August 21, 2018 — City Council Regular Meeting
Date: August 21, 2018 Type: Regular Meeting
Meeting Overview
Regular meeting covering three major topics: the city's annual financial audit presentation, a diversity, equity, and inclusion initiative launching a partnership with GEAR (Government Alliance on Race and Equity), and an overview of the process to update the Human Rights Ordinance addressing discrimination in housing and employment. The second reading of the Human Rights Ordinance was removed from the agenda and replaced with an update discussion. Transcript cuts off mid-discussion during the Human Rights Ordinance section.
Key Items
Annual Audit — Unqualified Opinion (Best Possible)
- Auditors: Clifton Larson Allen; re-appointed for 2018 financials
- Zero material weaknesses in internal controls
- Two significant deficiencies identified (both grant-related):
- 2016: Overstated receivables related to grant revenue
- Recording errors where grant balances were recorded twice
- Improvements implemented: monthly meetings between Central Finance and Transportation/Housing departments; quarterly grant reconciliations (previously year-end only); enhanced auditor training; revamped grant committee
- Management letter items reduced from 14 (prior year) to 7 (this year); 5 of 7 already addressed
- City received Government Finance Officers Association Certificate for Excellence in Financial Reporting
- Popular Annual Financial Report published for public transparency
- Audit Committee Chair: Professor Frederick (accounting professor, CPA, former KPMG auditor)
GEAR Partnership — Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Initiative
- Prompted by three Daily Camera articles and request from Council Agenda Committee
- Partnership with GEAR (Government Alliance on Race and Equity), a program of Race Forward (largest multi-racial racial justice nonprofit in the U.S.)
- GEAR has grown from 6 original members to 91 member jurisdictions in 4 years; works in 151 jurisdictions
- Phase 1 scope:
- September: Form support structure; create Chief Equity Officer position (to extend through 2019)
- October–November: Half-day racial equity training for Council and senior leadership
- GEAR's methodology: Normalize, Operationalize, Organize
- Normalize: common language and understanding of racial equity
- Operationalize: use racial equity tools to identify institutional bias
- Organize: external community engagement and internal champions
- Presenting: Amalia Alec Ron Morris — West Region Manager covering 7 states (Colorado, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah, Hawaii)
- Examples: Fairfax County "One Fairfax" resolution; Oakland racial equity indexes with community transparency platform
- Next step: Amalia to gather community member and leadership contacts for context-setting research
Human Rights Ordinance Update Process
- Second reading of Ordinance A-2409 (prohibition of discrimination in housing, employment, and accommodations) removed from tonight's agenda
- Current crisis: Section 8 voucher holders' leases not renewed, causing tenant displacement
- Response actions:
- Case management support from Housing and Human Services Department
- Partnership with Boulder Housing Partners to navigate Section 8 voucher process
- BORAH (Boulder Area Rental Housing Association) — sent emails to 400+ membership contacts; providing case management and outreach
- Seeking security deposit assistance through APPA
- First engagement meeting: July 18, 2018; identified need for extensive education
- Questions being addressed: immigration-related issues (distinguishing from Denver's source-of-income approach); what landlords can ask regarding documentation for undocumented individuals; financial clarifications (Section 8 vouchers covering 100% of rent = no income verification needed)
- Transcript cuts off mid-discussion
Outcomes and Follow-Up
- Financial statements approved; Clifton Larson Allen re-appointed as auditors for 2018
- Zero material weaknesses; management items reduced 14→7 with 5 already addressed; GFOA Certificate received
- GEAR partnership begins September 2018; organizational equity strategy development underway
- Chief Equity Officer position to be created October–November 2018; extending through 2019
- Half-day racial equity training for Council and senior leadership scheduled October–November 2018
- Human Rights Ordinance second reading deferred; focus on resolving Section 8 displacement crisis
- Boulder Housing Partners, BORAH, and city staff providing case management for displaced tenants
Date: 2018-08-21 Body: City Council Type: Regular Meeting Recording: YouTube
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Transcript
Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.
[5:24] COUNCILMEMBER BRACKETCARLISLE HERE ON OUT HERE.JONES MARCEL NAGEL WEAVER CASE HERE.YOUNG MARE WE HAVE FORMED GREAT.I'M JUST A NOTE TO COUNSEL WE HAVE THIS WEIRD THING GOING ON WITH THE MICS TONIGHT SO WE ARE SHARING. WHICH DURING THESE MOBILE MIKE'S SO THAT WHEN ONE OF THEM RUNS OUT WE CAN SHARE THE NEXT ROUND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY TO JUST BE FOREWARNED.WE HAVE
[6:10] JUST A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE OPERATE IN ONE IS WE NEED TO AMEND THE AGENDA AND THAT IS SO GOING TO MARRY.ERM OKAY THE EMOTION IS TO TAKE OFF. ON THE AGENDA ITEM FIVE C WHICH IS THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE A TWO FOR NINE ABOUT PROHIBITION OF DISCRIMINATION IN HOUSING EMPLOYMENT AND ACCOMMODATIONS. ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT WHOLE ISSUE IN A FEW MINUTES BUT THE AGENT OF CHANGE WOULD BE A TAKE IT OFF FOR. THE SECOND READING TODAY AND THEN THE SECOND TO MANAGE A GENDER CHANGE WOULD BE TO ADD AN ITEM ONE C WHICH IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS TO UPDATE THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE.THE PROHIBITION OF DISCRIMINATION IN HOUSING EMPLOYMENT ACCOMMODATIONS.
[7:24] SECOND ANY DISCUSSION OF THOSE IN FAVOR THE AGENDA CHANGE IN ITS UNANIMOUS WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO A SPECIAL PRESENTATION OF KARATE BY PROFESSOR FREDERICK.THEY AREFOR ME.
[8:02] FOR ITAPPARENTLY OUR MICROPHONE ISSUES EXTEND TO YOU AS WELL. THE TWO OF THE I AM DAVID HAS SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE A PLEASURE OF COUNSEL.THIS YEAR'S COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. CARLIE OL' WEAVER AND YATES AND MITES AND MYSELF WE'RE BRINGING FORTH MOTIONS BUT I BELIEVE FOR US CONSENT AGENDA. THE FIRST IS TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE CITY OF BOULDER'S ANNUAL FINANCIALS AND THE AUDITOR'S REPORT ON THE SECOND MOTION IS. TO
[9:05] APPOINT RE APPOINT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE OF CLIFTON LARSON ALLEN TO DO THE TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT FINANCIALS WE WERE PRETTY HEAVILY WITH THE CITY'S MANAGER JANE BROUGHT IT HOME.CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER CHERYL PUT KELLY CONTROLLER AND PENNY AN ASSISTANT CONTROLLER RON CAME OVER WITHOUT THEM I MIGHT BE A LOSS.I HAVE A HUGE THANK YOU TO THEM AND I'M THOROUGHLY AMAZED AT THE CURRENT COMMITTEE AND THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED BEFORE HARD.COUNCIL MEMBERS WORK ON THIS COMMITTEE ACCOUNTING CAN KIND OF WE CALL OUR PRESENTATION TODAY. OUR IS GOING TO BE BOTH THE AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
[10:00] CHERYL KELLY SHARING AN OVERVIEW BULLETS OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS YEAR. CITY MANAGER FINANCE STAFF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PREPARE THESE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTS THE AUDITOR'S CLIFTON LARSON ALLEN IS RESPONSIBILITY IS TO EXPRESS AN OPINION ON THE FINANCIALS AS THEY PRESENT EARLY OR NOT. THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE FINANCIAL REPORTS THE AUDITOR'S THEIR WORK AND THE WORKFLOW THAT PRODUCES THESE FINANCIALS. FIRST THE AUDITORS THEY HAVE GIVEN THAT THE CITY OF BOULDER'S ANNUAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND OPINIONS THAT THESE FINANCIALS TO PRESENT FAIRLY THAT'S THE BEST OPINIONS ANY ORGANIZATION CAN RECEIVE THEIR FINANCIAL REPORT PRESENTED FAIRLY.SY KEPT ON
[11:09] THE AUDITOR'S COMMUNICATE WITH THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND MANAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ON FINDINGS THAT THEY NOTICED. AND THEY PRESENT WHAT IS KNOWN AS A MANAGEMENT LETTER TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AT THE HOME OF THE AUDIT THIS YEAR OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE MET WITH THE AUDITOR'S. THREE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THEY REPORT. WHEN THEY FIND DEFICIENCIES IN THE WORKFLOW WITH THE SWORD OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS INFORMATION FLOWS THROUGH TO THE FINANCIALS TO BE MISSED. ALOT TIMES THEIR HEADS UP FEATURE SOME THINGS WE'VE NOTICED BEST PRACTICES THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER. THE OTHER IN POINTS IS NOW IN ACCOUNTING AS A MATERIAL
[12:00] WEAKNESS IN THE AUDITOR'S OPINION. THE WORKFLOW WHICH THE UN AN ORGANIZATION DOES SO FAIRLY COMPROMISED SUCH THAT THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION IS LIKELY TO BE MISSTATED NOT BE RELIED UPON THIS YEAR.CLIFTON LARSON ALLEN REPORTED ZERO MATERIAL WEAKNESS. THEIR REPORT TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS MOSTLY THE LEVEL OF EFFICIENCY SET TO APPEAR SOMETHING SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO. PERFORM BETTER OR YOU SHOULD CONSIDER WITH REGARD TO HELPING YOUR WORKFLOW PRODUCE RELIABLE FINANCIALS THAT ALL CAN USE. IN OUR TEAM TEAM AND THE PRESENTATION AND
[13:00] CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE HOLY THROUGH THE ASSIGNMENT FAITHFUL APPOINTING SOME OF THESE HATS UPS EFFICIENCIES THAT THE AUDIT REPORT TO. THE HOUSE ALL MY NANA CHERYL TALLEY AND THE CFO HERE AT THE CITY AND I WANT TO START OFF BY. ONCE AGAIN THINKING PROFESSOR FREDERICK FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HE DOES FOR US IS THE CITY HE HELPED STAFF A LIE IN BETWEEN AMARO AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETINGS. PROVIDES RECOMMENDATIONS WE HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AS IT RELATES TO THE AUDIT SO THANK YOU ON AND AGAIN THANKS FOR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.SO ONWE HAD TWO SIGNIFICANT EFFICIENCIES. AND BOTH OF THESE REALLY RELATED TO GRANTS HERE AT THE CITY AND HOW IT WORKS IS GRANTS ARE REALLY DE CENTRALIZED IN THE DEPARTMENT'S. HONORS PROGRAM MANAGERS AND THERE'S FINANCIAL ANALYST WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF RUNNING THE GRANTS MAKING SURE THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH ALL ASPECTS OF THE GRANTS. CAN ALSO DO BEING IN PROVIDING US IN CENTRAL FINANCE ON THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT WE NEED FOR THE OT ED ON.SO BOTH OF OUR
[14:12] SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES OCCURRED ON. RELATED TO THESE GRANTS IN THE FIRST WINE WAS A SITUATION IN TWENTY SIXTEEN WHERE WE OVERSTATED OUR RECEIVABLES SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN PLAIN ENGLISH. THAT MEANS WE SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE GRANT REVENUE COMING IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN. AND THEN WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP HAVING SO WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT PRIOR PERIOD ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE OF BAD. ON SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR ISSUES THE SECOND ISSUE RELATED. TO THE SAME TYPE OF THING OF RECORDING THERE WAS SOME BALANCES THAT WERE RECORDED TWICE SO. THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THESE ISSUES IS THAT CITY STAFF ACTUALLY FOUND THE ERRORS IN THE PROCESS OF THE AUDIT. BUT WE FOUND THEM AT A POINT THAT IT WAS REALLY TOO LATE AND ON THE AUDITORS NEEDED TO REPORT ON THEM.SO WHAT ARE WE DOING
[15:07] TO MAKE SURE THAT. WE BETTER OURSELVES IN THESE AREAS SO WE'RE FIRST STARTING WITH BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH DEPARTMENT SO CENTRAL FINANCE STAFF. ONCE A MONTH IS NOW GOING IN MEETING WITH EACH OF OUR MAJOR GRANT APARTMENT SO THAT WOULD BE TRANSPORTATION AND HOUSING. AND GOING OVER COMPLIANCE ISSUES IN THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. ARE ALSO DOING MORE REGULAR RECONCILIATION SO IN THE PAST THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD DO THEIR RECONCILIATION THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND CENTRAL FINANCE WOULD REALLY ONLY GET INVOLVED AT THE ATA TIME. ORGANIST ARE DOING IS EVERY QUARTER. ON WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY DO RECONCILIATION OF THE GRANTS AND WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOUND THAT SO IF WE IF THERE IS SOMETHING TO CATCH WILL CATCH UP. MUCH SOONER THAN WE DID THIS YEAR. AND THIRD WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE TRAINING. IN THE PAST WE BROUGHT OUR AUDITORS IN TO TRAIN THE DEPARTMENT'S STAFF
[16:00] AND GRANDSON WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. WE DO IT EVERY YEAR A YEAR AND IS WELL. AND THEN FINALLY WERE LOOKING AT REVAMPING OUR CURRENT GRANT COMMITTEE SO THE CITY HAS A GRANT COMMITTEE MADE UP OF INTERNAL STAFF. AND WE REALLY WANNA LOOK FOR THE BEST PRACTICES OF THOSE COMMITTEES TO. NOT ONLY ENSURE THAT WE ARE ON REQUIRING THE TYPE OF COMPLIANCE THAT WE NEED BUT ALSO DUE TO GRANTS THAT WERE GETTING ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S PRIORITIES.ART IS OR SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL ON COMMITMENT THAT WE KNOW THAT. THE DEPARTMENT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AND HOPE TO HAVE A REVAMPED COMMITTEE ON IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. IN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT RELATES TO OUR MANAGEMENT LADDER. AND WE HAD SAT IN ITE ISSUES AGAIN FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE
[17:00] LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY HAD FOURTEEN SO. ALIKE TO FAME AND ADAM LANE THE CHIEF. SECURITY OFFICER AND HIS STAFF. AT REALLY FIXING A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD AN OF THE SEVEN THAT WERE NOTED THIS YEAR TO HAVE ALREADY BEEN CRACKED AND SO. THEY'RE REALLY MAKING SOME GREAT PROGRESS ON THOSE ISSUES IS LAO ANY QUESTIONS DO YOU THINK YOU MAKE A SHOW I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE WITH TWO COMMENTS. THESE ARE MINE NOT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE.THESE ARE MY FIRST WITH RED LEASH BROKE RELATES TO THE FINANCIALS AND THE AUDIT.I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW MUCH THIS CITY OF BOULDER CARES.CITY MANAGER EARL AM WRONG AND PRODUCING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OR RELIABLE ACCURATE TRANSPARENT.I BELIEVE COUNCIL
[18:01] FEELS THAT WAY TOO.BASED UPON MY WORK ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT TO YOU OR IT'S AN UNBELIEVABLE NUMBER OF YEARS.ONE THIS CERTIFICATE FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING GIVEN BY THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.IT'S A HOLY WAR FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TRYING TO PROVIDE USERS WITH HELPFUL INFORMATION. WITH REGARD TO MY SECOND COMMENT A LOT OF YOU KNOW ME YOU PROFESSIONALLY I'M AN ACCOUNTING PROFESSOR. I AM A
[19:01] CPA WAS AN AUDITOR WITH KPMG I WORKED IN WASHINGTON D C. MY PHD TRAINING IS AT UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN STUDY JUDGMENT DECISION MAKING STUDY EXPERTISE WAS CURIOUS WHAT A MATCH FOR HER WAS MADE UP MY CAREER INVOLVED.EVERY FALL AND TO STUDYING RACE AND ETHNICITY.MY GROUP OF STUDY OF REAL SMALL PIECE OF MY CO AUTHORS RUTH CHAVEZ WAS WITH RHETORIC AT METRO STATE UNIVERSITY AND WILLIAM KEMP FOR UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO BOULDER.WE'VE COME TO SUMMARIZE OUR RESEARCH WILL STOP AND QUESTION.ALAS OUR AGE AS ACADEMICS IS PROBABLY NEAR THE END FROM THE BEGINNING. SO WE PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER OUR OWN QUESTIONS WHICH I HOPE YOU COME IN SECOND. BUT WE HOPE TO LEAVE
[20:04] THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED WITH US WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR LITTLE STUDIES. TECHNOLOGY MAY BE OURSELVES BUT WE HOPE THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR CONFUSION LACK OF UNDERSTANDING WITH REGARD TO RACE AND ETHNICITY. AND PERHAPS UNCONSCIOUS BIASES OR LAZY STEREOTYPES AS WELL ARE SEVEN QUESTIONS WHAT DO YOU SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMEONE. WHAT RACE WHAT ETHNICITY.WHAT DO YOU WANT OTHERS TO SEE WHEN THEY LOOK AT YOU WHAT RACE WHAT ETHNICITY.WHAT IF THEY GET IT WRONG.SHOW SOME OF YOU KNOW ME POLITICALLY. I'M AN INDEPENDENT I BELIEVE AS AN AUDITOR OF TRIED TO BE AN OUTSIDE MEMBER SHOULD BE INDEPENDENT.PROFESSIONALLY
[21:08] SKEPTICAL MAINTAIN AND YOU COMPLAIN SO I APOLOGIZE AFTER THE FACT FOR GOING OFF POINT. BUT AS COOL AS ACCOUNTING AND AUDIT IN OUR HEAD AND THEY'RE COOL AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE. REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO DISCUSS NEXT IS MORE SO PLEASE FIND ANSWERS PLEASE FIND SOLUTIONS.THANK YOU THANK YOU PROFESSOR DID AND RETURNED TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE DOES SPEAK.SAM JUST LIKE THE EFFECT THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID. IN PROFESSOR FREDERICK IS WELL THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR DECADES OF SERVICE TO THE CITY. AND I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE A QUICK ADJUSTMENT THAT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT MADE TO THE DEFICIENCY FINDINGS
[22:00] THE SMALLER MINOR BUT THEY'RE IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO FOLLOW UP ON PARTICULARLY THE GRANTS OFFICE.SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS COULD WORK TO SHARE FAIRLY SMOOTH. JUST A COUPLE OPEN ON SAM'S COMMENT UMM THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR THE AUDIT COMMITTEE WAS ON TWO YEARS THREE YEARS AGO.UM AND UM IT WAS A SCENE FROM. NO ORGANIZATION AS BIG AS THIS IS IS NEVER GOING TO HAVE ANY. IS NEVER TO HAVE NO DEFICIENCIES THERE'S ALWAYS GOING BE SOME DEFICIENCY SOMETHING TO WORK ON WITH OTHER ITE. OR PROCESS HE'S A SO SO FOR THAT MY EXPERIENCE ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE HAS BEEN THAT WHEN THOSE DEFICIENCIES ARE CALLED TO SEE THAT INFERTILITY OFTEN. FIND THE DEFICIENCIES THEMSELVES BUT EVEN IF THE ORDERS ON THE DEFICIENCIES TO GET RIGHT ON THEM AND FIND SOLUTIONS AND THEY DON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. AND SO WE WILL MAKE WILL MAKE MISTAKES IN THE FUTURE. WILL BE NEW MISTAKES AND WE DON'T REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES AND ORGANIZATION TAKES ITS FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY VERY VERY SERIOUSLY GIVES ME A LOT OF COMFORT HOUSE MEMBER.I
[23:03] JUST LIKE TO KNOW ALL OF THAT THANK YOU FOR THE AND THE STELLAR WORK THAT STANDS THE NEW PERSON ON THE COMMITTEE IT WAS. A PLEASURE TO SIT IN ON AND LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION THAT DOWN CANS FIRE BETWEEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND PROFESSOR FREDERICK.SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH LISA AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THANKS TO OUR AUDITOR SAYS WELL I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB GETTING USE TO. SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE A LOT AND I JUST PASSED A WIN TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO PROFESSOR FREDERICK IN ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT. YOU HAVE PUT INTO THIS AND IT'S NOT EASY AND WE REALLY DEPEND ON YOU AND THEN I WENT JUST GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR DEPARTMENT AND ENSURE ALL THE INFO.SHE'S JUST AWESOME ENRON AND SO I JUST WENT BROKE IN. AND THE THING THAT'S SO COOL ABOUT
[24:00] THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IS JUST WHAT BOB HAS SAID YOU KNOW NONE OF US ARE PERFECT BUT WHEN WE IDENTIFY A FLAW.WE IMMEDIATELY CEASE UPON THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND CORRECTED AND THAT IS CRITICAL FOR US IN THAT FIGHT WHERE WE HAVE SUCH GOOD RESULTS. AND WHICH ALLOWS US TO BORROW SOME FRIENDS AT MUCH LOWER INTEREST RATES AND SO OUR FINANCES ARE ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE MOST IF NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. AFTER OUR EXECUTIVES AND BOARD APPOINTMENTS BUT ANYWAY I JUST THINK ALL THE TIME IT IS NOT AN EASY ASSIGNMENT AND YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU DOING IN NIGHT.I'M IMPRESSED WITH YOUR YEAR AND SEVEN QUESTIONS ABOUT RACE AND ETHNICITY AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND I ASK THAT YOU SEND US. YOUR GROUP'S QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE
[25:00] REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE FLAWS AS WELL AND SEE WHAT KIND OF CORRECTIONS WE CAN MAKE A THANK YOU. THANK YOU LISA AND THAT IS A GREAT SEGWAY TO OUR NEXT TOPIC BUT BEFORE WE GET THERE TO POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY. THERE IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY AND FOR EVERYBODY ALL ARE PUBLIX AND ALL THE BUSINESSES AND GROUPS IN TOWN UNDERSTANDING OUR FINANCES. THIS IS A REPORT THAT THE CITY PUT OUT IT'S CALLED THE POPULAR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT EXPLAINS. WHAT WE DO WITH ALL THE MONEY THAT YOU'LL GIVE US ENTRUST US WITH AN EYE. ON THE WEBSITE YOU AND SO I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THAT'S A RESOURCE OUT THERE. AND WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO AN UPDATE ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND EQUITY CANNOT ENTER THE CITY MANAGER.GREAT THANK YOU SO MUCH I REALLY APPRECIATE DOCTOR FREDERICKS REMARKS TO KIND OF KICK US OFF HERE. A COUPLE OF WEEKS
[26:00] AGO. THERE WAS A SERIES OF THREE ARTICLES IN THE DAILY CAMERA AND FOLLOWING THAT THE COUNCIL AGENDA COMMITTEE ASKED. ALL STAFF AND ME TO REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO THE STATUS OF OUR WORK ON RACIAL EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY. IN THE CITY ORGANIZATION AND WE'RE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS REPORT TONIGHT SO. AS YOU WELL KNOW AS AN ORGANIZATION WE CHAMPION THE VALUE OF ARE STACKED IN A PARTICULAR RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY INCLUSION AND EQUITY THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. BUT AS WE KIND OF LOOK AT OURSELVES IN THE MORE CRITICAL LIGHT.WE KNOW THAT WE CAN TO A BETTER JOB AND I FEEL LIKE THE COUNCIL TO HAS BEEN A CHAMPION OF THESE THINGS.IN PARTICULAR IN RECENT YEARS ADOPTING THE LIVING WAGE AND FOCUS SEEN IN OTHER WAYS ON SOCIAL EQUITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT THE THING IS THAT IN OUR ORGANIZATION AS I JUST MENTIONED I THINK WE CAN DO EVEN MORE. SO AS A RESULT OF
[27:03] THAT WE RECENTLY REACHED OUT TO AN ORGANIZATION CALLED THE GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE ON RACE AND EQUITY. CALLED CARE WHICH IS SORT OF AN ACRONYM FOR THEM. THEIR PROGRAM OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED RACE FORWARD WHICH IS THE LARGEST MULTI RACIAL RACIAL JUSTICE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IMPACT.MAYBE THEIR ENTIRE MISSION IS TO MOVE PAST THE GOOD INTENTIONS AND WE ALL HAVE PLENTY OF THOSE TO ACTION AS A WORKS CITED ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM AND REALLY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER INTO. PARTNERSHIPS SCOPE OF WORK WITH HERE. IS ONE THAT WE RECENTLY FINALIZED AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE FIRST PHASE IS WORKING ON AN ORGANIZATIONAL EQUITY STRATEGY. SO THAT WE CAN BECOME MORE PROGRESSIVE AND MORE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE CAN DO BETTER AND TRYING TO INTEGRATE THE STRATEGY INTO THE FABRIC OF OUR ORGANIZATION.EVERY SINGLE DAY
[28:08] WE'RE COMMITTED TO CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT AND LEARNING AS I SAID BEFORE INTERACTION. WITH US TONIGHT AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF GEAR AND GOING TO CALL HER UP IN JUST A MOMENT TO. INTRODUCE HER ORGANIZATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT THE OTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION TO USE LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE ARE GOING TO UNDERTAKE STARTING IN SEPTEMBER. ON WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WORK ON FORMING A SUPPORT STRUCTURE WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION SO THAT WE WHO UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE STRATEGY THAT WE NEED TO CREATE. AND THIS WILL BE A PRECURSOR TO AN EARLY TWENTY EIGHTEEN. LOOKING FOR A CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER FOR THE CITY A FOLDER SO. THAT POSITION IS ONE THAT WILL BE ADDED OR FOR EXTENDED INTO TWENTY NINETEEN AND FILLED THEM PERIOD OF TIME. IN THE OCTOBER NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME WE HAVEN'T YET DETERMINED THE DAYS HERE WILL BE HELPING US WITH A HALF DAY TRAINING ON RACIAL EQUITY.I
[29:06] WANT TO SAY TO COUNCIL THAT EACH EVERYONE OF YOU ARE INVITED TO COME TO THAT TRAINING WITH SENIOR LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZATION WILL PEOPLE BE PROVIDING YOU WITH INFORMATION ABOUT WHEN THAT OCCURS.SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT FOR NOW I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AMALIA ALEC RON MORRIS WHOSE REPRESENTATIVE OF GEAR AND SHE'S IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY. AMALIA CAN COME UP AND SPEAK TO YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT ONE CARES ABOUT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY BEFORE I JOINED CARE I SPENT EIGHTEEN YEARS WORKING FOR THE CITY OF PORTLAND MAINE BASED IN PORTLAND OREGON.SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A FLASHBACK FOR ME ANYWAY I AM A STAFF MEMBER IS BARE.I AM THE WEST REGION
[30:01] MANAGER WEST REGION IS SEVEN STATES INCLUDING COLORADO CALIFORNIA ARIZONA NEW MEXICO NEVADA UTAH HAWAII.I MAY HAVE MISSED ONE BUT YOU GET THE PICTURE WE HAVE FIVE SUPER REGIONS.THERE'S A SOUTH REGION EAST REGION OF MID WEST NORTHWEST AND WEST.WE ALSO HAVE EIGHT CALIFORNIA PROJECT MANAGER BECAUSE CALIFORNIA. BE SUCH A LARGE STATE AND ALSO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK GOING ON IN CALIFORNIA SO WE NEEDED TO REALLY FOCUS ON MOVING THAT WORK FORWARD CARE IS FOUR YEARS OLD.IT WAS BORNE FROM THE RECENT SOCIAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE AT THE CITY OF SEATTLE AND IT BECAME A COLLABORATIVE PROJECT BETWEEN THE HAAS INSTITUTE FOR FAIR AND INCLUSIVE SOCIETY AND RACE FORWARD.ACTUALLY IT WAS CENTER FOR SOCIAL INCLUSION FIRST AND THEN THIS PAST YEAR RACE FORWARD AND CENTER FOR SOCIAL INCLUSION MERGED FEELING LIKE. THERE WAS A
[31:05] NEEDED GIVEN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT WE ARE ALL WORKING AND TO CREATE. LEVERAGE POINTS AND TO FIND WAYS TO MAXIMIZE RESOURCES AND SO COMING TOGETHER SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT THING TO DO HAIR AS I SAID FOUR YEARS OLD HAS GONE FROM HAVING FOUR OR. I THINK IT WAS SIX ORIGINAL MEMBERS. TO HAVING NINETY ONE MEMBERS TODAY. AND WE ALSO DO WORK IN HUNDRED AND FIFTY ONE DIFFERENT JURISDICTION SO WE WORK WITH MEMBER JURISDICTIONS AND WE ALSO WORK WITH NON MEMBER JURISDICTIONS. CARE IS EIGHT HERE NETWORK OF JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE WORKING TO ADVANCE RACIAL EQUITY.WE BELIEVE THAT'S RACIAL EQUITY OR RACIAL INEQUITIES WERE INTENTIONALLY CREATED HISTORICALLY AND THAT GOVERNMENT PLAYED A ROLE IN INTENTIONALLY CREATING THOSE DISPARITIES AND INEQUITIES.
[32:01] THEREFORE WE CANNOT ADVANCE RACIAL EQUITY AND ELIMINATE THOSE DISPARITIES WITHOUT GOVERNMENT AND SO CARES FOCUS IS GOVERNMENTS THE SEC.THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS TO OUR BEST PRACTICE WHICH IS NORMALIZE OPERATION ALLIES IN ORGANIZED.SO IF YOU WALK IN A ROOM IN THEIR TWO HUNDRED PEOPLE IN YOU ASK THEM ALL TO DEFINE RACIAL EQUITY THEY CAN GIVE YOU A HUNDRED DIFFERENT. DEFINITIONS AND SO PART OF WHAT WE START WITH IS NORMALIZATION OF CONVERSATIONS ON RACE SO THAT EVERYONE HAS THE . ANALYSIS THE SAME LANGUAGE AND THAT THAT FORMS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE WORK THAT COMES NEXT.WE REVIEW OUR HISTORY IN TERMS OF GOVERNMENT IN THE UNITED STATES AND WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE IMPLICIT AND EXPLICIT RACISM WE TALK ABOUT. INTERPERSONAL RACISM
[33:00] REALLY FOCUS ON INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE TRANSFORMATION HAPPENS. AND THEN WE MOVE INTO OPERATION ALLIES IN ORGANIZED WHICH ARE TWO PIECES THAT ACTUALLY MOVE SIMULTANEOUSLY TOGETHER. AND FIGHT OPERATION LIES WE MEAN WE INTRODUCED RACIAL EQUITY TOOL. WE WORK WITH JURISDICTIONS TO PRACTICE USING THAT TOOL PRACTICE IDENTIFYING INSTANCES IN THEIR JURISDICTIONS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE IMPLICIT INSTITUTIONAL BIAS HAPPENING. THAT LEADS TO AN EQUITABLE OUTCOMES. AND THEN APPLY THE TOOLS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SHIFT THAT WE TALK ABOUT ENGAGING COMMUNITY AND THE CRITICAL NATURE OF BEING ABLE TO FIND. FIXES FOR INEQUITIES WITH ALONGSIDE PEOPLE THAT EXPERIENCE THOSE INEQUITIES. AND TO ORGANIZE IS NOT JUST EXTERNAL ORGANIZING WITH COMMUNITY BUT ALSO INTERNALLY ORGANIZING WITHIN THE JURISDICTION WHERE ARE YOUR ALLIES WHO ARE YOUR CHAMPIONS. AND HAD TO BRING
[34:06] PEOPLE ALONG TOGETHER TOWARDS MAKING CHANGE INSTITUTIONAL A SOUL I WILL LEAVE THAT FAIR AND OPEN IT UP IN CASE YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME TO USE.THANK YOU MOLLY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.I DO HAVE A QUESTION YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ORGANIZATION HAS GROWN TO LIKE NINETY CITIES AND IN THE FOUR YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN AROUND.WHAT ARE THE INITIAL STEPS THAT YOU SEE THAT WORK AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A COMMON. APPROACH WITH AND ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS. SO THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IS THAT RACIAL INEQUITIES LOOK DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS AND THEREFORE THERE ISN'T ONE SAYING THAT WORKS AT A SPECIFIC JURISDICTION. THE COMING TOGETHER OF THE INSTITUTION AND THE COMMUNITY USING THE TOOLS AND HAVING THE FOUNDATION RESULTS IN WHAT WORKS THE BEST FOR
[35:00] THE SPECIFIC JURISDICTION.SO I COULD TELL YOU THAT FOR EXAMPLE A IN FAIRFAX COUNTY VIRGINIA THE U CITY COUNCIL JOINED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND PASSED. A RESOLUTION IN A DOCUMENT CALLED ONE FAIRFAX. WHICH TALKS ABOUT RACIAL EQUITY AND THE FACT THAT THE WILL OF THESE TWO LEGISLATIVE BODIES WAS THAT EVERYTHING THAT THESE TWO INSTITUTIONS DID HAVE TO HAVE THAT LAND SUPPLY TO. NOW FAIRFAX COUNTY HAS MOVED INTO ORGANIZING THEIR BRAINY THAT DOCUMENT OUT TO COMMUNITY AND SAYING. WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE IN ACTION HOW TO TWEAK OPERATIONAL I SAID SO IT ISN'T JUST A PIECE OF PAPER OR A REPORT THAT COLLECTS DUST.RIGHT SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING AT A JURISDICTIONAL LEVEL THERE'S PLACES THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER HEAD LIKE SAY OAKLAND CALIFORNIA.
[36:06] THEY JUST DEVELOPED WITH SOME FOUNDATION FUNDING A SERIES OF RACIAL EQUITY INDEXES FOR EACH OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES. AND THEY'VE DISCOVERED THAT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES THEY HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO SERVE ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE TO MITIGATE THE OUTCOMES THAT ARE HAPPENING AT COMMUNITY LEVEL THINGS LIKE HOUSING AND ANTI COMMUNITY DISPLACEMENT. AND SAFETY AND POLICE INTERACTION WITH COMMUNITY IN THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY HAVE NOW STARTED TO DEVELOP A WEB PLATFORM AND THAT IS ACCESSIBLE FROM COMMUNITY SIDE AS WELL AS INTERNALLY FROM THE JURISDICTIONAL SIDE. ALL THEIR DATA IS GOING IN THIS SPACE THAT IS GOING TO BECOME TRANSPARENT COMMUNITY CAN GO IN THERE THEY CAN MANIPULATE TO GET REPORTS OUT TO SEE HOW THE CITY IS DOING. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO APPROACH THE CITY TO SAY WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR INDICATOR.DID YOU SEE OR NOTICE IT.HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING ALL OF THEIR DATA AND
[37:00] MAKING IT COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT.SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES NINETY ONE JURISDICTIONS THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES ON. FOR THE MOST PART WHEN A JURISDICTION JOINS THE FIRST THING IS TO GET INTO THAT NORMALIZE OPERATION LIES ORGANIZE PEACE SO THAT. EVERYONE IN THE JURISDICTION HAS AN IDEA OF OK THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS HERE IS THE TOOL. AND HERE'S HOW WE COMMUNICATE ABOUT IT IN ORDER TO. BRING PEOPLE ALONG RATHER THAN BE DIVISIVE AND HERE'S THE PATH FORWARD FOR OUR SPECIFIC JURISDICTION WHICH WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE THE SAME. BEFORE WE WORK WITH THE JURISDICTION WE DO CONTEXT SETTING SO I WILL BE GETTING SOME NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS ORGANIZATIONS LEADERSHIP. AND LEADERSHIP INSIDE THE CITY. AND I WILL BE DOING SOME RESEARCH AND COLLECTING SOME
[38:00] DATA WE WILL ALSO COME IN AND START WITH A HALF DAY TRAINING. WHICH REALLY LAYS ALL OF THIS OUT FOR LEADERSHIP AS JANE MENTIONED. SO THAT LEADERSHIP GETS AN IDEA OF OH THIS IS WHY OUR CORE TEAM THE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING THIS ARE HELPING LEAD THE IMPLEMENTATION WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION.THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE LEARNING RIGHT SO IT GIVES LEADERSHIP THE SAME FOUNDATION FROM THAT WE ALSO GET INFORMATION FROM LEADERSHIP ABOUT CONCERNS AND VISION AND DIRECTION. SO THAT WE TAKE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. THE INTERVIEWS THAT WE DO IN ADVANCE OF THE HALF DAY WITH LEADERSHIP. COMBINE THAT INFORMATION AND THEN TAILOR THE TRAINING FOR YOUR CORE TEAM BASED ON THAT INFORMATION OR SEE HE STOP READING SO I THINK YOU ARE WELCOME.YOU ANYONE ELSEWELL I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND THIS IS LISA SAID IT WELL.THIS IS A
[39:04] CORE VALUE WE ALSO RECOGNIZE A LOT WORK TO DO AND STILL IT'S GOOD TO KEEP MOVING OR SELL.THANK YOU IN ADVANCE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHEN THE TRAINING IS IN SEEING IF WE CAN ALL PARTICIPATE.YES THAT'S A GREAT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME I'M REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH THE RELEASE IS HERE AND YOU'RE NOT ALONE.NINETY ONE JURISDICTIONS ARE TRAVERSING DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SAME JOURNEY THAT YOU MAY THINK YOU. LEARNED FROM CONTINUING IN THE SAME VEIN A TURN TO MARRY YOUNG AND KURT FOR HARBOR FOR THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS.O CLAY BANK AND TO UPDATE THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE ON THE POLICE MISSION OF DISCRIMINATION IN HOUSING EMPLOYMENT AND DONATIONS.WELL UNFORTUNATELY
[40:05] AFTER REPORTS THAT THE SITUATION THAT PERSISTS IN THE COMMUNITY HERO ROLE. OF MY NAME IS CLAY FONG AND I AM THE HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES MANAGER OF COMMUNITY RELATIONS IN THE OFFICE OF HUMAN RIGHTS.THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO REPORT THAT THE SITUATION THAT PRECIPITATED ON THE ORIGINAL POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION OF THE EMERGENCY ORDINANCE TONIGHT HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED.WE STILL DO HAVE SOME TENANTS OUT THERE THAT. DID THAT WE HAVE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER HOLDERS THAT DID NOT HAVE THEIR. USES RENEWED AND ESSENTIALLY THAT HAS LED TO AN ALL HANDS KIND OF INTERDISCIPLINARY EFFORT IF YOU WILL TO TRY TO FIND ALTERNATIVE HOUSING FOR THOSE FOLKS. THAT HAS GROWN OUT OF WHAT ESSENTIALLY WAS A WORKING GROUP. THAT CAME OUT OF OUR ENGAGEMENT AROUND THIS ISSUE A NETWORKING GROUP HAS BECOME A BIT OF AN ACTION GROUP SO IF I CAN TO SERVE BRIEFLY SAY WITH. THE PARTS ARE OF THAT. WE HAVE A FEW VERY VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT
[41:00] THE STRESSES OF MOVING AND TRYING TO FIND A PLACE FOR THEM ESSENTIALLY BY THE END OF THE MUD. SO TO BED AND WE HAVE FOLKS FROM OUR DEPARTMENT HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES ACTING ESSENTIALLY IN A SORT OF A CASE MANAGEMENT ROLE TO HELP THESE FOLKS FIND HOUSING.OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR PARTNERS BOULDER HOUSING PARTNERS WHICH HELPS A SORT OF NAVIGATE THE INTRICACIES OF SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER BUREAUCRACY.WE ALSO SOME PLAYERS THAT ARE TRADITIONALLY WE MAY NOT HAVE SEEN BEFORE IN ONE PLAYER IN THIS IS THE BOULDER AREA RENTAL HOUSING ASSOCIATION OR BORROW. FAR IT HAS ALSO STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE IS ALSO ACTING IN SORT OF A CASE MANAGEMENT ROLE THIS IS SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. WHICH INCLUDES HAVING A POINT OF CONTACT FOR HELP ASSIST THEM AS WELL AS I THINK NOWADAYS IT'S THE VIRTUAL. EQUIVALENT OF POUNDING THE PAVEMENT SENDING OUT LAST EMAIL TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP WHICH I UNDERSTAND THE BLAST E MAIL IS WELL OVER FOUR HUNDRED CONTACTS TO SEE IF ALTERNATIVE. HOUSING CAN BE FOUND FOR SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS. ARE ALSO TAPPING
[42:00] INTO OTHER RESOURCES A PLEA FOR A HAS BEEN TALKING TO APPA TO SEE IF THERE'S ASSISTANCE WITH SECURITY DEPOSITS BECAUSE. THAT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT HINDRANCE TO PEOPLE FINDING NEW HOUSING EVEN IF THEY HOLD A SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER. SO THERE'S A LOT OF SORT OF COMPLEX MOVING PARTS HERE AND THAT'S KIND OF THE STATE OF THAT CURRENT SITUATION. IF A MALE JUST MAYBE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT SORT OF LET UP TO THAT IN THE HISTORY OF ENGAGE IN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. AND ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN AS WE LOOK AT ADOPTING THIS.THIS ORDINANCE WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING JULY EIGHTEEN TWO WHICH IS ENGAGEMENT MEETING AND WE REALIZED AT THAT MEETING THERE IS A NEED FOR A LOT OF EDUCATION.WE HAD LAMB OR ITS REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOULDER HOUSING PARTNERS REPRESENTED FROM THE IMMIGRATION LEGAL CENTER. ALL YOU KNOW BRINGING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION AND ENFORCEMENT AND A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS FOR EXAMPLE. SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT DENVER DID PASS AN ORDINANCE BUT OH WAIT CLARIFY THAT THE ORDINANCE DID NOT ADDRESS THE IMMIGRATION SIDE OF THE EQUATION. THAT WAS
[43:02] SIMPLY A SOURCE OF INCOME ORDINANCE SO. THE QUESTION SAID OF THE REASONS ARE WHAT CAN A LANDLORD ASKED FOR IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW. A PERSON THAT MAY NOT BE DOCUMENTED WHAT ARE LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS. THAT THEY CAN ASK WITH RESPECT TO IDENTIFICATION OR VERIFICATION OF INCOME SO THOSE ARE THE SORT OF NUTS AND BOLTS THINGS THAT. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DEAL WITH ON THAT SIDE OF THE EQUATION. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION THEY'RE JUST SIMPLE BITS AND PIECES ABOUT UM WITH. WITH SOME OF THE FINANCIAL PIECES LIKE YOU KNOW CAN YOU ASK FOR ALL YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE THE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT VOUCHER YOU REALLY CAN ASK FOR.THERE'S NO NEED TO ASK FOR SORT OF VERIFICATION OF INCOME BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY COVERED.ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT WE HAD TO ADDRESS WAS A QUESTION OF WHEN PEOPLE FIRST SAW THE ORDINANCE THEY THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACCEPT. ALL TYPES OF SOURCES OF INCOME. YOU KNOW IF I KNEW THIS PERSON WAS GETTING THEIR MONEY FOR THROUGH CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES BY FORCE TO TAKE. THOSE PEOPLE ON AND THAT'S
[44:00] NOT THE CASE OF A CLOSE READ OF THE STATUTE INDICATES THAT SOURCE OF INCOME IS THAT WHICH IS LAWFUL AND VERIFIABLE.SO WE'VE HAD ONGOING DISCUSSIONS AND THAT WORKING FOR THE YOU KNOW FOLKS IN THE ENGAGED IN PEACE.THAT IS EITHER OPT INTO A SMALLER SCALE WORKING FOR. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT IDENTIFY EFFICIENCIES. IN THE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROCESS AND WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THAT THROUGH DIALOGUE WITH BOULDER HOUSING PARTNERS WHERE MORTON OTHER PLAYERS SUCH AS HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES WERE. AND ARE ALSO EXPLORING WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS. IN SOME INSTANCES WE'VE SEEN THE ADOPTION OF SUPPORT OF FUNDS AND I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE WITH HOUSING PARTNERS WERE. CREATED FINES FOR EXCESSIVE DAMAGES THAT ARE BASICALLY ADMINISTERED BY A THIRD PARTY WHETHER IT'S LOCAL GOVERNMENT A COALITION OF NONPROFITS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.SO SECURITY DEPOSIT DAMAGES ARE IN EXCESS OF WHAT THE ACTUAL SECURITY DEPOSIT IS ALL SORT OF A GUARANTOR OF THAT.IN OTHER
[45:04] INSTANCES WE'VE SEEN PLACES WHERE THERE'S ASSISTANCE TO FIRST TIME VOUCHER HOLDERS WHERE THEY CAN. BASICALLY HAVE THEIR SECURITY DEPOSITS COVER THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WERE LOOKING AT WERE ALSO LOOKING AT EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS TO HELP THESE FOLKS SELL. SO THE MOST RECENT THINGS IS THAT ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBER YOUNG AND REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY WE ALL MET. AND YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT AN AGREEMENT FOR FOLKS TO SORT OF STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND HELP THESE FOLKS FIND HOUSING.THAT'S MORE OR LESS WHERE WE STAND NOW YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER DYE LOTS WITH ACTUAL VOUCHER HOLDERS. JUST TO EDUCATE OURSELVES BUT WITH THE CHALLENGES ARE THAT THE FACE. AND UNDERSTANDING THAT HOUSING IS OFTEN PART OF A LARGER EQUATION OF FINDING CHILDCARE FINDING A SUPPORT FOR TRANSPORTATION AND THIS IS JUST ONE KEY COMPONENT. OF YOU KNOW WHAT'S HELPING SOME OF THESE FOLKS TRANSITION OUT OF POVERTY OR TO STAY AFLOAT ANY QUESTIONS POST SO IN TERMS OF SNOW MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE.NO WE DIDN'T WANT THE SCHEDULING TO GET HER WAY OF PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE RIGHT.
