April 24, 2023 — Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:02] I have a recording. I'll say for the record that the agenda has been approved, and we're moving on to the inducting of your members. I. Okay. So this one is for Andrew Andrew. I am going to do solemnly that I will support the Constitution of the United States of America and the State of Colorado and the Charter, in order to thankfully perform the duties of the office of a member of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, with which I am about to enter. I, Andrew Bernstein do some. That's where I was for the Constitution of the United States of America and the State of Colorado and the charter and ordinances of the city boulder, and faithfully reported to these at the office of a member of the Bronx and Recreation, by the

[1:00] which I Okay. Okay. would you like to do the setting up for? I I am, I am, I am I am. I am. I am a member of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, which I am about to enter. Right? Thank you. Okay. It's a bit of an icebreaker. If it's been just a couple of minutes around the table this time. Number so we can. They Just a word or 2 about Why, one what you like about the parks. and so on you so you can start with, you know. sure. So

[2:01] I join the Pr. Because I believe deeply in having a really strong parts and rec system as part of a city's health and well being. And I am a big user, of the park system along with my 2 little kids and my wife. and so I feel like i'm a big stakeholder in what we do. and I've always been so impressed by Alders Park system, and I just wanted to be a part of. Make it any better stewarding the that we have, and you know, leaving a legacy of creative parts and rec systems for my kids, and you know other people to come. So it's my here. and I am here because I, similar to Elliot. I believe that active

[3:00] pilots are really important to to to help the development of the and athletics. And I, I, children, go to the bilingual school, and I have seen that many are pretty much all of them watching up, and links that I know are where of the financial benefits that I So I am here to try and think the systems more inclusive to the and and similar. I just. I've used the parks for many years, so 6 and I resided in Top Holder 99, and just so they user of the rock centers. And now i'm a mother so that 2 kids who are using the parks and and also just want to. You know I got on the board because I just really wanted to understand honestly how this all works, and.

[4:12] you know, use my voice to champion. and just hopefully some folders that's where we live, and and just. you know, really try to figure out how to make the best use of our resources. We've got so many amazing resources and ideas, and you know, I just feel like wanted to help out right. I'm not a chuck rock, and I raised 2 kids here who are now adults. So we were very happy us users of the park system and recreation facilities, and we love every minute of it. I still use a lot. North Boulder Park is my favorite. I love seeing the diversity of uses the amazing number of people there. How active it is! It just makes me feel good. I'm interested in pushing the department on issues of sustainability and environment work to climate change and transportation. So that's one of the reasons I wanted to be on the board.

[5:11] Andrew Bernstein and I. I have a number of reasons, like everyone else, for want to be a member of this this board. But first of all, we've been right. We we'll be broadly in the power of ours for creation, as instruments for health and wellness and social equity in. and members of our community of all age, every age, not just children. And I also believe the support that we, as department as cyber, equity and access and inclusion. And that's something that I hope to help to represent. Okay, bye. I just position. It's a straight white man here this morning. I do have a disability, and I hope to help you represent needs of that community as well. And it's Jason on. That's yeah, everyone Sorry Sorry to not be there in person on this on a month's day for Anna and Bernie, and also for Chuck and Elliot. Sorry I couldn't be there to join you. All

[6:11] this is hard to go last, because I think everyone kind of said the reasons my original reasons for joining. But I think, as I've been on. I guess it's starting. My end of my third year Started my fourth year. I I guess. Kind of thinking about it. It's it's a it's a great level of involvement in city politics. It's, you know. Everybody loves the parks. It's great part of the parks, you know, kind of thinking of the future of the parks, and you know all the all of the many things you all said. But it's not. You know it's not overly contentious where we where we lose kind of friends and neighbors over some of these issues. These are kind of fun issues to discuss, and you know well, difficult, and sometimes he did it doesn't get to the level of you know other issues in the city. And so I've I've really like, you know. That's maybe not the reason why I join, but that's been one of the things I've appreciated since. Being on the board is just kind of that kind of middle level of involvement in the middle, not meaning

[7:06] importance, but just kind of controversial level, you know, in terms of being involved in city issues that matter and for the future, but also. like I said, not not issues that are so so divisive that are. you know, they really kind of tear people apart. So yeah. But then, in addition, everything, everyone all said as well. So welcome to Marine Anna, and I think I don't know I need it there, but I might be the last one to speak here. Yeah, I think you are in the last. Alright, so thank you very much. Actually have officer elections, and i'll turn over to rows that I could contact those. Okay, Yes, I'm gonna have Scott help me with this. I have 2 nominations to announce. We have a nomination for chair and a nomination for vice chair, and i'm going to hand it over to Scott.

[8:04] Yeah. Processed Absolutely. So. Our nomination for chair chair is Chuck Brock. and at this time, before we get into a a motion and a vote, we do want to open it up. If anyone else is interested in serving as chair. They have the opportunity to say so now, or if anyone would like to nominate anyone else for chair now is the opportunity. Oh, for just a minute to see if anybody has any any thoughts on that. Okay, hearing none, Chuck, Would you like to say any words before we take a vote? But sure, I just a couple of quick things. My my objectives is to make sure that everyone's voices are heard, and no one bills excluded, and everyone feels like they're getting an opportunity to say what they want to say. At the same time the other same tasks for the chairs to the meetings along as quickly as this consistent with the first.

[9:05] primarily a primary issue. So i'm going to try to balance that if I if i'm elected, and if I'm not doing a good job. He's just tell me I I really have not much of an ego at all, and you know i'm doing a bad job, and I won't. Take it that way if it comes along with a suggestion on how they're okay. Thank you. Any discussion or we can entertain a motion. I move to that Brack elected our chair great. We have a second perfect, because this is an elected position. We will do a roll call vote. so I'll ask Rosa to go through and call each of your names, and you can respond by saying I or name so. Oh, so back to you. Yes, Jason number.

[10:01] Yes. Elliot Hood. and Denny does not share Anna, you are all right. Sunny Band starts, I understand. Great. Thank you very much. So we had one nomination for vice chair, and that was Eliot Hood. Again. I'll pause for a moment in case anyone would like to nominate themselves or someone else all right hearing none. Would you like to say a few more, which one honor to be nominated? I want to echo exactly what Chuck said about Governance, making sure that everybody's voices are heard, that we, that the Department is responsive to the perhaps questions and requests which you guys have always been just keeping that as priority.

[11:03] making sure that we are engaging in the community as much as possible. and also to move the meetings along, and ensure that we are being respectable of People's volunteer time on this fighting. Thank you and Staff State time. I all right. Any comments, or all. or motion to so have Elliot serve as vice chair. I'll motion to have to really to serve as our Vice chair. Second. I try. so i'll turn it back over to you again for the right at Cronk. alright. Jason Andre. Hi. Bernie Bernstein.

[12:01] Sunny Vander Star! I right congratulations. Tell you right so. Thank you so much for that. And now we will go to future board items delivered by our deputy director, Scott. Absolutely so. Thanks, everyone, and I. I appreciate having a little patience with me. If I sit in for Ally Ally does a tremendous job providing updates one. This is my first opportunity to do that. So it's it's good to be here. I've heard during my time here how crowd members would like to really be involved in the community, and we do have a couple of events this coming Saturday that I would like to invite you to Saturday morning at 8 am. At Mcgukins. There'll be a tree giveaway that'll go quick. So I would imagine that will be under an hour of trees will be gone, but

[13:02] certainly welcome to to be there to help out if if you would like. Also on Saturday from 11 am. To one. Pm: we've got the child Friendly Cities initiative launch. and that's an opportunity to to really start to hear more about the impact that the city intend to have on children in our community so really excited about that, I'll be down and and visiting that as well. And that's gonna be at the band shell, and so I would encourage you to consider it in that We've got a couple of presentations today that Mark and Jackson are prepared for. But coming up in May we'll continue to talk about our cip, and Mark has presented a little bit of information on the cip. So far. He continues to do work with with each of our teams, to prepare and and think about the future assets and what we need to do there, and so that'll be coming up in May. We'll also have

[14:00] some additional information coming up later on in in June and whatnot One of the big updates will be Jackson talking about and Stacy talking about our budget, our fee schedule that you got a taste of last month, so we have a lot going on within the department and excited to to share information with you tonight. Are there any questions that I can answer? Can you discuss more with the events going to be at 11 on Saturday. That is a great question. I know it's it's kind of a kick off celebration, and so i'm assuming you'll hear a little bit about the vision for some of the involvement. And and really what we're trying to do is collectively throughout the entire city, really work towards having a a a plan and a master plan, if you will, for how we're going to meet the needs of children in our community, and it's it's above and beyond parks and recreation. This is a a citywide initiative, and so hopefully you'll hear about bringing down some of the barriers

[15:12] and and making sure that we're providing inclusive services. A committee is being formed here in the next in the next month or 2 internally to the city of Boulder, and our hope would be that over the next year we we start to establish that vision and create that master plan and move towards implementation. So I think you'll hear a little bit about that. I haven't been really involved in the in the conversations as of yet. I know Allison is, is the sponsor for this project and kind of spearheading it, so I can't do it just this, and telling you what it's about. But I will definitely encourage you to be there, and then we can certainly get an update in May as well as to where it's at. and specifically like I. I know it's about kids. But is it for kids. But I I come alone, or with my children. It's just because it's been in the background by the year or so. It's on board. And

[16:11] so, Karen Mike, that his name's up on the screen. I've seen you and ask him. Architect is actually going to be the project manager from City on the project. Yes, it's it's a day absolutely. Please do that. And one of the nice things about I mean. If this the child from the he's initiative, and it's in that school driven. So the first city in the Us. Is that label that's a partnership with growing up boulder, who actually provided the framework for you in a school child, Frankly, city about 10 years ago. So i'll come back round to see you in the lead on this and part of it is the broncos. So to the land which led to boldly receiving 2.1 million youth projects. So this plan will help inform the spending directions for that much. So please feel free to reach out to that for specific questions, because she knows more than any of this put together

[17:02] from that same sale. It's a it's it's about 30 cities. He's someone who had provided a tax funding for When the stadium was originally constructed. there was a stipulation that each city got a proportional share for their contribution at the time of the sale of the team, not the stadium. So Denver is the largest recipient we get about 2.1 million dollars. The smallest community gets $600. So we're actually in a pretty good spot. Any other questions I just want to make a comments that I think I'm really excited about this department events and items of interest section here. I think this is exactly what we've been talking about before, in terms of laying out of upcoming events very clearly that are that involve the parks. So I I really appreciate that. Thanks.

[18:01] and i'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Scott Carpenter Pool will open May first, so we've had a lot of feedback. I know we all get tonight extensively on where we' with lab availability and and pools; and I will say that our staff has done a tremendous job in in hiring and recruiting lifeguards and aquatic staff, and we're in really good shape right now to kick off the summer and open Scott Carpenter Pool on May first. Okay, any other comments. hey? Next time is public participation, and for the new Board members as well as members of the public. We, if we have an action item something we're voting on. Later in the meeting. the public participation and public testimony related to that that item would occur before the discussion of that later in the meeting.

[19:00] But because we don't have any action items, the only opportunity for public participation will be held at the beginning of the meeting, which is this segment now so just to to explain it in the future we might have 2 pieces of public participation in some of our. And why that happens. Okay. So this port from the meeting is for members of the public to communicate ideas or concerns to the Board regarding parts to recreation issues. or which your public hearing is not scheduled Later in the meeting the public is encouraged to common on the Need recreation program, the facilities they receive them, and all speakers are limited to 3 min. depending on the nature of your matter. You may or may not receive response from the board or staff after you deliver your comments. But rest assured we're always listening and very much appreciate the feedback we're hearing from you. I believe we have 4 people signed up for public common. Is that right. Yes, we want to go ahead and say no, that our remarks and testimony shall be limited to matters related to city business. No participant shall make threats for you, separate phones or intimidation against any person.

[20:07] I've seen. These, Some racial and participants are required to sign up in advance and use the name. They are commonly known by. Thank you, Chuck. do you have the must check? The first paper will be Don Verdict. all by Larry Mcel and I, said, Rosa, get her timer up, and then she'll line mute, Don as you can speak.

[21:25] Hi! My name's dawn Burgl. I'm a Can you hear me? Perfect? Go ahead. Okay, perfect. Hi! My name's Don Burglar. I'm a ten-year-old resident and I want to raise concerns regarding the acute shortage of tennis courts for the rising demand in boulder. I'm. A passionate recreational player and a captain of several adult tennis teams who play in sanctioned leagues with teams from around the Denver Boulder area, and a league match requires 4 or 5 courts in good condition, and today only Centennial Middle School and see you South meet that criteria

[22:04] and the see you South Courts. As you know, we're soon to be going away. So there. There are hundreds of public Cork League players in Boulder, and as an accessible outdoor and socially Distance, activity, tennis participation rose rapidly during the pandemic. and we're critically short of facilities. At Centennial Middle School we have contention with the students from Boulder High and their own leagues, and as a team captain, I've had City issued reservations in hand, only to find the Jv. High School girls matches using the courts. and nobody wins in that situation, and I can tell you it was awful to have to request that the school coaches remove the 13 year old girls because a group of older men had prior reservations for match against the team. They're driven all away from Thornton. It. It was downright embarrassing.

