February 18, 2020 — City Council Regular Meeting

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[0:00] make Vogler such a vibrant and evolving community by creating the climate mobilization action plan we double down on our commitment to fight the global climate emergency by increasing our affordable housing goal to include middle-income families and by beginning construction on 30 Pearl we have continued our mission to create more affordable housing the city's first neighborhood Green Street on 13th Street was completed as part of the low stress walk and bike Network plan we finalized the planned acquisition of a 25 acre conservation easement on Long's garden in North Boulder one of the last working agricultural properties in the city municipal ordinance language was updated to become more gender inclusive in addition our main library's restrooms underwent major renovations to be inclusive for all library users we closed out the year with the adoption of a racial equity resolution which solidifies our commitment to becoming more welcoming and inclusive as a city the year was not without challenges but they were faced head-on and used as

[1:01] learning opportunities to help us become the community we desire Boulder has an important role to play in welcoming supporting and serving people of diverse backgrounds in our community and in government processes in 2018 we embarked on a journey with the government Alliance on race and equity to understand the role institutional racism has played in perpetuating current racial inequities in our nation and here in Boulder the creation and perpetuation of racial inequities is embedded into government at all levels focusing on promoting equity so that everyone is valued respected and heard offers many benefits the city of Boulder is committed to leading with our values changing employee perceptions and behaviors first and then expanding beyond the city organization and extending the impact into the community the adoption of the city's first racial equity resolution solidifies councils commitment to advance racial equity and

[2:00] opportunities for all this is one of many important steps that we will take as we work to make our community one that feels truly safe welcoming and inclusive speaking on behalf of council we look to following up on a resolution with a robust racial equity work plan developed in collaboration with our community this commitment extends to those who live here now and in the future as well as to those who called Buller home long before we arrived Native Americans have a deep connection to the boulder area that we respect and support in 2019 the city of Boulder resumed government-to-government tribal consultations with 13 federally recognized American Indian tribes by renewing our relationships and efforts to acknowledge the past good as well as bad we are making our communities stronger with an equity focus in mind the Police Department released its first full year of data on police officer stops of community members this work

[3:02] began in 2016 based on a recommendation from consultant Hillard Hines which recommended we track police stop data to better understand who officers interacted with and to identify opportunities to ensure equitable treatment in order to capture this important data the department purchased a new records management system and adopted a new data collection process even this first year of data provides valuable insights about how our police interact not just with our resident community but with the many people who live study work and visit Boulder City Council engaged in a community listening session following an interaction between an african-american college student and members of the city's police department after the student was approached while picking up trash in his yard personal stories were shared by people from a variety of races ethnicities as well as perspectives of family members with

[4:00] mixed-race backgrounds this led to the creation of a police oversight task force this group analyzed various models of community oversight for police departments and then recommended to City Council the model that they believed would work best in Boulder City Council gave unanimous final approval to recommendations from the police oversight task force to install an auditor monitor in 2020 and beyond to investigate complaints against officers along with a panel of community members to assist the city in understanding the lived experience of diverse community members especially in relation to policing 20-19 capped the world's hottest decade in recorded history we know why and had the power to do something about it while countries from the world met at the United Nations climate action summit to discuss climate change the city of Boulder declared a climate emergency this resolution acknowledges the existence of a global climate emergency and recognizes the

[5:01] importance of local action to protect and enhance the well-being of current and future generations hundreds of community members have provided feedback to help us determine the next generation of strategies that we should undertake as a community it will be exciting we continue our pursuit of electric utility municipal ization as a path toward cleaner renewable energy sources for the purpose of reducing greenhouse gas emissions other benefits we are seeking through managing our own electric utility are a more resilient local electrical grid and more input into our energy system operation by our engaged and knowledgeable community a major milestone in our local power project which was four years in the making is the authorization from the Colorado Public Utilities Commission to transfer assets necessary for the creation of a local electric utility in 2020 a primary task for the city's local Power team will be to develop an increasingly clear

[6:01] picture of the cost to create a city run electric utility in parallel we have been active in pushing for state and federal legislation and with our partners in Colorado cities for climate action we have assisted in getting legislation passed it helps to achieve climate goals set out as part of our municipal ization and climate commitment efforts well we have pursued a local electric utility and state legislation to reduce fossil fuels we also have made substantial changes to our own infrastructure several city facilities were upgraded to be more environmentally sound upgrades to the 'but a so water treatment plan resulted in a 20% improvement in filter efficiencies reduced chemical usage and successful ongoing management and disposal of water treatment residuals solar panels at the Bolar reservoir water treatment plant now bring the total generation at the site 21.92 megawatts which is approximately 75% of

[7:01] the total electrical use at the facility an additional 2.5 megawatts of solar are currently being constructed on other city facilities for new electric buses were ordered keeping us on track to meet our goal of a 100% electric city fleet by the year 2030 over the past year we conducted dozens of projects to help protect and restore open spaces high quality natural areas which are among the most biologically diverse in the western United States we planted 486 new public trees including 37 different species improving canopy diversity and sustainability to continue to improve our innovative public land legacy open space and mountain parks adopted its first master plan shaped from community input this plan will guide the management of over 45,000 acres of open space over the next decade and beyond

[8:00] safety and resilience are two pillars of a healthy community in order to ensure our first responders safety and ability to effectively serve the community in times of emergency they need a clear and reliable radio system in 2017 voters approved dedicating a portion of sales tax revenue to this infrastructure project in 2019 we installed a portion of the new radio system infrastructure that will allow first responders to be able to better communicate with one another during emergencies improving Community Safety has been and continues to be a high priority vision zero is a bold goal to eliminate all serious injury and fatal traffic crashes involving people using all modes of travel protecting the health of our community members means addressing risky behaviors through engineering education enforcement and ongoing evaluation in 2019 the transportation master plan was updated to reflect our

[9:00] community's vision for a transportation system that supports the city's sustainability and resilience goals this plan will guide the city's transportation division core services and investments in operations maintenance and capital programs including system enhancements our three for three parking pilot program will continue throughout 2020 making weeknight parking downtown more affordable in any of our five downtown city parking garages after 3 p.m. and until 3 a.m. Monday through Friday for only $3 designed to meet the needs of our service workers who may not be well served by public transit the pilot program allows evening and night workers to park near work affordably and easily without worrying about parking meters time limits or snow the city's first neighborhood Green Street on 13th Street was completed as part of the low stress walk and bike Network plan the city installed safety signage and paint markings to improve the safety and

[10:01] comfort of people walking and biking in this corridor a 2020 council priority is to continue thorough reviews of design and construction standards looking for opportunities to integrate safety principles more deeply into how we design our sidewalks streets and bike facilities living in Boulder we know that a wildfire is not a matter of if but when that is why Boulder Fire Rescue implemented a comprehensive program to assess homes located in areas of higher risk for wildfires near the urban wildland interface these free assessments give homeowners recommendations to improve their ability to mitigate risks that improve resiliency and save lives approximately 50 of these assessments have been completed in addition 600 curbside assessments were conducted that helped the fire department pre plan in the event of an emergency looking at our long-term community sustainability we continue to make affordable housing a key priority in

[11:01] 2019 we expanded the city's affordable housing goal from 10% to 15% of all residential properties as permanently affordable of which 1,000 to be deed restricted middle-income homes the 15% goal has a target completion date by 2035 currently 7.9 percent of homes in the city are permanently affordable important progress was made on development projects furthering the city's commitment to creating and preserving diverse housing options in Boulder we added 37 permanently affordable homes in August and are close to completing an additional 98 homes in December ground was broken at 30 Pearl our newest affordable housing community this project is a collaborative effort between Boulder housing partners and the city once completed 120 affordable homes will bring 1.3 million dollars in annual rent relief to low-income households this project represents the highest

[12:02] percentage of permanently affordable housing of any prior developments in the city a manufactured housing strategy was formally adopted and identifies guiding principles and a prioritized list of actions by the city park residents and park owners to further Boulder valley comprehensive plan policies we've recognized the importance of manufactured housing as an option for many households and encouraged the preservation of existing mobile home parks and the development of new manufactured home parks including increasing opportunities for resident owned parks not to be forgotten is the final approval of the Alpine balsam area plan which reflects many community values and strikes a balance on intensity form and use to ensure the area remains a lively neighborhood Center work on the East Boulder sub community plan will continue in 2020 we anticipate that a final plan that will guide decision making in the sub community as it evolves in the coming

[13:00] years will be approved by the end of 2020 everyone in Boulder should have the opportunity to achieve or maintain a safe stable home in our community national evidence demonstrates that housing opportunities are the most effective way to reduce the impacts of homelessness on individuals and commune through coordinated efforts aligned with our homelessness strategy 354 adults exited homelessness last year coordinated entry is the first stop and a key element of the adult homeless service system included in the goals for the city of Boulder homelessness strategy coordinated entry is a national best practice and has been implemented countywide with standardized procedures all homeless adults seeking services enter through a limited number of community entry points where they are assessed with common screening tools and matched with appropriate service and housing paths we continue to expand the pathways to permanent housing and increase access

[14:02] to programs and services that are based on best practice and data-driven results in 2019 through year-round and severe weather shelter programs seventy three thousand three hundred and eight shelter bed nights of stay were provided to adult individuals we will continue to work with the Boulder shelter for the homeless Bridge house and other community partners to improve system services in a challenging environment of constrained resources from V newsletters to mobile apps we worked hard to introduce new and convenient ways to stay informed about the things that matter most to you we strengthened relationships with community partners and piloted community connectors to ensure more inclusive engagement breaking down barriers to public participation especially for underrepresented communities is something that we continue to strive for because we know better decisions are made when we receive input from our entire community building on the success

[15:00] of chats with council the city hosted four walks with council inviting community members to stroll with city leaders and discuss public issues we had meaningful conversations with community members and learned a lot each year one chat has been in Spanish this has led to a new and exciting spinoff program for 2020 called conversaciones con la sua Dada at Sacred Heart of Jesus school the city of Boulder was named USA organization of the year an international organization of the Year by the International Association of public participation I a p2 these prestigious awards recognize the value of the city's work over the past two years to create a culture of more meaningful and inclusive engagement in Boulder these awards are rooted in the hard work of staff and our community to shape a new culture of engagement and especially in councils commitment to continual improvement in this area we look forward to building on this successful start together Forbes

[16:02] magazine has named the city of Boulder among the best employers in Colorado our willingness to assess our own internal operations in the name of continuous growth and improvement make the city of Boulder a great place to work in 2019 we renewed our focus on equity diversity and inclusion in recruitment and hiring while our work is far from over we have seen positive outcomes at the police department an accelerated and improved hiring process resulted in 24 new police officers being hired for our female and to our Latino X another vision we have been working hard to bring to life is the desire to provide a world-class community telecommunications infrastructure in Boulder for the 21st century and beyond broadband connectivity is a critical infrastructure service for the quality of modern life as is the case with roads water sewer and electricity it is exciting to report that in 2019 the

[17:00] fiber-optic backbone design was completed construction of 65 miles of fiber is expected to start early this year this asset will be used for city and select community purposes rather than provide residential and commercial services in the short term in the long term this infrastructure could support gigabyte Speed Internet services to homes businesses and various city applications in 2019 Boulder was also recognized as the best small city in the world best arts community for midsize cities most fitness friendly and America's best bike cities these accolades are a direct result a meaningful and impactful accomplishments over the past 12 months our accomplishments were made possible because of the support from the boulder community in 2020 we will continue to implement the multi-year projects already underway and focus on the city's long-term financial sustainability finalizing a flood mitigation plan in South Boulder balancing housing and jobs

[18:01] growth with master plans to ensure we have adequate infrastructure capacity addressing homelessness and increasing racial equity are just some of councils top priority on behalf of your city government thank you for your support and participation in 2019 and we look forward to serving you throughout 2020 [Music] [Music]

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[29:25] [Applause] welcome everyone to the February 18th Boulder City Council meeting council member bracket present council member friend here Joseph president Nagle here Wallach Weaver yes present I don't know we need to officially do this or not but

[30:01] we talked to see you see this morning about combining 6a and 7 B so if we could have a motion to amend the agenda so moved second all in favor first tell me or is it becoming 6a together yes okay yeah it was close okay and so just to let people know the state of the city 30 today and it will continue to be played throughout the week and then shall we do open comment [Applause]

[31:18] okay so this Kevon ohm Sammy Lawrence and Patrick Murphy if you come up you have two minute each my name is Vincent Calvin and I'm one of many Boulder residents that cares about climate change and especially how to mitigate it as quickly and effectively as possible and I want to thank everybody on the City Council and all the city employees who have been working to address climate change because it is a very serious issue as we all know and because electricity use is one of the biggest

[32:00] sources of greenhouse gases I support the many measures the city has been taking to lower emissions for from our electricity use and I support the city's continued work on municipal ization and I support more competition for electric generation which would hopefully enable us the ability to more quickly lower emissions by utilizing the many thousands of megawatts of renewable energy potential there is here in Colorado that's just waiting to be developed there this renewable energy is cheaper cleaner and more sustainable than the vast majority of the electricity that's currently on our systems and Xcel Energy has been making progress but we need to move much much faster than they are willing to go and having practiced as an attorney before the Colorado Public Utilities Commission I know how slow and expensive

[33:00] that process is and that's all the more reason why we want to have our own municipal utility that would keep us out of that process and enable our City Council to drive change more quickly as well as keeping more of our money here and not patenting Excel shareholders pockets and I believe that the city is able to run a safe carbon free and resilient electric utility as many other cities do across the country and thank you again for everything you're doing in your power to mitigate climate change and if there's anything I can do to help just let me know thanks Thank You Vincent Samuel Lawrence and then Ryan Milligan and Patrick Murphy no Sammy so Ryan Milligan Patrick Murphy and Patricia Carden okay Patrick Murphy

[34:05] Patricia Carden and Nolan George [Music] my name is Patrick Murphy I live in Boulder this is the continuation of the 24 articles of the Muni naughty list article 13 costly legal missteps at the

[35:02] district court level and at the FERC wasting four years Boulder tried to go to condemnation at the district court without any details on what was to be condemned the nice judge just said go away and deal with the PUC Boulder tried to get the FERC to start working on stranded cost but the FERC just said go back to the PUC and come back later as an attempt to cover this foolishness Boulder lawyers said they wanted to make sure the stranded cost could be made in installments even though this was well defined in order 888 from 1996 we lost many years and loss of legal fees trying to avoid going to the PUC article 14 numerous costly missteps at the PUC this comedy of errors could be a book by itself of what not to do I guess it has taken three or four attempts and helps to find Boulder as a slow learner the

[36:00] word excited got overused and repeated dozens of times the first time Boulder went to the PUC excitement is no substitute for competence article 15 blaming all these missteps on the PC in Excel rather than poor Boulder leadership and legal decisions the PUC and Excel aren't mean they're just sane and not bamboozled by Boulder arrogance and ineptitude time has demonstrated self-critical review is not a Muni characteristic is it a skill you possess and Boulder can learn to be continued with article 16 through 24 and Thank You mr. Murphy Sammy Lawrence has just arrived in the meet okay quick thing thank you this

[37:04] wasn't a part of my original speech but I want to say thank you for accommodating me I appreciate it you think that being said accountability it starts with us today's City Council is going to hear about a proposed ordinance change with the reasoning that the requirement is problematic in the terms of enforcement for officers I entered you today my opposition to this in unison with the n-double-a-cp on the grounds that removal of this subsection put civilians at risk and as well as infringes on our First Amendment rights furthermore impersonally a removal of the subsection will go against councils direct to goals of removing opportunities for systemic racism and discrimination in our city this ordinance when utilized properly provides our citizens with their knowledge that we as a community seek to be accountable with policing 8-feet is more than enough space for an officer to do their work while at the same time ensuring that proper care is taken by

