September 20, 2018 — City Council Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[2:32] KAY HERE IN CARLISLE HERE ON OUT HERE. JONES MARCEL NAGEL WEAVER YATES HERE YOUNG MARE WE HAVE A SCARF. EXCELLENT ON JUST ONE ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE JUMP RIGHT INTO OPEN COMMENT AND THAT IS THAT OUR INFORMATION PACKET THIS WEEK

[3:00] CONTAINS TWENTY EIGHTEEN. NINETEEN ADULT HOMELESSNESS WINTER SHELTERING UP DE SOTO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT IT'S ON THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE. WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO DIVE RIGHT INTO OPEN COMMENT. ON YOUR FREE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR THAT MATTER FOR WHICH READING A AIRING TONIGHT AND THAT IS THE AGREEMENTS WITH EXCEL ENERGY. WITH SOMETHING PULLED OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA TO YOU OR HEAR OF THIS CENTURY SAID IF YOU DRESSED UP TO DO IT. SURE OKAY WELL WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS SOME LITTLE PROCESSOR ON THAT THAT ABOUT WHETHER WE WAN DAT. ACTUALLY HAVE A HEARING ON ITS LEADER RESCHEDULE IT OR TALK ABOUT

[4:00] IT AT TEN THIRTY NINE GREAT CONDEMNING OK. WE MADE FOR THE WILDEST DISCUSS THAT I'M OKAY WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN AND THE LISTS FOR ME HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.OKAY SURESAMMY LORENZ NEXT TO ME ROSA HURRY TOLLS AND JUST AS A REMINDER IF YOU START WITH THE NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.THANK YOU THANK YOU EVERYBODY.HELLO YOUR HONOR AS WELL.CITY COUNCIL IS CONDEMNING THE NATURE JOURNALS.I HAD AN INTERESTING THINKING THE KEY NOW IS GOOD.

[5:03] THIS COULD GET SOMEONE TO GO SO. AS ALWAYS THEY COME IN WITH INTERESTING NEWS AND TODAY I AM HERE TO SEEK. FULLY THE STARTING OF THE SAFE ACCESS FOR MEDICINE AMENDMENT AS I VIEW MODE. YOU MAN JONES ABOUT THE WONDERFULNESS THAN THE NEED OF THIS I HAVE JUST DEALT WITH RECENTLY A WONDERFUL ISSUE IN THE COURTHOUSE.WHY WAS ALMOST FORCED TO BE OUT AT MY SPEED MY SEIZURE MEDICATION AS WE KNOW MENDOCINO MARIJUANA. TAKEN AWAY FROM ME IN ORDER FOR ME TO GO OUTSIDE AND I WAS ALMOST EXPANDED OUT FROM THE COURT AREA IN THE SCREENING PROCESS.SO LITERALLY LETS BREAK THIS ON A BASIC SIMPLE WAY FEDERALLY WISE OFFICER TRIED TO STOP ME FROM GOING INTO COURT FOR COURT SUMMONS. AND TRIED TO TAKE MY ANTI SEIZURE MEDICATION ON BASIC BARE MINIMUM STUFF THAT'S NOT GOOD.

[6:17] THE START OF ME HAVING MY OWN FOUNDATION FOR FAMILY FIRST HOME. APPRECIATE SUPPORT IN THAT ASPECT OF TODAY IF NOT NEXT WEEK. IF AT ALL POSSIBLE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAKES MENTION TO HAVE THE SAFE ACCESS FOR MEDICINE AMENDMENT COMMITTEE STARTED. ME BEING ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS AS WELL AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE FROM CITY COUNCIL. AND AS I SAID BEFORE THERE WILL BE PEOPLE FROM EVERY WALK OF LIFE IN BOULDER COLORADO HELPING OUT WITH THIS IN MAKING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN KEEP OUR PEOPLE SAFE.THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ONE FOUR S TODAY EVERYBODY KEEP DOING THE GOOD WORK ITS REQUEST FOR. COURT WAS IT THE WRATH OF THIS HAPPENED THIS HAPPENED OVER AT THE BOULDER MUNICIPAL CITY COURT. THE COURT AND WENT IN THERE FOR A TRAFFIC CHARGE FOR AGAIN AS WE HAVE COME IN MULTIPLE TIMES TALKING ABOUT

[7:00] BUYING MY TICKET. AND LITERALLY WITH HOW MY DOCTOR'S NOTES ARE I'M MORE THAN WELCOME TO BRING THESE TO YOU GUYS HAVE TO CARRY MEDICATION OR MEALTIMES. WITH HOW I CAN SEIZE OUT LIKE I DID THREE DAYS AGO FROM A BUS SLOWING DOWN.I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A LOCATION SO THE BOULDER COUNTY JUSTICE CENTER. TO HEAR THE WHINE OVER WHERE THE TRAFFIC WENT OUTSIDE I WANT TO MAKE SURE LET THIS BE KNOWN BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOOD FOR OFFICERS. TO CHECK IN ON THEIR POLICIES THINK IT'S I THINK YOU VERY MUCH THANK YOU AGAIN. SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANY OF

[8:00] THE MICROPHONE TO WORKING RIGHT NOW ARE HAVING SOME REALLY BIG SHEW THEE SICK OR JUST HANG OUT FOR A MINUTE WHILE THEY TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT. THE WIND. THE HALO THE BEST SEAT IN THE MIDST OF THIS.

[9:38] OHTHE OVER THE YEARS KNOW CORE OF THE DRAGON THE REASONS WE SAW THE TOMBS OF THE ABOUT IT.I NO TO YES WE CAN.

[10:18] THE FALL OF THE WAR. LOUIS THE MOON THE END OF THE YEARS YOU GET ON ONE COUNT OF WIRE TO THE EYE.

[11:18] THE SHOW THE USUALLY HAS A SENSE OF THE SIX YEARS. HE NEVER USED PIECE OF SHIT.

[12:35] AND ON THE VIEW OF OPENING OF THE KIDS DO IT FROM BEING THE GOOD OF THE PLANE.

[13:07] THE REQUEST IS THE NOTION THAT THE HEART THE SOUL THE SOMETHING EXCITING HAPPENING THE AISLES LOOK LIKE. THE REST AND CALM THE BEES SOLDIER WHO HAS THE EFFECT THE BEACH AND PIER FOR THE YEAR.YES THOSE SHARING THE WONDERS OF THE PUPPIES ON THE SHOW WHICH I STILL ACHE. THE RUSSIAN AND HUNG THEM ON HOW THE CONCERT. THE READING THAT WEEK.SHE HAS A COPY YET WE CAN CONTINUE.I ALREADY DID THAT WAS EXCITING.HOWARD IMMEDIATELY

[14:00] MIKE REFERRED TO. OK ROSA RIOS WAS A U K LYNNE SEGAL AFTER WHEN WE HAVE DAN GREENBERG. ALL OF THE STATE.TO THAT THE ACTION AS IT BURNED FOR THAT PARTICULATES BEING SAMPLED.THEY NEED TO BE AND

[15:02] SAMPLED WELL MY DAD WAS AN AIR POLLUTION CONTROL. SPECIALIST AT THE FAA AND SHE OBSERVED BEFORE HE DIED AND TWENTY CAN THAT THE KEEPER FILTERS WERE POINTED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION TO ACTUALLY CAPTURE. A STANDARD WHEN FLOW THAT WOULD BRING PARTICULATES INTO IT.ALSO THERE'S AN ISSUE OF AGGREGATION AND DIRT LIKE THAT THAT THE PLUTONIUM PARTICLES WHEN YOU MEASURE WHEN YOU LOOK AT JUST THE DIRT.IT'S NOT ENOUGH YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE DUST. BECAUSE ONCE HIT AND WITH ALL THE TWINS OUT THERE BUT JUST BLOWS YOU KNOW IT BREAKS IT APART AND THEN YOU GET THE PARTICULATES LOOKING OUT. AT YOU KNOW THE PLUTONIUM PARTICULATES ARE VERY SMALL AND ALL IT TAKES IS ONE ALPHA PARTICLE. AND TEN YEARS LATER YOU DIE OF CANCER LIKE MY MOM DID OF LEUKEMIA WHEN SHE WAS THIRTY SEVEN YEARS OLD.SO REGARDING OUR POINTS BEING SHOWN. AT THE MEETINGS PLEASE

[16:00] INVESTIGATE THAT I WANT THAT TO BE ON THE ART ON THE SCREEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING REMOTELY. FROM THE VIDEO AND IT CAN BE LOOKED AT AHEAD OF TIME AND VETTED IF THERE'S ANY CONCERN OF INAPPROPRIATE MATERIAL GOING ON. SO I REALLY DON'T SEE ANY EXCUSE FOR THIS BUT CHECK WITH THE POLICE CHECK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WITH CHANNEL EIGHT AND THE PLEASE GET THAT UP THERE BECAUSE WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.THANK YOU AND THEN AMANDA LAST GAME.GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DAN GREENBERG OR A WRITTEN STATEMENT TO MAKE SURE I KEEP THIS TO TWO MINUTES.I VOLUNTEER WITH THE SMALL GROUP CALLED ENERGY FREEDOM COLORADO THAT IS ADVOCATING FOR A PROCESS INVOLVING ALL COLORADO STAKEHOLDERS AT THE LEGISLATURE OR THE PUC. TO INVESTIGATE THE MERITS OF COMMUNITY CHOICE ACT AGGREGATION IN OTHER WAYS THAT COMMUNITIES COULD EXERCISE MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR SOURCES OF ELECTRICITY.

[17:03] I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSEVERANCE IN PURSUING A MUNICIPAL FOR BOULDER. SEEMS LIKE EXCEL IS MADE IS DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE AS POSSIBLE IN THE CITY'S HARD WORK. ON THAT PROJECT HAS ENCOURAGED OTHER COMMUNITIES TO. QUESTION THEIR DEPENDENCE ON EXCEL AND HAS PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN ENCOURAGING OTHER COMMUNITIES TO SET AMBITIOUS GOALS FOR THE CARBON EYES IN THEIR ELECTRICITY. ALONG WITH BOULDER DENVER PUEBLO IN A RAPIDLY GROWING LIST OF OTHER COLORADO COMMUNITIES HAS PLEDGED TO ACHIEVE HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY BETWEEN TWENTY TWENTY FIVE IN TWENTY THIRTY FIVE. UNFORTUNATELY WITH XL IS THEIR MONOPOLY SUPPLIER THESE COMMUNITIES CURRENTLY HAVE NO PATH TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT MUNICIPAL IS A SIAN DOES NOT WORK OUT FOR BOULDER.ANOTHER OPTION MAY BE COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION OR. CCA WOULD ENABLE COMMUNITIES TO USE THEIR BULK BUYING BUYING POWER TO LEVERAGE EXCEPTIONAL DEALS. FOR THEIR CITIZENS TO

[18:01] PURCHASE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ENERGY ARE VERY KE SOMETHING VERY CLOSE TO IT FROM COMPETITIVE RETAIL SUPPLIERS. FERVENTLY THAT THE THIRTEEN STATES IN GREEN ON THIS ON THIS CHART AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA HAVE VIBRANT FULLY RETAIL TOM COMPETITIVE MARKETS.THE SEVEN SHOWN THERE THAT HAVE STARS ARE HAVE ENABLED COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION AND HAVE VIBRANT SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS BRINGING HIGH LEVELS OF RENEWABLE POWER TO CONSUMERS AT LOW PRICES.WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH BOULDER AND OTHER COLORADO COMMUNITIES. TO DEVELOP THE CRITICAL MASS NEEDED TO LAUNCH THIS INVESTIGATION IS INVESTIGATION AND TO SEE IT THROUGH TO ITS CONCLUSION THANK YOU. SO MR. GREENBERG THANK YOU FOR COMING AND NINE TOTALLY SUPPORT CCA BUT. AS YOU KNOW WE CAN DO THAT THIS TEA AND SO I'M WONDERING ARE YOU WORKING AT THE STATE LEVEL TO GET THIS CHANGE.SO ARE OUR GOAL IS TO START WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES TO DEVELOP KIND OF A CRITICAL MASS SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT TO THE STATE LEVEL YES I TOTALLY AGREE IT REQUIRES LEGISLATION.THANK YOU THANK

[19:05] YOU ALL ALSO CAN USE THE SAME AS THAT SLIDE SHOW AS GOOD AS AMANDA.AFTER A MAN THAT WE HAVE THE ON THE MORTAL REMAINS IN AND OF LASTING GAME.I LIVE AT ELEVEN HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHTH STREET HERE IN BOULDER. AND AS WE ALL KNOW HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS IS A BIG ISSUE IN BOULDER AND HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING THERE'S A HIGH COST FOR HOUSING HERE.ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED IS THAT OUR DISCRIMINATION STATUTES COVER A NUMBER OF OUR ORDINANCE AND SORRY COVER NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CLASSES THAT THEY PROTECT.ONE THING IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ECONOMIC STATUS.THIS LEAVES PEOPLE WITH INCOME FOR DISABILITY OR SECURITY BUT ALSO THOSE USING SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS VULNERABLE TO NOT HAVE A STRICT ACCESS TO HOUSING THAT THE SHOW. IN DENVER RECENTLY AMENDED THEIR ANTI DISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE

[20:00] TO INCLUDE ECONOMIC STATUS. IN ORDER TO PROTECT PEOPLE THAT DO USE ACTUALLY VOUCHERS. AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD MODEL FOR US TO USE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AS ARE ADDRESSING HOUSING HOMELESSNESS ISSUES IN BOULDER.YOU WILL LET HER FINISH.OK WE HAVE SOME NEWS FOR YOU.WILL WE JUST PASSED SUCH A MESS OR MEASURE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.OK WELL I JUST MISS IT I'M SORRY THAT'S THE MAJOR SUPPORTER BUT SEE HOW RESPONSIVE WE ARE I. GUESS RACE APART TO PREVENT DISCRIMINATION IN HOUSING FOR FOLKS. BASED ON THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME. AS WELL AS THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS AND ON TOP BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KIND OF AT SOME POINT ADDRESS THE DISCREPANCY IN RAMADAN TENANT RIGHTS HERE. RIGHT NOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT. COMPANIES MANAGEMENT COMPANIES HAVE ALL OF THE BARGAINING POWER AND THERE'S NOT MUCH BARGAINING POWER THAT IT'S LEFT UP TO TEN IT'S. TIME IT'S NOT REALLY HELPING WITH THE ISSUE FINDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I'M KIND OF MAINTAINING THOSE RIGHTS AND THE PEOPLE. HOUSING IS A FUNDAMENTAL THING

[21:00] THAT PEOPLE NEED AND THERE'S REALLY UNEQUAL BARGAINING POWER ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NO LIMITS ON HOW MUCH RENT CAN BE RAISED.THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LEEWAY IN WHAT LEASES REQUIRE I'M JUST KIND OF REVISITING. WHAT THE RIGHTS ARE AND THERE'S A DISCREPANCY IN WHAT LANDLORDS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT TENANTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO. ME A THANK YOU THANK HIM AND YON AND THEN MORE AND SEEKING GOOD EVENING ON MYANMAR'S EL TWENTY SEVEN FIVE UPLAND.HI ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND CITY ATTORNEY.I'M SPEAKING ABOUT VINE STREET A STREET IS BEING BUILT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU HAVE A NEW CONSENT AGENDA ARE. THE REQUESTS TO FIX TWO TO REDUCE ER RIGHT AWAY OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES I'M FAVOR OF THAT.HOWEVER THERE ARE TWO ISSUES WAS THE STREET AND I WROTE YOU AN EMAIL THIS AFTERNOON WITH THEM AFTER.

[22:03] ONE OF THEM IS AS PROPOSED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY THERE WILL NOT BE A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK. AND YOU KNOW SORT OF BEATS THE OF ME THAT WE'RE BUILDING STREETS WAS OUTSIDE BOOKS ANIME ON THE CITY OF BOULDER.THERE'S A SECTION WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY GETS NARROWED DOWN FROM FORTY FEET TO THIRTY FEET. AND THE WAY THE INGENIOUS DEALT WITH IS THEY LET THE CAR PAVEMENT GO UNIMPEDED FOR TWENTY TWO FEET THEY LEAVE THE EIGHT FOOT DRAINAGE GO UNIMPEDED BUT THE PEDESTRIANS THEY GONNA STOP.SO IF YOU ARE HANDICAPPED BOY OF THE STROLLER YOU HAVE TO KNOW GO THROUGH THE DRAINAGE DITCH. SHARE THE STREET WITH CARS FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY FEET AND THEN YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN IT'S VERY TO ME STRAIGHTFORWARD TO JUST NEVER THE PAVEMENT WE ACTUALLY DO THAT.OFF TO THE FACT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AS TRAFFIC CALMING EVERYBODY KNOWS IF YOU SLOW DOWN CARS. U SAVE CAR DRIVERS LIVES AND PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS ARE JUST NARROWING THE STREET ON BY FIVE FEET

[23:00] SIX MT. LEAVES PLENTY OF WAYS FOR THE CARS WE HAVE THE STREET NORTH BOULDER ON UTICA LANE THAT'S FOR LIKE STH I THINK THIRTY HOUSES AND IT'S NOW OR TEN PLACES TO TWELVE FEET.YOU KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY WELL TO SLOW DOWN CAR SO. I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU REQUEST YOU ENGINEERS OR THE ENGINEERS OF THE DEVELOPER. WAS HE A TO JUST COME UP WITH A NARROW STREET THE OTHER ONE IS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING NOW AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS ALSO NOT COMPLETE. SO IT'S A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT GROUP THAT FORMED AN LLC WERE NOT EVERY RESIDENT IS INCLUDED AND THEY CHOSE TO ONLY. STUB OUT LOTS TO THE MEMBERS NOT EVERYBODY ON THE STREETS I THINK THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED TO THAT YOU HAVE A COMPLETE NETWORK. THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ONCE A STREET IS BUILT THAT EVERYBODY CUTS TRENCHES INTO THE NEW ASPHALT THAT IS NOW A CITY PUBLIC. THANK YOU BUT WE HAVE A QUESTION. WE'RE JUST YOUNG THINGS HAD BEEN E MAILING US ABOUT THIS AND THINGS WILL COME TONIGHT SO I JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS FOR DISCUSSION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA THAN THE EYE.DID YOU

[24:03] KNOW DID THEY EVER TALK ABOUT PUTTING THE SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ST.NOT THAT I KNOW OFF AND IS SECOND TO BE A STREET HE SAID THE CITY WELL YES OF COURSE THANK YOU JOHN MOORE AND ALAN FORWARD TO.WELL I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE FIRE PLAN FOR BOULDER COUNTY AND THIS SUMMER I LIVED NEXT TO THE LATE CHRISTINE FIRE AND EXPERIENCE THIS BREAD FROM THAT. THOUGH I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IN THEIR FIRE PLAN. NOT JUST HOW WIND AND CHANGES NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME BUT WHAT HAPPENED A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME WHAT HAPPENED WHAT THIS FIRE IS. THE BARRIERS THAT WERE CUT I WERE PUT UP IN THE DIRECTION THE WIND BLOWS THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME HOWEVER OF COURSE ON THAT ONE NIGHT. IT DIDN'T GO THAT WAY SO IF YOU DARE.THEY HAD

[25:06] INCORPORATED A FULL PLAN IT WOULDN'T HAVE SPREAD TO THE FOURTEEN THOUSAND ACRES AND TAPPING ARE ALL AREA THERE IS LESS LIKELY IMPACT. ON THE COMMUNITY HOWEVER HERE BEING SO CLOSE TO SO MANY TOWNS AND CITIES AND OTHER THAT. COULD CAUSE A LOT MORE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS OF SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THE POINT DAY. AND IT'S IMPORTANT AS PLANNED FOR EACH INSTANCE THAT COULD HAPPEN REALLY CONSIDER THOSE BECAUSE NOT PLANNED IN ADVANCE. AT WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO THAT EMERGENCY SITUATION IT'S HARD TO THINK OF THINGS THAT EXACT MOMENT WE CUE THE KEEPER RINGGIT OR TO CHECK OUT.

[26:04] THAT WE NEED A GOOD FIRE PLAN THAT TAKES NO ACCOUNT WIND CHANGING DIRECTION LIKE IT DID IN THE SUMMER. ALLEN OWENS AND THEN IT WAS A BIT UNDER. THE AGE OF THOSE TWO ISSUES NINE HE WROTE. OVER THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS. THERE'S BEEN ABOUT SEVEN TIMES SOMEBODY HAS COME UP. IN PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED PEOPLE OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY TAKING THEIR BELONGINGS THERE HAD BEEN A COUPLE REPORTS FILED AFTER AUSTIN HAS DONE SOME INVESTIGATION FOR MY UNDERSTANDING. AS ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT ARE SEVERELY INJURED WITH BROKEN ARMS.CHATTER CHATTER WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS GO ANY FURTHER.I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY. TALKING ABOUT TAKING ARMS HE TRIED IT IN THEMSELVES TO KEEP FROM BEING INJURED. AND

[27:00] AS I SAID I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS SPILL OUT ONTO THE STREET SOMEBODY IN THE SINK IS INJURED OR HURT. YOU THE SHIRT THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SO MY QUESTION IS IS IT JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL LAWYERS TODAY GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING IN. AND IT APPEARS TO BE ONE INDIVIDUAL ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT SURE. I MEAN LAST NIGHT MY HEAD WAS SMASHED INTO A SEAM IT WHILE WITH MY BELONGINGS TAKING ONLY CAN SHE SEWED THIS PERSON IS JUST COMING WHEN YOU'RE SLEEPING.GRANTED BEING AND HELPING US ALL TO YOU WHILE YOU'RE SLEEPING. AND YOU MENTION I'M ASKING IS IT HAPPENING IN THE SAME LOCATION IT IS HAPPENING AT THE LOCATION IS BETWEEN SCOTT CARPENTER PARK AND ENERGY FOR. WHICH THE SECOND PARK CENTRAL PARK CENTRAL PARK OF US ALONG BOULDER CREEK AGAIN YOU SAID AN OFFICER IS LOOKING INTO IT.YES AUTHOR

[28:08] AUSTIN AS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING AS SEVERAL PEOPLE ABOUT IT AND HAS FOR MY UNDERSTANDING AGO AND HAS NOT COME TO E SOLUTIONS OR WERE ANY SUSPECTS IN WHEN THE PERSON VIEWERS.YOU ALSO SPOKE ABOUT BROKEN ARMS AND BOW YOUR HEAD GETTING SMASHED AND THE PERSON JUST COMES AND WHAT HAPPENED.I MEAN YOU ARE SLEEPING I WAS THREE GAME AND NOW WAS ON MY PACK THEM AND SOMEBODY CAME UP. TOOK MY HEAD IS SMASHED HE BANGED INTO THE CEMENT WALL BEHIND ME TAKING MY BELONGINGS IN RUNNING. I CAME IN I TRIED CHASING HOME UNFORTUNATELY MY LUNGS AND LEGS WILL NOT LET ME CATCH UP WITH SOMEONE THE STATUS.MOM WILL THINK I

[29:00] WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD CALL FOR SOME KIND OF INCREASED PATROL. THEM IN TIME OF NIGHT WAS THIS EARLIER LATER IN AT NIGHT WHICH WAS PARTIALLY HAPPEN TO BE AROUND FOUR AM THIS MORNING. BECAUSE I JUST USES THEM. SOMETHING TO ADD WAITING TO HAPPEN CONCERNING GESSO AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO OUR TENSION AND MOM WE WILL LOOK INTO IT WITH STAFF. AND AN INCOME WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT THE KEY POSTS IN THE LOOP.I WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW THIS IS STOPPED OR NOT I SURE WILL THANK YOU THANK YOU.IT WAS A BIT.I HATE THE MULLAHS OF IRAN OR IF I LIVE IN TWENTY SEVEN TWENTY FOUR AND HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE SEVENTY SIX.I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT

[30:00] THE THREE ELEVEN MAPLETON. DECISION AND HOW IT'S PROGRESSING NOW YOU'D PROMISED A TRAFFIC PLAN WHICH POLICE AND WEAVERS POST BE WORKING ON BUT I HEARD EASTON BUSY WHATEVER MONTHS. THE PROBLEM WAS OKAY ACTUALLY LATELY A WE'RE AT NOW IS A GEORGE KARA KEY AND MR. YATES STATED THAT MR. DELA MARES. PRESENTATION OF THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS IN THE TRAFFIC VOLUME ARE SCARE TACTICS.SO WE TESTED OUT THE CITY AND SOME CITY PEOPLE TO TRANSPORTATION ARE NOW WORKING ON THE NUMBERS AND THEY'RE COMING OUT TO BE FAR GREATER THAN WHAT WE HAD BEEN TOLD FOR SCARE TACTICS. I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I LIVE ON THE STREETS. OF THE THREE ELEVEN DECISION IS RECKLESS AND TAKES IT'S AN OVERWHELMING TASK TRAFFIC PLAN IS GREATER THAN TWENTY THOUSAND TRUCKS NOW. FANDOM IF ITS DANGERS AND THE ATTORNEY I BELIEVE MR.

[31:00] GARY'S BEEN SERVED A LETTER REGARDING THE DIESEL FUEL. PARTICULATES WHAT OUR POLLUTION THAT THOSE OF US AND THE CHILDREN ON THE ROUTES ARE GOING TO BE EXPOSED TO HIM.WE ACTED AS ASK YOU STOP THE SITE REVIEW UNTIL HIS TRAFFIC PLAN IS FOR THE REES ALL THE OTHER PROBLEM IS. ALSO CONCERNING TO HER ELEVENTH THAT I'VE DISCOVERED IS THAT THE CONVEYANCE OF MAXWELL STREET IT WHICH I ESTIMATE I BEEN A REALTOR MANY YEARS IS WORTH AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLARS.I WAS JUST GIVEN TO THE DEVELOPER AND WEEP SPOKEN MR. GUERIN HE SAID THIS CAN BE CHALLENGED AND POSSIBLY TAKEN BACK THROUGH TAKINGS ACTION. IF I WERE TO REQUEST COUNCIL TO DO THAT I AM REQUESTING YOU TO LOOK INTO THIS A LITTLE FURTHER AND TAKE IT BACK THAT SO. IN MY ESTIMATE OF THE JOB SITUATION FIFTY THOUSAND A YEAR THAT'S TWENTY JOBS IN THE CITY THAT HE WOULD RESTORE IF YOU TAKE BACK WHAT YOU OWN ALREADY.IT

[32:06] WAS ERRONEOUSLY GIVEN AWAY TO DEVELOPING FUELS WITH THANK YOU OKAY WE HAVE TO CALL AND WE HAVE ONE COLOR ON COLOR. OK THIS IS FOR OUR PROJECT TO TRY TO INCREASE PARTICIPATION FROM FOLKS THAT FIND A DISH AT UH THE UH EVEN YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES BEGINNING NOW. THE LAW IN NINETEEN THIRTY THREE THE ABILITY. TO EXPERIENCE THE SALESPERSON TO

[33:00] TWO MONTHS AGO. I NEVER GET AROUND ON CRUTCHES THE AIR RIGHT NOW IS A CRACK IN STICKING TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SECTION OF THE SIDEWALK OR WHAT IS FOR ALL THE SNOW OR RAIN. THE COURT TO GET A WEEK LATER WAITING FOR ANY ACTION THE CITY FORGED. THE CRISIS WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR OR STROLLER ACROSS TREES RE CROSS THE STREET JUST WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. TO GREAT RESPONSE FROM THE OVERALL RESPONSE FOR ANY SIDEWALKS OR BIKE THAT USES SLOW TO NONEXISTENT DESTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE.THERE'S BEEN NO

[34:04] ACTION TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL ANY FRUSTRATION OR STATION TO PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS IN THE LAST YEAR WE AT THE CROSSINGS. THE RESPONSE WAS TO NO COUNCIL CAN TALK TO COUNCIL COUNCIL AND TWITTER. THE FRUSTRATION OF CARBON SYSTEM OR TIRES IN THE INQUIRER OLDER CHICKENS PEDESTRIAN OR CYCLIST ONCE AGAIN GET TO SPAR IS COMING NEXT MONTH WITH THE TREACHEROUS APARTMENT YOU.

[35:03] CAN SEE HER WITH THAT FIRM ARE GOING TO CLOSE AND IN COMMENTS AND OR WEDNESDAY I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP SO UNFORTUNATELY BY DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF CURTIS SAID.MOM SAYS HE CAN USE IT ON OUT THERE GAGA. SO FORTUNATELY ++MUSIC PLAYING;; THE IT'S A DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF CURTIS JOHNSON WAS IN THE AUDIENCE AND I BELIEVE HE WAS TALKING TO TWO OF OUR OPEN COMMENT BY COMMONERS MR. LAWRENCE AND ALSO MR. OWENS.YES YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WHICH I WAS OUT WHOLE TALKING SCHWARTZ.YES WE DO THOUGH SO MAYBE IF I CAN ADD TO THAT.SO WE DO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION AS FAR AS THE JUSTICE CENTER.SO THE JUSTICE CENTER ON THE SECURITY IS OPERATED BY THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE CHIEF DISTRICT JUDGE ACTUALLY SETS THE POLICY FOR THE BUILDING.SO WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL FORWARD AND THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH THEM.WELL FOR THIS TO THOSE

[36:11] CONTACTS ON SO THERE CAN BE FOLLOW UP. IN SPECIFICALLY TO SAY I WOULD THINK I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE TAKING ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES FROM FORKS RIGHT SO THAT IT WOULD BE JUST A FOLLOW UP REQUEST.CERTAINLY FOR THAT THAT'S ONE AND CAN YOU GIVE US A STATUS UPDATE ON. THE ISSUE RAISED BY THE GENTLEMAN THAT ATTACKS ON HOMELESS PEOPLE YET SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THOSE INCIDENTS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO THE POLICE. BUT THOSE THAT HAVE OFFICER AUSTIN IS AN OFFICER THAT TYPICALLY WORKS THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR. ESPECIALLY EARLY IN MORNING AND SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AS TO WHAT THE STATUS THAT CASES INVOLVING MR. OWEN. AND WITH REGARDS TO ADDITIONAL PATROLS AT FOUR AM WE HAVE OFFICERS OUT ABOUT THIS PICTURE IN THE PARKS AND KEEP AND I'LL PASS THAT ALONG AS WELL.THANK

[37:05] YOU VERY MUCH AVAILABLE. ON AND I THINK IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE CALLERS SAID THAT MR. HYDE DOWN. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY HE HAS E MAILED CONSOLE AND A FEW OCCASIONS. SO WE WILL LOOK INTO THE INQUIRE BOULDER TICKETS WHAT RESPONSE IT HAS MADE AND WILL FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL. SO HE AND HIS CONCERNS WERE SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT NOT RESPONDING GREAT SO THAT'S SPECIFICALLY THAT HE WANTS TO TO HAVE SOME ANSWERS. THE JOURNEY IS THAT HE USES INQUIRE BOULDER WHICH I'VE USED TO LIVE.UM AND I'VE HAD POSITIVE. RESULTS BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON HE'S NOT GETTING POSITIVE RESULTS IN MY EXPERIENCE USING INQUIRE BOULDER IS IT'S USUALLY RESOLVED WITHIN A WEEK. AND THEN THEY SEND YOU A FOLLOW UP E MAIL SAYING THAT THE ISSUES BEEN RESOLVED IN IOWA HE'S GOING CHECK IT OUT.

[38:06] RICHARDS GOOD AND SO I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THAT I HAVEN'T USED INQUIRE BOULDER BUT DO YOU USE YOUR NAME. SO WHEN YOU DO THE EASIER NAME YOU GIVE YOUR. THE REASON THAT YOU MAY BE GETTING A PRETTY QUICK RESPONSE I HATE TO SAY THAT BUT THE MS HUG IT IS TRUE FOR THE TIME I'M. HOPING THEY TREAT ALL OF THIS EXACTLY THIS ABSOLUTELY THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HOPE THAT STEPHEN A DEL I'M JUST HOPING. EVEN PUT LISA'S NAME RIGHT BEHIND THE I'M GUESSING THAT DRAINAGE ISSUES ARE HARDER TO FIX IT WOULD BE MY GUEST. BUT PERMIT ME A PESSIMIST SO I I WERE DEFENDING A LAWSUIT INVOLVING A TRIP AND FALL ON THE SIDEWALK SO I REVIEW TOLD THE INQUIRER BOULDERS. REPORTS ON SIDEWALKS FOR SINCE THEY STARTED AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW FAST THEY GET THE THINGS THEY. ARE ONE OF THE THINGS

[39:00] THAT WE CARE ABOUT DEFENDING LAWSUITS IS WHAT THE CITY PRACTICE A FEW REPORTER A CRACKED SIDEWALK OR TRIPPING HAZARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FROM JUST MY REVIEW I HAD THEM PULL EVERY SIDEWALK REPORT.I THINK IT WAS SINCE FOURTEEN WHEN THEY STARTED DOING IT OR TWELVE MAYBE.AND THEY GET TO THEM.I MEAN I GET TO THEM WITHIN A WEEK TO HAVE TO MOBILIZE ACCRUING GET THEM OUT THERE. THE CITY ALSO HAS A CITY WIDE PROJECT TO REDO ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY. THAT IF THEY'VE PRIORITIZED EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY BASED ON THAT DAMAGES THEIR SIDEWALKS IN THE GOING THROUGH. THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU LIVE ON THE HILL YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT THEY THEY THEY READ READ IT ALL THE BAD SIDEWALKS THE CONTRACTOR OUT THERE. THAT THAT'S A CITY PROJECT WILL TAKE MAYBE TWENTY YEARS TO RE DO EVERYTHING IN THE CITY BUT THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING IT SO THAT. THERE'S TWO LEVELS THERE'S RESPONSE TO SOMETHING THEY GET TO INQUIRE BOULDER. AND THEN THERE IS A PROACTIVE PROGRAM AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF US IN A COUNTRY THAT HAS A PROACTIVE PROGRAM TO FIX EVERY SIDEWALK IN THE CITY. SO THAT RESTORATION IS ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPRESSIVE ON THIS.I

[40:02] DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE I LOOKED AT THE PHOTOS TODAY IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IT'S A MULTI USE MULTI UNIT HOUSING. RENTAL HOUSING PROJECT HOUSE ON THAT CORNER AND THERE'S A FOUNTAIN AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS SOMETHING OF THE WATER JUST RUNS DOWN INTO THAT AREA AND SO. THIS SIDEWALK PROBABLY DOES NEED TO BE RAISED BECAUSE THE WIND IS PROBABLY DEPRESSED BECAUSE THE WATER HAS BEEN RUNNING DOWN THERE FOR YEARS. SO I'M SURE OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WILL GET ON IT AND I'M SORRY THAT HE'S HAD AN ISSUE IN THE PICTURE WAS HEARTBREAKING CRUTCHES MYSELF IS THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE.IT'S HARD TO GET AROUND I. GET THINGS FOR THE UM. I'VE I'VE HEARD INTERMITTENT REPORTS OF PROBLEMS WITH RESPONSE TIMES AND INQUIRE BOULDER SO. I'D BE INTERESTED AT SOME POINT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ENOUGH WORK TO REQUIRE AN OUT OF FIVE BUT A BIT OF AN UPDATE ON HOW THAT'S WORKING UNLIKE WHAT. WOULD OUR RESPONSE TIME PROMISES ARE AND WHAT THEY END UP ACTUALLY BEING ITSELF BUT THAT REQUEST UP TO. LOOK

[41:00] INTO WHAT WHAT THE LEFT WOULD BE TO DO THAT A LAW THAT WOULD BE GREAT.SAM SIR CHANGING SUBJECTS ALL BUT THREE ELEVEN MAPLETON I DID INDEED AT THE SITE PLAN REVIEW AND SAY I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE GOOD TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AS WELL AS AN ANALYSIS OF TRAFFIC BOTH HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC AND LIGHT CONSTRUCTION TRUCK TRAFFIC SO OUR LOVE TO GET AN UPDATED SOME POINT WHEN THAT IS. EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED AND UM YOU KNOW WHAT THE ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN ARE BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE WESTERN EDGE A LOT. OF THE SAME TOPIC I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS SCARE TACTIC ACCUSATION CAME FROM BUT I. HAVE NEVER USED THE TERM SCARE TACTIC WITH RESPECT TO THIS PROJECT ARE IN A PROJECT I CAN SPEAK FOR MR. KIM BUT I. HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR MR. DELA MARE THE WORK THAT HE DID. ON THAT MATTER AND I'VE

[42:00] HAD NO IDEA ON THE TRUCKS CAN BE AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT'S A SCARE TACTIC IF HE WAS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND SINCERITY.OK ONE OTHER SON THREE LEAD.OK SO I AM ELIZABETH CAN YOU LIST IT ON DWARF BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE ABOUT MAXWELL AND THAT THAT WAS CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND THAT WE THE GUESTS HAVE. GIVEN THAT TO THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERS AND COULD TWEAK IT SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THERE UM AND OH HERE COMES DAVID HE CAN ANSWER.CHIEF DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY TO THE CURE IS THE QUESTION IS HOW IT WAS A CITY COMPENSATED FOR THAT STREAK CASE ARE TYPICALLY WHEN YOU VACATE ITS TREE.AH IS IT NOT WORKING. THE EGO MAYBE A LITTLE CLOSER. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU BAKE INDUSTRY USE THIS IF IT'S RIGHT AWAY IS GIVEN TO US.SO

