June 21, 2023 — Beverage Licensing Authority Regular Meeting

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[0:01] Alright recording started. and this I would say, so I guess I'll call the meeting to order at 3 0 one pm. On Wednesday, June 20. First. Perfect thanks and if you're joining us for the first time in a while, and you've been to the early meetings before, I will point out that the format does look different if you're here to speak on a matter that's on the agenda today, or get public comment, you will have your chance to do that. You'll be able to appear on camera and everything. we're just gonna go, I know. and I'll promote you. So If you're in the attendees list, don't worry. You will be able to speak when you're when you're at The first item on our agenda is instructions for virtual hearing and rules of decorum. And I'll share my screen.

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[2:01] participants are required to sign up to speak, using the name they are calling them by an individuals must display their whole name before being allowed to speak online. Currently, only audio test only is permitted online. And that's for public comment. Okay. next on our agenda is roll call. If you'll just speak your presence out loud. member absolute number absolute present member for Member car present. the Member Arts. Member Roberts. Thank you. And Member California will not be joining us today. next, you have approval of beverage licensing authority. Minutes from May seventeenth, 2,023, as everyone had the chance to review them. Okay, can I? I'll member car will make a motion to approve the minutes. Remember, Roberts a second.

[3:04] all in favor member car. I remember Roberts. I number absolute. I thank you. Next we have hearing agenda issues from licensing clerk. There's 2 things that I'll mention today. The first one is that Yesterday you were sent an exhibit, and that will go under agenda. Item 9, which is matters from city attorney. and so for sure. And we'll discuss that in about memo under agenda, item 9. And then, secondly, the agenda was slightly amended from what was posted in the paper we added just one more application for a boundary setting, because it wasn't. We're not taking public comment on those We were able to post publication. So and that's why you received an amended agenda for this one. and that's it, for agenda issues from licensing quick.

[4:02] next. We have matters from Border police department, and Officer Denning was not able to make it today. We up to yet anything that he wanted to relate to the board this month, and he didn't have anything. So where? That's an easy one. and it looks like same thing from for agenda. Item, 3 matters from responsible association of retailers. I don't believe anyone is here for this matter. and I did not receive any materials to be really to you all. next, I have agenda. Item, 4. General public comments for future beverage licensing authority. If anyone is present who would like to give general public comments to the board on something that is not on the agenda for this month. Go ahead and use the raise hand function and let me know

[5:04] I'm not seeing any hands raise a real kid who's on? Yes. all right. Next, we have agenda. Item 5, which is public hearing and consideration of an application filed on May ninth, 2,023, from parce gas and Food, Inc. Dba. Buffalo gas by 5 0 0 or Apple Avenue folder, Colorado, 8 0 3 Sherbin cudoni owner and registered manager, with a premise business mailing address for a renewal of a fermented malt beverage and wine retail off premise liquor license. and if you are sure to speak on this matter. Please use the raise hand function so I can get you in the right place. See? Sure end here.

[6:17] All right. So we're ready for me to me to read it in. Yeah, I was sorry I was getting Sherman in the room. Mr. Is there anyone else that's going to be appearing with you. No. okay. Are you able to appear on camera? I'm trying to figure that out. I'll ask you to start. Video. Okay. go ahead. Yeah. I'm I'm refusing to myself. Okay. fantastic. so this is a public hearing. before the beverage licensing authority at the City of Order to determine whether or not the application of

[7:04] that Parse gas and Food Incorporated doing business as buffalo gas, the which is located 5,500, a rapid lab in a boulder. Colorado, 8 0 3 for renewal. of a fermented malt beverage and wine retail off premise type flicker license. If if the renewal for that type of license should be granted or denied, this hearing is conducted pursuant to the laws of the State of Colorado, and the rules of the beverage licensing authority of this via Folder. The purpose of this hearing is to receive information, data, and testimony by interested parties. In order to enable this authority to make the findings, and to reach the conclusions required to be made by State law as to whether or not the license should be renewed. Interested parties are the applicant residents of the neighborhood, affected by the license as previously determined by the authority and the owners and managers of a business located within the neighborhood. This hearing shall be limited to the question of whether there is good cause or not to renew this license as set forth in the notice of hearing

[8:09] which was dated. It was dated June. It looks like June eighth, 2,023. A record is being made at these proceedings, those who desire to be heard she'll identify themselves by staying the name, spelling their last name and staying the pertinent address. They shall also be sworn in. But the Board Secretary does do any of the authority members have a conflict of interest or any expertise contacts regarding this item that you wish to disclose. Member Card no member, Robert Snow. number absolute. No. Okay. Are there any interested parties or

[9:00] present, or persons who will act as witnesses for interested parties. to this matter I'm not saying any raised hands same. So are there any members of the general public who wish to supply comment and still no reason. Okay. Great. Then. So Mr. Cordoni, are you ready to proceed? Yes. okay. right. Very well, then you can even proceed. and before we proceed I'll just have you state your name for me. my name is Charlene Cordoni, S. H. E. R. The I. M. Last name is K. R. The O. You, and I thank you. And if you' your actress the address of the business 5 5 0 0.

[10:03] I'm at the whole avenue. Thank you, Alan. I feel. Just raise your right hand for me. Do you saw in links where or from, not the testimony you are about to provide is your correct. and do you swear, or that the premise has been posted for at least 10 days before this hearing. Yes. okay, quick. I'll allow the board to proceed. Okay, so, Mr. Cordenny, do you want to? just state your situation. am I here today. Yeah, I just I'm here to for the renewal of the license. It was a conditional license. and I was granted for one. And I'm here to see if I can get it.

[11:02] Okay? And it looks like Could you just share a little about what you have done over the last year in terms of maintain compliance with the liquor laws. And yeah, so everything that we went over last time it was here. as far as training goes. as far as enforcing. has been in control of that. and we haven't had violations. and it's been smooth sailing. we haven't had any employees, the employees. so we didn't have to. everybody's up to date, but they it's not tips training. It's another company that did it. But everybody is up to up to their training. and we have, we enforce

[12:01] making sure everybody is overturning the the ideas about. And everybody does that we haven't had any any issues. Great thanks for sharing that. And I do see you have. And here some training information as well as some. I saw some tips, tips, certificates. Do any members of the authority have any other questions? Yeah, Mr. Cordoni, I was just wondering. It looks like you have 3 employees listed here on the cover sheet sent from licensing that are going to be handling alcohol sales. I only see 2 certificates here. not missing anything. I thought I uploaded it. There should be myself. And hey, Sue, Sarah and Brian dates. I'm just not seeing Brian's on my copy of the packet. Am I missing something?

[13:01] I can send that over, you know, his certificate. For some reason I didn't have the email with the certificate in it. Image of it, and I uploaded that. So maybe it didn't go to because of it. But I can. I more than half to to send it. It was done on the same day as anybody else. Okay. And the other thing I was looking at is your policy here. did you write this alcohol policy? The attorney did last year at the time you put it together last year. Okay, cool. Have you heard of the rar here in town the Response Association of Retailers. Not so, unfortunately, Nathan, do we who represents that group is not present today, but normally it is present for all of our hearings. I urge you to look into that group. They will help you as a license. Seeds are a responsible association of retailers. meet monthly discuss response to alcohol policies. Also group to kind of help you tighten up this policy you have here that I'm reading through.

[14:10] It's a it's an organization that's gonna help you in a lot of ways to make sure that you are compliant with local and state laws around responsible alcohol service. I will look into that. Thank you. that's all I have. All right. Thank you. By the then, what? I guess we will close. Is there anything else you had to share with us, Mr. Cordney? No. okay. so that I guess we will close for deliberation. Are there any concerns with this members of the Board, or sell me to make a motion to approve? Actually, can we even approve without having that third tips change certificate on file.

[15:10] I think we can approve. As long as Mr. Cartoon. He does plan on getting that over to licensing, and we can confirm that unless there's something that anyone in licensing or city, our Council has anything to say about that. But I don't believe there's anything in our rules, or I'm not approving license without that last certificate. I think you guys can approve this certificate. You can make it a condition if you like to for the renewal. just saying that the renewal is effective as long as you know, the certificate is submitted in a tly manner or something like that. But yeah, there's nothing preventing you from going ahead. Perfect. Well, with that I would make a motion to approve this renewal under the condition that we receive that third, a certificate of training within. I would say a week.

[16:05] and for car will second that motion all in favor. Member car I, Member Roberts, I number Epsilon. I alright so moved. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Give me a second while I put everyone that's supposed to be okay.

[17:01] Next, we have agenda, item 6, which is public hearing a consideration of an application filed on April fourth, 2,023 from A. Bmg. Llc. Dva. The Academy, Mapleton Hill, 2, 4, 3, 5, Fourth Street Boulder, Colorado, 80302 Gary Burg soul number and registered manager with the business mailing address of 175. So you drive older. Colorado 8 to 3 0 2 for a new hotel restaurant type liquor license, and if you're here to speak on this counter, go ahead and raise your hand. Afternoon. Good afternoon.

