March 31, 2020 — City Council Special Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] [Music] and unmuting our video or is that still on us I think it's still on us okay so Rachel the moderator will be when and if we start doing public participation and open comment the moderator is able to mute the people that call in for those matters but cannot moderate can't mute you guys got it I'm going to try and keep my video on mute most of the time then [Music] thanks

[1:05] so juny are you on not quite ready Chris thank you so juny is here so hi hi we're missing Adam so I'm gonna go ahead and get started because we have a few orders of business that I think we can actually get to without him so I guess first Lynette do you want to call the role council member rocket present friend here Joseph Nagel stick wallik pres Weaver here Yates here young pres mayor we have a quorum very good okay the first thing I would like to to do is let mirbi make a

[2:01] short announcement mirbi you want to go ahead yeah thanks man' so um for everyone anyone who knew Heidi Leatherwood who used to be our assistant city clerk uh I spoke with her today and I just wanted to let you all know that she um found out that she has stage two breast cancer and so she's doing chemo and she's doing really well um she sent me a picture of herself without her hair and she's absolutely adorable uh but she's just trying to navigate the cancer so I'm actually going to be sending her a care package um of crystals cuz that's what we do for our business uh that have some good you know cancer helping properties and whatnot so if anyone's interested in signing on to the card and whatnot do just message me privately and I'll definitely include you so thank you may by yeah okay very good um so I think the next order of business is to um we'll do this in a moment um the the other announcement is that we

[3:01] are actively working to provide for more remote public participation beginning on April 7th more information will be forthcoming in the weeks ahead on how individuals can sign up for both open comment and public hearing comment this meeting and the others will be televised on Boulder Channel 8 as well as live streamed on Boulder Channel 8.com wait they're about to do a so the next item uh is to approve the amended agenda um um can I have a motion so moved any discussion oh is there second I'm sorry second second any discussion okay all in favor if there's any opposed speak up now okay hearing none um the new agenda is approved and so then I think that moves us into the uh board and commission appointments so let me get here and so I

[4:02] was going to make a suggestion to us as far as how we do this I think the most important boards for us to make absolutely sure that we have done our RAB open space and planning so in the presentation that just came up is what order Chris do we have for board and commission any order set my understanding is you can take it in any order you like awesome so I'm going to suggest that we start with RAB if we can do that so if people want to pull up their notes on RAB I think they're going to have the most to say about and the reason I picked those three boards is because they are going to be speaking um and having input into see you South and so I think it's just really important that we make sure that they get pointed and so meby has her hand hand raised I'm just tracking the

[5:01] um chat here okay and Adam it sounds like you've joined us Adam swti can you hear me yes I'm here now okay very good so we are going to do the RAB appointments now um would anyone like to make a nomination we have um one resident to a five-year term nominations are open anyone Mary yes um I would like to nominate gunar Paulson um I was impressed with his um responses to the questions that we asked um I think um one of the things that I really liked about his response is his grasp of um where we are in terms

[6:00] of our negotiations with um CU on um CU South um and I think he um he really that so I was impressed with him and so I would um support him on this great any other nominations for R Sam Mark wall y Mark um I was also I I I lik gunar Paulson uh very much I also liked John bergren I thought he had a a very good background in in the issues that RAB is going to face um he had good priorities okay thank you Mark and then I have Bob Yates and then Aon Brocket uh Mark to the punch I was also gonna nominate John bergren I thought um he in addition to the fact that he's a water expert especially on efficiency he's an

[7:00] impressive impressive interviewee and I thought he took a very balanced approach and he will um Council so I agree with with Mark's nomination great Aaron your next agreed with Mark and Bob okay very good so um Lynette how are we going to do this I'm going to flip a coin and you're going to have to trust me on whether it's heads or tails from whether start at the top or bottom so hold on it's Tails so we'll start um with gunar Paulson okay so all in favor of gunar Paulson please text that you please text Gunner I know that's a bit of a pain but I think that's the way we're going to have to do this

[8:01] okay I have Mary for gunner mirabai for gunar Adam for gunner hold it Mary for gunner so I've got two mirror Buys so Mary for gunner Adam for gunner Mirror by for Gunner and then there will be Sam for gunar so that is four and is there anyone I didn't count for gunar and so I'm going to take it then that there are five for John Berger and John Bon yes so I'm counting three juny is [Music] four I'm waiting for a fifth for John Berger and Mark is John okay very good so John it is I just want to say as we say every year with RAB um we had a a Sur of riches here because there

[9:01] are so many people with so much incredible experience we done with these board RAB interviews and we're like holy cow we can't believe the technical expertise we have in Boulder so thank you all for applying and I'll say this this time and I won't repeat it each time but if you did not get on this year um please reapply next year because um we we look kindly on people who show up more than once for this okay so after that I would like to do open space we'll wait until the presentation catches up okay there's our list uh Bob Yates has a nomination I'd like to nominate Matt Benjamin I'll speak to us kind of just see in a bit great and Mirai has a

[10:01] nomination I would like to nominate Caroline Miller great uh anyone else would like to make a nomination okay very good and I just want to make a comment to staff this is about the most organized um board and commission slideshow we've ever had this tells us everything on Cross tabs and stuff so great okay so this is for a fiveyear term Bob you made the ntion would you like to speak sure um I think most people on Council know Matt he's been around for a while he's served on various ad hoc committees including our election committee um Matt is a scientist which I think is very important he actually used to run the um the planetarium at Fisk on CU campus and I think um on um the open space board it's important to have at least a handful of scientists because many of our decisions are science-based and around biology um you know I was impressed by Matt's interview comment

[11:02] that he wants to engage in what he referred to as evidencebased stewardship stewardship of course is what open space is all about but he wants to make his decisions based upon science and evidence um and um I think Matt's a clear thinker and a clear speaker and uh it's a substantial loss to us to lose um Tom Ison who's been on on the open space board for five years and been his chair and I think we all um really appreciate uh Tom's um uh stewardship leadership across the board in a very balanced person and I can't think of a better person we've got some great candidates but I can't think of a better person among our candidates to fill Tom's very very big shoes than than than Matt Benjamin okay very good um and then next let's have mirb speak to um Caroline and then what we'll do is have people um just text that they want to um speak after that so we the the way this normally goes is we have nominations and

[12:01] then uh we close nominations we effectively did that we speak to each the person who nominated speaks to each candidate and then we just raise hands and go around um Rachel has a question if we have particular concerns about candidate as opposed to a nomination when would we say that you would just spay it say it when um you speak about um the candidates so uh mirbi take it away on Caroline actually Sam I just texted you um I wasn't at interview and I forgot we were speaking to them but you you and Mary were at there so if one of you would like to speak to her more I just know that I think it'd be great to have a another woman on the board who seems like she has a strong um independent mind who's a little bit newer to our community and may have some interesting thoughts and perspectives that others who have been in the community a long time may not have also being a single mother she may have some good input for recreation for children and how to integrate uh education on the childhood side so if you guys want to add anything

[13:01] I'd be more than happy to open the floor great and then Rachel you had ask a question which I repeated would you like to speak yeah um so I just wanted to um express some concern I met with uh Caroline and thought she was um a seemed like she would be very good for a board and I was impressed with her but she had asked me about CU South and her understanding was that it was a um an issue of Recreation versus conservation and I think right now we really need somebody and you said we're doing these three boards because CU South is at such a critical juncture I think we need somebody who can hit the ground running on that project so I would um think she might uh be better to apply next year thanks Mary Mary young sorry I had not unmuted my Mike um

[14:00] so I met with Caroline and I was very impressed with the amount of effort she put into simply applying and to the interview um she came to um our meeting with um the charter with the open space master plan um she had spoken to community members and staff members to um understand um what the open space board does um I I I also was very impressed with her application um especially the way she I think she would make de decisions um she is not affiliated with any kind of a [Music] um Camp if you will um totally nonpartisan um I also think that this Board needs gender balance um and I

[15:02] think Carolyn would be a great choice um and I think that she would um to address Rachel's concern she would come up to speed on her understanding there and um you know I just just as um juny has proven to be such an amazing council member I think that um Caroline having been here for about the same amount of time would prove to be an amazing open space um a trustee thank you Mary so I have Aaron Brocket next and then juny Joseph after that thanks Sam um well I just wanted to uh add to what Bob said about Matt Benjamin that I did think that he had a show demonstrated a really deep knowledge of the issues that the open space board faces um and had I thought very sensible opinions on those issues

[16:00] so I thought there was a a depth of knowledge and and a and a sharp perspective um in addition to those things that Bob raised about him so I'll be supporting Matt I think he'd be a fantastic addition of the board JY yes thank you and I just wanted to thank Mary for her kind words and I wanted to ask a question I appreciate um what Marb mentioned about the gender balance and I think again when we think of diversity we're thinking a word that I I knew but I kind of learned recently which is binary so it's having both gender represented so I wanted to know maybe from one of you whoever knows what's the makeup of the board how many men how many women and then I have a question for Rachel because that's very concerning to me although I do want gender balance um I wonder because she mentioned something about conservation because to me open space you know it's it's a little bit of both right we want

[17:01] conservation preservation and also you know allow people to have the opportunity to enjoy open space without damaging the ecological system so I wanted to know a little bit more by what Rachel meant um is she someone who seems to be just so rigid and not thinking about it but will she be someone who will although she may have certain views while she consider other views so to me that's what it is because I think sometimes we may you know we have our own perspective about the world but are we willing to listen so juny I'll jump in first and answer the question about the current composition there are four men on the board and one woman Rachel y um thanks for the question juny it was just as applied to CU South so the issue at CU South is not so much conservation versus Recreation um although that is generally a a divide that I would agree applies um and a lens that I think that osbt um members look through but as to

[18:00] see you South it's it's a a much more complicated um issue and it doesn't so much come down to conservation Recreation thanks next I have sorry next I have Adam and then Mark yeah I just wanted to say real quickly that um I really appreciate both of these candidates that we're discussing right now um I might vote one way or the other but I think both of them will serve you know really well and try to do their best as a trustee so um while the vote may go one way or another I really appreciate both candidates a lot and I hope they apply again whichever doesn't make it okay great hang on my teams just went away okay there we go Mark wallik I I have to second what Adam just said I think they're both very strong candidates um uh I spent some time with Matt I think uh he's got a very strong background here but I also think

[19:01] Caroline does as well and in terms of this Recreation versus conservation um uh dichotomy I think she straddles both lines she is a climber so she's an active recreationist on open space um and I think she will understand and appreciate those concerns as well as uh the concerns of of preservation um and I thought she had a pretty strong discussion of the issues so I don't know don't think we're going to go wrong no matter what we do here um I think the uh the issue of diversity does have a role to play uh on this board and and uh uh for that on that basis I would probably lean towards Caroline great and I'll speak up here since there's no one else in the queue um I had a really good um sit down with both Matt and Caroline um I agree that Matt um has some very interesting perspectives and some deep background I also felt like Caroline had done an

[20:01] incredible amount of homework um she understood actually quite a lot about CU South I thought um there were more subtleties that we discussed and that I think she learned some about but I didn't think she had any particular perspective about CU South that I could discern except that we needed to come up with a balance between making sure that we had environmental preservation there and making sure that we did Flood protection so I think on that basis uh because of the gender balance issue and because I think these are two pretty balanced candidates I'm probably going to lean towards Caroline anyone else want to speak before we vote Lynette how do we do this you start at the top with Matt Benjamin very good all in favor of Matt Benjamin please signify with the text we' got Bob Rachel and Aaron anyone

[21:00] else okay um so juny you're voting for Matt is that correct juny if you could just say yes yes okay great thank you um I'm assuming everyone else is going to vote for Caroline because that's four for Matt if anyone doesn't want to vote for Caroline sorry for Caroline who of the five who have not yet voted please speak up okay in that case Caroline Miller is appointed to the open space Board of Trustees okay next if we could te up um planning board that would be great very good okay um this is for uh one resident member for a five-year term um anyone have nominations okay Bob Yates has a nomination I nominate eron

[22:02] Bagnell great anyone else have a nomination yes I would this is Mark i' nominate Lisa Smith very good any other nominations okay hearing none nominations are closed Bob thanks Sam um I make a couple observ first of all we've got some really great um really great candidates in TR and Lisa Smith who marked just nominated so again as with the last board I don't think we can go wrong here um I make a couple observations about um about uh Aaron first of all Ain is an architect and has been for many years and I would observe that we only have one architect on the seven member planning board and that's Brian bow who's actually departing the board and so this is uh Erin I believe among the um the seven or eight candidates is the only one who is an architect and I think it's important to have at least one design professional on the um on the planning board and and

[23:01] so I think I could probably almost stop there and say um why would we not replace an architect with an architect but I will go on because I want to repeat some of the some of the same things that Mary just mentioned about carlyn Miller um I think we do have a slight gender imbalance on the planning board and we could um use a woman um in addition um eron's um just as with Carolyn Miller as Mary just mentioned is a young mom I think that brings interesting perspective to our planning and our long-term um objectives and just as with Carolyn Miller on the on the open space board as far as I can ascertain Aon is not aign she doesn't seem to be active any if there are our kind of Quasi political parties here in Boulder who's a architect who seems to keep her head down and and design good buildings and so for all those reasons I I think that eron's a pretty obvious choice mark would you like to speak certainly um Lisa has a Ms in urban and

[24:00] Regional planning and public administration so I think she certainly has a an appropriate background for the Post uh and she worked for the city of Boulder uh from 2014 to 18 um I thought she gave a a fairly nuanced uh view of the future of growth and density in in Boulder probably a little more accepting of density than I might be that's all right it's a different view um and I thought she had a thoughtful response to the question um and uh uh you know she does support some density increases at Major intersections with with Community input and I think that's important and also seems unaligned with you know the major schisms in in you know the Boulder Community on these issues and I think she will do a good job in considering those kinds of ISS issues and rendering a an objective and dispassionate

[25:03] judgment be my choice great and On The Stack I've got Aaron juny and then Mary uh so Aaron go ahead thanks um well I agree we this is a time where we can't go wrong um I've had the chance to speak with both Aaron and um Lisa before uh and also I want to call it we also had some other strong applicants um as well it was a really great year for planning board I'll mention um uh Le Chen Gargano who was on the County Planning Commission for a number of years and did a good job on that um so I think we're going to do very well I I will um Echo Bob's comments about um eron's professional experience um you when I was on the planning board you know I was there as a lay person and um I you know did not have um a professional expertise with the area of planning architecture and I found having one or two design

[26:00] professionals on on the board was extremely helpful I learned a lot from them and uh they we always got I thought to a better outcome because of the input that they supplied so um I think that's going to be the big fundamental reason why I'll support Aon thank you thank you Mary you're next Mary young sorry I forget to unmute yep um so I want to agree with everyone about how we had some great candidates and I really appreciate that people are coming forward um one of the things that won me over um with Lisa Smith was the answer to the question that I asked and I asked my question with no answer in mind um and my question was what is at the intersection of planning and social justice and her response was like yeah

[27:00] exactly that's it I didn't know what I was looking for but her answer which was systems of power just blew me away and I thought it was right on um that along with the credentials that Mark mentioned earlier um as well as um you know one one thing that I want to just kind of step back um from this and mention is that this is the planning board um and I think that it's important and essential that the planning board weigh in on mass and bulk of buildings but as Aaron stated you know lay people um you know beyond that um aren't um it's not it's not a design board it's the planning board um and we actually do have a design board which is the design Advisory Board um many years ago when it used to be the downtown Advisory Board daab and then then um I forget exactly when but it became

[28:02] the the design Advisory Board to look at buildings um throughout the whole city and we never kind of Step Back From the whole situation to think about how um that has an impact in terms of how we look at our boards holistically um but I think that now that it's the design Advisory board I would just like to bring up the idea that one of the things that we could do is um to have the design Advisory Board appoint um a um ex officio member to the planning board and then send more of the the site reviews over to the design Advisory Board which is made up holy of Architects and who can provide more feedback on the design of buildings than a board that is made up solely of Architects and that is what they do if they look at design so it seems seems to me that um that this is

[29:00] one way that we can address one of the issues that has come up from the design Advisory Board in their letters to us that they say you know they in a nutshell don't see enough action so this would be a way to um really um deploy a board that is just so um willing to make um recommendations on building design and um and have them participate in the planning board as an ex officio so all that is to say that it's the planning board and I think that a planner is more suited to be on the planning board that along with her response to my question just blew me away for Lisa Smith I've got Rachel and then juny can you hear me yes um so I wanted to speak in support of Aaron and also just make a couple of General um comments and observations um first we have been telling people apply again it

[30:00] matters we consider that do it it's it's um a good thing but we don't seem to be uh taking that into account super well so Erin this will be her second application I believe and so if I understand what we're saying to applicants like that should be a little bit of a a feather in her cap and if all other things are equal it would go her way um and also for people like me who haven't been on planning board it is crucial that we have I think the um professional expertise across the board so the fact that we are losing our architect um is is uh pretty critical to me and as I understand it that's a useful perspective and again without that background I think it's it's important that planning board can um funnel the information up through all of the eyes that we need it to go through um and then lastly we did agree to be nonpartisan in our appointments and I'm a little bit worried that we are acting in a partisan way if we go five to four

[31:00] again even if the applicants themselves don't have a a a label next to them if we're lining up in partisan it sort of indicates to me given that we had a lot of applicants and um I I I thought about nominating several um that it would seem that we would have a wider um diversity of who we're backing and that sort of smacks of something that that is partisan to me and that worries me thanks JY thank you um I kind of disagree with the with the comment about the partisanship um but I think that's another discussion that we can have offline but um I just wanted to make a comment for Aaron and although I didn't have the opportunity to meet her I really enjoyed her application and I remember remember I put down in my notes when Mary asked her the question about

[32:02] intersection of planning and social justice she talked about affordability accessibility and she also mentioned transic corridors so I'm thinking as well I think part of it is we want to put people on boards who not just have our values but also have the value of the entire community and you know and our community is about affordability accessibility and also transport so I think it's very important that we put people on board that is that is really representative of the community and I wanted to say as well I I know Lisa personally I know she's a great candidate she's a wonderful person I don't know if I can say that uh she's applied for many things a few maybe three other boards and I would like to nominate her for something else instead of this one because again I think we need that architect and I know that Mary mentioned you know architecture and Design boards are two different things but architecture also take into account

[33:01] planning and design and construction so I think it's very important that we keep that in mind again and to me what really drove me to her is the fact that she talked about affordability accessibility and also the transit Corridor aspect of she took a really a holistic approach so I think really I really like her application and I will be voting for her today even though I've never met her and I don't know her and I do know Lisa person we actually thanks anyone else like to speak okay I'll jump in um we do have two good applicants here um and I think that that there are very very strong Arguments for each of them I'm going to speak to why I'm going to support Lisa one of the things that I'll point out is she served on other boards before um particularly the scientific and cultural facilities District board there was another one that she served served on um she's got a masters in planning so she

[34:00] absolutely understands the trade-offs with land use and when she's looking at a site review I expect her thoughts will go towards the interconnections with the the other properties around and with how the um the project whatever it is will fit into the context it's in because in planning that's kind of what you're you're focusing on is the contextual situation and how the building will serve the community uh I just want to Second what Mary said about her answer to Mary's question she mentioned systems of entrench power and talking about how we can deconstruct those structures of power through land use decision-making right after that she mentioned that a Hu affordable housing is a huge problem in Boulder which we know she talks about um some of our naturally affordable housing as aging and um and then she spoke specific specifically to um preservation which I think is a really important part of how

[35:02] we need to be thinking about where we site projects and what we do with them how we do not displace people when we're in the process of doing that um she did as um Mark wallik pointed out talk about the 22,000 um additional that we could end up with the 22,000 folks that we could end up with with our Zoning for um about 6200 more dwelling units she said doing it rapidly would be bad but we need to look at where we would do it and we need to consider duplex and Triplex and single family dwellings so it seems to me like that certainly is not something that you would hear from from certain uh sections of the community I I feel like she will do a good job of representing the entire spectrum and I really did think that um her answer to Mary talked about bringing an equity lens to the planning process us um in addition to just focusing on affordable

[36:00] housing what were the other um components of equity that she she would consider so I I'm GNA support Lisa and I would offer anyone else who wants to speak this is a chance okay seeing none uh Lanette what do we do here we start with Lisa okay all in favor of Lisa please indicate with the chat Sam I'm gonna say yes I just I'm missing my chat bar for a moment so okay great I've got nearby mark Mary Adam and I'm gonna vote for Lisa so that's five So Lisa Smith will be appointed to the planning board great and thank you all for applying everyone who did and I do also want to call out um lean Gargano as well like Aaron did did I served with her on the 2015 um comp plan uh steering committee

[37:02] and she did a great job and she's done a great job with the county um Bob uh raised his hand to say something yeah I just want to make an observation kind of following up on on Rachel's comment before we voted um while it's interesting um and um it's interesting that the last the first three we tackled all came down to five4 votes um I I don't want people to come away with from from this discussions that this is a deeply divided Council or that we have very deep philosophical uh uh differences I I think I think this has been a very Cil discussion I know will continue to be a Cil discussion there may be a couple of other split votes uh and that's fine and I just think that that that represents a couple things number one we've got some really really great candidates and we could be nominating three or four or five people for these things I think people restrained themselves from that just simply because it makes it a little easier if we we only um pursue two but

[38:02] we certainly can be uh uh complimenting virtually everybody who's applied for these things and the fact that our votes are five4 I think just reflects that that the nine of us represent um lots of different people lots of different interests and Views and policies and considerations in this community and um and I don't want anybody to walk away from these five4 votes and any other split votes we're about to have thinking that this council is deeply divided or that we um have a different vision from each other for the community because I think our Visions are are largely aligned I think it just represents the quality of the candidates well thank thank you Bob I appreciate that and I think that's true and you know it has often been the case in um the boards like this where there there's a lot of decision-making power that um that the votes do not all go unanimously they often have some kind of split whether it's 54 or 63 or 72 so

[39:01] it's quite common actually to um not have unanimity um on these particular boards and many of the other boards in fact so yeah it is not a um it is not an indication of of any kind of animosity or acrimony Mary reminds me that um you know one of the the points that she made and I think is really important is that we do want architectural input into the planning process it doesn't necessarily have to be somebody who sits on the board and so one of the reason that um we would would have an ex officio in the room and not just kick projects to that the design Advisory board but have a design Advisory Board member would be so that we would have that professional expertise input into the board while they're reviewing either a site plan or a concept review so I I think Mary made a very important suggestion for being able to incorporate that kind of

[40:01] expertise into the board and I think we should bookmark that and come back to it later and Bob makes a suggestion that I agree with um that we go to cannabis next if any Oh Aaron would like to add to what I said yeah I just want to support um getting the design Advisory Board involved more that's definitely a positive thing I do want to say though that's the um that the planning board does deal with uh kind of professional issues Beyond just um architectural design so things about how buildings address the street um and uh you know how different uses uh interact with the public realm um I think just want to make the point that you you do you do still get things that are intersect with professional issues um beyond the architectural details very good so Bob's suggestion was that we go to cannabis next um I think one of the the reasoning for that would be that there are many many applicants we're seating a new board and