[43:03] WHEN YOU FAKE IT YOU JUST REMOVE THE CITY'S TRUST OF IT GOES BACK TO THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS WITH REGARD TO MAPLETON CURRENT MAXWELL. FROM ALL INDICATIONS WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO FIND ANY EVIDENCE IT EVER BEEN DEDICATED TO THE TRADITIONAL MANNER WHEN IT WAS DONE I DID MEET WITH. LYNNE SEGAL HIM ASUNDER A FRIEND WHO CHIMED IN AND I'M SORRY AND WHOSE PERSON WHEN A BUDGET PROJECTIONS FOR YOUR HEIGHT. AND THEY PRESENTED SOME MATERIALS TO ME THAT THERE WERE ALSO PRESENTED TO ALL OF YOU DURING THE THREE ELEVEN MAPLETON PROCESS AND BASICALLY WHAT. WHAT WHAT IT WAS WAS. IT WAS EVIDENCE THAT YOU WOULD USE IF YOU WERE TO TRY TO. TAKE THE STREET BACK BY TRYING TO HAVE IT BE DECLARED THE ROADWAY UNDER THE STATE ROADWAY STATUTE SO TO DO THAT IT WAS ITS LITIGATION RIGHT. AND SO I

[44:03] THINK THAT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE IS. THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THAT THEY OWN IT AND THEY DON'T WANT IT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BUT THERE ARE SOME INDICATIONS THAT WAY YOU KNOW IF YOU WERE TO HAPPEN. IF YOU WERE TO ENGAGE IN LITIGATION TO HAVE IT BE TO CLEAR THE ROADWAY.THERE'S EVIDENCE AVAILABLE THAT YOU COULD THAT HE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE AN ARGUMENT TO DO THAT SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE STORY AROUND THAT.OK OK THANK YOU FOR THAT UM THE ISSUE OF THE SIDEWALKS THINK WE'RE IN A DRESS WHEN WE GET TO CONSENT WHICH IS NEXT.SO ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES THAT BUT SO ERM. THE LYNCH EAGLE BROUGHT UP THIS ISSUE OF POWER POINTS AND PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO WATCH THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND I'M NOT THE TECHNICAL PERSON AT ALL THERE. ARE

[45:03] PEOPLE ARE THE TWO TV AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT IS HOME AS A WATCHER OF OUR OPEN SPACE AND PLANNING BOARD.IT IS ERM AND I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WATCH CITY COUNCIL DECIDE WHEN. IT IS VERY HARD TO FOLLOW THE DISCUSSION. WHEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE ALL PULLING INTO WE'RE. TALKING OFF OF AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY IN A DISSENT AND HECTIC BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY. THAT WE COULD SOMEHOW SPLIT THE SCREEN AND GET POWERPOINT AND ONE HALF AND SO I'M JUST I'M JUST RAISING THE ISSUE.I'M SO SHE'S TO BE CLEAR WE DO SHOW THE POWER POINTS THAT STEPS TO STAFF THOSE LIMBS CONCERN IS POWER POINTS THAT THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO PUT UP THEIR. LOW VIDEOS VIDEOS AND WE DON'T SHOW THOSE BECAUSE WE CAN CONTROL THE CONTENT AND LYNN SUGGESTION THAT WE DO A PRE SHOWING REVIEW. WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD BE EDITING CONTENT WHICH WOULD COULD RAISE ALL SORTS OF FIRST AMENDMENT.SO WE HAVE A

[46:06] POLICY THAT WE ONLY SHOW ONES THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE CONTENT OF EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM CAN SEE THE ONES THAT THE COMMUNITY BRINGS FORWARD IN THEIR FILMS. THEY'RE JUST NOT BROADCAST ON TV BECAUSE WE COULD END UP WITH AN FCC I WAS REFERRING TO THOSE I THINK. WE COULD ON ON JUST OUR COUNCIL AND PLANNING BOARD AN OPEN SPACE MAYBE DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT LITTLE BIT BETTER.THAT'S OKAY THAT'S MY ONLY EXAM.I THINK IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO TALK ABOUT CHANGING THE POLICY TO BE HONEST WE. WE MIGHT END UP WITH AN FCC VIOLATION BUT IF WE DID A REVIEW WE MIGHT NOT. GET SEEMS TO ME WORTHWHILE MUST BECOME A NEED WE HAVE A NIGHT THAT. ARE BROUGHT BY CITIZENS OR POWERPOINT IT USUALLY ONLY THREE OR FOUR AND I BELIEVE THOSE END UP ON THE CLERK'S COMPUTER.SO STOP BY THERE CAN BE A SWAP OF FATE KEPT ONE APPROVED AND THEN THEY SWITCHED IT OUT.SO

[47:06] ANYWAY I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE REQUEST BUT THAT SAID WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO REVIEW. YOU CAN HAVE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. AT THE CONTENT OF PEOPLE'S POWER POINTS YOU COULD JUST REFUSE TO BROADCAST ONE THAT VIOLATED SOMETHING RIPPER SENSITIVE WITHOUT ANY EDITING AT ALL AND WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION. WOULD HAVE TO BE A GOVERNMENT THAT WE DO MAKE THAT DECISION BUT HE STARTED SHOWING SOME THAT WE THOUGHT WAS OFFENSIVE WE WOULD STOP IT.I KNOW THIS WE WOULD IF IT WAS WHILE IT WAS IF SOMEBODY SHOWED SOMETHING WITH. NEW PEOPLE WE PROBABLY BLAKE'S TURN IT OFF WOULD WE NOT. I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING STAFF MEMBERS MAKING THAT KIND OF DECISION WE DON'T HAVE TO DELAY EVERYTHING WE DO IS GO HIS BROADCAST IMMEDIATELY SO. AND THE SUPREME COURT HAS STRUGGLED FOR YEARS ABOUT WHAT'S OBSCENE IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT POSITION OF TELL CITY STAFF YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE WHAT'S NOT WHEN YOU GET INTO.

[48:02] WHAT IF IT HAS A SORT OF A NAKED PICTURE WITH A CONTENT BASED MESSAGE THAT CRITICAL OF CITY COUNCIL. THEN YOU GET A MIXED MESSAGE WHERE THIS IS CITY STAFF IS SAYING YOU CAN SHOW THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING CENSORSHIP.I MEAN IT WOULD BE CENSORSHIP FREE JUST SAID THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHARE IT AT ALL. THE MORE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE PUT ON THE AIR AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT. WE COULD HAVE A REASONABLE JUDGMENT MADE BY STAFF AND THEY'D SAY THIS ONE DOESN'T GO ON THE AIR AND THIS ONE DOES.I THINK THAT'S A REALLY BAD IDEA I ADVISE STRONGLY AGAINST IT.OK BUT IT IS KIND OF ODD THAT IF YOU'RE HERE YOU GET TO SEE IT BUT IF YOU'RE AT HOME YOU DON'T LIKE THAT'S A WEIRD STANDARD. EXCEPT THE HOME IS THAT IT'S THE AIRWAVES IN THE FCC CONTROLS THAT ARE THERE RULES ABOUT THAT. HE I MEAN THERE'S THE BROADCASTING SOMETHING. IS IS IT'S OWN CLASS RATED IT'S THEIRS LAW RELATED TO THAT I JUST I DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT SIMPLY ISN'T THERE IN THAT. PREDICAMENT OF TRYING

[49:03] TO JUDGE CONTENT AND WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE MEANING OR NOT AT STARDOM THINK THAT'S A PLACE TO THEM AND MORE AND MORE MOVIES THAT. ARE FAR MORE TIME THAT IT'S NOT JUDGING WHETHER IT'S. APPROPRIATE FOR THE MEETING OR NOT IT'S WHETHER IT'S TELEVISED AS A SEPARATE INSERT OR NOT I MEAN I I UNDERSTAND THE HESITATION BUT IF THE TEST IS NOT FREE SPEECH.THE TEST IS WHAT GIVES THE MIRRORS UNDERSTAND I STILL THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT JUDGMENT CALL WOULD BE ASKING CITY STAFF TO. MY CAMERA JUST ASKING LISA YOU'VE BEEN ON HERE LONGEST WE EVER HAD ANY THING INAPPROPRIATE. THE RIVER HAVE NUDE PICTURES ARE HORRIBLE THINGS WITH CHILDREN OR I DON'T KNOW WHO DAVID DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING I DON'T I DON'T AND THAT'S SINCE NINETY FIVE SO NO.OK SO WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT SO I GUESS LOLA SUM UP BY SAYING THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE DON'T DO IT.THERE'S AN

[50:06] INTERESTING POLICY DEBATE THERE AND PERHAPS WIN IF WE HAVE OUR RETREAT IN JANUARY WE CAN DISCUSS IT FOR THAT WORK.OK SO WITH THAT I WOULD SUGGEST WE MOVE ON TO CONSENT CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT IS ITEMS THROUGHOUT.OKAY WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PULLING OF AN ISSUE. FIRST ON A TACKLE FOR THE I BELIEVE I HAVE AS TO PULL ITEMS THREE K WHICH IS THE JAIL OVERCROWDING RESOLUTION AND I WOULD STILL LIKE TO PULL IT TOO.WITHOUT DELVING INTO HIS SUBSTANCE OF THE ISSUE FOR WHAT THE QUESTION IS IF ENOUGH PEOPLE WANT TO DISCUSS IT AND HAVE INPUT.WE COULD SIMPLY

[51:10] SCHEDULE IT FOR A HEARING IN AN UPCOMING MEETING INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT AT TEN THIRTY. SO THAT THAT'S THE QUESTION BEFORE COUNCIL TO PROCESS QUESTION YOU'RE UP TO ME AND I AM THAT. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO SOME PEOPLE TIME TO CONSIDER SHOWING UP AND SPEAKING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AND UM. AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE OTHERS MORE TIME TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION.AM I REALLY DO SUPPORT HIM GOING AND HAVING A HEARING LATER. I'M ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT AS I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE COUNTY COME TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE. SOLD TO LEARN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW THE ALTERNATIVE SENTENCING FOR SO THE WOODWORK WHAT TO THINK THE COST MIGHT BE AND I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. TO ANSWER

[52:03] IMPORTANT DISCUSSION IN THE COMMUNITY AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO EDIT THEIR OWN. FATE AND WE DID HAVE CHEERFULLY COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT AND HAVE THE CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF HIM AT THAT TIME. WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE FACILITY WAS WE HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING OTHER THAN HIS PRESENTATION. UNDERSTOOD AS OPPOSED TO SAYING AND I WAS A DECENT OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE COUNTIES AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE INTENTIONS WERE REALLY. GOOD STABLE OF COUNCIL HAVE A SEPARATE HEARING IS FINE I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO TACKLE TONIGHT. LISA KNOW I'M HIP I'M FINE WITH IT BEING COLD AND HAVING A DISCUSSION I REALLY DID APPRECIATE SHERIFF KELLY KEVIN AND I THOUGHT HIS PRESENTATIONS HE SAID. BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN CONTACTED TODAY FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND I THINK PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS SO I THINK HEARING MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. IN MOST CITIES

[53:04] JUST TO SAY I AGREE WITH THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT I THINK THAT WE WERE PRIVY TO. AND THAT HAS RAISED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS SO AM HAVING THE TIME TO LOOK AT THEM MORE THOROUGHLY AND BE ABLE TO QUESTION OTHERS THEN SHERIFF KELLY ALONE.I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL PERSONS WITHIN THE COUNTY WHO ARE HAVE BEEN. WORKING ON THIS IS WELL. PLANNED AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MARY PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THIS INFORMATION I WAS SURPRISED. WHEN I WENT TO THE PACKET AND THERE'S JUST THIS RESOLUTE YOU KNOW WHEN PAIGE ANDERSON MORE DEPTH TO SAY ABOUT MONEY HE DID COME AND PRESENT. ID TO APPRECIATE THE SHOOTER IS WHAT IT IS FOLKS AS PROVOKED IS A LARGER POLICY CONVERSATION ABOUT. THE PENAL INSTITUTIONS AND POLICIES THAT LEAD TO YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING INTO IT WHICH IS A PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE DISCUSSION TO HAVE THE COUNTY CAME TO US WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST.SO

[54:06] THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE WEREN'T THERE. SO I GUESS TO ME FOR GOING TO HEAR FROM THE AND I DO THINK WE SHOULD INVITE THE COUNTY BACK WITH SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND MAYBE HAVE ARE. NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS BUT IT IS IMPORTANT.I WOULD ALSO THINK WE WANT MAY BE A MUTE MUNICIPAL JUDGE TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SENTENCING AND SOME OF THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN ALL OF THIS. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE TO ALSO BE AWARE OF THE EXTENT OF THIS PROPOSAL AND I THINK A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. IT IS SIMPLY WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL ENDORSE THE BALLOT INITIATIVE BOMB. BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE ON THEIR DECISION MAKING WHETHER OR NOT TO SUPPORT. BLESSING US

[55:01] AS IT PROVOKES. THE THOUGHT THAT OCEANA STUDY SESSION WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I MEAN IT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL THAT MARY. BROUGHT THE ISSUE UP BECAUSE I WENT AND READ EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE TWENTY SIX TEAM REPORT IN THE COUNTY RESPONDED TO MARY'S QUESTIONS WHICH KIND OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY'RE HEARING FROM ME. THE QUESTION ABOUT ENDORSING THIS COMES DOWN TO HOW WILL THE NEW ALTERNATIVE SENTENCING FOR SO THAT HE FIT INTO THE PROGRAM OF WHAT THEY

[56:00] ARE DOING AND SO I CAN. BE EDUCATIONAL TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.AT THATALL THE WAY IT SOUNDS LIKE CCS GOING TO TRY TO SCHEDULE LISTS LIKE I SAID WE'D ONLY HAVE TIME.WE NEED TO DO IT IN A TIMELY MANNER BEFORE THE ELECTION WILL TRY TO DO SOMETHING A WEEK OR SO RE ARRANGING IN. ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WILL BE LONGER SO THAT DISCUSSION FOR THE SHELVES FOR THAT.OK SO WITH THAT LAST TURN WITH THE HEAD.YET NONE OF THESE WORK.UM I MEAN WHAT IF WHAT IF THEY'D. BEEN HAVING A HEARING ON THE SEASON BUT IF THEY SAY WE DON'T REALLY NEED YOUR ENDORSEMENT MEAN. THIS IS THE CONVERSATION FOR THE CITIZENS TO VOTE ON NOT NECESSARILY US TO DECIDE ON. LIKE WITH A SILLY CAT LITTER WE CAN TELL I THINK THEY COULD REGRET THAT THEY ASKED US BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT.

[57:03] THEY WOULD WANT TO BE A PART OF THE COVERAGE TEAM I GUESS WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A HEARING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ENDORSE IT OR NOT. YET A RESOLUTION RATHER RUN AND PASS A RESOLUTION OR NOT. I'M AFRAID SO THAT'S WHY LIDAT THE YANG IS TO DECIDE TO GET INPUT ON WHAT SHOULD AND YES I MEAN WE COULD ALSO DECIDE YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS WHEN WE WANNA BITE OFF.THAT'S FINE GUESS WHO AND WHO MIGHT CONSIDER IF THE COUNCIL'S HIM WOULD RATHER NOT PASS THIS RESOLUTION WE COULD SIMPLY NOT PASS THE RESOLUTION. THAT'S TRUE WE CAN DECIDE JUST WHAT THIS IS A BIGGER ISSUE AND WHAT WE'VE GOT A FULL PLAY AND WE'RE NOT GOING AWAY AND YANKING IT EARNED. A B FOR THAT TOO I THINK THE DISCUSSION HATS ON DISMISSING. THE ISSUE'S BEEN RAISED BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT. RESOLUTION WOULD BE HELPFUL WHICH IS OFFICALLY MID OCTOBER TO HAVE

[58:00] DISCUSSIONS MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE GREAT TO A JOINT STUDY SESSION WITH COLLEAGUES. SOMETIME LATER THIS IN THE WINTER OR SPRING BUT MAYBE JUST NOT PASS A RESOLUTION TO BE NEUTRAL ON HER FOR THE TIME BEING I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.OK WELL SOME SAY IT'S BEEN TRYING TO SCHEDULE THINGS I KNOW THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE IS TO. TAKE A PASS ON THIS AND SEE IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A LARGER DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE THAT WALL THAT WE ALWAYS DREAM ABOUT THAT THAT THE WEALTH.OK SOUL TO SOUL TO A POST ON THIS INDEFINITELY SHE SAID YES SO I WENT TO PULL OFF.ITEM THREE

[59:00] L AND I CAN NOW EMAIL LITTLE EARLIER AND I CAN GO INTO IT OR WE CAN. ON THE HEAD WAS SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW UP WHILE THE NEARBY RESIDENTS ARE IN THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE WE PROBABLY WON'T GET TO THIS TILL. LATER ON TONIGHT IS SOMEBODY FROM CITY STAFF HERE PREPARED TO ACCEPT BRAIN WHY WE WOULD AND SIDEWALKS.I'M NOT SURE I KNOW THIS GUY COX ASSOCIATES I CAN SPEAK WITH CHARLES TODAY. IMAGININGS AS OFFICE RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THE RIGHT AWAY VACATION FOR CRESTVIEW EAST DURING THE REGULAR MEETING TONIGHT. SOME OF MYANMAR'S L'S COMMENTS INVOLVE GREATER NEIGHBORHOOD AND UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMPUTER TONIGHT SO. PERSONALLY MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE A DELAY THE HEARING TWO OF A LATER DATE THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS WITH ALL THE PLAYERS OR THREE GUYS.

[60:03] AND AND THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME AND TO SOW COUNCIL KNOWS MY ISSUES ONE OF THEM IS WHY ISN'T THERE A SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BUYING. MR. WELL THE PERSON WHO DIDN'T ANNEX THAT HAS TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY FOOT. AREA WHERE HE DOESN'T WANT TO PUT A SIDEWALK HE DOES. HAVE WATER AND SEWER CITY WATER INTO EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT ANNEXED IN THE CONDITION OF GETTING THERE IS THAT WHEN WE ASK THEM. TO ANNEX HE WILL ANNEX AND HE ISN'T DOING THAT SO I GUESS ONE MIGHT THINK SHOULD BE WELL AND WE NEED TO FIGHT FEET OF SIDEWALK ON HIS RIGHT AWAY. SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN THIS WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT THE STABS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND I JUST THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE ADULTS HERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A STREET.THE CITY'S GOING TO BE THE ONE WHO HAS TO MEAN CLOSE SO IT SEEMS TO ME THE RIGHT THING IS THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAY ABOUT AN HOUR WHILE THEY CAN.THERE'S NO ASPHALT REALLY

[61:03] IN THERE I WALKED IT THIS AFTERNOON AND IT STILL JUST A DIRT ROAD THEY DO HAVE.I GUESS IT'S A SEWER LINE THAT BUILT UP THE OTHER SEWER MAILS AND YET THERE'S GOING TO BE A CROSSWALK OR SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET. YEAH THERE'S A TEMPORARY SIDEWALK AND ARE NOW ON.IT'S A FUNNY DYNAMIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.WE'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS THEY'VE ALL PULLED THEIR MONEY TOGETHER TO PAY FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE ON THEIR OWN TIME.SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORS ARE SPENDING SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PIECE TO FUND THIS PROJECT SO. IT'S A BIG FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WE PASS OTHER NEIGHBORS TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR PAST FOR VARIOUS REASONS. WE'VE ACTUALLY ASKED OTHER NEIGHBORS TO CONTRIBUTE SMALL AMOUNTS TO PAY FOR THE INDIVIDUAL SERVICES SO INSTEAD OF THE EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AT WHAT COST TO BUILD THE ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE PAGE.THE TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS THE COST FOR

[62:00] THE STUFF AND I'M CERTAIN PEOPLE I PROJECT THAT I MEAN SO WHAT I DISLIKE IS TO GET AN ADULT IN THE DISCUSSION IN RIGHT.THERE'S CLEARLY TWO SIDES AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THIS TREE AND IT SEEMS VERY SILLY AND UNDERSTAND IT SEEMS. AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE ON POPLAR THE FIFTEENTH AND SEVENTEENTH.THERE ARE PEOPLE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS AND HE DIDN'T WENT POPULAR TO GO IN BUT IN THE NORTH BOULDER SAID COMMUNITY PLAN IS NO WE DON'T HAVE. THE FLAG BLACKS AND SO THAT STREET WAS REQUIRED TO GO IN THERE AND SO. AND ENDED WHEN RHETT WHETHER PEOPLE COULD DO IT OR NOT AND THERE WAS SOME KIND OF DEFERRED PAYMENT THE ROOF THERE WERE SITUATIONS FIXED FOR INDIVIDUALS.SO THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO GET THIS AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE A GREAT DISCUSSION.I DON'T HAVE

[63:00] PEOPLE HERE TO COME TO REFER TO FOR THOSE DISCUSSIONS FROM THE OWNERSHIP STANDPOINT SO I WOULD JUST REQUEST WE PURCHASE OFFER LITTLE BUT THEY ARE. JUST BRIEF READ OF A READER A FLEECE HIS CONCERNS BUT JUST TO RECEIVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY THAN I THINK THE CITY HAS A INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT. THAT STREET IS BUILT COMPLETELY WITH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO FIRST TIME. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CUT UP MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE YEARS SERVED TO WHATEVER EXTENT WE CAN USE OUR. AUTHORITY AND INFLUENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS WHEN FIRST FILLED IN AND BE SUPER HELPFUL AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING.THANK YOU SOO SO JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR WE'RE GOING TO PULL THIS FOR NOW AND WHAT'S A PROCESS TO GET RESOLVED IN THE SCHEDULE. BUT A SECOND TO SECOND READING ORDINANCE EU AND US YEARS HE WAS SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING AT A LATER MEETING.AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED TO DO OR DO WE HAVE DIRECTIONS TO THE ER JUST TO HASH THIS OUT IN AND YES I MEAN JUST WHAT I UNDERSTAND PROCESS.WELL NO EXCUSE ME. STEP FOUR WILL RECONVENE

[64:00] THE PARTIES AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY OF KIND OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER. AND I'M SORRY IMAGES WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED A HEARING LATER. EMMY SEEMS TO ME IF THERE'S GONNA BE LATE ONCE THE PAVEMENT AS IS IN THERE AND NOW YOU START CUTTING INTO IT AS AARON SAID. IT'S GOING TO BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THERE AND NOW WE'RE PUTTING WEAKNESSES IN THERE AND MAKING THE STREET. LESS THAN STABLE RATES THAT WILL GET WHAT WILL GET OUR SIGNAL FOR ME THAT'S WHAT YOU RE CONVENE PEOPLE AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS MR. ASHLEY ARE YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD. WHICH CAN RAISE TONIGHT WAS THE UM THERE'S ALSO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT FLAKE BUT. THERE'S ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE ALLIE AND I KNOW HABITAT IS BUILDING AN ALLEY IN BETWEEN BUYING AN ISLAND.

[65:12] SO I'M WONDERING WHERE THAT ALLIE IS SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT WHEN IT COMES. TO ALLIE GOES THROUGH THE HABITAT PARCEL IT STOPS WHERE THE PAL ISSUED COUNTY PARCEL IS AND THEN THERE IS A SIXTY FOOT CLAD EASEMENT ACROSS THE NEXT FOUR LOTS. AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT STATES THAT WHEN THE RM TWO LOTS DEVELOPED. THAN THE FIRST PERSON IN WOULD BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SO THERE'S THE ALLEY AND THEN THERE'S TWENTIETH STREET WHICH IS UM ARE THAT ARE AS WELL AS PLAN TO BE.IT IS NOW PLANNED TO SHOOT BUT YEAH IT IS PLANNED.EVENTUALLY THE EASEMENT WILL EXTEND THROUGH PUBLISHES PROPERTY ONCE OR IF THEY ANNEX.SO THE PLAN IS TO ACCEPT THAT ALLI OHL WITH HER THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU. OK SO WE THINK ARE DISCUSSING PULLING BOTH K AND L. ANYTHING ELSE I MOVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT AND SECOND ANYMORE DISCUSS

[66:00] THE NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ITEM THREE D SIGH WHAT'S YOUR. WHAT'S TO ALL THE GREAT LET'S TAKE YOU THREE D WHEN WE VOTE I WILL DO IRAQIS AS WELL FOR THREE DAYS WHICH ONE MAKES ME KIND OF OBSERVATION. ROBERT'S RULES DOES NOT REQUIRE. A UM A MEMBER OF THE BOARD TO RECUSE THEMSELVES IF THEY WERE NOT PRESENT FROM EATING THIS MINUTE YOU CAN STILL APPROVE THE MINUTES. THAN YOU CAN BECAUSE OF WHAT I'M SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE TO RECHARGE AFTER THAT SAVES A LOT OF WORK. SO THAT WHEN THAT SO IT CAN BE A SHOW OF HANDS BOTH OKAY WITH THE NOTED HUGHES ALSO IN AGES. WERE PASSING THE LIGHTING ORDINANCE AND AM VERY HAPPY WE ARE ONLY TWO TWENTY TWO YEARS AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THIS INCREDIBLE BOOK. WITH PEOPLE AT THE END OF NIGHT SEARCHING FOR NATURAL DARKNESS IN AN AGE OF ARTIFICIAL LIGHT AND THAT AT THE BOULDER BOOKSTORE AND CHECK IT OUT TO SEE ANOTHER FROM SECONDARY.THIS

[67:08] IS ABOUT THE ONE THING BUT AM STILL GOOD BOOK OR A ALTHOUGH THE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA IS UNANIMOUS. YOUR FIRST HEARING TONIGHT IS REGARDING THE AGREEMENTS WITH EXCEL ENERGY.THOUGH THE DAY THE REALLY YOUR HELP WE ARE READY.GREAT I'M HERE TO DISCUSS SOME AGREEMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED FOR THE REST IN KELSO APPROVED WITH

[68:00] THE NEGOTIATED WITH XL ENERGY SUITED TO PUT THIS IN SOME CONTEXT. THE CITY IS ATTEMPTING TO ACQUIRE THE ASSETS OF EXCEL ENERGY THAT YOU EITHER USE OR DISTRIBUTION OF ELECTRICITY IN THE CITY OF BOULDER.WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR TRANSFER OF ASSETS THE COLORADO UTILITIES COMMISSION IN SEPTEMBER OF TWO SEVEN TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN.THE COMMISSION UNCONDITIONALLY GRANTED THAT APPLICATION ALL BUT THE CONDITION BEING. THAT THE CITY DID THREE THINGS ONE MUST SUBMIT A WORLD. OF EYES LIST OF ASSETS OF THE ASSETS TO BE REQUIRE ACQUIRED SUBMIT. AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AN XL PROVIDE PERMANENT PROPERTY RIGHTS FOR XL FACILITIES THAT WILL EXIST IN THE INSIDE THE CITY AFTER SEPARATION OF THE TWO SYSTEMS. AND THREE AN AGREEMENT TO PAY THE COSTS OF XL FOR RESULTING FROM THE CITY'S MUNICIPAL IS A SIAN. SO WITH RESPECT WITH RESPECT TO THE REVISED LIST OF ASSETS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT LIST OF ASSETS ISN'T ALL THAT COMPLICATED THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN THE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

[69:01] EXCEL HAS BEEN IN THE CITY OF BOULDER FOR VERY LONG TIME. THEY HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT ALWAYS CLEARLY IDENTIFIED OR EVEN RECORDED. SO FOR EXAMPLE LINE GOES THROUGH SOMEPLACE THERE'S AN EASY AND IT'S NOT CLEAR IN A LOT OF CASES WHERE THE EASEMENT IS IN BEFORE THE DAYS OF GIS.IT'S UNCLEAR WORLD FACILITIES ARE THERE AS WE DISCOVERED THEY DON'T ALWAYS MATCH UP ON THE MAP SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH XL NOW FOR SEVERAL FOR ALMOST A YEAR. TRYING TO IDENTIFY THOSE WERE CLOSE AND WE WILL SUBMIT A REVISED LIST OF ASSETS ON OCTOBER TWENTY SIX SO. TWO AGREEMENTS IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S PLAN TO GO FORWARD AND THIS WAS A SIAN AS YOU RECALL AT THE NOVEMBER TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN BALLOT. FOR VOTERS APPROVED AN EXTENSION OF

[70:00] THE UTILITY OCCUPATION TAX WITH THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD BE A SUBSEQUENT VOTE WHEN THE VOTERS. THE VOTERS WERE FULLY APPRISED OF ALL THE COSTS OF MUNICIPAL IS A SIAN TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN SO BY THE TIME EIGHT TWENTY TWENTY.WE HOPE TO HAVE.WE INTEND TO HAVE THROUGH THESE AGREEMENTS THE FOLLOWING COSTS KNOWN FOR THE VOTERS THE COST FOR ACQUIRING THE ASSETS THE CONSTRUCTION COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION TO SEPARATE THE TWO SYSTEMS. BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF PATIENTS THE COST TO TRANSFER CUSTOMERS TO BOULDER POWER IN LIFE FROM XL. ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS DUE TO XL BETWEEN THE DETERMINATION OF THE ACQUISITION COST AND THE CUT OVER AND THE COST OF POWER AND THE PROJECTED STRANDED COSTS IF ANY.ALL THE COSTS WILL BE INCLUDED AN UPDATED MODELING AND THE VOTERS WILL THEN BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED CHOICE IN NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY. OR SO

[71:01] AND SO THE FIRST AGREEMENT IS THE PROPERTY RIGHTS AGREEMENT SO THE IDEA IS THAT. WHAT EXCEL TOLD THE COMMISSION WAS THAT WHEN IT'S SERVING CUSTOMERS THE CITY HAS AN INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THEIR USE OF THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY AND LANDS. ONCE ONCE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE AN INTEREST THEY WERE WORRIED THAT WOULD DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS TO THEM TO PREVENT THEM FROM CONTINUING THEIR SERVICE. SO WE THEY ORDERED US TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS NEGOTIATE A PERMANENT. AGREEMENT FOR PERMANENT NON EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT FOR ALL FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY THAT WILL SERVE OUT OF CITY CUSTOMERS AFTER SEPARATION. NOW THE CHARTER DOES NOT ALLOW THE CITY TO GIVE. PERMANENT EASEMENTS IN CITY RIGHT OF WAY SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THE VOTERS AS PART OF THE NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY ELECTION PACKAGE TWO. TO APPROVE A CHANGE IN THAT ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THESE PARTICULAR EASEMENTS SEW IT TO BE CLEAR NOTHING IN THIS AGREEMENT GRANTS ANY RIGHTS TO XL BEFORE NOVEMBER OF TWENTY TWENTY.THE EASEMENT

[72:06] ONLY KICK AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION AFTER VOTER APPROVAL SEPARATION. IMPORTANT THING THE BIG THING HERE IS NOW UNDER THE FRANCHISE AND SO THE RESIDUAL PRACTICE ON THAT FOR AFTER THE FRANCHISE IF THERE'S A LINE INDUSTRY. AND THE CITY SAYS WE NEED TO MOVE DEBT FOR A PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON XL HAS TO PAY THE COST OF THAT RELOCATION. UNDER THIS AGREEMENT AND AFTER SEPARATION THE CITY WOULD BEAR THAT COST.THAT'S A BIG CHANGE OF THIS AGREEMENT BUT NOT UNTIL THEN NOT UNTIL THAT NOTHING IN THIS FIX ANYTHING UNTIL AFTERWARDS WERE SEPARATED. AND WERE LATER PUT THIS ON YOUR TASTE AS CLARIFYING QUESTION YOU CAN WHATEVER JUST CLARIFYING QUESTION HIS TWO TERMS.SOO WE'RE ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT FOR THE FINAL IS TAKING EFFECT IS DEPENDENT ON THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE. AND STUDENT EXCELS OKAY WITH THAT THEY'RE LIKE THAT'S FINE LITTLE FUN FEEL TO IT LATER. THEY DON'T NEED THE RIGHTS

[73:00] UNTIL THE LIST OF SEPARATION AND CARLY HAVE RIGHTS TO BE IN RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THEY'RE SERVING THE CUSTOMERS. IN OTHER WORDS IT'S SUCH A CONTINGENT WRITE THIS IT WILL MATTER UNTIL AFTER THAT AND JUST BECAUSE I SHOULD ADD THAT EXCELS MANAGEMENT HAS APPROVED BOTH OF THESE AGREEMENTS. THAT ONLY WAITING FOR YOUR APPROVAL BEFORE WE SUBMIT THEM TO THE PC IT IS. TOO SOON TO ASK WHAT HAPPENS IF THE VOTERS TURNED DOWN THAT CHARTER AMENDMENT. IT WOULD BE PART OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE THAT VOTERS WILL MAKE A GO NO GO DECISION AND SO. TOO CAN WE DO A SINGLE SUBJECT THAT'S LIKE. A FUNDING SOURCE EASEMENTS WITH EXCEL. BUT THE COUNCIL IN TWENTY TWENTY WILL DECIDE WHAT THE BALLOT MEASURES WOULD BE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CONTINGENT. THAT NOTHING PASSES ON MOST EVERYTHING PASSES WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH THE SORT OF THINGS. ACTIONS HE MIGHT BREAK IT UP INTO SEPARATE SUBJECTS BUT THEN MAKE THEM CONTINUED HAVE TO RUN TO THE CONSTITUTION BUT YOU COULD SAY THAT THIS AZTECS NO EFFECT UNLESS THE OTHER MEASURE PASSES.SO TO PUT SOME CONTEXT ON THIS PUT SOME

[74:00] CONTEXT ON THIS.THIS IS THE CARD XL SYSTEM.LOTSA LINES LOTS OF PLACES IN THE CITY.I SHOULD SAY THAT THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL SCHEMATIC DIAGRAM.THOSE ARE NOT ACTUAL LINES THERE WERE THERE BUT THEY REPRESENT THEM THE DIFFERENT COLORS REPRESENT THE DIFFERENT FEEDERS THEY DID THEY MEAN NOTHING EXCEPT TO ENGINEERS. SO WHICH FOR COLORBLIND PERSON IS GREAT.THIS IS WHAT WE THINK XL SYSTEM WILL LOOK AT LIKE AFTER SEPARATION.NOW WE TALK ALOT ABOUT THE TAIL DESIGN WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS SO THIS AGAIN IS HIGH LEVEL OF PRELIMINARY. BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW XL LINES LEFT IN THE CITY AFTER SEPARATION AND THE ONES WHO SEE THE LONG ONES THAT RUN ACROSS A CITY. IT'S A PRINCIPLE OF ELECTRIC. ELECTRIC SUPPLY THAT YOU HAVE TO SUPPLY EVERY CUSTOMER FROM TWO SEPARATE SOURCES SO IN CASE ONE GOES OUT THERE'S

[75:00] ALWAYS A BACKUP. SO THOSE LINES ALLOW EXCEL TO SERVE CUSTOMERS OUTSIDE THE CITY FROM TWO DIFFERENT SUB STATIONS WHICH IS WHY THEY GO ALONG FOR A CITY. THE PRINCIPLE OF THE RELEVANT POINT HERE THOUGH IS YES WE'RE GIVING THE APARTMENT PROPERTY RIGHTS THE RIGHT OF WAY BUT IT'S NOT A LOT AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT EXCEL SYSTEM.MOST OF US PICTURE THAT FIRST MAP BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT AND LISA JEFF A QUESTION ON THIS MAP SOME OF THOSE SLAYINGS ARE IN DEGREE WHICH IS HIDDEN THE CITY.YES SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHEN. WHEN I MEAN THOSE WHO EXCEL SCIENTISTS IN THE CITY WILL CITY RESIDENTS GET MUNICIPAL. SERVICE SERVES SO NO THESE ARE THE LINES THAT HE BE THAT'LL BE USED TO SERVE OUT OF CITY CUSTOMERS AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS EXCELS PROPERTY RIGHTS. IN THE CITY FOR FACILITIES THAT WILL SERVE OUT OF CITY CUSTOMERS.SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED TO RUN LINES THROUGH THE CITY. TO SERVE SO JUST ASSUME FOR A SECOND THAT THERE'S A SUBSTATION DOWN SOUTH AND A COST AND ANOTHER

[76:00] SUBSTATION UP NORTH AND YOU WANT TO CONNECT THEM.THAT'S WHAT THAT LONG LYING ON THE EASTERN HALF.SO THESE LINES WILL NOT BE SERVING CITY CUSTOMERS AT ALL.OK OK ONLY BE SERVING OUT OF CITY CUSTOMERS AND IS SET TO DIFFERENT DISCUSSION BUT THERE WE HAVE LITTLE ENCLAVES.YES AND UM IF THEY EVENTUALLY ANNEXED PROBATION PINEDA KNOW YOU CAN ADJUST ON THE NEXT LIFE BECAUSE I GOT ANOTHER SLIDE.SO THESE ARE THE DETAILS THE AGREEMENT.SO TO BE CLEAR THEY WOULD HAVE BROAD RIGHTS WITHIN THESE EASEMENTS INCLUDING TRIMMING VEGETATION.THESE WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND THAT SORT OF A LEGAL CONCEPT THAT SAYS THAT THE PERSONAL EXCEL EXCEL GETS TAKEN OVER BY ABC CORP. AND LAND RIGHTS STAYS THERE DOESN'T MATTER WHO OWNS THAT OWNS IT.THE CITY WOULD RECORD THESE MEN AND APES OBTAIN TITLE INSURANCE TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE THAT SOMETHING WE FOUGHT OVER.WE DON'T THINK

[77:03] THESE THINGS ARE UNSURE OF ALL SO BUT WE TALK TO SOME INSURERS. ARE TITLE INSURERS SAY AWW DON'T THINK SO THEIR TITLE INSURERS SAY OF COURSE. SO WE JUST SAID TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE SO HE DOESN'T ALSO HAVE TO IS IF WE MAKE A REASONABLE EFFORT THIS XL AS PROMISED.EXCEL IS REQUIRED NOT INTERFERE WITH THE USE OF THE CITY STREETS PARKS OR OPEN SPACE THERE ARE CURRENTLY EASEMENTS IN PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. AND THEY WILL BE AMENDED TO PROVIDE THAT THE CITY WILL PAY THE COST OF ANY RELOCATION WILL BE SENT TO SOME MORE THIS. THERE IS A PROVISION HOWEVER THAT ANY. ANY LINE THAT GOES THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE SHOULD BE AVOIDED IF POSSIBLE. AND IF THERE'S A LINE THAT GOES NEAR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE IT SHOULD GO AT THE EDGE OR IN THE STREET AND NOT THROUGH THE CENTER TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.YES I DO IS USE TO INCLUDE AESTHETIC USE AS IN VIEW SHED SO CAN WE REQUIRE SOMETHING TO BE UNDERGROUND.