[46:12] ANOTHER HAD SOME LAKES ARE SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GETTING CAUGHT UP FOR IN THIS AND SO UPDATE US ON THE TIMING AND THAT WE NEED TO ACT QUICKLY TO HAVE MORE TIME.WELL I THINK THAT YOU KNOW I WILL NEED TO STEP BACK AN ANSWER IN THIS WAY IS THAT. A LOT OF THE SUPPORTIVE THINGS ARE USED AND REASON EXAMPLE DENVER PASTOR ORDINANCE EARLIER THIS MONTH. AND YOU KNOW THEY DID HAVE A GAP IN TERMS OF IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT ON THE FIRST OF TWENTY NINE TEAM. AND THEY WANTED TO USE THAT TIME TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND ALSO THERE'S AN ONGOING NEGOTIATION ABOUT THE FUNDING THAT WOULD ASSIST SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER HOLDERS.YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THE CURRENT SITUATION I WOULD SAY THAT YOU KNOW WE HAD ORIGINALLY AGREED.WELL I THINK OUR SECOND TREE AGREEMENT MUST LOOK AT IT NOVEMBER.I THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING MORE QUICKLY THAN THAT JUST GIVEN A LOT OF UM. ISSUES OF
[47:03] THE IMMEDIATE IMPACTS ON FOLKS YOU KNOW IN THAT YOU'RE IN NOW AND I THINK A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISES CONCERNS.I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE TO PASS THE ORDINANCE BUT THEN WE CAN ALSO THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF POLICY AND EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS. THOSE CAN OPERATE INDEPENDENT OF THE PASSAGE OF AN ORDINANCE THAT MAKES SENSE YET VERY LOUDLY CHIME IN. AARON THANKS FOR THE UPDATE CLAY.APPRECIATE APPRECIATE THAT AND ALSO. THE MEETING ON FRIDAY I HAD JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS TO MAKE AND SOME OF THE OTHER POTENTIAL PARTNERS COULD BE LIKE LOCAL MOVERS TO HELP PEOPLE WITH. PERHAPS PRO BONO MOVING EXPENSES THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING ELSE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.ALSO IT'S TO BE NOTED THAT THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE SET UP FOR EXCESSIVE DAMAGES FROM THE EXPENDITURES ON THAT TURNS OUT TO BE REALLY LOW.I THINK THAT'S
[48:10] THE SORT OF ADDRESSING A SORT OF MISS IT EXISTS DOES SO AND THEN BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WITH RESPECT TO WHERE WE ARE ON THE ORDINANCE AND WE DIDN'T QUITE TALK ABOUT THIS ON FRIDAY ABOUT HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE THE ORDINANCE. ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS THAT OUR HOUSE WILL BE TO BE FRANK I THINK A LOT OF MY UNDERSTANDING AND WE DO HAVE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVE HERE BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT. A LOT OF THINGS LIKE A POTENTIAL FUN OR EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS AND THOSE ARE KEY COMPONENTS AND WAYS TO IDENTIFY EFFICIENCIES. THOSE THINGS CAN HAPPEN INDEPENDENT OF THE PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE OF WHAT I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER ORDINANCES THOSE ARE BAKED IN LIKE THAT'S NOT TAKEN TO DENVER BUT IT'S A MATTER OF POLICY.SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
[49:05] NECESSARILY HAVE TO SORT OF HAVE A LINKAGE BETWEEN BOTH OF THOSE THOSE THINGS. THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY AND THE ORDINANCE IS. PRETTY MUCH WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AND IT'S THESE ANCILLARY SORT OF SUPPORT STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE DEFINED DURING IMPLEMENTATION SAY THE ATTACKER THINK AARON THEM UP.THANKS CLAY APPRECIATE THAT UPDATE.AND IF THIS WERE AN. ABSOLUTE IS PART OF US PASSING THIS ORDINANCE TO A CERTAIN POINT THIS YEAR. IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD MORE QUICKLY THAN PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT ABOUT TIMETABLE TO THE IDEA THERE WOULD BE TO PREVENT FURTHER EVICTIONS IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.OM TRUE WEALTH IS LITTLE IN THIS SORT OF COMES FROM WORKING THE MEDIATION SERVICE WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HIS NON RENEWALS OF LEASES WHICH. ARE CONSIDERED SEPARATE FROM AN EVICTION WHICH WOULD BE IF SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING LIKE A BEHAVIORAL THING FOR NON PAYMENT OF RENT TO LET ME REPHRASE I SAY I MISSPOKE. HE WAS TO PREVENT MORE PEOPLE
[50:00] FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO STAY IN THERE ALL RIGHT SO IS THERE.I AM NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER NOW THAN WE THINK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD MORE QUICKLY IS THEIR TOOL THAT WE COULD USE IT LIKE A MORATORIUM ON THAT SORT OF THING HAPPENING.WE FINISHED FLESHING OUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.SO THAT'S A QUESTION HAS PUT OUT THERE TO THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE THE MORE URGENT THINGS TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM LOSING THEIR HOMES. AND THE ORDINANCE HAS A LONGER LASTING KIND OF THING. SO THAT KIND OF RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE WERE TO PASS THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW WHAT WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCE AS OF THE BOMB.PASSING THE ORDINANCE ON SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE LOSING THEIR HOME BY. THE END OF THE MONTH HE
[51:06] FOUND AND IF THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT THERE IN HAS ALREADY BEEN RENTED OUT. SO WITH THE THIRD THE REMEDIES AS PART OF THE PASSAGE OF THE ORDINANCE. AND THINKS IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FULLY THE LIST OF BUSH AND I DON'T FEEL FULLY EQUIPPED TO ANSWER US WHEN WE TURN TO.WE DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN AND SO ON. JORDAN SAYS IS THAT YOU CAN'T REFUSE TO RENT SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME AND I WOULD TAKE THE FAILURE TO ALLOW THEM TO RENEW HIS REFUSAL. OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE LIMITS COULD ARGUE THAT THEY'RE NOT PRINTING BECAUSE OF THEIR OF THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME BECAUSE THE PLACE IS ALREADY RENTED SO WE HAVE.I THINK WE HAVE SOME TROUBLE ENFORCING IT AND THAT CIRCUMSTANCES IMPROVE AND ACTUALLY PREVENTING THESE EVICTIONS.I'M DEDICATED TO TRYING IF YOU ASK ME TO BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT. THE TWO OF
[52:01] AARON'S REQUEST ON A MORATORIUM IS THAT I KNOW HE SAID THE DOCTORS FUN RIGHT NOW BUT WHAT. IS THAT POSSIBILITY BUT VERY MUCH RESPECT FOR THE SO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT. TO DO HIS QUESTION THAT I WAS ASKING IS IS IS THERE A TOOL TO PREVENT FURTHER NON RENEWAL OF SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS WHILE WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON FINALIZING THE ORDINANCE.I CAN'T REALLY THINK ONE DON'T USE THAT MIKE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WAS HAPPENING HERE.ISSIT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THEIR HOMES RIGHT NOW AND HAVE SIX AND SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS OR ARE AT LOWER INCOME THAT THEIR LEASES ARE NOT BEING RENEWED. AND THAT THERE ARE THE RENTS ARE GOING UP AND UNDERGOING HIDDEN RUNNING TO THE NEW PERSON IS HER SOMETHING WE CAN DO. TO STOP THAT MEANS ALSO THAT THE HEALTH OF THE SO THE REST ARE GOING UP THERE THAT. THE LETTER THAT WE WE HAVE A COPY OF JUST SAYS AS OF WHEN YOU'RE WHEN
[53:00] YOU'RE THE SANDS.WE WILL NO LONGER RENEW FOR ANYONE WHO HAS WHO RECEIVES ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE SPECIFICALLY SAY SATISFACTION.EIGHT THEY INCLUDE BOULDER HOUSING PARTNERS.I DON'T KNOW HOW WITHOUT THE ORDINANCE IS INTENDED TO ADDRESS THAT. HOW WE DO SOMETHING SURE THE ORDINANCE WAS OKAY BECAUSE THE BUBBLES ARE MY DOCTOR AS SHE. COULD REACH IS GO AHEAD AND PASSES BY EMERGENCY AND THEN WORK OUT THE DT ELSE AROUND HIM MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE IN NOVEMBER.SO HERE'S THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT WE PUT IT ON TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT.CAC ANNOUNCED THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE ON A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT SAID THAT. SO IT'S TECHNICALLY ON YOUR ON YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT BUT IT KIND OF GOES AGAINST OR. FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ONE OF THE REASONS I I ACTUALLY PUT IT IN THE PACKET FOR CAC TO CONTINUE CONSIDERATION.SO
[54:05] I DID THAT WAS LITIGATED OVER ONE ISSUE THAT WAS A NOTICE A FAIR OPPORTUNITY BE HEARD. IF YOU GO AHEAD NOW HAVING HAD A NEWS REPORT THAT SAYS BASED ON BUT WE SAID ON MONDAY THAT ITS NOT A GOAL FOR TONIGHT. I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FAIRNESS OF THAT NOW YOU AS YOU WELL KNOW. HAVE THREE MORE MEETINGS IN THE NEXT TEN DAYS SO THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY IF. IF IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO DO IS SAY ON THURSDAY OR NEXT TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY WHEN YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS.THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION RATHER THAN DOING IT TONIGHT. AKIN TO THAT WAS CAN BE MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION CAN WE GET A NOTICE IT I THINK WE ONLY NEED FORTY EIGHT HOURS IS THAT CORRECT OR SEVENTY TWO.I FORGET THINGS DIDN'T WANT THOSE YEAH AND OKAY TO LET BOB GO AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. YEAH MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIRECT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE I FOOL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF QUITE FRANKLY. BECAUSE WE WERE
[55:00] PREPARED TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND THEN MORE CAME IN AND SAID PLEASE DONT WANT SOME TIME TO TALK. LITTLE AND WORE SHIRTS AFFECTED PEOPLE AND I FEEL A LITTLE SNIPPET HERE AND SO ON WITH LISA I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO PASS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TONIGHT.COMMON GUYS IT'S NOT TOO TONIGHT THAT'S FINE.I WANT TO DO IS QUICKLY IS A LAW ALLOWS US TO DO THIS WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TO BEFORE.IN RETROSPECTSHAME ON US FOR GIVING MORE TIME TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING CLAY IS FANTASTIC BUT IN LIGHT OF THE EXCHANGE THAT YOU AND MARY HAD. SOME OF THIS WORK CAN CAN HAPPEN AFTER WE PASSED ORDINANCE THE ORDINANCE IS NOT CHANGE THE PAST OR DOES THIS BY PRODUCT. OF HOPE A AND WHISTLES JUST GET THE ORDERS PASSED THAN YOU CAN TO CONTINUE THE REALLY GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH BARRA AND THE LANDLORDS.UM SO I'M FULLY SUPPORT HER RELEASE IS I LIKE IS TO PASS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE CAC WAS WE GET FROM THE CHECKERED.CAN YOU LOOK UP HOW MUCH THE HOURS AND NOTICE WE NEED BECAUSE A WELL KNOWN DUTCH AND TWENTY FOUR A BELIEF BUT WE PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THURSDAY.IT'S THAT WAY WE ARE TO ME.WE'VE COVERED OUR
[56:03] NOTICE AND WE HAVE A MEETING ON THURSDAY DOES THAT WORK FOR FOUR WEEKS.WE DON'T PURSUE THE FULL COUNCIL ON THURSDAY TO HAVE A VOTE NEXT TUESDAY I'LL GIVE YOU MY VOTE. MY VOTE IS YES THEN I WILL BE HER OLDER SISTER NOW SAY I WON'T BE HERE THURSDAY BUT YES I MEAN THE DEAL IS IS THAT WE'RE QUICKLY APPROACHING THE END OF THE MONTH.PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE SOME CERTAINTY IN THEIR LIFES AND I AGREE WITH BOB WE GOT SNICKERED.OK I AGREE THIS AND IDEAS ARE PULLING OUT THAT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LANDLORDS HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN BEST SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A VOUCHER ASSISTANCE.I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AT THIS I THINK IS UNFORTUNATE THAT ALL THE LANDLORDS GET A POOR REPUTATION.IT'S CREATED BY
[57:06] ONE LANDLORD. WHO IF YOU'VE READ THE LETTER AND SOME OF THE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THEM IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL SYMPATHETIC TO THE PLIGHT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING THESE VOUCHERS SO. MY WORRIES THE LOCAL WHATEVER NOR THE LOCAL. PROPERTY MANAGER PARTICULARLY SO THE LACK OF SENSITIVITY WAS DISTURBING SO I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE AHEAD BUT IT IS NOT THE CASE THAT ALL LANDLORDS ARE AS INSENSITIVE AS THIS PARTICULAR MANAGEMENT COMPANY.THANK YOU FOR REMINDING US THAT THE GUEST.I JUST ADD THAT YES IT'S THIS BAD APPLES THAT IS CAUSING ALL OF THIS FROM HOME THANKS TO A PAY CUT THAT. BUT I DO
[58:02] WANT TO POINT OUT THAT. I FOUND THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BY HOW VERY VERY WILLING TO COOPERATE AND WORK WITH THESE FOLKS THAT ARE ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR HOMES AND WORK HARD TO FIND. A PLACE FOR THEM AND JUST END IN A MATTER OF FRIDAY AT FIVE P M TO TWO TODAY.ALOT HAS HAPPENED A LOT OF WORK A LOT OF NEW RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN. CREATED A LOT OF CONNECTIONS THAT HAD MID MAY BEFORE I MEAN JUST THE SIMPLE FACT OF SITTING DOWN OF OUR HOUSE SITTING DOWN WITH A SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER HOLDER IS. I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD BE STRAIGHT TOWARD THING THAT YOU WOULD THINK OF DOING BUT HADN'T BEEN DONE AND SO THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK ARE HAPPENING. FREAKING OUT EFFORT TO SEE IF THEY CAN TAP INTO THEIR FUNDS ALL OF THESE CONNECTIONS THAT ARE BEING
[59:00] MADE ARE. ACTUALLY KNEW AND THEY ACTUALLY REPRESENT I THINK A VERY. POSITIVE THING MOVING FORWARD AND MOM AND I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PASSED AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM SPEAKING TO SEVERAL FOLKS THIS AFTERNOON THAT THE ORDINANCE IS PRETTY MUCH THERE.ALL OF THESE OTHER SUPPORT STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT WHICH HAVE BEGUN TO BE GETTING WORK DONE IN A VERY RAPID AT AN EXCELLENT MATTER. OF JUST THE DEER THAT THE ORDINANCE IS MOSTLY THEY'RE SOO VERY BIG THANK YOU TO WORKING SO HARD ON THIS I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING LEAD ON THE SET LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS ON GOING.OK SO THE TOTAL PROCEEDS WERE PUT ON THE SCHEDULE FOR THURSDAY THANK YOU SO MUCH CLAY AND MARY AND I WAS ASKED. IN A TURNED OVER A COMMENT SO WE WERE IN FOR A LONG NIGHT TONIGHT.SO UM BUT WE HAVE TWENTY PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR OPEN COMMENT THAT'S GREAT YOU ARE.WELCOME TO
[60:01] SPEAK JUST ABOUT ANY TOPIC THAT ISN'T THE SUBJECT OF A HEARING LATER TONIGHT. AND THOSE TWO SUBJECTS LATER TONIGHT OUR OIL AND GAS POLLUTION TAX BALLOT MEASURE AND SOUTH BOULDER CREEK FLOOD MITIGATION ON THE SOUTH BOULDER CREEK. FLOOD MITIGATION PARTY AT A HEARING SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE TESTIMONY ON THAT. BUT ASIDE FROM THOSE TWO TOPICS ON ANY OTHER TOPICS FAIR GAME TO INSERT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THAT WOULD BE GREAT.THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT AND UM IF YOU CAN BE CHEWED UP SO WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY THE DEGREE TO START WITH LYNNE SEGAL.FIRST UP AND THEN CARLY ANDERSON STUART EVER USING THE LITTLE MICE THAT WERE ONCE ONLY FOUR HOURS OF SLEEP SO WHAT THE HEY.AND SO WHEN I WANNA BRING UP TODAY AND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE AND I'M DOING HERE BEING B AND WE HAVE A JOBS HOUSING IMBALANCE.GUESS WHAT I LEAVE
[61:01] WORK.WHERE IS MY CREDIT FOR LIVING WHERE I WORK FOR TWENTY FIVE YEARS I COMMUTED TO DENVER.IT WAS OPPOSITE DIRECTION YOU KNOW BECAUSE I'D BUILT UP TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. NOW I'M BARELY AFFORDING TO LIVE HERE BECAUSE THINGS LIKE THREE ELEVEN GETTING PAST TWENTY TO FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR ONE PERSON FOR THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT. LIGHT ON THE URBAN WILDLIFE INTERFACE. AND THIS IS PROBLEMATIC IT'S CAUSING. PROPERTY VALUES TO GO UP AND THEN YOU HAVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE YOU HAVE TONIGHT. AND THEN YOU GO IN UNTIL ONE THIRTY EVERY NIGHT AND YOU'RE HAVING ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING IN ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING TO CATCH UP WITH THE ENDLESS PROBLEM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND
[62:04] YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING RIGHT HERE YOU'RE CHARGING ME YOU ARE STEALING A TWELVE POINT FIVE PERCENT FOR MY GUESTS THAT YOU USE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEN I'M ELIGIBLE MYSELF. FOR LONG SPEAK ENERGY WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM AGAINST MY ENERGY DEL. SOL FIND THE ONE WHO NEEDS NO HELP AND FOUR HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS TO SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS A NIGHT AT THE ST JULIEN. THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR ALL THESE EXTRA SUPER HYPER EXPENSIVE HOTELS IN BOULDER AND ALL OF THIS GROWTH IS SQUEEZING EVERYBODY AND DON'T HAVE ENDLESS PROBLEMS. TO DEAL WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS IN THIS CAMP SO FROM THE FUNDAMENTALS. THANK YOU WHEN I LEAVE AFTER CARLY AND DANIEL ROBLES WILL BE READY. TO CONSOLE THE AND GRAD STUDENTS YOU ANIMATE BOARD MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ON
[63:00] RIGHTS IN COMPENSATION AS A GRAD STUDENT LABOR UNION. RIGHT NOW ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ALLEVIATE THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT'S HAPPENING AMONG GRADUATE STUDENTS RIGHT NOW. SO HERE TODAY TO DIRECTLY ASK THE CONSUL IF YOU MAKE SOME PAST SPECIAL MISSIONS ENABLING MORE GRADUATE STUDENTS TO BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING. AT A MEDIAN HOUSE PRICE OF ABOUT EIGHT HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IT'S EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN BOULDER EVEN IF YOU MAKE A LIVING WAGE. AND MANY PROBABLY MOST GRADUATE STUDENTS STILL MAKE A LIVING GETTING CLOSE. TO HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE REQUIRES ABOUT THIRTY WEEKS THIRTY HOURS A WEEK OF AIR FIND EMPLOYMENT AND WHILE GRETCHEN STEARNS WORK FORTY HOURS WEEK SOMETIMES MUCH MORE. WE CAN PROVE THAT ON PAPER CARS AROUND PAY A MAX OF TWENTY HOURS A WEEK OR SO OF THE ISSUE IS WORKING AT LEAST WHOLE TIME AND WE JUST CAME. FOR RENTING FOR EXAMPLE FULL TIME STUDENTS ARE GENERALLY INELIGIBLE IN A TAX CREDIT LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES AND EVEN THOUGH OUR LOW INCOMES WOULD NORMALLY QUALIFY US FOR THESE. AND OTHER LOW INCOME RESIDENTS BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF SIMPLY WORKING MORE AND ABLE TO ENABLE US TO MAKE MORE MONEY. SO WE KNOW THAT RATS HANDS ON PART OF
[64:00] BOULDER'S DEMOGRAPHIC AND WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE UNITS FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM BUT THE FACT IS THERE'S. THOUSANDS OF GRADUATE STUDENTS IN BOULDER AND A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY LOW INCOME RESIDENTS. ARE HAVING PROBLEMS MIGHT BE THAT THE CITY IS UNABLE TO HELP US IN THIS WAY DUE TO OVERTURN FEDERAL LAWS. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE OK BUT WE LIKE TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LINCOLN HOUSING GOING FORWARD. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THE PREFERRED MEETING HAPPENING TOMORROW AND OUR GROUP PLANS TO SUBMIT A LIST OF THINGS THAT MIGHT HELP ALLEVIATE THIS CRISIS WROTE TO THE GRADUATE STUDENTS. OF CU HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE UNIVERSITY FOR OVER HUNDRED YEARS. AND GRADUATE STUDENTS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE FUNCTIONING OF THE UNIVERSITY BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY SLIPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS SO. IT WOULD GREAT IF THE CITY COULD HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT. LESS NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS WE CROSSED. THE TWO THINGS MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT AND APPRECIATE YOU. GETTING INVOLVED TO HAVE VERY MUCH WELCOME YOUR INVOLVEMENT SO
[65:00] PLEASE DO. YOURSELF IN YOUR GROUPS IN YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL A COUNCIL OF BOULDER COLORADO A CUFFS WE CAN MAINTAIN CONTACT HEATHER GRAHAM. AND I WOULD THINK YOU ALSO FOR COMING BUT ALSO TO HAVE ANOTHER PLACE YOU SHOULD GO TO AND THAT'S THE CU REGENTS AND TO THE UNIVERSITY. TO ANY CHANNEL AND THEN SHE TOLD US TO GO TO THE CITY.YES WELL THEY. CONTINUE TO GROW N GROW. AND IS SO IT DOES PLACE A REAL MENACE OF PREVIOUS SPEAKERS SPOKE TO A REAL SQUEEZE AND A RESIDENT. AND I WAS A GRADUATE STUDENT SEE YOU TOO LONG TIME AGO AND HAD SIMILAR ISSUES THAT THIS IS A LONGTIME PROBLEM AND I'M HAPPY TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS THAT. THE UNIVERSITY ALSO HAS TWO SO I WOULD REALLY ASK THAT YOU BOUGHT THE U REGENTS AND LOBBIED THE ADMINISTRATION.
[66:18] THANKYOU THANKYOU ELAND ERM AFTER M L AND L'S NOT HERE TO SAY THAT WE WRANGLE OUR UI OKAY AND THEN PETER MEYER FEW CAN BE READY TO GO K S A. EVERYONE MY NAME'S REWRITE AGO A RESIDENT HERE IN BOULDER AND I PLAN TO COME DOWN HERE TONIGHT.INITIALLY TO TAKE PART IN THE HEARING FOR THE EIGHT ROW AMENDMENTS THAT ORDINANCE.I WAS GRAVELY DISAPPOINTED AND SURPRISED WHEN IT WAS CANCELED ON SHORT NOTICE BUT I AM FEELING BETTER NOW THAT IT'S BEEN REVIVED AGAIN WILL SHORT NOTICE.UM I HAVE TO SAY THOUGH LIKE THE PROGRESSION OF THE STATE ROOM ADMIN STUFF HAS BEEN EXTREMELY DISHEARTENING PROCESS BEGAN IN JUNE.WHAT IS CLAY SAID IT
[67:12] MADE CLEAR ITS INCREDIBLY STRAIGHTFORWARD ORDINANCE SEEMS TO ME FOR THIS TO BE CONTINUALLY PUSHED BACK BY LANDLORDS IN WHAT I THINK IS PRETTY CLEARLY TAT SAY IS JUST SUCKS.UM IT WAS PUSHED BACK TO SEPTEMBER TWENTIETH AND THEN TO NOON NOVEMBER EIGHT AND NOW HOPEFULLY IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THURSDAY. BUT UNKNOWN TO YOU FOLKS MAY FEEL THAT IT'S JUST A FEW BAD APPLES BUT I'M OF THE BELIEF THAT LANDLORDS HAVE A VESTED INTEREST AS A GROUP. IN PREVENTING THESE SORTS OF LEGISLATION FROM GOING THROUGH.THAT'S THE REALITY AND ITS AMENDMENTS THE LANDLORDS ARE THE VERY ACTORS THAT THIS ORDINANCE. IS ATTEMPTING TO RESTRAIN AND I THINK PRESUMING THAT THEY CAN TAKE PART IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS IN GOOD FAITH OR INDEED THAT THEY SHOULD AT
[68:00] ALL IS EXTREMELY MISGUIDED. MY TIME AND AM COUNTING UP GOING DOWN AND UP.I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU. TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU AREN'T OR IF YOU OWN YOUR HOMES AND FEWER LANDMARKS YOURSELF. AND TRY AND REMEMBER IF YOU DID EVER HAVE TO RENT A HOME FROM THE LANDLORD WHAT FELT LIKE. BECAUSE I'M A RENTER AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M THE POWERFUL PARTY IN THAT RELATIONSHIP AND I DON'T STAIN. THE BOULDER AREA RENTERS HOUSING ASSOCIATION TO GET TO MEET PRIVATELY WITH THE COUNCIL WHEN. THEY SAY THAT HEY I GUESS I'VE BEEN NEGLIGENT ON THE NOISE FOR. ONE AGREE WITH SOMEBODY DO THIS BUT WOULD LIKE TO LET PEOPLE MAKE NOISES HAPPY OR SAD ABOUT SPEAKERS JUST AS A GENERAL RULE SO EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE.THANK YOU FOR COMING APPRECIATE IT PETER AND AFTER PETER'S MANUAL.GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS PETER MAYER THIRTEEN THIRTY NINE HAWTHORNE AVENUE BOULDER COLORADO.I AM CO
[69:04] CHAIR OF PLAN BOULDER BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR I'M SPEAKING JUST ON BEHALF OF MYSELF TONIGHT. IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS IN THE US ARE REALLY BUSY BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT A D USE AN OA USE AGAIN SO PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING. THERE IS BROAD SUPPORT THE IDEA OF ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WELL INTEGRATED INTO NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE FORM OF EIGHTY USE AND OVERUSE.IT'S THE AFFORDABILITY AND ADDING AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT GOT US INTO THIS DISCUSSION THAT REALLY NEEDS REMAIN THE GOAL. WITHOUT AFFORDABILITY COMPONENTS WHY WOULD BOULDER CHOOSE EVEN VEER FROM THE CURRENT POLICY ON A FEW SNOWY ITS. AFFORDABILITY IN EXCHANGE FOR INCREASED AREA REDUCED PARKING OR OTHER MODIFICATIONS PROBABLY MAKES SENSE THAT THEY CAN BE REASONABLY IMPLEMENTED.I ALSO WOULD ASK THAT YOU KEEP A THREE TO FIVE YEAR OWNERSHIP REQUIREMENT.THE FIVE YEAR OWNERSHIP REQUIREMENT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN PLACE FOR GOOD REASON BY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL TO PREVENT BUILDING FLIP PHENOMENON WHICH WE KNOW DRIVES UP HOUSING COSTS.SO IF
[70:03] YOU DECIDE THAT FOR BEFORE EIGHTIES AND USE YOU MUST ENSURE THE POLICY RESULTS IN INCREASE THE STOCK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS NOT JUST THE BOTTOM LINE FOR PROPERTY VALUE.AFFORDABILITY IS WHAT GOT US INTO THIS DISCUSSION AFTER ALL THAT'S MY COMMENT THAT YOU VERY MUCH OF A GOOD NIGHT TO KEEP YOU THEN YOU OWE AND THEN MAKING THE COURT.GOOD EVENING COUNCIL THE STORY TO FIND THIS TO FIX MY JUNIPER AVENUE IN BOULDER AND THEN HIT A COMING OF THE CITY'S DIVERSITY INCLUSION AND EQUITY. THE DEFENDANT IN MY OPINION READ ONE OF THE SURGE FED CHIEF DIVERSITY OFFICER OF CONNECTED RATHER POORLY BY THE CITY. AND ATTEND TWO FINAL CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND INVITED TO GIVE A TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION THAT SEEMS SO PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE HIRING COMMITTEE THE DAY WHERE THERE IS A FACT GOING ON.MEMBERS OF COUNCIL WERE NOT AWARE OF IT IN SOME OF THEM. AND NEITHER
[71:03] WERE MEMBERS OF THE CITY'S HUMAN RELATIONS COMMISSION THE COUNCIL IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED IN HIRING TO GET. HIM INTO HIRING BUT TO NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THOSE EFFECTS GOING ON FOR THE FENCE TO FENCE THE PROFESSOR. TO MOVE FROM TODAY ON. THE ONE REASON THAT I'VE GIVEN FOR WHY THIS ALL HAPPENED SO QUIETLY AT THE POSITION OF INTERFACING TO HELP AND ADDRESS ISSUES OF DIVERSITY AND IN CONFORMITY WITH THE CITY.THE PROBLEM IF THAT'S WHAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT DOESN'T OPERATE IN THE BACK YOU. MUCHO SOL AND STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS AND FOLKS SERVING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE PAID OUT OF THE SOCIETY THAT WE ALL SHARE THE FIGURE HAS INVOLVED THE COMMUNITY.I READ ABOUT THE CITY ENTERING INTO CONTACT WITH CARE.I REALLY LIKED THE HEAD WITH A LIE CAN SAY I THUS. SO WHAT I WANTED
[72:04] HALF OF THAT THIS TIME AROUND YOU INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE PROCESS MOVED A LOT OF THE COLOR. IN BOULDER THAT YOU SHOULD CONSULT WITH YOU DON'T LIKE TO ASK THE OPINION OF THE FEEDBACK ON PLANS BY D CREATED THE WILL TO FIGHT EFFORTS TO CREATE WITH HIM. I'M SURE THAT THE FOLKS A REALLY EXPENSIVE IN THE GOVERNMENT TO RACIAL EQUITY.BUT WE'RE THE EXPERTS HUMBLED AND THANK YOU NIKKI AND THEN LISA SPALDING. EVENING HOUSE ONLY CAN RECORD MY TESTIMONY IS RESPONSE TO THE IN THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP WITH HERE. AS A RESIDENT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT THE COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO RESPOND TO THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.NUMBER WHY THE MEMO OUTLINES THREE DELIVERABLES FOR THE SECTION TITLE NEXT STEPS WHICH ARE NOT CLEAR AS THEY SPECIFICALLY RELATE TO ANY PAST OR PRESENT WORK DONE BY THE CITY.I FEAR THAT THIS IS JUST CONSULTING WORK FOR CONSULTING WORK SAKE.NUMBER
[73:00] TWO THE CITY'S PREVIOUS DIVERSITY DIRECTOR WAS IN HER POSITION FOR LESS THAN A YEAR.WHY DIDN'T THE CITY DO THIS WORK TO OUTLAW OUTLINED IN NEXT TEST BEFORE THEY HIRED THE CITIES THE CITIES THE VERY FIRST DIVERSITY OFFICER. THAT THEY SET THIS PERSON UP FOR FAILURE BY NOT DOING THIS WORK BEFOREHAND. NUMBER THREE WHAT IS THE CITY PREPARED TO DO IT THE REPORT FINDS THAT YOU CANNOT CHANGE PEOPLE'S BEHAVIORS IN REGARDS TO RACE. AFTER READING THE CAMERA ARTICLES THE PROBLEM OF RACISM HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR YEARS.I QUESTION WHAT HIRE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT WILL ACHIEVED RESPOND TO THE EXPERIENCE OF RESIDENTS MENTIONED IN THE ARTICLES.THANK YOU THANK YOU NIKKI.LISA AND BECKY RICHARDSON SPALDING ELEVEN THIRTY FIVE J. WHEN I SPOKE
[74:00] TO YOU PREVIOUSLY ABOUT CHANGES TO THE AID YOU ORDINANCE. SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TWO MOST PROBLEMATIC PROPOSALS DOUBLING THE ALLOWABLE SATURATION LIMIT FROM TEN TO TWENTY PERCENT IN THE WRITING MOST OF THE MICHAEL THE ONE CAT. AND SOME LOOPS AND ELIMINATING NON CONFORMING PROPERTIES FROM THE SATURATION LIMIT.THERE'S NO REASON TO DOUBLE THE SATURATION LIMIT WHEN WE HAVE NOT COME CLOSE TO REACHING THE CURRENT TEN PERCENT. IT WOULD BE EASY ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY INCREASES AFTER WE SEE HOW THE NEW ORDINANCE IS WORKING. ELIMINATING NON CONFORMING PROPERTIES FROM THE SATURATION LIMIT TO REPLACE THE SEVERE BURDEN ON NEIGHBORHOODS THAT BURNED DOWN SOME TO LOW DENSITY. HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUE PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE I TOOK FOR GRANTED THAT WOULD REMAIN CENTRAL TO ANY CHANGES. IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT TO ENSURE THAT BOTH THE HOMEOWNER AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT FROM PERMISSION TO BUILD BEYOND THE ZONING LIMITS BY HAVING AN A T U. CAPPING RAN SO INTERVIEWS PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING FOR BOULDER'S LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME WORKERS MAKE SENSE WE WON'T GET AFFORDABILITY AND THE OTHER WAY.I ATTENDED BOULDERS
[75:02] BETTER BOULDERS EIGHTY YOU TOUR LAST MARCH AND VISITED TWO STUDIO UNITS. ONE IS FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN SQUARE FEET AND WAS RUN IT FOR TWELVE HUNDRED A MONTH THOUGH THE OWNER SAID THIS IS TWO TO THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS BELOW MARKET VALUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.THE SECOND STUDIO WAS IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD BUT SMALLER THAN THE FIRST CLIMB.THE HOMEOWNER CONFRONTED HER SON'S BEDROOM INTO AN EIGHTY YOU BY ADDING A BATHROOM AND KITCHENETTE.IT RUNS FOR SIXTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH MARKET RATE RENTS FIFTEEN TO SIXTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR SMALL STUDIOS AROUND FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OR LESS WILL NOT INCREASE OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK.WE WERE TOLD CHANGES TO THE AID YOU ORDINANCE WOULD HELP MIDDLE INCOME HOMEOWNERS STAY IN THEIR HOMES AND BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY BY ADDING AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WOULD HOUSE FOLDERS LOW AND MIDDLE INCOME WORKERS.WE WERE ALSO CALLED THE CHANGES WOULD BE INCREMENTAL INCOMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORHOODS.PLEASE ENSURE THE NEW ORDINANCE KEEPS THESE PROMISES.THANKS THANKS LISA
[76:08] FOR TERRY PATRICK MURPHY AND THEN JACKIE. MY NAME IS PATRICK MURPHY HELD IN BOULDER. THE BOULDER MUNI MONOPOLY MAELSTROM CONTINUES TO SUCK THE TIME MONEY AND INTEGRITY OF BOULDER CITIZENS. THIS WEEK IS THE BEGINNING OF A REPEAT OF THE BOULDER P BYRD MUNI MORE ON. THE TWENTY ELEVEN TO SEE MUNI BALLOT THAT BARELY PASSED STIPULATED THE COUNCIL COULD ONLY CREATE A MUNI. THAT THE COUNCIL TO TERMS THAT CAN CHART RACE AND DO NOT EXCEED THOSE RATES CHARGED BY EXCEL ENERGY AT THE TIME OF ACQUISITION. AND PAY FOR OPERATING EXPENSES AND DEBT PAYMENTS PLUS AN ADDITIONAL TWENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE DEBT PAYMENTS. FRESNO MATH ON EARTH THAT CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN WHEN THE DAY ONE TOTAL DEBT WILL BE OVER SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS. THE HIGHER COURTS TO TERMINATE JUST SAYING YOU CAN BE DONE IS NOT ENOUGH YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT. YOU CAN'T PROVE IT BECAUSE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.BOULDER IS A DON QUIXOTE OF MUNICIPAL IS A NATION INSTEAD OF TILTING AT WINDMILLS.WE SHOULD BE
[77:02] PROVIDING WIND INCENTIVES FOR THE CARBON TAX ARE ALREADY COLLECTING THE BULK OF THAT CARBON TAXES NEWS FOR CARBON REDUCTION.HOW HYPOCRITICAL IS THAT THE PLANET BURNS WHILE BOULDER FIDDLES AND SUPPORTERS OF THE MUNI AND THE DETRACTORS OF EXCEL IGNORE THE DEEP FATAL FLAWS OF THE BOULDER MUNI MONOPOLY. THE XL REGULATED MONOPOLY WILL HAVE OVER TEN TIMES THE ENTIRE ELECTRIC USAGE OF BOULDER IN RENEWABLES THIS YEAR. IT WOULD BE MORE FULLY COLLABORATE INSTEAD OF LITIGATE. PERHAPS EXCELLED IN EXCEPT BOULDERS BID FOR A SOLAR GARDEN BECAUSE THE OTHER BIDDERS WERE THREATENING TO LEAVE AND THOSE OTHERS AGREED TO CONVERT ALL THE STREETLIGHTS TO L E D'S. HOLDER REJECTED THE L E D THAT WOULD SAVE MONEY AND REDUCE CARBON TO GEOCACHE ON BOULDER'S ENERGY USE SUSTAINABILITY
[78:00] COORDINATOR LAMENTS THAT HER RECENT CAMERA ARTICLE NO. EXPLAIN THAT ANTI D DECISION WITHOUT SOUNDING LIKE A FOOL. THANK YOU PATRICKJACKIE AFTER JACKIE RICHARD O'BRIEN ON HER.MY NAME IS JACKIE RICHARDSON AND ELEVEN SOUTH BOULDER AND I WOULD MORE OR LESS LIKE A SECOND EVERYTHING RELEASED EARLIER.I'M EXTREMELY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS ARE ADOPTING THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE. AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BUT THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT COULD HAVE STAYED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN FAVOR OF TENANTS RIGHTS RECORD.I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BACKUP EVERYTHING.CARLY SAID EARLIER ON AS A FORMER GRADUATE STUDENT MYSELF ALSO ON. WHETHER OR NOT GRADUATE STUDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR SECTION EIGHT HOUSING OR HOUSING ASSISTANCE ON IF THERE'S ANYTHING BOULDER COULD CONSIDER DOING TO MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE FOR GRADUATE STUDENTS.I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A MUCH EASIER TIME OF IT IN THE COUNTRY TO MAKE YOU JACKIE.RICHARD AND
[79:03] THE JAMISON BROWN II RICHARD O'BRIEN PSALM NINE NINE THREE EAST MOREHEAD CIRCLE.I'M A MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION AND I'M INTERESTED IN HELPING WITH THE OUTDOOR LIGHTING ORDINANCE.I'M PLANNING ON VOLUNTEERING TO HELP WITH EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH EFFORTS IN THE COMING WEEKS. HE AND I THINK THAT ALMOST EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN ENGAGE WITH THE ORDINANCE. OF ONE STACY THAT IT WILL INCREASE BEAUTY AND SAVE MONEY AND ALSO INCREASE SAFETY IN MANY SITUATIONS SO I THINK THAT IT'S ALL VERY VERY PROMISING AND I'M ENCOURAGED TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A NUMBER OF CITY STAFF MEMBERS FOR SEVERAL
[80:00] MONTHS NOW ABOUT POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT YOU DON'T EXTEND THE DEADLINE ANY FURTHER OF WHAT YOU PLANNED NO AGGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT PLAN AT THIS TIME. OF DAY TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AND NOT TO GO AFTER THEM WITH A STICK.ALSO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT I THINK THAT THE LOW COLOR TEMPERATURE AMENDMENT THAT THE STAFF IS PROPOSING. IS TIME SENSITIVE AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE ACTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH THAT LOW COLOR TEMPERATURE AMENDMENT IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT. WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.I ALSO AGREE WITH THE STAFF SUGGESTIONS ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS LIKE REMOVING OBSOLETE TERMINOLOGY AND PLANNING MAYBE FUTURE REVISIONS FOR THAT. YOU KNOW IN THE FUTURE
[81:00] BUT AT THIS POINT PROBABLY JUST REMOVING OBSOLETE TERMINOLOGY IS GOOD GOOD STARTING PLACE FOR NOW THANK YOU THANK YOU MR. JAMIESON AND THEN KARA TRICK.GOOD EVENING COUNSEL JAMES AND BROWN TWENTY FOUR TWENTY TWENTY ST.THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. FIRST I WANT TO HAND OVER THE STACK OF POSTCARDS FOR MEMBERS OF BETTER BOLDER IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY'S STAFF RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO EIGHTY YOU KNOW YOU POSSES.SECONDLY IT'S BEEN A FEW WEEKS AS THE AND I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU ABOUT THE OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT. THAT WE SAW EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGES. AS YOU KNOW RECENT SURVEY OF BOULDER COUNTY RESIDENTS HAVE FOUND THAT THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT BY FAR ISSUE FACING PRESIDENT OF THE COUNTY'S HIGH COST OF HOUSING. AND LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. EIGHTY YEARS HAVE THE UNIQUE ABILITY TO PROVIDE BOTH LOWER INCOME HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL AS NEEDED INCOME TO SUPPORT A MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING AND EMPTY NESTERS STAYING IN PLACE. IN LIGHT OF DAY RAISING RISING HOUSE
[82:00] PRICES THE HOUSING COST OF HOUSING.SO IN THAT WAY PROVIDING SORT OF CHEW NEEDED HOUSING SOLUTIONS WITH THE MANY CASES NO ADDITIONAL BUILDING. AND LET'S REMEMBER THAT THE SIMPLE AND PROVEN FACT THAT RESTRICTIVE HOUSING POLICIES LEADS TO HIGHER HOUSING COSTS THANKS TO KAY JAMISON ARE THERE AND THEN LED A MAY POLE.HELLO MY NAME'S TERRY DRAKE I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AND TENANTS UP OLDER FOR TEN YEARS.I ALSO SAW LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO SPOKE TODAY IN FAVOR OF THE HR OMEN AND THAT WAS VERY HEARTENING. AND I ALSO CAME IN ORDER TO SPEAK AGAINST AND DISCRIMINATION BUT THE HEARING HAS BEEN CANCELLED TWICE AT LIMIT REQUESTS. AND I I I
[83:00] PERSONALLY AM HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHY. THIS COUNCIL DECIDED IN JANUARY IN JANUARY OF TWENTY SEVEN TEAM THAT BOULDER IS A SANCTUARY CITY AND A SAFE PLACE FOR UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE WHO ARE INCREASINGLY HUNTED AND VILIFIED BY THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.MAKE NO MISTAKE IMMIGRANTS WORK HERE AND THEY ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY.BUT HOLDER WILL GET THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.AS FOR DISCRIMINATION BASED ON SOURCE OF INCOME.I THINK IT'S PAST TIME THAT WEALTHY. PROGRESSIVE BOULDER COLORADO PASSED ANTI DISCRIMINATION LAWS THAT DENVER BALTIMORE PITTSBURGH DALLAS TEXAS AND THE ENTIRE STATE OF UTAH NORTH DAKOTA AND OKLAHOMA HAVE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE. WASHINGTON D C HAS OUTLAWED DISCRIMINATION OF SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER RECIPIENTS SINCE NINETEEN SEVENTY SEVEN. THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE DUE TO ITS RACIAL IMPLICATIONS.LANDLORDS MAY NOT THINK THEY'RE BEING RACIALLY DISCRIMINATORY BUT THE FACT IS THAT LATINO AND LATINO TENANTS ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO QUALIFY FOR HOUSING OR HOUSING ASSISTANCE. AND BLACK FOLK
[84:10] ARE TWENTY TWO TIMES MORE LIKELY TO QUALIFY IN BOULDER COUNTY. DISCRIMINATION BASED ON IMMIGRATION STATUS AND SOURCE OF INCOME IS INHERENTLY RACIST DISCRIMINATION AND IT MATERIALLY IT DIMINISHES OUR COMMUNITY. DELAY IN THIS MATTER IS THE SAME AS CONTINUING DISCRIMINATION ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THE BIGGEST LEASE SIGNING SEASON OF THE YEAR.FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO THE AUSTIN. CAN FINISH A SENTENCE WHY THE CITY IS SPENDING SO MUCH TIME MEETING WITH BARAK. AND TRYING TO WIN OVER LANDLORDS OR BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TRYING TO FIND ALTERNATIVE HOUSING FOR BOULDER TENANTS THAT ARE LOSING THEIRS.THANK YOU TO TEAR THE DISTANCE AND LEONARD AND THEN SAMMY MORRIS.THIS IS SO GREAT MY. BLEEDING ARM LEONARD MAYER LIVE IN BOULDER
[85:00] AND ALL BE SPEAKING ABOUT AED USE TONIGHT SINCE WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT AED USE IN ORDER TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.LET'S ENSURE THAT THEY ARE AFFORDABLE BY EMPLOYING RED CAPS BY DOING SO THE BENEFITS OF EXPANDING EIGHTY USES SHARED BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS AND DIRECTORS. NOT TO SEW THEM ON ENTICING OPPORTUNITY YOU WILL CREATE BY EXPANDING IT TO USE ONLY BENEFITS HOMEOWNERS. CASE IN POINT AND SOMEBODY ELSE MADE THIS POINT EARLIER. THERE ARE FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT EIGHTY USE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH ARE ESSENTIALLY A BEDROOM CONVERTED IN THE HOUSE RENTING FOR OVER SIXTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS MARK.IT'S NOT AFFORDABLETHESE UNITS MOST CERTAINLY WILL BE EVEN LESS AFFORDABLE OVER TIME AS RENTS INCREASE. AND AS THEY FALL THE TRAJECTORY OF THE PAST FORTY YEARS SAYS INCREASES WILL EXCEED PAYCHECK INCREASES. THE WHILE BE ON BY RIGHT IN THAT COULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THE CITY SAYS THAT'S WHAT IS BY RACE CAN BE CONDITIONED.ANYWAY
[86:07] THE CITY WANTS INCLUDING REQUIRING AFFORDABLE RENTS. IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONES ONE DWELLING IS ALLOWED PER LOT BY RIGHT IN THE EU IS AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING. SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENSURE IN PERM PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH ME TO USE THESE USES.THANK YOU THANK YOU BERNARD SEMI AFTER SEMI WE HAVE MEGAN R ANGLE.I WANT TO PERFECT.GREETINGS EVERYONEI COME TO YOU TODAY MANY SEMI LAWRENCE SEMINARS THE FOURTH RATHER. NINETEEN TWENTY SIX CAME BOULEVARD APARTMENT NUMBER AND I AM HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT TWO PARTIES ONE SEVERELY DISABLED PEOPLE AS WELL LIKEWISE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS OR AT REST SOMETHING I ONCE WAS.I ACTUALLY WON THE VERY FEW PEOPLE HAS SLEPT ON THE STREETS IN THE STATE LAYS DOWN THE STREET FROM BROADWAY BRIDGE PRIEST ACTUALLY SLEEP UNDER.SO WHAT
[87:07] I SPEAK FEW BUT STAYS VERY SERIOUS BIKE WAS BEING A CONSTITUENT. I'M HERE SPEAK ABOUT THE FACT THAT MARIJUANA LAW SEVERELY ON THE MARIJUANA LAW AS CURRENT TUESDAY'S TO WHERE I AM. NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY UTILIZE MY MEDICATION TO KEEP ME SAFE FROM I CAN GIVE ME A SEIZURE OR AN ANNUAL SUM IS NOT RIGHT.I CAME OUT HERE FROM CALIFORNIA TO WORK WITH BOTH. MARIJUANA AS WELL AS YOUTH. ESPECIALLY AT RISK YOUTH AND KIND OF HAND DOWN WAY TO WHERE YOUTH ARE ABLE TO ACTUALLY. CARRY FOURTEEN THEY'RE ABLE TO BASICALLY GET PAST WHERE I WAS IN ONE POINT IN TIME LIFE. AND BASICALLY WITH ME SPEAK ABOUT AS I SPEAKING AS AN TODAY. ABOUT THE FACT OF THE I'M KIND OF DISCRIMINATION TO WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE SEVERELY DISABLED LIKE ME. ARE NEW TO USE THE MEDICINE AT THE TOWN'S MAYOR NEEDED TO THE MOST. RENTAL LAWS WELL LIKE WHAT THEY RAN TO THE FEAR THE RISKS WELL I QUEST FOR LAW. TO WHERE WE HAVE THE ISSUE TO WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY BE PUT INTO JAIL IF YOU'RE HOMELESS OR IF YOU'RE A SERIES OF PERSON IF KOSTER IS TO INVEST CERTAIN WAY.I'VE RUN INTO MORE TIMES
[88:05] MATTER OF FACT WHEN I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO NOT BE PUT IN THE SITUATION. SO I COME TO YOU TODAY TO ASK FOR ASSISTANCE BECAUSE I AM I FOUGHT HARD TO GET TO AND NOW. TO GET STABILIZED TO BUILD A FOUNDATION FOR FAMILY AND TO PROVIDE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.I'M GOING TO CONTINUE PROVIDING FOR THIS COMMUNITY AT RISK YOUTH AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WORSE FOR DISABLED AND HELPLESS COMMUTE TO BECOME BETTER.THIS IS WHEN THE WAIT STAFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND BLESSINGS TO ALL OF YOU THANK YOU. MEGAN RANK THEM AND THEN SAM JANG GOOD EVENING I'M THE RESIDENT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE HUMAN RIGHTS HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE.I WANT TO REPEAT THAT I'M ECSTATIC THAT THIS HAS BEEN MOVED UP I THINK THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND THE TIMELINESS OF IT IS DIRE.WHEN PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES WHEN THEY'RE THIS
[89:00] VULNERABLE IF THEY DON'T HAVE DAYS THEY DON'T HAVE A MONTH THEY DON'T HAVE THIS TIME TO GIVE. US SO I COMMEND YOU FOR MOVING THIS UP I WOULD BE EVEN HAPPIER IF IT WERE HAPPENING TONIGHT.MAN I ALSO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE IT WILL BE HAPPENING THIS WEEK ABOUT THIS ISSUE PER SE SINCE JUNE.I'M AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE AMBLED OR STAND POISED TO FALL IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF ELEVEN STATES SIXTY ONE CITIES AND COUNTIES AND OUR NATION'S CAPITAL IN PROVIDING SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION PROTECTION.WE ALSO STAND POISED TO MAKE A STRONG STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF OUR COUNTRY'S BELEAGUERED IMMIGRANT POPULATION AT A MOMENT IN HISTORY WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE BEING VICIOUSLY ATTACKED AND TERRORIZED. AT THE HUMBOLDT BUT INFORMED HIS CITIZENS.
