October 19, 2022 — Boulder Arts Commission Retreat

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

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[6:04] doing some weird rituals. I don't know what I was. This is not drinking. These are not drinking water. They don't know. Yeah, I will. How many times a day is the so important. My time. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I needed. I'm excited to come to Robert. Yeah, it's. We got one hundred and eighty people our with sixty-two on the waiting.

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[8:16] oh, I did that when I was younger. I'll never have another chance, and they gave me that chance. And now I can't wait to use it for Halloween. Uh, for pretty much any of this. We're a t-two it's nice people were as friendly as they were my all. I was wondering, you know, you know. Yeah, He was like a couple of other things.

[9:04] Okay, Is she guys sure you want to do the this thing, or do you want to wait you and out if you want? That's fine. I just thought i'd give you the opportunity to not do it if you didn't want to do it. But some words behind it. Okay, Um, If only I had again, I can't start the meeting with our non-water thus begins tonight's meeting of the Boulder Arts Commission. Um, let's see. So

[10:02] I apo i'm. So not pretty hard. I was enjoying my give me one second, I apologize. All eighty. So first thing the city of Boulder Arts Commission acknowledges the city is on the ancestral homelands and unseeded territory of indigenous people who have traversed, lived in and stewarded lands in the Boulder Valley since time immemorial. Those indigenous nations include the Apache, Arapaho, Cheyenne, Comanche Kiowa Pawnee Shoshoni, Su and you. Thank you. So our first order of business tonight is to approve the agenda,

[11:02] Matt: so I don't have any amendments to the agenda, but I did want to point out two things. Um! It's first of all, that Nurio sends her apologies. She's out of town right now, otherwise she would have wanted to join us so um for the future. But she and you know, happy to see the results great. And then I was going to ask Mandy to make an announcement, But we'll have to do that later. All right. Um! Is there a motion to approve the anything you do? I have a second? Thank you, Kathleen um Any discussion uh call for a vote? All those in favor anybody opposed. The motion passes unanimously. Thank you. So matters from Commissioners uh Caroline Maria. We didn't decide who was going to speak, but I can give it a shot.

[12:01] Alright, So Maria and I have spoken with Matt a little bit about our game plan on this on um sort of taking some proactive movement as a commission in relation to the discriminatory practices that we heard of in some of our our planned reports of the last couple of months, and what we have honed in on, and i'll preface this by by saying I'll, I'll let you guys know what our game plan is, and then the end. What we would really like to do is get some clarity as to whether we have permission to speak to the Human Relations Commission on behalf of the Arts Commissioner, or whether it will be preferable to have us do that as individuals, so within that context. Um. What we have identified are uh is a three prompt approach to what we would like to suggest. We work on with the Hrc. The Human Resource Relations Commission, the first being Um,

[13:03] A a statement for our website under which we would list resources available for artists who are facing these types of apps. Um. Secondly, uh, that we partner with the Hrc. Is developing a more fully fleshed out policy statement of the Earth Commission toward these types of actions. And thirdly, um working with the Hrc. Actions, such as workshops or education opportunities something like that. Anything you would add to those forms. No, I think that's good, you know. And also we talked about maybe modus partnering with motives or something like this one of the arts groups. So our plan of action at this point is that we've identified the correct person being the staff member at the Hrc. Who we should sort of coordinate our top level thinking with um, so

[14:05] we will not have enough time to do the October meeting, but the November twenty first Hrc. Meeting, Maria and I plan to be there um myself virtually uh probably virtually, but virtually um. We expect that we get two or three minutes each to present um, so we've split up what we'd like to say we'd like to present to the Commission and encourage them to partner with us. Um! And we our planning to split up topics on just explaining what happened, why we were activated as a group to address this um a little bit about our philosophy that we advocate and support diversity, and inclusive of this and expression for the arts. Um, And so that we think that that's an important thing to provide. Um. We are gonna point out the portions both in our function as an Arts Commission under the older county, older city code, as well as the cultural plan that support us. Doing this type of venture. Um, we'll outline the three prom approach that we just talked about. Invite them to work with us, and then, uh, if we have time, also make a pitch for how this type of work gets into

[15:26] function of the human relations. So that is our roadmap, for now and then i'm certain as we get more feedback, you know. People and commission will have more. So all over with you and work through with you guys. Also. Does anybody have any questions? I do have a question. How would you like the Human Relations Relationship Commission? Um to partner with the I? I think that would be up for discussion. What they think that they can provide.

[16:00] I would expect that they spend a lot more time delving into this type of work philosophically, and can provide some guidance and not making us rewrite. You know we create the wheel. I think that what what I expect to find and and i'm open minded to what we find. But what I expect to find is that the forward thinking workshops and education are more aligned with their direct mission. Um! And I think we talked a little bit about it at the last meeting, whether that, whether we felt that that was part of our review at all, but I think that That may be something that's, you know, more heavily loaded on there on their mission. So yeah, let's say, you know we did look at the um, the cultural master plan. And um, we did find four points that really directly support, you know, expression of artists in the community. And uh, you know, going backwards, we think this kind of bullying is um

[17:04] um hurting the places around the country that have any like existing stuff like this. Yeah, I've looked at the um some of the arts and in the midwest, and they've done some reports and white papers on these type of things. But um certainly could look more broadly, nationally, but I I think, just based on you know, the work we've been talking about, I think, working with our local community and our local resources. It's the first step. Yeah, I was. I was more curious than anything I had done a cursor research, and I think I emailed everybody that link to something that happened up in four columns. I was just curious if there was like a an unfortunate upward tick in this kind of stuff. Well, I, as you all know. Probably it's upward chicken across our society, and anybody expressing their opinion anything. And it's obviously filtering down through the arts. I think

[18:12] all right. Any other questions or concerns or comments. I i'm curious about your process. The The staff received statements from them, and had asked some questions, and those were shared with the commission. Okay, and I think they were, if I may. It seemed like they were very appreciative of the fact that the Arts Commission reached out. I wanted to know what like exactly what? All right. Great? Well, it's important that we serve as a resource for for artists, and you know this kind of stuff is right up our alley. So thank you for for doing the work. Yeah. Question for you, Bruce. And the rest of the Commission is when we go to the Human Resource Commission,

[19:02] Should we represent ourselves as individuals, or can we move forward and represent ourselves as part of the Commission? Uh, Yeah, they can't just be my whim right? Exactly. You should get it on the record. Yeah, okay. Would somebody like to to make that motion cool? It can be just for what it's worth. Extend that and other places this this matter of Yes, um discrimination against, based on whatever

[20:02] all those in favor. Thank you. The motion passes unanimously. Thank you, everybody, and thank you for the the work you both are doing. Appreciate it. Thanks for this work. Oh, ready? Well, uh that. Can not our business meeting? Um, I guess I should ask. Is there any thing that anybody else would like to bring up while we're still in the business part of our meeting. Just to be fair, add to my my request. Um! I would like to keep this business meeting as short as possible just to have as much time as possible for the retreat. But if there was something that was glaring that you wanted to,

[21:03] can we discuss the during the that that could be. I don't think it will be that time. Yeah, I think we can include that. It will be true. Yes, okay, cool. Alright, um, so I can never remember. I don't think you guys have ever voted to return. All right. So, Matt, do you mind if I start the introductions, for I would love for you. Okay, there are two special introductions. And so first is that, as many of you know, the staff likes to during the retreat, express our appreciation for the work that you do. Uh, you volunteer to do some very difficult work, some very thoughtful work represent the community. That means a lot to us, and we really couldn't function without that happening. And so we like to give you a gift,

[22:14] and the gift is always a piece of art. And so to tell you more about that, Mandy, Would you like to make your introduction? It's like we have Jeff join us? This is Jeff. He might wander around a little, because he has many, many talents, but one of which was, It was in a staff meeting that we said maybe we could get some courtroom schedules. And so that is how we are gifting you this evening. Uh, there's a chance that that you just get started today and might finish tomorrow. But the seven is a pretty high feature amount of time. Um! But do you want to tell us a little bit about yourself and your creative practice, too. I Yeah, sure. Um.

[23:01] I've been doing the courtroom schedule for quite a few years since about one thousand nine hundred and eighty-six. That's one of those things like this sort of fell into. I've never done anything like it before, but um! I had just started my business, and I was looking for any kind of work I could get, so it's uh lucky to find it. Gosh! What is that? Thirty, Some years I guess thirty-eight years, something like that, and it's been uh, you know, nothing new, which is a job you like those years between. But uh, they're always pretty fun. So yeah, Yeah. But again, as we were looking at kind of how we could find the art of thinking about some of those spaces where we might not consider it to be a higher in our form, or you know, just don't think about how many facets in it is a working world that you can actually touch on. Our

[24:04] Yeah, that would be my. I would say that when they first, when I got my first job way back in one thousand nine hundred and eighty-six. Yeah, at the time I went into it with the attitude that Oh, that'd be a fun sort to tell my grand get something, you know. I can't believe i'm still doing it. But they're still um a need for it. I guess I don't know um sketch any famous cases we would know about. Yeah, yeah, I have um couple of years ago, you know. Taylor Swift got um. This handled. I guess it a meeting great, And it was.

