May 12, 2026 — Board of Zoning Adjustment Regular Meeting

Transcript

Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:02] Thomas Remke, CoB: Alright, we're recording now.

[0:04] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay, so this is a meeting of the Board of Zoning Adjustment,

[0:11] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Today, we have two items,

[0:15] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And… but my understanding is before we start, discussing those items, we're gonna swear in our newest member, Craig Hammond. So, Robbie or Dashauna.

[0:29] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Turn it over to you to do that.

[0:35] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Thank you. And, Craig, I will ask you to please repeat after me, the oath of office, and, if you could raise your

[0:46] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Right hand, so we can see it on camera, that would be the only physical request.

[0:51] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Sounds good.

[0:53] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Okay.

[0:54] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: So, I, Craig Hammond.

[0:57] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: I, Craig Hammond.

[0:59] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Do solemnly swear or affirm?

[1:03] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Do you solemnly swear or affirm?

[1:06] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: that I will support the Constitution of the United States of America.

[1:11] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: that I will support the Constitution of the United States of America.

[1:16] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: and of the state of Colorado.

[1:19] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: and of the state of Colorado.

[1:21] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: and the Charter and Ordinances of the City of Boulder.

[1:25] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: and the charter and the ordinances of the City of Boulder.

[1:29] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: And faithfully perform the duties of the office.

[1:34] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: And faithfully perform the duties of the office.

[1:37] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: of a member of the Board of Zoning Adjustment, which I am about to enter.

[1:43] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: of a member of the Board of Zoning Adjustment, of which I am now a member.

[1:50] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Thank you. You are now officially sworn in as the newest member of BOSA.

[1:55] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: And, just to confirm before we go back to our regular proceedings, Robbie, Craig will need to sign a document with the City Clerk, correct?

[2:04] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Correct, and I believe Thomas and I will take care of that part after this meeting.

[2:09] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Wonderful. Thank you very much, and back to you, Madam Chair.

[2:13] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay, so, just to review the rules,

[2:20] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: To… for… for affirmative passage of, each item, you'll need… we'll need 3 votes,

[2:29] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: out of the five of us, any less than three votes, and the item will not be approved.

[2:38] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And… So, as I said, there were two… two items. The first item is, BOZA… BOZ2026-0001.

[2:54] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: 519 Valley View Drive.

[2:58] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Robbie, do you want to kick off the staff presentation?

[3:03] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Yeah, before we do that, I just want to do a little quick round of introductions, from the board members, since we do have a first-time new board member with us.

[3:14] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Considering the items tonight, if we could just do kind of a quick round with the four board members and staff who are here, I don't think it should take too long, but that way we can welcome Craig properly in, so he knows who we all are.

[3:28] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Yeah, good idea. Yeah, I should have done that. I can…

[3:34] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Well, I guess, Drew, you want to go first?

[3:41] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Sure! I'm Drew Eisenberg. I'd say I joined the board back in, 2023. I lived in Boulder since, 2010. And I actually went through the BOSA process, applying for variants, and, got very interested in the board, and

[4:01] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: So I joined it.

[4:03] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Yeah, good to meet you.

[4:09] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay, Sean, you want to go ahead?

[4:12] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Yeah, I'm Sean Haney, I've been on this board for a little over a year now. I started at the beginning of last year, and I've been a resident of Boulder since 2022.

[4:23] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: It's good to have you on the board.

[4:25] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great.

[4:28] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And… I… I have, lived in Boulder since 2007, and I've been on the BOSA board since, I think, 2022?

[4:42] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And… yeah, I joined just because I wanted to get more involved in the community, and this seemed like an interesting board, and it had an opening. So, welcome, welcome to the board.

[4:58] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And if, Craig, if you wanted to just give us a tiny bit of background about how long you've lived in Boulder, etc, feel free.

[5:07] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Sounds good, great to meet all of you.

[5:09] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: I moved to Boulder about 10 years ago, just outside of city limits there in Gunborough, and I bought a house, about 3 years ago, 4 years ago now, in Boulder, and so kind of excited to be a resident of the city of Boulder, even though I lived half a mile down the road, just outside of the city of Boulder. And similar to you, Katie, I wanted to give back to the community.

[5:32] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: I'm excited to join you all and help out where I can.

[5:38] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Just curious, is your line of work at all related to,

[5:42] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: like, architecture, construction… I'm an engineer, so my line of work has nothing to do with, boza.

[5:50] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: It is not, it is not, yeah. I'm a software engineer.

[5:52] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Correct.

[5:55] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great.

[5:56] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And Jill just popped in, is getting ready, so we can let Jill get settled in,

[6:04] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): We want to kind of jump to Deshauna and Thomas and then myself, and that way we don't put Jill on the spot immediately.

[6:12] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Okay.

[6:13] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: So…

[6:14] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Craig, we've met briefly, virtually. I'm Deshauna Sasueta, and I am your City Attorney's Office Representative. I have been advising BOSA since April of 2025, and

[6:27] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: excited, you're my second person I've sworn in in this capacity, so it's a time of change with Boza recently, but I'm happy that we're fully

[6:35] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: staffed up, and happy to have you aboard. And if you have any questions, and this is true for anyone, I'm always happy to be a resource, and feel free to reach out to me.

[6:45] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Oh, I've lived in the… I've lived in the county for 10 years, but I don't live in the city, so…

[6:53] Thomas Remke, CoB: Hey, Craig. We've also met briefly online, but I'm Thomas Remke, and I'm the Board Secretary for BOSA, as well as for the Planning Board.

[7:01] Thomas Remke, CoB: And I've been, working with the city since December of 2023.

[7:08] Thomas Remke, CoB: And…

[7:08] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Hmm.

[7:09] Thomas Remke, CoB: And I live in, I do live in Boulder, I live in South Boulder area.