[90:11] BECAUSE TO PUT THIS IN ANOTHER ALBEIT MORE PAINFUL WAY YOU COULD ALSO CALL THIS A CASE OF WHITE SUPREMACY. BECAUSE WHITE SUPREMACY MEANS THAT PEOPLE CERTAIN PEOPLE OUR SOCIETY GET A SEAT AT THE TABLE WHILE OTHERS ARE KEPT OUT OF THE ROOM.THIS IS TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN AND THE OUR JOB TO SEARCH FOR IDENTIFYING TIRELESSLY DISMANTLE THE MECHANISMS OF SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT EVEN WE IN BOULDER HAVE INHERITED. AS YOU RECOGNIZE EARLIER THIS WEEK THIS MEETING WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO RACIAL EQUITY AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.THANK YOU THANK YOU SAM AND THEN TANYA PETTY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SANTA OR A MINUS
[91:00] AND FORTY SIX SEVENTY HOLIDAY DRIVE. THIS YEAR WHEN THE MAXIMUM GRANT FOR AFFORDABLE RENTALS INCREASED ELEVEN POINT FIVE PERCENT. THE HIGHEST BY MORE THAN DOUBLED IN TEN YEARS AND THE HIGHEST IN ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS I GOT FROM COUNSEL FOR LIKE THIRTY YEARS. FOLKS CAME TO CITY COUNCIL AND ASKED FOR SUPPORT AND CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T DO SO MUCH AS HOLD A HEARING ON THIS ISSUE.IT WAS PLANTED TO STAFF AND COURIER THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAID PARAPHRASING THAT HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH ISN'T EVEN THAT MUCH.I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY MUCH OF A BEAR PHASE THOUGH MANY SAID THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DATA TO TAHOE WE SHOULD MAKE REGULATORY CHANGES SINCE THIS IS ONLY A SINGLE YEAR. AS IF PEOPLE WANT TO BE PAYING THESE INCREASED COSTS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES AND MOVE OUT AND REPLACED BY RICHER AFFORDABLE RENTERS AND MORE. MOST DAMNING LEADGIVEN WHAT WAS SAID HERE TODAY HE TOLD US THAT MOM. THAT GLAMOUR HERE AND THERE TOLD THEM THAT
[92:00] THEY WOULD NOT CHARGE YOU FOR THE MAXIM RAN AND UNTIL WE HAD EVIDENCE THAT LANDLORDS WERE RAISING UP TO ELEVEN PERCENT NOTHING WOULD GET DONE.I DON'T THINK THAT BURDEN SHOULD FALL ON THE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY NOT. THERE'S PEOPLE WHO'S JOB IT IS TO DO THIS AND THEY WORK FOR THE PEOPLE AND TODAY'S CONVERSATION REVEALED THAT ACTUALLY REALLY WILLING TO USE THE TESTIMONY OF SINGLE LANDLORDS TO JUSTIFY OUR DECISIONS RIGHT.BLAKE THERE'S YOU KNOW GOOD LANDLORDS SAM AND BASED OFF THAT INFORMATION WE CAN MOVE HEARINGS AROUND WILLY NILLY. YET SOMEHOW THE TESTIMONY OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISN'T ENOUGH TO GET COUNCIL TO MAKE A STAND AND ACTUALLY KEEP. HOUSING AFFORDABLE IN BOULDER SO I GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE CRC GRAD STUDENT CAN AFFORD IT.ADJUNCT FACULTY CAN AFFORD IT.THANK YOU TANYA AND
[93:02] THEN JONATHAN BEALE THOSE CLAIMS CAN BE PETTY AND I LET THE FIVE THOUSAND USE TREE VISTA VILLAGE MOBILE HOME PARK.MANY OF YOU ALREADY KNOW ME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN COMING TO BOULDER CITY COUNCIL FOR MANY YEARS OUT OF THE MANY ISSUES OF CONCERN THERE IN OUR PARK.FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT IN REGARDS TO ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE PARKS. WITH THAT SAID I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR A SPELL DICKENS FOR HIRING HER SHE WAS A POWERHOUSE OF THE SYSTEMS FOLLOW US AND HELPED US IMMENSELY. IN GETTING US STARTED AS AN HOA I RELENTLESSLY IN ARE SITTING ON OUR BEHALF AGAINST THOSE LANDLORDS.THANK YOU FOR THE CURRENT CONSULTING GROUP WITH THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE STARTING OF CIA MOB ASSISI IMHO THESE ARE NOW STARTING TO TAKE SHAPE IN GIVING US YOU KNOW VICTORIES. I'M HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO PASS ORDINANCE EIGHTY TWO FORTY NINE TWELVE ELEVEN.I
[94:04] WANNA THANK YOU ALL. HOW I THANK HIM VERY MUCH FOR ALL HIS ENDLESS AND CONSTANT PUSHING TO GET THIS ROOM FROM WAY BACK WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING AT A MEETING YEARS AGO WHICH ARE. NOW GETTING IT ON THE AGENDA.I WANNA THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU MACIEL SHARE WOULD BE HERE TO SAY IT CURSING HERSELF BUT SHE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO COME. I PERSONALLY KNOWN MANY AND INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN FORCED TO MOVE BECAUSE THE OWNER OF OUR PARK NO LONGER ACCEPT SECTION EIGHT. THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE EVER INCREASING COSTS OF RENT FIFTY DOLLARS PER MONTH PER YEAR EVERY YEAR IT HAS BECOME UNAFFORDABLE FOR THE ELDERLY AND DISABLED ON FIXED INCOMES.IF I RECEIVED A TON OF EMAILS I BELIEVE IN REGARDS TO THIS. I ALSO BOUGHT YOUR COPY OF OUR NEWSLETTER FROM VISTA VILLAGE TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT ON HER YEARS IN DUE TIME.
[95:07] JONATHAN AND ELEVENSATTERFIELD I HAVE JOHN BOLTON AT THIRTY EIGHT SIXTY COLORADO NEWBIE. I'VE LIVED IN BOULDER FOR MANY YEARS THAT PRINTED IN BOULDER FOR MANY YEARS SAT IN AWE MOMENT OLDER BUT I'VE WANTED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE. I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT THAT YOU FIND THE MOVING AHEAD ON IT.AH BUT I AM DISAPPOINTED IN HOW THIS IS NOT PUSHED BACK AND FORTH I HEARD A LOT IF YOU SAY THAT. YOU FELT YOU HAD BEEN NA SNICKERED BY MILITIAS LANDLORD AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT BOULDER IS OVER AFTER ENTERS. THE CITY COUNCIL IS OVER HALF ON RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE COUNCIL UP. A HOME THAT'S WANTED YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHY IT IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE TO BE SNICKERED AND HAD THE AGENDA PUSHED BACK AND FORTH AND ON IN THE FUTURE.
[96:12] I WANTED YOU TO THINK ABOUT ON THE OTHER CONSTITUENCY. THAT'S ONE BOULDER LIKES TO THINK OF ITSELF AS A VERY PROGRESSIVE CITY AND I THINK WE NEED TO. PUT OUR ACTION WAREHOUSES AND STAND UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS OF A PROFIT VERY MUCH THANK YOU DYLAN.HEEI'M ALSO HEARING IS JOHN SATTERFIELD ALSO HEAR SPEAK ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE.I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS. ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT AND THAT YOU ARE GONNA MEET ABOUT IT ON THURSDAY. ALTHOUGH I DO WANT TO SAY ON ACA KIND OF SOME SENTIMENTS OF SOME OTHER PEOPLE HERE AND I'M JUST KIND OF SAY THAT. I'M GLAD THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU WERE KIND OF BAMBOOZLED. BY LANDLORDS AND I THINK THAT THERE'S AN IMPORTANT LESSON TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT AND I THINK THAT I'M I HOPE THAT YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND GOING FOR IT.IT'S
[97:04] REALLY THAT IS DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT IT HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK SO FAR SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON. NOW MEETING ABOUT IT ON THURSDAY THINK THAT'S GREAT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO DO TONIGHT BUT THURSDAY'S MUCH BETTER THAN THE OTHER DAY WE HAD. AND I BASICALLY JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M NOW THE BORDERS A HUB OF PROGRESSIVE ISLAM AND WE WANT TO SHOW THAT MESSAGE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD. AND I THINK IN TERMS OF BAR THERE THEY'RE SORT OF MOTIVE IS PROFIT AND IF WHAT THEY CAN DO IS TO PUSH BACK A MEETING. YOU KNOW IN ORDER TO GET THERE WE SEIZED ON THE ARREST OF THE YEAR BEFORE THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.THEY'RE COMING FROM A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND PEOPLE LIKE RENTERS ARE COMING FROM THEY'RE COMING FROM A PROFIT MOTIVE PERSPECTIVE IN THESE PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOSING THEIR HOUSES. AND NEED A PLACE TO LIVE AND I THINK
[98:00] THAT BOULDER BEING THE PLACE. OF PROGRESSIVE ISLAM AND COMPASSION THAT WE'D LIKE TO THINK OF OURSELVES AS I THINK WE SHOULD BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THIS FIGHT AND WE SHOULD BE. REALLY PUSHING HARD TO DO IT SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU CAN DO THIS ON THURSDAY HOPE THAT THE AMENDMENT PASSES. AND I HOPE THAT GOING FORWARD WE CAN KIND OF REMEMBER THE SITUATION AND KNOW THAT THEIR POWER DYNAMICS AT PLAY. THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE POWERFUL PEOPLE AND POWERLESS PEOPLE AND IT'S YOUR JOB AS A GOVERNMENT. AS THE CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK OUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HOLD THE POWER SO I THINK SAW. THE KID WOULD THEN REVEAL NEW CLUES THE OPEN COMMENT ON THE DISPLAY OF PROCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING AVAILABLE THE OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO CALL IN TO GIVE COMMENT.AND WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF TAKERS ON THAT SOLD ME IN THAT PILOTS IN BUT. FOR THE PURPOSES OF TRYING TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS WHO CAN'T GET HERE WE ARE TRYING THAT EXPERIMENT.OK SO IT EVER
[99:11] GOING TO TURN TO THE NEXT ITEM I ACTUALLY SORRY TO SEE ITS STAFF HAS RESPONSE TO ANYTHING AND IT'S BEEN SAID. NO RESPONSE OTHER THAN APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE TESTIMONY THIS EVENING I THINK THE CAKE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE GRAD STUDENTS QUALIFYING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM.SO IS THERE SOMETHING SHE MENTIONED THERE COULD BE STATE LAW THAT PROHIBITED THAT IS THAT IN OUR CONTROL TO ALLOW GRADUATE STUDENTS TO QUALIFY UR IS THE GOVERNMENT THE STATE. SO I'M ASKING CURRENT FIRM HOMBRES TO COME UP AND THINK WE MAY HAVE A PROVISION OR POLICIES WITH REGARD TO THE CURB FOR COVER DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES.SO I CAN TALK ABOUT OUR POLICY.
[100:09] I CAN TALK ABOUT THE STATE LAW THE MEZZANINE PUT THERE SO WITHIN OUR POLICY. WE ALLOW FOR THE FIRST OF ALL THE FOCUS OR FORD HOUSING PROGRAM. IS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE CITY OF BOULDER AND STUDENTS HAVE BEEN BETTER PRIORITY OF THAT HISTORICALLY AS PART OF THE POLICY. HOWEVER STUDENTS THAT ARE EITHER GOING PART TIME. OR IF ONE OF THE SPOUSES WORK IN THE OTHER IS GOING TO SCHOOL AND THEY CAN DO THAT AS WELL SO WE DO HAVE SOME STUDENTS IN OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT IT'S NOT THE TYPICAL FULL TIME STUDENT ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU SHOULD OCCUR WITH UNDERGRADS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHY THAT MIGHT BE BUT GRADUATE STUDENTS ARE. DIFFERENT CATEGORIES ARE TYPICALLY WORKING FULL TIME OR MORE MOST OF THE GRAD STUDENTS WHO WORK IN UNIVERSITY WHEN I WAS THERE WORKING FIFTY SIXTY HOURS A WEEK.SO ARE THERE ANY
[101:09] PROVISIONS THAT CAN BE MADE FOR GRAD STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR SO SEPARATE FROM THE UNDERGRADUATE ARE THERE. WAYS THAT WE MIGHT ADDRESS SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING SQUEEZED MORE THAN A BASE YOU POLICIES ARE. ADDRESSED THE GRAD STUDENTS UNDERGRADS AREN'T ALLOWED TO LIVE IN THE FOUR BARS IN PROGRAM. SO IT'S IT'S TARGETED FOR GRAD STUDENTS BUT BUT AGAIN YOU MUST BE WORKING AT LEAST THIRTY HOURS PER WEEK SO STUDENTS ARE JUST SIMPLY GOING TO SCHOOL FULL TIME WHEN COLE.WHY IS THERE THAT RESTRICTION ABOUT THIRTY HOURS A WEEK.I MEAN AGAIN FOCUSING ON THAT SPECIFIC SITUATION OF THE GRADUATE STUDENT WHICH IS DIFFERENT. THEY'RE OFTEN PAID HALFTIME EVEN THOUGH THEY WORK FULL TIME OR MORE.CERTAINLY WE
[102:02] DON'T NEED TO SOLVE IT NOW BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER ADJUSTING FOR TWENTY HOUR WEEK REGGIE WAS OKAY.PERHAPS SOMETHING ELSE TO ADD TO OUR HOUSING BUST.THANK YOU FOR THAT OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEETING.YEAH I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO THE TESTIMONY REGARDING CARE AND UM I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT WE SET UP. ADVISORY GROUP OF COMMUNITY ADVISORY GROUP TO HELP WITH THE PROCESS.I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL PIECE THAT COULD PROVIDE FOR PERHAPS A BETTER OUTCOMES.SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT. I THINK WE'D RECOMMEND
[103:00] AND IN RESPONSE TO THAT IS PERHAPS A COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE TO START OUT WITH TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE COULD. HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AFTER WE GET THROUGH THE FIRST PHASE OF AND WHICH WILL INVOLVE. GEAR SPEAKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY OF SOMALIA TALK ABOUT BUT THEN I THINK THAT WE CAN HELP DESIGN A PROCESS FOR JUST SORT OF RIGHT NOW ALL. COMING UP WITH THE COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP.I THINK IS NOT A STRATEGIC A DECISION AS IT COULD BE IF WE HAD A COUNCIL SUB COMMITTEE HELPING STAFF WORK ON THAT AND BEING. CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE SET UP SO IF IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND THAT SUGGESTION I THINK WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT THAT'S GOOD THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO I TAKE IT THAT WAY. GREAT THANK YOU SO MAYBE ON THE CAC AGENDA IN FUTURE
[104:00] WEEKS WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHICH CUSTOMERS WOULD WANT TO DO TO SAY THANKS. AND I JUST HAD A QUESTION WHEN UM. AMALIA WAS UP HERE AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT AT SOME LATER DATE YOU WOULD ANNOUNCE THEM WHEN WE KNEW WE WOULD ALL GET SOME INITIAL TRAINING. HOW OPEN WORK THAT THE FOR THE PLEA IF IT WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE IT'LL BE A HIGH LEVEL STAFF TRAINING IN COUNCIL TRAINING. I THINK THAT WE CAN FORESEE A DAY IN THE FUTURE PROBABLY IN TWENTY NINETEEN AT THE END OF THE FAT YOU'RE TWENTY TWENTY. WHERE WILL HAVE FORUMS THAT THE PLURAL FORM OR SIT FOR A FOUR ANYWAY FOR A MAN AND AN OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TO PARTICIPATE IN TRAINING SESSIONS BUT. THAT WOULDN'T BE ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS THAT WOULD BE PART OF MAYBE THE OPERATION ALLIANCE STAFF TO WEAR ON NORMALIZE SO. OKAY
[105:02] AND I JUST THINK OF NOTHING WHEN THE SPEAKER SPOKE EARLIER THAT YOU KNOW RACISM ISN'T ANYTHING NEW TO FOLDER AND SO ERM THINK THE SOONER WE CAN GET THE WHOLE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.MAYBE IT WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME MORE WELCOMING RIGHT THANKS.I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE PRINTERS I THINK WE ARE MEETING WITH UNIVERSITY OR. DISCUSSION ABOUT DIFFERENT ITEMS ON THURSDAY AND I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S ON THE AGENDA THEY WERE SPEAKING ABOUT HOUSING BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WE DO ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY GRADUATE STUDENT HOUSING.SINCE THERE IS A LOT OF UNDERGRADUATE HOUSING BEING BUILT OUT BY WILLIAMS VILLAGE BUT. I SEE ARE NOT VERY QUICK ON THE DRAW WE COULD JUST AT LEAST SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS TO AGAIN BE PICKING UP THE UNIVERSITY'S. HOUSING ISSUES WHEN THEY SHOULD BE TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN.A LITTLE BETTER I ARE MEETING WITH UNIVERSITY IS NEXT TUESDAY AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US ON A FINALIZED AGENDA WHICH THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE.I DON'T
[106:06] RECALL IF HOUSING THE MINCE AND SPECIFICALLY GRAD STUDENT HOUSING IS ON THE AGENDA WILL CHECK WITH CARL CASTILLO AND FIND OUT IF IT'S. ON THERE AND IF IT'S NOT IF IT'S TOO LATE TO ADD IT BUT I. THERE'S ALWAYS A TIME DURING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WHERE. WE SPEAK ABOUT WHATEVER WE WANT TO SALUTE FOR SURE I THINK YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT IT BUT I'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE GETS ON HUGE AND YET OKAY.WE HAD A LOT IF YOU WIN A LOT OF FOLKS CAN SEE TOOTS NIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR DOING THAT ALOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT THE END OF THE LONG MEETING AT THIS PROCESS QUESTION MAY BE A BENEFIT TO THE AUDIENCE PRESUMABLY FREE. HUMAN RACE WORDS ON THE AGENDA OF THURSDAY'S HEARING SET FOR SUCH AN OKAY DAY.YES PROBABLY LIKELY I
[107:08] WOULD THINK OKAY SO WONDERFULLY TO MAKE A STATEMENT. THAT ACKNOWLEDGES AND THANKS THE PEOPLE CAME TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND MAYBE SUGGEST THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO COME BACK ON THURSDAY. REPEAT THEMSELVES SO THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU SAID AND PROBABLY. WE MAY HAVE NEW POPE ON THURSDAY BUT THE BODY CAME TONIGHT PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME BACK AGAIN THURS IF THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO YET ON WHAT HE SAID.I THINK THOSE FOLKS LEFT BUT YES CERTAINLY WE ARE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT AND THEY'RE GETTING EMAILS AND I WILL BE USEFUL.OK SECOND DAY FOR NO APPARENTLY NEW FOCUS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT CONTAINS ITEMS H I K HAS A LUST FOR HER HOW. TO
[108:02] ADDRESSING THE FIRST TIME THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY SEVENTEENTH MEETING WE GOT AN E MAIL FROM THE SHOW HOUSE WORKING GROUP WROTE SENATORS WORKING GROUP. ASKING FOR SOME CORRECTIONS AND I WONDERED HOW THOSE ARE BEING ADDRESSED BY THE CITY CLERK. YES THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CARLO WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AND WE'LL HAVE A RESPONSE TOMORROW TO THAT.THANK YOU OKAY MOM THEY ALSO THIS NOTE WE THREE SPOKE LESS TIME LESS READING A DOUBT ARM SUPPORTING. LET'S GO COLORADO'S TRANSPORTATION MEASURE WHICH IS A STATEWIDE TAX TO ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND TO OPPOSE. THE ALTERNATE BALLOT MEASURE WHICH IS FEATURED AND WROTE ALL MEN SO THAT THERE IS CORN THAT ARE IN DETENTION. OR
[109:00] ANYTHING ELSE I GUESS LEAST. SO I'VE PRACTICED HERE TENSION COUPLE MONTHS AGO BUT ITS AGENDA ITEM THREE I KNOW IT HAS TO DO WITH THE OUTDOOR LIGHT REGULATIONS AND BUILDING PERFORMANCE. ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE COMING TO US FOR MORE DISCUSSION IN SEPTEMBER BUT JUST TO HELP STAFF KNOW WHICH DIRECTION I'M GOING TO BE PUSHING AND CAN NOT BE. PUSHING TO ALLOW AN EXTENSION AND INSTEAD WE JUST MOVE FORWARD AND IMPLEMENT THE ORDINANCE IN NOVEMBER SO I JUST WANTED TO STAY.I WANTED TO SAY THAT STAFF KNOWS WHERE I'M GOING TO BE COMING FROM SINCE I WAS STILL IN HIS PREFACE TO THE CITY OF BOULDER IN JANUARY OF NINETEEN NINETY SIX.IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD THAN TO POINT OUT THAT ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA IS RE APPOINTMENT OF CLIFTON LARSON ALLEN TO BE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL
[110:00] FINANCIAL REPORT.IT'S PRETTY TYPICAL TO KEEP THE SAME AUDITOR FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND I THINK WE'VE HAD A PRETTY GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THEM SO FAR I LIKE THAT THAT'S GOING TO ASK CONSENT PASSES.THIS IS SURELY THIS IS YEAR TWO OR THREE OF A FIVE YEAR ARRANGEMENT THREE. TYPICALLY IT'S GOOD PRACTICE TO TO CHANGE AUDITORS EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO AND SO WE'RE ONLY HALFWAY THROUGH OUR RELATIONSHIP HAS BEEN A VERY POSSIBLE. HOME SALES PROMOTION SECOND QUESTION CASE THE ROLL CALL VOTE WE BEGIN WITH COUNCILMEMBER WEAVER YATES BY YOUNG YES KATE CARLISLE CROWN O JONES OR SELL.NAGEL
[111:09] THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.I SEE IT THE FIRST HEARING TONIGHT A SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE EIGHTY TWO SIXTY FOUR THE OIL AND GAS POLLUTION TAX FOR THE BALLOTS.I'M REFUSING MYSELF UP IN THE KITCHEN.I RUN AND CANDOR TOUGHER ENERGY SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER. IN THE LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER TALKING ABOUT OIL AND GAS ISSUES WAS BACK IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR WHERE WE HEARD THE COMMUNITY. URGES TO
[112:01] DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO LIMIT OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS ON AND RECOVER THE COST BRINGS THE COMMUNITY BY THE EXTRACTION OF THESE FOSSIL FUELS.SO DURING THAT JUNE MEETING COUNCIL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO EXTEND THE MORATORIUM TO JIAN THIRD TWENTY TWENTY.DURING THAT TIME THE CITY'S GOING TO WORK TO DEVELOP REGULATIONS RELATED TO OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT.AND TONIGHT WE'RE BRINGING FOR A DOM ANOTHER PROPOSED BALLOT MEASURE WHICH WOULD TAX DEVELOPERS. TO COVER THE SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE IS CAUSED FROM OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY. SO THIS TAX WOULD BE PLACED ON THE DEVELOPERS TO EXTRACT OIL AND GAS WITHIN CITY LIMITS IT WOULD BE APPLIED TO EACH BARREL OF OIL. FOUR THOUSAND CUBIC FOOT OF NATURAL GAS THAT WAS EXTRACTED WITHIN CITY LIMITS AT THE PROPOSED RATES THE EC THERE. AND THE FUNDS THAT
[113:01] WOULD BE COLLECTED WOULD BE DEDICATED TO COVER THE COMMUNITY COST CAUSED BY OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT WITH ANY REMAINDER GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO FOR CONTEXT OIL AND GAS DEVELOPERS ARE CURRENTLY SUBJECT TO A NUMBER OF GENERAL LOCAL SALES TAXES. SAID GENERAL SALES TAX CONSTRUCTION USE PROPERTY TAXES EXCEPT FOR A THEY'RE ALSO SUBJECT TO A SEVERANCE TAX WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO THEIR INDUSTRY. AND COLORADO HAS AMONG THE LOWEST SEVERANCE TAXES IN THE NATION. WHEN YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE CREDITS AND EXEMPTIONS THE DEVELOPERS TO PAY ONLY ABOUT TWO POINT THREE PERCENT IN SEVERANCE TAX ON THEIR REVENUES AND TWENTY THIRTEEN. BOULDER COUNTY PASSED THE OIL AND GAS ROAD DETERIORATION AND ROADWAY SAFETY AND SO WE HAVE A SNAPPY OR TITLE FOR HOURS AT LEAST. BUT THE INTENT OF
[114:02] THIS WAS TO RECOUP THE INCREMENTAL COST JUST TO THE COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. RELATING RESULTING FROM THE IMPACTS OF OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT AND THEY APPLIED THIS FEE PER WELL AND HER WELL PACK. SOON WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPACTS FROM OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COSTS THAT COME FROM THESE ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN THE KID. EVER RECOVER FROM THIS PROPOSED TAX. ARE TALKING ABOUT DAMAGE TO NATURAL RESOURCES DRINKING WATER CONTAMINATION BROAD ECONOMIC IMPACTS SUCH AS DECREASED PROPERTY VALUE OF NEARBY BUILDINGS AND FARMS. HEALTH PROBLEMS SUCH AS INCREASED CANCER RISK FROM RESIDENTS LIVING NEARBY WELLS DAMAGE TO INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS AND BRIDGES AND THEN FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS WHICH THREATEN SAFETY. UNFORTUNATELY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PUT A MONETARY VALUE ON MANY OF THESE IMPACTS AND THE SCALE IS QUITE LARGE. SO THERE IS VERY INCOMPLETE DATA IF YOU ACTUALLY TRY TO ADD UP THE IMPACTS FROM EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. ON FOOT FOR
[115:05] CONTEXT THERE IS A STUDY DONE IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. THAT IN TWENTY THIRTEEN AN ESTIMATED COST ONLY FOR AIR QUALITY IMPACTS FROM SHALE GAS EXTRACTION. AND IT PUT THAT THOSE IMPACTS BETWEEN FIVE DOLLARS AND TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS PER THOUSAND CUBIC FOOT. ON FOR SHALE GAS EXTRACTION. AND IN COLOR OUT OF THE CURRENT SALE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS IS ONLY SEVEN DOLLARS PER THOUSAND CUBIC FOOT. SO THE SCALE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THESE IMPACTS IS MUCH LARGER THAN WE COULD RECOVER.SO HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DETERMINING THE PROPOSED TAX RATES OR WE FIRST DETERMINED THE SOCIAL COST OF THESE IMPACTS AGAIN BROADLY ESTIMATING THESE BECAUSE IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY.WE USED THE SOCIAL COST OF CARBON AND METHANE THAT ARE PUBLISHED BY EPA. WILL BE COUNTED FOR ALL OF THESE IMPACTS WE FOUND. THAT
[116:00] THE SOCIAL COST WAS IN THE CASE OF OIL ALMOST HALF OF THE SELF PRAISE IN THE CASE OF NATURAL GAS. OVER FOUR HUNDRED TIMES THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS SO FOUR TIMES THINK IM FOUR HUNDRED PERSON A THINKS I REEL AND TOM FROM A MOUND THE HOPE THAT. WE REALLY QUICKLY BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROPOSE TAX RATES BASED ON THESE SOCIAL COSTS. BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT REASONABLE SOO WE ESSENTIALLY SCALE THEM DOWN TO BE ROUGHLY TWELVE PERCENT OF EACH OF THE FUEL SALES PRICES.THAT'S WHY YOU END UP WITH A VERY DIFFERENT PROPOSED PRICE FOR THE DOLLAR PER BARREL OF OIL ON THE DOLLAR PER. THOUSAND CUBIC FOOT BECAUSE IT'S RELATIVE TO THEIR SALE PRICES IN COLORADO AND SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND THE COUPLE WHEN HIS TERM.IT'S A BROADER DISCUSSION HAVING WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND SIMILAR CONCEPTS.YES SO WE MET WITH
[117:01] IN THE CITIES WE'VE MET WITH LAFAYETTE LONGMONT BOULDER COUNTY AND WAS SUPERIOR THERE AS WELL.OK LONGMONT LAFAYETTE AND BOULDER COUNTY TO DISCUSS THIS EARLY ON.LAFAYETTE IS BRING FORWARD A VERY SIMILAR MEASURE I THINK IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.THAT'S MODELED CLOSELY AFTER WHAT BOULDER IS PROPOSING. LONGMONT IS NOT BRINGING FORWARD ANYTHING AT THIS TIME ALTHOUGH THEY ARE INVESTIGATING A NUMBER OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT WOULD. BE SIMILAR TO THE STATES ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED AT THE STATE LEVEL ON BAR IS RAISED BY C REPRESENTATIVE WE SPOKE TO AS WELL.THE QUESTION HAD TO JUST INNATELY. WE CAN OPEN A AREA COME BACK TO IT BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH HOW WE TALK ABOUT THIS SO IT'S NOT CONFUSING BECAUSE THE BALLOT MEASURE THUS PROPOSE. IT READS IN THE FIRST SENTENCE IS SHELL
[118:00] CITY OF BOULDER TAXES BE INCREASED AND IT'S NOT REALLY A TAX ON. THE CITY ITS SIZE SECTION OF THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE AND SO I'M JUST MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS TO BE REWARDED FOR TABOR BUT IT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF TO EASY UNDERSTANDING.SO I JUST WANTED TO LET UP THERE FOR CONSIDERATION AS IF. THEY THINK THAT THERES THIS POINT EARLIER ON FIRST READING JUST THAT. IT COULD EASILY BE MIS CHARACTERIZED AS A TAX ON PEOPLE USING IT AS OPPOSED TO ATTACKS ON THE PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTOOD THAT OUT THERE FOR CONSIDERATION.SO I CAN OR YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS AS BEING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. IS IT POSSIBLE BUT WE CAN APPLY THIS TO PROPERTY RE OWN THAT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS SUCH IS OPEN SPACE PROPERTY. NOW WHY YOU DON'T HAVE TAX AND YOURS.WE HAVE FEATURES DICTION SO COULD WE APPLY THAT C TO OPEN SPACE PROPERTY DRILLING.YOU COULD GENERALLY
[119:10] WHEN WE DO A FEE WE DO IF THE STUDY. TO SUPPORT THE FEE AND THE NEXUS BETWEEN THE IMPACTS WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE INSTRUCTION WAS TO COME BACK WITH ATTACKS.SO I GUESS I WOULD TAKE JUST A COUNCIL IN VIETNAM IN THE INTEREST OF PROTECTING ALL OF OUR PROPERTY IN ALL OF OUR USERS OF BOTH THE CITY LANDS AND OPEN SPACE LANDS.I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO DO A FEE STUDY MAYBE NOT FOR THIS YEAR. BUT UNDERSTAND I MEAN IT COULD BE SIMILAR TO THIS BUT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACTS OF THE DRILLING WOULD BE ON BOTH THE NATURAL VALUES AND USERS. WHO WOULD BE THERE ANYHOW I WOULD JUST OPEN THAT UP TO COUNCILS THAT WE. MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN COMING BACK LATER AND UNDERSTANDING HOW WE PROTECT OUR LANDS FOR PROBABLY. A
[120:01] QUESTION JUST IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT I KNOW EARLIER THIS YEAR AND MAY HAVE MISSED IT THAT WE ATTEST OPEN SPACE TO LOOK AT WHAT PROPERTIES ARE REALLY UNDER THREAT. AND WHICH ONES DID HE OWN THE MINERAL RIGHTS TO TWO AND NINE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMPACT AND IT HASN'T COME BACK AT IT YOU'LL BE GETTING IT IN SEPTEMBER.OKAY SO ANYWAY WE SHOULD BE IN A GOOD POSITION AT THAT POINT AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO LATE.IT MIGHT BE IT WOULD BE TOO LATE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE IT DID FOR ME IT'S SOMETHING. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE EAST AND OIL AND GAS COMPANIES ARE INCREASINGLY VERY. AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF EXTRACTING THE RESOURCES AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ANY OF OUR PROPERTIES WHO ARE PROTECTED. I'D LIKE TO KOLLYWOOD IF YOU STUDY REQUIRE A BALLOT INITIATIVE.OK SO WE COULD DEVOTE LEGISLATION.OK SO WE
[121:03] COULD DO THAT LEGISLATIVE LISA DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THEY. SHOULD SAY WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK THIS AREA IS YOU KNOW IS VERY HEAVILY REGULATED AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PREEMPTION ISSUES AND ON WHETHER. WE ARE WORKING WITH SPECIAL COUNSEL TO TO DEVELOP REGULATIONS FOR OPEN SPACE USE AS COUNCIL INSTRUCTED US. TO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE HAVING A LOOK AT IS CAN WE IMPROVE ON WHAT THE COUNTY'S ALREADY DONE. AND NOT CONFLICT WITH THE COUNTY'S OWN REGULATIONS THE COUNTY AS LAND USE AUTHORITY OVER OUR PROPERTIES OUTSIDE THE CITY. SO THIS IS PART WILL JUST PUT THAT LIST OF THINGS WERE LOOKING AT AND REPORT BACK TO YOU THEY ARE ADMINISTERED TO THE HEARING THIS MANY PEOPLE AND NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP.OKAY ONLY IN BOULDER.OK WE WILL
[122:03] CLOSE THE HEARING ON HEAVY STOCK MORE BUT MY QUESTION ABOUT THE LANGUAGE YET DO WE HAVE TO SO THAT WAY.YES THAT A TABLE REQUIRES YOU TO PUT THAT LANGUAGE AND YOU WILL SAY THAT YOU SEE THAT IT SAYS SHELF STABLE TAX BE INCREASED BY ZERO DOLLARS. OR IN THE FIRST YEAR THAT HELPS BUT SO IS IT HAS TO BE US BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES IMPLEMENTING THE TAX.YES YOU CAN DO IT.OH YA CAN ARM WRESTLE FOR IT. I'VE MOVED TO CONTINUE CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE CITY TO SIXTY FOUR FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION ON SEPTEMBER FOUR TWENTY SECOND OF THE SECOND OKAY.THE ONES HE DOES HAVE TO A NICE STARTING HOMESCHOOLING. I MEAN WE WON'T NEED TO DELIVER THIS POINT BUT I THINK THAT THE SOCIAL COST OF CARBON EXTRACTION ARE THINGS THAT WE
[123:00] SHOULD. IN GENERAL BE UM ASSESSING AT ALL LEVELS AND SO THIS IS IN OUR BACKYARD SO TO HEAR. AND SEE THAT THIS IDEA CAME FROM AND KIND OF AN AD HOC WORKING GROUP OF FOLKS IN EAST BOULDER COUNTY WHO BEEN WORKING ON FIGHTING. OIL AND GAS EXTRACTION IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AS A NEW APPROACH THAT COULD IMPOSE. SOME OF THE SOME OF THE COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN DRILLING EXTRACTION CREE COMMUNITY SO I'M GLAD THEY WERE ABLE TO LEAD THE WAY ON THIS LITTLE BIT. AND THIS IS I THINK OF POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL TOOL IN THE TOOLKIT FOR COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY IN THE FRONT RANGE AS THEY FACE THESE ISSUES AND I WOULD JUST SAY DITTO THAT.AND I THINK IN THE IN THE FACE OF ME SAY NOT ENOUGH LEADERSHIP AT THE STATE LEVEL.I THINK THEY
[124:05] ARE CALLED UPON THE TREE TO MOVE FORWARD AT LOCAL LEVELS WITH OUR NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD ON BETTER PROTECTIONS FOR BOTH. PEOPLE OR COMMUNITIES IN THE ENVIRONMENT.OK SHOW OF HANDS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WAS UNANIMOUS EXCEPT FOR BOB WHO HAS RECUSED HIMSELF.OK THANK YOU KENDRA.THANKS MR. YATES YOU CAN COME BACK NOW AND I MEAN REALLY BIG THANK YOU TO COUNTER THIS WAS TO KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE A LOT OF MATH.HE REALLY RAN WITH IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR NEXT ITEM IS THE CONTINUED SOUTH BOULDER CREEK FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT. STAFF IS GETTING SITUATED AND THEN I REMIND THE AUDIENCE THAT AND WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE HEARING ON THIS MATTER.TWO WEEKS AGO HAS IT BEEN SO NOT IN IT
[125:00] EXCEPT IN A MORE COMMENT. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT FROM STAFF AND GO RIGHT INTO DELIBERATIONS BUT WE'VE BEEN GETTING YOUR EMAILS THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR ALL THE INPUT WE HAVE GOTTEN TO DATE THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL.HI GOOD EVENING CAN YOU HEAR ME. NEVER GOING AFTER ILLEGAL CARRE IS THAT THE EXCELLENCE. AND CONSULTED A CAUSE THAT LUCK. AND GOOD EVENING TIME MOLLY SCARBOROUGH WITH THE PURSE DEPARTMENT AND I'M JOINED BY KURT SAUER HAS THE ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE SOUTH BOULDER CREEK FLOOD VINDICATION PROJECTS. I'D LIKE TO NOTE ALSO IN AUDIENCE WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CITY STAFF AND CONSULTANTS AS WELL AS ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS. AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE URBAN DRAINAGE AND FLOOD
[126:00] CONTROL DISTRICT AND THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO WHO ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.TONIGHT IS A CONTINUATION OF THE SOUTH BOULDER CREEK FIVE INDICATION AGENDA ITEM FROM AUGUST SEVEN MEETING. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED MOTION IS TO PROCEED WITH PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND LEE IN ENTER NEGOTIATIONS FOR ONE CONCEPT VARIATION. THAT HAS BEEN EVALUATED BY THE PROJECT AND WE DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE BEGINNING OF THIS THAT. IF YOU SELECT A CONCEPT NIGHT THAT THIS IS NOT THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS PROJECT. WHAT IT IS DOING IS SETTING THE DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT STEPS OF DESIGN SO WE CAN DIVE INTO THE DETAILS. AND HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY OTHER AGENCIES AND ENTITIES WHO WILL HAVE AN INFLUENCE ON HOW THE CONCEPT IS FOR IT.THIS INCLUDES PURSUING AGREEMENTS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS INCLUDING THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO AND THE COLORADO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SEED AI ANS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH REGULATORY AGENCIES INCLUDING FEE MEANT THE STATE ENGINEER'S OFFICE.THE ARMY
[127:03] CORPS OF ENGINEERS THE U S FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR OWN CITY OF BOULDER WEAPONS ORDINANCE. CONCEPT DESIGN WILL LIKELY CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND IF THOSE CHANGES ARE MINOR.WE WILL KEEP YOU IN THE UPDATED ON THEM. IF THEIR SIGNIFICANT OR PRIMARY DESIGN THEN WE COME BACK HERE FOR FURTHER DIRECTION THE AS NOTED IN LAST MEANING WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED TWO OTHER ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. REVISING THE PROJECT CRITERIA AND DIRECTING STAFF TO CONTINUE TO STUDY ADDITIONAL CONCEPTS SUCH AS UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT TO MEET THE NEW CRITERIA. OR DISCONTINUE THE PROJECT AND RE ALLOCATE RESOURCES TO OTHER FLOOD MITIGATION EFFORTS. TO TONIGHT'S WE'LL KEEP HIS PRESENTATION BRIEF WE ANTICIPATE IT TO BE ABOUT FIFTEEN MINUTES. AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS MEETING GOES INTO DETAIL IN
[128:00] RESPONSE TO A NUMBER OF COUNCIL QUESTIONS WE HEARD THE LAST MEETING AS WELL AS POSTED ON THE HOTLINE ANSWERED THAT FOR EXPEDIENCY. WE WILL FOCUS IN THIS PRESENTATION ONLY ON A FEW TOPICS AND BETTER ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING IN THEM AND I'M.
[129:07] WHEN REVIEWING PERMIT APPLICATIONS.THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS IS REQUIRED TO ANALYZE ALTERNATIVES BUT ACHIEVE THE PROJECT PURPOSE. THEY WILL PERMIT THE ALTERNATIVE THAT IS THE LEAST ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING PRACTICABLE ALTERNATIVE IF I'LL BE REFERRING TO THIS IF THE LEAD TIME. AGAIN THAT SLEAZE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY DAMAGING PRACTICABLE ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS QUITE ENOUGH. TO MAKE THIS DETERMINATION THEY WILL EVALUATE THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT EFFECTS OF ALTERNATE SOME WETLANDS AND OTHER WATERS IN SPECIES LISTED UNDER THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT. IN THIS CASE THE PROBLEMS MEADOW JUMPING MOUSE IN THE LADIES' TRESSES ORCHID FROM. THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS DOES THIS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE U S FISH MY SERVICE. IN ADDITION TO THESE FEDERAL
[130:00] ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING PROCESS IS THE PROJECT WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY OF BOULDER SWELL AND ORDINANCE. WHICH IS TYPICALLY MORE STRINGENT THAN THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS AND TYPICALLY OUR CITY AND FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS SEEK TAKE EXCEED THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE PERMITTING AGENCIES WHEN IT COMES TO MINIMIZING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.WITH THE CONCEPTS EVALUATED BY THE PROJECT TEAM.THE DIRECT IMPACTS TO WETLANDS AND SENSITIVE SPECIES WOULD BE FAIRLY SIMILAR BETWEEN CONCEPTS WITH THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THOSE CONCEPTS.IF COUNCIL SELECTS ONE WE COULD START PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH THE CAR. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO OF THE PROJECT TEAM FEELS THAT ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROJECT DESIGN THAT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE TO ENSURE THAT THE CONCEPT PUT POTENTIALLY SELECTED BY COUNCIL TONIGHT IS DETERMINED TO BE THE LEAD PACK AND COULD LIKELY BE HANDLED THROUGH MINOR CHANGES TO THE PROJECT DESIGN OR MITIGATION PROPOSED DURING PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING.