[25:00] It was world by news. I couldn't believe that I couldn't. When they told me what the case was, I didn't believe they had been Federal board, and that they were asking me to come down, and but um! I got a lot of flag for that, because for them was full of her fans. They were merciless. And uh, I I mean the things just blew up um all over the place, you know all my lunch time. Any free time I was, you know answering calls from all over the place. Um! This was kind of neat, except that it was all about, and that that was maybe the hardest thing I've ever had to do is after that first initial thing you go back in to the courtroom, and you have to sit down and do it all over again. All this stuff is going on out there with all these, you know. Just deal with it, I was thinking, since we are gonna have it sounds like kind of a short night here,

[26:07] if it'd be all right with people if I could just take pictures of you over, you know, while you're sitting there and everything. And that way I could work on this, and it won't probably be the one I would like to find a Yeah, everybody okay, with that, except for mid by, I only need of what I'm reading, you know, and we do have one attorney in the audience. So uh your past my cross again. We're We're very appreciative to have you here tonight, and thank you for your willingness to help you, and thank you so much. You have a website that you can share with me, and you can share with us. Yeah, yeah, Never thought of it. Um, yeah. But uh, my last name is Andy Bob, and it's still just like it Sounds like they are just like Candy bar.

[27:16] But there's I. I I put a bunch of uh courtroom stuff on there, including Taylor Swift. That has been improved, you know. Once I got out of the court it's It's waiting to go in there at eight o'clock in the morning. You don't know what you're going to be drawn, or most of the time it's you can look up it for here, plus you, We're different every single day. So you don't really have a good idea. And whatever you get to when they take their first break it's going on national Tv, you know, and that's pretty daunting this.

[28:07] So, hopefully, this is gonna be a little bit more relaxed, man. I hope it is for you, too. Yeah, we're not a crowd, so we appreciate you being here very much. Um. So next, if it's okay, I want to introduce Dylan um from Spark to welcome you to space Right? I feel like I know you. I feel like you really know I've I've been in a number of times. You probably gone through it. I'm i'm d in my pronounce, or she first thanks for coming to the start. We're really happy to have you here. I think you guys were here before Covid. So a lot of changed in our space. So um, this is Brad. He's one of our board members. We are going primarily run by volunteers at this point in time. So Brad is here. He's in our shows. It's not as our company manager, Nicky. So we just kind of wrote them into performing, so you may have seen them on stage,

[29:00] and if you have it uh stuff stuff to know about that Um, we're doing very often, so that we would love to come you to come and see Harry Potter a little coupon code on our little flyers, so see our shows. Um, we are multi generational. So there's children in it, teenagers mostly for this one all the way up into a built. So it's all different features. Um! And of course it's my pop, and who doesn't like that? Um. But also we uh rent out our space right now. Community tai chi is doing tai chi class in there. Well, the performing arts just lots. So lots of people use our space. We've got somebody from roots, which is right down the the the place using our space on Saturday night. They're having a party for the founder. Something like that. So it's everybody. Just use it for whatever they want. So we're just really glad you guys are here. Let us know if you have any questions. Um, you want to use this space, or we just want to see a show. We love you as a close. That's that's my true love. So,

[30:02] and after this meeting that i'll go home and tell your friends and family that you are on stage tonight. I just want to get Dylan another set up for For the past forty years I've been the Ceo of the world's largest destination Experience Company operating in four hundred locations on six continents, and I thought i'd seen it all. You know what people can do to make a destination unique. And then my kids started getting involved with spark. You know, I was dropping my kids off and come into the shows, and I really got to know it, and it it it's true. You need to boulder. I mean, there's nothing else like this place. It's it's sucked me in, because again a guy like me that has never performed ever high school college, never a chance to be on stage. And I think that's getting better. Yeah. Well, what's been amazing is just a mentor model that they bring to every performer at this point I mean professional actors to college in terms to amazing kids. So I've seen it through the lens of, you know, Performer. Now, I've seen it through the lens of a parent dropping my kids off the safe, you know, inclusive, welcoming space. So we really want to thank you guys all for being here. We want to be

[31:10] much a much bigger part of this community. So that's one of the reasons we've expanded before. That's one of the reasons I volunteered to come on board, because this story is so good. We just want to make sure that everybody hears it, and the best way to start is come to see Mary pop it! I love to have you. We'd love to have you. So. Thank you again for having me Thank you both for um. So along those lines of the artist who is in attendance tonight, I like you all, have I I've served on the the Commission for a number of years now, and I've received these art gifts every year, and then much appreciative, and it's been wonderful getting local pieces of art. Um,

[32:01] and I wanted to do something for staff. So if you'll humor me for just a second, I took the liberty of making some prints of some of my stuff, you know. I think you know I travel all over the world, and i'm always taking pictures when i'm not filming, so I just wrapped them randomly. I ran out of this cool paper. So this one has, so I don't know who's getting what I wanted to keep it totally random. Thank you. Yeah. So it I guess if you don't like yours, you can trade it with somebody else. Let's see. Oh, you're opening on there all right.

[33:00] They have little borders around it that you take off before you mount it. It's just to protect the corners. Oh, my gosh! So Lauren is from point raised. California. Yeah. And then let's see that is from Hiroshima Japan. Um Amy's is from Havana, Cuba, and that is from Shanghai. So. So that's my way of saying Thank you, Staff, for all the hard work that you guys do each and every day. I think I say that on behalf of all my All right. Let us begin with them with the retreat. So kind of reintroductions we've done that right? There's a couple of places. Oh, yeah, okay, fair enough.

[34:05] So you mean the Commissioners or well, I We have a new basis of staff. True, Amy, Would you like to stand down super happy to right. Where were you here? Where were you? What were you doing before I received my Mfa in? So I've been around the area for fourth year and boulder. Um: yeah, And I i'm an artist, too. So I make sculpture. I work up in Denver right now we're yeah a little. That's a cool, and that's It's set in downtown. Um, Yeah, it's in Well, school building it's up in school. Um, It's near the. And why did you want to work for the city.

[35:12] I'm. Super passionate about supporting artists. Um, that's a lot of the It's really a lot of the what are your pronouns here? Awesome. Well welcome. We're happy to have you as part of the team. Um, let's see, and I've been with the city since March. Some of community vitality. Now that ours culture has moved over to vitality. I've given new Board secretary, so you'll be leaving. I'm so sorry i'm sure you still quite her around. Um. Actually, we'll probably both be covering the meetings for the end of the year. She'll be training me

[36:10] and i'm not sure but this is first. I've had it in this restaurant. So it was. Um: yeah. So it's like in the twelve. Oh, yeah, yeah, And does everybody know? Chris? I think so. Yeah. And then um! Do you want to stand up real quick and introduce yourself

[37:00] any others now? It's your second um mission statement. Well, you I can't introduce it if you'd like, because in the package there's a couple that we put out uh we did publish the mission taken that you felt last year. This is the same as the agenda, and so the the goal of the agenda item will uh, basically just so you could revisit that and make sure you're still all in alignment around that language for your I'll read it out out with flashbacks. The Passover Seder, the Boulder Arts Commission believes arts and culture are the foundation for a diverse, inclusive, equitable, and accessible community. We work collaboratively with city staff artists, arts, and culture organizations and the community

[38:05] to support artists and enrich Boulders quality of life and economic vitality, and to help create a highly innovative vibrant and resilient city. I like it more now than I did when we brought it. That's wonderful. Yeah, everybody. Anybody have any comments that you want to bring up about that just to retreat. So it's like we're going to do this a little bit informal, more informal than normal. So just like, Speak up. You don't necessarily have to raise your hand all that kind of stuff. I think it's living. Well, yeah, I'm surprised how much I you know. It seems like fresh. That's something we did a year ago. I think a skipper going back to it, because he said back then that he wouldn't he is anybody else. All right. We are flying through this again

[39:00] all right. Um dinner we've done, and that presentation. So, Matt, did you want to just do a kind of intro to that? And then we can go to questions about it. Yeah, yeah. And you know, as far as the work plan Video: I hope you got a chance to watch that. I know some of you did make something. Um, I I just wanted to sort of see if you have any questions about what you saw. If you need to think clarification, Obviously, we'll have more conversations. And as things come up, we're going to be coming to you with updates and and ask for your advice. So the conversation doesn't have to be complete right now. But um I I wanted to like, sort of, you know. Just feel out how you feel about that. It It is preliminary right so tomorrow night. City Council approves uh the budget. I guess they don't have to. They could get around, but I hopefully, they're going to prove the budget that drives obviously sort of the the refinement of that work plan. And then, with the rest of the Tv vitality department, we have a couple of steps to get that work plan nailed down before January when we start to implement. So

[40:10] it's going to evolve, anyway. And and before I forget um, I know I I know Kathleen is going tomorrow night to speak at the Yes, so I just wanted to. Has anyone else. So Kath, Kathleen and George are going to be there. Thank you both. So much for doing that. I appreciate it. I be there myself, but I will be in Denver. Okay, Um, Is anybody else you have to sign up by two Pm. Today online. Did anybody else so know? Okay. So at least we have two. So thank you both for doing that? I do. I don't know whether this is a perfect time to talk about it, so I do have questions about what creates. I want to ask you in particular, not about the budget

[41:28] completely understood. Yeah, um, And I don't know that i'll be able to give you what you want. But let me tell you what I um there! There's a a a set of Arpa funds that we're assigned to Public Health emergency. What a couple of um five hundred thousand of that remains on, spent during the city council meeting about the the first public hearing about Budget, the two thousand and twenty-three budget. It was sort of casually mentioned by two of the Uh Council members. That, uh question to the finance team. Can that be used for something like support for artists?

