December 3, 2019 — City Council Regular Meeting

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[2:12] [Music] so welcome to the Boulder City council meeting for December 3rd 2019 um before we get started i' just remind people that sign up for open comment is closed um in accordance with the council rules uh the public hearings tonight if you can speak to any subject you want at open comment except for something we're having a public hearing on and so tonight we're having a public hearing on the certification of the 2019 elections so if you wish to speak to that um you can wait until that public hearing um and then I'd like a motion to amend the agenda by adding item 8A which is Council discussion and input on resolution

[3:00] 1275 committing the city of Boulder to promote racial equity and City relationships programs services and policies mayor Weaver can I do roll call First sure I'm sorry council member Brockett pres friend here Joseph present Nagel here swti present wallik here Weaver here Yates here young President we have a quorum can I so move for your request so moved there second okay all in favor of amending the agenda it's unanimous okay um we will now go to open comment and I would just remind us that at open commentor oh sorry thank you I forgot we had that so council member friend we'll read this resolution declaration

[4:11] hi can I call uh the representatives from boo gear oo coffee scientific Aviation and uplight to join me up here okay thank you I'm here to present uh B Colorado companies to watch month December 1st to 31st 2019 awardees the governor of Colorado initiated an annual Colorado companies to watch award program in 2009 to recognize second stage companies with high potential for future growth for more than a thousand nominations only 50 companies from throughout the state are selected for the award each year and four of the 2019 Colorado companies to watch winners are from Boulder yes

[5:01] these these four Boulder companies boo gear OZO coffee scientific Aviation and uplight represent a range of Industries these four Boulder companies support the local and state economy by providing important goods and services and employing more than 400 individuals the boulder economy benefits from the expenditures these companies make in the local community and the wages they pay the city of Boulder benefits from The Innovation and entrepreneurial Spirit of these companies and their involvement in the community the city council of the city of Boulder Colorado declares December 1st to 31st 2019 Boulder Colorado companies to watch month and now I'm going to award certificates to each of these four companies and ask them to take a minute just to tell us about your companies all right first up hi everyone uh my name is Mike conrath I'm VP of product at uplight um uplight is a company of about 250 people we

[6:02] recently merged um two companies that are in town here uh one was called Simple energy the other is tendril now known as uplight what we do is focus on working with utilities to help improve the relationship with their customers and focus on Energy Efficiency and energy management so we work with these utilities to create um Energy Efficiency programs run them on the utilities behalf and really change the way that utilities interact with their customers really help them be part of the Clean Energy Future so we are certified bcorp which means that we um are not only about helping improve shareholder value but then also helping society as a whole which is really important to us and we're really proud of um we've done a lot of work in the Energy Efficiency space uh one of the things that we like to talk about is that of all of the different programs that we run the different um energy efficient uh products and services that we get out into the wild has done enough to take the city of San Diego or the city of Pittsburgh off the grid for an entire year so that's the type of thing that we're trying to do and the type thing that we're trying to focus on here in Boulder thanks and we're really happy

[7:05] hi I'm Steve Gibson I'm the Chief Financial Officer for boo gear um clearly we're Boulder based it's sort of in the name and we were uh you know we think of ourselves is we are very much born in Boulder and we are a maker of endurance headwear and accessories for some of the biggest country uh companies in the industry and for a lot of teams and clubs we started about five years ago right now we have I think in round terms we have um we sell in about 25 countries we have probably 2500 customers and we're up to um somewhere around 25 employees mostly both based in the Boulder area and we continue to leave live and breathe uh the endurance uh activities that we were based on based off of and we're we're deeply [Applause] honored hello I'm Justin Hartman uh founder of OZO coffee and uh we're a

[8:03] locally owned operated and Boulder Bone born company founded in 2007 um our mission is connecting diverse communities through coffee and that is what we uh that's that's our vision that's our mission so our our one of our main focuses is going to origin countries and sourcing our beans directly with the farmers um ensuring sustainable wages and growing practices and we like to bring that back to Boulder um all our we do we do small things in the in the community to uh support our communities with donating to schools and you know local religious groups or nonprofit groups that are looking for donations for their fundraising events and and that sort of thing so we we try to do great work in our community we also try to do great work in the communities that grow our coffee uh last year we did a fundraising uh project with with uh our group in

[9:01] Peru and we were able to raise I think right around $14,000 that we gave back to Peru or our farmers in Peru to help them with uh solar dryers for their coffee so the excuse me with the weather changing um basically there's becoming more rain during harvest season so it's raining after they're picking the crops and letting it's supposed to be curing and drying but it's raining on it so we we pitched that uh that extra funds to them and then their Cooperative matched their funds for that so it basically doubled it um we saw the coffee quality go up by three points which is you know if you drink wine there's we score coffee CED of wine um anyway so we like to try to do great work at our growing region as well as in Boulder County um mostly buying organic coffees all our to-go wears are compostable um we barely throw out trash um we have one small trash can like this at every one of our stores and a

[10:01] dumpster for compost so um we've been doing that since you know before the trend of that was cool so uh when they when the city was like should we put compost bins on the sidewalks you guys are doing compostable cups already so they came to us to check that out so uh just some small things we've been doing U we're happy to uh accept this award my name is Sonia Walter and I'm one of the owners of scientific Aviation and as the name suggests uh we do science from small aircraft and drones it's uh primarily atmospheric research it started off um working mostly with universities uh who are interested in pure research but in the meantime has expanded quite a bit to include a lot of energy companies who are looking to cut down on their emissions so they're looking for leaks and uh this summer having gone from you know one man and

[11:00] one airplane to a company of about 10 employees uh the this summer we expanded over into Europe and we're doing work for the United Nations um in Norway and Romania and there's a third project to be to to be determined uh possibly in azerbijan uh looking at their oil production areas and then also working for the European bank for reconstruction and development in the Ukraine also looking at their oil facilities um it's been interesting that the Ukraine has been in the news so much lately um but anyway so yeah we're Boulder is a great place for scientific Aviation to be located because of all the uh resources around here Noah and nist and enar all the atmospheric research that happens around here and we are very excited to accept this okay congratulations again to all of you thank you for representing Boulder so well keep going thank you all [Applause]

[12:03] okay now open com okay all right so now it is open comment um each speaker will get two minutes and just as a reminder um Council and staff will take note of any questions we are asked and we will address it at the end um and so if you've got comments or questions that you want us to speak to um we will take those up at the end of open comment so first speaker is Evan rabbits followed by James FY and Mason Moyer thanks hi Evan rabits North Boulder um as a member of the city's campaign finance and elections working group I spearheaded the charter Amendment which allows for City online petitions for ballot initiatives which voters approved 71 to 29% in 2018 a few months later we were offered a free online petition system by

[13:02] national nonprofit maplight if we had accepted the offer it would likely be ready to go now ready for the 2020 petition system instead City staff secretly rejected the maplight proposal and according to the camera want $400,000 in the new budget for an online petitioning system which includes so-called two- Factor authentication like he used to transfer thousands of dollars between Banks this is massive Overkill because 38 states allow you to register to vote without it and the National Conference of state legislator doesn't recommend it why should we require greater security to sign a petition once than any state requires to register to vote for the rest of your life what's truly absurd is we're told our phone number numbers and emails

[14:00] which are used for two-factor authentication will be stored on the Secretary of State's website which doesn't use two-factor authentication and so there will be no real additional security just hundreds of thousands of dollars of additional expense and inconvenience for users we're also told it won't be open-source software as Citizens wanted and map light offered and that means more security problems and it won't be available free to other cities and states maplight can no longer make the pre free offer but they could give us the system we need for far less than the city wants thank you Evan the new Council should take control from staff next James feny and then Mason Moyer and then saridon Haynes hello I'm James FY from North Boulder yesterday council member Bob

[15:00] Yates shared some thoughts on city council agenda in his Boulder bulletin and I thought to myself how should my concerns about dark sky ordinance enforcement factor in city council agenda given all the topics demanding attention seems to me that the answer is simply that my concerns about enforcement of an ordinance should not have to factor into the City Council meetings at all as it is the city of Boulder has a city Charter which defines the legal duties of the city council and its officers in that Charter city manager is simply required to the ordinance of the city enforcement of the ordinance is not supposed to become a matter of further and repeated discussion and review before city council after the ordinance has been adopted an enforcement is not supposed to be subject to selective application with some class of people entitled to protection of the laws in another class not so much and yet here we are again still with city council failing to Simply require city manager to do her job there is still no what and by when with apologies to our new council members and after a year of petitioning Council and failing to receive any

[16:01] substantive rational response to my claim that City Boulder simply enforced the dark sky ordinance requirements for residential outdoor lighting and for the moment putting aside the issue of Street lighting and the associated conflicting Clauses in the ordinances and standards I will try a different approach now subsequent to council previous request for and review of my specific complaint to the city manager let me turn the table instead of me explaining to you why the ordinance must be enforced let's have Council please explain to me why the dark sky ordinance is not being enforced for residential Outdoor Lighting in my neighborhood if necessary we may then address any dispute in District Court and so we are clear I am not asking rhetorically for an explanation I expect an answer thank you Mr feni um Mason Moyer then sidon Haynes and Anna Seager hello I'm missa moer Boulder Colorado councilwoman Nagel I'm here today because of you I am here because a

[17:02] little over two years ago I watched your campaign video and listened to your story a young woman having been raised here having come through affordable housing in which you leverag the process to buy a market rate home and were a small business owner all things I could relate to but more importantly you shared uh that you were in this to create a win-win situation for all of us I thought that maybe we had a chance to elect someone who understood the process and challenges enough to bring that lived experience to councel and help change our community I along with many other women in this community thought the same we elected you because your campaign promises and we believed in you since being on councel I have found you uneducated on social justice issues ignorant to even the most basic of race and class issues Your Privilege as a white woman has insulated you to the realities of our black and brown community members lived experiences and has done harm to many people in addition for those of us working to elevate marginalize voices create Equity within

[18:00] our processes repair the harms that have happened for decades and to live the values we are values as a community have stated in our comp plan you angrily dismissed our concerns and called us obnoxious it is my understanding that several of you opted out of gar the last time it was offered and that several of you didn't attend the listening sessions for people of color in our community and that several of you have never stood up or spoken out for anyone of color in our community when harm was done um what what was that on purpose tonight I asked that you if you're going to sign the resolution committing the city of Boulder to promote race and equity and relationship programs and services and policies that you understand what you're signing and do not sign it if you don't believe in it and that you don't want to be held accountable for it so understand the language know what you're what you're signing on to and if you need help or any education on this there are plenty of people probably in this audience or within other programs that could help you thank you

[19:00] Mason no hey so we won't be doing any clapping we want this to be a safe space for people to speak up with anything so please do this just like we always have uh Saron and then an Seager and then Sean Rod hi thanks um I just passed a gift on to um nearby and I'm holding my copy here and there's a note for you nearby I um I had been told when I was considering joining you up here that um my mentor said are you ready for strangers to tell you how much they hate you in the grocery line and so I know that this is really hard and this conversation about whiteness and and race is so difficult and so this is an invitation I have some friends who want to join me other white women um and I'm sure there's some friends of yours who might come and um we can do this together just in the New Year go through and have a book club I know some other people people have done it it's it's an

[20:00] answer everything that we could say or do as white people is inadequate to really face the challenges um that we need to to um address uh anti-oppression but we can do this we can hang out we can have we could go to Trent they have fireplace we can read we can talk in a safe place um and really learn um the uh um the conversation's never going to end in our lifetime so I just hope we can engage and um do what we can with what we got with where we're at thank you um next is Anna seeker and then Shan rod and Suzanne DeLucia hello I wanted to extend a welcome to all the new members of city council um I'm here to discuss member Nagel's recent remarks on race and inclusion I'm speaking up tonight because the rise in hate speech and hate crimes Nationwide and because white nationalist rhetoric is emanating from the highest level levels of our government council member Nagel is white

[21:01] privileged and in denial that she enables and perpetuates racism and privilege uh when signs were hung in restaurants buses and schools that said whites only it wasn't to highlight the diversity of whiteness it was to construct whiteness as a means to exclude people of color and it is this historical exclusion that we seek to address as a private citizen it's up to um council member Nagel if she wants to be insular and uneducated but she chose to be an elected official and as such she must adhere to a higher standard in her comments and subsequent attempts to justification member nle was inarticulate disrespectful uneducated and thoughtless not only did she deny the concept of white privilege but she stated that the entire discussion was not even worth having such rhetoric is often found in white nationalist Outlets that seek to curtail affirmative action with claims of Reverse Racism and seek to negate the issue of police brutality against people of color with statements that all lives matter it's clear that member Nagle is ignorant of how racism

[22:00] and privilege impacts lives of people of color on a daily basis and Boulder so I wanted to share some examples of racism that my Latino husband and children have faced here in Boulder uh the bank teller refused to cash my husband's check and asked him where he got it from my husband was pulled over at gunpoint by Boulder Police and on a case of mistake in identity my husband was repeatedly asked what he was doing in a community garden because they didn't think he looked like he belonged there my husband is frequently made to wait in line until all the white customers have been served um who arrived after him have been served my husband was rear ended by another driver and who then told the cops that my husband should be ticketed because he doesn't speak English my son was told by his school classmates that they were going to get him deported thank you Anna Sean Rod is next szanda Lucha followed by Riley manuso sorry it's actually R don't know what happened to the a that's okay I'm here today because I was deeply offended by the comments that you made at the last council meeting as the mother of two children of

[23:01] color and a member of this community I want to start by saying I have no problem with Sam and Bob as mayor in protom I think it's perfectly appropriate given their experience and frankly nobody else raised their hand but you didn't say that did you you didn't say nobody else wants it let's move on instead you went on a rant denying weight privilege and denying the racism that our people of color in our community are experiencing every day you are so privileged that you probably have no idea what it's like to be asked for a receipt when you leave a grocery store you are so privileged you have no idea what it's like to have your neighbors call the police because your black child makes them feel uncomfortable you're so privileged you probably don't even feel uncomfortable at a football game when your schoolmates are Chou we're rich we're white were the Fairview nights you're so privileged that you have the privilege of not even looking Us in the eye when we're talking to you you can sit up there and ignore everything that we're saying that is not okay we need space for everyone to State their opinion safely you have the

[24:01] privilege of probably not even knowing that any of this is happening in our community because it doesn't affect you and I'm here to ask you apologize acknowledge what your statements were acknowledge the privilege that you have and get out there and learn about what's happening in our community to the rest of the council I would just say I wrote an email that was really really hard for me to write I was so upset about this when this happened I got one response to that email one response I have seen two of you Rachel and Aaron make public statements maybe the others have I haven't seen them but your silence is deafening and that honestly is part of the problem Ain thank you for speaking up when the comments were made at the last meeting Rachel thank you for your comments to the rest of you please do better thank you Sean Suzanne Del Lucha Riley manuso and Stefan hadel good good evening I'm Suzanne Delia I live on Stone Stonewall place

[25:02] I'm here this evening to address the uh mayor mayoral selection issues and to show support for councilwoman Nagel um some of what I wrote maybe is not applicable based on what I've heard this evening but um to set the stage I want to say I began my career 30 years ago as a chemical engineer I know work in business Acquisitions a profession that's just cresting the female un um employment threshold I could Regal you with stories of discrimination and unfair treatment that I have experienced all along the way but I've only got two minutes to speak um I the point I'm trying to make is I know what an old white boys club is when I see it I don't think it's going on here I I know I'm white um I think we're all privileged in oh so many ways just to be here uh but I have not seen the

[26:00] racism in councilwoman Nagle that others are expressing um I mind-boggled what happened actually at the first council meeting and I also feel abuse was given to uh councilman Yates and Weaver uh these were the only two candidates that wanted the job from what I understand I do not believe a freshman council person is qualified for the job and it's experience that is necessary to be effective I worked on uh councilman wallick's campaign and he jokingly told me he didn't even know where the rest rooms were at the first meeting he had no ability to act as mayor yet it would be an extreme disservice to the community to have someone who didn't know the ropes trying to function in this capacity an analogy would be kind of like having a doctor just out of residency promoted to head surgeon in time and through uh proven ability to work with the people thank you thank youel for your wisdom and

[27:02] attempt to bring reason to the situation I'm horrified so next is Riley manuso followed by Steven hell and Mark gband good evening uh my name is Riley manuso I work in the city of Boulder although I can no longer afford to live here this past summer I served as a mentor to a young student of color who was interning at my workplace and and as we spoke about his future career goals he expressed significant apprehension and reservations about the possibility of moving to Boulder to work and to further his career and because of the systematic racism that is still omnipresent in this city um I think people have already address addressed the ignorance and insensitivity of councilwoman Le's comment so I want to make it clear to the entire Council that it is not just

[28:02] about saying the right thing it's not just about the words that you use or the lip service that you pay the reason that Boulder that the city of Boulder and Boulder County remain deeply racist and racially segregated places is because of your policies and your actions all of which are influenced by the cultural and systemic and historical inequality of a country that not so long ago enslaved black people systematically excluded them from buying homes and living in neighborhoods including in the city of Boulder and it is up to you need to make changes that show that you are aware that race ethnicity and all of these issues affect everything from the arbitrary laws like the camping ban and smoking ban that are disproportion uh that are twice as often enforced

[29:00] against people of color in this city you need to take action in all of your legislative decisions to overturn this Legacy thank you thank you at Le Steven hadel followed by Mark gelband and Richard O'Brien hi there Stephen hell um gos grve um I'm here to talk about the snow removal lack of snow removal from crosswalks cross Cuts bus stops the bike path um for the last few years I've been dealing with this um last year I was disabled I had broke my knee in the summer I was on crutches I was using a cane pretty much all winter I would have been homebound if you look around at the audience tonight there's nobody here that's disabled they probably can't get here just trying to come to the meeting and went over to Al Alphas to get some food there's snow and

[30:00] ice all around the crosswalks there I on my bike you have to Lug that over um this is I we've had a big storm but this happens after every storm um it takes me doing inquir Boulders calls getting somebody on Council usually Aon helps out um I called Jane yesterday the city manager um but it takes way too much effort to the city to provide services um people that walk people that use Transportation there's a lot of minorities and women um that are being underserved I yesterday biked to work and I just told my wife take my car don't even take the bus she did the day she had to run after the bus on the rapo because she could not get to the bus stop out because it's under 2T of snow and this is the this is Snow from

