May 14, 2019 — City Council Study Session

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

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[3:37] WE HAVE THREE MATTERS IN FRONT OF US AND I THINK THE OPEN SPACE SURVEY. THINK YOU COULD EVEN EVERYBODY.

[4:24] SO AS WE THINK ABOUT THE AGENDA AND APPROACH FOR TONIGHT WE ARE HERE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE SURVEY FINDINGS. AND TO DISCUSS THOSE WITH YOU AN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TONIGHT AND THAT IS IN PART BECAUSE WE HAVE A JOINT STUDY SESSION. SCHEDULED ON JUNE ELEVENTH AND WHILE WE HAVE THREE HOURS THAT NIGHT.IT'S A STUDY SESSION ALSO WITH OPEN SEWERS BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND SO WE WANT TO DEVOTE AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN AT THAT. THAT MEANING TO TALKING ABOUT THE DRAFT PLAN ITSELF AND SO WANT TO USE TONIGHT IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE SURVEY FINDINGS. AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOW. ANOTHER BIG DAY THAT WE HAVE AHEAD OF US IS COMING UP

[5:00] QUICKLY AND THAT IS MADE TWENTIETH AND WE ARE SO EXCITED TO BE AT THIS POINT. WE'RE GOING TO BE RELEASING OUR VERY FIRST DRAFT OF THE MASTER PLAN.I REALLY WHAT I THINK THAT AARON BRACKETT AND THEIR YOUNG MEMBERS A PROCESS TO ME FOR HAVING GUIDED US TO THIS POINT ARE SO EXCITED THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING. THIS THIS DOCUMENT STUFF WISE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SO WHAT WE PRESENT. ON THE TWENTIETH IS REALLY HOPEFULLY NOT GOING TO FEEL VERY NEW TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S A REFLECTION OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING ALL ALONG AND GETTING INPUT AND CONSENSUS ON SO WHEN WE RELEASE THAT WILL BE ACCEPTING COMMENTS THROUGH JUNE TWELFTH.AND WE HAVE WORK TO THE BOSSES COMMITTEE THOUGH TO CLARIFY THAT THE COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY JUNE THIRD.WE WILL BE ABLE TO SUMMARIZE THOSE TO SUPPORT D STUDY SESSION ON JUNE ELEVENTH. THOSE THAT COME IN AFTER WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED AS WE CONSIDER. REVISIONS TO THE FINAL PLAN BUT WE WILL NOT ALSO BE ABLE TO ANALYZE THOSE IN TIME FOR THE STUDY SESSION. WE ARE

[6:02] ALSO TRANSLATING OUR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY INTO SPANISH AND MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO THOSE WE BUILT RELATIONSHIPS WITH THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. AND MAKING COMMENTS IN THE UPPER BODY ON MY COMMENT FORM TO SUPPORT COMMENTS ON THE JUST PLAIN ITSELF. AND AGAIN WILL BE ABLE TO SUMMARIZE INPUTS FROM THAT THE JOINT STUDY SESSION SO THE BOARD AND COUNCIL HAVE AN IDEA. OF HOW OF THE IS PERCEIVING THE DRAFT PLAN THE PROCESS COMMITTEE FELT THAT THAT WAS IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR BOARDING COUNCIL TO. HAVE AT THEIR FINGERTIPS AS WE START DISCUSSING THE OUTCOMES OF STRATEGIES AND SO WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR YOU. ARE ALSO DOING TO COMMUTE DROP IN HOURS ONE ON THURSDAY MAY THIRTIETH AND ANOTHER ON SATURDAY JUNE'S FIRST. AND THOSE ARE IN FORM OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEMBERS OF THE TO COME AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRAFT PLAN GIVES. THE POTENTIAL FEEDBACK THAT THEY MAY WANT TO SHARE WITH US. AND AGAIN ON JUNE ELEVENTH I WILL. HAVE A WONDERFUL CONVERSATION WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AND THAT'LL BE ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR SINCE OUR LAST JOINED BOB BOARD STUDY SESSION WITH COUNCIL. BUT WE

[7:00] ARE WORKING TOWARDS APPROVING THE FOCUS AREAS WITH YOU. AND THEY WERE STILL ON TRACK TO HAVING PRESENTED THE FINAL DRAFT MASTER PLAN TO FOR CONSIDERATION ON SEPTEMBER THIRD ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT SCHEDULE. YET I JUST WANNA MENTION BEFORE I LEAVE THE SLIDE IS THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT PREPARING FOR THE JUNE ELEVENTH.THE STUDY SESSION AGAIN WE HAVE THREE HOURS. BECAUSE THAT'S FOURTEEN PEOPLE THAT WILL BE FACILITATING CONVERSATION WITH WE ARE ALSO GOING TO SEND OUT A VERY BRIEF QUESTIONNAIRE TO MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BOARD. TO GET A PULSE ON WHERE YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SPEND MOST OF THE TIME SO THAT WE CAN INFORM THE AGENDA EVEN FURTHER TO LOOK FOR THAT AS THAT COMES IN HER INBOX.SO JUST ASSUME AFTER JUST A MINUTE AND RE ORIENT US IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN WHERE WE ARE NOW ALL WE DID START THE PROCESS. IN JANUARY OF LAST YEAR WITH A REALLY BROAD INCLUSIVE APPROACH TO A VALUES BASED PLANNING PROCESS. AND ASK QUESTIONS AROUND HOPES AND CONCERNS FOR THE FUTURE. AND DEVELOP THOSE

[8:02] INTO A SET OF FOCUS AREAS OF VALUE STATEMENTS THOSE FOCUS AREAS OF YOUR MEMBER CAME THROUGH BOARD FOR RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE IN JULY OF LAST YEAR. OUR THIRD ENGAGEMENT WINDOW WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY OK WHAT DO THOSE REALLY MEAN SO WORTHY ASPIRATIONS WE HAVE IN RELATION TO THOSE FOCUS AREAS. AND WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE THINK ABOUT ACTUALLY ADVANCING WORK TOWARDS THOSE THOSE MANAGEMENT TEAMS. SO WE WORK TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THE FALL AND INTO EARLY THIS YEAR TO DEVELOP. REFINE THOSE OUTCOMES IN STRATEGIES AS WELL AS A SERIES OF STUDY SESSIONS WITH OUR BOARD. AND THEN WORKED WORDS ARE FORCING YOU TO WONDER WHERE WE ASK THE COMMUNITY TO HELP US PRIORITIZE THE STRATEGIES. AND SO AGAIN WE'RE COMING UP ON THE POINT OF RELEASING THE DRAFT PLAN WHICH IS A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THE INPUT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ALL ALONG TO THIS POINT. SO JUST BY WAY OF A REMINDER OF WHAT OUR MOST RECENT ENGAGEMENT WINDOW LOOKS LIKE AGAIN IS OUR FOURTH WINDOW WE HAD A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP IN WHICH SEVENTY PARTICIPANTS CAME. TONIGHT WE'RE HERE TO

[9:02] TALK ABOUT THE STATISTICAL SURVEY WHICH WAS ON COMPONENT. OF THAT ENGAGEMENT WINDOW AND WE DID HAVE OVER THIRTEEN HUNDRED RESPONSES WHICH EQUATED TO A TWENTY THREE PERCENT RESPONSE RATE SO WERE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HIGHER RESPONSE RATES IN OUR TWENTY SIXTEEN RESIDENT SURVEY.WE ALSO PUT THE SAME SET OF QUESTIONS ON MINE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC'S ANSWER AND ABOUT THE JUST UNDER TWENTY THREE HUNDRED RESPONDED TO THAT SO. ALSO STRONG SHOWING FOR ON THE FRONT. WHEELS AND A SERIES OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING MY CREATIONS WERE WE REACH OUT TO MEMBERS THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE TYPICALLY UNDER SERVED AND SO IN THIS CASE THAT. INVOLVED WORKING WITH OUR YOUTH OPTIONS ADVISORY BOARD AND GETTING THEIR INPUT AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE LATINO COMMUNITY AND THOSE EXTREMES AND DISABILITIES AS WELL AS. SOME PE RANCHERS AND FARMERS MUST SEES FOR A PROGRAM. WE ALSO THEN PROVIDED THAT SAME SURVEY TO THE PRO TOURS WHICH IS A PROGRAM WE WORKED WITH US OF SOME DRAMA START TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE LATINO COMMUNITY. AND ALL THROUGHOUT

[10:00] WE'VE BEEN ENGAGING OUR STAFF SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A RHYTHM WHERE WE WORK WITH OUR STAFF TO GET THEIR INPUT PRIOR TO COMING OUT TO THE . TO HELP REFINE HIS IDEAS AND INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE RESULTS OF THE IS AN TO WEIGH IN ON.SO AGAIN I MENTION TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THE STATISTICAL SURVEY AND AN ALLOW YOU TO START TO UNDERSTAND THOSE FINDINGS AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ESPECIALLY WELL WE HAVE. THE BENEFIT OF THOSE ERRANDS A PRESENTER TONIGHT. AND RESTORATION IN TERMS OF WHY WE DID THE SAME. THING WHAT ARE THE MOST OBVIOUS THINGS THAT ARE THAT WE ALL KNOW IS THAT THIS APPROACH TO DESIGN THIS THE SURVEY. GIVES US REPRESENTATIVE FEEDBACK OF COMMUNITY PERCEPTIONS AND IF YOU REMEMBER ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN WE DEVELOP THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN. WE WERE GUIDED BY BOTH COURTING COUNCIL TO EXPLORE TRADE OFFS FOR EXAMPLE AND SOME HARD QUESTIONS THAT WE GRAPPLE WITH AS A DEPARTMENT. AND WE ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY AND WE NOW HAVE AGAIN REPRESENTED FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THE SOME OF THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE TOPICS. AND

[11:02] AGAIN TO THE MASTER PLAN ALSO REALLY INFORMS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT AND SOME PARTICULAR IT'S HELPED US FIRM AND OR FINES MEMBERSHIP CARD DRAW STRATEGIES. AND AS WELL AS FROM A FINE SUMMER JUST FUNDING PRIORITIES. AND AS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS STAFF TO INCORPORATE THE SURVEY FINDINGS INTO THE DRAFT PLAN I JUST WANNA STRESS THAT THIS IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF ADDRESSING THAT INPUT. BUT WE FULLY EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THE CONCERT IN THIS NEXT ENGAGEMENT WINDOW ABOUT HOW WELL WE DID THAT DID WE FULLY INCORPORATE THAT IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY AS WELL AS OTHER FEEDBACK WE HEARD AND THEN ONLY COME TO BOARDING COUNCIL IN JUNE WILL BE ASKING THE SAME SET OF QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO APPLY AND INTEGRATE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AS AS APPROPRIATE. THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE SURVEY THAT SUPPORT IMPLEMENTATION. AND SOME OF THE MASK A SET OF DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT. GIVE US AN IDEA AT THIS POINT IN THE MASTER PLAN FROM A CONCEPTUAL STANDPOINT WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS ON CERTAIN ISSUES. BUT AS IT COMES TO MAKING SPECIFIC DECISIONS ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THOSE WILL ACTUALLY CALM IN IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING OR IMPLEMENTATION PROJECTS.

[12:00] WHERE FOR EXAMPLE WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT THE TIME PARTICULARS AROUND WHERE WE MIGHT APPLY A SET OF MANAGEMENT APPROACHES.SO JUST TO REMIND US BECAUSE THIS IS A STATISTICALLY. VALID SURVEY WHAT WE DID IS WORSE THE PROCESS KAMI TO CONFIRM OUR TARGET TARGET AUDIENCE AND THAT WAS CONFIRMED TO BE AREAS ONE TWO AND THREE RESIDENTS WAS THAT WITHIN THE BOULDER VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING AREA. WE SENT FIVE THOUSAND TO THOSE IN AREA ONE WITHIN CITY LIMITS AND THEN A THOUSAND WITHIN AREAS TWO AND THREE AND HEAR SOME OF THE RESULTS. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE I HAVE DUE TO APPEAR THAT. I ADMITTEDLY WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH SO THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION AND PLEASE DO LET ME FINISH MY RESERVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR WHY IN THE DARK BLUE ON THE LEFT INSIDE IS A PERCENTAGE OF RESPONDENTS WHO. FELT LIKE THE FOCUS AREAS THAT THE COUNCIL CONFIRMED LAST SUMMER ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.SO IF AND THE LATE

[13:02] LOU IS THOSE THAT FELT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THAT'S REALLY STRONG CONFIRMATION. OF THE BOAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH TO DEVELOP THOSE AS WELL AS THE GUIDANCE THAT WE GOT FROM BORDEN COUNCILS OF FOR EXAMPLE. WHEN WE FIRST CAME TO YOU WITH PROPOSED FOCUS AREAS LAST YEAR.AGRICULTURE WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE AND BOARDING COUNCIL RECOMMENDED THAT THE CALM ONE AND IN THIS CASE IF YOU COMBINE ALL THOSE THAT FEEL AT LEAST ESSEX SOME DEGREE IMPORTANT.THAT'S NINETY ONE PERCENT OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FEEL THAT THAT WAS A GOOD DECISION TO ELEVATE THAT TO FOCUS AREA.IF YOU ADD IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST LINE THERE FOR AGRICULTURE TODAY AND TOMORROW AND YOU ADD THOSE THAT FEEL IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL VERY IMPORTANT OR SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT.COMPARING IT TO ECOSYSTEM HEALTH AND RESISTANCE AND RESILIENCE. WHAT WOULD THAT BE IN THE NINETY EIGHT PERCENT YET. OW YEAH THAT LAST ONE OUT SO MUCH.SURE ABSOLUTELYIT'S

[14:10] REALLY AND IN THAT PARTICULAR FINDING ME JUST MENTION LISA SHOWS UP IN A LOT OF THE FINDINGS IN THE SURVEY. WHICH THREW OUT THAT THE MOST IMP ON PORTLAND FOR THE ECOSYSTEM HEALTH AND RESPONSIBLE RECREATION STEWARDSHIP AND ENJOYMENT.YEP AND SO THAT'S I CAN BE FOCUSED BUT I THINK YOUR ONLY POINT WAS THAT WAS ADDED SO GREAT.THE AGRICULTURE TEACHER JUST POINTING OUT THAT WAS ADDED AT THE END BY THE BOARD.IT'S NOT MORE IMPORTANT.IT JUST TURNS OUT IT'S WHILE IT'S IN THERE AND PEOPLE PICKED IT BUT NICER LAST CHOICE DO WE HAVE ANY THAT WERE BELOW ALL OF THESE. NO THESE ARE JUST SO THEY RECTIFY IN HAND.YUP YUPSO ANOTHER IMPORTANT FINDING IS THAT WE ALSO NOW HAVE A

[15:00] STRONG DATA AND FROM OUR RESIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT PARKING CONGESTION AS WELL AS CROWDING ON TRAILS. ARE ON THE MINDS OF OUR RESIDENTS. SO IT PROBABLY WON'T BE SURPRISING TO SEE THAT CHAUTAUQUA ENCINITAS ARE THOSE CONSIDERED TO HAVE THE MOST PROBLEMS FOR EXAMPLE ON WHETHER THAT'S A SMALL OR LARGE PROBLEM. BUT IF YOU LOOKED ON THE LIST WE ALSO SEE SOME OF THESE LESSER KNOWN SITES APPROACHING ABOUT HALF OF RESIDENTS. WHO START COURSE THAT LEE STARTING TO PERCEIVE SOME AMOUNT OF EITHER PARKING CONGESTION AND CROWDING ON THE TRAILS. AND SO TO US WHAT THIS HELPS US UNDERSTAND IS THAT CONFIRMS WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT SOME OF OUR HIGH USE AREAS ALREADY. BUT IT GIVES US A SENSE OF SOME OF THOSE EMERGING HOTSPOTS WHERE WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THOSE THAT WE UNDERSTAND AND PERHAPS CAN TAKE EARLY ACTION WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.WE ALSO PASSED A SET OF QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF MANAGEMENT PREFERENCES FOR

[16:00] HOW WE MIGHT APPROACH. THE AREAS WHERE THERE'S HIGH VISITATION AND SO THIS IS JUST A SAMPLING FROM A LARGER LIST OF POTENTIAL APPROACHES. AND AGAIN THAT DARK BLUE IS TO THOSE WHO STRONGLY SUPPORTED LIGHT BLUE IS SUPPORT AND THE OTHERS ARE POWS.SO YEP AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH. ME AGAIN AT TWENTY SIXTEEN RESIDENT SURVEY WHERE EDUCATION IS REALLY UNDERSTOOD AND SUPPORTED TO BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STRATEGIES FOR ADDRESSING A NUMBER OF ISSUES. AND IN SOME CASES WE CAN PERCEIVE THAT IS AS ONE OF OUR LEAST RESTRICTIVE MANAGEMENT APPROACHES. AND THERE WAS ALSO IN THIS CASE STRONG SUPPORT FOR LOW OR NO COST SHUTTLES TO TRAIL HEADS IN THIS CASE EIGHTY SEVEN PERCENT EITHER SUPPORT OR STRONGLY SUPPORT. THAT IS A MANAGEMENT APPROACH AS HE LOOKED DOWN THE AIKEN.YOU

[17:03] KNOW WE'RE ACTUALLY MONITORING THAT CHAUTAUQUA TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND SO FOR EXAM ON THE FIRST YEAR OF PILOTING THE SHUTTLE SYSTEM IN CHAUTAUQUA VISITATION ACTUALLY DID GO DOWN SO. WE DON'T KNOW IT'S NOT CAUSAL IS AN ONGOING MONITORING PROJECT BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DESIGN A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.ABSOLUTELY AND SO THAT IS A SWEET AND THAT WE HAVE A SWEET TRADITION TOOLS THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED IN YOUR STRATEGIES TO YET. AND SO AS WE GO DOWN THE LIST IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST TWO FOR EXAMPLE THOSE MIGHT BE CONSIDERED SOME OF THE MORE RESTRICTIVE OPTIONS THAT WE ASK FOR. REFERENCES ON ZA FOR EXAMPLE CHARGING FOR PARKING AND MORE HAHAS WAS NOT STRONGLY SUPPORT AND AND AND ROUGHLY BOUT OF ONLY ABOUT A THIRD SUPPORTED THAT. AND EVEN FEWER SUPPORTED THE IDEA OF RECORDING A RESERVATION SYSTEM TO ACCESS THESE AREAS DURING POPULAR TIMES.SO

[18:01] ANOTHER IMPORTANT FINDING IN OUR SURVEY RESULTS WAS THIS SENSE THAT WE GOT FROM RESIDENTS AROUND ABOUT THE NEED TO BALANCE IMPROVING EXISTING TRAILS WITH BUILDING NEW ONES.SIMILARLY WE ASK THE QUESTION AROUND THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE CONSERVING EXISTING ECOSYSTEMS. AS RELATED TO ACQUIRING US TO CONSERVE AND ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SAME PERCENTAGE SHOOK OUT AND SO IN THIS CASE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF RESIDENTS WHO WOULD SUPPORT. IMPROVING EXISTING TRAILS OVER BUILDING NEW ONES. WE'VE INTERPRETED THIS ALSO THOUGH TO MEAN THAT IT IT'S NOT A REFLECTION. OF GUIDANCE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO FOR EXAMPLE NOT BUILD SHELLS NECESSARILY BUT RATHER TO LOOK AT A PERCENTAGE IN TERMS OF FUNDING EMPHASIS. OR WORK EMPHASIS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER IN TERMS OF APPROACHING THIS FROM AN EXPECTED SURE YET.I'M

[19:00] ASSUMING YOUR COLORS ARE KIND OF THIS THEME COLOR SCHEME AS BOTH OPPOSE STRONGLY THAT. IS SO IN THIS CASE THE BROWN IS THOSE WHO STRONGLY SUPPORT THE IMPROVING EXISTING TRAILS AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE THOSE TO SUPPORT BUILDING NEW AND THIS IS CERTAIN.SO OUR REGION THE WAY WE ASK THE QUESTION EXACTLY.SO WE ASKED WHETHER ORSON O SNP SHOULD FOCUS MORE ON IMPROVING MAINTENANCE AND DESIGN OF EXISTING TRAILS IN. SO SOMALI HERE THE WAY WE ARE PRESENTING THIS DATA IS ON THE LEFT ARE THOSE WHO SUPPORTS OPPORTUNITY AREAS AND DAYS OF THE WEEK WHEN BIKING IS NOT ALLOWED. THOSE ON THE RIGHT ARE THOSE WHO

[20:00] SUPPORT TARGETED AREAS WHERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BIKING ARM PROVED. AGAIN JUST REITERATE THIS IS THE SERIES OF QUESTIONS WERE REALLY ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AND AARON HAS WAS VERY WISE TO GUIDE US. IN ENFORCING RESPONDENTS TO CHOOSE ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SO THEY WERE NOT FOR EXAMPLE ABLE TO PUT THEIR. SELECT THE BOX RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. AND NOW AS IT TOOK TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND THE PREFERENCES AND GET TO SOME OF THOSE HARD DECISIONS TO SCORE FOR THIS SURVEY EXPERT KAREN O R I THE BINKY IN HIS EYE. BUT ON THIS ONE YOU COULD. YOU COULD BE BOTH OF THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS ARE NOT THE DOOR IN THIS CASE LIKE IT MIGHT BE USEFUL TO BOTH PROVIDE GOOD OPPORTUNITIES BUT THEN. MAKE SURE THAT USES ARE SEPARATED IN TIME SO EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY THEM TILL THIS WHEN I GET THE TRADE OFF SAYING THIS

[21:00] DOESN'T MESS I HAVE TO BE A TRAIL RACE.I GUESS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BUT THIS IS HOW WE DID WANT TO SEE IF YOU HAD TO USE BETWEEN.IT WAS A TRAIT OF QUESTION HOW THIS ONE I WOULD LIKE THIS IS ONE TO DRILL DEEPER ON BECAUSE I THINK WE FIND THAT DOING BOTH IS FULL BY NOW. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT READ YET THEY'RE NOT YOURS IN THIS ARTICLE AND IF WE COULD FOLLOW UP I MEAN WE HAVE PLACES WHERE WE HAVE TEMPORAL. USES AND IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO DRILL INTO THOSE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ARE USING THOSE TRAILS LIKE THAT UH SO. WHERE YOU KNOW PEOPLE GO LET THE SHOW. EITHER FOR A BIKING EXPERIENCE OR THEY GO UP THERE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE BIKES AREN'T THERE AND IT MIGHT BE A GOOD BIRDING DAY OR SOMETHING. SO PEOPLE DO

[22:00] MAKE THOSE CHOICES AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER TRIALS WE HAVE FOR TEMPORAL TYPE USES BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WHERE PEOPLE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF THOSE PARTICULAR TRAILS.I WAS ACTUALLY A BOULDER COUNTY PARKS AND OPEN SPACE.I'M SURE PARTNERS THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INFORMATION THAT WE. THAT WAY.STRONG SUPPORT FOR THAT AND THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION AGAIN AARON TO MARRY HIM AND GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR HELPING US DEVELOP AND VERY INTELLIGENT SURVEY TOOL. BECAUSE WE ASK IT ANOTHER WAY WHERE WE SAY IF YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL HAD TO MAKE YOUR MIND UP AND CHANGE YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR.WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO GIVE UP SOME OF YOUR FREEDOM AND AND LIMIT YOUR ACTIVITIES TO CERTAIN DAYS OF THE WEEK.OR WOULD YOU RATHER CONTINUE DOING ACTIVITIES AS NEEDED EVEN THOUGH THAT MIGHT LEAD TO MORE CONFLICT AND IN THAT WAY WHEN WE ASKED IT THAT WAY THERE.THERE'S NOT AS CLEAR

[23:02] SUPPORT FOR THAT ANSWER TO US AGAIN THAT MEANS THAT WITH THAT FINDING AS WELL AS THESE.THERE'S NO PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO INTEGRATE AN ADDRESS THAT INTERPRET THESE AND SO I THINK. THE EYES AND I THINK YOUR POINT IS A GOOD ONE WHERE WE SEE THESE ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE NEAR THE MID LINE.I MEAN THIS IS ROUGHLY SIXTY FORTY BUT IT'S NOT SEVENTY THIRTY OR EIGHTY TWENTY.BUT TO US SOMETIMES THESE ARE.WE SEE THESE AS REFLECTION OF THE COMPLEXITY AND THAT THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS WERE SEEKING BOTH AND THAT THERE'S AN APPROACH THAT WE NEED BALANCE.DO WE HAVE JUST THE CITY HAVE ANY TEMPORAL TRAILS AT THIS POINT SOUP. WE'RE EXPLORING THAT WHEN MARK WOKE UP TO PAR IN TERMS OF THE MUDDY TRAIL CLOSURES CLOSURES TO HAVE IT IN.WELL YES ASKING ABOUT YOU SO LIKE THAT ALSO WHERE YOU HAVE IT OPEN ON CERTAIN DAYS JUST FOR

[24:00] BIKING AND OPEN ON CERTAIN DAYS JUST FOR HIKING.I KNOW WE'VE EXPLODED AS A CONCEPT IN THE NOTE EASY ANSWER YES OR NO.OK THANK YOU SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE ON BUT ALL THE SNOW TO SAY NO BITES AND BITES SHE GETS ONE IS REGULATED SHARING AND THE OTHER IS THE PRIMARY.WELL WHATEVER I'M JUST SAY IT'S YEAH IT'S ME IT'S ABOUT THE CONFLICT AND WHETHER THERE'S AN INCREASED EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH. NEW HALLADAY THAT YOU KNOW YOU CAN WRITE PRETTY FAST AND YOU KNOW IF THE HACKERS ARE FOREWARNED.HE'S ANNOYED OR VICE VERSA YOU CAN HIKE OR RUN WITHOUT THE SITE OUT YET. SO WE ALSO ASK THE QUESTION AROUND. THE EXTENT TO WHICH RESIDENTS OF PORTER POSE

[25:00] LETHAL CONTROL FOR PREY POPULATIONS SPECIFICALLY ON OR NEAR IRRIGATED FARMLAND WHEN OTHER MANAGEMENT APPROACHES HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. AND SO THESE ARE THE RESULTS AND SO IN THIS CASE ARE LOOKING AT FIFTY NINE PERCENT OF RESIDENTS TO EITHER SUPPORTED OR STRONGLY SUPPORTED AND FORTY ONE WHO EITHER OPPOSE OR STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT.WE ALSO HAVE THAT BROKEN UP YOUR INFORMATION IN TERMS OF CITY RESIDENTS AS COMPARED TO THOSE IN AREAS TWO AND THREE. THEY'RE FAIRLY SIMILAR BUT WITH SOME DIFFERENCE IN SO IN THIS CASE AREAS. TO ITS RESIDENTS IN AREAS TWO AND THREE ARE SOMEWHAT MORE LIKELY TO SUPPORT OR STRONGLY SUPPORT WITH THE CONTROL UNDER THOSE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES.SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER THE WAYS THAT WE ARE USING AT THIS INITIAL POINT.THE SURVEY FINDINGS IS DEVELOPING

[26:00] THE DRAFT MASTER PLAN THAT WILL RELEASE FOR REVIEW NEXT WEEK. AND SO BY WAY OF EXAMPLE WE SAW STRONG SUPPORT FOR CLOSING DESIGNATED TRAILS AND SENSITIVE HABITAT AREAS IN FACT EIGHTY NINE PERCENT OF RESIDENTS SUPPORTED IN CONCEPT. ANSWER TO US THAT REALLY AFFIRMS AND HELPED US REFINE THE DRAFT STRATEGY THAT WE HAD IN REFERENCE TO THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC. SIMILARLY ANY NINE PERCENT SUPPORT EXTENDING ON TRIAL REQUIREMENTS INTO SENSITIVE HABITAT AREAS AND EIGHTY SIX PERCENT SUPPORTED STRONGLY SUPPORT TEMPORARY TRAIL CLOSURES TO PROTECT WILDLIFE AND HABITATS. AND SO AGAIN STRONG FINDINGS TO THE LAKE THAT WAS NOT CHANGED TO REALLY BOLSTER THIS THE DRAFT STRATEGIES THAT WE HAD. SO MUCH IN EARLY THE SIMILAR SPLIT HERE AND I AM TO JUST BE UP A LITTLE DETOUR TO RESPECT OR TIME. AND THAT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO WOULD IN A CASE OF HAVING TO BE FORCED. TO SUPPORT MORE STRONGLY SUPPORT IMPROVING EXISTING HEALTH AN EXISTING LAND IS AS RELATED TO ACQUIRING NEW LAND.I WANT

[27:03] THIS KIND OF INFORMATION HELPS US DO IS DEVELOP OUR DRAFT FUNDING PRIORITIES AS WE THINK ABOUT. ESPECIALLY OF THE NEAR FUTURE WHERE OUR FUNDING IS STARTING TO DECLINE AS SALES SECOND INCREMENTS ARE EITHER EXPIRING OR BEING REPRESSED. WE ALSO ASKED ANOTHER QUESTION IN RELATION TO FUNDING PRIORITIES AND IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THE SURVEY QUESTION IT WAS A HUNDRED DOLLAR EXERCISE. IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO SPEND ACROSS A SET OF SUBJECTIVITY IS HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT. THESE FINDINGS ARE FROM THIS DISC LEAST VALID SURVEY ONLY. IN WHICH CASE THE TOP THREE AGAIN WE'RE RESTORING DEGRADED ECOSYSTEMS AND WILDLIFE HABITAT ANGELES' OF THAT SCENE OF SUPPORT FOR HAVING SEEN THE SHOW STRONGLY ANOTHER QUESTION. AND CLOSE BEHIND AT MAINTAINING IMPROVING TRAILS AND AMENITIES AND ACQUIRING MORE OPEN SPACE IN THIS CASE SHOWED UP AS THE THIRD HIGHEST FOR THESE RESULTS.

[28:00] WHERE'S THAT DID SURE THE HANG OF THE IMMEDIATE SLIDE BEHIND THAT SAID THOUGH LUKEWARM BUT IN THIS FOR PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR MANY AND I WAS CAN ASK YOU UM. THE PROMISE SURVEY QUESTIONS AND GO INTO IT.NO I WASN'T REAL THRILLED WITH SOME OF THEM BUT UM IS IS THAT YOU CAN'T GET INTO EVERY SINGLE SITUATION RIGHT.SO IF YOU HAVE TEN THOUSAND ACRES NEAR ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ACRES.IF YOU HAVE TEN THOUSAND ACRES OF OPEN SPACE AND SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IS A HUNDRED AND THIRTY ACRES.DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE ACQUIRED ITS OPEN SPACE OR DO YOU WANT THAT DEVELOP.I THINK YOU WOULD GET A VERY DIFFERENT QUESTION OF DIFFERENT DIFFERENT RESPONSE. THE OTHER INTERESTING THING ABOUT ACQUISITIONS IS ACQUISITIONS COULD SOMETIMES BE REALLY STRATEGIC MANAGEMENT TO ALL RIGHT. SO YOU MAY NOT THINK OF IT IN THE SAME WAY OF DOLING OUT THE SYSTEM BUT ONE FOR RESTORING THIS WHOLE TEN MILE. STRETCH OF CREEK AND AS A MILE WE DON'T MANAGE WE MAY WANT TO DO. AN ACQUISITION TO HELP IMPROVE OUR MANAGEMENT

[29:00] REGIME SO IT ACTUALLY COULD BE A MANAGEMENT TOOL AS WELL WHICH WOULD GO COED CLASS WITH THE IDEA TO DO BETTER MANAGEMENT UNDER EXISTING SYSTEM.WELL THAT MIGHT MEAN SOME ACQUISITIONS AS I RESEARCH IT CAN HELP SUPPORT THE MANAGEMENT RIGHT SO IT IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO CHINA. AND WEAVER UNTANGLE THE DAY IT'S THE SECOND SHOTS SLIDE SHOWS THEY'RE BOTH REALLY HIGH PRIORITY FOIA. ABSOLUTELY AND WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY AND RESPOND TO THIS EFFECT AGAIN THIS WOULD BE WHERE WE MIGHT LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL IN JUNE. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT APPROPRIATELY. ALSO WANT TO WRAP UP WITH THE FINDINGS AROUND SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION IN RELATION TO THE POTENTIAL SALES TAX AND THIS CAN HELP SUSTAIN FORWARD IN TERMS OF OUR FINANCIAL SCENARIOS. IN THIS CASE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF CITY RESIDENTS ONLY. THE STRONG PERCENTAGE OF

[30:00] NINETY TWO PERCENT OF CITY RESIDENTS WOULD EITHER SUPPORT OR STRONGLY SUPPORT THE RESTORATION OF THAT FUNDING WAS THE QUESTION IS DID THE CUP QUESTION EXPLAIN THE CURRENT SITUATION AS ME. OKAY YEAH I MEAN THERE WAS ONE OF ALL THE POLLS WE'VE TAKEN OF ALL THE SURVEYS. THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS BINGING BINGING BINGING COMES IN AT NINETY TO NINETY FOUR PERCENT OR SO AND THAT PULLED THE STRONGEST WITH ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS LIBRARY A CARBON TAX ANY OF THESE TAXES SO INTERESTING.THANK YOU FOR THE LAST PIECE IN RELATION TO THAT WE ASKED A FOLLOW QUESTION IN TERMS. OF WHETHER OR NOT RESIDENTS WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO SUPPORT THE TAX IF IT WERE TO EXPIRE. AS OPPOSED TO WHETHER IT WOULD EXPIRE IN SIGHT IT WOULD NOT EXPIRE AS COMPARED TO EXPIRE IN TEN OR FEWER YEARS AND THERE IS SLIGHTLY MORE SUPPORT FOR. IT NOT

[31:05] EXPIRING BEING IN PERPETUITY LIKE A SORE NOSE A LOT OF INFORMATION I'D. OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND HIS ONLY ANSWER WHAT WE CAN LOVE ME WELL OR I MEAN. WE COULD SUCK A LOT ABOUT THIS BUT WE'RE GOING TO TELL US ABOUT THE CONVERSATION WHEN HAVING THREE WEEKS AND WILL KNOW HOW MANY WE'D ASK QUESTIONS TO MAKE SURE. THE CONVERSATION IN A FEW WEEKS IS MORE FOCUSED ON. THE DRAFT OUT COMES THE STRATEGIES AND THE FUNDING PRIORITIES. THAT WE PROVIDED IN AS ATTACHMENTS TO THE PACKET THAT WE SENT YOU. SO THAT IS REALLY WE'RE HOPING MORE OF THE CONSTANT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE REPORTING COUNCIL SO THAT WE DEVELOP THE TRUE POLICY GUIDANCE THAT WE NEED. AND AND THIS DATA IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS CONVERSATION SO. OKAY SO TONIGHT WHAT IS GOING TO ASK QUESTION TO READ. DON'T UNDERSTAND THE DATA WERE WHEN I CAN ACTUALLY TELL YOU WHAT WE THINK OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE DRAFT PLAN.YES SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATA. WAS NOT A QUESTION

[32:00] AS TO SAY THIS IS VERY HELPFUL SO I THINK YOU KNOW A LOT OF US WORKED HARD ON ON. THIS QUESTION JUST RIGHT I THINK THIS CAN BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL AS WE MOVE IN AND CLAIM PROCESS OF THINKING. SO I'M BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION YOU TALKED ABOUT UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY CENTER AND YOU LISTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM.I FOLLOWED THE LOGIC UNTIL THE LAST MONTH PRINTERS AND WHY ARE THEY IN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND THE DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY OF BOULDER.SO WHY ARE THEY AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.HOW ARE THE UNDERSERVED.SO WE LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF UNDER SERVED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS WE TYPICALLY FIND IT'S DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE THAT PARTICULAR SEGMENT OF OUR LARGER COMMUNITY MEMBERS. IN PART BECAUSE HER PREFERENCES IN TERMS OF HOW TO ENGAGE IN SO I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND SO IN

[33:01] THE KEYS. FOR FOR THIS PARTICULAR OCCASION WINDOW WE SENT AN EMAIL TO OUR LESS EASE AND JUST MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO. RESPOND IN THE ONLINE SURVEY AND THAT WAS THE INTENT AND THAT'S JUST FINE BUT I HEARD THAT TERM COME UP THE OTHER NINE A AT THE LOIS P T. AND I THINK IT'S A REAL INSULT TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE UM. WHO TRADITIONALLY ARE THOUGHT OF AS UNDERSERVED AND WHO DO FACE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE. AND SO I THINK I THINK YOU NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL IN HOW YOU AND USE THAT TERM.I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE AND IF I WERE ONE OF THOSE REAL UNDERSERVED GROUPS.I WOULD FEEL LIKE I JUST TAKE IT HOME IT BE LIKE A SLAP IN THE FACE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY REGARDING THAT I JUST GLANCED

[34:00] AT I DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE THING IN DEPTH BUT IT WAS ABOUT HOW COUNTY AGRICULTURAL REVENUES HAVE BEEN DECLINING VERY STEEPLY.THERE IS A GRAPH THAT WAS SHOWN.SO THERE ARE ISSUES WITHIN THEIR GROUP OF PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF HOW ONE TERM SAID WHERE THEY ARE SEEING DECLINES AND THEY WERE STEEP. AND IT WAS JUST TWO DAYS OR SO AGO ON THE DAILY CAMERA. BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO HELP I WOULD THINK REFERENCE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AS WELL. IN JUST OVER A LITTLE BIT OF POINTLESS I MEAN WHETHER THE WORKERS UNDER. UNDER SERVED OR JUST NOT HEARD FROM VERY OFTEN. I THINK IT IS WORTH. IT FOR NOT HEARING FROM A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE. NO CARE MUCH ABOUT THESE ISSUES IT'S WORKED EVERY CHANCE I THINK THAT'S IT'S LAUDABLE THAT HE DID THAT AND MAYBE THE LANGUAGES OF ALL QUITE PERFECT BUT TOTALLY AGREE.YES BUT IT WAS FOR TWO AND YET WITH MARK.IT'S GREAT FEEDBACK

[35:00] FROM YOU AND OPEN SPACE AND THAT HE USED AT HOME SO I DON'T THINK THAT SOMEONE.MY ONLY COMMENT IS FREE FLEES WITH THANKS TO THE PROCESSOR ON THE SURVEY BECAUSE I DO THINK IT WAS USEFUL.THANK TO OUR SUBCOMMITTEE AND HATEFUL IDIOCY THE COMMUTE FURTHER QUESTIONS MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THE WEDDING AND EVERYONE BUT WE ALL GOT TO GIVE OUR INPUT AND THAT. I THINK WAS THANK YOU FOR THAT THIS WILL BE A FLANK ANYTHING ELSE. THEY DID HAVE AND I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT HERE WAS THIS WHOLE USE OF PESTICIDES. AND HERBICIDES AND I DON'T THINK DID YOU YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT IN THIS PRESENTATION. WE DID NOT SCAN AND I DON'T EVEN RECALL SEEING IT IN THE LITTLE REPORT BUT THAT'S OKAY AT ME. I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW DID THAT COME OUR SCH ARE ABSOLUTELY AND WE DID AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE PACKET WAS SENT OUT WITH AN OUTCOME A CHEAT SHEET WITH THE IDEA.YES

[36:00] IF YOU LOOK AT QUESTION TWENTY AND SO ON.IF YOU ADD THOSE WHO EITHER SUPPORT OR STRONGLY SUPPORT THOSE AGAIN AND IN THOSE LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES.IT'S FORTY ONE PERCENT TO FORTY FOUR PERCENT SUPPORT FOR STRONGER SUPPORT VERSUS THE FIFTY SIX.WE THANK YOU TO OPPOSE OR STRONGLY OPPOSE TO FINISH THIS SENTENCE IT SUPPOSED USE OF. OK SORRY THE QUESTION WE ASKED IT IN WHEN OTHER MANAGEMENT APPROACHES HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL CONTROLLING AGGRESSIVE INVASIVE WEEDS THE DAMAGE NATURAL HABITATS. HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE INTEGRATING THE TARGETED USE OF SYNTHETIC CHEMICAL SPRAYS HERBICIDES. INTO THE WATER MANAGEMENT APPROACH EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR HEALTH AND OTHER SPECIES THAT WAS FORTY FOUR TO FORTY FOUR WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT OR SUPPORT.