[38:00] concerned citizens specifically I myself with my arms raised to the top of my toes would be almost eight feet it would not be hard to specify an area that is roughly eight feet back for anyone with basic reasoning skills the ordinance language removal would further empower vagueness of law and allow officers to potentially harm citizens while infringing on our First Amendment rights 2019 is hot our city why we need aspects of law like this in place without these documentation we as a city would not be growing in the direction we are going now I personally find the foot roll amenable especially because I've repeatedly utilized it without an officer even addressing me about the ordinance or if they did they did with respect and care / acknowledgement for my disabilities well most of them anyways I can respect for the witness officers conducting business when they're doing it properly even if vocalize my mile AG of agreement with documentation I recommend this matter be tabled until the task force is fully enforced to ensure accountability furthermore much like the

[39:01] task force creation this needs to be a community involved decision thank you again and also thank you again for accommodating me seriously I appreciate it thank you Sammy Patricia Cardin Noland George and Mark l-band good evening my name is Patricia Cardin I live at 350 Ponca Place and south boulder honorable mayor and city council members I'm speaking tonight to address again my concern for the safety of South Boulder residents who continue to remain vulnerable to flooding this is a picture of the sudden flood that came upon us at our residents after which garage is filled with water etc so much damage was done and life's put at risk I would like to

[40:00] take this opportunity though to personally thank the PI the City Council members who in their goals for accomplishment this year included resolution of this long safety concern as a priority though it seems to me that the safety of South was older residents and the resolution of this issue needs to be uppermost and all of your responsibilities and priorities I also appreciate the work that has gone into the preparation of the 188 pages or more as the agenda for next Tuesday study session devoted to this issue as that is discussed I request serious consideration of the 100-year mitigation design mentioned that last month's update which as I understand will allow at a minimum a warning of rising flood waters enabling residents to evacuate and also

[41:01] on the paper pages for next week with regard to the consideration of the proposed land swap I am disappointed it is even being considered as for many reasons this would only delay the resolution for many more years this is unconscionable I would venture that many millions of dollars have already been spent on studying this issue why spend more thank you Thank You Nolan George mark del band and Laura Tyler hello my name is Nolan George and I'm a sophomore at cu-boulder my reason for being here today is to address the ongoing crisis of climate change although most individuals associate climate change with slow-moving effects the summertime fires in California and

[42:00] Australia that caused society hundreds of billions of dollars speak otherwise these events are evidence that the effects of climate change are not a future problem but a problem right now despite the hope sustainable technologies like wind solar storage and electric vehicles have generated also fuel companies are still fighting progress towards a low carbon society I'm here today to ask you the people who make up the Boulder City Council to continue to fight against corporate greed in the fossil fuel industry a sustainable future is attainable of policy makers such as yourselves continue to take initiative to lead the change climate change is a problem we cannot afford to avoid with that said I would like to thank you for all of your existing contributions toward I'm a change and declaring climate change as an emergency and I would like to thank you for your time thank you mr. George Marc Elbe and Laura Tyler and Cathy Joyner so my bad I didn't get my presentation to staff on time mark L van

[43:01] 505 I do want to talk about the definition of legal non-conforming because I'm afraid that too many of you don't really understand your own zoning rules so a legal non-conforming use is the use of land or a structure that was legally established according to the applicants zoning and building laws of the time but which does not meet current zoning and building standards and then also understand the origin of the phrase neighborhood character which came to mean basically excluding undesirables from certain neighborhoods and those undesirables were immigrants and african-americans prior to the recent election plan Boulder County sent out a tweet that said we prefer a horizontal wall of green space to surround our city it feels extremely distasteful reprehensible even to be joking about a wall when one of those groups that we're talking about keeping out of neighborhoods are immigrants I sent you a map of my neighborhood the Vermont

[44:01] subdivision and the Vermont subdivision I asked what is the character there's 66 Lots 15 homes violate current zoning rules and that doesn't include an assessment of compatible development or solar Shadow 20-plus are non-conforming single-family lot smaller than 7,000 square feet 16 multi-family homes a variety of duplexes triplexes quad flexes multiple homes on one lot and at least four middle-income duplexes have been turned into single-family homes in the past 20 years so I'd like to ask is this really a single-family neighborhood why do we have rules that allow middle-income multi-family housing to be turned into single-family McMansions but not the other way around how come the city is not inventoried in map structures that do not conform to compatible development or solar shadow ordinance how does it make sense to include legal non-conforming and Adu saturation calculations and more sense

[45:02] Thank You mr. Veblen sentence to finish to add density multifamily and neighborhoods like the Vermont subdivision when it was originally built thank you mr. Gale ban or a Tyler Kathy Joyner contemned I'm sorry and Jen Moselle down Marcel good evening counsel and thank you for this opportunity to speak my name is Laura Tyler I'm with the South Boulder Creek Action Group and I've been advocating for flood mitigation at South Boulder Creek since 2013 and this evening we'd like to welcome the new councilmembers Adam sweat like Rachael friend you need Joseph and Mark Wallach yeah thanks for joining us here this evening this is a picture of my car in

[46:00] 2013 and to be honest it's a little embarrassing to me that this has become the poster child for flood mitigation but it does tell the story so in September 2013 my husband and I were busy removing stuff from our basement because we were having some leakage and I looked out the window and took a break and the water was down at the curb level and it looked you know a little scary but okay and then maybe 10 or 15 minutes later after having a quick bite to eat we looked outside and saw that torrent of water essentially south Boulder Creek rerouted itself and when it over tops us 36 it creates a flash flood situation that's like pouring water from a pitcher into a bowl there's no place for that water to go except to fill the bowl and my house is not even at the lowest part of the street there are other people who had it significantly worse than we did and so this is an urgent safety issue

[47:02] there is flash flooding that happens in that neighborhood and I'm here today to urge you to consider at minimum protecting us from the 100-year flood we're looking for 100-year protection because that is legally significant it exceeds what's happening in most of the city of Boulder and it's doable it allows you to collaborate with Cu and to have housing at Cu South much-needed housing for faculty and upper-class students that is adjacent to transportation thank you Thank You Kathy Joyner gone more Zell and heaven rabbits good evening my name is Kathy Joyner I'm from Westminster Colorado I'd like to request again that you view the south boulder creek flood mitigation project

[48:01] with the sense of urgency that is warranted please move with decisive and clear action to ensure the lives and safety are the fundamental concern in all your decision-making the council packet for the upcoming study session includes some I poppin cost estimates of variant 1 options that said there are clear distinctions among the options in the summary tables particularly tables 2 through 5 related to levels of environmental impact overall cost ease of permitting overall size of the dam and impacts to wetlands and threatened and endangered species variant 1 100-year design appears to have favorable evaluations on many of these points for these reasons and for the extraordinary difference in cost compared to the two other options this option appears to have the best potential to move forward quickly please keep in mind that my neighborhood has been living in harm's way for decades not just since 2013 we'd like to know that there's an end to the analysis and

[49:01] skyrocketing costs particularly with 500-year designs that are associated with the numerous iterations of this plan over the past six and a half years we support all levels of design that comply with city state and federal standards all of the three variants that are have been app analyzed do so given that we urge you to choose to move forward with a design that will be the fastest route to safety for thousands of city residents we've all heard the saying don't let the perfect get in the way of the good as we know there is no perfect and while we look for it people remain in harm's way thank you for considering these critical health and safety issues as you make decisions on this project moving forward thank you young more Zell heaven rabbits and Elizabeth black

[50:10] hi good evening my name is Jana Moors el 2075 upland I wanted to talk quickly about housing in Boulder before we can even decide what we think the future of housing should look like in Boulder I think we need to know exactly what what we're looking at currently and I would submit to you that we actually missing one of the most important information namely how do people live in Boulder now I happen to know only one little neighborhood which is my neighborhood because I've lived there for 20 years and I was involved in annexing it can we switch to the next one oh there we go so what I was able to do there is to actually draw a somatic schematically

[51:02] how people live even though this is a single family zoned neighborhood or rezoning you will see there what I've done is the the dark squares are ones that actually single family homes lived in by single family everyone else has a different use so there may be squares that are oops that's fine what you have maybe a duplex or maybe you have a need you or you simply have more people in there that are currently allowed and so if I ate that you can see that out of those homes only 31 percent less than a third are actually single family homes lived in by a single family everybody else lives in community and further if we put this in if you go to the next slide please if we now look at that of all the residents you will see again that that now only a quarter of the residents

[52:01] actually live in so-called single-family the rest in others and among those most surprising to me 21 residents in our little neighborhood live in houses actually don't have a license or not regulated now I think it's actually a positing here and it allows for quite a bit of more room in Boulder before heaven rabbits Elizabeth black and Duncan Gilchrist

[53:02] so national nonprofit map light which has made websites for the League of Women Voters and the California Secretary of State offered Boulder a free online petitioning system for initiatives and referenda the city turned it down but we didn't know the justification until the city elections working group met December 18th could you click on the first sound file city IT director Julia Richman told us see the little speaker icon

[54:03] apparently a lot so you clicked on it and nothing happened did you click on the speaker icon well like most sentence in the city this is a joke so the city IT director told us map light has never built a secure web site and that the free system they offered us included no security protocols but this button does either you give me the next slide the websites that they build every web site today right together public documents into easily readable forms and building

[55:03] these tools was something that they had to subcontract Elizabeth black Duncan Gilchrist and Tim Johnson hi Elizabeth black 43 14 or 13th Street last month I discussed how tillage is hard on soil health but what about water what does extra irrigation water due to soil health and soil carbon sequestration I divided our 96 sample sites in the citizen science soil health project into the same three tillage intensity groups as before zero tillage

[56:02] reduced tillage and conventional tillage there in the column on the left then I divided each tillage group into irrigated or dryland sites depending on whether they got extra water and calculated the median soil health score for each subgroup if you compare median soil health scores in the same tillage category the medians in the blue column the irrigated sites are all higher than the medians in the orange column the dry land sites so supplemental irrigation water boosts soil health scores and soil carbon sequestration dry land sites with conventional tillage have some of the lowest soil health scores these include dry land small grain growers who plow to control weeds in their grain fallow grain rotation irrigated sites with zero tillage have some of the highest soil health scores

[57:00] these include irrigated pastures hay fields and orchards as well as our mountain forests which get more precipitation than the plains water is life we can't live without water and neither can soil microbes extra water grows extra microbes they in turn boost soil health and sequester extra carbon boulders AG water portfolio is an incredibly valuable asset in the fight against climate change because with it we can sequester extra carbon in our soils protecting our irrigated AG lands and our mountain forests is key to carbon drawdown thank you Thank You Elizabeth Duncan Gilchrist Tim Johnson and Chris Allred thank you for your time tonight counsel my name is Duncan Gilchrist I'm a boulder resident master's student at CU Denver School of Public Affairs and I'm

[58:00] on the board of an organization called clean energy action and I'm here today just to reflect positively on the leadership of kiss City Council and staff and leading the transition towards a low-carbon economy in particular I'd like to voice support for the city's efforts to prioritize the goal of democratization over energy it's a big word that you all you are all familiar with refers to localizing decision-making power over our energy system and I think this is super important and if we were you know able to create a local power utility we'd be able to have a say in decisions like how our electricity revenue is reinvested into programs to further support the transition towards renewables we could try to decrease the energy burden on low-income families we could promote resilience through micro grid and battery storage technology so in other words you know we'd have a lot more local decision-making power over

[59:01] decisions regarding our energy system compared to the policy pathway of sticking with Xcel Energy where the decisions of our energy system are largely determined at Public Utilities Commission which is super impenetrable to the average citizen so I appreciate the City Council's and city staffs evaluation of this one specific pathway to decarbonization that would allow us more decision-making power over energy system and that pathway is the initialization effort so thank you all for your leadership thus far and that's all of them thanks thank you Tim Johnson Chris Allred and Jay med Stan good evening mr. mayor members of the City Council it's been a while since I've addressed you I'm Tim Johnson I'm the CEO at Frasier three-fifty punkah place thanks I want to say thanks to all

[60:00] the city departments for our 13 building permits our prairies building opened on January 6th we're almost done with all of our building by the end of March we will have a population on our campus of about 500 individuals we call our building our newest residential building the prairies building and for your information it's built on stilts because we are still in the high hazard floodplain Fraser spent while we were doing all of this project 2.1 million dollars of our own money to build a flood wall around our campus to help some bring some measure of safety to the residents who live here sadly the residents in the neighborhood surrounding Fraser don't have that same security it does not cover the meadows neighborhood I wanted to share the sign that we receive from the city with the requirement that we post it now at the

[61:01] completion of our project at our thirteen different doors on their property my guess as many of you haven't seen this sign and I'm going to read you what the sign says it says notice this property is in an area subject to sudden flooding in case of flood emergency be prepared to seek high ground immediately for information go to www.ardexamericas.com

[62:11] good evening Council hi my name is Chris Allred and i'm commenting for Rocky Mountain peace and justice center welcome and congratulations to the new council members also to reelected council members first I would like to say that we stand in solidarity with Evan Ravitz and we ask that the council please make sure that the voter approved online petition system is implemented also I'm here to talk about Rocky Flats the former nuclear weapons plant this relates to the Boulder City Council's decision of whether or not to continue participation in the Rocky Mountain Greenway the Rocky Mountain Greenway is a mountain bike trail proposed to traverse radioactive contaminated ground

[63:02] at Rocky Flats in 2016 Boulder City Council authorized $200,000 to go towards a federal grant for this project and that funding included the condition of soil sampling in the area this was along with six other local governments we have learned more about the contamination at Rocky Flats through this sampling in recent years and in August of 2019 there was a record high reading of 264 Pico Curie's per gram reading of plutonium there are many other radioactive contaminants at Rocky Flats including uranium americium beryllium radioactive lead also dr. Keller a PhD chemist published a study in September regarding hot particles of plutonium dioxide it is important to research this subject and make an

[64:00] informed decision about the dangers to public health and I would be glad to meet with members of the council to discuss this topic in more detail thank you for your time thank you mr. Allred and Jay med Stan Elizabeth hahndorf and Lynd seagull good evening my name is J Madsen and I live at 1101 Aurora Avenue Boulder Colorado and my what I wanted to speak about briefly was I lived a half a block from the mark the house at eight nine 112th Street and you tonight we have the first reading of the downzoning from March third meeting and I wanted to just talk about briefly a long time about the city staff memo from the landmarks board and the city staff this this memo is very complete it's very detailed and I hope you all read it they did a very professional job in all

[65:00] the aspects how this falls into the historic preservation ordinance and many of us my neighbors will be here on March 3rd and we all live in a historic neighborhood with historic homes that were built by professors and presidents of Cu and this is an important issue and thanks for your time and we'll see you March 3rd with many more people thank you Thank You mr. met Elizabeth hahndorf Lynd seagull and Michelle Rodriguez all right Elizabeth hahndorf 4th Street Boulder Colorado for since the 70s anyway well I'm part of the Rocky Flats group too and I I was going to speak about something else but I find this view way more important and I'm asking that we come up with an idea to collaborate with other cities to put warning signs and historical perspective signs around the Rocky Flats areas