[31:01] the snow plows this is there's neuropa plowed there crosswalk and over the weekend it got plowed again under two feet of snow so hopefully we can bring this up and actually fix the problem for the next storm thank you thank you Stephen um next we have Mark gband followed by Richard O'Brien and Patrick Murphy I too am here to address councilman Nel um and Sam when you're sitting here talking about a safe space to come up here and provide two minutes of commentary and then have a council person say that we're being obnoxious for calling out systemic racism in this community is quite frankly obnoxious it's ignorant it's disgusting and Mr Wallock I hate to tell you something but you know you talked about the fact that the mayor is just largely symbolic and that it wouldn't um uh mitigate anyone's opportunity to

[32:01] provide feedback in this room when just prior to that an open comment a Latino woman had spent her time saying that she she didn't feel as though she were properly communicated to regarding the moratorium so it was as if not only could you not find the bathroom but you couldn't even listen to a woman of color speak because you clearly didn't hear what she had to say and with regards to just not getting an apology to the community you got all defensive in your letter and I'll tell you that as the son of a holocaust Survivor and a first generation immigrant I find your illusion to your Judaism offensive disgusting and you really do need to educate yourself when it comes to what it means to the kind of privilege that we were talking about because what we talked about wasn't just the fact that they were white men what I talked about was the fact that I'm looking at two of the most privileged single family homeowners I've lived in this community for 30 years and I've watched policy

[33:02] being made primarily by and for the richest whitest most privileged single family homeowners undeniably and it is time to look in the mirror and take some responsibility for the decisions that you've made that have obviated the concerns of people of color in this commun commity and the less privileged I have told you that my biracial children have been called to nword on numerous occasions thank you Mr gilban thank you I'm looking forward to my apology next next is Richard O'Brien Patrick Murphy followed by John Spitzer hi I'm Richard O'Brien uh Morehead Circle in South Boulder I'm a volunteer for the international dark sky

[34:00] Association um I just have a couple of quick requests for you first of all I suggest that we go through the process to amend the outdoor lighting ordinance this year this coming year and second uh to engage in a project to upgrade street lights first of all the outdoor lighting ordinance needs Amendment because for one thing it exempts street lights and so we need to write uh the the language for Street lights and a few other minor things um the street light upgrade project would be to install LED street lights places where we still have the old technology in place um and the good news is that that project pays for itself that the savings are worth more than the cost of this the project so it's going to happen one way or the other it's just a matter of whether we plan for it or not um and if we plan well then there's also a lot of Environmental impact to this uh particularly reduced uh greenhouse gas

[35:02] emissions uh as part of this and reduction in light pollution that we can talk about in on another occasion um and so that's really all that I have uh yes the the two uh just to review the two requests are to amend the outdoor lighting ordinance and to engage in a project to upgrade street lights thanks thank you Mr O'Brien Patrick Murphy V John Spitzer and Lisa Harris my name is Patrick Murphy I live in Boulder this is the preamble to the second annual mun naughty list I

[36:01] provided you with a long and constantly growing mun naughty list at the last city council meeting the list has 24 items and I'll present them to you with additional information and it'll probably take the next three months you may choose to ignore but you cannot hide from the muni failures that make the muni effort an embarrassment and cautionary Tale for the rest of the state and Nation the mun continues its now decade long history of lost money lost time lost opportunities to reduce our carbon footprint we have now officially spent and lost over nine years and33 million those opportunities time and money are now forever lost worse we might have to wait another two years to get a chance to vote to end this waste or five years if the mun continues that unacceptable waste of

[37:01] time and money can be brought to an end sooner with the end of the muni initiative that'll begin January 2020 that initiative will be worded as follows shall the municipal utility effort be terminated and the existing city of Boulder occupation tax be repurposed for solar incentives wind incentives a city of Boulder administ renewable energy certificates broker and programs that promote energy use reduction subject to the same terms and conditions is the original tax including being an exception to the revenue and spending limits of article 10 section 20 of the Colorado Constitution time to end the mun burn the fiddle and let real carbon reduction begin to be continued thank you Mr Murphy um John Spitzer then Lisa Harris and Kathleen

[38:03] Hancock good evening I'm John Spitzer uh I'm a board member of plan Boulder but I'm speaking strictly on my own account tonight uh I would like to welcome all returning council members new members uh to the uh meeting tonight I'm especially pleased uh to see uh strong majority of you expressing support for municipal utility getting to 100% Renewables and off of fossil fuels is critical not only for this planet but it's also very important uh for social justice goals since climate change especially affects uh the poorest people around the world uh with respect to marab Nagel I have known mirabi for several years and find her to be kind intelligent generous and compassionate we should be proud of her accomplishments on console I would also like to encourage you uh on Cil to work together and model the kind

[39:02] of collaborative leadership we see lacking on the national level uh that comment also applies to the audience here tonight I think rather than being uh ranker and and angry we should all work together cooperatively to make it a better City particularly on a racial B basis um we have much to accomplish in the of housing a healthy environment and support for local businesses in our nonprofit Community thank you for being here tonight thank you John uh Lisa Harris followed by Kathleen Hancock and Ben hindorf Lisa Harris 265 31st Street two years ago I was honored to serve as part of the public participation working group we delivered our report to Council in August of 2017 and since then the city has adopted many of the recommend commendations it contained has created a working framework and trained staff on

[40:01] best engagement practices I wanted to address this new councel many of you newly elected and ask you to please keep public participation as an important and primary focus some ideas to offer please prioritize statistically valid surveys of residents alongside accurate demographic data elected officials and project managers alike should be informed about and by the goals values and opinions of residents as they prioritize the work the city takes on second I hope that Council staff as well as boards and commissions will work to improve the degree to which a primary and first focus of every project is the issue at hand or the problem to be solved and invite the public into the discussion of the problem or issue itself rather than starting with a set number of predetermined options here I will note third that there is still wide variety across our boards and commissions which essentially operate as an arm of of council um and I wondered if they may also have occasion to um be

[41:01] provided standards of public engagement as well as the training that staff received um last I think it's important for us to be able to gauge whether these efforts are working and when I read the city of Boulders application on the internet Association of public participation website I came across the award winner for research project of the Year by a Dr Bruce Brown and I read with interest the details of his measuring public involvement Effectiveness an easy to use toolkit I wonder if the next tool in our toolbox here in Boulder is a quantifiable way to measure how effective our community engagement is in specific instances rather than just relying on public um satisfaction surveys thank you thank you um Kathleen Hancock followed by Ben hindorf and Claudia Hansen theme good evening my name is Kathleen Hancock I live here in Boulder congratulations to the new city council members and to those returning um I my comments tonight are

[42:01] about the importance of civil discourse and the very active democracy of Boulder I'd actually hoped that the previous comments would be civil ones and I wouldn't have to say this um but that's not been the case so um I hope that um we can continue to engage in a more civil manner um I've learned a great deal from Resident City staff and council members in the year that I've been active in local politics however I found myself and the group I help help lead under sometimes vicious attack the name calling especially on Twitter surprised and saddened and sometimes angered me while those kinds of divisive rout attacks are routine in National politics I thought Boulder was better than that my hope is that we are small enough City that we can do better that we can sit down and read books together and talk at coffee shops um face-to-face interactions ease the sting reduce the vitriol in name calling as we come to see each other as humans with

[43:00] many common interests Boulder does suffer from racist attitudes that there is no question every city in this country does we have to work together though to solve those what is council's role first I ask each of you to set a good example by showing respect for a wide range of views my experience with Council has been positive in this way and I hope it will continue second set the example of being forgiving of mistakes I'm glad mirabi acknowledged that she could have phrased some things better and in contrast an Advisory Board member once attacked the group I help lead and never apologized or acknowledged how inappropriate his comments were we can do better than that third consider new ways to engage citizens think outside the box do what we can to help heal a divided City so that we can solve the profound issues facing us we can do better thank you Ben hindorf and Claudia Hansen team

[44:00] and cam Netherland it's Beth hondorf sorry I've been here since 1970 I was a delegate for Obama for Newlands I've been on Boza I came from the inner city of Cincinnati as a kid I guess I was lucky to get here but maybe not my kids my kids friends used to say why does your mom act like that and she'd say because she's basically black because she grew up afroamerican this this is would be the greatest uh that would be an honor for me but no I'm not I'm white so anyway I'm here to request that Miss Nagel be dismissed from the discussion of agenda item 8 regarding uh because statements in her last meeting were not in compliance with the intent of the resolution I object to her behavior and statements regarding race and diversity in our last

[45:00] meeting and request that there be sanctions for such behavior and seated a discussion with G in order to resolve this matter as I said I was the newand Delegate for President Obama I could never be expected to speak for him I'm no way as great as him but I know he would object to this too her statements are not in the spirit of what the goal of council and Boulder about basically the council should have stopped the meeting after these comments but I think we were all in shock there's another regarding landmarks and racism and Mr hitt's statement that we Landmark places like Mapleton Hill because they're pretty this idea needs to be oblit obliterated and places with economic and racial diversity need to be landmarked I was especially dismayed When Miss Young's house was not land landmar because Mr huitt said no one significant lived there what is

[46:01] councilwoman young one of our rare Hispanic council members insignificant thank you Beth CL Hansen team then cam Netherland and ly seagull good evening Claudia Hansen theme 4726 16th Street I've already said my piece on M Nagel's comments and the overwhelming Silence from this Council that followed and I wasn't actually planning on speaking tonight but on my walk here I passed on the corner of 20th and Walnut Streets a person with an amputated leg and using a wheelchair digging his own path through the snow from the bus stop to the curb and so I want to talk about Equity after all by some coincidence I've had the opportunity to do a lot of walking on city streets and paths since last week's snowstorm and the conditions even today have been atrocious uneven sidewalk

[47:00] clearance curb Cuts blocked by mountains of ploud snow redded and icy pedestrian Crossings bus stops full of snow with boarding access blocked multi-use paths with lengthy sections of glazed ice the official way to report hazardous conditions like these is through inquire Boulder but to be honest I don't even know where I'd start with that it's a systemic problem and it involves both private property owners and the City as a person who walks bikes and takes the bus regularly I feel profoundly disrespected by how the city deployed its resources in the last week but I'm an able-bodied person in good health and I can still get around if I'm careful I can also drive if I feel unsafe and not everybody has these privileges I know we have limited resources clearly we have more public right of way here than we can maintain given our tax spase but if we have to ration something like snow removal we should be focusing on our more vulnerable residents people carrying loads pushing strollers using Mobility devices or with less than perfect vision

[48:01] or balance and kids we should focus on the types of Mobility we've identified as priorities in our transportation master plan and those are walking biking and Transit so this was clearly an above average storm but it exposed real shortcomings and biases in how we deliver transportation services here and I hope that you will address that with the appropriate staff thank you thank you Cam Netherland followed by Lyn seagull and M Emily wer Wier good evening uh my name is Cam Netherland and I'm a law student at the University of Colorado uh I just wanted to take a moment with this new Council to ask that you please uh reconsider the enforcement of the camping ban in Boulder uh as soon as possible um it is Draconian it is cruel it is harmful and it is likely um based on precedent the ninth circuit illegal um the ban is enforced selectively only against

[49:01] members of our community who are unhoused some of the most vulnerable people in the city are being ticketed or even put in jail simply for being homeless or in some cases like that of Benjamin Harvey free uh dead by freezing to death um on Christmas Eve um in 2017 in compliance with the law uh previous councils have discussed Their Fear of any Mercy on this issue even in just opening the inclement weather shelter for the duration of the winter which I would also urge you to reconsider uh would somehow incentivize homelessness no one chooses to be in the situation there's no incentive structure that will reduce the cost of cost of housing or access to Medical Care or other basic costs of living if you want to end homelessness altogether I would look to improving improving our housing policies um this law is not interested in end ending homelessness though it's just interested in ignoring it by forcing people out of town or into jail um if you feel differently please ask yourself um how finding people who can't afford

[50:01] housing is helping anyone um or why the uh County needs to spend you how much money uh to uh increase the capacity of our jail last year which is largely being filled in addition to yes the city growing with um unhoused folks who have been ticketed and then arrested for um just for trying to survive um yeah just please reconsider than thank you so next we have Lyn single followed by Emily wiy and she can help me correct that pronunciation Lynn are you here not seeing Lynn is Emily here I'm Emily wiy thank you and um I live in North Boulder near Bob hi um so I came to the um meeting with the

[51:01] planning board about accessory dwelling units and so that's mainly what I want to talk about but I also want to say that um I appreciate the discussion about diversity and sensitivity in how we speak and I would like to see us educate each other about the racism in this community and help each other learn how to speak in a way that is more acceptable for everybody rather than get mad and start fights um also I want to say that um I've been on the bus the last week and I can vouch for how this this sidewalks are covered with ice and it's really dangerous um but I want to talk about the accessory dwelling units and the housing and Boulder where we have lots of empty space and existing structures and I would like to see them be filled rather than be building more and more Condominiums and expensive apartment buildings and um so the accessory dwelling units I think are a good solution for that um it helps people who can't afford to live in Boulder to be able to live in Boulder it

[52:01] helps people who would otherwise be isolated to live in community which is really important for mental health and suicide prevention um it conserves resources um I'm an environmentalist so rather than you know impacting the Earth negatively by building more we can use what we already have um it reduces traffic because there's less commuting um I would like to see more people in per house change this change it from being three unrated people to have a ratio between space or rooms and the number of people in the house and stick with reducing the number of cars I'd like to see a partnership with RTD where we encourage where we offer Eco passes to encourage people to live in closer proximity sharing homes creating Community um I grew up in a co-op house my secondary years we had 10 people in the house and two cars um my personal okay so anyway that's enough thank you Emily and thanks to everyone who came out to speak tonight it's much appreciated um so we'll bring this back

[53:00] to staff and counsel staff do you have any comments on what you heard yes thanks um I'm going to address a couple of the items but then follow it up with Bill Cowan who will be speaking about the um weather and plowing situation so um you heard from Mr O'Brien who had recommendations with regard to the dark sky ordinance he's been very helpful with the city staff um in regard to the initial version of the dark sky ordinance and so I'm going to be asking the staff member that he's been dealing with to contact Mr O'Brien and they can talk about how to move on further the street lights is a more difficult issue because it's my understanding that we actually do not own them they're owned by the um investor electric utility and so we do not have control over that piece of it so that's one piece of information um so many people tonight spoke about racial Equity issues and I know that under 8A you'll be taking that

[54:00] up so let me now turn it over to Bill caran who will um address the snow situation and then after um the city manager reports Tom is going to address the issue about the online petitioning Bill thank you before I talk about that um I do believe that there are um some options that are available to us from a street light standpoint to get um LED lights and if it would be helpful I could um I could find that information and provide it to you yeah you need to work with the climate initiatives people so why don't you do that and we can report back on that great thanks thank you um my name is Bill cow I'm the city's principal traffic engineer um and acting as the interim Transportation director and I'm joined here by Cy Hayden who is our transportation maintenance supervisor and I'm going to provide some some information about this recent storm and our response to it before I do that um I

[55:01] want to spend a little bit of time to thank the people who were involved in this amazing response a sincere thank you to Cali and to the 50 people who were part of our snow and ice Response Team um these were people from Street Maintenance utilities maintenance members of our Fleet Maintenance group that kept our vehicles up and running um day and night uh and other volunteers from the Transportation division um these folks worked split 12-hour shifts so that every program vehicle was in the field and responding to the storm for seven days straight that's seven days 12-hour shifts this is an incredible effort and it is possible only through exceptional leadership thank you and um dedicated commitment to public service service from our staff and I'm incredibly proud of them I hope that some of you are

[56:01] watching and I hope that you feel a sense of Pride for the work that you accomplished so I know that many of you um have read the written responses that were provided for public criticism of or snow response I'm not going to go back through a lot of that material um though I certainly have that material here if you need me to go back through it we were hit with a massive storm last week the the storm was record setting largest storm that we've seen since 1997 over 24 inches of accumulation in parts of the city over a 24-hour time period the storm had precipitation before and freezing conditions afterwards all of this significantly complicated our response compared to a typical storm um here are some of those complications forecasts of precipitation rain and snow rain mix before the storm caused us to decide not to apply deicing materials prior to the snowfall that's a

[57:00] complication um we did apply deicing materials during and after below freezing temperatures from Monday to Saturday turned snow that was still on the road and compacted by motor vehicle traffic to ice ice that is bonded to the asphalt surface when people are complaining about the fact that they're on an arterial roadway and it's still bumpy and icy that's what they're talking about um so we've been unable to make much Headway on that or or were unable to until the warmer temperatures um yesterday and today and it's been starting to break up uh the large accumulations resulted in large amounts of snow being plowed to the side of the road this blocks access ramps driveways walls of snow um this is understandably frustrating I understand why people are frustrated by this but our plows do not make snow go away they just make they just move the snow and there have to be decisions made about where that snow gets moved and the

[58:00] safest approach to doing this safety and and emergency response is to do it in the way in which we do it it is very frustrating but it is a a fact associated with this type of event and and I'm happy just to discuss afterwards ways in which we could do that differently from a financial standpoint um but those are significant numbers um most residential streets particularly those not on our secondary routs are not plowed for the first well none of them plowed for the first four days of the storm and this is because we needed all of our assets to be on our primary and secondary routes we don't usually plow residential streets we made the call that this storm was so severe we would be desirable to get in there and do it but um we simply weren't able to get any resource forces out to that for for many days because of the size of the

[59:00] storm and as I mentioned you know there are obviously a lot of other factors associated with plowing residential streets I mean we've asked some people about plowing residential streets and they've told us they don't want us to plow them because when we do that we will take the snow and we will push it up against the side of their cars and we will wall in those cars we will wall in their driveways there's not a a winwin when it comes to um plowing residential streets and then in many areas bike Lanes became the storage space for snow which is also a very frustrating phenomenon it's um there's no other place unfortunately in many streets for the snow to go in that area if there's travel lanes and a bike lane and parked cars and so we have to wait until um the warmer weather starts to come out like it did yesterday and today and then we go out and we we take the pl the snow that's in the bike lanes and we slush it out into the

[60:01] travel lanes and we use the heat that's now present and the cars to then break up that snow and and melt it until the warmer weather uh presented itself that wasn't possible so we're anticipating that this storm will cost the city approximately $400,000 um we'll spend somewhere between 1.6 and 1.8 million on snow and ice control in 28 in 2019 and uh that will be the most that we've spent in quite some time and we'll be fortunate if we're able to cover that um in the transportation fund and we may need to uh pursue an adjustment to base um and then there were it didn't come up tonight but there were some comments that came up about plows driving around with their blades up um there certainly are scenarios where plows do need to to travel city streets with their plows up in particular um if they're trying to get