[37:14] COMPARED TO FIFTY SIX WHO WOULD OPPOSE CUTTING THOUGHT HE I APPRECIATE YOU INCLUDING ALL THE QUESTIONS. THEY ARE A GOOD DATE WILL THANK YOU SO MUCH SAME. TIME THE WEEKS AND I'M HOPING THOUGH TONIGHT I'M MAYA I POSTED A HOTLINE YESTERDAY OR TODAY ADAM SOME TIME AND I SAID I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OPEN SPACE TAX. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BALLOT ISSUES TONIGHT.SO UM I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY CAN BE SEEN TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE UM I'M SORRY.

[38:18] HERE I THINK I'M HARDLY EVER SEEM TO PULL THIS STRONG NEED TO APOLOGIZE THE LENSES AND ASKED ME IF YOU ARE YOUNG WE ONLY DO THOSE. THE SHOPS THE PA.HI EVERYONE A QUICK BREAK OR NOT I'VE WRITTEN TO A PET DIES WITH THE WAY I'M KINDER TOPHER AND ACHIEVE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER AND I AM JOINED. BY CAROLYN EELAM KIMBERLY RING KEN AND LAUREN MARC ROME OFTEN THE US DEPARTMENT OF CLIMATE INITIATIVES. ARE HERE TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE PROPOSED VEHICLE CLIMATE FEE AND NATURAL GAS TAX A KNIFE.SO THESE ARE

[39:02] THE QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO INDY TELL AT THE END. THAT HOT AT A HIGH LEVEL WE'RE ASKING OF COUNCIL SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. AROUND DEVELOPING AND TWENTY NINETEEN BALLOT MEASURE TO MODIFY THE EXISTING CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX TO COVER NATURAL GAS. AND ITS STAFF SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE VEHICLE CLIMATE TV FOR A FUTURE COUNCIL VOTE AGAIN WILL COME BACK TO THE IS. INDEED HEALTHY AND SO LITTLE BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT HERE WE FIRST STARTED THIS DISCUSSION FORMALLY WITH COUNCIL LAST OCTOBER AT A STUDY SESSION. WHERE RESURFACE THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE DECLINING CAP TAX REVENUES THAT ARE INSUFFICIENT TO MEET THE CURRENT CLIMATE COMMITMENT GOALS THAT WERE ADOPTED IN LEE TWENTY SIXTEEN.WE EVALUATED A NUMBER OF OPTIONS TO BRIDGE THAT GAP IN THE OCTOBER TWENTY EIGHTEEN MEMO. AND RECEIVE GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL TO PURSUE THE TWO THAT ROSE TO THE TOP AND THAT WAS A PROPOSED VEHICLE CLIMATE FEET AND NATURAL GAS TAX. SO

[40:03] THE FUNDING FROM EITHER ONE OF THOSE WOULD COVER THE COST OF COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAMS AND POLICIES AIMED AT REDUCING EMISSIONS RELATIVE TO NATURAL GAS AND TRANSPORTATION FUEL. SO THE GOOD NEWS TO START OUT WITH IS THAT OUR EXISTING CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX. HAS BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL ON THE TABLE THAT YOU SEE HERE SHOWS THE PROGRESS TO DATE AGAINST THE CITY'S ADOPTED CLIMATE COMMITMENT GOALS. AND THE COMMUNITY HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENTS WE'VE REDUCED EMISSIONS SIXTEEN PERCENT SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND FIVE EVEN AS THE ECONOMY AND POPULATION HAS GROWN. AND WE'VE INSTALLED OVER FIFTY MEGAWATTS OF LOCAL RENEWABLE GENERATION ON THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE STATE HAS JUST PASSED.REALLY A LANDMARK SIGN OF CLIMATE AND ENERGY BILLS.SO ESTABLISHING STATE EMISSION REDUCTION TARGETS FOR THE FIRST TIME EXPANDING SOLAR GARDEN CAPACITY IN EXTENDING THE TAX CREDITS IMPROVING AND STRENGTHENING FUNDING AND PROGRAMS FOR E V CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. AND

[41:03] ALSO KIND OF A SURPRISING ONE AROUND ON THE UTILITIES COMMISSION'S OVERSIGHT INCLUDING A SOCIAL COST OF CARBON THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE RESOURCE PLANNING SO. REALLY KIND OF AN AMAZING WEDGES YEARS FOR OUR STATE LESS THE KIND OF THE HOME. THROUGH THE CHALLENGE OF ALL WERE CELEBRATING ALL THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS SOME ARE ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THE BULK OF THE WORK IS STILL AHEAD. AND SO WE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE TODAY THE CURRENT STATUS AND THE TARGETS THAT WE HAVEN'T HARMED HOW FAR WE STILL NEED TO GO.SO FOR EXAMPLE IF WE CONSIDER OUR EMISSIONS REDUCTION TARGET OF REDUCING EMISSIONS EIGHTY PERCENT BY TWENTY FIFTY CENTER BASELINE YEAR. WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT ONE POINT THREE PERCENT EMISSIONS REDUCTION PER YEAR. IF WE'RE GOING TO METER TWENTY THIRTY TARGET OF FIFTY PERCENT EMISSIONS REDUCTION. THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO ACCELERATE TO SLIGHTLY OVER THREE PERCENT PER YEAR SO MORE THAN DOUBLE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.THIS SEEMS

[42:04] DAUNTING BUT WE THINK. BETWEEN THE COMBINATION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM ONE OF THESE SOURCES AS WELL AS THE SUPPORTIVE STATE LEGISLATURE THAT HAS JUST BEEN PASSED WE THINK THIS IS ACHIEVABLE. ON THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT HERE. IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A CHART THAT SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN FROM OUR MOST RECENT GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY AND TWENTY SEVEN TEAM. AND THIS SHOWS THAT EVEN IF WE WERE TO ACHIEVE A ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY.HOPEFULLY THROUGH A LOCAL ELECTRIC UTILITY. THAT WOULD ONLY TACKLE HALF OF THE EMISSIONS THAT ARE IN OUR CURRENT INVENTORY AND SO ONCE A COMMUNITY DOES ACHIEVE A ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY. THE CONTRIBUTION FOR NATURAL GAS IN TRANSPORTATION FUELS IS OVER NINETY FIVE PERCENT. AS OF THIS JUST KIND OF MAKES THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO TACKLE THE EMISSIONS FROM THESE SOURCES. IN PARALLEL WITH THE EFFORTS TO REACH ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY. FOR ALL

[43:00] OF THESE REASONS WE'VE INVESTIGATED THE TWO OPTIONS TO HELP BRIDGE THE GAP. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THIS IN A LOT MORE TO TELL HIM LATER ON BUT. AT A HIGH LEVEL THIS IS HOW THE FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR EACH OF THE OPTIONS AND BASED ON THE SUCCESS OF THE CAP TAX. WE'VE LEARNED WHAT THINGS WORK TASKS SUCH AS OUR PROGRESSIVE ENERGY CODES AND BENCHMARKING REQUIREMENTS. AND HOW TO LEVERAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND WE PLAN TO SCALE WHAT'S WORKED BUT ALSO ADD KEY NEW ELEMENTS. SUCH AS MIDSTREAM INCENTIVES FOR ELECTRIC HEAT PUMPS PAY FOR PERFORMANCE PROGRAMS FOR SOLAR AND IT'S. REALLY IMPORTANT LEAD TO START REALLY TACKLING CARBON SEEK RESTORATION PROGRAM SO. IT'S NOT ENOUGH ANYMORE JUST TO MITIGATE THE EMISSIONS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PULL THE CARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE THAT'S ALREADY THERE. AND SO A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS AND THAT PROCESS HAS REALLY HELPED INFORM. THE PROPOSED SCOPE THE STRUCTURE RATE OPTIONS EXEMPTIONS AND USE OF FUNDING THAT WERE IN THE MEMO.WE ALSO

[44:08] CAN TOUCH CONDUCT A STATISTICALLY VALID VOTER SURVEY WHICH WAS ASKING ABOUT GENERAL CARBON PRICING VIEWPOINTS AND ALSO SPECIFICALLY ON RESPONDENTS SUPPORT FOR THE VEHICLE CLIMATE FEE OR NATURAL GAS TAX.BOTH HAD FAIRLY HIGH LEVELS OF SUPPORT ALTHOUGH NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT WE JUST SAW IT. WITH THE NATURAL GAS TAX PULLING SLIGHTLY HIGHER AT SEVENTY PERCENT STRONGLY SUPPORT OR SUPPORT VERSUS SIXTY FOUR PERCENT FOR THE VEHICLE CRIME DEFEATED. ON AS WE CONDUCTED THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ENDED FURTHER ANALYSIS ON THE OBVIOUS OPTIONS A NUMBER OF KEY ISSUES ROSE THE TOP. AND THESE ISSUES DROVE MUCH OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ON THE SCOPE THE RATES THE EXEMPTIONS.SO ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES AS THE NEED TO BALANCE REVENUE NEEDS WITH THE ECONOMIC BURDEN OF TOTAL TAXES AND FEES ON BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS.ANOTHER IS TO

[45:00] BETTER ADDRESS EQUITY IN BOTH EXISTING AND FUTURE CLIMATE RELATED TAXES BOTH IN HOW WE STRUCTURE THAN AND HOW WE USE THE FUNDS COLLECTED. THE NEED TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL FOSSIL FUELS.SO CURRENTLY ONLY ELECTRICITY HAS A CLAIM A TAX BUT NOT NATURAL GAS OR GASOLINE. ON THE NEED TO CONSIDER THE TIMING OF ANY CLIMATE RELATED BALLOT MEASURE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE UPCOMING MUNICIPAL IS A SIAN VOTE AND A KEY ISSUE THAT WAS SPECIFIC TO THE VEHICLE FEE.THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY. HAD IT I THINK THE MOST ISSUE WITH. IS THAT THERE'S NOT A WAY TO APPLY IT IN COMMUTERS AND IT DOESN'T REFLECT MILEAGE DRIVEN SO THOSE WERE KIND OF HOT SPOTS ON OUR ONE. AND A KEY ISSUE WITH THE NATURAL GAS TAXES HOW CAN WE STRUCTURE IT TO FAIRLY ASSESS A TAX ON ARE REALLY HIGH GAS USERS THAT HAVE PROCESS LOADS.UM AND DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE COMMERCIALLY VIABLE ELECTRIC ALTERNATIVES FOR THOSE AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LOT MORE TO TELL ME GET. INTO

[46:02] NATURAL GAS TAX IN A MINUTE TURN IT OVER TO KIM TO GIVE SOME MORE DEETS ON THE PROPOSED VEHICLE CLIMATE THE THINK YOU MEAN. THE VEHICLE CLIMBING FEE WOULD BE TIED TO THE EFFICIENCY OF A VEHICLE. AS INDICATED BY THE MPG RATING THAT VEHICLE HAS AND WOULD BE APPLIED AT THAT TIME OF THE ANNUAL REGISTRATION OR RENEWAL EACH YEAR. AS YOU SAW ON ROAD TRANSPORTATION WILL MAKE UP OVER FIFTY PERCENT OF OUR MISSIONS INVENTORY FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE AND DESPITE REPORTED REDUCTIONS OF SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLE. TRIPS THE COMMUNITY IS CURRENTLY NOT ON TRACK TO MEET OUR EMISSIONS REDUCTION GOALS OR OUR VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED OR BMT REDUCTION GOALS. IN THIS TRANSPORTATION SECTOR SO THAT THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK AND INVESTMENT REQUIRED TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THIS SECTOR AND ACHIEVE THESE TARGETS. REDUCING VEHICLE

[47:00] MILES TRAVELED AND EMISSIONS FROM THE SECTOR IS HISTORICALLY BEEN ONE OF THE LARGEST CHALLENGES OF OUR CLIMATE COMMITMENT BECAUSE IT REQUIRES TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE. ON INDIVIDUAL PURCHASING HABITS AND COMMUTING METHODS AND SO WITH THAT WE KNOW THIS FEE IS NOT WITHOUT ITS CHALLENGES.EVEN WITH OVER SIXTY PERCENT SUPPORT FROM OUR SURVEYED. SURVEYED TOM SURVEY RESPONDENTS SOME OF THESE CHALLENGES THAT HAVE RISEN INCLUDE THE EXCLUSION OF IN COMMUTERS ASK AND ARE REFERENCED IN THESE KEY ISSUES IDENTIFIED. THE LOGISTICS OF IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS FEE WOULD BE VERY COMPLICATED AND IT'S UNLIKELY THIS FEE WOULD INFLUENCE BEHAVIOR.THE STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THESE CHALLENGES THEY REFLECT COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT MAY DAMPEN SUPPORT. EARLIER THIS YEAR AND NEXT A STUDY WAS COMPLETED ON THE FIELD THE RESULTS ARE SHOWN HERE AS WELL AS IN MORE DETAIL IN THE MEMO AND THE ATTACHMENT G. BUT THE STUDY IDENTIFIED THAT THE FULL ANNUAL FEE FOR AN AVERAGE VEHICLE SHOULD BE AROUND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX DOLLARS ENOUGH TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT.CURRENTLY

[48:03] THE AVERAGE REGISTRATION FEE IN THE CITY OF BOULDER IS AROUND ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE DOLLARS. SO THAT TWO ND AND FIFTY SIX IS DEEMED A PRETTY UNREASONABLE AMOUNT AND THEREFORE THE FEE WAS SCALED DOWN TO TWO MORE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF AROUND FORTY TWO DOLLARS. AND AROUND SIXTEEN DOLLARS FOR AN AVERAGE VEHICLE. AND STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THE MINIMAL FEE OF SIXTEEN DOLLARS BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY ONLY PROVIDES AROUND SEVEN PERCENT OF THE FINDING NEEDS COMPARED TO THE COSTS OF ADMINISTRATION AND IMPLEMENTATION. TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THESE PROPOSED THE SCENARIO STAFF MODELED SEVERAL EXAMPLES FOR VARIOUS VEHICLE TYPES. ATTACHMENT A PROVIDES ADDITIONAL CONTEXT ON BUT THIS FEE IMPACT LOOKS LIKE TWO RESIDENTS RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING SUSTAINABILITY RELATED TAXES AND FEES CURRENTLY IN PLACE. BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE HIGHER MPG OR MORE EFFICIENT VEHICLE IS THE LAST. ON THE LOWER

[49:01] THE FEE S. AND SO THE FEES ARE RANGING ANYWHERE FROM THIRTY DOLLARS A YEAR TO THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR DEPENDING ON THE SCENARIO AND THE VEHICLE TYPE. I WOULD NOTE THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE FEE THEY RECEIVE AN EXEMPTION AND I'LL DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT A COUPLE OF SITES. IN GENERAL THE FUNDING PLANS FOR THIS FEE ARE LISTED HERE. ATTACHMENT HE HAS MUCH MORE DETAIL ON THE QUANTIFIED FUNDING AMOUNTS THAN ANTICIPATED OUTCOMES. BUT OVERALL THESE PROGRAMS POLICIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE LISTED HERE DEMONSTRATE HOW THE REVENUES WOULD TACKLE DRIVING LESS ELECTRIFYING VEHICLES AND REDUCING TAIL PIPE EMISSIONS. LOOKING AT A MODERATE FEE SCENARIO WHERE THE AVERAGE VEHICLE WOULD PAY AROUND FORTY TWO DOLLARS A YEAR. THESE REVENUES WOULD FIND OVERARCHING EFFORTS IN POLICY DEVELOPMENT AND OUTREACH AS WELL AS FINDING ONE ADDITIONAL ASKED HE TO SUPPORT THESE PROGRAMS AND WOULD FIND SPECIFIC PROGRAMS AND POLICIES. RELATING TO

[50:05] SUPPLEMENT IN TRANSIT PASSES SIMPLY CASH OUT PROGRAMS RESTORING TRANSIT SERVICE TO TEN MINUTE INTERVALS FOR SELECT ROUTES AND INSTALLING ADDITIONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. SUCH AS TWO HUNDRED LEVEL TWO CHARGING STATIONS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. OBVIOUSLY HIGHER OR LOWER FEE WOULD INFLUENCE THE FUNDING AMOUNTS AND THE OUTCOMES ANTICIPATED AND I WOULD NOTE THAT THESE REVENUES FROM THIS FEE. ADDRESS ON THE VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S TOTAL UNFUNDED NEEDS AND SPECIFICALLY ONLY THOSE RELATED TO THE PEAK URBANIZATION OF TRANSPORTATION. SAID THE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING PRIORITIES AND INVESTMENT NEEDS. AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AFTER JUNE EIGHTEENTH SESSION AS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN UPDATE.HE USES

[51:01] FOR THESE USES FOR IT AND THAT WE REFLECT ON THE EQUITY FOCUS FOR THE INTERIM QUESTION HAPPEN TO YOUR TRACKING UM ADOPTION OF ELECTRIC HYBRID VEHICLES IN TOW.YES WE ARE TO HEAT UP A LITTLE. LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT BUT THE TREND THAT YOU KNOW. WHAT PEACE IS THAT IT HAPPENS I KNOW WHAT THE INCENTIVES TAX WOULD PRESUME WOULD TRY TO DRIVE USERS PHONE NUMBER SO I AM WOULD BE. MOTIVATING PEOPLE TO LOOK TO GO TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES SOONER FASTER CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. TRYING TO ALTER THE TAX WOULD GO AWAY RIGHT BECAUSE IF IT WAS THE TREE BECAUSE THE DRUGS OFTEN BREAK THE TAX WOULD WE EXACTLY TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW. I ALTERNATE OVER TO LAUREN OR CALVIN IF THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS TO SAY BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS. WHAT WITH THE ADOPTION RATE OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON NEW PURCHASES HAVE TO BE. IN TWENTY THIRTY TO BE ON TRACK WITH OUR GOALS AND IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE OVER SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF

[52:00] YOU HAVE TO USE MY TOE. RING UP SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT TO TWENTY THIRTY AND A HUNDRED PERCENT BY TWENTY FIFTY ARE THE ASSUMPTIONS. USED FOR THE NEW VEHICLE PURCHASES AND RIGHT NOW IT'S LESS THAN FIVE PERCENT. ARE WE TRACKING IS A FIVE OR SEVEN HOURS OF TREKKING. WE ARE TRACKING A TERRIFIC SESSION ONLY IS IT IS ACCELERATING UP BUT NOT AT THE READY TO HIT SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT TO TWENTY THIRD. WE WANTED TO ACCELERATE WILL QUICKLY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ELECTRIC VEHICLES AREN'T THEY ESSENTIALLY CALLED VEHICLES RIGHT NOW. NO EVEN WITH TODAY'S EMISSIONS MIX THERE IS SAVINGS TODAY I THINK IT'S ABOUT TWENTY PERCENT COMPARED TO TWENTY FOUR MPG VEHICLE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE EVEN CHARGED OFF EXCELS GOOD TODAY SAVES EMISSIONS.SO SORRY TO ALL

[53:05] THE CUSHIONS BUT. I HAD A QUESTION IN EITHER ROUTE YOU KIMBER ARE KENDRA YOU'D SPOKEN ABOUT THE AVERAGE REGISTRATION FEE FOR A VEHICLE ON AN ANNUAL FEE. AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT WITH OLDER CARS YOU REGISTRATION FEE GOES DOWN SO HAVE YOU HAD AND THOSE WHO WANTS THAT ARE EMITTING MORE I WOULD ASSUME AND ERM.AND SO HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE COUNTY AT ALL ABOUT. ASKING THEM TO LOOK IT REGISTRATION FEES WITH RESPECT TO THE YEAR OF THE CAR AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK JUST A QUESTION I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR IT.IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS SET UP TO REWARD YOU FOR HAVING AN OLDER CAR JUST BASED ON THE REGISTRATION FEE.SO THAT'S ACTUALLY

[54:04] THE OWNERSHIP TAX NOT THE REGISTRATION FEE. AND THAT IS SET FORTH IN STATE LEGISLATURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY YEAR WOULD PAY EVERY YUP YOU PAY A COMBINATION YOU PAY. THE COUNTY BILLS YOU AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF REGISTRATION FEE IS. UM OWNERSHIP TAX AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER THERE'S LIKE THE BRIDGE HE HOLDS OLD AGE TAX. ADDED AROUND LIKE TEN DOLLARS ADDED ONTO IF IT'S OVER A DECADE TENURE FRESH YOU KNOW AND THEN A FIFTY DOLLARS FEE IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PAYING AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE OF ROAD MEAN RUDE SEE THE GAS TAX SO IT'S A SQ.IT'S IT'S A REALLY COMPLICATED IN THAT SLEIGH WHEN KIM WAS SAYING THE LOGISTICS OF IMPLEMENTING THIS ONE ARE COMPLEX IN DEALING WITH.

[55:02] THE STATE RULES THE COUNTY RULES THEIR FEE SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE SYSTEMS THEIR COLLECTION SYSTEMS AND HAVING TO CHANGE AND INFLUENCE ALL OF THOSE UM YES. JUST A CLARIFICATION I THOUGHT BOB ASKED ABOUT HYBRID VEHICLES AND YOU ANSWERED WITH ELECTRIC SORRY TELL US ABOUT PLUG IN HYBRIDS.OKAY MOM SUE THE STATS A GIVER FOR PLUG IN ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT INCLUDES ELECTRIC AND PLUG IN ELECTRIC HYBRIDS.I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STATS FOR HYBRIDS NOT WE MONITOR. THE GAME HONORING THAT AS CLOSELY AS WE HAVE TV UNPLUG AND HYDRA LIKE THE UNITY OF THE IF IF YOU WANT TO FORGE WHICH OF THE BUILDINGS TO THE NEW. TRACK ITS REGISTRATION THE YEAR WE HAVE THAT AS BEST WE CAN START INCLUDING THAT OF WHATEVER DATA TRACKING METRICS TO THE SIDE OF THAT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW GOING FOR.THANKS FOR ALL OF MY CAUTION TO THE MOTOR ON.OH NO WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION SIR.SO WHAT LEE SAYS SAYING

[56:05] IS TRUE WHEN YOU HAVE AN OLDER CAR YOU'RE PAYING LESS AND YOU HAVE LOWER GAS MILEAGE.YOU MIGHT SAY THAT MOM SOMETIMES PEOPLE BUY THOSE CARS BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE AFFORDABLE FRONT SO THEY HAVE ONGOING COSTS.IT'S A TRADE UP SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THIS KIND OF TAX.IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY YES THAN NO BECAUSE THE THIRTEEN YEAR OLD HONDA CIVIC IS GOING TO HAVE A MUCH BETTER MPG THAN A BRAND NEW PICKUP TRUCK ORDERS SUV.AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IT LASTS IN THE CLIMATE THE BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE EPA RATED MPG AND A HONDA CIVIC.YOU KNOW TEN YEARS AGO

[57:00] WAS STILL REALLY GOOD SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY. IT DOESN'T AGREED THE MPG OVER TIME BY HAVING AN OLDER CAR LIKE THE OWNERSHIP TAX AS IT'S A SPACE AND THE EPA RATED AND TAKING AND WHAT MARY SAID THE OLDER CARS.ALSO THEY MAY HAVE HIGHER EMISSIONS ARE NOT COSTING WHAT IT TAKES IN TERMS OF ENERGY TO BUILD A NEW CAR WHICH IS HUGE.WE THINK AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE FOOTY FOCUS GROUP WAS THIS ISSUE OF EMBODIED ENERGY OF CARSON ARE WE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BUY NEW CARS. AND THAT IS REFLECTED IN WE WON WE ARE ADDING HOW TO USE THE FUNDS FROM THE PLAN. WE ADDED REDUCING TAIL PIPE EMISSIONS FROM EXISTING VEHICLES ARE TRYING TO MAKE EXISTING VEHICLES MORE EFFICIENT RATHER THAN REQUIRING PEOPLE TO BUY A NEW. AND WHILE YOU WERE LOOKING AT THAT KIND OF UM PLACE TO SPEND SOME OF

[58:00] THIS MONEY DID YOU CONSIDER HAVING LIKE A CAR REPAIR TAX OR CAR REPAIR FUND. BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALSO OWE THE WOULD BE NO OLDER CARS BREAK DOWN AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO FIX THEM AND SALOON.SO IF THERE WERE A CAR REPAIR FUND THAT DID NOT COME UP BUT THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA THAT WE COULD EXPLORE. ONE LAST QUESTION SO YOU MENTION REDUCING TAIL PIPE EMISSIONS IN THIS WHOLE STUDY DID YOU LOOK AT ANIMAL HUSBANDRY BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY TALKING A TAIL PIPE EMISSIONS THAT COULD SELL. ABOUT FIFTEEN PERCENT OF THE TOTAL GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND SO. I WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH IT. I WAS KIND OF AMAZED THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THIS TONIGHT AND I KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO DO THERE BUT I THINK IN IT IT SOMEHOW NEEDS TO BE CALCULATED.WE NEED TO START

[59:05] TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK UM IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE. TOPIC FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT IF WE DON'T START TALKING ABOUT THAT JUST LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TAIL PIPE EMISSIONS FROM CARS YET SO WITH THE VEHICLE FEE BECAUSE IT'S A FEAT.THERE IS MORE STRICT GUIDELINES ON HOW THE FUNDS HAD TO BE YOU.THEY HAD TO BE USED RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS WITH THE NATURAL GAS TAX WHICH WAS BRODERICK BE USED TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS IN GENERAL. AND IN ATTACHED MINI WHERE YOU LOOK AT HOW WE PROPOSE USING THE NATURAL GAS TAX FUNDS.WE DO GET INTO CARBON SEEK RESTORATION AND ALSO EDUCATION AND OUTREACH AROUND FOOD CHOICE OF THEM WHICH STARTS TO GET AT THE EMISSION SOURCE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT'S A NEW AREA THAT WE'RE SHOWING TO WORK ON UNDER RESOURCES. UNDER THE RESOURCES SECTION OF THE CLIMATE COMMITMENT ANYTHING HE JUST GOT A NIGHT

[60:00] HE. VERY RECENTLY ABOUT AN IP UPDATE ON THE CLIMATE COMMITMENT THAT DOVE INTO OUR NEW FOCUS AREA. IN THE RESOURCES SECTION TRYING TO GET AT TACKLING FOOD TOYS AND WASTED FOOD FOR THE FIRST TIME BE THE KEY DAY. JUST TO WRAP UP THE VEHICLE FEE ON. TO ADDRESS SOCIAL EQUITY CONCERNS PARTICULARLY THOSE RAISED IN OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT STAFF IS PROPOSING SEVERAL EXEMPTIONS AND DISCOUNTS THAT ARE LISTED HERE. FOR THE LOW INCOME AND FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS LOW INCOME IS NOT YET DEFINED. BUT IT WILL BE PART OF A MORE DETAILED WORK MOVING FORWARD AS IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FEE. AND IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER EXISTING PROGRAMS IN THE CITY SUCH AS THE FOOD TAX REBATE PROGRAM WHICH HAS INCOME THRESHOLDS BY HOUSEHOLD SIZES WAS SEVERAL OTHER ADDITIONAL CRITERIA. AND BECAUSE REBATE PROGRAMS ARE BURDENSOME STAFF IS ALSO EXPLORING WITH BOULDER COUNTY. THE POTENTIAL

[61:01] DEVELOPMENT OF A CENTRALIZED AFFORDABILITY PORTAL. WHICH WOULD SERVE AS SOMEWHAT OF A ONE STOP SHOP FOR FOR PRESIDENT OF LOW INCOME TO FIND PROGRAMS AND REBATES AVAILABLE TO THEM. FOR THE BEST IN CLASS NO ALTERNATIVE OPTION. ELECTRIC VEHICLES WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THIS FEE. WHEREAS VEHICLES WITH NO ELECTRIC OPTION. BUT USING THE BEST AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY SUCH AS TRASH TRUCKS THAT ARE USING COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS. THEY WOULD RECEIVE A DISCOUNT AS WELL AS SERVICE WORKERS WHO DEPEND ON SPECIFIC VEHICLES TO MEET THEIR NEEDS THAT DO NOT HAVE ELECTRIC OPTIONS. AND OF COURSE BECAUSE THIS FEE IS ATTEMPTING TO REDUCE EMISSIONS IN THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR AND EMISSIONS ARE TIED TO THE AMOUNT OF MILEAGE TRAVELED BY VEHICLE WE WOULD OFFER. DISCOUNTS FOR THOSE THAT CAN DEMONSTRATE LOW MILEAGE OF THEIR VEHICLES AS WELL.HEY SO YES SOME OF

[62:00] THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST THE TAX BUT BOTH THE HISTORY THE TAXES YOU CAN LIVE IT OUT HERE BUT ALSO SOME OF THESE EXCEPTIONS OR EXEMPTIONS TO. THE BIG PICTURE ANNUAL COST OF THIS.THE SHORT ANSWER IS THAT THE PATENTS ON SOME OF THE EXEMPTIONS AND REBATES CAN BE BUILT UP FRONT IN TO THE REGISTRATION SYSTEM AS PART OF OVERALL CODE UPDATE. ON CODING UPDATE IN THE SYSTEM BY THE STATE AND WERE LOOKING AROUND THIRTY THOUSAND DOLLARS UPFRONT COST TO DEVELOP THE CODING. FOR THE COUNTY IT WOULD DEPEND ON HOW MUCH ADMINISTRATIVE. SUPPORT WE NEED FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY COLLECT THE FEE IF WE WERE TO DO AND REBATE THROUGH THEM. THEY WOULD BE A LOT OF TRACKING AND THAT WOULD INCREASE THE COST HAD BEEN COST THE COUNTY.WE ALSO KNOW INTERNALLY THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF PROCESSING OF REBATE. CAN BE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE READING ITSELF ONE OF THE EXAMPLES WE HEARD FROM SEATTLE THAT WAS COSTING EIGHTY DOLLARS TO ISSUE A TWENTY DOLLARS REBATE. ON THEM SO WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING THE INTERNALLY IN TRYING TO CAPTURE ECONOMIES OF SCALE WITH THIS IDEA OF AN AFFORDABILITY PORTAL. ONTO TO

[63:04] TRY TO REDUCE SOME OF THOSE ADMIN COSTS BUT THEY'RE THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WOULD BE. THAT LOW MILEAGE REBATE PROCESS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO QUANTIFY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T. REALLY DOVE INTO THE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY AT THIS LIST THAT WAS GREAT THOUGH THAT ALL ADDRESSED BECAUSE THE EQUITY EXEMPTIONS AND IN THAT. BUT THE OVERALL ADMINISTRATION OF THE TAX ITSELF YESTERDAY IT'S THE WE HAVEN'T BROKEN OUT BETWEEN OVERHEAD COST THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED UP FRONT FOUR GB SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN THE ANNUAL RECURRING COSTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PUT THE STATE AND COUNTY LEVEL. AROUND I THINK ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME UP FOR IT WAS AT THAT BELIEVERS TO ENGINE TWENTY THOUSAND UP FRONT A NINE HUNDRED AND SIXTY HERRING. AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE THAT MPG METRIC ARE USING IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE STATE REGISTRATION SYSTEM. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MANUALLY COLLECT THAT DATA FROM THE EPA AND PROVIDE IT TO THE STATE TO RE COAT IT.