[42:06] Um. And the answer to that question is but that's for an upcoming uh meeting of city Council have in November. They'll have that discussion. So it's not pertinent to the two thousand and twenty-three budget. It's separate, but it is something that i'm working with the finance team now to try and figure out what we need to as well. So is it uh appropriate time that we ask that? So you will hear me say something that I say almost every time you ask this question, which is, you could say, whatever you want. Yeah. So we really keep behind the scenes already your Month Road,

[43:01] I I'll say that you know there there was the two council people. Open the door to this. It is appropriate as possible. I can't say whether it's likely. Um, First of all. It wasn't five resounding voices from city council. It was two that matters. And Aaron: Yeah, Bob. And Yeah. Um. But um, yeah. So you know, we'll we'll be exploring the possibility of staff. So if you get up in front of Council and say, you recommend something in our and the second part of that was to um decrease this with the two thousand and twenty-three budget uh when the budget is adjusted in April, and I think we've got the last time that happened was to restore some grant funding. That was

[44:02] um. So I I I would not if I would feel irresponsible to say that's possible. I think it's highly unlikely. Adjustment to the budget are something that are not common, and we should be skeptical about. It looks to be responsible. So yes, we may have amazing tax revenues that we're flushing their money. It needs to be spent. We'll find ways to that. That's the you could definitely you could say it'd be walking. But I just know that. Um, you know, as a responsible employee. I need to say like that's not a highlight. Do you have anything to add to that, Chris and i'd say that arts funding is always going to be something that we're going to continue to seek out. We want to keep up with the um priorities of the cultural plan. We're not gonna not gonna forget about that. So, and there are a lot of opportunities to to request on, so I hope to, even if there are any changes that get made tomorrow. But you're still

[45:15] Thank you. I wanted to question great folder in them in their letter to all of us that that um the city has met It's um has met the app to the cultural plan in terms of funding. Yeah, is that true? That is technically true. The cultural plan says that Um: the minimum amount of money for this third phase that we're industry. Okay, right that doesn't include our but that doesn't include some public art funding. So we're well over that with those conclusions. But those are things that are one time or

[46:18] nine hundred thousand dollars, plus over three years that is included in that. So we're probably just at the custom of the two million without that. So we consider it complete. I think it begs a lot of questions, and it doesn't mean that we wouldn't use money well, and we can't accomplish more in the cultural plan with more funding. I'm not advocating, saying we're done, and we're not, you know, going to use more money successfully, right? Um, But it it's technically true that it meets those. Okay. So we're going to ask for more funds to how much?

[47:01] Well it it. It. It kind of depends what the goals are. This is one thing that we're sort of wrestling with with the sort of minimum amount of information we have with Council right now, and What they said right is like if the goal is really about um helping them. Some more artists, some gig economy workers, and we're struggling the most. Right. Now we have a press that we've spent thirty thousand dollars of our funds on on the artistry hiring Grant. We think it needs to tweaks, but we could do another round, so you know that might be an approach. Um, there's been um underfunding at the general operating support that we didn't anticipate over the years. That's both in the number of organizations that get grants. As you know, I've been talking about the inflation increase over the years. That's another. You know sort of delta that we have to build um our um there. There's some programmatic things that are missing. Um, including the cultural plan. Um, We think that uh the the programs for artists and the programs for youth sections,

[48:06] or you know they're just not complete. It's things that we're working on and actually are just helped out in the programs for artists. But it's, you know, those are areas of their gaps. In that case I can't really get the number without doing research. But great boulder also has different ideas and stuff, right? So their numbers are not wrong. It is different. So you know, if you, if you said some of the things that they wrote that you wouldn't be lying around it exactly, but, for example, asking for something specific, sorry, specific amount of money that would cover X number of additional G. Os funds for the second and third year. Um! Is that even an option? Because I mean it's not even an option to be able to award some more Geos France retroactively the second third year, which we've done and we've done before. Yeah. So yes, how much? What are we looking at? So i'm going to have to get back to you on the exact amount.

[49:05] Lauren and I did a back and a little calculation on uh giving me five more grants, which would be the next highest um scores that you've already given out, and including the inflation, increases over the course of two years. That would be about three. Okay, So that's not small. That much right like that. It's at five grants, one from each category, one from each category except for large, I think two, if I remember correctly. But i'll get back to you. I'll i'll email you tomorrow morning. You'll be good to know, because I think it's you're asking for money, you know, to give them a number so they can set them up for success because they go. Okay? Well, then, you're just like, Can I have some? And i'm like, Okay? Well, here's ten thousand people. Oh, you know. But it's so. I think it's like if they understand where we're coming from. Like the artist, we hire you right, but it's twenty thousand dollars a year.

[50:01] Is there anyone in the room that? No so? And what about the Health Equity funds? So um! That is the five hundred thousand dollars That's Council asked. About. Is that what you're referring to. No, i'm just wondering. Oh, that because yeah, um, I might know It's incorrectly. But the person that I was helping said that there was five million dollars there. I don't know the number. But yeah, so that's generated by the um Sugar beverages tax, and it's It's been very lucrative, but the the law is not general enough to say that we could spend it on

[51:04] organizations and projects around obesity and that sort of thing. So I I don't think there would be a way for us to uh to access, even if we came up with some sort of, and i'd want to be. I want to be really clear that the budget that this percentage of the manager's budget, Both Matt and I work with the city manager and the budget that she has recommended to city council represents what Staff has said. Here is what we would do with the monies. That that we are just in it with the city manager is is wanting to spend in, uh, two thousand and twenty-three, so you all, as our commissioners certainly advocate for more money going to the things that are important to you, but we need to be really careful. We need to advocate for a bosses budget. Um, and that's the budget that councils Consider, if they decide that that more money should go to ours and programs. Great um! If that if that happens and we would need to go back to the uh, back to work and decide how we would um recommend spending those dollars in in partnership with you all. But I just want to make sure that it's not

[52:11] us telling you how much more money you should be asking the City Council for, because we've already asked the Council, the budget that we're looking for to the our boss city manager. Okay, Um, A question. What are some of the factors? You mentioned that there is a potentially low likelihood of success of the Commissioners asking City Council tomorrow for additional budget. What are the factors that are um affecting that low probability, so that the other people have better business cases. Is it that they don't intend to really change it at all like what's going on there? Yeah, let me be clear that when I said that It was specifically about an adjustment to the budget in the middle of next year, and it's um, you know just the the reason, I say that is, It's just not what the adjustment budget is used for. Um. Generally we're looking at things that are, you know, emergencies, or we're caring for funds from one year to the next, or you know there's

[53:15] It's generally not about new new initiatives, new directions which this would be so. The reason, I say it's unlikely is because it's just out of sync with what the the budget adjustments. And to be clear that the suggestions that create order made, We're not about adjusting the budget so much tomorrow night, but thinking about when the or the budget is re-figured in April, this is what we're asking, Yeah, yeah. So So what I'm saying is in November. There's going to be a discussion about another round of funds from Arthur that makes total sense to give your opinion about that.

[54:02] The adjustment of the budget that create older mentions um definitely weigh in on that. But it it doesn't seem like, uh, like. We use the the budget system. One additional question: Is there any way we can lower these doors? Oh, man, D: Yeah. Oh, my gosh! This is what city staff is really here for um any other discussion, any questions. This is a good time for just yeah, Just the same question. We've had every month, just about the the unused Grant dollars, and just um, you know, I think, and I think it's going to go back into your hands Right, Chris. How that's going to be.

[55:05] Is that right. And I think that I think the Commission I think we're interested in trying to continue to fund some of the next level of grants with those dollars. So the way this is working the passenger department, new director and new rules. How it works in the past is um that will come to you in the November meeting with the exact amount of unsped dollars from this Grant cycle and get your recommendations on what to spend that on. We'll have a staff recommendation for you to consider, and then it's Chris's decision on how to actually spend that money, or if it returns to the bill, Chris, make sure to send it on art.

[56:07] Yeah, What did you have actually, when I, when I brought it before? Like when you get to discuss this stuff in the agenda. We already talked about the mission statement, but I wonder if we could put that if you need us to talk about the roles and responsibilities for you the city? Um, because it seems to me that you can tweet that and um also the functions of the older. Well, I i'm also wondering what the what the most efficient way to deal with that is. Well, is that something you are inspired to write up and present to the

[57:00] permission to then both. Yeah, I mean it would take some words with him like like everything would require, and I don't give you one of that now. But the main points for me were like we're. We're mentioning fine arts and performances, and it's just so much more than that. That's responsibilities. And then I would really love to see public art. I have a comment that I just looked at the code this afternoon, and I don't know if this would help clarify the fourteen, one, four functions of the Boulder Arts Commission, where there is no statement of public guard, is under the subsection of the are going at program. So these functions are specific to the our grant side of what we do, and so it wouldn't be appropriate for the public to all under this section. I'm just looking at this like what we saw in packet. And I thought, Yeah, and that was probably I I probably didn't explain that. Well,

[58:08] so that's yeah, That's just i'm just saying It's it possible to change the language. And what is that? What does that take to change the language? So that's what i'm saying it wouldn't be appropriate to change the language. For what is our role in the art? Granting section of our responsibilities to include one responsibilities that fall under the Public Art Section categories. So if I could, What? What? Some things you're not seeing in in addition, Thank you for clarifying that there is a holding place in Chapter fourteen. Um for public art. If that should ever you become a law instead of a policy? Um. Right now in the policy, it does describe your responsibilities. Now. That said Section Chapter two is part of the governance part of the of the charter. Um, That is something that can be changed, but not by you by city council, right? And so, if you wanted to make a change, there would be a request that you would build to City Council to actually um

[59:15] vote on an ordinance to make those changes. So if you wanted to change the language, you see in section in chapter two of the boulder uh charter. So that part is something that um you would um work with the Charter Committee of City Council and the City clerk's office to make a request the Charter Committee could recommend that gets sent to the Council Agenda Committee, who can then put it on the agenda for council for two public hearings, and then vote on, You know, in those two public hearing vote on a motion to make some changes.