[18:01] and Mr. Burke, will. It looks like you have out of this is here. And then. Mr. Are you representing? Yeah, no problem. Okay? So Mr. Mcmill, I as the attorney, would you like to be willing to wave the the reading. We'll make it easy from there. Yeah. very cool. Could you just state your attorney name for the my name is Austin Gimmel. Registration number 5 to 7, 5, 3 on behalf of 8 bmp. Thank you. And then Who will be speaking for this Mr. Berg is sole member of the entity, and then Aaron Mccalla for Oedipus, petitioning.

[19:00] All right, I'll get you guys starting in here. Mr. Burke, you can state your name and spill your name and give us your address for the record. Yes, Garyberg, G. A. R. Y. B. E. R. G. 175 W. Drive boulder, Colorado. Thank you. I'm in. I'll have you raise your right handles where you in. do you? Where or not the testimony you are about to provide is true and correct. I do. And do you swear or firm, that the premise has been posted for at least 10 days for actually hearing. I do. Great. and then I'll have our out of this representative. Next I feel, say your name install your name for the record. Aaron Mccullough, E. R. I. N last name Mcc. U. L. L. O. U. G. H. Thank you. And if you can give an address for me. 1, 7, 3, 3, 4, East Twinberry Street, Parker, Colorado, 8, 8, 0, 1, 3, 4.

[20:05] Thank you. And then I feel, just raise your hand. Here's where or from that. The testimony you're about to provide is to incorrect. I do. I'll let the okay. And I should ask if any board members have any conflicts of interest or export. Take on conflicts they like. Disclose member car. Now. Member Roberts, now number absolute. No. okay. Very good. Mr. Camel, you can proceed. Thanks so much. I'm gonna start with Miss Mccallow from Oedipus petitioning so she can give her a quick overview of the results, and she can be on her way. Aaron. I won't ask any questions. If you could. Just please go through the overview petition methodology and the results you obtain for the board that'd be super helpful.

[21:01] Sure. Edip, his petitioning was engaged to perform a petition survey of the designated area to determine the needs and desires for the application of a Bmg. Llc. Doing business as the Academy, Mapleton Hill payment for our services was received up front, and the Academy. Mapleton Hill was important that we cannot guarantee results. The designated area consisted of the businesses along Pearl Street as well as the residential area. basically to the east of the location, both north and south of the accessible business and residential dwellings are right. A wide of ranging sample of the designated area was surveyed for this petition over 2 days of or 3 days of surveying on June fifth, eighth, and eleventh as far as the results. Business owners, managers, and residents were informed that the Academy, Mapleton Hill was applying for a hotel and restaurant liquor license. They were asked if they were over the age of 21, and if they would be willing to provide their opinion on the licenses, issuance as fully detailed on the petition forms

[22:08] out of the 341 potential context that we that were surveyed. 171 of the businesses and residences. We're not available or not at home or business manager is not available. We were able to make contact with 170 people of that number 26 preferred not to participate. 4 were neutral to the outcome, and 5 were not qualified to sign of the remaining participants. Participants. 132 signatures were in favor of issuance of the license, which included 56 businesses and 76 residences. and 3 were against issuance. 2 of which were against the development of the retirement community just in general, and one

[23:02] of the people who is against it. She stated that it wasn't needed or seemed dangerous. 0 signatures were deleted, and over all, the general feedback we received was extremely positive, as residents and businesses are excited for this new opportunity. 97.70 of those who participated were in favor of issuance. Great thanks, so much, Aaron. I don't have any further questions for you. The Board may have a few questions, but otherwise, thanks for the results. Yeah, absolutely. Does anyone on the board have any questions? I do not. Okay, good. Thank you. Yeah. Aaron, feel free. You can hang out if you want Watch some boring testimony. No problem otherwise. you're free to leave and go about your day. Awesome. Thank you

[24:02] great. My next witness will be Mr. Berg. All right, Gary, thanks for joining us today. already spelled your name, stated it for the record. You could just go ahead and give your position on behalf of the license. You will start with that. Sure. I've been associated with the Academy for over 30 years a co-founder. we are in upscale retirement community. we're building a new one in Mapleton at fourth of Mapleton. And it will consist of 91 independent residences, 40 skilled nursing suites, and 10 memory care suites. The independent living residents years ago found it very beneficial for us to get a liquor license at our original location near Chicago Park. And so we've had that for quite a number of years now. and we plan to do the same thing hopefully at Mapleton Hill.

[25:05] in terms of scope. I think it's probably quite a bit different than most of the situations you encounter in that the liquor sales your wine spirits. really represents a very. very small percentage of our toll revenues. It's a small portion of what we do. We run a restaurant. We provide health care. We? I have activities. We have a gym, we have a pool. We have so many different aspects to try to keep elders lives as vibrant as possible. And this is a small part of it, but one that they appreciate. And so having known a number of people in the restaurant world. I know. Sometimes you look at percentage of alcohol sales compared to food. Well, percentage of alcohol sales projected here. Compared to our overall revenue, small of our operations would be under 1% of of total revenue. So it's a small part. But an important part.

[26:11] Great thanks. So much for that little bit of detailed background. So I'm gonna just jump right into kind of jump around a little bit based on your testimony. It sounds like you. You also have another retirement facility with the liquor, license and boulder. Currently, right? That's correct. Okay? And how many years? And oh, sorry you're also on that liquor license as well. Is that correct? That's also another hotel and restaurant like your license. How many years. Would you approximate that you've had that other liquor license? I probably I guess I'd say about 15 years. Okay, have you ever ever had any sort of liquor violation during those 15 years. Okay? And so when do you envision this new retirement? Facility? Mapleton Hill? being open.

[27:00] we hope to be open second half of August of this year. Okay, so right now, you're still in construction phase. Yes. Okay. you've already kind of given us a little bit of the the concept. But our understanding is you're only licensing. I guess the recreational side of the the retirement facility. Is that correct? Yes, we're acutely aware of the all or nothing aspect of licensing particular spaces, and we know our residents are gonna want to have their own beer or wine in their residence. And so we're really trying to license the common areas where they would want us to be able to serve them. recognizing that that's an area where they're not allowed to ring their own alcohol. So we chose that those areas very carefully great. And could you just kind of give us an overview you already started to by saying a restaurant. But can you give us an idea of the other services that this licensed area will be offering to residents and their guests.

[28:03] Well, we have a what we call the grand hall, which is the one large room, and the the eastern side of the Mapleton Building, and you can think of that as a as a ballroom in a hotel. we have a lot of concerts there we have a great relationship with the College of Music at the University of Colorado. we've hosted their gala, for example, every year as a give back to the community. And so we serve wine and and spirits at that gala. We typically host this one nonprofit per year again and give back to the community where we don't charge them. We just as they get their donors to come for a female and 3, 3, one and beer, etc. again as a give back to the community. There's so many good charities, and yet we rotate that gifts, if you will so that we can try to reach out to as many as possible. And so that room is a great example of multi-purpose. We'll have a bigger events, for everyone wants to dine together like New Year's Eve for our residents. and muly State branch etc. We've got separate dining rooms, the dynamic. The main dining room area is divided into

[29:21] 6 or 7 smaller dining rooms, so it doesn't feel institutional and that's where most of the meal services would occur. But in that ground hall that's an area where, we would have special events. And so we wanted to license that, for example. great. And you also have a theater and game room, too. Is that correct? That's correct. So we'll use that theater and game room the theater in particular, certainly for movies But also, if we have a concert or a speaker where we're expecting the audience to be in the range of 25 to 35 people. The grand call is just too big and it would feel overwhelming for a smaller group. And so we'll use the movie, Peter, for that sort of thing.

[30:13] What? What hours are you envisioning for the dining room? And second question on that? When will the bar be open during that time. so the the bar will serve as a station in the morning. we serve 3 meals a day. and I suppose over the years. There's been a few people that would have an alcohol coverage at lunch time sometimes, but it's pretty rare. Nothing at breakfast, although we do have a champagne brunch on Sunday. So if you count that as breakfast, it's like from 11 to one. But to your question of hours we're going to work with the residents. They're moving in to find out what they want those hours to be. But I'll tell you what they are at University Hill, and I expect them to be similar. University. Old breakfast is from 7 until 10. Lunch is from 120'clock until 1 30, and dinner is from 50'clock

[31:06] with the last seating at 7 The group moving into Mapleton is younger. I would anticipate that that 5 to 7 would probably be 5 to 7, 30, or perhaps 50'clock to 80'clock. The bar is open during those that full dinner hour or those dinner hours, I guess I should say, yeah, it does perfect. No, that's great. I appreciate that. And with that being said, since this is a bigger space, obviously like you said multi purpose. How many employees do you envision staffing in this in this type of space? It's a pretty high staff ratio. In the dinner space. We would have few her at breakfast, probably 4 probably half dozen, which is 10 at lunch, and anywhere from 10 to 20 in the evening, depending upon which day of the week and what we were anticipating in terms of number of patrons.