[61:00] to their other routes it's obviously much faster and and we need them to get to their routes as fast as possible um they can also be aware that we've just put materials down on a roadway and we don't want them to plow when the when the materials have just been placed um and they also can be applying material so it's certainly possible that people who are complaining about plows blades being up are seeing one of these things it's also possible that they're seeing trucks that are not City trucks that are private trucks C dot trucks Etc that are moving through our community to get to private um parking lots or or state facilities outside the city um people also complained about plows being just a couple of inches above the snow um it's obviously not our practice to plow a couple of inches above the snow but there is a pressure that these plows are set at and when you have icy conditions like this um that

[62:00] plow blade uh if it incounters ice uh like it exists on the road currently it's going to ride along the top of that ice and that's going to look very much like a plow blade is is not at the roadway surface um but it would be very damaging to our roadways if we were to apply more pressure um digging into the asphalt will actually be easier than digging into this hard packed ice so I hope that information is helpful and we're happy to answer any questions that you have Bob well thanks for that report that was really helpful and and thanks to your team particularly CI and and all the people that were around or continue to be out working even even as we speak here and I know that you guys worked on Thanksgiving too so thank you for being out there and giving up your holiday I just had a question Bill I'm sure you'll you'll probably do a um a Lessons Learned or debrief after this after after the streets are closed clear and you'll probably go back and reflect on things you might might um do differently or or if there's some funding needs you'll bring those back to us as well so

[63:01] I appreciate that um I know that some cities that have get a lot of snow uh and have the same problem that you just talked about as far as you know snow plows don't remove snow they just simply move snow some cities do actually do snow removals is that is that an option for us is that something we've looked in or do we do some snow removal and is that something that we could expand upon so part of the reason C's here is to tap me if I say anything thing it's not correct so um it is my understanding that we do we have to and especially in a big event like this um we have to windro or pile large amounts of snow and then we have to bring in um front loaders and dump trucks to try and move that out um we there is a massive amount of snow that's currently piled at the boulder airport Boulder airport um so we do do that um that is obviously very timec consuming thing and um is probably not an effective strategy if you were to think about doing it on say every access

[64:00] ramp in the city or something of that nature but we do have to do that especially in situations where we've had to pile the snow in in large reserves okay thanks Bill yeah Mary thank you Bill I want to Echo um Bob's gratitude for the work that you and your crew did over the holidays um I did have a question of about um accessing bus stops and Transit I I've experienced that myself and um it's it's quite difficult and um what are the challenges associated with clearing um bus shelters and stops and yeah access um so we I don't know how many total bus stops we have I do know that we have a subset of bus stops that the city has um taken over maintenance responsibility for it's part of approximately 209 204 different locations 204

[65:01] locations in the city that we contract um somebody to come in and plow for us we or or shovel for us and some bus stops are included in that list uh RTD is also responsible for some bus stops and some property owners are responsible for bus stops um I don't believe however that every bus stop is accounted for um and so there certainly are some bus stops that do not get shoveled or plowed and um and are probably in pretty pretty bad condition right now um but we do try to use some resources to um to clear the the biggest um bus stops the ones that we've taken responsibility for what kinds of um Alternatives um could be or have been explored to provide a a little bit better access perhaps things like um Partnerships with adjacent businesses um Partnerships with

[66:00] adjacent neighbors things like that um have those been explored yeah so again some of the um RTD some of the RTD bus stops are um managed and maintained by adjacent properties um it's relationships that C's team's been able to put together um so we're certainly we certainly have explored that would certainly be up for exploring that more um a great idea that council person Yates had raised previously is to to try and explore some kind of a volunteer program for clearing a myriad of different things um and that remains an excellent idea for us to to explore so if if there are community members out there that are interested in such a partnership like adopt a shelter adop a bus shelter or something like that who would they contact I would say they should contact me thank you yeah as so Bill thanks for talking to us and I'll Echo the thanks of my colleagues for the crews and the enormous amount of

[67:00] work that they did thank you very much I just wanted one other access question so I definitely understand how with a big storm like that um the snow has to go somewhere right and so it often gets pushed into the way whether that's a bike lane or a crosswalk or something like that but some of the reports that we've gotten have been there have been significant Mobility challenges for like pedestrians like people with strollers or the story that woman told about the person in the chair do we focus at all on making sure that their the crosswalks are cleared kind of in the aftermath you know you got to get through the storm but in the days after that say at our major travel intersections do do is there a focus on that at all well the I mean the cross walks themselves um are generally cleared by the plows as they go through the street I think that the issue um is is really at the access ramp that's what I really mean that's the problem um and and that is that is not an area um that uh I don't believe that any of the well maybe I'm wrong are some

[68:00] of the 204 locations yeah so some of those 204 locations that we have contracted out are um Crossings and they might be adjacent to um really high use bus stops or um critical connections through um you know those bike connections through the city so some of those are um obviously not all of them but some of those are and then after the storm we have um we have folks still out um and so we do have people responding to um residential roads as well as going around to different um inquire Boulder tickets that we've gotten whether it's a bus stop or a crosswalk so we are trying to kind of get caught up on those okay it's good to hear just in terms of the the you know the debrief afterwards that might be an area to look at you know that there may be some of those high traffic access points to the crosswalks

[69:00] that maybe we could yeah spend time follow-up time on and and if we were to pursue something like that it would be it would have to be something that's highly prioritized in that fashion the um the 204 locations that we contract out um that cost us $45,000 through In This Storm um there's tens of thousands of accid ramps in the city so the math adds up very quickly sure bill is there a list of those 204 locations anywhere for the public to have a look at I can give back to you on yeah we can provide that okay Adam not exactly sorry about that I'm not exactly sure who to direct this to but uh what is the compliance mechanism for people either individual Property Owners or businesses who are not complying with the snow removal policies and what did that look like during this snow incident I I'll take a shot um so uh

[70:03] like most communities um private property owners are responsible for the sidewalk in front of their um their property the only exception to that is um where we have a designated multi-use path um the city is plowing that uh when somebody does not plow um I believe they're given the time period up until the storm ends and at the conclusion of that is that right and 24 hours can I go sure yeah sure so the law is that they that you're responsible for cleaning the sidewalk um after 24 hours after the storm ends and we always announce when we consider the storm to end so you know when your responsibility begins code enforcement actually does enforce that so um there's a ticket that you can get I think it's 100 bucks if you if you don't shovel your snow if you ignore the ticket the city will come contract with someone and have them come in and do it the challenge of course is that there are so many sidewalks in the city and we don't have an unlimited number of Code

[71:00] Enforcement Officers so there are still I I walk to work today there are many sidewalks that are not been clear there are people who never do it um so it it tends to be complaint-based uh we can't possibly Patrol the thousands of sidewalks in the city uh so it always seems like we are not doing enough enforcement until we enforce against somebody then we hear we're doing too much enforcement so um and I I understand there was I don't have any information about the current stormm we can certainly get that to you because obviously I don't oversee code enforcement that's the police um but there was some suspension of that activity last year for some reason I'm not sure of and we can get you more details on that if you want ad I just want to know the numbers for this one in particular so we can how many tickets were issued in how many ticket were issued how much money that's going to generate to hopefully offset some of this cost yeah um no obviously it won't be that much and it goes the ticket Revenue if it's collected goes into the general fund um Rachel I also want to thank you and your

[72:00] crew for working over the holidays and and it sounds like we did the best kind of with what we had and that we have limited resources and I understand this was a record setting snowfall but we did hear from a lot of people who said yeah this one was abnormally large but even on an average snowfall it's not working for us and and feel like their tax dollars are not netting them proper uh snow removal services and um I I think there are are both safety elements and as we heard Equity elements to it so I guess I just wonder what is the what would it cost to plow everything the way that everyone's asking for it to be done like when do we look at that when when do we see those numbers I understand it's considered to be catastrophically High um I I come from a city that had routine um lake effect snow so we got you know Lake Michigan snowfall all the time and all the streets were plowed

[73:01] residential all of it so I'm just wondering how how do we not afford it other cities do and we also obviously have to do the the bike paths and and multi use paths so I understand we have some differences but I would be interested in seeing the numbers and how we can improve because there are a lot of jobs that are low paid um where you can't call off you don't get a snow day if you are a Direct Care staff or if you are a um working in a hospital or a lot of our high needs jobs police officers they have to be able to get places and and when side streams are plowed it it is a safety and Equity concern right so um I think what you said that was most intriguing is plow um the way that everybody would want it to be so meeting everyone's expectations which would be a myriad of different issues um we would need to probably break them down one or a time um plowing every residential street um being able to get out during the storm and plow it we've estimated

[74:01] that that would take um an additional uh what we did a myriad of different options actually new employees um Contract Services uh that could cost anywhere from an additional $1.3 million a year to um $1.9 million a year um and that would probably provide pretty good service during a typical storm it would be completely overwhelmed in an event like the one we just had um the if you were to do the math I described earlier about bringing in somebody to uh shovel or snow blow or or in some other fashion clear the access ramps which is an issue in every storm that we have um that would just conservatively would probably be half a million dollars every storm that we that we had

[75:05] Mark well because I'm clearly a masochist I want to Circle back to some of the comments made during the open comment period I think when you call somebody a racist that is Mark can can we make sure we finished this one have we finished so I have a comment on this before we move on I will defer anybody else um so one of the so we had a storm like this in March as well I know because I was biking around it was during Biff and it lasted pretty much four days it snowed the whole time and the roads they aren't as bad as this storm but they were bad um and so what I'm concerned with is that we have changing weather patterns that we're going to have to deal with and people talk about it as global warming but it's not it's climate change and the jet stream is dipping down further and further south for some of

[76:00] these winter storms which is why we're seeing longer cold spells and I'm afraid something we're going to need to look at and this is in line with Rachel's comments about the budget is has the past approach to service where we count on the sun being out after three days and warming temperatures is that going to continue to be good enough because these are safety issues and Equity issues and you know know I I did see lots of people struggling on sidewalks during this storm and so I think we're going to need to revisit this if not at the adjustment to base which might be the temporary thing where we put enough resources on this to complete the winter but during the budget process as you know it's something that we've had a philosophy of operation around this since I've lived in this town and it has been we'll get a storm like this every 20 years and then the sun will come out and it will melt everything off well I want to revisit that assumption and see if that's the right thing for our community as we go through these changing conditions so that's one

[77:02] comment and then a question we have a fleet of 15 heavy plow trucks from your your note which was very helpful by the way um thanks for getting back to everybody what does a plow truck cost and then what does an operation for a season typically cost what is an operation for a season or the whole season two things what's the capital cost yeah and then what's the operation for the whole season for a truck on average you don't have to give it to us right now okay I just think that's how we're going to look at appreciate that at any budgeting issues like you know can we do better than we are now and what's the capital cost and what's the Opex and ongoing the Opex is going to be the bigger problem um but up front I think the capex will well we welcome the disc discussion that you just described and are happy to provide whatever data you need to make an informed decision okay how will you work

[78:00] with our sustainability folks to approach the the climate change question um well it sounds like from what you've just described we should contact them and find out what their predictions are for what we should expect in terms of changes in events in the years to come yeah and we have some great resources in town that could probably also help with that at the federal Labs if we could do some kind of partnership with them so okay is are we done with this discussion okay thank you very much very much uh anything else from staff yeah thought Tom wanted to talk about online petitioning okay uh so I've updated before we are working um with to finalize a contract with a vendor that we've we've um identified through an RFP uh I will remind you that this is uh unprecedented no no one's ever done this before anywhere in the world done online petition signing um we are we we have a product we have uh asked the um

[79:02] elections working group to re-engage with us so we've scheduled a meeting on December 16th to have them go over the contract provisions and the plan and to get their input before we finalize the contract so uh that that meeting is netive we're trying to make sure a majority of them can be there that date but we've been working on this for a couple of weeks and U Mr Rabbits will be invited to that to um share his his views with the city staff uh and I also wanted to remind the community that uh the study session next Tuesday includes an item on the municipalization there a couple speakers on municipalization tonight um we'll have a detailed report for Council uh and a study session on that next Tuesday great thank you okay bringing it back to council um question for J I want to go back to what you um Mr O'Brien and Mr fi have mentioned the um the lighting ordinance that sounds like you've been your staff's been working on on examining some potential changes I was going to actually suggest

[80:00] that as a work plan item for 2020 it sounds like it's already maybe a work plan item for 2020 or do I need to formally ask that to be I would say to to ask for I don't know how big of a work plan item it is so I probably shouldn't say this but I don't think it's a huge one that one my sense Tom and I have talked a little bit about too about some changes the ordinance could be cleaned up and whatnot so um well I'll make a request okay that would be perfect you know and we'll talk about it at the retreat and then and then maybe your team can size it yeah there is a the international uh Dark Skies ordin Association did produce a new model ordinance after ours was passed right so we could at least compare and look at it was drafted by Engineers though so I'm but that that's at least a starting place so it might work or thank you it might work okay so coming back to council Mark you were next next said want to address I wanted to address some of the

[81:00] comments that were made during the open comment period um as I started to say before I think it is a very serious allegation when you accuse somebody of racism I think you need to know what's in their head you need to know what's in their heart and based on my experience I do not believe even for a minute that my colleague is a racist you know in in Boulder we we rightfully emphasize uh the values of diversity inclusivity and Equity but they're not the only values of importance in this community and I think some of our other Bolder values are respect kindness and Grace and unfortunately there were too many comments this evening that seem not to include any of those values um instead we got comments that largely consisted of outrage and anger but anger does not persuade and outrage does not teach and neither of those emotions are going to light the path to

[82:01] a better future for this town that's racism I don't think so this should have been a teaching moment of conversation and dialogue with respect to one of the most crucial issues of our time and instead it was far less than that and devolved into abusive council members and I think we ought to be doing better and as a last thought on this subject let me leave you with a final thought John 8 verse 7 let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone thank you okay anyone else well I will want to respond to that and uh I guess to the White Privilege issue in general but I thought I'd be doing that under 8 a so I'm a little confused right now well um I I thought two things about this and so this is the will of council um one is I thought that we would bring up some of the immediate responses to what we heard now and then

[83:00] we would move on to AA and have a a further conversation the way I feel about this and this is just my opinion is that there are people here who want to hear about this now and so we could have a 15minute conversation it's pretty typical that we do followup of some kind so I would suggest a short conversation now and a more lengthy conversation under matters can just process y just that um we might make more uh General statements about these issues right now and when we get to a focus in on the details of the resolution that we're yeah consider um so I I was in the bathroom so missed uh the beginning of what was just said but um I want to thank the the people who wrote and came and spoke to us tonight about white privilege and and I want to be clear that that is also not calling somebody racist if you're calling out right White Privilege that's

[84:00] not necessarily the same thing first of all so I think we need to work pretty hard on not being defensive um when we hear the community asking for help and they've been suffering and um there were words stated from this dis that caused harm and words are hurtful and um so I think think that we need to do a better job of being open and learning um and committing to change and um and appreciating community members who speak out because it's not easy I also appreciate my colleague who showed up to to take in the feedback I'm sure that wasn't easy um and uh in terms of the requests that we have had to kind of have solidarity with each other that is is a form of Oppression in my opinion we can't have um people in positions of power protecting other people in

[85:01] positions of power we can be um respectful and and show civility but that is um a tool of Oppression so I think we need to be very guarded about um closing ranks so that's all I'll say for now anyone else Barry so I wanted to respond to Mark's comment about this being a teaching moment and um I I think that's how we should treat it as we should all treat it as a teaching moment and I just want to share with you all just my path um to learning more about um all the issues of racism in this country and how they manifest themselves and um and first of all I just want to say that I wasn't aware that I was different until I got here when you grew up in a place where 80% of the people look like you and talk like

[86:00] you and live like you um you don't realize you're different and so it isn't until you come to a place where people are asking you where you're from that you go well I'm from Boulder it's like but anyway um so that's just some context there but just in in my my joury J started when I got on Council and I felt that it was really important to begin to understand um this um issue because um I started getting um because I was the only person of color on I didn't even know I was a person of color but um because I was um I started getting um emails and calls and having conversations with people and I just thought that it was very important for me to become educated and so um I started reading and reading and um I've read a lot of stuff um but it wasn't

[87:02] until about a year and a half ago when we started down this um gar Journey with the government Alliance on race race and Equity was that I started reading history and really digging into the history and some of the stuff that I'm finding out just really hits home how deep seated our um policies are especially in this town um and I'll give you an example it goes back all the way to 1859 and the founding of this town when um when of course um Native Americans were displaced and then you fast forward a little bit when the city hires um Olstead Jr to do the city planning and some of his recommendations are to do things like um allow you know sell the lots for

[88:00] $1,000 which is really really high at that time so that only a select um people can live here and then um and Olstead actually despised Native Americans by the way um so fast forward even a little longer when Boulder decides that um we will not have dirty Industries so what happens when you decide to not have dirty Industries when you have denied African-Americans um black people the right to an education well immediately they all leave because they can't find jobs so when you compound all of those things together you begin to get a picture of the answer to the question of why is Boulder so white and so I'm just saying all of this because I wanted to share with you all that this is a

[89:03] self-guided education and you have to start with some intent and some curiosity and a Devotion to um of time to it because you can't um you can't call somebody a racist without knowing and understanding that we all are we all are because we live in a structure and system that was founded on policies that were working against black people specifically and so I think um we just need to move forward and be kind to each other and understand that not all of us have spent the amount of time that it takes to really begin to understand how complex this is and how

[90:01] enormously um taxing it will be to dismantle it and so I just um we'll talk more about this but I just wanted to share that that um calling somebody a racist is a failure to understand that we all are and um and I think that's where we need to be is to understand why that is anyone else thank you for that Mary it's very powerful I just a few a few additional thoughts I mean I think is as Mary commented and the I think discrimination and racism unfortunately are baked very deeply into the structure of our society um you know with the uh you know the legacy of of uh slavery and um the Jim Crow laws and segregation um and redlining and all the various

[91:01] forms of discrimination against African-Americans and other people of color are very much still with us um so I just I I think it it's important for for I personally believe that that I think white folks all of us who are white need to work hard at understanding that history of discrimination and um and do what we can to reverse those um those things and I think that's especially those of us who are in leadership positions and there's no um easy solution there no easy answers but I think it's very important that we um do the work that we can to not to understand um our history and to uh not just call out things that are actively racist but to work um uh on being anti-racist ourselves uh in and that's about looking deep within each of us um because we are all racist as Mary says that's uh it's about a self reflection in a personal Journey as well as uh I think for those of us in leadership positions working seeing how we can uh do what we can to arase the