[60:04] I I agree with Kathleen. I think the language is a little dated. But what what are the risks of uh opening up, tweaking the language with a city council that open this up to bigger risk that, you know they could overhaul the whole course program once you start tweaking it. Yeah, I I You know. I I guess it's there because they'll they'll take a look at that whole section. Say, what else do we want to do while we're doing it, since it's a big deal they won't, you know. Want to not ask that question. I I don't feel like there's a lot of risk like in other places where they're looking to got public art funding, or, you know, defund a grants program. I I don't get that feeling from this Council right? So the the the question is more political. What do you want to burden council with the degree to which you want to do something like that? There may be more of a suggestion like when it's opportune. Here's the suggested changes, and it can be part of some other changes that come down the line later.

[61:06] Um, I don't know. Well. So yeah, I would not suggest that it's a good use of the commission's time to tinker with the boulder. Revised Code. I would suggest that it's almost time to update the community cultural plan, and in that it's an opportunity to advise on a number of policy changes that could include tie in updates to the motor device code, and what all happen all of once as opposed to counsel, tinkering, and you all to bring. For that matter, we would want to make sure that that in you change the boardwide revised code really also isn't service to the work that we have to do on a daily basis, so that we're working together on that as opposed to um. The Arts Commission, deciding what you think is right, and then count and city staff has to be like. Oh, we don't know how we feel, but we actually don't recommend that um, and then we're we could be Not that that's what would happen. But

[62:09] the a a good flow of of work would be. Let's do a community cultural plan update because it's time for that right, and in that have some of these recommendations and more um, and then take all of that just to be clear. Um! And so it seems to me that that should be if we had public art elevated to the what the level of law, and we could also argue that it needs to be properly and and regularly, and it passes so no disagreement. So you said it is a city manager. Policy

[63:05] is important to your roles as long as I didn't include it. But yes, so it it's. It's a policy because of how okay part of that Chapter Fourteen. But we're not quite there yet, and I would argue that under Chapter two, it falls within the umbrella of a number of these points that we're administering a budget um as directed, and that we're advising counsel and connection with public are or performing other positions associated with the arts. There's a lot of umbrella there under which public art functionality. I would just

[64:01] I I just. I just offer that, as you know, we're not like winging it outside a charter or something like that. How we have I didn't um so sorry. One more question. So, Chris, if we take your approach, you know, to update the cultural plan. Um, what is involved with that? And, Matt, Do you have the budget to do that? And do we need to advocate for more funds to do that? Um! So I don't have the budget today, but it will be a part of our requests discussion in the next budget cycle. So that's something that's you know, an internal staff process that runs in March until June, and so we'll be making requests for funding of the cultural plan in two thousand and twenty-four. Don't know if That's going to make it through to the budget. But that will be But Kathleen and Georgia are advocating for funds to. We do that in this budget cycle. So we advocate for that or a little early. Yeah, Um, I think Um, starting to, you know. Think about that for the next budget cycle. Yeah, we should keep that in mind.

[65:09] Anything else about that. All right, Let's take a quick, really quick! Five minute break before time you get started. I want to wash the curry off my fingers, and we I would see uh the to the arts. I have some data, but

[66:01] good data i'll share with Maria. I do like data ironically.

[67:12] Yeah, i'll test it again to or listen. Once when everybody's kind of talking again. But it's really funny, though. Yeah,

[71:37] Okay, yeah,

[72:35] let's go ahead and get started, everybody.

[73:03] So, Tanya, i'll let you start whenever you and i'm founder and Ceo of the business, I know It's a kind of strange name. So this, if I didn't want to do a repetition of new offers there'd be the opportunity to speak before um. It's a strange, but there's a tension behind it, so I just wanted to take you through it really quickly I started my career and ioting in London, and spent ten years working on multi-national brands. It wasn't right for me. But one of the things I took away has one creative idea that unite people from as far away as Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil, and I really that's really stuck with me. And then I spend another ten years leading a French American art non-profit again, working with emerging artists established artists from all over the world. That's why i'm on a

[74:02] some of us. So what I learned from that was working as an artist from eight years old. Now I teach, I think my oldest is turning ninety-five in December, and a lot of corporate people in between. Um! How artists see themselves in their place in the world really uh kind of lasting impact on me, and I wanted to share with more people. So a business with a mission I really loved in the nonprofit world to have a mission, but I for me the business world is the place where I feel most comfortable where I want to drive social, blasting change. So my business has a mission to nurture human connection and creative spirits inspired people to be kind of themselves and others as far from both. And we activate this mission. Three ways: corporate creativity workshops which will be sampling here. And what a pleasure it is to be in an arts environment! Normally, I'm. In an office space. So already I feel I love this um

[75:04] and our programs that I've been delivering to school senior centers to empower children in seniors, and I am going to tell you a little bit about that, just because I've been amongst friends and experiences which I won't go into. But I still have connections with the south of France and I'm. Taking people. We do experiences different places. I'd love to do what i'm older. They want to ask them, but the next one is in June and the south of place in the castle, not open to the public overlooking meditation. I know it's pretty cool, so if you want to, that'll be next year's retreat. That would be a great. So there are classes for so after ten years working in schools, I deliver our programming to children, mostly in schools where there is no art. But now I'm invited to school deep in where there is our, because there's one teacher put it. You might have our in your life, but you'll never have to,

[76:04] because she believes in each and every one of you, and it's great because I can come in and be the the aunt, because I don't know who's been challenging during the day, and I can just let them express themselves. But what I learned, or where you need to be. No, it's. I don't know I i'll press my clicker. Sorry uh I what I learned. I also volunteered for three years in a um shelter for families experiencing homelessness. And one of the things I learned during that was, It's really hard for nonprofits to divide. I know a lot of you know this, and so it's really hard for them to continue services. So once I start with the school, i'm very careful about expansion, because once I start I don't want to ever disappear. Um! So we we go every week. We bring quality art materials, we curate, install, and post our exhibitions on site,

[77:02] and it's not after school. I want to do it during the school day, because you never know it can be self selected. The curriculum has four tenants to it, and this applies to you all to ninety two. It's called How to be an artist. Of course, in schools or anywhere, not everyone is going to be a professional artist, And that's okay. That's not the goal. The goal is to try out a persona of being an artist, and they're for tenants to The program, whatever you create is perfect because you are perfect. A little boy described this to be so beautifully. I think he's about eight, and we're working on a long term project together, and he had a limited power that was part of the design, and he's in this time. Yeah, our is so wonderful and horrible at the same time, when I was up all night thinking about how to I create what I want to create. It is driving me crazy. And then I realized It's coming from me. It's going to be wonderful. And I thought, that is exactly what we need. This is what we're doing. We also in art, and artists know the power of listening.

[78:01] And I really want to talk about listening to yourself first, because we talk a lot about listening to other people, and I would say it's really hard to listen to other people. You can't listen to yourself first. It starts there. Other things I admire and love about artists. I'm so lucky to know faith renewal, for instance, and the way she progressed through her life, the things that other people would think we're just obstacles that we're that unsurmountable or just relish them. They might. They might shut some tears in the ex. I'm not saying that we can always be excited by obstacles in our path. But it's another opportunity to create a solution. And the fourth thing, and this applies to all of you, because, no matter what you do during your day jobs, your artists in your voice and your needs are important. These are I, just. In fact, some of these are. We do study artists as well as part of the how to be an artist program. So it's a bit. I tell them it's like a college course, and we're taught. We're going to learn about it on the shelf that we're going to learn about on the Maria her end up. And so these are some of the children, and the goal is to empower children and seniors to create their own dream.

[79:09] The one program. This is the last part about the kindness, and I will take you through tonight. But it's called Portrait House, and it seems like at the moment in our country especially and in the world, We created lots of ways to not get along, and I love Portrait House because it's like a pen top, except instead of writing letters to create. But you never necessarily need most of the time you don't need, and this person in the middle is a supervisor at um a place where I was opening the program, not just to the the residents at the senior center, but the staff as well, and he never needed a portrait. So if he pay you this, and you never met the child. In fact, in all these cases they didn't meet each other. But there's an element of reciprocity, and this is what I love to it doesn't matter if you're the lawyer sponsoring the program, and you're the child in this underserved school you're both giving and receiving. And that's part of the the,

[80:03] and also sometimes when we work in the nonprofit world, you might set up a really meaningful event. But do you know what their favorite color is. Do you know what their their dreams are? So a lot of uh the pairing that we do with important from the kindness in here is asking people to look forward to that perspective. So we did it with all our people. What's your advice for your eight year old self for children? Imagine you're the elder. What are you proud of? What you created in your life? That your product? Well, people come and ask you advice for. So that's portrait of these two or some of my favorite they never met. But, Martha, I you see here. Um, thank you, Brad. I'm still assuming you can see what I can take into this Um. And Martha her goal, and I I really want to write to Karl. I think it's parallel to. She wants to be a model. She's a ninety-four year old veteran, and this is her statement from herself in Virginia. And Jamia without any prompting for me. Just said I hope she sees how pretty she and I just thought that was so beautiful.

