January 22, 2025 — Boulder Junction Access District Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:02] Any dibs. On leading the meeting. I've got this feeling that Rebecca wants to, but I'm happy to so never, never! My never! My. never my forte. But let's start with procedure procedural items. The 1st motion is approval of the November 2024 meeting minutes. Do we have any comments or corrections? Yes. I believe I need to call role. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Thank you. Okay, so welcome to the Boulder Junction Access district parking and travel demand management joint commissions meeting. We are recording. It is January 20, second, 2025, and I will call roll Ryan cook. Present.

[1:00] Kevin, Knapp. President. Robin Ronan. Present. Rebecca, do Michelle. Present. Stephanie Pike. I don't believe she's present. I will keep an eye out for her. Susan Prand. Present. Jennifer Shriver. Present. Thank you. All right. I will turn the meeting over to chairs, Ronan and Dean Michelle, for procedural items. Thank you. Okay. So now the 1st matter is, we will be discussing the approval of November 2024, meeting minutes. 1st and foremost, are there any corrections or comments that need to be addressed. Rebecca. I have one robin. I had switched my email. And I think there's a problem that I don't actually have the packet for this meeting.

[2:05] Oh, well. that is unfortunate. If you private text me your email, I will go ahead and send you the packet right now. It came on January 16, th at 3, 25 Pm. I can send it to her. I have her email. Even even perfect. Thank you, Sue. I appreciate you for doing that. Do you want to wait until you have the meeting minutes before you either make a motion or vote. I think there's a motion on the table. So And then. I will defer to the team here. So. I move that we approve the November minutes. My second. can I get hands for approval?

[3:00] I. Okay, I'm seeing all unanimous for approving. Do you get the packet, Rebecca? I'm looking for. It hasn't come through yet. Okay, moving on to the election of vice chair for Bjad Parking. Chris is having connectivity issues. So they're still here. But we still do not have a vice chair for Bjad and I know our group is small. But once again, do we have anyone who can or wants to step up into that position they would have to be a parking person. Correct. So yes, I'm sorry at the Bj. Parking Commission. That would have to be Ryan Kevin, Rebecca, or Rob, near Robin. Yeah, Ryan, Rebecca or Kevin.

[4:00] I already have a role on one of them. So. Rebecca's already got one. Ryan or Kevin. I think Kevin said. No, I mean I I kind of would give a similar answer. In the sense that it'd be nice for new newer people to take take that on. But if it's important that we have someone assigned that I'm happy to I guess. To be that. Question. Yeah, I guess this is a question for Chris and the team over there. Given the size and the fact that you and Kevin have definitely been serving what feels like in perpetuity at this point. I'm fine. If we, if we let this go for right now until a later date. I just wanna see if that is allowable. Chris.

[5:08] I think Chris is having connectivity problems. So if it's okay, yes. Oh, sorry about that, Robin. Yeah, we're seeing hopefully, we can get a an answer for you. I think that's okay. We continue to defer it. I'll leave it to Chris Jones to give us that authority. But yeah, I think we're. That's it. I'm okay with deferring it to Chris. I mean Kevin and Ryan have both like gone way above and beyond on this. So I'd love to just recruit some new people and get some new fresh blood. And the the group who who are able to discuss it. if we're okay to defer, or if we want to table that till later, I don't want to stop the Commission recruitment update, which I quite frankly, I think, is probably applicable to this topic. It's yeah. It's not a lot. Yeah. Why don't? Why don't we table that for the time being? Let's let's table that and go on to commission recruitment.

[6:02] Kennedy. Alright. So currently there are no applications. So we are hoping that they will start coming in before the end date of the 31st and we did put out some specific flyers in the area to try to recruit more for that. So hopefully, you know, that works out. But that's kind of where we're at right now. Is Sue. Do you have a comment on that? I guess I have a question since Ryan, me and Kevin are all beyond our term, and it looks like Jennifer's term will expire this year. Then that's the majority of people beyond their term. you know what happens? What happens if we all say, you know, skirt, I gotta do something else and leave. So let me chime in. Sorry I could hear everything, but my connection is lost. So I'm on my phone now, so I might in first, st according to the forming legislation for the Gids. We do need to have a chair and vice chair. So if we don't elect one, then it will defer to whoever was the vice chair before. But I think that was Rebecca can't be both the chair and vice chair, so there'd be some

[7:24] something we need to figure out there. Whoever was vice chair previously, perhaps I don't know. Secondly, we do know. We have some applicants for Bjad Parking and Tdm. That will be in front of Council, as some good candidates so hopeful that we'll be able to fill some seats that have long expired. And yes, hopefully, we do not find ourselves in a position where you guys are so sick of us that you don't want to, that you want to resign from the Commission, and then we have certainly a challenge there to figure out. So I'm hopeful that, come, May, we will have some new commissioners, and folks will get some relief.

[8:14] Thanks, Chris, I mean so. Christ. As far as. Rebecca, I see your hand. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Could we actually be a little bit more specific? On how many applications we have, and whether or not those are publicly listed, yet they used to be publicly listed right. The applications. I might defer to Ellie to see if if she's received anything as our liaison to the city clerk's office. They're the ones that keep a record of everything. I can reach out to John. He had told me on Friday that they didn't have any application. So you're saying that they do is news for me, so I will. I can reach out to John and see if he's got more detailed information about that that we can send out to y'all.