[92:00] legacy of um the structural racism that we have in our society so I'm glad we'll be considering this resolution later tonight um I think the people who've come to speak on this topic um there are very there are a few things more difficult to talk about than issues of race in our society but it's important that we have the courage to confront them and try to move forward together go ahead Adam I just wanted to really thank Sarah Don for outreaching a hand I think that's one of the most important things that we can do in a situation like this is is try to help each other learn because absolutely none of us up here are perfect and we all have a lot of learning to do and I've really come to understand that uh even in the short time I've been here and uh it's also really important that none of us be dismissive of one another just because as soon as you're dismissive and you put you know someone's thoughts down um that's that's really really not going to

[93:00] help any situation no matter what you're in it doesn't matter what side you're on um you know always try to be willing and open to learn with one another um I think that's one of the most important aspects of all of this and uh I'm aware that my experiences are very different than a lot of other people's and I think everyone needs to recognize that so um always be open always you know try to lend a hand before you do anything else that I think is going to be our best path forward here thank you anyone else I'm G to call them Junie oh sorry Junie thank you so much this is a very difficult conversation to have right I think today I'm the only black woman in the room so it's not an easy conversation to have and I was very afraid to not afraid but just cautious because of course I didn't as my colleague I didn't want to come across as dismissive or as rude but I wanted to make a point to some of the things that

[94:00] I've heard here today you mention everyone is racist um I don't believe that I'm racist do I have opportunities for growth yes but to call everyone racist is just to say that well we're just all racist but I think you know we have faults but racism it's a structure it's something that we it's systematic it's structural so can someone yes we have preferences we may have some prejudices but to be racist it's something that you have to actively live every day of your life so that's something that I wanted to clear out um so again another thing I wanted to mention as well for me because people have messaged me as well and asked me why are you silent why are you silent why are you so quiet and I think as a black woman just being in this room is part of my advocacy as well so I hope some of the community members who look to me and are very uh who who are inspired or supportive of me to understand that it's going to take me

[95:01] some time to grow into this role and to give me that room to grow but also I understand community members frustration and I came here and I wanted to say as well you know as Elanor wielt would say and I think as well someone here mentioned tonight I think it was Riley manuso who rightly referred um enford it isn't enough to be angry and talk about social justice and Equity we must believe in these values and it isn't enough to believe in them we must work at them I'm eager to work on this council with those who are willing to work at them while it is understandably to be angry but real the real conduit of Injustice is our system that marginalize people each and every day there are nine people on this Council I understand we can be angry about some of the things that were said even if one Council coun is not willing to work on social justice we can still make progress even if two of them were not willing to work on social justice we can still make real

[96:00] progress but I hope that all of us together will come together and work hard at Social Justice and Equity thank you thank you anyone else I have something if no one else wants to go I I want to start off by saying that my journey really began with Mary um Mary and I came on I came on planning board with Mary and then we got on Council together and it has taken me many many conversations with Mary and others to come around to what I'm about to say so when we had the feedback that we got from the community it inspired me to write something down that's kind of how I look at this and I just want to share it um and I wrote it down because I wanted to get it in the right order so here it is throughout US History indigenous black and brown people have frequently been treated terribly genocide slavery stolen land stolen

[97:03] wages rape bigotry and structural institutional racism have unfairly and disproportionately impacted these people in our country not acknowledging that being white and male in America confers advantages often hidden based on appearance and historical standing denies our past as well as current facts and understanding this statement is not intended to condemn white men or white people in America most are people of goodwi but most of us are at different levels in our understanding of issues of racial and gender bias than people of color and women are for the reason that we have not lived the same experiences acknowledging the existence of white privilege by white people does not diminish our worth as human beings nor our accomplishment but acknowledges past and ongoing harms that have

[98:02] occurred to others we must commit to constant and continuous work on racial justice as individuals as a city and as an organization the resolution that will be introduced tonight is another step along that path and I think we'll hear more about the work program that will happen even beyond the resolution so I look forward to doing that work with all of you on Council okay is that good for open comment okay moving on to your consent agenda you have items a through K before you this evening

[99:00] them Lynette do you review them or do you just want us to vote um I don't usually go through one by one okay anybody have comments on the consent agenda I just had one um so uh the item uh G uh was it's about um accessory dwelling units and public RightWay and Rental licenses but when a planning board heard this they had some specific suggestions for different directions to take the ordinance 8372 regarding accessory dwelling unit so I just wanted to um make sure that that's their recommendations are part of our discussion at second reading and uh at CAC yesterday asked the City attorney to be ready with some language that might help support those recommendations if we decided to go in that that direction okay and I the staff Rec what's what we're approving tonight is not what planning board recommended but I'm fine with just passing it tonight and having the discussion at the second reading right perfect Bob let me got a comment

[100:01] about item a and for those of you who've been on Council this is the um motion to approve the city City's um 2020 regional state and federal policy agenda this is basically our lobbying documents a long list of about four dozen positions and um statements and oppositions and whatnot to various things either pending or theoretically could come to the attention of legislators outside of this room in our positions on those ahead of time then they go off and advocate for or against things that are in that policy not knowing that there may be one or two or three or four of us who are not fully behind some of those things and so I'd like to come up with a device so we can do a little straw polling so if there's 40 things on the list by the way I think the list is too long if there's 40 things on the list um our Carl and our lobbyists know you know if there's 36 of them we're all unanimously in favor of that's great they can go in with confidence knowing that we all support them and if there's a few things that some of us don't fully support it probably be helpful for them to know

[101:00] that because the last thing that they want is to be out there lobbying to let's say a state legislature and then have that legislator bump into one of us and we say oh I don't really support that and so I I I'd like to come up with a device where we can communicate to each other and to the community and to our lobbyists what things we unanimously support which things are supported by a majority I'm happy to support the whole majority I'm not suggesting that we should go out there and and have a different alternative for point of view but but but it is a difference between a majority support and unanimous support and I would like to to work on on on getting a way for us to communicate that to our lobbyist so I'm going to vote in favor of this but this is a defect that I think has been in our system for a number of years and let's see if we can fix it this coming year Rachel um I'm looking at 3E the food tax rebate um I don't know if the person who worked on this staff member is here but I wanted to say I really appreciate the attention to person first language ever did that awesome and second I'm just

[102:01] wondering why are we taxing food and will that conversation come up at a later date it seems like I understand we're giving a rebate for it to qualified people but I would St say that not everybody will probably apply for the rebate who is qualified so there's an equity issue there that I don't understand so sorry forever we have taxed food and for a long time we've given the rebate and the rebate was the council's answer to the equity issue if you want to bring up the issue about should we tax food then that would be a work plan item and it will definitely impact the city's budget and there will be a budgetary reductions as a result of that but that again is a policy uh answer for the council so you would want to bring that up with your fellow council members thanks you're welcome and I just have a follow on to that um one of the efforts that's going on through our it

[103:01] Department in coordination with the county is to try and get a One-Stop shopping website so that becomes easier because right now it is very fragmented so there is we're thinking about that as well right and in in fact the city is a leader along with Google to develop the portal into the city offerings with regard to equity issues and other matters um so we're hopeful to bring that forward and this was recommended by the council at a study session last year so we are working very diligently on that effort anyone else on the content agenda just real quickly to tag on to that one um a question for Jane is that something that could be included under the umbrella of how we look at the budget um in the budget project right so you'll be talking about the budget project um next week at the study session and if if that's part of

[104:00] your direction that we look at the food tax and its implications on our budget uh we we definitely can look at that so thank you sure okay anyone else ready for a motion move the consent agenda is this roll call or this is a roll call vote yep would you like to speak to the motion okay it's a roll call vote I've warned Adam we will start with him council member swti yes wallik yes Weaver I Yates I young yes Brocket I friend yes Joseph hi Nagel hi the motion passes unanimously okay you have no callup check-ins this evening so your public hearing um items related to the certification of the 2019 coordinated municipal election need to

[105:01] leave I don't think so historically have we have the candidates recuse themselves Tom no no no I don't think so is that your accet what that the candidates recuse themselves don't recuse themselves no but so so what this is um we'll be convening the general canvasing and election board and that board is comprised of the previously seated council members who were not up for re-election so you can all stay up there but I'll really only be dealing with three of you right now um so I guess the answer is yes Bob you do not vote on this we we recuse but we don't leave that's right okay okay so the council sits as the general canvasing and election board and I as a city clerk serve as a secretary of the board and the designated election official for the city so to begin um may I have a motion for the three of you to convene as the general canvasing and election board for the November 5th 2019 city of Boulder coordinated municipal

[106:03] election some moves you Mary or Mir by the second is that right all in favor three okay motion passes unanimously three of us was sure we're not here we have now I'm going to take Ro for the board um board member Nagel Weaver here young pres excellent thank you so I'm going to administer your group oath just the three of you raise your right hand there's no need to repeat after me but at the end say I do we the undersigned do solemnly swear or affirm that we will perform the duties of the general canvasing and election board for the November 5th 2019 coordinated municipal election held in the city of Boulder County of Boulder state of Colorado according to the law and to the best of my ability I do do

[107:01] thank you so now we will need a um a chairperson for the board um I will take a nomination for that person it is typically the mayor does not need to be but okay okay by acclamation then mayor weev Weaver will serve as the board chair so can you go the second page I've put the election returns um up here and I've passed them out for you as well I'm going to save time and not read through everything but generally um the six candidates that were elected to council were Bob Yates for a four-year term juny Joseph for a four-year term Rachel friend for a four-year term Adam swle for a two-year term mark wallik for a two-year term you'll see the other candidate and Aaron Brock you're on my list I just term trying to get rid of me there will you take a foure term so those are the six and then the other um votes received you can see up

[108:00] on the slide and they're also in your materials um next um your ballot measures you had three of them um ballot issue 2G a tax on Tobacco vaping products that um item passed ballot issue 2 H sales and use tax extension passed and ballot issue 2 I middle income housing program passed so I'm going to present the following documents to you I have a certificate of the public notice of the November 5th 2019 election a certificate of the approved ballot and a certified statement of the election results and official summary of votes so these official results as well as all historical information um can be found on the Boulder County elections website so now we have a public hearing chair Weaver if you will open the public hearing sure um let's open the public hearing do we have anyone who would like to testify to the election results I have no one signed up okay

[109:00] seeing none close the public hearing okay so could I have a motion to approve the election returns for the city of Boulder 2019 coordinated municipal election held on November 5th 2019 and to adjourn from the general canvasing and election board and reconvene as the boulders city council second all in favor okay motion passes unanimously so I'm going to pass the documents around for your review and the open certificate for your signatures what a favor thank you very much the three of you and congratulations to the rest of you to our regular business um under Matters from the city manager we have an update on Citywide special events so presenting on this matter

[110:00] excuse me is Mike Eubank who is our special events coordinator and is very knowledgeable in this area so Mike take it away Jane so um thanks for um the opportunity to present and some share some information about special events I think we do this at least once a year year and if there's something that comes up we like to kind of get in front of you guys uh ahead of time to let you know what is actually in the queue and what's happening for next year so you're not surprised the memo does go through uh number of events that uh transpired in 2019 and also identifies a few events that actually will be new or changing in 2020 so you're actually up to date and aware um I would like to acknowledge uh especially for the new council members that um this is not an approval um we're actually um seeking your um uh consideration for us to move forward with these events that actually are uh being applied for 2020 they will go

[111:02] through the normal review process and through the same process we do for all our special events we're just making sure that you're aware in advance and also making sure that if you have concerns before we get to probable we situation right now we're actually possible and so we want to make sure that before we uh start negotiations make arrangements uh identify partners and move forward we're not uh pinned in a situation where we can't get out of it and we want to make sure that you're aware of and we're moving in the right direction okay um I would like to I just want to make sure I understood what you just said it's kind of a process question so um I understand we're not making any decisions tonight um but by the same token you're looking to us to Signal whether we're enthusiastic about these two new U proposals because if we're not you'd like kind of like to know that now yes right um so let's say we say sure go ahead and negotiate and work out the details are these coming back to us or is this kind of the last time we're seen them so we if we if we have some issues or concerns or things

[112:00] that we want to make sure you um uh get taken care of we should Express those tonight you you could um the idea would be that we would update you on the status for for 2020 but um it would not come back for formal approval okay so we should put it all on the table correct and maybe I can answer some of those questions in advance okay great thanks course Bob another alternative is to say I want to see this back before you I'll leave that up to council members if they want to see this back that's fun I'm not I wasn't asking for that it's just a process question I wanted to understand if it was if it was intended to come back and it sounds like the answer is no unless Council directs it correct okay correct um but before I get started I would like to acknowledge um the tremendous special event team we have with staff um we have a uh about 13 departments and about 30 people within those departments that work diligently to represent uh the city Boulder extremely well uh in special events a lot of these people with police and fire and Planning Development and risk management and um uh the attorney's

[113:01] office uh across the board um have other jobs and the other U responsibilities in the city and so they I think I'm one of the only persons in the city of Boulder that actually is uh uh tiered to special events and so this team does a phenomenal job to make sure that we button and close every deal that protects the city that protects um our community and protects Council as well as staff so um we just want to make sure that um that team um is is the uh the person that carries a lot of information and weight and review before we even get to a permit that we assign so I just want to make sure that you're aware of that um I don't know if uh you had a chance to look over the 2019 some of those are kind of OB obvious and uh and we wanted to make sure that we identified a a laundry list of of different events that we do pro provide throughout the city that by no means is all of them but I just pulled the ones

[114:01] that we did do and I did put uh information related to um some of the cost that the city provided from our special event uh office and the city managers it does not include grants and other kind of um um funds or or uh um collaborations with the CVB and things like that that's just direct funds from the city manager's office related to special events and so for a city we don't spend a lot of money on special events and I think that's the our MO is not to actually facilitate that and do that but the ones that we do spend money on are very high quality and provide a good benefit to the city and also diversity in the city as well so if there's no questions on 2019 events and I'm not trying to rush you I do have a question we had the consultation with the um Indian tribes and I didn't know if that was something that we wanted to include here or is it done separately CU it it seems calling out okay yeah um it it's a collaboration between many

[115:01] departments but in particular open space in the city manager's office and so you approved in the budget for 2020 you've approved those dollars already from both the city manager's office and open space and that's underway so it's separate from the work that Mike does thanks so we're good um if I could go ahead and move to the 2020 events there's no other uh issues on that um I will make one comment on the 2018 I'm sorry um we did lose our full Iron Man and uh and I just wanted to clarify that that wasn't by any means um a issue related to the city I think that sometimes if you look at our historical pattern on events at large uh there's a kind of a seasonal kind of like um uh opportunity for events and they kind of run their season and uh we did a great job with the full and facilitated that uh for five full years but we still have a great relationship with Iron Man and

[116:01] still do the half on a consistent basis and that one is still sold out so just overall our event season kind of fluctuates kind of high and low uh throughout the years but it stays pretty consistent at 150 range and I think has a lot to do with just the fact that we have a certain amount of venues that are available and so doesn't tend to actually go tremendously high or tremendously low because as soon as someone backs out we have a great opportunity to be very selective and very conservative to pick the right person to come in and facilitate that that open opportunity okay uh so for 2020 events uh we're really excited to actually have a Mike hang on you got a question yes um I'm a little confused as to the funding that will or will not be provided for the jaur uh literature Festival uh sure what what is happening in 2020 it's a zero cash so in the past Council has Approved Cash which we have

[117:00] not done for any other event um most of our funding or support for special event has actually been through in kind and so the definition of in kind for the way the city actually sees that is that we will actually offset the cost of police services with a transfer from the from the City manager's office to police services so that um event does not have to pay for it so that in kind is IR marked for jaipore next year but we do not have a cash arrangement with jaipore for next year okay did that answer your question yes in the past the event has come directly to the city council and required and asked for money and so initially during that initial few years of that startup of the uh event um city council had agreed to give them cash and I think we even did a matching fund two years ago and uh this year we even reduced that um that cost from 20,000 of

[118:01] matching funds just to 10,000 um across the board just cash directly but we were trying Our Fate to phase that out and just in FYI we did exactly the same thing with inine for Iron Man so we provided a higher startup in kind for Iron Man and after 5 years we went to zero is there any sense that U the change in financing uh will impact the viability of the festival or well any Festival should after five years be somewhat self-sustaining and so I think uh we would get into a situation um and I won't speak for the council for the city would get in a situation where we would actually be um supporting an event that actually is not being um supported by the community by other um uh nonprofits other by other companies by other kind of Partners and I think that's the whole Gest of I was speaking to the longevity of an event sometimes

[119:01] an event does not run as long as it should be but because the the the community or their participation or the vendors or whoever is not supporting that so I think we got to be careful to not for any event and I want to say this directly about J for but for any event should not be in the sustainability um business for any type of uh third party event can I make a comment on that too just since I'm the Council liais on to the convention visitors bureau I'll just share this particular with my new colleagues um the convention visitors bureau um also supports many of these um events that Mike referred to and they all have a similar um uh policy typically if a new event um is either created here in town or comes to town um and and is deemed um worthy of support um the CBB will support it for three years from from year one or year zero through three years and often on a declining basis you

[120:02] know it's not for example Jer is an example of that for example Mark where I think the first year CBB gave 40,000 I think the next year was 20,000 so they'll they'll do that um in in three years is pretty much their their limit and their Rule and with the same philosophy as the city has which is if a if if an organiz kind of can't get up and get its feet under it and get community support or sponsorships or wherever it's source of funding after you know three or four or five years and then maybe there should be an examination about the size or the scope or the community acceptance or whatever and so I just want to make sure folks understand that there are other sources of funding in addition to the city CVB takes a lot of that accommodation tax and turns it back towards these events to support these events in their their nent years absolutely and has nothing to do with the fact that jaipore or any event not doing not a good event it's just that sometimes it has its lifetime or seasonal life time jaur is a really good event by the way um so if there's any

[121:02] other questions we'll move to 2020 and I'd like to spend a few minutes on these new events that are coming down the pipe um internally we have an opportunity to co-host the Beyond pesticides I'm not sure how familiar everyone's aware of our planning department and their work with um with Beyond PES Ides and be Boulder uh scenarios but this is an opportunity for this annual uh conference or Forum to come to Boulder it normally um host about 300 people to the conference we're thinking that because of the um the Dynamics of Boulder we'll have close to five or 600 people attending we've got a lot of participation and support from the library and we're going to actually kind of mirror what the jaipore festival did at the library and host that at the library um so we have uh significant staff and departments working internally for that and we actually look forward to actually being a uh host City for uh for that event next year um for 2020 uh we also have and I'm

