July 17, 2018 — City Council Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:21] THE WIND THE THUS THE YEARS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THUS THE WARNING AND THE WAY IN

[1:04] THE WAY THE YEAR IN THE WHO THE TO THE TO THE ROOM THE MORE THE AIR IN IN AND

[2:09] THUS THE IN WAY THE TWO THUS IN THE WAY THUS IN THE YOU IN THE REAR OR THE YOU YEARS

[3:11] THE WIND DID DO A GOOD EVENING EVERYONE WELCOME TO THE JULY SEVENTEEN TWENTY EIGHTEEN BOULDER CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WHENEVER YOU CALL THE COUNCIL MEMBER POCKET HERE. CARLYLE BROWN OUT HERE JONES MARCEL NATAL CARE WEAVER HERE. YATES THEIR YOUNG. WE HAVE A QUORUM EXCELLENT SO A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED. ONE IS WE HAVE A HUGE INFORMATION PACKET THIS WEEK WHICH IS PUBLISHED ONLINE GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE AND IT CONTAINS UPDATES AND DESCRIPTIONS OF SEVEN ITEMS INCLUDING OUR TWENTY EIGHT U TEAM MID YEAR WORK PLAN

[4:02] THE EMILIE ANEMONE HILL LOOP TRAIL. BANKING IN JB JPMORGAN CHASE THE FOOTHILLS UNDERPASS A BOULDER ENERGY FUTURE SECOND QUARTER UPDATE AN IRRIGATION DITCH UPDATE AND ALSO ON VISION ZERO SO DIRECT. BOTH COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION TO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ANNOUNCE AS WE MEET WE WANT TO AMEND THE AGENDA VERY SLIGHTLY AND THAT IS TRUE REMOVE ONE ITEM ITEM THREE G WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND IT'S JUST A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE NOTES FROM THE JULY TENTH. STUDY SESSION ON RETAIL. THEY NEED A LOT MORE WORK SO WE DID SAY SHE DECIDED WE SHOULD JUST PULL THEM AND ADDRESS THE MATTER LEADER MIGHT MOVE THE WOMEN THE AGENDA STATES. IN ANY DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR IN CASE IT IS UNANIMOUS OK

[5:00] WITH THAT BEFORE WE GO TO OPEN COMMENT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A REPORT FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF ABOUT JULY FOURTH AND HOW THINGS WENT AND COULD BE IMPROVED THANKS MER GETTING COUNCIL. SO THANKS MOM FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ON JULY FOURTH SPECIFICALLY AT THE G FINE PARK. I WANT TO START OFF WITH SOME KIND OF A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE SEE ANNUALLY IN THAT AREA. WHAT WE'VE SEEN PREVIOUSLY AT THE PARK AND THEN GET INTO JULY FOURTH OF THIS YEAR SO ANNUALLY AS YOU KNOW ON BOULDER CREEK IS A PLACE THAT ATTRACTS TWO BURGERS AND DURING HIGH RUNOFF TIME WE SEE A LOT OF

[6:01] THEM SO THE AREA OF EBEN G FINE PARK AND WEST OF THE PARK TO THE TO THE CITY LIMITS AND INTO THE COUNTY IS GENERALLY A PLACE FOR TWO PER START AND THEN THEY COME TO THE EAST AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OPEN SPACE AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT MONITOR THAT AREA AND PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND ENFORCEMENT OF PARKING FOR THAT AREA IS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA PEOPLE CAN PARK IN THE PARKING LOT OF M G FINE PARK ON THE WRAP A HOLE ON CANYON NORTH OF IN IN SETTLERS PARK. SOME OF THE ADJACENT BUSINESSES AND ON WEEKENDS AT THE JUSTICE CENTER. SO WHEN WHEN THERE'S LOTSA TUMORS DOWN THERE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS PEOPLE HAVE PARKED OR TRIED TO PARK ON CANYON ON THE NORTH SHOULDER SO IT'S THE WESTBOUND LANES ON

[7:01] THE NORTH SHOULDER THAT AREA IS SACRED OR THERE ARE SIGNS THAT SAY NO PARKING OFFICERS WRITE TICKETS THERE IN TOW VEHICLES AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT FOR MANY YEARS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE SPECIFICALLY ON WEEKENDS SO RECENTLY DURING COLLABORATION MEETINGS WITH WORKS TRANSPORTATION AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MORE EFFECTIVE WAYS OF DISCOURAGING PARKING ON THAT NOR SIGNED THE NO PARKING SIGNS OBVIOUSLY DON'T WORK AND THE DANGER IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE PARKING ON THE SHOULDER AND THAT POTENTIALLY PUTS THEM IN TRAFFIC OR WHENEVER THEY'RE TRYING TO CROSS THE STREET EVEN IF THE PARKING LEGALLY AND SETTLERS PARK AND THEY TRYING CROSS CANYON IT'S A IT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION IT'S A STATE HIGHWAY SPEED

[8:00] LIMITS THIRTY FIVE MILES AN HOUR OR SO SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD A TRANSPORTATION IS IS THERE ENOUGH EFFECTIVE SIGNAGE THERE WE NEED MORE SIGNS TO THE SIGNS NEED TO MEET DUE TO THE SIGNS NEED TO BE MOVED CLOSER TO THE ROADWAY IS THERE SOME TYPE OF PHYSICAL BARRIER TO BLOCK PARKING THAT COULD BE PUT IN THAT AREA SO TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO REVIEW THE FREQUENCY AND PLACEMENT OF THE NO PARKING SIGNS AND THEY SAID EXPECT SOME CHANGES TO BE MADE ON THE QUESTION OF PHYSICAL BARRIERS IS MORE COMPLICATED AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION TO INCLUDE THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED SUCH AS BOMB SOMETHING MORE STATIC LIKE LARGE ROCKS OR BOULDERS OR SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPING THE SO THEY NEED TO LOOK AT THE COST OF THE AUTHORIZATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS THEY MANAGE

[9:00] THAT ROADWAY AND CO DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS WHAT'S CALLED A CLEAR DISTANCE STANDARD THAT MIGHT PRECLUDE SOME SORT OF APPROACH TO TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO THAT MORE TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S PHYSICAL BARRIERS THAT MAYBE WE COULD PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE. HENCE THE NOT CROSSING THE STREET OVER PREVIOUS FOURTH OF JULY'S IN EBEN G FINE PARK AND ON THE CREEK WE SEE AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE DOWN THERE. IT'S A NICE AREA BUT THE INCREASES ALWAYS BEEN THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WE ASSIGN OFFICERS EVERY EVERY YEAR TO SPECIFICALLY PATROL AND MANAGE THAT AREA AND THIS YEAR ON JULY FOURTH THE OFFICERS THAT WERE ASSIGNED ARRIVED DOWN THERE AT NOON TO FIND NOT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE BUT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WE WERE TESTED WE WERE UNABLE TO ESTIMATE THE CROWD

[10:00] BUT I HEARD ONE SUPERVISOR TOLD ME TWO TO THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE IT WAS HARD TO TELL BECAUSE OF THE PARK AND THE CREEK PATH. YOU KNOW AGAIN WE KNOW THAT IT'S A POPULAR AREA. I KNOW THAT'S IN THE LITTLETON IN THE SOUTH PLATTE AREA HAD A LARGE INCREASE LONG ONE ALSO HAD A LARGE INCREASE IN SAME BRAIN SO THESE TYPE AREAS ARE OBVIOUSLY ATTRACTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND CELEBRATE THE FOURTH AND TWO THERE WAS NO KNOWN SPONSOR OR PERMIT OBTAINED FOR THE EVENT OF A G FINE PARK AND TALKING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE PARK THEY GOT NOTIFIED VIA FRIENDS THEIR OWN CIRCLES FROM SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT CAN JUST GROW FROM PEOPLE USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO INVITE THEIR FRIENDS

[11:01] ARE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO COME TO KNOW WE WE'VE SEEN GATHERINGS OCCUR THAT WEREN'T ON OUR RADAR SCREEN. IN OTHER AREAS THE TOWN IN THE PAST SPECIFICALLY ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO ON ST PATRICK'S DAY NORTH OF BASELINE IN LIKE SIX ON SIXTEENTH SEVENTEENTH AND EIGHTEENTH. WE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM THERE AND ALL THE SUDDEN WHEN YOU'RE THIS JUST WASH THEM TO LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SO AGAIN THAT WASN'T ON OUR RADAR SCREEN SO WE HAD TO MAKE. WE HAD TO MAKE STAFFING ADJUSTMENTS OPERATIONAL PLANS ADJUSTMENTS TO ADDRESS THAT AND SO ON THIS JULY FOURTH OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE OFFICERS GOT DOWN THERE AND SAW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CALLED FOR ADDITIONAL OFFICERS TO COME DOWN SIX ADDITIONAL OFFICERS CAME DOWN PLUS A COMMANDER AND DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE CROWD AND THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WE HAD

[12:00] THE DECISION WAS MADE TO FOCUS ON KEEPING PEOPLE FROM BRINGING ALCOHOL INTO THE PARK PEOPLE CROSSING THE STREET UP ON CANYON AND HANDLING SEVERAL MEDICAL CALLS AND THERE WERE THREE ALCOHOL PLACEMENT WELL FOR PLACEMENT CALLS AN AMBULANCE COME DOWN I THINK IF OUR TRUCK COME DOWN AND THEY WERE TRYING TO TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE TYPE ISSUES WAS THE FOCUS THERE TENSION SEVERAL PARKING IN ALCOHOL RELATED TICKETS WERE WRITTEN SEVERAL CARS WERE TOWED AND I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE ARREST THAT WAS MADE WE HAVE DEBRIEF SINCE THE JULY FOURTH. SINCE JULY FOURTH. WE'VE MET WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN OPEN SPACE TO DEBRIEF JULY FOURTH AND DISCUSS HOW CAN WE LIMIT AND MANAGE A SELECT CROWD LIKE THIS FROM OCCURRING IN THE FUTURE SO SOME OF THE TOPICS INCLUDED LIMITING THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT POINTS

[13:02] AND POSSIBLY DOING BAG CHECKS THIS ALERT OUT CHAUTAUQUA GREEN IS MANAGED ON THE FOURTH OF JULY WERE FENCING IS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED AND AND CONTROL POINTS ARE LIMITED SO THAT WE CAN CONTROL ACCESS SOME AND EXIT POINTS AND PARKS DEPARTMENT ALSO INDICATED ADDITIONAL MESSAGING. SO CURRENTLY SINCE JULY FOURTH WE UP BEFORE JULY FOURTH IN CURRENTLY WHERE PATROLLING THE AREA WITH OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THOSE DISTRICTS ARE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACT TEAM WHICH WORKS THE HELM OF COURT ORDER AREA IS FOCUSING ATTENTION DOWN THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN DIRECTED PATROLS OVERTIME PATROLS WITH TWO OFFICERS EACH WEEKEND UNTIL LABOR DAY. THAT'S THE REPORT I WAS PLANNING ON

[14:02] GIVING CHEE CHEE VIA MORE QUESTION REGARDING JUST KIND OF YOUR AVERAGE WEEKEND PARKING IS THERE A WAY TO SIGN THAT PEOPLE SHOULD GO PARK AND JUSTICE CENTER PARKING LOT CAN BE WORKED OUT WITH THE COUNTY OR SOMETHING SO THAT IS USUALLY AMPLE PARKING IS A SAFE PLACE IT'S EASY ACCESS TO THE CREEK OR YOUR WALK A FEW BLOCKS TO THE PARK AND THAT WOULD MAYBE HANDLE LEAST YOUR AVERAGE WEEKEND I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT MEASURES YOUR MEASUREMENTS IN THAT SUGGESTION. I WASN'T THINKING OF PERMANENT SIGNAGE BUT MAYBE SOME TYPE OF TEMPORARY SIGNAGE THAT PARKS DEPARTMENT COULD PUT UP SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AS YOU KNOW FROM BEING DOWN THERE IT'S A GEOGRAPHICALLY IT'S A DIFFICULT AREA. IT'S A TOUGH AREA FOR VEHICLES IS YOU KNOW YOU GO WHEN THERE'S THE THERE'S THE CIRCLE ROUNDABOUT AND THEN THERE'S THE SHARP DRIVEWAY THAT GOES DOWN INTO THE PARKING LOT THE PARKING LOT OFTEN FULL. I WAS IN THERE YESTERDAY AND GOT STUCK IN THERE AND WAS WAITING TO TRY AND BACK OUT

[15:01] AND ON WEEKENDS IT CERTAINLY HAS MORE VOLUME THAN THAT AND THEN THE TRAFFIC IS ONE WAY GOING WESTBOUND IN A SLANTED COMING EASTBOUND SO IT IS A DIFFICULT AREA. I CAN CERTAINLY GET WITH THE VENDOR EVENT AND TRANSPORTATION WE CAN TALK YET BECAUSE I THINK TEMPORARY PUT UP THOSE SIGNS THAT GETS A PARKING AVAILABLE PARKING FULL TRY SOMETHING AND WOULD KEEP HIM ON THE SAME SIDE OF CANYON GUESTS ARE MARRYING AARON HILL SAID THE K HAD ME THE THANKS FOR THE UPDATE YOU AND SOMEBODY WAS RECOUNTING TO ME HE A DESCRIBING TO ME A ROPE SWING AND DESCRIBING HOW SOMEBODY LET GO A LITTLE BIT TOO SOON FELL IN IRAQ HIT THAT ON THEIR BACK. ANOTHER PERSON HIT A ROCK AND HAD A GIANT GASH ON THEIR LEG SO MY

[16:00] QUESTION IS THAT'S A THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU PUT HIM UP TO COME DOWN THE PAVEMENT BECAUSE AND DOWN WHAT WHAT KIND OF ENFORCEMENT CAN BE DONE IF THAT'S OBSERVED I MEAN JUST SEEMS LIKE A REAL POTENTIAL FOR HARM I'VE SEEN SLIP GOING TO SAY SLIP LINES SLACK LINE THINK AGAIN SLACK LINES ALSO UP THERE WHENEVER I'VE NOT DRIVEN DOWN THERE AND OFFICERS CAN CONTACT HIM AND TRY TO TAKE AND AND AND HAVE IT REMOVED THANK YOU AARON HILL AN AIR OF USE THAT ROOM SAYING I REALLY LIKE IT ACTUALLY COME TO MY QUESTION IS WITH THE EX EXPONENTIAL GROWTH IN THE CROWD SIZE. DID YOU SEE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH IN ISSUES OR WAS LIKE YOU MENTIONED ONE ARREST A COUPLE CALLS IS THAT NORMAL WHEN THERE'S HUNDREDS VERSUS

[17:01] THOUSANDS. SO WHENEVER THERE'S A LARGE CROWD OF PEOPLE LIKE UM EXAMPLE GIVE WOULD BE KILLED IN RIOTS THAT WE HAD HALLOWEEN EVENTS ON THE MALL WE WOULD GET THIRTY THOUSAND PEOPLE YOU ACTUALLY SEE LESS SPECIFIC ENFORCEMENT AND THE REASON YOU DO IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT CAN BE UNSAFE TO SEND OFFICERS IN A CROWD BECAUSE THE CROWD CAN NOT LIKE THAT AND TURN ON THEM START THROWING BOTTLES OR OTHER THINGS SO YOU TRY INTEND TO MANAGE THE LARGER EVENT RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS OR INDIVIDUAL VIOLATIONS ARE I I DIDN'T HAVE REPORTS OF FIGHTS THAT WERE DOWN THERE AS MARY MENTIONED THERE WERE SOME MEDICAL CALLS. THERE WERE CERTAINLY PEOPLE DRINKING ALCOHOL NOT EVERYBODY WAS BUT THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF FAT SO OFFICERS WERE TRYING TO WHEN I GOT DOWN THERE WITH

[18:00] THE INCREASE STAFFING WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT THEY COULD KIND OF ON THE PERIPHERY. THEY WERE WALKING THROUGH THERE THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH ANY LARGE CROWD THAT A THAT IT CAN CAN TURN HOSTILE TOWARDS TOWARDS THE POLICEMAN AND WE'VE YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH MANY MANY OF THOSE SITUATIONS DURING MY TENURE AND WE TRY TO FOCUS TO NOT DO THAT TO NOT INCREASE THE CROWDS AGGRESSION WITH TRYING TO MANAGE SHE VENTS HER PRESENTATION APPRECIATE THE POLICE BRING ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE BUT JUST THAT INSTEAD THE FOCUS I HOPE IS ON THE SAFETY ISSUES RIGHT AND IT IS BECAUSE HAVING PEOPLE COME ENJOY THE CREEK IN OF ITSELF IS NOT A PROBLEM SO I ASSUME THAT THE POLICE WILL BE FOCUSED ON THOSE KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE AND YES

[19:00] RIGHT IT'S AN OPEN PARK AND THERE'S NO LIMIT TO HER ARM TO ATTEND AND SIZES SO THAT SO SO AS MANY PEOPLE CAN CAN COME AS AS AS AS AS UM THE PARK CAN HANDLE JUST GREAT. CINDY THEM NEARBY WELL I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF CROWD CONTROL THERE SHOULD BE SOME LIMIT ON THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAUSES THE CROWD AND THAT'S WHAT LEADS TO IT BEING UNRULY AND HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE HOLLOW IN MACROS WHICH STARTED OUT FAIRLY INNOCENTLY AND AT LEAST SOMETHING LIKE FOUR TWENTY WHEN IT WAS ILLEGAL WAS IN ONE PLACE AND SO THAT IT HAS GOTTEN TO THE STAGES AND IT HAPPENS ON THE WEEKENDS JUST SORT OF FOR ALL I KNOW IN THE WEEKDAYS AS WELL LATER IN THE DAY BUT IT'S VERY UNSAFE PEOPLE PARK ON THE SOUTH SHOULDERS WELL SO THERE'S PARKING ALL ALONG THERE AND PEOPLE JUST SORT OF WANDERING ACROSS THE ROAD AND APPARENTLY THIS HAS BEEN

[20:01] GOING ON FOR A WHILE I WAS THERE ON JULY FIFTH LAST YEAR AND THERE WERE HUGE TRUCKS SHUTTLING UP THE TRASH SO IT MUST BE IT SOME EXTRA COST TO THE CITY AS WELL. WE DON'T MANAGE THE SIZE OF THESE EVENTS AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S INVITING ISSUES OF SAFETY IN TERMS OF THOSE NUMBERS THAT USED TO BE A FAIRLY QUIET FAMILY PARK PEOPLE WOULD COME FROM AROUND THE COUNTY AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD DISSUADE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM ATTENDING WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN THERE AS WELL. IN OTHER TIMES AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE AT LOOKING AT CROWD CONTROL. SO THE LAVERNE JOHNSON PARK IN LYONS HAS DONE THEN THEY'RE LIMITING ACCORDING TO PARKING PLACES AND I KNOW EVAN FINE DOESN'T HAVE THAT MANY PLACES BUT IT SEEMS THAT IT COULD BE DONE THERE AS YOU MENTIONED WITH CHAUTAUQUA THAT THERE ARE OTHER MODELS FOR DEALING WITH THE LARGER GROUP PEOPLE AND POSSIBLY LOOKING AT PARKS AND

[21:01] SEEING WHAT IS A REASONABLE SIZE TO BE IN THERE. IT'S NOT WALL TO WALL PEOPLE WOULDN'T THINK THEY STAY FIRM. THIS IS ACTUALLY THROW HE BROUGHT THIS UP I WAS ACTUALLY CONTACTED BY ONE OF OUR PARK RANGERS WHO WAS EXTREMELY UPSET ABOUT THE GENERAL SITUATION GOING ON AND IT WAS EXACERBATED EXACERBATED ON THE JULY FOURTH. SO I DRIVE THIS EVERY DAY TWICE A DAY AND EVEN COMING DOWN TODAY WAS COMING DOWN TO VERY HIGH MODE AND TRUCKS THAT HAD YOU KNOW THE WARNINGS THAT THEIR OVERSIZED AND PEOPLE ARE WALKING ALONG THE EDGES SO FROM A FIRST RESPONDER POINT UM I DRIVE THIS EVERYDAY AND I CAN GUARANTEE PEOPLE FASTER THAN FORTY MILES AN HOUR AND WHEN YOU'RE COMING AROUND THE TURN COMING DOWN GOING FORTY MILES WILL SAY THAT'S THE MINIMUM YOU'RE GOING IN THE SAME AND TWELVE TRAFFIC GOING TEN OR FIFTEEN MILES

[22:00] UNDER ITS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS NOT TO MENTION YOU PEOPLE ON THE SIDE SO YOU KNOW THE PARK TO UNDERSTAND AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE DOING WITH THAT BUT MY BIG CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS THE ROAD AND I DON'T KNOW AND MAYBE CLARIFY HERE THERE IS A TON OF WORK DONE THIS WINTER WHERE THEY CUT OUT A BUNCH OF TREES AND PUSHED BACK ROCKS RIGHT AT THE BASE OF THE CANYON AND SING OUT ALOUD TONS MORE PEOPLE TO PARK THERE EVEN IF THERE ARE NO PARKING SIGNS I HAVEN'T SEEN AS MANY AS I USED TO ACTUALLY UM BUT IT'S JUST ELEVEN TIMES INTO THE PARKING AND PEOPLE WILLING TO CROSS THE ROAD SO JUST AGAIN FROM A FIRST RESPONDER POINT I'D LIKE TO STOP THIS BEFORE. WE HAVE SOMEONE GET HIT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WHEN IT'S HER IF IT'S WHEN YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE SOME I JUST WANTED TO LEARN A FEW THINGS I DON'T LIVE THAT FAR FROM THEIR SITE RUNNING BY THOSE TIME AND ONE THING THAT'S GREAT ABOUT EBEN G FINE IS IT IS A WONDERFUL AND MIXING POT FOR COMMUNITY AND IT IS A WELL ENJOYED MULTI

[23:01] CULTURAL MULTI AGE PARKING THAT I DO WONDER WHAT A WONDERFUL THING. SO I DO THINK THE PARKING THING IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE PEOPLE TOWARDS SAFE PARKING THAT WOULD BE A BIG ISSUE AND I THINK THAT'S JUST LIKE ON THE OTHER THAT HAPPENS ON A HOME RUN TO THE SUMMER WEEKENDS BUT THAT TO ME IS ABOUT MANAGING THE SAFETY ISSUE AND THEN ON THE JULY FOR STUFF BUT I THINK WE SHOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AMPLE EVENTS HAPPENING AROUND TOWN IN BEAUTIFUL PLACES AT THE RESERVOIR SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE LOTS OF OPTIONS I DON'T THINK THE IDEA IS TO TO BE ANTI FUN HERE BUT MORE DISPERSED PEOPLE TOO MANY PLACES SO THAT EVERYBODY IS HAVING A GOOD TIME TO SELL ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE AND EIGHT I GUESS THE PARKING THING MAY MERIT MORE THOUGHT TO LET US KNOW IF IF YOU NEED OUR HELP OR WHATEVER BUT I THINK THAT YOUR BODY'S RATE

[24:00] THAT WE'RE GIVEN RECENT CONSTRUCTION. THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN ENCOURAGED MORE PEOPLE CROSSING BACK AND FORTH. OK THE EXCELLENT THINKING SO MUCH. OK WE'RE GOING TO OPEN COMMENT AND JUST REMIND EVERYBODY OF HOW THIS WORKS OPEN SIGNUPS CLOSE TO SOME FOLKS THAT ARE SIGNED UP CAN SPEAK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE SUBJECT MATTER OF OUR UPCOMING HEARINGS LATER IN EVENING AND THAT'S THE OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION OF LIFTING CAUGHT IN IT AND THEN THREE ELEVEN MAPLETON I WILL NOTE THOUGH THAT THREE ELEVEN MAPLE TO MARRY A HEARING ON SO WE WILL BE NO COMMENT THE HOPE THAT WAS CLEAR AND AT THE END WE CAN HEAR FROM A COUPLE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE FOR OUR EXPERIMENT WAS TRYING TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO PEOPLE IN MULTIPLE WAYS TO SPEAK TO US SO IT THAT JOSHUA AND EVERYONE HAS TWO MINUTES AND

[25:01] IF YOU START YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THAT WOULD BE GREAT HI THERE MY NAME IS JOSH MAYNARD AND I CURRENTLY LIVE AT FORTY FIVE SIXTY TWO SHAH BOULEVARD IN WESTMINSTER COLORADO. I MAY HAVE BEEN A MANAGING BUSINESS PARTNER AND IN BOULDER FOR THREE YEARS NOW LIVED IN BOULDER COUNTY THIRTEEN BOULDER PROPER TAN BUT I GOT A HOUSE WESTMINSTER I CAN AFFORD BOTH. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT GO BETTER BUT I AM HERE TO SAY IS I DO THINK WE HAVE A KIND OF LARGER POLITICAL DEMOCRACY PROBLEM I THINK POLITICIANS SUCH AS YOURSELVES ARE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THE SCHEME BECAUSE YOU ARE A LITTLE LOWER MUNICIPAL LEVEL VERSUS THE STATE KIND OF A FURTHER WAY YOU GET ON THE MORE YOU HAVE TO RELY ON A CAMPAIGN DONORS AND YOU HAVE KIND OF SKEWED PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE CORRECT POLITICAL MOVES ANY CASE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW I HAVE BEEN WORKING

[26:01] ON A WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN PLEDGE TO SIGN BALLOT INITIATIVES ONLINE AND I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT TO THE ENTIRE STATE BUT I HEARD THERE'S WORKING GROUP HERE WHERE YOU GUYS FOR CONSIDERING ACTUALLY DOING THAT AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING DIRECTOR MICHAEL TSE IS WAY BETTER FORM OF DEMOCRACY THAN REPRESENTATIONAL DEMOCRACY. I THINK THAT NOW THAT WE LIVE IN THE DIGITAL AGE IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO IMPLEMENT CONSIDERING WE ALREADY HAVE VOTER REGISTRATION ONLINE BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY I WAS CONSIDERING DOING A CAMPAIGN TO GET PEOPLE TO GATHER SIGNATURES TO DO A BORDER INITIATIVE BECAUSE MY ACTIVIST COMMUNITY HARD THAT I'M USED TO IS HERE AND I ACTUALLY STOOD DOWN TRYING TO DO THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE THERE WAS A WORKING GROUP SO I'M VERY MUCH LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING GOING HERE AND WORK TOWARDS THAT WITH CITY COUNCIL RATHER THAN JUST DOING INITIATIVE WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL ON SO I CAN SEND JOHN ALL AN EMAIL ANYWAY JUST LET YOU KNOW I'M AROUND TOO BUT I

[27:00] FOR DONORS OF SOMETHING SOON I MAY DO A PETITION NEXT YEAR THINK SAY THANK YOU JUST LESLIE AFTER LESLIE WE HAVE ANDREA EVENING GOWN SO THANK YOU SO MUCH HERE TO ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU FOR CARRYING OUT ABOUT ARLO AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OUR LOCAL ISSUES BUT ABOUT THESE LARGE GLOBAL ISSUES AND CARING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND MOVING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD ON ENERGY AND CLIMATE MASSIVE NEW RECORD SET IN MAY JUNE WAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER BUT NOT SO MUCH FOR COLORADO WHICH WAS MUCH ABOVE AVERAGE DO I NEED TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO HAVE NINETY SEVEN DAYS AFTER ANOTHER. NOTHING LIKE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HUNDRED AND TEN AND NOTHING LIKE MONTREAL WHERE WIN OVER A HUNDRED IN DOZENS OF PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING SO WE'VE ALL PLAYED A PART IN THAT OBVIOUSLY IN ADDITION WE HAVE DROUGHT AT THE RIO GRANDE MAY NOT LEAVE COLORADO. THE RIO

[28:02] GRANDE WHEN YOU PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER AND SOMEBODY MAKES A MISTAKE WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS UNDER TO DOZENS OF PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOMES AND SO HERE THAT BRINGS US TO A LOCAL ISSUE WHICH IS LOOKING I MEAN THIS WAS A SHAM PATRICK MURPHY OF IT UP SOON AND SORT OF AS XX CREATE YOU FOR DARING TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF THOSE LITTLE BLUE BARS THE RED BARS ARE EXILES REVENUE OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY ASSUMING IT STAYS FLAT. IT'S NOT LIKELY TO STAY FLAT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS ALOT TO PEOPLE LIKE ALL OF US BUT IT'S IN MY MIND MONEY WELL SPENT EVEN IF WE FOUND OUT THAT WE CAN'T DO THE MUNI IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE OR WHATEVER OTHER REASON WE HAVE HAD A MASSIVE EFFECT DENVER JUST COMMITTED ONE HUNDRED PERCENT RENEWABLE ENERGY BY TWENTY THIRTY AS A GOAL SO THANK YOU SO MUCH BOLDER FOR LEADING THE WAY WE HAVE A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE THOUSANDS MEGAWATTS OF WIND AND SOLAR READY TO GO IT IS DIRT CHEAP I UNFORTUNATELY XL IS LEAVING OVER NINETY PERCENT ABOUT NINETY SIX PERCENT OF THEIR BIDS ON THE TABLE. I'M SO HAPPY ABOUT THE PROGRESS

[29:00] THEY'RE MAKING BUT THEY COULD BE GOING FASTER AND THEN JUST TO SUMMARIZE AND WILL COME BACK HERE ACTS AS MAKING PROGRESS AND COLONIZATION BUT THE MOVE BACKWARD AND DEMOCRATIZATION AND DECENTRALIZATION. THAT'S A LONG STORY BUT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN TO ME FOR AWHILE AND YOU'LL KNOW WHY BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND IT'S BEEN REALLY TOUGH DOWN TO THE COMMISSION SO THANK YOU THANK YOU LESLIE AND TREY OF ARM MUSCLE OF A YARD. K AND THEN SHE'LL STAND IF YOU COULD BE READY TO GO. HELLO AND I HAVE ENOUGH HANDOUTS GO OUT NOW. OH GREAT SO HI I'M ANDREA. I HAVE LIVED IN BOULDER FOR ABOUT TWENTY FIVE YEARS AND I LOOKED INTO WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN YOUR SUPER BUSY I GET THAT AND I APPRECIATE FROM JUST WHAT

[30:00] YOU'VE SAID HOW YOUR CONCERN FOR SAFETY. I REALLY HATE THAT AND THAT IS MY SEGUE WHICH TALK ABOUT ROCKY FLATS I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ALOT ABOUT THIS BUT THIS MAY BE WILL BE NEW FOR YOU. SO THE HANDOUTS THAT I HAVE BEEN OUT FOR YOU THE FIRST IS A PICTURE OF ROCKY FLATS WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL BUT IT IS CONTAMINATED OR THIRTY SEVEN YEARS WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM WAS PRODUCED HERE SO THAT THE SECONDHAND OUT THAT I HAVE HERE AS A LETTER FROM THE MAN WHO ISOLATED THE FIRST KILOGRAM OF PLUTONIUM LETTING US KNOW IF THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF PLUTONIUM NO SAFE LEVELS NONE AND THE NEXT HANDOUT IS A PICTURE OF THE CONTAMINATION ON ROCKY FLATS THIS IS AN UNTESTED THAT MIDDLE PORTION SORRY DON'T HAVE PICTURES THE MIDDLE PORTION IS THAT THE ACTIVE SUPERFUND SITE IS AN ACTIVE SUPERFUND SITE NOW

[31:00] AND IS CONTINUING TO BE SUPER FUN SIDE ALL THE ARE AROUND THAT THE DONUT AROUND THAT AS THE WILDLIFE REFUGE WHICH ALSO HAS CONTAMINATION. NONE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA WHICH IS THE UPCOMING REFUGE HAS BEEN RE MEDIATED NOT ONE BIT OF REMEDIATION HAS BEEN DONE ON THE SUPERFUND MONEY AS IN THAT CENTRAL PORTION SO NEXT HANDOUT IS THE CONTAMINATION COMPARED WITH OTHER AREAS WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT AND THE LAST HANDOUT IS ABOUT WILDLIFE ON THE ROCKY FLATS THERE ARE EIGHTEEN SPECIES OF BURROWING ANIMALS ON THAT LAND THEY CAN GROW DOWN AND THEY DON'T KNOW OF THEIR YOUNG. I THINK YES THANK YOU FOR THIS IS THAT THEY HELP YET. SIEGEL IS SIEGEL HERE SIEGEL SAID I'M OK AND

[32:03] PATRICK MURPHY AND AFTER PATRICK WE HAVE DATA CAR CALLS TO THE BUDDIES PATRICK MURPHY WHO LIVE IN BOULDER. I WAS A MEMBER OF THE SEVENTEEN PERSON BUT NOW DISBANDED BOULDER ENERGY FUTURE COMMUNICATION ENGAGEMENT WORKING GROUP WAS A WELL CONSTRUCTED GROUP WITH EQUAL REPRESENTATION OF PEOPLE THAT WERE FOR AGAINST OR UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE MONEY EFFORT AND SADLY WE WERE NEVER ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE AND ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT THE MUNI DURING THE MEETINGS WE DID GET TO ASK THIRTY ONE OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANTED TO KNOW ALREADY KNEW ABOUT THE MUNI NOT SURPRISINGLY THE INTERVIEWEES MATCH THE TWENTY ELEVEN TWENTY SEVENTEEN VOTING RESULT WE CAME TO HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THE MUNI SOME ARE AGAINST IT

[33:00] SOME ARE IN FAVOR AND MOST WANTED TO KNOW THE FULL TRUTH AND MANY THOUGHT THEY WERE NOT GETTING THE TRUTH ALMOST EVERYONE REMEMBER TO LOVE ABOUT COST AND TIMELINE HAS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY WITH ACTUAL ALTERNATIVES TO THE MUNI INCLUDED SO HERE COMES A TRUTHFUL PRESENTATION OF THE MANY COSTS FOR TWENTY EIGHTEEN THE AVERAGE DAILY COST EACH AND EVERY DAY OF TWENTY EIGHTEEN IS OVER SEVENTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH AND EVERY DAY. THE TRUE TOTAL COST OF TWENTY EIGHT TEAM HAS OVER THIRTY THREE POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS THAT INCLUDES THE LAST UNDERGROUND AN ESTIMATED ONE POINT TWO MILLION A YEAR PROVIDED A HANDOUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT AS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE THE FINAL TOTAL COST WILL PROBABLY BE BETWEEN SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION AND A BILLION DOLLARS THE ACTUAL

[34:00] TIME BEFORE OUNCE OF CARBON REDUCTION IS AT BEST SEVEN TO TEN YEARS FROM TODAY WHAT A MINDLESS WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY BASED ON HALF FACTS EXCUSES AND BLAMING OTHERS ENGAGE THOSE THOUGHTS AND COMMUNICATE THE FULL TRUTH THANK YOU BETTER DATA AND THEN IF TYLER ROMERO WOULD BE READY TO GO IS IS THAT I HEAR MY SAY YOUR NAME RIGHT DATA DATA. TYLER NEFF TO TIE THE OTHER MICHAEL DUNN TO THEM TO OUR AID IS REALLY NICE BEING ON THAT SIDE THE SKY WE HAVE SO I AM A MEMBER OF THE HOTEL OR MARROW I LIVE ON A NORTHEAST BOULDER MEMBER OF THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE ELECTION

[35:00] WORKING GROUP AND I'M ACTUALLY HERE TODAY TO TOM TO AN OPEN HEARING NEXT MONTH AND DON'T GO TO LAW SCHOOL THAT'S GOOD IS GOOD REASON I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR ONLINE LISTENING. I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH DURING THIS WORKING GROUP. I JUST I'M REALLY HERE TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR TRANSPARENCY BEING EQUITABLE AND REPRESENTATIVE AND ACCESSIBLE SO DEMOCRACY FOR ME IS THAT BASED ON HAVING AN INFORMED MASS IS PATIENT AND FEDERAL OR STATE ISSUES AND KNEES CAN USUALLY BE ENTERTAINING OR INTERESTING ABOUT LOCAL ISSUES THAT AFFECT US A LOT THE COMPETITION SYSTEM HAS AND THAT HAVING ACCESS TO SMALL POPULATION AND OFTEN IGNORING HIM ALREADY MARGINALIZED GROUPS. IT'S HARD TO BECOME INFORMED IT'S HARD TO INFORM OTHERS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY AND

[36:01] IT'S CREATED A CULTURE WHERE THESE ORGANIZATIONS OR GROUPS OF A LOT OF MONEY COUNTIES PAY PETITIONERS TO KIND OF STRONG ARM ACTUALLY VIEWS TO THAT WHAT THEY WANT SO I'M PETITIONING GUIDE SOME MODERNIZED DEMOCRATIC ENGAGEMENT INCREASE ACCESS AND NISA PARTICIPATION IN DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE FROM THOSE PETITIONS AND THAT THE MORE RESPONSIVE AND REACTIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TIME TO GO TO WEBSITES LOOK AT THE INFORMATION FOR THE PETITIONS AND CAN EVEN SAFELY TAKE THEIR NAME OPTIONS AS WELL. IT'S ALL MINE SO IT FEELS LIKE IT SHOULD BE AT HEART AS MY AND PETITIONING THAT I DO THAT FOR THE STATE A TON OF STUFF THEY HAVE ON MY SOU IS SO FEELS LIKE I SHOULD BE THE SETTING COULD YOU DO IT IN THAT THEY SO CUTE I EVER LOOK AT LAW SCHOOL NOT

[37:00] THE MICHAEL MICHAEL HERE YEMEN BOOKS TO HIM AND REVEALS EVAN ROBERTS TABLE MESA FORMER U S SENATOR MIKE BELL WHO READ THE PENTAGON PAPERS DURING HIS ONE MAN FILIBUSTER TO END THE VIET NAM DRAFT IN NINETEEN SEVENTY ONE HAS SENT TWO COPIES OF HIS BOOK CITIZEN POWER TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALLOW PETITIONING ONLINE FOR MUNICIPAL BALLOT INITIATIVES HE'S EIGHTY EIGHT IN AND OUT OF THE HOSPITAL AND FORGOT TO COPY FOR AARON SO YOU CAN HAVE MINE AARON JOE ALREADY HAS ONE AND OF RALPH NADER IS FOREWORD READS QUOTE SENATOR GRAHAM BELL'S NATIONAL INITIATIVE IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL PROPOSAL I'VE EVER SEEN OR READ ABOUT BY ANY CANDIDATE IN A MAJOR PARTY IN THE UNITED STATES MAJOR QUOTES CICERO FREEDOM

[38:00] IS PARTICIPATION IN POWER REBEL WRITES THAT SUCH EMPOWERMENT MUST PAPER FORM OF LAW MAKING THE CENTRAL POWER OF GOVERNMENT. HE GOES ON TO CITE THE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY YEARS SUCCESS OF DIRECT DEMOCRACY IN SWITZERLAND WHICH KEEPS PARLIAMENT HUMBLE AND REPRESENTING THE MAJORITY DIRECTOR DEMOCRACY DOES NOT UNDERMINE REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT AS THE CITY ATTORNEY CLAIMED HERE DECEMBER NINETEENTH. BUT UNDERLIES IN SWITZERLAND AND IN BOULDER WHERE KEPT PROPOSED HOTELS AND DEVELOPMENT OFF OUR MOUNTAIN BACKDROP GAVE US THE COUNTRY'S FIRST APPROVED OPEN SPACE THE COUNTRY'S FIRST RIGHTS LAW A CAMPAIGN FINANCE THING THAT HELPED ELECT MOST OF YOU AND STOP THE PRACTICE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS QUITTING AT THE RIGHT TIME TO HELP APPOINT THEIR SUCCESSORS. INSTEAD OF US ELECTING THEM BUT INITIATIVE

[39:00] USES FOR AN OFF GREATLY IN BOULDER FOR SEVERAL REASONS AND TWENTY SIXTEEN PAID PETITIONERS ARRIVED EXACERBATING THE PROBLEMS THAT KYRA THANKS FOR YOUR TIME HE HAD WITH THE I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR FOR THIS AND I THINK MIKE REBELS UM ISN'T THAT HE HAD MORE FOR YES I THINK HE SHE DID YET EARLY YEARS SO I NEED TO OH YEAH AND SO UM I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THE BOOK AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION. OK THANKS THANKS SEVENTY WHEN THE GOOD EVENING THE MY NAME IS LYNN GILBERT I LIVE AT TWENTY ONE FORTY FOUR SEVENTEEN STREET IN BOULDER AND I'M A RETIRED PEDIATRIC NURSING PROFESSOR AND ONE OF THE PETITIONERS FOR THE SUGAR SWEETENED BEVERAGE EXCISE TAX WHICH PASSED IN TWENTY SIXTEEN AND HERE AGAIN ON BEHALF OF HEALTHY OLDER KIDS HEALTH EQUITY IN CHILD ADVOCACY

[40:01] GROUP AT THE JUNE NINETEEN COUNCIL MEETING I SPOKE TO THE PROPOSED BALLOT ISSUE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO RETAIN REVENUES ALREADY COLLECTED IN EXCESS OF THE AMOUNT CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATED ON THE TWENTY SECOND BALLOT TO ME TABOR RESTRICTIONS WE DO NOT HAVE A FOUR YEARS DATA AVAILABLE A STEP IN THE FIRST TEN MONTHS OF IMPLEMENTATION THE CITY COLLECTED OVER FOUR MILLION DOLLARS AT LAST MONTH'S COUNCIL MEETING THE AGENDA INDICATED THERE WOULD BE A SECOND READING THIS EVENING WHEN IT DIDN'T APPEAR ON THE AGENDA I CONTACTED THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IN A VERY HELPFUL WOMAN TO THE ISSUE OF DOGS FOURTEEN. HENCE I'VE PASSED OUT THE TALKING POINTS WE PREPARED FOR THE BEVERAGE INDUSTRY IS ALREADY USING ITS INFLUENCE TO NEGATIVELY INFLUENCE OPINION AND PROHIBIT OTHER ENTITIES FROM PASSING TAX MEASURES SUCH AS OURS AS GOVERNOR BROWN OF CALIFORNIA FOR SUCH REASONS WE'D LIKE AN UPDATE TO THE BALLOT LANGUAGE THAT WOULD EXPLICITLY ASK VOTERS IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS IF THEY WOULD WANT THE OVERAGE IS IN REVENUE TO CONTINUE FUNDING HEALTH EQUITY PROGRAMS OR BE

[41:00] RETURNED TO BEVERAGE INDUSTRY DISTRIBUTORS. WE ALSO ASKED THE COUNCIL MEM MEMBERS ENDORSED THE MEASURE PUBLICLY EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY THE ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVING HEALTH EQUITY FUNDING. IT'S VITAL TO GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE VOTERS THE MONEY COLLECTED IN TO THE HEALTH EQUITY FUND IS GOING EXACTLY WHERE BOULDER CITIZENS VOTED THAT IT SHOULD AND THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE AFFECTING HER HEALTH EQUITY POSSIBLY IF WE CAN BE OF ANY ASSISTANCE IN THE BALLOT PROCESS PLEASE CALL ON US AND THANK YOU FREE CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE HEALTH OF OLDER FAMILIES THANK YOU. ALEXIA PARKS AND THEN KATHERINE LEONARD WAS GOING TO CALL IT HIGH ON ALEXIA PARKS I LIVE AT NINE SEVENTY THREE FIRST ST IN BOULDER. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE THE FIRST A QUICK LITTLE BACKGROUND IN NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE I WAS THE FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF

[42:01] BOULDER STUDY TRIALS IN NINETEEN EIGHTY NINETEEN EIGHTY ONE ACTUALLY WAS FOUND AND TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THE CITY OF BOULDER'S CREATE A POWER ENERGY FUTURES PROGRAM WHICH CONTINUES TODAY AND BEYOND AND IN NINETEEN NINETY FIVE I ACTUALLY RAN IN PART WITH THIS CITY AND OTHER RECENT ROCKY FLATS I HAD FOR LINC WAS THE FIRST ONE THE FIRST ELECTRONIC DEMOCRACY SYSTEMS ON THE INTERNET I MENTION THAT I MENTION THIS BECAUSE I'M A MEMBER OF A UNIQUE BRAIN TRUST SOME OF WHOSE MEMBERS SIT BEHIND ME HERE REFLECTING SOME OF BOULDER'S CORE VALUES THAT WE REALLY VALUE AND HOLD TWO RELATED TO PROTECTING LAND FOR WIDESPREAD BENEFIT FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS DON'T ENCOURAGE YOU TO FEEL FREE TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO US WE REPRESENT A LOT OF EXPERTISE WE HAVE SOME LESS GRAY HAIR AND THEM AND ALL THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO GO TO BAT THAT WE WERE FREE TO GIVE TO YOU

[43:00] IF YOU ASK HIM WHERE OPEN FOR THAT. SO MY MESSAGE IS SIMPLY TO YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING TONIGHT AND EVERY TIME YOU MAKE A DECISION I THINK THIS IS EXCITING TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO FOLLOW YOUR GUT FEELING IT'S ALMOST LIKE MOTHER NATURE'S NUMBER ONE SUCCESS STRATEGY. I MEAN SURFACE AIR TOWN AND GET THAT EDGY FEELING IT'S THE MAIN SAYING WAIT A MINUTE TO SLOW DOWN WHEN YOU GET SO TORN AND THAT RUSHING KNOW WHAT YOUR GUT LEVEL THAT YOU'VE DONE THE RIGHT THING AND SO ARE SAYING PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING THAT ALIGNS WITH COMMUNITY VALUES. TONIGHT YOU HAVE AN HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT RIGHT THING AND FROM A POSITION OF CLARITY ACTUALLY GO ON PAUSE IF YOU NEED TO SAY YOU HAVE PERMISSION TO PAS DROP ON OUR EXPERTISE SNOW NEVER AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THANK YOU THANK YOU OKAY. AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO THERE'S A SCRIPT GOES WITH THIS. AS PART OF ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE

[44:00] TRYING TO INCREASE WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH US WE ARE. WE HAVE OFFERED TO HAVE PEOPLE TRY CALLING IN TO GIVE US COMMENT FOR THOSE WHO FIND IT DIFFICULT TO GET TO MEET THE FIRST PERSON I BELIEVE IS HAS TURNED WERNER ACTUALLY HAVE MARY ON THE PHONE AND MARY IF YOU CAN HEAR ME YOU WILL BE OUR NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE A NEW PHONE BY HITTING STAR SIX AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'VE DONE THAT OKAY YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES BEGINNING NOW. MY NAME IS MARY JO AND I LIVE IN BOULDER AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE UN'S FOR THE AIRPORT AND I FEEL THAT FOURTEEN THOUSAND RESIDENCES THAT ARE WEST OF MAPLE TEN IN THE AIRPORT IN AN AREA ARE BEING OVERBURDENED BY NOT ONLY THE OCCASIONAL MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR CHARGE FOR

[45:02] THEIR TRASH HAULING CONTAINERS THAT IN ADDITION FOR CARTON SOUR NOT THE HEAD MULTIPLE TIMES THEY ARE LESS AND IT'LL BE AFTER THE CONTAINERS ARE EMPTIED BY THE HAULERS DIDN'T BUY THE WAY CAN RESULT IN A HUGE BY THE BY PER AND FOR THAT HOMEOWNER ESSENTIALLY NO CONTROL OVER THAT THESE ADDITIONAL FEES. I FEEL ARE RANDOM IN NATURE BY AN OVER CONTROLLING THE ORDINANCE ISSUED BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE OTHER HOT. THE HIGH COST OF LIVING IN BOULDER. I KNOW THAT THE OVER MILLION DOLLARS EACH YEAR THE FAMILIES IN THE AIRPORT AND DONORS SENDING IN ADDITIONAL FEES FOR BEAR PROOF CONTAINERS IS THE TOWN TO PAY FOR CONTAINERS THAT ARE

[46:00] BURDENSOME AND NOT DEPENDABLE IN LAW THAT MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR SPENT MY FAMILY'S GIFTS USUALLY KNOW WHEN THEY COULD BE SPENT ON HOUSING AND THE ORDINANCE TO BE REMOVED THE AIR AND NOT INCLUSIVE TO THE WHOLE POPULATION OF BOULDER THE WISDOM OF THE U S THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN MARY WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE ON THE PHONE. OK SO WITH THAT UM WE'RE GOING TO END OPEN COMMENT FOR EACH ARTIST AFTER ANY RESPONSES SO WE WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT HAD AN UPDATE ON THE BARE TRASH ORDINANCE IN AWHILE I THINK THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO THAT IN THE FALL AFTER THIS NEXT SEASON IS FINISHED WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HAVE

[47:01] REPORTED THROUGH AN IP CAN WE WAIT UNTIL THE UPDATE THIS FALL DEEPER FOR THE ETHIC OF THIS WAS AN OKAY THING TO SAY THANKS BUT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE NUMBER ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE IT COSTS A COMEDIC PAY FOR THEIR CONTAINERS YET ANOTHER HIGH YET SINCE IT SEEMS HIGH. IF YOU DO THE MATH IT'S ABOUT SIX DOLLARS PER MONTH PER HOUSEHOLD BASED ON THE MILLION DIVIDED BY FOURTEEN THOUSAND DIED OF IT ALL MONTH SO THAT MY BMI TO XBOX MONTH HOUSEHOLD. WELL THE QUESTION MIGHT IN A LOT OF THAT HAS TO HOLD A SPECIFIC COLOR AND WHAT THEY CHARGE SO MAYBE THEY CAN SPEAK TO THEM. OK THANK YOU THAT SAW HIM AVAILABLE SESSIONS. OK MARY IN THE ON THE MS GILBERT GOT UP AND SPOKE ABOUT THE AND HEALTH EQUITY TAX AN THAT WE CHANGE

[48:02] LINE WHICH PERMANENTLY. MY IMPRESSION IS THAT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A ONE TIME ALLOWANCE TO GO OVER THE ESTIMATE IS THAT CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT AND UNDER KEEPER FOR THE FIRST YEAR YOU HAVE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION TO KEEP THE REVENUE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE REVENUE FOR THAT FIRST YEAR THE ORIGINAL BALLOT MEASURE ACTUALLY HAS WHAT IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS DEEP BRUISING LANGUAGE WHICH ALLOWS EXCESS REVENUE TO BE RETAINED BY THE CITY SO IN FUTURE YEARS THIS WILL NOT BE NECESSARY IT WILL NOT BE NECESSARY IN QUEUE TILL WE JUST HAD A FEW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ONLINE BALLOT PETITION SIGNING I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNEW THAT WE DO HAVE A HEARING NEXT MONTH AT ITS AUGUST TWENTY FOUR OR FOURTEEN. OK THEN I WAS CURIOUS WEEK OVER THE COURSE

[49:00] OF A NUMBER OF MONTHS WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE LIKE ANDRA SPEAK ABOUT ROCKY FLATS AND I DON'T THINK THE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE ON THIS IS THEIR ONE PLANNED FOR THE FUTURE WE HAVE ONE COMING FOR YOU OVER AND UPDATE. UM I THINK IT'S EARLY AUGUST BUT I'M ALWAYS HAPPY TO AND SPEAK ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO KNOW MORE. YEAH I WAS ONLY GOING TO ECHO WHAT YOU SAID WHICH IS WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE ONLINE PETITIONING COMING RIGHT UP SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT ON THAT. OKAY ANYTHING ELSE LET ME THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT INPUT AND I RETURNED TO OUR NEXT ITEM NEXT IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA HE HAVE ITEMS A THROUGH J WITH ITEMS SHE REMOVED AND MOST OF THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD EXCEPT

[50:02] FOR J IS A FIRST READING I AM THAT WE JUST MIGHT WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO BRIEFLY BUT NOT DISCUSS THE LONG NIGHT CHEERS TO YOU O YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO JUST BRING CLOSER ATTENTION TO THE QUESTIONS. OK EVERYBODY FOR THE QUESTION ABOUT YOU'RE GOOD. IT'S NEVER A QUESTION FOR SAY BUT JUST WHEN YOU GET A QUICK COMING OUT WHICH IS FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THIS I THINK THE INTENT IS TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL IN OUR CORE SCHL ZONES AROUND TOWN WHICH I THINK IS A LAUDABLE GOAL. I JUST I DO WANT TO WORK ON THE EXACT APPROACH IN THE LANGUAGE AND THE DEATH WE MIGHT REQUIRE FOR EXAMPLE RETAIL TO BE ON A SITE SCIENTIST IN PLAIN WORDS CAN BE LOOKING AT THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR INPUT AND THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT JUST PUT ON THE TABLE I LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE EXACT FORM THAT

[51:00] THIS MIGHT TAKE WHEN WE HAVE SECONDLY I THINK TOM CARMAN OR WHOEVER DRAFTED IN THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MENTION THAT THEY DRAFTED IT BROADLY SO THAT WE CAN FINE TUNE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING INPUT FROM THE PLANNING BOARD AS WELL AS ABOUT HOW WE DO THAT IN A WAY TO PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL AND WHAT IT DOES JUST IN CASE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TO ADDRESS PRESERVATION ON THE FIRST FOUR ARE MAKING SURE THAT ON FIRST FLOOR. MOM GOES TO RETAIL IN BC ONE IN B C TWO ZONING DISTRICT. THERE'S THIS I WILL MAKE THE SAME COMMENT THAT I MADE AT THE OTHER CHANGE TO REQUIRE RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS WORKABLE FOR HER BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AND THE WORKERS ARE LIKELY TO BE HAVE TO DRIVE SO IT WILL BE WASHABLE FOR SOME BUT OTHERS WILL

[52:01] HAVE TO DRIVE SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE REALLY CREATING A FIFTEEN MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD OK ASSUME I MEAN I GUESS THE POINT HERE IS THAT THE AREAS WHERE THESE ZONES ARE TYPICALLY LOCATED ON THE EDGE OF NEIGHBORHOODS FROM A TYPICALLY HAVE THINGS LIKE GROCERY STORES OR NEIGHBORHOOD COFFEE SHOPS OR BIKE SHOPS OR THERE'S OLD RANGE OF USES THAT ARE THERE THAT SERVE EITHER NEARBY OR EVEN PEOPLE WHO DRIVE THERE BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO LIKE THE COFFEE SHOP OR THAT CALM BIKE STORE AND SO THE IDEA IS TO ME BECAUSE THE USES ALLOWED IN THOSE ZONES CURRENTLY COULD BE HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL THE IDEA WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN IF PRESIDENTIAL BUZZ GOING AND IT'S BEEN A MIXED USE CONFIGURATIONS OF THE NET NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL DOESN'T GET DISPLACED AND SO MARY WHAT YOU SAID IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AT THE SAME TIME THOSE AREAS TYPICALLY RIGHT NOW ARE SOME KIND OF SOME COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR AND