[23:00] When we play at Longmont, Louis Lewisville, Arvada, Denver, Erie, or Thornton. The the public facilities are so much nicer. They're better maintained They're more accessible. Visitors. Are amazed at how a city like Boulder can be so poorly equipped. So i'm. I'm commenting tonight to raise awareness in hopes that the P. And our leadership can work, together with the tennis community and possibly with the naturally aligned pickleball community to develop facilities comparable to our front-range neighbors. Thank you for listening Thank you very much. Donna. Next up we'll have about Larry Mikkel. followed by fram sheets. You ready, Larry. Okay, Can you hear me? Yeah. Alright. Hello. My name is Larry Mckel. I've been a older resident for 33 plus years and an avid user of city parks and rec

[24:04] services for every 20, and I've been interacting with parks and rec staff, and the better part of the last 15 primarily been running open water swims from the reservoir and alder aquatic master. I noticed that during the study session earlier this month someone raised the question: is there a way to have people say the user Hi 3 out so that they have input. This was on page 19 of your packet the fifth. This is a great lead end to my comment, for this evening fees are too high for recreational. A quadratic motor. Aquatic masters picks up where the city services have chosen to stop. and used to be under the purview of the city many years ago. The communities desire for a program such as ours has kept a vibrant for the past 3 decades. Our efficient use of scarce schools, pool. Space and peer support aligns with the recreational categories goal of promoting physical and mental health. Well, being here in boulder.

[25:01] including the pandemic a few years ago open water swims were assumed by the city resources. These were a failure for a variety of reasons. Band stepped in to bring it back to life last year, you know, Mars swims out the reservoir. I've been a self supported labor of love. I faced many of the same issues that city does in finding lifeguards. I'm. Like the city that can pay higher bonuses increase starting wages or advertise broadly. My challenge is compounded to see guards as an all volunteer group. In addition, our program is charged for entering before hours to set up for their swim. We are also charged small craft permit, and boot storage fees. This is all to bring it over a 1,000 entrance fee, paying reservoir 1,000 entrance. be paying participants to the reservoir during the early morning summer hours. It's over 10,000 additional hours in entrance fees, along with nearly 2,000 and program fees being added to the reservoirs. One bam is done. The heavy lift zoom so that all can find the joy of swimming. The city just has to station a gate attendant to collect the money

[26:05] back to the question about Ivs user group outcry over the pricing has gotten louder with the most recent private rental rates published in March, because it's a 300% increase as well as the characterization that these user groups are subsidized. Using it. Here we return more financial value to the city than we derive. Product user groups are not providing a limited community benefit. We are the community any given practice. You'll find that aquatic enthusiasts in their twenties through their seventies or even eighties. These are teachers, scientists, and students, others that live in work in boulder. We should be categorized as a recreational group, and we should not be asked to pay an exterminant fee to run a safe program that generates revenue for the city. You, Larry. Next up we have France sheets who will be followed by the least cars up

[27:29] screen share. Okay. And can you raise your hand? Are you able to do that on Zoom? It's? Thank you. Unmute. Thank you. Can you hear me now. Yes.

[28:01] oh, great, thank you, thanks for not giving up. My name is Fran Sheets, and I was on the landmarks board for 7 years. I came off a year ago, and I'm here to talk to you tonight about, and hopefully give a really really brief explanation, which I would be happy to go to in detail with anybody on the board about the process that surrounded the events from last year, when we tried to simply expand the banshell boundary in Central Park. I it! It's so complicated it's hard to know how to begin in 3 min. But the the issue became sticky, I think, because there was a failure of everyone to communicate, and I think both the landmarks board and the crab were not given information in a timely fashion, and the process failed at City Council about

[29:02] 6 months after it began, simply because people didn't understand what what the purpose was and why we were doing it. We would like this time and council ended up asking that instead of expanding the boundary, that the whole area become a historic district. which is far more complex and far more time-consuming, but because they told us that we could do it in this year, and 2023, and nothing had been done. Or no one had spoken to any of the boards in from January to April, and they were meeting every week. It was decided that some of the citizen groups of friends of the band shell the friends of the tea house and historic boulder to put forth a an application to share with everyone, and I hope that we can keep this as an open process as we move along. So i'm just telling you that this is happening. If you want details. I'm glad to talk to anybody.

[30:13] and we will share as much as we can. We'll make our meetings as open as we possibly can, and try to move this through the city in a, in a, in a, in a rather quick fashion. Well, maybe this year, if we can. so please feel free to contact me. I'm. Available to talk to anybody, and we will continue to update you as the process continues. So thanks a lot for listening, and I hope you remain with us, and I hope you ask questions, and I hope you can join us in the process. Thanks a lot. Take care. thank you, Fran. Our final speaker is at least cars up.

[31:07] At least, if you're there. could, you let us know. might be muted, but and raised. That's Patrick. that if she can raise it. And can you raise your hand? Maybe unmute Patrick if he's got name or something? That's true. They kept a mute frame. Yeah. first of you she shares it. I don't know, could be a your household or something in a different name on the computer. Dr. Carter, are you? Are you signed on under your own name. If you're not, we need you to raise your hand and let us know. Hello! My name is Patrick O'rourke. I did register to speak tonight, but i'm not on your list.

[32:04] Oh. registered at the beginning after your last session, so will you permit me to move forward? Do you think there was an issue. I I have no objection letting Mr. Award see Does anyone else have an exception? I just say that it'd be double checked list for at least it's from back after after speaks. That's a great idea. So, Rosa, can you can you, while after speaking, did you look in your emails and see if you can find the Louis starter and ensure that that name was correctly entered, or someone with that name is on or not. I saw someone. Okay. Okay, You mean time, I said, Patrick, or work, go ahead and speak. I I wanted to first of all welcome the new members to the parks and wreck. I know that's

[33:04] a lot of time and energy you have to put forward to to be a volunteer in your organization. and so I want to thank all the members for their service. My name is Patrick O'rourke. I'm the Preservation chair for a historic boulder. I spoke to this group in February regarding Good. the Banshell expansion. And what happened in June of last year. and Francis just spoke to that issue that occurred. That's not what I'm gonna talk to you about tonight tonight in your docket i'm page 36. You have a recommendation from allie I believe it is to go forward with a cultural landmate landscape assessment for the central historic district. We discussed the opportunity to do us a landscape assessment. The last time one was done in

[34:00] Boulder was to tackle 20 some odd years ago, and it was quite comprehensive. The reason i'm bringing it up tonight is the recommendation from Staff, I believe, is to have a what is commonly called the Cla. For the central historic district. I would strongly recommend that you expand the boundaries and take it to to to use the green way. In other words, back in 1,910. Believe it or not. There was a report given to by a landscape architect Olmsted to the city of Boulder. using the creek as the boundary of of of Futures expansion for all the the parks and recreation That plan started on the western edge of town, which is commonly called Cannon Park. and it went all the way over to 20 Eighth Street.

[35:01] and I'm. Recommending and hoping that the Parks and Recreation Board. If they go forward with the Cla. Use those boundaries, and i'll tell you why. Starting on the West End, you have the red rocks. You have the canon. You have the even fine part you have, the Boyd smelter, which is part of the hip. the Highland school, the news from nursery, which you may or may not know, was just designated along with the silver shadow. There's going to be 43 townhouses going up there. Then this is such a the civic historic district which has 5 historic buildings already designated. and then the creek follows down past Boulder High School. and it keeps going all the way down to where there's going to be 2 projects going. One is the the Millennium Hotel, and now the harvest apartments are both coming down. and Olmsted had that design. So the creek became, and thank you. I know i'm off part of the path.

[36:02] so thank you for your time. Thank you very much. We determined if Dr. Barcos is on the present, but no abilities on Mute. Let's use our let me see. So you said you saw his name. Yeah. Hmm.

[37:09] Okay. Okay. Well, if you're still on, I apologize for the problems I'm: in new. And if you could send us an email or be willing to give testimony at the next meeting. That would be great. We definitely want to hear what you have to say. Sorry if we lost you or you had some kind of maybe it's for for Carson. You raise your hand oops it just went down, and the attendees one more time. It's can pop up for me. There is, yeah, okay.

[38:00] Okay, Can you hear me? Sorry about that. I'm a boomer? So okay, boomer me. So my name is Louis Garza. I've lived in Boulder for 36 years. We wife and I raised our 3 daughters here and we love boulder, but I've noticed over the last several years say, dwindling supply of tennis courts meeting with an increased demand, especially when coupled with the explosion and popularity of pickleball during the pandemic, which seems to be continuing. Add to this the the poor condition of the current lot of courts that we have a lot of cracks and great netting. Meanwhile Longmont, Ny Watt, or Vada, just to name a few. have a build, beautiful outdoor, and indoor tennis facilities. In the last few years both tennis and pick a ball lot of physical, mental, emotional, and social benefits that can last a lifetime. Really.

[39:06] my passion for the game has allowed me to play local and national tournaments along with league play. and I volunteered my time to. I have dream foundation to teach tennis to end the privilege. Youth. which I feel is vitally important. And so it pained me to have to tell some young Latino kids that were playing it, to know what courts that I had a reservation, and they had to move on. It was really hard to for me to do that. The nearest courts we're probably 3 miles away. I don't think they probably had much money to book a court. The Rocky Mountain Center, which serves a a lot of youth along with wheelchair players. We'll probably be gone along with their, I believe, 1617 courts in the next year or 2. So i'm hoping that by bringing her attention to this at

[40:04] can you hear me? Yes, okay, that the your department can develop a plan, maybe a public private partnership of of some sort to help with this growing issue, and I thank you for your attention and for your time. Thank you very much. All right. and thanks for your persistence and getting in my all right after focus participation, we offer the app an opportunity to comment on the public participation. Ask for any comments from the crowd as well. So let's start with Staff, you know. in response I will say that that we are working towards refurbishing tennis courts. I don't know market to this, that information that you can share at this time on test courts and what's going on in the cip in the near future.

[41:02] Yeah, Thank you, Scott. Thanks. So, Bob Davidson, you planning manager, I forget to do that now, and but 2 things. I'll update you on desktop. A team in the landscape architect will be doing a calls plan over the coming year that will assess quotes across the system, and look at where the opportunity for potential new calls, how we collaborate with partners. What would that look like in a constraint, action vision situation, and that plan will be ready by the end of 2,023. So obviously we won't be making any major decisions on calls because we'll be guided by that plan which will obviously come to the Board of might be having numerous discussions on. So that's the big picture on the calls themselves from the capital maintenance perspective. When it came 2 months ago, 2 months ago, with a couple of investment strategy, we noted that the proposal is to update cold funding from previously of 2,000 a year to 400,000 a year.

[42:01] The reason we will do that is, we're obviously pushing some more funding into taking care of what we have. and Jackson and Stacey will be chat about that more in the coming months. So that's the sort of 2 major maintenance side of things. And then the bigger thanks there currently are no plans for developing new tennis facilities. Right? We're talking about maintenance of the existing facilities. Only. Yeah thing we had in the plans with delivery. When I were up to 6 months ago, we don't proposal as in terms of calls, when we think of pick a ball and tennis. We then have a proposal in the pipeline for for all these communities we're wrapping that in the bigger picture now as part of that planning, is it? And with the loss of the courts at the Millennium Harvest House. Well, all those course disappear. It's part of the new development or the ones that are to the south of the creek are main that, to be honest in, if Tina is online, she could give you more detail on that. What I would say is, we are looking at a private calls from, like the inventory across the system, to look at boulder as a whole, and use this. Is that possibilities for utilization?

[43:05] Sure. those are the only real indoor course, for when you're used with it with their dome, right? So that's a real something. We're only going to be missing in Boulder. Now, we we recognize that I think team has come on line with the same. Yeah, hi. I just wanted to add, just along with that with the court study that we're going, we're looking at a court system study. So we're looking at tennis and poker ball. we know. Pick up all has grown, and it's become a big part of the discussions, and then we also know. See you. South and the millennium have major changes coming. So we and and in addition to that, like conversations with see you and the millennium, what's exactly going to happen? Are they replacing some pickle, some of the task of pickleball courts? There's a potential for that. But ultimately we are in the very early stages of the sort of court system study that we know will basically we'll finish up at the end of 2,023. So that's going to look at a lot of things. It's going to look at

[44:04] what's happening right now. And looking at the master plan and taking that as direction. But knowing that there's some new emerging things that weren't necessarily sort of highlighted as we were doing the master plan. So with millennium and see you. So those are kind of big things in the you know, in the community that are happening, that weren't really addressed in the Master Plan. So we're going to look at that level of service. Look at what's happening in our community. Make some adjustments, and then ultimately come up with recommendations on what the future of tennis courts and pickle ball will look like, and that should include things like continued maintenance, of course. But then any kind of new facilities one is actually sort of the number that fits our community and our community, we know, is special and unique, and it's more active than a lot of communities. But comparing those to other very active communities. and looking at outcomes, maintenance and new courts. And, like Mark was saying, with the physically constrained action and vision that gives us the opportunity to look at fiscally constrained. We know that's what we have the funding to do and a process to find out. We find the extra funding to hit the action and potentially that vision

[45:11] with creative funding partnerships and that sort of thing. That was a lot that was probably more than needed. Okay, thank you. Are there any? Yeah. So just to follow up on one thing you said, do we anticipate? And I know there are no plans in place yet, but we anticipate that there may be court capacity added through the C South development. You want to speak to that. You can go for it. It's an interesting thing. I we it depends. We don't really have the partnership with the University in place on that. There is an idea for a couple of neighborhood boxes that goes in. But at this point there Hasn't, been any discussion as well. and using universities. Okay. thank you. I can say that in the study what they'll look at is what we look at, what would be the facilities, and that it will identify sort of partnerships that we should examine moving forward. So see you Bbsd: those sort of things.