[122:03] I'm sure everyone kind of read through the the the detail explanation but last year 2020 Colorado classic um or this year they came to us about a um a stage race for uh for August and because of a number of different is issues we had and our we partner really closely with Boulder County on all of our special events that impact them or or directly uh involve their streets and and roadways and so um I listed a few of those kind of impacts and we even had a couple of uh um calls from the office and also from the governor himself about um wanting us to participate but we basically went back to the scenario that it's not possible uh we did not want to overly impact our our residences our businesses our streets and other things that were going on through freshman move in so we actually um softly declined but it said we would be interested in looking that for 2020 um they were eager to reapply for 2020 uh we did go out and

[123:00] look at the race um in Golden um it's a really successful race uh I don't know if anyone else uh participated or attended but actually is a good fit for Boulder uh I think any type of cycling running event is one of those things that if you look at um what we do and what our businesses do on an annual basis um it definitely mirrrors that that situation again this is a situation where now it is possible we've they went back and selected dates that were not during freshman move in they actually worked with us on um potential routes and I just want to be really clear that none of the routes that we talked about included Flag Staff that is not what we've talked about that is not on the table that has not been offered that has not been asked for um there's no expectation there is no um uh indication that Flagstaff is in the mix for 2020 um that's really about saying no we're not going to doing Flag Staff so I don't know how best to kind of Define that um but again we have not gone into deep

[124:00] negotiations with that we have talked to um Boulder County and we feel like we can come up with a route that heads out north and and identify something that will be less impactful but again we've made no promises or or commitments yet we wanted to make sure before we get into negotiations were actually uh had the the blessing of uh Council to move forward with this event Mike would it be helpful for you if we simply told you yeah um no no Flag Staff no open space and then and then when you go to negotiation you say Hey listen I'd love to give that but Council said no it's not even an option so they know that and they and it's not going to work for them they they don't need a time trial they need something that's that's a loop for for second so so we can we can say that here and that's fine uh forgive me you this comes from an email that was sent to me on on this project um suggesting that in a prior draft of an agreement there was some kind of non-disparagement uh Clause that

[125:00] would have prevented members of council or city employees from commenting on the race so um I Mike I can help with that if you my only comment on that would be I just assume that will be gone so that was a 2012 agreement that was negotiated by a bunch of other cities that we kind of signed on to at the last minute and so that's not something that we consider an agreement between the city and we generally avoid that sort of thing it will go away then I hope so okay I mean we as as Micah said we haven't even started negotiating yet and I don't you remember that incident I do I remember that incident and that was right before I came on and that's the reason why I'm actually so it's my fault not me members of council do like to talk really not anyone's fault it was just one of those things that I think we as a community have learned a lot of best practices and even other communities that are hosting this event have also learned best practices what we did in 2012 um is significantly different than what we do

[126:01] in 2019 and 2020 I can tell you right now that that any event that we do not just this event any event that we do is um is Thoroughly run through the city attorney's office based upon current best practices not something that someone's going to actually um give us as a deal and say let's sign this because so we've learned a lot in in that time and we've restructured a lot in our time our our process for special event review and approval is night and day from from five or six years ago okay thank you you bet any other comments about um the bike race okay is this where we since this is we're not really voting right now right so I think what we'll do is there is a motion at the end so we can if that's if that works out we'll I'll bring up my concern at that point okay um the other event is the

[127:01] boulderthon so we've had a number of um marathons in the city of Boulder uh for the past 10 plus years and um uh Phil came to us uh last year and requested to do a new marathon in the city limits of Boulder and I think identified some of the issues we actually brought up with Phil uh last year um and declined that as well and it was one of those things where it was not possible um we also have a number of current marathons that are already in place and the last thing we need to do is start adding more and more impact to the city Boulder it has nothing to do with competition for event to events if they if people want to do 10 Beerfest then we'll do 10 Beerfest if the calendar and the venues can support that and thankfully it all works out to where we're not having 20 10ks or 10 you know Beer Fest it really is a wonderful um ballet and dance that we do with a lot

[128:00] of event producers and they are aware of what that is so um long story short uh we declined but we gave um him feedback specific feedback again with the review team to say if this was something that we could do it would have to reach these benchmarks Phil came back to us with meeting every single Benchmark and I think the unique situation that we actually have for this event is that Phil's local and he believes in the community um I won't speak for him personally but these are the types of event that a community this small would love to have the reason Boulder Boulder works so well is that I can call Boulder Boulder anytime anywhere and we can actually work it out and we get it worked out and um we would prefer preer to have someone that lives works and runs in our community to host an event versus someone that comes in for Chicago or from Austin Texas or Seattle

[129:00] wonderful places but does not know our community and not does not know our businesses so when someone locally closes a Street then they actually kind of own that differently than someone from out of town so um this so the unique thing that Phil did though is that he did not set a new event in the calendar he bought an existing Marathon so this is not a new event the only change besides the new ownership is the fact that this event actually allows or is requesting the Finish Line to be inside the city limits of Boulder so Boulder Boulder is the only one the only large event that actually starts and finishes in Boulder the reason we would not do and that's just part of the things we declined last year is we wouldn't do a start finish and Boulder ER is that we would have too many congested streets or um ride of ways we're starting we're proposing to start this um at the reservoir and run through

[130:00] Boulder County and once we hit Boulder our capacity is going to be thinner just like the uh finish line for the Iron Man so that um we can actually manipulate and um successfully uh manage those Runners coming inside the city limits of Boulder on our ways so we feel like that's a possibility again we have not promised uh fill anything we wanted to make sure that this um situation work for you guys as well but the unique thing about what we're trying to facilitate is that um we would use a multi-use pass which we treat as transportation and I know um that if Bill was still here he would actually step up and and confirm this but but those are Transportation corridors as well we treat those like streets we want to make sure that we provide um those rways uh as best as possible so to use those for a timed event is very unique what we did lose last year or sorry this year for next

[131:00] year is our Iron Man event that actually finishes downtown so we're not adding any new um competitive events on the rideway we're basically replacing it with another event that actually would have similar or probably smaller impacts so Mike you have a question ER yeah mik a question about that when you say use the multi-use paths does that just mean that there are Runners on them or are the multi-use paths closed we rarely close them so the intent would be to actually facilitate a route that would actually allow oneway traffic on the multi-use path with the runners okay great thank you y could you be um specific um mik well maybe you don't know but if you do know where would they come into the city what which paths are we talking about we haven't we haven't confirmed anything yet but the idea would be that they would come in um near um the um the Boulder Creek path um off of Valmont okay um and don't don't kind of hold me

[132:01] to this but we're trying to kind of find a way with County to make sure that their route would actually end up coming in on Valmont and we would hop them into the um the the uh Creek path um so they come around near stazio and then go south and then pick up the path from they they go near stazio but actually come in under um um was it old Pearl Street um and head up to um fulam and then take fulam down to Pearl so we would have some streets and we'd finish on Pearl is is the is the proposal thanks y thanks any other questions is at the end of your presentation um that's the end I'm happy to answer any questions and if there's an event that you guys did see or hear about um that I did not include in that list I'm happy to talk about that for 2019 or if there's any other kind of issues um that you'd like to see as well okay go ahead Adam well I actually I have a just a question just a general

[133:02] question um you mentioned the team that um is throughout the city the team members that that look review the events and when you're looking at an event um how far reaching is your lookout for other events that might be happening so for example there's um a conference that's related to um that perhaps Google put on and it's bringing in a few hundred people um would your radar detect something like that it would we do partner very closely with CU so we know their calendar we partner very closely with the county so we know their calendar um we also do our best to kind of uh partner and collaborate with uh C do um we do have um a contact with the CBB and we will kind of like understand what the CBB hears and kind of sees as

[134:01] well um so we do our best to kind of facilitate that our focus is on public events and so uh we try not to dig too deep on what Google does or what wedding's going on um but we do our best to kind of like understand what the threshold is for hotels and other kind of like General impacts so there's always the possibility that um there could be some sort of a conflict and with absolutely yes just just wanted to clarify that y thank you Adam sure so this is more process I guess than anything but my biggest concern is the blank check approach hasn't necessarily worked out for us in a lot of instances so this being the only time that we get to check in on this it's a bit of a concern for me uh just because you know other things come up as they frequently do in this town and this being our one sign off I have a concern about that so if I understand right the motion

[135:01] language requested is for two particular races only correct yeah it's on page 461 of the packet page 10 of the item and is there a chance to Adam's point that these numbers could be higher because you call out 25 000 and 10,000 in the first event Colorado classic um what about the second event the second event is zero what's that is zero when I say blank check approach I also mean the route not being decided all the things that are undetermined at this point so I I apologize in advance because I don't want it to actually sound like um I don't want your input and opinion but in our Pro process um we take significant um time and attention with police with fire with County with those 13 departments to make sure that what we

[136:01] are doing in every step of the way is to minimize impact and when we do minimize impact we do actually also when there is impact happening we do also provide notifications and advanced things so I don't want to be really cautious to get into the weeds of having any Council be responsible for individual approvals um and I'm happy to do that that's where you want to go but I just feel like that's uh kind of a hole that we may not want to kind of get after um and again we we we take it seriously and we meet and we facilitate this um on a very extended period of time where we spend months we spend o we spend the entire year with Boulder Boulder um as soon as Boulder Boulders done we start on 2020 and we've already actually talked about tweaked that so so we we do look at those items we we actually do make mistakes every once in a while and that's that's true but I just want to be

[137:00] very cautious not to actually say now we're actually going to get in a situation where every event's going to have to come in through an approval and a route and it puts you guys in a situation where uh now every route is screw scrutinized right so the one thing that I'm going to add is what it sounds like to me is the concern is the uh what will the route be for the bicycle race yeah so if we get into a situation in which we think that route is controversial in any way we will bring this back to city council perfect and and that's why this is here to begin with because we didn't want to actually create any controversy so and I didn't want to say that you don't do an excellent job I've seen all the signage I see the emails for special events that part's perfect it's just I don't know where it's going to be you know understand completely understand Mark yeah I share Adam's concerns I don't want to micromanage this I don't want to be surprised um so if there are a couple of key points that

[138:00] are worth letting us know where things are I think that could be helpful and if I could clarify um any race that we've done um really has no racing inside the city limits of Boulder so by I should clarify that bike races specifically bould bike races specifically have started in Boulder but they have a lead out and so that race is not actually triggered until they actually hit the timing mat and so we've had the oat route race we've had the Iron Man race we have all those different things and they we don't race in situations that are not safe we create a timing mat in advance of those areas that we know that are going to be critical or controversial and that it's a it's a neutral zone right what I Mike what I'm hearing is that the council is very supportive of both of these races however in particular with regard to the bike race they would like us to return it might just be an information

[139:02] packet item or a memo with a statement about where the route is going to be and we'll we will give you that we'll tell you you've got the memo and if there are objections you can bring that up and if we don't hear objections I'll sign the contract but we'll give you a week to make objections to the route so that is a commitment that I make to you and you can pass these Mo motions subject to the city manager's commitment to provide notice of where the route is for the bike race just one quick question I I assume you get massive quantities of liability insurance from from these guys I wouldn't want any claims coming back to us okay our standard contract reest reques insurance and we actually require a certificate before we sign it okay any other discussion questions so I think Jane my my interpretation is that we probably only need a map and a

[140:02] short description of the safety things that you're talking about like the lead out for the biking race and stuff like that so A two or three page IP was probably enough to give us the information we need and if we want more we can just follow up absolutely okay great thank you and I only know the address of Bobby y's house that's going by so we do need to pass this motion subject to the commitment of the city manager yep do I hear a motion Samy should open public okay this wasn't this is a matter yeah under matters motions under matters if you going to heing we us to do at the end but you do it before now I just have a a protocol question um I'm not super interested in in micromanaging the race route so do I object or or I guess I don't know how to weigh in on that well if we get an IP it's going to be a pretty small thing um and I mean I thought the way Jane set it

[141:00] up was hopefully light staff work right absolutely right so I I probably shouldn't say this but the protocol would be because several members of council are asking for a very small thing you would just say you vote yes thank okay is there a motion so moved okay so and again oh Public public hearing I apologize good okay thank you appreciate it okay do we have anyone signed up for public hearing okay seeing no interest close the public hearing so moved Mark had the second Mark had the second so we have a motion and a second do you want to speak to it no I Mike do a great job of B balancing these things and and I know that they're members of the community who feel sometimes we have too many events and I know that you you you struggle for diversity of events and and and and pay attention to the quantity and pay attention to the calendar and work closely with the CVB

[142:01] on getting support from them so I just really appreciate everything you do and I think um we get some high quality events I'm also happy to see that we're getting some new events here I mean the women women's Pro cycling I think I think is be fantastic the the governor obviously nudged us to approve that um and and this new Marathon sounds like it's going to be great as well so thanks for bringing new events to us and um changing it out from from some of the old stuff that we had so um but just a a great um a great portfolio thank you very much Mark do you want to speak at all you were the second anybody else can I just clarify that it's a team effort so I I'll take that but it I'll take it with the team approach appreci although since we've had Mike on board things have been great I mean I mean those of us who live through the 2012 controversy he we haven't had one since and I think it do a lot to Mike's Hard Work yeah no false modesty great job is this show hands okay all in favor

[143:02] of the motion any opposed okay janous thank you very much your next item is a 2020 midterm update on the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan it's exciting time so an item that we've all been waiting for is midterm update to the 2020 2020 midterm update and I'll turn it over to Chris mjuk to start us off before you go didn't we just pass the comp I'm pretty sure that's why we're all chuckling is it always feels like we just finished a comp plan update and we're starting another one so I'm Chris mchu inim planning director assistant city manager and uh we are happy to be here to kick off the 2020 midterm update despite that it feels like we just finished the last comp plan update as Gan will talk about in a second we did change the way we do the update cycle so um we did actually finish the last

[144:01] update back in 2017 so it actually has been a few years um uh since since we finished the last update but um it's one of the great things about the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan and Gan again I'll talk about um the cooperation that we have on the comprehensive plan but it's not a document that sits on the Shelf um in many communities um the comprehensive plan is not a strong policy guiding document here in Boulder it's a really strong Community policy document that we update on a regular basis it's a living breathing document and so we're we're excited to continue that uh that Legacy so with that I'll turn it over to um senior planner genan gatsa great thank you Chris um thank you members of council I'm just going to do a very brief presentation that's really specifically around the parameters for for the midterm update um and our proposed uh scope and schedule to complete the update in 2020 and I would like to welcome the new council members to the uh care and um role in upholding

[145:00] our our Boulder Valley comprehensive plan if you have not yet received one please let us know and we would be happy to get you your very own comp plan all right carry them with you at all times local Bible very good good um so as as Chris said we the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan has a very rich history um dating back almost 40 years so um in 2020 it will be 40 years since the first um adoption of the city and county Boulder Valley comprehensive plan and as um we've had a number of updates through the years we take our plan very seriously at the last major update we changed the schedule um so that we did the the Deep dive the major updates every 10 years and the midterm updates um in the in the in between years um with the purposes of the midterm update to be um pretty small in scope and as Chris mentioned um we have

[146:01] this very unique intergo intergovernmental agreement that adopts the plan um and establishes that commitment by the city and county um to both to regulate based on these shared values of the comp plan it also spells out the agreements for the process um that we follow to update the plan so as I mentioned the major update is the time for the Deep dive into policy issues um and the midterm update is really about keeping that scope focused on um things that have been adopted keeping our house in order um processes where we have um made those changes and made those decisions already it's also that time where we um um take a look at we open for the public application process and then we also take a look at the action plan to make sure that we're making progress on our implementation pieces can can I interrupt and ask a quick question um I know that there used to be

[147:01] multiple igas in the county so we have ours with the county and that's been around a long time and then didn't Erie and some of the Eastern cities have igas as well I believe that's correct with the super AG yeah there's uh a bit of a history of um different cities a had igas with the county related to each of their comprehensive plans um and then I think it was 2005 but I might have my date wrong that um the county and all of the municipalities minus one within the county came together and adopted what is commonly known as the super IGA which is basically it EST establishes um the growth areas for every community in the county there was an opt out um after 10 years there are two communities I and Lafayette that have opted out of that super IG um the rest of the communities including Boulder are still in the super IGA um I think it comes up for Renewal if I remember right in 2025 um and so that's when there would

[148:01] be a discussion about um about the super IG but there is kind of that overall the ideas every Community within the county has kind of agreed where they're going to grow um how far they're going to grow so that um we don't have um annexation Wars um between uh neighboring communities and is Longmont still part of that correct Longmont is still a part right thank you okay so the plan specifies all the different pieces that can be updated um during the midterm update um and a number of these will have uh some small tweaks to reflect changes that have been made since the since in just the past two years since we've adopted them in the last update as regarding the scope for the midterm midterm update in keeping with the purposes that are laid out in the plan the staff has um identified a preliminary inventory of some small things that have been addressed so um again taking a look at the action plan

[149:00] and what we've accomplished in the last couple of years and some of the things that will need to be updated within the within the comprehensive plan the sub commmunity and area planning revisions the the Alpine bosam area plan um some of the master plan summaries for the transportation master plan and open B and Mountain Parks master plan and we may see some policy changes around climate mobilization we know that there has been some interest raised in the area 3 planning Reserve um to consider a process for expansion of the area 3 planning Reserve so this is a major major decision for the city and um it would take a very significant work effort um the first step is to complete the Baseline Urban Services study and then work to identify unmet needs that are within the current service area and then the commencement of an expansion plan so what our what what staff is what we what we recommend is if there is continued interest in this that we explore it over the next couple of years

[150:00] um initiate that Baseline Urban Services study um to be able to tee this up and be ready for a consideration of this at the major update just have a question on that process question Jean um if that's if that was the will of council and I get the fact that it's a two or threee mhm process and you laid it out in the memo about what what each part would take would it be your desire to have the um that wrapped up that is you know move it to area two potential annexation you know whatever wrap up means in parallel with the um 2025 update or does that does that kind of work in a separate um path of its own that doesn't really tie in directly to the comp plan I think it does but I think what we're anticipating is that the first couple of steps so the the big effort about Urban Services study and and what it would take to actually serve the area and then the finding of unmet needs could be worked on Chris you can help me with this um prior to that that