[53:00] THE IDEA IS THAT THEY NOT BE COMPLETELY LOST IF THERE'S A REDEVELOPMENT NINE OR SEND THAT THANK YOU FOR PUTTING OUT ADDITIONAL MOTIVATION FOR IT SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING INPUT ON THIS SIDE JUST FOR TREATING GOOD FOR YOU IS JUST GOING TO CA WHEN THAT THING AND CINDY AND NEARBY FOR BRINGING THIS UP AND I THINK IT JUST GIVES PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENCE OF WHAT UNDER DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTERS THAT ARE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW WHAT THEY MIGHT BECOME AND THAT THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE RESIDENTS. SO I'M EXCITED TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS SO THANK YOU GREAT AND THEN MAYBE YOU MAKE MOTION. OK AND I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE CLINTON AGENDA EXCEPT I WILL BE RECUSED MYSELF FROM SOME ITEMS THREE C IN THREE

[54:07] EASY BECAUSE I WAS IN HERE SECOND ANY MORE DISCUSSION K K WILL THE ROLL CALL VOTE WE BEGIN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MARCEL NAGEL I WEAVER YATES BY YOUNG YES BROKEN IX PAY SHOULD ABSTAIN FROM F AND G IS I WAS IN HERE FOR THE MEETING. THREE FN THREE G THIS CARLISLE I GROW I ACCEPT IT SEEMS THEY'RE THE SAME FROM THREE F AND THREE G AND MARY JONES. I EXCEPT FOR WHATEVER MEETING I WASN'T HERE FOR REMEMBER IS THAT TWELVE IS TWELVE SO I'M REALLY SEEK THE CONSENT AGENDA PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT

[55:02] THEY CAN GET THIS THE NEXT YOUR CALL OF CHECK AND THE FIRST ONE IS A CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW FOR THE LAKE SUMTER CAMPUS. WELL OKAY IT'S NOT THAT OKAY LAKE CENTER CAMPUS. IT'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION HAPPENING AN EMAIL I JUST SENT ME A EMAIL QUESTIONING THE HIGH END SOME FORTY FIVE FEET IS PROPOSED AND IN THEN TONING IT'S FORTY FEET BUT THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT REVIEW AT THIS POINT NOT AT A SITE REVIEW AND JUST REMIND PEOPLE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ACREAGE OUT THERE THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED INTO HOUSING FOR PEOPLE TO JUST NOTABLY THIS INCLUDES AN ANNEXATION WHICH MEANS IT WILL COME BACK BEFORE US

[56:02] RIGHT AND CENTRE RIGHT UPRIGHT. THE REASON WHY IT'S ABOVE THIRTY FIVE XI BECAUSE IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE. I SELL ITS PER USUAL. OK SO IT ALLOWED UP TO FORTY K SEAT LATER WE DON'T NEED TO CALLED UP KAY KAY YOUR NEXT ONE IS A COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT PROCESS FOR THE FOOTHILLS PARKWAY AND COLORADO BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS PROJECT EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT THE NEED TO CALL THEM JUST AT THE TEMPORAL GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD AND I THOUGHT THIS CHOICE THEY MADE WAS A GOOD ONE. OK A FINAL CALL UP IS REGARDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM THERE'S A NEW ZONE CREATION AND EXPANSION OF EXISTING ZONES OF THE SNOW THAT WAS ANOTHER ONE IN THE TRANSPORTATION BOARD LOOKED AT QUITE EARLY AND

[57:01] SEEMS LIKE THE CAME TO A GOOD DECISION AND WORKED WITH STAFF OR TO REALLY GET THERE SO I DON'T FEEL A NEED TO CALL UP ANYBODY THEY CAN REMOVE YOUR HEARINGS YOUR FIRST ONE FOR TONIGHT'S OPEN SPACE AND MOUNTAIN PARKS ACQUISITION OF THE LIP AND CUT PROPERTY THE SO LET ME INTRODUCED AND BERKLEY INTERIM DIRECTOR OF OPEN SPACE MOUNTAIN PARKS TO THE RAIN AND GOOD EVENING COUNCIL AND I'M JUST GOING TO OPEN UP WITH A FEW BRIEF REMARKS AND MAKE A PRODUCTION OF WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT AND THEY ALL TURN THINGS OVER TO BETHANY COLLINS JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT FOR MANY YEARS OPEN SPACE AMONG PARKS AND FOR THAT MATTER JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE HAS BARELY BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY OF WORKING WITH THE LIP AND CUT FAMILY TO PROTECT THIS ONE OF A KIND PROPERTY AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE CIRCUMSTANCES AND

[58:00] TIMING WITH THE LIVING GOD FAMILY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY HAVE ALL ALIGNED TO COME TOGETHER AND THE OPPORTUNITY IS ACTUALLY NOW AT HAND TO PERMANENTLY PROTECT THE ONE OF THE LARGEST LAST REMAINING UNPROTECTED RANCH PROPERTIES THAT IS CONNECTED TO CITY OPEN SPACE AND I JUST PERSONALLY WANT TO EXTEND MY THANKS TO THE LOOKOUT FAMILY NOT ONLY FOR THEIR CARE A SPECIAL CARE AND GREAT CARE OF THIS PROPERTY OVER THE MANY DECADES BUT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THEY ARE PROVIDING WITH THE CHANCE TO SEE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS PROPERLY PROTECTED WELL INTO THE FUTURE SO THIS POTENTIAL THE POTENTIAL PURCHASE NOT ONLY REPRESENTS PRESENTS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT A VERY BEAUTIFUL AND SPECTACULAR PROPERTY AND ONE OF THE MOST ECOLOGICALLY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTIES THAT REGION BUT ALSO PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER AND COLLABORATE WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT A COUPLE REPRESENTATIVES FROM JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE ARE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TONIGHT INCLUDING DIRECTOR

[59:00] TIME WE HAVE A QUESTION FOR TOM HE IS HERE AND WILLING TO SPEAK AND THIS PARTNERSHIP PROVIDES STICK CITY AND COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE STAFF RESOURCES STAFF EXPERTISE STAFF CAPACITIES AND BUNNIES AND THE PURCHASE OF LONG TERM STEWARDSHIP OF THIS RANCH AND STEWARDSHIP THAT WAS OF COURSE BE IN ACCORDANCE TO A CITY OUR CITY OPEN SPACE CHARTER. SO WITH THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE ANXIOUS TO DIVE INTO THE DETAILS OF THIS PROPERTY WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO BETHANY COLLINS THANK YOU THANK YOU GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IN ADDITION TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT DAY AND WERE INTRODUCED I ALSO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT PAT LIVED IN CA WHO IS THE DAUGHTER OF CHUCK AND SHIRLEY UP IN CA IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL AS A FAMILY FRIEND MYRA AS WELL AS THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER JOHN WHO THEY BELIEVED HIS LAST NAME AND WE ALSO HAVE CURT BROWN FROM OUR OPEN SPACE BOARD OF

[60:01] TRUSTEES IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE TODAY I WRITE THIS AGENDA ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE LIP AND CAUGHT RANCH PROPERTY FOR OPEN SPACE PURPOSES AND A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POTENTIAL FUTURE DISPOSAL OF A SUB LEASE AND FIFTY PERCENT UNDIVIDED INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY TO JEFFERSON COUNTY PURSUANT TO SECTION ONE SEVENTY SEVEN OF THE BOULDER CITY CHARTER LIKE TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME THIS EVENING TO PRESENT SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS OF THE PROPERTY AND DESCRIBE WHAT MAKES THIS PROPOSED ACQUISITION AND PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS SO UNIQUE AS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED ACQUISITION THE LIP IN CA TRAN STRADDLES THE BOULDER AND JEFFERSON COUNTY LINE AND IS FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO ACRE PROPERTY FEATURING AMONG OTHER EXCEPTIONAL ATTRIBUTES DIVERSE TERRAIN AND RARE HABITATS EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESTORATION AND SEASONAL CATTLE PASTURE IN PORTIONS HAVE BEEN OWNED BY THE CHARLES AND SURELY LOOKING HOT FAMILY SINCE THE NINETEEN THIRTIES AND THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN AN ACQUISITION PRIORITY FOR BOTH

[61:02] SNP AND JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE SINCE AT LEAST THE EARLY NINETEEN NINETIES THE SEVEN POINT SEVEN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS PURCHASE PRICE WILL INCLUDE THE VACANT LAND A PERTINENT WATER RATES AND ANY REMAINING MINERAL RIGHTS. THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT SEA AND CONNECTIVITY TO OVER EIGHTY THOUSAND ACRES OF OTHER CITY COUNTY STATE AND FEDERAL PROPERTY INTERESTS MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE FOR LANDSCAPE SCALE CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT AS MENTIONED IN THE MOUTH THE LIP AND CUT RANCH FULFILLS MANY OF OUR OPEN SPACE CHARTER PURPOSES AND IS CONSIDERED A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ACQUISITION BY PROGRAM STAFF FOR ITS IMPORTANT FEATURES VALUABLE RESOURCES AND DIVERSE HABITATS. A JURY THE PROPERTY IS A PONDEROSA PINE ECOLOGY INCLUDING STANDS OF OLD GROWTH FOREST WHILE THE CLIFFS WEST OF THE RAILROAD CORRIDOR HAVE HISTORICALLY SUPPORTED RAPTORS EXCUSE ME SUPPORTED NESTING GOLDEN EAGLES AND FALCONS ARE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE NESTING FOR OTHER RAPTORS AS WELL. JASON

[62:00] SIMILAR PROPERTIES PROVIDE EXCELLENT HABITAT FOR SA AUS COOPER'S HAWKS AND TREV NESTING BIRDS AS WELL AS AN INCREDIBLE OVER AT A VARIETY OF SONGBIRD POPULATIONS ADDITIONALLY THE BULL GOLD CORD OR SERVES AS A WELL USED ELK MIGRATION ROUTE FROM THE GRASS LAND JUST WEST OF NINETY THREE TO WINTER PARK AND THE PROPERTY WILL LIKELY ADD TO THE IMPORTANT HABITAT FOR ROASTING WILD TURKEYS FOUND ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES A LARGE PORTION OF THE RANCH IS DESIGNATED A VERY HIGH BIODIVERSITY SIGNIFICANCE BASED ON PREVIOUS INVENTORY IS DONE BY THE CAR NATURAL HERITAGE PROGRAM ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TERMS OF WATER RESOURCES THE PROPOSED ACQUISITION INCLUDES PERENNIAL DRAINAGE IS EPHEMERAL PONDS AND NATURAL SPRINGS THAT NOT ONLY PROVIDE UNIQUE HABITAT AND HOST RARE SPECIES BUT ALSO CONTINUE AS WATER COURSES ON NEIGHBORING OPEN SPACE PROPERTIES SO ACQUISITION COULD ALLOW BETTER CONTROL OF THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE DRAINAGE IS ADDITIONALLY THE BOWL GULCH COURT ARE THE BOLD EXCUSE ME THE BOULDER GULCH DRAINAGE

[63:00] CROSSING THE PROPERTY WAS HEAVILY DAMAGED IN THE TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN FLOOD INCLUDING EXTRAORDINARY WASH OUT BENEATH THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD AND WHILE OPEN SPACE STAFF IS IMPRESSED WITH THE REMARKABLE PART POST FLOOD RECOVERY AND CHANNEL AND VEGETATION IN THE CHANNEL ACQUISITION OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE AND MANAGE THIS IMPORTANT DRAINAGE AND POTENTIALLY MEET MITIGATE FUTURE FLOOD IMPACTS FROM A SCENIC PERSPECTIVES THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MOUNTAIN BACKDROP AND ITS HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM HIGHWAY NINETY THREE SURROUNDING OPEN SPACE AND AREAS OF SOUTH BOULDER AS WELL AS TO WRITERS OF AMTRAK ON THE RAIL LIGHT RAIL LINE THAT BY THE PROPERTY THE SWEEPING VIEWS FROM THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPERTY INCLUDE DOWNTOWN DENVER ROCKY FLATS WILDLIFE REFUGE AND ROLL WHEN FARM THE EYE AND BEYOND. AS NOTED EARLIER THE PROPERTY IS EPHEMERAL PONDS PROVIDE SUITABLE HABITAT FOR NORTHERN

[64:00] LEOPARD FROGS AND THE FOREST CANOPY THE ROCKY CLIFFS AND GRASSLANDS ACCOMMODATE EVER SUNG THE SONG BIRD POPULATIONS AND BIRDS OF PREY THE LIVING CAUGHT RANCH IS IN THE VICINITY OF CRITICAL HABITAT FOR PEBBLES MEADOW JUMPING MOUSE AND ITS DENSE GROUND LEVEL OF EDUCATION CAN PROVIDE APPROPRIATE HABITAT FOR THIS FEDERALLY THREATENED SPECIES. SOUTH ALSO OBSERVE THE RARE DWARF LEAD PLATE LED PLAN ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS AREAS OF ZURICH TALL GRASS WHICH IS A LOCALLY NATIONALLY AND FED AND GLOBALLY RARE PLANT COMMUNITY TRACKS OF THIS COMMUNITY ON ROCKY FLATS WILDLIFE REFUGE AND ON OPEN SPACE ARE POSSIBLY THE LARGEST REMAINING IN NORTH AMERICA AND ACQUISITION OF THIS PROPERTY REPRESENTS CONTINUE CONNECTIVITY OF THIS COMMUNITY ACROSS NEIGHBORING OPEN SPACE PROPERTIES AS WELL AS THE UPPER TEENS TO EXPAND THE COMMUNITY THROUGH MANAGEMENT AGREES FLIPPIN CAR AND ALSO INCLUDES UNIQUE GEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL ELEMENTS THE PROPERTY HOSTED A FACTORY CLAY AND SHALE

[65:00] MINING IN THE NINETEEN FIFTIES AND BOASTS A LARGE HILLSIDE OF UNIQUE RIPPLE ROCK AND STUNNING SAND SANDSTONE CLIFF FORMATIONS ADJACENT PROPERTIES HAVE EXPOSED DINOSAUR TRACKS AND PLANT FOSSILS WHICH ARE EXPECTED TO BE SEEN ON THE LIP IN CA PROPERTY AS WELL AND ARCHITECTURAL EXCUSE ME ARCHITECTURALLY NOTABLE SEGMENT OF THE HISTORIC MOFFITT ROOT OF THE DENVER AND RIO GRANDE RAILROAD WHICH INCLUDES TWO TUNNELS ALSO CROSSES THE PROPERTY WITH THE UPPER TEENS TO PERFORM CULTURAL GEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SURVEYS UPON ACQUISITION IS ALSO LIKELY THAT OPENED WITH AN OPEN CAMPSITE WILL BE FOUND SIMILAR TO THE INVENTORY AMERICAN INDIAN ON SITES FOUND ON THE PROXIMATE JEWEL MOUNTAIN PROPERTY AMONG OTHER POTENTIAL PASSIVE RECREATIONAL USES THE LIP AND CUT RANCH PROPERTY OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER TO LINK JEFFERSON COUNTY'S COAL CREEK CANYON PARK AND THE PLANNED TRAIL SYSTEM TO EXISTING OPENS SPACE AMOUNT PARKS AND CW TRAILS AS VISION TO IN THE CITY'S ELDORADO MOUNTAIN DOWDY DRAW TRAIL

[66:00] STUDY AREA PLAN AND JEFFERSON COUNTIES OPEN SPACES MASTER PLAN THE PROPERTY ALSO INCLUDES THIS A SECRET CRAIG CLIMB INFORMATION WHICH CLIMBERS HAVE BEEN ACCESSING VIA ILLEGAL TRESPASS FOR YEARS ACQUISITION COULD ALLOW MANAGEMENT OF THIS FEATURE WITH ATTENTION PAID TO THE NESTING RAPTORS IN THE AREA. THE PROPERTY SIZE LOCATION AND SCENIC FEATURES MAKE IT APPEALING FOR ACCESS AND RECREATION SO CAREFUL COORDINATED MANAGEMENT CONSIDERATIONS WILL BE MADE TO BALANCE THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN USE AND ONGOING AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS AND PROTECTION OF THE SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES THE RANCH PROPERTY IS ALSO ACTIVELY USED FOR SEASONAL CATTLE GRAZING WHICH IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE VERSES IT VIA VIA AN AGRICULTURAL LEASE WITH THE CURRENT TENANT AFTER CLOSING THE LIVING COUNTRY AND PROPERTY HAS BEEN A HIGH PRIORITY FOR ACQUISITION BY BOTH OPEN SPACE AND JUSCO FOR DECADES AND IS IDENTIFIED IN THE GOALS RECOMMENDATIONS OBJECTIVES AND CRITERIA

[67:00] VARIOUS PLANNING DOCUMENTS INCLUDING I WAS MP ACQUISITION PLAN ELDORADO MOUNTAIN TRAIL STUDY AREA PLAN AS WELL AS JEFFERSON COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN THIS PRIORITIZATION SPEAKS TO HOW THE AGENCIES HAVE RECOGNIZED THE PROPERTY AS AN IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE CONTINUED QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITIES ACQUISITION WOULD ENSURE THE PROPERTY CANNOT BE DEVELOPED INTO THIRTY FIVE ACRE AND CHATS OR EVEN SMALLER RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND WOULD FURTHER PROTECT THE AESTHETIC ATTRIBUTES OF THE MOUNTAIN BACKDROP LANDSCAPE A PROPOSED LAND ACQUISITION IS NOT WITHOUT ITS TRANSACTIONAL COMPLEXITIES BUT ALSO REPRESENTS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANOTHER UNIQUE AND EXCITING PARTNERSHIP WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE IF APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED TONIGHT THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE ACQUIRED BY A BOULDER MUNICIPAL PROPERTY AUTHORITY FINANCING OVER TWENTY YEAR PERIOD IN A FIFTY FIFTY PARTNERSHIP WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY THE CITY AND COUNTY WILL THEN HAVE A SLIGHTLY SUB LEASE ARRANGEMENT AND WILL JOINTLY MANAGE THE PROPERTY

[68:00] DURING THE TWENTY YEAR PAYOFF AT THE END OF THE TWENTY YEARS THE PROPERTY WILL BE OWNED FIFTY FIFTY TWO AGENCIES THE SUB LEASE AND FIFTY PERCENT FEE TITLE CAN VANCE REPRESENT DISPOSABLES OR PROPERTY INTEREST REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED FOR PURPOSE EXCUSE ME APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL PURSUANT TO SECTION ONE SEVENTY SEVEN OF THE CHARTER PARTNERSHIP WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY FOR THIS ACQUISITION WILL BE GUIDED BY THE TERMS OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AS WELL AS FUTURE AGREEMENTS INCLUDING SUB LEASE AND JOINT MANAGEMENT PLANS. WHILE THIS IS THE MOST LIKELY AND DESIRABLE SCENARIO THE PROPOSE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL THIS EVENING ALLOW FOR THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CITY TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY WITH OR WITHOUT POMP OF FINANCING AND WITH OR WITHOUT PARTNERSHIP WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY. HOWEVER BOTH AGENCIES ARE QUITE EXCITED BY THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE MANAGE THIS PROPERTY AS PARTNERS AND BUILD ON RECENT COLLABORATIVE PROJECTS UPON ACQUISITION THE LIP IN CA TRANCE WILL REMAIN CLOSE TO THE AND MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH

[69:00] AN INTERIM MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IS EXECUTED THE TIME OF CLOSING DURING THE EXPECTED THREE YEAR TERM OF THE INTERIM MANAGEMENT PLAN IS ANTICIPATED THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE LEASED AGRICULTURAL TENANTS TO PROVIDE KHAN A CONTINUITY OF THE AGRICULTURAL OPERATION AND THAT STAFF WILL IDENTIFY AND IMPLEMENT ANY IMMEDIATE PROPERTY NEEDS SUCH AS ENFORCEMENT REQUIREMENTS FENCING AND SIGNAGE DURING THE FIRST THREE YEARS STAFF FROM BOTH AGENCIES WILL ALSO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO CARRY OUT RESOURCE ASSESSMENTS AND DEVELOP LONG TERM MANAGEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING PROPOSED USES OF THE PROPERTY ALL USES IMPROVEMENT AND MANAGEMENT PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY WILL HAVE TO BE JOINTLY AGREED UPON AND CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE CITY OF BOULDER'S CHARTER AND JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE IS ENABLING RESOLUTION AS WELL AS IN COMPLIANCE WITH POMPOUS FUNDING RESTRICTIONS AND I HAVE BEFORE YOU THAT MOTION LANGUAGE WHICH HAS BEEN AND THERE WERE A COUPLE GRAMMAR ISSUES IN THEM

[70:02] THE MOTION AND HOW NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN SUBSTANCE AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR OPEN IT UP TO THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WE HAVE TO QUESTION AND DO IN THE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS IN THE RAIN MIGHT ASK OUR GUESTS IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK SO I SENT THE HOTLINE QUESTION YESTERDAY AND I GUESS NOW AS YOU PRESENTED AT ANSWER IS IT SIMPLY FOR FLEXIBILITY. IT IS AS WE CONTINUE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WORK WITH THE LANDOWNER WORK WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO I HEAR YOU AGAIN WITH YOUR TIGHT SCHEDULE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE THAT WE HAVE APPROVAL EITHER WAY AND WE DO HAVE THE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THOSE FOUR SCENARIOS THINK THESE ARE JUST A MINUTE TO ADD THAT PRIOR TO MAYBE TWO THOUSAND E WE WERE DOING A LOT OF ACQUISITIONS WE DID THEM NORMALLY WITH TRUMPET NOTES SO IN THAT WAS COMMONLY THE PREFERRED OPTION TO BUY

[71:02] FOR THIS SELLER AND IT HAS ALLOWED US TO DO A LOT MORE THAN WE NORMALLY WOULD IF WE JUST PAID IT ALL OUT AT ONE TIME I HAVE A QUESTION TO ME THEY SHOULD NOT PUBLICLY BUT SURE RAIN OUT A POPULAR CLIMBING SITE THAT IS ACCESSED ILLEGALLY. WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE THREE YEARS WHILE WE DECIDE ABOUT ACCESS AT THAT POINT WE WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN HIM POUR SET AND OR MANAGE IT SO IT IS A CLOSE FOR YEARS ARE VERY LIKELY IT WILL BE COOL. IT WILL BE POSTED SIGNED AS AS CLOSED IN LAST HOUR IN LESS THAT INTERIM MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT WE HAVE PRIOR TO CLOSING IT IF WE WORK OUT THE MANAGEMENT OF THAT EARLY ON THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO HAVE AT LEAST THAT SEGMENT OF THE DISCOUNT RATE AND WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL GUESTS AND IF IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN SPACE TRACTOR FROM A NEIGHBORING COUNTY. IF YOU'D

[72:00] LIKE TO COMPOSE BECAUSE I AGREED AND ALSO FOR MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY WANT TO AS WELL GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS SOME REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND WERE REALLY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THIS WITH WITH O S M P WITH OIL AND COD FAMILY WE REALLY HAVE A TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY HERE TO REALLY CONTINUE THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING TOGETHER FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. KAO UP TO COMMUTE FOR THE AUDIENCE REMIND THEM UP FOR US. OH YES EXCUSE ME TOM O'BRIEN THE DIRECTOR OF OPEN SPACE FOR JEFFERSON COUNTY. THANK YOU OF JUST JUST A REMINDER OF SEVERAL THINGS WE WORK TOGETHER ON RECENTLY. THE ACQUISITION AND TRANSFER OF THE SECTION SIXTEEN PROPERTY TO ROCKY FLATS NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN GREENWAY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON TOGETHER WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER PARTNERS INCLUDING BOULDER COUNTY ARE

[73:01] ABOUT WESTMINSTER BROOMFIELD WE HAVE A QUITE A COLLABORATIVE REGIONAL OPEN SPACE ROUNDTABLE WERE SHARING INFORMATION WITH ALL THE ORGAN OPEN. OKOK OPEN SPACE ORGANIZATIONS FROM JEFFERSON ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE MURRAY COUNTY INCLUDING COLORADO PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND AUSTIN PEAY IS AN INTEGRAL PARTNER IN THAT AND THEN TOGETHER WITH C P W AND O S AND P WERE PLAYING FOR GREAT OUTDOORS COLORADO CONSERVATION EXCELLENCE GRANT SO THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING TOGETHER FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN ADD ANYTHING THAT DAN AND BETHANY HAVEN'T ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY HERE QUALITY OF THE PROPERTY OF THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE FINANCED HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER ON THIS I WILL JUST SAY THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT REALLY LEARNING FROM ONE ANOTHER ON

[74:00] BEING ABLE TO WORK ON THIS PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR TOGETHER AND THEN EXPANDING THAT WORK HIM LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN DO WHEN MORE LANDSCAPE SCALE CONSERVATION WORK WITH THE SYSTEM THE PUPPET HE SHOWED EARLIER ABOUT EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND ACRES OF WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR JUST KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT ALWAYS IS COLLABORATIVE IN THE PAST SO THIS IS E THEY WELCOME A PARTNERSHIP THERE IS SOMETHING SO MUCH FOR COMING AND I REALLY APPRECIATE JEFFERSON COUNTY STEPPING UP AND WORKING WITH THIS WITH US ON THIS PROPERTY IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. HOW DO YOU ENVISION CONDUCTING OF MANAGEMENT PLAN PROCESS COULD JOINTLY WITH HER AND I LAST STEP ARE STILL GOING STRONG AND THAT WE SEE THAT WORKING I WOULD ENVISION THAT WILL HAVE A TEAM OF OF FOLKS IS A SMALL TEAM OF FOLKS THOUGH WORK WITH LIKELY A SMALL TEAM OF FOLKS FROM O S M P COME

[75:01] TOGETHER HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS AND WORK SESSIONS TOGETHER FIELD VISITS AND TORIES ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND FURTHER UNDERSTAND MORE DEEPLY UNDERSTAND THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE A FAIRLY HIGH LEVEL UNDERSTANDING OF THAT FROM THE INFORMATION THAT BETHANY PROVIDER EARLIER WE NEED TO HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT SO I I SEE IT WORKING IN THAT WAY OBVIOUSLY WILL WORK THROUGH EXACTLY HOW BUT WITH THAT LOOK LIKE WITH AUSTIN PEAY STAFF WILL THAT INCLUDE OUTREACH AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS IS WELL CERTAINLY FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WOULD LIKE TO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WHAT WHAT SPECIFICALLY THAT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL NEED TO WORK THROUGH US AND BE GREAT. ONE OTHER QUESTION SO I KNOW THEM UNDERSTAND WITH COAL CREEK CANYON PARK YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY BUT DO SEE POTENTIAL FOR CONNECTIONS WITH THAT PARK IS THAT AS IT

[76:02] GETS OPENED. WE DO IT'S IMPORTANT TO US AND I THINK WE'RE REALLY IN THE SAME SITUATION THOUGH SNP IS THE WE BALANCE THE PROTECTION OF RESOURCES WITH PROVIDING ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY WHEN IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AND CONSERVATION WORK TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH LAND SO THAT THEY VALUE AND BECOME GOOD STEWARDS OF LAND TRAIL ACCESS AND SO FORTH AS IS MORE IN THE PRIMARY WAYS THAT WE DO THAT WE'D LIKE TO LOOK FOR FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE CONNECTIVITY WHERE WE HAVE THAT BALANCE GREAT TIME AND NICE TO HAVE YOU APPEAR TONIGHT. HOW AM I WAS JUST SKIN AND JUST FOLLOW UP WITH THEM. AARON'S COMMENT AND WE HAVE FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO ACRES OF PRETTY MUCH ON FRAGMENTED PROPERTY IN WHEN WE HAVE A TRAIN THAT GOES THROUGH THERE IN BUT WE ALSO

[77:00] HAVE ONE OF THE VALUES OF AND FRAGMENTED PROPERTIES HE HAVE THESE LARGE ELK HERD STATE GO FROM THE PEAK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE PLANE SINCE ONE OF THE FEW PLACES THAT THEY CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED AND THEN THERE'S MOUNTAIN LIONS AND THERE'S BEAR AND SO I GUESS I'M CURIOUS HOW AND I THINK I'M GOING INTO THE WEE BABY NOW BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ECOSYSTEM VALUES THOSE TREASURES AND FRAGMENTED LAND IS ALSO ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITHOUT RUINING THE QUALITY OF THE ECOSYSTEM. I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE THAT IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE HAVE FOR HER AND THE INVENTORY ANALYSIS OF THAT INFORMATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THEM AND WILL PROBABLY TELL US THE RESOURCES WILL PROBABLY TELL US WHERE THE BEST PLACES TO INTRODUCE PEOPLE ARE AND

[78:02] WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS WITH WITH AUSTIN PEAY IN I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THOSE WHO'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER. WELL IT WAS BEFORE TWO THOUSAND AND TEN MAYBE TWO THOUSAND AND NINE TWO THOUSAND EIGHT WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION AND SECTION SIXTEEN AND OUR RELATIONSHIP AS DRASTICALLY IMPROVED SINCE THE LATE NINETIES. UM AND UM I'M I'M SO PROUD AND SO EXCITED THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THIS IS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL INSET WE ALL TREASURE AND I THINK WORKING COLLABORATIVELY IN REGIONALLY IS REALLY THE WAY TO GO. THANK YOU AND I JUST WANT KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'VE BEEN A BIG PART IN AND STARTING THAT PROCESS OF COLLABORATION WITH SECTION SIXTEEN SO THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER MARCEL THINK YOU FOR COMING UP TO ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH THANK YOU DOES THE MEMBER OR REPRESENTATIVE

[79:01] OF THE FAMILY OR HER FRIEND WANNA COME UP SO WE CAN AT LEAST THANK UNIVERSITIES COMING UP I DO WANT TO CLARIFY TOO THAT ILLEGAL TRESPASS TO SEE HER CRAIG HAS OFTEN BEEN BY JUMPING THE RAILROAD AND SO WILL WE DO SO ANY MANAGEMENT OR OPENING UP THAT WE WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY NOT BY A RATHER EAT A GOOD EVENING I'M PADDLING THINK I'M THE DAUGHTER OF CHARLES AND SURELY BEEN KIND I MEAN THE FIFTH OF SIX GENERATIONS OF SCOTS HAD BEEN A PART OF THIS LAND AND MY MOTHER SAYS TO BETHANY AND EVERY SINGLE MEETING WE CONSIDER THIS HEAVEN ON EARTH SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR STEWARDSHIP UNDERSTANDING IT'S A TREASURE MY FAMILY HAS TREATED THIS THING WITH KID GLOVES FOR GENERATIONS AND IT WAS JUST THE RIGHT TIME TO LETTING IT CHANGE ITS STEWARDSHIP TO PEOPLE THAT CARE AND WE JUST REALLY ASK OVER THE NEXT FEW GENERATIONS TO TAKE AS GOOD A CARE THIS IS MY FAMILY DIDN'T THINK

[80:02] THE AI AI AI THIRD DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING WE DID WE DO NEED A HEARING THIS HE WENT AND WE HAVE ONE PERSON THEN SEAL THE SUPPORT OF THE UK WHEN SIEGEL THANK YOU FOR THAT OK WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE AIRING AND THEY MAKE A MOVIE HAVEN'T BEEN WAITING TWENTY YEARS SHOW. I AM SO HAPPY AND I REALLY THINK UM PET LIP AND CUT FRUIT COMING UP TONIGHT AND WE COMMIT TO KEEPING BEING GOOD STEWARDS TO MAKE THE MOTION. I MOVED TO APPROVE THE POTENTIAL FUTURE DISPOSAL OF THE FIFTY PERCENT UNDIVIDED INTEREST IN THE LIP AND CUT RANCH PROPERTY TO JEFFERSON COUNTY FOR OPEN SPACE PURPOSES CONSISTENT

[81:01] WITH AND PURSUANT TO ARTICLE TWELVE OF THE CITY OF BOULDER CHARTER AND THE JEFFERSON COUNTY OPEN SPACE ENABLING RESOLUTION AND CONSISTENT WITH THE TERMS OF AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOULDER AND JEFFERSON COUNTY. SECOND THE KNOW OR GIVE IT TO ME BY SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO PUT THIS TO END THIS IS LIKELY THAT THE LAST PUZZLE PIECES IN THE SOUTHERN LANDS AND UM IT ALL STARTED A JEFFERSON COUNTY WAS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THIS PROPERTY IN THAN IN THE NINETIES BUT THERE IS ALSO THIS ISSUE OF JEFFERSON CENTER THAT WAS GOING TO COME UP AND IT WOULD'VE DEVELOPED A TWENTY EIGHT SQUARE MILE COMMUNITY LARGER THAN BOULDER AND IT WOULD HAVE HAD A HUGE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR ECONOMY WE HAD FLAT IRONS BEING BUILT TO THE EAST AT

[82:00] THAT TIME IT WOULD HAVE PUT A HUGE TRANSPORTATION CRASH INTO A RESIDENCE IN SOUTH BOULDER AND IT WOULD'VE REALLY BEEN IN IS AN ASSAULT ON OUR LANDSCAPE ENVIRONMENT BOTH THE COUNTIES IN THE CITIES AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OVER THE LAST TWENTY YEARS WE'VE PUT TOGETHER EITHER JEFFERSON COUNTY OR THE CITY OF BOULDER AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE. WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER THIS INCREDIBLE SOUTHERN LANDS THAT ARE INCREDIBLE TREASURES TO OUR COMMUNITY IN WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHEN YOU GO TO WESTMINSTER OR YOU GO TO DENVER NEW LOOK BACK AT THAT MOUNTAIN BACKDROP AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN JUST MORE AND MORE HIGH RISES IN CITY AND INSTEAD WE SAID NO WERE DIFFERENT OUR VALUES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS AND FOR

[83:00] THE WILDLIFE THAT BELONGS HERE AND SO I'M I'M JUST SO HAPPY AND EXCITED AND PROUD TO HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT LEGACY TO HAVE PUT TOGETHER MULTIPLE PIECES OF PROPERTY AND THEN TO HAVE THIS WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFERSON COUNTY WE DID DO A STEALTH MOVE BACK IN NINETEEN NINETY NINE WHEN THAT IS VERY PROUD OF BUT AND IT RESULTED IN THAT POSITION INTO A MOUNTAIN AND THE BENTLEY PROPERTY OVER FIFTEEN HUNDRED ACRES AND IT WAS WELL WORTH THE INVESTMENT BUT I THINK UM JEFFERSON COUNTY I KNOW JEFFERSON COUNTY IN THE CITY OF BOULDER ARE COMPLETELY ALIGNED ON OPEN SPACE AND I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR FUTURE. I THINK WE HAVE TO FIX YOUR MOTION LIKE A FAMILY MATTER. I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID LISA I CAME OUT FROM A HIKE ON

[84:00] THE DAY THAT THAT STORY BROKE IN THE DAILY CAMERA. I REMEMBER PICKING UP THE DAILY CAMERA IN THE MORNING AND SEEING THAT HEADLINE GOING OH MY GOSH IT'S AWSOME BECAUSE THAT'S HUGE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS GOING TO GO AND BETWEEN COAL CREEK AND AND ELDORADO CANYON WAS NOW NOT A POSSIBILITY ANYMORE AND NOW THAT ALL OPEN LAND WE PRESERVED AND SO THAT WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE BUT IT WOULD LIKE TO OFFER FROM HIM INTO YOUR MOTION THAT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE YOU STARTED PARTWAY THROUGH I WOULD JUST SAVE IT WHO WOULD LIKE TO START THAT WITH APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF APPROXIMATELY FOUR HUNDRED AND FORTY TWO ACRES OF LAND AND MINERAL AND MODERATE CHARLES AND CHARLIE LIP AND CUT OR SEVEN POINT SEVEN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS FOR OPEN SPACE AND MOUNTAIN PARKS. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE ADD THAT BEFORE YOU SAID NO AND THAT'S JUST FINE I JUST WAS LISTENING TO BETHANY AND NINETY S BECAUSE I HAD THIS ALL READY TO GO AND READ AND THEN SHE SAID SO YOU CHANGE SOMETHING SAYING THERE'S JUST

[85:00] TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE NO THANK YOU THERE ARE TWO MOTIONS THAT ARE MUCH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SO TOO SO YEAH NO I SAID YOU'VE GOT IN THE NEARBY DURING A SPEECH AND INCITING HAVE TO LET THE SECOND. IF YOU'RE NEXT I HEARD HER SAY NO I'M THRILLED THIS IS OUTSTANDING SO LOVE BEING A PART OF US. LIKEWISE I AM AS WELL AND I AM REALLY DELIGHTED TO SEE THE EMPHASIS BEING PLACED ON TIME AND THE DEPTH OF THE RESOURCE ASSESSMENT BEFORE THE USE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MADE. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO RESPECT WHAT THE LIVING GOD FAMILY HAS DONE HERE AND CARRY THAT FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE AND IT'LL BE REALLY FUN AND INTERESTING TO LEARN WHAT KINDS OF THINGS YOU'RE ABLE TO FIND OUT IN THE RESEARCH STUDIES TO THANK YOU ALL AND LET ME JUST UNDERSCORE AGAIN MY THANKS TO THE LIVING CUT FAMILY FOR

[86:02] ENTRUSTING US WITH YOUR BABY AND TAKING CARE OF IT NOT TO HAVE THE SO THE GOOD FOLKS READ ABOUT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IT IS UNANIMOUS. I GET AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE NEXT ITEM IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THREE ELEVEN MABEL TO

[87:26] . A GREAT DESK HE LOADED THE PROGRAM I DON'T SIT UP THERE WHERE WE I AGREE THE REIGN OF US WHO ARE LOOKING AT PICTURES OF THE LIVING GOD THE WRITING OF MARIN COUNCIL. I'M JIM ROBERTSON DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HOUSING AND SUSTAINABILITY WERE HERE OF

[88:01] COURSE FOR THREE ITEMS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT SITE REVIEW USE FOR REVIEW AND A PROPOSED REZONING OF THE ACADEMY ON MAPLETON HILL ARE LONG SERVING STAFF MEMBER WHO WILL GUIDE YOU WHO WILL LEAD YOU THROUGH A SORT OF BRIEF SUMMARY PRESENTATION TONIGHT BOTH TO REFRESH YOUR RECOLLECTION FROM ABOUT A MONTH AGO WHEN THE HEARING WAS HELD BUT ALSO JUST TO ALSO WALK YOU TO A LITTLE BIT OF SORT OF OUR RECOMMENDED SORT OF CONSIDERATIONS AND PROCEDURES BASED UPON THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT GUIDES DECISION MAKING HERE BUT BEFORE HE TURNED OVER TO ELAINE I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DAVID GEFFEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HE HAS JUST A FEW WORDS OF OF ADVISEMENT ON SOME OF THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF YOUR WORK TONIGHT SO WITH THAT DAVID

[89:01] BAER THANK YOU GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. YOU HAVE FOR DECISIONS TO MAKE TONIGHT THERE'S ONE SITE REVIEW TO USE REVIEWS AND WON REZONING DECISIONS THAT YOU WILL MAKE TONIGHT ARE QUITE A JUDICIAL IN NATURE. THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE SITTING IN THE PLACE OF A JUDGE RATHER THAN AS A LAWMAKER WHICH IS YOUR USUAL RESPONSIBILITY. THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE HAS SOME RIGHTS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY THE DUE PROCESS CLAUSE OF THE FIFTH AND FOURTEENTH AMENDMENTS OF OUR US CONSTITUTION THE APPLICANT HAS IT HAS A RIGHT TO A DECISION THAT IS BASED ON CRITERIA THAT IS IN PLACE AT THE TIME HAS THE APPLICATION WAS FILED THIS IS A CONCEPT OF FUNDAMENTAL FAIRNESS THE DECISION MAKING BODY EXCUSE ME CANNOT MAKE UP THE RULES MIDSTREAM AS A JUDGE MUST BE FAIR IMPARTIAL AND MUST BASE YOUR DECISION ON THE EVIDENCE THAT IS PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE HEARING HAND IN THE ENTIRE RECORD THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL AS YOU KNOW YOUR DECISION MUST BE BASED ON THE CRITERIA

[90:00] APPLICABLE TO EACH DECISION THAT ARE FOUND IN THE BOULDER REVISED CODE STAFF HAS EXPLAINED ITS ANALYSIS IN ITS MEMORANDUM AND IN AND AT THE LAST HEARING STAFF WILL SUMMARIZE THAT ANALYSIS AGAIN PRAISE YOU FOR YOUR DELIBERATIONS NIGHT AFTER A FEW MINUTES IF YOU FIND THAT THE CRITERIA ARE MET YOU MUST APPROVE THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IF YOU DECIDE THAT THE CRITERIA ARE NOT MET. YOU MAY DENY THE APPLICATION OR YOU MAY APPROVE THE APPLICATION SUB SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT ARE NECESSARY TO BRING THE APPLICATION INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE REVIEW CRITERIA AND CONDITIONS ONLY MAY BE IMPOSED IF THE CONDITION IS NECESSARY TO BRING AN APPLICATION INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE BOLD REVISED CODE AND APPLICABLE REVIEW CRITERIA AND FINALLY THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND UPON ANYTHING WHICH

[91:00] THE DECISION MAKER MAY ROLL BRAILLE FOR A LIE. THUS IT IS IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF YOU BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVEAL EXPORT A COMMUNICATION SO YOU MAY HAVE HAD SINCE THE LAST APPLICATION STAFF HAS BANNED FORWARDING THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE THAT IS COMING TO THE GENERAL TO THE GENERAL CITY COUNCIL EMAIL ADDRESS TO THE APPLICANT SO YOU DON'T NEED TO REVEAL ANY EXPERT ERIC MEDICATIONS THAT MAY HAVE COME AS PART OF THE GROUP EMAIL SYSTEM THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE AFRICAN EARLIER TODAY I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT MAY WANT TO MAKE AN OFFER OF A DONATION TO THE CITY I WOULD ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD ADDRESS THAT REQUEST TO YOU DIRECTLY RATHER THAN FILTERING IT THROUGH ME SO

[92:00] YOU MAY GIVE THE APPLICANT A FEW MINUTES TO PRESENT THAT AT THIS POINT I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DISCLOSE ANY PART A COMMUNICATIONS THAT THEY ARE PERCEIVED SIN SAUCE HEARING ON THIS MATTER WE JUST STARTED ONE AND NONE OTHER THEN EMAILS NONE OTHER THAN DISPOSE OF THE STRING AND DID HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE TRY TO TALK TO SHUT THEM DOWN RIGHT AWAY THE SAME AS ME I STARTED TO STOP THE NINE THE NUMBER EXCEPT FOR THE LAST MEETING WITH ONE EXCEPTION I DID HAVE A SHORT CONVERSATION WITH NANCY CORN BOIL THEM AND WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE PARKING LOT LOCATION THAT WOULD BE USED POTENTIALLY BY PEOPLE ON THE WEEKENDS AND DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING THAT'S NOT

[93:00] ALREADY IN THE RECORD EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN THE RECORD ARE RIGHT. THEY MET WITH THE THINGS HE MENTIONED THAT CONDITIONS CAN ONLY BE IMPOSED IF NECESSARY TO TO UM TO BRING THE APPLICATION WITHIN COMPLIANCE OF THE CRITERIA ASSUME THAT CONDITIONS CAN ALSO BE IMPOSED IF THEY ARE JOINTLY AGREED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY IS THE TRUE KNOW OUR CHARTERED OUR PRACTICE IS THAT THE ANY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND I THINK THAT THIS IS FRANKLY A MATTER OF STATE LAWS WELL THEY SHOULD BE BASED ON STANDARDS THAT ARE SUFFICIENTLY CLEAR THAT THEY CAN BE APPLIED A CONSISTENT MANNER AND THAT'S MORE OR LESS THE LANGUAGE FROM THE REGULATORY IMPAIRMENT OF PROPERTY RIGHTS ACT BUT I THINK ONE THING THAT ELAINE'S GOING TO GET INTO ASTOR TWO

[94:00] IS TO EXPLAIN HOW THINGS LIKE COMMUNITY BENEFIT RELATE TO BOULDER VALLEY COMP PLAN PRINCIPLES AND SO WE WILL MAYBE DELVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO THAT ONE WEEK AFTER YOU GO TO YOUR HSE OK THE NUANCES ARE SOME NUANCES AND THEN WE WE ALL NEED TO FULLY APPRECIATE BUT OKAY OKAY BUT THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE ABOUT WHAT BUT I JUST SAID THAT IF YOU RESPOND TO THAT. NO OKAY GO AHEAD AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE ALONG BUT I'LL PROBABLY MAYBE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW YOUR GUIDANCE APPLIES IN A CERTAIN CASE LIKE FOR INSTANCE THERE'S A REQUEST AND MULTIPLE BUILDINGS TO GO ABOVE THE BY RIGHT HEIGHT LIMIT AND SO WE KNOW WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISALLOW DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO REFUSE THE APPLICATION IF THERE WERE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS THAT WE

[95:00] YOU KNOW DIDN'T MEET STATE REVIEW CRITERIA BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT CORRECTED YOU KNOW THE I MEAN YOU HIT IT HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD. I MEAN IT'S YOU AND YOUR DISCRETION DETERMINED THAT ANY INCREASE IN HEIGHT WAS INAPPROPRIATE THAT WOULD BE THAT KIND OF THING THAT YOU WOULD CONDITION FOR YOU AND THAT YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE PROJECT YOU WOULD SAY THE APPLICANT SHALL AT SOME POINT BRING BACK DOES YOU KNOW DESIGNS THAT BRING ALL THE BUILDINGS WITHIN SAY THE THIRTY FIVE FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT ON THE NEXT PARTY I WOULD ASK A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE AFRICAN TEAM TO APPROACH. AND I GUESS MY FIRST IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COUNCIL. I'M GARY BURGE ON THE MANAGING PARTNER OF THE ACADEMY RETIREMENT UP ON THE HILL AND

[96:00] A PARTNER IN THE THREE ELEVEN MIDDLETON APPLICANT GROUP AND IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IN TERMS OF INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF THE CONTEXT OF THE HEARING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT OR FAIR HER PROVIDE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO THE SETTLEMENT OR INNOCENCE OFFER A DONATION AS DAVID HAD MENTIONED EARLIER WE JUST FINISHED THIS PART FOR OUR STORY AND THEN YOU BECOME A SOURCE OF THE QUESTION FOR THE FIRST PART IS IS THAT YOU HAD PEOPLE REVEAL THEIR EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS. SO I'M OFFERING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND OR ABOUT TEN PEOPLE I SEE NO WE'RE FINE NOW. AT THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE PERCEIVE ALL OF YOU DEAL WITH THIS MORE THAN I DO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES SOMETHING THAT IS RELATIVELY NEW TO ME BUT NOT TO MY PARTNERS AND IT WAS CLEAR

[97:00] FROM HOTLINE SERIES OF QUESTIONS YESTERDAY THAT A NUMBER OF ISSUES HAD A REASON AND ONE AND ONE AS THIS ISSUE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE IN THE WAY OF MAKING SURE THAT PROMISES THAT ARE MADE ARE HONORED AND THE LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU. I SIMPLY SAID WE HAVE A LONG TRACK RECORD THAT I THINK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF BUT YOU KNOW WE LIVE IN STRANGE TIMES OF TO SAY THE LEAST AND SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND MET WITH OUR ATTORNEYS AND SAID WHAT CAN WE DO BECAUSE IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION AND I KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS LAW NOW THAT I DID TWO DAYS AGO BUT OUR ATTORNEYS ADVISED US THAT WE COULD DO IS OFFER YOU. AFTER HAVING NOT BEEN REQUESTED BY ANY OF YOU ARE IN ESSENCE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH RESPECT TO THE FAR OFF PROPERTY AND WE HAVE THAT WE HAVE IT SIGNED A NOTARIZED AND BASICALLY ASSURES THAT THE UNITS DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY WILL

[98:00] BE A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE IN PERPETUITY THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE DELIVERED ACTUALLY HAVE A COPY NOW. THAT IS SIGNED BUT UNFORTUNATELY ATTORNEY HADN'T TAKEN OFF THE DRAFT LITTLE THING IN THE BACKGROUND SO WE'RE HAVING THAT REPRINTED WITHOUT THE DRAFT BUT WE HAVE A SIGNED COPY NOW AND AGAIN HAVE TO GET A RESIGNED WITHOUT THE DRAFT BUT BASICALLY IT'S SOMETHING WE ARE DELIVERING TO YOU TONIGHT AND DAVID CAN REVIEW IT BASICALLY CAN RECORD IT TOMORROW IT WILL GO OVER RECORD AGAINST THE PRO OFF PROPERTY AND THEREBY RESTRICT THAT PROPERTY SUCH THAT THE UNITS BUILT THERE WILL BE PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN WHICH THAT COVENANT DISAPPEARS AND THAT IS THE EXTENT THAT THE THREE ELEVEN AM ABLE TO PROJECT ISN'T APPROVED BECAUSE THAT'S OUR CROSSES ARE RECEIVING SITE AND ITS INTENDED THAT THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND SO WE SAID OK WHY WE DO THAT YOU MIGHT ASK WHY HASN'T ANYBODY DONE THIS BEFORE AND AS I UNDERSTAND

[99:02] THAT THE NUANCED ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT YOU CAN'T ASK US FOR THIS TO BE REALLY CLEAR THAT NOBODY HAS ASKED FOR IT WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND INSIDE. HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AS COMFORTABLE AS YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS THAT MINNICK IN LARGE PART OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ALREADY WITH RESPECT TO THE ROB'S MUSIC SITE ON THIRTIETH STREET WHICH MY PARTNERS ARE INVOLVED IN THERE THERE'S MONEY INVOLVED FROM YOU FOLKS AND THERE'S NO MONEY INVOLVED IN THIS SITUATION SO THAT PORTION OF THOSE DOCUMENTS HAS BEEN REMOVED BUT WE'VE MET ARE THE DOCUMENTS FOR THAT PURPOSE I WOULD JUST ADD WERE ALSO OPEN TO WHATEVER ELSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO WE INTEND TO BUILD A HUNDRED AFFORDABLE UNITS THERE AND WE ARE PUTTING OUR LEGAL DOCUMENTS WERE HIS AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO WE'RE GLAD TO DO IT. THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN COME UP WITH THANK YOU FOR

[100:03] GOING A FEW QUESTIONS. OK BOB AND JILL. THUS THERE WAS WILLFUL. WHEN YOU ANTICIPATE YOU MIGHT SUBMIT YOUR SITE REVIEW APPLICATION FOR THE FROST ROBBERY SATURDAY WHEN LAST WEEK WAS OVER ALREADY AND SEVERAL PEOPLE OK THANKS. AND COMPARED TO MABEL TO IT SO MUCH SIMPLER PROJECT AND SO OUR SENSES THAT THE TIMING ON THE TWO PROJECTS COULD COME INTO ALIGNMENT PRETTY QUICKLY BUT PROBABLY MOST PROJECTS ARE SIMPLER COMPARED TO THREE ELEVEN VICTIMS. THANKS CARRIE FOR OFFERING THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO BECOME THE MODEL FOR OTHERS HE SAID THE ONLY CONDITION IN WHICH THE WAYS OF THIS IS NOT APPROVED I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN TODAY BUT IF YOUR PROJECT IS SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE FROM WHAT SUBMITTED DOES THIS STILL STAND DO HAVE A CUTOFF POINT AT WHICH TO ME UNITS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY OR WELL I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE DON'T WE ARE INTERESTED IN PERMANENTLY COMMITTING FOR OFFICE NOW WITHOUT HAVING ANY APPROVAL

[101:00] AND SEE THAT THERE'S NO SENSE IN UNCOVERING THE PROPERTY UNTIL SUCH TIME AS IT'S AVAILABLE TO SERVE THE PURPOSES INTENDED WHICH IS TO PROVIDE A PORTION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT WITH RESPECT TO THREE LEAD MIDDLETON SAME YEAR HE HAD ALSO SPOKEN AT THE LAST HEARING ABOUT ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE UNITS ON SITE SO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS A UNIT TO CRACK RAP NEWS THE COVENANT THE YOU'VE JUST GIVEN IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THOSE A UNIT IS JUST ABOUT THE PROFS PROBABLY RIGHT IT'S TRUE WE'RE STILL DOING IT ON SITE AND IT'S JUST ABOUT COMMITTING ON THE UP CYCLE ONE COULD GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION WHICH IS COMING NOT FROM APPLETON AND WE STARTED ON THIS. WE'VE HAD A FEW HOURS TODAY TO DO IT AND BASICALLY MELTED A LOT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE ONE THING TO SAY THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE BUT TO PUT A COVER NON THAT SAYS EIGHT. WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDE WHICH EIGHT. IT'S MUCH EASIER TO JUST SAY IT'S ALL MY

[102:00] RECOLLECTION FROM LAST HEARING IS THAT YOU HAD DESIGNATED THOSE EIGHT IN YOUR PRINTS THAT WE GOT THE OKAY SO SO THERE IS SOME RECORDING THAT YOU INTEND TO DO AFFORDABLE UNITS IN MAPLETON. IT'S JUST NOT THIS COVENANT BUSINESS BUT IT'S PART OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNING UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NO SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS IN SIGHT REVIEW WEEK WE CAN MAKE ANY DETERMINATION OF WHAT THE INCLUSION AIRY HOUSING AND HOW THAT WILL BE MET HAVING SAID THAT THE PLANS TO REFLECT EIGHT UNITS LABELED AS PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE ON THE PLAN SAID DAVID DEVANEY FAR TOO MUCH NO NO I THINK THAT THAT'S CORRECT AND YOU KNOW BASICALLY YOU KNOW OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT TO BE THERE NOT DIRECTLY REGULATED THROUGH THE SITE REVIEW PROCESS. THERE ARE REGULATED THROUGH A PROCESS THAT IS ALL LAID OUT IN THE BORDER

