of us. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you, Leslie. At the moment we'll put clarification that we felt clear on. It was not the city's decision to redevelop private property, Harvest House private developers who made that decision. I will now call on Roseanne a Moyles. Let me see if I can find a Roseanne.

[30:00] Alright, Roseanne! Can you hear us. Yes, I can. Can you hear me? I can. We can. All right. I'm ready. Go ahead! Okay, thank you. And Hello, everyone. I'm Roseanna Moyles and I moved to Boulder exactly 2 years ago without knowing anyone. Rocky Mountain tennis center became my community. Through the club I have made friends and had a soft landing to this amazing city. Learning about the Boulder Newcomers Club, now serving on that board and volunteering locally all because of the people that I met during clinics and the pros and all the teams that I've been able to play on. I'm so sorry I'm so I'm thrilled to hear that the city does have plans for new courts. Even though it still doesn't come close to replacing the 27 courts that you know, have been demolished at at the old club at Millennium. And now see you South. I realize some of that was a private situation. But see, you South is just such a beautiful place. It's so sad to know that those courts are going to be under 20 feet of they're gonna be buried under like I heard 20 feet of

[31:13] of land. But I want to say that I'm just so impressed with the Rocky Mountain tennis Center model that it's home to wheelchair tennis building more than just new tennis players, but giving real purpose to people's lives, youth and adult, with disabilities, and being the home of cu tennis. I've just never seen anything like it, and I've been playing tennis since I was 7 in in many communities around this country, I mean, even before I actually joined the club, I was always made to feel welcome in the clinics and and Donna and and Kendall really know how to create community to be inclusive and just to teach this amazing sport to others. I mean, there are. I'm sure you guys have done the research. There are definitely public private precedence for this. In other cities. There's sport time in New York which I was in had the opportunity to play at when I lived in that part of the country. But I just want to say that

[32:10] I'm sad that the club is going away, but it would be such a gain for the entire community if Boulder looks to Donna and Kendall to bring some kind of public private partnership. To boulder, and I thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you, Roseanne. I will now call on Ellen taxman. Ellen, are you with us? I I am you hear me! We can hear you, you ready. I'm ready. Hi! So, as you know, my name is Ellen Taksman. I have lived here for 30 years, and almost all those years have been a member at Rocky Mountain Tennis

[33:11] Center, formerly Harvest House. I've watched with dismay to see the dwindling numbers of tennis courts, one by one, be redeveloped for other things, started out with Williams village gone, went to Kitchridge to make room for the Law School, Baseline, Middle School Rock, now Rocky Mountain tennis center, and we know CU South is on the Butcher block as well have also served as a an assistant tennis coach for Boulder High School girls team and for their varsity team. And I I'm concerned about the future of tennis in this community that it's going to be a discourage young players for to to look at tennis as an option, as there's so few opportunities here. Unless you are a fortunate one to

[34:20] be able to join a private club, and I feel that that is limiting the future of tennis for for a vast number of of younger people. Obviously, for myself, I am an avid tennis player. I've played for over 50 some years, and it's disappointing to see that that tennis has not taken a higher priority, so I'll just leave it to say that if there is an opportunity for a private public venture to build indoor courts. Both in and outdoor courts.

[35:07] I am all for it, and I would love to see tennis flourish in this community. I think it is one of those sports that has builds community and develops, as other people have said, a a life skill that goes well beyond, just on the court. So thank you very much. Thank you, Ellen. I will now call on Roger Larson. addressing as Mr. Larson.

[36:02] Okay, Mr. Larson. Are you ready to begin. I am. Okay. And I thank you for the opportunity. I 1st came to Boulder in 1988. That makes me a senior citizen. I was attending a conference at the University, and that's when I 1st became acquainted with the Harvest House Tennis Club. and 6 years later my wife and I and my children decided to retire to Boulder. So I've been active with the Rocky Mountain Tennis Club since I came here. Prior to that I was teaching overseas for 34 years. In countries like Holland, Bahrain, Turkey. Okinawa, Mainland, Japan, and tennis was a sport is a sport worldwide that brings people together. It's an well known international sport. My goodness, Wimbledon starts next July on July first, st

[37:02] and for Boulder not to be. I'll be losing its support of tennis in our community. It's just pure, devastating. So the millennium motel probably should have been landmarked, and we should have kept that tennis facility and developed it rather than demolishing it. But since that's too late to reconsider and do the right thing. I'm would like to promote that the city along with the University and Kendall and donna use their expertise to form a a tennis complex offering indoor tennis to all the members this coming winter. I'm going to be driving out to Longmont. Yeah, driving my car along with 8 other of my good friends that were members of the Rocky Mountain Tennis Center, and we would much prefer to be able to stay in the City of Boulder.

[38:00] Thanks for listening, and look forward to your support. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Larson. that everybody wrote, or do we need to try and see if that's here? All right, I am going to call on Matt Richtown if I can find him. Mr. Chair. I do not see Matt rich. Tell Mr. Ridgell, is that you. Yes, I'm here. Yep. That'll be the 1st time. Can you hear me? Okay. Forget. Okay, thank you.

[39:01] Hey? I'm gonna do the unsavory and brag about my daughter. she plays tennis, but I'm not bragging about her cause. She's a would be Olympian or some extraordinary athlete. I hope she's not listening in. She's 13, and despite being pretty able at tennis. she has resisted playing eye performance or ultra competitive, and has instead made tennis, a vital part of her recreation, physical health. and mental health, and the reason that I mentioned her at age 13 is because she asked me the other day, Daddy, am I gonna have to stop playing? She is symbolic of a whole bunch of us for whom tennis may be misunderstood. not everyone is wealthy, not everyone was well healed, growing up. Many of us are people who are getting our physical and mental health needs met all the time, and our community needs.

[40:07] I think we have 4 things in common. One is, we are a broad demographic. We are seniors, we are middle aged folks, we are kids. We are wheelchair players. They've been mentioned 2 over the last decades. We have come together to make Boulder a really potent, wonderful, intense, and invested tennis town, meaning. we are not coming to you with de demanding supply or asking for supply in the absence of demand. It is already there. 3. We have been imploring the city to help us and to act. We are going to be without help this winter, and very much fighting for court time more broadly thereafter. And the last thing we have in common, and it's been mentioned. But I really want to point this out as a huge believer in this community. We are not people who belong to country clubs.

[41:04] We love Boulder because it professes to be about access and equity. It professes to not only be about people who have means. I ask you humbly, on behalf of my daughter, myself, my friends, and everybody who's spoken here tonight. Please act whether it's working with Rmtc. Whether it's in some other fashion. I know you are stymied by bureaucracy, but please be creative demonstrate leadership, do public service and help us. Thank you. Thank you, Matt. I think that should be all of our speakers. Right, Rosa. Okay, so thanks everybody for all your comments. We appreciate you taking the time to be with us and speak to us. Since there are no other we'll close public 1st station at the end of the meeting. keeping in mind that we are going to discuss the port plan later in our agenda. Is there anyone on the property like to press comments at this time.

[42:06] I think I'm guessing most of the questions will be answered in that. My only question is, can somebody explain what happen with Rmtc. At millennium health. So those of us who might not have a full understanding of what went on there. They were leasing that property from the people owned it. And they, the owners, decided, okay. so okay. And I would just note at this time that Sunny is listening in. She's specifically asked that we not call on her because she's I guess, trying to attend other business. At the same time she may chime in at any time she likes just question, since, are the live public commenters? Are they going to be around for the discussion, or does it make sense that instead of us right. But does it make sense to discuss now, if that's possible for that part of the agenda? I I encourage everyone in the public to stick around.

[43:07] But yeah, that's entirely up to them. Okay, yeah. Just asking what makes more sense if they're good. I think we should keep it in our agenda. No one else have. You can say, now. fine. Okay. Ellie. Is there anyone on the staff would like to respond? David. The project team is there, and I'll certainly defer to them. But I know they're they've prepared a really great presentation that I think will answer a lot of questions you might have, so I'll defer to Charlotte, Mark and Tina. if, and let one of them chime in, if they have something to add now on that. Sounds good. And again, like members of the public. If you are interested, this issue, I encourage you to stick around, and we'll hear from this for the staff later in the meeting. Okay, so let us let us progress.

[44:00] find my. okay. So we'll move on to the consent agenda this is the approval of minutes from the baseball meeting. so would anyone like to make a motion to approve events from the daylight meeting? I'll never motion to approve this. Aye. converted. What's the brute? Are there any questions posted to the minutes? Very them. No, penny. Okay, seeing none. Then you can English to improve minutes. you know. Let's be having

[45:10] the minutes from the majority of meeting. Say, Hi, Hi. brave! See! That's brings us to you, Allie. Great. Thank you so much. Our team has prepared a very helpful consent. Agenda, as a reminder. These are items did not require your approval or discussion. We offer that as background and information, and should you have questions on any of them, the team is here for questions. Agenda.

[46:11] All right. So I guess we better need to vote on that or we will not just 1 min. Okay, great. So operation updates peace. The consent agenda is inclusive of the operation updates and the planning updates. And so with with approving it, you do it all in one fell swoop. But okay, so we'll move on to action items. which is the public hearing consideration of a motion to name the department for the most part. Was you pretending to say hybrid? Yes. Hi! I'm Charlotte. I've seen some of you virtually, but I'm the city planner with the boulder department and Rosa before, and again she also make Ashley Pelotier a panelist. She's our consultant. This is Zaki, who's been working on this project as well, and she'll help with our later presentation about the design.

[47:04] Right now, we're just talking about the names is that is what we're asking you to take action on. And Darren Wagner. Also I see her face just jumping up online. She's at home virtually with us, so she'll chime in if I miss something. She's a wonderful project manager. I don't know, Darren, if you want to say anything else to kick it off. Right? Fine. Yeah, yeah. alright. Awesome. Thanks for promoting information as well, she can chime in. If you'd like hands. I'll start by sharing my screen. And then, Rosa, I'll let you pull up the video in just a couple of slides when we when we get there. All right. So here tonight, to talk to you about naming when you park on Violet, this park has historically been known, based on Violet Avenue, the street that it's on, but based on the part based on parks and recreation policies, have authority over parks and recreation, or over parks and recreation names

[48:19] as long as the main is not after a sponsored donor or one individual organization, which is not so that means that it calls to you all to make this decision. With the help of our community. So these 1st couple of photos, you see community members working at a community meeting to explain some of the recommendations. And I'm not going to go too far into that because the video is going to explain more. And we talked to you all as well last month about that, so to not repeat too much. But we're here tonight to follow up from our discussion item that we presented in April, and to ask for your formal action in naming Violet admin. So

[49:01] that's the start. And then those are, I'm gonna stop sharing and let you share. And as a team to this video worked with our channel, 8 team so as we're so pull set up. We're just grateful for their support and bringing the storytelling and having community members share their thoughts and really share their story and their awards. So yeah. what wasn't? We're working to design this park with the community. And we're here today to celebrate specifically the name that our community has come up with for the site. The recommended name for the site is primos park, and primos means cousins in Spanish. and it reflects our kids hopes of coming out to the site, with their cousins, with their families, with their close friends, and getting to enjoy the park and feature. So this is a neighborhood park which means that it is publicly accessible, but it's meant to really serve the people that live near it. So people that live within walking distance and can get to the park easily.