[46:16] Thanks, Steve. Yeah, I so what we're where I live in South Pole or I've questioned a large number of passports on the grounds. The high school most considered schools that, of course. right. Bye. Thank you. Are they available for public use? So the way that the school district does some rentals, and so, to be honest, I do not know, maybe for my end, those if they're available for the public to use after school hours, but it is Cbs's policy that their properties are not used during any time. The kids are in school. To be honest, I have not ever seen any public access on those ports, but

[47:00] that i'm not sure if they rent those out members of the public. It's it's quick out of totally. That's all across the street. They are what we do, I said. All hours. Many people Okay. Good to know, but some of you want to do belong to the City Centennial also belongs to Bbsd. and then the ones that are over It's that's 30 Fourth Street. No North boulder. I and then you turn on you said by that's there's courts in North how long? But on that other side it's pretty fun to be right. Okay, let me. Google Mass. Early. But

[48:00] i'm going to guess, based on that response. They're not city. There are 2 North pay low courts. So if it's North payload park that we're talking about in 2 of those courts will be resurfaced in 2,023. That first one something you said, what was the prostate 34. This is the easy way we can. Yeah. another one is because the court said so. The we are on our website, right? We have, like all of our tennis courts, and so obviously the courts direct centers a rapical ridge.

[49:01] We that the property lies like in the middle of supports. I want to say in that one so that one's shared with the school district, but we manage it. Chatauqua, Columbine Park, Mill, Wood, and those are all of our ports that are the property lines in such a way that the school district allows us to continue to manage them. and then the one on the other side it's just called it's like winding trail drive from our winding trail. So if you're looking at the ones just off of, let me look at the craft streets. But in that winding trail neighborhood is a private Hway. Okay. yeah. yeah, our number prior to right. So last year. maybe it was early. No. It was last year we reviewed and approved to join this agreement

[50:01] with Pbsd. They recall that involved the co-use and management of some facilities on school district, property. which I think includes some kind of sports right like the rap out Ridge Park, and otherwise. Are there tennis courts that are on school property? Pbsd. Property, now that we currently do not have access to through the joint disagreement. I let Brian jump in. If he's available. That's sure I can. Bryan Beary (he/him/his): I can jump in on that one real quick. Yes, the only tennis courts that that that are on district property that we have access to are those ones that are rap a Hoot Ridge Park there at Eisenhower. So those are the only ones we have access to Bryan Beary (he/him/his): correct. Okay. we did before we did have more access, but the school board at some point made it so that the school district is required to initiate all of the third party use of their facilities.

[51:06] and Brian might be able to say that in the most accurate way, but well, long story short, is, they want to be in charge of who has access to their ports. so we'll be meeting with the school district on May Fifth, both Brian and I, to look at the joint user agreement again. I'll take a thorough review of the joint agreement, and and make recommendations for changes, and start the discussion for renewal of that agreement on. So that's coming up here just for the next couple of weeks we'll, we'll make sure to to advocate for public access to share the facilities when possible. Hey? Okay, let's move on, then to the consent agenda and the first side of the extent. Agenda is approval from the March twentieth regular meeting. and so and then they'll be followed by approval. Notes from the study session on April third.

[52:04] So I will entertain a motion for a couple of minutes. Okay. A motion up for the minutes. Okay. So we have a second. Yes. second, Great. Okay. Is there any objection to approval of the minutes as they are recorded? Okay, I mean, that's our approved. That was for March twentieth, and then for the April third study session. I may have a motion for approval of those notes so moved. and I will second any objections to approval the minutes from the study section. Okay, you study session, and that's our proof. Our next up we have updates from the W. Director of

[53:01] Absolutely. I wanted to mention within the content agenda that April is volunteer appreciation month, and you all are volunteers. And so we wanted to say, Thank you for the the countless hours and service you provide to the community, and and giving us valuable feedback and and information as well. We try and best serve our community. So I wanted to start off by saying that I also wanted to quite a little bit more in-depth update I mentioned that Scott Corner Park Will Pool will open on May first. We are now, and and making for probably a little bit more about this, because it's her team. But our aquatic staff is really in a great position this this year, and we fired over 150 seasonal employees to work and operate the pools which we are now at a level higher than we were at our highest point all of last summer. So what that means is, we're in really good shape to be able to

[54:02] expand services to the community. We are planning on opening up opening up Spruce Pool this summer, and we'll be doing some some prep work here to get ready for that in the coming weeks. It will be a little bit of a delayed opening, based on some of the the maintenance, as you know that cool. It's not open in 2 years, and and so there's one soon. Once you add water to a pool that Hasn't had a water in it for a couple of years. You never know what you're gonna run into. So we're doing a lot of maintenance to getting things going there so excited about that and making anything to add. Yeah, I know just really excited. I just. I have to say this out loud, because I don't think most people understand this right is that but for we renovated it's not Carpenter. We never needed more than maybe a 120 live birds to open everything. So getting over a 150 for the summer. It's not only more than we had last summer. It's more than we've ever had in the history of our operations as far as number of staff right. And with that said, I know that we still limited full hours. Now our our struggle continues to be people with daytime availability. And so, if anyone knows anyone who's willing to work for us just one week day during the day, we can help make this progress going forward right? We are working on that. But

[55:19] I just. I have to highlight that because the staff really are working really hard, and we do. We do have more of that committed for the summer. Not everyone on there yet, but as long as they work an average of 15 h, just like last summer. By July we had those of our cools full open, everything that we had committed to open. If we have everyone working at least 15 h a week, which is in a huge ass. I think we're going to be looking pretty good. And so right now the averages. They only work about 4 h a week, but that's and we don't have. We're not up to the 1 50 number for this month, right? It starts pretty much when they get out of school but it but but we're really hopeful that I'm really proud of the team's work, and I know that this community has been really wanting to get back in the water, and we want to get everyone back in the water, too. So

[56:10] what are we on paste first of all, that's really exciting, and congrats. That's awesome. So kudos to staff for point that off are we on a to have full operation, or to fully utilize Scott Carpenter Pool, because in the last summer we had some areas that were cordoned off because we didn't have enough people running the pool like the water slides. We're close up while the Place river was open. What's our kind of pace this year? So we'll we'll kind of have our final plan May fifteenth, just because you never know, with some of these kids like who's going to be on vacation for what meets, and I certainly don't want to over promise and under deliver, but based on the numbers I just told you. I mean, our first priority is always going to be stock carpenter. We can. We can host a lot of people there. It's really great place for families, adults, you know, people of all ages. And so that's gonna be our first priority, and so the that lap pool, and you can tell that by opening the lab who early

[57:07] right? And so that black pool being open full hours, and that leisure pool being open as many hours as we normally plan is our first priority. There's certainly some other tiers in there like. If we can add some extra, even time, or some extra little hours in the morning. That's certainly something that we're working on. But I I I can't promise it quite yet. We need to look at how the schedule maps out and i'll, we'll probably have an update after May 15. Thank you so much. Yeah. okay. I was wondering if you could update a little bit about diversity and hiring. I shared out the kind of the parts direct job distance with the boulder, high Latinos in action room with the or the current, the parent group. I was wondering if you got applications that you had.

[58:02] It's part of absolutely, and I can jump into that. So we were this emailing earlier today our our software that we utilize for people that apply for positions work day. It's called now will allow us to basically have the demographic information, and where they found out about the position. And so we're working on gathering those reports at this time we requested our Hr. Department, and so hopefully by next month we can have a an update and provide more information about the diversity of our our team. We have made a big push with summer squad or our matrix team initiative to really try and do all of our our marketing videos and and information about English and Spanish. And I will also say that i'm very excited in that. When you go on the Bpr website in the top right corner you can select any one of 9 languages, and our entire website is available in in those 9 different languages. And so we're trying our best to break down some of those barriers from people applied for positions and and just accessing our programs and services.

[59:09] Okay, Great. Thank you. Okay, let's move on to planning design and construction updates and operations of things. Yeah, we just discussed some of the operations with the with the pool there, mark anything from the basic updates from a planning design construction that you'd like to share. No, nothing in this. Any questions. hey? Nothing from Jason. Nope. Okay. Great. Thank you very much. Next up is items for discussion, information, and the discussion of the P. Policy and budget strategy, which is schedule for 45 min. So let's get into it

[60:02] great. Thank you so much by Jackson. So much for your engagement in the study session earlier this month, and on April third, so and feedback that we received with right. How can we select a lot of that. Thank you. Everyone. Jackson, High business services manager. We are just going to go through this pretty quick for those of you who are here last month. This is really just us recapping what we heard from you, and clarifying the direction as you're going to hear about our timeline. Our next steps are to take this to a city council study session on May eleventh. engage with the community connectors and residents to make sure that we are being inclusive to the overall community prior to making any updates. And then we'll report back so just to let you know that this is really more of a recap Today we're looking for what we didn't capture, or here appropriately. And with that i'm going to try to It's Jackson.

[61:02] So tonight we are going to be looking at our timeline that we gave to you back in February meeting, reviewing our fee development processing goals, which we did look at the study session. But this is for the benefit of anyone. We did not attend that meeting, and then we're be looking at the study session outcomes, and also some staff identified for their action items that the practice has to to look into. We're looking at our program types program benefit levels, and post- recovery targets. We will be discussing the general fund subsidy level at a high level, and then we do have a few questions for you as we do go through this. We just want to remind for us. Well, for budget development, Perhaps they'll make recommendations to the Council concerning any appropriation or expenditure from the permanent parts and migration fund. and I shall make recommendation to the Council concerning the proposed parks and and the annual budget. This outlines our timeline. We are sitting here at the April. Meeting. As Scott mentioned, we do have 2 more touches in with the prior to the 2,024 budget submitted. So we will be coming back in May Mark with giving a cip. Second touch.

[62:14] We will be looking at the Z policy further, and at that point we will get some preliminary 2024 Budget Review. Then, in our June meeting we will give a more finalized 2,024 budget review, and we'll be asking for the permanent parks the IP approval. So the top type of this timeline of web engagement and crab involvement is on the top and staff responsibilities around the bottom. The screen boxes. All right. We looked at the the Department's Fee Development Policy process last month at the Study session, and this time developing the feed policy. The department will follow the same approach as the master plan update. We do want to make sure that we have a lot of community engagement. We want to have an open and collaborative process with a focus on equitable outcomes, and we are working with communications

[63:15] is scheduled the community connector, which will occur some time of June. We are using the master plan as a guideline, and we are doing our research again, looking at those national and regional trends, and then also making the process very inclusive with staff, feedback and involvement. So we are looking into everything that was brought up at the study session, and we're doing a lot of financial governments. Right now. All this will be done under the policy guidance of our Sr. Framework, which is our sustainability, equity, and resilience framework. We are looking at the racial equity tool and the master plan of 22. As you know, we've been very engaged with the prep. Throughout this process. City Council input will be requested at the study session on May eleventh, and then we will be looking at approval for the policy later in 2,023. But doing a lot of work to it, aligned with that 2,024 budget development

[64:14] as we establish the policy, the key 2022 master plan goals and initiatives, I will provide guidance so that we make sure that we are definitely in aligned with community values. We wanna make sure that we're reducing barriers. We're increasing access to our programming, and we're providing programming. That is most important to our community within the resources that we do have available. So you know you're a lot through us that we need to be financially sustainable. The Master Plan has identified a gap in recreation, and our fee policy strategy development is just one way to kind of reduce that funding gap. you know, as we look to establish a policy to set recreation on a sustainable app. And forward. We're really looking to produce that one document that's transparent. It's consistent. It's simplified. So it's easier for staff

[65:09] to utilize, and it's also digestible for our community to understand. So that is our goal in this and our subsidy levels need to be prioritized on how much subsidy we receive our classification of services, community feedback, and also constantly focusing on those programs and services that do have the greatest community benefit. I'll pause real quick and see if there's any questions. This is just a quick recap as far as where we've been so far. Okay, this is really what we had your help with earlier this month. With that you study session we identified as 7 areas with and without that piece originally.