[7:15] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then I will go ahead and jump in. We've met multiple times before, Craig, but I am the staff liaison to BOSA, and I've been involved with Boza for the better part of my nearly 14 years working for the City of Boulder.

[7:31] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, I've seen members come and go, and it's always nice to see new members come in, so welcome aboard, and this should be a good meeting for your first one. So, with that, if Jill is available, we can let Jill do a little introduction before jumping into the

[7:50] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): First item.

[7:54] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Hi.

[7:55] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: I am sorry, guys, but I'm in Germany.

[7:59] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: And it's the middle of the night.

[8:01] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: So, it looks like you guys are still using my old email address, so we'll take care of that after the meeting and resolve it. I'd like to be off-camera, but I don't know if we're allowed to do that or not.

[8:15] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And Deshauna, I'll let you kind of speak to that.

[8:21] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: It is preferable to have all voting members on camera, due to the public hearing component of the applications, and so if it's…

[8:31] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: doable for your connection, that would be the request. Otherwise, I do want to point out that we have a quorum without you, Jill, if you need to step away.

[8:42] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Yeah, I mean, ideally, I'm saying hi and welcome to the new members, and then I'll come in next meeting, because there's been a communication glitch, and I apologize for my part in that, but I need to get my correct email address up there.

[8:55] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Because it is the middle of the night here, and I just happened to wake up and see the text from Thomas, so I'm…

[9:03] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Saying hello. Do you have a quorum?

[9:06] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Without me?

[9:08] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Yes, we do. Okay.

[9:10] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: So… My preference would be to excuse myself and catch up with you next time.

[9:16] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And that would be totally fine. Jill, thank you for stopping and letting us know, and we will get this figured out for the next meeting.

[9:23] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Sounds great. Thank you so much. Good luck this evening. Thanks.

[9:26] Thomas Remke, CoB: Still, safe travels.

[9:27] Jill Lester, BOZA Chair: Goodnight.

[9:30] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So with that, Katie, are you okay being the interim chair for the meeting?

[9:37] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Oh, you're muted.

[9:41] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: I said, sure, absolutely. So.

[9:46] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I think Thomas needs to do a little…

[9:49] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): preliminary presentation, if you're still doing those, Thomas, before we jump into the first item.

[9:56] Thomas Remke, CoB: Oh yeah, sure, do we want to go ahead with those, rules of participation.

[10:02] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): If you don't mind, and then we will jump into the first item, promise.

[10:07] Thomas Remke, CoB: Sure, give me just a second to pull those up.

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[12:08] Thomas Remke, CoB: And that concludes our Rules of Decorum, so I'll pass it back to you, Chair.

[12:14] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay,

[12:17] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Robbie, so, the first, as I said earlier, prematurely, the first item is BOZ2026-0001, on Valley View Drive. And Robbie, I'll just hand it over to you.

[12:36] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Thank you, Madam Chair.

[12:38] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And…

[12:39] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Up on the screen, you should see the presentation. If not, just let me know, but I will go ahead and jump right into the first item. Again, this is docket number BOZ2026-0001. The address is 519 Valley View Drive, and this is a setback variance.

[12:59] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): As part of a proposal for a new detached one-car garage on the property that currently has no off-street or sheltered parking, the applicant is requesting a variance to the rear north yard

[13:11] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): along Alpine Avenue, which is considered a secondary front yard due to the property's through-lot classification.

[13:18] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): This will be a variance to the rear yard setback standards for an accessory building on a through-lot in the RL1 zoning district. The resulting rear north setback from the proposed detached garage will be approximately 0 feet.

[13:33] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Where 55 feet is required and no structure exists today. Section of the land use code to be modified, Section 971, Boulder Revised Code 1981.

[13:44] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And up on the screen, you see the location of the lot. I am referencing the term through lot, which is not an official term, but, it… it's pretty much a lot that…

[13:55] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): their rear yard backs up against another street, and I'll get into the history of why this variance is coming forward to Boza in the next slide, but up on the screen, you can see the location of the five

[14:10] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Written correspondences in support.

[14:13] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Of the variance request, it is, the three neighbors to the east and west, directly to the east and west.

[14:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then two neighbors across the street, across the Valley View Drive to the south, as you can see on the map, and this property is zoned R01.

[14:31] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And the lot size is around 6,600 square feet, so a little below the minimum lot size for the typical RL1 zoning district. A little bit in the way of the history is the home was permitted

[14:44] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And built circa 1942, and the subdivision and the current configuration of the quote-unquote through-lot was done, around that time. So it has been in this configuration for quite some time.

[14:57] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): The setback issue, what is requesting the variance

[15:03] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Right now, and let me just check…

[15:06] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): What is requesting or requiring the variance was caught at building permit, and that was done through BLD ACC2025-00106.

[15:18] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And… and then BRC972D, which is the code section that references or refers to the through-lot, states that where a rear yard backs onto a street.

[15:31] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): The rear yard shall have minimum landscape setback equal to the minimum front yard landscape setback from a street for all buildings and uses.

[15:41] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So typically, there is one 55-foot setback, front yard setback, for an accessory structure. Because this property's backyard backs onto another street, so it has two frontages.

[15:54] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): That 55-foot accessory structure setback occurs twice.

[16:00] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): On the property, so it's 55 feet from the front yard, which is the south property line, and then also 55 feet from the north property line, which is the rear property line, because of this code section that states it essentially acts like a front yard landscape setback.

[16:16] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, they have, for any detached accessory building, they are required, essentially, two 55-foot setbacks, one from the south and one from the north.

[16:26] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then, I did look into some of the neighboring larger accessory structures, if you had a chance to drive around.

[16:33] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): and look at that, and you probably noticed there are some miscellaneous sheds and larger buildings along, Alpine Avenue, which is essentially treated like the backyard for all of these properties. I did not see any, clear variances that were issued.

[16:52] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Based on my quick search through the records, the property owner may have more on that, but, may not. But all of the larger structures, especially the two properties to the west, they've been there for at least 30 years, likely longer than that, so they have been in existence for quite some time now. They are not new structures.