[66:00] newcomers are coming here on bikes and they don't know where it is there's really no definition it doesn't clear hazardous warning and I think a historical perspective like you see in Yellowstone about the Buffaloes would be great about this is a site where you know nuclear plant exploded etc etc I have some relatives that came he have immigrated here and they've got their kids and they're riding all over asking me where is Rocky Flats some people think it's just you know to the east of Broadway well or whatever 93 well it's not it's all over and now you can see from what Chris said that the contamination is serious and I hope we can join with you know Broomfield other places to get them to collaborate on this people should be given and notification of the danger and the current signs that are there now just say anti Rocky Flats and an animal refuge well if I were a bicyclist or a

[67:02] tourist I'd want to be on that and so it's it's just really disrespective and I'm hoping we can put this together thank you thank you Vince ago and yeah and and that $200,000 that we spent you know that was contingent upon the soil analysis first now if you Sam come to April 6 I think Michael Kettering is going to give a presentation that you would find quite impressive it's amazing I want to see it a number of times about all the different suspended particles and their decay rates and a lot of stuff that plutonium is not stuff you want to mess with now what I wanted to bring up tonight and was something else but I'm gonna be gone in Sun Valley with my baby the baby that says no skiing in Sun Valley next week so I can't be here but

[68:02] for the south boulder floodplain we don't need see you any bigger here see use expansion is not boulders responsibility see see you north see you south see you in the middle see you in Longmont that's what I say see you there SCE and Longmont I know some folks there that really would like the campus there so condemnation just say just like municipal ization say just say condemnation this land was had very shifty ways in which it was arrived at in the first place five million dollar deal with the Flatirons gravel company I don't feel terribly sorry for you see you and I love see you I'm up there today I was at the Holocaust laughs that I'm taking and stuff so what I wanted to also say is I want a new climate integrated services department that's heading up our whole city and has all the other departments transportation

[69:00] planning long and short range building and services development open space and Joe Cataloochee and Jonathan Cohen heading this dual directorship we need somebody watching from the aerial perspective on Boulder on how how we design the rest of our urban thank you then plan to the very end Michelle Rodriguez hi folks it's me again I was here several weeks back talking to you guys regarding the excessive force of some of the members of your Police Department just yesterday I learned that the city of voter is trying to remove citizen protections from the police by removing the ability to claim self-defense when an officer uses excessive force as well as we're moving the eight foot to film law allowing Boulder PD to dictate how far away you need to stand from them at

[70:01] all times I want y'all to know that on my person I happen to have some some documentation it's footage it's the police department's footage 12 body cameras I was found not guilty by reason of self-defense against the border Police Department last week I was threatened from the DA's office from an investigator of the DA's office that if I contacted them any any more regarding my victims rights that I would be arrested for harassment just today I spoke with your head detective to heal you of your Police Department I also learned that Pat Wright whiten is no longer in your complaints department in your ethics department gave me big and good hope because I have high end high hopes for a change with officer McNiven who I understand is now there and I was referred by Trujillo back to the complaint department to file my formal thing I've already won in the court of law in front of a pair of I mean in

[71:01] front of a jury six of my peers in Boulder as residents I was deemed not guilty by reason of self-defense it's not like innocent or guilty had I not had the ability to have access and there's also an audio recording on this of an officer Lola Tai who's quite high on the controversy list who another one of our very prominent citizens spoke earlier tonight mr. samuel is defending himself from also but right now I need a lawyer I'm on my civil part I was told that's not my only ramifications Pat white and told me to do that by the way Thank You mr. Rodriguez reconstructed Carla see no Carla we will bring public comment to a close and then you guys like to respond

[72:00] to anything you've heard so far Tanya or Thomas so I will respond to an item that's actually on the consent calendar 891 12 Street the mark known as the Marfa house so there has been a change today in the direction so the property owner owner John Kirkland and the applicant historic Boulder have agreed to an extension of the 100-day period for the City Council to hold a public hearing to an additional 60 days which would extend it to may 5th for a second hearing what this extension would do it's intended to provide time for the applicant to get feedback on the proposed exterior changes to the property through the landmark design review process to the property prior to the designation hearing so just wanted to provide counsel with that update prior to the consent calendar okay thank you Tom

[73:01] clarification does that mean that we'll be scheduling a hearing the second reading hearing on that later then that's correct on that correct so right now we're anticipating once again the second hearing would be May thank you so I can respond to some of the comments about the changes to the Criminal Code if you prefer me to do it now or I could do it later would go ahead now okay so I think there's a misunderstanding of the changes that we're making first of all no defense is being removed at all the same defenses that were there before are there now the section that that people have talked about says it's not a defense to so and that's that's not being removed it's being rewarded to conform to state law the essential language is in the same we do recommend removing subsection B now the way this this code section is set up subsection a parallel stable law with different words and it basically says

[74:01] that to prove self to prove obstruction we have to show that someone intentionally interfered with the operations of an officer subsection B is a session that's unique to Boulder and it says that it's a criminal offence to disobey an order of an officer to step back 8 feet it doesn't provide any protection it gives us the ability to charge that what we're suggesting is that we removed the ability to charge that that we we stopped we we don't no longer allow officers to issue in order to step back 8 feet and make failure to comply obstruction you know the only obstruction we would be able to charge would be under subsection a which would be identical to state law and which would require proof of intentional interference so our view is that this is more protective of the public and the reason and I I apologize we did not do a great job of explaining this in the memo and I will improve that language in the second reading memo I promise but there has been misunderstandings and ambiguity

[75:02] and clearly by some of the discussion we've heard just a misunderstanding of what that section does it's difficult for folks to understand what step back 8 feet means what 8 feet is what for an officer in the middle of a confrontation to try to measure off 8 feet and 4 under people understand that if they step there are 9 feet away they're ok if they're 8 feet they're not as a policy we do not charge people for filming we do not interfere with people observing it's only when people interfere with the actual arrest that it becomes a problem so as I said I think we can do a better job of explaining all of this you may recall that last summer there was of some news about a case where a woman was ordered to step back didn't an officer shoved her and we got sued she in her complaint she said she was within 8 she was no no closer than 8 feet we were able to demonstrate that she was within 2 feet because we had 21 body cameras and last week the court dismissed that

[76:00] complaint but the the ambiguity in in that whole thing the belief by her lawyers that somehow being 8 feet out was a defense from her interfering just wasn't true under our code it created confusion and ambiguity and as I say because it was an alternative charge it and the grounds on which people could be charged and we're suggesting removing it and so it's it's a little confusing to me that anyone suggest that we're trying to make it easier to charge obstruction we're actually making it mortar for the city to charge obstruction it I was gonna bring this up in her consent but since we're talking about it thanks for that Tom so I for second reading if I could ask like one of the things I've was missing in this first reading memo was what the previous language was yes I mean you could look it up in the code right but if for a second reading we could see what the previous language was in contrast the the new language and then it really explained how real world situations would be handled differently

[77:01] based on these changes and so I know that one of the things that people are concerned about is that under the new language potentially someone would could legally be asked to remove themselves to a distance from which they could no longer see what was occurring right and so people feel that by stating 8 feet that gives you some ability to stay close enough to kind of keep an eye on things right so if you could address or how that would change with this language and maybe if there any alternatives or well everything if counsel wanted to add a defense that it's you're not interfering if you're 8 feet away that would that would actually accomplish what people want seem to want in these comments which which is not what currently okay it's not a defense to be standing eight feet away although be hard to interfere to violate subsection a if you're eight feet away yes if we could maybe get a real thorough explanation of those and then we can walk through the possibilities alternative seems like really our fault we just didn't anticipate there would be an objection to us making this order to charge but I can understand and it's complex language I'd be happy to do that thank you

[78:01] anyone else clarifying questions on the consent agenda as we roll into that two questions one is um so with respect to item i which is marpa house what I think you're asking us to do is is to set it up on first reading to approve it on first reading so it's teed up we do you were just letting us know that the hearing no longer will be March 3rd it'll be sometime later on is that right that's correct and then with respect to so I'm going to move backwards I was before were Jay Tom do you do you would you like us to pass both of these alternatives on marijuana and cannabis tonight and then narrow it down on second reading or do you want us to pick one tonight unless there's an obvious choice for counsel I would suggest pass both great thanks yeah you haven't had a chance to discuss it great thank you and may I also add I'm sorry honesty it may also add with respect to the comments about online

[79:00] petition and just again a reminder that we'll do an a full update at the next council meeting on full council meeting on March 3rd mm-hmm so had a couple more on consent so just on back to item K house had a question about the parking of campers there was a language in there that says that you have up to 48 hours of active where you were doing active loading or unloading I was just wondering how we define active loading and unloading because you assume if it's there 48 hours there are hours in the middle tonight where nobody's doing anything right so is there an official definition of sort of that I don't know but can we take that as a first reading question that's exactly what I was happy to do that if you could address that further saying where you appreciate it and then the other one actually back to the one we were talking about before the part of the change is to add emergency responders and volunteers to the kind of protected categories and the emergency responders made total sense to

[80:00] me I didn't see a clear definition of volunteer okay in the language so I which seemed like it could matter without how high a bar there is for interfering with a volunteer so if we could get that addresses well connect you thank you I do have a question about chaos well and I see the language of a and as you mentioned it's a little bit broader when we're talking about knowingly obstruct and I don't know what that means and I think that gives officers a lot of leeway so I think if you could explain that further because when I look at B there's Express for analysis to use violence force physical interference or an obstacle so I see that in B when it comes to police animals but I don't see that when it comes to the officers so I think sure so

[81:01] adding through that should be one of the reasons that we wanted to make this change is because we're adopting the state law language there should be cases interpreting that so I will provide more background in the memo if that's okay thank you perfect thank you anything else anything else on the consent agenda we have a motion I'll move the consent agenda Sam kind of makes it ask one more question before you so you may recall it the retreat bob raised the question about parking trailers for 72 hours we provided in there an alternative so right now anybody can park for as long as they they need if they get a right-of-way permit and so contractors do that so we've kind of expanded that language a little bit in the proposed ordinance we did provide an alternative amendment which you can also consider a second reading or you can do that which just makes it legal for persons who are

[82:02] working at a reson to park a trailer necessary for their work for 70 up to 72 hours so it expands that I think it addresses the concern that some community members raised to Bob but if you want to give me guidance tonight great if not we what you want to leave the second reading we can do it deal with it then preferences I'll guess I'll state my preference I know the alternative would be a permit it just seems like a little bit of work for them a landscaper to have to come to the office and apply for a permit and pay whatever fee we might impose and so on so forth site I guess I'd suggests a 72 hours for landscaping trailers which is consistent with our rules on cars which it calls to be in the same place for 72 hours yeah I don't know if council members have strong feelings on that I would leave it to second reading to just come back and amend it now and if you prefer and then you would go back if you dislike or we

[83:01] could just leave it and then you could discuss an amended at second reading your choice would you guys be okay to make it 72 hours and be done with it and to be clear we went beyond landscape trailers we said anybody so a plumber could also if they hundred oh yeah do we need a motion and just even the motion to approve say we're topping the amendment all offer that as a friendly amendment whoever made the motion councilmember Joseph I Neagle all right sweat lick yes Wallach yes Weaver all right Yates hye-young yes I'm gonna go with a yes - I'll weigh in as well yes we're chocolate okay okay okay your

[84:12] call up tonight is the seep on 19th Street multimodal improvements project anyone want to call it but I just have a couple of questions for staff I'm not to call it up I'm so Karl's hogging to maybe ask you questions about things that happen long before you got here with me I see carrot there as well so it's my fundamental question is why is the why are we stopping in a sumac like you're because Crestview is just to the north of there right yeah and I know that the you know I live in this part of town I know the character changes a fair amount north of violet you get that median in there but I what I don't understand is why it doesn't extend from sumac north to violet great great questions so I'm gonna introduce Garrett

[85:00] and Lindsey tonight but with working on the project for many years and they're gonna handle all the questions for you thank you so Garrett Lindsey good evening Garrett Slater principal transportation engineer and so the the reason that the scope of the project goes from Norwood to sumac it was a strong desire from area residents around Crestview to improve the potential pedestrian facilities to the crossing a sumac to get access better access to Crestview Elementary a secondary reason was that we pursued additional grant funding through the Colorado Department of Transportation safe routes to school program that had limited amounts of funding and so we had to bracket put brackets around a project that we thought would fit within the budget context available within that grant program and so then the an additional tertiary reason would be that we were aware that the utilities the department was interested in carrying forward for

[86:01] Mile Canyon improvement projects underneath 19th Street and that is in fact a project that is an the design stage right now which will implement pedestrian facility improvements between sumac and upland and so then that leaves a gap between upland up to to violet that would be up for a future consideration okay yeah thanks for that answers today do we know I know that that underpass under 19th Street is coming eventually so will that also include then street side treatments to bring it into will have exactly the same kinds of treatments that you're including south of sumac yes it will it's great to hear so then the request that I would make is I mean you really do have a block gap there and I know any number of kids that are traveling south on 19th Street to get to Crestview and also to centennial late can we get that in the queue somehow like I'd hate to

[87:00] see this go you know for 30 years from now before we get back to it just that one block so we can certainly put that project into the prioritization effort that we go through every year for sidewalks of missing links one of their key reasons this 19th Street project came to the top of a project we want to implement is because for a number of years through our missing link sidewalk program it was the number one project we wanted to get to work on and so every years we go through the privatization we can certainly keep that that thought that block between upland and violet under consideration and as funding becomes available get that into the queue as you noted I appreciate that and I guess you know there would be a pretty big opportunity when the underpass is going in and there are other improvements being constructed like if you were able to find the funding to do that one extra block at that time it seemed like there'd be a big synergy there so I just you know really put that request out there to see if that's at all possible understood great thank you and if I can

[88:01] just ask one question I this has been in the works for a really long time where I spent like five years dude is there a way that we can go a little quicker I mean I know you guys have been working super hard it's just I know I know I personally I have kids that are now too old to take advantage of all this so you when are you getting kind of getting into human terms sometimes we miss so I understand the frustration at taking the length of time that it does to get a project to this point there are two very obvious explanations that I can provide to us some of that and one is that the initial grant award we received from the state was a whopping $75,000 which on a 1.5 million dollar project didn't go very far but they said be patient wait another year and we'll have more and they did and they said and I still wasn't quite enough and so they said wait one more year and we'll have more so we waited for the grant funding to

[89:01] build up over a two to three year time span and then we once we realized we had enough funding for the project to actually advance then we began work on the planning and the Public Engagement effort and we thought that we had a design that was going to work in terms of the floodplain permitting and then we were surprised to learn that we we didn't have a design that was fully compliant with the floodplain because of all that happened in 2013 one of the top priorities of this project is making sure that we don't make things worse if anything we'd like to try to make them better and so we've spent a lot of time really studying the flood issue over the last year to make sure that we've got a solution that's going to work for the projects as well as adjacent residents and stakeholders that makes a lot of sense thanks for that answer Rachel welcome to the pain of floods delaying things I had a question I'm not

[90:01] sure who it's for but we're looking at alternative four as the preferred option and it talks about a painted buffer and I just wanted to figure out is that really just paint or is it a buffer that is painted is there like a physical separation so within the city's low stress bike network plan we have three set designations we have a Stein standard bike lane which is a single white straight stripe adjacent to vehicle lane then we have a buffered bike lane which includes a painted space adjacent to a vehicle lane and then we have a protected Lane which provides sort of vertical or horizontal physical separation to the adjacent vehicle lane and so the 19th Street under the low stress walking bike network was identified as a buffered bike lane facility and so that's what we are proposing as part of alternative four is a two foot painted buffer and why not do the physical that that's so that's not like there's no vertical or right I might not do that that's my question so