[131:02] HOWEVER ANY UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT WILL HAVE MORE DIRECT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS COMPARED TO THE CONCEPTS EVALUATED BY THE PROJECT TEAM THAT'S. VERY PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES INDICATE THAT IT COULD HAVE ONE HALF TO SEVEN TIMES THE AMOUNT OF DIRECT IMPACTS OF PROPOSED HOUSE HABITAT ALONE.THAT COUPLED WITH THE FACT THAT THE UPSTREAM CONCEPT WOULD DEAL BUILDS ON THE CU SOUTH USO AREA. WHICH IS AN AREA THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE BE CONSIDERED FOR RESTORATION OF HABITAT THAT MIGHT BE REQUIRED FOR MITIGATION. RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WE COULDN'T CONVINCE THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT THIS WOULD BE THE LEAD. FIRST BEFORE STARTING PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH THE PERMITTING AGENCIES WE WOULD NEED TO BRING EXTRA STORAGE CONCEPT THAT'S THE SAME LEVEL AS THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE SOME. SAY THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND AND COMPARE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS. BEFORE ENGAGING WITH THE PERMITTING AGENCIES WOULD ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO CLEARLY TELL OR STORY. ABOUT HOW WE THINK THE CONCEPT THAT HAS GREATER DIRECT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE SPECIES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHAT. WE WOULD
[132:01] WANT TO BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE THE CONCEPT COULD BE MODIFIED TO REDUCE THOSE IMPACTS. HOW IT COULD REDUCE OTHER POTENTIAL IMPACTS RELATIVE TO OTHER CONCEPTS SUCH AS THOSE THAT MIGHT BE ASSOCIATED WITH GREATER INDICATION OF ITS APPEAL AND INSENSITIVE HABITAT DURING LARGE FLOOD EVENTS. HOW WE COULD SATISFY THE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS AND HOW IN COMBINATION WE THINK THESE THINGS WOULD OFFSET THE GREATER DIRECT IMPACTS. AT THIS STAGE WE CAN DEFINITIVELY SAY THAT THE ABSTRACT CONCEPTS COULDN'T BE TIME TO BE BUT LET PAT. BUT WE DO THINK IT WOULD BE HARDER AND WOULD HAVE A GREATER RISK OF PERMANENT DELAYS TO FIND ACCEPTABLE DESIGN MODIFICATIONS AND MITIGATION FOR ITS PEOPLE.SO WITH ADULT TURNED OVER TO CURT FOR THE NEXT STOP.
[133:02] THANK YOU MOLLY I'LL NOW TALK ABOUT THE FIRST QUESTION THAT RELATES TO GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. SO THE SLIDESHOW IS JUST ONE CONCEPT FOR GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM IN THE CENTER OF THE SLIDE SHOWS. THE PROPOSED MITIGATION FOR DRAWING ON THE LAST SIDE WITH THE DASHED LINE WOULD BE WHERE THE MITIGATION ALTERNATIVES WHICH THE ALTERING OF FIGHTING BACK. AND ALLOW THE FLOOD WALL IS THE CUTOFF WALL OR SHE CAN PILE THAT WOULD GO DOWN TO BEDOK THE LAW MUST BE. GRANTED INTO BEDROCK SO IT DOES NOT FEEL WELL AND THAT MAXIMUM POOL IS FILLED DURING A STORM THAT. SOME MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE PROPOSED GROUNDWATER CAN BE IN SYSTEM INCLUDES BARRY TRENCH SYSTEM ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FLOOD WALL AND THAT SHOWN BY THOSE RED BOXES.
[134:04] THOSE WOULD BE FILLED WITH PERMEABLE MATERIAL AND BURIED IN IT WOULD CONVEY THE WATER WOULD COLLECT THE WATER AND CONVEY IT IN THE TRENCHES. TRENCHES WOULD BE CONNECTED BY A PIPE SYSTEMS AS SHOWN BY THIS RED BOX. THIS HOUR TO CONVINCE THE PIPES WOULD GO THROUGH THE WALL AND BY GRAVITY CONVEY THE GROUNDWATER FROM THE UPSTREAM SIDE TO THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE. OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE ACCESS WHICH WOULD BE IMPORTANT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN THIS CONCEPT THROUGH MAN HOLES PLACED PERIODICALLY ALONG THE FLOOD WAS ENTRENCHED SYSTEM. SO IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT THAT A GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM BE MADE ADAPTABLE SO THAT WHEN WE ARE COLLECTING AND ANALYZING THE GROUNDWATER INFORMATION. FROM
[135:02] THE MONITORING WELLS AND EVALUATING HABITAT CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE TASKED WITH PROTECTING THAT THE SYSTEM CAN BE ADAPTABLE.WE CAN ADAPT THE SYSTEM IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WOULD OVERSIZE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND THAT INCLUDES THE OVERSIZE IN THE TRENCH SYSTEMS OVER SIZING THE PIPE SYSTEMS AND INCLUDING MORE PIPES AND WE BELIEVE NECESSARY. INCLUDING VOWS WHICH IS SHOWN BY THAT RED CIRCLE OUT THERE TO REGULATE FLOWS THROUGH THE SYSTEM. IS IMPORTANT ALSO TURNED OUT THAT. BASED ON ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS BY THE CONSULTING TEAM OUR JH. WE NOW BELIEVE
[136:00] AND NONE OF THE CONCEPTS INCLUDING ANY OPTION CONCEPT COULD ELIMINATE A GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM WITHOUT PERMANENT IMPACTS ON OPEN SPACE PARKLAND. SHOW YOU SEE THE SHOW WE BELIEVE THAT NO SYSTEM NO. CONCEPT VARIATION INCLUDING ANY I'M STREAM UPSTREAM CONCEPT COULD ELIMINATE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM WITHOUT PERMANENT IMPACTS AN OPEN SPACE. MEANING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT IN IN THE URBAN IMPEACHMENT OR DM ON OPEN SPACE PARALLEL TO US THIRTY SECS OR. PARALLEL TO THE CREEK TO PREVENT OVERFLOW FROM FLOWING TO A LOW AREA OVER TOPPING YESTERDAY SIX AND GOING INTO THE WEST VALLEY. SHOW IT IMPORTANT TO
[137:00] NOTE IS THAT ONLY THE FLOOD WALL SECTIONS REQUIRE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM PROPOSED FOR THE NEW TEAM SECTIONS DO NOT SHOW IT OCCURRED. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION AND I GUESS MY QUESTION AND THESE HAD EC SHE CAN ISLES HOW LONG ARE THE EU'S THOSE WALLS. I HAVE A FIGURE COMING UP SHOWING THE LOCATION THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT THE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM ALONG. AND IF THIS GOES FOR TYPICAL RESIGN IT WOULD BE DETERMINED IF THAT'S SOLID OR THOSE COULD BE IF THERE COULD BE BREAKS IN THAT. PILE ON THE QUESTION IS YOU KNOW IS THAT IT CONTINUES OR IS THAT. C DID TAKE A PERMEABLE TYPE OF SYSTEM AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WORK FOR INCOMING
[138:00] READERS I. THANK YOU AND JUST AND I JUST SAID IT WAS FOR MY SHIRT SO THAT FIRMS IF THERE'S A EARTHEN BERM.IT DOESN'T NEED THIS CORRECT ANY FLOOD WALL WOULD ASK. ANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT I THINK WHAT LOOKING AT HAVE A FLOOD WALL. ALL OF THE CONCEPTS TO SEW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD NEED TO BE IN ALL OF THEM HIS WAY OR SAY CORRECT. AND I HAD TO BORROW CRACKED JUST A NOTE. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT A FLOOD WALL IN THE AREAS ADJACENT TO THE OPEN SPACE LAND SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT WE DON'T HAVE FLOOD STRUCTURES ON OPEN SPACE. SAY THAT WE CAN TRY AND FIT WITHIN THE SEA TOP RIGHT OF WAY SAID THAT'S WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT FLOOD WALLS AND IN THAT AREA.IF AN BECAUSE THAT WAS TRACTION DURING THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS TO NINE BUT ITS PERMANENT FLOOD STRUCTURES ON OPEN SPACE. AND
[139:01] WE COULD REPLACE THE FLOOD WALL WITH AN EARTHEN DAM. BUT IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE SEAT RIGHT AWAY AND SO IT WOULD THEN HAVE THOSE PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON HOPE IT'S. JUST JUST CLEAR THINKER CAN SHOW IT HERE THE MOMENT BUT THE FLOOD WALL WOULD ONLY BE IMMEDIATELY ALONG US THIRTY SIX IN CEDAR CREST FOR EIGHT LEAD AND THANK YOU. SO THAT HE KNEW SOME POINT SAY WHAT YOU SAY YOU JUST SAID ILLUSTRATING OUR MAP AND IF YOU GOING TO GET TO IT THAT'S FINE. WE DO HAVE A FIGURE THAT WE CAN PULL UP SO THIS IMAGE THIS SLIDE SHOWS WITH THE RED LINE. BE FOR ALL OF THE CONCEPTS THE AREA THAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THE FLOOD WALL AND THEN AGAIN IT WAS SO THAT WE COULD FIT WITHIN THAT NARROW SEAT AT RATE OF LAME. AND AGAIN THE INTENT WOULD BE
[140:00] TO PROTECT THE HABITAT LOCATED ON OPEN SPACE MOUNTAIN PARK LANDS ON BOTH SIDES OF U S THIRTY SIX. SAID TO LAUGHTER DE ANDRADE OF THIS RED LINE. SO WE'RE NOT SHOWING IT AGAIN ANY OTHER LINES IN HERE BECAUSE THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPOSED CONCEPT SHOW URBAN HYMNS WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE THIS GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM.SO NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE COUNCIL FOLLOW UP QUESTION RELATING TO. VERY INTO THE VERY END SHE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT PROPOSES THE NEED FOR FLOURISHED ACTION AT US THIRTY SIX AND THE CORRESPONDING DEBRIS BLOCKAGE CONCERNS. SO WE PRESENT IT AT OUR LAST MEETING ON THIS TOPIC.THERE
[141:02] ARE REASONS WHY VARIANT TWO WOULD REQUIRE FLOW RESTRICTION. TO PREVENT NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO FOUR PLACES DOWNSTREAM WHICH WE CANNOT DO THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE EXISTING U S THIRTY SIX PITCH OPENING DAY AND YOU CAN SEE UNDER IT.TWO SETS OF LINEAR PARALLEL PEER SYSTEMS. THIS SLIDE PRESENTS A CONCEPT FOR FLOURISH TRACTION AT THE BRIDGE THE EXISTING BRIDGE AS I MENTIONED HAS THE TWO SETS OF PEERS AND THEY ARE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY FORTY SEVEN FEET APART.THE TOTAL EXISTING BRIDGE OPENING.MINUS THOSE PEERS IS APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN FEET WIDE AND VARIES IN HEIGHT FROM ABOUT TEN FEET TO FOURTEEN FEET. THAT CONCEPTUAL PROPOSED RESTRICTIONS WOULD REDUCE THE TOTAL AREA UNDER THE BRIDGE TO ABOUT FIFTY TWO FEET WIDE AND ABOUT EIGHT
[142:00] FEET HIGH. SO THEY PROPOSE FOR RESTRICTION ASSOCIATED WITH VERY INTO HAS RAISED CONCERNS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED A PRE BLOCKAGE. TO STUDIES INDICATE THAT THE PROPOSED REDUCED OPENING SIZE WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE RISK OF DEBRIS BLOCKAGE.THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT LOOKS SOUTH AT THE U S THIRTY SIX BRIDGE SHORTLY AFTER THE TWENTY THIRTEEN STORM. AND SHOWS THAT THERE IS LIMITED TO NO DEBRIS BLOCKAGE AT THE BRIDGE WHEN WE THINK THAT'S BECAUSE THE LARGE DEBRIS MADE IT THROUGH AND IN FACT. THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL DEBRIS BLOCKAGE AT SOUTH BOULDER ROAD BECAUSE AT THAT CROSSING IS SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER. IN
[143:05] ADDITION THE PHOTO THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS A STUDY THAT WAS DONE. SHORTLY AFTER THE TWENTY THIRTEEN EVE AT USING COMPARING PRE AND POST LIED ARE WITCHES TYPOGRAPHY HIM TO ESTIMATE AND TESTING IDENTIFY AREAS OF SUBSTANTIAL SEGMENTATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY.THE GREEN CIRCLE SHOWS THAT LARGE AREA THAT DEPOSITED ALONG SOUTH BOULDER CREEK BUT IT WAS UPSTREAM OF US THIRTY SIX FOR EACH QUESTION BUT. SO WOULD BE CURRENT BRIDGE IS EIGHT HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN FEET LONG AND OPENING THEM STARS UNDER FOURTEEN FEET WIDE LAST APPEARS STRAIGHT THREE HUNDRED AND SEVEN.YES I'M LOOKING TO CHANGE AFTER THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT WAS WRITTEN IN THE WHAT'S THE SIZE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT IT BE BOTH A LARGE OPENING IN THE SMALL OPENING.
[144:01] THE PROPOSED LAW RESTRICTION WOULD BE FIFTY TWO FEET WIDE IN THE CONCEPT BY EIGHT FEET HIGH. AND FIFTY TWO FEET WIDE IS THE MAIN OPENING AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SMALLER. PASS IN RIGHT NOW IN THE CONCEPT THAT PATH WOULD HAVE A FLOOD WALL IN FRONT OF IT SO IT WOULD STAY DRY. DURING MOST OF THESE AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOW WOULD GO THROUGH THAT RESTRICTED TO FIFTY TWO FOOT BY EIGHT FOOT FOR THIS CONCEPT. AND SO THE CURRENT HEIGHT IS YOU SAID TEN TO FOURTEEN FEET CORRECT AND IT WOULD NOW BE DOWN TO EIGHT FEET TALL IN THE CONS HAVE CRACKED THE CASE.AND UM I GUESS THE OTHER THING IS LOOK TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT WHEN THE U S THIRTY SIX. PROJECT WAS GOING THROUGH AND I THINK THE BRIDGE WAS REBUILT. AND THEY MADE IT BIG DEAL OUT OF HOW THE FACT THAT THE BRIDGE WAS ONE HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN TEKONG AND HOWEVER TALL.
[145:00] THE TIME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT THAT IT WOULDN'T RAISE WATER LEVELS VERY MUCH THE FACT OF THE VERY WIDE OPENING WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY. TALKED ABOUT IS NOT HAVING MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON THE FLOOD WAY.SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AT CUTTING IT DOWN BY A FACTOR OF TWO FACTOR OF THIRTY PERCENT IN HEIGHT SO IT'S MINOR STEEN THAT. THE BRIDGE WAS MODIFIED BY WIDTH NOT LENGTH SO SHE DIED WIDEN THE BRIDGE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW CONFIGURATION IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S RIGHT. YEP ME AND TO UNPACK AND WHICH IS COMMON IN THE CITY OF BOULDER ARE NOT COMMON IN OTHER PLACES TO OUR UNDERSTANDING ACCORDING WITH THE URBAN DRAINAGE AND FEMALE.THE CITY OF BOULDER ARE IN OUR FLOOD PLAIN.
[146:05] RE MAPPING STUDIES ESTIMATE DEBRIS BLOCKAGE BY CROSSINGS. BY A STORM EVENT AND THE MAPPING STUDY THE STUDY USED TO DEVELOP CURRENT TEAM OFF THE PLANE ASSUMED TWENTY PERCENT BLOCKAGE WHICH WAS BACK AND CONSIDER CONSERVATIVE. FOR THE EXISTING OPENINGS EXIST IN OPENING TRACK TWENTY PERCENT.SO WHAT YOU ESTIMATE YOU WOULD BE THAT UM HALF THE WIDTH AND HEIGHT SO THE STUDIES WE'VE LOOKED AT DURING THIS CONCEPTUAL PHASE INDICATE THAT. THE OPENING OF FIFTY TWO FEET WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS THE WIT OF BETWEEN TWO UPSET OF THE PIERS WOULD NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THAT AND SO. THOSE STUDIES INDICATE THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE TWENTY PERCENT SO THAT LEADS ME INTO THIS NEXT SLIDE WHICH MAY HELP SOME.SOME OF
[147:11] THE QUESTIONS THE QUESTION CAME WHEN HE WOULD HAVE TO SAY SEE IF THE DANCERS THEM BEFORE WE GET I'M HAPPY TO. COME BACK YET AGAIN I HAVE ANOTHER QUEST TO QUEST SHIRT SO.REGARDLESS OF WHAT I JUST SAID THE OBSERVATIONS OF THE TWENTY THIRTEEN FRIDAY AND A COUPLE OF STUDIES THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS ISSUE WOULD BE EVALUATED DURING. THE MEET TO SIGN A CHANCE TO FIRE MITIGATION MEASURES WOULD BE LOOKED AT DURING THE REDESIGN AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS YOU CAN DO TO MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL DEBRIS BLOCKAGE. ONE IS THAT YOU COULD DESIGN ELEMENTS TO INTERCEPT THE DEBRIS AND SEDIMENT UPSTREAM OF THE BRIDGE OR DEFLECT IT AND
[148:00] HE SAW ON THE PREVIOUS FIGURE THAT NATURALLY OCCURS WHERE. THE G A MORPHOLOGY OF THE STREAM OR THE SEDIMENT DROPPED OUT IN TWENTY THIRTEEN UPSTREAM IN THE BRIDGE.THE KURDS CALM SMILING PUT IAN CONSERVATIVE BLOCKAGE TESTAMENT AND WITH THAT DESIGN AND DEVELOP HIGH YOUR TEAM HEIGHTS TO PROVIDE MORE FREE BOARD AND SO IF IT BLOCKED TWENTY OR THIRTY PERCENT.TOMORROW THEY COULD BUT THAT THE MODEL AND THE CORRESPONDING INCREASE IN VOLUME THAT WOULDN'T GO THROUGH COULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR BY INCREASING THE DAM HEIGHT REPORT. AND NEVER WILL BE TO PROVIDE A BYPASS SYSTEM AND FOR THE CONCEPT THAT WE.
[149:05] SHOWED ON THE SCREEN ON AN EASY WAY TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT. CONCEPT IS NOT ATTACHED TO THE U S THIRTY SIX BRIDGE YOU COULD HAVE A GAP IN THE TOP WHICH WOULD ACT LIKE A CALM. YOUR EMERGENCY DRAIN ON YOUR BATHROOM SINK SO IT FILLED UP IT WOULD SPILL OVER INTO THE ACT. IS ONE EXAMPLE OF A BYPASS FEATURE OR YOU COULD DO COMBINATIONS OF ALL THE ABOVE. THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF THIS CONCEPT IN COUNCIL RECOMMENDS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS THIS ISSUE WOULD BE ANALYZED IN THE REDESIGNED SITE AND WHO IS DUE THE SOUL. THANK YOU KURT FOR FOR THAT.SO IF YOU GO BACK TO YOUR
[150:00] PREVIOUS. FIRM SIDE AND WHERE YOU HAVE THE SEDIMENT PATIENTS OR HOLD THEM WERE DROPPED OUT IN TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN IT WOULD OF BEEN THE SAME IF THE LEVY WAS ANOTHER. BLAST THAT'S ALONG THE MAIN STEM AND THAT'S WHERE THE WATER VELOCITY SLOW DOWN ENOUGH THAT THE MAIN SETTLEMENT DROPPED OUT THERE AND THAT INDEPENDENT AND I. ZOOMED OUT TO THEIR MOST SUBSTANTIAL SEDIMENT ASIAN. UPSTREAM DOWNSTREAM ENTERING NORTH AT SOUTH BOULDER CREEK AND THEN ALSO WHERE THE LOW AREA UPON DID. THEIR SUBSTANTIAL SEGMENTATION IN THE AREA BUT UPON THIS AND THEN EVENTUALLY OVER TOP U S THIRTY SIX. TIGERS DIDN'T ZOOM OUT AND SO I'M JUST TAKING IN FIGURE THREE THAT WAS PROVIDED OR PACK IT IN ENHANCED EASTER FROM VARIOUS OF SEGMENTATION. AND ONE
[151:02] LOOKS LIKE AT PAIGE'S FOOTHILLS AND U S THIRTY SIX WERE THERE LOOKS TO BE SOME KIND OF A DETENTION POND OR SOMETHING.THERE'S A CIRCLE SURROUNDED BY TO DEPRESSION MAY BE SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF BRIGHT RED WHICH IS SRSLY SYMBOL FOR SEGMENTATION.SO THAT'S THE ZOOMED OUT VIEW AND THAT WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE AREA AT SOUTH BOULDER ROAD AND THEN AGAIN AT THAT. LOW NEAR WHERE THE POND HE IS ON ITS USE AS OF RIGHT. AND VACATION HOMES WERE SOLD OFFICIALLY KNOW I'M SORRY IT IN OUR PACKET IS PAGE TWO E D TO MAKE YOU GROUP OF SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY.BUT IT'S A SAME WAY ALL THAT DISTANCE IS A CLOSE UP AND SO ON THIS PAGE AND IT SHOWS THE SEGMENTATION AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING. UM YOU
[152:02] KNOW BASICALLY IF THERE'S AN IMPACT ARE IN EFFECT BY THE BY THE LEVEE AND IF THAT LEVEE HADN'T BEEN THERE WITH ITS SEDIMENT HAVE DROPPED OUT.NOT ON THE MAIN STEM.I DON'T BELIEVE SO IN ANY OF THIS AREA NOT ON THE MAIN STEM HAD HIS THIRTY SIX FOR SOUTH BOULDER ROAD. WARRIOR WHERE HE POUNDED AND SETTLED OUT OF FOUR OVER TOPPING YESTERDAY SIX K AND THEN MEI MEI OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH HIM.THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME RETRIEVE PUT IN A NINE TIME ON COUNCIL AND I REMEMBER BACK. WHEN THEY SAY IN THE LATE NINETIES HE HAD A BIG FLOOD OF THE NORTH BOULDER AND SO THEN WE DECIDED TO BUILD A NEW UNDERPASS IT WAS SAID NORTH BOULDER. STUDY OF FLOOD
[153:03] PROPERTY SO LONG FOUR MILE CANYON CREEK. AND BE BUILT AND THEME AND IT WAS A FEMALE REGULATED BRIDGE. AND WE THOUGHT OH WELL. THAT WILL BE ADEQUATE AND NOW TWENTY YEARS LATER WE FIND OUT THAT IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF AREA UNDER. THE BRIDGE AND THE FREEPORT AND SO I GUESS I'M JUST. JUST A GEOLOGIST NOT A ENGINEER BUT. I'M JUST WONDERING WILL WE COMPETE AT CURING TWENTY YEARS HAVING TO MAKE THE SKIN OF CHANGES I CAN ARE DOING. IN FOUR MILE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT WATERSHED THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE WATERSHED GREATLY IA INFLUENCES WHAT COMES TO TOWN.
[154:03] I KNOW YOU SAW THAT AREA CUZ HE WAS AT THE MOST SEDIMENT MOVEMENT OF ANY OF OUR FIFTEEN. FOUR MILE CANYON BASED ON THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT THIS PORTION OF THE WATERSHED HAS A IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT. THE CROSSING OF SOUTH BOULDER CREEK AT NINETY THREE. HAS WON POTENTIAL TO TRAP SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS IN THERE AND THEY CARRY IT BETWEEN NINETY THREE E AND HEAR US THIRTY SIX IS. FAR LESS STEEP AND REFORM OUR FORMAL BROUGHT DOWN JUST ON MEETING AMOUNT OF SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS YOU POINT OUT A GOOD POINT THAT IT. WOULD BE WHAT WOULD INFLUENCE THE STUDY SHOULD THIS FEAR AND MOVE FORWARD IN COVERING DESIGN HAS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE WATERSHED ITSELF WHICH WILL GREATLY INFLUENCE.
[155:02] THE MOVEMENT AND POTENTIAL DEPOSITION OF SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS FOR A END IT WOULD BE INTERESTING. JUST TO SEE IT EVEN PULLED BACK EVEN FARTHER DOES THIS FIGURE THREE ON PAGE TWO EIGHTY TWO TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED AT NINETY THREE AND ARMED SOUTH BOULDER CREEK.WE HAD ICON ENGINEERING DO THIS SEDIMENT STUDY FOR EVERYTHING WITHIN THE CITY HAS BEEN PART OF THE POSTS FLAWED. FEMALE WORK IT DIDN'T GO TO NINETY THREE UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT THERE IN A PREVIOUS STUDY DONE IN THE LATE NINETEEN NINETY SIX EARLY TWO THOUSAND. THERE WAS A PROPOSAL TO PUT UP A SEVENTY FIVE FOOT HIGH DAM THAT A STEADY AND NINETY THREE THOUGH. IT WAS PART OF THE STUDY AND SO IT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT IN THIS. CITY THEY GET DYLAN AND I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET BACK TO THE FINISH YOU CAN ALSO PLAYBACK.WELL I JUST WONDERED
[156:08] IS SLIDE YOU HAVE ON THE LEFT OF THEIR REFERENCES THE TWENTY THIRTEEN SATURATION EVENT. AND SO I WONDER WHAT HAPPENS IN A ONE HUNDRED OF FIVE HUNDRED ONE THOUSAND YEAR EVENT. IN TERMS OF ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED AND WHERE IF THE AREA IS BLOCKED AND WE HAVE SEEN EVIDENCE OF BLOCKAGES WITH THESE KINDS OF EVENTS HISTORICALLY. ALONG THE FRONT RANGE WHERE WOULD THE OVERFLOW THEN GO WHERE WITH THE WATER THEN OVERFLOW IF IT DOES BECOME CAN IF THE OPENING IS CONSTRAINED. AND WE HAVE THAT KIND OF EVENT RATHER THAN A SATURATION EVENT IN QUESTION AND PUT IN THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE OVERFLOW OR INCREASED AND HEIGHT.IF THE BLOCKAGE WAS GREAT ENOUGH AND FILLED UP THE TENSION ON THE PATH TO VIEW ALL THE WORK FLOW OVER THE SPILLWAY LIKE IT WERE.EVEN IF THERE WASN'T
[157:07] A PRETTY POCKET SCH AND THE STORM EXCEEDED THE DESIGN OVER THAT SPILL WAY DOWN US THIRTY SIX AS IT DOES NOW AND THROUGH THE WEST VALLEY. SO IT WOULD DO THE SAME THING THAT IT DID DO DURING TWENTY THIRTEEN CORRECT.I APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT THE RISK OF BLOCKAGES LOW AND THE STUDY SHOWED THAT AND I WAS ONE OF ALLAH ON THIS TOPIC.AARON HAD SENT A GOOD HOT LIME POST OUT IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE HOURS BEFORE WE STARTED OUR MEETING SO I'M NOT SURE IF PEOPLE GOT TO SEE IT BUT. THE URBAN DRAINAGE AND FLOOD CONTROL. EXPERTS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AS WELL AS FROM OUR JESUS CONSULTANTS AND THAT'S IN GREAT DETAIL BUT I WONDERED IF THERE IS AN URBAN DRAINAGE AND FLOOD CONTROL PERSON
[158:00] REPRESENTATIVE HERE TONIGHT BUT MIGHT ALSO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HER BLOCK ADDRESSES GIVEN THAT THIS IS A CONCERN AMONG YES ABSOLUTELY. SO OKAY JUST FROM A PROCESS POINT OF VIEW I. I HAVE LET AND LET HIS PRESENTATION GET AWAY FROM THE INSIDE POLITICS HOW MUCH MORE DO YOU HAVE BEFORE WE GO CIRCLE BACK TO THE URBAN DRAINAGE AND OTHERS PROBABLY SIX MINUTES.OK OK LA LET U GO AND THE EFFECTS I THINK WE PROBABLY ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE TO CHEW ON HERE. SO IN THE NEXT FEW SIGNS ARE PRESENT A SUMMARY OF THE POTENTIAL TRADE JOBS WITH ANY UPSTREAM CONCEPT. IN UPSTREAM CHURCH CONCEPT REALLY CAN TAKE MANY FORMS DEPENDING ON THE OBJECT IS. LAST MEETING WE PRESENTED IT TO CONCEPTUAL ALL POSSIBLE BOOK AND IT'S BETTER SHUT UP YOU'RE THE ONE AND I LAUGHED STORES. WHICH STORE
[159:04] SUBSTANTIALLY LAST FLOOD WATERS ON THE WAR CALLING UPSTREAM WHICH IS REALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF US. OF THIS USE OF PARTIAL ONE AND THE RATE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE WELL KNOWN KYLE NOW GOING TO THE TRADE OFFS LIKELY OCCUR FROM ANY OPTION CONCEPT. SHOW PROVIDING STORAGE SHE IN THIS SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PARCEL HAS THE FOLLOWING POTENTIAL BENEFITS. OF FREE STORE ENOUGH VOLUME IN THAT SOUTHERN AREA OF THIS YOUSELF PARTIAL IT COULD POTENTIALLY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE VARYING TO FLOW RESTRICTION THAT WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. THE ONLY UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT. COULD REDUCE IN ADDITION THE OPEN SPACE AND MOUNTAIN PARK LIONS. OVER THE CURRENT PROJECT CONCEPT AND
[160:00] THE DEGREE TO WHICH INDENTATION COULD BE REDUCED WOULD BE A FUNCTION OF HOW MUCH VOLUME OR FLOOD WATER STORED IN THAT UPPER PORTION. INCREASING THE TOTAL PROJECT FLOOD WATER STORAGE VOLUME. COULD ALLOW THE PROJECT TO PREVENT OR TOPPING OF US THIRTY SIX DURING A LARGER STAR EVENT THAN A SIMILAR CONCEPT WITH OUT UPSTREAM STORAGE AND IT ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL. TO INCREASE DOWNSTREAM FLOOD BENEFIT ALONG THE MAIN STEM OF SOUTH BOULDER CREEK.HOWEVER AS MOLLY MENTIONED THE POTENTIAL TRADE OFFS FOR UPSTREAM CONCEPTS INCLUDE CRATER IMPACTS TO WETLANDS APPROVALS JUMPING MOUSE AND YOU TO. TRUST YOUR KID AND THAT'S FROM THE STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO CONVEY THE OVERFLOW WATER FROM SOUTH BOULDER CREEK INTO THAT STORAGE AREA IN THE UPSTREAM AREA.
[161:15] AND BUSH WOULD RESULT IN INCREASED RISK OF THE PARADING DELAYS HAND AND LAST IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY OFFSET BY REDUCED IMPACTS IN OTHER PLACES IT MAY NOT MEET THE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. CAN AGE A QUESTION JUST PHILOSOPHICALLY. OR MATTER TO BE PRODUCTIVE PROVOCATIVE BUT IF THERE ARE POTENTIAL INCREASE DOWNSTREAM FOR BENEFITS AND THAT IS OUR PRIMARY GOAL NOT A MALL THAT ENDANGERED FECES ARE CLEAR BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS. THE LEAD BUT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF FLOOD IMPACTS IS OUR PRIMARY GOAL AND DOESN'T THAT TRUMP IF I MEAN WE LOOK AT OUR PRINCIPLES THIS IF THIS WAS. AGAIN NOT JUST THEORETICALLY IT SOMETHING ENHANCES OUR FLIGHT BENEFITS
[162:00] DOESN'T EAT. DOESN'T THAT COME BEFORE YOU MINIMIZE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT HE IS. INCREASED BENEFIT ALONG THE MAIN STEM AND THE ORIGINAL PROJECT GOAL WAS TO PREVENT OVER TOPPING OF US THIRTY SIX AND FLOODING THROUGH THE WEST VALLEY SAID THE ADDED BENEFIT. I WOULD NEED TO TO LOOK TO MARY TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE A FACTOR. THAT THE REGULATORY AGENCIES WOULD CONSIDER TO ANSWER YOUR DIRECT QUESTION AND IF YOU JUST WANT MY GUESTS OR IF YOU NEED A COP AND TOCK.OK THE QUESTION FOR AFTERWARD. SO THIS SLIDE PRESENTS A SUMMARY OF THE MATCH REGISTER THAT THE LIKELY TRADE OFFS OF AN UPSTREAM CONCEPT THE POTENTIAL OBJECTIVES ARE
[163:00] SHOWN IN THE LEFT COLUMN IN. THE GREEN SHADING INDICATES THE UPSTREAM AND UPSTREAM CONCEPT WOULD LIKELY MEET THE OBJECTIVES RED SHADING LIKELY NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS LIE IS TO HELP YOU PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THE PROJECT TEAM.IF WE'RE DIRECTED TO STUDY IN UPSTREAM CONCEPT MEAN THAT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PRIORITY OBJECTIVES YOU'D LIKE US TO TRY TO MEET WITH A NEW CONCEPT. IN ON AN OPTION CONCEPT TO MENTION CAN REDUCE INDENTATION ON OPEN SPACE AS COMPARED TO CURRENT PROJECT CONCEPTS AND COULD ELIMINATE THE U S THIRTY SIX FOR RESTRICTION. UPSTREAM STORAGE COULD HELP REDUCE LIMITATION ON THIS YOU SELL THE LAND USE AREA DESIGNATED AS OVER. THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR MASTER PLAN IN GRAHAM ON CONCEPTS IF
[164:00] IT WAS USED IN CONJUNCTION. BEGAN HOWEVER DEVELOPING UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT WOULD RESULT IN PROJECT DELAYS FROM DEVELOPING AND ANALYZING THE CONCEPTS ALONG WITH THE POTENTIAL PERMITTING UNTIL HE RISKS. WOULD ALSO LIMIT THE ABILITY TO ENHANCE AND PROVIDE GREAT CARE IN CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THESE TO USE OUR OPEN SPACE.OTHER LAND USE DESIGNATION AND SOUTH BOULDER CREEK RIPARIAN AREA AND THAT WAS AN OPEN SPACE BOARD TRUSTEES RECOMMENDED DESIRE TO FIND ME.AS MENTIONED EARLIER NO CONCEPT INCLUDING UPSTREAM CONCEPT WOULD ELIMINATE THE GROUND OUR SYSTEM WITHOUT DIRECT IMPACTS TO OPEN SPACE. AND IF NEED BE WE DO HAVE AN IMAGE THAT WE CAN PULL UP FOR THAT PEOPLE TURN BUT COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THE SECOND TO LAST ONE.THE PURSUITS USE OF
[165:04] THE SOUL AND HABITAT ENHANCEMENT CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT ALLOWED THE SECOND LAST ONE MEANS THAT THAT. WAS WHAT I MEANT BY GREAT NOW THAT THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS USE AL USO. IS THE ONE THAT IS DISSECTED BY THE EXISTING LEVEE SYSTEM BUT IT IS CLOSEST TO THE OPEN SPACE MOUNTAIN PARKS AND HYPERION AREA SAW ON THE FAR SOUTH. EAST PORTION AND IT CIRCLED BY IT SAID LARGE RED CIRCLE IN THERE AND OPENS PORES SPACE FOR TRUSTEES HAD A DESIRE TO. SECURE AND ENHANCE THAT AREA FOR HABITAT AND CONNECTIVITY TO THE REAPER HERE IS WHAT WAS MEANT BY THAT. IN UPSTREAM CONCEPT
[166:00] DEPENDING ON. HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IN IT SO THE BOOK AND THAT WE SHOWED WITH THE LARGE VOLUME SHOWED UP BIG FIRM ADM ALL THE WAY AROUND SO THAT WOULD. ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO HAVE. THE DIRECT CONNECTIVITY FOR A PERRY AND IF IT WAS LAST STORAGE PROVIDER THERE AND HAD TO DO MORE OF THE PERPENDICULAR PERM JUST THERE WOULD BE CONNECTIVITY BUT. MAYBE LAST IN THE OVERALL ENHANCEMENT ABILITY BECAUSE THEY ARE PERMANENT STRUCTURES AND THERE IS WHAT WAS MEANT BY THAT.OK YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS QUESTIONS I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF WHAT BOBBY'S REPAIRS IS REFERRING TO IS WELL WAS BARELY. ANSWERED IN DEPTH LAST TIME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH OF DOING RECLAMATION AS OPPOSED TO DAMAGING LANDS THAT HAD NOT HAD RECLAMATION DONE THAT WERE ACTUALLY NATURAL LANDS AS THE NATURAL STATE AREA.YES
[167:07] AND SHOWED A FIGURE LAST TIME THAT WAS PREPARED BY BY HABITAT. IDENTIFYING THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS USE OUR THEORY OF THAT HAD THE GREATEST CONSERVATION POTENTIAL. AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROJECT MITIGATION WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO DO. FOR PERMITTING PURPOSES WHEN WE PLACE ANY PERMANENT STRUCTURES OR RESOURCES VERSUS ENHANCEMENT WHICH WOULD BE WHAT OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS ASKING. SO THERE IS A DISTINCTION BETWEEN MEDICATION WHICH IS REQUIRED AND ENHANCEMENT WHICH IS DESIRED.HOW YOU'RE SPEAKING AT THE QUESTION HONESTLY AND INTO CITIES POINT BUT UPSTREAM OPTION WOULD ALSO INCLUDE GREATEST DIRECT IMPACTS TO SENSITIVE HABITAT AS WELL RIGHT.CORRECT CORRECT IN THAT FAR LEFT CIRCLE AREA.
[168:02] I'M A COMEBACK TO THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I AGREE WITH THAT HOWEVER WANDER BACK TO THE RED BAR REBAR. AND SO IT IS THE CASE THAT. THE GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM HAS TO BE IN PLACE FOR OPTIONS IS A CORRECT SO THE RED BAR HERE IS NOT MUCH OF A DISTINCTION. WITHOUT A PERMANENT IMPACTS TO OPEN SPACE LAND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FLOOD WALL VERSUS EARTHEN BERM AND THE WITH WE'RE TRYING TO FIT IN WITHIN THE SEED I. AM NOT FOLLOWING THEM IS. YOU SAID EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT ANY VARIANT THAT WERE LOOKING AT ANY KIND HAS A GROUND WATER TRANSPORT SYSTEM TO GET GROUNDWATER FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. OF THIRTY SIX TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THIRTY SIX IS THAT ACCURATE CORRECT. SO WHAT ABOUT THIS OPTION IS WORSE THAN OTHER VARIANTS.
[169:06] IT'S NOT WORSE WE PUT IT UP THERE TO REALLY CLARIFY BECAUSE LAST TIME WE SAID IN UPSTREAM CONCEPT AND MAYBE ELIMINATE THE GROUNDWATER COMEDIANS REALLY TALK OR ACT. IN OUR PREVIOUS STATEMENT BASED ON MORE ANALYSIS IS WHY IT'S REALLY UP THERE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO MISCONCEPTION THAT. UPSTREAM WOULD HELP THAT WITH OUT IMPACTS AN OPEN SPACE LEAVE THE REST FOR LATER.THANKS K KEEP QUICKLY.THANK YOU AND SAY OH THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROJECT DEPEND ON COUNCIL ACTIONS NIGHT IF HE SELECTS ONE OF THE CONCEPTS ARE RE EVALUATED BY THE PROJECT TEAM. THEN WILL PROCEED INTO THE NEXT STEPS THE PLENARY DESIGN INCLUDING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE VARIOUS PERMITTING AGENCIES AND LANDOWNERS CC DIED AND IF DISPOSAL OF THOSE EMPTY LAND IS NEEDED.BT AS AN IMMEDIATE NEXT STEP WE GO TO
[170:00] PLANNING BOARD ON SEPTEMBER AND COME BACK TO YOU ON SEPTEMBER TWENTIETH. TO DISCUSSING GET FEEDBACK ON PLANS FOR HOW TO PROCEED WITH ANNEXATION PROCESS AND ASSOCIATED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT.IF YOU CHOOSE TO DIRECT STAFF TO STUDY IN UPSTREAM STORAGE CONCEPT OR OTHER CONCEPTS FURTHER. AND BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PLACE HOLDER ON YOUR AGENDA ON SEPTEMBER TWENTIETH.WE COULD ALSO REPURPOSE THAT AGENDA ITEM UNDER MATTERS TO PROVIDE AN OPTIONAL CHECK IN WITH COUNCIL. AND AT THAT CHECK IN WE COULD GET FURTHER CLARIFICATION ON PROJECT CRITERIA IF NEEDED. OR SIMPLY
[171:02] SHOW YOU DIAGRAMS OF HOW WE'VE APPLIED THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'VE DISCUSSED TONIGHT ME TO YOU AN ILLUSTRATION OR A DIAGRAM OF BACK ON FATS. AND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION HE SORT OF SEE IT ON PAPER AND FEED AN IMAGE. AND DO YOU WANT TO REITERATE THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE PROVIDED A LOT OF DETAIL ABOUT THAT POTENTIAL CONCEPTS AT YOUR REQUESTS TO HELP COUNSEL DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE CONCEPTS. IN ORDER TO REACH A DECISION WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF DESIGNING AN ANALYSIS TO DO. AND THE CONCEPT OF ANTS AND HAD TO DESIGN FOR THE CONCEPT AND PURSUE PERMANENCE AND AGREEMENTS. AND THE PURPOSE OF PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING WHY IT'S CALLED PRELIMINARY IS TO FURTHER REFINE THE CONCEPT AND PURSUE AN AGREEMENT. TO DISCOVER IF THERE ANY FATAL FLAWS AND THEN ADJUSTING THE DESIGN TO ADDRESS THEM IF POSSIBLE. ADD THIS INCLUDES UPCOMING CONVERSATIONS WITH C AROUND ANNEXATION WE CAN PREDICT AT THIS TIME WHETHER WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT OR NOT.SIMILARLY WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH C DIED.WE HAVE A LETTER
[172:02] FROM THEM DURING THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS SAYING WE CAN CONSIDER USING PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.HOWEVER STAFF IS CHANGE AND WE WOULD NEED TO WORK THREE THE DETAILS OF AN AGREEMENT THAT CLARIFIES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TEAM STRUCTURES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. WILL ALSO BE REVIEWING THE DESIGN WITH TEAM AT THE STATE ENGINEER'S OFFICE AND PERMITTING AGENCIES EACH ONE WITH A FOCUS ON DIFFERENT DETAILS OF THE DESIGN. SEMI BETWEEN AS THAT THEY'RE STILL A LOT OF WORK TO DO. A LOT OF PUZZLE PIECES TO FALL INTO PLACE BUT WE NEED DIRECTION ON A CONCEPT IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH COORDINATING THESE DETAILS SO WE APPRECIATE WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU CAN GIVE US TONIGHT.THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE CAN OPEN UP TO QUESTION THINKING. OKAY SO I PROPOSE THAT WE HEARD WE PICK THESE BIG TOPICS AS WHEN YOU COUNT A LOT TO DISCUSS WHICH NO ONE HEARD HERE FROM URBAN DRAINAGE.I SUGGEST WE LIKE
[173:06] DEBRIS. AND FINISH DURING THE THREE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE GO TO UPSTREAM OR GO TO I DON'T CARE WHAT ORDER BUT THERE'S THREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING DOES THIS REBATE ONCE. BEFORE WE GO THERE I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT VERY LAST SLIDE ABOUT THE TIME LINES SOMEONE AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE IT BEFORE ME. IN THE HEARING NOTED THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE IN TANDEM THERE'S ANY REASON TO HAVE THE SAYINGS STRETCH SO FAR OUT. THAT THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT THINGS STAND AND IF I HAD THE MINUTE I'M SURE I CAN FIND IT MAYBE YOU REMEMBER WHO. DID SAY THAT BUT IT WAS SOMEONE WHO DID HAVE SOME ENGINEERING BACKGROUND. AND SO IN OTHER URGENT NEED TO. GO I THINK IT WAS ANNEXATION AND PRELIMINARY DESIGN OR SOMETHING CAN GO TO THE ASININE IS OUR PLAN TO COME ONCE A CONCEPT IS SELECTED IN WE CAN. AND
[174:04] UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE ARE ASKING FOR REGARDING FLOOD MITIGATION ON THE SEESAW PROPERTY AND THEN WE WOULD PROCEED WITH THE ANNEXATION CONVERSATIONS DURING PRELIMINARY DESIGN.IT'S CHALLENGING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CU. HAD DOUBTS THAN MANY OTHER THINGS OF INTEREST AROUND ANNEXATION WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH LAND WE WOULD NEED FOR THE FLOOD MITIGATION PROCESS SO. WE WOULD IF THEIR GOAL IS TO STUDIES AND CONCEPTS FURTHER WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THOSE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL BECAUSE AS KURT SAID THE BOOKENDS OF AN. UPSTREAM CONCEPTS ARE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER ON IN SO WE WOULD REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CONCEPTS WERE LOOKING AT BEFORE WE ENTER INTO ANY SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION SURROUNDING ANNEXATION.THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION THAT. SCRAPES
[175:01] THE DENTIST AWAY ON THAT HOLE YOU TALK ABOUT. COMING BACK TO US IN NOVEMBER ON THE TREE MODEL THAT IS OR EARLIER STAGE BEFORE NOVEMBER THAT HE BE ABLE TO AT LEAST HAVE AN INDICATION ABOUT THE IMPACT AND SEE YOU.SO AGAIN THAT SEPTEMBER TWENTY AT THE OPTIONAL CHECK AND WE THINK THAT WE COULD AND SHOW YOU A DIAGRAM SIMILAR TO THE BOOK IN DIAGRAMS THAT WE SHOWN. JUST AN ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AND SAYS SEE IF THAT IF WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND IN THAT CASE AND BACK COULD BE PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THANKS. AND AGAIN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT REGARDING THE ANNEXATION PROCESS TO THAT DEGREE WE COULDN'T AFFORD WITH. THAT TICKET FOR NOW SHALL WE GO BACK AND TACKLE DEBRIS THAT'S ALL GOOD THOUGH SOMEONE IS FROM HERE FROM URBAN DRAINAGE.GUESTS
[176:10] CAN YOU YOU WANT TO RE ASK YOU IS YOUR QUESTION OR. ANOTHER THERE I CAN SEE CAN THINK SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT AND MAYBE CONCERT INTRODUCE HIS SON KEN MCKENZIE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE URBAN DRAINAGE AND FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT.I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE JIM WATT AND GM AND ANDY UP STRUCTURAL ENGINEER ROD TYSON BRAUN WILL ANSWER THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN. I'M HERE TO PROVIDE SCORES FIRST PHILOSOPHY AND POLICY. REGARDING REGARDING THAT SIDE AND END OF THE DEBRIS BLOCKAGE IN THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE BRIDGE AND THAT SORT OF THING. I CAN TO SKI A LITTLE BIT OF OVERVIEW IF YOU WANT AND THEN TURNED OVER TO JIM DOES THAT SET SOME GOOD. IF I COULD JUST FRAME IT IN TERMS OF EXPLAINING TO US THE SAFETY OF THE FLOW RESTRICTION AND WITH REGARDS TO DUPREE POCKET FOR MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE OF THE ACTION AND OR PRINT.THANK
[177:07] YOU SO IN THE FLOOD CONTROL BUSINESS WE HAVE WE HAVE ONLY A FEW OPTIONS REALLY ARE AT OUR DISPOSAL. OPTION NUMBER ONE IS CONVEYANCE AN OPTION NUMBER TWO STORAGE SO WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH FLOODWATERS.YOU EITHER BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONVEYS FLOODWATERS EFFICIENTLY. AND SAFELY TO A POPULATED AREA. OR YOU BUILD STORAGE THAT HOLDS BACK FLOODWATERS AND RELEASES THOSE FLOODWATERS SLOWLY. SO THAT THE DOWNSTREAM INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH PRESUMABLY IS INADEQUATE CARRY THE FLOOD CAN CARRY THOSE CONTROLLED FLOATS THOSE THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE. THE THIRD TO OF COURSE IS NOT TO DEVELOP IN FLOOD PRONE AREAS BUT. WE YOU KNOW WE WE DEVELOPED THIS AND TIRED FEET ARE FOR RANGE AREA LONG TIME AGO BEFORE WE REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE SCIENCE BEHIND FLOODING. SO WE DID THE MASTER PLAN FOR SOUTH BOULDER CREEK WE REALIZE THAT THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF SOLUTIONS WITH HER CONVEY AND SOLUTIONS WE HAD OUR STORAGE SOLUTIONS.QUITE OFTEN TIMES
[178:00] WE WILL USE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO TO GET WHERE WE WANNA BE.IT WAS APPARENT TO ME IN THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS THAT THE MOST LOGICAL. TO LETTERS DISPOSAL WAS AN EARTHEN DAM. UPSTREAM OF US THIRTY SIX IN IN THE BOULDER CITY OPEN SPACE AREA BECAUSE THE CITY OWNED LAND HAD CONTROL OVER WHAT'S GOING ON UPSTREAM. ON THIS THAT IT WAS THE DESIRED CITY NOT TO DO THAT. AND AND I RESPECT YOUR REASONS FOR THAT UNDERSTAND THAT I GREW UP IN BOULDER I LOVE THE OPEN SPACE MYSELF. BUT WHEN YOU REMOVE THAT OPTION FROM THE TABLE ALL THE OTHER OPTIONS GET COMPLICATED THING AND GET EXPENSIVE AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONCRETE WALLS. AND SEEK OUT WALLS AND DE WATERING AND WORKING WITH N C DOT. RIGHT AWAY AND THESE THINGS WHICH ARE MORE COMPLICATED MORE EXPENSIVE AND HARDER TO ACHIEVE DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T DO IT JUST MEANS THAT THIS IS WHERE
[179:00] WE'RE AT HOME. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT RESTRICTING AN OPENING BUT IT'S A CULVERT OR BRIDGE SHE DO THAT FOR. USUALLY DO THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT YOU HAVE A SITUATION DOWNSTREAM OF THAT OPENING THAT WHERE YOU DON'T WANT THAT MUCH WATER TO GET GET TO IT THAT QUICKLY. YOU PUT EVERY STRICTER ON IT TO HOLD WATER BACK. AND RELEASE THE DATA CONTROL GREAT. ICING THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE SITUATION WE DON'T WANT ALL THE FLOODWATERS RACING THROUGH THAT BRIDGE OPENING GOAL IN ITSELF A CREEK DOWNSTREAM. WE WANT THEM TO GO TO FILL UP THE DETENTION BASIN IS BEING DESIGNED IN THE OPEN SPACE AREA. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK DOWNSTREAM AND SEE WHAT THAT CHANNEL CAN CARRY AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK UPSTREAM AND SEE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE WATERS BACK UP WHAT LAND GETS INUNDATED WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.I THINK THIS TEST AND A GREAT JOB WITH REVIEWING THE DEBRIS BLOCKAGE OR KNOWLEDGE IN WHAT TALK ABOUT THAT AND RIGHT EYES AND BROWN. ON I DO WANT
[180:01] TO SAY THAT ALONG US THIRTY SIX JUST SOUTH OF HERE IN THE CITY WESTMINSTER THERE'S A CROSSING OF ANOTHER CREEK ITS BIG DRY CREEK. AND U S THIRTY SIX BRIDGE OVER BIG DRY CREEK IS INSUFFICIENT TO CARRY THE ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD. WITH ANY FREE BOARD SO IF THE BOARD MEANS THE SPACE BETWEEN THE WATER SURFACE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BRIDGE.SO THIS SHOULD BE SOME DAYLIGHT IN THERE SO THAT IF A BIG TREE COMES THROUGH IT CAN FLOW THROUGH AND NOT GET CAUGHT AND THE UNDERSIDE OF THE BRIDGE. THAT BRIDGE OVER BIG DRY CREEK WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF CHURCH AVENUE CHURCH RANCH BOULEVARD I THINK. IS INADEQUATE TO DO THAT SO IN THE EVENT OF A ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD OR A GREATER THAN TO REMEMBER THERE ARE ALWAYS GREATER EVENTS. ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE DESIGN TOO BECAUSE CONSIDERED BY SOCIETY AS AFFORDABLE.IT'S OUR NATIONAL STANDARD BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE THE AFFORDABLE STANDARD. THAT
[181:02] BRIDGE CAUSES WATER TO BACK UP AND WE STUDIED THIS IN THE NINETEEN EIGHTIES AND WE REALIZE THAT. IF WE MADE THAT BRIDGE BIGGER THE WATER WOULDN'T BACK UP ON THE UPSTREAM SIDE BUT WE DID CAUSE FLOODING ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE.SO IN ORDER TO PROTECT AND DEVELOP TERRY WITH INADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE DOWNSTREAM SIDE OF U S THIRTY SIX.WE ENTERED INTO AN IGA WITH THE SEA WESTMINSTER TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING CAPACITY FLED CARRYING CAPACITY OF THAT BRIDGE OPENING WHICH MEANS WE DON'T WANT THAT BRIDGE TO BE BIGGER.EVEN THOUGH IT'S INADEQUATE TO CARRY THE ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD WITH THREE BORED.IN FACT IT BACKS WATER UP BUT IT BACKS WATER UP ON TO PUBLICLY OWNED LANDS. THAT THE CITY OF WESTMINSTER HAS UNDER THE CONTROL ON THE UPSTREAM SIDE OF THE BRIDGE AND DOESN'T DAMAGE CROPS AND DOWNSTREAM SITE FOR THESE ARE DECISIONS WE MAKE. ON CLEAR CREEK BETWEEN ITS CONFLUENCE WITH THE SOUTH PLATTE RIVER AND THE CITY OF GOLDEN.THERE ARE NUMEROUS BRIDGES WHICH ARE INSUFFICIENT TO CARRY THE ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD WITH ANY FREE BOARDED ARE IN EFFECT A BACKWATER UP.IT'S NOT IDEAL
[182:05] AND IF WE WERE TO DESIGN IT. WITH A CLEAN SLATE WE WOULDN'T DO IT THAT WAY BUT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE WE DO PUT RESTRICT OR PLATES OVER CULVERTS. WE DO REDUCE SIZE OF BRIDGES TO PREVENT DOWNSTREAM DAMAGE CONTROL IN THE BACKWATER SITUATION UPSTREAM SO THAT'S. THE OVERVIEW PHILOSOPHY WOULD YOU LIKE MEAT ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO GET READY INTO THE ACTUAL DEBRIS CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS BRIDGE WITH JIM WATT AND LINED EYES AND BROAD PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A FILLER POLICY THE TIME SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT FREE BOARD.MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S TWO DEFINITIONS OF FREEPORT RIGHT ONE IS THE SPACE BETWEEN. THE BOTTOM PART OF THE BRIDGE AND THE WATER AND ANOTHER IS THE EXCESS HEIGHT THAT YOU BUILD A DAM TO TRY TO CONTAIN EXTRA GUESTS. ON THE REAL CLEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING NOT THE OTHER.