[32:12] Okay, so 10 to 20 in the dining facilities. But what about the other facilities as well in terms of the liquor licensed area? How many employees do you envision on having around those areas? So we're in the grand hall. Those are bigger events that require even more people. So we would. I have 10 to 20 in that event, unless it was a smaller situation going on. But if there is alcohol being served, there is typically more people. Okay, and are those employees? Typically, are they full service in terms of, you know. Sit down, meals, wait, or waitress taking your orders. Is that what you're envisioning? Yeah, it's holocaust. So people can have as many courses as they want, and it is order off the menu custom made, etc. Okay. And what type of training are you envisioning on doing for your employees who will be handling, serving, even monitoring alcohol consumption.

[33:11] But we tips train everybody at university and we'll do the same thing. I mean. okay? And with that being said. do you also have your own stated policies for employee training? You know such? I know also the health, care aspect, but in terms of just monitoring alcohol consumption and the premises. Do you envision on having a training with each of those policies as well? yes, for sure. And then an added element that can make things a little bit complicated. We we have full time nurses on staff. And we just have to pay careful attention to specific individual medical situations where you might have someone on a medication either temporarily or permanently. That's kind of your indication.

[34:00] Highly. Attend to that which kind of goes beyond what a normal perhaps restaurant would would encounter. Great. And just to kind of hit this point home before you opened you envision, having all the staff serve safe or tips trained before any sort of alcohol service starts. Correct. Okay. that being said, since this is such a large space to how will these employees, I guess? Monitor alcohol consumption in the business, for instance. if residents or guests are taking alcoholic drinks to the game room or taking alcoholic drinks to the theater, or they're trying to walk out of the recreational facility with alcoholic drinks. How is your staff going to manage that sort of flow through this recreational area. Well, that type of flow will be fairly unusual, and we are. Our service standards are such that I think our team would say, Can I take that for you? you know we have folks. You know the age you start to run into mobility issues and that sort of thing. The last thing we want is for them to be walking around with a with a glass in their hand. And also

[35:11] we have to say that there are certain areas that are not licensed, and we need to monitor where that drinking is going to make sure that we stay within the confines of the law. Great? And will you have at least front, desk, staff, or other types of staff at like major entry or exit ways to ensure that people aren't walking in with the alcohol or walking out with alcohol. Yeah, there's only one unlocked, or that dory staff 20 four-seven and it's locked temporarily. For example, we're not having a security garden. If he or she needs to use the restaurant, they'll lock the door and use the rest of them then come back. And so that's the only unlocked or and and they know to watch for systems right? And all your patios are fenced as well. Correct. Okay. see if I have anything else for you.

[36:03] And given that residents can bring guests in. If, for instance, you had one individual come up to the bar and try to order multiple drinks for, you know, a bunch of guests or residents. How would your staff kind of handle that situation. Well, it's easier than you might think, because we have repeat customers every night, and so we anticipate having about 150 residents. It sounds like a lot, but when they are the only customers, for the most part it's very easy to tell who is a newcomer, whether it's a grandchild, or a child, or a a brother, or whatever The other thing that's very cool is that our residents know all of our staff members, and they in essence. I I like to joke that in the dining room every new dining room employee inherits 150 new grandparents, and the relationship is rich enough that The last thing any of our residents want to do is get one of these grandchildren up there in trouble, and so it's very easy to say I can lose my job.

[37:11] We can lose our liquor, license, etc. and the peer pressure is such that I mean. We just were fortunately a very amazing group of residents who. you know, they understand a lot. They behave in a simple fashion. We don't have any to the parties, or at least we haven't had any yet. Great, and my last question for you is just in general, you kind of already hit on this. But why? Why did you pick, or why did your group pick this location for its next retirement? Facility? Well, it's a magical spot, you know, that Mapleton Hill historic neighborhood as your neighbors to the south and the east, and to have send you this, or, again, lecture that you have no gravitas. If you don't say Simitas, but whether it's sanitas or so need as as your neighbor to the west is pretty special, and so it's it's it's a really great spot, and

[38:04] you know, too many times I think all of our communities are located on the outskirts of town, where land is cheap, and this is a unique opportunity to create a really special community. Great. Thank you so much, Mr. Berg. I don't have any further questions for you. The board members may have a few. But thanks again for your thorough explanations. of course. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Berger. Thank you. Mr. do any board members have any questions, Mr. Burke. I just had one around training, and I think you may have answered this only because you are still in the process of hiring up and setting up your staff. That's why we haven't seen any training yet. and I guess my other question around that is it? It seems slightly ambiguous about. So just round about how many people are going to be selling or handling our call sales overall whole number of employees as opposed to the number of employees on a given night. total number of employees will probably number around 20.

[39:03] Yeah. So we'll just look forward to seeing that that proof of training. Once we get those people lined up. your now call policy is fantastic. I'm just right through that in the supplement, in the sense of me. And yeah, I didn't see any drinks on the menu. But I'm just the way that you present this today. I'm assuming that you you guys aren't doing Long Island. I's T's, or pictures of drinks, or anything like that. Correct, perfect? I had no other questions. all right. any any other questions from the Board, and having them myself. Mr. To most of burgery last comments or anything you'd like to say. I believe so I think we wrapped it all up. We could go for hours, though. Trust us all right. Well, then, I will open up for to to the board, to the authority to make a motion to approve.

[40:03] And then what wants to do that? Yeah, I just I wanted to say that I thought that testament is great and just reading that alcohol policy really good stuff and really appreciate it for taking care of our community this way. So I would make a motion to approve this new hotel restaurant type license. I second that perfect. All in favor number car I I'm a Robert. I number Absalom. I all right. So moved. Thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Okay. all right. next, we have agenda. Item 7, which is public hearing and consideration of an application filed on April sixth, 2,023, from market and wine of Upc, its Eva market and 1 3, 3 0 3 Bluff Street, Broadway

[41:13] boulder going on out 802 it can't be a hundred percent owner with the business mailing. Address of 3, 8, 1, 2, mark for drive. Boulder, Colorado, 80304, or a new retail store liquor type like excuse me, and then, if you are here to speak on this matter, please. All right. 1 s I gave everyone where they're supposed to. Okay.

[42:04] And it looks like Mckenzie is here. and because you are you represented today? Yes, I am okay. I was your telling, or are you representing Kenya? Yes, Gil Selener for the applicant. license number 4, 0 1, 5, 0. Thank you. And but that's my. It's like we have, Carol Johnson, and both of you will be giving testimony. Is that right. Carol? Are you able to hear us? They're perfect.

[43:00] Hello! I can mute you for 1 s. So there's not a okay, maybe give it a second to. Okay, I'm gonna on Youtube really quick. And let's see if that works. Okay, I an echo I'm not sure are any of you in the same room together, because my second to happen okay? Or if she has headphones plugged in and trying to use a speaker.

[44:01] That's true also. Okay, well, that's all. I'll get Mackenzie's one in here, and then we'll see if we can. But if you'll say your name and spell your name and the given address for me. Mackenzie Turjan, M. A, C k, E, n, Z. I, e. Last name t E. R. Z. I. A N. And the address of the location is 3303 Bluff Street suite, R. S. 280302 older. Thank you, and then I feel just raise your right hand for me. Do some, at least where or from that. The testimony about that is true. Correct. hey, too. and you where we from that the premise has been posted for at least 10 days prior to today's here

[45:01] I do. And, Miss Julie, let's go ahead and have you on you and see if it works here. That's okay. I'm just gonna mute you. So it gives anyone as I want it. I say, Mr. Ms. Johnson, could you perhaps dial in via your cell phone and you turn off the computer audio? That might be a good option. I do you want me to? dial in via a phone audio. your phone number let's see again. get that over to you. yes, the the phone number to that microphone audio would have been provided in the email that I said earlier, that has, like the meeting access information in it.