[50:08] The process for naming the park was that 1st we worked with youth in Boulder Meadows, which is right here next to the park, and they helped us brainstorm ideas. They also interviewed adults in their lives to come up with extra ideas and understand what this site means to people in the community already, even though it's not officially part. My favorite part was collaborating with others, and just kind of we're getting to kind of just have a save. And what happens with the Park? I like that park a lot. When asked if it should be parqueted or Cousins Park, the kids gave us very strong feedback that no, it should be part Spanish and part English, that they kind of blend in their everyday lives. So we're really excited that the community has a chance to give it a name that represents their values and what they want to see

[51:07] I do not understand they are. And then maybe if we just make it full screen again. Hate to confirm people with us. Yeah, pretty much what that means. I don't mean where we need to helped narrow down those ideas and took them to a public meeting in March.

[52:04] where the community got to vote on the top. 5 choices that these kids and community connectors were recommending. I wasn't the one that paid the most part, but I liked it, cause they kind of like that kind of reminded me of like when Maya and my cousins we used to come here like watch the river and stuff. I'm wondering if you need anything. Community connectors are people that you outreach in the community and represent voices that were formerly marginalized or oftentimes get overlooked, and the community connector for people with disabilities. The entire Grand valley has a name of Freemos Park, for the most part means to me a place where you hang out, and it feels like home. And I want this to be a welcoming space for everyone by the name of this part. Anybody can come over here the shelter of the publicity. Anybody bunk. Other persons are welcome with me.

[53:01] I guess you've got the most of our anybody right kind of welcome everyone. So this fall we will have a final design for the park that we'll share back with the community, and that will include lots of different things. So keeping this wonderful creek and lots of these beautiful trees, and adding more beautiful trees, more wonderful places to sit and play, and within nature a place for food trucks and community gatherings, lots of other things that our community has told us. They want to see we're excited, that this park will be one of the 1st fully accessible parts in Boulder. We will keep working on a phased approach to design and construction in the coming years. In the meanwhile the park is open to the public to enjoy as it's we are excited to celebrate the milestone of this meeting. Yerem manila

[54:02] e zap after the Estefani. It's a great primo part. Welcome primos, part welcome. Welcome to the newest house. Hi! Alright! So. since our zoom didn't cooperate very well with the subtitles. You may have noticed that when people are speaking English they're Spanish subtitles, and then subtitles so done very intentionally, as the name itself is bilingual. So I just want to read a little bit of what Bernardo Padia our Mini tech, or who you heard speaking Spanish in this video?

[55:03] Said so. He says this name was chosen by the community. It helps a lot, so that this part with this park and the name of this part to me primos is not some. It's not just a real cousin, a cousin of blood, but it's somebody who is a close friend, something very beautiful. And then at the end you all would be crying if you had heard him say, Spanish caus. Let's see. he says, we want for the community to feel welcome here and feel a part of this family so really grateful to all of them for taking the time. And those 4 kids that helped us come up with some of the design of the park so far, and also have helped us come up with the name. So it's been a good part of this process. So with that

[56:01] we'll get back to sharing my screen, you know. and juggle here. So we're asking you to take action tonight, and then the next steps for us after that action would be notifying city council. So we did send them a heads up after your May meeting with the discussion item information. and there also be a press release and other communications to let the broader community know the neighborhood, but also all the border. And then coming up already in July, we have more of these nature play picnics, which is part of what you see pictured in the background here, and a lot of what that footage was from this kid was just jumping and running in the creek. Our partners at growing up Boulder have helped us run these nature play picnics to see what kids are loving in the park, and what they'd like to see more of even from this really young age. So on July 11, th 18, th we'll be back out there having some more fun.

[57:10] And then we're having a naming celebration. The community is hosting us at their block party for the meadows manufactured home community. They're generously inviting and really posting this ceremony to celebrate us. So we're excited for that as well. There'll be more information on that very welcome. So with that action we're asking to take tonight. This is the suggested motion language, and I will turn it back over to chair for motion, and then also for any discussion. Speech is like a motion first, st and every year. Right? So is there a motion to consider the the recommended name for the most part. Don't second. okay. All they were considering today. Aye, so we got a couple of questions here.

[58:03] Is there one? It looks like Sunny as long as it was I just wanted to say I love it. I totally vote for it. Thanks, Buddy. Is there a question for lever? Yeah, with it, with a naming? Not at this time they didn't necessarily consider. I don't know what the naming process was like for the library, but those processes but certainly within a physical site, and think maybe even through the name. We're looking at ways to connect those, especially through some kind of story walk. So have someday there what might be a primo story? That leads people from the park library, or vice versa, so definitely looking at ways that connect. And that question came from that is that I asked last time about. Was there a physical connection? Sure it looked like it on the map. There is a physical connection. Yes, and in fact, they recently did smart to also connect a path through the western side of that neighborhood with a nice accessible gravel path

[59:08] that then goes over that mystery bridge. and we'll be out there as well. Hopefully, this weekend they will have the brand opening. I guess they'll have a grand opening, even if I can't, fully, because I've played tonight. On Saturday from 10 to one. So if you'd like to come see us out there and then see also those beautiful new libraries for 11 years. And There's a couple other questions here that pertain more to the sighting part. Address those later. Yeah, something had not so good. Yes, thank you as part of that separate item. Since you're taking formal action on this and providing input on the other. A item.

[60:00] So we'll come back to some of these questions. what? The question is relevant is, how will we explain the name on the site apart. Yeah. And I, Darren, feel free to add, I think that's something we are. Once you all take action looking forward and trying to decide. Working with our community connectors. how not only just the name primos, but the sense of belonging can really be communicated, so that even if somebody misses one single flack or something. You really get that feeling on site through the physical things on site as well as the activation, the events on the types of things happening. So yeah, that's we're working on it. And probably you'll go into that Darren with in the next presentation. Okay? Great. Any other questions that we have about the name. I I've just a general question is a newer board member. it seems like in the video. Everyone already.

[61:00] Thanks. The name is primos. I'm just wondering about our role here. I love the name. It's been explained. It's meaningful. It's successful. It's high time. But is this just sort of like a you know, we're brother stamping this to the side. There's no way we can disappoint those kids. Video, you guys are the 1st to see this video, so it hasn't been released publicly to take vote on it. It happens in this case it was incredibly strong. Community consensus. There could be another project down the road. But it's competing names, all different community devices asking different names and excuse me. This one device

[62:00] I would still just offer this like a naive new Board member, and again love the name would have voted for it, thanks to the explanation last time in any case. And again, it's high time I grew up here. I can think another part that is so named. but it feels like it's been communicated to the community that that's already the name. And if they're well, those children before saying that, so it just feels a little backward, even if that's the strong consensus, there should be the sense of, yeah. we want this. You better approve it instead of it's already been approved. Yeah, I think the video might have been a little confusing, because we're intending, if you all take some positive action on this, to release that later this week all of these people on the video do know that it's recommended. And, in fact, I think most of the little kids playing in the creek have absolutely no idea and let them pay attention to us, even if we said this.

[63:02] I appreciate it, Charlie. I would just emphasize that the 3 community connectors in particular, who were a part of the video and that have spoken to you previously have. w. 1 of their most important roles for us is to communicate our process and status back and forth, so that they fully understand where we are and help the community understand that. And so they are. In fact, we just had a meeting with them at 4 o'clock this afternoon, and where we were reiterating yet again that tonight you're taking formal action on it. So they've been our liaison in that communication. Back and forth. I I appreciate it just like from what Mark was saying like in this case, it's super easy and joyful, but if there was a tough one, and people had expectations that their side, or whatever was, gonna get it. Yeah, bro. Just since there is a significant, there's different. There's a lot of diversity in the communities around this part that the explanation would be translated. Not that's weird.

[64:01] Eric or Jay. Have any questions. Thank you so much for all your hard work. I look forward to meeting. I don't do mine much that's like. alright! Let's enjoy those improvements. Is there a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to name the neighborhood avenue for the most part. for a second. Second. Sometimes. Okay, let's have both of her. I alright. Hi. And any opposed thankful great. Thank you. And thank all your hardworking staff. Very clear number in the period. And great video to video. Okay. So we move on to matters for the departments. Is this the how you take the phone over should be Jason got you.

[65:02] All right. Just to be clear. This item is a discussion item which just procedurally, you will take action on this item as we discussed in setting the agenda. And so a discussion item is just the formal indication that there's an opportunity to discuss it. To give your feedback because your input will inform the final budget that you consider at the July meeting. Jackson Height is our business services manager. He is presenting this item, and it represents a whole lot of work by a whole lot of people. And we look forward to your conversation. As always said, I'm Juxtane services manager. I know that I've been here. You all are muted in the room just to note. Testing. You were talking, Jackson. I don't think. You hear us? Nothing. but you can't hear Ellie. Good. It's good.

[66:03] Always then check the advert. So Jackson, high business services manager. As I said. this is the 4th month we're talking about this as that I mentioned. We will be coming back next month for an action item within. The charter has one more capability recommending a operating budget for the appropriations for the permanent participation for City Council and Pedro. Entire sales team. How about me? Just try to identify all of the touches of the cloud. This is an online process during February. Well, actually that. But around December, so thank you for your patience as we get through this Marathon, and as obviously there have been multiple staff. We don't touch this. So once again. I think your packet. We talked through the departments budgets. we have 2 scenarios. And this is really because we are continuing to work with our partners in central budgets. The finance department, the Executive Budget team.

[67:08] The project review team. There are so many internal stakeholders that would be in this budget at the same time, straight through it. This mirrors what other departments and other boards are done. So what we have is 2 different scenarios scenario. One is really focused on our most fiscally constrained version. This would maintain service levels and fund cost increases for existing contracts and services. There are 4 fixed term positions within the budget that are set to expire this year. and unfortunately those positions would not be included in this scenario. Our preferred recommendation is staff is scenario 2. In this we would convert 6 ongoing positions currently into ongoing. There's 3 staff associated with our major program. We would actually expand that every major program to a total of 5 positions because of how this helps us with coverage plus the system.

[68:01] and then, additionally. senior landscape architecture with our CPU this scenario also addresses minimum wage and compression issues. But at the statewide level. Expected actions with overcoming in order for us to remain competitive workbooks. once again maintains our current level of services, and then those scenarios really focus on increase increase spend on Cfp what we found is we had 3 projects that were partially funded never really amount to meetings and change that the community will see we have taken funding out of those projects. You know. We put it towards refreshes because we think that this will have a bigger impact for people to see us. And it's putting those dollars to us has a better use. Outside of this. We do have to get community culture resilience and safety tax funding those voters in 2021 to focus on city area phase 2, the poster mall

[69:03] I recognize that both of these scenarios are really the thesis rather fiscally constrained. And that's the environment that we are in. As I shared with you last month. We are seeing platinum sales use tax. And then there's statewide concern about property tax getting any legislation. So we do, highlight. What scenario one looks like. you will see that the major areas are red are decreases. The years of increases are really tight. It's more time funding with not straightforward, between 24 and 6.5, and then I'll also give you my cake as we've talked with you about previously. We do have fluctuations in Cic. Spend year over year, and this is really tied to when we're doing projects. In 2,020 we had a significant spend associated with stuff that they pulled the reservoir at a slower time period. As we are starting to plan finance projects.

[70:04] So in Scenario 2, you will see a very similar outlook. This once again has the large decrease associated safety. And once again that's tied to changes and fluctuations. There is a small increase in general fund, and this is really attributed to. but I'll arrange it for them. And I recognize that seeing these decreases is really hard to visualize. So we do have a back end to 2019. This shows in 2019 or 2019, we pay for 2 of our largest Vip projects doesn't work visitor services center as well as the stock market. In 2020. We did have a decrease in spending as we went into the pandemic, and a further decrease in 24 you will see the 24 s. Budgets. We have right above that to a very high level. What we found at a city wide level is that this level of spending is not sustainable, and that's why we do so

[71:07] lowered protected expenses in scenario one you want to highlight that this does not account for any cost, estimation, or inflationary impacts. But it really is aligned with all of our department. Are there any questions on? Why is the Ccrs such a dramatic, decrease. sister? That's design the last slide that you had showed. This is really tied to any kind of we're going through. The different phases of construction service. So Ccos is under project specific. we can get there and update the safety portion. Essentially, we are in the design phase right now. Once we ask the design phase, we'll get into the instruction instruction is, gonna be you'll see the biggest cost.