[81:09] I'm clicking brad. So our schedule for tonight first. Thank you. Thank you so much Matt and Georgia for inviting me here tonight. It's been a pleasure, and also all of you, because I know this is extra. This is after day's work. There's still a long day of work. We've done so many things. I'm sure during the day, and I know you're all doing so. Thank you for giving me your time. And being a part of this process, we're going to do a create a warm up. It's interactive and cares. Then we have a creative project. I have to say I designed this, for I knew Jack was coming. So this is kind of exciting. If you get paired with Jack, you might get a special kind of portrait. Um! And then after that i'm gonna do that. It takes about five minutes, Max, and that for that first one i'll tell you again in a minute. You need the sharpie and the kind of it's not quite white this piece of paper for that. Then, after that we're going to do um the series of questions because we're here to create and enjoy creating. But one of the wonderful things about the creative process is, it can open for some months. And so I'm. Asking a series of questions will be paired,

[82:14] and for tonight I want you to write them on the card. You let us see a poor white cards in front of you, and you just write them. You could be an honest, or you can regulate it. We'll collect some of the we have that, and that will be done throughout our creative exercise. And then at the end, if you like, you can share your presentation. I think you're going to all be really proud of what you create, and so especially Amy Ad. For some me the information about her summer work. Not I teach it. I'm not um. Eighty works as a plural. Yeah, sorry. Um. So we're gonna Everyone is going to enjoy the creative problem. Um, and then maybe one insight if you do want to share um one inside, even if it was just that one of the

[83:06] I know Lauren, i'm sorry it's invoking a sneezing attack in Lauren. Here's your first two questions. We're going to start with the two questions, and I I was on. Uh I was um director of a nonprofit for a long time, and I know It's on boards to There are people who've been there a long time, and they love it. They're still committed. They're so passionate to go back to them. It's good to go back, whether you're working or you're volunteering. Why are you? Just think about it. Why are you here for some people? It could be just because you like, like we have a people doesn't have to be something deep or But just why are you? And for every question you answer Tonight I would ask you to go super, personal and super authentic. It's part of the reason we're using the cards. Because if I ask someone on the street, why, you know, are you stressed today? Probably a lot of us would say. I'm stressed about the word and you stress about. And those are global issues. Let's try to bring it really back to you.

[84:09] This is your time to say as Well, So two questions on the card. I'm going to give you like three to five minutes, Max. The answer these because I think our first response, or that response is often the most authentic. So if you would write those two questions, you've got four parts. If you want to go double tight, as that might be nice. Yes, on one card. You can use both sides if you like, and if you need more, I've got more. We can as much space as you and you can use the sharply if you like to answer it, there should be. I would like to. I would like a pin. Yeah. Oh, Thank you.

[92:29] Okay, You can always add more to this later. But I think most of us are finished. Not five minutes is up. Brad. Would you please click for the next. We're going to get started with something created. Now you're going to work in partners. So you need to find a partner. Obviously, it's easy. I'll just turn to the person next to, and for this you need that kind of bigger piece of paper. It's multimedia, and you need a sharpie. We're going to do no one. Okay, I don't know.

[93:02] Yeah, You want to explain it. Okay. So you look at the object that you're drawing, and you don't look down at what you're drawing, and you don't lift your pin or marker from the paper. Exactly. Yeah. So when I've done this before, I think I was thinking this i'm not the artist for the first round, because it sounds kind of scary. But you've got sixty seconds. The pressures off right, and it's stressful. But because you can't look at your paper. All that stress is gone. You can't help. You can't look at your feedback, but I find being the model a little harder because I find it hard. Just having someone look at you. So for sixty seconds you're going to have someone look at you and draw your portrait, and then you're going to train places. So I think we might have an odd number, so it's fine to go with three to as long as everyone has the term um, so find a partner, and the person who's name is personally, he starts closest to the letter A is the artist. First, let's make it easy. So we don't have five minutes of debate, so find a partner.

[94:07] The person with that is first name. Oh, okay, we have a time. Now I have a timer. Okay, all right, Yeah. An artist. Just make sure, please, on your your drawing that you're using this slightly bigger, thicker paper. Just the sharp people will be better on it. So you should. Oh, I think you need a different. Let me give it up. Oh, okay, Thank you and a model.

[95:30] I I feel like to. We're halfway. Oh, don't even.

[96:00] I want to go back up, though. Oh, my gosh, I want this here. Yeah, I can say you like working, Are we down? Oh, my gosh, Kathleen,

[97:49] I do this all the time. That's yeah, me and my friends do this one.

[98:18] Yeah, I didn't know that about myself, either. So you have two more questions now, and the first one is, Is there a cultural? Is there a city whose cultural community inspired you. And why? What are your hopes for the cultural community of over again? One card? I have more cards. I'm: just trying to be environmentally. But I

[100:50] okay, you know, like

[104:43] Oh, right. So now our main creative activity inspired by Georgia. Thank you. Because I have seven platforms on my website and corporate creativity or stuff that I offered. Not one has been so. You helped inspire a new workshop from the kind of

[105:10] I really like George's at a request of flowers. Because well, first of all, I know a lot of you are practicing artists, and are very comfortable in the hard world, and one of the things I love doing with corporates is creating them in front of having. I call it the blank canvas moment for people who are really used to data numbers and external drivers, and all of a sudden they look at their. I have to produce this. So I like this because Maybe this is something you have it that I don't know, but I hope that you all feel um excited by it. I hope it's joyful for you. But before we get into the actual choosing of flowers, which is our next step before our um, I want to tell you a little bit about the people behind the We all look at flowers and flower shops, or the grocery store, the gas station, and it's hard to remember these,

[106:01] or actually coming from somewhere, and someone has put a lot of effort and a lot of resource into that. So, um! I love the idea of flowers. This transformation, of course. Um, and now all flowers make it. But even these beautiful flowers there's no permanence to them. Right. They're not going to last forever. Which kind of reminded me of we're talking about same here with Video. It's still like decomposing, and I feel like that as well. Um, Sometimes it's easy to get attached to a certain idea. To be sure, it's the right one, and then maybe, maybe, if we look at it a little differently, maybe everything has it's time and place uh these flowers that I chosen for you here. I went to the market this morning. They come from Ecuador, California, Colorado, Columbia, and Mexico. They are uh rainforest alliance certified to, you know, but they still have considerable resources have been uh invested in these. They would all phones, Denver, most of them not maybe the call router ones loaded on the trucks unloaded early early in the morning and delivered to the market. So behind the scenes Brad

[107:06] um behind the scenes. There are people who work such long, long hours to bring this beauty and this one, especially in the middle. I love. This was from this one Matthew in the middle. When I explain this, it may take your photo, at least, not to be posted on social media, just to share with the group in Boulder, and I told him why I wanted to show that some of the people behind the scenes and his grin he was like that is awesome. He was so happy to be seeing and recognize You've been working since two thirty this morning and loading trucks, and so I just want to say thank you? Um! And then yes, this is. This is how it looks. In the morning you go to the warehouse. Um, I don't think I've included. But would you mind going forward? I don't think I included the whole thing up. It's just full of flowers in the refrigerated section, and you have to make your selection. Um! I thought this might be a good time to look at these masterpieces and what you're trying to do in the boulder community again. There are lots of people behind the scenes making this happen. I know all of you know that, and you're part of that group right here,

[108:10] but I thought we're looking at your uh, I think this is your vision right? From your cultural plan, from two thousand and fifteen together. We will craft, boulder, social, physical, and cultural environment to include creativity as an essential ingredient for the well-being prosperity and joy of everyone in the community. And I just want to bring that to you tonight because you're part of the community, too. I love personally the fact that you included essential. But well, being prosperity, enjoy so I hope tonight this is your gift, too, in addition to Jess portraits, to make something for you as gratitude to you. So that's the goal for this evening. So, Brad, thank you. I feel like such that it's really awesome. So I what you think about which flowers represent you.

[109:01] Not just for me. It'd be obvious to choose like a sunflower, because I've got kind of yellow hair. We're thinking more along the lines of um being inspired by nature. And there's that in your community plan to that. You are, I mean holders know, I think, even around the world, when certainly I travel through Europe, people no longer as being one of the most beautiful places in the world, and maybe maybe you recognize that every day. But maybe you don't just to remember nature. It's beauty and be inspired by that, and have a chance to express. Use that as your medium to express yourself. So think about it in I, you know. Maybe you could think about size in terms of visual or like positive and negative space. When you're selecting your flowers, really think of it like that in contracts and love, using the definition of contrasting groups to within our terms. It is two elements next to each other that are very, very different make each other more powerful. I think that's a wonderful thing you can all this for think about in in the broader context perspective also, I mean, I just displayed, not in the Braddock's perspective. But where is this? Where it will your base of powers be? Well, you see what I see, and when I see what you

[110:13] so think about that. So go and select your flowers. There are a few resources, because that's typical of the to share it. Collaborate. You all have some scissors or some people have the big shares in front of them might have to share resources. Some of you will notice there are some plastic things that are bendable. There's one on the table, or you've got it. Yes, thank you. This is to help. So what happens when you go into any kind of shop? Someone is processed the flower. So it doesn't just stop with Matthew. Someone takes the stems off um, because the stems it's like editing right. First of all, the stems can get in the way of the blossom, but also the stems. Take the valuable resource of water. You may not want that, so you want to get your stems off.

[111:02] There is one group over there, and the foliage the one that looks kind of our like tree like that is a bit prickly. So be careful of your hands, and then you're going to come back. So you're going to select your flowers and then come back and remove anything that needs to be removed, and that's what we're going to give that about ten minutes, fifteen minutes. Okay, All right. Yeah, I like how you're moving over so you can get your first choice, and your bases are on your table, and we're not going to start putting them in today's just yet. That's amazing. I should. I should be like, Yes, that's always true.

[112:27] Oh, and if someone's just one uh the yellow ones, I have the light on it. Yeah,

[113:02] the first. Well, it's so cool I don't um. There's like

[114:29] about two years ago. It's supposed to start. No, they said not to. Yes, okay.