[17:12] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then I also looked at solar access, side yard wall articulation, side yard bulk plane and height, and due to the location and the dimensions of this structure, there are no issues with any of those. Again, this has already gone through a round of review, building permit review.

[17:31] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Where not just zoning, but also engineering and building have taken a look at this, and it just happens that zoning presented this as a setback issue, and that is why the applicant is in front of the board.

[17:46] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): This evening.

[17:48] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And this just gives you an idea of some of the existing site conditions on the property. You can see the Alpine Avenue to the north, and this is essentially going into the backyard.

[18:00] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then this just gives you some… a somewhat older street view, but it gives you an idea of the front of the house. And then also, this is a street view, the north part of the property, along Alpine Avenue. So this is where that new driveway and site access would essentially be constructed, is where these, the shrubs are located.

[18:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So what the board is considering this evening for the first docket number is a setback variance request, again, for a rear north setback. The request would be for approximately 0 feet, where 55 feet is required and no structure exists today.

[18:39] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And on this, visual, I showed the 55-foot front yard setback. It just happens that the property line is 110 feet long.

[18:50] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, the 55-foot setback from both the south and the north hits right at the same point, so there really is no buy right or meeting code building envelope for an accessory structure on this property, because you're required 55 feet from the south and 55 feet from the north.

[19:09] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So they're…

[19:10] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Really isn't a code-compliant location that somebody could put any accessory structure requiring a building permit, on this property, especially in the backyard.

[19:23] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then this just gives you an idea of the dimensions, and the height, and just earlier, the overall location.

[19:32] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then this gives you kind of a 3D view of what the proposed structure

[19:37] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Is going to look like.

[19:40] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And the applicant did respond to criterion H1 and H5, and that is what staff used, when evaluating and determining our recommendation.

[19:51] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Staff is recommending, is supporting and recommending approval of the first variance item on tonight's agenda. It does meet all of the pertinent criteria, and that includes H1, A through D.

[20:08] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): and H5A through D. We also received, a significant amount of neighbor… letters from neighbors in support of this application. And then we also feel that

[20:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Given the orientation, of the lot, that is a through lot, it is essentially penalized with two 55-foot,

[20:29] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): setbacks, that, there is some undue hardship for any sort of development on this lot, especially in accessory structure. So with that, staff is in support of this variance request at 519 Valley View Drive, and

[20:45] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): We are, recommending approval.

[20:48] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, I will leave it at that, and hand it back over to you, Madam Chair, and if anybody has any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer those.

[21:01] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Does anyone have any questions for Robbie?

[21:09] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: This might not be your scope, Robbie, but, on the survey, there was a planting easement on the north of the property. Do you know what that refers to?

[21:19] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I do not, but it… I don't believe it was presented, as an issue from

[21:27] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Engineering, who has looked at this already through one round of review, so apologies, I don't know exactly what that is, but it didn't seem to be an issue from engineering and transportation.

[21:37] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Like, I've just never seen that style of…

[21:39] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I know, it's new.

[21:45] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Well, if no one has any further questions for Robbie, we can move on to the applicant presentation, portion. Thomas, is there… is the applicant available to,

[22:04] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: provide… a presentation?

[22:07] Thomas Remke, CoB: I believe so, I just promoted them, so, I just gave access to Brad Birch.

[22:13] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great. So Brad, whenever you're ready, you can, Provide your presentation.

[22:22] Brad Burch: Okay. Hi, board. Brad Burch.

[22:25] Brad Burch: I am a, resident of Boulder since…

[22:29] Thomas Remke, CoB: Sorry, Brad, one second. Do we want… do we want to start a timer?

[22:34] Thomas Remke, CoB: Is that, something we normally do for applicant presentations?

[22:38] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Typically, we don't, because I believe they're given 10 to 15 minutes, so rarely do they hit that, but .

[22:44] Thomas Remke, CoB: Okay, that sounds good.

[22:45] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Brad thinks he can, say his words in less than 10-15 minutes. I don't think we need it for… for the applicant presentation.

[22:54] Thomas Remke, CoB: Okay, thanks, just wanted to check.

[22:56] Thomas Remke, CoB: Go ahead.

[22:57] Brad Burch: Yeah, and…

[22:58] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Oh, I was just gonna say, if you could introduce yourself and, just, where, where you live and, you know, who you're representing.

[23:07] Brad Burch: Okay. Again, my name is Brad Burch. I am a resident of Boulder since, 1996. CU Buff, stayed here.

[23:17] Brad Burch: I live downtown, my wife and I both work downtown, so we enjoy…

[23:24] Brad Burch: Walking to work every day versus driving, which is a nice perk.

[23:28] Brad Burch: This project is for an acquaintance of mine who has…

[23:35] Brad Burch: taken over the house from his parents, which have aged out of the house. They've owned the house for 30 years.

[23:42] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Brett.

[23:43] Brad Burch: Yeah.

[23:43] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: Sorry, sorry to interrupt, but could you please share an address for the record? You could use a business address, that's fine, that's just one of those, matters that we like to put on the record when people are presenting.

[23:55] Brad Burch: Sure, of course.

[23:56] Brad Burch: A good address is 1301 Canyon Boulevard.

[24:01] Brad Burch: Suite number 120.

[24:10] Brad Burch: Okay, so, yeah, Rob is… Rob is…

[24:14] Brad Burch: got this house from his parents, who were there 30 years. He is interested in hopefully trying to move away from fossil fuels and stuff, and so what originally started this was he has no way to, to charge his EV.

[24:34] Brad Burch: And, you know, dragging cables across the sidewalks and things was…

[24:39] Brad Burch: Becoming a little bit difficult, and obviously neighbors weren't happy about that and everything.