[72:02] But right now, design phase, it should be about 10 to 20% that you're essentially is, we have time for it. We just haven't. We're spending 4 days this up. and then 25%. It is good. This is normally, it's like, say. it's primarily she's eating. Finding the sales tax is really just just making sure to make sure what we're seeing is revenues convened by our custom past escalation. So sales password is happening about 2% a year right now. That's what driven by tourism spending as it was available. Obviously. 2 second. So I'm all. I'm a little user, friendly, pretty fast for me here. And I'm recognize I'm new to this board. Yeah, I'm trying to understand this budget thing because it takes up 4 months of our time. And I really think it must be important. So okay. So

[73:08] the the sales tax you're saying is actually is declining. Are you predicting it to decline? Are you predicting? Like I? I'm just trying to understand this, because what about the prime effect here, you know, like we, what I'm hearing on the street is that boulders doing very well? And so I'm wondering why we're we're projecting at the finance sales tax is growing. But it's growing at 2. And our expenses are growing a year. Okay, so we have less of a $4. Okay, so sales tax. It's actually growing. But your expenses are growing better and greater. Okay, that's so that's 1 of the issues. Okay? And then I just want to go back through these 2 different scenarios. So you prepare 2 different scenarios, and the main differences is that one funds the urban Ranger program. and converse them from term positions to ongoing. Is that correct? And and what is? Where does that money come from?

[74:05] That money is coming from the point 2 5 cent sales tax. Okay? So 45 cents, those taxes, a dedicated fund for parts integration. That's what we're okay. The general fund would be taking up to see some more positions that would be converted to. Okay. So what is ongoing is that like A is that like a permanent position? That's now cause I'm I'm kind of wondering where we're in this fiscally constrained environment. Why are we bringing on permanent, more permanent employees? And so it seems like that's what I'm trying to understand the Urban Ranger program started. Yeah, it was treated as one time. However, it would be a 12 month pilot. That funding wasn't Sunday for 23 and 24, 7. We have now known this one time for 9, 3 different years. We have seen such a difference in departments,

[75:01] units, and operations as far as employees that we think that it is worth messing. It's his issue. Okay? So yeah, that comes at a cost. Right? Like, correct. Okay. I will say, just, I don't know the urban rangers. Yeah, okay, yeah. I don't know too much about it. I just you know, to understand these scenarios and the and then the other. The scenario also then wipes out the travel equipment budget for the next year, or something like this decreases the amount that you have great questions. Other questions. Well, my follow up would be just as I mean, we can arrange this before. But prior meeting, but sometimes, having a permanent, you know. Just follow that up to really appreciate that

[76:02] sometimes hiring a permanent position actually save money. So, not having turnover up, down, you know, ramping up, ramping down so. But you seem to indicate that it would be more expensive. So it is more expensive right now. muncher people, and they're off, David. There's a 6 week ramp up for required training. It's just more expensive. They're not doing it. There's a $30,000 difference having this program ongoing. the amount of time that they system is worth that enabled as well. having been able to identify savings that are associated with capitalist employees. Generally speaking, since 2021, we are seeing $100,000 a year. So yeah, I wasn't just being tracked. Primarily civic area. Does it be eclipse? We have seen a decrease in the overall.

[77:02] The analyst still does occur in so hard to project that what we are seeing is in the year numbers. Then. Eric, do you ever get any math part of this program? Just not a little bit bigger than perfect? Maybe that's yeah. Last year one of my understanding spoke. So we go to the slide. I want these like the history of this budget or the budget over sign here. So so you're saying, the budget basically started. Why? Because it takes hundreds of 19. But and so we're kind of at this 43.3 million dollars. Right? That's what you're projecting. This is more fiscally constrained than we were in 2024, the reality of 2024 is, there's a lot of saving spend. So, for example, that's a 9 million dollar project that is still not up.

[78:01] So a lot of his spending. It's okay. And we'll go through those 5% discipline. and the downturn is the covid. And we saw that 2020 really wasn't. Thank you very much, and works new staff, who were later there. Several packages that really happen through the year before we saw. How does that compare to break this table in within the plan, which is, you know. generally speaking, the table and plan identifies we should be spending 23 to 23 on there, I believe. and that was in 2022 numbers. So we haven't updated that for inflation. So okay, let's try. Yeah, I study 3.3. So we don't have increased our budget.

[79:04] what we will see on the later site is, there's only for a transition specific projects. So those are the Ccis projects. But we do continues to have underfunding across the board for administration. Budget's going up, but not enough. Never know. Right? Okay. great time. So this really focused on the expense side you already touched on the revenue side sales tax is not running at the same rate as our expenses. Property tax. Well, property taxes 2022 is with 6 24. It's projected to come down again. Credit is important. That's fishing something that we do have before you have nothing also got it.

[80:02] Something that we do have control over is things within services that we do from there. So last year this Board adopted policy, and then a few schedule within that we said what the Cost recovery service offer. Looking through our initial system 2025 to update that. So please the golf fees and commercial use. And such he's written. They're under issue, being right handed possibility the area where certain ways. So that's why we're choosing to focus on support. The fee policy itself has 10 different categories. See? Increases across the board. It's not rage. It's best to put this on their list that have the greatest impact. Monday. Or you know those establishments. What would you? What would be the total number like.

[81:02] if you're looking to increase those fees, what would be the annual number that you would be looking to bring in from that? Generally speaking, we put a growth $250,000 a year. We've got about 10 to 12 months. Very good button. So it's $150,000, 2% increase factor, some broker programs. And there isn't ties on. So I know that. Let me do that on this board to really focus on these. what we really do see is this is policy revenue drivers that are in the works. So we are working on business plans for another business plan. We're hopeful that by having all of these identifies where you invest in what has the biggest thing for that just continuing.

[82:02] So with Eth process, we would come back to this board to 1st time in a session meeting with you. Action item. All their patient fees are separated from city February. So it goes through the rest of the city. It goes through a public notion process. There's a fuel process in the let's say. our intention would be to update the fees in January. 2 months video back to you that if there's reasons. this is on our very hard making changes. And and it's like in the staff is really not increasing across the board. To me it's meant to access to voluntary programs as far as super, Saiyan. See, there's a new people with disabilities. and what's the last one increase?

[83:01] Need a increase. Last year. January this. that was really the 1st time we have had this company. So we took 3,000 fees and simplified it down to about 240, so we didn't have it stay still. So I think this is really this entire conversation. I just focus on the long term financial strategy. You will see any attached company chores that there's expenses. So we do have 1, 6, 3 months, 2 of I don't for the whole 5 years. So 3, 2030. What we've seen is in our recreation side treating as a company enterprise, but also secure. So we are from the business team when the business €2,000

[84:01] and wasn't each other. and unfortunately, just like the costs. increases and no other materials. We are seeing that it is further so. Citywide is a long term strategy, and that is supposed to be so. We recognize that as a department we have certain where our funds are dedicated funds. Let's identify what services that wouldn't. Is it be turned off or decreased you should find increase over time. So our hope is after this summer's operations. We really look at the social security targets and align. It is weapons and tenses next year to get fancy recreation pension software. get basic money cost recovery software with us. really, some kind of choices there when

[85:02] so in terms of the city wide, long term financial strategy. There's a 5 part process that really looks at how. Listen, he's going on everything. The timeline, for this is still a little uncertain. But yeah, earlier 17, which will remind he performs engineers, updates, and outcomes with the other one. We've already done a hard study. But there are some university departments that place that there will be a comprehensive session. Yes. the city wide level. There's also a desire to understand service levels are, the current plan identifies actually pushing other ways. But, as we can see right now. I didn't mean obviously, concerning it seems like there is a village that needs to be adjusted as far as whether or services to be offered. and because this would be a Cdi process that would be significant engagement

[86:05] policies. This could be done. It works in that option to generate. So we recognize that this budget is very satisfied. There's nothing terribly we're excited about. We want to be very honest as far as preparing for over in 2020, prior to February 26 already touched on any recreation management software. Every our asset management program will be determined. A lot of our cip. You'll see that as an omission is over 50% of what we do pricing. We are working with the advanced office on the companies of grain strategy. East Water Community Center, or at the facility renovation. Even there is an opportunity to get better revenues and expenses. And what

[87:04] Reprove that in that facility I would say, we have gone through all the different. There's probably one position, is it? We don't have funding for? We're not even identified. Position takes position to write an assessment. And then with that we recognize that we are under funded in terms of our safety as well as our ongoing operations, that we do want to work best methods to automatically appropriate nice to have another Christmas. So we have a number of trees that we take there is increased by 10,000 in the last 7 years. We obviously want to happen, of course.

[88:03] Where's 1 month? Where's your dad? This is the next. Everything score such media events. So so that's really it on the operating budget. This does go to the CIP. But one second out for a question here. Just have any questions on that to operate anybody. All right, Mark and I are going to talk to me. This part. The CIP is focused on the next year for appropriations. But Israel. this gives us the sufficient time to plan. Were what's coming next. And with that, Cmp is really focused on department plan.

[89:00] We try to projects as well as the analytics. different finance members that so, as I mentioned earlier, we do. friend, is, you know, a little bit strongestly constrained. You saw this slide last month where green is funded underfunding and diabetes 7. You can see generally a possibility specific areas to literacy, one time funding from the community that represents 2 CRS. That's in 21. So that's why we are able to switch international simple in terms of facility. Once again, across the board. Real area where we are is that what's studying? What's nice? isn't something that we can just with this functionality right tomorrow. This is a 6 year calendar. That's the

[90:03] cip is over within the department plan as well as the Federal Investment Strategy Review last year breaks it. Be down to 3 of them as a management is better. That's 1st generation facilities is really focused on those facilities and those various updates. just one aspect and compass the entire property. And then system planning is really about 5 to 7 good as far as what it is we can do to hopefully better otherwise understanding funding levels required for this, you have those 2 something that we really rely on is the equivalent designs. Part of 22 equipment I am for the more frequently colors are areas that we're significant

[91:00] under investor comparisons that we wanted to do for their investment. These were based on 4 different factors that are described in the 22 different. those treatment, financial aid obligations. This kind of it's time to maybe pensions. So what you'll see is marketing has done a very good job. What projects really align with those areas learning lesson. So if I come up earlier. see, there has been spear there. So we're very happy to test there Naples hand disable some all schools and the Ferry Junction central area. And then we are doing asset management throughout secondary design. It's what it makes sense. You just read the the key purple green one of those neighborhood status. Clearly.

[92:06] integrity. I don't. Very good. And that note wouldn't the Belmont part that's not funded more lines than the that's simple thing like the over the junction. This is what goes right here. So my screen there. Yeah. is definitely adjacent to that one before at the moment just after that, and do through a separate funding mechanism. Okay? Isn't yellow skin. It's already funded as an additive main service parts, for example. nice. And unfortunately, southeast as

[93:01] project. That's from. That's a chance that we can't use. not funded. So with that, this slide really focuses on our asset management program. So taking care of what we have. Last year we identified 11 different asset types. That we have across the system. And instead of telling you exactly. we're going to invest. By focusing on a specific asset, we are able to look at the condition index of those assets and determine where the funding would have the greatest impact to include the quality of the works. So we have, fairly consistent funding across the board. Here we have changed the funding around slightly. So you'll see that historic property has decreased. We've increased the amount for the shelters and bathrooms as well as general maintenance.