[103:01] REVISED CODE PROVIDES PROPERTY OWNERS WITH A VARIETY OF OPTIONS AND IS ADMINISTERED BY CITY STAFF RATHER THAN COURTS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE RESERVE FOR IDEA FOR REASONS THAT I COULD GO INTO AS TO WHY IT'S STRUCTURED THAT WAY BUT THERE IS A LOGIC BEHIND THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED AND WHAT QUESTION DID COME TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF US WHETHER THEIR PRESENCE OR WHETHER THEY'RE ARMED. TRAVEL DEMAND MANAGEMENT PLANS OR WHATEVER THAT WE APPROVE THAT'S A GREAT VIEW. THOSE CAN ONLY HAVE MINOR MODIFICATIONS FROM THERE FORWARD IS THAT CORRECT SO IN OTHER WORDS I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF THE EIGHT DESIGNATED UNITS ARE DESIGNATED AFFORDABLE TO THAT HAVING ANY EVEN MINOR BINDING POWER. NO I THINK IT'S JUST A REPRESENTATION OF THE APPLICANT FOR ME IN TERMS OF REGULATORY BINDING REGULATORY EFFECT WITH REGARD TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING I WOULD SAY DOES NOT HAVE A

[104:00] BINDING REGULATORY EFFECT THANK YOU THOSE THE CAN THIS YEAR GOES AWAY WE MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS LATER THANK YOU YET THE VAR MER THE EYE. THE COUNCIL RECEIVED A HOTLINE COUNCIL LETTER YESTERDAY FROM THE SANITIZER GROUP ASKING THAT IF THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE MEANING MEETING THAT THEY BE ABLE TO HAVE EQUAL ACCESS AND SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH TOTALLY NEW AND THEY MAY HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEY HAVE WORKED LONG AND HARD ON THIS THIS ISSUE AND BROUGHT MANY FACTS FOR YOU AND YOURS A COPY OF THE LETTER I WOULD ASK THAT THEY BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK AS WELL ARE SOME REPRESENTATIVE FROM THEIR GROUP BE ABLE TO

[105:02] SPEAK IN RESPONSE TO THAT NEW LOOK AT MAYBE A CLIFF. I THINK WE'RE ONLY HAVING APPLICANTS BECAUSE WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE THERE ARE MENDING A PROPOSAL THAT'S CORRECT SO THERE IS THAT WHEN THERE IS THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT STATE CASE LAW ON DUE PROCESS RIGHTS. ITS DUE PROCESS RIGHTS COAST WORDS PROPERTY OWNERS. SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S WHAT WE COULD IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE COME AND SPEAK TO THEM YES. OKAY MAYBE I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WAY IS AND LETS EVERYBODY ON THE STORY MIND EVERYBODY ON TV LAND THAT WE HAD A VERY EXTENSIVE HEARING IN THE PAST THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT. RECENTLY THREE WEEKS AGO BEFORE GOING ON BREAK AND SO WE'RE NOT HAVING ANOTHER ONE TONIGHT SO THAT'S THE CASE I WASN'T TRACKING THAT BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT

[106:00] WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF REPRESENTATIVES MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT I AND DAVID SINCE THIS IS NEW INFORMATION I WOULD THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING I JUST WONDERED IF THE SOMEONE FROM THE SENATE HOUSE GROUP WANTED TO COMMENT ON THIS THING ON THIS QUESTION THAT IS THE QUESTION JUST ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE NEW PART OF HIS HOME RACE THE PROPOSAL OK WELL I THINK THIS MAKES IT SEEM LIKE THE SUN A TEST GROUP REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WHICH ISN'T TRUE AT ALL. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LET ONE GROUP OF CITIZENS SPEAK I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT OPENED UP TO EVERYONE THAT WIND BUT NO ONE WAS ALERTED TO THAT LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCESS THE LIMB HERE SO I WONDER TO SEE MAYBE THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IS IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR PERSON THAT YOU FEEL HAS WITH YOUR PRODUCT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET THERE THEIR FEEDBACK ON THIS

[107:00] PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT WAS JUST BROUGHT UP THAT MAYBE THAT SO AS OPPOSED TO A GROUP THAT RATE SO THAT OTHERS COULD DO THE SAME BUT IN OTHERS COULD BUT I WILL BE REALLY ASKED US TO LIMIT AND NOT HAVE ONCE BEATEN EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GIVE THE SPEECH THAT WORK SO IT WAS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL CAN ASK FOR A SPECIFIC PERSON IS TO COME UP TO ANSWER A QUESTION DOES THAT WORK IN ANY MEMBER NOT JUST THIS ONE YET TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT THIS TO QUESTIONS FROM QUESTION TO THIS NEW INFORMATION AND WILL REOPEN THE APPLICATION. YES I MEAN THIS IS TOTALLY NEW TO ME I WOULD THINK THAT TO THE LARGER AND AGAIN IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S SO NEW THAT IT MAY BE WORTH HAVING ANOTHER HEARING OKAY SAID IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TELL US

[108:02] THAT EVERYBODY'S AND NO ONE DISAGREES WITH THAT. OK THEN WE WATCHED THAT HAPPEN NOW AND THEN WILL WE ACTUALLY HOW ABOUT WE WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION TO GET TO QUESTIONS AND MAYBE HAVE THAT HAPPEN NOW GIVE WHOEVER THINKS THEY'LL BE CHOSEN LITTLE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT ON AS WELL THAT WORKED. YES THANK YOU. OK THANKS VERY MUCH ELAINE MCLAUGHLIN TIME CASE MANAGER ON THE APPLICATIONS AND I KNOW COUNCIL REQUESTED JUST A BRIEF RECAP OF THE PROPOSAL AND THE CRITERIA SAUL GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BUT AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW ON TO THIS EXISTING SITE THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY WITH A NUMBER OF NEW BUILDINGS AND EACH HOUSE HAS VARYING NUMBERS OF UNITS ALONG WITH THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. OVERALL A TOTAL OF NINETY FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE PROPOSED ALONG WITH SUB ACUTE REHAB FACILITY WITH

[109:00] FORTY TWO BEDS AND A WARM WATER THERAPY POOL ALLOWED DENSITY ON THE SITE SIX POINT TWO TO USE PER ACRE WHICH ON THIS FIFTEEN POINT SEVEN SEVEN ACRE SITE EQUATES TO NINETY SEVEN UNITS THIS CASE THE APPLICANT IS COUNTING EACH OF THOSE INDEPENDENT LIVING UNITS BOTH THE COTTAGES AND THE ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS ONE UNIT AND THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING A BONUS DENSITY BONUS PER SE OF THREE TO ONE UNDER THE DWELLING UNIT OF AN EQUIVALENCY STANDARDS RESIDENTIAL UNITS SUCH AS THE MEMORY CARE THAT ARE WITHOUT KITCHENS CAN HAVE A RATIO OF FIVE UNITS EQUALS ONE DWELLING UNIT SO THERE FOR A TOTAL OF NINETY FIVE DWELLING UNITS ARE PROPOSED YES WHEN I LOOK AT THE PARCEL INTERVIEW CAN SHOW THAT APPEAR THE CURRENT PARCEL THERE'S ABOUT TWO ACRES OF NON RESIDENTIAL AND THERE'S MEDICAL USES. SO COULD YOU

[110:04] ADDRESS HOW AND END THOSE MEDICAL USES ARE GOING TO REMAIN SO HOW DO YOU TAKE THE WHOLE FIFTEEN POINT SEVEN ACRES AND TRANSLATE THAT TWO PIECE NUMBER OF TOILING UNITS WHEN TWELVE OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY OVER. I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE DOUBLE COUNTING ON MOST. WELL THIS IS THIS STANDARD PRACTICE. IF IT'S IN A FLOOR AREA RATIOS SUCH AS F A R THEN WE WOULD DEDUCT THE FLOOR AREA THAT'S COVERED BY THOSE PARTICULAR BUILDINGS. HOWEVER ITS LOT AREA PER DWELLING UNIT. SO IN THIS CASE THE LOTTERIES FIFTEEN POINT SEVEN SEVEN ACRES BUT THE LOTS ARE OCCUPIED BY NON RESIDENTIAL SO AND AND WE DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT UNLESS THERE'S A FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE PUBLIX ON THERE'S NO FLOOR AREA RATIO. SO OKAY AND SO WOULD THERE BE IN RESIDENT

[111:01] IN RL ONE ESTABLISHED THERE IS THERE IS A FLOOR AREA RATIO AND I DID SOME CALCULATIONS AND IT WORKS OUT TO BE ROUGHLY THE SAME YOU MIGHT LOSE ONE OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. IF YOU WERE TO SUB DIVIDE THEM FOR WHO THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T MEET LOT STANDARDS AND YOU CAN'T HAVE CONGREGATE CARE IN RESIDENTIAL OH RIGHT SO WELL I GUESS I'LL JUST HOLD MY QUESTION TODAY I STILL AM HAVING BECAUSE I CAME THROUGH THE TERRORISTS WHATEVER THAT PROPERTY IS CALLED THE THING TO THE NORTH ACADEMY TO THE NORTH RAILROAD STATE TRAIL WOULD HAVE REVEALED TO THE TRAILHEAD AND SOME THAT CAME IN MY RECOLLECTION WAS AS P BUT WE WENT FORWARD AND MATED RL BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WAS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. SO I GUESS I'M THAT

[112:00] SAME KINDNESS LET THIS ONE TO COME BACK TO A STUDY AT THE VERY BEGINNING HOW YOU GET ALL THIS . SO JUST LEAVE IT THERE SIR SIR AND AGAIN ARE ALL ONE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS APPROPRIATE THAT CONTEXT THIS IS INTENDED AS CONGREGATE CARE SO THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU THEN AND WE CAN GET INTO SOME OF THE LAND USE AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RATE REZONING CRITERIA SO WITH REGARD TO THE TWO SMALL PARCELS THAT ARE JASON TO FOURTH STREET THE CRITERIA REQUIRES CONSISTENCY THE REZONING WITH THE POLICIES AND GOALS OF THE COP LAND BUT ONLY IF IT CAN MEET ONE OF SIX REZONING CRITERION IN THIS CASE IT'S INTENDED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES. SO THESE ARE THESE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS AND FOR THE REASON YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY SEE WHERE IT ISN'T IN A WHITE DASHED OUTLINED THEIR ZONE FOR THE LAND USE UNDER THEM IS

[113:00] BUT THEY'RE ZONED R L ONE AND THOUSANDS THE REST THE SITE WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT OH SO AND THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THAT REZONING REQUEST THE DEFINITION OF SEMI LAND IS THAT IT ENCOMPASSES A WIDE RANGE OF AND PRIVATE NON PROFIT USES THAT ALSO AND THIS IS IMPORTANT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES FOR OTHER USES AS ALLOWED BY ZONING IN THIS CASE IT'S CONGREGATE CARE SO AS YOU'LL NOTE FOR THE MAP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE EXISTING ZONING FOR THOSE AREAS ARE ALL ONE. THE SONICS CONSIDERED INCONSISTENT WITH BOTH THOSE EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICES AND THE PROPOSE CONGREGATE CARE WHICH ISN'T PERMITTED IN OUR OWN ONE SO THEREFORE IN THIS CASE RESIDING IN THESE PROPERTIES TO A STONING IN THE ALLOWANCE OF CONGREGATE CARE THREE USE REVIEW TO LOOK AT IMPACTS OF THE CONGREGATE CARE WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE COP PLAN SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LAND USE CODE CLEARLY INDICATES THAT EACH

[114:00] ZONING DISTRICT IS PERMITTED ESSENTIALLY A PREDOMINANT USE BUT THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED TO USE REVIEW IF FOUND APPROPRIATE IN THAT LOCATION THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE USE REVIEW ANALYSIS IS ALL ABOUT THAT WE'VE ALL LOOKED UP. SO IN GENERAL THOSE PIECE OF LAND USES INCLUDE BI RATE USES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY INSTITUTIONAL IN NATURE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED THROUGH THE USE REVIEWING THOSE INCLUDE BOTH CONGREGATE CARE AND THEN PARKING IS A PRINCIPAL USE AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CONGREGATE CARE WOULD HAVE PRETTY SIMILAR INSTITUTIONAL CHARACTERISTICS TO SOME OF THOSE OTHER BY RIGHT USE ISN'T PROVIDE HUMAN SERVICES SIMILAR TO THOSE USES THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT AS WELL AS OFFERING SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BE OPEN TO THE THE REZONING ALSO MUST BE ON BALANCE A BROAD SPECTRUM

[115:00] OF COP AND GOALS AND POLICIES IN THAT REGARD THE COMP PLAN INDICATES THAT THE LAND USE DESIGNATION SHOULD BE USED AS A GUIDE FOR FUTURE ZONING AND THAT'S THIS CASE OF GOING TO THE VERSUS THE LAND USE GOING TO RL ONE IS SO SPECIFIC POLICIES INCLUDE THE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THE BLUE LINE IS WELL ABOVE THE SITE AND MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS MIDDLE OF THE SITE TO THE LOWER PART OF THE SITE OF THE MIXTURE OF HOUSING THE REZONING TO PEE WILL PERMIT A CREATIVE RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES THAT ARE ALL ONE AND THAT OF COURSE INCLUDES THE CONGREGATE CARE AS WE'VE SAID AND THEN IN THE END IT HELPS TO ADDRESS THAT NEED IF THE GROWING POPULATION OF OLDER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS NOTED IT'S IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THAT BENEFIT THE THAT INCLUDES THE WARM WATER THERAPY POOL

[116:00] THE TRAILS WE CAN PARKING ACCESS TO ENTER THE SITE ACCESS TO GUEST LECTURES AS OCCURS TODAY AT THE ACADEMY ON THE AND THEN CONSISTENT WITH THE SECOND USE REVIEW CRITERION THE PROJECT FOSTER SPECIFIC POLICIES FOR GROUP LIVING ARRANGEMENTS AND SPECIAL POPULATIONS IN THIS CASE SENIOR SERVICES THAT ASSIST WITH CHANGING ABILITIES OVER TIME SO THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION DINING HOUSEKEEPING AND ORGANIZE SOCIAL ACTIVITIES AND IT MAY BE THAT OVER TIME. SOME FOLKS WOULD WANT MORE OF THOSE USES THAN OTHERS SO CONSISTENT WITH A THIRD REVIEW CRITERION THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THIS USES COMPATIBLE IN THE CONTEXT GIVEN THAT THE PROPOSALS IN THE SAME LOCATION AS A LARGE PRIVATELY OWNED HOSPITAL AND MEDICAL CENTER THAT EXISTED ON A SITE FOR DECADES WITH ESSENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF PATIENTS AND EMPLOYEES TRANSITION OR CARE BASED RESIDENTIAL USE WITH NINETY FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS

[117:01] AND FORTY TWO BED REHABILITATION CENTER WOULD BE A MORE COMPATIBLE USE. SO LIKEWISE WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ARE THE INTERFACE OF THIS PROJECT AND WHERE IT INTERFACES WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE ALONG FOURTH STREET. THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON FOR ST THE USE OF THE INDEPENDENT LIVING COTTAGES THESE INDEPENDENT LIVING COTTAGES THAT ARE SEPARATE LITTLE COTTAGES ARE INTENDED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT RESPONSE TO BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD COMMENTS BOTH THE CONCEPT PLAN REVIEW AND SITE REVIEW AND IT ALSO RESPONDS TO BBC POLICIES THE TALK ABOUT A WELL DESIGNED BUILDING OR LANDSCAPING AND NOT PARKING LOTS AS EXISTS TODAY ADDRESSED THE ROUTE FOR THE SITE REVIEW CRITERIA NOW SAYS AND CONSISTENCY TO LAND USE MAP WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE OTHER AND IT WAS CONCLUDED IN APRIL THAT

[118:00] IT'S NOT A MAPPING ERROR ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION XIN TO INDICATE THAT THE LONG TERM USE OF THE LAND. HIS PLAN TO SERVE ONE OR MORE OPEN SPACE FUNCTIONS AND SO IN THAT REGARD THE STAFF O S M P IN PARTICULAR LOOKED AT THE OPEN SPACE VALUES ON THE SITE AND DETERMINED THAT SPECIFICALLY A LOWER AREA PARKING LOT PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED THE DEFINITION OR DEFINED PURPOSE OF OPEN SPACE THAT INCLUDES NATURAL AREA'S GEOLOGIC FORMATIONS FOR A FINE ETC AND SPECIFICALLY THAT LOWER PARKING LOT DOESN'T REALLY PRESERVE WATER RESOURCES. IT'S NOT A SCENIC AREA OF MR. WILDLIFE HABITAT AS DEFINED IN THAT OPEN SPACE PURPOSE. SO IN THAT REGARD IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OPEN SPACE VALUES THAT O F M P IDENTIFIED ON THE SITE AND IT

[119:00] INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM PROVIDING A CONSERVATION AREA THAT ACTS LIKE A BUFFER BETWEEN WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE OPEN SPACE TO THE WEST USE OF RESTORING SOME OF THE TRAILS THAT HAVE BEEN DEGRADED OVER TIME THE SOCIAL TRAILS ESTABLISHING EASEMENTS FOR TRAILS THROUGH THE SITE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND ALLOWING THE MOUNTAIN BACKDROP TO REMAIN BECAUSE IN THIS LOCATION FROM A DISTANCE YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN SEE IT AND AS YOU RECALL I WON'T SHOW THIS IMAGE BUT AS YOU RECALL THE NURSES' DORMITORY SITS PROUDLY ON THAT SITE AND THIS IS WHERE THAT OPEN SPACE OF THEIR SITE IS LOCATED NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THERE SO THEN IN EVALUATING THE SITE PLAN THERE'S A NUMBER OF POLICIES THAT THE PLANS ARE CONSISTENT WITH INCLUDING IT'S A PREFERRED COMPACT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AS WE TALKED ABOUT WELL BELOW THE BLUE LINE IS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CITY PREFERS IN PHELAN IN THIS CASE THIS IS CONSIDERED AN INFILL SITE

[120:02] IT'S NOT AN UNTOUCHED GREENFIELD SITE THERE'S A HISTORIC RESOURCES ON THE SITE THAT WILL ACT AS BUILDING BLOCKS TO CREATE THIS NEW NEIGHBORHOOD NEW RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND ESSENTIALLY ITS HOUSING FOR A VARIETY OF HOUSEHOLDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND PARTICULARLY SPECIAL NEEDS WHO WERE SENIORS IN THIS CASE SO WITH REGARD TO THE CIRCULATION CRITERIA THAT NINE OF THE PARKING ON STREETS MAKE SUFFICIENT USE OF LAND AND USES THE MINIMUM AMOUNT NECESSARY AND SO IN THAT REGARD BUT YOU SEE HERE'S THE VAST AREA OF SURFACE PARKING LOTS AND THIS WAS THE RESPONSE AGAIN TO PLANNING BOARD A CONCEPT PLAN TO TRY AND MOVE THAT PARKING BELOW GRADE AND USE LESS OF THE LAND SO THE MAJORITY SPACES THAT YOU SEE ARE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTS VISITORS AND CHURCH PARKING IN AN ONGOING AGREEMENT WITH THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH AND THIS IS ONE LEVEL OF BELOW GRADE PARKING INTENDED TO MINIMIZE CUT AND

[121:02] FILL ALSO IN DEFERENCE TO THE SITE REVIEW CRITERIA THERE'S A NUMBER OF TEDIUM HER PROPOSALS TO ENCOURAGE ALL MODES FOR EMPLOYEES AND THAT INCLUDES A PROVISION OF ECO PASSES SHOWERS ON SITE BIKE PARKING ET-CETERA THE HEIGHT IS IN GENERAL PROPORTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT'S WHAT THE CRITERIA SAYS THE THREE STOREY CORNER OF BUILDING A WHICH IS THE TALLEST PROPOSED ON THE SITE SITS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE AND IT'S IN GENERAL PROPORTION IF NOT HIM LESS IMPACTFUL LESS IMPACTFUL THAN THE EXISTING THREE TO FIVE STORY HOSPITAL BUILDING IN THIS BUILDING IN PARTICULAR WAS DESIGNED WITH THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD'S INPUT TO ESSENTIALLY CREATE A PUNCTUATION MARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE AS A LITTLE VILLAGE PUNCTUATION MARK AND IT SINCE INTENDED TO ESTABLISH DESIGN DETAILS THAT WILL HELP ENGAGE THE PEDESTRIAN PART OF THE CONFUSION ABOUT THE HEIGHT IN THIS CASE IT'S

[122:01] IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THERE'S A NEED FOR A LEVEL FLOOR ON THE SITE AND AS WE ALL KNOW THE SITE DROPS FAIRLY DRAMATICALLY AND IN DOING SO THERE'S A GAP WHERE THE BUILDING HAS TO MEET THE GROUND AND I HAVE SOME EXHIBITS LATER IF YOU'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT CREATES THE CHALLENGE FOR GETTING THREE STORIES INTO THIRTY FIVE FEET. SO SIMILARLY AT THE INTERFACE YES THE SOLES ONE WILL ALSO COMMIT TO A SHOW I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW IS AS STORIED TO FIND OUT THAT NO SLIGHT I CAN SHOW YOU OKAY SO FAR WE'VE GOT TO FLAG THAT WE KNOW WE'RE COMING BACK TO SHOW UP OR SO JUST TO WRAP UP BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES BUT AT THE INTERFACE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER ON MAPLE TEN IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THERE IS AN EXISTING CONTEXT OF A FAIRLY LARGE

[123:00] CHURCH IN THAT LOCATION AND THE EXISTING CONTEXT OF THE HOSPITAL. SO IN THAT CASE THE MASS HEIGHT IN SKILL IS IN THE CONFIGURATION IS IN PROPORTION TO THOSE EXISTING WITHOUT EXISTING BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THEY LIKEWISE OF COURSE AS WE NOTED THE INDEPENDENT LIVING COTTAGES LINE FORTH ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE HOMES ACROSS FOURTH STREET AND ALSO THE HOMES THE TRAILHEAD SO FOR KEY ISSUES WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE THREE THERE'S THE SITE REVIEW USE REVIEW AND RE ZONING AND WE'VE ALSO RECOMMENDED IF IT HELPS TO UTILIZE THE MATRIX THAT WE'VE PROVIDED TO YOU TO GO ALONG AS YOU DELIBERATE AND AGAIN TO FOCUS ON MAKING A CRITERIA BASED DECISION. OK SO I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT OUT WHY DAVID'S BACK FOR IS SORT

[124:01] OF THIS MAKING SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN THE COMP PLAN WE HAVE THESE PRINCIPLES THAT WERE LOOKING AND WE HAVE SOME BENEFITS THAT WERE LISTED ON BENEFITS AREN'T CRITERIA FOR SITE REVIEW BUT THEY ARE RELEVANT TO WHETHER IT MEETS SEVENTIES COP LAND PRINCIPLES WHICH SOAP AND MAYBE SAM CAN HELP HERE BUT TRYING TO TELL WHAT THE DEAL IS HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT SITE REVIEW WE GO LOOK AT THE CRITERIA BUT WHAT'S BEING PROMISED AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY ENFORCEABLE IF YOU WILL ON IS RELEVANT TO THAT DISCUSSION SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT AND I'M ONLY KIND OF CLEAR ON THAT AND WE TALKED A LITTLE AT THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY PIECE BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE OTHER BENEFITS LISTED FOR EXAMPLE LIKE A WARM WATER POOL WHICH IS GREAT BUT IS THAT ENFORCEABLE AND WHAT GREAT DADS HELP US

[125:01] ON THAT SO I'LL JUMP IN AND MAYBE DAVID WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME HERE BUT IT'S SO IN OUR CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO ENSURING THAT THE PLANS ARE OR THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN STATED ACTS MADE WHATEVER THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE PLANS IS THE WARM WATER THERAPY POOL. IF FOR EXAMPLE WE GET TO A PLACE AFTER TECH DOCK AND IT'S THE WARM OR TO FERRY PEOPLE ARE SHOWN IN TACT BUT WE GET TO BUILDING PERMIT AND IT'S NOT SHOWN A BUILDING PERMIT SAID THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT SO UNTIL IT MEETS THE SITE REVIEW PLANS THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT BUT THE I GUESS MAYBE IT'S THE USE OF THE POOL IS NOT THEIR POOLS IN THE SAFE PART OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH IS ALSO AGAIN PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS THE MANAGEMENT THEY WERE OKAY

[126:00] SO THAT LIST OF BENEFITS THAT YOU HAD MAYBE FOR THAT TO IT. REMEMBER THE SLIDE THERE WAS ONE ABOUT OPEN SPACE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE OTHER THINGS GREEN AND IT LISTED WARM WATER THERAPY POOL HALF DOZEN THINGS ON YEAH YEAH I GUESS WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT. ALSO IF I CAN ROUND UP AND AND REALLY THE INTENT OF THE SLIDE IS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE IS ACCESS BUT LOCATE IT SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS IS THAT DEFINITELY GOING TO BE THE CASE OR THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THIS ADDRESSES SOME OF THE VALUES UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN CRITERIA AND IF THEY'RE FOR SURE GOING TO HAPPEN THAT IS MUCH MORE MEANINGFUL THAN MIGHT HAPPEN AND I TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHICH OR FOR WHAT HAPPENED WHICH MADE THE SET OF PLANS THAT YOU

[127:00] HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU HAVE ALL THESE ELEMENTS WITHIN THEM AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS YOUR APPROVING THIS SET OF PLANS WITH THAT DATE ISN'T TO SAY THOUGH IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN I THINK HIS OR HER RIGHTS TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL REQUIRE ADHERENCE TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT AND THE MANAGEMENT PLAN ON PAGE FIVE HAS A SECTION ON THE WARM WATER THERAPY POOL AND GYM WHICH HAS ACCESS HOURS. IT SAYS LOCKERS AND SHARING FACILITIES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE FACILITY WILL BE STAFFED WITH REHABILITATION REAL MOTIVATION FITNESS SPECIALISTS ET-CETERA SO THAT THEY'RE BOUND TO ADHERE TO THE PRECEPTS OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE GUARANTEE IS THAT THESE VARIOUS ACCESS PIECES WERE INVITED TO OR ALL OF THOSE AND I THOUGHT I READ THROUGH IT ALL BUT I JUST WANT ALL THOSE BULLET POINTS LISTED WILL ACTUALLY SEE THE FIRST TO KNOW THE YEAR BEFORE REHABILITATION FACILITY OR IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN BUT THE TRAIL EASEMENTS

[128:00] ARE RECORDED LEGALLY AS AN EASEMENT SO THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN THE MANAGEMENT TOOK A GONDOLA SO DISHONEST SO THEY'RE ELSEWHERE WEEKEND PARKING IS PART OF THE MANAGEMENT PART OF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN SO IS IT MORE ENFORCEABLE ACCESS TO AND TO THE SITE AREAS START OF THE INTERNATIONAL AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR PLAN AXIS TO GUEST LECTURES ACTUALLY IN PART OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR MANAGEMENT PLAN AS WELL AND THEN FIND THE CHAPEL SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE ENFORCEABLE IS A MANAGEMENT PLAN WITH THE SITE YOU CAN SEE GRASS. YES TIMES ARE LAWYER NODDING YES. OK RITE THAT HAS HELPED THE MEDIA ONE BOOK I GUESS I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY AND DAVID PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I GET THIS WRONG BUT THERE IS NO DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY BENEFIT DURING THE COMP LAB REPORT AND SITE PLAN REVIEW CRITERIA SERVED TO THE EXTENT THAT THESE THINGS ARE PROMISED ARREST THAT'S NICE BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY BEARING IN MOSTLY ON THE SITE PLAN REVIEW MIGHT

[129:02] SAY SOMETHING TO WHAT IT DOES FOR THE COMP PLAN MEMBERS POLICIES AND AND SO ON THE COMP PLAN BUT IN MY MIND AND EVA CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. NONE OF THESE ARE PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE CAN EVALUATE BASED ON IS THAT CORRECT. NO I THINK THAT THESE ARE ALL PART OF THE SITE PLAN AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN CONDITION DIANE AND TOM REQUIRE AND THEY ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SO WHAT IF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN CHANGES SO TO WHAT EXTEND IS AS THE APPLICANT DOWN IN PERPETUITY TO THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN. WELL THEY'RE BOUND TO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN UNTIL THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT THEY CAN EITHER DO MINOR MODIFICATIONS. YOU KNOW AND THOSE ARE VERY YOU KNOW THERE'S QUITE A SET OF BOUNDARIES ON WHAT YOU CAN DO THROUGH A MINOR MODIFICATION HURT THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT LOOKS ALOT LIKE THIS PROCESS IT'S

[130:00] BASICALLY AMENDING THEIR SITE REVIEW APPROVAL OR USE REVIEW APPROVAL WHICH EVER ONE NIGHT THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO CHANGE AND YOU CAN ASK IF YOU QUESTION JUST A FOLLOW UP TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND SO LET'S CUT TO BE EXAMPLE OF THE TERM ART HOUSE CINEMA BUT DID NOT COME TO BE AND THE DAILY CAMERA BUILDING SO THE APPLICATION DEVELOPER IN THAT CASE ACTUALLY BUILT OUT THE SPACES THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO BY THE PLANS AND SO WE CAN PROBABLY EXPECT THAT THIS APPLICANT WHO BY THE WAY I'M NOT CASTING AS PERSIANS ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT I'M JUST TRYING TO DELINEATE FOR DISCUSSION WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE REQUIRED AND HOW IT CAN CHANGE OR NOT CHANGE OVER TIME SO MAYBE THE CAMERA SITUATION THEY BUILT THE SHELF AND THEN THERE WAS NO CONDITION THAT WAS NO MANAGEMENT PLAN SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT IF THERE HAD BEEN A MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT REQUIRED OPERATOR OF THAT BUILDING TO MAKE A MESS TO

[131:01] HAPPEN IF DEBT MANAGEMENT PLAN HAD STATED THAT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT BIG COULD HAVE BEEN HELD TO A NOT WELL I THINK THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY CASE BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF PIRATE USES AND THEY WERE SAYING THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES SET BY RAY USES THAT WE CAN PUT IN HERE AND THEY DESIGNED IT FOR ONE OF THE PIRATE USES AND THAT ONE BY RAY HUGHES TURNED OUT TO BE NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE SO IT NEVER HAPPENED BUT THEY DID BUILD OUT THE SPACE AND THAT DIDN'T REQUIRE USE REVIEW OR A MANAGEMENT YEAH EVERYTHING THAT WAS ALLOWED IN THAT ON THAT PROJECT AS OPPOSED TO THIS ONE WHICH ALSO HAS A USE REVIEW ON AND THAT WAS ALL BY WRIGHT USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THAT BUILDING THERE'S NO LIMITATIONS ON USE AND THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON USE WHEN YOU GET INTO THE REALM OF BY WRIGHT USES THERE'S NO THERE'S NO LIMITATION ON HOW YOU MOVE THOSE USES IN AND OUT PROVIDED THAT THEIR USES BY RIGHT SUPPOSE TO USE REVIEW USER A CONDITIONAL USE

[132:00] GREAT JOB AND THEN THESE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD FOR YOU SERVE YOU BECAUSE THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS GOING TO OR USE REVIEW ANYTHING THAT COMES FORWARD AS A MANAGEMENT PLAN IN THIS PROCESS THAT WE APPROVE. THERE HAS TO BE A UM APPEAL BACKED THE CITY TO MAKE A CHANGE SO LET ME JUST PICK ANOTHER ONE. ACCESS TO GUEST LECTURES OR CONCERTS THAT SEEMS FAIRLY BROAD AS AN AMENITY AND I'M SURE THERE ARE LIMITS TO THAT SO WILL THERE BE A MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THIS THAT SPEAKS TO HOW ACCESS HAPPENS TO GUEST LECTURES AND CONCERTS AND IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO SAY THE CITY MANAGER LAM TUCK AND THREE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THAT PROCESS BY WHICH THEY INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY HAVE HAD IS AT WORK. YEAH IT WOULD EITHER BE AMENDING THEIR USE OR YOU KNOW IF IT'S MINOR MODS LIKE YOU KNOW I DON'T I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT THE WHAT

[133:01] REPRESENTATIONS THEY MADE ABOUT ACCESS TO LECTURES BUT LET'S JUST SAY THAT THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO THREE A MONTH AND THEY WANT TO MOVE TO FOR A MONTH THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DEALT WITH THROUGH MINOR MODIFICATION IF THEY'RE GOING TO REMOVE IT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW WHAT AMENDMENT AND SO THAT WOULD COME AXIS AND FIVE YEARS THEY WANT TO DO IT AND MAY APPLY FOR AN AMENDMENT PROCESS WOULD THAT GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW THE PLANNING BOARD AND IF WE CHOSE TO CALL A COUNCIL THAT WILL COME TO COUNCIL. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY IT'S VERY HELPFUL THING TO AND AGAIN JUST CLICHE IT'S BECAUSE THESE ARE CONDITIONAL USES THAT WE HAVE THIS EXTRA LEVER THAT'S CORRECT THESE ARE THEIR USE REVIEW USES SO THEIR DISCRETIONARY USE APPROVALS SO THERE IS A KIND OF A GREATER LEVEL OF CONTROL THAT YOU HAVE OVER HOW TO HOW THE PROPERTY OPERATES A POSITION ABOUT THIS POINT GOOD MEASURE PLAN FULLY LOCKDOWN HOURS. OK SO SO SO

[134:00] SO WHAT WE HAVE IS IS THE FOUR CORNERS OF THAT THAT SAID IT'S CRACKED. OK GREAT THING IS THIS SOMETHING NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TONIGHT WE APPROVE DISAPPROVE OR CAN WE ADD CONDITIONS. YES YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS AT THE CRAZY CAN DO THAT TONIGHT AND THEN THEIR CRITERIA BASE SO CAN EXPLORE THAT JUST A MOMENT JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SO SAY THAT THE MORE MODERATE THEIR PEOPLE AS OURS FROM MY MEETS AT NOON TO FOUR RIGHT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAW A MARE SAY WE THOUGHT IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN THAT AND WE PUT THAT AS A CONDITION THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE BUT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE USE THAT CRITERIA BASED WHAT CRITERIA ARE BEING USED TO ESTABLISH IN THE FIRST PLACE SO WELL IT'S IT'S BEINGS ESTABLISHED BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO USE YOURS IS AN EXAMPLE. SO LET'S JUST SAY CRITERIA BASED ONE OF

[135:00] THE HEADSET REVIEW HER OR USE THREE CRITERIA DEALS WITH THE IMPACTS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IF YOU ARE TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF SPREADING YOU KNOW HAVING A PROPERTY ALL OPEN FROM EIGHT TO FOUR RATHER THAN TWELVE TO FOUR SO THAT USERS COULD BE DISPERSED MORE BROADLY ACROSS THE DAY THAT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A CRITERIA BASED ON REASON FOR A CONDITION CUT IT. THANK YOU. OK I THINK IS VERY HELPFUL. WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AROUND MY FANS OUT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS LEASE OF A SUMMER HEIGHTENED USES THE WEEKEND. I JUST WANTED TO MOVE METHODICALLY ARE YOU HELPING THE PROCESS NO I HAVE QUESTIONS AND USE ARE THE CRITERIA AND THAT THE SAME THING ARE JUST ADAMANT YES OK GLAD IT'S NOT PERTAINING TO THIS SLIDE IN PARTICULAR. UM BUT IT IS

[136:02] PERTAINING TO THE CRITERIA THAT'S BEGIN ON PAGE SIX FIFTY TWO OF OUR FIRST PART OF OUR PACKAGE AND I'M GOING TO READ THEM FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE DIDN'T MAKE IT TO PAGE SIX A TWO A SO THE QUESTION SURROUNDS THE FACT THAT AT THE TOP OF THE USE OF YOUR CRITERIA. IT SAYS NO USE REVIEW APPLICATION WILL BE APPROVED UNLESS THE APPROVING AGENCY FINDS ARE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING ON PAGE SIX FIFTY TWO ON THE THIRD CRITERIA CRITERION THERE IS THERE TO QUESTION MARKS THAT COULD KICK CRITERION HAS TO DO WITH WITH COMPATIBILITY AND THIS IS STAFF'S COMMENTS

[137:01] DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMENTS AND IN THAT ITEM I'LL JUST QUOTE ONE PHRASE IT SAYS STAFF FINDS THE CURRENT MASS AND SCALE IN SPECIFIC AREAS OF THE SITE WOULD NOT BE COMPATIBLE IN THE CONTEXT. SO THAT'S ONE ITEM THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO ME IN YOU. I'M LOOKING FOR MY SIX FIFTY TWO THE HOT TUNA. I DON'T THINK WE CAN FIND WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT THOUGH. WHAT'S THE TITLE OF THE FILE THE TITLE OF THE FILE IS TWENTY TWENTY EIGHTEEN SEVEN SEVENTEEN AGENDA PACKET AND I THINK IT'S THE FIRST PART I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S THE FIRST PART JOURNAL PART WRONG YET I LOST TRACK. YOU KNOW YOU'RE READING THE QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH TOLLS WITH THE BROADER QUESTION IS THE QUESTION IS IS THE STAFF'S DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMENTS DO NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT WE JUST SAW IN THE PRESENTATION I THINK THIS MAY BE FIVE FIFTEEN OF

[138:00] THE LARGER PACKET SO YEAH I MEAN SIX FIFTY TWO OUT OF TEN TWENTY FIVE MARY NOW SIX FIFTY TWO OUT OF ELEVEN SIXTY TWO. THIS IS I THINK PAGE FIVE FIFTEEN OF THE PACKET IS THE WAY IT DID JUST GET THE OK BECAUSE THAT IS FUN SO IF I MAY CLARIFY TO THIS IS IN THE PROCESS SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE EARLIER ITERATIONS THAT STAFF WAS COMMENTING ON BUT I THINK THEY'RE STILL RELEVANT TO THE TO THE SUBMITTED SITE REVIEW BECAUSE IT'S REFERRING TO THE SAME THING AND SOME OF THESE THINGS DID NOT CHANGE SO IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS PART OF THAT USE REVIEW CRITERIA SAY IN TERMS OF WHY IT DOES NOT MEET THEM. THAT STILL EXISTS WHEN I READ THROUGH THE PACKET SO I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION AND SO SO IN THAT CASE THE A BUILDING WAS ONE VERY LARGE U SHAPED BUILDING

[139:01] AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE PROCESS STAFF ASKED THAT THEY INSTEAD MAKE THAT ESSENTIALLY THE SEPARATE BUILDINGS SO THERE WOULDN'T BE AN APPEARANCE OF A VERY LARGE BUILDING AND SO THROUGH THE PROCESS THEY AND THIS ALSO INVOLVED THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD THEY TOOK PORTIONS OF THE A BUILDING AND THEY SPLIT APART BASICALLY JUST PULL THAT HER ANOTHER PORTION WAS IN THE UPPER PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE THERE'S THE J COTTAGES AS THEY'RE REFERRED TO THEIR DUPLEX IS AND IT'S ON A COPPER PLANT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE THERE'S SOME GARAGES AND PARKING AREA TODAY THEY WERE GOING TO PROPOSE THE SUB ACUTE REHAB FACILITY UP ABOVE AND IT WAS A LARGER BUILDING IN THAT LOCATION IT WOULD HAVE CREATED A MUCH MORE FORMIDABLE FORTRESS LIKE BUILDING IN THAT CONTEXT SICK SO THROUGH THE PROCESS THOSE TYPES OF CHANGES HAVE

[140:06] OCCURRED. OK SO IN TERMS OF PROCESS. SO HAVE A SUGGESTION I HAVE A SUGGESTION COMES THE PROCESS I BELIEVE IN THIS IS MY OPINION NOT BE HAPPIER ABOUT THE COUNCILMEMBERS THINK ABOUT ME BUT MOST OBVIOUS AND STRAIGHTFORWARD THESE IS THE REZONING BUT I'LL JUST PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN EASY READ THIS I PLAN MENUS FOR VIEWS ARE MORE COMPLICATED SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO GO TO THE REZONING FIRST ANOTHER WAY WE COULD ALSO TACKLE THIS IS WHEN OTHERS ARE A FEW BIG BUCKETS OF ISSUES LIKE HIGH THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DOES RUSSELL TO THE GROUND INTERVIEW AND MAYBE ALSO ON THE LAND USE QUESTION YOU ARE ADDRESSING ENOUGH THERE IS SOME OTHER BIG BUCKETS THAT WE COULD ALSO JUST PAS UNKIND AGO SHE LOVES TO BEND THEM WANT TO GO BACK TO MARY'S UNDERSTAND IT BETTER BECAUSE I MEAN YES MARY'S IS A SPECIFIC USE REVIEW QUESTION ABOUT DOES

[141:01] SOMETHING MEET THE CRITERIA OF WHAT DO YOU STRIVE USE AS IN THE CODE AND SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WANT TO WRESTLE THINGS TO THE GROUND BUT I WANT AT LEAST MAKE THIS LIST AND YOU KNOW MY AND ON THE LIST BUT I REALLY THINK WHAT MARY RAISED I WANT TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT MEANS LIFE TO FIND THE RIGHT FILES THAT WERE ALL LOOKING THE SAME PAGE AND THAT WE'RE UNDERSTANDING THE POINT SHE'S RAISING BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN THE USE OF YOU IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA IS THE SITE PLAN REVIEWS AND ON BALANCE QUESTION CORRECT ANSWER THAT'S USE REVIEW CRITERIA IT IS AN AND I'D ALSO JUST WANNA SAY THAT IF USE REVIEW CRITERIA ARE NOT MET THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE KIND OF CARE THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS AND I SO SO MAYBE WE NEED TO WRESTLE THIS ONE TO THE GROUND FIRST. SO CAN YOU

[142:01] GET US ON THE HANG ON HANG ON WE'RE GOING TO GET A PROCESS WE GOT THAT ONE WILL SO GOING TO FIGURE OUT COLLECTIVELY TO ORDER A FEW MORE THOUGHT TO HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY MY QUESTION ABOUT LAND USE DESIGNATION UP IS ALSO KIND OF AN EXISTENTIAL QUESTION MARRIED JUST TO PUT IT ON PAR BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IF THE PROPOSED PROJECT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND I NEED TO TURN TO COUNT ON ASK WHAT THAT MEANS AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOU SAY IT'S IT'S KIND OF EXISTENTIAL COMES BEFORE HEIGHTEN THE SENSE THAT IF IT EXISTENTIAL ON IT AS IT WERE AN OK SO THOSE TWO GO FIRST THE DEAL WHOM ENTERED WEEK TO WEEK IT'S NOT GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ORDER ARE DOING STUFF OK AND THAT WILL GET BACK TO IT'S JUST TOO MUCH WEIGHT TO MIND

[143:00] JUST RELATED TO WHAT MARY BROUGHT UP ON THIS IS OVER A THOUSAND PAGE PACKET IN THE WAY THAT I READ BY FIFTEEN IN THE COMMENTS MADE THERE'S A NUMBER OF THOSE PLACES THROUGHOUT THE THOUSAND PAGES WHERE EGOS THROUGH STAFFS USE REVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS I WAS READING AS A COUNTER HERE'S THE BACKGROUND. THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS OF PROCESS ON THIS AND MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF PLANNING BOARD AND OTHER BOARDS THAT THAT THAT THAT PAGE WASN'T DEFINITIVE FOR TODAY THAT WAS JUST PROVIDING CONTEXT FOR US BECAUSE THERE'S MANY PLACES WHERE IT'S ENOUGH. TYPICALLY PROVIDES THE REVIEW COMMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO THE DECISION MAKERS. OK HE HOW THAT'S EVOLVED OVER TIME THE CORRECTED HER OKAY KEEP IN MIND IF ALL OF THEM THAT I HAVE A SEPARATE POINT BECAUSE I THINK THOSE THOSE COMING FROM LOOKING VERY ONES ARE FROM THE MAY TWO TWENTY TWENTY SEVENTEEN STAFF COMMENTS. MARY DOES NOT SEEM

[144:00] TO SO THAT I THINK THE STAFF DOES NOT FEEL THAT THAT CRITERIA IS NOT MET WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSAL OF COURSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION CERTAINLY USE REVIEW HAS TO MEET CRITERIA NUMBER THREE FOR COMPATIBILITY AND YOU KNOW WE COULD NOT FIND THAT DOES MEET THAT CRITERIA BUT THAT PARTICULAR WAS ABOUT A PREVIOUS ITERATION JUST ON A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE IS HIM THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE EXISTENTIAL ABOUT THIS AM THAT LIKE MARY SAID IF YOU CAN'T CAMP COUNTRY CARE RESPITE UNLESS I MAKE SENSE BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S OWNER ET-CETERA PUT LAND USE LAND USE DESIGNATION BUT JUST ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAD WAS THAT MORE OF THE OVERALL ISSUES ARE CAPTURED AND OR THE SEC REVIEW THAN THE OTHER THINGS THAT SORT OF GETS TO THE ESSENCE OF WHETHER COUNCIL CONSIDERS THAT AN APPROVAL PROJECT AND SO I THOUGHT PERHAPS IF WE FIGURED OUT EVERYBODY'S QUESTIONS ON THE HEIGHT OF ACCLAIM USE OR

[145:02] SO AND THEN TALKED OR THE SEC REVIEW WE COULD SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND FROM THERE IT ANOTHER THOUGHT THERE'S ALSO THE BOY HAD NO OTHER. THERE'S ALSO THE LAND MARKING OF BUILDINGS AND IN CORNERS WALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND IS SAID UM IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT'S NOT IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IT'S IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. OK SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE LAND MARKED CORRECT PROCESS. OK. SO WE CAN WE'VE GOT TWO ALTERNATIVE PROPOSALS GO EITHER WAY AT SOME POINT TALK ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS SO THE QUESTION DISORDER I'M LOOKING TO COUNCIL FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE THE RAY FLOW. IT'S JUST ER WERE MARY STARTED US ON THE RIGHT P OTHERS START WITH YOU THROUGH THE CRITERIA

[146:06] OF SIR I'M SORRY I MEAN IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE TARGET HAVE TO GET A DRESS I MEAN MY MY CONCERN PROBABLY FALLS UNDER SITE PLAN BUT IT PROBABLY ISN'T LIKE WHEN ONE OF SITE PLAN REVIEW IS ALSO KIND OF EXISTENTIAL LEVELS OF THE FACILITIES TO GIVE THE IS THAT THE STATE LET'S TURN TO PAGE FIVE YOU DO CONGREGATE CARE. HE'S FIVE THE CHART WE CAN ALL BE LOOKING AT THE PEACHTREE IN FAITH I HAVE OK SO I HAVE PAGE TWENTY ONE RIGHT ABOVE THE PAGE SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY TWO OF ELEVEN SIXTY TWO SO KEEP THIS FOR THE HALF TO SUPERIORS THAT PAGE FIVE FIFTEEN OF THE PDF DOCUMENT. OH HANG ON LET ME SEE YOU RIGHT NOW HADN'T. YES YES YES THAT'S

[147:01] CORRECT. SORRY BOUT THAT HE'S OKAY SO IN CASES WHERE YOU ARE. YES I THINK PICTURES WE GOT TO MEET ALL SIX CRITERIA AND JUST KIND OF FRAME IT FOR YES THE YES THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT IT HAS TO MEET ALL SIX ARE SIX OF THE CRITERIA THAT IF YOU HAVE SLIDES THAT LIST THE SIX CRITERIA THE USE I WOULD THROW DE OK. BUT TO GO AHEAD YES MARY. OK SO COMPATIBILITY. I LOOKED YOU KNOW OUT A LOT OF THE FOCUS IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE MASS AND SCALE WAS AROUND THE CURRENT HOSPITAL SO AND TO LISA'S POINT THAT SHE BROUGHT UP DURING THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE BECAUSE IT IS AND

[148:04] THERE'S NO FA R U CAN HAVE UNLIMITED F A R OR SO YOU BUY THAT BY NATURE OF THAT ZONING YOU CAN WITHOUT ANY KIND OF GUARD RAILS YOU CAN QUICKLY GO OUT OF COMPATIBILITY SO SO THE MEMO FOCUSED ON JUST THE HOSPITAL AND HOW THAT HOW CURRENT HOSPITAL WAS TALLER THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED AND THE BUILDINGS ARE BROKEN UP AS ELAINE DESCRIBED BUT THERE'S NEVER ANY MENTION OF BUILDINGS B C AND UM SKILLED NURSING CARE AND THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE NOT ACCOUNTED FOR OR THAT THE NON RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE AND REMAIN UNACCOUNTED FOR WITH IN THE DESCRIPTION

[149:01] OF THE COMPATIBILITY AND IN ONE OF THE PAGES AND I CAN LOOK FOR IT BUT THERE IS ALSO A COMMENT HOW EXACTLY THAT THIS THIS COMPATIBILITY IS CORRECT IF YOU JUST FOCUS ON WHAT'S EXISTING IN THE HOSPITAL BUT THE MOMENT BUT BUT IT DOES NOT LOOK AT CONSISTENCY BASED ON WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE IT START TO THE BASELINE OF WHAT'S GETTING POKED OR SO AND THEN UM ELAINE WAS DESCRIBING HOW THEY BROKE UP THE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT BUILDING AND TO SEVERAL BUILDINGS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS ASK FOR IS TO OR WAS A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT HOW THE MASS SEEING BECAUSE THERE WAS THE LAST CONNECTION BETWEEN BUILDINGS A AND B THAT THAT STILL HAD AN APPEARANCE AND THAT WAS ALSO ASKED TO BE CHANGED THAT WAS NOT CHANGED AND SO THERE FOR THAT. THAT

[150:01] APPEARANCE THERE AT THE END OF THE CIRCLE IS STILL THE MASSING IS STILL HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE SO THAT'S SEE THAT'S ONE COMMENT THE OTHER THING IS THAT WHEN I WENT THROUGH AND I WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE BUILDINGS AND I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS UM I ASKED A QUESTION DURING THE HEARING ABOUT WHAT WAS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BASED ON AND THE ANSWER WAS IT'S BASED ON WHAT WORKS AT FRASIER MEADOWS. SO IN REAL ESTATE IS AND OR STAND IT AND JOKING AND CAN CONFIRM THIS OR NOT IT'S ABOUT LOCATION. YOU KNOW HE ALWAYS HEAR LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION. SO WHAT WORKS AT FRASIER MEADOWS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WORKS AT MAPLETON HILL. SO MY POINT IS THAT PERHAPS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS COULD BE SMALLER AT MAPLETON HILL

[151:02] AND YOU WOULD END UP WITH LESS BULK AND THIS MASS BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY DIFFERENT LOCATION SO SO AGAIN THAT GOES TO THE BULK AND MASS WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT GOES TO COMPATIBILITY WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT ALSO GOES TO CHARACTER THE AREA WHICH IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE SECRETARY AND ON THE USE REVIEW AND AGAIN ALL OF WHAT I JUST KNOW TO ADD SOME WOULD ALSO APPLY TO THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. SO NOW YOU KNOW HOW I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION AND SAY OKAY SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SUM UP IN A SENSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THE COUNCIL IS YOU THINK THE BALL IN MASS THEY ARE JUST YET SO I HAD IN A SENSE WE'RE IN A SENSE I'M SAYING THAT BASED ON WHAT I JUST SAID THE BULK AND MASS AND

[152:01] THE FACT THAT BUILT THE BUILDINGS BE THROUGH OUR I DON'T REMEMBER HOW FAR THE ALPHABET IT WENT BUT THAT DOES NOT MEET CRITERIA AND FIVE OR THREE THE CHARACTER COMPATIBILITY. OK SO THAT'S BEEN PUT ON THE TABLE COUNCIL RESPONSE TO GO IT JUST JUST THINKING ABOUT BULK AND MASS ON THE SITE WERE AT SIX POINT TWO UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WE DO IN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SO THE WAY THAT I SEE THIS IS MUCH LIKE WE TREAT OUR AISLE TO WHERE YOU KNOW WE ALLOW THE DRAWING UNITS TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER IN ORDER TO HAVE LARGER CHUNKS OF OPEN SPACE OF FIFTY NINE PERCENT OF THIS SITE IS IS IS OPENED AND ON WHETHER ITS OPEN SPACE HEARD SEE NO LANDSCAPING

[153:00] ACCENT OR OSO BUT WE BUT WHEN YOU AVERAGE ALL OUT IT'S IT'S VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UM I GUESS I WILL RESPOND TO THE REAL ESTATE SORT OF ANALYSIS AND JUST SAY THAT I'M GETTING ON SQUARE FOOTAGE AND CAN CARRY TRADES ARE MATTERS THAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT USE SO YOU KNOW WITH UM LOCATION IT'S HOW IT AFFECTS PRICING SO YOU KNOW OF THE FAMILY OF THREE KIDS IS IDEALLY GOING TO HAVE WITH THREE KIDS IS IDEALLY CAN HAVE FOR BETTER OR FOR BETTER I'M SORRY THAT'S NOT TO CHANGE WHETHER YOU'RE ON STATUS OR WHETHER YOU'RE OUT EAST OR WHATEVER IT'S JUST ONE SNEEZES CAN BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN I THINK WE HAVE THAT REFLECTED IN IN THIS THE SAME AS WELL JUST GO LIKE THAT THE PROJECT IS REASONABLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD I THINKING OF THE QUESTIONS WERE THE CONGREGATE CARE IS AN ACCEPTABLE USE AND THEN THERE'S THE CRITERION OF WHETHER THE LOCATION SIZE DESIGN AND OPERATING CHARACTERISTICS ARE