[24:44] Brad Burch: And then he's, you know, Rob's a long time,

[24:48] Brad Burch: Boulder resident, too, so he's got the requisite

[24:51] Brad Burch: bikes and things, so there was little need for storage. We based the footprint of…

[24:59] Brad Burch: the property off of that EV, or the garage off of that EV, which is actually…

[25:07] Brad Burch: fairly large, it's a Rivian truck.

[25:10] Brad Burch: So, you know, that was the basis of our footprint. We… we… started with…

[25:15] Brad Burch: You know, 3 feet around all sides, and then maybe an extra foot and a half so we could load the truck.

[25:22] Brad Burch: But… Other than that, seems fairly straightforward. We'd,

[25:31] Brad Burch: We'd like to make sure that, that… the… the…

[25:35] Brad Burch: New structure works with the house and the character of the neighborhood.

[25:40] Brad Burch: So… And back to… there was one question about that easement.

[25:46] Brad Burch: That's been another little thing that we've had to learn about. The… the property was plotted in 1941,

[25:55] Brad Burch: And the plot… the plat easement, or the plat says that the easements expired in 1967, January 1st, 1967. So we've checked that with the county, we've checked it with attorneys, we've checked it with, actually the city, and that easement, no longer exists.

[26:17] Brad Burch: So, that's… that's what I have.

[26:23] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Oh, okay, thank you, Brad. Does anybody have any questions for Brad?

[26:38] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Hearing none,

[26:43] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Thomas, do you… can you tell whether… has… has anyone from the community, joined and, interested in making a presentation?

[26:59] Thomas Remke, CoB: Thanks, Katie. I know two of these names on here are with the next applicant team, but the other one I'm not sure about, so we'll just go ahead and open up the…

[27:08] Thomas Remke, CoB: Public participation opportunity for this one to members of the public.

[27:12] Thomas Remke, CoB: If you would like to speak to this item, please go ahead and raise your hand on Zoom.

[27:17] Thomas Remke, CoB: And, we'll call on you and give you 3 minutes to speak.

[27:24] Thomas Remke, CoB: And I'm not seeing any hands coming up, so I'm not sure if we have anybody to speak to this item.

[27:30] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay.

[27:31] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Well, if no one has… if there's no community,

[27:38] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: questions, and no one has any questions for Brad, then I would just open up the discussion for the board.

[27:47] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So, I guess I'll just, drew, I'll start with you. Do you have any,

[27:55] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Comments or, sort of, you know, observations about the application?

[28:01] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Yeah.

[28:02] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Yeah, I guess in short, you know, I think it meets the criteria,

[28:09] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: I can talk a little bit about why. You know, obviously, it's an irregular lot, having, you know, essentially two front yards, and so… and additionally, the north property line is offset from the street.

[28:25] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: You know, you wouldn't want a structure, you know, right up against the sidewalk, but actually there is about 22 feet away from the street, and that's in line with the other neighboring houses, so it fits well within the neighborhood.

[28:41] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: So… I could go through the criteria, but

[28:46] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: I would be in support of this variance.

[28:51] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: And you're muted, yeah.

[28:53] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay, sorry about that. Thank you. Craig, I know you're new, but, do you have any, comments you want to add, or just sort of initial observations after hearing the presentations?

[29:10] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Yeah, I'm new, so I'm not entirely, you know, kind of learning a little bit about this, but from my perspective, it meets criteria as well. It's an irregular lot, kind of fits in with the neighborhood, and it's similar there to,

[29:26] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: The neighbor on the west side, essentially a very similar structure there.

[29:32] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay.

[29:33] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And Sean, do you have any, any comments?

[29:38] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Yeah, I'm inclined to, approve, because it does seem to meet all the criteria, specifically, 1A1 and 1AB. The lot, for some reason, that particular block has both the front and

[29:54] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Backyard frontage being basically two front yards, but especially that particular block has…

[30:01] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: that super wide right-of-way to the north of it, even though the road and curb is much farther away from the lot line, whereas both the block east and the block west don't seem to have that. I'm not sure why that is, but I think that effectively

[30:20] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: means it meets, H1A1 and H1B, and then H1C because of that,

[30:31] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: front yard set back in the back, it's pretty much impossible to basically do anything in that backyard, no matter where they place the garage or how big they make it, just because of that unique situation. And then it also meets, H1…

[30:47] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: D, for same reason, and then also, it meets all 5 requirements of, H5.

[30:59] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great. Thank you, Sean, for going through those criteria.

[31:04] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And for my part, I too agree that it seems to meet the criteria, as Sean noted. And I also was persuaded

[31:15] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: just from the letters of support, you know, I think there were at least 5 letters of support from the neighbors, and that… that was persuasive, as well as the arguments about, you know, it being a rather high-trafficked area when

[31:29] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: people come through there to, you know, park nearby to go hike Mount Sinitas.

[31:36] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And so, trying to charge the… his… his car on the street seems like, an unnecessary hazard, so this seems like a great solution. So I was persuaded by that as well. So I, too, am in support.

[31:54] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So, with that, would someone like to make a motion on this application?

[32:10] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: if… I certainly can do it, but Drew, do you want to make a motion?

[32:16] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Sure. I'll make a motion to approve, BOZ… I don't know the number. 000…

[32:23] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Four zeros and a one.

[32:26] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: This is the first one?

[32:29] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: 2026, and then four zeros and a 1.

[32:32] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Okay. ViaZ20260001.

[32:38] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: And I make a motion to approve it.

[32:41] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great.

[32:42] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Well, I… I second Drew's motion.

[32:48] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So with that, let's take a vote. Craig, you want to cast your vote?

[32:55] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: I'm in favor.

[32:56] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay?

[32:58] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Drew?

[32:58] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Alright?

[33:00] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Sean?

[33:01] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Aye.

[33:03] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And I, for me as well,

[33:06] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So with that, the application is approved.

[33:11] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And thank you, Brad, for your presentation.

[33:15] Brad Burch: Thank you all so much.