[66:00] That was then expanded to 9 categories of the study session, and it became very evident that we left out the resale items. So we have established the 10 types of programs where we would have a cost recovery, Target examples of those programs and at the benefit level. Something we heard like there was the confusion on the benefit level. So you will see that something an update to indicate. They provide the full range of benefits that's community recreation and exclusive. and then others say recreation or exclusive. This is really to an account for the fact that some of these will not just fit into one category. There is the broad spectrum, and we want to clarify that there is that spectrum of community benefit. That is correct. Everything in the top that doesn't have the right bar next to it is something that Priv is waiting on in the past 3 years, and there is very clear policy on, and those items we really Aren't going to go as in depth on, because we do have so much policy guidance from the various process.

[67:02] Everything that's highlighted in red on the bottom of the page is where we feel as if there isn't clear defined policy that's been updated on a regularly current basis. So that is where we are going to the majority of our time. What we have heard is the need for clear definitions, defining all of the types of uses and developing that policy with with the cost, recovery, target associated with it. So we did hear that there is a desire to start with, a set of it starts, and then it has a program becomes more of its whole life cycle. There may become a higher cost recovery target, if something that requires less community benefit, and it's basically graduated onto. or that's so on this next slide we do have more of the detailed analysis here. As far as what we told you, you will see that the examples remain relatively unchanged as well as the frequency of Review.

[68:05] These are the ones that Don't have a set policy. So our goal is to incorporate all these into the fee policy which would then take effect. Starting in 2,024 something that we did add. As Well, that didn't highlight earlier is the open access this is access to our parks or playgrounds or skate parks. These are items that we are assets that we don't really ever see charging any facility access for you to use. We think that there is so much community benefit of parks and open space that there will just continue to be no fee associated with this. Nor do we want to sit there and charge every kid to go down the slide. That's the same part. And we do have 3 of us any questions on these program areas.

[69:02] Okay, on the next slide is the types without a set policy. A lot of this is very similar. You will see that the bottom line is added. The the resale items. We did try to provide a few examples. This is locks for lockers, correct centers, food, clothing for resale, that we have currently the golf course, and it may expand elsewhere. And typically this is based on what our costs are. Or we do have this as recreation or exclusive, because there's things such as some neighbors that you really want as a recreation access. if you have a parent there, and I reckon with the toddler, and they forgot a some diaper. You really want them to give them a pool and take advantage of the facility where something like a golf club, we may not provide at our direct costs there may be some marked up, for that's the of access of it into something that is considered more of a melody. Add on to the feature.

[70:00] So that is really the background as far as everything that we have covered. Are there any questions on these types without a set policy? I do have 1 one question. So I see a real tension. You already mentioned that that these So there's a real section between identifying things as the recreation or or community benefit level. and almost any one of these they can argue that there's a community benefit to it. So for the user groups that are trying to get access to our facilities. How do we explain to them? How do we? How do we define those? For those edges are between the different categories. And how do we help users understand how their particular activity fits within these?

[71:01] What they can do about it like. If you did this, you might move to a different benefit, Bubble, that would really reduce your access cost. I'm thinking of the reservoir. some of the product masters and the growing team, and all that. So the intention, when we come back with the formal policy, is to have a very clear definition that describes it. But then also the benefit level, identifying kind of the spectrum of those services. And what is a recreation? What is an exclusive and that is something that the proper way. And on. I know that several other peer agencies that we're looking at. They list out all 200 types of programs that they have, and that's something that the way, you know, on upfront. I think the difficulty with this is as we expand or see new sports emerge pickleball. 10 years ago, probably, when I've been on a few policy whatsoever. that it will require some concept review in our fission. But then, with that we did hear that there should be some sort of appeal process. If there is disagreement over the categorization we have. and I think that Staff has our own interpretation, and we're looking for the prep to give the final stamp of approval that everything, all of the services that

[72:11] that we've currently identified and defined confidence, one of these categories, and you agree with where the cost recovery is. and that way it is clear to user groups the average individual. Where does the birthday party fit? Versus where it is a what you fit Versus where does a a private buy out of a pool that could you? Could you imagine, like the scoring system or something? Is that. Yes, I think we heard it and clear we wanted some sort of subjective measure to all back on. Okay. Yeah, I was just gonna follow up that, say I would. I would like to see some criteria for what you know. Exclusive groups are for what community benefit is, and we'll see within our recreation, priority, index. So everything that falls under our recreation services

[73:01] we do have the you need as far as you metrics right now. What we found is that's incredibly difficult to apply to things that aren't typical of recreation services that are more more the golf course access. So we're looking at how we can tweak that tool to apply to a broader spectrum of the overall program types. Yeah, for the recreation priority Index, which was approved by Grab, like in 2,014. It does. It is a It is a measure of that exact thing of what's exclusive and what it's not, and it and it's. And then, in addition to that, what we have to do is say how much subsidy we even have to then share out across these priorities. And so I mean. I at least like to think that nothing that we do in parks and recreation is that some type of treated you benefit the whole purpose of our existence. Existence is for the community benefit and right. And so it it does become.

[74:00] You have to prioritize things over others. We do have ways to measure that. And we have, you know, established practice and policy approved by the prep previously for specifically recreation services and a lot of things on this other list do correlate right, and I will say in best practice. third party usage. That's it. It gets great, but you can either do a lot of people do it where it's always a 100% or more cost recovery, because it's not directly offered. But again, I think what this is doing is looking at it a little bit more more niche that we that we maybe have, which I think is what the community is asking for. So that's if that helps any other questions. Okay, i'm going to turn this over to sure. All right. So a large part of the exercise that we did with the I was looking at cost. Recovery cost recovery is, you know, C. Cr: so just to get away from our abbreviations and acronyms here. So when we look at the study session

[75:10] outcome. You know we heard love and clear that from you. Want to make Vpr as available as possible to all right. We want our programs, and what we do here to be accessible to the community. So that is at the forefront of everything that we'd like to be on. You know we do need to clearly define those cost, recover free targets per program area, and we will be looking at things that are specific and measurable and getting clear definitions for that that in the process we'll be looking at, simplifying that for staff and making it a little bit easier, and giving them new tools so that they can plug things in a little bit easier and come up with those tallies. And then also with some of this presenting that to the community into the public. When asked about it. We are definitely evaluating contract programming for use groups that provide financial assistance. So it is a consideration that we will be working with those groups, and just again making sure that our programs are accessible and burning that scope of participation.

[76:14] Further action that staff will be doing, we will be conducting the financial analysis for the proposed See our targets. So we are going through all of our programs right now, looking at where we need to be doing marketplace analysis also, looking at those benchmark communities and seeing how we do align with them. so that we can establish those clear cost, recovery target range for each program type, and then also define that. Why, right? Which I think is some of your questions you've had tonight is, why are we doing this? Why is it in that benefit level? And then we're gonna be looking to create a simple visual to identify those cost recovery targets for program types. So working on that with our marketing team as soon as we get a little bit further on in the data, so that we'll have some something that's visual to show the community.

[77:03] As we look at that right off the Bpr program, category set right is right out of our master plan on that graphic. So we do know. The community surveys that we've done, and we have to find that you know more community. We have a higher subsidy level by recreational, all somewhat in the middle, and then the exclusive is more individual, but has more of that low subsidy. So that is some of the guidance that we'll be using, which comes out with a master plan. Questions on that. Okay, the moment that you've all been waiting for this is the cost recovery targets. And this is the Prep. Exercise analysis. So when we came to you at the study session with those big sheets of paper that I've been carrying around now for a couple weeks. We asked you that you kind of which you're scoring on our different programs on where you felt that they would fall, and we asked you to basically look at no costs

[78:09] cost recovery, and did cost recovery high cost recovery, and then 100 plus cost recovery. We didn't really want you to look at the percentages we in place percentages in there. This is a guideline, because what I might think is a little cost recovery, maybe something totally different than what Jackson would think of. So we're just really looking at where you go in those overall categories, not the percentages. So for the community. The feedback basically was that it would be no cost to low cost for most of the community programs, meaning that subsidy or taxes would provide most of the support for these programs or services as we look through our recreation. Okay, okay. it's out in the mid to high cost recovery, meaning that we would be a funded with the balance of some of the and use for those falling in that lower range, and then the low. So we just really did fluctuate. We'll look at the details from load of high depending on the program service offering that we had. And then in the exclusive category I pretty much consistently came through it high to 100 plus cost recovery. So this means that those programs would be primarily funded through user fees possible.

[79:25] I believe, with some subsidy reports depending on the up program, and also that the weigh in that some successful exclusive programs may see full cost recovery based on market that you would created some things. So we'll just advance now. And just look at the individual results for the question. So the is a 100%. Is that 100% cost recovery, or is it so? We did have high cost recovery, going up to 100, and then we did have a category of 100. So are there some programs that the Department is offering in which we would be getting 100 plus cost recovery. So you could have an exclusive

[80:08] program that gets less cost properly than a recreation programmer for the current. I think that is an area where you are going to see some overlap a recreation program. But it's is that his full lifecycle will probably be at 99% where is an exclusive program that we are just introducing for the first time may not be at the full 100%, and that is able. That's an opportunity for us to be able to introduce a program tested out. Get people interested in. Then it's a full cost recovery and saw things setting based on the program offering. And I think you all are highlighting. The fact that there is some overlap, some subjectivity within these different peers and types. So that is something that we are trying to further clarify.

[81:05] But once again, this is based on your feedback. From exercise you did so. Our next slide is to show you where the rest of your peers landed on this exercise, and it was actually very interesting for us to go through and look at together. Okay. So this is the proposed cost recovery. This which you want to be back on most of the line items. We will have a score of 5. There were a few where we only had about 4, so community programs that enhance the health, safety and liability of the community, and therefore require minimal obstacles to participation for a facility access. We asked you to basically rank access with financial assistance, and then also facility, child care. And, as you can see, most other results were well into a no cost or a low cost recovery. We did have one person put in mid cost range for the child care so pretty much. Everyone was in the same 2 buckets on their results

[82:12] as we look to the golf course, use lessons. So from the low cost recovery through a high cost recovery. Also, there was a broader range of feedback on that. and then expand programming, which is programming for our people with disabilities was either at a no cost or a very low cost recovery, so meaning that that program would get very high sub speed levels as we move into our recreation services subsidized camps. So those camps that were basically being provided for families so that they would be able to work. So in a child. Care Day cam was, you know, cost, or at a high distance, size, so a low cost. Recovery expand again.

[83:01] came in at that no cost to a low cost, and then by aside, which is our youth, Services initiative. So our programs are you from the community again to no cost to our low cost. So all these programs being. you know, more subscribed by taxes and a little bit by user fees, open access. Everyone was in agreement that it should all be no cost. Listen twice. Why, Don't, you just have to expand, and then so underneath the golf course. They actually do have a program for our expand group that goes out and uses the golf course that they can learn to play golf and have an interactive programming. So it is a separate program that's run at the golf course specifically to the golf course. So we wanted to gather feedback on how everyone felt that that should have a fee to it or not, we would call the somewhat viewed as recreation or exclusive. The rest of the expand programs are all like Yes, in one area. Yeah, no cost or a low cost recovery. So

[84:07] that first 2 levels we all can separate out the golf course as a sort of a separate item, just because it's so unique. And it's kind of that's 106 we definitely tend to. And I think. of course, there is community items that provided in order to highlight with you what the example of the communities benefits were at. The Of course these were just 2 programs that wouldn't be us to conceptualize the modest audience. What is telling is most of everything isn't no no costs are low cost with a couple of outliers on the mid cost recovery. This.

[85:00] my general recap, is. This is very consistent to what the current prices are for cost recovery, targets are these program areas? So it seems as if there is a general perception that Staff is doing what travel lines with. But the next step is to actually get all of this into a policy and bring it back to you. So it's visual for community members as well as staff, to understand the reason why behind it. So during our study session, Jason and we are not present. is there? They have an opportunity to my end on these. Yeah, I think that we can email them to exercise and ask them to complete it and pull it out. They've now seen the answer results, and you have homework, government. Buddy, hey? I I was. I was at the study session. I did. I did actually part of the isn't it part of the public record. Now I saw that in the

[86:05] so. Yes, we're more than happy to some of that to do something in. I need it, and we'll pull up on that. Jason. Are there any other questions on the community side. hey? Moving over to the recreation programs that benefit a broad range of users and are targeted to promote physical and mental health, and well being where a lot of our programs fall in this level. as we look to the facility, access to the facility entry. As we have updated that program type. Looking at the 3 recreation centers, the group had weed in on any cost recovery to a high cost recovery in placing access to the centers. Our outdoor pools mainly fell in that mid cost recovery. However, we did have a higher cost. Recovery Any cost recovery of over 100%,

[87:09] and the boulder reservoir, looking at a mid cost recovery with one person. The majority did fall in that high cost recovery. And then also I over 100% for cost recovery. So i'll just pause there and see if there's any questions or comments Alright, and services. Adults Fourth Fleet fell up from the low cost recovery, but the majority did sit in a high cost recovery aquatics. Linux I think it was a this in interpretation of what that meant anywhere from a low cost, recovery through a high cost, Recovery gymnastics in that mid cost recovery range then also being on the higher side, and 100 plus for 2 individuals, camps setting up that lower cost recovery through that high cost recovery.