[94:03] I was really just until I'm on our Internet. What's forestry? I guess I'm confused. 4 streams treated as a capital asset. Because it ensures everything. So this is really just focused on one of So we're on a 7 to 10 year Portion conference. and this is the party. So then, moving down the list, I it was on previous slide. We do have the parking system. Wide plans. The really big priority projects are the 3 1 5. Now. So there is additional funding beyond this 2.9. This is just what we Pleasant view Foundation. You heard about that in December. It's something that we've done by shifting. Find

[95:00] projects that you can. Only time was adding input refreshes if I wouldn't be part of your best for something but downtown and then we do have very little funding set aside for our system. What about that part that that was presented room is, that is, that they talk a lot about fundraising for that one? Are they doing most of that privately? So that is a book already. And that was really a potential donation from an organization to add an interpretive garden to kind of talk about why the park is called so. It's really just a small piece of the park that we would like to turn into an interpreter garden with some hard work. And

[96:03] so it's not. It's not part of the park renovation. It's not already. If that'll be funded by the German. Alright. Alright, thank you. Is Parker Park. That little tiny farm is right next to the people. So they're gonna spend like for the whole person to facilitate. You're spending half a million. And then for that one tiny little part of their thing. 1, 3 of them. So didn't click the 1st part of the day which one you're comparing to Pleasant View versus partners like the area of Pleasant View and the number of users. And it's a good point. This is just one question. Last one, we showed the phone total budget. I think this is just what approving tonight. So I believe doesn't use. This is transitory.

[97:03] And another thing I'll call out is, playgrounds are significantly more expensive than just requests, and so that somebody comes along. And a simple example of that is that one. 2 million right? That's why I develop the support on like basic piece of poplar, do you think. make assignments? So to help you visualize the spend. We are proposing 9.3 million spend in 2,025. Watch him try. It really indicates where the spend is coming from the colorful numbers on the left are what the Department's dedicated funds are. So that's the 25

[98:00] per person and other things. These are identified in the department plan is what we have consistently here every year. Everything on the right is really quite a specific related use of that resource. So Boulder Junction, Pocket Park display pocket pro actually is the beginning for us. I. Ccrs. because it makes prostate more one other project. He's fine. He's fine, thank you. And then within this we've identified what the funding is across the 2025 to 2036. I don't know if this slide excludes these audio. Ccrs. Ccls is very specific. and there's a different budgeting process. But we do have different side. There is money associated with post renewal where everything else is on the left side.

[99:01] But you'll see that from harsher. very citizen puppy in Texas that are paid for by all property owners and sitting on its 19 licenses tax, which is dedicated. So is it kind of like 10 million a year that wears 9 to 10 million a year. So 5.9 excluding Ccrs with Ccrs Regina. And if you look at the Federation plan. there's something. see what? It was right harm. And then, as I talked about earlier, what we really focus on is the asset management. So you'll see asset management affirmative. The present migration facilities just because we refactor looking at the refreshers is rather high. we spend about 2% of the policy.

[100:02] So 55 million a year. Basically, it's up to, I believe, 5 point increase compared to the 24 through 29. Stately. That's really just the fiscal change. So Ccrs does have an additional 74 and a half months. Budget reports this money was approved by city council last year, with the 20 developments. $450,000 for Global Creek. So they do. East phase 2 is the team on them. 2 27. The post right now the question has 2.1 5. Listen, please find me. But since there is in the downtown business district. recreation centers are incredibly expensive to Friday. So 53 moment majority of us is tied to the State Senator. There is some funding tied to future locations and improvements.

[101:02] and we know that that is not a very substantial source of. and that's whether it leads into the long term stretch. So I know that the team scram. We do keep a webinar funded budgets. So this is everything that's we still want to get into. We have a lot of tools to track with this development plan. just tracking our email, spend on asset management with that questions or input on them. So is a peaceful direct Center project begun just we have consulted that facilities department.

[102:05] Okay, the contract is just signed, and then Wednesday. and with their info about the Marker Park refresh some more details. I was just sort of following up, I mean, you know, I grew up playing in that park among many others. But it is really small, and I'm just curious how wouldn't give me that much money to refresh the market, and what I do with it, so I don't know. A good example is that typical player is now invited $13. So, as you can see, about 50,000 fully replace. It's really just maintaining

[103:15] the assets. We have right, the refreshing parts and facilities. There's not. It's not new capital projects. And that isn't. However, that is the example of a service area. Oh, historically and represented community building that the right services. So you know, building some new technically. But think about just making sure to make sure we would rather. And in the underfunded areas seems like there is a fair amount that we're not taken care of. Then

[104:02] I think, realistically, this number has bounced around. But what would that receive? So yes. But yeah, it's 1 of our goals is to spend. We started last year this year. especially for some of the 25. We should come back next year. More realistic numbers on this. So we're including our subsequent program. Again. replacement value the cost and also the process between their. So I just, you know, you know not. I'm getting a better understanding of this stuff. But I just wonder, like the vision ideas and these other things we're never going to get those right. Those I mean at the point like, unless we look at this differently, or unless there's like, do you ever look at the vision and then try to work backwards. You know what I mean, or we're, you know, we're kind of just treading water here, keeping what we got right. And so like, is there a group that like says, Well, I mean, I think the public wants. They want the new shiny things they want to see their tax money going to new facilities and new stuff and improvement. And

[105:12] what I'm hearing is that you know, we're just treading water. But we've gotten. and I think that needs to be communicated. I mean, maybe you know, maybe there's a different way to look at it like a new tennis and aquatic facility. You know we're not. We're not gonna entertain that at this point unless there's separate working group that and work backwards. And I think we do communicate that we're underfunded. We're trying to maintain. But nobody has to hear that nobody. Yeah. And then no, to verify the reason. It's and I might want to speak to this for part of identifying what our current professional values and cost of the system is to say, do we have the right type of mechanism for potential bonding or private fundraising to better support the system, now that it's maturing and the cost of management system. So whose role is that to to look at that holistically and say, Okay, you know.

[106:07] and communicate that to the people, to the council, whoever, and to to get these ballot measures and to get the public to actually understand that and see these needs here. One of the things that we do as a as a path is, we send a letter every year to council like that happened, I think, just before you rejoin We asked for a couple of we have to pay attention a couple of things, one of which with rest centers. Yeah, they respectfully decided not to pick up any issues with the risk. And so that's like as to the extent that we are a virtual group. That's an area where we perhaps had more influence over the State or more potentially council, find our own sources somehow, like 2 players. Yeah, yeah, I mean, certainly. I'm sure that Allie would very happy brought her 10 million dollars a year. The money doesn't just arrive plan and like, sometimes you need to work backwards, have decision. And then

[107:04] I'm going to need that vision. Yeah, definitely. you know. Cause I love this plan, but I just feel like we're never going to get to the the 3.rd The second and 3rd columns in here, because we're so busy working on the 1st column right like. I do have some comments to offer really to help frame the conversation, and also just to respect the agenda that you all have tonight. So what I'm hearing is an interest in understanding more about this long-term financial strategy. And just to be clear, we're not content. Sitting back, I heard you use the term treading water. It's pretty frustrating, right? We are charged with delivering to the community, and we're doing our best. I do want to correct something. When I when I heard you say the community, Eric, I think you said the community wants the shiny and new. Some folks want some shiny and new what? What we know to be true from 2 planning processes where we pull the entire community. 1st and foremost, they do want us to focus on taking care of what we have. And that's why you see that prioritization and the funding that. No, we're not going to build new things when we have other things that are in poor condition. And so that's the focus of the dollars. But as we look ahead and really, over the next 2 years, we have 3 strands of work underway to address this gap. One is around additional revenue

[108:18] that we think can generate revenue more than they are, and they're working on developing business plans. We're also working on a marketing plan to be more strategic. I don't think the government should operate like businesses, because businesses don't do what we do, but we could do what businesses do, and being more thoughtful about our marketing. And I know, Bernie, you had a great conversation with Scott, so revenues is one grants, and philanthropy is another. Later tonight, if we have time, you're going to hear an update, we have a whole stream of work underway for that. And I'm actually in Seattle, hearing from some of the best minds in the country about how they do this all over. These are things that work. And we're building that maturity play. And it's work is critical. They are stable and they're growing. And they're they're in

[109:00] a position to help us. The 3rd stream is what you've mentioned around ballot measures. We hear the community, some asking for more. And so over the next 2 years, and through various planning projects. We're going to say, Okay, what are those things cost? What is it that you want more of? What is that cost? And then we will go to the community and say, Are you willing to pay cause? There's no secret money tree? There's no money sitting around just waiting to implement wishes, and so it will be a community question. But all of that work I know this is probably, especially as a new board member. It's not an it's it's a status quo budget. It may, but that's that's a win. If you map out, the budget changes over the last 6 years. we we actually are flat at funding since 2019. It looks like it's grown, but when you account for inflation it stayed fairly flat. So the fact that we're not reducing services. We're pretty excited about cause it shows real thoughtfulness for our team, about how they're managing cost for escalation, how they're scheduling, how they're operating, that we are not at a at a reduction. But we do have some work cut out for us, because we're not going to be able to maintain it. Given this gap and increases and expenses. So

[110:06] all that to say, I'm certain you all have a lot of interest and comments to talk about revenue, and whatever you have a very rich agenda ahead of you. And so if perhaps there are topics you want to deep dive on, we could calendar those for agenda setting, and give you more information. Decide for my goodness regarding safety is and other feedback. I mean, I guess I'm just still wondering about like we were talking about board positions, or whatever there is sort of a secret money, which is that boulders insanely wealthy town that's no longer reflected in that the so much of tax base moved elsewhere. But there will be individuals here and funding zoom. You know, we all know multimillionaires and probably billionaires in town.

[111:03] and I'm just still curious about why we're not going after that aggressively or in some way trying to write this budget, because it's shocking. I mean shocking, not shocking to hear that much. It's essentially same as 2019, I mean, for I mean, you guys are doing incredible job. If that's the case and just helping get out of the cycle. Wayland just to be really clear. That is the work of play, and that is their role to help us fundraise in that way more so than government can. So and again, just to to put a fine point on that question. If I'm not sure I know you were gonna meet with Angie to hear about their work, but I'm thinking, In August or September it might be not August. You're doing the tour, perhaps, for your September agenda, we could give you an overview of that philanthropy work and the capital campaigns that play will be leading for us over the next year. So their current Mou. And I don't know. Brian Berry actually, Brian's not available. But I'll just tell you we expect them to be leading capital campaigns and work to address some of this gap, and that's something we could calendar for September. If you want to learn more about it.

[112:13] does that. Love it. Yeah, I endeavor sooner. and maybe no, I'm gonna ask. I mean, I think we've been meeting individually, some of us. But yeah. It just feels like. maybe that would make everyone's jobs easier if you could do more. And maybe we can't do more. And we've already done everything, and we'll come back in a few months and go in groups. But thank you. Cool. So I just wanna highlight next steps. As I mentioned, we will be coming back next month for the path to to an action item. There are 3 different things much better that we're looking for pretty new like month operating budget, including the capital expenditures.