[154:01] REASONABLY COMPATIBLE AND WILL HAVE MINIMAL NEGATIVE IMPACT ON NEARBY PROPERTIES AND I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT ITS EARLY IN THE INTERFACE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALONG FORT STREET. YOU'VE GOT THE COLLEGES I THINK WHICH ARE REASONABLY SIMILAR TO THE HOUSES IN THE AREA AND ALONG MAPLE TIN YOU HAVE THE POOL BUILDING AND THEN THE BILL THE EDGE OF BUILDING A WHICH IS THE ONE TALLER BUILDING THAT FRONTS THE STREET WHICH IS IN THE CONTEXT OF HISTORY MAKES A DIFFERENCE THERE. THAT'S WHERE THE LARGE HOSPITAL BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN AND I THINK OF THE THREE STORY BUILDING THIS IS A REASONABLE SIZE FOR THAT STREET FACE IT DOES GET A LITTLE ADDITIONAL HYPE BY NOT HAVING A FLAT ROOF SO I THINK HAVING THAT DESIGN APPROACH I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR IN DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SEEING AND I THINK HER INTO THE CAMPUS YOU NEED TO HAVE

[155:00] SOME SOME OF THE BIGGER BUILDINGS BUT I THINK THEY'RE APPROPRIATE TO THE CAMPUS EITHER SITE THERE SO I FEEL LIKE IT DOES MEET THOSE CRITERIA ON THESE FEW OTHERS WERE ON WHAT I MEAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS TWO CRITERIA YOU MENTION MARY IS THAT THEY'RE BOTH ALSO SOME OF THE WEEK SINCE I PLAN REVIEW. I MEAN BOTH OF AS THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA OUR JOURNEY THING THAT YOU FOUND IN THE OTHER ARE SIX CRITERIA LISTED IN USE TRIVIA RIGHT AND YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE VERY MUTE YOU THINK WE'RE YOU THINK THOSE ARE EGREGIOUS ENOUGH THAT WE COULDN'T WORK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE AND SITE PLAN AND USE OF YOUR CARS THERE. ANYWAY THOSE ARE SUPER LATE RIGHT THE COMPATIBILITY PARTICULARLY HAM THE CHARACTER THE AREA THAT'S LINKED TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TALK ABOUT A SITE PLAN WHICH

[156:00] IS USUALLY FOCUS ON THE BUILDINGS FROM THE SITE LAYOUT AND SO ON IS ANYTHING ABOUT THE ACTUAL USE OR THE USE ANALYSIS THAT YOU WELL I THINK YOU KNOW ONE OF ONE COMMENT THAT ACTUALLY CUT AND PASTED FROM SOME STAFF QUOTE REGARDING THE COMPATIBILITY WAS TO START WITH WHAT IS THERE AND NOT WITH WHAT IS PROPOSED IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY AND CHARACTER. SO I STOOD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH IT BUT I YES I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUT THAT DOES OR IF I'M HEARING THE REGISTRAR MAKE SURE I'M HEARING IT RIGHT THOSE ARE BUILDING CHARACTER ISSUES MOSTLY THAT YOU SEEM TO BE RAISING YES THEY ARE OK WELL THAT'S JUST FINE WE HAVE IT PINNED DOWN AS DISTINCT FROM TESTING FOUND THAT HE'S YELLING CORRECT YES. DID YOU SO WHEN DO WE TALK ABOUT

[157:01] THE USE REVIEW FOR CONGREGATED CARE AND SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF THINGS LIKE CLOTHES PARTICULARLY IN THINGS LIKE UM WITH THE COMPATIBILITY. I DON'T KNOW NOT HAVING MINIMUM PLANNING BOARD I FEEL A LITTLE IN THE DARK HERE BUT WITH TRANSPORTATION ISSUES THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH LIFE SAFETY I THINK AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE TALK ABOUT THOSE IN OUR FREE TALK ABOUT THEM LATER BUT IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE GOING TO USE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE CONGREGATE CARE AS WELL AS WHAT MY THING MARY MADE A GOOD POINT ABOUT YOU KNOW THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS RATHER THAN THERE'S A REASON THAT THE HOSPITAL. THEY'VE BEEN TO HOSPITALS THERE HAVE MOVED EAST IN TERMS OF USE AND SO WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE USE WITH THE KIND OF INTENSITY OF USE IDEAS FOR THIS PARTICULAR

[158:01] AREA HAS TO DO I THINK WITH BOTH COMPATIBILITY AND THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND IN THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA AGAIN I'D THROW IN THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A LONG IN THIS PARTICULAR POINT IS RAISED YOU'RE NOT LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE A DANCE THAT QUESTION IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE APPROACHING HIS CAR GET CARE IN THIS LOCATION FOR INSTANCE AND LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GETTING READY TO WRITE THE ANSWER THE QUESTION IS THIS WHERE WE WOULD TALK ABOUT SAY IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING HERE IN CASE OF EVACUATION NEEDED A FIRE SO THE SITE REVIEW CRITERIA AND SPECIFIC ABOUT FIRE AND EVACUATION THERE IS A BBC POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT WILDFIRE. WE DO HAVE MEMBERS OF OUR FIREFIGHTING STAFF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE. MAYBE NOW'S A GOOD TIME. IT DOES SEEM LIKE

[159:01] IT RELEVANT TO THE USE OF A MIRROR BUT WE HAVE AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SITTING HERE PATIENTLY AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE LONG DAY SO I WAS HOPING THAT THINGS THIS RATE THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES FOR ME UM FOR ME THE REST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS BUT THE NUMBER ONE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME IS LIFE AND SAFETY AND UNTIL THAT'S ADDRESSED. I COULDN'T HONESTLY CONSIDER THE REST I GUESS YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT I FORGOT THAT FOLKS WHO WERE WAITING HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF HERE TO REGIONAL BUT LET'S KEEP ASKING THE QUESTION IF THEY COULD I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN BUT IF THEY COULD ADDRESS THE SLOPE STABILITY AND POTENTIAL FOR LANDSLIDES AND SOME ON THERE THAT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL WELL OKAY SO I

[160:02] WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK ONE QUESTION SO THIS PROCESS INSTEAD BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TO TALK TO ALL OF THESE ARE LIKE YES DAVID OR LANE THE SITE PLAN REVIEW CRITERIA AS I READ IT CALLS IN THE COMP PLAN AND IT BASICALLY SAYS LAND USE MAP AND ON BALANCE THE POLICIES RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO USE REVIEW CRITERIA I DON'T SEE THE COMP PLAN CALLED AND EXPLICITLY AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR IS IT THERE WELL IT'S ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVE CRITERIA IN THE USE OF A NEW STRIP YOU CAN YOU TELL ME YOU SEE ME JUST FOR THAT TO SEE IT'S NECESSARY TO FOLLOW FOSTER POLICY PRESUMABLY SAFETY IS A POLICY IN THE COMP PLAN CAPITALS GO THOSE ARE CRITERIA THAT ARE USED TO JUSTIFY EITHER GENERALLY AN APPROVAL YOU CAN USE ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERN REALLY SLOW COULD YOU CITE THIS SECTION OF USE OR BE NINE TO FIFTEEN

[161:01] IT'S IT'S THE SECOND CRITERIA USES EITHER AND IT'S THERE'S A HOST OF AMTRAK SERVICE OR CONVENIENCE COMPATIBLE TRANSITION NECESSARY TO FOSTER POLICY AND JUST IF I COULD SENSE I GUESS SAM YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A SPECIFIC SPOT THE THIRD AND ELAINE JUST SAID IS NECESSARY TO FOSTER A SPECIFIC CITY POLICY AS IT HAS EXPRESSED IN THE BOULDER VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITED AS THE EFFECT COULD SAY SORRY NINE DASH TO DASH FIFTEEN AS YOU SERVE YOUR GUESTS YOU COULD GO WITH AN A OR B OR C E E Q OKAY GREAT THAT INTO YOU THANK YOU SEE GREAT ART EVERYBODY THERE IN THE CHART WHICH HELPS SUPER HELPFUL SUPER HELPFUL OK THE PARTIES CAN HAVE OUR WILDLAND FIRE PAINFUL. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE START OF THE ASHES HERE IS WHAT I REALLY HAD ONLY ONE

[162:02] ASTON THIS BE THE LEADING TO AN OKAY JOB. I JUST I WANT TO UNDERSTAND FROM FROM COUNCIL MAY BE FROM DAVID THIS SITE HAS MANY MANY USES BY RIGHT THAT INCLUDE THAT WOULD INCLUDE VULNERABLE POPULATION SO IT'S BEEN A HOSTEL FOR YEARS WOMEN HAVE BEEN GIVING BIRTH YOU KNOW IT'S VERY TOUGH TO EVACUATED A WOMAN WHO'S IN LABOR AS MUCH AS IT IS A SENIOR SO HOWARD GET WEAK IN A WAY IT'S IT'S CHALLENGING FOR ME TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE MAKING FIRE AND EVACUATION SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE WHEN BY RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE POTENTIAL EVEN MORE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ON THERE. WELL YEAH THERE ARE AND I THINK THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WITH THE CODE SAYS IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE GOALS WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ARE CONTRADICTORY FRANKLY AND IT ANTICIPATES

[163:01] THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO A BALANCING THAT THE COUNCIL DO A BALANCING WHEN IT DECIDES YOU KNOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT COMMUNITY GOAL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD SO IT'S REALLY WEIRD IT'S A DECISION FOR YOU. I THINK IT'S ALSO HARD TO TAG TEAM ON THEIR IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN THEIRS BY RIGHT USE IS THAT OUR WHOLE HOST OF INSTITUTIONAL TYPES OF USES THAT COULD MAKE EVACUATIONS CHALLENGING HOWEVER IN THIS CASE THEY HAVE A TWENTY FOUR SEVEN STAFF PROPOSED THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER MITIGATION MEASURES AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR OUR FIREFIGHTING STAFF TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERT OK END POINT WILL TAKE IN THE BI RATE USES FOR THIS PARCEL. CAN YOU JUST SHOW US IF YOU GET THE SLIDE OR JUST REMIND EVERYONE WHAT THOSE ARE. YUP I'VE GOT A SLIGHT HANDY RATE HERE THIS

[164:01] IS JUST A SHORT LIST BUT IT DOES HELP TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE IS SOME INSTITUTIONAL TYPES OF USES THAT COULD OCCUR HERE BY RIGHT WITHOUT YOU THREE B WAS THE POINT. SO THOSE ARE ON THE LEFT HOSPITALS ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS COLLEGES UNIVERSITIES AND SOME OF THOSE WOULDN'T THEN BE SUBJECT IF THEY'RE A STATE AGENCY FOR EXAMPLE OR A FEDERAL AGENCY THEY WOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO USE REVIEW OR A SITE REVIEW THROUGH THE CITY SO SOMETHING ELSE TO KEEP IN MIND OK THANK YOU THAT WE HAVE YOU ALL COME UP AND GOING TO FASHION A REASONABLE QUESTION TO ASK YOU BUT BASICALLY THE GOOD GUYS FOR BEING HERE HAS YET TO MAKE YOU WAIT SO WE BOTH TELL ME HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN IN

[165:00] THE FIRE SERVICE. WELL STOP INTRODUCING OURSELVES AND THE NEW PIN AND WHEN YOU INTRODUCE IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND. DAVE LOWRY ON THE FIRE MARSHAL WITH THE CITY OF BOULDER ALMOST TWENTY THREE YEARS NOW FOR YOU GUYS AND OBVIOUSLY IN THE FIRE SERVICE A FEW YEARS BEFORE THAT FOR COMING TO THE CITY OF BOULDER AND UMBRELLA FROM THE ISLAND DIVISION CHIEF FOR THE CITY BOULEVARD APARTMENT MIN IN FIRE SERVICE FOR TWENTY THREE YEARS EIGHTEEN OF THEM HERE FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE NOW AND WE'RE NOT UNDER TIME RESTRAINT EITHER I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW WE APPRECIATE THAT BUT YOU KNOW WE CAN BE HERE LONG AS YOU NEED US ALL I GUESS THE PART OF HER RESUSCITATION IF YOU CARRY NO MORE BUY IN PARTICULAR HAD TWO QUESTIONS SO BRIAN CAN YOU KIND OF GO OVER. HAVE YOU BEEN INVOLVED IN EVACUATIONS BEFORE THE ABSOLUTE OKAY AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCESS AND I GUESS SPECIFICALLY FOR

[166:02] THE EVACUATION WITHIN BOULDER MORE THE PROCESS IS FAIRLY CUMBERSOME IT USUALLY STARTS WITH THE NEW AND IN SOME KIND WE END UP DOING A WEEK ON EVERY BRIDGE OR REVERSED NINE ONE ONE WHO GOES BACK OUT TO THEM WHATEVER AFFECTED AREA WE DETERMINE NEEDS TO BE EVACUATED FOR THE AREA DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE OF THE EMERGENCY THOSE RESIDENTS TO GET THAT CALL. HOPEFULLY THEY RECEIVE IT. HEED OUR WARNINGS BACK UP THINGS THEY NEED TO GO OR EXERCISE THEIR IMMEDIATE EXIT THEN WE ALSO PUT IN LONG COURSE MEET IN A PLACE THAT WILL THEN GO DOOR TO DOOR AFTER THAT ENSURING THAT THERE'S NO RESIDENCE AND SAID YOU FIND THAT PEOPLE TEND TO HEED THE EFFECT IS MOST TIMES YES OK AND IS IT MORE. HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH SENIORS AND HAVING A DIFFICULTY OF GETTING THEM ON QUICKLY AND EASILY MOVED OUT OF THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE IN A KNOT IN MY EXPERIENCE IT DOESN'T YOU

[167:00] KNOW I'M NOT A DIRECT EXPERIENCE WITH YOU LIKE A FACILITY SUCH AS THIS RIGHT IN THE INTERFACE BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER PRESIDENTIAL ESPECIALLY A PLACE WITH TWENTY FOUR HOUR STAFF A DISASTER GENERIC QUESTION ON THIS SITE ARE THERE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE OR THERE ABOUT THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE WITH REGARD TO FIRE RISK MITIGATING IT. I MEAN IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION JARRETT QUESTION IS A GOOD QUESTION BUT IT'S WHAT WE DO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN REVIEW ON THE SITE REVIEW ON WHEN WE START LOOKING AT ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW SEND THIS SITE YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR LITERALLY THREE YEARS NOW THREE PLUS YEARS I'M A FOLLOWER AND I HAVE HAVE LOOKED AT THE SITE EVEN LITTLE MORE RECENTLY STUDIED IT LIKE THE TOPOGRAPHY LOOK AT THE FUELS AROUND THIS

[168:01] HISTORIC FIRES LOOKED AT THE LOCATION ACCESS TO THE SITE OR WATER AVAILABILITY TO THE SITE. WE EVEN MEASURED HOSE LAYS THAT WAY THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO GO AROUND THE SIDE IF WE HAD TO PULL THE HOSE. HOW CAN WE DEFEND THIS SITE IF A WILD FIRE WERE OCCURRING IN THIS AREA RIGHT AROUND AND YOU YOU KNOW WE CAME UP WITH. WE BELIEVE WE CAN ADEQUATELY DEFEND THE SITE WE ACTUALLY USE IT YOU CAN NEVER PREDICT WILDFIRE BUT WE BELIEVE IT'S A FAIRLY SAFE AREA AS FAR AS DEFENSE LOOKING AT MAPLE TO LOOKING UP FOR ST. LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF FUELS THAT SURROUND THIS SITE TO GET A TYPOGRAPHY AND ITS LOCATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HERO NOT AT THE TOP OF THE HILL FIRE BREAKS THAT UM THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TALKED AT LAST AT THE OPEN CLASS MEETING THAT WENT TO MIDNIGHT. YOU KNOW ABOUT THE FIRE BREAKS

[169:00] THAT ARE LOCATED ON TOP OF THE HIT ON THIS AROUND THIS SITE. YEAH YOU KNOW WE THINK WE'VE GOT A VERY MANAGEABLE SITE IS VERY DEPENDABLE SITE THAT'S BEEN LOOKED AT IN THIS LOCATION WE JUMP BACK TO LITTLE BIT OF THE EVACUATION AS WELL BECAUSE IT IS COMPLICATED RIGHT. THERE'S NO DOUBT WE CAN HAND IN TIME EVEN WHEN WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR EVACUATION ON THE INTERFACE AREA COMPLETELY ON THE WEST SIDE FOLDER. WE THAT THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK PRETTY RIGHT. I MEAN IT IS DIFFICULT WHETHER IT'S IT'S UM THIRTY YEAR OLDS EVACUATING OR WHETHER IT'S SIXTY FIVE SEVEN YEAR OLD EVACUATING RIGHT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GETS ON THE ROADS AT ONE TIME SO IT DOESN'T LOOK PRETTY WHEN IT'S HAPPENING BUT IS HAPPY IN THE ANSWER IS YES IT'S ALL DEPENDENT ON WILD FIRE WHEN THE EVACUATION IS CALLED FOR IS IT A DAY IN ADVANCE TWO

[170:00] DAYS IN ADVANCE OR ARE WE TRYING TO EVACUATE PEOPLE WITHIN HOURS AND IN THIS VERY DEPENDENT ON THAT THIS SITE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN MY NEW INDEPENDENT LIVING ON THIS SITE SO IT'S REALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS INDEPENDENT LIVING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND YOU HAVE WHAT IS THE LANE THE FORTY TWO BEDS AND TEN MEMORY CARE BED SO YOU HAVE FIFTY TWO INDIVIDUALS AND THERE THAT ARE GREEK REQUIRE ASSISTANCE AND EVACUATION AND THAT KIND OF FALLS BACK ON THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT ARE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP AN EMERGENCY PLAN FOR ALL SORTS NOT JUST WHILE FIRE BUT FOR OTHER WEATHER THREATS OR WAR OR HAZARDS THAT MAY OCCUR OR WRITE A BLIZZARD IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY ACTION PLAN FOR THAT THAT'S QUITE A STATE OF COLORADO TO LICENSE THOSE FACILITIES AS REQUIRED BY OR TOPIC FIRE CODE IS WELL IN A PROOF FROM

[171:00] US WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THEM. IF THIS IS APPROVED WHEN IT STARTS MOVING FOR IT TO SEE HOW THAT PLAN FOR EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW WILD FIRE PLAN HOW IF WE DID NEED TO EVACUATING WHAT WITH THAT PLAN LOOK LIKE AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IS IN THE BUS IS GOING TO BE REALLY LOOK AT THOSE FIFTY TWO INDIVIDUALS OR WE GET A PROTECTED PLACE BASED ON THE STREET SYSTEM BASED ON THE WATER THAT WE HAVE THERE BASED ON THE VEGETATION THE SLOPE YOU KNOW HARD AND CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED SINCE BEEN BUILT ANEW IN THE INTERFACE ARE GOING TO PROTECT HIM IN PLACE AT THAT TIME RIGHT. I MEAN CAN WE PROVIDE ADEQUATE STRUCTURE PROTECTION. WE THINK WE CAN YOU KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT OF REALLY INTENSE AND REALLY LONG SELF RELIANCE FEW DOES VERY VERY HELPFUL WITH A COUPLE FOLLOW UP SIR. CINDY LISA SENT SO I LIVE IN THE AREA BUT DOWNHILL IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THERE BEEN TWO NOTICES OF EVACUATION AND

[172:01] ONE EVACUATION. YES YES THAT WHEREVER YEAH I'VE BEEN I MEAN I WAS THERE THAT IS NOT YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THE PAST TWENTY YEARS WITH THE BEST WE CAN COME UP WITH IS TO EVACUATIONS AND I WASN'T SURE ON THE NOTICES. SO MY QUESTION IS HAVE YOU SEEN THERE WAS SOMEONE HERE SPEAKING AT BOTH THE OH SO AND AGAIN AT THE LONGER HEARING NAMED KAREN MCCLURE YES YES I WAS HERE AND SHE SPOKE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT SINCE THEN THE SANTA ROSA FIRE AND SHE SHOWED A SLIDE AT THE LAST ONE OF VILLA CAPRI AND I WENT ONLINE TODAY AND LOOKED AT THAT THEY HAD SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAD AND AS WE ALL KNOW THOSE FIRES IN SONOMA NAPA HAPPENED JUST LIKE THAT LET YOU FALL OR ADDRESS IS MUCH MORE THE EXPERT IN MATTERS SO SO IN THIS SENSE HAVE WE CAN'T PREDICT REALLY FIRE RATED HAPPENS LIKE THOSE. NO ONE

[173:01] PREDICTED THOSE THEY TOOK OUT LOTSA LIVES AND THIS IS A VULNERABLE POPULATION EVEN THOUGH THERE IS INDEPENDENT LIVING THERE STILL SENIORS AND THEY'RE NOT THERE ARE PEOPLE GOING TO GO INTO THEIR CARS IN THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE IN EVERY ONCE IN A PILE OUT ON MAPLETON WHAT ABOUT THE SURROUNDING AREAS FOR STREET ISN'T BEING THE INNOCENT IN TERMS OF REMOVING PEOPLE IN DEALING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IN TERMS OF EVACUATION. WE'VE BEEN HEARING MOSTLY THIS IS ANOTHER ISSUE EXCEPT ITS SENIORS ON A PRETTY NEAR WEEKLY BI WEEKLY BASIS EVERY TIME WE HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETINGS FROM THE FOLKS AT FRASIER MEADOWS WHO OSTENSIBLY HAD AN EVACUATION PLAN FOR THEIR FLOODING BUT THEY ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE FLOODING AND THE INABILITY AND THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAD GETTING OUT OF THAT LIFE SAFETY SITUATION AND THE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS WERE AT RISK. SO HOW DO YOU

[174:02] HOW DO YOU HOW YOU EQUALIZE THOSE THINGS YOU JUST SAY WELL WE GOT A PLAN ONE SOUL THAT DARES TO QUESTION HOW DO YOU DO YOU DATE GIVEN ON THE SAYINGS IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE SANTA ROSA I WANTED. I MEAN THAT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE AND SPEAKING TO THAT EXAMPLE THE SANTA ROSA ISSUE AND TO THAT THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY THAT WAS SEVERAL BLOCKS INTO TOWN IT WAS ENDING AND THIS THIS MIGHT ALMOST BE BETTER FOR HER TO FLORIDA BECAUSE IT WAS NO LONGER WILD FIRE ISSUE BY THE TIME IT THE FACILITY IT WAS URBAN CONFLAGRATION WAS HOME HOME IGNITION AT THE POINT WHEN TO GET TAN GREAT THINKER AND THAT'S AND TO SAY THAT THAT POTENTIAL DOESN'T EXIST YEARS BUT WOULD BE FALSE AND IT DOES HOWEVER THEY ALSO HAD YOU KNOW SEVERAL DAYS OF MOURNING WITH RED FLAG WARNINGS AND WEATHER HAVE DIFFERENT FUEL LOADING THEIR DIFFERENT FUEL TYPES DIFFERENT TOPOGRAPHY TO MAKE

[175:02] THE COMPARISON DOESN'T DOESN'T QUITE FIT THE BILL BUT TO YOUR POINT OF EVACUATING YOU KNOW I'LL USE THE FACILITY BUT ALSO OUR WATER POSSIBLY THIS RIGHT ON TOP OF THE SLOPE ON THE TOE SLOPE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FOREST PLAN FOR THEM IS TO NOT EVACUATE BECAUSE OF THAT BUILDING'S CONSTRUCTION IN THE THINGS THEY PUT IN PLACE DURING THAT'S ITS BUILDING AND THEIR STRUCTURE PROTECTION PLANS IT SAFER FOR THEM TO STAY THERE AND THAT THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION FOR THIS DISORDER IS WHAT WE HAVE A RESURGENCE AND THE SO I WAS TRYING TO FIND A SITE REVIEW ARE ONE OF OUR CRITERIA BUT UM IN IN THE TRANSFORMATION OF THIS PROPERTY IT'S GOING FROM HOSPITAL TO A FEW BUILDINGS WITH A FEW BUILDINGS TO A MUCH LARGER CAMPUS WITH MANY MORE BUILDINGS IN TOW I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF

[176:00] THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND WATER AND PIPES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT I ASSUME YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT AND THE FACILITIES THAT SUPPLY THE WATER AND WE HAVE GREAT WATER GREAT WATER PRESSURE PLENTY OF FLOW GALLONS PER MINUTE UP THERE WAS NOT ISSUED ITS TYPICALLY NEVER AN ISSUE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY WE HAVE A GREAT WATER SUPPLY BUT NOW WE HAVE COME A BETTER NETWORK OF ROADS UP THERE AS WELL INSTEAD OF TRYING TO WEAVE HER WAY THROUGH PARKING LOTS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO FIND ROADS TO THE SPILL LIENS TURNAROUND THAT WE CAN ACCESS THOSE HYDRANTS AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT YES WE HAVE A LOOK AT THE HYDRANTS ARE NOW ALSO COME BACK IN WHEN IT GOES. IF APPROVED THROUGH WITH THAT YOU KNOW THAT ACT OUT PROCESS WHERE WE START LOOKING AT THAT IN JANUARY BUT THAT'S ALL PART OF THE CIVIL PLAN AND UTILITY PLANTS THAT ARE FOR. SO IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT IT IT'S VERY GOOD YOU KNOW THE WATER HYDRANT LOCATIONS MEET OUR DESIGN AND

[177:01] CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS TO THINK YOU CAN GET TWO QUICK QUESTIONS ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT I'M THERE DUDE RUNNERS LOOKING TO THE PLANS AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST TIME WAS THAT THERE WAS SOME PLANNED TO PUT WATER LINE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL SOLD TO THE WEST OF THE NURSES STORMS SO THAT YOU WOULD BE EASY TO WHAT THE HILLSIDE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF AND CAN YOU TALK ABOUT LITTLE BIT. YET SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED AND MAY THE FAIRLY EASY. YES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT IT CAME OUT WE WERE YOU KNOW ARE SOME OF THOSE ITERATIONS OF THIS I PLAN SO WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH THE LANDSCAPE SCENE AND WHAT COULD BE DINE AND UM YOU KNOW COULD WE PUT THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE I SEE IT AS AS A FIRE BREAK AS AN ACCESS RIGHT. SOME OF THAT SLOPE DEPENDENT DIDN'T REALLY WORK OUT AND REQUEST THE MORE FIRE RESISTANT VEGETATION AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPE THE RIGHT TO HELP WITH THAT IN AS WE WERE

[178:01] DISCUSSING SOME OF THAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED SEEN THE IRRIGATION IS NEEDED. ALL READY FOR THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE AND COULD WE DESIGN THAT IRRIGATION SYSTEM TO PROVIDE AID AND A FIRE FLOW AND MAY NOT SUPPRESSION BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO WHET THAT VEGETATION BEFORE FIRE GETS TO THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST THE KIND THAT WE CAN GET IN THE CITY OF BOULDER AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WHERE IT'S GOING TO ALLOW EMERGENCY RESPONSE PERSONNEL CHIEF OLIVER AND HIS CREW'S REALLY IS WHAT WE LOOK AT TO BE ABLE TO MANUALLY OPERATED THAT IRRIGATION SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE A LONG YEAR AGAIN THAT LANDSCAPING ON THE WESTSIDE SOME KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AN EASY REALLY NEED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY GREAT AND I GUESS ANOTHER QUESTION WHEN I WATCHED THE FIRES THAT HAVE COME AND BOULDER FROM THE WEST SIDE THE LAST COUPLE OF THEM. IT

[179:00] SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE MOSTLY BEEN BACKING FIRES BY THE TIME THEY CRESTED THE HILLS AND THEN KIND OF SLOWLY CREPT DOWN IS THAT WHERE YOU FORSEE FOR THIS UM LOOK AT AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH THAT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A BAND OF TREES THAT RUNS NORTH SOUTH BUT IT'S NOT VERY LONG EAST WEST SO WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FIRE BEHAVIOR TO BE. IF YOU ADD A FIRE THAT STARTED HALF MILE WEST OF HERE AND WAS DRIVING TOWARDS THIS IN YEARS TO THE RIGHT WITH THE WITH THE SLOPE BEING FIRE BURNS MUCH MORE READILY UPHILL THAN DOWNHILL AND IT'S ONE THOSE THINGS SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A BACKING FIRE THE FEW TRANSITIONS THAT HAPPENED AS YOU COME LOWER DOWN THE SLOPE INTO A MORE DRASTIC COMPONENT ALSO HAVE THE DITCH AND A COUPLE OTHER WATER FEATURES THAT ARE KIND OF RIGHT BEHIND THERE THAT WOULD ALSO PRODUCE MORE OF A VARIANT OF VEGETATION THAT WOULD ALSO SLOW FIRE SPREAD SO I THINK FIRE BEHAVIOR UNLESS DRIVEN BY A VERY HARD IN THE OCEAN TO TYPE WHEN FIFTY SIXTY MILES AN HOUR EVEN THEN THAT YOU'LL

[180:00] TRANSITION WITH A LIGHTER FUEL WOULD STILL ALLOW US A PRETTY SOLID CHANCE OF KEEPING THE FIRE FROM IMPACTING THE BUILDING CRANE THE LAST QUESTION. IT LOOKS TO ME LOOKING AT THIS OF OUR LAYING OUT A FIRE PROTECTION PLAN FOR FIRE MOVING TOWARDS BOULDER IT SEEMS LIKE THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD PLACE TO ANCHOR FROM I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE A YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT A PLACE TO SHELTER IF YOU NEED TO FALL BACK AND SHELTER BUT ALSO LOOKS LIKE YOU BETTER PLACE WHERE YOU COULD DRAW A LINE UP TO THE TOP OF THAT HILL AND PERHAPS FIGHT OVER SO COULD YOU TALK ABOUT HOW THIS IF IT WERE TO DEVELOP OR EVEN NOW WOULD SERVE AS A PLACE TO PROTECT THE CITY FROM OUR WILDLAND FIRE COMING FROM THE WEST. ABSOLUTELY THERE'S SEVERAL NATURAL AND MANMADE FABRICS THAT THE TAKE OFF RIGHT FROM THAT THE SITE YOU NEED TO BE A CANYON GOING UP FOR ST. REMOVE FAT JUST PAST THE SIDE THERE'S THIS NEWS VALLEY TRAIL REALLY GOOD SO THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS IN THERE AND UTILIZING

[181:00] THE PARKING STRUCTURES AND SOME OF THIS PLACE IS A STAGING AREAS WE CAN GET ACCESS TO FIREFIGHTERS AND FIRE CREWS AND YOU ABSOLUTELY JUST AS YOU SAID YOU LIES THAT IS KIND OF AN ANCHOR POINT TO START BUILDING A FIRE LINE NORTH OR SOUTH TO KEEP THE FIRE FROM IMPACTING THE CITY. X OKAY SO WE GET ON THIS. THIS WAS VERY HELPFUL OK HERE WE IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY IN VERY LATE START WE JUST LOOKED AT AND SAID THE FINE BUSINESS THIS IS THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN LIGHTLY WE'VE REALLY STUDY THIS IN DEPTH COULD YOU THANK YOU. OKAY UM IF WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'RE DONE WITH THESE CRITERIA BUT WHAT OTHER OTHER MAJOR THINGS LIKE TALK ABOUT BEFORE WE GO TO THE PEACE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE OTHER BIG ONE ON THE ISSUES YOU RAISE IT

[182:00] SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN GET TO SITE REVIEW ON THE SAME KICKS BACK TO THIS BUT A MINUTE IN TERMS OF BIG ISSUES THEY DO HAVE A QUESTION THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPLICABLE TO THIS ARE NOT IN IT. IT HAS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE NORMALLY DEAL WITH THIS BUT IN THIS THIS IS A PLAN TO BE A PRETTY LARGE DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO PRETTY LARGE DEMOLITION LOT OF MATERIALS BEING TAKEN DOWN. SO HOW SO HOW ARE THE ROAD TO COUNT IT FOR SO AN END AND IF I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK THAT TELL ME THAT UM BUT UM HOW ARE THE ROADS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THEIR MAINTENANCE AND THEIR UPKEEP AND NOON. I'D ALSO BE

[183:06] CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THE ROUTES AND HOW HOW ROUTE TO GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED AND IF THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE LESS IMPACT ON JUST ONE STREET OR IS HE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED. SO THAT'S KIND OF A MULTI PRONGED QUESTION PAY A PART OF IT IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE FOR EDWARD STAFFORD THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER FOR ENGINEERING IN THE OTHER PART IS PROBABLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE FIRST OF THE APPLICANT GOOD EVENING AT STAFFORD DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MANAGER FOR WORKS WHICH INCLUDES INFRASTRUCTURE UTILITIES AND TRANSPORTATION IN A SITE REVIEW MANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY NOT THINGS WE LOOK AT SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF HAUL ROUTES CONDITION EXISTING CONDITIONS OF ROADS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THOSE ARE THINGS TO HAUL ROUTES THOSE TYPES OF PIECES THAT ARE CONSIDERED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS

[184:01] OF PERMITTING PROCESS SEEN IN OTHER PROJECTS LIKE PRO WEST CURRENT EAST POINT WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PERMITS AND WERE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH CONTRACTORS WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT THE MOST APPROPRIATE HAUL ROUTES OUT OF WORK THOSE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM WHERE THE APPROPRIATE STAGING AREA IS FOR THE TRUCKS TO WHAT THE CORRECT ROUTES ARE TO ENSURING THEY UNDERSTAND ORDER NOISE ORDINANCE IN CONSTRUCTION TIME LIMITS ARE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ASPECTS AS IT RELATES TO PAVEMENT CONDITION WE HAVE CERTAINLY HEARD THOSE CONCERNS THAT HAVE TALK WITH OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT GROUP ALSO ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATED TO MAPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAD CONCERNS WHILE WE'VE DONE THAT AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY COME BACK AND SAID THE ROAD WILL NOT IN PERFECT CONDITION IS AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITION AND THE POOR NOT OVERLY CONCERNED WITH ANYTHING WHAT HAPPENED AS OF RESULT WAS CONSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY A FAIRLY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL LIFETIME OF THE ROAD NO LIFETIME TRAFFIC IT WOULD HAVE OUT THERE THAT BEING THE CASE STILL IT'S ALSO ONE OF THOSE WAS NOT A SPECIFIC SITE REVIEW CRITERIA IN FACT WE CAN BE PRETTY HARD

[185:01] PRESSED TO BE OLDER TO DEMONSTRATE DIRECT DAMAGES BY ANY ONE TRUCKER SET OF TRUCKS WHICH IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SHOW HER TRY REQUIRE WITH REQUIRE ANY MONETARY COMPENSATION OR REPAIR OUTSIDE OF THE AREAS THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT DIRECTLY IMPACTED THAT WHAT THEY DO IN FRONT OF THE SITE WHEN THEY CUT INTO THE STREET TO PUT WATER LINE AND COULDN'T REPLACE CURB AND GUTTER OR MAY CONTRACT MODIFICATIONS OF THE STANDARDS WITH THOSE REPLACEMENTS HAVE TO BE BUT DIDN'T FOLLOW THEM DOWN THE ROAD TO DETERMINE THEIR IMPACT VERSUS THE GENERAL WEAR AND TEAR OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND REALLY WHAT'S ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE A RIGHT TO USE THE ROAD FOR MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAT THE ONLY PORTION THAT WE DO THAT IN OUR CITY CODE RELATES TO NEW PAVEMENTS AND WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT IF THEY CUT INTO PAVEMENT LESS THAN THREE YEARS OLD UNDER TITLE EIGHT NOT TITLE NINE THAT THEIR SPECIFIC FEE TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT PAPER IN DAMAGE BEYOND THAT IT'S CONSIDERED PART OF A NORMAL LIFE

[186:01] PAVEMENT AND SO WHEN PEOPLE OPERATE TOLL ROADS IS THE REASON THAT THEY CHARGE LARGE TRUCKS A DIFFERENT RATE THAN THEY CHARGE PASSENGER CARS THEY'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCE IN WEIGHT AND THE IMPACT OVERALL TO THE ROAD EACH CAR EACH VEHICLE HAS A CERTAIN IMPACT IN YES THE MORE AXLES THE MORE TIRES THE MORE WEIGHT ON THOSE TIRES HAS A ADDITIONAL IMPACT THE ROAD SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THIS IS A PRETTY SEVERE DIFFERENCE I MEAN YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF EIGHTEEN WHEELERS HAULING CRUSHED CONCRETE GOING UP AND BACK ON MAPLE TURN OR PINE OR YOU SEE SOMEONE CANYON BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT SO IT DOES SEEM LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY A MUCH HIGHER TRAFFIC LOAD OF MUCH HEAVIER TRAFFIC AND THE DAMAGE TO THE ROAD GOES YOU KNOW IT'S BEYOND SUPPORT POWER OF THE WAY TO THE VEHICLE AND SO IT SEEMS

[187:00] CRAZY THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE WOULDN'T TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE SITE PLAN REVIEWS SO THIS JUST A COMMENT TO THE CITY STAFF HERE WHICH IS YOU KNOW IF IT'S FROM GOING UP AND DOWN CANYON OR YOU MARRY THE NINETY THREE I MIGHT BUY THAT ARGUMENT THAT YEAH WELL YOU KNOW DOES NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY MORE THAN WHAT USUALLY GOES UP MOST OF THESE SMALL ROADS AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER MUCH MORE THAN THIS HERE BUT I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRAZY NOT TO TRY AND YOU KNOW SOMEBODY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT DAMAGE BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S DEMONSTRABLY GOING TO BE MUCH MORE THAN ITS PEAK. IF IT DID NOT HAPPEN AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING A LOOK AT THAT OR THINKING ABOUT IT BUT IT WOULD SEEM JUST CRAZY THAT WE WOULDN'T TRY AND GET SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION FOR THE SUBSIDY ORGAN BE PUTTING TOWARDS HIS PRIVATE BENEFIT

[188:02] ONE THING I WOULD REMIND THAT THERE IS A MECHANISM OVERALL THAT COLLECTS PAYMENTS FOR GAS TAX FUEL TAX WHICH IS PARTIALLY RELATED TO AND TO THOSE DAMAGES GRANITE THAT IS NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM RELATED THAT IS PART OF HOW AN OVERALL LARGER SCHEME WEAR AND TEAR OF PAVEMENT IS CONSIDERED THE TRAFFIC CAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY AND THAT THE SYSTEM NOT UNLIKE TOLL ROAD EXAMPLES JUST CLICKED IN A MUCH DIFFERENT WAY. THE GAS TAX THAT I'M NOT AWARE IF WE DO RECEIVE A PORTION OF THE GAS TAX AND CAN WE DIRECT TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE AND IN PARTICULAR KNOW THAT THERE'S EXTRA GAS BEING EXPENDED DRIVING UP AND NOW MAPLETON. THAT'S A BUDGET AND CIP DISCUSSION OF WEIGHT SINCE YOU'RE HERE NOT LOOKING FOR MORE DISCUSSION BUT YOU RAISE TRANSPORTATION SO I THINK THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION ISSUE BUT THE OTHER IS TRANSPORTATION. WHILE IT'S IN USE. WHELAN ALSO WHEN YOU

[189:00] BRING BACK THE RING THAT UP ALSO COME IN TO ME THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT FOR EVACUATION ROUTES AND THINGS LIKE THAT YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAPLE TO AN END. IF YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF MAPLETON AND BROADWAY I DON'T KNOW OF THAT. ANYWAY I I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH THE DEVELOPERS SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A PLAN ON HOW TO GET SOME EMERGENCY AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PLAN AND IT JUST RIGHT OK MAYBE THAT WHICH IS SHARED WITH US SO I MEAN MAPLETON IS VERY STEEP AS YOU COME TO TERM AND BROADWAY SHOW ANYWAY I WAS JUST WONDERING IS HE CAN GO DOWN FORCE AND THEN ACROSS ON BOSS AND I TO UNITE JUST DON'T KNOW IN THEIR ZONE SPECIFIC TRAFFIC STUDY TO AN EVACUATION PATTERN. THERE IS A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS COMPLETED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STANDARDS IN THE CITY'S DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE SITE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WHERE THAT FLOWS THROUGH WHAT THOSE IMPACTS

[190:00] MAY BE THAT REPORT DID COME BACK AND SHOW ADEQUATE CAPACITY THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND IN FACT EXPECT THERE'D BE LESS OVERALL TRAFFIC THAN THE HEIGHT OF HOSPITAL OPERATING A FORCE THAT SOME TIME AGO WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND THE ANALYSIS IS ACTUALLY BASED ON CURRENT ACCOUNTS AND PROJECTION. OK THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OPPOSING THE MOVE TO THE ISSUE OF SAND THE ONE YOU WANT TO RAISE ABOUT THE YES AND HER MORTGAGE OR SO HE GETS THIS QUESTION AS TO DAVID PROBABLY FIRST AND FOREMOST DAVID I MEAN I FOLLOWED EVERYTHING THAT THE STAFF SAID ABOUT THE ZONING MAN AND WHAT THE ZONING REQUIRES BUT WHEN I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT IS LAND USE REQUIREMENTS AND UM I GUESS WHAT IS MOSTLY HERE'S WHAT IT SAYS ALL READ

[191:00] IT FOR THE WHO DIDN'T GET MY HOTMAIL THIS CATEGORY INCLUDES NEW SPAWN UTILITY SERVICES ALSO INCLUDES ALL THE WAYS THAT COMPETENCE TO LAND USE DESIGNATION ENCOMPASSES A WIDE RANGE OF AND PRIVATE NON PROFIT USES THAT PROVIDE A COMMUNITY SERVICE THEY ARE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND SO THIS HAS A LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THIS PROJECT IS A FOR PROFIT PROJECT SO HAD EVERY SQUARE THAT WITH THE LAND USE REQUIREMENTS ON THE COMP PLAN I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS IN SITE PLAN REVIEW THE FIRST PART OF OUR REVIEW CRITERIA BASICALLY SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO FIND TO PROVE IT THAT IT FOLLOWS THE LAND USE DESIGNATION MATT FOUND IN THE COMP PLAN SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. OK I'LL

[192:02] GIVE A CRAP I'M SO IN THE COMP PLAN THERE ON PAGE ONE O EIGHT. THERE IS A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE AND SEMI USES AND IT HAS A BUNCH OF THINGS AND IT SAYS AND MAY INCLUDE OTHER USES AS ALLOWED BY STONING. SO THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE COMP PLAN THAT RECOGNIZES THAT THERE MAY BE THINGS NOT ON THE LAST IS IN THE COMP PLAN THAT COULD BE PUT IN A SO SO BUT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE CHARACTERISTICS AND LOCATION SECTION. WELL I'M READING FROM THAT SECTION FROM FROM THE US'S PART OF THE CORRECT PART OF THE DEFINITION OF RIGHT IT'S THE PART BELOW THAT MAY INCLUDE OTHER USES BUT THE US'S DOESN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER ITS FOR PROFIT OR NON

[193:04] PROFIT AND SINCE THE ANSWERS RIGHT ABOVE THEIR END NONPROFIT GOODIES IT SAYS RIGHT ABOVE THERE THERE WERE DAVID JUST QUOTED IT SAYS AND NONPROFIT FACILITIES SUCH AS ITS HEADER ET-CETERA AND MAY INCLUDE OTHER USES SO IT'S TALKING ABOUT NON PROFIT USES I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN INTERPRETED IN THE PAST AND TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT SO I'VE PUT IN MY REQUEST THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW SUNRISE CAME TO BE THE ONLY FOR PROFIT. I COULD FIND AS I LOOK THROUGH THINGS IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AREA START AT SUNRISE ASSISTED LIVING NOT WHEN THE SUN COMES UP THE SUNRISE ASSISTED LIVING. YES SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A PRUDE AROUND TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT WAS PART OF A SITE REVIEW

[194:00] IT'S EVIDENTLY HAS BEEN PART OF THE ELKS CLUB AT ONE TIME BUT IT WAS SUBDIVIDED AS I UNDERSTAND IT. SUNRISE ASSISTED LIVING IS A FOR PROFIT CORPORATION. I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES HERE IS THAT OUR ZONING AT THE USES THAT ARE IN OUR ZONING CODE ARE NOT SPECIFIC TO SAY IT MUST BE NOT FOR PROFIT CONGREGATE CARE DOES NOT ZONING RIGHT THIS IS ABOUT LAND USE DEPARTED ZONING IS MORE AMBIGUOUS IT JUST SAYS WHAT IT SAYS THERE BUT WHEN I'M TRYING TO SCORE DAVID IS SO YOU ARE YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING THAT WE HAVE INTERPRETATION LATITUDE AROUND HOW WE READ HOW NON PROFIT MODIFIES USES. WELL I GUESS I WOULD KIND OF LOOK AT READING EVERYTHING TOGETHER SO ANOTHER PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ADDITION TO THE STUFF THAT I

[195:00] JUST READ IT ALSO REFERS TO THE ZONING CODE AND IT IT SAYS I'M READING FROM PAGE NINETEEN OF THE COMP PLAN WHEREAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP PROVIDES GENERALIZE PICTURE OF DESIRE FOR USES IN THE BOULDER VALLEY THE CITY ZONING MAP ASSIGNS EVERY PARCEL OF LAND IN THE CITY ZONING DISTRICT AND STANDARDS LAND USE CODE REGULATES ALLOWABLE USES DENSITY SETBACKS HEIGHT AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON BUT I THINK THAT WHEN YOU READ EVERYTHING TOGETHER IN THE I THINK THAT IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS AN AMBIGUITY THAT YOU WOULD THE ZONING CODE WOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THE COMP PLAN BUT I GUESS IF THIS WEREN'T SO SPECIFIC I MEAN THAT THE STRUGGLE I'M HAVING WITH THIS AND THIS IS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE GOVERNING DOCUMENT AND WHAT IT IS BECAUSE THIS THIS AS IT PROVIDES A GENERALIZED PICTURE BUT IN THE DEFINITION

[196:01] OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION USES THE WORD NONPROFIT TWICE SO MARY BROUGHT THIS UP INITIALLY AND IT'S REALLY BEEN A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY AS A WHOLE TELL ME LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHERE YOU JUST READ AND HOW THAT WOULD KIND OF MEAN THAT NON PROFIT COULD BE BROADER THAN THAT. WELL I THINK THAT THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT IS THAT WE HAVE SOME NON PROFIT USE USES IN THE USE CHARTS AND WE SAY NON PROFIT MEMBERSHIP CLUBS WE SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT AND WE DON'T SAY THAT WITH OTHER USES. I WOULD INTERPRET THE HEAD WHEN YOU DON'T SAY IT'S A NONPROFIT SPECIFICALLY IN THE IN THE USE CHARTS OF THE ZONING CODE BUT IF YOU CAN'T IMPLY THAT LIMITATION THE END OF ORIENTATION QUESTION DAVID I WENT TO THAT PAGE IN THE COMP PLAN THAT

[197:00] YOU MENTION PAGE NINETEEN AND I COULDN'T FIND WHAT YOU ARE READING. OKAY UM SO I'M LOOKING AT TWENTY FIFTEEN UPDATE FINAL IT'S IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER WITH PAGE NINETY TO NINETEEN OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO SEIZE LAND USE CODE AND ZONING REGULATIONS AND I HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION BECAUSE GIVEN WHAT SAM HAS SAID AND MARY AND THAT THERE'S A LIST OF THESE FROM OTHER ESTABLISHED USES FOUND THE ONLY ANOMALY ANOMALY IN THEIR FOR PROFIT IS THE SUNRISE CENTER AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE LARGE NUMBER OF OTHERS THAT ARE ALL NON PROFIT SO IT SEEMS AS THOUGH ONE IS FOLLOWING THE ANOMALY HERE RATHER THAN THE COMMON USE FOR THIS KIND OF ZONING DISTRICT I MEAN I

[198:01] THINK THAT THE LEGAL ANSWERS WITH DAVID SAYING BUT I DID I DID FIND ANOTHER ONE THE ON TWENTIETH STREET NORTH OF PEARL THE SHOPPING AREA THAT'S NEXT TO WHOLE FOODS AS THE PANDA EXPRESS AND IT ALSO HAS THE LAND USE DESIGNATION JUST SOUTH OF THE YMCA. MAYBE HE'S DONE AND THEY SOLD OFF PIECE I'M SEEING SOME ON EAST PEARL ALSO WHETHER SOME PRIVATE ISSUES CAN AND COME IN UNDER THE SUN RAYS AND SENIOR CENTER THAT PROPERTY WAS SUBDIVIDED OUT OF THE ELKS PROPERTY BACK IN I DON'T KNOW ME MIGHT IN TWO THOUSAND BUT THAT CAME OUT OF THE NORTH BOULDER SAID COMMUNITY PLAN AND I THINK THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE ELKS WAS SOMETHING LIKE TWENTY SIX ACRES AT THE TIME AND THEN THEY SUBDIVIDED AND SOME OF IT BECAME A PARK WHICH IS NOW THE ELKS PARK AND THEN THEY RETAINED PART OF THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE IT OPEN FOR USE AND SO I DON'T

[199:03] KNOW HOW AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW MANY ACRES SINCE THE RACE BUT IT PROBABLY STARTED BECAUSE SO LAND USE DESIGNATION WAS TO START WITH BRIGHT BUT THEY ESTABLISHED A SEPARATE USE ON A SEPARATE PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THEY PUT A USE I WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING BY ALEX WE ALL KIND OF RECALL THAT FROM THE PAST BUT THE ELKS WAS INTERESTED IN SELLING OFF PART OF THEIR PROPERTIES I THINK BASICALLY TO HELP MAINTAIN A SUSTAINABLE ORGANIZATION THEY THEY UM I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THEY CAN GO TO THIS NOW BUT YOU KNOW THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH ITS LAND USE DISAGREE WITH THAT PLAN DESIGNATION TO YOU. IT

[200:01] STARRED TWO TO TWO DIFFERENT TYPES ONE IS RL ONE AND ONE IS AND THAT FOR I STARTED SOMETIME BACK WERE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WHAT DO YOU PICK FIRST WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE IS THE USE OR DO YOU RESPECT THE UNDERLYING DESIGNATION SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT'S RL ONE NP AND IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT WAS ALL P BUT THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO OUR OLD ONE. TELL ME WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE ARE DOING ONE THING ONE WAY ON THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY THE TRAILHEAD OR WHATEVER AND ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD DO IN THE OTHER IN THE OPPOSITE WELL I THOUGH A NEED THAT EXPLAINED THIS WHOLE UNDERLYING DESIGNATION. I CAN

[201:01] ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HOW IT BECAME HAS DESIGNATED AS AND THE COMP PLAN BUT IN THIS CASE THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY ASKING THAT HE GETS ZONING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION. SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN TRAILHEAD WHICH HAD A BUNCH OF CONFLICTING LINES ON THE MAP THAT WERE BOTH OUR OLD ONE AND HAVE TO DEAL THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME OF THE TRAIL HEADS ITS REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT WAS THE AREA PLAN THAT WE DID AND WE RESOLVE THOSE LAND USE ISSUES WHAT WITH THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE BASED ON ZONING LINE THAT WENT IN OR SELL. I BELIEVE IN YOURSELF AND I WAS SORTING LINE WHEN THE EAST WEST THE RESULT THAT THROUGH IT TO AN AREA PLAN PROCESS AND WE WE AMENDED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLAN

[202:01] TO USE MAP TO MAKE IT ALL ARE ALL ONE AFTER THAT AREA PLAYED WAS STUNNED AND THEN IT WAS REZONED IN A MANNER CONSISTENT WITH THAT THEREAFTER HEAD HAS SERVED IN ANY DISCUSSION OF THE AREA PLAN TRUE SIGHT I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. SO THERE WAS IN THE CONTEXT OF THE UM THE TRAILHEAD THE JUNIOR ACADEMY AREA PLANNED. THERE WAS A LOT OF ADVOCACY I GUESS TO TAKE THE WHOLE AREA AS A WHOLE RATHER THAN A SINGLE PARCEL AREA PLANT THEM BUT I THINK THAT YEAR POINT IS THAT IT'S LOOKING AT JUST THAT ONE PARCEL THE AREA PLAN FOR THE JUNIOR ACADEMY WAS CREATED. IF YOU EXPAND YOUR VIEW. WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO EXPAND TO EXTEND THE SAME LOGIC IN TERMS OF HOW IT WAS

[203:00] EVENTUALLY DESIGNATED AFTER THE AREA PLANNED. WHY NOT EXTEND THAT SOUTH RIGHT THAT I AM THAT ROOM HUNG UP HERE YET SO THEY DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THEM WHEN YOU SAID THAT DURING THAT AREA PLANNED THE LAND USE WAS MODIFIED. I THOUGHT THAT WE CAN ONLY MODIFY THE LAND USE DESIGNATION WE GET A COMP PLAN UPDATE OR AT MY CAT REGULAR PERIOD IN BETWEEN. I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS HOW WE DID A PLEA WAS AT FIRST WE DID THE AREA PLAN THE AREA PLAN HAD RECOMMENDED LAND USE DESIGNATION AND MY RECOLLECTION THIS IS THAT WE CLEANED IT UP IN THE NEXT STEP IN ACCEPTING OK DOESN'T OWN AND THEN LIED TO MORE QUESTIONS ONE FOR ERIN ERIN COULD YOU POINT OUT TO ME THE LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT'S KEPT PRIVATE BECAUSE THAT WOULD HELP ME IN WITH PAIGE

[204:00] ARE YOU IN THE COW I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE TIME LOOKING AT THE MAP TO GUESS SO THIS IS SOO IF YOU'VE GOT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PLAYER TO DO. YES AND THEN YOU GO TO PEARL STREET AND TWENTY EIGHT I'M RIGHT THERE AND THEN THE NORTHEAST CORNER IS PURPLE AND THEN JUST ABOVE THAT IS BLUE WHICH IS THE LAND USE AGENCY THAT THE NORTHERN TWO THIRDS OR THREE QUARTERS OF THAT ARE THE YMCA BUT A FEW OF THOSE SOUTHERN QUARTER. IF YOU TURN OFF THE LAYER FROM IN AND LOOK AT THE UNDERLYING PARCELLS IS CLEARLY THAT STRIP MALL THAT HAS THAT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS WHEN I LOOK AT THE CLICK ON THEIR RIGHT TO LET ME GUESS YOU'RE AT TWENTY NINE O FIVE PEARL ST YES IF YOU GO DOWN AND LOOK IT SAYS ECP AREA WON. SO LOT OF TIMES IF YOU GET IN THE ONE ABOVE IF YOU CLICK ON WHERE THE YMCA IS A NERD AND