[88:11] As we go down to special events again more that made it to 100 plus range specifically for the Halloween driving. We did have a low cost recovery, and then again more on that high to 100 bus rentals and access rename to rentals and reservations. Looking at that sports field rental, you know one for some had weighted that it should be at a low cost. Recovery on the rest of the group had placed it more into a high or 100 less cost recovery. My general observation with the recreation categories is this is where we saw the broadest range of input as far as what the cost recovery target should be, and I think that this is an area that we struggle with internally as staff.

[89:03] because there are so many varying aspects of community benefit, and it's not as clear and dry as anything that is truly exclusive or truly unity oriented. So it was great to see that there is the spread, and brought us the opinion here. and I think this is the slide. We would welcome any other feedback or questions on. Yeah. I'm: so a. Yeah. For this one it was. Focus more on. So if you had. Well, yes, no, but more advanced. So if you had a swin stroke clinic, so not your entry level. You've learned to swim programs, but if you were going to that next level, and maybe taking the kid, I wasn't preparing them for a swim team right and strengthening those skills, or if we had adults, one clinics or anything that would be more in that

[90:04] and a robotics range. So a special little bit more specialized preparation than your basic learn to swim where we had on the community benefit. Okay, so use the lesson. you know, full under recreation services. Okay. possible. I think that should be broken out as a separate. I think it's important enough. I think it's a basic skill that you know to address how every kitchen on. regardless of your income. I you know this is like. The first thing I did is remember this body and that, like that was happening with that support. I can't remember what it, but not for every single thing, but thinking about something like a reservoir where it looks like majority of a skewed towards higher cost recovery. I just don't worry that we're not

[91:02] on uses of that facility, and you know whether or not certain activities have it so. They may be higher or lower with the facility access. This is specifically tied to the 8 entrance fee. So the reservoir was an example where you could have various types of programs. There you have the facility and access which is your intrancy. You have the special events of their etc. You have the rentals of access, for am. See you rowing. You name it for some of the access at the facility. But I think that the older reservoir facility access is specifically to enter the facility, which is a paid facility 6 months of the year. But then, what you do with that facility would fall under the other. Thanks. It's really interesting when you talk about the reservoir, because there's a lot of of debate, as many of you know, as to

[92:06] what services should be provided by the city, and what should be considered an external group of Larry spoke to it tonight with the open water swim and open water swim you could look at as being a a more individual benefit Activity, although we know both waters from this is a great healthy activity, so the question becomes, do they fall under a rental group when they're outside of business hours. We certainly encourage open water. Swim on the time we open at 6 am. Until the time we close. But when you get into the discussion of of the 4 h early setup and those kind of things, you know. I think that's where this gets complicated and what we're trying to do here is avoid giving you. How many fees do we have? 30,000 for these 200 or 350, so we could go through and pick each and every one of those. But I think this was just to give some

[93:03] general examples. Motor road, boat storage. you know. Really, this is just access to get in there. And so we've already thrown some things into the exclusive. I think there needs to continue to potentially be discussion with this group as to whether or not a group like Bam setting up and doing open water, swim, and community members are all welcome to come to that? Is that a exclusive access? Or is that a a recreation service? Or is that a community benefit group? Members might argue that it's a community benefit up ultimately. That's what we need your help in in determining I I am looking at this again. I think i'm now about that. That just access to the facility for an individual might, I would probably put it a lower cost recovery.

[94:01] So we're gonna monetize that person in other ways. What storage is discussed eventually. Rentals. Thank you. You're getting us to the questions. Any other feedback on the recreation slide. If you qualified for financial systems theoretically in charge, yeah, I really guess the question I would have about that is that'd say, look, income person might qualify presents himself with a guard shack. How does that it I should go. It's it's it's like we've qualified it like maybe they don't know that there's a program available in 2022 14 of all visitations at the outdoor pools 3 rec centers and board resort, or based on individuals who had a

[95:00] You have to have that past advance. Right? Yeah. It takes about 3 days like from when you're planning to make your documentation and you have to go to the helps available, and it shows up. They get more proactive in terms of the right people that the program exists. I think another issue with the program is that currently, there are hard limits on income. and we're trying to change that I have more a more graduated scale. Sure. the more the more you make. You might still get some benefit. Not as much as if you didn't make it. That's that's a good change. Yeah. that's correct. Right? We're not here, then correct it was. You should have okay, 102 exclusive. So this is programs targeted to specific individuals or user groups with limited community back. Such

[96:02] recreation services, such as voting at the reservoir that's pretty much all, and that 100 plus going. But in time one person did have it at the mid cost recovery team, gymnastics. What's more of the high cost recovery to 100 plus in personal training all 5 responses for looking at the golf course we have around this call, sitting more at a high cost recovery into a 100 percent plus cost recovery, and then range fees on one individual thing in a minute range, and then everyone else getting 100 plus. We look at our rentals and reservations. We have rentals for swimming, coming in at a low cost. Recovery. No, in it was in the mid range. and then we did have the higher in the 100 plus for the other 4 answers sports field. Reynolds came in, one at the low

[97:02] that just flip flap that the high and the 100% in that category. And then most of our rentals did come in at a high or 100% cost recovery a contracted programming. So contracted programming is program that is offered in in like an outside partnership. You're saying we have goats and Gardens camp and a high cost recovery. and then also gone to tennis. Other programs that came in mainly at a high cost recovery one for a 100%, and then it recovery underneath that. So again, now, this results kind of show that most of these programs should be supported mainly by the user any any questions or comments on this, like, so tennis is children's time. It's all over the board. They have everything from children's entry level many mighty tidies, tennis and pickle ball to older adults, tennis and football or individual.

[98:14] Okay. So we do see that very common different cost recovery targets for beginner intermediate advanced. So that is something that we would incorporate into. Here I begin our tennis lesson. You would probably error towards more of the yeah additional costs for less cost recovery, and then a more advanced plus for a goal, maybe on a higher and 5% cost recovery. Still teaching those classes. Sometimes he still any questions on this slide at all like that.

[99:01] Okay. So all this kind of tight back into the general fund subsidy currently in 2,023. We are receiving about 2.1 million as a general fund subsidy. So we've identified that this really funds 3 different categories working from the top down on that trip on the left you have the green, which is a department funded program manager. That is putting the you services. So once again, master plan directions really focus on these services. This goes out into the community. Primarily. Our manufactured home sites to provide recreation for people with memberside rather than making them come to X. Mars just below that in the great you have financial assistance. This is the financially program we talked about where you can get through access fees to access all of our facilities. In addition to that, we do offer a $400

[100:04] for registered programs and then play. Pass also feeds into this with $250 per participant. Well, that you know each base discounts currently for you, we provide about a 40% discount compared to the adult rates, and that's based on the community feedback that it is important to develop lifelong habits at an early age, and then, on the cover side of that, you have the senior discount with approximately 25%, our other adults. This is once again encouraging the lifelong public. Well, being an individual, so is there a base discounts at the very bottom. You have the access to inclusion. access to inclusion, services on expand, which is our program for people with disabilities, as well as the Wi-fi services. So currently it is 2.1 million dollars of funding that goes towards these community benefit programs.

[101:00] There was $500,000 $500,000 as a one time contribution in 2023, and with that we would receive a subsidy of 1.6 million dollars. as you can see it's there is subsidy provided, and we do have a limited amount of that. We can't program every dollar to every program as great as it would be to have low cost entrance to every type of program facility that we do offer. So what we'll see is how we allocate the funding and sort of consistent with what the master Plan direction was. And we do look at this on an annual basis, and really review it closely with the finance department as we go through the city by budget process, since the general fund does help subsidize this. So over the coming weeks we are working internally with our peers. You're seeing more of the city's financial picture going into the 2,024 budget development to get a better understanding of. But what's up to you that will exist, and how we can help further maintain our existing subsidy level without relying so much on the general fund.

[102:10] so that may mean that we have to further increase fees to help provide this ongoing subsidy to those who rely on it most. and something that you all had asked for was just benchmarking to comparable communities to understand what percentage financial aid and scholarship is awarded. and that is something that we So I know that this is something that we always struggle with. Every year. Parks and migration use this as a community benefit the full stack. We wish we could give more than the 2.1 million dollars. But this does come from general fund funding, which is a city white resource. So we think that we've done a very good job of telling our story and having the data metrics now comes associated with this or how this subsidy is really benefiting the individual users with the community as a whole.

[103:03] and we'll continue to highlight the successes there any questions online subsidy? All right. So with the development policy, we just have some next steps to share with you. Kind of it's this on the timeline. But on May eleventh that is City Council study session. We'll be bringing you on the Bpr. Of the policy to that study session. Looking at this program, Tr: to set policies looking to get some counsel feedback looking at the benefit levels just to make sure that we are in line, and then discussing some cost recovery targets moving into May, we will share recommendations for 2024 service levels and fees with the app. I just wanted to let everyone know at that point, if you policy will not be fully developed, so this will be a work in progress, but you will receive an update

[104:03] in June. We will have our community connectors. So we did have a meeting with communications last week and date to be determined. But we will be bringing this to community connectors, and basically so utilizing the racial equity instrument to evaluate our draft see policy. We want to make sure that we are using that tool within the city to making sure we're being equitable and looking through all the lenses. June 26 is the next prep meeting in June we'll be sharing some feedback asking for to approve. See policy structure so that we can continue our work. and i'll go. I. They're going to be a separate meeting to discuss the financially. What's that? All part of this? I think the the financial program will probably feed into a bigger discussion at a future date. Outside of this, currently, the financially program is very well established. We do receive Grant funding to continue to support it.

[105:08] I think that the ask and lift required to look at a sliding scale or tier based financial. A program is more outside of the scope if you policy update, but something that was. I don't find in the master plan as a key priority that I think we address in the first 2 years. I'm talking more. Not about too much about the setting scale, more about like the kind of operation logistics around. I Okay. Yeah, I think we can definitely have that conversation. And so we'll add that to a future pract meeting to talk about, separate from the feed policy, so i'll take a look at the the calendar of presentation. So what we have go on each meeting and figure out where we can get it in there, because I think it is an important piece in the meantime, you know, could continue to communicate the opportunities and related to marketing and communication that team reports to me within our department, so i'd be happy to just meet and hear feedback or thoughts.

[106:12] but we certainly want to share the whole. the entire plan, and and how we're addressing financially with this group, so I that's the calendar. which is. we can discuss that in the next vision the settings meeting as well. But on the outer calendar would you mind giving a just, a really quick summary of the community connectors program for our new members. Yeah. Communications and engagement. It works with community connectors, their individuals around the community typically from underrepresented groups that have traditionally not been involved in government decision making or sharing feedback they need Once a week, on Friday morning. It's they you receive a small type of segment of their time, and they're really intended to ride that connection to other community members.

[107:08] where there is already a close knit community in the community launch to share with the cities doing to build trust. That's also the other feedback. And here, what could make city services and programs a better resource to them. So it's a very 2 way dialogue and an opportunity to ensure that the city is reached out to those underrepresented groups that a good one. Sorry. good. Is there some type of like report, or I'm going to summarize kinds of feedback that you've got in the past year, and any changes that have been made as a result of connector. Input This is the first time we've gone to community connector since the master plan is adopted. Last summer community connectors are for all city departments, so

[108:02] i'm sure we can reach up to them. Yeah, Well, in the so the community connectors. They're paid for their time, but they're also acting in this capacity of the goodness of their hearts right. And so we don't try to go to them for every single ask for saying, because it's it's you can over utilize a resource, and you could burn a bridge right, and we don't want to do that. We want to make sure that we prioritize the most important things to go with them to go to them, for so I know, like as a whole city. We're really thoughtful about how we're utilizing the community connectors, and where we can use other racial activity, tools and toolkits that we have in our schools. So you go with to them with specific question. You don't just say like me. Anybody could have come to us and give it to us correct. We get 30 min for a staff presentation, and that questions, and then 30 min for answers, so it'll be quick.

[109:03] and I think the benefit to this is as part of my creation individuals. We get embedded in our services, our academics. and there is a very thorough city presentation to break down the acronyms break down the services and get it as plain as possible. Yeah, for the individuals, for in good English second language, individuals, or any that speak English. There is that communicate for translation available to them to help make sure that everything is understand. Yeah. So we have 4 questions for you. I think that a lot of these have been answered throughout. But the first question is related to the revised structure of the fee policy. This is a reminder. This is the 10 types identified here along with the new names, and

[110:15] you will see this at least 2 more times. So if you don't have feedback today, that is totally fine. I think it's an improvement. So thank you. Second question is, it's like the board's input at the April Study session, Bernie, or you had some areas of clarification, and we will send out exercise as homework to you both of the and need to to to that feedback as well. Is there any additional feedbacks for any proposed called recovery targets.