[41:02] that if we have applicants who have applied to cannabis who have applied to other boards as well so if we end up um putting them on cannabis they may come off of other potential boards so let me just add to that that in in the we have three categories that we have to fill uh marijuana industry which we have a lot of candidates for um health and education which we have a a very small number for and Comm at large which we have a very small number for and as as Sam said um I think um because we have a limited number for health and for community at large um that is probably if some of those folks are appointed here that probably takes them off of uh applications for other boards and i' hate to do those boards first and have to come back to this one so I think this one makes sense to do next if there's any disagreement could you either speak up or put something in the chat okay great so here we are at cannabis and I'm going to try and unpack this to make it the the simplest

[42:01] possible so why don't we start with our health and education folks and um we've got three nominees for that would somebody like to nominate one of those and we need to point two by the way well uh Bob go ahead um yeah I'll just nominate both of them right now um um I thought both Brian Keegan and Tom kman um had the the the requisite medical and Health Care background and interest uh to be our health and education um folks on this board they they were outstanding applications or outstanding uh uh interviewees and this seems to me like a probably one of the easier choices we'll make tonight okay uh does anyone have another nomination okay so hearing none I will close

[43:00] nominations and then by acclamation Brian Keegan and Tom kutzman will be appointed to the Cannabis licensing and Advisory Board okay moving on to the next one let's work on community at large because again that has fewer applicants and we have three to appoint there so taking nominations for anyone for the community at large either Voice or text in that case I'm going to make some nominations here I will okay so we have one meby nominates Robin no that was me that was Mary sorry Mary does Robin I'm sorry I Nom I nomin Robin okay and then Rachel ask can you confirm who all qualify so in my Matrix and they on the board I think on

[44:00] the right hand side is the community at large Rachel do you see that column that says community at [Music] large it is just for the record Mel I do sorry when yeah my my screen's toggling I got it out now thanks okay very good uh Bob nominates Michael Christie Aaron nominates Sarah rean okay I'm gonna nominate Rick Munoz anyone else so if I've got this correctly we've got Sarah rean Robin Noble Michael chrisy and Rick buo does that sound right yes Sam yes eron in the um in the diagram we have up there Rick mono is

[45:00] not listed in the community large section so let me turn to staff and say staff is there a reason why is Rick mosz in the industry Sam Mrs is Debbie I believe that he is um I'll double check that but on the graphic that you have on the board it shows him under the industry but I will double check that right now check in our packet it had industry the initial one it does okay interesting he did not he did not speak to that in his interview and I didn't see it in his application so I withdraw the nomination for Rick me knows and then what that means I believe is we have three nominations for three slots so unless there's any objection I'm going to say that by acclamation we have Robin Noble uh Michael Christie and Sarah rigan do we get to specify the one-year

[46:00] term versus the two FES yeah I think we actually probably want to come back and do that because don't we have the same issue with the health or no so I thought we'd collect our people Rachel and then work on term length is that okay fine with me okay samam I have a question yes uh because actually when I was listening to Rick Munos he only talked about his community experience his personal experience with marijuana so I'm wondering if we decide not to nominate him as a community at large because I also wanted to nominate him because of his compelling a life experience can you hear me you're Frozen no no I can hear you okay so that means that then he will be in the um the industry then well we still have the same opportunity to nominate him so I think I'm wondering can staff find out

[47:02] for us and then do industry and health um ex official first then come back to it because I think uh Rick Munos is a very very good candidate well if he is in the industry um then we need to know that through um probably his application and so sta have you been able to find his application because it should be in our packet yes Sam I'm reading it right now I don't see anything that says he works in the industry it says he's used it many for years and that he's he he's he does things with Bitcoin and he's had conversations with some businesses about it about using Bitcoin and maybe that's why where the confusion comes from I see Sam this is Debbie so um this graph that you have up on the screen that was provided to us by um

[48:01] um licensing and cao's office so I believe it was Sandra and um michon Who provided this graphic and they put these people in these buckets got it um you know it's interesting if they took his Bitcoin and his conversations um with marijuana shops as him being in the industry would be kind of like um disqualifying um somebody who provides them with coffee cups or something um and defining that as being in the industry so um this is unfortunate that we're at this point and we have have that question outstanding um I guess one thing that we should find out is would there be enough support for him in community at large uh that this would matter and so let me ask besides juny and I would anyone else be supporting Rick

[49:01] mosz to be on um this board he's not in my top three okay and so I've got uh two other people who would support him um in fact three now four okay so he would get a lot of support um so my suggestion here is that we go ahead and put him on in commun well not put him on consider him I'm sorry in community at large and if he gets on then we need to to chase it down if he does not turn out if he turns out to be in the industry then we may need to return to this and that's not completely unheard of we've done single board appointments at later times when needed so I I'm going to make a game day decision here Tom or somebody else jump in if it's wrong I would like to consider Rick mosz in this group and if he gets on we will do a little more work if he doesn't it's not an issue yeah s

[50:00] the challenge is in his answer to the question about professional there's a question please disclose any personal business or friends or family connections to the marijuana industry that you have and he answered I don't have any personal connections with the can cannabis industry that may be where the confusion is arising he didn't say that he didn't have any business and maybe they just took that as a default I see okay well we'll work through it in this way and then we will um sort out anything that needs sorted out later so let's see so who have we got here I've kind of lost the thread we've got Rick nominated Robin nominated um Michael Christie nominated I'm sure I'm missing somebody it's scrolled out past so who do we Lynette who's nominated so far I believe we have Michael Robin Sarah and Rick got it so that's four people for three slots

[51:02] and the way that we normally do this is we will um go through and we will say this is for the five-year term and then we'll have a vote and then we'll say this is for the five-year term and we'll have a vote and then we'll say this is for the one-year term and we'll have a vote and so when we do that um and we have the vote whoever um wins if somebody's a clear winner with five votes then they get that term if we have no more than four votes for a person then we remove the lowest vote getter and move on so with the four that we've got um Lynette what's the order we start with Michael Christie hang on one second Aeron wants to say something than Sam and so yeah that that process works just fine and I I just want to remind folks that um one your term is not necessarily a booby prize because I think we generally if somebody has a a short term and is is

[52:01] doing a good job that they almost always get reappointed so just point that out thank you okay so we start with Michael Christie all in favor of Michael Christie give me a text that says for a fiveyear term so I've got Bob okay here's a bunch Rachel Aaron juny Mark and I would support him as well Adam so I think we we have an acclamation for Michael Christie for one of the fiveyear terms okay I support him as well but I don't know why so in just kind of an aside here um in the chat box um I'm appearing in the shade of blue I don't know what that means um and you didn't see my message so I'm just wondering if I'm showing up or not I saw you say Mary and then I saw

[53:03] you say me too okay you okay cool Mary and just to note that your your messages appear to yourself different than they appear to everyone else oh okay thank you okay so we have Michael Christie um and then that the remaining three are Sarah Rob and Rick Munoz and so of those three looking at a fiveyear term um are we going to reverse alphabetical this time blette um yes that's correct and so I have to slot me in okay so it will be Sarah Reagan Robin Noble and um Rick MOS will be the order we take that in so uh in favor of Sarah so either just text this text either Sarah Robin or

[54:06] Rick so Rachel is for Robin Bob is for Sarah Aon for Sarah Adams for Robin Mary's for Rick okay I've got to count these up hang on one second so Robin gets to three so meby you said Rick Robin so I think okay so is it rick Munoz or Robin mby could you clear up who you'd like okay Rick okay so for Rick we have one two I see two so Mary and mirbi and I will vote for Rick so that's three and then for Robin we have one two and so juny so we have

[55:01] four for Rick Mary nearby Sam and juny four for Rick and then we have two for Sarah and two for Robin and that doesn't make sense because that totals eight so Lynette what am I missing um hold on I have to count and catch up so I see mirb Robin is not a robin so Robin has one three for Sarah okay three for Sarah that's what I oh yeah Bob Sarah Sarah got it okay and then that means Robin received two is that correct yes so then we have three for Sarah and and that math works out so we have four for Rick and three for Sarah

[56:01] so we will do a runoff between Rick and Sarah for the fiveyear term correct sorry between yes so we do a runoff between Rick and Robin for the five-year term sorry Rick and Sarah I apologize I apologize Sam Excuse me yes uh I just got an A email from one of the lawyers in my office the reason that missan put Rick Munoz in the industry um industry category was he he said he was developing a product for sale to the marijuana industry and that's probably Bitcoin but but selling to the marijuana industry is not necessarily disqualifying as being part of the industry right that's your call and she she said she wasn't sure whether the the product would be sold to other people and it wasn't clear whether it was Bitcoin or not but I just wanted you to have that information absolutely your

[57:01] call okay I'd say we keep him here because I don't I don't have any sense that he works for a grow operation or a dispensary so okay so Lynette where are we excellent question I think we're runoff between Sarah and and Rick we start with Rick and hang on one second Rachel wants to speak yeah I just I guess I'm a little bit confused and to me Robin was the only person who spoke very um precisely about needing to look at um the health impacts that like families are experiencing from concentrations in marijuana and things like that and I don't know that this board is going to have that sort of representation without her on it so while we're making these considerations I just wanted to make sure like Rick is is a um I liked him as a candidate as well but there's going to

[58:00] be a lot of people um pretty um Pro with the the industry side and I want to make sure that we are representing the other side with our at large and I'm not sure we're doing that with this vote thanks okay so Mary young agreed with Rachel Adam swle second to Rachel um uh I I feel a couple things on that personally I feel like health and education is that's one of the intents there and that's why we put two people that are health professionals there um and uh I I don't disagree we can have this discussion now or later depending on what we want I my my inclination towards Rick was mostly because of his lived experience with medical marijuana and um you know we we think mostly about recreational marijuana at this point um because it's become a much larger industry and it seemed to me like Rick would bring the the focus to how are

[59:02] patients being treated and cared for within the medical marijuana industry and you know what are the systems between recreational and medical that might not work so well so I wasn't actually nominating Rick against uh Robin I just thought Rick would be important so anybody else want to speak to this before we vote I think that's important okay so Vette uh you'll start with Rick first um which whatever whatever term you want to begin with okay um we're doing the fiveyear term right now as the discussion so all in favor of Rick for the fiveyear term just type Rick okay Mary why are you

[60:03] confused I thought we're appointing three people and so far I have that um we have Robin Rick and Sarah um did we appoint Christie already I'm I lost track we appointed chrisy already okay so we have two more seats to fill correct okay got it thank you Adam has a question yes since we're now down to two this is just down to two for the five year right that doesn't preclude us from bringing in um Robin again for the one-year term correct that is correct okay just wanted to clear that up thank you yep so uh we have for Rick I have one two three and I'm number four so there's and Adam is for Rick so that's five for Rick so we do not need to

[61:00] continue so Rick gets a five-year term and so the remaining two I believe are Robin Noble and Sarah rean is that right Lynette that's correct okay and so why don't we speak to anybody you want to speak to Robin okay so Bob would you like to speak no I don't I was just voting I don't need to speak to the candidate okay um so let's do this between unless does anyone else want to speak between Robin and Sarah U yeah sorry I lost my my text thing but do you mind Sam oh go for it well I I uh I nominated Sarah I actually won't necessarily uh vote for her in this round now that we're at this point um but I did want to just speak up for her CU I thought um her experience at the state capital um was impressive and she had some uh intelligent um answers

[62:00] um about the Cannabis industry so anyway just in I nominated her I did want to say some good words about her um but I actually at this in this round will be supporting Robin okay so people continue to vote because I've got Aaron down for Robin and then I have to and then okay ern's in for Robin so I have one two three there's nearby okay 1 two 3 four five six 7even so I'm still missing one vote so I have Bob Mark Rachel Adam Mary Aaron and mirbi it looks like Robin's going to win regardless one two three four five six so it's Robin for the one-year term for the at Large you're missing you or no no no I'm missing one more okay juny just came in okay that

[63:02] that's the one I was missing so there we go it's definitely Robin and so Robin Noble will be the oneyear term for community at large on cannabis all right and that brings us to Industry we are to a point two uh one twoyear and one threeyear term and and so I would open the floor for nominations for industry so Bob nominates Alana and then we've got Mark nominating Ashley and Aaron nominating Shawn so I have Atlanta Ashley and Shawn and then we have Evan Anderson from juny so uh

[64:00] no okay so why don't we do this um Evan why don't we do this um I propose that we start with the three-year term we have four nominees and I will open up does anyone want to speak to any of the nominees right now just jump in Sam I will great mark um I thought Ashley rold had a very very substantial uh background in resume a lot of experience working with policy advisers legislators and the department of regulatory agencies on rulle making um she's a previous owner of a uh dispensary uh she seems very sensitive to issues dealing with marijuana and children um and is looking for more collaboration between the industry and school districts to get out the appropriate message to kids um she's also a proponent of more equity and minority uh ownership in the Cannabis

[65:01] industry and I thought it was a a very very strong background very good so I've got Bob and then Aaron yeah I've lost my application so I have to do this from memory but um for cannabis but Alana has spoken in front of council many many times about the industry I think she served on our Advisory Board um and was as I understand from other members of The Advisory Board was a tremendous contributor as a member of the industry uh like um like uh Mark just mentioned about Ashley she seems to be very concerned about ensuring that consumption happens at only in the appropriate places and not by children um she's young and an industry owner and um uh i' I've heard nothing but great things about her from the people who served with her on the Cannabis Advisory board thank you Aaron and then juny yeah I'll I'll Echo those uh comments by Bob uh I think Atlanta did a phenomenal job on the marijuana advisory panel um and then I'll just this is a

[66:02] situation we've got a lot of really good folks so um it's tough to narrow it down to two uh but just to speak to Shan Coleman I think most folks know Shan um he he has run for City Council in the past um he's been involved in the industry for some number of years he's very knowledgeable and and and and can represent the I think is a very good knowledge of the issues and would do a great job on this boort thank you Aon JY yes um I would like to nominate Evan Anderson and I think it's because he's an owner in the industry and he talked about in his first answer he talked about controlling access about protecting students and I live actually near GG grve and that's one of the big issues with Boulder high that is next door and with students and a lot of young people having access to marijuana and or canabas and using it and he also talked about enforcement and ensuring that young people are protected and he

[67:01] also talked about limiting the negative impact of of that particular substance so I thought his uh his answers were really strong and I was moved even though I didn't know too much about that particular industry I think from his answer I think he's a really really great candidate but everyone else was really good and I did like Sean as well and uh yeah I just wanted to say I hope we can avoid having two owners um in the two spots for the marijuana industry just for diversity of opinion I think it's important that we try to just limit it to one owner if possible Adam who are the owners in this this St four uh as far as I know it's Evan andana for sure yeah Alana okay very good okay so I think we're ready to go um we have four nominees and uh we're

[68:00] going to do the three-year term Lynette what's the order I think we start from the bottom because we didn't last time can I ask a quick question I thought Ashley and Alana were both owners um my my notes and I won't claim to be the final Authority on this was that Ashley worked as the compliance director for terapin I have that's corre that's correct I have ra owner I have that as well thank you yep so so she she will have compliance in her head one way or the other okay so uh let's see for the three-year term why don't people just write in who they'd like to vote for

[69:29] seven so I have seven votes recorded here one is not mine okay there's juny Evan so I will vote for so we have three for Alana three for Ashley one for Shawn one for Evan I'm gonna vote for Ashley for the three-year term and so that's not enough for five and so that means Lynette correct me if I'm wrong that both Sean and Evan get knocked out

[70:00] I believe that's correct yes yep so now we have Alana and Ashley for the three-year term cast your vote so we have five for Alana so no need for any more votes so Alana gets the three-year term and now it's open back up for the one-year term we have Ashley Shawn and Evan so please cast your vote Ashley sha or Evan so I have six votes recorded need two more

[71:02] Mary is Ashley that's four for Ashley I'm gonna vote for Ashley so that's five so Ashley gets the one-year term and believe it or not we have just seated a brand new board um once we vote to ratify all this thanks to everyone who applied uh it is a big job there's a lot developing it's a new field and we appreciate your help in working our way through through the issues in the field so now think we've uh decided on the health education um there's a one-year term and a three-year term thank you for the reminder I apologize for that um let me get back so who did we end up with Bri Brian and Tom were the by unanimous deci side um you know I'm open to suggestions Bob thank you I don't have a suggestion I

[72:01] just wanted to process Point Let's get that done and then address ex offici you um so I I think they're both great um what why don't why don't we do this we have a two-year and a three-year so why don't we take the three-year and please write either Brian or Tom for the threee okay we have it's Tom by acclamation for the three-year term so then we have Tom and Brian and then there's ex officio Rachel oh sorry Adam's first Adam X officio I believe we only had one applicant so uh that was Allison Bailey I think we also had uh guard okay say nominate Alison Bailey then well can can I pop in here with

[73:01] something sure go ahead because it's it's sorry to interrupt but it's a process thing yeah because you know we um because of a glitch with the application process we didn't have a chance to interview the other ex officio folks and um Mir Chim in here at any time Mir and I as the board and commissions uh subcommittee um uh we're going to provide an opportunity for them to be interviewed uh before our uh last business meeting but then of course um um it it didn't work out because of the the the virus situation so I'm so we have we have a situation here where we have not had the chance to interview some of these folks through no fault of their own and so I wonder if we might put off um the ex official appointments for that reason I I think it's the will of council um in in my mind we don't even have to do ex officio and we had the

[74:00] written applications for both of them I believe in fact Allison's was a supplemental to us correct y so uh I Council say Yes or No Yes means we're going to do it tonight no means you want to put it off I'm this I'm confused I thought we had like five more people that the applications came in late so Allison was one of two that got in on time but then there were another series that came in Lynette do you remember Debbie can you speak to that I think they're all listed on the slide they are all listed on the slide um those others all came in but they were originally um they didn't go from the application Point into the database so they were included later and I I believe I sent all of those applications to you and that was prior to our first appointment meeting regular meeting um

[75:01] which of course you know has been a while so none of those were actually interviewed except for Allison I believe and um it had been suggested by mirabi that we hold I think it was mirabi and um Mary that suggested we hold interviews with them prior to that meeting which of course didn't happen so that's fine and everybody says no we can wait so there we go so we're done for now um and we can at some point in the future maybe it comes up in the work plan discussion set up an interview time for ex officio it it's not as critical of course as seeking the voting members but we can do it as time allows everyone okay with that great so before we run out of time I would like to go on to um Boulder housing partners because we've had a request that that um that person be seated before the next board meeting um from Boulder housing partners and let's

[76:02] see if I've got that right yep we have two applicants uh sorry we have two seats open one for a five-year term and one for a two-year term and this is technically a mayoral appointment by um state law but I we always just treat it as another one and I I do whatever says so is there a nomination for uh either of these seats and you don't have to specify which we're just after names at this point Sam I'd like to nominate Matt Bonet okay very good and then we have Julie shonfeld is nominated by Mary Claudia Hansen team is nominated by

[77:04] Aaron Bob nominates Jan so we have four going now somebody nominated juny uh I don't believe Charlotte pittz is in the boulder housing Partners I believe that's the um housing Advisory board so we have and has anyone nominated Matt biset I don't think so so I will nominate Matt biset I I did say Sam you did I'm sorry I didn't catch it because it's not on the chat thank

[78:01] you okay so I have four um I have Jan Burton Claudia Hansen theme Julie shonfield and Matt biset is that what you've got Lynette yes great uh does anyone want to speak to any of these I'm happy to speak for Matt go for it um I I think Matt Binet is is is vastly qualified for this job he's he's got huge experience as both an attorney and a banker for the largest affordable housing lender in the US uh he seems to be familiar with every form of affordable housing Finance vehicle and structure um he supports more transitional and Supportive Housing for the homeless and he's worked in this uh in the affordable housing industry since 1997 um I just can't think of anybody more qualified to sit on that board and review the types of transactions that uh the Housing Authority uh

[79:02] reviews very good then I've got Aaron and Bob well I I I think we have an embarrassment of riches for this sport I wish we had four or five spots um I you know thought Matt was really impressive uh I think you know we know Jan's depth of involvement with housing issues and and the value she brings there I thought Bill rigler's approach to PR PR was really good and Julie shonfeld also um brought some great qualities but I'll speak for for Claudia um Claudia applied to boards last year and um and I've always found her to be a really sharp and incisive uh thinker on housing issues she brings a strong uh social justice and inclus inclusivity approach and um is not afraid to to to go for new new approaches and and new ideas so I think she be a really valuable addition to the board great and then we've got Bob and Mary well like Aaron I'm going to speak as to all four candidates

[80:00] because I think they're all outstanding um uh first of all I agree completely with Mark on Matt vonet I'm going to vote for him for one of the spots um because I I having served on the boulder housing Partners board for three years myself as the council liaison I will tell you that this is a a board that's a very technical board that requires experience in financing in law and real estate development this is not so much a policy board that's say for other boards this is a board about building housing and Matt is is imminently qualified for for this board Claudia has been a tireless advocate for affordable housing she appears for before Council frequently she's eloquent she's knowledgeable and she's passionate and I I think we couldn't go wrong with her I happen to personally know Julie shonfeld she and I worked together at level three communications many many years ago um she she's a super smart lawyer she's very dedicated she's a mom um and she um wants to be on this board for all the right reasons and creating affordable

[81:01] housing for our lower income families and then finally I'll speak to Jan who I nominated I think most of you know Jan many of us have had the opportunity to serve with Jan on city council uh Jan's number one priority always on Council was affordable housing and I think it's a very natural um uh a move for her from from from that advocacy on Council to advocacy 4 able housing uh on the board of Boulder housing partners and I know that she will having served on that board for three years myself I know that Jan will fit in very well with the other uh board members great and then uh Mary so Bob touched on the reasons that I um think um Julie shonfeld will make a great board member the fact that she's got real estate law and development law and the but the other thing is that she's also um involved with the home wanted campaign and the home wanted campaign if you haven't heard of it is it's a collaboration among the nine

[82:02] jurisdictions in Boulder County and um it's part of and organized by the Boulder County Regional Housing Partnership so I think she would bring that big picture um as far as the region perspective to this board um along with those other qualifications so that's why um I'll be supporting um Julie and I'll also be supporting Matt Binet uh Rachel just real quick I agree we have as Erin said an embarrassment of riches and a lot of really good candidates I also thought bill rler was good in in terms of bringing a pretty different and unique perspective to this um Endeavor but as to the four that we are considering I would just um want to say maybe we don't want to appoint two attorneys um as that seems like a little bit overkill on the attorney side as an attorney thanks very good

[83:02] three what's that no I'm just commenting because we just elected three C we've got yeah three attorneys on Council or four anyway very good okay so Jan Burton Claudia Hansen team Julie shonfeld Matt bnet this is an advisory vote so we've got a five-year term let's start with that one I assume that they're all nominated so um write in who you'd like to see between those four so we have four for Matt I'm G to vote for Matt so Matt will get the fiveyear

[84:05] term and then that leaves Jan Burton Claud Hansen team and Julie shonfeld um for the two-year term please vote okay and with my vote it'll be five and Julie so um Julie shonfeld gets the um two-year term okay yeah eron just quick uh kind of process question you usually um not that it matters enormously but we have a kind of a public record of support via kind of who's raising their hands um on on the video um in and in this case uh much of this the public record is the text are we recording are we are we making public I guess this is a question for Tom making public the the chat Chris