[78:08] IF IT INTERFERES WITH THE VIEWS OF PEOPLE ENJOYING OPEN SPACE SO THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THE WORK SHOULD PRIMARILY BE UNDERGROUND. AND ACCEPT SO SO HE SAYS SOMETHING LIKE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE IT GOES UNDERGROUND. REMEMBER WE'RE PAYING FOR THIS SO XL IS NOT AN OBJECT IF WE WANT TO PAY FOR SOMETHING TO GO UNDERGROUND.SO YES THE ANSWER IS IT DOESN'T SAY WE CAN DO IT FOR YOU BUT WE CAN DO IT FOR WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IF IT'S POSSIBLE.SO IT'S ACTUALLY BROADER THAN YOU SUGGEST IS AT THE LAST POINT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IF XL ABANDON SERVICE XL LOSES THE EASEMENT AND THAT'S. I THINK GETTING YOUR QUESTION LISA WE EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE AREAS THAT ARE SERVED BY XL WHEN THIS STARTS THAT ULTIMATELY ANNEX INTO THE CITY CAUSE. LOTS OF THINGS AN EXIT TO THE CITY EVERY YEAR ARE THINGS I'VE SAID SO.SO IF IF AN ENCLAVE DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO COME INTO THE CITY LATER. THAT THE CITY WOULD TAKE THAT OVER AND THEN ANY EASEMENT THAT FOR A LINE THAT SERVES THE XL WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK

[79:00] TO THE CITY THEY WOULD LOSE IT.SO ALSO WITH IF THEY STOPPED PROVIDING SERVICE ALTOGETHER IF FOR SOME REASON THE CITY DECIDES TO SERVE THOSE AREAS THAT THEY ALSO LOSE THE EASEMENTS YOU WANT. TO SELL COULD QUESTION HOW OFTEN TOM HAS HAPPENED THAT EASEMENTS HAVE BEEN MOVED. EASEMENTS MOVED WELL YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT GOING FORWARD AN XL HAS ALSO SEEN LINES MOVE TONIGHT'S MOVE SO IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.SO FOR EXAMPLE WHEN WE DID THE BROADWAY PROJECT AND WE DUG UP ALL OF BROADWAY.WE HAVE QUITE A LOT OF RELOCATION STERN THAT THAT PERIOD FROM XL. SO IT'S HARD TO IT'S NOT WORTH COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES RIGHT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO LOOK VERY DIFFERENT AND MAYBE IT WILL BE IN AS MANY PLACES SO.

[80:02] HOPEFULLY IT WILL HAPPEN VERY OFTEN AND WE WILL TRY TO PLAN SO THAT SOME PLACES WHERE THEY WILL HAVE TO BE MOVED BUT WE WILL HAVE TO PAY THAT COST. THINK YOU JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW YOU WROTE.IF EXCEL ABANDON SERVICE WHEN ENCLAVE COMES INTO THE CITY IS THAT CONSIDERING EXCEL ABANDONING SERVICE OR US GETTING SERVICE OR IS THAT. I CAN PUT UP THE LANGUAGE IF YOU LIKE BUT IT JUST MEANT. TO ME THAT YOU USE A TERM ABANDONED REASON AND THEN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF AN ENCLAVE CUMMINGS THE CITY WHICH DOESN'T FEEL LIKE ABANDONMENT IT'S A CHANGE. IN HOW THIS WAS A COVER THAT IN MY ROOM IN MY READING AND LANGUAGE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE SO MOVE ON TO THE COST AGREEMENT. THE UNDERLYING PRINCIPLE WAS THAT THE SUIT BECAUSE THE SEAS NATIONALIZATION SHOULD NOT BE PAID BY OTHER RATEPAYERS AROUND THE STATE.

[81:00] THIS WAS THE OCC AND SEVERAL OTHER ENTERTAINERS WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REPAIRS IN BOULDER IN PROTECTING THOSE REPAIRS INSISTED THAT THEY SHOULD BE A PRINCIPAL FOR THE CONDITIONS OF PAROLE. THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF THE CITY'S TRANSFER OF ASSETS.SO THIS IS A PRINCIPLE THAT WE WORKED UNDER FOR THIS SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS AGREEMENT ONLY PAYS EXCELS COSTS SO THAT THE PLANE HERE IS FOR.FOR IF THE VOTERS APPROVE THIS.WE WILL BUILD TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. AND XL WILL BUILD THE SYSTEM THAT IT WILL OWN OPERATE AFTER SEPARATION THE CITY WILL BUILD ITS PORTION OF THAT SAYS ITS PORTION OF THE SEPARATE SYSTEM WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.SO THIS AGREEMENT PAYS FOR EXCEL CONSTRUCTION ONLY THE CITY'S CONSTRUCTION WILL BE DONE ON THE CITY'S DOMINANT OF THE CITIES CAN DO SO.THE AGREEMENT HAD TO COVER THESE TOPICS OR NEGOTIATION OF THE AGREEMENTS THEMSELVES. FINAL ANALYSTS OF ASSETS TO

[82:00] BE TRANSFERRED PREPARING THE SCOPES OF WORK FOR DOTEL IS I'M PREPARING TO TELL HIS STORY. CAN CONDUCTING COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PROCESS CONSTRUCTION FOR SEPARATION SYSTEM COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH A CUT OVER ANY OTHER COSTS.I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN EACH STEP BECAUSE IT'LL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THESE PROCESSES IS WORKING. AND I SAY WORKING BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY MIDWAY THROUGH AND THROUGH PARTS OF THIS ALREADY. WE HAVE WE SIGN IN TO GET A SECOND TO ALLOW FOR WORK TO BE DONE WHILE WE WERE NEGOTIATING.SO THIS NEGOTIATION IN MY VIEW HAS NOT SLOWED THE PROCESS AT ALL.WE'RE STILL GOING FORWARD IN FACT THE SCOPES OF WORK ARE ALREADY PREPARED WE WERE GETTING PRETTY TO PREPARE THE DETAILED DESIGN IS QUITE A BIT ON. IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER IS THE COST AGREEMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE CITY TO REIMBURSE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH EXCESS LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THE CITY AT CITY'S EFFORTS.SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THEIR LEGAL FEES FOR CAN FOR HER FOR ANYTHING EXTRA FOR THE CHALLENGE

[83:00] THE CREATION INITIAL INITIAL UTILITY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS NOW.FOR YEARS SO THAT SUPPORT THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING PAYING LEGAL FEES BUT LEGAL FEES ASSOCIATED WITH NEGOTIATE AGREEMENTS NOT WITH. CHALLENGING THAT FIGHTING THIS SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAY THEM TO FIND US. SO WE DO AS I SAID WE SIGNED AN INTERIM COST AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWED. WORK PROCEDURE IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS THE CITY HAS BEEN BILLED AND PAID A TOTAL FOREIGNER SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FIFTY FOURTH OUT OF FIFTY FOUR DOLLARS AND FIFTY SIX CENTS UNDER THAT AGREEMENT.I SHOULD ADD THAT THIS AFTERNOON AT FOUR CLOCK I GOT A BILL FOR FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO THAT BUILT AND PAID IS NO LONGER CORRECT WE PAY FOR HIS SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND AND SOME ODD DOLLARS WE COULD BUILD ANOTHER HUNDRED AND FIVE THOUSAND UNDER THAT.THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE MONEY THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED IN MAY OF TWO THOUSAND AND SEVEN TO SEVENTEEN AND IT'S WITHIN OUR BUDGET TO DO ALL OF THIS. THE SCOPES OF WORK ARE COMPLETE OUT WHAT TO TACKLE STEP BACK EXPLAIN EXCELS PROCESS AND WHAT THAT MEANS.

[84:04] SO FOR THAT TO A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT PROJECT THEY DO DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING OUT FORGOT WHERE EVERYTHING DOESN'T. GOES AND HOW IT'S GOING TO GO BEFORE THEY DO DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS THEY DO SCOPES OF WORK TO PREPARE THOSE DETAILED DESIGN TRUCK. THE SCOPES OF WORK ARE COMPLETE THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT WHEN THEY COMPLETE THE SCOPES OF WORK TO SUBMIT THEM TO THE CITY FOR REVIEW APPROVAL.WE HAVE THIRTY DAYS TO DO THAT. AND THEN THEY GO ON TO THE DESERT BEACHES ON TRUCKS. THEY'VE GIVEN US COPIES OF THE SCOPES OF WORK. BUT NOT IN IRAQ AND THE FORMAT THAT WE WANT SO WE HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY STARTED OUR THIRTY DAY REVIEW PERIOD BUT WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM WHAT THAT DOES IT ONCE.ONCE WE SIGN OFF ON THE SCOPES OF WORK.THEY THEN HAVE THIRTY DAYS SIXTY DAYS SIXTY DAYS SIXTY DAYS TO GO OUT FOR BID FOR PRIVATE CONTRACTORS TO PREPARE THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS THIS.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT LESSON WENT BACK AND FORTH XL WANT TO DO A LOT OF THIS WORK IN

[85:00] HOUSE. AND WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. BECAUSE WE WE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY PROJECT COSTS WELL. SO AT THE VERY END THEY AGREED TO DO TO DO AT THE DETAIL DESIGN DRAWINGS ON THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS. WHO THEY WILL CAN SELECT THROUGH COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS AND THEY HAVE TO USE THEIR NORMAL PROCESS AND PROCEDURES.SO HAVE TO BID THIS IS IF THEY WERE BIDDING IT FOR THEMSELVES. SO SO THAT THE YES ANSWER QUESTION. I THOUGHT I CUT IN THERE SOMEWHERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS SO I. DIDN'T LIKE IT BUT I THOUGHT I COME IN THERE SOMEWHERE THAT FOR SOME PIECES OF WORK XL COULD CHOOSE TO HAVE TO RUN OUR PROCESS. BUT THEY COULD CHOOSE THEIR OWN DISCRETION TO DO THE WORK THEMSELVES.I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.OK SO HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THIS CAN YOU DESCRIBE IT THEY HAVE TO RUN THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR JUST A DUDE RFP. AND THEN ADD A FEW

[86:02] QUESTIONS WILL WE GET TO SEE THE BIDS COME IN YOU KNOW THE ANSWER THAT YET TO COME UP WITH MIKE I THINK THE ANSWER THAT SNOW.I KNOW THE ANSWERS WILL NOT SEE THE BIDS.SO THE POINT OF THIS IS THAT THIS IS THE WELL ONE WE WILL BUILD A BIT OF A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR DOING IT. THAT THE DESIGN DETAILS ON WORK DETAIL DESIGNS WILL BE USED TO BID FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK I THINK IT'S UNDER THE DEED TO TELL HIS AUNT JOY'S I DON'T THINK THEY RESERVE THAT THERE IS KATHY WANT TO CHECK. THAT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT IN THE IN THE COST CONSTRUCTION. OK WELL LET'S JUST COME BACK TO ONE DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT UNILATERALLY DECIDE TO DO THEMSELVES.OK WE'LL CHECK ON THAT.WELL I

[87:00] GUESS THE LEAD.JUST BECAUSE YOU PUT A RFP DOESN'T MEAN YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE.WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAVE SO AND YOU OFTEN USUALLY DO THE BEST QUALIFIED BIDDER.OK WE'LL TAKE A PIC THAT QUALIFIED PERSON THAT MEETS THIRD BELOW IS CALLED ENTITY THAT ALSO CHARGES A REASONABLE MAN BUT IF WE DON'T GET TO SEE THE BIDS. WHAT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY ACTUALLY THEN CHOOSE THAT THERE'S MORE THERE'S NOT MUCH CHEESE INTO THE RFP PROCESS NOW. SO THE LAST POINT IS WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SIGNING EXTENSIONS ALLOW FOR WORK ON THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS BEFORE FINAL PROOF THE COST AGREEMENT. IF COUNCIL APPROVES THESE AGREEMENTS THAT GO BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON OCTOBER TWENTY SIX AND HAS AN APPROVAL PROCESS WILL TALK ABOUT THE END. SO IT'LL BE AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO

[88:00] BEFORE. THESE THINGS ARE APPROVED WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS FOR THAT PERIOD SO. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS UNDER ANOTHER EXTENSION OF THE INTERIM COST AGREEMENT. ACQUISITION COSTS SO THE ACQUISITION COSTS ARE WHAT WE WILL DETERMINE THROUGH THE CONDEMNATION PROCESS THE FIRST STEP IN THE CONDEMNATION PROCESS IS AN APPRAISAL THE APPRAISAL WORK IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. AFTER AN APPRAISALWE ARE REQUIRED BY COLORADO LAW TO ENTER INTO GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL FOR CHOIR BEFORE FILING THE CASE.WE EXPECT TO CONDUCT TESTS TO BEGIN THE GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS IN NO.IN DECEMBERIF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL WE WILL CONDENSE THAT COMMENCED THE CONDEMNATION PROCESS IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN WITH THE HOPE OF COMPLETING THAT. BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF TWENTY TWENTY AS YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING HERE IS GEARED TOWARDS MAY TWENTY TWENTY.OUR

[89:04] GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS AVAILABLE FOR THE . BY MAY OF TWENTY TWENTY. TO ALLOW FOR INFORMED DISCUSSION BEFORE THE NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY BALLOT. SO IT ALSO GIVES US SOME SLIPPAGE TIME IN THERE BUT WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE GETTING THESE NUMBERS YOU'RE TRYING TO PROPEL THE BALLOT MEASURES. BOBBIN AND THE JUDGMENT OF THE LATE TOM THANKS FOR FOR ALL THAT SO UM. YOU THINK OF A NATION ACTS OF A CERTAIN EFFORT WILL BE DONE IN ABOUT TWELVE MONTHS OR SO WE'RE TOLD NINE NINE. THIS CUP IS NODDING HER HEAD YES MY MONTH SO I SAID TWELVE JUST IN CASE OKAY GOOD.UM BUT I'M ASSUMING THAT ONCE IN A COUPLE THINGS NUMBER ONE THAT THE PARTIES DON'T. AGREE IN A NUMBER AND SO AS WE GO TO TRIAL AND THERE'S. WHO WE HAVE A JUDGMENT IN THE SPRING OF TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN A SOUNDS LIKE THE I ALSO ASSUME THAT AT LEAST ONE PARTY WILL BE UNHAPPY WITH THE JUDGMENT. IS COME HARD TO IMAGINE A JUDGE COMING WITH A NUMBER THAT EVERYONE SAYS OH THAT'S

[90:00] DELIGHTFUL BECAUSE IT WAS HE WOULD HAVE NEGOTIATED A DEAL THE FIRST PLACE RIGHT.SO UM IT WOULD BE FURTHER ASSUME THAT ONE PARTY THE ROSTER XL WOULD PROBABLY APPEAL THAT I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION.OK ALONG WITH THAT APPEAL TYPICALLY TAKE.WELL YOU KNOW POP LONG TIME DAD TO THREE YEARS.YEAH SO I GUESS COMFORTABLY SO ONE CAN STAND SO IT GOES WELL FOR THE CITY AND WORSE OF IT IS TWO AND FOURTEEN MILLION DOLLAR CAP AN ACQUISITION COSTS.THE CPI ADJUSTED AND USE AS A SHORT AND SO THE NUMBER BELOW TO FOURTEEN X O APPEALS. MORE WE CAN GO TO THE VOTERS EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS ON APPEAL.SO I KIND OF NATION IT IS BEYOND MY AREA OF EXPERTISE BUT USUALLY YOU DON'T APPEAL.WELL THAT'S MORE LIKE WILCO A LEGAL ISSUE OR WILL GO LEGAL ISSUE THAN IT THAN THAT THE DETERMINATION OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR THE JURY. ON THE QUESTION THE JURY ON THE AMOUNT. GREAT DEFERENCE IS GIVEN TO THAT THE AMOUNTS PROBABLY FAIRLY SECURE. THE LAST ISSUE I HAVE

[91:01] UP THERE ON THE SCREEN IS THE ONE THAT'S CONCERNING THAT. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE REASON WHY I DON'T THINK THE GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING TO SUCCEED. IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT DISPUTE WITH XL OVER GOING CONCERN DAMAGES. THEY TAKE THE POSITION THAT THEY'RE ENTITLED TO A GOING CONCERN DAMAGES WHICH ARE THE LAST EXPECTED PROFITS FOR YOU FOR THE FOR THE FACILITIES THAT WERE TAKING THEIR OWN PRESIDENT COLORADO LAW.THERE'S A PROVISION IN LAW THAT GIVES THAT GIVES A RUN RULE ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE THOSE DAMAGES IF THEIR MUNICIPAL EYES BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT GIVES THEM TO AN INVESTOR OWNED UTILITY.SO OUR POSITION IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE WANTED TO DO THAT THEY COULD. THEY'RE TAKING THE POSITION THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE TRY TO NEGOTIATE A BUYOUT OPTION WITH XL.THEY CONCLUDED A NUMBER OF BETWEEN TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN THREE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR A GOING CONCERN DAMAGES.SO THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT WILL HAVE TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT

[92:00] ABOUT THE EVALUATION NUMBER. I WOULD BE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT OF COURSE WE WILL THE PEOPLE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AND THIS WILL BE PART OF THE POLITICAL PROCESS.I ASSUME THAT WHOEVER LOSES ONGOING CONCERN. WILL APPEAL AND THAT THAT APPEAL WILL TAKE TIME AND PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO GO FORWARD FOR. YOU NO GOOD THAT I GET GOING CONCERN IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST VARIABLE HERE AND THAT IS A LEGAL ISSUE WHICH. IS ONLY ONE PARTY THAT WOULD APPEAL SITE I DISCOVERED MY HEAD AROUND. HOW WE GO TO THE VOTERS IN TWENTY TWENTY BECAUSE EITHER THE CITY PREVAILS. IN XL APPEALS IN THE KNOW IT'S GOING TO KNOW A NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY FEELS GOOD TURNOUTS WOULD BE ASKING THE VOTERS. KIND OF CONTINGENT LEE GO NO GO BUT SUBJECT TO THE PEOPLE ARE GOING BADLY.CONVERSELY IF IT GOES BADLY FOR THE CITY AN XL PREVAILS ONGOING CONCERN THERE'S ENORMOUS NUMBER. ONE GUY BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IS GOING TO VOTERS GO NO GO BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE SIX HUNDRED MIND OUR JUDGMENT LIKE THAT SO I GUESS I'M. A LITTLE BIT BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY QUESTION I GUESS OF WHAT OTHER NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY IS REALISTIC.

[93:15] THAT'S A THAT'S A DECISION FOR COUNCIL AND THE ONES WE SAT BY THE CIA THE DIRECTOR SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT ONE.ONE THING WE WILL PROBABLY NOW ABOUT GOING CONCERN IS WILL BE ABLE TO FRAME UP THE DOWN SIDE RIGHT BECAUSE THERE'S KIND OF A STANDARD.DID YOU ASSIGN IT USUALLY MULTIPLE OF THE AGREED UPON COMMISSION VALUE AND SO IN DISCUSSING IT WITH THE VOTERS AMONG COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. WILL BE ABLE TO AT LEAST SAY WHAT THE DOWNSIDE NUMBER WOULD LIKELY BE IN THAT AGREEMENT THAT TIME WE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH EXCEL FOR A BUYOUT.DAISY ASKED FOR TWO TYPES OF GOING CONCERN.YOU

[94:00] KNOW MULTIPLE OF THE VALUATION OF ASSETS PLUS. TEN YEARS OF TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE REVENUE AND SO. IF YOU RECALL TAPE YOU SEE HERE AND THEY WERE CALLED OUT ON THAT LITTLE BIT BY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND SO I GUESS I COULD SEE A PATH FORWARD FOR TWENTY TWENTY.IF THERE WERE STILL GOING TO BE AN APPEAL WHERE WE COULD FRAME UP THE DOWN SIDE AND COMMUNICATED TO VOTERS AND YOU KNOW IT. WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO PUT SOME TERMS AND THERE THAT THE VOTERS WOULD APPROVE BUT IF THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL DOWNSIDE THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE FORWARD OR NOT.SO MY QUESTION IT BECOMES EVEN MORE OF A QUESTION AFTER GOING THROUGH. THIS PRESENTATION IN ENTERING SOME OF THOUGHTS QUESTIONS WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK AND I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING UM. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY OF WHY WE'RE GOING FOR NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY AND BY WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND

[95:00] NOT TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN IN LINE AT TWENTY TWENTY ONE. TO BE A DOWNSIDE TO GOING TO NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE JUST MORTAL I WRITE THAT FOR NOT READY AM SICK SO THE FINANCING IS KIND OF DEPENDENT ON GOING AND NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY. REMEMBER WHEN YOU PUT THE BALLOT MEASURE ON ITS FIVE YEAR TAX TO PAY FOR THREE YEARS OF WAR AS IF I RECALL CORRECTLY SO. WE PUSHED OUT TO TWENTY TWENTY ONE WE COULD HAVE AN UNFUNDED YEAR.I MEAN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT THAT'S JUST A TIME AS IT GETS COUNCIL'S DESIRE. I GUESS I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOME OPTIONS FOR TWENTY TWENTY ONE. BUT SO THAT THE CATHY CATHY CAN GET THE RESPONSE I THINK YOU. KATHY HADDOCK CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE JUST THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THESE AGREEMENTS ARE WRITTEN SO IF WE DECIDE TO DO TWENTY TWENTY ONE RATHER THAN TWENTY TWENTY.IT WON'T BE BECAUSE

[96:01] EXCEL DELAYED EXCELS DIDN'T HAVE TO PERFORM WHETHER NOTHING IN THESE AGREEMENTS REQUIRE CAPITAL TWENTY TWENTY THAT WILL BE UP TO COUNCIL AT THE TIME. IT'S FOR THREE OR EIGHT SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING IT TO DISCUSSION IF WE ARE SO THAT'S THAT THAT'S THE ACQUISITION COSTS. THE PRIOR TO GO NO GO PRIOR TO THAT THAT ELECTION DATE. EXCELS DOING THE SCHOOL TO WORK WHICH ARE COMPLETE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS BID SOLICITATION SELECTION AND ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN LEGAL FEES FOR NEGOTIATIONS SO THOSE ARE THE COSTS ARE ONGOING THAT WE'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW.THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS ARE NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT CONTRACTOR WILL BE SELECTED THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS THROUGH THE RFP WILL REQUIRE COMPLETION OF THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS BY OCTOBER FIRST TWENTY NINETEEN.SO THE IDEA IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE ABOUT SIX MONTHS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS FROM THE SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR TO. COMPLETE

[97:07] THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS. WHICH LEAVES ENOUGH TIME FROM OCTOBER FIRST WE NINETEENTH OF MAY. FIRST TWENTY TWENTY FOR XL TO CONDUCT A COMPETITIVE BIDDING PROCESS AND SELECT A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR TO DO THE ACTUAL SEPARATION WORK HE DOES IS IF THESE DEADLINES SAY AREN'T MET.WHAT'S THE RECOURSE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BREACH.WE WERE THERE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT ALLOWS THEM THE LANGUAGE SAYS THEY HAVE TO GIVE US THEIR BEST NUMBERS BY MAY FIRST TWENTY TWENTY. THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT DATE FOR US BUT WE WOULD BE LEFT WITH CONTRACT REMEDIES IF THEY DON'T DO IT.SO CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR SEPARATION WITHIN SIXTY DAYS TO COMPLETE THE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO CONDUCT A COMPETITIVE IS IN PROCESS. THE PROCESS BECAUSE I RECEIVED FINAL BIDS WITHIN SIX MONTHS AND AS I SAID TO PROVIDE THE ESTIMATED COST FOR CONSTRUCTION BY MAY ONE TWENTY TWENTY. AND SO THE WHOLE IDEA IS ALLOWED FOR A FULL COMMUNITY CONVERSATION BEFORE THE NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY BALLOT.SO THIS IS

[98:04] THE GO NO GO CHOICE WILL BE INFORMED BY THESE FACTORS THE COST TO ACQUIRE THE ASSETS EITHER THROUGH NEGOTIATION OR CONDEMNATION. THE COST TO SEPARATE THE COST CUT OVER THE PLAN FOR POWER SUPPLY THUS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR. IN WE'RE DONE A REQUEST FOR INDICATIVE PRICING TO GET SOME IDEA ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO COST TO SUPPLY POWER.YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD THAT IN. XL SELECT RESORTS PLAN THEY GOT FOR MORE. RENEWABLE BIDS THAN THEY EXPECTED. AT FOUR LOR COS THEY DID THERE A LOT OF BIDS THAT THEY LEFT ON THE TABLE SO WE SENT OUT A REQUEST FOR INDICATIVE PRICING TO SOME OF THOSE COMPANIES. WITH THE HOPE THAT THEY BE INTERESTED IN SUPPLYING A BOULDER MUNICIPAL UTILITY. PROJECT IS TRYING TO CROSS IF ANY STRATA COSTS DUE TO REFRESH YOU ALL WHO CAN FOR ANYBODY WANTS IS NOT ELECTRICITY. COSTS WERE A DEAL THAT THE FEDERAL ENERGY

[99:00] REGULATORY COMMISSION MADE SOME YEARS AGO THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION WANTED UTILITIES TO OPEN UP THE TRANSMISSION LINES FOR OPEN ACCESS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.THE UTILITY'S BALKED AT THIS SAYING THAT IF PEOPLE LEFT TO BE STUCK WITH GENERATION THAT THEY HAD THEY HAD BUILT IN ORDER TO SERVE THOSE CUSTOMERS. SO THE COMMISSION CREATED THE CONCEPT OF STRANDED COSTS COSTS OF THE COSTS OF GENERATION THAT WOULD BUILD IN ANTICIPATION OF SERVING A CUSTOMER WHO IS NOW LEAVING. SO PARTICULARLY IN HIS POSITION AS A SORT OF THING THAT'S AFFECTED BY STRANDED COSTS. SO THE IDEA IS IF EXCEL BUILT A GENERATION FACILITY TO SERVE THE BALL TO CUSS IN ANTICIPATION OF THE CUSTOMERS CAN NO LONGER SERVE THE CUSTOMERS AND THAT THAT ELECTRIC GENERATING FACILITY IS STRANDED.THE CITY HAS TO PAY A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME SO THEY CALL THAT THE ELBOW LENGTH OF TIME THAT IT BE REASONABLY ANTICIPATED CERTAIN THE CITY OF BOULDER AMOUNT OF MONEY EQUAL TO THEM.THE AMOUNT THAT

[100:04] THE INTEREST PAID TO EARN FROM SELLING ELECTRICITY THE CITY OF BOULDER SO I SAY IF ANY JOE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN STRAIGHT AND CUSSING GOING CONCERN BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S OVERLAP THERE. THAT THERE'S THAT GENERATED THE STRAIGHT AND COST GENERATED THE LAST DAY OF LECTURES OR WHATEVER POWER AND THE LOST FUTURE PROFITS. SHOULDN'T THERE BE LIKE A PREPARATION IN THERE OF SOME SORT.YES I MEAN THAT THE RELATIONSHIP IN MY MIND IS THAT THEY'RE NOT ENTITLED TO EITHER BUT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR BALLS.SO ME MY VIEW IS THAT SICK SO OUR VIEW IS THAT THE LOW GROWTH ACROSS THE WHOLE SYSTEM. MORE THAN JUSTIFIES MORE THAN TAKE THE FOUR PERCENT OF THE XL SERVICE THAT THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE FREED UP BY THE CITY LEAVING SO. THERE REALLY ISN'T A STRATA COSTS THE COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE THAT SORT OF AGREEMENT. THAT YES THEY ARE DOUBLE DIPPING

[101:00] THEIR DOUBLE DIPPING IN SEVERAL WAYS. DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY CAN ASK FOR MEN WE DON'T HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO TELL THE VOTERS THAT A NUMBER THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY. IF I COULD I JUST THREW THIS PIECE. TO FINISH MY SENTENCES BECAUSE. I'M HAVING TROUBLE SORT OF MAKING THIS FLOW ISLAND IF PEOPLE QUESTION. MY FINISHER SO I SAY IF ANY BECAUSE YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT THAT THERE'S TWO WAYS TO AVOID STRANDED COSTS ONE YOU DON'T USE THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM. SO STRAIGHT ACROSS A PROMISE ON THE DEPARTING CUSTOMER USING THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM FOR THE UTILITY THAT WAS THERE. SO WE CAN FIND A WAY TO GET ELECTRICITY WITHOUT USING EXCEL WIRES AND FOR THOSE OF TRANSMISSION WIRES.IF YOU DRIVE UP TO LONG'S GARDENS ON BROADWAY IS A BIG AND WIRE IN THE AIR.THAT'S THE TRANSMISSION WIRE AND SO TRANSMISSION IS WHAT TAKES ELECTRICITY FROM THE GENERATOR GENERATIONS SYSTEM TO A SUBSTATION WOULD STEP DOWN AND PUT IT ON TO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.IF FOR EXAMPLE THE CITY WAS ABLE TO FIGURE WHAT TO PRODUCE ALL

[102:00] THAT POWER WITHIN THE CITY. AT SOME TEARS ON THAT WOULD BE USING THE TRANSFER SYSTEM WOULD NOTE RESTAURANT ACROSS. THE OTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN AVOID STRANDED COSTS IS BY BALLOT BUYING POWER FROM THE UTILITY FROM. THE PARTY SO WE PROPOSED A PLAN YOU HAVE SEEN THE PAST WHERE WE WOULD GRADUALLY GREW GRADUALLY DEPORT STEP OFF OF XL SYSTEM. ON OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS AND SO TO TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE THE STRANDED COSTS OBLIGATION. AS WE EXAMINE THAT LATELY HOWEVER. THE DROP IN PRICES OF RENEWABLES. HAS MADE US QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PAY THE STRANDED COSTS. BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU PAY ON THE OPEN MARKET TODAY FOR NOBLE ENERGY WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY XL FOR ITS ENERGY WHICH IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE. PARTIALLY COLE IS SUBSTANTIAL AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LEARN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS THE UTILITIES IS THEIR PRIMARY COST IS POWER. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY. THE BIG BIG THING THAT THEY PAY FOR HIS POWER.IF YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR COSTS TO POWER EVERYTHING ELSE IS. HIS SECOND OR SO OUR STAR TEAM IS ANALYZING AND WILL BRING TO YOU AT SOME POINT. SOME

[103:04] NUMBERS ON ONCE WE GET A RESPONSE TO THE QUEST FOR GOOD PRICING. ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST WHAT WE PROJECT COSTS REFLECT FOR BUYING POWER ON THE OPEN MARKET AND WHETHER THAT JUSTIFIES PAYING THE STRANDED COSTS.SO THAT'S AN ANALYSIS THAT WILL DO SO AS I SIT STRANDED COSTS WILL INCLUDE IF ANY WE WILL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO DO AN UPDATED MODEL OF ALL OF THESE COSTS SO WE CAN PROJECT. THE DIFFERENT COSTS AND ULTIMATELY HOW THEY MIGHT REFLECT A COMPARISON OF RATES TO EXCEL SO I GOT THROUGH THAT BOB AND SOME ALSO QUESTION THAT WAS HELPFUL TO MY. QUESTION TO DELETE OR DESTROY THE COSTS OF ECONOMIC DECISION THAT WE'D RATHER PLACE A STRANDED COSTS FOR THE REASONS YOU STATED. LET'S ASSUME AGAIN THAT WE CAN'T REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH CLOSE TO WHAT THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE. UM WOULD WE THEN GO TO THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION ASKED THEM TO PICK THE NUMBER OF COST.MAYBE BUT NOT NECESSARILY SO WE DON'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO GO TO FOR XXL WOULD HAVE TO GO AND

[104:00] THEY. THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO PAY STRIKE ALSO PAID A LUMP SUM OR WE COULD HAVE TAKEN IT TO EDIT OR TRANSMISSION BUILT OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS. IS MORE TO PROCESS CATASTROPHE ARE AGAIN GETTING BACK TO NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY ELECTION WAS UM. WE'RE WE'RE IN THIS PROCESS BETWEEN NOW AND CALL THE SUMMER TWENTY ONE WE HAVE TO MAKE A GO NO GO DECISION ON THE BALLOT MEASURE A GO NO GO.THE QUESTION WHERE WOULD WE MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER WHAT IS GOING TO COST AND WHERE AFTER THAT IF WE SAY YES WITH THIS IN A COST DETERMINED. TO ENSURE THAT MIDNIGHT NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY SO IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THAT WE GOT A FORK BEFORE THE NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY. OKAY SO THERE'S A PROCESS AT FIRST WHERE WE MAKE A REQUEST FOR STRATA COST ESTIMATE.WE DID THAT IN TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN I THINK I GOT AN ESTIMATE THAT WE THOUGHT WAS PRETTY HIGH AND THEN WE COUNTERED WITH AN ESTIMATE.I THINK IT'S MORE LIKELY THIS WILL ALL BE DONE THROUGH THIS

[105:00] COUNCIL WILL HAVE DISCUSSIONS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS HOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH IT.WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT PROCESS WE HAVE MUCH BETTER IDEA BY SOMETIME NEXT YEAR.OK THANKS FOR COVER COSTS.SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED IS THAT YOU DON'T CUT OVER CUSTOMERS BY FLIPPING A SWITCH.IT'S A WEEKS LONG PROCESS BECAUSE. IT IS YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY SOMETIMES GO OUT THE STREETS AND MOVE THINGS AROUND SO. THEY'LL BE A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN SOME CUSTOMERS IN BOULDER WILL STILL BE SERVED BY EXCEL AND SOME. WILL BE SERVED BUT WILL DELIGHT IN POWER SO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE COSTS ARE GOING TO BE SOME COMPLICATED BILLING ARRANGEMENTS FOR A FEW WEEKS THAT. WILL HAVE TO JUST TAKE CARE OF THE SEQUENCING OF TRIPS FOR CUSTOMERS. AND THAT'S WHAT THE COSTS TO COVER COSTS SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE AGREEMENT. TRIP COS THIS IS THE LANGUAGE

[106:00] FROM PARAGRAPH ONE SIXTY OF THE SEPTEMBER FOURTEEN TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN DECISION FROM THE PUC.THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS ISSUES THAT WE HAD IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.SO THE BASIC CONCEPT IS GOING EVALUATION FOR THE ASSETS FOR EXCELLING IN SOME TIME IN TWENTY NINETEEN WE HOPE. THAT BETWEEN TWENTY NINETEEN AND WHENEVER WE HAVE CUT OVER THINGS WILL CHANGE INEVITABLY ELECTRIC SYSTEMS ARE DYNAMIC THEY THINGS FAIL AND HAVE TO BE REPLACED.THERE ARE STORMS THAT REQUIRE UPGRADES.THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF LITTLE CHANGES THAT OCCUR. SO WE HAD TO DECIDE HOW THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR THINGS THAT WERE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE CITY ACTUALLY OF VALUE WEIGHTED IN THE CONDEMNATION PROCESS.SO THOSE ARE THOSE ARE WHAT WE'RE CALLING TRUE UP COSTS. SO SIR CAPITAL CAPITAL COSTS IN EXCESS OF SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. SYSTEM WIDE

[107:02] IMPROVEMENTS NOT ADDRESSED IN CONDEMNATION THIS IS A REALLY STICKY ISSUE XL HAS GOTTEN APPROVAL TO IMPLEMENT SMART METERS SOMETHING CALLED AEGIS A GIS. WHICH IS A NINE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT THEY'RE DOING STATEWIDE AND THEIR POSITION IS THAT WE OWE SHARE OF THAT OUR POSITION IS NO AND UH SO THAT LANGUAGE NOT ADDRESSED IN CONDEMNATION.WE HOPE TO HAVE THE COMBINATION COURT RULE ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A WHAT THEY CALL IT DAMAGE TO THE REMAINDER. IN CONDEMNATION VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT IF WE ARE TAKING A PIECE OF LAND TO BUILD A HIGHWAY THROUGH IT. AND IT'S A FORM AND WE'RE LEAVING A LITTLE TINY PIECE THAT'S LEFT OF THE ROAD GOES THROUGH IT. THAT PIECE NOW IS NOT USABLE BY THE FORMER BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CROSS THE HIGHWAY THEY GET NOT ONLY THE VALUE OF THE LAND THAT WERE TAKING BUT THE DAMAGE TO THE REMAINDER. SO IN THIS BIGGER PICTURE. THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY DAMAGED. BY HAVING THIS SYSTEM THAT THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN.