[9:00] Okay? And then the second thing is, you said that there were bejad specific flyers. Can you share an electronic copy of that with us for distribution, and also provide a little bit more detail on on where you've posted those, and whether or not there was like mail outs to addresses in the district. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure folks can provide an email update on recruitment efforts. So also want to point out that the application yet doesn't close till the end of the month, so we won't have the final report from city clerk's office with all the applicants. Until then. Okay, thanks. Yeah, I I just. I wouldn't want to duplicate any efforts. But I also know that sometimes, you know, just on, you know the transportation side, right? That we've tried working with the the property. Managers and communications don't always trickle all the way down to to property owners.

[10:02] Yeah, Ryan, I want to acknowledge your hand. Thanks. I just was. Gonna say, if it's important that we have someone in the vice chair position, I'm happy to be vice chair until we have new commissioners. If that is an acceptable solution. And 1st of all, thank you so much for stepping up to do that. But since Rebecca can't serve. I will go ahead and accept that, and promise to put as little on you as possible. As I know you're filling in. But I do appreciate you stepping into that role. Happy to do it. Are we all comfortable now with the so we do have to, I believe. Go to a ballot for electing Ryan, now that he's now that he's offered, so may I get a motion on whether or not we can elect Ryan cook as the vice chair for Bj. Parking commission. A motion to elect Ryan Cook as vice chair of the parking commission.

[11:02] We'll second that. Can we get a vote. Jennifer, and I can't vote. I know, cause you're not on parking commission. I am seeing Ryan. I think you actually are allowed to vote a vote for yourself. Okay, okay. You're required to vote for yourself. In this case. I know in this case you put yourself forward. Okay, so we have. We have. I do not hear from Kevin. but I have 3. And and Kevin is an affirmative. Okay, great. So that passes. Thank you so much, Ryan, for stepping into that role. So we're able to get a new Commissioner. I believe that we have gotten the Commission recruitment update and that you'll be sending out the electronic version to the Commissioners so that we can see that, and also help spread the word to get some more people in there. I'm excited to see who the new people that are going before city Council are with that I'd like to open us up to public participation. Do we have any members of the public

[12:01] here today? We do. We have Travis, Hugh Coley, and I am now allowing to talk on zoom. Fantastic. Travis, you are muted. Oh, there you go! Yep. Hi! Hello! Travis! And welcome. Thank you so much for taking my participation. I really don't have much to say other than I'm making introductions in so much as I can. Let me see if I can read what I've said here. No big comments here. Welcome to the New Year. I'll take this time reserved for participation, just to say, Hi chat is turned off for me, Ellie. That's why I couldn't respond to you. Traffic calming measures degraded by construction need to be restored on Junction Place. You know. This is lamps that are broken along that way, too. I know we're going into a new stage as spring comes we're going to see Block 30 come alive. And I'm really excited about that

[13:06] and and so I kind of think that a review of the traffic. Calming measures on Junction Place might be warranted. Now that those big trucks are out of the way. I took a peek at Google Maps. And there's some differences from do Google Maps to what we have here. And it looks as though there were traffic calming measures that might have been taken back off the ground because of trucks getting in and out of block 30. So to review that you know, in general, looking forward, I hope to communicate issues that come up. I think we should just like the whole neighborhood should maintain a course of caution, because anything can kind of happen at any time. And maybe there's a way to integrate the new fire department into this conversation.

[14:02] at a later point, because they're new neighbors, too. That's all. Travis. 1st of all, thank you very much for your thoughtful comments. We always appreciate when members of the public come. I would like to let you know that if you ever want to share with us any materials of things or concerns or photos that you have, you can email those to the Commission. We'll be happy to to take a look at those and also bring them bring them up in public meetings. But obviously you're also always welcome to come back, and I hope you do come back in the future. Do we have any other members? Members? Do we have other members of the public right now? We do not. And I saw you on mute Rebecca. Were you about to say something. Yeah, I just wanted to confirm that the traffic calming measures that you're referring to are the bollards along the the shared pedestrian plaza of Junction Place. Well, yes, there's been because of.

[15:02] It's really unclear for drivers how to operate on junction place around that curve going north and south, and people's tendency is to drive pretty quickly, and that's led to some lamps broken down. That's the 1st thing I see. But if there are bollards to replace. Yeah, you know, I can't imagine those have been taken down. I know that there are some that are on. I know your point of distinction. There's a number of bollards around the building that I think have been knocked down. That's not directly what I'm referring to in the boulder depot building. I'm I'm really speaking more to what's on Junction Place, which makes an S curve and construction and and the bus station. Yeah, some of the short black metal things that line the roadway. Not all of them are lights, some of them. They all look the same, but not all of them are lights, and they've been hit over the years multiple times by private drivers as well as construction drivers. So I do know that sometimes there's been gaps in replacing them. But thank you for.

[16:19] Once they're gone. If you can still hear me once they're gone, and if traffic is not, you know, curtailed or restrained, or if those measures are not restored. They're hard to get back. Just that's that's my experience from these kinds of. So I wanna put that on the top of my listed points to raise. And then, Travis, just one more question. If I can ask are are you an employee, or or which complex? Do you reside in. I'm in the Boulder Depot building. Okay. Great. Thank you.

