April 15, 2026 — Beverage Licensing Authority Regular Meeting

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Captions from City of Boulder YouTube recording.

[0:00] At 545. Thanks. Great, thank you, Member Carr, and we are recording, so we can go ahead and begin. Trey Roberts, if you would like to call the meeting to order? Thank you. This is a public notice for the City of Boulder Beverage Licensing Authority hearing for Wednesday, April 15th, 2026, at 3 p.m. This is a virtual hearing. Thank you. I will now go ahead and share my screen to read the rules of decorum. Okay. The City has engaged with community members to co-create a vision for productive, meaningful, and inclusive civic conversations. This vision. supports. physical and emotional safety for community members, staff, and board members, as well as democracy for people of all ages, identities, lived experiences, and political perspectives. For more information about this vision and the community engagement process, please visit boulderColorado.gov Services.

[1:14] The city will enforce the rules of decorum found in the Boulder Revised Code. Participants are required to sign up to speak using the name they are commonly known by, and individuals must display their whole name before being allowed to speak online. Currently, only audio testimony is permitted online. No attendee shall disrupt, disturb, or otherwise impede the orderly conduct of any meeting in a manner that obstructs the business of the meeting. This also includes failing to obey any lawful order of the presiding officer to leave the meeting or refrain from addressing the board. Only one person at a time is allowed to speak unless an accommodation like an interpreter is required. All remarks and testimony shall be limited to matters related to city business.

[2:00] No participant shall make threats or use other forms of intimidation against any person. Obscenity, other epitaphs based on race, gender, or relation, and other speech behavior that disrupts or otherwise impedes the meeting will not be tolerated. Stop sharing my screen. And now we will go ahead and do member roll call, please. Chair Roberts. Here, Roberts present. Member Ginger Barnes. Member Barnes present? Member Michael Carr? Member Carl Bresden. Member Lansing Crane? recurring present. And member Brendan Haggerty. Member Heckerty present? Fantastic. Lovely to have everyone with us here today. Let me pull up… just one moment… I believe since everyone is here, we can finally go ahead and do the approval of the Beverage Licensing Authority Minutes from January 21st, 2026 of this year.

[3:08] Sounds good. Has everyone had a, time to read through that, for those who were there? And are there any edits? Then I would make a motion to approve the meetings from January 21st. Amber Bar in seconds? All those in favor say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Remember Barnes Eye? Amber Crane I. There were only 3 of us there, right? That's right. My member car will abstain. I forgot I was not at that meeting. Member Hearty, aye. Great. January 21st meeting minutes are approved. And we'll just roll right into the next ones. Has everyone who was there or not there had a chance to review the February 18th meeting minutes? And are there any edits?

[4:00] Then I would make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from February 18, 2026. All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Member Barnes, I… Remember, car I. Your train wasn't there. Yep, Haggerty abstains as well. Great. Robert, I hate to interrupt, I believe you needed a second on that motion. Sorry. Here's a sec. Oh! Nancy. Not to start off… Thank you. Right, yeah. Oh, no! I was so proud of myself for just rolling right through. Alright. I would make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from February 18th. Is there a second? Number 1 seconds. All those in favor say aye. Member Roberts, aye. I'm the anxiety. Remember, car I. And the others… abstain. Emra Haggerty abstains.

[5:00] Our creative sites. Thank you. And we have one more to review. It was the meeting minutes from last month of March 15th. Any edits to those? Then I would make a motion to approve the March 15, 2026 Meeting minutes? Is there a second? I remember in seconds. All those in favor say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Remember Burnside? content. I'm sorry. Yeah. Didn't mean to step on your toes there. All good. Remember crane eye. Member Hagerty abstains. Approved. Thanks. Fantastic, great. We do have an agenda item from the licensing clerk. So, agenda item number 5, which would have been the continued public hearing and consideration for a renewal for Boulder Fo. Boulder Foe reached out and contacted Elisa and has gone through the correct steps, and they have surrendered their license.

[6:04] So there's no steps for the BLA to take on that, so once we get to that matter, we will just be moving right ahead. Great, thank you. Thank you. Then we will go ahead and move to Agenda Item 2, which is matters from the Boulder Police Department. Officer Leah Reck is here, if you want to go ahead, Officer Reck. Good afternoon. I don't really have a ton. I have a ton, but not a ton. I'll save it for later, but is there any questions or anything for me? It's been crazy. I'm sure with the nice weather. I don't have any questions? Anybody else? Just thank you for everything you're doing. Yep. Thank you. Thank you for acknowledging it. Well, thank you, Officer Reck. We will move on to Agenda Item 3, which is general public comments for future beverage licensing Authority meetings. So if you are in the chat, if you can please raise your hand if you have anything that you would like to, say before the BLA for any future beverage licensing hearings.

[7:20] I'm not seeing any hands up yet. I'll give it just another moment or two. Again, if you are in this meeting and you have anything you would like to say, for any future Beverage Licensing Authority hearings, please raise your hand in the chat so I can… Admit you, and you can speak. Okay, I'm not seeing any hands, so we will move right ahead. So that will be Agenda Item 4. River… oh, and let me go ahead… I did see Mr. Richard Mosier. If you are here to present for Agenda Item 4, which is the Riverside Group doing business as Riverside, please raise your hand so I can admit you.

[8:03] Thank you, Mr. Mosier. Give me one moment while I get you in here. And Mr. Mosier, if you can go ahead and unmute yourself and turn your video on. Hello, Mr. Mosier. Hi. So, agenda Item 4 is a continued monthly check-in for the Riverside Group doing business as Riverside at 1724 Broadway Street, Boulder, Colorado, 80302. As of this past Friday, when I checked with our Boulder sales tax team, Riverside was not currently in good standing with them. Oh, no, I did… I did… everything is in good standing as of when I checked yesterday. There was a payment, or the submission that didn't go through, meaning it wasn't… I didn't hit submit or something, it was…

[9:01] filed, but not paid, I guess. So I just paid that, I think it was Monday, yeah. Monday, so if you check now, it's all good. Okay, mmm… maybe in the future, look for a receipt right away. I took… yeah, I took a little, screenshot. I can send that, if that helps. Perfect. Yeah. Is there a way to confirm, or… For… Look for the screenshot. Is there a way I can send it now? Oh, that's okay, I was just checking with the clerks. Oh, okay, alright. I'm not seeing anybody chime in. That… That was just our latest information was as of. From Friday? Oh, okay. Whoa… This was Monday, I'm pretty sure, yeah. Monday afternoon.

[10:00] Questions from the board for Mr. Mosier? There was one more thing. Yes? There was this ongoing issue of, putting Miranda on as a manager, and I did reply to the email. Just now, because I… as I was looking for the board package, I saw that one, but we are… Miranda's focusing on health and wellness, so there's a change of plan. We're actually looking for an event manager that'll also be Helping with the bars, so we're gonna find a new one. Yeah. Rirana is here with me, but she's going to focus on health and wellness, and not events, and The food and beverage. Okay. That… That was all, I just wanted to add that. Thank you. Any questions? Discussion concerns around this item? Bored. Okay, Mr. Mosier, I think we're just taking your word for that… for it, that you are reconciled as of 2 days ago, but please, please just be on time, okay?

[11:08] I will do. Alright, we'll see you next month. Thank you. Bye-bye. Okay, thank you. So as I mentioned before, we will be moving past Agenda Item 5, since that is no longer An… an issue. Oh, and I'm sorry, I don't mean to backtrack, give me just one moment here.

[12:15] Okay, sorry about that. And I do apologize for backtracking. We did receive word from Penelope Rhodes, who is the supervisor, the tax team supervisor. As of right now, there are no pending payments for Riverside, so they have not received that. She is unfortunately in a meeting, so I can't have her present that in front, but, That is the email that we just received. That's unsettling. Okay? We do have a check-in, next month with Mr. Mosier. Yeah, we'll just have to proceed. Thank you for the update.

[13:00] You got it. I apologize, hang on one moment. Okay, we are moving ahead, I just wanted to double check. So my apologies, we are going ahead with Agenda item 6, which is the show cause hearing concerning an alleged violation, whether the hotel restaurant type liquor license held at Moho Taqueria, LLC, doing business as Moho Taqueria 2785 Iris Avenue, Boulder, Colorado. 80304 should be suspended or revoked. If you are here to speak on this matter, please raise your hand so I can go ahead and admit you. Okay, I see a Krista Huff who I am admitting.

[14:22] Okay. Hi, Mrs. Huff, and… Should you… Yeah, it should just be me on this one. Oh, oh, okay. I'm sorry, Chris, are you not here to speak for Moho Taqueria? I am. I am one of the city attorneys. I work with Mia Keller, and am stepping in for her today. Okay, fantastic. Thank you for letting me know, Krista. Give me one moment, please. So, mister, it is ham, correct? Hemis. That's okay. Back to Solvos.

[15:01] And will there be an attorney presenting for you, sir? No. Okay, and I do not believe we have a signed stipulation in this case, is that correct, Mrs. Hoffman? We do. We do have a signed stipulation. I can forward that to you, Ms. Riggs, if you would like. And there should be a packet of mitigating factors as well, so make sure you have that. If you would like to send that signed stipulation, I don't believe we received it prior to today. Me or Krista? Krista, please. Okay. And I did just forward that over to you. It looks like Ms. Keller sent it around to Ms. Kellogg, Ms. Teague, and Ms. Darrow.

[16:06] But it should be coming your way. Okay, great. It's just uploading for me. I can send it directly to the BLA, and then, Krista, if you wouldn't mind summarizing it, before you ask the board to accept.

[17:32] Okay, I did receive that, and I just forwarded that to our BLA members.