[91:00] there were a number of factors we have a limited right away within which we can fit all the parts of the the multimodal street section and there was a strong desire communicated from both students and parents as well as residents in the area to make sure that we try to fit in space for wider sidewalks and through that input as well as input from the transportation Advisory Board we were able to identify a solution for implementing six foot wide sidewalks and so that takes away some of the space that's available for providing a physical separation one of the additional challenges is that because a significant portion of 19th Street resides in the Wunderland Creek floodplain no matter what we do in terms of bicycle infrastructure and in the Wunderland Creek plain but we wondered um Creek floodplain that will need to be a standard bike lane because pushing it out to accommodate buffered or protected facilities would not be something we could get permitted within our floodplain regulations Thanks yes the

[92:08] total project is about four million you said so that's what the current budget is yes and how much of that is represented by a state or federal grants so we've got about I think nine hundred thousand and total grant funding through the state okay so you're anticipating a three million dollar expenditure from transportation funds to do this correct I will tell you one disappointment I act I read this I read the memo and I went back to the earlier memo and I saw unless I was miss reading and I saw one line articulating what the costs are gonna be I generally like to know a little more how did we come to

[93:00] this estimate and then at the reading the earlier memo we had lists of hundreds of trees that were going to be there taken out or replaced I mean the the detail was quite granular until we got to the issue of cost and I'm wondering is there and he there there in terms of some detail behind the cost estimate sure absolutely as we go through the the seat process the community environmental assessment program we go through a cost evaluation of each of the alternatives that are being considered and I assume the estimates are being generated by staff yes in partnership with our consultant resources yes okay all right thank you anyone else well I will just say it's gonna be a great project so I'm excited about it thanks for bringing it forward

[94:01] about the protected bike lanes we can follow up on that there's more history there than we can give you in the 15 minutes be happy to that concert Wallach we will follow up we have more detailed estimates if you have insomnia we can provide you spreadsheets fo and we have to report those it's our job to be transparent about the cost of these projects one of the things that we'll do moving ahead and we get the sharper pencil is get more detail on those we hate to get super detailed now because we're not finished with the entire design but I want to make sure that you see those and you will get those well you know we really don't have enough reading here we will continue to refine those and come back with with those okay thank you very much you're welcome so is there any desire to call this up okay very good so Inc wanted the public hearings first public hearing this evening is second reading of ordinance 83 80 the overlay zone 18th and baseline good

[95:12] evening Council Christmas Chuck deputy city manager an interim planning director and I'm here in my interim planning director role tonight and this is a consideration of an ordinance to amend on title 9 which is the land-use code to eliminate one of the areas of the medium density overlay zone from the area of 18th and baseline to give a little bit of history this originally started as a request from Council as it was a nod of five back in August of last year to explore removal of the overlay zone from this area so in doing a little bit of research and understanding a little bit more of the history the medium density overlay zone actually was created back in 1995 and this is the map that showed all of the different geographic areas so all of the solid

[96:00] black areas on the map are the areas that we created this medium density overlay zone for and it was in response after a development moratorium in some of these areas to respond to really changes in neighborhood characteristics that were resulting in undesired outcomes you'll see there's several areas on the map here circled in red then following that the city undertook a comprehensive rezoning process in 1997 and weary zoned those geographic areas to a new zoning district and the medium density overlay zone was removed from those areas so the result of that now is there are four areas in the city that still have this medium density overlay zone and what an overlay zone is is it is an additional set of regulations that overlay on top of the existing base zoning district that add additional regulations or have additional restrictions so we have other overlay

[97:01] zones in the city like our floodplain regulations or right now we have an overlay zone in the area of the opportunity zone the medium density overlay zone essentially the the simplified version of what it does is it restricts any new construction on any lot within the overlay zone to a single-family residential structure even if the underlying zoning allows for a multi-family residential structure so the request and the NADA five that council gave was to explore removing the overlay zone on University Hill and so this stretches from baseline on the South Aurora on the north 17th Street to 19th Street so that's the geographic area it has medium density residential to zoning as the underlying zoning I'm in the area but then has the overlay zone on top of it so we dug into understanding well what would it mean if

[98:00] we were to remove this overlay zone from this area what would be the outcome or result and so what we began doing is looking at well how many properties are in this area there's a hundred and thirty-two properties within this geographic area and right now there's 208 housing units on those properties so a lot of the properties are already a multi-family residential the reason that this project started was spurred by the property that has the star on it which is a large parcel that had a duplex on it that burned down based on the existing zoning you could build a triplex there with this overlay zone you can only build a single-family home the Lots large enough that you could subdivide it into two Lots and build two single-family homes what the property owner was expecting to be able to do is build a triplex which is what the underlying zoning rm2 would allow when

[99:00] we then look at if we were to remove this regulation how many properties could have more than one dwelling unit on them based on the underlying rm2 zoning and the result of that is 30 of those 132 properties could have an additional dwelling unit on them and that's what's shown in purple here on the map so then the next question is well how many dwelling units are on each of those properties and how many are left that could potentially have additional development and the answer to that question for four properties could have additional development for a total of six additional dwelling units when we presented this item to the Planning Board one of the things they pointed out is we said six additional units based on what's out there today you could actually build two units on that large parcel on 18th Street 756 so it's really only the potential is really only about four dwelling units we represented the information as the as

[100:00] exists on the ground today so if we look at the detail of that you can see the starting on the left-hand side of the screen that the 756 18th Street property currently there's zero dwelling units there's the potential right now that you could build - if we remove the irregular could build 3 or +1 based on the existing zoning and then there's another property on 17th Street and 19th Street that has one dwelling unit that theoretically they could add one more based on the zoning and then one that is currently a duplex where you could add one additional unit whether those units would actually get constructed there's a whole lot more detail that a property owner would need to go through so whether these units are actually constructed or not would require a bunch more analysis we presented this item to the Planning Board and the Planning Board recommended 6 to 1 to approve elimination of the medium density overlay zone for University Hill and so

[101:02] the staff recommendation is for council to approve ordinance 83 80 adopting this change and we're happy to answer any questions no question a couple of questions actually in 1995 the rationale in the statute for imposing the zone was that development has been very disruptive of the think character of the of the areas has failed to preserve certain historic structures has led to many inappropriate structures being erected and us has negatively affected the value of adjoining properties of those considerations as a drove you that they have all been met yeah if we go back and we look at what was happening in 1995 we had done some rezoning of some of the neighborhoods and folks that are familiar with it like the Whittier

[102:00] neighborhood we had a rezoning that allowed essentially what what it was called was the house behind a house where you could split a lot or you could build two houses on one lot and that I think is the the intent language that you read was really getting at things like that where the character of the neighborhood was fundamentally changing as a result of of that development a lot of the rezoning that we did in 1997 addressed those concerns and really kind of recognized the mixed density character that had then evolved in those neighborhoods and kind of locked that in does that answer your question yeah a couple of follow-up questions in this case we have a developer that wants to create a triplets and is unable to do so is normally our practice to do a rezoning of an area in order to accommodate one individuals situation no actually it's pretty uncommon that we

[103:00] bring forward zoning changes every once in a while it does happen in this case it was a request from that property owner to council to look at this overlay zone and whether it was still necessary or not and at the time that the not a five discussion happened with council there was also a lot of conversation about the mix of housing units that we want in the community and that was part of what when we did our analysis in looking at balancing both a desire for preservation of neighborhood character as well as recognition of wanting a mixture of housing unit types in the city that was part of our rationale of why we recommended in this case elimination of of this overlay zone and will any of these three units be permanently affordable the property owner as they go through the development process it depends on whether these will

[104:00] be for sale units versus rental units but they will have to make sure they meet our inclusionary housing requirements for the any dwelling units that they construct and that's that's not really the same thing I would point out correct it would either be potentially one of the units as deed restricted if it's for sale units or they would potentially pay into cash in lieu thank you yes yeah so let's open the public hearing do we have anyone signed up

[105:09] well he's to Spaulding Lisa Spaulding and I'm here to represent the University Hill neighborhood associations Executive Committee is that better thank you yeah we've been working on trying to use land use to solve some of the multiple issues we have on the hill in January the University Hill neighborhood associations executive committee presented Planning Board with a proposal to amend the medium-density overlay zone in a way that would offer the owner of seven five six 18th Street the ability to build a triplex but would require that the extra unit he wants to build be permanently affordable the proliferation of expensive student Reynolds has seriously affected

[106:00] diversity on the hill faculty and staff can no longer afford to rent or buy on the hill and graduate students trying to support families on a teaching or research assistants salary have been shut out of a neighborhood that could offer them two excellent public schools for their children and the ability to walk to campus although undergraduates with need-based financial aid deserve till two with it to live within walking distance of their classes libraries and labs exorbitant rents forced many of them to commute long hours by bus or car as a result this prime location is filled primarily with students who can afford $1400 a month for a bedroom and are often more interested in partying than studying we believe the city's planning process can be used to address equity issues for faculty staff and students and to make the hill more environmentally socially and financially sustainable we also believe that the development of new residential design guidelines would

[107:00] ensure that any new development or redevelopment contributes to a safer and less disruptive environment in the overlay zone several members of the Planning Board were very frustrated by the fact that the overlay ordinance was passed 25 years ago with the intention that it be lifted once new residential guidelines were introduced but the guidelines for this area were never developed we have different issues now than in those blocks than we had when it was more families now it's student rentals and these will never be sold these the units that the the developer already said he we its student rentals so if you left what we would really like our design guidelines that would help to control this this whole area is just ripe for redevelopment everyone in all of the landlord's are going for high-end really expensive

[108:02] student housing because that's what they can make the most money on it's completely disrupting any kind of balance in the neighborhood and if you lift the overlay zone with nothing in place to ensure the redevelopment is not designed piecemeal with no thought for the particular problems associated with dense student housing or for social and economic diversity on the hill you will contribute directly to the current degradation of our neighborhood and I would caution you I know the Planning Board was really like oh my god this is so few units let's just not worry about it but the real question is what happens when all these things are tore down so and redeveloped thank you and then Tim Hillman in sickle Mountain Heights nope see you can deal with their housing see you is entirely big enough with the hill hotel and that would see you South

[109:02] excuse me South Boulder floodplain and the impact of see you long ago over and their benefit to the city of Boulder we need to put on the brakes that's what's going to lower housing costs in Boulder and if people can't deal with it here they go out and build another model community with a blue line around it because we don't grow too big for our carrying capacity in Boulder so no on the overlay so you Len Tim Hillman good evening Tim Hellman 1429 North Street I've come

[110:00] to learn then I actually reside in an area that's affected by an overlay zone and I've done a little bit of homework and trying to catch up on it and I hadn't realized that city staff was so actively pursuing and kind of reviewing every assessment of areas that are currently within the overlay zone and it food-for-thought for you all I'm in an area that's not under consideration with this by understanding housing shortages and needs we have particularly around areas where we have an opportunity to get folks to do alternative modes shouldn't be alternative anymore but walk and bike to get places you saw there's only a couple areas left in Boulder that are impacted by these overlay zones we've only talking about a couple of residences remaining that haven't already gone from a single-family dwelling unit to something else so we're talking very minimal impact in the grand scheme of things and to keep in mind in terms of the architectural kind of neighborhood feel we live two doors down from a we're kind

[111:01] of right on the edge in terms of the zoning district and those single-family homes can build whatever structure they would like and it remains a single-family structure so they can add whatever square footage within the guidelines of what you've got with easements and such on your property but because of the overlay zone you can't expand or make any modifications to the structure and add a unit so assuming you wanted to make housing available to others in a a unit that would be less than the neighboring single-family home this overlay zone is restricting our ability to before provide housing to cut our residents that could be residing in areas where they could be walking biking the whole redevelopment around the hospital these other overlay zones along Broadway it'll come up again I would save consider removing the overlay sighs I think it's a good idea for the neighborhoods so thanks a lot for his

[112:01] time good luck thank you Jim if there's no one else we'll close the public hearing bring your back to Council if you don't mind if I star in this because I brought this forward last year for the knot of five and you know it was prompted by this specific situation on this one parcel where there's a duplex that had burned down and the owner thought well I could put up another duplex in place of it Oh actually there's room for triplex and then came forward to the city after getting quite far into the process and was told actually you can't build a multi-family camp housing here because of the overlay zone and just for a city that's in a crisis with a lack of housing it seemed to me unfortunate that we would instead require this person to build one or two very large expensive homes rather than triplex which could provide some additional housing at a lower price point and then when Chris and his team did the analysis the effects in the larger area were very minimal might have

[113:01] a little bit of additional change over the long term with those couple three additional parcels but which you know could result in some other positive outcomes but just seems to me that where we are in the city with the need for housing that this is a is a positive incremental step and and while the it's very unlikely that these units themselves would be affordable they would contribute to the affordable housing funds that would enable the construction affordable housing in other locations in the city so I hope I hope Council will support this what's the total square footage that he's permitted to build if the overlay zone is lifted that's a great question that I don't have the numbers off the top of my head I might need to go and look again the way we we calculate density on Lots in the rm2 zoning district is first you have to have at least a minimum lot size and then for every 3,500 square feet of

[114:02] lot area you can have one dwelling unit and so that's where for this parcel they get to the three in terms of what's that late - in terms of square footage based on setback solar and all of that I don't I don't remember the number off top my head it just seems to me there's a difference between whether he's building three one bedrooms or three three bedrooms in terms of impact of traffic and other considerations yeah following up on Aaron's point I just like to remind everyone that we don't have housing problem we have in affordable housing problem there's plenty of homes in Boulder that are underutilized in many ways and I like to keep that in mind whenever we're having these density conversations because density doesn't always equal affordability in this instance I would love if the developer

[115:00] in their heart of hearts decided that one of these units should be permanently affordable and proved that development isn't necessarily about maximizing the amount of income you can have but actually contributing something the community that is really really necessary Rachel but if we don't remove the overlay there's there's no reason for the developer to make it affordable single-family home or duplex right so we're not removing affordability as far as I can tell and it's possible that there could be some I mean we have the chance of affordability with the triplex or paying into our inclusionary zoning fund illusionary housing fund so I've got some confused by the notion that a triplex would have to be affordable in a single-family home obviously does not so that there's just a little bit of a disconnect and also I think it's important that we do look at mister

[116:01] Hillman's point about walkable neighborhoods as we're not only in an affordable housing and housing crisis but we are also all in a climate crisis and this helps if we can get three families or three groups of students living in a walkable neighborhood as opposed to commuting in from far away that helps with our see map goals Thanks respond to Adams my first of all head of my hundred percent agree with you having just come off of three years on the Boulder housing partners board one of the things I learned is it's helpful to have kind of a critical mass of units to manage for affordable housing is really difficult to have like one unit of affordable housing because you have all sorts of requirements as far as income qualifications and reports and so on and so forth and and while I agree with you hundred percent and I would love it if this developer did build one of those units or maybe all three of them as firmly affordable I

[117:00] think there's also a practical challenge with somebody who doesn't otherwise manage affordable units to manage one affordable unit because of all the requirements I just want to throw that out there is just a practical frustration that I share with you okay anyone else do we want to have a motion I I can put a motion for move adoption of ordinance a 380 amending title 9 land-use code to lemon egg the medium density overlay zone from the area of 18th Street and baseline Road second discussion I mean my point okay there's one final small point to me it this strikes me more as a private benefit to an individual rather than a well-considered policy for creating more affordable housing and I'm quite sure I

[118:01] will be in a very tiny minority but I don't think I can I don't think that this is meeting my objectives for creating more affordable housing in Boulder and I am sensitive both to what bob has said about the practicalities but also what Adams said about the need to actually create affordable housing and not just more market rate housing and Mike can issue with how much is buildable is because you know if there's enough square footage to build to the three-bedroom houses this becomes a development boon but doesn't really do much for our policies of trying to promote affordability so I'm sure I'll be out in the cold on this one but that's that's finally the process works well I just totally respect being voting knowing it but just a point that without this we get no

