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[5:12] and start with an announcement which is about the Boulder Day of Remembrance. On um March 22nd, 2021, Boulder lost 10 community members, including a Boulder police officer in a mass shooting. The city of Boulder remains committed to creating a space every year to honor and remember those who lost their lives that day and to offer support to all who need it. The community is invited to join the city, the District Attorney's Office, the Museum of Boulder, and Clinica Family Health and Wellness at this year's Day of Remembrance gathering and moment of silence. So, that will be on 30 p.m. and 30 p.m. This will be at the Museum of Boulder at 2205 Broadway in Boulder. And the event is free and open to the public. And we will also have a declaration on this

[6:02] subject here in a minute as well. And with that, I will go ahead and call us to order for the Thursday, March 20th, 2025 regular meeting of the Boulder City Council. Elicia, can you call the role, please? Yes, sir. Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We'll start tonight's roll call as usual with Council Member Adams, present. Benjamin, present. Mayor Brockett, present. Mayor Pro Tim Folks, present. Council member Marquis, present. Shuhart, here. Spear, present. Wallik, here. And Winer, present. Mayor, we have our quorum. Thanks so much. Um, now I'm going to request a motion to amend the agenda to add one item, which is item 3J, which is a consideration of a motion to accept the findings of fact, conclusions, and recommendations of special counsel. Stephanie Boster, Deputy City Attorney of the City of Fort Collins, finding

[7:00] that no violations occurred concerning the code of conduct complaint and amended complaint filed against council member Taiisha Adams. So moved. Second. We have a motion, a second. Um, all in favor, please raise your hand. The agenda has been amended. Thank you for that. All right. Well, our item 1A is the Boulder Day of Remembrance Declaration for the King Super Shooting that will be presented now by Council Member Winer. Chair, March 22nd, 2021 is a date that will be forever seared in the collective memory of our community. On that Monday afternoon, so many of us remember, a grievous atrocity was committed that will mark each of us for the rest of our lives. But none more so than the families and friends of the 10 people taken from us suddenly and violently. People going about their daily lives, doing their jobs, feeding their families, protecting one another. Our

[8:01] entire community joins those families and friends in saying the names of our neighbors taken from us before their time. Denny Stong, Nevin Stannisuch, Ricky Olds, Trona Barkoviaak, Suzanne Fountain, Terry Lyer, Kevin Mahoney, Lynn Murray, Jodie Waters, and Officer Eric Thally. It has been said that there are three deaths. The first is when the body ceases to function. The second was is when the body is returned to the earth. And the third is that moment sometime in the future when the person's name is spoken for the very last time. Let us never allow this third death of our 10 fallen neighbors. Let us take the time to speak their names, celebrate their lives, mourn their passing. As long as we remember them, they will never truly die. And so, as our modest and humble

[9:00] gesture, the city council of the city of Boulder declares that every year in perpetuity, March 22nd shall be designated the Boulder Day of Remembrance. On that day, every year, our community will pause and remember the 10 people who departed. On that day, every year, we will celebrate their lives. On that day every year we will say their names out loud so that in our hearts they will live on. Sign mayor May mayor Aaron Brackett. Thank you for that Terara and we look forward to seeing folks on Saturday for the remembrance event at the museum. Okay we are now going to proceed with open comment. So Elicia if you could read the public participation guidelines please. Yes sir. Thank you. Get those up on the screen. Good evening everyone. I will

[10:02] now review the public participation at city council meeting guidelines. The city has engaged with community members to co-create a vision for productive, meaningful, and inclusive civic conversations. This vision supports physical and emotional safety for community members, staff, and council, as well as democracy for people of all ages, identities, lived experiences, and political perspectives. For more information about this vision and the community engagement processes, we ask that you please visit our website at bouldercol.gov/services/productive-mospheres. The following are examples of rules of decorum found in the Boulder Revised Code and other guidelines that support this vision. These will be upheld during this meeting. Participants are required to sign up to speak using the name they are commonly known by and individuals

[11:00] must display their whole name before being allowed to speak online. Currently, only audio testimony is permitted online. Only one person at a time at the podium unless an accommodation like an interpreter is required. All remarks and testimony shall be limited to matters related to city business. No standing in or otherwise blocking the aisles. No participant shall stand or hold items such as signs or flags in a manner that would block the view of another person. No participant shall make threats or use other forms of intimidation against any person. We ask that you not affix items to the podium or deis or walls or other surfaces of the chamber. Signs, flags, or other items used to communicate must be held by one person when displayed. Obscinity, other epithets based on race, gender, or religion, and other speech and behavior that disrupts

[12:00] or otherwise impedes the meeting will not be tolerated. And lastly, in-person participants are asked to refrain from expressing support or disagreement verbally or with sounds such as applause or snapping with the exception of declarations. Traditionally, support is shown through American Sign Language applause or jazz hands. Thank you again for joining us and thank you for listening. Thank you for that, Elicia. All right, each person will have two minutes to speak. I'll call three names at a time and I will be strict about that time limit in the interest of fairness for everyone. So our um first three inperson speakers are Steven Hennessy, Rob Smoke and Patty Fster Aguilera. Can you get into that mic a little more

[13:00] there? Dear members of city council, hello. My name is Chip Hennessy and I am a board member who is speaking on behalf of the housing advisory board, HAB. HAB values our relationship with council and appreciates your recent decision regarding housing policies. Starting today, a HAB member will report quarterly to council on issues we are exploring and may recommend this year. Recently, HAB has organized two particularly interesting events. First, in fall 2024, HAB investigated housing solutions to homelessness. We convened a panel of homeless housing providers, including All Roads, EA, BHP, and Bridge House, who shared their strategies and success stories. In addition, we had toured two projects. The Veterans Community Project VCP, a tiny home community being built near Airport Road in Longmont, and Bluebird Permanently Supportive Housing (PSH) at 30th and

[14:00] Mapleton and Boulder. Second, in January 2025, our meeting explored the adaptive reuse of commercial spaces into a range of housing from transitional to market rate. Guest speakers included Phil Scho and Gavin McMillan who are working on a conversion now and Pete Weber from Coburn who is working with BHP on the geological building as well as other projects with other developers. Future meetings are expected to focus on such topics as the missing middle and solutions to empty bedrooms. Are there any specific topics that city council would like HAB to investigate and or advise? Thank you for your leadership on housing policies. Thank you. All right. Our next three speakers are Rob Smoke, Patty Fster Aguilera, and Evan Rabbits. My name is Rob Smoke. I live in

[15:01] Boulder. I I moved to Boulder in ' 86. I lived on the same I lived at the same address for 20 years in central Boulder. And while I was there, I I became interested in uh issues involving traffic and traffic calming. And I wrote stuff that appeared in the in the newspaper about um you know, in favor of things like traffic circles and speed bumps. um with the idea being that it would make things safer for people generally. And uh after I did that, there was uh well it was prior to that there was lots of support for uh changes that the city made to streets in certain areas particularly with traffic circles. And eventually uh within a year after they're being put in, somebody came up to me and said, "You killed my significant other

[16:00] or person." And I was like, "How you know how, why, how, you know what, and um the traffic circle was unmanageable for, you know, a pedestrian in a car at a certain time in a certain place." So I I'm giving this sharing this story because I realize anything that comes before the city council could be not just quality of life but also life and death. And I believe very much that the issues involving what's happening with Israel and Gaza right now are very much life and death for everyone here. Uh genocide is a crime against all of humanity and we are part of humanity here in Boulder. So the crime is against us as well as against the people who are just trying to survive under impossible conditions in Gaza. Free Palestine. Thank you. Thank you. Now we have Patty Fustster

[17:01] Aguilera, Evan Rabbitz, and Jude Lindsman. Hi, my name is Dr. Paddy Fster. On Monday, I was a go I was about to go to bed and I heard the news of Israel breaking the ceasefire and by only carpet violent violently carpet bombing Gaza again and killing more than 400 people, mostly women and children. I saw images like this and I couldn't stop crying. Mostly because I don't know what we're not doing enough. You're doing nothing. You're doing absolutely nothing. All the opposite. You're making money out of this. You're making money out of this. It's just so shameful. You should be walking out of here and say you don't

[18:00] want to be part of this. You don't want to be part of anything that has to do with any kind of like governmentmental part of this country. It's I'm so ashamed to ever have gotten the citizenship of this country. They just kidnapped people. They just kidnapped Janette this somebody that is doing things for the community and she's on the [ __ ] eyes detention. What are you doing? You're not even speaking up. I can't do this anymore. Like honestly, if you think that you're not agreeing with this, stand up and walk out of here. How can you be part of this? How can you be part of this? It's just so shameful. No holding up of signs and those include flags, please. Also, no obstructing of aisles. So, we need the standing person to move

[19:00] out of the way. Like, that's what you're going to say. We're violating the fire code right now, which is unacceptable. You're having people here, ma'am. I need you to sit down. Your Zion or your This is the last one before we have to recess the meeting. Okay. This is LA. Okay. All right. Let's do a recess.

[24:18] And if we can't get quiet, we'll have to do another recess. So, our next three speakers are No, you are not. And we need we need quiet, right? We're moving on to the next speaker who is Evan Rabbitz. I need quiet now. This is a warning. Need quiet. his last warning. Is a training ground for moral traitors. Real black leaders like James Baldwin, MLK, Muhammad Ali, Malcolm X,

[25:02] Angela Davis, Nelson Mandela, Bishop Tutu, Tony Morrison, etc. have always supported Palestine against the Israeli invaders. Here we have representative Joe Nagus bought for $139,000 of Apac money and city council trained Juny Joseph chairing the defense con caucus at the cap. They're on the money escalator while Taiisha Adams representing the majority and morality gets investigated. We also have two apparent childhood victims of the Zionist cult. Counselors Wallak and Winer. I pity them for being taught that Israel gets an exception to never again. Insanity in

[26:01] individuals is rare, but in groups it is the rule. As Israeli historian Elon Pap says, most Zionists don't believe in God, but they do believe that he promised them Palestine. I'd say the reason God hardly exists these days is because of perverted cults like Zionism. The Adivistic desire to transfer the evil of the Holocaust onto Arabs is killing God and the United States, not just Arabs. As the son of a Holocaust refugee, I don't believe that my tribe right or wrong any more than I believed my country right or wrong when I refused to go to Vietnam in 1972. And then we have the good Germans who sit in council seats making their next political move. Time is up. Right. Our last two inerson speakers are Jude Lansman and Andrew Faulner. Um, we need

[27:01] to keep the signs at head level or below, not above the head. Please, uh, if we can have, we have a sign up in the front that is above head level. That is one of our rules. If you can bring that, uh, down, please. This is a warning that if you do not bring it down, um, we're going to need to recess the meeting so that we are in compliance with the rules. All right. With a sign still above your head, I'm going to call another recess.

[41:51] Okay. Um, so we're back in I'm going to gave us back into session. Um, but I

[42:00] just wanted to let folks know that we've um cleared council chambers because of repeated violations of our rules of decorum, including speaking out of turn in the gallery and holding up signs that obstruct the view of the gallery. Um, and in addition, I wanted to say, although it was not why we cleared chambers, um, how unacceptable I consider it to call Jewish members of our city council Nazis. And with that, uh, we were going to our next speakers. Our next two are Jude Lansman and Andrew Faulner. I believe they will be testifying virtually. Mayor, uh just a moment as we uh get the screens and it uh as staff lets me know as we're moving forward. We're almost there. Very good.

[43:24] My Okay. So, our next two speakers are Jude Lensman, Andrew Faulner. And then we have some virtual speakers who've come in person. After that will be Eric Gross and Laura Gonzalez. All right. So, if we can have Jude Lansman, please.

[44:16] Okay, we we had Jude Landman next, but then Andrew Faulner. Okay, so Andrew, then your turn is next. Great. Okay, how about now? All right, great. Uh, good evening. Um, I'm Andrew Falner, senior director of development with Biomid Realy. Our 1855 Flat Iron Court project is on your agenda tonight for call-up consideration. The proposed development consists of three research and development buildings totaling roughly 28,000 square feet. In all of our developments, Biomed takes the long-term view, listening to local needs and investing in the local ecosystem. We hope we've proven this commitment over the last three years outside of

[45:00] 1855 through the many interactions and initiatives we've undertaken. To list a few examples, we voluntarily renovated 2100 into a vibrant 1500,000 foot amenity adding mixeduse activation to Flat Iron Park. This amenity east and co will include a market hall, restaurant, bar and outdoor park for all open to the public. We formed a partnership with CU Boulder to support the next 100 years of quantum technologies in Flat Park. We launched Velocity Labs, a platform with moveinready infrastructure for research startups coming out of the university. We completed 5505 Central, Flat Iron Park's first purpose-built R&D building, a project, which we also voluntarily upgraded to lead gold to enhance alternative transportation methods. We're also adding three new B cycle stations to Flat Park this year, and we're working with consultants to expand bike lanes in Flat Park. We're also

[46:01] contracting with car companies to add numerous vehicles to the area. Finally, to enhance sustainability in the park, we're we've initiated a partnership with Butterfly Pavilion to protect and enhance biodiversity in Flatron Park. We're kicking off several projects with them this year. We believe 1855 embodies these same principles, continuing our commitment to both invest in Boulder's incredible innovation ecosystem, and thoughtfully address the city's needs. We respectfully requesting city council call up our 1855 flat project tonight so we can time. Thank you. Okay, our next two speakers are Eric Gross and then Laura Gonzalez. And then we'll go to our virtual speakers.

[47:14] I didn't even really want to show this to all of you, but now I feel I have to. So, sometimes people ask, "What radicalized you?" This is one of the things. You're not going to like it. You're not going to like it at all. This is a human being with zip tie on their hand, which means that they were being held at some point that was crushed either by a tank or a bulldozer in Gaza on February 29th, 2024, a little over a year ago. And I can't get it out of my head ever. There's only one place on the

[48:01] internet that even stills allows this to be shown without it being blurred. And I don't know because there's no investigations allowed, but it could be that the money that either is invested or it goes to Caterpillar from here is directly responsible for this. We'll never know who it was or if they did anything wrong, but a few months after this, multiple news outlets, including CNN, confirmed that it happened and they interviewed someone who said that this was done to at least dozens of people, some alive. So, you can't look at this and not feel it. It's not something There are people here who didn't even they refused to even look. And that's

[49:00] the problem. You You can't not look. You have to be able to look. You have to be willing to see that there's not one side to this. I had other things I wanted to read, but I guess I'm done. Thank you. Now we have uh Lara Gonzalez and then we'll go uh virtual to Lynn Seagull and Sharon Flynn.