[64:05] BECAUSE NEW VEHICLES ARE ADDED EVERY TWO WEEKS TO THE SYSTEM THERE WOULD BE A TIMELINE WE'RE AT A MINIMUM. ANNUALLY THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED AND RE CODED BY THE STATE AND SO THOSE RECURRING COSTS REALLY PART OF THAT LIMITATION AROUND HOW WE DON'T MANAGE THE SYSTEM. AND THAT ALSO AND WE ALSO HAD ANTICIPATED FOR ADDING IN TURN ENTIRELY NEW FUNDING SOURCE AND PROGRAMS EVEN NEED AN FTC TO ADMINISTER THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COME BUT AS OVERHEAD COST OR NOT BUT THAT MISSION AND COST ALLOCATION FOR THAT.PLEASE GO TO A QUESTION TO DEFLECT THE WAY THAT STRUCTURED THAT IT WOULD SERVE AS AN INCENTIVE AT ALL TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE INTO HIGHER MPG VEHICLES SORT NOT. KNOW AND NOW IT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES ARE ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT WE IDENTIFY WITH THIS. UNLESS YOU SET IT AT THAT NEXUS THE AMOUNT OF THE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX DOLLARS A YEAR. IT'S NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR AND IT'S APPLIED ANNUALLY AT THE TIME OF

[65:00] REGISTRATION NOT WHEN PEOPLE PURCHASE THEIR CAR.SO HOW DO THEY EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT IN THOSE RACES SO. REALLY WHEN WE DID THIS IT WASN'T. LIKE A TAX IS MORE TO DRIVE BEHAVIOR A FEE IS TO RECOVER THE COST. TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAMS AND POLICIES TO REDUCE AN IMPACT THEY ARE TRYING TO SOLVE AND SO. THAT'S MORE HOW WE LOOKED AT IT WE WERE RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO DRIVE BEHAVIOR CHANGE INTO. THE EDGES TO ADD A QUESTION FROM BOB ON THE BB IN THE COST OF THAT NEW TALKED ABOUT ERM. LOW INCOME PORTAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE PORTAL. BUT I THINK IT'S NOT JUST LOW INCOME WHEN YOU GIVE BECAUSE IN SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU ARE OFFERING. YOU TALKING ABOUT ELECTRIC BICYCLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND AND SO YOU GET REBATES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE SIR OTHER THING SO I THINK IT A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE THEM. SO

[66:04] GREAT TO HAVING IT THAT I WOULDN'T CONFINE US TO LOWER INCOME IN I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY LOWER INCOME AND THEN THURS.OTHER TIMES PEOPLE USE REBATES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY BLOW. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REBATES WERE TALKING ABOUT RE BAITING THE FEE THAT THEY HAD TO PAY THEM VERSUS GIVING SOMEONE A REBATE TO BUY AN ELECTRIC BIKE. WILL TO THAT END IF IF WE DON'T DO THIS AND YOU ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE DON'T SELL. MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T SPEND TOO MUCH ON THIS BUT WE DIDN'T RECOMMEND EITHER WAY WE ASKED FOR GUIDANCE.OKAY I WERE A FAIR ENOUGH.YES THE COMPELLING REASONS THE SPINELESS OPTION AT THE END OF THE LOW INCOME PORTAL THAT WAS DISCUSSED IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE ENVISION GOING FORWARD NO MATTER WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IT TOO.I THINK

[67:04] IT NEEDS CITYWIDE AND COUNTYWIDE SUPPORT AND WERE JUST STARTING THE CONVERSATION AND IT WOULD INVOLVE A LOT OF PLAYERS. WITH THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM OUR HOUSING HUMAN SERVICES EVER AND WE TALKED TO IS ON BOARD WITH THE CONCEPT. BUT WE ARE RECOGNIZING THAT A LOT OF THE SOCIAL SERVICES ARE COMING THROUGH BOULDER COUNTY. AND SO IT REALLY WOULD NEED TO BE DONE IN CONCERT WITH THEM AND SORT OF STARTING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVEN'T DOVE TOO FAR INTO IT. AND YET WE HAD WANTED TO SEE WHERE THIS WENT BEFORE WE DID BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND PURSUING WHETHER THESE GO FORWARD OR NOT. WILL I THINK I WOULD TOO I THINK IT ADDRESSES A LOT. OF THE AFFORDABILITY CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR WHEN WE PURSUE ANY SORT OF FEES OR TAXES FROM. THE EVEN ONES THAT HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT THE JOYS THAT BUT IT MAKES IT LESS AFFORDABLE TO LIVE HERE.I FOR ONE NOT THAT YOU ARE ASKING THAT QUESTION BUT I DO THINK

[68:00] IT'S WORTHWHILE TO EXPLORE THAT MECHANISM AND I BET YOU FIGURED OUT A LOT OF OTHER. CITIES WOULD BE INTERESTED BECAUSE IT. COMES UP IN CONVERSATIONS LIKE. HOW DO WE ADDRESS YET IT'S A REALLY BURDENSOME PROCESS YOU KNOW SOME. OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE ONLINE SUMMER IN PERSON SUMMER AND PP ARE THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND TIMELINES AND IT'S A LOT OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO NAVIGATE. TOO CAN I JUST REALLY STRONGLY SECOND THAT I THINK IT'S A PHENOMENAL IDEA WHEN WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY PURSUE SOME. TO WONDER WHO SAYS WE'RE TALKING REAL QUICK CAN WE GIVE A LITTLE NOD TO SAY HEY THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA. TO OTHER PEOPLE AGREE THAT WE WOULD BE WORTHWHILE BECAUSE WHETHER WE PURSUE THIS PARTICULAR TAX IN ADDITION TO. CITY HUMAN SERVICES AND COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES IS ALSO A WHOLE APPLICATION PROCESS WHICH IS LARGELY CONTROLLED BY HUD FOR. HOUSING AND THIS MAY BE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK BUT IT. COULD BE ONE STOP SHOP FOR EVERYBODY REGARDS TO WHAT TYPE OF SERVICE WITH HOUSING WHETHER IT'S. FOOD STAMPS

[69:00] MEDICAID ALL THE HOSTESS OR WHATEVER BUT IF WE COULD INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO THAT AS WELL WHICH IS THE THIRD ORGANIZATIONS THAT WOULD BE NIRVANA.NOW YES I AGREE BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT BELONGS AND SAY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT HOUSING HUMAN SERVICES SO. THAT A BIGGER QUESTION THAN JUST A SISTER AND I THINK. THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE OCCURRING AT THIS POINT WITH THE COUNTY IN SEEING HOW HOW WE CAN BEST DO IS OKAY. BUT I DID SEE REGARDLESS OF THESE TRACKS TOGETHER OR NOT IF I'VE. GOT IT OKAY OF A PROCESS QUESTION FOR MOVE ON TO THE GAS I KNOW REALLY THE BALLOT MEASURES. BUT SINCE THIS WHOLE FRESHER MIND IF WE WANT TO LIKE SIGNAL WHERE WE ARE ON THIS CAR TAX ISSUE NOW AND WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT LATER IN THE EVENING. IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO NOW WE CAN PARK IN THE CLINTON COMEBACK THE ALREADY JUST SICK OF IT

[70:00] NOW HAS TO BE CLEAR THIS IS OF SCI. FI US IF WE WANNA JUMP AHEAD TO THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD AROUND UM. THE VEHICLE CLIMATE SEE SO WE'RE SEEKING GUIDANCE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO PURSUE IT IF PURSUED STAFF RECOMMEND RECOMMENDING NOT SETTING IT LOWER THAN THE MODERATE FEE AND IF IT'S NOT PURSUED.WE ARE RECOMMENDING CONSIDERING THE HIGH RATE OPTION FOR THE NATURAL GAS TAX WHICH STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. SO THAT THE EXCESS FUNDING COULD FIND SOME OF THE MORE NECESSARY TRANSPORTATION CLIMATE RELATED PROGRAMS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY THE SEA. THERE WERE BASICALLY ASKING IF WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THIS THIEF OR A COUNCIL VOTE LATER THIS YEAR SCALED UP AND KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL DISCUSSION. OH MY THINK WE EVER GET THERE THE ANTI TAX OR SOMETHING AKIN TO THAT WOULD BE MUCH. MUCH BETTER BECAUSE IT GETS

[71:00] AT THE ISSUES WERE TRYING TO TARGET AND I DO THINK IT. IS CONFUSING TO DO THIS FEE WHEN THE LARGER FUNDING OF TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS LOOMS LARGE AND HIS MOM COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES PAS WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PRESSING WORK CELL THAT'S MINE.CATCHER TO FIRST AGREE WITH THAT AND THIS WAS REALLY GREAT NOW SO IT'S VERY HELPFUL AS TO HOW TO THINK ABOUT THE PROBLEMS WHAT I WILL SAY ABOUT IT BEING EMPTY.SHE IS THAT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS CARBON IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU GET TO CONGESTION OR. ROAD IMPACT FEE BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE MILEAGE QUESTION OF WHETHER TO ELECTRIC AND SO ON SO. MAKE THE COMMENT TO FALL ON THAT MUCH OR THE EMPTY SHE GETS TO THE CARBON ISSUES OF TRANSPORTATION. THIS YEAR IS FOR FUNDING THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES ALTHOUGH GETS CLOSER TO WHO I THINK THE IMPACTS OF THE DIVING ON IF YOU IF YOU CAN FACTOR IN THE EMISSIONS THAT. ARE CRUCIAL FOR SERVICE

[72:06] OR AS LISA AND YOU KNOW ME I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE THIS EITHER AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PURSUE THE OTHER ONE EITHER.WHILE I THINK THE POLLING WAS VERY HIGH. WE HAVE THE MUNI COMING UP IN I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING AND WE JUST HAD UM. CAP TAX IN TWO THOUSAND AND FIFTEEN. AND THEN IN TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN LEE HEAD ON THE BALLOT AGAIN THE MUNI AND THAT PAST AND WE'RE GOING HAVE ANOTHER MUNI BALLOT ISSUE. AND I WOULD SUGGEST TAKING YOUR INCREDIBLE WORK THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD. DOCUMENT AND I WOULD SUGGEST TAKING. THE STACKS AND SO YOU

[73:03] HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS WITH IT. AND DO THAT WITH THE MUNI IN WHENEVER WE DO THAT MUNI TAX IN TWENTY TWENTY OR TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND COMBINE THEM AS AS ONE TAX.I JUST THINK PEOPLE JUST GOT THERE ON YOUR TAX ASSESSMENTS ON PEOPLE. WE'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THAT AND I THINK ANY TEXT WE HAVE TO BE VERY VERY CAREFUL WITH. BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS ARE PLANNED ALREADY TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS MUNI TESTS WERE UNIQUE QUESTION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. TO BE WHAT ARE WE TO TALK ABOUT NATURAL GAS TAX UNTIL WE PRESENTED TO YES WE DO SAID. UM ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK JUST TO THE VEHICLE VEHICLE CLIMATE FEE AND IF EVERYBODY MUST AGREE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT WE CAN MAKE THIS BOOK.WELL I AGREE BUT JUST REAL QUICKLY JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO INCENTIVE TO BUILD INTO IT TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR FROM HIS ACUTE REASON WHY TO NOT

[74:00] SUPPORT IT.JUST ONE MORE THING ON THE COLOR. OF THE EMPTY TAX COURSE WE CAN DO IN TIMES THAT WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY BUT WHY SHOULD WE EVER GET THE TECHNOLOGY I THINK IT'S WORTH EXPORTING YOU COULD IMAGINE. GRADED VERSION WHERE THERE'S A FLAT FOR OR IMPACT AND THEN IT'S GRADED. FOR MISSIONS AFTERWARDS FOR EXAMPLE FACED MPG IF WE EVER GET A CHANCE TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT THAT AS. HE I THINK THIS IS WOULD JUST BE SEEN BY MOST PLEASANT OF AN ANNOYANCE.IT'S A SMALL TAX.UM AND IT REALLY WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING MEANINGFUL TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.YET IT WOULD ANNOY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF YET ANOTHER TAX FEW EVERYONE A COUPLE LOOK AT AS A TAX. BUT IS BIG ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE SOME EQUITY PROBLEMS THAT WE WOULD THEN HAVE TO WORK AROUND AND SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ADMINISTRATION SO I. WILL HAVE AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION ABOUT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING BUT THIS JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THE WEIGHT OF OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS IT'S JUST GOING TO. ANNOY PEOPLE

[75:06] AND GENERALLY NOT ACHIEVE MUCH. AND ALSO THAT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE IN COMMUTERS AND RATHER THAN GRABBING FOR MONEY IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH MANAGEMENT. WITH THE IN COMMUTING THAT COULD HELP TO REDUCE A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES SUCH AS PALO ALTO.I MEAN THERE ARE AND WE KEEP THIS IN TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLANNING. AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS SO IMPOSSIBLE BUT THERE ARE. ACHIEVABLE GOALS TO BE REACHED BY JUST CHANGING THE WAY WE DO SOME OF OUR MANAGEMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS WELL.SO THANK YOU EVER LEAVE THE WORK THAT YOU DID AN EXPERT IN THE EQUITY ISSUES AND OUR TEAM A LOT OF PROGRESS AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY WAYS IN WHICH IT COULD BE MORE EQUITABLE.I

[76:02] THINK IT STILL HAS A WAYS TO GO AND UM AND I THINK WE CAN TAKE LESSONS FROM THIS AND THEN APPLIED TO FUTURE EFFORTS SO THAT I HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH COUNCIL.I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK I THINK. I LIKE THE THINKING INSIDE THE BOX CONCEPTS AND I THINK WE CAN KEEP TRYING TO MOVE TOWARDS OUR GOAL. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT CINDY SAID I THINK ONE OF OUR BIG ISSUES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS IN COMMUTING. SO WILL THIS KEEP WORKING ON IT THINKING AND THERE IS THE JUNE EIGHTEENTH SESSION COMING UP ON THE TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN UPDATE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TOO. AND SO WILL GO INTO NATURAL GAS NOW UM. THE PROPOSED NATURAL GAS TAX THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A MODIFICATION OR UPDATE TO THE EXISTING CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX OR CAP TAX WHICH CURRENTLY ONLY APPLIES TO ELECTRICITY.SO THIS WOULD APPLY TO EVERY THURMAN OF NATURAL GAS CONSUMED WITHIN

[77:00] CITY LIMITS. ON JUST FOR CONTEXT THIS CHART SHOWS THE TREND OF STATE NATURAL GAS PRICES OVER THE YEARS AND THE REALLY HIGH GRAY LINE IS HAWAII IN KIND OF IGNORE ABOUT ONE. AND BEEN VERY HEAVY RED LINE IS THE AVERAGE COLORADO STATE NATURAL GAS PRICE AND IT'S ONE OF THE LOWEST IN THE COUNTRY WREAKING RANKING FORTY FIFTH. FOR STEVE ON RESIDENTIAL GAS PRICES AND SO ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT IT'S PRICED SO LOW IN COLORADO. THAT THERE'S LITTLE INCENTIVE TO EITHER REDUCE NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION OR TO ELECTRIFIED BUILDINGS AND SO. THIS IS TAX WOULD ACTUALLY HELP CORRECT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DICEN SON OF STAFF ANALYZE THREE DIFFERENT GREAT OPTIONS FOR THE NATURAL GAS TAX. IN THEIR SHOWN HERE UM. WE DON'T RECOMMEND THE LOW RATED SUMMER LUKE'S A MOVIE FOR THE VEHICLES THE REASON IT ONLY COLLECTS ABOUT THIRTY PERCENT OF THE REQUIRED FUNDING FOR THE NATURAL GAS PROGRAMS. AND

[78:01] SIMILAR TO HOW HE CURRENTLY STRUCTURE CAPPED TAX FOR RECOMMENDING A LOWER RATE FOR NON RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S PRIMARILY FOR TWO REASONS ONE IS THAT THE NON RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS DON'T GET TO VOTE ON THIS TAX. AND ALSO THAT THE ECONOMICS OF BUILDING ELECTRIFICATION ARE AND NOT AS GOOD FOR THE SECTOR RIGHT NOW SISTER'S LITTLE BIT LESS THAT THEY CAN DO TO REDUCE THEIR CONSUMPTION.UNLIKE THE ELECTRICITY RATES LARGE INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS ARE NOT ON THEIR OWN RATE STRUCTURE CONSISTENTLY ACROSS ALL OF THE NATURAL GAS SUPPLIERS. AND SO IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SET SET TO REACH SPECIFIC TO INDUSTRIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL THEY HAVE TO ALL BE LUMPED TOGETHER UNDER A NON RESIDENTIAL RATE. ON A DIFFERENT ANTICIPATED ANNUAL REVENUES ARE SHOWN HERE AND THE AIR BAR REPRESENTS. THE OPTION OF ITS COUNCIL CHOSE TO MODIFY CAP TAX AS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING. YOU COULD ACTUALLY LOWER THE ELECTRICITY RATES AS THE GRID BECOMES CLEANER IN THE FUTURE AND SUBSEQUENTLY RAISE THE NATURAL GAS RATES.

[79:03] TO CREATE THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE INCENTIVE THAT YOU WANT TO SEE OUR CARS ARE. ANTICIPATED ANNUAL REVENUE TO GO UP FOR THE NATURAL GAS AND WOULD GO DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR ELECTRICITY IS WHO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. FOR YOU TO DO SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GET AUTHORIZATION FROM THE VOTERS FOR A HIGHER RATE BUT THEN START AT THE LOWER LOWER EXACTLY. WHEN YOU WRITE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE USE AT NEAR MAX AND MIN RATES AND THEN YOU GIVE COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THEM OVERTIME TO. EARN SO THIS CHIRPY FIT TOGETHER IS TO SHOW THE EXAMPLE BILL IMPACTS THAT. IT WOULD HAVE FOR ANNUAL UTILITY COST ON RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. AND FOR CONTACTS THE GREEN BOX ON LEFT SIDE AN AVERAGE HOME PAYS ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS A YEAR AND ANNUAL NATURAL GAS FELL. AND THE STUNNED SOME CITY OFFICE BUILDINGS AND OFFICE BUILDING PAYS AROUND A LITTLE LESS THAN SEVEN THOUSAND THE YEAR.

[80:01] AND SO BETWEEN THE LOW TAX AN AREA ON THE HIGH ONE WERE LOOKING AT BETWEEN SIXTEEN DOLLARS AND SIXTY FIVE DOLLARS A YEAR. FOR THE NATURAL GAS TAX FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN BETWEEN TWO HUNDRED AND SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY DOLLARS FOR A TYPICAL OFFICE BUILDING AROUND FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. AND THEN IT GETS REALLY INTERESTING WITH OUR LARGE USERS WHICH IS PRIMARILY HEALTH CARE AND INDUSTRIAL. SAY WE HAVE SOME CUSTOMERS THAT CONSUME BETWEEN TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND IN A MILLION FIRMS A YEAR. UM AT THE VERY HIGH TAX RATE THAT LARGE A CAESAR WOULD BE PAYING ALMOST THIRTY TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. IN THIS NATURAL GAS TAX FREE BECAUSE WE CAN SET A SEPARATE RATE FOR INDUSTRIAL. SO FOR THAT REASON STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING IMPLEMENTING A RECAP WHERE ANY USAGE OVER THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE TAX. AND BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR BUILDING PERFORMANCE ORDINANCE THAT COULD BE BETWEEN TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND FIRMS THAT YEAR. AND YOU

[81:02] COULD BASE ON WHETHER THE ENTITY WAS A NON PROFIT OR NOT. WE TALKED TO EXCEL ENERGY ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF IMPLEMENTING THIS CAP AND I DO THINK IT'S FEASIBLE IN THEIR SYSTEM BUT PROBABLY IN A MONTHLY BASIS AND SAID EMANUEL. BUT NOT A QUESTION AND SO IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD THIS PROPOSED TAX PART OF THE IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD WOULD BE REFINING THIS NUMBER AND HOW THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.UM AGAIN ATTACHMENT HE GOES INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT HOW THIS FUNDING WOULD BE USED FOR WHAT'S SHOWN HERE IS. WHAT COULD BE FUNDED AT THE MEDIUM TAX RATE WITH A FOCUS ON ELECTRIFYING HOMES AND BUILDINGS. AND BUSINESSES INSTALLING LOCAL SOLAR SOLAR PLUS STORAGE PRODUCING NATURAL GAS CONSUMPTION AND PILOTING AND SCALING SOME OR OTHER EFFORTS LIKE RESTORING URBAN TREE CANOPY AND SEQUESTER CARBON IN OUR SOILS. AND IF WE CHOSE THE HIGHER TAX RATE THAT WOULD COLLECT AN ADDITIONAL ONE HALF TO TWO MILLION A YEAR DEPENDING ON IF YOU.

[82:03] FLEX THE RATES AS THE GRADE GOT CLEANER. AND THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO FULLY FUND. OUR NATURAL GAS PROGRAM NEEDS AND ALSO FIND SOME OF THE CLIMATE RELATED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN FUNDED BY THE VEHICLE FEE HIGHER RATE HE CAN TO COME. TO LIKE ELECTRIFIED TWENTY PERCENT OF HOMES OVER WHAT TIME PERIOD TWENTY TWENTY TO TWENTY THIRTY.SORRY ALL THIS IS TWENTY TWENTY TWENTY THIRTY. TO ASK ABOUT THE WHAT ARE YOU ESTIMATING THE COST ELECTRIFIED HOME WOULD BE. TO GET THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE THAT'S A LOT OF HOMES AND KELLY IN THE CLIMATE INITIATIVES I'M YANA AN IMPORTANT POINT.IT KIND OF ARIES I MEAN THEY'RE DOING FOR SOME OF THE EARLY ADOPTER HOMELESS ARE NOT COST PROHIBITIVE THERE ARE PROBABLY. MAYBE AT TWENTY PERCENT EQUIPMENT PREMIUM RIGHT NOW BUT AS WE START TO GET DEEPER WE START TO RUN INTO THE ELECTRICAL.

[83:03] INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT MORE OF THE COST IS GOING TO COME IN. AND WE COULD SEE A COUPLE IT WAS SOUL OR YOU CAN SEE COSTS UP TO FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A HOME BUT THAT'S NOT. GETTING CLUES TO SOLAR AND STILL HAS TO PAY BACK OVER THE LIFETIME OF THE HOME SO. IT IS A CHALLENGE AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE REALLY MAKING THIS A FOCUS AREA OF THE NATURAL GAS TAX. TO MY QUESTION IS WHAT WAS TO SURVEY THE AVERAGE COST ELECTRIFIED HOME THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING AND WHEN CAPTURING THAT WE COLLECT TWENTY PERCENT TWENTY PERCENT.YEAH I THINK THE WORST IN FIFTEEN THOUSAND THAT ANALYSIS. RIGHT AND THEN WE WOULD AND SENT A PORTION OF THAT I BELIEVE WE ARE AT THE LARGER REMEMBER WAS IT TEN OR FIFTEEN TEN PERCENT. YES TEN PERCENTGOTCHA OKAY SO THAT'S THE POINT THAT WE'RE ONLY BEARING A TEMPER SO AT THE CARS AND NOW THE MASTERS WORKOUT.YES NOW THANK YOU.

[84:09] THE OTHER ISSUE WITH ELECTRIFICATION WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TO IS THE COST TO. DO ELECTRIFIED HOMES AND BUILDINGS IS THE TWO HUNDRED. PERCENT HIGHER IN THIS COUNTRY THAN IT IS IN ASIA WHERE THEY'VE HAD TO CLOSE MANY SPLITS FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND THEY ARE USED EVERYWHERE AND IT'S COMMONPLACE. THE COOLEST MINI HOT IN SAREE LECTURE KEEP UP THE SELECTOR KEEP OF SORRY.I I I COVER EVERYONE DOES KNOW BETTER.THE UH IT'S JUST THE KIND OF A KIND OF ALIKE TO KEEP UP THAT REPLACES THOSE AWFUL WINDOW UNIT AIR CONDITIONING UNITS AND SO THERE'S NO DOCKS.THERE'S NO AIR DUCTS IT'S CALLED THE DOCTOR LESS. AIR CONDITIONING UNIT THAT THE HEAP UP. THERE ALL OVER ASIA ARE ALL OVER EUROPE ARE MUCH MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE THEY ARE BECAUSE THE THERE'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY BUT GENERALLY THE DEMAND IS HIGHER. AND IT'S JUST WHAT THE INDUSTRY IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS USE TO AND SO THE COST ALL ACROSS

[85:00] THE SUPPLY CHAIN ARE MUCH LOWER TOO.AND SO WERE HOPING THAT THROUGH SOME OF THIS THE FUTURE STATE LEGISLATION EVEN THAT'S LOOKING AT ENABLING. ON INCENTIVES FOR ELECTRIFICATION TECHNOLOGIES AS WELL AS JUST THIS WEAVE OF ADOPTION THUS EARNING HAPPEN WITH CITIES REALLY PRIORITIZING ELECTRIFICATION OF HOMES AND BUILDINGS. THAT WERE GOING TO SEE THAT SAME KIND OF MARKET TRANSFORMATION AND EVENTUALLY WILL SEE PRICES ON PAR WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD FOR THESE KIND OF TECHNOLOGIES. ON AGAIN TO LOOK AT EQUITY ISSUES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY AT WORK YOU'RE WITH A NEW NATURAL GAS TAX WE. ARE PROPOSING A LOW IN COMMON FINANCIAL HARDSHIP EXEMPTION FROM THE NATURAL GAS TAX AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO DO THIS IS AN UPFRONT EXEMPTION RATHER THAN A REBATE. ON BECAUSE EXCEL

[86:03] ENERGY EXCEL ENERGY'S BILLING SYSTEM ACTUALLY FLAGS THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE RECEIVED PAYMENTS FROM FEDERAL OR STATE ENERGY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS. TO THE THIRTY IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY COULD AUTOMATICALLY EXEMPT THOSE CUSTOMERS AND WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH EXCEL ABOUT THAT. ON OF COURSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER RESIDENTS WHO WOULD PROBABLY QUALIFY FOR LOW INCOME OR FINANCIAL HARD SHIP. QUALIFICATIONS THAT MAY NOT RECEIVE ASSISTANCE FROM THOSE PROGRAMS TO THEN WE WOULD STILL ON OFFER AND AFTER THE FACTORY BE THAT WOULD HOPEFULLY BE THROUGH THE STREAMLINED AFFORDABILITY PORTAL PROCESS. ON THE COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE FROM THE STUDY SESSION IS GOING TO GUIDE THE NEXT STEPS BUT IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NATURAL GAS TAX. WILL DEVELOP THE DA LANGUAGE IN LINE WITH THE TWENTY NINETEEN ELECTION TIMELINE. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THE VEHICLE FEE SO ANYONE GOING TO THAT. WE ARE RECOMMENDING A ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE BEFORE WE WOULD COLLECT ANY NEW TAX AND A LOT OF THAT

[87:00] REASON IS TO GET THESE STREAMLINED REBATE. AND EQUITY SYSTEMS AND PROCESS EASE UP AND RUNNING WITH BOTH EXCEL WITH THIRD PARTY NATURAL GAS SUPPLIERS BOULDER COUNTY ET-CETERA AND SO THEN WE GET INTO STAFFS RECOMMENDATION TEN QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL HERE.SO IN ADDITION TO RECOMMENDING ADDING THIS IS A TWENTY NINETEEN BALLOT ITEM ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING ELIMINATING THE SUNSET HEAT FOR CAP TAX TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE BONDING. TO ALLOW EXEMPTION OR DISCOUNTS FOR RESIDENTS WITH LOWER INCOME. TO GIVE COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY TO REDUCE THE ELECTRICITY RATE AND PROPORTIONATELY INCREASE THE GAS RATE AS THE GRID GETS CLEANER SPECIFYING. IN THE LANGUAGE BUT THOSE MAX AND MIN RATES WOULD BE. IMPLEMENTING MAXIMUM CONSUMPTION THRESHOLD OVER WHICH ADDITIONAL USES DOES NOT GET TAXED TO GET AT NOT PUTTING AN UNDUE BURDEN ON A SINGLE ENTITY THAT HAS HIGH PROCESS LOADS. AND THEN

[88:04] PROVIDING A ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD AND SO BASED ON THAT WE WANT OPEN UP THE DISCUSSION OF IF HE SUPPORTS US ARE CONDITIONED FOR THIS. WE DARED TO QUESTION WHAT'S THE CARBON INTENSITY OF NATURAL GAS FOR UNIT OF ENERGY RIGHT NOW COMPARED TO THE FUEL MIX THAT WE GET FROM EXCEL ELECTRICITY.IF YOU KNOW OFTEN WHAT I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP MY HEAD BECAUSE IT'S METHANE VERSUS. CARBON AND METHANE HAS LIKE EIGHTY FOUR TIMES THE GLOBAL WARMING POTENTIAL SO IF YOU PUT INTO CARBON INTENSITY WAS THE WRONG TERM. EMISSIONS AT LEAST SIXTY OR TO EQUIVALENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW I MEAN IT'S ONE O FIVE THREE METRIC TONS PER SERMON ON BUT I TRY TO REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT OUR EMISSIONS RATE IS FOR ELECTRICITY AND SURELY YOU KNOW THE ANSWER.WELL I MEAN IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU SEE IN THE LEAK RATE IS FROM OUR GUESTS AND SO IF YOU'RE EARNING.IF YOU'RE BURNING

[89:00] THE METHANE AND CARBON LOAD IS ABOUT PAST TYPICALLY WHAT YOU GET FROM. MAKING ELECTRICITY WITH IT BUT THE THING IS THAT HE PUMPS WHICH IS WHAT ELECTRIFICATION IS. HAVE A MULTIPLIER PERFORMANCE OF HERE COEFFICIENT PERFORMANCE OF THREE WHAT IT MEANS IS IT TAKES ONE UNIT OF ELECTRICITY TO MAKE THREE UNITS OF HEAT. IN THE HOME SAID THIS CALCULATION REALLY DEPENDS ON THE HEAT PUMP EFFICIENTLY. AT THE END OF THE DAY AND SO THE HEAT PUMP EFFICIENCY IS REALLY IMPORTANT SO IS THE METHANE LEAK RATE. CERT TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER FOR IS BETTER TO GO ELECTRIC IT ALMOST CERTAINLY IS BETTER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE METHANE LEAK RATES IF YOU GO ELECTRIC. AND THE COEFFICIENT OF PERFORMANCE THE EFFICIENCY. HEAT PUMPS IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE FOR MAYBE THE LAST DECADE. HAVE BEEN DOING THIS MATH SO THERE'S A FAMOUS BOOK. SUSTAINABILITY WITHOUT THE HIGH AIR WHICH IS WRITTEN BY ANOTHER NAME AND IT DOES A FANTASTIC JOB BUT IT'S A WHOLE CHAPTER OF A BOOK ON HOW TO DO THAT.THE SHORT

[90:05] ANSWERS IT'S VERY COMPLICATED YET BUT IT'S. OKAY I HAVEN'T DONE SO THE SOUTHWEST ENERGY EFFICIENCY PARTNERS AND ITS RECENT STUDY ON HEAT PUMP ADOPTION AND LOOKED AT BOTH NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND RENOVATION WITHIN THE DENVER MARKET WHICH IS OUR SAME. GRID AND NATURAL GAS MIX AND SO ON NEW CONSTRUCTION THERE SEEN A THIRTY TWO PERCENT REDUCTION. WITH THE PUMP ADOPTION ADOPTION IN GREENHOUSE GASES GREENHOUSE GASES AND THEN FOR RENOVATIONS IT'S ABOUT EIGHTEEN PERCENT. AND AGAIN THAT'S THAT'S RECOGNIZING THAT YOU'RE TIGHTENING THE HUMBLE UPS UP EVEN MORE ON A NEW CONSTRUCTION IN YEARS. TO RENOVATE AN EXISTING HOME BUT STILL EIGHTEEN PERCENT AND THAT'S BASED ON. A GREAT MIX AND THIS REPORTS ABOUT. ALMOST TWO YEAR OLD SO IT'S GETTING BETTER EVERYDAY AND ARE TO. INCREASE ELECTROCUTION ALSO INVOLVES THINGS LIKE. DRYERS RATES WHICH ARE DIFFERENT RIGHT BUT YOU GET THE POINT THAT YOU DO GET AN

[91:00] IMPROVEMENT RIGHT THAT THE FURNACES THAT IS YOUR MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO GREENHOUSE. GAS EMISSIONS FOLLOWED BY YOUR HOT WATER HEATER AND THEN THE WANING THIRTIES YEAR.I'M STILL SO HARD TO SEE YOUR FURNACE MEANING.SO IN THAT BABY ATTRIBUTION FOR METHANE LEAKS OR IS IT JUST ALL THE MIX AND THEY DIDN'T ADD IN METHANE LEAKAGE INTO THOSE NUMBERS.OK SO ON TOP OF THAT THIRTY PERCENT EIGHTEEN PERCENT YOU'VE GOT THE METHANE LEAK AND WE BASICALLY SAID IN A NEW BUILDING CODES WERE MOVING PEOPLE TOWARD T PALM TREE.WE ARE ESPECIALLY IN THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THE WAY THAT WE'VE SET THE WHOLE BUILDING ENERGY PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE RI READING MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR HOMES. LARGER THAN ABOUT THREE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET TO EVEN MEET THE CODE WITHOUT BEING ALL ELECTRIC. AND WE'RE STARTING IN THE WAY THAT WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS AN ENERGY USE INTENSITY REQUIREMENT FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WILL INCENTIVIZE AS WELL WERE NOT