[151:01] update but then the actual expansion plan would be part of the major update yeah that's what we always anticipated is that if um it with the revised process you'd have the Baseline Urban Services study done that open the door to considering a service area expansion during a comp plan update either a midterm or major update if the decision is hey we really want to look at a service area expansion that really would become kind of the sole focus of the comp plan update for that cycle um because it's such a big thing to consider expanding our growth boundary um and so that's what we would anticipate there would still be the land use map updates because it's important to provide that opportunity but then that would really be the focus of the update and and would the just follow question um the if some of the preliminary work was was launched now now being like 2020 or 2021 and then a subsequent Council in 2023 or 2024 said oh you know it's going too fast we're not ready for it in

[152:02] 2025 would some of that work how how time sensitive is that work is some of that work I get the fact if it goes a generation it's going to become stale but it would that work could that work be rolled forward the early work be rolled forward two or three or four years and so if if we launched it now and I get the fact it's a lot of work I'm not trying to be dismissable on the amount of the work but that could be put on the Shelf if subsequently um it's not um hardwired into the 2025 plan it is we envision that the Baseline Urban Services study is something that is it's very much looking at the services the city provides fire police Parks and Recreation Transportation Etc utilities um that's an analysis of if we were to expand the city um do we have the ability to provide those Services adequately still and so that analysis that's pretty technical analysis so it has a pretty good shelf life we anticipate that that you could do that study and then say you did that in the next couple years you get to 2025 not

[153:00] exactly the right time it's still be very much valid to consider in 2030 or 2035 or going forward Aaron so one more press this question on that to that Baseline Urban Services study is that need to be kicked off during something like a mid term update or is that sort of something you could do kind of whenever that's something that we can um add to the work plan at some point when you're balancing the rest of the needs for the work plan okay so service expansion major update but Services study could be kicked off when Council felt like it was appropriate yeah the idea behind creating that Urban Services study was the first step of a service era expansion is a really big one and we didn't re we weren't very informed to be able to take that first step if we ever wanted to take it and so this breaks that first step down into two pieces so we learn the technical information once we accept that study then it opens the door to a service area expansion during any comp plan major or midterm update thank you so I have a followup as well and this is just a minor question but

[154:01] talking about Parks um don't we own some land uh in the the expansion area the area 3 expansion area that was bought long ago and set aside four Parks we do we have some that was um is Parks and Recreation owned land up there so we've already done a little bit of work in preparation I mean it was long-term preparation but we've kind of laid out a few of the the pieces on the board yeah the planning Reserve is a total is about 500 Acres 200 of that is owned by the city for a future Regional parkite it was bought with the 97 um Parks 0.25 Cent sales tax um for future Park sites that's what we also bought Val park with um so that is something that's in the mix for the future um to consider we haven't done any planning with it because it's outside the city's growth boundary and um we want to focus on finishing Valmont um but that's something that the city has in its

[155:00] ownership great Mary so Chris um a service area expansion if it were after the the the urban Services study it would not preclude the contiguity requirements is that correct that's correct it would not what what we would need to do is if we were to consider a service a expansion um for all or part of the planning Reserve um you would do that planning effort similar to a subcommunity or area planning effort is essentially what it would be at the end of that would then be a plan for how you would expand the city boundary you would still need to then meet all of the annexation requirements in state law one of which is conu it so we couldn't expand the city boundary and start at the you know the very Northern edge of the planning Reserve that isn't currently connected to any City Limits so we would still need to start from the existing City Limits yeah because as I recall the the

[156:00] way it used to work is the property owners could just come in with a proposal regardless of where it was in correct and when it was in an annexed area yeah when it was in the planning Reserve was created the idea was it's a Pro active decision by the city uh to consider expanding the growth boundary um but the process was set up that it was very reactive that every five years we asked Property Owners to submit their ideas and so it created this very awkward tension and so we fixed that um back in 2015 with the process we have today Rachel thanks thanks I just want to make sure I'm following along right um so what we're talking about is something that we would be looking at in 2025 as a possible expansion um and if we do not do this Baseline Urban Services study we can't look at it in 2025 is that accurate so we're sort of trying to decide whether to leave a door open by doing this work now by authorizing doing the work now not necessarily saying we

[157:01] want to expand just we might want to expand so we want the option correct and sometime between now and 2025 that work thanks okay ready to move on all right with that um so the the comp plan lays out that the our County we work with our our County counterparts to establish the process and schedule um a key part of the midterm update would be to open this public application process that also includes a screening process to make sure that these are these are typically small um land use changes that need to be um things we can evaluate with with current resources um in conjunct um in alignment with our current comprehensive plan and um compatible with adjacent land uses and so we would come back to you um in the uh probably the early part of the second quarter

[158:00] with that screening process from the public application process okay um process and schedule first quarter we would kick things off get things started and as I mentioned back to you um probably in the second early in the second quarter with the screening process and then within the um third third and fourth quarters um depending on the breadth of the changes that are on the table design um do our analysis and design Community engagement processes that um that fit those changes um to be able to come back and um hold public hearings and adopt changes and be complete with the midterm update by the end of 2020 the planning board um we talked with them two weeks ago about the same process and they um were in very much support of keeping our housekeeping items and keeping the scope limited for the midterm update um again similar reaction to you is um that here we are two years after the um last update and so very much in support of keeping um

[159:01] those deep dives into our comprehensive plan policy issues um at the 10year intervals um and then um taking a look at that action plan realizing that you know we have accomplished quite a few things on the on the action plan a lot of the code changes and um started with the area planning and subc Community planning but we do have quite a few things um still to go and want to stay focused um with our resources on those so with that um we would be happy to talk about any questions or comments that you have about the midterm update um and then Adam and Aon what what that chart was really helpful to show what we've and actually made me feel pretty good because we we you have done a lot of work you staff have done a lot of work which is great but it's also nice to see that we actually set out for ourselves a road map about two and a half or three years ago and actually are kind of more or less following it but there's still a lot of things on our to-do list one of the things on our to-do list that you mentioned in passing in in the memo I just could be um wonder if you could

[160:02] drill into a little further is tvap 2 um I guess this is a two-part question you know what would be the ideal timing around that and how how would if at all this tie into a 2020 midterm like chis address that um in terms of the work plan sure I'm sure this is the transit Village part two phase two yeah yeah so Transit Village area plan think 30th Street to Foothills Parkway Pearl Parkway to Valmont is the geographic area phase one was from 30th Street East to the railroad tracks so um the final piece of that area is on the 30 Pearl site which will'll break around uh here this month and so phase two includes there's a a series of properties west of 30th Street um part of which the city is now a property owner for for the new fire station three and then everything from the railroad tracks East to Foothills Parkway so in the plan we've already laid out what the future land use would be but we didn't Implement those land use changes um

[161:01] because that holds back rezonings because we wanted to phase the Redevelopment over time um what we are proposing actually is that we move forward and we break phase two into two pieces and do kind of a phase 2 A or a phase one however you want to phrase it for the properties west of 30th Street um and bring those land use map changes and rezonings forward um probably in the first quarter of next year um that will also help there's a key Transportation connection at Bluff Street that we didn't know what the exact alignment should be um so that's why we pushed it to phase two in the plan we're now the property owner next to that where that Transportation connection should be for our fire station um we have worked out with the adjacent Property Owners hopefully in that will work um so if that is the case we'd like to bring that forward so we can make sure that that Transportation connection occurs um and then talk about the rest of phase two in the future um and um I think a thing to

[162:00] think about and we could talk about in terms of the work plan is do we want to just Implement all of phase two or do we want to step back and make sure that the land uses that we um envisioned back in 2007 are still the land uses that we want in the future in Phase 2 so I think there's a bit of a conversation we might want to have before we just move forward with implementing those we could do that as a part of the comp plan update um or we could make that a work plan item um in the next couple years okay and presumably if you do um recommend breaking that into 2A and 2B I'll call it you'll also share with us the interdependencies or or or maybe there's there's none maybe they're very cleanly and we should have called it phase one phase two phase three but to the extent that there are are um unnatural things we have to do to break that up you'll let us know that along the way we'll let you know and the biggest thing about phase two there's criteria for when we can start phase two in the implementation plan the biggest one is um there are a fair number of infrastructure projects that will be necessary in phase two and we don't have

[163:01] a financing plan for that infrastructure um and that's part of what made phase one successful was that we had a financing plan for it um so we'd want to figure out what that financing plan is um I think we have that for phase 2A so we can bring that info forward than Adam sure uh my major concern is within the timing for the community engagement and the public hearings um Q3 is Summer and back to school Q4 is essentially holidays um and you know those are the times when it's least likely for the public to engage and it's something as important as a mid mid uh sorry what is the proper term midterm midm midterm okay to the Builder value comprehensive plan having proper public engagement within that process I think is super important so my suggestion for this is if we keep the scope small enough could we move that up a little bit into the months where people are a little bit more free and

[164:01] open to engage probably depends on how many applications we get so so really the community engagement would be around those small land use changes or any anything that comes through the the public application process because the rest of the tweaks are things that we've already you've already councils have already adopted or are um you know map changes to reflect annexations that have occurred so things that don't require extensive Community engagement if we do have um really site specific Community engagement we can design those um to address to make sure that folks that are in those nearby adjacent areas um have full opportunity to understand the analysis and and to weigh and we don't you know part of the part of the purpose of this is to make sure that that through that screening process that those aren't like really big changes things that are you know would require a a big a big Community

[165:00] kind of effort so you know depending and we can come back with a proposed schedule to try to make sure that it's really um when we have that screening process to what we think about um what that Community engagement would look like because of course we would want to make sure that we weren't doing this in times that was not really convenient for folks thank you yeah I mean they're really trying for the first time to get an update done in the year that it's named after so so if we keep that re it up we will try to do that right ER so uh Chris I'll pull you back up to talk a little bit more about tvap there was uh good to know you're thinking about doing the the 2A uh on the west side of 30th um so it does seem right in particularly with the um City owned parcel and then there's I know affordable housing Redevelopment that people are interested in over there as well um but in terms of the the other part of phase 2 the Eastern east of the railroad tracks which is a bigger area um so to what extent um so the we might

[166:03] want to consider land use map changes right I think was which was partly to your point you said well we did that a while back is that still kind of what we're thinking about over there so would we need to do that this year or could we say hey let's kick off a process in in that goes into 2021 or are we good to kick something off this year I guess I get in 2020 is that good enough um I think if we were to reopen the land uses in phase two um that is a a somewhat significant work effort sure um and so I think we may have a staff resourcing um trade-off conversation that we would need to make if we wanted to start it this year um but we could do it say kick it off in the end of 2020 or in 2021 um and in the comprehensive plan and the update um section if we adopt an area plan we can Implement land use map changes at the same time we adopt the area plan if we want to we have that

[167:01] Authority through the comp plan got it so it's really more of a work plan question than a get it done during the midterm update yeah we have the ability to still update the land use map in the comprehensive plan outside of an update cycle if it's tied to an area plan great that's good to know and and I hear your point about the um the financing you know that's a pretty big area might need some new streets and things like that uh but there also might be some nearer term things that didn't require larger Investments so anyway I'd like to talk about at the retreat anyway cool anybody else um so I have a question about how you guys thought about the suggestion from the planning board to do an area plan for dag on a plaza or to consider one I think that was just because that was one of the things that was on the list of potential upcoming um area plans the one of the comments was perhaps we should um prioritize that and I think that's a question that will come within

[168:00] our work planning discussions okay so so there's three major possibilities that we need to balance then one is planning reserve one is tat Phase 2 and whatever that looks like and one is a potential area plan for diagonal Plaza okay anyone else questions so now feedback um if folks have feedback rather than questions we can get started you like it yep y Adam when we were talking about the um expansion North Boulder so do we have to actually agree to do that tonight no not that night so I guess the way I would anticipate this moving forward is we will have a a retreat work plan discussion that's going to wrap all this together and we're going to have to make some prioritization decisions it may be too much to do all of these in a single

[169:01] year or even in two years but we could go ahead and lay out the plan start on whichever of the ones you know I mean the planning Reserve is really interesting because work we do now or in 2021 heas it up for 2025 and it has to get done and then diagonal Plaza well it's in the opportunity Zone wouldn't we like to have an area plan for it in case some of the owners want to redevelop and so those are all big questions so that's when we will have that discussion about what we can get done or not done and staff will tell us the limitations there um I had one other point that I wanted to bring up I read through the Minneapolis 2040 plan which is essentially their comp plan update and then zoning comes and I think they're adopting zoning right now but they have an interesting plan and it had to get approved by a regional body which

[170:03] was interesting but what I found compelling about how they probably were able to make some of the changes that they made is they not only have the form and the intensity modules which I'm sorry they not only have the use and intensity modules that we have but they have a form module and so that form module dictates what size of buildings and what appearance of buildings can be dictated along what used to be their trolley corridors and that's a little bigger and more intense and along what are smaller residential streets and what are in commercial districts so I don't know if we can get it done here because I know how big of a deal it would be to develop a form module for boulders but I guess I wanted to put out there that I think there's use in and value in that where people can look at a plan and see not only intensity and use but they can also see what the buildings might look like Mary do you want to follow up well

[171:02] I guess I a question along those lines would be wouldn't that be something that would be occurring as we move through the subcommunity plans yeah no I mean that's a great idea um I just wanted to get staff thinking about you know is a form module does it have to be a sub community plan based thing or if we have similar zoning districts you know around the city we could have a conversation saying our rl1 has this um form because I believe that's what it is in Minneapolis yeah I think it's a really interesting thing to think about because that's what we hear from neighborhoods a lot right is um well what can happen in my neighborhood and that's really the power of subc commmunity planning is that we get into a smaller geographic area of the community and talk about what do we want the future of that area to be those are the great conversations we're having in East Boulder right now with the East Boulder subcommunity plan

[172:01] um we have in our zoning code right now it's built in a module system um with um for with use form and bulk and intensity in our form and bulk regulations when you couple what are what we all refer to is the compatible development regulations along with our solar regulations it makes it really really really hard to essentially anticipate what the form of a building will be um for any Geographic part of town because it's so site specific um where we have a bit of an advantage is in Boulder Junction with a form based code it gets a little more prescriptive um in those areas um so I think it'd be interesting to explore what are the different tools in the toolbx to help paint that picture of what can buildings look like in my part of town or in that part of town uh and so I think that's something we could explore further so very much like what you did at Alpine balam where you had

[173:00] different prototypes that are the kinds of buildings that could go in there so I wasn't being real specific about this is exactly what you get or that's exactly what you'll get but that these are an array of building types that you might see yeah and so in Minneapolis the duplexes look a lot like single family homes in the residential neighborhoods and the triplexes which they allowed so I just thought I would put that out there since we're talking about about it okay any other feedback great thank you guys thank you very much if we get it done in 2020 we all be psyched you just you just cursed it all right so so I think this moves us into discussing the resolution and so I had a conversation

[174:01] with Mary earlier today and I thought it might be interesting to have this resolution put in context of the bigger body of work that's going on um because this is only one piece of a plan that seems to be coming together Mary do you want to talk about that yeah so this is actually um one of the deliverables that is a result of the gar um work that's going on so the the first one um is this resolution and um and the second one is the racial Equity plan which of which there is a draft and for the racial Equity plan um there's actually a working group that's been getting um it was seven people it's down to six uh one person had a family emergency and and needed to drop out but um they have been

[175:02] um thinking about how that engagement will happen for the draft plan and um they met about this the particular resolution and um in a conference call with um Amy and um Amy Kane and with Sarah Huntley this afternoon they had met with the working group last night and the working group had said um recommended that we go ahead and pass this resolution because the the community has given already a lot of input which consists of um oh the the the the testimony um that happened in 2018 um in front of the human relations commission um there was the the March 1st um public hearing that we had as a result of the Zade Atkinson um

[176:02] event um there was the the report that we received from the just transition collaborative regarding um climate action and there was also um the one on ones that that um we've met with with organizations that wanted to provide input so there's been a lot of input and this working group in particular was pointing that out and saying let's just get on with it we don't want to have to provide more feedback and put community members especially community members that um that have to find a lot of courage to come and speak for it so um so that that I think we're going to be receiving a note from the working group making that recommendation we got a note from one person yes we did I saw that but I think collectively they're going to send um a

[177:00] note to us um so with respect to the so the resolution is part of this work so it was already happening and it was just um something that was um moved up in the time frame the the racial Equity plan is planed to have a really robust Community engagement so that we make sure that we're not missing anything um make sure that that it captures all the input that we hear that um no important elements are missing or that um and and also how we prioritize the work um and that engagement is going to occur sometime in the first and or second quarter of 2020 so it's coming right up um that's pretty much um the work that's been going on um in

[178:02] in the um the guiding Coalition group um that's been meeting for about a year and a half which includes um Jane's office and several directors Department directors and two council members of which I am one um had been talking about how to have a community conversation um and I don't and Jane correct me if I'm wrong we haven't really landed on anything in terms of the community conversation other than input around the racial Equity plan so um that's kind of a summary of what has been going on good thank you for that um so quick question I was just thinking of the fact that you're the only one on the committee at the moment do we have the guiding Coalition on this list I don't think it's on there but it should be I think we should add we should had one

[179:00] more council member to that okay um so another conversation had around this resolution is it reminds me a little of when we did the sanctuary City resolution and it gave people the opportunity who wanted to to talk about their experiences and what they felt and so we had originally at CAC yesterday scheduled a hearing a public hearing on this January 27th and that's I had forgotten it was that long until I I spoke with Mary so I looked at the um schedule for the 17th of December and it sure seems like we could put a public hearing there because there's a fair bit of cut and dried kind of work we're going to be looking at building codes and intersection codes and things of that nature so I just want to put out there that if if we choose to let the community read this for two weeks we can have a public hearing and have them come

[180:01] and do input I I see the only other process option as moving this onto uh a matter to be adopted and having a vote on it for adoption and so I'm I'm open to the will of council um I thought it might be an opportunity for people to really absorb this it's a complex document but we can go ahead with it if that's the will of council Aaron I I think that sounds like a good plan I I would like to get public input for sure before adopting something um but I'd also like to have it be sooner rather than later uh January late January felt way too late so I definitely support that approach public hearing and then we could uh hopefully adopt something that evening and unless the feedback that we got was just well have you really need to do a lot more work in which case we could put it off a little longer y Rachel I um so I was at the CAC meeting where we talked about it and I didn't remember the 17th having a