[85:02] can confirm that the plan is to record it and and save it in the archives so it'll be available to the public great thanks for confirming that that's correct okay good enough we have five minutes before we start our briefing and I'm going to turn to Tom Tom my inclination here would be that we vote to um ratify the nominations we've made so far that way if we get to the end of 30 and we don't want to start the remainder um we could do you know another session of this and then vote to ratify that session that's fine Sam that's what I would do I would also ask that you you all vote to suspend the rules um because your rules technically require a public hearing before you appoint and I I just like to confirm so there's no question about the ability of these folks to serve great so Bob moves

[86:00] that um that we suspend the rules juny 2 are there any objections to suspending the rules hearing none um are there any objections to okay Bob moves that we ratify is there a second to Bob Mir by seconds so we will have a vote um because we it's harder to vote I'm going to ask is there anyone who wants to vote against the motion to ratify seeing none that's unanimous so we have seated open space planning Boulder housing Partners RAB and our cannabis um licensing and Advisory board that is great progress because we had a full board to seat which is difficult to do as we saw at least timec consuming and so at the end of the evening they should get easier I think the the hardest remaining boards are Tab and

[87:02] housing and after that there were fewer applicants for the other boards so um we'll bookmark this and um maybe we want to take a two or three minute break and at 7 o'clock um since we have told the public it would be at 7 um that we will begin our our briefing so does that sound good to everyone anyone who's got an objection to that please let me know very good a few minute break and then we'll come back for our covid briefing thank you to staff for the support this has really been pretty smooth considering it's the first time we've ever done it remotely

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[89:20] e okay it is 7 o'clock um Jane are we ready for for a briefing yeah we are ready for the briefing um the first part of the briefing is going to be Jeff Zak from

[90:02] Boulder County Public Health so Chris can you put up the screen and then Jeff will start off I am ready when you are okay take it away uh thank you again uh mayor and Council and Jane for inviting me uh I really appreciate being able to do this and provide what I have as latest information again my name is Jeff Zak I'm the director of Boulder County Public Health and at the last briefing you had asked me for some more detailed information so I'm bringing a little bit more of those statistics for you today in hopes that it can help answer some of those questions then what I'd like to do is just walk through where we are at this point what we expect over these next couple weeks um and I want want to emphasize a few things that the governor had talked about uh in these last several days so let me just start with the statistics first so as of today um we've got 115

[91:03] positives in Boulder County the average age of those uh are 47 years old the number of residents that we have hospitalized out of that 115 are 20 at this point um the number hospitalized under age 60 are six uh we have a total confirmed um recovered count of 43 and it is important I always like to continue to stress this because this this virus is a scary virus it can definitely spread and we know that but we also want to remind people that most people that get this virus are going to recover fine from it and the majority of the people that get it are going to have minor symptoms so uh it is something we need to take very seriously and we also want to emphasize with people that most people um are going to recover and do fine with this virus virus uh we do have about 29 pending disease investigations right now and unfortunately we have two people who have deceased from the

[92:00] virus uh the total number of uh I've got some Hospital data that is current um some daily as of today and some in the last week the total number of currently Hospital cases that are reported in Boulder County are 36 at this point I don't have it broken down by individual Hospital these are total um for all Hospital hospitals the total persons under investigation at hospitals at this point are 52 um the the medical surge bed availability and this was back to a question that was asked last week um in a as a daily report um is 235 so Med surgical bed availability at this point is 235 the ICU bed availability is 27 um the number of hospitals reporting shortages are zero at this point which is good news for us in Boulder County the number of hospitals reporting ICU bed shortages that are anticipated is

[93:01] two um the adult vents ventilation available is 82 and the Pediatric available vents are 10 at this point and the total number of acute care beds are 497 total number of ICU capable beds are 42 number of hospital and rep that are reporting adequate supply of n95s for the next two weeks are three out of our six hospitals um I'll talk a little bit more about that that Supply as well and then the number of hospitals reporting adequate supply of surgical procedure mass for the next two weeks is also three out of six and the one of the things that we've been struggling with as I'm sure um you've been following is the supply of n95s and the supply of surgical mass as well as other personal protective equipment and uh if You' watched what the governor reported this week There's a significant Statewide shortage associated with that as well as a national shortage we

[94:01] continue um to press that forward not just from Boulder County but from multiple counties across the state to the governor's office and I know the governor's office continues to meet with the vice president and press that issue at the national level um and as I believe you're all aware as well the governor has put a Innovation task force in place and one of the focuses of the task force is to identify um and find ways to produce PPE locally in the state I don't have an update from that task force specifically um we do in the next two weeks we do expect to see an increase in cases and one of the things that's important to think about here is that the orders went in place but there's typically there's typically a delay from the time that those that those orders went in place due to exposure and the onset of symptoms associated with that and then another delay to the onset of an ICU admission

[95:00] and that can be up to two weeks so we know that we expect to see more people coming in over these next two weeks it has been a pattern um that we've watched across the United States um so we don't want people to give up hope and think that the the orders that we're putting in place are not being effective I'm going to talk more about what it means to be effective as we move forward and potentially um when the orders get lifted what has to be in place to help keep that curve down um so we don't continue to see surges um I wanted to talk because this this is an important uh concept and it's not always easily understood but the you might have heard the governor talk about our not values um and that we are at a between a three and four and what that really means and why it's important is that one person who is positive with covid can infect three people those three people in turn can then affect

[96:00] nine people those nine people in turn can then affect 27 people and so on and so forth so the reason that these orders are so critically important is we want to be able to prevent the spread of that disease by having that spread multiply so quickly once it gets into the population so following those orders right now is really critical for us in Colorado so we will we certainly appreciate everything that anybody can do to make sure that they are following those those orders that they're staying at home um handwashing is critically important if you do have to go out anytime you're touching knobs um or touching a commonly shared surface you want to make sure you're washing your hands or you're using an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that is going to be critically important as we as we move forward into these upcoming weeks um um the other thing that I think that I wanted to focus on is to just really make sure that people are aware that

[97:00] that we're doing the best we can in the state of Colorado to really look at what projections we think are going to happen I think the governor did a good job of displaying what data he had how he thinks um our mitigation strategies moving forward are going to have an impact and potentially what would need place in order for those mitigation strategies to be lifted and that's what I wanted to talk a little bit more about um if you've if you've been following this nationally as well you're hearing this reported in the national news but there's three key capabilities for Colorado that are going to be necessary for us to move forward and there's been uh some specific structures set up to try to put those in place we know that even though we can reduce the the steepness of that curve and how many people get the Disease by putting in place Place orders that if we don't have control on the back end of that and when I say control I mean that we have the ability to do monitoring in Colorado

[98:01] that we have the ability to do community based testing in Colorado and that we have the ability to to do capacity and containment in Colorado that those things um once an order is lift we can we we could see surges back in our community again so there's there's three different uh in addition to the Innovation test Tas Force there's been three focuses uh and work groups that have been set up one is to build monitoring capacity um the other is to build community- based testing so this is specifically to look at things like how in Colorado can we support the advancement and comprehensive testing across um a lot larger areas uh and test more people and the third one is to really increase the capacity for containment so much like was done in China developing a work Workforce that will support once the testing is in place to be able to then do quickly isolation and quarantine of people who are positive so as you hold down that as

[99:02] you hold down that the uh the curve with your orders you have less people eventually entering um the hospital system you're getting it under control with some of those orders you then move back into making sure that you have better testing and containment of people who are being positive in the community and you're controlling spread from that manner uh this the Colorado Department of Public Health and environment is supporting the focus of these three groups and are participating on some of these and these three groups are linking back to the governor's Innovation task force that's working in these areas as well so that there's coordination and collaboration um to move these things forward the the the plans are all intended to be in place by April 15th so that they can be implemented shortly after that this is as you can imagine this is a lot of difficult complex work and there's a lot of people focused on this right now and working towards um being able to get this in place uh a lot

[100:01] of information I I want to again before I stop talking um just say again how much I appreciate the partnership with the city of Boulder the staff at the city of Boulder have been wonderful Jane has um demonstrated strong leadership and making sure that we're working together across all of our communities uh and it's been because of her leadership that we are so successful between the city of Boulder and the county um also want to thank the city for participating so closely in our call center um all of our our communities are now participating in our in our call center and it helps us coordinate information back out so I want to thank uh thank them specifically and and I'll stop there and see if there's any questions very good um Bob has a question uh thank you Jeff to start with um we really appreciate these updates there for us and for our community and appreciated you being on the the um town

[101:00] hall yesterday with representative ngus so we will start with a question from Bob well Jeff first of all I want to thank you for for um uh showing up virtually every Tuesday night at our council meeting I know you're making the rounds with other Council uh meetings throughout the county and you're coordinating very closely with the state you must be working 100 hours a week so I want to thank you for taking an hour every Tuesday night to uh to to share with with the Boulder Community what you know um just a quick question Jeff uh the um this afternoon uh Jan Bram sent out a a link to a modeling from The Institute for health metrics and evaluation and you're probably familiar with the ihme uh and the the statistics shown in that for Colorado were pretty uh well for all the states but but I'm focusing just on Colorado for the second um we're pretty Stark and alarming and show that um we could start running out of out of beds ICU beds and regular beds um in the

[102:02] middle part of of April as this as this Peaks um do you have any comment on on this particular uh statistical study whether you think it's credible or not credible or too early to say and and if you think it is credible and that we'll start to run out of of beds and capacities what what our plans are when when we start to in mid April definitely and I'm going to I'm going to ask Dr vist to address this as well but what I I have looked at that um and what I would say is I I compared that to what the governor's estimates were and there is a difference in those numbers depending on whether it's again in that r not3 or r not4 or less than that category so there is a little bit of a difference in the estimates from that modeling versus what the the governor had presented the other day um and this speaks to the ch challenge associated with all the factors that go into any of those kind of models they're really difficult it depends on how well people follow orders what percentage of

[103:01] uh mitigation we're at in the state and uh so it's it's not an easy it's not an easy comp compilation I know that for sure so I'll I'll stop there and I'll defer any further answer to Dr vissers because I know he's been speaking specifically with the Colorado Hospital Association and they've been doing some modeling as well thanks Jeff so Dr vissers just to remind you you may need to hit um star six on your phone to unmute great y all set um thank you Jeff and and thank you for the question Bob um I think you're asking the question that we're all trying to answer and uh in the absence of uh more widespread testing it's really um made projections difficult so we are relying on the experience of other uh places that have preceded us uh however uh it's hard to um put into that

[104:01] formula the impact that um stay-at-home orders and social distancing has had we've looked at a couple of uh models from Advisory Board um uh um Johns Hopkins um as well as the hospital Association as well as the state and they they vary quite a bit um I did speak to the medical director for Colorado Hospital Association this evening um and they still feel like their best estimate is somewhere between the middle and end of April um just based on some of the data that they're starting to get back they said just over the weekend um that it's pushed out three days uh and um so I guess the the one thing I would say and and this is it's probably a two early but I I mean this as encouragement for us to continue with our efforts uh to stay at home is that the data that we're seeing that we share with all the other hospitals and

[105:01] what the hospital Association is seeing is that there does seem to be a flattening of the new cases over the last three days small sample size maybe way too early to say but we're all hopeful that this represents a beginning of the flattening of the curve secondary to the efforts of of um your leadership and and the community and the response to to um the requests um so that that could make a tremendous difference um we are still working under the assumption that we will need four to five times the critical care beds we've developed a capacity plan and and a model or contingency plan that allows us to increase our um our Critical Care beds and ventilated patients to that four to fivefold number and and those would be the patients that we really need to take care of and nobody body else can take care of um we're now moving into um a way that we can manage The Surge because we can't do that and have four to five

[106:00] times inpatient beds um that would require a hospital to to hold 600 patients um but if we can move the patients out more quickly and keep patients from coming into hospital um then we can manage those acutely ill uh Critical Care patients at that five toofold increase and I know that uh other Hospital are working towards that number as best they can um I can talk a little bit more about our contingency plans and the things we're doing in my report but the short answer is uh it's concerning and and somewhat alarming uh but having said that uh if we can continue to bend this curve um and even use these next two weeks wisely and extend it out to three weeks um I I I think we can hopefully build the capacity to a place where we can manage that Peak and surge great thank you Dr vissers um juny had uh a followup she asked do we know how many cases we have in the city and is

[107:02] there a reason why or why not um we can break down further from uh the county level to the city uh this is Jeff and I I'm sorry I did not break it down by city we should be able to do that um and I will make sure that I follow up and send that to J so she can share it with council members following the meeting great thank you very much juny is that good and then um we have Mary next so I had a another question but I'll I'll ask this question um as a followup to jun's question is um is there what would a breakdown of the number of cases per City within the county um provide to us so I is that I think it allows you to look at a geographic location of where we're

[108:01] getting positives but one of the things that I think is really critical and and Dr V has touched on this is right now our testing capacity is pretty limited so I I would not want it to um to lead us to believe that that's the only places that cases are or are not we know that we have more widespread virus in our community and that's the way that we're approaching this which is why obviously uh we supported the orders going forward and so I think that's really the biggest thing is not to think that just because that's where the cases are showing up positive with those numbers that that means that's how the cases are distributed across our County um so I have a kind of a followup to that is so there's a lot of travel to and from um the community ities within Boulder County and also outside of Boulder County and so I guess I'm trying to understand how

[109:01] um how quantifying the number of cases within a certain boundary what does that tell us or not tell us with respect um to people moving to and from and in and out of the boundaries yeah this so um in terms of right now it doesn't tell us a lot I can tell you that as we started to learn about early cases that most of those cases were actually associated with travel so when we were first starting to see positives we could see that travel was a big influencer in terms of the numbers of cases that we were seeing and the types of cases but right now we it's not going to tell us much the reason that we really need to see enhanced testing across the state again just to go back to that point um and why it's important is because if we can hold the curve down with the orders we can enhance testing so it's much more available at a wider scale then we can do more of the containment and

[110:00] suppression isolation quarantine and help keep that that curve down moving forward in the long run but that will take all of those things that I talked about before it will take much more increased monitoring it will take take much more increased testing and it will take enhanced capacity on Workforce to be able to do those things all of which are actively being worked on right now so Mary if I could Cate real quick um is there so generally speaking we have a few hospitals in the county and so is it the case that people say within Boulder and near Boulder tend to go to Boulder Community Hospital and people in Longmont um tend to go to the hospital in Longmont people out east tend to go to a Vista um what what both Behavior do you see as far as where people report and then do you typically transfer between hospitals if there are capabilities they need at other

[111:00] hospitals Dr V do you want to take that one sure um so uh we um we care for a large percentage of the of the population of those that live in Boulder the city uh however uh um at least um a third or or half of our patients come from outside of Boulder as well so we serve all Boulder County as well as a superior Broomfield and in some cases uh all over the state um but the majority of uh we probably have the largest share of Boulder patients um some of that is dictated by the service that's provided so we have uh more robust comprehensive services like um um in in Good Sam as well some is driven by by Insurance um um having said that I I would say the we the predominant provider of people that reside within Boulder itself um in terms of transfers

[112:00] um right now uh I think everybody is managing the the cases that come to them so anytime you are transporting a patient who's infectious and potentially critical ill it puts the the transport uh Personnel at risk and it also puts uh the individual being transported at risk particularly if they're if they're ill or unstable um however uh we are in constant communication with the other hospitals not just within the county but across the the Front Range uh and everybody has made a clear commitment to share capacity resources and and if need be um the care of patients from from um other areas if we have the capacity and they don't um we aren't anywhere close to to needing to do that yet and I think the primary goal is for each of the hospitals to try and increase uh the capacity that they have to care for the patients within their Community recognizing that every community and every hospital is going to be uh

[113:00] overwhelmed um hopefully that that helps answer some of that it does thank you are there any other questions for Mr Zak or Dr vissers seeing none I think I will thank you for your update we appreciate it I think we're going to expect to have uh special meetings or meetings regular meetings every week um headed out through at least the end of April so when you're available if you're available we really appreciate the information we get from you sure thing thank you both so Jane I'll turn it back over to you thanks and if Chris would put up the slide that would be great so we're going to start start with the city update and I'll do just the brief introduction but then Kurt Fern hobber will be talking about the work that housing and Human Services has been doing AET Bowen will talk about the

[114:01] business services that we've been providing and and investigating and then Cheryl patelli and Katie dling are going to talk about our initial take on financial issues that may be coming our way so on to the first slide which is a reminder about why we're here and what our guiding principles are um the most important thing that we putting for our city workers and our city itself is to preserve the Health Care system to flatten the curve which is both Jeff and Rob talked about earlier we need to follow the stay-at-home order we need to be focused on doing that and keeping people safe we want to ensure the continuity of government by delivering essential services and that's going to be an important factor when we start talking about our Financial update a little bit later this evening and then finally we always want to focus on equity and put Equity at the center of everything making sure that all community members are included in the

[115:00] work that we're doing and served equally well uh we have a response team which is working to provide you and our employees and our community with effective Communications continuity of operations meeting emergency needs by coordinating with our many partners caring for employees in the community in an equitable fashion and identifying ways that we can um that the pandemic May exacerbate existing in equities and trying to um amarate those so on to the next slide so a reminder about essential services so please have this in mind when you hear the report from Cheryl and Katie law enforcement which includes police and our Rangers and the open space system fire and rescue our utilities our transportation access ACC and our Response Team other essential Services depending on the day are uh forestry right-of-way inspectors and building inspectors and obviously our

[116:00] internal operations so that we can keep all of these um virtual meetings going through our it Department um our city attorney's office our finance department as well so um the next slide is me turning it over to Kurt firm hobber the director of Housing and Human Services who has several slides to bring you up to date on what we've been doing um in that Arena so Kurt good evening city council um I'm going to talk to you about five things this evening uh I'll start off with the covid recovery center but there's actually many other things that we're working on um to support the community through this I'll also be giving an update on changes to our Sheltering system um uh the questions that came up last week about uh camping and parking um uh rental assistance and finally um our approach to supporting Human Services um within our community next slide so the uh The covid Recovery

[117:02] Center um when I updated you last week we have been open about four days now it's about 11 days we've had a total of 10 individuals who have been checked into the um into the CRC four have been discharged by medical personnel um uh because they have um gotten better and taken the time to um to heal so that's encouraging there's as of this morning there were six there was six individuals that were there we've made um uh some improvements over the last week and um this is this is in the areas of improving um policies and pro procedures that we had we've also a big one is increasing our driver availability to uh 16 hours a day um previously we were just picking up in the evenings when shelters were having checkin um we had a um someone that

[118:02] needed to be collected uh the morning 30 in the morning we 30 this afternoon so the 16-hour availability is very beneficial um to the residents who need this service we've also created with uh with our channel8 um a training um a couple training videos for individuals that will volunteer or work at the at the CRC so in in looking at the first 11 days I would say the the biggest impact that we've had in uh addressing the flattening of that curve is uh taking a handful of individuals out of the Sheltering system um both in Boulder and in longm and giving them a place not only where they're healing but where they're not uh spreading the disease so um I think we're very hopeful that this that the

[119:00] CRC will have an impact on particularly the homeless Community but how it is contained uh within Boulder next slide so this is just a brief summary um the on the left you have the last um I think six days of of volunteers and staff that worked at the site so you can see that we're we're um we're requiring over 600 hours or about 100 hours a day um in volunteer time now these are volunteers that are working at the CRC we've got we've completed 95 shifts but since we opened 11 days ago there's been almost a thousand hours of volunteers um from the community which is really in well community and staff about half or a little more than half are from the community so it's very encouraging to see how our community has stepped up and um 85% of our shifts are

[120:02] um are currently filled over the next few days however I would put a plug in um as you might expect um we need more volunteers for that midnight to 8 A.M shift next slide so last Friday we made some changes to our Sheltering system which included um Bridge house as well as um Boulder shelter for the homeless um we extended the um severe weather shelter to be open every night through the uh the month of April it was anticipated that um tonight would actually be the last evening then it would be weather triggered we also open daytime hours um 00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at 30th stre streets um to provide um facilities uh restroom facilities uh for handwashing and and limited showers um we also had to set up

[121:01] screening so we'll have screening going on tomorrow as well during that period of time to ensure that any of IND individuals entering um the shelters would be screen screened for uh symptoms of covid next slide so the shelter capacity that was another question that we've we've received over the last couple of weeks on the on the left side is the nightly census from in North Boulder from the U Boulder shelter for the homeless you'll see in the blue those are individuals that are um using the facility as the um um as part of our uh housing first program um and then you'll notice it also starts at 100 so um if you looked up on the left hand side there um it goes from 100 to 160 uh individuals the navigation U those are

[122:00] individuals in the navigation program and then the green are those individuals that have been transported from uh 30th Street to the the North Boulder shelter 30 and 10:00 in in the evenings on the right hand side is severe weather shelter as you may know we have a 72 bed capacity at the shelter there's a few nights where it goes over 72 however that is a result of individuals that leave early and others that um take their bed afterwards so um at no point has severe weather shelter gone beyond the the 72 bed capacity um last Friday there was you'll see in the um in the orange um the individuals that are transported from 30th Street to the um the North Boulder shelter and that is done in collaboration with our transport

[123:00] that we've set up for the covid recovery center there's been um an improvement on turnaways since we implemented this um last Friday however there were seven individuals that were that were turned away without housing and last night there was there was two individuals and typically those are individuals that are coming um well after the the the facility has closed next slide so the other the other question that was presented um for us to address briefly was safe parking and and sanctioned camping that was something that we um heard from city council at the retreat in January we had done some work on it in preparation for for uh the April 7th um visit to council which has now been um taken off the off the calendar for now um but we three and a

[124:01] half years ago city council looked at this after coming back from a Portland trip um we also looked at other communities who had um implemented this or had started to implement um similar approaches the um there's five um sort of main buckets of feedback that we receive from those communities one is it it once they get into that type of environment it discourages them from seeking Services um there also was um a measured increase in crime um from the various communities that implemented it and uh we we experienced that a little bit at at the Ninth Street um encampment as well as well and it also has an impact on emergency services so police and fire um have a sort of a a larger um um workload as a result of this in other

[125:02] communities and it provides it has a health risk and and provides a false sense of of security and protection from the elements and we we saw that it's these approaches are mostly used in in warmer climate uh an important one that we saw from all communities that is that it requires an organization to provide governance and leadership in actually um operating um such a facility and lastly attracts um other homeless individuals from other communities who are searching for that type of solution next slide now I'm going to move on to uh um to rental assistance and this is a a very important topic in our community right now and the Boulder County courts have confirmed that they will not handle new eviction cases and has issued an order staying all warrants until the end

[126:02] of May um the city is working closely with um housing Partners to understand the scope and supports available to ensure housing stability in the midst of this Public Health crisis I'll be speaking about the impacts of the current crisis on renters and landlords um we we don't really know the true magnitude of the scope um of the rents until we hit the 1 of April and then as we go through the month of April however we've heard from uh BHP they're ant anticipating this month a $200,000 shortfall in rent and they're anticipating that this um could be covered through the federal stimulus checks and expanded unemploy employment supports um to help with that loss but needs remain in the community Beyond BHP Partners as well um health or housing Human Services has convened a a housing