[119:00] increased affordability either instead we get if you were larger units that are more expensive so while you don't get necessarily permanently affordable housing with this change you do get smaller units at lower price points quick question could could he build two homes and an Adu if based on the parcel size the property owner could subdivide the parcel and be single from homes whether an ad you could go there I'd need to look into the details based on the ATU regulations but right now you could build either two detached single-family homes or if we remove this then it would be as as Erin described one structure with three units in it as a drive once the ad you would be overlay zones are really kind of mediocre policy generally speaking you'd rather have the

[120:00] underlying zone and be what determines what you can build and so I'm gonna vote to lift this just because I'm not a huge fan of overlay zones and it has a relatively minor impact but positive so that's where I'm gonna be to follow up question are we gonna be looking at the other overlay zones so as a part of this analysis the the direction from Council was just to focus on this area and University Hill but if you look at those other geographic areas there's an area in Grand View Terrace much of which is now owned by the University and then the other big area as we heard in testimony tonight is around community Plaza an ideal Market area so that is something that we could look at as a part of the work plan in the future if counsel gave us that direction Mary it

[121:00] just turned it off so I was Sam on the overlay zones as policy and this is just removing part of an overlay zone and I think that if we want it to I didn't know that there was an overlay zone right behind my house my house might even be included I don't know but I live behind Tim so that would be something - I think consider when we start looking at the sub community plans is to address overlay zones as we go through that process and it's four units here a lot of the other properties already have the maximum so even if they redeveloped they would still not contribute much if anything anymore - the number of housing

[122:03] units there so just to summarize I think that the some of the issues that were brought up tonight could be addressed as we move through the sub community planning process okay so motion so I'll say this sort of points that one of the fundamental flaws in our affordable housing system is that only through building are we acquiring more money so that's a major issue in its own right and even though I don't like the concept I'd much prefer that we get some sort of money for the affordable housing program out of this instead of C - probably larger probably less affordable units made out of this and again this is the difference between a bad choice and a worse choice it's really not a whole lot to work with in terms of

[123:02] really getting towards our goals so I'm a little upset okay we have a motion in a second so all in favor it's actually the overall call sorry roll call thank you councilmember Nadeau nope councilmembers might look reluctant yes Wallach no Weaver okay yes Yates yes young yes Brackett hi friend yes Joseph yes motion passes second public hearing this evening is the fire master pine good

[124:18] evening Council Mayor Mike Alvarado Fire Chief happy to be here this evening sheriff to you our master plan update for 2020 oh is it not starting oh there it is thanks Tom so tonight we'll be going through some over some highlights of our master plan go down a couple things and and then we have a few questions for you and we're here to answer questions if you have any for us before we begin I'm gonna let Tanya energy take over kind of set the framework for why we're here

[125:00] thanks chief so tonight's action is to accept the fire master plan and adopt the proposed amendment to the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan boulder fire rescue master plan summary that's a lot of words and I wanted to read those out loud because I'm gonna give a little bit of background of master planning and what the action is tonight so the picture that you see on the screen is the sustainability and resilience framework so this guides the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan and as you see in the middle is Department or strategic master plan so really we are focusing on that red highlighted box in the middle of this diagram tonight so what do master plans do or what's the purpose of a master plan it's to establish the vision for future service delivery within that department or service area and it really acts as a bridge between the comp plan

[126:00] and the master plan so it's a another layer down and starts to drill into more specifics and we have this framework in place so that there's a common language across the city when we are adopting these master plans and the master plan process is incredibly important for capital planning and also I want to say also for operational budget purposes which chief Colorado will talk a little bit about tonight but the action tonight is just the acceptance of this plan okay next slide thank you so a bit of background the city actually has what's called a city plans and project handbook the planning department right now is in the process of updating that handbook based on council discussion and discussion of the financial strategy committee of how do we really look at master plans in the in the future and tie them closer to the budget process next slide

[127:02] so here's what's ahead for you as a council so accepted in 2019 were two master plans which was the OS MP master plan as well as the transportation master plan two are currently underway which is the parks and recreation master plan and our facilities master plan which is actually going to be the first time that a facility's master plan will actually be coming to council and then two will be kicking off in quarter 1 of this year and that includes the police master plan and our comprehensive flood and storm water utility so that brings us up to four total updates and the next year half a year and a half or so and so that's why I just want to ground once again that tonight's action is acceptance of the master plan we will have after acceptance of the master plan

[128:02] then we start to go to work of how do we incorporate the master plans within budget conversations so for example this year if council accepts this master plan Fire will be a focus of how do we start implementation on the action steps outlined in the master plan so before I turn it over back over to the chief is are there any questions on the action tonight or what the process is one question regarding um I was going back and just now in looking at the open space master plan and the transportation master plans and within those plans there are costs associated with some of them priorities I did notice that this one was different in that it was a very

[129:02] different approach in terms of what the priorities were and how they were outlined so I just had a question about how this one seemed to drill down more into costs than any other master plan that I'd seen so I just wanted to understand better when things are drilled down and when things are not drilled down so that's part of part of the reason of updating our handbook so that we do have consistency across master plans I'd actually like the chief to touch on the work that the department's been doing looking at their budget establishing metrics which has really set them up over the last two years to really have a master plan that drills into the metrics as you had outlined marry I'll get into a little more detail during the presentation I hope answers some of your questions this is also probably free

[130:02] Tonya so kind of following a marriage question or you know we we adopt a lot of master plans we have in the last few years and we have some more coming down the road and all of them have kind of have budget budget implications right they all kind of call for either either to maintain what we have cost money and to expand what we have cost money and then they invariably have a chapter called vision which starts if money was no object dot dot and then it has a whole bunch of really cool things that we probably could never afford so I just want to be clear that by accepting this master plan or any master plan we're not adopting or committing ourselves financially to the things that might be contemplated in that plan it's it's a plan and it certainly provides a roadmap for Loic could spend money on and maybe internally prioritization x' within that department but we're not committing to spend money on anything in particular that might be called out in the plan that's correct

[131:03] I'm actually a little troubled by the the process that were engaged in I think when we accept these master plans we're creating a degree of expectation in the community what we can and want to provide and I'm not sure that they that those expectations are consistent with what we are capable of providing I love this master plan there is nothing in this master plan I don't want to do if somebody who could tell me how we're going to get there I would look to my colleagues on the financial strategies committee save me how are we going to get there and I think we are starting to create a set of expectations that are entirely unrealistic in the community when we are unable to deliver on some of these these objectives and so simply I'm glad Baba

[132:01] raised the point that we're not committing to do anything in particular but we're advertising what it is we might want to do and if that is divorced from what we are capable of doing I'm starting to question whether this is a particularly useful process for us so in here as well and say I get a little confused by this as well because we're adopting goals but we're not talking about how we're gonna get there and so you know I look on page 452 physically constraining the action and the vision and we compare yourself to pure departments right which i think is a very important thing to do it's benchmarking yeah two thumbs up for that but when we look and we say oh yes we want to get to the ALS Department with transport and I think that's the right place to land I'm not to get ahead of ourselves but

[133:00] how do we fund it and so I guess I'm a little confused about what the function of the master plan is versus the function of budgeting and so what would ask staff is are we supposed to pick physically constrain action or vision when we adopt the plan because I think that's where we often maybe get confused is you know if we don't pick one of those then everyone might hope that we get to the vision level and that would be fine you know I want us to get there just like mark but I need to know how this intersects with the budgeting process so we can leave that for you know the physical working group to tell us how we should look at our master planning process but I think that's a real you know to Mark's point if we're setting expectations that we're not going to meet or we're setting expectations that we're not going to be able to budget for I think we're setting

[134:01] ourselves up for disappointment and for those of you who worked so hard on this great fire master plan realize that this is a culmination of frustration that's build up over years has nothing to do with this great plan you guys put together as you the fact that we're kind of struggling with what a master plan he is and it should be so nothing to do with this great plan timing is everything so in if I may respond to the last few comments please be assured that the we've spoke with the Chiefs and they are well aware of the conversations that we've been having about the intersection with the master planning process and and budget so that this conversation comes to no surprise to them this evening an action that the council could consider and I'll just throw this out there right now for you to think about when the chief has presenting is to indicate that you would like us to explore options to

[135:01] strive for X level of the master plan so for example if the vision plan is something that the council wants us to look at how how could what could be the financial roadmap to get there that's that can be staff direction for us to look at that work with the financial strategy committee budget and council as a whole I'll add my my name to those who are confused and and obviously it's not got anything to do with this master plan or the fire department but I guess I wonder like I found that page that Sam was just mentioning where we compare ourselves to the other cities pretty humiliating and if there is one place that we want to be out front and not like in tied for last place among only was it one other city and there was just us in Denver maybe in last place for providing the standard of

[136:01] care that's level three versus one or something like that I would like this to be a place where we achieve vision and so I guess I'm I would want to vote for that because I think health and safety is our top priority and so I don't understand what we're supposed to do tonight if we have to wait and and stack everything up against the others the other priorities and master plans and vision levels it's my jump in so as I go through the plan we're just gonna pick highlights I'll throw in it right now as we're going through what we're really asking you to adopt are the actual goals themselves because then every five year interval we check in to see whether we've been able to hit the mark or not whether it's fiscally constrained action or vision those three gives us the give us the options down the line of how to implement and get to some of those goals but we're really asking to look carefully at the goals that we've

[137:00] developed whether you think we're on the right track whether you think our approach was right and we can adjust dates we can adjust percentages those are all part of the actual goal itself if we're not able to actually give funding in any given year for that particular thing so if you'll just bear with me up I'll take us through the process and then we can and then talk a little bit about you know well what if we don't get the funding what happens so I don't know if you wanted to add to that Tanya or not but no thanks okay so before I get into the actual master plan I did want to thank all of you for your feedback last month and you'll see that we can corporate some of that and you just it was in the memo and we've adjusted our own master plan as a result of Planning Board input to soar thankful for that I also wanted to thank the members of the team who worked on this really hard of the last couple years members of the public who took their time out to contribute to the whole master plan process we had a lot

[138:01] of support support interdepartmental II as well as well as having the city manager's office help us get through this so there was a lie or a lot of players to help us get here and we thank them all for that I'm real quick you saw this last month you can read the slide as well as I can I think the big thing I would love for people to take away from this as well as the public is that the planning teams approach now was everything we do we need to be thinking about people the people we serve and the people that do the survey and make sure that we do it in a way that's safe and to the best of our ability and I think that the goals that we put together do take that customer centric approach as you'll see here in a minute just a little overview of the department we have 124 authorized FTEs they're not all firefighters you can see the breakdown there we have 97 firefighter emergency medical technicians 8 wildland

[139:01] responders full-time and 8 community Risk Reduction staff those are people that do on the right-hand side of all the services provided there are they're the folks that do all the stuff to keep 911 calls from happening so code enforcement education things like that we have seven fire stations that are around town and a wildland facility as well I'm out at the res so as Tanya alluded to what we've been really really working hard to do and this both predates the master plan and right during the master plan development processes we organized our department completely differently than we have in the past by program we assign program managers we've been working on data so that we can tie performance measures to actual dollars and the idea was we wanted our program managers to start tell kind of what counsel wants on the macroscale if we don't fund this what doesn't get done what percentage doesn't get reached and so at each program level

[140:02] we've asked our program managers to do that so the department is reorganized and now we can actually entertain an individual program requests based on that idea that ties in well with our different areas of focus in our master plan let me talk about the process real quick we are finally here at the culmination of the master planning process which is in front of you Council for acceptance or denial or fix or whatever you'd like to see but this process if you really go back to it he goes back in 2012 with our last master plan process update we got that accepted I think earlier 2013 five years in we actually began so we might have begun a little bit late on our update for the master plan but we realized that we will achieve a lot of stuff from the old master plan and so when we started this process we agreed to be part of the city's engagement process as well that's a we piloted that as well as did a lot of well there was a lot of outreach

[141:01] involved in this in this master plan update so that takes us through to now last well let's say week and a half ago we met with with the Planning Board but the actual planning team developed to the plan back in October September October of last year and then we got in front of planning board a week and a half ago and well we got in front of you in December with a study session then the Planning Board and now here for final acceptance so that's a little bit of the process here's what we've done since we met with you in December we took your feedback put it in the master plan draft we went back and and took a look at our ten-year master plan financial analysis so we did get very granular depending on which version of plan we we went with for the full ten years so if you did if we did action for all of our goals here's what it looked like if we did then particularly ALS was

[142:00] what we were actually looking at if we did ALS in this manner and action we would spend the money this way we would add people this way and it really is a 10-year process no matter which way we look if it was the vision version of ALS it was a ten year process to get all the way up to what we thought we could get to and all of that required some of the infrastructure stuff we'll be talking about and the last thing was we we also also got recommendations from the Planning Board to make a couple of minor changes to the to the document as well particularly in one area and that was in the workforce area so so those are the things we've done since December here's the plan itself and this is really what we're asking you to look at and accept but all we did was pull up in each of these areas to representative result measures the rest of them are in the document but we we're focusing the first two on our core areas of operation the first one is what we're is our namesake right fire rescue it's what

[143:01] people think of when they think of us call 9-1-1 I expect them to go it's all of our all hazards response the second area is about prevention and helping the community be more resilient that's a big part of what we do believe it or not and the third area really is necessary to accomplish the first two and that is if we don't have the equipment of the facilities we have the best trained people I think world certainly United States but probably in the world they work really hard they truly are good at what they do but if they don't have the equipment in the facilities they're gonna be constrained so that's a big part of the plan as well and then the last part is actually maintaining those workforce skills and the professionalism of our workforce as well as its diversity so so those are the big areas drilling down specifically and here's what I mean by people focused the idea around y'all has is responsible about what does someone calling 9-1-1 what should they expect from their fire department where do their tax dollars what does it mean what does it mean for

[144:00] me god forbid if you have a cardiac event in this country it's not a very good outcome around the country so in many places your chances of survival and enjoying the same life you had before about 8% and so we took a look at that we've been working on our own data requires working with hospitals getting their information but our idea was we want somebody who calls 911 to be able to return the life they had before because that's the expectation they have when they call 9-1-1 make my life the way it was before barring any other comorbidities so that goal can be achieved at different levels depending on funding over the next five to ten years can we get to eight nine ten twelve percent can we get even higher it we will need to work on that in every way we can and the same would go true for the second goal which is

[145:02] about actual response times so right now we're in the ten minute and forty six second mark for advanced life support I will talk about what advanced life support really means certainly for the sake of the public so they understand the difference between what we're doing today and this but that number can be brought down in various ways depending on level of funding and resources allocated if that makes any sense the bottom line is what does the customer get when they call 9-1-1 and that was what the planning team decided was an important metric for us to be looking at the second area of focus is about making our community more resilient more hardened to the risks that we face here the fact is you know we're a wildfire community and I I'm pretty proud of what the planning team came up with here 60% of the homes in the wildland urban interface will have received a wildfire assessment that's a big step towards making us more resilient more resistant

[146:00] to the effects of wildfire we can't we're not going to be immune to it but we can certainly with our private partners as well as open space which you already work with help make ourselves more more resistant to those threats so the planning team came up with this and I think that's an expectation our customers would want from from their fire department help me help myself and and and then let me do whatever I need to do the third area around facilities many of you have seen our facilities they are fairly old truthfully they do not support the list of services that we deliver today regardless of changes in service levels and I'm gonna highlight a couple in particular that really really needs some attention and TLC but we have