[111:04] Jason, I saw you sorry. I just realized I was off camera. But no, I know it. I agree. Thank you for making those revisions from the conversation we had earlier in the month. I don't have any questions. and then for is there any additional feedback related to funding community benefit recreation. I think we have a discussion during your presentation. Okay, very helpful. It's good. Well, thank you. Everyone. And do you feel free to tune into the City Council Study session on May eleventh, if you'd like to Ccd. Couples. Conversation related to this next up. We have matters from the department. How do you access the parking improvements? Feasible it's studying.

[112:03] and first time run down on this. So it should be about 30 min pretty much right, like a little bit longer depending on customs. Yeah, Happy to introduce this. It is the Cousin View project. It's been the pipeline for a few years that I was Scott for you, Rich Fe, and the planning department was running this project, and we were looking when Darren Wagner was able to pick this up as project manager last year, when she arrived to see me Allergic. Ask him, architect. and it has a transport background. and we've also been working with consultants, the Fox Tunnel Transportation Group, and the this group and that, just like I know it's been a really good collaboration between our consultants and the epr staff. The project has 3 main purposes to address safety concerns within the existing part of it is really major at the renewal of of kids. They all in that very major making sense, and it's the encourage you to and accessible we do find. and then to think about and provide options for all the full marketing. So with that i'll pass you over to Darren is Project manager. Take it away, and

[113:15] thanks so much, Mark. I just wanna make sure that our consultants are able to share their screen. I know the bill is working on that and Rose. I'm sure you're supporting him so hopefully that'll come online soon, but as that's happening I will say good evening. Thank you for the things in advance for the time for the new members. Nice to meet you virtually is Mark 7 and Darren Wagner. I'm just gonna give a a few introduction slides to set us up for this conversation with our consultants. They've done a really wonderful job helping us through the analysis and recommendations to his events. If you could go to the next slide. just to introduce how we've set this process up. You know it was originally, as Mark said it, emerging out of this need to address the safety concerns that they will describe, as well as the parking congestion that's really having impacts

[114:12] in the surrounding areas as well. As for you know, our our community who's using the facility and out of 10 guests to her who are coming from elsewhere. and really knowing that the regional games and tournaments that we're talking about, it's very difficult, because they do draw it visitors from outside the city and county, and sometimes state that they're not always conducive to multimodal solutions, as as or sometimes other issues. So the and now we're ready for the next slide. The The purpose of the project is really meant to how how we can advance the various goals that are in our various master plans. So, for example, as, as Mark said, it's been a collaborative process. That's also been with our our Our our colleagues over in the transportation department. So we have greens in our master plan, as do they. And there's

[115:14] There's also a citywide access management and parking strategy that has goals around, you know, multimodal access and and other ways of reducing parking demand. So we really try to integrate these as we move the project forward. and in terms of the process. There may be a little bit of a delay here, but we are. We set this up with the first phase really being around if you can go to the next slide, Bill. starting with this existing conditions analysis as part of this feasibility study. So I want to say that you know, as we've defined the effort that we're going through now, you know, there in the past, I think, being questions about what is a feasibility study? It's really something that happens ahead of much engagement with the community. It's a way to to see what options from a technical standpoint are on the table.

[116:11] Identify any red flags that you know may take certain things off the table. and helps us understand what cost. Estimates can help guide conversations with the with the community before before we look at implementation. So, as we look at concluding this feasibility, study, our next steps will be to then really reach out in more depth to our our stakeholders in the Soccer Rugby community as well as the neighbors in the immediate surrounding areas. And then, as we'll talk through tonight, and you saw in the memo we're looking at ways we may need to phase implementation. There's certainly some things we want to be able to move on quickly some operational improvements. and there will be follow up, for some of the capital improvements follow up

[117:00] design, and permitting that will help us finalize our approach to some of the construction aspects. and you know what we what you'll see tonight is is a description of these general concepts. Again, we're not making decisions tonight as much as really looking for your input and and support and and guidance as we think about these next steps moving forward. So with that I'd love to introduce our consultants. Bill Karen, from the Fox Title Transportation Group will be doing the presentation tonight. We've also been really supported by Leslie Yuy with the transfer, but with the Sanita group, providing the civil engineering and design concepts for us and cost estimating. So it's a great team bill. I will let you take it from here and thanks again for everyone's time tonight. Thank you, Darren. Can everybody hear me? Yeah. Yeah. So again. Great job introducing the the nature of the issues that were

[118:05] trying to address with this project. Fox Settle in the neatest group, have done a lot of work for the City of boulder in the past. We're certainly very aware of the access issues that exist around the the pleasant view sports complex, and we're very excited to be able to work on this piece of a feasibility study for you. Our first step in this project was to kind of identify the infrastructure around the site to help understand what the existing conditions would be. And this this graphic kind of shows that the site, as you know. sits adjacent to 47 Street in North Korea on highway. The has a. It's a large set of multiple sports fields, and it has one main entrance off the east side. That is the only way to get in and out of the site

[119:01] most of the time, and all of the access is focused at that point. There's one access point off of 47 Street. leading into a parking lot that has 416 parking spaces, as well as by cracks that will house, 74 bicycles. There is a relatively good bicycle access to this site along the formal Creek path and along the Irish path leading down to the diagonal as well as along the bike lines on 47 Street, the one missing link in bicycle access. Here is the county avenue which is a major roadway leading out to the west, and which does not have any bicycle facilities on it. There's also pretty good transit service in the area, primarily the bolt service and route

[120:01] 205, and we considered all of that in in determining what access possibilities there would be for this site. Next thing we did was look at sort of the historic data We, Fox Subtle had done previously, done a parking study in 2,010 at that time. you know, 13 years ago Already the site was experiencing very high usage. There were times where it was close to 100% occupied. We also looked at the crash history internal to the site. We looked at a 5 year period of time. We we looked at reviews on Google maps for people who use the site. There are very many people who talk about their experience at Pleasant View

[121:01] sports complex on the Google Maps. Most of those comments are very positive. but when they came to access and parking. They were not. They were predominantly negative. And then we also looked at a variety of related plans that you, the Parks and Rec department, had previously put together. From that we were able to put together a data collection plan that data collection plan included. Looking at the parking utilization on the site. we went out and and looked at that. Saturday, October fifteenth, and Sunday, October sixteenth. We looked at again, parking utilization, both on the site and then off site in the nearby neighborhood and in the church parking lot. We also looked at bicycle and pedestrian access, both moving through the site and and also again along the count be a quarter to understand what the conditions there might be, and

[122:00] and how that might be a limiting factor to people walking and biking onto the site of our findings included that there were 4 crashes on the site. One of them was this serious injury, Crash! And this really relates to a very specific access challenge that exists on the site, the the paths, path system to the north and the fast system to the South connect actually by going right through your parking lot, and there was a a situation where a cyclist was coming through the parking lot off. That path was almost hit by a car. I went down and and was seriously injured, so that was very noteworthy. We also were able to determine parking congestion significant on the weekends. Not so much so during the weekday, and most significant on Saturday at least for the day.

[123:08] The weekend that we took a look at it. Saturday was significantly worse than Sunday. There did not, for this particular weekend seem to be much in the way of parking impact on the surrounding neighborhood streets. but there was quite a bit of parking in the cavalry Bible Church parking lot. There was also illegal parking along Calmedia, legal parking along 47 Street and people parking in the friend's school lot. There were over 2,000 vehicles that entered the site. The site was at at times well, this with 416 parking spaces. There were times when there were 500 vehicles in the parking lot. so that would be

[124:01] almost all, if not all parking spaces full. and a tremendous number of vehicles circulating, trying to find parking spaces. and there were 17 different half hour time periods that we studied in which the parking lot was over a 100% utilized on that Saturday completely different story. On Sunday, Sunday, the the peak barking utilization was never more than 57% a and really didn't experience the same kind of challenges. So this drew us to a few conclusions. There is adequate parking and reasonable access During the week days the challenges occur on the weekends, and again, based on this one weekend that we studied, it would appear that Saturday is much worse than Sunday. The parking supply is inadequate for that peak period. This results in significant congestion, and certainly what we perceive to be safety issues for people driving

[125:04] people by screen and people walking internal to the site of which there was quite a bit of all that in inadequate parking, and the lot resulted in a lot of offsite parking, particularly in the Calvary Bible Church, but also in some other undesirable locations. The design is a parking lot, and the connecting multi-pass system to the north and south again requires people to walk or bike through the parking lot to move between these facilities. This creates a significant potential for conflict. and again did result in one severe crash in the last 5 years. because the parking lot only has one entrance and exit. There's a lot of congestion at times when people are trying when one, like a an event releases, and another event is coming in. What one entrance and exit is not much for the amount of activity that is occurring on the site.

[126:06] So, and then the fact that you're that you're entirely focused on the east side with your main entrance. and that requires a lot of out of direction travel for people who are walking, biking, or parking in places other than the lot that that that is an impact to focusing all of the access on the east side of your site. And then last, you know, this lack of bike and pedestrian facilities on county are noteworthy. The cities a low stress walking bike network does call for there to be bike lanes, preferably buffered bike lanes on that corridor. There's no plans to do that at this time. and the the data that we collected showed that the speeds on that roadway we're very high and

[127:00] standard bike lanes might not be the best bicycle facility to encourage youths to walk or bike to the facility. So with that in mind, our team in concert, with great staff from parks and recreation. we're able to come up with a series of recommendations that we hope will help mitigate these access issues. This Graphic. This just shows the total of all of the improvements. But don't worry too much about that. I'm gonna go through each of them individually. The first thing that you could do is really more operational, and that is to lean into the availability of parking in the cavalry rival church, and come up with some kind of more formal shared, parking arrangement with them again. You've got 416 parking spaces in your a lot. They have

[128:03] over 300 parking spaces in their lot. and they already are allowing vehicles to park there. They They been very generous. So okay. some kind of an arrangement with them, I think, could go a long way to mitigating some of your access issues. The we also came up with a few capital projects, both short term and long term. The first capital project is associated with the challenge of pick up and drop off on the site Today The pick up and drop off area just runs along the east side here, and when you are done picking up and dropping off. you are flushed into the parking lot to try and work your way back out again. That really adds to the congestion within the site. And so this idea is to create a a turnaround area that would allow

[129:07] that to happen without people going into the parking lot and reducing that congestion by reducing that congestion, reducing the potential for conflict between people who are walking and Viking on the site. The other thing that this would do is if you wanted to create other offsite facilities and potentially shuttle people from there to this site. Something like what occurs at the Chatauqua site as part of the Chatauqua access management plan. This would actually let you bring shuttles and vans onto the site, drop people off and circulate them through. That would be super challenging to do the way your parking lot is configured today. This improvement is estimated at a cost of $707,000.

[130:02] Other capital project which could be constructed in the short term, is a can a vehicular connection south from the parking lot to tell me. Yeah. the primary benefit of this would be in concert with coming up with a a shared parking agreement with the Calvary Bible Church. If If you were able to do that. This would allow people to enter the parking lot, ascertain that there were not parking spaces available to them. move directly on to tell me and move to wherever the the overflow parking is located again. Probably the about the coverage Bible church. and that would prevent them from having to go back out onto roadways like 47 Jay Road Diagonal Highway, 20 Eighth Street. It's not very sustainable to send people out and around when they could make a much shorter journey this way. So

[131:01] this is a a possible improvement. It also involves making a path connection here. This improvement would allow People who are walking and biking along the gravel path here, or I don't tell me to come and enter the site along the west side, and not have to go around and through the parking lot this way. You think that would be a significant improvement as well. And then the last thing is that this alternative would allow you, if you were so inclined to add parking to add in an additional potential 47 parking spaces here. If you did, that that would increase your onsite parking supply by about 11%. And the combination of all of these things is the price tag of a 961,000. 2 other lower cost improvements that we think could be done more in the short term improving the Ada parking

[132:09] it. You have, you currently have enough 88 parking in your parking lot. In fact, you have more than Federal standards would require. However, it is often used by people who shouldn't be using it or like in this case in this picture people will park in the access files. So some changes to the way that these parking spaces are striped as well as constructing wider a sidewalk slash path adjacent to them, which would then allow them to back load. which which is a a very common way of Ada access. At this point. These improvements would cost about $42,000.

[133:03] Another one would be constructing a new access gate on the west side of the site. This would some of the concerns that have been raised about people having to go all the way around to the East Side. It would also make a very direct connection to potential overflow parking at the Calgary Bible Church. So it's. It would be a improvement well connected to your shared parking agreement with the Church. and that would have a right stack of 41,000, and then there are some longer term capital improvements that we think have value to the parks and rec department, but also have value to transportation and mobility in general. and might be excellent projects for the 2 departments to partner on and to potentially

[134:01] pursue and receive federal money. Or there's a many different sources of Federal money that that these types of improvements would potentially be appropriate. For this improvement is a multi-use path bypass which avoids the parking lot. wraps around the parking lot and connects across the top of the access drive right here. This would completely avoid this connection. Through the parking lot here. We think that this is probably one of the things that you could do that would most significantly improved safety on the site. This is a project that was originated by transportation and mobility. They did pursue Dr. Cog Tip funding for this project, but it did not receive it at that time. but we hope that in the future the 2 departments could work together and and potentially get some.