[17:02] And no one. I'm not an employee of the city. Thanks. Okay, thank you for sharing staff. If we can capture that and then one other thing I will I will share is that if you use the inquire boulder app, you can also take pictures and report it directly to the the city department. That also takes that at any time that those things come down, and that's how I usually handle it, too. As a member of the public. I'll look into that. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you, Commissioner du Michelle, for sharing your expertise on that. Do we have any other members of the public that would like to speak today? We do not. Thank you so much. Okay, with that, I believe we are moving into the consent agenda portion of the meeting. Does anyone have any questions.

[18:06] I'm not hearing anything. I'm seeing a lot of shaking a lot of shaking heads. Do we have any questions on the current financials report or the visitation report? I found it a little confusing, but. Do you have any specific questions, Sue, that you would like to ask about those. It's sort of hard to read because of the charts and stuff. I don't know. May I ask which report you're referring to. Background. I think, really. It it might be. I'm a little color blind myself. Sure. Sometimes little bit of a weird layout is all I would say. And then, like, Yeah, the dark black background makes a little bit a little harder to comprehend. Because I'm I'm thinking that this is like just a screenshot of these of this kind of spending performance. And because Boulder Junction. Gid is a different color. We're looking at this for them, and the others are, like the other districts.

[19:11] correct. Yeah. Yeah. So I think I I follow you. It's kind of hard to hear you. so yes, there's there's 2 reports. It's a Pdf. Report from a platform called Power Bi, and you'll see that the dark black portion of the fund is highlighted there. So there's 1 for Boulder Junction, General Improvement District Parking, and also Boulder Junction, General Improvement. Tdm, you'll see that there's also all the associated revenues with those districts respectively, being, as Tdm. Doesn't have any quote unquote products that are being sold. I will say, however, that this this will probably be the last time, fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your point of view that you'll see this report. We transition to a new financial system. And with that transition our reporting process has also changed some some as well. So that will be on the lookout, and I'll certainly take into account the the color of the report, and hopefully it will come through a little bit more clear next time.

[20:18] Yeah, just the dark background. And then it took me a minute to figure out that. Oh, okay, I was looking at, because that was in black versus the others were inside of a lighter black. That correct, it was referring to us. Does that answer your questions? Yeah, I had one more question. This improvement district analysis says Staff has suggest, selected progressive urban management. This is for downtown correct. This doesn't refer to us. It refers to all of our Gids. Oh, so what's that going to do? Evaluate government and finance.

[21:02] We will. We have an agenda item later. We'll be discussing. Okay. Alright! Thanks. Thank you so much. Any other comments, questions about the agenda items from the Commissioners. I look forward to what the new the new software shows us. And then hopefully, maybe we can also hide budget items that have neither budget nor unplanned expenses. Yeah. As well to clean up the view, so. Looking forward to that new software, too. That's that's the the resounding resentment of everybody. Everybody wants new software. Everybody wants new software. Thank you. Everyone I am going to move on to the btc update with will. Hi, everybody! Happy New Year! Good to be back for another round. I would like to say hello to. I believe it was Travis, member of the public. If this is still audible to him. If you live in the Depot Square community, you're eligible for numerous transportation benefits. Your property. Coordinator is very likely. Still, Sally Vigil, that's VI, Gil, and they have a leasing office on the north side of the building that faces the roadhouse.

[22:27] I don't honestly see it open very often. But Sally is really well communicative with me. If you need a free transit, pass the B cycle, which is our electric community bike share system as well as Colorado car share, which has an all electric vehicle in your garage, and 2 more just across the street, also have full respect for your traffic calming considerations. So thank you for bringing that to the table overall. I've continued to help manage those benefits over the holiday season we've had really good interaction with some of our large employers. Netapp, in particular, there is an update to share with the group that one of our employers. It's listed as transperfect, but also has some subsidies of transitions, and I think another company, and they are planning to move out of Boulder Junction

[23:20] back to their original office within the Caju district. So just a point of reference that 60 to 85 staff on our ecopass roster will move off as well as a little bit less employee travel. They were attempting back to work plans last summer and fall return to office plans, and I would defer to them to say how they're gonna plan that for downtown. But we are essentially losing one business tenant on some big positives. We have winter bike to work day coming up on Valentine's Day, which is a Friday this year, February 14, th and the Cassiopeia Boutique, which is located at approximately 34th and Meredith street

[24:01] is is great. A friend. Diana is operating that with a small lean team they are getting like 60 to 65 people riding every Saturday, even when it's freezing as sort of a preparation for another ride. So they are doing a fantastic job of community building and sort of an anchor point which is immediately across the street from sundry our local beer, wine, and cheese market. So it's great to see that corner of the district getting some good activation. They're also participating in the city's clean, commute program to an impressive degree. They will probably deplete the Grant funds, the Chambers acquired and be contributing their own financial investment, which will be matched by the city to continually encourage this sustainable transportation. What I call discretionary commuting choices for non solo driving. There are a few points I would like to share with the group. I'll pause before sending a link to see if anyone has an objection, but we are helping the city with the core arterial network planning, particularly along 30th Street with the Boulder Junction community and a little bit in the steelyards which is technically outside of our taxation district, but I do have an invitation for next Tuesday. Yes, less than a week from now

[25:17] we'll be meeting at the 30 Pearl Bluebell building which faces Mason and Rev. Apartments immediately west of Zeal Restaurant and the Open Studios Art Gallery. So I would love to share that with invitations for anyone who could relay to residents within the community or immediately adjacent. So maybe let me know if there's any objection to sharing that link to the Boulder Chamber event, registration Page. And if there are no objections, I'm happy to send that for distribution among your networks. I have no objection. Does anyone else in the group have an objection.

[26:01] Great. Well, we're not hearing any objections, so feel free to do that. Okay, I'll send that link in the chat. That is sort of referenced in the Boulder Junction Event Calendar, and that's where we will also be posting 2 other events in February that are slightly outside of our community's focus. But part of this. I'm going to say crucial. Certainly a priority project called the Core Arterial Network. Folsom Street will be the next study. And so my supervisor, Karen Warminghouse, wanted me to bring that to everyone's attention that we'll have an open house at the downtown. I think it's former City Council chambers, but on February 12th there is a fulsome initial open house, and then we'll be hosting a business focus group at the Chamber in February, so I will provide more of a recap at our March meeting on how those are going. I do have another event this evening, but I'm happy to open to any questions. If anything comes up at the moment.

[27:05] Does anyone have any follow up questions for Will? I'm not seeing any hands. Let me check. Thank you for just so. You know the the link is now posted in the chat. Well, I'm not seeing any questions. Okay? Well, I will close with one of my my personal priority projects for my work plan. With the Chamber getting the Boulder Junction, Rtd. Station reopened is a long and somewhat lofty goal. We will be planning a Rtd transit survey to distribute among the Boulder Junction community. Probably next month. This is something that has come in different iterations based on compliance and honestly willingness from Rtd, so once we have that ready, I will certainly look to circulate that to this group, as I think it would be valuable for everyone who frequents the community, and varying degrees of involvement in one of the most essential elements to service. Resumption at the

[28:08] Walter Junction Depot, Rtd. Station. Thank you for sharing that will. I will be signing off fairly soon. But if any other questions arise, feel free to email, it's will dot shepherd at Boulder chamber.com. Okay, got that? Thank you so much. Will any other comments just double checking before we lose will to yet another event? Okay, I'm not seeing any hands, so I would like to move on to the next thing. which is matters from staff. Yes, thank you, will. All right. Thank you so much. We have our next item improvement district analysis. Update. Regan Brown's not able to join us this evening. So I think hopefully, Matt Shazanski is here to walk you through where we're at with that work.

[29:04] Yes, thanks, Chris. so we're we are very excited to be taking the 1st big steps. We've been talking about this project for quite a quite a while now. and getting your feedback and and trying to make this right. And now we've been lucky enough to hire the Progressive Urban management Associates, puma. and they are going to be our consultants on the Improvement district analysis. And in just a second I'll get to introduce our consultants to you and have them talk a little bit about their approach to the project, and answer any questions that you have just a reminder before we go to introductions is that this is a project that will be looking at the near term goals for all 4 of our general improvement districts, including both of the Boulder Junction districts and examining the the immediate future of the districts.

[30:01] What efficiencies we can gain, what moves we could make to achieve goals. How to balance the revenues versus the expenses in the management of assets and the programming while at the same time also taking a look. If there's any big moves we can make to make improvements, even looking at the structure of all the different improvement district options that the State provides to municipalities and see what we can do to make sure that over the next few years boulder junctions prepared for everything that we need to accomplish, and that you can achieve your priorities. A note on this that this is again a near term. We're taking a look at a couple years ahead. and we are also going to be starting a project later this year which we're calling the improve. I'm sorry we're calling the boulder commercial areas blueprint.

[31:01] and that will be our long term vision. Taking a look at the next few decades. So this will be our year. To take a look at our strategy and make some decisions. We'll need your help with all of that particularly at the March meeting. So I hope that you have circled your calendars now to have some deep discussions then. But I'll talk about next steps when we're done. But before we get into that I wanted to introduce Brad and Amanda from Puma. Take it away, Brad. Great thanks, Matt. Can you all hear me out there in okay. Great. Well, 1st of all, thanks for making time for us on your agenda today. We appreciate that today, we just want to introduce ourselves in terms of our company. And then who? Amanda and I are a little bit about our background, our process moving forward, and then I think we'll have time for questions that that may be top of mind. So and we will take no more than 5 min to introduce ourselves. So so I'm Brad Brad Siegel, and I am the principal of something called puma Progressive Urban Management Associates.

[32:18] Our firm. There are 8 of us. So with Amanda and I on the screen, you've got a quarter of the firm right here at your disposal. We also have a couple of other members of our team working on this project. We are a firm that is really downtown and business district focus. That's that's most of our work. We work nationally, we've worked over 31 years. We've been in 40 States. 300 communities. And we also have a track record with Boulder. So we and and myself have worked with Boulder on and off for the last 25 years, both in the hill and downtown. So Boulder Junction is is new for us.