[127:02] supports group including Boulder Longmont and Boulder County and our housing authorities the city is also coordinating with the Boulder area re realtors association and they they've made a commitment to helping um landlords and vendor members um with uh with their tenants that they support our regional uh group is is working to understand the resources from the state and federal level and how to best deploy and leverage those resources as for prior prioritizing resources we want to tap the federal and state resources and their supports to the housing authorities and cities and counties through cdbg as well as the emergency uh Services Grant the stimulus checks and unemployment benefits um as well we're working hard to preserve um our unrestricted um funds both local and Phil Phil philanthropic funds to serve

[128:02] um uh those that are not able to um have access to federal and state assistance um the work is also included understanding the population need and supporting um how to provide them with assistance that they need including um um housing um our housing authorities as well as those with with vouchers and under represented uh individuals in our community what assistance they need and um and what what it is what's most efficient or what's the most efficient way to get those that assistance to them these conversations are currently underway um finally rental finally rental assistance will be provided um uh through the existing infrastructure of Family Resource Centers like EA and the housing authorities um any approach um around rental ass

[129:00] assistance um would um take into consideration the financial constraints and the needs of the renters and the property owners um I would urge um as this is a public forum I would urge everyone in the supply chain of housing to do what they can if they are are a renter I would encourage them to pay their rent and do everything possible uh to pay their rent if they're a property owner or a landlord I would encourage them to work with their tenants and reduce the rent um as much as needed based on on the needs of the tenants and as housing to Human Services we'll do all we can to coordinate the federal state and local resources um to our community next slide sorry to interrupt um Bob has a question sure thanks for that before you move off that slide um you mentioned um Family Resources um through EA um and I know EA has had a program for a few

[130:01] years called keep familyes house which the city has funded that provides um rental or mortgage assistance to families with children has has funding for that um increased or is there a proposal to increase funding for that particular program yes I'll actually get to that a little bit in the next couple of slides as well um however the answer is yes we've um Advanced them um uh funds that they were going to get later in the year so instead of getting you know their second trench they're getting actually much earlier and then through the coordination with our funding collaborative we're looking at additional funds that not just F may need but other organizations as well um but I'll I'll describe that a little little bit more um over the next two slides which will also be the end of my presentation thanks great Mark can you wait till the end or do you want to ask the question now Mark Wallock yeah I wanted to ask a

[131:02] question on the previous slide if I if I could um first Kurt thank you very much for this presentation it's terrific um with respect to the coordination between cities and housing authorities um do you have a sense of the time in as to when some of this will result in formal policies such as standards for triaging um or when the navigating assistance from federal state and and local authorities will actually result in some form of cash flow um what is your sense of the timing of all of this so um the funding collaborative meets on a daily basis and um also to address Bob's question a little bit um in fact there's a letter that went out a few minutes ago from the funding collaborative that I'll forward to you uh in the morning but $1.5

[132:00] million has gone out um over the last um week or week and a half thus far funding from the funding collaborative um our anticipation is probably sometime um uh next week or later next week we'll have a lot more information about the timing of the flow of funds okay thank you I appreciate it next slide see yeah there we go thank you Chris um so city city city staff is coordinating daily with the Boulder County funding collaborative as I just mentioned to ensure a coordinated and strategic sustainable approach to Distributing the resources to support um Housing St stability um but also food um security child care assistance uh behavioral and physical health services so it's not just around uh rents the city as well as the collaborative is

[133:00] using a tiered um investment approach with criteria to prioritize our resource decision making in coordination with partner agencies providing critical Community Support the the city's has expediated existing contract payments as of just mentioned four agencies have asked for and um appreciated receiving um their funding early most others are assessing their budgets currently um our HHS staff are routinely routine re routinely and directly in touch with our um local organizations um our next existing contract Scopes will be adjusted if necessary to reprogram existing funds um to support uh covid-19 related actions finally we will uh allocate additional funding as available prior prioritizing critical

[134:00] covid-19 um Direct Services however we're really looking to coordinate federal and state funding um first to understand what those holes are that need to be met through local funding next slide so our department works in many ways to reach out to the community to understand the needs um this includes uh um coordinated um uh Outreach to individuals and family clients so Chris this slide actually got in there I think I want to go to the next slide thank you that's perfect um so we're reaching out to to various um um individuals within our community um in our granes and other commun Community Partners um who turn to provide who who in turn provide the services um to our community we have been and will continue to focus much of our attention on community members who are Spanish speaking including

[135:01] monolingual Spanish speaking community members to make sure they have the information they need um for for these Services um this has been done through the translation of all information as well as reaching out to bilingual reporters and through our neighborhood leison staff at the city we're using cultural Brokers um within the communities um to reach out um to those individuals as well as we've been reaching out specifically to the mobile home communities that is the end of my presentation I'm open to questions thank you thank you Kurt um that that was a very thorough presentation I I have one question um over the last week or so we've gotten um briefings about what's in the cares package that just got

[136:01] passed um I do know that there's Community block grant um increases in there um and I think they may use slightly different criteria than what folks are used to and that's through HUD and so if you wanted to speak a little bit to when you think if you have any idea of when those applications might be open I think they're first come first served but then also there's are there any other pots of money that you expect to be coming forward due to the covid crisis uh yes there are um so the other thing that I can say is through our collaborations um we're working together on some of these applications to be more effective so for example the boulder um Boulder housing partners is collaborating with um Boulder County Housing Authority and the Long Mount housing authority to make um um joint applications to be more effective and to leverage more funds um I believe um

[137:03] there was about $2 million uh let me see here um yeah it's about $2 million I believe that BHP um is anticipating for um for some of the support um we're going to know more about this in the next few days but that group is actually working on those applications and understanding the criteria that you mentioned and how that fits within our community needs but I I anticipate that either later this week or certainly by the middle of next week we're going to have a lot more um information about that great well if you could keep us up to date the The Briefing that that I was received through one of the Mayors the national Mayors organization was that there was $2 billion for state and local HUD which is traditional and then there was a billion that was going to be run through the states itself and then another two

[138:00] billion that was going to be State and level but there would be covid factors associated with that covid impact factor so as you learn that if you could share it with us that would be great just because I think budgeting is going to be one of our big challenges going forward and anything that we feel like we have a shot at the better we know um absolutely thanks so I've I've um and then Mary had colqui what is the difference in criteria I think it's it's one of those buckets that has the covid part do you know of any other criteria difference um let me send that out tomorrow um I I do recall some of them but not right now okay very good and then I've got Adam and juny hey Kurt um if people are looking to donate in the community for things to go towards housing and food issues at this time can you just clarify what probably the best resources are at this point is it just EA um Bridge house you

[139:02] know what what are your suggestions um I would have two suggestions I would um support the um the organization that you have the um connection or you know emotional tie to that you volunteered at maybe in the past there's a lot of them in our organization that are doing this type of work right now um however the Community Foundation is part of the funding collaborative and they're they're acting as um a place for donations to both go and be distributed in more of a coordinated fashion so sometimes what happens in emergencies like this is some organizations are much better at fundraising than others but that's not NE necessarily a relationship to the need of the organization as well as the community that they're serving and that's part of the purpose of the funding collaborative and having the

[140:00] Community Foundation as part of that to be a participant in really looking at the overall needs of the community thank you K great juny hi Kurt I have two questions and I have for Jane and then one for C I don't know but it was on the previous presentation that Jane just gave so how do you want me to go about that um I'm why don't you go for it we'll see see if we can answer it so um well is James okay let me ask you your question first because you my first question to you because we talked last week and I don't want to sound like a broken record but I wanna ask you again because you've just talked about support to people who are renting and we talked about uh the mediation services uh that the city provided and I went online and I saw all the links for the county and I

[141:03] didn't see the link for the city and I was wondering um because we talked about it last week and I was wondering how come it's not up there as well with the county because I think that can be quite confusing to people to know okay the county ser are all there but our mediation services are not up there um well maybe I can address that before Jane I know on the covid on on the city's covid websites um the mediation services are up there um are you referring to the the County website no actually I went to our City's website and maybe I I must have looked in the wrong place because I was looking and I saw the counties uh all the counties information and I couldn't find or own U mediation uh Services link so if you said it's up there it's up there and thank you so much for this um for this feedback and letting me know um and I wanted to ask you another question and that's not for Jane that's for you

[142:00] because you talked about safe parking and you know I I am a I'm one of the proponent of the parking but I'm so worried right now because of covid and I wanted you to I know we're going to talk about that later do you know how many of our community members are living in their car and do we have the infrastructure because of covid to let's say provide proper sanitation because I would not want it to be a situation where instead of uh providing better services to people we end up hurting instead of helping so um I'm not aware of the sanitary services that we would have to support parking um and um I know when we when when Council looked at this uh three and a half years ago um I believe it was more focused on camping but it's still had the same requirement for providing um sanitary services um and I know it was there was

[143:03] a few pieces of land that could maybe potentially could have worked um but um uh there's there's certainly no ideal sites but any site that we looked at at that time three and a half years ago um required infrastructure services to be installed um the other thing that I'll mention you know related to that and there's also been a lot of conversation in the community about this so the um the the portable um um you know bathrooms throughout the community the service providers for that for the city um are are having a difficult time maintaining the ones that are already in place in Boulder in in the surrounding Community um they're focusing their um there uh their sanitizer on um supporting medical facilities the um um

[144:03] I know that our um um portable toilets are not serviced as often as they're supposed to because they do have capacity issues they're really not rolling out new facilities um at this time yes and I think my last question was for Jane I wanted to know um with the presentation of director's Jeff he talked about um he will be he might be able or he will be able to update us uh when it comes to the breakdowns and I wanted to know if it would be possible because we do get those daily updates and I'm very grateful for them and they're very insightful and helpful but I was wondering if they um if that up breakdown could also um be provided on Channel 8 or the phone update and also on our website yeah so as soon as we get that we'll certainly provide it to Council in the daily updates and we can put it on the website and I will also ask Patrick

[145:02] um if there are other media that would be appropriate to put that information on thank you you're welcome are there more questions for Kurt yeah Mark wallik uh Kurt um has has there been any special uh consideration or analysis been given to our manufactured home communities since if they face eviction they're facing the loss of their main asset in life um so their situation is is perhaps a little different than others um and we thought through any particular supports we might give to that community so um um one of our staff members Crystal lunder has been specifically reaching out to the um the the mobile home Community um as well as our cultural Brokers so um um a number of the individuals who live in the mobile home communities are um Spanish speaking so we've used our cultural

[146:01] Brokers to get the information out there about what services are available to them things like effa or where they can get food or um assistance with approaching Health Care um information that we would have on our website we're getting out to the mobile home communities through our cultural Brokers um there was also a flyer that went out to um this afternoon to some of the communities which um both in English and Spanish which gave an overview with the contacts of the various organizations that would be beneficial to them um to help them through this thank you okay any other questions Mary I think okay so Mary says could we get that flyer um yes I will I will send it to you maybe even during the call after I get off

[147:00] here okay very good thank you thank you great so the next is AET Bowden who is assistant city manager and Community Vitality director will address the great work she's been doing with our business partners AET good evening coun thank you for that Jane can you all hear me I hope um so we can go to the next slide thanks Chris last week I introduced you all to the fact that we've been working with many um outstanding economic Vitality Partners in the region um in the past week I just wanted to point out it's been a very hectic week since Council last met federal government passed the um Co first the next Co Aid package that $2.2 trillion package that the mayor referred to and it's called the cares act we've been very busy in coordination around that in an now meeting more than once a week uh the city is providing the facilitation and coordination as well as

[148:00] administration of those meetings in three subcommittees Outreach and organization uh development and resource provision and prioritization and then Communications and marketing we can go to the next slide very quick in the past week and I'm going to speak a little bit more about this we've been focused on that Federal funding package tracking and coordination um the SBA uh debrief and review of what I'll refer to in a couple minutes regarding paycheck um protection plan sorry for that it says payroll but it's really paycheck Protection Program and the application process we are working with the banking criteria uh for the lending institutions through SBA and developing assistance resources to help people get through what we already are aware are complicated application processes we want to make this as simple as we can for the community and for business owners of all sizes and across

[149:01] all Industries and we are working across uh all Partners to get that done I also want to let Council know that the city itself owns um several properties that are that have commercial tenants and over the past week in coordination with Community Vitality fam and Parks and Recreation we've reached out and offered um to delay uh rental payments and spread those out a payment plan uh for our commercial tenants and all of our properties and that was very well received I mentioned last week that there are free webinars being hosted by the Small Business Development Center uh we've had over um and I really want to congratulate our partner on this over close to 400 series registrations and in the first session there were almost 300 attendees uh there'll be two more sessions and we're still working on content together um there may be a change to the last one that we really want to work on more of these applications and so um that uh is

[150:01] important to stay in touch with all of the links I'm talking about are on the city's website Kurt mentioned the fundraising that the Community Foundation is uh working on with the funders network for safety net nonprofit organizations and they are actively fundraising um they have already issued 14 uh grants under that program and are currently under review for the next set we continue to promote ongoing business support uh everything from takeout meals that are still available to the importance of right now community members uh supporting a gift certificate purchases and the like um significant Outreach in the past week and a half to restaurant tours the CVB with the hotel and hospitality industry which I'm sure you're aware um is significantly impacted as well and the Chamber and of course ongoing coordination with the governor's office and Congressional offices in the county we can go to the

[151:00] next slide so there are two very important updates and Council may already be aware of this but we wanted to make the community aware of this and particularly businesses there are two early opportunities under this cares package that people need to to know about one has an open application right now and one is coming very shortly these are two separate applications you cannot apply for them with one application under the economic injury disaster Loan program there is now something called the idle advance so at the bottom of the eidl application that's available through the city's website and the SBA website there is a prompt that asks if you need an advance that provides $110,000 for qualifying small businesses including qualifying nonprofits it does not require the applicant to ultimately accept the loan if approved this is very important because this is an existing

[152:00] program that people can apply for today that are cash-based um for very very small businesses um all the city links and information about who qualifies the application process is all there but we did want to pass along that you don't have to actually accept the debt loan if you're approved but this qualifying 10K is very important because if you're denied it turns into a grant very important for small businesses to know that the second is coming very fast and was mentioned before in a payroll protection plan loan these are loans um they're in Avenue for what we call larger small employers let's say around 500 or or Beyond 500 this is outside of what uh the aidol loans have been calling small businesses the applications could be open later this week but we're safely saying within the next week um it will be processed

[153:01] through SBA active lending institutions we've had a lot of calls today uh to the Small Business Development Center and our offices regarding a list of those lending institutions please know that the spdc um the chamber all of our partners will be getting this information as soon as we can what we are recommending at this point is that people um or or organizations and businesses of all sizes should be checking with their own um banking uh institution right now and asking them whether or not they plan to participate in these payroll protection plan Lo loan programs that will help them kind of understand how and kind of get in the queue uh for assist we know that these processes can be very challenging for businesses I wanted to point out a couple things that are not on my slide but uh just show the extra effort of some of our partners um at spdc they have added additional capacity

[154:02] and the city is helping to support that and um three of the 12 people that Sharon has on her team are Spanish speaking we are working to um look for and see if we can get additional assistant and the city and chamber and spdc hope to be working over the next uh week or so to perhaps provide a video or something that people can click on to walk them through the application process next slide um last week uh Council was also interested in I think it was council member wallak on really understanding the true scale of the economic impact not just perceptions of the impact but but what is actually happening in the businesses in response to that staff has been working with our partners and and frankly colleagues and at least four other departments which we appreciate greatly on 20 questions that we are

[155:00] prepared to issue in the morning to all registered business holders in Boulder last week they received a letter um from myself um on behalf of all of our partners letting them know that this was coming and letting and reminding all of them of this City's website and all our partner websites that are available to them tomorrow morning or sometime during the day this uh survey will be going out in English and Spanish there are four inquiry areas general information about the Business Financial impacts worker impacts and future dependencies and what we mean by that is a couple of questions that help us gauge which we're doing with the planning department as well um if this goes on for two months what does that mean to your business if it goes on for more than that what does that mean to your business and really getting a feel for the true amount of workers impacted businesses in temporary closure

[156:00] or the like and what that means this is go there this will be partnered with um all of our partners doing coordinated Outreach so once we hit send all of our partners will then go out with similar notice to their memberships to say you just got an email email please fill this out um all of the responses will be confidential and will be reported to council um as part of the study session on April 28th um we do not know obviously what our rate of return will be this is a purely online application um but we are hopeful that we'll get a lot of attention for this it's critical information in responding to council's earlier questions and helping um not only the city but all of our partners appreciate how we can be of the best assistance sorry to interrupt marike has a comment sure I just Evette I just wanted to thank you for doing this I think that's really critical information and will help guide us uh going forward

[157:00] so thank you again thank you next slide so I know you're anxious to hear more from my colleagues charl and Katie but before you do I just want to tell you what we'll be doing next and remind everyone of the business resources web page uh again on April 28th as part of your um study session on the local economic impact you will get a report on the business impacts with the aggregated results we will continue to Monitor and align with all federal state and peer Community initiatives um there is ongoing effort to communicate safe operation and safe practices we know there have been a lot of emails about that and so we're doing what we we can um through our partners as well to remind people that are operating under the order how to do so safely respecting social distancing we are connecting businesses and workers to all currently available Assistance

[158:01] programs I did want to also mention it's not on this slide but last week um I believe council members got a notice about how many um commercial landlords um you know properties were under that resolution that they proposed and suggested and I just wanted to let you know there have been 97 additional properties added to that list over the past week most uh many of which are in the flat iron industrial area so I know you had interest in that I just wanted to share that and finally um we want to make sure that as these things are reliefed people are remembering that there are continuing packages um the next round being considered in Washington uh we are all participating in those calls and updating all of our web pages regularly the idol application is open now there is a link um so that advanced application is on the city's business resources web page the other application we

[159:01] anticipate um after these conversations with the lenders will be available within the next couple of days or a week and exploring provision of virtual coaching obviously these applications are complicated and we want to make sure that people have as much resources as POS possible in navigating that process again at the bottom here is a link to the city's web page I do want to point out that if you take off the last portion of that business resources you'll get to the city's broader web page with resources for the entire community and with that I think that's my last slide thank you thank you um Mary young has a question thank you V appreciate appreciate everything that you've done um I'm sure it has been exhausting so thank you very much um I have a question with respect to the idle um loan that $10,000 Max loan um is that that $10,000

[160:02] is that to be used exclusively on business related um expenses so it's actually pretty complicated and I don't want to leave people with the impression that it's only a $10,000 loan the amount you can get for the loan is actually far more comprehensive um and it does have a broader uh Spectrum than has been shared before um the whole listing of qualifications in an FAQ is on our web page the portion that I mentioned is the Advan portion um and this really does behave especially if you're declined more like a grant uh that does not have to be repaid so the reason we want people to be aware of that is we know it is a loan application however if you are declined let's say your business is um uh does not you know you know it does apply further than uh what people have been used to in the past I have some

[161:00] notes here from the spdc I'm just going to refer to that so you do have a much larger area available to you what we are um if you're denied in the idol loan then the 10,000 Advance becomes a grant so I just wanted to point that out did I answer your question Mary um so if it turns into a grant that means that it can be used on whatever the needs are of the individual who gets it true but I think in the loan application process I want to be very careful this is all unfolding very rapidly and each application is quite complicated I would encourage that people look at the uses that are actually listed on the FAQ on the city's website and the SBA website okay thank you very much thank you are there other questions for AET I

[162:02] don't see any here okay okay great well so now we're on thanks AET thank you appreciate it on to the financial update and let me introduce Cheryl patelli our Chief Financial Officer and Katie Doling our executive budget officer I think Katie was going to go first I am thank you thanks Jane uh Chris you can go to the next slide so good evening um we're going to start tonight off with some e economic impacts of covid-19 from a Global Perspective um although we don't have recent historical comparisons when understanding the economic imp implications China's early experience can provide us some valuable Insight so in January and February when when China was reaching the height of its outbreak retail sales fell more than 20% and we actually anticipate the us will have a sharper fall than China since the service industry comprises nearly 20% more of the US GDP than in China at a national level you know we've

[163:02] seen in recent weeks record 3.3 million Americans file unemployment claims the highest record um in history major financial institutions such as Goldman Sachs UBS and the D bake have provided e IC forecast but you can see on the slide that they are a wide range of anticipated impacts and then also as evet mentioned last week the Senate um reached an agreement for the third covid relief package that would inject nearly $2 trillion dollar into the US economy more the state and local level although Boulder was largely spared from the economics of the Great Recession we predict that the current situation will be significantly different so we mean by that is that Boulder's primary businesses are in small retail shops restaurants and bars all of which that have been forced to partially close or fully close and we don't have a community where we have a big box stores that may be seeing increase in traffic um moreover the loss of 30,000 students who are traditionally in town until May

[164:01] and the loss of um 50 to 60,000 Inc commuters will compound the effects of covid related shutdowns and we project further deflate our sales tax revenue next slide so we wanted to recognize that while sales and use tax will surely see a significant decline there are other sources um such as development related fees or taxes charges for service so this is our parks and wreck fees our court fines our parking Revenue will be impacted as well as accommodations um or admission taxes these revenues um combined are roughly 70% of our overall Revenue when you exclude utilities and while we don't anticipate seeing uh any impact in 2020 for property tax or occupation taxes we're certainly um cognizant that the 20121 budget may be affected by property taxes and values of homes so before diving into assumptions

[165:01] um as you've heard from a lot of the speakers tonight it's really important that we're expressing that because of the uniqueness of this crisis and because of the timing and it's early on it has been really incredibly difficult for us to project impacts and so tonight we're really hoping to provide initial data points recognizing that each day changes the projections and really um Gathering your questions tonight to um provide more in depth analysis for the April 28th uh study session next slide so we looked at three different scenarios um while scenario one's likely too optimistic it was important to kind of demonstrate the effect of what just two months of significant declines occur so we projected some of our major Revenue sources to be anywhere between 50 and 80% down in March and April it assumes that by kind of May June time frame we're back on the track of um 2019 revenues but again um it's important

[166:02] that the average of this range is probably between n five and N oh five and 9% but really overall 8.1% down in major Revenue sources even in the most optimistic scenario scenario 2 builds on scenario one um it has a slightly significant decline in May so really kind of three more months uh versus two months with a slower recovery but getting back towards our 2019 Revenue projections uh in the third quarter of the Year overall um again the range is between 8 and 16% but the average is around uh minus 13.5% in major Revenue sources scenario three three um and it's also to point out this may not be the worst scenario we could run a 100 of them but we just picked this one as a starting point has significant declines for those three months March through May and then a slow recovery but that we still are looking at um year-over-year

[167:02] declines in a lot of the uh major Revenue sources to the tune of 5 to 10% again um range is about 11 to 20% decline uh average is 17.1% this does include increases in certain sectors so we do know that there's been some you know stocking up effect within the retail sales tax categories and then also when we get to some of the projection numbers I wanted to note that we've worked closely with the um CVB to understand Hotel Trends kind of based upon the experience in China and you'll see that the assumptions vary a little bit um from these scenarios when you look at hotel specific trending next slide so lots of numbers on this chart but I think um what's important to know here is this is really a subsect of all revenues there's certainly others that'll be affected um important to know