[108:00] BUYING THINGS FOR THE CITY DO SO SO OUR POSITION IS THAT WHAT IS THIS COMPUTER SYSTEM AND YOU CAN SCALE THAT. AND THAT WE HAVE AGREED THE CURRENT CAR PLAN IS THAT GOLD WOULD BE LAST BECAUSE BOULDER IS YOU KNOW ALREADY HAVE SMART METERS.SO WE'RE GOING TO BE THE LAST IN THE SYSTEM TOO BUT HE SMILED AT THAT POLICE DID INDEED. SO BOULDER IS SUPPOSEDLY THE LAST WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WHERE WE CAN GO BACK TO THE COMMISSION MAKE IT CLEAR THAT BOULDER WILL BE LAST.BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO THIS ISSUE ABOUT THEIR CENTRALIZED COSTS THAT THEY WANT THE CITY TO SHARE AND WE HAVE NOT AGREE TO THAT. EXCEPT BECAUSE WE HOPE TO GET IT DONE AND THE NATION.SO THE OTHER THING IS DISTRIBUTION ASSETS OUT SUB STEPS TO STATIONS THE XL WILL NO LONGER USE WITH AN AGGREGATE VALUE OF TWENTY OR FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO THAT'S IF THINGS THAT ARE STRANDED THAT THEY CAN'T USE IT.THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TALK TO SMALL AMOUNTS BUT THAT SOMETHING BIG WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ROUTINE OPERATION MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SYSTEM SO THIS IS THE LINE THAT WE'RE DRAWING. BECAUSE

[109:01] THEY STILL HAVE A DUTY TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE THE SYSTEM STILL GETTING RACE TO DO THAT. FOR ALL THIS TIME SO THEY DON'T JUST GET TO CHARGE US FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT. IT'S REALLY FOR THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING THEY'RE GOING TO BENEFIT THE SYSTEM AFTER THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THROUGH THE CONDEMNATION SECURITY.SO THIS WAS WHAT THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR THE CITY JELLY DOESN'T SECURE ITS OBLIGATIONS THE CITY HAS A AAA BOND RATING WE PAY OUR BILLS TIMELY. WE DON'T MISS A PILL. XL GENERALLY GET PAID IN ADVANCE FOR EVERYTHING HARVESTS EVERYTHING THEY DO. AND SO WE HAVE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS WE JUST PAY FOR EVERYTHING UPFRONT THEY WERE LIKE EH THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS WITH TAXPAYERS' DOLLARS SO. IT WOULD BE A TREMENDOUS WASTE SO. WE THEY WANTED SECURITY THAT IS THEY WANT SOMETHING POSTED WHERE IF WE REFUSE TO PAY A BILL. THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND JUST TAKE IT FROM SOME OF THE POT OF MONEY SO I'M BACK AND FORTH ON THIS. THE PAPER FOR A

[110:01] LETTER OF CREDIT CREDIT IS A COMMERCIAL INSTRUMENT THAT IS POSTED BY A BANK THAT IS SECURE THAT THEY HAVE. IF THEY MEET CERTAIN CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS I CAN JUST DRAW FUNDS FROM. THE PROBLEM OF THE LETTER OF CREDIT IS THE COST BETWEEN ONE AND THREE PERCENT OF THE FACE VALUE DEPENDING ON YOUR CREDIT RATING SO THAT. IF WE PROJECT THE COST OF EXCELS CONSTRUCTION THESE ARE REALLY WILD GUESS IS BETWEEN TWENTY FIVE AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS BUT THOSE NUMBERS IN YOUR HEAD A FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS. LETTER OF CREDIT ONE PERCENT OF THAT IS FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THREE PERCENT IS ON ONE POINT FIVE MILLION.SO WE'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE THOUGHT OF GIVING THEM THAT KIND OF SECURITY THAT KIND OF COST.SO WE TALKED OR BANKERS AND THEY SAY WE GET TO A LINE OF CREDIT FOR VIRTUALLY NOTHING LIKE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.UM AND AND IT DOESN'T COST YOU ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S USED.WE DON'T PLAN FOR EVER TO BE USED WHENEVER NOT TO PAY OUR BILLS SO. WE WE PUSH FOR A LOT OF CREDIT AND THEY SAID WELL CAN YOU DO. AGREE

[111:01] WITH YOUR BANK TO GIVE US A LOT OF CREDIT THAT AS THIS IS EXACTLY THE SAME CONDITIONS AS THE LETTER OF CREDIT. AND WERE LIKE WE SAID WELL A BANK WOULD DO THAT FIVE YEARS IN ADVANCE. SO WE PUT IN ALL TENTATIVE AGREEMENT THAT'S WHERE WE CAME DOWN SO PRIOR DON'T KNOW GO W LETTER OF CREDIT FOR THAT TO SECURE ONE POINT SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. AND SO STILL EXPENSIVE BUT NOT OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE.AFTER GOING AU GO GO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES ONE IS A LETTER OF CREDIT FOR THE LESSER OF TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY PERCENT OF THE EXPECTED ANNUAL EXPENDITURE.NOW LET ME SORT OF EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT SO I ASSUME IT'S A FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT TAKES FOUR YEARS RIGHT TO HAVE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IF IT'S DIVIDED EQUALLY.NO CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TO SPREAD OUT EQUALLY TO SAY THE FIRST YEAR YOU SPEND TWENTY MILLION LAST YEAR YOU SPEND SIX. OR SO IN THE FIRST YEAR THE SECURITY WOULD BE A LETTER OF CREDIT OF TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS. TO THIRTY PERCENT OF TWENTY MILLION IS TWENTY SOMETHING MILLION

[112:00] DOLLARS SO THAT WOULD BE THE LESSER OF THOSE TWO IN THE LAST YEAR. WITH SIX POINT WE DON'T WANT TO GET TWELVE MILLION DOLLAR CREDIT TO SECURE. SIX MILLION DOLLARS SO WE GIVE THEM A HUNDRED AND THIRTY PERCENT AGO IN DOLLARS OR EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS SO WE DID IT BASICALLY STEPPED DOWN AS THE EXPENDITURE STEP DOWN. OR PREFERENCE IS A LINE OF CREDIT. WE THERE'S A PROVISION THAT SAYS IF WE CAN. SECURE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE BANK THAT BASICALLY IS THE SAME TERMS LOT OF CREDIT THE SAME ASSURANCES THEY WILL DO THE LINE OF CREDIT THEY CAN REJECT IT.EXCEPT THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT IT IS COMMERCIALLY REASONABLE LINE OF CREDIT IS A BIGGER NUMBER TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS.OF COURSE IF THEY DON'T CHARGE YOU BASED ON THE AMOUNTS THAT RUSSIA BASICALLY A NON USE FEE WHICH IS A MINOR FEE. THE CITY THE CITY HAS A GOOD BANKING RELATIONSHIPS IN THE AAA CREDIT RATING SO THIS IS NOT SOME IT'LL BE TO FORGET. OR PREFERENCE OF COURSE IS A LINE OF CREDIT FOR THIS BIG TICKET ITEM. FORCES CUT OVER AND CHEW UP IT WILL BE A LETTER OF CREDIT FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE EXPECTED COST BUT THOSE ARE MUCH SMALLER NUMBERS THAN. THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS US TO DO WHEN WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID THIS SALTY DOOR.YES FOR

[113:00] THE BIG ONE.HOW DOES I COULD DECIDE JUST WHAT DID THE BAGEL GIVE IT TO US WELL IN TERMS.YES IT'S THE SAME TERMS THEY HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT UNREASONABLY REJECTED OR. DISPUTES WITH THE CITIES CAN DISPUTE CLERICAL ERRORS AND THE SECOND SENTENCE IS A SENTENCE EVERY LAWYER LOVES AND NO ONE ELSE WILL UNDERSTAND.SO MAY READ IT TO YOU BECAUSE IT WAS IS THIS IS CRUCIAL.ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES WE HAD WAS LIMITING EXCELS ABILITY TO DO THINGS WE DID NOT WANT THEM TO DO AND SO. DURING THE HEARING DAVID'S TESTIFY THAT THEY WOULD NOT INTENTIONALLY RUN UP THE BILLS WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT. PUTTING THAT IN WRITING WAS A CHALLENGE AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO. CUT TO CAPTURE THAT THIS IS THE LANGUAGE WE CAME UP WITH ANY ACT OMISSION OF VALUE BY XL. TO XXL IN CONNECTION WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS INTENDED TO CAUSE HARM TO OR WAS IN RECKLESS

[114:00] DISREGARD OF OR WANTON INDIFFERENCE TO THE FINANCIAL INTERESTS OF BOULDER.SO THAT'S THE GROUND WHICH WEAKEN AND WEAKEN CONTEST ANYTHING THAT THEY DO SAM.HOW WILL THAT BE CONTESTED WILL BE BEFORE A MEDIATOR.WE HAVE A DISPUTE RESOLUTION PROCESS IN THE AGREEMENT.SO THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S THERE ARE LEVELS OF DISPUTE WE ULTIMATELY COULD GO TO COURT BUT FOR THE FIRST LEVEL IS THE STAFF TRIES TO WORK IT OUT. AND THEN IT GETS BUMPED UP TO THE DECISION MAKERS AT THE CITY AND THE XL AND THEN WE CAN GO TO COURT BUSINESS. IS IT COUNTED WE LEAVE THE MEDIATION PROVISION AND THE MEDIATION SO IT IS WE DECIDE NOT TO COMMISSIONERS COURT.OK AND THIS IS FOR HIM THE CHARGE IN ANY OF THESE THREE AGREEMENTS YET JUST THE PROPER GRAMMER IT DOESN'T MATTER.BUT THE OTHER TWO.SO

[115:07] YES THIS IS EFFECTIVELY WHAT IS IN EFFECT FOR ALL OF OUR BIG TICKET ITEMS BETWEEN US AND US. AND SO THE CONCEPT WAS THE CUTS WERE TRYING TO GET TO WAS THEY COULDN'T DO SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD NOT NORMALLY DO. THAT SO WE HAD THE CHALLENGE WITH THIS WAS WE TRY TO COME UP WITH A STANDARD. THAT THEY HAD TO MEET IN SO WE WE CAME UP WITH GOOD UTILITY PRACTICE WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY SAID. AND THEY SAID WELL SOMETIMES WE WANT TO EXCEED GOOD UTILITY PRACTICE AND WE DO SO THEY HAVE TO STAND IS AFTER USE THEIR NORMAL PRACTICES PROCEDURES. AND THIS IS THE CHECK ON THEM DOING SOMETHING I USE THE FACETIOUS EXAMPLE OF GOLD.POLLS SAY THEY DECIDED TO PUT IN GOLD UTILITY POLES.WE WILL KNOW YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO IT NOW WOULD BE RECKLESS DISREGARD OF OUR FINANCIAL INTERESTS. BUT IF THEY DECIDED TO GO WITH STEEL POLES AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD NORMALLY USE STEEL POLES THEY COULD PROBABLY PUT STEEL PULLS UP NEXT. DOES APPLY TO

[116:08] THE RFP PROCESS SO THE EARLIER DISCUSSION WAS. THE AED RFP PROCESS SEASON I ASSUME THAT FOR THE PARTS OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY WILL DO WHICH TO ME WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE THEIR SYSTEM. THAT THEY ARE GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS BUT WE WON'T GET TO SEE THE BIDS AND WE CAN LOOK TO DO THE WORKS THEMSELVES.THIS IN ALMOST EVERY CASE.SO WHAT WILL THE WAY BY WHICH YOU MIGHT DISCOVER THAT THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING. THE STANDARD WELL HE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS RIDICULOUS. I MEAN IF IF IF THE BID IF THEY CAME IN WITH THAT WE THOUGHT WAS TWICE WHAT WE WOULD. GET WHAT YOU GET OUT THE OPEN MARKET WE WOULD TRY TO CHALLENGE DONE TO THIS BUT WE DID THEIR POSITION WAS.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TREATED LIKE THEIR OWN PROJECT.IF THEY IF THEY'RE BUILDING THEIR OWN PROJECT AND THEIR NEGLIGENT THEY PAY FOR AND SO TRY TO PUT WE PUT CONSTRAINTS ON THIS WAS

[117:00] THE CONSTRAINT THAT WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE IT.IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING MAJOR AND RECKLESS DISREGARD IS A VERY HIGH STANDARD SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL IN THE COST OF AN INQUIRY. IN THIS PHASE WHERE THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED AND SEPARATING AND WE'RE CONSTRUCTING DUPLICATE FACILITIES.I'M ASSUMING THAT WE WILL HAVE A PRETTY GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT ACTUAL COSTS ARE BECAUSE WE'LL BE DOING SOME OF THE WORK OURSELVES AND SO WE GET REALLY HIGH. BIDS FROM AM FOR WORK THIS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WE CAN AT LEAST CATCH IT AND SEE IT WILL HAVE SOME IDEA SO WE'RE GOING TO FORBID OURSELVES. WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING OUR OWN DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS WILL BE DOING OUR OWN CONSTRUCTION BIDDING FOR OUR PART OF SEPARATION AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE SHOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA BECAUSE WE ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO COST US SO WE DO WITH WHERE WE ARE DOING A PARALLEL SYSTEM. SO WE WILL HAVE SOME BASIS FOR COMPARISON.THANK YOUTHEY'RE

[118:01] JUST ONE PROBLEM THAT HOW MUCH DOCUMENTATION DOING TO STAY GETTING OR ARE WE GOING TO SENTOSA BELLOW YEARS A BILL FOR TWO MILLION DOLLARS WAS FOR. A BUNCH OF STUFF OR IS IT CAN BE THAT WHAT LEVEL WOULD BE ITEMIZED SO THAT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE. WE HAVE STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET FOR THEIR BILLS THEY HAVE MET ONE YET. AND SO WE ARE WE ARE SEEING BILLS AND SO THE LEGAL BILLS. THAT WE GET OUR LEGAL BILLS SO WE SEE WHAT PEOPLE RECORD THEIR TIME FOR SO THOSE ARE ACTUALLY FAIRLY DETAILED IN WHAT WE'RE USE TO. THE BILLS THAT WE GET FOR THE IN HOUSE STUFF IS NUMBER OF HOURS NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND A TOTAL. AND WERE NOT HAPPY WITH THAT AND WE PUSH BACK AND WE'VE ASKED FOR BETTER THEIR THEIR. THEIR RESPONSES OR BILLING SYSTEM JUST DOESN'T WORK THERE LIKE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR REDOING OUR BILLING SYSTEM SO. THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A BETTER FORMAT A BILL THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE US FOR THE FINAL COST AGREEMENT. BUT IT'S NOT BEEN

[119:01] IT'S NOT BEEN GREAT IN THE INTERIM COSTA. WILL.WELL THAT WILL KNOW THE BILLS SEEM REASONABLE FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.WE DO A LOT OF CONTRACTION OURSELVES WITH SOY INTO QUESTION THE PUC IS THE OUTLINE DISAGREEMENT.WHY DON'T THEY HAVE A HAND IN MAKING SURE THAT. SITE ARE KEEPING UP THE REINS OF THE BARGAIN THEY SEEM NOT TO BE INTERESTED IN THAT THEY WERE PRETTY CLEAR THEY DON'T WANT US COMING BACK TO THEM. THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE THE MEDIATOR BETWEEN BOULDER AND XL.THEY REALLY PUT

[120:10] THEMSELVES IN THAT ROLE. FOR DEAD ON TO THE RECORDS WOULD JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT IN TERMS OF IF WE HAVE A DISPUTE BECAUSE I THINK MORE LIKE WELL. ALL OF THE SINK VEGAS ARE RISKS BUT DOESN'T LIKE IT ISN'T A YEAR TO GET TO THIS AGREEMENT. TO ME IT'S MORE LIKE IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO TAKE FOREVER DOES COST A BIT MORE NAVY OF YOU KNOW COULD BE A DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS.AND THERE'S NEVER THE SAYING THAT YOU CAN GO TO COURT OVER ITS JUST THE COMPOSITE TOTAL ARM AND A LOT OF OUR MONEY AND SO WHY CAN'T THE PC. BE A WATCHDOG THAT EVERYBODY SAY DON'T WANT TO BE.WE ASKED THEMYES YES WHICH RECENTLY BUT NO ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS THAT THEY WOULD OVERSEE THIS PROCESS THEY SAID THEY WANTED OUT.OK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

[121:04] BETWEEN OVERSEEING A PROCESS AND BEING A HEY IF THINGS ARE GOING WELL OR IF THINGS ARE TAKING A LOT OF THIS POST TOO.WE SHOULD HAVE A GOOD HERE'S TO MAKE EVERYBODY PLAY FAIR.BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO COURT.THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE REQUEST.NOT SURE IT IS TO THEM.WELL ANYHOW HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING AND YOU PROBABLY AREN'T IN YET.NO QUESTION THAT DID SOMETHING ELSE ANOTHER QUARTER OR SO I'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT THIS AGREEMENT ONLY COVERS ACQUISITION OF ASSETS OUTSIDE OF THE SUB STATIONS. THE COMMISSION THE COMMISSION'S GRANT OF CONDITIONAL APPROVAL ONLY WAS FOR ASSETS DISTRIBUTION ASSETS OUTSIDE THE SUB STATIONS.I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE AREAS INSIDE THE SUB

[122:00] STATIONS. I MENTION TRANSMISSION AND I'VE MENTION THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION THE FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY COMMISSION REGULATES TRANSMISSION IT'S AN INTERSTATE PROCESS SO. I TALKED ABOUT HOW TRANSMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO BE. OPEN AND WITHOUT PREJUDICE FOR THE FUNDAMENTALS OF ELECTRICAL TRANSMISSION THE UNITED STATES IS THAT YOU CANNOT DISCRIMINATE AMONG YOUR TRANSMISSION CUSTOMERS YOU HAVE TO TREAT EVERYONE FAIRLY.SO XL HAS TO OPERATE UNDER WHAT THEY CALL THEIR OPEN ACCESS TRANSMISSION TARIFF THAT IS A POST A TARIFF WITH THE FORK THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO SO.ONE OF THE THINGS IN UNDER THEIR OPEN ACCESS TRANSMISSION TARIFF IS SOMETHING CALLED A LOW IMPACT STUDY THAT IS SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO CONNECT TO THE TRANSMISSION. SYSTEM CAN REQUEST A LOW IMPACT STUDY AND YOU CONNECT TO A TRANSMISSION SYSTEM THROUGH A SUBSTATION.SO THERE ARE SIX SUB STATIONS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS TO SEE REQUIRE SOME SOMEWHAT WE WANT TO SHARE SO WE MADE A REQUEST FOR. A LOAD SYSTEM IMPACT

[123:02] STUDY TWO XL UNDER THEIR OPEN ACCESS TRANSMISSION TARIFF WE PAID THE DEPOSIT BACK IN APRIL.THEY PROVIDE A DRAFT REPORTS FOR ALL SIX SUBSTATION.THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THEY'VE AGREED WITH OUR PROPOSALS ON FOUR OF THE SIX SUB STATIONS. SO WE ARE THERE ON FOR THE THE OTHER TWO WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO GO BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT WORKING WITH THEM ON.WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE PLANS IF THEY DON'T AGREE THEY BASICALLY ARE QUESTIONS OF WHETHER WE CAN LOCATE TRANSFORMERS IN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE SUB STATIONS OR WHETHER WE HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING OUTSIDE.IT'S OUR POSITION THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM. IT'S THEIR POSITION IS THAT THEY NEED THAT ROOM FOR GROWTH EVEN. MORE TAKING SEVENTY OR EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE LOAD OFF OF THE SUBSTATION BIKE MUNICIPAL LAWS AND THEY STILL THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GROW.SO WE'RE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THAT WE HAVEN'T RESOLVED IT. WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM TO DISCUSS THE GRAD DRESS WHEN THE FINAL REPORT FOR ALL THREE IS DUE OCTOBER THIRD. THE DRAFT OR FINAL REPORT IS DUE OCTOBER THIRD.THE FINAL IS DUE OCTOBER THIRTIETH.SO

[124:07] ONCE WE FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SUB STATIONS WILL DO. DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS AND COME UP WITH ANOTHER AGREEMENT TO PAY FOR THE COSTS OF SEPARATING OUT AT THE SUB STATIONS. IF WE HAVE TO BUILD A SUBSTATION OR EXPAND A SUBSTATION OR THAT WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO GET YOU THE COST FOR THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS ONLY TWO OF THE SIX THAT ARE ADDITIONAL INCOME.THIS IS JUST CAN ASK AND IT HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER WE CAN SHARE IN OUR PRETTY MUCH THE CS. HOST THE TWO SUB STATION SO THE QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ROOM ENOUGH FOR US TO PUT TRANSFORMERS IN THERE. AND THOSE OTHER FOUR THEY HAVE AGREED WE CAN CO LOCATED WITH IN THE SEAMS.WE ARE ACQUIRING THEM OR CO LOCATING WITH AND YES THERE WAS THAT WAS WHAT THEY WANTED US TO EXPAND AND IT TURNS OUT THAT WE DON'T NEED TO EITHER ACQUIRING OR LOOK RIGHT.

[125:03] THE GOAL IS TO HAVE COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION AGAIN BY MAY OF TWENTY TWENTY.SO NEXT STEPS ARE STEEP YOU WANT THEM TO THE MICROPHONE GOOD AFTER THE EVENING THE STAFF KEPT THE ELECTRIC UTILITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.THERE IS ONE SUBSTATION THAT WERE PROPOSING BASICALLY BUILDING AN EXPANSION TO THE SUBSTATION RATHER THAN INSIDE ITS FOOTPRINT. IS THAT ONE OF THE TWO ARE ONE OF THE FOUR THAT'S ONE OF THE FOUR AGREE TO THAT. CASE SO IF COUNCIL APPROVES THESE THESE AGREEMENTS WILL FILE THEM WITH THE PC BY OCTOBER TWENTY SIX. PARTIES THE PRICE OF THIRTY DAYS TO SUBMIT COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS IF ANY PARTY REQUESTS A HEARING THAT WILL BE DONE BY ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE. THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.OKAY I'VE BEEN

[126:10] ASKING QUESTIONS AS WE GET IN NEED OF A HEARING TO ONE OF THE STATE TO THAT AND THEN COME BACK. WE ONLY HAVE TWO PEOPLE SAID J PATRICK MURPHY MANA BURN EACH PERSON GETS THREE MINUTES AND IF YOU CAN HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SAID BECAUSE. OF MY NAME IS PATRICK MURPHY TO LIVE IN BOULDER. BOULDER MUNI WHILE YOU'RE STRESSING ABOUT BUDGETS. FAILURES COMPLEX QUESTIONS AND UN RESOLVE OR COMPLEX QUESTIONS I'LL BE CHILLIN IN THE SHADE OF MY SOLAR PANELS THAT WENT UP IN TWENTY ELEVEN WITHOUT A MUNI. AND THANKS TO INCENTIVES IT COSTS ME NOTHING BUT A LEASE THAT IS LESS THAN MY ELECTRIC BILL.THE SOLAR EIGHT THE ELECTRIC BILL AND MY

[127:00] ELECTRIC CARBON FOOTPRINT.SO YOU MIGHT CONSIDER SOLAR INCENTIVES WOODEN FENDERS AND HER EX BROKER IN THE MUNI MATH. THEN CALCULATE THE TRUE COST TO THE MUNI MUNI PAST MUNI PRESENT AND MUNI FUTURE HOPEFULLY LIKE SCROOGE TO COME TO SEE THE TRUTH THAT YOU MISSED FOR SOME REASON. AND JUST LIKE SCROOGE YOU'LL CHANGE FOR THE BETTER FOR US ALL.I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MANAGE TO PUT THIS OFF BOBBLE HEADING YES OR NO ISN'T GETTING IT DONE. BE BRAVE AND TRY SOMETHING THAT COULD WORK AND NOT WASTE TIME MONEY OR INTEGRITY INTEGRITY IS NOT VANITY AND THE MUNI HIS SANITY BECAUSE IT HAS LOST INTEGRITY. BAD CASH FLOW FROM UNI PAST MUNI PRESENT AND FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO THE MUNI IT'S HARD TO BE LED BY YOU.WE COULD HAVE

[128:11] COLLABORATED INSTEAD OF LITIGATION SPENT THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AND NEXT SEVEN ON REAL CARBON REDUCTION. USING ALL THE CURRENT CARBON TAXES ON CARBON REDUCTION MIGHT BE A STEP BACK TO INTEGRITY AS WELL. WHEN IT COMES TO THE MUNI IT'S HARD TO BE LED BY YOU AND THE MUNI IS STILL READING THE GENERAL FUND.KIND OF LIKE WIMPY FROM POPEYE CARTOONS WITH THE NEVER KEPT PROMISE TO PAY IT BACK TUESDAY WHEN IT COMES TO THE MUNI IT IS HARD TO BE LED BY HUGH. SEPARATION COSTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED TO BE TEN MILLION ARE NOW AROUND TWO HUNDRED AND TEN MILLION. TAKING MILLIONS FROM THE GENERAL FUND WITH NO REAL CERTAINTY OF REPAYMENT FROM UNI PROFITS. THIRTY PERCENT INCREASE IN RATES AFTER EIGHTEEN MONTHS AS REVEALED

[129:00] BY A CASH FLOW ANALYSIS THAT HAD TO BE ACQUIRED BY LEGAL ACTION. OUTDATED AND INACCURATE ENGINEERING AND COST ANALYSIS AS A BASIS TO FORM A MUNI AND THE CURRENT COURT CASE BECAUSE OF THAT. TRYING TO IGNORE THE FACT THAT NEW RENEWABLE SECTOR RUSH CREEK WIND FARM WHICH INCREASED THE STRANDED COST HIM A FAILURE TO INCLUDE STRANDED COSTS IN RECENT COST ANALYSES. THE MUNI SCHEDULE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED LAST YEAR BUT MAY EXTEND TO TWENTY TWENTY NINE JUST TO PAY STRANDED COST. FAILURE TO INCLUDE GOING CONCERN COS IS PART OF CAMP CONDEMNATION AND THE LIST JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.THANK YOU PATRICK CAREY CHRISTINA.THAT EVENING COUNCIL ON.I AM NOT GOING TO

[130:01] TAKE A DECISION ON THE ACTUAL AS YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TO DECIDE BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BECAUSE. THE REASONS THAT I RECENTLY FLIPPED FROM BEING KIND OF GOING WITH THE PROCESS SEVEN YEARS AGO. TONIGHT WAS AS FUN AS TOM I'M SURE REMEMBERS WAS THE ATTORNEY'S FEES ISSUE THERE WAS A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE TOM DID SATAN TO THE CURRENT COUNCIL THAT TIME. THAT THE CITY COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT TELLS ATTORNEYS FEES.SO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE THIRTEEN OF ATTACHMENT BE ON THE ATTORNEY'S FEES THAT YOU THAT THE CITY MAY END UP PAYING ARE. FOR REGULATORY PROCEEDINGS SUPPLE DE SHALL REIMBURSE PS COVERS COSTS INCURRED IN CONNECTION WITH PUC PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING TO THIS AGREEMENT. ALSO COMMISSION REVIEW OF CONDITIONS COMPLIANCE. PUC APPROVAL AND ANY OTHER PUC PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE DECISION REQUIRED BY THE COMMISSION OR THAT THE PARTIES JOINTLY DETERMINE ARE NECESSARY. SO I WOULD

[131:06] IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE. CONDEMNATION AND ALL THE APPEALS SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT UNFORTUNATELY WHAT I FEARED WHAT I WROTE AN EDITORIAL IN THE DENVER POST ABOUT. IN TWENTY ELEVEN BEFORE THE ELECTION UNFORTUNATELY DID COME TRUE ON HAND.I JUST WANNA POINT OUT FORTY MILLION AND WE'VE HEARD FIFTY NINE AND IN THE AGREEMENT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT FORTY MILLION.THE COST FOR XL SYSTEM.I DO WONDER WHERE THAT MONEY IS REALLY GOING TO COME FROM MONEY AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY PAYS ITS BILLS. BUT REALLY THERE'S BEEN YOU KNOW A LOT OF YOU KNOW INTEREST ABOUT THIRTEEN OF THE CITY OF THE LIBRARY AND YOU KNOW I'M OUT OF AN UPSTART I LIVE IN PERTH.I'M AN XL CUSTOMER IN BOULDER AND WITH REASONABLE CONDUCT WHICH IS GOING TO BECOME AN ON LINE AND A FEW MONTHS ON BUT I. KNOW IT BUT NOT HAVING THAT INCLUDE THE SUB STATIONS SUB STATIONS CAN BE UPWARDS OF FIFTEEN TO TWENTY MILLIONS EACH AND THEY'RE THE TWO BIG ONES THAT ARE THE PROBLEM.SO IF WE'RE

[132:06] LOOKING AT EIGHTY MILLION IN FOR EXCELS SYSTEM BASICALLY TO WORK OUT THE SUB STATIONS. YOU KNOW THAT'S ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THE CITY ORIGINALLY ESTIMATED THE ENTIRE COST OF CONDEMNATION WOULD BE SO I AM JUST YOU KNOW I JUST WANT TO POINT THESE THINGS OUT. SERIOUSLY HOW DID THEY GET PAID FOR. AND THEN THERE IS THE THE ISSUE OF FIASCO WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO STOP. IF THE CITY DECIDES TO STOP. SEEM I STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT XL. GOT INTO BUT NOW CAN'T BACK OUT OF IF THE CITY DECIDES NOT TO MUNICIPAL AS WE CAN SO THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT. LAST THING I WALKED IN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CCA. CCA IS A VERY INTERESTING ISSUE AND AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO STUDY IT BECAUSE CCA CUSTOMERS DO HAVE TO PAY STRANDED COSTS AND IT'S THEIR SUBSTANTIAL.

[133:15] THE BANK'S FUTURE WHEN SIEGEL AND THEN LILY FRANKLIN. NC COLD MOUNTAIN HEIGHTS AND I'M. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WERE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF EXCEL AND WE'RE GOING TO. DO FABULOUS THINGS I THINK OF OUR COMMUNITY IS LIKE A GIANT SEMI CONDUCTOR. AND WHAT WITH OUR MICRO GRIDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP OR GET IT DO AUTOMATED AND AN. AUTOMATED SYSTEMS THAT WILL TRADE ENERGY BETWEEN OUR MICRO GRIDS AND THEN AND THEN ALSO BETWEEN DIFFERENT MICRO GRIDS AND I THINK TRANSMISSION IS ARCHAIC.THE TRANSMISSIONI'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF AND ROOF TOP. AND AND AND ROOFTOP ON MANY OF OUR STRUCTURES IN TOWN LARGER STRUCTURES AND

[134:00] THOSE THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE MICRO GRIDS AND AN XL IS JUST NOT SET UP.THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE SHARING ECONOMY OF UTILITIES.YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU BUY REFRIGERATOR YOU BY THE REFRIGERATOR YOU GO RENT IT. YOU KNOW AND UM AND I THINK WE'RE. FAR BEYOND THIS AND AND YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY THE AGILITY. OF THAT SOCIAL MOBILIZATION AND THE WAY. ENERGY AND INFORMATION CAN BE TRANSFERRED ALLOWS US TO DO FABULOUS THINGS WITH OUR UTILITY AND I'VE GOTTA SAY I REALLY LIKE TOM'S EXPLANATION I'M I REALLY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.I MEAN HE SAID FOR EXAMPLE THAT ARE CONTRACTORS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY KNOW KIND OF THE CUSTOMARY AND REASONABLE COST.I'M VERY AWARE OF THIS BECAUSE I HAD SOME MORE DONE ON MY PART. IT'S AN END THE GUY GAVE ME LIKE THAT THE PEOPLE'S HOURS AND HE WOULDN'T TELL ME WHAT HE CHARGED ME FOR THEM AND WHAT. I THINK THAT IN IN

[135:04] THE CITY WERE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GENERAL IDEA ABOUT BECAUSE WE'RE. EXPERTS IN CONTRACTING OUT WE DO THAT KIND OF WORK ALL THE TOPPINGS AND THEN AND I REALLY LIKE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PAY IT SELLS LEGAL COSTS.THAT'S FABULOUS THAT WAS LIKE GO GO TIME GET ONE AND THEN AND THE OTHER THING ON THE AGREEMENT AND THAT REALLY SECURES THINGS FOR US AND LET'S SEE. OH AND THEN WE CAN DO TIME OF USE LIKE FORT COLLINS IS. AND WE CAN REALLY WORK ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND I DON'T HAVE TO BE ALL FREEZING IN THE AM IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS ANYMORE BECAUSE. WE'LL WE HAVE OUR OWN OBJECTIVE TO LOWER OUR COST THERE AND THEN SPREAD IT OUT AND OUR COMMUNITY IN. AN EYE AND MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHICH IS A BIG DEAL TOO AND THIS IS A LONG TERM ISSUE. WHAT WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I'M PATRICKYOU KNOW IS NOT CONSIDERING THE LONG TERM.I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES IS TO GET THROUGH THIS.THIS

[136:06] IS GOING TO BE A WIN WIN. THANK YOU AND WILLIE FRANKLIN AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING ANY PREPARED REMARKS HE WASN'T REALLY PLANNING TO SPEAK BUT I JUST DECIDED THAT I HAD TO SAY SOMETHING ON. THANK YOU TOM FOR ALL THAT THAT TIME INTERESTING INFORMATION. I E HOW I WORK AT HOME OR ENERGY NOW WHICH DESIGNS AND MICRO GRIDS AND DISTRIBUTED ENERGY PROJECTS ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE DESIGNED SOFTWARE. TO MODEL THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS SO. I HAVE THE GOOD FORTUNE OF HAVING IT KIND OF A RINGSIDE SEAT ON ALL THE MOST INNOVATIVE ENERGY PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND ALL I CAN SAY IS I CAN'T I CAN'T COMMENT ON SOME OF THE SPECIFICS BUT PLEASE LET US NOT BE PENNY WISE AND POUND FOOLISH IN BOULDER.THERE ARE GOING TO BE

[137:04] CEMENT COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY BUT THE RATE OF INNOVATION AND THAT THE PLUMMETING COST OF RENEWABLE ENERGY AND SOLAR. THE RATE OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOFTWARE THAT MANAGES ALL THESE THINGS THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF EVERYTHING IS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO. TO BE LOSING OUR SHIRTS.WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT AHEAD OF THE GAME AND WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGES OF

[138:00] ADVANTAGE OF THESE INNOVATIONS SO AND DON'T LOSE COURAGE. THAT'S ALL I WANNA SAY THANK YOU HE REALLY THINK THAT'S IT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE FUNDED.OK WE WILL CLOSE A OR. TURN BACK TO COUNCIL AND ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FROM TOM IS CHRISTIAN ARE MADE OF IS TALKING ABOUT LITIGATION COSTS AND JUST LOOKING IN THE ATTACHMENT ABOUT THAT.CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT LITIGATION COSTS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR EXCEL IN THE SUPER THIS AGREEMENT.YES ONLY LITIGATION COSTS OF ALL THE OTHER FORCE IN THE AGREEMENT ARE SUING CONTRACTORS UNDER THE AGREEMENT. OR PC COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THINGS NASA CERTAINLY NECESSARY BY THE AGREEMENT THE AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES COSTS FOR CONDEMNATION THAT'S ON PAGE ONE EIGHTY FOUR OF THE PACK IN UNDER SUB PARAGRAPH II.IT MAKES A CLEAR THAT THE ONLY COUNTRY SKIS AGAIN ON THE CONDEMNATION IS WHAT THEY WOULD BE AND I DON'T NORMALLY IT WOULD BE UNTIL TWO NORMALLY UNDER

[139:00] CONDEMNATION.SO THE CONDEMNATIONKATHY CAN YOU EXPLAIN ATTORNEY'S FEES AND CONDEMNATION.SHE DOES IT BETTER THAN I.EACH PARTY NATION IS REQUIRED TO PAY THEIR OWN ATTORNEYS' FEES AND LAST THE LAST OFFER OF THAT KIND GIVING AGENT EIGHT THE LAST OFFER OF BOULDER IS. HOW WE SAY FRACTIONS FROM HIS MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY PERCENT. IF YOU WANT IS MORE THAN ANOTHER PIECE ON THE LAST OFFER SOME THANK YOU YES YES I DO IF A FOREIGNER FOR ALASKA.THIS PHASE OFFER IS INADEQUATE.WE COULDN'T BE CHARGED WITH PAYING THEIR TREES.SOON IT IS ONLY THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH NORMALLY THEY WOULD BE AWARDED ATTORNEY'S FEES UNDER CONDEMNATION THAT WOULD BE. THE ONLY TIME THEY CAN BURST INTO SCREAMS OF THE AGREEMENT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THAT WE ARE CHANGING THE RULES UNDER CONDEMNATION INCLUDING ATTORNEY'S FEES COULD BE ANY OTHER QUICK QUESTION.IT'S

[140:12] OKAY COMMENTSI GUESS AS ONE QUICK QUESTION AND THEN I'LL JUMP IN THE COMMENTS FROM THE MOTION LANGUAGE HERE SUGGESTS RE ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS PRESENTED US WITH THREE. NO TO THE INTERIM COST AGREEMENTS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED BY JANE THAT'S BEING THAT'S BEING OPERATE WHEN I QUEUE FOR APPROVAL MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT.OKAY VERY GOOD I MEAN I'M WILLING TO JUMP IN A COMMENT HERE.I THINK THAT STAFF HAS NOT BEEN A FANTASTIC JOB AT WORKING FOR SOMETHING I PERSONALLY KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO DO ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR SHOPPING. TO DO AND YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY NO FAULT OF EXCELS IN THE SENSE THAT THEY'D BEEN DOING BUSINESS A CERTAIN WAY FOR VERY LONG TIME IS A UNIQUE SITUATION. HOWEVER IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG TO NEGOTIATE THESE AGREEMENTS AND AGAIN HAVING BEEN THROUGH THIS AND EXPERIENCE SOME OF IT.I UNDERSTAND HOW BECKONS UP BEING BUT OAKLEY WHICH THESE AGREEMENTS ARE IN PLACE WE CAN MOVE MORE QUICKLY.