[33:18] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Alright, have a great day.

[33:21] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So with that, we can move on.

[33:25] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: to the second application, this is, BOZ202600002. And this one is on 6th Street. So, Robbie, you want to go through your presentation?

[33:44] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Yes, thank you, Madam Chair. Again, this is docket BOZ20260002.

[33:53] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): The address is 27706th Street, and this is, also a setback variance.

[33:59] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): As part of a proposal to replace and modify the roof over an existing single-story portion of the non-standard single-family home, the applicant is requesting a variance to both the minimum interior side north and the combined side yard setbacks for a principal building in the RL1 zoning district.

[34:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): For the minimum setback, the resulting interior side north setback will be approximately 3.8 feet, where 5 feet is required, and approximately 3.8 feet exists today. For the combined side yard setback, the resulting interior side north setback will be approximately 3.8 feet.

[34:38] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Where 6.7 feet is required, and approximately 3.8 feet exists today. Section of the land use code to be modified, Section 971, Boulder Revised Code 1981. And up there on the screen, you see the location of the subject property at 2776th Street.

[34:57] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And we did receive, or the applicant did receive, one letter of support from the most impacted neighbor, which is the neighbor to the north at 2800 6th Street.

[35:09] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And this property also has an interesting easement history. We won't get too deep into it, but it is the reason why

[35:17] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): They are seeking a variance

[35:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): This evening, but again, there was one letter of support, and that was from the property to the north.

[35:28] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And a little bit of zoning background, it is zoned R01. The lot is around 6,383 square feet, which is, somewhat smaller than the minimum lot size for a typical R01

[35:41] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): zoned property, which is 7,000 square feet. The history, the home was built circa 1954. I did a little snooping and digging, and did happen to find that in 1971, a variance, was brought to who was then called Bozaba.

[35:59] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): That is what… essentially what Boza was called before Boza.

[36:04] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): was Boza. It was, docket number 7127, and that was to allow, in addition to the home on the north setback, the subject property line for essentially, extending the existing home along that property line.

[36:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And within that variance application, there was a 10-foot city-owned easement, now vacated, that was referenced.

[36:28] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And the current homeowners did purchase the property in 2015 per the application materials. I even reached out to some of my colleagues in engineering who are a little more familiar and kind of deal with easement matters, and they were having a hard time trying to find the exact history of

[36:47] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): The subject easement. But it was there.

[36:51] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): It essentially is not there today, so the house as it sits today,

[36:57] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): is… has been in that configuration for quite some time. The existing and proposed floor area, as a part of this project, there is going to be no change to the floor area. It is just a modification of the roof within a setback, which is what's requiring

[37:14] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): the variance tonight. And then, same with the building coverage. There is no modification or change to the building coverage, and both of those are still, to this day, below the maximum allowance for the property. And, same holds true for solar access, side yard wall articulation, side yard bulk plan, and height.

[37:32] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Due to the design and the location of the project, which is essentially a roof modification and the raising of the roof, no issues have been presented at this point, and all of this will be verified at building permit when that time comes, and pending the results of tonight.

[37:52] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): This gives you an idea of the, existing conditions of the house. You can see there in the… both the survey

[38:01] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then also the aerial, the northeastern corner of what is out there today is what the board is considering tonight. That's where that modification, the roof modification, is going to be taking place. And then we have a street view.

[38:14] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): of the property from the front along 6th Street. It looks like a one-story house from the front, but because of, topography, it does go down, and you essentially have what we would consider a two-story house. But the addition that the board is consider… or the

[38:32] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Existing part of the home that the board is considering tonight, and the modification of the roof, is to what would otherwise just be a one-story

[38:41] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Portion of the home.

[38:43] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And this gives you an idea of, kind of, what is out there today and what's proposed. You can see the referenced easement up there, and then also all of the proposed and existing setbacks.

[38:55] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I did, mention and denote that there are technically two variances that the board is considering. They do go hand in hand, but with any single family.

[39:05] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): property in the RL1 zoning district, you actually have two setback requirements, side setback requirements, that have to be met. The first one is the outright minimum setback, so any addition

[39:17] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): To a home or any new construction has to meet the minimum setback of 5 feet.

[39:23] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And the number one setback element is the minimum interior side setback. That's the minimum setback requirement. And that is a request for approximately 3.8 feet, which is what is out there today, where 5 is the minimum. So 5 is the minimum setback for any side yard.

[39:42] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then we kind of jumped to the second element, which is the combined side yard setback.

[39:47] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And what this is saying is that total of both side yards for any new construction or addition

[39:55] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): to a house has to have a minimum combined side setback of 15 feet. So that's just a little bit…

[40:02] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): extra of an element. So, because the existing south setback to the home, you can see, or down is south, is around 8.3 feet. The difference of 15 and 8.3 is what the north setback would have to meet to meet that combined setback requirement.

[40:20] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So that is why, the request is for approximately 3.8 feet to recognize what is out there today, where 6.7 feet is required, and that's the difference of 15 and 8.3. That's where we get the 6.7.

[40:35] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, they are technically separate variances, but I know in the past the board has somewhat grouped them together, because if one is approved.

[40:45] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Pretty much both are approved, because they are the same request. But we did want to call those out separately, because they are technically two separate, setback standards that have to be met.

[40:56] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And I can go into more detail in terms of what the combined is and the difference with minimum. If the board needs me to, more than happy to, but that is why you see two setback variance requests in front of you this evening.

[41:10] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then these are just some, drawings, proposed elevations, and you can see on the upper image, this is the side view, so from that north property line, which is the side property line, you can see the existing, kind of, one-story wing, essentially.

[41:27] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And that is likely the variance, that was touched on back in the early 1970s.

[41:34] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): But because the roof is to be modified, that is a change of design from what was presented, 50 years ago.