[50:19] Again, I am not here to ask you for anything. I'm actually here trying to look at the camera and make sure that the grandchildren and the descendants of Tara Winer and Mark Wallak and every single person that comes out of them know where they stood today during the current Holocaust that is happening today with their tax dollars or support into Caterpillar. We're investing into them. And even though we keep asking, not only do they are do they not remain silent, but they actually make rules to silence us. Because when there were cyanoazis here, what did they do? They allowed the flags to cover our faces. They could bring all the messages, disgusting met suggest that almost

[51:01] 100,000 people that have been murdered by Israel are all Hamas when that is not true. But you know what? something I know a scionist is a Nazi or even worse. And the funny thing about the Boulder City Council, which is almost full of settlers, um they stood for appetite for South Africa, but they don't stand for appetite in Palestine. How funny is that? Today Scionazi Terra Winer reads a declaration about the murder of what happened in King Supers because of the guns, but yet she is happy sending more guns to the settler colony of the state of Israel, which by the way should not exist because it's it's not real, you know. And these are the pictures that you need to look deep into. Not only did Janevgara get deported, and I know you know Janette Brocket, but it was only to your convenience to know her to get you elected. You sold your soul way too

[52:01] quick, man. Way too quick. What a shame. Taiisha Adams, I am so sorry for the Miss Januir that you're experiencing in this council. I really, really am. I stand with you in solidarity because what you're going through is Menoir to the full Your time is up. Your time is up. Your time is up. Okay, we're going to have to call another recess if you're not staying quiet. Here's the warning. All right, we're calling another recess.

[56:50] to order. We have two remaining open comment speakers who are both virtual. They are Lynn Seagull and then Sharon Flynn.

[57:05] My sentiments are exactly the same as the last speaker. She couldn't have said it better. Um, did you know that it was not 413 people killed in Gaza? It was 710 killed since the break of day today. That might be in addition to the 413 on Monday or Tuesday. Um, this is an existential dilemma for me in Boulder. It's a big deal today. Um, a postocck in peace and conflict studies in Georgetown University. His visa was revoked. Um, Badar Khan Suri His wife Mafi

[58:01] Salai is the daughter of a former US and she's a former um she's the daughter of a former US citizen from Palestine. She is a citizen of the United States. Um Georgetown University also and they um experienced online attacks from Zionists. Thank you for your testimony. Oh, sorry. You get an extra minute. We had an error with the timer. One more minute. Is she unmuted? Um, I had to unmute again. Could I have my 10 seconds back, please? Let's go. Let's go back to a minute. Yeah.

[59:00] Um her dad was a his wife this peace and um conflict studies posttock his wife um her she's the daughter of a guy who um did political advisory to Hamas. Um, you know, it's I see commonly it's addressed as Israel versus Hamas. No, it's not. It's Israel versus Palestine or it's IDF versus Hamas. These are this is a war and it's conducted by militarists on either side. Um, I wanted to say also that let's see, so many things to say. Um, all of Palestine is being divided up now and it's just unspeakable what's happening there and it affects us directly. Directly and don't you forget

[60:00] it for an instant. Your time is up. Our last speaker is Sharon Flynn. Hi, good evening. My name is Sharon Flynn and I live in Boulder. First, thank you to Miss Johnson for moving me to this remote slot this evening. As I came down for a cold, as it turns out, it's probably better that I'm remote. Anyway, I'm speaking today to request that the council hold a study session on proportional representation in city council elections. Proportional representation is a widely used electoral system that ensures candidates and parties earn seats in proportion to how many people vote for them. So for example, a group comprising comprising 40% of the electorate would win 40% of the seats. It's a system especially designed for electing multi-member bodies like the city council of Boulder. I returned to Boulder a couple years ago after five years living and working in

[61:00] Australia and New Zealand where proportional representation is widely used. In fact, New Zealand in the early 90s switched to proportional representation for their parliament in response to polarization driven by the dominance of two political parties. I have seen firsthand that proportional representation makes for better participation of citizens in government. It means more voices at the table and more voices make for better choices. Proportional representation for Boulder would mean a city council making decisions with the input of a broader segment of the electorate, creating a better chance for discussion and compromise. I'm also a member of the Boulder County League of Women Voters. Every year for the past five years, the league has requested that the council learn about proportional representation. I believe someone who was just in the chamber should have left behind a petition signed by nearly 600 Boulder residents asking the council to hold a steady session on proportional

[62:00] representation. I look forward to the council scheduling this session soon and thank you for the chance to speak. Thank you. All right, that's our final speaker. That brings open comment to a close. I'll turn to city staff to see if Nuria or Teresa have any responses. Thank you, mayor. None at this time. Thank you. No response from me, mayor. Okay. Thanks very much. Elicia, can we go to the consent agenda, please? Yes, sir. Thank you. Our consent agenda is item three on tonight's agenda, and it consists of items 3A through 3J. Any questions or comments on the consens consent agenda? Mark? Yeah, I have both uh questions and comments with respect to the financing proposals for Alpine Balsam. Um I understood that um uh staff

[63:00] was prepared to address some of these issues. Uh my concern is that we are moving ahead with a financing that is um one and a half times the size of uh CU South without any uh discussion or information provided to the community as to what we are doing, how we are doing it and why we are doing it in this particular fashion. So I I I do not request a hearing. I don't want to pull it from the consent agenda, but I'm hoping we can get some further information today. And if I have any questions after that, I'll I'll ask them. I see we have somebody who has stepped forward. If you could um We do indeed. Mayor, our interim director, uh our CFO, uh Joel is certainly here to answer any questions in his own amazing way. Do my best. Good evening, Council. Joel Wagner, interim chief financial officer. Um, and as council member Wallik mentioned, council agenda. Joel, can you

[64:01] pull that mic a little bit closer? I'm sorry. This is not a uh mic that's built for my height. So, I'm going to do what my mom told me never to do and slouch. Uh, council agenda items 3A, 3E, and 3F tonight relate to the issuance of $100 million in certificates of participation uh to fund the renovations of the city pavilion portion of the Western City Campus redevelopment project. So, this project has been nearly a decade in planning since the 2015 acquisition of the old Boulder Community Hospital site on uh Broadway between Alpine and Balsam. Tonight is the final administrative step in that long process that started with that 2015 acquisition included several council check-ins in 2017 for the area plan adoption or I'm sorry for the vision plan in 2017 adoption of the area plan in 2019, the site review approval in October of last year between a joint

[65:01] session of council and uh planning board and uh the approval of the project budget in the 2015 or I'm sorry, 2025 capital improvement program and 2020 annual budget. Uh a few specific points. Um as I mentioned, we will be using certificates of participation for this project. Uh these have been around in the state of Colorado since about the 1980s. Uh they work particularly well when there is collateral for the project. Uh we use them rather sparingly. The last time we used them was in 2019 for the fiber backbone uh project which interestingly we'll be hearing uh from our colleagues in innovation and technology about tonight for the final um oper oper operationalization of that one. That's a tongue twister for me tonight. Um and as I mentioned the pav pavilion building itself will be the source of collateral

[66:01] for these cops tonight. Uh we're also utilizing the Boulder Municipal Property Authority or Bumpa to facilitate the issuance of the COPS this evening. Bumper was formed in 1998 as a Colorado nonprofit corporation uh to facilitate the purchase and uh property for the city of Boulder and facilitate issuance of certificates of participation for projects like this. um much like the improvement districts or some of the other uh districts that council is the board of that district. Council is the board of bumpup. Um and then over let's see um last couple points. Uh, as Joe Tatuchi, our much more eloquent uh, speaker a couple weeks ago described, we are issuing these uh, this debt under a single emergency ordinance uh, tonight as

[67:01] opposed to our older process of a resolution and then an emergency ordinance at sale. Um, a couple reasons. Uh, well, there's also an emergency ordinance appropriating $100 million um, for the debt in for the budget for 2025 as well. Um and as you have not no doubt heard there is u certain a significant amount of uncertainty in the market right now when it comes to construction projects and the effects of tariffs. Uh so the as soon as we're able to issue uh or approve the debt and issue the debt, we'll be able to enter into a contract with our our contractor uh and lock in a final price for this project. So with that, let's see if there are any questions I didn't answer. I do have a couple if I may. And I will I will say I'm joined by uh Charlotte Husky, our budget officer, and Michelle Cran, our deputy director facilities and fleets. So, we have a a crack team behind me here as well. Um the the $und00 million

[68:01] um uh is that based on construction documents? Is it based on a formal bid by the uh contractor? How did we come to the hundred? Michelle, do you want to Good evening, council. Good evening, council. Michelle Crane with facilities and fleet. Um the hund00 million right now is based on uh price from a contractor. We've been under um contract with Saunders Construction. We went out for competitive bid with them uh last year and they've actually been helping us develop the final stages of the project. So we're in for building permits and so those prices are uh really like 95% construction documents. with the prices of construction rising rapidly, what's our protection against overruns on this? So, right now, because our contractor has been part of that construction team, really dialing in the details actually, um we are about 95% certain and have

[69:01] worked with subcontractors on solidifying prices. There is some urgency given the situation with the tariffs. the quicker we can enter into contracts and and actually sign those agreements. They're there to lock in prices. So, we've been working directly with subcontractors to lock in these prices and dial in these details. Um, construction contracts typically have a um contingency line. What's our contingency here? We have a 5% contingency in the construction and a 3% buyout contingency. Wow, that that's pretty tight. Um well I think part I mean part of that dialing it in we had a much larger contingency and we do that typically through the construction process. So early in design you hold a much larger pro contingency and it narrows as we go down. Since we've been working the past several months we've been able to kind of zero that in. But we actually hope that um as we move quickly on this we can actually relieve some of our buyout contingency

[70:00] and just push it into the construction contingency. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks for being here and thanks for those answers. Anything else from anybody on the consent agenda? Perhaps a motion. I'll move the consent agenda. Second. We've got a motion in a second. Elisha, can we have a roll call vote on this, please? Yes, sir. Thank you. We'll start the roll call for the consent agenda items 3A through 3J tonight with council member Spear. Yes. Wallik. Hi. Winer. Yes. Adams. Yes. Benjamin. Yes. Mayor Bronett. Yes. C. Mayor Pro Tim Folkitz. Yes. Council member Marquis. Yes. And Shoe Hart. Yes. The consent agenda items 3A through 3J are hereby approved unanimously.

[71:01] Thanks so much. Can we go to our call-up check-in, please? Yes, sir. Thank you. Our call-up check-in tonight is item 4A and is the consideration of a site review for the redevelopment of a 9.87 87 acre site at 1855 Flat Iron Court with three research and development buildings totaling 28,818 square ft. The proposal includes a request for a height modification to allow for two threestory buildings up to 50 feet in height and one three-story building up to 45 feet in height. a request for a 25% parking reduction and a modification to site access control to allow for two access points. The applicant has requested vested rights and this is reviewed under case number LUR2024-000036. Thanks for that. Any uh questions or comments or interest in calling this one up? Tina, I move to call it up.

[72:05] Do we have a second? That was a second from council member Wallik. Uh team, did you want to speak briefly to your desire to call that up? I think because of some of the ambiguity in the uh planning board that it makes sense to call it up and take a look at the project. Yeah, good enough. I don't know that we need any more discussion. Maybe just a vote. This is a show of hands. What? You say it. You go first. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I think with regards to the callup, I think this is a uh an instance where I think there's a clear misunderstanding of how we're u on the site review and the process in which we go through that. Um looking at how we look at zoning, land use, the comp plan, and the sub community and area plans. I think it's critical that we provide some clear understanding and guidance to the process and the planning

[73:00] board. And I think as the sort of last leg of of any sort of project in a quasi judicial process, I think it's important for us to weigh in and provide some clarity. So um not only this project but others have clarity going forward. Mark, uh yeah, I want to uh agree with everything that uh my colleague just said. Um, I think in this example, and I hope it doesn't happen often, that um, uh, the planning board got a little far out uh, on its skis and they didn't quite understand what we were looking for and they didn't understand the process that we should be going through with respect to a project like this. And I I don't think doing site review um uh although it provides for the planning board to uh look to compliance with sub community plans, I don't think it meant cart blanch to in effect restructure the project um in

[74:02] their lights. And so I I think this is an opportunity for us to call it up and and basically correct what I believe to be an error on the part of planning board. And I got Lauren and then maybe we can move to a vote. Um, so outside of whether or not we call this up, I have heard um some concern about some interpretation of a particular piece of H or I have heard an interest in discussing how area plans and site planning work together that maybe we could discuss as a council or clarify from a code perspective. Um anyway, that's something I would be interested in having staff um bring

[75:01] forward to us. Thanks for that. what there would probably be a CAC request to move that concept forward. Certainly and perhaps maybe an initial conversation just to make sure it is not something that staff is currently working on or something that we can do in a different way, but happy to follow up with that. Okay, great. I'll just call myself and just agree with what what my colleagues have said and look forward to calling this up and of course we'll be evaluating the project against the site review criteria when we do if we do seeing how this vote goes. So, all in favor of the motion in hand to call this up, please raise your hand. I got nine. All right, we're calling this guy up. Thanks for that. And if we can go to our first public hearing, please. All right, sir. Thank you. Our public hearings are item five on tonight's agenda. 5A is the second reading and consideration of a motion to adopt ordinance 8688 to a franchise I mean sorry granting a franchise by the city of

[76:01] Boulder, Colorado to Aloe Communications LLC. its successors and assigns pursuant to chapter six of the Boulder Cable Code BRC1981 and Aloe Communications LLC franchise application to furnace cable television services within the identified franchise areas of the city and to all persons, businesses, and industries within the franchise area and the right to acquire, construct, install, locate, maintain, operate and extend into within and through said franchise areas of the city, all facilities reasonably necessary to furnish cable television services within the franchise areas of the city, and the right to make reasonable use of all streets and other public spaces and public easements as herein defined as may be necessary for the benefit of the city of Boulder and fixing the terms and conditions thereof and setting forth related details.