[46:17] Obviously, it's out of order. But should you wish for us to proceed with the questions of the applicant, and then get to the the petitioning at the tail end, I know it's not how we would normally do things, but happy to do that to make sure that we stay on your your timeline. I mean, I'm I'm okay with that. It's the the board is okay. before we move forward with this. Mr. Soinger, are you? Since? Are you willing to wait the reading of the into the record. Okay? And before we proceed, let me just ask the members of the authority if they have any complex interest or exparte communications number car no

[47:07] member. Roberts. Now. Number absolute. No. Okay. then, Mr. Soldier, you can then proceed. Thank you. it's a pleasure to be with you all this afternoon. Just jumping down a little bit here, Mackenzie, W. We're gonna dive in a little bit about you. Are you tips certified? I am both off and on premise. Great And we provided that certificate to the authority. I do not believe it's included in the up the packet. But I I believe Ms. Kellogg said that that was correct. There. Can you describe the premises for us? The space of the location. Yes, please. And I for the authority that's on page thirty- of the Pdf. So the main entrance is off of Bluff Street. When you walk in there will be a checkout counter directly to your right. That will

[48:04] have our pos system behind that we'll have shelving that has some liquor spirits. to the left of the checkout station we'll have a few islands that will hold wine, non alcoholic beverages, prepackaged snacks, thunderings. Those will also be located along shelving along the windows, and then on the back wall. We'll have refrigeration with chilled wine, beer, and a beverages and chilled snap. Great! Thank you. And what are the proposed operating hours for the business? it would be 70 a week 11 Am. To 8 pm. And we're applying your plan for a retail liquor license, so there won't be open beverages or any service of alcohol on the premises that correct? Can you tell us what the number of employees you will have other than yourself?

[49:04] other than myself will have 2, so 3 in total, all of whom will be off premise to certify. Have you hired those individuals yet? we have candidates great, I mean. So you you said that you'll do tip certification, but obviously so that we can catch the authority up. Can you just tell us about the the status of the build and the the premises right now, and and the whole development that's going on over there at Blust Street. Yeah. So it's a new development. Once we get certified we'll begin the full. Build out of the space. But there is a tech building there. I'll spark. There are several apartments. small family apartments, individual apartments. as well as a lot of unoccupied retail space. So we would be presumably the first retail location to go into the spark development.

[50:09] and it's my understanding that there are. There are at least 500 units available for rent being built for residential occupation in the immediate in the immediate surrounding of the premises. Is that correct? Correct? So it's already built, and most of them are already leased out or purchased. and when when you and I took a look at the the data provided by the authority and by liquor pros about other liquor licenses in the area. Everything was in excess of, you know, over point 7 miles away from the premises. There's no other liquor up liquor stores that you know about that are right there in this new development area. And so for the needs and wants and desires of these new residents and this new and this new development in Boulder. It would. It would be a a a good place for them to be able to walk to and not have to drive to to purchase alcohol

[51:06] correct. And there's a lot of housing developments over there, a lot of communities in that East boulder area that don't have a bottle shop or a wine shop post by so on that note. Can you tell us a little bit about your planned inventory, and how you might be, you know, different than you know, a large liquor store that might be around in Boulder. Yeah. So we would have a big focus on kind of meeting affordability and high quality. we'd carry a large selection of wine, and then a slightly smaller selection of beer, non alcoholic beverages, spirits. packaged foods, Sundays things like that. as far as what makes us different than some of the other higher

[52:01] quantity liquor stores is, we'd really focus a lot on quality and kind of showcasing unique, smaller brand lines. as well as spirits and goods. and like, I said, we are one of the most for this east bottle shops off of Valmont. So we'd really have a lot of focus for the noble park, San Jose, Central and Spark neighborhood, all of whom would be able to ride bikes or walk to us rather than A slightly further transport. you. You've mentioned a bunch of of reasons for the community, and and especially these developments in Boulder. And why you want to open this liquor store there. Are you aware of a an organization in the city of Boulder, called the Responsible Associations of Retailers? I am, and We would plan on joining that to make sure that we're up to date with all laws and regulations that are changing

[53:06] within boulder and within Colorado. And you'll do that at. You know what once you once you've opened and you and you're working through all this approved But prior to that, can you do have a written alcohol policy that you provided with your application. We do. Yeah. And that would be, also made available to all of our employees as well as kept behind our checkout counter for people to reference if needed. and so talking about check out If somebody anybody comes up to purchase alcohol at at the front, which is, you know, pointing out that there are other Sundays available at the store, and it's possible somebody could complete transaction that is, without alcohol. But if somebody is coming up and purchasing alcohol, can you talk about the the procedure for the transaction? Yeah. So we'll be using a pos system called clover, which does have an integrated scanner in it.

[54:00] so we'd be able to check id manually. name photo, birthday expiration date as well as scan the id to make sure that it is a legitimate id and if that system was down we would go through the manual process, and we have an id guide behind the counter as well. The employees would be able to reference to make sure that the Id lines up with the way that that states Id should look. That's great. And and I, and knowing that there happens to be this very large campus of of undergrads, that from a lot of different states. And so your your employees might be seeing a lot of different Ids coming through. Tell me what would happen if the if the system was down and you were gonna do a transaction, and the scanner wasn't working. how would your your tips certified Employee? proceed with verification of age. so we'd manually check the Id. We'd make sure that The name

[55:03] was on there. The photo match, the purchaser. The birthday was on there showing that they're over the age of 21, and that the expiration date was not passed. And are you aware, with specifically, with regards to Colorado ids that there are 2 different orientations of those ids. we, if if you're in reference to vertical, we do not accept any vertical id of any type. And do you intend to have a a a posting of that? In addition to regarding the Colorado vertical ids. Great! I think that So the the one other thing we did one with I would just want to specifically address. And you mentioned the large form liquor stores. And I I wanted to point out to the authority that really the closest liquor store to this is whole foods, and the reason that we wanted to con contrast. This business is because this is as far from the whole Foods liquor store as you could possibly get in terms of of the the sort of

[56:15] depth and breadth of of what Ms surgeon is proposing, and I can go through the other retail liver stores in in the neighborhood. Should there be locate? Or should there be questions? But All of them are, as as previously mentioned, a a a larger radius away. I think we could maybe see whether or not Ms. Johnson's it able to participate at this point. I'm just well, see if it's okay. Could you unmute the cell phone Caitlin.

[57:01] Yeah, I've left my cell phone and I'm asking you to unmute. So Miss Johnson, if you unmute on your phone. I think you can push, start the okay, I have another idea, and then you'll just give me an affirmative. Not if this is true. I see this. You're also in the waiting room as an attendee, so I think you might be on the meeting twice, which could be the issue if I kick you off the meeting, though you that one that I would kick off won't be able to come back on. Would it be okay if I kicked your other account off?

[58:06] Or maybe let's so, Carol, could you leave and try to leave and then rejoin? Maybe that'll fix the problem. I promoted the other Carol Johnson. That's in the waiting room to panelists. Let's see if that works and nothing's happening there. I'll ask finish off into a mute on her cell phone one more time. There's a comment in the questions from a a later applicant that says there's somebody else from liquor pros and attendance that maybe

[59:00] you could let in. Sylvia is also from the same petitioning company. I'm not sure if that would solve it. Get around it that way. I'm not saying I raised hands there. And it's drop the charge your camera on. So if we can get her back on camera, so I can maybe get some affirmative. Okay, there we go. Okay. And if you can just not yes or no for me. If it's Johnson, are you able to unmute on your cell phone?

[60:22] And I it? That's that's even worse. Okay. Could you leave the meeting completely and then try to rejoin Miss Charleston. because your your camera is often out. But if you just leave the whole meeting that might fix the problem. What did you want me to do now? But you just exit the meeting if you just leave the Zoom Meeting and then rejoin. And just as soon as you as you leave.

[61:04] okay, that one is going and that okay. see if this works. And then okay, my job is to try it on mute. Now. Okay. that work. Yeah. Okay. Great. Yeah. I don't know what it was. I didn't do anything I could say. I just had 2 hearings in 4 Cohen's and I was fine on. I didn't even move. So okay, Miss Johnson, thanks for joining us today. sorry to be a problem. No problem at all us. We're going to jump back to what was planned to be the the beginning of the application and testimony. if you would go ahead and describe the methodology and area in which you conducted petitioning for this application, and a summary of your findings. and I can see if there's any questions that I have or that the authority has. Okay, I'll try to make it as free 5. We've been here a lot of times, but I'll try to go through it.

[62:20] We are a neutral petition and company, and we do give you just one technique, John, so I'm so sorry I'm going to swear you in before you get to. Oh, okay. if you'll just say your name and spell your name for me. Carol Johnson, C. A. R. O. L. J. N. S. O. N. Great, and then, if you'll give an address. 55, 15 Saddle Rock Place, Colorado springs. Thank you and do so, and these are for a firm that the testimony about to provide is true and correct. Yes, I do. for the so I'll renew my question, Ms. Johnson. If you can just summarize methodology and find meetings with additional things. Okay? Well, like we are neutral Petitioning company, and we do not guarantee the results. We try to start the closest to the area and radiate out in this plate. In this case, if you look at the map that was provided by Boulder. We did residential areas. scattered around Both east and west side of the

[63:15] of 28 businesses were primarily on the around the location. we made 74 attempts at businesses for 300 380 attempts at residents for 454 attempts. from that there were 275 that we had no response from. We had collected 120 total signatures. There were 29 in support, and 2 in opposition from the businesses, and 83 in support, and 6 in opposition for the businesses, so 112 in support, and 8 in opposition. The reasons for the opposition for stated no reasons. 3. If you look at the notes, it says, wrote down reason, and how, and one person wrote down too much alcohol, and the next 2 people below them just said same and same.