[18:08] Great, thank you. Attorney Hough, would you like to summarize anything for us, with this agreement before we… Sure, I can just summarize it now, since you've just received it, but on February 26, 2026, officers Dave Kaufman and Leah Reck conducted a compliance check at Moho Taqueria during that… I'm sorry, first I need to read a couple things into the record. Oh, sure. Sorry. I kind of jumped ahead as well. Because Mr. Hamas is not represented by Council, I will go ahead and read some of his rights into the record. So this is a public hearing before the Beverage Licensing Authority for the City of Boulder to determine whether or not the license of

[19:00] Mojo Takara, LLC, DBA, Mojo, Tequera, Should be suspended or revoked. on the basis of the violations alleged in the order to show cause served upon the license and requiring the licensee to be present here today. Because this is a disciplinary proceeding, the authority shall not ask for or allow comments from members of the general public. on the guilt of the licensee or the appropriate discipline to be imposed. The purpose of this hearing is to receive testimony presented by the City. And by the licensee in order to enable the authority to make findings and determine by a preponderance of evidence whether or not the licensee has violated the various laws as alleged. If, in the course of the hearing, testimony or other evidence establishes the guilt of the licensee of a violation or some other law, rule, or regulation, then those stated in the notice, the licensee shall be afforded a reasonable continuance upon any offer that evidence in defense

[20:06] The evidence and defense explanation and mitigation is not available to the licensee, but can be obtained within a period of a continuance, not to exceed 10 days. A record is being made of all of these proceedings. All testimony shall be given under oath. The rules of evidence and requirement of proof and procedure shall confirm to the extent practicable to those in civil non-jury cases. But when necessary to ascertain facts affecting the substantial rights of the public or of the licensee, the authority may receive and consider evidence not admissible under such rules if evidence possesses probative Value commonly accepted by reasonable and prudent persons in the conduct of the affairs. The rules of the privilege required by law shall be respected in this proceeding

[21:00] And the chair may exclude incompetent and unduly repetitious evidence. The chair shall rule upon all the questions of evidence and procedure, subject to being overruled on motion sustained by a majority vote of the members of the authority present. Should a licensee wish to request a fine in lieu of active suspension days, please notify the authority after the penalty phase is determined. If any, but before suspension posting is discussed, and the licensee should be prepared to supply an estimated per day suspension dollar amount for the authority's deliberations. Those who desire to be heard shall identify themselves by stating their name, spelling their last name, and stating their pertinent address. They shall also be sworn in by the Secretary of the Board. To the board members, does anyone have any conflict of interest or ex parte communication with this establishment?

[22:06] Remember Robert to know? No. Remember, Carmen now. We're crying now. Member Hagerty, no. Okay, then, if we are ready to proceed, Ms. Riggs, would you swear in Mr. Hammus, please? Yes, thank you, Chair Roberts. Mr. Hamas, I would like you to ask if you can please state your name, spell your name, and give an address for the record, please. Yes, my full name is Michael Ty Hamas, that's M-I-C-H-A-E-L, middle name T-Y, and last name H-A-M-M-E-S. And my home address is 314 McConnell Drive, M-C-C-O-N-N-E-L-L, Drive in Lyons, Colorado, 80540. Thank you. And you are not being represented by an attorney today, correct? That's correct. Fantastic. If you would please raise your hand.

[23:02] And do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in the matter before the Beverage Licensing Authority is true? Yes. Thank you. Right. Great, thank you so much. And, Board, we have been given a stipulation, and, does anybody want to take a break and read it, or have you been able to look through it? I've been able to look through it and read it, I… Did request a copy of the, mitigating factors the, I had to not receive those. I'm on, like, page… Yeah, they're in the packet. Hmm… 90, I believe, and they are quite outstanding. They are in the packet, okay.

[24:01] Look on page 90. Yep. This was a big pack. Oh, thank you. And, Mr. Hamas, are you ready to proceed? Yes. Okay, excellent. So we do have before us a stipulation, and I'm… Did either party want to comment on that? Before we, accept it or… Not… Okay. Any discussion amongst the board? I would make a motion to approve the stipulation. Is there a second? targeting. Seconds the motion. Great. All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Member Burns? Aye. Member Carai. Remember, crane, I…

[25:00] Remember Haggerty eye? Okay, great. Stipulation accepted. So… Mr. Hamas, would you like to proceed with, talking us through your mitigation or making any comments? Sure, yeah, I recognize a few of you on the board, and I submitted these mitigating factors once before, unfortunately. So, some of it is a little bit repeat. But I… speaking to the current, situation and climate, I would say that you know, we have two locations, and I feel like we've really focused on doing… at both locations, we really emphasize, Alcohol training, carding, we do the BARS program, and I have put in the packet that between… well, between the two locations, we've gotten a green card, we've passed every time that they've sent somebody in. Except for on one occasion in Boulder, I noted it there, where a person came in and that they sent in and handed a red card before the server ever reached the table. I just put in some emails where I tried to get explanation on that, because it was, it didn't really make sense, and I'd never heard back from them. But aside from that one occasion,

[26:19] When bars has set people in, we've passed every time. We greatly emphasize, we have… we keep all those cards up on the wall, we have a sign. in the server area of the age, and… and I feel like we've done… we've been doing all the right things, so when I was notified that this happened. and I was working at the other location, I was definitely shocked and disappointed, and found it, you know. Just disappointed, because… Honestly, I just feel like we've… we've been doing all the things, we've been doing… you know, we don't have a young crowd to begin with, but I feel like we've really emphasized doing, you know, paying serious attention to this, and doing a great job, and…

[27:01] And, we just… you know, we felt that we were, I didn't expect that somebody would serve someone underage. And especially someone that was, you know, we have a very experienced staff. A mature staff, and this is someone who, you know, the bartender, she's… A very mature person, she's managed restaurants, and she read the date wrong, and she served these two people, and But there's reasons why that was in itself was disappointing, so… I think the main thing that I can just say is that I, you know, I can feel like he can be doing all the right things, and still a server makes a mistake. And I don't think it reflects necessarily on how we handle this, or how we prioritize it. You know, being an establishment where underage drinking is in any way a common occurrence.

[28:00] That's… My main feelings on it. Great. Thank you. Are there… Questions? From the board. Yes, I have a question. Thank you for the statement, and thanks for submitting the mitigating factors. I did have a chance to review those. I think they are pretty comprehensive. My question is more for you managing the business going forward. Are there any changes that you think you'll be making, or anything else that you'll be doing a little bit differently, or re-emphasizing with the staff? To prevent this from happening in the future. Yeah, we're requiring everyone to do alcohol training again, even though a lot of them just did it last year, including Emma, who is the bartender, who… Served the drinks. She already redid her alcohol training. You know, one main thing that was really shocking about this was that it was a vertical Colorado ID, which we've talked to… staff knows this, this person knows this, that that most likely is going to be

[29:05] either someone who's underage or is just barely past the age. So, anytime we have a vertical ID, we bring that back to a second person to get a check on it. That's, you know, 100% without a… without doubt. And I feel like there's one of the, you know, obviously one of the biggest reinforcements is just when this happens, for the rest of the staff to realize that, you know, oh wow, this person… did that, and whether you're busy or not, like, we need to get a… if there's ever a question, you get a second set of eyes on it, you know? You don't want to put the business at risk, and you don't want to be paying fines. So, I mean, it's a big wake-up call for people, I think. I'd say those are the main things. Great, thank you. Just out of curiosity, because you've really talked about how diligent you've been, and I have no doubt, have you guys been confiscating fake IDs over the last year and turning them into the Porter Police Department?

[30:09] We haven't, because we haven't had a fake ID that we've confiscated. And you know, I mean, in some ways, we're fortunate that we're up on 20th and Iris, that we don't really have to deal much with that clientele, but if you're ever to go into Mojo. In the evening, you're gonna see that the… if there's anyone under the age of 25, it's just a couple of people. It's a much older crowd, and so it's not really a place where younger people come, and we haven't had a single instance in the past year of having to confiscate anyone's fake ID. Amazingly. Any other questions from the board? I… Believe, Attorney Phipps?

[31:01] Do we go straight to the penalty phase, or do we… because we already accepted the stipulation? Yes, you can be accepted as stipulation, so now you need to determine the appropriate penalty, and so, obviously, you'll need a motion and a second on that as well. But, yeah, you can determine the appropriate mitigating factors and the impact there, and how you want to proceed in terms of the appropriate penalty. Thank you. Mr. Hummus, do you have any, closing… Anything else that you wanted to add before we deliberate? No, I think I pretty much said it all, unless anybody else has any questions, other than, you know, truly, I just found this to be… Very unfortunate, surprising, But if we're gonna keep Prioritizing this the way that we have, and hopefully this never happens again, you know? But, that's it. Thank you so much. Then, at this time, we will close for board deliberation.

[32:05] This is a tough one. Because it is within one year. Comments? Member Carr, were you gonna say something? I'm sorry, within one year. The second offense within a year. Is that… Oh, I did last May last year, May of 2025. Barely. Was that through the BARS program, or was that… through… I just want to clarify that. That was a BLA violation? It was. I missed that one. Okay. Yeah, so tough. A tough one. Is…

[33:02] Let me see that? Yeah, I think that's, that is challenging, that it's happened, you know, two within… Two within a year. That is a little concerning. I think the mitigating factors are great. You know, the statement from the bartender helped me understand what happened. I love to see that they are part of the BARS program, and that they are also involved in the community. the one area I do see as a little bit weak is the written policies. It's really just one page, and I know they're not on the Hill, but, I think there's a lot more that could go into that, such as… you know, specifically restricting vertical IDs, for example, could just, you know, help eliminate these type of problems in the future.

[34:00] That's my… that's my thought. Yeah, that's… that one is surprising. I almost wish it was, like. A harder one to overlook, because vertical, it's just, you know, makes it a lot more obvious, but… Cool. So, let's discuss the… the options here, It looks like… so, I'm looking on page 80 of the… Packet at the penalty, so… And it was 2 counts. Chair Roberts? Yes. If I can just provide a little back information, from what the ruling was, what you all's ruling was last year. Give me one moment to pull that information out. Thank you.

[35:00] Of course. It was April 4th that the, that's… The, the issue transpired, Member Roberts, you moved for suspension with 2 days served and 10 days held in abeyance. Member Haggerty, you seconded. The motion from last May is from the last May BLA hearing, so it was 2 days served and 10 days held in abeyance, was what the BLA ruled, Thank you so much. So… So that's challenging, right? Because there's… that's a potential 10-day suspension right there, in addition to, you know, from last year's violation, plus, any new… Two counts, which would be, you know, an additional… Potential 10 days.