[183:11] SO WHAT DOES THE POLICY IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD DESIGN PRINCIPLES LONG YZERMAN PHILOSOPHICAL HERE. IF YOU'RE IN THE BRIDGE TO TO NOT BACK UP BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM WE BACK UP WITHOUT THE DAM.WHAT KIND OF FREE BOARD BETWEEN THE WATER AND A PARADE SURFACE WOULD YOU PLAN FOR FOR. A FLOOD EVENT WOULD YOU BUILD FOR A ONE HUNDRED YEAR TWO HUNDRED YEAR HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THAT GIVEN TODAY'S CLIMATE IN TODAY'S BRIDGE BUILDING STANDARDS. IN OUR URBAN STORM DRAINAGE CRITERIUM ANNUAL WE THE STATE THAT BRIDGES SHOULD HAVE FREE BOARD THAT IT'S CRITICAL TO CARRY DEBRIS.WE DON'T SPECIFY WHAT THE VALUE IS BUT WE DO REFER TO THE ONE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD BECAUSE THAT IS THE NATIONAL STANDARD.SO WE WE REFER THE READER TO LOCAL JURISDICTIONS CRITERIA OR IF THERE ARE NONE TO GO TO
[184:00] THE STATE. THE STATE HIGHWAY DRAINAGE MANUAL AND THEY DO HAVE CRITERIA WERE IN WERE IN THE FLOOD CONTROL BUSINESS WERE NOT IN THE TRANSPORTATION BRIDGE BUSINESS WE DON'T BUILD BRIDGES. WE BUILD STREAM STABILIZATION AND UNDERNEATH BRIDGES BUT WE'LL LEAVE IT TO THE TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE TO BUILD BRIDGES AND TO DESIGN THE FREEPORT. AND I'M SURE C DOT WOULD HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS SO THAT WAS ANOTHER FOLLOW UP QUESTION I HAD.WE CAN MAKE SOME ARBITRARY RESTRICTION DECISIONS BUT TO SEE DOUG AND I WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE BRIDGE NOT BEING WASHED AWAY. AND SOME OF THAT C DOT WILL DEFINITELY HAVE AN OPINION ON THIS YES OKAY UM IT'S THE RICH. YESTERDAY SO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT OF WHAT THAT OPINION MIGHT BE LIKE ATWOOD THEY APPROACH THIS YEAR WE'VE WE'VE TAKEN. THE CLEAR AREA OF THE BRIDGE FROM ABOUT THIRTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF THEM FOR THE DRAMATIC CHANGE.WHY DO YOU THINK TORY ACTIVISTS BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR
[185:00] SENILE I WOULD I KNOW THAT C HAS A LOT OF BRIDGES THAT ARE UNDERSIZED.THIS IS DIFFERENT AND HAVING OTHER SIDE.SPIRIT HAS TAKEN UMBRAGE THAT MAYBE IS NOT UNDERSIZED AND UNDER SIGH SEEING IT SO. I THINK HE WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT WHETHER THEY AGREE WITH OR NOT I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER THAT FOR THEM. IF I COULD INTERJECT REAL QUICK AS AN EXAMPLE CURRENT EXAMPLE ON FOOTHILLS PARKWAY IS A HUGE HIGHWAY AND THE WANDERING CREEK PROJECT WHICH IS MOSTLY COMPLETED.THEY ALLOWED US TO PUT RESTRICT OR PLATES ON THE SET OF CULVERTS. WE UNDERSTAND WAS THAT JUST ONE CROP WAS IN THE BRIDGER WAS A COVER SET OF CULVERTS YES THANKS. FOR THAT BECAUSE OF
[186:02] THE DEVELOPMENT DOWNSTREAM OF THE UNDERLINED WORDS ARE PUTTING IN THOSE FIRST REACTORS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE DEVELOPMENT HAMSTRING.IT'S REALLY BECAUSE UNTIL WE COM GET TO DOING THE TRICK IS UNIQUE IN THAT THE PROJECT RECONNECTED THE CREEK TORTURED GO AND THAT INCREASED FLOW WOULD HAVE CAUSED DOWNSTREAM NEGATIVE IMPACTS. SO WE PUT PLATES ON THE CULVERT UNTIL SOMEDAY. WE COULD DO THE STREAM ARE COUNTING BUT THE EXAMPLE IS TO SEE THAT DID ALLOW US TO PUT PLATE ON THE OKAY UM MAYBE. IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFICS. FOR THIS PROJECT ARE WE WHO EVEN HANDED OFF TO WHAT WERE THEY GOING TO SUCH A MODEST MY COLLEAGUE WITH THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT AND NINETY ONE TO TAKE OVER A SODA.THEY EMAIL YOU REFER TO OTHERS.I
[187:04] ACTUALLY SENT OUT SOME OF THE ANSWERING QUESTIONS FOR THAT DAY I WOULD SAY THAT JENNA EMAIL PROBABLY JUST ECHOED WORKERS HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATIONS THAT. WE HAVE THESE MULTIPLE TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE TO ADDRESS KIND OF CAULKING ISSUES. ON WHICH TO BE FREE BOARD BUT IN THIS CASE FOR HOW TO TALK ABOUT POMPEII FOR TWO HOURS AND SEE YOU DESIGN. YOUR HUNDRED YEAR WATER SURFACE OR FIVE FOR YOUR SERVICE AS FIFTY TO EIGHTY. TYPICALLY URBAN CHANGE WE WOULD ADD A FOOT ON THE SO WE SAT ARD AND SAY FIFTY TO EIGHTY ONE. IN THIS CASE WE COULDN'T BUT WE ARE CONSIDERING THINGS SUCH AS BLOCKAGE OR WHAT NOT MEAN WE WE CAN THEN ADD THE ADDITIONAL FREE BOARD ON. THAT FIRST OF MAY WAS TWO FOR THREE FOR THE STATE OR THE SECOND HALF. AND THEN THERE'S THERE'S ALSO DEBRIS CATCHING MATH IS A QUOTE HEARD IT SAID IS CLOSE TO.
[188:05] THEIRS VARIOUS TOOLS YOU HAVE AND WITH A MIX MASH THOSE TWO AND MITIGATE ANY RISKS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON AND LATER PHASES OF THE QUESTION SO. I THINK IT'S TOO PRECIOUS ONE IS TO DELIBERATELY CREATE CONSTRUCTION THAT IS MORE VULNERABLE THAN TO DEBRIS. THAT FEELS WRONG LIKE A BREAK BECAUSE NORMALLY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AND I GUESS. ONE IS WOULD READ YOU KNOW IS THAT A SMART THING TO DELIBERATELY DO IT FEELS LIKE A WEAKNESS OF THIS VARIATION. AND THEN THE OTHER PROBLEM IS ODDS THAT HE WOULD GET CLOGGED IN SOME HORRIFIC EVENT. AND THE IDEA THAT WE COULD RECREATE THE PROBLEM TURNED TO SALT SO THAT KIND OF THE THINGS I'M STRUGGLING WITH. SALAMI LIKE IF THE COTTONWOOD FALLS OVER ON ITS SIDE AND START HEADING DOWNSTREAM IS MORE THAN EIGHT FT HIGH RATE.I MEAN ITI MEAN IT'S HUGE TREE ON ITS SIDE DISH AT IT BUSILY THINK OF IT THAT THINGS COULD EASILY GO WRONG HERE.IF THE HEIGHT IS
[189:13] ONLY EIGHT FOOT TOE JUST FOR MY SHEER EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING BUT THEN WE WATCHED FLOODS HAPPEN AND STUFF. DOESN'T BEHAVE LIKE NECESSARILY IT SHOULD BE A ONE CAN EASILY IMAGINE SOMETHING NOT GOING RIGHT HERE YOU'RE TELLING US. WE REALLY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO CATCH THAT UP STREAM IN SO THAT JUST ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN OR JUST THE ODDS ARE LOWER.GIVE ME SOME MORE COMFORT HERE.I THINK BUT TO KOREA FOR TWO OTHERS AND THERE ARE THESE STAYS OUT THERE THAT WE FOUND THE KIND OF SET THE ODDS. MAYBE AREN'T AS HIGH AS WE THINK THEY ARE SEEN TALKING ON THE TWENTY PERCENT BLOCKAGE AND WHATNOT.THIS IS WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TWENTY PERCENT CHANCE OF BLOCKING IN A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT OR TO WHAT'S A TWENTY PERCENT FOR. TWENTY PERCENT AND THERE IT WOULD BE BOSS OPEN BE USABLE FOR THAT WATER.SO JUST A
[190:09] PARTIAL BLOCKAGE PERCENT BLOCKAGE. SO I THINK THAT DRIVE TO PAY THESE FEES MORE UP TO SPEED ON THE NATIONAL STUDY IS THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE AND WE'RE JUST TO. BE SEEN THOSE DAYS THAN THEY DO APPEAR TO BE ACCURATE FOR THE PLIGHT OF THE SITUATION. I'M SO ANGRY AT YOU AND THE TREES THAT ARE COMING DOWN.THERE IS THE CHANCE TO BLOCK AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW MUCH IS A HOMAGE TO BACH IS AND ISN'T AS IT. SHOULD YOU CONSIDER A TWENTY PERCENT OF THE WASHER DOES THAT REALLY HAPPENED THE WHOLE THING HAS ME BLOCKED WHAT WE'VE SEEN THE INFORMATION WE'VE SEEN CASES THAT. WE SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERING AND TO BE BLOCKED NOT FULLY BE OVERLY CONCERNED. SHOULD WE ASK MR.
[191:00] I'S IN FRONT OF MAYBE DRESS THAT IS WAS THAT YET THINKING BE THE REFERENCE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME. WILL YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE WE'LL GO WITH THIS CONVERSATION THE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO COMEBACKS FROM THIS ONE THAT WORKS ON THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CONSULTANT TEAM SOME BLOCKAGE.I GESTURED QUESTION FOR WHEN YOU LOOK AT BLOCKAGE THERE ARE GENERALLY TWO PRIMARY CONSIDERATIONS ONE IS THAT WITH THE OPENING IN THIS CASE ROUGHLY FORTY SEVEN FEET. AND THE SECOND IS THE SIZE OF THE LOG SECTION REFERRED TO AS MANY STUDIES IS THE DESIGN LOOK LIKE.OH AND THE DESIGN LOG LINK IS A FUNCTION OF MANY THINGS. THE FIRST THING IT'S A FUNCTION OF HIS WAS THE BIGGEST TREE THAT GROWS UP STREAM OF YOUR STRUCTURE. THE NEXT THING THAT HAPPENS IS WHAT IS THAT ONE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE STRAIN. AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT IT'S EXCEEDINGLY RARE FOR A LARGE TREE TO FALL
[192:00] INTO A STREAM AND BE IN TACT. IT FLOWS ANY DISTANCE IN THE STREAM ESPECIALLY WITH A NARROW STREAM THAT HAS A LOT OF DEBRIS IN IT OTHER PLACES TO GET CAUGHT.BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT LARGE TREE FALLS IN THE STREAM GETS CAUGHT IN A SNAG AND IN ORDER FOR TO GET LOOSE FROM THE SNAG IT BREAKS INTO SMALLER PIECES. AND THEREFORE THE DESIGN LOG LINK DOES NOT GENERALLY THE SIZE OF LARGE TREE UPSTREAM OR STRUCTURE IT IS THE SIZE OF THE TREE AFTER IT HAS BEEN DEGRADED. IN A STRANGE OBSESSION WITH THE BRIDGE.OH THAT'S ALL THEORETICAL STUFF.WHAT IS REALLY POWERFUL FOR US WE'RE THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE HAVE WITH A PHOTOGRAPH THAT WE HAVE WITH THE U S THIRTY SIX BRIDGE AFTER THAT WENT THIRTEEN OF AND WHICH DEMONSTRATED THAT CLEARLY.I
[193:06] GUESS YOU COULD HAVE SOME LOGS THAT WERE LARGER THAN THAT OPENING THAT COULD HAVE FLOWN THROUGH PARALLEL BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY BLOCKAGE AT THE STRUCTURE.ONE THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN THE PRINTER DESIGN.OH YOU'RE OPEN SPACE STAFF HAS TOLD US THAT THEY HAVE SEVERAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF DEBRIS PILES AND WILL BE A LOOK AT THOSE PILES OF DEBRIS.HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET A REFERENCE POINT PERSONS IN THE PHOTOGRAPH OR SOMETHING YOU CAN ACTUALLY MEASURE THE LENGTH OF THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF DEBRIS THAT ARE IN THOSE PILES.THE SUIT IS ANY DEBRIS THAT EXCEED FORTY SEVEN FOOT LIKE. SO SO THAT'S HOW EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN HAVE AN EIGHTY FOOT TALL TREE FOR EXAMPLE A FEW OF THE STRUCTURE IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THAT TREE. WAS TO BE EIGHTY FEET LONG WHEN HE GETS TO THE STRUCTURE.
[194:01] GETS BROKEN UP BY THE STREAM OF CUSTOMER WEAVER HAD A REALLY GOOD QUESTION ON FREEPORT AND AND VERY PERCEPTIVE ARE RIGHT THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF FREEPORT YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT BLOCKAGE. THE CRITICAL FREEPORT HERE IS THE DISTANCE FROM THE WATER SURFACE WATER FLOWING UNDER THE BRIDGE AND THE BOTTOM QUARTER OF THE BRIDGE AND IS. MACKENZIE SAID JOYCE WANT TO MAINTAIN SOME DISTANCE AND CERTAINLY WHEN WE GET TO SEE DOT. WANT TO MAINTAIN YOU KNOW. PROBABLY THE SAME OR MORE REWARDING TO HAVE ANOTHER NOT GOING TO GO IN A DIRECTION AND HAVE LESS REWARD THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE SHOWN ACTUALLY WOULD INCREASE THE FREEPORT. BRIDGE AND THE REASON IT WOULD DO THAT IS THE RESTRICT OR SITS UPSTREAM OF THE BRIDGE AND FORCES THE WATER TO THE SMALLER OPENING.SO THE WATER DIPPED UNDER THE BRIDGE. WITH VARIANT TO
[195:02] OPTION WITH RESTRICT OR WOULD ACTUALLY BE LOWER THAN WITH THE VERY WANT OPTIONS OF VARYING TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THE FREE BOARD. UNDER THE U S THIRTY SIX BRIDGE SEVEN ACCENTS ARE OKAY BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD HELP ME WRITE THAT BECAUSE WHAT WORKS.WE UNDERSTOOD FROM WHAT STAFF PRESENTED THE WIRES HUNDRED AND SEVEN FEET IN LENGTH THE OPENING IS WITH A COUPLE OF YEARS AND BETWEEN TEN TO FOURTEEN FEET OFF.I BELIEVE THAT THAT NUMBER IS BETWEEN THE WATER AND THE BOTTOM OF THE BRIDGE AT THAT POINT SO WE GO BACK ONE DAY THE CURRENT THE CURRENT CONDITION. SO SO WHEN WE TALKED STAFF ABOUT THE CHANGE FROM HERE TO THE NEXT CONCEPT OF RESTRUCTURE IS LOWER.IT LOOKS LIKE IT DROP SOMETHING LIKE FOUR TO SIX FEET RIGHT. SO HOW CAN THAT INCREASE THE FREE BOARD IF YOU'RE BRINGING THE BEVERAGE CLOSER TO THE LOLS ER YEAH SO HOT. SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE ALMOST IN THE US.UM SO WHAT HAPPENS
[196:10] IS THE FREE BOARD IS MEASURED GO BACK ONCE LED HER. FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE BEAM ON THE BRIDGE TO THE WATER SURFACE UNDER THE BRIDGE ARE OKAY TO GO TO THE NEXT LIFE. SO THE RESTRICT OR IS GOING TO FORCE THE WATER SURFACE UNDER THE BRIDGE LOWER ITS GOING TO DO THAT DURING A FLOOD A MAN BECAUSE IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING TO THE CREEK RIGHT NOW.YES DURING A FLOOD OF THEM.WATER IS GOING TO BE ABOVE THE WATER DEPT UPSTREAM IS GOING TO BE ABOVE THE TOP OF THE RESTRICTED. AND RESTRICT OR WILL FORCE THE BRIDGE TO ACT MORE LIKE A BOX COVERT FROM THE UPSTREAM PERSPECTIVE THAN A BRIDGE TO A WIDER STANCE OVER STRICTER SO. TO BE SEEN POURING FROM OUR VINTAGE VANTAGE POINT HOW FAR IN DAYS AGO SO THIS IS
[197:00] THIS IS A PHOTO SIMULATION THAT WE PREPARED. MARRIED TO THE CONCEPT OF A FLORIST OR THE WHIP OF THE FOREST SECTOR IN OUR STUDY WAS FIFTY TWO FEET. I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE LOOKING AT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE HOW BIG IT OUT THERE MAYBE TWO FEET.SEE THATS IT TO THE RESTRICTIONS ONLY TWO FEET AND THEN IT GOES THE FULL HEIGHT OF THE BRIDGE BEHIND THAT. TO THE FLOOR SHAKERS ONLY TWO FEET BACK. INTO THE GROUND BUT AS SOON AS YOU GET TO FEED UNDERNEATH IT STOPS AND YOU GET THE FOUR WITH THE RIGHT LIGHT. BEFORE I SEE IT WHEN SHE HAD TO FEED IN THE OF THE FLIGHT OF THE PROJECT AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT NONE OF US UNDERSTOOD. IS THAT WE THOUGHT THAT KEPT GOING THOUGH SO OUR CONCERN NOW IS NOT SIMPLY THE FLOW.IT'S THE RESTRICTION OF THE FLOW WITH THE SAME KIND OF DEBRIS BLOCKAGE SO RETURNING TO. THOSE VERY COMFORTING
[198:00] PICTURES AFTER THE TWENTY THIRTEEN FLOOD WHERE THE SKIES BLUER IN THOSE PICTURES. THAT WAS WHAT KIND OF EVENT IT WAS A FIFTY TO ONE HUNDRED YEAR EVENT SO THAT WHEN THIRTEEN EVENT IN THAT DRAINAGE. BAUM WROTE WHAT THE WATER ENGINEERS ESTIMATED TO BE BETWEEN SEVENTY FIVE AND ONE HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.OK THINK AND SO WE USE ARE AS A PHOTOGRAPH WAS PRESUMABLY AFTER THE RAINS HAD STOPPED RAY WAS A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY OR MONDAY. I DON'T KNOW WHEN BUT THE CREEK IS CLEARLY FLYING STILL PRETTY HIGH SO IT WAS FRIDAY AND SATURDAY THE DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY LIKE SUNDAY OR MONDAY.MOM TO REALLY RAIN THURSDAY TO SUNDAY. ANYWAY I'M TO KEEP THIS GOING.UM IT'S IT WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHEN THAT WAS TAKEN JUST BEFORE HE WAS.
[199:07] IF YOU HAVE ANSWERED THAT WE CAN GET A GREAT JOHN D'AMICO FROM OPEN SPACE SAYS THAT IT WAS TAKEN ON FRIDAY. AND FRIDAY IN JUST TO TO GO WITH THE SAME QUESTIONING AM I IF IT'S WAS A WHITE GRAY WATER ENGINEERS SAID IT WAS A FIFTY TWO A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.DOES THAT MEAN ON THIS PARTICULAR CREEK OR DOES THAT MEAN ACROSS THE AISLE ON THIS PARTICULAR CREEK WE TASK THEM WITH LOOKING AT ALL FIFTEEN DRAINAGE WAYS YOU CAN VARY GREATLY.JUST AS AN ASIDE BOULDER CREEK WAS ABOUT TWENTY FIVE YEARS EVENT JUST THE WATERSHED AND WHERE THE STORMS WENT FOUR MILE CANYON CREEK WAS AND TWO MILE CANYON CREEK. CLOSE TO THE HUNDRED YEAR SO IT VARIES SO THIS THIS WATERSHED WAS SPECIFIC TO THIS ONE. AND A
[200:01] FEW HOURS IT SAYING IF I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS TWENTY THIRTEEN EVENT WOULD BE COMMENSURATE IN TERMS OF PUTTING IN THAT KIND OF CONTRACT OR. TO A ONE HUNDRED YEAR FIVE HUNDRED YEAR AND ABOVE.IN OTHER WORDS YOU WOULD GUARANTEE THAT TWENTY PERCENT BLOCKAGE WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD OCCUR SO YOU KNOW IT.UNFORTUNATELY I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THINK MOTHER NATURE IS ALWAYS ON TO SAY THAT. THIS IS WHAT WE DO THOUGH WE WE DEAL WITH UNCERTAINTY ALL THE TIME. WE YOU KNOW WE'VE HEARD DISCUSSION OF HOW MUCH IS GOING TO REIN IN FUTURE HOW TO COME UP THE HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT OF THESE THINGS ARE ALL NOT. IN MOTHER NATURE'S GOING TO LISTEN TO IT SHE'S GOING TO GIVE US WHATEVER SHE WANTS TO GIVE US RIGHT.UM WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT IMMEDIATELY DOWNSTREAM OF THE STRUCTURE WE KNOW THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS CAUSING THE TWENTY THIRTEEN FLOOD. AND AT THE NECK STRUCTURE DOWNSTREAM OF THIS ACTUALLY HAD TO BE REMOVED. BECAUSE IT HAD SO
[201:02] MUCH DEBRIS ACCUMULATED ON IT. SO A LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS DID PASS UNDER THIS STRUCTURE THE DAY BEFORE THIS PHOTOGRAPH WAS TAKEN AND WAS CAUGHT ON THE NEXT BRIDGE DOWNSTREAM. WE KNOW THE LOT OF DEBRIS WENT THROUGH THIS STRUCTURE. THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN A CONSTRICTED A MAN YET THE TO BRING IT FROM THE BRICKS TO RESTRICT OR YES SO THE STUDY SHOW. AGAIN GO BACK TO THIS THAT THE KEY PARAMETERS ARE THE LINK TO THIS LOG AND THE WIDTH OF THE OPEN. SO THE WIDTH OF THE OPENING AS MEASURED FOR THIS BRIDGE IS NOT THE WITH TO GO BACK OR IT'S NOT THE BRIDGE FROM THE EAST APARTMENT TO THE WEST APARTMENT.IT IS THE WIDTH BETWEEN THE PIERS WHICH IS FORTY SEVEN FEET HIGH.
[202:01] IT'S A FEAT THAT GETS ME. BECAUSE I MULLED OVER IT IS ALL THE STUDIES SHOW THAT THE CRITICAL PARAMETER IS THE WITH THE OPENING AS COMPARED TO THE LENGTH OF THE LAW. IS GOING OK SO FREEPORT FREEPORT IS MENTIONED BECAUSE THE STUDIES ARE CONCERNED WITH WASHING UP THE BRIDGE. AND THEREFORE YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN FREE BOARD FROM THE WATER SURFACE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BRIDGE SO THAT YOU DON'T START ACCUMULATING DEBRIS. IN THAT AREA THAT IS ONLY GOING TO WASH OUT THE BRIDGE NOW. FREEPORT IS IMPORTANT FOR A BRIDGE. BUT WHAT THIS RESTRICT OR WOULD DO TO CONVERT ESSENTIALLY AS FAR AS THE CREEK IS CONCERNED EVEN THINK THIS IS A BOX CALL FOR. FREE BOARD IS NOT IMPORTANT FOR A BOX COLOR BECAUSE THE BOX CULVERT CAN HANDLE DEBRIS ACROSS THE TOP IS NOT GOING TO WASH IT OUT. TO HIM TO UNDERSTAND WE SAID BEFORE SO ONCE AGAIN ONCE THE WATER GOT PAST THE FLOW OR STRICTER THOSE TWO THAT TWO FEET THICK CLOTHES GREATER. THAN THAT
[203:02] WOULD BE ADDITIONAL FREE BOARD BETWEEN THE WATER LEVEL IN THE BOTTOM OF THE REJECTION WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE THE FREE BOARD AND THERE WOULD BE UNDER CURRENT CONDITIONS YES. AND BECAUSE THE WATER WOULD ACTUALLY THERE'LL BE A CRITICAL TIME IN HERE WHERE EVEN THOUGH THE SIZE ON SHOW TO KNOW THAT STUDIES BEEN DONE TO DO THIS. BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE A CRITICAL POINT IN HERE WHERE THE FLOOD IS RIGHT AT THE TOP TO RESTRICT OR. ARE YOU PROBABLY HAVE AN INCREASED LIKELIHOOD OF TRAPPING DEBRIS BUT GIVEN THAT WATER GOT ABOVE THAT LEVEL THE LIKELIHOOD THAT YOU TRAP DEBRIS WOULD BE LESS. WELL IT IS EXACTLY THE REASON TO APPEAR FLOATING IN THE WATER FLOWING UNDERNEATH AND SAYS WERE MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT POTABLE THE BREEZE. FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE FLOOD TO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WITH THE FLOOD IN THE LARGER FLOODS THIS HAT IT RAMPS UP QUICKER SO WHAT HAPPENS DURING THE FLOOD.IT GOES FROM WHERE IT IS NOW. TO
[204:02] A RAGING FLOOD WHERE IT WOULD BE TO THE TOP THE RESTRICTION AT ALL MOST OF THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE IN ABOUT AN HOUR. AND THE LARGER THE FLOOD OF AND SHORT OF THAT TIME PERIOD AND THEN OK AND THEN IT ENDS UP OVER TOPPING.NO IT DOESN'T OVER THE PHOTOS WOULD HAPPEN SO THE BREEZE UP TOP AND ENDS UP ON TOP OF THE ROAD.NO IT WOULD BE IF YOU LOOK JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE RESTRICT YOU CAN SEE THE FLOOD WALL THERE. OK SO THE FLOODWATERS ARE A FOOT BELOW THE TOP OF THE FOOTBALL SO ABOVE THE TOP OF THE RESTRICT ARE BASICALLY IN THE PARENT WALL.THE JERSEY BARRIER OF THE BRIDGE TO RESTRICT OR SIZE THE SAME THREE THAT ONE HUNDRED YEAR OR THE FIVE HUNDRED YEARS THAT I MAYBE MENTIONED ALREADY HOW.
[205:04] HOPE ALL IS THAT HIS RESTRUCTURE COME AS IT CROSSES THE CREEK AS ITS. POINT IS OUT THIS WAS THE CONCEPT WILL DESIGN AND BUT IN THE CONCEPT AS I WAS EIGHT FEET TALL. WHO WHO'S A TREE FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE ROADWAY TO THE BOTTOM OF THE RESTAURATEUR. ALL KNOW FROM FROM THE CREEK TO THE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME JUST. OKAY SO RIGHT NOW IT'S BETWEEN TEN AND FOURTEEN FEET NICE AND CREATE SOCIAL ASSUME THAT THE RESTRUCTURE ITS SUMMER BETWEEN TWO AND SIX FEET TALL.NO AS IT HANGS OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE BRIDGE. THAT'S WHEN ASKING HOW TALL IS A WHOLE HOTEL IS RESTRICTED TO HANG OFF OF THE BRIDGE TO PAY OFF THE BOTTOMS THAT WOULD BE. BETWEEN TWO AND SIX FEET BELOW THE BOTTOM CHORD THE BRIDGE. BETWEEN TWO AND SIX CUZ WE'RE GOING TO BE A DEFINITE AMOUNT WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE.
[206:05] DOES NOT KNOW IT IS BECAUSE THE BRIDGE HEIGHT VARIES DEPENDS WHERE YOU ARE IF YOU'RE AT THE CREEK. THE UM THE BOTTOM CORNERS ABOUT FOURTEEN FEET ABOVE THE CREEK SO THE RESTRICTED BE ABOUT SIX FEET BELOW THE BOTTOM CORNER RIGHT ABOVE THE CREEK. SO FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE ROADWAY TO THE BOTTOM OF THE RESEARCHERS TO BE SIX FEET AT THE PART THAT GOES ACROSS THE BOX SIX FEET HIGH. YES SIX FEET HIGH AND SO DOES THAT THEN AFTER IT CLEARS THAT THE TWO FOOT. DEPTH OF THE RESTRUCTURE ARE WE CREATING EFFECTIVELY A SIX FOOT FREE BOARD ROUGHLY GUESS WHAT THE PERMISSIBLE FREE BOARD FOR THIS BRIDGE. IS FOUR FEET BUT DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE I YOU KNOW HER. YET I CANNOT AS ARE TALKING ABOUT DETAILED NUMBERS INTO WANNA AND WATERY MENTION THIS I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS VERY VERY PRELIMINARY SO.
[207:01] IF IF YOUR DECISION IS HANGING ON A FOOT OR TWO. WE DON'T KNOW THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW SO I WAS JUST TO MAKE THAT EXACT POINT WHICH IS THAT IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS VARIANT. WOULD PROCEED TO PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND THE PARAMETERS WOULD THEN CHANGE BASED ON THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL MITIGATION IF NECESSARY BASED ON THAT DESIGN. RIGHTS THAT YOU WOULD YOU FULLY ENGINEER THIS ABSOLUTE COUPLE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT BUT DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING OF ONE IS THAT IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.NO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHAT HAPPENS TO BE EIGHTY FOOT LONG TREE. RIGHT AND COULD BLOCK THIS VARIANT WHAT I WILL SAY TO YOU IS AN EIGHTY FOOT LONG TREE WOULD ALSO BLOCK THE EXISTING BRIDGE. SO BLOCKAGE AND SIGNIFICANT BLOCKAGE IS NOT
[208:00] UNIQUE VARIANT TO RESTRICT OR. IT COULD ALSO HAPPEN IF YOU GOT A CATASTROPHIC EVENT WE HAVE A VERY LARGE TREE THAT IS LARGER THAN WE ANTICIPATE. IT TO GET CAUGHT ON THE BRIDGE PIERS AND CAUSE MORE BLOCKAGE THAT WE ANTICIPATE JUST AS EASILY AS YOU GET CAUGHT IN THE ROOSTER. JUST AS EASY TO DO IS A DIFFERENCE AND MAYBE THERE'S NOT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN RISK BETWEEN THAT OPENING IN OUR CURRENT OPENING IN TERMS OF BLOCKAGE. ALL TRYING TO DO IS TRADE OFF WEAKNESSES IN ONE BRAND BUT NO THIS ISN'T WHAT I'M SAYING THE FACT IS THAT BRIDGE PIERS ARE VERY VERY EFFECTIVE AT CATCHING DEBRIS. AND AND THEREFORE IF WE SHOULD GET A LARGE TREE. COULD BE IS EASILY CAUGHT A TREE THAT'S LARGER THAN WE AND THAT WE REASONABLY ANTICIPATE FROM OUR STUDIES WE GET THAT LARGE TREE. IT IS AS REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT IT WOULD BE CAUGHT ON THE EXISTING BRIDGE PIERS AS IT WOULD BE TRAPPED
[209:00] IN THE RESTRICT OR FOR VERY. SIAN SO I GET THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE IF IT DETERMINES THE LENGTH OF THE LOG AND THE OPENING. BUT BLOCKED HERE THE SAME BLOCK IN THE MIDDLE RIGHT DURING A FLOOD OF THAT AND YOU'VE STILL GOT ALTERNATE PATHWAYS FOR THE WATER.FOR INSTANCE TO GO AROUND.WHERE IS IF YOU BLOCK IN THE RESTRICTED VERSION YOU CAN ADD DON YOU'VE GOT MAYBE THE MAN OR A PASS TO THE LAST.BUT YOU'VE BLOCKED THE MAIN PASSAGE FOR WATER THROUGH THE APERTURE.I MEAN IT'S YOUR FIRST TRIP TO THE APERTURE ON PURPOSE. YOU MAY HAVE FREE BOARD ONCE YOU GET UNDERNEATH IDEA IF YOU'VE GOT A BIG BLOCKAGE HERE TO BE MATERIALLY DIFFERENT. IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE YOU COULD BLOCK THE CENTER SECTION AND STILL HAVE. WATER PATHS AROUND THAT STRICT NOT RECOGNIZE THOUGH THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE WATER THAT FLOWS INTO THE BRIDGE WAS BETWEEN THOSE PEERS PROBABLY EIGHTY PERCENT OF THE LAW.SO EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME WATER GOING AROUND THE SIDES.
[210:05] IT'S YOURS TO GET SIGNIFICANT BLOCKAGE OF THE SPAN BETWEEN THE PIERS IS BLOCKED. SO YOU CAN GET A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN FLOW THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD. QUESTION ALL THE CHARACTERS EVOLVE AND I'M REALLY CURIOUS HOW YOU ASSESS RISK ON THEIR SO IN OTHER WORDS THERE WERE ANY KIND OF ENGINEERING OF THIS TIE.THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO EXPRESS RISK IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN QUANTIFY AND ENTRIES ARE OFF. OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER DURING UM. I MEAN I LOOK THROUGH THOSE THOSE STUDIES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FROM NINETY SEVEN AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES THAT WERE IN OUR PACKET. AND I STILL DIDN'T SEE A GOOD WAY OF QUALIFYING RISK I SAW RELATIONS BETWEEN LOG WEIGHING SOON OPEN A NEW SON.
[211:00] YEAH TEJADA BUT HE DIDN'T SAY YOU KNOW IN THESE TYPES OF OPENINGS ALL TO LOG LINKS THAT YOU'RE EITHER INCLUSION WAS EX OR YOUR CHANCE OF INCLUSION. HUNDRED YEAR THAT WAS WHY I. MEAN HOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TELL US WHEN YOU DO THIS ENGINEER AND IF YOU CHOOSE THIS AND YOU GO AND YOU DESIGN YOUR BOX CULVERT HEAR. HOW YOU CAN AND TELL US WHAT THE RISK IS FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD THAT WE GET BLOCKAGE AND THAT IT CAN BACKUP ALONG AND GO INTO WEST VALLEY.HOW WILL YOU HELP US WITH HIS AS AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION AND WHAT WE TYPICALLY WILL DO HIS WILL BE SENSITIVITY STUDIES. SO BIG BECAUSE YOU CAN'T QUANTIFY THE RISK AND SAY THAT THERE'S A ONE THOUSAND CHANCE THAT THIS EIGHTY FOOT LONG TREE IS GOING TO COME AND BLOCK THIS THING THIRTY PERCENT.WE WILL DO SENSITIVITY STUDIES AND NOT ONLY IS THERE THE QUESTION OF COULD THIS LARGE TREE. BLOCKED HIS OPENING BUT THE OTHER THING YOU GOTTA CONSIDER IS WHEN DURING THE EVENT THAT
[212:00] HAPPENED IT HAPPENED AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE EVENT.IT'S MUCH MORE CRITICAL THAN IT HAPPENED NEAR THE END OF THE OF RIGHT SO WHAT OUR SENSITIVITY STUDIES WILL DO IS WE WOLD SAY LESS IS. FOR STARTING POINT A CEMENT BOX TWENTY PERCENT AND IT BLOCKS THE PEAK OF THE STORE. HOW MUCH REWARD WILL YOU NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. WE FOUND OUT THAT THE FREE BOARD WE'D ALREADY NOT NOW I'M BACK BUT THE OTHER THREE BOARD NOW I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FREE BOARD. THE DAMP I THINK YOU. OF HOW MUCH FOOD HOW MUCH REWARD YOU HAVE TO USE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT IF WE FIND OUT THAT THE ONE FOOT ABOVE THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR ACCOMMODATES THAT. ARE PROBABLY HAPPY BUT WE PROBABLY DOES COME BACK TO YOU OR YOUR ROUTE AND HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SHOWN THAT VARIOUS. POINTS AND LET YOU
[213:00] DECIDE HOW MUCH SAFETY YOU KNOW BECAUSE GOING TO COST FACTOR TO THAT IT'S LIKE WOW IF YOU CAN GET. IF YOU CAN GIVE US FREE MORE THAT CAN PROTECT US AGAINST BLOCK IS A VERY UNEXPECTED. IN THE PROJECT COST WILL TAKE THAT IT IS GOING TO DOUBLE THE PRICE THE COST WATER PARK A HALF LOOP OR RISK. SO BET I WOULD DO IT IN AS AN EXAMPLE WE ARE ANSWERABLE BY CALCULATION. ON THE ROOSTER AND WE SAID THAT IF THE RESTRICTED OR BLOCKED THIRTY PERCENT SO IF THE FLOW UNDER THE STRICTER IS REDUCED BY THIRTY PERCENT.ONE HOUR BEFORE THE STORM PEE AND IT STAYED THIRTY PERCENT BLOCKED DURING THE REMAINDER OF THE DURATION OF THE STORE. OKAY AND YOU CHOSE TO BUILD THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR PROJECT AND THIS WAS THE ONE HUNDRED YEAR STORM I FORGOT TO SAY IS TELLING JOKES.SO A HUNDRED YEAR STORM BLOCKS THIRTY PERCENT.