[64:07] So we did count them as opposition, even though they didn't personally write out what they said. And the other one was not my backyard. So there was 34 who declined to participate. 18 were too busy. 8 do not sign any petitions or surveys, and 8 were not interested. 24 were not qualified to sign. 10 of those were businesses that did not have an owner or manager available. 7 were under 21, for did not so read or speak English well enough to participate. and 3 were non-residents. If you you have the choice of not considering the one not in my backyard as being an invalid or relevant to the needs and desires, and that would bring the numbers to 112, and support for 94, and 7 in opposition for 6, and I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have

[65:07] based on those numbers. And your extensive experience sounds like you were just doing 2 other hearings earlier today, and we know somebody else from liquor pros will be on momentarily to for the the next agenda item. Oh, that's that's me, too. Oh, okay, great? Well, well, at least we got all the tech problems ironed out. I'm sorry. And so those numbers in your experience are are good and favorable in terms of the issuance of the of the license and the needs and wants of the community. Yes, there there are, because really there were only one that wrote a reason in opposition. and they said there were too many, and the other, you know, most of them did not even give a reason, so, considering that no one was real vocal in opposition with a strong reason, it definitely shows there's a need and desire in the neighborhood for this license. Great. I don't have any further questions for Ms. Johnson to the authority. If you do.

[66:06] all right, thank you. Everyone. I'll open up to members of the authority. If they have any questions for either Ms. Johnson or Ms. I don't have any other questions other than Miss Johnson or yours. Okay. pardon all my years. Yeah. And my dogs left through the whole thing. I was trying to figure out what grocery stores or something nearby that would also be complementing the neighborhood and the needs and desires

[67:02] female Lebanese. Mckenzie. That's a question for you. To my knowledge, there's really not that much that close in that area. I believe the closest to it. The closest market are really the whole Foods market off of Pearl Street and things on 20 Ninth Street, Mall. Not that that has liquor or wine there. but there's really not a lot in that immediate facility area. And did you say you are going to be carrying some items like small grocery items and food. Yeah. So along with the bottle shop, we'll also be carrying small sundries and goods, so things that you'd find at a general store for the community around to be able to purchase small things, grocery items, packaged food.

[68:09] that's all. Thank you. And I had one question for for Mr. Do you plan on doing any sort of tasting there? Wine, tasting, or anything of that nature? I believe down the line we would do wine tastings, but that wouldn't be a primarily a primary part of the business model. I think I'd have to consult a little bit further. with our attorney to just see what those regulations would be and how they fall into place. Yeah. And and the and the reason I'm asking is because I I noticed in your local policy it was pretty lightweight at this this point. and I know you haven't even opened the business yet. but Just urging you to join the responsible association of retailers which you did talk about in your testimony. and just to to be up that policy, especially if there's going to be any sort of tastings or any anything of that nature.

[69:14] Absolutely. Thank you any further questions. all right, seeing nothing else from the the authority. Mr. Soinger, any closing remarks? I not none. Thank you for your time. Member car. I'm sorry to interrupt. But did we check if there was any public comment for this application? actually, I don't believe we did. So. Let's let's ask quickly. Yes. Is there any public comment for this application? I don't see any reason you did, why any members of the local community?

[70:00] No, okay. thanks, Christina. Christina. all right. And so then we will open this up for deliberation. same on the authority. Wanna talk through this, or make a motion to your point. I I used to live sort of in that neighborhood, I the I think the the closest like in that area was like a 7 11 down the street. So there's really not much over there. That's probably a nice addition to the neighborhood. Yeah, I was glad to hear there will be some food there as well, because you always want snacks. Yeah, when you're having drinks. Exactly. Yeah. I I thought I thought I thought what you talked about was really important, and thank you for bringing up that point. and I think it to also to member cars. I did. That whole neighborhood, I think, is kind of looking for a little bit of something like that and based on mystery and testimony. I'm feeling that this could be a responsible vendor for that neighborhood.

[71:10] Absolutely with that. yeah, go ahead. I I'll make a motion to approve this this license. I'll second that motion. Okay, all in favor. Member, Carr, I member Roberts. Aye. number Absalom, I all right. So moved. Thank you. Very well for your time. Thanks for your time to look. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Ms. Johnson. If you're in a Testament, you can just stay here. Yeah, I'm half Alison Rose, which I believe is next. And so if we got it working we won't touch anything. Next is agenda. Item, 8. Public sharing and consideration of an application filed on April sixteenth, a 23

[72:04] from the Mad hunter of C. Dva Allen Rose Matt Hacker on the hill. 1 3 0 one Pennsylvania Avenue, folder, Colorado, 8 0 3, 0 2. Holly Ellis, member, and who post registered manager and Scott. Alice number with a business mailing address of 3, 5, 3, 5, fourth, straight, older caller on out 8, 0 3 0 4 for a new hotel restaurant type, liquor license. Please raise your hand if you're planning on testifying for this one. and while I get everyone in here. I do want to let the Board know that, and even do we is in the attendees list. So if you want to talk to him. or if he has anything to say, Nathan, you can just go ahead and raise your hand at some point. Good afternoon. My name is Charlotte Taylor. I am council for the Mad hatter, I'll I'll see. Next to me is Holly Ellis, who will be testifying to the day, and also Miss Johnson is here from Linda Rose.

[73:10] you and the record. My registration number is 5, 8, 1, 1, 3. It's it's it's not even we're next. So I will scare anyone else who is planning. On giving testimony for this. However, I'd like to go first. Give your first name, last name, and give and sell it for me. and then give me an address, not Holly Ellis. H. O l l e y. And last name Ls E. L. L. I s thank you for the business or the mailing. whatever you prefer. The business address is 1301 Pennsylvania Avenue, boulder, Colorado, 8, 0 3 0 2. If you and do solemnly swear, or from that, the testimony you're from to provide is true and correct.

[74:04] Yes, and you's where, or a firm that the premise has been posted for at least 10 days prior to today's here. Yes. okay. And it's anyone else being on touch fine today. Just Ms. Johnson and Miss Alice the other person on the screen is Mike Davidson. He's also counsel for the Matt matter. They're good. I'll allow the words to proceed. Thank you, Caitlin counsel, would you be willing to wave the reading of the hearing procedures? Yes, thank you. Okay, thank you. and Before we proceed, I want to ask the members of the Board if they have any conflict of interest or any export to contact. member car. No member, Roberts. Now number. Absalom. No. okay. And then, before I proceed, I just want to ask if there's anyone here who is an interested party

[75:03] who would like to, you know, present evidence from the public or the general public with which to supply comment at that time. Okay, I'm not seeing any hands raised. So then with that we will hand it over to to capital, because you please restate any. I'm sorry I didn't catch it. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think we would like to start a presentation by turning it over to Ms. Johnson. Just so she can give it a brief presentation of her petitioning, and the methods in the findings of that position. Thank you. is this. we are a neutral petition and company. We do not guarantee our results. we try to start the closest to the area for residents and businesses. In this case we did go a little further out. be due to the fact that there are quite a few student housing and student sororities and fraternities. immediately, just north and west of the location, and we do not really do much petition in those areas, because we realize that a lot of the people are under 21. And so we try to get to the more adult permanent residents of the neighborhood, which sometimes in this particular area are a little further out.

[76:24] we made 55 attempts at businesses and 300 residents for a total of 355, and 198 of those had no response. This petition the residents were done on Tuesday, May thirtieth, and the businesses were done on Thursday, June first of the circulator had the face sheet with all of the written and information. The signature pages provided by the city, and also tally sheets to keep track of the results. At each address that they stopped at there were a total of 116 signatures, 115 in support and one in opposition. There were 30 businesses, all in favor, and the residents had 85 in support and one in opposition.

[77:10] the one in support of it's kind of. I occasionally get a few little strange comments, but they wrote down that it sounded like too much fun. That's why they were opposed to it. And the rest the from what The client had provided our company it it sounds like it's going to be a a lot of fun, but not the wrong kind of fun. There were 12 who declined to participate, so 5 do not sign petitions or surveys. 3 not interested, 3 too busy and one business. It was against their company policy. There were 26 who were not qualified. 12 of those were owners and managers that were not available. 11 were under 21 and 2 are non-residents. So if we take into reasoning that the one opposition was that can be considered as impacted or very valid to the needs of desires, in which case this would come out as a petition of 115 as a 100% in support of the license. Once again I would answer any questions you might have.