[141:12] HOPEFULLY BECAUSE OF CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS ON THE PART OF EXCEL TO MEET CERTAIN TIMELINES THEY WILL. AND SO I'M PRETTY HOPEFUL ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW BECAUSE GETTING THESE AGREEMENTS DONE IS A REAL HUGE MILESTONE AND THE PROCESS OF GETTING TO THE ACTUAL COSTS. AND WE HAVE A TOOL THAT I THINK WILL BE GREAT FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE INTERESTED TO LOOK AT THE TOWN COUNCIL AS WELL.IT'S ON THE BOULDER COLORADO DEPT OF ENERGY FUTURE SITE IS CALLED THE FINANCIAL FORECASTING TOOL. AND WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT AS IT LAYS OUT THE CASH FLOWS. COMING AHEAD AND LET YOU INPUT WHAT YOU THINK THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE GOING TO BE SO YOU CAN ADD ADDITIONAL FOR STRANDED COSTS ADDITIONAL FOR EVERYTHING. AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHEN IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE FOR BALL OR A TEN YEAR TIMEFRAME TO DO THIS.IT'S OF

[142:03] VALUE CALLED NET PRESENT VALUE AND TELLS YOU WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE SAVINGS. THAT YOU GOT FROM REDUCED RATES. OVER THE PAIN OFF THE START UP COSTS AND SO THAT'S THE METRIC THAT PEOPLE USE TO LOOK AT IS THIS A GOOD INVESTMENT OR NOT. AND THE TRUTH IS I BELIEVE WE HAVE HAD THEM OVER WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP ON STRANDED COSTS BECAUSE SPENDING CUTS MAY BE ZERO.AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP ONGOING CONCERN BECAUSE I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT I THINK THE COURT'S GOING TO DO FOR A GOING CONCERN. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BREAK THE MODEL. AND ITS CONTENTS TO LEAVE US WITH POSITIVE NET PRESENT VALUE BECAUSE THE THING THAT WE LOSE SIGHT OF THEM WE TALKED ABOUT THESE COSTS IS THAT WHAT WE'RE BUYING IS A REVENUE STREAM.AMONG OTHER THINGS AS WELL AS CONTROL OF OUR FUTURE CONTROL OF THE RATE OF UNDERGROUND IN. CONTROL OF BEING ABLE TO DO MICRO GRID IN WHICH IS YOU KNOW OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN FACT WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT EASY TO GET DONE WITH THE THAT MONOPOLY UTILITY.WE

[143:06] REALLY WANTED DURING THE DISCUSSIONS OF AN AGREEMENT NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT WITH EXCEL WE REALLY HOPED. TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF VISIBILITY INTO THE GRID MODERNIZATION PLAN. LIKE WHAT YOU PLANNING TO DO IN BOULDER AND WHEN AND HOW CAN WE BE PART OF IT AFTER WE CONTRIBUTE COMMENTS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST PART BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY KIND OF INPUT OR HIS ABILITY SO I THINK THIS IS GREAT AND IS GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD FOR BOULDER.I'M JUST RETURNING FROM SAN FRANCISCO WHY WAS THAT THE GLOBAL CLIMATE ACTION SUMMIT. AND YOU KNOW I WILL SAY THERE IS COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION CALIFORNIA AND NOT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT'S BEING ADJUDICATED.THERE WERE PEOPLE AND I TALKED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT WHO ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING ABOVE AND BEYOND CCA THEMSELVES.SO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE LOT OF PEOPLE WATCHING THIS AND I THINK TAKING THESE NEXT STEPS IS KIND OF A COMPACT WE MADE WITH THE VOTERS.SO THANKS TOM

[144:04] AND HER TEAM FOR PUTTING ON THIS TOGETHER.IS IT TO OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO COME. GET YOU GUYS ARE ALL LIKE HE IS AT THE HANDS THAT WERE SAVED WERE SAVING UP FOR LATER I CAME. UP TO THREE THINGS FIRST YOU FIND IT A LITTLE BIT POETIC THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION THIS WEEK WHEN TUESDAY THE COMPLETION OF THE RUSH CREEK. TURBINE PROJECT WAS ANNOUNCED AND WHICH WILL PROVIDE. WIND ENERGY FOR THREE THOUSAND FAMILIES IN INVESTED A BILLION DOLLARS IN THAT AND THEREFORE COME ON THAT SO I THINK UM. PERSONAL VIEW AND YOU'LL KNOW THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF THE MUNI THE REASONS FOR GOING FOR WITH THIS THAT MAY. HAVE SEEMED LIKE GOOD IDEAS BACK IN TWO THOUSAND AND TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN I THINK ARE QUICKLY ERODING.I THINK

[145:00] THE GAP BETWEEN NIRVANA AND REALITY IS IS NARROWING HERE AND WILL CONTINUE THERE.BUT WITH THAT SAID UM I I DO COMMEND TOM AND XL AND IN CASSIE IN THE WHOLE TEAM FOR THE OTHER WAS A REALLY SOLID AGREEMENT.I READ THROUGH THEM ALL WITH THE LAWYERS I BOTH FROM SAMPLING OF DRAFTING I COULDN'T FIND ANY MISTAKES THE BUT I ALSO THINK UM THE AGREEMENTS ARE FAIR AND BALANCED.THERE IS NO DOUBT THE HORSE TRADING. AND I'M SURE THAT THE CITY STAFF OF LIKE HAVE SOME THINGS IN THERE FOR THAT AND GET I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME THINGS LIKE SODA LIKED. PUTTING IT IN THERE BUT IT DOES STRIKE ME AS A BALANCED AGREEMENT. MIGHT MIGHT MIGHT VIEW EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT A FAN OF THE UNI AND EVEN THOUGH I BELIEVE THAT ULTIMATELY MAY NOT PROCEED. FOR VARIOUS REASONS I THINK WE NEED TO GET ONTO THE MAIN ATTRACTION HERE. IN THE MAIN ATTRACTION OF COURSE IS A CONDEMNATION ACTION THAT'S GOING TO TELL US WHETHER THIS IS FINANCIALLY VIABLE AS SAM SAID.NUMBERS MATTER AND

[146:00] NUMBERS MAY WORK OUT JUST FINE IN THE VOTERS MAY SAY LET'S GO FOR TWO OR THE NUMBERS THAT WERE FINE. AND WHATEVER TO FIND OUT UNTIL WE GET TO THE CONDEMNATION ACTION AND HAVE A JUDGE TELL US WHAT THOSE NUMBERS AREN'T SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THESE AGREEMENTS.WELL DONE AND QUITE FRANKLY WE NEED TO EXECUTE THEM TO MOVE FORWARD TO NEXT UP AND FIND OUT WHAT WHAT THIS REALLY ALL ABOUT. TO STEP IN TO SAY TOM CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN GIVING HIM LOTS OF GRIEF ABOUT HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN TAKING MANY ARMS TO REALLY GET CAC AND I AM.I AM CONVINCED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB BECAUSE OF PEOPLE THAT MUNI ANTI MUNI SAID HE DID A GOOD JOB AND ALL SELF. COULD ASSIST AFTER

[147:02] THAT I AM I REMAIN CONCERNED OF COURSE I THINK IS AS WE LAID OUT OUR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS JUST THAT THIS IS A LOPSIDED. AGREEMENT WHERE WE HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE MOST RISK AND SO OF COURSE THAT'S CONCERNING.BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH BOB THAT IT'S A IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD.ABSOLUTELY MOM I GUESS THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS JUST THE PUC.I THINK IT STILL HAS A ROLE HERE IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT MOM EVERYBODY HOLD UP THEIR END OF THE BARGAIN AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD. WE SUBMIT THIS TO THE PUC TO AT LEAST THIS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION THAT SINCE. THEY GAVE US WHAT WE HAVE FORGED THAT THEY MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS DOWN THE ROAD ON AND DON'T DEVIATE AND I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT AGREE THAT THEY HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT.TELL

[148:04] MOM AND I THINK WE SHOULD URGE THEM TO KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS THAT I GUESS I AM EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD.I MEAN THE PART WHERE WE'RE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE.I GUESS TO ME THAT IT'S VERY VERY CLEAR AND THERE'S SO MUCH HAPPENING IN THE ENERGY FIELD AND THERE'S AN IMPERATIVE TO MOVE QUICKLY ON.I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CLIMATE SUMMITS IN ADVANCE AND THAT I HAVE BEEN TO LATELY AND THE EXCITEMENT POWELL THE TABLE.PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO US TO LEAD.WE DON'T ALLOW TO COOL THINGS.IN ADDITION TO THIS BUT IT'S REALLY HARD AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WITH THIS AS IT IS THE VOTERS HAVE DIRECTED US TO UNTIL THIS IS THE NEXT STEP AND NO. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK I AGREE I HOPE THE NEXT STEPS QUICKER. IN THE THINGS I AGREED THAT THE VOTERS MADE CLEAR THEIR. INTENTIONS IN THE LAST ELECTION ETHICS AND

[149:00] THE UTILITY OCCUPATION TAX AND THIS IS THE NEXT STEP LADDER HERE LOOK FORWARD TO PROVING TONIGHT MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN GETTING THESE REAL NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THAT IT'LL BE VERY FREAKY TO SEE.I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SCHEDULE I DO VERY MUCH OF THAT WE CAN GET THIS TWENTY TWENTY. DID EVERY YEAR DELAY IS ONE MORE YEAR THAT WE DON'T HAVE OR UTILITY ROOM FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY COOL SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN. REALLY APPRECIATE BEEN WORKING ON GETTING THIS TO THEM A TWENTY TWENTY THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TODAY AND GET THAT DONE. AND THEN JUST HEARD HER GI DINER WORKING HARD ON THIS BUT HOWEVER MUCH DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU CAN GET FROM EXCEL. WITH FORD ON THE BILL SO THAT WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT. UNDERSTAND THE BAR WOULD BE PRETTY HIGH FOR THIS CHALLENGE SOMETHING BUT STILL THE MORE INFORMATION WE HAVE MORE ABILITY WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COSTS ARE REASONABLE. TOO ANGRY WITH ME

[150:00] AND MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES AND AM JUST TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND CAN MAKE A MOTION TO OUT RACE THE CITY MANAGER. TO ENTER INTO TWO AGREEMENTS IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM AS IN ATTACHMENT SAY IN THE SECOND. AND OTHERS COME IN I WISH THIS HAD DONE FASTER BUT I I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW UM. I I IT'S NOT ON OUR STAFF SAY THEY WOULD SAY THAT THE LAKE DREDGING HAS OCCURRED AND BEEN IN THIS DANCE FOR LONG ENOUGH. I DO ALSO THINK THE PUC HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK IN AND MAKE SURE EACH PARTY IS MOVING QUICKLY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.I DO HAVE A LITTLE CONSTERNATION MAYBE WITH THE TWENTY TWENTY. UM TIMELINE A I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME FINANCES IN TERMS OF.

[151:03] WOULD IT BE BETTER TO DO IT IN TWENTY TWENTY OR TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND WE SHOULD HAVE A BACKUP ANYWAY IN CASE WE CAN'T MAKE IT TO TWENTY TWENTY SO. AND I YOU KNOW WE DO NEED THE PUC TO KIND OF OVERSEE THIS AND TO MAKE SURE EACH PARTY IS PLAYING FAIRLY AND MOVING FORWARD. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE PUC WOULD STEP IN IF SOMEBODY IS NOT DOING HIS HER PART TO KEEP THIS MOVING.I KNOW EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GO ALOT FASTER TIME AND PEOPLE AT THEM WAITING AND THE EARTH THIS WAITING AND SO WE NEED TO GET THIS BUGGY ON THE ROAD.I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING DONE WITH THIS HIS FACE IN GETTING TO THE NEXT EIGHT AND ANYONE ELSE.K

[152:02] CHAUHAN FOR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. VISION AND SUZANNE CAN I THANK KATHY HADDOCK AND FK ELECTION. STEVE KAT MAK THE FORESTS WITH A NEGOTIATING TEAM SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME TOGETHER BUT. KATHY HAD THE LABORING OAR IN THE COST OR IMMINENT DEAD AT THE PROPERTY AGREEMENT AND THEY TURN OFF AUTO WORKERS ARE A LOT OF CREDIT. TO WILL AND SHULER AND THINK YOU AND THEY KNOW YOU'RE DRAGGING YOUR FEET UP THE YES INDEED THANK YOU STEPH FOR A LONG HOUR SHE ALSO RECOGNIZE HOW MANY HOURS. TRADING AND MANY MORE THAN COMPENSATED FOR YOUR NEXT ITEM.

[153:06] HIS NEXT STEPS FIRST THE BOULDER CREEK FLOOD MITIGATION THE PRESENT IS THE VISION BUT TWO YEARS AGO. HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE SO TODAY WE HAVE THE COMMON PRISONERS ON THIS ITEM. MOLLY SCARBOROUGH AND HER POWER FOR ME TO GET THE YOU HEAR ME NOW THE KNOW IT'S UNFAIR NOT HEARING ME TRYING TO CHEER. CAN YOU HEAR ME.HOPEFULLY THE REST OF THE TOP OF THE FACE OFTHE OK HOW ABOUT

[154:03] THE GREAT. AND THE EVENING HE HAD TONIGHT IS THE STAFF CHECK AND FOLLOW UP TO THE AUGUST TWENTY FIRST COUNCIL DECISION ON A SOUTH BOULDER CREEK FLOOD MITIGATION CONCEPTS. AS AUNT TONYA SAID MY NAME'S MALAYS FOR BREMEN SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH WORKS SOME JOINED BY CURRENT POWER THE ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER. AND AN AUDIENCE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CITY STAFF CONSULTANTS AS WELL AS REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE RIVER DRAINAGE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT. THE WATER RESOURCES ADVISORY BOARD AND THE OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IF WE WILL KEEP THIS PRESENTATION BRIEFLY INTO STATE THE STAFF PRESENTATION WILL BE ABOUT TWENTY MINUTES OR LESS.FIRST OUR VIEW THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE FOR COUNCIL FEEDBACKS NINETY THEN ALL DISCUSSED UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIRECTION PROVIDED BY COUNCIL ON AUGUST TWENTY FIRST.SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIRECTION PROVIDED ONE OF THE REASONS STAFF RECOMMENDED THIS SECOND. I'M BLESSED KNOWING THAT THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROJECT ARE A LOT

[155:00] OF MOVING PARTS TRADE OFFS AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN LINE WITH COUNCILS INTENDED DIRECTION AND SAY WE LOOK FORWARD TO CLARIFYING THAT NIGHT. WE DO HOWEVER RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE THE FULL STAFF PRESENTATION BEFORE BREAKING FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.KERR WILL REVIEW THREE HIGH LEVEL APPROACHES TO MODIFYING THE VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT THAT YOU. APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING. AND I THINK IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO SEE AND USE THESE CONCEPTUAL MODIFICATION OPTIONS IS THE WAY OF TALKING THROUGH AND CLARIFYING COUNCIL INTENDED DIRECTION. AND DISCUSSING HOW WE CAN MODIFY THE CONCEPT TO BEST ALIGN WITH YOUR INTESTINES. FALLING CRUDE SUMMARY OF THE PURCHASE OF BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT NEXT STEPS. AT SALES AND RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FUTURE SEES SOUTH IN ACCESSION PROCESS WHICH WILL BE FOCUSING ON THE OCTOBER NINE TO A STUDY SESSION. STAFF A

[156:01] COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO GUIDE THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. THE FIRST THING SHOULD STAFF AND BOARD INTO PRELIMINARY DESIGN WITH ANY OF THE CONCEPT MODIFICATION OPTIONS FOR SANTA TONIGHT OR WITH THE ORIGINAL VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED YOUR CONCEPT WITHOUT MODIFICATION.DO YOU FEEL LIKE ONE OF THESE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH YOUR INTENDED DIRECTION OF THE TWENTY FIRST AND IF NOT WHAT YOUR DIRECTION ON NEXT. AND SECOND DO YOU CONCUR WITH OUR PLAN FOR THE BOARD AND PROCESS WITH A FLOOD MITIGATION PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROCESS WHICH ARE DESCRIBED AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. IN ADDITION TO THESE COUNCIL MAY HAVE ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS NAME. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE COUNCIL MOTION AS STATED BY COUNCILMEMBER WEAVER AND PASSED ON A VOTE OF SIX THREE ON AUGUST TWENTY FIRST. THE MISSION WAS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE NEXT STEPS THAT NEED IS FINALLY IN THEIR NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD CONCEPT WITH TWO CAVEATS. ONE THAT WE

[157:01] CONSIDER HOW TO MINIMIZE FLOOD DETENTION ON THE PUBLICLY INDUCED DESIGNATION AND CHEW THAT WE LOOK AT UPSTREAM DETENTION OPTIONS AS PART OF HELPING TO DO.IN ADDITION FOLLOWING THE MISSION STAFF PASS FOREIGN COUNSEL PROVIDED ADDITIONAL DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS FOR ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS SHOWN ON SCREEN. IN REGARD TO UPSTREAM STORAGE COUNCIL INDICATED THAT WE SHOULD AVOID A BERM OR RUN DOWN STRUCTURE TO CHANNEL WATER INTO THE STREAM AREAS TO AVOID IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE HABITATS. IN THE AREA AND TO AVOID HIM. AND SORRY TO NOT PLACE ANY PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON US AND PEOPLE AND THE COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED US TO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR FLOW CONTROL STRUCTURE AT US THIRTY SIX BRIDGE. AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE DESIGN COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE AN INDICATION ON US AND PEAT LAND. BUT WOULD NOT ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR GROUNDWATER COMMAND SYSTEM WITH THE FLOOD WALL HIS THIRTY SIX. WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO EVALUATE WHETHER OVER SIZING THE OUTLET PIPE COULD HELP MAKE THE CONCEPT MORE ADAPTABLE FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.

[158:00] IN COUNCIL STATED THE INTENT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SEE YOU IN TO MOVE FORWARD AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE. AS I MENTIONED UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDINGS OF THIS COUNCIL DIRECTION AND TONIGHT YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION IS NEEDED. TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL IN ALIGNMENT GOING FOR. I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FOUR CURVE AGAINST A SUMMARY OF THE DIFFERENT APPROACHES FOR MODIFYING THE CONCEPT. THAT VERY LIMITED ANALYSIS HAS GONE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE THE PROJECT TEAM HAD A SHORT TIME PERIOD TO TURN THESE AROUND. AND ALTHOUGH THE CARTOON DRAWINGS YOU'LL SOON SEE OUR LOOKS SIMILAR TO THAT AND THAT WE PRESENTED T PREVIOUSLY THEY HAVE NOT UNDERGONE THE SAME LEVEL OF AN OFF. THE POINT OF SHOWING THESE TO YOU TONIGHT.EVEN WITH LIMITED ANALYSIS IS TO GET A SENSE FOR ME AS TO WHETHER AND WHICH APPROACH IF ANY MAY BE WORTH PURSUING FURTHER. IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE FLOOD DETENTION ON LAND IN SYRIA THEY'RE BASICALLY THREE WAYS TO. YOU EITHER A

[159:03] EXCAVATE MORE THAT IS DUE TO LARGER PIT OUTSIDE OF THE PUBLICLY ANTI SYRIAN. BE CONTINUED PART WATER ON THE LAND TO SYRIA BUT CHANGE TO OTHER LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ON THE SITE TO PUBLIC. AND AXLES TAKE IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN SO CAN BE DEVELOPED. OR SEE CREATE A SECOND STORAGE AREA UPSTREAM TO CAPTURE WATER WHICH WOULD THEN REDUCE THE AMOUNT THAT NEEDS TO BE ON DETAINED ON THE EXISTING PUBLICLY INDUSTRY. WE THINK EACH OF THESE AS PRESENT CON SWISS COURIER WILL SUMMARIZE FOR YOU.BUT AGAIN FURTHER ANALYSIS WILL BE NEEDED TO CONFIRM THE STATEMENTS FOR MAKING CONNECTED WITH ADAM TURNED OVER TO KURT'S WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THE PURCHASE.THANK YOU MOLLY THE SHOW BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIRECTION PROVIDE THE COUNCIL THE PROJECT TEAM HAS DEVELOPED THREE. VERY CONCEPTUAL NEW OPTIONS THAT MODIFY THE ORIGINAL VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT IN

[160:00] AND FOR REFERENCE THIS SLIDE PRESENTS THE REGIONAL VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT OF NORTH. IS TO THE RIGHT AND THE FLOOD WALL ALONG US THIRTY SIX IS SHOWN BY THE BROWN THIN LINE. THICKER RED LINE SHOWS THE DAM THAT WOULD WRAP AROUND THE NORTH AND OF THE FEW SOUTH PARTIAL. MODEL TO PEAK AREA SHOWS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPTS APPROXIMATE AREA OF EXCAVATION AND THE YELLOW LINE SHOWS THE TOWEL TO DRAIN THIS CONCEPT FOLLOWING A MAJOR STORM EVENT. THAT DARK BLUE SHOWS THE ESTIMATED AREA OF PONDERING EXTENT DURING A FIVE HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.THIS SLIDE PRESENTS THE ORIGINAL VARIANT WON FIVE MAJOR CONCEPT IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE BOULDER VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE IS ON THIS YOUSELF PARCEL.

[161:08] THE CONCEPT WOULD RESULT IN POUNDING FROM WHAT MITIGATION DURING A FIVE HUNDRED YEAR EVENT. APPROXIMATELY THIRTY SIX ACRES OF LAND USE AREA AND THAT SEAN BY THE BLUE HATCHING MARKS ON THIS LINE. SO THE THREE NEW OPTIONS ARE ALL VARIATIONS ON THE REGION ALL VERY ONE FIVE AND YOUR CONCEPT. IS REALLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WATER THESE BEAST OR TO MITIGATE FOR THAT FIVE HUNDRED YEAR EVENT. AND THESE OPTIONS LOOK AT DIFFERENT PLACES TO STORE THAT WATER BUT ALL OF IT ON THE CU SOUTH PARCEL. EACH OF THESE CONCEPTS WERE DEVELOPED TO SEE IF WE COULD RE KENYA APPROXIMATELY THIRTY SIX ACRES OF LAND ON THE TISSUE SOUTH PARCEL. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN INUNDATED. BY FLOOD STORAGE UNDER THE REGION ALL VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT HOWEVER ALL THREE OF THESE CONCEPTS WILL BE PRESENTING COULD BE SCALED BASED ON DIFFERENT GOALS. AND

[162:12] OR NEW CONCEPT COULD BE DEVELOPED TO COMBINE SOME OF THESE NEW OPTIONS. SO IT IS ANTICIPATED AT ALL A NEW CONCEPT WOULD PROVIDE SIMILAR DOWNSTREAM BENEFITS AS THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT. MEANING THAT AN ESTIMATED THREE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PEOPLE WOULD NO LONGER BE WITHIN ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN. AND AN ESTIMATED FOUR THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED PEOPLE WOULD NO LONGER BE IN THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.ALL OF THE NEW OPTIONS WOULD STILL REQUIRE THE FLOOD WALL ALONG US THIRTY STRAIGHT AWAY WITH THE CORRESPONDING GROUNDWATER CLEAN SYSTEM. THIS COULD BE AVOIDED BUT ONLY BY PUTTING PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON OPEN SPACE AND PARKLAND. ALL ARE DESIGNED TO NOT REQUIRE FULL RESTRICTION HAVE TO USE THIRTY SIX BRIDGE AND NONE OF THESE INCLUDE PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON OPEN SPACE LAND.NONE OF

[163:02] THE MODIFICATIONS WOULD INCREASE THE INVASION ON OPEN SPACE LANDS OVER THE EXISTING VARIANT WON FIVE HUNDRED YOUR CONCEPT.NONE OF THESE OPTIONS CAN NEGATIVELY AFFECT EXISTING FIVE PLANES INCLUDING DRY CREEK NUMBER TO KITCHEN P CHANNEL. FOR ALL OF THE REVISED OPTIONS WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO INCREASE COSTS OVER THE ORIGINAL ONE FIVE AND YOUR CONCEPT. AND FINALLY ADAPTATION IS MY MENTION SOME OPTIONS FOR CLIMATE CHANGE WILL BE LOOKED AFTER AND COMING DESIGN INCLUDING OVER SIZING. SO NOW I'LL STEP THROUGH EACH OF THESE THREE NEW MODIFICATION TO. HIS FIRST OPTION INCLUDES A REALIGNMENT OF THE DAM AND ADDITIONAL EXCAVATION TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ANY NATION ON THE EXISTING. LAND USE AREA THE FLOOD WAN DIM SEGMENTS ARE SHOWN BY THE DARK RED LINES INCLUDING

[164:00] THE REALIGNED PORTION THAT WOULD EXTEND SOUTH INTO THIS YOU PARTIAL. TO THE ESTIMATED MAXIMUM EXTENT UPON ANGER AND FIVE ENERGY SHOWN BY CAR FROM SHOOTING THE CONCEPTUAL AREA OF EXCAVATION FOR THIS NEW CONCEPT SHOWN BY THE PINK MODEL CHEATING WHICH. THE REGION ALL AREA OF EXCAVATION IS SHOWN BY THE THIN BLACK LINE AND THERE SHE CAN SEE IT ALMOST DOUBLES THAT AREA OF EXCAVATION PIT. THIS FIGURE SHOWS OPTION IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE COMP PLAN USES ON THIS YOU SELL A PARCEL. ALL OF THE ORIGINAL ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY NINE ACRES OF LAND USE AREA SHOWN IN BLUE. WOULD FALL OUTSIDE OF THE FOUR TO FIVE HUNDRED YEAR PUTTING UNDER THIS CONCEPT VERY SMALL CLARIFYING QUESTION WHAT IS SUPERSEDED EVACUATION AREA.AS OPPOSED TO

[165:04] A VACATION ISN'T. SELFISH SUPERSEDED HIS SHOW ON BY THE DARK THEMED ARE LASH LINE AND MOTTLED PINK. DUSTER THE EXCAVATION AREA FROM THE ORIGINAL FIVE HUNDRED YEAR. PERIOD ONE FIVE HUNDRED YOUR CONCEPT AT THAT LEVEL OF EXCAVATION THIS OPTION HAS A GREATER LOVE WHICH SUITS THE ORIGINAL LINE OF EXCAVATION CORRECT FROM EVERYONE. THANK YOU TO SOMEWHERE PLEASE TELL IS HOW MUCH DETENTION WERE LOOKING FOR.THIS IS THESE ARE ALL DESIGNED FOR THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT.I'M ASKING FOR VOLUMES.THE APPROXIMATE VOLUMES FOR THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR STORAGE PINT IN A VERY BECAUSE OF THE TIME BEING IN THE LOCATION OF THESE BUT THEY RANGE FROM ABOUT ELEVEN HUNDRED. ACRE FEET TO ABOUT

[166:04] TWELVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY ACRE FEET OF THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES SOME OF THE ANTICIPATED POTENTIAL PROS AND CONS OF THIS OPTION HAS IDENTIFIED A PROTEIN.THIS CONCEPT WOULD AVOID POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM TABLE MESA DRIVE INTO THIS YOURSELF PARCEL IS SHOWN BY THE UPPER GREEN GOAL OF THE THREE CONCEPTS.THIS WOULD HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT ON POTENTIAL HABITAT PROTECTION AND ENHANCEMENT ON O S THOUGH AS SHOWN BY THE LOWER LEFT A LARGER TREE KNOW. THE POTENTIAL CONS ASSOCIATED WITH ADOPTION RELATED MOSTLY TO THE INCREASED AREA OF EXCAVATION AS SHOWN BY THE RED OVAL. THIS ADDITIONAL EXCAVATION WOULD HAVE INCREASED POTENTIAL FOR ENVIRONMENTAL GROUNDWATER IMPACTS AND SHONE IT WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE STEEP SLOPES AND OR RETAINING WALLS TO FIT THE NECESSARY VOLUME OF WATER. IN THIS AREA YOU HAVE

[167:10] A SENSE OF THE DEPTH OF WHAT THE EXCAVATION LOOK. AT THIS CONCEPTUAL LEVEL WE. THINK THE MAXIMUM DEPTH OF ABOUT TWENTY FEET THE SECOND OPTION INCLUDES PLACING A REASON FAIL TO PROVIDE A HELPFUL AND OUTSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN. WHICH COULD BE CHANGED TO PUBLICLY NEW SERIES. HERE IS A FAIL ARE SHOWN BY THE RED HATCHING ALL OTHER FEATURES OF TIME HERE ARE SEEN AS THE ORIGINAL ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT. THAN THIS FIGURE SHOWS OPTION B OVER THE EXISTING CU LAND USES. THERE IS A FILLER SHOW AGAIN BY THE RICH TRADING. IN THE THREE AREAS WE'VE DEVELOPED ALL THE APPROXIMATELY THIRTY SIX ACRES OF LAND THAT WOULD STILL IN AND EAT FROM FOOD STORAGE AS SHOWN BY THE HATCHING. THESE AREAS OF

[168:02] PHIL WOULD REQUIRE LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGED TO ALLOW FOR SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AS THE LAND USE AREA.WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK BUT WITH CHANGING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION WOULD INCLUDE A SET PROCESS AND TIMELINE.OK YOU CAN COME BACK TO THE LAST QUESTION.LOOK I DO HAVE A MAP QUESTION IS ON THE SCREEN OUT THE AREA FILL IN THIS ONE INCLUDES THE VERY NORTHERNMOST SEGMENT AS WELL SO THAT. I MEAN THAT THAT THAT IS ISOLATED FROM ALL THE REST OF IT BUT YOU'RE PROPOSING DAY CAN ADD THAT BACK IN THE RADIO TALK ABOUT THAT.SOBUSH AND THE POTENTIAL

[169:00] BENEFIT TO THIS CONCEPT INCLUDE A FILL AREA TO FACILITATE BATIK VEHICULAR ACCESS SHOWN AGAIN BY THAT. HOPPER KAREEM HOLDER POTENTIAL CONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OPTION INCLUDE REDUCE POTENTIAL FOR HABITAT PROTECTION AND ENHANCEMENT AND THE OH SO AREA AS SHOWN BY THE RED OVAL. HINDI SKILLS WE WILL COME BACK TO WOULD REQUIRE BOLD A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE CHANGES TO NOT REDUCE THE A NEW SHARIA. AND TO GET YOUR POINT HERE AND TO RICK FERRO ON THE SOUL A NEW SERIE A MOOSE CONCEPT. SHOWN AT THE AREA OF FILL THAT ISOLATED IN THAT NORTHERN PORTION THE GALLERY TO SHOW SOME OF THE FILLING OURSELVES BUT THAT COULD BE MOVED. HOWEVER BUSH STILL HERE YET WOULD IMPACT EXISTING WEAPONS AND WARS THE US THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE REGULATORY RAMIFICATIONS OF WEEKS.YES HE TALKED ABOUT CHILLING IN THAT POND UP THERE.YES THAT WAS AGAIN IN

[170:07] THIS CONCEPT TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FILLER SHOWING ON THE O S SO. SOPHIE ELIMINATED THAT THERE BE MORE FILL IN THAT OH SO. IF THE SAME GOAL IS TO BE MET FOR THAT THREE SIX ACRES OF OKAY A LOT OF CONFUSION I THINK THIS INDEX IN THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR. WERE YOU'RE PROPOSING TO FILL YEAR PROPOSING TO FILL IN THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.IT'S PURPOSED TO BE IN THE ONE HUNDRED YEAR. EACH BOAT AND THE LEECH AND AWE IN THE FIVE HUNDRED YEARS THERE AND SO WITH THAT IF IF THIS CONCEPT MOVE FORWARD AND PHIL WAS. PROPOSED FOR THAT AREA WE WOULD NEED TO NEED TO DO CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT SEGMENT OF THE SUMMIT AND MANAGED TO KEEP GOING BACK TO ALLAH.SO THE THIRD OPTION

[171:00] KEEPS THE ORIGINAL ONE DAM AND FLOOD WALL CONFIGURATION IN PLACE BUT AT UPSTREAM STORAGE IN THE OH SO LAND USE AREA. MATCHING STORAGE ALLOWS FOR THE AREA THAT WAS THEMED AIDED BY FOOT MITIGATION OF LAND USE AREA TO BE EITHER FILLED OR PROTECTED BY A JAM AS SHOWN BY THE RED HATCHING THERE.THIS OPTION PROVIDES THE UPSTREAM STORAGE USING NATURAL CROWN TOPOGRAPHY AND DOES NOT INCLUDE AROUND TOWN AREA TO FACILITATE MORE WATER TO COME IN TEN UP FROM STORAGE AREA.THIS SLIDE SHOW OPTION C IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE MALL THAT I CAN PLAN USES. THIS CONCEPT WOULD ALLOW FOR ALL THE ORIGINAL LAND OR TO BE EITHER FILLED OR PROTECTED BY HIM. AND THE DM IS SHOWN THE FILM SHOWN BY HATCHING THE DHAMMA SHOWN BY THE DASHED RED LINES POTENTIAL PROS ASSOCIATED WITH OPTION C INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.IT WOULD

[172:10] FACILITATE AGAIN VEHICULAR ACCESS THIS SITE AS SHOWN BY THE UPPER GREEN HOLE. IT WOULD LIKELY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR EXCAVATION. AS SHOWN BY THE MIDDLE GREEN OVAL. AND THIS ONE COULD ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY REDUCE LIMITATION ON OPEN SPACE PARKLAND OVER THE ORIGINAL VARIANT WON FIVE MAJOR CONCEPT AS SHOWN BY THE LOWER GREEN OVAL. LIKE THE CONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OPTION RELATE THE AREA SHOWN BY THE RED OVAL AND INCLUDE THE UPSTREAM STORAGE AREA TEAM HEIGHTS MAINLY TO BE TALL OR ARMORED WITH ROCK. OR COUNTRY TO MEET THE STATE ENGINEERS CALL MAXIMUM FIVE REQUIREMENT THE END IT WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE THE POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE REPAIR IAN KIND ACTIVITY AND PROTECTION AND ENHANCEMENT OF THE TORSO AREA.THIS IS A

[173:01] CLARIFYING QUESTION WAS COMING BACK TO EVERY GREAT IT'S JUST CLARIFYING I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATES ON HOW MUCH THAT. AREA UP ABOVE WHO WOULD HOLD TO START FINDING THE OSTRICH RACE.YES OUR CONCEPTUAL ESTIMATED THE UPSTREAM STORAGE IS ABOUT NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY ACRE FEET. IN THE ONE THAT WE SHOW THAT BOOK ENDED ON LAST MEETINGS THAT WAS LARGER THAN THE RUNDOWN WAS ABOUT TWELVE HUNDRED ACRE FEET. IN DISCIPLINE HIS SON ABOUT NINE HUNDRED AND FORTY SO I THOUGHT THAT RUN DOWN YOU GET A LITTLE STORAGE IN THERE. THIS TABLE PRESENT A SEMI COMPARISON BETWEEN THE THREE NEW OPTIONS WE HAVE PROVIDED YOU WITH MORE DETAIL TABLES THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKAGE AND ALSO HANDLED. IT ABOUT THESE THREE VERY DIFFERENT WAYS TO MODIFY THE ORIGINAL HE WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT.ALL

[174:04] THREE WERE DEVELOPED TO COMPENSATE FOR IN ADDITION APPROXIMATELY THIRTY SIX ACRES OF LAND USE HONEST YOU SELL PARTIAL. HOWEVER AS MENTIONED ALL THREE OF THESE COULD BE SCALED BASED ON DIFFERENT GOALS OR NEW CONCEPT COULD BE COMBINED. THAT INCLUDED FEATURES OF ANY ONE OF THESE THREE OPTIONS. NONE OF THESE OPTIONS MAKE IT CLEAR IT CAN NEGATIVELY AFFECT EXISTING FOOTPRINT INCLUDING DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO OR FEEL EACH AND ALL. THE SPECIFICS OF HOW WE DO THAT WOULD BEAT OUT DURING PRE MADE DESIGNS ARE INCLUDED EVALUATING. CHANNEL CAPACITY AND I WAS FEELING CHANNEL AND SEPARATION OF DRY CREEK NUMBER TWO DITCH. SONG NOW TURN IT BACK OVER TO MAUI TO DISCUSS ANTICIPATED NEXT STEPS WOULD YOU SAY YOU SHOULD HANDLE TOURS THERE WE YOU REQUESTED HAND HOW THEY'LL YELL SORRY SORRY.I

[175:00] THINK IF THERE ARE ALSO IN YOUR PACK A PAIR OF THEM ARE DETAILED SUMMARY TABLE. WERE LOOKING TODAY FOR COUNCIL TO CONFIRM WHAT APPROACHED TO MODIFYING THE VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT IF ANY BEST ALIGNS WITH YOUR INTENDED DIRECTION FROM AUGUST TWENTY FIRST. WE COULDN'T AFFORD WITH ONE OF THE THREE HIGH LEVEL OPTION SIANZ DAY FOR WE COULD ADJUST THEM AS NEEDED TO BETTER MEET YOUR INTENDED DIRECTION. OR WE COULDN'T AFFORD WITH THE VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED CONCEPT WITHOUT ANY MODIFICATIONS.ONE COUNCIL CONFIRMS DIRECTION FOR THE CONCEPT THE PROJECT TEAM COULD PROCEED INTO PRELIMINARY DESIGN INCLUDING IDENTIFYING LAND AGREEMENTS NEEDED FOR THE FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS. IN THE ANNEXATION DISCUSSIONS WITH CU BOULDER WILL BE DISCUSSING THE ANNEXATION PROCESS WITH US A SESSION ON OCTOBER NINTH.REPRESENTATIVES FROM CU BOULDER ARE PLANNING ON ATTENDING AND PARTICIPATING IN THAT STUDY SESSION. AS WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THESE CONCEPTS AND HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH VERY LIMITED ANALYSIS IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION BEFORE CONFIRMING WHICH OF THE MODIFICATIONS TO MOVE.