[205:00] LOOK IT SAYS ZONING BUT HE PLANNED USE PUB AND SO ANYWAY I'M CONFUSE BECAUSE YES HAS THE SAME COLOR BUT THEN THE LOT INFORMATION DOESN'T SHOW THE WILL DOES OWNING IS NOT REASONING IS BCC TO BUT SO IT DOESN'T SAY PUB ANYWHERE DOWN AND SAYS NOLL A CB IT IS LAND YOU SEE BEFORE THEM FOR THAT SORT SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHICH COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. JUST LOOK AT THE COLORS SO THAN LEE MILLER IS WHAT IT SAYS A LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AS COMMERCIAL GUESS I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE IS IN JAIL THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW I WAS ON THE SAME ONE IT WAS ON PAROLE AND WAS ON THE SAME ON OK BECAUSE IF THERE'S MULTIPLE EXAMPLES AND THAT'S ONE THING IF THERE'S A SINGLE ON A LITTLE LIGHTER OK THAT'S ALL FROM THE NOW I DON'T THINK SO IT SAYS COMMERCIAL AND SLANDEROUS MAYBE NOT KNOW THE COLORS ARE BLUE WHETHER THAT MATTERS BUT I'LL JUST JUST OPINED THAT THE GUARD OR CITY

[206:01] ATTORNEY HAS GIVEN US A LEGAL OPINION THAT SOUNDS SOLID. IT DISAPPEARED IT WOULD WAIVE THE TEN WITH A THIRD THAT THEIR C TOURNEY HAS SAID THAT THEY DID THAT FOR PROFIT USES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS SOON IN THIS LAND USE. DAVID METAL COVER THE CERTAIN SOMEONE THAT I MISS BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT'S ON THAT PARCEL CLEARLY ISN'T ONE I MEAN HOW HOW DID THEY GET THAT OFFICE MEDICAL BUILDING ON THERE TO BEGIN WITH YOU OF THIS IN HISTORY IT'S A LITTLE SKETCHY BUT THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME AROUND TWO THOUSAND I BELIEVE ARE TWO THOUSAND AND FIVE WHERE IT ACTUALLY WAS ON AND THEN THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE REZONING IT BECAME OUR OLD ONE ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION AND THE STAFF NOW ON TO EXPLAIN WHY IT WAS A MAP TO AS OUR ALLY AND FRIEND OKAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR OLD ONE TO AS IN WE'RE CHANGING A GROUP OF OUR OLD ONE HOMES TO . IT'S

[207:00] IT'S A PARKING LOT IN EXISTING MEDICAL BUILDING THAT WERE LOOKING AT JUST ESSENTIALLY SAYING HEY MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ZONING THAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE RIGHT AND HAVE BEEN FOR MANY YEARS AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THE REZONING WAS THE EASIEST OF THE THREE BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MAKING AN UNDERLYING ZONING MATCH THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION. IT'S SO NEW THAT THAT TO ME IS THE EASIEST OF THREE. WELL HEY MAYBE WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENT. WELL HOW DID LITTLE TO FURTHER CONFUSE THINGS THE WHEN I LOOK AT THE ACADEMY ON THE HILL THE UNDERLYING LAND USE IS BUT THE ZONING IS R A ONE SO I MEAN I THINK YOUR QUESTION LISA ABOUT WHAT COMES FIRST WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE OR WHAT IT IS THAT'S GOOD

[208:00] QUESTION WOULD THEY CHANGE TO FIGURE OUT THE ALLOWED USE IN THE ZONING IS THE BOTTOM LINE SAID CONGREGATE CARE IS AN ALLOWED USE TRIAL ONE KNOWN IN THE PUBLIC'S OWN HITS NOT PERMITTED IN OUR OLD ONE SO THE ACADEMY IS NOT CONGREGATE CARE. IT IS CONGREGATE CARE BUT TODAY THE ACADEMY WAS APPROVED IN ITS SET OF REGULATIONS THAT WE NO LONGER HAPPEN OR CODE BUT WE USE TO HAVE STANDARDS THAT FOR NON CONFORMING USE REUSE ALLOWED A GREAT DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOW THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE SO A LOT OF THE UNUSUAL AND THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU TRY TO SQUARE UP ZONING WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. IT WAS APPROVED UNDER A DIFFERENT REGULATORY REALM WILL WEAR STH OR PREDICTABILITY. WELL I GUESS TO ANSWER THAT AFTER

[209:01] THE AFTERWARDS WE CHANGED THE RULES TO ADD MORE PREDICTABILITY TO WHAT COULD BE DONE IN NON CONFORMING USE REVIEWS SO SO THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT CHANGE IN LAW THE IMPLICATIONS OF CHANGING IT NOW SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD OR COULDN'T. IS THAT IT AFFECTS THE OVERALL NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE SITE SO THAT'S WHY WE WOULD BOTHER TO DO IT BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU CAN EXIST IN A CITY AND HAVE YOUR LAND USE IN YOUR ZONING OUT OF WHACK. I CRACKED SHELL THAT THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND THE DIFFERENCE IF WE DO DO IT VERSUS DON'T DO IT WHAT IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS IT LOOKS LIKE YOU IT WAS ONE OF THE COTTAGES THE FREESTANDING COTTAGES BUT THAT'S JUST A ROUGH CALCULATION PERHAPS THE APPLICANT HAS DONE THAT TO A GREATER DEGREE AND TRIED TO FIT ON THERE BUT THAT WAS NEVER THE INTENT THE INTENT WAS TO ALIGN THE TWO. OK SO I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO RESOLVE THIS. THE INTENT TO

[210:00] ALIGN THE LAND USE AND ZONING HAS SOME LOGIC TO IT IT DOESN'T IT SOUND LIKE IT HAS SOME IMPLICATIONS FOR SURE BUT NOT RADICAL IMPLICATIONS MOM SO I HAVE A PROPOSAL ON TO HAVE A RESULT THIS SINCE WHAT IS DESIGNED INTO THE SITE PLAN IS THAT COTTAGES ALONG THE FOUR STREET FRONTAGE THAT COULD BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN FOURTH STREET JUST TO THE NORTH SO YOU COULD MAKE THAT IRA ONE SINCE ITS COTTAGES AND THEN THE COUPLE IN OR FROM THAT CONGREGATE CARE AND THEN ALSO MAKE THE AMENITIES THAT CREATE CONGREGATE CARE KIND OF ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM JUST AS HAS

[211:00] BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE FULL HOUSE DOING THE SAME MENU OF OPTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED FOR CONGREGATE CARE TO COUPLE THEM AND THEN PROVIDE THE KIND OF AS A MENU OF THEM AND EAST BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE DO THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD IT WOULD CREATE MORE CONSISTENCY BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE THE FRONTAGE ALONG FOURTH STREET SUCH AS WAS CREATED BY THE JUNIOR AIR ACADEMY AREA PLAN WHICH IF YOU HAD DONE AN AREA PLAN THAT ENCOMPASSES THE HOSPITAL MY GUESS IS YOU MIGHT HAVE EXTENDED THAT SAME LOGIC SOUTH THING BUT MORE MILK IF THE MANAGEMENT PLAN. THEY HAVE PROVISIONS. SO I LIKE THIS IDEA MARY. THEY HAVE PROVISIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF THEY WANNA GET THEIR MEALS THERE THEY COULD I HAD A SOUL

[212:00] OR UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT. SO OKAY SO MAYBE DON'T MAKE IT OUR ALL AND MAYBE YOU MAKE AT RL TOO SO THAT IT COULD BE DUPLICATE THIS IN AND GIVE A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IF YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE A PLAN THAT IS CONSISTENT. IT MAKES IT'S LOGICAL TO ME THAT YOU WOULD EXTEND WHAT IS HAPPENING JUST TO THE NORTH ON THAT FRONT EDGE BECAUSE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO TRANSITION SO THAT'S A SO WHEN DOES THAT MAKE ME LOOK AT THE MAP IT'S EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE NORM NO BUT THAT IT'S NOT IN THE ZONING BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THE IF THAT IF THE REQUEST TO BE HE STILL IS EXACTLY AS THE LIONS WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN NORSE MINUS EXISTING MEDICAL BUILDING THIS JUST SAYING WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT IT'S NOW NOT THE ZONING WHICH

[213:01] HAS UNLIMITED FA R SO THAT IS ANOTHER THIS CAKE SO WHAT I HEAR MARY DESCRIBING ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THEY THINK THEY CAN BE DEALT WITH VERY EFFECTIVELY IN THE SITE REVIEW PORTION OF YOUR DISCUSSION BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT CAT COMPATIBILITY AND HOW THE SITE PLAN INTEGRATES IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH REGARD TO THE REZONING IF YOU'RE GOING TO DENY THE REZONING WELL THERE'S THE CASE IT HAS BEEN MADE FOR AND FRANKLY IS RATHER COMPELLING. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE EXACT ZONING THAT IS UNDERLYING THE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION AND THERE'S ONLY ONE ZONING DISTRICT THAT DOES IT. IF YOU

[214:00] WERE TO LOOK TO DENY IT THEN YOU HAVE TO GO INTO REASONS BASED ON THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS PROBABLY A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION IF THE ISSUE IS THAT THE REAL ISSUE IS ARE TOO MUCH ON THE SITE OF COURSE AS THE COMPATIBILITY OF A DESIGN ISSUE THOSE ALL CAN BE DEALT WITH IN OTHER PARTS OF THE APPLICATION TO AN EARLY LEAD IN THE LAND WE JUST DON'T GO INSANE WHILE WE GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT DEAL WITH THE OTHER SHOOTER SECONDLY I THINK IT MAKES SENSE I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES ABOUT COMPATIBILITY AND THE SITE REVIEW WHICH IN ALL IT WAS THINGS WE COULD GO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BUT YOU SEE THIS ON THE JUST RAISE THE POINT HERE THE LOOK AND HAVE A

[215:00] PLANNING BOARD VOTES TURNED OUT THAT EVEN PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WHO VOTED AGAINST THE SITE REVIEW ACCEPTANCE VOTED IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING SO FORTH THAT SOURCE OK YA KIND OF CONVINCED ON WE SHOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT AND MOVED TO THE NEXT DAY CATCHING IT YET OK REALLY THAT THEY'RE FOR NOW THOUGH. K SHALL WE GO TO SITE REVIEW OR DO WE WANT TO GO TO HIGH OR DO ONE OF THE ROAD ON THE VOTE ON THE REZONING AND I'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT THAT WE COULD START OFF WITH HEIGHT IS ISSUE NUMBER ONE HUNDRED REVIEW THE CASE THAT I HAVE A QUESTION. WELL LET US START GETTING THE MAP UP THERE I WAS OUT WORKING ON IT SO LOOK IF I READ THIS RIGHT THE HEIGHT IS THIRTY FIVE FEET BUT THEN THERE'S SOME NARRATIVE THAT SAYS BUT BECAUSE IT'S CONGREGATE CARE

[216:00] IT AND TITLE TO THREE STORIES WERE SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO THEM GET TO MAKE THE THREE STORIES EVERY NOT EVERY ZONING DISTRICT BUT MOST ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE PERMITTED NUMBER OF FLOORS THAT YOU CAN HAVE AS A MATTER OF PRICE IT SO FOR THIS FOR THE ZONING DISTRICTS. YOU COULD HAVE THREE STORIES. IF YOU WERE TO DO FOR STORIES THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO DO I REVIEW IF YOU EVEN IF YOU WERE UNDER THIRTY FIVE WAS RIGHT IN SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR HEIGHT THAT IS GREATER THAN THIRTY FIVE FEET. THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE THE ONE TO DO THREE STORIES BUT WHICH I GUESS WHICH TRUMPS WHICH CAN ONLY HELP YOU SET FOR BUT ALL THAT LED TO THE EYE AND I APPRECIATE THAT. OH WAIT I WANNA CHANGE MY POSITION THERE BUT THE REASON THAT

[217:00] THEY ARE THE REASON WHY THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR HIGH REVIEW IS BASED ON TOPOGRAPHY AND I THINK WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO ELAINE TO EXPLAIN THAT STAFF RATIONAL AND ITS INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ONE ON ONE COMEDY FOR YOU THAT WAS YOUR DOING THAT HE ALSO WE ASKED APPLICATION THE DEVELOPER TO NOT MAKE FLAT ROOFS WE SAID THAT TO THEM AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME OF THE HEIGHT EXEMPTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING FLAT ROOMS IN ORDER AND ALSO TO COVER THE H BACK OR WHATEVER'S UP THERE AND MAKE IT MORE SUBTLY PLEASING SO CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU DELINEATE BETWEEN WHAT'S A HEIGHT EXEMPTION. YOU KNOW BASED ON WHAT WE ASKED THEM FOR AND WHAT'S YOU KNOW OTHER THAN THAT. SURE YOU BET SO THIS IS THE CODE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT THE REQUEST IS

[218:04] NECESSARY BECAUSE THE TOPOGRAPHY ON THE SIDE AND AS WE ALL KNOW THERE'S A PRETTY DRAMATIC DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSITION FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER AND ALBEIT THERE'S SOME TERRACES ON THE SITE. I THINK WHAT THIS IS THIS WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF HELPFUL FOR ME ONE OF THE THINGS YOU COULD LOOK AT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE EXISTING HOSPITAL AND AS IT SITS ON THE SIDES THAT ARE GRAPHICALLY CHALLENGED AS YOU CAN SEE IF THE SITE WERE FLAT AND THE FLOOR PLATES WERE LOW. UNLIKE THE EXISTING HOSPITAL WHICH HAS RATHER TALL FOUR PLATES. YOU COULD PROBABLY ACHIEVE THREE STORY SO LET'S PRETEND THAT THAT'S A THIRTY FIVE FOOT TALL BUILDING WITH A FLAT ROOF HOWEVER ON THIS SITE THE TOPOGRAPHY DROPS AND SO TO MAINTAIN THAT EIGHTY EIGHTH FLOOR YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THAT IS ON

[219:00] THE GRADE THERE. IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE HYPE IS CREATED BECAUSE OF THE DROP IN TYPOGRAPHY. IT'S NOT SO MUCH GOING UP AS IT IS GOING DOWN AND THE WAY WE MEASURE HEIGHT IS TWENTY FIVE FEET FROM THE TALLEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THE LOWEST POINT ON THE TALL SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO IN THIS CASE YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT IT'S THE SAME SITUATION YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT FLAT FLOOR PLAY GROUND LEVEL FLOOR AND THE SITE DROPS SO IT ADDS SOME DIMENSION OF HEIGHT TO THE TOPOGRAPHY KEEPS DROPPING TWENTY FIVE FEET AWAY SO IT ADDS A CERTAIN DIMENSION OF HEIGHT THIS CASE THE APPLICANT ALSO WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD AND THE DISCUSSION WAS RATHER THAN HAVE IT BE A FLAT ROOF COULD WE TAKE A LOOK AT MAYBE DOING A MORE PUNCTUATED ALMOST LIKE A VILLAGE LIKE ELEMENT ON THE CORNER AND

[220:00] THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST POINT WHICH IS THAT ROOF PEAK. SO IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SITE ITSELF. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT ROOF PEAKS IT'S WOULDN'T MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IF THAT WAS GOD. ARGUABLY PROBABLY NOT IT'S IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE THAT'S THE TALLEST POINT OF THE BUILDING SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE SO THE FACT THAT THIS IS WHERE THE REQUEST IS FOR THE HEIGHT MODIFICATION AT ITS MOST SIGNIFICANT IN STAFF'S MIND IT MET A NUMBER OF OTHER SITE REVIEW CRITERIA TO ACTUALLY CREATE A MORE INTERESTING BUILDINGS AND I AGREE TO MORE INTERESTING CHILDREN BUT AND I'M RUNNING TO SUPPORT NON FLAT ROOFS BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THAT ONE BUILDING BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THERE'S MORE THAN ONE

[221:00] BUILDING THAT IS EXCEED THIRTY FIVE FT HIGH AND THERE'S LIKE ELEVEN BUILDING SAID EXCEED THAT HEIGHT IS CERTAIN HE WAIT THAT WE CAN GET THEM TO CONFORM TO WHAT OUR HEIGHT ORDINANCE IS WELL IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A TARGET OF ELEVEN. LIKE WITH HOW MUCH THEY EXCEED BY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT PART ME DO YOU HAVE A CHART OR LIST OF THE ELEVEN BUILDING IS LINED ON ONE OF THE SHEETS IN THE PACKET. LET ME JUST SEE IF I CAN REFERENCE WHICH SHE THOUGHT IS MAYBE THE ARCHITECTS COULD HELP WITH THAT TWO YEAR AND IT RANGES FROM HER TEACHER SAID IF THE GAS ON PAGE SIXTEEN AND SEVENTEEN OF THE SITE PLANS THE PDF WHAT TO SAY PLANS I THINK PAGE SIXTEEN AND SEVENTEEN MIGHT BE THAT EVERYBODY JUST WAIT A SECOND CHANCE. I'M TRYING TO FIND

[222:02] FOR THOSE WHO KNEW THAT THROUGH HER BUT SHE SEEMED USING THE NEW SYSTEM DOESN'T WORRY ARE SHATTERED. IT DOESN'T WORK. NO YOU CAN'T GET AROUND IT LIKE A B C D E F IDK OKAY START THE TWO WITH PEACH. IT'S THE SECOND THOUGH IS THAT PART TO THINK IT'S IN PART IT'S PARQUE SIXTEEN CERT YET PAGE. IT'S TWENTY EIGHTEEN O SEVEN SEVENTEEN AGENDA PACKET FINAL PART. HERE'S THE SITE PLAN A PAGE SIXTEEN. SO IN YOUR BOOK IS IT'S IN THE PAPER BOOK ON THE THREE OF FOUR KIDS A WAY THAT WE ARE READY SO THE MAIN CHALLENGES THAT LARGESS

[223:00] BUILDING A AND THAT'S THE ONE IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE COLUMN D THAT'S THE ONE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S CHALLENGES DUE TO TOPOGRAPHY. IT WAS STAFF'S ASSERTION THAT IN THIS CASE SAID IT WAS WARRANTED AGAIN NOT ONLY FOR THAT SORT OF LITTLE VILLAGE CORNER PUNCTUATION MARK BUT IT'S ALSO AIDS IN REDUCING THE APPEARANCE WHAT WOULD BE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY EMBEDDED IN THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IN THAT ROOF WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ALWAYS SEEK TO DO WITH MANY APPLICANTS IN WITH WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S A FLAT ROOF IT'S MORE CHALLENGING. SO THE FACT THAT THEY PUT A PITCHED ROOF IN THIS CASE ACTUALLY HELPS NOW THAT NOT ALL THE BUILDINGS HAVE A PITCHED ROOF SOME OF THEM HAVE A FLAT ROOF AND THERE WITHIN THIRTY FIVE FEET BUT AGAIN AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH DAB IT WAS INTENDED TO CREATE SOME

[224:00] VARIATION SO WOULDN'T ALL LOOK THE SAME AND LOOK MONOLITHIC THE CHART GO AHEAD AND WALK US THROUGH THE ONE STATE SO IT'S PRIMARILY BUILDING PAY AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CHART THAT IT'S EVERYWHERE FROM JUST BARELY A PERCENTAGE ON ONE AND A BUILDING A TWO ABOUT SIX FEET DIFFERENCE AND THEN THERE'S OTHER BUILDINGS THE GH BUILDINGS THAT ARE OFF ON THAT PLAN. THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP TOWARDS THE TRAILHEAD SUBDIVISION THAT ALSO CREATES A NEED TO REQUEST A HEIGHT MODIFICATION DUE TO HEIGHT ALTHOUGH THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ONLY TWO STORY IN THAT LOCATION. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT REQUESTING A MODIFICATION UP TO THREE STORIES DUE TO TOPOGRAPHY IT'S A TWO STORY END TO THOSE THIS A SECOND STORY HAD ME WALTZ AND HOW HIGH ARE THOSE

[225:01] KNEW WAS I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THE RICHARD I MEAN THERE THERE ARE WAYS TO BRING THOSE BUILDINGS STILL IN HIGH MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING UP THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH MANY ITERATIONS ON IT BUT IF I'M TO TURN THE KEY. HE'S COME UP. I GO BAHS MINE REPRESENTING THE APPLICATION THE APPLICANT PALM SPECIFICALLY I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE AGING J COTTAGES. LET'S START THERE SO THOSE BUILDINGS ARE ONE STORY FROM THE FRONT THEY ARE A WALK A CONDITION FROM THE REAR SIGHT IS FACING A TRAILHEAD. PARTLY BECAUSE WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO IMPROVE THE SLOPE ON THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS OR USING THE WALLS THE BUILDING TO ACTUALLY RETAIN MAXIMUM

[226:00] HILLSIDE THERE INSTEAD OF CREATING LARGE RETAINING WALLS FROM WHICH WE THOUGHT WOULD BE VERY UNSIGHTLY BUILDINGS AND SOULS EVEN FROM THE TWO STORIES MEASURE ABOUT TWENTY ONE FEET SO THEY HAVE ABOUT A TWELVE FOOT IN THE WALL MOST ON THOSE BUILDINGS TWELVE INCH SKINNY TALL MAN SHE CAN SAY WELL HE WAS THE SIDE OF FAT IN REALLY THIS IS A RESULT OF WHAT WE FEEL SMART DESIGN PRINCIPLES WE HAVE WE COULD HAVE PUSHED THOSE BUILDINGS FURTHER TOWARDS TRAILHEAD AND THEY WOULD HAVE FALLEN INTO THE STEEP SLOPE CALCULATION FOR HEIGHT AND WE SAID WE FEEL THAT YES WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF HSE SLOPE AND WERE HAVING A MEASURE TWENTY FIVE FEET OUT SO THEY'RE HAVING TO GO OVER THE HEIGHT EXEMPTION TO THE TOPOGRAPHY BUT IT'S BETTER TO PULL AWAY FROM TAIL AND MAKE THEM LESS IMPACTFUL ON THE HILLSIDE THEIR LESS VISIBLE FROM FOUR ST AND WE

[227:02] DIDN'T WANT TO COMPROMISE SMART DESIGN PRINCIPLES FOR MORE COMING INTO COMPLIANCE IN THE STEEP SLOPE CALCULATION WHICH WE WOULD OF SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT THOSE ARE THE WAY THEY ARE ON SCENE IN REGARDS TO THE BUILDINGS YOU KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH ALOT OF DIFFRENT ON THE SLOPES WITHIN THOSE BUILDINGS AND TRY TO KEEP THEM FUNCTIONAL ACROSS THE ENTIRE THE ENTIRE SITE IN I'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT THE OPPOSITION TO THIS THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING A LOT OF GRADE TWENTY FIVE FEET OUT WELL THAT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF OUR MEASURING THE GRADE TWENTY FIVE FEET OUT FROM THE CORE OF THE BUILDING. SO AT THE CORE OF THAT BUILDING YEAH IT'S PRETTY FLAT BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE DAY BUILDING FROM WEST TO THE SOUTH YOU KNOW THE SOUTH

[228:00] EAST CORNER AND EVEN FROM THE EAST SIDE TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING WHERE THEY DESIGN ELEMENT IS WHERE LOSING ABOUT SIXTEEN FEET OR GREATER WHICH MEANS THAT FOR TRYING TO KEEP OUR FLOOR PLATES LEVEL WITHIN THOSE THOSE BUILDINGS DUE TO OUR SENSITIVE BOMB. WE WANT ALL THE STEPS WITH THE ELDERLY MEDIA REGULATIONS. IT AFFECTS THE COURTYARD NICE LARGE COURTYARD IN THE CENTER. WE NEED TO KEEP THE FOREPLAY CONSISTENT. SO IN OUR MIND TYPOGRAPHY IS NOT WHERE IT'S MEASURED FROM TWENTY FIVE FEET OUT IT'S THE ENTIRE DISTANCE ACROSS KEEPING THAT THAT CONSISTENT AND REALLY MAKES A BETTER DESIGN MOM ADDITIONALLY I DO HAVE AN EXAMPLE HERE THE SHOW YOU THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND THE HEIGHTS AS MEASURED AS SHOWN. I THINK THEY'LL BE VERY HELPFUL AND I HAVE ONE OTHER EXHIBIT THAT EXAMPLE IT SHOWS THE PAIR PETS IS ALSO

[229:11] KIND OF REQUEST. THEN WHO IS SOON GETTING THAT THESE COTTAGES AND FOUR ST. ARE THEY ABOVE THE HIGH LIMIT TODAY THEY ARE NOT AND JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THE QUESTION WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER WITH THE HEIGHTENED STUFF THERE IS NO SOUL ENCROACHMENT ON THE PROPERTY COME BECAUSE OF A SPECIFICALLY THOSE EIGHTEEN J COTTAGES AND NIGHT THEY STILL FALL WITHIN THE TWELVE FOOT SOLAR FENCE WHICH IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT. SO LET ME JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT IT SO SO THE HJ COTTAGES ALL EVEN WITH THE SHADING THAT SHOWN IN THE DRAWINGS BE THERE OBVIOUSLY SHADING THE SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS LIKE HALFWAY UP THE BUILDINGS THAT DOESN'T VIOLATE AS SOLAR ACCESS. NOW I THINK YOU LOOK AT THAT THE EXAMPLES THEY

[230:00] SHOW THAT IN THAT ZONE WHO ACTUALLY FALL WITHIN SOLAR SATO REQUIREMENT SHALL CONTINUE CAST THE SHADOW ONTO ALL OKAY SO I DIDN'T EXPECT THEY WILL CAST A SHADOW ON TRAIL HEAD THAT'S WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHEN YOU BUILD NEW FOR YOU ALLOWED TO CAST SHADOWS ON THE BUILDING'S WINDOW NEXT TO IT SO YOU'RE BUILDING THESE HJ COTTAGES ARE YOU ALLOWED TO CAST SHADOWS ON BUILDINGS IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE IF YOU WERE BUILDING NEXT TO AN EXISTING BUILDING SO THE ALL JUMP IN THE EXHIBIT ACTUALLY PRETTY HELPFUL WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT THAT HE JUST PASSED OUT. I'M ACTUALLY REFERRING AN AIR OF A SHY HAHA SO IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONE DISTRICT MONT ARE ALL ONE OUT THE PROPERTY LINE THERE'S A HYPOTHESIZED TWELVE FOOT SOLAR SHOULD FENCE AND WHATEVER SHADOW IS CAST BY THAT THE DEEPEST PART OF THE SHADE WHICH IS DECEMBER TWENTY FIRST AT

[231:02] EITHER TEN AM OR TWO PM CRATES THE DEEPER SHADOW IN THIS CASE BECAUSE IT'S GOING THAT DIRECTION. IT'S AT TWO P M THAT WOULD BE DEEPER SHADOW SO WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO DEMONSTRATE IS THAT THEIR BUILDINGS WOULDN'T CAST A SHADOW THAT WOULD EXTEND BEYOND THE SHADOW CAST BY THE HYPOTHETICAL SO IF GOT IT BUT IS A GREAT PICTURE BECAUSE IT'S SHAKING THE HECK OUT OF THE COTTAGE AND I CAN'T CALL SOMETHING THAT BIG A COTTAGE UM LUXURY CONDOMINIUM. I MEAN IT'S IT'S CASTING A SHADOW ON TO THE CONDO NEXT TO IT WHICH WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IF YOU'RE BUILDING NEWS SO WHEN YOU BUILD NEW YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SHAPE THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD NOT IF YOU WERE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS NOT THE INSTANT WERE BUILDING KNOW IT'S THAT WE'RE NOT CROSSING PROPERTY LINES BROUGHT IT ON OUR PROPERTY WERE NOT CROSSING ANY PROBLEMS ARE ALLOWED TO SHAPE MY OWN MY OWN RIGHT HERE YOU

[232:00] WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED TO SHED SO SO GIVEN THAT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE IMPACT THAT THE WAY THAT YOUR SHADING THESE BUILDINGS ARE SHOOTING EACH OTHER THESE LUXURY CONDOS ARE SHOOTING EACH OTHER AS FAR AS WHAT IT WOULD LIMIT FOR PUTTING SOLAR ON IN THE FUTURE FOR PUTTING SOLAR HOT SO THE REASON THAT YOU HAVE THE SOLAR ACCESS ORDINANCES SO THAT YOU DON'T LIMIT BUILDINGS FROM BEING ABLE TO PUT SOLAR PANELS ON AND SO THE REASON I MEAN I GET A LANE THAT THEY ARE NOT CHANGING TRAILHEAD AND THAT'S PER CODE BUT THERE THE WAY THAT THEY BUILT SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THEY'RE SHOOTING EACH OTHER. CAMERON AND I THINK WHEN IT'S ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE THE SOUL OR WHEREVER YOU WANT AS OPPOSED TO IF IT'S ENCROACHING ON A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY THERE'S LESS CONTROL SO WE REGULATE IT AND OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS OR CONSOLE THEM DID LOOK AT ALL THESE BUILDINGS THE SHADOWS WHERE THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD

[233:03] GET THE MOST OPTIMAL SOLAR RESULT AND USE THAT INFORMATION TO DERIVE THEIR SOLAR CALCULATIONS AND WHAT TO EXPECT OUTPUT TO BE TIED TO SONGS OR FIDDLING AROUND WITH THIS PSALM AND MINIMIZE AND MITIGATE ENERGY IS MY FAVORITE SITE PLAN REVIEW CREATURE OF ALL WILL BE SOLAR READY BILLINGS THEY ARE TO OUR CITIES ALL HAVE CONDUIT FOR SOLAR BUT NOT SO ON THEM THAT BELIEVE WE'RE PLANNING ON WEARING IT ALL FOR SOLAR AND IF YOU LOOK AT ONE ANOTHER PAGE WITHIN THE PLANTS THAT SOMETHING CAME WHEN THEY ARE ALL WAYS THERE'S AN OUTLINE OF WHERE THE PROPOSAL OR WHO WOULD BE ACTUALLY INSTALLED AND CERTAINLY SHE WOULD BE ACTUALLY INSTALLED IS THIS THAT YOU'RE ON STALIN OR THE POTENTIAL FUTURE RESIDENTS COULD JUST CORRECT YOU WE WOULD INSTALL IT YOU'RE GOING AND SAW ONLY WIRE IT BUT INSTALL THIS ALREADY BUT IT WOULD BE PART OF OUR POND. SO IS HIS THAT

[234:00] PART OF A PLAN THAT WILL BE APPROVING CAN WE CONDITION THAT THAT IS CORRECT I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN CONDITIONED AT PLANNING BOARD A ONE POINT FOUR ONE FOUR ONE FIVE WHEN IS IT A FOUR ONE TIME A COUPLE PEOPLE WANT TO JUMP IN ON THIS FOR FOR BILL AND MARY WERE CONDEMNED TO DIE SOON YOUR SOUL AND FORGET I REMEMBER WHEN I GET THERE I JUST THINK THAT THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT THIS THE MORE THAN HALF OF THAT ROOF LINE IS SO SO ARE READY EVEN ON AT THE MOST SHADOW OF THE MOST TIME OF THE MOST SEARING MEAT BUT IF AT ALL OTHER TIMES OF THAT VERY DAY AND THEN ALL THE REST OF THE SEASON YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BULK OF THAT BUILDING IN THE SUNSHINE AND THIS IS ONE TIME ONE YEAR THAT LESS THAN HALF OF IT IS BEING COVERED DOESN'T SEEM LIKE AN ISSUE MAYBE ADD IN THIS ANALYSIS IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOLAR FOR THOSE BUILDINGS IT'S YOU KNOW TWO O'CLOCK MARCH TWENTY FIRST JUNE

[235:02] TWENTY FIRST SEPTEMBER TWENTY FIRST YOU KNOW THE ONLY DAY THAT IS REALLY GETTING IMPACTED IS THAT PERIOD BETWEEN ANSWER IT'S VERY MINOR ON THOSE BUILDINGS WHAT PAGE THE ON AGAIN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE THAT I HAVE FELT THIS BUT IT'S TAKEN FROM YOUR PLANS TO CALL MARY DID YOU RUN ON SOLAR. WELL YES RELATED SO THIS WHOLE IDEA THAT IF IT'S YOUR OWN PROPERTY YOU'RE ALLOWED TO VIOLATE THE SOLAR SHADOW IS THAT THAT'S CORRECT RATE WELL IT'S WE REGULATE THE SOLAR AT A PROPERTY LINE OK SO BECAUSE THIS IS AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE KNOWN LOTS IT'S KIND OF A BYPRODUCT OF ALLOWING THE STONING WHICH HAS BEEN A LOT SO IF YOU HAD SO IF YOU HAD A LOT BOUNDARIES THEN YOU WOULD. IT WOULD BE REGULATED DIFFERENTLY. I DON'T THINK IT'S A BYPRODUCT OF NOT

[236:00] HAVING HER HAVING THE PEAS AWNING BECAUSE OF HIS OWN ON OTHER ZONES WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO BUILD TO THE FA ARE TO BE HAD WE WOULDN'T BE NECESSARILY BE REQUIRED TO SUBDIVISION. IT'S A MATTER OF THEM JUST DON'T THINK IT'S YEAH IT'S YEAH SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WENT TO NANTUCKET SINCE WE CANNOT MANAGE A STAFF SAMI BROUGHT UP WE CALCULATE SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY KILOWATTS TOTALS POSSIBLE ON THE ROOT SYSTEM WHICH IS A LARGE PIECE OF SOME VERY EXPENSIVE PIECES SOME WE THINK TO MAKE THE UNITS THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. ZERO WE NEED ABOUT FIVE HUNDRED TO FIVE FIFTY ON THE STRICT DEFINITION OF NET ZERO FOR UNIT HIS FIVE KILOWATTS TO SIX COHEN CNN AND THIS SO WE THINK THAT WE CAN BE NET ZERO ENERGY WAS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE HOME WE HAVE

[237:02] SOME OTHER OTHER TYPES OF OF ABUSES IN THE SIGHT THAT THAT WOULDN'T ACCOUNT FOR BUT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE AND NOW MAY OUR CALCULATION SAY THAT WE COULD REDUCE THE SITE ENERGY PROBABLY TO FIFTY TO SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT USING OTHER OTHER MEANS OF ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND IT MAKES THE SENSE FOR US BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS BUT WE'RE GOING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME THE PAYBACK IS GOOD NEWS LIKE THIS THAT YOU KNOW WHERE OTHERWISE IT MAY NOT BE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SERVES SIX HUNDRED TWENTY KILOWATTS OF SOLAR NAMEPLATE ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROJECT ENTIRE PLANNING ON DOING THIS WEEK THAT BASED ON WHAT'S IN YOUR PLAN SAID THAT'S THE ENERGY THAT WE CAN PRODUCE GREAT SAID THE ONE LAST QUESTION I HAVE OR HAVE YOU APPEAR BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO COME TO THESE COTTAGES ANYWAY AND WE'RE TALKING HEIGHT AND SO THIS IS RELATED. IT SEEMS TO ME FROM KIND OF LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT VIEWS IN THE PLAN SETS A DIFFERENT KIND OF LOOKS UP THE HILLSIDE

[238:02] WITH A SHAVEN HEAD LIGHTLY TRANSLUCENT BUILDINGS THAT YOU PUT THE RENDERINGS. IT SEEMS LIKE THE COTTAGES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE MOST VISUAL IMPACT OR OUT ON THE CURVE THEIR WORDS CLIMBING THE HILL GOING UP TO THE NURSES CARDED IN THE NURSE'S BUILDING AND SO YOU KNOW WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON BEING ABLE TO SCALE THOSE PRACTICES ARE SOME THAT BIG A SPACE IS THAT YOU HAVE THERE LIKE RT TWENTY SEVEN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET FOR SOME OF THOSE TIMES I DON'T BELIEVE THAT LARGE BUT THEY ARE OR LARGER COTTAGES BUT I KNOW AS FAR AS VISUAL IMPACT YEAH MOM AND I WANT TO SAY QUITE A BIT ESPECIALLY THE TRAILHEAD IN EXISTENCE RIGHT NOW THAT IS A PLANT THERE. IT CURRENTLY HAS A PRETTY LARGE PARKING AREA THERE AND WHERE WE'RE LOCATED THOSE COTTAGES WE'VE PUSHED THEM BACK INTO THE PLANT

[239:01] THERE ON PURPOSE TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THAT WHEN YOU STAND DOWN A TRAIL HEAD AND YOU LOOK UP THE HILL YOU CAN BARELY SEE WHERE THOSE COLLEGES INVEST SOME MORE FORWARD TO FOR WHICH WAY JAY COLLEGE'S S YET THOSE FROM FOUR STREET IS WHAT I WAS MOSTLY CONCERNED WITH IS THE WAY I MEAN I'M STAYING AWAY FROM THE BIGGER BUILDINGS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS A BLEND IN A LITTLE BETTER AND CERTAIN WAYS BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY ARE I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THE JAY COTTAGES BECAUSE OF ELEVATION THAT THEY STAND AT AND SOME OF THE RENDERINGS SHOW SHOWS IS KIND OF THE MOST PROMINENT FROM FOUR STREET OF ALL THE BUILDINGS. MOM YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ACTUALLY I DON'T FORCE TREATMENT DONE AND THIS JUST MY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE BUILT THERE NOW YOU DON'T SEE A PLANT THAT THOSE ARE BUILT ON THEY'RE NOT AS VISIBLE AS YOU'D THINK WHAT YOU REALLY DO SEE IS THE NURSES' DORMITORY AT THE TOP OF THE HILL THAT'S KIND OF YOUR VIEWPOINT. SO THEY'RE BLOCKED BY THE EXISTING TRAIL LIGHTHOUSES AND THEN ONCE YOU

[240:01] GET INTO TRAILHEAD. THEY'RE BLACKED BY THE HILL THE STEEP HILL SLOPE SO YOU CAN THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE FROM AIR WHAT YOU DO SEE IS THE LARGE NURSES' DORMITORY AT THE TOP OF SO I'M LOOKING AT TOM PAGE FORTY THREE WHICH IS YOUR PLAN SET A DASH FOR THAT THIRTY FOUR AND THEN SOME THAT COME AFTER THAT AND AS YOU MOVE AROUND I GUESS THAT WAS MY CONCERN AND THEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHERS ON PAGE FORTY SIX WHICH IS YOUR FORTE UP THIRTY SEVEN. I MEAN IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THOSE COTTAGES CLIMB THE HILL AND STAND OUT SO THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT HEIGHT IS THAT I TAUGHT THOSE COTTAGES MIGHT STAND OUT MORE AND SOME EVIDENTLY I HAVE. WE HAVE BEEN VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT THAT I WILL LET YOU KNOW THAT AND THAT WAS A COMMENT THAT STAFF MADE US VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AND IN LOOKING AT THREE D RENDERINGS AND MODELS AND DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES FROM FOUR STREET FROM MAPLE TO AND

[241:01] FROM INSIDE TRAILHEAD. IT FELT LIKE WE DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF CONCEALING THOSE COLLEGES WHERE THEY WEREN'T YOU KNOW HIS PROM INVISIBLE AS YOU MIGHT THINK SO OK THANK YOU IN TERMS OF HEIGHT OLD SO WE HAVE THAT COMMENT ABOUT THE GB CONDOS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT COTTAGES BUTTON ET-CETERA JAKE THAT'S PROBABLY NOT IT WHATEVER OKAY DJ HOUSES WILL CALL THE GUY LIKE THAT WHAT OTHER WE WOULD OTHER THOUGHTS QUESTIONS CONCERNS ON HEIGHT. IN THE CURING ANY BETTER. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS INDIAN DUDE YOU'D SOME POINT YOU WANTED TO CALL SOMEBODY YES YES BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THERE A TIME OR NOT I'M THINKING THAT WE MIGHT GO

[242:03] THROUGH SOME OF THIS AND IT SPECIFICALLY HAD TO DO WITH THE AREA. OKAY SURE I JUST WONDER WHAT SYDNEY MAKE SURE JUST WHAT WHEN THE INVITING SOMEBODY TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING OFFER THAT WAS MADE EARLIER. IT'S NOT INTERJECTED AND ALL OF THE STUDY SESSION WHICH WE HEARD ABOUT FROM ANY NUMBER OF ACCENTS. OK WE JUST WON'T FORGET BUT NOT YET OK SO FOUR DONE WITH HEIGHT. WE DON'T BITE WELL THAT PARTICULAR SITE REVIEW CRITERIA IS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ITS HEIGHT MASS AND SCALE NOT JUZ HATE TO SAY THAT WE'RE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS AROUND HIGH AND THEN WE DIVE INTO THE SEC REVIEW AND SEE PEOPLE HAVE ANY. OK BACK TO ME I GUESS BEFORE WE DIVE INTO SAVIOR HAD A FEW MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT MAXWELL RENO THAT WAS ONE THAT I DON'T KNOW FOR ONE DO YOU GET THERE AND I'M OPEN TO DOING IT IS PART OF SAY ARE YOU OR DOES

[243:02] IT SEEMS LIKE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THEY ARE NO CERTAINTIES RIGHT PLACE. I MEAN MS WILL GET OUT OF MY TALKING THROUGH SOME MEAN WE HAVE SOME LONGER SOMEBODY WROTE A VERY NICE LONG LETTER ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MAXWELL ON WHERE CAME FROM AND HOW LONG IT'S BEEN AROUND AND WE KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE HAVE BEEN STREET NUMBERS ON THEM FOR MAX ON THAT'S FINE BUT WAS MOSTLY INTERESTED IN IS OUR ADOPTED ON BOULDER VALLEY COMP PLAN MAP SHOWS MAXWELL GOING AT LEAST HALFWAY INTO THE SITE SO I THOUGHT AGAIN I KNOW THAT THAT COME PLAN APPEARS TO BE EVEN MORE SQUISHY THAN I HAD PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT BUT IF IF WE COULD AT LEAST HEAR WHAT WHAT THOSE ROADWAYS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE COMP PLAN OR SPACE TO REPRESENT. SO I ACTUALLY ASKED SPECIFICALLY OF OUR GIS STAFF. I'M YOUR QUESTION AND THEY SAID THAT THEY MET BOTH AND PRIVATE STREETS AND THE IMPORTANT ONE

[244:02] IS WHERE IT IS DELINEATED BETWEEN PARCELS THAT WOULD CREATE A RIGHT OF WAY AND IN THIS CASE YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS HARD TO SEE SO I KIND OF ZOOMED IN BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR SURVEY YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ONLY RIGHT WAY THAT'S MARKED ON THEIRS FOURTH ST. SO NONE OF THE SURVEY WORK OR THE TITLE WORK SUGGESTED THAT MAXWELL EXTENDS INTO THE SITE AND YOU READ THE TRUE VIRGINIA A CRAIG HIGH US A LONG NOTE TO ASSUME YOU WENT THROUGH SOME BAD OR WELL I I THINK IT WAS LIKE NO DUDE HAD SURVEYED HIM FOR THAT ISN'T REALLY AWESOME BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE'S NO RECORD IN THE SITE SURVEYS OR IN TITLE WORK THAT INDICATES THAT THIS IS THE STREET FOR YEARS THAT

[245:00] SURVEY FROM HOME. I THINK IT'S TWENTY SIXTEEN SO THAT I MEAN THAT IT'S FAIRLY RECENT AND A SENSE OF NOW SOME OF THE WORK THAT SHE SHOWED US HAS A LOT MORE AMBIGUITY AROUND A LOT MORE LIKE A HISTORICALLY SERVED THE FIRE STATION FOR INSTANCE THAT WAS ALMOST SITE AND SO I MEAN JUST SEEMS TO ME AND WILL BRING THIS UP BEEN FURTHER SO APPARENTLY THE SITE PLAN OR THE BOULDER OUTCOME PLANNED ROAD GRAYS TO MEAN THINGS TO AND PRIVATE THEY'RE JUST SOME PASSAGEWAY THAT PEOPLE CAN GO DOWN BUT I THINK WE NEED TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT THIS ONE AS FAR AS ACCESS GOES I KNOW THAT WE CAN WALK THERE BUT I JUST WANT TO TALK THROUGH AS A COUNCIL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S BEING OFFERED FOR PARKING. TODAY IN THE AS IS CONDITION AND WHAT THE APPLICANT OFFERING HAND

[246:00] JUST WHAT THE TRADE OFFS THERE ARE SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN SITE PLAN REVIEW AND MAYBE FOR APPROPRIATE AND USE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONTROLLED BY A PLAN ADOPTED OPERATIONAL PLAN OF SOME KIND IS THAT RIGHT IF WE WERE TO HAVE A PLAN FOR ACCESS THAT WAS LIKE THE PLAN FOR WARM WATER POOL THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IF IT WERE APPROVED AS A OPERATING PLANNED WITH AND THEY USE REVIEW THAT IT COULD BE BINDING. THERE ARE SOME GOOD NEIGHBOR POLICIES THAT ARE IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN ABOUT ACCESS THROUGH THE SITE TO ENTER THE SITE SO THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THEIR MIDDLE SO IF WE WERE TO MODIFY THOSE IN OUR DISCUSSION THAT WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITION THAT WE COULD DEFER TO DAVID ON NOW AND NO I THINK IT WOULD BE INANE FRANKLY I THINK YOU COULD DISCUSS IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS I REVIEW AS WELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW THERE'S QUITE A FEW CRITERION IN THE REVIEW

[247:02] SECTION OF THE CODE THAT TALKS ABOUT CIRCULATION TO AND THROUGH A SITE. OKAY GREAT THANK YOU. OK SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO BRING UP AT DADDY MAC'S O K BUT GOT THE QUESTION ANSWERED. WAS THERE OTHER THINGS ON YOUR LIST. WE NEED TO DRESS ELLA SO YEAH THERE'S ALWAYS THAT IT WAS ON OUR LIST OF ISSUES SUNDANCE COULD POINT TO BRING IT UP YOU PROBABLY SHOULD BE TALKED THROUGH K LET'S TALK TO A CELL AND OH I CAN PULL UP MAPS. IF YOU WANT TO FIGURE OUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT LET ME PULL UP THE MAP. CAIN WERE

[248:00] THERE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND WHO IS SO. IF IF A LOOK AT WHERE BO IS SO IS THE NURSES' DORM IS ON THEIR IMMENSE IT IS SAFE CORRECT SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE GREEN DASH IS WHAT THE POLY GONE THAT'S BEEN MAPPED IN THE COMP PLAN RATE AS OH OSO OK SHOULD THEN THEY HAVE WHAT IS SAID THREE TO EXTRA BUILDING SUNDAY SOWED DOUBTS THAT PORTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ME SEE FOR QUEERS IN NURSES' DORM WHICH WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT UNDER THE WORD I AM OKAY THAT I THOUGHT IN AN AMOEBA SHAPED THING THERE'S IN THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF IT THERE'S THREE WHITE BUILDINGS

[249:08] HER CORRECT NAME ARE WE THE PEOPLE UP AND SHE'S JUST ASKING THE CITY. YES I THINK IF YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHEN PAIN. OK I THINK THE DEAL BUT BUT CINDY THAT'S REALLY THAT'S IT. IT WAS I WAS TOLD JUST TO CLARIFY VOTE HEY EVERYBODY THAT I WAS TOLD IT WAS TO ASK ABOUT WHEN OKAY BUT OKAY THAT WAS ALL THAT I AM SORRY IF THAT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT BUT WE SAID THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ONE TO FIT HIM IN. I ASSUME MAYBE IT HAD TO DO A SOMEBODY HAVING TO GO HOME SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THEY WILL WAIT A MINUTE THE OTHERS ALSO OK BUT WE AREN'T WE'RE OKAY WE ALREADY COVERED THIS GROUND WE AGREED THAT A COUNCIL MEMBER COULD ASK WE ALL

[250:03] AGREED FOR PERSONS OPINION ON THAT ONE PROPOSAL FOR GUIDANCE ABOUT WHEN THEY TALK TO YOU IF YOU NEED TO. YOU COULD ASK THE ATTORNEY I THE REALLY STRANGE TO ME THE OKAY AND SORRY FELT THAT WAY WE GOING TO GO AT CERN OK OK GO BACK TO MY QUESTION I KNOW IT'S ONLY THE SAINTS AGAIN AND WE HAVE AN AMOEBA UP THERE AND THEN KAT LEAST THREE I THINK IT'S THREE WHITE BUILDINGS IN THE SOUTHEAST PART OF THE AMOEBA THE FRONT IS THAT CORRECT HIM IS THAT THAT'S NOT THERE NOW THAT'S BEING PROPOSED CORRECT AND IS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE THAT BEING PROPOSED ON NOAH'S SO TO BUILD THEY ARE PLANNING TO RELOCATE ONE OF THE HISTORIC COTTAGES INTO THE AREA THAT'S

[251:00] SHOWN IN THE GREEN IT SAYS CONSERVATION AREA AND BUFFER FOLLOW UP ON TO THE SIR J O THAN HER SISTER SHOULD WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THAT AND NOW LOOKS WERE DISCUSSING IT HE SAYS THERE'S SOME PLACE THAT SHOWS THAT I HAVE THIS PICTURE WHICH IS OVER SO DAT SHE ACTS I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS CAME FROM EXACTLY BUT THIS IS DUE TO DRYING FROM THE APPLICANT WHICH SHOWS WHAT'S THERE NOW AND THERE'S TWO HISTORIC COTTAGES THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE MOVES OF ITS ARTY AND THOUGH IT'S SO FAR AS I CAN TELL AND IF I'M MISTAKEN LET ME KNOW. LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE MOVES UP THE HILL AND THE OTHER ONE MOVES COMPLETELY OUT OF O S O OR MAYBE ITS TIME MODE AND THEN YEAH THERE'S PARTS OF TWO BUILDINGS GET BUILT AND THERE IS AT A PAGE IN HERE DO WE THINK CAN WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO TELL US WHERE THIS COMES FROM BECAUSE IT'S THE MOST CLEAR DRAWING

[252:05] I'VE SEEN IT YET WE PRESENTED THAT TO USE DURING OUR PRESENTATION IN THE LAST MEETING AND I HAVE ADDITIONAL COPIES HERE I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THOUGH THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION AND THE PROPOSED RE MAPPING AND THE INCREASE AND SO THE GUYS ULTIMATELY GET INTO THE DAY THE PROPOSED NEW CONSERVATION EASEMENT CORRECT SO THE CON THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS A DIFFERENT EXHIBIT. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CHANGE IN LAND USE BP PLANNED EAST AS A NATION AND THE RE MAPPING OF THAT FALLS WITHIN THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA TO OTHER TO BE CLEAR WE WOULD NOT BE PROVING THAT TONIGHT OR A PROPOSAL FOR A LATER LAND USE CHANGE BUT THE EASE WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE THAT IS CRACK AT A CONCERT WOULD BE ALTHOUGH I HAVE A QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE MOVE

[253:00] YOUR BUILDINGS WHAT TO SAY TO YOUR PLAN YET BECAUSE WELL I WOULD SAY IT'S EASIER TO DO ON DRAWINGS THAT IS IN REAL LIFE BUT NOT A LOT EASIER FIRST OF ALL THE BUILDINGS UP TOP TO THE MORES US THE ANNEX THE NURSES X'S UP THERE AND THEN THE STONE COTTAGES UP THERE AND THEN WORKING WITH JAMES MARCY ON HISTORIC WE ARE MOVING THE OTHER FRAME COTTAGE THE DUPLEX THAT THEY WANT US TO PRESERVE A LANDMARK BACK BETWEEN THOSE TWO CLOSER TO WHERE IT ORIGINALLY SAT. IT'S BEEN MOVED ALREADY. ONCE YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAW CONSIDERS A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC CUTS COSTS ARE COVERED AND THE CANDIDATE CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION IS TO BE A SHORT ANSWER WHICH WILL BE IS MOST OF THE AREA WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS ARE LIKE PARKING LOT OR BE SOMEHOW IT'S CUT TRAILS AND SIDEWALKS AND PARKING LOT IS

[254:01] AIRY. YES I THINK THE KEY POINT IS THAT THERE IS THERE ARE A COUPLE SECTIONS OF BUILDING B THAT ARE IN WHAT CURRENTLY IS ALSO OK HOWEVER IT IS. DOZENS OF FEET BELOW THE NURSES BUILDING SO IT'S IN THE LOWER PARKING LOT FROM THAT ALREADY EXISTS AND SO ARE THINKING WITH RESPECT TO THE CONSERVATION AREA AND THE SWITCH OF OR SOUL AND WOULD BE THAT THE MORE IMPORTANT LONG TERM OBJECTIVE FOR PROTECTION WOULD BE THE TOP THE RIDGE AS OPPOSED TO A PARKING LOT THAT'S SAFE THIRTY FEET BELOW THE NURSES ALEX YOU KNOW AND I THINK IT'S THIRTY NINE FEET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TOP THE OK SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT I FORGOT ABOUT THIS AND IT'S BEEN A FULL MONTH BUT THAT DATE YOU BASICALLY SEE ADDED TO OR SO FROM HERE AND YOU PUT IT OVER THERE LAST SO

[255:02] I JUST GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT ON IF YOU LOOK AT THE SORT OF THE SOUTH LINE OF THOSE SO BOUNDARY HE CAN CUT THROUGH THAT ONE STRUCTURAL OR ARE YOU LOOKING GUY IN EITHER THE MIDDLE OF THE TOP I MEAN THEY'RE ALL THE SAME KNOW THE KIND OF CUTS BUT ON THE EDGE OF THAT ONE STRUCTURE AND WORRIED A LITTLE BLUE ONE NO BRIDGE TO THE WEST OF THE WEST ITS WALK IN CELLAR THIS ONE SHOWING US FOR SIX HUNDRED YEARS IS THAT'S THE TOP ON IS THE EXISTING READ THIS OH SO IN THE BOOM THINGS OR BUILDINGS OR BUILDINGS THAT ARE LATE IN THE OH SO NOW THINK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING CUT THROUGH THIS LONG. SO BEING AT THE ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT IS NOT BLUE IT'S ON THE EDGE OF THE OH SO THEY'RE HOLDING LAND THAT IS THE STONE THE EXISTING STONE COTTAGE THAT SITS IF YOU LOOK STRAIGHT UP THE DRIVE TO THE TOP OF THE HILL THAT RATE THERE IS THE EXISTING KIND OF