[78:15] Thank you very much much. Ms. Johnson. I just have one follow up question based on your petitioning. Do you think there's a needed desire in the neighborhood for this restaurant? I think 100% in support of the petitions kind of definitely supports the fact that they. our a needed entity in the neighborhood. Thank you, Mr. Johnson, I will defer to the board to see if they have any other questions for Ms. Johnson. Okay, seeing non, seeing some shaking heads, I'm gonna switch gears and start questioning Holly Ella. She is a co-owner of the Matt howler, had her Llc. I first just want to start off with the restaurant overview of Alice and Rose. So today you are plan for a new hotel restaurant like your license. Correct?

[79:07] What is the address of the restaurant. It's 1,301 Pennsylvania Avenue boulder, Colorado, 8 0 3, 0 2. And would you mind explaining the overall atmosphere of the restaurant just to give the board an idea of how it feels when you walk in. Yeah, sure. it's a little bit more upscale than what the hill has typically had we base the design off of like a old London bakery meets like a Brooklyn bond cafe, and so you'll be pretty shocked and excited when you walk in hopefully. we are trying to target more of the community. And so we're sitting on the corner where you cross over right toward the university, and we're in that complete flow of tourist traffic as well. That passes by our building. And then, we're going to be doing like community dinners and stuff like that. We want to be nestled in there for a long time.

[80:04] Awesome. Thank you. And as Allison rose currently open today, it's not open. We're anticipating opening. the latter part of August. Okay? And what hours and days will the restaurant be open? Once it's open. We're going to be open 7 days a week from 7 to 10. Okay? And what kind of food will the restaurants are? it's a a typical restaurant with breakfast, lunch, and dinner, but also high tea in the middle, and so breakfast will be known for pastries and coffee, and like peaches, and that casserole lunch is more salads, flatbreads, and then high t as your typical tier tray of like pastries and stones sandwiches. and then dinner is flat, red and like pastas, shrunk things like that. Okay? And will the restaurant staff prepare the meals on site? Yes, everything's okay. Okay. And do you have a food service license for the restaurant, I and then progress myself for my serve save but my chef does have it already.

[81:07] Okay? And when is the kitchen open during the restaurants operation? The kitchen will be open the whole time. and what kind of alcohol beverages will the restaurants serve if your liquor licenses for breakfast. We're looking at Bloody Mary's Maybe Bailey's and a coffee, and then Mamosa, obviously. And then lunch will be We're expecting more like white line and things of that nature, and then dinner would be more of your cocktail wine atmosphere. Okay, and how will you ensure that each alcoholic beverage contains the recommended amount of alcohol we're using at a jigger to measure the alcohol, and then we have a a wine glass, which is standard, and so the staff will be trained on where that you know out smart is okay. And what is the best estimate of the projected ratio between food and alcohol. we're heavy food. So our financials have been projected at like a 20% alcohol

[82:10] percentage. Okay? And next, I just kind of want to talk about the process of ordering and receiving alcohol in the restaurant. Well, patrons receive alcohol at their table when they're seating, or can you just explain them. Yeah, it's a table service restaurant. So our servers will deliver. They all call to the table. okay? And so they'll we'll kind of like, look at someone's Id, and then and so they'll be iding out the title and delivering it directly to that person. Okay, thank you for that clarification. And then as part of your liquor license application there in the diagram of the license premises. There's a drink pickup counter. Will alcohol and beverages ever be left up account, and that's really more of a coffee counter. Okay? And you will be the registered manager for the restaurant. Okay? And as the manager, you will be overseeing the day to day operations, including alcohol. Really. do you have any assistant managers who supervise the restaurant and you're not present? They yeah, they're always will be a manager on site.

[83:10] And yeah, we'll have a management team. Okay? And I believe all your system managers will be over 21 years of age. and just one more question for this portion, and you don't hold any other liquor licenses or any interest in that. Hopefully. Okay. Now, I'd want to switch gears a little bit and talked about the license premises. The restaurants located on the first floor of the building. Is that right? Okay? And you lease the space I do. Does the restaurant have a patio? It does. So alcohol be allowed within the restaurant and the video? yeah, just the like. The premises only. Okay, which in the drawing shows the restaurant and the patio correct? Yes. Okay. And can you? briefly explain how the paddy is enclosed. And yeah, the patio has a rail surrounding it so it can see up to 14 people. And so you have to go upstairs to enter into the patio, so it's not something where you can even reach the tables from the sidewalk is quite a bit

[84:14] off the ground, so it's raised up, and there's clear entrances to it, and there's no You have to go out. Only one exit. Yeah, it is. It's surrounded by the whole thing is surrounded by rails. Okay? And is the patio visible from inside the restaurant? Oh, yeah, we have full glass front. So we can see really well onto the patio. Okay? And are you going to use any additional measures to kind of monitor patrons on the audio? Yeah, they have their own designator servers for that area. Okay? And now I just want to talk a little bit about alcohol storage. Do you have a locked vessel for alcohol? Okay? And how will you inventory? Inventory your alcohol just to make sure consumption is matching up. Well, the up call, count. We count the bottles of an open like champagne and line every night, just to make sure

[85:02] that things are being built correctly and managed correctly. But also the we you are using toast, and they have, like an inventory system for the amount of ounces that your liquor should have based on your sales. And so we can monitor that way as well, okay. And just to cl clarify. You understand that alcohol can only be served in the license premises, which is the first floor of the building. Okay, so I know I want to switch here a little bit and talk about training and policies. Can you explain if you have any experience in the restaurant industry or serving alcohol. I do have alcohol experience. In my college. I was in charge of training all the party monitors at my university, and so I'm familiar with those kind of processes. This is my first venture as an adult into after college into this. But we are a member of the Rar, and we worked with them on our alcohol policy, and we talked in depth about doing the training on site for all the employees, but also taking it a little further and doing training into like how to know if it's a fake. Id. How to handle it. If someone arrives to your site already

[86:17] overserved and procedures like that. That's really important to us. Great, thank you. And you kind of already covered this. But just make sure you kind of joined responsible for retailers to. I'm sure you have enough knowledge in this. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Serving our call safely. Okay? And you mentioned this as well. responsible association of retailers helps draft your alcohol policy. Yeah, planning on the okay. So to clarify, are you and your entire staff going to be tips. Yeah, all of the staff is going to be tips train. We're not hiring anyone under 18 and our point of sales system also tracks that certification. So someone's coming in with tips training already. We will do a rush up on the 2 extra things the fake ids and how to deal like.

[87:09] how to tell the signs of someone who has been served alcohol before they come to you. And so all of that is tracked? okay, perfect. And have you hired any employees to the restaurant yet? I've hired my shop so far. Okay? And so when do you plan that hire. I think it's set for 3 weeks. Okay from now. Okay. And so your point of sale will track. If your employees any employees are kind of running on. I'm about to yeah, reset application. Okay, it has a certification area to alert us. If someone is expiring or needs training. Okay? And how will you ensure that patients are not over served at the restaurant? we are working with Nathan from AR are on those policies, on how to tell how many drinks and based on I guess the physical attributes of what's but they're presenting. Okay? And how are you going to track? How many drinks that agent has when they're at the restaurant. Our point of sales system does have a tracking for that.

[88:12] But also those servers will be responsible and train to track that as well. Alright. And how will you and your staff respond if someone in need greeted? That's request for a drink. they'll we just we'll say, now, okay. And what is your policy if someone's to in tax gave you that they show up to? Intoxicated to your restaurant? We'll review service on all counts for that. But we would also like help them, you know. Get home. Okay, give them a coffee. And are you aware of the city's requirement that all boys need to be trained within 60 days of obtaining a license? Yes, okay. And so you're going to make sure that all your employees are trained within that 60 days of when your license is approved, or 60 days from when the employee is hired correct?

[89:00] And what is your plan going to be if one of your employees fails to buy by your alcohol policies or information they learned in their training. For example, they were served when they shouldn't have been served, or your employee forgot to ask for. I mean, they're terminated if they serve someone without iding them, and then the rest. I guess that would depend on the situation. But we take it very seriously. Okay. In addition to having all the internal policies and procedures we just talked about, and that you'll have in place. Are you going to require your staff to maintain responsible vendor training for the boulder ordinances and rules. Correct? Oh, yeah, okay. And based on kind of all the testimony we talked about today as well as this Johnson's testimony. Would you agree that the restaurant. There is a needs desire for the restaurant in the community. Oh, yeah, okay, thank you, Miss Alice. And just to. Kinda and it, is there anything else you would like the Board to know about your restaurant? My chef is really great. I hope you guys don't.

[90:04] No, I think that's Okay, well, thank you very much for your time consideration that I have no further questions on our end. Thank you for your testimony. members of the board. Do you have any questions for anyone? I don't have any other questions. I really do appreciate you working with Mr. Duty and rar and just just a a continued consideration around where you are. that location. You are right next to the sink, and you're right next to a huge throw away between all the bars and campus. I I I do understand your concept for a high afternoon. She doesn't necessarily cares, you know, specific so already that crowd. That being said, it's a very touchy area, and just keeping that very at your forefront when you're when you're serving alcohol in that area. Yeah, thank you.