[168:01] that even in the scenarios retail sales tax or retail yeah sales tax um is pretty significantly hit even in the best scenario it' be down 6% um ranging all the way up to 11% in kind of our scenario three use tax is really hard to predict as many of you know we set a pretty conservative base budget for that so what scenario one says is that we meet our base budget but that um in scenario two and three we actually dip below that base budget worked closely with Parks and Recreation to understand what the closures look like um in their recreation centers and their programs and services again arrang anywhere between a million and $2 million um important to note here that the recreation activity fund is solely reliant on these fees or general fund support and so it's really important that um they start to figure out ways to

[169:01] reduce expenses to manage that fund another important factor is parking meters and fines so as you can imagine with shops closed we also won't see um people parking and so enforcements increased as well as just the meter revenue and the garage Revenue Court finds while a small amount it was important to note that you know because we don't have any tickets being issued right now and um Court isn't in session that there is revenue loss for that and that goes directly to the general fund for Accommodations Tax so again you'll notice the change between scenario one and scenario three isn't that significant compared to the other Revenue sources so in working with Maryann Mahoney and her team um it really when an impact hits the hotel industry it really takes it a very long time to recover from it both in terms of room rates um but also room occupancy so these are the numbers that they um support and anticipate based

[170:02] upon the experience they saw in China they worked with seeing how long it took from the first diagnosed case until um the first kind of turnaround of occupancy rates which I believe was about 100 days um and modeled some of their scenarios after that again this is another general fund Revenue um and then industry earnings is kind of based upon some experience that we have as well um kind of a wide range but this hits all funds um next slide please Chris so all of those revenues kind of translate into um some impact by fund you'll notice on here a lot of them are sales and use tax related just because that is a big um hit to our Revenue Source again a subset of funds compared to a subset of revenues really shows the order of magnitude here um for any of those funds in the first scenario being

[171:02] between 4 and 9% I will note here that transportation is going to be hit significantly more because not only are they largely relying on sales and use tax but they also have the highway users tax or the gas tax which is being significantly impacted so they're definitely going to see a big hit um and you guys could just run through those numbers but obviously a lot of sales and Ed tax funds that are needing to start to have conversations around um what to do not only in 2020 but in 2021 which is where I will shift over to Cheryl thank you Katie good evening mayor and members of Council Chris would you mind uh advancing thank you so uh tonight I'm in the next few slides I'm going to talk about the types of strategies that we are considering to help us get through this challenging time and we really see it as a mix of

[172:00] strategies we don't think there's one uh strategy alone that that will help us through this downturn and certainly this is what we have now we're still working on this and there will be more to come uh the first we're going to talk about our sources of um sources of funds or revenue and the first two use of emergency reserves and use of the 2019 excess fund balance I'll get to in the next couple slides we talked tonight about the cares act and again more information will come in the coming weeks about that as well as the April 28th study session Chris would you want thank you so this slide our first St strategy which is of course a one-time strategy is looking at our reserves and we've talked about our reserves a lot over the years and just so you uh know the uh government Finance Officers Association and standard and pores both

[173:01] recommend as a minimum Reserve level 16% and then they say depending on your vulnerabilities you should go up from there so for example the fact that we are to fires floods those types of things would dictate that we should have something more than 16% so right now um we have our major funds on this slide we have what the current emergency res or current Reserve level is the general fund as you know is at 19.5% but you'll notice that some of our funds aren't even at the minimum 16% that I talked about and that has been something that we've been working on on over the past several years um to get these Reserve levels to to increase the uh so we also the second column gives you what that percentage equates to in dollars and the third column is if we were to use the strategy

[174:02] of reducing our reserves to 15% how much one-time money would that equate to and why we think 15% that we shouldn't go below 15% there's really a few um different reasons for that number one we still are prone to uh natural disasters here in Boulder we also at this point don't know how long this um period of downturn is going to last if if you saw one of Katie's slides most recent people are saying this could take two to three years to recover so we we feel at this time to go much lower than 15 would be be pretty um um dangerous thing to do so if we use the the fourth column if we do use our reserves and we we bring them down to the 15% those funds that were able to do that you will

[175:00] see if we're using the third scenario that Katie provided which we actually think is a likely scenario it certainly can be better it can be worse but we feel it's it's fairly likely given what we've heard we're still uh have a pretty significant shortfall in all of our funds Chris could you advance thank you so that's the First Source is is bringing our reserves down the second uh source that we are looking at of funds that we could use to help us through this downturn is our excess Revenue that we had in 2019 so luckily 2019 was a good year especially as it relates to our sales and use taxes and what this chart shows um is the amount that we were actually over our budgeted amount in these different types of Revenue I think what's really important to point out as well on this chart is the large

[176:01] percentage of Revenue that we get from retail sales tax and Katie talked about the fact that that's one area that's going to be hit really hard during this crisis and interestingly enough um yes grocery stores over the first few weeks of the pandemic were up a lot um I just read an article that for the first time since the pandemic started uh Walmart Costco and Target on in the third week of March were actually down from last year so um it is something that we are monitoring and we will be giving you more information when we come back in April next slide so this takes the same information about our 2019 excess fund balance or excess revenues and breaks it out by fund and we wanted to show you we were over in sales and use tax in the general fund but we actually were under budget in uh property tax so the net effect is

[177:03] about 3.9 million next slide and what this uh chart does it takes uh using both of those two uh sources I just spoke about bringing reserves down to 15% using all of the excess uh revenue from 2019 we totaled that in the third column and as you can still see in the fourth column if we just use our third scenario we still are going to be below budget or I'm sorry we still will be have a gap that we need to fill so that brings us to our next slide which is Cheryl start to interrupt oh no problem I just wanted to make sure that the previous slide was the scenario three uh correct okay thank you yep so um then the other side of the coin that we always need to look at in a

[178:01] situation like this is expenditures and how can we manage our and reduce expenditures so we made a um quick decision so far a one-time 2020 uh reduction of costs by imposing a hiring hold on standard non-essential employees that uh I believe went into place a couple weeks ago so we have a lot of vacancies and those that we are considering non- essential we're just not going to fill for now and see how this plays out we certainly know we have key positions in um essential uh positions that we will be continuing to fill throughout the year and then we are exploring several other things as we move forward onetime money um we're evaluating the need for seasonal and temp employees so this time of year we hire hundreds of seasonal employees uh and we are looking at the

[179:03] types of employees we hire so for instance if someone is a landscape maintenance employee we are still going to need that service it it really is an essential service for us but there are a lot of other employees who are tied to programs that may not be happening and we we need to be evaluating how we're going to handle those seasonal employees we're also reviewing um capital and operating projects and looking for projects that could be delayed either to later or perhaps uh next year and Beyond so we've ask departments to come up with lists of both capital and some operating project projects that they feel they may be able to delay we're exploring additional one-time budget reductions for 2020 um these uh this can be various things I've heard other communities are looking at Travel um training we really

[180:01] need to be careful on the types of reductions that we are suggesting so at this point we we don't have anything um solid on that but we are looking at different types of things that we can do to help save uh money during this crisis and then uh the covid related expenses so not only do we have the downturn in Revenue but we're going to have additional expenses related to covid we hope many of those will get reimbursed through the Care Act we don't know yet so um we of course no matter even if they do get reimbursed the city is has to upfront the cost so we're making sure that we quantify these expenses and come up with a funding strategy to cover those um hopefully just in the short term and then as we look um ahead like I mentioned uh the varying forecast of

[181:00] this economic contraction we are looking at ongoing budget and service reductions both in 2021 and certainly during the uh I'm sorry both in 2020 but also during the 2021 budget preparation so we'll be working with the different departments on these areas as well um Chris thank you and I'm G to turn it over to Katie to finish us up with next steps um so lots of information tonight again we um fortunately had already prepared for our April 28th study session these are all the topics we're hoping to hit on and love to hear our thought thoughts about it or additional items you'd like to see us look at um again in no particular order but by April 28th we should have um more information on our March sales and use tax remittance that we can share with Council um we'll hopefully know by then in addition to some um hiring holds what

[182:02] other uh budget actions we've taken for 2020 preview into 2021 budget development and what it really looks like per fund for potential reductions we also hope um to present this budgeting for Community resilience which is a grant that the um Finance team in conjunction with a lot of departments and our innov Innovation team worked on that can hopefully help us start to um align with what our essential services are and come up with a mechanism for really evaluating our programs um especially in light of reductions then as many of you guys know we have been doing phase one of the financial strategy study committee they will be coming forward with some of their recommendations and um as event mentioned just a second ago we will be providing the results of that business impact survey so that is what Cheryl and I had for tonight and we're happy to take questions many of which we may need to um punt for April

[183:01] 28th so I have well thank you for that both Cheryl and Katie this was quite useful very important and timely um there are two questions we have one from Aaron and one from me yeah thanks so much that that was extremely helpful and I just wanted to sort of place that information frame it a little bit so you're talking about how we might make up shortfalls but right now you're just you're presenting rough scenarios correct I mean there's no plan to start shifting funds around or spending reserves or things like that you're just giving us a kind of an outline over what things might look like is that is that correct yeah sure yeah and so when white when might we start making those decisions I guess the April 28th is our next significant check-in point is is that when we're going to talk a little bit more about next financial steps that's exactly right and you know should we come upon information

[184:01] somewhere in between there that signifies that we need to make dras or quicker um decisions I think certainly we'll have opportunities breach Council but at this time without really knowing um much about J January February or March sales or tax remittance it's kind of a shoot in the dark uh right now with some you know fairly reasonable estimates just of um initial impacts for one or two months but we will need to be taking actions and the sooner we do it the um better great thanks for that and I just one comment I'll make on it is that like you presented you know how much reserves we might spend or not spend and I think when the time comes comes it's really going to be a judgment call based on what services we're we're looking at losing or what additional support we want to offer to community members in need right so those those will be the trade-offs that we'll have to make when the time comes and it'll be very much

[185:00] not an abstract conversation about numbers and very much a a concrete conversation about what what are we losing or what could we gain thank you great so m question is the the funding from the cares Grant that's going to um local uh funding in Colorado is going to come through the governor's office you know four counties that were above 500,000 in population can apply directly the feds bless you um the other um monies will flow through the governor's office so who are our contacts at the governor's office to try and figure out what will be covered and what won't can we pre-spin and be backfilled you know some of the mountain communities have started supporting their local businesses and I don't think um we're on the the point of being able to do that right now because we don't

[186:00] know what would be covered and what wouldn't be covered and so I guess my my real question is who and how are we in contact with so that we can learn that as soon as we can because to eron's point we might if we knew for sure that we would be covered with certain rental support programs or business support programs um that were separate from the money flowing through the small business administration we might want to think about that and so how are you finding out what the the um state is going to do so I'm gonna jump in just quickly I was in contact with Kevin bomber today of the Colorado Municipal league and Kevin and his colleagues at Colorado County Inc are working really tightly with the governor's office and with the state to figure out how they are going to divide the money the thing that that you said Sam and that we need to put an emphasis on is that there are four large counties that are guaranteed to get dollars but

[187:02] no other County and no other city is guaranteed to get anything the state is the one that is going to decide um whether or not the state keeps all the money whether or not they share it with the counties and then whether or not cities will get anything so it's going to be a bit of a long road before we know anything what Kevin told me today is that the state has been silent on this right now I think they're probably scrambling to try to figure out how to make um decisions around this and so it it's not going to happen in the very near future so I just want to caution the council about making early DEC decisions before we know if we're going to get money and what we would get back filled for also a thing that's important to know is that I believe the car's money is focused on covid related expenses and and as you pointed out we don't know if our giving grants or

[188:02] rental payments would be considered covid related expenses or if it's going to be things instead like setting up the co Recovery Center so we have to be careful about that and I appreciate your question great thank you I just want to put it into context for Council because I probably haven't had a chance to share it this way but um the you know the Caris package itself is a two trillion dollish package and the part that we're talking about is the local support so and local support the four counties in Colorado that are above 500,000 people can apply direct for support to the federal government and those four counties are Denver um Adams uh El Paso and sorry rapon not Adams Denver Adams Jefferson and El Paso outside of those four counties and they can apply for up to a billion dollars in

[189:01] funding directly so they're capped under the cares act at a billion dollars but Colorado will get $2.2 billion dollar but that billion dollars the four counties can apply for up to that cap takes away from the 2.2 billion so the amount of remaining money should the four counties max out their um federal dollars would be 1.2 billion that would go to the state and what Jane says is true they do not have to share that with counties and cities but just so Council here's kind of the scope that we're talking about right now um I had not realized until this week that the number that the four counties could receive was up to a billion dollars it had been spoken spoken to me that it was a much smaller number so it's perhaps even half of what's coming from cares to local governments in Colorado so we have other questions um Mary and then Bob and then Adam yeah thank you for all those

[190:01] presentations um my question is about the very first slide that Katie presented that showed the three scenarios Chris are you going to go back to it or do you want to okay I think that was it yes um I want to make sure that I understand um the the percentages in the SEC in the in the second and the third um bullet points in some of the scenarios so I understand the the 50 to 80% and declines and then um then there's the8 minus 8.1 minus 13.5 and the minus 17.1 and I understanding that those

[191:03] percentages are the ones that the percentage down that we would be for the whole budget the whole um operating budget yeah so those take in those major Revenue sources that I you know highlighted um on prior slides around sales tax Accommodations Tax so again not all revenues but on our major revenues based upon some early indications predictions when you compound those all together year-over-year we would be down 88.1% in those Revenue sources or 13.5 okay great and then um in the in scenario three you have that five to 10% um so it what does that 5 to 10% mean so that means um you know after May so unlike the other two scenarios where we get back up to 2019 re revenues maybe

[192:01] not an increase over there this that means that for June through December we still see declines of revenues year-over-year anywhere between 5 and 10% um somewhat indicating a recession at that point so for the entire year not for just that half of the year or that few months after this is this first phase of what we're going through is over correct for the rest of the year okay um thank you I just wanted to make sure I thank you for it and then Adam had a followup on Mary's question oh hold it no he said it was answered Bob yeah I guess my my question is probably more of a comment um so this is a great presentation we really appreciate you guys pulling this together quickly and presumably um as April progresses you're going to learn more or your assumptions will become more refined and the News will either get better or worse um and I guess I want to invite uh Katie and and Cheryl

[193:01] to to check back in with Council before the 28th of April if you've got different information to share well I guess we'll just operate under under these assumptions for the time being but I would I guess what I'm saying is I wouldn't wait until April 28th to share new information especially if it gets worse and I guess my second comment um would be to Jane um Jane if you need to do something and I'm just speaking for myself other council members can agree or disagree if you need to do something as far as um changing Services reducing Services making other adjustments um on the on on on operations before the 28th of April I don't want you to feel constrained uh against doing that I don't want to put a put a date out there the 28th of April and all decisions will have to wait until then so I guess I would just speaking for myself would say that I want to make sure that Jane feels empowered to make whatever adjustments in Services she needs to uh even before Council um meets on the

[194:00] 28th thank you any other Council Mark Wallock has a question um yeah um have you taken a look at essentially what would be a scenario four in which we are in full out recession for the remainder of the year um one Investment Bank is now projecting unemployment of 15% in the second quarter and I don't know that that would result in even slow recovery for the remainder of the year um and so I I guess I'm asking if you've taken a look at at uh an even more um difficult scenario we haven't um the way the model set up it's fairly easyish I think what we wanted to do is just put out some information for ranges um and then work

[195:01] towards it I will say from a um unemployment standpoint Boulder tends to Fair slightly better than state or national averages so that's certainly a factor to consider too okay thanks I just wanted to raise the subject yep yeah like Cheryl said we know this may not be the worst thing this may eventually be ideal yes well on that cheerful note um I think I will thank you for your presentation and uh turn it back over to Jane so thanks Sam um on the agenda this was the co briefing that we intended to provide and so my um belief is that we're ready to go on to the next item on the agenda and then later in the evening you were going to come back and make further questions or discussions about other items is that correct I believe so I mean the way we have it in our agenda is work plan

[196:01] discussion and then other uh response discussion and I have some sub buckets I'll propose here and then we'll ask council do you want to make any more appointments um yes or no and then there can be a few minutes at the very end whatever time that happens to be uh discussion of future Council meetings and study sessions and then open comment right does that sound right it does okay so staff doesn't have anything for the work plan discussion or any of those do you have um the bullet points we had talked about before or should we just go ahead so um so Lynette would be the one I understand to have the bullet points or maybe it's Chris that we can put up on the work plan yeah let me work on pulling up those thanks Chris great well Chris will you pull that up I'm GNA say that it's been another hour and a half a little

[197:01] more so why don't we take a three or four minute break everybody walk around Chris will get this pulled up and we'll come back at like 10 till or so that sound good thank you see you in a [Music] minute [Music]

[199:30] invite everyone to do staff and Council alike is these meetings are new for us right they're virtual and so they have a different kind of Rhythm to them typically during a council meeting council members and staff can get up and go take a break when they need to and that's a little harder here um in the sense that there's no television playing in the break room so you can see what's going on and so on and so forth so I would take suggestions from people about how they would like to see these run I'm experimenting this time with short

[200:01] breaks pretty short three minutes between um the the different segments but if there are other ideas people have I'm all ears because this is all new to us so with that um Chris uh if you want to at least walk us through your your questions about the work plan and we can talk about that yeah I don't think Chris needs to be the leader of it I just wanted him to the the sign up so on to the next slide Chris is there another slide yeah so um what CAC did on Monday is we went through the council agendas for the next about five or six weeks and we know that there are a couple of items that were on the agendas most recently but that CAC thought were not important based upon the comments that Council made last week so here are a list of those so the first one is the dockless Bike Share licensing program we do need to extend that or take an action on it

[201:03] no later than July 21st but obviously that's several months away so we can wait the osmp Land Management recommendations incl cluding prairie dog management uh we are hoping that we could bring this back to Council in the third quarter so what we can talk about whether or not that's soon enough or or not soon enough we'll see um then the criminal code changes regarding obstruction you're going to see on a consent agenda item the criminal code changes that were proposed but there's one part of a about obstructing a police officer that we've taken out of there and we ar aren't bringing forward because it really isn't a consent agenda item so we'll bring those back at some point in the future then of course you've been talking a lot about the library services including possibly the creation of a library district and that had originally been scheduled for March 17th and May 5th the CAC has taken it

[202:04] off completely and so that's an one that remains unscheduled then uh you've been talking about initiative petitions and tentatively CAC put that on for April 14th and then 20 is plenty is one that we'd like to bring to the transportation Advisory board for their recommendation about how to proceed and then bring that recommendation to Council on April 21st so those items are the pending items that we've got on the agendas and I don't know if we want to talk about those right now or just sort of go through through the rest of the meetings but but once we pass this particular slide it's just sort of meeting after meeting so I am at your disposal about how you want to handle this discussion so my input is I'm glad you

[203:00] highlighted this to us so these are the the questions that we need to to look into I will have one question I know that the criminal code comes up under consent um so we're not going to see um prairie dog Management on the future um agendas correct is that off completely it will be off but then we'll be bringing it back as we start filling up the agendas for the third quarter so okay so that second bullet is informational to us yeah we will see the third bullet in a consent agenda except for except for the obstruction right but the rest of what what you're hoping to get done so we'll see that one could could I add that we're also going to take out the parking thing I had forgotten that you had there was a 72-hour parking exemption for trailers and then the the council had made a decision on which way to go on that so we're just going to we'll bring that back later as well thank you Tom

[204:01] and then on Library services that is gone now correct so if we if Council wants to keep it at the moment it's just not on a future agenda is that correct yeah that's right that's what CAC asked for yeah no that's right and then initiative petitions is that currently still scheduled for April 14th yes you added it not you but CAC added it um for that meeting because of the situation with the virus and people not being able to get U inperson signatures got it so we'll see that and then 20 is plenty for April 21st um we will see that as well so the only thing I'm trying to flag here on these bullets is something we won't see at a future item so um Bob has a correction on library and then Aaron would like to speak yeah I think on on Library there were actually two meetings

[205:00] one which was already passed and obviously we didn't take it up um because we were right in the middle of the ramp up for this but then there's also I believe a placeholder and we'll get to I think it was on May 5th I'm doing this from memory for a possible public hearing on the library district so I think we will act we will actually get to a discussion on the library when we get if we get that far into the calendar okay very good but I don't think so actually I think that at CAC you asked us to remove the library from May 5th and we've done that and you'll see that as we go through okay and and instead we're wondering what we want to do about marpa house and Hill hotel which were also on May 5th thanks for that clarification J great and just so Council knows what I'm trying to do here is I'm trying to flag things on this slide that are not going to come up if we go through meeting by meeting and so that will be prairie dogs and Library Services everything else will see and I go over here we've got Aaron and then

[206:03] Adam so um thanks for all that I I think that that generally all looks good I I just want to say that on the library I I don't think it's something that we should be taking up in the next couple of months I'm perfectly happy to see that but just want to reserve the option to bring it back up you know say in the summer perhaps um when things settle out a little bit great Adam and then Mary yeah so in CAC we discussed what we're looking for or what staff specifically was looking for in the 20 years plenty um April 21st meeting and I was wondering if we could get that clarification just so everyone on Council knows what we were going for there and and Adam I appreciate that but I think we'll see it as we go through the calendar going forward got it okay thanks we can cover that right there Mary just unmuting myself here

[207:01] um so to a certain extent you mentioned the marpa house and the hill hotel and so my question about the hill hotel that's for the um concept plan review right yes it's uh at the last meeting you called it up and okay so I just want to be clear that that's what the the Hill Hotel was and then um marpa house that would have that was scheduled for a hearing wasn't it yeah a couple of months ago and then it went into I remission I don't know what how was to say it and we were trying to figure out whether or not it needs to come back and Chris mjuk may have more information about Mar house when we get there okay um so just a thought that I had and I'll put it out there so others can be thinking about this is that um there may be quite a bit of community input on both of those both the mara house and um the hill hotel and we may

[208:02] want to just have some tentative plans um based on how the public input process goes on um April 7th so just putting that out there yep and we will we will see them as we go through the calendar so the the things I would ask if Council has comments or concerns about either prairie dogs or the library district you won't see them again in the ensuing um conversation so speak now about those because they won't come up again so I do have just a comment on the Pari dogs um we do want to get through that this year and that'll be the goal just want to be clear on that trying to bring it back in the fall correct yes um yeah the dates that we

[209:01] are looking at right now are at the end of September which is the end of the third quarter that should give us enough time to have the conversation and then that would also give staff the ability to start the work whatever you decided they should be doing in 2021 okay thank you okay I guess we move on to the next slide okay so um here is April 7th what we have assumed is that the very first thing on all of these agendas would be the covid-19 briefing and we've been speaking with Jeff Zak and Rob vissers and they are interested in continuing to come to our meetings so there it's very gracious of them the next item that we put on there is open comment and you have not yet decided to do open comment it's was actually a conversation to have later this evening but we wanted to show you where it would

[210:01] fit into the agenda um and it works better for us with regard to the public participation and the technology that we're using to have it come at this point um as instead of before the covid briefing then we have a few consent agenda items thanks J if I could interrupt briefly um CAC tentatively decided that we would do open comment the first and third um just our normal meetings and not the second and fourth so that's what you'll see reflected here though that's not a final decision in any way right um Okay so we've got a couple couple of consent agenda items um one of them is the extension of the oil and gas moratorium which we think is not controversial the second reading of the emergency um extension of the electric scooter moratorium which you passed on first reading last week we have one public hearing and we know that this