[115:36] Thanks. Oh, my God!

[116:11] I think, Zoom, that one is pretty quickly. Is it for you? Okay, So far, Okay. Good, for instance. You don't. So you don't want any. And I filled your faces very shallow. So when you go drive home they don't. But you don't want any here, anyway, because they'll just take the water from the boss right. So you're going to take. Okay, if I would. Yeah,

[117:15] that really works. And then there are some leaves that are hosting it. If you like that, Maybe it lets the bike through, and you like that already, like here. So I I think a lot of people are tremendous to you. So, Um, which is absolutely fine. You can. But if you're going to I was. We're going to do more questions and then start putting in.

[118:07] Yeah, I usually a lot of time. You can just uh strip them first, and that's a really good way to do it, or you're going to do um start doing the link that you want. Sometimes. Maybe you just it's not like what I go like. We actually start. You can't bottle these you. This is going to make your water. Go, moldy, and they won't last long. Just so, you know. Perfect. That's all You okay.

[119:02] If you're starting to place in your face, you might want to think start with, paid to positive space. So it was they had worked out. Are we doing questions before putting them in and make sure that you have your stems that you're cutting them at the angle so as much as it is exposed to water that Oh, take a picture. It's a lot of the energy. It's, it's it's it's it's it's a little. It's it's, It's a little going all these different directions. Yeah, and the colors and varies Oh, you got, hey? You just do lovely kind of like, slacked out and came to with all these.

[120:21] That's how I feel. So much better. I go home from the warehouse is like I thinking about just a couple of too many. How many are over there? Oh, my God! It was this thing! But I was sure to imagine thirteen days. It was unbridled. It would wish it. You know what I mean. Yeah. Anyone to feel like they didn't have what they were speaking about you guys. Okay, if I take your picture,

[121:04] I love you. Do you see that on the side of the road? Now, this is a gift from Kathleen. That's my one. But oh, it to me got a picture of you. But there, that's That's exactly yeah. She gifted with my handful. I love that that is lovely. That's why it's the star of the It's the highest, the height That's so lovely, you guys, for for a long time they got one. Yeah, that's really nice. Yeah. Oh, I smell so good over here, too. And this is the eucalyptus. Oh, you probably know that right? Yeah, it's not so good, and it's soft. So if you want to, yeah, if you want it, if you need to strip into the bottom, you can just pull it, and it shouldn't hurt your hands. I love those. So there's dark in the comedy. Yeah, I love those they're called Scabiosa. Oh, my gosh, yeah. And they last really well, too. I love this.

[122:11] Oh, yeah, that's fine. I think it's almost like on Guy. I love it. Do you need a bigger? The clippers think i'm done awesome. I love it. Yeah,

[123:09] How many? That's so good. Are we supposed to take the little plastic.

[124:50] Yeah.

[125:02] Yeah. Oh, my nice! Oh, it's extra. I'm: not something. Gig doesn't work out here. You get a future. Yes, that's neat. Yeah,

[126:47] yeah,

[127:11] yeah, here, what we do that? Yeah, that's my as Well,

[128:10] it's quite stabbing. Very. No. I mean, you know, we have. Oh, yeah, have a crazy big garden, you, too.

[129:00] That's My, it's true. Yeah, Yeah, it works together. Yeah,

[130:10] beautiful. Anything I I can. But I really can't.

[131:02] Yeah, that's what we think of. And that yeah, there's no waiting. It's kind of cool. How different all of our I know. That's what I love to see. We all folks in the same pile, but they all look so different. I know It's a museum in the we're all like at the low riders over here. Yeah. So

[132:12] so uh, for, please, we are ready to what's the biggest challenge case for your team. I want to to be more effective in your and maybe that's a different goal. I don't know, but just thinking about it again, and it very personal and authentically Yeah, clarifying question Our team, What's What's the parameters around that? Does that mean the Arts Commission? That's what I was intending with it, but you interpret it how you want, because I don't know in that. But I do your community.

[133:03] So maybe your team is city of vulgar, right, or maybe it's the entire community. I don't know. So please just make it maybe clear somehow, in your answer what it means to you. Yeah, my, you say someone a human? I don't know. I just a mystery. Yeah,

[134:00] of course, most likely. So my children are. Yeah, Yeah,

[135:20] this challenge. It's still my name right?

[136:23] It's a

[138:08] They go ahead and ask Brad to the last two questions, on which I think are two slides forward. So if you want to think about those two final questions, too. Um, I know your here to serve the community. You're part of the community, and also and then the last one. They talked with the boulder.

[142:38] Mhm

[143:10] Okay,

[144:39] alright. So I know we want to keep the scheduled. Thank you guys. I appreciate your help, and it's very kind of um. Thank you so much for giving me your time and time to do Thanks again to Matt, Georgia for innovating and firing a new program for the kind of

[145:07] is it? I do love working with all groups. So um keep in touch. My there, I guess. Um! But keep in touch to the website. You can get in touch with me or um, and then they have my information too. I'd love to work more with um and in the so Thank you very much. Um, before all that's the end of me. But now, as we said, we've got like three or four more minutes, many moments to share with the group. Um! If not, you can let your words speak for themselves. But if there's anything you want to share about your arrangement or about, we'll hand it over to to math. Thanks, all of you.

[146:00] I just want to share that while we were choosing our flowers and the textures, you know. Um, and then arranging them, I found myself So I thought, we're making art. So yeah, I found my my breath changing and my stress levels going down. And I thought, this is just an example of what artists do. Every day they work. It's just even looking at. Thank you for pointing that out. I forget it. I feel it, but I don't take the time to recognize it. And yes, exactly.

[147:05] You know, I think we tend to get pretty comfortable with our monthly meetings and Roberts rules, and the process for Grants public art very sort of prescribed and hands out of deep into the work, and and we know what we need to do. It's clear. Our activities together are rarely about the art that we're supporting in art making. Because sometimes you gotta remind yourself why we do work. I think that a planning board last night they were at their each of each other. So it's over Rover's rules, which is like that's not supposed to happen.

[148:00] Do you think it's true? A lot of us who work in the arts even? I mean you expect it from for all day about numbers, but we don't do enough art to creativity, and it's so good for us. Yeah, Well, thank you again. Oh, um! If i'm not intruding as a as your folks and an observer tonight. Um, being in such a cool, inclusive space where we have our artists community members come here and create just watching your process was amazing. Uh, you all created some amazing art tonight, and Georgia Thank you because one of the other things that I you know sometimes you don't expect It's just like the the the multi-ensory uh aspect of what you guys have done. You really That's something I noticed, too, is Um! There are a lot of independent creators here,

[149:03] There, Wasn't a lot of looking at someone else's, or and I love that I that's really um special. But I it wasn't I i'm not judging that at all that wasn't the requirement except for the sharing things, and you know No, I was arguing, but it just for some people that don't create often or for whatever reason it's, it's it takes a little longer, You guys just jumped in, and how you might need a break, but you just just powered through. So that was, we had to get a picture. I know I I really love it. I just think that I love it. I love it

[150:01] for the website when you get a picture, too. So yeah, with your flowers. Is this the portrait you want to use like on the website of the Commission, If that's all right. Yeah, Yeah. Um. I just want to be sure. How like nice you want it to that, you know, with my front and center. Um, I have to take it, everyone. I think if we have the commission, if you guys don't, I think it's the black background. It'd be ideal, I think. Uh, Are we taking a whole hours, or you know I want to? I'm I love it yourself. But can we have a compromise one just the commission and one with staff because we want to remember it? Yeah, I think a really big one would be great to just for that. That that one always on me.

[151:15] Yeah, Got it back up a little bit. Yeah, Yeah, that looks great.

[152:26] No, it's no flowers.

[153:10] Um, what? Almost there and my they do at the back. You're right on stage, right? Right? Okay. Last one.

[154:00] Okay. So one thing I forgot to tell you is because nice thing with gratitude. And he doesn't like this. They're not even your brand in alignment with my values. So thank you for watercolor, whatever. Hey, Brown? All right.

[155:06] Yeah, that is mine. Oh, that that's my I love it. It is really that's the earring.

[156:56] I wanted to

[157:00] share with you some ideas that have come up from various commissioners about stuff we can do as an art commission. Um! When I had asked people, you know, for their ideas, and you know, looking at the bigger picture, I already have one of those they don't want to. Why did you say the good stuff for laughs?

[158:07] Um! So you know. We obviously don't have any time to talk about this stuff tonight. Um! Well, we have some time. It's eight thirty-four. We all committed to being here till nine, so you know, maybe take a look at this stuff, and maybe it'll just help spark. Some discussions about. You know. Number One is any of this within the purview of the Arts Commission and number two. If so, what things are we excited about that We share mutual interest, and getting some of these things done having them come to fruition, or some not as important than others. Some rise to the top as being low hanging fruit that we can easily get done. Um, you know, just to to give you a sense of the way I think I live downtown. I used to love to walk past the tea house, and in that area north of the tea house, that big, empty area there used to be dance nights like almost every night. Monday night would be Salsa night. Tuesday night would be,

[159:15] you know, just any number of things every night. It was the coolest thing, and all of a sudden that disappeared, and before Covid and all by all you know, I had asked Matt about it, and it was something along the lines of people, the groups that were putting on had to have this egregious insurance to be able to do the stuff, and it was and wasn't within the ability of these small groups to get these kinds of insurance policies. So now that we have, they are under the Community Vitality Department. Perhaps we can figure out some way to make this happen, to make it easier for groups.