[214:08] ONE HOUR BEFORE THE PEAK AND YOU'VE BUILT THE FIVE MAJOR PROJECT THE AS WE HAVE IT CONFIGURED IT WOULD NOT STOP THE FLOW. SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR FIVE YEAR PROJECT TO HANDLE A GOOD BIT OF BLOCKING MORE THAN WE PROBABLY EXPECT THAT WE WOULD SEE WITH THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD.EXACTLYOK A LOT OF HANDS GO UP TO ANYTHING THAT HELPS US GET FURTHER DISCUSSION THEN WE'RE ONTO OUR NEXT TOPIC.SOME JUST TO BE CLEAR THE WHOLE REASON THAT WE NEED THIS ARE STRICTER IN THE FIRST PLACE IS TO CONTROL THE FLOW DOWNSTREAM IN ORDER TO BACK IT UP.UPSTREAM SO THAT IT BACKS UP INTO AS KEN MCKENZIE
[215:00] WAS SAYING. THE PUBLICLY OWNED AREA AS OPPOSED TO GOING DOWNSTREAM AND FLOODING OUT THE PRIVATELY OWNED AREA THIS IS A CORRECT IS THAT WAY WE DOING THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IN THE MAIN CHANNEL ITSELF OR TREAT.YES OK JUST WANTED TO CREATE CLEAR AND THAT CAN CARRY. JUST A VARIANT TO YES VERY ONE DOES A DIFFERENT WAY WITH WHICH SHE GET TO THE TRADE BETWEEN THESE TWO WHO ALSO IS A QUESTION ABOUT DEBRIS. WE COULD FOR MAYBE THIS KID IS GOING TO SOLVE THE VERY. TOP THREE IS TO RESTRICT OR THAT WE'RE SHOWING IS ONE CONCEPT HOW WE COULD REDUCE THE FLOW UNDER THE BRIDGE THERE ARE OTHER. THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IF YOU BRING UP TO THE RESTRICTIVE FOR EXAMPLE WE COULD PUT A BAFFLE UPSTREAM OF THE RESTRICTED AND THEN HAVE A LARGER OPENING.WHATEVER DO THEY SLOW DOWN THE WATER.AND WHAT WE'RE
[216:00] TRYING TO USE BACK THE WATER UP THERE THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT WE CAN CONSTRUCT THE FLOW AT THE BRIDGE.THIS IS JUST ONE THAT WE SHOWED REALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONVEYING THE IDEA OF WHAT IS THE RESTRICTED. SO THIS ISN'T THE ONLY TYPE OF RESTRICTIVE THAT WE COULD USE IN SOME RESEARCHERS HAVE MORE DEBRIS CATCHING. LIKELIHOOD AND SOME HAVE LESS SO AND AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN BET PRELIMINARY AND FINALS. WEEK ALL THE GOOD ENOUGH FOR NOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH A BIG THANK YOU TO RUN INTO HIM AND KEN FOR COMING TO SPEND YOUR TUESDAY NIGHT WITH US IN CLARIFYING THESE ISSUES. THANKS GOODNESS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THIS IS THE MOST FUN YOU COULD BE HAVING TONIGHT. OK SO THE OTHER TWO ISSUES WE HAD WERE PERMITTING MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT PERMANENT LAW JASON DIRECT IMPACTS VERSUS THE ENHANCEMENT POTENTIAL OR WHATEVER YOU DO D. YEAH I'M
[217:07] I'M SORRY I'VE LOST A FLY FROM THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION THERE'S A GREAT SLIDE THAT HAS THE WILDLIFE. HABITAT POTENTIAL TRADING ON THE SOUTH AND IT'S RUN NOW OR AUGUST SEVEN EIGHTY GUESTS ARE CORRECT AND I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO TALK THROUGH THAT SLIDE IN LIGHT OF THE UPSTREAM VARIATIONS. YES EXACTLY THAT'S RIGHT SO THE UPSTREAM VARIANTS SEEM TO SHOW A COUPLE OPTIONS ONES IS REALLY LONG IN MY PERMANENT SITE GET TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED FOOT LONG. WALL OF SOME KIND THAT CAN DIVERT THE FLOW AND THE OTHER ONE IS THIS INFLOW RUNDOWN WHICH LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN A LOT LESS SENSITIVE HABITAT.I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW ONE OF THOSE WOULD WORK SO. THAT YOUR PROJECT TEAM CAME UP WITH THE INFLOW RUNDOWN CONCEPT SO WHAT DOES THAT AND HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR CONSERVATION. THOSE WHO
[218:06] CAN YOU FIRST DESCRIBE THE COLOR TO THE DESCRIBED THEM AS FORESTRY INSLEE SAID. YES AND THIS WAS DONE DURING THE HE. AND THAT DISCUSSIONS ARE ON THE SEA SELF GUIDING PRINCIPLES I STAND BY PRIOR HABITATS AND THIS IS REALLY A COMPILATION OF A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT. STUDIES OF RISA SENSITIVE RESOURCES IN THE AREA SAID THE DARKER THE AREA. THE MORE SENSITIVE RESOURCES THAT ARE THERE AND IF YOU. GIVE ME A MOMENT I CAN ON EARTH THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE BUT IT INCLUDES WETLANDS THAT INCLUDES MOUSE HABITAT. AND INCLUDES ALL OF THE NEWS SENSITIVE HABITATS AND SAID THAT DARKER THE AREA THE MORE SENSITIVE TO HABITAT VERY NEARBY.AND SO I HAVE AN
[219:04] AERIAL MAP HERE OF THEM THAT DARK AND THERE. WAS A GREEN CIRCLE AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HE IS CURRENTLY THAT ISN'T IN ANY KIND OF SENSITIVE HABITAT CONDITION. SO WHY IS IT SO DARK THERE WHEN IT'S BASICALLY MINED AREA.MY UNDERSTANDING I MIGHT ASK MARY POWELL TO STEP UP BUT THE HE.I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE MOST SOUTHERN END OF THAT PART THAT JUTS OUT AND WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL MINED OUT AREA.I THINK THAT'S MORE ON KIND OF INNOCENT ROLE IN THAT THOSE THOSE ARE SENSITIVE HABITATS IN THAT OR. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN REMINDED TO YOUR OH YA SORRY MARY POWELL CORPUS ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING DEALING WITH THE PERMITTING IN SOME OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES ISSUES.UM I DON'T
[220:02] KNOW THE EXACT HISTORY OF THAT AREA TO THE SOUTH. IS CURRENTLY KEPT A WETLANDS SO THEY ARE REGULATED UNDER THE CLEAN WATER ACT AND THAT'S WHY THEY GET THAT DARK COLOR SO THAT THERE ARE WEAPONS THERE.SHE DOES IT SAY YEAH SURE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT.WELL YEAH THOSE ARE THOSE WHO ARE SENIORS THE BIO MASS OF THE CATSKILLS THAT ACTUALLY VEGETATION YOU KNOW HOW THEY START TO DIE IN THE GET OFF AT YIN THAT SWITCH OR SEE THERE.SO IN THE PHOTO SIGNATURE ISN'T. WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE NOT SAYING THEY'RE THE HIGHEST QUALITY WELL INTO THE WORLD. CAPPED HILLS FOR SOME OF THE NICE WET MEADOWS THAT ARE FARTHER TO THE NORTH AT HOME BUT THOSE ARE CURRENTLY WELL IT'S IN THERE INTO THERE. AND THAT IS AN AREA WITHIN WHICH AT LEAST CURRENTLY CONCEIVED. THOUGHTS WERE THAT PARTIALLY WERE THE SPILL DOWN PERIOD WITH TOM WOULD OCCUR FOR THAT UPSTREAM. VERSION SHOULD JUST
[221:00] LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT VERSES OF THIS IT SEEMS LIKE THE INFLOW RUNDOWN. IS NOT INSIDE THE RECTANGLE IT ALL LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN THE LIGHT AREA TO THE LOWER RIGHT OF THE GREEN CIRCLE THAT'S JUST FROM WHAT SHOWN IN THE CONCEPT MODIFIED BY THE PROJECT TEAM.I'M SORRY THAT I CAN SHOW THIS IS JUST IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT SO IF THIS IS. HELPFUL THAT SHE SHOWS THEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY BUT YOU CAN SEE THE RUNDOWN AND THE INLET BERM ON THE BRIGHT SIDE THE RIGHT SIDE FREIGHT BE OUT THERE SOME OF THE WIN.WELL THE FOOTPRINT THAT IS THAT IT LOOKS THOUGH WHAT YOU PROVIDED WAS DIFFERENT COMING ON SO THIS IS THE CARTOONS WE CALL A CARTOON ON THE ACTUAL PURPOSE FOR THE RUNDOWN. THERE'S AN ELEVATION DIFFERENCE FROM THE CREEK DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAVEL PIT AND WE GET A FARMER THAT SLOPE SO THAT WHEN WATER FLOWS OVER A DOZEN ROAD. THAT'S WHAT A RUNDOWN
[222:04] IS IT WOULD BE A RIP RAPPED AREA WHICH MY STALL LIKE VERY MUCH. AND IN ACTUALITY IT WOULD BE THE GOAL FOR YOURSELF AND WHAT IS SHOWN IN THIS THAT IT WOULD LITERALLY BE RIP RAP FOR THAT WHOLE GRADE TRIANGLE. YES I KNOW WHERE IT SAYS IN FULL RUNDOWN ON THE RIGHT SIDE THERE FOR EACH TRIANGLE THAT I'M SORRY FOR THE YES. YES YES AND THAT NEGERI RECTANGLE WOULD BE. RIP RAP POSSIBLY DROUGHT AND RIP RAP IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT WILL PROBABLY THEN BURY IT AND THEN EVERY TIME WATER FLOWED OVER IT. YOU HAVE AN OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE AND SHE'D HAVE TO MOVE THE SET AND BACK WITH HER BACK ON TOP OF THE RIP AT NEARBY AN ERROR. SINCE I
[223:05] BELIEVE DAN WITH. US AND PEWS HERE IS THERE ANY WAY TO HAVE HIM SPEAK TO THE VALUES OF THE SEA YOU HAVE A CAT VERSUS THE STATE NATURAL AREA SINCE HE'S THE COLLEGE'S. KEPT ON THE CARD AND WHICH EVER OKAY. THE DONS IN THE COVE. THE ISSUE OF THE WEIGHT WHICH RAPPER WE LOOK AT THE CU VERSUS WHAT. STATE WE HAVE ONE THAT SHOWS A STATE NATIONAL OR WE DID WE DO HOPE IT'S FAIR TO MAKE OPEN FACED ON PARKS. I CAN BACK UP ON SECOND TO CLARIFY. THE QUESTION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THAT SOUTHERN PART THAT'S REALLY DARK ON THE BIKE HABITATS DIAGRAM SO THAT SITE WAS MINE WHO IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL GRAVEL MINING IN. EARLY NINETEEN
[224:03] NINETIES AND THE GRAVEL COMPANY ACTUALLY RESTORE THOSE YOU CAN SEE THE VERTICAL LINES THE LIGHTER COLORED VERTICAL LINES THOSE ARE ACTUALLY TAKES ON A POMPOUS. WASH FINES THROUGH A PIPE SYSTEM AND SETTLED OUT THE FINES IN THOSE THOSE CELLS THOSE ESPECIALLY THOSE TWO DARK RED ONES ON THE FAR ARE BROWN ON THE FAR LEFT.SO THOSE WERE ALLOWED TO FILL UP A FINE SEDIMENT AND THEY ACTUALLY READ AGITATED THOUGH SO THOSE WERE PART OF AN EFFORT TO ACTUALLY RECLAIMED GRAVEL MINING AREA. THAT'S LARGELY WHY THOSE WHO ARE DARKER WHEN BIO HAVE ATTESTED TO HIS STUDIES TO EVALUATE THE CONSERVATION VALUE OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY.THOSE CAME OUT DARK BECAUSE AS MARY SAID THEY HAD OVER LINE RESOURCES SO THERE IS PROBLEMS HABITAT THERE IS FOR. YOU LADIES TRESSES ORCHIDS HABITAT THERE ARE WETLANDS ON HIS NATIVE VEGETATION THERE ALL THOSE THINGS THAT KIND OF STACKED UP AND DARK AND THOSE AREAS ON THE DIAGRAM SO. YOU CAN
[225:00] USE TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION WHILE YET.CAN YOU OKAYCAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT LAND VERSUS THE STUDY NATURAL HABITAT AND SURE. SO THE STATE NATURAL AREA. ON OPEN SPACE IS ALL BASICALLY ON AN MIND NATIVE FLOOD PLAINS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DISTURBED. SIGNIFICANTLY THERE'S BEEN HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN CRAZY AND THERE'S THE IRRIGATION WATER APPLIED TO IT BUT THE SOILS IN. THE STRUCTURE OF THAT FLOOD PLAIN IS LARGELY INTACT AND THEREFORE SUPPORTS ALL OF THOSE. RESOURCES THAT WE'VE DESCRIBED IN PREVIOUS MEMOS ON THE LATEST RESTORE HABITAT ON COUPLES NO JUMPING MOUSE HABITAT ALL THIS IS WHAT WINS ON GRASS PRAIRIE. INSIDE ON
[226:08] THE CU PROPERTY THAT WAS ALL MINED IN THE NINETIES AND SO UM WITH WITH VERY LITTLE ON. RECLAMATION DONE ON THAT PARCEL SO IT WAS BASICALLY MINE DOUBT RE GRADED AND SEEDED WITH BRECHT RECLAMATION NEXT WHICH IS LARGELY LARGELY NON NATIVE GRASSES. AND JUST TO STABILIZE THE SOIL AND MEET THE MORE LESS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE MINING AND RECLAMATION BOARD AND THERE AND THEY'RE PERMANENT.SO THERE WERE A LOT OF EFFORTS TO ENHANCE THE ECOLOGICAL FUNCTIONING OR AND OR RESOURCE VALUES THE PROPERTY.SO FOR GOING TO IMPACT SOMETHING WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO IMPACT BAT RATHER THAN THE STATE NATURAL LANDS FROM AN ECOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE YES VERY MUCH.IF YOU WANT IN ON THIS QUESTION.
[227:06] OK SO I WAS GOING TO ASK ON PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT SHOWED THOSE DARKER RED AND THE LESSER RED MOVING. IN TOWARDS THE RIGHT UM WHAT WHAT ARE THE GRASSES YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY THE YEARS HAS IT GROWN SO HER ROOM THERE. THEY'RE INVASIVE STUTTER THERE NOW AND THERE'S NOT MUCH HABITAT INSIDE THE LEVEE THE BOMB INSIDE THIS. TO ACTUALLY TO THE INSIDE A GREEN CIRCLE IN THE ONE THAT'S THE CLOSEST LIKE IN THAT AREA KNOW. AS MARY MENTIONED THOSE ARE ACTUALLY WELL AND SO AND IT'S MOSTLY CAN'T TELL WHAT ONCE ESPECIALLY THE DARK AREAS.I GUESS MOVING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE MAIN LEVEE THEN SOME MORE YELLOW AREAS THE ER AND AGAIN THE BROWNER AREAS.I WAS JUST NICE CAN SPEAK FOR THE SPECIFICS PLANT SPECIES
[228:00] IN THERE THEY'RE PROBABLY A COMBINATION OF NATIVE AND NON NATIVE SPECIES.I WILL SAY THAT AS YOU MOVE AROUND.UMM TO THE LOWER RIGHT OF THAT CIRCLE WHERE THEY RUN THE RUNDOWN IS RIGHT IN THAT AREA THERE THAT THAT AREA WHERE THE CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW HAS NOT BEEN MINED.SO THAT'S ALL PRETTY HIGH QUALITY HABITAT.IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW UP ON THIS AND I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS. LESS FINISHED THAN ACTUALLY SHOOT SOMEONE THAT THIS SOAP FOR FALLING UPON MERE BUYS QUESTION ABOUT SORT OF THE TRADE OFF BETWEEN AFFECTING THIS AREA VERSUS STATE THE OPEN SPACE AND WILDLIFE.MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOUGH WITH THE UPSTREAM CON CON SUPPORT TALKING ABOUT PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON THIS AREA VERSUS. ONCE IN A ONE HUNDRED YEAR OR A POINT TO IN ONE HUNDRED YEAR CHANCE OF WATER FLOWING INTO
[229:00] THE STADIUM AREA HAS A CRACKED SAKE.SO IN TERMS OF THE STREET OFF OF WHICH LAND IS MORE VALUABLE.ONE CONCEPT PROPOSES PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON THE SENSITIVE HABITAT AND THE OTHER JUST ALLOWS FOR WATER TO FLOW INTO HABIT AT ONE TIME IN A HUNDRED YEARS. RIGHT THAT'S CORRECT TRAIN.YES WE CAN USE SOAP AS WE LOOK AT THE TRADE OFFS AND ONE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING IS ONE OF THEM.THERE'S DIRECT IMPACTS VERSUS WHAT HAPPENS TO GET IT.I MEAN DOES THAT SUM UP THE TRADE OFFICERS ARE MORE TO SAY ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WRESTLING WITH THIS. TRADE OFF BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS ON THREE DIFFERENT FACTORS MADE ONE OF MOM IS. WHAT IT DOES IN TERMS OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS WOULD YOU CARE TO
[230:00] BLACKS BETWEEN THE TRUST OF THOSE OF THE THREE WERE LOOKING AT IS THAT TOO OPEN ENDED MIKE SHANNON.OK WE LOOKED AT UM. DIRECT VERSUS INDIRECT IMPACTS OF THE INDIRECT IMPACTS WOULD BE ADDITIONAL FLOODING ON OPEN SPACE. AND THE ISSUE WITH THE ADDITIONAL FLOODING WAS MOSTLY ASSOCIATED WITH SEDIMENT AND DEBRIS DEPOSITION RATHER THAN DEPTH AND DURATION OF WATER THAT'S GOING TO SET AN OPEN SPACE. THE SYSTEMS ARE ADAPTED TO FLOODING FROM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FLOODING IS BENEFICIAL FOR NUTRIENT EXCHANGE AND IN THAT SORT OF THING BUT I SHOULD SAY SO. THE INDIRECT IMPACTS OF FLOODING WERE AS. BIG OF A CONCERN AS THE DIRECT IMPACTS FROM STRUCTURES BEING BUILT OR EXCAVATION A KOREAN ON OPEN SPACE AS I MENTIONED TO THE VALUE OF THE OPEN SPACE LAND THE STATE NATURAL AREA.
[231:00] THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY HABITATS THAT WE HAVE THE SULPHUR CREEK FLOODPLAIN. WE'VE GONE ON AND ON ABOUT THAT ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE JUST KIND OF COMING TOGETHER ALONG SOUTH BOULDER CREEK THAT MAKE IT REALLY A UNIQUE. INNER SYSTEM SO WE LOOKS WHEN WE WERE ABOUT YOU AIDING THESE CONCEPTS CONCEPTS WE LOOKED AT AVOIDING DIRECT IMPACTS FIRST FALL AND THEN TO THE EXTENT THAT WE COULD. MINIMIZE THE INDIRECT IMPACTS AND DIRECTING THOSE IMPACTS TO AREAS THAT HAD LOWER ECOLOGICAL VALUE WHICH HAPPENED TO BE A PREVIOUSLY MINED OUT AREAS ON THIS. TRIP THAT GETS TO WHAT ARE THE HOMES SOLD IN THE SENSE THAT WE. ALL SAY SO THEREFORE
[232:00] IF YOU ARE KING YOU WOULD BE LIKE. THE SF THE END OF IT. IF I COULD SAY SOMETHING AND ON PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH MARIANNE WITH THOSE EMPTY STAFF AS THE DIRECT IMPACTS ON. FROM PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON TROUBLES MOUSE HABITAT AND WETLANDS AND WOULD BE LOOKED AT FROM THE ED AT PERMITTING AGENCIES AND AS POTENTIALLY. BIGGER DEAL IF YOU WILL THEN AND SOME OF THE MORE IN FREQUENT AND INTIMIDATION POTENTIAL SEGMENTATION IMPACTS IS THAT TRUE MOST LIKELY YES.THE SOULFUL WITH AARON AND SAM. I THINK WAS STILL DARK. BUT MY QUESTION
[233:02] IS WHETHER. ANY OF THIS AREA HERE IS CONSIDER PEBBLES JUMPING MOUSE HABITAT WHETHER ANY WELL LET'S LET'S SAY SOUTH OF THE LEVY IF ANY OF THAT EXCUSE OF PROPERTY AREAS CONSIDER PEBBLES HABITAT.YES IT IS MY ALL OR JUST TOM.I WOULD SAY MOST THAT MARY.YOU HAVE TO COME.DOES THAT OTHER MATCH SUCKED THAT YOU JUST FLASHED A DESERT SUNRISE AND MOM MOM.YET ON THE OTHER MAPPING SHOWS THE CRITICAL HAVE TO TELL WHICH IS FOCUSED ALONG THE CREEK IN THE AM. I TO EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING C LEVY. UM WITH THE CABBIE OUT OF CIRCLE THE GREEN STUFF LET'S HOLD THAT OFF BUT EVERYTHING ELSE BETWEEN THE CREEK AND THE SEA LEVY WOULD BE CONSIDERED MOUSE HABITAT.UM IT'S NOT SHOWING BUT YEAH SO ALL THAT THAT THE CURSOR THAT GENERALLY THAT'S YEAH. AND READ THE PART WITH THE WETLANDS TO CATCH A LONESOME SELVES WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED MOUSE HABITAT THEY'RE NOT USUALLY. TOO
[234:05] HAPPY AND CATCH HIM ON A CULTURE'S BUT THERE ARE SOME UPLAND AREAS AROUND THERE SO. IT'S A MIX AND I WOULD SAY THAT KERRY PROBABLY ISN'T THE HIGHEST QUALITY HABITAT BUT DEFTLY MOUSE HABITAT ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT LEVEE.SO IT'S IT'S NOT IN SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF MOUSE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MITIGATED A LONG AND WELL AND WE WOULD.THERE'S MUCH TALK OF GETTING RID OF THAT LEVEE THEN WHAT HAPPENS WELL THEN THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR. EXTENDING SOME OF THAT IF THE RESTORATION PEACE THE OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS DESIRABLE IS WANTING TO DO AND SOME OF THAT VALUE CAN SPREAD IN A LITTLE BIT. THEY'LL ALWAYS BE THAT GREAT DIFFERENCE YOU KNOW FROM. DOWN THE LEVEE RIGHT NOW IS A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL MOVEMENT BARRIER SO BEING ABLE TO GET RID OF THAT AND DOING THE ENHANCEMENT TO ITS. BEING SPOKEN ABOUT BE A WAY TO IMPROVE HABITAT CONNECTIVITY IS AS DON MENTIONED BEFORE
[235:01] COOKING.SAM NEARBY SO IT'S A PERFECT SEGUE GREAT BECAUSE I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE IS THE BIO HABITAT ASSESSMENT. TALKED ABOUT AND ARE OPEN SPACE DEPARTMENT HAD THAT BIG CIRCLE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LEVEE THAT SAID IF THAT LEVEL YOU ARE GONE.THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY RECLAIMED AS PRETTY HIGH QUALITY HABITAT SO LOOKING AT THE VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT. THAT DOESN'T HAVE MANY STRUCTURES IN THAT TOM MAY MIDDLE OF THE LEVEE BAT OF FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN AREA. SO WHAT DOES OPEN SPACES TAKE ON WHAT'S INSIDE THE LEVEE.OH AS FAR AS RESTORATION GOES IT'S OFF TO SEE LEVY WERE REMOVED.
[236:07] AGAIN THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN PILOT REAL HIGH QUALITY HABITAT AND OPEN SPACE NOW AND WHAT COULD WHAT COULD BE FAIRLY HIGH QUALITY HABITAT WITH EXTENSIVE RESTORATION EFFORTS ON THE CU PROPERTY.SO WE'VE SEEN IN THIS AREA.SOME I WOULD SAY I'M NOT REAL SUBSTANTIAL EFFORTS BY THE GRAVEL MINING COMPANY TO DO RESTORATION JUST ON THE BIO HABITATS DIAGRAM IF YOU GO FARTHER UPSTREAM TO THE LEFT OF THE FIGURE.UM THAT WAS ALSO GRAVEL MINED AND RECLAIMED MUCH LIKE THAT AREA IN GREEN CIRCLE THERE ARE SOME. OPEN SPACE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THAT IN THE MID NINETIES THE GRAVEL MINING COMPANY WORKED WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO ESTABLISH THAT AS A MITIGATION BANK AND THEY WERE PRETTY HIGH QUALITY WEAPONS.UM THEY SUPPORT YOU
[237:09] LADIES TRESSES ORCHID SURPRISINGLY AND WE'VE TRAPPED SOME PROBLEMS NOT JUMPING MICE IN THERE SO LOOKING AT RESTORATION POTENTIAL THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO RESTORE HABITAT FOR. AT LEAST THE TWO THREATENED SPECIES AND NATIVE VEGETATION THERE SAY IT'S AN EXPENSIVE LONG TERM PROPOSITION.BUT AND I'LL SAY IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE BUT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO CREATE HABITAT. AS HIGH FUNCTIONING ECOLOGICALLY INSIGHT ON THE CU PROPERTY AS WE HAVE AND IT JUST HAS TO DO IS TO OIL DEVELOPMENT IN THE TYPE OF SOIL THAT WOULD SUSTAIN THEIR HABITAT.YEAH
[238:00] THE FLOODPLAIN SOILS ARE PRETTY COMPLEX AND PRETTY UM WELL DEVELOPED WHEREAS WHEN THEY ARE DUG UP AND HAUL OFF SOME ARE SIMPLE. INSISTS CHANGING GEARS A LITTLE BIT COULD YOU SPEAK TO THE CHANGE IN THE UNDERGROUND AQUIFERS THAT FLOW INTO THE STAY NATURAL AND WHAT EFFECT THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ON THE NATURAL OR STATE LANDS. WHAT IF IF THAT WAS BUILT DOWN TO BEDROCK AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. FIRST IMAGE WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF THE WATERING HOLE WITH WITH THE UM WITH THE FLOOD WALL AND FOR ISN'T GOING TO DANCE SO.IF CRAP IF GROUNDWATER. THE DEPTH AND DURATION ARE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY.IT CAN LEAD TO A CHANGE IN VEGETATION STRUCTURE WHICH THEN CAN OBVIOUSLY CHANGE THE HABITAT.WE'VE SEEN
[239:09] ACTUALLY IN ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS JUST IN WITH SOME CHANGES IN IRRIGATION PRACTICES AFTER THE FLOOD THERE WAS SOME DAMAGE TO IRRIGATION INFRASTRUCTURE. ALONG DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO UPSTREAM OF US THIRTY SIX WHICH LIMITED OUR LESS HIS ABILITY TO FLOOD IRRIGATE. A LOT OF THESE THESE SOMEWHAT MEADOWS. AND JUST THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WE'VE SEEN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND DRYERS FECES AND NON NATIVE SPECIES INCLUDING T ZONE WHICH IS A BIG UM. WE'D SUGGEST WE DO SO AND JUST IN GENERAL.
[240:03] CHANGES AND IN GROUNDWATER ELEVATIONS OR SURFACE WATER ELEVATIONS OF MAY BE FOUR TO FIVE INCHES. AND CAN CHANGE WHEN VEGETATION AND AND GRASSLAND VEGETATION SIGNIFICANTLY A CAN CAN SHIFT TO DOMINANCE TO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLANT COMMUNITY. SAID DO YOU FEEL THAT. WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE PUT FORTH OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO. HAVE A BIG EFFECT ON THE WETLANDS ARE THE NATURAL AND OR GEEZ THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE. STAYING SPECIAL AND THAT THEY ARE NOW. UM IT'S IT'S HARD TO SAY I THINK THAT THAT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND IN TRYING TO WHILE IN UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE BUT ALSO TRYING TO DEVELOP. A SYSTEM THAT WOULD MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN WILL THE FLOW OF GROUNDWATER FLOW BE EXACTLY AS IT IS NOW HARD TO SAY. I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU ARE THE ANSWER EARLIER AND MADE AN OFF THE EFFECTS
[241:00] YOU BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH.WE ARE TALKING ABOUT UPSTREAM CONCEPTS AND HOW WE THOUGHT MAYBE THEY ARE BETTER FOR OTHER PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM BUT NOT NECESSARY THE SPILLWAY. I'M SORRY THE U S THIRTY SIX OVER TAPPING ISSUE THOUGH DIRECT IMPACTS BEING PERMITTED BUT WE'RE IN PROVING WHAT BENEFITS SO DOESN'T FLOAT BENEFITS. LOOKING AT LEAST THE LEAD TO THE ATROPHY OF THAT SLIDE THEY HAVE DOUBLES OF ONE OTHER THING THAT I WASN'T CLEAR ON RIGHT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE POTENTIAL. POTENTIAL ADDED BENEFIT OR IMPROVING THE FLOODPLAIN CONDITIONS DOWNSTREAM IN ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH THAT IS. IF THAT'S PART OF THE PURPOSE IN NEED OF THE PROJECT CURRENTLY THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT
[242:00] GENERALLY IS TO REDUCE FLOODING IN THE WEST VALLEY. RIGHT NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER IT'S A HUNDRED YEAR EVENT ARE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR EVENT.IT'S FAIRLY FOCUSED ON SOME THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BEFORE. OAK FOR FUN SAFETY I MEAN. A CERTAIN LEVEL THOUGH I MEAN THE COMMUNITY DECIDES IS AT ONE HUNDRED YEARS OF FIVE HUNDRED YEAR YOU KNOW SO THERE SOAP THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS THAT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE ALTERNATIVES.SO HAVING AN ALTERNATIVE THAT SUDDENLY DOES SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.WOODLEY THE REGULATOR TO SAY WHAT CAN YOU DO THIS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.ANOTHER WAY CAN YOU ARE THERE OTHER WAYS TO ACCRUE THESE SAME ADDED BENEFITS WITHOUT HAVING ALL THESE IMPACTS DIRECT IMPACTS TO MOUSE HABITAT SO FORTH AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE ENGINE.
[243:02] YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE THE ENGINEERING QUESTION. YOUR QUESTION IS AT WHAT POINT DOES. THE FLOOD PROTECTION OUTWEIGH THE DIRECT IMPACTS TO THE REGULATED RESOURCES. AND THE CORN FIELD LOOK AT A REASONABLE RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES THAT MEET THOSE CRITERIA THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED OF SUDDENLY THE CRITERIA IS TO MAXIMIZE DOWNSTREAM BENEFITS BEYOND WHAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT TODAY. THEN WE HAVE TO SORT OF LOOK AT WHAT WHAT ARE OTHER WAYS TO MAXIMIZE TO THE SAME LEVEL SO THAT THEY CAN WAIT.THOSE IMPACTS OF WHATEVER THE ANIMATED ENGINEERS WOULD SAY WELL YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S THIS IS THE ONLY WAY OUT AND WAS SO DEEP YOU KNOW THE SLIDE WHICH TALK ABOUT. EACH HAD TO SKIP IT.I MEAN IT'S OUR ONE OF THESE YET BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THAT THAT BIG CIRCLE.THE TRIO WITH HIM AND IF WE CAN IMPROVE UPON US LIKE ARE WE OBLIGATED TO LOOK AT IT THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON FOR DOING THIS. SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE SAID WELL MAYBE THE ARTS IS ONE OF THE ARMY CORPS NOT RIGHT.WELL
[244:02] THE SHOW THE WORKS PEOPLE WOULD LOVE THIS REGULATORY PEOPLE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW.CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THESE FLOOD BENEFITS ARE BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME.
[245:39] NOW KIRK ANNEX RESPONDED LITTLE BIT MORE BAY AND WE DON'T KNOW THE DEGREE TO WHICH THERE WOULD BE INCREASED DOWNSTREAM FLOOD BENEFITS ALONG THE MAIN STEM. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT LEVEL STUDY WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES COULD BE REMOVED.IT WAS JUST WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PARTICULARLY THAT STORE THAT OPTION THAT STORES A LOT OF VOLUME UPSTREAM THAT THAT COULD BE
[246:00] AN ADDED BENEFIT.BUT WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT IT MORE IT COULD BE STRUCTURES COULD BE MORE THAN THAT LIKE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW AT THIS TIME. I THINK CURRENT MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU ON THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS AND WHEN WE LOOK TO IT AND SORT OF SOLVING FOR THE WEST VALLEY. AND I DON'T USE WATER SUSTAINS THAT JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME AS WHY WOULDN'T WE IF WE COULD. TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE BEST OPTION OF THE COUPLE AND IF THIS CAN IMPROVE UPON THEM.IT SEEMS CRAZY THAT WE WOULDN'T BE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR FLOOD SAFETY AND WELL I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING NOTION TRIED TEASING YOU AND STICK TO THAT.I HOPE I HOPE I CAN.I HOPE I CAN HELP. WHEN WE STARTED THE ALL THE THREE
[247:00] ALTERNATIVES THE MASTER PLAN VERY WANTED VERY INTO. WHAT WE FIRST DID WAS DETERMINED HOW MUCH WHAT BENEFIT COULD WE ACHIEVE WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND THEN WE SIZED VERY ONE IN BEAR IN TWO. TO MATCH THAT FLOOD BENEFIT SO THAT WHEN YOU COMPARE ALL THE IMPACTS THE COST OF THAT SORT OF THING TO BE ON THE SAME BASIS AND WOULD BE AN APPLES AND APPLES COMPARISON.NOW WHEN WE GO FORWARD INTO PRIMARY DESIGN WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK TO SEE.COULD WE ADD MORE FLOOD BENEFITS FOR THIS OPTION BUT AT THIS LEVEL WE WERE TRYING TO DEVELOP THEM.WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE ALL THREE OPTIONS PROVIDE IDENTICAL FLOOD BENEFITS SO YOU COULD BE COMPARING APPLES AND APPLES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COST A MERE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS SO WHEN WE TOOK A QUICK LOOK AT
[248:00] THE UPSTREAM WE SAW THAT. IT MIGHT BUILD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL BENEFITS DOWNSTREAM AT THE OTHER ONES DID.NOW IF WE STUDY OTHER ONCE MORE.MY BIL FIND MORE BENEFITS FROM THEM AS WELL. AS SEEKING TO CLARIFY IT'S BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THEM AT THE FOREIGN. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME SINGER NOW. IS THIS STILL PART OF PHASE ONE WEEK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS KIND OF A CONCERN IS FOR PHASE TWO THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE LARGER PICTURE. AND WE COULD BE IMPLICATING THE PEOPLE IN FEES TO. BUY SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING UP IN PHASE ONE INSISTS ON NOT LOOKING TO IMPACT OTHER PEOPLE JUST. FIX ONE PROBLEM TO FIX ANOTHER SAID OH RIGHT. THIS IS ALL RELATING TO PHASE ONE AND THE REGION ALL. ITS GOAL OF THE MASTER PLAN WAS TO PREVENT OVER TOPPING OF US THREE SIX AND NOT TO REDUCE FLOODING ALONG THE MAIN STEM SO THIS WOULDN'T IMPACT FEES TWO OR THREE.OK ELSE WE
[249:04] WOULDN'T BE HAVING DOWNSTREAM IMPACTS RIGHT IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY WE CANNOT WITH ANY PROJECT CAUSE ANY UPSTREAM OR DOWNSTREAM NEGATIVE IMPACTS. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW.OKAY SOPHIE ALMOST EXHAUSTED BUT. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE WELL KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE YEAR POINT SUZANNE ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL. DOWNSTREAM BENEFITS AND AND THEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU SET UP ALL THE VARIANTS OF THAT YOU WERE HAVING THE SAME BENEFIT THAT SO THAT WE COULD DO APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.SO WE DO APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON. WE PICK A VARIANT AND THEN WE HAD FEATURES THAT INCREASE THE BENEFIT DOWNSTREAM.SO NOW WE'VE WE'VE PICKED ONE NOW YOU CAN START TO ADD FEATURES
[250:00] SAY TO INCREASE THE BENEFIT DOWNSTREAM SO HOW CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON HOW THAT. PROCESS OF PICKING POTENTIAL FEATURES HAPPENS NOW THAT YOU'VE. NARROWED IT DOWN TO ONE VERY END SO THE DESIGN PROCESS IS EVOLUTIONARY. AND IF YOU START WITH A MASTER PLAN YOU KNOW YOU LOOKED AT THINGS FROM. GROCERIES ARE ALWAYS ON THE CONFLUENCE WITH BOULDER CREEK RIGHT AND YOU ENDED UP WITH THIS SITE AND MASTER PLAN CONCEPT DE RITE DEN WE TOOK OVER WE LOOK AT THE SIGHT OF GOAL.WHAT CAN WE DO ON THIS SITE HOW CAN WE. WHAT IDEAS TO COME UP WITH TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS AND THE USE OF THIS SITE.THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW RIGHT CON THESE THREE CONCEPTS BUT YOU GUYS YOU TO DECIDE WHICH ONE TO GO FORWARD TONIGHT HOPEFULLY. AS SOON AS YOU PICK A CONCEPT THEN WE WILL SAY OK HOW CAN WE MAXIMIZE THIS CONCEPT.HOW CAN WE
[251:04] MINIMIZE ITS COSTS TALK WE MINIMIZE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ARE THERE ANY THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THIS CONCEPT TO IMPROVE THE BENEFITS DOWNSTREAM SO WE WILL FURTHER. THE DESIGN PROCESS WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. BUT WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WE'VE DEVELOPED CALLED KIND THE SAME LEVEL WE PICK ONE AND THEN WE ZERO IN ON IT TO TRY TO IMPROVE IT. TO THE ROLE OF THE UPSTREAM. CONCEPT FARTHER INTO THE LAKE UPSTREAM COM CONCEPTS IMPROVE EITHER ONE OF OUR TWO VARIANTS BECAUSE THAT'S. SOME OF IT POINTS AT DIRECTION BUT EVERYBODY IS LIKE NOT ALL IT'S WEAK ENOUGH TO START OVER BUT IT'S LIKE. WELL WOULDN'T YOU ADD SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS THAT THEY WOULD IMPROVE SAY THAT THE U S THIRTY SIX CONFECTION FROM.
[252:01] THERE HE'LL BE FINE BUT SO LOOKS LIKE A PROBLEM SO THE UPSTREAM IN COMBINATION WITH THE DOUBTS ARE VERY ONE VARIANT TO COME AS A FEATURE SO. YES I'M LIKELY GOING AT COST LIKELY GOING AT PERMITTING DIFFICULT. IF NOT YOU KNOW IF THE AGENCY DOESN'T NEGATE THE ALTERNATIVE COMPLETELY BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. SAID ANOTHER WAY VERY ONE VARIANT TO CONSULT THE PROBLEM. AND PROVIDE THE DOWNSTREAM FLOOD MITIGATION WITH LIMITED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT YOU THE UPSTREAM IT SOLVES THE PROBLEM AS WELL BUT USING BUT WITH INCREASED ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. TO SUE THE ROOM COULDN'T THERE BE LESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO THE STATE NATURAL AREA IN TERMS OF SILT A SIAN THAT WE JUST HEARD ABOUT. SO AND I
[253:00] THINK MARY'S MOST QUALIFIED ANSWER THIS QUESTION WILL TAKE THE FIRST AT BAT AT A FEDERAL REGULATORY FOR FOUR PERMIT.THEY'RE NOT TERRIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COLOR OF STATE NATURAL AREA.THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WEAPONS AND FEDERALLY LISTED ENDANGERED SPECIES.THAT'S THEIR PURVIEWTHE SURCHARGE SO THEY'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THOSE THINGS. OTHER YOU KNOW WHAT BT YOURSELVES OTHER PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE OTHER RESOURCES AND IF I COULD STEP IN FOR JUST A MOMENT.ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE KEEP COMING BACK TO YOU IF WE KNEW. IF HE DIRECTED US TO STUDY THIS CONCEPT FURTHER REALLY DEFINING WHAT THE CRITERIA IS OUR ARE THE PARAMETERS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH A. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS JUST AS ROD SAID TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WE ARE RE ESTABLISHED THE CURRENT CONCEPTS DO THAT IF YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THAT CRITERIA.THIS WOULD JUST ADD
[254:03] COST TO ADD ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ECCENTRIC CETERA WHAT WE'VE HEARD TO THE PROCESS AND FROM THE BOARDS AND FROM SOME OF YOU. IS THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ON ADDITIONAL INTERESTS LIKE THE ANNOTATION ON TOWSON KEY THAT MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL CRITERIA BY WHICH STUDYING THIS FURTHER.MY AIDS BENEFIT AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT CLARITY ON. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS SO THAT WE CAN CRAFT THIS ALTERNATIVE IN A WAY THAT NEEDS THAT NEW CRITERIA. IN A WAY THAT MAYBE SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCEPTS DOUGH ARE GOOD HONEST YOU ONE LAST QUESTION.SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD IS CONCERN.UM ABOUT VARIANT WON THAT DEAL EACH AND ALL AND THE DRY CREEK DITCH MOM.
[255:01] TO TALK TO EACH OTHER DURING A FLOOD AND SO WHAT WOULD BE GOING DOWN THE LI CHANNEL CAN END UP IN DRY CREEK DITCH AND THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT THAT WORD CREEK FLOODING DOWNSTREAM.SO WHAT WOULD BE DONE VERY WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR WAS WE WERE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH WHAT WOULD BE DONE WITH THE LEECH AND ALL TO IMPROVE ITS ABILITY TO CARRY WATER SAFELY.FIRST WE HAVE TO DO THE MODELS TO DETERMINE IF IT NEEDED TO BE IMPROVED. AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN SO IF THAT MEANS COMPLETE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BEACH AND ON DRY CREEK OR IF THAT MEANS. INCREASING THE CONVEYANCE CAPACITY OF EACH AND ALL THEY WOULD ALL NEED TO BE DETERMINED THROUGH THE PRIMARY DESIGN AND MODEL RUNS.WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT THE ONLY CHANNEL AND MOST OF US WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE CONDITION NOW AND HOW IT
[256:00] INTERACTS WITH DRY CREEK DITCH DURING SAY TWENTY THIRTEEN FLOOD. SO THE BENEFIT OF ANY ONE OF THESE CONCEPTS IS ONCE YOU CUT OFF THE OVER TOPPING OF US THIRTY SIX YOU SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WATER. THAT FLOWS IN THE VALLEY CHANNEL AREA NORTH OF U S THIRTY SIX. SO THAT ALONE WITH OUR PRIMARY MODEL RUNS INDICATE THAT ACTUALLY WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING IT WOULD LAST AND THE AMOUNT OF FLOOD WATERS BETWEEN U S THIRTY SIX AND SOUTH BOULDER ROAD.BUT LIKE I SAID THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A COMPONENT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT FURTHER INFLAME REDESIGN PARTICULARLY IF THERE WERE FEATURES THAT WE NEED TO. COMPLETELY ENSURE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE BEACH AND OFTEN DRY CREEK DITCH NUMBER TWO.OK LET'S START
[257:08] MAKING SOME DECISIONS VERY SICK. SO SOON USGS BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT. OK IN TERMS OF PROCESS WE TALK ABOUT CONCEPTS LIKE EIGHT THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED YEAR FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO THAT WEIGH IN AND SEWER RAT AND UP WITH EMOTION IS THAT. RIGHT THAT LEAD UP TO GOD. WAS GOING TO PUT OUT THAN FIVE HUNDRED YEARS IS AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT I THINK WE SHOULD CARRY FORWARD INTO WHATEVER CHOICE THAT ROENICKE TO START FIVE HUNDRED ANYBODY THAT'S. THE WAY IT'S AFFORDABLE AFFORDABLE HELPS MORE PEOPLE DOUBLES ITS CLIMATE CHANGE OK SO THAT'S REALLY THE SMALLER CREEKS. KATE THEN IT STARTS TO GET THINNER.AFTER THAT UM THE I
[258:01] HAVE ANOTHER CONCEPT THEY THINK EVERYBODY'S WITH THEM AND THEY KNOW ARE TRYING TO START DELIBERATION BIT. KERR WAS GOING TO AND THE GROUNDWATER MOVEMENT MITIGATION IS IMPORTANT AND YOU'RE GOING TO. BRING UP THE SIDE THAT SHOWED THE FLOOD WALLS AM BEING TAKEN DOWN THIS CONTINUOUSLY INSTEAD OF CONTINUOUSLY. YEARS AND THOSE WHO DEFRAUD LOVES BUT DOES IT IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU DETERMINE WHICH OPTION WHEN CHOOSING OR IS IT JUST REALLY INTERESTING.NO IT'S THE IF YOU WANNA GO AND A REALLY INTERESTING STUFF I KNOW I GET THOSE WE SAW TIGERS THAT IS. THE SONG NO SEVEN BUT HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IT'S JUST ONE SLIDE.YES SO THIS IS
[259:11] THE SLIDE THAT I WAS REFERRING TO IT AGAIN THIS IS CARTOON BUT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE CONCEPT OF WAYS TO ELIMINATE ANY GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. AND FOR THIS WHOLE CONCEPT. BUT THIS ONE SHOWS THAT YOU WOULD NEED ABOUT THREE HUNDRED FOOT EARTHEN BERM SHAO AND THEIR PROPOSED ITS TIME SHOULD BE OR THAN FIRMS ARE YOUR CARIBBEAN FOOTBALL. THAT WE'VE JUST PLAYED WELL IN YES SMALLER DARK BLUE TINT ABOUT THT WE FINK ABOUT THREE HUNDRED FEET. THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN A LOCATION THERE'S A LITTLE HIGH POINT THERE'S THAT'S WHY WE SHOWED IT THERE. AND THAT WOULD BE TO PREVENT WHATEVER'S NOT CAPTURED IN THAT GREAT BIG. BLUE AREA IN THE UPSTREAM CONCEPT THOUGH IT STILL SPILL OUT AND IF WE DIDN'T CAPTURE THAT THAT
[260:00] WOULD GO TO THAT LOW POINT FILL UP AND POTENTIALLY OVER TOP. THE OTHER METHOD WOULD BE TO JUST MOVE AT ANY OTHER CONCEPT WE SHOW THAT THE PROPOSED FLOOD WALL WITHIN THE SEED AT RIGHT AWAY.THE OTHER CONCEPT WOULD BE TO CONSTRUCT YOU THE FLOOD WALL OR CHANGE IT TO AN EARTHEN BERM.I GUESS YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN EARTHEN BERM ON OPEN SPACE LAND HAPPIER THAN BERM SO. MUCH LONGER AND WOULD BE THE SAME LENGTH BUT JUST MOVED TO THE SOUTH AND OPEN SPACE. AND USE THE GROUNDWATER CONVEYANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO THE QUALITY OF OUR ECOSYSTEM SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MY DISMAY THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. BUT I HAVE ONE OTHER THING WE MIGHT ALL AGREE ON THE HILL HAS ARISEN AS GETTING RID OF THE SEAL OF THE YEAR.OK SO LET'S GET RID OF THAT.OKAY OKAY SO THAT YOU
[261:01] CAUSE IT TO GET HUGE AND SO I GUESS ONE. THAT I WOULD HOPE YOU'D AGREE I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE IS. IS IT FOR MOVING IN TO CONVERSATION JUST ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED YEAR OPTIONS ONE OF THE MEATS ARE BASELINE CRITERIA AND MORE THAN PRESENTS HOW. ARE WE GOING TO ABANDON OUR BASELINE CRITERIA ONE OF THEM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SEE YOU SENT AGAIN TODAY A LETTER TO COUNCIL BEING VERY VERY VERY EXPLICITLY CLEAR THAT. YEAH I MEAN I THINK I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO. MAKE A DECISION SO I WILL GO AHEAD
[262:00] AND PUT IN THE PLUG FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH A VARIANT TO FIVE HUNDRED YEAR OPTION.I JUST POINT OUT I WON'T TALK FOR LONG TIME WE'VE TALKED THROUGH WE ASK LOTSA QUESTIONS I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE DETAILS REALLY THOROUGHLY HERE. BUT JUST AT THE VERY TWO SCORED THE BEST ON THE LONG LIST OF CRITERIA IT WAS THE CHOICE OF THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY WAS PUT OUT TO. FEEDBACK AND IT WAS AGREEABLE TO ALL OF OUR ADVISORY BOARDS. AND IT AVOIDS THE DIRECT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS THAT I THINK ARE TO ME. A FATAL FLAW OF THE UPSTREAM OPTION WHICH INVOLVES ACTUALLY PUTTING CONSTRUCTION IN HABITAT FOR ENDANGERED SPECIES WHICH I DON'T THINK IS A GOOD IDEA SO I'M. GOING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BUT ALSO SAYING THAT I THOUGHT THAT. THE ONE TO UNDERSTAND THE ONE SIGNIFICANT. POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THAT OPTION IS THE ADDITIONAL FLOODING ON. THE SNP LANDS
[263:01] WHICH DOES INVOLVE SOME POTENTIAL AND ADDITIONAL SEGMENTATION I THOUGHT THE OPEN SPACE BOARD OF TRUSTEES HAD A REALLY GOOD LIST OF SUGGESTIONS FOR WAYS TO MITIGATE AN OFFSET THOSE POTENTIAL IMPACTS.SO IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH VERY INTO POVERTY OR I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDE. A THOROUGH EXPLORATION OF THE O S P T'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND GO THROUGH AND SEE HOW MANY THOSE WE CAN IMPLEMENT. BECAUSE OF THEIR GREAT LESSON COULD END UP WITH IF YOU REMOVE THE LEVEE AND EVENTUAL SITUATION THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL VALUES OF THE ENTIRE AREA.IF WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A NUMBER OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.SO SAYS THE MOTION GOING TO DISCUSS THOUGH SO I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH SERENE TO FIVE HUNDRED YEARS. AND FOR ME THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WERE SUPPOSE TO BE HERE DISCUSSING IS SAFETY. AND MY CONCERN WITH VARIANT TO.