[41:44] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): More than 50 years ago, and because of that, a new variance would have to be granted for, essentially, in the lower image, that small

[41:52] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): blue triangle. It's pretty small, so I'm not sure if you can see it, but that is the portion of the new roof that is not meeting both the minimum and the combined.

[42:05] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So that kind of blue triangle is what is requiring the variance, rather than…

[42:11] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): deconstructing and pushing the, existing wall of the home back to where it meets that 6.7, the applicant is requesting just to seek a variance so they can do that roof modification and roof change within that setback.

[42:28] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then this just gives you some lower-level floor plan, which is the upper left image. And then we've got the upper-level floor plan, which is the lower right image, just giving you the idea of the layout of the house.

[42:41] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): They're essentially wanting to fix up and bring into modern day the existing flex space for the home, and they would prefer not to tear down roughly about 3 feet of that wall to meet the setbacks. They would rather just maintain that and still do the work to the roof.

[43:03] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So with that, staff is supporting this variance request as it has been presented, and is recommending approval, to the board. The applicant did respond to criterion H1 and H5, and staff used that when determining our recommendation.

[43:22] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Because of the existing conditions, the somewhat…

[43:27] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): convoluted history in terms of that easement that did likely impact the location of property lines, after the house was originally constructed.

[43:38] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And because there is, neighbor support, especially from the most… arguably the most impacted neighbor, the neighbor to the north who did provide, written support.

[43:49] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Staff does feel that this is an appropriate request, that it meets all the pertinent variance review criteria, and again, we are recommending support as it has been presented within the application materials.

[44:03] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And with that, I will hand it back over to you, Madam Chair, but if anybody has any questions for me, I'd be more than happy to answer those.

[44:15] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Does anyone have any questions for Robbie?

[44:22] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: I guess just for my understanding, the easement… because in the original plotting of the house, the easement looked like it was there, there was a gap.

[44:32] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: But then it was vacated, and so… who owns that land? Or, I mean, what… isn't it an easement, like, saying that it's someone else's land, but you can… you can't use it? But it looks like it's, like, city-owned land, so it's not an easement.

[44:46] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: What's that?

[44:48] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): What is it? It's confusing, and Deshauna, you may be able to give legal talk to this if needed, but, we did… I did reach out, like I said, to my,

[44:58] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): engineering friends who kind of… they're the ones who oversee the easements. They were having a difficult time, but it does appear that the land was essentially granted back

[45:08] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): to the property owners, because it was originally city… like a city right-of-way, like you'd see for a street, and it probably was intended to be a street at one point, which is why it kind of aligns with the… whatever street is perpendicular to 6th Street. But this was granted back, and due to legal

[45:27] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): processes, it appears that the vast majority, if not

[45:32] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): all of what was that 10-foot easement was granted to the property to the north, which is 2800 North Street. A lot of times, it's split equally.

[45:41] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): for some reason, with this one, and of course, I… I'm not familiar with, kind of, why things are done when it comes to easement vacations, but it does appear that the majority, if not all of it, was granted to the property to the north, which is why they have a now larger, kind of, side setback, and this property has a smaller site setback.

[46:01] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, Dashauna, feel free to correct me, tell me to stop talking about easement stuff, but, it does appear that

[46:10] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): for some reason, it was given back to the property owners from the city, and this is the orientation of the lots that was, I guess, agreed upon legally.

[46:22] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: And Robbie is correct, when an easement is extinguished, unless, a new easement is dedicated to a different entity or person, it automatically reverts back to the original landowner.

[46:37] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Okay.

[46:41] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Thank you.

[46:42] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Craig or Sean, do you guys have any questions for Robbie?

[46:51] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay, hearing none, we can move on to the applicant presentation. Thomas, has someone from the applicant's side checked in?

[47:05] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: For the presentation.

[47:10] Thomas Remke, CoB: Yeah, they're rejoining, as a panelist now, so…

[47:14] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great.

[47:16] Thomas Remke, CoB: And, Robbie, I'm not sure if you are… if you know,

[47:21] Thomas Remke, CoB: Which member from the applicant team will be sharing the presentation?

[47:25] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I believe Kim will, but we have both the property owners and

[47:30] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Kim with us, so I will let them decide who wants to speak to the board.

[47:35] Thomas Remke, CoB: I'll go ahead and give them both permission.

[47:39] KimCattau: I can jump in if I'm ready to roll here.

[47:42] KimCattau: I'm Kim, I'm with Slope Architecture, representing the homeowners here. I am a resident of unincorporated Boulder County, but my business is here in City of Boulder, so if you need an address for that, that's 3012 Sterling Circle, Suite 250.

[47:59] KimCattau: 80301.

[48:06] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great, and you can just feel free to, start your presentation.

[48:10] KimCattau: Okay, yeah, I don't think I have anything graphic, because Robbie already kind of used all our graphics. Just to kind of reiterate some of the… that the property has kind of existed in the same footprint for a long time. It seems like there's a lot of confusion about this kind of easement, not easement. I've gotten as many different answers as Robbie has.

[48:26] KimCattau: Talk to the surveyors and their understanding of the title, we're reading it. It still seems like, as far as I can tell, nobody owns or wants to own that 10-foot swath of land.

[48:37] KimCattau: And honestly, if the property line was in the middle of that 10-foot swath, we wouldn't be here, because everything would be complying with setbacks. So, how we got here, we don't really know, but the house has been there, in this configuration for a long time, over a couple different builds, but even the one more recent one in the 70s.

[48:56] KimCattau: The current owners would just like to be able to update the lower level of the house. The ceiling in this section of the house is only, like, barely over seven and a half feet right now, so, you know, lowering it doesn't make any sense, so they, they've also continued to have

[49:11] KimCattau: leakage issues, because that roof was built, like, dead flat, and it just, no matter how many times you replace the membrane, it's going to continue to leak. So they said, if we're going to invest in this lower level, we want to make it function and be waterproof.