[135:00] some Federal funding to cause this to occur. Also, I want to just note this crossing. Here we're recommending that it' be a raised crossing to make this a much safer crossing for people who are walking and viking at that location. There is a cross work there today, but it's not raised. and then the construction of a multi-use path along the north side of county and south of the site. We think that this could be, you know, a great improvement for your sites. Access in terms of building a piece of the needed bicycle facility network along the county, a quarter also a benefit to transportation. since it probably will be equitable, if not less in cost, than going and trying to build offered bike lanes out on the street. This would actually be a protected facility, a a much better low stress.

[136:01] a facility for this quarter. and we think this again would be a good project for parks, and recreation and transportation and mobility to partner on this project also has the opportunity to cons. If you were so inclined to park. create additional parallel parking along the corridor that you could put in an additional 40 stalls all along the quarter there. The the fact that you're building a multi-use path and bringing the bikes away from the roadway makes the parking less of a concern from a bicycle standpoint. and is really the reason why we would recommend it if you found yourself wanting to build more parking. So we looked at all of those improvements, and we talked with your transportation staff about resources and timing, and and collectively we we came up with this phasing schedule. This is in your memo.

[137:07] you know, pretty immediately. You could pursue a shared parking agreement with the Church if it was successful. you know. Open up the the West Side gate, even if you didn't build the the significant improvement, just open it up so that people could get through. I I think, with the expectation that you followed it up and construct the physical improvements soon thereafter. And then you'd want to implement that, and you'd want to monitor that and see how well people respond to that ability to park in in Calgary, Bible Church on a a formally accepted fashion. Then also develop a packet of these short-term improvements to construct next summer, and then use this fall to do more engagement. more analysis.

[138:04] more design, and then again actually construct them in the fall. We will. and anticipate that the drop off pick up circle will probably be the centerpiece of that. But the real again, the real value of that drop off, pick up circle is to remote, more offsite parking opportunities. And the vehicular connection South, to tell me is one that really leans into enhancing the access to the Calgary Bible church, do you? We probably want to consider of those 2 big, fairly expensive improvements, you know. Did you have? Do you have funding to do both? Or If not, then which of the 2 would should really be the the centerpiece of the set of improvements, and then adding into that the West Gate access improvements, and the 88 parking improvements on the site.

[139:03] and then, of course, the last piece being pursuing some some partnership projects with transportation and mobility. enhance the the multimodal access to the site, with the multi-use path that wraps around, and with the multi-use path that goes along coming out. So we've moved at this point, mostly through the feasibility Study Staff would now plan to to go out and do some engagement with the community. That engagement would involve talking to the Calgary Bible Church about a potential shared access agreement. It wouldn't also also involve talking with state stakeholders and neighbors about these other improvements, and getting their feedback on how appropriate that would be, and and essentially beneficial that would be. And then moving forward with this phase implementation plan.

[140:03] So your staff has developed 2 questions for you. That's the perhaps I've been put on the draft recommendations. Does the perhaps support the proposed phasing as described. and we we thank you for this opportunity to present and look forward to getting your feedback and Mr. Chair, I would ask if you'd like me to stop sharing, or if you'd like me to leave these questions, though i'm not sure you come up for a moment until we get deep into the discussion. Thanks. Bill and Darren. Can you see folks in the room just as hands cool. Should we let you do when the hand goes up? Yeah, that would be helpful, Mark it's hard to see. Wow, the we have one question. So I had 2 questions. One relates to the cavalry church option; the other has to do with the additional egress

[141:01] point and additional parking spaces. So i'll first ask the Mount Cavalry church question what you said that they have 300 spaces in that facility. You know. What percentage could we realistically hope to utilize on a Saturday of those spaces? And how would that impact our capacity? Yeah. Let me just move forward a couple of slides here, just so I can get one number. So the Calgary Bible Church has 380 parking spaces in there. Live. Let me go back. And they're just about evenly split between the East Side East side, West side and and north side. When we observed on that weekend there were about 65 vehicles

[142:00] parking there. almost all of them going to the ball fields on that Saturday and the the We've also spoken with people who are responsible for monitoring that, and that is something that the Church has been allowing people to do is to park in that Eastern most lot and access the ball field. So you know, with that in in mind there i'd say, there's a bit of a precedent for them, allowing up to a 100 and 20 or so parking spaces to be used. We didn't see that many being used. But the the you know the weekend that we observed wasn't necessarily the biggest weekend, that of of activity that you would see. But we think you there's probably about 120 parking spaces there, but all of the other parking spaces were empty on that Saturday as well. So Saturday seems to be

[143:04] a really great day for other people to park in the Calgary Bible Church. Sunday, of course, is when they have many of their services. The parking lot was much fuller on Sunday, and really nobody that was parking in Calgary. Bible church was going to Pleasant Bill that positive view. because that your parking lot was only half full. and presuming that we could get 120 spots. you know, as a floor. or even a ceiling. How would that impact the capacity needs of the current parking lot? Well, that's a great question, and really tough to answer again with with the one data point that we have. I've looked at that And, said I, it looks to me like your in the ballpark of about 100 to 150

[144:01] vehicles short on your on your on your capacity at the peak time, right when you're when you're when your lot is full. when there's 500 vehicles. either parked or circulating through there. and when there's 65 vehicles already parked, in Calgary Bible church and 20 people parked out on. tell me, and a bunch of other people parked on 47, and in the friends sure or friends school, but it's about. I'd say about 150, but that probably is, is low for what the parking demand would be if on, on, for instance, the the the days when you'd be running a tournament there. Right this. This is more of a League play weekend.

[145:00] Your tournaments are bigger than that, and would have a greater demand. But you also don't have tournaments nearly as often as you have These League play weekends. Yeah, it's a, and it's a great question If you just jump in quickly. And then, Megan, I I think that you wanted to offer some input, to. I just wanted to say that you know we have open up the conversation with the church just by way of some initial conversations with the office manager, and also spoken with Boulder County, united in terms of You know how their operations work and what they've seen over the years. and you know the the church as it stands right now. They're really seeing this as I think, an opportunity. You know they're They're not from their own perspective. Seeing any immediate impacts that they're trying to address. They wouldn't describe it as a problem for them right now, which is a great place to start a conversation. So I just wanted to offer that. And then, Megan, see if you wanted to add anything. Yeah, I I would say, probably more informally or on the past tournament directors. They have actually reached out to the church, and on those Saturdays, especially the Church. I think it's been willing to work with them directly to help with some overflow. Part of it. Challenge with that now is, if you are a visitor. Pleasant view, and you go into the lot from 47

[146:19] before you're even going to the church all of a sudden. Now you have to go All the way out. You have to go all the way back. Down. You have to go all the way down the road down to where Kelmia meets 28, I think, and then back up, and then get to the church, and so it's you know it's not. It's not. I deal or even for the people who have been using it. You can see, like on a random Saturday, 65 people working in that line. Going their pleasant view. They probably are the people who normally know that they've been able to do that. You're coming from out of town. You don't know that, and you also have no idea how to get to that lot. You're not going to drive 3 miles, or your way to minded

[147:01] is what we've had about. I and I apologize. I realized there was an important piece of information I forgot to convey in the presentation the vehicular connection alternative that would connect your parking lot south to Calamia. The intention behind that is, that that would be one way southbound, and that that would only be open on the weekends. When these events were occurring. The the intention is certainly not to create a vehicular connection that would allow people in the neighborhood to go back out to 47, and and vice versa. I can't imagine. That would be something that the neighborhood would be at all interested in. This is really just something that would allow people in the parking lot to move south on the weekends and connect to Kalmia and avoid the the travel that you just heard. And then that's a good transition to my next question, which should be hopefully

[148:00] on your proposal to have that egress point to Kalmia and add the additional parking spaces it looked to me like from the map there would be a new path that crosses over an existing multi-use path. and i'm wondering if and I could be wrong about that. But i'm wondering if you consider the collision risk associated with that option. Let me let me go to that map real quick, so we can talk about it. I believe you're referring to this. No, it's the other side. It's where the the brand new egress point it out to Calvia right there. Oh, right there okay process the ground. There's a gravel path there which I presume, useful by walkers or bikers. Good morning. If you guys have thought about the collision risks associated with that. so that gravel path largely serves as the only way for people walking and biking

[149:06] along. Count me to come up and access this trail and then get onto the site. If you were to build this halfway here and connect into the site, it would be our expectation that that would be the dominant facility that people would use to walk and bike. Now, if that's not the case, and there were still to be people coming along here, then I think you would probably want to put a crosswalk here and and try and address that potential for conflict with an appropriate traffic control device. Okay, thank you. Okay? So related question doing midnight. This is part of well. But how? What kind of impact would you get up on on the add or to the increased traffic with this additional egress. On Saturday's friends open.

[150:08] you would expect that there would be some impact. You would expect that there would be additional traffic that would, if there were more people coming and parking at the church, then there would be more traffic on. Come here! That's the way they would get there the advantages that that would be happening on a Saturday afternoon when there's very little traffic on. Come, yeah. and I guess there'd be 2 ways of looking at that. There's very little traffic on. Tell me, yeah. so can add more traffic to it. Or there's very little traffic on Kilm. Yeah. And so it would look quite different. Can you quantify the change at all? No, but it's I I mean not not specifically, but it's certainly in the hundreds of vehicles per day, not in the thousands of vehicles per day.

[151:05] You know one of the things that oh, so sorry. I was just gonna add that, you know, in the proposed phasing, and and even just recognizing the limitations of this study. You know. As Bill said, this was one weekend in time. It was not a large regional tournament that was being held that weekend. So we have opportunities over time to to monitor conditions and collect additional data. I'm sorry. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay, it it so to to monitor conditions over time. And so that's why, especially because when we look at the 750,000 that we've initially programmed into the capital budget to advance some of these, you know. We certainly can't achieve all of the capital improvements at once. And so the proposal is to to work with the community and stakeholders and and yourselves to to try and come up with something that we can phase and then watch what happens and and make adjustments over time is needed.

[152:09] I'm sorry One more unrelated question. What are we as a city and Recreation department doing to encourage carpooling about our direct leads our tournament play when possible. Okay, that seems like we can. We can build parking spots forever, right? But that's your sub game. Yeah, no. So I I will say that we have over the years with specific tournament directors, especially when it's in a a really big one we've done everything to up into, not just asking them to carpool or organize that kind of thing. But I we've also we've gone so far as like trying to get them to work with hotels. That might be that might be hosting them. We've called, and car you are, which is nearby to try to see if you can do overflow parking there

[153:01] to to be transparent. It it's been a challenge for a long time, but we normally only get complaints about it over about 3 weekends, and it's really one that's really bad. We've also worked with tournament directors to change how they do their scheduling to kind of help it as well. So I think all of the creative solutions that we thought of. Anyways. I know. Historically, we've tried some things we were able to implement because we were. We were drafting kind of a special event policy for anything over a certain number of users or people visiting. They would have to implement certain practices in addition to their tournament plan. Right like, how are they dealing with overflow traffic? So I think the easy things we've definitely done things that are a little bit harder. We start with some of the over ownership on on your renters. During the pandemic the problem went away a little bit, but you know it's coming back with a boom just like everything. So

[154:03] yeah. I spend a lot of time in that. So yeah, so that right next order. And so I observes everything going on that you've described for long time. So I have a bunch of different questions in the new roundabout that you describe. That takes out like that flat area on top of the trees. Is there a lot of families like go up to that tree area to get shade, because there's much shade in the pleasant view facility. They're plan to replace shade options. So you know, I could just say that because we're we're still, even though those look like pretty defined drawings, we still have a number of details to work out, such as tree preservation, and even the Center Island within that drop off. We know it. It does need to filter storm, Router to some extent to accommodate the design. But how we program that, and whether that includes additional shade, for example, could still certainly be considered.