[113:04] then Cfd. so if there are any questions between now, when you'd like to hear in advance. really have a point be based on what we heard tonight. What is there a reason why we're not doing that tonight? Our simple practice is we do a discussion items first.st So you have the background information. You can answer any of the questions that you have. and I will respond to any of the questions of the product tonight. Village doesn't have cleaner. And then you read it. And you say, I'm doing questions. And we say, Yeah. okay, that's what it says, what's gonna change between now and July, though. Really nothing we can address in writing some of the concerns that were brought up tonight. questions and feedback. So. I have my hand up. I just wanna make sure we don't move on. I have. I have a quick question about the budget.

[114:00] That's like. The refresh on Pearl Street. I definitely haven't walked down Pearl Street with an eye of what needs refreshed. but it certainly doesn't jump out at me as like, wow! It's in disrepair. And I'm just curious. Are we looking for things to refresh? Or are there some serious repairs or concerns that. You're you're planning to address, or or could that money go towards other smaller projects that might have a bigger impact. Funny. No. Appreciate the question. That's a great example of an underfunded project yesterday. It's a 50 year old Hill Street Mall. Yes, 50 year olds in 2,027. It's got real aging infrastructure. But I mean about that is yeah, not the shiny stuff like trees, or some of the wonderful outdoor cafes. It is the underlying utilities, etc, that we need to look into, and we estimate it between 8 and 10 million with the current funding level. So it really is just taking care of what we have there to keep it functioning. And hopefully, that's a great example where

[115:09] private funding or philanthropy working with. They do that has helped supplement some of the work needed in that area. And because it's it important business modesty as we're talking about around the 20 to 25% of all sales tax dollars prosper. Right? So it makes sense to want to work. Isn't the 2 of us this question just following up on that email that we got above the hill, is there any money in sip for the hill agreements that we're discussing. Planters were an issue. They have these mud pits on the hill with 2 new hotels going in there, a lot of visitors. It's a blighted zone. As everyone knows. I can. Let me speak to that. Let me begin an update on the Civic Area project. The Civic Area Project does include Albany and path.

[116:02] So that's the one connection. And this is obviously the remit of parkland, not, you know, transport with aspects of it our planning and design aspects of it, and they'll be looking into that program. Meanwhile. on the whole week of time doesn't have the same business. Yeah, I just feel like we're getting for a lot of money across the Mall is great, but then the bill, like I don't want to know, and it's you know I agree with that, you know. I mean, it's really pretty sad. But it was. It was an amazing era. I was wondering if if there's any small amount of money we could do to take it through. It's there, hey?

[117:02] I just want to chime in that. Anna had reached out and asked that we provide a follow up on this item to the board, and we were going to bring that up at the agenda, setting for the next meeting. Only what I can tell you in 30 seconds is that there is a whole lot of work happening around supporting the vibrancy of the hill. The research is pretty clear for both Pearl Street and the hill that for every dollar you invest in your downtown cores there's a $7 return on investment. We know there's some deteriorating infrastructure. I've been working with my colleagues in utilities and transportation and mobility and community vitality. And there's a group called the Community Connectors. So we have a whole lot of work, both short term and long term outlined. Some of it connects to, as Mark mentioned, with the sever area, but some of it is broader and and so I'd be happy again. It's it's not. It's more than a 30 second conversation. I hear your interest in the topic, and we'd be happy to give a report out we could. We could include it as a consent, right up in in July. And then, if you have questions, you certainly be available for questions.

[118:03] Right? Yeah, I'm super curious about, you know. I know the difficulty. I think we discussed it with the trees, and you know anything we put in like protecting it as well retrieves up there in the last 10 years, and for obvious reasons we didn't want to replace them. And then the Arboretum got vandalized pretty severely, and I haven't seen like the basic stuff you do, and trees are cut up to try to heal those trees whenever it's dead. you know. Anyway, it'd be great to hear more. And I do live on the hill, and and there's no dog park anywhere. I don't think and I was wondering if, because the new hotel is advertising, that's dog friendly of going down the arboretum path at the base where there's all it's now all fenced off to try to as soon to try to keep the homeless situation out of there. I don't know if that could be

[119:00] just where the Chamber plans to feed a small dog park at the base of the Arboretum pat. we will But it's part of the Logic area project. It's that's when we'll be bringing back the community engagement forward. So on September just seems like that would be welcoming for those who bring dogs to the hotel alone, male community that has no dog park. We do have a big new sign, saying, no dogs off. They should be cemetery. Alright. So we're going to continue with the budget process. As I mentioned, there's multiple internal city review processes. This will be possible in September case study session, and then the 1st reading beaten. So thank you for your questions and input we will come back to you next month. Ask me for the agreement that didn't help us now.

[120:03] Okay, thanks, Jackson. And I'm like that number for questions. We want to. Course. if you're ready volunteers. one brings awesome talking about a different subject. Our tennis and pickleball court system deployment and I'm Charlotte and Briggs and Mark to support this process as has Ali so they're here to answer questions as well

[121:01] like. We have still not remembered a public listing. Yes, and this will be recorded as well. So so tonight we're here to talk mainly about the indoor service delivery models. That was as part of this plan. So definitely, it's just to to what the folks talked about earlier. This is that this evening? Before we delve into that, I just wanna go back to our bigger picture, especially for newer board members. We've been talking to the cloud about this plan for just over a year now. and we're nearing bed, as you can see, the big yellow arrow. This is really the last major chapter that we're bringing to the prab in depth. We talked with you a little bit about indoor here and there, including in March, when you're here to talk about the overall gap and service. We have it looking to build 22

[122:00] additional tennis courts between ports within the next 10 years, to really meet the level of service that hasn't been addressed of. And that's great. We're focusing back in on potential indoor facility. So so we're really looking at what Vpr's role is in. So the history is that Vtr. Has not supplied indoor courts in the past, but has been provided by the private sector the better. The millennium by Rocky Mountain Penn Center, as you heard a lot about, was the primary provider but as this, both the supply changes within boulder and the demand for these sports change. It's appropriate for boulder parks and reps to look for solutions and see what role could play changing landscape. We do not expect to provide 100% of tennis and football services. And we're not looking to have a compete, anybody we're merely looking at what's the best way to serve.

[123:08] So with that these are 2 of the guiding questions that we were looking at. Can the community can the city leverage current public and or private assets to create an indoor rapid facility for the older community. and then 2 hopefully doesn't turn off in 20 seconds. We'll find that and then, secondly, what delivery model is the most viable way to achieve the objective of providing facility while balancing factors cost time, market and control facility. So we're really looking at framework strategy. These studies is not a full feasibility. Study of what what this facility might have is exactly what that would awesome talk a little bit more about why, that's part of next steps. But we're gonna dive into those those models and options. So the 1st one is city owned and operating, and the picture here is from the apex center that you heard mentioned that maybe some of you have visited

[124:08] are down in Colorado, and it is owned and operated by the apex, parks and Recreation District and so City owned and operated. This one's pretty straightforward, but the city owns the land, constructs the building and runs the program. Daily maintenance of the facility is what we're talking about here, meaning a pro of this model is, the city has full control to, you know, mission, what programs are there? What the design of the building looks like, etc. Upon is that there is a high cost. It's a high risk for the city going alone. As well as a longer time for bill based on capacity factors. So another option is the public private partnership. This is a picture of the Left Witch Tennis Center, and I should say a rendering of the Left Witch Tennis center that's currently under construction in Memphis, Tennessee. It's a partnership between the University of Memphis and the Memphis Parks and Recreation Department, and it's a bit unique nationally in terms of being this kind of partnership on a scale with a university and parks and recreation permit.

[125:20] This model. Public and private partnership in this case means a partially or fully city owned and constructed building that a partner that operates. So there's, as you can imagine, quite a scale of how much of a stake of ownership. A partner might have in the building versus how the partner is operating it, depending on what our needs and the partners needs are a pro is that there would be some control still for the city through such a partnership. And there's a possible additional expertise that the partner is bringing to the center. Some of the cons are, while the financial risk may be lower and the time to construct, maybe a bit faster. Both remains similar to the 1st option.

[126:06] So a 3rd option is a ground lease and management agreement. This is a picture of the Parker Racket Club in Parker, Colorado. Despite its name of club. It is actually a publicly accessible facility. So you do not need to be a member there. What a ground lease and management agreement means in this case is that a 3rd party provider would own and operate the facility approach. This is, there's potentially strong interest in the community and expertise for this type of this type of relationship. There's less cost and financial risk to the city. But of course, that the city loses control over the type of programming, and maybe as well as as you can always design construction. So this may also cause the city to lose flexibility, to adapt in the future to community needs. So let's say, there's a new pickle ball that emerges. How would we have this facility potentially adapt to that? We have less control over whether they're building a new kind of court.

[127:09] and it could also lessen our flexibility in terms of investing other indoor facilities, including the most facility that could include. even if the resources and time, etc, are going into a rapid, specific facility. So in looking at those 3 options, recommendations that are coming out of the court system plan are one actually to continue to be opportunistic and considered short-term or midterm options, specifically at least, for a bubble. So the courts that are there now, which is what's pictured do not accommodate a bubble for a variety of reasons, including that the foundation does not have the strength, or the anchor points to support such a bubble structure. You can imagine that's a lot of attention pulling pulling on the foundation. But as the plan is recommended.

[128:01] that's the initial site where courts will be added. That could be something that's considered in that new construction. If, then, a donor and a partner is willing to provide a bubble, and we can reach an agreement about how that bubble could be operated. Yes, you have a question on the short term. Something you discussed is like. so you want to avoid the environment impact. We want that midterms for them. A bubble group and yours then, will be by then we'll have 30 facility in that area that could definitely be one scenario, and and that is one of the questions that a feasibility, full feasibility, study with not the same concerns. How have public technologies improved, and do they therefore meet the better standards that forward pass in the past? The one in pharmacies for involved in, for instance, but the technology hasn't reached since then. So that's definitely something to look at. And I will say a bubble is very different for an aquatic facility than it is for a tennis center.

[129:02] So maintaining water temperature and keeping that heat in in to keep your energy consumption down for a pool. it's it's much more difficult to do with a full-fledged structure is that we put a bubble that don't keep it. We're don't put it enough, but we're gonna have. Well, that is why you're telling us to develop. He doesn't go. I'm sure there'll be more research into that out. I just wanted to mention that it's it's just very different for aquatics than it is for tennis. So as we get into a feasibility study and look at that more in depth, we'll be able to see if it's if it is feasible. And I think kind of what we're saying is when it's opportunistic is we know we don't have the funding to put a bubble date right? The opportunistic means. Is there someone coming to the table with us? And then that will look a lot of different ways. So you won't see a lot of evaluation in here because it doesn't make sense to do about evaluation. If you don't have a person at the table. Yeah, having that negotiation, and then you would have to, you know, work through what that agreement looks like. And in the plan, what you see is, you know how an evaluation

[130:08] in terms of the tense level that they're and our sustainability, equity, resilience, right? The same sustainability parts of it as you're taking it up and down, you know, you're heating something that's not insulated. But the technology is better so than it has been in the past. So something we review. But maybe we'll see often. How does that fit in, or what can we do with like couple of 1 million dollars to do a bubble for us. What will we say if someone can give us the bubble? What do they want from it? Do they just want to give it to us? Who has operated is one conversation, or do they want to give it to us? And then they want to operate it and manage the revenue? Another conversation. and I see Allie. Unfortunately.