[77:01] Thank you, Miss Licia. That was a mouthful. Um uh so I'm going to pass this on to our chief policy adviser Carl Castillo, but I just want to say I appreciate not just his working on this, but so many folks in IT, Mike Janti, I see you there. Don Mulvi and uh certainly Andy Fruit from uh city attorney's office who's been really supportive as we have been doing this. So Carl, pass it on to you. Thank you, Nuria. Good evening, council members. Um, we're going to hopefully get get through this fairly quickly because I think we just spoke about franchise agreements a few weeks ago. So, I think that's fresh on your mind. I do have a brief PowerPoint slide though. I will mention that as as Nuria said, Andy Fohheart is here. We have some members from our IT staff and we have our guest from Aloe who many of you have come here from Nebraska. Um, and we also have at least one member who's online. So, if there's questions, we might ask Andrew to uh to jump in as well. Um, let's see here. Okay, so very briefly, this is

[78:02] mostly for the for the sake of our our public. A brief reminder of what a cable franchise agreement is. Federal law allows local governments to require a franchise agreement uh of providers of cable video service. And that term is essentially referring to delivery of multiple channels of video content through a cable network using public right away. So currently that's that's Comcast. Um the proposal here is to um for Alo to provide that. Um the scope of the franchise agreement is very limited according to federal law. Um it includes um and I'm talking about generally speaking what a franchise agreement includes. It is a uh relates to customer service standards such as signals quality responses to customer complaints and billing practices, technical standards, uh the franchise fees that must be paid to the city, PEG access channels that must be provided and fees and of course the right to use the

[79:00] public rights away with construction and maintenance standards detailed. Um it's very important to remember that when we're talking about cable franchise agreements. Um we uh this is not a exclusive franchise agreement unlike some of our other franchises. Um obviously that's why we're talking about having a second provider here. And also there are a lot of things that are outside the scope of what the city can regulate when they approve a cable franchise agreement. So it cannot regulate the rates, the programming or other telecommunication services. So with that I will go to the next slide here. Um and my apologies here not getting the full screen on my my side so it's a little hard for me to Yeah. Okay. That's good to know. Um okay. So, so in January, the city entered into a 20-year agreement with Ella to lease the city's dark uh fiber backbone in exchange for a commitment to deliver retail broadband services um

[80:02] with certain financial and non-financial parameters that were detailed. Uh since then, Alo submitted a cample a cable franchise agreement application on February 18th, and the parties have negotiated an agreement that is nearly identical to the one that the city previously entered into with Comcast. And that's important because that's actually a requirement that we can't we can't have substantive differences in our franchise agreements. In terms of what are the criteria that council and the city is asked to look at to determine whether or not to approve this application, they are listed here as A through G. Compliance with law, quality of service, qualifications, uh minimum requirements, uh the public education and government channels, public interest, and competition. Um I will merely refer to the memo with that detailed staff's recommendation why we think the applicant has met all of these criteria. Um the we also have aloe and I

[81:00] think some of their presentation will go towards this these issues as well. So that'll finish my comments. I will now I believe turn it over to uh Mr. Molen who is both the founder and the CEO of Alo and I think he's got a slide deck that he's going to work through and uh Brad I'm going to run it through it for you so just let me know when you want to go say next slide that works the wow Well, u I'm supposed to be good technologically and I may have just uh failed my first uh test here. Um one, thank you uh to uh mayor, city council, um the the Boulder staff, um and city

[82:00] representatives. This has been a long um process, but uh it's been productive and good, and I think um just from a personal point of view, it's um you you you're led by professionals and and I thank you so much for that. Um I'll move real fast through this. Please stop me. Um and if along the way anybody has any questions. So if you go to the next slide, um who is Aloe? Uh we're a fiber to the prem provider. Now what that really means, you'll notice I said fiber to the premise, not fiber to the home. Um business, governmental, residential, uh low income, high income, the whole community. Uh which is one of the requirements uh of the process from the city of Boulder. Uh the nice thing is that's one of the requirements for Malow as well is we we do ubiquitous builds. Um we've been doing it since 2003. We've never owned copper. We've never owned

[83:00] coax. And um we uh uh we work together with um with our investors as well as the communities to um develop our networks uh from from our start in western Nebraska. Now today we we pass uh 1.3 million in populations across Nebraska, Colorado, Arizona, um Kansas and Missouri and uh are continuing to grow every day. Next slide. Honest, exceptional, local, hassle-free. Those are our four values. Last time I was here, I talked about those. Uh what I'll only highlight a couple of them. One is to be local. um to be here. Uh uh our flagship market is Lincoln, Nebraska. I actually live two hours closer to Boulder than I do um Lincoln, Nebraska. And and uh so, you know, ask ask me to be here, I'll be here. Um ask our team to participate to

[84:00] work through solutions with the city. That's that's our goal. Um another's to be hassle-free. That's a tough one. Um the the construction process is is very intense. It's uh we're going behind every business, governmental entity, and household. Um and so that's a that we we do our best to inform the the society, inform the city, all the residents, and then meet our commitments. Um we do that through honesty and also exceptional performance. Next slide, please. Uh we have about 2,000 employees. Half of them are in um construction, the other half are in supporting uh customers and getting customers. Um we're we're adding uh customers at a very rapid pace. Um not only is specifically we're here to talk about uh video today, but um all of our products are growing very rapidly driven primarily by broadband.

[85:02] Um I I saw uh an assistant who who updated this slide. Uh current communities 25. Yes. You know there's edge outs. Um you know Boulder will have those other communities in in Colorado have them. Uh a small little uh development outside may not have been annexed yet. Uh is 25 and and as I mentioned Lincoln, Nebraska is our largest at 295,000 population. Uh we we get a lot of awards um but the the biggest award is our our low churn and that we take care of customers and earn them every day. Next slide please. Um let's skip this slide. Uh here's some of those awards um that uh the communities uh provide us with. Uh next slide. Um we're recognized nationally. Um uh we're uh generally considered one of the top five uh

[86:00] internet providers in the in the country and our um and our video services are are compete very favorably with both streaming and um other uh fixed wire line u cable systems. Next slide. Uh there there's our locations. Um it's very important for us uh to develop regions and so um not only will we be in Boulder but we're also in many surrounding communities and uh we'll be announcing many more shortly. Next slide please. Uh we offer internet, TV and phone. We are uh a telephone provider. You get to keep your same number and those types of things. And um there's a whole separate side of the the world that regulates our telephone services. Um but uh we take it seriously. Um we don't offer 911, but we obviously um if if a customer dials 911,

[87:03] we hit the 911 centers. Next slide. business the same way um with Wi-Fi, internet, uh business phone services and actually one of our fastest growing areas is cyber protection from for both the home and the residents um home and the business and uh uh we we enjoyed a meeting uh today talking about the the quantum projects and and that's where cyber is going as well. So we we hope to participate in that. Next slide please. Um, next slide. Oops. Wow. Oh. Oh. Um, student housing, um, MDUs, most people call those apartments or or or condo associations. Um, we participate with them with a full service, uh, offering as well. It's more and more important uh, you know, in uh, our larger communities that have large universities

[88:01] um, making sure that everybody participates in the ecosystem. Next slide. Um that ties into also a smart life. Um this this uh allows connectivity to our systems and our services via uh Wi-Fi uh that gets that's offered throughout the communities. on the first year or two that won't be a significant impact for um uh the city of Boulder but uh in years three, four and five as we get market share it becomes very powerful so that uh students if their home doesn't have internet um they can their Chromebook can be authenticated so that they can get Wi-Fi so they can learn. um a lot of of other people with either um challenges of operating um computers or financial challenges are also supported in that ma matter and

[89:00] then the other side is the general population can um move about the community and continue to connect. Um it's it's really uh we we launched it about a year year and a half ago and it's just now taking off and it's a it's a wonderful situation and obviously you can get your video whether it's streaming or um through our online portals uh that way as well. Next slide please. Net promoter score. That's the most important one of the most important things. We we uh try to maintain a very high net promoter score which uh basically says our customers like doing business with us. It's a it's um it's vital to how we do business. It's it's our it's our scorecard and we pay attention to it. Next slide. Um we're we're a proven partner. Um, going back to that net promoter, if we don't take care of the build and take care on every

[90:01] product and offer it at at a fair price, that net promoter score starts to drop. And that's what we're here to do is um I used the term earlier today at a at a presentation that um your community um as we get all our approvals and start um working on this project, uh it becomes our community, too. Um there'll be a two to threeyear construction process, but then we'll be supporting you for 50 plus years. Um we've already been in in in some of our communities more than 20 years. So we look forward to um whatever happens. Um one of the um one of the most interesting thing is is cable TV. When we started cable TV, 80% of our customers bought it and today about a fourth do um they stream and and get contact content from other places. Uh we will continue to evolve and make sure that that um we compete for for

[91:03] customers um just as the incumbents do, but uh that we invest properly so that Boulder stays on the leading edge of connectivity for the for the next 50 years. Other questions for me? Yes. Yeah. Thanks thanks for the uh presentation, Brad. Appreciate it. So I'll now turn to council. Do we have any clarifying questions for the ALO team or for our city staff team? Uh well, thank you for being here. Um again, it's good to see you again and really appreciate the opportunity. I'll save some more comments later towards the end, but my question really centers centers around, you know, given the mandate that we've got from voters to do this and certainly the extensive work that staff has done in partnership with you guys to develop this. Um, it really centers around how are we best positioned and this may be more of a question for staff to streamline the implementation of this. And really I'm I'm concerned about any regulatory local regulatory hurdles or roadblocks that we

[92:02] may know exist in terms of being able to achieve this or we might not know until we get there. And really I want to understand how are we centered to expeditiously remedy those roadblocks because I I really want to make sure that the ability for ALO to implement what not only what's in the contract but the vision that you have and our community has for how this comes together is really predicated on us minimizing those roadblocks and making sure we get to the final outcome of providing great quality service to our residents as fast as possible. So I just want to make sure in many ways we're not in our own way in achieving that. So my question is to sort of generally staff, how are we prepared to minimize those roadblocks? Do we see any? And is there a path to expeditiously remedying those? I I can speak to that. Um, Assistant City Attorney Andy Froart, um, there's been a lot of discussions internally about what this means for the community just in terms of expediting construction and trying to reduce the

[93:01] impact on the public, um, traffic control management, things of that nature. Um there's the city's core team has staffed up and we've been discussing how we can implement this in a in a way that's efficient. Um so that is top of mind and I know there's there's already weekly meetings that we're having with Aloe that surround these very discussions. So um not sure if there's any additional context I can provide at this point but but it's it's it is top of mind for everyone. I I'll just add and thank you so much for that Andy that uh to your point there has been a multid-disciplinary team that has been doing this and again I I thank Mike Jasanti and it uh our deputy director who's been really uh at the forefront of this along with our uh team gathering uh this project. So uh folks from utilities, folks from legal, uh folks from PNDS, folks from all across uh the organization have been meeting quite extensively to do precisely that to make sure that we are prepared to communicate to um streamline to accelerate as much

[94:01] as we can. And so I just think the staff team who's really been working hard on this. Yeah. And from Alo's point of view, uh, we look at it the the early returns are are are very positive and and that doesn't mean Aloe gets special services or special things. It's a very large project and there are certain commitments we we've uh made related to the project, but number one thing is safety and protection of land and individuals. And so we'll develop that collaboratively um as we go through. You know, one of the number one things is always permitting what is the right pace so that the city is comfortable because it's that the city's responsibility to to provide protection to the citizens um and and the the businesses and the other investments in the area and marry that with um the need for a reasonably um

[95:05] fast or re appropriately paced I guess would be the best term. term um project and having done this uh god it's hard to say for almost a quarter century um each community develops a pace and the initial pace everybody's figuring out how to work together then it gets to a point that's that's the right pace for the community I can't predict that at this point but um I I the one thing that the professionalism that both sides are are de developing it. It appears that we'll have a successful product project. Um but you know it used to be I guess you know just a few years ago product uh inventory was hard to come by. Well now that's very available. Um and so it the controls will be related to permitting

[96:00] closing permits getting the next ones approved. How many can be worked at a single point in in time? how can we make sure that traffic is safe and and the like and um and and there'll there'll be some learning points but um I'm quite confident this will be extremely successful. Great. Other questions? Tesa, thank you. Thank you very much. Um I had a question about um so obviously we just had our conversation with Excel um about the partnership and one of the components was undergrounding. Um and so I was just kind of curious um the in the company values you talked about local and community and I just want to lift up in addition to human beings we also have other community members like wildlife etc. And so although I appreciate an effort for good conditions, I'm curious if there's opportunities to coordinate um with Excel or others that are doing any kind of destruction or

[97:01] excavation. Um you know, again, they're going to the same places. I don't know the science of this, but I would be curious if if you all have experience or background in that kind of company to company partnership. Thank you. Yeah. Um, Excel, uh, we've done several projects with them. Um, uh, you know, being co-utilities, um, our pace obviously is is is at a different um, uh, pace than than theirs and in undergrounding and and those types of things, but uh, the use of joint trench whenever uh, possible um is is very valuable. It's usually used in new developments so that there's to dig once, do it before the the cement's put in or the or the street is put in. Um but uh we've we've got a great working relationship. Um it starts with safety. Um they have power. You know, we're going alongside their power in many

[98:00] cases and and we work very well together. Um, and when available, obviously, we want to use that same trench, and it makes it less expensive for both of us. Um, and you're, um, you're not having to go, uh, next to or or beside, uh, power or water or those types of things. And so, uh, we we enjoy that relationship. I I see. Oh, there you come, Don. Hi, Don Mulvy, deputy director of IT. So, I want to give you example. We are working right now with Aloe um with the Chiakqua uh cottage leaseold area and so we were working there with Excel um and they have partnered on that project so that we are not going back and digging up later since we're working on it now. So that has begun. It's great to hear. All right. Uh I don't see any other hands raised. So we will go ahead and go to the public hearing and we have one person signed up to speak uh Lynn Seagull. Uh and they will get three minutes.

[99:03] Mayor, I do not see Lynn Seagull online tonight. In that case, I will close the public hearing and I will take it back to council for a discussion and a potential motion. Who wants to get us started? Matt, that was a hand raised, right? Yes. I saw you going for the button. I was that was um let's see where's my motion. I can try to find it in here. Do you want to throw in a comment while we're looking for motion language? Um so again, I just want to say thank you for the inclusion of the environmental sections um in the compliance section and I'm just hopeful that we can be an example of what great looks like and not just what good looks like. So, and it's wonderful to hear that we already have that kind of relationship with Excel and others, but this is good to great time.