[92:00] FLAT OUT REQUIRING IT.THERE'S SOME LEGAL CONCERNS EVEN WITH DOING THAT OR TRAINS OF EYES. OK SO WE'RE GETTING A PART OF THIS.OH OKAY YEAH I GUESS THE ONE THING I WOULD ALSO ADD THOUGH BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS WERE SEEN A LOT OF EYE HEALTH ISSUES. CROPPING UP AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE EQUITY PIECE COMES INTO PLAY AS WELL.NATURAL GAS USAGE IN HOMES. IS IS DEFINITELY CREATING CONCERNS WITHIN THE HEALTH COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THEM INCENTIVE EYES ELECTRIFICATION AS WELL. FROM A LONG TERM MEDICAL COST AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BECOME A GROWING IMPORTANT ARAB AREA FOR US AS WELL.SO WITHOUT GOING INTO A BUNCH.WHAT HEALTH RISKS PARTICULARLY YOUR SENIOR CHILDHOOD ASTHMA IS IS A BIG ONE.HARDING NATURAL GAS IN THE HOME MATCH WITH US IN THE HOME THAT THINGS ARE JUST FROM ANSWERS AMEN.SO FROM

[93:11] COOKING HERE CERTAINLY SEEN ADMISSIONS CONSTANTLY IRRESPECTIVE OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE EQUIPMENT IN OLDER HOMES WITH AGED FURNACES YOU'RE SEEN. HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF CARBON MONOXIDE AS WELL AS SOME METHANE BELOW DETECTION LEVELS BUT IN CONCENTRATIONS ENOUGH TO. CAUSE I THINK RESCIND THIRTY PERCENT HIGHER IN HIGH EXPOSURE IS OF CHILDHOOD ASTHMA SO I MIGHT ALSO ADD THERE'S CARBON MONOXIDE POISONING TO BE DISCUSSED.YOU KNOW AND WHICH ELECTRICAL HEATING SYSTEMS YOU WON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT TOO.I'M CURIOUS TO ME THERE'S A LOT THAT'S LAUDABLE ABOUT THIS APPROACH TO ME THE ISSUES TIMING. AND AN ELF AT HIS CONCERN FOR OTHERS OR TO TELL PEOPLE APPROACHING THIS BUT. THAT TO ME IS THE CRUX OF TOWN A FEW DAYS HAVE AN OPINION ON THAT BUT I THINK CERTAINLY BEEN HEARING FROM THE ABOUT TIMING.YES

[94:03] THE TIMING SPECIFIC TO THE GO NO GO VOTE FOR THE LAST YEAR I GUESS RIGHT.UM WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.INTERNALLY I THINK AS A DEPARTMENT WE FEEL LIKE THIS NATURAL GAS TAX IS NECESSARY TO MEET OUR CLIMATE GOALS WHETHER RENA SUPPLIES OR NOT. AND THAT BASED ON SOME OF THE RECENT CLIMATE SCIENCE REPORTS THAT HAVE COME OUT WE'RE SORT OF RUNNING OUTTA TIME AND SO THE IMPETUS FOR DOING IT NOW COMES FROM THAT ANGLE.UM AT THE SAME TIME.WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THE DANGER OF HAVING TOO MANY OF THESE STACKED CLOSE TOGETHER.UM WE DIDN'T WANT IT WE SPECIFICALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NOT THE BEST IDEA TO HAVE IN THE SAME YEAR. AS THE MUNI VOTE ALTHOUGH IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE UP FOR DISCUSSION THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DO IT IN THE SAME YEAR. FROM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO VOTERS.UM WE WERE ALSO HOPING

[95:10] THAT BY NOT MAKING A STAND ALONE SEPARATE NATURAL GAS TAX BUT BY MODIFYING THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX. WHICH IS CALLED THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX OFF THE ELECTRICITY TAX TO JUST EXTEND TO COVER NATURAL GAS AS WELL. THAT THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE SOME OF THE VOTER CONFUSION OVER THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CAP TAX AND THE NATURAL GAS TAX THAT WOULD JUST ALL BE PART OF THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX. UM BUT IT IS A TRADE OFF DECISION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER FOR SURE.RESCUE CREWS HAD SUCH A LOOK AHEAD. TO JUST WITH REGARDS TO THAT UNTIL MONDAY ON ON HOW YOU MIGHT FREEZE ABOUT LANGUAGE LIKE. THERE'S CURRENTLY A TAX ON ELECTRICITY. COULD COULD WE HAVE ONE BALLOT MEASURE THAT EXTENDED THE EXPIRATION DATE AND ADDED A TAX ON NATURAL GAS PROJECT TO DO THUS TWO SEPARATE THINGS YOU COULD DO THIS ONE. HAS TO DO THAT IS

[96:09] WAS BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE IT KIND OF SHELL THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX PAYMENT IS ACTUALLY OF INTEREST THAT THAT IS ONE TODAY.IT'S A GREAT LEGAL MIND BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH MTV GEAR AND SHE WAS UNSURE IF WE WOULD NEED A SEPARATE QUESTION JUST FOR TABOR BUT WE FIGURED WE COULD WORK OUT OKAY.THOUGHTS SENT HIS MEMO WAS EXCELLENT COMBO SECTIONS WERE REALLY REALLY GOOD AND THOROUGH AND SO HE GAVE US ALL THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT.SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WE NEED TO DO THESE THINGS.IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WHOSE TIME IS RIPENING QUICKLY. AND THAT TAX ON NATURAL GAS IS AT LEAST SIMPLER THAN THE VEHICLE FROM THE PERCH

[97:00] SO. I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS IN GENERAL BUT I THINK TIMING IS REAL CONCERN HERE. IS ONE WAY TO LOOK AT WHETHER IT COMES FORWARD WITH THE MUNI AS POTENTIALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COMPETITION THERE OR IT COULD BE GOOD IF IT'S ALONGSIDE ME NEITHER.IT'S LIKE THERE'S JUST ONE NON CONTROVERSIAL. AND IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY AND THAT WILL BE JUDGED ON ITS OWN MERITS AND THERE'S BEEN ANY QUESTION WILL WHICH WILL BE JUDGED ON ITS MERITS OUR OWN. BUT I THINK THERE IS A GOOD ARGUMENT TO MARRY HIM AS THEIR ALSO BE. PROBABLY A COUPLE DIFFERENT TAXES ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR FOR THE CITY TO THINK ABOUT HIM SIR THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF COMPETITION THAT. MIGHT TALK TO DIFFERENT TIMING THAN THIS YEAR BUT FOR ME ON THE WHOLE THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO GO. ULTIMATELY WHETHER IT'S SURE NOT DESERVE SOME DISCUSSION.

[98:00] BUT YOU KNOW THE GAS TAX IS MUCH MORE EASY TO ADMINISTER. I WAS NOT SO PLEASED WITH THE DIFFERENT RATES BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL I THINK THERE'S AN EQUITY ISSUE BEAR ALONE EVEN IF YOU GET THE EQUITY ISSUES ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE HANDLED.IT'S NOT CLEAR WHY RESIDENTIAL HOMEOWNER PAYS SOMETHING LIKE EIGHT TIMES THE RATE. PER FIRM VECTOR BUSINESSES TO MEAN EITHER BUSINESS THAT USES NATURAL GAS AND WOULDN'T THINK THAT WAS FAIR THAT I WOULD PAY ONE OF WHATCOM RESIDENTIAL FOLKS WOULD PAY CAP.I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT UNDERSTAND MIGHT SPARE TIME EXAMPLE OF BUSINESS OR USE A LOT OF NATURAL GAS IS COFFEE ROASTING RIGHT.OFTEN THEY USE IT FOR ROASTING THE BEANS BUT THEY ALSO REFUSED FOR CLEANING THE AIR BEFORE THEY ARE SUBMITTED. WITH THE AFTER BURNERS SO YOU CAN HAVE SOME SYMPATHY THAT WHEN YOU PUT THIS TAX IN PLACE.MAYBE THERE IS AN ARGUMENT FOR CAP ON THE BUSINESS SIDE BECAUSE YOU DEFINITELY GET SOME INDUSTRIES HARDER THAN OTHERS. BUT ON THE WHOLE I

[99:05] DON'T THINK I SUPPORTED THIS YEAR I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE YEAR WHEN BUNDLING THOUGHTS ABOUT ENERGY AND CLIMATE. AND WE CAN REALLY GET THE VOTERS TO FOCUS ON THAT SO BUT AGAIN I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT BOTH THE MEMO BECAUSE THIS WORK CAN BE BROUGHT BACK. IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE. OF THE THOUGHTS I WOULD AND THIS IS ANOTHER IT'S JUST THAT I THINK SAM STATED IT VERY WELL AND SUZANNE I WOULD AGREE THE TIMING IS REALLY. EVERYTHING HERE THE JOB ON THE MOST THINKING THE OTHER THOUGHT THEY WERE TO MEET MIKE HERMAN AND SO BUT I DO ONE A THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HIS FIRST A FANTASTIC MEMO.SO IT'S NOT WORTH THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE USED IT'S NOT COOL IN ON THE SHELF FREE AND SO I THINK IT CAN BE PERFECT.

[100:01] TIMING AND I THINK WHEN WE MEAN WE HAVE TIME IS FLUENT IN THE FUTURE TO DIVE FURTHER INTO. THE DIFFERENCE IN THE RATES BETWEEN THE SECTOR AND THE CAPTAIN HOW YOU DO THAT AND THAT OF LOOKING AT THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TAX MORE HOLISTIC LEAD TO SOME. MORE COLOR TO MAKE ALMOND. ICING COMPONENT OF SHIFTING OF THE CLIMATE ACTION. PLAN TAX OVER TO GAS IS A GOOD ONE FROM BACK TO THOMAS BE CUT OFF AND AWAY FROM BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ESSENTIALLY IS. ADDITIONAL REVENUES TO TRADITIONAL PROGRAM TONIGHT GORDON NEED TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION THE TALK ABOUT THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY. IN REVENUE NEUTRAL WAY SO WITH NO INCREASE IN TAXES IMPLEMENT THAT COMPONENT OF IT AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE SOME MERIT TO THAT. AND MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR BUT TO THINK ABOUT. WHETHER THOSE HAVE TO BE COUPLED OR NOT BECAUSE ONE IS A TAX INCREASE AND THE OTHER IS LIKE MAKING IT AS A LECTERN OR IS IT LESS AND

[101:00] LESS FROM A LETTER SHOULD BE. WE DID THINK ABOUT THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE EVALUATED IN THE OCTOBER STUDY SESSION.I THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS. ON THURS LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS TO DO THAT AND THEN YOU DON'T GET ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUES ARE ACTUALLY SHRINKING THE AMOUNT OF PROGRAMMATIC FUNDS THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH. AND YOUR SOAP THAT WAS KIND OF MEMORY AND THEREBY THOUGH THAT SUMS UP TO WHAT SAM SAID THERE. HAD TO SAY I'D PROBABLY BE IN FAVOR OF GOING FOR THIS YEAR GIVEN THAT. I WAS ASKED HIS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE THIS YEAR WITH OR IN A YEAR WOULD TAKE YE WROUGHT WITH. THE DIFFERENT GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OF GAS FOR SELECT RACINE SOMETHING IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO. GIVEN THE URGENCY ON CLIMATE CHANGE AND BE MORE INCLINED TO AFFORD. IT SOUNDS

[102:04] LIKE THE SUBTLE ACCOUNT SO I WILL SAY ONE BENEFIT TO NUMB HIM FOR THIS AT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE ANOTHER. WAY OF RAISING THE PRICE TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHICH. HAS CHALLENGED A LOT OF PEOPLE BUT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WITH THE EQUITY THINGS I THINK FOR FUTURE SOMETHING WE WILL TAKE ANOTHER CRACK AT THIS. IN ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO OR THREE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY LOOK CAREFULLY THE EQUITY ISSUES AT THAT TIME AND TO AARON'S POINT REGARDING EQUITY.THIS WAS A GUESS EASIER TO ADDRESS AGAIN I STILL DON'T THINK IT WAS QUITE THERE.I THINK IT HAS TO BE CALM NOT AN AFTERTHOUGHT BUT FRONT AND CENTER SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHIP. WITH TEXT IS ABLE TO ALL THIS WAY IN AND SAY UM I MEAN EGG RACE AND I ALSO AGREE WITH KAREN L AND IF. IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WE

[103:00] MIGHT CALL UPON TO HELP FULL SPEED TO RUN A CAMPAIGN THAT ARE LIKE. THE ONES RIDING ON YOU KNOW WHAT NO NOT THIS YEAR I'M IN SO THAT WEIGHS HEAVY.I THINK IT'S A VERY LAUDABLE APPROACH.I DO THINK THOUGH IF. WE ARE IN A RACE AGAINST TIME OR CLIMB ON THE OTHER HAND HAVING THE LOW INCOME PORTAL FIGURED OUT IF INDEED WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED WITH THAT. MAYBE IT WON'T TAKE SO LONG TO INFORM AND IS IN THE FUTURE IF WE HAVE SOME OF THAT STUFF ALREADY DIALED AS I THINK THAT BASICALLY WE HAVE A TAX ON SOMETHING. THE EU WANT PEOPLE TO ALTER THEIR BEHAVIOR.YOU KNOW USE LESS BUT ALSO TO HAVE CHEAPER ALTERNATIVES TO GET THEM TO A YEAR AGO SO. I'M HOPING THAT HE PUMPS THE APPROACHES THAT TOPLESS WHATEVER LIKE MAYBE IT'LL COME OVER SO MANY SPLITS THE WAY OUT THAT THAT MAYBE IT WOULD. FIT IN A YEAR OR TWO MAYBE MORE OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE IN PLACE WE ACTUALLY GET MORE BANG FOR BUCK.I EVEN KNOW I WOULD HAVE

[104:04] LOVED TO QUICKLY AND ETHICALLY OR MOVE QUICKLY BUT MOM I DO FEEL EMERGENCY. ANYHOW I'M GLAD THAT THIS THIS WORK WILL BE RELEVANT IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS AS WELL.OK SO I GUESS WE'RE NOT MOVING FOR NOT ONE BUT WE WON'T FORGET THIS IDEA.

[105:02] OK THANK YOU THANK YOU AND REALLY WAS EXCELLENT WORK ON THE I THINK YOU ARE NOT LIKE PERSONALLY OFFENDED OR I THE IT IS THE WAY.IN THE EYEOK WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR FIRST SUPER CENTER SO WE MAY HAVE TO SWITCH THE ORDER UP A LITTLE BIT. WHICH ONE IS A KATHY HADDOCK IS PRESENTING THE ITEM THE COUNCIL SR NINE AM THOUGH SHE'S HERE BECAUSE I MEAN WE HAVE SEVERAL SODA.I DON'T KNOW IF THE ORDER REALLY MAD.JUMP AHEADOK SO

[106:03] I'M GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MY NAME IS CHERYL TALLEY CFO FOR THIS CITY. AND MY ROLE IS TO REALLY BRING THESE BALLOT ITEMS TO THIS EVENING. THE FIRST ORGAN TO TALK ABOUT THE ITEM BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE CHARTER COMMITTEE THAT THE COMMITTEE MET A MONTH OR SO AGO. AND IS BRINGING FORD ONE ITEM AND THAT'S COUNCIL ASSISTANCE AND LIKE TO MENTION KATHY HADDOCK WILL BE PRESENTING THAT. AND THEN I WILL TALK ABOUT BOMB POTENTIAL BALLOT ITEMS IN FUNDING NEEDS IN THE FUTURE SO HERE IS WHERE WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THE ONE POINT FOR. POINT ONE FIVE CENTS SALES AND USE TAX THAT IS EXPIRING. WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED NATURAL GAS TAX AND THEN OTHER ITEMS I KNOW COUNCIL WANTED TO DISCUSS SOME ITEMS THAT WERE IN THE MEMO INCLUDING THE NORTH BOULDER. OUR DISTRICT COULD PETITION TO ESTABLISH A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES IN TAX

[107:00] ON SECOND HOMES SO THIS WOULD BE OUR OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. IN NJ IS GOING TO DISCUSS THE MIDDLE INCOME DOWN PAYMENT PILOT PROGRAM IN FAMILY DAVID GERE WILL BE PRESENTING THE LIBRARY FUNDING PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CATHY TO TALK ABOUT COUNCIL ASSISTANCE.THANK YOU VERY MUCH AM KATHY HADDOCK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. HAVE AND HAVE WORKED WITH THE CHARTER COMMITTEE AND THE ITEMS THAT THEY HAD FOR RECOMMENDATION AND THE ONE THAT CAME UP WAS. THIS SINCE FOR COUNSEL AND WHILE THIS SEEMED LIKE IT MAY BE A VERY SIMPLE IDEA FOR THE CITY TO GIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS. MONEY TO HIRE ASSISTANTS AND THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEM WITH THE OVERLAP OF TAX LAWS AND LABOR LIES IN THE CITY CHARTER.IT DIDN'T END UP BEING AS SIMPLE AS ALL THAT SO WE NEED SOME

[108:00] DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO HOW YOU WANT US TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS I. D ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER OR THAT WE NEED HELP FROM YOU FOR DIRECTION IS WHAT KIND OF HOURS YOU TALKING ABOUT THEM WORKING.WHAT TYPE OF WORK IS ASSIGNED.IS IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME AMONG ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS OR CAN EVERYBODY DO WHAT THEY WANT WHAT WITH THE WAGES BE. AND WHERE WOULD THE WAGE MONEY COME FROM IF THERE ARE CITY EMPLOYEES. HIRED BY THE CITY THEN BY THE CHARTER THEY HAVE TO BE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER IF THEY'RE. WORKING DIRECTLY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PAID WITH CITY MONEY AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED PART OF THE SALARY OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ACCORDING TO THE CHARTER.SO THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WERE TRYING TO BALANCE.IN

[109:02] ADDITION TO THAT THERE HAD BEEN AT THE SUGGESTION THAT POTENTIALLY CAP DEBT. THAT ASSISTANCE COULD SPEAK FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AT MEETINGS AND SUBSTITUTE FOR THEM DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL OR NOT BUT THAT WOULD BRING IN THE CORA. SORRY TO OPEN RECORDS ACT AND OPEN MEETINGS LAW.SO THOSE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER. STILL I DID THE QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU.YES THANK YOU I'M SOL.DEPENDING ON THE SOURCE OF THE MONEY IN ORDER FOR THE SOURCE THE MONEY TO BE FROM THE CITY. WITH THE COUNCILMEMBERS HIRING THEIR OWN ASSISTANCE IN GIVING THEM THEIR OWN DUTIES AND EVERYTHING WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE CHARTER FOR AN INCREASE IN THE COUNCIL SALARY. THE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE AND IT'S HARDER TO DIRECTLY SUPERVISE THE ASSISTANCE THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF THEM BEING TO THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY

[110:06] MONEY COULD BE USED TO PAY FOR THE ASSISTANCE BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE CHARTER CHANGE. THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS THAT WITHOUT CHANGE THE CHARTER YOUTH COUNCIL COULD HIRE ASSISTANTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY UNDER THE CITY MANAGER AND WITHIN THAT. FRAMEWORK FOR ALL CITY EMPLOYEES AND WE NEED SOME DIRECTION AND HOW YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE THAT WORK.SO THOSE ARE THE BIG AREAS THAT WE NEED SOME DIRECTION ON AND I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING SO HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS TO NARROW THIS SUMMER FOR YOU. AND I'M READY TO SPEAK TO THIS I DON'T THINK IT'S CONFUSING AT ALL.I'VE USED BERKELEY IS THE EXAMPLE SEVERAL TIMES AND IF STAFF HAD LOOKED AT THAT THEY MAY HAVE SAVED US ALL SOME TIME AND NOT MADE IT QUITE SO COMPLICATED.THANK YOU VERY MUCH HOWEVER KATHY FOR THAT PRESENTATION.SO WHAT BERKELEY

[111:02] DOES TOO AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED THE CHARTER CHANGE FOR IS TO SAY THAT. THE CITY PAYS FOR THE MEMBERS. THE MEMBERS HAVE DIRECT CONTROL OVER THEM RATHER THAN THE CITY MANAGER AND IN BERKELEY DAY VET AND HIRE THEIR OWN ASSISTANTS. AND THERE'S A VARIABLE SCALE I THINK IT'S FROM MAYBE THIRTY TWO TO SEVENTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS PER COUNCIL MEMBER PER YEAR THAT THEY CAN USE OR NOT USE. AS THEY LIKE IF THEY NEED MORE HOURS THAN THEY TAKE OR IF THEY ONLY NEED SOMEONE TWO HOURS A WEEK IN THEY JUST PAY DAMAGE BUT NO THEY WOULDN'T BE ENTITLED OVERTIME.UM NO A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD NOT HAVE MORE ASSISTS AND THEN ONE AT A TIME AM THE WAY IT DID. NOT RIP AND REPRESENT THEMSELVES AS COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT THE AM I DON'T SEE WHY THEY COULDN'T TALK AMONG THEMSELVES ABOUT BUSINESS. EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WE HOPE WE DO DAT.UM SHOULDN'T

[112:10] ASSIST AND BE ABLE TO WORK FOR MORE THAN ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. I WOULD ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BUT I WOULD THINK NOT AGAIN THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INDIVIDUAL PERSONS HIRED BY THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.THAT'S WHAT THEY DO AND APPARENTLY IT WORKS VERY WELL.ADDITIONALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS THEIR SALARY BUT THIS IS NOT PART OF THEIR SALARY. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THAT THUMB INDEX AND ACCESS TO CONFIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS SAY NO TO THAT AS WELL.I MEAN CINDY TO THE EAST OF BERKELEY IS SALARIED DO YOU. LIKE THEY HAVE A SALARY THAT SEPARATE THE NOT LIKE IS IT LIKE OUR SALARY TWO HUNDRED BUCKS A METEOR OR IS IT. REAL SORRY IT'S A REAL SALARY IN THAT RANGE SAY FROM THIRTY TWO TO SEVENTY SIX AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE CLOSE ENOUGH BUT I'M NOT UPSET.SO YOU WOULD GET A LITTLE.IT'S LIKE TO TRAVEL

[113:02] MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ENTITLED TO THAT THEY IF THEY USE IT.THEY USE IT IF THEY DON'T PLAY DOUGH SO. IT'S NOT MANDATORY BUT IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF OUR WORKLOAD TODAY SAYS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR SPECIFIC CITY WORK IT'S EASY IT'S SIMPLE IT'S NOT. SO I THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES WAY BERKELEY CA AND WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS FULL AT NUMBER TWO AND I'M SORRY. THAT WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS BUT THAT'S DISCOUNTS WHAT A CHANGE IN THE CHARTER TO DIRECTLY SUPERVISE THE ASSISTANCE THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF THE CITY MANAGERS TO LEAD THE LEAGUE THAT'S THE MODEL YOU'RE SUGGESTING. YES DEPENDING ON HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THE CITY OF BOULDER. BOULDER'S CHARTER WERE EMPLOYED WELL WHATEVER ONE FOR CHANGING THE CHARTER WE CAN LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE CITY SYSTEM.I AM NOT AN EMPLOYMENT

[114:03] LAW ATTORNEY OR TAX ATTORNEY SO I CAN'T. DIRECTLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW WHETHER THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN STRUCTURE BY A CHARTER CHANGE THEM SO THAT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIT INTO THEIR CURRENT CITY STRUCTURE. BUT IF THAT YOUR DIRECTION THAT'S WHAT WILL INVESTIGATE AND THAT WOULD BE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND I WERE TO ASK THAT THIS IS FOR. PERFECTLY GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE AN ASSISTANT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF I HAD WHEN I WOULD HAVE THEM GO ASSESS ALL OF THIS OUT BUT I DON'T SO. I'M LOOKING AT IT IN YOUR DEPARTMENT TO CHECK THAT OUT TALK TO PEOPLE IN BERKELEY SEE WHAT THEY DO THERE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DO IT AS WELL.OH AND WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS EXACTLY WHAT WILL IT TO IS.SO YES THAT'S RIGHT I THINK WE'VE GOT THE IDEA OF WE JUST NEED THE DIRECTION AND YOU JUST. CAN YOU GIVE US A STATUS ON YOU KNOW THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO TRY OUT HAVING ON ONE ASSISTANT FOR EVERYBODY.WHERE

[115:01] ARE WE IN THAT SENSE WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVENTY APPLICATIONS FOR THAT AND WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO TEN SEMI FINALISTS.WE'RE GOING TO NARROW IT DOWN FURTHER THROUGH. SOME VIDEO INTERVIEWS AND THEN COUNCIL WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ONE OR TWO OR THREE. FINAL FINALISTS THE LOVE FOR YOU TO GIVE US ARE YOUR VIEWS ABOUT WHICH OF THE FINAL CANDIDATES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE SOMEONE ON MY JULY FIRST.UM SO THE QUESTION SHOULD WRITE THIS TO YOU BECAUSE YOU JUST OUTLINED HER VISION WAS SO JANE JUST SAID HE. CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT PROBLEM ARE KINDER SOFTER. WOOD IS IT WORTH WHILE TRYING OUT THE ASSISTANT THAT JANE IS HIRING FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS WHO WANT TO. USE THIS

[116:01] ASSISTANT OR A SER UM. IS IS ER PROBLEM WITH THAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX WITH THE STREAM AND I WEEP FOR MY PERSPECTIVE AGAIN I WOULD THINK DID THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE SHARED.THIS PERSON WILL BE SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT DIFFERENT COUNCIL MEMBERS PURSUE IT THEY MAY JUST GO OFF ON THEIR OWN UNIQUE ENGINE ON IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CITY POLICY.UM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PERSON IS SHARED BY THIS MANY MEMBERS HOW MUCH TIME SHE OR HE MAY HAVE. TO DO THAT KIND OF THING FOR AS WELL IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT UM IT'S JUST BEING BEING THE PERSON'S BOSS RATHER THAN HAVING HAVING THE PERSON ANSWERED IN THE CITY MANAGER. I GUESSSO HERES TWO ISSUES I GUESS WITH RESPECT THE TIME MISSION OTHER WORDS WHETHER A TRIPLE PLAY.YES IT IS I GUESS THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER FULL TIME EMPLOYEE IS NOT FOR NINE PEOPLE SOME FROM POPE IS. SO AWSOME WILL USE A

[117:03] LITTLE AND SOME MAYBE NOT ALL. KNOW THAT UNTIL WE HIRE THE PERSON SEE HOW MUCH IS USED WITH RESPECT TO THE BOSS ISSUE I GUESS. I'LL JUST SAY THAT I FEEL THAT I HAVE ACCESS TO ALL FOURTEEN HUNDRED EMPLOYEES IN CITY AND I'M NOT ASKING THEM TO DO TOO MUCH WHICH REQUIRE NOT FIVE. I'VE ALWAYS ON THE BEAVERS ON SO I'M NOT THEIR BOSS THAT I NEED INFORMATION OR SOMETHING DONE. I PICK UP THE OWNERS AN EMAIL ON THE COAST AND I THINK IT'S GREAT EVEN THOUGH NONE OF THEM WORK FOR ME SO I CAN BOTHER ME RESPONDS TO DEBTS.UM SO ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO I HAVE BEEN PUT IN CONTACT WITH IN BERKELEY WHOM I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK YET.ADAM HAS AN ASSISTANT SHE ALSO PUT OUT A NEWSLETTER ON A REGULAR BASIS WHICH. I WOULD REALLY THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAN JUST YOURSELF STOP ME SO. SO BUT YOU KNOW I JUST DON'T.

[118:01] AND MANY OF US HERE SITTING HERE AND IN THE FUTURE I WOULD THINK. OUR TABLE TO DO THAT SAME KIND OF COMMUNICATION BUT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR EXAMPLE AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT I COULD PICK THE EMPLOYEE. AND SAY OK GOING TO DO THIS THIS THIS OR THAT. BOB IS FROM ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE IS FOR SOMEONE LIKE ME I'D WANT. TO USE THIS PERSON TO GO THROUGH MY EMAILS MORE FAIRLY AND RESPOND CUZ THERE'S MANY MANY MANY I DON'T RESPOND TO AN INVITE TO. AND SO IF I COULD HAVE SOME AND I COULD TRUST IS JUST WORKING FOR ME TO GO THROUGH AND FILTER EVERY WEEK AND SAY OK. THESE ARE A LOT OF STOCK LETTERS ON THIS ISSUE AND I'D ESCAPE REPLY EVE PRE WRITTEN FOR ME BUT THESE TEAM ACTUALLY REALLY NEED TO RESPOND TO YOURSELF. I MEAN THAT FOR ME IS A BIG PART BECAUSE I'M NOT HAVING ENOUGH ENGAGEMENT WITH THE RESIDENTS IN TOWN AND I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM TO HAVE.I MEAN MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO BUT I SURE AM NOT ONLY DID THIS

[119:00] ONE DRAWN TO. THE VOLUME ISSUE OR A CONFIDENTIAL EDITION OF THE WORDS. ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT HERE FROM AN ASSISTANT HAS RESPONDED ON BEHALF OF LOGICAL TO MEMBERS OF SOME BLACK MEN OF TIME OR YOU MORE CONCERNED THAT. HAVING ONE ASSISTANT RESPOND ON BEHALF OF SODA CANS MEMBERS AGREE TO CONFIDENTIALITY CONFLICTS FOR THE PERSON AND WORK ON CERTAIN THINGS AND THEY WANTED TO SHARE. THIS I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT CINDY IS STATING THEM WITH BULLET NUMBER TWO. SO LET'S ALL JUST THREW OUT THERE ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL. I'D RATHER NOT HAVE TO HAVE. A D GATHERING ABLE TO DO THIS YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY SO I COULD SPEND MORE TIME DOING THIS IS AT MY OTHER FULL TIME PAID UP. FOR THE VOTERS SAID NO TO THAT AND I GUESS AND I CAKES BUT I CAN RESPECT THE VOLUNTEERS SORT OF SERVICE ETHIC AROUND THAT BUT I GUESS. IF I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY SOMEBODY. TO DO WORK FOR ME OR PAY ME SO I HAD THE TIME IMMORTAL DUE TO MY SHOP I

[120:00] WOULD RATHER DO THE LATTER AND I. AGAIN WITH THE VOTERS SAID NO TO THAT SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I DON'T.THE OS I DON'T THINK THAT SUPPORT THIS IF THEY DON'T SUPPORT HOME LOSS TO YOURSELF. AND MAYBE TO SCREEN OUT FINE BUT THAT WOULD BE THE WAY I WOULD READ THE TEA LEAVES SO I GUESS DISTURBED.I TOLD THE HONOR YOUR REQUEST.I GUESS I THINK WE SHOULD TRAIL. THIS ONE IS SISTERS FIRST ONE ASSISTANT BEING HIRED FOR HIS CHEESE FIRST AND SEE HOW SHE ROLLS. OUT BUT AT THE END ME I RESPONDED OH SURE THE ISSUE I THINK WITH THAT IS THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.I THINK SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO. PAY THE COUNCIL MORE FOR WHATEVER VARIETY OF REASONS THEY MAY HAVE. LEGITIMATE OR NOT BUT HAVING AN ASSISTANT IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE IN WHAT I AM REALLY WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE FULL TIME JOBS. WHO DO NOT

[121:08] HAVE THE TIME TO DO THIS KIND OF THING WILL NOT STEP FORWARD. AND THIS IS A WAY TO ALLEVIATE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO TAKE THIS KIND OF JOB. TO HELP TIM'S BE ABLE TO STEP FORWARD SO THAT WE HAVE A MORE REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL. THAT'S REALLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS FOR ME IS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO THIS KIND OF THING BECAUSE OUR WORKLOAD IS NEAR OVERWHELMING. AND IF YOU'RE WORKING FULL TIME YOU CAN'T DO THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO PARTICULARLY IF YOU WANT TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY.SO THAT'S ALL JUST AGREE WITH WEAPONS AND SAID. I THINK THAT MOST OF THE COUNCIL VOTED TO HIRE AN ASSISTANT TO THE COUNCIL THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER WHICH I THINK IS A REASONABLE NEXT STEP. WILL WE DO HAVE A COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT WHERE THE POLICY SETTING POLICY IN THEM AND THEN CITY STAFF THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER. RUNS

[122:02] THE CITY AND I THINK THAT'S OVERALL REALLY FUNCTIONAL MODEL WORKS FOR MANY MANY MANY COMMUNITIES CROSS COUNTRY. AND CITY EXTENT THAT WE GET HELP IN OUR OUR JOBS COMES MEMBERS I THINK HAVING IT BE UNDER THIS EMERGENCY STAFF MAKE SENSE. I'LL REITERATE SOME POINTS I MADE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.IF WE HAD ASSISTANCE FROM THE ONE HAND BE REALLY NICE BUT ON THE OTHER HAND I MEAN I WOULD FEEL LIKE I WOULD STILL NEED TO READ EVERY EMAIL. AND I WOULD HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY GO TO MEETINGS BUT ALSO THAT ANY CIVIC EVENTS THAT I FELT LIKE THAT. I NEED TO BE REPRESENTED AT I WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE PERSONALLY. IS SOO AND AHN SO HEE AND MAYBE GET A LITTLE HELP WITH SENDING FORM LETTERS UP AND THEN THEY COULD SEND THAT OFF. SEPARATELY AND THE ONE THING ABOUT BERKELEY'S THEY DO HAVE. WARDS OR DISTRICTS AND SO THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE BIT. LIKE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE DISTRICT HAS A CONCERN ABOUT THEIR DISTRICT THAT COULD MAYBE COME TO THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE AND IT HELPED THAT CITY.WE

[123:04] DON'T HAVE DISTRICTS OR WARDS AND CITY STAFF FILLS THAT ROLE AND IN THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS WOULD BE A BIG. BUDGET LINE ITEM IF WE ALL HAD A CYST AND SOME LIKEN THIS TO BE A LOT OF MONEY. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER SPENT IN OTHER PLACES I WOULD AGREE. AND IN TERMS OF IF THE VOTERS WERE WILLING TO GRANT A LARGER SALARY TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THEMSELVES I THINK IT WOULD POTENTIALLY REALLY HELP PEOPLE SERVE BUT I. FEEL LIKE YOU'RE WORKLOAD MIGHT ONLY GO DOWN TEN PERCENT IF YOU HADN'T PAID ITS TOP TO DO SO MUCH FOR YOURSELF.AARON THE ONLY THING AGAIN IF I COULD RESPOND AT IS THAT AT THIS POINT WHEN ISSUES COME UP IN THE CITY.IF SOMEONE DOESN'T RESPOND TO THEM PERSONALLY AND THIS IS THE WHOLE CITY RIGHTS ACT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THOUSAND WHATEVER WHETHER STUDENTS WHETHER THEY'RE RESIDENTS THAN IT JUST GOES BY THE WAYSIDE.I'VE BEEN IN ARE

[124:04] FACING WITH A WOMAN WHO LIVES IN SOUTH BOULDER WHO HAS A SOLAR MOUNTING A RAY SHINING AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE HAS BEEN DEALING WITH HER.SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THESE PEOPLE THEY GET LOST THEY HAVE REAL ISSUES. AND I'VE TALKED BACK AND FORTH JANE I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS RESOLVED BUT IT WILL TAKE A CODE CHANGE. AND YOU KNOW SOMEONE DOESN'T SEE THAT THEY DON'T SEE AND PICK IT UP AND IT'S A VERY SMALL THING. THEY'RE VERY MANY MANY SMALL THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY TO JUST GET LOST I THINK BECAUSE. WE'RE UNABLE TO RESPOND AND THAT'S NOT ANY I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY FAULT HERE AT CHEZ THINK THERE'S A LOT TO DO IF I COULD BEAT COAKLEY REAL QUICK ON THE SIDE.WE ARE IMPERFECT AS A CITY ORGANIZATION THAT HAMSTRING COMMITTEE MEMBERS' EMAILS AND I FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT PERSON PERSONALLY AS A SORT OF ORGANIZATION BUT YOU KNOW. BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S

[125:00] A PROBLEM WE COULD POTENTIALLY TACKLE AND IF WE FELT LIKE I WAS A REAL PRIORITY WE COULD. LOOK AT FOCUSING STAFF ON AND ON THE MAT RESPONSE AND TRACK THEM ON WHATEVER THE TICKET FROM A TIME BUT I WOULD. RATHER DRESS HIM OR IS IT AN ISSUE IN AND OF ITSELF RATHER THAN THROUGH COMES LATE FOR THE FILMMAKERS PRAIRIE MARY. TILLMAN AGREE WITH SUZANNE AND WITH AARON I THINK THAT. FOR ME IT SEEMS LIKE WOULD CREATE MORE WORK TO HAVE AN ASSISTANT TO THE EYE. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT A BETTER USE OF THAT MONEY WOULD BE TWO. COMPLEXES AND SAID I MEAN TO GIVE YOU THE TIME TO DO THE WORK INSTEAD OF EXPLAIN IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT FOR YOU.IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A TIME SAVINGS TO ME I DID LOOK UP THE SALARIES THAT BERKELEY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PAID ARE. CURRENTLY TWENTY

[126:05] NINE THOUSANDFIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY DOLLARS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR GETS FORTY SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR MM THIS IS AMBER.OK SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF THAT KIND OF INCOME WHICH PROBABLY GIVES THE UPDATE E TO. USE THEIR WORK HOURS TO DEDICATE MORE TIME SO IF YOU LOOK AT LIKE TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND A QUARTER. TIMES FOR THE TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR SALARY RATES IF YOU GET TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND YOU COULD THEORETICALLY REDUCE YOUR HOME. YOUR WORK LOAD YEARS SALARIED WORK LOAD BY TEN HOURS AND TAKE EIGHTEEN HOURS MORE SO IT SIMPLY COMES DOWN TO GOING TO SERVE ON COUNCIL.