[49:25] KimCattau: So that led us to kind of, okay, if we want to raise that roof to get a decent slope on it and get standard, kind of asphalt shingles on there, now we're, you know, realized we had this kind of variance request, but we felt like it's a pretty

[49:39] KimCattau: insignificant change to what's there. The increase in the height in that area of nonconformance is pretty minimal. Also, this is one of those lots that

[49:50] KimCattau: increasing square footage is quite difficult to pull off due to other zoning things with the… just the topography and everything. A second story is…

[49:57] KimCattau: is unlikely, to be, well, at least very large on this side of the street. So, I think the lower level square footage is just even more important for their family, and so getting that roof replaced so they can keep it watertight and then be able to invest and update, the lower level is really kind of the key there, so…

[50:20] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: All right, great. Does anyone have questions for Kim?

[50:31] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay, well, hearing none, we can initiate board discussion.

[50:40] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Sean, you want to kick off any… any comments you have about the application?

[50:46] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Yeah, I can start.

[50:48] Thomas Remke, CoB: I believe we, should open up the public.

[50:50] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Yeah.

[50:51] Thomas Remke, CoB: Opportunity for the item.

[50:53] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Yeah, I apologize, Ed. Are there any,

[50:56] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Community participants who wish to comment.

[51:00] Thomas Remke, CoB: Actually, we don't have anybody

[51:03] Thomas Remke, CoB: In the meeting that is not a panelist, that is not participating in the meeting, so…

[51:08] Thomas Remke, CoB: I think that… That settles that. I don't think we're gonna have anybody speak.

[51:14] Thomas Remke, CoB: Okay.

[51:15] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Alright, So Sean, you can continue.

[51:21] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Yeah, thank you. I do think, I would be in favor of approving this. It meets, conditions of H1A1. The lot is unusually thin because of that, easement.

[51:36] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Which basically means that they can't do anything to the existing structure without it being considered, non-compliant.

[51:43] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: For H1B, these certainly don't exist, with any other lots in the neighborhood outside of the four lots that,

[51:55] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Have that easement going through them, so it is certainly unique to just those four, houses in that neighborhood.

[52:02] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: And that also would apply to, H1C as well. And H1D, it looks like they're…

[52:11] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: building that, in the most minimalist way as possible. It's not any egregious roofline. It slopes. The highest part is away from the property line. It's just a tiny little sliver, that's considered non-compliant.

[52:26] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: And I think it, meets all of, H5 criteria as well.

[52:36] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great, thank you for, Outlining the criteria.

[52:43] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Craig, do you have any comments? Or, again, I know you're new, but if you wanted to just comment on anything…

[52:51] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Yeah, I'm in… I'm in favor as well, and kind of echo… echo Sean's point, I think, because of the… the easement,

[52:58] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: It's non-conformative, but, you know, if the easement wasn't there, or if the property line was moved over to the middle of the easement, then it would be…

[53:08] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: So I think it… it meets H1.

[53:10] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: A1, and then, you know, the rest there, as Sean said.

[53:15] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great.

[53:16] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Drew, do you have any… anything to add?

[53:20] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Nope, I'm also in favor, and I echo Sean's comments.

[53:25] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great. Ditto. I'll keep it short. Thanks, Sean did a good job of outlining it.

[53:35] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So, with that, it sounds like we're generally all in support. Does someone want to make a motion on this application?

[53:45] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: I'll make a motion to pass, BOZ20260002.

[53:52] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great, does someone want to second the motion?

[53:57] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: I second the motion.

[53:59] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Thank you, Sean. With that, we can take a vote.

[54:06] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Drew, you want to go first?

[54:08] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Yeah, aye.

[54:10] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Sean?

[54:13] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Aye.

[54:14] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And Craig?

[54:15] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Aye.

[54:18] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: I… I, as well,

[54:21] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So with that, the motion is approved, application, BOZ,

[54:28] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: 20260002 is approved. So thank you, Kim, for your presentation.

[54:38] KimCattau: Thanks for all your time.

[54:39] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Alright, great, have a great day.

[54:42] KimCattau: You too.

[54:45] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: So with that, I guess we can move to staff business or approval of January's minutes.

[54:57] Thomas Remke, CoB: Yeah, and I just wanted to raise that, regarding the minutes, I noticed they were not initially in the packet. I added them in this afternoon.

[55:07] Thomas Remke, CoB: They're very brief, if we do want, I can…

[55:10] Thomas Remke, CoB: pulled them up, and we can review them quickly, to take a vote on those. It was only Katie, Drew, and Sean at that January meeting.

[55:19] Thomas Remke, CoB: But if not, we can also defer them to a future meeting.

[55:23] Thomas Remke, CoB: For approval.

[55:26] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: I guess just show up on your screen real fast, and… That's… I'm sure it's fine.

[55:31] Thomas Remke, CoB: Yeah, they're… they're pretty brief.

[55:42] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: And there's also a formatting issue, and I never… did I ever send the email?

[55:45] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Did I say something?

[55:49] Thomas Remke, CoB: I'm not sure.

[55:50] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Okay, yeah, I think I forgot, on page 22 to 24 of the packet, there was a

[55:57] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: It seemed like the two applications were printed on top of each other.

[56:04] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I noticed that as well. I think that is an Adobe issue when it gets posted online, and I kind of looked into it, because they were both… separately, they're both fine, but yeah, for some reason, it overlaps the application. I think that has to do with the version of Adobe.

[56:23] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): That either is being used, because it happened to me as well, Drew.

[56:28] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, I think that's what that problem is, is an Adobe issue.

[56:33] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): But it may be impactful of when we post it online, it… that issue is created.

[56:40] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Maybe for some, and not all.

[56:44] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: No, I saw it too. I thought it was my printer at first.

[56:50] Thomas Remke, CoB: Well, we'll be, they'll be going in the archive as individual documents.

[56:56] Thomas Remke, CoB: So, they shouldn't… there shouldn't be an issue with how they appear in the… in the records archive.