[155:13] I I would also add that, and Leslie, please correct me if i'm wrong. but the the cost estimates that we're put together did include a a fairly robust landscaping budget as well, which would support everything that you just said we did include. We did identify potential trees that may need to be removed. But we also added budget to make sure that we just add trees back in. but it's kind of like folks. We we feel a lot of work on the shade shelters so it's a great point. You're making it in the local knowledge on site and be assessing. Okay. And then the second thing, I think that's great, that the it's only a one direction thing open only on certain times, because the cards do tend to

[156:03] 2 down. Call me at like super fast thinking that they're going to get out to foothills there, and some of them end up turning around some of them. I've even seen them crash, and then like at night time, because they're going a 100 miles an hour, and they just smash into that endpoint. So I think that anything that you can do to mitigate speeds on counting it would be good like these bumps, or something like that, because that cars just see that it's straight away. There's no turn off there's nothing between that round about and where the church enters into the car just go by for it on that section and the by path that you mentioned on the north side of Calvia. Where would that start? Because, like the lack of the by planes on the side of county that goes all the way down to 20 Eighth Street. So if you just take it to the church. They're still stuck unless they go back on to the other like path that goes up north. Yeah, totally understandable. What we had shown was a project that would only build the multi-use path adjacent to your property, and over to that street that connects into the neighborhood, I

[157:12] whose name I forget. You're You're absolutely correct, however, that in order for that to be truly valuable, there would have to be bike facilities that can extended all the way west to the 20 Eighth Street intersection. But I would then that is something that is shown in the transportation and mobility departments low stress walk-in bike network plan. There just isn't any plans to construct them at the time. according to our conversations with them. And then my last question is, my comment was, that the path from the Calvary Church to the soccer field goes through this property that belongs to the that I

[158:02] i'm. Part of that enjoy, and there's well i'm in that it's always like a bunch of different communities than it has a master age away in that community that owns that path is kind of crazy, and They're very protective about it, and they try and keep the soccer parking people off that path They're like, think that they own the path and want to control. So I just wanted to like, make you guys aware that they or i'm reasonable and feel like no one should walk on their patch. That's super helpful context. And certainly, as we move forward with engagement, any guidance or recommendations that you have, we welcome? Yeah, Thank you. Jason. You had to handle. Yeah, thanks, Chuck. I had a question kind of along the lines of Bernie's question on car pulling just another. Not really question, maybe observation. And i'm not sure of solution, but something to maybe think about, and i'm sorry if i'm missing. I had to step away for a few minutes if you don't talk about this, but

[159:03] I have 2 kids that play BC: United, where there are a lot of Saturdays. We try very hard to bike. It's a it's a nightmare. All the things you all talked about. One of the things I I noticed. Every single weekend is very large suvs and trucks that fit into like 2 spaces instead of one. and so that obviously limits parking. It makes it difficult to kind of navigate around. and I don't know how you you know, without discriminating. But maybe there's a way to, you know. Kind of send some of those guys over to overflow parking, because I really think that that that is it. That is a big part of the problem on normal soccer. Fall weekends is just navigating products that take over 2 2 spots that you know how to take 5 min to back out. And again I don't know how you do this in kind of a nondiscriminatory way, but that's something that to think about as we kind of think about a policy rather than as kind of burn, so we could continue to build or kind of find, new parking. But I think there's

[160:02] there's ways to kind of fit in additional cars to existing facility without building more, and I think. finding ways to do that again, whether kind of directing certain cars to other places, or maybe putting those cars in a certain part of the parking lot for oversized cars. It just is is like is a problem every single weekend there. And like I, said I, we try to bike, so I they just notice it. But and I guess if you're sending you all discussed. Sorry coming in late, but it's just an observation that may be worth further exploration. As you all look into this. so I might add one comment or a couple of so I could talk for a long time on this, an hour or more. It is deeply triggering to me, because I used to live there a quarter mile more, and my kids play software there. I spend a lot of time. I think, through there. I've had a number of runners with drivers in the parking lot. It's deeply dangerous. Not a place to take kids at all.

[161:03] I appreciate Bill's suggestion for him, for most of the parking lot on the road for making it better for multi-use access. Oh, that's great! What's missing from this whole analysis is! It is a robust transportation demand management. which. and really being impressive about reducing the number of parts, are coming there. acquiring and forcing it, charging for parking. If we think about the equity arguments. We are having our discussions. We're asking earlier on this meeting. We're talking about it. I'll probably exclusive user group about spending upwards of a 1 million dollars to improve access on 3 weekends a year for our next. User it's serving mainly out of town, and I don't see how that's rational. Given our bunch of limitations. I'd like to before we begin looking at physical changes to the, to the infrastructure, there to think more about how we can change how the people are using. and that'll be the first I I would take. And then.

[162:08] if you'd be soft at all or options, then we start looking at expanding, barking, and increasing access. But that would seem to be given our city's final goal, our transportation goal, etc., increasing the amount of parking, you know, making it easier to get there by far. It seems like the last month at this stage. Chuck. I appreciate your sharing that, and because I did want to revisit this second question that they'll still have on the screen in terms of the proposed phasing. You know, recognizing again that that we are part of a larger city that has these larger goals. You know the the proposed phasing, as we've described it now saves that on site parking expansion. It's sort of in in advance until we know we need it, that that first we would look at really addressing the safety concerns by

[163:00] providing that improved drop off, pick up circle which would sort of separate out the traffic in such a way and provide that raised cross block that would reduce some of those safety issues, and that, you know, if you think about the this sort of bang for the buck in terms of public investment. that if we, if we can secure a parking agreement with the Church that you know provides us. Let's say, a 100 20 spaces. That that is, relatively speaking. better Bang! For the buck is, it compares to adding 47 spaces on site. So you know, and we we have heard similar feedback from our transportation colleagues. I I think the challenge that we've run into is that you know it's like as Megan described earlier. It's these regional events that they draw people from well outside the city, and that as Bill described, I mean, we can certainly make use of the Calvary Viral Church if we get the agreement in place to suggest that these large events have to use those spaces.

[164:10] But if we were to explore any operational agreements with N. Caru car, for example, where other places that would require that shuttling back and forth that wouldn't even be feasible without that Drop off pickup circle. So we're sort of trying to see. This is like. How how do we achieve some of these goals as best we can? Yeah, but I recognize I hear you. I I appreciate your comment. Certainly I I to start with Tdm. First, and then see where we stand. Transportation, mainly a cargo link. Are you for parking things like that? And then let's see where we stand and whatever we do in the user group. I'm: curious. Yeah.

[165:02] I'm: just thinking I as someone who also uses this for it. Soccer: I I think a lot of the issues could be indicated by just having more openings around that soccer field. I'm just thinking of like if everybody is trying to get to that one entrance. It just creates anxiety. It creates, you know. Hurry, mess it! I know for myself. If I If I could walk the kids on one side, I would walk away the end. We would all try to get this close to the there's another entrance. We would park we at the end and not be crowded, and not be hurry and not worry about getting out. I think, having that one way to come here. it'd be really helpful like those 2 things. I could solve a lot of the problems just having more entrances without a whole lot of resurfacing, but just literally opening up days. The people could walk or bike, and not have that extra traffic, but also the exit through company, even on a Friday night, where it's not super busy.

[166:09] I I don't think the neighbor would feel that much increase in traffic. but I do think it would lower the level of anxiety. And you know this that's happening in that parking lot. It's just the observation on my end. And then you know. on the other side of the field. Yes, we've heard that from Vcu as well. You know I. One of the things that we also fail to mention is that you know the parking expansion can be separated from that vehicular connection to Kamia. Those do not. Those can be independent. So you know we we could provide that additional connection work on the shared agreement with the church. Continue the that we've been working on over over the years

[167:02] and see how it goes. And then, if we decide at some point, and we find the funding at some point to expand parking it's designed such that those 2 aisles could be added either side of that vehicular connection. So I just wanted to make sure that that was understood. And and I really appreciate the way that our consultants have helped us think that through. and it's time to say is that time with the upcoming engagement process there'll be a chance to incorporate the both to be back to night and of the public. Get no points took improving knowledge of like events of site, etc. And then from that, the next phase and design should incorporate that. But it'll be a design like the bill mentioned that she am program like, how do we incorporate all the different aspects of this from a programming not just to design? Why Why do we need to turn about? If there was a a shuttle, couldn't it come in one way, pull into it's what's now marked as like the fire lane that sort of acts as a drop off, and then it could just go right back into the flow of traffic and outcome. Yeah.

[168:08] we obviously take more look at it, but I, understanding there, feel free to tip in here. But as the engine is working on this saying possible. you know, looked at all the safety aspects which is for the traffic flow issue. Yeah. So typically, what we found in Bill, I know you could speak to this better, but you know, is that as soon as the shuttle enters a lot it sort of all bets are off, so the efficiency can really tank in terms of the the system as a whole, because times can can be impacted. So I appreciate what you're saying. I think that the the way we were thinking about it is that the drop off would be because it's well designed, and to have enough space that there would be a consistent way, even if there are, if all of the drop off spaces are taken, there's still room for a van or a shuttle to make its way around and out without having to deal with the parking lot itself, which would really even more impact the efficiency.

[169:11] Yeah, you said it perfectly. There are you looking at opening anything up on the north side in terms of bicycle access or pedestrian access. There's like a gate that sometimes open, but there's no way to put like people's bikes on the deal. They climb a right fence. No, I mean they they they do up to. I'm. On the north west side. Yeah. we'll go through this. But on the north side. There's a door there. There's just no bike. Okay. We did not look at that. But we certainly can. That's a great, that's a great comment. Yeah, we're we're 10 min to 9. So I think we should probably thank you very much, Bill. It's good to see you again. Great to see you check.

[170:00] Thanks. Everybody. Thanks. Okay up. Next, we have matters to support. We have a handbook provisions, which I think, Elli and hopefully find out that yeah. So really quick update. I provide a the handbook revision drafts to Santa Cruz's office for quite a while at their mission to this very thankful for the revisions, and she had hoped to have bye proposed comments and edits back to us by this meeting, but because she's wearing so many hats right now. The city. She wasn't able to do that online, but she will have those comments back to us for the next meeting, and then I can. I can work with her on what next steps need to take place before we can

[171:03] bring another draft back to the the full board. But I expect that the next meeting we will have a draft that removes the red lines that we can present to the Board for Review. Alright, that sounds wonderful. Thank you for all the work you've been thinking about. Okay. You know her comments on that. hey? We have the advancing racial active training. I received an email. I don't know for us you have about signing up for racial equity training. Do you know to whom that has gone, Rosa? I can check? No, but that was actually a bullet point that I was going to speak to you all about. So yeah, the Racial Equity Team has provided virtual, and in person meetings they are sharing with You May in June virtual trainings, meetings, the sign up. We just provided

[172:04] it. So we urge you to sign up. So check to your point. I don't know who all made the list. I don't know if our 2 new members were already added to the city wide list when it went out. It's a separate email. I'm: received a separate email. But would you, Rosa? Would you be willing to send an email with the link to all the crowd members. So the link is in the packet. I don't see the back of it. They call it out as a separate email. Just so we can find it more like they don't, mind. And I I did sign up. There were several of them are already full. Okay, and so this is just some early spring training. They are going to be adding more sessions. Thank you. Yeah, that'd be very helpful. And then we have Texas crab matters, and this is an opportunity for members to

[173:04] discussed interaction they had with the community any topics they like to bring to the attention of the Agenda Committee for consideration and future meetings and other large item that would not be appropriate for just a direct communication with members of the Department like the water. I'm. Something we use discussing proud, but something that used to be brought to the We need it. I just want to share that. I attended the South over sorry feedback informational gathering to share ideas for future break center, and had a great conversation, and Charlotte and the Highlight honestly was talking to to sophomore at their view. Super intelligent guys who were down there on their lunch break playing basketball.

[174:00] And we're really receptive to my questions about what would they want? And they came up and share their thoughts. Put their ideas on the board, and we're really bummed that, you know these improvements wouldn't be there during their 10 year. A fair view still probably graduated, but it just really made me feel again that you know we we we need to be proactive and getting the suits at fair view involved in that process, and really the students in Southern hills and base elementary at this point, because they're going to be the ones who are, directly, you know, benefiting. But the the community partnership between be this Pvsd. And direct center in that specific location is just so right, for you know, taking steps to really make it what it could be, you know, and to have a place for kids to go during school instead of going down the King's super, and just kind of wandering around and junk food like if there's just so much so much there. So, anyway, that was a highlight for me, and

[175:09] was glad to just participate in that and see that there was a lot of participation. right or on that matter. Is this opportunity. If you have an interaction in public, or I see well find the future agenda item. right anyone else. And then, finally, we have a new member Welcome letter. There is a letter in the attachment, so I encourage new numbers to look at it as some good links to Charles. and if you have any comments or suggestions for improving it for future or new members very much like to. It's it's in the attachment. It's an attachment to the I did not. I was gonna ask you about that. Okay?

[176:01] Oh. sounds like Bernie Didn't didn't receive a packet like. So when when you, when you receive an invitation to this lead. there is a yeah, that yet. And that has all the information you have. Every Every month we'll get that email, and we'll get a link to the back. It takes you to the city website, and then you download it back. No, it's fine. That's something we need to. But you have a walking letter that it says. But for this email it will have packed information. So that's that's something. It's fine. And having a hard time coordinated. we're gonna make it happen right? Just so do we have. hey? You have a mentor right now. right? We connected Mentors are established just to be clear, though I got it. I got the invitation, you, Rosa, and it's on my calendar. But there's no link in the speaking location.

[177:02] and this came through some weeks ago. Okay, so pretty. So on Wednesday afternoon I sent an email to all the crab, and I said something to the effect that your pack gets posted on line with the hyperlink. We'll be meeting that such and such address. Jennifer, will be provided. So right about 20'clock is in the afternoon on Wednesday I'll double check right on you guys. Okay. So that's where I Okay, If you don't have it, please get in touch with us and make sure that. Okay, yeah, we'll take it on one. Okay. if you have forgotten Right? Okay, I mean, there's nothing else on the agenda. We will join the meeting

[178:00] and thank you all very much, and congratulations to you.