[160:01] Yeah, and i'm not even like a huge dance person. But I love the sense of community of I walked past all of a sudden. I thought, oh, my wife and I, maybe we would take go in some night and take a salsa dancing lesson, you know, just because it was there. It was public. It was just, I think it was even free. So I I just love stuff like that. It it. It engages our little community, and it brings art to the forefront of you know everything we do if we can get more people involved. Um, So you know this isn't the be all end all of of ideas, but I just want to use it as sort of a a a launching pad just to get you all thinking of like, What what can we do in our Arts commission other than doing grants

[161:02] and such an Hannah Click! Uh what's her name. She was a student of mine. She was organizing that. And I know I mean, yeah, it was super cool. But those things take off like I put on shows like organizing something like that like It's a huge task for someone to take on as a volunteer, you know, and like you said there was the insurance um situation, and when you're doing it simply, but outside you don't know who's going to show up, you know, as far as like you need to have in place there for safety. So so I I hear that, and I immediately think of Maybe one organization would want to take that under its wing, and then be in charge of it, and have different groups sign up for which nights they wanna do their thing.

[162:09] I mean, I i'm just all about removing barriers, and there's so many barriers in the city of Boulder. It seems like when you try to get the simplest thing done. No offense to the city, but it's just the way it is. That's why we have that nickname, the Republic of Folder. It didn't just come from nowhere. We have a lot of rules and regulations, but I think there's ways of getting around them sometimes by organizing and erez agmoni. It just seems like there's lots of people that want to do stuff. But I think there's a lot of barriers. So maybe that's one of the things we can help with is removing some of those barriers to figuring out what kind of blanket insurance policy One organization, maybe, already has one hundred and fifty for all the other stuff they do, and this could be done under that, and I don't want to focus just on one thing on the on that list. But

[163:01] i'm just trying to figure out how we can help our community get more arts happening. Um, I wonder? Well, because we can't do anything about like whatever is demanding that the insurance we can do anything about that. But um, you know, just finding my maybe some money to pay someone to organize that. You know someone to partner with an organization that has the insurance for outdoor events. Actually, because, like I said, it takes a lot of time and um I know i'm definitely over my Max, My volunteer hours. Um: So yeah. And i'm not looking for for individual commission members to volunteer for this stuff. Don't get me wrong. Any of this stuff. It's more about brainstorming ideas, and maybe we put it out to the

[164:00] to our mailing list, we say, is anybody into, you know? Here's six things anybody. So what if we contact someone that has an outdoor insurance policy with our left over great many? I'd also love to throw in at this point? We're kind of agreeing on something as commissioners without having data to support that. This is a desire from the community. I completely agree with you. R: I would love to just walk down the street and see us also. Party I would totally join in. But that's my perspective as an individual, and i'd love to get some data behind it before we go and put it on the Newsletter or our posted out, because I think there is an element of um taking responsibility and accountability for the voice that we have, because we we do represent the city of Boulder. So when we say something should happen, it has a little more weight, and so really making sure it's evidence space before we move forward. And that's why. And you know, I said, I don't want to probably best. If we don't focus on any one thing here, it's more about what rises to the top. What are most of us interested in all these things that are here,

[165:06] and maybe stuff. That's not even on this list. What can we help make happen in in a tangible way? Double up on Ebony's comment, because that's something that I wrote on here. Um! How can we serve the community together is to actually find out what they need like to, and not just talking to you like sending out a survey to the the larger organizations that have staff that respond to those questions. But like seeking the smaller smaller groups and individual artists, and asking them like, What do you need? What do you want? And then, somehow getting a community um false on that which is, I don't know how I know I get a lot of, and I would just add to that that the if we were to do a survey,

[166:01] that it doesn't just go out to artists and arts organizations. It goes out to the community. What kind of art stuff do you want to happen in in the style, as the arts of arts. Organizations kind of have a sense of what they want to bring to the public right. I'd rather hear what the public is looking for that they're not already getting are well. What do you mean? Are like painting on the wall, because that's the one thing that they've seen, you know, not understanding that it means okay. Yeah, I mean, I I to give an example. Another example. When I first met Caroline she was talking about doing this big project, and the the biggest barrier she had was something that I never even thought of, and every it never even occurred to me.

[167:00] She's very involved in burning man, as you probably know, and wanted to do an event here. That was kind of along along those lines, and the biggest problem was getting permission to have the fire, you know, to burn the thing, and you know it's bolder. You can't stop up fuck. If you could just have a fire. You gotta have, you know, one hundred firefighters there ready to put it out in case an ember flies over here. You know it's just very strict. So barriers are sometimes things we don't even think about, not even aware of. They'll be on it more discussion. So I mean, if you just going by the numbers of people who used to enjoy things. I would like to take you down the parking lot next to the she has on a upfront or something. It was a and and the whole uh season would be, You know, we probably the movies that are shown now like called phones that are all silly, or that you know they would create films.

[168:10] So i'm just saying, there we used to be a lot of three events, and that's part of what they've told me. Or is that you this removing night with weird movies, you know. So we don't have that so? Is it our role to get involved in that? Or is it? Is it talking to? Uh, our direct department, saying it would be like enough on a permitting issue, could we? Um, you know who owns a parking line. Somebody would want to start that again. I'd negotiate or arrange for those kinds of three, five, and three. Many events, I think that um people would see the Arts commission. They would know what it is Most of the time when i'm talking about the

[169:09] they don't know what it is. They had no idea we had one. They don't know what we do, you know, I said. Oh, we can wait to see money. It's a really great job uh to think about it, you know. And but I think that um, if we could just like very joyful, simple things to the community that are, I think, that we might get. I think I have a question around mission and vision for the Commission there, because is it on the Commission to support those activities or to do those activities. Well, maybe to support them. Yeah, just be a sponsor, just you know. Brand them So, supported by your uh polar Acts commission, or something like that. I don't, you know I don't, and I don't know, because often they do include some kind of money proposition, right? And that's where it gets interesting with the Arts Commission. It's a great question you bring up.

[170:00] If we wanted to see something happen, I could give the argument, then maybe we create a grant category for it. Yeah. So there are people that want to be doing these things. So I think It's kind of us to build a bridge between them, wanting to do it, and then being able to do it. But then I agree with you emotionally but philosophically I come back to the point of. I also feel that I want us to move now on our feelings and really have that data. Um. And so I love the idea of creating a new grant category. I think it goes well well with the additional central funds at the end of the year, and ensuring that, however we move is aligned with evidence-based strategy with more information. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So Maybe like a survey is like you first path forward. I wonder if, in the interim, I think Georgia brought up a great point about polls are not always the most effective, because sometimes we just blaze over on them. Perhaps we could even have a mandate, and I think this might be like a both the easier lift and more immediate in the hand you can hold it. Each of us is a liaison of multiple organizations. If we

[171:15] mit ctl and reach out to our lives and organizations, ask them a specific set of questions, and then come back together at the the next Commission meeting and give a paragraph report on what this is, what Myle is on group said, because these these groups won their grants two hundred and fifty because of myriad of positive factors. So I think it'd be great to start our conversation there and then. Maybe that can help define whatever survey or uh research processes we move forward with. I think we have a great resource in those liaison. I would just add to that. But I think there's a lot of people in the community that might not be necessarily artists but their organizers, and would want to put together something if they saw that there was this need of somebody to put this together

[172:06] a specific thing. They go. Oh, My God, it's like a made for that that. Then we don't need. Does that make sense? I think it makes sense and apologies. I'm a broken record tonight. That sounds like a feeling, and I would love for you to tell me like I've spoken with five organizations who said this and then give quotes. You know, this is what you feel in general, you know. Really, again, data data data. I think it's because that was the thing Georgia and I uh, we're on a call for organization who unfortunately, didn't get a Geos grant, and that was one of the key points that I did call out. Is it us being data, back, and since we are stewards of tax dollars, I think it's just so important that we ensure everything is evidence-based. I'm a broken record. Sorry day. Art is about feeling just

[173:00] conversation we have after the meeting. Um and uh global home community. And um, as yeah, you know, there are people that have grant money, and for people who live in Mobile home they've never lived in a mobile home community. They've never lived below poverty, and they're making these decisions and give it makes spending money and giving things to the this community, and they're just like, you know. Free bus passes. Well, guess what I clean houses, you know office buildings at midnight, so i'm not gonna take the bus home. That was a specific thing that was said. Well, you know Oh, transportation. You know the line Scooters. Well, in my culture we don't go places by ourselves. We go as a family, and you have to have a credit card.

[174:02] Yeah, you know. So like that's why I think it's really important to speak to the people before you try and put together a program. Good point, and I have a feeling that once we get this information it's, you know. You'll find we'll find a way to combine it with with what is actually being asked. Sure, Yeah. And you know it's not like we can come up with some really cool thing, and then just hand it to staff to make happen. They're already probably at their limit of what they do with their jobs getting stuff done day after day, so we can't just give them to say, make this really pull project happen. It's tomorrow. Okay, Thank you. So so it's almost more.

[175:02] You know, part of It's about finding a partner organization that does have the resources and the motivation to put on whatever kind of thing we come up with, you know. So we're not reinventing the wheel. We're not trying to take over staff time. It's working within the parameters that we have but just trying to do more stuff. I think moving um towards other non-specific event-related pieces. I think one great idea on this list was any interest in putting our monthly bac meetings on the city's Youtube Channel? He really aligns. Well with that um interest on the D. I. Under the strength and relationships element of just making our content, and these conversations more accessible, so are there any particular hindrances, Matt and Lauren, to moving it to Youtube, And then hopefully, one day tik tok as well, you know. Let's get the youth. I think there they like. There was a study recently that I said that, like you, Aren't, using Youtube as much, are using tik tok more. So. Maybe Youtube is phase. One tik tok is phase two. I don't know what they're gonna come up with next. That's phase three, you know. Keep a a living way of connecting with the community.