[264:01] WHETHER IT BE THE ONE HUNDRED OR THE FIVE HUNDRED IS THIS U S THIRTY SIX FLOW RESTRICTION. AND I THINK THAT IS JUST GOING TO GET IS RIGHT BACK TO WHAT WE EXPERIENCED IN TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN AND I THINK IT PUTS PEOPLE GIVES THEM A FALSE SECURITY. DOWNSTREAM AND I I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD WANT TO FOCUS THIS FLOW INTO SOUTH BOULDER CREEK AS WOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS I'M VERY INTO SANTA. SO THEY PUT OUT WHAT THE WHAT WOULD YOU. WELL I I WOULD PROPOSE FOR THE VARIANT LAND AND THE FIGHT FOR THE RESULT IN A FLOW RESTRICTION ON US THIRTY SIX OR EIGHT OTHERS.I
[265:01] GUESS I JUST SPENT AN HOUR AND A HALF LISTENING TO EXPERTS TELL US THERE WOULDN'T BE FLOW RESTRICTION SO I'M CONFUSED WHAT WE'RE NOT EXPERTS APPEAR WERE. YOU WERE A GROUP OF CITIZENS AND WE JUST HEARD FOR AN HOUR AND HALF FROM EXPERTS THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE NOTED OTHER THOUGHTS ON WE SHOULD GO UP.I WAS ON I CAME IN TO THIS EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOW RESTRICTIONS MYSELF AND THAT WAS PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE RESERVATION ON PERIOD.TWO I WAS VERY PERSUADED BY THE EXPERTS UM I DON'T KNOW THE STUFF BUT WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR LIVING.ALLISON IS GOING TO BE NO WORSE THAN THE BRIDGE IS RIGHT OUT OF THE WORDS BE HELPFUL RESEARCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE GOT TO BRIDGE THE POSSIBLE RESTRICTIONS WE PUT BRIDGES.IT SOUNDS IF I UNDERSTOOD OUR EXPERTS QUICKLY FLOW RESTRICTION. IS NOT GOING TO INCREASE RISK ANY GREATER THAN WILL HAVE WITH THE BRIDGE THERE WHICH IS THE CASE. IN EVERY ONE OF THESE VARIANTS OF THESE RANTS INVOLVES A BRIDGE TO IN THERE AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT CAN BE NO WORSE THAN IT IS TODAY.
[266:05] AS NOT TO BE ANY. WORSE THAN IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE OR ANY OF THESE VARIATIONS SO WITH THAT TAKEN OFF THE TABLE THAT WAS MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN BAVARIAN TOO AND SO. FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT AARON SAID IT WOULD PROBABLY SUPPORT FOR IT TO FIVE HUNDRED OTHERS.I DO APPRECIATE THE OPINION OF THE EXPERTS AT BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE ARE LOOKING DOWN AT RISK YOUR PATH AND LESS RISKIER PATH AND SO I. DON'T HAVE THE QUALIFICATION TONIGHT AND THEY WOULD BE FURTHER DESIGN THAT WOULD BE DONE ON THIS. BUT YOU KNOW WE TAKE SOMETHING THAT'S PURTY THE THIRTEEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF APERTURE AREA AND WE SHRINK IT.WE DO SO IN A WAY THAT I'M SURE WOULD BE DONE. IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN NOT INCREASE THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER TOPPING EVENT AND THE FLOODING THE WEST VALLEY.
[267:08] MOM IN EITHER CASE WE'RE DOING A FIVE HUNDRED EURO VARIANT SO THE FREE BOARD AS FAR AS WHAT WE WILL HOLD IN RESERVE IN THAT DEFINITION WILL PROBABLY BE. THIS EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SENATORS THING THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VARIANCE IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE OPEN SPACE OTHER.I MEAN THERE'S EIGHTY ACRES OF OH SO UNDER THE VARIANT WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR THAT IS GOING TO END UP BEING FLOODED HER OCCUPIED AS NINETEEN ACRES OF THAT IN THE AREA TOO.WE'VE GOT THE SEGMENTATION AND AND SO PATIENT CONCERN THAT WE HAVE THERE.I DO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THAT CU HAS CONCERNS WITH THIS I HOPE WE CAN WORK WITH THEM BUT OUR FIRST PRINCIPLE. OF DURING CU SOUTH THAT WE ADOPTED WHEN WE ADOPTED THE FLOOD PLAN WAS SORRY THE COMP PLAN. WAS A FLOOD MITIGATION PROTECTING CITY OF BOULDER BOULDER COUNTY RESIDENTS FROM FUTURE
[268:00] FLOODING EVENT AS A PRIMARY DRIVER.SECOND TO THAT IS COLLABORATION WITH CU NOW SO YOU WOULD LOSE THIRTY SIX ACRES OF PUBLIC. LAND USE DESIGNATION AS A RESULT OF THE VERY ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF WE WERE TO GO THAT WAY. BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME BACK. AND DO LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGES THAT WOULD ASSIST WITH THAT BUT ALSO ALLOW ABOUT NINETY THREE ACRES OF DEVELOPED PROPERTY. ON THAT SIDE WHICH AS ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER POINTED OUT TO ME TODAY IF WE WERE TO DO TWENTY DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.KNOCK OUT THIRTY PERCENT OF IT BECAUSE IT COULDN'T BE BUILT WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BUILD MORE. UNITS ON THAT SITE AND CU HAS TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO BUILD SO I THINK YOU KNOW SO FAR. AS WE'VE
[269:01] GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE HAS LED TO AN IMPROVEMENT. AND WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FOR SO THESE THAT WILL PROTECT PRICES MANY PEOPLE FOR TEN PERCENT MORE MONEY. AND I MEAN TO ME THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE BROADEST SET OF PLAYERS AND I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.WE'RE GOING TO SELECT AN OPTION THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A POTENTIAL OVER TOP AND THAT COULD CREATE THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT WITH THIS PROJECT. IS TO SUCCUMB TO THAT POINT I MEAN I'M JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX HERE IS THERE POSSIBILITY OF DOING. THE FIVE HUNDRED VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED BUT WITH THE TENSION WHICH MAY THEN ALLOW STEED TO HAVE ISSUE THAT THEY'RE. CONCERNED ABOUT
[270:11] AND US AND HE MIGHT BE ON BOARD AND BECAUSE IT WOULD IMPACT AND STATE NATURAL AND IT'S LESS OF SILENCE.I LOVE YOU POSED IT AS A QUESTION SO I WAS CHECKED THAT I DON'T I'M DESTROYING OUT THERE. SORRY I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR ALL OF IT. SO I'M SAYING IS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN OPTION IN ORDER TO APPEASE EU APPEASE US AND HE HAD THE SAFETY THAT WE NEED DOWNSTREAM.I COULD REDO ONE HUNDRED OR THE VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR OPTION WITH AN UPHILL THE TENSION. AND WITH THAT HELP US AND WE TRIED TO PRESENT THE TRUE COSTS OF THAT AND SO THAT THERE COULD BE LOOKED AT HIM AGAIN THAT.
[271:00] THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WITH THAT THAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING BY THE DIRECT IMPACTS BUT IT CERTAINLY COULD BE COMBINED. THIS JUST A THOUGHT IF WE LOOK TO US.BUT THIS TIME THEY HAVE A QUESTION. WELL SO IF WE ASKED YOU TO SPEND FOUR TO SIX WEEKS AND LOOKING AT UP SLOPE TERM CONSIDERATIONS COULD DUE TO THEIR WAY.WE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE CONSULTANTS ABOUT BEFORE IS SAID. TO REALLY DO THEIR ANALYSIS WHICH IS NOT THE QUICK AND DIRTY ANALYSIS THAT WITH HIM DOING THAT THROUGH THIS BOARD PROCESS BUT ACTUALLY A THOROUGH ANALYSIS WITH THE PROJECT TEAM ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS.IT WOULD TAKE
[272:05] THE CONSULTANTS EIGHT WEEKS. AND THEN IT WILL TAKE US PROBABLY THREE WEEKS TO THEN GET BACK IN FRONT OF YOU THROUGH MEMOS AND PRODUCTION AND TRANSLATION OF THAT WORK INTO SOMETHING DIGESTIBLE SO. THAT'S WHERE THAT THREE MONTHS COMES AN OK THROUGH THE VEIL SO TO SPEAK IN WAYS WE CAN GO AROUND AGAIN.EUNICE PHOENIX IN D I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I AGREE WITH SAM'S. THE POINTS THAT HE'S BROUGHT FORWARD AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT VARIANT WON THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR WITH THE ADDITIONAL UPSTREAM. POSSIBILITIES THAT NEARBY MANSION AS LONG AS THEY'RE LOOKING THEY COULD BE LOOKING AT THAT IS WELL AND SOULS FOR TALKING ABOUT RISKS TO THE COMMUNITY.I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE RISKY WE CAN GET THEM MOVING FORWARD INTO PRELIMINARY DESIGN WHICH. WE'VE BEEN TOLD WILL BE UP TO
[273:00] TEN PERCENT OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST ON A CONCEPT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS ALREADY SAID NO TO. IT BUT THAT SEEMS TO ME TWO PIECE PUTTING ON MY RESIDENCE IN SUCH EXTREME RISK. IF IT WAS OUR ONLY OPTION WE WOULD DO IT BUT WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION BEFORE US. THAT OUR WATER RESEARCH ADVISORY BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE SAID THAT THEY PREFER. THAT THE EXPERTS SAY IS SAFE THAT THE EXPERTS SAY DON'T HAVE BLOCKAGE PROBLEMS THAT PROTECTS AGAINST THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD. THIS FEELS LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO JAM A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME AT WELL MARY SPEAK TO ME.WELL A GOOD STUCK IT TO
[274:00] HIS DREAM TO SEE WHERE WE ENDED UP. COMING IS I'M STILL GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE IT GIVE IT A SHOT TO JUST JUST ONE WORD ON THE VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR LIKE. IF WE WERE TO PURSUE WHO WERE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY EXPLORING AN OPTION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS NOT WILLING TO CONSIDER.I THINK THAT WOULD NOT BE. A GOOD USE OF OUR TAXPAYER FUNDS.
[275:06] AM I TO EVEN HAVE TO SIDE IS EEN BODY MOTION.OH OKAY I HAVE A LIE CAN SUPPORT THE MOTION AND HERE'S WHY BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS A SIGH BEEN INVOLVED WITH CITY. ISSUES SINCE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE EVER ACTUALLY LOOKED AT ANY PROJECT THAT IS SEVENTH GENERATION AND BEYOND KIND OF THINKING. THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT. MORE GENERATIONS THAN ANY OF US CAN EVEN FATHOM LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE.
[276:00] AND WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT WE'RE TALKING NOT JUST THE CURRENT RESIDENCE BUT WERE WERE PROTECTING RESIDENTS OUT INTO THE WAY FUTURE AND WITH CONDITIONS THAT ARE CHANGING. WITH THE WITH POTENTIALLY DRASTIC ENVIRONMENTALLY AND DIFFERENT. WEATHER PATTERNS AND BETTER THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER SOUL TO SPEND SOME. TEN WEEKS ON A TIMELINE OF FOUR EVER. SEEMS TO ME THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE APPEAR SITTING HERE MAKING PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DECISION THAT WE WILL ANY OF US WILL EVER MAKE ON COUNCIL. THAT THAT'S THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AND I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK BEYOND.AND YES I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE ALL THE PEOPLE AND ARE UNSURE IT'S VERY ANGRY MOM BUT. WE
[277:00] HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE LONG LONG TERM AND I'M TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY AND TO TAKE TEN WEEKS AND COMPARE IT TO FOR EVER TIMELINE.MOM SEEMS TO ME TO BE A MORE REASONABLE ACTION TO TAKE A QUESTION. FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT SUPPORTING VARIOUS. FOLKS THAT WERE SPEAKING IN TERMS OF AREAS ON NEARBY PUT OUT NOTION OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THE UPSTREAM CONCEPTS I GUESS I'M CURIOUS. IS AT A PART OF THE THINKING. AND IF SO LET US JUST WANT TO FLESH OUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE MOM AND HOW IT MIGHT ADDRESS.
[278:00] THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHICH IS THAT CU SAID AS HE IS. NOT INTERESTED IN VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR BUT WHETHER OR NOT LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT GET TO AN ANSWER IN TEN WEEKS. SO I GUESS THAT IF AND WHEN TO SPEAK TO THAT PIECE OF THE TIME WHEN. YOU MAKE A BOAT BUT I JUST FEEL TO THE STATEMENT IS PROBABLY INFORM THE QUESTION TO TWO FRANCIS WHO I THINK STILL HERE.I THINK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE UPSTREAM OPTION COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE ASKED THE U K FROM HOLY ABOUT THAT THAN TO DECLARE THIS VARIANT TO STREAM.UM I THINK AT THAT TIME SEASONS WAS WE DON'T KNOW MAYBE THEY KNOW NOW OR MAYBE THEY STILL DON'T KNOW BUT AT LEAST IT'S TO JOE'S POINT IT'S NOT A DEFINITE NO. COME ON IN FRANCE SHE WANTED A CRACK AT THE QUESTION IN TWO WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT IT.OR MAYBE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ANSWERING NO I SEE WELL AGAIN.UMMI WOULD SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.CERTAINLY
[279:03] THE COMBINATION OF ARAM ONE WITH THE UPSTREAM OPTION. CONSUMES THAT WHOLE AREA AND SO NOW THERE ARE NO LONGER IS ACREAGE FOR US TO. CHAT WITH THE CAN CITY IN THE OPEN SPACE BOARD ABOUT MAYBE DOING SOME EXCHANGE OR CONTRIBUTION OF SOME OF THAT LAND TOWARDS OPEN SPACE THAT IS NOW OFF THE PLEA. BUT BUT BUT WITH RESPECT TO UPSTREAM YOU'RE NOT SAYING EITHER NO OR YES TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO AN ONLINE THING YOU STILL A BALL. THERE AND TWO WITH THE UPSTREAM OPTION. AND SO AGAIN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT OH SO AREA WITH THE OPEN SPACE TRUSTEES AND OTHERS AS WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEN IT'S DEDICATED. TO THAT FLOOD MITIGATION OPTION IN SAYING THAT OH SO ERIN GOES PREDOMINATELY AND I WOULD WOULD. FILTER OUT WE
[280:03] PUT RATHER ARBITRARY LABELS ON THESE THREE SECTIONS OF LAND WAS SO. AND PARK SO JUST ASSUME FOR SAKE OF DISCUSSION WE HAVE WITHIN OUR POWER TO CHANGE THOSE BOUNDARIES AND CAN FIX THEM AND MAKE THEM RIGHT.SO ASSUMING THAT YOU MAY BE SKEPTICAL BUT I THINK WE ACTUALLY DO THE MINUTES OF FOUR BY THE DECISION REFLECTED ON THE THREE BODIES BUT THAT DIFFERENCE CASH.UM BECAUSE I LOOK AT WHAT I LOOK AT THE MAP THERE.THESE THESE TWO MODELS.THERE'S A HECKUVA LOTTA LAND BUT FOR CU.I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DON'T LIKE DURIAN WONKS KS YOU LOSE A LOT OF LAND AND GET WHAT YOU SAY NO AND IT'S IN THE AREA THAT WE CAN TELL. MARY THAT YOU CAN BUILD ON THAT SEEMS TO ME WHEN I LOOK AT THESE TWO THESE MAPS THESE TWO VERY EXTREME MAPS. COMPARE IT TO THE ONE THAT YOU LIKE WHICH WERE AT TWO. HUNDRED LOOKS LIKE YOU GET A LITTLE AND I MEAN AM I MISSING SOMETHING. THOUGH I THINK IT PRESERVES THE LAND THAT WE DESIGNATE AS THE AREA THAT WE COULD BUILD THOSE STRUCTURES AND IN
[281:00] THE PARK SYRIA. IS THE AREA WHERE WE HAD AGREED WE WOULD CUT OIL FIELDS THAT WOULDN'T MIND BEING FLOODED LIKE A SOCCER FIELD. ACROSS THE FIELD EXPOSURE ANSWER SEEMS IT WAS TOO WHICH IS EITHER YES OR NO ON BARRIER TO UPSTREAM IS JUST YOU DON'T KNOW AND YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION.WELL WE DON'T HAVE A I THINK ENOUGH INFORMATION TO HOW IT IMPACTS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE LAND THAT IT'S LYING ON.THERE ARE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS O S OH AND THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ONE POINT IN TERMS OF COULD PARSONS OF THOSE. BE USED TO GO TO OPEN SPACE AND SOME FORCE FORM OR FASHION.WE HAVEN'T TALKED THAT THROUGH BUT WOULD BE. I THINK THE OPEN SPACE BOARD SPECIFICALLY HAS ASKED FOR PRACTICALLY THE WHOLE THING ALL HUNDRED AND EIGHTEEN ACRES PLUS WATER RATES IN SOME FROSTING ON TOP BUT BUT SEE. THOSE OF THE LANDS THAT
[282:11] WE COULD DO THAT WITH SO NOW IF THEY'RE DEDICATED TO FIRMS ARE SORE OR STRUCTURES THEY ARE NOW DEDICATED TO THAT. AS WE DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY OF HOLLAND SAY IS THE DEAL.FRANCIS THANKS FOR BEING HIM ARM SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR THEY ARE IN ONE CONCEPT.IT LOOKS TO ME LIE YOU HAVE. ROOM FOR PARKS BEHIND THE DAM RIGHT WHICH IS THE FIELDS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT THERE'S ALSO ROOM FOR PARKS YOU HAVE THAT MAP YOU CAN PULL OF YEAH UM BUT IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE. SINCE THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN IS IS OFF LIMITS THERE'S. THE ABILITY JUST LIKE THAT WAS WITH PARKS SERVE ANOTHER TO PUT FACILITIES THEIR FIELDS WHATEVER FACILITIES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PUT
[283:00] THERE AND YOU STILL HAVE NINETY THREE ACRES. OF LAND DESIGNATED AS TO DEVELOP. SO HAVE YOU DONE ANY THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO ON NINETY THREE ACRES AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS SNOW WE HAVE. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT. WE HAVE A LIMITED NUMBER OF NEED FOR SOCCER LACROSSE AND OTHER KINDS OF FIELDS AND WITHIN THAT AREA THAT FLOODED IN THIS VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED. ARE TENNIS COURT FACILITIES THAT WHITMAN TIME THAT WE NEED TO AND LOCKER ROOMS TO MAYBE SOME OFFICES FOR THE COACH. DOESN'T SEEM THAT THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT THOSE FACILITIES IN AN AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR FLOOD DETENTION IN A FIVE HUNDRED YEAR RETENTION AREA. OF PERCEIVING CUTS OF TWO POINT TWO PERCENT CHANCE PER YEAR THAT YOU WOULD HAVE COURTS THAT WERE FLOODED.SURELY YOU COULD LOCATE THE LOCKER ROOMS IN THE OTHER FOR SO IF HE'S NOT IN THAT FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN AND IF YOUR TENNIS COURTS ARE UNDER WATER. ONCE
[284:00] EVERY FIVE HUNDRED YEARS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE A U N I COULD SIT HERE AND SPECULATE ON THE CITY PARTY DONE ACTUALLY. AND STILL I DON'T HAVE THE INPUT OF EXPERTS AT CU WHAT WE NEED TO DO WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH NCAA REGULATIONS ARE PACKED ALL THE OTHER THINGS BUT. I CAN SAY THAT THAT IS A CONCERN FOR US. THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO MOVE THOSE AND THAT WOULD BE AN EXPENSE A USAGE OF ACREAGE. ON TOP OF THE REDUCTION OF THIRTY SIX ACRES FOR USE OF BUILDING HABITABLE STRUCTURES FOR THE HOUSING. AND WE DON'T GAIN WHAT WE CONSIDER RE USAGE IN THE PARKS AREA BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME KINDS OF FIELDS THAT ARE OKAY WITH BEING FLOODED.SO BEEN JUST A FOLLOW UP THE MESS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.UM DO YOU HAVE KIND OF A NEEDS LIST YET ABOUT LIKE HOW MANY ACRES YOU DO NEED OR BECAUSE. YOU DON'T WRITE SO WE'RE WORKING ON OUR MASTER PLAN AND HOUSING PLAN FOR STUDENTS AND OTHER THINGS RIGHT NOW BUT THESE TAKE TIME. WE ENTERED INTO THIS
[285:07] PRODUCT PROCESS NOW AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS PROCESS OF ME WANTED TO SUPPORT. WATER MITIGATION FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECT SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE AT THIS POINT. IT SURE SEEMS LIKE THERE SHOULD BE SOME WAY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT HERE I MEAN I CAN SEE A PATH OR ROAD.I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ACCESS OFF OF NINETY THREE. BUT IT SURE SEEMS LIKE AND WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL DESIGN THIS IS A SPACE A KIND OF A CARTOON RODENT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE. THAT MIGHT MITIGATE SOME OF THIS SO. I WOULD JUST ASK WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT IN THIS PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TREATED WELL BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON. DOING THE BEST FLOAT DESIGN THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN FOR THE PEOPLE DOWNSTREAM AND SO ON.LET'S NOT STOP TALKING TO MY REQUEST YOU ABSOLUTELY ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO TALKING. JUST
[286:02] WITH THE FACTS AS YOU SAY WE HAVE LIMITED DESIGN INFORMATION NOW ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE NOW. WE HAVE TO GIVE YOUR POSITION SEE HOW THAT INFORMATION IN YOUR DECISION MAKING THAT ODD VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED DOES NOT WORK FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF JORDAN LISA.I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MARY SAID EARLIER THAT THIS IS. THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION WE WILL LIKELY MAKE IN DECADES AND WE SHOULD BE FORWARD THINKING RODE DOWN THE LINE. AND TO ME THAT LEADS TO ONE MORE REASON THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE VERY NATURE SHOULD BE THE CHOICE WHICH IS THAT. IT WAS MORE ADAPTABLE TO CLIMATE CHANGE MOVEMENT ARE BUT THIS IS EASIER VARIANT TO ADJUST IN THE FUTURE IF THINGS CHANGE SO. THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE WAS DIFFERENT TOO AND THEN. SECOND I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE BUT IN SAYING THAT THE PEOPLE ARE SURE TO BE MAD BUT. THE PEOPLE ON SHIRTS MANY OF
[287:00] THEM WERE THE ONES THAT WERE CARRIED OUT OF FOUR FEET OF WATER IN THE PITCH BLACK IN OUR OLDER CITIZENS. LIVING IN BOONE MOST HARM'S WAY AND HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS PROCESS FROM DAY ONE DAY SO THERE WILL BE MAD FOR GOOD REASON.OK I GET ASKED THE CROWD TO BEHAVE IN A KIMONO SO JOE IF WE PRY IT FREE.PROCEED WITH VERY WARM. WHY WOULD IT BE DELAYED.I MEAN ONE OF THE CONCERNS I SEE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN TO US TIME AND AGAIN IT'S ABOUT DELAY.I DON'T SEE VERY ONE ITSELF IS NECESSARILY BEING DELAYED IT CAN PROCEED UP OR DETENTION. MAYBE IT'S ON IT'S ON TRACK BUT I DON'T SEE ANY MOVE BY ANYBODY EVER HEARD ON COUNCIL YET TO SAY DELAY MOVING FORWARD WITH HER AND ONE HAVE YOU. VARIANT ONE THOUSAND YEAR DOES NOT MEET OUR BASELINE CRITERIA OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREEING TO IT.
[288:34] FRANCIS THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU STAYING WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN. ON SOME SIDE AT THE TABLE FOR A COUPLE DECADES SO IF YOU KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT RELATIONSHIP. AND I DON'T HEAR ANY ONE OF US UP HERE AS TALKING ABOUT THE LADY I THINK WHAT IT'S IT'S IN OUR MINDS ARE QUESTIONS STILL REMAIN. ABOUT WHICH IS
[289:06] THE BETTER OPTION IN TERMS OF SAFETY. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I THINK IT'S VERY ANNOYING AND FIVE HUNDRED BUT SAYING THAT I ALSO HEAR YOU AND I HEAR BUT CU SAYS. AND LIKE BOB JUST SAID THOSE WE ARE DOWN TO THREE PARTY AND I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE GO FOR.WE WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION TONIGHT AND SO THAT STAFF KNOWS ONE OF THE OPTIONS I THINK WE COULD STILL CAN.WE WILL STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SEE YOU IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY SO WHAT.P WHAT CAN BE DEVELOPED.WHAT CAN'T BE DEVELOPED.THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE OF DISCUSSION FOR FOR ME NOT TO TURN EVERY STONE AT THIS POINT IN THE END OF DISCUSSION IS NOT.WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE STONES AND I THINK WE SHOULD GET THAT THEN THE STAFF HAS SAID IN THREE MONTHS WHICH I DON'T SEE IS A DELAY SINCE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.I WAS ON THE SOUTH
[290:04] BOULDER CREEK STUDY BACK AND I THINK MOSTLY TO NINETY SIX. THANK YOU AND SAY HAHA ANYWAY SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME IN I THINK FOR ME I JUST WENT TO SEE IF SOMETHING COMES OUT OF THIS. OPTION IS UPSTREAM STORAGE OPTION IF NOT THEN WE CONTINUE TO MOVE DOWN THE STREAM SO TO SPEAK AND ICC YOU BEING ABLE TO BUILD HOUSING AND DO A LOT OF IT.I THINK ACTUALLY ASSAM SAID YOU KNOW IF YOU HAD EVEN JUST NINE NINETY THREE ACRES. YOU COULD ADD TWENTY UNITS PER ACRE YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO MORE.I GUESS I WOULD ALSO AND I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT BUT I'D BE OPEN TO OTHER PLACES TO IT SO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL
[291:00] HASSLE WE HAD STUDENTS APPEAR TODAY.GRADUATE STUDENTS I USED TO BE ONE OF THOSE. AND IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND HOUSING SO I GET THE WHOLE THING AND FINDING HOUSING IN. AND VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF HELPING CU FIND HOUSING IN BOULDER WORD STUDENTS AND THIS IS ONE OF THE SITE THAT I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT FOR ME.THE VARIANT TO IS NOT THE RIGHT RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO AND BUT THAT'S NOT ME SAYING I DON'T WANT ANY BUILDING WHEN THIS WHOLE THING STARTED. WITH THE COMP PLAN TO RAISE SEVENTY EIGHT ACRES OF DEVELOPED A BOWL AND AT THE THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY ACRES.WHETHER IT'S SEVENTY EIGHT NINETY FIVE HUNDRED SOMETHING YOU KNOW SOMETHING IN THE BALLPARK.I DON'T CARE WE'RE STILL TALKING AND IT'S A PLUS OR MINUS KIND OF THING. SO I
[292:05] GUESS I AM JUST SAYING SURE I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR THE BURIAL AND FIVE HUNDRED. AND I DO NOT WANT. THIS TO BE THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION WE SEE YOU BECAUSE OF THE CANOPY AND MOVE. ON TO DIFFICULT TIMES AND WITH TIME THROUGH GREAT TIMES AND I THINK RING A GOOD PLACE RIGHT NOW BUT FOR ME TO NOT CONSIDER. VARIANT ONE FIVE HUNDRED AND TWO NOT CONSIDER UPSTREAM WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED. AND I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH MARY IN TERMS OF THIS IN MY EIGHTEEN AND HALF PLUS YEARS TO UPRIGHT BE THE BIGGEST DECISION ON FOR ME. IN TERMS OF WHO'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED AND MARY AND I HAVE MORE QUESTION ARE HAPPY TO OTHERWISE ALL UP YOU COULD WOULD YOU RATHER QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE.I WANNA THANK YOU AS WELL TONIGHT AND I DO INVITE YOU TO UM YOU KNOW KEEP KEEP WORKING WITH US.
[293:03] EIGHT DATE I DON'T WANT IN ANY WAY DISCOURAGE THAT AND HOW THE CONVERSATION STOPPED.I THINK WE'RE HOME. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE UNIVERSITY HAS IMPROVED AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER MY TEN YEARS OF INVOLVEMENT.I'VE SEEN BUT AN IMPROVEMENT SO. I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE IT AND WORK TOGETHER. AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY IN THE UNIVERSE A LOT OF MYRIAD RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE EXIST AND WORK WITH EACH OTHER ON. AND YOU KNOW OUR CONCERN IS THERE ARE VIABLE OPTIONS AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT. AS IT WAS RAISED EARLIER I THINK A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE RESOURCES DOESN'T GO INTO LOOKING IN THIS. AND THEN YOU SOLIDLY DECIDED THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND SO NOW WE'RE IN THE POSITION OF BEING THE BAD GUY IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT WE PREFER TO DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP CONVERSATION RATHER THAN BEING PUT IN A CORNER. AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE WOULD BOMB
[294:00] THE MAIN PARTNER SO MOM AND I HOPE THAT WE DO.SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.OR ARE YOU READY FOR ME TO SAY I WANTED THIS.I DON'T GUIDE YOU.SO JOE YOU BRING UP A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT THE ADAPTABILITY FOR CLIMATE CHANGE BUT THAT RAISES A QUESTION FOR ME FOR STAFF IN THAT WHEN I LOOK AT OPTION.TOM BERRY AND ONE WITHOUT THE LEVY AND FINED FIVE HUNDRED YEARS. IT LOOKS LIKE ME WHEN COMPARED TO VERY INTO THAT NOBODY COMES KIND OF WITH ADAPTATION IN MIND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I'M MISSING OR. WHAT WHAT WERE
[295:01] THE PARAMETERS USED TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION SHOW THAT THE REASON WE HAVE MADE THE STATEMENT THAT VARIANT TWO IS MORE ADAPTABLE ARE ARE SEVERAL REASONS ONE IS THAT THAT OUTLET.THAT OUTLET TUNNEL WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED IN FUTURE. THE EXCAVATION POTENTIALLY WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED AND THE ASSOCIATED CUT OFF ALL WITH AT THE FRONT WALL IS THE SAME FOR BOTH OF THEM. HOWEVER THE ERA OF INTUITION THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE. IF IF THIS WAS MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE TO SOMETHING GREATER THAN FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AND SAY CLIMATE CHANGE IS GREATER THAN WE THINK IN QUICKER THAN WE THANK. THE OVEN AND OCEAN WOULD BE GREATER.AND THERE'S
[296:07] THE POTENTIAL THAT AT THAT TIME CU HAS ALREADY BUILT HABITABLE STRUCTURES IN THAT AREA. SO THOSE STRUCTURES WOULD NEED TO BE MOVED OR MODIFIED WAS VERY INTO MAKING FLIP SARI INTO DOESN'T HAVE. YOU HAVE TO MODIFY POTENTIALLY THE FIRST SECTION WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY FLOUR WOULD NEED TO BE MODIFIED JUST LIKE EVERYONE. BUT FATHER RUSS THAT THE PROPOSED DAM WOULD NEED TO BE LARGER AND POTENTIALLY LONGER AND THE INTONATION WOULD INCREASE ON. OR SO AND THE RCMP LAND BUT NOT IN AREAS THAT HAVE CHEMICAL STRUCTURE SO THAT THAT WAS OUR LOGIC IN SAYING THAT VARIANT TO REPEAT EASIER TO ADAPT IN THE FUTURE.THANK YOU
[297:04] FOR THAT MOM AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION AS WELL FOR YOU WILL DEPEND ON WITH WHATEVER VARIANT. WE WOULD PICK HIM A CAN OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN GO ON ONE PASS AND THEN YOU ON ANOTHER PASS IS THE WHATEVER VARIANT WHICH IS LOOKING AT AN UPSTREAM DESIGN AND THEN FOR THAT.FOR THAT PARTICULAR OTHER PARALLEL PATHS THAT WE BE LOOKING AT. THEN WE WOULD ESTABLISH THOSE ADDITIONAL PARAMETERS CRITERIA THAT YOU SORT OF OUTLINED IN THE MEMO.MY UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION IS COULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH CLEVER E ZINE SAY AND VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED BUT BAND PLAYING THE CONCEPT OF SOME UPSTREAM. STORAGE TO THE SAME LEVEL AS THESE IS THAT THE QUESTION THAT WOULD BE ONE APPROACH.I'M JUST I'M
[298:09] JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THE WAY THAT WE CAN MOVE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN FOR WORD AND THEN WHAT WAS STILL EVALUATING. THE UPSTREAM DESIGN AND SO THAT IF IT WERE DETERMINED. THAT THE UPSTREAM DESIGN WASN'T IN THE WORK WE WOULD STILL BE ON A PATH WITHOUT EVER. USING ANY TIME FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE THAT I WOULD MAKE IS THAT HE WOULD BE ONE OR THE OTHER FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. YOU CONVERTED TO DIRECT THE PROJECT TEAM TO MOVE FORWARD IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN WITH A CONCEPT THAT INCLUDED LOOKING AT WAYS TO OPTIMIZE THAT AND THAT COULD BE INCLUDING UPSTREAM START. BUT MY RECOMMENDATION FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE IS THAT HE IF YOU'RE REQUESTING
[299:00] US TO LOOK AT ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD BRING IT UP TO. THE SAME LAB ALL WE HAVE FOR THE OTHER ONES. BECAUSE WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO PROGRAMMING TO DESIGN A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF ENGINEERING AND COST AND NEED FOR COORDINATION WITH STATE ENGINEERS OFFICE AND REGULATORY AGENCIES.SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE. IF YOU ARE ASKING YOU IF YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS. DIRECTING A PROJECT TEAM TO LOOK AT AN ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVE THAT WE BRING THAT UP TO SPEED WITH THESE OTHER ONES BEFORE PRIMARIES AND THEN SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BACK IS THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING TWO PARALLEL PATHS TO THEN SAY OK IN A DID OK WE WANT BARRY WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR.
[300:09] BUT WE ALSO WANT YOU TO AS NOW THE MOVE INTO THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WE WANT TO ALSO ADD SAY FOR EXAMPLE AHMA THAT TO LOOK AT DESIGN. PARAMETER THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE SEA CAN WALK. SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER APPROACH IS THAT WE WOULD NEED CLEAR DIRECTION FROM YOU IF WE MOVED INTO PRAISE AND WITH ONE ALTERNATIVE WHAT ADDITIONAL OBJECTIVES YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DESIGN FOR. THERE'S A RISK IN THAT HOWEVER IN THAT WE WOULD MOVE THAT FORWARD AND WE COULDN'T MEET US AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GET DIRECTION FROM YOU ON. THE OBJECTIVES HAVE CHANGED BATTERIES WE WOULD TAKE THAT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE BECAUSE IT MAY NOT. BE NEW WHAT DO YOU
[301:05] ENVISION AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF YOU DON'T. CHOOSE ONE OF THE THREE KINDS OF VARIATIONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED TO THE LEVEL THAT WE HAVE THAT WE WOULD BRING AN ADDITIONAL ONE UP TO THAT SAME LEVEL.OK AIR AND OFF TO JUST BACK TO PREVIOUS POINT ON DELAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR.I JUST I DO THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE AT A MINIMUM A SIGNIFICANT DELAY AND POSSIBLY VERY LARGE ONE AND THAT'S BECAUSE IF WE WERE TO. PROCEED WITH SOME COMMENTARY DESIGNED WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT FROM CU THAT WE MIGHT GO QUITE A LONG WAY DOWN THE PATH AND TURNED OUT TO BE COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE TO THEM. AND WE WOULD LOSE THAT TIME AND WE WOULD LOSE THAT MONEY.ALTERNATIVELY IF WE WAITED TO MOVE TO PRIMARY TO SIGN UNTIL WE. TRIED TO STRIKE AN AGREEMENT WITH UNIVERSITY THAT ALSO MIGHT TAKE QUITE A BIT OF TIME SO.
[302:02] AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THEM RIGHT NOW SO JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN THERE AND JUST AS I DO FEEL LIKE. IT'S HUGE SAID HEY IF THE SIX VARIANTS THE ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THEM ARE ACCEPTABLE TO US.PLEASE CHOOSE ONE OF THOSE I THINK. CHOOSING ONE OF THE TWO THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THEM DOES NOT FOLLOW THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT WE ALL AGREE TO FOR CFL SEE YOUSELF. LAST YEAR WITH A COMPLEX PROCESS WITH THE COUNTING SOME QUESTION THE EXPERTS.I THINK ANYTHING OF HERS MAJORS HAVE HEARD WHAT PEOPLE SOME PEOPLE ARE OPPOSED TO THE VARIANT TO FIVE HUNDRED IS SOME SKEPTICISM ABOUT WHETHER THE FLOW RESTRICTION HOME. CAUSE PROBLEMS ARE NOT EXPERTS HAVE SAID IT WON'T BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE SKEPTICAL THAT. I THINK I HEARD SOME ALONG THE LINES THAT YOU ALSO INDICATED THAT THE FLOW RESTRICTIONS NOT THE ONLY OPTION IN OTHER WORDS IT WAS.
[303:05] MENTIONED ABOUT HORROR OR SOME OTHER WAYS TO SLOW DOWN THAT FLOW THAT WOULD INVOLVE. POETRY CRITIC OVER UNDER THIRTY THIRTY SIX COULD USE PICKLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IS THE SYRUP OPTION OR IS THAT. SOMETHING IS ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE PRIMARY OBJECTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO THE FLORIST TO OPTION TWO IS THE FULL RESTRICTION CAN YOU TELL US THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO PRESCRIPTION THERE ISN'T.THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO FORWARD THAT WE HAVE SHOWN SO FAR ON THE NEXT ONE THAT WE CONSIDERED ACTUALLY WHEN WE WERE WERE INITIALLY GOING TO SHOW TOO.WE ONLY CHOSE ONLY TO SHOW ONE JUST TO SIMPLIFY AND JUST TO CONVEY WHAT THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE FULL RESEARCHER MIGHT LOOK LIKE. THE OTHER ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW IT IS INSTEAD OF THE WALL WITH A LITTLE HOLE AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A WALL ACTUALLY. A SERIES OF
[304:01] BAFFLES ARE STAGGERED UPSTREAM OF THE BRIDGE BUT STILL WITHIN C DOT RIGHT AWAY AND THE WAY THOSE WOULD WORK. IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE BUT. BASICALLY WATER WOULD FLOW IN THE CREEK AND HIT THESE WALLS THAT WERE STAGGERED. AND AND WE WOULD MODEL A HYDRAULIC LEAK SO THAT THERE WOULD BE OPENINGS IN THE WATER WOULD KEEP COLLIDING IN THE WATER. THE WALLS IT BACK TO HOME WOULD BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM ANY ORIFICE OF AGE THIS IS WHAT THIS IS IT'S BLOCKING BAFFLE IS WHAT WE CALL IT.SO YEAH THERE'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OPTION WITH THE CONCERN ON THE FLOOR RESTRICTION SEEMS TO BE AROUND DEBRIS BACK UP RIGHT. THUS POTENTIAL NEGATIVE THANK YOU FOR SOMEONE TO JUST DISMISS THAT BUT MAYBE SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE NOT. COMFORTABLE TO WHAT IT WAS
[305:00] SOME IF YOU WERE IF YOU HAD PROPOSED TO US TO BAFFLE WILL BE SOME OF THE SO THE ANSWER IS THAT IT'S IT'S YOU KNOW. THE FULL RESTRICT ARE YOU ALMOST WOULDN'T SEE IT BE BECAUSE YOU KNOW BEFORE. SHAUNA TO BECOME PART OF THE BRIDGE.IT ALMOST CLEANS UP THE LOOK OF THE BRIDGE FROM THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE WE DID HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE FULL RESTRICT OR. MAKING THE AREA UNDER THE BRIDGE KIND OF SCARY PLACE BECAUSE OF THE DARK AND THE THING. THE OTHER IS SOH SAID IT WAS ONE THING AND WE WERE WORKING WITH PLASTIC ORCHID LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THESE WALLS TO MAKE IT LOOK NATURAL.ANOTHER CHALLENGE THAT WE HAD WITH THE BLOCKING BAFFLE AND CEDRIC AND LOOK AT THIS VERY QUICKLY BUT WAS INTEGRATING THE EXISTING PATH THAT PARALLELS SOUTH BOULDER CREEK. FROM EXACTLY HOW WE'D WORK THAT THROUGH THIS SERIES OF BAFFLES WE HADN'T FIGURED THAT OUT. BUT DEBRIS OF A FEW
[306:06] SUCH AS THE PRINCIPAL CONCERN ABOUT THE FULL RESEARCHERS HIS RESTRICTION AS IS THE POTENTIAL FOR DEBRIS. BACK UP TO YOU TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FALSE. SO WHAT I'M PROCESSING ON IS HOW AND DEBRIS INTERACTION SO OBVIOUSLY DEBRIS TO GET TRAPPED IN THESE BATTLES BUT THAT THE WHOLE IDEA WITH THE BAFFLES THE BLACKTOP BACK UP THE WATER.I THINK THEY WOULD BE. SOME KIND OF SELF CLEANING WHERE THE WATER WOULD PUSH THE DEBRIS OUT OF THEM BUT I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT LITTLE BUT I REALLY HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE BATTLES IN COMBINATION WITH DEBRIS.I'M A BAKER COULD IT BE DONE SUCH A WAY THAT STATE TO PULL THE WATER WOULD GO. OVER INTO THE NEXT DAY ACTUALLY THE WATERS CAN FLOW OVER THEM ANYWAY YOU KNOW THERE'S ALL THE WATERS IN FLORIDA.YES SO IT DOES A LOT
[307:02] OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH DEBRIS. LIKE WE SAID WE CAN PUT THREE CATCHERS IN THE STREAM AND SS EXIST OR TO STRATEGICALLY PLACING LARGE BOULDERS. CAN GO A LONG WAYS TOWARD SNAGGING A TREE TRYING TO SNAG A TREE THAT YOU KNOW NOT TERRIBLY UNIQUE.SO THAT'S WHY WE CONSIDER YOU TO BREED US IS SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME.YES THAT THEY ARE YOURS TO HAVE RESIDUAL RISK OUT THERE THAT YOU COULD GET THIS ROGUE TREE BUT. YOU KNOW I THINK TO THINK THAT THAT RISK IS UNIQUE TO ALTERNATIVE IN THE OTHER I CAN'T GET THERE.SO THIS SAME SOURCE AND SAM. SIR BOB MOSER INTERESTING IDEAS BUT ISN'T THIS OPEN SPACE AND MOUNTAIN
[308:00] PARKS AND SO RIGHT HE SAID ARE REASONS TO DIE RIGHT AWAY. BUT IF I LOOK AT WHERE THINGS WERE BACK UP NOW AT THE FLOW RESTRICTION IT'S RIGHT AT THIS HIGH QUALITY HABITAT AND SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH. BOLDER MOVING AND STUFF ARE GOING TO WANT TO DO RIGHT THERE AND THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE CONCERNS HERE ANYWAY.IS THIS OPTION TAKES UP AN ADDITIONAL TEN ACRES. OF LAND FOR DETENTION AND SEDIMENT CATCHING ALL THIS WHICH IS CONSIDERED SOME OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY HABITAT WE HAVE SO THAT'S ONE OF THE TRADES WERE MAKING YEAR. AND SOME OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY HABITAT IN THE STATE. I WAS TOLD JUST YESTERDAY MORNING THAT IN TERMS OF THE TALL GRASS PRAIRIE.IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER AND THAT THAT WE GOT IN THE AREA UPSTREAM THERE.AND REGARDING CUI WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD BE FLEXIBLE WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME I WAS THE SWING VOTE ON THE CU RESEARCH PARK. AND AT THAT
[309:07] POINT THEY HAD A VERY DIFFERENT IDEA OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON AND PARTIAL LARGE PARCEL OF LAND IN WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE TODAY. AND I THINK SAM MADE A VERY GOOD. POINT OF HOW THE LAND COULD BE USED ALTERNATELY. ON THIS EVE SOUTH PARCEL AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD KEEP TALKING WE'LL SEE YOU. THEY WOULD MAINTAIN AN OPEN MIND AND WE WOULD AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO WITH BARRY AND WON THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD.AARON AND JILL AND AARON JUST HAFTA JUMP AND WE'RE SITTING UP HER SAYING WITH REGARD TO SEO I HOPE THAT THEY'LL BE FLEXIBLE.