[181:00] lot of room on it so what I was thinking was and you're saying it does I guess but I thought maybe the 19th we could have a special meeting as another option Bob's against it I wouldn't be the only one it's not my opinion that it it has a lot of room on it it has some things that I think we could move to later um if we take a look at them I mean the the road design construction standards I kind of feel like we want to move forward on because that's pretty current I'm not sure about the building energy codes being quite as as important I would ask Jane do you do you know or could you find out I could find out more we've wanted to put to get them done this year so that we could move on to the to the next level of things but I'll find out before CAC on Monday and let you know and certainly If This Were this particular resolution were not on January 21st the design code could move there and that's only a month so I I actually don't think that would be a big problem but I'll ask

[182:01] okay okay yeah and there was a a landmarking as well does that have a time limit to it usually they do yeah it's usually 30 days after the landm board okay so yeah we would need to do that then but yeah any more discussion around this um it's out there uh it got posted on hotline today and so it's in the public um sphere I I've had a couple looks at it it looked good to me um we got some feedback from Rachel some of which I think got Incorporated um and Mary of course and I and Aaron have given some feedback as well I just have a question about um so we're going to tee this up sounds like two weeks from now which which is fine and I support that as well I do um worry about making sure that we attract the attention of um people are sometimes overlooked and I and I don't have an idea here I'm just stating the challenge which is to make sure that we get the word out that this is something

[183:00] that we're welcoming Community input on I mean obviously we post it you know we put it on our agenda and so on so forth and people who pay attention to what we do show up and weigh in but I'm I'm more worried about people who aren't always here on a Tuesday night I don't have any good ideas about what to do I don't know if we take out an ad in the newspaper if there are certain communities that we might reach out to right so Sarah Huntley is our engagement manager and Sarah has been working for the last couple of years on making sure that we are reaching under served community so we will use whatever resources Sarah has to make sure that people are aware of it and I think as well as the um the working group that's already been meeting right right okay okay thanks but but I appreciate your bringing that up Rachel so is this our time to comment on 8A on on this resolution yeah it's time to say whatever um you haven't said that you want to get all right just making sure um one thing I wanted to I I wanted

[184:02] to push for whatever training and education we commit to to be mandatory for Council Members if possible and if not to come with a deadline and with notice to public of when council members complete the training so that one of the commenters said I think only five of you went to training or something and I think that members of the public should know whether we participate um so that's one thing and then number two the resolution commits Boulder to quote systematically and deliberately applying a racial Equity lens in our decision- making henceforth um I I personally already am committed to this lens and I support it um but I want to um Echo some of the sent that we heard from public or open comment that it it can't just be lip service so it will mean that racial Equity outcomes in my opinion will beat out preserving the status quo on a whole lot of issues on on a host of issues so I know from experience that we have heavy resistance in the city to change

[185:02] and we have a lot of desire to preserve the character of Boulder from yester year I'm not saying that neighborhood character or desire for having Boulder the same boulder that it was the year that you got here is racist but it does produce racial inequities so when we start looking at things through this lens we are going to probably come to very different outcomes and so this lens if if we're taking these words in this um resolution seriously it's a big ask of the community and Council and a huge commitment I'm in favor of it because until we do the hard work and make real changes race will continue to be a life and death matter so I just wanted to follow up on that um if you take a look under two and the It also says Council acknowledges Community Values will B up against each other and hard work will be needed and I think that is an acknowledgement ahead

[186:02] of time in the document of what you just said I agree with that I just wanted to to verbalize it to the community and especially because we're going to be having um a public Hearing in two weeks I want people to know what we are committing to and that I believe we should commit to the the other thing I will just point out which I think is very interesting um is the first commitment is to the minority issues Coalition statement from 2001 and that's a document that I think a lot of people don't know about it was done post 911 um and it was specifically concerned with um people being harassed for their religious beliefs or threatened um so it does tie in to work Boulder has started before but it advances it quite quite a bit so if we're anybody else yeah just

[187:00] just briefly um just I'm I'm glad that we're taking this up and I did make some comments I think Mo mostly got Incorporated um but I'm very interested in the community's feedback before we move forward I did just did just want to call out that part of the commitment here is to um Council committing to continuing our own education right in the forms of of trainings and and and readings and such and so I I agree with Rachel that we that needs to be an important and to the extent possible mandatory part but just say it's not it's not just words words are important but also actions that we commit to juny yeah thank you I just have one question relating to this um resolution and also to the committee we can talk about that later because we're talking about education and I've mentioned to quite a few of you that you know racial Equity as a committee should not be something that one person or two people undertake that's something that we all should undertake how would that process go how would it be possible to

[188:01] have all council member be part of that meeting because I understand right now Mary young is the person who's leading it but I think we all have to take charge when it comes to diversity raal equity and all these things um but my question is once we've had the open comment or the interaction with the community what do we do with this resolution will it be posted online will it be posted around the different city buildings so how will we memor memorialize this particular document that's a great question and I think that would be a great uh point of discussion after the the public hearing um because typically it would get passed and it would be on our books and so anybody could go find it but it wouldn't be something you know it would promote action to the extent that we kept a group like Garett together but you're right I mean I think that's a great

[189:01] point about having it all around the city as part of reminding us of our commitments including in this chamber any else I just yeah I I wanted to um give thanks to Amy Kane who put a lot of work into this in a very short period of time and um just did an amazing job so thank you Amy and um and then I also wanted to comment on the Preamble in terms of um from my viewpoint of it was very important to include data in there because that's ultimately what we need to look at we need to be looking at outcomes and um I know that Amy has started to um look into what kinds of strategies and

[190:01] outcomes and measurements and things that we're going to be using to um measure our progress basically so um so the data is really important um in the Preamble and and if anybody has suggestions on more data please make them can I just Echo that thanks to Amy Kane um who has done amazing work on this but also on all of these initiatives for for years and very grateful to have her work on these items oh can I say one more thing so there's some references in this um in the resolution that I would really encourage all of us to read through um I think they're very Illuminating and um and you know as the community looks through this I would encourage the community to read through these as well so that's all I

[191:01] have anyone else okay good enough then we'll have this in the TW CAC will figure out for sure but likely this will be in the packet under a public hearing for December 17th and we'll do public Outreach to make sure that it's widely known great great your next item um is your committee assignments there's a new sheet that we handed out earlier today you should have it is almost complete uh the State Highway 119 Coalition is not on there and the State Highway 7 Coalition it's not listed on there and the racial Equity one is on there I missed it when when I was looking at it so where is that oh is under internal City committees it's the last one so the reason I missed it too is does it call itself The Guiding Coalition yes it does okay so maybe we'll title it that way

[192:01] okay so are we arm wrestling how's this work yeah oh I just did the dairy board he did the dairy board so I mean normally what we do right go down the list and everybody says what they're interested in and then if there's the right number we say that's it and if there's more or less we come back to it right and I I just want to also observe that at least in past years we don't have to do it this time but in past years um we don't always walk away from this meeting with everything resolved I I remember almost every year in the last four years we've had two or three or four committees or assignments where a couple people wanted to do it and or maybe somebody wasn't in the room room and we took it offline and so nothing has to be decided tonight we should try to get as much of this done tonight but if there's a couple things that we need to park and and revisit in a week or two that's perfectly fine so I just wanted to maybe set that as a stage we should get as much done as we can but if two or three people would really want to do something then they should have a

[193:01] conversation separate from tonight yeah and I have had since I've spoken with most most of you about committees you're interested in it was really clear to me that there's a interest on this Council on the um intergovernmental Affairs committee also called the legislative committee so I spoke with Carl who's our staff member who leads that committee and he checked in with Tom and there's no reason we can't expand that committee it's historically been three but there have been times it's been two times it's been four and we even checked in is there a problem if the majority of council five people wanted to be on and the answer is no because the meetings get noticed already since it's three so I don't know if we want to think about that with other committees some of them are pretty prescriptive but that one in particular I I feel like we have latitude with so I have a question for Tom on that if if five members were to be part of that

[194:01] committee that's a quorum so decisions could conceivably be made there is that yeah is there an issue with with having there's not an issue I would assume you wouldn't um but the as Sam said that the current committee meets all the requirements for a council meeting it's noticed just as a council meeting is so you're de whenever you delegate authority to a group of more than two council members you we we treat it as a meeting so yes you theoretically could make decisions there I wouldn't advise it um but it would be legal okay just wanted to point that out with but you know I I think for us to take up an agenda item it would require 20 24 hours notice right so if the five council members got together to talk about legislative issues and they all said hey why don't we change the name of the municipal building they would have to notice that and do it at a later date so noticing does include the agenda for the meeting but yes if you're going to add something like changing the name of the municipal building to the Sam Weaver

[195:01] building then a good idea which has a ring to it yeah um you would want to provide prior notice of that okay but actually do have a suggestion for a name change for the municipal building but that's another matter [Music] right so should we just start at the top and go down the list Rocky Mountain Greenway committee um that was one of Lisa's favorite um because it's about connecting Denver International Airport through Rocky Flats to um Estus Park so Mir you've been the alternate on this do you want to I'll become the main person okay and would somebody like to step in as the alternate on this okay seeing none so Carl Castillo will be the staff alternate then all right um Boulder County Consortium of cities um Lisa always did that to keep connected with the county so it's all

[196:00] the cities in Boulder County meeting I think they meet every mon every other month so that's a really good way to get to know the leadership in the other cities as well as what the county is working on we will have transportation issues and affordable housing issues that this group will be talking about because there's discussion ongoing of how can we fund those at the county level interesting okay anyone else interested in this Mark Adam okay is that a member and an alternate rather than two members it looks like and so we'll come back to this and see who wants to be what when we get there okay CML policy committee so I'm going to um probably asked to do that if that's okay it's going to be um that's

[197:02] what mayor Jones did it meets I think three times a year meets in October December and February and its entire focus is State Legislature issu yeah so I I think it there's two votes yes for that yes and Carl can be the other vote Yes um I went once and I found that um a lot of the issues there were already they had recommendations from staff and so basically you went there and read the recommendations from staff and then just raised your hand and um so it was 3/4 of a day to go down there and do that and so I felt like um Carl could do that just as easily as a council member um if if the other council member just wants to read through the staff recommendations I think that would

[198:00] probably be good feedback um but I think um I just wanted to bring up that it's 3/4 of a day going down to M it is timec consuming 3 days in the year so if your interest is legislative affairs it could be interesting um the other thing I'll say is the reason we get two votes is because we're above 100,000 people so any City above 100,000 people has two Representatives available if anyone's interested raise your hand otherwise I'll do it with Carl okay Dr Dr Cog so I am interested in continuing this I've been doing it for four years and going down to Denver twice a month and I'm feel like I'm reasonably effective there after the four years I've been there but um Sam you probably don't want to be the alternate anymore right so I don't I'd be happy to work with somebody else anyone else

[199:01] interested I got y good and just so you know juny I went down one time so but you can go if want it's it you're welcome to go but we only have one vote there yeah you're you're welcome to come with me anytime but uh but we do only get the one vote yeah I have a pretty good attendance not to so Metro mayor's caucus that has to be me um National League of cities this can be as many Council people as are interested so juny does he know I applied did you good oh I applied too all right yeah we are we'll get those committee um appointments you all applied for pretty soon two or three weeks it's not it's not very long yes some cities bring practically

[200:00] their whole Council many cities bring Collins brings a whole bunch of people um I just have a question about this can people tell me what committees they applied for because that's something useful to do sometimes is coordinate yeah Community Development Community Development okay which would you I'm looking okay I believe I did Community Development as well okay that's fine that could be fine I applied for reappointment to uh it and Communications and I applied for the energy environment and natural resources committee and we can all go to the um university committees meeting so it's it's informal yeah I play for for Council the the real Council right which council did you apply to the real one oh real okay real yeah got it it's the racial I missed it I missed it yeah I should a and L I don't remember what A and L were for um race Equity uh and Leadership I think

[201:00] it's ant the real one so so Mary did you apply no real I did apply for Council NLC yeah yeah okay I applied for public safety and crime prevention human development and race Equity leadership real okay okay all right uh resource conservation Advisory board I would like to step off of that that is a county level meeting it happens about nine times a year and there's actually something pretty real to do right now because there's a sustainability tax at the county level and a subset of this group makes the recommendations for who gets grants from from the sustainability tax and then the entire group kind of approves those and there's very interesting conversations about soil Health about sustainability that recycling so I've enjoyed it and just don't have the time to keep going what does it mean that one meets on um fourth

[202:02] 45 to 6:30 at Boulder County Recycling Center MH interesting it conflicts with the standing appointment I created okay I'll do it you will okay Adam thank you all right rocky flat Stewardship Council I hate to do this but I'm going to step in um for Lisa but I'd like somebody to step in as the alternate so I only do it for one year oh I'll do it do that okay us36 Mayors and Commissioners um that's generally the Mayors and so I've

[203:00] done that one it's pretty high opening actually meeting with RTV the David David Jova resigned um commuting Solutions uh so you're on that you okay with staying on that anybody want to be the alternate for the commuting solutions group I mean you won't go very often if mirb um is going the alternate thing will be pry weak okay Mile High flood District this is one that only the mayor or mayor protim can do and I don't want to do it anymore process of elimination it blows a very big hole in your day as well um it is the best part of being mayor PRM group well it is it is the happy committee there's the happy Dr Cog is L yeah exactly

[204:00] okay audit committee I'd like to step off of it Bob has been on it for a while it's a lot easier than you think yes so Adam you're good for that one I'm happy to stay on as just a carryover continuity person do a third if and I'm gonna step off Mark you're coming on okay okay great boards and commissions committee I want to step off this is an important committee um it kind of makes sure that we're well connected with our boards and that that the boards are running smoothly and that the staff is supporting the boards so if Mary's coming off nearby will you stay on okay so we need somebody to sign up um I can probably uh step in on this there somebody who came from the

[205:02] boards I'll take a seat next time I'll I'll promise to that yeah or if you want it instead Adam I don't want to take it I don't want it instead this time but I'll commit till l okay next one we can strike out because um we don't need AA on anymore they changed the state law on us so we don't really and it never met anyway and it never met anyway Charter committee I would describe this instead as the charter and elections committee um because it considers potential Charter changes brought forth by staff but it also tends to look at what else will be on the ballot um I would like to come off of it it I've really enjoyed it though I would like to stay on um remind me how much it meets it meets three times a year for a couple hours right before like April and May okay I think I can do that okay how many does

[206:00] it need three three is best functions pretty well with three and the other thing is um and it's not just Charter changes brought forward by staff it's also council members can and what comes from the public as well gets run through there are you still looking I'll do it y thank you okay Council Retreat committee you two have been doing a pretty good job I've done it for four years first with Lisa and now with Mary um it's not much work but I'm also happy to um step off if somebody would like to do do it we're not they're not letting you off the hook I can I'm willing to stay on I'll do it another if no one wants to do it I'll do it another okay that'd be great um the employee evaluation committee this is much more involved than I appreciated

[207:02] when I first came on it so and there will be stuff we need to bring to the council to decide and so I'm going to stay on this one if you guys are willing but I would really like to bring somebody on okay yep and train them because I will want to go off in a year intergovernmental Affairs so this is the one that we can broaden as much as people would like who else Rachel B since I complained I have to now fix it yeah no we're just not going to let you exactly Mark Aaron you're still on here yeah I'd like to stay on just to fight Bob's efforts to shrink the and juny okay so this is this will be in fact one two three four five six I just want to state that I want to be on it but I'm going to

[208:00] stay off this time okay just for the sake of not having another council meeting all together Pro promise not to talk about you yeah and these meetings tend to be about 75 minutes long and they tend to occur um right before the legislative session and then right afterwards and our lobbyists come and they brief us on what they think is going to happen and then we debrief what did happen so that's that school issues committee has it there seems to be some interest in a meeting um so I've been on this for six years and we've met twice you know I wonder if if we need the yeah I mean we got an invitation from the from the school um uh board to have a joint meeting which I think is a great thing we do that with CU we do that with other groups so we should do that with them but I don't know if we need a standing committee Mary unless you think we do and I'll pointed the uh the mayor meets quarterly with um CU and

[209:02] bbsd and other leaders so we have that as well so shall we strike that committee people have an opinion do you have an opinion no I I'm fine either way is works for me and either way I'll stay on or come off I doesn't matter to me I I would probably strike it just to keep the number of committees more man I think you should strike it the the main reason that we had it before is that we formerly had an excise tax right that was dedicated to spending money for schools and we don't have that any longer Casey facad no money no meaning so what's this is this hill revitalization so that's the neighborhood piece and then there should be a hill revitalization commercial committee as well I believe that the commercial committee wants to

[210:03] disband and that this committee wants to continue and very very much wants a city council member to be a part of it so I I was on the commercial side of this um and it was fine I thought there was some interesting work I was hopeful that they would do a a bid the equivalent to a business improvement district on the hill but they could never get the the momentum so would you like to be on this one I was just going to ask when it meets this one meets quarterly I think it meets quarterly yeah I'd be interested okay CU process subcommittee ongoing so I'm going to throw my hat in the ring on that one I'm I have a a maybe discussion item for it first okay uh and Bob May disagree with me on it but I would move

[211:00] to disband this committee um its charge was engagement around process and I've gone to some meetings um and again it's it's supposed to be process but it has been pretty rich I found on content um discussing things like C Dot and variant and it's an extra thing that we um are asking uh constituents to go to if they want to be involved and there's also been such a um I think collapse of transparency around that whole project that I would much rather we were getting as a whole Council information monthly here and there's also a a recent incident where it looks like we're you know possibly studying Upstream to some degree again and that didn't come to council and I just think that there are didn't come to the process committee yeah so I just I I would like to make sure that we really have uh CU South um in hand and transparent and um flowing

[212:00] well so I would propose disbanding it and having more information come here so I'm not at all against more information coming here when run correctly process subcommittees are like the comp plan one that Aaron and I were on went really well and so I don't you know I didn't hear about s do at the process committee I heard about C do at CAC where we were scheduling how to get that information to council so for what it's worth um I if if there are problems with the way it's being run I think we should address those but the point of the process subcommittees that we've done in the past is to make sure that that Council agrees with staff that the process that they're going through to bring us information be um aligned yeah just by way of background we had um we had some bumps in the road prior to this year where Council thought that staff was doing some things and maybe staff