[256:01] STONE LOOKING COTTAGES THAT WERE PROPOSING THE LANDMARK THAT ONE IN NOW YOU MOVING LAND KNOW IT'S STAYING IN CONTACT OKAY OKAY SO THEN IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND IMAGE YOU CAN SEE THE DARK BLUE SHADED AREAS THAT'S WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT BUILDINGS NOW HE CAN SEE HOW MUCH LOWER AS THE NET BUILDING THAT SITS THERE TODAY IT'S MUCH LOWER. IT'S SITTING ON THE PARKING LOT THAT HE IS CURRENTLY EXISTING DOWN LOW ON THE SITE OF HER DIAPER AND WORSE PROPOSING TO SWAP THAT AREA YOU CAN SEE ON THE THIRD DIMENSION FOR ALL THE AREA UP ON THE HILLSIDE WHICH INCLUDES OUR PROPOSED CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS A HAND IN ADDITION THE LITTLE CHUNK AS THE DRIVE GOES UP TO THE HILLSIDE AS THE DRIVE GOES UP TO THE TOP OF ACTUAL BUILDING AND CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE POINT EIGHT ACRES

[257:02] OF IOWA SO UNDER THIS NEW PROPOSAL YOU END UP WITH FOUR POINT TWO AND DID YOU GUYS PRESENT THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THIS PROPOSAL OR WAS SET AFTER IT WAS AFTER BECAUSE PLANNING BOARD DIDN'T FEEL THE U S WELL I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WAS PRESENTED AFTER AFTER ITS YEMEN WE BECAME KIND OF AN ISSUE HE SAID YOU KNOW IT'S GOOD IS NOT TAKING AWAY OH SO NOW WE'RE GIVING YOU BETTER US SO LONG WITH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT WILL ENSURE THAT THE HILLSIDE IN THESE OTHER BALLPLAYERS ARE NEVER DEVELOPED IN PERPETUITY AND SURGES JUST A POINT ABOUT THE CIA WHEN WE'RE RULING ON THOUGH SO QUESTION OR OTHER HEARING YOU KNOW I FELT LIKE IT WAS PROBABLY A MAPPING ERROR BUT NOT CLEARLY BUT THAT WAY IF I HAD MY BROTHERS I WOULD HAVE AT THAT POINT CHANGELING USE DESIGNATION TO THE AREAS THAT ACTUALLY MADE SENSE BECAUSE I WILL

[258:00] BECAUSE I GOT HOME BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG PARKING LOTS IN THE INFERNO SO BACK SO I THINK THEIR THIRD THING HERE WHERE YOU DO READ RATHER LESS SO TO THE AREA'S ACTUALLY HAVE CONSERVATION BODIES AND THEN ADD IN MORE WHICH IS GREAT THINK THAT'S WHAT KNOW IT IT MAKES SENSE THAT WHEN I WAS SLEEPING AT THIS THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS THAT STATES THE PROPOSED CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREA BUT THIS IS THE RE MAPPING OF THE L A SO OKAY THAT HELPFUL THINKING SO NOW WE UNDERSTAND SUBSEQUENTLY THE PROCESS POINT OF VIEW CAN CHANGE IOWA'S OLD BOUNDARIES TO THE NEXT COMP PLAN REVIEW WEEK AT AN EASEMENT ALL WE LOVE TO YOU. THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE SAY OK GO AHEAD AND BUILD ON THIS CORNER WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO DONE HERE A LOT TO DO THAT AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SET HOW THE LAND IS USED THROUGH THE SITE REVIEW PROCESS SO YOU KNOW JUST FROM A PURELY REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE YOU COULD CALL THIS A CONSERVATION AREA HAD

[259:00] A NO BUILD ZONE AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED THAT REVIEW CRITERIA GREAT AND SO THEY VOLUNTARILY OFFERED THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT WE CAN MAKE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. WELL I THINK THAT THE BALL THAT A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'VE READ THE TAKINGS CASE LAW IT PROBABLY GOES A LITTLE TOO FAR IF THEY WERE TO DONATE IT WOULD BE GREAT BUT I I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD DO IT IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND I THINK THAT YOU CAN GET THERE YOU CAN GET TO THE SAME PLACE WITH REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS AND I THINK THE LOT OF THE TAKINGS LITIGATION ACTUALLY PUSHES GOVERNMENTS TO USE THEIR POLICE POWER RATHER THAN THEIR POWER TO EXACT DUE TO RECENT STATE THAT THEN BUT WE COULD DO IS HIS MAP OUT A NO BUILD ZONE AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND REQUIRE IT TO BE MAINTAINED IN A NATURAL STATE AREA. YES WE HAVE TO GUESS BE LITTLE CAREFUL WITH THAT BECAUSE IT CAN JUST BE WHAT SHOWN HERE ON THE DRAWING BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE RE DOING THE NURSES ON

[260:00] BUILDING RIGHT. SO IT'S BEEN RENOVATED SO I GUESS WE HAVE TO BE LITTLE CAREFUL WITH THAT THAT WE DON'T. ME AND INTENTIONALLY STOP SOMETHING THAT WE LOVE WE WILL NOT BE INCREASED OR NOT WE WERE NOT AND YOU GOT NOTHING TO INCREASE THE FOOTPRINT NOW IT BE INTERACTIVE ISH AND SERVICES BUT YOU ALL SOO THERE'S THE MOVING THE COTTAGE UP TO THAT AREA WHICH WOULD REQUIRE SOME ALTERATIONS SO I HAVE THE SO IF OWENS SO THIS POST TOO IF WE WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO MAINTAIN IN NATURAL STATE THEN DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE INTO LANDSCAPING THAT IT WOULD BE NATURAL VEGETATION THERE OR I MEAN WOULD THERE BE A DIFFERENT VEGETATION PLAN HERE THAN ON THOUGH SO HE I THINK YOU LOOK IN OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN. WE'VE ALWAYS INTENDED THAT PRETTY MUCH PAST THE VILLAGE GREEN AND ABOVE IN CERTAIN AREAS

[261:01] LIKE THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING A NATURAL TRANSITION AS YOU CAN SEE WITHIN THE OH SO THAT'S A NATURAL HILLSIDE AND THEN UP BEHIND THERE. IT'S ALWAYS INTENDED TO BE SORT OF TRANSITION FROM A MORE LANDSCAPED AREA TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THE OH SO THAT IS A BENEFIT TO YOU GUYS IS THAT APPARENTLY THEY ALL OSO IS SORTA JUST THE AREA ON THE LAND USE MAP THERE'S REALLY NOTHING THAT DEFINES IT TECHNICALLY. AND SO UNDER THIS NEW PROPOSAL. YOU KNOW YOU BE PROVIDED WITH AN ACTUAL MEETS AND BOUNDS OF WHAT IS OH SO AND WHAT'S NOT NOT JUST WELL I THINK ON THIS ONE MAPPING GOES HERE AND HERE IT GOES HERE I MEAN WE'VE JUST DONE THE BEST WE COULD BE KIND TO DEPICT WHAT WE THINK IS THE ACTUAL AREA LYNN OF A QUESTION ON THIS SLIDE THE HAVE APPEAR IN THAT CONSERVATION AREA. THERE'S THERE'S LIKE A DASHED LINE WITHIN THE CONSERVATION AREA

[262:00] AND HIS QUESTION FOR US BUT MOSTLY IT'S LIKE IT'S JUST BEHIND THE BUILDINGS ON THE INSIDE OF IT WAS NEVERTHELESS IT'S THE LAND MARKING AREAS HISTORIC PRESERVATION ZONE WHAT JAMES AND MARCI WANTED WAS NOT JUST THE BUILDING'S LANDMARK BUT A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE AROUND THEM AS WELL TO HONOR THEIR VETERANS LINED WITH AREAS THAT WERE DESIGNED TO BE KEPT IN A NATURAL STATE VERSUS NOT THE KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT LIKE IT'S THE AREA AROUND THE BUILDINGS VERSUS THE MORE NATURAL LIKE EVERYTHING TO THE WEST MORE LAST OF THE LINE CERTAINLY ARE IN THE WEST WOULD BE MORE OF A NATURAL WILD STATE AND WANT TO TAME IT SOMEWHAT CLOSER TO THE BUILDINGS I MEAN WE HAVE TO WORK WITH DO FLOWERS FOR EXAMPLE MAKE SURE THAT THE EXACT LANDSCAPE PLAN WAS ALSO FIRE SENSE OF Q OKAY WE FEEL VAGUE ABOUT THIS ANYTHING ELSE ON NOAH SO THANK YOU. AND OKAY I'M KIND

[263:01] OF GET IN TO THE END OF THE LIST THAT WE HAD MENTIONED TO RYAN THAT WE WANTED I DECIDED TO HIM. OK JUST YET. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GET IN ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AS WE DON'T MIND YES SO FAR THERE'S ONLY THERE'S HARDLY ANY LEFT EXCEPT FOR GOING THROUGH THE CHECKLISTS AND I THINK WE CAN TAKE THE MASS AND SCALE IS PART OF JUST DIVING INTO THE SAME VIEW. CALEB DIED IN THE WARM SOFT WELL JUST POINT A STAND THAT'S THE FIRST CRITERIA UNDER BILL CAN DESIGN SO ON THE STAFF THE SHEETS THE THIRD PAGE THE SUITS CRITERION IS THE BUILDING HEIGHT MASS KILLER INFORMATION ARCHITECTURE THE CONFIGURATION ARE COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING

[264:05] BUILDINGS IN THE LIGHT ON THAT. I WAS I WAS JUST TO SAY I SUFFERED MY THOUGHTS ON THIS EARLIER WE'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT THESE REVIEW IT THE HEIGHT MASS AND SCALE ARE BROADLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA WITH THE HEIGHT MASS AND SCALE ARE BROADLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA I WENT THROUGH SO QUICKLY. A FEW REASONS EARLIER ABOUT THE COLLEGE'S BEING ALONG FOURTH STREET FACING SIMILAR BUILDINGS THE SAME SIZE THE TALLER BUILDING ON MAPLE TEN BEING WITH THE HOSPITAL IS IN THAT KIND OF A BIGGER BUILDINGS BEING CENTRAL TO THE SITE AND MEETING NIGHT MODIFICATION BECAUSE OF TOPOGRAPHIC REASONS AND ALSO TO GET NON FLAT ROOFS INTO THE ARCHITECTURE IS SOMETHING WE LOOK FOR NOAH TO ENCOURAGE AND CARE OF ME AGAIN AS I STATED EARLIER IN THAT USE

[265:02] REVIEW CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF TONIGHT WHERE THE BUILDING THAT THE LAST CONNECTION BETWEEN BUILDINGS A AND B WAS ONE OF THE FEET FEATURES SIR ARE ITEMS THAT WAS POINTED OUT AS BEING CREATING TOO MUCH MASS THAT AND THAT'S STILL THERE SO AT THE MOMENT I DON'T THINK THAT IT MEETS THAT BECAUSE OF THAT. I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THE BUILDINGS MIGHT BE RENDERED UNNECESSARY HAVE SOME OF THE UNITS WERE MADE SMALLER ENSEMBLE FROM THE BUILDINGS WILL GET THERE I'M IN. MAYBE IT TO

[266:00] THE PROPERTY OWNERS AGAIN AND I DON'T KNOW I CAN ASK THIS BUT IN TERMS OF THE SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS CAN. ARE WE ABLE TO ASK THE DEVELOPER DID TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO BRING DOWN THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING SO IF IT IF IT ADDRESSES THE CRITERIA IN THIS CASE COMPATIBILITY. I MEAN I WOULD HOPE FOR NOT TRYING TO GET COMPATIBILITY WITH WHATEVER THAT'S CALLED TRAILHEAD THAT DEVELOPMENT AND YET IT RIGHT NEXT TO IT BUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S A PRETTY RICH NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF THE DIVERSITY OF BUILDING TYPES AND SIZES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND WHILE LOOKING IN THE PLAINVIEW WAS SCARED THE BUILDING SUCCESS

[267:02] THE VERY I GUESS I WOULD THINK IT COULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF THEY COULD. ERM I MEAN YEAH GET LIKE THE MAIN BUILDING AID THEY WANT TO HAVE A SITE THEIR MAIN BUILDING BUT THE REST OF THE BUILDINGS IF IT WOULD BE ABLE TO SCALE DOWN SOME I MEAN THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR SENIORS THAT'S ME AND I DON'T WANNA BE CLEANING A WHOLE LOT AND AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE PRETTY LARGE STRUCTURES FOR YEARS PEOPLE WITH NO CHILDREN NO OTHER PEOPLES LIVING IN THERE MAY BE THEIR PARTNER OF SOME SORT SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO FROM THAT BUT TO ASK THAT THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING SPC SOMEWHAT REDUCED AND I I WOULD AGREE WITHOUT ICING FOR THE WIN OF THE THINGS SAID IS

[268:01] YOU KNOW THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS IS I THINK REASONABLE BUT I THINK WHAT IS CREATING THE BARK IS THE FACT THAT AGAIN THE PUBLIC'S OWN DOES NOT HAVE A FLOOR AREA RATIO LIMIT SO YOU CAN LOOK IT UP AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED TO SOME EXTENT WHERE YOU HAVE SOME UNITS THAT ARE UM TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET LIKE YOU SAID WHERE ITS OLDER ADULTS THAT ARE DOWNSIZING SOME DOWNSIZING TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR SO. SO I THINK THAT THAT IS IS THE PART THAT IS ADDING BALL AND AND YES IF IT COULD BE THROWN DOWN BY SOME PERCENTAGE OF RUM AND I WOULD THROW OUT THERE SOMETHING LIKE TWENTY PERCENT

[269:04] OFF YOUR SKIS. ANYWAY I THINK THAT WILL GO TOWARD ADDRESSING COMPATIBILITY AND NOT IT'S NOT ALL TERRORISTS OR TAIL HEAD HOME TO EAT THERE'S SMALL HOME STIRS DUPLEX IS THERE'S TOWNHOUSES THERE'S SOME LARGE HOUSES SO ANYTHING AND I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE VARIABILITY IN A TONING DOWN OR A SCALING DOWN OF MOST OF THE BUILDING SAID ICE OTHER THOUGHT IT TILL YOU CINDY. IT JUST MADE IT SEEM SO ARBITRARY FIRST TO SAY THAT THIS PENSION JUST SAY THAT WE'D ALL LIKE IT THIS BIG I REALLY THINK THAT IF YOU WERE TO AVERAGE THE HOMES IN THAT ITS SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET FIVE HUNDRED RADIUS HE'D PROBABLY GET MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE RIGHT NOW I

[270:00] DON'T WANNA BE TRAILHEAD THE RATE IT'S NOT JUST READ ALL THROUGH MAPLETON HILL ARE SOME OF BOULDER'S LARGEST HOMES AND THESE ARE SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN MANY HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OK CINDY AND THEN MY DECISION IS THERE I KNOW I'VE READ IT BUT IS THERE A TABLE THAT SUMMARIZES THE SIZE OF UNITS THE NUMBER IN THE SIZE OF THE UNITS THAT CAN BE DIRECTED TO US DIRECT US TO IT. ARE WE UPSET THE PAGE EIGHT ON THE SITE PLAN HAS SOME OF THAT. SO ARE THE PAGE EIGHT ON THE PART TO SAY PLANS AS GOT PAID SEVEN AS WELL ONE O EIGHT OF THOUGHT AND ACTUAL PLANS A ONE HOUR LATE AND ONE POINT KNOW IT WILL JUST WAIT IN YOUR EYE. IT IS CONGREGATE CARE FOR AND THAT'S THE PAGE

[271:00] JUST NOT INTERRUPT I'M SORRY IT'S THE PETS PAGE EIGHT OF ONE THIRTY EIGHT ON THE SITE PLAN OR SHE HAS YET TO HAVE HER ACT IN TOW I WAS I AGREE WITH MARY IN THAT IT'S GOOD TO CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY AND I THINK THE BUILDING HEIGHT MASS SCALE IS TOO INTENSE AND TOO DENSE TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND I AGAIN I THINK IT AT THE VERY LEAST IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REDUCED BY AT LEAST TWENTY PERCENT. IT'S CONGREGATE CARE IT'S NOT JUST OPEN HOUSE ON F A R E A TWENTY PERCENT REDUCTION ON A TWO THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT UNIT WOULD MAKE GET EIGHTEEN HUNDRED EAT WHEN HUNGRY WHICH IS STILL LURK STRETCH SIXTEEN WE'RE NOT TALKING TO E KING ARTHUR SIXTEEN HUNDRED. SORRY STILL BIGGER THAN MY HOME AND YEAH

[272:02] AND THERE'S THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE HERE IF I RECALL CORRECTLY IS MORE THAN THAN IN CAR. P SO THE COLLECTIVE COLLECTIVE SO WHEN ONE PUTS IT ALL TOGETHER I MEAN IT'S IT'S IT'S AH IT'S LARGE BUT JUST FOR REFERENCE THIS PROPOSAL IS LESS THAN HALF OF THE DENSITY OF THE CURRENT ACADEMY ON THE HILL WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE LOT SIZE IN AGAIN. IF YOU FACTOR IN THE LOTS AS WERE WERE ABOUT ARE ALL ONE LEVEL DENSITIES WERE TALKING THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DENSITY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BOOK IN THE MATCH. I AM AGE THREE WHO CAME HERE WE NOTE THAT THIS IS COMMON GROUND THAT THE NUMBER OF UNITS ISN'T A CONCERN IT'S SOMETHING THE SIZE OF THE UNITS I PUT THAT OUT. I HAVE AARON NESS WOULD LOOK JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING

[273:00] TWENTY TWO HUNDRED HE FOR THE EDGE TO THE COTTAGE WAS YEAH BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S THE POINT OF TWENTY TWO HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT COTTAGE FOR A COUPLE SHE KNEW THAT IT IS A LARGE LARGE CAT WAS NOT WHAT I WOULD CALL COTTAGE THAT IS THAT IS I PREFER THE TERM OLDER ADULT THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND IT IS BASICALLY A HOUSE WITH A COURTHOUSE ANY OTHER THUS THE QUESTION IS CAN WE IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY BY NOT HAVING SUCH LARGE IT'S JUST A QUESTION THAT WOULD GET THIS URGE TO AARON DENTISTS. WELL WE DON'T JUST MEAN YOU CAN JUST HOP IN MY MANY WERE ABLE TO HEAL COMPATIBILITY AND ACTUALLY OVER COURTING AT TWENTY TWO UNDER THE TWENTY ONE HUNDRED. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE WE GOING TO GO TO FIND TWENTY ONE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET AS THE EXAMPLE ON MAPLETON HILL IT JUST ISN'T

[274:00] WHAT THESE SAY MALL THEY REPLACE THESE ARE THE MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT THAT I'M LOOKING AT HIM LOOKING AT LIGHT FOR EXAMPLE IN B THREE. THERE'S ONE UNIT THAT'S TWENTY FIFTY ANOTHER ONE THAT'S TWENTY ONE HUNDRED YOU HAVE IN BUILDING B ONE YOU HAVE ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY IN BUILDING B TO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SO YOU HAVE THEM IN IN THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THAT ARE LARGE UNITS THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I THINK ARE THE BULKY ONCE ASKED A QUESTION OF WHEN WE REPLY THAT ON COMPATIBILITY CRITERION IS THAT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE BUILDINGS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY OF UNITS WITHIN THE BUILDING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S BOTH OF US BOTH. OK MOSTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPEAR RIGHT NOW IS UNITS WITHIN

[275:01] THE BUILDING BECAUSE I'VE HEARD ANYBODY SPEAK SLEEP INSIDE THAT BUILDING IS TOO BIG ITS CORE. I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TWENTY ONE HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT KNOW I KNOW IT'S IT'S BOTH BECAUSE IT'S THE AGGREGATE THAT CREATES THE BULK OF THE BUILDING BUT YOU THEN YOU HAVE SMALLER UNITS OF THE SEAMS AS BUILDING MORE UNITS AND MORE SMALLER UNITS AND SIMON TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE'RE IN FLUX DENSITY YET DRIVEN FOCUSED ON THAT BUILDING IS BIG AND UGLY WERE SOMETHING LIKE PEOPLE WOULDN'T IT ELSEWHERE FOR APARTMENTS OR MAYBE THE KNOW HIS IN KIEL AND WHAT WAS SAID WAS THE POINT THE MASSIVE SCALE BUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS IS A PROBLEM BUT THE AGGREGATE IS SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. COULD THAT BE ADDRESSED BY HAVING SMALLER UNITS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE RATHER LARGE GET THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS WITH A SMALL LESS MASSIVE SCALE EVERY THING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT BUILDING IS LOOKS TOO BIG. THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING OK BUILDING B THREE LOOKS TO BAKE THINGS I HAVE

[276:02] NEXT IS ERIN AND SAM SOON THEY'LL SWIM IN THE QUEUE SO YES SO WHAT AM I UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING WITH THIS IS ABOUT TRYING TO TRYING TO PROBABLY SHAVE THE FLOOR OFF OF SOME BUILDINGS SOMETHING LIKE THAT LATELY I HEAR YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE SIZES ARE LARGER THAN ARE STRICTLY NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN BUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SHAKE THE FLOOR OFF AND THEN BY DOING THAT REDUCE THE SIZE THE UNITS BY TEN OR TWENTY PERCENT. I THINK YOU'RE INEVITABLY GOING TO LOSE UNITS. IF YOU'RE SURE YOU NO SHAME IN LARGE PIECES OF BUILDINGS OFF I JUST I WANT TO GO BACK TO I THINK A VALUE THAT WE GENERALLY SHARE THAT HEARING SUPPORT FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS WHICH IS THAT WE NEED HOUSING FOR SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY OTHER ADULTS PLACE THE DOUGH ON THE FLOOR THE OLDER ADULTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S IT'S IT'S REALLY A DESPERATE NEED IN OUR OUR SOCIETIES A

[277:00] WHOLE AND I THINK IF IF WE IF WE START A WHOLESALE CHANGING OF THE NUMBER OF FLOORS IN THESE BUILDINGS I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET HOUSING FOR FEWER PEOPLE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE ABOUT SAME . SO REMEMBER THAT BOB I STATED EARLIER MIN BEFORE WE GOT TO THIS THAT I THOUGHT THE COTTAGES OR GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MORE PROMINENT FEATURES AND I DON'T FEEL THE COTTAGES ARE LUXURY CONDOS IN THE FAIRLY LARGE AND SO I FEEL LIKE THOSE IN PARTICULAR COULD BENEFIT FROM SHRINKING THE FLOOR AREA SHRINKING THE SIZE AND SO THAT KIND OF PUT OUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BIGGER BUILDINGS. IT'S MORE COMPLEX YOU KNOW I MEAN BECAUSE WHAT THESE THOSE STRUCTURES ARE TWO DWELLING UNITS AND TWO FLOORS AND SO TO MAKE THEM SMALLER AND TO REDUCE THEM I THINK IS EASIER THAN THE BIGGER BUILDINGS BUT I

[278:00] DON'T DISAGREE AND IN SPIRIT WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING I DON'T THINK A FLOOR OFFICE GOING TO WORK RIGHT FOR AIR AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THE INSTINCT THERE PROBABLY WON'T WORK IF THEY WERE ALL SMALLER THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT WOULD PROBABLY SHRINK AND SO WITHOUT TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS REDUCING THE SIZE SOMEWHAT IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT SOMEWHAT AND MAKE THEM MORE MODEST I MEAN THIS IS A PRETTY PROMINENT AREA IS SOMETHING WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW BCOZ ONCE IT'S BUILT IT'S THERE AND SO WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT ITS APPEARANCE IN ITS BOOK AND I THINK IT REALLY IS ABOUT BALKAN MASSING HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY SAY A WORD ABOUT REDUCING THE NUMBER DRAWING UNITS APPEAR IN THE END OF A CONGESTION IN MEN COME INTO FOR THAT. WHO'S THE POPULATION WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE THIS COUNTY GET CARE IN IN THE MATERIALS WE HAVE BEFORE US

[279:00] THE APPLICANT EVEN TALKS ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE CHANGING TO THEIR LIFES IN POSSIBLY NEEDING MORE HELP AND BEING ABLE TO TRANSITION INTO NEEDING MORE HOW AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT HAS NOTHING TO DO IT THE NUMBER OF UNITS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MASSING AND AND JUST THE BALL IN THE SCALE AND AARON I'M NOT INTERESTED IN KNOCKING OFF THE FLOOR BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL CHANGE SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE SO I CAN CALL A CLUE THAT WITH THE HOPE THAT I DECIDED TAKE YOUR POINT ABOUT THE COTTAGES OR WHATEVER THEY ARE THE HJ BUILDINGS ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE WORKERS THAN THE NEW CLINIC AND SHRINK THE SIZE OF THE UNITS ARE FOR YOU YOU ALSO THINKING OF SOME OF THE BIGGER BUILDINGS ON THE SELL SIDE AND IF SO HOW WOULD YOU MODIFY THOSE NO WAY THAT WOULD BE FUNCTIONAL. I

[280:06] WOULDN'T KNOW TALKING TO THEMSELVES FOR CLASS BUT IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO HIM AND SO ARE THE MOST OF THOSE IN BUILDING AND JUST LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN ARE OUR MOST OF THOSE AIR AND BUILDING AND B BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE OUR SPECIAL PURPOSE BIKE HERE WITH MEMORY CARE AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A MEDICARE THE BAD AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE PROBABLY ALSO A LOT HARDER TO MESS WITH SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY FOCUS STRICTLY ON THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS FOR THIS DISCUSSION THE AIR AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO I WOULD GIVE SOME GENERAL DIRECTION AND THEN LEAVE IT UP TO THEM. I MEAN I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE APPEARED DESIGNING ANYTHING THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GIVE GENERAL

[281:08] DIRECTION CAN YOU GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT THOSE OF US WHO DON'T DO A LOT OF SAY REVIEWS. WELL I THINK THAT THE MORE SPECIFICITY THE EASIER IT IS TO ADMINISTER IT. I THINK THAT ONE APPROACH THAT I HEAR SOME CALL A THING AROUND IS SOME OF THE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS IN REDUCING THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS. IT IS POSSIBLE TO USE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IS YOU KNOW SEEKING THE ASSISTANCE OF THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD IN REVIEWING THE FINAL ARCHITECTURAL PLANS IS JUST TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION TO THEM. GENERALLY SPEAKING IN SAID A GENERAL STANDARD BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE BIT LESS CERTAINTY IN THAT TYPE OF CONDITION AND

[282:00] ASKED A QUESTION SOME OF THE SEASON. THESE UNITS ARE THE MEMORY CARE UNITS EFFECTIVELY FOR SALE NOW THE WORDS ARE THESE PEOPLE ARE MAKING A SUBSTANTIAL CUT DOWN PAYMENT. IS IT IS UNFAIR TO ASSUME THAT THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN PRICE AND SIZE IN OTHER WORDS A UNIT THAT'S A LOT SMALLER WOULD SELL SELL FOR A WHILE FOR US IT'S CLEAR THESE ARE STRUCTURED DIFFERENT THAN NORMAL SALE SO I DON'T FEEL THAT I CAN SEE TO IT THESE ARE STRUCTURED AND IN ESPECIALLY UP IN THIS AREA IT'S ALL ABOUT QUALITY OF FINISHES WE HAVE VERY SMALL UNITS GOING FOR OVER THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT AND LARGE ONES GOING FOR LAST AND IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S THE QUALITY OF CONSTRUCTION. I JUST WENT THROUGH OUR ASSESSORS RECORDS THOUGH FOR EVERY PROPERTY NOT IN TRAILHEAD BUT ACROSS THE STREET AND OUT OF TEN I CAN FIND TWO THAT ARE LESS THAN TWENTY ONE HUNDRED ALL FOR REDUCING MC MANSIONS IN BOULDER BETWEEN ONE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET IS NOT A MANSION IS NOT A HUGE SWELLING AT ALL

[283:00] IT'S A DREAM HOTTEST PLACE I'M JUST STILL GETTING LOST OVER THIS CONVERSATION VERY NOSES CAN SAY EIGHTY NINE IN TERMS OF BRINGING IN SALES PRICES OF THINGS LIKE THAT INTO THE CONVERSATION THAT'S NOT PART OF SEC DID I AGREE THAT A MARRIAGE JUST WHAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT IS THAT WE WE KIND OF FRANK THE PROJECT BECOMES NO LONGER ECONOMICALLY VIABLE WE CAN KIND OF TRINKET SAM SUGGESTED OR DO OTHER THINGS AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT IN THE UPCOMING APPEARANCES WILL YOU KNOW WHAT THE MODEL DISCO BROKE BECAUSE I CAN'T I CAN'T SO YOU KNOW ACCOUNTS ALTHOUGH SMALLER UNIT FOR THE SAME PRESS THE CONSOLE WAS EXPECTING SO FOUR SIDES WANTED TO BE WORKING IN THE WORLD A REALITY AS WELL BECAUSE PERSON WITH AN ECONOMIC MODEL OUT THERE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TERMS ARE BUT WE JUST NEED TO BE SENSED AND THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY WON'T GET BUILT TRUE BAG JUST TO MARK OUR AQUARIUM AT THE OTHER PIECE

[284:00] OF THAT IS THE COST WILL BE LESS AND SO YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE A COST AND PRICE AND ALL OF THAT AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY AND GUESS WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK I'M SURE THAT WE'LL HEAR FROM THEM BEFORE THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER AND WELL I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES OF HAVING A FOR PROFIT ENTITY COHEN IN ON A AREA. I HEARD WITH THE ATTORNEY SAID BUT THAT'S A PINING AS WELL AND INTERPRETATION AND SO THIS GETS INTO THAT PART OF IT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE BOTTOM LINE MAYBE IT'S DIFFICULT I MEAN I GUESS OTHERS SAY HOW I'M KIND OF URINE WHERE THE CONVERSATIONS GOING. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ACTUALLY COALESCE THING TO BE HONEST AROUND A DIRECTION AND AROUND YOU KNOW WE'RE BASICALLY DOWN TO FOCUSING I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT

[285:02] CUSTOM HOMES ON FOR ST. YOU KNOW DETACHED HOMES. I DON'T SEE A LOT OF ANGSTY HAVEN'T HEARD THEM MENTION WANTS AND SO THERE'S THE QUESTION OF THE COTTAGES AND BUILDING A IN BUILDING B WHICH I THINK IS WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL ARE AND IF WE ARE GENERALLY IN AGREEMENT THAT THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT MEMORY CARE BUILDING THE MATTER AND MEDICARE BAD BUILDINGS AND SO ON ARE KEN YOU'VE BUILT THE WAY THAT THEY NEED TO BE FOR THEIR FUNCTION AND ACTUALLY THINK WE'RE DOWN TO EIGHT A SMALL CONTAINED CONVERSATION MUCH I'M MISSING SOMETHING. THAT'S THE SENSE I'M GETTING THAT'S WHAT HOW I WOULD SUMMARIZE GOOD AND I REALIZE RUIN SITE REVIEW BUT IN THE USE REVIEW BRINGS UP THE WHOLE ISSUE OF HOW LARGE THE REHAB CENTER WHATEVER THE TERMINOLOGY FOR IT IS WHICH IS QUITE LARGE FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL

[286:00] THAT'S DOWN ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THE TIME OF THE PLANNED BUILDING C OR D C WHEN YOU THINK FORTY TWO IS TOO BIG OR THE BUILDINGS TO VACANT THE BUILDING IS TO BE IN THE BUILDING USES TO BUILDING C BUILDING C IS THAT MEDICARE MUST SAY THIS IS THE SAME ONE OF THE BENEFITS I THINK THAT OR THEY GO SWIMMING IN THE KNOW IT BUT THE BENT THE MEDICARE BEDS OR SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN TO EVERYONE GOING TO BE ALL IT TOOK WEST THAT'S A QUESTION BECAUSE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT OF THOSE CARE FACILITIES IN THE WEEK WAS DIFFERENT DIFFERENT OF THOSE CARE FACILITIES ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS DIFFERENT ECONOMIC POPULATIONS BUT MEDICARE IS MEDICARE. CAN YOU SPEAK TO

[287:01] YOU ALL SAW THE DENSITY IN THE MASS AND LET'S JUST NOT BUILD BUILDINGS SEEM TO BE A SHAME THAT THE CITY NEEDS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE ON THE SITE BUT THAT'S REALLY A CONCERN BUILDING SEO OIL IN THE BUILDING SEE THOUGH THAT'S WHERE YOUR REHAB IS SOME STUFF LIKE THAT IT DOES EXPLAIN WHO THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO MEDICARE CERTIFIED BEDS AND AS I MENTIONED A PLANNING BOARD I THINK A MENTION TO LAST TIME HE DID BUT HE IS IN MY MIND TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR MAYBE LODGING IS A BIT WOODS SAID. BUT OF MEDICARE PAYS FOR EVERYTHING THE FIRST TWENTY DAYS. NEXT EIGHTY DAYS R HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN DOLLARS AND FIFTY CENTS A DAY THE AVERAGE STAY IS ABOUT THIRTY DAYS WHICH MEANS THAT YOUR AVERAGE COST ABOUT SEVENTY BUCKS A DAY WHEN YOU GET FOR THE SEVENTY DOLLARS THEY YOUR HOUSING YOUR NURSING OR REHAB FOLKS GET YOUR PRESCRIPTIONS YOUR FOOD

[288:00] ITS AND OUR CURRENT CENSUS OF MEDICARE CERTIFIED BEDS ISN'T AS IMPRESSIVE AS I KNOW YOU ALL WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BUT YET WE CAN MAKE THE SMALLER WE CAN MAKE IT DISAPPEAR. I KINDA WANT TO DO THAT. CAN CAN I ASK MICHAEL TO COME UP BECAUSE EVERY QUESTION OR TWO ABOUT BUILDING SEE JUST MAKE SURE AND OR STAND WHAT I'M SEEING ON THE DRYING. I'M ON PAGE SEVENTEEN IS FOLKS ON THE LAWN WHERE IN THE DRAWING SET APART TO SAY THE DASH THREE O FIVE AND SOME LOOKING BUILDING SEA PALM AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE I UNDERSTAND THIS RENDERING RIGHT YOU'VE GOT THE LOWER PART TOWARDS FOR ST. AND THAT OUR PART TOWARDS THE WESTERN SIDE THAT'S CRACKED TWO ARE JUST USING THE COUNTRIES OF THE SITE SO THERE'S A SLOPE THERE THAT COMES ON THE PLANT SO I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOWS IS ONE AND HALF STORIES FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND

[289:00] TO ADAPT FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND WILL USE HER TURN TO HAVE FROM THE EAST SIDE OF THE BILLING THAT IS CORRECT SO THAT ALL ARE THE ELEVATION IS TALLER TOWARDS FOR ST. IT IS AND THAT'S PURELY RESULT OF THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE SITE DROPS OFF IN THAT IN THAT AREA START UP HIGH AND ARE COMING DOWN LOW MEN ON THE SIDE OF THAT BUILDING YOU WILL HAVE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE'S FOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO THE EAST OF THAT BUILDING RIGHT AND SO THOSE THOSE ARE TWO STORY FAMILY HOMES ARE WRECKED AND AGAIN WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE MODEL THE VISIBILITY IS NOT MUCH FROM FOUR ST OF THAT BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE TWO STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES YOU HAVE ANY SHOT HAD TOUGH TO TOP YOUR HEAD TELLING US WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT YOU OR HAVING SOMEONE TELL US BECAUSE I LIKED HIM I HAVEN'T BEEN YET AND THE PLAN SAID HERE IN THE CAT ISN'T ISN'T THERE A

[290:00] SIGNIFICANT PARKING STRUCTURE AND ARE BUILDING. WELL ALL OF THIS BUILDING SEE THE ANDES AND AND THEN POPULAR WHEN IT SHARED WITH US WITH THE CHURCH THE RIGHT BUT IT ALSO SHARED WITH THE HOUSES ON FOR ST. TRUE SIR IS THAT BUILDINGS SEA OF LAUGHS. IT IS WITH THE RED ROOF AND EXPECT THERE'S ANOTHER LOOK HERE'S SAM AND ITS FURTHER WHEN YOU SEE AT THE VERY FRONT IS THE COTTAGE AND RIGHT THE WHITE STRUCTURE WITH THE RED ROOF JUST FIND IT SO YOU CAN SEE MUCH OKAY AND I WAS LOOKING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE COMING ITS DECEMBER TO THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING BEFORE ABOUT

[291:00] WHAT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ABOUT DIFFERENT BUILDING SIZES AND SUCH AND SO WE'RE HEARING FROM THEM THE NIGHT. SEARCH SEARCH NINE ZERO ON FORESTRY THANK YOU TO ASSUME THAT THE SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S THERE'S NOT A LOT OF APPETITE FOR CINDY. THIS INTEREST IN REDUCING BILLING SEE THAT I HEARD FROM OTHER BOOKS BUT WHEN I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ANY OF THEIR PERSONS WITHIN THEIR THEIR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY THEY EXPECT TO BE IN THERE AND ANY ONE TIME WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S BEEN THAT KIND OF ESTIMATION AND I KNOW FRAZIER FOR EXAMPLE HAS AS INDEPENDENT ASSISTED IN THE HEALTH CARE CENTER WHICH IS ALSO USED FOR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE FACILITY FOR REHAB NEEDS AS NEEDED TO STOP OR TO

[292:03] WHATEVER CRACKED MY OR NURSES ABOUT THAT AND THEY SAID THAT ANY ONE TIME WE TEND TO HAVE FOUR OR FIVE PERCENT OF OUR POPULATION THAT COULD BE IN REHAB AND TYPICALLY IT'S AT FRAZIER THE BEST IN TOWN AT REHAB FROM OUR OPINION ANYWAY. BUT IF YOU TAKE FIVE PERCENT OF TROUGHS ACADEMY AND MIDDLETON HAVE YOU HUNTED THE SAY NO MORE THAN THREE HUNDRED B FIFTEEN MAYBE TWELVE TO FIFTEEN MOTHERS FOUR PERCENT FIVE PERCENT OF THE FORTY TWO BEDS SO WE DEFINITELY COULD CUT BACK BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT GREATER BOULDER COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH A DAY DOES MEDICARE PAY TOWARD ONE OF THESE TO PAY EVERYTHING THE FIRST TWENTY DAYS AND HOW MUCH IS THAT EVERYTHING ON A PER DIEM BASIS. WELL I DON'T I'M NOT IN THAT BUSINESS JET I'M NOT TERRIBLY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING INTO IT BUT I FEEL I NEED TO BECAUSE I THINK THE DEMAND IS THERE BUT

[293:00] I THINK IT AVERAGES AROUND FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY WOULD BE IN THE BALLPARK MAYBE EVEN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY IS LESS THAN A DOWNTOWN HOTEL SET TO GET ALL THE MEDS AND YOUR MEALS. SO OKAY SURE BUT DO YOU HAVE A COMPARABLE TERM FACILITY AT THE ACADEMY ON THE HILL IN TERMS OF OUR REHAB REHAB KNOW HOW THE ZONING ARE ALL ONE DOES NOT ALLOW IT SO THE WORD YOU TAKE ALL THOSE PEOPLE SOME TREASURE AND THANK YOU FOR ASIA. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN APPETITE FOR REDUCING THE NUMBER UNITS THIS FEELING AGAIN. OK SO MOVING ON FROM SEE YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT YET SO YES ATTORNEY AND ALSO I THINK D BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER SPECIALIZED FACILITY RIGHT THE MEMORY CARE IS SO SO WOULD ITS BUILDING D IS THE MEMORY CARE FACILITY SO

[294:01] THAT I UNDERSTAND HOW LIKE THE BUILDINGS H AND J THE KIND OF COTTAGES ARE HOMES ON THE HILLSIDE COULD BE REDUCED IN SIZE. IS THERE PERSONALLY I DON'T HAVE ANY APPETITE FOR REDUCING THE DAY IN THE BUILDINGS AND SOME CURIOUS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THAT'S NECESSARY IF SO HOW YOU WOULD THINK ABOUT THAT SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M LOOKING AT VIEWS RIGHT AARON. THIS IS DIRECTLY TO YOUR POINT SO I'M LOOKING ON PAGE NINETY TWO WHICH IS A DASH NINE ZERO TWO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT WOULD BE HOW THE AG BUILDING WOULD READ FROM MAPLETON TO BOTTOM BOTTOM RENDERING RIGHT THAT'S THE VIEW FROM MAPLETON THAT THE PROJECT ENTRY RIGHT AND SO I MEAN I GUESS TO ME THAT'S ONE OF THEM OR INSTITUTION WHEN IMPOSING THE YEARS OF THIS ENTIRE

[295:00] THING YOU KNOW YOU LOOK AROUND FROM THE FOUR STREET SIDE AND THE FIRST THING BEING AN SC IS HOMES EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK UP THE HILL YOU'LL MOSTLY SEE HOME SHOW OF SOME BUILDINGS BEHIND THEM SO WHEN YOU ASK IF THERE'S AN APPETITE I MEAN I THINK THAT'S PERHAPS ONE OF THE BIGGER BOOK HERE FOR REDOING THE SITE AND MAKING IT INTO WHAT WE WANT. I COULD SEE THAT BOOKING SHRINKING BASED ON REDUCING SOME OF THE UNIT SIZES IN THAT BUILDING AND CONTRACTING IT SAID SO DO YOU SEE WHAT I SEE YOU'RE NEW TO TALK ABOUT THAT THAT VIEW IS I THINK IT'S LOOKING GAME NORTH OR CLASSES OR SWEATS RIGHT FROM RIGHT FROM RIGHT CORNER PAPER AND STICK TO THE SITE WERE LOOKING AT THIS HOUR WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE NIGHT AND THEM ANYWAY. I HAVE SOME APPETITE FOR PRODUCING AN IMPOSING THAT IS FROM THE ST ANYTHING

[296:04] ELSE I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF THE UNKNOWN JUST BUILDING A BOMB THAT'S THE QUESTION IS OK. I WANNA KNOW WHAT BUILDING HE IS IS THAT JUST THAT THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS IT TAKES SOME CONNECTION COULD NEAR A BUILDING BUILDING HE HE HE HE LIKE ELEPHANT CONNECTION FROM ADA BE RIGHT. YET AS THE EARLIER CONNECTION. IT'S JUST A CONNECTION IT'S ALSO OUR RECEPTION AREA WE NEED ONE SPOT THAT IS MANNED TWENTY FOUR SEVEN FOR SECURITY PURPOSES SO THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE THERE AND IT'S THE HUB WHERE EVERYBODY ENTERS IF THEY DON'T HAVE A FABIO IN THE SIDE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WAS COMMENTED ON BY STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF THAT SAID THAT THAT THAT CONNECTOR CREATED A LOT OF VISUAL BOOK

[297:01] JUST FROM WORD IS SO UM THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT I WOULD HAVE A SEAT. IS THERE REASON WHY IT'S CONNECTING ABSOLUTELY AND I DON'T RECALL THAT I'D BE KOREA CIVILIAN MEMBERS OF THE WAY I THINK WHOA STOP WAS REALLY AFTER WAS A PREVIOUS EDITION OF WHAT WE HAD DESIGNED AND THERE WASN'T THE VISUAL PROBABLY ABILITY FROM MAXWELL AND FORTH FROM THAT INTERSECTION LOOKING STRAIGHT WEST AND SO WE MOVED BUILDINGS AND MADE THAT ALL GLASS SO THAT IS YOU STAND AT MACS ONE FOR THE DUE WEST UMC ALL THE WAY THROUGH CRACKED AND THERE WAS ALSO THE DESIRE TO ENSURE THAT THE STONE COTTAGE REMAINS A FOCAL POINT A MAN IS IS FAT. THREE STORIES IS WELL ORDERS SAID JUST ONLI ONE THREE YEARS. IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE EIGHTY NINE ZERO THREE ON THE BOTTOM IMAGE SHE CONCEIVED OF THE ENTRYWAY. PLUS WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PAGE NUMBER

[298:02] AND A NINE ZERO THREE NINETEEN NINETY THREE NINETY THREE ON THE BALL HARD TO SAY PLANT. WHAT'S THAT TO THE LOWER PICTURE IS THE VIEW WEST AT THE BUILDING HE AND THEN THE SITE SO AND THAT SHOWS YOUR CONNECTOR SO YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT BUILDING THE BUILDING YEA AND I OH OH AND IT'S BUILDING A NEW OR FRESH AND JUST AGAIN FOR CONTACTS ON THAT. THAT BEING AT THE BOTTOM OF A NINE ZERO THREE. YOU CAN SEE HOW LOW THAT IS ON THE SITE. IT'S THE SINGLE STORY CONNECTOR ALL GLASS FOR PROBABILITY ALL THE WAY THROUGH BUT YOU CAN SEE JUST ABOVE THAT IS AGAIN THAT STONE COTTAGE THAT EXISTS TODAY WHEN YOU LOOK UP THE STREET SO IT IS VERY LOW

[299:02] AND SAYS A MASS AT ALL YET THAT DOESN'T GIVE ME HEARTBURN ABLE TO MEET RELATIVES BUT I JUST I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS ONE THAT WAS COMMENTED I LOOK LIKE THEY IMPROVED OK SOO CHOO WHO WERE IN TERMS OF MASS AND SCALE AND MOVE IN TOWARDS. SO FOR A HUSBAND YET IS THIS MY HOME OR SOMEWHERE ON PAGE A DASH NINE O THREE ON THE TOP IMAGE IS THAT BUILDING A TO KNOW THAT IS THAT THE BUILDING THAT IS TO THE NORTH OF THE BUILDING THE CONNECTOR TRAIL HERE AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE VERY INTERNAL TO OUR SITE AND THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE PROMOTER OF THE SITE AND THE PURPOSE

[300:00] THOSE BUILDINGS IS IS SERVING TWO PURPOSES ONE IT'S TAKING GREATER WAY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE LARGE RETAINING WALLS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THE F AND G BUILDINGS AND THE BUILDINGS ARE FRAMING THE VILLAGE GREEN WHICH WE THINK IS ARE PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT AND PROMINENT LANDSCAPE FEATURE ON THE SITE THAT THOSE GREEN IS THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD SO A LOT A GREAT JOB BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS SO THOSE BUILDINGS OR BRING THAT UP SO THAT THOSE GREEN CAN BE A FLAT LEVEL SURFACE TO PUT SOMETHING OUT TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HERE IN TERMS OF LOOKING FOR MASS AND SCALE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH WOULD BE TO FOCUS ON THE BUILDING AT THE ENTRANCE TO THAT ELEVATION THAT WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT AND NO HOMES. H N J WHERE THEY LOOK DOWN

[301:00] THE HILLSIDE I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT. I MEAN I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE IT'S THE BIG MASSING THAT FACES TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR THAT IS EASILY VISIBLE FROM FOUR STREET THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE'LL HEAR THE MOST ABOUT I MEAN THAT'S I THINK THROUGH LIKE WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WITH THE DAILY CAMERA BUILDING AS WALKING BY TODAY AND ONE THING THAT I WAS VERY HAPPY RE GET ACCOMPLISHED IS BY HAVING THE FOURTH FLOOR STEP BACK AS FAR AS WE DID BUY REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MASSIVE SCALING IT READS IS A THREE STORY BUILDING WHERE YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND SO IF THERE'S SOME WAY THAT WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE LARGER MASSES WHICH ARE FACING TOWARDS MAPLETON HAIR DOWN AND IF THAT'S TOM BY SHRINKING SOME UNITS THAT'S FINE BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT MASS AND SCALE FOR SOME WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT WITH ITS GUIDANCE SAID THE DEVELOPERS WERE BUILDING A NEW ANGLE

[302:01] BUILDING JUST REALLY QUICK I THINK TO ANOTHER VIGNETTES AND I MIGHT ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE MIGHT FEEL A BIT BETTER TO YOU IS ON THE BOTTOM ONE ON A NINE ZERO ONE WHICH IS THE ACTUAL VIEW IF YOU ARE APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE CHURCHES SEE THAT I'VE LOOKED AT THAT ONE AS WELL OK IT DOES SHOW HOW THE RIDGE LINE IS IS PRESERVED INCREASES OR DECREASES AND INCREASES THE VIEW FROM THAT CORE HOME COMPARED OR THE EXISTING BUILDING SETS. SO ON. JUST AS AS AN FYI NINE AND WE DID STRATEGICALLY PUT THE POOL HOUSE JUST TO THE WEST OF THAT AND THAT IS ONE STORY BUILDING COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT CLEAR AND ACTUALLY A REALLY NICE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE CAME HOME YESTERDAY AND YET OF F AND I SAY WELL WE'RE DOING THAT I NEED TO INTERRUPT US WE NEED A MOTION TO COMMIT

[303:02] SOME OF THE SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR IS NO UNANIMOUS HOUSE MEMBERS IF I COULD WHY YOU'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME CHECK I DO HAVE AT LEAST ONE STAFF HERE HAVE MARCY HERE ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION ISSUES AND IN HER INTEREST. I JUST WIRED WERE HAPPY TO STICK AROUND IF YOU ANTICIPATE GETTING TO THAT OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY FOCUS QUESTIONS AROUND THAT YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON UPDATING IT AS LONG AS WE MIGHT BE THAT THE SONGS HE GET THE IDENTIFIED BUILDINGS LANDMARKS THAT HE MAY HAVE MISSED OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR ASKING KNOW LET'S LET MARSHALL GO HOME. THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING THAT THANK YOU THANK YOU MARCI. OK A VIGNETTE FOR SNG SO WE DON'T HAVE IN YET BUT I DO HAVE THE ELEVATIONS ON ALL SIZES ON AND ON AGAIN AFT IS NOT A

[304:01] BUILDING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A HIGH VARIANCE ON GEE WE ARE BY ABOUT TWO FEET THREE FEET MAYBE BUT WE'RE TALKING BULK AND MASS IN SO I'M JUST POINTING YOU TO A SIX TON ZERO FIVE K IS THE IS THE ELEVATIONS OF ALL FOUR SIDES OF THOSE BUILDINGS RIGHT NUMBERS THAT BEGIN AT SIX ZERO FIVE THE FORMER SHE LIVES IF WE WANT TO DEAL WITH MASKING SO SCARED WE COULD KNOCK DOWN THE SMOKE STACK. I DUNNO SHE'S KIND OF THOUGHT YOU MISSED OUR OPPORTUNITY TO GO ROCK CLIMBING AMENITY THAT HE WANTS TO MAKE A ZIP LINE FROM THERE TO THE OTHER SMOKE STACK OK SO HAVE WE DONE

[305:03] MASSIVE SCALE ARE WE. ANOTHER WORRY WHERE WE WERE SO WELL WE SPENT A PROPOSAL TO FOCUS ON BUILDING A COTTAGE IS BOUNCY THING STILL LOOKING ONES YOU SEE I'M JUST TRYING TO NO EFFIN CHIEF JAMIE WAS TELLING US ABOUT CHEESE SO THIS VIEW AND REVIEW PREVIOUS OR THAT TO KIND OF WAYS TO LOOK AT IT FOR LOOKING A FOR MAPLETON TO RIGHT THE RIGHT OF THE YEAR HERE AND THEN AS YOU BACK DOWN TO MAPLETON TO THE EAST RIVER NEAR LOOKING BACK THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE AND DO NOTE THAT IS A SLOPED ROOF YOU JUST CAN'T SEE IT IN THAT FIRST IMAGE IS AGAIN I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS ELEVATION BUT IF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES DO FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY TO CHANGE IT TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THAT SITE

[306:03] REVIEW CRITERIA WOULD A SETBACK ON THE THIRD STORY FROM MAPLETON OF SOME NUMBER FEAT ACCOMPLISHED THAT GOAL I WOULD ASK APPLE K IF THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN DO THAT IN A TASTEFUL WAY I MEAN THE THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS BUILDING IS IT A NICE BUT AS YOU COME TO THE NEXT YEAR I MEAN THEY'RE FREE TO GO BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THESE TWO VIEWS. THAT'S AWFULLY YOU KNOW RIGHT THERE TO THE HOMES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU KNOW THIS IS RED MUCH LIKE A RESIDENTIAL STREET IN THE BUILDINGS ARE SET FURTHER BACK FROM THIS CURRENTLY. SO I DON'T KNOW IS THERE SOME TREATMENT YOU CAN THINK OF THAT MAKES THIS ENOUGH IT SETTING IT BACK OR A SETBACK I DON'T WANT TO DO THE ARCHITECTURE. I JUST WANNA SAY IT'S THAT MASSING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE MUCH YOU YOUR THERE'S MY NOT SO I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT BUT THOSE ARE DOUBLE STACKED ON THE FLOOR

[307:00] AND SO I DON'T THINK YOU CAN REALLY MOVE IT BACK BECAUSE THEN YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE THE OTHER UNIT AND THEN YOU'RE ON TOP OF THE UNIT ABOVE IT BUT I GET TO SHRINK THE SHRINK THE DEPTH AND IT IS POSSIBLE BUT LOOK AT WHAT AN IMPROVEMENT THIS IS FROM WHAT HAS EXISTED FOR SO LONG MINUTES SHORTER IT'S MORE KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBOR CHARACTER WHAT THE WATER WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING HERE LIKE I JUST THIS WINTER B DAB IS WENT THROUGH PLANNING BOARD AND ALL THE SUDDEN COUNCIL'S GOING TO SEE THE PIER AND PRETEND LIKE WE KNOW HOW TO DESIGN BUILD THINGS WHEN IT'S SUCH AN IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WAS THERE JUST SEEMS VERY STRANGE TO ME IT IS IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM MABEL TEN AND THE BOTTOM LEFT THAT HE IS THE ONE PLACE THAT IS VERY STARK NOW WITH THE EXISTING CONDITION AND I THINK THE NEW CONDITION IS CERTAINLY MUCH MUCH IMPROVED AS COUNCILMEMBER PROCESS. I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT MAYBE THIS SHOT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW YOU IS IT THAT BUILDING IS SET BACK SIXTY FIVE FEET FROM MAPLETON. I