[147:00] goals around making sure that we're able to deliver our services for the long term in facilities that support that as well as help the city because these are city facilities and they're accessed by the public so people come in all the time car seat checks fire stations are often used to teach classes in many many places there are even clinics in some areas ours don't have that size they're not a DA compliant they lack a lot of those amenities and of course all the city's climate energy goals are unfortunately our stations are the worst offenders probably of all city stock so having those improve would be great from a bigger macro scale as well the last part the last area of focus we're asking you to approve is around the workforce itself and the well taken care of workforce will take good care of our citizens and and in a diverse workforce

[148:01] that looks more like the community always will be the kind of service provider we want to have and so you'll see that we have and we just pulled these two goals one of them is about increasing the number of female firefighters which is a which is a challenge for the fire service in general across the country that's an aggressive goal you see up there so those of you who know the fire service they're single digits all over the place we're single digits as well but in ten years to get to that level would be an accomplishment for for our department to be able to do that and the other piece is definitely customer centric and that is we want the people we serve we want to be able to ask them how well were you served that doesn't a lot of investment in dollars to find out what the community thinks when they've called 911 when they're treated so these are these are the areas of focus these are the things that we're asking you to support along with the sub goals of each area and that's the key

[149:01] piece it's really about service levels and what we would like to see four for Boulder now i'll drill down into the specifics of just a couple I have a question I was real curious about the change that the Planning Board made to the work force it was so so they asked us why did we focus on female firefighters why just that demographic what about race especially with all the work that we're doing in the city and it turns out they were actually pretty good as a department on the the breakdown of our demographic racially I don't use the phrase we're better than the community we're definitely more diverse I guess you can say from that perspective in the community so what we ended up doing was focusing here on female firefighters

[150:01] because that's the real challenge in the fire service in general their comment was because we gave them the numbers and I forget the breakdown like we can give those to you actually they said you should actually celebrate in the document that you do well here and that's why you're focusing on this it wasn't clear why female you seem like you're taking your eye off the needle in this critical area that could be true so their comment was you need to really really highlight how you're doing well here so you chose to focus here so that was our oversight thank you so drilling down just the specifics around stations in particular so that third area we're getting pretty desperate station two in station four are they I don't know they don't look too bad in the picture but you can't get a sense of size and nothing to do with the size of the trucks which has been said before it has

[151:01] everything to do with the number of services that we provide and believe it or not fire station is more about all the ancillary support service space and and space for the workforce than it is actually about the trucks that deliver the final product to the scene so these two stations built 15 60 plus years ago both lack all the critical things you need not all of them if you visit the station or our folks are pretty creative and they've done some good work with what we have but they do lack a lot of critical things that you need in critical infrastructure and unfortunately we have not we've been in the CIP for a long time but in but the funding sources have never been defined so what we're really asking to do here is a commitment so that we can jump on an opportunity to build new stations for these - we wouldn't be able to achieve any of our advanced level goals regarding advanced life support or

[152:01] otherwise without doing something with our infrastructure one certainly needs to happen but this needs to happen regardless of what we choose to do in the long term because of the way we serve the public today we're all hazards these don't really support all hazards a good example is that station for the one on the right is south Boulder we know our wildland interface challenge over there I couldn't put a wildland truck even a small one in there along with the big one in there even if they could jump trucks to go to a wildland incident so the space just isn't there for for us to be nimble as a workforce but they that fits three firefighters because it's housed so it doesn't even work well from from a fire station perspective it worked as a temporary location 60 years ago when they built it which is what they were told so that's that let me switch over to advanced life support and

[153:00] for the sake of really more the public and than anything else there is a difference in levels of response when you call 911 you get usually get both depending on the nature of the call we call it basic life support we call it advanced life support the fundamental difference between the two is that advanced life support responders can bring life-saving drugs to the scene they can do invasive things that basic life support responders cannot it the simpler version of advanced life support is like a step down version of the ER the docs are going to kill me but it's the step-down version of the emergency room coming to your house or business without the doctor without the nurse but with delegates who are pretty highly trained I'll show you what we do today so you can see what what we give in Boulder we give both today als is part of our service delivery so I want to be clear about that the other piece is ALS does not have to be on an

[154:00] ambulance only ALS can be delivered by any truck that has the requisite space and includes fire trucks for for advanced life support care so this is what we do today so if we do not add any funding at all our eight trucks out of seven fire stations provide basic life support they can do basic things nothing invasive although we have stepped up our game I will say that so with minimal fiscally constrained environment we've already added skills to our emergency medical technicians that many places don't do outside of Colorado more than anything and that is they can start intravenous therapy that cannot push drugs like like the paramedics can but they can do that and they can do some advanced airway techniques so that our responders can do but we get basic life support from our firefighters and then ambulances around

[155:00] the city provide the advanced life support and that's where the ten minutes plus comes in when the ambulance gets there that stops the clock for the ALS time and right now it's between nine and eleven minutes that's by contract with AMR that's who provides that service for us we can do it they can do it that really the difference in the two models right now we do BLS they do ALS and patient transport what we did put in here we did want to make clear is cardiac arrest survival times are not just a function of how many responders you have in the community if we teach compression CPR to bystanders if we have more advanced if we have more defibrillators throughout town those are the devices that shocked the art if those are available then we have a multitude of responders besides the fire department in AMR that can help us start moving the needle upwards and my point

[156:00] is is that even by adopting those goals there are still ways to achieve higher levels of survival rates with smaller levels of investment if we invest say twenty thousand dollars on the education side on make sure we have defibrillators around town making sure more people know compression CPR if that makes any sense so I'm hoping to help with the funding question here by saying it's adopting the measure and then in any given year we start talking about well we can do this or we can move the needle even further if we move down the action path is what I'm trying to portray here so here's what advanced life support looks like under the action version in short all we're really saying here is that we would raise the level of our eight basic life support units to advance life support so we would have paramedics on the fire trucks they would have all of the gear they would need and

[157:01] then it doesn't matter for fire truck cuts to your house first or a name this gets to your house first you are going to have an als responder at your place fairly quickly you can see there is a cost to that because I'd be raising the level of training for our responders we would be adding the equipment and we would have to light response vehicles in the system added so that those responders can nimbly get to different calls in the field that's that model under action that's still a five to ten year plan to make that happen if we followed that route all the way through the final version under vision in the master plan suggests this if we want to lower our ALS response times then we take all of it in that is we take the ambulances so we start doing patient transport as well and what this does what both the action and the vision

[158:00] well what the vision version does for us is something over and above what our current model that is and then is if you have EMT paramedics on every truck in the city and there are 12 or 13 of them now I have responders that can respond to any type of emergency right now I can't use any ones this for anything other than a medical call but if they are on trucks that have the firefighters that do all has this response then it can be part of my first response to a traffic accident and help actually get people out plus a second unit to help out with that if that makes any sense so this gets us everything in-house no third party provider doing patient transport but everyone is a firefighter in the city and there more of them and you can see representative of that is at full rollout basically in 10 years time that's what the cost would be in an annual basis - our net of patient care revenue so here are the two fundamental

[159:02] questions for council did we address the feedback that you gave us last month you think we hit what you asked for both in terms of the memo and this evenings presentation and and then the second question is as the goals go does council approve and accept the goals that we put forth for our master plan going forward so thank you for putting that up I have a question so on page four 49mm is total annual and incremental cost so I think this is one of the things that we asked you for yes when we saw you last and so we've got the action ALS cost and then the vision ALS cost and so I'd ask you to describe those two so the the the the cost the incremental costs yeah and

[160:02] what is action of what is vision so vision I assume is transport action is having ALS first responders you're asking for the funding piece of it though it was yeah so so yeah you've walked through a ten year funding plan for both action and vision okay I'm gonna ask Devon Billingsley to come up he's our senior budget analyst to help walk us through the ten year incremental changes sure so um I'm a Devon the only and I'm the department's a senior budget analyst and so are you asking for like what is included in the action plan versus what is included in the I think I know the answer but I would like to hear you tell me sure so in the action plan it is I hire based a LS which means that

[161:13] that the param nedick's would be on the fire engines themselves and then in addition there would be too light response of vehicles that would respond to lower acuity medical calls in the Vision Plan that is the full five ambulance model and there

[162:01] so and that that would be in in addition to having paramedics on all of the engines as well and that's in there are some other mmm all their differences but those are the primary ones I thought we were asking financial questions well yeah so I wanted to hear that too okay so you know what the response difference would be and then yeah I mean I think the dollars and cents are laid out here pretty nicely everything I'm sorry well and just ask can you go back a slide or two where it mentions the cost the the vision one oh right there so you have here the full rollout requires an additional five point four

[163:02] five million in annual operating costs so but the the chart there in terms of total annual and incremental costs has by the time we get out to 2030 it says the annual incremental additional cost is 2.1 million so you definitely maybe you could speak to that just as ensue that those are very different numbers absolutely so so I would actually focus on the line that is right a love that that that is the total annual cost so you can think of that as more of a cash flow okay but the the incremental cost represents is on a on an

[164:05] incremental of alleged dean the basis which is how the city budgets how much more each year on top of the previous year's amount would would the we as the fire department be coming to it ask you for nachos it's an increase over the previous year it's totally so then by 2030 we have to look at the sum of all of those annual increments to get the total additional cost from where we are today in innocence yes also know that

[165:02] there are some [Music] on time costs also in here that I decided to not break out in this particular chart because it just it just becomes too too busy but that is all in the the master plan gotcha so by the time we get all the way through it the ten years from now each year we'd be paying five and a half million more net than we do currently I will I will also actually comment on those we actually so these we prepared for our this slide we prepared for our our presentation in

[166:04] December and we actually Harry picked those in the sense that we picked the years that had the highest costs so you won't see costs higher than that but it but in this chart here you can see how over time it gets ed out so and we really did it on purpose because we wanted to be as conservative as we could and while in the master plan it's it's all sort of viewed in more of a cash-flow way as it is here on on page 449 that would be the cost it you would probably see in year twenty five twenty twenty-five and twenty

[167:07] twenty yes and actually in the i'll stop here in a second but in the in the chart in 2027 there's actually a significant decrease crane criminal but actually you called n/a rather than doing the - of what it was before correct yes if you sum it all the way across it you have to get into - through anyway it give us a good sense of it but I think maybe the point that I'm getting from this is that that there's some significant additional costs over five or six or seven years as you create the services correct but once you get to full implementation the additional amount each year is essentially it's that it right is well I'm not sure over what we if we didn't this is over our baseline of fiscally constraints so we didn't do anything change didn't do anything with ALS and

[168:02] didn't do any of the implementation that that chart that you're looking out calls for then we wouldn't be looking at an additional five point four or five million and annual operating cost right but I think we're hearing from Devin is that the worst year is five and a half million more but once you settle out it looks like you get closer to true really close to two million more three million more year I would say you know I'd say it's between three and three and a half three nights a that's probably this sweet spot and that would be five to seven years out though you know worked longer yeah yeah exactly and that wouldn't you just just to give you an idea that would be eventually ramping up the patient care revenue coming in as opposed to not collecting it early on in our relationship with a private third party so they would step them down step up like that understood okay thanks for that explanation I have a question about that

[169:04] chart again in terms of can you move if do you have to stay within the action or vision the respective path that you're on the whole time could you jump from action into vision in year three or something in 2023 that's a great question it actually works out to be if we did it let's just say our long-term goal was to be something like the vision either way it looks more like the action upfront as we raise the level of the firefighters and and the the fire response units up to ALS status so that gets us eight units over time we would realize the action long before we'd ever get to the vision and the vision piece would be simply okay now we're gonna add

[170:01] a couple of extra 12 action calls for adding a couple of extra light rescue units with paramedics on them but then over time bringing in the patient transport piece that's the vision version of it so once you do the patient transport then you collect all the patient care revenue and we don't pay a subsidy to the third party like we do today so I hope that makes sense you you wouldn't bump up and down you would probably do action first and then get up to vision so so it's conceivable then that as you move through time there's a certain nimbleness there that should the funds come available you can move into path yes ma'am just to follow on to that is the main difference the transport piece so I mean in any case all of the firefighters who are gonna show up are going to be paramedic trained and are either

[171:00] division or the action but the big difference is that you're transporting yes yes sir okay and so that has an implication of personnel as well as equipment yes okay thank you okay do we want to open the public hearing okay anything else you want us to know before we open the public hearing no sir okay so see no no one signed up good would be so disappointing if you have somebody to testify see something in the last Colorado called in first Michael I'm a first person first name person and so I would be happy to support whatever Michael thinks is most

[172:00] efficient and dollar-wise for the city of Boulder I understand from the past explanations that fire truck always has to come that's really unfortunate I believe a lot in like community pleasing except community you live to support sweet but what I don't support is 311 Mapleton being built on the urban wildlife interface and causing more demand for for these services and I've heard you say in fact I was reviewing a tape last night and I heard you say that this actual thing causes you know having higher risk development like this and Gilbert white would turn in his grave and it's the same thing with fire as it is with water you don't build in the floodplain you don't build on the fire zone so I say no to everything until you reduce the hemorrhaging but

[173:03] that's what I have to say every single time I come up here it's all about blood and just put on the turn stop the bleeding stop the overpopulation and then I can support what Michaels doing yes Thank You Lin okay so shall we close public hearing and bring it back to council who'd like to start us off Mike and in the document you referenced a construction cost for new facilities at $800 per square foot is that mostly specialized equipment I mean it can't be simple construction costs these are not so there's an elaborate there's the boulder inflation factor on construction in general but fire stations also by design the the weight of the trucks in the bays in

[174:01] particular require the highest high compression concrete but all the sports spaces as well the positive pressure you need built into keeping bad stuff out of the living spaces so all those little extra little design features that go into fire stations make them a lot more expensive than your average commercial or industrial construction cost and then overlay of course the boulder piece of it and then the 800 also includes of course land acquisition which we all know is not cheap unless we can jump on you know a public-private partnership or some other opportunity that comes up which is why we've said if if we have a funding source or some sort of commitment to go there then there is an opportunity to jump on something like that sooner rather than later and then we can make longer-term plans from there okay thanks it's a quick question nice to see you have any life support

[175:01] services that they provide to the community or is that are we solely serving them we are their sole EMS and fire service provider and do they pay anything for that no anyone else okay so I think we've said this enough time so the most striking thing on there is page 450 that is a comparison of other surrounding cities and as as per always we pride ourselves on how great we are and being able to save our citizens lives probably be towards the top of that list so when we are looking at the budgeting process I think it's really important that for all the things that we love and want saving our citizens lives gravitates towards the top of that list so I'm looking

[176:02] forward to that that process personally also I think we might get more public comment if this was called the keeping people alive master plan unfortunately it wasn't so maybe you know in the next iteration we might consider her name change name change for the department yeah because I'd love to see more public participation surrounding topics that's important also I think you'd hit the nail on the head I would love to see a public-private partnership someone donating towards a new fire station one or more more you know wealthy community members or community businesses that would really be helpful at this point even if it means we have Google on the side of our fire engines on down if that's providing the level of service we need so here's looking at you community hm I'm just gonna tie those two together

[177:00] for Adam I believe a number of years ago see you offered to buy at least one fire truck if we would put the like buffs on the side of it and we rejected that I didn't reject that somebody rejected it so um to Adams point I think that was one of the community benefit options to look at things that we need within our city that could be provided so it's an option out there I believe I wanted to ask a question of the chief about there was a comment in the memo about this being a living document and is that how is that different from other master plans I can't speak to the other master plans but I can say the intent of the living document piece as we set the targets and we're constantly checking