[36:01] That's 20 days. Yeah. That's… I'm just going through stuff here, too. I'll state that I believe that 20 days is… not necessary in this situation. Like, I understand we put 10 days in advance. I think 20 days is just… is too much for this type of violation, given the mitigating factors. I do believe there does need to be some days served, and then I think we can additionally put, you know, other days in abeyance, but… It has been almost a year, I don't know how everyone else feels, but I feel like 20 days is just… is too much. I agree with you. I also agree. they've been very… excuse me, very upfront about, what happened, and they want to make it right, so I appreciate that and the honesty, so…

[37:11] Sir Doc. I was just chiming in, too. Yeah, 20 days seems far excessive, but… so it is… You know, are we… are we, like, cut it in half? 10? It seems Like, a lot as well. It seems like a lot is Yeah. A lot. Yeah, so I don't know, yeah, whittle it down from 20 to 10 to, you know. the week. You know, I'd almost be inclined to say, like, it's… Been a year. Right? Within, like, a few days of a year, so… I would almost be comfortable going with, like, that it's… Maybe the first violation, but maybe more on, like, the heavier side for that kind of violation, and then…

[38:02] Maybe extra days in abeyance? Something like that? So… It was… Because these are all recommendations for us to work from. Well, last year we did 2 days, served, and then 10 days in abeyance. I feel like we should do 4 to… I mean… I think 4 days served. And I think we should put, 12 days in advance. I'll make a motion for that. So, Member Carr will make a motion for 4 days. Served, and 12 days in advance. I did rock. Top. Odd. I'd like to interrupt before you take a vote here, just to point out that there are days in advance from your previous order, so you need to consider if you're going to activate those days in advance, and if so, how that's going to be treated with the additional days you're adding. So you need to be very clear about what penalty you're creating here, and I'm sorry, you know.

[39:15] you know, Member Carr, you did articulate certain days in advance, so are you continuing those? Are you activating some and leaving some on the table? You really need to articulate this a little more clearly, and we're happy to help you put that together, but I do think you need to take some time to sort of walk through that, because there is an outstanding number already on the table. I'm sorry to interrupt there. Thank you. Okay, so we still have those, extra… those 10 days in advance. You know, my thinking was, Let's do… 10 days in advance, from this one, and then let's take… You know, two days in abeyance from the last one, since we're almost at the end of the year.

[40:05] And then… we'll waive the other 8 days in advance, at this point, so… Therefore, my motion is for 4 days time serv… 4 days served. 10 days, 12 days in abeyance total, with 2 of those days activated from our… the previous violation. Is there a second? I said, go back, remember Bar in seconds? All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Member Barnes, aye. member car, I… Recreinoe. Member Hagerty, aye. And if I could just remind the board, to please pick a start date for that. generally, it has been the following Monday. Is there any reason why that wouldn't work for you, Mr. Hamas?

[41:08] Oh, you're muted. No, there's no reason why that would not work for me. Monday. Okay. Then, Monday. the… I don't know what date that is. The 20th. Thank you. Monday the 20th? Mr. Hamas, I will be creating your poster, your suspension poster tomorrow, and you'll receive an email from me when it is ready, with instructions ready, for how to pick it up, and postings, and all of that. It's typically done by noon, but again, it won't be ready until you get that email from myself. Okay, sounds good. Okay, thank you, Mr. Hummus. We're very sorry about all this, and please, just stay on top of it. You're doing great.

[42:03] Thank you, and I'll take the advice on the policies, even though we discuss all that, and it's in the training, just to kind of… Bolt that up a little bit. I mean. Thank you. Alright. Great. Thank you. Then we will go ahead and move forward with Agenda Item 7, which is a show cause hearing concerning an alleged violation, whether the hotel restaurant type liquor license held by Hapa Franchise Group, Inc, doing business as Motomaki 1628th Street, number 1216, Boulder, Colorado. 80302 should be suspended or revoked. I do see one hand up for this. Adam Stapin, if there is anyone else here to speak on this matter, please also raise your hand.

[43:01] Oh, Krista, I do see your hand raised. But you can unmute, you can unmute yourself. There you go. And I have an Alexander Hopkins. Okay. Mr. Stapen, if you can go ahead and turn on your video, please? Can you folks hear me okay? Yes, but… Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm battling an ear infection, and I'm working from home. It's an inner ear infection that gives me a little bit of vertigo and dizziness. So I could tell the authority and Chair Roberts, I am not dressed in a suit, I have a hat on backwards and a shirt, but I want to attend. The doctor advised me it's good to let the mind keep doing what it should be doing to help balance the problem again. So I could go on camera, but it's not going to be what you typically see of me, or if it's okay that you know me, not having me be on camera may be best for everybody right now.

[44:08] I would be fine with what you're comfortable with. Okay, yeah, I would rather not. I look like I feel, so… Very sorry. Thank you. We do have, Alexander Hopkins as well. He is the manager on behalf of the licensee. Thank you. And I do believe we have a stipulation in this matter, so if it's okay, I'll go ahead and get Alexander sworn in, and then turn it over. Please and thank you. Alexander, can you unmute yourself, please? Thank you. Yeah, I just want to make sure that works fine. Yep, we can hear you and see you, thank you. Let's see… Can you please state your name, spell your name, and give an address for the record, please? My name's Alexander Hopkins, spelled A-L-E-X-A-N-D-E-R. Last name's Hopkins, H-O-P-K-I-N-S.

[45:07] Address is 3525 Zuni Street. Denver, Colorado, 80211. And do you anticipate that anybody other than yourself and your lawyer will be speaking with you today? No. Will you please raise your hand? And do you swear to affirm the testimony that you're about to give in the matter before the Beverage Licensing Authority is true? Yes. Fantastic. I will go ahead and turn it over. Thank you. Great, thank you so much. And, Attorney Stapen, did you want to go ahead and record your appearance? Yes, please. Good afternoon, everybody. My name is Adam Stapen. I'm an attorney licensed to practice law here in the great state of Colorado. Registration number is 27506 on behalf of the licensee in this matter. Great, thank you so much.

[46:03] And we will waive the reading of the hearing. Thank you. You read my mind, thank you. Okay, so just as a reminder, this is a public hearing before the Beverage Licensing Authority for the City of Boulder to determine whether or not the license held by Hapa Franchise, Inc, DBA, Motomaci. Should be suspended or revoked on the basis Oh. should be suspended or revoked. And, to the members of the board, has there been any ex parte communication or conflicts of interest with this establishment? Member Roberts, no? Member Barnes, no. Number car, no. Every crane, no. I'm raggerty, no. Okay, great! Then, did everybody have a chance to review the stipulation?

[47:01] Are there any questions or discussions for either side from the board? Or is there emotion? I'm a crane, I move we accept the stipulation as appears in the record. Great, I would second that motion. All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Remember Barnes Eye? Remember, car, right? member crane, I… Mahaggerty eye. Great. stipulation accepted. Attorney Stapen, would you like to… Proceed. Yes, and thank you, and again, thank you for allowing me to proceed by audio only. We did timely submit to the authority for its consideration a packet of mitigation evidence, and I hope the authority has had an opportunity to take a look at that. As the authority probably knows through,

[48:02] Just different channels or otherwise, that this is an established operator within the city. in county, and takes the sell and service of alcohol very seriously. And has done so for many, many years, not only in Boulder, but elsewhere. In this instance here, the employee was trained, did ask for the identification, but failed to properly look at it. And as a result of that, the employee was fired. We do take this very seriously. It's the first violation of this type. As a result of that, the licensee retrained its staff on March 19th, 2026, took it upon itself to do the retraining. In addition, as Member Carr mentioned before, what will the licensee do in the future to ensure this doesn't happen again? One was the training, and two, they ensure now that managers have to get their eyes on any vertical ID. Prior to accepting it, that was not part of their training procedure before it is now.

[49:03] This organization takes pride by having written policies and procedures in place. That further train the alcohol consumption, service, and handling to ensure it's done responsibly. They cooperated in this investigation without any prior history. And they are also intimately involved in the community. As you see in the mitigation evidence, they take pride in being active in the community. I can tell you that this, to me, seems like a one-time, one-off event. In speaking with the licensee, the licensee does not have great alcohol cells versus food cells. It's the other way around. The food cells dominate the alcohol cells, and I don't believe this is a place for troubled underage drinking as well. I think their history shows otherwise. Mr. Hopkins is here to answer any specific questions you may have, but we do want to apologize for taking your time.

[50:06] We take full responsibility for this violation. And believe we're doing what we can to make sure this doesn't happen again. And here to answer any questions you may have, so thank you. Great, thank you so much. Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Hopkins? I do have a question, Mr. Hopkins. As I was reading through the, police statement, the… employee who served the alcohol to the minors, mentioned that she had not been trained. So I wanted to clarify, had she received training, or was that just a mission or a mistake on her part in her statement? I think she had been trained initially when she started. She had not had a TIP certification completed, which slipped through our records. She was hired when we were renewing our liquor license a year ago.

[51:08] And at that time, all of our current employees were retaking the TIP certification. Her name was not added to the calendar. But she did go through our in-house training program. She was familiar with our, protocols. I was incredibly disappointed to hear that it was two vertical IDs that she was just so carelessly… allowed the sale of alcohol. I don't know if she thought she was doing them a favor, But she had been here for about a year, and we have a running calendar that has all of our employees and their expiration dates on there, and whether it was TIP certification. Or if it was from a previous employer. She was just hired at kind of a time when that calendar didn't get filled out, and stayed under the radar for the year.

[52:00] Unfortunately, it would have been discovered that she hadn't been trained when we reapplied for our liquor license this year, which is right around the time that this happened. It was actually the week that we already had our training scheduled. So, I'm disappointed. I've been managing restaurants in Boulder for the last 10 years now, and I've never seen an employee fail a sting. So really disheartening to hear about that happening. It's embarrassing. I didn't expect it to happen under my watch, and yeah, I feel terrible about it. Yeah, thank you. If it were to happen that another employee got hired, you know, and maybe it's just after your renewal goes through, how will you ensure that that person is TIPS trained and it's not a year before, you know, you identify that they've, you know, been serving alcohol without being TIPS trained? Yep, so as part of our onboarding process, we're gonna have checked boxes to make sure that that was added to the calendar. The certification date is there within, I think 60 days was the rule. Originally, we're gonna make it 30 days.