[308:01] MEAN IT'S A WAYS BACK THERE NOW THAT IT'S PROVIDING A LARGE GENEROUS TREE ALONG ON PRESERVING A LOT OF THE TREES THAT ARE THERE TODAY MOM SO IT IS IT LIKE IT'S LIKE THE DAILY CAMERA BUILDING WHERE THEY USE TO THE PARKING LOT WAS BACK TO THE ST. THIS IS PROBABLY SET BACK ITS SIXTY FIVE PPL US SOMETHING ABOUT IT BUT JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. ONCE THIS IS DONE IT'S DONE. THIS IS THE LAST LOOK AT IT AND SO IT DESERVES A REALLY GOOD LOOK BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGER BUILDING PROJECTS EVER DONE WEST BROADWAY AND SO I GUESS I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO TAKE CARE WITH THIS I'M NOT RE DESIGNING IT I'M REACTING TO WHAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE BOOKIE OR ASPECTS IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ELECTED TO DO IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ISSUES AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE NOT ELECTED TO BE A DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD AND CARE HAS BEEN TAKING CARE HAS BEEN TAKEN THEY'VE GONE

[309:00] THROUGH OUR ENTIRE PROCESS AND ARE BORED THAT WE APPOINTED HIM TO SIT HERE THE LAST HOUR AND I ACTUALLY MOVE THIS AND MOVE IT WHEN IT'S SUCH AN IMPROVEMENT IT I KNOW JILL YOU POSTED. COME BE WITH A OPEN MIND AND YOU SEE IT BEFOREHAND BUT LATELY THE STOP THE USE ME PLEASE BECAUSE IT VARIES AFTER LISA AND I I JUST I I JUST WANNA TURN TO ASK JILL IS WHEN YOU SPEAK IF YOU WOULD SPEAK IN MORE OF A COLLEGIAL MANNER THAT IS TRYING TO WORK WITH US. I THINK I THINK UM I THINK YOUR TONE IS NOT QUITE LEGAL. SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT AND I WOULD DIE WOULD I WOULD JUST ALSO COMMENT THAT I AGREE WITH SAM THAT I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN OFF OF MAPLETON AT THAT BUILDING

[310:00] THAT'S A LONG STRETCH OF BUILDING AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REACT TO THAT LONG STRETCH OF BUILDING ALONG THAT THAT ENTRYWAY SO UM WHAT EVER YOU CAN DO TO REDUCE THAT I THINK WOULD BE HEALTH CARE AND I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT WHEN I WRITE I RECOGNIZE THAT I CAN BE PASSIONATE IN MY TONE CAN CALM US ALL TRY TO SPEAK IN A TONE THAT'S MARCO EAGLE BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THE CONTENT OF THE FACT THAT I FEEL THAT FOR US TO DO THIS AT THIS POINT LACKS A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY IN OUR PROCESS WHY DO WE HAVE A PLANNING STAFF WHY DO WE HAVE A PROCESS WHY DO WE HAVE A PLANNING BOARD WHY DO WE HAVE A DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD. IF COUNCIL IS THEN JUST GO IN AND MAKE CHANGES AT THE ELEVENTH HOUR SO I NEED I CAN TRY TO SEE THAT AS SMILEY AND COLLEGIAL A TONE AS POSSIBLE BUT THE CONTENT

[311:01] REMAINS THE SAME AND I AM SORRY BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THAT I WILL SAY THAT B DAB THIS THIS VIEWPOINT RIGHT HERE WAS ONE OF THE KEY IF YOU GO BACK TO BE DAD NOTES WAS ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT THEY INSTRUCTED US TO CHANGE AND REVISE AND WE DID MAKE SIGNIFICANT REVISIONS TO THIS WITH THE YOU KNOW SOME ARCHES SETBACKS SOME MORE WINDOW YOU KNOW VISIBILITY THROUGHOUT THAT SO THIS REALLY WAS ADDRESSED AT THE HEAVILY THIS PARTICULAR VIEW RIGHT. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD WE POSIT TALK ABOUT THE COTTAGES SINCE THAT WAS MAYBE EVEN GET SOMEONE ELSE THAT HOUSES ON UPON THE HILL. LET'S PEEK TODAY. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE LARGEST UNITS YES AND YES

[312:06] OKAY I THINK THAT IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ANYMORE IN DETAIL TO THAT. WELL I MEAN THEY'RE LARGE AND PROMINENT THESE ARE GOING TO BE NEW YOU KNOW FEATURES WHICH ARE NOT THEY'RE CURRENTLY SO YEAH THERE'S A SMOKE STACK THEIR HAND ALL GO OUT ON THE LIMB HERE AND SAY THAT I THINK THAT PUTTING UM YOU KNOW YOU'VE HAD TO DO WORK RIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT PROMINENT AS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND SO I WOULD JUST EITHER ASK OR I WOULD CONDITION THAT THEY BE SOMEWHAT MORE MODEST. THEY'RE THE LARGEST THE LARGEST UNIT ON THE ENTIRE SITE AND SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE A WHOLE LOT PATIENT HEAR HIM SAY FROM TWENTY FIVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET TO TWENTY TWO HUNDRED SQUARE FEET AND USING THAT CHANGE IN SIZE TO MAKE THEM LESS PROMINENT BECAUSE THE TWO FEATURES THAT I SAW ONE WE TALKED ABOUT AND THIS IS THE OTHER ONE THAT I AM

[313:01] CONCERNED IS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW AT LEAST WHEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR MEDICARE BEDS USING THAT MORE FOR GOOD REASON AND IN THIS CASE I THINK USING THE PROMINENCE AND THE BULK FOR YOU NOW. NICE LIVING AND THAT'S FINE BUT I WOULD PREFER THAT THEY NOT BE SUCH A BIG CHANGE FROM THE WAY THEY ARE NOW SO THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY SINCE ROE KUMBLE CAN SCHOOLS ARE A VIGNETTE OF THE J N H POLICE IN HERE SOMEWHERE. COME SEE WHAT THE LAW AND DON'T THINK SO AGAIN YOU HAVE TO AT ELEVATIONS FROM THE FINEST THE ORGANIZATION SOME WAYS SIX O SIX I THINK THERE'S SOME VIGNETTES THAT SHOW THEM IN THIS GHOSTLY FASHION OR SOMEWHERE YOU SHOWING BUILDINGS ON HILLS AND YOU CAN SEE THEM AND KIND OF A TRANSLUCENT WAY. YET THE END I THINK IN THOSE VIGNETTES AND TO THE ONE OF THE KEY

[314:00] THINGS THAT MIGHT BE MAKING A LIKE A LITTLE BIT ON MORE PROMINENT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TRAILHEAD FULLY BUILT OUT AND WE HAVEN'T PUT TRAIL THE TRAIL HAD HOMES IN THERE SO THAT WOULD BE VIEWED AS IF THERE WAS NO TRAIL HUNDRED HOMES THERE IS ONE I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. IT'S COMING TO FEEL BETTER. I AM JUST ON DISSENT FROM ANY OTHER THING ABOUT THOSE IS THAT AGAIN WERE USING THE SECOND STORY SO THEIR WALKOUT SECOND STORY THE SINGLE STORY IN THE FIRST FOUR BUT YOU'VE GOT A SECOND STORY OVER THE FIRST BLACK OVER THE CRASH NEAR NO PATIO KNOW SO WE ARE LIKE MAYBE TWELVE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE IS TO MAKE A UNIT FOR THIS DEMOGRAPHIC THAT HAS POTENTIALLY TO BETTER TERMS A LIVING SPACE AND EVERYTHING ON ONE FLOOR BECAUSE REALLY THE SECOND FLOOR IS SORT OF AUXILIARY SPACE THAT OF

[315:02] THE GRANDKIDS COME OVER OR YOU KNOW FAMILY COMES TO VISIT THE PLACE TO STAY. SO HOW ABOUT A DASH FOR THIRTY FOUR WHICH IS ON PAGE FORTY THREE IS THAT ONE THAT SHOWS THEM GOING UP TO HOLD THAT THE GNG NOW NOT ON MINE EVERY SEE A HEARING ON THE FORTY FOURTH ESTATE TO A DASH FOR THIRTY FOUR WHAT ARE THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SITE SECTION NUMBER TWO BEFORE THE WAR THAT BECAUSE OF THAT THOSE OF THE F AND G BUILDINGS BUT SO IS THAT THE NURSES CUT IN OR SATAN OR THOSE OF THE BUILDINGS FRAMING THE EAST SIDE OF THE VILLAGE CAME VERY CENTRAL TO THE SITE

[316:00] NOT VISIBLE FROM FOUR ST. I THINK HE'S ARE SAM ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE END OF THAT ONCE THE GHOST BUILDINGS THERE TO THE RIGHT TO CORRECT AM. YES ISN'T THAT EACH THE LITTLE GHOSTLY BUILDING TO THE RIGHT OF YES IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE DUPLEX IS GOING UP THE HILL TO THE RIGHT THERE OK. YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT AND THAT IS THE I WOULD SAY THE EAST VIEW OF THOSE AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONE LOOKING DOWN TRAILHEAD AND IT'S A TWO STORY WALK OUT ON THAT SIDE IT'S A SINGLE STORY FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIGHTS OF THE WEST SIDE ISN'T A REALM AND MISSED AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND. SO THAT'S THAT'S I GUESS THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING EXACTLY IS THAT THOSE YOU'VE RIPPED A TWO STORY THE BOOK HERE THE MORE MASSIVE SIDE OF THOSE DUPLEX IS ARE FACING RIGHT OUT FOR YOU AND I THINK THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW FOR SLOPE STABILIZATION PURPOSES AND

[317:00] THINGS LIKE THAT THE ALTERNATIVE THAT WOULD BE RETAINING LOSS. OK NEW SHRINK SOME OF THEM BACK OR SOMETHING. I MEAN AT LEAST RENT THEM. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT THE WAY THE IT'S IN US MOVING HIM BACK TO IT'S A PROBLEM FROM THIS STANDPOINT AND A GRATING BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ACCESS POINTS FOR THE COMING OFF OF THE DRIVE GOING UP TO THE NURSES' DORMITORY. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ITS SLOPES STEEP DUSTY MESS AND THAT'S SORT OF A CONSTRAINT GOING BACK INTO THE HILLSIDE FARTHER. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THEY'RE THE SIZE BECAUSE THEY'RE PARTIALLY USED AS RETAINING WAS CORRECT. FROM THAT FROM THAT VIEWPOINT NOW FROM THE TWO STORY VIEW THAT'S PART OF IT BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS HER VIEW SAID TRIM TEN PERCENT THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT BUT CARS COST A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT SIZE YOU CAN LOOK AT A TWELVE HUNDRED OR FOURTEEN OR SCORE FOR UNICEF THAT'S REALLY BIG FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON EXCUSE ME AN OLDER PERSON ALL THE BUT I

[318:03] WANT TO POINT OUT THAT SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE AND SOMETIMES FOR MEDICAL REASONS THEY'RE SLEEPING IN SEPARATE BEDROOMS. SOMETIMES THEY'RE EATING I LIVE IN CAREGIVER OUR LEASE AND OVERNIGHT CARE GIVER CAN BE A LITTLE MORE CROWDED THAN ONE MIGHT THINK AS AS LIFE'S INDIGNITIES IMPOSED THEMSELVES UPON US AS WE AGE AND SO TO THINK OF THESE IS JUST A HOME FOR SINGLE PERSON I THINK IS NOT QUITE THE RIGHT WAY TO LOOK AT MY HOUSE WAS THE ONE THING ABOUT UNITS UNIT COUNT TONIGHT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT COUNCIL TONIGHT HAS NOT ATTACKED THE UNIT COUNT ON IN THIS INDUSTRY HUNDRED UNITS OF INDEPENDENT LIVING IS VERY SMALL KIND OF NUTS TO DO SMALLER THAN A HUNDRED I DIDN'T KNOW THAT TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO AND IT TOOK ME FIFTEEN YEARS TO FIGURE OUT A FIX THAT BUT WE'RE RIGHT AT THE LOW END OF YOUR ACCOUNT AND THEN FINALLY IN TERMS OF SIZE AND COMPATIBILITY WITH

[319:01] THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU LOOK AT FRASIER WHERE YOU TAKE A SMALL PORTION OF THEIR SITE AND LET THEM ADD NINETY FIVE UNITS OF THE SIZES WERE TALKING ABOUT COMPARED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS VERY LARGE LOSS. COMPARATIVELY SMALL HOMES THAT IS FAR LESS COMPATIBLE THAN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE BUT TODAY THIS IS YOUR CALL YOU TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT SO UM I I JUST HOPE YOU'LL SEE FIT TO OF LOOK AT THE USE AS A GOOD USE OF A PROBLEM WITH THE ZONING OR LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS I GUARANTEE YOU WE LOOK AT THAT AND WE CAN LIVE WITHOUT IT MAKES A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE TO A SINGLE ZONE FOR THE WHOLE SITE IS ONE SITE AND THEN A MASSIVE SCALE. YOU DICTATE WILL LOOK AT IT WILL TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. THANK YOU THANK YOU. LET'S CHECK IN FOR SECOND IN PROCESS. WE READ EARLIER TO HAVE SOMEBODY

[320:02] SPEAK. ANYBODY CAN LEARN TO SPEAK TO THE HE NEW PROPOSAL MAYBE WE SHOULD PAUSE AND DO THAT WORK TO LET PEOPLE BE OKAY AND UH WE'RE TALKING THREE MINUTES THAT WORK FOR YOU TO WRESTLE. OK WHEN YOU COME US ON THREE MINUTES TOTAL. OK AND RUSSELL HENDERSON. AND IT'S ABOUT THE BEACON TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OK WELL IRL ONE KNOW THE GIST OF THE NEW PROPOSAL JUST ON THE NEW PROPOSAL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNDER A COVENANT RUSSELL REVIEW AND SEE ALL THE TALK NOW WHAT ABOUT TYPOGRAPHY KNOW AT THE GYM TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW PROPOSAL. YES OF A NAME YET OR COVENANT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING RIGHT. I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE ALL TO RE LOOK AT

[321:00] SOME OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED EARLIER BECAUSE YOU JUST ENERGY. OH YES HI ALL MY THANKS IRA BEHR AND WE COLLECTIVELY JUST HAVE SOME COMMENTS FIRST. WE THINK IT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE FOR US TO COMMENT ON ILLEGAL OFFER WE HAVE NOT REVIEWED. WE HAVEN'T EVEN READ. SECOND WE THINK THE GAME DAY DECISIONS ARE INAPPROPRIATE IN A JUDICIAL ARE QUITE THE JUDICIAL PROCESS AND WE KNOW THIS IS TOUGH. I MEAN IT'S JUST LIKE THE HEIGHT MORATORIUM THAT YOU'LL HAVE ADOPTED AN EXTENDED I MEAN YOU WANT CLEAR RULES ON WHAT A COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS BEFORE WAVING OR CHANGING YOUR HEIGHT AND IT'S THE SAME SORT OF THING THAT YOU'RE FACED HERE BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL VEHICLE TO DO DO THIS SITE REVIEW DECISIONS MUST BE CONSIDERED SOLELY ON SITE REVIEW CRITERIA YOU KNOW BASING YOUR DECISION ON THE EIGHT NON BINDING SPACES AT THREE ELEVEN OR THE HUNDRED UNITS PROMISED HERE TONIGHT. DON'T FOLLOW

[322:00] THE RULE OF LAW ON WE ARGUE THAT FOLLOWING THE RULE OF LAW IS A FUNDAMENTAL GOOD IN ITSELF AND HOPE THAT YOU ALL BELIEVE THAT TO THAT SORT OF THE FOUR COMMENTS WE HAD HAVING NOT READ ANY OF THIS WE DO THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF HEIGHT ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED THAT WEREN'T DISCUSSED BUT WE UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHY CAN'T WE SPEAK I COULD SAE WE'VE ALREADY HAD A HEARING. OK CAN WE TALK IDENTITY BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE JUST FOR NEW MATERIAL WITH CITIGROUP BET THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THE HEIGHT THE NEW MATERIAL THANK YOU VERY MUCH AT ALL MUSLIMS. OKAY OKAY WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON KICK AND I JUST ASK OPEN SPACE. OTHER KNOWN OUR WORLD SO HE TELLS YOU YES YOU HAVE TO LEAVE YES I THINK ANYONE ELSE WHO

[323:04] WANTS TO COMMENT. THIS WAS NOT I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD JUST ENTER. SO THIS IS THAT THIS IS QUESTIONING OF PEOPLE WHO TESTIFIED PRIOR IN PRIOR HEARINGS IT'S NOT A AIRING SO THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU JUST HAD WITH MR. BEAR AND WAS AKIN TO THE SAME KIND OF CONVERSATION YOU'VE BEEN HAVING ALL NIGHT WITH THE APPLICANT. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMEONE WHO HAS TESTIFIED TO CLARIFY THINGS. I THINK THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE CALLING TO REOPEN THE HEARING. IT'S BEEN COOL WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT TESTIFIED LAST TIME BUT WERE GIVEN THE LUXURY IN INDIANA PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING AGAINST THE ADVICE I DON'T KNOW EVERYONE'S NAMES IN THE ISAAC AGENCY WITHOUT MIKE AWESOME BUT I JUST THINK FOR US TO GIVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT TESTIFIED THAT OTHER STATE COUNTY AND ASKED FOR QUICK ADDRESS FOR QUESTIONS AND THAT COUNCIL HAS DONE THAT FROM TIME BEGINNING WE

[324:01] ALWAYS RESERVE THE OPPORTUNITIES OPENED UP THE SUN HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS JUST ME ABOUT THE WHY WOULD WE ASK ANYONE ELSE WHO TESTIFY TO SOMETHING I CAN SAY I CAN RESPOND AT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE CONSISTENTLY HAVE SPENT YEARS THEY DIDN'T JUST SHOW UP WITH THE WAY WE REALLY NEED YOU ALL THE FLEAS BE A TAILSPIN SINCE THE INITIAL REZONING OF THE USE SAY THE TRAILHEAD ET-CETERA SO THEY HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THESE THINGS FOR YEARS AND HAVE SOME EXPERTISE IN THE AREA AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THIS TO MOM ON LESTER SOMEBODY SPECIFIC THAT YOU ADDRESSED OPINION I DON'T SEE PEOPLE THAT GOT ITS SELF THAT IT OPENED UP TO CERTAIN PEOPLE. IT WAS AN INVITATION TO SOMEBODY WHO WAS RESPONDING TO NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAD NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE

[325:04] AND THE PROPONENTS OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WHICH I QUITE THANK THEM FOR BRINGING MISS OFFER FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S MUCH MORE CERTAINLY THAN WE USUALLY GET OR MAKE AN DECISION LIKE THIS. IT WAS NEW NEWS TO PEOPLE AND SO CINDY ASKED TO SPEAK TO AND HAVE SOMEBODY ANSWER WHAT THEIR RESPONSE WAS AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WHEN THEY GOT UP TO SPEAK WE DID CUT THEM OFF SEVERAL TIMES SO THAT THEY COULDN'T ADDRESS ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE SO I THINK THAT WE BEEN FAIR TO BOTH SIDES HERE AND SO I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND ANYTHING I DO THINK IT WAS QUITE SPECIFIC AND THE SCOPE THAT WE WERE WANTING TO HEAR ABOUT A CAT TWO HANDS UP LIKE TO MOVE ON THAT ME AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THIS MAYBE THIS MIGHT HELP CLEAR IT UP FOR EVERYONE. I BELIEVE DURING OUR RETREAT I HAD ASKED THAT WE BE ABLE TO CONTACT SPECIFIC PEOPLE IN

[326:00] THE AUDIENCE TO ASK A QUESTION IF WE HAD ONE AND SO WE ALL AGREED ON THAT AS FAR AS I REMEMBER AND SO I BELIEVE THAT JILL IF YOU HAD A SPECIFIC PART I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN SEE BUT IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE WE HAD A QUESTION FOR WE WERE ALLOWED TO ASK THAT I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT CITY WAS DOING SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO WALK OUT THERE AND SEE IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENTION OF WHY I EVEN BROUGHT THAT WAS UP WAS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE QUESTION SOMETIMES THEIR SPECIFIC PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW HAVE EXPERTISE ON A SPECIFIC TOPIC AND WE ARE HOPING THAT THEY COULD HELP US TO SOW GOOD OR GOOD IN THE CAR. OK SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. I HAVEN'T I I GUESS A QUESTION CAN WE JUST START MAKING SPECIFIC PROPOSALS DUE TO THESE QUESTIONS FOR EXAMPLE OF FOLKS READY FOR EMOTION ON REZONING WE DO THAT WE DIDN'T

[327:00] FINISH THE REVIEW. WE JUST DID ONE ITEM AND SECOND WERE SEVERAL BOMB AND IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN SHE LETS THIS IS THE REASON THEY SAY WITH OUR OTHER OTHER ISSUES THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BREAK UP UNDER THE SITE REVIEW CRITERIA YES YES OK MARY THE TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIONS. OKAY UM UH IN THE WHEN THE TRAILHEAD CAME BEFORE PLANNING BOARD WE ASKED THEM TO CREATE A CONNECTION INTO THE NEXT PROPERTY WHICH WASN'T THEIRS IT'S THE NORTH SOUTH ROAD THAT YOU CAN SEE JUST BEHIND THE FIRST ROW HOUSES AND THERE WAS A LOT OF UM THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT BUT WE ASK THEM TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE WON IT A CONNECTION TO

[328:01] THE PROPERTY WAS ADJACENT PROPERTY WENT TO DEVELOP SO THEY DID IT SO NOW THERE'S A ROAD THERE THAT IN THE SECOND POINT IS THAT AGAIN IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE EXISTING MEDICAL BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT SO THERE'S SAND THAT WAS INTENDED AS A CONNECTION AND CONNECTION TO WHAT CONNECTION THE CONNECTION WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I'M NOT GOING ASK FOR A ROAD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FOOTPATH AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FOOTPATH THAT IS NOT LIKE THE ONE THAT GOT PUT IN AT THE TRAILHEAD WHICH IS COMPLETELY OBSCURED THAT FOOTPATH THAT IS OBVIOUS AND USABLE AND THAT CREATES A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO

[329:03] PROPERTIES AND I AND I'M ALSO ASKING IT TO BE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION BECAUSE I THINK TO MAKE IT A ROAD WOULD ALSO CAUSE A LOT OF DISRUPTION TO THE BUILDINGS. I THINK IT WAS C AND E SO WELL UNDER SLOPES TO MARRY WHERE SPECIFICALLY HE CAN. OK THE MEAT JUST OPEN IT UP IN THE SO I'M LOOKING AT PAGE ONE. ACTUALLY OF THE OF THE PLANTS PART LINKED HER TO TEARS SO NO I THINK I THINK IT WOULD BE A PLANNED PLANT FOOT PASS THAT WOULD CONNECT INTO THE I THINK

[330:00] THAT'S KIND OF A LUNAR SURFACE. TREAT IT WOULDN'T BE BUILT NOW BUT IT WOULD BE IN THE PLANTER THE FUTURE AND IT WOULD BE TO PLAY ON THAT MAP WHERE YOU SEE I FIND DUCK YOUR HEAD IS NOT WHERE THE BUILDINGS AND THE DAY THAT IT WOULD BE A PLANNED CONNECTION FOR WHEN THAT WHEN THE TREE DEVELOPS THE JIST IS THAT A FEW WEEKS IT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT THAT IF THIS WERE THE BELLES OF THE YEAR OF SCOTSMAN HIM OR HAVE SOMETHING COME IN HE COULD STAY OK SO YOU'RE ASKING SO THAT IF THAT SITE IS EVER

[331:00] DEVELOPED. ONE GETS PUT IN YET THAT MEDICAL OFFICES EVER REPLACE. THAT'S CORRECT OKAY I JUST HELP SUPPORT FINE WITHOUT IT. IT'S LIKE AN ALLEY. OKAY YEAH IT'S IT'S THE BACK IN THERE THEY'RE GOOD. THIS COULD CRITERIA TO HANG ON. YES YES OKAY OKAY AND THEN ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH THAT AS I KNOW BUT JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT ONE POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE FOR ABOUT ONE STREET WEST GOING TO WEAR THE CORNER IS BECAUSE THE PILL IS THAT TO STEVE BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'VE MADE A CONNECTION BUT IT'S ONLY ONE BLOCK OFF OF AN EXISTING CONNECTION WHAT ABOUT ONE THAT'S ONE BLOCK FURTHER WEST YOU SEE THE GRADE WE DID LOOK AT THE STAFF AND WE WERE

[332:01] PLANNING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO SOME SISTERS THEY ARE AND WE JUST ALL CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS TOO STEEP FOR JUST A SERIES OF STAIRS THAT WOULDN'T BE FRIENDLY AND PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF JUST COME BACK OUT THE FOURTH BUT THIS OTHER POSSIBILITY WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SURGERY CENTER AT A FUTURE DATE. THAT'S NOT AS STEEP AND WOULD BE FRIENDLIER AND WORKING THEIR WAY ALTHOUGH I GOT FOR ST ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL FEELS IT'S IMPORTANT TO DO A ONE BLOCK FURTHER WEST WE CAN CERTAINLY DO ABOUT IT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY FORMIDABLE SET OF STAIRS TO EVERYONE ELSE WILL IT TO BLEED AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP THE PARKING GATE AND AS PART OF SAID REVIEW I'M GOING TO INVOKE EIGHT POINT ZERO THREE MM AND EIGHT POINT ZERO THREE HE IS I WILL

[333:00] BRING IT UP READ NO INCOME PLAN POLICY. I'M TALKING COMP PLAN POLICY AND IT IS PAGE NINETY FIVE OF THE TWENTY FIFTH TO UPDATE ITS EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES AND THE LAST PART OF IT WELL AND SO I WILL INVOKE THAT CONTENT POLICY AND WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT THERE'S TWO HUNDRED HOW MANY PARKING SPACES HAVE TWO HUNDRED AND YOU WERE SO HAVE THREE HUNDRED AND FOUR PARKING SPACES AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONSIDER PAYING WORK AND IT AS FAR AS THE HOME THEY UNIT COUNT

[334:03] THE UNIT PER ACRE COUNT WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING ALL OF THE NON RESIDENTIAL USES WE HAVE THREE HUNDRED AND IT'S A TWO HUNDRED PARKING SPACES FOUR TO NINETY THREE UNITS I'LL REMOVE A THIRD OF THOSE AT THROUGH HOBBS IT'S PROPOSED TO HAVE SEVENTY FIVE FOR A HUNDRED I THINK IT IS UNITS TO ME THAT'S A NECK AND EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES AND IT'S PUTTING THE BURDEN ON A DIFFERENT SOCIO ECONOMIC POPULATION IN ORDER TO PRODUCE THIS ONE THAT HAS ALL THE AMENITIES INCLUDING PLENTY OF PARKING SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR THAT REASON SOME PARKING REDUCTION. HE KNEW. I AGREE I

[335:00] HAVE A QUESTION HERE WHY SO MUCH PARKING IN IS IT REALLY SO NECESSARY IN HIS HER WAY TO REDUCE THAT WHILE WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO GO TO THE CHURCH AND MAKE PEACE WITH THEM IN TERMS OF OUR SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT AND DOING THAT REQUIRE THAT WE CREATE ABOUT EIGHTY SPACES THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE CREATE. WE'VE GOT A FAIRLY INTENSE ABUSE IN TERMS OF THE SKILLED NURSING SLASH REHAB AND WE'VE CREATED SPACES THAT IN ESSENCE WILL PROVIDE TWENTY PARKING SPACES FOR HIKERS ON WEEKENDS. HOW MANY DO YOU INTO SIPPY FOR YOUR RESIDENTS WITH LESS THAN ONE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW AT THE ACADEMY AND I THINK THAT WOULD HOLD TRUE BUT ALSO OF STAFF. WE'VE HAD EQUAL PASSES FOR TWENTY YEARS. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THE BIKE UM I THINK WE TRY TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY AND I'LL TELL YOU TOUCH A NON ISSUE THAT HAS BOTHERED ME FROM

[336:00] THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHATEVER WE BUILD TODAY WILL BE MORE THAN WE NEED TWENTY YEARS NOW AND YET WE GOT A TOO SHORT. WE HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT OUR STAFF NO PARKING ON THE STREET THERE'S NOT MANY EMPLOYERS THAT PROVIDE UNDERGROUND PARKING FOR THEIR STAFF BUT FOR PRAGUE AND WE WANT TO SEW AND HOW MANY TERMS STAFFORD IN THE ONE TIME DUE ANTICIPATED AND THERE'S A REPORT IN THE RISE BUT THE OTHER THREE SHIPS SOME SOME OF THE POSITIONS WILL HAVE TWO SHIPS WERE COLORS ART OR SHIP THREE TIMES THE THREE TIMES A WEEK AND SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO CHANGE AND WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO DO OUR BEST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC CAR SHARING PROGRAM. HERE'S WELL WE OF LETTUCE A VEHICLE PASSES BY KEYING ET-CETERA OF IT IN TODAY. UM YOU KNOW OUR WORLD CHANGING THE DAYS CAN BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM NO I TOTALLY AGREE SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING

[337:01] WITH YOUR STAFF AT FRUIT HOPS I MEAN THEY'RE GOING TO BE AROUND THE CLOCK AS WELL WRITE A SIMILAR BUT AS CAN BE LESS STAFF THAT CAN BE ALL OCCURRED SERVICES AND SO FOR EXAMPLE I DON'T EXPECT EVERYONE TO TAKE HOUSEKEEPING SERVICES WILL RESUME PACKED AND EVERYONE PROBABLY OR MOST PEOPLE TAKE HOUSEKEEPING SERVICES SAME WITH MEALS SAME WITH LAUNDRY ETC ETC AND SO I THINK IT'LL BE LESS SERVICE RICH THERE AND THEREFORE FEWER PEOPLE BUT THERE'LL STILL BE STAFF NO QUESTION ABOUT IT AND I JUST AM A IN YOUR MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT YOU ARE MAKING YOUR HOME CHEFS AND SERVERS EMPLOYEES OF YOUR COMPANY AND ISN'T THAT RIGHT WE ARE. N I TOTALLY PLOT THAT SO TOTALLY WHAT A PLOT THAT I THINK IT'S GOOD TO KEEP EVERYBODY IN THE SAME STRUCTURE SO WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR PSYCHIATRIC BUDGET RUNNING A RESTAURANT

[338:01] IS NOT EASY PIONEERS INDIANS AND I HAD I MISSED PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS ARE A FEW PARTY SAID THIS I APOLOGIZE BUT HOW MANY SURFACE SPACES ARE CURRENTLY ON THIS SITE ALOT. I THINK IT'S OVER TWO HUNDRED CURLY CURRENTLY CALLS TO SAY OK IT'S OK BECAUSE I NEED TO SPEAK THAT INTO THE MIKE. YES WE THINK IT'S SAVE BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR HUNDRED CURRENTLY A SEA OF ASPHALT. OKAY SO UM UP ON TOP NEAR THE NURSES' QUARTERS YOU'RE GOING TO REDO THAT RESTRICTED AND HAVE A PARKING LOT UP THERE HOW MANY SPOTS

[339:02] UP THERE TO SAY TWELVE OR FOURTEEN ON THE BALLPARK FIFTEEN CHANGE SOME OF THAT RANGE AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT PARKING FOR PEOPLE HIKING IN THE TRAILS BUT THAT CAN BE DOWN FROM A SHARED PARKING THAT'S ALREADY THERE WITH THE MEDICAL SOCIETY CAN RIDE AND THE REASON WE WANT THEM AT THE BOTTOM IS WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TROLLING FOR PARKING SPACE NOT FINDING A DRIVING BACK DOWN GOING THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS GOING TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE VISUAL AND HEARING OF DISABILITY AND WE WANT TO KEEP HIM SAFE SO HAVING THEM GO UP AND DOWN TRYING TO FIND THAT ONE SPOT YOU KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE ACTUALLY DON'T YOU BUY SCHOOL BUT LOVE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THAT STORY RIGHT. THE GOAL IS THAT I COULD BE AVAILABLE AS A FIRE STAGING AREAS TO LARISSA ARE LEARNING THERE WILL BE THE LOSS OF FUNCTION THERE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH AS OURS ARE TALKING ABOUT CONNECTIONS AND CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS THAT CURRENTLY

[340:02] THE PARKS THERE AND IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING COULD BE DONE TO ALLOW THE ACCESS THERE BECAUSE THIS CONVERSATIONS TALKING ABOUT ME YOU KNOW AROUND THREE HUNDRED PARKING SPOTS FOR DOCTOR MEHTA REDUCTION BUT THOSE FIFTEEN SPOTS AREN'T REALLY CAN BE USEFUL TWO YEARS FAR AS OFFSETTING THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES HAVE TO PARK IN THE CRASH RATE. I MEAN KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW AND TRUST AND THEY ARE MAKING MAYBE ONE TRIP PER DAY. UM IT'S IT REALLY IS UNWORKABLE FOR ME TO HAVE THAT BE. PARKING UP THERE AND HAVING PEOPLE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING I WANT THAT SPOT YOU KNOW UH PEOPLE DRIVE AND WHEN THEIR CAR FOR FIVE MINUTES TO A SPOT THAT SAVES THEM WHATEVER AND THESE ARE PEOPLE ARE GOING HIKING IT CAN CONVERT A FOUR MILE HIKE AND A FOUR POINT ONE MILE HIKE. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SYMPATHY FOR HIM NOW. I MEAN THAT'S NICE BUT IT ALSO DOES BLOW PAST PEOPLE WITH DOGS UM YEAH THERE'S OTHER THERE'S OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE WAY PEOPLE ARRIVE A TRAILHEAD

[341:02] SIGNS ON SMALL CHILDREN MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE ANY PARKING ELDERLY. WELL HI I SUPPOSE BUT I GUESS I WAS JUST PROBING I DIDN'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE WERE AND YOU IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY DEDICATING ANY SPOTS YOU AND YOUR FACILITY TO THE WEEKEND HIKERS RIGHT ISN'T THAT JUST CAN BE AN ARRANGEMENT THAT YOU MAKE WITH THE MEDICAL FACILITY IT'S THERE WITH US OUR PROPERTY AND YOUR LEASING TO THE MEDICAL RIGHT OKAY WITH THAT SAW THEM. OK GOING TO TIME ON PARKING PROPOSAL WAS TO REDUCE THE PARKING AND YOU AND I ARE A NUMBER OK FOR A PERCENTAGE. SO WHAT. REMIND ME DAVID THE PARKING REDUCTION CAN BE UP TO WHAT

[342:05] THAT PLAN INCLUDE I WAS JUST GOING TO JUMP IN TO SAY THAT IT'S UP TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THIS PARTICULAR YOU SO THERE'S NOT AN ACTUAL PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR CONGREGATE THE IT'S BASED ON THEIR PARKING STUDY AND THAT'S SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A PERCENTAGE PARKING REDUCTION BECAUSE THIS IS SIMPLY BASED ON DEMAND YET AND THE DEMAND IS AS THREEFOLD IT'S SERVING THE USE DIRECTLY FOR BOTH THE RESIDENCE AND THAT THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS THE CARE FACILITY FOR THE CHURCH AND THEN FOR OPEN SPACE USERS WAS THE LATTER OPEN SPACE USERS FOR THE MAN THAT PARKING IS JUST THAT AIRED PART CAME UP ON THE WEEKENDS WITH THE MEDICAL FACILITIES SO THAT'S NOT GOT MUCH TO DO WITH THE CRUSH

[343:01] CRACKED DOWN BELOW THOUGH NOT UP TO FOURTH. WELL IS IT POSSIBLE TO LIKE YOUR DOING AND FOOD HUBS IS HOME THIS ALLOWING CARS CAME TO DISALLOW CARS AND SOME OF THE UNITS AT THREE ELEVEN IT IS FEASIBLE OR SMART TO PRETTY IT IS THAT THE FIRM HAVE SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE THE DIFFERENCE IN MY OPINION IS WHEN YOU TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU TRY AND DO THINGS THAT PEOPLE THINK ARE ADMIRABLE. YOU SHOULD DO IT IN A SETTING WHERE YOU HAVE THE GREATEST CHANCE FOR SUCCESS AND I THINK PEOPLE THAT ARE LUCKY ENOUGH A LIVE IN BOULDER BE LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PALETTE ON AND SEE YOU HAVE A NICE APARTMENT AS PART OF A FULL SERVICE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY AND PAY OF VERY SMALL FRACTION OF WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS PAYING WILL GLADLY DO IT AND KNOW THEY HAVE TO GIVE

[344:02] THEIR CAR IF THEY HAVE TEN ELECTRIC CARS THAT THEY CAN CHECK OUT LIKE A LIBRARY BOOK THAT I THINK IS A RECIPE FOR SUCCESS. I THINK TRYING TO DO IT ELSEWHERE PRIOR TO HAVING A SUCCESS SOMEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY IS HIGHLY RISKY AND I'M NOT ONE TO TAKE THAT RISK BECAUSE I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE TO TRY TO CREATE UNDERGROUND PARKING AFTER THE FACT I HAVE TO HAVE THOSE BUILDINGS UP THERE ON THE HIGHLY CONFIDENT TO WORK FOR OFFICE BUT THERE'S A CHARACTER AND THE CARROT IS HE GOT A GREAT DEAL ON AN APARTMENT IN A GREAT LOCATION GREAT COMMUNITY AND THE ONE THING AFTER HIS CAR AND THERE BE PEOPLE THAT SAY I DON'T WANT TO DO IT THEN THEY CAN LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO DO IT CAN BE PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT'S PLEDGING TO MAKE THE EARTH A BETTER PLACE. SO COULD YOU APPLY EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID TO THREE ELEVEN. YEAH I JUST DON'T THINK IT WOULD SUCCEED HIM I WANT TO TAKE

[345:00] THAT CHANCE IF YOU WANT TO MANDATE THAT WE DO IT THEN LOVE TO LOOK AT THE RIGHT SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE BEEN TO HAVE SHUTTLE WHEN YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THEM. CAR SHARE OR ELECTRIC CARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHAT INTO WHAT CAPACITY ARE YOU COULDN'T DO THAT AT THREE ELEVEN AND WHAT WE HAVE THE ACADEMY FOR EXAMPLE FIFTY RESIDENCES FIFTY TWO AND WE HAVE OF FULL TIME DRIVER MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. WE ALSO HAVE A VAN IN A LARGER VEHICLE AS WELL USE THAT MUCH BUT WHEN THEY ARE NEEDED THEIR GREAT WE'LL GET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ONE VEHICLE AND THAT KIND OF EXCESS CAPACITY I THINK WILL HELP US WITH RESPECTABLE ABLE TO NAP FOR OFFICE BECAUSE FOR US. WHAT A TOUGHER TIME AFFORDING A VAN AND A DRIVER BUT I CAN SEE MAKING THESE CIRCUITS OR TAKING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO CONCERTS OR LECTURES OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND SO WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER WILL BE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE. I SEE AT

[346:00] LEAST A COUPLE MORE DRIVERS TAKING PEOPLE WHERE THEY NEED TO GO AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL BANDS YOU KNOW I I DON'T SEE A LOT MORE MAYBE ONE OR TWO TO OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO FOR PART OF A CHILD JUST LEARNING AS WE GO OFF TO SEE WHAT THE DEMAND IS SO WHAT PERCENTAGE SURE TO ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE ACADEMY AND THE DO THEY ALL HAVE CARS OR DOLLS SOME DON'T KNOW I'D SAY PROBABLY TWO THIRDS AND OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THEIR DRIVING HABITS IS SUCH THAT I KNOW THAT IF WE START OUT OF THE GATE ON ONE SCOOTER CAR AND SHARE A VEHICLE PURSUIT OR A CAR SHARE PROGRAM WILL HAVE BETTER SUCCESS THAN TRYING TO DO AFTER THE FACT SO GOING TO DO THAT AND THAT'S WHY I'M NOT TERRIBLY AFRAID OF THE PARKING REDUCTION CONCEPT BECAUSE WE CAN BASICALLY SAY HERE'S HOW MUCH IT COSTS FOR THE AUCTION CHARGING A LOT FOR THE GARAGE IS ONE THE BEST THINGS WE CAN

[347:00] DO TO TRY TO MINIMIZE CARS AND THAT WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SAY WHY DO I WANT TO HAVE IT ANYWAYS SO ME AND I'M NOT I DON'T LIKE SURFACE PARKING AND ANYBODY WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS THAT BUT I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. ERM TO REDUCE CARS BUT TO ALLOW INSTEAD OF HAVING SO MUCH UNDERGROUND PARKING. TAKE SOME OF IT TO BE SERVICE PERSON I KNOW THIS SOUNDS TERRIBLE AND BUT THAT BUT THAT THAT SURFACE PERSON COULD THEN BE TAKEN OUT REPLACED WITH SOMETHING ELSE AS SOME KIND OF AN AMENITY SO THAT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THIS CAN TAKE YOU TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE AT A MANSION IT'LL TAKE QUITE SOME TIME BUT SO THAT THERE WOULD BE PEOPLE MOVING IN BEFORE WAS DONE CORRECT. I MEAN YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE YOU WILL FACE

[348:01] A SIN. DON'T YOU THINK ARE THE SMALLER GETS THE LESS LIKELY IT'S GOING TO FACE WE'RE HELPING YOU YOU ARE SO I GUESS I'M JUST I DON'T KNOW I MEAN I AM GNA IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S SOME SWEET ERM MIDDLE GROUND WHERE YOU COULD REDUCE SOME OF HER AND HER VAMPIRE THING WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE. SHE KNOW IT WOULD ALSO QUELL SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT TAKING OUT ALL THIS ROCKIN' STUFF LIKE THAT WHICH WOULD ALSO SAVE YOU MONEY AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME TIME TO SAY I CAN GO DOWN TO BETTY'S APARTMENT IF SHE WANTS TO GO TO LUNCH HE HAS A CAR OR I KNOW IT'S INTERESTING I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER HERE AND THAT OUR PARKING NUMBERS EXACTLY RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THE ONE THING WITH CERTAINTY AND THAT IS OUR NUMBER IS WRONG OR TOO HIGH OR TOO LOW BUT I DON'T KNOW WHICH DIRECTION IT WAS OUR

[349:02] BUS GOT US READY AND YOU KNOW A FEW FOLKS FEEL FIT TWO OF MANDATE THAT BE REDUCED BY TEN PERCENT TWENTY PERCENT HUNDRED PERCENT YOU NEED TO DO IT YOU NEED TO DO. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT FORTH OUR BEST EFFORT THE CODE SAYS THAT THE PARKING NEEDS TO MEET THE NEEDS WE'VE EXPERIENCED OUR CHARACTER COMMUNITY FOR TWENTY YEARS WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE FOR THE NEED BUT I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IT JUST RIGHT WE MIGHT BE TOO I MIGHT BE TOO LONG SO ANYONE CAN JUST SAY THIS I WOULD HATE ADD MORE SERVICE FOR HIM BECAUSE LIKE IT WOULD ONLY GO IN PLACES THAT WOULD BE AN AMENITY NOW RIGHT. YOU KNOW AND IT UNDERGROUND SPOTS CAN ALWAYS BE REPURPOSED INTO SOMETHING LATER ON MAYBE NOT SOMETHING THAT EXCITING BUT MANY FOLKS FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE A PARKING REDUCTION ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE AND WE COULD DO IT OR NOT. IN ABOUT FIFTEEN PERCENT WELL AND MADE TEN OF

[350:03] THEM. ELECTRIC CARS LIKE A GIDDY OF US GOT NO PROB WITH TEN BEING ELECTRIC CARS FROM MAKING FIFTEEN OF THEM ALWAYS HAVE THOSE IN THE DAY. HOW MANY DOTS WIDE ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH SAY BEFORE YOU GUYS DO THE YOU KNOW MAKE AN ARBITRARY DECISION AND LOOK THROUGH THE PAGES OF THE PLANS THAT ARE DRESSING THE PARKING HAND THE SPECIFIC NEEDS BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO JUGGLE A LOT OF BALLS IN THE CHURCH PARKING IS A SIGNIFICANT PARKING BURDEN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE ON AND REALLY IT LEAVES US ON THE WEEKENDS ALMOST SHORT ON PARKING PERIOD ON OUR ENTIRE SITE SO IT'S JUST THOSE THOSE TIMES IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT AND ON. JUST CONSIDER THAT AS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T REALLY ANALYZED IT A LOT. THANKS OKAY SO SORRY HOME TO SO THERE'S A FIFTEEN PERCENT REDUCTION PROPOSAL ON

[351:00] THE TABLE CAN WE CLARIFY WHETHER THAT'S COMING EQUALLY FROM THE CHURCH THE RESIDENCE AND THE PARKING FOR OPEN SPACE BECAUSE I'M NOT CLEAR I WAS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENT PROPOSAL TO BE YOU MENTIONED. ERIN YOU MENTION REPURPOSING LATER UNDERGROUND PARKING AND PURSE WHAT WHO KNOWS BUT UM BUT PERHAPS THE REPURPOSING AS YOU FIND LESS MUST NEED FOR RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES COULD BE REPURPOSED FOR OPEN SPACE OF THE VISITORS BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS AN ISSUE UP THERE AND TWO AS YOU SEE LESS AND LESS OF IT BEING USED TO REPURPOSE IT FOR OPEN SPACE PARKING SO I HAVE A FOLLOW UP TO THAT HE GETS A BRILLIANT IDEA BECAUSE THE PARKING SITUATION AT ANITA'S TRAILHEAD IS A REAL MASS

[352:02] WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PUT THAT INTO A MANAGEMENT PLAN SOMEHOW SUCH THAT THAT'S THE KIND OF INTENT IS THAT AS PARKING SPACES GOING USED FOR CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY GET RE PURPOSE FOR PARKING FOR OPEN SPACE AND YOU CAN DO AS YOU WISH I WOULD SEE OTHER POSSIBLE USES TO CAUSE WHILE BATTERY STORAGE HAS BATTERY STORAGE FOR SOLAR BECOMES MORE APPEALING TO SO WE COULD MAKE UNLESS YOU KNOW THAT OR IT IS FANG TO BE A LOT OF THINGS. I MEAN WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DEMOCRATS AND THE ROLLING UP OUR BUILDINGS BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMMUNITY AMENITY IS WELL AND YOU KNOW IT IT'S CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT IN THE LEAD UP TO THIS HAS BEEN ONLY WILL THERE BE HOWEVER MANY LOST PROBABLY TWENTY FIVE OR SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PARK AND NOW BUT IT'S AN ONGOING NEED AND SO I READ I AGREE WITH YOU MARY AND I ALSO AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT IT

[353:02] THERE ARE OTHER BENEFICIAL USES THAT ARE WORTHWHILE BUT IT SURE SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TOO MANY OVER TIME THAT IT BE SOMETHING THAT COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY PARTICULARLY THE OPEN SPACES PROBABLY BEEN THE BIGGEST THING WE'VE HEARD ABOUT SO FAR SO HE CAN MAKE ACCESS EASIER FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO DRIVE TO GET THERE WILL BE GREAT SO I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS AN IDEA FOR HOW TO TAKE MARY'S CONCEPT INTO A CONDITION BUT I LIKE IT I THINK IS VERY CREATIVE SOLUTION THAT CAN LEWIS FORD DID SEE A WAY OF CAPTURING THAT HE IF I GET THE CONCEPT RIGHT. IT WOULD BE SAID THAT YOU WOULD WANT THEIR PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN TO BE AMENDED TO ALLOW THE CONVERSION OF PARKING SPACES THAT ARE NO LONGER NEED TO SERVE THE USE TO BE PUT TO OTHER USES OTHER

[354:02] BENEFICIAL USES WHEN THE CRATE BECAUSE BATTERY STORAGE CAN BE ARGUED TO BE A BENEFIT FROM DIRECT OR INDIRECT BENEFITS OR A CAKE HE ATE LIKE ADMIRED YOU MIGHT WANT TO CALL THAT OUT EXPLICITLY BECAUSE A CONSERVATIVE REASON THE READING AND MIGHT NOT INCLUDE THAT RESTRICTS YOU COULD SAY FOR EXAMPLE PARKING FOR OPEN SPACE ACCESS OR DISLIKE TO MAKE ONE ADDITION TO THAT MAYBE BECAUSE THE CHURCH COULD POTENTIALLY AS THEY'RE GROWING AND THEY'RE TRYING TO THROW THEIR THEIR GROW THEIR CHURCH. MAYBE THE CHURCH WOULD BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE OR MORE SPACES TO THE CHURCH SO WITHIN THAT THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT AS WELL. I WAS JUST THAT ALONG THOSE LINES THAT ONE REASON TO DO THAT IS THAT THE CHURCH ITSELF IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO BE ITS OWN BENEFIT. I MEAN THEY HAVE REALLY CHANGE THINGS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WHERE THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO MAPLE TO NEIGHBORHOOD AND WANT TO

[355:01] BE A CENTER FOR COMMUNITY THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN THERE IN THE PAST SO I THINK THAT'S THE INDIRECTLY SUPPORTING ANOTHER BENEFIT OFTEN THINK THAT IS JUST TO ADD TO THAT THE CHURCHES WE HAD A RETREAT THERE TWO YEARS AGO WAS GREAT PLACE FOR ITS BEAUTIFUL AND I THINK THE CAR CUT ME OFF ONE OF THEM AND KNOW WHO ELSE HAS ANOTHER SITE REVIEW ISSUE WE HAVE ANYMORE SEVERAL USES I'M SO I'D BE WILLING TO GET US STARTED WITH EMOTION AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THAT. SOO I JUST LOST. OK SO I MOVED TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THIS ENTRY FOR REPAIRS CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY AT THREE ELEVEN MAPLETON SITE REVIEW NUMBER L U R SIXTEEN O O SIX FIVE BILLION TO PUT ANY OF THE YET LATELY AND I CAN GET IN SOME CONDITIONS HERE THE COUPLE

[356:02] THAT I'VE GOT HERE OR TO ADD A NEW BUILD HIS OWN ALONG THE WEST SIDE AND STAFFING A LOOK TO YOU FOR HELPING TO CLARIFY THE LOCATION OF THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT MAP IN FRONT OF ME AT THIS MOMENT THE HIT INTO A YES TO THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THE ON THE MAP ELAINE THAT YOU HAD UP EARLIER IT'S NOT ACTUALLY IN THIS PAPER MAP THE ONE WITH ME CONSERVATION AREA. YEAH IT'S THAT WHEN WE HAVE YOUR EAR AND SAID SO YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE LANGUAGE FOR THIS BUT IN THE CONSERVATION

[357:03] CONSERVATION AREA AS DELINEATED ON THIS MAP OUTSIDE OF THE LANDMARK AREA WEST OF WEST OF THE CONSERVATION ON THE MAP OUTSIDE TO THE WEST OF THE LANDMARK AREA THAT PROVIDES FOR MOVING THE COLLEGE CRACKED SOME NEW BUILD A MEAN TEAM NOTCH AND MAINTAIN A NATURAL STATE THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT TO MAKE A BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION SELF FROM THE TRAILHEAD UPON THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT WOULD FOLLOW THE ROAD FROM THE TRAILHEAD TO THE WEST TO THE NEW SNOW QUITE A ROAD THAT ROAD IN BETWEEN THE NEW COLLEGES IN

[358:06] THE BUILDING D WHAT A LOSS FOR THE LAST ONE PART IS THAT THE WOES DAVID'S LANGUAGE THAT THE PARKING BE REPURPOSED OVERTIME IS NO LONGER NECESSARY FOR THE OPEN FOR PUBLICLY BENEFICIAL USE SUCH AS OPEN SPACE PARKING BATTERY STORAGE CHURCH PARK CHURCH PARKING. ONE SELLER ONLY IF IT'S AVAILABLE TO AND I WOULD SAY THAT THAT CONDITION WOULD PROBABLY REST OF THE USE REVIEW. OKAY OKAY THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW SO CAN I GO SIR WELL AS I WAS GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT AND IF OTHER PEOPLE FELT THE NEED TO ADD ANOTHER THINGS ABOUT MASS THE WOODBURY SOMEBODY ON THE SECOND THE SECOND TO KEI SO I WANTED TO CHECK IN ON A CONDITION TO SEE IF IT'S THERE. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT

[359:00] BATTLING TO TALK ABOUT HAVING WEEKEND PARKING AT THE MEDICAL FACILITY FOR OPEN SPACE ACCESS IS THAT CURRENTLY IN THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN. I BELIEVE IT IS HIM SO WE PROVE WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT THAT WILL BE PART OF IT. SO SECOND ONE I WANTED TO CHECK IN ON WAS THEIRS IS MINIMIZED AND MITIGATED ENERGY YEARS CRITERIA AND SITE PLAN A YEAR AND SO ON WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THERE IS A TENTATIVE PLAN TO MAXIMIZE THE SOLAR POWER GENERATION ON SITE THAT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE THAT BE IS AT SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE PLAN THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT WHERE IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CONDITION AS PART OF MEETING THAT PARTICULAR SITE REVIEW CRITERIA COME TO MAKE POLICE THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FROM PLANNING BOARD AND CAN YOU DO THAT. I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY CONDITIONED IN THERE

[360:03] I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE CONDITION. ACTUALLY I JUST NEVER EXACTLY HAD BEEN THERE BUT IT REALLY THAT WAS ONE OF THE PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS CONDITIONS. MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE. YEAH SURE HAD A WONKY BUT I JUST WANT TO RETURN TO THE OTHER SIZES BUT SAID THE BUILDING WITHIN REACT TO THAT THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS HOW WILL ACCOMPLISH BUILDING A IF WE WANT TO DO IT THAT ON THE MAPLETON SIDE AND COTTAGE IS BECAUSE TO YOU AND WE HADN'T GOTTEN A CLEAR CONSENSUS ON THAT SELF TO LEAVE THAT OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY UM SO ONE OF THEM THAT YET LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BALKAN THE BUILDINGS. UM BUT I WANTED TO ADD ANOTHER ONE TWO C OF PEOPLE ARE AMENABLE TO IT AND THAT WOULD BE TO ADD A