[178:02] through our programs whether we're hitting the targets coming close to them they're supposed to be stretch goals as they are and then we're supposed to generate conversation both internally and then periodically to you all as to how we're doing and whether we're making the target or whether we should adjust the targets down or up that's what really we mean by living document those strategic results can be adjusted if need be so I thought that was a real interesting point in the in the memo I agree with what what Adam said with respect to this is one of the most important things that if not the most important along with police that a city is responsible to its citizens for so I jokingly said earlier that this is you know timing is everything however I do

[179:02] think that we need to be patient with ourselves and make sure that we're considering the whole big picture with the financial strategy and see what comes of that but I think this this is a very very different master plan and I thought it was unlike not not to diminish other master plans but this one had just some real realistic performance measures to it that tied them to dollars it wasn't it wasn't you know well to achieve this master plan we're gonna need a hundred million dollars of operating so it you know it wasn't that kind of thing so I really appreciated that one comment that I would just like to make in general about the defensible space and that particulars that there

[180:00] are well I hope that we work in partnership with like ready to work or maybe even attention homes to come up with social enterprise kinds of approaches to to create helping citizens create their defensible spaces but I thought this was a great master plan and I think it's just the way it was laid out in terms of having all of these achievable performance measures was very I think game-changing I'll put it that way yeah like what Mary said I thought y'all did an extraordinary job that it was the the details and the metrics and then all the different goals and how they were connected to funding and timelines incredibly specific and also laid out a pathway for achieving those which I thought was was really

[181:02] impressive and and like Mary said you know we were talking about earlier a lot of master plans start out with a vision plan that says if money were no object you know if you could spend it three billion dollars what would you do and then we get these approved them people like well how do we find the three billion dollars to realize it I mean while your vision plan is not cheap it's also not sky-high and completely unattainable and also ties into really important outcomes and goals that would be very desirable for the community so I'll just answer your question here that I absolutely accept those goals within the master plan and well I agree with Mary we can't we can't budget on the Dyess tonight as part of adopting a master plan that we do need to look at all the different pieces through the financial strategy but I would hope that we would prioritize these goals highly because the safety and survival and

[182:00] health of our citizens needs to be right at the very top of our priority list so thank you alright I'll be happy to jump in here I thought this was an excellent master plan and I think the areas of focus were the right areas to focus and to what Mary said you know having measurable achievable at least you know metrics by which we look at you know the way that the fire response serves our community was very thoughtful and so I thought this was a very good break down your four areas of focus I mean I'm just gonna come out and say I I think members of our community would be very disappointed if they saw where we were relative to our peer cities and I think that's a very important we don't want to jump to conclusions about where we want to go with the budget process I agree with that Mary but I also do think as

[183:00] you said this is a truly important service and you know there's no alternatives there's us and AMR who are providing the life support in this community and I think looking on page 450 I would be disappointed if I were comparing us to our peer cities and I were you know not in a position of decision-making but we are in a position of decision-making and so I think we need to take this very seriously but do you think you know we can have a discussion whether when we get to budgeting we want to do action or vision ultimately I think we want to end up at the vision plan I think we want to do our own transport I think there's lots of good reasons for that but we don't have to start there necessarily and so Mary you you talked about a transition and maybe when we get to the budget discussion we can talk about what that looks like but I think

[184:00] you know we're one of the more educated communities in Colorado and I think people who were looking at the level of service for life support would would not be very happy with where we are I'll make an observation of an opportunity that will be in front of us in about a year the community culture or safety tax which was originated in 2014 for three years and then was renewed in by the voters in 2017 for four years would sunset absent a new vote in 2021 and I'm sure this is a discussion we will be happening having either late this year or early next year about whether we want to ask the voters to continue the community culture safety tax which is a 0.3 sales tax and if so for what purpose and for how long if we maintain it at 0.3 I think it generates about 10 million dollars a year at 0.3 if I'm

[185:00] remembering correctly you don't have to confirm that I'm just remembering that roughly and of course there's any number of things we typically because these taxes have been real to a short term I think we typically want to fund capital things with them as opposed to ongoing operating but when we have that discussion and probably start to have discussion in less than a year we can talk about what 10 million dollars a year of course at least stretch it out long enough we can bond against it so 10 years gives you a hundred billion dollar bonding capacity - the interest whether things like the capital outlay for EMS or fire stations number four or two might be on that list I just want us to kind of Park that for you know it probably is probably discussion happens after the 2021 budget but from a capital outlay standpoint there may be an opportunity out there to present that to the voters in November 2021 along with lots and lots of other things I'm sure

[186:04] anyone else so I guess in answer to these questions we should probably get some consensus so I think we're all happy with the goals did I hear pretty good agreement with the goals and my opinion is that you didn't adequately address what we asked you to I mean you've got metrics you've got costs and you've got a rollout plan so Tanya I would turn to you and say is that what you mean by accepting a master plan is we feel like this is a good plan but we don't have to address the funding component right now correct yes and so the action before the council listed on your agenda is actually a motion to accept the master plan so that would be the request by staff tonight I'll make a motion okay to adopt the fire master

[187:00] plan second sorry Adam did you mean keeping people alive master I would love if we can make that friendly amendment right now but o cube does is just for expediency okay any discussion so so hands all in favor any opposed nope very good job thank you thanks thank you just everybody everyone so under matters from this city manager we have the council retreat follow-up as well as the motion to amend the council rules and procedures and working agreements which were discussed at the retreat I'm gonna get started well Tom's

[188:01] pulling up the PowerPoint yes there should be one for me so while we're finding the PowerPoint in front of you is a green sheet so I would just draw your attention to the green sheet based on CAC discussion today we did make some changes to the items that were in your packet and so I'll walk through those the first section of of the green sheet is the 2020 2021 major priorities so these were the priorities that council previously had discussed at the study session prior to the retreat and we had said yes the direction from Council yes move forward with these priorities into the next two years based on discussion

[189:01] at CAC there was a suggestion that we actually reframe the priorities and create clear council actions and so this was staffs attempt to take what were the major priorities and develop key actions around them so I'll just walk through each of those council actions and how they related to the priorities to ensure that we haven't missed anything or Mis misunderstood councils direction so the first one is adopt racial equity plan so this ties with the advancing racial equity but the action before clear action before council is racial equity plan at CAC mayor Weaver had raised well what about bias and microaggression training bias and microaggression training will be part of the plan so it still rolled into that item boulder

[190:01] electric utility development we didn't make a change to that because that's project specific adopt climate mobilization plan so that was what used to be the climate mobilization plan but really the action before council is to adopt it adopt a stew community benefits and site review criteria oh I apologize we have a spelling error the next one East Boulder sub Community Plan launched the financial strategy committee so this was previously financial strategy Study Committee but we're saying we're actually launching that so there's the action so Tonya can ask a quick question so would we want to adopt the East Falls or sub Community Plan okay thanks for that clarity evaluate so the next one is

[191:04] actually the longest action item and this was what used to be homelessness so what we have that listed as evaluate complementary approaches to the homeless strategy that further housing diversion and supportive services okay implement middle-income down payment program and adopt ordinances related to manufactured housing strategy so those were the two key actions relative to housing implement police oversight so that's the action of updating the ordinance hiring the auditor monitor and seating the Oversight Committee no change to see you South annexation South Boulder Creek flood mitigation and then adopt phase to abuse tables and standard

[192:01] revisions and then under vision zero there's a lot of actions that staff are taking under vision zero but as we looked at council specific actions it was the residential speed limit review what's commonly also referred to as 20 as plenty so that coming to councils so this was staffs attempts to create action around the council priorities based on CA C's request today so it looks like all of them have a verb except first to use self annexation and South other Creek flood mitigation which is problematic for me because it doesn't give us a direction and an action to take so just to help out I think that Joe is expecting us breaking those out between annexation and flood mitigation I think Joe is expecting a decision from

[193:02] Council in May what's the name of that decision does anybody know so so we can find we can follow up on that and create that an in action and maybe separate these two out too they've just always been lumped together but create those as specific actions and I think it might be picking a concept or promoting something to design could be the second part and then annexation at least giving us a what are we doing in 2020 with regard to like what's our 2020 finish line a verb well isn't there in August design completion design there's a there's a milestone that happens in August if I recall correctly foresees oh yeah there might have been I know I know but we're gonna hear next week is report

[194:00] of the of the consultants and then request by the for us to have community engagements for the next two to three months so we're very sporting commissions and then I think a adoption of Huggies word adoption of a plan in May and so and that's comes back to us whether it actually happens in May or not I don't know but I think that's an action that Joe expects there needs out of us to move forward so for South Boulder Creek if we say adopt south boulder cleek South Boulder Creek flood mitigation plan just has Joe well I guess I have a little bit of trouble with the premise here that in terms of turning them all into action items because I think for some of them going to specific then takes away from the larger effort that we want to be accomplishing it's like for example vision zero to me I think is

[195:00] a broad-based effort that we want to be moving forward on all fronts and generally we are but to just say residential spent review then is what we should be doing other actions on vision zero as well similarly like with the advancing racial equity that's a broad-based initiative and one piece of it is adopting the racial equity plan another piece would be implementing the racial equity plan but I think we're doing other things as well so I actually I think kind of Rachel's point about like well how do we word this yu-sau thing to get it just right I mean some of these things we don't know exactly what we want to do on it but we know it's an important priority so and then it's also really long so you end up I think there are a number of wording changes we might have to mess with and then it's also very lengthy I'm not I kind of like it the way so let me just offer a country of you it is long I'm a little troubled by non-action words for

[196:00] a couple of reasons number one I don't know like what housing means I don't know when we've done housing I don't think we'll ever do housing and the second is and that begs what we have omitted for example does that mean that transportation is not a priority does that mean parks is I mean you know when when when everything's a priority nothing is right so I think that we need to I think the purpose of this is to outline for ourselves and staff and the community the things that we hope to accomplish and if we're not specific about that then I guess we would just at the end of your pet ourselves in the back and said we did some housing and I don't know what that what the goal was so some of these are really clearly have goals kind of implied in them like east boulder sub community I think the implication is we adopt the plan others like housing or vision zero don't really call for an action there ongoing things that go on forever never never and then they would beg the question why don't we have lots of other things that go on and on

[197:00] forever so whether these are the right worse or not I don't know but I would I would suggest that we have a checklist that we can work off of by the way we should put a fire master plan on the list so that we can cross it off it all right so Tonya was the the thinking as you came up with these proposed key actions was to because this is what we have on our CAC agendas and then at the top of our purple sheets that we get so was the idea to leave the major priorities and then add key council actions was that and I guess maybe more to Bob and Sam or it was that the thinking to eliminate the major priorities and replace them with the key council elections so this is a bad idea and I think the way I heard it this morning was that we wanted to be active as opposed to passive so as opposed to

[198:02] homeless homelessness right what does that mean what's the activity around homelessness okay so so okay so as that's what I what I'm hearing is that that people want to keep keep it high level as well as having some specific actions so that at the end of this council term we say hey we did all of these things but we kept our eye on the bigger ball up here and all of that there's still more work to do within all of these and is that kind of would that be yeah I'm not I'm not fussed if we do both my suggestion is just somewhere we should be mindful of our list of 13 or 14 items that we kind of are committing to ourselves into the community we're gonna try to tackle over the next 12 or 18 months no I know I think I think being able to check stuff off because you're not gonna check off housing and homelessness right so so I think that having a list of things that we can check off is is a good achievable

[199:06] metric that we can you know to keep in keeping with the mess the fire master plan but and then on see the Cu South - Rachel's point about having some sort of action in 2021 according to the timeline on the website the final design should be complete so we could say final complete final design just to propose so help me if you don't mind so there's a 30% design completion right that's like the next thing we're supposed to get to which is when we can then apply to the federal agencies right and so it seems like if we're trying to check off things you know on our pathway to success and see yourself the next action item into 30% design completion

[200:01] because that's what allows us to apply to Barbara Corps of Engineers is that right yes okay that's right I mean just as far as keeping on track it seems to me like the 30% design completion would be the next gating item to progress once you south does that sound right or you could say the same thing and phrase it a little differently and say begin permitting processes sure so if I get that sounds great good but maybe if we have both and I think they they serve complementary purposes right so in maybe the the the first area I mean we can still call it major priorities we could call it focus areas you because it doesn't like homelessness isn't an action but it is a focus area right and then so if these are focus areas we don't need active language but then

[201:00] having key council actions I like that point Bob about well what are we what are some milestones along the way that we won't accomplish so for example the residential speed limit review I'm excited about that's one of our key CEM selections as long as we still have a focused area of vision zero people think well one of the things that's missing here for me is microphone mobility definition so one of the things that I'm concerned with is where these skateboards go where the scooters go you know kind of that whole cluster of micro mobility and we have clear rules for bikes I think but we don't have clear rules for other you know one wheels but I think if we got those then we could talk about during the pilot program so until we have rules that govern micro mobility modes and I don't think we have any handle that we could do any kind of pilot program because these things aren't allowed anywhere yet so this is

[202:02] just along the vision zero thing I think there's another big important thing for me which is where do micro mobility modes where they allowed and so if we're gonna call out these actions I would like to add that one and then so then if we're gonna call the top category focus which I'm playing with there and that's a good suggestion the one that kind of jumps out of me that seems to be missing because I know it is gonna be a focus area this year we've already started talked about it is transportation right I think we're gonna spend a lot of time on transportation and quickly funding around it and so I don't know if transportation becomes one more thing on the top and then adding the the item that Sam just mentioned or maybe transportation is in lieu of vision zero since we're gonna have some action items down below so I don't have a strong feeling on that one it does seem to me that if seeing that we're gonna focus on housing but not focus on transportation seems like an intentional decision by council is signal to the community that transportation is kind of secondary this year which I don't actually think it is

[203:07] so one thing that I struggle with is like people come to office hours and ask for how do I get involved with the homeless strategy that we're looking at or where are we with the East Boulder sub community plan things like that so I'm wondering if we could do a third layer as well so we've got the priorities actions and then kind of where are we because they don't come you know it'll be months between you know when we talk to the fire department and then they come back and and I know things are happening but I don't know what I don't know if they're at boards I don't know like on homelessness I understand there's going to be a joint meeting between AB and HRC but that doesn't like I couldn't go somewhere and just find that and tee that up for community members so it might be helpful if I could click on each of these actions and see like who's whose cord is it in right now and where can I direct people resources

[204:00] Bob's word and I agree with the point about transportation and maybe it could be transportation slash vision zero so as long as we're diving down into each of these evaluate complementary approaches to the homeless strategy that's just much so I don't know how we can make that more concise but you know we want to work on the homeless strategy but I'm not sure we need to call out everything that we're hoping to do there so what if we just call it evaluate complementary approaches to the homelessness strategy yeah the way we used to do this on hab is say I would we know what that means now so if anyone asks in the future it means that plus all those things we listed and it's on it's on so to your point to your question I would direct that to Tanya

[205:02] and see if she has a way to link to resources yeah link to resources well we'll work on that because given this conversation tonight we will be doing some updates on the council action guide the council action guide has historically been I'll call it a static document and there has been I'll say frustration expressed that it hasn't always linked directly to project pages where you can get some of the resources that you were asking for Rachel so we'll work on it and we can follow up and share that information with its council what the next steps could be okay so do we want to ratify this is this you know we happy with where it is one quick thing I forgot is since I think we might be the only ones that have this I want to read that line out loud just we know what it said evaluate complementary approaches to the homeless strategy that