[53:07] And if that employee is not trained and has a certification or a receipt about going to the class. They will not be put back on the schedule. And in the 30 days to 60 days where they're… hired and waiting for their approval, supervisor or manager will come over and, check any ID. It's pretty infrequent that we sell beverages, most of the day. And it's very rare that a customer would buy more than one beer with their meal. So anytime that that employee sells alcohol just to get approval while they're waiting for the TIP certification, or SurfSafe. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions from the board? That actually kind of took care of mine?

[54:02] Okay, then, Is there anything that you would like to add, Attorney Stapen, for closing? No, I believe the authority is, advising the premises, so thank you. Great, thank you. Then, at this time, we will close for Board deliberation. thinking… What are you guys thinking? These are… Sounds like. 3 or 4 days that Dave served. Excuse me. I feel like that is a little high for their first infraction, and would suggest maybe only, like, one or two is where I'm leaning.

[55:01] Yeah, I'm leaning towards one or two, you know, mitigating factors. presented were, you know, spot on. I like the fact that right after the, the incident, they were… everyone received the, you know, training. I think, you know, really a wake-up call. I think Member Carr asked some excellent questions as far as how it happened, and I think To Mr. Hopkins, big, big wake-up call right there to make sure nothing falls, you know, through the cracks. So I think, yeah, they're kind of put on notice that, yeah, that can happen again. So I'm leaning towards, you know, one day served. Is it appropriate? sentence. Yeah, I appreciate how, transparent he was that this person just fell through the cracks, and that they are… they recognized it, they… Own up to it, and, you know… That sounds like some human error that they are fixing.

[56:02] Anything? Anything else, or is there a motion? I was just gonna say, I appreciate them taking responsibility and admitting, yes, this thing fell through the cracks. I don't think that means you know, we necessarily need to, you know, let them off the hook, so to speak. I think that it is their responsibility to ensure that all employees are trained properly, and it is, you know, it's concerning to me that this person went almost a year without getting tips training and was serving alcohol. you know, with that being said, they haven't failed at anything else. It sounds like their new policies are in place, and they're more robust, You know? That's… that's… those are some strong mitigating factors for me. Yeah. Then I would make a motion to, For 2 days served and 10 days in abeyance.

[57:02] Member Carr was taking that motion. All those in favor say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Remember Barnes Eye? Member Car I. Remember, crani. Member Hagerty, aye. Okay, great. Motion passed. Mr. Hopkins, sorry that this happened, and thank you for, following up with some good policies. If the board would just say when… Yes. Two days when the suspension is going to start. Yes, and generally we propose the following Monday, which would be April 20th. Does that work for the city to have two on the same day? Okay. Mr. Hopkins, any… Circumstances that that doesn't work? Yes, Monday the 20th works just fine. Okay, thank you. Monday the 20th. Thank you. Or, excuse me, Mr. Hopkins, so you'll receive an email from myself tomorrow, most likely before noon, with instructions on how to pick up your suspension poster, and then what to do with that poster and everything like that. Again, the poster won't be ready for pickup before you get that email from myself.

[58:23] And Mr. Stapen, did you have any closing remarks? No, other than, once again, thanking the authority for allowing me to peer by audio only today. Thank you. Okay. You feel better. Thank you very much. Thank you both. So we will be moving on now, to… Give me one moment here, my apologies. So we are moving on to Agenda Item 8, which will be the show cause hearing concerning an alleged violation, whether the brewpub-type liquor license held by Timberline Brewing Company

[59:06] Doing business as Twisted Pine Brewing Company, 3201 Walnut Street, Unit A, Boulder, Colorado, 80302 should be suspended or revoked. If you are here to speak on this matter, if you can please raise your hand so that I can admit you. Let's see, I have one… While you're admitting them to the board, we were sent the signed stipulation in a separate email. Sam Harden… Annabobile… Belie joining us? Mr. Harden, if you can unmute and turn on your video? Absolutely. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, thank you.

[60:01] And… let's see, bob, if I can go ahead and swear you in, please, sir? Will you please say your name and spell your name and give an address for the record, please? My name is Robert Male. R-O-B-E-R-T. E as in boy, A-I-L-E, Addresses 4849 Kellogg Circle, Boulder, Colorado, 80303. Thank you. And do you anticipate that anybody other than yourself and your attorney will be speaking on this matter? No. Alright, please raise your hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in this matter before the Beverages and Licensing Authority is true? I do. Okay, fantastic. I will go ahead and turn it on over. Thank you. Great, thank you so much. And, attorney… Hardin, did you already record your appearance?

[61:03] I have not yet. Okay, could you please do that? Absolutely. Samuel Harden, Attorney registration number 58758 on behalf of applicant Timberline Brewing. Or licensee, Timberline Brewing, excuse me. Thank you. And Attorney Huff, I see you're on camera. Would you like to add something? Just that the parties have reached a stipulation in this matter, and the board can probably see these are pretty unique facts, but a very brief violation nonetheless. Yes, right, yes, this was interesting. Thank you so much. And Attorney Harden, would you like to waive the reading into the record? I would, thank you. Great. So then, to begin, this is a public hearing before the Beverage Licensing Authority of the City of Boulder to determine whether or not the

[62:01] brew pub-type liquor license held by Timberline Brewing Company, DBA, Twisted Pine Brewing Company, should be suspended or revoked. And, like we've heard, we do have a signed stipulation of facts. Is there any, comments, questions. from the board. About this? I'm not seeing any, so I would make a motion to approve, the signed stipulation. Remember Barnes seconds that? All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Amber Burnside? Picard, aye. Right now. Member Hagerty, aye. Great. Stipulation is approved, so then we would move on to mitigating and penalty phase. Attorney Gruden, would you like to present anything?

[63:05] I have a brief opening, and then I would like to just call Mr. Bale to provide additional testimony on some mitigating factors present. Great, thank you. Please proceed. Oh, hold on, I'm sorry. To the board, are there any, has there been any ex parte communication or conflicts of interest with this establishment? Member Roberts, no? River Barnes now. I have the car now. Right now. Member Hagerty, no. Okay, excellent. You may proceed. Thank you very much. As the authority is likely aware, this is a business that's been a part of the Boulder community and really grown with the community over the last, you know, 30 years now of operations, and it's become a… a place for residents, community members, even, you know, the fire and police departments to gather and find a sense of community, and Bob Bale has been…

[64:00] a part of that for a long time, and he's the owner who will be testifying here today, and will testify that this is an establishment that remains as committed to the safety of their patrons and safe alcohol operations as ever. you know, I think… As we touched on earlier already, this is a unique circumstance and set of facts. This is the entity's first violation, and arose in response to the sale or service of alcohol, which was never truly completed. And I believe that, you know, we certainly understand Officer Reck and the department's positions regarding the issues and the violation that took place, but I believe it also remains relevant relevant that… the staff, the bartender at issue here today, did realize their error, and stopped the sale… stopped the service, I should say, before a sale was ever completed. With that in mind, I would like to call Mr. Bale to testify as to some of the mitigating factors and overall circumstances of this violation.

[65:07] Absolutely. Thank you very much, Jim, I appreciate it. We realized, obviously, that we made a mistake. You know, we didn't follow the requirements of the city, we didn't follow the requirements of Twisted Pine. And, we take this extremely seriously, and we do accept full responsibility. But with that said, I guess we don't feel like it's a super egregious, type of violation. For one, both of the operatives came in, and, one ordered, and the… our, bartender did put a drink, did pour a drink. In fact, he did check the ID. failed to notice that the, the ID wasn't, of date. Checked the other ID, saw that it wasn't, and immediately took the drink away from the first one without collecting any money, so there actually was no sale.

[66:05] Sale wasn't made, but both IDs were checked. And it was… it was found out relatively quickly. But that said, it was still improper. It still was against any policy we have. We've, like I said, we've been in business now 31 years. We rarely, if ever, have had to have any police presence. As a matter of fact, we're a very community-oriented business. In fact, the police and fire department have both had, events here at Twisted Pine, and we're very proud of that fact. All of our employees are TIPS trained. Our employee handbook clearly states not only requirements for checking IDs, but for checking, any alcohol over-service, or any people who may be, intoxicated, and the procedures that go along with that.

[67:02] We have signage displayed, throughout, throughout the business, explaining any, how we treat, underage. and also what we're doing, we're trying to be proactive with this. We learned. We learned a valuable lesson. We do have cameras, but I'm gonna feel like so many restaurants, they don't work anymore. We've had them forever, and the system just doesn't work. So, as a matter of fact, within the last two days, we've ordered a couple of new cameras so that we can hopefully have some documentation, should this ever occur again, which we're hoping, obviously, it doesn't. We are going to be adding a little bit more to our handbook. Our handbook is… almost 30 pages, but we're going to be adding, a little bit more about alcohol service to it. We currently meet, at the very most, or excuse me, at the very least, once a quarter, and part of the discussion, the all-company discussions that we have, is alcohol service.

[68:02] We're gonna start stepping that up. we are looking at getting into the BARS program. Absolutely. I wish I had known about it before, and I didn't. I think it's a valuable service, and I think it can certainly help. So, with all that said, you know, especially the fact that a sale wasn't made. And our bartender, our server, caught it almost immediately. I just feel it's just not as egregious as just, pouring somebody a beer and letting them have at it. Yeah, appreciate your time, thank you. Great, thank you so much. Any questions from the board for Mr. Bale? Mr. Bail, do you think that this happened because it was just closing time, and people were moving quickly, it was just an oversight from an experienced bartender?

[69:02] Big part of it. Absolutely. It was… we close at 9, we're open 3 to 9, Monday through Thursday, and 11 to 9. We're just not a late night crowd, and I think, as we like to say, the server in question had a brain fart. And, you know, it was quick, he was closing, he had other duties he was doing, sent no excuse, but that was the circumstances. And could you reiterate for me what your policy is on vertical IDs going forward? It's going to be… obviously, any vertical IDs are going to have to get a second check. We generally have… there are occasions we don't, but we generally have managers on duty. And, we're gonna have to… we're gonna definitely get a second pair of eyes on it, on a vertical ID. And, and, Chair Roberts asked this before, but I'm curious, have you, confiscated any fake IDs in the last year, or turned any into the city?