[91:02] I have nothing else. All right. all right, miss. Miss Paylor, do you have any fun on the comments? That's all on our end. Thank you very much. Okay, thank you. So I'll then open it up for? deliberation between numbers as a board. What are you 2 thinking? Anything you wanted to share that location. I just I that's the one thing I but I mean they really stepped up the every system that they have in place. I mean when the start to hire us our training. That's when we really start to see him make sure that that's happening. But to me that. That's a bulletproof application right there. Yeah, I really like seeing that they have work with the with the AR in their. The. The policy policy is would look really good. and just some of the technological things that your team will be using with toast and everything to monitor your drinks and all that. That's that's that's next level. And what business you should should be doing that. So

[92:03] thank you. Yeah. I'll make a motion to approve this license. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead, Member Roberts. I'll second it all right. All in favor. Member car. I Member Roberts, I number Epsilon. I so moved. Thank you all for your time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Bye, guys. thank you. Thank you. you're doing the attendees. Let's turn around the panelists so you can chat. You guys looks like he raised his hands. Cool alright. Anybody hear me? You can. How are you cool?

[93:01] Oh, I'm all right, had some child care issues today. So sorry about being late. so yeah, first and foremost, before I forget just I'm going to re-emphasize what what Mike just said there, Mr. Absalom, Holly called me probably even a couple of months ago. Now to my regulation times gone by so fast when she has a bulletproof plan. She knows what areas she's in, and I will be concentrating on the staff. I'm meeting with her staff as soon as it's hired going in there personally and having a discussion with them, just because that is a very volatile area as you all are talking about, and as much as they want to keep it high t time we all know what crowd might wander into there. So that's definitely something we will be discussing. So yeah, great glad you guys approved a number of things. I I think they're gonna be grandm and great for the community. other than that. we did have our fake id training last. I don't know. A couple of weeks ago with Officer Denig. went really well, didn't have the numbers we had the last time. But you know, I think everything's been different since Covid, and that includes staffing issues and managers and owners having to stay home even during member meetings. So we're really trying to

[94:10] to ramp that up. But we did have a good turnout, and we're going to get up to Dunning to probably do it one more time before he's out and just because I think everybody who does go to it sees the value in it, and that is something I'll be teaching like collie staff, for example. everything Officer done it does. And I I learned something new every time I I host one of those. So it it's great, not only for me, but for the members, and to be able to really pass that on in the tips trainings, because I do small little just, you know, fake id trainings during my tips trainings now as well. So other than that our air is going good. I'm really hitting hard on the cannabis side of things. I'm supposed to be presenting the first of the month with C lab. So if you have any C lab counterparts my bla members and and panelists put in a good word for us, please. it's been a slow role getting in there, and would be great to have the approval from C lab, like I have from all view. and you know the good work we've done there on the alcohol side of things. So just saying, if you know someone on that panel, you might.

[95:10] you know. just with for something here for me. Okay, But in that I think we'll just show them just like we've shown you all you like the good work we're doing and and getting good members like Holly and and everybody else, and I really appreciate your recommendations for people joining us. and I just had a quarterly meeting with the Sca, which is the the folks who fund us to keep those dues down, and they're really happy with our work. And yeah, so we got a good good good rating from them after quarter 2, and we're doing the quarter 3 schedules and quarter 4. Come quickly after that. So I mean, we're halfway through the year, and things are doing great. Oh, by the way, just so, you all know, which is great to my trainings are packed full like Pre covid. It's wonderful. The last 3 trainings. I've had 25 to 36 people, and that's amazing. That means people are hiring. And that's even during summer. So it's pretty awesome.

[96:00] And we're back in the Boulder library because it looks like they finally cleaned up those bathrooms, and my attendees can go to the bathroom now. It's just a better location. they've got all the technology we need, and everybody can rely that we're there. So I've scheduled myself out there for the next 6 months as well, because that's as as much as I can do. So that's another thing. always invite you guys. If you ever want to check out a training. Come on by, I'll let you know when it is, and other than that, if you have any questions, let me know. But I think things are going really well. Thanks for the updates. It's great to hear no questions. Thanks again for all you do. All right. Thank you. And you didn't feel good to stay around. If you want. I'll just leave that here. And then agenda at 9 is matters from to the attorney, and Christiana, I think, wants to talk about the memo do. Yes, indeed, thank you. Caitlin.

[97:01] So members of the Beverage licensing authority, we have a new bill that passed in the Colorado Legislature this 2023 legislative session. and it just makes a few changes to the art gallery permit for liquor licenses. The main changes, as you can see in the memo, are really changing the name of the permit. It's going from art gallery. Permit to retail establishment. Permit and it's expanding. the availability of that type of permit to more businesses than just art galleries. so our galleys are still a type of business, a type of retail establishment that can apply for this permit, but they have expanded it a little bit. The other thing is that they've included some new prohibited activities. just more limitations on what's permitted by for permit holders and they increase the application. So

[98:03] we're bringing this up to you guys now, not only does it affect you know, state law, but it'll impact us a little bit as well. there are a couple of changes that we need to make to the B to revise code and also to the bla rules of procedure. And they're pretty simple changes. mostly. It's just changing the name over to the correct permit. Name and these changes are all going into effect on August seventh, 2,023 and the only other change is really the increase. for for the city side at least, is that a increase in the application free fee from a hundred to $200. So we wanted to bring that to your attention. show you what the red lines to the bla rules would look like like, I said. They're pretty simple. It's a change to the table of contents to the name of the Art gallery. Permit and also then to section 9, dash 3. Changing that name over as well to the new name

[99:06] with the intent again to have this in effect by about August seventh and then we'll be doing an ordinance in conjunction with a resolution going in front of city council to finalize all those changes? I am happy to answer questions. Yeah. yeah. My question on this is that you know you can see any retail establishment. Does that change? special event per minute permitting for certain establishments? I'm I'm not sure the the bill itself doesn't address any changes to special event permits. so anything that is currently applicable to special event permits is still applicable to special event permits. Got it so I mean, if I were, if I had an establishment like this, I could essentially go for a retail establishment, permit versus a special establish or a special event permit. I guess there's just a little bit of a gray area to me around that. But I I don't.

[100:07] I don't know how much that affects us, but it's just strange. Yeah. so one of the things I saw after I provided the materials Caitlin to put in the to send you all that I highlighted. I left the highlight in to take out. But that highlight is actually or could be useful in the bill itself. That's the second attachment in the memo to the memo. Sorry I we'll find the page here really fast. but you can't hold, I I think, what you said, Member Absalom, about one or the other is right, because, One of the new rules is that you can't. If if you get a retail establishment permit, you can't hold another license under the title 3 or 4. not not title 3 for chapter 3, or 4, under title 44. So

[101:03] that's one of the things and I think, although honestly, Kristen might be a better person to talk about special events in particular. at this point. But You know, I I imagine, that this is just a different type of permit it allows. For you know, special events are more temporary things. Right? Kristen. yeah, it it. It has been the case that we've issued special event permits for fundraising events held at retail stores which may now be eligible for this type of permit instead. so there we could see some transition from Events tell that source historically, under special event permits now held under this retail establishment. Permit that? That's a potential change. that's still to be to be seen. Mike is out. Does that answer your question?

[102:02] It does. Yeah. It just sounds like we will kind of find ourselves in some of that gray area potentially down the road. Not that I I don't know how it is affecting us as an authority to make decisions around whether or not we want to approve either one or the other. But I was. I just was looking for already. But thank you for that. And when to that point, as far as like what the authority would do, it would depend on what the applicant applies for right. So if they're applying for a special event, permit versus a retail establishment, permit you just take their application and apply the criteria and go from there. Right? Yeah. And 1 one difference that I just wanted to highlight for the board to between special event permits. And this retail establishment permit is special about permits are typically handled administratively by staff without a public hearing. our rules do state that the retail establishment permit would require public hearing. So there's the potential that the board will be seeing more of these applications. than we have in the past.

[103:08] We we're not planning to process them administratively sorry. Go ahead. No, I was, gonna say, one of the things. It seems like this is like a almost extended special event. Permit where you can serve alcohol, but there is like a limited amount of times per year. but it may be it keeps a business or an organization having to continue to apply for a special event. Permit something of that nature. Great? Yeah. So from from you guys, we would really appreciate it if You all made a motion to approve or recommend approval of the changes to the bla rules. That we can, you know, take that recommendation to city council, for when they consider resolution to approve the changes as well.