[100:02] And so, I'm really um grateful for all that you've shared. Um but I am willing to continue to work with with everyone to make sure that we're continuing to elevate um as much as we can. So, I just wanted to say thank you for that. And also just on the waste management component as well. Um just wanted to thank you for thinking of not only the um the waste of the project but the end of life for the cables themselves and just your selection of things. I just really wanted to say thank you for uh the due diligence around the environmental components. Thank you. Thanks for that. Ta Matt, you got that motion ready to go? I do. Good thing you we have our own laptops. Um all right. Uh, I'm going to go ahead and make a motion to adopt ordinance 8688 granting a franchise by the city of Boulder, Colorado to Alo Communications LLC, its successors, and assigns pursuant to chapter 6, Boulder Cable Code BRC1981, and Alo Communications LLC's franchise application to furnish cable television services within the identified franchise

[101:01] areas of the city and to all persons, businesses, and industries within the franchise areas and the right to acquire, construct, install, locate, maintain, operate, and extend into, within, and through said franchise areas of the city of the city all facilities reasonably necessary to furnish cable television service services within the franchise area of the city, and the right to make reasonable use of all streets and other public places and public easements, as heron defined, as to be necessary for the benefit of the city of Boulder, and fixing the terms and conditions thereof and setting forth related details. Longest sentence ever. I didn't quite catch that the first time. Do we have a second? All right. Got a second there. Uh Matt, did you want to speak to your motion? Uh yeah. Um if I get over the long run on sentence. Um so for one, I I sort of

[102:00] preface this early on. I think this is this is a long time coming. The voters said, "Please go forth and do this." and we were trying to find a way to economically and feasibly make this happen. Um, it's a long time coming. Um, but it's great to see that through this public private partnership, we're actually able to to make this will of the voters come through and and really bring about some options and more choice to people in our community. And I think more choice is always a good thing, especially when you see those scores up there. um as you showed, I think our our residents will be happy to see that that choice brings about perhaps some better service. Um so we love the opportunity for that. Um and it's just always good to be able to fulfill the will of the voters and looks like we have a great partner. So looking forward to seeing how this all comes to fruition. Um really appreciate the great work and collaboration between staff and Aloe um and everybody else. So thank you for that. Thanks. Did you want to speak to it? Well said. Well said. Any other comments before we go to a vote? Seeing none, Elicia, can we do a

[103:01] roll call, please? We certainly can, sir. We'll start the night's roll call for the second reading and adoption of ordinance 8688 with council member Wallock. I Adams, yes. Benjamin, yes. Mayor Brockett, yes. Mayor Pro Tim Folkertz, yes. Council member Marquis, yes. Shoe Hard, yes. And Spear, yes. Ordinance 8688 is hereby adopted unanimously. Very good. Well, congratulations and we are just so excited to have you introduce that new service to Boulder. So, appreciate you coming here from your home home cities and also for having a good local partner here as well helping you out. So, look forward to the next steps. Thanks so much. All right. Thanks, Carl and Andy. With that, let's go to our final

[104:00] public hearing, please. Yes, sir. I'm going to try to talk slow so John can transition, but tonight's second public hearing is item 5B, and it is the consideration of a motion to approve the 2025 boards and commission appointments. And uh with that, mayor, we've got a great team here from our city clerk's office who is actually going to take that right back. So I send that over to our own Miss Elicia Johnson. Thank you, Naria, as always. You're so gracious. I'm going to give John a couple of minutes to pull up the slide, but tonight, Council Elicia Johnson, serving you and the city as your city clerk and records manager, we will go through the 2025 boards and commissions nominations and then eventually appointments. So before we begin the process of nominating and appointing board and commission candidates to fill our current vacancies, I'm going to provide

[105:00] an outline of our process for this item. There are two steps. First, I will present a slide of the number of seats that were vacant, the number of applicants receive, applications received along with the number of eligible candidates. The second step will be I will ask the mayor to open the our public hearing, close it when it's completed, and turn the discussion back to me to provide council with guidance on how the nomination and appointment process will proceed. John, now if you would please advance to the next slide. As you can see, for our 2025 application summary, we had 36 vacancies throughout our boards and we had 122 applications that were received. And we also want to note that we had 85 eligible applicants that we processed. Now, two boards, the Shiitakwa Association and the Downtown Management

[106:01] Commission were not receiving applications at this time because there was no vacancies. Now, I will turn it over to the mayor to open and close the public hearing at this time. All right, I will go ahead and open the public hearing. We have three speakers, each of whom will have three minutes to speak. And those three speakers in order are Lynn Seagull, Aiden Cook, and Daniela Withar. Mayor, I do not see Lynn online tonight. All right, let's go to Aiden then. Hello. Uh, okay. Uh, good evening. My name is Aiden Cook. I'm a lifelong resident of Boulder. I'm asking the council tonight to just consider and put a little bit of weight on animal welfare in board appointments tonight. I so appreciate Councilwoman Adams reminding us that wildlife are important members of our community and our policy choices also affect non-human community members

[107:00] beyond our borders. So despite Boulder's environmental leadership, there's a bit of a gap in our policies regarding farmed animal welfare. Um obviously animals endure intensive suffering yet receive essentially no government protections. Currently there have been some great discussions starting and emanating from some of the advisory boards. For instance, uh considering the asking the council to implement human food procurement guidelines for the city's facilities and events. Um, which would of course be a win for our climate goals as well. Just hopeful that appointees chosen tonight will carry those conversations forward. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Our final speaker is Daniela Withar. Good evening. My name is Daniela Withar and I've lived in Boulder since 2016. Uh, I'm a member of Proan Animal Future. We're a coalition of voters and volunteers advocating for stronger laws to protect animals from some of the worst forms of cruelty. And that's why I'm here tonight uh to urge you to consider the interests of animals in our city's policies. Uh while boards and

[108:01] commissions address really critical issues like sustainability, planning, and public health, um I believe the voices and needs of non-human animals are often left out of the conversation. Yet, animals, both wild and domestic, are directly impacted by our city's decisions, uh, just like we are as residents of Boulder. From wildlife management policies to regulations on companion animals like cats and dogs, um, their welfare is intertwined with our environmental and social goals. I was really encouraged to see that at least one candidate for the environmental advisory board highlighted animal welfare in their application. It's a perspective that I think deserves a lot more attention in Boulder's policym and I really hope that you'll consider it moving forward. Thank you so much for everyone's time and consideration. Thank you. All right, that brings us to the end of our speakers. So, I will close open comment and turn it back to uh John. Are you going to run us through the slides? So, Elicia, you're the master of ceremonies. Yes, I am. Thank

[109:02] you, sir. So at this time I want to just outline the instructions that we will follow for the nomination and appointment procedure. Please be reminded that this procedure is also outlined in our Boulder Revised Code and in your agenda materials. We will proceed through nominations one board or commission at a time in alphabetical order by board title. We will ask council members to make nominations to fill vacancies one seat at a time. Once nominations for the seat have been made by council members, council is welcome to discuss with each other before making final action. If one person is nominated for a seat, that appointment will stand if there are no objections. If more than one person is nominated for the same seat, we have a specific process for narrowing the candidates down to one finalist. A vote of support will be held for each individual that is nominated. Now,

[110:02] candidates must receive a minimum of five votes to be declared the finalist for a vacant seat. If the first round of voting does not produce a clear winner, the candidate with the fewest votes will drop from the nominee list and the vote will be conducted again. This continues until a single nominee remains. The order of nominees will be called either alphabetically or reverse alphabetically by last name of the nominees depending upon a flip of my coin. From that point on, I will alternate the order for all further nominee votes during this meeting where more than one candidate has been nominated. If a person is not selected for the first seat they are nominated for, they can be nominated for one of the other available seats on that board or commission or for another board or commission seat they apply to. This process is followed for each board or commission. Now, once council has

[111:00] determined a single appointed candidate for each seat, staff will request the consideration of a motion to approve the 2025 boards and commission appointments as noted. And this item will conclude for the evening. Now, for it to be noted, I am assisted by my elections administrator, John Morris, and he will keep track visually of the nominations and appointments via the screens. Nominated candidates will be highlighted as they are nominated and those nominated will be noted in red font. Mayor, I turn the meeting back to you and John and I are here to support this process as it continues. John, first board, please. I think uh Ryan had a question. Thanks, Mayor. Um just a procedural question. I think we have at least one applicant who has time remaining on an existing board. There there might be more than one example, but I think I know of at least one. And I would like to ask, is there a

[112:01] way to manage this process such that if that person moves to another board that we're able to use the space that was created and and fill that today rather than wait a whole another year to address that? And I suppose one way to do that might be just to if we could identify any of the boards which have someone who is applying for another board to do that one at the end because then we would know by the time we got to it. I recognize this might be a monkey wrench that I'd ask. Thank you. Well, we have one member that is currently serving on the EAB that has applied to three other boards. So what we did in a proactive manner was to inform this candidate that if he is appointed which he can be to another board he would immediately need to resign from his current seat at EAB and unless I'm misunderstood mistaken we can at that point tonight fill his seat

[113:00] because we do have a tenative resignation on file. So what I might Thanks for raising that Ryan. What I might suggest is that we go all the way through the board appointments and if at the end of that time we do have the situation where that individual has been appointed to another board, we could then return to EAB at that time if that's acceptable. So we've got our we'll start tonight's boards and commissions nomination and appointment process with the arts commission. We have two seats available on that commission. Seat five and seat 7 are both to appoint a member to a five-year term throughout March of 2030. We have several candidates for this position. We have Carol Brewer, who is already serving on the board and has been a member of the board since 2021. Elicia, is that not Carolyn Kurt who's the existing member? It is Carol. I'm sorry. Carolyn Kurt. I I believe the existing member is Caroline Kurt, not Carol Brewer.

[114:01] I'll have John have to verify that. Uh, good evening, city council. John Morris, elections administrator. I I do not have my boards and commissions database in front of me. Uh, but that does sound correct and I can make that correction on the power. So, I'm Thank you. And I'm looking at the website of the current members and it is in fact Caroline Kurt on the website. All right. Thank you, mayor, for catching that. We so appreciate that and uh we apologize for the typo. All right, so we will continue with our candidates. Carol Brewer, Emily Burroughs, Beth Islaki, Carolyn Kurt, who is the current member that has been serving since 2021. Patty Liieber, Sarah Sanderson, Mila Sigorski, and please forgive me, Gay Gay Alri Venet. Thanks. But before I ask for the first nomination, well, I'll just say I'll

[115:01] encourage uh folks obviously nominate people that you would like to see serving. When you talk about their virtues, if I could just encourage brevity because we have a lot of people and a lot of boards that we're getting through tonight. So, um when you speak up for your preferred candidate, just I'd encourage you to be um concise in that advocacy. And with that in mind, um nominations. Nicole. Uh yes. I wanted to nominate uh Mila Sakorski for seat number five. That's the one that we're starting with. And would you like me to say a couple words now or we um why don't we get the nominations and then speak to them if you don't mind. Any other nominations here? I'm going to nominate uh Carol Brewer. Yes. Mark. Carolyn Kurt. Yes. Taiisha. Sarah Sanderson. Sorry. Yes. No. Uh, Gia 3. Okay. Gia 3 Venet, not Sarah Sanderson.

[116:02] Okay. So, we'll undo Sarah and instead do GIA 3 Venet, please. Any others? All right. Well, if people would like to speak to their nominations, Nicole, you start off. Um, yeah. I I think u having uh younger people and student uh voices is always a nice thing to have on our boards and commissions. Um that was Mila. Uh I appreciated her comments in her interview about um just thinking about how to amplify uh immigrant voices especially um right now and thought she had interesting perspective as a poet law student. Thanks chair. Keeping it brief. She had a fant Carol had a fantastic interview and she's very qualified and I think she'll do a great job. Uh Carolyn Kurt is uh is an incumbent. Uh I found her performance uh in the interviews to be um excellent. I I

[117:00] thought um uh she was extremely articulate, awesomely knowledgeable about the field. Um, and she's an attorney and uh an arts attorney actually and uh I think she's worthy of reappoint. Thank you. Um I uh recommended um uh Gaia 3 because I believe that it is really critical um that we maintain strong um representative diversity on our board and commission and our arts commission in particular. Um, I appreciated um not only the uh interest around the Dairy Art Center, but also and the and the relationship there um but also just acknowledging um a lot of the other components that she brings um to the work. I also just want to lift up that the only um you know, we had racial and ethnic diversity on the arts

[118:01] council. Um, I think it's concerning that that that there wasn't a an option to or the the uh person in did not seek reappointment and so I have some concerns around that. Um, and that's why I am making the recommendation that I'm making. Um, thank you very much. Thanks. All right. So, are we alphabetical or reverse? We'll start with alphabetical. Okay. So, and I will ask people to raise your hands conspicuously so I can see uh easily. So, we'll go alphabetical order. All those in favor process question. Yes. Process question is just for habit. Are we in this initial voting? Are we deciding which seat that we want to go for? Because right now it's sort of it's it's moot because they're both five, but at some point we're going to get to five, twos, one. So, I just want to make for practice. Are we identifying up front or like how's that go in the process? Are we just getting to finalists and then we choose which seat we want or is this initial voting for

[119:02] seat five or seven? Are we announcing? I'm just wondering how do we wither down which seat we get to? Thanks for checking on that. Lauren, did you want to speak to that? I would just say that typically we have been doing the longest term first um and then moving through towards shorter terms progressively as we appoint candidates. Yeah. And I think we that's a good practice. Uh but maybe Elicia we can when they have the same number of years we could proceed in numeric orders that we would be starting with seat number five. Is that um I have a question? Yes that that would be the normal procedure for us to appoint to seat five first and fe seat seven since they both have equal terms. Okay. Very good. Ter can I pull off Carol and then do her for the next seat or is it too You can withdraw the nomination if you would like. Yeah. It's a lot of people so I'll withdraw um Carol for now. Yes. Okay. So Carol is off the table. Uh seats for seat for seat number five. Yes. Okay. So we have three people. Um Carolyn, Mila, and Gia 3. So in

[120:02] alphabetical order, all those in favor of Carol and Kurt, raise your hand. Looks like we got five on that one. And then all those Well, I mean it's I I will ask people, would you prefer that I finish out the process if we already have a majority or just say we've got a majority? just move on. Yeah. Okay. Um I will just move on then. So Carolyn Kurt has seat number five. Wait, I'm sorry. Is it just who how we go first? We're not going to say it doesn't really get five and then we decided off the five because I feel like so once you have once you have a majority then the question is decided but we have another seat. So it just I feel like it should be I guess I have concerns with how we're doing this because it's then gives advantage to alphabetical order. Does anybody else see what I'm

[121:00] talking about? If we had started with Mila with the thing and she got five, then would she get that seat? If we started with I was just saying if we're going by alphabetical order, then it would advantage whoever has uh earlier in the alphabet. I mean, I would say if you don't think so, then if we got to Mila and started with her and did five and if we do it reverse the other way, Mila still wouldn't be an option for five. So, can somebody explain to me how that's not how that's fair? Uh, so we have to go some for two candidates. I would just say that, Ty, that we have to go in some order. Um, I I think probably I don't know, Teresa, did you want to speak to this? The council rules of procedure provide for this procedure. Um when you are voting certainly what you need to keep in mind is that you can o for each seat you can only vote one time and so um once a majority carries it's not possible that another person

[122:01] would carry a majority because that is the clear winner at that point. Okay. It's basically because there are um because you can only vote once per round. Yeah. Per seat. Okay. Per seat. And so we can just keep that in mind is make sure and vote for your preferred candidate whether they come up first, second, third, or fourth. Keepers RS. Thank you. Okay. Well, so that uh Carolyn Kurt is selected for seat number five for a five-year term. Uh, let's go to seat number seven, also for a five-year term. Nominations. Nicole. I would like to nominate Ma again. Um, same reasons. Other nominations? Tara, Carol Brewer. Same reason. Good. Did you want to nominate again? All right. Any other nominations? Seeing no. Yep. I'd like to nominate Gaia for the same

[123:01] reasons that uh Taiisha did previously. Okay. Uh seeing no other nominations, we now vote in uh reverse order. Yes, sir. So, um all in favor of Guy, raise your hand. We got three. All in favor of Mila Sakorski. Got two. All in favor of Carol Burr. We got four. Um, all right. So, Mila drops out. Yes. And so, we got two here. Now, in this going back in regular alphabetical order, we got Carol and Gia. Three. So, all in favor uh all in favor of Carol. I got three. All in favor of Gaia 3. I got six. So Gaia 3 is appointed to

[124:02] seat number seven with a five-year term. All right. Thank you. Our next board we will review is the Beverage Licensing Authority. We have two seats open there. Okay. Seat number one is to appoint a member to a 5-year term through March of 2030. Seat number four is to appoint a member to an unexpired three-year term through 328. We have two applicants. First, we have Ginger Barnes. We do want to note that she applied also to the housing advisory board and the parks and recck advisory board and Lancing Crane who also applied to the transportation advisory board. Yeah, I see Lauren first. I just wanted to clarify she also applied to the human relations commission as well I believe. Who? Ginger. Ginger. Ginger. Okay.