[176:06] So um to answer your question. I don't know if any barriers right now other than um. You know our Communications Department that their Youtube Channel There's guidelines that put place around how the Boards and Commissions Act, you know. Get posted and interact. Let me find out more. I'll come back to you to understand that better. I was surprised. We weren't already on that we There was one. Early in the pandemic. There was one meeting that was posted to the Youtube Channel, so it it can happen. I just need to find out the rules, and so I can't promise that it will. But let me come back to November. Once, you know, we should look at how many views there are. So we know the data on that right, And it could be a revenue generator, because you can put ads in the

[177:04] So that's one check box we have, and that was Yale's idea. By the way, I had two of these things that I wrote on my card, and one was getting the word out to more underrepresented artists and groups and um more accessibility to them. Yeah, so I I I mean like having venue subsidies or um just. I just feel like there need to be more venues available to small groups in this sense that they can record it, and they're the right size for the type of product that they do. So How can we help? I think it's one of the single biggest problems that performing arts groups are having, whether whether it's theater or dance anything

[178:07] it's finding affordable space to do it. And that's why we're sitting Right Next door is roots music. You'll see it as your as you're leaving. I've been there a few times. Really full space. Great music all the time, and nobody knows about It's a question, for oh, my gosh! I don't know why I forgot your name, and this is Chris. You're Chris, but I guess that's a question More short community vitality. Is there any way we can kind of partner with downtown a lot of partnerships because I was taking the bus. Today I I passed by seven empty spaces on Pearl Street. That was horrifying for economic vitality. And i'm just wondering, you know, open studios to that wonderful work. Um, you know i'm talking about uh right near walnut and twelve, and so um a lot of spaces are actually at least so um believe it or not. Um. But yeah, I do know. That's part of the partnership. Has um otherwise

[179:10] awesome. What would you need for us from us to get that action oriented so we can. We can't uh direct their work, but I can certainly think, Chip and see where that is on their list of awesome. Thank you. Would you mind giving us an update at the next meeting? That's a great idea before you do that. And the department of community vitality help us get a survey out to all city residents asking about the arts. We would come up with the surveys. You wouldn't have to have staff time to do that, but so I would hesitate to jump to that conclusion. But that's the only thing that you need to do so. Um! Whether it's part of a bigger effort associated with the cultural plan, or also a division of uh

[180:13] vitality, is special events. We do have a senior manager. Special events. We are identifying resources, building an actual stable or special events program which we've never had before. And so in building that program Um, we would want to uh do. Some needs assessment, understanding what the needs are, and I would say for you all your job your role is to yes, still have dollars, which is a lot of fun and awesome, and determine how you want to go those dollars out in support of of staff and vice versa, and help advice, policy. And so in advising policy on a special events program which we are um working to develop in two thousand and twenty-three, I would be happy to make sure that you all are uh uh stopping the point along that way, because

[181:05] guess what we have a like downtown Management commission. They want events to happen. They like these things that people love, the things that you guys are involved in. And so it's not a bad thing if you want to see more of these things. But there we need to make sure that it's it for me to nothing. So um I um. We will consider those types of tasks in that, and that we will check in with you. Uh, as we're developing that special events program to get your input to make sure that it's It's headed the direction that you all think makes sense, and maybe it will translate into research that you want to roll out to support um events through that. So. But that's so. It's not. It's not a next meeting. That's an over a series of meeting meetings. Once we get to the yeah, that sounds good, and you know nothing in here is supposed to happen, you know, in a few weeks or next month. This is like big picture stuff, and you know part of it's

[182:08] part of it's you telling us that's not in our domain, you know we shouldn't even be talking about this because we we we have nothing to do with it in terms of our our power. But we only have three minutes to be really quick in. In in response to that, you know. Yeah, I think, paying attention to sort of what is your responsibilities? And certainly the Grants programs one. And so some sort of effort over the course of the next few months to get your arms around this to decide. If you want to allocate funding differently in the Grants, or you want to work with Mandy on the currency for public art. Um, those are things that we can talk about, and that you could do right now. Yeah. So it's a you know, a longer fuse on that one. But, uh, some of these things we're talking about like

[183:06] we're definitely reaching out hopefully, just like the we're gonna ask five thousand people with nothing to do with the yards. What do you want to see? Yeah, So that's and we'll probably do that again. We need to scope it so I can't see what it looks like. What I can say is that we have our manager of civic dialogue with us more click. So, Gordon, i'll talk and see if there's you know, some looking that we can attack, maybe with social media to kind of yeah. No. I think our city is changing quite a bit, and I think a survey it would be well time. Um,

[184:02] you know I serve on this the Convention and Visitors Bureau as part of my thing on the Arts Commission, and we were told that the last meeting that the the Boulder Creek path, one of the crown jewels of boulder has been taken off the visit Boulder website, because it's too dangerous. They've totally taken it off. So tourists have no idea about our Boulder Creek back. So there is a sign of the times for you. So the art is needed more than ever, more than ever. I I mean, yeah, we'll put out the request he doesn't have to accept right, but should he accept it, we'll put it on the agenda, and we'll give you a chance to um submit questions, and he'll probably just want to start and he's available. They do a ton,

[185:08] maybe on their own. You think of the happiest place, you know the the mural on the side of the old lazy dogs. Such a record store, or the new alleyway between uh pedestrian. I think there's certainly a ton of great synergies between the work that you all are involved in, and the work that that chips um as well. And so I don't think you have any. Yeah, I don't know if we ever got the confirmation email. But did did anybody get like a thing? So yeah, So if somebody could send maybe a list of the next year's date, so we could all get it on that. That's gonna be all new. Jennifer November. Okay? Awesome. Thank you. So I had a question, please.

[186:13] No, no, there I talk to you, you know. Remember how I asked the last few months stuff to talk about it, the retreat, so it's a compilation. So I wonder if it's not a business meeting, but in terms of like um whether we do a second um. Is that something that we have to decide twenty twenty-four cycle, The two thousand and twenty-three cycle is set, and people are all you know we're ready to launch, and so making changes right now would delay that. So I would recommend that any of those conversations about adjustments to the Grants program would hold off until we start the conversation in June.

[187:14] I'd love to bring some of that. Yeah, let's make sure we keep it opening person. Yeah, Personally, i'd like to see those discussions start before June that way. When it gets to June. We have, like some tangible things that's on the table that we can really discuss and make choices. We want to be it this way or that way. So brainstorming pre June decision making June. Yeah. And you know, maybe there's i'm all about subcommittees, you know that way. People can like you all did the that thing together. That was awesome. So maybe there's people two people that want to need about this thing, and two people don't want to meet about this other thing that way. The work can be done outside of our monthly meetings and brought to the monthly meeting all you know coherent and and

[188:03] organized. Alright, Well, let's see. Oh, nine. Oh, four. We're on overtime, all right, so can I. Just take one minute it is not available, for I won't be either. So um So the the last agenda item is the two thousand and twenty-three priorities uh. Generally speaking, we start the conversation now about a message to city council. We have not gotten the information about how they want that delivered yet. Um! So I can't say to you like, here's what you need to discuss Even um. So we will save that for the next meeting. And um do we have two people that would be into I two people interested in helping to draft the letter, since it sounds like the video Hasn't been fully approved. So I think it'd be much more engaging for city council. I was told they thoroughly enjoyed whoever did the video last year for their letter. Um, I think that's still a great idea. I mean the work plan two thousand and twenty-three video That staff made

[189:13] way better than so. Yeah, I don't think that that that idea should die yet. I'll. I'll just point out that last year what they asked for was a couple of bullets, right? And so definitely like, if someone wants to work with me in terms of like. It's the information I could share it. I can't guarantee you there'll be anything either way we need the content you need the content for yourselves, anyway. What is it so any of the do? We have a couple of people that would be interested in putting it helping put together the draft of the letter Somebody had emailed me. That would be great, but I I guess I

[190:00] because I don't I don't have any information yet. So what I think at this point, what we can say is that we can start the conversation about you setting your priorities for the arts community next year, like we usually do in the form of a letter. Yeah, and then it'll be useful to you, anyway, regardless of how i'd recommend all the notes that people wrote. That's not getting collected and and zoom and child's way. So that will probably be really good input into a November conversation on what I priority. That's all right. Yeah. I just want to find out what last year and our November meeting happens. After that we won't even have the discussion. So there's to be a way to spend more time on the city, or if they have a deadline between our meetings, I will back for extension, because I mean worst case scenario is within twenty-four point full type. We need more money. Each point is the same thing. Yeah, I mean that's, that's the endgame. But

[191:06] are there, You know, a couple of people that are interested in helping put it together. I'm happy to be like one of the people. Is there somebody else who. I don't want to write the letter, but I do. It would be helpful. Not just. We need more money we need. We need. Yeah, Yeah, I I agree. I agree. Um, all right. So if you can, if you have ideas, even though you don't want to write the letter um email me your ideas. Perhaps if you come up with some stuff that you'd like to see in the letter, email it to me, and when you'll aid and I me will have those letters that could be sent to me. I would go to see them. Yeah, alright, anything else, you know. We have a couple of minutes if you if you guys want to, I mean

[192:07] free forum discussion, I would like to say how much I appreciate it and how you do it. It's been wonderful to you for another year. Thank you, Matt, and you know I think we said it earlier. We'll say it again. Thank you, Staff, for all the the hard work you do, putting up with us right Well, with that what's in there? I wish we had just for the feeling.

[193:01] There you are,