[361:01] CONDITION THAT AS EASEMENTS AND TRAIL ACCESS MAP WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT ANYWHERE I DIDN'T SEE IT AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE PLANNING BOARD SAYS TODAY IS A QUESTION WITH THAT WE PUT UP THAT LIST OF ALL THOSE ACCESS POINTS. THAT'S THE LIST IT'S NOT A MONO WE WENT TO THE LIST AND THEY SAID IS IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS IN THE SEC REALLY PLANNED SO I GUESS I WAS GOING ON THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE SINGS ARE IN IT OR NOT AND WE HAVE SOMEWHAT TO MARRY JUST ASKING FOR THE CREATION OF A MAP SHOWS ALL THE TRAILS AND ACCESS EASEMENTS MEAN THAT'S THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. OH FOR THE PROGRESSION GOES THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE PLAN. YES I THINK IT SHOWS UP ON LP O ONE A WHICH IS THE LAST PAGE OF THE PACKAGE. IF YOU'RE

[362:02] LOOKING FOR EASEMENTS AND I DON'T KNOW IF BETHANY COMES TO THE SHE LEFT US A THING BUT THE EASEMENTS HAVE TO BE CREATED SEPARATELY BUT THEY'RE STILL LOCKED INTO DOING WHATEVER SHOWN ON THE PLANS SO AND ALSO THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO A SUBDIVISION TO AN END I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD DO THAT IT'S PART OF THE SUBDIVISION PLANNING PROCESS. OK THAT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME WHERE DOES IT SHOW THE TRAIL ACCESS THAT YOU'RE GUARANTEED A FOUR ZERO FOUR INCHES OVER ARCHITECTURAL SITE PLAN PAGE K A PACKET PAID THE SAID FORD DOT ZERO FOUR GUESTS AT THE TOP AND AT THE TOP THERE IS THE TWO EASEMENTS THE ONE

[363:00] EASEMENT FOR THE TRAIL AS IT CUTS ACROSS OUR PROPERTY AND NORTHWEST CORNER AND THEN YOU SEE A GAS LINE THAT SHOWS AN ADDITIONAL CHANNEL ACCESS ALONG THE SOUTHERLY CATCH THE SHOWS I FOUND IT YET THIS IS THE WORST IS STILL IN TAXES ON THE NORTHERN ON THE NORTHERN PART WHERE THE BATS CRACKED THAT REMAINS THE AGGIES THESE DETAILS MATTER SO I GUESS FOR ANY HELP FROM SORRY SAY THAT AGAIN I'M WELL WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE THAT THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED ARE ACTUALLY FULLY ADDRESSED IN THE MOOD SO YEAH

[364:00] ON A FOUR POINT OH FOR I MAY HAVE MISSED PART OF THIS CONVERSATION BUT AT THE TOP IS THE TRAIL EASEMENT AND IT SHOWN ALL ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY LINE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR HERE YOU CAN SEE IT'S LIKE A COMPLETE LOOP AND IT'S LABELED TRAIL ACCESS ON THE TOP ABOVE BUILDING AND THERE'S TWO ARROWS. I DIDN'T SEE IT ENCOMPASSES THE TRAIL THAT GOES ACROSS AND A LITTLE EXTRA ON THE WEST SIDE OF IT AND THEN THE TRAIL AS IT EXISTS THAT CONTINUES LONG SO REALLY CATCH AND SO JUST KIND OF COMPARING WHAT'S IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S PACKET VERSES THE PLANNING BOARD IS POSITION OF APPROVAL IT LOOKS LIKE THAT CONDITION DID NOT CARRY OVER WHICH CONDITION DUE TO THAT WOULD BE REQUIRING THAT THE ENERGY FEATURES BE THAT THE ENERGY

[365:06] FEATURES B ACTUALLY INSTALLED AS SET FORTH THE APPLICANT'S PLANS CASE ARE THE ANSWER TO HOLD ON I'M LOOKING AT THE MINUTES HERE AND I SEE THEY ADDED A CONDITION REQUIRING THAT THE ON SITE ENERGY EFFICIENCY FEATURES DESCRIBED IN THE PACKET ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTED BE PART OF THE APPROVAL YET PULLING IT AND IT'S RIGHT NOW SO WILL HAND HIM OVER TO HIS SIDE THINK THAT ACTUALLY DID MAKE IT INTO THE MINUTES AND A PACKET MUCH BUT MARIUS SAYS THAT THE SEVEN AT BATS THE MAP YET THE CASE WE DON'T NEED TO ADD THAT THE OTHER BUSHEL OF THE NON ENERGY PIECE SUIT MASS AND SCALE WHO ELSE TO ASK HIM TO FEEL WHO'S GOT A LITTLE ROOM ON NATIONAL SCALE WHO HAS A PROPOSAL TO

[366:01] SOAP VARIOUS WAYS TO BREAK UP YOU KNOW BIG ON BULKY BUILDINGS INCLUDE ARTICULATION INCLUDES SETBACKS AND SO ON AND SO I MEAN THAT'S MY CONCERN MOSTLY IS THE MASS AND SCALE AND SO I DON'T WANT TO APPEAR AND TALK ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS BUT YOU KNOW I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT A CONDITION THERE THAT THE APPLE CAMP FORK WITH A DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO REDUCE THE BULK OF CERTAIN AREAS IN MY AREAS THAT I WOULD LOOK AT WOULD BE BUILDING A FACING TO MAPLETON AND THEN THE FOUR COTTAGES THAT ARE ON THE UPPER PART COTTAGES WHATEVER DUPLEX IS ALL THE DUPLEX IS I THINK SENDING THEM TO THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD IS A PRETTY SMALL FOR THE TWO DAVIDS THAT SUFFICIENTLY SPECIFIC YES THAT WITH A SPECIFIC CONCERN THAT WE WANT THEM TO RECONSIDER AGAIN WAYS TO REDUCE THE APPARENT ALL MASS

[367:01] AND SCALE OF BUILDING A ON THE MAPLES INSIDE AND THE FOUR COTTAGES FOR DUPLEX IS PEOPLE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. CONSIDER THAT A FRIENDLY MEMBER. YES IF YOU'RE OKAY WORKS ANYTHING ELSE HE HERE ON THE MOTION AND THE SECOND ANY MORE DISCUSSION TO READ COME TO CONCLUSION ON THE ENERGY FUTURES ROSE HUES CAN. YUP IT'S ADDING A CONDITION REQUIRING THAT ON SITE ENERGY EFFICIENCY FEATURES DESCRIBED IN THE PACKAGE ACTUALLY BE CONSTRUCTED TO BE PART OF THE PROOF WAS IN TEARS INTO THOSE INCLUDE THE SOLAR PANELS THEY WEREN'T TEST SUBJECT TO THEM BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS REPRESENTED IN THE APPLICANT'S PLANS FOR A

[368:01] TOWEL JUST YET. IT'S NOT JUST ENERGY EFFICIENCY BUT THE ENERGY GENERATION PICTURES ARE A COUPLE OTHERS THAT PLANNING BOARD HAD RECOMMENDED IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CONSIDER FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE PROJECT MEET CURRENT CITY OF BOULDER ENERGY COATS BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE OCCURRED PRIOR TO THIS ADOPTION AND THEN THE ECO PASSES FOR EMPLOYEES BE EXTENDED FROM THREE TO FIVE YEARS. COS OF THE CIA AND THE PLANNING BOARD'S CONDITION ALSO MADE REFERENCE TO THE SOLAR PANEL SHOWN ON SHEEP A DASH FOUR POINT ONE FIVE WHILE I'LL ADD TO MY MY MOTION THE THOSE TWO AMENDMENTS BY THE PLANNING BOARD OR THE SAID MEETING CURRENT CITY ENERGY CODES AND HE COULD PASS REQUIREMENTS BE EXTENDED FROM THREE TO FIVE YEARS THEY SAY DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SOLAR PANELS. YES YES YES THE GREAT ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO

[369:02] THAT AS I'M LOOKING HERE AT THE SITE PLAN. ADD TO BULK AND MASS RE VISITATION BY THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD THAT THE BUILDINGS WHEN YOU COMPARE THE BUILDINGS ON THE EASTSIDE TWO F AND G ARE CONSIDERABLY BOOK HERE AND IF THEY COULD THEY COULD BE REDUCED BY TWENTY PERCENT OF THE FOOTPRINT OR MADE YA STOOD OUT THERE. SOO I DID TO ME THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE INTERNAL TO THE SITE LIKE THEY'RE PART OF THAT CAMPUS FEEL THEY DON'T FACE PUBLICLY AND IN ANY WAY AND I SAID I WOULD NOT EXCEPT AS A FRIENDLY WE COULD WORK IT THROUGH THE MOTIONS BUT THE OTHER THOUGHTS AND MARRIED YOU NEVER GAIN YET

[370:03] MORE PAGE TO LOOK AT IT I DON'T THINK THERE WAS OF THE NET FOR THE ONE THING I'D WORRY ABOUT LOSING UNITS. I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD DO THESE UNITS I THINK YOU CAN DO IT BY SIZE REDUCTION OF THREE UNITS WITHIN THE BUILDING AND THAT WE COULD PUT THAT IN AS PART OF THE CONDITION THROUGH THE UNIT LOST A SIZE REDUCTION TO REDUCE THE BOOK OF MAPS AGAIN BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO LIMITATION ON THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE STONE YOU CAN START TO REALLY BOOK THINGS UP AND I THINK THAT'S PARTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN YEARS THAT A NINE O SEVEN THE BUILDING BEING A NIGHT THEY SAY THEY FIND A DOSE OF

[371:13] THE UH THE UH SO MANY THINGS ARE SOLVED BY PLANTING TREES I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND AT THE NINE FROM PAGE NINETY SEVEN NINETY SEVEN TO THIRTY EIGHT. IT'S A SCHOOL THE MORE THE CASE. I MEAN TO BE EXCEPT THAT WE'RE SENDING IT TO DAD I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT IT IS FAIRLY BULKY THEY'VE ARTICULATED IT SOMEWHAT CLEARLY TRYING TO BREAK UP THE VERY LONG WILLING TO SAY CURIOSITY WERE SENDING IT TO THEM TO DO IT

[372:00] THEY CAN. WELL WE'RE GIVING THEM SPECIFIC AND I KNOW BUT A MID TERM AND THUS SUGGESTS SOMETHING IN IT WE BIND ME OR IT'LL BE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WORK. TYPICALLY THE SO FIRST OF ALL GAP IS NOT A QUASI JUDICIAL BOARD SO THEY CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS THEY CAN ONLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THE WAY THE PROCESS TYPICALLY WORKS IS THAT STAFF THE APPLICANT WILL START TO PREPARE MATERIALS THEY WILL TAKE IT TO DAB DAB WILL BE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN IT'S USUALLY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR THAT IMPLEMENTS THE VISION OF DAB THROUGH THE PARTY DIRECTORS ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY THAT'S THAT'S HOW IT TYPICALLY WORKS JAM GET THE SENSE OF WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR WITH THE ARM BOLT ON MAPLE TURN THE BOOK

[373:00] AND THE DUPLEX IS AND THEN THERE'S DISCUSSION OF THE BED MASS OF THE BUILDING ALONG THE GREEN. YES THEY DO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE B BUILDING STRAIGHT GUY RIGHT ON THE BUILDINGS ALONG THE GREEN SO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION BECAUSE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS THAT COMMISSION YET OK SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ADD THAT TO BE BUILDINGS WHICH I THINK IT'S ONE AND TWO BUILDINGS TO BE ONE OF THE TWO TO REDUCE THE BULK AND MASS AND SCALE FROM ONE TO SECOND. NEED IT WITHOUT THE VET WITHOUT LOSING UNIT ABOUT WITHOUT LOSING UNITS BY TWENTY PERCENT WHO CAN SEW LATELY ABOUT A TWENTY PERCENT OR SEND IT TO DAB IN THE MORE COMMON. I'M LOOKING AT AT FOOTPRINT REDUCTION. SO YES

[374:05] IT'S VERY SPECIFIC IT REDUCES THE FLEXIBILITY I THINK THE WAY WELL THAT'S THAT'S A WEEK AND WE CAN TRADE TWENTY PERCENT THAT SAY AT LEAST WE CAN DO A RANGE ACTUALLY THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN SAYING IT TO DIVINE DESIGN DEBATE REPORT ITS SO SAY IT AGAIN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING OKAY TO MAKE WITHOUT REDUCING IT WITHOUT REDUCING UNITS TO ASK THE DESIGN ADVISORY BOARD TO REDUCE THE MASS BULK AND SCALE OF BUILDINGS BE ONE AND B TO TAKE AWAY A PERCENTAGE SO YOU DIDN'T GET A PERCENTAGE OF OUR PERCENTAGE TO THE CABIN JUST SENDS DAB WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO REDUCE THE BOOK MASSIVE SCALE AND

[375:03] THOSE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE U SICKENING IT SEEM THEY HAVE A QUESTION AND THAT IS FUN TT DAY OF THE HOSTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS WORLD. THEIR RECOMMENDATION COME BACK TO US OR JAM. YES IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. SO WE DON'T GET A SIGHT WE DON'T HAVE A VIEW OF IT. NO INNER UP IT WOULD JUST BE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND AS I EXPLAINED EARLIER THE MORE SPECIFICITY THAT YOU PROVIDE MORE GUIDANCE THAT THAT GIVES RIGHT AND SUBSEQUENT DECISION MAKERS BREAK INTO MY ONLY ISSUE WITH THIS IS THAT IF IT ONLY REDUCED BY ONE PERCENT THEY WILL HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT BUT IT'S NOT REALLY EFFECTIVELY REDUCE THE BULK MASS OR SCALING WELL AND I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT WAS

[376:02] REDUCED A PARENT YOU'RE SAYING NO TO REDUCE. O TRYING TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE WELL I'M OPEN TO IDEAS HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS. I THINK IT'S THE APPARENT BOOK THAT IS THE ISSUE RATE AND SO I MEAN THAT'S THE REASON SO ADD THAT WERE AT THE MODIFY OR APPARENT RACE SO THEN IT BECOMES A DESIGN ISSUE. OK SO THEN ALL WE'VE REALLY DONE THIS SAID BUILDING A BUILDING'S FATE OR THE WAY I'M ABLE TO DETECT ONLY BE ONE TO BE TOO LONG THE GREEN AND FOUR DUPLEX IS DABBLE TAKE A LOOK AT REDUCING BULK AND SCALE THE REALM AND BACKS OF THOSE BUILDINGS AND JIM WILL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY DECIDED AND SEE IF IT'S YOU KNOW WHERE HE HEARD OUR DISCUSSION MEANING AN END IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK WE WON YOU GO BACK TO DAD SAID

[377:03] IT WORKS HOUSES WORK. HOW DOES THE PROCESS WORK DOESN'T LIKE WHAT THE WE DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'VE DONE THE I MEAN IF YOU IF YOU DON'T GIVE A CANE OVERSIGHT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. GREAT JUST GREAT WITH THE SNOW FOR THE DOUGH ONCE IT GOES INTO A CONDITION OF APPROVAL GETS PUT INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROBLEM. SO ITS STAFF IMPLEMENT RIGHT WILL BE ATTEMPTING TO IMPLEMENT WHAT IT CONSIDERS THE WILL OF COUNCIL AND LIKE I SAID THE MORE SPECIFICITY YOU GIVE THESE YEARS THAT YOU MAKE THAT FOR THE STAFF SO YOU KNOW ME AND THE LOBOS THE STAFF WILL SUMMARIZE THIS DISCUSSION FOR GAB THEY MIGHT EVEN SHARE WITH THEM HAVE THE CLUTCH AND THE PILL SO I WILL AND AND AND IT WILL BE DAPPER ASSISTING THE PLAN DIRECTOR THERE SAID DIFFERENCE BETWEEN APPARENT

[378:03] AND ACTUAL. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE YES. OK SO I WILL REMOVE THE WORD APPARENT AND I WANT TO ADD IN BETWEEN TEN AND TWENTY PERCENT AND PREFERABLY TOWARDS THE HIGHER AND GET THAT KEEPING THE NO REDUCTION IN UNIT AND THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT FOR ME IS SAY THEY DID AND JUST TOOK OFF THE BACK AND IT WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. I MEAN IT WOULD TRICKLE SO THE APPARENT AND AMERICA WILL LEAD TO THE TSUNAMI AND WHAT WILL YE MOTOR INTO HERE AND THE APPARENT AND BETWEEN TEN WERE TRYING TO SAY OK BUT IT SURE WAS SOLVING WHAT YOU WANT A SOUL. I MEAN AND IT'S WITHIN THE SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR IT HERE OR THERE EARLY. I KNOW BUT THE PARENT GETS AT

[379:01] THE ISSUE OF COMPATIBILITY PROBLEM I'LL JUST NOTE THAT THIS BUILDING IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE REALM PARTICULARLY THE WORLD'S FIRST TO BE ABLE TO WALK THERE WERE SO THE LAST SUPPOSEDLY THE QUASI GROUND HEAVING JUST ONE COMMENT THAT THIS BUILDING IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT IN HOLDING GRADE AND CREATING THAT THAT DREAM OF MAKING A PERCENTAGE JUDGMENT WE CAN LIVE WITH A PARENT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN LIVE WITH THE TEN TO TWENTY PERCENT JUST FLAT OUT REDUCTION BECAUSE THAT IS A SLOPED AREA GOING DOWNSTAIRS SAYING WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A FLAT SCREEN THERE. SO EITHER GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT MANNER RETAINING WALLS IN PLACE OF A BUILDING BUT WE CAN MAKE THE BUILDING LOOK GOOD AND ITS INTERNAL WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK NICE BUT FREE SELVES THAT HAVE START CUTTING FOOTPRINTS OF THOSE GOING TO THE STRENGTH TRAINING WAS HOW MANY BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE ARE BEING USED AS RETAINING

[380:01] WAS THE MAJOR ONES ARE WELL THE SECOND STORY OF THE COTTAGES BUT SAM SAYS WE KNOW WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH THAT ARM BUT THOSE FOUR BUILDINGS ON BOTH SIDES ARE FRAMING THE VILLAGE BEING AND USING IT TO ABSORB RATE PRIMARILY A HIT. SO B ONE B TO F AND G CRACKED SO I GUESS I HAVE IS WILL WE BRING EVERYBODY ALONG IF WE DO A PARENT WITHOUT A PERCENTAGE AT WHICH GETS THAT COMPATIBLE NOT TALKING WHICH GETS AT THE NEED TO BE RUDE I JUST I KNOW I'M GESTURING AT YOU AND THE COUNCIL WHICH GETS AT THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION IF WE JUST ADDED TO THE APPARENT THEM WERE ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE ARM AND ADDED TO THE LIST. I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET US SOMEWHERE MAYBE ALL TOGETHER

[381:02] IT CAN STAND IF WE IF WE TRUST HIM I TRY MEAN I KNOW I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T KNOW I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO WE'RE TRUSTING HIM TO DO WHAT WE'RE ASKING SO DESIGN AND THAT'S WHY YES BUT THAT STILL GOES BACK TO GYM SO TOO I TRUST HIM I DON'T PRESSURE US TO BE LITTLE TO NO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND WERE DONE THERE WE TURNED ON IT WITH THIS THE LAST CONDITION ON SITE REVIEW THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO OFFER WE STILL HAVE USE FOR YOU YA KNOW. OK SO I'M JUST CHECKING. OH OKAY SO THIS IS THE REVIEW. SO YES THIS IS THE LAST ONE ON SITE MEDIA BUT I MEAN THE SHEER EMOTION BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT'S OKAY OUR SOUTH AREA ITS TICKET TO VOTE WITH IT WITH THE APPARENT AND THAT BETWEEN TEN TWENTY PERCENT AND SEE WHERE WE GET AND THEN AND

[382:01] THEN IF NOT ALL MODIFIED OR JUST EXCEPTION OF A PERCENTAGE PERSONALLY BUT WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT AND I'M SURE OF THE DENVER CENTER PARENT KNOW WE VOTE ON THE MOTION AND IF IT IS SAY THE MOTION AGAIN. OK WITHOUT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS ADDRESS TO SEND TO SEND THE BUILDINGS THE ONE AND B CAME TO DAB TO REDUCE THE BULK MASS AND SCALE THE APPARENT AND AND BY TEN BETWEEN TEN AND TWENTY PERCENT PREFERABLY HIGHER BUILDINGS BE ONE OF THE TWO OK SO I DRAFTED IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BUT I THINK IT CATCHES ALL OF THE IDEAS SO THIS WOULD JUST GO WITH DARKER DARKER FINAL ARCHITECTURAL PLANS WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THE DEED AT MATERIAL SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPEATED BUT I HAVE WITHOUT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS THE APPLICANT CHOPRA SUBMIT

[383:00] PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE APPROVED ARCHITECTURAL PLANS THAT REDUCE THE APPARENT BOWL BOWL AND MASS OF THE STRUCTURE LOCATED AT BUILDINGS BE ONE AND B TWO AND REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING BY TEN TO TWENTY PERCENT AND OF COURSE THERE'S THE QUESTION OF WHY DIDN'T I WOULD ASSUME ITS FLOOR AREA UM FOOTPRINT WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE AS FLY AIR HERE IN FOR YOU IN JUST TO BE CLEAR YOU KNOW SO A NEW FOOTPRINT THAT THAT'S EVERY FLOOR AND JUST TO BE CLEARED SO MUCH MORE STRICT IMPACT OF ITS OWN IN THE FOOTPRINT BECAUSE IF YOU DO TWENTY PERCENT OF THE AREA OF THE FOOTPRINT THAT'S CHOPPING I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THEIR UNIT SIZES HERE BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE REST OF THE FUNCTION OF THE BUILDING

[384:00] ANYWAY I MEAN IF THEY COULD DO IT BY TAKING OFF HALF A FLOOR THERE WOULD BE ONE THING BUT THEY'RE GOING AFTER SHRINK THE ANYWAY I'M JUST WELL WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DESIGN IT HERE SO I KNOW THAT'S WHY OK SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF VISION AND FOUR. OKAY OKAY SO I WILL REMOVE THE TEN AND TWENTY PERCENT PART AND JUST SAY A PARENT TO JUST SAY PARENT OKAY TO TAKE EVERYONE'S SUPPORT. MARK THEM OK SO THIS IS THE FRIENDLY THAT YOU CAN MAKE AS FRIENDLY OK SO WE BASICALLY ADDED BUILDING B ONE B TWO TO THAT AREA THING. OK FOLKS WE HAVE A MOTION ON SITE REVIEW WITH THE CONDITIONS ABOUT THE CONSERVATION AREAS A NO BUILD ZONE BITE PAID CONNECTION ON THE ARTY AT THE TRAIL ACCESS EASIER TO MAP AND THEN SENDING TO DAB THE PARABLE MASSIVE SCALE BUILDING A BUILDING BE ONE OF THE TWO AND FOUR TWO BOXES

[385:00] REQUIRING ON SITE RENEWABLE DISCUSSING THE PLAN IN THE ECO PASSES AND PARKING AREAS REPORTS. OK GET THE CONNECTOR. OK OK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF READING ABOUT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. WHY YOU VOTED. DON'T LEAVE IT TO ALL OF THE SEC REVIEW THERE'S SEARS SITE INCLUDE THEIR SHOES IN ONE OF THE VOTE ANYTIME WE HAVE TO FORM IS SOWING GET SOMETHING DONE WELL I WOULD LIKE THE CHANCE TO SAY ONE THING BEFORE WE VOTE SO THE ISSUE OF THE NON PROFIT ON CAUSES ME GREAT DEAL OF UNHAPPINESS BECAUSE I WISH THAT OUR LAND USE CODE WAS MORE CLEAR ON THIS BECAUSE IT SAYS CLEARLY ONE THING BUT THEN ZONING SAYS SOMETHING ELSE RATHER THAN WHAT OUR LAND USE

[386:00] DESIGNATIONS SAYS IS A GOOD PROJECT SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT BUT THE DEEP CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THIS ABIDING UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE LAND USE CODE IN THE COMP PLAN IS VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND AND SO WE HAVE A LEGAL INTERPRETATION THAT SAYS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT BUT IT'S NOT A PLAIN READING AND SO WE HAVE TO FIX IT. THESE KINDS OF THINGS WHICH ARE BROKE AND NEED TO BE FIXED AND SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS BUT I WILL SAY THAT THAT CONCERN I REQUIRED LEGAL INTERPRETATION THAT WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THIS BECAUSE THE NON PROFIT VERSUS PROFIT ON HAS AN AREA OF DEEP CONCERN AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN NOTE THAT GET THAT FIXED IT ON THE SAME GREAT PEOPLE PEOPLE OK WITH VOTING ON THIS PART OF IT I JUST TRY

[387:02] TO MOVE THROUGH THIS AND FINISH THIS AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE WERE REARED WITH THE OTHER PART OF IOS IF WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ALL AND THEN VOTED BECAUSE I THINK WE SHOULD GO TO A NEW SPEAKER REDO SITE. IT'S JUST MY TAKE IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A USE YOU SAY OK WELL WE HAVE THE MEMORIES TOGETHER THIS PART READY TO GO. LET'S MAKE A MOTION AND USE THE LONG DISCUSSION OF NECK INTO THIS ONE AS WELL SO I MOVED HERE WE EXCEPT THE WOULD BE JUST AS TO NEED SOME PROMOTIONS SONG CONGREGATE CARE AND PARKING AND WAIT AND CONGREGATE AT SEVEN ONE OF THE SEPARATE MOTIONS BUT THE SO SO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE USE REVIEW FOR

[388:00] BOTH CONGREGATE CARE USE AND PARKING AS A PRINCIPAL USE THE ZONING DISTRICT. OH YOU ARE TWENTY SEVENTEEN YEARS IT WAS HERE TO SEVEN K AND THIS IS THE ONE WHERE YOU WOULD ADDRESS THE REUSE OF PARKING SPACES IN THE DAY IN THIS USE REVIEW AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN TERMS OF JUST A CONVERSATION THAT I LISTEN TO FROM YOU ALL THAT IN CONDITION ONE HE WOULD ADD TO THAT IT'S THAT STARTS WITH THE APPLICANT SHALL OPERATE THE BUSINESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN DEFEATED MAY SEVENTH TWO THOUSAND NINETEEN CHANCES NINETEEN EIGHTEEN WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE STATUS OF DISPOSITION WHAT THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT ALLOWS THE COMFORT OF SPARK PARKING SPACES THAT ARE NO LONGER NESS NEEDED TO SERVE BUT USED TO BE PUT TO OTHER DIRECT OR INDIRECT USES INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION PARKING FOR OTHER USES BATTERY STORAGE STORAGE OR OTHER USES THAT

[389:01] THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES CAN WE JUST SAY AND PARKING FOR OTHER USES COLOR SPECIFICALLY OPEN SPACE ACCESS PARKING AND CHURCH PARKING LOT AND OUT A USE OTHER NATALIE IS THAT OKAY WITH THAT CHANGE WILL USE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE MOTION IF I MAKE A SECOND OK CONDITIONS LIKE THIS OR OTHER CONDITIONS FROM THIS ANYBODY HAVE OTHER THOUGHT THIS TO ME WE COULD SPEAK. BUT THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AREN'T SORRY TALKS ABOUT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA NUMBER FIVE THE USE WILL NOT CHANGE THE PREDOMINANT CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA OR THE CHARACTER ESTABLISHED BY ADOPTED DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE PLANS FOR THE AREA AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IT DOES INDEED CHANGE THE PREDOMINANT CHARACTER OF

[390:00] THE AREA. IT HAS AND BY INTENSITY OF USE AND IT IS AND HERE'S ONE WAY IT'S GOING TO ADD AND THIS IS EVEN IF IT COULD JUST MAGICALLY BE DONE IT WOULD CHANGE UM THE IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE PREDOMINANT CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA BUT THE DEMOLITION IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS KIND OF BE HAVE HUGE IMPACTS IN WHAT IS BASICALLY JUST A VERY RELATIVELY SMALL T INTERSECTION THEIR HOME NEIGHBORHOOD AREA THAT'S BEEN ITS CHARACTERISTIC EVEN THOUGH THE HOSPITAL WAS THERE THEY'RE GOING TO HOSPITALS THERE. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN USED AND THEY MOVED FURTHER EAST IS A I SAID EARLIER I'M SURE BECAUSE IT WAS A MUCH MORE CONVENIENT TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION STAFFING ET-CETERA AND THE POPULATION

[391:02] HAS SHIFTED EAST SO THE OTHER THING IS EVENTHOUGH WITH ALL DEFERENCE TO OUR LEGAL GUIDANCE AND CONSISTENCY WITH P ZONING. I DO NOT FIND A NON PROFIT THERE'S THAT ONE ANOMALY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING IN THE WAY THAT I READ THE PART OF THE COMP PLAN AND ZONING AND IT SAYS THAT USEFUL EITHER FOR OR PROVIDED DIRECT SERVICE OR CONVENIENCE TO OR REDUCE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING USES OR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I THINK IT WILL MAGNIFY THE ADVERSE IMPACTS. IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A COMPATIBLE TRANSITION BETWEEN HIGHER INTENSITY AND LOWER INTENSITY AND THAT IT IS IN THIS HOME AGAIN THIS WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A MORE HIGH HAZARD ZONE WITH A VULNERABLE

[392:00] POPULATION. I THINK THE FIRE AND FIRE INTERFACE WHICH IN A VERY DIFFICULT AND I COULDN'T LIKE NEARBY SAID AT THE BEGINNING I WOULD HAVE DIFFICULTY SUPPORTING IT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT GIVEN ALL OF THE OTHER IMPACTS THAT WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH AND WITH CLIMATE DISRUPTION TO GRADE THE GRADIENT THE CAUSE FOR MORE MASS AND BULK BECAUSE OF THAT AND USING THAT TO THE BUILDING ITSELF AS A RETAINING WALLS SPEAKS TO THE PROBABLY NOT VERY CONDUCIVE USE OF THIS PROPERTY FOR THIS KIND OF LARGE DEVELOPMENT. SO I WILL BE THE MVP VOTING NO THE GUY IN YOUR LIFE. SINGER CYNDI BROUGHT THIS UP AND I'M SORRY I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TWO OF PROFITS UP SO I NEED TO ASK. I'M A MAP HERE SHOWS

[393:06] THE INFORMATION ITS COMPARISONS OF CURRENT PCP GEOLOGICAL HAZARD GEOLOGIC HAZARD AND CONSTRAINED AREA MARKED WITH MAPPING CATEGORIES YOU STAND GEOLOGICAL HAZARD MAP SHOWING BASICALLY THAT THIS AREA IS A MAJOR MEANING THE COLOR IS ZONED MAJOR EXTENSIVE PROBLEMS ON THE HIGH RISK FOR GEOLOGICAL HAZARDS AND SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW YET FOR SLOPE STABILITY SO INTO FOR SO YOU KNOW AGAIN PART OF THIS COMES BACK TO THE ISSUES OF MINNETONKA TYSON FOR SAFETY FOR ME AND SO I DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE DESIGN TEAM CAN ADDRESS THIS IDEA I HAVE MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THE PROJECT I THINK YOURS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. I REALLY WISH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE I STILL HAVE SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT EVACUATIONS

[394:02] AND HAZARDOUS TRAIN SO ANYTHING YOU COULD DO TO EASE MY FEARS WOULD BE REALLY NICE THANK YOU CHARLIE HAGAR SALINGER J MULDER SO THE SITE HAS INITIALLY BEEN STUDIED IN A BORING SUBJECT ARE GOING HERE ON THE TEAM DONE EXTENSIVE STUDIES TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW TO SEE THAT THERE WAS A PROPER WAY TO DESIGN THESE BUILDINGS TO BE TICKLISH TABLE THE CITY AND A FIRST EVER TEAR THROUGH THERE A STEEP SLOPE ORDINANCE IS THERE ANY TIME REBUILDING THIS AREA THERE'S A VERY STRICT AND STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS TO GET THROUGH THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENT PHASE OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS A BUILDING PERMIT FOR IT SO ALL OF THESE SUCH A TENDER CONSIDERATION ARE DRESSED AND I PERSONALLY WORKED ON DOZENS OF PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS IN IN THESE

[395:02] DIFFERENT ZONES AND IT IS BECAUSE THE CITY HASN'T ADDRESSED IT HEAD ON WITH THE STEEP SLOPES AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN TAKING CARE OF ON THE OKAY UH. I MEAN I THINK PERHAPS A LITTLE MORE COLOR WOULD BE USEFUL THAT I SEE IN THE DRAWING PACKAGE THAT WE HAD SOME BORING PLANS AND SOME SAMPLING PLANS AND CAN ANYONE SPEAK TO THOSE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS A SET OF EXACTLY THE REASONS THE NEARBY BROUGHT UP I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PLAN THAT HAD BEEN PRESENTED IN THIS PACKAGE THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS OWES TO BE ASSESSED AND THEN THE FOUNDATIONS AND PILINGS WILL BE THERE WAS THERE'S A FULL GEO TECH SUPPORT THOSE PROVIDED IN THE PACKAGE AND BASING THEIR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE SITE IN THE STRUCTURES WOULD BE MORE SOUND AND A LOT OF AREAS BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY FROM THE BORING SAMPLES TO BEDROCK AND WE'D

[396:02] ACTUALLY BE AIRING THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE STRUCTURES INTO BEDROCK NOW IS THE JUST OF THE ATTACKER CAN YOU GIVE US A CITATION FOR FACTS AND NOT IN HERE SOMEWHERE I'M SORRY TO DO THAT. IT'S A FULL GEO TECH REPORTERS AND IT'S AND IT'S LIKE APPENDIX YEAR AFTER SOMETHING LIKE THAT. E ATTACHMENT HE AND PAIGE WHAT TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE OF THE CAR ONE OF THE PACKET THAT SUM TO YOU DOING TO EARN SIXTY ODD PAGES LONG. THAT'S WHAT IT CALLED FOR THE NIGER TAKEN DINNER SO I HAVE TO DEFER TO THEIR FINDINGS. IN THE SO WE ARE USE IT TO

[397:03] EIGHTY FIVE HUMP YET ANOTHER PACKET OF TEN TWENTY FIVE OF TEN TWENTY FIVE TO THE PLAYERS HAVE YOU SEEN THE US. THAT'S THE WARM THE SEA IS THE BEST PAID ON PAGE NINETY ONE TALKS ABOUT THE BORING STUFF ABOUT THIS TODAY WAS TOLD THAT WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT SO JUST ME I KNOW OUR WILD MAN TEAM SPOKE EARLIER TO EVACUATIONS OR NOT BUT WE'RE ADDRESSING ISSUES WITH EVACUATION AND SHELTERING IN PLACE AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS OR DOES NOT HAPPEN. I MEAN I READ YOUR GUYS IS PLANNED WITH IN THE PACKET ON THE REST EVACUATIONS BUT HE YOU KNOW IN SOME CASES IF YOU'RE FORTY TWO BEDS ARE FILM THEY DO

[398:00] HAVE TO BE EVACUATED. YOU'RE LOOKING AT JUST FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH SOME MOVING PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN USE OF ALL FOUR LIMBS YOU'RE LOOKING AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY ONE AMBULANCE PER PERSON SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE AN EVACUATION PLAN TO REMOVE FORTY EIGHT FORTY TWO THAT'S CORRECT IT'S JUST AS I BELIEVE NUMBER SIXTEEN IN THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN AND IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT FIRE AFTER HER LAST AIRING WE DID CONTACT RICK CAME AND TALKED TO THREE KILLS AND NOW ITS RESEARCH ON AS HIS RESUME IS IN CHARGE OF FIVE STATES FOR THE U S FOREST SERVICE TWENTY TWO MILLION ACRES OF NATIONAL FOREST AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR ANYTHING FROM ANNIE'S IS AVAILABLE AS WELL SO YEAH I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IF WE NEEDED

[399:00] MULTIPLE AMBULANCES A VERY STRESSFUL SITUATION HOW WORKING TO BE. I THINK GARY'S JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HE DEALS WITH THIS NOW WITH HIS LICENSE AND IS SET TO BE FOR ANSWERS WHEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF DOES THIS NOT FALL UNDER THE CRITICAL FACILITIES ORDINANCE AND WOULD NEED A NEW EMERGENCY MANAGER IT'S NOT A CRITICAL FACILITY BELIEVE IT IS THEY DO REQUIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLANS THE EVENING ESPECIALLY MORNING KELLY. YES THIS IS A CRITICAL FACILITY ARE A PAIN MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS AND MORE CHOIR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PLAN TO PILOT VERY SIMILAR TO THE PLAY AREA REQUIRED FOR STATE LICENSING FOR THIS FACILITY THINKING GREAT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO GIVE THE OKAY SO WE ON. WE HAD A MOTION WITH HIS EVER

[400:00] HAVING PEOPLE SPEAK TO IT WHO ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION AT HAND IS THIS FOR THOSE WHO USE REVIEW THEM ALL SPEAK TO IT CAME FROM. I WOULD AGREE WITH CINDY AND DOES CHANGE THE CHARACTER AND I THINK THAT THIS RISE AGAIN STARTING DIDN'T REALLY START WITH WHAT WAS THERE IT STARTED WITH THE WITH THE PROPOSAL IS SET IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE CHARACTER SO I THINK FROM FROM THE GET GO. IT WASN'T CONSIDERED IN A WAVE THAT TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION SO I WILL BE VOTING NO AND THEY'LL SWIM TO SPEAK TO. JUST KNOW JUST A POLITE DISAGREEMENT THAT I THINK THAT THE LANGUAGE FOR SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT CHANGING THE PREDOMINANT

[401:02] CHARACTER VARIOUS I THINK WELL THIS IS A DIFFERENT FACILITY FROM THE EXISTING HOSPITAL. I DON'T THINK IT'S A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE CHARACTER OF THE USE THAT SPEND THEIR LAST FEW DECADES IN TERMS OF CHANGE IN CHARACTER THE QUESTION IS WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS USED AND I THINK THAT HOSPITAL STOPPED ABOUT NINETEEN EIGHTY NINE AND SO IT REALLY HASN'T BEEN FUNCTIONING AS II USED AS A HOSPITAL OR IN THIS INTENSITY SO DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR THEIR I MEAN THE YOU KNOW I MEAN THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME RIGHT. AND SO THIS USE THIS IN TENT HOSPITAL USES NOT THERE ANYMORE AND IT'S BEEN ALMOST THIRTY YEARS SENT ITS

[402:01] BEEN THERE SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO WE TREAT THAT WELL I I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE CRITERIA DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS WHAT THE EXISTING USES AND HOW THE PROPOSED USE IS GOING TO CHANGE IT OR NOT IT SPEAKS TO A NUMBER OF CRITERIA THAT INCLUDE PROVIDING A CONVENIENCE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S COMPATIBILITY WITH A NEIGHBOR AND I THINK WE'VE ALL SPOKEN PRETTY HEARD YOU SPEAK PRETTY ELOQUENTLY ABOUT WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT DOES OR DOESN'T OR ISN'T COMPATIBLE IN THE CONTEXT BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY SPEAK TO THE CHANGE OF USE ONLY OCCURS IF SOMETHING'S BEEN CLOSED THAT HAS A USE REVIEW ON IT FOR A YEAR YOU HAVE TO GET A NEW USE REVIEW SO IT DOESN'T REALLY SPEAK TO ME WHO WE'RE TALKING THIRTY USE THEM SO THAT'S THAT'S THE BIG CHANGE AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE

[403:01] MOVED IN THERE SINCE THEN AND HAVE LIVED THERE AND AND AND BEEN USE TO SPECIFIC KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER FOR TWENTY NINE YEARS. MAYBE THAT THE APPLICANT COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE BILL BEEN USED OR NOT I I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN CERTAIN FUNCTIONS WITHIN THE BUILDING BUT NO THERE HAVE BEEN NICE TO GO TO PT UP THERE THIS PUTS THEIR UNION. I'VE ONLY LIVED IN TOWN TWENTY TWO YEARS. I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THIS IS A WALL TO SAY IS A DIFFICULT ISSUE AND CHANGE IS VERY HARD ON I WILL SAY THIS IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED WITH SOMETHING HE AND THE LAST TIME WE PROTESTED SOMETHING REALLY HARD WE ENDED UP WITH MC MANSIONS I THINK THIS IS A BOUT. THIS IS A VALUABLE USE I DO TAKE SOME SOLACE IN THE FACT THAT IT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED FOR

[404:00] MEDICAL PURPOSES FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS SO IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THAT HIS STORK THAT CAN EASILY FEELS APPROPRIATE. MOM I ALSO THINK THAT HAVING SENIORS LIVE THERE. SORRY OLDER WORK ON OLDER ADULTS IS GOING TO BE LESS IMPACTFUL THAN A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE AND IT IS A GROWING NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY SO YES YOU KNOW I I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES WE'RE FACING HERE WITH THIS BLESSING THAT THIS ISSUE BUT I THINK ON BALANCE AND OUT AND SUPPORTED FOR THOSE REASONS. SO ANYBODY ELSE WANNA SPEAK TO THIS ONE. YEAH I MEAN I WILL UM I'M PRETTY MUCH FOR YOUR SAND THAT THE TRUE DOES IT STOP BEING USED AS A HOSPITAL IN FOR A LONG TIME WAS USED AS A REHAB CENTER AND HAS BEEN QUESTIONED FOR A WHILE AND THERE'S NO DOUBT BUT IT HAS BEEN PRETTY CRESCENT BUT I

[405:01] THINK WHAT OUR JOB IS HERE'S TO BALANCE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THE BROADER COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND SO I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IMPACTS WILL BE I THINK WE'RE TRIED TO WRESTLE WITH PAUL AND TO WRESTLE WITH THE SIZE OF YOU KNOW VERY LARGE COTTAGES AND TO TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE LOCAL PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THE AMENITIES THAT ARE THERE INCLUDING THE ABILITY TO GET THROUGH THE SITE OF THE TRAILS AND TOM PICNIC ON THE LAWN OR WHATEVER SO THERE DOES HAVE TO BE A BALANCE STRUCK AND I BELIEVE THAT HE YOU KNOW THE APPLICANT HAS COME A LONG WAY. HE AND WORKING ON THE AFFORDABILITY ON SITE. I MEAN ONE OF THE KEY TURNS FOR ME WAS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A MIXTURE OF ECONOMIC LEVELS ON THE SITE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS COME FORWARD WITH AS WELL

[406:03] AS THROUGH OFF SITE BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR HAVING THAT MIX IS IMPORTANT TO ME AS FAR AS BOTH THE DIVERSITY AND THE SOCIAL JUSTICE OF HAVING THOSE AMENITIES AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE SAME INCOME LEVEL AS MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT SIDE SO IT IS CHALLENGING BUT AS YOU SAY IS AND YOU TAKE COMFORT IN THE FACT THAT SPAN THE HOSPITAL YEAH FOR A HUNDRED YEARS THAT FUNCTION IS NEEDED THAT KIND OF CARING IS NEEDED AND FORTY MEDICARE BEDS ARE ALSO A BIG BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY SO IT TAKES SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF FRASIER AND GIVES ANOTHER PLACE FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO GO TO GET CARE AND SO YOU KNOW AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE REALLY WORKS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEEDS OF EVERYONE INVOLVED SO IT'S A TOUGH DECISION BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK

[407:00] ON BALANCE IN THE LONG RUN OVER TIME IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR TO HELP MORE PEOPLE THAN IT HURTS. NOW I THAT SAID I WANT TO REITERATE STAFF THAT THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE NEEDS TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY BY RULE YOU KNOW JUST TO REALLY I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME REAL CONTROLS ON THE PACE OF THIS BECAUSE THOSE EIGHTEEN WHEELERS RUMBLING DOWN WHATEVER STREETS THAT ARE RUMBLING DOWN ARE GOING TO DAMAGE THE STREETS GOING TO WAKE PEOPLE UP IN A SPEAR THE NASTY DIESEL FUMES AND SO I REALLY THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THIS BUT IF WE LOOK PAST THAT DESTRUCTIVE PHASE I THINK IN THE LONG RUN THIS WILL BE BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY SO FOR THAT REASON. ON BALANCE THAT'S FORMED AN O AND IMUS TO SAID THANKS FOR BRINGING UP THE AFFORDABILITY PEACE. I THINK THAT'S HUGE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT GETTING CHANGED IN THE WEEK

[408:00] SO WE CAN KEEP MOVING. WE HAVE SO I'M JUST SINCE WORDS SUMMING UP I JUST HAVE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS COME BUT JUST I WANT TO GROOVE PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THE SIMMONS ENDS AND SAID THAT JUST HIGHLIGHTS HOW THE PROJECT I THINK HAS DEFINITELY IMPROVED SIGNIFICANTLY IT'S BEEN TERRIFIC FOR MAYBE FIVE SITE RECEIVE MEDALS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER AND THE NEIGHBORS WORKING TOGETHER TO REALLY IMPROVE THE PLAN ALSO HIGHLIGHTING THE ACCESS THROUGH THE SITE THE DAYTIME ACCESS I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF HISTORY AND USE THAT IS PRESERVED AND APPRECIATE THE PARKING SPACES FOR ON THE WEEKENDS AS WELL AS A NICE USE THING AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID BEFORE THAT JUST THAT CRITICAL NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE SENIOR HOUSING WE NEED A LOT OF IT THE SILVER TSUNAMI IS COMING AND SO THIS IMPORTANT FUNCTION ALSO RE HIGHLIGHTING THOSE MEDICARE BEDS IN THE MEMORY CARE UNIT SOMETHING WE NEED THESE SERVICES ON ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF HUMAN NEEDS FOR THESE OLDER ADULT

[409:00] POPULATIONS ARE THE REASONS THAT I'LL BE SPORTING PROTECT THE GOOD. I'M REALLY TORN. I WILL HAVE TO SAY I REALLY LIKE THE PROJECT I THINK IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL IDEA I THINK OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS EVERYTHING THAT CNN HAS SPOKEN TO. I PERSONALLY CAN'T GET OVER THE SAFETY ISSUE I MEAN I JUST EVEN LOOKING AT THE COLORADO REVISED STATUTE TWENTY FOUR TEST ENDED WHEN A TEAM WITH FOURTEEN POINTS AND WE PUTTING PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY AND I THINK WE'RE DOING THAT AND WE CAN BE HELD PERSONALLY PERSONALLY LIABLE FOR THAT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO DO UM I THINK WE'RE CREATING KIND OF ANOTHER FRASIER MEADOWS ISSUE INSTEAD OF WITH ITS WITH FIRE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS PROJECT DONE AT THE BALL SOME IN THE HOSPITAL SITE I THINK IT'S FLAT LAND THAT WOULD BE SAFER FOR SENIOR CITIZENS OR

[410:01] THE OLDER ADULTS. UM I DON'T KNOW I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED TO SO I AM HONESTLY A LITTLE TWIN OF THE MOMENT OK SO WE HAD THIS WON T GET TO VOTE ON ON THE LAST ONE IS REZONING I CAN DO THE SCAN IT SO I MOVED TO APPROVE ORDINANCE EIGHT TWO SEVEN FIVE REZONING AREAS OF THIS PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL O WANT A CONSISTENT WITH THE BOULDER VALLEY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE A KNOW YOUR TWENTY SEVENTEEN HIS YEARS HERE IS HERE TO EIGHT AND THIS WILL JUST BE INTRODUCING AT FIRST READING THIS INTERESTED IN PURSUING ANY NEED TO DISCUSS THIS I'M STILL HUNG UP ON WHY IT'S NOT THE IT HAS NOT BEEN I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE PAST

[411:02] ACTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN THE SAME AS FOR TRYING TO TUNE INTO. IT'S THE INCONSISTENCY THAT IS BOTHERING ME AND I DON'T THINK IT MAKES THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT A RL ONE OR PEE EXCEPT THAT IN RL ONE YOU CAN DO CONGREGATE CARE IN THE APPLICATION TO DO CONGREGATE CARE SO WE PICKED P BUT I THINK FOR ZONING AND OUR COUNTY AND SHOULD BE STRONGER THAN THAT IN SO I THINK A TREE WAS AND SEE HIM WITH HIS COMMENT ABOUT P THAT NEEDS TO REALLY BE THE GRUESOME HAVE AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO COME AROUND BUT IT SEEMS SEVERAL TIMES SAID IT'S COME UP IN AT LEAST MY TENURE HERE AND IT'S NEVER SATISFACTORY

[412:02] AND I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT ITS IS THAT IT'S PIANO IT'S NOT. AND OF ITS PRIVATE FOR PROFIT. SO I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT CASE I MEAN I THINK IT TO GOOD PROJECT. I APPRECIATE THE ARCHITECTURE THUS THE STEROIDS BUILDINGS COULD BE REDUCED A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW I SHARE MY CONCERN WITH A MIRROR BY THAT. THIS IS PUT A LOT OF THE BUILDINGS ARE ON THE WAY THESE NAFTA AS WELL BUT WAS HIS OWN IN YOU A VERY HIGH HAZARD. UM YOU KNOW WHAT

[413:02] YOU MEAN BY HAZARD PLAN SIDE SLOPE STABILITY THAT HAS REAL SLOPE STABILITY PROBLEMS AND THE FACT THAT SO MANY OF THE BUILDINGS ARE BEING USED TO RETAIN THE WALLS IT MAKES ME OR RETAIN THE SLOPES IT MAKES ME WONDER WOMAN. MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE BUILDING SOME MUCH HERE SO MAYBE IF IT WASN'T SO INTENSE IT MIGHT NOT NEED SO MUCH ATTENTION BUT I DO WISH OUR LAND THE LAND USE PROCESS EASY AND SOME OF THE STUFF MADE MORE SENSE I AM COMFORTED AGAIN BY THE FACT THAT BOULDER VALLEY COM PLAN SAYS AND WERE LINING THE ZONING WITH THAT BUT IT'S CRAZY TO ME HOW THE PLAIN LANGUAGE OF SUMMER STUFF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I

[414:01] AM HONEST AND CAN I MAKE MAY BE EXPRESSED AN INTENTION THAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNSEL OF A DESIRE TO REVISIT TWO THINGS IN ONE OF THEM IS THE DEFINITION OF THE LAND USE THE SAME SPOKE TO EARLIER AND THE OTHER IS THE CHANGING THE O S SO DESIGNATION AT THE NEXT COMP PLAN UPDATE IS THAT BOTH OF THOSE WILL COUNSEL KIND OF THING LEAST DISCUSSING AFTER CHER HIM TO JUST RECORD THEM FOR THE RECORD CAME WE SAID BUT NEEDS TO BE SAID CAN WE VOTE ON ALL THREE LEAD. OK LET'S MOVE ON IS THE REVERSE ORDER IN THE MATTER. OK WE VOTE ON REZONING FIRST ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ON THE MOTION TO REZONE MEASURE AND TO BE LOVED BY ALL THOSE OPPOSED WERE OKAY

[415:02] EASY TO BE REAL COOL. WE'RE EMOTIONAL LEARNING TO USE REVIEW AND THE MOTION INCLUDED APPROVAL OF BOTH THE USE OR ABUSE CORRECT AND ALSO SADLY THIS IS WHERE WE DID THE PARKING AREAS THE CONDITION ABOUT THE PARKING IS BEING REPURPOSED. OK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THEY CAN BUY ALL THOSE OPPOSED WERE OKAY AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE MOTION ON SITE REVIEW WHICH HAD A WHOLE HANDFUL OF CONDITIONS IN WHICH TO REMEMBER WHAT THOSE WERE OK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE SEINE IN RAGE AND OTHERS OPPOSED OR. OK I BELIEVE WERE DONE WITH THAT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE BEFORE WE LEAVE

[416:01] THE DEBRIEF OUR PROCESS I WILL NOT JUST FOREIGNERS ALREADY PLAYED THEIR HOPES ON BUT I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HANGING IN THERE WHO SHOT HIM IN THE ESSAY I'M AMAZED HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE WOW SITTING SO CLOSE IN THE BANK ON UN PROCESS THAT YOU DID THE MEETING VERY WELL I HAD IN I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO ASK THAT IT WAS REALLY HARD TO SIT UP HERE WITH THESE THE PACK IT IN THEN HUGE PAPER AND THEN ALL OF OUR STUFF AND THEN OTHER STUFF SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE COULD BE SO UH I'D I'D BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IT BUT IT WAS SERIOUS THE WIND STARTED THE INNING. ANYWAY IT WAS JUST HARD TO TUNE FOLLOWED

[417:02] THE DISCUSSION AND EVERYBODY'S USING SHE'S USING NOVA RAPTORS I'M USING DIANA TAKE SHEETS USING A PRINT FORM AND WE DON'T GET THE SIZE OF PACKETS VERY OFTEN SO IT TO CHALLENGE BUT IF THERE'S SOME WAY I CAN HELP OR WE CAN JUST TALK ABOUT HOW CAN WE GET IT SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY USER FRIENDLY. THAT WAS THAT WOULD BE MY BIG IS COMMON ABOUT TONIGHT ANYTHING ELSE ON PROCESS PEOPLE CAN EMAIL THE OTHER TIME IT'S LATE. KK DOES MAKE ONE COMMENT THE MORE SO I DID AS THE EVENING WAS ROLLING ALONG. REVIEW THE COVENANT THAT THE APPLICANT PREPARED IS A SIGNED COPY AND I THINK I WILL BE CONFERRING WITH

[418:03] KURT FROM HARPER TOMORROW BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IN OUR STANDARD FORM AND IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ACCEPT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE AND I LIKE BETTER I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE LONGEVITY OF STAFF. YES YES THE BANK AND TOOK A NO PRESSURE AGAIN THANK YOU THANK YOU EVERYBODY THE BOOK THE LAST OF