[125:02] Although I don't know if she interviewed for human issues. M I'll check on that. Uh so I have a process question. Um, this is an instance where we're basically appointing by advocation. Um, because we don't have more candidates than seats. So, I'm just sort of curious what do we want to do in this instance? I personally not a big fan of just in this case appointing by abdication. So, I don't know. Is this one that we would want to decide to leave it open so we at least have more options than seats available. So I just pose that and I don't know going forward we're going to have a few of these boards and so I don't know what's the recommendation of council on how to proceed. Do we take them one at a time or do we have a general uh process where we're like hey we're going to treat this sort of across the board if we don't have that we have the same number of candidates as seats we're going to leave it open or we going to treat it one by one. So I just wanted to get everyone's ideas on how we want to proceed on that one because I have a personal discomfort with appointing by

[126:01] abdication. I'm going to turn to Teresa. Um Teresa, if we wanted as a council to reopen rather than a point this evening, I don't believe it's covered in the rules and procedures, would that be like a not of five kind of a thing, like all in favor of holding this open? Uh it it would be a vote. Um and so you would you would vote to appoint um one seat and you would leave one seat open by a majority vote if that is the will of council. Um, this council has done that before. Well, you could appoint one, leave one open, or you could leave both open. Correct. That's true. You the Sorry. Yes. You can vote um you can vote for an appointment or you could vote to leave the seat open. So, would that be like a nomination for the seat? Like could somebody could say I nominate candidate A and somebody could say I nominate that we leave it open. Um, you know, that's not how we've done

[127:02] it in the past. How we've done it in the past is somebody would suggest it it's left open there. There would then be a vote. Okay. I we can work with that. Um, yes, Mark. Um, I actually would would vote to uh to appoint. We never get a plethora of candidates for BLA and we're often short or almost short of candidates. If we have two who are prepared to serve, you know, unless either one of them has some special defect in terms of their capabilities or, you know, willingness maybe, well, maybe the fact that they're willing to service is a bad sign. But the fact that they are, I I I appreciate and uh uh would rather not wait for the landslide of applications uh for this board that never comes. Okay, fair fair point. I will say that if we do decide to hold any seats open, I don't think it will be because of a a special defect on the part of anybody, but just maybe looking for some

[128:01] additional guidance. I'll change the wording. Yeah, Lauren and then Nicole. Um I guess I just wanted to point out that it's in terms of boards that we have applicants for but not more applicants than seats available would be beverage licensing design advisory board HRC landmarks board uni hill and rab which is a significant number of boards to hold open and not appoint tonight. So, at the very least, I would personally recommend that we're not doing that across the board. I wanted to nominate Lancing Crane for seat number one. So, you don't you don't want to hold off, but I think I think we're going to consider the possibility of holding off first before we go to nominations. So, Matt, did you want to then kind of formally propose that we hold this one open?

[129:03] Yeah, I I would like to propose that we make known Well, let me ask a a process question on top of that. Is by not nominating does this board become unable to serve its function if it has two vacancies? It varies by board. And so this is a great question that I wish you had asked much earlier in the day. I can do some quick research. My apologies, Teresa. That's okay. Another option was Why am I listening to myself? Well, because we keep having this issue, maybe the boards and commissions subcommittee can come up with a ruling or maybe uh suggest a ruling to council. we don't rule ourselves um and not decide just on the fly. And

[130:02] it's an awful lot of open boards, but I think we should do something, but maybe not tonight. Okay. So, there's a proposal to consider for the boards and commissions subcommittee going forward. Um are we waiting for maybe give Teresa a minute? Tina, did you want to say something? Could I inter um I I'm not sure exactly what we're going to do, but um I feel fine with both of these candidates. So, I just want to throw that out into the universe. Let me just save let me just save this by chance and just say, look, it I'll just ask the question, then we can do the research. Um my my I would prefer to leave these this one particularly open um and then try to get more candidates. If I'm not in the majority, then it saves Teresa some on

[131:00] the flight research. Mayor, we have a quick clarification on that. John, uh on the topic of a quorum, we do have a provision in our code that allows members to continue their service until their vacancy is filled. Uh that is understanding they do want to continue their service. Uh but the BLA would be able to continue meeting and making quorum with the understanding the members that see are going to expire do want to continue until then. Okay. So did you want to make a I mean I just kind of did if you want me to say it again. Yeah. I would like to propose leaving this open this BLA open and finding more candidates. Uh all all in favor of leaving it open. Got a couple. So we're not doing that. So let's move to nominations. So let's go for um seat number one. So the five-year term. Nicole, I just wanted to clarify real quick. Mayor, if I may interrupt, that we did check that Ginger

[132:01] did apply for that board, but she chose not to interview for that board. And you're speaking now of HRC for the HRC. My apologies. for. So, she did apply, but she didn't interview for that board. Okay, Nicole. Well, real quick question is um she applied that means to four boards. So, I'm assuming she's not allowed to we can't count her for the fourth board. Is that true? I mean, right now, what's in front of us is whether to appoint her to the BLA. So, let's get through that question then. Check. Nicole. Yes. Um so, I was going to nominate Lancing Crane for seat number one. um the five-year term. Um yeah, great. Other nominations? Uh seeing none, um that'll be by acclamation. So So then we have the uh seat number four, the three unexpired three-year term. Yep. Nicole, not Nicole, Lauren. Okay.

[133:03] Um, I know that Ginger did not interview for the HRC position, but given her background, I thought that she would be a good fit for that board. And so, I was interested in seeing how the vote went for that before we determine whether or not to appoint her for this. I mean, I think we're going in alphabetical order, by board, but we could come back to, you know, we could wait it. But then I would need to ask Teresa, I guess, if if somebody applies for four boards, if this is her fourth board and it's not the one she interviewed for, is she even allowed are we even allowed to counter count her or am I being unclear? I'm going to I'm going to look to our um city clerk. Is someone is there a limit on the number of boards someone can apply to?

[134:01] I'm sorry, I didn't understand the question. Is there a limit to the number of boards someone can apply to? No, not I'm not familiar with such a limit. No, there's so they can apply for every board, but they can only sit on one. Are you sure? Except for the BJs. Okay. So, we have an answer to that question and let's try to move through. We're going awfully slowly through these boards. Yes, Mark on on the mic. I I I defer to Teresa and and Alicia, but I I had a strong recollection that that three was the limit. I I may be entirely incorrect in that, but So, but Nicole, did you have a suggestion? Well, yeah. I was I was just going to say I mean, she didn't interview for one, right? And there are other candidates that were that filled out an application but didn't interview. And so just from a process perspective,

[135:01] it doesn't sound right to think about someone who's applied to a board where we have an open seat and um think about having them for another board that they chose not to interview for. So it just it's a little this is all a little mixed up for me. So um I mean I'm happy to nominate somebody if that helps move us forward too. Yeah, I Lauren, I appreciate the request, but the kind of a conditional wait and then come back, I think it's maybe too complicated um and not part of our rules of procedures. So, does would somebody like would somebody like to make a another nomination for a nomination for seat number four, the three-year term? Mark, I'll nominate uh Ginger Barnes. I won't ask for other nominations because there are no other candidates. So, um I think that means by application uh by with no one else involved then uh Ginger gets the um seat number four. Yes.

[136:01] Um I don't understand why we still don't have to vote and like the person would still need to get a majority to get on. I don't Can somebody explain that to me? Uh well Teresa, I know that um I know you're looking up something else. Uh we're throwing it fast and furious. I know in the past we've generally when we've only had one nomination, we've done it by acclamation. Do you think that we should have an actual vote in case so many people abstain that it's not five votes? Uh yes, mayor. I think the best practice is to to hold a vote. Okay, fair point, Taiisha. Thanks for asking. Thank you. Sorry. Okay, so um I'm going to go back to Lancing then since we're being uh corrected on this. So, let's uh go into the way back machine. And uh we haven't we have just nominated Lancing for seat number one for the 5-year term. There is no other nomination. All in favor of appointing Lancing to seat number one, raise your hand. All right, we got nine people there. Um yes. And and now rolling forward a little bit further into the

[137:00] future, Mark has just nominated Ginger Barnes for um seat number four, the three-year term. All in favor of Ginger Burns, raise your hand. That was five. Okay. All right. Let's move on to the next board and um appreciate us working through the process questions, but hopefully we can just hopefully we can just um move through the process here. All right, we got um All right, folks. Board of zoning adjust adjustment. I'm starting to stutter. I'm starting to stutter here after all this. Boza, we got seat number five appointing a member to a five-year term. We have three people who have applied. Um, do I need to read the names, Elicia? I mean, if you'd like me to, that what is our normal procedure? Yeah, go ahead. All right. So, again, we can change on the

[138:02] fly. We have the board of zoning adjustment seat number five is open to appoint members to a five-year term through March of 2030. We have Joe Foley who applied also to the planning board. Jean Hanley, I mean Sean Hanley and Finn Jackson. Thanks. Nominations got Ryan like to nominate Sean Haney. Terra, I'd like to nominate Joe Foley. Uh, seeing no other hands, we've got two nominations, Joe Foley and Sean Haney. And I think we Yes, Lauren. Can I just do a shout out for Finn, but not nominate them? Sure. Yay, Finn. Thank you for applying, Finn. You are also really great. Thank you, Finn. Ryan, do you want to speak to your nomination? Sean's someone who has showed up for uh uh land use issues in a number of different ways in in the

[139:00] recent months and year um coming to talk to us and help us um try to get policy right. So I think he's a he's a sharp thinker and he's a dedicated advocate and like to see him on this board. Great chair Joe did a great interview and he's very qualified and I liked him. Good. Uh believe we're in alphabetical order. Yes sir. No, we're reverse alphabetical because we had three rounds with the last multiple. Okay, so to reverse alphabetical. Yes. All right. All in favor of Sean Haney, raise your hand. All right, we got six and um all in favor of Joe Foley. We got three. All right, so Sean is appointed to seat number five. All right, our next board we will review is our Boulder Junction Access District Parking Commission. Now, we do want to note we have three seats available on this commission. We have seats one and

[140:01] three, which are to appoint a member to I'm sorry, seat one. Let's start individually because they're not they're different terms. Appoint member to a unexpired three-year term through March 28th. Again, this is seat one, and this seat is for a property owner or representative. Seat three is to appoint a member to an expired one-year term through 3 through March 26 and must also be a property owner or representative. And we have seat five, which is to appoint a member to a 5-year term through 331 2030. We have one applicant and that is Daniel Daniel Eisman and he is eligible for seat number five only. We do want to note for council that under the voter revised code section 2-3-21H staff has requested that Daniel Eisman be appointed to both the Bjad parking commission and travel demand commission. And also note that Mr.

[141:01] Eisman has been contacted by staff and we have a written approval that he has agreed to be if appointed to serve on both commissions if that is desire of council. Very good. But we should do them one board at a time I believe. Yes. So um this is this is going to be for seat number five for a five-year term. Do we have a nomination? I'd like to go ahead and nominate Daniel Eisenman uh for the simple reason that he's arguably one of the most overqualified people for this role in Bjad uh TDM. Um and we love overqualified. Uh he's just he's an amazing human and does great work. So, um Daniel's the right person for this. Okay. All in favor of Daniel, raise your hand. All right, we got nine. Daniel gets seat number five. All right. Thank you. Next, we'll look at the Boulder Junction Access District Travel Demand Management

[142:00] Commission. We have three seats available on that commission. Seat three is to appoint a member to an expired three-year term through March 2028. This seat must be filled with a property owner or representative. We have seat four, which is to appoint a member to a 5-year term through March of 2030. And then we have seat five, which is to appoint a member to an unexpired four-year term through March of 2029. The applicant that applied for this is Kevin Cruz, and he is eligible for seats four and five. Great. And then Daniel Eman has also expressed a willingness uh to be appointed to this as well. So, let's start with seat number four, the five-year term. Lauren. Um, I wanted to nominate Daniel for this more because of the term alignments. We just already appointed appointed him to a five-year seat and I think that it would make sense to um not have him serve on one and not the other and have

[143:00] them out of alignment. Great point. Any other nominations for the seat? Seeing none, all in favor of Daniel for the seat? That's unanimous. So, Daniel gets appointed to seat number four. How about seat number five, the four-year term? Do we have a nomination? Tara, I'll nominate Kevin Krauss. He was good. Because he's good. Okay, very good. So, Kevin Krauss has been nominated. No one else is eligible. All in favor of Kevin for the seat. That is unanimous. Kevin gets seat number five. All right. Thank you, council. Next, we have the design advisory board. We have one seat available here and that is seat five and that is to appoint a member to a five-year term through March 2030 and this seat must be filled with a design professional. We have one applicant for this seat and that is Brendan Ash and she has been a member of that board since 2021. Lauren,

[144:01] I was really excited that to see that Brandon Ash um reapplied. I think that they've done a great job um on this role thus far and I'm excited to see her continue forward with this. Um I did just want to note that we had more than one application, but because of how we're currently interpreting like professional requirements for particular boards, it was narrowed down to one. And because there are already a number of people on the bold on the design advisory board that in my opinion meet that professional requirement, I would like to have the boards and commissions discuss how we do that to try and give us more flexibility in the future. Something for the subcommittee to look at. Yeah. Okay. And can you say the words of nomination there? I'd love to nominate Brendan Ash. say the words. Okay, we have uh Brendan

[145:01] Ash uh nominated for seat number five. All in favor, raise your hand. All right, I got nine on that. So, Brandon is appointed to seat number five. All right, next our board to review is our environmental advisory board. We have one seat open and that is to appoint a member to a five-year term through March of 2030. We have several applicants and so my apologies if I um do not pronounce your name wrong I mean correctly. So we have Astro Bolio, Austin Everett, Richard Gio Giosia, Daniel Howard, Dan Dayton Martenddale Floyd McCullen Tina Mu who has also applied to the open space boards of trustees Hannah Alman L. Alfonso Perez, Duran, James Forhees, and Adam Winston.

[146:01] Very good. Uh, so we got seat number five, five-year term. Nominations, please. I'm seeing Mark over here first. Well, this is an abundance of riches. I mean, there were five people at least that that I would have been very, very happy to see serve on this board. Um, uh, since I can only make one nomination, we only have one seat, uh, I would, uh, nominate Adam Winston. Others, Tina, I'd like to nominate Tina Mu. Yeah, Ryan, agree with Mark and I'd like to nominate Daniel Howard. All right. I'm mostly staying out of the nominations, but yes, Taiisha, I wanted I would like to nominate Hannah. Oh, okay. Well, you you took care of it for me, so thank you. Perfect. All right. Any other nominations? Uh, seeing none, did uh you

[147:00] want to speak to your nomination, Mark? Yeah, I just thought his background was was extremely was very extensive in in the field. Um and again he um interviewed very strongly uh very very very articulate um and uh he's even written a paper on achieving a zero waste program. So he he he's checking the boxes for this particular board and uh I think he would uh do a terrific job as would several others. Gina, yeah, I just want to agree with the comments about the incredible candidates in this pool in particular, but um we have an an incredible climate initiatives team that has expertise that always amazes me. And when I think about the environmental advisory board, it's how do we connect that expertise and those strategies to the community. So, I'm nominating Tina Mu because of her um long outreach in the community with

[148:01] children as a teacher from Centennial Middle School and her specialty in botany. Uh and just thinking about not so much about trying to be part of the staff, but instead connecting the work of the staff into the community. I could think of no better candidate. Thank you. Thanks, Brian. We have a few boards like this where there's just a ton of uh uh wealth in our applicants and so I like to think about what what modern problems are we trying to solve and um we have now a climate initiatives plan to work on land use meaningfully for I think really the first time. Daniel Howard is somebody who comes to us with with data graphics and presentations um month after month and he's he's very smart on um the topics that we are trying to um uh advance in our in our one of our council's priorities. So that's that's Daniel Ta.

[149:01] Thank you. I lifted up Hannah and and for a candidate um for a couple of areas. She was one of the only ones that really talked about corporate responsibility, which I think is an incredible growth area for the environmental advisory board. In addition, she's one of the few people that talked about environmental justice, which is currently not well represented on staff and um I think that that is a area we still have, as you all know, um our mobile park communities and mobile home communities still have a lower water quality. I know they're doing their work on the state level, but I would love to have somebody who has a really deep understanding. We also have the Valmont coal ash issue as well. Um as uh we also have Marshall the Marshall not fire but the Marshall Mesa um and the coal cleanups there. And so once again, um I am just seeing a gap, but I will agree with my colleagues that this is a very very strong board. And if anything, I'm hopeful that we can get some more cross-pollination and have

[150:00] more environmentally focused people on our housing, on our planning, on our those kinds of things. So if you don't get onto this one, please consider applying again. um and also consider applying for other boards that you may not think because every board should have a climate expert um with a variety of different um expertise. So that's why I'm lifting them up and thank you. Thanks. All right. Well, I'll agree with my colleagues that I would be happy with any of these four nominees. I wish we had more spots available. Elisha, I've lost track. Are we reverse? Alphabetical. Okay. So, in alphabetical order, all those in favor of Daniel Howard, we're going by last name. Oh, thank you. Alphabetical by last name. So, Daniel Howard. Uh, okay. Not seeing any hands raised for Daniel. Uh, Tina MW, I got three. Hannah Olman, I got two. and Adam Winston got

[151:03] four. Okay, so Daniel drops off because he had zero. Um, and do I do I have to run it again? Okay. Yeah. All right, we're going to go reverse alphabetical now with Daniel dropped off. So, we're going to start with Adam Winston. We got three. Oh, four. Okay, I got four there. Hannah Ultman, we got two. Tina Mu, we got three. So, Hannah Oldman drops off. So, last round uh with Tina Mu and Adam Winston, we'll go alphabetical. All those in favor of Tina Mu, we got three and Adam Winston. That gives us six. So, Adam Winston is appointed to seat number five. also renewable energy.

[152:00] All right. All right. Thank you, council. Next, we'll look at our housing advisory board. We have two seats available to fill on this board. Seat number two is to appoint a five a member to a 5-year term through March 2030. And seat four is to appoint a member to an unexpired two-year term through March 2027. We have five applicants up that that we presented to you. We'll start with Ginger Barnes who again applied to the BLA and the Parks and Rex Advisory Board. Dylan Hch, Jessica Ramir, Lauren Chetsz, and Cynthia Torres. All right, let's start with seat number two, the five-year term. I've got Nicole in my line of sight. Where' you go, Matt? He saw you first. Okay. I feel like Erin's looking right at me today. So, I don't know how I keep looking at the screen over here. I know, right? I know. I'm like,

[153:01] perfectly positioned tonight. I um I wanted to nominate Cynthia Flores. Okay. Any other nominations for this seat? Uh Nicole, would you like to speak? I'd love to. Um she's been so active in our community. uh and and I think having uh the perspective of a manufactured home resident as well uh is a really wonderful thing for housing advisory board. So I was thrilled when I saw her name and very thrilled to nominate her. Great. All in favor? Raise your hand. That's unanimous. Cynthia Torres for seat number two. So let's go to seat number four, the two-year term nominations, please. Looking in this direction. Oh, Matt. Um, I'm gonna uh nominate uh Jessica Rymer. Um, okay. Others, Tara, I'm going to nominate Lauren Chevets. Chevets. Any

[154:01] others? Uh, don't seeing any others. So, Matt, you want to speak? Yeah, I think um I think Jessica brings a professional expertise that could bring about I think some a refreshing diversity of thought um that we typically don't have in housing advisory board. And so I think when we think about some of our boards is how do we make sure that we've got a ve a smattering a smorgishborg of of different professions. And so I think that Jessica brings a unique and slashnew perspective to have that it hasn't had in a very long time. Great chair. I'm gonna say the same exact thing about Lauren. Exactly his words so I don't repeat myself. Ditto just for another person. Okay. Sorry. Are we alphabetical now? Okay. All right. We're alphabetical. So raise your hand to uh for Jessica Rmmer. One, two, three. Uh Lauren

[155:01] Chevitz. That's six. So, Lauren Chevitz gets seat number four. All right. Thank you, council. Next, we have the housing authority. We have one seat available for that uh or board, and it is to appoint a member to a 5-year term through March 2030, and it is for seat six. We have five applicants. Matthew Besanette who has been a member of that board since 2020, Andrew Berwick, Rabia Casim who also applied to our transportation advisory board, Peter Stir and Hernand Balunea again forgive me who also applied to the planning board and TAB and he is the current member of the environmental advisory board seat one and his term ends in March of 2026. Right. So, uh, for seat number six, five-year term nominations, Mark. Yeah,

[156:01] I'm going to, uh, nominate Matt Bisinette for that seat. Good. Other nominations? Yeah, Matt. Um, I'd like to nominate Anon Villain Noea. Anybody else? Seeing none, you want to speak to yours? Yes, I do. Um the the basis for my nomination is that I've uh been a representative of this council to the board of BHP for a couple of years now and I would regard Matt as of the nine of us easily the most knowledgeable and the strongest of the board members. Um in addition we are uh BHP is going to have a substantial turnover next year in terms of seats. Three or four seats are going to be open and um I value a little bit of continuity uh on the board. Um especially given the climate in which we're operating. So I I think very highly of Matt um and he's been working in this space of affordable housing for

[157:00] 25 years. And I think that's something to take note of. Thanks, Matt. Um, yeah, my nomination for Arnan is is largely based on his impeccable service at EAB. Um, but also that he's got a very, I think, uh, interesting focus with middle-income housing as it really pertains to our school enrollment challenges. Um, you know, he's a father of young children, um, and in our elementary school program. And I think that, and he's just a phenomenally smart and dedicated human. Um, and I'll just say as a as as a caveat, I mean, also Matthew is great, Heron is awesome. I think these are two incredible candidates that we would uh be be great to have either way. Um, but I think Hernand bringing some middle income uh uh desires to help sort of nudge BHP in that direction I think is a good thing. Very good. Taisha, I just want to lift up um Hernand's service to the advis uh environmental advisory board as well. Um but also just

[158:01] lift up the need for cross-pollination, pun intended, on our housing authority. Currently, there is not somebody with significant experience and expertise in energy, water, um and and that's exactly the kinds of of perspectives right now more than ever that we need on the board at this time. And although I appreciate Matthew's service, um and I'm hopeful that they would be willing to to stay involved and there's a variety of different ways community members can can stay involved beyond our boards and commissions. So, I want to honor that. But I was very very excited um to have Hearnen's candidacy. Um and it wasn't actually for the middle income piece. It was really around um I I really am hopeful that we have some more uh strength in in the environmental perspective in our housing decisions. Thank you. Thanks for that. Um all right, so we are in reverse alphabetical. So all in favor of Ernan Bianea, we got four. All in favor of

[159:00] Matthew Beset. That is five. Yep. Yeah. Um I know that Hernand didn't get this one and I don't know how he'll play out on the others, but I hope he gets a seat now and if not I hope he reapplies. He's a he he's a rising star in our community and so I'd really like to see him continue to be involved in one way or the other. Yeah, great point. Thanks, Ta. While we're on points, I would be remiss if I didn't bring up um I would like the boards and commissions um committee to look at the process that we use for um recommendations as well for candidates. Um recognizing that this board in particular has oversight responsibilities. And so, um, just being mindful of, um, you know, if there are conversations that are being had at the individual council level, um, that any contextual information that is provided during those conversations are available to all council members. Unfortunately,

[160:01] that was not the case. And I think it's really important that we um take a look at just the again I'm fine for if if uh folks that are on the committee or um on in the organization want to make a recommendation but I want to make sure that that's available to everyone all the time. Um, and similarly, it just felt like getting recommendations. I would I would I would be taken aback if Brad Mueller, for example, contacted me with recommendations for somebody he thought was a strong candidate for the planning board. Um, it's just not, you know, it's just something that as a as a governance professional, um, I wanted to lift up as, uh, an issue that I saw in this round, um, that I'm hopeful that we can get some clarity and consistency around. Thank you. Okay. Point point taken tentation. All right. Yes. Yeah. Just just one more thing about Hernand um who is valued. Um I think it is the intention of uh uh BHP to offer him a

[161:02] nonboard seat on its development committee so that he will get background, he will be educated and so that next year when several seats are open um he will not only hopefully be a candidate, he will be an an extremely knowledgeable candidate. Thanks for sharing that. All right, next board please. Alicia. Yes, sir. Thank you. Next we are going to look at the human relations commission. We have one seat available there and that is to appoint a member for a 5-year term through March 30, 2030. We have one applicant and that is Barry French and he also applied to the Open Space Board of Trustees. Thanks for that. Uh yeah, Matt. All right, I'm going to come back to a process and maybe I get another bite at the apple. Um, I would like to keep uh this particular uh HRC seat open to hopefully seek um some more candidates. Okay. So, we have a proposal out on the table yet. Mark, just a clarifying

[162:02] question. Is there something particular about this board that um makes you want to do this? Yeah. I mean, I can answer. Well, I just I guess some of these boards we typically don't get a large number of applicants to like be jaded and things like that. We're in BLA, we often only have the number we're lucky if we have the number of applicants as seats we have open, but this board we typically tend to get significantly more applicants. Um, so for me, that's part of why I might be interested in this. Oh, I mean, she beat me to the punch. That was exactly my reasoning. It's just a little odd and out of sync because we normally have half a dozen or so for this board. So, it's a little odd. I I'm okay with your suggestion. Okay, Nicole. Yeah. Um, if I'm remembering correctly, if we leave things open and do sort of other additional rounds and things like

[163:00] that, um, I mean, it does we have to do this again with whoever comes back, right? I just looking at everything that's coming up on our agenda this year, um I do feel like if we've got people who are interested in serving on the boards, um it saves us time, it saves staff time, it saves community time, um if we can kind of just move forward. So, um I I will be saying no to keeping it open. Um but, you know, understand if if a majority want to go a different way. Yeah. And just to clarify, we're we know that we're going to be keeping some open regardless. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. We will be keeping some open regardless because there are some that had no applicants at all. Right. So, and if you're if you're in the public following along, we did not address the cannabis licensing advisory board, which we need five candidates and we don't have enough. So, yep. Tisha, my preference is that we just vote for everybody and if you don't get the five, then you're not in. Instead of trying to

[164:02] add another vote, we could just vote on the Barry dude. Or if I'm sorry, I don't mean to be flippant. I'm more so saying, are there any recommendations for Barry? If there's not, then that's then that's that would be it. I don't I I just don't feel like we need to add another layer of procedure when if he if they don't get a nomination then right it's just that when we talked about this procedure at the beginning and Teresa recommended that we have a separate vote on whether to reopen did I understand that correctly Teresa I just think it's an unnecessary step you did yeah so I guess the city attorney recommends that that that process so vote just Real quick, part of the reason why I think it would be important is we may get more applicants and Barry may still end up being the most qualified. And so it would be odd if we took a vote now, opened it back up to which he reapplied and then something else occurred. That would just be an awkward That's not what I was saying. So

[165:00] the process would be awkward. That wasn't what I was saying. Um I was saying that if no one nominates the candidates that are on the slate, then by default it remains open. And I don't feel like another procedure to reinforce that is necessary. But again, I don't want to nickel and dime. So, let's just keep going. Okay. Thank you. Um, so we have a proposal to hold this board open. All in favor, raise your hand. I got five. Okay. So, we'll hold this open for additional recruitment. I appreciate uh Barry for applying and it will be considered as part of the next round. All right. All right. Thank you. Next, we'll review the landmarks board. We have one seat available there. That is seat five. And it is to appoint a member to a five-year term through March 2030. And this seat, the appointee must be an architectural or planning professional. We have one applicant and

[166:01] that is Michael Ray. Okay, we got uh seat number five, a five-year term. Uh nominations. Is that right? Just to make I have should be HRC. Sorry, we just did HRC. What? What's that, Ryan? I thought there were four applicants for landmarks. That must be Oh, so not all of them are architecture planning professionals and so therefore we're not qualified. And this is what Lauren was speaking to earlier that the subcommittee is going to look at. Okay. So, nominations uh for this ter I nominate Michael Ray because he was awesome. Thanks for that. Uh, all those in favor of Michael Ray, raise your hand. That's nine. So, Michael Ray is appointed to seat number five. All right. Thank you. Next, we have our open space board of trustees. We have one seat available on that board and it is to appoint a member for a 5-year term

[167:00] through March 2030. We have two, four, six, nine applicants. We'll start with Paul Alabach, Burl Almsbury, Katherine Crane, who also applied to the parks and reccks advisory board. Barry French who also applied to the human relations commission. Robert Kaplan, he applied also to the parks and recck advisory board. Tina Mu who applied to the EAB, David Olsamp who applied to the parks to the planning board and Kristen Ruez and Harmon Zuckerman who was a current member who has been serving since 2023. Great. Uh nominations. I got Matt up here. I nominate Harmon Zuckerman. Other nominations? Lauren? I nominate Kristen Ruiz Ruiz. Any others? Terra, I nominate Robert Kaplan.

[168:04] All right. Yes. Nicole, I nominate Paul Alabc. All right. I don't see any other hands raised. So, uh, Matt, you want to start? Yeah, I'll speak to Harmon. For one, he is um just finishing off um a board another board member's term and so he's only had just a short period and we we tend to let someone get a full term if they're just finishing a short bit of someone else's term. Um Harman has been exemplary um on Open Space Board of Trustees and I think his his professional background of being a land use attorney has been especially important with some of the um uh work that OSBT has been doing with regards to CU South and other uh properties. And so I think um his his skill set is not only needed but is going to continue to be needed um for quite some time on open space board of trustees. Um I was really down on to Kristen for her work in ecological research um and

[169:03] sort of the background in management and working in um natural and remote environments. Great chair. Well, Rob is a recently retired firefighter and we could sure use one of those and he's great. So, that was a long speech for you tonight. You're cool. Um and uh Paul I think has u a lot of service experience um in neighboring communities and uh just really appreciated his um expertise in uh forestry and and his work there kind of translating science into um policy and and the prior things that he's done. Um plus I I met him at the pollinator festival um and just seeing him out in community doing some of the education was really fun too. Very good. Ta I just wanted to speak up to um something else that Kristen Ruiz brings to the table that no one else does that

[170:01] is needed on our on our open space and that is experience with extension and our agricultural um footprint which is currently a stepchild um of our of our components and is is in great need for more focus area. So that's another reason why I support the nomination of of Miss uh Ruiz. Thank you. All right. So, I believe we're in alphabetical order at this point. So, all in favor of Paul Alabach, raise your hand. I got one. Uh, and we do have great applicants here to be clear. Great applicants. This is rough. Um, Robert Kaplan, I got two. Kirsten Ruiz, I got three. Harmon Zuckerman, I got three. So I think Paul uh drops out and so now we'll go reverse alphabetical. Harmon Zuckerman three, Kirsten

[171:02] Ree four, Robert Kaplan two. All right, so Robert Kaplan drops off now. Final round. Uh we'll start with Kirsten Ruiz. Got four. Harman Zuckermanman got five. All right, Harmon Zuckermanman gets seat number five for the five-year term. All right, thank you. Next, we have a bit of a quandry with the parks and wreck advisory board. We have five seats available for appointment. Seat number one is to appoint a member to an unexpired one-year term through March 26. Seat two is to appoint a member to a unexpired two-year term through March 27. And seat number four is also appointing a member to an unexpired

[172:00] three-year term through March of 28. Seat six and seat seven are to appoint members to a 5-year term through March 3rd, 2030. We have several applicants. We'll start with Phil Barber, Ginger Barnes, who applied also again to the BLA and the HAB, Grant Buggerner, Ivonne Castillo, Kathn Crane, who also applied to the Open Space Board of Trustees, Carolyn Gekcker, Robert Kaplan, Morgan Lamile, Zachary Morca, Roz Mariano, Eric Rafini, who is currently serving on the board since 2024, Shelley Russell, Benjamin Satloff, Michael Shiner, and Kira Seagull. All right, this is going to be a marathon here, folks. So, we got five

[173:01] seats to fill. Fortunately, we have many very well-qualified applicants. So, we will start with uh seat number six, the five-year term. And so I will take nominations. Nicole, I wanted to nominate Benjamin Satloff. I'd like to nominate Mike Shriner. Mike Shriner. Okay. Anybody else? All right. We got Oh, yep. Lauren. I'd like to nominate Yavon Castillo. Castillo. Very good. And we're going to have lots more opportunities to nominate. So, uh, Nicole, um, yeah, I again I I think having more um younger folks involved um people who are students, he's actually finishing up his degree um this year. So, um that as well as just his his work um organizing and kind of working in um policy spaces and translating um uh his expertise from school into um

[174:04] policy. I thought uh Mike interviewed the best of all the candidates and these are some terrific candidates. Um and uh I'm glad we're going to be able to send at least five of them uh into the fray. Um but Mike to me was the most organized, substantive uh and um and articulate of our candidates and I think he would make an exceptional uh member of the uh of the board. I'm having a hard time finding my more detailed notes for the second, but I thought Yvon was really great and I'm really excited about her. It's like a terrace style speech. Mayor, point of order. Point of order. Yes. Can you just confirm, are we voting for the longest term now? That's correct. So, we're starting with seat number six, which is one of the two five-year seats that are available tonight. Thank you. Okay, so

[175:00] for seat number six, we are in reverse alphabetical now. So, um, Michael Shriner, all in favor, we got five. And then, so he'll get it, but we'll finish it out. Um, Benjamin Satloff. We got three. And Ion Castillo got one. All right. So, Michael Shriner gets seat number six. Now, we will go to seat number seven, which is also a five-year term. Nominations. Do you want to go again? Yes. I'll nominate uh Benjamin Salaf once more. Any others? No. Yes. I actually have something to say. I wrote it down. Good for me. Okay. But nominate I n I'm I know that. I I mean I wrote it down. You'll see. I nominate Kira Seagull because she is a professional. She's analytic. She has strategic skills. And I love the fact

[176:01] that she said she was customer centric and I think I'm excited to see her transfer her skills to the government sector. Also, she's very empathic or is the word empathetic? Not sure. And she fits our extreme need for the young people demographic. Yay, Kira. Okay. Did you want to add something about I did want to add one more thing that I forgot to mention before. um that Benjamin mentioned being just an avid user of the parks and uh being a little unusual in that regard um where a lot of people are out on the trails and um he's in the parks. So I thought he also had a really um interesting idea about providing equipment and stuff like that to facilitate people's use. No, no arms races here. Okay, we got two nominations. Um so we'll go in alphabetical order this time. This these are tough votes. Um, Benjamin Satloff, we got three. Uh, four. Uh,

[177:00] Kira Seagull. That's five. So, goes to goes to Kira. All right. So, now we will go to seat number four, which is a three-year term. And nominations. Nicole, I have no idea what you're gonna say. So unexpected. Gonna nominate Benjamin Satloaf. Okay. Tina gonna nominate Rob Kaplan. Okay. I'm gonna nominate uh Morgan Lomale. Okay. You've spoken already. You're good. Yeah. Tina. Okay. So, I'm nominating Rob Kaplan um in part because of his incredible involvement through the wildfire and I think that does pertain to how we manage our civic spaces and trail system and he can bring in that perspective uh to the work. So, I think he'd be a great addition to this board. Um, so Morgan, I think this board is uh

[178:01] going to be very short on board experience with five new people joining in. Um, and Morgan having previously a while back served on environmental advisory board, I think would be a a big boost to to this board having already had some board experience. Um, and I think that that's going to be quite a premium for this, um, as they get get up to speed. Um, you know, mom, kids in elementary school, a heavy user of our parks and rec system, and so I think she'd be a great contributor to this board. Excellent. All right, we're in reverse order now. So, um, Benjamin Satloff, we got five. Finish it out. Uh, Morgan Lamelly got one. And Robert Kaplan got three. Okay. So, Benjamin gets the seat number four. So, now we move to seat number two, the two-year term. Uh, nominations. Tina. Uh, again, nominating Rob Kaplan.

[179:02] I'm going to nominate Morgan Lamali. All right. I'm gonna nominate Yvon. Okay. Uh, all of these people have been spoken to already. We're good. All right. We are in alphabetical now. So, we will start with Ivon Castillo. All in favor? Uh, Ivon Castillo is the person on the table right now. We got four. Uh, Robert Kaplan, we got three. Morgan Lamelli, we got one. Uh, so Morgan drops off. We'll go back reverse now. We got Robert Kaplan. We got three. And Ivon Castillo. Wait, was there a fourth? Sorry. Can Okay, four. Four for Robert Kaplan. Ivon Castillo. Five. So Avon gets seat number two. All right. We're almost done here. Seat number one, the one-year term. Nominations, please.

[180:01] Mr. Kaplan. Okay. Any other nominations? All right. Okay, Lauren. Um, Carolyn Gekcker, uh, I appreciated, um, their emphasis on sort of taking in things from a lot of different perspectives, um, and sympathizing it into the best for all parties. And I think that that's an important thing for us to have on our parks and record board. Good. All right, reverse alphabetical. Okay, it's getting late. I'm getting tired, folks. All right, Carolyn Gekcker, we got four. Robert Kaplan, we got five. So, Robert gets seat number one. All right. Uh, thanks for getting

[181:00] through that. That was complicated, but you did a fabulous job. Next, we'll go through the planning board appointments. We have seat number seven, which is to appoint a member for a five-year term through March 2030. We have Joe Foley, Ben Holland, Dave Oscamp, who also applied to the Open Space Board of Trustees, and Mason Roberts, who is a current member and has been serving since 2024, Caleb Schmidt, and Carlos Villaina. Okay. Um, so we have seat number seven, which is a five-year term. Nominations, Nicole, it's just plain. I'll just do it. Um, I wanted to nominate uh Mason Roberts. Other nominations? Lauren, I just want to do a shout out for Ben Holland. um their his application was

[182:02] really amazing and um I hope that they will reapply next year. It's really a shame that we can only appoint one person. There were other great applicants too, but yeah. Mayor, just quick call. I was going to say the same thing. So, I just want to make that clear. Yeah, Ben is super strong and um just want to endorse that. Thank you. Yeah. Um, and I want to let Nicole speak to her nomination, but also in this good spirit of of uh I want to uh lift up her nan as well. Um, again, just I feel so strongly that we need stronger chops on environment on our planning board specifically. Um, and I'm hopeful that they will reapply, but I support the nomination of Mason and I look forward to the rationale that Nicole will provide. All right, you got to sell it here, Nicole. Thanks, guys. Um, you know, Mason is someone, this is his third time applying for a five-year term and or applying for this board, right? And and he's served on this this board this last

[183:01] year. Um, I think there's so much knowledge to be picked up and gained. Um, and he was willing to do that for a year. Uh, and he's picked up a lot of knowledge and he's sort of now, you know, off and running. Um, and I think that just kind of maintaining uh maintaining that there um is a helpful thing. So, I'm excited to uh to nominate him for a five-year term um and potentially see that go through. Very good. All those in favor of Mason Roberts. That's unanimous. All right. Mason gets seat number seven. All right. Thank you. Next, we will go over the Transportation Advisory Board nominations and seats. Seat number four is to appoint a member to the unexpired four-year term through March 2029. And seat five is to appoint a member for a 5-year term through March 2030. We have several applicants here as well. We'll start with Norman Anderson, Andrew

[184:00] Brandt, Edwin Clark, Silva, Lancing Crane, Lillian Hoods, Aston Norton, Michael Dim, Daima, Rabia Casim, JP Stevens, Hernand Valinola, and Samantha White. Thanks for that. Let's start with seat number five for the five-year term. Nominations. I saw Ryan over here. Like to nominate Michael Adessma. Other nominations. Yes, Mark. I'd like to nominate Hernandoa. Any others? Not seeing any. So speak to it. When Michael um a US EPA attorney applied for TAB last time, it was excruciating not to not to uh appoint him then. Um, since then he's come to every um, uh, transportation safe streets event that I think I have been at. Um, talking to community members and

[185:02] um, being an incredible advocate and he's got a ton of hobby projects um, to just try to make our city better. Mostly he's doing very quietly and we'd be um, we'd be lucky to have him. You speak Mike. There's not much more to say. We've already talked about Hernandan and uh his qualities and how good he is. And uh I think he would do the same job here as he would have done on any of the other boards had we selected him. And uh I think he's a quality individual, extremely bright uh and will serve us well if he gets one of these two seats. Very good. All right. Alphabetical reverse. Reverse. Dang it. I thought I was keeping track. Um so we're going to start with Eron Veva. All those in favor. We got one. Uh Michael Desma. That's eight. So seat number five goes to Michael. So let's go to um seat

[186:00] number four, which is a four-year term. Nominations. Uh guess who? Tina. Uh Norman Anderson. Norman Anderson. I'd like to nominate Aston Horton. Any others? Well, like I was saying before, I generally stay out of the nominations uh since I'm facilitating the meeting, but I did want to get Lillian Hoods into the mix. So, I'll nominate Lillian. All right. You've already spoken. So, um Norman. Yeah. Um, and so I just when I'm thinking about the transportation advisory board and the work they do, which is often reflecting on on a project and how people move around it, um, and I know the only qualification or requirement we have is a gender balance with our boards, which you know I disagree with. Um, I do think as our population increasingly becomes

[187:00] qualifying as senior citizens, their transportation needs are unique and very specific to who they are. And I think having um so I hate to bring up someone's age in this way, but I would like to see someone on tab who can help look at projects from the vantage point of someone who is growing growing older and who has needs that someone who is younger may not notice or point out. So that's why I'm nominating Norma Anderson. Great. Right. This pool has a um a lot of different highly qualified people in different ways. So, I go again to what are the the most important problems that we are trying to solve right now. Um, our transit um system, we're going to do an update with the county this year. We're going to start the process of an update. We have a number of important issues to try to work through through our transit system that we have um that is I would say not as far along as many of the other transportation issues. Um Aston is a technical re regional

[188:01] transportation person who's done modeling and I think he like won an award um for his work in this space. So I think just from a practical standpoint um he will help us with a a real problem that we have. Thanks. I need to speak to mine but can I speak to uh let me do speak to the last nomination here of Lillian Hoods. I nominated Lillian. Uh she is a young family which I think are are people who have unique transportation uh needs in in our city. Um and also appreciated her knowledge about transit and her uh devotion to taking transit where possible and just thought she had an excellent way of thinking about uh transportation in our city that the board could benefit from. So uh I'll call on you Tara for any other comments. I did really like Lillian, but I also like Hernand because not only did is he everything we all said he was, but he also is has kids, he is family, he um I think it will be good to have

[189:01] um different um demographics. What is the word you all are using tonight that works? And so I think he it would be a great candidate for um transportation. We got great choices here. All right. Alphabetical order. Uh all in favor of Norman Anderson, we got one. Lillian Hoods, we got one. Aston Horton, we got one, two, three. And Arnon Bill Noea, we got four. Okay. So we got two with one. So we drop them both. Yeah. So now going in reverse alphabetical order. Um yeah. Okay. Okay. That's five. That's five. Uh but uh Aston Horton.