[104:02] I'll make a motion to recommend the changes to the rules of procedure. According to the new statute and member car will second that motion all in favor. I'm a car. I remember, Roberts, I oh, absolutely great. Thank you. Guys. thank you? Right? Thanks. Okay. Next, you have a Gen, item, 10 Bers from licensing clerk. If 2 boundary settings for today. for the sorry for the July. Yeah, I didn't change it. the first one is for Bookcliff, Olc. Dba. Book with vineyards or a new distillery pub type. License application at 1 5 0 one meal drive. Unit 17, border Colorado, 8, 0 3, 0 4. I couldn't find any comparable boundaries

[105:06] for this. So I will share my screen. So you guys can see is is up slope up there. Is there a tap room right there? There is. So I don't. I think that's I mean that's a different type of license. But I think there might be boundaries for that. So that's a Rory, and those are all licenses. So we actually don't oversee that like call. Oh, they don't have a brew. Have license there. No. I can see that. But you're absolutely correct. It is okay. It was kind of an interesting one, because it's so far up there. so how far the city limits go. so

[106:01] I wish I knew. But I don't. I would suggest, probably just to that point. We're working at city limits all around a lot of this to the west and north, maybe. Yeah. And to the east. Yeah, and to the east as much. Yeah. And then to the south, you could take it all the way down. So that neighbor, because you want to get that neighborhood. That's right there. like south of Lee. He'll drive all the way, you know, if you went all the way West. the city limits, and you could go all the way south to Yarmouth, if that's too big. I was even thinking Violet F. But it it might be because I think we just get more, because there's just not that much residential in there. right? So Violet to the south. and then see if it's on the North Sea limits on the west and east. I I would second that.

[107:00] Okay. okay, so just to make sure we're doing city limits on northeast and west. And then. yes. okay. okay, and then I'll leave this up. But the next one is much easier The next one is for bacon, love. I'll see Dba black billing market for a modification of premise for a hotel restaurant. Technical license 1 6 0 6. can set the street suite 3 boulder Colorado. they actually did a modification in 2,016. So I hold the premise, or I'm sorry the suggested boundaries for that, and that was on the north. It was Pearl Parkway, extended south was Baseline Road, East City limits and west. I'm fine with using those.

[108:01] Yeah, I I would make a second, to go with the same exact boundaries for the previous modification. Thank you. Okay. The next thing that we have is an administrative processing of a transfer application. This is just for your information. It's mosses, folder ink, dba, mosses and and garbage transfer of the hotel restaurants and liquor license at 9 0 9, 1 3 older Colorado. You have any questions, let me know. And then next we have. We have one permanent sales room, and I actually do have Trevor Johnson here. Who is the license for this? So I'm not let him for running him to panelists. And if you guys have any questions for him. You can go ahead and ask. This is for black hat foring. I'll I'll see Dba Blackcap for ring application for a permanent Colorado like our sales room at 5, 7, 6, 3, Orapo Avenue, boulder, Colorado, 8, 0 3 0 3.

[109:14] Awesome. And do we still need to read the same policies in not for this one. This one is just the board kind of just gives the okay to the state to issue. So if you guys have any like operational questions or anything like that for Trevor, you can feel free to ask. that's typically what's happening to you. With these applications. They don't come up very often. So that's kind of yeah in the in the past. What we've looked at is other licenses in that area, because we, the State approves that license. So we kind of look at like how that affect the community and the other licenses that we've worked with. And I'm just looking at the map right now. I looked at the drawing. and it looks pretty pretty good to me. And where they're located here, I think, is very similar to where the old Avery taper used to be back in the old, old days.

[110:08] but yeah, I didn't have any questions. This looks good to me. and just looking at the location, I think there's it's it's a space that probably could use a A that is run responsibly cool. I I didn't have any specific questions Trevor. Everything you wanted to share with us. no, we are in the old Avery location Avery move their tasting room a few times, and we have their ritual brewing equipment. So it's been a brewery for 30 years. not anticipating any problems, just looking forward to building community and creating jobs. You have the original, a rebuilding equipment. Wow. yeah, pretty cool. Thank you. We'll see you there. When do you plan on opening? Well, I acquired the space at the end of 19 record, Covid. It's been pretty rough

[111:03] sooner sooner than later, you know then no questions on my might be having other questions, so good luck! I don't know if they else has any other questions. no other questions. So we will. send that to the State with our okay And then the only other thing I have for matters from licensing clerk is that and I apologize. I didn't put this on the agenda, but board of recruitment. Maybe your board department has reopened. So we are recruiting for the fourth member. I'm sorry. Yeah. The fifth member of the bla we're permit ends on July. I have sent a couple of emails regarding for department out to the community. and I did put all of you on there. So if you know everyone, please feel free to forward those emails. If you need more information for me. Please let me know. we're really hoping that we can get one more person.

[112:04] I thought we needed more than that. So we needed 2 more people. And then, Mike, are you staying on? Yeah, I think if we get one more it would be me. I do have plans to leave to move abroad in the fall. those. Obviously. I'll keep you posted licensing about how how far that goes. My term ends next year, which I think would end in February next year. Maybe. So if I don't know if it goes through the whole calendar either way, as long as I'm in Boulder, I will be a part of this authority, that that being, said, I, my plans are to leave in either October or November so to had it brought to Mexico. great. So currently, there's only one vacancy. But if Member Absalom, where to make it his his seat, then there, that would create that there. But as it's in my background, term ends in 2,020, it's not here.

[113:07] Okay. Matthews. Matthews term goes to 2,025. I mean. Michael, you're the newest member of the board. I can tell you. Right. let's see. Believe me, I'm trying to get people to jump on and volunteer for the yeah, I'm surprised because some of the other boards get so many applicants. Yeah, I was kind of both that can I jump in here. Sorry to do you guys want me to put up? I'll put out announcements that you guys are looking to the members because maybe there's a member who wants to help out.

[114:01] Thank you. I'll reform this email to you. Sure you were. But all forward that information to you. And yeah, that would be really helpful if you could do that. I really appreciate that genuinely care. Yeah, that operators in the community who have liquor licenses. And I don't know. I mean like like I, said Dude. It's kind of been strange. Man, like the the member meetings are the lowest I've ever had in years, and that's from every community like the owners are literally working when they should have staff work. So I think that's more. That's just their free time. You know they're like, well, my free time. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to go to the beach, you know, or whatever I have to say something that. And I know this is not popular, but I think it's also directly linked to the amount of enforcement. So if there was more show causes happening to people. You would probably see a lot involvement in these type of things we're about. Yeah, we're back out there again. But I know it's been a struggle for them to get people to. It's just a hiring issue. It's funny, man, like it's harder for me to find reliable people to go and do that kind of fake thing we do.

[115:14] It's shocked me because it's like I had 4 years before Covid, and 4 years after, and the 4 years after have been more of a struggle for me than the 4 years prior to. So it's just weird. It's just weird. and I know officer done. It has struggled, hiring people to do that, or whatever resource resource they do, and even 4 calls, please just started it back up this year. So, but I'll keep pushing them, and I'm I'm stemming in stings dude. So people are getting stung by me now. But yeah, all right, I'll put that out there. Yeah, Kate, and just give me that email. And we're good to go perfect. I forward it to you. Thank you so much. Just so everyone knows. So remember absolutely your terms. Up in 2,024. Remember California's terms up in 2,025,

[116:02] remember, car, in 2,027, and we were Robert to yourself in 2,026. So that's what for terms. and I believe that is it for manners from the licensing clerk. So that's unless you have anything. Oh, thank you, Caitlin. Next on our last item is my marriage from the chair that matters from the chair and members of the authority. Excuse me. I don't have anything today to anyone else, but I think I just had one thing and I noticed, and I was trying to implement it without talking about it. This might be a rules thing if we go this route, but I was trying to go in order of how we say, Yeah, your name. I was just waiting for the to go, like usually go alphabetically. But so then I was like waiting for you. But then I realized, Okay, we're just going to go me this full time, because because, you know, Michael was the one. Who whoever chairs is always going to be the first one to be like, okay.

[117:02] you know, there's a motion, and then it proves it. I was just it. It. It'll be better over in person, but it's just control. Sloppy, who talks next the I like alphabetical. Then I know I'm always last, and I'm really cool with that. So the chair starts, and then we go alphabetical. We we can just that's not. We can't make a rule around that. I know that. No, just there's something to think about. I'll it's not a bad idea. They're not talking over each other and everything else. Yeah. Well, what is it I make a most. Someone makes a motion, someone seconds it. and then the person who made the motion says, All in favor, I. And then the this is just a small group. It's always just bye. Yeah, it's like Matthews, the cherry we go, Matthew. They mean that Mike, and then you, Leah, and every time we do that because, math, you'd be the first one to say something, and then we go out about color by last name.

[118:06] I'm I'm into that. I mean again. This can't be a rule. You can go in any order you want, but if we start talking at the same time, then yes. I I like the idea just to keep things consistent. that's all I had. I'd make a motion to adjourn. But it's not alphabetical. We go ahead. I'll second. I'll second it all right, guys. Thank you so much. Thank you. Everyone. Bye, bye.