[211:01] isn't the most important thing that council is doing but we wanted to have a public hearing so that we can test out our technology um and so that will be a good test drive for for public participation as well as open open comment will and then finally we have for a long time scheduled the city-wide retail strategy review on this meeting what CAC requested is that it be a very short presentation really supported by a memo and that in fact on April 28th when AET is bringing back the business survey results that that will definitely inform the future of the Citywide retail strategy so we we think that it's still relevant now and we want to give you an update on it but it will not be a long discussion and so that's what CAC decided for April 7th and I have a suggestion here I don't think we said it explicitly but just as we have a

[212:02] covid-19 briefing at the beginning of each meeting with questions perhaps under matters um from mayor and city council we should have a covid-19 discussion and we can tee up what is part of that discussion based on what we learn what's going on um but maybe it's worth having a placeholder there if the answer is we don't need to say anything then we just don't bring it up but it might be worth just noting that does council if anyone on Council disagrees let me know so Mary asked what kind of discussion do you envision well I think it will change based on what we've learned um in the previous weeks some things that it might Envision are um how are we doing with cases versus beds um how you know how is Boulder tracking versus the state as far

[213:02] as the numbers go we we all have that information from the briefing but what does that mean to us and then I think what the big discussion will will be for a long time here is going to be around um what we learn about the cares act um what we learn about other acts that are moving forward potentially um and you know how are we doing relative to things like um uh practices best practices so we'll we get into it later as we have what I think will be a similar discussion tonight but things like um how our uh practices on construction sites and Commercial kitchens and and so on so on and so forth so we can CAC with the input of council can talk about each week what that will look like but I think there will be subjects that will occupy us for the next month and Bob has a suggestion I think those are all good things to talk about Sam and of course there's things that we don't um we don't know today that we will want to

[214:01] talk about I my my only suggestion would be rather than doing that that at the very end of the meeting it will feel a little unnatural is We Do It um towards the beginning either immediately after briefing uh while um when we can react to what we're hearing from the experts or or maybe after open comment but I would do it at the beginning and save our business towards the last that's fine I mean I think that's a good point maybe after open comment is better okay so I think we can maybe go on to the next slide if you're okay with April 7th so this was going to be a study session but now it's a special meeting so we'll start off with our briefing and then everything else was put under Matters from the city manager so they'll what CAC requested is that each of these items be very short so the first one is the Google service eligibility calculator this is the software that Google in partnership with

[215:02] the city and many departments in the city has been helping us prepare so that folks who are in search of the typical kinds of Aid that the city passes out would be able to find out if they're eligible for it we want to tell you about it I don't think we're launching it right away because um it is busy working on covid and other responses but that will be coming and so there's going to be a report that a vet will prepare I'll talk about it for two minutes is what CAC requested and then we'll move on to the next one which is the community benefit Phase 2 code change project so this is one that staff was seeking input on next steps from city council um CAC was requesting that it be a short item we do have the capacity for staff to make a presentation and to have

[216:01] a um a conversation about it with the council so you need to help us decide how much you want on that one then there'll be a very short update on planning and development services and what's been happening in that area of the city in the last few months and then this was the co response discussion that we could move forward if you'd like us to do that so th this meeting could be pretty short uh Sam I think you're muted good reminder so I I think for 2A there's going to be a memo and this will just be a pointer to the memo with a brief what what's the subject and on 2C there will be a memo that we're going to so both of those are um we're treating them I think essentially like IPS and then what you're asking council tonight

[217:01] is do we want to be to be somewhat substantial or just a few minutes and then a memo right okay Aon uh yeah thanks so I I wanted to agree with the that idea of moving the 2D the covid response discussion up to um after the briefing it seems to like if we start each meeting with our covid items uh Al together that makes a lot of sense to me and then um I would just say to to go on the um shorter side on these things the other matters Mary so I would just like to understand um the purpose of putting these as well a the eligibility calculator and the update on planning and development services of putting them as matters rather than just leaving them as an IP

[218:00] that we read so my understanding is they're essentially IPS and this is just a two-minute here's what's going to be in the IP don't forget to read it so it was a little many IPS come and go by and not all of us get to them I'm guilty of that this is something that would otherwise have been an item that we would address um but because of covid we're moving it off so if you think we should handle it a different way that would be fine so what you're saying is is it's just hey you're G to get a memo read it or you've got a memo and here's what it's going to be about and and read it and send any questions over email okay um as long as we keep it to that I think that's fine yeah I think A and C we're definitely going to keep to that and the question is is there anyone on Council who wants B to be more

[219:05] substantial hearing none I think we'll stick with that two minute five minute two minute thing that we said at CAC and move D up to a great okay on to the next one so this would be a regular meeting um we would have the briefing we'll move the co discussion up before open comment then we'll have open comment here we got we have the second reading of the criminal code and the oil and gas moratorium extension then we don't have any public hearings that evening but under Matters from the city manager we have the 20th plenty discussion um and then of course the co would have moved up and then under Matters from the mayor members of council we were going to return with a work plan and upcoming council meeting discussion as we look forward into May

[220:01] and June and then calling special meetings for the um study sessions in May and possibly for June 9th so Jane quick comment I want to check in with Council to make sure I understood I believe that we were gonna do the covid-19 response discussion after open comment right get the briefing and then the comment and then we discuss yep we can move that up um this is Lynette doesn't that get in the way of our open phone line with our vendor that we're using didn't we want to keep that phone line open as short of a time as possible right so what we're going to do is move 5B it will now be 1B right okay and then we'll yeah okay that's my understanding thanks no I'm confused a little bit I thought it was gonna come

[221:02] between two and three oh I'm sorry I thought it was going to yeah so I went I went councel the way in I I I agree with Bob when he suggested that we get the briefing we do open comment so you can open the phone line after the briefing you have open comment close the phone line and then put in the covid-19 response discussion only because that lets us hear from the public okay I I just misunderstood I'm sorry there's an additional cost for that we pay by the hour for the phone line so if you leave it no matter when you it's the time is charged from when you start and when you finish it so staff was recommending that you put the public hearings and the consent agenda together so there' just be one span of time when the line would be available public Hearing in the con sorry I'm say again Tom the the public hearing and the consent together yeah so that the public hear if the public hearing follows the consent that the

[222:02] time that we have to pay for the moderator to be there is shorter so if you open the phone line and close it and put something in between the time that the city will have to pay for that service will be longer so it'll be more expensive great I've got Mary and Aaron so does the moving that um covid response discussion moving that away from the briefing does that Prelude questions to um Jeff um Zak and to uh Dr vissers no no no um you would still do the briefing as we've been doing it so anybody that was making a presentation you could ask questions too I think the response discussion is to talk about things that have come up during the week that you have other questions about that we haven't somehow answered okay okay just want to be clear

[223:00] on that um and then my other question is how expensive is that service I don't want to quote a figure I I I know that s remember we're paying by the hour ah okay is it a, doll an hour is it a100 it's in the hundreds of dollars okay eron and then s s actually before we go Aon Sarah can answer the cost Sarah good evening Council this is Sarah Huntley engagement manager um the cost for our contract depends on the services we execute in the contract but what we're talking about here is an inbound phone call number with a screener from broadnet that's a minimum cost of $750 a meeting if we talk about having video streaming or other features that we need

[224:01] to add the costs go up significantly is it $750 an hour a meeting or just a flat Fe well you've negotiated with them to do the first couple of meetings on a pilot basis um where they will be a little bit cheaper but their actual regular rate is $750 for 60 minutes okay thank you that's with their screener as we get more comfortable with it it's possible that a city staff person would be able to play the role of both staff moderator and screener which could bring that cost down a little bit great Aaron has a comment and then uh Rachel has a question so Aaron well maybe I'll just ask Kel's question since she wrote it is would it is it $750 per hour Sarah so the second hour would also be$ 750 no it's not a full $750 difference for the second hour there's a a per hour extra cost that's associated and I don't recall exactly what that is so it goes up I'm

[225:00] sorry this is Mary um so it goes up after the first hour after the first hour there would be additional cost but it's not it's not $750 extra each hour okay so to get back to us on that I I guess partly the uh it would matter exactly how much that is um but I I do still like the idea of keeping all the covid things together at the beginning of the meeting and and so I would I would vote for doing those together and then going to open comment I'm good with that does anyone object okay very good then then 5B becomes 1B right okay thank you are there any other questions about this meeting okay on to the next one so April

[226:00] 28th is the one we've all been waiting for um we will be doing the financial update and the committee report um and I think Katie went through all of the sub uh topics that we will do that night and we can also do a covid response discussion that night I don't think we're going to have a briefing that night I'm not sure we have enough time to do that but I think as we get closer we'll know a little bit more about what what we need to do for that meeting any comments anyone okay silence means Ascent in this case Okay on to a to May 5th okay so um May 5th we have on the consent agenda the first reading of the first adjustment to the base budget and and certainly this is going to be of interest to council based on the financial information that

[227:02] Katie presented today and that we'll hear about on April 28th uh right now we don't know what that looks like but this is the normal time that we would do that so we're going to keep that on because it is an important item then under public hearings we have the possibility of marpa house and the hill hotel and the items May both be postponed depending on the situation um Chris sent me some information about the marpa house which makes me think that we're not we're still not quite sure um if they need to pursue landmarking some of some of the issues that had been brought up before have been resolved but they may need they're not going to um expand the building at all so that's a positive development but they might need tax credits and if they do I think it needs to be landmarked is the understanding that I have from what Chris sent me and

[228:00] then the hill hotel is the concept plan and we do need to get to that because it has been called up and although we have the ability to delay these matters um we probably don't want to delay this for too long of a period so this is one where we need input on what you'd like to do that night so Adam you have a question yeah this isn't in particular to this meeting I just uh have a question about scheduling in general so I can wait until after toward the end of this conversation okay very good I I would just observe that there's no covid briefing or Co discussion was that intentional because you don't think we'll have time um it was intentional because we are hopeful that as we get to the end of April that having a briefing at every meeting won't be necessary we don't know how often it would be necessary probably maybe every other meeting but we you

[229:02] know we can't predict what that will be okay I would just observed for Council that this looks like an actual normal meeting so if we don't have covid to add here I don't understand why we wouldn't be able to get through this meeting any Council feedback because otherwise CAC will just monitor okay Aon says okay this is Bob I'll just jump in um um if if marpa house is not resolved and it's it and it's contentious um and and we anticipate a lot of community members coming out and we do the Hill Hotel concept review I can see this being a kind of a lengthy meeting so I I kind of agree with you Sam um I would like to keep the Hill Hotel on for sure and get through concept review which will probably take us an hour and a half or two hours um but I'm not sure we can

[230:00] do both of them if Mara house is a big deal which it may not be okay and then I've got Mark with a question and Mary with a question and Aaron says we may need a briefing still at this point I agree with that Aaron um and we will monitor CAC and take your input Mark well that was my question I assume we have the flexibility to reinsert a CO briefing if if needed I think we do oh yeah I mean this can change week to week so yeah I hope you're right yeah Mary question well I'm wondering about the Hill Hotel um because it is a hotel um and I'm just wondering what the state of things will be um and financing for hotels um so I'm just wondering do we want to just monitor

[231:00] this one and um maybe put it off so I'm going to jump in here I I mean I think your point is well taken but it needs to be the applicant who kind of withdraws and says hey the financing isn't going to work for us anymore we don't want to move forward at this point they've submitted their concept review we've called it up and so I think we have an obligation to go through with the hearing we we don't have to do it on May 5th we could do it later because we're under emergency orders and we can change the timing of it but um I think that just putting it completely on the back burner would not be the right thing to do yeah that I I I thank you for that I I understand um I'm just wondering I guess it could be a pilot but I'm just

[232:01] wondering how um doing a concept plan in a virtual meeting May play out but I guess we can try it um it's just such a kind of interactive visual kind of thing but good point okay so Rachel has a question um that's General I have her on the stack with adette B says they will try and get an update and keep CAC informed I assume that that's about the con Hill Hotel yep then Mark agrees with Mary as far as should we be thinking about hotels right now Bob says let let's ask the applicant I think Bob why don't you just tell us what you want to ask the applicant here well it was basically what said um so um let's let's not assume anything

[233:01] one way or the other we make reach out to the applicant and they may tell us exactly what Mary is speculating which is maybe they don't want to go forward as quickly uh it it' just be good to know I mean if they still want to go forward we we reserve the prerogative to decide the timing but um but but let's ask them because they may this problem could go away thanks Bob I appreciate that I think I think that's what we should do okay so we'll stay Nimble on this meeting based on what we learn from the the different applicants for those two public hearing hearings is that okay I think it's okay I would just observe that if we don't have a ton of covid discussion so a covid briefing and a short Co discussion there's room here to do something and whether we want to do something that's related to covid or we want to do something that addresses you know some of our backlog I I think we

[234:00] should Council should track CAC to make sure that CAC isn't going off into the weeds but we may try and keep something on um going forward so Bob has a suggestion well I guess as a suggestion or comment one of the things that was originally on this meeting and I I was wrong Jane corrected me that uh I I thought I didn't realize the library had come off of May the library dist come off on May 5th um I feel a little uncomfortable just having the library district disappear um I don't know what our decision will be but I want our decision to be intentional in light of the circumstances and so I'd like to SK schedule it somewhere in here so we can tell the library Champions and the community which way we're heading and people may or may not like that answer but I I do think that we need to have a discussion about it at some point in time great well as Mary said uh leave it to CAC and I'll get to Mary's comment in a second I I think that maybe what we do

[235:01] here is we somehow put it under one of the matters under the maybe postponed rubric because I think what we're trying to do is is signal that it could happen or could not happen so Mary Mary young you may be muted sorry I keep forgetting um I think the library district is similar to we may land on that similar to where we landed on the hill hotel which is why don't we ask the library Champions how they feel about this because in a way it's it's sort of in by then we will have had our April 28th discussion about the budget and we also um have to remain cognizant that you know what could happen one of the things that could happen with the library district is um a taxing question and that may not be the most brilliant thing

[236:00] to do in November so um maybe we want to ask the library district or the library champions great and I think Rachel and Bob concur with that and then Aaron you had a comment yeah oh I I agree with that as well I mean I I talked to them actually not that long ago and I don't want to represent them because I might get it wrong but I I think they would like the concept to not go away entirely this year but uh they don't feel it needs to be brought up right away so and which and so my comment earlier about you know maybe talking about in the summer I think works probably with that but by all means we should reach out great okay do we have more I don't know do yeah okay so um now that we're getting out like six weeks it's a little bit iffy but we had planned to have a local power municipalization update and then Council

[237:02] input on the 2020 Community survey so this meeting looks like it could be open I think the council input is a short conversation and the municipalization update would normally be about 90 minutes so we may have some openings on this meeting to add something great Adam has a comment so we didn't even get to this point in cic if I'm remembering correct so this is all not even cic discuss that's right right that's right the the reason that we're going this far is because of the next meeting which uh was can you just put up the May TW yeah so this meeting originally had on it the CU South decisions based upon input from the community as well as the three

[238:00] boards that were going to review it at the process committee meeting last week it was decided to move this to move that discussion out a month so we wanted to show that on May 19th we're no longer uh demonstrating or showing the CU South South Boulder Creek flood issue that's now going to be on June 16th so this is another meeting where we've got some time and again we may be having covid briefings this whole time but we're hoping that we can go down to only two a month at this point so just a comment as a member of of the subcommittee and and Rachel can chime in a lot of that month delay was driven by staff's uh necessity to look at critical functions and to focus on on um Public Works issues uh in kind of an emergency response mode and so the delay of a

[239:02] month roughly is driven by the fact that staff hasn't been able to do the work but they will be able to get to do the work and then we'll be able to run it past all three boards and we have a schedule for that laid out it's not complete yet but we can bring that back to council but uh Rachel do you have any comments yeah no I would agree it was a staff request that they needed another month to do um Outreach and engagement with boards um and I would just add I thought we were more making a recommendation to move it to June than that we had made a decision at the subcommittee so I would say that was the subcommittee rec recommendation yeah and then followed by CAC we took that and we laid it out this way so um if Council has any any concerns with this let us know okay and I don't know if we show more meetings Chris is there another

[240:04] one yeah so may 26th we've got ballot item we always bring forward ballot items this time of year um and then we we're going to talk about minimum wage scoping just looking at those two items ballot items obviously the charter committee has already had some meetings and I think we'd have time to bring that back the minimum wage scoping I am pretty sure we will not have the capacity to bring that back to you at this time because this was work that was going to be done by Community vitality and as you know well AET and her team have been 100% focused on uh business relations as a result of the virus so I think that one is probably going to need to go away just until later in the year great Mary has a question so um yeah on the previous

[241:01] meeting but you don't have to go back to the slide um is the business improvement district passing that doesn't that mean creating a taxing district up in uh North Boulder yeah it does and I saw that on the last slide as well and I thought to myself I wonder if they're going to want to go forward um they had hoped to go a year ago and then it got delayed so that's another one we need to check on yeah and yeah just to make sure they still want to do that right right okay so it seems like we're through but there were two general questions I have Adam and then Rachel yeah so the things that I'm not seeing anywhere here are what steps Council might want to take to address funing shortfalls um inequality issues that might stem from the economic impacts so

[242:00] I I sent a couple ideas and I know other people have ideas as well so I just want to see since some of these meetings are short if we can at least start those discussions in the near term just so they're not put off until you know for too long essentially So Adam on the items that you brought up what we could do is on at CAC on Monday we we can add those to you know how at the beginning we go through scheduling items we can add that there and CAC can discuss those and decide when and if to put those on the agenda So Adam could you Mary request could you remind us of the items that you're referencing sure one was a uh new funding source and that would be a head tax on um primarily um public companies uh companies that are publicly traded uh

[243:01] the other was a potential to put a um prohibition so a two-year prohibition on home sizes over 4,100 square feet um to avoid people buying cheaper houses in the economic downturn and then turning around and making them much bigger um and more expensive than they were previously so those were the two items that I brought up so may I comment on um at least one of those I'm happy to com Sam doesn't seem

[244:02] to be speaking so oh um so I you know so as far as the as far as the um the head tax again you know a theme is arising with me um I mean are we sure that a tax at this point in time would be something that we'd want to bring forward so I just wanted to put that out there um and um yeah that's all and I'll just quickly respond uh the reason why I chose publicly traded companies is they don't tend to be large so we're avoiding a lot of small businesses and since a lot of them are tech-based um they have a lot of work for home policies things along those lines that have helped them avoid a lot of the issues that covid has presented so I'll just say that

[245:02] much and then Jane confirms that uh Bob on April 14 we're going to discuss petition initiatives and the juny just for the record says I agree with you Mary we need to reconsider the economics of taxes and Aaron yeah I I think sort to Adam's point and Mary's and Etc I think we're going to want to be nimble this year in terms of how we respond respond to the crisis and so the co briefings are are really about what's happened this week but I think we also need to have some willingness to rearrange our work plan um and take on new initiatives to support you know folks who are struggling or let go of initiatives that don't seem to be appropriate anymore um so I you know I'm fine with kind of the level that we're

[246:00] looking at it right now because I think it's too soon to say exactly what we're going to want to do but I just want to get that point out there as we move further into this um I think we should be open to rearranging our plans adding new things taking things off and which is not to say necessarily endorse ad Adam's particular ideas but just that idea that we that we should um we we should be rearranging things as we get further into this great and Mir by comments that she agrees with Mary um as far as taxes go and I missed Mark earlier so Mark wallik yeah yeah uh with respect to what um Adam has proposed I'm happy to have that conversation but I think this climate is so uh negative and antithetical to tax increases that it it's not really a practical uh proposal for now if we want to talk about it for

[247:01] some future time I'm happy to have that conversation but it's not something I think we're going to be implementing anytime in the near future the other proposal I think is a more uh difficult question of land use policy and again I'm happy to have the conversation but I'm I'm just not sure where that's going to go thanks okay um Adam has one last comment sure and I appreciate everyone's feedback uh the reason why I want to have a robust discussion about this is to look at the whole thing rather than just make a rash judgment um simply because we are going to be lacking funding sources um deeply in the future so if we don't try to poke at some of these things and just say no to all taxes that automatically means that we're going to continue to have funding shortfalls so um just keep that in mind and hopefully be open to a discussion

[248:02] marry yeah and I just I I appreciate that Adam and I appreciate you um wanting to be proactive um I also want to just remind everybody that you know we're all in this together and I think there's a what I see happening out there is that everybody is trying to come together and work together and um and let's see how that plays out and you know to to Erin's comment it's really too soon to um to tell and and I agree we need to be nimble and um and I think we need to keep in mind that we're all trying to work together as a community and come up with solutions that benefit the most people that we can have benefit um everybody's going to be in budget shortfalls the city is not in

[249:00] a unique situation everybody is going to be trying to figure out how to replace Revenue news it's not unique to the city so um I just want us to keep that in mind that everybody's going through the same thing so that's what's really kind of um unique about this situation there's there's not really um winners in this situation so I'll follow up Mary um one of the the things that we talked with um Congressman Theus about very ious people um and one of the things that is being discussed for the fourth stimulus package is backfilling local um Revenue loss and I don't know what local means but um certainly Mayors want um cities and Commissioners want counties and governors want State and so I think there will continue to be a conversation

[250:00] about what's in this fourth package what does that look like and certainly revenue losses is a subject um that's on the table any other comments on the work plan it looks like we've worked through two months ahead which is pretty good um and obviously CAC is going to need to keep bringing things back to council as things change um but are we good on this if anyone has more comments let me know otherwise I think we'll call this agenda I was still in the queue oh I'm sorry Rachel I didn't see that apologize it's okay oh that's y yeah um I just had more of a general thought which is I agree that we're not in kind of business as usual um mode and I find these meetings a little bit difficult to begin with so the shorter they are I think the better um but I do wonder if we could take this time to listen more we're hearing a lot from the community and emails and phone

[251:02] calls um and I know some people have wanted kind of broader audience and I understand what you to have like science Tuesdays where we would invite some longer presentations so I wondered if either part of our meeting could be set up as longer listening sessions or given that something like cost is going to be an obstacle there could we do some um other options for Community engagement with zoom meetings or something like that I apologize to Sarah Huntley for creating extra work if that were to happen but um could we be listening more while we are all um at home and a little bit available thanks Bob yeah I I agree with Rachel and Rachel let me make a suggestion since you you and I um and Sarah are the engagement Community engagement committee and I think we're scheduled for a meeting on Friday if that's still this coming Friday if that's still on so why don't you and Sarah and I take that offline and come back to Council in a week or two with some suggestions on how

[252:01] we can create those listing sessions either on Tuesday nights or or um in other forums okay and I'm to Mirror by asked a question am I wanting more meetings I would say I wonder if we could use this meeting time to listen more but it sounds like that maybe creates another cost so could we do uh a different way and maybe it's not all council members but still um publicly noticed because there will be enough of us I don't know just a thought well I mean I'll comment I I think our Tuesday night's time is going to be fairly precious to be honest um we we'll see how Co develops but I do think having open listening sessions where they're noticed and any number of council members could choose to join or not um it's different than chats with Council but the engagement committee might think about you know could we do a now we don't have to go out into the