[131:01] Yeah, I wanna chime in here. Cause I think that the wording we're using is unintentionally creating some confusion, and especially for our folks listening in we're not waiting for someone to make us an offer, and then we would consider it right like what what we are gonna do as a next step is an evaluation of, and with the East Boulder community we already have a partnership agreement for tennis instruction in the City of Boulder that you've heard people mention Gonzalo Garcia. He runs Gonzo tennis. He has successfully bid for and been awarded the city's tennis tennis instruction contract since the late 2 thousands. If we were to determine that indoor tennis was something we wanted also to procure a partnership for what we would most likely do. That contract is ending. At the end of this year it could be renewed, but what we could choose to do is to reissue it with an exploration of operating an indoor facility with, or the temporary operation of a bubble, it would have to be a competitive process. And that's why I want to be clear with this word opportunistic. If someone were to email us tomorrow and say.

[132:08] we will give you 5 million dollars, we will build a bubble, and we want to operate tennis for the city of Boulder. That's a business making opportunity that needs to have a competitive process. And so cities are a little limited in their opportunism. And I know that feels like bureaucracy, but the intent is to prevent corruption and to really make fair opportunity. The city land is incredibly valuable. Part of the reason there aren't plethoras of facilities all over town is because of the value of land in boulder, and so such an opportunity would need to go through a competitive bid process. It's being hmm. That's wonderful. Answer your question. Oh, yeah, it's so. It's part of the communication that we're making. or that one could. If what we're listening in public good. that if someone had 5 million dollars to to get tennis open now this winter for everyone who needs it.

[133:04] maybe that should just be a private process, which is for the short term. Not that I want to jump ahead, but what happened with the 79th Street times. So that was rough. and then they tried. you know, totally right away. Is that right? It was some of the same folks, and it was on boarding land I don't know. But if they found, you know, a news folder or something, one of these, like, there's the soccer field, or whatever like you say, like we have the facility. We have money, we have interest. We need it this winter. Private would be the fastest. Yeah, right? But the land wasn't single plan situation. I think they just leased a huge. There's literally a farming process.

[134:00] But yeah, I mean. everything looks fine. It's nice. The other option you can see now is, for example. yeah, he's operating in models. Yes. to students. serious, opportunistic facing. I thought. yeah, we even see that. Actually, I mean, I don't know if you any of your visited border wall. So yeah, we do see that other midterm short term questions before we move on to another longer term. So to develop a long-term funding plan, such as a tax and bond measure, or a level or permanent structure and balance having been identified as the best place in our system for such a facility. and then identify opportunities to develop formal agency government and community partnerships. selling a little bit more left.

[135:00] Oh, question! Sorry. I was wondering how baby people can make the decision like the City of Order, needs to be impacted emergencies like compared to soccer indoor subject. So it was private. You're teeing up number one, just system prioritization. What? We're calling future? That's exactly the question we're trying to answer. What are spaces currently being used at deficits for different activities. What is the demand? Look like for all of our indoor recreation activities? And that's exactly the process. For now. So this project is kind of dovetailing into that bigger picture view. So we've looked at courts. There's a need to look at Tencent at the wall. But now there's a need to really look at this in your piece. Not just reports of all. So that's exactly what our next steps is just to say, is this the right

[136:03] and that, then, could include a feasibility study on what an indoor space might include and also a partnership value exchange exploration, which is a mouthful to really say, looking at mou or intergovernmental agreements, and following the policy guidance that the city has in place. So not just really, really again responding to an email that somebody might offer us. But following those processes that and then forward with time for more questions. But just to back up for the full plan. We'll come back to you in July. Things you've seen from us before, but really, before the deployment of all 10. It's great. So when you say you say the full bit, what do you mean? Yes, design plan, or does. This is what we think we may do potentially in the next 20. Yes, yeah. So folks who heard from us I know this is, I think, our 1st time

[137:14] here meeting with folks in April. So yes, this was really focused on indoor. But the whole plan looks at needs across our system, not just for physical space, and what really what the number and where those might be located. So not specific construction level designs for those, but just where that could be located in our system. But then also programming improvements, improvements to our reservation system, improvements to our maintenance system as well as what we're doing well in all this doing to really meet the demand messers in in tennis and in pickleball. especially the last 5 years, whereas the the last 4 that we install is, I think it was 19, 2 or 19

[138:02] change and we've been investing in them a lot. So it'll cover also our asset management of the ports that we've already started to address by upgrading the concrete there, so that the life sanity ports. As I said, we haven't done anything added any ports since the nineties, I should say and so that concrete is now concrete, that we're using concrete will increase the lifespan now, those ports for 50 years, and we'll see reduce maintenance costs over the course of those 50 years. So that's also probably second. all the different elements of of managing tens of overall. Should you go back to that very 1st time. Yeah. And the money that you guys have put into this so far. And I please tell me if I'm wrong. But the money that was in this budget that we looked at was 400,000. Is that right for this? What we're doing right? Go ahead. So that we invested in this product study plan, which was on the

[139:03] department plans in 2019 work with themselves on that. Yeah. And then what we've recognized is this 400,000. So 2025, and then ongoing years, currently. which we just look out into the future and project continue. And that's for existing codes. It's my team. Okay. that's not the court system. It's called. Yeah, for the call system plan plus analyzed the existing calls to come up with that number and understand the need. And then, on the other side, that there's a level of service to me which you'll see in the golf plan. But, for instance, Tina. I'll be looking at some new calls, for example, pick up on the tennis team the identified, and that will all be in the final breath, and we'll see you next month.

[140:01] Final draft. But final breath. Yeah. final draft. Just at this memo and apologies. We could have added some more slides. If you. If you just click through like the other presentations we've made, it may help graphically, but happy to answer more. Oh, yeah, I just kind of wanted to see. So this is all. I can't really read it. But just my vision's not that right. But I just wanted to kind of try and understand. but more as what? Yeah, thank you. 9 months. They have one plan. So let us know what happens after the plan. I mean. So you know, like, is there an ongoing work group that kind of works with the public to try to take some of these ideas that are identified in the plan and bring them to fruition. I mean, I I love doing plans, but I hate them. Just go sit on the shelf right and so, and it sounds like, we really need to be creative with this.

[141:14] with the score plans, we don't have any funding to do build the course right? So I think that's what you know. Just just be clear when you see the plan has identified additional calls, and you can meet a level of service. So that is, and then that's the thing. You know, we would normally stop to get updates on so much. since it's for the community. then it's we also identify how better to take care of existing calls and actually use payments. And then the indoor facility is probably pointed out earlier. That's the bigger community conversation, partnership conversation. But yeah, where is the funding for that? Where does that happen? And that's the one that plans pointing to. That will be more work. That's ongoing kind of it's discussion exactly just out of curiosity, as far as the relationship between the city or the parks department and our Mtc. Goes. Is there a relationship there? Or is that something that

[142:09] they're just kind of doing their own thing, you know. Like. like, I appreciate everything that the kind of like, Anna said. I appreciate everything the public said tonight, but the same conversation. I hope they're having the same conversation with broad mountains, because they can be at least people. I mean, if you'd like to respond to some of the partnerships we've been working on to think about. Well, I think I mean what I heard. Jenny's question was, I just want to clarify? Was, What is the relationship with the city? And Rmtc. Is that is that the question? They have been consulted as I don't know the stakeholders the right question, but I know Tina and Charlotte and the team have met with them multiple times. Throughout the process. We had talked to the developers of the Millennium project several times, but there is no formal relationship or partnership between the city of Boulder and Rmtc. They've operated as a private entity.

[143:02] Who, you know, while available to the public, with certainly for fees, as all indoor facilities are. It wasn't closed. Like the other 2 indoor facilities are the Boulder meadows and the Boulder Country Club. You have to be a member to go to those facilities where anybody could pay an annual membership and go to Rmtc. And so, when they say they were available to the public. It was through that model, but it wasn't through a public private partnership. Does that answer your question, Jenny? And I'm I'm sorry I can't read faces from so far. But, Jenny, there are definitely these elements here of like the business quote, because because of capitalism, the public has come to us and said, we need a solution. So that's yes, that's kind of important. And then on top of that, then what's the what is the conversations that are happening with. See you? Because I'm curious about. do the boys have an indoor tennis center? Why are we only talking about the girl. I'm happy to take that question because I've been talking to the University of Colorado Athletic Departments. We. We talk to them all the time around serving the community, because while their mission is to promote or to provide division, one athletics, they also are very interested in being great community members here in our city.

[144:14] They have done a lot of work to understand the tennis market for over a year they've been working on it, knowing that their home at the millennium was going away. They do have just a women's tennis team, and it's really around title 9 balance. W. Women's football is only offered for men, and so you need women's sports to balance it out, and I I will let the university speak to that much more eloquently. But I do not believe they have a men's tennis team. There's just women. We've had regular conversations with them, and I do think there's an opportunity for partnership there. When 2 government entities work together, it does not require a competitive process because of the if you think of our joint use agreement with Bvsd. The beginning clarifies that by working together we can serve the community. And I think there's a lot of opportunity. I don't have anything formal to report at this time, but I do think there's some really positive conversations happening.

[145:07] So if we could see you in the city were or yeah, if you in the city were to potentially build a facility that could be open to the public, because it's. Yeah. And I just want to clarify with that. I don't. The the courts at see you South, while certainly a loss. Those have never been open to the community. Rmtc is temporarily operating there through this winter, but prior to that they were for strictly for the University of Colorado tennis access. So while that is a loss of courts, the community has not had access to those prior. So the 3 those 3 options that you brought up in the very beginning were really our 3 best. Yeah, so different ways that we could partner for a different facility if the city were to be involved at all, and such. but just out of curiosity. Do you think that if Rmt. Were to open something like the 79th Street tennis center that would then UN. I don't know if this is ever but unburden the city with this

[146:05] is that the right? I know there's an equity component in there, obviously, because we are responsible to serve the community and whatever equitable way that we can. But if something like that opens that is open to the public, then do we rely on that, or in some? I don't. I see all these unmuted? So I'll. Yeah, I was just, gonna I'm gonna answer this in a way that I hope is helpful. So to develop the 2022 Bpr plan that Jackson whipped out of his backpack so helpfully earlier. That is our guiding document. Because we know on. And several of you have referenced this in our community. People are passionate about their sport, whether it's swimming or tennis or soccer. There's a lot of interested athletes. So when we look for our guiding light and principles. We have multiple methods to talk to the community about what are their needs. Indoor tennis did not rise to the top in that process. And it is the this change in private sector supply that is creating a conversation. Now, that doesn't mean we shouldn't engage in it. But it that absolutely has changed the conversation.

[147:06] I have a question about the 3 nonsense. okay, is that right? So like, so we're gonna consider if we're gonna do a facility at all, or we're gonna consider, you know, will it be strictly public? Will it be strictly land plan? Lease will be somehow partnership. regardless of which of those we might choose. Will it be located about one? That's what we've identified currently as the best location in our system. It's it's an example of the language policy. For instance, emerging like you can find it. It's a few of that is the month. and that would apply

[148:00] even in a partnership. We see it. the which it's an example of where we're pausing. Obviously, we get into this, let's talk to look at processes and see what's possible policy. And so seemingly a lot love the hard burdens this department and boulder they kind of I think the word burden, you know, with expectations or hopes of having a temporary solution being particularly high. Is there any like temporary solutions? I'm sure you guys have thought through everything using. Say, you know, we had a photo of a slide or 2 last one quote just over the winter. Now, multi-use codes all what she needs, all of these pictures are. And so these are acquaintances when they're happening. Oh, yes, yes, I was just curious. I will say most players don't want to play with, but I mean, just like we're trying to offer something just for the enterprise.