[206:00] further housing diversion and supportive services so I'm going to add micro mobility here anything else others want touch but yeah I think Erin's suggestion about maybe some 0s potations laughs yep can i maybe repeat a full summary of what I believe I've heard okay so what I've heard is changed the title of the first section from major priorities to focus areas this would be the section that would be listed on the CAC agenda so would be the guiding kind of force as we scheduled vision zero would be vision zero slash transportation to accommodate both maybe maybe transportation slash vision zero because bigger thing followed by this then under the key council actions summary we will be striking but not losing the meaning

[207:01] under the homelessness strategy so taking out that further housing diversion and supportive services we will create the burbs around Cu South annexation and south Boulder Creek flood mitigation that reflect where we're at with the projects looking at 30 percent completion etc some some of the action words around those two projects and separating that area had a really good suggestion with that which was begin the permanent begin state and federal permitting and then we will add my girl mobility and then we'll look at how we can provide better Resources contacts project updates for all the council action items yeah you know last point Tonya I know in a perfect world wherever this resides I don't know where it's gonna sit and for us to refer back to these would all be clickable actions right they'd all be clickable and we just click on it take us right to the in our magic we're all in our wonderful

[208:01] world our visionary world these all be clickable to a project web page right ideal and for a lot of these actually we'd already do have pages correct right where would this reside then you do what do you see this being published or being able to be referred to it would be on on the council resources page and then direct so once again ideally direct links to the department home pages our project pages that are housed these council actions that's fine whatever the most public place we can put that put it out at and and the other request I would then make would be then when an item is completed we should celebrate that by putting a little completed or some sort indicate and having a party and having a party and I was only half kidding about the fire master plan that'd be a good accomplishment said dick right off so I'm just following up on your thoughts

[209:02] sure seems like these are our priorities and here's the council web page that we could put them right on the council web page and there with your clickable links mm-hmm and then this is when we have our mid-year retreat which we're going to talk about in a second this would be something we could reflect back on and say alright how are we doing so that transitions right into the next steps so there was also further information just on the retreat conversation on projects and process that was included in the memo I won't spend any time to review that information but happy to take any questions from Council so the next steps in this process is going to be what's new this year is actually out loud mid-year check-in previously there was through an IP council received a mid-year check-in which was really a

[210:02] narrative of where we were with council priorities or focus areas this year at the retreat Council decided to actually have the check-in we have scheduled that for the July 14th study session the council retreat subcommittee its staff recommendation that the sub community meet to help design design and shape that mid-year conversation with staff I will note that we have Heather Bergman scheduled to help facilitate that conversation happy to take any questions [Applause] oh can we go on to the rule changes okay

[211:08] so I will try to make this brief but I'm happy to talk at length if you want to about detail changes in the rules because this is my favorite thing so the rich at the retreat these are the list of the things that I took down as counsel wanting us to change in the rules rotating the study session chair allow for a change in the time of the CAC meeting clarify that CA she should not schedule meetings from more than 4.5 hours allow for Madison substantial Public Interest to be placed first on the agenda provide that no more than two substantive public hearing shall have scheduled at any one council meeting unless necessary provided emergency measures should be limited to the quarterly supplement matters in which there's a deadline and matters affecting life health or safety eliminate the requirements for advanced study session summaries as I went through the rules I found typos all bits of things that should be gone and I detailed those in

[212:00] gory detail in the memo but I don't I could I have them all here but I don't intend to go over them in any detail here if you have any questions I'm happy to answer them some of them were recommended by the clerk's office some were just obvious like a piece I missed when we changed the way of nominating the mayor that I should have taken out two years ago so these are the the substantive changes the working agreements this is the staff proposed there was a provision in there that allowed the mayor to adjust the speaker's time the speaking time is detailed pretty carefully in the were in in the rules so I thought having that in the working agreement made no sense and no mayor that I know has ever adjusted a speaking time for a speaker and I'm doing it for an interval speaker would probably violate the First Amendment and then the the the one that council member friend suggested was limit the prohibition against electronic communications to quasi just lyrics and that has been made so the Revised Rules with red line changes our attachment a to the memo the revised working agreements our

[213:01] attachment B to the memo and so what I would like is a motion to approve those amendments really I said one question for leading the CAC meeting that rotates did you include in there that it could be somebody who has like a special expertise in the area so the summary sessions study session yeah the way I write like it's kind of soft it says it shall be rotated generally based on the who's serving on the CAC then it should also include the Mayor Pro Tem and the mayor and that it can be adjusted so it gives you the flexibility to do it whichever way is appropriate for a particular meeting but does that give the flexibility to have somebody who's not the CAC chair or the mayor or part-time yes Tom can you go back one slide please source maybe it wasn't on there maybe you were just talking about it but I remember we had an issue at the

[214:00] beginning of our term with the choosing of the mayor and the mayor pro-tem and putting the proper rules in place to tell the new council members exactly when that's gonna happen how that procedure occurs is that anything that needs to go in here is that something we can do outside of this it's something that we should do and and I think we kind of did do in the orientation we just didn't make it clear enough and we basically gave you a fire hose to drink from and so council orientation is now only two council elections old so it's a it's an evolving process that we as a staff are trying to do better and I promise you we will do better about that next time okay thank you two other things that I think we've talked about maybe either at the retreat or since the retreat and I don't know where they go well one of one of them I think is just direction to the Charter Committee so the two things were very suggestion at the retreat about allowing non-resident board and Commission appointments that probably doesn't go anywhere here I just wanted to bring that up of course if that was the will of council to explore

[215:00] that then I think that becomes instruction to the Charter committee because I would charter change at an election and the other one I think we talked about is possibly changing CAC meeting times so that probably doesn't go and rules either I just want to raise it what the rules say right now is that CAC meetings are generally held on Monday mornings in the manager's office and they have been held in the matters office for many years and they're not there they're held on Monday mornings so I took that language out and said they'll be scheduled by council so it gives you the flexibility to to choose whatever time cuz it wasn't clear to me what you're gonna choose because I think there's a survey going out right now about that issue so you could just decide what to schedule I just wanted to do for comprehensiveness I just wanna make sure that we do those two things yet their address well so can I add to scheduling CAC meetings Tom Thomas correct we're surveying staff right now based on the times that were discussed 30 5:00 or 5:30 start

[216:01] time and we're planning to circle back with CAC as a starting point of what those results were to have that discussion and determine how to bring that forward to the whole council this is just an amusing thing I thought you were trying to get it for hours I think that mark and I were actually trying to get to four hours but I don't know that we got consensus around that my recollection was that four hours was recommended but you kind of all agreed on four and a half but I'm having to revisit or you're not gonna get any objection from me that's what I heard at the retreat I mean I can live with four and a half with good intention of getting it into four best efforts would be fine so Aaron I've got the nerve we've actually been coming under time and we may do it again tonight you know so if you go forward since we're due being so efficient Tom it looked to me that there were at least a couple changes missing in the redline version from that we're

[217:00] in the summary like the electronic communications I don't see that actual change in attachment the working agreements in the working group but there's an attachment B okay but there is an on page 20 of that there is an item nine during a council meeting refrain from electronic communications in the clinic I missed that if that's in the council rules we should take that out yeah so that I think that I don't know if you wanted it's a whole paragraph it's got a whole set of things more pages page 20 of that item do you know the packet do not I'm working on it and did it that wide open I think the larger packet has the individual page numbers of the items in it

[218:00] yeah it's page 574 Mary yeah and then similarly the bit about there's a bit about signs in council chambers yeah that hasn't been changed I thought we've I thought I read that in the packet that a bit about the size of the signs not just as they relate to council chambers but just in case we move meetings to other places yeah this this does not appear to be the redline version well there you go that's the problem yeah I apologize so given that maybe could could we adopt like on consent at the next business meeting yep so that let me put it put it on consent and do it and I apologize I was away and I did not get a chance to

[219:01] check this and that's awful but I don't see any of the changes in here look we'll make sure that we get those thank okay noticing that Erin thanks seems to me in the past on the working agreement we actually had council members sign them yeah we agreement it was like one version we speculated around is that something that people want to continue I thought it was helpful okay so it seems like we're done with 6 a and 7 B and Tom you're gonna bring this back on consent yeah I'm trying to figure out what happened there's some some of the changes are in here yes and what version this is but I'm sure it's my fault so we'll fix it apologies Thanks ok do we want to move on to 7a ok matters from the city

[220:10] attorney is a not a 5-4 the staff to develop an ordinance addressing the licensing and regulation of him yeah so so as you'll recall it's a fairly detailed memo basically the difference between what both hemp and marijuana or forms of cannabis marijuana has THC and hemp does not with the growth of the interest in CBD oil which is contained in both products can be attacked from both products a lot of people are producing hemp in fact as you'll see in the memo there are more hemp producers now in Boulder than marijuana producers hemp has the same issues for the community that marijuana does in terms of safety it has the same odor complaints it has the same risk of fire the extraction methods that are used to extract the oil you involve butane and other chemicals we've had several

[221:00] explosions the fire department is particularly concerned about finding some way to regulate hemp so the I've listed the the there's also the security issue one of the the challenges we've always had with marijuana that we now have with hemp is dumpster diving and break-ins because people believe that it that it can be used for the discarded can be used so we we have pretty strict rules about how you describe discards yes disappointed people you could have how you just discard marijuana when it's not being processed we don't have any such rules for hemp there's also a question of equity to operate a marijuana business it takes a bunch of money and you have to comply with some pretty strict rules you don't have to do that with respect to hemp and they're now all competing against each other for the CBD oil business so in terms of fairness the staff would would like to an out of five for us to go ahead and explore basically duplicating our marijuana licensing and

[222:00] regulatory system in the hemp area and we'd also like you to do your comments on whether or not a hemp should be a part of the new marijuana Advisory Board and and even changed the name to the cannabis advisory board to make it clear that we're including both hemp and marijuana and those and the ordinance that you passed on first reading today gave both options so that you can choose either second reading so it would be staffs recommendation that hemp is included as part of the marijuana advisory board and my own personal belief is that for those of you who were around in the early days of marijuana regulation it was very tough on council and staff to have the industry coming in every few weeks with changes and having a group of citizens prevented presenting a balanced approach to regulation has been incredibly helpful for all of us and particularly council but staff as well so I would recommend that so that that's where we are we're only asking for an out of five to go ahead and develop the ordinance we

[223:00] originally put this on for a study session the CSE did not believe that it was well did when you had time to consider considering some of the sub study sessions you've had to deal with in recent times and we did not want to delay this any further so I was asked to just bring it forward as an out of five for just direction on whether or not we should go forward with regulating in these areas come and remember if this was in the memo so apologies if it was it's not on this list weed one of the things that we would evaluate also would be the possibility of having contributions to the UF the energy offset find out the way we do for marijuana no I don't believe that was in the mountain but certainly we can do that and we probably should I think that would be considering just duplicating what we have in the marijuana regulations but I can certainly make sure that that's included yeah that just for me I'll see what the other people say I would I would add that your laundry list of things to do because I think they're they're these businesses are similarly energy consumptive the way marijuana grow operations are there so Tom would there be any issue with

[224:01] changing the name of the advisory board to cannabis when 22 people applied to the marijuana advisory board well I suppose we could have asked them I don't know because they it seems to me like they applied for something and now it's kind of changing yeah we're giving them more work although my hope is is is that they can help address the challenges between the various businesses in a way that would be productive so I guess a suggestion could be that we just let all these applicants know that the name is going to be changing and we're going to be adding hemp you might also want to consider whether or not you want to try to recruit people from the hemp industry as well yeah because they may not have applied because it wasn't yeah I wanna

[225:00] go there yeah that is a great a great point because I think the the applicants might well be interested in doing both but had had folks in the community known that hemp was also gonna be under the purview that we might have gotten some different applicants which is but we've closed Recruiting's it's a tough it's a tough one to deal with I guess I'm a little concerned a couple things here one is it I mean we just got through our work plan and I've I thought heard what we talked about with the retreat was to not had substantial items to the work plan Midway some I'm I'm a little concerned about the workload there but but also just that I mean it certainly I hear about the life safety issues which I think would want to do something about and the odor question seems like an important one but I don't know that given that hemp is not a drug in the way that marijuana is I don't know that that we would want to just duplicate the marijuana regulations for

[226:03] hemp cultivation so I guess I'm a little concerned about the direction this is going some little little nervous about giving you not a five to go to develop something complicated and then bring it back for something I'm not sure that is the exact right way to go okay one thing I remember reading the memo was that cannabis does turn into marijuana at certain phases of its processing so that's that's something to consider I also was the plan Tom to provide the knot of five and then come back with kind of a scoping we could I think the plan was actually to just bring back a first reading ordinance oh is it is it a big work plan item no I don't know the for us I think we've got most of the

[227:01] work done so we kind of know what we've done from marijuana we've got a lot of experience the question is for counsel and Aaron makes a great point you're adding something to your work plan that's probably going to get some public interest at least from the hemp industry and so you will have to have a public hearing and you'll have to make some tough calls well in and I would want a fair amount of outreach I mean I don't know have it I've never talked to somebody who makes him you know sorry so that we I think you'd want that part of our normal process reach out to businesses which I'm yeah I'm agree there and I thought we sort of agreed as a process that if something wasn't an emergency we were gonna like put it in the parking lot until July and then pick up everything that was in the parking lot and say which of these do we want to prioritize or move forward with if any so I guess if we say yes to this then if something a little that I you know may seem more like an emergency comes up next month and this turns into a public process that's on par with vaping or

[228:00] something then I think we've hamstrung ourselves a bit and not followed the process we just set up okay may I respond just briefly I think that what you're doing is telling staff to go ahead and work work on it your time is controlled by CAC so if something came up you could just put this off and address it so it's not necessarily committing to council passing any things you haven't seen anything yet it's it's basically authorizing us to work on it but it is a valid point of course yeah you talked just a little bit more briefly about scope so is it just the health and safety of cultivation that we're trying to address or how far beyond that are we going Adam I think it goes a little bit beyond that I think that there's also this equity issue of between the marijuana and they have businesses and the feeling of some marijuana businesses that they've invested heavily in the community that they're heavily regulated that they're doing it right and there's a bunch of

[229:00] their competitors who don't have any of those requirements gotcha okay and I'll just remind us that this has been something that Tom has been asking for for I don't know four or five months now so it it may be new to new council members but it's been something he's been trying to get on our agenda for a while so and to Mary's point hmm you know hip is not marijuana but it's certain points in its processing it can have THC concentrations which are similar so I mean I think that's one of the the challenges that we have with him and it's processing is it can cross the line from non psychoactive to psychoactive so I think that was one of the points that you brought up right Tom and your memo yes that's in the middle so I'm personally fine with authorizing

[230:00] staff to go work on this just because staff has requested that of us how about the rest of you I'm okay with it and just to respond to Rachel's concern about our workload is it as CAC and we can be looking ahead at where there might be holes in the meeting agendas and schedule it then yes yeah I'm also on board just for that reason I think CAC does 20% of the work in setting up the agenda and we do 80% of the work of making sure that we're moving things along so so far it's proven that we've done pretty well so I'm okay adding a little bit of work that staff is willing to do if we FCA see is the barrier to when it happens for us okay yeah I'm good with this I think Thomas addressed the identified a need and I'd like to see them be able to pursue it and then we'll deal with it

[231:00] when it comes down the road okay okay that's fine I I'm I'm just not necessarily on board with that whole list so just want to get that out there probably less I would I would lean towards that being maybe too much but I would need to learn a lot more in anyone else it seems like we have five I counted five so I think you got your nod great okay it's called so I think we I hate to say it but it seems like we're at the end of the agenda No anyone else have anything to bring up Tonya anything else 22

[232:01] [Laughter] this was a little longer parasol felt like that [Music]