[70:03] We haven't had any. We have not even seen any. We're, you know, for the type of business we are, even though we are family-oriented, we really don't get that crowd. You know, the price that we charge for a beer, we really don't, we don't see a lot of the younger folks. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions for Mr. Bale? Alright, and, at this time, do you have any final statements for us before we close for deliberation? I do not other than to thank the board for taking your time. Likewise. Thank you. Great, thanks. Okay, then at this time, let's close for deliberation.

[71:00] This was an interesting one, I just… Would be open to… Maybe just some days… in abeyance? There was never money exchanged. I think that they mitigated it so fast. I mean, they caught it. So this is… so it's tough, right? So it did sit there for a couple minutes, and then she was… he was… came too, right? And took it away, did the… did the right thing. So I would be… Open to something less than. I mean. Okay. No days served? I don't know, we've never done something like that before, I don't want to start that precedence. there was no money exchanged, and I like to think that… This person just, you know.

[72:08] I had to press undo, like… Any, like, any major objections to something like that? I don't… I… Sorry. Oh, no. Irv Barnes, go ahead. I just… I don't know, I'm checked, I think it's a… I think it's… I think it's fair. Yeah, I was gonna say this is maybe a violation in technicality, but I… it's barely on… on the cusp of a violation. I don't think that we need to, issue any days served for this. I think… It's a good reminder to the licensee, and hey, they have a sharp bartender, someone who's paying attention, you know, and was able to mitigate it relatively quickly, I would… I would absolutely be in favor of, only putting some days in advance.

[73:05] I agree with that. I mean, the deterrence value that we usually have built in isn't really relevant in this situation. I think we need to acknowledge that our rules are serious, but… That's a good… that's a good solution under the circumstances. I'll bet you we're not gonna find another case in 12 months where they stopped and took the… took the alcohol back and said, sorry, out of here. That's not gonna happen very often. Great, then I would make a motion for, 0 days served and… 3 days in advance. The regard would second that. All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Remember Byron's eye?

[74:00] Number car high. Remember, cranine. Member Hagerty, aye. Alright. Motion passed. Thank you, for telling us your story, and good luck. Thank you very much, we appreciate it. Everybody have a good day. Thank you. Okay, thank you. So we will be moving on to Agenda Item 9, which is the continued public hearing and consideration of an application. That's right. filed on December 26, 2025, from Papusa's Lover LLC, doing business as Papusa's Lover 2, 2525 Arapaho Avenue, Unit E1B, Boulder, Colorado 80302, Claudia D. Oy… Owe Hadja. 50% owner and proposed registered manager, and Sylvia D. Cojada Diaz, 50% owner with a premise business mailing address for a new hotel restaurant type liquor license. I do have, we did receive a request for an interpreter for this application. I believe…

[75:13] That is going to be Tanya. Tanya? Thank you so much, let me promote you. And I do have another member with their hand raised. So I will also be promoting them. Tanya, if you can go ahead and unmute yourself and turn on your video? Hello? Hi, Tanya. Hi. I'll go ahead and get you sworn in. Just one moment, please. And then… let me see… Where the other individual with their hand went. Okay, I… I have a member, Yusuros DiZoom is the name, and if you are here to speak on this matter, would you please raise your hand so I can promote you?

[76:14] while we're waiting for that, let me swear you in, Tanya, and then I'll ask you to maybe repeat To the applicant to raise their hand so I can promote them. Tanya, do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will make accurate, complete, and impartial interpretation from the English language into Spanish, and vice versa, of all communications during this proceeding using the best of your skill, judgment, and ability? I do. Thank you. Would you mind asking, please, if anyone is here to speak for Papusa's Lover application, if they would please raise their hand in the chat so I can promote them? Hola, buenas tardes? In Spanish, you mean, right? Yeah. Yes, please. Okay, buenas tardes, estamos buscando alien que este departe de restaurante pupusas. Puede levantar son mano para identificarlo en el Zoom, en la llamada, por favor.

[77:12] Great, and they went ahead and did that, and if you could please ask them to unmute themselves and to turn on their camera? Y por favor, esta persona puede quitar el mute, y tambien poner su camera, video camera para poder verlos. Gracias. And one moment, please, there we go. Jonathan Trujillo, I also have four… this… I believe Jonathan is here to speak for this matter, give me one moment.

[78:12] Hi, Jonathan, can you please… Unmute yourself and turn on your camera, please? etc. monitoring. la… that then? Sorry, Claudia, kija. Hi, good afternoon, I'm Claudia Quijada. Jonathan, you are still muted. There we go, you are muted. Can you see me? We can't see you yet, but we can hear you. That's weird. Plus, start video, okay. There, there it is. Fantastic. Okay, so, Jonathan, you are representing… Your client for this, correct?

[79:00] I'm not… I'm the accountant, I'm just here for support, but I'm not representing them, I'm just helping her, in case she gets stuck with something. She's representing herself. Great. Then, I will go ahead and… swear in the applicant. Tanya, if you… can go ahead. For the applicant. Do you want to repeat after you? Yes, please. Yes. If they can please say their name and spell their name. Si, por favor, puede decir su nombre y del entre su nombre. Es Claudia and Quijada? It's Claudia Quijada. And give an address, please. Y danos tudo misilo, por favor. 20 dollars… ano, 207 is Canyon Plains, Aurora, Colorado.

[80:00] Adame segundo. East Canyon Place, Aurora, Colorado? Okay. 800 uno tres. Okay. 2749 East Canyon Place, Aurora, Colorado, 80013. Or del negocio. Or… or do you need the one for the business? Nope. No, ese es correcto. And… So I will swear in… I will swear in Claudia first, and then I'll swear in Jonathan. Y voy a primero ponera bajo testimonio, Claudia y luego a Jonathan. Claudia, if you can please raise your hand? Claudia, si por favorpues levantar tumano. And do you testify that… that… do you affirm that the testimony you are about to give before the BLA.

[81:00] A firmas que el testimonio que vas a dar ahora enfrente del bea. You're not feedable. Es, es verdad. Yes, it's true. Thank you. And I will swear in Jonathan as well. Jonathan, if you can please say your name and spell your name. Jonathan Trujillo, J-O-N-A-T-H-A-N. Trujillo, T-R-U-J-I-L-L-O. And if you can please give an address for the record? Yes, 22119 East South Circle, Aurora, Colorado, 80015. And please raise your hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in this matter before the licensing… Beverage Licensing Authority is true? I do. Great. Fantastic. I will go ahead and turn it over to Chair Roberts.

[82:05] Great, thank you so much. Alright. Since, you are not being represented by an attorney, I'll go ahead and read the procedures into the record. Como no esta siendo representad por una abogado voy a leer los procedimientos en el record. Interpreter, Tanya, do you happen to have this in front of you, what I'm about to read out loud? the… procedures? Maybe I… let me see… Do I have that, Sarah? That link that I sent you to the packet. It's the very first, so it'll be, item number 9. the vision. Yeah. pages in there. It should be 2 pages. Does she have the entire packet? Yes. It's page 178.

[83:01] In the entire… Okay, I'm looking… I have, is it the… Is it the one… it's not the one that says… no, wait. Not the one that says agenda, no. No, it'd be the next one after that. It would start with Hearing Procedures Outline. It's the very first page after the green page. And it's okay, I'm happy to read… tooth… Go slow. Okay, that's fine too. Did you find it? I'm look… I think I'm my agenda packet. Okay, hold on, I think I find it. Pooh. Oh, yeah. What… what page is it? 178? Okay, almost there. 178… Okay, I got it. Thanks. Absolutely. So, I'm going to, read Well, you'll see. Part of it. Okay.

[84:00] I'll do the top part. Slow, we'll do a back and forth, because I'm going to fill in the blanks, and then I'll read the second part, and then you can read the second part. Does that sound good? Yeah, I wonder if you can still see me right now. I can see you. Okay, perfect. Great, thank you so much. This is a public hearing before the Beverage Licensing Authority of the City of Boulder to determine whether or not the application of applicant Papusa's Lover LLC, DBA, Papusa's Lover 2. Esto es una audiencia para de enfrente de la authoridad de licens de Bevidas, de la Ciudad de Boulder para terminar sono la applicacion del applicante pupusas lover. DBA Popusa's Lover 2. De be a pupusas lover dos.

[85:03] For a new hotel restaurant type liquor license. Para un nuevo hotel tipo restaurante, licencia. Shall be granted or denied. Para ver si se va a permitir, o se va a no se va a permitir. This hearing is conducted pursuant to the laws of the State of Colorado and the rules of the Beverage Licensing Authority of the City of Boulder. Esta audiencia se conduce de acuerdo la leyes del Estado de Colorado y las reglas de las bebidas de licensoridades de licens de la Ciudad de Boulder. And if you're okay with this, I'll read the next paragraph and then let you interpret the next… read the next one? Okay, great. The purpose of this hearing is to receive information, data, and testimony by interested parties in order to enable this authority to make the findings and to reach the conclusions required to be made by state law as to whether or not the license applied for shall issue.

[86:12] Interested parties are the applicant residents of the neighborhood under consideration, and the owners and managers of a business located in the neighborhood under consideration. For purposes of determining who is an interesting party at this hearing, the neighborhood under consideration is the neighborhood previously defined by the authority. The authority shall make a final determination of the affected neighborhood prior to determining whether the license shall be issued. Any interested party may speak to the question of neighborhood designation, as well as other information relevant to the granting or denial of the application. El proposito esta audiencia es recibir informacion y datos y testimonos de los partidos interesados en esta orden para poder

[87:07] Darle a esta authoridad. informacion para hacer en cuento soda investigacion Eye… Poder, llegar a una conclusion, requesterida. Por el estado, por la ley, asi… Ya se ha para… Si la… si la licencia. Si se aplicol la licensia uno para tal tema. Las partidos interesados, son, el applicante, los residentes del vecindario. Dentro de la consideracion, los duenos y los gerentes del los negocios. Que estan en les se vecindario que se esta considerando. Los… Los propositos?