[149:24] And we do offer. We do offer pickleball programming inside. And it's 1 of the recommendations of the plan as well as to look at potential small improvements we can make to the indoor pickleball experience. Tennis is. It's great for youth clinics, and youth programming for for any kind of competitive tennis or even a recreational service play indoor on a basketball court. Yeah. And then, lastly, the the final draft plan will that have

[150:01] costs for like a bubble and the new technologies? Yeah, okay, it's more like getting the framework to approach this policy. 1st name. also, those site specific, right? Our utility is already there is the bathroom. Where's you know what's already there? Well, I mean, you'd mentioned that very specific. or to, nor pull the record, please. No, no, couldn't handle. Yeah, right? Yeah. You said, we're peaceful. Okay? And north, what about north folders outdoor part all the same situation. So that's just that's just opposite. So an existing court actually needs an entire additional like foundation around it to hold the ball. So it's actually pretty. You know what I mean? Essentially, it would have to be renovated. And since we're doing the renovation.

[151:00] something could happen there. In the short term, we currently have 4 courts under construction, 2 under construction, that are getting replaced with Preston concrete. So there's 2 ports at Columbine, 2 ports at the rock of the ridge that are happening this summer. At the same time, Pbsd is actually renovating a group, A of their courts in 2 locations. So that'll increase the playability. It doesn't add the number of courts, but it is going to increase the experience and playability of those 14 people. Only. How many ports does the city have. There are 20 dedicated tennis courts, and there are 8 multi-use courts, 8 counting in terms of tennis or was transformed. 16. Yeah, that's part of I don't have the total at the top of my head. That's part of the full plan. But I would say, with the huge caveat of not counting

[152:04] hoas. It's really granular and messy when we start counting hoas by the courts and trying to understand were they accessible to you? And there was a loss of like 27 to 29. How many of those were indoor? So they're talking about, as I understand the numbers is. See you South. And then those 2 properties, I think, are the ones you're right. So there are 12. Let's use out 15. Maybe somebody thought they're 17 at Rntc. I think they're 15 but only a handful of those at Rntc. Will cover. We're down to which are so. It's not helpful. Right? There were some tournaments or rental situations that happened there. But by no means was it the hop online? Make a reservation or drop and play like we have in our system, or even like. You see, some of the Vbs reports being available after school hours, for instance, so

[153:08] not safe access. But it's good to hear all that, because I mean the notion that we don't have any courts in Boulder is really not true. And there's no, and that we have no email. But even better. we've not traditionally had public India, of course. Right. And so that conversation cropped up. Now that black and center was the most affordable version of that bubble over those 5 ports in the winter indira. But we do have facilities that are multi-use for children. That at least seems like again. So just trying to get some info in me, because you know the pickleball anger more right now.

[154:00] Yeah, safe on the street. So would a nonprofit entity also have to go through a competitive process, Ellie? Or does anyone know that? Answer that question? If the if a nonprofit came to the city, say, we want to partner with you to lease your land and build a facility. Would that would would that have to go out to Rfp as well. It would. And and we'd like to say to your point, remember that you weren't here last year? this constituency. It's very effective in mobilizing the people both ahead of the world. Charlotte, to test that we had like 500. I mean, it was like hundreds of people that are allocated, you know, last year 175. They're they're very interested in our investment there. But again, when we took the overall holistic measure.

[155:08] interest is incredibly high. But the use didn't rise to the top in terms of that's right. What what measure of data showed that that did not rise to the top the indoor. Specifically, I think you were talking about Ally. That's an important distinction, because we certainly heard from both the tennis and the pickleball community. The sports are growing more courts that speaks to that level of service question where we think we need to build 22 tennis courts, 22 pickleball courts. I just was commenting, and I forget the question just that the indoor piece really has emerged in the last few years, and with the change with Rocky Mountain tennis center. And I should also say, thank you to our interview probably is onto this project. So I'm sure also be a resource on this project. But we'll as we look at the full plan, it will provide a little bit more of a comprehensive look on what the whole plan is

[156:11] next month as well. So yeah. I don't suppose that we live on the are. We're late into the evening, and we'll we'll cover. So I thank you. Okay. Fantastic. Can everybody hear me? Okay. I think that's a yes, I can't see faces. Yes, okay, terrific. Alright. Thank you so much for letting me call in from home, and I will try and keep this brief, since I know it's late. And, as Mark said, I'm I'm home with a fever, keeping my germs away from you. So but I just wanted to use this as an opportunity to let you have a moment to reflect on where we are in the design process for this new park, which we can now officially call primos, which is so exciting.

[157:14] And the the purpose of this item since we had separated it from the naming process is to really gather your input on what we're calling the preferred concept for the design of this new park, and you'll get an idea for what that means. As we go through. This brief presentation. So as a reminder we had included this slide in our last presentation last month. but just wanted to remind all of us that we will continue to check in with the prab as we go through this process. And we have the big yellow star indicating where we are tonight. Which means that we're we're having used a lot of the deep engagement that we've done with our community at a point of having this preferred concept.

[158:04] We then move into the next phase, which we're calling schematic design. Excuse me following the sort of at the at the tail end of the schematic design process, too. I'd like to point out, we'll also be developing a funding and phasing plan to cover which elements of the design and activation of the park can be covered in the short and and middle or long term. This is a an in depth partnership process with our Transportation and Mobility department as well as our utilities department and and other outside agencies who are involved in in permitting and and other pieces. And so it's a pretty complex set of design and engineering and funding complexities. And so we're gonna try and sort those out over the next few months. But we're not quite there yet. So we're just still at this point of trying to hone in on the overall layout and character of the space

[159:04] before we move on as a reminder, or for new news for some of you who are newer to the project. you'll continue to see these neighborhood values throughout the course of our work with you and with the community, because they have been the guiding light and building the foundation and understanding what it truly is that the community wants in this space. The ones in yellow are of the 7 values that emerge. They're the ones that are most important to the community and have really informed the development of our design and conceptual plans. and we played with in our most recent engagement window different ways of combining those community values. And we developed 3 distinct site plans or conceptual ideas about how we might emphasize some of those values over others. It were in different ways across these 3 concepts.

[160:08] and we took those out to the community and ask for feedback. Which elements do you like? Which elements do you not like? What are you most excited. About which of the overall concepts are you most excited about, and have used that to come to a hybrid version of those concept plans that really combines the elements that were most important or most exciting to the community member. And that's what we're using to to continue designing in terms of how we've gotten this feedback. I'll just be brief. But we have continued to place emphasis on an an equity lens to our engagement approach, and so we've tried lots of different methods of getting to community members and and aspects of our community that don't typically participate in processes like this. And so whether it was an online focus group with mental health professionals to understand how we could advance

[161:03] mental health in our in this park. Or a community meeting that was hosted by our community connectors, where they even made their own food or whether it was getting out on site and walking and rolling to and from the park to understand where there were issues in the transportation network. We also participated in Crest View spring fling, we attended an Hoa meeting at the Ponderosa Mobile Home Community Park, and hosted some of the Nature play picnics that Charlotte mentioned earlier the themes that emerged from that continue to emphasize and reinforce the initial community values that we had heard in our 1st engagement window, and they just started to gain a little bit more specificity. So, for example, there still was a lot of interest in. Just get letting kids get out in nature and play a lot of interest in climbing, and some of the iconic, climbing features that we were sort of dangling

[162:01] as as ideas in front of them. As well as a lot of interest in in hosting food trucks in the park. looking for opportunities to engage the community in not just a not a traditional community garden, but rather sort of a food forest concept where? It's integrated into the riparian ecosystem continued emphasis around community gathering and and that being a real focus of the comments that we got in all these forums. and then some of the other themes to just play out, you know. Of course, accessibility continues to be important. and a lot of you know, you can see on the picture on the right there. If you kind of zoom in a little bit to look at the number of dots that are around. Some of those images on the poster lot of interest in making sure that we preserve as many trees as possible that we could. We explore the ways that we are able to increase flood capacity on the site. We're pretty limited, and that we're only a tiny piece of this larger watershed. But

[163:05] we'll do what we can in partnership with our utilities. Folks as well as opportunities to look forward in terms of ways to restore the prairie and riparian ecosystems. I'm going to let our consultant Ashley Pelatier, from Sasaki associates introduce the details of this preferred concept, and she is online with us now and then. I'll follow up with some more details about next steps. And Darren and Ashley. It's pretty small, even on our big screen, because we're a little far away. So you might want to use that feature again that I don't know if you saw me use Ashley where you just right click and you can choose where to like zoom in on the screen. So if you want to take us through, yeah, in a larger view that might help us. Alright. Thank you for having me everyone. Can. You all hear me?

[164:01] Yep. Fantastic, and you can see my face great. So I think the the overall strategy, like Darren said, was really about emphasizing this loving nature value that the community really focused in on. And our larger approach to this is is really kind of turning the volume up on. You know the diversity of species and landscape typologies. Here you probably remember a couple of months ago when I presented that there's really low biodiversity in this park because of the flooding that's happened in 2,013 and and other reasons. So the the community really wants to, to, you know, turn that volume up, and and, you know, reflect all the the landscape typologies of Boulder in this park. So our big move is increasing the flood capacity of the creek and doing some creek restoration here. So you'll see this in in the western portion of the park where we're zoomed in on this larger wetland. Complex here that will have increased flood capacity and sediment capture for those major storm events. And then some going to the east of the site.

[165:08] Continuing to repair some of the the roded parts of the creek. You'll see 2 major plazas on the western and eastern portion of the site that have 2 structures, the one on the western portion. Here we're calling more the community Plaza it has a shade structure, 3 season structure, a really iconic and and beautiful play tower, and then other play features, and it may be pop jets. Water feature. That's more community focus, even though this is a neighborhood park, we are, of course, welcoming the rest of the the boulder community with open arms. Here. There's also a lot of multimodal connections, a multimodal trail that runs through the park or or path. That connects to Boulder's larger system. There are some dead ends that kind of end at this park for a multimodal path. So we're extending that through the park. And then in the center, you can see an an amphitheater area that really capitalizes this large majestic cottonwood that's existing on the site. And that will be able to have community gatherings and other events. In this space. We're also mounding up this area of the site, using any cut that we're getting from that stream restoration

[166:28] to create a landform to create that amphitheater shape. On in this portion of Violet park. As we go further east you can see. All these pink blobs kind of scattered around. This is our nature play areas. And and we're gonna be actually working with a larger team on Friday to share at what the themes are in these nature play nodes or or kind of rooms. And further develop that sorry fire truck going by busy here in Denver. And then 20. You can see more of a a neighborhood plaza. We're gonna have one restroom here and a

[167:10] a place where you can rent out equipment to use throughout the park, whether that be a butterfly net, or, you know, shovels to to play and the sand. We saw in that video the the dirt kitchen. So tools like that that the community can use to really integrate themselves or you know, explore the park even more where also improving where you see 23. We're improving the bridge as you cross Violet. If you've been on Violet AV and and seen this portion, it's really scary as a pedestrian. That bridge has. It's over 50 years old. So it's way past its lifespan. So, looking to replace that and working with transportation to replace that creating an underpass there. So folks can go under and cross into that one acre parcel or cross on street and enter the parcel that way. So, making sure we all have the

[168:05] proper access and circulation to the site. And then this one acre parcel that's not accessible right now to the public is going to be this more quiet contemplative space with a food forest that Darren mentioned earlier. So again, I think, building upon my presentation from a couple of months ago, making sure we have all the transportation connections, allowing folks from Boulder Meadows to properly access this open space and and utilize it, and and make sure it reflects their needs, and they see themselves in the park. They miss anything. Darren. No, that's great, Ashley, and certainly happy to answer questions from the prab. Appreciate you going through that. The other elements that we just wanted to share in terms of the feedback that we've heard from our most recent engagement window relate to the access that Ashley just alluded to. We, as as most of you likely know, have received a grant through the safe routes partnership, to explore safe routes to to and from this park and have worked with the community to understand what the major barriers are

[169:16] to accessing the park. I'm really excited to report that while we heard loud and clear that the speeds along both Violet and 19th are a barrier to accessing the park. Our transportation mobility partners in that department have been incredibly responsive. and are working with us to reduce the speeds on Violet Avenue. So I am very excited about that and other work that they are doing on behalf of this community in terms of the next steps for the overall project. Charlotte walked you through some related to the naming itself, but we'd like to hear your feedback questions on the concept plan tonight so that we can continue moving that feedback into the next phase of design and engineering.