[176:04] FORWARD AND WE COULD CONDUCT ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS. AND BRING THEM UP TO THE SAME LEVEL OF VALUATION THAT WE DID THE OTHER CONCEPTS. AND BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU IN DECEMBER THAT WOULD INCLUDE CONFIRMING LAYOUTS OR HYDRAULIC MODEL RUNS. PROVIDING INFORMATION ON THE DIRECT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AS WELL AS ESTIMATING PROJECT COSTS WHICH WE'VE NOT DONE YET. AND THE ADDITIONAL EVALUATION COULD ALSO INCLUDE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM C USA LANDOWNER IF THAT'S REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.ONCE WE HAVE CONFIRMED THE CONCEPTS WILL BEGIN PLAY DESIGN. WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR AT THAT POINT WE'LL BE ENTERING INTO REGULATORY PROCESS THAT WE DON'T HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER. THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROCESS WILL BE LARGELY DRIVEN BY DISCUSSIONS AND REVIEW BY THE STATE ENGINEER'S OFFICE ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES AND AGENCIES INVOLVED IN FLOODPLAIN REVIEW.THIS WILL BE IN ENGINEERING DESIGN PROCESS FOR THE COUNCIL SELECTED CONCEPT AND WILL BE MOVING INTO THE INFORMAL LEVEL OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DURING PRELIMINARY DESIGN.

[177:07] THERE'LL BE LESS OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY INPUT INTO THE DESIGN BECAUSE AT THIS POINT THE PROCESS WILL WORK. ON TO WORDS AND BE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON MEETING ENGINEERING DESIGN BEST PRACTICES AND FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.HOWEVER WE WILL LIKELY SEEK INPUT ON SOME SELECT SIGN DESIGN FEATURES SUCH AS LANDSCAPING IN THE EFFECTS OF THE FLOOD WALL AND EARTH AND IF. STAFF PLANS TO PROVIDE REGULAR UPDATES TO INFORM THE ROUTE HAS TT AND COUNSEL OF THE PROJECT PROGRESSES THROUGH PRELIMINARY DESIGN. WILL SHARE UPDATES ON THE DESIGN IN ANY ADJUSTMENTS NEED THREE DISCUSSIONS WITH VARIOUS REGULATORY AGENCIES. SIMULTANEOUS WITH THE FLOOD MITIGATION PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROCESS THE CITY WILL BE NEGOTIATING NEGOTIATING AN ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH SIERRA.WHILE THERE WILL BE AND THE NEED FOR COORDINATION BETWEEN THE FLOOD MITIGATION DESIGN EFFORT AND THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. ONCE

[178:01] WE START PRELIMINARY DESIGN WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE CONCEPT FOR MAJOR DESIGN FEATURES. AND CHANGING AS A RESULT OF ANNEXATION PROCESS BECAUSE THAT WOULD SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE REGULATORY AGENCIES AND PROLONG THE PROJECT TIMELINE. ULTIMATELY THE CITY NEED FIND AGREEMENTS WITH LANDOWNERS BEFORE PROCEEDING INTO FINAL DESIGN.WHEN WE HAD COMPLETED PRIMARY SIGN OF SIGNED AGREEMENTS WITH LANDOWNERS.IT WILL TAKE APPROXIMATELY A YEAR TO COMPLETE FINAL DESIGN AND TWO YEARS FOR CONSTRUCTION.THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION HERE STAFF QUESTIONS THAT I REVIEWED AND FOR COUNCIL THAT I REVIEWED WITH THE EARLIER UN STAFF AND CONSULTANTS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.THANK YOU A QUESTION.BUT MARY WAS AT A QUESTION TO ASK IF. WE CAN MAKE JUST STARTED THE BEGINNING AND GO TO REACH CONCEPT TO ME WAS WHEN IT WAS JUST ASKED AND ANSWERED AND THAT WAS THE VOLUME. OF WATER

[179:04] IN THE UPSTREAM AND I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF THE FOURSOME BEFORE WE GOING TO EACH ONE OF THINGS HAS. TAKEN PLACE THERE WERE WITH YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WERE LEFT OUT AT THIS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WAS VERY. THAT PRADA WAS BROUGHT UP LAST LAST TIME IN THE DISCUSSION BY I THINK THE MAJORITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SAYS GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. AND THAT'S NOT EXPRESSED IN THIS E ANY OF THESE MODELS SO I GUESS WHY.WHY ISN'T THERE EXPRESSED IN THE MODELS SO. WE HAVE SHOW AND THE GROUNDWATER COMMAND SYSTEM WITH THE FLOOD WALL STILL IN THE SHOW AND TO BE WITHIN THIS YEAH TRY TO AVOID TO AVOID IMPACTS TO CRITICAL HABITAT THERE.THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU COULD AVOID A GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE PERMANENT IMPACTS ON OPEN

[180:00] SPACE. TERRY THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO PUT HER TO CONFIRM. OUTSIDE OF THAT RIGHT AWAY ON OPEN SPACE MOUNTAIN PARKS AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE GROUNDWATER CONVEY IN SPITE OF THE PERMANENT IMPACTS. ON OPEN SPACE IN BOTH OF THOSE WHO REQUIRE DISPOSAL OF LAND AND REGULATORY PERMITTING ISSUES.

[181:01] A S B HUSSEIN YOU LAST TIME YOU HAD HAD SOME IDEAS OF HOW TO GET GROUND BUT IT CONVENES THROUGH. THAT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST PIN IT DOWN INSTEAD OF THE TOTAL. COMPLETE IN YOU PUT UP THAT AM SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE A FLOOD WALL ALONG AND HAVE LEAST THIRTY SIX AND I THINK THAT WAS AN EARTHEN DAM.SO WHY WAS AND THAT INCLUDED IN THIS HERE DIRECTION OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS NO PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON OPEN.THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO SEE IF THAT DIRECTION AND IF WE MISINTERPRETED THAT DIRECTION.I STILL THINK WE HAVE. AND KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING AND DO IT BUT IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT I THINK FOR THE WETLANDS IN DRY CREEK TO DITCH TWO OR B LEE CHANNEL. THOSE HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECTED SINCE THE TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN.BUT AND THERE'S BEEN

[182:08] AS I UNDERSTAND A SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE OR. FOUR INCHES OR SO OF DECREASE IN THE GROUNDWATER WHICH HAS RESULTED IN. DIFFERENT TYPE OF PLANT SPECIES AND SO YOU GET MORE DRIER PLANT STAND WERE THERE BEFORE SO YOU GETTING THINGS LIKE DIESEL AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THERE WHICH IS NOT. WHICH IS REFLECTING THE LACK OF WATER IN THERE. AND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE DAM OR A U S THIRTY SIX SO I GUESS FOR ME I WANT I WANT SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES THAT. AND RELEASES THE TENSION THAT'S A QUESTION AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHY WOULD I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED A CAN.I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPLICIT IN WHAT WE HAD. DISCUSSED THAT APPARENTLY WASN'T AND I GUESS I WOULD

[183:00] REALLY LIKE TO GO BACK AND HAVE YOU GUYS AND I DON'T RELATE THIS BUT. COULD YOU COME BACK WITH. A GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE IS CONSIDER ONE OF THE AND CLARIFICATIONS THAT WE SAW AT THE END OF THE MEETING LAST TIME WERE TRADE OFFS ONE OF THE TRADE OFFS IS. IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM UNDER THE FOOTBALL. WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON WHO IS IN PEOPLE AND SO AT THE TIME WE ASK FOR THE CLARIFICATION OF THAT TRADE OFF. WHICH DO YOU WANT US TO PERCEIVE EITHER. PUTTING DIRECTS PERMANENT AND AS STRUCTURES ON THOSE NP AND THERE AND THEN LOOKING TO ELIMINATE THE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. OR NOT PUTTING PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON A SIPPY BUT KEEPING THE NEED FOR GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM AT THAT TIME OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS NO PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON IT WAS IN PE. BUT IF YOU ALL WANT TO REVISIT THAT WE CAN REVISIT LOOKING AT CONCEPTS THAT MIGHT PUT PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON US AND THE LAND IN ORDER SPECIFICALLY TO.

[184:00] ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THEIR GRANDDAUGHTER COMMAND SYSTEM THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE LIST OF THINGS TO MAKE SURE YOU WALK AWAY WITH CLEAR DIRECTION ON. MY LIST OF FOLKS DON'T ASK QUESTIONS AND MORE TO BE OKAY BUT THOSE KEY QUESTIONS.THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT ONE WASN'T THAT WAS A QUESTION.SO ANYWAY DO YOU PLAN ON RE ALIGNING DRY CREEK DRY CREEK DITCH TO BE LOOKED AT HER E ZINE THE ASSUMPTION IS WE WERE DISCONNECTED FROM THE CHANNEL NOT REALIGN NYU SAID.I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO PROVIDE THE NEEDED IRRIGATION THAT YOU NEED AND OPEN SPACES.OH WELL IT'S A LOSS FROM CERN HEALY. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PORTION THAT IS SOUTH OF US THREE SIX OR NORTH OF U S THIRTY SIX OUT OF THE SORRY SO THAT IS A DISCUSSION POINT.WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BECAUSE THAT WAS AN OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES RECOMMENDATION FOR THE DRY CREEK.SORRY FOR CONFUSION I THOUGHT HE MEANT NORTH.SORRY SARAH I BELIEVE

[185:13] CUSTOMERS ALICE TALKING ABOUT THIS SLIPS AREA I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS ALIGNMENT OF DRY CREEK DISH NUMBER TO YOU AND THE VET'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO PERMANENTLY PROTECT. OPEN SPACE IN THIS AREA AND REALIGN THE DITCH FOR THE IRRIGATION PURPOSES ANOTHER RELIEVER FOR A IN MAY AND ARE STANDING IS YOU COULD GO IF YOU STARTED THAT UM. THAT CORNER EIGHT THERE WERE YEARS WHEN AREAS AND YOU JUST DRAW OF LYING TO THE STRAIGHTENER I CAN JUST BRING IT ON NOW AND THEN THAT SAID THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION.SO I'M CALLING THAT LITTLE KICKER THE LITTLE ITALY LIKE ITALY TO ME.SO IS THERE A WAY TO ELIMINATE

[186:00] LITTLE ITALY AT THIS IN TERMS OF BEING INUNDATED AND IF YOU LOOK IT COULD WE MAKE IT VERY AND EIGHT. I THINK IT'S VERY AND A LEASE CAN EXPLAIN WITH WHICH TO LEAVE HEAD OF DARK BLUE. GOTCHA THINK IN THE CITY RESEMBLED. INTO THE CELL KNOW ITS MASTER NINE SHIP TO DO THE C ONE TO GET OPTION A YET SO COULD YOU TAKE IS TO ACTION A FLEECE. SO IF YOU TOOK THAT LINE IMAGINARY LINE FROM WHERE YOU JUST TAKE YOUR POINTER AND THEN TO DROP STRAIGHT ACROSS THIS DRY CREEK WERE TALKING ABOUT YA. FOR REALIGNMENT

[187:04] REINSTATED IT WOULD CUT OFF THAT I THINK THAT TO ARMORED IN BANKING AND ALSO SOME OF THE EXCAVATION AND IT WOULD ALSO CUT OFF LITERALLY TO ITALY. YET SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.WE HAVE NOT TO ELIMINATE BACTERIA OF DARK BLUE SHADING ON THE OSA OR EIGHT THERE. WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE FILL CNG WOULD LOSE THAT LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE AND WHAT ACTUALLY MADE UP SOMEWHERE ELSE IN MORE EXCAVATION IT'S OKAY TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT EXCAVATING OF RICHMOND.YES OKAY SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT EXCAVATION.SO ERM SO WE GET A LETTER OUT YOU KNOW HOLES FILLING UP WITH WATER. CAN YOU CAN YOU WALK IS THROUGH HOW YOU WOULD LINE THE EXCAVATED AREA.FAREED NOW IS THAT WE HAVE A GROUND

[188:00] WATER CUTOFF WALL ALONG THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PORTION OF THAT MOTTLED PINK AREA TO PREVENT THAT.HERE HE IS FROM FILLING UP IN THERE FOR NOT PROVIDING STORAGE. NOW WITH THAT AND WE POINTED THAT OUT IN MAKING THE CONS IS THAT THERE'S ISSUES WITH POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO GROUNDWATER FLOW BY DOING THAT EXTRA EXCAVATION.THE EX OR ACTIVATION REQUIRED HIM TO STAY DRY I SEE OF THE STORAGE SO HAVING A COUGH WALL AROUND IT TO KEEP IT DRY FOR YOU IN. THE POINTER TO SHOW HOW WEIRD IS THAT CUT OFF ALL THE RED ON THE RADIO BUT IT IS CUSHY SHOW.HERE'S CAMI CAMI SEE THE CURSOR TO A SMALL YET SO WE'RE WE'RE CONCEPT. IS THAT

[189:01] YOU'D HAVE TO PUT A CUT OFF ALL AROUND THIS. PORTION OF IT TO KEEP THE GROUNDWATER FROM GOING INTO THIS AND FILLING IT UP UPON IT WOULD PROVIDE STORAGE. EXPLAINED A LITTLE MORE I MEAN I KNEW IT WOULD GO DOWN UP UP IN PERMEABLE BARRIER THAT WOULD GO DOWN TO BEDROCK TO PREVENT.SO WITH THAT WE HAVE TO CAREFULLY EVALUATE HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT THE EXISTING FLOW OF GROUNDWATER THROUGH THE AREA. IN PARTICULAR IF IF THE GROUNDWATER FLOWS WHICH WE ARE TALKING HALF THE TWENTY EIGHT GROUNDWATER MONITORING WELLS. IF THE GROUNDWATER FLOW IS GOING THIS WAY THAT IS HAS WON. THE ONE THING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BUT IF HE IS WITH THE FACT THAT THE HABITAT OPEN SPACE MOM PARKED AT A WHOLE NOTHER SHOW. HOW THE GROUNDWATER EXISTING CONDITIONS FLOWS THROUGH THIS YEAR YOU'D BE CRITICAL FOR HOW WE WOULD

[190:00] DESIGN. SYSTEMS TO NOT INTERRUPT BACKGROUND WATER FLOW FROM THIS BIG EXCAVATION. IS AS TRUE FOR ALL OPTIONS AND NO AID NO MATTER WHAT YOU FORGET WHERE THE GROUNDWATER IS GOING NOW AND DESIGN AROUND THAT ABSOLUTELY AN OPTION.SHE WE THINK COULD ELIMINATE EXCAVATION SO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE ISSUE OF GROUNDWATER FLOWS FROM EXCAVATION IN ABSENTEE.OK SO YOU BE OKAY HERE'S THE LIST WITH KAREN BOB SAM MARY IN THE UPPER DECK.CAN YOU ADDRESS POTENTIAL SCHEDULES OF THE THREE OPTIONS BUT WHAT WOULD THEIR IMPACT ON RELATIVE SCHEDULE A TIME FRAME INVOLVED.WE THINK THAT ALL OF THESE COULD BE DESIGNED ROUGHLY WITHIN THAT ONE YEAR PERIOD.

[191:07] NOW THE CAVEAT IS IF WE RUN INTO ISSUES WITH THE REGULATORY AGENCIES STATE ENGINEERS OFFICE. THAT WOULD LOOK TO WRITER MARY TO. MANY THIS BUT WE BELIEVE THAT ANY ONE OF THESE COULD BE DESIGNED WITH THE NEW PERIOD. GRADE STUDENT OF THE DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF DESIGN SCHEDULE FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE IT SEEMS LIKE OPTION B WOULD HAVE ADDITIONAL PROCESS TIME BECAUSE OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.YES I LIVE ON CONSUMER SENTIMENTS NOTICE ALL THE OLDER PILING USE THE COMP PLAN LEAN ASSASSINATIONS COULD BE CHANGED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS THE ANNEXATION PETITION. THE LAND EXCHANGE WOULD BE CONSIDERED A THREE BODY REVIEW MEANING THAT THE APPROVAL IS REQUIRED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL AND THE BOULDER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. COUNTY

[192:00] COMMISSIONERS REVIEW INCLUDES AN OPTION TO CALL UPTIGHT AND FOLLOWING THE CITY DECISION. IF CALLED UP THE COMMISSIONERS MAY APPROVE FOR TONIGHT THE CHANGE OR APPROVING REQUESTS THE CITY MODIFIED APPROVAL. BUT THAT COULD BE DONE AS PART OF THE ANNEXATION PROCESS WITH THE ANNEXATION PETITION. WITH THE WITH THE ANNEXATION BUT COULD YOU RUN CONCURRENT WITH PRELIMINARY DESIGN LIKE HOW WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO ALIGN THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WITH ANNEXATION PROCESS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY. AT THE END OF PRELIM REASSIGNED WE WON AN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER BEFORE WE MOVE INTO FINAL DESIGN SO THEY WOULD BE KIND OF OPERATING CONCURRENTLY AND SAID OH. IT WOULD IT WOULD BE COMING TOWARDS THE END OF THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN PROCESS.SOON OTHERS WOULDN'T DELAY THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WOULD RUN IT MORE OR LESS CONCURRENTLY FROM. THAT IF THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE LANDING BEACHES OF INDIA WOULD NOT BE HAPPIER THAT YOU GET FROM HIM BOB.PHYSICAL PROCESS WITH

[193:02] ACTIONS MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TONIGHT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE TO QUESTION ARE YOU LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM US TONIGHT.WE PRAY FOR A PC OR ANOTHER BUFFY LOOKING FOR THAT FROM US WE ARE.YES HE'D RATHER BE ONE ANSWER NOT LIKE A LIKE OF ALL THIS COTTON TO ALL YOU WANT TO NARROW THINGS DOWN LOW AND WE WOULD LIKE TO NARROW THINGS DOWN.YES WE WERE LOOKING AT OPTIONS TO REDUCE THE EFFECTS ON LAND USE. AND THESE ARE THREE VIABLE OPTIONS AND OUR JOB FROM THE FLOOD ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE WISHES TO SEE IF THEY WERE POSSIBLE AND STILL NEED THE FLOOD MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS OF STATE ENGINEER'S OFFICE EXPECTS BETTER.WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT ALL OF THESE ARE POSSIBLE. ON AND SO NOW THE QUESTION IS UP TO US IF THESE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT. ARE ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE

[194:00] FORWARD IN THE RELATED QUESTION IS WHAT POINT. WOULD WE WILL FIND OUT BUT SEES OPINION ABOUT ABC KNOW THE ABOVE I COME INTO PLAY BECAUSE WE COULD GO OFF AND PICK ONE AND FIND OUT IT. WENT DOWN THE LINE THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THAT IN THE PERFECT SCORE ONE.IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEY WERE PRISONERS FROM CU BOULDER AT OCTOBER NINE STUDY SESSION WILL BE BRINGING A DISCUSSION OF THEIR INTERESTS AND NEEDS FOR THIS PROPERTY.IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WANT US TO LOOK AT WHAT ARE ARE ARE THE CITIES AND DESIRES FOR THE MITIGATION PROJECTS ARE. AND THEN I THINK THEY WILL PROBABLY BE A PERIOD OF SEEING WHETHER THOSE TWO THINGS ALIGN ON WHETHER WE THEY CAN.WE CAN MEET THEIR NEEDS THEY CAN MEET THEIR NEEDS.HE EARNS THE FLOOD MITIGATION CONCEPT THAT YOU ALL WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IF THEY CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER ON THERE WILL BE A PROCESS OF RECONCILING THIS.THANKS SAM CARRY A FEW QUESTIONS.THANK

[195:10] YOU FOR THESE OPTIONS BY THE WAY THERE OVER INTERESTING AND SO V LEE CHANNEL. THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONCERN EXPRESSED GENERALLY WITH THE AREA WON OF ALL FLAVORS. WITH HOW TO REALLY CHANNEL WILL BE HANDLED AND SO I GUESS THAT HE KNEW THIS ANSWER APPLIES TO ANY OF THEM. AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONCERN WITH THE RE CHANNEL AND DRY CREEK WHICH. NUMBER TO OVERFLOW AND SO WHATEVER YEAR DO YOU THINK IS PART OF THIS WHERE YOU REVIEW THE PERFORMANCE OF YOU A CHALLENGER COULD PITCH AND TALK ABOUT THE PREACHER. HE D IN THE PROCESS IN PRIMARY DESIGN WOULD BE TO LOOK AT IN THE MOTT ALL THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF EACH AND ALL. THOSE CONDITIONS MEANING HOW

[196:00] MUCH VEGETATION IS ANNETTE AND SEGMENTATION HAS CHANGED SINCE THE MODEL THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING WHICH WAS USED FOR THE FLOODPLAIN MAPPING STUDY. UPDATE THAT AND WE WOULD LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE OPTIONS OF HOW TO IF WE NEED TO SEPARATE. FLOWS FROM THE LEECH AND OFF FROM DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO. AS DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO IS PROPOSED FOR A FUTURE PHASE OF THIS PROJECT. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY RIGHT NOW SO WE WOULD LOOK AT WAYS TO SEPARATE OR CONTROL THE FLOWS THAT GO INTO IT SO DIDN'T EXCEED THE CAPACITY. THE INITIAL MODEL RUNS INDICATE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE PREVENTING OVER TOPPING OF US THIRTY SIX IN SOME OF THAT OVER TOPPING FLOW. CURRENTLY GOES INTO THAT AREA NORTH OF U S THIRTY SIX. THAT ACTUALLY FLOWS WOULD DECREASE BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE WOULD CAREFULLY LOOK AT AND HALF TO GET THAT FROM THE URBAN DRAINAGE CITY AND COUNTY FLOODPLAIN REGULATORY ASPECTS.OK SO JUST JUST TO RESTATE THAT MAKE SURE TO WRITE.THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS

[197:06] DOWNSTREAM THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED IN THE PAST BY FLOODS THAT CAME OUT OF WATER WAS CONVEYED IN THE DITCH AND CAME OUT IN THEIR AREA.SO YOU'RE NOTHING HERE WOULD MAKE ANYTHING WORSE.WE WOULD ADHERE TO THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE PERFORMANCE DOWNSTREAM WOULD BE NO WORSE. ABSOLUTELY AND THAT'S TRUE FOR ANY OF THE FLOOD INDICATION PROJECTS WE DO AND THAT WANDERING CREEK PROJECT THAT WE ARE. JUST COMPLETING WE IN FACT HAD TO PUT TEMPORARY PLATES ON THE FOOTHILLS PARKWAY UNDER THE CULVERTS IN TOW WE CAN DO DOWNSTREAM IMPROVEMENTS THERE FOR THAT EXACT REASON.OK THANK YOU AND THEN IT LOOKED TO ME LIKE AS YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE OPTIONS OPTION A HAS THE SHORTEST OR THE LEAST LONG. FLOOD WALL THAT GOES

[198:02] DOWN TO BEDROCK IS THAT CORRECT OBSERVATION. IN LABOR JUST PUT TOGETHER THREE OF THEM BUT. THE EAST WEST EXTENT OF THE DAM AND WHAT I THINK IS DOWN TO BEDROCK SEEMS TO BE SMALLEST OPTION A IS COMPARED TO B AND C. SO ALL OF THE FLOOD WALLS ALONG US THIRTY SIX IN THE SAME. THIS ONE WHERE WE SHOW PORTION OF THE THICKER LINE THAT HIS TEAM ON THE NORTHERN END OF THIS YOUSELF PARCEL WERE SHOWING MEAN RIGHT NOW.A THIN LINE THAT IS SHOWN AS A FOOTBALL BUT THAT COULD ALSO BE AN EARTHEN DAM.OKAY THAT'S IN AN EXTENSION OF THE REALIGNED THAT THE CURSOR POINTING TO REST AN EDGE.OK SO I SEE YOU'RE AT THE FLOOD WALL EXTENDING DOWN IT'S JUST MUCH THINNER.SO WHAT'S THE BIG PORTION REPRESENT

[199:00] WHAT I GET WITH THE STEM PORTION WAS JUST THE PERFECT PORTION REPRESENTS AN EARTHEN DAM ENERGY AND THAT TEAM PORTION. COULD BE AN EARTHEN DAM HANS YOUSELF PARCEL INSTEAD OF A FLOOD WATCH AS SHE TOOK A GREAT TIME. AND DO YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY REACTION SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GET LEFT OUT OF THE MOTION.MY MISTAKE WAS THE SNP MITIGATION STEPS OF A SUGGESTED A SERIES OF OF MITIGATION STEPS CONSUMERS COULD BE APPLIED TO ANY OF THESE OPTIONS AS WELL.CAN WE PULL UP THE SLIDE THAT SUMMARIZES THOSE THINGS ARE. THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR REID WE APOLOGIZE IT AND BACK OUTSIDE SO I'LL STEP YOU THROUGH IT BUT. IT'S FOUR IN

[200:02] IT NOR THINGS TO THE RIGHT THERE AND ON. THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THIS USE OUR PARCEL WHICH IS CURRENTLY OUTSIDE THE EXISTING FUEL AT OPEN SPACE FOR TRUSTEES RECOMMENDED CONVEYING FORTY FOUR ACRES OF THAT AREA. IN THE SIDE WHICH IS SHOWN BY THAT RED LINE THAT GOES ACROSS THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES RECOMMENDED CONTAIN FORTY ACRES OF BACTERIA INSIDE THE EXISTING C LEVY. TO OPEN SPACE AND AGAIN THIS APPLIES TO THE ORIGINAL VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT AND THEY ALSO REQUESTED IT.AS LISA POINTED OUT REALIGNMENT RECOGNITION FOR TWO WHICH IS SHOWN BY A DASHED LINE KIND OF IN THE SAME WAY YOU SHOT IT THERE. AND ALSO THEY RECOMMENDED CONSIDERATION CONVEYING OR PROTECTING

[201:00] THE REMAINING OSI WHICH IS ABOUT THIRTY FIVE ACRES THROUGH THE ANNEXATION PROCESS. INSIDE OF THE EXISTING FUEL OF THE HOMIE OR SO AND NOW WHAT WOULD MAKE THAT DIFFICULT IS THAT UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT SO WELL TO GET THIS UP HERE. OPTION A LITTLE ITALY WOULD CHANGE A BIT OF THIS RIGHT BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE OTHER THREE OPTIONS. MORE AND MORE OR LESS THE FACT THAT OPTION A WE BELIEVE WOULD BE THE EASIEST TO MEET THESE RECOMMENDED CONSIDERATIONS. OPTION WITH THE FILL COLOR INTO THAT MAKES THAT MORE DIFFICULT AND THE UPSTREAM STORAGE AREA.

[202:03] TALKING TO OPEN SPACE STAFF WOULD MAKE THAT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT AND MARY JILL. WRITE A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BUT I DO HAVE ONE WITH RESPECT TO. BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS PART OF ASSAM BOI SPECIES MOTION OR ATTACHMENT WHICH IS THAT AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS. EITHER CREATING OR KEEPING IN MIND MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES SO ENDURED. THAT'S IS THAT BEING DONE AND KEPT IN MIND. IT'S HARD TO COME BACK TO SLEEP AND COORDINATING AND WORKING WITH STAFF CLOSELY AND WE COMMIT TO TO BE DOING THAT THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS ABSOLUTELY.I'M A FEW QUESTIONS ON WINE AND IN A

[203:00] COUPLE OF THESE YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT IT ALLOWS FOR ROAD ACCESS. THAT UPPER PORTION IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER THEY DESIRE OR WHAT. PUTS THE PURPOSE OF SPECIFICALLY CALLING THAT OUT IT WOULD JUST. EVEN THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT THE WORK YOU JUST HAVE TO RAMP IT UP AND OVER AND AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR AND OPTION HERE BELIEVE IT IS. KEEPS ALL OF IT EVEN AWAY FROM HATS HE WOULD HAVE TO WRAP WRAP RAM PICKUP IN OVER SO IT'S MORE OF JUST ENGINEERING TO SEE HOW MANY. OF YOU WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO PROVIDE ACCESS. OK DOES THAT DOES IT CHANGE THE COST SIGNIFICANTLY.THERE WOULD BE COST OR AM I WROTE UP ANOTHER DAY. AND THEN I KNOW YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL BUT.

[204:46] MARY POWELL WITH CORPUS ENVIRONMENT.UM SO IN MY

[205:03] OPINION THOUGH THE THREE ARE GENERALLY SIMILAR BUT FOR ROME ON THIS OPTION BE THE FILL OF EXISTING POND RIGHT IN THERE STANDS OUT AS BEAN.I'M FRANKLY NOT NEEDED FOR FLOOD PROTECTION.MOM DID I THINK THE PRIMARY DRIVERS TO OFFSET THE LOSS OF SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTY.SO I THINK THAT PIECE OF THE DIFFICULTY JUST TRY AS PART OF THE FLOOD MITIGATION PLAN.SO I THINK IT'LL BE DIFFICULT TO CALL THIS THE LEAST ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING PRACTICABLE PRACTICABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT MEETS THE PROJECT PURPOSE IN ME BECAUSE THAT FILL MATERIAL. IN THE EARLY PART OF THE PURPOSE OF ME IS NOT SERVING A FLOOD MITIGATION THIS PURPOSE IN YOUR SPEAKING JUST ABOUT GET ON THE NORTH END.YES YES YESOTHERWISE IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY PRETTY GOOD EVEN THE PHIL PART WHERE IT SAYS OH UH SO YEAH THERE ARE TOYS.THERE ARE SOME WELL IS

[206:06] DONE IN THERE BUT I THINK WITH SOME FURTHER ENGINEERING THERE MAY BE SOME WAYS TO MINIMIZE THOSE BUT IT'S THAT'S IT'S WITHIN REASON OF ALL THE ALTERNATIVES.I THINK BUT FOR THAT ONE LITTLE PIECE OR DIFFERENTLY ALL FAIRLY SIMILAR AND I WOULDN'T HAVE.I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE WITH PUSHING ANY OF THEM FORWARD AS A PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE EXCEPT THAT LITTLE THING. CALLED A FACT THAT THIS ONE WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR A LOT OF THE RESTORATION THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED DOESN'T IN YOUR MIND MAKE A DIFFERENCE OR NOT FROM A REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE FROM A CONCUSSION.I DO WANT TO CLARIFY FROM THE SPEECH HE COME RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEY RECOMMENDED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESTORATION BUT THEN THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED. PERMANENT PROTECTION OF ALL US SO SO SO

[207:00] THE AMOUNT OF RESTORATION. THEY RECOMMENDED WAS SEVENTEEN POINT FOUR ACRES. FOR THE FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS TO BALANCE OUT SOME OF THE IN ADDITION IMPACTS ON US AND PEAT LANDS. AND CERTAINLY I THINK THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN RESTORING ALL OF IT AND BY. THIS WAY TO REDUCE THE ABILITY TO PERMANENTLY PROTECT ALL OF THOSE OH BUT THERE COULD BE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FRUSTRATION DONE IN THE REMAINING YEAR. OR YOU CAN GET ONE FINAL THING I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THE PROCESS OR ON THE SEARCH FOR YOU WERE. HERE HE BASICALLY SAYING THERE'S NONE LEFT WE WERE DECIDING BETWEEN THESE THREE OPTIONS IN THAT THE PUBLIC'S NOT WEIGH IN THEN THEY'LL MOVE STRAIGHT TO PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THEN SIMILARLY. IN THAT SAME VEIN IF WE DID GO WITH OPTION B AND THERE WAS A COMP PLAN CHANGE WHAT IS THERE A PROCESS AROUND THAT SHRINE UNDERSTAND IS FRIENDLY. AND WE CONSIDER

[208:08] THIS A FOLLOW UP TO YOUR PREVIOUS DIRECTION AND SO WE'RE SEEKING CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY AM. LOOKING AT THESE OPTIONS AS THEY'RE PRESENTED AS SKIRTS AT ALL OF THESE ARE SCALABLE THE ISSUES THE FILM TO COMPENSATE FOR THE THIRTY SIX ACRES THAT WAS INUNDATED. HE MAY INDICATE THAT THAT'S TOO MUCH OR MORE THAN YOU WERE INTENDING. ON AND SO YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT WE NOT FEEL THAT MUCH AND THAT HE FELL A LESSER AMOUNTS AND SO THERE'S A LOTTA GREAT NATION WITH A LOT OF THESE. AND QUITE FRANKLY ALL OF THESE WERE FROM A FLOOD MITIGATION PERSPECTIVE. I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE OUT SOME OF THE LANDOWNER INTERESTS ON AND SO THE QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IS TO THINK ABOUT TO WHAT DEGREE SHOULD THE FLOOD MITIGATION. CHANGED TO

[209:02] BALANCE THAT OUT NOW IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE NOT READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION WITH OUT TOOTSIE USE INPUT OR WITHOUT FIRST HEARING WHAT SEES INTEREST ARE. WE WOULD STILL VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU IF THEY'RE CERTAIN OF THESE OPTIONS YOU JUST DON'T LIKE HE DON'T WANT TO PURSUE NO MATTER WHAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO NARROW THAT DOWN TONIGHT ON BUT IF THERE ARE SOME OF THESE OPTIONS FOR WHICH. YOU COULD KIND OF TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT FROM A FLOOD MITIGATION PERSPECTIVE BUT REALLY FROM AN ANNEXATION PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS.THEN WE CAN PULL THAT AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH C SO. WE WON A NARROW THIS DOWN AS MUCH ASLEEP ON POSSIBLE FROM THE FLOOD MITIGATION PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND NOT POINT AND WHAT YOUR INTERESTS ARE.