[88:00] No, para los propositos, para determinar quienes el partido interesado, en esta audiencia, el desindario con… El vecidario en el que se esta considerando. Es el recindario anteriormente definido por laudoridad. La authoridad puede hacer una… Final determinacion de acerca del vesindario afectado, Anteriormente a determinar. Si hace la licencia, se va a… A emitir, si se levada la licencia. Cualquier partido interesado puede hablar. acerca de la cuestion del vecindario designado o de la designacion del vesindario. Asi tambien de otra informacion relevante a que se o que se de niege, El acceso a la applicacion.

[89:07] Okay. Thank you. to the board? This will, I'm just going to speak now, but I will pause so you can repeat, if that's okay. So, I'm asking the board if there's any conflicts of interest. Estoy preguntando a los personas aqui, que si hay algun conflict de interes. Or has there been any ex parte communication? O sea, al consejo tambien le preguntos y avido, algun otro tipo de comunicacion fuera de aqui de la conferencia que estamos teniendo hoy. Remember, Robert, no? Under Barnes, no. Member card, no. Remember, Robert. Remember crying? No.

[90:00] Y dicin, no. Member Hagerty, no. Y el miembro Hagerty disaguero. Great, then… If, you are ready, You can proceed. Y estas listo puedes, es… Proced there? Is she ready to proceed? Estas lista para… para darto presentacion. Si. Thanks, Dana. Yes, I am. Okay. You may. Pues, recibimos, y simos lo del T training, ya, porque cuando mision entrevista hace un mes. Via un poco de… de… a lo mejor no estaba preparada, pero ya hisimos healthy training con mis muchachos, con nos trabajadores de restaurante.

[91:05] Si puede hacerlo cada dos este como pausado, por favor. Okay. But I… okay. Way I interpret that La Primo, I was just explaining her. We received… we… we received the TIP training about a month ago. We weren't ready with my… my team. We were not ready, but, we received the TIP training. No? Were you able… To send the… actually, maybe we have not. Were you able to send… In the, certificates? U diste enviar los certificados del entrenamiento. If I may, I emailed, that yesterday, or the day before, to somebody in the team. I believe it's, Caitlin Kellogg. Yeah, I see that now. It's like a spreadsheet, for the other members of the board. It was sent separately.

[92:06] Listed as an exhibit. Yes. Thank you. Let's let, interpreter Tanya Catch up. Little fancy. Si, Jonathan, decia que el embio el certificados, ya, del entrenamiento. P. Lande. Y na amarlo recuerdo que pause para que yo puede interpreter. Si, entonces, pues, no se que mas, Que mas sigue, nosotros ya estamos listos con el equipo para poder… servir alcol, sentimo que eso nos ayudo mucho. El entrenamiento. We feel that the training really helped us. We are ready to serve, and I don't know what is the next steps for… for us to already serve alcohol, to be… to be able to… to do it.

[93:10] This is the step. Este es el paso. Do you have anything else you would like to tell us about this, and… Why we're here today? Hay alguna otra cosar mas que tu queas decirnos sobre esto el entremento, o porque estas aqui el dia de hoy. Pues, estamos aqui por el dia de hoy para haber si… Somos a probado por ustedes. Para servir al col en nuestro restaurante a la comunidad. Well, we're here… In this meeting today, for us to see if we are eligible to serve alcohol in our restaurant in our community.

[94:03] Excellent. Do we have any questions from the board? Tenemos algunas preguntas de el consejo. Do you know, what percentage of your sales you expect to be alcohol versus food? Tu sabes que por centaje de tus ventas seran alcol y cuanto seran de comida de su portentaje. And joking! Uno 20% de alcohol, es mas comida, es mas un restaurant familiar. I think it would be around 20-30% alcohol, and the rest, would be food. It's more of a family restaurant.

[95:03] Like, our crowd is families. Did, did the company who did the liquor training Did they, review your internal policy? La compania del liquor que le diso su entrenamiento, ellos revisaron sus politicas y regularmento interior. Correcto, si. Yes, correct. What age did they recommend a person to appear in order to ID them. I'm sorry, to appear? Like, how old do they have to look? Okay. In order to… To, to ask for an identification.

[96:01] Okay. Que dad le recomendaron que seria para pedirles un identificacion quedad como de quedar se tenian que mirar o ver a parentar. Todo el tiempo. Tenemos que preunar por el a idea todo tiempo. all the time. We have to ask for an IT at all times. Huh. Then, why in your alcohol policy You say that it must be of any person who appears under 40. How will… what I'm trying to understand is how will she… how are people being trained if… It's inconsistent. Como esta entrenando a las personas, entonces si en su politica, su regalamento que tienen usted dice que cualquier persona que aparenta ser menor de 4enta le tienen que pedir su…

[97:02] Su documentacion. Entonces, como lo entrenan a al personal. Bueno nos entrenamos para pedir identificacion, a todas las personas que, por primera vez vengan consumir al cold, obviamente se sabe que es debenti un anos en adelante, yo pueden tomar. So, we trained them to ask, ID to all the people who come in to… to ask for a beverage, an alcohol beverage. Obviously, we know that they have to be 21 years and older. And then may I state, that, we did the policy before we had the training, so it could be that Lawrence from the liquor license training staff, told us, you know, to just ask ID for everybody at the end. I wasn't there at the training. But we did fill that out before the training, and maybe they… they thought differently than what… what we thought, so now they're telling them to just cart everybody.

[98:10] Do you want me to translate that? Yes, I do, I'm sorry. Okay. Entonces, puedo Jonathan Dijo, que la politica de seizo la habian escrito antes de la entrenamiento, y que posiblemente eso fuelo que paso. Correct. C-correct. Then, if the training was a month ago, and… if… We were to approve this today, your… How come… how come you're not showing us an updated policy for how you're actually going to train people? Promo si el entrenamiento fue haciend mes y es lo quieremos a probar hoy…

[99:00] Porque no nos hacen ensenado una actualizacion de su reglamento de su politica. And if I may, I could answer that question. I could submit it to you, to you guys right away. I just wasn't aware of, if they wanted us to change that or not. I could make the change and resubmit that, that, that, policy. Y si yo, natin dice yo si puedo, si me permitable, yo poder decir que podemos a ser esa esa cambio en reglamento antes de que hagan cualquier este approvacion. Pretty good? Are there any other questions from the board? Hay algun otra pregunta de el consejo. Yes, I have one question. Si, yo tengo una pregunta. What is your policy around vertical IDs?

[100:01] Cual es tu politica en cuanto a las identificaciones verticales. Los menores tienen creo que la vertical aqui en Colorado, no? So, minors have the vertical, license here in Colorado. Horizontanes para rivas. Oh. Yes, in Colorado, that's correct. Si, en Colorado, eso es correcto. eos son los menores para… is, Los mayores dementi un ano la tiene, Vertical y los menores horizontal in Colorado. deeper. The older that… older than 21 have… Vertical, and my under 21 have horizontal.

[101:06] It's… it's the other way around. Under 21 are vertical, and over 21 are horizontal. es de hecho es al reves. Correcto, Yes, I mixed up, I'm sorry, that's correct, I mixed it up, yes. And the reason I ask is because other states may allow for folks who are over 21 to have a vertical ID, so I'm curious what the policy will be when they receive any IDs that are vertical. Y la pregunta lago porque hay otras estados que permite en tener. a los personas mayores 71 tener una… identificacion vertical, entonces, mi pregunta para usted es que como va a estar en su politica escrito.

[102:01] Siempre, que tenggan 22 un ano. In my… in my policy, it would be that they always have to check if they're actually 21. Great. My suggestion is just to double-check vertical IDs, because that is one of the oftentimes where most of the violations occur. When people are almost 21, or… Just under 21. y mi su herencia es que en su politica lo escriba que siempre checking dos veces doblemente las identificaciones que son verticales, porque hay donde muchos de las violaciones su seen, cuando las Personas estan aproximando los 22 anos, o estar un poco antes de cumplir los 20 unos.

[103:00] Okay, gracias. Okay, thank you. Other questions from the board? Alguna otra pregunta del consejo? Member Crane, I noticed you unmuted yourself. Did you have a question? quitaste tu silencio tienes alguna product. Remember, car covered what I had in mind. I'm all good. Thank you. Nate con nego una pregunta. Any other questions? Or… Okay, then do you have a closing statement, or anything else you would like us to know? Okay… Tienes alguna… alguna final declaracion, o algo que quiera cerrar tu presentacion.

[104:06] No, agradecer por el tiempo y por el aprendizaje que hemos recidivo. No, I just want to be very thankful for, for the training and for the attention that you've given us. Thank you. And at this time, we will close for board deliberation. Asi que vamos a serrar para la deliberacion del consejo de las la toma de decisiones. Chair Roberts, I did notice that there is a, the petition forming… form in here, but we have not heard from, Liquor Pros on this. Actually, Chair, chair, chair car, member car, they were here… this is actually a continuance from last month.

[105:02] Oh, okay. MicroPros presented. Oh, an interpreter, Tanya. Este realmente una continuacion de hace poco que se estaba sig dando seguimiento. Es darle seguimiento es a peticiona, esa aplicacion. This is a continuance. for… Kind of similar reasons, where it just… they… It didn't sound… Like, they knew… laws around… Having a liquor license. Parecia que no conocian las leyes o la legislacion al rededor de tener una licencia de lycor. The main difference I see is this time they did do training.

[106:03] Y la gran diferencia que veo es que esta vez y aicieron un entrenamiento. But as I kind… I called out and identified, it didn't change their policy. Pero como lo identificamos hoy no han cambiado aun su politica, su regulamento. However, it's not that it's a… really bad policy, it's that they're not familiar with their policy. And that was a red flag for me. Y sin embargo no es que se una mala politica, sino que ellos mismos nos tan familiarizados, o no con nos envien su politica, y eso si lo que a mi me preocupa. And we voted to… we made a motion that Liquor Pros didn't have to come back.

[107:01] Sorry, can you repeat that? I was answering Member Carr's question, so Liquor Pros didn't need to come back and present again. We accepted their, testimony. Y estaba contestandole que liquid no obten necesitaban regresar. Porque ya sisimos un amocion. Thank you. Based on that, I have to have a quick question for Mr. Phipps. Since I wasn't present at the last meeting, I didn't see the LiquorPro's presentation, I have reviewed it. Am I still able to vote on this, or should I abstain? You can vote on this if you feel like you are comfortable with the information that's in the record, and you understand all that was presented at the last hearing. If you don't feel comfortable with that, you can also abstain. It's your decision based on how you feel you understand the evidence. But there's no prohibition on that, just to be clear.