[213:01] didn't feel like they had adequate Direction and we had some misconnection that's that was kind of item number one and item number two was just the recognition that there needed to be plans for Community engagement not to have Community engagement at the process committee but to have plans for Community engagement so that's what Cindy and I have tried to do we've only met five or six times is we've we've served as a sounding board to staff staff wanted to check in and say do you think this is what council told us to do um and by the way what do you think about this type of community engagement or do you think we should go to this board now um I think it serves a purpose I'm not personally offended if if we disband it it'll just that all those discussions will simply have to come to council but if if Council wants to take those on that's perfectly fine I think not to speak for staff I think staff actually got some benefit from it yes they did um but but staff can come here you know once a month and and bounce things off of us as well Mary well so I I've found the process

[214:00] committees really really beneficial um in terms of um and and please step in um Ain if you feel a need to but in the open space master plan process subcommittee there were many many Rich discussions and um we were there Erin and I were there with two members of the open space Board of Trustees and um the four of us um were always self- policing to not go outside of speaking strictly to process and there were many times when we actually [Music] um staff brought a plan forward to us and we said no this isn't going to fly and um and as painful as it might have been for staff um I think in the

[215:03] end it was very helpful and um very very beneficial to everyone involved to councel to um to staff to um the open space board and to the community because as an example um there was um in um a set of scenarios as to how something could go there was an example that was brought from another department just as a theoretical to say like well um you know it could be something like in transportation we we're going to just let everybody Drive 40 m an hour down residential streets and as just an example within the open space master plan and we said no you can't do that make it from another city or something because that will get out of context and suddenly the community will be saying

[216:00] that did you know that council is going to raise the speed limit to 40 in residential streets so I mean just things like that that um that may not seem like a big deal but if you don't have um the voices of council members saying that's not going to fly then you know missteps can be made so I I I think they're really really extremely valuable but they're only as valuable as there is discipline to stay within the bounds of process that's right if I can just add to that and just to be clear when you said there were plans brought they were purely processed plans right we'll have this meeting and then we'll have this this group to talk to and and there were a couple times where I felt like our Direction was helpful so I you know Rachel I hear your concerns I wonder um if we could uh just send a directive to make very sure to the process committee to be strictly about process and to get meeting minutes as a council um because

[217:02] I don't think we've gotten minutes from this subcommittee they are published I don't know that they've been sent to us in email may not been yeah but they could be so so just to finish that so I think if we if we paid a little closer attention we got um minutes and there was a clear Charter about the the exact limits then work out so I'm got Mark next then Bob then Rachel yeah I I I think the committee is is an important one but I'd want to address Rachel's desire for more transparency and information and I would second Bob's comments because I think it's not that hard to do that um but I think the committee itself is likely to prove important um and if we can get you the information that that I think we all would like to see um I think the Comm the committee has value I mean I like go ahead I'm sorry um I must to here Bob and then Rachel yeah a couple things um first of all there are minutes taken

[218:02] there post on the website we could certainly have those email to council as well on top of that but they the staff's really good about it that's number one number two is Jing Gazo runs a meeting and Jean's a tough cookie and whenever there was somebody who tried to stray off of um process and into substance Jean Steed us right back so I think I'm going to take a little exception with what what um Rachel said um she wasn't at all the meetings I think at least the two committee members try to to stay on process the one thing I would change about the meeting um is um the meeting ends with Community comment and that's not helpful at all because the usual suspects show up and they literally sit on opposite opposite sides of the room and they make speeches that are that are entirely consistent with their respective positions and it's very adversarial and not productive or helpful for the process committee so I would eliminate that and have the committee be a process Committee of two or three council members and staff Community can sit there and watch if they want but hearing hearing the same

[219:00] people come to us and talk about flood mitigation and CU and this thing and that thing that we hear here is not helpful to that process committee we hear the same thing over and over again and that's where where the Venture into substance really happens um not with the committee and the staff so that's I think it's a worthwhile thing I think anybody can serve on it I don't need to serve on it I don't really care either way but um I think it is worthwhile to continue There is a charter that can be published in sent to council there is minutes that can be published in sent to council um and staff does a really good job of keeping it on process and I would simply eliminate the public comment part of the meeting so I was there when public comment included this is not process oriented I also because I haven't gone to many subcommittee meetings uh spoke with somebody who was a former board member and said you know are you finding that this is in line with how subcommittee um process meetings work and that person said no this is very uh

[220:00] much more veering into content so it it's I uh take exception with staff was keeping it on track because it was one of the things I heard was we need to here and now that variant 2 is dead that that's very content um specific so if this is going to continue it really needs to be processed and and back to the origins which in included public engagement I think was the primary reason that we were creating this thanks so I would like to be on it and I I don't want to get rid of it um it doesn't seem to me like there's a whole Rachel I think I think you're the only one asking to get rid of it so um B do you want to stay on it I have to stay on it okay I would definitely want to be on it okay so Rachel is there a Max for that

[221:00] one no I don't think so we could do I don't know that it's noticed is it yeah oh two doesn't have to be noticed right so we I mean you can notice it then you can have three so I'll just say that one of the things that has been attempted in the past is um on the process subcommittees has been to have two members keep it to two members and to have um a diverse set of of views represented by those two members I think that's why I send you now we're chosen yeah so I'm fine with that I the the one reason that I'm hopeful to be on this is to make sure it is processed that's what I'm really up for maybe this can be one where we take it offline and have conversations and figure out what the best outcome is we could make it three and notice it or we could make it to if we draw straws and

[222:00] are happy with the outcomes yes so that's fine let's take that moving on community benefit process subcommittee that is no longer needed so that can come off we adopted what we were going to with that and then there is one to add here I don't know if it's somewhere else I don't think so which is the Alpine Ballam County participation subcommittee right and I'd be willing to step off that if somebody wants to come on who's on I think it's Bob and I and we've only met twice so I don't think losing Sam if the Samone step off would cause a continuity problem yeah Mark Mark you want it yeah so so that one you know it it again is about process there's a little bit more outlining of what we want to hear back from the county there it's like we want to hear can you do it with this much parking can you do it with this many square feet you know how we're how are

[223:01] we going to make parking work so they come and they bring like a list of findings that they've made in the intervening time and then we ask ask questions so I'm happy to come off it that one is is not so much process no really it's it's more um tasking staff um the the people who are on this committee really need to kind of anticipate the kind of questions that Council will be asking um and our staff is great I'm our staff does a great job it's just it's really I mean to be real candidate about it it's just really kind of nudging the county staff to gather information that we all need to to make a decision so it's it's much about about that is anything yeah it's about anticipating the problems are there showstoppers or deal breakers that we could flesh out right away so that we don't carry this option if it's not really an option so okay so I've got um Bob and Mark on that

[224:00] one so the guiding Coalition Mary you want understand that one yeah I do and would anyone else like to be on the guiding Cod so this meets once a month um fourth Tuesdays of the month right before um study session so I'm I'm interested in this one but I I'm don't want to rule other people out is this the racial Equity subcommittee yeah yeah yeah it's the guiding Coalition for I I would have joined this last year but my schedule just didn't permit okay all righty is that a two Max I have no idea ask Mary I wasn't on it is it I don't Jane does it need to be two or it doesn't need to be two it could be more but then we'd have to notice it I'd be interested as well if we're going over the two juny just made that

[225:00] suggestion that maybe that's one that more people should be on just so that we're aware of it okay so I'm not sure who signed up for that just now right now myself and Aaron okay Rachel's interested Adam were you interested or I have an interest too juny did I hear you w't that's going to be another large one we're going to sneak in a renaming the mun building somewhere in one of these this I think this is the one we do it in I think can we do it just to pass it and then switch it back is that possible all right now they get easy just make a handwritten sign and put it up front can I bring it there were a couple Transportation ones that aren't on the list the State Highway 119 and 7 right so just bring those up I'm interested in both of them so do you usually have one or two there or is it just you so the well just talk about them individually so uh because I don't think we have the transportation staff here but State Highway 119 is I

[226:00] believe it's uh just the a county commissioner uh the Longmont mayor and a council representative with uh staff assistance and it I think it's supposed to me every month or every two months and it's to just to try to keep moving the 119 project forward that's that one the State Highway 7 is a much bigger one it's um counties and municipalities from Boulder All the Way East to Brighton uh Broomfield Erie Lafayette Etc um and so that's a big group that meets I think quarterly uh to move the State Highway 7 project forward so I've been to that one once uh xan served on both of these um so I was her alternate on at least the State Highway 71 uh but anyway since I feel like there's some Synergy with the Dr Cog stuff so I'm happy to do this if anyone's interested in joining me um that's great too I mean the one other person that would come to mind would be whoever got on

[227:00] the uh sorry I'm looking for the Boulder County Consortium of cities So Adam I'll be alternate okay if for both of them that's problem great okay I'll give you the one that's a.m. on a Wednesday yeah that's fine okay and so now we're down to boka board oh this is me again I'm I'm happy to continue doing this mainly because tomorrow is their holiday party and I hate to okay anybody else interested um downtown convention and visitors oh sorry the CN convention and visitors bureau board I'd like to continue this one um I've been on for a couple of years um I do occasionally Miss meetings however so an alternate is kind of

[228:00] important okay anybody interested in convention and visitors bureau I'm happy to be the alternate okay oh I you're like the new Lisa you're volunteer a lot of them are alternates that's okay so der Center Mary did I hear correctly you want to come off with this I'm I'm going off because I'm going on Sho so okay you would Mark okay on the business I'd like to see on the uh downtown business Improvement District board it's it's two actually two members it's not an alternate it's two co-equal members and never go and but Sam's been a really lousy partner um was it was actually Jill Grano and me initially what this is about is the meetings are roughly monthly and we present for about five or 10 minutes of what council is doing uh and uh staff evet is usually there as well I I learn more from AET at these meetings than I do anywhere else are

[229:02] they still at 7 a.m. no they moved it to 9:00 a.m. yeah and that Jill Gro insisted upon that and then she left and you left so it I started on this board when I got on Council it's a really good way to learn about the downtown and this one actually has a voting function on it we are ex officio members but it's a a minor government body of its own it manages about $1.6 million anyone interested in joining Bob okay Mark said yes okay okay Boulder housing Partners that's kind of a special situation um I think we have a lot of people interested in it but the board is probably going to contract we have to approve that but there's discussions at the nine-person board right now and the executive director would like to see it at 7 and

[230:00] there's two resignations I think a term is ending and a resignation so this is a convenient time to do that because nobody has to come off who was in intending to stay on and that won't happen until March right and that won't happen until March so we have some time to figure this out Bob is currently the representative I think Bob would like to get off and are there other folks interested Mark and juny okay I go ahead I wanted to ask you about the process because it appears that Mark wallik really has a strong interest and I do as well y uh and I wanted to know what are the possibilities of either of what what is it a front runner and then an alternate member an alter and that because I really want to be on that board because you know I rent on socioeconomic diversity and political inclusion and housing is something that is very important to me and I understand that Mark has you know a lot of years

[231:01] working as a developer but I believe to me that would be very close to what I rent on and the values that I sent on I want to learn as much as possible about affordable housing and so I really want that opportunity and also if that's any understanding or consolation I do have a real estate license so I do under and I'm a quick learner so I really want to join that board and I hope that Mark will give me that opportunity that'll be swords at dawn so so I think yeah there's there's two possibilities here that I can see one is that there's a a main person and Alternate the alternate just goes to the meeting they don't have a vote but they can attend as far as learning and and contributing goes um another is what Bob did originally um when he was first on Council is he joined the development committee which is pretty substantial right they're planning out like what they're going to do with their money yeah all the all the projects come through the development committee which

[232:00] cons um consists of board members but um also can consist of non-board members and for me it was a one-year training ground it was a good opportunity for me to understand um um the board and then moved into the board my second year so if one of you wants the appointment and the other wants to join the development committee I think that's another way that we could get both of you working with the boulder housing Partners so why don't you guys have a conversation and talk with Jeremy because I think Jeremy would probably like to tell you maybe he knows more options but he would be the one that you'd be working with so no swords no swords no no um so have you both talked with Jeremy I have I actually met with him today okay we had a lengthy discussion earlier today so well um we have a little time on this so if you guys would like to get together and parse out how whether you'd like to do an alternate and both go to the board meetings but one of you is the voting member or if you would like to do one on the development committee and one um who

[233:00] steps on right now so I don't know what the best solution is Bob you probably got the best advice here well I think I think the no I don't I mean you guys should work it out between the two of you and and maybe the two of you should sit down to Jeremy and the three of you can work it out so um and this can be effective there is actually board meeting next week which I'll plan to go to but this can be effective either with the boards and commission appointment in March or or if one of you wants to step in in January February that's entirely up to you guys it's it's a mayoral appointment Sam actually makes the appointment so it happens whenever Sam says I I I the mayor typically consults with all of council so it's formerly a mayoral appointment but it will be done as the group consensus I was going to ask you what can I do I'm not going there um shiaka Mary are you willing to do that one I already am she already is oh that's right you already already enthusiasm is helpable okay so we're down to the

[234:03] sister cities I am going to come off my lossa board it's pretty active board for what it's worth the loss of Tibet one is and there have been opportunities to travel over there one of the people Bill waro Who's involved takes a trip over there every one or two years and he works in western China as well as Tibet so he does a lot of really interesting medical work so I'll just put that out there he was asking for recommendations and I said I didn't know it would depend on people but if you like the kind of um the medical work that he goes over and teaches people how to get rid of parasites and children if I can just add to that cuz I I've chatted with Bill a little bit and there he's he and they are definitely looking for an involved council member so they're really looking for somebody to volunteer who you know will participate not that it's a huge amount of work but it's not so just should we go through them yeah we we each go on one and then one

[235:01] person does two is that how it works well if Sam doesn't taken you we'll have to have great math on my part then so just to just to just to clarify on the sister cities sister cities aren't um really a city project they're independent and the the representatives are lisons in case something comes up um to the to the city there's also um yeah the subcomittee sister city subcommittee that basically um meets to um hear interest in new sister cities that are brought forward by community members um and to plan the annual party is that right so um it's generally [Music]

[236:00] um the sister city liaison work is not a real heavy left yeah and to add to that couple of these I wouldn't call them defunct but they're really really um having trouble right now so Yas Cuba um I don't know that they've met in a long time and then another one is kumu Kenya because of the political situation there um there's been trouble with travel and safety so there's a couple here that aren't going to be very much work and the same and the same with mon uhuh okay let's get start started Des Bay um I have two right now I'd like to keep desan Bay as a matter of fact there might be a trip to desan Bay um in either mayor June that I'm actually may be trying to go on if I can figure it out um but I also have ront HEV Israel and and those of you are on Council might remember that mirabai and I struck a deal a year ago that I would take um raat for a year but that mirabi would

[237:01] take it over now so I'm yielding to mirb on ront okay yeah I'll take that on okay yapa Aaron yeah I've done that my whole time on Council it's a good group um so I have two right now and so if if one of them somebody wants to to take over let me know or I can keep doing both cman do Nepal now that was recently added um they very much want the mayor to come over or a council member and so Suzanne and I couldn't make it so I don't know if there's a trip in that one in the future I currently have it and yeah I would highly suggest someone who's interactive because I think they were getting quite frustrated but they also seem to think that we can um go over there easily and I don't have that ability so someone who may have a bigger ability then just just to be clear on the on the travel with sister

[238:01] cities they're self-funded self-funded it's all out of your pocket it is self-funded but like in the one for cman do they were volunteering to put up all the lodging so you had to find your plane fair but they were going to pay lodging okay so Mark I'll take it that one how much the when I was there a dollar a night kumu Kenya I I mean I haven't ever I I meet with them during our annual sister city and they're lovely people um but if someone wants it again I have um two right now so I'm happy to stay on but okay anyone interested in kumu um Lassa tiet you said that one needs a a new person it does okay

[239:04] great Monte I'll stay okay noblis Palestine I'll just make a comment on this one first um even the leis is designated as the liaison I've been probably way more active than she has and I actually went over to novelist with the group um earlier this year it's a super super active group this is one of our our new sister cities and they meet every month and they expect a lot of council activity and they are planning another trip I think in March or April and they're probably going to go over at least once a year if not twice twice a year um so it's it's a good group and but it's a very active group so just whoever signs up for it needs to understand there's a lot of activity there I'm not interest signing up I'm just telling you what you're getting into anyone or maybe I just did sign I think you just

[240:00] did that was not my intentions I understand okay but you came off from mandab I did that's a trade stay in the region yamag Japan Aaron am fine continuing here and this got busy right as the campaign season started so I'm afraid I didn't do a great job in the last few months but I would do a better job next year or if someone else would like to take it that's fine too these are very friendly folks who are on this this is a really good group so who doesn't have one Adam do you have you sign up for one I don't have any yet but you holding up for Cuba I don't travel that much most most these don't invol involve travel most these what about yamag well they offer to take people but it's usually have you ever gone well so they do one trip every three years or so and they just did one so I won't even have a trip option yeah sounds perfect

[241:00] for [Laughter] me okay all yours you Terrace is going to need someone that's a fairly Light Lift you need to have one [Music] yet sure okay okay and then the sister city subcommittee so both members went off of that and I don't think this meets very often right only meets if there's a new application right and then for the party to plan the party and to plan the party which actually Heidi does let's be honest so come on folks we can get out of here as soon as we sign up for these we blew 10 o' before 10:30 somebody else on the sister city

[242:00] subcommittee do we actually need to I don't know if we need to we need to yes suffering with juny would you consider that one as well actually oh no okay okay that's okay thank you yeah that's fine if it doesn't meet off and I haven't been on anything with Rachel yet so parties a party that we don't plan right exactly we have two or three that we're going toid does all work so the two so older housing Partners is going to get a further conversation Su South can get further conversation Su South gets a further conversation partners housing Partners yes yep and those are the only two all right can you review for me the boulder Consortium Boulder County Consortium of cities I had Mark and was there someone else Mark and Adam okay I believe I was the primary yeah you are and Mark is the alternate correct okay MH and then raise your hand if you're

[243:02] not on National League of cities okay thank you and jry Arch Center that was me just one yes okay thank you does national league of cities have to notice the meeting when we go to the annual meetings no no just don't talk about stuff cool don't change the name of the munity building noted for those of you who um um AR National League of cities the conference the there's two conferences a year the March conference is March 5th through 8th that's a good one and if a bunch of us go we're going to want to reschedule the March excuse me I got the dates wrong March um 8th through 11th is the conference and we have a board and commission interview on March 10th that we might want to

[244:04] reschedule okay with that um I think we're through our agenda does anybody want a debrief any comments on how the meeting went how it was run good job yeah yeah good job all right 05 that's better than the last I know I'm 30 next time see you in a row keep it going I'm [Music] trying Live from Paris of fat