[57:02] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then we will look into it before the next meeting to see if there's something we can do on our side to prevent that from happening.

[57:10] Thomas Remke, CoB: And here, just quickly, is the January 13th draft minutes.

[57:15] Thomas Remke, CoB: We had Katie as acting chair in Jill's absence.

[57:21] Thomas Remke, CoB: And… we had one item for review.

[57:27] Thomas Remke, CoB: And the discussion was pretty brief. The board agreed that the proposal needed… that the proposal meets the necessary criteria.

[57:35] Thomas Remke, CoB: Oh, and I… Took this away.

[57:39] Thomas Remke, CoB: And then Drew made the motion, seconded by Sean, and then the board voted 3-0 to approve the application.

[57:47] Thomas Remke, CoB: And then we also approved the two sets of minutes from August 12th and December 9th at that meeting.

[57:56] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Alright, looks good. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes.

[57:59] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: For January?

[58:01] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Meeting?

[58:03] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: I seconded the motion.

[58:07] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: For all in favor?

[58:09] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Hell yeah.

[58:10] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: I…

[58:11] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: I…

[58:12] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Hi.

[58:13] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Oof.

[58:14] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Yeah.

[58:15] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: I'm gonna abstain, because I wasn't there.

[58:17] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: Yeah.

[58:18] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great. Well, the minutes are approved.

[58:21] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Robbie, do you have additional staff, business that you want to discuss?

[58:26] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I do, but first I want to see if Tashauna has anything, to update the board on before I jump into my brief update.

[58:36] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: And I do not have anything. Thank you, Robbie.

[58:39] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): You're welcome.

[58:40] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So with that, the application deadline for the June 9th meeting was this week. I am still actively

[58:47] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): kind of doing, formal completeness checks, but it does appear we have at least one item moving forward to the June 9th meeting, so please be prepared for that, and if there are any expected absences, please let us know as soon as possible.

[59:02] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And we will figure out the Jill thing, so that way our chair can attend and be notified of the meeting, next time. So we'll figure that out.

[59:12] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And then, I also have a little bit of homework for you guys. Don't worry, it's not… it's not hard. But we are actively preparing for the board retreat, Boza's board retreat. We haven't done one in quite some time.

[59:26] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): I have a meeting tomorrow, actually, with the clerk office, city clerk office, and I am assuming they're gonna touch on those and what other boards are doing. But in the meantime, and maybe before or at time of our next meeting, if…

[59:41] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): The board members can just maybe think of maybe one or two things that you would be interested in staff going over in detail versus kind of what I do during the presentations themselves. If there is something that you would like for us to maybe spend a little extra time on going over, or

[59:59] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): kind of explaining or anything like that. The retreat is kind of going to be the time to do that.

[60:04] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): It can be legal, it can be zoning, it can be anything that

[60:09] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): you've seen come across your desk, but I'm just gonna kind of open it up to what would you guys like for Steph to do? It's likely gonna be just a presentation learning opportunity for everybody. So, just, for the June 9th meeting, if you just come with one or two ideas.

[60:27] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): of what you'd like to see, and I'm sure there's going to be duplicates from different people, that'll then let us kind of cater and develop kind of the… the board retreat that is likely going to happen towards the end of summer, early autumn.

[60:42] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, but we're gonna start planning it soon, so…

[60:46] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): That's about it. Little bit of homework, not too bad. Just come with ideas of what you'd like for us to kind of go over with you at this retreat.

[60:53] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): And I… that's about it in terms of updates. I'll hand it back over to you.

[60:59] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Right, and that board retreat, would that be in person, sort of a half-day thing, or…

[61:05] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): That is still open. If the board is adamant about, let's do it in person, we want to see everybody and sit next to each other, we can do that.

[61:13] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Right now, I don't have that many details, and I'm not quite sure what other boards and commissions are doing, so it could be if the board wanted it, but I don't believe it is required to be.

[61:27] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Great.

[61:28] Deshawna Zazueta - CAO: I could share just some information, if folks are interested. The planning board does it in person for their retreats, and I believe DAB prefers in person, the Design Advisory Board, but they offer a hybrid component.

[61:44] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Okay.

[61:46] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: With…

[61:47] Drew Eisenberg, BOZA Member: By retreat, it's, like, an hour to a couple hours?

[61:52] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So, Bose's retreats are not like Planning Board's retreats, that's… I can guarantee that.

[61:58] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): So with that, the last time we did a retreat, it was in person. We, pretty much just tacked it onto the end of an agenda, because it was a light agenda, and that's what my hope is we do this next time, is

[62:11] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): unless we have a very busy agenda with multiple items, it might be easier just to kind of do this. It's only going to be a couple hours at most. It's very… Boza's is very laid back, not like the other boards where they

[62:26] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): spend, like, Council takes days. And planning board? I'm not sure how long planning boards typically is. Thomas and Deshauna might know, but Bozo's will not be that lengthy, but, it's probably going to be a couple hours, which is why maybe just adding it to the… an agenda.

[62:43] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Would be the easiest approach for everybody, but, stay tuned on more details on that.

[62:53] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: All right, great. Does anyone have any other… any other items they want to discuss?

[63:02] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: All right, well, I guess with that, we can adjourn, right?

[63:06] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Yes, and again, welcome aboard, Craig. You did your first meeting. We had a few hiccups, not you, but just in general. But yeah, this is Boza, so welcome aboard.

[63:18] Craig Hammond, BOZA Member: Thanks, everyone, glad to be here.

[63:21] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: Yeah, it's great to meet you, Craig, and welcome.

[63:24] Katie Crane, BOZA Vice-Chair: And so with that, we'll adjourn, and we'll see everyone on June 9th.

[63:31] Robbie Wyler, Staff Liasion (CoB): Thank you, everyone.

[63:34] Thomas Remke, CoB: Thanks, everyone.

[63:34] Sean Haney, BOZA Member: Bye.