[170:03] Charlotte also mentioned that we are participating with a booth this Saturday at the grand opening for the North Boulder Library, will. We're also have just a touch point for the community to understand where we are and join, join the movement and the email list to stay in touch. And then we are also. We'll be submitting for some initial city, permitting over the next couple of months, which, will likely entail review by the planning board as part of that, and so wanted to make sure that you were aware. The of that, and certainly details will be shared as we get that all scheduled the naming ceremony, as Charlotte mentioned, will be included as part of the neighborhood block party that the meadows res the Meadows. Neighborhood is hosting on Saturday, July 27, th but they are are welcoming the public at 1 30 that afternoon to announce and celebrate that name, and we'll likely look for lots of other ways to support them in. In announcing and celebrating that name.

[171:04] continued on site. Early childhood engagements with our partners are growing up older to continue bringing them along in the development of design. We found it's really effective to be able to have these forums where they're relaxed and enjoying the park itself, to to give them bits and pieces of information and get feedback on from from both the young young residents and their caregivers. And as I alluded to, there will be some more early actions related to improving the safe routes coming online. Likely in the week or 2 before school starts back up and that is being funded by both the Transportation and Mobility department as well as through this grant that we received we are also speaking of grants putting in an application, as we've alluded to in past months to great outdoors, Colorado to their community impact program And then, as I mentioned Planning Board Review, and then we will come back to you. Once we've advanced design and engineering and gotten a a lot better understanding in terms of what the cost estimates really look like for the park, and how that plays into a more detailed funding and phasing plan, in terms of which elements will advance

[172:19] when? And with what funding we can assign to that. So those will be details that we continue to work out over the coming months. and of course, happy to answer any clarifying questions that you have. These were included in your packet. And, as well as you know, hear from you about which elements you're most excited about, or which you think advance the community's values best, as well as any red flags or suggestions for improvements that you may have. So with that I will yield back to the chair. What was for the rental. think that shack or whatever. So that you're gonna set up is that gonna probably be staffed by a

[173:06] employee of the city. And then is it giving? Is it a team based, or is it just like a library model where we check out a shovel of later. I I love the question because those are all all the questions that we're exploring now. We've been working really closely, as we've mentioned with our youth services initiative participants who also live in boulder meadows. they have already in their existing programming a set of workdays throughout the summer where they get paid to participate. So we're actually already starting to work with them in that capacity to understand how they might help us kind of move into the space. They also those program managers are often looking for employment or leadership opportunities for for the older youth who either graduate out of that program or who become old enough to

[174:00] want to just take on more of a mentor or leadership role. So we're really interested in exploring that model as well as comparing that with partnership with play boulder and our community connectors program that the city works on citywide on. So we're exploring a lot of options. don't have answers yet, but those are some of the details we'll be. We'll be nailing down as we move into the next phases. And my second question is around the access like, so the speed is one thing, but the full lack of any pipeline or sidewalk is another thing is that something that we can address? Or is that department transformation. Excuse me both. Yeah. So we're so lucky to be having our transportation partners literally side by side with us on this. Ashley and I were just on a call today to work out some of these details. But it in terms of at least through 30 design. We're all together. Right? We're all making sure that we're designing these improvements so that we don't step on each other's toes.

[175:05] and so Ashley pointed out. For example, here's the multi use path connection that would come through the site, whereas right now it just dead ends out on violet and there would be other improvements. Including an buffered on street bike Lane on both sides of Violet as well as we continue to work with our partners and understand the funding picture a little bit better. Then we'll be sorting out when construction activities will begin. For which pieces, so I will be honest to say there is one possibility where those elements have to get phased after the park improvements. But our perfect world is such that that's not the case that we keep moving together, and it all gets constructed together. But they're just a lot of permitting and engineering questions tied up in that. Thanks. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how important is Violet as a East West connector. Have you thought about incorporating Violet into the park and making it like a slow streets where kids can scooter and stuff like that. I mean.

[176:12] That's such a great question. We've we've in partnering with transportation and mobility, been following the planning guidance that is in place already, which means the North Boulder subcommunity plan, the Greenways Master plan as well as the transportation master plan. And so those 3 policy documents that have gone through council in years past. Don't call for that. They rather call for this cross section I was just describing where it's pretty beefy, I mean. I will say it's it's it's a really well, I mean in full build out. It'd be really effective. You would have a like, I said the buffered bike lane in both directions. A sidewalk, and then on the north side an extra wide that doubles is that multi use path.

[177:00] so that's what the plans call for currently. And so that's what we've stuck with. I love your creativity and thought process, but we haven't gone there. I know them. Okay. I would just say that I think the amphitheater is amazing. It's my favorite part, for sure. I think any opportunity for arts and performances. Amazing. love nature based place structures. I think that anything new and exciting from that end is is really great. Growing garden also really great, I would say the my only concern would be the rental situation that Anna brought up, I think, having things that can be lost or taken out of the part, or just potentially something. You have to be constantly replacing and things like that. And I don't think you can have anybody there full time to to part, to manage something like that.

[178:00] And libraries, and with the library right next door, maybe they could manage a little rental library so kind of partnership. But you know some libraries you can rent out a vacuum cleaner like I think we probably. Yeah. Community resource, like keeping the rentals at the library. And I. That's better than keeping it out of the park. Yeah. i i i appreciate you bringing that up. I will say that in working with our partners at the library district they have fully programmed out the spaces that are internal to that structure, and don't anticipate there being room within the new structure to support that. But they're very willing to explore. Coming up with a cataloging system to help us manage this once it if if it were to get built, they're very happy to help us operationalize. That side of it. That should have mentioned that earlier. Thanks for bringing that up.

[179:00] Otherwise. I think it's fantastic. Good job. Thank you. Good job. Ashley. I just wanna give you guys a shout out, it's so exciting. And so fun is the kind of thing I guess we don't get to do often enough. Because we're focusing on maintaining the amazing system we have but reusing the freeze that we do have to cut flood mitigation, which is gonna happen more and more. Shane structures maintaining the tree can be wherever we can, which I hope is really actually through and the some. Oh, the the garden. What is it? The so cool? And then yeah, for the increasing heat constantly for children's play, shape, structure, and all the trees. It's amazing. So nothing much to say. Just it's great. I like the place structure, I think, older older flags and tennis courts, and also I feel like, in a super exciting place, probably so

[180:03] nice to see everyone plan. I had a question, though, about interaction with water is, that is that contemplated? Is there an easy place to dip your toes in, slash around. Yeah, absolutely. And Ashley feel free to add anything. I'll say that we know this is a seasonal creek, so it's already dried up substantially by this time of year. But in spring snow melt season. It's dramatic and dynamic. We love it. And so some of that would happen here in the wetland area with ideally a boardwalk but then, also these little nature plane nodes. We're gonna look for every opportunity we can to let the kids get in the water, Ashley, please add anything. Yes, and we also are planning for where number 2 is. A splash pad, area, trying to make that water play as as robust as possible. It's a really tough feature. We know that from civic center and and other parks that my firm has worked at so trying to make that as maintenance free and durable as possible.

[181:06] Yeah, that's the other thing I was gonna ask. But it's this flash. Is that like, what's on the Mall where children can play in the water like any old time. not in the winter, but. Yes. Right? What's that easy. crazy stuff? That's the concept. And I will say, just with everything right. There are lots of asterisks, you know, at this point in the process, because as we get into to permitting an additional design we may have to adjust things. So even just the character of these images that we're showing they're just ideas, their precedents, right? So we're gonna be looking at the the true character of those as we move forward. But that is, that is the concept, and especially making sure that it's an accessible feature for kiddos with disabilities. Else on. I know I know. No, we're we're hanging. They work well, so far, I think it's great.

[182:01] Yeah, we're almost there, folks. We move on to as the board. Yeah. Thanks. We just have a couple of short ones. I've worked liaison to projects. You don't want to get a chance for to do that list. but the danger is crossed off right there are. There are names. I can read these up quickly. We have me do it. so okay, so I'm sitting here in phase 2 myself and Wayland. public to private partnerships. With respect to older sunny support systems. Development is Elliot future rep centers is myself assigned regional facility. Business plans is Elliot. play boulder is is Anna.

[183:01] and then there's a couple here without names. Tash about a park development design and also Rms system evaluation active that they actually don't know what that is. That's our recreation management software. Okay? I think we were going to leave Pilot for development perfect. I think it was going to be offices like the year in the end. Okay, alright. Eric. getting rejoined. for your Denver extra work. Well, I'm I met with like play regarding that board member position I think Wayland was interested in, too. So I think they're gonna pick and shouting someone. Those meetings have already happened. I met with one. I don't a second. Okay, but it sounds like 70. I mean, I'm happy to deter. I just want to help out with funders.

[184:00] Okay, one person is totally adequate for some benefits. I said, too. for instance, civic area phase 2. Is this project so like, I'm glad that you and I, teaming towards systems, have been fine. Just me. budget development. I think that it would be advantageous with us. Blah, blah blah could be awesome. A lot of video. What's the next one? Sorry. Give me one second relax business business plan. And I think it's Elliot's on that one. Elliot is on that, and if we want that, a second person wouldn't be a bad thing.

[185:00] and then the other. The other is public private partnerships at Boulder Reservoir. That one is pretty specific, I imagine the concession. Probably I'm happy. Are they similar to those projects, though. Well, that's got me on that. I think on that. If you want me to help as well. what about the hill? Is that a thing or not is not saying presenting. It doesn't tell them all that. Yeah, it's all happening like a separate and Rms system. Evaluation is empty. Is that really? I don't. So it's an interesting one. So Jackson will spearhead for an Rfp. And there are a lot of different software companies that manage recreation departments. And what I will say is, we have a vested interest in ensuring that we're able to attract and use cost recovery. And then we really want the thing that's user friendly for the public to register for programs and

[186:01] and make sure that we're providing equitable access and those kind of things. And so to get a community member perspective. And then, I think is really important. So is this software. And it's to replace that with another software. I think it would be nice to get feedback on that for sure. just to just to. You can do brief overview. But the permanent habits we have both is that there may be either interest from the community. As for tennis, or there may be a need for us to get into the community. In either case it's helpful for us to have a direct line to the public, to the constituency and then help be as receptive. There you go. I'm okay. So that actually doesn't have like one of you registered.

[187:00] Yeah, the implementation of these offers is help. The public reserves. Our system ensures that we have a place and equitable and accessible and and easy for people to register for programs and sign up for events or whatnot. Okay. alright, thanks, everybody. I appreciate your so is everybody in there now, can you tell me again? I've got it up on the screen. what I have? Exactly that it took us through. Okay. any other members from that. Chris. Anything by setting up. Okay, I had a few, but I'll say that we have motion to adjourn. Is there a second.

[188:12] No, it's great. Thank you all for the discussion. We really, I know we try to rein it in and keep you on. Okay. I'm I am glad that you have so many questions and so much interest in the work. We will keep trying to fit it all in. Thank you. Thanks for your time.