[127:01] IT'S GOING TO BE SERVICE AND SACRIFICE AND THAT'S WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT KIND OF SERVICE THAT IS REQUIRED TO DO AND COUNSEL WITHOUT SOME SORT OF SACRIFICE.I MEAN REALLY COMES DOWN TO THAT MAYBE IT'S MY CATHOLIC UPBRINGING I DON'T KNOW THAT I COME.BUT REALLY THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO AND COME IN TO ME IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD CREATE MORE WORK. FOR THE FIRST OF DECEMBER A HELPFUL DISCUSSION I LEARNED A LOT TONIGHT FROM NEARBY AND SUNDAY ABOUT YOUR VIEWS ON THIS SO THAT WAS REALLY REALLY GOOD. I GUESS I'M SOME KIND OF AGREE WITH WITH MARION AND THE ZAHN AND AARON AND KATHY ALSO. I I UM I UM. BUT I GUESS I'D LIKE TO GIVE THIS NEW MODEL SHOULD TRY FOR SOME THAT WERE REALLY CLOSE TO HIRING SOMEBODY WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. THIS PERSON'S GOING TO BE IS ALSO

[128:00] FORTY HOURS A WEEK OR FOUR HOURS A WEEK OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN FOR ABSOLUTE OVERWHELMING THIS PERSON THAT WE SHOULD. REVISIT THIS TOPIC DOES ADDRESS MERE BIAS CAN SORT OF A CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE ONE PERSON. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO. TO DO WITH THAT OTHER THAN TO SEE MEASURE CONSTRUCT THE PERSON TAKING THE BALL HIMSELF OR HERSELF OFF BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS BUT. VOLUMES TO MAKE LIKED TO TRY TO SEE HOW MUCH ARE ACTUALLY USING THIS PERSON'S EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE BY US.I JUST HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH WE USE THE USE OF PERSON. I GUESS I'M NOT SUPER. BOSS ISSUE BECAUSE A GUY FOR A WEEK FROM ALL CITY EMPLOYEES TO BE VERY HELPFUL AND I JUST DON'T I DON'T PERCEIVE WHETHER THIS PERSON RESPONDS TO CUSTOMER RESPONSE TO SOME OF JAMES' TEAM.I THINK THE PERSONS CAN BE HELPFUL NO MATTER WHAT SO I'M COPYING HIRE A PERSON SO I THINK I'D LIKE TO TRY THIS. THIS YEAR WITH THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE WANT TO REVISIT NEXT YEAR WITHOUT WORKING FOR SOME REASONS YOUR STATED AND MAY WISH TO REVISIT. GOING

[129:05] SAM AND I JUST GET ONE THING TO WRAP UP REGARDING MARY WENT MARY C. TO SAM AND LISA I WAS A CATHOLIC TOO AND I WANT TO GO TO THE CONTENT I HAD WENT TO THE YEAR.ANYWAY AM I I PRETTY MUCH AGREE WITH WITH BOB AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TRY WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SET IN MOTION.SEE HOW THAT WORKS AND I MEAN WE DO GET CONTACTED I JUST GOT CALLED BY SOMEBODY TODAY WHO WANTS ME TO DEAL WITH A UM. AN ISSUE NEXT OR INVOLVES LIGHT YOU KNOW. NIGHTTIME LIGHT DARK SKIES IT INVOLVES EIGHTY YOU IT INVOLVES THE SIZE OF THE EU IT IS AT AN AFFORDABLE E DO YOU OR NOT. AND SO IT'S MULTIPLE ISSUES IN I THINK UM. SOMEBODY WHO HAS SEEN IS DOESN'T HAVE THE BREATH OF WHAT THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE VERY HARD TIME. ASKING THAT

[130:06] WE'RE ENTERING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IMMEDIATELY AND I WENT TO NEWAY I'M WE ALL VOTED TO GO FORWARD. IN JANE'S IN THAT PROCESS AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING TO BE IN WITH REGARD TO YOUR NEARBY WHEN YOUR CURRY.UM I I HAD TO WORK FULL TIME ALL TO THE NINE TIME ON COUNCIL AND UM. AND THERE WASN'T NEGOTIATED THE COULD I COULD I WORK LESS HOURS SO I CAN DO MORE TIME AS COUNCIL THAT JUST WOULDN'T FLY.IT WAS THAT IF I WAS GOING TO BE ON COUNCIL. EVERYTHING THAT THEY DID WAS GOING BEFORE COUNCIL WOULD BE OUT OF WORK AND SO. IT IS A SACRIFICE AND IT IS A

[131:00] BIG THING TO TAKE ON I THINK WE'VE LAID SOME IF YOUR CONCERNS. BY HIRING OR SETTING IN MOTION THIS PROCESS AND LET'S SEE HOW PEOPLE USE USE IT UM AND I AGREE WITH BOB I MEAN I CAN CALL. OR EMAIL ANY STAFF PERSON AND USUALLY I'LL COPY GENE OR ARE YOU KNOW AND I CAN GET A RESPONSE TO MY ANSWERS THEM PRETTY SATISFACTORILY SWEET. CHATTER AT THE SAME IN THE NEW SO I WANT TO SEE OTHER'S ROOMS WITH THE PILOT THAT WE'VE GOT SET UP.I'M CURIOUS FOR ME I WOULDN'T HAVE ANYONE LOOK AT MY E MAILS.I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY MY RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF.I WOULD FURTHER BE CONCERNED IF WE HAD FOLKS WHO ARE READING OUR E MAILS ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE CONFIDENTIAL MEMO US.I MEAN THAT SOMETHING WOULD I

[132:00] TAKE IS EXTREMELY CONCERNING IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO ACCIDENTALLY OPEN ONE AND TEMPTING NOT TO CLOSE IT. EMAIL BEFORE HIM AND SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN BUT I HAVE REGARDLESS OF HOW WE DO THIS I READ WELL INTENDED USES PERSON IS A RESEARCH RESOURCE.I MEAN THAT'S THE THING THAT I USUALLY FIND MYSELF DROPPING OFF WHICH IS HEY I WANNA KNOW WANNA SEE THOSE PACKETS FROM BEFORE. I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR CHARTER CHANGE QUITE YET TO DO IT.PALM COAST TO MY LAST JUST COME IN IS THAT. ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE BERKELEY COUNCIL IS THAT I'M ONE OF THE PERSONS WHO AS AN ASSISTANT RAN FOR COUNCIL

[133:00] AND IS NOW ON NOW. SO WE'LL SEE WHETHER THIS NEWLY BROUGHT ASSISTANT THINKS AFTER DEALING WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT IT WOULD BE A WISE THING TO RUN FOR COUNCIL. FOR THE FIRST SET PERSON WOULD HAVE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE CITY THE KITTY FELL THROUGH BUT I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF MORE TO GO AHEAD.THANK YOU SO THE NEXT IS THE POTENTIAL BALLOT ITEMS IN THE FUTURE AND I WILL GO THROUGH THIS WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE UNFUNDED NEEDS HERE AT THE CITY. BACK IN APRIL AND AS YOU KNOW ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS PRETTY LARGE AND AT THAT MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OPTIONS TO TO BE ABLE TO FIND THIS IN THE FUTURE.ONE WAS REDUCING THE CURRENT EXPENSES AND PROGRAMS THAT ALREADY EXIST. AND THEN ALSO

[134:01] USING ONE TIME MONEY WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH RESERVE SURPLUS FUNDS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND THEN FINALLY IT WOULD BE POTENTIAL. EXPIRATION OR EXTENDING OF EXPIRING TAXES. AND ARE ADDING NEW TAXES SO AS A REMINDER PROPERTY TAX WE CURRENTLY UTILIZE ABOUT ELEVEN POINT NINE MILLS OF OUR THIRTEEN ALLOWED UNDER THE CHARTER. AND ONE MILL EQUATES TO ABOUT THREE POINT SIX MILLION A YEAR.THIS IS GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN ASSESSED VALUES THIS YEAR WE ANTICIPATE THIS NUMBER TO BE CLOSER TO FOUR MILLION AFTER THE SHARE. SALES AND USE TAX OUR CURRENT RATE IS THREE POINT EIGHT SIX IN THE NEXT IDOL. DISCUSS THE REDUCTION OF POINT ONE FIVE. IN ABOUT TWO POINT ONE CENT OF SALES AND USE TAX EQUATES TO THREE POINT THREE MILLION A YEAR IF WE MOVE OFF JUST A REALLY QUICK EDUCATION QUESTION IN THE BACK SLIDE DECKS.YEAH I GET THE FACT THAT OUR CHARTER

[135:00] LIMIT IS THIRTY MILLS IN PROPERTY TAX IF. HE IS ELEVEN POINT NINE EIGHT ONE THE TABOR LIMIT OF OUR OUR MILITARY COULD WE GO FROM ELEVEN NINE EIGHT ONE TO THIRTEEN. OUR OWN OR WITH ACTIVISTS OF TICKET IN FOR A VOTE REGARDLESS OF THE CHARTER BELIEVE IT WOULD TAKE A TAPE OR VOTE YES ON THE THIRTEEN WOULD REQUIRE GOVERNMENT CANDIDATE CRACKED. THANKS THANKSSO THE NEXT SLIDE. HOPES I WAS HOPING THIS WOULD ALL COME UP THAT ONE SORRY ABOUT THIS. TIME YOU SAW THIS AT THE STUDY SESSION IN TWENTY TWENTY WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXPIRATION OF THE TRANSPORTATION TAX. BUT BECAUSE AUSTIN PEAY IS ESSENTIALLY TRANSFERRING POINT ONE FIVE TO TRANSPORTATION AND THE NET EFFECT FOR TRANSPORTATION IS ZERO AND THE NET EFFECT FOR AUSTIN PEAY IS THE NEGATIVE.

[136:03] POINT ONE FIVE CENTS SO THAT'S THE WAY THE EXPIRING TAX AND TWENTY TWENTY THE NEXT TO EXPIRE WOULD BE OUR COMMUNITY CULTURE IN SAFETY TAX. THE LESS YOU KNOW THAT ONE WAS SANTA HAS BEEN DONE AND FOR YOUR CHANCE TO TAKE FOUR YEARS AS CHURCH HISTORIAN. SO HERE'S SOME POTENTIAL ITEMS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT TONIGHT THE FIRST IS THAT EXPIRING POINT ONE FIVE CENT. FROZEN PEA OR IT CAN BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES IF YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT AND THEN IF YOU HAVE.WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THESE OTHER ITEMS BUT IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE THAT CAN ANSWER THEM.IT WAS LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT ONE OF JUST OKAY JUST WANNA CLARIFY FOR THE NOBLE ART DISTRICT.I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT OUTLOUD AND MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF IT.WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A ROLE AND I DECIDED IT'S USEFUL TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ABOUT. AND JUST CLARIFIED THAT THAT WOULD BE PUT TO A VOTE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE NORTH POLE DARTS ARE SO VERY SMALL SUBSET OF CAMI WOULD LEAVE THIRTY SEVEN AN END.YOU KNOW I THINK I FOR ME

[137:11] I'D BE HAPPY TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. BECAUSE IT WILL BE VOTED ON BY ONLY THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT AND SO I'M FINE PUTTING THAT ON AND LET THEM DECIDE IT RIGHT. FRIDAY PEOPLE AWARE THAT THAT'S GOING TO COME TO US AND MAYBE THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO SAY THAT THE USA SO. DATED FOREIGN LABOR IN DARK SUITS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL TWENTY TWENTY OH THAT'S OH WAIT A MINUTE COMEBACK OF THAT'S NEW INFORMATION.IT'S TOTALLY NEWYET THEY JUST HAD A MEETING RIGHT FOR THIS SO I'M THE COUNTY ASSESSOR AND REVISE THE LIST OF VOTERS IN THE PAST WEEK.I'M SO THEY'RE TWENTY BUSINESS OWNERS THAT THEY DID HAVE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR AND SO THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO. REVISE AND POSTPONE

[138:04] A NAME FOR TWENTY TWENTY ELECTION NO DECISION HAS BEEN MADE BUT THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR INTENT. FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE TO INDICATE THEY WANT TO CORRUPT WENT ONE FOR THE NORTH BOULDER BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.OK WELL I GUESS WE'LL BE UP TO THEM WHETHER THEY BRING IT FOR THAT.OK ENOUGH ON THAT.WHAT DOES ONE NICE THING THOUGH THE COUNCIL DOES NOT PUT THE PAPER MACHE OR ON THE BALLOT FOR THE DISTRICT THE DISTRICT WILL DO THAT AND THE COUNCIL HAS. A PLACE AT THE TABLE IN THE FORMATION OF THE DISTRICT IS JUST LIKE WE DID FOR THE DOWNTOWN BID WAY CORRECT.OK SO SHE SHOWED UP WITH THE OPEN SEAS ONE. MAYBE IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WEIRD AND UN COME UP FROM A GAS CANISTER WITH A QUESTION ABOUT THAT DUMB. CAN

[139:04] YOU TELL US THAT WE HEARD ABOUT THE LAST LITTLE BIT IN PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE PREPARING FOR DECLINED TO TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT. HAVING THE INSPIRING EXPIRING TAXES DOING TO HOME FUNCTIONS THAT WE EXPECT AN OPEN SPACE DEPARTMENT. WILL DETAIL WHAT THE SOUL OF JANUARY FIRST OF THIS YEAR JANUARY FIRST OF NEXT YEAR. WE ARE LOSING SEEN ABOUT NINETY TO NINE MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE SALES TAX BASED ON A POINT ONE ONE. EXPIRATION THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR AND THEN THE POINT ONE FIVE WHICH HAPPENED JANUARY FIRST OF TWENTY TWENTY.THERE IS ALSO THE ELEMENT THAT SENSE THE MERGER OF OPEN SPACE AND PARKS DEPARTMENT TWO THOUSAND WHEN WE ARE RECEIVING A GENERAL FUNDS TRANSFER AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. THAT EXPIRES THIS YEAR AS WELL SOPHIE AT ALL THAT UP.WE KNEW A GOOD THING AS WE KNEW ALL THIS WAS COMING SO WE KNEW WE'RE DEALING WITH ABOUT A MILLION DOLLAR REDUCTION ABOUT THIRTY PERCENT REDUCTION IN REVENUE. SO IF WE STARTED REALLY PLANNING EARNESTLY FOR THIS

[140:00] ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. AND SET OURSELVES UP SO WE SET OURSELVES UP IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE PRIMARILY AND STILL ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE REDUCTIONS WITHOUT NECESSARILY CUTTING. WHOLE PROGRAMS BUT OUR WHOLE PHILOSOPHY HAS BEEN SCALING BACK IN PHASING IN STRETCHING OUT SO CALM.WE ALSO HAVE BEEN APPROACHING IT FROM THE STAFFING LEVELS OF OF OF LOOKING AT STAFFING THROUGH ATTRITION RATHER THAN LAYING FOLKS OFF. SO THE ATTRITION STRATEGY SEEMS TO BE HOLDING AND INSTEAD OF CUTTING WHOLE PROGRAMS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO THINK WE HAVE TWENTY TWENTY BUDGET WHICH WERE SCALING BACK. INSTEAD OF LIKE ELIMINATING FULL PROGRAM SO THOSE TWO IT'S BEEN OUR PRIMARY PHILOSOPHIES OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS AND GOING FORWARD.SO JUST TO CLARIFY THE SUM TOTAL OF WHAT HE DID DECLINE WOULD BE SAY THAT AGAIN AROUND TEN MILLION FOR INTEL THE NIKON SALSA FROM A GENERAL FUND TRANSFER GET USED.IT'S BEEN TAKING

[141:06] PLACE SINCE TWO THOUSAND ONE THAT WILL NO LONGER HAPPEN AND THAT'S A TOTAL BUDGET OF ONE. SO WE ARE GOING FROM ROUGHLY ABOUT A LOW THIRTY S TO LOW TWENTIES SO. IT WAS SHOWN WAS THE POINT ONE ONE FOUR EXPIRED CERT AS YOU SAID THERE WAS A YEAR IS A POINT ONE ONE THAT EXPIRED JANUARY FIRST.THIS YEAR AND ONE POINT ONE FIVE ONE ONE WAS THAT DEDICATED.YES AND THAT WAS THAT'S REPURPOSED I THINK THAT'S JUST NOW GONE EXCEPT FOR WHAT WAS. INTENDED FOR WAS A PLANNED ACQUISITION OR WOULD YOU THINK. THE DRIVER FROM MY RECOLLECTION OF LOOKING AT THESE SAYINGS IS THEY TENDED TO BE PASSED ALONG WITH THE ACQUISITION PLANNING. IT WASN'T SPECIFIED FOR THAT BUT I THINK THE INTENT WAS TO SUPPORT THE ACQUISITION PLANNING OVER THE PAST SO. THERE'S NO LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT BUT IN READING BETWEEN THE LINES

[142:00] I WOULD THINK THAT THAT COULD'VE BEEN A PRIMARY MOTIVATION CAN HANDEDLY SU LIN. WAS JUST GOING TO COLLEGE KOREAN SEEMS QUESTION AGAIN THAT IS. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YEAR THE TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN TAX THE POINT ONE ONE. WIN IN TO EFFECT WAS VOTED FOR AND THEN THE RECENT LATER TAX WHICH THE TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN TAX THAT'S GOING TO EXPIRE.THAT IS THE POINT ONE FIVE.I JUST DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THOSE WERE PUT ON THE BALLOT AND THEY WERE PUT ON AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND HAD DIFFERENT LINKS SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET YEAH. YOU GET THE FACTS THAT MAY BE BUT CAIDEN PUT WHEN THEY WERE ENACTED SO AND SO DID I THINK THAT COULD HELP ANSWER AND WERE RIGHT.

[143:01] WE WERE FROM SPECIFIC FOR ANYTHING AND TO REMARRY AND TWO ACES AND SORRY I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ONE IS IN. THE TEN MILLION DOLLARS TO WHAT EXTENT THE HOME SAYS THAT AFFECT ONGOING OPERATIONS VERSUS ACQUISITIONS AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE. THE ACQUISITIONS WERE SORT OF LEVELING OFF AND THAT WE WERE MOVING MORE TOWARDS MAINTAINING WHAT WE HAVE SO UM SO AS. TO WHAT EXTENT DOES THAT. HOW DOES THAT WORK THE TEN MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT MOST. WOULD SAY THE GREATEST PERCENTAGE ABOUT SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF THAT SAVINGS OR DEBT REDUCTION IS TO OUR CIP PROGRAM. SO WE ARE AT AROUND A TEN MILLION DOLLARS CIP PROGRAM THIS YEAR GOING TO TWENTY TWENTY.WE ARE BUDGETING ABOUT THREE POINT SIX TWO THREE POINT EIGHT C I P. SO ART ARE KEPT ARE LARGER PROJECTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SORT OF BEING. PUT ASIDE SCALE BACK OR DEFERRED IN ORDER TO ACCOUNT FOR ROUGHLY ABOUT SIX MILLION OF THAT TEN MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WE ALSO

[144:03] ARE GOING TO BE HAVING SOME DEBT. DEBT SAVINGS FROM ACQUISITION BALANCE THAT WE. THAT WE TIMED IN A WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PAID OFF BY THE TIME THESE REDUCTIONS HIT. SO THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ANOTHER ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT REDUCTION THAT WERE NO LONGER HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR AND THEN THE BS YOU KNOW THE REST WOULD. HAVE TO COME FROM SOME OPERATIONAL BUDGETS BUT FROM THE ACQUISITION STANDPOINT AND TWENTY SIX EIGHTEEN.OUR LAND MINERAL AND WATER ACQUISITION BUDGET WAS AROUND FIVE POINT EIGHT MILLION AND TWENTY TWENTY AT SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND SO THAT'S THAT'S. ONE OF THE BIG MAJOR WAYS THAT WE ARE. ACCOUNTING FOR THE REDUCTION AS I SAID THE OTHER WAYS THAT WERE DOING OUR STRETCHING PROJECTS A LOT LONGER SO WE HAVE ABOUT A PENNY WHERE OUR TRAILS MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.WE HAVE DONE AN ASSESSMENT THROUGHOUT OUR WHOLE SYSTEM OF TRAILS THAT ARE EITHER IN NEED MODERATE OR SUBSTANTIAL REPAIR AND SOME REPLACE.WE ESTIMATED WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF ANYWHERE FROM THIRTY TO FORTY MILLION DOLLARS WITH THAT.SO INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE

[145:04] TO AGGRESSIVELY ATTACK IT WE DO WHAT WE CAN EVER YEAR TO SORT OF TRY TO BRING ART TRAIL SEGMENTS AND TO SORT OF ROUTINE MAINTENANCE.SO THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ABLE TO JUST STRETCH STRETCH ALONG RATHER THAN SAY NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANY OF THAT. WERE SET THE CHICKEN PIECES OF IT WHERE WE CAN'T BE AS AGGRESSIVE AS WE WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE FORMER SCENARIO AND DOESN'T CARE MAINTENANCE.UM NUMBERS YOU JUST INDICATED THEY INCLUDE THE INVOLVEMENT OF VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE A REALLY WE HAVE. ABOUT TWO STEPPING ALL THEY DO IS COORDINATE VOLUNTEER CREWS UNDER OUR SYSTEM SO WE HAVE A BIG VOLUNTEER LEVERAGING PROGRAM IN PLACE. SO THAT AS A COMFORTER AND MY OTHER QUESTION WAS UM HE MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE DOING.AVOIDING LAYOFFS BY DOING ON THE STAFF REDUCTIONS THROUGH ATTRITION.I WAS

[146:07] CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY. HOW MUCH STAFF IS IN NO SNP AND WHAT KIND OF ATTRITION YOU EXPECT TO SEE. WELL ATTRITION SORT OF HARD TO PREDICT YOU JUST CAN'T TAKE YOUR BEST GUESS RIGHT THE TARGETS IN FURTHER REDUCTIONS IN ORDER TO A LIFE. OF SO OF ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN FULL TIME STAFF OF COURSE WHEN ALL THE SEASONS COME AND WE HAVE LOTS OF CREWS THAT COME IN FOR. A SEASONAL POSITIONS TO WORK YOU KNOW WE WE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF CAPACITY DURING THE SUMMER AND THE WORK MONTHS AS FAR AS OUR TRAIL SYSTEM BUT. IN TERMS OF OUR FULL LEFTY EASE IF FOR INSTANCE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE SORT OF GUESS IMMENSE AND WHEN THE ATTRACTIONS MAY TAKE PLACE OVER A SPAN OF YEARS. THE NEXT PLACE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS HAVING FEWER CREWS OUT ON OUR SYSTEM SO FEWER TRAIL CREWS FUEL RESTORATION CREWS. AND LOOKING TOWARDS TEMPER TEMPER IN SEASON ELSE AND THEN IF WE NEED TO GO FURTHER THAN THAT WE WOULD START TO LOOK AT A FULL TIME LEFT TO EASE. THE REASON WE'RE TRYING

[147:03] TO SAE NOT TOUCH THE FULLTIME LEFTIES AT THIS POINT IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF CORE SERVICES TAKE PLACE A LOT OF YOU KNOW AH. THOSE ESSENTIAL THINGS LIKE NEW AGAIN IF WE HAVE TO LOOK IF WE WANTED TO SAY OK LET'S ELIMINATE ONE OF OUR TRAIL CREWS THAT'S THAT'S A CREW OF FOUR. AND NOW B O O WAY FOR US TO DO SOME REDUCTIONS AGAIN WITHOUT WITHOUT TOUCHING OUR FULL TIME STAFF TAKE IT YEAR ROUND PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY BUT. THE SORT OF THE OVERALL PHILOSOPHY WERE GOING WITH BUT LIKE I SAID SO FAR THE PLAN FOR LOOKING AT IT. ATTRITION AND EVERYTHING IS HOLDING. SO WE'RE GOING TO TWENTY TWENTY WE FEEL LIKE A REASONABLE POSITION OF WHAT WE STARTED PLANNING FOR BACK IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN. OK IF HE'D DONE FIVE THE CITY THEN REESE. THINKS HOPEFUL AND YOU MENTION THAT THE WOULD SEE SOME REDUCTIONS WOULD HAVE LESS MONEY FOR ACQUISITIONS. IS ER UM FUND BALANCE RIGHT

[148:00] NOW FOR ACQUISITIONS THAT WERE A FEW OF THEM DEDICATED FUNDS THAT ARE KIND OF SET ASIDE.OPTIMISTICALLY FOR ACQUISITIONSYES SO ANOTHER STRATEGY WITH ANOTHER STRATEGY TO PUT IN PLACE IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN IS TO OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT VERY ONLY HIGH PRIORITY ACQUISITIONS. AND FUN FUN AT THE CIP LEVEL EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT USE AT ANY GIVEN YEAR SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CARRY OVER. SOME FUNDS IN ORDER TO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT NINE MILLION DOLLARS IN CARRY OVER WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO GET THAT SEVEN HUNDRED WHILE CONTINUING NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN. GOING TWO OR THREE YEARS SINCE A COUPLE HIGH PRIORITIES.IT WOULD STILL ALLOW US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE COUPLES THAT WERE THAT COUPLE THAT OF ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS OF HIGH PRIORITY ACQUISITIONS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UNDER THOSE SCENARIOS IF THOSE ONE OR TWO ACQUISITIONS HAPPENED THAT WE WILL BE FULLY DEPENDENT ON OUR ANNUAL CIP ALLOCATION GOING FORWARD. AND TO GIVE AN

[149:06] EXAMPLE A SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU MUCH BUT FORTUNATELY WE ARE LITTLE BUFFER WITH HAVING SOME CARRY OVER IN THAT ACQUISITION CIP FOR TWENTY NINE MILLION YEARS TO PROTECT. THE SOAP MINE ALSO HAD TO DO WITH THE ACQUISITIONS HOW MUCH OF THE ACQUISITION. PLANNING PROGRAM HAS BEEN FULFILLED IN THESE FIFTY YEARS CLASS SO WE ABOUT EVERY DECADE WEEK SORT OF TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT WHAT WE VIEW AS POTENTIAL PUZZLE PIECES PRIORITY PIECES THAT REMAIN.WE ARE TESTAMENT AND IN FRONT OF THIS GOING TO THIS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS GOING TO TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT MAPS AND WE ARE AND WHERE THERE'S AN HOLDINGS. WHERE STRETCHES OF FOR INSTANCE A BOULDER CREEK THAT ARE STILL MISSING FROM OUR MANAGEMENT RESTORATION PIECES AND SOME LARGE HABITAT BLACKS. AND WE ARE ESTIMATING ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT SEVEN TO NINE THOUSAND ACRES. WOULD REMAIN OF LAND THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST FOR US TO LOOK AT AND THAT'S A NET SALES WOULD ALL BE THAT

[150:00] WE WOULD. WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF EACH INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY WOULD ALL RISE TO THAT PRIORITY LEVEL. BUT AT THAT TAKING A BROAD SYSTEM I'D LOOK SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT. JUST DO SIMPLE MATH IF WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT AROUND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FIFTY THOUSAND ACRES IN HER SYSTEM NOW. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW A LITTLE UNDER TEN AND YOU KNOW WE'RE. WORKING TO WELL OVER EIGHTY EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT COMPLETE YES. AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION AND WHETHER OR NOT THE OTHERS ARE I MEAN IN TERMS OF FINDING WHAT YOU NEED TO FILL IN HOW HOW BECAUSE I KNOW. IN THE EARLY TIMES OF THE OPEN SPACE SYSTEM.THERE WERE THAT THE ACQUISITIONS WERE SPELLED OUT NOT NECESSARILY TOO LOUDLY SO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH COMPETITION FROM THE . BUT I AM AND THAT'S WHAT I WONDERED HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH FULFILLED AND YOU SEE ABOUT EIGHTY FIVE AT EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT.YEAH THINK YOU DO

[151:04] HAVE THAT NUMBER FIGURES FOR THE SEVEN THOUSAND AND NINE THOUSAND ACRES. YOU WHAT THE CLARIFICATION WHAT THAT IS TO SAY I'VE BEEN HERE IF YOU ARE GOING TO GUESS HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST.WELL I WE ALSO WE HAVE A CURRENT ACQUISITION PLAN THAT RAN FROM TWENTY THIRTEEN EXPIRES THIS YEAR TWENTY NINETEEN.WE ARE PER ACRE COST OF THE ACQUISITIONS OF THE LAST SIX YEARS HAS BEEN ABOUT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS AN ACRE. WITH CAVIAR DISASTROUS THAT BY SAYING THAT A FEW OF OUR LARGER ACQUISITIONS OVER THE SIX YEARS HAS BEEN ACQUIRING LANDS THAT WERE ENCUMBERED BY CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.SO THOSE ARE LANDS THAT WE PROTECTED.PERHAPS THEY STILL ALLOWED SOME BUILDING SITES BUT A LOT OF THE ACQUISITION POTENTIAL FOR LA TO DEVELOP POTENTIALS ARE TO REMOVE FROM THE CE. AND AND ACQUIRED THE UNDERLYING SHE STEPPED OUT OF COURSE WOULD BRING DOWN THE PER ACRE VALUE SO.