[210:06] IN A LAND USE WE COULD POSIT A LITTLE BIT TO HAVE A LITTLE LEAN DCU CONVERSATION BEFORE WE PICK IT UP TO PURSUE. LAND ON THE EXACT DESIGN THE FOURTEENTH AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING ON A CD ONE DAY THAT YOU. KNOW ONE OF THE LANDOWNERS HERE IS. OPEN SPACE AND MOUNTAIN PARKS AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND WONDERED IF THERE'S SOMEONE HERE FROM. SNP IT DONE WHEN YOU SPOKE LAST TIME WHICH YOU DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING I MEAN. WHAT DO YOU THINK WORKS BEST WITH YOUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND AS LANDOWNERS WHO ARE LOOKING AT THESE OPTIONS TO MAKE OPEN SPACE PARKS WE LOOKED AT THE THREE OPTIONS. AS THEY

[211:05] RELATE TO THE OPEN SPACE BOARD TRUSTEES RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE DETERMINED THAT OPTION A WOULD ALLOW US TO ACHIEVE MOST OF THOSE WHO ORDERED THE OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES RECOMMENDATIONS MOST EFFECTIVELY.UMKEEP IN MIND THAT THIS SEA OF SELF. PROPERTY WAS THE ENTIRE SITE WAS GRAVEL MINE SO ITS THE TWENTY TO TWENTY FIVE FOOT HOLE IN THE GROUND ALMOST IN SOME PLACES DOWN TO BEDROCK SO. IN TERMS OF GROUNDWATER FLOW BOTH LOWER ELEVATION AND GROUNDWATER FLOW ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T DONE THE STUDY TO DETERMINE THIS. IT'S IT'S UNLIKELY THAT YOU HAVE GROUNDWATER FLOWING FROM THE CU PROPERTY ONTO OPEN SPACE FROM THE WEST. BECAUSE IT'S A BIG HOMEGROWN THERE'S NO THERE'S REALLY VERY LITTLE GROUND WATER TWO TO MAKE A MOVE THAT WAY.SO IN TERMS OF

[212:03] UM THE IMPACTS TO GROUNDWATER ON OPEN SPACE FROM OPTION DAY WE FEEL LIKE THOSE WOULD BE. IN SIGNIFICANT FROM AN ECOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE AND RE ALIGNING DRAKE CREEK DITCH TOO IS SAM ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS AS WELL ARE THERE. WILL THERE BE SUFFICIENT WATER IN THERE WHO OWNS THE WATER RIGHTS TO A CREEK DITCH TOO SO THE CITY.WELL THERE ARE MULTIPLE SHAREHOLDERS IN THAT DITCH COMPANY.UMM SOO SOUTH ON SOME CHAIRS THE CITY OF BOULDER IS SOME CHAIRS THAT WE USED TO IRRIGATE THE PROPERTIES ON THE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE U S THIRTY SIX. SO WHILE ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE OPEN SPACE BOARD WAS TO. TRANSFER WATER RIGHTS FROM DRY CREEK NUMBER TWO THAT CU ON TO THE CITY AND MOVING THAT MOVING THE DITCH WOULD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE IDEOLOGY BY THE WATER TOO.IF WE WERE

[213:00] TO DO RESTORATION AS PROPOSED BY THE OPEN SPACE BOARD WOULD ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THAT WATER TO DO RESTORATION WORK. SOON AND THAT SANTA WOULD BE THE RESTORATION IS WILL PROVIDE SOME OF THE HABITAT THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THROUGHOUT IN TERMS OF PRESERVING FOR. THE REBELS MEADOW JUMPING MOUSE AND IT USUALLY STRESSES CORRECT CORRECT. AND SHOULD OFFSET SOMEWHAT SOME OF THE FED GROUND BALL IN THE WATER CONVEYANCE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE IS AN ISSUE. IN THIS GREEN WALL IS INTERFERING IN ITS SOMEWHAT IN THAT SHOULD HELP EQUALIZE THINGS IS THAT CORRECT.THAT'S WHAT WE HOPE YES THANK YOU. MARIETTA THE UNIT ON THIS. YET I THINK CINDY JUST ASKED IT THERE AND IT WAS BASICALLY TO WHAT EXTENT COULD THOSE ADDITIONAL SHARES IN DRY CREEK WHICH NUMBER TO AID AS A BACKUP PLAN. SHOULD

[214:01] THE UNDERGROUND WATER KIND CONVEYANCE FAIL FOR WHATEVER REASON AND PART OF THESE FLOOD PLAIN WET MEADOWS.SOME ARE PARTIALLY SUPPORTED AT LEAST IN THIS AREA ARE PARTIALLY SUPPORTED BY THAT IRRIGATION FLOOD IRRIGATION. SO WHETHER IT'S EIGHTY PERCENT FOR IRRIGATION AND TWENTY PERCENT NATURAL GROUNDWATER IDEOLOGY OR VICE VERSE OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN. IT'S REALLY HARD TO DETERMINE BUT THOSE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THAT IRRIGATION WATER TO THE LANDSCAPE OUT HERE DOES SIGNIFICANTLY SUPPORT THOSE WETLANDS AND HABITAT ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. AND QUESTION QUESTION FOR HIM TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MOST BT TO REROUTE RYE CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO. IS THE CURRENT ROUTE OF THAT DISH AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PRETTY HEALTHY EATER SEEMS HEALTHY RIPARIAN HABITAT IS A LOT OF TREES AND BUSHES ALL ALONG

[215:00] BOMB. ALONG THE EDGE OF THE LEVEE HIM.THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RED CURRY AND VEGETATION IS MOSTLY ASSOCIATED THOUGH WITH THE ON MIND PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE EAST EAST EAST OF LIBBY.SUZ WHO COULD YOU RE ROUTE THE ADDITION SUCH A WAY THAT DOES NOT LIKE KILL OFF FIVE HUNDRED TREES.OKAY GREAT THAT HELPS ME SAD TO THINK ABOUT THAT RECOGNITION THINGS. CLARIFICATION THE FOLLOW UP FOR DISCUSSION GOING SO THE IDEA THOUGH IS TO REMOVE THE BERM RIGHT. AND THE THERMOS ALONG WITH THE CURRENT TRI CREEK DITCH TO CORRECT AND SO THERE WOULD BE SAM MESSINA SAID OF THE DRY CREEK DITCH TO RIGHT NOW IN REMOVING THAT FIRM CORRECT YES.TODAY ITS OWN SO I HAVE A BUNCH OF TO SANDAKAN THE POINT IS IT IS ALREADY GOING TO BE DISTURBING RACE MOVING DRY CREEK DITCH.ISN'T

[216:03] THAT MUCH MORE DISTURBANCE TO THE RIGHT AREA NEAR THAT EXISTS YET.RYANN AND I THOUGHT YOU KNOW GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF DAMAGE THAT WAS DONE IN THE TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN FLOOD. TO DRY CREEK DITCH TO NOW YOU HAVE TO CHANGE AND THEN APPEARING IN COURT OR IN TERMS OF THE VEGETATION. DRY CREEK DITCH TWO WOULD PROVIDE TWO TWO FUNCTIONS ONE WOULD BE TO HIM TO ALLOW BETTER AND IRRIGATION OF O S O AND O S AND P GRANT. AND IT WOULD AID THE RECOVERY OF DRY CREEK DITCH TO ITS ENVIRONMENT SECTOR IS YES. THEN YOUR POINT EARLIER ABOUT TOM THE CHANGES IN IDEOLOGY AS A RESULT OF CHANGES IN IRRIGATION THE APPLICATION OF IRRIGATION WATER FROM DRY CREEK NUMBER TWO AFTER

[217:00] THE FLOOD. THAT WAS LARGELY A RESULT OF DAMAGE TO. INFRASTRUCTURE THE HEAD GATES IN THE DIVERSION BOXES AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO REPAIR THOSE THINGS BUT YOU'RE CORRECT WE SAW CHANGES. IN VEGETATION IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS AS A RESULT OF THE LACK OF THIS. MORE OR LESS THE SAME LEVEL OF IRRIGATION THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST EIGHT DECADES READY IN THE UK TO WORK AND THIS IS YOU CLAIM TO. REPAIR EVERYTHING SO IT'S BEEN A CRITICISM IT'S JUST AN OBSERVATION HER ARM AND I DON'T LIKE PEACE OR MY BACKYARD.OK SO I'M A HAT.I MAY HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE FIT I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS.SO ONIF WE CAN GO BACK TO OPTION A OR VEREEN A WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING A OPTION.WE HAVE THE U S THIRTY

[218:03] SIX AND FLOOD WALL COMING THAT GREAT BIG LONG ONE NOT THE EARTHEN DAM THAT THE BIG FLOWING. AND THERE IS A CONCRETE DAM IS SET CORRECT IN THAT DAY AND GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BEDROCK IS THE CORRECT CORRECT AND THAT IS COMPLETELY ON MC D ATLANTA SAID CORRECT.THAT IS ENTIRELY PROPOSED TO BE WITHIN THE FORTY FOOT SPEED AFTER A DELAY UNLESS I CAN AVOID IMPACTS TO CRITICAL HABITAT. SO IF YOU DID HAVE COULD YOU HAVE AN EARTHEN DAM ALONG. U S DEBT THAT U S THIRTY SIX IN IF YOU DID HOW MUCH O S M P PLAN WOULD BE AFFECTED BY HAVING AN EARTHEN DAM. WEAK AND THAT WOULD BE ON CRITICAL

[219:00] HABITAT IN THERE AND WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATED ACREAGE FOR YOU FOR THAT CAME IN N ERM. SO I DO HAVE TO PINCH. THE YEARS QUESTIONING THERE THAT IF THAT COULD BE A NURSE AND AM ON A LISP AND PEEL AND THEN YOU WOULD NEED THE GROUNDWATER CORRECT. OR A CONVEYANCE SYSTEM FOUND MUTTERED OKAY AND SO THAT'S THE BIG TRADE OFF OF THE WANNABE OR THE INFIRM OR GROUND LIKE ADVANCE. AND DO GOOD TO HAVE A GET OF HIJACKING A QUESTION BUT DO WE EVER GET US TO OPEN SPACE STAFF WAY ON THAT CLEARLY FOR US.COULD WE BUT SINCE YOU'RE GOING THAT WAY.JOHN POTTER THE BOULDER OPEN SPACE DEPARTMENT. ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND OPTION D WAS TO AVOID IMPACTS TO THE USUALLY STRESSES ALONG THAT AREA SO AN EARTHEN DAM BUT PROBABLY IMPACT THOSE POPULATIONS. DIRECTLY AND MORE SIGNIFICANTLY THAN THE GROUNDWATER IMPACTS THAT

[220:00] COULD COME FROM GROUNDWATER SYSTEM.IT'S GOOD TO ME ALL I JUST WANNA CLARIFY HERE AND KIND OF TALK IT THROUGH.SO IF WE'RE SAYING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT AN EARTHEN DAM ON THIS CRITICAL HABITAT. YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT WILL CAUSE LOTS OF ACREAGE IS WILL JUST SAY ONE ACRE AND IS TOTALLY THROWING IN A PRESSURED FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE. SORRY I'M CONCERNED IF WE HAVE ONE ACRE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY DISTURBED OF CRITICAL HABITAT BUT YET. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIRTY SIX AND A MASS AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT NOW WILL FULLY BE FUNCTIONAL NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES IS THAT TRADE OFF WORTH IT.IS IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S

[221:00] SAYING OR IS OR IS I GUESS THE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM SO ON IMPACTFUL THAT YE WOULD NOT SUGGEST THE EARTHEN DAM.SO THERE'S THERE'S SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY AROUND ALL THIS AT THIS STAGE BEFORE WE DO THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN THAT WE WERE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO MOVE FORWARD AND STILL. HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THINGS AS THAT GOES ALONG TO THE TROOPS BECAUSE OF THAT UNCERTAINTY IS. YOU KNOW WE'RE KIND OF THINKING THAT GROUNDWATER SYSTEM AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE ENGINEERS IS. GOING TO WORK TO SOME EXTENT. WHAT WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY SURE WE GET RESULTS BACK FROM THE GROUNDWATER STUDIES IS AS JOHN WAS SAYING HOW MUCH DID THE ORCHIDS ARE. AFFECTED BY THE GROUNDWATER FLOW VERSUS WHAT WE DO FOR FLUTTER HAITIAN IN THAT AREA.ONCE WE CAN HAVE THAT DATA BACK FROM THE GROUNDWATER WELLS WILL BE ABLE TO START TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER AND BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AND YOU HAVE. MUCH MORE PRECISELY OUT

[222:03] WITH SOMETHING I GUESS I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE CUZ IF IT TURNS OUT THAT. WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT CAN BE PROTECTED AND WAS RELYING ON THE GROUND WATER AND THEN WE ONLY HURT MAYBE A MUCH SMALLER ACREAGE. FOR ME IF I TREAT US THIS CHURCH ARE YOU. JUST FOLLOW ON ON THAT QUESTION YOU MENTIONED THE GROUNDWATER WELLS. AND HOW MUCH DATA WE COME IN. TIMES WORST OF TIMES WHAT LENGTH OF TIME WILL YOU HAVE MONITORED THE GROUNDWATER BY THE TIME YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.I THINK IT'S AROUND TO BE AROUND EIGHTEEN MONTHS OF MONITORING BEFORE CONSTRUCTION IS THAT RECORD. CAN I HAVE TRIED TO PLEASE TO RISE AND BRAUN THE BRITISH MANAGER FOR THE DESIGN TEAM.

[223:00] OH SO PRETTY AND TWENTY EIGHT NEW MONITORING WELLS WE ANTICIPATE BY TELLING IT TO CONSTRUCTION WE WILL HAVE SOMEWHERE AROUND EIGHTEEN MONTHS TO. TWENTY FOUR MONTHS TO YEARS OF DATA FROM THOSE BUT IN ADDITION TO THOSE THERE ARE EIGHT WELLS THAT WERE EXISTING.I'M SORRY OKAY TO EIGHT WELLS AND THOSE WELLS HAVE EIGHT YEARS OF DATA AND WHAT WE EXPECT WILL TO DO IS CORRELATE THAT DATA. FROM THE NEW WELLS TO THE OLD WELLS SO WILL EFFECTIVELY HAVE TEN YEARS OF DATA THAT WE CAN UTILIZE TO PREDICT HOW THE SYSTEMS GOING TO WORK. AND ARE THERE THOSE EIGHT WELLS THAT YOU WILL BE YOU USING TO CORRELATE THE NEW HOURS TO. COME IN THE SAME VICINITY WHETHER THE EIGHT WAS OUR OWN BIOS AND PEACE AND THEY'RE ON OR SIMPLY PROPERTY SO THEY ARE IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT S. AND THERE THEY ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF US TO BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH NODE ON

[224:00] THE WILLS ARE BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF US ARE SICK OF IT. I'M SORRY THE ONLY NORTH OF U S THIRTY SIX.THANK YOU NORTH COURSE ON THE OTHER SIDE.OK SO JOHN CAN JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION AND I THINK DID YOU SAY THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS JAM. ALONG US THIRTY SIX AS PROPOSED IN THIS PLAN. THAT GOES DOWN TO BEDROCK THAT GETTING V LEE CHANNEL THROUGH HERE WOULD PROVIDE GROUNDWATER YOU WOULD NEED THE GROUNDWATER CONTAMINANTS THAT WOULD BE SURFACE WATER BUT IT WOULD EVENTUALLY. IT WOULD PROVIDE THE GRANDMOTHER UNIQUE ON THE NORTHSIDE KNOW LUCY HAVE NOT TOTALLY FOLLOWING YOU'RE OKAY SO I ASKED HER COULD WE DO AN EARTHEN DAM.IT'S THIRTY

[225:06] SIX A AND THEN USE THAT OR MY UNDERSTANDING YES YOU SAID WELL. WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE CRITICAL HABITAT THAT WOULD ADD FIRST EARTHEN DAM WOULD HAVE MUCH WORSE IMPACTS US ON THE CRITICAL HABITAT THEN. JUST GOING AHEAD WITH A LOT SO YEAH SO UM. EARTHEN DAM WOULD FILL RIGHT ON TOP OF EXISTING POPULATIONS OF YOU LADIES TRESSES SO WE WOULD KNOW THAT FOR CERTAIN IMPACT ON THOSE THOSE PLANTS THEIR GROUNDWATER IS STILL REALLY UNCERTAIN.WE ASSUME THEY WOULD WORK IT WILL WORK TO SOME DEGREE.PLUS WE MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPLEMENT WITH IRRIGATION WATER FROM DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO TO MAINTAIN THE HABITAT ON BOTH SIDES OF HIGHWAY THIRTY SIX TO A SUBSTANTIAL DEGREE. THAT'S OUR HOPE BUT AGAIN IT'S REALLY UNCERTAIN AND THAT'S WHY IN ORDER TO MAKE THINGS WHOLE. THE OPEN SPACE BOARD

[226:03] RECOMMEND ALL THIS RECOMMENDATIONS HERE.OKAY IT'S THAT GOOD COMPANIONS THOUGHT THAT. MY NOTEBOOK WITH SUSU YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE AREA THAT WOULD GET KILLED IT'S NOT JUST HABITATS ARE KNOWN POPULATIONS OF THE ACTUAL CLASS THE WOODS. OR THE AMIS CUT OUT BUT YET NO SHOW THAT THAT IS GOOD AND THAT SORT OF WHY WE GOT TO OPTION DE MONACO OR APPARATUS OKAY THAT'S IT.AND THIS CUTE GUY SO COULD YOU HAVE UP OUR EARTH AND IN PART CONCRETE DAM. IT ALONG US THIRTY SIX THE CITY. COULD BE DON IT'S FOR WORKING WITHIN THAT FORTY FOUR RIGHT AWAY WHICH ISN'T VERY WIDE ONE. AND YOU NEED A

[227:02] CERTAIN WIDTH FOR THE EARTH AND AM FOR THE STATE ENGINEERS CRITERIA. DOESN'T FEEL SO OVER REALLY UP AGAINST TO AVOID PERMANENT IMPACT OPEN SPACES AND FORTY FOUR. GREAT HOW WE WOULD GET NICE AND CURIOUS HOW WIDELY THE EARTH AND THE MP. IT VARIES DEPENDING ON HEIGHT AND SO THE U S THIRTY SIX FRIGID START TO ESSENTIALLY ZERO AND RAMPS UP TO ABOUT NINE FEET HIGH WERE THE YELLOW LINE IS. THIS FLOOD WAS NOT TERRIBLY HIGH. BUT IT'S A FUNCTION OF HOW HIGH IT WOULD NEED TO BE AND THEN THE FUNCTION WITH THE ENGINEERING SO THAT. STATE ENGINEERS ARE COMFORTABLE THAT IT WOULDN'T PIPE UNDERNEATH AND FEEL THIS IS NOT UNDERMINE IT AND AND MORE SPECIFICS I WOULD HAVE TO ASK ROD TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THAT PLEASE.MY RECOLLECTION FOR BARRY WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR WHERE

[228:00] THE TUNNEL IS I BELIEVE WERE TALLER THAN TEN FEET OR THAT ONE HUNDRED ISO.I THINK MAYBE SOULS FIFTEEN FEET THERE. SO WE ARE TWENTY BELOW IS TO MELATONIN IS SO NOT GOOD MATH IN MY HEAD BUT THE ON EARTHEN DAM THAT THE PART OF THE TOP OF THE TWENTY FEET. AND THEN HOME IN EXTREME SLOW SO THE WET SIDE WOULD LIKELY BE A TWO ONE.SO IF WE'RE FIFTEEN FEET TALL.THAT WOULD BE THIRTY FEET.JUST WHEN HIS FIFTY IN THE DOWNSTREAM FLOW FOR THE DRY SIDE.IDEALLY WOULD BE LEAST THREE TO ONE THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER FORTY FIVE FEET.SO ANYWAY AT ALL. THE DISH RIGHTOK HEY MORE THAN FORTY I WILL PROCEED ANY FURTHER SO I WENT AND PREACHED HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE EXCAVATION AND ERM.

[229:00] AAND IS THE LITTLE SKINNY. THAT IS BOUND TEAM. THE PUD UM DID YOU PUT THAT THEIR RATES OR REASON FOR THAT SHAPE IT WAS JUST MINIMIZE THE FOOTPRINT BUT AGAIN THAT COULD BE AN EARTHEN DAM SO THAT COULD BE MOVED.I MEAN I GUESS I'M WONDERING WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE AREA FOR ATTENTION AND IF WE TOOK AWAY THE BOO OR THE STILETTO OR THE LITTLE ITALY.EVEN IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AREA THERE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCAVATED. AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD TAKE THAT LITTLE AREA AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AGAIN HE ALL OF THESE ARE FUN PEOPLE SO WE COULD

[230:00] SKI ALL THESE FOUR MOVE THAT EARTHEN DAM TO THE NORTH AND MINIMIZE SOME OF THE EXCAVATION. BUT WE DID WITH THIS EXERCISE. LIKELY TRY TO AT THE UPSTREAM CONCEPT IS TO BOUND IT TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET ALL THIRTY SIX ACRES. OF THEM BUT IF COUNCIL GIVES US DIRECTION THAT BAD HE'S TOO MUCH WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THE BAT TO THE NORTH. AND OR REDUCE THE EXCAVATION WHEN YOU SAY TO THE NORTH HERE I'M SORRY LISA TAYLOR LAST DAY TO THE WEST THE OTHER NOISE NORTH MAIN. SORRY I'VE BEEN THE ANSWER MY QUESTION OF COULD YES IS DEAD A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTON. SORT TO THE WEST AND SO THAT YOU WOULD GET A LITTLE BIT EXTRA BECAUSE REALLY DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT MUCH AREA. AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD ACCOMMODATE THERE WITHOUT GOING. INTO THE I RESTATE NOAA THAT MIGHT CLARIFY I THINK WE'RE SAYING IS THIS AREA THAT'S GOING INTO THE O

[231:00] S SO THE EXCAVATION AREA THAT'S GOING INTO THE SAID OH. AREA HERE INSTEAD OF GOING TO OSF KEEP IT TO THE PK UO AREA AND INSTEAD TAKE AWAY THE EXCAVATION WAS NEEDED HERE AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ON THE .SOME WERE UP TO THE WEST IS THAT LINE DRAWN BECAUSE OF THE TENNIS COURTS IS THAT WHAT THAT LINE IS DRAWN TO AVOID THE LAND USE. NOT JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE AND SO IT WAS IT WAS SIMPLY TO. TO TAKE IT OFF OF THE LAND USE BUT WE COULD INSTEAD OF PUTTING SOME OF THE EXCAVATION INTO THAT OH OSO AREA COULD. COULD NOT KEEP IT OFF OF ALL THE AND INSTEAD USE SOME OF THE FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION.CAN YOU GIVE ME A ESTIMATE OF THE LITTLE LUKE AREA THAT WE JUST THAT MOLLY JUST VERIFIED.YOU KNOW IT HOW MANY

[232:02] ACRES SAID. MOLLY IS OUR FEARS THE INSIDE OF THE EXISTING LEVY I BELIEVE IS FORTY ACRES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE EXCAVATION AREA NOW THE SELLER ALL OVER THE WHOLE SUMMARY.NEXT THE EXCAVATION AREA IN OUR SO THE I. THINK I KNOW YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS AND WE COULD PROBABLY DO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. IF YOU GIVE US DIRECTION TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF THE TENSION WITH OUT GOING ON THE O A SOUL AND WE COULD COME UP THAT NUMBER AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD REQUIRE. THIS PROVIDES THIRTY SIX BASICALLY PUT THE THIRTY SIX ACRES BACK.OBVIOUSLY IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXCAVATION ON NOAH'S OLD LAND WHICH I THINK IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING. TO REQUIRE SOME ACREAGE P U B BUT WE COULD TELL WHAT THAT WOULD BE THIS ALL DOWN TO BEDROCK RIGHT NOW RIGHT. PRETTY MUCH MEANS PRETTY GOOD FOR YOU ON THE SITE.

[233:14] YES OKAY SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TO GET CLOSE TO US I KNOW I AM ALMOST DONE AND JUST ERM JUST APPEAR.OKAY SO UM WE UM SO. UM ONE OF THE ONE OF NINE OPTIONS STATES IN THE ATTACHMENT ANY OF THE RECOMMENDED CONCEPT ADVANCEMENT TERMS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED BY THE AU IS PT. AND NUMBER NINE SAYS THAT TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A MONITORING AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN SAM DIAZ LOOKING LADIES ARE BEAUTIFUL ANYWAY.

[234:05] AND WORKS TO ADDRESS LONG TERM NEEDS TO KEEP THE PROJECT FUNCTIONAL AND WITHIN DESIGN PARAMETERS HE SAID SOMETHING GATES CAN DO. BETWEEN OPEN BETWEEN OPEN SPACE AND AN OPEN AND WORKS ACTING ABSOLUTELY SAME CITY YET. SEEMS JEFF ARTHUR DIRECTOR WORKS UTILITIES. WHICH HAVE PRECEDENT FOR THAT ANOTHER IS WE WANT SOMETHING I NEVER RELATED TO PARKS BUT WILL DO AGREEMENTS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THINGS CONTINUE TO OWN YOU COULD DO THAT.OK SO I DON'T THINK I'M PRETTY MUCH DONE AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT AN OPTION. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTION IN THAT DIRECTION BEING OPTION A AND WITH THE ALLOWANCE TO GO IN A LITTLE BIT THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU NEED EXACTLY WHAT THIS RUT.THE ENGINEER SAID UM AND JUST FIGURED THAT OUT.SO

[235:05] JUST HER KEEP THAT OPTION ANY BUT DON'T INCLUDE EXCAVATION IN THE OSO AREA CORRECT.ANNE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. DRY CREEK DRY CREEK DITCH TO BE RELYING. IN THE I WOULD SAY NORTHWEST SOUTHEAST DIRECTION BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT BUT I THINK YOU KNOW AS THEY PROPOSED IN THEIR DISCUSSION. CLASSES OR READ COULD COULD COULD WE JUST INCLUDE THE EXPLORATION OF O'S SPEECH RECOMMENDATIONS HIS ACTIONS. AS A SET FOR OTHERS AND SO I WOULD LIKE IN IN THAT INTERIM FOR MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR MOTION AND I THINK FOR JUST A CORPORATION. OR GIVING DIRECTIONS CLEAR MOST O I'M JUST GIVING DIRECTION.SO

[236:02] PLEASE INCLUDE ALL NINE S AS A PARENT JUST SAID O NINE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE.HE MOTIONED THE CORRECT TIMING EXPLORING THEM ALL.WELL I MEAN THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK MADE A CASE AND A BUNCH OF HANDS IS A GOOD REASON THE CITY.OKAY I SAW BOB STANTON CITY BOOGIE TILL THE SKIN.I WOULD SWEAR WHAT LISA SAID THE TASK.LATER ON BUT CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT AND THIS MAY BE ALL SET. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE FIVE ACRES OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S NOW IN IOWA SO EXCAVATION AREA MOVES UP INTO THAT WE CAN AVOID COME.WHY CANNOT SEE TENNIS COURTS AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT SEE YOU IN A ONESIE YOU BUY AND I THINK. MAYBE THEY ARE AGNOSTIC AS TO WHERE YOU PICK UP THOSE FIVE ACRES OR WHATEVER THEY ARE. IF YOUR

[237:01] AGNOSTIC I TRY TO AVOID TAKING OUT YOU THE ACCESS ROAD OR THE TENNIS COURTS I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MORE LIKELY TO GET BY AND FOR SEO. OK WE'LL GET THIS AN INTENSITY THE PANERA SO I'M. WRITING OR GIVING DIRECTION ON THE CONCEPT AND FOR ME THE OPTION A STANDS OUT AMONG ALL OF THEM I. REALLY DON'T LIKE C OR B FOR VARIOUS REASONS THAT CAN GUARANTEE BUT A FAKE WORLD AND THAT OPTION A LIKELY. I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE FIVE ACRES ON AIR OR SO BECAUSE THE WAY THAT LINE WAS COME UP WITH WAS THAT FOR THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS. AND SO I'D LIKE TO PRESERVE FLEXIBILITY IN OTHER WORDS WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING HEAR FROM SEE YOU SHORTLY ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS ACTUALLY ARE. AND IF THE NEEDS AND ONE OF THE POINTS OF THIS EXERCISE I THINK WAS TO LOOK AT.COULD YOU BOTH PRESERVE ALL THOUGH AND YOU KNOW THE THIRTY SIX. ACRES THAT WERE GOING AWAY AND STILL BE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD DETENTION AND NOT

[238:00] NEGATIVELY IMPACT. A LIST MP SENG STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AT ENVISIONING A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO AT NIGHT AND THIS ONE TO ME STANDS OUT.I DON'T WANNA BE SO PRESCRIPTIVE YET BECAUSE IF CU COMES BACK AND SAYS THAT. A NEED AND TWENTY ACRES. AND TWENTY NINE THEN THIS PROBLEM JUST GOES AWAY. AND SO I THINK MORE IMPORTANT FOR AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LEARN OTHER THINGS LIKE GROUNDWATER FLOWS AND SO ON SO. I'M HAPPY SETTING A GOAL. THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WHAT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED OH SO. BUT I REALLY THINK AT THAT MOMENT I'D LIKE TO PRESERVE FLEXIBILITY FOR. DISCUSSION RACES WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPLORATION SAID THE DRAFT HAD TO HAVE A PREFERENCE YET I HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR NOT DOING IN CHURCH. AND I WANT THEM TO AT LEAST I CAN TO STAND IN THEIR SNOW REASON WHY THEY LOOK AT THAT'S WHAT THAT'S CORRECT BUT ALSO THERE'S. NO REASON TO PRE SUPPOSE THAT WE NEED TO PRESERVE IT ALL ON YOUR DUES.

[239:01] AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'RE NARROWING IN ON SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN SPEND THE NEXT YEAR ON. AND GIVE US UPDATES SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT TRADE OFFS ARE POSSIBLE AS WE LEARN THE REAL STUFF.I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GROUNDWATER ISSUE.I MEAN I TRY TO GET COVERED PRETTY WELL TONIGHT AND PREVIOUSLY. YOU KNOW I BELIEVE THAT THE ENGINEERS WILL BE ABLE TO DO REALLY GOOD GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM ONE STAND OR STAND WITH THE GROUNDWATER COMES FROM AND GOES TO. AND SO I HAVE PRETTY GOOD FAITH.I'M GLAD THAT WERE PATROLLING IT CLOSELY AND MEASURING IT BUT IT'S A PRETTY GOOD FAITH BECAUSE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE. ROUTINELY IN THE PAST SO WE KNOW WHERE DOES NORT GOING.I'M HOPEFUL THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ENGINEER THE FLOOD WALL AROUND IT BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO GIVE UP AS MUCH OPEN SPACE PARKS LAND AS IN PERSON AND WOULD PROBABLY COST US.WE'RE ALL CONVINCED ON THAT.OK SO I MEAN I GUESS.OPTION A LET'S

[240:05] REMAIN FLEXIBLE I HAVE A PREFERENCE JUST LIKE LISA DOES FOR NOT EXCAVATING ON A LESS SO BUT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN JUST BE MASSAGED AND DEPENDING ON THE OTHER TRAITS DEPENDING ON THE TRADE OFFS TECHNICALLY AM FOR CU WHAT THEY NEEDED A CITY. I AM ALSO THE PREFERRED THE OPTION A AND JUST FOR CLARITY THE WE ASKED AARON SAID WE WOULD JUST EXPLORE THESE. OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES RECOMMENDATIONS BUT I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR WITH STAFF BECAUSE WE JUST. ADMITTED PUTTING DADDY AND I SECONDED SIMMONS' MOTION LAST TIME THAT WE WANT THOSE. LOOKED AT NOT JUST GLANCED OVER AND WILL MAYBE WORK AND MAYBE THEY DON'T BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THEM. AND UM I THINK CU IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE DO I SEE HERE WITH SAM SAYING ABOUT PRESERVING FLEXIBILITY BUT THE LAST. EXCAVATION WE CAN DO ON THE O S SO I AM ALSO IN

[241:00] FAVOR OF.I APPRECIATE WHAT BOBBY SAID ABOUT THE CU TENNIS COURTS THEY ARE EXPENSIVE THEY WERE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE EXPENSIVE TO REPLICATE AND SO PRESERVING ANYTHING LIKE THAT IT'S IN THE GROUND THAT WE CAN DO YA WOULD BE GREAT.SO I LOOK FORWARD TO REALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS AND LIFE SAFETY BEING THE BIG DRIVER HERE. THAT WE GET A MOVE ON WITH IT SO I THINK IT'S IT'S A GREAT SOUL CAN I CLARIFY ONE THING SO. WE HAVE A PRESS FOR PREFERENCE FOR NO EVACUATE NO EXCAVATION ON NOAH SO THAT DEPENDING ON THE OTHER TRADE OFFS LIKE TRYING TO AVOID TO USE TENNIS COURTS.GREASE A PREFERENCE FOR IMPLEMENTING O S B T RECOMMENDATIONS WITH A NICE SHORT IF THERE'S SOME BETRAYED US AND WHAT THEY ARE ON MORE THAN JUST EXPLORING. I'M JUST RE ON THE RACE FLYING TO REFERENCE RE IMPLEMENTING THE CIVIC LEAVE OUT GREAT.DRY

[242:11] CREEK DITCH TO THE REALIGNMENT BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE BACKUP IF THIS GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK CORRECTLY FOR RECLAIMING THE LAND AS IT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE. BY THE FIRE AND SAND AND GRAVEL COMFORT IN MY DIRECTION AND NINETEEN MOLLY GOT IT GOING.I ASKED FOR THE BOYS BEAT HE AND LOIS M P STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF REALIGNMENT OF DRY CREEK DITCH TO HOW THEY. SHOWED HOW THEY HOW WERE THEY WOULD LIKE IT AND I'D ALSO JUST MENTION AGAIN. THE WATER RIGHTS AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO PICK UP THE EXTRA WATER RIGHTS FROM CU TO A MARY SUE I KEEP WAITING LONG ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. THE CELL THAT IS

[243:03] WHAT THEY SAID. THIS OH YEAH AND I I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO ALIGNMENT SO THAT IT IS A BACK UP INTO. THE GROUNDWATER CONVEYANCE SHOULD IT FAIL AND IT MAY VERY WELL NOT BUT JUST IN CASE.UM SO UM YEAH WHAT EVERYBODY SAID ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD AIR. CREWS WHAT'S BEEN SAID IS WELL I THINK WE'RE GOING IN A GOOD DIRECTION HERE JUST MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADDITIONAL WAY TO THINK ABOUT. THE GOAL OF SHIFTING OUT OF THOSE SO IS MAYBE WITH A PRIORITY OF SHIFTING IN SUCH A WAY IS TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT O S B T RECOMMENDATIONS. THING TO SAM'S POINT THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT LIKE. ME BE THE ONE ACRE WESTERN MOST IN THE PINK SHADED EXPLORATION ARE MATTERS THAT MUCH WAS MORE ABOUT WHERE THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN WAS BUT. TO THAT EXTENT WE'RE ABLE TO.

[244:01] ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THOSE ACTS ON RECOMMENDATIONS BY S B T THAT TO ME WOULD BE COST SHIFTING THAT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TALK TO TO SEE YOU IN JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AND I ASSUME WE COULD GIVE SOME MINOR UPDATES TO THE DIRECTION. OF WHEAT WHICH MAY WELL HAVE A GREAT COMBINE THE MOMENT WITH THEM AND SO WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BOW TIED ON THAT DIRECTION THERE BUT. I'M RELIEVED IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING THE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF DELAY ON THE OVERALL PROJECT WITH THIS DIRECTION GIVING TONIGHT SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT TO SEE. A KID I GUESS I FEEL LIKE WE'VE COME TO GOOD COOK OR COLLECTIVE PLACE.I THINK WE'RE GIVING YOU SOME PRETTY CLEAR DIRECTION.I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN TALKING TO SHI THIS PAST WEEK AND ARE MY I THINK THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING VERY WELL.MOM AND I WILL SAY THAT WE JUST FOCUSED ALL ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF THE EARLIER CONVERSATION BUT OBVIOUSLY AS YOU SAID CINDY FOOTE SAFETY DRIED ALL THIS. I JUST WANNA

[245:08] SAY SOMETHING TO THE AUDIENCE ABOUT HAVING FAITH IN WITH US IN GETTING THIS RIGHT I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME REAL PROGRESS. IN COMING TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE IN REAL TIME OR BRING PEOPLE ALONG AND I THINK THAT WE'RE ENDING IT WITH A MUCH BETTER PROJECT CAN TELL.THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. WITH US TO MEET EITHER MUSHY POINTS OF CLARIFICATION A. AND ONE IS AND THE O S B T RECOMMENDATIONS ALL OF THEM SEEM LIKE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THERE IS WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION TO DEVELOP AN UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT.I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT IS NOT ONE THAT WE'RE INCLUDING IN THIS BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE. SORT OF SELECTED THIS THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ACTION STARS I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF ITS TRUE WE LOOKED GREY AND WE'VE DONE. THE I MEAN YOU DID DO IN THIS OPTION C GUESS IT DIDN'T TAKE A LOT OF THOUGHT FOR ME. AND WE WE FELT LIKE

[246:02] WE EXPLORED IT AND WE MET AT THE JUST ONE LECTURE ON THE SAME PAGE ON THAT AND THEN AS WELL BECAUSE THERE WAS. A DIFFERENCE OF UNDERSTANDING BEFORE I THINK WE COME BACK AROUND AGAIN AND IT. READ IN KNOTS AND ENCOURAGE THE PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON O S AND P PLANS AND THEREFORE WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE FLOOD WALL WHICH WOULD HAVE A BROWN WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT RIGHT.CADE BELIEVE BRIGHTON CREEK DITCH TO RELYING YES I BELIEVE THAT WILL CONVINCE US RATHER SOUNDLY THAT NIGHT. WE DO HAVE IN THERE JUST TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE WE DO HAVE THE ACQUIRING THE ADDITIONAL WATER EXPERT.YES AND THAT IS PART OF HIS PT RECOMMENDATIONS BUT ALSO SPECIFICALLY CAUGHT OUT BY THE END I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GAZE EVERYBODY FOR I MEAN IT WAS A MONTH. NOT EVEN

[247:00] QUITE A MONTH AND AM TO COME UP WITH THESE THREE CONCEPTS THEY REALLY APPRECIATE IT.I KNOW IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY BUT I DO THINK WE GET A MUCH BETTER AND SAFER. SYSTEM IN TERMS OF DOWNSTREAM FLOODING AND THAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT AND SO I AM JUST REALLY THANK YOU FOR. YOUR HEADS TO THE STONE AND COMING UP VERY CREATIVELY WITH DIFFERENT COLOR TO THE WHEEL. AND ONCE AGAIN I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR YOUR PATIENCE AND CAREFUL THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION WITH THIS THINKING IT'S A BIG DEAL.AND UM IT WILL TAKE SOME OF YOU KNOW IT IT WILL BE AT LEAST SEVEN GENERATIONS AND THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY AND IN SPEAKING WITH CU.

[248:11] I THINK THEY'RE VERY THEY'RE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IS SAFETY AS WELL. AND SO I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WITH TED WAS CU AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO LET US LOOK AT MORE OPTIONS SO FINAL WORD TO SAM.YEAH I MEAN I AM VERY PLEASE THAT WOMAN FORWARD OF BRIDE COUNCIL KIND OF COALESCED AROUND A PARTICULAR OPTION WHICH MAKES TEST JOB EASIER FOR ONCE INSTEAD OF HARDER.UM AND I THINK WE MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY.YOU KNOW IT WILL COST US.NET NET A FEW MONTHS.MOM TO TWO OF THEM THIS AND MAYBE SOME DOLLARS WE DON'T KNOW BUT TO GET THE RIGHT PROJECT HERE. IT IS SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO AS THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD DETENTION. AS OVERFLOW INTO THE ACTUAL CHANNEL AND HAS GROUNDWATER CAN DANCE AND HAS THE POSSIBILITY OF RESTORING A BUNCH OF HABITAT AND BEFORE I THINK IT'S A REALLY. GOOD PACKAGE THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IN THE REAL CONCERN.THE LAST

[249:06] TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS THE LANDOWNER CU. WAS GOING TO SOMEHOW BE UPSET ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD STAND IN THE WAY AND I THINK THAT LETTER THAT WE GOT FROM SUE YESTERDAY KIND OF PUT IT SIMPLY WHICH SAYS THAT YOUR JOB TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST FLOOD CONTROL PLAN.IT'S OUR JOB TO EXERCISE THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE STATE. FOR BALANCE IN THIS WAY WE'RE GOING TO LET SEE YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THEIR MISSION AND US ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION AT THE SAME TIME SO. THANK YOU STAFF FOR PATIENTS THANK YOU TO THE FOR COMING ALONG WITH US OK WITH THAT.