[190:01] Okay. That was three. And we have somebody has abstained. Okay. So uh Ernan gets seat number four. Awesome. her and uh thanks to everybody else who applied. All right, next we'll move on to the University Hill Commercial Area Management Commission. We have one seat available here for appointment and that is seat five to appoint a member to a 5-year term through March 2030. And we have one applicant that is Dne Anderson. Okay, so we got seat number five, a five-year term, one applicant. Uh, any nominations? Yes, Lauren. Um, I appreciated this applicant and their um interest in balancing um sort of the changes in what it takes to be a college town and people who are not college students living in the area.

[191:02] Great. All those in favor of Dane Anderson. That's unanimous. Dane gets seat number five. All right. Almost there, folks. Yes, sir. Last board to review on this first round is our water resources advisory board. We have two seats open on this board. Seat number three is to appoint a member to an unexpired three-year term through March 2028. And seat five is to appoint a member to a 5-year term through March 2030. We have two applicants. We have Katherine Halama and Joel Smith. Right. Let's start with seat number five, the five-year term. Uh nominations. Chair. I nominate Joel Smith. Good. Any others? Yes, Nicole. I nominate Katherine Halema. Speak to it. He had an excellent interview and he's a professional and he's a great person. Uh

[192:02] very good. And um I I thought uh Katherine's background in the asakas and just thinking about how to address water issues in really dry places was really interesting and um unique and uh again just always appreciate um when CU students, undergrads or graduate students are willing to get involved and and serve in the city. Excellent. Lauren, I'm really excited that we get to appoint both of them because they were both so extremely qualified and I'm glad that they both applied. I agree with that statement. Which order are we in? Alphabetical. All right. All those in favor of Katherine Halama. We got four. Joel Smith. Five. So that's uh Joel Smith for seat number five, the five-year term. Now seat number three, uh the three-year term. Would somebody like to make a nomination? Nicole. I'm gonna nominate Katherine. Shocking. All right. Um, all those in favor of

[193:02] Katherine. Okay, that's unanimous. Well, we would be done, but um since we selected Arnan for transportation, we get to go back to EAB. Yes, sir. And we would need to look at the applicants to fill his seat, which is seat number one. And this is a one-year term. Yes. And so, um, Adam Winston was appointed to the five-year term. And so, now we can consider all the rest of the candidates for the one-year term. Do we have procedural questions? Um, or nomination. Okay, let's go to nominations. I'm gonna nominate Tina Mu. All right. Any other nominations? Ryan like to nominate Daniel Howard. Any others? Nicole. Like to nominate

[194:00] Hannah Olman. Okay. Very good. Anybody else? Okay. Um, we've spoken about all these individuals before, so I don't know that we need to add in more words. They're all very capable individuals. What's our order? I got to check now. I thought you had It's not just me. We're going reverse. Reverse. Okay. Uh Hannah Oldman, we got five. Tina Mu, that's four. All right. Daniel Howard, there's nobody left. So, uh Hannah Olman gets seat number one, I believe it was. Yes, sir. All right. Well, that brings us to the end of our selection process. So, now we just need some motion language. And I see John is on it. All right. We wanted to see if staff had any questions, but we also wanted to

[195:00] give an extended thank you to council for going through the process and reviewing all the interviews. And we wanted to thank our comms and engagement partners Diananna and Damian for all their help on the website and the interviews and getting those set up and also our boards and commission staff liaison and secretaries. They were extremely critical in this year's recruitment. All right, if staff has no more questions, John, the motion language should be the next slide. Yes. And and as we go to John, we also I think need to call John out in particular as well for the extraordinary work on getting all this organized. I thought I know you know so I'm glad council brought that up. Yeah. Is and all those people that you thanked is an enormous effort to get all this done. So just so grateful to everybody who who made it happen. Ta you had your hand up. I do. How about how about we get a motion on the table and then we can we can speak to the motion on the table. Happy to put a motion to approve the 2025 boards and

[196:00] commissions appointments as noted. Second. All right, we got a motion to second. Ty, would you like to speak to your motion? Um, well, thank you very much. This is really robust. I don't want to I didn't want to steal. Is that what people do with this thing? I wanted to just make my comments. So, uh, but again, I just want to um thank even this is my second year doing um this process and it and you know, there was improvements in the process and I'm just really grateful for that. um really strong applications. I was also really grateful and really strong administration of the process. Um and yeah, so that's why I make that any co-signers on that. I don't want to steal if you had something especially from our boards and commissions people would love to um share the air. Yeah. Did you have your hand raised? I do have a quick question. All the people that said they wanted us to do stuff, I didn't write that down. So, does anybody know what that list is? Wait, you know, the boards and commissions subcommittee. Oh, is

[197:01] somebody tracking the recommendations and things that you can go back and listen to the whole thing. Great. Okay. Well, I'm just going to say that I wouldn't mind an email reminding me what it is you would like us to accomplish. What do you think, Lauren? Do you agree? I agree. I also feel like we should break our rules and like maybe do like a round of like applause for all the staff effort that goes into doing this. And I do have one more thing to say, Erin, and that is I don't know if anybody's listening, but the interviews, which I actually listened to a lot of them twice, believe it, were so incredible. We had so many great applicants and I'm hoping that you all um do we have any openings that they can apply for? Either apply for some of the openings that we have still or please come back next year. Yeah. What's that? Boulder Junction. Yeah. Boulder Junction and and Cannabis Licensing Advisory

[198:01] Board. Human Relations. I think there are a couple others. Yes. Yeah. I do have a have a question for council. you elected to keep the human relations commission's boards open or extend that recruitment by vote. Do you have a time period in which you want us to open that up or are we going to leave that up to the boards and commission subcommittee? I can leave it up to you all. I'm good with that. We'll we'll look to the subcommittee for that. All right. Thank you very much. All right. We got a motion in a second. Does anybody else have anything to say? Okay. Microphone. Microphone. Is this a point where we can address um comments from open comment? Not quite. We'll get there in a minute. Yep. Just so it makes the list for our uh highly capable representatives on boards and commissions. Um it's been discussed in the past, but I would be remiss not to mention again, I'd love for us to look at how we trim down some

[199:00] of our boards and commissions. I think we're a little little heavy and a little uh we're we're a little um got a little extra. So if there's ways to either get rid of some that are really not serving a deep function or consolidate others in to each other, I think we could do ourselves a cumulative benefit by trimming it down a little bit. So I'd love to see some recommendations on how and which ones we do that with. I think Tara requested an email. I actually would request a survey. That would be my We can resend an assessment that was done in 2023 and we can pick that up again. Thank you. Okay. So, we got a motion to uh confirm the appointments. Should we do a roll call, Helicia? Roll call. Yes, sir. Thank you. We'll start the roll call for the 2023 boards and commission appointments as noted with Council Member Winer. Yes. Adams, yes. Benjamin, yes. Mayor Brockett, yes. Council member Folks,

[200:00] yes. I'm sorry, Mayor Pro Tim Faulk. Council member Marquis, yes. Shuhard, yes. Spear, yes. And Wallik, yes. The boards and commission appointments are hereby approved unanimously. And thank you again, John, for all the work. Absolutely. And just another huge thank you to everyone who took the time to apply. We really appreciate your uh devotion to our community and willingness to serve. Um and uh really looking forward to the service of the new board members and also to those who were not selected. Please strongly consider applying again next year in the future because there were so many qualified applicants that we weren't able to select tonight. So, thanks again to everyone who participated in the process. That brings us to the end of our regular agenda. So, now if you did want to address um anything else, Mark, this would be an opportunity. Thank you. And and um I I beg your indulgence for a couple of minutes in advance. Um, uh, I'm I'm addressing the people who

[201:00] were here tonight and and disrupting the meeting. For those of you who call Tara and myself, both of us Jewish, Nazis, does nothing more than disgrace yourselves, you clearly do not understand history and are woefully ignorant about Nazis and Nazism. Your basic complaint is that we will not do what you demand we do with respect to events in the Middle East. We've discussed and debated this. We have voted upon it. It's perfectly reasonable for you to dispute our decision. It is reasonable for you to come here and advocate for us to change it. What is not reasonable and where your conduct is closer to that of petulent children than to adults who disagree with us is to curse at us, insult us, and disrupt our meetings. Lastly, if you think that calling us the most offensive names that it is possible to call a person of the Jewish faith will deter either Tara or myself, then

[202:00] you don't know Tara and you sure as hell don't know me. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Any other Yes, Ryan. And then Taisha, um, separate topic. Uh we had a member of the Boulder Housing Advisory Board visit us. Um Stephen Hennessy and what Stephen said was music to my ears, which is that the board plans they have told us they plan to come see us quarterly with um with a correspondence, some kind of an update. And I personally have been um scratching my head over the over the last year to think about how can we as a as a council um just do work to better synchronize what we're doing with boards. And it's it's never come to the level of this is the top priority for us to come together in a council meeting and figure out. So it hasn't happened. Um, but I really like the idea, the initiative of of the board um of housing to say they're just

[203:01] going to come to us uh and speak to us quarterly. And I would um remind others that that is that opportunity is available to other boards and also the public. And so this is just me, Ryan, speaking. I'm not representing the whole council, but um just to say that I'm was glad to hear that initiative. But I think it was a really creative way to create more interaction with us and uh look forward to it. Thanks for that, Ryan. Yeah, Tara, 100% I agree with you. It's not just Ryan, it's Ryan and Tara. Okay, point taken Tisha. Uh I I want to echo the boards and commission's conversations just in general and just the need for us to revisit that wholesale. Um I appreciate the efforts of staff. However, I'm concerned with the pace and would love to get to figure out how to strategize um to prioritize some of those components so that we can make sure that these boards and commissions are going to be meaningful for all parties

[204:00] involved. Um I also wanted to thank those who participated in the council chat around food security. Um and just wanted to share I look forward to our fellow council members receiving information about the the conversations that we had. Um, but there were a couple of things that I just wanted to bring up from that conversation, particularly around charity versus justice. And I, it was a theme that came up several times and moving away from, um, just the the concept of of, you know, food being something that is charity and not right. And so, um, I really appreciated that. And I also, uh, thought it was interesting that they brought up transportation as another barrier, um, to to food access in our community. And again, people think city of Boulder, what do you mean people, you know, have uh transportation issues to access food, and that is something that is absolutely happening in our community. So, I just really appreciated that time and opportunity, and I look forward to the

[205:00] meeting notes. So, I just wanted to lift that up. And then lastly, um in response to um the comments, obviously, I don't support name calling of any kind. Um, however, I do want to just remind folks that, you know, public comment is for anything that uh we have the authority to um take action on, and you're you're absolutely right. If we decide not to do that, community has every right to come and challenge us on that again and again and again. Um, we do have the authority to do a ceasefire. We do have the authority to limit investments on national defense for um for uh weapons for national defense and we have chosen not to do that and there are consequences for that. I also just want to lift up everybody loves to bring up Martin Luther King but this is what social uh uh civil civil disobedience looks like. Um so please don't put his name in your mouth if you don't understand that this is what it looks like when people don't feel heard and don't feel represented. I know I've

[206:00] passed my time. Thank you. Okay. Thanks, Tahesa. Um, yes, Tina. Yeah, I just wanted to uh thank you for all your comments and um I just wanted to appreciate staff tonight for the way that they handled tonight's disruption. Um, you could see just what the community doesn't understand is we go back into the kitchen and staff is out dealing with each person personally when they're at this moment of a lot of passion and a lot of emotion and so are the security people who are here. And I appreciate each one of you for the way you're you're interacting with our public in a way that's really providing my safety, providing the safety of the people who come here for open comment and who are trying to maintain open comment. So each of you was in a difficult position tonight and I appreciate the way you each stood up for us and for me personally. Thank you. That that was very well said, Tina, and I'll I will certainly echo those comments. Um I think that the disruptions are are very unfortunate. I respect everyone's ability to make their

[207:01] opinions heard. Um but the the screaming, the the yelling, the name calling, uh the disruptive behavior is uh there's no um good reason for that and prevents us from getting the work of the busy uh the work of the city done or at least slows it way way down. So echo your um thanks to city staff for doing such an able job in managing this extremely difficult problem. Uh thank you so much. just uh appreciate um those comments and certainly uh thanks to staff who do a tremendous job uh at all levels and those that are here and those that are not here who have been helping not just here but downstairs as well. Um just a quick note on boards and commissions. Excited that you're excited to pick that up again. Uh we will not just send out that initial assessment, but it actually is scheduled to come before you. Uh I believe it's May 1st and so we'll be having that conversation very soon. Good to hear. All right. Well, that brings us to the very end. So, thanks everybody for productive meeting and I will uh close 23 p.m. Take care and

[208:01] have a good night.