[253:01] community in a sense right we can't really do that and go into different places but we could set aside different times and council members could make it or not as as their schedule allowed so anyway that's for the engagement committee um anything else any other comments great so Jane any closing comments no just this was very helpful and we will make whatever changes you brought up tonight and then um um go from there so I think there's one more thing on the agenda there's actually two and potentially three which we will not get to um so what um okay so the the things I see on the agenda are covid response discussion so there's a whole long list of buckets

[254:01] here that we can put forward there's potential to do or not do um the remaining boards and commissions and then there's the discussion of future council meeting and study session schedules and open comment frequency in my opinion we can really probably do c pretty easily it's only going to be I think a 10 or 15 minute discussion we're done with a and so the question is does uh Council want to do more board and commission appointments and or do we want to address um covid response tonight so I'm looking the council uh to either so Aaron says what are A and C so the work plan discussion was item a um B uh was the covid response C was future Council meetings and schedules and then the open question is are we done with

[255:02] board and commissions for tonight okay so I've got if I answered Aaron's question I've got Rachel and Mary wants to do more boarding commission and then Adam and Mark so Rachel um so I think that for the community's benefit it's more important that we tackle covid-19 response discussion tonight I'm happy to stay up late and do boards and commissions now that we've started them but I think there are there are um there's more urgency to wrapping our minds around some of the options we have and solutions that we may be a able to offer for this crisis uh then Adam so Mary said yes on boards and commissions then Adam and Mark yeah I'll just pretty much second what Rachel said I'm down to do more boards and commissions but I want to talk a little bit about response great and Mark Wallock sorry I had to unmute um I share

[256:03] Rachel's sentiments I would frankly rather put off boards and commissions and focus on Co response tonight um and get to the rest of them at our earliest convenience okay miror by uh I do agree that boards and commissions are incredibly important so if we need to do that I do understand but I will say I have not stopped working since this started so I'm pretty brain fried at this point tonight so I'm not lasting much longer at this point okay so that sounds like we're we're going to talk about um covid-19 so let me tell you buckets that um Bob and I had worked up just as uh organizational Frameworks you can tell me whether you're agree with these or not um the first one was enforcement um and education so how are we making sure that people are behaving in a safe F fashion second was changes and

[257:01] improvements so above and beyond just trying to make sure the stay-at-home is working well um are there things we can do to encourage people to wear masks more or wear masks in certain work situations and then uh developing best practices for different Industries and distributing those that would be changes and improvements and then there was additional programs which would be homeless parking and the sanctuary City declaration redeclaration and cyclovia and then there's City finances which I think we've actually covered pretty much tonight but Bob can can say if he agrees and then there's just a heads up that economic recovery stuff is coming and I think we actually touched on most of that so that would leave us with enforcement and education changes to current and then additional does that sound like an okay way to frame up the covid

[258:02] discussion if anyone okay if anyone just likes it to speak up now okay in that case let's jump into enforcement um I have a question for Jane to kind of tee this up Jane I had seen a few notes from you that highlighted that much of the health focused enforcement around um the order the state order is done by the county is that correct you want to tell us a bit about that yeah I will and I'm going to ask Carrie Weinheimer to to be ready to help me so when a person has a complaint about others violating the stay-at-home order the thing for them to do is to go to bouldercounty.org and at the top of their homepage they've got a link to um a form that they can fill out that goes to the county health department and the

[259:00] County Health Department then triages those forms and figures out um if they can respond to the question maybe it's just a question immediately or if they need to refer it to the police department of the local city and hopefully Carrie you're on board and you can talk a bit about what happens if it comes to the police department are you there I am here good evening K Carrie thank you Carrie uh as as Jane explained uh the primary enforcement arm for the state orders is the county health department and they do have their call center that's been stood up and I believe their 00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. including uh at least this weekend and um I know they've handled on Thursday when this first began I think they handled over 470 calls so they're the primary enforcement arm especially when it comes to businesses that might be violating the order um the police

[260:00] department is still responding [Music] to um calls that might involve large public Gatherings um because obviously it's hard for public health to be able to respond to those and I I did a quick research back to Thursday morning when the order went into effect we've had handled about 20 of those calls since Thursday morning through this evening so that's they've ranged from reports of people um playing soccer and basketball to um you know things like like um complaints about construction or Landscaping which are obviously allowed under the order there additional questions I can answer anyone have questions so I have a question that's kind of in between which is I just received a note and I've received a couple of others about somebody observing people on playground equipment not just one group of people

[261:01] but like 40 or 50 people within the space of half an hour playing on slides and and you know being and these are mostly young people but being far too close to each other and so is that something that Parks is going to work on is that something that um the police or the health department would respond to what advice should I give to them yeah I think that that's a actually a really difficult question because calling the police um the police have other things that they're doing and so they are going to prioritize sort of emergent issues as opposed to people on playgrounds but the parks department has put up signs everywhere they're trying to be much more um directive about where the signs are but people are violating them and it it puts the city in a

[262:01] difficult position we don't I got to say we don't really know how to affect effectively get somebody out there in the moment to enforce these things because really the police department can't be in charge of enforcing the playround social distancing so it's an issue for us great I want to return to the playground question but that was just the the like more big picture not specifically that but um does anyone else have a question for Carrie or Jane about kind of generally who to call and and what the process is sounds like no okay Mark does great um under the state order um violations of the emergency order are punishable by fines are they not I guess they are okay um but we're

[263:00] not issuing tickets at this point we're trying to educate people at this point well given the add sure if I could add to that there there is a obviously the first um the first approach is to try to get compliance the health department also has the ability to uh enact a civil process against U people who violate and then the last uh and final Resort would be any kind of criminal prosecution which is a currently a Class one misdemeanor well I I I don't think anybody wants to see a criminal prosecution but if people are knowingly and repeatedly violating our emergency order um it seems that at some point we're going to need to make that decision that that they ought not to be jeopardizing The public's health and and simply advising them may not be a sufficient um strategy for

[264:03] getting compliance and so I'm I'm asking is that is that who else might be authorized to issue a uh a ticket obviously we don't want the police doing this the the police department are the ones authorized to issue tickets and if they've got nothing else going on on a given day I guess they can show up to the situation and ask people to move on it's just that we can't guarant guarantee that there's not something else that would be in front of that situation and I I have a followup question for you Jane it's not followup it's actually a little different um what was the theory behind um accepting Landscaping uh from the prohibition on activities and and deeming it an essential service you would have to ask

[265:01] the governor yeah so so can I can I just um bookmark that Mark I put it down here under changes because that that I think is a uh you know the whole Landscaping small construction renovation all of that I think um we can return to that under changes because I think it would be an additional or a change um and and it's an important question but so I'm trying to make sure Carrie can get off the line when his part is done I defer um anything else about enforcement um I I have been and Jane tell me if this is okay because I think other council members uh okay um may have a question about this is it okay to forward Parks complaints to Ali roads is it okay to um do open space complaints to Dan Burke how would you like us to handle things

[266:00] that we receive directly that you may not get so certainly you can forward them to Ally for parks and Dan for open space um if it's a question about a particular situation like right now two people are walking too close together on the path then sending that to Dan won't be effective so the only way to do that I think is for the person to immediately call the public health department okay so I'm thinking a little more broadly like if there's 20 children on a playground and that's something that we don't want to see happen taking a picture and sending it to um Ally will that be helpful to her or does she you know I'm just trying to get guidance is there any way that we should share our observations so while this has been going on we've been trying to make sure

[267:00] that Ally and Dan can join the conversation so Ally are you there I'm here oh great hi uh Ali roads director of Parks and Recreation so our team has been monitoring the playgrounds we have folks in the field six days a week right now doing trash removal and other essential duties in park operations we are seeing changes in the usage we know people are still violating we know people are um for example moving picnic tables to access tenant courts so this week the team is removing Nets at tennis courts they are to Jane's Point placing signs more directly on equipment removing some equipment where we can um I did a kind of exhaustive tour of the system today to see what I saw and of the 15ish playgrounds I drove by I saw one kid on a swing so I'm not saying the larger parties and things are happening

[268:00] but I do think that they're not a widespread issue that we need to be ordering chain link fencing and fencing off playgrounds I I do think the message is happening and our team's continuing to pay attention I got an email today from a woman concerned about Behavior patterns she was seeing at her tennis court and so tomorrow morning the team will visit that site take the Nets down put signs up lock the court so I guess the the the short answer is sure send stuff our way and we'll continue to monitor okay great thank you I've got juny and then Rachel and then um juny said taking pictures of children children may be inappropriate um Junior you have a comment yes I just wanted to add to um because I think or or order is a little bit more although you are required or asked to stay home you still can go shopping you still can go go outside for fresh air so I think it's very hard to

[269:01] Monitor and I'm thinking as well I think maybe as Jane mentioned behavioral change is much better than penalizing people at this moment because until we have stricter directive I just don't think that's productive and also just you know penalizing members of the community we know that are currently suffering probably financially so maybe we might reconsider that um yeah and again to me I think it's more about the behavioral change and making it possible for people to educate one another as community members without being too um maybe aggressive about it you know like saying um if you see someone walking to clo with each other but then again it could be maybe their family members um so I think it's a bit it's slightly challenging on how to best um interact in this

[270:02] situation great thank you Rachel yep hi um so on the ticketing concept it doesn't sound like per Jane were even thinking about doing that but I would have some um concerns if we wanted to go down that road because it's you know if you're at a playground it probably means that you don't have a fenced in backyard with a trampoline you know built into your into your yard and other you know a playground equipment and things like that so I think there's a socioeconomic um in equity issue so I think the people that we would be ticketing would would not only be financially struggling from the current crisis but also probably also have um lower socioeconomic and a more challenging time getting to get their kids out I say all that with the acknowledgement that we need to be staying at home and nobody feels more strongly about that than I do um but I hope we can find a different way than ticketing

[271:01] thanks great and we ended up with the playground thing anyway um I wasn't necessarily wanting to go there but the the concern with playgrounds is not the same as Parks right playgrounds are multiple people using the same piece of equipment over and over with not enough staff to be able to clean it in between so there's not a real ticketing concept here it's just how do we keep people from doing things that are not safe for them and others um so I I think you've kind of the signs are great you know I've checked out the signs and and they seem to be mostly effective I agree and it seems like the you know the report I got I'll just forward on to you I have no idea if it's true or not but it talked about seeing 50 kids in a park over the course of an hour playing near each other you know on the same piece of equipment and and so that just there's no perfect answer here but that highlights the concern it's not so much Parks it's just the the use of the

[272:00] equipment that gathers people together so yeah absolutely please do share because I do think different areas have different Trends or behavior patterns based on what amenities are in the area or privately available and so send it our way and we'll see what we can do at that site great anyone else um so this is enforcement and education anyone have any comments about that high Lev bucket that we're talking about and you said Dan was here does Dan want to comment before we're off of the this sure Sam uh Dan Burke Open Space Mountain Parks um I just want to Echo a few things that Ally said uh we have noticed uh our Ranger reports from the last few days is is actually indicated a uh a reversal of what we were seeing the first couple of weeks and in fact I'm just reading today's report from one of our lead Rangers who said even though it

[273:00] was a very beautiful day that what he was seeing was very low uh visitation probably the lowest he's seen since the cor Corona virus um situation has occurred so what we think we might be seeing at least from the open space perspective is a few things coming together which a spring break uh could have uh created a spike for us and I don't know if that created a spikes for Parks as well but with online schooling started spring breaks over with the education and Outreach efforts that have been going on uh pretty aggressively between Open Space Mountain parks our our sister agencies open space agencies across the Front Range our city parks and Rex Department I think the education is starting to uh take hold as well uh so I don't know if I can call it a trend yet but uh certainly the last couple of days uh we've gotten indications from our Rangers that the visitation levels uh and the social distancing are both getting better uh but in terms of how to

[274:01] report things I would say that there's three ways that we gather our information one is we have automatic Trail counters installed at 11 of our uh highest use uh Trail locations so we are continually monitoring our Trail data uh our Ranger daily log reports is another significant way that we are getting feedback from what's going on in the system as well as community members uh uh reporting in so we use all three of those uh ways to determine where we need to uh Place more emphasis and in fact we're using those three data points uh starting at the end of the week to uh ramp up some very specific site specific um education at about six of our highly visited uh Trail heads and we're actually going to start deploying our education and Outreach staff at those Trail heads as well uh in a in a uh after they get some B some basic training and they will be in uniform so I think there's going to be a much greater presence on our open space

[275:01] system in terms of uh uh uh helping to educate uh the the physical distancing aspect that we're seeing uh some areas where there's concerns on open space great thank you mirbi has a comment um yeah I just had a question on I I'm assuming it's possibly parks and wrecks but who has jurisdiction over the creek at the base of the canyon because I came down from work today and it was you know pretty decent day out and I was shocked at the amount of people down there today sure uh if you're talking about EB and gine park that area is is city of Boulder parks and recreation and further up like where they do all the tubing and the diving and the rope swings and stuff uh I'm not aware of any current rope swings are you so you're talking west of Ean gine Park yeah just a little bit I'm talking like two three blocks it's where all the tubers go and people jump off rope swings in the summer they erect them at this in the

[276:00] summer yeah yeah um to up until that that second road that is Parks and Recreation land and I can have folks check out that area tomorrow and see if so what I hear you saying is there were a lot of people and were they were not practicing social distancing the playground was in use and Gatherings happening well it so when you're coming down the canyon there's you can look down into the creek and there's there was a rope there is a rope swing a lot of the time and then there's this area where they've dug it out so the tubers come down and there's all this path and there was tons of people with bikes with without with dogs they were all sitting on the big rocks that were into the creek and it's right where God uh there's a parking lot across the street I mean you're literally in the MTH of the canyon right there sure I think I know what you're talking about and maybe I can follow up with you offline or tomorrow to to clarify and then follow up on the right the right mitigation strategies for that site yeah and again I'm just curious because I was shock how many people I did see out today

[277:01] yeah Sam you're on mute any other comments or questions for Ally or Dan thank you all thanks guys you and I think that's the end of the education and enforcement um conversation so let's move on to changes um I I'll start with Mark because he had brought up landscaping and I want to come back to Landscaping Construction and so on as um as essential functions yeah so if you don't mind like I got the question so what happened is that after the city issued the emergency order last week then Boulder County Health issued one and then the governor issued one and what we ended up doing is the city and Boulder County both of us went with the

[278:00] governor's order the state order as the order that's now in effect in uh the state of Colorado and in Boulder County and in the city of Boulder and so in that order the governor listed what essential services are and among those essential services are the construction of housing including affordable housing and then also under that section is maintenance of um of buildings essentially I'm paraphrasing so there were questions asked of the health department and I presume that they may have um asked the governor as well or the the public health people at the state and the consensus among Public Health officials is that the way that order is listed or written that Landscaping is actually fits into the maintenance of residences

[279:02] part and so it is permitted under the state order but as I understand that we can make our order more restrictive if we so desired is that not true we could do that and I mean I'm I'm just failing to see the essential nature of lawnmowing okay uh Adam yeah I don't know if we want to tackle each one of these one at a time but I have similar issues with some of the construction that's been going on um that isn't you know affordable housing related or anything along those lines um where social distancing isn't being practiced and we've seen a few examples of this over the last week or so um so I want to have that discussion as well as to whether or not we should be looking at better enforcement or just um

[280:01] tightening our rest restrictions even further and and this is the right place this is the right place for that conversation um so I think uh we can take these one at a time um and and I guess what I'd like to hear more broadly from Council before we dive into it is um do we want to uh have a conversation about tightening up our order beyond what the state is because if we say yes then we can talk about landscaping and certain types of construction and so on if we end up saying no we want to do this a different way or no we don't want to restrict it then that's a different comment so I'm I'm kind of looking at this as a fork in the path and so let's get the sense of council do we want to potentially make the order more restrictive or not and I'm going to read what mirbi said The more we cut back the

[281:00] more people who don't have jobs and will be put in a bad situation so that's one comment Aaron well um I think there's a there's a real value to having a consistency of um orders across the state I think the governor has done an excellent job he's always been like either one step ahead or one step behind us and then when we come into alignment I think it's working out well um so I would I would probably stick with the the governor's level of protection but what we might consider adding in and that's not like more stringent in terms of requirements would be that that the that we as a city expect that all essential activities that are still conducted are done with the maximum Social distancing practicable so I think about like landscapers you know there's May a crew of three working on three areas of the site and all doing their own separate things versus two people you know like

[282:00] weeding right next to each other something like that so uh you know if we put out an expectation that that every activity is done uh with the maximum extent practical practicable that that could be a good approach to take Rachel um I agree with Aon I would also not make it more uh restrictive and I think there's some um again Equity concerns at the industries that we would be targeting um so I'd have big concerns if we try to to Tinker with that but I I like eron's idea of um expressing that we need it to be done you know jobs where you might be standing closer to each other to have that um done with the six feed of Separation because we do want to protect the people who are doing those jobs too thanks great Bob yeah I'm gonna conc concur with Ain and Rachel uh and I see others are chiming with concurrences as well I just think that if there are

[283:01] changes if we weren't down the path of being more restricted and out of sync with the state it better be medically indicated in other words I don't want us the nine of us to impose our nonprofessional judgment on this topic uh and go down the path of restrictions um if if if if Jeff Zak was telling us that the governor was missing the mark and that we need to be more restrictive I'm going to listen to that but I don't think the nine of us should be um substituting our judgment for that of of our medical professionals so I would stay aligned with the governor who presumably is receiving medical advice and only deviate from that if if we get contrary medical advice great and then next I've got Mark with a comment um and then Mary I agree with what mirabi said about um you know not wanting to put more people out of work but I think we need to understand that it's got to be deeply

[284:01] frustrating for a lot of businesses who are deemed non-essential um when people who are there to plant trees and mow the lawn are suddenly deemed essential and there are a lot of people in town who got to be wondering about that and I I don't really have a good explanation for them Mary and then Adam I think that the lawn mowing and the Landscaping that we're having a discussion about is it's more perhaps like what happened with open space last week there were all these crowds and as things as we settle into the unsettled um people are becoming educated so I I think it's an education thing

[285:01] Adam so maybe this is an area where um community policing is maybe something we need to do more of because at a lot of these instances when you have a landscaping truck or you're at a construction site and you can see these things and you can take pictures of them and then you know specifically what the construction site is you can probably find out what the landscaping company is on the side of the truck then those can be reported with evidence so that those companies can be contacted um by the proper Authority um um and you know warned but um I I think we at least need to commit to sort of that level as a community of trying to enforce social distancing so I'm gonna read jun's juny says mowing a lawn is important as a person with allergies um I'm going to jump in here so I've been keeping track there's definitely not appetite for tightening the restrictions so I want to and I'm on

[286:01] that camp as well however there have been some uh pretty um close so i' I've observed on construction sites multiple times construction workers within a foot or two of each other working on the same thing whether it's lifting a pipe out of a hole or or laying um some kind of sheeting or you know where there's obviously unsafe practices going on I mean these these would be things where wouldn't matter where you were doing it or in what context or what service they they are violating the order in the sense that the order requires that even companies performing essential Services as defined in the order have to have um adequate social um spacing and so one of the things when when one of the um construction companies at Boulder Junction was showing a picture of what was going on there and I just gave it to our our city staff and they are the ones

[287:01] that found the contractor those those contractors and the ones nearby agreed immediately that there needed to be better um practices that the general contractors on those sites were performing and so I think one thing that we need to do is kind of a partnership you know as Mary said we're all on This Together education doesn't I mean I think reporting these instances to staff and especially with just a little evidence isn't going to result in a ticket that's not the point the the point is education and so so the chamber got involved much to their credit as well as the the um developers proactively took this up and so they halted work for one day and they they designated a safety person at each site and the safety person's job is to watch for safe behavior and then then going to write up some plans for how to do safe Behavior you know if you got three guys

[288:00] lifting a pipe out of a hole if that's a necessary function then can they wear a mask right can each of them have n95 masks on so they're at least protecting the other two from themselves and vice versa and so I I think there are a number of cases that and I think we can chunk them out as we go forward where we can just ask for more cooperation and more education rather than enforcement so construction is one where I've personally seen a lot of of non-social distancing Behavior just because that's the way it's always been done right this is a change this is a big change it's a big change in a week and so I think constructions on I think what goes on in commercial kitchens is another because most commercial kitchens are you know set up for people to be close to each other pretty close and so a do you do you ask for the chamber and the restaurant industry to come up and

[289:02] presumably National Restaurant Industries are working on this and do they come up with you know best practices that they can share with each other and so I think this is a good chance to partner with the chamber to help come up with better practices and get the word out I want to just say one more thing and then I'll be quiet but Bob flaged this so I'll have Bob comment um there's at least two condos in town that are having Renovations done to them I don't know exactly what the work is I went by one of them today and you know you know the challenge here is they're having to go into people's personal space in order to do construction work in their space and there are people who are not very comfortable with that and so we could have another layer of this which is if a construction worker is going to work in someone's personal space they at least have to have X or Y or Z as some kind of precaution and I I came by one of these

[290:01] places and I observed you know six construction workers standing around in the circle probably just planning out what they were going to do but they were all you know next to each other so I just want to put that out there as how can we cooperate with the local industry to comply with the order including the social distancing Rachel yep two things I I really um think that we should be staying in line with the state's order as much as we can because it's cleaner and I think that they have thought through it and I agree with Bob that until we get some um direction from um our health advisers that that we not go out on our own on this and second somebody mentioned community policing and that's a big red flag red flag for me I don't want it to be perceived that this council is encouraging community policing because that can lead to profiling and um incidence of racism so I'm I'm really

[291:00] Leary of us sending out that message Bob did you have anything you wanted to say about the um condo renovation issue no I think you did a good job of it I I I do think and this is not legislation on our part if if um if there's renovation happening on a facility and that involves um entry into a person's personal residence that person should certainly have the right to deny access to that residence and that's something they need to work out I think with their homeowners association or their condo or Co Co-op board but um in these instances are probably relatively rare but we're aware of at least two where there's work going on that involves entry into people's homes and and I think we need to um encourage those folks to um to exercise uh their rights if they don't feel comfortable with people coming into their homes Adam yeah just a response to Rachel obviously I don't want any racial profiling or anything along those lines

[292:01] but I think it's important that the community be aware of and point out instances where people are putting others lives at risk so that's the distinction I would like to make okay um so we flagged some things here and I I don't know where in the city it might land to try and help the um construction industry and the restaurant industry um encourage them to to adhere to the Governor's order in the sense of social distancing so Jane I'll just leave that hanging in the air for you unless you want to respond now I kind of figured this would be the way this conversation would go where we would flag areas of concern and then hear back what staff might have to say Jane do you have any thoughts um yeah thank you and and certainly we will work with the chamber to see if they can help us get the word out I did want to let you know that with

[293:02] regard to City construction projects I received information from one of the members of our response team today and this is what I heard all our staff are working closely with the city contractors to ensure they are following the orders in all cases project managers have been in touch with the contractors and informed them they would be allowed to proceed with their work with the expectation that they would be following the guidelines of social distancing to protect their own own workforces city project managers and engineering technicians continue to monitor the projects from safe distances in the field and through electronic meetings and conference calls and we know of at least one of our contractors but this is only an example because most of them have done it have been working hard to inform and educate their staff so I think with regard to projects that the city is involved in we are on on the