[152:02] ONE WAY THAT WE LIKE TO DESCRIBE AN ACQUISITION ABOUT THIRTY FIVE ACRE OF THIRTY FIVE ACRE SITE THAT HAS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AROUND TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS. PER SE OF RAW LAND BUT EVERY ACQUISITION IS DIFFERENT.THE LARGER THE PIECE THAT LOWER THE PER ACRE VALUE BUT OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND ACRES WOODS BUT IT AVERAGED OUT TO BE. A LEASE AND THEN HERE'S THE THING TEACHER SAYING UM EVERY YEAR WE GET MORE VISITORS COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM VISITING.CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME KIND OF A NUMBER ABOUT WHAT THAT INCREASE IS WELL IT'S OUR LATEST COUNT WAS ABOUT SIX POINT TWO MILLION DOLLAR VISITS. WHICH IS MORE THAN ROCKY MOUNTAIN NATIONAL PARK FOR EXAMPLE IN YELLOWSTONE. A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE THAT WOULD SAY THAT BOULDER WAS NOT ALONE IN THAT VIEW LOOK AT THE OTHER FRONT RANGE OPEN SPACE SYSTEMS THEY SAW A PRETTY SIMILAR INCREASES.IT'S QUITE THE TALK FROM WHEN WE GET TOGETHER AS OPEN SPACE DEPARTMENT'S TO TALK ABOUT VISITATION IT'S IT'S ON

[153:00] EVERYBODY'S MIND.YOU KNOW ONE OF OUR PRIMARY STRATEGIES THAT. WE SEE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS IS JUST BEING ABLE TO INCREASE OUR PRESENCE OUT IN THE SYSTEM AS A WAY TO RANGERS. AND EDUCATION STAFF OF MO WHAT WE TEND TO FIND AND WHAT OUR INCLINATION AS IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A RANGER FOR IB EDUCATION STAFFING TO BE VOLUNTEERS. BUT I THINK JUST HAVING A PRESENCE ON THE SYSTEM WORD INCREASED COMPLIANCE.IT WOULD DECREASE CONFLICT AND SO ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES WERE LOOKING AT IS HOW CAN WE HAVE MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND MORE PRESENTS AT OUR MAJOR TRAIL HEADS. WELCOMING PEOPLE OF THAT SORT OF THING. THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU KNOW FOR INSTANCE IF WE HAD ADDED CAPACITY THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND SUGGESTS VISITATION AND USES. THOSE ARE IN CURRENTLY ARE YOU PUTTING MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONSTITUTE THE ARE YOU KNOW FROM OUR RANGER PERSPECTIVE.I MEAN OUR STAFFING IT IS PRETTY SAD.WE

[154:10] CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT STRATEGIES OF HOW TO UTILIZE VOLUNTEERS HOW THE EDUCATION STAFF AND THE RANGER STAFF TO COME TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOME. SOLUTIONS IN SOME VARIETY FROM A RANGER STANDPOINT AND EDUCATION STAFF IT'S IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT INCREASING LEFTIES ME SO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT MORE CREATIVE WAYS TO. CAN WE HAVE PRESENCE ON THE FRIDAY SATURDAY SUNDAY AND USING VOLUNTEER GROUPS TO VOLUNTEER FOR THE DATA THAT KIND OF THING BUT JUST CURIOUS DO YOU GUYS HAD INTERPRETERS. IN FACT WE JUST GRADUATED FOURTEEN VOLUNTEER NATURALISTS SCHOOLS I ATTENDED THE CEREMONY THEY GO THROUGH AN ELEVEN WEEK TRAINING WITH OUR STAFF AND SO THEY HELP. AYDEN ARE NOW ABLE TO LEAD. GROUPS COMMUNITY GROUPS OUT IN OUR SYSTEM AND TO SOME INTERPRETATION AND THAT SORT OF THING. WE DO AND THEN UM

[155:03] WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT RECENTLY BUT I'M STILL NOT TOTALLY CLEAR. THAT HOW MUCH OF OPEN SPACE FUNDS ARE GOING INTO THE PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW OPEN SPACE FACILITY HOW HOWARD HAS THAT AFFECTED OUR UM OUR BUDGET SO WE ARE IN THEM.I'M SAYING THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED A NEW FACILITY SO. SO WE ARE AS MOST OF US MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT WE. MOVED OUT OF ARCHER LOCATION BECAUSE OF HEALTH SAFETY CONCERNS THE BUILDINGS NEEDED UPGRADES CAN BE DONE WITH US THERE WE ALSO GREW OUT OF IT.THEY'RE BUILT IN THE EARLY AND MID LATE NINETIES WHEN OUR STAFF WAS MUCH LOWER.SO NOW WE'RE IN THE HUB TWENTY FIVE TWENTY FIFTY FIFTH STREET.WE HAVE MADE THE DECISION JUST IN THE PAST MONTH TO DEFER OUR FEASIBILITY PLANNING FOR PERMANENT CAMPUS.WE HAD SOME CIP MONIES THAT WERE GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO STUDIES. AND WE JUST ANNOUNCED OR STAFF

[156:00] THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS WHICH MEANS THAT OUR PRESENCE IN OUR CURRENT LOCATION IS GOING TO CONTINUE.I FOR ONE AT OUR DIRECTOR'S TEAM WE JUST COULDN'T JUSTIFY CUTTING PROGRAMS AND ARE FISCALLY CONSTRAINED ENVIRONMENT AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING A PERMANENT CAMPUS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.I THINK IT MIGHT PROBABLY WILL BE A NEED TO. RESURRECT THAT CONVERSATION WE JUST DIDN'T WE JUST FELT LIKE RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE TIME OR PLACE IN MY FINAL QUESTION IS THIS YEAR WE HEAD.UM WE RESUMED TRIBAL DISCUSSIONS AND ERM WE PAID FOR OPEN SPACE IS MY UNDERSTANDING PAID FOR ALL. NOT WORKING WHAT WOULD WE ASSUME SOME OF THOSE COSTS ALONG WITH GENERAL FUNDS BUT IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIT ME ON A SOMEWHAT REGULAR BASIS

[157:00] SO THAT WE DON'T WAIT ANOTHER TEN YEARS. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW IS THAT CAN GO FORWARD IN TERMS OF HOW THAT IS SPENT BECAUSE. NATIVE PEOPLE LIVED IN ALL OF BOULDER NOT JUST OPEN SPACE AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS FOR THAT OR CAN COME FROM.WE HAVEN'T COMPLETELY DECIDED BUT IT WILL BE PARTLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND PARTLY FROM THE OPEN SPACE AND WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR THE OPEN SPACE. BECAUSE A NUMBER OF THE LANDS THAT WE OWNED IN OPEN SPACE.OUR LANDS OF EXTREME INTEREST FOR THAT RHYMES THAT WAS A TOUGH BREAK FOR IT.THANK YOUOK AARON QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER SWITCH THAT INNING ON SCHEDULED AT THE END OF THIS YEAR IS TO MAKE SURE WHAT WAS. I BELIEVE IT ENDED ON JANUARY FIRST TWENTY NINE TEAM HAS ALREADY ENDED.OK SO

[158:03] THAN JANE OUR CURRENT BUDGETS THAT INCLUDED MILLION MORE IN THE GENERAL FUND THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO OPEN SPACE FUNDS ARE CORRECT. I GUESS YOU COULD SAY NAP AND JUST LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR TO HAPPEN SO WAS THE GENERAL FUND AND SO WE HAD.IT'S NOT LIKE WE FOUND A MILLION DOLLARS IN BOOK WE BOOKED THE MONEY IN OTHER WAYS IT WAS AN OMEN WAY IMPLYING THE SINGER AND JUST REPRESSED WRITE A CHECK ON SOME NEW PATH.I JUST MEANT THAT ITS ALLOCATED TO THE GENERAL FUND AS A JUNIOR THIS YEAR GUESTS AND NOT THE OPEN SPACE. THE THANK YOU CINDY.I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY FOLLOW UP AND WHAT LISA SAID ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE FUNDING. SOME OF THESE TRAVEL MEETINGS I DON'T QUITE FOLLOW AND THAT IT SEEMS TO ME IT SHOULD BE THIS CITY'S GENERAL FUND.IT DOES DO THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WOULD COME OUT OF OPEN SPACE INTEREST IN LANDS THERE WERE PROBABLY INTERESTS IN LANDS THAT WERE SITTING ON RIGHT THIS MOMENT AM.WE KNOW HER SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PART OF THE BUDGET CHANGED.SO

[159:13] LET'S PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SAY WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THIS QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE HOUSING STRUCTURES ON SOME OF HER OPEN SPACE LIKE OVER IN THE SIXTY THIRD.ARE YOU GUYS KNOW IT'S NOT SET FOR AN OFFICE BUT I MEAN COULD YOU GUYS USE SENIORS WERE ALREADY PAID FOR IT.COULD YOU USE THAT AS OFFICE SPACE TO WORK AT A PRESENT NOT VISIBLE YET. WE WOULD SAY FOR THE MOST PART OUR RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES THAT WERE ACQUIRED AS PART OF THE WHOLE LAND ACQUISITION PROGRAM IN HER PURCHASE TEAM THAT. HAD VERY LITTLE OF THEM PROBABLY WOULD BE USE FOR THAT PURPOSE BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING THINGS I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHEN I TOOK THIS POSITION.HAVING COME FROM REAL ESTATE IS THAT

[160:00] WE'RE WE ALWAYS INTENDED TO TO BE MORE ROBUST OF LOOKING AT WHAT IS WHAT WERE OUR USING THE CERTIFIED CERT THIRTY SIX STRUCTURES. IS WHAT HAS AN OPEN SPACE CHARTER PURPOSE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHICH ONES. EITHER DO NOT RIGHT NOW ARE SEVEN OPEN SPACE CHARTER PURPOSE FOR WHICH ONE. AND WHICH ONES DO NOT HAVE A HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF BEING ABLE TO DO THAT AND WE FINALLY HAVE LAUNCHED THAT WHOLE ANALYSIS AND WE HAVE A PROJECT CHARTER ON. AND SO WE'RE EXPECTING TO COMPLETE AT WITH THAT OVER THE NEXT. DEFINITELY WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR IN WHICH. WE LOVE LOOK AT EACH RED RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE IS BEING USED FOR AN EGG TEN AGRICULTURAL TEN FOR INSTANCE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE AN OPEN SPACE PURPOSES IF IT DOESN'T. THEN LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FORCE COULD WE SELL THEM AND THAT BE A WAY TO PAY BACK OR LAND A LAND ACQUISITION CIP. DEMONIC DECOMMISSIONED US REMOVED HOUSE BECAUSE. IN THAT WAY TO IMPROVE THE MANAGEMENT OF THE LAND BECAUSE LAND AND HOUSES IMPORTANT TO US. WE WANT TO

[161:00] REMOVE THE HOUSE AND JUST HAVE SOMEONE TAKE IT AWAY SO WE'LL BE COMING WITH A SUITE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EVERY RESIDENCE THAT WE OWN. AND I DON'T WANT TO DISMISS THAT COULD BE DAT WE MIGHT SAY. YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED RANGER PRESENCE IN THE FAR NORTH OF OUR SYSTEMS TO BE A GREAT HOUSE FOR RANGERS TO LAND WEATHER OUT THERE. YOU KNOW IN THAT PART OF THE SYSTEM OR THE FAR EAST SO IT'S NOT THE QUESTION THAT WE COULD FIND A DIRECT ADMINISTRATIVE USE FOR SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS BUT. I WOULD SAY THE UNLIKELY THANK YOU.OK SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND SAY AREN'T YET WE JUST. HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER I'M FOR THE SUMMER BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE THE ISSUE GO HERE BUT ONE MORE QUESTION YET BUT THAT COULD INFORM. THE EXTENT DOES THE MASTER PLAN THAT HASN'T BEEN PASSED YET AFFECT THE BUDGET PLANNING.WELL WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THREE SCENARIOS COME OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN PRIOR POSITION BASED ON OUR FISCALLY CONSTRAINED OUR CURRENT CONDITION.IF OF OUR SALES TAX IS RESTORED.HOW

[162:06] THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE PRIORITIZATION WHICH OF THESE PROJECTS AND STRATEGIES WOULD BE ABLE TO SCALE UP AND THEN OF COURSE THE THIRD SCENARIO THAT IF WE HAD OUR SALES TAX RESTORED.PLUS WE ARE ABLE TO DO SOME OTHER INNOVATIVE THINGS LIKE LOOK AT A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES LOOK AT THEM OR GETTING THE GRANTS COORDINATOR AND BE MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE AND GRANTS. THAT WOULD BE A THIRD FUNNY SCENARIO AND ALONG WITH EACH OF THOSE SCENARIOS. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE WE WOULD SCALE UP ON A HIGH PRIORITY LIST THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR INSTANCE. HOW MUCH MORE RESTORATION COULD WE ACCOMPLISH OUR SYSTEM YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE OR SOIL HEALTH INITIATIVES COULD WE COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH MORE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR FURRY DOG WORKING. WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS COULD WE COULD BE DUE UNDER THOSE OF EIGHT.THOSE THREE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS SO WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE WOULD SCALE UP AGAIN.WE ARE NOT DOING

[163:01] THE SPINE THE SKY ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE WOULD CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW PROGRAMMING BECAUSE THAT'S UNLIKELY WE KNOW OUR. FISCAL REALITY EVEN THE GREATEST SENSES AND GOING TO ALLOW US TO. DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW STUFF AGAIN WHERE WOULD REVEAL THE SCALE TO SCALE UP AND ACCELERATE HAS KIND OF HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THINGS TOO. WE'RE IN A STUDY THAT HERE FORTY FIVE MINUTES OR SOONER IF A COUPLE ISSUES SO I GUESS SOME OF WHICH GET COMPLICATED SO COURAGEOUS TO TROUBLE.LISA SUCH A CONTEXT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE AGREE WITH HER TO BE A SIZE SIX.OKAY I'M JUST REALLY CONSIDER WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO LEAD A CUP OF SOFT PART OF THE MATTER I GUESS THE QUESTION TO HAVE TIME. TO DO A TAX HOLE. HAD A COUPLE DIFFERENT LEVELS BEFORE WE MAKE FINAL DECISIONS HE WAS AFTER

[164:00] THE VOTERS AS OPPOSED TO SAY MORE ABOUT WHY YOU THINK YOU NEED MORE DATA THAN NINETY SEVEN PERCENT.WELL I'M NOT SURE IT WAS A GENERAL QUESTION WHICH IS WOULD YOU SUPPORT. TO GO TO TO TEST A CERTAIN LEVELS BUT I THINK IT. MADE ME DINNER WE ASKED WHAT THE QUESTION WAS AND I THOUGHT IT WAS TO EXTEND THAT WAS THE QUESTION HAS VERY SPECIFIC TO. THAT POINT ONE FIVE ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANNA TEST THE INCREASING POTATOES AND THIRTY SO DID THE QUESTION ASKED WOULD YOU. EXTEND THE POINT ONE FIVE AND CASH OUT IS WHAT IT COST THE AVERAGE PERSON'S HOME SO FORTH I JUST HAD A SIMPLE QUESTION.I'M NOT SURE HOW PACKED IT WITH ME ANYMORE FROM THE SEA URCHIN TONIGHT. OK QUESTION WAS PRETTY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TAX WHO SENT HIS POLL RESULTS LOOK IT UP. PROBABLY HERE IN WAYNE ARE GONNA BE THE LANGUAGE WAS TWENTY TINA BOULDER SALES TAX THAT SUPPORTED SNP EXPIRED

[165:00] BETWEEN NINETEEN ANOTHER WILL EXPIRE. TOGETHER THESE CHANGES REPRESENT A THIRTY PERCENT REDUCTION OF PROPORTION SEE SALES TAX DEDICATED TO SNP HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE A TAX MEASURE TO RESTORE PART. OR ALL OF THIS FUNDING FOR US AND THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT IS IS IS UM IS WE GET SAME RESULT A FIESTA.TYPICALLY WHEN WE GO OUT A TAX MEASURE THAT POLL WE ASKED ON THE POLE AND WE. TRANSLATE THAT AND THAT PEOPLE IN THE DOLLARS AND CENTS THIS WOULD COST YOU THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER OF A SALES TAX. DOLLARS ARE A HOMEOWNER THIS WOULD COST YOU THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS WHATEVER WE USUALLY ASK PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE I THINK. BUT WHAT THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WEEK IF WE RELY ON JUST THAT YOUR QUESTION BECAUSE THE TAX RE STORE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION. DO WE HAVE TIME TO TEST TO THE TYPICAL POLLING. WE GO OUT AND ASK A

[166:00] TAX MEASURE POUR THINK THEY CAN BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY USUALLY IN A MATTER OF FEW WEEKS OR MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS. WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION SO I GUESS. PROBABLY I JUST THINK THAT QUESTION WHICH IS WHERE THE TIMING OF CHANCES YES. YES THE QUESTION IS WOULD YOU ALL ENTERTAINED THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING A WHOLE DAY SO WE KNOW EYES WIDE OPEN WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO.WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE BALLOT MEASURE BY THE END OF AUGUST WE HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO DO THAT WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO. ADOPT IT AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST WE MIGHT BE HAVING TO WAIT UNTIL THE LAST DAY BUT WE HAVE TIME BUT WE ALL THINK ABOUT POLENTA STIR US UP TO. MUCH WILL THAT BE JAMES AT FIFTEEN THOUSAND.YEAH FIFTEEN TO TWENTY WILL COME OUT OF THE OPEN SPACE FUND AND I'M SORRY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO ME IT'S ONLY WORTH IT. TO ME I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE IS IF WE WANT TO INCREASE IT. BECAUSE THEN YOU NEED TO KNOW THE APPETITE FOR HOW MUCH BUT IT'S WITHOUT WAITING TAXES DO WANT TO EXTEND.I THINK THAT'S PRETTY

[167:01] STRAIGHTFORWARD AND WITH NINETY SEVEN PERCENT BELOW THE TREE.IT WOULDN'T BE WITHOUT RAISING TAXES BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY EXPIRED SO YOU KNOW IT THE HARD POINT ONE FIVE POINT ONE FIVE ONLY. ON THE INSIDE HAS BEEN REPURPOSED. POINT ONE ONE EXPIRED THE POINT ONE FIVE IS REPURPOSE. YOUR SITE ACTUALLY AT ONE EYE CRACKED ON THE POINT WHEN WORN AND ACTUALLY WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE GENERAL FUND THAT WAS FOR THE REDS THOUGH IT WAS NOT GOOD KNACK OL' WAY THOUGH.OH SOO WE JUST RE ALLOCATE WELL LET'S SEE OKAY THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. HERE SO THE ANSWER WOULD BE JUST I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING TONE QUICKLY FROM WRONG THAT SINCE THIS POINT ONE FIVE IS. BEING REPURPOSED TO TRANSPORTATION WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY WAS A TAX INCREASE OF THE HOUSE IN FACT IT WOULD BE A TAX INCREASE BUT I WAS MISTAKEN AT US IT WAS ANDY.YUP BUT

[168:04] THE FACT IS IS THAT. I THINK IT FITS WITHIN THE MEASURE WERE THE QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULD INCREASE TWO POINT ONE FIVE AND THEN YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT IT WAS OR WOULD INCREASE TWO POINT TWO SIX. BECAUSE SET RATES BEEN TAKEN FROM IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WON AT RE ASK THE QUESTION IF YOU THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT NINETY THREE PERCENT WHO ENTERED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.UM DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD BE A TAX INCREASE THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS IT MAY COME AT NIGHT THREE PERCENT WHICH IS GREAT WHEN WE GOT THE ANSWER HERE.TYPICALLY WHEN WE GO IN FOR A TAX TO TALK WITH US IN THE LIBRARY WHEN A SECOND GOING FOR TAX. CUTS WOULD BE TECHNICALLY INCREASE YET WE PUT DOLLARS AND FOR PEOPLE TO SO THAT WAS REALLY ABOUT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT. WHAT THIS COMES OUT TOO BUT I'M.

[169:03] NINETY PERCENT OF PEOPLE SAY YEAH WHICH CASE IS A NO BRAINER BUT. I THINK IT'S JUST A DATA POINT THE QUESTION YOU GUYS IS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE LINE ON THE NINETY THREE PERCENT FROM. TEN TO FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HAVE A HIGHER COMFORT ABOUT WHETHER IT REACHES THE CITIZEN SPECIAL USUALLY SAY YES I'M INTERESTED IN THE HIGHER COMFORT LEVEL.I ALSO THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO PUT THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST SO THEY. WERE NOT SURPRISED AS WELL IF WE I MEAN EIGHTY THREE PERCENT IS HIGH AND BE GREAT IF THE NINETY THREE PERCENT KNOWING HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PACE SAY YES.YEAH I GUESS SINCE I THOUGHT IT WAS IT CONTINUE.WE ARE JUST NOT HAVING EXPIRED MIGHT CHANGE MY THINKING.YES SHE WOULD MAKE FEEL MORE POWERFUL FOR YET MORE THAN ONE ITEM THAT WE RUN INTO POLAND.WE MAYBE WILL HAVE SOME OTHER ONES I ALSO THINK YOU MAY WONDER IS IT THAT EVERYONE WILL GET THE EYE AREA AND WOMEN. THE WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAN WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE

[170:00] AMOUNT OF FORETHOUGHT SIMPLY TO POINT ONE ONE IS A POINT ONE FIVE FOR EXAMPLE THEY MARRY AND THEN WE ARE.I FORGOT WE STOPPED TO TALK ABOUT LIBRARY CAN TAX ON SECOND HOMES WE SPEED THIS UP SO. IT'S THE REASON I DIDN'T RAISE MY HAND BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DECIDED NOT TO DO THIS YEAR WAS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX. MOM SO I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF OTHER CHARITIES THAT WE HAVE. AND NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING ONE OF THEM AND THEN WE HAVE JUST A LOT OF JUST GENERAL FUND CHALLENGES SO. IF WE'RE GOING TO PULL I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BE IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE INCLUDING A POTENTIAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX CAME HERE. TO SUPPORT THAT MANY

[171:00] AGREE BECAUSE IF I WAS GOING TO BRING UP TO HIS WORD WERE WE TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH MASTERFUL IN JUNE.I THINK BECAUSE IF IRAQ WERE UNDER FUNDING OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR ROADS IN OUR TRANSIT NEEDS IN THINGS LIKE THAT SO. I SUPPORT PUTTING IT IN OPEN SPACE TAX ON THE BALLOT THIS YEAR BUT WE MIGHT. ALSO SUPPORT PULLING ON A FEW OF OUR CRITICAL FUNDING NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT AND THE LEVELS OF TAX AND WHAT THE BALANCE OF TEXAS.OK SO LOOKS LIKE THERE'S APPETITE TO PUT TICKS FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT AND SOUNDS LIKE HIS APPETITE FOR DESIRE TO PULL. ON THESE TOPICS AND I'M GUESSING YOU'D NEED MORE GUIDANCE FROM US.LOTS MORE GUIDANCE ON AND I WAS GOING TO STAY IF THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS THAN JUST THE OPEN SPACE THAT OPEN SPACE ISN'T THE ONE PAYING FOR THE POLL. OK HOW ABOUT THIS.WE HAVE TWO

[172:07] OTHER TAXI EVERY THREE OR SO MAYBE BEFORE WE DECIDE ON POLLING ON THEIR WAY TO THE END OF THE NIGHT BUT WOULDN'T IT BE OKAY.I GUESS ONE THING IS DO WE HAVE A SENSE IF WE WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT. OR NOT THIS IS A QUICK CONVERSATION WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER WOULD BE OR DO WE WANT TO ASK STAFF TO FIGURE THAT OUT. YOU KNOW POINT ONE ONE POINT ONE FIVE OR SOMETHING ELSE I WOULD WANT LEE TO LOOK AT IT IN A COUPLE WAYS.WOULD IT BE POINT ONE FIVE FOUR POINT TWO SIX AND ERM BECAUSE WE BASICALLY EMPTIED. POINT TWO SIX OF THEIR FUNDING INTO OTHER PLACES. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TO MY. PURPOSE FOR

[173:02] TONIGHT TO TELL US TO DRESS SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR THE FIRST READING SO YOU COULD HAVE A HEARING ON THIS ITS SECOND READING SOMETIME IN JULY OR AUGUST. AND YOU COULD JUST IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A SENSE OF COUNSEL US WILL CARRY THIS FORWARD.NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE TO US WHETHER WE PUT IN POINT ONE FIVE POINT TWO SIX YOU CAN CHANGE THE NUMBER RIGHT UP UNTIL YOU PUT ON THE BALLOT BUT EVEYTHING. WE DO NEED TO BUY STEPS AND RUSSIA ON THE POLLING LEVELS.I THINK LISA'S GOT THE RIGHT NUMBERS I THINK WE SHOULD ASK THE COMMUNITY.ONE BY ONE OR THE PIANO DOLLARS POINT TWO SIX WITH OVER THE SABINE DOLLARS IN THAT DEPEND ON THOSE ANSWERS WE CAN THEN WE CAN THEN PREPARE THE ORDINANCE.WE MIGHT YOU MIGHT EARN THE POINT ONE ONE WHICH WAS TOGETHER INCREMENT THAT WILL TOWN. IS OUR ONE ONE FOUR OF THE WAY FROM POINT ONE FIVE AS CAN BE A DIFFERENCE FOUR POINT ONE WHICH IS. OK BUT LET'S LIST WOULD JUST ARGUE YOU CAN PUT SEVERAL NUMBERS AND WE'LL WORK ON IT AND FILL IN THE BLANK. WHEN IT COMES TO

[174:00] THE SECOND ONE PRESUMABLY PEOPLE COME UNTIL SIX A DEGREE BUT I THINK I THINK WITH PIANIST TOLD IS TONIGHT. YOU KNOW THERE IS SIGNIFICANT AND SO IT TOTALLY IS SIGNIFICANT I WILL NOTE THAT THE UM. BUT YEAH WE WERE AROUND WHEN. WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT ACCUSATIONS WERE STARTING TO PLATEAU AND SO HOW MUCH AND WE THINK MAYBE THERE'S A FEELING WE OVERSHOT. BUT IT STILL DOESN'T UNDO THE FACT THAT THERE'S SOME BUBBLING OFF WHEN WE'RE INCREASING VISITORS INCREASING NEEDS AND TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE MORE TYPES GOOD ENOUGH FOR NOW. WHAT ELSE TO HAVE NEXT TO THANK YOU.DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS ON THE ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES IN TAX ON SECOND HOMES BEFORE WE MOVED INTO THE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING AND THE LIBRARY OKAY TO TRY TO PUSH US SO GOOD.OK SO ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES.I AM

[175:05] STILL SOMEWHAT CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROVISION OF THE CHARTER THAT SAYS FOR VERIFICATION OF EVERY SIGNATURE THAT DOESN'T DEAL WITH ENDORSEMENTS.IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD IF YOU DON'T DEAL WITH IT THAT'S FINE BUT I DO HAVE A SORT OF CONCERT HAD ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY.WE'VE BAILED OUT THAT THAT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A CONCERN.SO BY ALL THE CONCERN IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE CHARTER THAT THAT WAS ADOPTED AT THE SAME TIME THAT SAYS THAT EVERY SIGNATURE TO THE BEST. POSSIBLE HAS TO BE VERIFIED BY THE CLERK AND DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE ENDORSEMENTS OR ELECTRONIC PETITIONS.I'M TROUBLED BY THAT IN KARATE.I THINK IT COULD BE THE BASIS FOR A FUTURE CHALLENGE AT SOME POINT I THINK WE CAN CORRECT IT EASILY WITH A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO THE CHARTER. OF THE END I THINK WE CAN DO IT BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT ELECTRONIC PETITION.SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION WAS AGAIN IT'S I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PROBABLY SURVIVE IF YOU DON'T DECIDE BUT SO CAN I JUST ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.SO

[176:09] YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO PUT THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ON THAT WOULD HELP WITH THIS. AND WE WOULD STILL GO FORWARD WITH THE ABSOLUTE TO. GET USED TO IT NOW BEFORE WE SEE A SOUL THAT HE GOT THAT SINCE A LESSON WE TAUGHT TO SEW MY COMFORT LEVEL HAS INCREASED.OKAY I DON'T KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S NECESSARY I DON'T KNOW HER GATE AND I WOULD AGREE HE'S IN IT WHICH WAS WHICH WAS NECESSARY IN THIS DECEMBER.THERE'S A CONCERN THAT IF YOU PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT PARENT FEELS FOR SOME REASON. IT WOULD LOOK LIKE GOING BACK ON ELECTRONIC PETITION GATHERING WHICH I DON'T PARTICULARLY WANT TO GO ON AND GUESS WHAT PEOPLE WANT SO. UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY VERY WORRIED ABOUT THIS LIKE IT'S A HIGH LEVEL OF CONCERN.I ALSO THINK WE SHOULD LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE AND GO

[177:00] FORWARD BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT WE MEANT AND I THINK WE WERE PRETTY CLEAN. AND JUST ADD ON THE SIMS CONCERNED I MEAN AFFILIATE COULD TORPEDO THE WHOLE THING IF IT IF IT FELL INTO MY CLIQUE BUT SIDES WOULD. AGREE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO REMEMBER. IF YOU GUESSED IT AIN'T A DISCREET TO. THE NEXT ONE HEX K. NEX WITH VACANT HOMES OF HOMES HEX. COOPER WILL BE SEEING IN OAKLAND CALIFORNIA HAVE BOTH PASSED TAXES ON VACANT HOMES TO FUND HOMELESS SERVICES OF THE IDEA IS THAT IF THE HOUSE IS SITTING VACANT.IT'S A SECOND HOME ESSENTIALLY AND IT'S NOT CONTRIBUTING TO ADDRESSING HOUSING ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY.SO OF OAKWOOD IS CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTING IT AS FAR AS I CAN SEE THEY'RE STRUGGLING WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ISSUES OF HOW YOU DO YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT A VACANT HOME IS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADDRESS AN EXPLORE. OF IS NO REASON WE CAN'T DO IT I WOULDN'T DO IT

[178:00] AS A PROPERTY TAX IS A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT PROPERTY TAXES WILL BE EQUAL.YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE IN PROPERTY TAXES WE COULD CERTAINLY DO IS AN EXCISE TAX OF OPELOUSAS ONE PERCENT OF THE EVALUATION. SO THAT THEY EXPECT IT WILL RAISE MONEY FOR ALMOST SERVICES. OF SUCH EXEMPTIONS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD EXPLORE. WE COULD WRAP SOMETHING UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE SHARM GENERALLY ARE IN FAVOR OF TAKING A LOOK AT THIS I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO GO HOME. AND ESPECIALLY TO FUNNEL MOST SERVICES ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EITHER ONE WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE OPTIONS A LITTLE MORE. RAM PROGRAM STRUCTURE COULD LOOK LIKE SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WERE MOVING PRETTY QUICK. TO JUST BE WRONG BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT ON THE WORK PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR AFTER NEW COUNCIL SEATED WE CAN TALK ABOUT AT WILL.THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MY THOUGHTS THAT

[179:00] IT SHOULD BE OR CLAN ITEM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULDN'T GET IT DONE IN TIME TO PUT IT BUT IT'S REALLY FASCINATING IDEA. YOU KNOW I LIKE THE IDEA OF A SEVEN DEGREES WAS SO TEMPTED TO PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR IF THE NEW COUNCIL WANTS WHAT ELSE WHICH ORDER YOU. BUT FOR THE NEXT IS THE MIDDLE INCOME DOWN PAYMENT PILOT PROGRAM IN DE EVENING JUST IN ITS HOUSING HUMAN SERVICES.SO BACK IN FEBUARY COUNCIL PROVIDED SOME DIRECTION ON THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO HELP HOUSEHOLDS PURCHASE OR MIDDLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS PURCHASE A HOME IN BOULDER.I'M BASICALLY JUST IS.THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE ASSISTANCE IN THE FORM OF A SECOND MORTGAGE IN EXCHANGE THE HOMEOWNER WOULD AGREE TO MAKE THAT HOME PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE.SO BACK IN

[180:01] FEBRUARY COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION ON THE FUNDING TO GIVE YOU FOUR OPTIONS TO SET FOCUS ON THE LINE OF CREDIT CONCEPT OF THE LOAN LOSS RESERVE.WE CONVENED A WORKING GROUP OF INDUSTRY EXPERTS LOCAL LENDERS. AND WE WENT DENTIST THE LINE OF CREDIT PATH AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WAS. THE FACT THAT IT WAS A MULTI YEAR OBLIGATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE VOTES OF THE PEOPLE. THEY STOOD TO TABOR SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT SO IF WE DO GOOD ON THIS PATH THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO THE ACTUAL. SUBSTANCE OF THE PILOT IS EVOLVING AND CONTINUES TO EVOLVE AND EVOLVE SINCE THE MEMO WAS WRITTEN SOON ENOUGH IF COUNCIL MEMBERS GATES ARE WE EVER WANT TO WEIGH IN. ON SOME NEXT STEPS BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE ONE OF THE PROPONENTS SPEAK TO IT

[181:00] SURE DOES FIT IN THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THESE INDUSTRY EXPERTS.I THINK WHAT WE'VE COME TO MERIT AN HONEST TO ALTERNATIVE PATHS AND ONE IS WHERE I WILL GET A LOT OF WEEDS AND CONTRITE A REAL REAL FAST.ONE IS FOR THE CITY WOULD BORROW MONEY IN THE REAL OWN. PEOPLE A SECOND MORTGAGE IN THE SEAT WOULD BE REPAID WHEN THE HOUSE WAS SOLD OR AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME THAT'S ONE MODEL. THINK HE WAS REFERRING TO THE ZIP LINE OF CREDIT MODEL. S WHICH IS ACTUALLY A REAL UNDER. THE SECOND WHICH WOULD NOT INVOLVE BORROWING MONEY WOULD BE THE CITY WOULD SIMPLY GUARANTEE. THAT THE BANK WOULD PROVIDE A SECOND MORTGAGE AND WE GUARANTEE IT SO THAT LATER DEFAULTED WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR IT. THAT WOULD HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF NOT NOT READ THIS YOU GO OUT AND THEN BORROW MONEY AND PAY INTEREST UNTIL COUNTRY PAID THEIRHSE BOTH THOSE THINGS BOTH THOSE MODELS OF COLOR MODEL A AND MODEL B WOULD REQUIRE. YOU TO VOTE FOR A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE I

[182:00] THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME SOME LEGAL PROBLEMS. WITH THE POTENTIALLY PROPOSITION SAY WITH WITH THE MODEL B THAT IS THE STANDBY LETTER OF GUARANTEE. AND SO I THINK WHAT THE QUESTION THAT SAM AND I MAY BE STAFF ARE ASKING OF YOU ALL TONIGHT IS. DO YOU WANT TO DO IT HE BROKE. IN BY THIS WOULD START WITH THE PHRASE WITHOUT RAISING TAXES ON THINGS ABOVE AND TAXES WE TALK ABOUT WHY THAT IS. WITHOUT RAISING TAXES TO YOU WOULD YOU VOTERS AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO DO EITHER OF THESE PROGRAMS SO WE COULD PICK ONE PROGRAM OR THE OTHER. OR BOTH AT SIX AM I RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO IN THE PAST HERO TO BOTH RECOGNIZING THAT THE SECOND ONE THE GUARANTEE ONE MAY HAVE SOME OTHER. LEGAL ISSUES THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO TABOR. LEAST GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY OF ASKING THE VOTERS CAN WE EXCUSE OR A PILOT PROGRAM ALONG THESE LINES. WE CAN THEN DETERMINE WHETHER WE DO IT WITH US ARE REAL AND OR US BEING A GUARANTOR BUT I THINK. WE HAVE TO HERS MASTER THIS STORY AND THAT'S PRESSED INTO MY EYES TOO WANTED TO WANT TO DO THAT UM. YOU EXPLAIN WHY

[183:02] WE WOULD JUST FIGURE OUT THE LEGALITY RATHER THAN GIVING HIM TWO OPTIONS ONE OF WHICH MIGHT BE ILLEGAL. BUT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT I MEAN WE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION ON THIS TO SOMETHING NEW AND TALK ABOUT THAT. UM WE COULD SPEND MORE TIME OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS COULDN'T. DECIDE ON MEASURES TONIGHT WE COULD MAYBE BOTTOM THAT OUT AND WE MAY CONCLUDE THAT IT IS NOT A LEGAL PROBLEM. THAT WE ONLY WANT TO ASK THE VOTERS ONE THING WHICH WAS THE CALL TO REAL ENDING VERSION OR ARE STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY AROUND.I DON'T KNOW THIS MUCH DOWNSIDE S THE VOTERS. BOTH QUESTIONS I THINK COULD BE IN ONE BALLOT MEASURE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW EXTRA WORDS TO LAOS TO DO THIS. OR THIS SO THERE'S SOME COMPLICATION NO DOUBT THE ANSWER MAY BE AN ADVANTAGE BOTTOMING OUT THE LEGAL QUESTION FIRST.BUT WE ASK YOU KNOW ONE LONG COMPO QUESTION IS TWO PARTS WERE ONE QUESTION I GUESS THE QUESTION STILL STANDS YOU ALL WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN TABOR VOTE. FOR THE VOTERS UNDER EITHER MODEL ON THIS YEAR.

[184:01] AND I REGISTERED TO FOLLOW UP TO EMPHASIZE. THAT THE REASON TO PUT THEM BOTH FORWARD. HIS ONE HAS GREAT ADVANTAGE TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD DO FOR A GIVEN AMOUNT OF MONEY SO IF WE ARE DOING IN LOAN LOSS RESERVES ON WHICH HIS BEAK. THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO ROUGHLY TEN TIMES AS MANY HOMES SOMETIMES MADE LOANS WITHOUT US BEING ON THE HOOK FOR.I MEAN WOULD BE TECHNICALLY ON THE HOOK FOR ALL OF THEM BUT NOT ALL GOING TO DEFAULT RATES ONLY A SMALL FRACTION OF THE FALL SO. THE REASON TO HAVE THEM BOTH. AUTHORIZED FOR FOR THE PURPOSES OF TABOR. IS IF WE'RE CONCERNED BUT NOT TERRIFIED ABOUT LEGAL. ISSUES WE COULD RUN THE ONE THAT HAS THE HIGHEST LEVERAGE IF THERE WAS A CHALLENGE AND WE LOST. WHEN WE ARE TO BE AUTHORIZED TO GO BACK TO THE WALL AND IT'S MORE CLEAR. AND SO I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE IF IT PASSES A FUTURE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE RISK REWARD. IN THE POSSIBILITIES AND FIGURE OUT THAT WE FIRST WERE ON A PILOT AND MAYBE A REAL PROGRAM SO THAT'S WHY I

[185:00] THINK THE PASSING OF BOTH WOULD BE USEFUL. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME KIND OF POLLING BUT IT WILL INTERESTING TO KNOW IF THIS PROGRAM. IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S TARGETED TO IS THERE ANY WAY TO GET A SENSE OF IT.THAT'S WHEN THE PILOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK. THE WHOLE YOU WILL BE ABLE I MEAN THAT WOULD BE AWFULLY DIFFICULT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW THE INCOME LEVEL OF THE PERSON AND THEIR JOB SITUATION THAT. A FEW OTHER THINGS TO BE ABLE TO TEASE THAT OUT OF A POLL WOULD MEAN HAMSTER WHICH ARE ASKING WOULD I WOULD PROBABLY DO THE POLLS THROUGH PHP SURVEYING FOLKS OR CORRECT BOB.HE I MEAN FOR MORE INFORMATION WAS HELPFUL BEFORE THE BELL SO GET YOUR POINT OF PULLING THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT SO THE OTHER THINGS TO TALK MY GUESS IS NO TAX INVOLVED HERE.NORMALLY WE LIKE TO PULL ATTACKS BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TAX APPETITE OF THE VOTERS ARE.THIS IS A NO

[186:10] TAX SITUATIONS THIS WOULD YOU GIVE US PERMISSION TO DO THIS PILOT COST YOU ANYTHING. OR GOING TO COST MUCH IN DEBT SERVICE COSTS THEM A CANOE CANOE TAX SO I GUESS I MEANT MORE SO THAT THE BABY IS GOOD ENOUGH AS IS BUT. I THINK WE WANT TO KNOW THIS TOOL THAT PUTTING A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO AND TRYING TO CREATE IS. CRAFTED IN THE WAY THAT IT WOULD BE APPEALING TO THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP. THEM AND MAYBE WE KNOW ENOUGH. THAT WE'VE CLEARED THAT HURDLE BUT I'M JUST IT WAS JUST SOMETHING I WAS TO GET BETTER BEFORE YOU EVEN START TALKING ABOUT POLLING IS. HAVE WE GONE OUT TO SOME SUBSET RELEASED A FOCUS GROUP OF PEOPLE. DO HAVE A PROGRAM WITH THE PROGRAM VERY POPULAR BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS VERY VERY SMALL THAT IS THE AMOUNT OF PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS. FIVE OR THIRTY THOUSAND

[187:00] DOLLARS OR SOME SMALL NUMBER ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMS ARE REAL LIFE HUMAN BEINGS ARE DUE TO THIS. OTHER CITIES HAVE HAD BETTER PROGRAMS IN THE PROGRAM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT THE MORE SUCCESSFUL.WE'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN A LOOK AT ALL THOSE PROGRAM THURSDAYS WE CAN FIND HIM SAT DOWN WITH STAFF.HOW CAN WE IMPROVE ON THOSE TO HAVE GREATER SUCCESS BUT IT IS A PILOT WE DON'T KNOW TO HAVE TEN. THOUSAND PEOPLE SHOW UP TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND THIS IS WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO DO WHILE IT EFFECTIVELY A NO COST PILOT. I'M A TENOR A THOUSAND BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT. A VOTE IN THAT SO WE'RE KIND OF A STAY AT A STANDSTILL RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF REAL LIFE. DISCUSSIONS WITH REAL LIFE LENDERS AND SO WE HAVE A PRETTY IDEA WHAT'S THE ROLE POSSIBLE.THE PROGRAM HAS SHIFTED SIGNIFICANTLY.GREAT ADVICE ABOUT THE POINT OF TIME LIKE. THIS OR NOT AND WE CAN PILOT IT MUST HAVE A PAPER BOAT AND SO THAT'S I GUESS RESCUE ALWAYS DOES DO WANT TO DO THIS. I HAVE NO IDEA HE WOULD PASS IT ON THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW TAX ISSUE THERE.OKAY I WOULD LIKE TO

[188:00] SEE US MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS DEATH.I THINK THE TWO ND OR THE I WOULD SAY IS STILL CONFUSION IS NOT HELPFUL.SO I GUESS JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A GOOD IDEA DOESN'T MEAN THAT VOTERS WILL SAY IT WILL PUT UP WITH A CONFUSING BALLOT MEASURE. TO SAY THAT OUR VETS ARE. THOSE OF US WHO BELIEVE IN IT TO COMMUNICATE. WHAT CARD ON WHY CALM BUT I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO START OFF WITH THAT UNIT WITH NO INCREASE IN TAXES TAX PEOPLE TEND TO VOTE FOR THAT. SOMETIMES THAT JUST WERE TALKING IN VERY RARE HIGH LEVEL OF COMMUTE INTO THE WEEDS BUT WE MIGHT. SEE SEE MY SCHEDULE SOMETIME WE HAVE TIMES OF JULY SIXTEENTH AS I WRITE. SO MAYBE THEN WE CAN KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PROGRAM AND SO YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT YOU WANT TO. TRY TO GET A GENTLE KNOCK DOWN WE CAN BRING FORWARD A MORE ROBUST

[189:00] AND DESCRIPTIVE YET THINK IT'S MORE THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON YOUR DESCRIPTION.DATA AS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WON WITH FORTY ONE TO THE GROUP WAS INJURED IN ATTACKS LIBRARY AND DAVID GERE WILL BE PRESENTING THIS THIS PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION IS OUR LAST NAME.YES GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL DAVID CURATE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PRESENT SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO A PETITION THAT'S BEING. CIRCULATED BY THE BOULDER LIBRARY CHAMPIONS THE BOULDER LIBRARY CHAMPIONS IS A GROUP OF RESIDENTS IN THE BOULDER AREA IS ADVOCATING FOR SUSTAINABLE FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARY.IT'S ALSO ADVOCATING FOR THE CREATION OF A LIBRARY DISTRICT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CITY OF BOULDER.IN ADDITION TO HUNTING AREAS AROUND BOULDER.THE PETITIONS BEING CIRCULATED WITHIN THE PROPOSED DISTRICT BOUNDARIES ONLY ONE HUNDRED SIGNATURES ARE NEEDED TO START THE PROCESS WITH A SLOWER NUMBER OF SIGNATURES.

[190:05] THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO SUBMIT A BOND TO COVER THE COST OF THE ELECTION. FIVE PERCENT OF THE VOTERS THAT CAST PHOTO. BOATS FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE ARE GATHERED IN THE COUNTY HAS TO ASSUME AT LEAST FIFTY PERCENT OF THE COSTS OF THE ELECTION. STAFF ANTICIPATES THAT THE BOULDER LIBRARY CHAMPIONS WILL IN FACT SUBMIT A PETITION WITH SUFFICIENT SIGNATURES TO THE BOULDER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BASED ON THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS IN THE LIBRARY LAW.THE LAST DAY TO SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY IS ON OR ABOUT TWO AND FIFTH. AND THEN THAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEADLINES FOR THE PORTER COUNTY TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN CORD NEEDED ELECTIONS HAS BEEN SOME QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY VOTERS THERE ARE IN THE DISTRICT.THERE'S A HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN VOTER PRECINCTS PRECINCTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES WITH A TOTAL OF JUST UNDER NINETY FOUR THOUSAND VOTERS WITHIN THE CITY OF BOULDER PORTION OF THE DISTRICT. JUST UNDER

[191:00] OR JUST UNDER SIXTY NINE THOUSAND VOTERS.SO I WOULDN'T GO INTO A LITTLE BAD CAUSE ON WHAT YOU WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE BOULDER LIBRARY CHAMPIONS PETITION.THEY SET THE NAME FOR THE DISTRICT IS THE BOULDER LIBRARY DISTRICT REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS WITH THE CONSENT OF THE CITY AND THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE. WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE ARM THAT THE COMMITTEE SUBMIT A BOND TO COVER THE COSTS OF THE ELECTION.IT ALSO REQUESTS THAT THE COUNTY PAY FOR THE COSTS OF THE ELECTION IN THE OFFENSE THAT THE MEASURE SAID FAILS IF IT PASSES IN THE DISTRICT. THE COST WOULD BE REIMBURSED BY THE DISTRICT FROM DISTRICT REVENUES. THE PETITION ALSO REQUESTS THAT THE COUNTY PUT ON A BALLOT MEASURE TO ESTABLISH A LIBRARY DISTRICT AND APPROVE A TAX INCREASE IS REQUIRED BY TAPER. SO THE SLIDE SHOWS A

[192:02] LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE SOME DECISIONS AND FRANKLY THE MIDDLE PART OF IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.SO ONCE THE PETITIONS FILED WITH THE COUNTY THE COUNTY MUST PROVIDE THE CITY WITH A WRITTEN NOTIFICATION OF THE PROPOSED DISTRICT ESTABLISHMENT. AT LEAST NINETY DAYS PRIOR TO THE PORTER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ACTION WHICH IS A RESOLUTION PUTTING THE MATTER ON THE BALLOT. THE LIBRARY LAW ANTICIPATES THAT THERE'S A WINDOW OF TIME WITH THE CITY MAY EITHER OPT IN.ADDITIONALLY OPT IN OR OPT OUT OF THE FORMATION OF THE DISTRICT.IT HAS TO HAPPEN IN THAT MIDDLE TIME FRAME ON THE SLIDE ABOVE. AFTER THE PETITION IS FILED THE CITY COULD ALSO SIMPLY ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT. EITHER ESTABLISH OR MAKE IT CONTINGENT UPON THE PASSAGE OF THE ELECTION OR THE PASSAGE OF A PROPERTY TAX TO SUPPORT THE DISTRICT. NOW

[193:06] MANY GO THROUGH THOSE STEPS WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND IT CAN INTERRUPT HIS PREFERRED AM SORRY. WE COULD ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT BUT IF THE TABOR OR FAILED. AND YOU WOULD AND WOULDN'T HAVE ANY MEANING OR A THAT'S CORRECT AND WERE ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH DISTRICTS OUTSIDE AROUND THE CREASE KNOW. WE WOULD DO IT AND SO IF YOU WERE TO USE THE FORT COLLINS MODEL BASICALLY WHAT THEY DID WAS BOTH. THE CITY AND COUNTY INITIALLY CONSENTED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE DISTRICT BASED ON A POSITIVE VOTE THE ELECTION SO YOU CAN ALSO ADD IN AS ANOTHER VARIABLE. THAT THE TABOR TAX MEASURE HAS PASSED AND I GUESS FROM TALKING TO A SPECIAL DISTRICT COUNCIL. IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR PEOPLE TO SAY YOU'VE GOT THREE ELECTION CYCLES TO GET YOUR TAPE MEASURE PASSED SO THAT THEY WOULD PUT A TIME LIMIT. ON IT'S THAT THEY MAY

[194:09] HAVE MAY WANT TO TRY MORE THAN ONCE FOR THE TAPER LIKE. TO REQUEST THE PERSON EVEN DAVID I JUST DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY CAN BE NAMED AS AN ESTABLISHING INTO TEA IN THE ME WHAT IS THAT.WELL IT'S IT'S IT'S A TERM THAT'S USED IN THE STATUTE.IT'S BASICALLY AN ESTABLISHING ENTITY IS YOU KNOW IF YOU IF YOU'RE A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY ON A LIBRARY.I MEAN THAT'S BASICALLY THE DEAF HIS NECK KIND OF APPROPRIATION KNOW OR OR BALKAN HOW GOLF.I FORGOT ABOUT EXPLAIN ALL THE WOODWORK TO MAKE UP FOR SLIDES BUT I THINK OH I'LL TOUCH ON THE POINTS.GREAT THANK YOU I JUST DON'T QUITE GET IT.OK SO AS I WAS MENTIONING ONCE THE CITY HAS RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE PETITION FROM THE PORTER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE CITY HAS SOME DECISIONS MADE TO MAKE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPOSED DISTRICT.

[195:05] THE FIRST OPTION IS BASICALLY TO YOU KNOW WE CAN JUST ALLOW IT TO GO ON TO THE BALLOT. AND LET IT GO TO THE ELECTION AND ITS COUNCIL CHOOSES TO TAKE THAT ROUTE IT COULD SIMPLY EITHER. SAY NOTHING OR TAKE A POSITION SUPPORTING OR OPPOSING A BALLOT MEASURE IN A MANNER THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS.THERE'S A PROVISION WITHIN THE LIBRARY LAW THAT SAYS I'M. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A GOVERNMENT INDEX EVEN ALREADY OWNS A LIBRARY IS THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WILL PARTICIPATE. IN THE LIBRARY DISTRICT AND THIS IS WHAT MANY CALL THE OPT OUT DECISION IF THE CITY DECIDES TO JOIN THE DISTRICT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. THEY CAN JUST YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISHED

[196:00] A LIBRARY DISTRICT AND IF YOU TAKE THIS ROUTE THAT AVOIDS HAVING TO HAVE. AN ELECTION ON THE ISSUE OF THE DISTRICT FORMATION YOU STILL HAVE YOUR TAPER ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH.I'VE MENTIONED WHAT THE OPT OUT THE CONDITIONAL OPT OUT POSITION ARE PART OF THE PROCESS HE IS IN RESPONSE TO SAM'S QUESTION.SO UPON ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING FORWARD AND HE DID THE CITY HAS ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION.JOINING THE DISTRICT OR THERE'S BEEN A SUCCESSFUL ELECTION ELECTION THAT LIBRARY LAW REQUIRES THAT THE ESTABLISHING IN TO PROVIDE FOR THE DISTRICT'S FINANCIAL SUPPORT BY JANUARY FIRST OF THE YEAR FOLLOWING THE ELECTION. TYPICALLY THE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY THAT OPERATES THE EXISTING LIBRARIES CONTINUE TO DO SO

[197:00] UNTIL THE DISTRICT IS ABLE TO COLLECT TAXES. IF THE CITY CHOOSES THE OPTION TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISTRICT BY ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION. TO END THE CITY WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE DISTRICT AND THE CITY WILL NOT HAVE ANY FURTHER PARTICIPATION IN THE PROCESS INTEREST TO NOTE WHAT I REVIEWED THE MEMO.IT LOOKS LIKE IT SAID THAT WE DID HAVE A ROLE IF WE OPTED OUT OF BED I CHECKED WITH DISTRICT COUNCIL AND THAT'S INCORRECT.WHAT YOU'RE OUT YOU'RE OUT TODAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY SITUATION. IF THE CITY SAID THEY WANTED TO TELL AND ALL OF OUR ASSETS THAN WHAT WOULD THE WHAT WOULD THE DISTRICT BE WELL IF WE OPTED OUT.THE DISTRICT WOULD BE THE END THEY DECIDED TO GO FORWARD. THE DISTRICT WOULD BE THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF SEOUL WOULD BE A DONOR AND WERE THE DOUGHNUT HOLE. THAT THEY WOULDN'T TAKE

[198:00] ANY OF OUR ASSETS IT WOULD TAKE AN UBER SAID THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN ASSETS. FOR A YES OR NO THEY WOULD HAVE A MILL LEVY WOULD THEY WOULD HAVE AFFORDED DIRECTORS AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE HOW THEY WORK AND HOM. PROVIDE LIBRARY SERVICE TO THE BACK TOO SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT WE HAD THREE PASS ONCE THE PETITIONS FILED WITH EITHER. WE CAN EITHER SAY OH OK TO FORM A DISTRICT. WAS SAM'S QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE FORM TO THE SIDE OF OUR POLITICAL BLUNDERS BUT WILL WE CAN REVISIT AS WE EITHER FORMALLY SAY IT WORSE NEW DISTRICT. ELECTION OTHER THAN MAYBE TWO ELECTION ON THE TAX. DISTRICT ELECTION WHICH CREATES DISTRICTS THUS THE AFFIRMATIVE POSITION ON THE OTHER IN THE SPECTRUM. FOR LISA'S QUESTION POPPED OUT SAY YOU GUYS FROM THE DISTRICT GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY AND THAT. AND THE THIRD IS THE KIND OF NEUTRAL MIDDLE OF WHICH IS. WE TAKE NO POSITION IS NO LEGAL POSITION WE MADE IT A POLITICAL POSITION BUT IN A LEGAL POSITION WE DON'T. NEED TO CREATE A DISTRICT OR OPT OUT WE JUST SAY.

[199:01] COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WERE ON THE GO AHEAD AND DO IT AND WILL WILL AGREE TO BE FOUND WHATEVER THE VOTERS SAY IS THAT FOR THREE CHOICES HOUSE. ALL WE SHOULD LET YOU FINISH THE WILL C WOOD US.SO IN TERMS OF THE OPT OUT.THERE'S A THERE IS A VERY SHORT WINDOW TO OPT OUT.I AM GUESSING THAT JUST BASED ON DOING SOME ELECTION MATH THAT THE DEAL PROBABLY FALL SOMETIME AROUND THE HEART. ARGUS FORTH AND THAT DEPENDS ON WHEN WE GET THE PETITION FROM BOTH THE PORTER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SO WILL HAVE A WINDOW BETWEEN WHEN EVER THAT. NOTICE COMES TO US WHICH WILL EITHER BE LATE MAY OR EARLY TWO ND AND EARLY AUGUST IT HAS TO.WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.THIRTY DAYS BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAKE A DECISION MAKE TAKE THE ACTION PUT THE MATTER ON THE PALATE AND THAT'S REALLY YOUR ONLY. THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO OPT OUT.OTHERWISE THERE ARE SOME

[200:09] ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES INTO MY PAROLE OFFICER DIFFICULT ONCE YOU ARE IN A LIBRARY DISTRICT TO GET BACK OUT. SO I AM GUESSING THAT IF THIS ISSUE COMES FORWARD THAT HE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT IN THE MONTH OF JULY.SO WITH THAT SAID I DO HAVE A QUESTION YES WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THE HOME.IT'S THE DAYS WHEN FORWARD. THAT THERE WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT ABOUT HOW THINGS WOULD BE AND WHAT ELSE WE DECIDE TO GO FOR THE LEASE ARE ASSETS FOR ABOUT A YEAR SOMETHING. OR YOU KNOW LIKE THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT WAYS YOU COULD DO IT WHEN DOES THAT AGREEMENT IF WE DECIDED TO PROCEED ON ONE OF THESE AS ONE DOES THAT HAPPEN.WELL THAT WOULD HAPPEN.AS SOON AS THE STATUTE REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE AN HEA.

[201:02] SHORTLY AFTER THE FORMATION OF THE DISTRICTS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AN IGA IN PLACE WITH THE PARTICIPATING ENTITIES WITHIN NINETY DAYS. AND SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE HAS USED THE FORT COLLINS EXAMPLE OF FORT COLLINS BEEF.THEY SAID WILL BE IN YOUR DISTRICT. THEY DID A CONDITIONAL UP TO THE SET WILL BE IN THAT DISTRICT IF THE ELECTION IF THE ELECTION IS SUCCESSFUL IN TERMS OF DISTRICT FORMATION. IT WAS SUCCESSFUL TO GET AN INTERIM IGA WITH THE HEATER WITH THE LIBRARY DISTRICT AFTER THE DISTRICT INFORMED. AND THAT THAT INTERIM IGA IT MORE OR LESS STATED. THE LIBRARIES CAN TAKE YOU KNOW THAT THE FOUR COUNTS LIFE OR IS CERTAIN TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE LIBRARY SERVICES IN THE DISTRICT UNTIL WE HAVE OUR FINAL LIGHTYEAR. AND THEN AFTER DEATH TO NEGOTIATE THE FINAL HEA WHICH INCLUDED ALL OF THE DISPOSITION OF ASSETS FROM TALKING TO YOU GUYS

[202:00] RECALL WHEN CAM CAME SETTER WAS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.BUT WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY HIM IS THAT HIS EXPERIENCE WHEN YOU GET TO THAT POINT THAT FOR THE MOST PART. IN HIS EXPERIENCE THE CITY'S DONATE THEIR LIBRARY ASSETS TO THE DISTRICT AND THE DISTRICT WILL TAKE OVER THE FUNDING OF THOSE ASSETS ONCE THAT HAS OCCURRED DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.THE STATUE CALLED THE STATUTE SAYS IS YOU HAVE TO COME TO AGREEMENT WITH AN ITA ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT REALLY DOESN'T SAY HOW HE HOW TO DO IT. INTERESTING BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THESE DETAILS MIGHT MATTER TO VOTE AND MANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE GO AHEAD AND TELL US.OK SO OF COURSE IF THE ELECTIONS.I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AND I DECIDE I

[203:00] WOULD CUT IT CLOSE WITH A FEW A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCUSSION OF THE OPT OUT PROVISION. RIGHT SO IT SEEMS LIKE HE EITHER GO FORWARD TO THE ELECTION OR TO OPT OUT.I MEAN THOSE ARE YOUR PRACTICAL CHOICES. IF YOU IF YOU WERE TO DECIDE TO OPT OUT OF THE DISTRICT FORMATION AND I THINK IT WOULD HAVE SOME WORK PLAN ISSUES FOR STAFF AND I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE AS YOU KNOW WHAT ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THAT AND TWO IF YOU ARE.WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME ISSUES ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING SUSTAINABLE FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARY AND THE OBVIOUS OPTIONS THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN THE MEMO. WE CAN CONTINUE TO FUND THE LIBRARY AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. WE CAN RE ALLOCATE AND THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE BUDGET BY CUTTING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AND RE ALLOCATING THOSE FUNDS TO THE LIBRARY. OR WE COULD LOOK

[204:12] AT AN ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX FOR THE DEDICATION OF EXISTING REVENUES SUCH AS SALES TAX OR PROPERTY TAXES. OR A COMBINATION EXACTLY THE BASIC OPTIONS AND I GUESS WE ADVICE THAT YOU CAN GIVE TO US AS WE PROCEED TOWARDS THE POST BREAK MONTH OF JULY WOULD BE APPRECIATED.SO IT CAN BUT YOU SKIPPED OVER THAT HALEY COULD SIT ON LEGISLATIVE WAND AND JUST TO TEHRAN THE BALLOT YOU SKIPPED OVER THAT ONE.WHAT WHY THEY JUST CANNOT FIGURE WHY I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WOULD BUT IF WE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT ALL THE ISSUES IN DETAIL BEFOREHAND THAT'S AN OPTION THAT'S AN OPTION.SO WHEN WE GET THE NOTICE FROM THE BOULDER COUNTY THAT THE PETITION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.IT'S AT THAT POINT

[205:04] WHERE YOU CAN ADOPT AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION FORMING THE DISTRICT AND BOULDER COUNTY WOULD DO THE SAME THING.THE TWO JURISDICTIONS WOULD BASICALLY AT THAT POINT. CREATE THE DISTRICT HE WOULD GO STRAIGHT INTO THE HEA DISCUSSIONS PROBABLY YOU COULD DO THAT AND APPOINTMENT OF THE PORT BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND THEN YOU COULD START HAVING THE BOARD AND THE COUNCIL HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT. YOU KNOW ASSETS GOVERNANCE AND FUNDING. AND SOME HAPPY TO KICK OFF THE DISCUSSION. THAT'S HER RIGHT AND JUST VERY BRIEFLY I MEAN WE ALL WILL KNOW THE LIBRARY NEEDS MORE FUNDING I THINK WE'VE NEARLY UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT THAT WE SUPPORT. ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARY. QUESTION IS HOW TO DO THAT WELL IN THE BOULDER LIBRARY CHAMPIONS OF ESSENTIALLY KICK THAT BALL UP AND RUN DOWN THE FIELD WITH IT AND SO. IT SEEMS

[206:03] CLEAR THAT THE HURDLE IS SLOW TO GET THE DISTRICT ON THE BALLOT SO IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT THERE WILL BE. A MEASURE ON THE BALLOT THIS FALL FOR THE FORMATION OF THE DISTRICT SO IT SEEMS LIKE MY OPINION WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE. AT LEAST THIS FALL TO GIVE THE VOTERS THE CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER THEY FEEL LIKE A LIBRARY DISTRICT. IS A GOOD CHOICE AND IF THEY DO AND THAT A MEASURE PASSES THAN. YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARIAN THAT WE HAVE TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS. ON EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK SO I WOULD REALLY URGE US NOT TO TRY TO STEP OUT OF THAT PROCESS WITH THAT OPT OUT. OPTION BUT I'D BE WILLING TO CONSIDER. YOU KNOW IN IN IN JUNE OR JULY. IF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE AMENABLE WE COULD JUST FORM THE DISTRICT WORK THESE THINGS OUT AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THE BALLOT MEASURE ON TABOR. SO THERE'S MORE CERTAINTY FOR THE VOTERS BUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. OR WE COULD JUST LET IT GO TO THE BALLOT. AND IN BOTH

[207:04] THE DISTRICT AND THE TAX MEASURE SO I THINK EITHER ONE OF THOSE BE FINE I JUST WOULD REALLY LIKE TO. ADVOCATE FOR LETTING THIS TO RUN ITS COURSE THROUGH THE VOTERS. FROM DISTRICT UP QUESTION TO ANSWER NO I'M NOT SURE I AGREED WITH ONE THING YOU SAID UM I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO BE. COMING TO RECEIVE A PETITION SIGNED BY ONE HUNDRED OR FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE.UM WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT. THERE'S GOING TO MISS RUBY ELECTION I SUSPECT IF THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO OPT OUT THAT WOULDN'T BE AN ELECTION BECAUSE THEY REALLY WOULDN'T BE. A DISTRICT MEET WITH BP THE DOUGHNUT. HOLE THAT BE THE DONUT AND IT WOULD HAVE NO ASSETS AND HER SMALL TAX BASE AND NO ACCESS TO TAP INTO SO. I'M GUESSING THAT WE SHOULD APT OPT OUT OR WE WILL OPT UP BECAUSE I'M ASKING WHY WOULD YOU TAKE THAT OPTION OFF THE TABLE IN RESPONSE TO THE VOICES OF A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE.WELL I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE VOTERS WEIGH IN ON THE CROSS QUESTION RATHER THAN US FILLING IT UP FRONT WITHOUT. VOTERS HAVING THE CHANCE TO WEIGH IN I.

[208:04] MEAN IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE DISTRICT ADVOCATES COULD DECIDE TO FORM A DOUGH NUT DISTRICT SO THAT THEY CAN GET ADDITIONAL LIBRARY SERVICES TO COMPARE ON MY WALK WITH US IN BALL BUT UM BUT I WOULD I WOULD.IT CERTAINLY IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO SAY NO WE JUST WANT NO PART OF THIS AND IT MIGHT KILL IT ENTIRELY OR IT MIGHT MAKE IT. FOUR FORCED TO TAKE A DIFFERENT SHAPE. I WOULD ADVOCATE FOR LETTING VOTERS LET ME JUST CUZ THEY WANTED WAS WHAT I DO WANT TO MAKE THE POLE BUT LATER ON A BUS WITH THE FACT THAT. THIS WOULD REMIND US OF WHAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS PUT IN THE POOL OR ON THE POLICE COMMITTEE AS WAS DONE EACH YEAR. AND ONLY FORTY FIVE OR SO THE PEOPLE POLLED. IN RESPONSE THE QUESTION WOULD YOU LIKE FROM OTHER DISTRICTS SAID YES ONLY FORTY FIVE OR SO AND THAT'S BEFORE WE HAD EDUCATION EDUCATION CAUSE THE NUMBER GO DOWN OR UP.I SUSPECT DOWN AND SO. OVERWHELMING PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO FORM A HYBRID DISTRICT RIGHT NOW AND SO. HAVE THE DATA POINTS ARE A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE SIGN A

[209:00] PETITION AND IN. THAT FIVE PEOPLE NOT IN FAVOR DISTRICT SO I'M NOT SURE THAT OPT OUT IS AN OPTION WE SHOULD TAKE OFF THE TABLE QUICK THOUGHTS. I DID EVERYTHING WE CAN USE THESE AND NOT MUCH I LIKE THIS BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE OTHER OPTION IS TO LET IT PROCEED AND COUNCIL CAN WEAR WITH THEIR OPINION.COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN RE WRITE THE OPINION TO TOM. I GUESS I WILL LIVE IT WITH AARON WE GO WHETHER I LIKE THE I CERTAINLY DON'T THE SITE LIKE THIS PROCESS BUT SETTING THAT ASIDE BOMB. AT THE IDEA OF VOTERS DECIDING I THINK IT IS GENERALLY THE SAFEST PATH HERE AND WE COULD DECIDE ON A WAY IN OR NOT. IF WE DECIDE TO KNOCK OUT THAT I THINK WE BETTER PUT FUNDING BALLOT MEASURE ON ON BECAUSE I DO

[210:00] THINK THAT WE HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT. WE NEED TO TO PROVIDE A STEADY REFORM FUNDING TO OUR LIBRARY.MOM SAID TO ME I GUESS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT I GUESS I AM I STILL LOVE IT.BOB MELISSA DRESSED GET I THINK TRUSTING OF OTHERS WHICH IS USUALLY THE WAY TO GO HOME JUST OFF OF IT IN VAIL SO IN THE INTERIM.TO SERVE YET THIS PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT WALKING HAIR ARMOR AND THEY WANT SO I GUESS WILL MAKE OUR WAY THROUGH OR. I'M KIND OF TEMPTED TO TRY AND HAVE A HEARING ACTUALLY HANG ON TO TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE. ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLICATED ONE THAT STOPS NOW TEACHER AND I AGREED TO SERVE ANYMORE GETTING. A FEW E MAILS AND CAN COME IN FROM ONE PARTICULAR POINT OF VIEW

[211:00] BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS.I DO HAVE EQUITY CONCERNS IF THERE WAS A DISTRICT AND THAT WE END UP. AT SOME LEVEL TRANSFER ASSETS TO THE DISTRICT FROM THE CITY. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT DONATING OR FOR DOLLAR IS NECESSARILY EQUITABLE TO THE TAXPAYERS WHO SUPPORTED THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE COLLECTION AND SO ON.SO HOW WOULD THAT LOOK WHERE THE DISTRICT ENDS UP PAYING CITY TAXPAYERS BACK IN A WAY SO THAT. IT'S NOT LIKE OK THE CITY PART OF THIS DISTRICT DID ALL OF THE CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE BUILD AND NOW THE ENTIRE. DISTRICT IS GOING TO ENJOY THE FRUITS OF THAT LABOR AND IN THE CITY TAXPAYERS STILL HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PAY. THE TAXES THEY WERE PAYING BEFORE SO I'D LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE EQUITY SHARE LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS SOME TAXPAYERS

[212:00] WITHIN THE CITY WITHOUT. THE FIGURE TO CINDY'S FINGER WHEN I PRAYED AWAY SO I WAS JUST GOING TO STAY AT FOUR MILLS IS A LOT TO ADD TO PROPERTY TAX. AND HOME AGAIN GIVING THE ASSET AWAY SEEING THE TAXES GO UP THAT MUCH FOR THIS. DOUGHNUT SHAPED RING DOES NOT MAKE MUCH SENSE TO ME. IN TERMS OF BEING ELECTED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO OCCASIONALLY SAY THIS JUST MAYBE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF SERVING THE BEST INTERESTS OF THIS COMMUNITY.AM I THINK IT'S VERY ALTRUISTIC TO WANT TO SERVE THAT OUTER DONUT BUT THE EXPENSE COMES IT'S A IT'S A GREAT EXPANSE. WE CALL QUEEN THAT I THOUGHT. ONE OF

[213:02] THE REASONS IS JUST TO MAKE DISTRICT IS A SPREAD THE COSTS OUT IN ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ON THE SURVEY WAS DULY RE ALLOCATE THE MONEY. BEING RIGHT NOW ALREADY PAYING A LIGHTER TO X RAY AND PROPERTY TAX RATE BUT I GUESS IT'S A QUESTION. PROPERTY TAXES BY FORMING A DISTRICT WOULD ALSO INCREASE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AS WELL BUT LESS SO THE QUESTION LESS SO THE DISTRICT. THE INCREASE IS SPREAD OVER MUCH MORE BROADER ELECTORATE VERSUS IF WE DID ALL THE INCREASE WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT.THAT'S AGAINST THEM AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU DO THIS BUT IF I CAN CALL IT CRAZY CINDY. WE'RE SPENDING WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE ASSED TO SPEND MORE WHILE WE GIVE AWAY. THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ASSETS THAT JUST CITY TAXPAYERS HAVE PAID THEM OVER THE YEARS TO GET INTO

[214:00] THIS.OUR SYSTEM OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM SO I DON'T KNOW I FIGURED. IF WE IF WE AGREE THAT WE WANT TO ADD MORE FUNDING THE LIBRARY WHICH I THINK WE HAVE. IF WE DON'T FORM A DISTRICT ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FINANCIAL BURDEN WILL FALL ON THE CITY OF BOULDER TAXPAYERS RATE SO IF WE FORM A DISTRICT THAN. SEVENTY PERCENT OF THE BURDEN OR SOMETHING.WELL FOUR OF THE BURDEN ON SUITABLE OR TAXPAYERS SO. YOU FREE FROM THIS TREE STUMP THAT OUR TAXPAYERS PAY DOUBLE THE PAY LESS ASSUMING WE'RE INCREASING FUNDING BY SOME WARM UP. SUIT JUST ONE WANTED TO PUT INTO IT BUT YOUR POINT ABOUT. FORTY FIVE PERCENT SUPPORT A DISTRICT THAT IS TRUE BUT IN THE POLE THERE WAS TWENTY FOUR PERCENT WHO OPPOSE DISTRICT FORTY FIVE PERCENT WHO SUPPORTED IT AND THIRTY PERCENT UNDECIDED.SO

[215:00] THE INN TO NAPOLI THE POSTER SAID THEY TEND TO FALL OUT IN THE AND IN KIND OF SUMMER WAS TO THE MOST. VIEWERS ARE SURE THAT THAT'S A GOOD OPENING. FOR SOME CONCERNS I THINK SEVERAL OF US WERE VERY CONCERNED TO. EXPRESS HER CONCERNS WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH THE INTERACTING WITH THE POLLSTER FROM VERMONT ON TUESDAY NIGHT IN SPITE OF MYSELF TO. CONFER WITH LOCALS TO A LOT OF PULLING FOR RICHLY EAR AND NOSE BOULDER WELL AND WITHOUT PROMPTING HIM ABOUT ANY CONCERNS THAT WE'D RAISE I JUST SAID HERE'S THE POLE PIERCED INTERPRETATION.WHAT DO YOU THINK AND SAY THAT HE WAS AGHAST WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT WAS VERY VERY SURPRISED AT THE METHODOLOGY AND CONCLUSIONS. VERY LONG LIST OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY DOES TOUCH ON THREE OF THEM.ONE OF THEM AND WE HOPE WE RAISE ALL THREE OF THEM ACTUALLY WITHOUT EVEN BEING PROFESSIONAL POLLSTERS ONE OF THEM WAS THIS POINT YOU RAISED. HE SAID I WANTED AND VERY UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT YOU DO NOT ALLOCATE

[216:00] THE UNSURE AND ON AND THE UNKNOWN OR DON'T KNOW. BETWEEN THE US IS IN THE NOSE INTO EFFECT HE ACTUALLY LAID FORTH. SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF POLLS BUT HE HAD DONE THROUGH THE YEARS WHERE THERE WAS YES NOSE AND UNCERTAINTIES AND ALMOST TO A PERSON THE UNCERTAINTIES VOTE NO. IF YOU HAVE FIFTY FORTY AND TEN. BALLOT MEASURES CAN GET FIFTY NOT AN ALLOCATION OF THAT TOWN AND HE SAID THAT'S JUST JUST JUST PULL IN ONE DAY ONE YOU DON'T COUNT THE INSURERS AND ON NOSE. HAS ALLOCATED TO US AND KNOWS NUMBER TWO HE RAISED THE ANCHOR IN POINT THAT WE RAISED LAST TUESDAY NIGHT AND THAT IS FROM A POLLSTER ASKS RATHER THAN ASKING SOME. RESPONDENTS OR EIGHTY DOLLARS IN TAX FREE FOR ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY HE ASKED IN A DECLINING AMOUNT HE SAYS WHO DO NOT DO THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN GET FOR US. YES IS ON THE LOW AND UNSKILLED BECAUSE. SURE IF YOU SAY NOTED TO BE BUT NINETY SOUNDS A LOT LESS YELLOW CALICO AND NINETY. S

[217:02] THE SEAM GAS NINETY DOLLARS FOR A QUESTION OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO GET MUCH MUCH LOWER SO YOU DON'T. ASK CEREAL DECLINES IN THE AMOUNT TO BREAK UP PEOPLE IN AUDIENCE INTO GROUP TWO THREES ARE FORCED TO ASK EACH OF THEM AT THAT LEVEL. SO THAT WAS A BIG PROBLEM WITH WILL GIVE US A FALSE CONFIDENCE ESPECIALLY THE LOWER AND SKILL AND FINALLY I THINK WE ALL CALL THIS OUT.I THINK WE'VE ALL HEARD. THE YEARS THAT YOU WILL HAVE AT LEAST SIXTY PERCENT. COMP SIXTY PERCENT YES IS SIX PERCENT ALLOCATED JUST BETWEEN US IS TO GO INTO BECAUSE REPORTS SIXTY PERCENT OF YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY TO PASS A TAX IMPACT.WE DECIDED NOT TO GO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX AND THE HEAD PULLING IN THE MID HEIGHT ISN'T EVEN THERE WE DIDN'T FEEL QUITE GOOD ENOUGH SO I THINK WE HAVE. GIVEN FALSE COMFORT THAT THIS IS GOING TO PASS.UM

[218:05] WE DON'T CAN DISAGREE WITH YOUR LOCAL PAPER AND MY GUY BUT I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE GOT GOOD INFORMATION FROM HIM A KNIFE MORE BLIND THAN ALL THIS.SO YOU THE EYE.I REMEMBER GOOD LOOKING AND IT DIDN'T TAKE CANDIDATES ALSO SAY DAVID IF YOU WANT TO BEFORE THIS CONVERSATION FEEL FREE.I THINK SO I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH BOB AND I I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY SQUISHY THE ANSWERS WE GOT ERM.AND THAT HE DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY CONFIDENCE WHATSOEVER. AND THE ONLY THING THAT SEEMED TO PULL OK WAS THE NINETY DOLLARS I MEAN I THINK THE OTHER NUMBERS FOR BAD BUT I THINK IN TERMS THAT THIS TARGETING. THAT GIVES ME SOME CONCERN THAT AND PEOPLE OF THE LIBRARY AND IN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE MAY INDEX IS KIND OF LIKE. I'VE

[219:06] NEVER HEARD OF IT YOU KNOW AND I'M NOT A POLLSTER BUT I JUST IT WAS THE WEIRDEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER. SEEN THE RESULTS BACK IN AND HOW THEY WERE INTERPRETED. I WOULD RIDE FREE WITH SAM THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A HEARING AND ENDED DISCUSSION AND I CERTAINLY. WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO THE BUDGET AND WE WENT THROUGH SOME THINGS IN TERMS OF COULD RETAKE ONE PERCENT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND ALLOCATED TOWARDS. THE LIGHT FOR AND WITH THAT TOO YOU KNOW AND SO THERE MAY NOT BE A NEED FOR TAX BUT A RE ALLOCATION OF SOME GENERAL FUND MONIES. SO I WOULD I WOULD DEFINITELY WANNA HAVE THAT DISCUSSION I THOUGHT.

[220:01] THIS CUSHY DISCUSSION WAS NOT HELPFUL AND IT DID AND I HAD QUESTIONS COMING INTO IT AND I LEFT WITH EVEN. THINKING YOU KNOW EVERYBODY LOVES LIBRARY IS GETTING THE FENCE AND HOW WAS I DON'T THINK IT GIVES A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD PASS.OK SO WE ARE ON TIME EVER YOU GO. AND NOT FOR THIS I'M JUST CLARIFYING YOU WERE SAYING DAVID THAT. IF WE JOINED THE DISTRICT COULD LEASE OUR ASSETS ARE ASSETS FOR E FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR ARE THERE CASES WHERE WE COULD. UP THAT TO SOMETHING THAT'S A MUCH HIGHER MONETARY AMOUNT OR KIND TO GIVE BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS THAT HAVE ALREADY PUT IN ON THE CAPITAL FOR THE SORES THAT NOT HEARD. WELL I THINK THAT FROM THE WAY THE STATUTE IS DRAFTED THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. BECAUSE IT

[221:03] JUST SAYS YOU AGREE ON FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES IN TERMS AND CONDITIONS WITH VERY GENERAL JUST YOU GUYS WILL WORK ABOUT NEGOTIATION. WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM HIM SADDER IS THAT THE TYPICAL APPROACH WHEN LIBRARY DISTRICTS ARE FORMED IN COLORADO IS THAT THE LIBRARIES OF MUNICIPALITIES DONATE WHAT'S THERE AND MORE. YOU KNOW WITH CONDITIONS BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH DONATE THEIR ASSETS TO THE DISTRICT.I THINK I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE DISTRICT WE COULD. HAVE A LOT OF INFLUENCE OVER YA. THE OUT USING THIS STATUTE LAYS OUT HOW YOU DO THE FIRST BOARD. AND BASICALLY WHAT IT REQUIRES IS ON THE COUNCIL WILL APPOINT TWO PEOPLE THAT WILL BE ON A SELECTION COMMITTEE. TO COUNCIL MEMBERS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL DO THE SAME WITH TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND TOGETHER THEY WILL APPOINT THE FIRST FOUR. AND THEN MAKE IT RATIFIED BY BOTH THE CITY

[222:00] COUNCIL AND BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.OK SO THE STATE GOVERNED BY THE IGA PERCENT.WELL NO THAT'S THE FIRST FORD TOLD TO HELP WITH THE EYE AND THROUGH THE HEA FOR SUBSEQUENT GOVERNANCE HOW THE BOARD SELECTED AS ONE OF THE ITEMS LISTED IN THE STATUTE.SO YOU CANI THINK YOU CAN MODIFY THAT.OKAY ERM SO WITHIN A ONE TO RESPOND ANY OF THIS OR YOU DO OR IF YOU'D LIKE ME.UM I THINK THE HOLSTER PALM CENTER FOR RESEARCH AND POLICY DEGREE THAT YOU ARE ALL ENTITLED TO INTERPRET THE POLL OUR PEACE EFFECT AS ARE MEMBERS OF THE .MOM I WENT TO REVIEW FOR SELECTION.IT WAS A UNANIMOUS

[223:02] DECISION AMONG THE COMMITTEE TO SELECT THAT FIRM THEIR CLIENTS HAVE BEEN. COCA COLA COMCAST THE FORD MOTOR COMPANY THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL THE NATURE CONSERVANCY HOW MUNICIPAL AND STATE AGENCIES IN FIFTY STATES OH I I'D I DON'T KNOW I MEAN THAT THEY ARE.I DON'T KNOW THAT THEIR CREDIBILITY IS QUESTIONED DIFFERING INTERPRETATIONS.I THINK YOU TOTALLY AGREE THAT THAT'S PERFECTLY UP TO YOU. GUESSED IT IF WE DECIDED TO BASICALLY SAY WE NEED TO HAVE A HEARING ON THIS LEVEL BE A SPECIAL MEETING. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE WE WANT TO. BASICALLY GET FEEDBACK ON APPROACHES AND ONE WOULD BE THIS APPROACH AND IF SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS LIKE. GET THE ASSETS OR SOME OTHER COMPANY CHEATED ANY OF THAT TO UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE THING THAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT. MOM WEEK IT

[224:06] ALSO WANTS FEEDBACK ON THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RACE AND THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT WHICH IS RELATED THE SEVERED ARM. SO THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST ALL OVER THE MAP BECAUSE WE WANT TO COME AWAY WITH A FEEL OF THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS DISTRICT IDEA HOW YOU YOU KNOW MOM I GUESS THAT SEEMS TO ME WOULD BE MORE USEFUL THAN JUST JUST DOING THE DISTRICT.WELL BECAUSE IF WE SAY NO TO THAT WOULD BE SAYING YES TO SOMETHING ELSE FOR GENERAL FUND DECREASING SOMETHING ELSE IN THE GENERAL FUND. THAT SEEM RIGHT THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING LETTING US MAKE A SUGGESTION OF REPUBLICANS NINETY ALTHOUGH I WOULD SUSPECT THERE'S GOING TO PROBABLY MORE. ADVOCATES OF THIS THEY COME OUT AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY WANT TO PAY TAXES PEOPLE PAY TAXES DON'T COME OUT THEY JUST VOTE AGAINST.I

[225:04] WOULDN'T TYPICALLY SCIENTIFIC BUT IT'S PROBABLY WAS HOPEFUL TO HEAR OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS. FOR ME TO DO A WHOLE THESE OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO DO A WHOLE DIFFERENT POST OR ON THESE ON THESE TAX LEVELS AGAIN. COS INCREMENTALLY MORE MONEY INTO FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS LIKE A DIFFERENT POLLSTER TESSA SINCE IT'S A NUMBER THAT IS IN NUMBERS AND THAT'S FINE. BUT WE DIFFER NUMBER TO BE GOOD TO KNOW I AGREE WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER YEARS AND IF WE OPT OUT. THE DOOR BUT BETTER FOR THE MECHANISM AND I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE WHICH IS. YOU WANT TO FORM A DISTRICT CAN PAY EXTRA TAXES OR YOU WANT US TO KEEP TO OPT OUT. BUT KY TAXES NERDS ACTUALLY RIGHT OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAVE FEWER TAXPAYERS THE AMOUNT ACTUALLY GO OF ALL THE OTHERS WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT FUN WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT'S. PRECISE FALSE PRECISION HERE YOU KNOW I KNOW THE LABOR COMMISSION STRUCK THREE MILLION YEARS OF LIFE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT WITH US THE RIGHT NUMBER IS LISA SAID. IT COULD BE A HYBRID OF THREE ALLOCATION MORE TAXES BUT I THINK WHEN THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE FOR THE IS. WOULD YOU LIKE US

[226:02] TO OPT OUT OF THE DISTRICT WOULD GET OUR ATTENTION WAKE UP CALL.NOW LET'S PUT SOMETHING ON ON THE BALLOT WHAT WOULD YOU WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PAY IF WE KEPT OUR ASSETS.WHAT WOULD YOU WHEN YOU BEGIN TO PAY TWO FROM THE LIBRARY HERE. ON PEI MILLION DOLLARS YEAR TO APPEAL TO MINORITY OR TWO OF THREE MINORITY OR CHOKE AND QUICKLY WHAT THAT MEANS AND CAN PRICES. FOR MILLS IS ABOUT TWO AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS ON EIGHT OF FIFTY DOLLARS AND CAUSE OUR HOUSE OR A ZIP CODE. WITH THE NEW SEVEN POINT TWO FOUR POINT FIVE MILLS IS TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY AND AN EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND WAS GOOD. SO OKAY UM THE ONE THING THAT I JUST WONDER WHY NOT AND I TOTALLY GET THAT THERE'S A LOT OF UNEASE AND WE'VE BEEN CLEAR I THINK ABOUT THE UNEASE. THAT A LOT OF

[227:05] LABOR EXPERTS THING DISTRICTS ARE VERY GOOD APPROACH AND SO I GET THAT WE DON'T BUT I DO THINK. IN TERMS OF DUE DILIGENCE WE NEED TO LOOK LONG AND HARD. AND I THINK IT KIND OF STEMS FROM IDEA OF GIVING AWAY THE ASSETS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE KIND OF GIVING THEM AWAY TO OURSELVES. BUT I JUST WANT TO RULE THAT OUT THERE IS VIBRANT OPPONENTS ARE MOVING FORWARD IS THEY'VE LOOKED AT THIS LONG AND THEY THEY THINK IT'S A GOOD APPROACH.WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM BUT WE SHOULD STUDY THIS TOLL ON HIM.OK SO BASICALLY WE'RE SIGNING UP FOR A SPECIAL MEETING TO HAVE A HEARING ON THIS COURT UNLESS WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE. FOR A PEOPLE IN A COMMON IT WILL BE SHORT.WELL I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE STRUCTURED MORE ALONG THE LINES THAT DESCRIBE RATHER THAN YEST I WENT TO ST.NO I DON'T INDUSTRY I

[228:02] WOULD LIKE MORE GREATLY IN AWE OF FUNDING ISSUES AND DISCUSSION AND LOOKING AT THE OFFENDING ISSUES WITH THE OTHER THING IS THAT GIVEN THESE NEW ASSESSMENTS.YOU KNOW AN EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE. IS GETTING RARER AND RARER IN THIS COMMUNITY SHOW THIS TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DOLLAR TAX IS KIND OF UNREALISTIC AS THE STARTING PLACE JUST TO PUT OUT THERE. SOME SHOW I THINK ALL OF THE MONETARY INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PUT OUT NEEDS TO BE DONE AS HAS BEEN SENT HOME BEFORE HAVING ANY KIND OF HEARING. THE GIFT AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS. WHEN I WAS GOING EARLIER WITH OPEN SPACE TAX IS FOR GOING TO DO POLL WE HAVE TO REALLY SET THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPERTY ASSESSMENTS THAT JUST HAPPENED.WE'VE GOT THE LIBRARY SOME FUNDING SHORTAGES AND HOW ARE WE IN

[229:00] TO DO THAT WE'VE GOT THE OPEN SPACE TAX WHICH GOT CALENDARS WITH TRANSPORTATION.WE'VE GOT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX.I MEAN THAT'S THE CONTEXT AND SOUL.MY GUT SAYS THAT THERE'S LIKELY NO APPETITE FOR TAXES BUT GIVEN THE ASSESSMENTS.I MEAN WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT SAY MY PROPERTY TAXES JUST WENT UP BY MY OR MY PROPERTY VALUE JUST WENT UP BY. TWENTY PERCENT THIRTY PERCENT AND IT REALLY IS KILLING PEOPLE ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT ARE ON FIXED INCOMES I MEAN. IT'S JUST IT'S GETTING HARDER AND HARDER AND HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO STAY HERE AND WITH INCREASING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHALLENGES SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SAMPLING.

[230:12] I THINK WE HAVE TO SET THE FULL CONTEXT. OF THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE WITH ALL OF THESE FUNDING CHALLENGES ON EVERYTHING IT'S NOT JUST THE LIBRARY IT'S NOT JUST OPEN SPACE SET FOR THE POLLING. ADVANTAGE INTERESTING DATA FROM MULTIPLE LEVELS ON THE POLE BUT I THINK WE ALSO LEARNED A LOT FOR JUST NINETY DOLLARS ONE. FOR TRYING TO KEEP IT SHORT ENOUGH THAT PEOPLE ANSWER. BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST LIKELY ONE ANYWAY BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PASS.SO ANYWAY THERE WAS JUST A RESPONSE TO AND WE COULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE ONTO THE NINETY DOLLAR AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK IT WOULD SHOW BACK TO WHAT IS NINETY DOLLARS KS.IT WAS JUST WITHIN THE CITY ONE POINT FOUR MILLS.THAT'S UNIQUE TO MY ONE

[231:08] POINT FOUR MILLS SO LOVING CITY WHAT IF EVERYONE'S TAXES WENT UP BY. TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY DOLLARS IDEA WHAT CAN I MEAN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO HER HORSES AT GENERATE EXTRA EAR MOM. OF THREE POINT SIX TIMES ONE POINT FOUR IT'S REALLY LATE FOR ME SOME FIVE. MILLION PLUS SIDE WELLS PLUS THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY RATE SO THEY MET ANOTHER TWENTY PERCENT SOAP SIX MORE IN. ONE OPTION MIGHT BE TO. TO OPT OUT OF THE DISTRICT BUT HAVE A DEDICATED TAX FOR THE LABOR IN OTHER WORDS UPTO THE TAX PROVIDING GUARANTEED INCOME SHRINKS I THINK THAT'S. WHAT HER PURPOSE IS SAYING DOES NOT MAKE MY WHITE PEERS FOR SHERIFF HERE SAYING IS MAKE SURE THE LATTER HAS ADEQUATE FUNDING. FOR A FUN WAY TO DO IS TO HAVE CAKE AND I THINK THE COMMUNITIES OF SECONDARY CONCERN TO THE PRIMARY CONCERNS ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARY I WOULD I WOULD. POST MY

[232:02] QUESTION WAS NINETY DOLLARS FOR BOULDER RESIDENTS NINETY DOLLARS FOR THE PRICE WE OPTED OUT AND SAID WAKE UP CALL GOT IT.WE'RE LED TO THIS DISTRICT THINK A LOT REASONS BUT HAPPY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU COMMUNITY ABOUT A CONTEST FOR THE LIBRARY SO. I JUST THINK IF YOU COMMENT SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A PROPERTY TAX WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT ONE MIL. LEEWAY TO DO IT INSTEAD OF ONE POINT FOUR. NM AND ONE MIL I THINK CHERYL SAID EARLIER WITH THE INCREASE IN VALUES WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR MILLION DOLLARS WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE AMOUNT THAT. WERE SAYING WE'RE SHORT ON THE MIDDLE PLAN FOR THE LIBRARY SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND BUT GETTING BACK TO THE HEARING IN THE POLL ON. I JUST AM TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ABOUT THE ONE INTO A POLE AND D WANTED TO A HEARING AND DOES THE ORDER MATTER. SO IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE POLL.FIRST AND THE

[233:05] HEARING IN JULY BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GET THE POLL DONE IN TIME SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT WE'VE GOT SOME TIMING CHALLENGES.ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE POLL I WOULD. RECOMMEND THEM BOB AND LISA WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THIS THE KIND OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO THINK ABOUT THE QUESTIONS SO THE SUN WAS JUST A JOB WELL I WOULD.I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB ACTUALLY. BUT THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT PULLING FOR THE OPEN SPACE AND PERHAPS AARON AND MARY WHO I THINK ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES TO THE OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. COULD HELP US WITH THAT SO THAT WE COULD GET THE QUESTIONS DONE PRETTY QUICKLY.SO JUST SOME IDEAS TO THROW OUT THERE AND HOPING FOR DIRECTION FROM YOU ON TIMING. THE BOOK A SHOW IF THE PETITION IS FILED WE HAVE A WINDOW IN WHICH TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT POPPED OUT. SURELY THAT'S A HEARING.SO

[234:09] MAYBE THAT'S WHEN A HEARING GOES AND MAYBE RETREATED TO THE POLLING WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME AND IT WAS AN EARLY AUGUST THAT OPT OUT DECISION HAVE TO BE MADE.YES THAT'S CORRECT BUT IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHEN THE COMMISSIONERS SCHEDULED A HEARING TO ACT ON A ROUGH WEEK BUT THEY DON'T DECIDE TO AUGUST USUALLY RIGHT.RIGHT SO WE HAVE TO ADD. WE TAKE THE STATUE CREATES THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO GET ONLY THE CITY HAS TO GET AT LEAST NINETY DAYS' NOTICE. AND IT'S FROM THE DATE OF OUR NOTICE TO WHEN THE COMMISSIONERS ACT ON THE MEASURE PUTTING THE DISTRICT ON THE BALLOT RIGHT SO THAT CREATES A NICE KID AND AT LEAST NINETY DAY WINDOW.SO ONCE THAT DATE GETS SET.WE HAVE TO BE DONE. WITH

[235:02] OUR DECISION TO OPT IN OR OUT THIRTY DAYS AT LEAST THIRTY DAYS BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD TAKE ACCESS OUR TAKE ACTION ON THE BALLOT ON PUTTING THE MEASURE ON THE BALLOT.SO A LOT DEPENDS ON. YOU KNOW WHEN WHEN THE PETITIONERS GET THE PETITION AND AND WHEN THAT. WHEN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ACTUALLY SCHEDULE FOR THE SAFETY WHICH IF WE DECIDE WITHIN SIXTY DAYS OF THE COUNTY RECEIVING A PETITION FOR A GOOD PRICE.I GUESS YESTERDAYYEAH AND OF COURSE THAT ASSUMES THAT THEY GET THE REMOTE THEY NOTICED US THE SAME DAY IN SIXTY DAYS AFTER WE GET THE STATS THE OTHERS FOR. ITS CEO KAREN JUST AS OURS WHO JUST CAN AGREE WITH YOU. ANYWHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO JOIN THE DISTRICT ASSUMING THEY GET THE THINGS WHICH THEY WILL. SO IT DOES MAKE SENSE AT THIS HEARING HER TALKING TO BE THE PLACE WHERE WE MAKE THAT DECISION RIGHT.THE HEARING ON THAT YET THOUGH.

[236:00] AND THEN IF IT'S MAYBE IT'S ME MAYBE IT'S LATE JULY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. GET US TIME TO DO POLE MAYBE THEN. WE CAN ASK SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH BEFORE I MEAN. WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S ADEQUATE TIME AROUND WILL GET ON THAT THIS WEEK. SO YOU DO SO I UNDERSTAND IT DO THE POLL BEFORE THE IDEALLY WE WOULD KNOW THE POLL RESULTS AHEAD OF THE HEARING DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY.OK YOU HAVE A SUMMIT AND NO IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ME I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION. WILL COME WITH C ADVANTAGE OF DOING BOTH A POLE AND A ONE IS STATISTICALLY. WELL GOING TO DO A POLL SOUND LIKE ON A BUNCH OF THINGS SO WE CAN CHECK THE NINETY DOLLAR FIGURE.IT SEEMS TO ME WE DID NOT EVERYBODY CAN COME TO A HEARING AS IS NOTED IT'S A GREAT MOM.SO WE WERE DOING BOTH.I THINKSO WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE TO DOING SO ARE THERE IN HOPE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE CREATIVE IDEAS FOR APPS AND OPINIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD OPT OUT.I

[237:11] WILL BE VERY SURPRISED IF VIRGINIA POLL RESULTS BEFORE THE END OF JULY WHERE. SHOULD YOU POINTED OUT ALL THIS CONTEXTUAL INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE PUT AND IT CAN INVOLVE OPEN SPACE LIBRARY. MAY BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO SO I THINK THE POINT OF A HEARING IS TO GIVE PEOPLE THE CHANCE TO SAY WHAT THEY THINK AND WHAT. THEY THINK WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS TO LOOK AT HERE. AND ONE OF THEM MAY COME BEFORE WE HAVE POLL RESULTS FROM A HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT THAT'S TRUE. PARTICULARLY IF IT'S GOING TO BECOME PRINCIPAL ON ORGAN AND TWO DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEES REVIEW QUESTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO. I GET SOME THOUGHTS ON A GOOD POPULATION THE HEARING WOULD HAVE A HEARING WAS A HEARING ABOUT MEASURES ANYWAY.CHRIST IS CAESAR'S BUT WAS JUST THIS IS JUST OUR BECAUSE WHEN TRIED ON THE OPEN SPACE RITE WE APPOINT. A HEARING ON THAT

[238:04] WE HAVE MISSED THE ONE ABOUT ME SO THIS IS JUST THE SISTER BELLA MEASURE HEARING AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR LATE JULY OR LATE JULY.SOMETIMES EARLY AUGUST WE ADMIT WE MIGHT ACCELERATE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE AUGUST FOUR DEADLINE WOULD FACE NOT TOPPED UP AND WE NORMALLY HAVE A HEARING IN JULY OR AUGUST MEASURES ANYWAY.OKAY I THINK THIS IS DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE OPT OUT TOTALLY CHANGES WILL BE ON THE BALLOT IN A WAY THAT MOM. PUTS ON ABOUT THE VOTERS TO GET TO VOTE ON THIS KIND OF TURNS A DISTRICT INTO A DONUT WHICH. CHANGES IN HOW IT'S ON TO SAY THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED A HEARING ON THE TOP TELL QUESTION REGARDLESS THAT TO US WE SANG I GUESS I THINK POLLS COST MONEY.WE'RE NOT GONNA DO.I ASSUME ARE NOT GOING TO A TWENTY QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO DO PRETTY SPECIFIC I DON'T THINK THIS IS ROCKET SCIENCE AND I THINK. THE CONTEXT WILL BE A LITTLE TRICKY BUT DO YOU SUPPORT.I MEAN THE QUESTIONS DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COPE WITH.

[239:02] DO I WORK ON THE QUESTIONS AND GET TO A POLLSTER IN A FEW WEEKS.OKAY I GUESS I THINK THAT'S RIGHT BUT HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THE COP FIREMAN POLE. I DIDN'T AGREE AND RESULTS IN SIX WEEKS.I KNOW THAT WAS SO MUCH MORE COMPLICATED MAIL HOLD THOUGH I THINK THAT I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN GET IT DONE BY CHOICE.LIKE IF YOU HAD A TELEPHONE POLE WITH TEN QUESTIONS IT'S EASIER THAT FOR SURE.WELL I'M I LIKE BOB'S IDEA QUITE A BIT OF ADDING THAT THE SEPARATE ITEM. SEPARATE HEARING ITEM ON THE LIBRARY BUT DOING IT THE SAME NIGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BALLOT ITEMS BECAUSE THIS HAS A BIG IMPACT ON. WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE BALLOT FOR A MINUTE WHAT WE WOULD SAY AND WHAT THE WOULD SAY AROUND THAT.SO IF WE COULD DO IT AT NIGHT AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING AND IT WOULD BE IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT COULD BE ON THE BALLOT. SO

[240:03] THAT WHICH ARE THINKING WELL. MAYBE WE CAN ASK THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OFTEN ARE HEARING SO WE'RE NOT JAMMED IN LATE JULY IF THEY. DO US A FAVOR AND SAY WILL YOU PROMISE NOT EVERY HEARING UNTIL LATER IN AUGUST TO ASSUME THE PRIZES LITTLE BIT OF TIME IS RIGHT. AND THAT THE LATEST EIGHT I BELIEVE THIS YEAR'S SEPTEMBER FIFTH OR SIXTH GRADE SO THEY CAN THEY CAN HELP US OUT WITH THE SCHEDULING.I ALSO WANT TO LOSE MARY'S POINT EARLIER THAT A POLL ON OPEN SPACE IN MY BRAIN I LIKE TO PULL ON FOR THE LEAKS I THINK. ALLOWS THE RESPONDENTS HAVE OF THE UNDERSTANDS THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH WITCHES PRESERVATION WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THESE THINGS WE CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING. AND LIBRARY AND OPEN SPACE PLUS WE REALLY REALLY TAX THE HECK OUT OF PEOPLE IN THE QUEBEC CITY'S POINT ABOUT WHAT'S THAT.THE TAX CAPACITY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION RESCUE OUR COMMUNITIES HELP US WITH WITH WITH WHAT WAS YOUR TAX CAPACITY. AND ASSUMING THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND HERE'S THREE THINGS I AGREE BUT YOU CAN ASK SOMEBODY HOW MUCH CONCRETE ACTION.I GET THAT A PULSE

[241:08] THE POLLSTERS ASK THE QUESTION THE RIGHT WAY BUT THAT'S MY MY LAYMAN'S INTERPRETATION OF WHAT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO. SEEK OUT HERE WHICH IS WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES COMMUNITY BY LOOKING AT ME YOU HAVE SOME OF THE SAME ARTIFACTS THAT YOU'RE COMPLAINING OF A SERVICE LIKE WILL WHICH TWENTY S ABOUT FIRST.OH YEAH THAT'S A SPORT I COULD BEAT HIM BY THE TIME WE GET THE THIRD OR FOURTH ONE TO BLAKE NOW HAS TO MAKE TEXAS SAY WELL THAT'S WHY THEY WROTE TO HIM.FOR EXAMPLE AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT COULDN'T COPE.SOO I'M NOT SURE A GOOD CLEAR DIRECTION FOR US SHE WANTS TO DRAFT A CITY BALLOT MEASURE TO INCREASE OF SORRY WITH COLD. THE PROPERTY TAX BY ONE MILL TO SUPPORT THE LIBRARY AND HAVE THAT IN THE POCKET IN CASE YOU WANT TO. JUST TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC IS IF YOU DECIDE TO GO THAT WAY WE CAN JUST INSTANTLY CREATE A BALLOT MEASURE IN AUGUST.I JUST WOULD NOT I I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE MILL LEVIES USED.I THINK THAT WE HAD

[242:08] OTHER OPTIONS LISA TALKED ABOUT RE ALLOCATION. TAKING IT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND OR ELSE HAVING IT FOR GOING TO DO SOMETHING AT SOME KIND OF SMALLER DEDICATED TAX BUT NOT PROPERTY. OR SECOND AT THE MATTRESS WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR SALES TAX FOR IS SOME BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE. THE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND IS COMING FROM MOSTLY EXCEPT FOR THE SMALL BIT FROM PROPERTY TAXES AND I THINK. FOR WHATEVER REASON THE REACTION OF PROPERTY TAXES MORE NEGATIVE VISCERAL. ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR ASSESSMENTS AND I THINK ABOUT IT AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND BUT JUST BECAUSE THEIR ASSESSMENT WENT UP TWENTY PERCENT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE PROPERTY TAXES WILL GO UP TWENTY PERCENT SO YOU KNOW.ANYWAY WE RECEIVED EITHER STICKER SHOCK IN IT FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT HIM EVEN AS A FUNDING MEASURE TOM I WOULD SUGGEST A TO B SALES TAX IN THE PROP. IS IT

[243:05] ISN'T A DEDICATED IS NOT AT THIS TABLE IS WE KNOW WHICH IS ONE OF THE ISSUES SO I WOULD THROW THAT ON THE POLE RIGHT. HE MIGHT AS WELL FIND OUT WHAT PEOPLE THINK. IT IS NOT WHAT WE THINK IT'S WITH. SCRIPTURE AND TRUTH BUT ALSO POINT OUT THE SALES TAX IS MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE IN PROPERTY TAXES RATES I UNDERSTAND THE RESISTANCE PROPERTY TAXES BUT SALES TAXES HIT LOWER INCOME PEOPLE MUCH HARDER THAN TEXAS.I KNOW SOME PEOPLE REALLY STRUGGLE THEIR PROJECTS AND NOT FINISHING THEM BUT SAME TIME PART PART OF OUR PART OF OUR CITY TAXES NOW OR DO. WE HAVE THIS INORDINATE VISITOR BASE ATE THAT DAY COMES WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT RE ALLOCATING AS WE DID LAST YEAR FROM OTHER FUNDS AND SETTING UP. BUT THAT THESE ARE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS BUT. SETTING UP YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH AND THEN GOING FORWARD FROM THERE DIGGING UP SOME OF THIS. EXCESS VISITOR FUNDING IS COMING IN AND PUTTING IT IN THE PLACES WHERE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE NOT IN MORE ADVERTISING FOR MORE JUST OR VISITORS.IT IS GETTING

[244:00] LEADERS IN IT.OK SO IT MAY BE THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS. TO TAX OURSELVES TO CREATED DISTRICT. AND I GUESS TO REALITY IT'S REALLY HARD ASKING THAT ACCURATE PRE ALLOCATION QUESTION BUT WE COULD. TRY TO DO THAT IT'S HOOK IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO YOU SAY YOU TAKEN FROM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO THERE BUT UM. I CHECK ABOUT THE POLL BUT INSTEAD IS HEARING SOME TIME IN YOU LIE. CAC WILL LOOK AT IT.HMM WHAT ELSE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I THINK WE WERE OPTIONS BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CONSENSUS ON WHICH ONE WHICH WILL DRAFT OPTIONS OUT THE DOOR POCKET.I JUST GET STARTED ON SOMETHING.AND SO THAT'S DIRECTION.I THINK THAT

[245:02] WE'RE NOT GIVING THE CLEAREST DIRECTION BECAUSE THERE ARE THIS IS A TOUGH ONE AND I THINK LIVES CAN DEPEND ON WHAT THE ONCE THEY MILES FROM US ANYTHING.HAVE A QUESTION HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE POLL SAID THAT THEY WERE REALLY UNHAPPY WITH THE LIBRARY AND LIBRARY SERVICES FIXED. YET SO I HAVE BEEN ANECDOTALLY JUST ASKING AROUND THE COMMUNITY DUE TO THE LIBRARY HOW OFTEN YOU GO. HOWARD HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT YOU KNOW AND JUST EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.SO THEY'RE ALWAYS VISIONARY THINGS ONE WANTS TO DO. OR MORE BUT THERE'S ALSO JUST KIND OF KEEPING EVERYBODY HAPPY IF WE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS I MIGHT FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THAT BUT. I THINK IT DOES THE NORTH BOULDER OPERATING ISN'T IN. YET WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT FOR EXAMPLE. AN ENTICING WELL I THINK NUMBER OF FOLKS WHEN THEY COME TO THE MAIN LIBRARY LOVE IT BUT WOULD ALSO VERY MUCH LOVE TO HAVE SERVICES IN GREAT. NEIGHBORHOODS AND OF COURSE THE NORTH BOULDER LIBRARIES GOING TO TAKE MORE PERSONNEL THAN IT WOULD HAVE HAD IT NOT

[246:00] GROWN SO EXPONENTIALLY.IT'D BEEN MORE LIKE THE GEORGE REYNOLDS BRANCH OR THE MEADOWS BRANCH FOR EXAMPLE GUESS ST.JUST IMAGINE LISA SPEECH THAT SHE WOULD HAVE THE MONITOR SIZE WILL WE PRETEND.OKAY I'M NOT SURE WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE CLEAREST DIRECTION ON THIS BUT WE HAVE SOME WORK AHEAD OF US.ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS IN THE STADIUM.I HAVE A QUESTION UM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE GATHERING SIGNATURES ARE GETTING MORE THEN THE MINISCULE AMOUNT THAT IS REQUIRED SO WOULD. I MEAN IF THEY SHOWED UP WITH TEN THOUSAND SIGNATURES THAT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT MOM SHOULD A DIFFERENT LIGHT ON YOU KNOW FOR ME ANYWAY.IF IT

[247:03] WERE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES VAT WOULD TO ME. POINT ME IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AS TO WHERE TO GO SO. TO SAY BUT MARY AGAIN MY QUESTION THERE WOULD BE JUST AS A FOLLOW UP HOW MUCH INFORMATION IS IN THE PETITION IN TERMS OF COSTS. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WILL SIGN PETITIONS JUST SO THEY CAN BE PUT TO THE BUT IF THE COSTS ARE KNOWN.IT MAY NOT BE AS WILLING TO PUT THE DON'T I DON'T KNOW I HAVEN'T SEEN A PETITION CRYPT A CHRISTIAN THIS IS FURTHER TAKING IT TONIGHT.ERMTHANK YOU STAFF.