[250:07] THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON THE CIVIC USE PAD THE DAY A WEEK IN THE EAST THE AMERICANS WILL SEE THE OMEN AND THE WAR.I CAN HOPE THAT GOES WELL WITH. OUR SORBET GO DEN I COMMUNITY VITALITY AND PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR WILL LEAD US TO DO AN UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON NEXT STEPS IN THE CIVIC USE PAD. AND THEN WE WANT IS GOOD NEWS. THE KID WHO CAN THANK THE NOT A GOOD EVENING COUNCIL VERY QUICKLY AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.I'M HOPING TO BRING YOU GOOD NEWS.SO THE PRESSURE WILL BRIEFLY GO TO THE PROJECT HISTORY HOUR WE TOOK THE LIBERTY OF UPDATING SOME NON PROFIT FEEDBACK.

[251:02] LOCALLY THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO YOU THAT UPDATE YOU ON THE NEGOTIATIONS AND NEXT STEPS. VERY QUICKLY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF THE PROJECT ON LONG IN NINETEEN EIGHT WHERE THERE WAS AN URBAN RENEWAL PLAN ADOPTION AND FOR NINTH IN CANYON.THE PLAN WAS MODIFIED IN NINETEEN NINETY FIVE TO INCLUDE A CAP YET FOR TWENTY PERCENT GROSS FLOOR AREA DEDICATION FOR CIVIC USES BETWEEN TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR AND TWO THOUSAND FIVE. THE RISE AND SAINT JULIAN OPENED MUCH TO THE HAPPINESS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE PROJECT AT THAT POINT IN VISION AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CIVIC USE PAD.IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AT THAT TIME. THE PARTIES ENVISIONS THE PAD BUT DID NOT ACTUALLY SAY WHEN IT WOULD BE DEVELOPED AND THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND ESPECIALLY FROM TWO THOUSAND AND FOUR THROUGH TWO THOUSAND FIFTEEN. THE COMMUNITY BENEFITED GREATLY FROM SEVERAL CIVIC TASK FOR SEVERAL OF YOU.

[252:09] THE DOW'S A GREAT COMEDIENNE TO THE TIME WHICH INFORMED THE PROCESS OF POTENTIAL USES AND EXPLORED THE INTERESTS OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. MOST RECENTLY THERE WAS A DESIGN CONCEPT COMMISSIONED BY THE CITY WHICH WAS VISITED BY COUNCIL IN TWENTY FIFTEEN AND AT THAT TIME CONSIDERING HIGH. THE ROOF TOP DECK WAS ELIMINATED FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN. WAS A LITTLE PAUSE AND TWENTY FIFTEEN AND RECENTLY OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO MY PREDECESSORS AND I HAVE ENGAGED IN CONVERSATION AND WITH THE ST JULIEN PART. I WANT TO BEFORE I GET INTO WHAT NONPROFITS ARE SAYING I DO WANT TO CONVEY DAY WHICH I THINK CONTRIBUTES TO THE GOOD NEWS. THAT ST JULIEN PARTNERS HAS BEEN A VERY ACTIVE PART OF THESE CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE ANXIOUS TO HEAR YOUR SUPPORT FOR SOME OF THE IDEAS WILL BE CONVEYING THE FEED. WE TOOK

[253:06] THE OPPORTUNITY SINCE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SOMEWHAT SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN TO THINK THROUGH. WHAT NONPROFITS ARE SAYING TODAY AND I'M THANKFUL TO THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND FOR WORKING WITH US TO EXPEDITE A SURVEY REACHING OUT TO ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY. NONPROFITS IN BOULDER COUNTY MANY OF THOSE NONPROFITS DID WRITE BACK TO ME AND SUGGESTED THEY. DON'T FEEL A NEED TO PARTICIPATE FULLY IN THE SURVEY BECAUSE THEIR NEEDS ARE BEING MET IN THE PART OF THE COUNTY WHERE THEIR OFFICES ARE LOCATED. AND WHERE THEY HAVE SECURED THE KIND OF FACILITIES THAT THEY NEED. FIFTY SIX HOWEVER DID RESPOND PRIMARILY BOULDER NONPROFIT OF ALL SIZES AND TYPES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MANY OF THOSE FINDINGS WERE SIMILAR TO THE FEEDBACK THAT THE TASK FORCE IS FOUND BEFORE.THERE ARE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS I WANT TO GO TO A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT.IT WAS SLIGHTLY LOWER CAN CONCERN THAT DAVID'S FACE OVERALL IN BOULDER IS LACKING.ALTHOUGH

[254:10] THERE HAD BEEN REALLY NICE. COMMITMENTS MADE AND A LOT MORE COOPERATION BETWEEN NONPROFITS HAS ALSO BEEN SOME. EVIDENCE IMPROVEMENT IN PLACES LIKE THE DAIRY CENTER AND THE MOCHA AT THE LIBRARY THAT HAVE ALLOWED FOR THERE TO BE. MORE NON PROFIT USE SPACE AS WELL AS THE THIRD PARTY OPERATING THE NEWS IN OUR COMMUNITY.THERE WAS ALSO GREATER EXPRESSED PREFERENCE FOR PARTICULAR MANATEES THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE AND ACCESS AND KITCHEN AS WELL AS NEARBY PARKING REMAIN A PRIORITY. GETTING A LITTLE DEEPER INTO WHAT THE NONPROFIT IT TO SAY NONPROFIT IS STILL IN THE BUSINESS OF DOING EVENTS BUT THEY VARY GREATLY.PRETTY EVENLYTHEY ARE CONDUCTING ROUGHLY TWENTY EVENTS PER YEAR SOME MUCH MORE SO MUCH FOR YOUR. OWN AND THEY ARE

[255:05] CROSSING AND ARTS AND CULTURAL PERFORMANCE IS ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT FUND RAISING ACTUAL FORMAL FUNDRAISING DINNERS AND RECEPTIONS ARE ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT. TWELVE PERCENT ENGAGING IN BOARD AND MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS OR ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS AND SOME OF YOU MAY WONDER WHAT IS THE TWENTY NINE PERCENT OTHER.THOSE INCLUDE A MYRIAD OF THINGS EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES OR TRAININGS WORKSHOPS AND PANELS OPEN HOUSES VOLUNTEER EVENTS FAIRS AND PARTICULARLY REHEARSALS SO THEY WERE A LOT OF CULTURAL. GROUPS THAT ARE LOOKING FOR REHEARSAL SPACE. AGAIN THE AVERAGE NUMBER EVENTS ABOUT TWENTY AND THEY REALLY DO RANGE IN SIZE EVERY WHERE FROM FIFTEEN ATTENDEES TO FOUR HUNDRED AND ONE AT TWENTY THREE THOUSAND BUT THAT'S THE BOULDER COUNTY FAIR.LET'S TALK A BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.WE

[256:00] TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THEM TO RANK WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THESE NEW SPACES SO THAT THEY CAN UPDATE US. AND SAY JULIEN PARTNERS IN IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE TO BE MET IN THIS TYPE OF SPACE.BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE NUMBER ONE THING THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE ABILITY. TO SERVE AND PROVIDE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES DURING THEIR HEADS IN. THE I DID NOT MAKE THAT ENCOUNTER I AS WELL AS A WARMING KITCHEN AND OR ACT OR A CATERING KITCHEN SPACE. AND FREE PARKING AND I'LL PUT A CAVEAT ON THAT WE DID GET SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT NEARBY PARKING WAS AS IMPORTANT AS THE PARK AND BEING FREE. TO POINT THAT OUT OF THE COST WAS ACTUALLY NUMBER FOUR IN THE RANKING.SO IT'S STILL AN ISSUE OF COURSE FOR EVERY NON PROFIT. AND THEN OTHER WHICH WAS A MYRIAD OF THINGS AND SPACE CAPACITY IN METZ ABOUT TOTAL NUMBER OF ATTENDEES THAT COULD ATTEND IN THE OTHER CATEGORY.I HAVE

[257:00] TO POINT OUT THAT SEVENTY SIX PERCENT WANT THE ABILITY TO CHARGE ADMISSION TO THEIR EVENTS AND THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN IN THE SPACES THAT THEY COULD RANT. AND FIFTY TWO PERCENT SAID THAT THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS NOT EVEN AVAILABLE OR EXISTING IN BOULDER. EITHER BECAUSE IT HAS TO COME WITH SOME KIND OF STAGE OR ACOUSTICS THAT AREN'T AVAILABLE TO THEM AND MAY OR MAY NOT BE MET BY THIS TYPE THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE. THOUGHT WE WOULD CHECK WITH SOME NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY SO IN YOUR MEMO I BELIEVE ON PAGE THREE WE POINTED OUT THAT WE REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTY TO FIND OUT.ARE THEY SUBSIDIZING AND CREATING NONPROFIT YOU SPACE AND CIVIC SPACE WE HAD FIVE RESPONSES AND MOST DO NOT DIRECTLY SUBSIDIZE A CIVIC SPACE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS UNDERWRITING NONPROFITS TO OTHER FORM.

[258:35] THERE WERE THREE IDENTIFIED ISSUES. DEFINING AND MANAGING THE CITY USE ACTUALLY DEFINING WHAT DOES THAT MEAN PUTTING ON A DOCUMENT WHICH COULD BE POTENTIALLY A MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT OR FACILITY OPERATING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES. HOW WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE RESERVATION TAKE PLACE AND WHAT ABOUT THE COST OF ASSOCIATES OF THE QUEUE SO EVEN THOUGH. THE PARTNERS ARE CLEAR IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY IS THE ONGOING COSTS OF THE MANAGEMENT CLEANING AND UPKEEP OVERTIME

[259:00] OF THE SPACE IN THE CITY USE. THE SECOND IS AROUND CIVIC USE EXPENSE COVERAGE SO THIS IS AROUND DEPOSITS AND OR DAMAGE DEPOSITS WHICH ARE QUITE TYPICAL IN INDUSTRY. THE CITY THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS AS STAFF. AND THANK YOU DAVID HERE. OR HERE COUNCIL HERE IN THE SOURCE SAYING THE AMOUNT OF THE APPLICATION OF ANY CITY SUBSIDY SO THAT WE CAN CONTAIN THE CITY'S EXPOSURE IN THAT AREA OVER TIME. AND THEN REPORTING HOW DO WE KNOW HOW OFTEN ITS USE WHAT ACCESS WE HAVE TO THOSE RECORDS AND WHAT INPUT WOULD WE ACT. AND FINALLY ALCOHOL LICENSE APPLICABILITY IN THE SHOCK OF HIS NIGHT HERE TONIGHT BUT I CERTAINLY WANT TO THANK HER AS WELL FOR HER COUNSEL AND TIME SPENT WITH THE PARTNERS. WITH THAT SAID I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN YOUR MEMO WE PROVIDED HIM A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT FOR HOW CLOSE WE THINK WE ARE. THERE IS AN APPETITE

[260:04] AMONGST ALL PARTIES TO CONCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE. FEEDBACK THIS EVENING IN THE QUESTION THAT WE POSE HERE DOES COUNCIL HAVE FEEDBACK REGARDING THE SCOPE AND DIRECTION OF THESE ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE PARTIES. RELATED TO THE COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION CIVIC USE AN ALCOHOL LICENSE FOR AT THE CIVIC AT THE ENVISIONED CIVIC USE.OKAY I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD THOSE PEOPLE FOR THE NEW NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK.WE'VE BEEN TO THIS A FEW TIMES I GUESS I JUST WANT TO SEE US HAVE A GOOD FEEL FOR THIS TO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT. THE WHOLE PROCESS AND WHY WE'RE HERE. I WAS I WAS ON THE TASK FORCE THE LAST ITERATION NUMBER FOUR WAS AND LISA ONCE WE WERE YET TO GET ME. TO JUST KIND OF SPEED THIS UP TO SAY THAT AT LEAST FOR ME.THE CC

[261:07] FILIGREE IT BE REALLY GOOD AT SOMETHING HAPPEN BEFORE JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY SO THAT THE ACTUALLY GOT A BENEFIT OUT OF THIS. AND AND THE CONVERSE IS TRUE WHICH IS IF THAT CLOCK RUNS OUT AND WE HAVE FAILED BOMB PLOT OF A LET'S NOT LET THAT HAPPEN SO I GUESS.SO YES THANK YOU FOR PICKING THIS UP WITH SOME SORT OF URGENCY AND STILL IS AT A COMMON THEME THE DAY I WILL SEEK TO KNOW IT IS A QUESTION SO HE MET.THANK YOU FOR YOU PATIENTLY FOR HIM I WAS WONDERING ABOUT ALCOHOL LIKE HER IN MAYBE A BIT SOMEBODY CAN. ANSWER THIS BUT WHEN WOULD IT BE SEPARATE THE LICENSE WOULD IT BE SEPARATE FROM SAINT JULIEN AS IT'S ONE OWNER.WE WERE INSTRUCTED BY DESHAWN THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER IF THERE WAS ONE ALCOHOL LICENSURE THAT APPLIED IN BOTH

[262:00] ENTITIES.REMEMBER THAT THE FLOORS ABOVE RE THIS FACILITY WOULD BE STILL SERVICE BY SAINT JULIAN SO IT WOULD BE ONE LICENSURE WHICH WE UNDERSTAND FROM A SHINE CANNOT THEN BE. GIVEN TO OTHER ENTITIES SO THROUGH THESE NEGOTIATIONS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO. DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE'D BE CHARGED TO NON PROFITS AT COST. AND THAT WE WOULD AND SAINT JULIEN PARTNERS WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS THE LAST DAY AND WE COULD BE THE DEAL THAT YOU CHARGE IT COSTS YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR LICENSE.CORRECT ME AND A WOODEN. SODA NONPROFITS WOULD BE A FIRE THEY WOULD BE RESERVING KLEIN UNDER. FOR THE END N AS I AM SOMEONE WHO IS ON THE COUNCIL WHO IS HOPING TO GET TWENTY PERCENT OF THE TOTAL SCORE FOOTAGE AND WE DIDN'T.I'M IN HAVE BEEN ON THESE DIFFERENT TEST WAS.I AM ENTHUSIASTIC AND I

[263:15] WOULD COMPLETELY HE DID A WHIT TO XI'AN WE GET THERE FAST ENOUGH AND TO NOT FINISH THIS BEFORE JANUARY TWENTY TWENTY IS NOT OKAY.SO SO AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE ARE SOME MISSING JULIAN THE LAST ITERATION WAS GOING TO BUILD. THE STRUCTURE WITH ITS OWN DOLLARS TO ARISE OF COURSE IT WILL BE ITS STRUCTURE AND WERE REALLY JUST GETTING THE USE OF IT. BUT THIS PIECE EVEN WHERE THE CITY PROVISION OF SOME PORTION OF THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXTENDED STAY UNITS ATOP THE PAPERS OR SYRACUSE SPACE.YES NOT TO EXCEED TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN SUBSIDIZING NON PROFIT USE AS DEFINED IN THE AGREEMENT.UM

[264:08] SO THAT WOULD BE FROM THE ST JULIEN IS. UNITS JUST RIGHT ABOVE THEIR CORRECT THIS DOES NOT APPLY IN CONCEPT AGAIN THIS IS A NEGOTIATION. IN CONCEPT THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO THE EXISTING ST JULIEN UNIT IN THE HOTEL RATE THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS TAXES ARE AT THAT TIME SEVERAL AS. IT IS ENVISIONED THAT THE UNITS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED ABOVE THE CIVIC SPACE. AND THE ACCOMMODATIONS TAX WOULD BE THE SOURCE OF THE FINDING THAT THE CITY IS USING TO SUBSIDIZE THE FIRST FLOOR YOU. TO A MAXIMUM OF TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ALTHOUGH IT IS ONLY TO THE AMOUNT THAT IS ACTUALLY USED. SO SAFE THERE IS LOW OR USE IT WOULD BE LESS USE DEDICATED AND OR THAT. SHOW SO THERE'S THAT PIECE OF IT AND THEN THAT THESE OUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE

[265:00] OFFERED THE NONPROFITS WILL BE OFFERED RATE ROUGHLY TWENTY PERCENT OF THAT CHARGE BY. THE SAME JULIAN TO OTHER INDIVIDUALS.SO WHEN I DIE I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE IS JUST SOME ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH THAT WOULD BE TEN TO FIFTY TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND A YEAR TO THOSE USES.I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT IS MEAN TO GENERALIZE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER KINDS OF NEEDS.YES UM IF I MIGHT PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTESTS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING WITH YOU AFTER DAVID NICE AND I. WE'RE WORKING TOWARD A SERIES OF RATES WITH A CAP EX THAT ESCALATION YEAR OVER YEAR TO APPRECIATE A DEGREE OF INFLATION.THOSE RATES ARE BASED ON TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ROOMS THE LAST AND THE ROOMS ARE ENVISIONED TO BE ACCORDION TIN SIZE. SO IF YOU USE A SMALLER ROOM CHARGE

[266:00] TO SMALLER RATE AND WE ARE LOOKING TO ALSO STAGGER THAT AUNT LENGTH OF TIME OF USE WITH A MINIMUM OF PERHAPS. AS LITTLE AS TWO OR FOUR HOURS OR BOARD MEETING PER SE. VERSUS NEEDING SOMETHING FOR A FULL DAY FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS.I BELIEVE WE'RE HAVING AN EXCELLENT CONVERSATION AND ARE USING RELEVANT COUNTY COMPARABLE THE NEWS TO CREATE THAT. ITS SERIES OF FLATTERY TO SHOW WHY THE SECLUSION OF THE CHILL THAT THE TUTOR FIFTY K IS WHAT GETS SUBSIDIZED. BUT I GUESS AT THE RATE BEING CHARGED IS SUCH THAT NOT ENOUGH NONPROFITS CAN USE IT FOR TWO FIFTY K'S NOT BEING USED. THE I MEAN DEPENDING WHAT YOU COME UP WITH THE MAYOR MAY NOT GET YOU STRAIGHT AND YET IT MAY NOT MEAN WE MAY NOT HAVE A MARKET THAT. WILL THEN

[267:04] WE CAN USE MORE THAT TWO FIFTY K LOWER THE INCREASE OF THIRTY ONE ADJUSTMENT DEPENDING ON. THE JOB WILL BE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BENEFITS ACTUALLY GETTING TO RIDE RIGHT TIME AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING THIS THROUGH.IT'S SORT OF DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. WHAT WOULD BE MOST DESIRES AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CAVEATS. AND SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE WORK TO DO HERE AS WELL AS PERHAPS FOR THE CITY DISCUSSION INTERNALLY I WOULD IMAGINE. TALKING TO ARTS AND CULTURE FOR EXAMPLE OR OTHER DEPARTMENTS FIND OUT WHAT MIGHT BE THE HIGHS BUT HE SPECIALLY BUILT APARTMENT THINGS LIKE THAT. IN PART MY POINT WAS BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING THE TWENTY PERCENT DISCOUNTED RATE TWENTY PERCENT WITH THE SAME JULIAN CHARGES THAT THE B MOVIE SHOULD BE.IT SHOULD BE A LESSER AMOUNT TO BEGIN WITH SO THE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY SHOULD BE QUITE GOOD.I WOULD THINK A PRETTY GOOD HEFTY SUBSIDY.UM WE WE HAVE

[268:04] DEVELOPED IN BELIEVING THAT IT WOULD CREATE A NICE CAPACITY FOR THE CITY DID SUPPORT. IF IT IS DECIDED THAT. IN JUST AS A FOLLOW UP TO SPEED JUST FOR CITY ENTITIES OR ARE WE GOING TO BE GENEROUS AND GO OUTSIDE IF THE ARTS ORGANIZATION HAPPENS TO BE OUT. OF ORANGE AND BARREL GUN BARRELS IN THE CITY.I'M THINKING ABOUT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE LINE THERE. NO BUT IN THE ENCLAVES OF TELEVISION HAVE THESE NEIGHBORS OF LISA ZAPPA AND VIOLET ARE AARON'S I CERTAINLY KNOW THAT SAINT JULIEN PARTNERS DESIGNED SOME SPECIFICITY. AND SO I THINK IT WILL BE FOR CONTINUING CONVERSATION BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.

[269:18] WE NEED TO SET UP SO THAT THEY AREN'T BARRIERS TO ACCESSING OUR BENEFIT THAT PART OF THE DEAL. AND THAT IF OR IF THEY'RE SOMEHOW BARRIERS PUT UP ON THERE AND THAT PREVENTS US FROM ACCESSING IT AND THEN. THE AGREEMENT ISN'T REACHING YOU DON'T LIKE THE NICE TO BE SOME RECOURSE SAID IT CAN BE SELF CORRECTING.IF WE COULD TAKE OUR LOT BACK THAT THEY BUILT ON TO BECOME A NO I THINK THE ATTIC GREEK ASSAILED IT'S KIND OF POLY SALES AT HIM.THIS IS WHAT WE LEARN FROM THE AGREEMENT THE FIRST PLACE IN. THE RIGHT AND THE RIGHT BASIC FRAMEWORK IN PLACE IMPORTANT. AND I'M

[270:00] JUST MAKE ONE OTHER POINT WHICH IS A GROWN UP ON THE VERGE OF TALKING ABOUT OUR LARGER BENEFIT CONVERSATION AND A SINK. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK OUT DEALS PRIVATE DEALS THAT CAN BE A BENEFIT.IT WILL MAKE THE CONVERSATION EASIER BUT IT TURNS OUT WE CAN REALLY CASH IN A MEANINGFUL WAY ON THESE IT WILL UNDERMINE THE U K AND I THINK. I JUST SENT ME THE JURY VERY MUCH WHILE I WAS GOING TO WORK.WELL YOU'RE GIVING ME HOPE BUT I THINK IT WILL REFLECT POORLY ON FUTURE ARRANGEMENTS IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THESE KIND OF THINGS WORK.WELL I MEANT IT IN PART THAT WAS IT WASN'T SET UP IN THE MOST IDEAL FASHION BUT NONETHELESS THE CASTLE.AARON WITH IT AND MARY.APART FROM THAT PART OF I MISS THIS IS WHO IT WAS A LITTLE HARD TO UNDERSTAND FROM THE MEMO.IF A NON PROFIT HAS DONATED ALCOHOL WILL THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING THAT AND SERVE AT THEMSELVES AND HAVE JUST A SMIDGEN

[271:00] BARTENDERS THAT CONDITION.IT WAS THAT MONDAY WOULD BRING IT IN THE RUE SALIENT PARTNERS THAT IS CHARGING AT KOS AND THEY WOULD USE. USE ST JULIEN PARTNERS TIPS CERTIFIED ARE DOING BARTENDING SERVICES. AS AN OPTION THAT IS STILL SOMETHING WE COULD CONTINUE TO TIGHTEN BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHICH MEANT. HE WOULD BRING IT THROUGH THE SINGLE AIM AT WHAT IF I MAY SHARE PROBABLY TOO MUCH INFORMATION AT THIS LATE HOUR BUT I HELD A NON PROFIT. ON BEHALF OF THE CITY NONPROFITS WHOLE LICENSURE AND ENTITIES WOULD BRING THAT DONATED THE DISTRIBUTOR WOULD BRING THE DONATED ALCOHOL THROUGH. THE NONPROFITS MY ORGANIZATIONS LICENSURE AND THEN WE WOULD SELL ON BEHALF OF THE NON PROFIT. I WOULD

[272:05] DEFER TO ME SEAN ON THE SPACE OF SPECIFICITY OF HOW IT HAS TO SO I'M NOT TALKING SO MUCH ABOUT LICENSING HER BED. BUT NONPROFITS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY MAKE THEIR FENCE WORK AS THEY GET SOMEBODY TO DONATE THEIR ALCOHOL. THEY OFTEN SERVE OR FREEZE PART OF THE VAN. AND SO WHAT KIND OF FEES WOULD THEY BE CHARGED UNDER THAT ARRANGEMENT IS HEY I GOT ALL THE STUDENT ONE MB OR.

[274:05] CONSTRUCTION. I AM CORRECT YOUR INNER AT IT THE SAME SALIENT PARTNERS AND DURING ALL THE COSTS CORRECT CONSTRUCTION DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION COREY TO THE FEEDBACK IS THAT'S GOOD. WAY OF NOT PAYING FOR THAT QUESTION. IS IT JUST TO BUILD THE SHELL THAT ORDERS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE SPACE BEING FLEXIBLE AND AT SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT I RECALL. TALKING ABOUT WOULD REQUIRE US. FITTING OUT THE SPACE IN OTHER WORDS SO HAVE YOU GOTTEN DOWN TO THE GRANULAR EITHER PAIN FOR. CLEARLY THE SHELL ON THE H FAC AND THE DOORS IN THE WINDOWS AND ALL THAT BUT HOW ABOUT MY ACCOUTREMENTS ON THE INSIDE. FURNISHING AND WHY I LOVE FURNISHING WIFI

[275:00] AND TALKED ABOUT I CAN REMEMBER MAKING IT FLEXIBLE WITH SOME INCREDIBLE TEACHERS SHE COULD DO A SMALL PLAY IN THERE. AND YOU KNOW SO I JUST WONDER HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD TO GRANULAR TO HAVE YOU GOTTEN ON THE CONSTRUCTION FEES AT THIS POINT WE'VE DEFINED CONSTRUCTION BROADLY TO INCLUDE. THE OUTFITTING FULLY OF THE FIRST FLOOR BUT WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY SPECIAL REQUESTS. THAT MIGHT FOR EXAMPLE INCLUDE A STAGE OR ANY PARTICULAR TYPE OF ACOUSTIC MATERIALS I WOULD IMAGINE THAT AGAIN COSTS OF DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND OUTFITTING THAT IS NOT. YOU KNOW I THINK THEY HAVE AN ONGOING CONCERN ABOUT THE COST OF USE. AND THE USE OF THOSE MATERIALS BEING THINGS THAT THEY CAN ALSO USE IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF THEIR OWN BUSINESS INTERESTS.SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO CONTINUE TO CONSIDER.I THINK IF THEY WERE VERY VERY SPECIAL REQUESTS. THAT WOULD

[276:01] BE FOR NONPROFIT PURPOSES BUT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED BY SAINT JULIEN THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY COME BACK TO IT BUT I HAVE TO PURSUE IT.OKAY MAYBE IT'S WORTH REVISITING SOME OF THE STORM THAT WAS BEING DONE AND SEE IF ANY OF THAT SOME SCRIPT YEAR AND SOME OF IT MIGHT BE RELATED TO. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PROGRAMMING OF THE LIBRARY WITH THE STAGE.I MEAN YOU KNOW JUST AND SO IF ONE IS MORE BANQUETS PAY SOMEONE ONE IS MORE PERFORMANCE AT THE THIS HAPPENS IN A VACUUM BUT ANYTHING ELSE FROM US.I AM SO BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK.WE WILL ATTEMPT TO CONCLUDE THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE BACK BEFORE YOU HOPEFULLY IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF TWENTY NINETEEN. THEN I THINK TO SOME MORE INTERNAL OUTREACH TO OUR PEERS MY FEW DEPARTMENTS TO FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THEY'D LIKE TO SEE HIS WORK. AND IF

[277:00] YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS IN BETWEEN DON'T HESITATE TO LET YOU KNOW HOW FREE AND YOU ARE A TWITTER ER DONE KIND OF PERSON.THIS IS BROUGHT DOWN MANY OF THIS IS BECAUSE THEY STOPPED. MANY A PERSON BEFORE YOU SO THIS COULD BE THIS IT IS A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE BEFORE ME AND JUST CATCH A THANK YOU.WE HAVE UM ONE TO MINUTE UPDATE FOR YA'LL. SORRY DUE TO DELAYS HERE WILL BUY ONE GIVE OR JUST A REAL QUICK UPDATE ON THE DOCTOR CALLED TRANSPORTATION FUNDING APPLICATIONS THE SUB REGIONAL FORUM MEETING THE FOLKS IN BOULDER COUNTY HAVE COME TOGETHER AND DECIDED ON A FEW APPLICATIONS FOR REGIONAL FUNDING SO THERE IS A REGIONAL FUNDING TO LOCAL FUNDING POOL FOR SUBMITTING FOR REGIONAL FUNDING.IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT FOR BUS RAPID TRANSIT STUDY ON TWO EIGHTY SEVEN. OF A LARGER AMOUNT FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF THE STUDY AND PRELIMINARY DESIGN FOR

[278:00] BUS RAPID TRANSIT ALONG HIGHWAY SEVEN RAP O AVENUE.SO MOVING THAT FORWARD AND THEN A BIGGER AMOUNT FOR. ONE NINETEEN BUS RAPID TRANSIT FIRST PHASE WHICH WOULD BE FOCUSED ON THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT HIGHWAY FIFTY TWO ND AND TWENTIETH STREET COURT NORTH OF PEARL. STREET IN LONGMONT HELP THE BUSES GET THROUGH TO. THOSE OF THE THREE PROJECTS WERE PLAYING FOR FROM THE LOCAL FOR THE REGIONAL FUNDING POOL WE COULD GET ORDERED ZERO TWO THREE OF THOSE THREE STRAIGHT AND MIKE LEE. BUT I WILL KEEP Y'ALL UPDATED ON THE PERSON THAT WE FIND OUT ABOUT. THE ART OF DELAYING THE APPROVAL UNTIL AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTIONS TO COME SEE HOW WHETHER TRANSPORTATION BALLOT MEASURES ARE GETTING PAST HIM SO THINK THE EARLIEST WOULD BE DECEMBER.MIKE THE FIRST

[279:01] QUARTER NEXT. YEAR AND WE GUAI OKAY ANYTHING ELSE ALL SO THE POSTS ARE WITH NOW IS GOING TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE RTD VOTE ON TUESDAY THREE SOUL.WE NOW HAVE A LOW INCOME FORTY PERCENT DISCOUNT AND A SEVENTY PERCENT DISCOUNT ON USE AND ARE NINETEEN YEA. FROM THE COST OF THE COE COLLEGE AND NICO PASSES WHEN CUP IS GOING TO BE GOING UP. OOH SO THAT'S IT IN AND COULD UTILISE SET OUT TO SEE YOU WHAT HAPPENED WITH THEM AND THEIR STUDENTS AND THEIR ECO PASS.WELL THE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT. THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PASS PROGRAM WORKING GROUP COME UP WITH THAT WAS GOING TO CAP THE INCREASE BY

[280:00] TWENTY THOUSAND WAS NOT MAINTAINED. AND SO THAT IT'S GOING TO GO UP AND A REASONABLE AMOUNT AND THERE'S A LOT OF SPECULATION THAT. IT MAY NOT BE AFFORDABLE TO THE UNIVERSITY AND THAT THE LAW THAT IT MAY NOT EXIST AND SO THAT WE WOULD BE FACED.FACING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC COMING IN.PEOPLE JUST DRIVING AND SAME GOES FOR THE ECO PASSES. AND IT WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF BAD NEWS ON THAT WAS THAT THE DOWNTOWN BOULDER IS PLACED INTO THE SAME SERVICE LEVEL. AS DOWNTOWN DENVER WITH THE PRICE IS ADJUSTED UP HAS ACCORDINGLY SO THAT THE DOWNTOWN THE PASSES ARE LOOKING TO GET A VERY LARGE RATE INCREASES WILL. BE ON THE CAGE IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD.WELL IT'S NOT THAT I KNOW THEM THE NEWS IS MIXED TRENDING BAD BUT THANK YOU

[281:00] FOR THE WORKING WORKING GROUP.I MEAN WHAT CAME OUT OF WORK IT WAS FOR TO GET IT'S A SHAME THAT DID NOT GET CARRIED FORTH INTACT.OKAY YEAH MUCH APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME SPAN I THINK SRI ANYTHING ELSE YET SO ERM I WAS SICK THE RCC MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR SENDING THEM TO US. AND TIME CAN YOU GIVE US UR STATUS ON WHERE THE DISCUSSIONS ARE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE DEVELOPER OF THE HILL OFF THE CUFF. I THINK YOU SAW AN EMAIL TODAY FROM THE DERAIL FAMILY REALLY THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION THEY HAVE SOLIDIFIED THE OWNERSHIP AGREEMENT.I THINK WE'RE FINE ON THAT.OK SO I GUESS EIGHT AM.I MAY NOT BE HERE IN OCTOBER SECOND.AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT THAT DISCUSSION IS FREE.IT WAS EDITED BY CAC THIS WEEK TO HAVE THAT

[282:00] DISCUSSION.UM I'M VERY MUCH MOVE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF IT SO I WOULD ESTIMATE THAT BE RESCHEDULED TILL WE CANNOT BE BEAT.YES LISA TO BRING THIS UP ALTHOUGH WE'RE LOSING PEOPLE RAPIDLY HERE BUT. WE HAVE SOME STUFF TO GET DONE RUNNING OUT TIME TO DO IT AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE A TOUGH SELL ON HIS OWN SEAT ON THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.MEETINGS AFTER THAT ON SO IT ENDS UP PUTTING IT OFF IF WE WANT STAFF TO DO TO GO THE STEPS WAITING FOR FEEDBACK BEFORE THEY GO AND CONTINUE DISCUSSIONS.THE WORD FACT THAT WE ARE EFFECTIVELY DELAYING SOMETHING IF WE WANT SOMETHING TO PROCEED IN SO MANY OUT JUST TO RECAP WHERE WE LEFT OFF.WE HAD A BIG LONG

[283:08] DISCUSSION TO LEAD OUR. PEOPLE EXPRESS THEMSELVES THE FOUR FOR ME SAID OK LEE SAM NEEDS TO WEIGH IN AND THAT'S AND OH BY THE WAY WHAT'S UP WITH A DEVELOPER AND OWNERS. THAT SELLS LEFT SO WANNA GET A SENSE FOR CAC SCHEDULING PURPOSES WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. I'LL JUST ADD WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAIL THAT AMY HAVE AN EMERGENCY GOING ON. THAT I HAVE TO WAKE WILL BE HERE ON THE SECOND I MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE HERE BUT IT DEPENDS ON. I DON'T GET INTO THE DETAILS BUT I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU OFFLINE.SIR RICHARD FRIEND OR STAND IN THE SOUL BE ON THE SECOND SUNDAY WILL BE ON THE NEXT TWO FULL COUNCIL MEETINGS AFTER THAT.

[284:05] SO THE EARLIEST WE COULD SCHEDULE FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION WE THINK IS THE SECOND MEETING IN NOVEMBER OR A NEED TO SLASH THE CITY FOR CINDY CINDY'S DONE.ONE BUSINESS MEETING AND STUDIES.OH OKAY OKAY SO THE FIRST MEETING OF MEMBERS OF POSSIBILITY WOULD BE NOVEMBER E T BECAUSE HE HAVE AN ELECTION ON NOVEMBER SIX. AND SO I PAY FOR AND SO I ASKED IF WE COULD MEET ON NOVEMBER EIGHT THAT IT SOLD THAT DELAY IS. FIVE WEEKS SIX WEEKS IN PURSUING THE JOINT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT CORRECT YES. I'D TAKE THAT DREAM IS A BIG DEAL IT WAS CLOSE I CAN TELL YOU MY THOUGHTS NOW ARE IRRELEVANT OR. THE PRACTICES OF

[285:03] THE DRESS MAY BE SHORT I'M GOING TO WRITE SOME HOTLINE QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND I THINK THAT WILL REVEAL. WHERE I'M SITTING BUT BUT I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TRADING TO THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER. AND NOW THE ADVICE THAT. I WOULD ALSO GREW SEEM TO WAIT BECAUSE WE WAITED FOR SAM WE PUT THIS OFF IN ORDER FOR HIM TO JOIN AND THEY ONLY THINK BECAUSE WE MADE THAT. DECISION IT'S ONLY FAIR TO THEM AND I MEAN WE'VE HAD A TRADITION FOR OUR. LASTS SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. THAT WE OFTEN WAIT FOR A FULL COUNCIL FOR REALLY WEIGHTY DECISIONS AND ONE THAT SHOWED ITSELF TO BE FOUR FOURS CLEARLY REALLY WEIGHTY SO I WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT A FULL COMPLEMENT.OK THANK YOU THAT'S VERY HELPFULLY MUCH ANYTHING ELSE IN THE PROCESS AND MEETING.

[286:02] DECISIONS WE MADE TONIGHT WERE THE CULMINATION OF TWO PROJECTS THAT HAVE LASTED NEARLY TEN YEARS AND WE GOT ABOUT TEN OR MORE MEANING I THINK IT'S VERY EFFICIENT. ACTUALLY MORNING AND CIVIC USE SO THAT ONE IN THERE AND WE ARE LIKE. PAT OURSELVES ON THE WAS THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE MANY PROJECTS AS WELL.