[108:00] Thank you. Interpreter, Tanya, did you catch that? Yeah. Do you want to brief her? Yeah. Repeat that if you need me to. No, that's fine. Okay. El… el miembro… Michael Carr, estaba preguntando, que si el podia hacer una decision en basada el dia de hoy, como miembro del consejo, sin haber estado en la presentacion anterior, dondes two Ball Liquor Pros, y le dijo que si puede hacer una decision. Hmm. I think Mu might have lost both of them. I don't… We did. Tigue ahi, senora, Claudia? I don't see them in attendees, so let's give them a moment to hopefully… Come back.

[109:06] There's nothing in my email. Are we allowed to continue deliberation, or no? A good prohibition about this either, but again, it's gonna create some odd situations if they do rejoin the meeting and we need to bring them up to speed with the translator. We may consider tabling this, or perhaps taking a short break, just to allow them… comes back. the interpreter. Jonathan? Perhaps. Unmute. Jonathan? We'll just hold off a second, and looks like they're trying to get back on. Thank you. nope. Okay, start video.

[110:02] Do you guys see me? Yes. So, sorry about that, my phone… my phone, turned off on me, unexpectedly. I apologize. No worries, and it looks like Claudia, also dropped off at the exact same time. Okay. Is she back? I do not have her back in attendees yet. It says the system took her out, she texted me. Let me tell her. I think she's trying to get back on.

[111:05] She's trying to, she's trying to get back on. Thank you. Priya que estoyola. I'm here, back here, sorry, hi. Great. And we will continue with deliberation. Y vamos a continuar, entonces, con las decision. Other discussion amongst the board. algun otra discusion en otro el consejo.

[112:01] Anybody leaning a certain way, wanna… talk about it, I'm… I don't know. Alguien que se inclinando a alguna decision quiere hablar de eso. It's a member Haggerty, you know. Could things be stronger? A little bit? Yeah, more, maybe more familiarity with the, alcohol policy, you know, is… you know, I hate to deny because of that, or, you know, continue to push that, you know, to next month. you know, I'm… I'm leaning towards, you know, approving, maybe with some, you know, perhaps some check-ins, just to see how things are going. Just to, you know, to see if their… their comfortability with everything is improved.

[113:03] So, that's… kind of maybe what the direction I'm leaning. Oh. you know, because I think that, you know, they've… it seems like, you know, they've asked… I wasn't here last month, But, you know, I've kind of, reviewed the notes, you know, it looks like, you know, they're doing what we're asking, it's just that, you know, what is our comfortability with, you know, making sure that they are familiar with that policy and that they, understand the vertical ID, And, you know, it's… important to ID everyone, and then just that becomes habit, right? So I'm inclined to approve, but maybe with some conditional check-ins in the next few months to see how things are going. Let's give, interpreter Tanya a second to interpret that.

[114:00] But I wouldn't… Si yo, yo el miembro Hagerty, estoy inclinando, me, me inclino a que… That's weekly. me inclino a que la… bueno, ellos, lo que me esta pensando es que necesito que esten mas familiarizados que conoscan la politica de alco, me inclino, me estoy inclinando como a probar. Pero… pero en cuanto, a que quiero que quiero checar, que estemos checcando, como… como van. continuamente, en lugar de seguir impugando otra junta de estas para deliberacion en un mes. Yo nuesto ver la otra junta, pero reviser los datos, y sieron lo que pedimos. lo que me importaria mucho estar segurarnos es de que conoscan la politica del col. Se pan exactamente cuales son las identificaciones verticales, y que siempre esten checkando todo las identificaciones. Entonces, yo me inclino a probar el dia de hoy la licencia, pero haciendo le chequeo de repente.

[115:12] En el tiempo. Gracias. Thank you. Other, comments or motions? Yeah, I mean, it's not the best policy we've seen, and I think it's a… It… It's, it's, it's… but I think it's, it's sufficient. to grab the light. Awesome. In my opinion, also hearing from some of the testimony. I… Think that we should… Imposes a condition that they re-send us their alcohol policy before next meeting with the updated information that we discussed today.

[116:05] Is… are you making a motion? Or, let's let. Yeah, I was letting… I was pausing. Okay, let's let Interpreter Tanya Interpret, and then you can proceed. No esla mejor politica que visto yo, el miembro Michael Carr, pero, me parece que fued ser suficiente para audoriar la licensia. Seen embargo, me pareceria muy bueno que ellos nos envien la politica actualizada. Okay? Anybody else? Alienmas? Member Haggerty, did you have a specific… I wanted to make sure… we got your specific thoughts in mind, and you said something about, I don't know if you wanted to make a…

[117:01] a. Oh. No, it was nothing specific, but I think, you know, if it's a requirement on providing an updated policy, I think that would… be sufficient. Right. Done. Okay. I would make a motion to… Approve this, we'll see. Or this… License. Yeah. Okay, yo voy a mandar unoccion para probar esta licencia. I get a towel. Oh, sorry. What's happening? So, I'm sorry. a second. Starting more? Any analyses on that, or no, it's just… You can… I just was trying to move to…

[118:02] You need to… get us somewhere, so if the answer is no, there's no second, that's fine. Somebody else can make a motion, an amended motion. So if you guys had something in mind, now would be… time. I'm not as concerned about getting the updated policy. I… my questioning and concerns came out of wanting them to succeed and not be before us, because… Boop. messed up, so… I'm leaning towards approving. I agree with you guys, this is not the best policy that we've seen. I've asked the same questions a couple times. I… going into this one with more of, like, a good faith, that I think that they really want this, and, I… I do believe they're gonna do their best. That's. Let's share your point of view. So then I would… so…

[119:01] And I could make that into a sec… a second for your motion, so that we can discuss it, vote on it. All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Amber Barnes, aye. Number car, I… Yes. Ukraine. You don't remember? What? Haggard AI. Give interpreter Tanya a moment to catch up? bueno, este miembra Leah Roberts dice que esto de acuerdo, no es la mejor politica que hemos visto, pero parece que realmente ellos han hecho muchos fuerzo para conseir la licencia, porque. There's an answer. Vemos que tienen mucha motivacion para conseguir la licencia. Entonces… voy a mandar una emocion para que lo a problemos, pero lo estamos haciendo de buena fe, porque realmente creo que lo quieren, y esperamos que…

[120:01] Hagan lo mejor que puedan. I'm just… Interpreter, Tanya, I have one more… Closing, Just, as advice, if you would just say, like, please just really, the penalty is… is strong, and we just really want them to do their best. And good luck. Y bueno, solo mi consejo dandolicencia es que las penalidades para si cometen un error. Es son muy graves, y muy altas. Entonces, nosotros le recomendamos seguir todo alpied de laletra. Pero les damos de seamos muy buena suerte. Okay, let me… If they need anything, they can contact Officer Reck at the police department.

[121:00] And they can contact, the city's… the city, the county office. Y si necesitan algo mas adicional, este pueden contactar al oficial REC en el Departamento de Policias. O a la ciudad o al condado. Gracias. Thank you. Thank you so much, and then just for the record, I will be submitting the updated, policy plan. Okay. for this client, okay? Great. Thank you. For your help. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you, Interpreter Tanya. Gracias. Yes, Spania. Thank you. Thank you. Gracias. We don't. Thank you, Tom. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everyone, for your patience. Thank you. Well, we know it's… We will go ahead and move on now to Agenda Item 10, which is public hearing and consideration for an application filed on February 4th, 2026. From Joy Hospitality, LLC, doing business as Odd Rabbit, 5863 Arapahoe Avenue, number A2, Boulder, Colorado, 80303. Joy Hospitality, LLC, 100% owner, Michael Lee Pope, Jr, 35% owner, Christopher Tiegland, 32.5% owner, Ariana Tiegland, 32.5%.

[122:21] 5% owner with a business mailing address of 80… 47 Decatur Street, Westminster, Colorado, 80031 for a new hotel restaurant type liquor license. I do see Carol has her hand raised, and if anybody else is here to speak on this matter, please raise your hand so I can go ahead and promote you. Getting everybody situated and in here.

[123:08] And Fern, if you can turn on your video and unmute? There we go. Good afternoon. Fantastic. So, Fern, if it's all right with you, I will go ahead and, swear in Ariana and Carol, and then I will turn it over to you to go ahead and, Proceed. Fine. Oh, and Carol is ready, so I'll go first with Carol. Nope, that works, you're ready, it works, I love it. Carol Johnson, if you could please say your name and spell your name, please. Harold Johnson, J-O-H-N-S-O-N, for Liquor Frost. And a record, or an address for the record, please. 5515 Saddle Rock Place, Colorado Springs. And your hand is already up. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in the matter before the Beverage Licensing Authority is true?

[124:04] Yes, I do. Thank you. Ariana, I'll swear you in, please. If you can give your name, and spell your name, and an address for the record, please. My name is Ariana Tegland, A-R-I-A-N-A-T-E-I-G-L-A-N-D. Address is 8047 Decatur Street, Westminster, Colorado, 80031. Great, if you can raise your hand, please. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give in the matter before the Beveraging and Licensing Authority is true? I do. Great. And Fern, would you like to record your appearance? Yes. Good afternoon, I'm Fern O'Brien. And I'm an attorney, and I'm representing the applicant today, Joy Hospitality, LLC, doing business as Odd Rabbit, and my, attorney registration number is 26912.

[125:01] Okay, thank you so much. Oh, sorry, okay. And Attorney O'Brien, are you comfortable with waiving the, procedures into the record? Yes, I am. Thank you. Great. Then this is a public hearing before the Beverage Licensing Authority for the City of Boulder to determine whether or not the application of applicant Joy Hospitality LLC, DBA, Odd Rabbit. for a… New hotel restaurant type liquor license shall be granted or denied. To the board, has there been any ex parte communication or conflicts of interest with this establishment? Member Roberts, no. Never burns? No. member car, no. Remember, Crane? You are muted. Apologies, Member Crane, no.