[310:08] YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MAGNANIMOUS YOU'VE BEEN SO FLEXIBLE I CAN EVEN BELIEVE IT.CU IS THE ENGINE OF OUR ECONOMY THERE ARE WONDERFUL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND HAVE GIVEN US THIS ROOM BUT WE MOVED THIS IS NOT. ALONE AND NOT ONLY OF A GIVEN IT TO US THEY'VE AGREED NOT TO BUILD IN THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN. OF DEDICATED AGREED TO DEDICATE PORTIONS TO OPEN SPACE THEY HAVE BEEN SO GENEROUS THROUGH THIS PROCESS I. GOT YOU CAN'T LEAVE HERE IN BOULDER FOR FIVE MINUTES WITHOUT HEARING SOMEONE COMPLAIN THAT CU DOESN'T BUILD ENOUGH HOUSING IN HERE THAT'S ALL THEY WANT TO DO.I THANK YOUSEE YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND I'M SORRY THAT WE'RE TREATING YOU LIKE THIS USING WE CALLED THEM. PART HAS COME TO SCHOOL. BUT I JUST I JUST THOUGHT I'D THROW IN. AN AMENDMENT TO MY INITIAL MOTION TO SAY THAT WE WOULD EXPLORE ALL WAYS OF IMPLEMENTING A FLOW RESTRICTIONS SUCH AS TO MINIMIZE DEBRIS BLOCKAGE AND WITHOUT ME WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.SOLDIERS WHEN A VOTE THIS I MEAN GOOD DISTANCE
[311:00] STAY OUT THE BLUE ONE SOURCE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN.I THINK WE SHOULD.I'M REALLY TORN ON THIS I AM BUT WHAT IS THE TECHNICAL ISSUES BECAUSE IT HAS ALSO BECOME POLITICAL. IT MATTERS WHAT WE DO THERE ARE TRADE OFFS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE AGONIZING ALMOND THERE'S LOTS OF UNKNOWNS AND WE ARE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND FOR FEAR A GOOD PURPOSE.AH MAN IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT WE GET RIGHT ON SELF.YES I'M VERY TORN AND DOM THAT THE THINGS WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TREE YOU KNOW THAT THE SPILLWAY VERSES OF THE CONSTRUCTION VERSUS TOM THAT SANIA OF SHOVELING. BUT MY VOTE DOESN'T MATTER AND THAT WILL BE ON THE VOTES ALREADY CAST SO ON.I GUESS THE DEAL IS DUE.WELL I GUESS IF THIS DOESN'T PASS TO MORGAN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THAN A LITTLE FURTHER RATE.OK ALL THOSE IN
[312:10] FAVOR OF AARON'S MOTION THREE PILLOWS A POST.OK SO EXCUSE ME I WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO MAKE THE NEXT MOTION WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.I THINK EVERY CITY YOU WILL BE VOTING TO ACTION BY A UNANIMOUS ON NOW.OK EVERYBODY
[313:03] BUT SAM SUGAR. AND I MEAN I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL COME UP RIGHT AWAY AND GET US TO BE TALKING WITH C OR IN DETAIL ABOUT WHAT COMES. NEXT YEAR IS ANNEXATION DISCUSSIONS ARE COMING RIGHT ALONG IN SEPTEMBER I BELIEVE AND SO ANGRY CAN USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS OUR DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. AND HOW WE COULD ADAPT TO VARIOUS LAWN TO ACCOMMODATE US AND SO I MEAN THIS HAS BEEN A CONCEPTUAL DESIGN TO DATE AND I THINK IT'S ONE THAT. IF STAFF IS ON IN FOCUS FROM US IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS WE CAN PROVIDE SOME FOCUS AT PERHAPS NOT CUTTING AND TOUR AS MUCH OF THE LAND.SO UM I GUESS I'M WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE. HAD DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE NEXT STEPS A
[314:00] PRELIMINARY DESIGN AND LAND OWNERSHIP MISSION FOR THE VARIANT WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR. FLOOD CONCEPT WITH TWO CAVEATS ONE THAT WE CONSIDER HOW TO MINIMIZE THE FLOOD DETENTION ON THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND TWO THAT ROSE TO SECOND ON. THAT WE LOOK AT UPSTREAM DETENTION OPTIONS AS PART OF HELPING TO DO THAT. SECOND THIS ANYMOREDO YOU NEED YOU PROBABLY NEED MORE GUIDANCE ON THAT. I THINK IF THAT MOTION PASSED WE PLAYED WANTS FOR YOU TO ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT GUIDANCE FOR LOOKING AT THAT UPSTREAM CONCEPT A LITTLE BIT MORE GUIDANCE. FOR CFS IS I THINK THAT CU HAS SAID THAT THEY WOULD ACCEPT VERY ONE ONE HUNDRED AND I GET WHY WE DON'T WANT ONE HUNDRED. K FOR
[315:00] ONE HUNDRED AND TWO SAID THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT A ONE FIVE HUNDRED.THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. DOES IT HAVE TO BE THE BINARY IS ER UM WHAT'S. HIS OTHER THREE HUNDRED YEAR OF FOG WHILE. ANOTHER WORD I THINK C IS OBJECTION HAS BEEN THAT UM THAT FIVE HUNDRED TAKES WAY TOO MUCH WAS THE LAST ONE HUNDRED DOESN'T. HIS OR SOMETHING THAT GETS US MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED YEAR PROTECTION BUT DOESN'T TAKE AS MUCH LAND AS FIVE HUNDRED YEAR. IT IS OR SLIDING SCALE HERE WERE WEAK AND WE CAN DO IS CUT BY NEARLY ONE HUNDRED FIVE HUNDRED S IT. NOW IT'S AN ABSOLUTELY COULD BE A SLIDING SCALE AS YOU SAW WITH THE UPSTREAM STORAGE BOOK ANSWER COULD BE ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. WE WOULD JUST NEED DIRECTION AS TO WHAT OBJECTIONS WERE TRYING TO MEET AND WE COULD COME BACK TO YOU WITH OUR ESTIMATE OF THE LEVEL OF PROTECTION AND THAT THAT WOULD PROVIDE.I
[316:04] JUST HOPE ONE SHOULD QUESTION WHAT MY OBJECTIVE WOULD BE STEVE'S CONSENT AND SO YOU KNOW IF I STILL STRUGGLE WITH HOW MUCH LAND SO YOU WALK SO RARELY IS. MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED AND TEN IN AND WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND WHETHER THERE'S. A NUMBER OF ACRES BETWEEN THE ONE HUNDRED AND FIVE HUNDRED THAT IS THE BREAK POINT. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS AND SO THAT THE NEW GUYS GET BACK INTO COLLEGE PROTECTION IS TO PROVIDE CRIED IF THEY SAID I MAKE UP NUMBERS.THIS GIVES THEM NINETY ACRES IN THE SKIN HUNDRED YEARS GIVES MODERN TWENTY AND NUMBER NINETEEN HUNDRED AND TWENTY ACRES AVAILABLE AND MAY GIVE YOU A NUMBER YOU GUYS COULD DESIGN AROUND THAT.ABSOLUTELY BUT WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW FROM CU AND I CAN SPEAK FOR THEM WHAT THAT NUMBER WITH THE ACREAGE THIS YEAR.I APPRECIATE ABOUT THAT YOU TRYING TO FIND A HAPPY CAMPER MY SPIRIT AND I'M SURE YOU CAN FIND BUT I THINK IN LIGHT OF A JUST. BUNCH OF PAPERS SUFFERS RECENTLY READ ON FLOODING IN
[317:00] AND WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE.I DON'T WANT TO LOWER THAT STANDARD.I'M FROM FIVE HUNDRED NIGHT THINK HONESTLY WITH THIS VOTE THAT WE SHOULD START LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR CREEKS AND DRAINAGE IS THAT FIVE HUNDRED YEARS EVENTUALLY.AND UM AND I THINK UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE STILL BUILDING IN FLOOD PLAINS AND WE SHOULDN'T BE HIM. AND SAID TO START WITH YOU KNOW THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS. IN OH AND HE PUT THE TWO THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY BUILD AROUND AND THE THIRD THING WHICH IS THE PREFERRED OPTION IS NOT TO BUILD AND THE FLOOD PLAIN SO. I WOULD NOT WANT TO LOWER THAT I AM COMMITTED AS THEY SAID TO FRANCE'S.I AM
[318:05] COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH CU TO TO LOOK AT WHAT THE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS ARE AND WHAT THE CONFIGURATIONS OF THOSE STARK SAYS THAT THEY CAN GET. WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR GOAL IS. SO SO ANYWAY I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT MOVING THAT NUMBER JUST SO THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN HAPPEN SINCE WE ARE ALREADY OVER DEVELOPED IN FLOOD PLAINS ANYWAY. I DON'T WANT TO BACK OFF THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR EITHER. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND REFINED THAT IT'S NOT VERY EXPENSIVE BUT I AGREE WITH YOUR FLEXIBILITY BOB AND SEVERAL WAYS. I THINK THE STAFF CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR OTHER STRUCTURES THAT WOULD HELP WITH DIRECTING IT DOWN OVER INTO THE BATH TUB.I'M JUST BORROWING HERE OR WE CAN CHANGE SOME OF THE O S SO THAT WE ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED. NOW BECAUSE THE ONLY THING WE KNEW WAS WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT LATER LIKELY. SO I THINK THERE ARE
[319:00] WAYS WE CAN WORK WITH CU TO MAKE SURE THIS IS A WIN WIN SITUATION ALL AROUND. AND STARTING THOSE CONVERSATIONS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER BECAUSE AS YOU POINT OUT BOB IT'S THIRTY SIX ACRES IS THE DELTA RIGHT NOW AND SO WHAT'S THE MAGIC NUMBER.I DON'T THINK WE KNOW UNTIL WE TALKED ABOUT BUT I THINK WE'VE MADE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.OK SO WE NEED TO VOTE IN HUGE COMMOTION WAS VERY ONE FIVE HUNDRED PRINTER STAND. DID YOU ALSO WANT STAFF TO IN PARALLEL OR. AS WE PROCEED AND TO DO THE UPSTREAM SOME EVALUATION NOT PROCEED IN COMMON IN PARALLEL. BUT I SINK OR GOING TO NEED TO TALK TO HIM A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AFTER WE TAKE A WRITE IN A NIGHT. TO DO THAT TONIGHT HE WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A SERIES OF
[320:00] QUESTIONS FOR OKAY OKAY OKAY. THANK YOU SO THOSE ARE THE TWO ARE TWO THINGS WERE UPSTREAM AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT SO YOU. ARE THERE TO PLAY RESULTS IN MISSOURI AND ONE UPPED HER INTO RATHER ARE THE LATRINES THE SAME. THAT'S FOR STAFF TO HELP US COME ACROSS MANILA VOTED NO BECAUSE THE EVENT OF EXTREME VARIANT TO THE DISTINCTION IS TCU HASN'T SAID THAT HE DID.I DON'T KNOW YET BUT THEY DON'T HATE IT. AND SO I WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION OF THE UPSTREAM HUMBLE THAT WERE PUTTING ON HIS ULTRA VARIANT TO BECAUSE I CAN SEE ON THE MAP. IS THE CARTOON HOW MUCH LAND THEY SEEM TO BE GETTING ON THE UPSTREAM AREA TOO. AND SO I BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT I REALIZE THAT CAUSES A DELAY POTENTIALLY CAUSE A DELAY. BUT JULES POINT IT MAY BE LESS OF A DELAY THAN. STUDYING FOR A ONE AND PUTTING OUT A YEAR FROM NOW THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTED THE JOB FROM AREA TWO IS WILL NOTE A FEW WEEKS. NOT TO LABOUR
[321:02] THE POINT BUT ANNEXATION DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING TO BE STARTING AND SO I THINK WILL BE ABLE TO. WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES EARLIER THAN A YEAR FROM NOW I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET INTO. DETAILED DESIGN ON THIS AND THEN RUN INTO A BALL I THINK WE'RE GOING TO. PROBABLY HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT AND WHAT WE HAVE TO GET THERE SO I'M PROPOSING BARRETT WON FIVE HUNDRED YEAR. LOOKING AT ME GIVING SECURE BETTER OUTCOME.AS FOR MY MOTION AND LOOKING AT UPSTREAM DETENTION TO SEE IF THAT HELPS WITH. US FOR OPTION ONE OPTION FOR TUTORING NEUTRAL PAIR WON. FIVE HUNDRED YEAR AGO AND THEN THE UPSTREAM IS BROWN ONE. URBAN DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT ONE UPSTREAM WILL LET THE STAFF ARE THE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF LACE I I KNEW. IT WOULDN'T
[322:08] WEATHER IT'S VERY MOTIVATING TO ZIP OVER THE BIRDS PLACED RIGHT WHETHER IT'S IN THE NORTHERN SECTION OR WHETHER IT'S COME TO THE VINEYARD THAT WITH ONE. OF THE FLOOD WALLS THE SAME IN EITHER ALL RIGHT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE WHERE THE DAM FOR LIKE A BETTER WORD IS IN THE NORTHWESTERN SECTION.THANKS TO USTHIS PICTURE IS WHETHER IT IS AND THAT'S WHY. IT'S SO WEIRD THE HABIT OF WORKING MICROPHONE OUT. AND THE WEIGHT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THUS FAR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS PRESENTED ORIGINALLY BY THE COMMUNITY AND THEN ARE THE ADAPTATIONS THAT. THESE BOOKENDS ARE UPSTREAM WITH VARIANT TOO SO YOU SEE THAT RIGHT NOW THE STAND AND THAT'S CLOSEST TO US THIRTY SIX. IS SIMILAR TO THE THAT'S
[323:02] AN VARIANT TOO SO IT'S REALLY CAPTURING THAT WATER BEFORE IT FLOWS OVER AND DOWN IN SAID SEE YOU IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.IF EU WHAT I WAS HEARING AND IT'S A CONFIRMATION AND FROM COUNCILMEMBER WEAVER. IS THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO IS TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT CONCEPT THAN WHAT IS SHOWN HERE. IN WHICH WE WOULD HAVE THE UPSTREAM PART AGAIN IN THAT SOUTHERN PART OF CU SOUTH. WOULD STORE WATER BUT THAT AND THAT AROUND THE NORTHWEST CORNER WITH LOOK MORE LIKE A FAIRY AND ONE WHICH I'M TRYING TO PULL UP QUICKLY AND THAT'S A GOOD DESCRIPTION.I'M LOOKING AT THE BATH TUB HERE BOB IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR CONCEPT VERY ON. THE TEO OF THE FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD DETENTION GOES OVER INTO THE OH SO SPACE AND SO. I WOULD BE CURIOUS OF STAFF CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO
[324:00] PRESERVE MORE OF A LAND. FOR FORCE YOU TO DEVELOP AND HAVE MORE FLOOD DETENTION BE IN WHAT WAS COLLOQUIAL CALLED THE BAT THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN OR NOT BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING FOR UPSTREAM DETENTION.THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO DELAY THE WORK ON VARIANT ON ITS TO EXPLORE WHAT ELSE WOULD BE POSSIBLE. THERE'S UPSTREAM VERY TRIGGERING ONE OF HER INTERVIEW OF SUGAR AND ONE SURE TO CLICK JUST TO SPEAK BRIEFLY TO THE MOTION.I VERY MUCH WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FLOOD MITIGATION BUT THIS. APPROACH SEEMS UNLIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL TO ME AND I DO THINK IT IS NOT IT CONFORMS WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES. THAT WE AGREE TO LAST OR SO WILL BE GOOD AGAINST THIS MOTION TO THE EXTENT THAT ANYONE CARES I COULD ACTUALLY BEHIND THIS EFFECTIVE THE UPSTREAM WASN'T THERE AND TWO.SO YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW ME GET STAFF TO SHOW ME WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE END
[325:00] TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS ANOTHER SHOWING. EVERYONE WAS JUST MADE UP TONIGHT SO THAT WE HAVE A MAP FOR THE UPSTREAM ARE INTO IS WHAT THEY SHOW THAT THIS THIS. ONE ON THE RIGHT HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING FOR VERY ANNOYING OBSESSION EXCEPT THAT'S NOT EVEN ON THE TABLE. WITH US THIS MORNING AND SEWED THESE ARE BOTH CONCEPTS FOR MIRIAM TO. AND WHAT I WOULD HOPE IS THAT WE LET STAFF. AND CONSULTANTS LOOK AT THIS AND WITH THEIR ENGINEERING SKILLS AND COME BACK AND TELL AS HE HAS SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OR NO NOTHING CAN HAPPEN TO. SOME BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL. CHALLENGES I SEE HERE PER MEETING WAS ONE THAT WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT. PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON THE SCENE OF THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE HABITAT SO I WAS IN REFERENCE TO NEITHER ONE OF THESE IN
[326:00] THE MOTION BECAUSE I FOUND BOTH OF THOSE CHALLENGES TO BE PROBABLY SHOW STOPPERS. WRITE TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED FOOT LONG WALL AND ONE OF THEM YOU'VE GOT THIS INFLOW RUNDOWN WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BULLS JUMPING MOUSE HABITAT.I JUST DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE WAS MUCH HERE THAT WE COULD WORK WITH WILL AND ALSO IN THE LEFT HERE AND IT STILL HAS HIS FLOW RESTRICTION ISSUE SO. THE MOTHER AND THAT'S A PROBLEM SO I WOULD WANT THEM TO COME BACK WITHOUT A FLOW RESTRICTION ISSUE OF THE TOP OF THE RIGHT ONE BUT THEY. WILL ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ALL THOSE OPPOSED IT.ASK HIS
[327:01] QUESTION AND DOMINICA BACKS HE. SAID OF RED GREEN CHARD. REALLY JUST AS A WAY THESE ARE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL OBJECTIVES THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THE COMMENT PROCESS AND REPORTS AND IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND SO. AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FERIA ONE FIVE HUNDRED WITH SOME POTENTIAL IN UPSTREAM OPTION ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD WAS THAT ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES FOR DOING NINE. IS TO LIMIT ENCROACHMENT ON SU SOUTH HUB LAND USE LAND USE CORRECTS AND QUESTION ON THAT IS IS ARE WE TRYING TO. WITH THE UPSTREAM CONCEPT FULLY PRESERVE THE OR TO WHAT DEGREE I GUESS JUST REPRESENT MY OPINION I THINK IT'S A CONTINUUM FOR WHATEVER WORKS ON THE TOPOGRAPHY THERE AND WHATEVER YOU CAN TOO.I DON'T
[328:03] KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING THERE BUT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS THAT WE'VE HEARD. THERE'S A WAY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO IT SO BE IT. YOU KNOW IN THE MAGICAL WORLD IT WOULD GO OVER TO O S SO IN THE BATH TUB AND THAT'S WERE DETAINED BUT I THINK THERE'S FIVE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD.SO SEEING THEM I HEARING YOU CORRECTLY THAT DIRECTION WOULD BE TO. SHE WHAT WE COULD DO TO STORE IN THE UPSTREAM AREA OF THE NATURAL FLOW AND THEY'RE SO NOT WITH THE BERM OR THE RUNDOWN.OKAY THAT IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE AT THAT REALLY HELPS US NARROW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT US AGREE YES WHAT ELSE IS IT.HOW CRITICAL IS IT FOR US TO ELIMINATE THAT FLOW RESTRICTION.
[329:18] I GUESS THE VARIANT ONE DOES THAT SHOW IT'S LATE I'M SORRY I HAVE THE SCRATCH THAT. THE PAGE TO NINETY FOUR OF OUR PACKET. THERE'S SOME QUESTION SAID STAFF KIND OF PUT TOGETHER SOME BULLET POINTS ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU WANT. US TO DIRECT YOU TO DO AND YES I AND SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN AND ANOTHER QUESTION IS. THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE KNEW YOU WERE DIRECTING US TO LOOK AT A CONCEPT THAT TRIES TO ELIMINATE THE CROWN WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM. AND AGAIN
[330:06] THAT WOULD MEAN A CONCEPT THAT WHITTLED. WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DIRECT PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON VOICE AND HE LANDS. WHICH ARE OUR DISPOSAL A SLOBBERY KISS FOR ANOTHER THING SAY WAS INTERESTED IN IS WHAT KURT SHOWED AT THE VERY END WHERE IT'S JUST A THREE HUNDRED FOOT WALL. TO FLOOD WALL AND SO MOST OF THE WATER GOES HOME DETENTION. I DON'T KNOW ME YOU SHOWED IT AND I DON'T HAVE IT. SO THAT WILL REQUIRE DISPOSAL OF OPEN SPACE LANDS AND DIRECT PERMANENT IMPACTS ON THE HIGHLY SENSITIVE SPECIES AND THE LIST THAT WEEK. THAT ALL THE OPTIONS THEY NEED THE FLOOD LAW AND THE GROUNDWORK ADVANCE AND WAS IN A WAY AROUND IN LAST.
[331:12] WE DID PICK UP OPTIONS THAT I POINTED OUT THAT WOULD BE ON OPEN SPACE PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON OPEN SPACE LAND INITIALS IN THE AGE.SO THE SUN SHOWS IN A CARTOON FORM. IT'S THAT'S MATTER OR DARK BLUE SHADING AND THAT LACK A LINE IS THE GRAPHIC SHOWING THE THREE HUNDRED FOOT EITHER A FLOOD WALL OR BERM. THAT THEIR PARTICULAR IS VEREEN TO THE IDEA THAT
[332:00] COULD WORK WITH VARIABLE AND I KNOW YOU KNOW SO THIS HAS REALLY SHOULD BE IN FULL RUNDOWN IT STRAIGHT IN THE PARABLES SMILE AT ME.AND IT'S GOING THROUGH THE BULLETS AND IN THE MEMO THAT MOORE'S OUT AS MENTIONED WE DEFINE THE STORM HITS WE DEFINE THE STANDALONE WE JUST A LIMB.WE TALKED ABOUT THE GROUNDWATER.IT ELIMINATES THE FLOW RESTRICTION IT WORKS TO MINIMIZE POUNDING AND ITS MUMBAI CONCEPT.NOW THE OTHER THING IS THE ALLOW FOR OPEN SPACE ENHANCED AND I GUESS THAT WILL FALL OUT WITH. WHAT I GET CLARIFICATION FROM SAM THAT IF WE DON'T EAT WHATEVER WOULD NATURALLY FLOW INTO THAT AREA. INTO THE UPSTREAM STORAGE AREA THAT WOULD DEFINE HOW MUCH LAND WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR AN ENHANCEMENT OR ARE NOT ALLOW PERMANENT
[333:00] STRUCTURES WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE MORE IN THE NEXT PAGE SORRY BEAR WITH ME IN THE MINI MART ELIMINATE NEED FOR MAJOR EXCAVATION THAT WOULD BE THE LAST ONE. IN A CUP AND THEN.SO WHEN YOU WERE TO KNOW GOING OVER THE REASONING BEHIND THE ADAPTATION TO CLIMATE CHANGE WHEN IT SINGS YOU COULD YOU. CONCEIVABLY IS TO OVERSIZE THAT PIPE THAT GOES DOWN INTO BEAUTY AND KNOW. ME YOU COULD JUST DO IT FROM THE GET GO SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OF JUST US AND IF THE MODELS INDICATE THAT. WE
[334:00] THAT WOULD PUSH TOO MUCH FLOW THROUGH IN THE INNER ARM WITHOUT DOING WORK DOWNSTREAM WEAK OUTPUT OR STRICTER ON THE FRONT OF THAT THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.THANK YOU AND UM AND THEN SO WITH THAT GOAL.ALSO THE SEPARATION OF THE LEE CHANNEL AND DRY CREEK AND MAKE YOU ABSOLUTELY ARE. THIS WOULD REQUIRE US TO MOVE IN TO PRIMERS AND WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE. ABSOLUTELY ALL THAT MEANS HE LOOKED AT CAREFULLY AND THEN THE OTHER THING WOULD BE TO SIZE IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S BASICALLY SIZED FOR ADAPTATION HOME. SO I GUESS WE WOULD NEED DIRECTION AND WHAT ON WHAT ATWOOD ME THIS RATE IF THIS IS ALREADY FIVE HUNDRED YEARS YET WE. THINK ABOUT THAT OR OR WELL I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AS A COMMENT AND THEN HOME. MOM THE OTHER
[335:06] WILL QUESTION I HAD WAS REGARDS WITH REGARDS TO THE GROUNDWATER CAN BE AND SCANNED THE DESIGN CHANGE SUCH THAT. THE SIKH AND WHILE THAT'S GOING DOWN TO BEDROCK IS IS A SERIES OR HAS OPENINGS IN IT SO THAT YOU CAN BE DESIGNED THAT WAY.EVEN THOUGH WALL THE COUPLE NEEDS TO BE CONTINUOUS.THANK YOUOK YOU GET WHAT YOU NEED.YES I GUESS MY QUESTION IS DOES THAT NEED TO BE IN THE FORM OF EMOTION.UM NOOK AND ALSO JUST TO CLARIFY BECAUSE IT WAS AN IN YOUR MISSION BUT HE DISCUSSED IT EARLIER WE'RE ASSUMING THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT REMOVING THE SEALS EXISTING SEA LEVEL.IF YOU DISCUSS THAT BUT JUST GO HERE.BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT IS
[336:01] ASKING FOR CANNED ITEMS GOING TO SAY I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP OR SEPTEMBER TWENTY EIGHT MEETING WITH YOU. AGAIN WE BOMB THAT I THINK I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR ALL THOSE THAT WERE COMMITTED TO MOVING BOARD AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS WE CAN WITH THIS DIRECTION. AND SO IF YOU NEED MORE CHECK INS YOU NEED MORE SOMETHING FROM US TO LET US KNOW AND WE WILL COME IN. AND JUST BE SUPER CLEAR WHEN YOU SAY KEEP THE SEPTEMBER TWENTY AFTER MEETING AND THAT IS THE MEETING. BECAUSE WE CAN GET TWO OPTIONS FOR THAT ONE IS TO DISCUSS ANNEXATION PROCESS AND THE OTHER WAS. A CHECK AND TO SHOW YOU A DIAGRAM OF WHAT THIS NEW CONCEPT WITH LOOK LIKE WE DO BOTH AND WE CAN. RIDE TWO TO A WOMAN DIFFERED ON PEARL A TEXAN KNEW IT WE NEED IT MY RE ANNEXATION IN YOUR MIND NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN. THE ANNEX
[337:00] BEFORE WE CAN DO THE DAY EACH ROUND AN AIRY DESIGN AND THE ANNEXATION.IDEALLY WOULD RUN PARALLEL BECAUSE THEY WOULD INFORM EACH OTHER AS WE LEARN MORE AND THE INS THAT DETAILS. ITS LIKE WE SAID THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT THIS CONCEPT MAY CHANGE TO SOME DEGREE WHEN WE TALK TO THE AGENCY'S ECCENTRIC CETERA.WE HOPE THAT'S MINOR MAJOR THINGS COULD COME UP AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WEARER OF THAT BEFORE WE SIGN IN UKRAINE WITH YOU. AND LIKEWISE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH C. C S HAIR CARE LOL MY MOM IS GOING OK LET'S DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME IF WE CAN TAKE WE. NOW NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP DRIVING THIS FORD ON OUR END AS WELL SO. I'M PROBABLY WAY OUT OF LINE HERE AND GET IT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
[338:00] EACH AND EVERYONE YOU GUYS BECAUSE THIS IS IDENTITY THAT WAS VERY DIFFICULT DECISION. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING IN DETAIL ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AND REALLY APPRECIATED IT REALLY HELPED AND THANK YOU FOR. URBAN DRAINAGE COMING APPEARING FOR EVERYBODY STAYING WITH US STILL PESTERED TANKS TO SAY I KNOW THIS IS REALLY BRUTAL FOR THE TO. AND WHAT SHALL WE DO THIS IT'S GETTING BETTER AND BETTER GETTING CLOSER CLOSER WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS I KNOW IT'S TAKING AWHILE BUT I THINK WE'RE COMMITTED TO SEEING THIS THROUGH.WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAT WE CAN GET DONE THIS COUNCIL. ON AND HOPEFULLY RID OF ALL OF THIS PAIN WILL RESULT IN A MUCH BETTER PROJECT THAT IS THE GOAL AND SEE YOU'LL JUST KEEP WORKING AWAY WITH A CELL WITH AT NIU.WE GET ENOUGH ON THIS.OK THANK YOU ALL AND NOW
[339:06] WITH TWO OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REALLY REALLY QUICKLY FOR THOSE DOING THE EVALUATIONS SO THAT MEANS FARM.OK LET ME JUST GET THE SHOT PUT FRANK QUICKLY.OK SO IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES AND SAM AND I WILL PRESENT THE NEW GUYS OLDEST IS SET TO TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF DEGREE.OH AND IF WE DIDN'T THINK URBAN DRAINAGE ENOUGH FOR STICKING OUT WITH US THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU ALL COME OUT TO SIGN UP NOW.OK SO THOSE
[340:03] SAM WEAVER AND I ARE YOUR. COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE ON EXECUTIVE EVALUATIONS FOR EACH OVER CC EVALUATIONS TO THREE SIXTY EVALUATIONS FOR. OUR CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY AND MUNICIPAL JUDGE FOR THE EVALUATION PERIOD FROM JULY FIRST TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN TO JULY FIRST TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN BASED ON DAY THREE SIXTY. FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM STAFF OUTSIDE PEOPLE AND FULL COUNCIL THE COUNCIL HAS GIVEN. THE CITY MANAGER AND EXCEED STANDARD READING AND EVALUATION COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO TWO POINT FIVE PERFORMANCE INCREASE. THAT INCREASES THE MANAGER'S ANNUAL SALARY BY SIX TO THE FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX DOLLARS. FROM A TOTAL OF TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND TO SIXTY SEVEN TO TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN TWENTY FOUR.
[341:05] THE CITY COUNCIL HAS GIVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY AND EXCEED STANDARD READING IN THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE RECOMMEND TO TWO POINT FIVE PERFORMING TO INCREASE. THAT WOULD INCREASE THE ATTORNEYS ANNUAL SALARY BY FIFTY FOR ALMOST FIFTY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TEAM TO TWO HUNDRED AND ALMOST TWENTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS GIVEN THE MUNICIPAL JUDGE STRONGLY EXCEED STANDARD PERFORMANCE READING. AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS A FOUR PERCENT INCREASE THAT WOULD INCREASE THE JUDGES ANNUAL SALARY BY SIXTY FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS FROM ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY ONE THOUSANDTWO. HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN THOUSAND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ONE OTHER THING IS THAT IT TOOK ABOUT FORTY HOURS OF STAFF TIME TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL EMPLOYEE EVALUATION PROCESS. IN ADDITION TO THE EMPLOYEES OR EMPLOYERS COUNCIL.
[342:09] THE CONSULTANT WAS HIRED TO HIS SISTER'S CHURCH SEVENTY SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THIS JOB IS I WOULD SAY THIS WAS WELL MANY VERY WELL INVESTED IN WELL SPENT. AND I WILL SAY THAT AS THE COMMITTEE.WE DID THE TASK.OUR CONSULTANT WITH A COUPLE EXTRA TASKS. ERMAND LIKE LOOKING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR COMPARISONS FOR ALL OF OUR AND EMPLOYEES BUT I WANT TO SAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANOTHER WONDERFUL YEAR AND I'M. JUST REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND UM CITY RINGERS CITY IS VERY VERY HARD AND WE ALL KNOW THAT AND YOU KEEP A STABLE AND KEEP THIS MOVING AND ERM GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.SO
[343:02] THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO I'LL JUMP AND THIS IS MY FIRST YEAR DAN. AND I THOUGHT IT RAN VERY SMOOTHLY HEART CONSULTANT JAY BUTLER REALLY KEPT US ON TASK ON WHAT OUR WEEKLY PHONE CALLS AND KEYCHAIN THANK YOU TOM THANK YOU TO COOK. THEM YOU ARE ALL DOING A GREAT JOB YOU'RE MAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY EACH THAN THE AVERAGE SALARY FOR POULTER HAS A HIGH COST OF LIVING.SO IT'S ABOUT BETWEEN NINE AND THIRTEEN PERCENT IS TO ARRANGE THEIR ABOVE AVERAGE BUT WE THINK YOU'RE WORTH.SO THANKS A BUNCH FOR SERVICE.YES IT'S A PLEASURE ON A TWENTY TWO AND THE JUDGE. GIVING THE LEAD ARE ALL LEAVE IT AT ANYBODY WANT TO JUMP IN. JUST A TWEET ASK YOU WITH SO MANY COMPLICATED INITIATIVES AND THEY ALL KEEP MOVING FORWARD
[344:00] IN THIS TOWN'S MEN ARE A MENACE TO IT AND YOU PUT UP WITH US TOO.THANK YOU DOMINIC AGO THAT AND ALSO ADD THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESPONSIVENESS OF OUR REQUESTS THE OKAY TO NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS. SO UM I MOVED TO APPROVE THE TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN PERFORM TO THE TUITION SOME SALARY ADJUSTMENTS ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION PROCESS.CITY COUNCIL AWARD TO PAY AN INCREASE OF SIXTY FOUR HUNDRED AND AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID.AND THESE INCREASES ARE RETROACTIVE TILL JUNE EIGHTEEN TWO THOUSAND SECOND RATE ALL THOSE WHO HAVE AIRING FIRST.I MEAN OPEN IN YOU EVER HAVE NOTHING TO SAY SOME BY A BUS.
[345:19] THE DISEASE THEY WERE SPEAKING THE BOAT OK BECAUSE IN A HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IS UNANIMOUS VIEW. LAST I SAW SIMON'S REPORT AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS MEETINGS. AND UNITY TO THE POINT THE THING WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM I JUST WANTED TO THANK LISA AND SAM FOR THIS WORKING ON THIS. DAY PLEASE LEAD US TO TELL US WHAT WOULD EARN A POINT OFF WHATEVER.YES SO YOU ONCE YOU DO THE NOMINATIONS THEM ALL FOR THIS TO DETERMINE WHETHER
[346:00] WE VOTE FROM ALPHABETICAL TOWN OR THE OTHER WAY TO GET GRAHAM LIKE.I WAS PREPARED TO GO WITH THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THEY OFF THE TABLE AND ALL WERE GOING TO OPEN UP NOMINATIONS WILL MAKE FOR AN EMAIL THAT HE THINKS IT WAS CLEAR IN PROCESS.ME NEITHEROK BUT TO. WE HAVE ONE APPOINTMENT TO MAKE FOR THE AB.THE COMMITTEE IS RECOMMENDING HERE RECOMMENDING JUSTIN BRANDT CAN WE STILL DO NOMINATION THEM.YES SAYS OKAY SO THAT'S ONE NOMINATION.OTHER NOMINATIONSIF YOU WANT TO MAKE UP NOMINATE IF YOU WANT A NEW NOMINEE.
[347:05] OK SO IT TO BOMB ANYONE SPEAK TO THEM WHY YOU NOMINATED WILL BRIEFLY. HAD A REASON SO MER BY AND I ARE ON THE BOARD OR COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE AND MOVE. WE WHAT WE DID IN ORDER TO. IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT EASIER ON EVERYBODY ELSE WAS TO. GO THROUGH AND WATCH THE VIDEOS AND REREAD ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS AND BOMB MAKER MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT AND JUSTIN BRANDT WAS A AN APPLICANT AND TWENTY EIGHT IN. HAND WE FELT THAT HE WAS VERY ARTICULATE IN HIS RESPONSES AND VERY QUICK TO RESPOND HAND AND KNOWLEDGEABLE AND WE THINK ILL DO A GOOD TOUGH. THE SUSPECT CARE SHE JUST
[348:00] APPLIED LAST TWO AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT. SHE'S KIND OF BROAD SHE HAS A BS IN FINANCE AND IN GEOLOGY AND MSC IN CHEMISTRY. FROM COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES AND SO I THOUGHT THOSE WOULD BE USEFUL AND CONTRIBUTORS OF WHAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW ON TO PORT. KNOCKING SPEAK AGAINST ANYBODY BUT I FELT LIKE SHE BROUGHT SOMETHING THAT NOBODY OWES ABOUT. THREE HANDS WILL GO AFTER THE HEAD TO HEAD TO GOING OFF THE PORT OF ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF JUSTIN IS FOR KAREN.NEXT TO EACH OF
[349:00] THE YEAR OF THE THREE YEAR TERM.TOUCHES OF ALL UTAH TIME. SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHATTING ON THE BOARD LIKE LINDSAY. YET AGAIN NOW WHO WENT TO THE CHIEF APPLICATIONS AND A HOME. AND WATCH THE VIDEOS AND WE THOUGHT THAT STANDARD WOULD BE REALLY GOOD HE WOULD BRING A LOT OF GREAT STUFF TO THE COMMISSION SHE WAS. VERY WELL VERSED IN INTERPERSONAL COMMUNICATION AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT ASSET TO BRING TO THIS BOARD HAS BEEN A LOT OF WAR WITH.
[350:03] THE INCLUSION HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE NOVICE SISTER CITY PROJECT AND HE'S BEEN A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. AND WE JUST THINK HE WILL BRING SOME ESSENTIAL SKILLS TO SUPPORT THE NOMINEE OR NOMINEE TOMMY THOMPSON.IF YOU ARE TO TREAT IT LIKE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.I WAS IMPRESSED BY STAN IS WHAT I THINK YOU'D MAKE GREAT CT MEMBER BUT IT'S. NUMBING HAS DONE SOME IMPRESSIVE WORK AROUND DIVERSITY ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING. FOUNDING A PARENTING GROUP CALLED PARENTING INTO FIRST DC APPRECIATE THE WORK SHE'S DONE TO ELEVATE THE VOICES OF THE CAR OF COLOR AND BRING THEIR CONCERNS INTO THE COMMUNITY.AARON GOOD TO RECALL HER DOING A INTERVIEW WITH US.SHE DID NOT SHE WITHDREW BEFORE THE LAST INTERVIEW PROCESS IS WHO SHE WAS UNABLE TO. MAKE
[351:01] THE COMMITMENT BUT SHE SENT US AN EMAIL LAST COUPLE DAYS SAYING THAT SHE DID WANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS REVIEW BUT WE DIDN'T SEE THAT IS VERY TRUE.ANYTHING ELSEA SILVER STAR WITH GOAT THOMPSON. OK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF MOMMY AND I DO APPRECIATE THE INTEREST AND HOPEFULLY THE ROLE OF THE POINT MORE IN THIS CASE PART CORRECT.SO WE ARE NOMINATING CALI HERE AND UM IF YOU ALL REMEMBER SHE JUST HAD OUTSTANDING INTERVIEW SHE'S EXTREMELY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.SHE RUNS ON THE BORDER HIKER CHICKS GROUP AND SHE'S JUST FULL OF LIFE NEW SEASON NINE.
[352:15] I THINK SHE'S JUST GOING TO BE AN EXCELLENT MEMBER TO THIS SPORT SO ITS RESULTS ON ANOTHER BOARD WRITE LIKE PLAY COLORADO OR PLAY BALL THE NATION IS ON ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS.OK AND MY AFFIRMATION ALLEY ON THE DAY NOW.WE NEED EMOTION THAT WE NEED OPEN A HEARING ON MONDAY CAN TO MAKE A STUPID MOVE THROUGH WE ACCEPT THOSE THREE APPOINTMENTS TO THE SPORT.SECOND RAINBOW IN THE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CLOSING THE HEARING ANYTHING ELSE WE SAY THANK YOU THANK ++MUSIC PLAYING;; NEARBY.THIS HAS BEEN A VERY HEAVY SUBCOMMITTEE.YES THAT YOU
[353:11] DIDN'T ANTICIPATE AND HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT HIDING THINGS OR KILL THOSE IN FAVOR IS UNANIMOUS.I THINK THAT'S IT. DOES ANYBODY CARE TO THE PROCESS.A QUESTION FOR THE COMMITTEE AGAIN WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THE HOUSING ADVISORY BOARD.SO IT'S BEING OPENED UP FOR TEN DAYS. NOW AND IT STARTED TODAY. AND WILL WE DO INTERVIEWS AND THEN WE'LL GET WE'LL GET IN OUR APPLICATIONS TO INTERVIEW ONE OR TWO OTHER VACANCIES IN. THE US WE GOT A COUPLE MORE VACANCIES ON THE LANDMARKS BOARD AND IS IT THAT TM BORDERS AT THE IT'S A ABBOTT AGAIN SIAN TIAO OF
[354:00] TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT BOARD AND SO TO EIGHT.I THINK THAT WE CAN. MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS ALL AT THE SAME TIME. WE ALONG WITH THE HOUSING ADVISORY BOARD ONE OTHER THING US ABOUT THE HOUSING ADVISORY BOARD IS THAT WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL CRITERIA TO THE APPLICATION. AND SPECIFIED THAT WE WANTED SOMEBODY WITH EXPERIENCE IN WORKING WITH GOVERNMENT BOARDS AND PROCESSES AND EXPERIENCE AND POLICYMAKING SO THOSE WERE THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA WE ADDED JUST TO CLARIFY.ARE WE OPENING LANDMARKS AND THAT TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT OR JUST GOING OFF OF OLD APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO GO OFF OF OLD APPLICATIONS CASE. FOR THIS YEAR'S ANN AND
[355:00] TWENTY SEVEN TEAM. AND THE EDGES ON TO CLARIFY THAT THE REASON THAT WE'VE GONE TO TWENTY SEVENTEEN IS AT ONE OF THE ATLANTA AND KEEPING IN MIND OUR HEAVY LOAD.WE DON'T WE JUST WANTED TO. KEEP THINGS MOVING AND OPEN UP THAT WIDEN THE POOL FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SCHEDULE INTERVIEWS AND GO THROUGH ALL THAT AND THEN ADDITIONALLY. SINCE WE ARE AT THIS POINT GETTING INTO DUST AS FAR AWAY FROM THE PREVIOUS APPOINTMENT TIME. AND TO BE JUST AS CLOSE TO THE NEXT ONE THAT IF WE HAVE ANYMORE OR. RESIGNATIONS THAT WE WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT APPOINTMENT WITH THE CAVEAT IT MIGHT DEPEND ON WHAT BOARD TO. LANDMARKS WE HAVE TO HAVE SUFFICIENT APPLICANTS FROM
[356:00] NATURE AND LESTER SEEMS LIKE IT WAS THE REASON THIS YEAR AND WITH LAST YEAR'S. TOTAL AT IT AND I THINK WE WE FELT LIKE WE ARE TOTAL NUMBER. IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU WRITE IN YOUR EYE CHECK AND SEE IF THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED RATE EVERY DOCTOR MORGAN AFTER OPENING A CAN. OR A USB TO PROCESS BRIEFLY TO BE REALLY QUICK.TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN I GET HOME AFTER ROUTE MY BIKE HOME BANK AT HOME A NIGHT THAT WE COULD FINISH THIS DISCUSSION. LED TO WEEKS AGO AND AND IF THE FOLLOWING HAD HAPPENED IF WE HAD NOT HAD NEIGHBORHOOD NATIONAL NEIGHBOR NIGHT OUT. IN HEAD DEN DAT INSTEAD ON BOULDER'S NIGHT ON THURSDAY INSTEAD OF TUESDAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT. PEOPLE CAN JUST THINK ABOUT IT WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW BUT WE ONLY HAVE THESE REALLY
[357:00] HEAVY KIND OF ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY CONTROVERSIAL. AND WE KNOW WHICH ONES HERE I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE START OUR MEETING IT MAY BE FIVE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND WE DON'T HAVE A HEARING BECAUSE WHO CAN BE OVERCOME.WE WON'T HAVE AN OPEN COMMENT WAS JUST. TOTALLY FOCUS ON THE ISSUE AT HAND AND IN MOST CASES WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE PRESENTATION GET THE HEARING AT THE DELIBERATION AND VOTE.SO I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT. FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER BUT WE HAVE TO SEE DO YOU SING COMING UP AND WE DID THE HEARING PRETTY LONG TIME AGO AND SO IT REALLY HARD TO REMEMBER. THE ONE THING I WOULD JUST SAY IS THAT I THINK THESE BIG ISSUES ARE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS WHERE THAT'S ALL WE DO. AND WE'RE AVOIDING
[358:07] HAVING SPECIAL MEETINGS AND IT'S CAUGHT UP WITH US IN OUR HAVING A STATE THAT. WE COULD HAVE FROM THE BEGINNING SCHEDULED SPECIALLY FOR EIGHTY USE FOR THIS WAR AND TRIED TO DO THE MORE MONEY INTERESTS.OH WELL I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CHANGED THIS YEAR IS THE FIFTH TUESDAY AND I THINK THAT HAS ACTUALLY PROVIDED. A NICE RESPITE THAT WE CAN PLAN ON NO WHERE SCHEDULING SPECIAL MEETINGS AND IT'S GETTING TO BE PRETTY EXHAUSTING.I THINK THAT WE HAVE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE FIFTH TUESDAY WHICH HAS REALLY GIVEN EVERYBODY INCLUDING STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY JUST A BREAK. JUST LIKE WE'RE GOING THAT I THINK. SOMETHING WE MIGHT NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IN ORDER TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL TO GET THROUGH A REALLY COMPLICATED CONTROVERSIAL ONE IN ONE
[359:00] EVENING. IS TO MAYBE HAVE LESS TIME DEVOTED TO QUESTIONS BECAUSE I THINK WE WILL THINK SAY THREE ELEVEN MAPLETON AND AND AND THIS MATTER.BOTH OF THOSE PROBABLY ARE FOR THREE HOURS QUESTION AND ANSWER FROM COUNCIL AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN HAVE. A STAFF PRESENTATION IN A HEARING AND DELIBERATIONS WHEN WE USE THAT MUCH TIME FOR QUESTIONS. RIGHT THAT IF THE QUESTIONS ARE THERE THEY WILL BE AT LEAST AND IF YOURS ARE GERMANE TO THE DECISION ALRIGHT WITH THAT UM THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE.