June 25, 2025 — Boulder Arts Commission Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] Okay, we are supporting welcome to the Boulder Arts Commission meeting. It is June 25, th 2025, and I will call Rule Oh. Gerald Ardoso. I. Hi, Cheryl! Hi, Cheryl! Really cool here. Jeffrey Cash! Joe is not here. I will now hand the meeting over to the chair. Go over to Hill. I don't. Great, thank you. We're gonna start with the land acknowledgement. The city of Boulder acknowledges the city is on the ancestral homelands and unceded territory of indigenous peoples who have traversed, lived in and stored lands in the Boulder Valley since time immemorial. Those indigenous nations include the Apache, Arapahoe, Cheyenne.

[1:09] Comanche, funny Shashani to and mute the city of Boulder recognizes that those now living and working on these ancestral lands have a responsibility to acknowledge and address the past and must work to build a more just future. And with that I'd like to approve today's agenda. If anybody would like to make motions, I'll move to approve a second. All right, everybody in favor, Cheryl. Yes or no, on the agenda. oh, on the agenda. Sorry? Yes, yes, on the agenda. That's great, unanimous. And we'll move to the approval of the May meeting minutes from last month and a small change. Okay, under the liaison updates. There is an update on Evoca that I gave 2 sentences. Second sentence should say,

[2:11] The Moca recently opened a new exhibit says something else if they fly in the event and then close, but they open it. Thank you bye. They will update that in. And referring to an internship on there. The dare was spelled as the diary. It happens to be aligned. Any other amendments great. If anybody would like to make a motion to. I'll move to approve with those methods diagonally, all in favor. Share my words here. So we. This one I'm abstaining from, because I wasn't at the meeting. No, I'm with you there, sweetheart, I was waiting for you. Thank you. The motion carries with 4 votes

[3:02] great, and we will move on to public participation. And I know you've had some introductory slides, and then I have an announcement. And then we'll call hey, the city has engaged with community members to co-create a vision for productive meaningful and inclusive civic conversations. This vision supports physical and emotional safety for community members, staff and council, as well as democracy, for people of all ages, identities lived experiences and political perspectives for more information about this vision and the community engagement processes. You can visit the website on the screen. The city will enforce the rules of decorum found in the older revised code. Section 16. B. Including participants, are required to sign up to speak, using the name they are commonly known by, and individuals must display their full name before being allowed to speak online. Currently, only audio testimony is permitted online.

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[5:13] Obscenity or other epithets based on race, gender or religion, and other speech and behavior that disrupts or otherwise impedes, that we need will not be tolerated in person. Participants are asked to refrain from expressing support or disagreement verbally, or with sounds, such as applause or snapping, with the exception of declarations, traditionally support is shown through American sign language, applause. Great. I know that we have a full signed up in person. Do we have anybody online? If anyone online, we don't have anyone. Okay? Great. So the reminder for those who are speaking in person. Today we'll have 3 min per speaker, and I'll give you a little motion when you're running out of time, and then we are in the middle of our which, Grant said, this community projects

[6:09] for individuals and the arts, education grants. So if you are an applicant for either one of those, just be advised that the Commission is sequestered until we have a vote. So that means what that means is that you're free to come and make some comments, but restrict to not speaking about the project that you have applied, for we will not be able to hear those comments. Okay, is the this, these are the 2 great we'll start with Rory Fitzgerald. Let's up. and then yes, the best place so that we can get you on the online is to come over by where Julie is, and if you can move that chair out of the way and this is the camera right here, so project so that

[7:11] we can hear you online as well for the recovery. Hi, my name is Roy Joe Bledzzo. I am an artist and curator, living in Boulder, and I have run a experimental art project space called Sweet Space in East Holler. I was one of the applicants. I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed to speak about the process or my specific application until now. So I will amend my comment. To speak more generally, I think my biggest concern in terms of the evaluations of the grants was the open call on social media for people of all backgrounds and all. you know, people who are psychotherapists, people who are vets to be evaluating the grant application. And this is something that's like very much outside the norms of arts funding. And I question whether we should be

[8:12] seeking people who are experts in the field to provide, because I think only experts really in terms of this can evaluate. And I think that's really important. Since these projects are so critical, I know that so many of us have projects that we're so passionate about. And I also know that I will say more generally. I know that it was very competitive. It came down to only a number of a few points, and so I wanted to ask. because there were so many projects. I looked at them. There's so many amazing projects out there. And I just wanted to ask, maybe we would consider to disperse the funds a little bit more democratically, since the points it came down to only a few points for many of us, and maybe think about how we're going to disperse them. Thank you so much.

[9:00] Okay, thank you. And thank you for that feedback. I know that it's a new program that we have a committee. And so, just as part of our annual review, we always look at and consider feedback like that. So, thank you. Great our next speaker is Gwen. Yurek. Hi! I'm Gwen Burak. I'm the deputy director of the Golden Museum of contemporary art, and I'm just here to give a quick update on the work that's being done for the new Museum and the new Museum site, which I know many of you are aware of or heard of, and many thanks to Maria for hopes updated. I noticed in the minutes last month that Grant shared that the program phase had been completed. And so we are definitely in the work of the architect and the teams of stakeholders trying to envision what a great new museum will look like in terms of our flagship up in one of the district. For those of you who are less familiar

[10:15] project, the Museum will anchor a creative campus at the corner of Violet and Broadway. And so we are working on the programming of the museum space and have just entered what's called the concept design phase of the project. And so, right now the architects and the various teams of folks are working on. How will the museum be laid out onto the acreage of the site and vis-a-vis the other components of the campus. We expect that that work will be completed in the fall. There will be multiple spots of community engagement with small groups of people, and then the hope is this fall there will be a much larger opportunity which we tentatively have in September. It could

[11:01] slide later. But and we'll communicate the exact dates. But we're an opportunity for the whole community to come and see progress to date. Give feedback on some of the options that are being proposed by the architect. And again, the folks that are working on this most closely with us right now are the architect that was chosen, called soil, which is out of Brooklyn, New York, and then partnered with the local architect Hilberry. who has proven to be an essential part of the equation to really educate all of us on what the city of boulders requirements are, so that we don't get down a path that actually isn't viable in the city. So really exciting work that's getting done. We've got to do very fun. Things like look at a million different gallery spaces and say, yes, no, yes, no. As well as talk about how the education spaces get activated. What is the community? Really tell us they're wanting. And so a lot of good work is being done with that regard, and the next kind of big step will be in September hopefully. But you know, might be a little later, where we'll invite everybody to come in and really meet the architects again, and also see what's kind of going on with the project. So I guess. Stay tuned. We're still at a shovel in the ground in 2027, which maybe seems far away. But to us it's really not far away. And we're working hard both on the building and also continuing with the capital campaign to raise funds for the project. So thank you. Thank you.

[12:28] Question. Question, okay, great. Any other. All right. So that is all I have for the public participation. And we will move on to commission business and the leadership position appointments. So Staff was taking nominations. Which no nominations. Well, we both self nominated, or to to continue, Jeffrey and I and correct me if I'm way off. But historically, we've also opened it up to nominations at the meeting. So if there's anybody on the Commission,

[13:14] Cheryl of you online, also that want to throw their name into the their hat into the ring or either of these positions. This is when you can do it. Yeah, I think I think Lauren said it in email. Both of us are are fine with serving again. But if someone is is willing to serve and wants to. I think any, either or either of us are are happy to give other folks opportunities. Can't really see Cheryl. So I don't see any. Okay. I I agree. Well, I don't agree. I agree. I support the silence of people appreciating the 2 of you for stepping up. I am happy to

[14:03] step aside and allow you both to continue leading. And then you both are doing a great job. Thank you. Don't fix. We'll be coming for you next week. Awesome, all right. And so so we've got gotcha nice tray, though. Sorry. Live editing is helpful. Okay. right? Anybody else like to make a motion. I'll take that motion. I move this bill and heard the appointed chair and the Victory caption question.

[15:03] so that in that great, any further discussion, all in favor unanimous. Thank you, guys, it's an honor. And I look forward to working with you. Thank you. All right matters from the Commissioner. So we're going to move into great. So these are the appointments for commissioners to serve on the boards of these 3 organizations, and all of the current assignments are willing to come back to their appointed seats. and if there was anybody who does not wish to return, or who would like to consider

[16:03] for one of those seats for the Dairy Arts Boulder Museum of Contemporary Art, or the Convention and Visitors bureau now will be the time to raise your bullet. Let's wait for something to show. Okay, seeing none. Would anybody like to make a motion as well. I'll note that Jeffrey be appointed as board member with the Dairy Art Center, Maria be appointed as board member with the Boulder Museum of Contemporary Art and Cheryl be appointed as board member with the convention and visitors group seconds all the second all in favor. That's unanimous. Thank you. And thanks, you guys, I always like getting your reports back. So I know it takes a lot of extra work. So have you.

[17:01] Okay? Now we'll move into the liaison updates. And so this is an opportunity for us to just share what we're hearing from our liaisons and what they're up to. And there is any special information that the Mission should know about. or the public wants to go about in the reporting. I'll start great hosted at the dairy Center. Just a fantastic view time and other materials by Elton Holder artists. So if you all have a chance to see, you should see the film play 80 knots a little bit. 2 showings and would be packed one. So it was. That was great. Also, if you go to be Moca's website, you can see a number of summer camps. So everyone out there, if we're looking for things for their kids to do this summer, just a whole wealth of great opportunities for kids and art. Molly Gambrella will be speaking Saturday and Sunday, and you should all attend at the Boulder Main Library, and this is part of the

[18:13] Thank you. Experiments in public art that's going to be a fantastic exhibit and lecture, and I'll just let you know that I'm experiencing a little bit of Carlondo by taking lessons with them. And they're it's really fun. Yeah. I can share that. I attended pride. Cabaret had some friends in the show super fun. They have the aerial dance festival coming up in August, and the junkyard is going to partner with them for some artist meetup things happening during the week to give them more space, and just like have hang out, not just studio space. And then I'll plug something also happening in the junkyard right now, which is the Boulder comedy festival happens all weekend, not just at the junkyard, but tonight's show is sold out, so I'm sure that every other night is going to be full, and if you want to go, you should get tickets. Now.

[19:14] Okay. I don't have a ton of updates given the school year and everything else, but just something exciting that's going to be happening in October. It's roots. Music has a festival, and it's gonna be, I think, pretty special, and it's a world weekend, and I know that in it they've have some big donors, captain, recently. And so it's just something that's going to be very unique to Boulder. I think so. Get excited, and I'm sure I'll have more to share. They're not a liaison, but I do. I am excited about. and I'm going to add something on just regarding roots, and that is that art and community which is the umbrella organization for the Boulder Burners community is hosting our Decompression party on September 27.th And so we've just started the Art Grant cycle for that. So if there are local artists who have

[20:21] art that they may want to bring to a burn demand style party. They can reach out to me and I'll get you in contact with the Art Grant committee. The art grants are typically $500,000 at the next. But it's a fun time to showcase some art and usually, visual, some some visual arts. And then sculptural art. When you say experience so. Cheryl, you, you're just a big glare to me, so I'm sorry. It's cause I'm in New York, where everyone glares.

[21:04] I just wanna say that it is streetwise mural art walking tour season. The next one is July 12th gonna double check that. Yes, July 12, th at 10 Am. You can check their website for other ones. I've not been on one. I'm going on one in July 12, th so I would love to see you there, but I've heard good things. I'm excited. I've been traveling for much of the last 45 days so I've not gotten to choose as much as I want to, but I've got lots of things lined up in in July. I did get to see the Duquesne Tam Ritsons up at Chautauqua last month, and also 2 new folks to the Gos support Grant program, cultural caravan and Viva Theater. I got to see their week of shows with cultural caravan, and it was a really fantastic festival for the entire week. And Viva did our town.

[22:05] which sounds like it might be passe. But it's just as relevant as ever. And and to see that community organization put that production on with people on stage, where basically just about everyone on stage is 60 or better. And to see the cemetery scene, where everyone up on the stage is over. The age of 80 just will take your breath when. So I was very proud of that. Yeah, yeah. I can share. Kgnu has july 11th is going to be their resistance. Art lawyers open reception. So it's going to be a presentation of artists, you know, sort of protest art. And their website says that they're still taking applications. So if you're interested, go to their website and pick them up.

[23:00] and then T. 2. Dance is also taking applications for their versatility. Dance fest, which is happening in January of 2026 and then they are also going to be hosting the Choreo fest for dance choreographers. August 4th through 10th and tenant. So those are opportunities. Kgmu has a lot of fun, sort of news events coming up on their website and feel like they're listening. Oh, yes, Brazil fest is happening August 7th through 10, th and that is Boulder Samba school. Having some events at social club at the downtown band. Shell at music. So that's going to be a fun. 4 or 5 days of dance and Brazilian music. So check it out all right.

[24:10] From there we can go on to our commission work items, which is our small local groups. and if anybody has an update on their issues and what is up to. I can share a little bit about the funding support committee. Warren, myself. Gaia and Emmy is the city web designer. Met resource page on the city page office of Arts and Culture. So you kind of have to know that it exists to find it. So we spend some time thinking about it from a user perspective, how to find what exists. finding the links that are currently broken, thinking about how it could get organized differently, so that it's easier to find what you need. So we left Emmy with a list of things to work on, and they're gonna add some more possible grant opportunities. In fact, if anybody has ones that they're aware of, or if you want to

[25:16] poke around on that resource page, and if anything is missing like I I saw that the mirror frame wasn't on there. yeah, let let Laura know. And Lauren can share with Emmy and then, once it's updated, I offered to give us just a little walkthrough of it so that we can then meet with our liaison organizations and make them more aware of it and how to use it. I think that'll be especially helpful for some of those also applying for individual grants to know where else they could get more funding support. Yeah. Jeffrey and I. Jeffrey's been traveling a lot. So with the attachment this time. Oh dear! It'll make it so much easier, so much more efficient. So we are in a holding pattern. Anybody else.

[26:20] I, too, have been traveling. So we are in a holding pattern, and I don't think Kelly is there correct? All right, moving on to our budget presentation by Elliot. Welcome and nice to see you. Yes, it's been some time, I think, a little less than a year. So today, I really want to look at see if this goes into presentation. Really, just kind of want to give you guys, a high level update on city finances across the entire organization kind of what is being discussed from the headwinds of sales and use tax as well as property taxes.

[27:05] Of course, with the mutual passage of the Arts Culture and Heritage Fund, 2. A. Any change in sales, tax projections impacts the fund health overall. So always keeping a close eye on it. So today we'll just dive in really focusing 1st on this kind of the citywide revenue projections. So there was a press release that went out last week under the title of City Freezes, hiring for most banking positions, and seeks to reduce spending in 2025. That's across the entire organization. So we're working with central finance right now to identify any places where we can have some cost savings. There's some flexibility there which is great. we've basically been instructed that fund balance can be used as a cost saving. So when it comes to arts, culture and heritage. We still feel very solid in what we're doing and the programs that we're standing up and trying to support this year. So no changes there. Don't anticipate any changes, either.

[28:10] The biggest thing right now for community vitality is really that hiring freeze is what's impacting us as a department anything, any position that's considered non essential asterisk. I would love to define that for you, but I can't write this moment. Is basically held frozen vacant until end of December. This year. not a lot of room for enhancements across the general fund, or really any funds, for that matter. The big caveat there is with the arts, culture, and heritage. Everything that was approved for 2025 was approved as one time, so technically everything that we asked for in 2026 be an enhancement. Again, I don't foresee any issues with that.

[29:00] Staff has been working diligently with our consultants to identify the best use of those funds, and central finance is very aware of that. And the last thing we want to do is just let a fund balance grow for the sake growing. So we want to make sure we get those dollars program. So I do not anticipate any holds on that overall. It's looking about an 8 to 10 million dollar reduction in revenues over the next couple of years. That's every sales and use tax. So not just obviously, arts and culture. They will have their share of a little bit of a reduction. But it's not nearly as dramatic, because the percentage of 3.5 million versus 120 million is quite a bit smaller number. So that's really the big news that's coming on. There will be a council meeting. I believe it's actually tomorrow night. That Bill Central Finance and Essential Budget staff will be presented with them. I strongly encourage you to tune in, or at least catch up with, the summary post that I think there'll be some more details in regards of what that reduction actually looks like, and the numbers that we're seeing we're still working with our partners at Cu for our economic projections. And really trying to shift from

[30:22] where we were in 2022, with a very conservative outlook, we in 23. And these other years we've kind of middle of the road. Let's not be overly conservative. So we restrain program expansion. But let's not be overly optimistic either, so that we come short of revenue projection. So we were really close last year. In our revenue projections. I believe we were off by like a half of percent from what we projected. So kudos to Cu and our central finance staff for doing a good job of really making sure that what we say is going to happen actually happens.

[31:02] Looking at this year, I wanted to put together a few slides for you all kind of selfishly as well we we as in community vitality and the arts and culture staff is we really want to wrap our head around like, what is arts funding? So this pie chart that you see here this is inclusive of every funding source for arts and culture programming. A big portion of this goes into public arts, and the next slide will tell a little bit tale about that. But this is every fund that contributes to arts programming across the city. You can see in that chart below things like transportation and facilities, the downtown commercial district with that 1% for civ. It's pointing to a pretty significant bump into total arts funding, which is really great. And I know we've talked a lot about it. But we've never really wrapped our head around the data. And this is where we're getting our head wrapped around that data. And it was a fun chart to put together, to really understand

[32:09] where it's all coming from, and and kind of the percentages of it. I will say there's a small caveat here that some of this funding is not, I would say. programmed exactly. It is earmarked for public art from the Cip Brendan and Jake and Matthew have been working very hard on making sure that does get more official in its programming. But it is kind of held aside for public art in these capital projects. So that's kind of neat to see how arts funding is. Not just from the arts and culture and heritage tax, but how we can lean into other funding mechanisms to help bolster art support across the organization. That's a question. Sorry. Can you tell me what the yellow letters are? Yeah. Yep. So the biggest piece of pie. Here is arts, culture and heritage. That is, the 2, a funding

[33:09] the second biggest is facilities, which is at 24% at teal. The main bulk of that is the Western city campus that has a big 1%. Obviously a very large project. So 1% of that's going to equate to a lot of dollars. So that's the second biggest source for kind of 2025. The yellow portion is the Ccrs. So that's a combination of 1% of some Ccrs projects as well as 1% from the remaining 90% that's dedicated to public art. So Ccrs isn't just funding. Just from that 1%. As you guys may know, there's a earmarked 1% of the remaining 90% that goes to public art. But some capital projects that are funded by Ccrs also help contribute to that. So it bolsters it even more. So.

[34:08] The 3% there is from transportation. The 5% is from the general fund. And really, that general fund portion is we call it Gov tab, the government capital fund. It's technically a separate fund, but the fund is supported and transferred from the general fund. So Peter de Paul kind of thing. But it is technically general fund dollars. and that remaining 3% is the downtown commercial district. And that's specifically for our spruce garage and some public art that we're working to get that going as well. Let's see. Sure. Thank you. And I can't believe you found this fun to put this together. We need to talk about your definition fun, but it's in the word fun. This is this graph in particular is like what also Brendan like I said. Brendan and Jake and Matthew work on like directly work on like managing the public art projects with this funding. There are also a bunch of other funds with the city and a bunch of other support that the city offers that is not even included in this right like to me, I think I estimated a few months ago, is 2 to 3 million dollars of

[35:24] subsidies for Mocha and Chautauqua and the dairy. Right? There are arts programs happening in other departments to like parks and Rec, there's a grant program through the human through. Hhs, yeah, thank you. The Human Relations Fund, right? So this is really talking about the funding where the funding is that we are spent actively spending. But we're also advising. We're also like partnering and working with other departments on other work that isn't like directly money from the desk that we're spending right? Just for some context. Yeah, that's a great point. This is this, these are the dollars that we get to have a lot of say, which is great. So it's a good good amount of

[36:08] effort that we have to put forward. So this is looking at funding by type. And the the orange is kind of the administrative costs and a small caveat on the administrative costs. That is just the arts staff. So no other community vitality staff is funded by arts, culture and heritage. The one exception is, there's that cost allocation which is funding like central finance. Hr, those kind of positions. So really, that's what that admin piece is. So none of the other positions within community vitality are included in this admin picture. Here the grants and sponsorships you can see there in yellow. The reason why public art looks so much bigger is because of all those other funding sources that I just mentioned on the previous slide. It's a it's a significant investment in public art across the entire city. And it shows up in this graph here, and how you can see how those funds are developed.

[37:13] So what does all this mean? Come, September, I'll be coming back with a little bit more information as you guys probably recall from last year what the presentation was for the 2026 budget. I'll be doing the same thing again this year. We're in the process of finalizing our budget. It's actually technically due this Friday. And once that goes to Central Finance, they'll consolidate across the entire organization have internal discussion with with the executive budget team. Excuse me, that's made up of specs from the city manager's office as well as Central budget, and a couple of rotating directors, and they'll be reviewing all submissions across the city to understand kind of what our opportunities are and where we have any trade-offs that are necessary.

[38:07] and then that will then be consolidated. We'll get that information back. Have an opportunity to also discuss with Ebt any findings that they had, and then that will be presented to council. So all of that happens, and then we come back to the Commissioners before Council actually has book for it and ask for your support in the 2026 budget submission that we have going forward. I have a question. Yeah. We had discussed that we were putting in for a adjustment to base request to be. And I just wanted to clarify how the the budget shortfall impacts that or doesn't impact that or has not impacted it. So that we've heard. So that's still going forward. That's kind of the the use of fund balance as a budget reduction, so to speak, is really the approach that we took with the Arts Culture and Heritage Fund specifically to be able to move forward with that adjustment.

[39:11] have a couple of questions. So we wanted to have input on a more expensive budget. We would need to go to city council kind of all of the above. I would say, for the the drafting of said budget before even goes to council. I feel like with what we've done with 3 Esp. Esp. There's so many acronyms trying to remember them all. That's kind of what we've been really leaning heavily into to do budget tracking and I know you guys have all kind of had a good opportunity to work with him. So we've been taking a lot of that input and using that to actually make the draft budget.

[40:01] Once the budget's drafted and gone out to Central Finance. It's kind of like over there now. And then we'll we will get back what they have kind of deemed as like. Yes, let's go forward with this, or they have questions. They need some clarification. So that's that's kind of the internal process, if you will. And then, once Council gets it the the first, st they'll have a presentation. Which is early September. Sorry late August. and then they'll also have a study session. So there's no public comment during the study session. But you are all certainly welcome to attend and always welcome to reach out to council members. But really the 1st time that public participation is available is the 1st reading of the budget which is in October. Thanks. And the second question, when I talked about the fund balance, was there a fund balance from the Arts budget from

[41:06] 2024. And or is there one anticipated for 2025? Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, absolutely. So the the fund balance? It's a fancy way of saying money that's left over. There's nothing in 2024, unfortunately, because the fund didn't exist in 2024, 2025 is the 1st year we actually have the dedicated fund. So at the end of this year, technically, if we didn't spend every single penny we would have a fund balance with the adjustment to base. We're getting pretty close to not having any fund balance, which is good. That means we're programming every single dollar. Of course we don't want to go negative, because then we could fall short of our obligations. So at the end of 2025, we do not anticipate a very large fund balance there always is. It's hard to get every single dollar actually out the door and in people's hands by December 31st times. It's literally a check that just doesn't cash in time. Kind of thing.

[42:04] In 2026 the fund balance will continue to be very close to 0. I would say, we're we're not going to operate at 0, because in the chance that we have sales and use tax projections not come in as we projected, then we would also run into that negative amount. Reserves are really there for those catastrophic emergencies. If we had a fire and we had a flood, those types of things. So we can't really tap into those reserves as a use of fund balance for just general operating purposes. But the reserves are there, for like a rainy day fund is what they're there for. So when I say fund balance, I should clarify that it's fund balance after those reserves have been sorry. And does those roll over, then to the arts? Does the Arts Fund balance and reserve roll over into the arts budget? That's correct. So the next year, beginning fund balance. So how much money do you start the year off with is technically the previous year's ending fund balance plus the previous year's reserve.

[43:16] So next year, let's say, at the end of this year you reserved $300,000, and there was a hundred $1,000 left that didn't spend $400,000. Is your new starting balance going into the next year? So that reserve just kind of carries through. And do you have any experience with our Council? With how they view having a growing reserve in terms of getting our current budgetary needs fulfilled. Do they counteract it, or so. The Council has, some say, into the reserves, but really it's a general a government standard for financing that every fund has a 16.7% reserve

[44:03] they did make a requirement for city to have a 20% reserve in the general fund. That's why it has a little bit different reserve than everyone else. the downtown Commercial District, University Hill. Every single fund that we operate is beholden to that 16.7% as part of the government standard for. But helps. Does that answer your question? I think so. Yeah, it's expected that we'll have a reserve correct. And yeah, and it's not counted against us in our future budgetary assets. That is correct, that's correct. Anybody else. Well, thank you absolutely. We will wait with beated breath for September, whenever I would say, if you get a chance to check out councils presentation that they're going to have here in the near future definitely take a look and give you a little bit more insight, more details into these numbers. So you have a

[45:06] more data. You want to chew on that the the other thing is working with you. We're constantly trying to get projections updated again, not trying to not be too conservative where it's like Whoa, let's not spend money because we're worried and also not like, Oh, we're not worried about money. Let's spend it all right trying to find that happy medium, so that we maintain a healthy balance that we can actually pay our obligations. So I know the the S word in 2027 may have some sundance. We had no idea what you were talking about. I didn't want to say it, but that may have an impact as well. Traditionally, February is not a super high revenue producing from a sales and use tax perspective. So, having an event like sundance, where we attract a lot of hopefully tax aim. Customers will help with that. So

[46:03] so go out and buy both. Thank you. Good. Thank you. All right. Moving on to similar act with the Grants program. Yes. So today, we have community project grants for individuals. As you know, you can approve individual applications, approve all applications, approve individual applications with questions or postpone approval of applications. These are those floors. Can we speak up a little bit? Okay? Sorry. Yeah. These are those floors. This is the perfect yeah. I can share, since I sat on as Commissioner of with the Grants Panel, that these selected applications represent a pretty diverse range of artistic visions from visual arts to music, to theater.

[47:07] There's a documentary in there. pure publication. So felt like that was neat to see. Yeah, a pretty diverse array of projects. I mentioned this in the last meeting, but one of the couple things that came up during the process was the Grants panel wanting a little bit more clarity in the future around what constitutes a project. You can have a start and ending versus being an ongoing operation, and then definitely felt like a lot of the applicants could have benefited from more training around. setting clear goals and ways to measure their goals through their evaluation. So I know that can be something that the Commission thinks about how we can support individual artists in future. Thank you, Jill, I have a question. Just in relation to our prior speakers. Points. Was there consideration. And what was the process around deciding or down to drop it? Or what was that? I mean? Yeah, it was very competitive, and it was

[48:17] from my, you can help me with it, like there's really only one that ends up jumping from being below, from the original scoring. And yeah, some of these conversations around types of projects and evaluations and goals and clarity of goals. yeah, was, that was a part of that conversation, for sure, and I don't think that the that is why the the rubric exists to help create some some way to measure a variety of different opinions. So it wasn't just like across the board again, there's like, these are the 5. It was like, these are all great, you know. And how do we measure them against each other.

[49:08] I'll add that there was profound disappointment that we couldn't fund more projects. Yeah, this is really strong projects this year. Commission liaisons, basically for for the panels. I I personally feel very removed from the process this year. Given the the new reforms panelists. And yeah, that's just thank you for volunteer. I think I think I'm up for the next one. So thank you for doing that. And did we do the kind of line that we normally do like above the 19 low would be 9. This type of rep. I would say no, because of how competitive it was. We didn't have to.

[50:00] I don't think there was one that they wouldn't recommend. I go back and ask them, but essentially they wanted to run as far down as as they could for wise. All right, we have motion language. Pardon me. great Really like to make motion. I'll move that we approve the following organizations for the 2025 community project grants for individuals, Julia Shawa, Nathan Story, Erin Preston Graham Fuller, and Abby Phillips. Awesome great. Any further discussion, all in bigger. That's unanimous. Thank you. Thank you. And because we received an adjustment to base, we have additional organizations that we can fund with general operating support grants.

[51:06] The Commission may approve all of the grants for the panel's recommendation, approve individual grants, approve individual grants while submitting specific questions or postpone approval of individual grants pending the answers to specific questions. and I will say that the panel did recommend a score threshold for this time. There was only one extra large application as you recall. So that's not relevant. And so these are the scores for the large organizations. And can you explain in the packet there's like light green, and then dark green, or I guess purple on here. So on the Powerpoint slide. Here the green rows are those that have been awarded funding already, and the purple is those recommended for at this meeting.

[52:04] These are the scores for the mid organizations, high scores in this category. and then, finally, the small organizations given the threshold on these, what? What was the score for the extra large organization? There was just the one 27.8. Okay, thank you. That's that's good perspective. Yeah. thank you. Would you like to see the other? So there's 3, and then the next slide it has the both language. Would you like me to go back to any of the other scores if we can just kind of scroll through each one. Just see the add-ons. Okay, so I'll start talking. So we have large knit mid size and then small. These are the large. And

[53:14] it's probably exciting different. Good news. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's great organizations kind of being brought in the world on that great. Would anybody like to make a motion? The following organizations for 2025 general operating support grants, compass, Renaissance, open studios, boulder, symphony and Music Academy ars, Nova chamber singers, company, blue principle, turning the wheel productions, Inc boulder, chambers, orchestra, boulder, concert band. Right? Second, any further discussion going through that. It's unanimous. Thank you. Oh, sure, it's

[54:04] now we have 2 arts, education grant reports you can approve both reports approved individual reports while submitting questions, postpone approval of individual reports, pending questions, or not anything anybody wants to pull out for a separate deck decision which one, let's see. But he'd like to make a motion. I move that we approve the Grants reports from the count amounts, and Colorado, Shakespeare Festival. Any discussion on these I will say that the person who oversees the oh. the violence prevention program within the schools regionally for the Colorado Shakespeare festival. Her name is Amanda, and she has her new book, which was released this week with this as an example of case study.

[55:05] It's really exciting for them and for her. Yeah. I was really excited by both the the reports. Obviously. I just look back at my principal programming and how instrumental that was. Yeah. participating in the arts and being interest in the arts. And and I just think they're both really amazing. So I was glad they were successful. I really appreciate how was very nimble and really adjusted their programming to each kid's special needs or nuances and personality. And Shakespeare is just very timely and needed for students Shakespeare and really talked about incredible programs. How did they decide on the schools that they participate in?

[56:04] I don't recall. One of them was in Douglas and Whittier can't remember the application. Sometimes it comes down to the proactiveness of whichever teacher is running the program. I can't. I can't recall from that particular that particular application. and I know that there's been growing difficulty getting into older schools. But I didn't see that reference to either. Their demo. All right, all in theater. It. That's you need the rest. Thank you. Alright, thank you. Great. And then, sir, are you gonna run the liaisons or 20 wants to talk about?

[57:11] Well, I suppose, since you've oh, sorry. This was an initial draft assignment of general operating support liaison roles again. These are all organizations that would be funded this year with our general operating support grants. There's a maybe on jlf, Colorado, just highlighted because they have not submitted their recertification. This is certainly amendable. It was put together with the interest of trying to accommodate people's requests, a mix of large and small organizations, and I wanted each Commissioner to have a new organization. So how about it? Exactly. Yeah. I was really hoping to get all new organizations, if possible. So if the ones that I will be that I've already spent 4 years with this 3rd law boulder, Samba school, Kgnu and teaching dance.

[58:17] And they're great organizations. Nothing against them. But I would love the opportunity to have I? Yeah. I don't. I don't know that. So it'd be interested to get to know them, but I'd be willing to trade one of those, for, for you know, 3rd block to 2 or- or any of the dance books. Cool, are they? What size is? Mariposa? Okay, so that would be like, yeah, sure I'm sorry. Oh, cheryl cheryl, Hi, cheryl. Hey? I'm not complaining because it's a great organization, and I know the Ed. And she's great. But I got junkyard, and I didn't know if that was a choice of Jill's or not.

[59:05] Central dude. Yeah, it was brought to my attention without was a thought for this year was that somebody else did. Okay, I'm I'm perfectly happy to take it. I just didn't know if it was unintentional. As long as it's done with intentionality. That's fine. Yes. and and then, Jill as e-town as a venue. Would you benefit from potentially liaising with them to to to work with with. I I've met with them. There's not much I can help them with. I mean, yeah, like, yeah, honestly, it's great for me to build relationships with any of the organizations and the ones that I volunteered to to work with. Sometimes it's because they already have partnerships with them, and it feels like an opportunity to develop it even further. But I agree like being able to talk to them about just financial side.

[60:11] So I just unceremoniously, I'm just doing that. Can I take our parts and need to? I want to sit down with Megan, do some coaching. And I met the new director at the new globe. Yeah. Yeah. She moved to that. I have her tonight. She's fantastic. Yeah, how do you feel about that? I just got that was shared with before. And and I was. I got to introduce until this last year, and that's just lobby for that one looking for other trade. Yeah, I know I was. I was the 1st financial institution 3 years ago, coming as a sponsor. But now they have 4 sponsors. Hey, this is important. Yeah, let's support this. So I've I've really enjoyed

[61:02] doing that. I would love being. I'm going to interact with them regardless. So if you really want that, no, it was just an idea. Okay. yeah, you're like, can I go poach some of your legs? Catamel sounds interesting. What phones are they? How many mid or large, maybe for Kgnu? Oh, thank you. Think they would. They would appreciate the new building and stuff again. Okay, cool. Is anybody else interested in trading into it? Yeah, which one live training. Yeah. Live training. Oh, get rid of them, love them.

[62:04] The only thing I'm thinking of, and it's it's really just my cultural heritage. And feeling a little connected to it right now in boulder is Guy. I don't know if you have contacts at the Jcc. Cause I'd be happy to take that. But I don't know if I have anything that you're interested in, and I'm not not happy with everything I got. If that makes sense. You're not not happy. I'm not not happy. Yes, I am happy right. That's anyway. I'm happy. Carol. I see you have Colorado, Shakespeare festival. Keep in mind. I'm on that board also, so they get double up on us. And are you happy with that like? Are you fine? But I think I'm already on the board. There's 0 1. Jcc. Yes, but I might. Be protected with some of my others. So let's see what. You know I will take from your list if you feel like you have too many. I'm happy to take local theater.

[63:06] Oh, I love their account. That was what I was most excited. That was my new one. Okay. Local theater was my new theater that I was excited about, but I'm being very demanding now. I don't know. Have a hard bargain. That's good. Oh, have you had Betsy before. Yes, I have had Betsy before. By the way, Butterfly Effect Theater is now boulder, boulder, ensemble theater company again. Butterfly effect that's face it to you. I'm already on the I'm already on the board, so if they have double up, I'm fine with them, actually having 2 voices. hey anymore. I'll take Samba if you take turning the wheel. Sure, there you go too easily, so

[64:08] we'll get there. And so, Sarah, what are the next steps for this connection email to all of the organizations with all the Commissioners. Yeah, introductory. Yeah. And we don't need a vote just to like nodding like, we're full with this. I believe it's like general consensus. And how many more are we bringing more bringing into the fold this year? Given the expansion of dos support like 20? That's I know it's a lot more. which is very exciting. Actually, yeah, yeah, yeah. cool. You guys, happy like Christmas. And then, finally, we're going to host an extra summit this year, based on the knowledge that

[65:03] there should be some advice on how to draft a Grant application, particularly for Project Grant. So we're going to be hosting that at University Memorial Center on August 21, st and we have one in October expanding your reach. I like that title. It's about marketing, and maybe we'll be related to sundance in some way with business right? Perfect for the Grant writing one the intended audience of that is that individual artists is that organizations is okay, is it just development directors? Not specific? Is it specific to our grant program? Yes. Okay, that's good to know. Thank you. How to write a compelling narrative for grant applications, and how to have measurable goals but for ours. Specifically. Thank you. Very cool. great. Thank you very much. Excellent Brenda. All right. Public art, hey? Public art? It's Chris Roth. Great.

[66:07] Hello! So Lauren's gonna pull up our presentation. and I'm going to just give a quick little introduction. This is Chris Roth. He's a contractor who I hire to assist and lead some transportation related public art projects. He's worked with 9 dot arts before founding cr projects. A Denver based art advisory firm where he is the principal. He has over 11 years experience in the arts industry, including projects at the Colorado Convention Center, Denver Theater district and numerous commercial properties in Colorado and nationwide. So he's going to be kind of leading a couple of these transportation projects. and this is one that he will start with. I'll be kind of mentoring, because it's different, public and private, or sort of different processes. And of course Jake will also be assisting. But, Chris, go ahead, take it away.

[67:00] Awesome thanks for the introduction. Brendan. So we are looking to get approval to move forward on a couple of public art locations which we've identified on the Bear Creek, Greenway trail. So basically, we, we were able to seek out a couple of areas. Which are near Baseline road. Essentially, it's 2 underpass locations. Each one with kind of 2 2 2 main walls as kind of the entries on each side of the underpasses. So essentially, it's 4 walls, 2 locations. As part of the trail. But we we think it's a great opportunity for something like a mural or a mosaic application. On these, on these underpass walls that would be outwardly facing the bikers and pedestrians that frequent the trail. We we have

[68:06] you know, put together a potential panel with with voting and nonvoting members, including a technical review committee. So yeah, looking looking to get all of that approved this evening. Just jumping ahead. we have kind of compiled a total budget. For for these locations. I think it's on the on the oh, yeah, here we go. Of $125,000 all inclusive for all of our all of our expenses here. Brendan, do you want to talk a little bit about how we kind of came up with that number? Just sort of kind of combining some other budgets that that we had in play. So our policy allows us. If there's several projects within a close area, it allows us to combine those budgets for more impact and a streamlined process. So we're actually combining roadway improvement funds from 28th in Colorado roadway, baseline roadway improvement, and the Middle 30th project. So those projects 28th in Colorado is already completed. So I'm not sure if you know that intersection. There's new crosswalks and bull outs, and

[69:16] that project was completed. We were too late to actually integrate any arc that location, and if you drive by, you'll notice there's not really good locations, for our transportation projects are kind of a tricky one. The baseline roadway and Middle 30th are gearing up and kicking off. Those, again are more sort of bull outs, crosswalks, streetlights. I walked the site with Erica Amador, who's our senior transportation planner and Brian Wiltshire? Again, we couldn't locate. We couldn't figure out how we would integrate some of these transportation projects. So we decided to combine these 3 budgets for a total of 125,000 and then we also have already gotten approval for the locations that we've identified. So the next couple of slides will be you'll see we can go back to the slide if you want, but if you want to go to the next slide.

[70:09] So these are the locations we're talking about. These are still within, you know, owned sort of maintained by transportation. So they have final approval on these locations. But again, looking at these sites, we thought this would be a perfect like these entryways. They're not that pretty right. So if we can add some paint and add some tile, we think we can make this, you know, a much more enjoyable space for our pedestrians and our cyclists. So this is where we've been approved to spend the funds for this public art project, and we can go back to the other slide. Yeah. And and I think I think the nice thing about these locations, too, is they are. They are already built. There's no construction plan for them. You know, minimal like need for any kind of like site improvements or cleanup. So they are ready to go like very much as you saw in need of of some improvements. So I think they're great opportunities to

[71:07] you know. Have have some some new artwork. You know as as we've as we've been able to budget from from some of these other locations. So so just kind of breaking out the budget a little bit further. So so we'd like to put together a call for entry, where? Which for? For the 2 locations. with a total budget per location of $55,000. Again, I think the the idea is that we would have, you know, single artists kind of approach, like, you know, each underpass as a single location, even though it's kind of the 2 walls on the on the 2 entry sides. you know, we've got our honorarium budget put together for which would allow for 4 proposals. You know, we've we've accounted for panel stipends and and the cost of the of the online call for entry. Also, of course, built in a little bit of contingency, as as is often needed in these sort of things, looking to kind of kick things off in in the 3rd quarter of this year we've got our our community selection panel of

[72:14] of Jeffrey, of Artie Sandstone, who's a local artist, Gwen, who, you, of course, heard from earlier, Hi Gwen Scott Mccary, who is a community member, and also the Director of Transportation services for the University of Colorado, Boulder, and Laura Hendrickson, who is a community member who lives nearby the locations. I've also got our technical review committee of Erica Amador, Brian, Wiltshire, and Mark Garcia. Let me go to the visuals again. If you want Anybody have any questions, any questions on any of this. Question of the budget assume that, you know we've all seen those underpasses that are applying for graffiti. So if they are tagged.

[73:02] great question. So we would. Once the art is installed, our program would maintain the artwork. So if it's so, if it's any tile or any additional paint, and if those areas get tagged or defaced, we would have our maintenance budget deal with the art once it gets beyond the art locations. If it's more of a structural issue with the bridge that goes back to transportation. Do you have funds in your budget to maintain it? Or do you need to take them out of this we do have, we do have an allocation every year which will pay for maintenance. So we're not. We're not actually using 1% dollars for. and that was part of their entire inventory, that that they they came in and did like a year or 2 ago, and really just started going. Okay, what art do we own? What's the responsibility of it, you know? Who's who's maintaining it? And do we have a a

[74:03] for lack of better term a not a budget, but a fund. What's the word I'm looking for? This is growing the collection. So I understand that the assessment was done that some pieces were moved over. But this is obviously a new piece. So fun you have is adequate. Yeah. Yeah. Any other questions or comments on the panel or locations or budget allocation. Sure. How you know how in some big cities they have right, like the elephants of like New York City, your mom, who went to all the cities. How are things like that? If something like that is to be brought to folder? How would something like that funded versus

[75:06] great question, too. So these, again, these are 1% of those capital improvement projects which we allocate. And we actually go out and commission site specific, unique, permanent network density. those existing artworks, you know, artists of existing artworks they want to display temporarily in city parks or in other venues. that if they did want to do that, they would come and present to our standing selection panel. So our standing selection panel is a group. Maria actually serves on that panel, and there's 4 other community members who serve on that panel. They deal with donations of public art. So if somebody wants to donate a work to the city. They review that, or against our criteria to see if it's we can place it somewhere and afford to maintain it. They also take care of deaccessioning of artwork. So any of these artworks that we install that are permanent something starts to fail. We really can't maintain it any longer. They're the 1st panel to review the accession and out of the collection, and then finally to your point. It's the temporary work. So somebody had an existing work they wanted to display in boulder, they would come to a standing selection panel, present standing selection, panel, review against criteria

[76:19] all kinds of logistical concerns, and then make a recommendation that would come back to the solution generally, they still. And so experiments of public art is our sort of our temporary art program. They are the ones that sort of manage that process. Generally speaking, they're looking for works that really have a connection to boulder or have connection to boulder and are can be site specific or tell a kind of a bigger social story for Boulder is that that's kind of what I that's how I how the panel sort of operates. So there is definitely a process.

[77:00] Yeah. And then this particular project, the the 2, the 2 locations for the $55,000 budget that's gonna be for artists. Well, yeah, we were thinking it might be we could do it. And this comes down to our orientation meeting with our panel. Do we want to do one call where it's 1 artist who does all 4 locations for art, or would or does it make more sense to have 2 calls where there's 1 artist per location. So those sorts of little details like that will kind of flesh out as we. I'll drop the call. Any other comments or questions. No, alright, thank you. Anybody like to make motions. The Bear Creek, Greenway Trail, public art, Selection, panel and project initiation be recommended to the city manager.

[78:03] All in favor don't have to abstain, because I'm on. Okay. Great thanks. Chris. Yeah. Thank you so much. You know. Wonderful. All right, Lauren. Hi, what's a very quick blueprint update So no emails have gone out, as you may have noticed. I hope you've all noticed I've been very, very curious. We are in the amassing information, like essentially the cats are working on their phase. One recommendations and then report At this point they've gone through their community engagement process for phase one, they've looked at a ton of national best practices and other communities are, and they've also looked at our citywide goals. So to try to get all of those to like integrate, to fit together both for more citywide recommendations and for the budget process.

[79:09] they are in town next Monday and Tuesday they'll be talking to the advisory committee to talk through the 1st round or like second round of phase, one recommendations. But first, st they spoke about the Grant program specifically to get their back. and they'll also be kicking off phase 2. So meeting with staff and visiting venues, phase 2 is really focused on public art in particular. on venues, and how venues might need to be supported for the Sunday Film Festival. What else we need to do for the Sundance Film Festival and then also just policy, bigger comprehensive planning, economic policy and and tightening up the Grant program and specifically working with staff like Sarah on building out the Grant program. the newest prep program, right?

[80:00] So we haven't had any updates, because they've been sort of working behind the scenes at this moment. I think the next public update I think the next public update. I hope to give a presentation to the Arts Commission, not being the budget, but but with recommendations from phase one or content recommendations in August to then bring to you. Sorry, everybody, we'll be done soon. So commission in August to give some initial like feedback input, recommendations from the consultants, which will then feed into this budget recommendation that goes to city leadership, city council, etc, etc. To then come back to you for a vote on a 26 budget. Right? So first, st we'll just be talking about like, here's big ideas, big recommendations for phase one But at this point, it's more like a I'm digging through all of this data that we've given that and that they've discovered to. Yeah, does anybody have any questions or faster. Input.

[81:03] Was there anything surprising? No, I don't know. Not necessarily. Well, I think the surprise all of us was sundance, because we kind of went like, we have to actually, really think about this big impact that's going to have on the city and on the arts community. But in a really positive way. It was like a very, very happy surprise. affordability is a big concern, like the the things that come up to the top. We tend to hear a lot, because we hear from all of you as commissioners, right? And I think we're plugged into the community enough to understand what you need. But it'll be just the the planning for this like big impact. And positive. Right? Yeah. a couple of surprises for me were comparison to fear cities. Yeah. That in some areas they're either surpassing or fair cities that you were compared to last time, finding new fear cities. So that was interesting to see that, and also what other, what other cities are doing. And I think just their overall kind of refresh. Look at the Grants program. Looks very, very say 50,000 foot, and I think that's a good

[82:18] refresh. Those are the 2 surprises, that's see. Thanks, everybody. Thank you. Any questions about the managers. Sorry, very chatty on the venues. Maybe you talked about this a little bit the last on page 13. Well, we're your second to last day. So Talk about the new lease of the dairy center. I wonder if you could update us on that? And then also about collecting data on the arts venues. Oh, sorry, but the dairy lease is still in progress, so we can't have any updates, I'm sorry to say, but it's in discussion. It's in progress. I'll certainly bring anything forward as.

[83:13] and then spearheading the news research. I have some preliminary feedback from the venue user questionnaire that we had available. And it's not surprising. A lot of what we found from that study is just like there's not enough space. And or there's not enough time when the space that people need is available. And it's like all of from all of the disciplines.

[84:02] and so what we're doing now is looking at all the spaces that we have and trying to get updated information. We're working on a cultural asset map. Thank you. So that'll just like map all of the cultural assets in the city which will include venues, and to look at kind of where we are at with. You know what kind of venues we have, and how that compares to the feedback that we got users, and then just to connect the 2 conversations. So this this will fold into the blueprint. Yes, and could there potentially be a recommendation for yeah, new venues, separate venues? Yeah, something, whatever. Whatever we might be able to do with the city. the city facilities plan, which was like the public like

[85:01] how it fits into the comprehensive plan and and conflict policies. Right? I think there's a lot of bigger pieces that having the search data and how people will use our space is going to be very helpful to tell us where we need to go with that. And also there are some organizations that are interested in the city that are interested in creating some more things that are just like for profit. So this is like, Hey, look, there's a need. So. But you know that in mind, maybe maybe that was for them to do more. Thank you. It's my pleasure. They have a question. Let me ask for the border earth suite. specific dialogue and handling. How does one get involved? Let's see. Yeah. And well, I'm actually for well, I've done it 2 years. So I'm not like a old.

[86:09] But I'm starting earlier this year, because, like Cu, they plan stuff out way in advance. So meeting actually have meeting tomorrow with our contact at Cu to get them kind of plugged in. So we can do some more programming complementary, or at least like, figure out if they can start planning things to happen during that week. Yeah, it's usually like the week after. Yeah. And we've partnered with cwa on a couple of things this year was a little. It's changed in the last couple of years from what it used to be so trying to figure out where we can fit in. But yeah, I'm happy to chat with how? Yeah, if you want to get involved, I want to be involved. Yeah, we have a we have a steering committee that you would be awesome on. Thank you. Yes, you're in. But anybody who wants to get involved can totally email me@bouldercorado.gov.

[87:12] what are the dates? April 3.rd Through the 11.th Something like that? Yeah. thank you. Thank you. Alright. I have one other issue that goes back to our grants and the community projects for individual decisions. Yeah, I'm I. I was thrilled to see that we were bringing so many other organizations into the fold for Gios support. And then we said, we created a threshold for that, and really basically left no one out. So I'm asking as a question, what is the possibility or feasibility that the same may happen for the individual projects

[88:04] to be funded with a threshold, given the same consideration as the Gos support. And is there a timeline for that? Is there a possibility? Is there a timeline? So I did submit that request. It was denied by who want to have the extra. but it was like a $300,000 request. We received an approval for one. That said again, if an organization doesn't submit their decertification or there's other possible things that I can foresee happening this Grant cycle and the reviewers discussed today, Maria going to talk to that they they really would like more community project, transfer individuals to be.

[89:02] But they're back it. Yeah. yeah. I think the panel today. Again, the quality of the grants they read today and just had to observe them discussing. They're they're very high and they would be interested. I think you being a recommendation if there's additional thoughts on how to. Okay, because obviously they've read the form. I'd love for that to kind of be top of mind when we're when we're looking at at additional funding. So the word things that aren't funded otherwise. and you'll be privy to that discussion further, actually, very soon. Yes, I know. In July. Correct. Yes. July 27.th Something like that. Yeah. If there is any additional funding that we can identify, I would say by the next Commission meeting we would be able to provide some of that information. If we can experience. Okay, wonderful, right? So we got possibility. Timeline. Thank you. We will certainly look into it. See what we can do. And then any outcomes of changes to current recipients.

[90:06] Well, we can certainly talk about that. And then you have another. I just wanted to reiterate Maria's request. Please come on down. There is a public art lecture series, Saturday at 2, Sunday at 3, at the Canyon Auditorium in the main library parking on the Arapahoe side, because it's a construction, but you'll see her big flowers oversized flowers. Her lecture is going to be amazing, and also, if you haven't already signed up for our public art tours. Saturday mornings at 9, Wednesday evenings at 5 30, pretty much most Saturdays and Wednesdays throughout the summer, and this year we're adding 2 Spanish language Tours, one at the end of July and one in August. So if you have Spanish language, people in your lives direct them to come and take a Spanish language, public art tour. So with that we'll adjourn our meeting.