[33:02] The last thing I'll say about myself. I've been involved in community development, downtown revitalization work, my whole career. So almost 40 years. I always, I guess I always cough when I think of almost 40 years. That's a long time, and I got my start in downtown Denver, so that sign over my shoulder that was on the storefront we had in lower downtown back in the late eighties, early nineties, when lower downtown was not what it is today. And then puma goes over the last 31 years. Amanda, why don't you introduce yourself briefly. Sure. Thanks, Brad, and thank you all so much for having us today. My name is Amanda Kennard. I'm vice president with puma. I have been working with Brad and the rest of our team for the last 8 years on Improvement district projects both in the front range here and then also around the country. So I'm very deeply familiar with the different types of districts you have in Boulder and

[34:05] looking forward to digging into them over the next couple months. Here. So quick word on process. This project we've been the tagline on it is fast and furious because it is, is a fairly aggressive timeline. Here we are scheduled actually already to to present some preliminary impressions and recommendations to your city council in April. So over the next several months over the next 3, 4 months we'll be heavily relying on all the planning work that's been done in the 3 major commercial areas. There is quite the stack of plans. As you're aware. we'll also be working with the boards of the different improvement districts really to understand priorities, both near-term priorities, and then also long term. And I should mention that we're we're looking at this in a couple different ways. One is, we're looking at the actual functions of what y'all do. We're looking at what sort of services, what sort of improvements should we be doing? But then we're also getting into the nuances of how these improvement districts operate. So getting into, you know, a little bit under the hood

[35:17] and really trying to understand how we can optimize these districts in each commercial area. So we we are excited. I'm excited to be working in boulder again. And we it might sound really kind of nerdish, but that's who we are. That, we're excited about working with these improvement districts, but we do think we do think it's timely. The hill, the downtown general improvement districts been around a long time. So they're a little overdue for some maintenance with you guys, you're fairly new. And I know there are some issues related to near term and long term growth. And we'll be certainly looking at that.

[36:00] So, Matt, I mean anything you want to add. And then I we're here at your pleasure. So if there's some questions that folks have, or some things top of mind, we'll do our best to answer them. Great. Thank you so much, Brad and Amanda. Nothing to add to that, I think. You summed it up really well, and we're excited, too, and I guess I will underscore this is gonna be a a fast process. It's gonna be a matter of weeks to get this together. And so We'll be relying on you being smart and us being quick, and so I'll hand it off for questions, and then I'll go over some next steps. Going to open it up for questions from Commissioners. I see you, Commissioner Prant. Yeah, sure. So I have a few questions. So what was the impetus for taking on the study of the 3 districts like, whose idea? And why.

[37:01] Yeah, this is actually a great question. Thank you for that. This is actually came together over the course of about the last 18 months, because of the number of questions that have come up from all of our commissions associated with general improvement districts as well as from the community and staff about exactly what the future of the districts is and how to best respond. For instance, the conversations that we've been having about the balance of taxation, about the transportation options for the future, about Rtd's future and making sure that we have what we need for Boulder Junction to be effective in the in the coming years. Just those questions that come up are complex and involve a lot of understanding of the governance of the districts and the conditions on the ground. and because of the number of questions that came up in all the districts, it was necessary to bring together a full project around this. We're also very aware of.

[38:09] the connection that this will make with the Boulder Valley comprehensive plan that's being updated right now. And so we want to have these tools available so that you all can make recommendations and ultimately city council, as the Board of Directors for the general improvement districts can make some decisions and need the information to back it up. So that is is the the basis for the general basis for why we needed to take this product on and do it so quickly. So I I have 3 questions. So question number 2. So then it seems like you'll be suggesting changes not only to structure, but also, like, you know, more lighting. Is that correct? And is there funding set aside for this. So, yeah, I I appreciate that. There, I do not expect a lot of recommendations about big moves on programming or capital investments and new things to build and new things to do. We're relying on what's been studied and understood already for this 1st part.

[39:13] So this is more about achieving what we know we want to do in front of us right now. And so it is about the governance moves and efficiency. But it's less about doing sort of master planning for the district. The next project that commercial areas blueprint will get more into that but we wanted to make sure that what we have right now are the tools to get done our current priorities before we build on future ones. And you're doing the commercial areas blueprint, correct. Yes, correct. That will be staff driven as well. And my last question, in which case you might refer me to that is like, How would I have Citizen input to say, Get rid of the downtown traffic loop Eve.

[40:05] I I think. Yes, that's something that we can bring up. In in future planning, I would also say, like, participate in the Boulder Valley. Comprehensive plan! Outreach! There's another way for your voice to be heard. But yes, let's keep an eye on that, too, and I'll make sure that your voice is heard on that for sure. Okay. Thanks. And, Chris, you has a comment about that. Oh, you're muted. Darn phone. Wanted to just add to that. So yes, certainly. The current planning conversations are revolving around the Boulder Valley Comp plan. The commercial areas, blueprint work that Matt mentioned coming up. And of course the downtown can study is still on the project list for transportation and mobility. So there will be lots of opportunities to communicate desires for changes in each of the districts downtown will have a number of opportunities.

[41:10] Ryan. Thanks. Just a follow up to your answer, Matt. To Sue's 1st question. I put it in the chat. This is this is a follow up to the or an outcome of the is it the was it called the District Health Survey? We did last summer? Is that the case? I apologize. I'm I'm blanking on the District Health Survey. Maybe it wasn't called that. I just remember with a different group. And and we talked about the health of the districts and suggestions for improvements is, that was, that, like an earlier part of this whole project. It. It wasn't directly this project. But it is information that we're using in order to form this. Yeah, yeah, you know, like, I said, we'll be back to you in March. We'll be engaging closely with the commissions, and so we want to make sure that your voice is clear. So, you know, let's let's definitely keep your ideas on the table at at the March meeting.

[42:10] Yeah, sure, I just was trying to connect the dots cause. I remembered the the earlier conversation. Okay, great thanks. Are there any other questions? I am not getting any questions, and with that I will leave it to Chris for his section with his staff update. Thank you. So go ahead. Oh, yeah. Next steps. That was just questions. Yes. Real quick. Sorry I should have jumped in earlier. Yeah, yeah, just before we move on some real quick next steps. Like, I said. We'll be back to you in the March meeting with hopefully. Just a ton of information and in in between. Now and then we are gonna be reaching out to stakeholders. Both amongst the departments and in the community. And we don't know yet exactly how broader interaction is going to go. We're going to take a look through at this literature review that Brad and Amanda are in the middle of, and see what kind of questions we need to ask, but there may be an opportunity between now and then that we have a few questions that we want to ask, and and may reach out for your input on that.

[43:16] So keep an eye on your emails. Between now and then we'll keep you updated. But certainly at the March meeting we'll have a detailed discussion before we go on. After that, with our date with Council in order to move that forward. We're expecting to wrap this up by June or July. So we'll have a report for you then, and we'll continue to talk. And if anyone has any questions or wants to follow up on any specifics. Give me an email, and we'll make sure to answer your question directly. Sorry, thank you, Chris. Alright any more questions for Matt. On the next steps

[44:01] huge. I just wanna make sure I'm just double checking the chat to make sure there's no questions there. Okay. All right, real quick. The on the update on letter to City Council, a number of our commissions had suggested that they would like to communicate a letter to city council this year, and I'm not sure if that was some feedback that we got from Boulder Junction commissions or not. Excuse me. but I just wanted to give you all an update. The Council has not requested formal letters from any boards and commissions at the city. They are getting ready for their midterm retreat. It'll take place during a regular city council meeting. I don't have the calendar up in front of me, but in about a month. and it's just to check in on their existing priorities that they set at last year's retreat. So they're not asking for new letters from commissions. They're basing their priorities off of what they heard a year ago. So just wanted to provide an update on that request.

[45:09] Do we have any? Follow up questions for Chris on that request? Rebecca. Chris, I think one of the follow up items was, what what is the process to submit a letter when letters have not been requested, and I believe you were going to either check with other staff, or check with the clerk. So is the answer, then, that without a request there is, there is no communication back to council from the Commission. There won't be any any communication that Staff helps with if they're at any time. If the Commission wants to use their time to write a letter and get a nod of a majority on the language of that letter. You are able to do so, and then we would submit that to the city clerk's office, and they would likely add it to a regular meeting packet. So there's nothing that prevents you all from doing that it's just not something that's being requested from council. So Staff isn't being empowered to help you all with the formation of the letter, and doing that as we have in the past.

[46:16] Okay. Right? Clarification. Yeah. Just gonna say, Rebecca, I'm not sure the best way for us to communicate, you know, taking into account the public meeting rules, but I'm happy to help, you know. support writing a letter that goes through, you know the appropriate channel. So if you. if if there's a way we can figure out the best way to handle that, you know, if it's just direct one on one emails or whatnot and then we could maybe have something prepared by next meeting, or I don't know. Anyways, if if we can figure out the way to to coordinate, I'm happy to help with suggesting content, or, you know, drafting, proofreading, etc.

[47:04] So 2 commission members are allowed to form a subcommittee that does not require public notice of said meeting to form something together and then bring it to the Formal Commission meeting which could happen in March for the Commission's consideration. Okay, Ryan. Then I think we somehow have coverage, then, of both commissions between the 2 of us. Just by basis of me being on both. Would you? I can send you my email if you want to form that subcommittee with me. Sure, and then the proposal is, you and I can draft something, and then present at the next meeting, during matters from commissioners. Correct. Okay. Is that later than you were hoping, as far as the timeline for delivering a letter? Or is that fine.

[48:03] It is later than I was hoping, because I was hoping that we would have a final one by this one. But we didn't get the answer on the process until now. So that being said feedback at some point during a year is better than than no feedback at all. So. Okay. Chris, do we need to have a vote with team members as far as the subcommittee? Or is that just self elected. I think it would be helpful just to formalize that in the minutes of this meeting. Great, so could I get a motion to create a subcommittee. The move. A letter to City Council. I move that we create a subcommittee to share our opinions with City Council. I second, may I get approval from the group. Hi! Yes. That is unanimous as permanent consent on that. Thank you. Everyone. Does anyone else have any questions for Chris before we turn it over, Ryan.

[49:06] If we if we draft something prior to the meeting, is that something we can work with? The team at the city, Chris just as far as sending it back out to the rest of the group, digitally like an email back to the group. Or do we need to present it? Just live at the meeting. We can. No, I we can do that. We can include it in the meeting packet. And I think we are allowed to, you know, distribute something out even in advance of the meeting packet. For consideration. There just can't be any back and forth discussion over email about it. Okay, thanks for clarifying that. Thank you for that clarification. Are there any other questions? I'm not seeing any questions, so I will move on to matters from commissioners, and I do have a point here on the agenda that we are discussing, finalizing the 2025 Bj. Parking and Bj. Tdm. Commissions priorities for those of who you who are on the call that is on page 30 of your packet.

[50:10] So does the last page. If you want to roll all the way down. And, Chris, I know you just hopped off and you're having connectivity issues. But I guess my question is, are you asking us to vote on these today? Yes. So this is just we wanted to to formalize for the year ahead. I think they have. They're just the reiteration of what we had from last year. If there was any additional discussion, and we would just continue to include these, unless there are any revisions that you all want to work through now. Thank you so much. Do any of the Commissioners have revisions that they'd like to discuss this time, Sue. I see your hand. I just have a question. At 1 point we were doing regular transportation surveys to find out like numbers, because I used it

[51:03] on my Dr. Cog grant, like how many people were coming in and in and out of the district by different modes of transportation, and I thought that there was some sort of like part of the organizing documents of the Bj was like 30%. How do you use Trans or something like that? Do we still do that? Do we still report on that. We do? Yes, and it, yeah, it's required to do every 2 years by the forming ordinances. When was the last. Time we did it. That is a great question. I don't know for sure, right at the top of my head, because all the years kind of mesh together. But we do that in partnership with transportation and mobility where the district pays for it, and transportation leads it. So we'll have to follow up with Chris Haglund and confirm where that is on their work. Plan. Okay, it'd be great to know from the next meeting, and if it was done, you know, fairly recently, if we could see it

[52:05] no. Great. Thank you, Sue Rebecca. I see your hand. Yes, I just want some clarification. I think we discussed some of this, but just looking at the list, it's not clear to me how these things might possibly interact with with each other. So the second one Tdm offering development has probably some overlap with Number 3, which is very specific. It's very clear what that priority is to restore and expand Rtd Bus services to the Depot Square station. But then we have item number 6, which is transit enhancements. So the broad terms for Number 2 and Number 6, I'm not clear what this distinction is between those and what we're trying to do with those 2 priorities as listed here.

[53:03] Ryan, are you speaking to that or another matter? Yeah, I guess it's it may be in support of Rebecca's thought that we have. We have you know, twice the number of priorities as we have commissioners, I mean, I maybe we could be a bit more focused, and that such as you know, like Rebecca mentioned maybe finding a way to state 2, 3, and 6 more clearly as a single item, just as an example improvement we could make to this list. I don't know if that would help council if that would help Staff if we were a bit more specific. I'm not sure Do you? Yeah, do you have specific wording? You'd like to propose. Well, I guess the way my mind works. I probably would say I could follow up with suggestions as opposed to coming up with them on the fly. But

[54:03] just that that specific example. we might be able to just state it as what's listed in Number 3, and then maybe and other. you know, non bus options or something like that at the end. Just just kind of generalize. But I like, I I don't. Yeah. It's hard for me to come up with it on the fly. I think that's fair. I think it's I think it's a fair, I mean, like my own personal perspective on this, too, is, I think it's fair to combine some of these. I do like the idea of having some vaguer ones that allow the staff the opportunity to like. So like basically build around it. So for like with Rebecca, just said is number 3 is very specific, and it's definitely in keeping with 2. But would 2 need to be there to allow for something else if it comes up as as it

[55:05] as it as it does. And I wanna I wanna point out that I do see Sue Pratt's hand. Yeah, I guess I'm just saying, I agree that this could be really tightened up into like 5. I can't do it on the fly, either, but. So like for me, I'd probably get rid of like I'd probably put 9 as neighboring community collaboration and events, cause they're kind of like the same thing in my mind. I do see Jennifer Shriver. Hey, everyone. Yeah, I a couple of thoughts about this list. So one appreciate the thought and input to my recollection. So it would be helpful to get like a correction on. My sense of the process is that this came up at a couple of meetings. I want to say toward the end of 2024,

[56:07] maybe, like the September and November and it. I believe this was our attempt. I'm just wanting to revisit my own thinking, that's really what I'm going for here. So input on, that is welcome that we were trying to articulate, what are the what are the directions or the work or the kind of forward movement that we want to see happening in the district. So, for example, I know I've been wanting to support Tdm development in the district, and so post Covid Post getting the bus station working again. We could take a look at what else makes sense. I know. number 6 transit enhancements included. Specifically a couple of things were like bringing the hop bus up into the Junction.

[57:05] there's the I think it's called the Flex that goes up to Fort Collins like. So how do I say this? I feel like these did in my mind articulate different directions or possibilities. At least those few like the Tdm offering is really like, let's open that up and think, here we are today. We've maybe got better resident and commercial people in the district. The Rtd station is back. What can we do? So that question 2 is intended to be like an open ended. How can we move this forward? And then number 6 is really looking at, since we don't have a train. But what what could we do about bus connections? Obviously number 3 getting the Rtd service back appears to have been handled. It's somewhat out of our control other than to say

[58:01] and make sure that people in the city are aware and working on it. So that's my input, and I wanted to just back up and check my original question of am I, recalling our process accurately. Thank you, Ryan. I see your hand, but I just want to point out to Staff that a at least 2 commissioners have made notes on these that are now in the chat. So I'm just gonna say those out loud so that we can have that in the recording as well. Rebecca said. 3 could be more specific to non bus offerings, car share, bike, share, micro mobility, etc. 6 could be non-station. Enhancements extend pop across 39 and 11 can be combined. And 7. The question from Commissioner Cook is, is that complete? Maybe that one could be removed? Yeah, I I agree with that one, too. But we they they did such a great job with the the wayfair the way finding.

[59:10] I see Matt. Did I see your hand go up. Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to make a a quick update on the way. Finding that the project is very nearly complete. We have right of way permits that are needed for I think 3 more, and then it'll then that project will be done. With the wayfinding icons project will be done. So you know it's it's up to you if you want to keep it on there. But we're in the homestretch. I would. I don't know how the rest of the Commissioners feel. I would argue that we should keep it on there until it is completed. Jennifer Shriver. Neighboring community collaboration, I think, includes potential inclusion of other buildings, neighborhoods, businesses in the district or in our Tdm offerings. I think this is the distinct from events

[60:03] Sue has pointed out. Maybe it's grouped into topics, revenue infrastructure, enhanced Cdm or community outreach. So like those are bullet points. And these are examples that's possible. It's actually really possible. That's I think that like, if so, it's it's not. It kind of jumps around its own. Rebecca. This is a question from Matt. Do you expect the right away to be resolved before the March meeting? No, I don't expect that. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, or Rebecca again? Or did you put your hand down? Okay? Any other questions or comments. Chris? We just made a lot of adjustments. Do we need to hold a vote on those, or do we need to have them rewritten and redistribute it to the Commissioners?

[61:08] Well, I think thanks for the question. Ellie's been working to capture the conversation. Yeah, I see that. So if you feel like that's been adequately captured, and you like how it's landed, then we could vote on it or we could work on cleaning this up based on all the feedback and then have the final vote. At the next meeting. Commissioner, do you have a a comment before we do that? Yes, I just have one correction. So 3 A should be actually be 2 a. I typed the wrong thing, and then it was read out the wrong way. So that's just the. Apologies for my error. There. No, no, it was me, not you, Commissioner Ronan, so.

[62:02] I believe that. Oh, wait, Ryan, do you have a comment. Oh, I was, guess maybe just gonna try to answer Chris's question. And as a suggestion, maybe we vote on it at the next meeting. Okay. How did the rest of the Commission feel about that. I agree. I'm getting. The whole thing so. Okay, so we're gonna have. Ali, go ahead and clean that up and then vote it at the next meeting which leads us into. Of course I closed my adobe while trying to see that screen. I can help you. We're still on matters from Commissioners. So at yes. Matters Commissioner. Open it up for. Let's see, open it up to you. I see your hand up, so let's go matters from Commissioners.

[63:00] So, Chris? At the last meeting we had an open inquiry into what t vap phase 2 was doing, and whether or not we correctly had liaison involvement in phase 2. Because it's been quite a while since we've had an update from them or direct involvement. So do you have an update on our participation, or how we can be involved. Sure. So thanks for the question. There's no. There's been no change or no additional work on TV phase 2. Since the land use and transportation connections were approved by Council. I think that was the middle of last year. so no additional work has happened related to that. Brian. Would that mean, Chris, that as the planning department comes around to it, that that the next steps would be

[64:02] any zoning changes related to that land use, and then that would then free up. You know, landowners to start making changes or planning changes is that, like the long term process. Correct. And that's actually happening right now. There are proposals that are starting to come in for the parcels and tvap phase 2. That would trigger the land use changes as those developments come in. Got it. Okay. Alright, I'm not seeing another raised hand, but want to make sure all matters from commissioners have been considered. I guess you know my my interest in phase 2 planning, as it relates to this commission is, is mostly just. One thing is around like kind of the continuity of of function for the boards. Is there an expectation as

[65:05] properties in the district? In the phase 2 area come online. Will there be a new Gid, or will they start participating in this? Gid? I'm just kind of curious about how that might look. What the city's planning on, you know, long term for that function. So I think that's that's my motivation when I'm you know, asking questions and interest about it. Why, I think it's helpful to hear from from them periodically is is mostly coming from that place. I'm glad you're thinking about that, because it's that is one of the questions that's being posed through this improvement districts. Analysis, acknowledging that we want to have the same types of access to resources for the properties east of the railroad tracks. And there are some limitations and challenges. If we just continue to petition properties in because of the required catch up fees and pilot fees. So that is part of this conversation in the improvement districts work

[66:03] that we'll be tackling through the months ahead. But I would say, just, you know, don't want to share a lot of details, because it's not through the planning process yet, but the one of the proposals that is currently in is anticipating, petitioning in to likely the Tdm. District. Thank you for that. Update, Chris. Any other matters from commissioners. I'm seeing that as a No which leads us to. German. I think. Adjournment. I think we just have adjournment, nothing else. No matters from staff, nothing else.

[67:03] Thank you. Everyone. Our next meeting is on March. What is that next meeting is March? Does anybody have the date available? Just so we have. If they're recording a minute. Says, 19.th March 19.th I look forward to seeing all of you there, and I promise not to accidentally close down my packet midway through the meeting. Although it does say Tuesday, and we don't normally meet on Tuesdays. So is that correct? That's a good question. It's not. March 19th is a Wednesday, so it might have just been a typo. Okay, we'll get a typo, correct it for the next one and other than that. I hope everyone has a wonderful evening, and thank you so much for your participation today. Thank you, Robin. Everybody. Thank you. Everyone. Hi! Everyone. Thank you. That was great bye.