[126:02] Member Hagerty. Excellent. If you're ready, you may proceed. Good, thank you, thank you very much. Really appreciate being here today. The first thing that, I'd like to do is call Carol Johnson from Liquor Pros and give her, to give her testimony about the petitioning, the process and the results. So, Carol? Thank you. First of all, Liquor Pros is a neutral third-party petitioning company that provides needs and desires, surveys for liquor and marijuana license applications. as well as providing responsible vendor training, we do not guarantee our results. In this case, in Boulder, we do use the map and the paperwork that is supplied by the City of Boulder, and we use tally sheets to log all of our attempts and the results, which in turn becomes the summary that you have before you. I just start the closest to the location and radiate out.

[127:00] So we have samples of different areas. The residents in this case were done on Sunday, March 29th, and businesses on Monday, March 30th. From that, we made 85 attempts at businesses and 266 at residents for a total of 351 attempts, which resulted in 120 signatures, 119 in favor, and 1 in opposition. Business, survey provided 50 signatures, 49 in support and 1 in opposition, and the residents provided 70 in support and 0 in opposition. There was no reason why the one person did sign in opposition. We had 25 who declined to participate, 9 who don't sign any surveys or petitions, 8 were not interested, and 8 were too busy. We had 24, who were not qualified. 13 of those were businesses that we did not… that did not have an owner or manager available. 7 were non-residents.

[128:01] Three were under 21, and one did not speak or read English well enough to participate. So I do believe that this shows that there is a need and desire for this new liquor license, with only one in opposition and no reason given for that. I'd be more than glad to answer any questions you might have. Thank you so much. Are there any questions from the board? About this survey. I'm not seeing any. You may proceed. All right, thank you so much, Carol. Thank you. I would like to now call, Ariana Tiegland. Goodbye. Ms. Johnson, if you wanted to leave, You're more than welcome. Okay, thank you very much, I appreciate that. Thank you, thank you. Sorry, go ahead. So, hi Ariana, you already stated your name and spelled it in your address, so, tell us about your restaurant. Yes, good afternoon. We are going to primarily serve sushi, ramen, some small plates. It'll be similar to our restaurant in Denver, in that it'll be, hopefully, a very…

[129:17] A spot for regulars, like a community place for families, and hopefully a destination for visitors as well. Right, and what is your position with the company? I am an owner and general manager. Okay, very good. And how is the restaurant financed? Entirely by Michael Pope's personal accounts. Okay, and is the trademark Odd Rabbit properly registered with the Colorado Secretary of State? It is. And let's talk a little bit about the possession and control of the premises at 5863 Arapaho Boulevard Suite 2A. Do you have a lease?

[130:00] Yes, we have a lease. Very good. And did you post notice of the… this hearing on the premises? We did on April 2nd of this year, which was at least 10 days before today's hearing. Okay, great. And I have noticed that your restaurant is in this brand new mixed-use development. Can you tell us a little bit about the location of that? I'm pretty sure it's across the street from the… Golf course on Arapahoe, is that correct? Yes, the neighborhood is a new mixed-use development on the north side of Arapaho, east of 55th Street. It's mostly apartments, there's some office spaces and retail shops, and one other restaurant. Okay, so you are going to be the second restaurant? Yes. Great, great. Could you describe your experience in the restaurant liquor business?

[131:00] Yeah, I've worked in the industry for over a decade. I've been managing restaurants for 7 years, maintained liquor licenses for other restaurant groups, and… I have owned and operated Glow Noodle House in Denver for over 4 years, no violations there. I have a hotel restaurant license, correct? Yes. Great. And my husband, Chris, has roughly 15 years of experience in the restaurant business, too, running kitchens. Great, great. So let's, Just describe the restaurant a little bit, so that we can kind of establish the security of the liquor and how that all operates. Yeah, sweet. ahead. We have our liquor stored in a locked, designated area. We have a cage with locks. We do have a patio, but it is fenced. You can see the patio from inside the restaurant, and you can only enter the patio through the restaurant.

[132:06] Great. And what are the hours of operation for your new restaurant, when it opens? Yeah, we're planning on Monday through Thursday, 4pm to 9pm, Friday and Saturday, 4pm to 10pm, and then we're closed on Sundays. Right. And tell us about… is there table service, or will it be, like, service at a counter, or ordering at a counter, or just tell us a little bit about that. It's fine, casual dining, but it's a full table service with servers. Okay, great. And there's a bar. Yes. Also, yeah, our… But not in a separate room, there's just a bar where you can sit. Correct. It's a full-service bar, the whole food menu is offered at the bar, and it closes the same time as the kitchen.

[133:03] Okay, very good. So, I'm sure you know, the hotel restaurant type license requires that the licensed restaurant provide full meals and then light snacks. It also requires that at least 25% of the restaurant's gross sales be from the sale of food. Can you tell us what you estimate the… that ratio to be? Yeah, we estimate it should be around 70% of the sales coming from food, which is what our percentage is in Denver. Yeah, we… We'll be mostly a food spot, for sure. Great, and this isn't totally relevant, but I think it's so great that, your restaurant in Denver has been recognized by Michelin 3 years in a row? Yeah, yeah, we're really excited. So you're definitely a food-oriented kind of a… The star is the food, and liquor is, primarily served to just enjoy with the meal, but food is what we're known for.

[134:06] That's great. So, in your opinion, Tiana, do you think the issuance of this license will have an adverse effect on the health, welfare, or morals of the neighborhood? No, we're very locally owned and operated. My husband and I actually met working at Black Belly down the street, so it feels really natural for us to open a restaurant in the same area. We're excited to bring, a space with incredible food and atmosphere to East Boulder. I think. It'll be a positive impact on the neighborhood. That's great. And you are familiar, I mean, you have held a liquor license in Denver For the past 4 years with no, violations. Correct. I think you said. So, you are familiar… can you just state that you are familiar, if that's true, with the liquor code? Yes, I am. I just did my recertification with

[135:05] We go by the LED-approved vendor list, so Craft RVT is who I do it through. My entire staff is required to be certified as well. I do require that, for all my staff, but for this location specifically, prior to employment, they have to get certified through that program as well. And then, do you have any other steps that you take to make sure that people are compliant with respect to serving visibly intoxicated people or underage people? Yeah, my staff is educated, on the physical and behavioral signs that someone is intoxicated, and they don't serve those guests. It's our policy to provide multiple safe alternatives home. We don't serve to underage people. All guests must produce adequate identification of age that's valid and unexpired. It's our policy in Denver that anything besides a horizontal ID must be double-checked by a manager.

[136:11] Yay. Right. Is there anything else that you would like to add at this time? I don't think so, but I'm happy to answer any questions. Great. That's great, thank you. I, I… No more questions for Ariana, but does anyone from the authority have a question? Thank you so much. Any questions? From the authority? One question. I was reviewing the liquor policy, and you mentioned that, well, the vertical IDs would not be… or you'd have to double-check those. I didn't see anything specifically in the liquor policy about that, Is that… is it something you're gonna add to it, or what's your thought process there? Yeah, we will update that. I noticed before the hearing that it wasn't in there either, but that is in practice in Denver, and I plan on implementing it in Boulder as well.

[137:10] Great. And as you probably heard from… if you've been sitting in on the rest of these, these, Other items, agenda items, that's been the primary challenge for other, other licensees. When they're getting violations, so… Yeah. Great. Lots of experience with that. Any other questions from the board? Not seeing any, so if you have a closing statement… Yes, I would just like to say that, it's been a pleasure working with Ariana and her group, and they are very experienced, and, are very knowledgeable about the liquor code, have not had any violations. They're excited about coming to Boulder with their wonderful menus, and ideas, and, I respectfully request that their liquor application be approved.

[138:08] Thank you. Great, thank you so much. So then, at this time, we can close for… Deliberation. I thought it was… Fantastic, presentation. Thanks for following up with that great question, Member Carr. Any… Any discussion? Any motions? I'm sure the East Boulder neighborhood's going to be very happy to have them. Cassie. I'm very jealous it's not in South Boulder. Be honest, we need this down here. I would make a motion to accept this application. Is there a second?

[139:00] I will second that motion. Member Crane seconds it. All those in favor, say aye. Member Roberts, aye. Roberta's eye. Ms. Member Carrier? Evercar, aye. Very annoying. Member Hegarty, I… Great! Good luck, welcome back to Boulder, I suppose? Thank you so much. expect 3 Michelin stars, for the next 3 years. I know. molded. I was thinking, because Blackbelly is now opening up a location here in South Boulder, maybe you guys will follow suit, follow them down here, too. Stay neighbors, yeah, I like that. Thank you. Very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks. Great, thank you, everybody. So we will move on to Agenda Item 11, which is matters from the City Attorney.

[140:00] We don't have any matters, board members, but if you do have any questions, happy to answer those, and I want to apologize for Roberta not being here, but thanks for having me and letting me serve as your counsel today. Thank you. Okay, great. Agenda item 12, matters from the licensing clerk. Legislative update, there is none for April. Surprisingly, there are no boundary settings for this hearing either. We do have expected administrative processing of a liquor license transfer. Now, there's nothing for the board to do here. You don't… Have to vote or deliberate, it's just simply administrative information that we're required to pass along. And that will be for Owl Coffee Roasters, LLC, doing business as OWL Coffee Roasters, 2355 30th Street, Boulder, Colorado, 80301 for a transfer of a tavern-type liquor license. There should also have been included the special event liquor permits list, and also the liquor license renewals, list sent out to you all in the packet. I did have an additional,

[141:06] add-on, nothing that you all have to vote on or decide on today, but you will be receiving an email from either myself or Caitlin, with dates so that we can begin scheduling, the BLA retreat for this year. So just a heads up on that. Hopefully that will be getting into your inbox, Hopefully no later than the end of next week. That is all from us, from the licensing clerk. So, agenda item 13 is items from the authority. Any items from the authority? Not seeing any. Okay. Fantastic, then that brings us to the last agenda item, which is adjournment. Great, I would make a motion to adjourn. I second that motion. Member Barnes? All those in favor say aye. Remember Robert's eye?

[142:01] Amber Burns, right? Number car, right? Member Crane, you're muted. Amber crane off. Timer Huggerty eye. Great. Meeting adjourned at 5.25 PM. Everyone. Thank you, everyone. Have a lovely evening. You too, Sarah. drop, Sarah.