[294:02] case very good um Juni could you go ahead and speak to the comment that you made I'm not sure I can do it justice yes I just because we were talking about um holding um companies or organizations around town accountable or whether they can hold their own employees accountable I was wondering if we could provide them some type of a template or I mentioned social contract where they could sign have all the employees sign something that says you know I will adhere to this um just so that people again because we're trying to change behaviors and this is something new to all of us I'm thinking that if people sign it then maybe they'll be more aware um to adjust their behaviors that's a good suggestion and I expect that Chris mjuk um can take that

[295:01] to the right people on the city side and I I think the chamber is probably still following this or they'll watch the tape and so the chamber um Can can take that as a suggestion so thank you I believe that brings us to the end of the second bucket so we have done enforcement we have done changes and we've chewed over whether we wanted to follow the state order or add to it I think that's resolved and then uh the last bucket I'll check in on two final ones that'll be quick but the last bucket is additional programs and the three that I have flagged are homeless parking that Rachel and others are brought up the sanctuary City redeclaration and then cyclovia I didn't see Rachel or Aaron send anything in but on Twitter I saw both of them say that that was something they were interested in and I think Rachel mentioned she had said so before so Rachel would you like to kick us off on homeless

[296:02] parking sure um I think that that Kurt already went over that tonight and it doesn't sound super feasible to um change our our parking rules right now so it was just something that I thought we should consider um whether that was a way to help people who are possibly going to transition to homelessness you know have a stop Gap measure there and be able to park safely in their cars and do something that was permitted so it was just a a return to our safe parking comment our conversation from The Retreat and to see if that could possibly be helpful for people right now okay are you satisfied that staff got back to you well enough yeah I I if there were appetite for the rest of this Council to consider it I'm happy to discuss but I'm not sensing that okay anyone last going

[297:01] going gone um okay we'll we'll call that done for the night um then the sanctuary City redeclaration we were uh looking at getting to that right before we stopped meeting in real life and I think it's important to uh follow through with that um that commitment to recommit to being the sanctuary City we have a lot of new council members um and I think there's probably a lot of people in the community that are fearful to begin with and I want to make sure that people know know that it's um safe to uh call 911 and and that our our our city supports um immigrants and undocumented individuals and that this is a safe Sanctuary place to be great and Aon says he agrees with that uh juny yes I I actually agree as well with

[298:01] um with Rachel and my question to you as well is when it comes to us and the county are we collaborating with them at all because I did see on the news most recently um I don't want to give out misinformation but there was an issue with um immigrants or people who are non- US citizen they were afraid of going to the hospital and because of covid something happened so I'm wondering um I agree with you know Rec confirming and also are we doing anything with the county yeah so um last week we issued another press release making sure that people knew that the police aren't stopping folks and that we um the people are free to go to the hospital that there are not issues that we're Sanctuary City the county issued a

[299:00] similar release from the sheriff's Department um and we talk to the county almost every single day if not every single hour of the day on one matter or another involving the um the covid response so we are very much in sync with the with the county on this issue okay good Mary um yeah I just wanted to let everybody know that um there is um um and and Jane and and Kurt may be aware of this and and perhaps Sarah um there's a county um movement I guess um there's Geo Riva estada who runs um a program at the county that is called Suma and I forget what that um stands for but um Suma along with philanthropies is putting

[300:02] together a group of cultural Brokers and everybody's coming together and taking um pieces of work um and they include putting together a spreadsheet of everything that's going on all the resources looking for the gaps and then um putting together a plan for doing the communications and working with people that are on the ground working with with folks that know the folks it's the trusted person so there's there's work that is happening kind of at the the Grassroots level with boots on the ground with people that know the people that are affected um that is going on and um I think we can um renew the sanctuary City uh statement but um but just know that this work is going on and it is focusing on people that um that may not have um documentation and are

[301:03] monolingual so it's happening um there is work going on and I just wanted to let everybody know that um I'll be on a conference call on um Friday at noon um and um yeah if anybody else is interested in participating I can make sure that you get the information thank you Mary so um I I think in addition to doing the sanctuary City redeclaration and I don't think that will take long um in the sense that it's already drafted so it's not a lot of Staff time uh we can have someone read it if they would like at one of our meetings uh so it could be five minutes uh I think there's another declaration that I just learned today that um mayor Hancock did in Denver that I think we should think about which is there have been threats and assaults against people of Asian descent whether they're

[302:00] actually Asian Nationals or Asian Americans and so there's a declaration of solidarity um with people who are are residents who may be um being verbally or physically assaulted based on perceptions around the Corona virus so Jane I'll just forward that to you tomorrow andk take a look at that but sure would Council be interested in in doing that probably at the same time okay it seems like there's lots of yeses here so we will just kind of pair those together if that's okay because they're both kind of covid responses um and those will say yes we're going to do unless I hear any objections um hearing none let's move on to cyclovia so Aon why don't I hand this one to you if you'd like sure thanks Sam well so you know

[303:01] cyio is the the concept is um taking a street and using it um just for uh non-motorized Transportation uh on either a um a you know just for a couple hour for a few hours or maybe uh more permanently so the thought being that while um Auto traffic is way way down in the city and um that it might provide a way for folks to to get around town um uh more healthy sorry I'm I am sick and I'm really tired so I'm not expressing it very well but but whether there's some possibility of doing this as a regular thing or or during this time of reduced automobile traffic and I've been in contact with uh Hillary Griffith who I think was the coordinator of the uh Green Street when we had this like I don't know six or eight years ago um that this was done as an annual thing for one day and I know she's very interested in helping out and taking that up so um obviously Transportation

[304:00] needs to be focused on crisis areas but if they do have some time available this might be something we could take up great Rachel do you want to add to that sure um eron I I thought you did great even if um not feeling well um I think there's a couple of Transportation suggestions that we've been receiving one and we got a a noteb from Bill Cowern on why it wasn't super feasible but was um converting pedestrian push buttons to being automated so that people don't have to push them to get the walk sign it's just the the bag button turns automated um and I understand there was a staff time and cost concern there but I don't think we had the chance to talk through it here um and then yeah I think there's I was just gonna say I can put that down as another item if we want to talk through okay so I had just had like kind of Transportation but um yeah that's on on um the conver

[305:03] issue I think that it it helps with traffic calming and gives people more social distancing space options for walking and it's um something that I think we could pilot you know with just a a couple streets maybe that make sense and I don't know if we could get some Community volunteer support to help make it happen but I think it's it's worth looking at can I jump in on this one please yeah so the um when Hillary and others were involved in the covia a number of years ago it actually took a lot of time of staff and it was expensive to get all of the barricades and to staff it and stuff like that and so um while it was really fun it it was abandoned because of all the effort that it took to make it successful now part of it was I'm sure the the event organizer was trying to

[306:02] get like yoga shops and other people to have fun activities on the closed street but simply the closure of the street is not a top priority for us during this time so obviously I could have um our staff report back on what it would take but it it is more time consuming than putting up a few barricades because it it can be dangerous if cars don't follow the rules rules so I I just want you to know that this is less easy than it sounds by far okay so if it's okay Rachel I'm going to separate your two ideas they are both Transportation um PCH okay Mary maybe it's more of a comment but so we just spent about half an hour talking about construction sites and people

[307:01] being too close together and landscapers and all that stuff and so it sounds to me like what we're trying to create here may be something that attracts crowds and that was what Cobia did you know back in the Hillary Griffith um green streets days um it was all about attracting people and you know creating kind of a fun space um so I would fear that we would be kind of doing something that would be counter to what the current condition are um am minable to Aon yeah so Mary those are those are great points but I think the idea of this one would be very different I mean that that was a a onday event that was an event and was designed to attract

[308:00] crowds and it had vendors and it had all kinds of fun stuff and I think the the intention of this and and other cities are are doing it across the country and the world is is to repurpose some space for cars uh for for pedestrians and bicyclists instead and part of the idea is that it's a large enough space like a whole road that um that you don't need to be near people um so it's not just a bike lane it's not just a sidewalk but it's a wide space and if it were done not as a one-day fun thing but as something that was fairly regular then um then it would not necessarily um attract crowds that would overwhelm the space so we'd have to take those into account and and I'll just say Jane I totally get that the the department is busy um but maybe there could be a thought of how this could be done in the sort of minimal staff time possible way particularly if these um measures are going to stretch on for months thank you thanks

[309:00] so it sounds like we've just got comments going out I I would I would just put out there that I think many of the cities where this is being done are cities that may not have our path Network and so on and our and the bike Lanes I mean it sounds great but if I were to think about 20 is plenty or Vision zero kind of work I guess I'm going to um come down on the this is a an idea that if we get to it fine I just wouldn't want to prioritize it higher than some of the the work that we've already got going on to protect pedestrians and and cyclists and so on so uh anyone else want to comment on this I have more um not go forward comments than I do go forward anyone else want to weigh in okay um okay so I think we're we're to the not right now um stage of the the

[310:00] conversation so I don't I don't see us going forward with this anytime soon um it it would be nice um but if we do come out of it the question would be do we want to make it permanent and I think there would be a whole um sense of loss if we put it in and then took it away as well anyhow uh next is do you want to talk about the B buttons Rachel sure can um I think the theory is that by hitting the buttons you are introducing another source where the pathogen can be transferred so by eliminating the need to do that um it's just another spot that people aren't having to touch so it's a health and safety concern um I I have some question about the wanting to make sure that um it's it would be rolled out equitably if it were rolled out at all and I understand there's some staff time as Jane's pointing out which is at a a

[311:00] special premium right now now so not insensitive to that but I think the the theory is you know you have to hit the button as a pedestrian to get the light to change for you and cars do not have to do that it just automatically turns green for cars and so um we're causing people who are out and walking and biking to have to have an extra um possible point of exposure that make sense and I have a qu it makes sense yep I have a question from juny yes um I think that's a real concern what is brought up I just don't know if staff can get to it in time but I was wondering if staff is not able to get to it in time is it possible to switch or traffic system instead of people touching anything that it automatically um allow pedestrian to

[312:02] cross if that makes sense meaning that you don't have to touch anything just that at certain times it just there's like a time for pedestrian to walk basically does that make sense yeah that's exactly what what we're we're proposing is that it would become automatic rather than something that you have to touch right yeah yeah it does make sense and the same um issue would play out there as well we have to go to every one of the signals and change them to make that happen I mean you you can imagine a a technology solution to this which was some kind of sensor when somebody was standing by but I don't think there's any time to get to that anytime soon you know that would be expense and certainly have to scope it um Aaron and then Bob oh sorry Mary Mary wants to point

[313:02] out that bill took a look at that and said it was not advisable and then Aaron and Bob so thanks for bringing it back up Rachel I I read Bill's explanation and it made sense but I think part of the point there was how many of them there were and how long it would take to do all of them and that that was not feasible given the impact I I just wonder if it's if it's possible to to pick some of the you know five or 10 of the busiest intersections um and do it there so not everywhere just some of the most important ones yeah Bob yeah so let me just build off with what eron just said um you know in my daily walks around my neighborhood I occasionally need to push one of those buttons and those buttons work perfectly fine if you touch it with your elbow or through a glove or you don't have to touch it with your fingers or your hand and so maybe this is just an

[314:01] education component maybe Jane instead of reprogramming lights we can just have Bill's team make up some signs and to eron's point maybe we we we start with the um most um interacted crosswalks first and I don't know how many if we do 10 of them or hundred of them but maybe it's as simple as making up a sign and T taping it to the pole and said say when you push the button don't use your hand use your I know that's very low Tech but it's it's probably something that can be done pretty easily Mary so I was kind of thinking the same thing Bob um because that's what I've been doing when I actually get to those lights um you can actually cross Broadway mid block right now yeah little traffic um just saying and um but I you know in terms of not doing them all is who decides which ones we do what criteria do we use if it's just volume

[315:02] of people um then where you know is there a place where somebody needs it more but they're just isn't the volume and um you know I just I don't there's just not that much traffic right now that I think um warrants this I think you could even just cross at those lights um without even using your elbow because there truly is so little traffic um so um I think it's a nice idea but I think in all practicality um there are much bigger things that we can be doing and um putting effort and time into like the 20 is plenty yep U Mark yeah I I I agree with Rachel on the health benefits of doing this but I'm

[316:00] very very reluctant to burden and overburdened uh staff and and workers with another task I I um I think the incremental benefits are are just not worth the amount of work that would be required to achieve it and I found uh Bill's memo to be fairly persuasive on that point great and then here I've got juny also with all said I'm worried that we may be in incentivizing community members to go out there but I understand sometimes people may need to go to the grocery store so just by the sense of council I'm going to assume that we're not moving forward with this one it doesn't seem to have uh a majority who are interested in it so I think with that do we have any more ideas that we want to talk about for additional programs for covid response I just want to emphasize for

[317:00] 47 that we have done a whole lot for covid response including shutting down the university schools um shutting down bars and restaurants and we have a stay-at-home order in place there's a a person I don't have his first name named Murray who's been one of the authorities on the covid response and those are the four things that he has listed that are the most effective to do and the only remaining question is is our stay-at-home mortar effective enough or not but I I just want to say that I think we have taken as far as health and safety go the the best practices responses um as a community and as a state and so I think we can all be proud that we have done this pretty early in the development of this Scourge in our community um so there is that we can still continue to try and do better and I think we should um but we have we've got a good start in

[318:01] and appreciate all staff's work and getting us here opening the East Boulder Community Center was hard to get done it is apparently been done very well Mary spoke to me about it and said she had a great time so Mary you are not a great time but she was impressed with what she saw there so I think our community has been responding very well Mary I you know I just want to give kudos to um Kurt's staff and everybody that has worked on that um CRC because it is it's phenomenal it just it it blew me away just down to the N detail how much thought has been put into it and the execution is um impeccable um and the way that the community has come forward to volunteer um and all the staff members

[319:00] that are it's just it it it blew me away and I just you know if there are ever any thoughts um about I mean I I just think this project is something that is likely something that's award-winning because it is just so incredibly um thoughtful thank you um Aaron you don't have a comment now it sounds like okay um so we had two more buckets that Bob and I come up with just as ways to organize the discussion I I think we're done with them but one is City finances um does anyone feel like we need to have more conversation around City finances for covid response tonight okay I don't see anything or hear anything and then the last was economic recovery I think we also touched on that with the cares act and

[320:00] several other things um one thing I didn't say earlier was because of the disaster declaration over the weekend the national disaster declaration for Colorado um we're eligible for FEMA funding as well so there's a bucket that we're going to have to be thinking about there as well anybody else have anything on economic recovery okay seeing none I will say that we are done with that agenda item and good work at everyone I thought that was a pretty thorough conversation then the next question is do we have it in us to finish out the board and commission appointments okay Mark no okay uh we've been at it we've been at it now for five and a half hours I I

[321:02] I don't think our thinking is going to be particularly crisp oh we need to take you back to the early days of 2014 and uh so so Mary has a suggestion and I would be willing to move forward with this she suggests that we do Transportation Advisory Board I kind of agree with that as I looked over my list that was the one that I was kind of regretting we didn't get to so if we do tab tonight and call it good we can come back to the rest later um Aaron and mirbi do you have one more in you okay I'm gonna take no screaming as a yes let's go to Tab and see if we can get tab done okay so who would like to lead off we have two seats and if staff can bring it up that would be great um wow look at

[322:01] that you guys are so on top of it um so we have two seats available um we have a two-year and a fiveyear and so let's get going who would like to um make a nomination okay we have Lauren Lambert we have Brian Dolan um we have David Martin we have Brent Hy I'm going to throw out Robert Hutchinson okay let me get my notes going here uh so Mir by you nominated Brian why don't you start with him yeah um so I think a lot of people got to know Brian because he ran for

[323:00] count uh he's basically a native to the town so he's seen it change over the years I think he's understanding of the fact that there's family members who um that that families exist in Boulder as well as people who have other ways of transportation so understanding that we need a holistic approach um rather than just one-sided approach is going to be a huge benefit um and having some of the history I think with how our town operates is a huge plus um having being a uh father of a young child I think understanding the safety that concerns that face our pedestrians and our bikers um is going to be a really important um point that he will bring to the table so I just think that he um has really gotten involved and shown a lot of um willingness to give back to the community um still being a younger person himself and um working and you

[324:02] know he's I sorry I'm pretty tired at this point so I'm not being the most clear but I I just think he's going to be a really big asset to tab at this point with his experience and and what he um does in his daily life so very good and then Bob Lauren sure um I'll speak to both Lauren personally and also her role her role is um she's I think Community Affairs for Google and Google of course is one of our largest employers and is growing and um I think it's important for our large employers to be part of the solution of some of the problems that are created by virtue of the fact they have a lot of employees Google's already um uh uh piloted some constructive solutions that I think are probably scalable and could be done by some of our other large employers and so I'd like to have Lauren bring those solutions to the table I'd also like to um have Google engaged in um other solutions that haven't occurred

[325:00] to them so I I think she wears that hat um and then secondly Lauren's just a delightful person she's she's um a very great communicator she used to work for governor Hickenlooper she understands the in ins and outs of government and I think that she will be a smart and engaged person on our transportation Advisory Board both in her personal capacity and and as a representative of Google very good thank you Bob and Mary Dave Martis so Dave um I just love his Transportation omnivore um comment B but he's um he's applied several times before um I think he would be the perfect replacement for Johnny drack who um represented um a person um well he lived out in Gun Barrel so he kind of came from the perspective of someone who has to drive sometimes and um and I think we need that perspective

[326:01] um on this board it's a very necessary perspective um and um he talked about the the jobs housing balance so he's aware of how um commuters impact our transportation and um would like to address that and he also talked about um you know using carrots with sticks and um I think um you know we always encourage people to apply again and he's I think this is about his third or fourth time that he's applied to the transportation Advisory Board and I think he would um fill a needed um perspective on that board Rachel I am nominating Brent Hy um he comes sort of um the opposite of the uh car perspective from The Pedestrian Advisory Board background

[327:01] um he does do some driving but bikes mostly he sounded like a very well-rounded candidate um but recognized sort of the urgency of Transportation Solutions and our need to innovate um also talked about things like parking fees and needing to shift the balance away from cars and taking some bold steps and having political courage which I think is um critical we we do need um visionary leadership on Transportation who have the courage to act um so I strongly um support Brent and I'm proud to nominate him great Mark did Robert Hutchinson as well go ahead Mark Mark W yeah I'm here um you know Robert Hutchinson has worked for the Department of energy uh he's a Stanford MBA he's had a lot of experience with Rocky Mountain instit

[328:01] and at Rocky M Institute he ran the mobility team um he's got a good business background I think he's going to be very knowledgeable and practical about the you know forward-looking Transportation Solutions I'm very happy to nominate him okay and we'll do the last one and then we have some clarification uh Stephen hadel from Junior Joseph yes I just wanted to say I really think when I was sitting there listening to all the interviews I thought all the candidates were amazing I I think Brian Dolan is really great and I I think he's just great um and the way he answered a lot of the questions and also Lauren Lambert I thought was really good in the way she answered her question but the person I nominate today Stephen because I felt that as someone who believe in Big Ideas I'm a person of Big Ideas I appreciate the fact that Stephen A lot of his were very localized they were

[329:02] very specific to communities and I think that's what we need we need people who consider the community and see how we can do Transportation better and you also mentioned free Transit and I think that's important because we on Council we talk a lot about equity and and I think free transport free Transit is also plays an important role and making Transportation a lot more Equitable to all community members and He also mentioned engineering as a solution so he's really really thinking hard about the solutions to Transportation so I think he would be a great addition to the to the board very good and just to be clear um the slide is missing one seat so there is one seat for a five-year term and then there is one seat available for a two-year term so we'll be appointing two folks tonight and so I think the way

[330:00] that we're going to want to do this is start with the five-year term we have six nominees and let before we get going um does anyone want to speak who has not already spoken about one of the candidates okay I'm G to weigh in real quick I think Robert Hutchinson is an unbelievable find and that he's willing to do work for our transportation Advisory Board is amazing um his breath of experience working in dozens of different cities to look at and work on their transportation problems and come up with novel Solutions is I think really important and I think he you know he has no acts to grind in any sense of the word he is really just all about how do we reduce carbon emissions in the transportation sector as fast as we can and increase Mobility so that's my thought um so let's begin um how are we doing Miss Lynette

[331:01] well you've been kind of doing them all together so we could start from the bottom if you'd like yep that would be great and so I guess it doesn't matter we've been doing them all together that's right I'm I'm still stuck in the old days so everyone write in who you would like for the five-year term yeah fiveyear term first Adam so I have let's make sure I count this right

[332:00] one two three four for Lambert I [Music] have two for Robert and I'm gonna add mine to that so that's three and then I have one for David Martis and Rachel must be another Lambert let's see Lauren Lambert Lauren for help me folks I count four for Lambert is that correct I count three for Hutch one for David which doesn't add up oh juny there you go okay so the way I see this no one gets the vote and so it's down to Lauren Lambert and Robert Hutchinson in a runoff is that right Lynette that's

[333:02] correct okay so between Lauren Lambert and Robert Hutchinson for the five-year term write your votes in please so nearby I see a yes from you is that yes that was correct I assume Okay so we've got Lauren is one two three 4 see four for Lauren again and then Robert Robert Robert so I see four for Hutch and I'm I'm I'm missing one one two three four five six seven yes somebody hasn't voted yet that's me and okay well well you can pick between Lauren or Robert Hutchinson

[334:00] Lauren Lambert or Robert Hutchinson okay Lauren okay Lauren it is so Lauren gets a five-year term and then I would assume well let's let's open it up so I think the way we do this is we open it up again and we vote for who do we put into the two-year term everybody's available except for Lauren to vote for so let's vote who would we like to see for the two-year term okay and then where do I start here so she said Lauren Robert Robert Robert I see three Roberts Roberts Bob Mark okay there's a fourth okay and then I'll be the fifth for Robert so there we go Robert

[335:01] Hutchinson gets the two-year term so we've appointed Lauren Lambert and Robert Hutchinson to the transportation Advisory Board and I agree um this was an incredibly incredibly Rich Board of applicants as well so that was another board where we have tons of of expertise and great applicants so thank you all I move that we ratify that appointment if somebody seconds that great and so if there are any oppose speak up now no oppose so that's ratified so that is good to go the we have go who who I don't remember who was the second juny I think no Mary Mary was okay Mary okay so as I look over the boards we have left 1 two 3 4 five six 7 eight nine 10 we have 10

[336:01] boards left and I assure you they will go much faster than tonight's did because there are a lot less applicants for them so we will postpone that and do that sometime our last issue tonight is uh discussion a future council meeting study session schedules and open comment frequency and so what this is is just to make sure that we're good with converting all of our April meetings to regular or emergency meetings and and so I think basically this is just are we good with what we just had at the work plan discussions so if anybody's got any question about that um the follow on question uh is the frequency of open comment cac's suggestion was we do open comment at the first and third meeting of every month as usual and then the special meetings we don't take um open comment so

[337:01] any objection to that CAC suggestion all right seeing none any debrief or other comments All right well I apologize we didn't get out by 10 but thank you all for what I think is a very very good meeting um in difficult circumstances we got a lot done and so thank you all very much um have a good night everyone the meeting is [Music] adjourned Live from Paris of F [Music] vanad that inadequate safety measures could be countering their efforts to stem the disease and it's dampening once again hopes that the Corona virus

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